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phobiacHas anyone ever tried setting up sauerbraten12:15
phobiac?12:15
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perkabaloHi! How do format a new hdd in kde?12:17
N6REJ!kfdisk12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kfdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
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perkabaloheh, well kfdisk isn't in my repos?12:20
N6REJno that was wrong... click on system in the menu, then advanced on the screen that opens up12:21
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N6REJthere is a disk manager there.12:21
perkabalooh ok12:21
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perkabalothankyie12:22
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N6REJyw12:23
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sleepy495how do I install/get flash9?12:24
phobiacsleepy: For firefox?12:24
sleepy495yes12:25
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Raven301Does anyone know what the command is to set the apps to be the default ones?12:26
phobiacWhen you unzip the flash 9 tar.gz there's a readme file.12:26
phobiacDo what it says.12:26
K`zandoes one need to install kde help, seem none of it has help for it?!?12:26
deitarion3My mother's digiKam install "Failed to list files in /camera" but accessing system:/camera through Konqueror works and selecting the camera directly from the digiKam "Camera" menu works too. Solution please?12:27
phobiacRaven301: If you go to system settings you can set default apps...I don't know the bash commans12:27
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phobiaccommands*12:27
Raven301ok thanks phobiac12:27
phobiacNp12:27
sleepy495is it better to use konquerer or firefox?12:27
phobiacsleepy: It's a matter of preference really12:28
N6REJsleepy495: that is a personal preference.  they both have plenty of things to offer12:28
unclemike? in konqueror i have directory tree showing on the left of the window..all it will show is a Root Folder with just home and media..how do i get it to show everything12:28
N6REJtry both12:28
phobiacdeitarion: What is the issue? You cannot get the camera to work in digikam?12:28
K`zansleepy495: Peronally I use firefox, I REALLY don't like konq :-).12:28
N6REJunclemike: its showing what you have permission to access, use konqueror if you want to drill down.12:29
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N6REJunclemike: or konsole12:29
deitarion3phobiac: The auto-displayed-on-start photo list errors out and i can neither kill it nor fix it. (every time, she has to click OK on the error, close it, and then pick the camera specifically from the Cameras menu)12:29
perkabalohmm when i choose to remove the partition, old empty ntfs, nothing happens, cant see any apply option or such?12:29
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theonei need somebody help!12:30
N6REJperkabalo: you have to reboot before you see changes.12:30
phobiacdeitarion3: Have you tried looking on google for "digikam (model of camera here) errors"?12:30
perkabalobut right click on it and choose remove is enough?12:31
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theonei wanted to know how to install 3d desktop effects like aero on my kubuntu..12:31
unclemikei can access /mnt....where i have my 1 ntfs partition and 2 fat32 partitions..but it dont show them12:31
deitarion3phobiac: considering that everything but that works *perfectly* I wasn't sure whether it was a camera-specific error.12:31
phobiactheone: Beryl might be what you want12:31
phobiacunclemike: When you mounted them were you the user that did? Or did you do "sudo mount"?12:32
N6REJcan anyone help with my /etc/hosts file please?12:33
phobiacdeitarion3: I don't know enough about digikam to really help, but I'd check google to see if it's an error with the camera driver.12:33
phobiacN6REJ: What do you need?12:33
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K`zanN6REJ: de wv9k what ya need Sir?12:34
unclemikei mounted them on install of the system12:34
N6REJphobiac: I'm trying to setup an "intranet" I had it ok, until I listened to a friend, now things are foobar'd..... I have quasar and apache on the box and need to set it up so that ONLY those 2 apps can be accessed from outside, but samaba and everything else can be accessed on the lan.12:34
deitarion3phobiac: Aha! It's an Edgy-specific camera-agnostic problem. --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29020512:34
phobiacunclemike: Did you look in /media?12:34
N6REJwv9k de N6REJ hello OM12:35
phobiacdeitarion3: There's a fix?12:35
K`zanN6REJ: look into ipkungfu...  Excellent app12:35
deitarion3phobiac: The thread includes a workaround in the form of some UDEV rule changes and a script.12:35
perkabaloby the way, that's one other problem I experinced, i cant shutdown or reboot properly, my screen just turn black half through the process and my computer stays on?12:35
aakarshhow do i refresh package info in apt-get after adding to source-list12:35
aakarshsources.list12:35
phobiacN6REJ: Hmmm, do you have a router? It might be easier to just use that to control what is accesible from outside.12:36
phobiacdeitarion3: There you go then.12:36
N6REJK`zan: here's my /etc/hosts... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1626/12:36
N6REJphobiac: yes I do.  A wrt54G12:36
phobiacperkabalo: I have that issue too, just use the hardware off button.12:36
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phobiacaakarsh: sudo apt-get update12:36
N6REJHe told me to change it from dhcp ( the server ) to static and change the servername from ubuntu to something else.12:36
phobiacN6REJ: Oh, perfect. That's the name model router I have.12:37
N6REJK`zan: ok.12:37
perkabalophobiac, but for rebooting?12:37
unclemikemedia just has cdrom.....when i installed the distro...i put my windows partition...as   /mnt/windows .... /mnt/saved1 ... /mnt/saved2.. and i can access then..just just see them in the tres in the left side of konqueror12:37
N6REJphobiac: cool.12:37
phobiacperkabalo: Just use the same button to turn it off and on when that happens.12:37
N6REJI need 3599 and 80 available but I don't want it "published" I don't think.12:38
phobiacN6REJ: You know how to change the router settings? If so go to them and head to "applications and gaming"12:38
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N6REJk12:38
perkabalook, so there is no fix? just use the shutoff button?12:38
N6REJphobiac: ok, I'm there.12:38
phobiacunclemike: Open command line and try kdesu konqueror and use the konqueror window that opens to see if you can see them.12:38
phobiacperkabalo: Not as far as I know so far.12:39
phobiacN6REJ: Okay, give me a minute.12:39
N6REJk12:39
perkabalook no sweat :)12:39
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phobiacI seem unable to acess my router so I can see exactly what to do.12:40
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phobiacWhat you need to do is put the ip of the machine in the one colum, and then the ports you need forwarded in the others..12:40
phobiacHmm wait12:40
unclemikephobiac, samething...still shows just home and media12:41
phobiacunclemike: Maybe it's not mounting properly? I'm unsure.12:41
N6REJphobiac: I've done that. and I put the App name as what the app is not the service name12:41
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Admiral_Chicagohello all12:41
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N6REJunclemike: go to console and look there.  also check /etc/fstab to see if they are listed, if they aren't it won't show them.12:42
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phobiacN6REJ: So for apache you did HTTP for example?12:43
unclemikephobiac, here's a snapshot of how everything is mounted...    http://www.geocities.com/goodoldunclemike/snapshot2.png12:43
phobiacAs application12:43
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Shutttbsr tlm12:43
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N6REJno, I said "Apache" as application12:43
phobiacunclemike: They aren't mounted.12:44
aakarshhi , could somebody help me I am trying to add http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ to my sources.list but cant seem be able to figure out what to add to apt-get12:44
aakarshsources.list12:44
N6REJtell aakarsh about !easysource12:44
phobiacN6REJ: For apache you need HTTP. HTTP is the protocol browsers use for transfering html and other files over the net, I don't know about quasar though.12:45
aakarsheasysource ?12:45
N6REJ!easysource12:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:45
aakarshisnt this the format deb [server-type]  [address]  [directories]  [areas] 12:45
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N6REJyep, but you put in int /etc/apt/sources.list not in apt-get12:45
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N6REJquasar uses a client/server setup.12:46
unclemikephobiac, if there not mounted..then how did i just access the partition....going to make another snapshot so you can see what im talking about12:46
aakarshyeah i was trying12:46
aakarshbut it only lists url12:46
aakarshthanks for easy source looks great12:46
phobiacunclemike: The folder exists even when the partition isn't mounted sometimes.12:46
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N6REJaakarsh: yw12:47
phobiacunclemike try doing mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda112:47
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boris115hi12:48
boris115i a til des francai12:48
phobiac!french12:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:48
unclemikephobiac, http://www.geocities.com/goodoldunclemike/snapshot3.png12:48
phobiacWait was that franch?12:48
boris115oui12:48
phobiacAh good12:48
unclemikethe directoty tree on the left12:49
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N6REJI think I've got a loopback or something, cause its taking forever now.12:49
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phobiacunclemike: What about it? You can't find mnt is what you're saying?12:49
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unclemikeyes....unless i use the drop down at the top12:50
phobiacunclemike: Just click the folder labeled root12:50
N6REJman that was slow!12:50
unclemikethe folder labeled root...is clicked showing just what you seen12:51
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phobiacOhhhh12:51
phobiacunclemike: do ctrl+h12:51
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phobiacOn konq12:51
N6REJphobiac: now i can't get to the router :(12:51
phobiacN6REJ: That's odd. Restart it?12:52
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N6REJI'll have to manually do it.12:52
phobiacWait no, unclemike ctrl+h won't do anything.12:52
unclemikectrl+h is doing nothing12:52
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phobiacunclemike: At the top make "view" drop down and click on "Show Hidden Files"12:53
unclemikethat will show everything on the right..main window12:53
phobiacIt should12:53
phobiacIsn't that what you wanted?12:54
KirbyKhanHello, I just got a new computer and installed kubuntu on it with the help of a friend.12:54
aakarshi added deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas all  to my sources.list and did update but still get sudo apt-get install freenx not found :(12:54
KirbyKhanNow I'm just wondering how I can connect to the internet with it using dialup.12:55
Seveasthere is no freenx in edgy-seveas12:55
unclemikephobiac, i wanted everything to show in the tree at the left...like in every other distro12:55
KirbyKhanMy ISP is Juno if that helps.12:55
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KirbyKhanThey have thier own client used to connect, but I don't think they have one for linux.12:56
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parsek!camorama12:56
phobiacunclemike: Did you look in konq's settings?12:56
ubotucamorama: gnome2 tool to view, alter and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.18-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 190 kB, installed size 1376 kB12:56
N6REJ_test12:56
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N6REJok, I'm back12:56
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N6REJi've got a loopback going on I think.12:57
phobiacThat sucks12:57
N6REJphobiac: how should /etc/hosts look?12:57
phobiacN6REJ: I honestly have no idea12:57
parsek!qt12:57
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications12:57
N6REJugh... k12:57
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phobiacI have to restart my own computer :/ I'll brb12:58
unclemikephobiac, yes i have12:58
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parsekubotu12:59
N6REJgonna go eat.12:59
parsek!ubotu12:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:59
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deitarion3quit01:00
deitarion3oops.01:00
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soulriderhi01:01
parseksoulrider what time it is out there where you live01:02
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soulriderparsek: its 22:0001:02
parsekits 02 here01:03
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parsek!ubugtu01:03
ubotuubugtu is an Ubuntu Bot. Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots - Please don't play with the bot in the main channel.01:03
parsekbye01:04
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K-RyanAnyone know where I can get some good skins for my desktop?01:08
soulriderK-Ryan: try on http://kde-looks.org01:09
soulrideractually, try these01:09
soulrider~themes K-Ryan01:09
soulrider!themes | K-Ryan01:10
ubotuK-Ryan: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:10
K-Ryanwhere should i save the theme? (where are the default ones?)01:12
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N6REJ!intranet01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intranet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
N6REJ!lan01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
N6REJ*sigh*01:15
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K-RyanWhat's wrong?01:17
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K-RyanHey where do I save this theme and how do I change to it?01:19
K-RyanAnd please don't just link me to a manual.01:19
sleepy495what does sudo apt-get -f installdo?01:19
amigraveis it possible to make firefox 2 use the anti-aliasing defined in the kde font-settings ? with previous versions of kubuntu with firefox1.x it was working ok but since firefox2 it's not01:20
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K-RyanHey where do I want to save a theme?01:24
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K-Ryan!themes01:26
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:26
K-Ryan!changethemes01:26
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.01:26
makuseruhow can i get bigger resolution on an ATI Radeon 7000?01:26
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K-Ryanmaku i'll look around for ya01:28
makuseruthanks01:28
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casev01someone using apt-build?01:31
casev01im trying to use it, but it dont run01:31
K-Ryanapt-build, a terminal command?01:31
casev01yep01:31
K-Ryanyou know it would be something like "sudo apt-build <application>"01:31
K-Ryannot just apt-build01:32
sleepy495what does sudo apt-get -f installdo?01:32
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N6REJanyone know why I can say "quasar" and apache responds but when I say the samething in another program it doesn't?01:33
N6REJquasar being the alias for my lan server01:33
casev01yep, but, when i try to install something Unable to find source information for...01:33
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K-Ryanno idea there, still kind of new to Linux01:34
N6REJsleepy495: man apt-get01:34
aakarshyeah iam tring to figure out apt-get myself01:34
N6REJ!apt01:34
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)01:34
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aakarshseems like order of sources.list maters01:35
casev01yep01:35
aakarshnice how to01:35
N6REJ!repos01:35
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:35
K-RyanWould anyone happen to know where I should save a theme, and then how to use it?01:35
N6REJ!theme01:35
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:35
makuseruhow can i get bigger resolution on an ATI Radeon 7000?01:36
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N6REJ!ati01:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:36
N6REJ!display01:36
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:36
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makuserui have the drivers01:37
makuseruand that howto dosnt help01:37
jmichaelxhow would one make adjustments power management settings for one's monitor from the command line? since i upgraded my laptop to edgy, i lose X if i try to change the power-off settings in the system settings GUI01:37
aakarsh alias acs='apt-cache search' nice tip01:38
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K-RyanNobody knows where I should save a theme and then how I can use it?01:39
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fowlduckK-Ryan: google knows all01:40
K-RyanIf I wanted to use google I wouldn't be here01:40
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Dasnipa`K-Ryan, not wanting to use resources doesnt make logical sense01:41
K-RyanIs an IRC not a resource?01:41
K-RyanRight now I would prefer to have someone with experience and knowledge in the situation tell me what to do.01:41
andreaswIn the time you discuss you could have searched ;)01:41
K-RyanRather than search the web fori t.01:41
Dasnipa`sounds like you need to read the asking questions faq01:41
N6REJK-Ryan: its called 'trolling" the general expectatio in IRC is that you have made a reasonable attempt to figure it out for yourself using the resources available.01:41
K-RyanWho's to say I can't use the channel?01:42
N6REJnetiquette01:42
K-RyanI mean with 333 people logged in I think someone would know how to do it01:42
K-RyanTelling me however is another story...01:42
Dasnipa`yes, but people never learn how to figure stuff out by themselves if the answer is always handed to them01:42
andreaswAnybody knows why my second network device is eth2 instead of eth1 in Kubuntu?01:42
K-RyanEither an answer is found or given, either way the person figures it out.01:43
jmichaelxhow would one make adjustments to the power management settings for one's monitor from the command line? since i upgraded my laptop to edgy, i lose X if i try to change the power-off settings in the system settings GUI (i only reposted this because my wording earlier had not been clear)01:43
K-RyanNow if you don't mind I don't want to argue, I want to know where I should save a theme, and how to open it.01:43
N6REJandreasw: this can be changed in /etc/network/interfaces.01:43
andreaswN6REJ: no it can't01:43
N6REJK-Ryan: I already gave you resources for that.01:43
andreaswN6REJ: there you can configure the device but not the device name01:43
N6REJandreasw: why is that?.... let me think about that for a second.01:44
K-RyanThat's where I can get 'em.01:44
K-RyanI don't know what to do with it though01:44
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andreaswN6REJ: in /etc/iftab you can set the devices for a specific mac address01:44
N6REJyou can do it through ifconfig01:44
andreaswN6REJ: and in that file it uses eth1 for my network device but Kubuntu has eth2 assigned to it01:45
N6REJweird! let me check mine01:45
andreaswN6REJ: Well I don't think so you can set an alias01:45
andreaswN6REJ: but the device is normally automatically set01:45
N6REJandreasw: yes, I agree.... thats why I'm fuzzy on this.01:45
andreaswN6REJ: but why the hell do I have eth0 and eth2 but no eth101:45
N6REJis one wireless?01:46
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andreaswN6REJ: When I installed Kubuntu it was eth101:46
andreaswN6REJ: yes it is01:46
makuserudoes anyone know the command to configure ati radeon drivers?01:46
jmichaelxandreasw: why does it matter?01:46
N6REJok, this has been a while, but I THINK when using wireless it changes it.01:46
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andreaswjmichaelx: Well because I hate strange things like hat01:46
K-RyanCan someone please just tell me where to save this theme and then how I would open it up?01:47
jmichaelxlol, i can see that01:47
andreaswjmichaelx: Every other Linux distribution uses eth1 for it only ubuntu doesn't01:47
bubu1ukK-Ryan: u can save it pretty much anywhere01:47
K-RyanWhere are the others?01:47
K-RyanI'd prefer to keep it grouped01:47
N6REJandreasw: the man for iftab suggests looking at udev01:47
K-RyanAh no matter, I'll just save it somewhere01:48
K-RyanHow do I use it though?01:48
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andreaswjmichaelx: And look you install kubuntu configure eth1 because while installation the network card is eth1 than you boot into your newly installed system and than it is suddenly eth2 and you wonder why the network doesn't work01:48
bubu1ukK-Ryan: isntead of arguin bout things like if search for help here or google, did u try to search for info in ur own system?01:48
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andreaswN6REJ: well the iftab config file is read by a udev rule01:48
jmichaelxin my machines the wireless shows up as something different on every box.... i just assumed the type of card might have something to do with it01:48
K-RyanYou mean have I tried to figure this out by myself?01:48
K-RyanYes, I've been01:48
andreasweth1 mac 00:01:36:0d:d3:5d arp 101:48
jmichaelxandreasw: yeah, that is a strange thing01:48
andreasweth2      Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:01:36:0D:D3:5D01:48
N6REJandreasw: right, apparently the name is assigned at the kernel level.01:48
andreaswthe above entry is from iftab01:49
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andreaswlike you see the mac address did not change01:49
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N6REJweird01:49
bubu1ukK-Ryan: so what's ur problem then, cant figure it out.?01:49
K-RyanYep01:49
K-RyanDon't know what to d01:49
K-Ryan*do01:49
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bubu1ukK-Ryan: have u tried control center >> look >>install theme?01:49
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bubu1ukK-Ryan: it tells u that it will get theme from anywhere u choose. ;)01:50
K-Ryancontrol center?01:50
N6REJbubu1uk: he was given the wiki and doesn't want to read it.01:50
K-RyanI didn't get a wiki01:50
N6REJ!themes01:50
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:50
K-RyanI got sites to get themes from.01:50
bubu1uki did it in 1 min myself. how long u tried?01:50
K-RyanOh, heh, missed that01:50
N6REJread the last sentence!01:50
K-Ryani'm running kubuntu -.-01:50
N6REJKubuntu=ubuntu with KDE01:51
K-RyanWell the method of changing the theme is different.01:51
bubu1ukN6REJ: some ppl just want u to do thing for them, and then tell others, how good they'r in linux? or just bein annoyin to keep askin basic things even after 1 year after using linux.01:51
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andreaswKubuntu = (ubuntu - Gnome) + KDE ^^01:51
bubu1uklike me. lol01:51
K-RyanYeah I get what Kubuntu is already01:51
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K-RyanHow I am to make use of this theme, I don't know!01:52
K-RyanCan someone please just give me a straight answer here?01:52
hlopesanyone know how to install cube game?01:52
bubu1ukK-Ryan: if u go to kde-look.org, with every theme u download u have 'how to' do it01:52
N6REJ"menu" - > system settings -> appearance    JEEEZ01:53
K-RyanIt says "right click and click save as"01:53
N6REJnow back to our reguarly scheduled programming01:54
bubu1ukK-Ryan: and how hard is to CLICK?01:54
K-RyanWhy do I not have a "system settings"01:54
K-RyanClick what? I know how to download it01:54
N6REJanyone have a clue why apache would strip css off from outside the router but not via the lan?01:54
K-RyanI'm going to go eat dinner, then I'm going to come back and hope someone can just tell me what to do01:55
N6REJK-Ryan: have you read any of the documentation?01:55
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aakarshshould it be really bad if i use dapper version of free nx01:57
aakarshsince i cant find edgy one01:57
N6REJbackports carry no guarantee's01:58
mundanoanyone having problems with the adept updater icon, and Beryl? or is just me?01:58
jmichaelxhow would one make adjustments to the power management settings for one's monitor from the command line?01:58
aakarshwell i will just have to wait and see01:58
mundanopower managemet for monitor in Kubuntu edgy is seriously broken...01:59
mundanois allways turns to 5 hours01:59
mundano:\01:59
jmichaelxmundano: yeah, that is how my laptop is.... but not my 2 desktops that run edgy01:59
mundanostrange...02:00
jmichaelxpower management for monitors has never been reliable in kubuntu... i don't know if that is a KDE problem or a kubuntu problem02:01
mundanotheres a bug report in launchpad02:01
N6REJthis is really weird, apache is stripping css off my site02:01
jmichaelxi have one LCD that has been damaged a little by the power-off not working02:01
mundanothe problem is identified02:01
mundanolong ago...02:01
mundanobut no patch until now...02:01
mundano:(02:01
jmichaelxok, well hopefully there will be an update at some point02:01
mundanomaybe for feisty02:02
N6REJI can access the css from backend of joomla but nto front.02:02
N6REJreally weird.02:02
jmichaelxty for the info, mundano02:02
jmichaelxi was just hoping i could change something in a config file to adjust the power-off02:03
mundanojmichaelx: but there are some ugly fixes you can do yourself...02:04
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mundanogive me just a sec02:04
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jmichaelxmundano: if they are too ugly, i think i'll leave them alone lol. i just have this problem on my laptop, and i don't use it nearly as much as i use my desktops02:05
mundanoi cant find it...02:08
mundanoi'm sure i have seen a solution in the foruns02:08
mundanobut i cant find it anymore02:08
jmichaelxit's no biggie..... i'll wait for a patch or wait until feisty'02:08
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aakarshdoes any one here have experience with no machine02:18
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aakarshi am trying to connect to freenx server but it gets stuck at setting up the environment02:19
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fiendskull9Hey, everytime i try to remove a default kubuntu app (i.e. - konversation), it sais its going to remove kubuntu-desktop as well...02:21
root_hihi02:21
fiendskull9is there a way to remove kopete, konversation, etc, but keep kubuntu-desktop?02:21
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Shaezschei issued the command "sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/xfce4-panel" and now when i login my panel doesnt show up. how can i set it back to what it was originally02:22
Shaezschewhat was it before chmod?02:22
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boblenyHey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...02:24
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bobleny!alert02:27
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ubotubobleny: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)02:28
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I-04stdin: if you remember that cehckinstall problem i had with gaim... it doesn't work after all.02:29
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I-04silly adept02:30
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boblenyHey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...02:31
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padcomhi all02:33
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padcomdoes anyone knows if wlan support is to be updated in the upcomming release?02:34
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killermach_I have a 1394 external drive, I have written to it previously, but kubuntu is mounting read-only and when I do "sudo mount -o remount,rw,user /media/sda1" it claims "mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only" How do I correct this in kubuntu??02:34
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root_hi, can anyone tell me where to get module-assistant ?02:36
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root_the ati driver howto tells me to download it02:36
root_but its no longer available02:36
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killermach_when I choose "safely remove" now root cannot even mount it.. saying "/dev/sda1 is not a valid block-device" I was just automounted as sda1, what gives??02:37
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dwidmann!info module-assistant | root_02:39
ubotumodule-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.6 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 404 kB02:39
root_hmmmm02:40
root_but how to download it ?02:40
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root_apt-get doesnt work02:40
root_it says no longer available02:40
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dwidmannsudo apt-get install module-assistant. Also, be sure you have the universe repository enabled02:40
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piratemathDoes anybody have experiance troubleshooting prism cards? Mine connects to my network during install but for some reason won't work after02:40
jerryhi02:40
dwidmann!universe | root_02:40
jerryI have a question02:40
uboturoot_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:40
root_it is enabled02:40
root_:)02:40
dwidmannjerry: then ask it02:40
dwidmannroot_ try apt-get updating, or switching mirrors02:41
root_ok thx02:41
root_but how to switch mirrors ?02:41
root_:)02:41
piratemathI can't be the only person in the world with a prism card. :(02:41
jerryI'm trying to setup Wake on Lan on my computer so that I can turn it on from other places but for some reason when I try to turn on my computer from a different computer this computer does not turn on.02:41
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dwidmannroot_ in your /etc/apt/sources.list, change the url from http://??.archive.ubuntu.com..... well, change the two letters there to something else ex: us, uk,02:42
root_thanks02:43
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dwidmannjerry: I've got no idea.02:44
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dwidmannpiratemath: true, but I bet you could be the only one in the channel with a prism card02:45
root_is there a difference if it says "main restricted universe multiverse" or just "universe multiverse"02:45
padcomabout the prism cards...02:46
killermach_n/m I'll reboot into mandriva have to figure out later if it can be fixed in ubuntu02:46
padcomI have such one on my desk, I've tried to make it work about a dozen of times and I've given up02:46
padcomI went to the store and bought something more kubuntu-friendly02:47
dwidmannroot_: personally, I don't like the way the /etc/apt/sources.list looks by "default" ... I could have written it more clearly. As per things, root_, so long as you have a second line somewhere with "main restricted", having a line with just "universe multiverse" is fine.02:47
root_ok thanks again02:47
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dopeis it possible to mount a drive that's on another computer on the network02:47
padcompiratemath: so my advice - go and buy something that works02:47
dwidmanndope: Yes02:47
dopehow i do dat02:48
bubu1ukdope: nfs02:48
dwidmanndepends on the type of network02:48
dopeit's a local area network02:48
dopewithin the area02:48
dopelocally02:48
padcomdope: what's the os that "exports" the filesystem you want to mount?02:48
doperinux02:48
dwidmanna *nix network (nfs), or a windoze network (samba)?02:49
dopeboth computers are rinux02:49
dwidmannrinux??02:49
bubu1uklol02:49
dopei'm azn02:49
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boblenyHey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...02:49
padcomdope: setup an nfs server and use nfsfs to mount - to know how just read some howtos about it - there's a lot documentation leading you step-by-step02:50
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dwidmann!nfs02:50
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.02:50
dopecrap, i can't just say mount dope@192.168.1.123:/dev/hda102:51
dopeor something like that02:51
padcomdope: I'd say it's the most native way of exporting filesystems on *nixes02:51
padcomdope: almost02:51
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bubu1ukdope: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy look for NFS02:51
padcomdope: but you need to have a server that gives you the mount point02:51
dopeok, it's a step in the right direction02:52
padcomdope: even on windoze you need to enable sharing to be able to do that02:52
padcomdope: btw - what's the catch with rinux?02:52
dopei can't tell you02:53
bubu1ukdope: u have to setup server. anything like that on network works on client/server basis02:53
padcom:)02:53
bubu1ukpadcom: he can tell u but he'd have to kill u. :p02:53
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padcomall: since I'm the new guy to the whole GUI thing (I like it though) I'd like to apologize if this question is ALAIG (as lame as it gets)02:54
padcomall: how to install hardware-accellerated drivers for Nvidia on Kubuntu?02:54
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chris_can anyone tell me how to edit the /etc/apt/source.list file?02:55
dwidmannpadcom: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig02:55
chris_it wont let me edit it says i dont have any premission02:55
bubu1ukpadcom: u might look at ubuntuguide.org02:55
dwidmann!sudo | chris_02:55
ubotuchris_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:55
chris_thanks alot02:56
bubu1ukchris, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:56
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chris_i run that in terminal?02:56
bubu1ukchris, yes02:56
chris_ok thanks02:56
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bubu1ukchris, u can use any editor instead of kate02:56
chris_so i should install kate first ehh.. :)02:57
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bubu1ukchris, u should have it.02:57
bubu1ukchris or try nano02:57
dwidmann!kdesu | chris02:57
ubotuchris: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo02:57
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chris_kool02:58
bubu1ukdwidmann: heh, didn't know that. lol02:58
padcombubuluk: does it work without problems or should I count on system crash after that?02:58
bubu1ukpadcom: worked for me.02:59
padcomok02:59
bubu1ukpadcom: u shouldn't hav any problems02:59
padcomlet's test this02:59
dealerHello good folks! I've just reinstalled Windows, now my grub loader is gone, and I've just started ubuntu using the cd, but I have no idea how to get my old ubuntu up again, anyone can point me in the right direction ?02:59
dwidmannbubu1uk: I've run into the problem before, had me baffled for a while02:59
chris_kate:cannot connect to x server?02:59
bubu1ukchris_: try nano02:59
dwidmannchris_: are you using sudo, or kdesu?03:00
bubu1ukkonsole based03:00
chris_sudo03:00
bubu1ukdwidmann: do u use kdesu in konsole as well?03:00
chris_but i'm useing gnome03:00
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bubu1ukpadcom: worked?03:01
dwidmannbubu1uk: I use sudo for shell apps, but I use kdesu for launching gui apps03:01
bubu1ukdwidmann: ah, ok.03:01
dwidmannbubu1uk: I've also been known to use kdesu for doing tricky things on occasion ;)03:01
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endo602Can someone help me install geforce 6600 gt drivers?03:02
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dwidmannendo602: for dapper: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config, for edy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig03:02
endo602thanks03:03
dealerAnyone know how I can get my old grub loader up again? I've got ubuntu and windows on same computer, but reinstalled windows, and that removed the grub loader03:03
bubu1ukdealer: try to look in ubuntuguide.org, i think there's guide for it. but not sure03:04
dwidmanndealer: I think to fix that you use the livecd, and run sudo grub-install <device>03:04
dealer<device> would then be hda ?03:05
dealeror a selected partition ?03:05
dwidmannIt'll accept /dev/hda, I believe03:05
dealerI'll try then03:05
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chris_what about mplayer how do i install that with apt03:06
padcomall: next problem with nvidia drivers: I've a 16:10 LCD panel and can't get the proper resolution with nvidia-glx drivers03:06
padcomall: how to fix that?03:06
dealer"Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."03:06
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dwidmannpadcom, you wouldn't happen to be lucky enough to know the horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges for your monitor would you?03:06
bubu1ukpadcom: also u might need to check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.03:07
bubu1ukpadcom: i think it's there.03:07
padcomdwidmann: since it's an LCD panel those kind of information aren't given out so easly as with CRT monitors03:07
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dwidmannpadcom: well, I have an lcd and I found it for mine pretty easily, so it can be done.03:07
dwidmannpadcom: googling for your monitors model with something like "model horizontal vertical" might find you something, that's how I found it for mine03:10
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endo602hmmmm03:10
padcomdwidmann: what do I do then? RTFM?03:11
endo602dindt work03:11
dwidmannpadcom: let me know when you have them, and I'll tell you what to do03:11
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padcomdwidmann: isn't there a utility to set this up? I mean other than the poor System settings thing03:12
dwidmannpadcom: not really, the easiest way to get the proper resolution/refresh rate is to tell X what your horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges are, and that's done with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:13
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dealerHow can I load an iso on to a diskett ?03:16
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dwidmanndealer: k3b will likely do that for you03:16
endo602how do i remove an nvidia kernel?03:17
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dwidmannendo602, just what are you trying to remove, exactly, and why? (If it's not broken, not much sense in trying to fix it afterall)03:18
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endo602i installed bu mistake the drivers from nvidia website03:18
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endo602and it installed a kernel03:19
endo602now its conflicting with the drivers you just mentioned03:19
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mrtaran123hi is anyone awake now03:20
mrtaran123i have trouble compiling a driver03:21
mrtaran123dont know where the problem is, i can paste stuff03:21
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endo602All i really need is change the resolution03:22
endo602how do i do that?03:22
josh_is kubuntu 7.04 stable?03:22
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endo602dwidmann, how do i modify the resolution because it is not allowing me from kcontrol03:24
dealerdwidmann: I cant find how to make that iso on to a disket, only burn on cd's03:24
dwidmannoops, back03:24
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dwidmanndealer: hmm, I'll look it up for you then03:24
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dwidmannendo602: if kcontrol won't let you, try systemsettings ... I've actually had m ore luck with systemsettings guidance module then it tends to get credit for. Also, another place you can check is nvidia-settings03:25
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endo602dwidmann,  where can i find that?03:26
dwidmannsystems menu, most likely03:26
padcomall: thanks for hints anout nvidia.. it didn't work and it's getting a little late for me. I'll give it another shoot tomorrow03:27
padcombye03:27
dwidmannlater padcom03:27
endo602awesome03:27
endo602works better now03:28
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dealerdwidmann: found it ;)03:29
dealercommands03:29
josh_how does kubuntu 7.04 work03:29
josh_is it any different?03:29
endo602dwidmann, know anything about setting up an ident?03:29
dwidmanndealer, I'm having trouble finding it on google, though it was just a passing glance I gave. I'd probably know if I had a floppy drive, haven't bothered with one of those for at least 5 years.03:29
intelikeyhow can you tell what the swappiness is set to ?03:30
dwidmannendo602, looking to register your nick?03:30
intelikeyor where the default settings are ?03:30
endo602dwidmann, i am looking to set up a secure ip03:30
dealerdwidmann: dd if=sgd_0.9528_english_floppy.img of=/dev/fd003:30
endo602so that when i log into my home ftp i can put ident in addy03:30
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dwidmanndealer, good to know you found it then03:31
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dwidmannendo602, no idea.03:31
endo602dwidmann this nvidia kernel is killing me03:31
dwidmannhow so?03:31
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dwidmannbesides, don't you mean linux kernel + nvidia kernel module?03:32
dealerthanks for all help dudes! Have a good night!03:32
Search4Lanceris there an easy way to identify really large files and directories? all of a sudden I'm out of space03:32
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intelikeySearch4Lancer du03:32
K-RyanHow do I install Mplayer? http://atrpms.net/dist/el4/mplayer/03:32
endo602well when kubuntu loads up it kicks me to console instead of logging into x rright wway03:33
intelikey!mplayer03:33
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile03:33
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:33
K-RyanThanks intel, should of tried that...03:33
Search4Lancerintelikey: du?03:33
intelikeySearch4Lancer man du03:33
K-RyanPackage mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:33
K-RyanThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:33
K-Ryanis only available from another source03:33
dwidmann!multiverse | K-Ryan03:34
ubotuK-Ryan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:34
dwidmannalso, don't forget to update before trying to install it03:34
K-RyanUmm, I think I enabled the repos for universe already03:34
dwidmannNot universe, multiverse03:35
K-RyanHow do I enable that?03:35
K-RyanHaven't seen it before03:35
dwidmannuniverse = community maintained, multiverse = nonfree03:35
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K-RyanI'm checking that link from before, hold up.03:36
soundgatewhat the difference between the cd and dvd installer of kubuntu 6.10?03:37
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dwidmannsoundgate: the dvd installer is more flexible03:37
soundgatedoes it have more applications?03:37
dwidmannallows for text only install, alternate install, oem install, live install, etc03:37
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dwidmannI think it has all of the "main" repository on the disk as well03:37
bartisthello03:37
bartisti have to modife modprobe.conf03:38
intelikeysoundgate the default installed packages are the same  but the dvd has more on it.03:38
bartistwhere is that file?03:38
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dwidmannbartist, /etc, I think03:38
soundgatewell i try to use adept installer and try to install some games on it but there aren't any games here03:38
bartistthanx dwid, i ll check03:38
K-RyanHey that repository enabling thing isn't the same for me.03:38
intelikeybartist /etc/modprobe.d/  i think.03:38
K-RyanIn Adept under "Adept" there is only quit.03:39
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intelikeybartist or maybe not.03:39
dwidmannbartist, then again, I think that's one of those files that the various linux distros never seemed to standardize, you won't find that file at all03:39
bartisti ve found /ETC/modprobe.d03:40
intelikeybartist what is the desired end result ?03:40
K-RyanNeverrrr mind...03:40
bartistbut there is no modprobe.conf03:40
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dwidmannbartist, modprobe.d is a directory though03:40
bartistthe aim? recover sound03:40
mrtaran123build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.            ...........03:40
bartistyes modprobe.d is a directory03:40
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dwidmannI think for things you want to load, you can place it in /etc/modules, or create a file in /etc/modprobe.d03:41
intelikeybartist what is the desired end result of editing said file?03:41
manchickenMan, the dev channels are dead right now.03:41
bartisthowever, i can not find the modprobe.conf file03:41
intelikeydwidmann yeah that's what im fishing for...03:41
bartistby editing that file I want to make my sound work03:41
intelikeybartist so you are going to add  "make my sound work"  to that file ?03:42
intelikeyof course not.03:42
bartistno, i am going to add ac97_quirk=003:42
bartistbut there is no such file,03:43
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bartistshould i create it?03:43
intelikeyok  then probably  in   /etc/modprobe.d/options03:43
bartisti ll try03:43
dwidmannbartist, as I said, /etc/modprobe.conf probably exists in other linux distros, like redhat or whatnot, but not in debian based distros.03:43
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Cardinalhey guys.... so how can I get libcss from apt-get ?03:45
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Cardinalit should be apt-get install libcss03:45
Cardinalbut its not in any of the repositories03:45
Cardinalso I have to find one that has it03:45
CardinalcorrecT?03:45
bubu1ukCardinal: sudo apt-cache search libcss03:45
intelikey!find libcss03:46
ubotuFound: libcss-tiny-perl03:46
intelikeyhmmm doesn't seem to be.03:46
bartistok i ve modified the file03:46
bartisti'll reboot to see if it works03:46
bartistthanx03:46
intelikeybubu1uk so you don't get it with apt-get then.03:46
intelikeybartist luck.03:46
bubu1ukintelikey: well, is libcss exact name of package?03:47
Xbehave!beryl03:47
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl03:47
intelikeybubu1uk find would have auto completed it as it did for the one it found.03:47
intelikey!find kde03:47
ubotuFound: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, hwdb-client-kde, kde-core, kde-guidance (and 502 others)03:47
intelikeyexample ^03:48
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intelikeybubu1uk what exactly are you needing libcss for ?03:50
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bartistARRRRGGGHHH !! ! ! !03:51
bartiststill no sound03:51
intelikeysee if nalioth is in #ubuntu03:52
bartistno nalioth ....03:53
bartistshould i make a fresh install?03:53
intelikeyprobably wont help.   unless you did have sound and now you don't for some reason.03:53
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bartisti did have sound03:54
bartistand i dont anymore03:54
intelikeybartist oh   and what changed ?03:54
bartisti have no idea03:54
bartistone day it just stopped03:54
intelikeybartist well in that case it could fix it.     do you have a seperate partition for /home ?03:55
bartistthen i did sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils03:55
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bartistfollowed by sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils03:55
bartistand it work for a day or two03:55
bartistthan my sound server crashed03:56
bartistand no more sound03:56
bartistno matter what i do03:56
intelikeyhmmm.03:56
bartisti've followed this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide03:56
bartistbut nothing works!03:56
bartisti'll try to create a new user to see what happens03:57
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bartistif nothing happen i am affraid i'll have to make a fresh install03:57
intelikeycat /proc/asound/cards  shows the correct hardware ?     cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp  doesn't make static ?03:57
K-Ryan!mplayer03:57
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile03:57
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:57
mrtaran123http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1645/03:57
mrtaran123http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1645/ newbie error03:58
charlie5hi folks ... is there a way to be sure that a piece of hardware works ok in linux ? ... considering getting an external usb hardrive (seagate)03:58
K-Ryancharlie, most externals are hardwired as a file system03:58
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K-RyanFat32 is compatible with Linux03:59
K-RyanNTFS however is treated as read only03:59
intelikeymrtaran123 install   build-essential03:59
charlie5K-Ryan: so it should just work, when i plug it in ? ... sounds great03:59
K-RyanAs long as it is Fat32 both Windows and Linux can communicate with it.03:59
mrtaran123instel:its already installed03:59
K-RyanThat's what I did with mine charlie503:59
bartistthis cat /proc/asound/cards shows correct hardware04:00
intelikeymake sure you have kernel-headers installed04:00
K-RyanI read somewhere that Ubuntu/Kubuntu can read most mass storage devices.04:00
bartistthis cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp freeze my konsole04:00
mrtaran123i have them installed too04:00
charlie5K-Ryan: thanks ... are there any downsides to an external ? ... in general, are they noisy or slower, maybe ?04:00
K-RyanSomething like that, you know, cameras, externals, etc.04:00
K-RyanThey are as fast as the transport rate.04:00
intelikeymrtaran123 make a sumlink for the headers.04:00
K-RyanI'm limited to non-USB 2.0, but it still goes pretty fast04:00
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K-RyanMine is pretty quiet.04:01
bartisti think i'll go for a fresh install04:01
bartisteverything was fine under dapper04:01
charlie5K-Ryan: as long as its quick enough to watch a movie without pausing now and then04:01
K-RyanHey guys, when trying to install Mplayer, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:01
mrtaran123intelikey? how to make a sumlink?04:01
intelikeybartist yeah.04:01
K-Ryancharlie5 I haven't tested that, but mine has served well so far.04:01
K-RyanDo you have USB 2.0 ports?04:02
K-RyanIf you do you shouldn't have to worry about it at all.04:02
JucatoK-Ryan: is Adept open when you are trying to do this with apt-get?04:02
soundgatehow do i use the dvd as a repository source in adept manager?04:02
charlie5two or three, i think ... though i have never used them04:02
intelikeymrtaran123 please check that the actual dir exists.   sudo ln -s /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386/build /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build04:02
K-RyanYes Jucato, I closed it now04:02
K-RyanNow i've got another error04:03
K-RyanPackage mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:03
K-RyanThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:03
K-Ryanis only available from another source04:03
K-RyanE: Package mplayer has no installation candidate04:03
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bartistintelikey, i hace always had all my linux data under the same partition04:03
bartisti've a 33GB hd04:03
bartistwhat you you think would be good partitions04:03
bartist30GB sorry04:03
JucatoK-Ryan: is your multiverse enabled?04:03
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K-RyanI think so04:04
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K-RyanI'll check Adept for it04:04
intelikeybartist ffr if you use a system partition of about 5g and a home partition of *g you can reinstall at any time without touching your home04:04
K-RyanBut I'm pretty sure I already enabled it.04:04
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intelikeybartist it comes in really handy if you have things you want to keep in /home/yourname/   else you have to save all that somewhere.04:05
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K-RyanHrmm, well right now I'm updating..04:06
intelikey Mem usage: 13.1/249.2 MB (5%)04:06
bartistyes but all the config files are in home04:07
bartistsometimes it is good to reset config files04:07
bartistmay be i should have 5gb system + hoome04:07
bartistand *gb /storage folder04:07
intelikeybartist all that requires is rm -fr ~/.???*04:07
K-RyanUmm, I "fetched updates" in Adept and now at the bottom it says Filtering... and nothing is happening04:07
K-RyanFrozen?04:07
K-RyanOr does it usually take a minute?04:07
Jucatosometimes, yes04:08
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intelikeyone can reset their home before or after install.   with that command.    just a thought....04:08
K-RyanRestarting...04:09
K-RyanOh, maybe not..04:09
K-RyanYeah multiverse is good, let me try the download again now that I updated04:09
intelikeyrestarting what ?     this is not M$ reboot04:09
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K-RyanI was going to restart my computer =P04:09
|lostbyte|dhq_, Hi !!04:09
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K-RyanKonsole says something is using my adept stuff04:10
bartist[13:37]  <intelikey> bartist all that requires is rm -fr ~/.???*   __ what do you mean?04:10
K-RyanBut nothing is open04:10
K-RyanOh, found it, Adept notifier04:10
intelikeybartist you said "<bartist> yes but all the config files are in home   <bartist> sometimes it is good to reset config files "04:11
bartisti have to put rm -fr ~/.???* in konsole to reset those config files?04:11
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endo602dwidmann, you still around?04:11
JucatoK-Ryan: nah, adept notifier is harmless. did you close Adept while it was still updating?04:11
K-RyanI don't think so04:11
K-RyanIt was past 100% and that area closed04:12
dwidmannsomeone rang? Ah, yeah, I'm around endo60204:12
endo602dwidmann,04:12
endo602can i tell you the whole story?04:12
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endo602i installed the drivers from the nvidia website04:12
dwidmannsure04:12
intelikeybartist if you keep your home and want to reset to a default state   that will do it.     but i doubt that it applies, seeing that your home is not seperate from your /   thus all in /home is lost on a reload of linux.04:12
endo602but it didnt work04:12
endo602then i installed the drivers you told me to04:12
dwidmann!envy | endo60204:12
ubotuendo602: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy04:12
endo602now they are conflicting04:12
K-RyanYeah still getting that error04:13
K-RyanCheck process list?04:13
dwidmannYeah ... how to fix, I gave up on myself, then I just used envy to redo the ones from the nvidia site, correctly04:13
bartistwell thanx for the advice04:14
bartisti ll go for a fresh install04:14
bartistsee ya04:14
mrtaran123intelikey: i checked that the actual dir exists.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1647/04:14
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mrtaran123 <mrtaran123> intelikey? how to make a sumlink?04:14
Jucato!adept crash fix | K-Ryan04:14
ubotuK-Ryan: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:14
endo602so what do you suggest?04:14
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intelikeymrtaran123 i gave you the string.  ^    example; ln -s origenal link04:15
mrtaran123en04:15
mrtaran123i did it04:15
K-RyanI'm still getting the "this package is not availible" thing04:15
K-RyanBut multiverse is enabled...04:15
mrtaran123i pasted it to the pastebin for ya04:15
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intelikeymrtaran123 yeah  i see    now make sure the dir exists.   lol       here's how. ls -dl /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build04:16
JucatoK-Ryan: you might not have enabled the correct multiverse04:17
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K-RyanI'll pasttebin you my sources04:17
intelikeybtw   that's checking the link you made, mrtaran12304:17
K-Ryan!pastebin04:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:17
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elyonCould someone please tell me how to enable higher resolutions?  I've already edited xorg.conf to include the higher res, but they aren't presented as options.04:17
Jucatoelyon: you have restarted X after editing xorg.conf?04:18
Jucato!xconfig | elyon04:18
ubotuelyon: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".04:18
mrtaran123hmm....04:18
mrtaran123lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-01-15 11:03 /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build -> /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386/build04:18
mrtaran123thats the outcome04:18
elyonJucato: Ah... lemme try that.  Thank you.04:18
intelikeymrtaran123 ok.    now make04:18
K-RyanOh, hold on, how do I access my source list through kate? I can't remember the full command04:18
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mrtaran123 /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory04:19
mrtaran123Makefile.inc:69: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.04:19
mrtaran123thats the outcome...04:19
elyonJucato: Okay, I've restarted X, but it still only allows up to 1024x76804:19
intelikeymrtaran123 then     ls /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386/build04:20
Jucato!xconfig | elyon04:20
ubotuelyon: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".04:20
elyonJucato: I've already tried that...04:20
elyonShall I try again?04:20
endo602dwidmann, i cant find that script in adept04:20
intelikeymrtaran123 i'm still thinking you may not be pointing the link to the right place.04:20
K-Ryan!sources04:20
Jucatoelyon: won't hurt :)04:20
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:20
K-Ryan!sourcelist04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
dwidmannendo602: and you won't04:20
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JucatoK-Ryan: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:21
K-RyanHow do I open my sources in kate? I can't remember the command...04:21
dwidmannendo602: you'll have to d04:21
K-RyanThanks04:21
dwidmann** click the link and downlod it04:21
dwidmann*download04:21
K-Ryanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1649/04:21
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elyonJucato: Hmm... for some reason that worked ;)  I never worked in gnome, but now that I've install Kubuntu as well, its fine :)04:22
Jucato:)04:22
mrtaran123intelikey: are there any packages to let you access this computer remotely?04:22
intelikeymrtaran123 notice i wanted you to make sure the dir existed befor the link was made because i'm not sure the address is correct.  could be /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386   or  /usr/src/kernel*2.6.15-27-38604:23
mrtaran123sounds like a guessing game otherwise..04:23
JucatoK-Ryan: add the word "multiverse" to the end of this line:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe04:23
K-Ryanline number?04:23
mrtaran123intelikey: i feel bad wasting your time so much04:23
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K-RyanOr should I make it a new line? Jucato04:23
endo602dwidmann, which package?04:24
mrtaran123hmm04:24
charlie5K-Ryan: cheers for the help earlier ... decided to go ahead and get the ext harddrive ... thanks04:24
JucatoK-Ryan: just add it. no need to make a new line04:24
dwidmannendo602, the one that you get from ....04:24
dwidmann!envy04:24
K-RyanNo problem charlie504:24
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy04:24
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JucatoK-Ryan: lines 16 and 1704:24
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endo602there are many ther04:24
Valmarkohi, how can I be s04:24
K-RyanAlright, let's try again shall we?04:25
JucatoK-Ryan: yep :)04:25
Valmarkosure I have 'radeon' driver in my system?04:25
intelikeymrtaran123 yes there are. but i don't want to.   just look in /usr/src   and see what is there.  the error you are getting is because the symlink /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build   is pointing to the wrong address.     one can also  dpkg -L kernel-headers-2.6.15-27-386     and see where the correct address is.04:25
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elyonOkay, so now I have another question:  How do I hide/show only KDE apps (so I don't have all the gnome equivalents visible)?  And is it possible to remove the programs that I will never use that are part of kubuntu-desktop? (Specifically, kmail, konqueror, etc)04:25
endo602how do i install it04:26
K-RyanYeah judging by the multitude of lines of lines passing by, I'd say it worked. Thanks Jucato!04:26
JucatoK-Ryan: no problem04:26
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intelikeymrtaran123 if my time was not free,  you couldn't afford it.   so don't worry.04:26
mrtaran123en im pasting now..04:26
K-RyanYou can remove packages through Adept I think elyon04:26
boblenyHey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...04:26
intelikeywhat would a drowning man give to breath for one more hour.04:27
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intelikeyJucato you familear with the kernel-headers  missing symlink in /lib/modules/*/   error that a lot of makefile's spit out ?04:29
Jucatointelikey: um.. nope... sorry04:29
intelikeyk04:29
intelikeynp04:29
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intelikeyi'm about 30 second from rounds, so i'll be back in an hour or so.               mrtaran123     maybe someone else can step in and help on that.  if not i'll be back.04:31
T3hWiz0r1can someone in here help me figure out why my ipod only mounts in read-only mode? its hfsplus format.04:31
mrtaran123intelikey: sorry its slow here, okay..04:31
intelikeyk04:32
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seebhi everybody, is there any testdisk superuser around ?04:32
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seebor.. may be someone know a good bruterecovering software ?04:34
T3hWiz0r1does anyone know why my ipod only boots into readonly mode?04:36
T3hWiz0r1i've tried to set the permissions in fstab to allow acess to my specific user... its a 5.5gen video ipod04:36
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T3hWiz0r1been searching around the ubuntu forums with little resolve.04:36
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shadowhywindhay all a quick question, take for example the konsole command ifconfig | grep 'Link' .. Is there another konsole command that i could add that would ignore the line with lo04:43
rmarianskishadowhywind: you can add a '| grep -v ^lo'04:44
shadowhywindTHANKS! that did it04:45
rmarianskishadowhywind: great04:45
makuseruis there a sound frequency generator in kubuntu04:47
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shadowhywindone more question could i also do grep -v ^'127.0.0.1' ?04:48
shadowhywindor does the ^ have to change?04:48
rmarianskishadowhywind: the ^ just means to match the start of the line04:48
rmarianskigrep -v 127.0.0.1 should work04:48
shadowhywindthanks that did it04:48
shadowhywind*hates regular expressions* hehe04:49
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KillerBeeis it possible to install kubuntu on reiserfs3?04:49
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boblenyin "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" under "section Monitor", what would happen if I commented this line out "Option "DPMS""?04:59
makuseruis there a sound frequency generator in kubuntu05:00
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KillerBeedamn I must say damn good job on kubuntu05:03
Balsamic_Chickenhi is there any program in ubuntu that allows me to make screen capture shots for videos that I have?05:03
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Balsamic_Chickenkubuntu*05:03
T3hWiz0r1robotgeek: hey are you there?05:03
T3hWiz0r1i guess heres the question i want to propose to anyone who wants to listen: I need to know if it is possible to force linux to write to hfsplus?05:04
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n8k99T3hWiz0r1: you have to turn journalling off within OS X05:06
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n8k99then edit your fsck table to mount that partition05:06
T3hWiz0r1n8k99: will that require data to be formatted anyway?05:07
n8k99I do not understand your question05:07
T3hWiz0r1n8k99: will this require me to lose all data on my ipod?05:07
n8k99oh- that's a different thing05:08
T3hWiz0r1i figure i may as well back up the content on my ipod and format it over...05:08
T3hWiz0r1apparently formatting it for windows lets it work on both mac and linux too05:08
T3hWiz0r1or so i've heard05:08
n8k99I don't own an iPod so no relevant experience to offer, sorry05:09
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T3hWiz0r1i thought linux could write to hfs... hmm05:10
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n8k99it can - I'm just not certain how to do it with an iPod - I do it on my hard drive  share os x with kubuntu05:12
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boblenyin "/etc/X11/xorg.conf", under "section Monitor", what would happen if I commented this line out "Option "DPMS""?05:14
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endo602dwidmann, still having issues05:16
dwidmannHmm, describe305:16
endo602when i tell envy05:17
endo602to install05:17
endo602the screen goes blank for quite some time05:17
endo602just the cursor blinking05:17
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dwidmannendo602, oh, I forgot about that part05:18
endo602:(05:18
dwidmannfirst, kill X, and log in on VT105:19
endo602VT1?05:19
endo602how05:19
dwidmannview terminal one05:19
dwidmannor something like that05:19
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endo602how do i do that?05:19
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dwidmannX can be killed with ctrl + alt + backspace05:19
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dwidmannit will probably send you back  to view terminal one05:20
endo602hmmm05:20
endo602ill try now05:20
makuseruis there a sound frequency generator in kubuntu05:20
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elyonCould someone help me get my refresh rate over 60??  My eyes are killing me!05:22
endo602dwidmann, just brings me back to the welcome screen05:22
dwidmannokay, log back out, and in kdm, select "console login"05:22
dwidmannthen run envy05:22
intelikeyjust dropped back in to say we have a break down, i probably wont be back tonight.   see ya tomarriey05:22
dwidmannenvy can't be run while X is running05:22
endo602aha05:23
endo602ill try that05:23
endo602then i want to install the drivers correct?05:23
dwidmannyup05:23
boblenyPLS05:24
plugsmount point /media/hdb1 does not exist, how do i fix that?05:25
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dwidmannplugs: sudo mkdir /media/hdb105:26
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plugsyay!05:27
dwidmannelyon: will be easy, if you've got the vertical refresh and horizontal sync ranges for your monitor05:27
elyondwidmann: I don't.05:27
soulriderplugs: do you understand why the first time it didnt work ?05:27
elyonI used to have it running at 75, but after reconfiguring xserver, it only offers 60.05:28
plugsyeah, i do. i just didnt know what to do about it05:28
plugs=] 05:28
soulriderok05:28
soulriderjust remember to give it a directory where to mount :P05:28
soulriderone that exists :P05:28
dwidmannelyon, hmm, I'm not sure why, but it usually does have something to do with what your telling xorg ... and it certainly is much easier if you know the ranges for the monitor05:29
boblenyin "/etc/X11/xorg.conf", under "section Monitor", what would happen if I commented this line out "Option "DPMS""?05:30
dwidmannbobleny: one way to find out05:30
boblenylol05:30
boblenyRight, ask someone...05:30
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plugs=\ another question, i reinstalled kubuntu and i don't remember how to add support to play .avi files, any help?05:31
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dwidmannplugs: avi files will play ... avi is just a container format though, what matters is what video codec they've been encoded with05:32
plugswait,,, isnt it libxine and whatnot05:32
plugshmm let's think05:32
dwidmannYou're probably thinking of libxine-extracodecs05:32
plugsi think i probably am05:32
plugsit doesnt exist anymore?05:33
dwidmann!multiverse | plugs05:33
ubotuplugs: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:33
plugsah right i have to enable all those05:34
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zeekstarris there a way I can hide my IP address at all times?05:34
MinatakuOn Freenode, you mean?05:35
MinatakuJust register for a mask05:35
zeekstarrno I mean on 6.1005:35
zeekstarris there a way so it's always hidden, while browsing the web, etc...05:36
MinatakuNo, there isn't... well, maybe tor but I don't know enough about that to say anything05:36
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zeekstarralright thanx05:37
plugsawright. installed libxine-extracodecs and i'm good05:38
plugsexcept i dont think the sound works05:40
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RugHowdy all, I am using Kubuntu Edgy but I use fluxbox as my WM.  Why don't the 'kde' apps get system settings saved when I close them?  (ie. I setup konqueror to show file-manager the way I like it, but if another app opens konq, then my saved preferences are not used.)05:52
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endo602dwidmann, still not working05:53
dwidmannReally?05:53
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dwidmannyou aren't trying to install nvidia-glx after are you? That would probably fail, and miserably at that ...05:54
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endo602no i am not05:55
endo602device still is vesa05:55
dwidmannendo602: well, that would be a problem then05:56
dwidmannyou need to change it to nvidia ... nvidia-xconfig does the job well, though I think envy probably asked you to run it05:57
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endo602envy hasnt05:58
endo602nvidia-xconfig doesnt have the options to change it05:58
dwidmannrunning it is all it takes, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" changes everything to suit05:58
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dwidmannno options needed05:58
zeekstarrare any video screenshot tools in the kubuntu repositories?05:59
endo602after i do that should i restart?05:59
dwidmannendo602, well, you would at least have to restart x06:00
dwidmanndon't need to do a full reboot though06:00
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Delphinus is it possible to set ssh to ask what username you want to login to remote machine with like putty does?06:01
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endo602got it to work for the time being06:01
endo602thanks so much06:01
dwidmannYou're welcome06:02
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RugDelphinus: you could try this:   ssh username@server.com06:05
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Delphinusyeah i normally do, but i would prefer is possible to just go ssh server.com, then have it prompt me for a username06:05
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RugI can't think of any other method06:07
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sinlesshola06:08
sinlesssomeone speak spanish?06:08
Minataku!es | sinless06:09
ubotusinless: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:09
Minataku^^06:09
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juano_what can i get to play wma in xmms?06:16
dr0fnax_away!ru06:16
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:16
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juano_what can i get to play wma in xmms?06:20
juano_what can i get to play .wma in xmms?06:20
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dwidmann!multimedia | juano_06:29
ubotujuano_: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications06:29
manchickenSo quiet in here.06:30
dwidmannI guess quiet is the ultimate goal of a support channel ... the point where people have their questions asked :)06:32
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Search4Lancerthis may seem silly, but.... how can I empty the Trash as root?06:39
Search4LancerI'm running into a permissions problem06:39
Search4Lancerresulting in my not being able to empty the trash06:39
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juano_cant get xmms to play wma :(06:42
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endo602is there a way to setup a folder in /home that is routed to a folder in somewhere else?06:46
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manchickenendo602: What exactly are you trying to do?06:54
manchicken!wma | juano_06:54
ubotujuano_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:54
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Junomanchicken: http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=45306:56
juano_manchicken: thanks ill try to reinstall win32codecs06:59
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manchickenJuno: It's still proprietary trash.07:02
Junomanchicken: but free =D07:02
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manchickenJuno: No, it still costs you your freedom.07:02
Junohow so?07:02
Jucatoahem...07:03
manchickenJuno: Do you get the four freedoms with it?  This document doesn't say you do.07:03
manchickenJucato: Wait a minute, where were you 15 minutes ago? heh07:03
JunoI'm not sure what the four freedoms you're talking about are07:03
Jucatomanchicken: watching... I don't know anything about xmms07:03
Jucatomanchicken: I'm sure you'd love to educate Juno regarding the ideologies of the Free Software Movement in #kubuntu-offtopic :)07:04
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JunoYea, because I actually am curious07:05
manchickenJuno: Freedom to use for any purpose, freedom to the source code and to study that source code, freedom to distribute up to and including selling, freedom to distribute modified copies up to and including selling.07:05
makuseruwhats the name of the ubuntu distro that uses xfce?07:06
manchickenBut with that, I shall retire for the evening.07:06
manchickenadept won't compile.07:06
manchickenI broke it.07:06
manchickenI'll have to fight it some more tomorrow.07:06
manchicken^_^07:06
SlackwiseAdept /is/ broken by nature.07:06
Jucatomakuseru: Xubuntu07:06
manchickenNaw, adept is just misunderstood.07:07
makuserutheres another though07:07
HawkwindLOL @ adept.  Now there's a piece of code that is pretty worthless07:07
makuseruhad a pretty long name07:07
JunoArk linux uses Kynaptic?07:07
SlackwiseI stick to apt-get/cache/dpkg and Synaptic, since they work.07:07
JucatoJuno: no07:07
SlackwiseAdept is just... worthless, really.07:07
SlackwiseIt just needs love.07:08
JucatoAdept needs work. which is what manchicken is trying to do...07:08
Jucatodon't throw out the baby together with the tub...07:08
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JunoJucato: thats what its called =\07:08
JucatoJuno: what do you mean?07:08
manchickenJuno: Here is some more information for your reading (since you said you were curious) http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html07:08
manchickenNow I really do have to go to bed.07:08
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JunoJucato: ArkLinux doesnt have adept.  It has a package manager called Kynaptic07:08
manchickenI need to get some sleep so that I can make some serious progress tomorrow.07:08
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JucatoJuno: aah... you have to be specific. There's an app installed named "Ark", which is a compression/decompression app (think Zip, Rar. Tar.Gz)07:09
manchicken|awayNighty night all you happy people.07:09
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JunoJucato: ahh...  yea sorry.  I confuse people with that all the time. =\07:10
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JunoSo can anyone take a shot at helping me fix my video issues?07:10
SlackwiseJuno: What kind of card do you have?07:11
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SlackwiseJuno: Also, what kind of video problem? As in playing videos, video as in your video hardware...?07:11
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JunoSlackwise: ati radeon x700 pro.  no major problems just annoying things.  I can't set up my dual monitors correctly, and the background images I use have screwed up colors in the dark areas.07:12
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juano_cant play wma in xmms still07:13
juano_:(07:13
SlackwiseJuno: Ahh, no clue about dual monitors in Linux, but the dark area problem sounds like a hardware overlay problem.07:13
JunoSlackwise: and google earth runs horribly also.  =\07:13
SlackwiseJuno: I used to be an ATI lover, until I realized they're all "LOL LINUXXX" so now I purchase only NVIDIA cards. :/07:14
JunoSlackwise: I've come to dislike ATI lately myself, but I can't afford to get a new card rght now.07:15
MinatakuYeah, ATI is a DRM Whore07:15
SlackwiseThis really sounds like a driver issue, and me having no recent experience with ATI cards, I'm not that great of a help. :/07:16
SlackwiseJuno: I'd send you my NVIDIA 5700 Ultra... if it weren't broken :(07:16
SlackwiseWorked beautifully in Linux.07:16
SlackwiseUntil Vista broke it07:16
Junocan you not send it in for warrenty?07:16
Slackwise(Seriously, I launched a screensaver in Vista and it died)07:16
SlackwiseJuno: I'm going to try, but I got impatient with it and decided to buy a new card anyways.07:16
MinatakuSlackwise: Let me guess, you tried to watch a DVD and it said "LOL I THINK YUO STOLED THIS" and fried the card07:16
SlackwiseGot me a cheap XFX 6800GT07:17
SlackwiseMinataku: I think the chip was damaged from heat stress, actually.07:17
SlackwiseAnd using the DirectX 9/10 BS that Vista has must have made it freak out on launching that fancy screensaver.07:17
MinatakuOr even better "Windows Vista has detected that your video card lacks HDCP. Windows Vista will now destroy this card and force you to buy a new one."07:17
SlackwiseIt faded into darkness, and then my monitor lost the signal... and that was the last I heard of my card.07:18
SlackwiseFor the record, it was acting flakey in the first place.07:18
MinatakuLeave that part out07:18
MinatakuThat last line07:18
SlackwiseFrom a cold boot, I'd have to power cycle at least 2 or 3 times07:18
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Slackwisebefore i would get a video signal after POST07:18
MinatakuIt's much better if you don't mention that, trust me07:18
MinatakuXD07:19
MinatakuI can see it on the blogs now07:19
Minataku"WINDOWS VISTA DESTROYS VIDEO CARDS"07:19
SlackwiseI'm just going to call eVGA and ask them if they can fix up my card, and if so, I may setup a desktop for my little sister or donate it to someone needy :P07:19
Juno <--- someone needdy07:19
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MinatakuTake it apart and throw it piece by piece through the windows at Microsoft HQ07:19
MinatakuHaha... broken windows at Microsoft07:20
Junolol07:20
MinatakuI'm sure they're used to it, wink wink07:20
MinatakuXD07:20
Slackwiselol07:21
MinatakuI didn't intend for that to be a pun but it ended up being one of those ultra-rare puns that was actually funny so I'm happy with it07:21
MinatakuX307:22
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K-Ryanhey guys, know what aa3d does?07:43
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Death_Monkey_Does anyone have any suggestions for installing Firefox?07:46
K-RyanHaving problems?07:46
Death_Monkey_I don't understand the process of installing things from tars07:46
K-Ryanwell a .tar.gz is like a .zip file on windows07:46
K-Ryanyou just extract it07:46
K-Ryanhowever07:46
K-Ryanif you goto your kmenu, then add/remove packages07:47
K-RyanSearch firefox, it should be in there, install it through there and it will be much easier07:47
Death_Monkey_Alrighty07:47
Death_Monkey_I'll probably end up doing that for this07:47
K-RyanI reccomend it07:47
Death_Monkey_But is there a tutorial you can point me to for future installs?07:48
Death_Monkey_I will be needing to install some wacom drivers and some other things that are not in the add/remove07:48
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yanI didnt see an html editor in add/remove programs?  Is there an easily installed one?07:48
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K-RyanFor installs im not sure07:49
K-RyanI myself am not too good with em, just got Linux myself07:49
Jucatoyan: Quanta, Nvu07:49
Death_Monkey_Yan - did you see Quanta Plus under Development?07:50
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Death_Monkey_Okay, thanks K-Ryan07:50
K-RyanUmm, anyone else have trouble running the streams in amarok?07:50
K-RyanNo problem Death_Monkey07:50
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K-RyanMy streams connect, but I hear nothing07:50
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K-Ryan!streams07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streams - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
K-Ryan!amarok07:52
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok07:52
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K-RyanAnyone know how to get mp3 streams to work?07:59
K-RyanCan anyone reccomend a program that will work with mp3 streams?07:59
unix_infidelanyone know if its possible to setup an export of thunderbird or evolution calendar to an ftp and have it sync up?07:59
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yanthanks for quanta08:04
yanim checking it out08:04
Jucatoanyone here using Scribus on Kubuntu?08:05
K-RyanAnyone know how to run Kodo or AMOR under the Others section of Adept?08:05
K-RyanI installed them, but I can't find out where it put them...08:05
juanoanyone know how to make wma play in xmmS?08:06
juanoive tried all the basic stuff... doesnt work08:06
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darrellhi all08:08
yanis there any program in kubuntu that nativly connects to Exchange server?  Not using IMAP or POP?08:08
darrelli need help, please08:08
darrelli need help about beryl, some one please?08:09
Jucato!beryl | darrell08:09
ubotudarrell: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:09
K-Ryanthanks jucato, was about to do that =P08:09
unix_infidelanyone happen to know what the typical flash drive costs in terms of electricity...a typical USB slot puts out about 900mW08:10
K-Ryanflash drive shouldnt be too much08:10
unix_infidelK-Ryan: I'm thinking about doing a DIY hack of a USB hub and a couple 2GB usb flash drives that go for pretty cheap.08:11
K-RyanWhy?08:11
K-RyanWouldn't it be cheaper to get a small external?08:11
darrellMy beryl setting not work, what can i do?08:12
K-RyanEspecially considering externals usually rely on a power source of their own08:12
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unix_infidelbecause 8GB flash drives...are expensive.08:12
K-RyanNo, an external hard drive08:13
K-Ryanyou could probably get a 50gb external, or even a 20gb if you wanted08:13
K-Ryanwouldnt be too costly08:13
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K-Ryanand would be a lot more efficient than a couple of flash drives08:13
unix_infidelahhh, i forgot to consider bus efficiency.08:14
K-RyanI mean, I know my SD card for my camera is 2GB and that cost $30 bucks08:15
K-RyanSo for the price of a usb hub and a couple of flash drives, you could just get an external hard drive and have 3x the space at least08:16
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lupine_85 flash is not good for constantly writing to08:16
lupine_85really not good08:16
K-RyanI don't have experience with it so I wouldn't really know about that...08:16
lupine_85if you're just using it for media storage, it'd be OK08:16
K-RyanGood to know though, thanks08:16
lupine_85but if you're mounting / on it... make sure /tmp at least is in RAM08:17
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K-RyanWell its a quarter after 2 in the morning08:17
K-RyanI'm out, night guys08:17
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sinbad33*huggles*08:23
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usuariohola ?08:25
usuarioxD08:25
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yanis there a GUI PPTP vpn client for Kubuntu>08:31
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Jucatoanyone else using Scribus here?08:36
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dennishi! on my laptop i cannot use the touchpad (perhaps because i updated all packets...) - can anyone help me? what shall i do?08:59
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yanis kubuntu dapper or etchy09:05
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yan!dapper09:06
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".09:06
yan!etchy09:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:06
yan!edgy09:06
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes09:06
dopeDAPPER DRAKE WHAT WHAT!09:06
dopeis fiesty gonna have kde 4?09:06
yanwhat is the current iso for kubuntu?09:07
yandapper ?09:07
dopeedgy is the latest09:07
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dopedapper is 6.06 and edgy is 6.1009:07
yanhow can i tell what I have?09:07
dopethat's a good question09:07
Hawkwindcat /etc/lsb_release09:07
yanwheres right click my computer?  lol09:07
Jucato"lsb_release -a" in Konsole09:07
HawkwindOr lsb_release -a actually09:08
HawkwindLOL09:08
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dopetry "sudo shutdown -h 0"09:08
Jucatodope: and what exactly is that for?09:08
dopethat'll shutdown the computer09:08
Jucatoand what relation does it have to yan's question?09:09
HawkwindHalts the systems09:09
HawkwindJucato: It doesn't.09:09
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dopewhen he starts it back up it might say09:09
dopejust a guess09:09
Hawkwinddope: Seriously overboard d00d09:09
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dope:O09:09
dopewhenever i have a problem i use that command09:09
yani thought you never had to reboot linux.  :)09:09
dopeonly when you're as talented as i am and can muck things up09:09
yanlol09:10
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yancodename dapper09:11
yanthanks09:11
yanwhats LSB?09:11
dopelight side base09:11
yantx09:11
dopeactually i'm not serious09:12
dopei've no idea09:12
dopebut that would be my guess09:12
yanthis is hard enough09:12
JucatoLinux Standard Base09:12
Jucato!lsb09:12
dopewas close09:12
ubotulsb: Linux Standard Base 3.1 support package. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-10ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB09:12
Jucatobah not very helpful09:12
HawkwindHah09:12
Jucatohttp://lsb.freestandards.org/09:13
yanpptpconfig: Depends: php-gtk-pcntl (>= 1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed09:13
yanwhats that mean?09:13
yanis pptpconfig using an outdated package?09:13
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yanso it cant be installed?09:13
Hawkwind!lsb09:14
ubotuThe Linux Standard Base, or LSB, is a joint project by several Linux distributions under the organizational structure of The Free Standards Group to standardize the internal structure of Linux-based operating systems. The LSB is based on the POSIX specification, the Single UNIX Specification, and several other open standards, but extends them in certain areas.09:14
dopepptpconfig has a dependency09:14
dopei believe09:14
dopeand it has to bet met before you can install it09:14
yanseems to be php-gtk-pcntl09:14
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yanbut it says it wont install it?  or that means I have to apt get that first?09:14
dopeif you use the package manager it should d/l everything for you09:15
yanI thought apt got whatever it needed09:15
yanits not in the package manager09:15
dopetry the package manager09:15
dopei know09:15
dopeoh09:15
dopeno?09:15
dopeit should be09:15
yanpptplinux is09:15
yanbut not config09:15
dopehit reload09:15
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yanhey09:16
yancool09:16
yanits there now09:16
dope:)09:16
dopei can sometimes be helpful09:16
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yanwell hopefully i dont have to reboot into windows to hook up to vpn.  ive got about 2 hours of tinkering before bed09:16
yanits midnight already09:17
dopeit's 3:17am here09:17
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dopei should really go to bed i think maybe09:17
yanlol09:17
dopei think i have sleep anxiety :x09:17
yanhey i just clicked install on pptpconfig and its all red and says break09:17
dopethat doesn't sound good09:18
yannope09:18
yanlol09:18
dopei don't think i've ever gotten that09:18
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yani just search for that php-gtk thing and tried to install it and it says break (install) too09:18
dopehmm09:19
yanyeah says the commit would break packages09:19
dopeoh09:19
yanyeah i went ahead and said apply ... im a clicker09:19
dopewell i dunno09:19
dopei don't think i've ever gotten that09:19
dopejust like my mother09:19
dope:P09:19
yanwell hopefully somebody updtes that09:19
nate_#kubuntu-xgl09:19
yanPPTP vpn is critical09:19
dopei don't use a vpn09:20
dopeor really know what it is09:20
dopevirtual private network09:20
dopethat's about it09:20
yansecure connection to the office09:20
yanalso so i can hook up evolution to my exchange server09:20
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dopei'm sure OSX has something like that09:21
dopei walked out into the living room around 1 to find my roommate and her friend makin out09:23
dopei'm never makin out with her again :|09:23
dopei better not go out there and find them doin it09:23
yanis her friend a girl?09:23
dopei wish09:24
dopethen it wouldn't be a big deal09:24
yanoh bummer09:24
dopeyea :/09:24
yanlol09:24
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yank well i give up.  reboot to winblows and get some work done i guess.09:24
yannite all09:24
yanthanks09:24
dopenitenite09:24
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nate_sooo, who wants to get beryl working on my computer09:28
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|Osiriscan someone help me with my wireless setup? I do not get an ip09:30
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Hawai`iomg...09:40
Hawai`iproftpd is a pain in keister09:40
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nate_87611 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17522.168 FPS is that good?09:41
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stdinnate_: yeah,  that's good. 30FPS is real time, so you got plenty of room there :)09:44
nate_then why cant i get beryl to work? i have a nvidia 7900GS with the drive the envy script downloads09:44
stdinnate_: do you have XGL installed tho?09:45
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nate_ive followed heaps of how to's and they all end up with my system being unbootable09:45
nate_ive done like 5reinstall09:46
nate_s09:46
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stdinwas it this guide ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl09:46
nate_yeh ive tried that one and it didnt work09:47
nate_the nvidia -glx drive dose nothing for m09:48
nate_e09:48
stdinnate_: that page has nothing to do with nvidia-glx, you need to install xserver-xgl09:49
nate_yeh i know, but when it says sudo apt-get nvidia-glx, that driver dose nothing09:49
dwidmann30FPS on a 7900GS sounds kind of weak ...09:50
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stdinnate_: it doesn't sat anything about nvidia-glx on that page09:50
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stdin*say09:50
dwidmannwait, I had missed something (obviously), anyhow, the easiest way to get beryl working has nothing to do with xgl ...09:51
dwidmannthe easy way is: set up the 96xx drivers, add a line to the xorg.conf file, install beryl, and you should be good to go ...09:52
nate_well my pc specs are toshiba p100 core2duo 2ghz, 2gb ram, 7900GS 512mb09:53
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nate_<nate_> nate@NATIOUS:~$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version09:53
nate_[19:48]  <nate_> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9746  Fri Dec 15 09:54:45 PST 200609:53
nate_[19:48]  <nate_> GCC version:  gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)09:53
stdindwidmann: aiglx?09:53
nate_thats the drivers im using09:53
dwidmannstdin, well, I'm not really sure what it is, it may be nvidia-glx, then again, I'm pretty sure whatever it is to do with it is integrated into the nvidia driver itself ... thus requiring the 96xx drivers.09:54
stdindwidmann: if you don't get xserver-xgl then it aiglx (with the latest driver from nvidia)09:55
dwidmannhmm, then I guess it is09:56
dwidmannthen again, I've been told otherwise, and quite frankly, I really don't care and don't want to argue :)09:56
dwidmann Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"09:56
dwidmannyou need th at line in the Screen section09:56
stdindwidmann: is that on edgy or dapper?09:57
dwidmannI'm using edgy09:57
nate_dapper09:57
dwidmannI'm not sure whether that line was required or not , but I do remember reading in one of the beryl howtos (there seem to be too many floating around honestly) that I needed it ... so I threw it in09:58
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stdinon edgy (xorg 7.0) it's easy, on dapper, you need to add a repo and get the xorg update, but you can try it by just adding the lines to xorg.conf and see09:58
stdinopps, it's 7.1 not 7.009:59
dwidmannindeed09:59
stdinif you can get aiglx to work, go with it, it's better than xgl in a few ways09:59
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dwidmannI remember XGL being quite the pain in the butt .. if I wanted to use it with other things that used opengl ...10:01
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stdinyeah, it don't play nice with opther opengl apps10:07
stdinaiglx is fine with them :)10:07
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bartisthello!10:08
bartisti am planing to format ma hdd10:09
bartistto have a frsh kubuntu install10:09
bartisti've 30gb10:09
dwidmannon the bright side of xgl, I can only really name one thing ... kwin + translucency&shadows didn't leak memory on me in an xgl session (always has/did otherwise)10:09
bartistwhat partitions do you recommand me?10:09
dwidmann30gb sounds like plenty10:09
dwidmannProbably 9gb for /, 1gb for swap, and the rest for /home is what I would do, but you can do it however you like of course10:10
bartist30gb = 1 gb swap + 5gb linux + *gb storage?10:10
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bartistdwidmann, they told me to separate /home from /10:10
bartistbut instead of having a separate /home partitions10:11
bartistwhy not having /home on the sys partition10:11
bartistand doing a separate /storage partition.?10:11
bartistin that way, all the config files remain on the sys partition10:11
stdinbartist: it's just in case you ever need to reinstall, you won't loose all your data and settings10:11
dwidmannI must also say that if you only give / 5gb, you'll run out10:12
bartistyes but some time the idea of a fresh install is to have default config10:12
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dwidmannfor example, my / is using 5.2gb right now10:12
stdini was going to say, something like ~10gb for /10:13
stdinyou'll have plenty of space then10:13
bartistalso, i have now 1gb of swap10:13
bartistbut never use more than 100mb10:13
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dwidmann10 is a good number ... it's what I always use :)10:13
bartistso its a waste10:13
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dwidmannI almost never use swap at all ... one of the benefits of having 2gb of RAM10:14
dwidmannyet I still keep my gig of swap because I've got plenty of space to waste10:14
bartisti only have 500mb of ram10:14
mineurhello hello10:14
bartistso what are your recommendations?10:14
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mineurresize your swap :)10:14
bartist1gb swap + 10gb / + 19gb /home?10:15
mineurI don't even have swap turned on10:15
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dwidmannbartist, sounds good10:15
depeszhi. where can i find howto about kubunu (edgy) + beryl (using ati card) ?10:15
stdinbartist: I agree10:15
bartistbut again, i could do: 1gb swap + 10gb / and /home + 19gb /storage10:16
bartistso which one?10:16
dwidmanndepesz, there is an (enormous) thread about both beryl and compiz going on in the ubuntuforums, general section, it's stickied10:16
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depeszdwidmann: thanks. searching.10:17
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dwidmannbartist, up to you, I personally don't see much benefit in seperating my /home and my storage ... but if you do, feel free10:17
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mineurI'd recommend the wiki from beryl itself...10:18
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dwidmannwhich reminds me, I have far too much unpartitioned space at the moment ...10:18
dwidmann!lvm | dwidmann10:18
ubotudwidmann: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO10:18
stdindepesz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl << look there too10:19
mineura efw days ago someone mentioned a soccer game... anyone knows the name of that came?10:19
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mineur*game10:19
stdindepesz: and here :P https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl10:19
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bartistdwidmann if you don't separate them, how do you reset the config of your home?10:20
bartistsorry my internet crashed10:20
bartistdwidmann if you don't separate storage and home, how do you reset yourr config?10:20
mineurreset your config?10:20
depeszstdin: thx.10:20
mineurjust have a backop :p10:20
mineurbackup10:20
bartistarf10:20
stdindepesz: np :)10:21
bartistthe point of doing a fresh install is to have a fresh config too10:21
dwidmannbartist, what I would do to do that would be to create a new folder on the /home partition, move the storage into it, then wipe out the settings, and copy them back10:21
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dwidmanneither that or maybe something like sudo rm -rf ~/.*10:22
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stdinmineur: logs are good: <Mr_L0rD>  bolzplatz2006= a wonderful 3D soccer game10:24
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bartistok thanx for the advices10:24
mineurthat's it! thanx, I was using a different pc then :)10:24
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stdinmineur: I have a 13MB log file, just for this channel :P10:25
mineuryou're addicted :p10:25
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stdinit starts from may 21 2006 :P10:26
bartistthat's a lot to read*!10:26
bartisthours10:26
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stdingrep is your friend :P10:27
Valmarkostdin, what are the most common qustions ?10:27
stdinValmarko: "how do I get mp3s to play? "10:27
Valmarko:) right10:27
stdinthat and flash are the most common10:28
bartistof course10:28
bartistthose are the most comon applications of pcs10:28
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mineurmost common: everything you find with google in > 5 minuts :)10:28
bartistwell i have a fresh install to do10:28
mineur<5 that would be10:29
bartisthave a good evening10:29
dwidmannhmm, my log is only 6mb ... then again, up until recently I always used kopete ... another 5mb there, I think I've almost caught up :O10:29
dwidmann13mb does sound awfully small though, for an 8 month long log10:30
mineuractually this channel is relatively slow for the amount of users in it10:30
dwidmannmineur, not really, seems normal to me ... the lurker to talker ratio always seems to be pretty high ...10:31
ValmarkoCool... I just found out that I have reported the last 100Kb of conversations10:31
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ValmarkoI have a log... I mean10:31
mineurI've seen worse :)10:32
Valmarko:) yaa10:32
nailzI only ask a question here if google cant help :) like whats a good screecasting prog for Kubuntu?10:32
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dwidmannworse ... yes, I think I've seen chans with 500 people ... yet nobody actually talking10:32
mineurscreecasting????10:32
dwidmannnailz, when you find out, tell me, I'm curious10:33
nailzsry *screencasting/ recording prog :p10:33
mineuroh :)10:33
mineurnoooooooooooo idea hehe10:33
nailzheh ty10:34
mineurbut on the ubuntu website there's a collection of screencast videos... maybe you can find out with what they were made, I'll keep my fingers crossed it wasn't on vmware or something :d10:35
stdinnailz: popey wrote a howto thing about screencasts http://popey.com/Creating_Screencasts10:35
stdinmineur: I know the guy who made them :)10:35
nailzstdin thanks much :D10:35
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stdinmineur: I even made one :P10:36
stdinthe only kubuntu one on there :)10:36
mineurhehe10:36
stdinI need to make some more, popey is way ahead of me now10:36
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mineurthat howto looks nice tho, but still I prefer a nice wiki over a screencast :)10:38
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stdinif you're totally new to linux, it helps to have someone show you exactly what to do :P10:39
stdinthey aren't really for the experienced users10:39
mineurI noticed... :)10:39
stdintho plans are to dive in to the cli some time, after the basics are covered10:40
mineurnice10:40
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mineurbut is it needed? Aren't there enough references around for that?  ok I admit, if it will be done as nicely then the whole ubuntu thing... it'll be much better then anything around10:41
ValmarkoI wish I could find the best possible configuration in order to explore the full capabilities of my graphics card. Sometimes I have the sensation that visual performance ( windows opening faster, moving without traces...)of my desktop could be better.10:41
mineurI'm still pretty amazed almost everything on my laptop just works out of the box10:41
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mineurValmarko: you use Beryl or compiz?10:42
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ValmarkoNo. My pc comes with ati radeon 9550 and I use the open source driver10:43
mineurwhy don't you use ATI's driver? any political reasons for that? :)10:43
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ValmarkoNo. I just heard that the one that comes with 6.10  ( the opne source driver) is better10:44
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mineurbut is it the pc slowing down things or maybe it's the nature of the enabled eye-candy?  Some animations look nice but don't add productivity :)10:44
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ValmarkoI understand but... the desktop is set by default. I didnt make any significant changes10:45
mineurhmmm10:46
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dwidmannthe only things I really, really liked about beryl were the zoom, and that one other thing that it does when you go to the top right corner ...10:46
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mineurdwidmann: scale it is called the mac-like expose10:46
mineuryeah indeed it is nice :)10:47
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Jazonhi!  i have my panel menus set up to appear when i touch the bottom of tthe screen.  is there a way to set it so that it isn't instant?  i want to avoid accidental touches10:47
mineurand the cube is nice to show off lol but I agree it doesn't add productivity, but doesn't remove productivity neither10:47
dwidmannasides from that, it kills half of my valuable keyboard shortcuts, and its settings gui is terrible10:47
Jazoni mean, i know there is a way ultimately... (god i love foss)  but is there an *easy* way? :P10:47
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mineurok maybe your expectations are too high? I have KDE with beryl (or should I say Beryl with kde... :) )  and it runs smoothly on my intel graphical card10:47
Jazonyou guys talking about compiz?10:47
Jazonheh10:48
stdinminno beryl, not compiz10:48
stdinopps,10:48
Jazonis beryl better ?10:48
stdinwhy did i type minno?10:48
mineurhas more features10:48
mineurit's a fork of compiz10:48
Jazoni have avoided since compiz.  it totally buggered my desktop.10:48
stdinberyl has more bling :P10:48
Jazonwell, *i* totally buggered my desktop lol10:49
mineurok some call it bling, some call it features hehehehe10:49
Jazonabout my question.... any ideas?10:49
stdinI found compiz don't work well with kde10:49
Jazon^^10:49
ValmarkoA few days my curiosity made me explore other distros and , for example , I founf that using Fedora Core 6 , using the default settings, opens windows really faster. I'm not saying that Kubuntu isnt good. I'm free to choose and I'm very happy for sticking with Kubuntu. For several reasons...10:49
Jazonsame here stdin10:49
dwidmannValmarko, I think it has to do with some flag that they compile their packages with, can't recall what it was10:50
mineurValmarko: have you tried another desktop manager and see if is is slow there to?10:50
stdin-O3 or something ?10:50
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mineurhmm that won't make your apps slower... ???10:51
mineuronly compile longer :d10:51
colin_Hi.  I got Kubuntu 6.06 installed yesterday!10:52
colin_It's very clean10:52
mineurcongratulations colin_ :)10:52
stdin-O = optimise, I don't know all the number meanings, -O2 is normal, I think, and -O3 is optimise foe size10:52
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mineurdon't know all the numbers neither :)10:52
mineurI'm off to study a bit10:53
dwidmannI'll see if I can dig up what it was, I just remember hearing about it before10:53
andres_please som help:10:53
stdinthey probably use some processor specific tuning too10:53
colin_I only start college again next week!10:53
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mineurbut I'm in Belgium... exams started last week............. so lots of time to play with new stuff :d10:54
ValmarkoIt's a good question but... I really like KDE and I guess my pc has the full potencial to handle it right. It's not the latest but I thinck that Pentium IV, 512Mg RAM, 117G sata HD and ati radeon 9550 ( with at least 128 Mb... not sure) it's more then enough to handle KDE at 100%10:54
mineurit is Valmarko10:54
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colin_South Africa10:54
andres_im using kubuntu and i want to se movies from my computer with the tv?10:54
ValmarkoIt's a problem of configuration, I know10:54
stdinValmarko: you can run KDE on a lot less too10:55
ValmarkoI just dont know the right one10:55
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andres_how do i do i downloaded nvtv but doest work10:55
stdinwhat's 'nvtv' ?10:55
ValmarkoThe driver is not configurated in a way that can explore totally the capabilities of the video card10:56
colin_over my head :-) Over and out10:56
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ValmarkoMaybe the next release will fullfill the gap:)10:57
andres_what can you recomend that i do?10:57
stdinwhat is "nvtv" ?10:57
andres_i reed about that bull in a swedish forum10:58
stdin!info nvtv10:58
ubotunvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)10:58
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andres_!info nvtv11:00
ubotunvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)11:00
stdinandres_: try installing it then11:01
keenetest11:01
andres_i have install the program but nothing happens11:01
stdinhave you started the program ?11:01
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andres_yes but nothing happens11:04
stdinread the man page for it11:05
stdinI haven't used it, so I don't know how to use it11:05
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stdinin konsole "man nvtv"11:05
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Jucatokonqueror "man:/nvtv"11:07
stdinwell, that works too :)11:08
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stdinhow come?11:08
Jucatoanyone else able to print in Scribus?11:09
stdinnever tried11:09
JucatoI can't print in Scribus on Linux... I can print on XP, but I can't view the document...11:10
dwidmannI never even managed to get my printer working :\ then again, it's on a computer downstairs that runs windows11:13
Jucatoannoying thing is... other KDE apps print just fine... it's just the app that I really need that refuses to...11:14
dwidmannI thought scribus wasn't actually a kde app, just a qt app, though?11:15
Jucatoyeah... which makes it double annoying... :P11:16
Jucatoi.e., the lack of a working KDE solution... :(11:16
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LynoureJucato: Scribus cannot export in .ps or something?11:19
dwidmannkword 2.0 looks like it has quite a few promising-looking improvements11:19
LynoureJucato: then you could print that.11:20
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daing_Hey, Konqueror only shows /home and /media by default, is there a way for it to show every other folder in / to non-root users?11:32
seven11show hidden files11:32
daing_seven11: Under what menu?11:32
seven11daing_: view11:32
daing_seven11: thanks11:33
seven11no prob11:33
daing_seven11: no, thats not what I wanted. That shows files prefixed with . (normal unix hidden file or directory). I mean the directories hidden by KONQUEROR in the root file system11:33
stdin!hidden11:34
daing_seven11: is there a way to do only that11:34
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles11:34
daing_stdin: cheers11:34
stdin:)11:34
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Jucato!ping11:37
ubotupong11:37
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Jazonhi Jucato :)11:50
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Jucatohi Jazon11:51
Jazoni have my panel menus set up to appear when i touch the bottom of the screen.  is there a way to set it so that it isn't instant?  i want to avoid accidental touches continuously popping up the panels11:51
Jazon(without recompiling kde i mean :P )11:51
Jucatohm.. not that I'm aware of...11:52
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Jucatothe delay only applies to the re-hiding of the panel after your mouse has left...11:52
Jazonhmmm  i may just have to delve into the source code.  this is really annoying :/11:52
Jucatogood luck :)11:52
Jazonhave you ever hacked kde?11:52
Jazonheh11:53
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Jucatoonce or twice11:53
Jucatogtg11:53
Jazonl8r dude11:53
waylandbillI scared Jucato away.. I know it! ;-)11:53
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williamis anyone there that might help me11:58
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williami am having a problem with kubuntu and ltsp12:00
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chuenHi . Is there an app I can use to read 'raw' server logs a client has sent me? (If I should aask this on a forum instead, just say!)12:01
williamcan some one please help with ltsp12:03
mineur[studying] chuen: any editor will do?12:03
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chuenminuer: Sure, but I wanted the log to be 'interpreted' so tha the stats were no longer 'raw' (IYSWIM).12:05
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mineur[studying] what kinda logs are we talking about?12:05
waylandbillwilliam__: what's the problem with ltsp? an error maybe?12:06
william__yes pxe-t0112:07
william__file not found12:07
william__but i can't edit any conf files they are locked by root12:07
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mineur[studying] use sudo?12:07
william__i tried12:07
william__command not found12:07
mineur[studying] what distro are you on?12:08
waylandbillwilliam__: you have a problem in the dhcp server config12:08
william__kubuntu12:08
william__but i con't edit it12:08
william__can't even12:08
waylandbillunder sudo?12:08
william__it says i don't have the rights enough to save my edits12:08
waylandbillvi, kate, nano? what editor?12:09
william__i can't login gui with sudo and gedit doesn't work12:09
william__kate12:09
waylandbillkdesu kate [conf.file] 12:09
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=== mineur[studying] use kdesu
mineur[studying] hmm without the /me :d12:10
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william__so in terminal use kdesu dhcpd.conf12:10
waylandbillAlt-F2 then 'kdesu kate [path to conf] /dhcpd.conf'12:11
mineur[studying] kdesu kate dhcpd.conf12:11
william__ok12:11
william__brb12:11
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william__can i copy and pate the bulk of the exsisting one?12:13
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waylandbilllike an example one? you'll have to edit for your config, but yes.12:13
william__ok12:14
william__thank you12:14
waylandbilltrying to just play with ltsp, or you trying to set up a real world laptop server?12:15
william__trying12:15
william__i have 5 kids and the internet is not where i truely want them but i can't stop them and my wife and i run a business12:15
william__so we all use one connection12:16
william__and all the assets12:16
william__not to mention the kids crassh the system a lot12:16
waylandbillThat'd be perfect.12:16
william__i can't figure it out tho this was supposed to be all in one un like fedora i wan't supposed to have to configure it12:17
waylandbillI used it before when I had a laptop that had a dead HDD. It works good.12:17
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william__i am new to linux and i am not certain what i am doing i tried it the easy way and still didn't work12:17
waylandbillit is the 'easy' way, but you need to educate yourself on the components that comprise a ltsp setup.12:18
william__yea12:18
william__i tried fedora first12:18
william__well i got the same mes there12:18
william__than i ran over this one and well i thought i would sleep better12:19
william__lol12:19
waylandbillI think the hardest is the dhcp server. once you get that, the rest is easier.12:19
william__ok is there a standard to this?12:19
waylandbillyou got the dirst part sounds like... the tftp is running.12:19
waylandbills/dirst/first/12:19
mineur[studying] setting up a dhcp server can't be that hard? :)12:20
mineur[studying] I remember doing it once....12:20
waylandbillit's not hard.. can be finicky sometimes tho.12:20
mineur[studying] used to have a good book tho, well more a lab guide12:20
william__any good ideas?12:20
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william__i have looked at sourceforge theres look different everywhere i go to look they are all different12:21
waylandbilltry putting the pxe files in the root of the tftp folder and not a subdir.12:21
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william__i can't find the tftp root on this system?12:22
waylandbillreally?12:22
william__fedoras is easy its in the root folder but kubuntu hid it on me12:22
william__lol12:22
waylandbillsearch the hdd for pxelinux.012:22
william__app manager says i have one it isn't running but i can't find the root12:22
william__k brb12:23
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waylandbillCVirus: interesting nick... any better than a PascalVirus? ;-)12:28
CViruswaylandbill: well .. it has nuthing to do with the C programing language12:29
waylandbilloh. first thought that came to mind. :-12:29
waylandbilld\12:29
waylandbill:-D12:29
CVirushehe12:30
william__nope it says it can't find it12:30
waylandbillhmm... maybe I got it wrong. try just pxe*12:30
posingaspopularhello room. anyone available to help me with a little install problem?12:32
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william__ok it is in folder opt/lstp12:33
waylandbillposingaspopular: nope. ;-D  what's the problem12:33
william__along with 3 others12:33
waylandbillnow look at the tftp's configuration... is it's root /opt/lstp12:34
posingaspopularwaylandbill: im trying to install super mario war on my compy. i downloaded the dmw-binary.tar.gz file to my desktop12:34
posingaspopularwaylandbill: and since i just switched to kubuntu, i dont know how to install those files12:34
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waylandbilluntar the tar the tarball and probablt is source. you need to install 'build-essential' package12:35
posingaspopularwaylandbill: is that under adept manage packages?12:37
waylandbillyes. build-essential is in adept12:37
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posingaspopularwaylandbill: okay build-essential is installed12:43
william__i think wayland is gone12:44
waylandbillI'm here..12:44
waylandbillneed to reboot12:44
william__oh ok12:44
posingaspopularah12:44
posingaspopularokay12:44
posingaspopularwell12:44
waylandbillneeded12:44
posingaspopulari tried sudo install smw.binary.tar.gz and i got a 'missing destination file operand after `smw-binary.tar.gz''12:45
waylandbillunpack the tarball and usually you'll comfigure; make; sudo make install12:45
waylandbilltar zxf smw-binary.tar.gz12:45
waylandbillit's binary though, so you may not need to build it. I didn't notice that at first.12:46
posingaspopularum what does 'tar' mean?12:46
waylandbillit's a program12:46
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waylandbillTape ARchive12:46
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posingaspopularoh so you want me to unzip/extract it?12:47
waylandbillright12:47
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posingaspopularokay so now i have two folders bin and share12:48
waylandbillouch. they packed it like an rpm. :-/12:49
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waylandbillthey intended you to unpack them to the /usr directory, but the problem is then if you don't like it, it'll be a pain to remove.12:50
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waylandbillWhat are you installing?12:50
posingaspopularsuper mario war12:50
posingaspopularin the bin folder12:50
posingaspopularthere is an smw, which says it's executable12:50
posingaspopularbut it wont run when i click it12:50
waylandbillwhere'd you download it from?12:51
posingaspopularhttp://smw.72dpiarmy.com/ which is the link from the native games, ubuntu document storage facility websight12:53
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waylandbillposingaspopular: they have a source download. you may try that now that you have the build essentials.12:54
waylandbillthat way you can use checkinstall to actually install it and have the option to remove it later.12:55
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waylandbillthat is what I would do anyway. Get the source. Build the source and instead of make install, use checkinstall to make a deb package.12:56
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posingaspopularso which one of these is the actual package?12:59
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waylandbillhttp://forum.72dpiarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=1435   <-- the link that says "Get the sourcecode"12:59
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waylandbillthey don't have an ubuntu or debian package, so I would use the source to make one01:00
posingaspopularoh okay i get it now01:01
posingaspopulari'll just wait a few hours until my brother wakes up and make him toy with it01:01
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posingaspopularthanks01:02
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KennethPWhen installing the webdeveloper 1.0.2 extention on Firefox 2.0.0.1 via Adept on Kubuntu 6.10 I see this 'Not compatible with Firefox 2.0.0.1' message' - any ideas?01:03
KennethPKennethP: According to the developer it should run fine under 2.0.0.101:04
waylandbillposingaspopular:  hey not a problem. if the distro doesn't have a package, using the source with checkinstall is a great way to make sure you can remove it later.01:04
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william__waylan u still there01:05
waylandbillyup01:05
william__which dchpd file am i supposed to edit01:05
karmikazehas anyone else here used suse 10-10.2? im curious as to the performance differences in the 3d desktop01:06
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karmikazeberyl in kubuntu seems *alot* slower and choppier than the suse 3d desktop01:06
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william__which version of linux makes a better ltsp admin01:07
waylandbillkarmikaze: beryl is alpha, so any performance issues can't be taken too seriously.01:07
lassewtf01:07
lasse:D01:07
karmikazeok01:07
lassekonversation sucks01:07
karmikazewhats konversation for?01:07
lassefor irc? :P01:07
waylandbillwilliam__: there should only be 1 dhcp conf file.01:07
waylandbillkarmikaze: IRC01:07
william__nope i have found four01:07
karmikazeirssi ftw01:08
waylandbillwhat's the paths?01:08
lassedoes anyone know how to minimize x-chat to tray?01:08
william__how do i uninstall all of the ltsp and reinstall it01:08
william__one is in usr/shar01:08
william__var/ltsp01:08
william__hold on01:08
waylandbilllasse. You probably have to use a switch on the command line to add an icon since it's not native kde01:09
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lassei don't use kde01:09
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waylandbilllasse: Oh. Gnome?01:09
lassejust tried konversation because it could be minimized to tray01:09
lassewaylandbill: yes01:09
william__one is kde share01:10
waylandbillthey have switches too, but I couldn't tell you off hand... you'll have to look at the docs01:10
waylandbillwilliam__: none under /etc ?01:10
william__uh hold on01:10
william__yup under/ect/dhcp301:11
william__but is readonly01:11
waylandbillwilliam__: That the one! Need to be super user.01:12
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lasseoops, there was a xchat-systray plugin on aptitude :)01:12
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waylandbilllasse: yes... you're right. that'll do it perfect. :-D01:14
blue|palmhello?01:14
lassenow only i could find a way to enable it :P01:15
blue|palmcan anybody help me with an odd install problem? on amd64?01:15
waylandbilllasse. I've used it under xfce way long ago. I think you need to enable an option in xchat itself.... I think01:16
lassei would think that too, but there is no such an option :D01:16
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waylandbilllasse: sorry. when I got a new laptop, went to kde from xfce... been too long to recall.01:18
blue|palmcan anybody help me with an odd install problem? on amd64?01:18
dealerHello good people! I'm in some truble. I've just reinstalled my windows, and that removed my GRUB loader, now I cant boot up my Kubuntu. Can anyone point me in a direction, a web page or something so I can get it up right again _01:18
[StingRay] Hi, stdin :). I need a little help.01:18
lassedealer: just reinstall grub01:19
stdin[StingRay] : hey, you're lucky I just came back :)01:19
dealerlasse: How can I do that ? I'm in Kubuntu now, booted up with the cd, but I found litle help here01:19
waylandbill!ask01:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:19
[StingRay] I had no other choice but to switch from tightvnc to vnc4.01:19
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lassehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html01:20
lassecould that help?01:20
dealerfor me _01:20
dealer?01:20
[StingRay] stdin, On tighvnc I was able to use xmodmap -display :xx /usr/share/xmodmap/xmopmap.my01:20
lassedealer: yes01:20
dealerlasse: Thanks alot :)01:20
blue|palmIve installed kubuntu... no problems during the install, but after restarting post-succesful install (grub works fine too) I am unable to boot ubuntu01:20
[StingRay] stdin, On vnc4serve I cannot switch languages at all, xmodmap and setxkbmap are not working01:21
lassenp :)01:21
william__waylan01:21
blue|palm*kubuntu01:21
waylandbillwilliam__: what's new?01:21
william__nuttin01:21
william__it won't do nuttin01:21
[StingRay] stdin, btw vnc4server supports 21 X extensions as compared to tighvnc which suppors only 7.01:21
william__i have edited the ip addresses and it still won't do it01:21
waylandbilldoes the laptop get assigned an address?01:21
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william__yes01:21
[StingRay] stdin, none of them however support XKEYBOARD,why?01:21
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william__i get error01:22
william__file not found01:22
waylandbillok.. what is it?01:22
william__pxe-0101:22
william__pxe-e3b01:22
waylandbilldo you have that file?01:22
william__pxe-m0f01:22
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william__what file01:22
waylandbillpxe-0101:23
william__i thought those were error codes01:23
[StingRay] stdin, is there another way of switching? If I use switching on the client side all is fine except for the wine applications :(01:23
william__my bad pxe-t0101:23
william__sorry01:23
blue|palmWhat can you do if your kubuntu OS wont boot after a succesful install?01:23
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f4rbr0r^kAll3:O01:23
[StingRay] I have to swich it locally (on the server side) somehow, stdin.01:23
stdin[StingRay] : do the KDE settings work?01:23
waylandbillwhat did you specify as the filename in the dhcp config?01:23
william__pxelinux.001:24
[StingRay] nope, stdin, you know kde settings are using setxkbmap...01:24
[StingRay] setxkbmap depends on XKEYBOARD...stdin01:24
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william__there is also an nbi.img01:24
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stdin[StingRay] : yeah, but I was just wondering01:24
waylandbillyou need that in the exact path of the tftp server then. if it's just pxelinux.0 it needs to be in the root.01:25
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william__oh lord01:25
[StingRay] I am absolutely amazed that xmodmap is not working, stdin.01:25
william__brb01:25
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stdin[StingRay] : yeah, it should work with it01:25
waylandbillso specifying 'pxelinux.0' means you have to have /opt/ltsp/pxelinux.0 if that's where the tftproot is01:26
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[StingRay] stdin, everything else just rocks...compression, response, wine compatibility...only this final problem...01:28
lombrabom dia01:28
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blue|palmhas anybody succesfully installed the edgy amd64 version?01:30
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william__ok what about option file name01:30
william__my bad option root path01:30
aldelvNeeds some help with keyboard on KDE.  Works on  true console and  on xterm started  from xinit but when I start kde from KDM i often get two  ore more chacterers per  keystroke01:30
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william__waylan01:33
waylandbillwilliam__: first thing is you have to know the root of the tftp.01:33
william__got it01:33
william__it is var/lib/tftpboot01:33
waylandbillthere should be a  conf in the etc for it01:33
waylandbillok01:34
waylandbillyou need pxelinux.0 there.01:34
william__there are two filenames01:34
william__i dir the first one to the absoulute path to the pxe01:34
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william__the other is an option root path01:35
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waylandbillI don't think the dhcp conf can have an absolute to the pxe. it has to have relative to tftp root01:35
william__i set the file name as follows01:36
stdin[StingRay] : hmm, I don't know how to make it work, I've not really had that much experience with it01:36
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stdin[StingRay] : I've tried looking on google, but can't find much01:37
[StingRay] ok, stdin. I will share the resolution in case I have one...01:37
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william__var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.001:37
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stdin[StingRay] : freenx has spoilt me :P01:37
[StingRay] stdin, why01:38
[StingRay] I was just going to decide for it..., stdin01:38
william__the option root path goes to an nbi.img01:38
stdin[StingRay] : because it's easy to get it running, and you can specify a keymap01:38
mineur[studying] anyone using Beryl having problems with some screensavers too?01:38
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[StingRay] :), stdin. How did you install it, seveas repos?01:39
waylandbillwilliam__: copy the amd64's files to var/lib/tftpboot and then set the filename to just pxelinux.001:39
waylandbillI had a problem that the boot files couldn't be in a subdir.01:40
stdin[StingRay] : I just downloaded it from nomachine, this was before there was a howto on the help page tho01:40
william__do what01:40
[StingRay] stdin, a guy yesteday warned me that seveas are broken as it comes to suspend/resume. I can confirm it too, though I made some modifications and now only 10% of the sessions are during internet drop01:40
william__copy all the files in the amd 64 to a new dir01:40
[StingRay] stdin, :) i went the same way!01:40
waylandbillthe files in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/  ... copy them to /var/lib/tftpboot01:40
[StingRay] the problem is that nomachine, has limited it to only 2 connections, stdin :(. Otherwise nxserver from nomachine is just perfect...01:41
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william__wont let me copy and paste01:42
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waylandbillin terminal as super user01:42
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william__i am not sure how to do that01:43
stdin[StingRay] : for me 2 connections was fine, as it was only to connect to my desktop when I was away01:43
waylandbillsudo cp -R /var/lib/tfpboot/ltsp/amd64/* /var/lib/tftpboot/01:44
[StingRay] I agree, stdin, however I need 6-7 permanent connections01:44
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william__says no such directory01:46
william__i appologise i don't know what ia m doing01:46
Valmarko!LTS01:47
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.01:47
ValmarkoWhat about version 6.10. Is it going to be LTS after 7.04 comes out ?01:48
mineur[studying] I'm pretty sure it isn't :)01:48
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Valmarkowhy?01:49
Valmarkoummm... I think I understand01:49
mineur[studying] because it's practically impossible.. ubuntu wants a release every 6 months....... you can't offer support for that long for every release :)01:50
ValmarkoAfter 3 years, 6.06 passes the legacy to the next one01:50
william__still with me waylon01:51
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mineur[studying] LTS is imho only important for server releases01:51
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embrapasomeone can help me ?01:52
mineur[studying] depends with what :)01:52
embrapaok.01:52
embrapai try to start firefox01:52
embrapabut returns that message01:52
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embrapaXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server01:52
embrapaXlib: No protocol specified01:52
embrapa(firefox-bin:10796): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:01:52
Jucato!someone01:52
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:52
stdinembrapa: are you trying to start it as root?01:53
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embrapayes01:53
stdinembrapa: why?01:53
friul_hackhi01:53
embrapawhy ?  what?01:53
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stdinembrapa: why are you trying to start it as root?01:54
embrapahumm01:54
embrapai dont know01:54
embrapadont works?01:54
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embrapai will try whith a comon user01:55
dealercan I mount a NTFS disk, when I've only booted up with the CD ?01:55
stdinit's dangerous to run as browser as root01:55
stdindealer: yeah, sure01:55
embrapastdin: thank you01:55
embrapait works01:55
william__waylan01:55
dealerstdin: how do I mount it ? 'man mount' ?01:55
ValmarkoI wonder what that message from glxinfo really means -- libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b01:55
stdindealer: do you know what device the ntfs partition is on? (eg /dev/hda1)01:56
ValmarkoDo you know the meaning of it?01:56
dealer /dev/hda601:56
mineur[studying] just an unsupported OpenGL feature, not sure which exactly01:56
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stdinValmarko: It means your card doesn't support one of the extentions, I get it, it's fine :)01:57
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embrapastdin:  how i configure the firefox ? the browser dont have proprerits...why?01:57
stdindealer: just run "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt" then it will be mounted in /mnt01:57
william__can i get some help01:57
dealerstdin: You just saved my day!01:57
stdinembrapa: it's in Edit -> Preferences01:58
stdindealer: no problem :)01:58
ValmarkoI know... if aint broken , dont fix it. Well, no exactly. If it can be better, do something :)01:58
stdinValmarko: you can't fix it, it's hardware01:58
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william__i am having issues with ltsp01:58
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mineur[studying] it can't be better... it's probably your card not supporting a feature so the driver can't do better :)01:58
embrapastdin: Thank you man! u01:58
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stdinembrapa: no problem :)01:58
Valmarkoahhh... Now I got it :)01:58
dealerstdin: I dont have access to that folder when I try to open it01:59
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embrapastdin:  how i put on link of firefox on my kde desktop?01:59
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william__lookin for help with ltsp01:59
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dealerPermission denied02:00
stdindealer: ok, un-mount it "sudo umount /mnt" then mount it like this "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt -o uid=$(id -u)"02:00
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william__hey waylan02:01
stdinembrapa: go to the menu entry in the K-menu, right click it, choose "Add Item to Desktop"02:01
dealerstdin: I would have kissed you, have you been within reach!!! Now I'll be ready for The Burning Crusade :-D02:01
william__i need some help with copying files to a different dir02:02
stdindealer: heh, that's ok, a "thanks" is enough :P02:02
dealerwell, thanks :-D02:02
stdin:)02:02
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okiremaubtntu-es02:06
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william__can someone tell me the best distro for using ltsp02:06
mineur[studying] distro doesn't matter william__02:06
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william__well i am having issues getting it to work02:07
william__i was getting help from waylan but has yet to pull it all to gether02:07
mineur[studying] I never configured ltsp, but in general there's no better distro for getting something particular done... once you have all the tools installed it's a matter of configuration... I'm not familiar with ltsp configs tho... :(02:09
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william__thank you02:09
william__i will have to figure it out someother way02:09
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dealerI've just mounted a NTFS partition, and I'm only running Ubuntu troughout the CD, and I'm trying to put some files in it, but I dont got permission to  wright anything onto it02:20
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dealerHow do I make myself some access ?02:20
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aldelvdealer probably mounted read only02:23
MidMarkdealer: write to ntfs it's set off due to possible corruption02:23
dealerIs there anyway I can overrun this =02:24
dealerI need to put 2 windows install files on that drive02:24
dealerpartition02:24
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dealerI did a 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt -o uid=$(id-u)02:25
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MidMarkdealer: you can red ext2/3 partitions from windows02:26
MidMarkthis is safer02:26
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MidMarkdealer: do NOT mount in write mode02:26
MidMarkyou will destroy your data02:26
dealerahh02:26
dealerthanks for the warning then ;)02:27
MidMark!ntfs02:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:27
MidMarkthere are some other projects like 3d and fuse but at your own risk02:27
MidMark!fuse02:27
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:27
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MidMark!ntfs-3g02:27
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)02:27
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Martiinihello. Anyone knows if I can automount all partitions read/write without editing fstab? If I use "autofs" ?02:30
MidMarkdealer: better create a fat32 partition to swap data or use explore2fs for windows to read ext2/3 linux partitions02:30
andres_rar/zip prog for kubuntu ???? help02:30
MidMark!rar02:30
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free02:30
MidMark!zip02:31
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:31
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Martiiniexcuse moir ... i havve questioooon , pleaase02:32
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dealerThanks for the help dudes!02:33
Martiinican I make ubuntu automount ..like knoppix02:33
MidMarkMartiini: why you don't want to edit fastab?02:33
Martiinidont know .. just dont wanna :) ..02:34
Martiiniwill kubuntu mount partitions with autofs .. the way its done in knoppix?02:34
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lupine_85it does here02:34
dealerI used a program, just when I've installed Kubuntu, witch automounted all my disks in  '/media/' rather nice :-D02:35
Martiinidealer ,  remember what it was called?02:35
lupine_85it "just does it" here02:35
Martiinimine doesnt02:36
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Martiiniyou know .. the way knoppix mounts all and gives you option to make writable02:36
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dealerMartiini: Sorry, I don't :(02:36
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andres_thanks!!!!!!!!!!02:38
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MartiiniMy life has no meaning02:54
MartiiniIm gonna get suicidal in #kubuntu02:54
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Martiiniheh.. if I died .. noone would care02:55
Martiinipeople die every day02:56
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nyuszifulsziasztok02:58
nyuszifulAre here hungarian people?02:58
stdin!hu02:59
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu02:59
nyuszifulok02:59
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lemsfinns det ngon motsvarighet till frontpage i kde?03:00
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andreasw!se03:01
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se03:01
stdinanyone good with udev rules?03:02
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andreaswstdin: The only rule I ever created was for my usb disc ^^03:07
Martiinihmhh .. ive edited fstab .. but still dont mount03:07
Martiini .. /dev/hda7 /media/hda7     ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=et_EE.utf8 0       003:07
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stdinandreasw: all I want is to make my now scsi disks fall under the "disk" group again03:08
stdinMartiini: add "auto" to the options03:08
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endo602how do i mount an extfs with all permissions>?03:11
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stdinextfs?03:12
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endo602e203:12
endo602sorry03:12
stdinendo602: you mean ext2 or ext3 fs ?03:12
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RadeoNhi ya guys.it's a nice day isn't it?03:13
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endo602ext303:13
endo602its ext303:13
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stdinendo602: permissions are stored on the filesystem for ext2/3, so it doesn't matter mow you mount it, the permissions will be read from the filesystem03:13
andreaswRadeoN: At least it doesn't rain ^^03:14
endo602how do i edit that03:14
endo602because its not letting me delete03:14
RadeoNyeah,hey andreasw where r u?03:14
stdinendo602: use sudo03:14
andreaswRadeoN: Germany and you?03:15
RadeoNoh my...i'm from Sri Lanka03:16
endo602how can i make so all users can delete?03:16
andreaswthe world is small at least in IRC ^^03:16
endo602how can i make so all users can rename03:16
DaSkreechRadeoN: Not bad03:17
RadeoNwhat do u do andreasw03:17
Lynoureendo602: usually you only want to make things so that users in certain group can delete and rename. Not all of them.03:17
RadeoNi guess so DaSkreech03:17
DaSkreechendo602: Hello.03:18
endo602i want all03:18
endo602hello03:18
endo602its fine03:18
endo602on this disk03:18
DaSkreechendo602: What are you trying to do?03:18
endo602its just media03:18
endo602setup one of my dirsk so that all users can do what they want with it03:18
andreaswRadeoN: right now I am trying to waste some time in irc hrhr03:18
DaSkreechendo602: Do you understand Unix Permisions?03:19
RadeoNdon't say like that03:19
RadeoNthey need help,i need help03:19
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LynoureDaSkreech: I do not think he'd be wanting what he says he want if he did...03:19
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DaSkreechLynoure: Better to ask03:20
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LynoureDaSkreech: I'm really curious about what you'll say if the answer is "yes" :)03:21
endo602DaSkreech, no03:21
RadeoNhey how can i play mp3 files on Kubuntu?03:21
TehUniRadeoN: amaroK03:22
TehUnior one of the many others03:22
MartiiniRadeoN:  make sure you HAVE ALL codecs03:22
andreaswbut you need mp3 support03:22
Martiinino matter how I edit fstab,, ntfs partitions dont mount03:23
RadeoNi have installed w32codecs but it didn't work03:23
andreaswRadeoN: you need libxine-extracodecs03:23
MartiiniRadeoN:  , did u use easyubuntu, automatix03:23
TehUnithe newest version of amarok installs them for you.03:23
stdin!mp303:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:23
DaSkreechendo602: OK Hold on03:24
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MartiiniRadeoN:  go to http://ubuntuguide.org/  and start there03:24
DaSkreech I take it that the Ubuntu Wiki doesn't havea page on Permissions :)03:24
RadeoNwhere i can download libxine-extracodecs03:24
stdinDaSkreech: not that I know of, but wikipedia does03:25
Jucatofrom the repositories.03:25
Jucatoenable the multiverse section03:25
stdin!info libxine-extracodecs03:25
endo602ill check it out03:25
DaSkreechstdin: I wanted something more practical than an explanation03:25
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB03:25
Jucato!multiverse | RadeoN03:25
ubotuRadeoN: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:25
DaSkreechendo602: http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml03:25
Martiinihold on with your mp3-s now .., please03:25
endo602so i chmod the drive?03:25
Xbehave!firefox03:26
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:26
MartiiniIve edited my fstab in every possible way .. but ntfs partitions dont mount03:26
DaSkreechJucato: It's ubuntu-motu that controls ubotu ?03:26
Xbehaveerm where is the firefox support channel is it on this irc or do i need to go find thiers?03:26
JucatoDaSkreech: no. why?03:26
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endo602daskreech can you give me an example out to use this for a folder?03:26
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DaSkreechendo602: Did you read the page I just gave you?03:27
DaSkreechJucato: I wanted to ask if there is a factoid for unix permissions03:27
Jucato!permissions03:27
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux03:27
DaSkreechJucato: Or rather if there should be03:27
DaSkreech>_<03:27
Jucato^^^^^03:27
DaSkreechLying Bot!!03:28
DaSkreechendo602: I'm sorry there is a better page03:28
DaSkreechendo602: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions03:28
Martiinioh great ,, uk and us teenies have conquered the channel03:28
andreaswMartiini: lol?03:28
DaSkreechMartiini: Can you mount the NTFS manually?03:28
Martiinithey just dont mount03:29
andreaswDo you get any error message while trying to mount them?03:29
Martiini.. /dev/hda1 /media/hda1     ntfs-3g    defaults,auto,locale=et_EE.utf8 0       003:29
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DaSkreechMartiini: No mount them manually :)03:30
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DaSkreechand that ntfs-3g looks suspect :)03:30
Jucato!ntfs03:30
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:30
stdin!ntfs-3g03:30
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)03:30
Martiiniaah, jaa, I CAN mount them manually ... so what gives03:31
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ubuntu_qualche italiano?03:33
stdin!it03:33
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:33
ubuntu_thnks03:33
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ubuntu_che versione posso usare su un hp pavillion dv 6146eu con vge ati03:34
ubuntu_vga03:34
vgei think you didint ment me03:35
ubuntu_che versione posso usare su un hp pavillion dv 6146eu con vga ati... il live cd non carica03:36
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stdin!it | ubuntu_03:37
ubotuubuntu_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:37
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DaSkreechendo602: How are you?03:40
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andreaswhmm music playback stopped again in amarok suddenly anybody else got that bug?03:44
DaSkreechandreasw: Only when streaming03:44
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andreaswDaSkreech: I have that problem with every sound file but sometimes it takes a view hours until it happens again so its not so easy to reproduce it03:45
DaSkreechYou have a few hours long sound file?03:46
andreaswDaSkreech: no I mean I can play music for a view hours in amarok with no problem but suddenly it hangs at some files which previously had been played very well03:46
DaSkreechandreasw: Does restarting the sound file start back sound?03:47
andreaswDaSkreech: and after that amarok GUI hangs and I have to kill it and restart it to play music again03:47
DaSkreechOhhhh03:47
DaSkreechHmm03:47
andreaswDaSkreech: I think xine crashed somehow or maybe somthing else03:47
DaSkreechSounds like it. Do you have any CLI apps that use xine?03:48
andreaswCLI?03:48
DaSkreechCommand line03:50
stdinCLI = Command Line Interface (terminal/conso;e)03:50
andreaswah ^^03:50
stdin*console03:50
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DaSkreechendo602: Hello? :)03:50
andreaswok we don't use that in german so I had no clue what you mean ^^03:50
andreaswDaSkreech: No at the moment only amarok uses xine03:51
DaSkreechHmm03:51
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andreaswI already hat the problem with dapper03:52
andreaswhad03:52
andreaswarg03:52
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DaSkreechHave you asked in #amarok if anyone has reported something like hat03:54
DaSkreechIt may be a sound driver as well03:54
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andreaswI asked there 4 times and I never got any answer ^^03:55
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andreaswThe worst bugs are the ones you can't reproduce every time03:56
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andreaswI also don't understand why Kubuntu changed my xorg.conf yesterday it detected a hardware change but I didn't change my hardware03:57
mowgli_hi, all, Ubuntu+KDE user here! plug-ins to be able to watch WMV and QUICKTIME movies, anyone can help?03:57
andreaswstrange  ;)03:57
andreaswmowgli_: w32codecs03:57
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Jucato!wmv | mowgli_03:57
ubotumowgli_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:57
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mowgli_from Synaptic menu?03:58
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DaSkreechmowgli_: read the site :)03:58
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stdinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs03:58
Jucatomowgli_: for WMV and WMA? no. read that site ^^^^03:58
juaneverytime i open a new webpage kubuntu launches a new instance of firefox, the page merges into the existeing firefox but for 5-10 seconds or maybe more theres a new ff in the taskbar, any ideas on how to fix03:58
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endo602DaSkreech, i just read that page04:00
stdinjuan: that's "launch feedback" it's not actually a window04:00
endo602DaSkreech, seems to be just for files04:00
endo602not folders04:00
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DaSkreechendo602: Directories are files04:00
endo602cool04:00
DaSkreechendo602: do a ls -l on a directory with sub directories04:00
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DaSkreech you will see it has teh same permissions04:01
juanstdin: can i get rid of it?04:01
DaSkreechendo602: The difference is that on a folder x means that you can go into the folder r means that you can see what is inside it and w means you can create new files inside of it04:01
stdinjuan: maybe if you disable it in the menu entry, right click on the Firefox entry in the Kmenu, choose "Edit Item" and deselect the option04:03
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DaSkreechendo602: If that makes sense to you :)04:04
KomiaPoikahow do you undisplay the xdm error console?04:04
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endo602yeah04:04
endo602how do i make it for all subfolders also?04:04
juanthx stdin04:05
stdinnp04:05
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DaSkreechendo602: how are you changing the permissons?04:07
DaSkreechon the command line?04:07
endo602yeah04:08
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hildahola04:09
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BluesKajHowdy all :)04:09
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DaSkreechBlues!!04:09
DaSkreechendo602: chmod -R04:09
BluesKajhey DaSkreech!04:09
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DaSkreechendo602: I should probably teach you man while I'm at it04:10
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DaSkreechendo602: If you have a command you wnat to know more about you can read the Manual on it04:10
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DaSkreechso for chmod try typing man chmod04:10
DaSkreechYou will get a list of all the options etc04:11
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endo602ill doing this \04:11
endo602but it isnt working04:11
DaSkreechto exit the manual page press q for <Q>uit04:11
DaSkreechendo602: You used a Capital R?04:11
endo602still wont let me create04:11
endo602can you give me an example04:11
endo602becaue i am doing this04:12
DaSkreechendo602: paste the line you are typing so I can see it04:12
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endo602sudo chmod 777 /media/hdd104:12
DaSkreechendo602: Ah. What kind of drive is hdd1 ?04:13
MartiiniI have exatly the same fstab lines for /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda7 .. but only hda1 mounts ... mtab says that both are mounted ...04:13
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fuelhi how do i change the resolution of my screen ??? its showing only 1024x768 at top04:13
fueli tried the one provided in the control center04:13
DaSkreech!resolution04:13
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:13
endo602ext304:13
stdinyou can't chmod a filesystem04:13
Martiinifuel .. go to ubuntuforums.org and read about xorg.conf04:13
fuelok04:13
DaSkreechendo602: Oh.. Hmm04:14
stdin!xconfig | fuel04:14
ubotufuel: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".04:14
DaSkreechendo602: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/hdd104:14
Martiinifuel .. there you go04:14
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MartiiniI have exatly the same fstab lines for /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda7 .. but only hda1 mounts ... mtab says that both are mounted ...04:15
endo602still access denied04:15
endo602when i try and rename folder04:15
stdinendo602: easiest way is to make a directory on the filesystem and make it writable to all04:15
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endo602root can do it but others cant04:15
endo602?04:15
endo602i did that doo04:15
endo602too04:15
endo602didnt work04:15
Martiiniendo602:  have you set correct permissions04:16
DaSkreechendo602: What are you trying to do make it writeable to all?04:16
stdinendo602: not on /media/hdd1, on something like /media/hdd1/shares04:16
endo602i did that04:17
endo602sudo chmod -R 777 /media/hdd1/share04:17
seaLnehas anyone tried to compile qtopia 4.2 in kubuntu? i'm wondering if i'm missing dependancies04:17
Martiiniendo602: thats google question .. or ubuntuforums.org04:17
endo602do i have to do anything else to make it work04:18
MartiiniseaLne: doesnt it say if it misses dependencies when you compile04:18
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DaSkreech:-D04:19
seaLneno its nothing obvious04:19
DaSkreechGnewsense is releasing a KDE version04:19
seaLnecool04:19
endo602DaSkreech, do i have to check google?04:19
endo602or when i restart the system will it work04:19
DaSkreechendo602: does it work now?04:19
sinbad33_anyone know how well automatix works in kubuntu ??04:20
seaLneunfortunatly my scroll back has now lost the error as i just tried again04:20
stdin!automatix04:20
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:20
DaSkreechsinbad33_: it has kubuntu support04:20
stdinsinbad33_: read ^^^04:20
DaSkreechsinbad33_: Easyubuntu is probably better04:20
stdindon't use either04:20
DaSkreechendo602: If it doens't work now then it's probably not going to work when you reboot04:21
Martiini!WorksForMe04:22
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:22
Martiiniheh04:22
Martiinimakes sense04:22
endo602next question04:22
endo602when i bind a folder04:23
endo602will it bind subfolders too?04:23
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DaSkreechbind?04:23
stdinendo602: yep, the directory and everything in it04:23
stdinendo602: (that isn't a mountpoint)04:23
DaSkreechstdin: What bind?04:23
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endo602do i have to bind it everytime i change something or is it constatnly updating04:24
stdinDaSkreech: it's a function of mount, you can "bind" a directory to more than one place04:24
DaSkreechInteresting04:24
DaSkreech so it turns up multiple times in the FHS?04:24
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stdinendo602: it updated automatically04:24
endo602cool04:25
stdinDaSkreech: exactly04:25
endo602can i bind to more than one place?04:25
DaSkreechstdin: can I put different permissions on different bind/mount points?04:25
Martiinidoes it make sense .. that dev/hda1 mounts but hda7 doesnt .. when both have same fstab lines04:26
endo602for example: --bind /media/hdd1 /home/user/1 and /share/204:26
stdinDaSkreech: hmm, don't think so, but I'm not sure. I think it takes the permissions from the parent04:26
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DaSkreechMartiini: Possibly04:27
stdinusage: mount -o bind /media/hda3 /home/me/music04:27
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endo602-o ?04:28
stdin-o = options04:28
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stdin"man mount" or "man:/mount" in konqi for more on mount :)04:29
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ctquclWhen I use the kate,I use a plugin to autospell the word,my question is how can I insert the word from autospell by keyboard only?04:30
endo602just a little confused04:30
stdinyou mean use the right click menu from the keyboard ?04:30
ctquclno, left click04:31
stdinleft click? no clue04:31
ctquclthe autospell give me the choose,I want to choose It by keyboard04:32
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stdinyeah, I get the choices with right click04:32
endo602ok04:32
endo602from trial and error04:33
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endo602i figure you have to bind all subdirs04:33
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ctquclo04:33
stdinonly if the subdors are mount points04:33
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endo602?04:33
endo602they arent04:33
endo602but its not working any other way04:33
endo602only parent is working04:34
ingerasusal04:34
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stdinendo602: eg: I have another system on a partition hda3, and I have files I want in /media/hda3/home/me/my-things, so I do "mount -o bind /media/hda3/home/me/my-things /home/me/mythings" and all the subdirs are now in ~/mythings now04:35
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endo602 ok cool04:36
endo602technical question04:36
endo602if you you modify ~/mythings will it modify on the other partition/?04:37
sinbad33_stdin, thx i'll steer clear of automatix for now :)04:37
endo602if you bind this /media/hda3/home/me/my-things to another location can they both modify it?04:38
stdinendo602: yes, it's as if it was mounted at ~/mythings04:38
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stdinendo602: yes, again04:38
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endo602for somereason it is not working for me04:38
endo602i did that and placed it into ~/hdd104:38
endo602and didnt show up at other binds04:39
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stdinendo602: It happens when I do it here, I just bound it to another dir and it shows the content04:40
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endo602aha04:41
doudoohello all04:41
endo602well right now most is working04:41
mika__hi all04:41
ctd_hi04:41
endo602i just have get it all straight04:41
doudoocould somebody help me with two issues?04:41
endo602stdin04:41
endo602can i pm04:41
endo602?04:41
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DaSkreech!ask04:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:42
doudoooki04:42
doudoofirst04:42
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ctquclo enter key04:42
doudooi feel that my laptop is booting really slow04:42
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doudooand i think it's slowing down while checking network connection04:43
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DaSkreechHow slow is it booting?04:43
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gdiebeldoudoo: using NetworkManager?04:43
doudoo2min04:43
sinbad33_case o teh slowy lapbooty bluesss04:43
doudoowith a core 2 duo04:43
doudoo2GHz04:43
doudoo:)04:43
DaSkreechAnd which Kubuntu are you using?04:43
doudooedgy04:43
gdiebeldoudoo: I have the same speed processor on my laptop. takes ~40 secs for full boot04:44
Pensacolahow to get a truly transparent konsole?04:44
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doudooon the image bar progress in boot04:45
doudooit's stop after the forth bar04:45
doudoofor a while and then restart quiet quick04:45
ctd_Guys , what is the process to change the default browser ?04:45
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devilsadvocatePensacola, i dont this that is possible without something like xgl / compiz04:46
gdiebeldoudoo: using NetworkManager? or using proprietary video? which wireless chipset?04:46
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Pensacolaok thx04:46
doudooyes i'm using network manager and latest nvidia driver for my quadro nvs and my wireless chip is a intel 3945abg04:47
mineur[studying] ctd_: kde menu, system settings, default application, browser04:47
doudoosorry i'm not using network manager04:47
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doudoobut wlassistant04:47
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gdiebeldoodou: post your dmesg to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:49
ctd_thanks Mineur.04:49
doodougdiebel : can I PM you ?04:49
mineur[studying] no problem04:49
gdiebeldoodou: go ahead04:49
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doodou/info04:52
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doodougdiebel : dont you see my pm?04:53
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ValmarkoI whish I could find a program like DVDshrink or DVD Decrypter :)04:55
Authoritywhat is the kubuntu laptop power manager program called?04:55
ValmarkoPerhaps using emulation ?04:56
MinatakuValmarko: libdvdcss04:56
MinatakuOr something like that04:56
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ValmarkoOk but... if I wish to copy a movie to HD... what program should I use ?04:57
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mineur[studying] do the colors of your nicks in this window have a special meaning?04:57
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mineur[studying] using Konversation bw :)04:58
mineur[studying] btw04:58
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stdinno, konversation just uses them to look pretty :P04:58
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stdinand you can turn it off04:58
Authoritymineur[studying] : helps you differentiate between speakers04:58
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MinatakuValmarko: I'm assuming you're making your legal backup copy provided for you via fair use laws? :304:59
mineur[studying] ok, I was wondering.... :) because I didn't see any significant difference lol04:59
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mineur[studying] nah it's ok, it can stay this way, but if it has any real use... I'd like to know :)04:59
ValmarkoI would like to run a movie from Hard disk, for example. Is there a program that can make a copy of a encrypted movie ?05:00
mineur[studying] ripdvd05:00
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mineur[studying] or dvdrip not sure05:01
mineur[studying] hang on lol05:01
MinatakuI know there are I just don't know of any05:01
Minatakulol05:01
mineur[studying] dvdrip :)05:01
MinatakuWhy rip it to the HDD anyway?05:01
MinatakuYou've got it on the DVD just watch it from that and save 3 or 4GB05:01
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ValmarkoUmm... sometimes it's useful05:01
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stdinor VLC05:02
mineur[studying] copying borrowed and rented movies eh :p05:02
stdinor dd could work :P05:02
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ctd_How to read/modify the region code on the DVD drive ?05:02
Valmarkolol05:02
Valmarkoregionset05:02
Minatakuctd_: Don't bother, leave it at 1 and use libdvdcss05:02
MinatakuYou're only allowed so many changes via HW anyway05:02
cloakable:p05:02
ctd_How to get libdvdcss ?05:03
MinatakuHey, interoperability (as of this moment, anyway) is provisioned in the DMCA05:03
MinatakuIf they won't let it work on Linux, we're allowed to make it work05:03
mineur[studying] mostly 5 changes, but some drivers allow you to flash them... then you can change it again for 5 times.... but just leave it at 1 :)05:03
Valmarkois there a way to unpack rpm files ?05:03
stdin!rpm05:04
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)05:04
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mineur[studying] !urpmi05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about urpmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
mineur[studying] !urpme05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about urpme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
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mineur[studying] hmm ok not then :)05:04
ctd_libdvdcss ?05:04
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Valmarkoalien... but it's dangerous... better nor try05:04
Minataku!libdvdcss05:04
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:04
mineur[studying] why you want to unpack rpm's in the first place???05:05
stdinValmarko: you can use alien to make a tar.gz of the rpm, then unpack that05:05
MinatakuI say ignore any scary legal warnings, more than likely if they've targeted you by now you're already screwed anyway05:05
Valmarkook. tnks05:05
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MinatakuSince according to my house rep I oppose DRM and anti-fair use for no reason other than I'm a lousy theif05:06
Valmarkoctd_, get libdvdread3 and then : sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh     if you have version 6.1005:06
mineur[studying] ctd_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats here is all the info for dvd, mp3 and any other restricted format you might want05:06
dopewhat's the difference between port forwarding and port triggering05:06
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mineur[studying] port triggering is just an on and off switch for port forwarding05:07
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mineur[studying] you trigger a certain port... and this event will cause another port to open05:07
dopehmm05:08
ctd_Valmarko , where do I get libdvdread3 ?05:08
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mineur[studying] ctd_: check the link I gave you05:08
stdin!info libdvdread305:08
ubotulibdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB05:08
Valmarkosudo apt-get install libdvdread3. Enable Universe if necessary. Backports too05:09
mineur[studying] brb05:09
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ctd_thanks folks. lemme try this.05:09
sinbad33_anyone know if Firestarter firewall is any good ??05:09
Minatakumineur[studying] : He wants it done the Windows way, it seems, "Don't give me directions just give me what I want"05:09
Valmarkobahh... guarddog is the one05:09
mothyhey does anyone use beryl with kubuntu?05:09
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Valmarkowhy beryl. kde is already an eye-candy :)05:10
mothyehh05:10
Valmarko;)05:10
MinatakuIf my eyes had teeth, KDE would make them all scummy and plaquey05:10
MinatakuStill better than Vista05:11
mineur[studying] Minataku: seems so, I wonder why I'm doing all the googling for someone else... think I'm gonna ask fees for it :p05:11
MinatakuWhich would immediately rot them right out05:11
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mothyi can't get beryl to work with the multiple desktop thingy in the toolbar05:11
mothythe windows dont span over it correctly05:11
Valmarkowell, kde is better loojing then gnome. My opinion, ...05:11
mothyworks fine in gnome05:11
MinatakuGNOME is a festering pile of crap that nobody should ever use in any circumstance05:11
MinatakuIMO, anyway05:12
ctd_libdvdread3 is already the newest version.05:12
ctd_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:12
DaSkreechctd_: Apt-get it05:12
mothywow thats nice05:12
mothythis channel rulz05:12
Valmarkoctd_, get libdvdread3 and then : sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh     if you have version 6.1005:12
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arrautzahi05:12
mineur[studying] ctd_: dude, play dvd's follow these steps..... one click further then the previous link I gave you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs05:13
ctd_so do you mean I just run sudo apt-get or something05:13
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ctd_ok ok , i will RTFM05:13
Minatakuctd_: Since you already have libdvdread305:13
arrautzawhere & how can i get/install wine?05:13
Minatakusudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh05:13
Minataku!wine05:13
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:13
mineur[studying] it's not even the manual.... it's copy/paste 2 commands and you're done :)05:13
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sinbad33_can anyone recommend a cd/dvd burning program for use with kubuntu ??05:14
Minatakuk3b05:14
ctd_:) thx05:14
mineur[studying] k3b05:14
Minataku!k3b | sinbad33_05:14
ubotusinbad33_: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto05:14
MinatakuNot that you should be USING GNOME05:14
Minataku;305:14
sinbad33_ohh goody thx MinMin05:14
MinatakuXD05:14
ValmarkoMinataku, great jog ! :)05:14
mineur[studying] seems that everyone agrees on k3b :)05:14
Valmarkojob05:14
MinatakuValmarko: And I'm a Gentoo user, not a Kubuntu user05:14
Minatakulol05:14
DaSkreechcdrdao :)05:14
MinatakuI just came in here because a friend tipped me off to someone who had free stuff to give away XD05:15
ValmarkoThat's why you're soo fast05:15
arrautzathnk05:15
MinatakuMyself, I use cdrecord to burn CD/DVDs, or rather soon it's FOSS replacement05:15
mineur[studying] I don't have enough patience to compile my stuff :d05:15
MinatakuSince the original cdrecord dev came down with a case of acute assholism05:16
mineur[studying] lol05:16
sinbad33_  ..,~~c=;305:16
Valmarkoneither I. Even if I wanted...05:16
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MinatakuSure it's his right to close up his code and make it non-free... but then it's OUR right to flip him off, tell him to go to hell then fork his code from the last free version and carry on without him :D05:17
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sinbad33_Min, right on!05:17
Minataku:305:17
sinbad33_Min speaks *big* troof05:18
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sinbad33_trooth05:18
jontecis there anyway to have dpkg catch if the kubuntu-desktop package is removed and abort installation?05:18
jontecinstallation/removal of whatever is causing that...05:18
sinbad33_Minataku, do u use a firewall with kubuntu yet ?05:19
Minatakujontec: Got a case of retard dependencies?05:19
Minatakusinbad33_: I use a hardware firewall05:19
MinatakuNamely, a very tight-assed router05:19
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sinbad33_ahh ok which software fw wud u recommend ?05:20
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MinatakuPersonally, I wouldn't recommend a software firewall05:20
bifihi05:20
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MinatakuAs for actually answering the question, I can't05:20
jontecMinataku: well I have a friend who did it... and I just about did it (but I always examine the details of the dpkg part from in adept), it'd just be really nice :D so yeah, retard dependencies05:20
arrautzawhich is the official repository of wine??05:20
MinatakuSince I've never used a software firewall05:20
Minatakulol05:20
bifican i ask you a question?05:21
Minatakusinbad33_: I'd say wait around for someone else to be able to answer XD05:21
DaSkreecharrautza: It's on thier site wine HQ05:21
MinatakuOr I can try this05:21
Minataku!firewall05:21
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:21
MinatakuThere ya go!05:21
arrautzathe link you gve gives me only the unofficial05:21
ctd_!info05:21
ubotuinfo: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB05:21
jontec!ask | bifi05:21
ubotubifi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:21
Minatakulol05:21
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arrautzathnk05:21
bifiehm i instaled the latest nvidia driver and tried to run call of duty 1.the game crashes and i get a opengl error05:22
bifiwhat can i do?05:22
Minatakusinbad33_: I'd suggest getting a cheap thrift-store computer and making it into an OpenBSD firewall but that's a bit advanced05:22
Minataku(Even for myself)05:22
MinatakuXD05:22
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fdovingMinataku: lots of 'hardware' firewalls are small linux/bsd firewalls. there is no reason a 'hardware' firewall would be better than a 'software' one.. it simply just occupies less space. :)05:22
elias_how to get the best GL performance for games like gltron assuming I have AIGLX with nvidia on EDGY?05:23
Minatakufdoving: Ah, well I do speak from an intranet perspective05:23
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MinatakuI have multiple systems hooked up via my router05:23
ctd_Any software that can ignore read errors on scratched DVDs ?05:23
MinatakuSo a hardware firewall via the router just makes sense05:23
bifii wanna know if there is a way to update/optimize opengl05:23
ctd_!xresprobe05:23
ubotuxresprobe: X Resolution Probe. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.24 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 96 kB05:24
Minataku!opengl05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:24
MinatakuWhat?!05:24
bifi:/05:24
MinatakuBad bot, no cookie05:24
Minataku!nvidia05:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:24
MinatakuHm, that doesn't help...05:24
Minataku!gl05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
Minataku!glx05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
MinatakuBah05:25
bifii thought opengl will be instaled when i intsal the latets driver but call of duty still crashes05:25
fdoving!fishing05:25
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:25
Minatakubifi: What's the specific error?05:25
bificould not load open gl subsystem05:25
bifior something05:25
MinatakuI'm not abusing the bot, I'm trying to see if it has any information05:25
Minatakubifi: Try to run "glxgears"05:25
MinatakuTell me what that does05:25
bifihowto?05:26
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Minatakubifi: Open a terminal and type glxgears then hit enter05:26
bifiok ;)05:26
bifihave to go to my linux mashine and try it05:27
bifibrb05:27
stefandoes someone know what I have to add website conf that I have another charset as utf805:27
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stefanwhat i have to add05:27
stefanI find only thing for whole server but I need it foe one website05:27
stefancan someone help?05:28
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ctd_Thanks everyone , now I can play European and US DVDs both without changing the region code. KUTGW05:28
ctd_Bye05:28
mineur[studying] finally read the manual eh :p05:29
elias_ubotu: found this: By default Composite is turned on and this will prevent OpenGL from working.05:29
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blue|palmHelp with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x6405:29
elias_ubotu: do you know, is there any way to run aiglx beryl effects without compositing on?05:29
dopeyou know what would cause a major increase in linux users?05:29
stefan!addcharset05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about addcharset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
sinbad33_wat??05:29
blue|palmgames on linux05:29
dopebetter support for high end games05:29
blue|palmhehe05:30
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dope:)05:30
endo602how does binding work with disk space?05:30
sinbad33_!mad increase in linux users05:30
dopeworks pretty good05:30
endo602:)05:30
bifiMinataku may i can comeback later?(about 2 hours) i wanna instal kubuntu on this pc05:30
endo602keeps saying my drive is full05:30
blue|palmHelp with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x6405:30
sinbad33_ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)  <<--  ??05:30
endo602but it isnt05:30
endo602how does it work exactly05:30
Minatakubifi: Sure05:30
bifiok05:30
bifiwell i dl the iso file(hope 6.06 is tha latest version) and come back after intaling05:31
blue|palm6.10 latest05:31
endo602dope, how does the disk space work with binding05:32
bifiinstal n update blah05:32
bifi:)05:32
dopeno idea what binding is, sorry05:32
endo602the bindined drive doesnt get the bits of info right?05:32
blue|palmsomebody Help with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x6405:32
endo602just the source05:32
boriedo u have an asus wl-107G wifi card, & do u use WPA ? i can't manage to connect with WPA with knetworkmanager or wpasupplicant...05:32
dopesudo apt-get install windowsxp05:32
endo602:)05:32
boriemy AP is WPA (TKIP + AES)05:32
dopei'm actually on xp right now but shhhh don't let anyone know05:32
fdovingendo602: the bound device will report exactly the same as teh source of the bind.05:32
endo602ouch05:33
endo602that is no good05:33
endo602it will take up disc space then05:33
blue|palmim on xp.... coz i cant get kubuntu to boot :(05:33
fdovingendo602: no it won't.05:33
endo602its saying that it does05:33
endo602keeps on saying diskspace full05:33
dopeblue|palm: why can't you get it to boot?05:34
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dopeoh amd6405:34
endo602how do i move files to a different device?05:35
dopei'd say just go with the 32 bit one05:35
dopethat's what i did05:35
blue|palmit installs succesfully... but when you remove the live cd and try to boot from disk then nothing happens05:35
sinbad33_rock rock rocK  this channel   r o c k s05:35
endo602i mounted the device05:35
blue|palmoh05:35
blue|palmand that worked :)05:35
endo602and when i move the mount05:35
endo602seems to be filling up the source drive05:35
dopenothing happens? the bootloader doesn't come up?05:35
blue|palmno, grub pops up and gives me the correct options, but when i select kubuntu then nothing happens05:35
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dopescreen is just black?05:36
fdovingendo602: example: i make /bind and /boot/bind, then i bind /bind to /boot/bind. df -ah shows that /boot/bind has the same free space as /bind05:36
blue|palmwell a blue "KUBUNTU" pops up and then nothing happens :(05:36
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blue|palmive left it for a looong time05:36
dopetry reinstalling05:36
dopeor install the 32 bit one05:36
blue|palmtried that05:36
blue|palmoh ok05:36
endo602this is weird05:36
blue|palmWhat does happen is that it goes to the shell05:36
dopei just stuck with the 32bit one cause people said it'd cause less trouble with compatible apps05:37
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endo602see i mounted my hdd205:37
blue|palmBusybox05:37
endo602and then bound hdd2 to hdd1/205:37
endo602now hdd1 says its full05:37
blue|palmand it says "cant access tty; jobcontrol turned off"05:37
endo602but all the information is on hdd205:37
dopenever seen that05:37
dopetry the 32bit one :)05:37
blue|palmill try the 32 bit one05:37
blue|palmis it better to dload ubuntu and then install kde? or go kubuntu?05:38
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endo602fdoving05:39
endo602you get that?05:39
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blue|palmwhats the general opinion on kubuntu vs openSUSE?05:40
fdovingendo602: hmm.. what's the command you use to bind?05:40
endo602mount --bind05:40
fdovingendo602: strange. works for me.05:40
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parsekIs it still ok to install the old kubuntu 5.10, i have an odd video problem with these newer ones and i cant figure it out, worked fine with 5.10, so is there any reason i should not istall 5.10??05:42
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blue|palmis it better to dload ubuntu and then install kde? or go kubuntu?05:43
Lynoureblue|palm: If you know you want KDE, Kubuntu leaves you with less things you do not need or want05:43
blue|palmim not sure to be honest05:43
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parsekis there any reason "why" i should not...05:44
Lynoureblue|palm: Not sure that you want KDE or not sure of what I said?05:44
blue|palmnot sure if i want to use kde05:44
blue|palmive never used it seriously before...05:44
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Jucatois there a way I can add or make a new Paper Size to the choices in kprinter? or... how do I print with a custom paper size?05:45
dopeit's fairly simple and straight forward05:45
Lynoureblue|palm: Then get ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop   or the other way around05:45
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blue|palmoh... i didnt know that you can go the otherway round...05:45
Lynoureblue|palm: you can get gnome for kubuntu too, it's not like you are bound for life :)05:45
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blue|palmlol, thanks :)05:45
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Lynoureblue|palm: You use a Palm device, by any chance?05:46
blue|palmno, why?05:46
parsekIs there any reason why I shouldnt install the 5.10 version???? (with 6.06 or 6.10 i have a video bug, what i cant work out)05:46
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fdovingparsek: 5.10 will reach end-of-life (end of support and security updates) in few months.05:46
Lynoureblue|palm: Just guessing based on the nick.05:46
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blue|palmoh... theres a really funny reason for the nick :)05:46
blue|palmbut it has nothing to do with palm tops at all05:47
Lynoureblue|palm: :)05:47
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blue|palmI never saw it like that...05:47
blue|palmIs adapt an update utility?05:47
blue|palmfor the os itself as well?05:47
cloakableblue|palm: you mean adept?05:48
Lynoureblue|palm: yes and no, but if you prefer the commandline tools, those are mostly fine too.05:48
blue|palmthanks05:48
Jucatoadept_updater, adept_notifier, adept_installer, adept_manager05:48
parsekIs there any way to first intall 5.10 and then upgrade to 6.10 or 6.06 and still keep the old video driver stuff??? (xorg.conf anf all those kinds of things)05:48
parsek*and05:49
Lynoureblue|palm: at least from dapper to edgy, it was not good for upgrading to edgy and one had to use commandline tools for that. Maybe this has changed in Edgy05:49
kjdisAnyone know of any quirks when installing nvidia binary drivers on Kubuntu?  I have done this on Debian, and I also did it back on Kubuntu 5.10, but on this fresh install I just can't get them to install, I am using the module assistant05:49
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kjdis"nvidia" is never available in the list of drivers for X, and if I modprobe -v nvidia, I get "error installing", however I can directly insmod it, and the kernel messages show it's installed, I don't get it05:50
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manu_hi everybody05:51
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blue|palmthanks everyone, cya05:51
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manu_i just wanted to know with which tool i can make easily backups, some time ago i used rdiff-backup and saved whole partitions, but i only want to save important files like the "look and feel" (kde) and own installed programs (with aptitude and without apt)05:53
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manu_i dont have so many space for saving everytime some gig for partitions^^05:53
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fdovingmanu_: have you tried 'keep' ?05:54
fdoving!away > hawai`i05:54
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Pensacolawhat folder does kubuntu read it's screensavers from?05:57
manu_fdoving: no but i have seen it in the menu, do you know whre i can find a detailed howto in german?05:58
peder_hail hitler05:59
fdovingmanu_: not sure about german.. i'll check.05:59
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fdovingpeder_: not fun, behave please.05:59
peder_okey sorry05:59
PensacolaI have a binary for a cool screensaver but no idea where to put it :s06:01
manu_thx fdoving :)06:01
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peder_cant you read an english manual?06:06
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hattaenglish comes with a manual?06:06
Dr_willisPensacola,  a binary? from where?06:07
PensacolaI compiled it :)06:07
Pensacolabut now I don't know where to put it06:07
n0nehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/    - what is this?06:07
n0ne!savage06:08
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about savage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:08
fdovingmanu_: can't find a manual even in english.06:09
n0nehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ pls help06:09
manu_peder_: i can read english but i fell saver in english ;)06:09
manu_*feel06:09
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fdovingn0ne: what are you trying to do when you get this error?06:10
n0nei'm trying to play Savage06:10
manu_fdoving: another question i get an GPG error while updateing with apt-get....what could be wrong, i think last update was a week ago (had to do much)06:10
fdovingmanu_: are you using 3rd party repositories?06:11
n0nefdoving, have any ideas?06:11
manu_fdoving: only wine ones, and they are for ubuntu, i show you the line06:11
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fdovingn0ne: no, i don't even know what Savage is.06:12
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manu_W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprft werden weil der zugehrige ffentliche Schlssel nicht zur Verfgung steht: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE26306:12
manu_W: Sie mchten vielleicht apt-get update aufrufen, um diese Probleme zu lsen06:12
n0ne<fdoving>, it's a game06:12
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manu_its in german, but perhaps you know it because of the syntax of the sentences06:12
manu_^^06:12
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andreaswhi06:12
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fdovingmanu_: that's the problem then. you didn't import the gpg key used to signe the wine archive packages.06:13
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manu_fdoving: but i made also updates without any error (i think, its some days ago)06:13
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manu_fdoving: how to solve the problem? and where can i read something about GPG....enlish link deasnt matter06:14
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fdovingmanu_: i'd go back to the site where you found the wine repository, they probably have a hotwo to add the key to your key-ring.06:14
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n0nei'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ <- pls help me :)06:15
manu_fdoving: thx i'll look for it06:15
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manu_another little question on german ubuntu site (ubuntuusers.de) they wrote about  2 big bugs in openoffice (word doc files) and acrobat reader plugin for firefox, do you know something about it?06:16
fdovingsorry, i don't use firefox, nor do i use openoffice much.06:17
Tm_TKpdf <306:17
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fdovingkpdf with the poppler patches is.. not very good at printing.06:17
Tm_TDunno, don't have printer here atm.06:18
mineur[studying] openoffice crashes when you click on an image or something... I think I read that somewhere.... but on my laptop here I don't use openoffice that much06:18
mineur[studying] so never tried it :)06:19
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mineur[studying] hmm I'm not studying anymore :)06:19
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parsekCan anybody tell me how can i get the toolbars back, i took them somehow off (fullscreen mode?) and i dont know what button to press to get them back???06:20
parsekKPDF06:20
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n0nehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/06:21
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parsekheh, i forgot to say that, so in kpdf06:21
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mineurparsek: ctrl + m06:21
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fdovingor ctrl+shift+f06:22
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fdoving(that is to exit fullscreen mode).06:22
parsekTHX, ctrl+ m worked, then i just exited the fulscreen mode06:22
mineurbtw it's a kde feature to hide the menubar :)06:22
mineuryou can do that in any app :)06:22
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parsekgood to know06:23
n0nei'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ <- pls help me :)06:23
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mineurI'm off for dinner06:23
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Dr_willisn0ne,  you are trying to run it as root when you are logged in as user or somthing. i am guessing06:24
n0ne<Dr_willis> yea, running as a root in kde06:24
Dr_willisn0ne,  thats your problem then.06:24
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n0ne<Dr_willis> why? maybe u'll explain me?06:25
ValmarkoI've just installed alien but I dont know if I'm using it correctly. Well, the program made a deb package and I installed the application with no errors. the problem is : the system cant open it. The little icon rotates, rotates and... nothing06:25
Dr_williswell #1 - why would you run a game as root.. #2 - the root user dosent have permission to access the desktop (is why its not working)06:25
fdovingn0ne: by default only the user running the graphical environment is allowed to connect to it (start applications).06:25
Dr_willisn0ne,  thats what kdesu, or sux, or some other tools are used for.06:25
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fdovingn0ne: you can also give root permission to connect to the graphical environment, if you really want to run the game as root, tip 4 at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FrodeDoeving/Tips06:26
n0neu mean i have to run it not as a root?06:27
Dr_williswhy would you want to run it as root...06:27
Dr_willisunless you need it as a server...06:27
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Dr_willisi installed savage in my users home dir. its a nifty little game.. gets a little annoying at times.06:28
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n0nethx, i'll try it now06:28
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andreasw!rm06:28
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:28
BluesKajhey gents , i installed nicotine , but it won't launch unless i use the cd to file cmd and./nicotine to launch ...what am I missing in the install?06:29
andreasw!real media06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
ValmarkoDoes the command alien require some special parameter before the rpm file ?06:29
andreaswI have installed w32codecs but amarok can't stream real media files any idea?06:29
BluesKaj!realplayer06:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:29
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Valmarkomaybe libxine-extracodecs ?06:30
andreaswAlready installed + w32codecs06:30
andreaswyour pages only say the same06:30
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BluesKajmaybe opening and config amarok ?06:31
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andreaswand where should I config real media in amarok?06:32
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andreaswIt normally should play everything I have a codec for06:33
kjdisHas anyone used the "Debian" method with module assistant to install nvidia drivers?06:33
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ValmarkoPerhaps some conflict with other plugin already installed. Firefox couldnt run mozzila-mplayer because there was already totem-gstreamer. I had to uninstall it to activate mozilla-mplayer06:34
fdovingBluesKaj:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods06:35
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ValmarkoDoes the command alien require some special parameter before the rpm file ?06:35
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BluesKajthx fdoving , but Iwas trying to help andreasw...not a realplayer fan , even in windows :)06:36
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n0nehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ now i have this error with Savage :(06:36
andreaswValmarko: install fakeroot and put that in front of the command06:36
guillaumehi all06:37
manu_fdoving: which email client do you use?06:37
manu_hi guillaume06:37
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Valmarko? like... alien fakeroot ?06:37
guillaumehttp://www.xnxx.com/06:37
andreaswBluesKaj: well some websites require realplayer so it's not a question if you are a fan or not ^^06:37
guillaumeenjoy yourself06:37
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andreaswValmarko: fakeroot alien foo.rpm06:37
n0nei'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ <- pls help me :)06:37
Valmarkook. tnks andreasw06:37
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azertyd06:38
BluesKajwell, mplayer plugin takes care of those sites for me , fdoving :)06:38
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fdovingmanu_: i use mailody.06:38
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manu_fdoving: dont know it whats your opinion about kmail (kubuntu) and thunderbird?06:39
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fdovingmanu_: i like kmail better than tunderbird.06:39
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fdovingmanu_: but i'm not sure you do, you'll have to test them both to find out which of them you like best :)06:40
manu_fdoving: i used on kanotix thunderbird and liked it, kmail is allready installed and i would use it but i want to add more emails in one account06:40
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Hawai`iive installed kubuntu and i installed proftpd to share files with friends, but my logs are filling up with trouble makers and i was wondering if theres any way to block the ip06:40
malik_hi......i am having crashes with firefox which i downloaded from ubuntu repos....i am using kubuntu edgy .....does any one have any suggestions or any one have same problem?06:41
n0nei'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ <- pls help me :)06:41
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fdovingmanu_: you can add more identities in kmail too. (and in mailody)06:42
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malik_hi......i am having crashes with firefox which i downloaded from ubuntu repos....i am using kubuntu edgy .....does any one have any suggestions or any one have same problem?06:43
Xeran0ne: you need to install your graphics card drivers06:43
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n0ne<Xera> thx06:43
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Xerajust do a google search for "<name of your card> ubuntu"06:44
manu_fdoving: afaik you can add to one identity in thunderbird more email adresses have i to change to another identity in kmail?06:44
Xerasomeone will have made a tutorial, i bet ;p06:44
fdovingmanu_: you can add one pop3/imap account, and multiple identities / e-mail addresses, yes.06:45
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fdovingbbl food.06:45
malik_is there any work around for yahoo to accessed by via pop by Kmail?06:45
manu_thx fdoving06:48
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FedeRciohola06:49
Valmarkoalien 'tranlated' a rpm file to deb package. I used fakeroot. The application is installed but doesnt run. Mybe some apps from rpm packages dont run in debian systems ?06:49
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andreaswValmarko: yes that can happen06:51
andreaswValmarko: for example java.rpm from sun won't work if you install it with alien06:52
Martiinimy atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?06:52
ValmarkoI was soo happy because i found dvdshrink for linux... I guess I'll have to use wine06:52
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andreaswValmarko: I thought DVDschrink is only available for windows06:53
freshburncould some one afford me some newb help plz06:53
freshburnconcerning adept sources and BREAK(isntall) messages06:54
freshburnive been googling for 3 days now and im getting nowhere, i run kubuntu edgy06:54
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ValmarkoI found a portuguese site with the package. http://contribware.caixamagica.pt/repository/contribution.2005-11-20.610670600606:55
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Martiinifreshburn:  shoot .. I'll do my best06:56
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Martiinifreshburn: Have you broken your kubuntu?06:56
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freshburni installed edgy from live cd added universe and multiverse repos and a fouple that a website suggested06:56
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freshburni allowed adept to update like 90 packages overnight and now no matter which package i "Request install" adept tells me BREAK(install)06:57
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freshburnis that the dangers of adding strange repos? should i just stick to universe and multiverse and the default repos?06:57
freshburnthe ones the website suggested were something free non-free but im not exactly sure as ive booted back to Xp for now06:58
freshburnmy wireless BCM9430 is not working either for now06:58
freshburnbut thats a differet issue06:59
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kkosmohi somone i type cfdisk in kubuntu and i get06:59
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Martiinidpkg -i --force-..... is used for forcing installing packages into broken system06:59
kkosmofatal eroer cant open disk drive06:59
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Martiinifreshburn: apt-get -f install works after you've used dpkg to force packages which dont install07:00
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longbeanfreshburn: if you go adding non-standard repos then this is a risk you face i think, yeah07:00
freshburnto be honest i noticed when i tried to install gnome-games packages and it said break which made me wonder WTF would a game break in my system but now every package i request install says that07:01
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kkosmowhen i type cfdisk in linux i get07:02
kkosmo FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive07:02
kkosmo Press any key to exit cfdisk07:02
kkosmo what i need to do07:02
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freshburnso could someone give me the like repo safe lecture or something? use only defaults? are universe and multiverse safe? does it make a difference if i run edgy? what the heck are the differences i.e. what does universe and multiverse even mean?07:02
freshburnsomeone suggested to never use adept and try synaptic instead07:03
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longbeanfreshburn: synaptic'll probably give you a more informative error message, at any rate...07:03
manchickenfreshburn: Adept is fine.07:03
manchickenI use it all the time.07:03
manchickenNo problems.07:03
Martiinifreshburn: www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  ... ubuntuforums.org .. etc .. I'll find u a page to use for fixing your broken system07:04
Jucatomanchicken: "no problems" really? :P07:04
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manchickenJucato: Not when I'm using it.  Only when I'm hacking it ;)07:04
Jucatolol :)07:04
freshburnso by adding the universe and multiverse repos i was ok but when i added the one that said contains some comm. software (it was realplayer and opera and something else) i let it d/l something that stops me from installing packages?07:04
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Jucatomanchicken: the reason why you're hacking it then... :P07:05
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kkosmohi somone can help me with my problem07:05
kkosmo?07:05
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Jucato!someone07:05
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:05
kkosmowhen i type cfdisk i get07:05
kkosmo FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive07:05
kkosmo Press any key to exit cfdisk07:05
kkosmo what i need to do07:05
longbeanwell, multiverse repo should already contain opera and realplayer07:06
kkosmoquestion07:06
Xerakkosmo: run it as r00t07:06
jatoshey07:06
Xeralol07:06
kkosmolol07:06
jatosdoes anyone how I could recover a parition table deleted by DOS 6.22 setup?07:06
jatosnothing actually been written onto the hard disk after DOS setup got to it07:07
freshburnwhats is wierd is this is only happening on my laptop and when i changed sources.lst i changed it on my desktop too (almost identical hardware and edgy) but everything is still fine on it isntalled gnome games and a bunch of other stuff np07:07
freshburnjatos what was previously the system on HD07:08
longbeanfreshburn: did you actually try to install an app from an unofficial repo?07:09
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jatosa mix of XP and ubuntu, XP on the first 20gb hardisk, I had another logical partition,l and after that a SWAP and reiserFS partition belonging to DOS07:09
freshburnno all i did was add them to the sources.lst and adept updated like 90 packages but it reported 90 pckgs to be updated before i changed sources.lst too07:09
jatos*not dos, Ubuntu07:09
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freshburnno new installs tho only updated packages07:10
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freshburnjatos use a win98 boot disk get a dos prmpt and FDISK /mbr07:10
freshburnshould take care of ya07:11
Martiinifreshburn:  you can look at this shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems07:11
jatoscheers07:11
freshburnget bootdisk from bootdisks.com07:11
freshburnor boot-disk.com or something07:11
jatosI can get hold of the boot disks easily enough...07:11
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Martiinimy atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?07:11
freshburnty martiini07:11
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freshburnso is there issues where adept could have updated a package from another repo that is "ahead of its time" and the other required packages for it arent up to edgy versions yet?07:12
Martiiniapparently faisty doesnt install and breaks your system (Ive heard) .. I got it to work eventually07:14
jatosjust to check, will fdisk be able to handle a abnormal partition layout?07:14
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longbeanfreshburn: more likely it's an out-of-date repo that expects packages which are now obsolete07:14
freshburnit always was ok when i dualbooted win/Os/207:14
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longbeanfreshburn: it really does sound like a dependency problem07:15
freshburnwhats faisty?07:15
Minatakujatos: Abnormal as in weird or abnormal as in corrupted?07:15
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Pensacolawhen I try to sudo mount -o loop scenery_D1.iso /media/iso it says mount: Not a directory07:15
freshburnits wierd that every package i request install (i randomly clicked on a bunch of them) and they all reported BREAK07:15
MinatakuDOS FDISK is a total piece of crap07:15
Lynourefreshburn: feisty is the upcoming ubuntu release07:15
MinatakuI highly recommend never using it for any actual use07:16
freshburnah07:16
MinatakuSince all DOS FDISK can do is make DOS partitions and delete everything07:16
Martiinifreshburn:  so .. do you wanna spend a few hours fixing your system .. or yu wanna do freshs install07:16
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freshburni installed edgy hoping that my wireless in laptop would "just work" but since it doesnt anyway should i run 6.06 instead of 6.1007:17
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jatosI wanna fix my system, I have important data on it!07:17
freshburnat this point all i have on the system is basically the fresh isntall still lol07:17
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longbeanfreshburn: try this at the command-line "apt-get check". that should give better info than what adept has given you07:18
mineur[fencing] jatos: and backing up that data and then do a fresh install?07:18
freshburnwell plus an overnight let adept update shit over dialup session07:18
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Martiiniany case ..   u can "dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/PACKAGE-NAME" for PACKAGE-NAME  and then "apt-get -f install"07:18
jatoseasier said than done for me...07:18
kjdisThere is this annoyance I keep running into, with the Display Settings dialog in 6.10, when you try to go into Admin Mode sometimes the prompt for password never appears, anyone else have this?07:18
mineur[fencing] kjdis: I've had it too07:18
Minatakujatos: Provided only the partiton table was affected07:18
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Martiinimy atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?07:19
freshburnit happened to me once i clicked in the "taskbar" and minimized the window, typed in password then brought the settings back maximized07:19
MinatakuYou could attempt to use a rescue CD with a copy of... uh, some tool that looks for partition boundaries07:19
mineur[fencing] anyway, I'm of for training07:19
Minataku!gparted07:19
ubotugparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php07:19
MinatakuThat's not it07:19
MinatakuHm07:19
mineur[fencing] qtparted then? :p07:19
kjdismineur[fencing] : man it's really pissing me off, restart of X doesn't clear it, I've been rebooting actually, and I have been running this box for only about a week and had it happen many times as I've been playing with the settings a lot07:19
Martiiniuhh .. it was nice and quiet here during the day .. but as soon as USA wakes up ..07:20
kjdismineur[fencing] : I must admit it's pretty sad, the kind of annoyances you expect in Windows07:20
jatosI got qtparted on, but how can I recover my old partitions with it07:20
Minatakugpart07:20
Minataku!gpart07:20
ubotugpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB07:20
Minatakujatos: No, don't touch the HDD at all07:21
jatoskk07:21
MinatakuGet a LiveCD or something that has gpart on it07:21
MinatakuThen run that and pray07:21
mineur[fencing] kjdis: : I know, but it seemed to have fixed itself here, or I did something, but I would have no clue what...07:21
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BluesKajkjdis, ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '07:21
mineur[fencing] anyway now I'm really of for training07:22
kjdisBluesKaj: how will that fix it?07:22
MinatakuIf you're lucky and/or there was no overwriting of anything other than just the partition table, gpart should save your ass07:22
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Minatakuhttp://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/ << gpart homepage07:23
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BluesKajkjdis, it will take you thru the X setup menu and help fix what's wrong07:23
jatosI fairly certain is just the partition table07:24
freshburnmanchicken will i not have this kind of problems that a newb like me cant handle if i run dapper instead of edgy?07:24
jatosthere a possible upto too gig of data into the hard disk may have been overwritten, but thats not where anything important it07:24
jatos*is07:24
MinatakuAs long as none of the partition boundaries were overwritten you should still be in good shape07:25
freshburnbrb all switching kubuntu to try a few suggestions ty so far07:26
manchickenfreshburn: Edgy works just fine.07:26
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freshburnok what was the command for a better error message from adept than just BREAK(install)07:33
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longbeanapt-get check07:33
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longbeansorry, sudo apt-get check07:34
freshburnmost packages will let me request install now but gnome-games still says BREAK(isntall) the gnome-games-data is installed tho07:34
freshburnwhat in a game could break my system?07:34
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kkosmosomeone what the name of the file that manage the mount points07:34
kkosmo?07:34
ZaggynlDoes anyone know if there is a frontend for trickle? Or if there is an on-the-fly bandwidth shaper?07:35
longbeankkosmo: /etc/fstab07:35
N6REJ"/etc/fstab"07:35
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fdovingZaggynl: what do you want to use it for?07:36
longbeanfreshburn: maybe try installing gnome-games from the command line? sudo apt-get install gnome-games07:36
Zaggynlfdoving, on the fly bandwith shaping07:36
Zaggynltrickle comes close, but I have to CLI it for every app07:36
freshburncommand line reports BREAK also07:36
fdovingZaggynl: for all traffic on the device, or single connections?07:36
freshburncheck reports07:36
freshburnReading package lists... Done07:36
freshburnBuilding dependency tree07:36
freshburnReading state information... Done07:36
Zaggynlfdoving, per application07:36
fdoving!paste | freshburn07:36
ubotufreshburn: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)07:36
Zaggynlso, yes, single connections07:36
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fdovingZaggynl: ok. then i don't have any good suggestions. I use 'wondershaper' for my dsl connection.07:37
ZaggynlAh okay, thanks07:37
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N6REJfdoving: nice pipe... didn't know you could do that.07:37
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K-RyanHi guys07:38
N6REJK-Ryan: did you get your them installed?07:38
freshburnfdoving: how do you know i cant type that fast? j/k07:38
K-RyanThe themes?07:38
K-RyanYeah it was screwy but I did07:38
fdovingN6REJ: you can also use redirect (to msg) !fact > nick07:38
fdovingfreshburn: voodoo magic :)07:38
N6REJfdoving: sweet! I'll remember that.07:39
N6REJK-Ryan: good.  Kubuntu has a wonderful help manual if you open Konqueror07:39
longbeanfreshburn: was there a line prefaced with "E" in the output of the apt-get command?07:40
N6REJK-Ryan: wait till you start compiling software and you find out you need a file that you weren't told about.... thats when the fun begins.07:40
K-RyanN6REJ I don't see anything about changing themes in the desktop07:40
freshburnso i am going to reinstall if i copy the updates from my desktop pc (identical setup as laptop) /var/cache/apt/archives and put them in that same directory on laptop after fresh install, will i not have to d/l them overnight (dialup) again?07:40
K-RyanErr, desktop area of the manual07:40
K-RyanOr the manual at all.07:40
freshburnwill adept find them automatically if i put them in that dir?07:40
N6REJK-Ryan: open Konqueror, do you know where that is?07:41
K-RyanYep, use it all the time07:41
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freshburnand this time i think i will just leave the default repos plus universe and multiverse,... is that completely safe?07:41
longbeanfreshburn: theoretically, yes. i'm not used to using adept, though.07:41
N6REJK-Ryan: ok, when you first open it on the bottom right is a "life preserver" see it?07:41
K-RyanYeah...07:41
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N6REJK-Ryan: thats the help file menu.07:41
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longbeanfreshburn: universe and multiverse shouldn't be any problem.07:42
N6REJK-Ryan: click on "Desktop" and it will tell you everything you could ever want to know about the desktop07:42
N6REJK-Ryan: or more accurately a "workstation" which is what you have.07:42
freshburnso whats the main restricted universe multiverse free non-free tags mean in the sources.lst file?07:42
N6REJ!repos > freshburn07:42
K-RyanI don't see anything about desktops07:42
K-RyanI'm running Dapper07:42
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K-RyanIf that changes anything07:43
longbeanfreshburn: most of the non-free stuff you're after will probably be in multiverse, anyway. that's basically its purpose07:43
N6REJK-Ryan: doesn't matter, its always been there.07:43
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freshburnooooooo... ty07:43
K-RyanHold on, I am going to show you what I see07:43
N6REJK-Ryan: k07:43
amrodisplay settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?07:43
K-RyanWait, did you want me to click the life preserver?07:43
K-RyanOr the Desktop guide before hand...07:44
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freshburnyes kryan07:44
inam!virus07:44
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:44
K-RyanBecause I've been in both and haven't seen how to change themes.07:44
N6REJK-Ryan: either, they both have good info. the desktop guide is what you want07:44
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N6REJK-Ryan: on the very bottom right do you see "an introduction to konqueror?"07:44
K-RyanYes07:45
N6REJK-Ryan: ok, that will tell you all about Konqueror... now.. hang on.07:45
K-RyanI know about Konqueror07:45
inam!free07:45
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing07:45
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Martiinimy atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?07:46
N6REJK-Ryan: ok.07:47
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N6REJK-Ryan: read this, see if that helps you some.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2438007:48
freshburnso is there a way to tell adept to try installing an older version of package gnome-games that possibly wont BREAK anything?07:49
inam!drm07:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
K-RyanN6REJ, you did hear me say "I found out how to do it" right?07:49
inamhuh ! :-o07:49
N6REJK-Ryan: ok, the point I was trying to make is there is a TON of info, if you use the wiki's, the doc, the help07:50
K-RyanKMenu>System Settings>Apearance07:50
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K-RyanNow if someone had told me that, it would of been much much easier.07:50
N6REJK-Ryan: if you use those sources and THEN come here nobody will ever yell at you again.07:50
N6REJK-Ryan: I did last night.07:50
K-RyanI couldn't find it in the sources.07:50
N6REJ:P07:51
Martiinifreshburn:  .. I told you an hour ago .. you can do things like that with dpkg07:51
K-RyanYou said something close to it I think, ah no matter.07:51
longbeanfreshburn: find the package that gnome-games wants but isn't getting. it should tell you when you try to install it. "gnome-games depends on xxxxx, but...."07:51
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freshburnitself is the one that says BREAK the main one07:52
N6REJK-Ryan: yeah, people generally can't give you a step-by-step click here guide.  The reason is is virtually every one of us has a slightly different look/feel/smell/install whatever.  Programs I have that make my life easy you may hate and not use.  And visa/versa07:52
N6REJK-Ryan: so the best you can hope for is a general try this... or, look over here.07:52
amrodisplay settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?07:53
K-RyanBut it was a theme change, which should be the same for all of Kubuntu users running Dapper07:53
K-RyanIt's not a big deal though, I figured it out07:53
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longbeanfreshburn: could you try the apt-get install gnome-games again and paste the actual error message to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please?07:54
freshburnyup07:54
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N6REJK-Ryan: sure, but the problem was, and its something your going to HAVE to learn to overcome if you want to succeed at *nix, is that EVERYONE expects you've made a reasonable effort to solve this yourself, and when you said you were'nt going to read the resources given, that made folks angry.  For example, in my case I was in the middle of working on tax configuration in quasar.  I've got over 1048 tax codes to enter.  So both me and my07:55
N6REJwife were hard at it.  I was on my WindBlows client and she was on KDE, I had to interrupt her to find out the exact sequence because I just do it, and don't even think about what it is that I'm doing anymore.  So two people, plus everyone here, had to stop to give more guidance then SHOULD have been necessary.... We were all noob's once, and we had to learn this basic fact.07:55
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N6REJK-Ryan: also realise that for example, I'm running edgy workstation at this moment, but my wife uses edgy server.  Two VERY different animals.  Most of the time "I" work in a konsole enviorment NOT a qui07:56
K-RyanI have no problem using resources or even trying by myself, but I figured that was a quick little thing someone could of typed in.07:57
K-RyanAnd it seemed like it was...07:57
N6REJK-Ryan: yep, they could've.... it was the point, not the problem.  Do you understand?  There are LOTS of situations that are super simple once you know how, but you MUST try.  Especially with harder things.07:58
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K-RyanI did try!07:58
K-RyanI was looking through every configure menu I knew about07:58
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freshburnthis is first time i tried to use pastebins and it is yelling at me that i am spamming and to enable javascripts07:59
N6REJK-Ryan: nm.... if you understand what I'm trying to tell you it will help you enourmously.  I finally felt sorry for you and interrupted my work to answer your question, but most folks will NOT do that.07:59
K-RyanThen thank you, let's stop arguing =P07:59
N6REJK-Ryan: yep07:59
freshburnbut in konqueror i have java and javascripts enabled globally08:00
N6REJK-Ryan: so do you need help today or just visiting?08:00
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K-RyanI was waiting for someone to ask that =)08:00
K-RyanNo today I'm okay so far08:00
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N6REJK-Ryan: ok, just as an FYI, you have to say, THIS widget is broken and here's what I've done to try to figure it out... thats the proticol08:00
N6REJbad spelling08:01
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longbeanfreshburn: i can't explain that. i've got it open right now with no issues08:01
malik_does any one know any easdy way to configure kmail for yahoo pop access08:01
freshburnfor syntax i chose bash i think thats right i was in a shell08:01
K-RyanIt's ok, I get what you meant.08:01
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N6REJmalik_: unless yahoo has changed certain yahoo accounts don't do pop.  Check yahoo first.08:01
amrodisplay settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?08:01
longbeanfreshburn: maybe text. it's not code you're pasting08:02
freshburnanyways apt-get says that the dependencies are not installable08:02
longbeanfreshburn: URL?08:02
freshburnoh08:02
freshburni c08:02
Gidgidonihahhello. I just installed ubuntu on my second hdd and grub isn't booting. it just boots directly into xp.  can anyone help?08:02
N6REJamro: your video card has to be configured/able to handle them too not just the monitor.  Check your display drivers/settings.08:02
K-RyanGidgidonihah, you might have to put a /boot on your first hdd08:03
K-RyanI had to and it fixed my problem08:03
N6REJ!grub | Gidgidonihah08:03
ubotuGidgidonihah: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:03
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freshburnwow the text thing was it thanks the url is 171508:03
K-RyanYou can make a GRUB floppy? I have to remember that...08:03
amroN6REJ: The resolution works under windows. the driver was automatically picked by x08:04
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malik_N6REJ: there are some linux utilities which can fetch it via pop but they are perl scxripts and i dont know how to install or work them........it says that after u install those u can configure ur mail client to send and recieve yahoo mail and even hotmail too08:04
N6REJamro: thats doesn't mean it did it right :D  X is FAR from perfect.08:04
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N6REJmalik_: is it "fetchmail" they are talking about?08:05
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Gidgidonihahi don't have a floppy drive08:05
Gidgidonihahoh wait, yes i do :)08:05
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N6REJGidgidonihah: you don't have to have one, you can use just about anything :D08:05
amroN6REJ: ill try vesa as driver08:05
freshburnmartiini: the results of dpkg are in that same shell pastebin (1715)08:05
N6REJGidgidonihah: and in this instance I seriously doubt you do.08:05
N6REJamro: what vid card?08:06
longbeanfreshburn: it's fixable. i think your sources.lst may have been borked somehow08:06
malik_N6REJ: its fetchyahoo for downloading mail and sendymail for sending it and there are alot of others on this page too08:06
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freshburnim going to paste it now because i think i got some bad advice about repos to add from a forum08:06
amroN6REJ: i91508:06
N6REJmalik_: ok, do a search in adept for one of those.08:07
N6REJamro, I think that is one of the cards that has issues.. vesa maybe your best bet.  Check the wiki08:07
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longbeanfreshburn: looks like. those packages saying "not installable" should be installable08:07
amroN6REJ: alright, thanks, restarting x to test08:07
N6REJ!hardware | amro08:08
ubotuamro: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:08
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malik_N6REJ: well fetchyahoo is in the repos but the one to send mail is not............08:08
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malik_N6REJ: i just checked it08:08
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N6REJmalik_: ok, then use fetchyahoo there will likely be a doc or a readme with it.08:08
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N6REJmalik_: sorry just reread, ok, you may have to get it from debian.08:09
GidgidonihahI forgot that i moved my floppy drive over to this computer.  Anyway.  i read the grubhowto and don't really know where to go.  All i can do is load windows or the live cd.  And I don't know how to mount my drives in the live cd08:09
N6REJmalik_: then use dpkg to install08:10
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N6REJGidgidonihah: ok, hang on I'll try to narrow it down for you.08:10
Gidgidonihahk thx08:10
freshburnpastebin 1719 is my sources.list i commented added 1-12-7 the ones i added and also i added the universe and multiverse too, also i edited it by hand so i guesss i could just be an idiot and have a typo somewhere eh?08:10
kjdisIf you install the nvidia proprietary driver, should the settings in KDE still show "nv" as the driver?  Seems wrong to me, or maybe just an unimportant bug?08:11
freshburnlongbean those same packages with an identical sources.list worked fine on my desktop just not my laptop08:11
N6REJGidgidonihah: how did you lose grub anyway?08:11
GidgidonihahIt never worked.  I had a working xp install on my sata.  I then partitioned my pata and installed kubuntu.  i then rebooted and it just booted right into xp08:12
K`zanWhat is the update managers name for edgy?08:13
N6REJGidgidonihah: thats strange.08:13
N6REJk08:13
N6REJK`zan: adept for the gui08:13
Martiinifreshburn: try dpkg -i --force-all  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-games*08:13
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K`zanN6REJ: OK, I thought there was something that pops up the icon in the system tray, will run adept.  TNX ES 73.08:14
N6REJGidgidonihah: try sudo update-grub08:14
longbeanfreshburn: i think i need to go through how updating works on kubuntu08:14
rich__hi08:14
N6REJK`zan: yeah, its a triangle... let me look08:14
ashiunowhohi08:14
longbeanfreshburn: step 1 is editing the sources.list08:14
K`zanN6REJ: rr rnx08:14
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rich__wana chat???08:14
longbeanfreshburn: adept then performs step 2 and 308:15
GidgidonihahN6REJ: No GRUB directory found08:15
N6REJ<--- is popular all of the suddent08:15
N6REJAH08:15
rich__hi08:15
N6REJk08:15
Gidgidonihahof course it doesn't look like my hdds are mounted08:15
longbeanfreshburn: step 2 is downloading the summary of available packages from the repos08:15
N6REJTHATS an issue LOL08:15
rich__hi08:15
rich__wana chat???08:16
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Gidgidonihahyeah, might be a bit of a problem08:16
longbeanfreshburn: step 3 is using those summaries to figure out what to install08:16
K-Ryanrich__ people here are not interested in personal chat.08:16
Gidgidonihahand i don't know how to mount them08:16
freshburnmartiini that unpacked and install the gnome-game-data package08:16
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N6REJGidgidonihah: check the "Changing the disk that grub is installed to " section.  No promises though, for some reason fstab didn't pickup your install.08:16
longbeanfreshburn: i'm guessing your unborked system hasn't been borked yet because you haven't updated anything yet08:16
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K`zanN6REJ: /usr/bin/adept_updater :-). tnx08:17
GidgidonihahN6REJ: well first of all i have to mount the drives, and i've yet to figure out how to do that08:18
freshburnit d/l 90 updates first night i installed kubuntu, the files are all in /var/cache/apt/archives i checked08:18
djdarkmanhy ,can anyone tell me how to set up flash to work with opera on a 64 bit machine?08:18
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N6REJ!mount | Gidgidonihah08:18
ubotuGidgidonihah: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:18
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freshburnand adept reported the next morning when i awoke that all was successful in updating08:18
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N6REJGidgidonihah: does that help?08:19
K-RyanHow would I go about removing Ubuntu and putting Kubuntu in its place?08:19
N6REJGidgidonihah: is the *nix drive the same as the windows drive?08:19
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freshburnand what the heck is unborked08:19
GidgidonihahN6REJ: no, seperate drives08:19
N6REJK-Ryan: install the KDE metapackage08:20
N6REJK-Ryan: including the KDM08:20
K-RyanBut when I have Ubuntu in, its internet won't work.08:20
N6REJGidgidonihah: ok, you need to make a "/boot" partition.  just 250M or is fine.08:20
N6REJK-Ryan: why do you say that?08:21
K-RyanBecause the ethernet port isn't recognized by the laptop08:21
N6REJK-Ryan: you can have as many display systems as you want.  Its *nix not windblows08:21
K-RyanBut in Kubuntu it is08:21
GidgidonihahN6REJ: ok, should i boot to gparted or can i do that from the live cd?08:21
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N6REJK-Ryan: thats a config issue NOT gnome/kde issue.08:21
longbeanfreshburn: something about your setup isn't letting your system download packages which should be available for download08:21
phobiacHoly crap. This is horrible.08:21
K-RyanYes but he wants KDE anyway08:21
phobiacHey K-Ryan08:22
K-RyanHey phobiac08:22
N6REJGidgidonihah: do it from the live cd... it may be a "repair"08:22
longbeanfreshburn: i'm gonna suggest removing all the unofficial repositories, running apt-get update and see if that fixes things. otherwise i'm out of ideas, sorry08:22
N6REJK-Ryan: fine, so install KDE, and after you change to KDM remove ubuntu-desktop.. .DONE08:22
phobiacOkay, I really need help. I try to login with the graphic login and the screen goes black, the mouse shows up, and then I'm knocked back to the login screen.08:22
DinkWhat package has the "file, edit" etc in konqueror or how can I get it back ?08:22
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freshburnok, ty for trying, ive bothered just about every person here08:23
K-RyanRemove it by removing it's partition?08:23
GidgidonihahN6REJ: sorry, i'm lost. how do i do it?08:23
N6REJphobiac: your video res is too high lower it08:23
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phobiacN6REJ: I didn't touch my video resolution08:23
N6REJGidgidonihah: best way is to reinstall but this time make sure you create a small boot partition.08:23
phobiacI think it's X08:23
longbeanfreshburn: wait, no, i think i've got it.08:23
N6REJphobiac: yes, it is.08:23
phobiacWait, let my copy the error over I get when I do startx on a command line only session08:23
N6REJphobiac: you could always delete your .x settings and let it rebuild.08:24
freshburnk08:24
freshburnshoot08:24
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N6REJfreshburn: BANG08:24
petr_Hello Everyone08:24
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phobiacwaiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.08:25
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phobiacThat's what I get. When I do startx I just get knocked back to command line.08:25
longbeanfreshburn: it's a silly typo :)08:25
phobiacN6REJ: How do I delete my .x settings?08:25
longbeanfreshburn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1722/08:25
N6REJphobiac: ls -la and then "rm -rf .X whatever08:26
freshburnlmfao thats why changing important shit at 3am can be a bad thiing and a second set of eyes can be a good thing08:26
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N6REJfreshburn: watch you language, this is a family channel08:26
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freshburnmy bad08:26
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longbeanfreshburn: that paste contains your sources.lst file corrected08:27
phobiacSo everything with .X in front of it has to be deleted?08:27
freshburnand its the first line so it piffed off adept when it read my repos and thats why it says BREAK on everything08:27
freshburnjust that one longbean?08:27
freshburnlol08:27
N6REJphobiac: I would08:28
longbeanfreshburn: there were several that i saw.08:28
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phobiac-rf is recursive, right?08:28
N6REJphobiac: recursive forced08:28
phobiacJust to dould check, rm -rf .X* should work?08:28
longbeanfreshburn: because the repo was entered wrongly, the packages you needed to get installed could not be found by the package manager08:28
phobiacWith the wildcard.08:28
N6REJphobiac: yep08:28
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phobiacOkay08:28
phobiacThanks08:28
N6REJphobiac: np08:29
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freshburnlike every single one,... so the trailing slash should be added to all of them? that cant be right because alot of the lines were never edited from install08:29
longbeanfreshburn: hang on08:29
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N6REJI need to bow out to restart the kernel, everyone have what they need from me for now?08:29
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phobiacShould I deleted xwinwrap?08:29
longbeanfreshburn: damn it, it's the other way round, sorry :(08:29
N6REJphobiac: dunno, don't know that program08:29
phobiacOkay08:30
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phobiacThank you so much for your help.08:30
N6REJphobiac: np.08:30
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phobiacMy live CD is with a friend and this freaked me out so much.08:30
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GidgidonihahN6REJ: don't leave me! :)08:30
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N6REJphobiac: don't worry, you can always redownload :D08:30
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N6REJGidgidonihah: ok, whats up?08:30
longbeanfreshburn: i just checked my own sources.list. trailing / is correct08:31
freshburnyeah i just looked at the one on my desktop pc, it has NO trailing slash08:31
GidgidonihahN6REJ: k creating a partition on the sata (windows drive)08:31
phobiacN6REJ: Yeah but that would make me out a computer a few days still. :(08:31
GidgidonihahN6REJ:  primary ext3 ?08:31
phobiacAnyone, moment of truth. I'll try starting X now.08:31
N6REJGidgidonihah: yes08:31
GidgidonihahN6REJ: and then label it /boot?08:31
N6REJphobiac: k08:31
N6REJGidgidonihah: yes08:31
longbeanfreshburn: so you know what you're doing now?08:31
phobiacI still get the same error08:31
freshburni think its safe to say its optional because some have it and some dont08:31
phobiacOnly now it adds to it:08:32
N6REJGidgidonihah: when you "mount it on the next screen tell it /boot" as the mount point08:32
freshburnlol no08:32
GidgidonihahN6REj: ok gonna give that a go.  Thanks so much for your help08:32
N6REJfreshburn: create a new sources list...08:32
phobiacxauth: creating new authority file  /home/admin/.Xauthority08:32
N6REJ!easysource | freshburn08:32
ubotufreshburn: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:32
N6REJphobiac: thats a good thing!08:32
phobiacYeah but doing startx again just does the same thing :(08:33
phobiacDo I need to restart the whole computer?08:33
N6REJphobiac: admin?  Do you have permission in admin to run x?08:33
phobiacadmin is my user name08:33
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N6REJphobiac: weird, k...08:33
phobiacDo I need root permission to run x?08:34
N6REJphobiac: NO08:34
N6REJphobiac: not unless something is seriously hosed08:34
K-RyanGuys I'm installing Kubuntu on my friends laptop, should I remove the Ubuntu partitions and remake them for Kubuntu?08:34
N6REJphobiac: rebuild your X config.. .something is hosed in it I think.08:34
phobiacHow would I go about doing that?08:35
N6REJK-Ryan: no, totally uncessary, just install KDE meta package08:35
N6REJ!xconfig | phobiac08:35
ubotuphobiac: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".08:35
K-RyanBut I don't want to =)08:35
K-RyanI don't want to try and configure the internet, that would be a little too much for me08:35
N6REJK-Ryan: *sigh* here we go again... do you want KDE or not?08:35
K-RyanYes, I want to install KDE from the live cd08:36
N6REJK-Ryan: ok fine, do it that way then!08:36
K-RyanI just want to know how I can remove Ubuntu from here08:36
phobiacOkay, reconfiguring08:36
DinkWhat package or changes do i need to make so konqueror has the "File, Edit" option ??08:36
K-RyanNot how, how I should08:36
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N6REJK-Ryan: you can uninstall gnome from adebt or synaptic or apt-get08:36
N6REJK-Ryan: but if your installing from live why mess with it as it will overwrite everything08:37
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K-RyanThat's the kind of thing I like to hear =)08:37
phobiacHmm okay, I've got an ATI video card but I was using the fglrx driver for it. Should I choose fglrx?08:37
phobiacAs the video card driver for X server08:38
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N6REJK-Ryan: let me make something clear.. UBUNTU isn't a desktop, its your distro of linux... its your TYPE of windows...i.e xp, 95 etc.... Gnome is your desktop, as is KDE... you can't "REMOVE" ubuntu and have a working *nix box unless you change distro's.08:38
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phobiacThanks again for your help N6REJ08:38
GidgidonihahN6REJ: hrm.  I get the error: FAT and NTFS filesystems may not be used on filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /home, /usr, /var, etc.). It is usually best to mount them somewhere under /media/.08:38
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K-RyanI wanted to remove Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu08:39
N6REJphobiac: that can be a tricky thing... check the ati info08:39
K-RyanOr in the other order, whichever way is the way to do it08:39
freshburn!backports08:39
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports08:39
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N6REJ!ati | phobiac08:39
ubotuphobiac: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:39
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sampan_hrmmm, interesting problem here.  i'm on dapper, which has been stable (uptime 144 days), but this morning i've "lost" the mouse.  can't see the pointer anywhere. unplugging and replugging in the mouse has no effect08:39
karmikazewhats the apt command if you just want to update one package? do you just do apt-get install package08:39
freshburnwouldnt that be FRONTports then?08:40
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phobiacI'd have to lynx that link and it's too much to type over into another session, I'll just pick fglrx and hope for the best. Worst that can happen is I have to start all over in configuring.08:40
phobiacThank you though08:40
N6REJGidgidonihah: that is correct.  your *nix partitions can't be NTFS or fat32 per se'.  What you want is a small /boot of ext3 for *nix to install the kernel in, and the another partition ( or more ) of ext3 for *nix itself08:40
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malik_what does integer string and boolean means in FF config?08:40
N6REJsampan_: cat ate it?08:41
GidgidonihahN6REJ: yeah that's the thing.  I just created the partitions in ext308:41
sampan_n6rej  i might have guessed that, except i only have dogs. no cats ;)08:41
N6REJkarmikaze: yes, basically that is correct.08:41
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N6REJsampan_: try doing a hard shutdown... maybe the mb is having a hard time?08:42
sampan_maybe it's a sign to finally do a clean install of edgy anyway ... been overseas and away from my home desktop for 4 months08:42
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N6REJGidgidonihah: ok, this is getting really really strange...08:42
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karmikazety08:42
Gidgidonihahlol yeah to say the least08:42
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sampan_n6rej  yeah ... i think once these ftp downloads are done, i'll back up my /home and just shutdown and do a clean install of edgy.  just thought there might be a simple way to re-initialize the mouse08:43
N6REJGidgidonihah: here's what I'd like you to try.  Create your small boot on the windows drive, then reboot and install "CLEAN", let it have the entire "new hDD" as its drive.08:43
N6REJ!mouse | sampan_08:43
ubotusampan_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto08:43
N6REJbah08:43
sampan_:X08:43
N6REJsampan_: I think the mouse is initialize at boot time in the kernel itself08:43
freshburnso does a normal user need enable backports?08:44
GidgidonihahN6REJ: i didn't quite get what you mean08:44
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mildnerhello any help for my dvb available?08:44
N6REJfreshburn: NO, enabling backports says "I know this is old software but I know what I'm doing and want to use it"08:44
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N6REJGidgidonihah: basically reinstall.  see if that helps.08:44
phobiacWhat was that command again? sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg?08:44
sampan_gotcha ... good to know.  i can live with keyboard only for a couple hours and then just backup and reinstall edgy clean.  thanks for the help :)08:45
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N6REJ!xcfg | phobiac08:45
ubotuphobiac: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:45
freshburnthat coulda been my problem all along then the forum i read about sources.list said to enable them08:45
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phobiacI just need to know if that was the command I need to use.08:45
phobiacI can't easily get to websites at the moment.08:46
GidgidonihahN6REJ: just reinstall linux you mean, or everything?08:46
N6REJfreshburn: some programs are only available in the backports, but there are risks, read the sources.list file for explaination or repos08:46
N6REJGidgidonihah: yeah, do that and see if that helps... I don't know why it didn't "take"08:46
N6REJGidgidonihah: you need a "/boot" paritition though.08:46
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GidgidonihahN6REJ: ok, that much i didn't know before08:47
GidgidonihahN6REJ: but i do now :)08:47
N6REJGidgidonihah: otherwise *nix has to live in the first 1024 sectors of the drive.08:47
Xerahow do i install gksu?08:47
N6REJgksu? is that a package name?08:47
phobiacDo you mean gksudo?08:48
Xerayes08:48
XeraE: Package gksudo has no installation candidate08:48
phobiacYou should already have it.08:48
N6REJsudo apt-cache search gksudo will tell you what package has it.08:48
Xeraoh, so i do ;P08:48
fdovingXera: package name is 'gksu'08:48
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GidgidonihahN6REJ: ok well i'm off to reboot and try things again. wish me luck08:49
phobiacN6REJ: What's the command I use to reconfigure X? sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg doesn't work?08:49
Xeradunno what installed it though, it wasn't installed yesterday08:49
phobiacThat's all I need from you08:49
dokteurping_does somebody speak french here?08:49
N6REJphobiac: scroll up LOL08:49
phobiac!french08:49
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:49
phobiacI had to restart08:49
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N6REJ!fr | dokteurping_08:49
ubotudokteurping_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:49
phobiacI lost the history08:49
dokteurping_ok08:49
N6REJok, let me reactivate my mouse... it takes naps.08:49
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phobiacThank you. That's all I need.08:50
mathieuis there a way with apt-get upgrade to know what version will be installed (of all packages)08:50
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blue|palmHelp needed with installation... Ive installed kubuntu succesfully, but I can actually boot it!!! grub loads up and i can select kubuntu which is then followed by a black screen with blue "kubuntu" writing and a blue loading bar - nothing happens here08:51
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N6REJ!xconfig | phobiac08:51
ubotuphobiac: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".08:51
phobiacThank you very much08:51
blue|palmHelp needed with installation... Ive installed kubuntu succesfully, but I cant actually boot it!!! grub loads up and i can select kubuntu which is then followed by a black screen with blue "kubuntu" writing and a blue loading bar - nothing happens here08:51
N6REJyw08:51
N6REJblue|palm: it takes a while08:51
blue|palmive waited more than 30 min08:52
blue|palmthats a looong while08:52
N6REJblue|palm: oh08:52
blue|palmany ideas? anyone?08:52
N6REJdunno, sorry08:52
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blue|palmive tried both i386 amd amd6408:52
blue|palmare there problems with SATA or SATA2 drives by any chance?08:52
dokteurpingis there a way to get grub more beautifull?08:52
blue|palmbecause I have a mixture of SATA and IDE drives... maybe they are conflicting in kubuntu or something?08:53
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blue|palmanybody know where i can get help?08:54
pavoukhello, a have problem with apt-get install, i can't install nothing because different apllication running, but I don't which (it is the same if I reboot), how can I disable that "unknown" aplication . thx08:54
dokteurpingmaybe you cna get help in the official website of kubuntu08:55
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blue|palmive checked, all there is are the forums and this channel08:55
blue|palm...08:55
bonbonthejonblue|palm: what kind of hardware are you using08:55
blue|palmAMD FX60 Dual Core Processor08:56
bonbonthejonblue|palm: how far does grub get08:56
blue|palmSATA 2 HDD (windows) + IDE (kubuntu)08:56
blue|palmit loads up fine08:56
bonbonthejonpavouk: try restarting08:56
blue|palmIve tried that08:56
blue|palmgrub works and kubuntu starts booting08:56
Daisuke_Idopavouk: check synaptic, aptitude, adept, etc08:56
bonbonthejonblue|palm: kubuntu should show what it is doing while it boots, does it?08:57
Daisuke_Idoit sounds like another client has it locked08:57
blue|palmno08:57
blue|palmit is just a black screen, with blue kubuntu text and a blue loading bar08:57
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blue|palmthe text is "Kubuntu"08:57
mathieuto answer my own question, apt-get -V does the trick08:58
bonbonthejonblue|palm: is this dapper or edgy08:58
blue|palmedgy08:58
blue|palmshould i get dapper08:58
bonbonthejonblue|palm: the booting stuff changed in edgy, but it should still work08:58
mildnerhello any help for my dvb available?08:58
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jon__how do i update java08:59
blue|palmany ideas08:59
blue|palmits just unresponsive, as if it locks up08:59
bonbonthejonblue|palm: there should be a way to view what is going on, try pushing esc or f1 while booting, it should go to text based08:59
blue|palmive tried that08:59
bonbonthejonblue|palm: does capslock still light up on the keyboard?08:59
blue|palmIve used gentoo before, and gentoo had "verbose" mode08:59
blue|palmyes08:59
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jon__how do i update java?09:00
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blue|palmive tried both amd64 and i38609:00
bonbonthejonblue|palm: are you using networking?09:00
blue|palmno09:00
mathieuand to elaborate more on my own question, adding  APT::Get::Show-Versions "true" to /etc/apt/apt.conf will also do the trick (always)09:00
blue|palmThats another problem: Does kubuntu support WPA-PSK security?09:01
bonbonthejonblue|palm: ok, I was guessing maybe it was failing on getting an address09:01
mathieuthanks ;)09:01
bonbonthejonblue|palm: yes, but it requires some work09:01
blue|palmI have disconnected my wifi card completely09:01
blue|palmand thats the only networking i have09:01
bonbonthejonblue|palm: did you have it in when you installed?09:01
blue|palmyes09:01
freshbrnok the problem was a typo in sources.list, when i added canonical i spelled commercial...commercail09:01
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freshbrnim so dumb09:01
blue|palmshould i re-install without it?09:01
freshbrnbut at least its fixed09:02
freshbrnty09:02
freshbrneveryone09:02
bonbonthejonblue|palm: if its not too hard, try reinstalling09:02
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blue|palmok, for the 7th time today :)09:02
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blue|palmthanks09:02
bonbonthejonblue|palm: hope it works09:02
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blue|palmI hope so too :) it looks like a great distro09:02
jon__how do i update java?09:02
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bonbonthejonjon__: how did you install it09:03
jon__i do not remember, someone helped me09:03
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blue|palmOne more question, whats the general opinion of openSUSE vs Kubuntu/ubuntu09:03
AdamFzjon__ : may sound a silly suggestion, but follow the instructions in the self-extracting file from Sun. Works a charm, I did it yesterday. ;)09:03
freshbrnbut i did disable the backports repos,... so what software is only avail on them so i know what i cant have09:03
bonbonthejonjon__: from a website, or using repository09:03
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bonbonthejonblue|palm: never tried openSuse09:03
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jon__i cannot do it with Adept?09:04
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blue|palmok09:04
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AdamFzjon__ : I don't think Adept has the latest one in there yet. Or I couldn't find it, it's why I went for the manual install.09:04
jon__ok, thanks09:05
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blue|palmhas anybody here tried openSUSE?09:05
Rob-Westis SuSe even free09:05
blue|palmopenSUSE is09:05
AdamFzjon__ : There are only 2 stages to it. Run the downloaded file, and then link to it from within your ~/.mozilla/plugins directory09:05
AdamFz(assuming you use firefox)09:05
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jon__ill try to figure it out09:06
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AdamFzjon__ : I can step-by-step you if it'd help09:06
jon__oh, i need java to run a java program, not in firefox09:06
AdamFzaah09:06
mildner hello any help for my dvb available?09:06
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tibbarhow can I get a quicktime plugin for firefox09:06
freshburnl8tr all09:06
AdamFzjon__ : well, the same should apply... but I've never used standalone java. So I may be of little use09:06
The_MachineI dual boot kubuntu and Windows XP, however I don't boot into XP (ever).  I do need to keep this setup in case i ignorantly crap out my linux OS for whatever unknown reason.  I use several external hard drives attached to this computer, and they are formatted with NTFS.  What is the best way to be able to read and write to the NTFS partitions on these external drives in kubuntu?09:07
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bonbonthejon!ntfs | The_Machine09:07
ubotuThe_Machine: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:07
AdamFztibbar : There is no native quicktime player for linux09:07
bonbonthejonmildner: never used dvb09:07
AdamFztibbar : mplayer can play them.. (sudo apt-get install mplayer)09:08
jon__i will have to do it when someone can step me through it who is sure it will work because i have an older version right now that i am relying on09:08
tibbarAdamFz: i'll try ty09:08
AdamFztibbar : mplayer is great for just about any format you throw at it.09:09
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cyrilleHello09:09
blue|palmThe_Machine : How did you get kubuntu and windows dual booted?09:09
tibbarAdamFz: im trying to watch a music video and I can't download it, is there a way to play it with mplayer?09:10
AdamFzAll videos can be downloaded one way or another ;)09:10
AdamFzWhat's the url?09:10
blue|palmuse bitcomet's service for video downloading09:10
tibbarhttp://www.ferretstyle.com/comeclarityvideo/09:10
The_MachineHad XP installed, installed ubuntu, changed over to kubuntu using Synaptic.09:10
blue|palmor firefox plugin09:10
blue|palmfirefox plugin is nicer09:11
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cyrilleI have a problem with my graphic boards, who can help me?09:12
bonbonthejoncyrille: ask the question09:12
soulriderThe_Machine: youre asking if you should keep windows just in case you scrrew up kubuntu ?09:12
cyrilleHEllo bonbonthejon09:13
AdamFztibbar : The video is here: http://videos.ferretstyle.net/inflames-comeclarity2.mov09:13
cyrilleI have a s3 savage409:13
The_MachineNo.  I was just getting the consensus of the best way to be able to write to NTFS partitions that are on external hard drives.  I realize now that mentioning the dual boot part is pretty unnecessary..  i mentioned it because i don't want to crap out that NTFS partition though.09:13
AdamFzI'll leave it to your imagination on how to save it.09:13
The_Machine:)09:13
soulridercyrille: what computer do you have, isnt it really old?09:13
cyrilleNo09:13
tibbarAdamFz: ty how did you get that?09:13
soulriderahh The_Machine i get it now09:13
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cyrilleAthlon 1666Mhz with 292Mo RAM09:14
AdamFztibbar : My mplayer plugin for firefox shows where the source files are09:14
bonbonthejoncyrille: what is the problem09:14
cyrilleI cannot benefit from acceleration 3d09:14
soulriderthats a good comp, is it an on board card ?09:14
AdamFztibbar : Well, not My plugin, I should say "the" plugin.09:14
soulridercyrille: i suggets searching in http://ubuntuforums.org theres tons of helo there09:15
cyrilleok09:15
soulridermaybe someone had a problem like yours, solved it and posted09:15
The_Machinei have been using captive NTFS..  do people think that 3g is better?09:15
soulriderThe_Machine: i have allways used 3g09:15
The_Machinehmm09:15
soulrideri never heard about captive09:15
The_Machineany issues?09:16
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soulrider3g is great!09:16
The_Machine:)09:16
soulriderworks like charm, at leats for me09:16
The_Machinek09:16
The_Machinecritical data at all?09:16
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tibbarAdamFz: where do I get the mplayer plugin? or does it come automatic with the instalation09:16
The_Machineor everything is disposal?09:16
soulriderwell, i dont suggest writing something critical on an NTFS partition09:16
The_Machinei guess critical is relative..09:17
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The_Machine"I'd really rather not lose this data at all"09:17
The_Machinetype critical09:17
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The_Machinenot like "i lose money if this gets deleted"09:17
AdamFztibbar : I think it comes with mplayer, can't remember now.09:17
The_Machineor "I have no more pictures of my family because of this"09:17
soulriderThe_Machine: thes09:17
soulrideri have09:17
The_Machinek09:17
tibbarAdamFz: ok thanks09:17
soulriderbut what i tried doing was slowly switch to ext309:17
soulrideraltohugh on my 120gb drive its kinda hard09:18
The_Machine:)09:18
The_Machinewords.09:18
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soulriderext3 is much better09:18
soulriderill be right back09:19
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dracoheya09:19
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phobiacK-Ryan: You still here?09:20
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K-RyanYup09:20
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soulrider!ext309:20
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org09:20
phobiacYou want to set up sauerbraten still? I managed to get it working for me.09:20
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K-RyanI got it working09:21
K-RyanBut I didn't set my fglfx thing completely right09:21
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K-Ryanso my screen is really screwed up09:21
K-Ryanthe sync is off because I dont know what it should of been09:21
phobiacWhat's your monitor's dimensions?09:22
tom-123lu09:22
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K-RyanDon't know09:22
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phobiacYou should be able to find the right sync on google.09:23
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phobiacMaybe with the monitor's model?09:23
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K-RyanDunno what model my monitor is either =)09:23
K-RyanWindows can tell me if I really want09:23
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phobiacOkay09:23
soulrideruhm, is it me or the ext3 fs isnt too good? =/09:23
K-RyanBut I'm content with mahjongg at the moment09:23
K-RyanPlus I finally got frozen bubble!09:23
Daisuke_Idowhat's wrong with ext3?09:24
phobiacWoo, was a repository not enabled or something?09:24
tom-123who is frence09:24
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K-RyanI was looking in add/remove programs09:24
soulrideri was just reading on wikipedia09:24
K-RyanDidn't know Adept and Adept Installer were different09:24
soulriderand it doesnt seem to have many features09:24
phobiacAhhh okay09:24
soulriderbut im p[robably wrong09:24
Daisuke_Idoit's just ext2 with basic journalling09:24
Daisuke_Idonothing inherently *bad* about it, but there are better ones out there, i'm sure09:25
dracojak jest partycja wymiany ???09:25
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Tm_Tdraco: polski?09:25
soulrider!pl09:25
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:25
dracotak poslki09:26
phobiacAhh, there. Everything back to normal. For some reason my firefox settings got messed with.09:26
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Daisuke_Idoi'm still looking for a web development package on par with dreamweaver09:28
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Daisuke_Idonvu's nice09:28
hattavim is pretty sweet09:30
bonbonthejonnano all the way09:32
HymnToLifekate :)09:32
bonbonthejonHymnToLife: well, if you work with a GUI, then yes kate is best09:33
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K-RyanAnyone else have trouble opening Frozen Bubble? I've tried opening it 3 times now.09:37
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K-RyanIt loads, nothing opens, and the load thing disapears.09:37
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dokteurpingdoes anyone knows if there is a way to get blender in french?09:39
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miguelhi!09:42
phobiacHi09:42
dracohi09:43
miguelany one speak spanish?09:44
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phobiac!spanish09:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:44
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juanoanyone help me with audicious? theres no volume when playing a cd! thanks09:44
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MementoMorihi all09:45
grubsgonewildhi mentos09:45
grubsgonewildthe fresh maker09:45
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phobiacHey09:45
grubsgonewildbububu09:46
bonbonthejonhi09:46
phobiacHello09:46
bonbonthejonanyone know much about svn09:46
grubsgonewildcrack is wack09:46
bubu1ukok, here's the problem. by mistake erased file. any chance to recover it?09:46
juanoanyone help me with audicious? theres no volume when playing a cd! thanks09:46
phobiacbubu1uk: Check the trash?09:46
bubu1ukphobiac: did it in console. rm file09:46
phobiacbonbon: What's your problem?09:46
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bonbonthejonphobiac: i want to delete a repository09:47
grubsgonewildbonbonthejon, why what did it ever do to you?09:47
phobiacbonbon: You mean one in sources.list?09:47
bubu1ukphobiac: and no, it isn't in trash.09:47
vinisterxGreetings everyone.09:47
bonbonthejonphobiac: no, a repository on my svn server09:47
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phobiacbubu1uk: Hmm, no idea. Sorry09:48
phobiacI know how to do it in windows.09:48
phobiacBut that isn't much help.09:48
phobiacbonbon: I don't know how, but I'll check google for you.09:48
bubu1ukphobiac: on win would probably know it as well. lol.09:49
bubu1ukphobiac: thanx anyway.09:49
phobiacSorry. You could search around for a file recoverer or something on google.09:49
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phobiacI can check for you too09:50
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phobiacI can't find anything about svn repo's. Maybe there's a file of them in your ~ folder.09:51
phobiacLook for any files with svn maybe.09:51
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phobiacAha, bub I may have found what you need09:52
phobiacOh wait, this is all shareware09:52
phobiachttp://www.sharewareconnection.com/titles/linux-file-recovery.htm09:52
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phobiacWell it might help anyway.09:53
sampan_well i guess the mouse disappearance was a screensaver issue -- after the screensaver came back on, voila, i have my mouse again.  odd09:54
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K-Ryan!sound09:57
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:57
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dromeranybody know what libsdl I need for FretsOnFire to work properly? (the screen hangs alot during play)09:57
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dromerhttp://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/uv/fretsonfire/09:57
Tm_Tdromer: Doesn't happen here.09:57
dromerTm_T: mhat do you mean?09:58
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Tm_Tdromer: I mean it works just fine here.09:58
dromerah ok09:58
gemidjy!openchrome09:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openchrome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
dromerI don't need a special kind of libsdl?09:58
Tm_TShouldn't.09:59
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dromerTm_T: I find it's especially when multiple key's are pressed09:59
freshburnis there a norton ghost like app for linux? or a way to make an exact clone of an install (edgy kubuntu) and put on another pc?09:59
dromerbut that's prob because this pc is kind of sloew :#09:59
dromerTm_T: pIII 800mhz 512mb GeFiorce2MX :$10:00
binks!FretsOnFire10:00
Tm_Tdromer: Smaller displaysize etc, it can be pretty heavy.10:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about FretsOnFire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
fdovingfreshburn: yes, you have some alternatives; partimage, mondorescue, systemimager are examples. I like mondo rescue.D[D[D[D[D[D[D10:00
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freshburnis there one installed by default on kubuntu edgy10:00
freshburni.e. partimage10:00
Tm_Tdromer: But admit, lots of good stuff comes from Finland. ;)10:01
dromerTm_T: it's at 640x480 (standard) and put the framerate at about 40 I think, alos but ****** on 2x (can't remember what it;s called)10:01
dromerTm_T: yeah it ROCKS \m/10:01
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fdovingfreshburn: i belive you have to install it.10:01
Tm_Tdromer: Antialiasing?!10:01
dromerhmm, yes ? :)10:01
dromersomething like that :P10:01
Tm_Tdromer: Drop it, drop it now.10:01
freshburni want to make an identical copy of my desktop and put onto my laptop do the partition sizes have to be exactly the same?10:02
dromerTm_T: drop what? :#10:02
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freshburnbetter yet i have winhex on my xp and both machine dual boot is it possible with that?10:02
Tm_Tdromer: Biggest load there is propably that AA, so put it off.10:02
dromerTm_T: completely? ok10:02
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dromerI'll see if it helps :)10:02
dromerit's on 4x standard10:03
dromermy amd1,4 1024 gf6200 likes it fine ;)10:03
Tm_Tdromer: Yup, and that can slow down my system too, even if I can play Doom 3 etc...10:03
dromerok10:03
dromerI hardly play any other games, any reccomends for that low-end system? :)10:03
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dromerTm_T: I made it as a htpc for the kitchen/living10:04
dromerbut this game rocks for that :)10:04
dromerI'd like some other cool games on it if possible10:04
Tm_Tdromer: Well, Tuxracer, SuperTux, Wesnoth... there's more.10:04
Tm_TFrozen Bubble2 !10:04
dromerhmm10:04
dromerhaha10:04
freshburndromer what game are you talking about?10:04
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dromerfreshburn: FretsOnFire \m/10:05
Tm_TBut sleep now, behave kids. ->10:05
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dromerTm_T: I'm checking to drop the antializing10:05
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dromerthnx for the tips ;)10:05
dromerlater o/10:05
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angel_my floppy not work.. :( help me please!10:09
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K-Ryan!flash10:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:10
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angel_my floppy not work10:11
juanowhy cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??10:11
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freshburnif anyone has an HP pavilion 4900 with BCM9430 wireless and made it work please talk to me10:11
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juanoin an audio cd i mean10:11
N6REJanyone know how to boot into safe mode?10:11
freshburnhold F8 lol i kidding10:12
N6REJlol10:12
juanoN6REJ: yes, end current session and from session login window select session and then gnome safemode10:12
Dasnipa`shift backspace?10:12
juanoN6REJ: then login10:12
N6REJjuano: nope, not an option, this is at boot time... somehow the power plug got pulled and its crashed.10:13
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boblenyHey, I installed Apache, but have no idea where the folder is on my computer, do you know where it would have installed?10:13
juanoN6REJ: oh, is there an option at grub??10:13
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juanomaybe10:13
hassan2ahyper_ch:  ?10:13
N6REJso I need to kill some obtuse PID thats preventing it from starting... we figured out how to start in recovery mode.10:13
N6REJbut not sure what to do from there.10:13
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freshburnrecovery mode brings you to a root shell right?10:14
N6REJjuano: yeah, I just kept missing it. I hope recovery figures things out itself.10:14
N6REJfreshburn: yes10:14
freshburnwould the kill command work? on another point whats the difference between KILL and TERM10:15
N6REJI've got a # prompt10:15
freshburnbut dont take my advice im newb10:15
freshburnbut i remember things i read10:15
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aibwhat package do I need on ubuntu for a traceroute like program10:15
N6REJaib it should be installed already10:16
aibit's not10:16
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aibat least it's not called traceroute10:16
N6REJtracert?10:16
lupine_85!traceroute10:16
K-Ryan!shockwave10:16
ubotutraceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB10:16
ubotuShockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave10:16
lupine_85:p10:16
bobleny!Bots are intellgent10:16
N6REJlol10:16
K-Ryan!wine10:16
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:16
juanoanyone knows why cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??10:16
N6REJhey bobleny10:16
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aibk got it, thanks10:16
N6REJI'm stuck in recovery and not sure what to do now.10:17
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N6REJ!recovery10:17
ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"10:17
N6REJBAH!10:17
juanoLOL10:17
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Dr_willis'broken' how technical.10:18
Dr_willis:)10:18
freshburnis anyone familiar with partimage10:18
N6REJstupid bot... I'm scared to do THAT because we just got this thing going yesterday and haven't had a chance to do a backup yet *sigh*10:18
boblenyOk, tell me your problem...10:19
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N6REJbobleny: power plug got yanked on server somehow... so when rebooting it said "can't kill PID" and gave a process, we just rebooted into recovery and restarted the server.10:20
hassan2aqui a trackmania nation ?10:20
juanoanyone knows why cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??10:20
N6REJ!es | hassan2a10:20
ubotuhassan2a: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:20
N6REJ!french10:20
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:20
N6REJbobleny: its up :D  I wish winblows fixed itself that easy >... WHEW... now I need a good backup util.10:21
hassan2a!english10:21
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat10:21
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