[12:15] <phobiac> Has anyone ever tried setting up sauerbraten
[12:15] <phobiac> ?
[12:17] <perkabalo> Hi! How do format a new hdd in kde?
[12:18] <N6REJ> !kfdisk
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kfdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <perkabalo> heh, well kfdisk isn't in my repos?
[12:21] <N6REJ> no that was wrong... click on system in the menu, then advanced on the screen that opens up
[12:21] <N6REJ> there is a disk manager there.
[12:21] <perkabalo> oh ok
[12:22] <perkabalo> thankyie
[12:23] <N6REJ> yw
[12:24] <sleepy495> how do I install/get flash9?
[12:24] <phobiac> sleepy: For firefox?
[12:25] <sleepy495> yes
[12:26] <Raven301> Does anyone know what the command is to set the apps to be the default ones?
[12:26] <phobiac> When you unzip the flash 9 tar.gz there's a readme file.
[12:26] <phobiac> Do what it says.
[12:26] <K`zan> does one need to install kde help, seem none of it has help for it?!?
[12:27] <deitarion3> My mother's digiKam install "Failed to list files in /camera" but accessing system:/camera through Konqueror works and selecting the camera directly from the digiKam "Camera" menu works too. Solution please?
[12:27] <phobiac> Raven301: If you go to system settings you can set default apps...I don't know the bash commans
[12:27] <phobiac> commands*
[12:27] <Raven301> ok thanks phobiac
[12:27] <phobiac> Np
[12:27] <sleepy495> is it better to use konquerer or firefox?
[12:28] <phobiac> sleepy: It's a matter of preference really
[12:28] <N6REJ> sleepy495: that is a personal preference.  they both have plenty of things to offer
[12:28] <unclemike> ? in konqueror i have directory tree showing on the left of the window..all it will show is a Root Folder with just home and media..how do i get it to show everything
[12:28] <N6REJ> try both
[12:28] <phobiac> deitarion: What is the issue? You cannot get the camera to work in digikam?
[12:28] <K`zan> sleepy495: Peronally I use firefox, I REALLY don't like konq :-).
[12:29] <N6REJ> unclemike: its showing what you have permission to access, use konqueror if you want to drill down.
[12:29] <N6REJ> unclemike: or konsole
[12:29] <deitarion3> phobiac: The auto-displayed-on-start photo list errors out and i can neither kill it nor fix it. (every time, she has to click OK on the error, close it, and then pick the camera specifically from the Cameras menu)
[12:29] <perkabalo> hmm when i choose to remove the partition, old empty ntfs, nothing happens, cant see any apply option or such?
[12:30] <theone> i need somebody help!
[12:30] <N6REJ> perkabalo: you have to reboot before you see changes.
[12:30] <phobiac> deitarion3: Have you tried looking on google for "digikam (model of camera here) errors"?
[12:31] <perkabalo> but right click on it and choose remove is enough?
[12:31] <theone> i wanted to know how to install 3d desktop effects like aero on my kubuntu..
[12:31] <unclemike> i can access /mnt....where i have my 1 ntfs partition and 2 fat32 partitions..but it dont show them
[12:31] <deitarion3> phobiac: considering that everything but that works *perfectly* I wasn't sure whether it was a camera-specific error.
[12:31] <phobiac> theone: Beryl might be what you want
[12:32] <phobiac> unclemike: When you mounted them were you the user that did? Or did you do "sudo mount"?
[12:33] <N6REJ> can anyone help with my /etc/hosts file please?
[12:33] <phobiac> deitarion3: I don't know enough about digikam to really help, but I'd check google to see if it's an error with the camera driver.
[12:33] <phobiac> N6REJ: What do you need?
[12:34] <K`zan> N6REJ: de wv9k what ya need Sir?
[12:34] <unclemike> i mounted them on install of the system
[12:34] <N6REJ> phobiac: I'm trying to setup an "intranet" I had it ok, until I listened to a friend, now things are foobar'd..... I have quasar and apache on the box and need to set it up so that ONLY those 2 apps can be accessed from outside, but samaba and everything else can be accessed on the lan.
[12:34] <deitarion3> phobiac: Aha! It's an Edgy-specific camera-agnostic problem. --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290205
[12:34] <phobiac> unclemike: Did you look in /media?
[12:35] <N6REJ> wv9k de N6REJ hello OM
[12:35] <phobiac> deitarion3: There's a fix?
[12:35] <K`zan> N6REJ: look into ipkungfu...  Excellent app
[12:35] <deitarion3> phobiac: The thread includes a workaround in the form of some UDEV rule changes and a script.
[12:35] <perkabalo> by the way, that's one other problem I experinced, i cant shutdown or reboot properly, my screen just turn black half through the process and my computer stays on?
[12:35] <aakarsh> how do i refresh package info in apt-get after adding to source-list
[12:35] <aakarsh> sources.list
[12:36] <phobiac> N6REJ: Hmmm, do you have a router? It might be easier to just use that to control what is accesible from outside.
[12:36] <phobiac> deitarion3: There you go then.
[12:36] <N6REJ> K`zan: here's my /etc/hosts... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1626/
[12:36] <N6REJ> phobiac: yes I do.  A wrt54G
[12:36] <phobiac> perkabalo: I have that issue too, just use the hardware off button.
[12:36] <phobiac> aakarsh: sudo apt-get update
[12:36] <N6REJ> He told me to change it from dhcp ( the server ) to static and change the servername from ubuntu to something else.
[12:37] <phobiac> N6REJ: Oh, perfect. That's the name model router I have.
[12:37] <N6REJ> K`zan: ok.
[12:37] <perkabalo> phobiac, but for rebooting?
[12:37] <unclemike> media just has cdrom.....when i installed the distro...i put my windows partition...as   /mnt/windows .... /mnt/saved1 ... /mnt/saved2.. and i can access then..just just see them in the tres in the left side of konqueror
[12:37] <N6REJ> phobiac: cool.
[12:37] <phobiac> perkabalo: Just use the same button to turn it off and on when that happens.
[12:38] <N6REJ> I need 3599 and 80 available but I don't want it "published" I don't think.
[12:38] <phobiac> N6REJ: You know how to change the router settings? If so go to them and head to "applications and gaming"
[12:38] <N6REJ> k
[12:38] <perkabalo> ok, so there is no fix? just use the shutoff button?
[12:38] <N6REJ> phobiac: ok, I'm there.
[12:38] <phobiac> unclemike: Open command line and try kdesu konqueror and use the konqueror window that opens to see if you can see them.
[12:39] <phobiac> perkabalo: Not as far as I know so far.
[12:39] <phobiac> N6REJ: Okay, give me a minute.
[12:39] <N6REJ> k
[12:39] <perkabalo> ok no sweat :)
[12:40] <phobiac> I seem unable to acess my router so I can see exactly what to do.
[12:40] <phobiac> What you need to do is put the ip of the machine in the one colum, and then the ports you need forwarded in the others..
[12:40] <phobiac> Hmm wait
[12:41] <unclemike> phobiac, samething...still shows just home and media
[12:41] <phobiac> unclemike: Maybe it's not mounting properly? I'm unsure.
[12:41] <N6REJ> phobiac: I've done that. and I put the App name as what the app is not the service name
[12:41] <Admiral_Chicago> hello all
[12:42] <N6REJ> unclemike: go to console and look there.  also check /etc/fstab to see if they are listed, if they aren't it won't show them.
[12:43] <phobiac> N6REJ: So for apache you did HTTP for example?
[12:43] <unclemike> phobiac, here's a snapshot of how everything is mounted...    http://www.geocities.com/goodoldunclemike/snapshot2.png
[12:43] <phobiac> As application
[12:43] <Shuttt> bsr tlm
[12:43] <N6REJ> no, I said "Apache" as application
[12:44] <phobiac> unclemike: They aren't mounted.
[12:44] <aakarsh> hi , could somebody help me I am trying to add http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ to my sources.list but cant seem be able to figure out what to add to apt-get
[12:44] <aakarsh> sources.list
[12:44] <N6REJ> tell aakarsh about !easysource
[12:45] <phobiac> N6REJ: For apache you need HTTP. HTTP is the protocol browsers use for transfering html and other files over the net, I don't know about quasar though.
[12:45] <aakarsh> easysource ?
[12:45] <N6REJ> !easysource
[12:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:45] <aakarsh> isnt this the format deb [server-type]  [address]  [directories]  [areas] 
[12:45] <N6REJ> yep, but you put in int /etc/apt/sources.list not in apt-get
[12:46] <N6REJ> quasar uses a client/server setup.
[12:46] <unclemike> phobiac, if there not mounted..then how did i just access the partition....going to make another snapshot so you can see what im talking about
[12:46] <aakarsh> yeah i was trying
[12:46] <aakarsh> but it only lists url
[12:46] <aakarsh> thanks for easy source looks great
[12:46] <phobiac> unclemike: The folder exists even when the partition isn't mounted sometimes.
[12:47] <N6REJ> aakarsh: yw
[12:47] <phobiac> unclemike try doing mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[12:48] <boris115> hi
[12:48] <boris115> i a til des francai
[12:48] <phobiac> !french
[12:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:48] <unclemike> phobiac, http://www.geocities.com/goodoldunclemike/snapshot3.png
[12:48] <phobiac> Wait was that franch?
[12:48] <boris115> oui
[12:48] <phobiac> Ah good
[12:49] <unclemike> the directoty tree on the left
[12:49] <N6REJ> I think I've got a loopback or something, cause its taking forever now.
[12:49] <phobiac> unclemike: What about it? You can't find mnt is what you're saying?
[12:50] <unclemike> yes....unless i use the drop down at the top
[12:50] <phobiac> unclemike: Just click the folder labeled root
[12:50] <N6REJ> man that was slow!
[12:51] <unclemike> the folder labeled root...is clicked showing just what you seen
[12:51] <phobiac> Ohhhh
[12:51] <phobiac> unclemike: do ctrl+h
[12:51] <phobiac> On konq
[12:51] <N6REJ> phobiac: now i can't get to the router :(
[12:52] <phobiac> N6REJ: That's odd. Restart it?
[12:52] <N6REJ> I'll have to manually do it.
[12:52] <phobiac> Wait no, unclemike ctrl+h won't do anything.
[12:52] <unclemike> ctrl+h is doing nothing
[12:53] <phobiac> unclemike: At the top make "view" drop down and click on "Show Hidden Files"
[12:53] <unclemike> that will show everything on the right..main window
[12:53] <phobiac> It should
[12:54] <phobiac> Isn't that what you wanted?
[12:54] <KirbyKhan> Hello, I just got a new computer and installed kubuntu on it with the help of a friend.
[12:54] <aakarsh> i added deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas all  to my sources.list and did update but still get sudo apt-get install freenx not found :(
[12:55] <KirbyKhan> Now I'm just wondering how I can connect to the internet with it using dialup.
[12:55] <Seveas> there is no freenx in edgy-seveas
[12:55] <unclemike> phobiac, i wanted everything to show in the tree at the left...like in every other distro
[12:55] <KirbyKhan> My ISP is Juno if that helps.
[12:56] <KirbyKhan> They have thier own client used to connect, but I don't think they have one for linux.
[12:56] <parsek> !camorama
[12:56] <phobiac> unclemike: Did you look in konq's settings?
[12:56] <ubotu> camorama: gnome2 tool to view, alter and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.18-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 190 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[12:56] <N6REJ_> test
[12:56] <N6REJ> ok, I'm back
[12:57] <N6REJ> i've got a loopback going on I think.
[12:57] <phobiac> That sucks
[12:57] <N6REJ> phobiac: how should /etc/hosts look?
[12:57] <phobiac> N6REJ: I honestly have no idea
[12:57] <parsek> !qt
[12:57] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[12:57] <N6REJ> ugh... k
[12:58] <phobiac> I have to restart my own computer :/ I'll brb
[12:58] <unclemike> phobiac, yes i have
[12:59] <parsek> ubotu
[12:59] <N6REJ> gonna go eat.
[12:59] <parsek> !ubotu
[12:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:00] <deitarion3> quit
[01:00] <deitarion3> oops.
[01:01] <soulrider> hi
[01:02] <parsek> soulrider what time it is out there where you live
[01:02] <soulrider> parsek: its 22:00
[01:03] <parsek> its 02 here
[01:03] <parsek> !ubugtu
[01:03] <ubotu> ubugtu is an Ubuntu Bot. Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots - Please don't play with the bot in the main channel.
[01:04] <parsek> bye
[01:08] <K-Ryan> Anyone know where I can get some good skins for my desktop?
[01:09] <soulrider> K-Ryan: try on http://kde-looks.org
[01:09] <soulrider> actually, try these
[01:09] <soulrider> ~themes K-Ryan
[01:10] <soulrider> !themes | K-Ryan
[01:10] <ubotu> K-Ryan: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:12] <K-Ryan> where should i save the theme? (where are the default ones?)
[01:15] <N6REJ> !intranet
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intranet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <N6REJ> !lan
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <N6REJ> *sigh*
[01:17] <K-Ryan> What's wrong?
[01:19] <K-Ryan> Hey where do I save this theme and how do I change to it?
[01:19] <K-Ryan> And please don't just link me to a manual.
[01:19] <sleepy495> what does sudo apt-get -f installdo?
[01:20] <amigrave> is it possible to make firefox 2 use the anti-aliasing defined in the kde font-settings ? with previous versions of kubuntu with firefox1.x it was working ok but since firefox2 it's not
[01:24] <K-Ryan> Hey where do I want to save a theme?
[01:26] <K-Ryan> !themes
[01:26] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:26] <K-Ryan> !changethemes
[01:26] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[01:26] <makuseru> how can i get bigger resolution on an ATI Radeon 7000?
[01:28] <K-Ryan> maku i'll look around for ya
[01:28] <makuseru> thanks
[01:31] <casev01> someone using apt-build?
[01:31] <casev01> im trying to use it, but it dont run
[01:31] <K-Ryan> apt-build, a terminal command?
[01:31] <casev01> yep
[01:31] <K-Ryan> you know it would be something like "sudo apt-build <application>"
[01:32] <K-Ryan> not just apt-build
[01:32] <sleepy495> what does sudo apt-get -f installdo?
[01:33] <N6REJ> anyone know why I can say "quasar" and apache responds but when I say the samething in another program it doesn't?
[01:33] <N6REJ> quasar being the alias for my lan server
[01:33] <casev01> yep, but, when i try to install something Unable to find source information for...
[01:34] <K-Ryan> no idea there, still kind of new to Linux
[01:34] <N6REJ> sleepy495: man apt-get
[01:34] <aakarsh> yeah iam tring to figure out apt-get myself
[01:34] <N6REJ> !apt
[01:34] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:35] <aakarsh> seems like order of sources.list maters
[01:35] <casev01> yep
[01:35] <aakarsh> nice how to
[01:35] <N6REJ> !repos
[01:35] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:35] <K-Ryan> Would anyone happen to know where I should save a theme, and then how to use it?
[01:35] <N6REJ> !theme
[01:35] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:36] <makuseru> how can i get bigger resolution on an ATI Radeon 7000?
[01:36] <N6REJ> !ati
[01:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:36] <N6REJ> !display
[01:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:37] <makuseru> i have the drivers
[01:37] <makuseru> and that howto dosnt help
[01:37] <jmichaelx> how would one make adjustments power management settings for one's monitor from the command line? since i upgraded my laptop to edgy, i lose X if i try to change the power-off settings in the system settings GUI
[01:38] <aakarsh>  alias acs='apt-cache search' nice tip
[01:39] <K-Ryan> Nobody knows where I should save a theme and then how I can use it?
[01:40] <fowlduck> K-Ryan: google knows all
[01:40] <K-Ryan> If I wanted to use google I wouldn't be here
[01:41] <Dasnipa`> K-Ryan, not wanting to use resources doesnt make logical sense
[01:41] <K-Ryan> Is an IRC not a resource?
[01:41] <K-Ryan> Right now I would prefer to have someone with experience and knowledge in the situation tell me what to do.
[01:41] <andreasw> In the time you discuss you could have searched ;)
[01:41] <K-Ryan> Rather than search the web fori t.
[01:41] <Dasnipa`> sounds like you need to read the asking questions faq
[01:41] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: its called 'trolling" the general expectatio in IRC is that you have made a reasonable attempt to figure it out for yourself using the resources available.
[01:42] <K-Ryan> Who's to say I can't use the channel?
[01:42] <N6REJ> netiquette
[01:42] <K-Ryan> I mean with 333 people logged in I think someone would know how to do it
[01:42] <K-Ryan> Telling me however is another story...
[01:42] <Dasnipa`> yes, but people never learn how to figure stuff out by themselves if the answer is always handed to them
[01:42] <andreasw> Anybody knows why my second network device is eth2 instead of eth1 in Kubuntu?
[01:43] <K-Ryan> Either an answer is found or given, either way the person figures it out.
[01:43] <jmichaelx> how would one make adjustments to the power management settings for one's monitor from the command line? since i upgraded my laptop to edgy, i lose X if i try to change the power-off settings in the system settings GUI (i only reposted this because my wording earlier had not been clear)
[01:43] <K-Ryan> Now if you don't mind I don't want to argue, I want to know where I should save a theme, and how to open it.
[01:43] <N6REJ> andreasw: this can be changed in /etc/network/interfaces.
[01:43] <andreasw> N6REJ: no it can't
[01:43] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: I already gave you resources for that.
[01:43] <andreasw> N6REJ: there you can configure the device but not the device name
[01:44] <N6REJ> andreasw: why is that?.... let me think about that for a second.
[01:44] <K-Ryan> That's where I can get 'em.
[01:44] <K-Ryan> I don't know what to do with it though
[01:44] <andreasw> N6REJ: in /etc/iftab you can set the devices for a specific mac address
[01:44] <N6REJ> you can do it through ifconfig
[01:45] <andreasw> N6REJ: and in that file it uses eth1 for my network device but Kubuntu has eth2 assigned to it
[01:45] <N6REJ> weird! let me check mine
[01:45] <andreasw> N6REJ: Well I don't think so you can set an alias
[01:45] <andreasw> N6REJ: but the device is normally automatically set
[01:45] <N6REJ> andreasw: yes, I agree.... thats why I'm fuzzy on this.
[01:45] <andreasw> N6REJ: but why the hell do I have eth0 and eth2 but no eth1
[01:46] <N6REJ> is one wireless?
[01:46] <andreasw> N6REJ: When I installed Kubuntu it was eth1
[01:46] <andreasw> N6REJ: yes it is
[01:46] <makuseru> does anyone know the command to configure ati radeon drivers?
[01:46] <jmichaelx> andreasw: why does it matter?
[01:46] <N6REJ> ok, this has been a while, but I THINK when using wireless it changes it.
[01:46] <andreasw> jmichaelx: Well because I hate strange things like hat
[01:47] <K-Ryan> Can someone please just tell me where to save this theme and then how I would open it up?
[01:47] <jmichaelx> lol, i can see that
[01:47] <andreasw> jmichaelx: Every other Linux distribution uses eth1 for it only ubuntu doesn't
[01:47] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: u can save it pretty much anywhere
[01:47] <K-Ryan> Where are the others?
[01:47] <K-Ryan> I'd prefer to keep it grouped
[01:47] <N6REJ> andreasw: the man for iftab suggests looking at udev
[01:48] <K-Ryan> Ah no matter, I'll just save it somewhere
[01:48] <K-Ryan> How do I use it though?
[01:48] <andreasw> jmichaelx: And look you install kubuntu configure eth1 because while installation the network card is eth1 than you boot into your newly installed system and than it is suddenly eth2 and you wonder why the network doesn't work
[01:48] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: isntead of arguin bout things like if search for help here or google, did u try to search for info in ur own system?
[01:48] <andreasw> N6REJ: well the iftab config file is read by a udev rule
[01:48] <jmichaelx> in my machines the wireless shows up as something different on every box.... i just assumed the type of card might have something to do with it
[01:48] <K-Ryan> You mean have I tried to figure this out by myself?
[01:48] <K-Ryan> Yes, I've been
[01:48] <andreasw> eth1 mac 00:01:36:0d:d3:5d arp 1
[01:48] <jmichaelx> andreasw: yeah, that is a strange thing
[01:48] <andreasw> eth2      Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:01:36:0D:D3:5D
[01:48] <N6REJ> andreasw: right, apparently the name is assigned at the kernel level.
[01:49] <andreasw> the above entry is from iftab
[01:49] <andreasw> like you see the mac address did not change
[01:49] <N6REJ> weird
[01:49] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: so what's ur problem then, cant figure it out.?
[01:49] <K-Ryan> Yep
[01:49] <K-Ryan> Don't know what to d
[01:49] <K-Ryan> *do
[01:49] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: have u tried control center >> look >>install theme?
[01:50] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: it tells u that it will get theme from anywhere u choose. ;)
[01:50] <K-Ryan> control center?
[01:50] <N6REJ> bubu1uk: he was given the wiki and doesn't want to read it.
[01:50] <K-Ryan> I didn't get a wiki
[01:50] <N6REJ> !themes
[01:50] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:50] <K-Ryan> I got sites to get themes from.
[01:50] <bubu1uk> i did it in 1 min myself. how long u tried?
[01:50] <K-Ryan> Oh, heh, missed that
[01:50] <N6REJ> read the last sentence!
[01:50] <K-Ryan> i'm running kubuntu -.-
[01:51] <N6REJ> Kubuntu=ubuntu with KDE
[01:51] <K-Ryan> Well the method of changing the theme is different.
[01:51] <bubu1uk> N6REJ: some ppl just want u to do thing for them, and then tell others, how good they'r in linux? or just bein annoyin to keep askin basic things even after 1 year after using linux.
[01:51] <andreasw> Kubuntu = (ubuntu - Gnome) + KDE ^^
[01:51] <bubu1uk> like me. lol
[01:51] <K-Ryan> Yeah I get what Kubuntu is already
[01:52] <K-Ryan> How I am to make use of this theme, I don't know!
[01:52] <K-Ryan> Can someone please just give me a straight answer here?
[01:52] <hlopes> anyone know how to install cube game?
[01:52] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: if u go to kde-look.org, with every theme u download u have 'how to' do it
[01:53] <N6REJ> "menu" - > system settings -> appearance    JEEEZ
[01:53] <K-Ryan> It says "right click and click save as"
[01:54] <N6REJ> now back to our reguarly scheduled programming
[01:54] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: and how hard is to CLICK?
[01:54] <K-Ryan> Why do I not have a "system settings"
[01:54] <K-Ryan> Click what? I know how to download it
[01:54] <N6REJ> anyone have a clue why apache would strip css off from outside the router but not via the lan?
[01:55] <K-Ryan> I'm going to go eat dinner, then I'm going to come back and hope someone can just tell me what to do
[01:55] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: have you read any of the documentation?
[01:57] <aakarsh> should it be really bad if i use dapper version of free nx
[01:57] <aakarsh> since i cant find edgy one
[01:58] <N6REJ> backports carry no guarantee's
[01:58] <mundano> anyone having problems with the adept updater icon, and Beryl? or is just me?
[01:58] <jmichaelx> how would one make adjustments to the power management settings for one's monitor from the command line?
[01:58] <aakarsh> well i will just have to wait and see
[01:59] <mundano> power managemet for monitor in Kubuntu edgy is seriously broken...
[01:59] <mundano> is allways turns to 5 hours
[01:59] <mundano> :\
[01:59] <jmichaelx> mundano: yeah, that is how my laptop is.... but not my 2 desktops that run edgy
[02:00] <mundano> strange...
[02:01] <jmichaelx> power management for monitors has never been reliable in kubuntu... i don't know if that is a KDE problem or a kubuntu problem
[02:01] <mundano> theres a bug report in launchpad
[02:01] <N6REJ> this is really weird, apache is stripping css off my site
[02:01] <jmichaelx> i have one LCD that has been damaged a little by the power-off not working
[02:01] <mundano> the problem is identified
[02:01] <mundano> long ago...
[02:01] <mundano> but no patch until now...
[02:01] <mundano> :(
[02:01] <jmichaelx> ok, well hopefully there will be an update at some point
[02:02] <mundano> maybe for feisty
[02:02] <N6REJ> I can access the css from backend of joomla but nto front.
[02:02] <N6REJ> really weird.
[02:02] <jmichaelx> ty for the info, mundano
[02:03] <jmichaelx> i was just hoping i could change something in a config file to adjust the power-off
[02:04] <mundano> jmichaelx: but there are some ugly fixes you can do yourself...
[02:04] <mundano> give me just a sec
[02:05] <jmichaelx> mundano: if they are too ugly, i think i'll leave them alone lol. i just have this problem on my laptop, and i don't use it nearly as much as i use my desktops
[02:08] <mundano> i cant find it...
[02:08] <mundano> i'm sure i have seen a solution in the foruns
[02:08] <mundano> but i cant find it anymore
[02:08] <jmichaelx> it's no biggie..... i'll wait for a patch or wait until feisty'
[02:18] <aakarsh> does any one here have experience with no machine
[02:19] <aakarsh> i am trying to connect to freenx server but it gets stuck at setting up the environment
[02:21] <fiendskull9> Hey, everytime i try to remove a default kubuntu app (i.e. - konversation), it sais its going to remove kubuntu-desktop as well...
[02:21] <root_> hihi
[02:21] <fiendskull9> is there a way to remove kopete, konversation, etc, but keep kubuntu-desktop?
[02:22] <Shaezsche> i issued the command "sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/xfce4-panel" and now when i login my panel doesnt show up. how can i set it back to what it was originally
[02:22] <Shaezsche> what was it before chmod?
[02:24] <bobleny> Hey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...
[02:27] <bobleny> !alert
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <bobleny> !error
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[02:27] <bobleny> !error 409
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[02:28] <bobleny> !bug
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[02:28] <bobleny> !error | bobleny
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[02:29] <I-04> stdin: if you remember that cehckinstall problem i had with gaim... it doesn't work after all.
[02:30] <I-04> silly adept
[02:31] <bobleny> Hey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...
[02:33] <padcom> hi all
[02:34] <padcom> does anyone knows if wlan support is to be updated in the upcomming release?
[02:34] <killermach_> I have a 1394 external drive, I have written to it previously, but kubuntu is mounting read-only and when I do "sudo mount -o remount,rw,user /media/sda1" it claims "mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only" How do I correct this in kubuntu??
[02:36] <root_> hi, can anyone tell me where to get module-assistant ?
[02:36] <root_> the ati driver howto tells me to download it
[02:36] <root_> but its no longer available
[02:37] <killermach_> when I choose "safely remove" now root cannot even mount it.. saying "/dev/sda1 is not a valid block-device" I was just automounted as sda1, what gives??
[02:39] <dwidmann> !info module-assistant | root_
[02:39] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.6 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 404 kB
[02:40] <root_> hmmmm
[02:40] <root_> but how to download it ?
[02:40] <root_> apt-get doesnt work
[02:40] <root_> it says no longer available
[02:40] <dwidmann> sudo apt-get install module-assistant. Also, be sure you have the universe repository enabled
[02:40] <piratemath> Does anybody have experiance troubleshooting prism cards? Mine connects to my network during install but for some reason won't work after
[02:40] <jerry> hi
[02:40] <dwidmann> !universe | root_
[02:40] <jerry> I have a question
[02:40] <ubotu> root_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:40] <root_> it is enabled
[02:40] <root_> :)
[02:40] <dwidmann> jerry: then ask it
[02:41] <dwidmann> root_ try apt-get updating, or switching mirrors
[02:41] <root_> ok thx
[02:41] <root_> but how to switch mirrors ?
[02:41] <root_> :)
[02:41] <piratemath> I can't be the only person in the world with a prism card. :(
[02:41] <jerry> I'm trying to setup Wake on Lan on my computer so that I can turn it on from other places but for some reason when I try to turn on my computer from a different computer this computer does not turn on.
[02:42] <dwidmann> root_ in your /etc/apt/sources.list, change the url from http://??.archive.ubuntu.com..... well, change the two letters there to something else ex: us, uk,
[02:43] <root_> thanks
[02:44] <dwidmann> jerry: I've got no idea.
[02:45] <dwidmann> piratemath: true, but I bet you could be the only one in the channel with a prism card
[02:45] <root_> is there a difference if it says "main restricted universe multiverse" or just "universe multiverse"
[02:46] <padcom> about the prism cards...
[02:46] <killermach_> n/m I'll reboot into mandriva have to figure out later if it can be fixed in ubuntu
[02:46] <padcom> I have such one on my desk, I've tried to make it work about a dozen of times and I've given up
[02:47] <padcom> I went to the store and bought something more kubuntu-friendly
[02:47] <dwidmann> root_: personally, I don't like the way the /etc/apt/sources.list looks by "default" ... I could have written it more clearly. As per things, root_, so long as you have a second line somewhere with "main restricted", having a line with just "universe multiverse" is fine.
[02:47] <root_> ok thanks again
[02:47] <dope> is it possible to mount a drive that's on another computer on the network
[02:47] <padcom> piratemath: so my advice - go and buy something that works
[02:47] <dwidmann> dope: Yes
[02:48] <dope> how i do dat
[02:48] <bubu1uk> dope: nfs
[02:48] <dwidmann> depends on the type of network
[02:48] <dope> it's a local area network
[02:48] <dope> within the area
[02:48] <dope> locally
[02:48] <padcom> dope: what's the os that "exports" the filesystem you want to mount?
[02:48] <dope> rinux
[02:49] <dwidmann> a *nix network (nfs), or a windoze network (samba)?
[02:49] <dope> both computers are rinux
[02:49] <dwidmann> rinux??
[02:49] <bubu1uk> lol
[02:49] <dope> i'm azn
[02:49] <bobleny> Hey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...
[02:50] <padcom> dope: setup an nfs server and use nfsfs to mount - to know how just read some howtos about it - there's a lot documentation leading you step-by-step
[02:50] <dwidmann> !nfs
[02:50] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:51] <dope> crap, i can't just say mount dope@192.168.1.123:/dev/hda1
[02:51] <dope> or something like that
[02:51] <padcom> dope: I'd say it's the most native way of exporting filesystems on *nixes
[02:51] <padcom> dope: almost
[02:51] <bubu1uk> dope: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy look for NFS
[02:51] <padcom> dope: but you need to have a server that gives you the mount point
[02:52] <dope> ok, it's a step in the right direction
[02:52] <padcom> dope: even on windoze you need to enable sharing to be able to do that
[02:52] <padcom> dope: btw - what's the catch with rinux?
[02:53] <dope> i can't tell you
[02:53] <bubu1uk> dope: u have to setup server. anything like that on network works on client/server basis
[02:53] <padcom> :)
[02:53] <bubu1uk> padcom: he can tell u but he'd have to kill u. :p
[02:54] <padcom> all: since I'm the new guy to the whole GUI thing (I like it though) I'd like to apologize if this question is ALAIG (as lame as it gets)
[02:54] <padcom> all: how to install hardware-accellerated drivers for Nvidia on Kubuntu?
[02:55] <chris_> can anyone tell me how to edit the /etc/apt/source.list file?
[02:55] <dwidmann> padcom: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:55] <chris_> it wont let me edit it says i dont have any premission
[02:55] <bubu1uk> padcom: u might look at ubuntuguide.org
[02:55] <dwidmann> !sudo | chris_
[02:55] <ubotu> chris_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:56] <chris_> thanks alot
[02:56] <bubu1uk> chris, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:56] <chris_> i run that in terminal?
[02:56] <bubu1uk> chris, yes
[02:56] <chris_> ok thanks
[02:56] <bubu1uk> chris, u can use any editor instead of kate
[02:57] <chris_> so i should install kate first ehh.. :)
[02:57] <bubu1uk> chris, u should have it.
[02:57] <bubu1uk> chris or try nano
[02:57] <dwidmann> !kdesu | chris
[02:57] <ubotu> chris: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:58] <chris_> kool
[02:58] <bubu1uk> dwidmann: heh, didn't know that. lol
[02:58] <padcom> bubuluk: does it work without problems or should I count on system crash after that?
[02:59] <bubu1uk> padcom: worked for me.
[02:59] <padcom> ok
[02:59] <bubu1uk> padcom: u shouldn't hav any problems
[02:59] <padcom> let's test this
[02:59] <dealer> Hello good folks! I've just reinstalled Windows, now my grub loader is gone, and I've just started ubuntu using the cd, but I have no idea how to get my old ubuntu up again, anyone can point me in the right direction ?
[02:59] <dwidmann> bubu1uk: I've run into the problem before, had me baffled for a while
[02:59] <chris_> kate:cannot connect to x server?
[02:59] <bubu1uk> chris_: try nano
[03:00] <dwidmann> chris_: are you using sudo, or kdesu?
[03:00] <bubu1uk> konsole based
[03:00] <chris_> sudo
[03:00] <bubu1uk> dwidmann: do u use kdesu in konsole as well?
[03:00] <chris_> but i'm useing gnome
[03:01] <bubu1uk> padcom: worked?
[03:01] <dwidmann> bubu1uk: I use sudo for shell apps, but I use kdesu for launching gui apps
[03:01] <bubu1uk> dwidmann: ah, ok.
[03:01] <dwidmann> bubu1uk: I've also been known to use kdesu for doing tricky things on occasion ;)
[03:02] <endo602> Can someone help me install geforce 6600 gt drivers?
[03:02] <dwidmann> endo602: for dapper: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config, for edy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:03] <endo602> thanks
[03:03] <dealer> Anyone know how I can get my old grub loader up again? I've got ubuntu and windows on same computer, but reinstalled windows, and that removed the grub loader
[03:04] <bubu1uk> dealer: try to look in ubuntuguide.org, i think there's guide for it. but not sure
[03:04] <dwidmann> dealer: I think to fix that you use the livecd, and run sudo grub-install <device>
 would then be hda ?
[03:05] <dealer> or a selected partition ?
[03:05] <dwidmann> It'll accept /dev/hda, I believe
[03:05] <dealer> I'll try then
[03:06] <chris_> what about mplayer how do i install that with apt
[03:06] <padcom> all: next problem with nvidia drivers: I've a 16:10 LCD panel and can't get the proper resolution with nvidia-glx drivers
[03:06] <padcom> all: how to fix that?
[03:06] <dealer> "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[03:06] <dwidmann> padcom, you wouldn't happen to be lucky enough to know the horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges for your monitor would you?
[03:07] <bubu1uk> padcom: also u might need to check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[03:07] <bubu1uk> padcom: i think it's there.
[03:07] <padcom> dwidmann: since it's an LCD panel those kind of information aren't given out so easly as with CRT monitors
[03:07] <dwidmann> padcom: well, I have an lcd and I found it for mine pretty easily, so it can be done.
[03:10] <dwidmann> padcom: googling for your monitors model with something like "model horizontal vertical" might find you something, that's how I found it for mine
[03:10] <endo602> hmmmm
[03:11] <padcom> dwidmann: what do I do then? RTFM?
[03:11] <endo602> dindt work
[03:11] <dwidmann> padcom: let me know when you have them, and I'll tell you what to do
[03:12] <padcom> dwidmann: isn't there a utility to set this up? I mean other than the poor System settings thing
[03:13] <dwidmann> padcom: not really, the easiest way to get the proper resolution/refresh rate is to tell X what your horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges are, and that's done with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:16] <dealer> How can I load an iso on to a diskett ?
[03:16] <dwidmann> dealer: k3b will likely do that for you
[03:17] <endo602> how do i remove an nvidia kernel?
[03:18] <dwidmann> endo602, just what are you trying to remove, exactly, and why? (If it's not broken, not much sense in trying to fix it afterall)
[03:18] <endo602> i installed bu mistake the drivers from nvidia website
[03:19] <endo602> and it installed a kernel
[03:19] <endo602> now its conflicting with the drivers you just mentioned
[03:20] <mrtaran123> hi is anyone awake now
[03:21] <mrtaran123> i have trouble compiling a driver
[03:21] <mrtaran123> dont know where the problem is, i can paste stuff
[03:22] <endo602> All i really need is change the resolution
[03:22] <endo602> how do i do that?
[03:22] <josh_> is kubuntu 7.04 stable?
[03:24] <endo602> dwidmann, how do i modify the resolution because it is not allowing me from kcontrol
[03:24] <dealer> dwidmann: I cant find how to make that iso on to a disket, only burn on cd's
[03:24] <dwidmann> oops, back
[03:24] <dwidmann> dealer: hmm, I'll look it up for you then
[03:25] <dwidmann> endo602: if kcontrol won't let you, try systemsettings ... I've actually had m ore luck with systemsettings guidance module then it tends to get credit for. Also, another place you can check is nvidia-settings
[03:26] <endo602> dwidmann,  where can i find that?
[03:26] <dwidmann> systems menu, most likely
[03:27] <padcom> all: thanks for hints anout nvidia.. it didn't work and it's getting a little late for me. I'll give it another shoot tomorrow
[03:27] <padcom> bye
[03:27] <dwidmann> later padcom
[03:27] <endo602> awesome
[03:28] <endo602> works better now
[03:29] <dealer> dwidmann: found it ;)
[03:29] <dealer> commands
[03:29] <josh_> how does kubuntu 7.04 work
[03:29] <josh_> is it any different?
[03:29] <endo602> dwidmann, know anything about setting up an ident?
[03:29] <dwidmann> dealer, I'm having trouble finding it on google, though it was just a passing glance I gave. I'd probably know if I had a floppy drive, haven't bothered with one of those for at least 5 years.
[03:30] <intelikey> how can you tell what the swappiness is set to ?
[03:30] <dwidmann> endo602, looking to register your nick?
[03:30] <intelikey> or where the default settings are ?
[03:30] <endo602> dwidmann, i am looking to set up a secure ip
[03:30] <dealer> dwidmann: dd if=sgd_0.9528_english_floppy.img of=/dev/fd0
[03:30] <endo602> so that when i log into my home ftp i can put ident in addy
[03:31] <dwidmann> dealer, good to know you found it then
[03:31] <dwidmann> endo602, no idea.
[03:31] <endo602> dwidmann this nvidia kernel is killing me
[03:31] <dwidmann> how so?
[03:32] <dwidmann> besides, don't you mean linux kernel + nvidia kernel module?
[03:32] <dealer> thanks for all help dudes! Have a good night!
[03:32] <Search4Lancer> is there an easy way to identify really large files and directories? all of a sudden I'm out of space
[03:32] <intelikey> Search4Lancer du
[03:32] <K-Ryan> How do I install Mplayer? http://atrpms.net/dist/el4/mplayer/
[03:33] <endo602> well when kubuntu loads up it kicks me to console instead of logging into x rright wway
[03:33] <intelikey> !mplayer
[03:33] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:33] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:33] <K-Ryan> Thanks intel, should of tried that...
[03:33] <Search4Lancer> intelikey: du?
[03:33] <intelikey> Search4Lancer man du
[03:33] <K-Ryan> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:33] <K-Ryan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:33] <K-Ryan> is only available from another source
[03:34] <dwidmann> !multiverse | K-Ryan
[03:34] <ubotu> K-Ryan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:34] <dwidmann> also, don't forget to update before trying to install it
[03:34] <K-Ryan> Umm, I think I enabled the repos for universe already
[03:35] <dwidmann> Not universe, multiverse
[03:35] <K-Ryan> How do I enable that?
[03:35] <K-Ryan> Haven't seen it before
[03:35] <dwidmann> universe = community maintained, multiverse = nonfree
[03:36] <K-Ryan> I'm checking that link from before, hold up.
[03:37] <soundgate> what the difference between the cd and dvd installer of kubuntu 6.10?
[03:37] <dwidmann> soundgate: the dvd installer is more flexible
[03:37] <soundgate> does it have more applications?
[03:37] <dwidmann> allows for text only install, alternate install, oem install, live install, etc
[03:37] <dwidmann> I think it has all of the "main" repository on the disk as well
[03:37] <bartist> hello
[03:38] <bartist> i have to modife modprobe.conf
[03:38] <intelikey> soundgate the default installed packages are the same  but the dvd has more on it.
[03:38] <bartist> where is that file?
[03:38] <dwidmann> bartist, /etc, I think
[03:38] <soundgate> well i try to use adept installer and try to install some games on it but there aren't any games here
[03:38] <bartist> thanx dwid, i ll check
[03:38] <K-Ryan> Hey that repository enabling thing isn't the same for me.
[03:38] <intelikey> bartist /etc/modprobe.d/  i think.
[03:39] <K-Ryan> In Adept under "Adept" there is only quit.
[03:39] <intelikey> bartist or maybe not.
[03:39] <dwidmann> bartist, then again, I think that's one of those files that the various linux distros never seemed to standardize, you won't find that file at all
[03:40] <bartist> i ve found /ETC/modprobe.d
[03:40] <intelikey> bartist what is the desired end result ?
[03:40] <K-Ryan> Neverrrr mind...
[03:40] <bartist> but there is no modprobe.conf
[03:40] <dwidmann> bartist, modprobe.d is a directory though
[03:40] <bartist> the aim? recover sound
[03:40] <mrtaran123> build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.            ...........
[03:40] <bartist> yes modprobe.d is a directory
[03:41] <dwidmann> I think for things you want to load, you can place it in /etc/modules, or create a file in /etc/modprobe.d
[03:41] <intelikey> bartist what is the desired end result of editing said file?
[03:41] <manchicken> Man, the dev channels are dead right now.
[03:41] <bartist> however, i can not find the modprobe.conf file
[03:41] <intelikey> dwidmann yeah that's what im fishing for...
[03:41] <bartist> by editing that file I want to make my sound work
[03:42] <intelikey> bartist so you are going to add  "make my sound work"  to that file ?
[03:42] <intelikey> of course not.
[03:42] <bartist> no, i am going to add ac97_quirk=0
[03:43] <bartist> but there is no such file,
[03:43] <bartist> should i create it?
[03:43] <intelikey> ok  then probably  in   /etc/modprobe.d/options
[03:43] <bartist> i ll try
[03:43] <dwidmann> bartist, as I said, /etc/modprobe.conf probably exists in other linux distros, like redhat or whatnot, but not in debian based distros.
[03:45] <Cardinal> hey guys.... so how can I get libcss from apt-get ?
[03:45] <Cardinal> it should be apt-get install libcss
[03:45] <Cardinal> but its not in any of the repositories
[03:45] <Cardinal> so I have to find one that has it
[03:45] <Cardinal> correcT?
[03:45] <bubu1uk> Cardinal: sudo apt-cache search libcss
[03:46] <intelikey> !find libcss
[03:46] <ubotu> Found: libcss-tiny-perl
[03:46] <intelikey> hmmm doesn't seem to be.
[03:46] <bartist> ok i ve modified the file
[03:46] <bartist> i'll reboot to see if it works
[03:46] <bartist> thanx
[03:46] <intelikey> bubu1uk so you don't get it with apt-get then.
[03:46] <intelikey> bartist luck.
[03:47] <bubu1uk> intelikey: well, is libcss exact name of package?
[03:47] <Xbehave> !beryl
[03:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:47] <intelikey> bubu1uk find would have auto completed it as it did for the one it found.
[03:47] <intelikey> !find kde
[03:47] <ubotu> Found: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, hwdb-client-kde, kde-core, kde-guidance (and 502 others)
[03:48] <intelikey> example ^
[03:50] <intelikey> bubu1uk what exactly are you needing libcss for ?
[03:51] <bartist> ARRRRGGGHHH !! ! ! !
[03:51] <bartist> still no sound
[03:52] <intelikey> see if nalioth is in #ubuntu
[03:53] <bartist> no nalioth ....
[03:53] <bartist> should i make a fresh install?
[03:53] <intelikey> probably wont help.   unless you did have sound and now you don't for some reason.
[03:54] <bartist> i did have sound
[03:54] <bartist> and i dont anymore
[03:54] <intelikey> bartist oh   and what changed ?
[03:54] <bartist> i have no idea
[03:54] <bartist> one day it just stopped
[03:55] <intelikey> bartist well in that case it could fix it.     do you have a seperate partition for /home ?
[03:55] <bartist> then i did sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[03:55] <bartist> followed by sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[03:55] <bartist> and it work for a day or two
[03:56] <bartist> than my sound server crashed
[03:56] <bartist> and no more sound
[03:56] <bartist> no matter what i do
[03:56] <intelikey> hmmm.
[03:56] <bartist> i've followed this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[03:56] <bartist> but nothing works!
[03:57] <bartist> i'll try to create a new user to see what happens
[03:57] <bartist> if nothing happen i am affraid i'll have to make a fresh install
[03:57] <intelikey> cat /proc/asound/cards  shows the correct hardware ?     cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp  doesn't make static ?
[03:57] <K-Ryan> !mplayer
[03:57] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:57] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:57] <mrtaran123> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1645/
[03:58] <mrtaran123> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1645/ newbie error
[03:58] <charlie5> hi folks ... is there a way to be sure that a piece of hardware works ok in linux ? ... considering getting an external usb hardrive (seagate)
[03:58] <K-Ryan> charlie, most externals are hardwired as a file system
[03:59] <K-Ryan> Fat32 is compatible with Linux
[03:59] <K-Ryan> NTFS however is treated as read only
[03:59] <intelikey> mrtaran123 install   build-essential
[03:59] <charlie5> K-Ryan: so it should just work, when i plug it in ? ... sounds great
[03:59] <K-Ryan> As long as it is Fat32 both Windows and Linux can communicate with it.
[03:59] <mrtaran123> instel:its already installed
[03:59] <K-Ryan> That's what I did with mine charlie5
[04:00] <bartist> this cat /proc/asound/cards shows correct hardware
[04:00] <intelikey> make sure you have kernel-headers installed
[04:00] <K-Ryan> I read somewhere that Ubuntu/Kubuntu can read most mass storage devices.
[04:00] <bartist> this cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp freeze my konsole
[04:00] <mrtaran123> i have them installed too
[04:00] <charlie5> K-Ryan: thanks ... are there any downsides to an external ? ... in general, are they noisy or slower, maybe ?
[04:00] <K-Ryan> Something like that, you know, cameras, externals, etc.
[04:00] <K-Ryan> They are as fast as the transport rate.
[04:00] <intelikey> mrtaran123 make a sumlink for the headers.
[04:00] <K-Ryan> I'm limited to non-USB 2.0, but it still goes pretty fast
[04:01] <K-Ryan> Mine is pretty quiet.
[04:01] <bartist> i think i'll go for a fresh install
[04:01] <bartist> everything was fine under dapper
[04:01] <charlie5> K-Ryan: as long as its quick enough to watch a movie without pausing now and then
[04:01] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, when trying to install Mplayer, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:01] <mrtaran123> intelikey? how to make a sumlink?
[04:01] <intelikey> bartist yeah.
[04:01] <K-Ryan> charlie5 I haven't tested that, but mine has served well so far.
[04:02] <K-Ryan> Do you have USB 2.0 ports?
[04:02] <K-Ryan> If you do you shouldn't have to worry about it at all.
[04:02] <Jucato> K-Ryan: is Adept open when you are trying to do this with apt-get?
[04:02] <soundgate> how do i use the dvd as a repository source in adept manager?
[04:02] <charlie5> two or three, i think ... though i have never used them
[04:02] <intelikey> mrtaran123 please check that the actual dir exists.   sudo ln -s /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386/build /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build
[04:02] <K-Ryan> Yes Jucato, I closed it now
[04:03] <K-Ryan> Now i've got another error
[04:03] <K-Ryan> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:03] <K-Ryan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:03] <K-Ryan> is only available from another source
[04:03] <K-Ryan> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[04:03] <bartist> intelikey, i hace always had all my linux data under the same partition
[04:03] <bartist> i've a 33GB hd
[04:03] <bartist> what you you think would be good partitions
[04:03] <bartist> 30GB sorry
[04:03] <Jucato> K-Ryan: is your multiverse enabled?
[04:04] <K-Ryan> I think so
[04:04] <K-Ryan> I'll check Adept for it
[04:04] <intelikey> bartist ffr if you use a system partition of about 5g and a home partition of *g you can reinstall at any time without touching your home
[04:04] <K-Ryan> But I'm pretty sure I already enabled it.
[04:05] <intelikey> bartist it comes in really handy if you have things you want to keep in /home/yourname/   else you have to save all that somewhere.
[04:06] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, well right now I'm updating..
[04:06] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 13.1/249.2 MB (5%)
[04:07] <bartist> yes but all the config files are in home
[04:07] <bartist> sometimes it is good to reset config files
[04:07] <bartist> may be i should have 5gb system + hoome
[04:07] <bartist> and *gb /storage folder
[04:07] <intelikey> bartist all that requires is rm -fr ~/.???*
[04:07] <K-Ryan> Umm, I "fetched updates" in Adept and now at the bottom it says Filtering... and nothing is happening
[04:07] <K-Ryan> Frozen?
[04:07] <K-Ryan> Or does it usually take a minute?
[04:08] <Jucato> sometimes, yes
[04:08] <intelikey> one can reset their home before or after install.   with that command.    just a thought....
[04:09] <K-Ryan> Restarting...
[04:09] <K-Ryan> Oh, maybe not..
[04:09] <K-Ryan> Yeah multiverse is good, let me try the download again now that I updated
[04:09] <intelikey> restarting what ?     this is not M$ reboot
[04:09] <K-Ryan> I was going to restart my computer =P
[04:09] <|lostbyte|> dhq_, Hi !!
[04:10] <K-Ryan> Konsole says something is using my adept stuff
[04:10] <bartist> [13:37]  <intelikey> bartist all that requires is rm -fr ~/.???*   __ what do you mean?
[04:10] <K-Ryan> But nothing is open
[04:10] <K-Ryan> Oh, found it, Adept notifier
[04:11] <intelikey> bartist you said "<bartist> yes but all the config files are in home   <bartist> sometimes it is good to reset config files "
[04:11] <bartist> i have to put rm -fr ~/.???* in konsole to reset those config files?
[04:11] <endo602> dwidmann, you still around?
[04:11] <Jucato> K-Ryan: nah, adept notifier is harmless. did you close Adept while it was still updating?
[04:11] <K-Ryan> I don't think so
[04:12] <K-Ryan> It was past 100% and that area closed
[04:12] <dwidmann> someone rang? Ah, yeah, I'm around endo602
[04:12] <endo602> dwidmann,
[04:12] <endo602> can i tell you the whole story?
[04:12] <endo602> i installed the drivers from the nvidia website
[04:12] <dwidmann> sure
[04:12] <intelikey> bartist if you keep your home and want to reset to a default state   that will do it.     but i doubt that it applies, seeing that your home is not seperate from your /   thus all in /home is lost on a reload of linux.
[04:12] <endo602> but it didnt work
[04:12] <endo602> then i installed the drivers you told me to
[04:12] <dwidmann> !envy | endo602
[04:12] <ubotu> endo602: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[04:12] <endo602> now they are conflicting
[04:13] <K-Ryan> Yeah still getting that error
[04:13] <K-Ryan> Check process list?
[04:13] <dwidmann> Yeah ... how to fix, I gave up on myself, then I just used envy to redo the ones from the nvidia site, correctly
[04:14] <bartist> well thanx for the advice
[04:14] <bartist> i ll go for a fresh install
[04:14] <bartist> see ya
[04:14] <mrtaran123> intelikey: i checked that the actual dir exists.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1647/
[04:14] <mrtaran123>  <mrtaran123> intelikey? how to make a sumlink?
[04:14] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | K-Ryan
[04:14] <ubotu> K-Ryan: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:14] <endo602> so what do you suggest?
[04:15] <intelikey> mrtaran123 i gave you the string.  ^    example; ln -s origenal link
[04:15] <mrtaran123> en
[04:15] <mrtaran123> i did it
[04:15] <K-Ryan> I'm still getting the "this package is not availible" thing
[04:15] <K-Ryan> But multiverse is enabled...
[04:15] <mrtaran123> i pasted it to the pastebin for ya
[04:16] <intelikey> mrtaran123 yeah  i see    now make sure the dir exists.   lol       here's how. ls -dl /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build
[04:17] <Jucato> K-Ryan: you might not have enabled the correct multiverse
[04:17] <K-Ryan> I'll pasttebin you my sources
[04:17] <intelikey> btw   that's checking the link you made, mrtaran123
[04:17] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[04:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:17] <elyon> Could someone please tell me how to enable higher resolutions?  I've already edited xorg.conf to include the higher res, but they aren't presented as options.
[04:18] <Jucato> elyon: you have restarted X after editing xorg.conf?
[04:18] <Jucato> !xconfig | elyon
[04:18] <ubotu> elyon: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[04:18] <mrtaran123> hmm....
[04:18] <mrtaran123> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-01-15 11:03 /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build -> /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386/build
[04:18] <mrtaran123> thats the outcome
[04:18] <elyon> Jucato: Ah... lemme try that.  Thank you.
[04:18] <intelikey> mrtaran123 ok.    now make
[04:18] <K-Ryan> Oh, hold on, how do I access my source list through kate? I can't remember the full command
[04:19] <mrtaran123>  /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory
[04:19] <mrtaran123> Makefile.inc:69: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[04:19] <mrtaran123> thats the outcome...
[04:19] <elyon> Jucato: Okay, I've restarted X, but it still only allows up to 1024x768
[04:20] <intelikey> mrtaran123 then     ls /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386/build
[04:20] <Jucato> !xconfig | elyon
[04:20] <ubotu> elyon: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[04:20] <elyon> Jucato: I've already tried that...
[04:20] <elyon> Shall I try again?
[04:20] <endo602> dwidmann, i cant find that script in adept
[04:20] <intelikey> mrtaran123 i'm still thinking you may not be pointing the link to the right place.
[04:20] <K-Ryan> !sources
[04:20] <Jucato> elyon: won't hurt :)
[04:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:20] <K-Ryan> !sourcelist
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <dwidmann> endo602: and you won't
[04:21] <Jucato> K-Ryan: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <K-Ryan> How do I open my sources in kate? I can't remember the command...
[04:21] <dwidmann> endo602: you'll have to d
[04:21] <K-Ryan> Thanks
[04:21] <dwidmann> ** click the link and downlod it
[04:21] <dwidmann> *download
[04:21] <K-Ryan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1649/
[04:22] <elyon> Jucato: Hmm... for some reason that worked ;)  I never worked in gnome, but now that I've install Kubuntu as well, its fine :)
[04:22] <Jucato> :)
[04:22] <mrtaran123> intelikey: are there any packages to let you access this computer remotely?
[04:23] <intelikey> mrtaran123 notice i wanted you to make sure the dir existed befor the link was made because i'm not sure the address is correct.  could be /usr/src/2.6.15-27-386   or  /usr/src/kernel*2.6.15-27-386
[04:23] <mrtaran123> sounds like a guessing game otherwise..
[04:23] <Jucato> K-Ryan: add the word "multiverse" to the end of this line:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:23] <K-Ryan> line number?
[04:23] <mrtaran123> intelikey: i feel bad wasting your time so much
[04:23] <K-Ryan> Or should I make it a new line? Jucato
[04:24] <endo602> dwidmann, which package?
[04:24] <mrtaran123> hmm
[04:24] <charlie5> K-Ryan: cheers for the help earlier ... decided to go ahead and get the ext harddrive ... thanks
[04:24] <Jucato> K-Ryan: just add it. no need to make a new line
[04:24] <dwidmann> endo602, the one that you get from ....
[04:24] <dwidmann> !envy
[04:24] <K-Ryan> No problem charlie5
[04:24] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[04:24] <Jucato> K-Ryan: lines 16 and 17
[04:24] <endo602> there are many ther
[04:24] <Valmarko> hi, how can I be s
[04:25] <K-Ryan> Alright, let's try again shall we?
[04:25] <Jucato> K-Ryan: yep :)
[04:25] <Valmarko> sure I have 'radeon' driver in my system?
[04:25] <intelikey> mrtaran123 yes there are. but i don't want to.   just look in /usr/src   and see what is there.  the error you are getting is because the symlink /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build   is pointing to the wrong address.     one can also  dpkg -L kernel-headers-2.6.15-27-386     and see where the correct address is.
[04:25] <elyon> Okay, so now I have another question:  How do I hide/show only KDE apps (so I don't have all the gnome equivalents visible)?  And is it possible to remove the programs that I will never use that are part of kubuntu-desktop? (Specifically, kmail, konqueror, etc)
[04:26] <endo602> how do i install it
[04:26] <K-Ryan> Yeah judging by the multitude of lines of lines passing by, I'd say it worked. Thanks Jucato!
[04:26] <Jucato> K-Ryan: no problem
[04:26] <intelikey> mrtaran123 if my time was not free,  you couldn't afford it.   so don't worry.
[04:26] <mrtaran123> en im pasting now..
[04:26] <K-Ryan> You can remove packages through Adept I think elyon
[04:26] <bobleny> Hey, You know they powersaver screensaver bug in edgy eft? Do you know a guide to fix it? I looked online but I can't find anything...
[04:27] <intelikey> what would a drowning man give to breath for one more hour.
[04:29] <intelikey> Jucato you familear with the kernel-headers  missing symlink in /lib/modules/*/   error that a lot of makefile's spit out ?
[04:29] <Jucato> intelikey: um.. nope... sorry
[04:29] <intelikey> k
[04:29] <intelikey> np
[04:31] <intelikey> i'm about 30 second from rounds, so i'll be back in an hour or so.               mrtaran123     maybe someone else can step in and help on that.  if not i'll be back.
[04:31] <T3hWiz0r1> can someone in here help me figure out why my ipod only mounts in read-only mode? its hfsplus format.
[04:31] <mrtaran123> intelikey: sorry its slow here, okay..
[04:32] <intelikey> k
[04:32] <seeb> hi everybody, is there any testdisk superuser around ?
[04:34] <seeb> or.. may be someone know a good bruterecovering software ?
[04:36] <T3hWiz0r1> does anyone know why my ipod only boots into readonly mode?
[04:36] <T3hWiz0r1> i've tried to set the permissions in fstab to allow acess to my specific user... its a 5.5gen video ipod
[04:36] <T3hWiz0r1> been searching around the ubuntu forums with little resolve.
[04:43] <shadowhywind> hay all a quick question, take for example the konsole command ifconfig | grep 'Link' .. Is there another konsole command that i could add that would ignore the line with lo
[04:44] <rmarianski> shadowhywind: you can add a '| grep -v ^lo'
[04:45] <shadowhywind> THANKS! that did it
[04:45] <rmarianski> shadowhywind: great
[04:47] <makuseru> is there a sound frequency generator in kubuntu
[04:48] <shadowhywind> one more question could i also do grep -v ^'127.0.0.1' ?
[04:48] <shadowhywind> or does the ^ have to change?
[04:48] <rmarianski> shadowhywind: the ^ just means to match the start of the line
[04:48] <rmarianski> grep -v 127.0.0.1 should work
[04:48] <shadowhywind> thanks that did it
[04:49] <shadowhywind> *hates regular expressions* hehe
[04:49] <KillerBee> is it possible to install kubuntu on reiserfs3?
[04:59] <bobleny> in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" under "section Monitor", what would happen if I commented this line out "Option "DPMS""?
[05:00] <makuseru> is there a sound frequency generator in kubuntu
[05:03] <KillerBee> damn I must say damn good job on kubuntu
[05:03] <Balsamic_Chicken> hi is there any program in ubuntu that allows me to make screen capture shots for videos that I have?
[05:03] <Balsamic_Chicken> kubuntu*
[05:03] <T3hWiz0r1> robotgeek: hey are you there?
[05:04] <T3hWiz0r1> i guess heres the question i want to propose to anyone who wants to listen: I need to know if it is possible to force linux to write to hfsplus?
[05:06] <n8k99> T3hWiz0r1: you have to turn journalling off within OS X
[05:06] <n8k99> then edit your fsck table to mount that partition
[05:07] <T3hWiz0r1> n8k99: will that require data to be formatted anyway?
[05:07] <n8k99> I do not understand your question
[05:07] <T3hWiz0r1> n8k99: will this require me to lose all data on my ipod?
[05:08] <n8k99> oh- that's a different thing
[05:08] <T3hWiz0r1> i figure i may as well back up the content on my ipod and format it over...
[05:08] <T3hWiz0r1> apparently formatting it for windows lets it work on both mac and linux too
[05:08] <T3hWiz0r1> or so i've heard
[05:09] <n8k99> I don't own an iPod so no relevant experience to offer, sorry
[05:10] <T3hWiz0r1> i thought linux could write to hfs... hmm
[05:12] <n8k99> it can - I'm just not certain how to do it with an iPod - I do it on my hard drive  share os x with kubuntu
[05:14] <bobleny> in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf", under "section Monitor", what would happen if I commented this line out "Option "DPMS""?
[05:16] <endo602> dwidmann, still having issues
[05:16] <dwidmann> Hmm, describe3
[05:17] <endo602> when i tell envy
[05:17] <endo602> to install
[05:17] <endo602> the screen goes blank for quite some time
[05:17] <endo602> just the cursor blinking
[05:18] <dwidmann> endo602, oh, I forgot about that part
[05:18] <endo602> :(
[05:19] <dwidmann> first, kill X, and log in on VT1
[05:19] <endo602> VT1?
[05:19] <endo602> how
[05:19] <dwidmann> view terminal one
[05:19] <dwidmann> or something like that
[05:19] <endo602> how do i do that?
[05:19] <dwidmann> X can be killed with ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:20] <dwidmann> it will probably send you back  to view terminal one
[05:20] <endo602> hmmm
[05:20] <endo602> ill try now
[05:20] <makuseru> is there a sound frequency generator in kubuntu
[05:22] <elyon> Could someone help me get my refresh rate over 60??  My eyes are killing me!
[05:22] <endo602> dwidmann, just brings me back to the welcome screen
[05:22] <dwidmann> okay, log back out, and in kdm, select "console login"
[05:22] <dwidmann> then run envy
[05:22] <intelikey> just dropped back in to say we have a break down, i probably wont be back tonight.   see ya tomarriey
[05:22] <dwidmann> envy can't be run while X is running
[05:23] <endo602> aha
[05:23] <endo602> ill try that
[05:23] <endo602> then i want to install the drivers correct?
[05:23] <dwidmann> yup
[05:24] <bobleny> PLS
[05:25] <plugs> mount point /media/hdb1 does not exist, how do i fix that?
[05:26] <dwidmann> plugs: sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[05:27] <plugs> yay!
[05:27] <dwidmann> elyon: will be easy, if you've got the vertical refresh and horizontal sync ranges for your monitor
[05:27] <elyon> dwidmann: I don't.
[05:27] <soulrider> plugs: do you understand why the first time it didnt work ?
[05:28] <elyon> I used to have it running at 75, but after reconfiguring xserver, it only offers 60.
[05:28] <plugs> yeah, i do. i just didnt know what to do about it
[05:28] <plugs> =] 
[05:28] <soulrider> ok
[05:28] <soulrider> just remember to give it a directory where to mount :P
[05:28] <soulrider> one that exists :P
[05:29] <dwidmann> elyon, hmm, I'm not sure why, but it usually does have something to do with what your telling xorg ... and it certainly is much easier if you know the ranges for the monitor
[05:30] <bobleny> in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf", under "section Monitor", what would happen if I commented this line out "Option "DPMS""?
[05:30] <dwidmann> bobleny: one way to find out
[05:30] <bobleny> lol
[05:30] <bobleny> Right, ask someone...
[05:31] <plugs> =\ another question, i reinstalled kubuntu and i don't remember how to add support to play .avi files, any help?
[05:32] <dwidmann> plugs: avi files will play ... avi is just a container format though, what matters is what video codec they've been encoded with
[05:32] <plugs> wait,,, isnt it libxine and whatnot
[05:32] <plugs> hmm let's think
[05:32] <dwidmann> You're probably thinking of libxine-extracodecs
[05:32] <plugs> i think i probably am
[05:33] <plugs> it doesnt exist anymore?
[05:33] <dwidmann> !multiverse | plugs
[05:33] <ubotu> plugs: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:34] <plugs> ah right i have to enable all those
[05:34] <zeekstarr> is there a way I can hide my IP address at all times?
[05:35] <Minataku> On Freenode, you mean?
[05:35] <Minataku> Just register for a mask
[05:35] <zeekstarr> no I mean on 6.10
[05:36] <zeekstarr> is there a way so it's always hidden, while browsing the web, etc...
[05:36] <Minataku> No, there isn't... well, maybe tor but I don't know enough about that to say anything
[05:37] <zeekstarr> alright thanx
[05:38] <plugs> awright. installed libxine-extracodecs and i'm good
[05:40] <plugs> except i dont think the sound works
[05:52] <Rug> Howdy all, I am using Kubuntu Edgy but I use fluxbox as my WM.  Why don't the 'kde' apps get system settings saved when I close them?  (ie. I setup konqueror to show file-manager the way I like it, but if another app opens konq, then my saved preferences are not used.)
[05:53] <endo602> dwidmann, still not working
[05:53] <dwidmann> Really?
[05:54] <dwidmann> you aren't trying to install nvidia-glx after are you? That would probably fail, and miserably at that ...
[05:55] <endo602> no i am not
[05:55] <endo602> device still is vesa
[05:56] <dwidmann> endo602: well, that would be a problem then
[05:57] <dwidmann> you need to change it to nvidia ... nvidia-xconfig does the job well, though I think envy probably asked you to run it
[05:58] <endo602> envy hasnt
[05:58] <endo602> nvidia-xconfig doesnt have the options to change it
[05:58] <dwidmann> running it is all it takes, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" changes everything to suit
[05:58] <dwidmann> no options needed
[05:59] <zeekstarr> are any video screenshot tools in the kubuntu repositories?
[05:59] <endo602> after i do that should i restart?
[06:00] <dwidmann> endo602, well, you would at least have to restart x
[06:00] <dwidmann> don't need to do a full reboot though
[06:01] <Delphinus>  is it possible to set ssh to ask what username you want to login to remote machine with like putty does?
[06:01] <endo602> got it to work for the time being
[06:01] <endo602> thanks so much
[06:02] <dwidmann> You're welcome
[06:05] <Rug> Delphinus: you could try this:   ssh username@server.com
[06:05] <Delphinus> yeah i normally do, but i would prefer is possible to just go ssh server.com, then have it prompt me for a username
[06:07] <Rug> I can't think of any other method
[06:08] <sinless> hola
[06:08] <sinless> someone speak spanish?
[06:09] <Minataku> !es | sinless
[06:09] <ubotu> sinless: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:09] <Minataku> ^^
[06:16] <juano_> what can i get to play wma in xmms?
[06:16] <dr0fnax_away> !ru
[06:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:20] <juano_> what can i get to play wma in xmms?
[06:20] <juano_> what can i get to play .wma in xmms?
[06:29] <dwidmann> !multimedia | juano_
[06:29] <ubotu> juano_: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:30] <manchicken> So quiet in here.
[06:32] <dwidmann> I guess quiet is the ultimate goal of a support channel ... the point where people have their questions asked :)
[06:39] <Search4Lancer> this may seem silly, but.... how can I empty the Trash as root?
[06:39] <Search4Lancer> I'm running into a permissions problem
[06:39] <Search4Lancer> resulting in my not being able to empty the trash
[06:42] <juano_> cant get xmms to play wma :(
[06:46] <endo602> is there a way to setup a folder in /home that is routed to a folder in somewhere else?
[06:54] <manchicken> endo602: What exactly are you trying to do?
[06:54] <manchicken> !wma | juano_
[06:54] <ubotu> juano_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <Juno> manchicken: http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=453
[06:59] <juano_> manchicken: thanks ill try to reinstall win32codecs
[07:02] <manchicken> Juno: It's still proprietary trash.
[07:02] <Juno> manchicken: but free =D
[07:02] <manchicken> Juno: No, it still costs you your freedom.
[07:02] <Juno> how so?
[07:03] <Jucato> ahem...
[07:03] <manchicken> Juno: Do you get the four freedoms with it?  This document doesn't say you do.
[07:03] <manchicken> Jucato: Wait a minute, where were you 15 minutes ago? heh
[07:03] <Juno> I'm not sure what the four freedoms you're talking about are
[07:03] <Jucato> manchicken: watching... I don't know anything about xmms
[07:04] <Jucato> manchicken: I'm sure you'd love to educate Juno regarding the ideologies of the Free Software Movement in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:05] <Juno> Yea, because I actually am curious
[07:05] <manchicken> Juno: Freedom to use for any purpose, freedom to the source code and to study that source code, freedom to distribute up to and including selling, freedom to distribute modified copies up to and including selling.
[07:06] <makuseru> whats the name of the ubuntu distro that uses xfce?
[07:06] <manchicken> But with that, I shall retire for the evening.
[07:06] <manchicken> adept won't compile.
[07:06] <manchicken> I broke it.
[07:06] <manchicken> I'll have to fight it some more tomorrow.
[07:06] <manchicken> ^_^
[07:06] <Slackwise> Adept /is/ broken by nature.
[07:06] <Jucato> makuseru: Xubuntu
[07:07] <manchicken> Naw, adept is just misunderstood.
[07:07] <makuseru> theres another though
[07:07] <Hawkwind> LOL @ adept.  Now there's a piece of code that is pretty worthless
[07:07] <makuseru> had a pretty long name
[07:07] <Juno> Ark linux uses Kynaptic?
[07:07] <Slackwise> I stick to apt-get/cache/dpkg and Synaptic, since they work.
[07:07] <Jucato> Juno: no
[07:07] <Slackwise> Adept is just... worthless, really.
[07:08] <Slackwise> It just needs love.
[07:08] <Jucato> Adept needs work. which is what manchicken is trying to do...
[07:08] <Jucato> don't throw out the baby together with the tub...
[07:08] <Juno> Jucato: thats what its called =\
[07:08] <Jucato> Juno: what do you mean?
[07:08] <manchicken> Juno: Here is some more information for your reading (since you said you were curious) http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
[07:08] <manchicken> Now I really do have to go to bed.
[07:08] <Juno> Jucato: ArkLinux doesnt have adept.  It has a package manager called Kynaptic
[07:08] <manchicken> I need to get some sleep so that I can make some serious progress tomorrow.
[07:09] <Jucato> Juno: aah... you have to be specific. There's an app installed named "Ark", which is a compression/decompression app (think Zip, Rar. Tar.Gz)
[07:09] <manchicken|away> Nighty night all you happy people.
[07:10] <Juno> Jucato: ahh...  yea sorry.  I confuse people with that all the time. =\
[07:10] <Juno> So can anyone take a shot at helping me fix my video issues?
[07:11] <Slackwise> Juno: What kind of card do you have?
[07:11] <Slackwise> Juno: Also, what kind of video problem? As in playing videos, video as in your video hardware...?
[07:12] <Juno> Slackwise: ati radeon x700 pro.  no major problems just annoying things.  I can't set up my dual monitors correctly, and the background images I use have screwed up colors in the dark areas.
[07:13] <juano_> cant play wma in xmms still
[07:13] <juano_> :(
[07:13] <Slackwise> Juno: Ahh, no clue about dual monitors in Linux, but the dark area problem sounds like a hardware overlay problem.
[07:13] <Juno> Slackwise: and google earth runs horribly also.  =\
[07:14] <Slackwise> Juno: I used to be an ATI lover, until I realized they're all "LOL LINUXXX" so now I purchase only NVIDIA cards. :/
[07:15] <Juno> Slackwise: I've come to dislike ATI lately myself, but I can't afford to get a new card rght now.
[07:15] <Minataku> Yeah, ATI is a DRM Whore
[07:16] <Slackwise> This really sounds like a driver issue, and me having no recent experience with ATI cards, I'm not that great of a help. :/
[07:16] <Slackwise> Juno: I'd send you my NVIDIA 5700 Ultra... if it weren't broken :(
[07:16] <Slackwise> Worked beautifully in Linux.
[07:16] <Slackwise> Until Vista broke it
[07:16] <Juno> can you not send it in for warrenty?
[07:16] <Slackwise> (Seriously, I launched a screensaver in Vista and it died)
[07:16] <Slackwise> Juno: I'm going to try, but I got impatient with it and decided to buy a new card anyways.
[07:16] <Minataku> Slackwise: Let me guess, you tried to watch a DVD and it said "LOL I THINK YUO STOLED THIS" and fried the card
[07:17] <Slackwise> Got me a cheap XFX 6800GT
[07:17] <Slackwise> Minataku: I think the chip was damaged from heat stress, actually.
[07:17] <Slackwise> And using the DirectX 9/10 BS that Vista has must have made it freak out on launching that fancy screensaver.
[07:17] <Minataku> Or even better "Windows Vista has detected that your video card lacks HDCP. Windows Vista will now destroy this card and force you to buy a new one."
[07:18] <Slackwise> It faded into darkness, and then my monitor lost the signal... and that was the last I heard of my card.
[07:18] <Slackwise> For the record, it was acting flakey in the first place.
[07:18] <Minataku> Leave that part out
[07:18] <Minataku> That last line
[07:18] <Slackwise> From a cold boot, I'd have to power cycle at least 2 or 3 times
[07:18] <Slackwise> before i would get a video signal after POST
[07:18] <Minataku> It's much better if you don't mention that, trust me
[07:19] <Minataku> XD
[07:19] <Minataku> I can see it on the blogs now
[07:19] <Minataku> "WINDOWS VISTA DESTROYS VIDEO CARDS"
[07:19] <Slackwise> I'm just going to call eVGA and ask them if they can fix up my card, and if so, I may setup a desktop for my little sister or donate it to someone needy :P
[07:19] <Juno>  <--- someone needdy
[07:19] <Minataku> Take it apart and throw it piece by piece through the windows at Microsoft HQ
[07:20] <Minataku> Haha... broken windows at Microsoft
[07:20] <Juno> lol
[07:20] <Minataku> I'm sure they're used to it, wink wink
[07:20] <Minataku> XD
[07:21] <Slackwise> lol
[07:21] <Minataku> I didn't intend for that to be a pun but it ended up being one of those ultra-rare puns that was actually funny so I'm happy with it
[07:22] <Minataku> X3
[07:43] <K-Ryan> hey guys, know what aa3d does?
[07:46] <Death_Monkey_> Does anyone have any suggestions for installing Firefox?
[07:46] <K-Ryan> Having problems?
[07:46] <Death_Monkey_> I don't understand the process of installing things from tars
[07:46] <K-Ryan> well a .tar.gz is like a .zip file on windows
[07:46] <K-Ryan> you just extract it
[07:46] <K-Ryan> however
[07:47] <K-Ryan> if you goto your kmenu, then add/remove packages
[07:47] <K-Ryan> Search firefox, it should be in there, install it through there and it will be much easier
[07:47] <Death_Monkey_> Alrighty
[07:47] <Death_Monkey_> I'll probably end up doing that for this
[07:47] <K-Ryan> I reccomend it
[07:48] <Death_Monkey_> But is there a tutorial you can point me to for future installs?
[07:48] <Death_Monkey_> I will be needing to install some wacom drivers and some other things that are not in the add/remove
[07:48] <yan> I didnt see an html editor in add/remove programs?  Is there an easily installed one?
[07:49] <K-Ryan> For installs im not sure
[07:49] <K-Ryan> I myself am not too good with em, just got Linux myself
[07:49] <Jucato> yan: Quanta, Nvu
[07:50] <Death_Monkey_> Yan - did you see Quanta Plus under Development?
[07:50] <Death_Monkey_> Okay, thanks K-Ryan
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Umm, anyone else have trouble running the streams in amarok?
[07:50] <K-Ryan> No problem Death_Monkey
[07:50] <K-Ryan> My streams connect, but I hear nothing
[07:52] <K-Ryan> !streams
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streams - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <K-Ryan> !amarok
[07:52] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to get mp3 streams to work?
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Can anyone reccomend a program that will work with mp3 streams?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> anyone know if its possible to setup an export of thunderbird or evolution calendar to an ftp and have it sync up?
[08:04] <yan> thanks for quanta
[08:04] <yan> im checking it out
[08:05] <Jucato> anyone here using Scribus on Kubuntu?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to run Kodo or AMOR under the Others section of Adept?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> I installed them, but I can't find out where it put them...
[08:06] <juano> anyone know how to make wma play in xmmS?
[08:06] <juano> ive tried all the basic stuff... doesnt work
[08:08] <darrell> hi all
[08:08] <yan> is there any program in kubuntu that nativly connects to Exchange server?  Not using IMAP or POP?
[08:08] <darrell> i need help, please
[08:09] <darrell> i need help about beryl, some one please?
[08:09] <Jucato> !beryl | darrell
[08:09] <ubotu> darrell: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:09] <K-Ryan> thanks jucato, was about to do that =P
[08:10] <unix_infidel> anyone happen to know what the typical flash drive costs in terms of electricity...a typical USB slot puts out about 900mW
[08:10] <K-Ryan> flash drive shouldnt be too much
[08:11] <unix_infidel> K-Ryan: I'm thinking about doing a DIY hack of a USB hub and a couple 2GB usb flash drives that go for pretty cheap.
[08:11] <K-Ryan> Why?
[08:11] <K-Ryan> Wouldn't it be cheaper to get a small external?
[08:12] <darrell> My beryl setting not work, what can i do?
[08:12] <K-Ryan> Especially considering externals usually rely on a power source of their own
[08:12] <unix_infidel> because 8GB flash drives...are expensive.
[08:13] <K-Ryan> No, an external hard drive
[08:13] <K-Ryan> you could probably get a 50gb external, or even a 20gb if you wanted
[08:13] <K-Ryan> wouldnt be too costly
[08:13] <K-Ryan> and would be a lot more efficient than a couple of flash drives
[08:14] <unix_infidel> ahhh, i forgot to consider bus efficiency.
[08:15] <K-Ryan> I mean, I know my SD card for my camera is 2GB and that cost $30 bucks
[08:16] <K-Ryan> So for the price of a usb hub and a couple of flash drives, you could just get an external hard drive and have 3x the space at least
[08:16] <lupine_85>  flash is not good for constantly writing to
[08:16] <lupine_85> really not good
[08:16] <K-Ryan> I don't have experience with it so I wouldn't really know about that...
[08:16] <lupine_85> if you're just using it for media storage, it'd be OK
[08:16] <K-Ryan> Good to know though, thanks
[08:17] <lupine_85> but if you're mounting / on it... make sure /tmp at least is in RAM
[08:17] <K-Ryan> Well its a quarter after 2 in the morning
[08:17] <K-Ryan> I'm out, night guys
[08:23] <sinbad33> *huggles*
[08:25] <usuario> hola ?
[08:25] <usuario> xD
[08:31] <yan> is there a GUI PPTP vpn client for Kubuntu>
[08:36] <Jucato> anyone else using Scribus here?
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:41] <andreasw> hi
[08:59] <dennis> hi! on my laptop i cannot use the touchpad (perhaps because i updated all packets...) - can anyone help me? what shall i do?
[09:05] <yan> is kubuntu dapper or etchy
[09:06] <yan> !dapper
[09:06] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[09:06] <yan> !etchy
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <yan> !edgy
[09:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:06] <dope> DAPPER DRAKE WHAT WHAT!
[09:06] <dope> is fiesty gonna have kde 4?
[09:07] <yan> what is the current iso for kubuntu?
[09:07] <yan> dapper ?
[09:07] <dope> edgy is the latest
[09:07] <dope> dapper is 6.06 and edgy is 6.10
[09:07] <yan> how can i tell what I have?
[09:07] <dope> that's a good question
[09:07] <Hawkwind> cat /etc/lsb_release
[09:07] <yan> wheres right click my computer?  lol
[09:07] <Jucato> "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[09:08] <Hawkwind> Or lsb_release -a actually
[09:08] <Hawkwind> LOL
[09:08] <dope> try "sudo shutdown -h 0"
[09:08] <Jucato> dope: and what exactly is that for?
[09:08] <dope> that'll shutdown the computer
[09:09] <Jucato> and what relation does it have to yan's question?
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Halts the systems
[09:09] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It doesn't.
[09:09] <dope> when he starts it back up it might say
[09:09] <dope> just a guess
[09:09] <Hawkwind> dope: Seriously overboard d00d
[09:09] <dope> :O
[09:09] <dope> whenever i have a problem i use that command
[09:09] <yan> i thought you never had to reboot linux.  :)
[09:09] <dope> only when you're as talented as i am and can muck things up
[09:10] <yan> lol
[09:11] <yan> codename dapper
[09:11] <yan> thanks
[09:11] <yan> whats LSB?
[09:11] <dope> light side base
[09:11] <yan> tx
[09:12] <dope> actually i'm not serious
[09:12] <dope> i've no idea
[09:12] <dope> but that would be my guess
[09:12] <yan> this is hard enough
[09:12] <Jucato> Linux Standard Base
[09:12] <Jucato> !lsb
[09:12] <dope> was close
[09:12] <ubotu> lsb: Linux Standard Base 3.1 support package. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-10ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[09:12] <Jucato> bah not very helpful
[09:12] <Hawkwind> Hah
[09:13] <Jucato> http://lsb.freestandards.org/
[09:13] <yan> pptpconfig: Depends: php-gtk-pcntl (>= 1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[09:13] <yan> whats that mean?
[09:13] <yan> is pptpconfig using an outdated package?
[09:13] <yan> so it cant be installed?
[09:14] <Hawkwind> !lsb
[09:14] <ubotu> The Linux Standard Base, or LSB, is a joint project by several Linux distributions under the organizational structure of The Free Standards Group to standardize the internal structure of Linux-based operating systems. The LSB is based on the POSIX specification, the Single UNIX Specification, and several other open standards, but extends them in certain areas.
[09:14] <dope> pptpconfig has a dependency
[09:14] <dope> i believe
[09:14] <dope> and it has to bet met before you can install it
[09:14] <yan> seems to be php-gtk-pcntl
[09:14] <yan> but it says it wont install it?  or that means I have to apt get that first?
[09:15] <dope> if you use the package manager it should d/l everything for you
[09:15] <yan> I thought apt got whatever it needed
[09:15] <yan> its not in the package manager
[09:15] <dope> try the package manager
[09:15] <dope> i know
[09:15] <dope> oh
[09:15] <dope> no?
[09:15] <dope> it should be
[09:15] <yan> pptplinux is
[09:15] <yan> but not config
[09:15] <dope> hit reload
[09:16] <yan> hey
[09:16] <yan> cool
[09:16] <yan> its there now
[09:16] <dope> :)
[09:16] <dope> i can sometimes be helpful
[09:16] <yan> well hopefully i dont have to reboot into windows to hook up to vpn.  ive got about 2 hours of tinkering before bed
[09:17] <yan> its midnight already
[09:17] <dope> it's 3:17am here
[09:17] <dope> i should really go to bed i think maybe
[09:17] <yan> lol
[09:17] <dope> i think i have sleep anxiety :x
[09:17] <yan> hey i just clicked install on pptpconfig and its all red and says break
[09:18] <dope> that doesn't sound good
[09:18] <yan> nope
[09:18] <yan> lol
[09:18] <dope> i don't think i've ever gotten that
[09:18] <yan> i just search for that php-gtk thing and tried to install it and it says break (install) too
[09:19] <dope> hmm
[09:19] <yan> yeah says the commit would break packages
[09:19] <dope> oh
[09:19] <yan> yeah i went ahead and said apply ... im a clicker
[09:19] <dope> well i dunno
[09:19] <dope> i don't think i've ever gotten that
[09:19] <dope> just like my mother
[09:19] <dope> :P
[09:19] <yan> well hopefully somebody updtes that
[09:19] <nate_> #kubuntu-xgl
[09:19] <yan> PPTP vpn is critical
[09:20] <dope> i don't use a vpn
[09:20] <dope> or really know what it is
[09:20] <dope> virtual private network
[09:20] <dope> that's about it
[09:20] <yan> secure connection to the office
[09:20] <yan> also so i can hook up evolution to my exchange server
[09:21] <dope> i'm sure OSX has something like that
[09:23] <dope> i walked out into the living room around 1 to find my roommate and her friend makin out
[09:23] <dope> i'm never makin out with her again :|
[09:23] <dope> i better not go out there and find them doin it
[09:23] <yan> is her friend a girl?
[09:24] <dope> i wish
[09:24] <dope> then it wouldn't be a big deal
[09:24] <yan> oh bummer
[09:24] <dope> yea :/
[09:24] <yan> lol
[09:24] <yan> k well i give up.  reboot to winblows and get some work done i guess.
[09:24] <yan> nite all
[09:24] <yan> thanks
[09:24] <dope> nitenite
[09:28] <nate_> sooo, who wants to get beryl working on my computer
[09:30] <|Osiris> can someone help me with my wireless setup? I do not get an ip
[09:40] <Hawai`i> omg...
[09:40] <Hawai`i> proftpd is a pain in keister
[09:41] <nate_> 87611 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17522.168 FPS is that good?
[09:44] <stdin> nate_: yeah,  that's good. 30FPS is real time, so you got plenty of room there :)
[09:44] <nate_> then why cant i get beryl to work? i have a nvidia 7900GS with the drive the envy script downloads
[09:45] <stdin> nate_: do you have XGL installed tho?
[09:45] <nate_> ive followed heaps of how to's and they all end up with my system being unbootable
[09:46] <nate_> ive done like 5reinstall
[09:46] <nate_> s
[09:46] <stdin> was it this guide ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[09:47] <nate_> yeh ive tried that one and it didnt work
[09:48] <nate_> the nvidia -glx drive dose nothing for m
[09:48] <nate_> e
[09:49] <stdin> nate_: that page has nothing to do with nvidia-glx, you need to install xserver-xgl
[09:49] <nate_> yeh i know, but when it says sudo apt-get nvidia-glx, that driver dose nothing
[09:50] <dwidmann> 30FPS on a 7900GS sounds kind of weak ...
[09:50] <stdin> nate_: it doesn't sat anything about nvidia-glx on that page
[09:50] <stdin> *say
[09:51] <dwidmann> wait, I had missed something (obviously), anyhow, the easiest way to get beryl working has nothing to do with xgl ...
[09:52] <dwidmann> the easy way is: set up the 96xx drivers, add a line to the xorg.conf file, install beryl, and you should be good to go ...
[09:53] <nate_> well my pc specs are toshiba p100 core2duo 2ghz, 2gb ram, 7900GS 512mb
 nate@NATIOUS:~$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[09:53] <nate_> [19:48]  <nate_> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9746  Fri Dec 15 09:54:45 PST 2006
[09:53] <nate_> [19:48]  <nate_> GCC version:  gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[09:53] <stdin> dwidmann: aiglx?
[09:53] <nate_> thats the drivers im using
[09:54] <dwidmann> stdin, well, I'm not really sure what it is, it may be nvidia-glx, then again, I'm pretty sure whatever it is to do with it is integrated into the nvidia driver itself ... thus requiring the 96xx drivers.
[09:55] <stdin> dwidmann: if you don't get xserver-xgl then it aiglx (with the latest driver from nvidia)
[09:56] <dwidmann> hmm, then I guess it is
[09:56] <dwidmann> then again, I've been told otherwise, and quite frankly, I really don't care and don't want to argue :)
[09:56] <dwidmann>  Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[09:56] <dwidmann> you need th at line in the Screen section
[09:57] <stdin> dwidmann: is that on edgy or dapper?
[09:57] <dwidmann> I'm using edgy
[09:57] <nate_> dapper
[09:58] <dwidmann> I'm not sure whether that line was required or not , but I do remember reading in one of the beryl howtos (there seem to be too many floating around honestly) that I needed it ... so I threw it in
[09:58] <stdin> on edgy (xorg 7.0) it's easy, on dapper, you need to add a repo and get the xorg update, but you can try it by just adding the lines to xorg.conf and see
[09:59] <stdin> opps, it's 7.1 not 7.0
[09:59] <dwidmann> indeed
[09:59] <stdin> if you can get aiglx to work, go with it, it's better than xgl in a few ways
[10:01] <dwidmann> I remember XGL being quite the pain in the butt .. if I wanted to use it with other things that used opengl ...
[10:07] <stdin> yeah, it don't play nice with opther opengl apps
[10:07] <stdin> aiglx is fine with them :)
[10:08] <bartist> hello!
[10:09] <bartist> i am planing to format ma hdd
[10:09] <bartist> to have a frsh kubuntu install
[10:09] <bartist> i've 30gb
[10:09] <dwidmann> on the bright side of xgl, I can only really name one thing ... kwin + translucency&shadows didn't leak memory on me in an xgl session (always has/did otherwise)
[10:09] <bartist> what partitions do you recommand me?
[10:09] <dwidmann> 30gb sounds like plenty
[10:10] <dwidmann> Probably 9gb for /, 1gb for swap, and the rest for /home is what I would do, but you can do it however you like of course
[10:10] <bartist> 30gb = 1 gb swap + 5gb linux + *gb storage?
[10:10] <bartist> dwidmann, they told me to separate /home from /
[10:11] <bartist> but instead of having a separate /home partitions
[10:11] <bartist> why not having /home on the sys partition
[10:11] <bartist> and doing a separate /storage partition.?
[10:11] <bartist> in that way, all the config files remain on the sys partition
[10:11] <stdin> bartist: it's just in case you ever need to reinstall, you won't loose all your data and settings
[10:12] <dwidmann> I must also say that if you only give / 5gb, you'll run out
[10:12] <bartist> yes but some time the idea of a fresh install is to have default config
[10:12] <dwidmann> for example, my / is using 5.2gb right now
[10:13] <stdin> i was going to say, something like ~10gb for /
[10:13] <stdin> you'll have plenty of space then
[10:13] <bartist> also, i have now 1gb of swap
[10:13] <bartist> but never use more than 100mb
[10:13] <dwidmann> 10 is a good number ... it's what I always use :)
[10:13] <bartist> so its a waste
[10:14] <dwidmann> I almost never use swap at all ... one of the benefits of having 2gb of RAM
[10:14] <dwidmann> yet I still keep my gig of swap because I've got plenty of space to waste
[10:14] <bartist> i only have 500mb of ram
[10:14] <mineur> hello hello
[10:14] <bartist> so what are your recommendations?
[10:14] <mineur> resize your swap :)
[10:15] <bartist> 1gb swap + 10gb / + 19gb /home?
[10:15] <mineur> I don't even have swap turned on
[10:15] <dwidmann> bartist, sounds good
[10:15] <depesz> hi. where can i find howto about kubunu (edgy) + beryl (using ati card) ?
[10:15] <stdin> bartist: I agree
[10:16] <bartist> but again, i could do: 1gb swap + 10gb / and /home + 19gb /storage
[10:16] <bartist> so which one?
[10:16] <dwidmann> depesz, there is an (enormous) thread about both beryl and compiz going on in the ubuntuforums, general section, it's stickied
[10:17] <depesz> dwidmann: thanks. searching.
[10:17] <dwidmann> bartist, up to you, I personally don't see much benefit in seperating my /home and my storage ... but if you do, feel free
[10:18] <mineur> I'd recommend the wiki from beryl itself...
[10:18] <dwidmann> which reminds me, I have far too much unpartitioned space at the moment ...
[10:18] <dwidmann> !lvm | dwidmann
[10:18] <ubotu> dwidmann: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:19] <stdin> depesz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl << look there too
[10:19] <mineur> a efw days ago someone mentioned a soccer game... anyone knows the name of that came?
[10:19] <mineur> *game
[10:19] <stdin> depesz: and here :P https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[10:20] <bartist> dwidmann if you don't separate them, how do you reset the config of your home?
[10:20] <bartist> sorry my internet crashed
[10:20] <bartist> dwidmann if you don't separate storage and home, how do you reset yourr config?
[10:20] <mineur> reset your config?
[10:20] <depesz> stdin: thx.
[10:20] <mineur> just have a backop :p
[10:20] <mineur> backup
[10:20] <bartist> arf
[10:21] <stdin> depesz: np :)
[10:21] <bartist> the point of doing a fresh install is to have a fresh config too
[10:21] <dwidmann> bartist, what I would do to do that would be to create a new folder on the /home partition, move the storage into it, then wipe out the settings, and copy them back
[10:22] <dwidmann> either that or maybe something like sudo rm -rf ~/.*
[10:24] <stdin> mineur: logs are good: <Mr_L0rD>  bolzplatz2006= a wonderful 3D soccer game
[10:24] <bartist> ok thanx for the advices
[10:24] <mineur> that's it! thanx, I was using a different pc then :)
[10:25] <stdin> mineur: I have a 13MB log file, just for this channel :P
[10:25] <mineur> you're addicted :p
[10:26] <stdin> it starts from may 21 2006 :P
[10:26] <bartist> that's a lot to read*!
[10:26] <bartist> hours
[10:27] <stdin> grep is your friend :P
[10:27] <Valmarko> stdin, what are the most common qustions ?
[10:27] <stdin> Valmarko: "how do I get mp3s to play? "
[10:27] <Valmarko> :) right
[10:28] <stdin> that and flash are the most common
[10:28] <bartist> of course
[10:28] <bartist> those are the most comon applications of pcs
[10:28] <mineur> most common: everything you find with google in > 5 minuts :)
[10:28] <bartist> well i have a fresh install to do
[10:29] <mineur> <5 that would be
[10:29] <bartist> have a good evening
[10:29] <dwidmann> hmm, my log is only 6mb ... then again, up until recently I always used kopete ... another 5mb there, I think I've almost caught up :O
[10:30] <dwidmann> 13mb does sound awfully small though, for an 8 month long log
[10:30] <mineur> actually this channel is relatively slow for the amount of users in it
[10:31] <dwidmann> mineur, not really, seems normal to me ... the lurker to talker ratio always seems to be pretty high ...
[10:31] <Valmarko> Cool... I just found out that I have reported the last 100Kb of conversations
[10:31] <Valmarko> I have a log... I mean
[10:32] <mineur> I've seen worse :)
[10:32] <Valmarko> :) yaa
[10:32] <nailz> I only ask a question here if google cant help :) like whats a good screecasting prog for Kubuntu?
[10:32] <dwidmann> worse ... yes, I think I've seen chans with 500 people ... yet nobody actually talking
[10:32] <mineur> screecasting????
[10:33] <dwidmann> nailz, when you find out, tell me, I'm curious
[10:33] <nailz> sry *screencasting/ recording prog :p
[10:33] <mineur> oh :)
[10:33] <mineur> noooooooooooo idea hehe
[10:34] <nailz> heh ty
[10:35] <mineur> but on the ubuntu website there's a collection of screencast videos... maybe you can find out with what they were made, I'll keep my fingers crossed it wasn't on vmware or something :d
[10:35] <stdin> nailz: popey wrote a howto thing about screencasts http://popey.com/Creating_Screencasts
[10:35] <stdin> mineur: I know the guy who made them :)
[10:35] <nailz> stdin thanks much :D
[10:36] <stdin> mineur: I even made one :P
[10:36] <stdin> the only kubuntu one on there :)
[10:36] <mineur> hehe
[10:36] <stdin> I need to make some more, popey is way ahead of me now
[10:38] <mineur> that howto looks nice tho, but still I prefer a nice wiki over a screencast :)
[10:39] <stdin> if you're totally new to linux, it helps to have someone show you exactly what to do :P
[10:39] <stdin> they aren't really for the experienced users
[10:39] <mineur> I noticed... :)
[10:40] <stdin> tho plans are to dive in to the cli some time, after the basics are covered
[10:40] <mineur> nice
[10:41] <mineur> but is it needed? Aren't there enough references around for that?  ok I admit, if it will be done as nicely then the whole ubuntu thing... it'll be much better then anything around
[10:41] <Valmarko> I wish I could find the best possible configuration in order to explore the full capabilities of my graphics card. Sometimes I have the sensation that visual performance ( windows opening faster, moving without traces...)of my desktop could be better.
[10:41] <mineur> I'm still pretty amazed almost everything on my laptop just works out of the box
[10:42] <mineur> Valmarko: you use Beryl or compiz?
[10:43] <Valmarko> No. My pc comes with ati radeon 9550 and I use the open source driver
[10:43] <mineur> why don't you use ATI's driver? any political reasons for that? :)
[10:44] <Valmarko> No. I just heard that the one that comes with 6.10  ( the opne source driver) is better
[10:44] <mineur> but is it the pc slowing down things or maybe it's the nature of the enabled eye-candy?  Some animations look nice but don't add productivity :)
[10:45] <Valmarko> I understand but... the desktop is set by default. I didnt make any significant changes
[10:46] <mineur> hmmm
[10:46] <dwidmann> the only things I really, really liked about beryl were the zoom, and that one other thing that it does when you go to the top right corner ...
[10:46] <mineur> dwidmann: scale it is called the mac-like expose
[10:47] <mineur> yeah indeed it is nice :)
[10:47] <Jazon> hi!  i have my panel menus set up to appear when i touch the bottom of tthe screen.  is there a way to set it so that it isn't instant?  i want to avoid accidental touches
[10:47] <mineur> and the cube is nice to show off lol but I agree it doesn't add productivity, but doesn't remove productivity neither
[10:47] <dwidmann> asides from that, it kills half of my valuable keyboard shortcuts, and its settings gui is terrible
[10:47] <Jazon> i mean, i know there is a way ultimately... (god i love foss)  but is there an *easy* way? :P
[10:47] <mineur> ok maybe your expectations are too high? I have KDE with beryl (or should I say Beryl with kde... :) )  and it runs smoothly on my intel graphical card
[10:47] <Jazon> you guys talking about compiz?
[10:48] <Jazon> heh
[10:48] <stdin> minno beryl, not compiz
[10:48] <stdin> opps,
[10:48] <Jazon> is beryl better ?
[10:48] <stdin> why did i type minno?
[10:48] <mineur> has more features
[10:48] <mineur> it's a fork of compiz
[10:48] <Jazon> i have avoided since compiz.  it totally buggered my desktop.
[10:48] <stdin> beryl has more bling :P
[10:49] <Jazon> well, *i* totally buggered my desktop lol
[10:49] <mineur> ok some call it bling, some call it features hehehehe
[10:49] <Jazon> about my question.... any ideas?
[10:49] <stdin> I found compiz don't work well with kde
[10:49] <Jazon> ^^
[10:49] <Valmarko> A few days my curiosity made me explore other distros and , for example , I founf that using Fedora Core 6 , using the default settings, opens windows really faster. I'm not saying that Kubuntu isnt good. I'm free to choose and I'm very happy for sticking with Kubuntu. For several reasons...
[10:49] <Jazon> same here stdin
[10:50] <dwidmann> Valmarko, I think it has to do with some flag that they compile their packages with, can't recall what it was
[10:50] <mineur> Valmarko: have you tried another desktop manager and see if is is slow there to?
[10:50] <stdin> -O3 or something ?
[10:51] <mineur> hmm that won't make your apps slower... ???
[10:51] <mineur> only compile longer :d
[10:52] <colin_> Hi.  I got Kubuntu 6.06 installed yesterday!
[10:52] <colin_> It's very clean
[10:52] <mineur> congratulations colin_ :)
[10:52] <stdin> -O = optimise, I don't know all the number meanings, -O2 is normal, I think, and -O3 is optimise foe size
[10:52] <mineur> don't know all the numbers neither :)
[10:53] <mineur> I'm off to study a bit
[10:53] <dwidmann> I'll see if I can dig up what it was, I just remember hearing about it before
[10:53] <andres_> please som help:
[10:53] <stdin> they probably use some processor specific tuning too
[10:53] <colin_> I only start college again next week!
[10:54] <mineur> but I'm in Belgium... exams started last week............. so lots of time to play with new stuff :d
[10:54] <Valmarko> It's a good question but... I really like KDE and I guess my pc has the full potencial to handle it right. It's not the latest but I thinck that Pentium IV, 512Mg RAM, 117G sata HD and ati radeon 9550 ( with at least 128 Mb... not sure) it's more then enough to handle KDE at 100%
[10:54] <mineur> it is Valmarko
[10:54] <colin_> South Africa
[10:54] <andres_> im using kubuntu and i want to se movies from my computer with the tv?
[10:54] <Valmarko> It's a problem of configuration, I know
[10:55] <stdin> Valmarko: you can run KDE on a lot less too
[10:55] <Valmarko> I just dont know the right one
[10:55] <andres_> how do i do i downloaded nvtv but doest work
[10:55] <stdin> what's 'nvtv' ?
[10:56] <Valmarko> The driver is not configurated in a way that can explore totally the capabilities of the video card
[10:56] <colin_> over my head :-) Over and out
[10:57] <Valmarko> Maybe the next release will fullfill the gap:)
[10:57] <andres_> what can you recomend that i do?
[10:57] <stdin> what is "nvtv" ?
[10:58] <andres_> i reed about that bull in a swedish forum
[10:58] <stdin> !info nvtv
[10:58] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[11:00] <andres_> !info nvtv
[11:00] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-5 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[11:01] <stdin> andres_: try installing it then
[11:01] <keene> test
[11:01] <andres_> i have install the program but nothing happens
[11:01] <stdin> have you started the program ?
[11:04] <andres_> yes but nothing happens
[11:05] <stdin> read the man page for it
[11:05] <stdin> I haven't used it, so I don't know how to use it
[11:05] <stdin> in konsole "man nvtv"
[11:07] <Jucato> konqueror "man:/nvtv"
[11:08] <stdin> well, that works too :)
[11:08] <stdin> how come?
[11:09] <Jucato> anyone else able to print in Scribus?
[11:09] <stdin> never tried
[11:10] <Jucato> I can't print in Scribus on Linux... I can print on XP, but I can't view the document...
[11:13] <dwidmann> I never even managed to get my printer working :\ then again, it's on a computer downstairs that runs windows
[11:14] <Jucato> annoying thing is... other KDE apps print just fine... it's just the app that I really need that refuses to...
[11:15] <dwidmann> I thought scribus wasn't actually a kde app, just a qt app, though?
[11:16] <Jucato> yeah... which makes it double annoying... :P
[11:16] <Jucato> i.e., the lack of a working KDE solution... :(
[11:19] <Lynoure> Jucato: Scribus cannot export in .ps or something?
[11:19] <dwidmann> kword 2.0 looks like it has quite a few promising-looking improvements
[11:20] <Lynoure> Jucato: then you could print that.
[11:32] <daing_> Hey, Konqueror only shows /home and /media by default, is there a way for it to show every other folder in / to non-root users?
[11:32] <seven11> show hidden files
[11:32] <daing_> seven11: Under what menu?
[11:32] <seven11> daing_: view
[11:33] <daing_> seven11: thanks
[11:33] <seven11> no prob
[11:33] <daing_> seven11: no, thats not what I wanted. That shows files prefixed with . (normal unix hidden file or directory). I mean the directories hidden by KONQUEROR in the root file system
[11:34] <stdin> !hidden
[11:34] <daing_> seven11: is there a way to do only that
[11:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[11:34] <daing_> stdin: cheers
[11:34] <stdin> :)
[11:37] <Jucato> !ping
[11:37] <ubotu> pong
[11:50] <Jazon> hi Jucato :)
[11:51] <Jucato> hi Jazon
[11:51] <Jazon> i have my panel menus set up to appear when i touch the bottom of the screen.  is there a way to set it so that it isn't instant?  i want to avoid accidental touches continuously popping up the panels
[11:51] <Jazon> (without recompiling kde i mean :P )
[11:52] <Jucato> hm.. not that I'm aware of...
[11:52] <Jucato> the delay only applies to the re-hiding of the panel after your mouse has left...
[11:52] <Jazon> hmmm  i may just have to delve into the source code.  this is really annoying :/
[11:52] <Jucato> good luck :)
[11:52] <Jazon> have you ever hacked kde?
[11:53] <Jazon> heh
[11:53] <Jucato> once or twice
[11:53] <Jucato> gtg
[11:53] <Jazon> l8r dude
[11:53] <waylandbill> I scared Jucato away.. I know it! ;-)
[11:58] <william> is anyone there that might help me
[12:00] <william> i am having a problem with kubuntu and ltsp
[12:01] <chuen> Hi . Is there an app I can use to read 'raw' server logs a client has sent me? (If I should aask this on a forum instead, just say!)
[12:03] <william> can some one please help with ltsp
[12:03] <mineur[studying] > chuen: any editor will do?
[12:05] <chuen> minuer: Sure, but I wanted the log to be 'interpreted' so tha the stats were no longer 'raw' (IYSWIM).
[12:05] <mineur[studying] > what kinda logs are we talking about?
[12:06] <waylandbill> william__: what's the problem with ltsp? an error maybe?
[12:07] <william__> yes pxe-t01
[12:07] <william__> file not found
[12:07] <william__> but i can't edit any conf files they are locked by root
[12:07] <mineur[studying] > use sudo?
[12:07] <william__> i tried
[12:07] <william__> command not found
[12:08] <mineur[studying] > what distro are you on?
[12:08] <waylandbill> william__: you have a problem in the dhcp server config
[12:08] <william__> kubuntu
[12:08] <william__> but i con't edit it
[12:08] <william__> can't even
[12:08] <waylandbill> under sudo?
[12:08] <william__> it says i don't have the rights enough to save my edits
[12:09] <waylandbill> vi, kate, nano? what editor?
[12:09] <william__> i can't login gui with sudo and gedit doesn't work
[12:09] <william__> kate
[12:09] <waylandbill> kdesu kate [conf.file] 
[12:10] <mineur[studying] > hmm without the /me :d
[12:10] <william__> so in terminal use kdesu dhcpd.conf
[12:11] <waylandbill> Alt-F2 then 'kdesu kate [path to conf] /dhcpd.conf'
[12:11] <mineur[studying] > kdesu kate dhcpd.conf
[12:11] <william__> ok
[12:11] <william__> brb
[12:13] <william__> can i copy and pate the bulk of the exsisting one?
[12:13] <waylandbill> like an example one? you'll have to edit for your config, but yes.
[12:14] <william__> ok
[12:14] <william__> thank you
[12:15] <waylandbill> trying to just play with ltsp, or you trying to set up a real world laptop server?
[12:15] <william__> trying
[12:15] <william__> i have 5 kids and the internet is not where i truely want them but i can't stop them and my wife and i run a business
[12:16] <william__> so we all use one connection
[12:16] <william__> and all the assets
[12:16] <william__> not to mention the kids crassh the system a lot
[12:16] <waylandbill> That'd be perfect.
[12:17] <william__> i can't figure it out tho this was supposed to be all in one un like fedora i wan't supposed to have to configure it
[12:17] <waylandbill> I used it before when I had a laptop that had a dead HDD. It works good.
[12:17] <william__> i am new to linux and i am not certain what i am doing i tried it the easy way and still didn't work
[12:18] <waylandbill> it is the 'easy' way, but you need to educate yourself on the components that comprise a ltsp setup.
[12:18] <william__> yea
[12:18] <william__> i tried fedora first
[12:18] <william__> well i got the same mes there
[12:19] <william__> than i ran over this one and well i thought i would sleep better
[12:19] <william__> lol
[12:19] <waylandbill> I think the hardest is the dhcp server. once you get that, the rest is easier.
[12:19] <william__> ok is there a standard to this?
[12:19] <waylandbill> you got the dirst part sounds like... the tftp is running.
[12:19] <waylandbill> s/dirst/first/
[12:20] <mineur[studying] > setting up a dhcp server can't be that hard? :)
[12:20] <mineur[studying] > I remember doing it once....
[12:20] <waylandbill> it's not hard.. can be finicky sometimes tho.
[12:20] <mineur[studying] > used to have a good book tho, well more a lab guide
[12:20] <william__> any good ideas?
[12:21] <william__> i have looked at sourceforge theres look different everywhere i go to look they are all different
[12:21] <waylandbill> try putting the pxe files in the root of the tftp folder and not a subdir.
[12:22] <william__> i can't find the tftp root on this system?
[12:22] <waylandbill> really?
[12:22] <william__> fedoras is easy its in the root folder but kubuntu hid it on me
[12:22] <william__> lol
[12:22] <waylandbill> search the hdd for pxelinux.0
[12:22] <william__> app manager says i have one it isn't running but i can't find the root
[12:23] <william__> k brb
[12:28] <waylandbill> CVirus: interesting nick... any better than a PascalVirus? ;-)
[12:29] <CVirus> waylandbill: well .. it has nuthing to do with the C programing language
[12:29] <waylandbill> oh. first thought that came to mind. :-
[12:29] <waylandbill> d\
[12:29] <waylandbill> :-D
[12:30] <CVirus> hehe
[12:30] <william__> nope it says it can't find it
[12:30] <waylandbill> hmm... maybe I got it wrong. try just pxe*
[12:32] <posingaspopular> hello room. anyone available to help me with a little install problem?
[12:33] <william__> ok it is in folder opt/lstp
[12:33] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: nope. ;-D  what's the problem
[12:33] <william__> along with 3 others
[12:34] <waylandbill> now look at the tftp's configuration... is it's root /opt/lstp
[12:34] <posingaspopular> waylandbill: im trying to install super mario war on my compy. i downloaded the dmw-binary.tar.gz file to my desktop
[12:34] <posingaspopular> waylandbill: and since i just switched to kubuntu, i dont know how to install those files
[12:35] <waylandbill> untar the tar the tarball and probablt is source. you need to install 'build-essential' package
[12:37] <posingaspopular> waylandbill: is that under adept manage packages?
[12:37] <waylandbill> yes. build-essential is in adept
[12:43] <posingaspopular> waylandbill: okay build-essential is installed
[12:44] <william__> i think wayland is gone
[12:44] <waylandbill> I'm here..
[12:44] <waylandbill> need to reboot
[12:44] <william__> oh ok
[12:44] <posingaspopular> ah
[12:44] <posingaspopular> okay
[12:44] <posingaspopular> well
[12:44] <waylandbill> needed
[12:45] <posingaspopular> i tried sudo install smw.binary.tar.gz and i got a 'missing destination file operand after `smw-binary.tar.gz''
[12:45] <waylandbill> unpack the tarball and usually you'll comfigure; make; sudo make install
[12:45] <waylandbill> tar zxf smw-binary.tar.gz
[12:46] <waylandbill> it's binary though, so you may not need to build it. I didn't notice that at first.
[12:46] <posingaspopular> um what does 'tar' mean?
[12:46] <waylandbill> it's a program
[12:46] <waylandbill> Tape ARchive
[12:47] <posingaspopular> oh so you want me to unzip/extract it?
[12:47] <waylandbill> right
[12:48] <posingaspopular> okay so now i have two folders bin and share
[12:49] <waylandbill> ouch. they packed it like an rpm. :-/
[12:50] <waylandbill> they intended you to unpack them to the /usr directory, but the problem is then if you don't like it, it'll be a pain to remove.
[12:50] <waylandbill> What are you installing?
[12:50] <posingaspopular> super mario war
[12:50] <posingaspopular> in the bin folder
[12:50] <posingaspopular> there is an smw, which says it's executable
[12:50] <posingaspopular> but it wont run when i click it
[12:51] <waylandbill> where'd you download it from?
[12:53] <posingaspopular> http://smw.72dpiarmy.com/ which is the link from the native games, ubuntu document storage facility websight
[12:54] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: they have a source download. you may try that now that you have the build essentials.
[12:55] <waylandbill> that way you can use checkinstall to actually install it and have the option to remove it later.
[12:56] <waylandbill> that is what I would do anyway. Get the source. Build the source and instead of make install, use checkinstall to make a deb package.
[12:59] <posingaspopular> so which one of these is the actual package?
[12:59] <waylandbill> http://forum.72dpiarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=1435   <-- the link that says "Get the sourcecode"
[01:00] <waylandbill> they don't have an ubuntu or debian package, so I would use the source to make one
[01:01] <posingaspopular> oh okay i get it now
[01:01] <posingaspopular> i'll just wait a few hours until my brother wakes up and make him toy with it
[01:02] <posingaspopular> thanks
[01:03] <KennethP> When installing the webdeveloper 1.0.2 extention on Firefox 2.0.0.1 via Adept on Kubuntu 6.10 I see this 'Not compatible with Firefox 2.0.0.1' message' - any ideas?
[01:04] <KennethP> KennethP: According to the developer it should run fine under 2.0.0.1
[01:04] <waylandbill> posingaspopular:  hey not a problem. if the distro doesn't have a package, using the source with checkinstall is a great way to make sure you can remove it later.
[01:05] <william__> waylan u still there
[01:05] <waylandbill> yup
[01:05] <william__> which dchpd file am i supposed to edit
[01:06] <karmikaze> has anyone else here used suse 10-10.2? im curious as to the performance differences in the 3d desktop
[01:06] <karmikaze> beryl in kubuntu seems *alot* slower and choppier than the suse 3d desktop
[01:07] <william__> which version of linux makes a better ltsp admin
[01:07] <waylandbill> karmikaze: beryl is alpha, so any performance issues can't be taken too seriously.
[01:07] <lasse> wtf
[01:07] <lasse> :D
[01:07] <karmikaze> ok
[01:07] <lasse> konversation sucks
[01:07] <karmikaze> whats konversation for?
[01:07] <lasse> for irc? :P
[01:07] <waylandbill> william__: there should only be 1 dhcp conf file.
[01:07] <waylandbill> karmikaze: IRC
[01:07] <william__> nope i have found four
[01:08] <karmikaze> irssi ftw
[01:08] <waylandbill> what's the paths?
[01:08] <lasse> does anyone know how to minimize x-chat to tray?
[01:08] <william__> how do i uninstall all of the ltsp and reinstall it
[01:08] <william__> one is in usr/shar
[01:08] <william__> var/ltsp
[01:08] <william__> hold on
[01:09] <waylandbill> lasse. You probably have to use a switch on the command line to add an icon since it's not native kde
[01:09] <lasse> i don't use kde
[01:09] <waylandbill> lasse: Oh. Gnome?
[01:09] <lasse> just tried konversation because it could be minimized to tray
[01:09] <lasse> waylandbill: yes
[01:10] <william__> one is kde share
[01:10] <waylandbill> they have switches too, but I couldn't tell you off hand... you'll have to look at the docs
[01:10] <waylandbill> william__: none under /etc ?
[01:10] <william__> uh hold on
[01:11] <william__> yup under/ect/dhcp3
[01:11] <william__> but is readonly
[01:12] <waylandbill> william__: That the one! Need to be super user.
[01:12] <lasse> oops, there was a xchat-systray plugin on aptitude :)
[01:14] <waylandbill> lasse: yes... you're right. that'll do it perfect. :-D
[01:14] <blue|palm> hello?
[01:15] <lasse> now only i could find a way to enable it :P
[01:15] <blue|palm> can anybody help me with an odd install problem? on amd64?
[01:16] <waylandbill> lasse. I've used it under xfce way long ago. I think you need to enable an option in xchat itself.... I think
[01:16] <lasse> i would think that too, but there is no such an option :D
[01:18] <waylandbill> lasse: sorry. when I got a new laptop, went to kde from xfce... been too long to recall.
[01:18] <blue|palm> can anybody help me with an odd install problem? on amd64?
[01:18] <dealer> Hello good people! I'm in some truble. I've just reinstalled my windows, and that removed my GRUB loader, now I cant boot up my Kubuntu. Can anyone point me in a direction, a web page or something so I can get it up right again _
[01:18] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :). I need a little help.
[01:19] <lasse> dealer: just reinstall grub
[01:19] <stdin> [StingRay] : hey, you're lucky I just came back :)
[01:19] <dealer> lasse: How can I do that ? I'm in Kubuntu now, booted up with the cd, but I found litle help here
[01:19] <waylandbill> !ask
[01:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:19] <[StingRay] > I had no other choice but to switch from tightvnc to vnc4.
[01:20] <lasse> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[01:20] <lasse> could that help?
[01:20] <dealer> for me _
[01:20] <dealer> ?
[01:20] <[StingRay] > stdin, On tighvnc I was able to use xmodmap -display :xx /usr/share/xmodmap/xmopmap.my
[01:20] <lasse> dealer: yes
[01:20] <dealer> lasse: Thanks alot :)
[01:20] <blue|palm> Ive installed kubuntu... no problems during the install, but after restarting post-succesful install (grub works fine too) I am unable to boot ubuntu
[01:21] <[StingRay] > stdin, On vnc4serve I cannot switch languages at all, xmodmap and setxkbmap are not working
[01:21] <lasse> np :)
[01:21] <william__> waylan
[01:21] <blue|palm> *kubuntu
[01:21] <waylandbill> william__: what's new?
[01:21] <william__> nuttin
[01:21] <william__> it won't do nuttin
[01:21] <[StingRay] > stdin, btw vnc4server supports 21 X extensions as compared to tighvnc which suppors only 7.
[01:21] <william__> i have edited the ip addresses and it still won't do it
[01:21] <waylandbill> does the laptop get assigned an address?
[01:21] <william__> yes
[01:21] <[StingRay] > stdin, none of them however support XKEYBOARD,why?
[01:22] <william__> i get error
[01:22] <william__> file not found
[01:22] <waylandbill> ok.. what is it?
[01:22] <william__> pxe-01
[01:22] <william__> pxe-e3b
[01:22] <waylandbill> do you have that file?
[01:22] <william__> pxe-m0f
[01:22] <william__> what file
[01:23] <waylandbill> pxe-01
[01:23] <william__> i thought those were error codes
[01:23] <[StingRay] > stdin, is there another way of switching? If I use switching on the client side all is fine except for the wine applications :(
[01:23] <william__> my bad pxe-t01
[01:23] <william__> sorry
[01:23] <blue|palm> What can you do if your kubuntu OS wont boot after a succesful install?
[01:23] <f4rbr0r^kAll3> :O
[01:23] <[StingRay] > I have to swich it locally (on the server side) somehow, stdin.
[01:23] <stdin> [StingRay] : do the KDE settings work?
[01:23] <waylandbill> what did you specify as the filename in the dhcp config?
[01:24] <william__> pxelinux.0
[01:24] <[StingRay] > nope, stdin, you know kde settings are using setxkbmap...
[01:24] <[StingRay] > setxkbmap depends on XKEYBOARD...stdin
[01:24] <william__> there is also an nbi.img
[01:24] <stdin> [StingRay] : yeah, but I was just wondering
[01:25] <waylandbill> you need that in the exact path of the tftp server then. if it's just pxelinux.0 it needs to be in the root.
[01:25] <william__> oh lord
[01:25] <[StingRay] > I am absolutely amazed that xmodmap is not working, stdin.
[01:25] <william__> brb
[01:25] <stdin> [StingRay] : yeah, it should work with it
[01:26] <waylandbill> so specifying 'pxelinux.0' means you have to have /opt/ltsp/pxelinux.0 if that's where the tftproot is
[01:28] <[StingRay] > stdin, everything else just rocks...compression, response, wine compatibility...only this final problem...
[01:28] <lombra> bom dia
[01:30] <blue|palm> has anybody succesfully installed the edgy amd64 version?
[01:30] <william__> ok what about option file name
[01:30] <william__> my bad option root path
[01:30] <aldelv> Needs some help with keyboard on KDE.  Works on  true console and  on xterm started  from xinit but when I start kde from KDM i often get two  ore more chacterers per  keystroke
[01:33] <william__> waylan
[01:33] <waylandbill> william__: first thing is you have to know the root of the tftp.
[01:33] <william__> got it
[01:33] <william__> it is var/lib/tftpboot
[01:33] <waylandbill> there should be a  conf in the etc for it
[01:34] <waylandbill> ok
[01:34] <waylandbill> you need pxelinux.0 there.
[01:34] <william__> there are two filenames
[01:34] <william__> i dir the first one to the absoulute path to the pxe
[01:35] <william__> the other is an option root path
[01:35] <waylandbill> I don't think the dhcp conf can have an absolute to the pxe. it has to have relative to tftp root
[01:36] <william__> i set the file name as follows
[01:36] <stdin> [StingRay] : hmm, I don't know how to make it work, I've not really had that much experience with it
[01:37] <stdin> [StingRay] : I've tried looking on google, but can't find much
[01:37] <[StingRay] > ok, stdin. I will share the resolution in case I have one...
[01:37] <william__> var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0
[01:37] <stdin> [StingRay] : freenx has spoilt me :P
[01:38] <[StingRay] > stdin, why
[01:38] <[StingRay] > I was just going to decide for it..., stdin
[01:38] <william__> the option root path goes to an nbi.img
[01:38] <stdin> [StingRay] : because it's easy to get it running, and you can specify a keymap
[01:38] <mineur[studying] > anyone using Beryl having problems with some screensavers too?
[01:39] <[StingRay] > :), stdin. How did you install it, seveas repos?
[01:39] <waylandbill> william__: copy the amd64's files to var/lib/tftpboot and then set the filename to just pxelinux.0
[01:40] <waylandbill> I had a problem that the boot files couldn't be in a subdir.
[01:40] <stdin> [StingRay] : I just downloaded it from nomachine, this was before there was a howto on the help page tho
[01:40] <william__> do what
[01:40] <[StingRay] > stdin, a guy yesteday warned me that seveas are broken as it comes to suspend/resume. I can confirm it too, though I made some modifications and now only 10% of the sessions are during internet drop
[01:40] <william__> copy all the files in the amd 64 to a new dir
[01:40] <[StingRay] > stdin, :) i went the same way!
[01:40] <waylandbill> the files in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/  ... copy them to /var/lib/tftpboot
[01:41] <[StingRay] > the problem is that nomachine, has limited it to only 2 connections, stdin :(. Otherwise nxserver from nomachine is just perfect...
[01:42] <william__> wont let me copy and paste
[01:42] <waylandbill> in terminal as super user
[01:43] <william__> i am not sure how to do that
[01:43] <stdin> [StingRay] : for me 2 connections was fine, as it was only to connect to my desktop when I was away
[01:44] <waylandbill> sudo cp -R /var/lib/tfpboot/ltsp/amd64/* /var/lib/tftpboot/
[01:44] <[StingRay] > I agree, stdin, however I need 6-7 permanent connections
[01:46] <william__> says no such directory
[01:46] <william__> i appologise i don't know what ia m doing
[01:47] <Valmarko> !LTS
[01:47] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[01:48] <Valmarko> What about version 6.10. Is it going to be LTS after 7.04 comes out ?
[01:48] <mineur[studying] > I'm pretty sure it isn't :)
[01:49] <Valmarko> why?
[01:49] <Valmarko> ummm... I think I understand
[01:50] <mineur[studying] > because it's practically impossible.. ubuntu wants a release every 6 months....... you can't offer support for that long for every release :)
[01:50] <Valmarko> After 3 years, 6.06 passes the legacy to the next one
[01:51] <william__> still with me waylon
[01:51] <mineur[studying] > LTS is imho only important for server releases
[01:52] <embrapa> someone can help me ?
[01:52] <mineur[studying] > depends with what :)
[01:52] <embrapa> ok.
[01:52] <embrapa> i try to start firefox
[01:52] <embrapa> but returns that message
[01:52] <embrapa> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:52] <embrapa> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:52] <embrapa> (firefox-bin:10796): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:52] <Jucato> !someone
[01:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:53] <stdin> embrapa: are you trying to start it as root?
[01:53] <embrapa> yes
[01:53] <stdin> embrapa: why?
[01:53] <friul_hack> hi
[01:53] <embrapa> why ?  what?
[01:54] <stdin> embrapa: why are you trying to start it as root?
[01:54] <embrapa> humm
[01:54] <embrapa> i dont know
[01:54] <embrapa> dont works?
[01:55] <embrapa> i will try whith a comon user
[01:55] <dealer> can I mount a NTFS disk, when I've only booted up with the CD ?
[01:55] <stdin> it's dangerous to run as browser as root
[01:55] <stdin> dealer: yeah, sure
[01:55] <embrapa> stdin: thank you
[01:55] <embrapa> it works
[01:55] <william__> waylan
[01:55] <dealer> stdin: how do I mount it ? 'man mount' ?
[01:55] <Valmarko> I wonder what that message from glxinfo really means -- libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:56] <stdin> dealer: do you know what device the ntfs partition is on? (eg /dev/hda1)
[01:56] <Valmarko> Do you know the meaning of it?
[01:56] <dealer>  /dev/hda6
[01:56] <mineur[studying] > just an unsupported OpenGL feature, not sure which exactly
[01:57] <stdin> Valmarko: It means your card doesn't support one of the extentions, I get it, it's fine :)
[01:57] <embrapa> stdin:  how i configure the firefox ? the browser dont have proprerits...why?
[01:57] <stdin> dealer: just run "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt" then it will be mounted in /mnt
[01:57] <william__> can i get some help
[01:57] <dealer> stdin: You just saved my day!
[01:58] <stdin> embrapa: it's in Edit -> Preferences
[01:58] <stdin> dealer: no problem :)
[01:58] <Valmarko> I know... if aint broken , dont fix it. Well, no exactly. If it can be better, do something :)
[01:58] <stdin> Valmarko: you can't fix it, it's hardware
[01:58] <william__> i am having issues with ltsp
[01:58] <mineur[studying] > it can't be better... it's probably your card not supporting a feature so the driver can't do better :)
[01:58] <embrapa> stdin: Thank you man! u
[01:58] <stdin> embrapa: no problem :)
[01:58] <Valmarko> ahhh... Now I got it :)
[01:59] <dealer> stdin: I dont have access to that folder when I try to open it
[01:59] <embrapa> stdin:  how i put on link of firefox on my kde desktop?
[01:59] <william__> lookin for help with ltsp
[02:00] <dealer> Permission denied
[02:00] <stdin> dealer: ok, un-mount it "sudo umount /mnt" then mount it like this "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt -o uid=$(id -u)"
[02:01] <william__> hey waylan
[02:01] <stdin> embrapa: go to the menu entry in the K-menu, right click it, choose "Add Item to Desktop"
[02:01] <dealer> stdin: I would have kissed you, have you been within reach!!! Now I'll be ready for The Burning Crusade :-D
[02:02] <william__> i need some help with copying files to a different dir
[02:02] <stdin> dealer: heh, that's ok, a "thanks" is enough :P
[02:02] <dealer> well, thanks :-D
[02:02] <stdin> :)
[02:06] <okirema> ubtntu-es
[02:06] <okirema> ubuntu-es
[02:06] <william__> can someone tell me the best distro for using ltsp
[02:06] <mineur[studying] > distro doesn't matter william__
[02:07] <william__> well i am having issues getting it to work
[02:07] <william__> i was getting help from waylan but has yet to pull it all to gether
[02:09] <mineur[studying] > I never configured ltsp, but in general there's no better distro for getting something particular done... once you have all the tools installed it's a matter of configuration... I'm not familiar with ltsp configs tho... :(
[02:09] <william__> thank you
[02:09] <william__> i will have to figure it out someother way
[02:20] <dealer> I've just mounted a NTFS partition, and I'm only running Ubuntu troughout the CD, and I'm trying to put some files in it, but I dont got permission to  wright anything onto it
[02:20] <dealer> How do I make myself some access ?
[02:22] <andreasw> hi
[02:23] <aldelv> dealer probably mounted read only
[02:23] <MidMark> dealer: write to ntfs it's set off due to possible corruption
[02:24] <dealer> Is there anyway I can overrun this =
[02:24] <dealer> I need to put 2 windows install files on that drive
[02:24] <dealer> partition
[02:25] <dealer> I did a 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt -o uid=$(id-u)
[02:26] <MidMark> dealer: you can red ext2/3 partitions from windows
[02:26] <MidMark> this is safer
[02:26] <MidMark> dealer: do NOT mount in write mode
[02:26] <MidMark> you will destroy your data
[02:26] <dealer> ahh
[02:27] <dealer> thanks for the warning then ;)
[02:27] <MidMark> !ntfs
[02:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:27] <MidMark> there are some other projects like 3d and fuse but at your own risk
[02:27] <MidMark> !fuse
[02:27] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:27] <MidMark> !ntfs-3g
[02:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:30] <Martiini> hello. Anyone knows if I can automount all partitions read/write without editing fstab? If I use "autofs" ?
[02:30] <MidMark> dealer: better create a fat32 partition to swap data or use explore2fs for windows to read ext2/3 linux partitions
[02:30] <andres_> rar/zip prog for kubuntu ???? help
[02:30] <MidMark> !rar
[02:30] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:31] <MidMark> !zip
[02:31] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:32] <Martiini> excuse moir ... i havve questioooon , pleaase
[02:33] <dealer> Thanks for the help dudes!
[02:33] <Martiini> can I make ubuntu automount ..like knoppix
[02:33] <MidMark> Martiini: why you don't want to edit fastab?
[02:34] <Martiini> dont know .. just dont wanna :) ..
[02:34] <Martiini> will kubuntu mount partitions with autofs .. the way its done in knoppix?
[02:34] <lupine_85> it does here
[02:35] <dealer> I used a program, just when I've installed Kubuntu, witch automounted all my disks in  '/media/' rather nice :-D
[02:35] <Martiini> dealer ,  remember what it was called?
[02:35] <lupine_85> it "just does it" here
[02:36] <Martiini> mine doesnt
[02:36] <Martiini> you know .. the way knoppix mounts all and gives you option to make writable
[02:36] <dealer> Martiini: Sorry, I don't :(
[02:38] <andres_> thanks!!!!!!!!!!
[02:54] <Martiini> My life has no meaning
[02:54] <Martiini> Im gonna get suicidal in #kubuntu
[02:55] <Martiini> heh.. if I died .. noone would care
[02:56] <Martiini> people die every day
[02:58] <nyusziful> sziasztok
[02:58] <nyusziful> Are here hungarian people?
[02:59] <stdin> !hu
[02:59] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[02:59] <nyusziful> ok
[03:00] <lems> finns det ngon motsvarighet till frontpage i kde?
[03:01] <andreasw> !se
[03:01] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[03:02] <stdin> anyone good with udev rules?
[03:07] <andreasw> stdin: The only rule I ever created was for my usb disc ^^
[03:07] <Martiini> hmhh .. ive edited fstab .. but still dont mount
[03:07] <Martiini>  .. /dev/hda7	 /media/hda7     ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=et_EE.utf8 0       0
[03:08] <stdin> andreasw: all I want is to make my now scsi disks fall under the "disk" group again
[03:08] <stdin> Martiini: add "auto" to the options
[03:11] <endo602> how do i mount an extfs with all permissions>?
[03:12] <stdin> extfs?
[03:12] <endo602> e2
[03:12] <endo602> sorry
[03:12] <stdin> endo602: you mean ext2 or ext3 fs ?
[03:13] <RadeoN> hi ya guys.it's a nice day isn't it?
[03:13] <endo602> ext3
[03:13] <endo602> its ext3
[03:13] <stdin> endo602: permissions are stored on the filesystem for ext2/3, so it doesn't matter mow you mount it, the permissions will be read from the filesystem
[03:14] <andreasw> RadeoN: At least it doesn't rain ^^
[03:14] <endo602> how do i edit that
[03:14] <endo602> because its not letting me delete
[03:14] <RadeoN> yeah,hey andreasw where r u?
[03:14] <stdin> endo602: use sudo
[03:15] <andreasw> RadeoN: Germany and you?
[03:16] <RadeoN> oh my...i'm from Sri Lanka
[03:16] <endo602> how can i make so all users can delete?
[03:16] <andreasw> the world is small at least in IRC ^^
[03:16] <endo602> how can i make so all users can rename
[03:17] <DaSkreech> RadeoN: Not bad
[03:17] <RadeoN> what do u do andreasw
[03:17] <Lynoure> endo602: usually you only want to make things so that users in certain group can delete and rename. Not all of them.
[03:17] <RadeoN> i guess so DaSkreech
[03:18] <DaSkreech> endo602: Hello.
[03:18] <endo602> i want all
[03:18] <endo602> hello
[03:18] <endo602> its fine
[03:18] <endo602> on this disk
[03:18] <DaSkreech> endo602: What are you trying to do?
[03:18] <endo602> its just media
[03:18] <endo602> setup one of my dirsk so that all users can do what they want with it
[03:18] <andreasw> RadeoN: right now I am trying to waste some time in irc hrhr
[03:19] <DaSkreech> endo602: Do you understand Unix Permisions?
[03:19] <RadeoN> don't say like that
[03:19] <RadeoN> they need help,i need help
[03:19] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I do not think he'd be wanting what he says he want if he did...
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: Better to ask
[03:21] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I'm really curious about what you'll say if the answer is "yes" :)
[03:21] <endo602> DaSkreech, no
[03:21] <RadeoN> hey how can i play mp3 files on Kubuntu?
[03:22] <TehUni> RadeoN: amaroK
[03:22] <TehUni> or one of the many others
[03:22] <Martiini> RadeoN:  make sure you HAVE ALL codecs
[03:22] <andreasw> but you need mp3 support
[03:23] <Martiini> no matter how I edit fstab,, ntfs partitions dont mount
[03:23] <RadeoN> i have installed w32codecs but it didn't work
[03:23] <andreasw> RadeoN: you need libxine-extracodecs
[03:23] <Martiini> RadeoN:  , did u use easyubuntu, automatix
[03:23] <TehUni> the newest version of amarok installs them for you.
[03:23] <stdin> !mp3
[03:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:24] <DaSkreech> endo602: OK Hold on
[03:24] <Martiini> RadeoN:  go to http://ubuntuguide.org/  and start there
[03:24] <DaSkreech>  I take it that the Ubuntu Wiki doesn't havea page on Permissions :)
[03:24] <RadeoN> where i can download libxine-extracodecs
[03:25] <stdin> DaSkreech: not that I know of, but wikipedia does
[03:25] <Jucato> from the repositories.
[03:25] <Jucato> enable the multiverse section
[03:25] <stdin> !info libxine-extracodecs
[03:25] <endo602> ill check it out
[03:25] <DaSkreech> stdin: I wanted something more practical than an explanation
[03:25] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[03:25] <Jucato> !multiverse | RadeoN
[03:25] <ubotu> RadeoN: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:25] <DaSkreech> endo602: http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml
[03:25] <Martiini> hold on with your mp3-s now .., please
[03:25] <endo602> so i chmod the drive?
[03:26] <Xbehave> !firefox
[03:26] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:26] <Martiini> Ive edited my fstab in every possible way .. but ntfs partitions dont mount
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It's ubuntu-motu that controls ubotu ?
[03:26] <Xbehave> erm where is the firefox support channel is it on this irc or do i need to go find thiers?
[03:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. why?
[03:26] <endo602> daskreech can you give me an example out to use this for a folder?
[03:27] <DaSkreech> endo602: Did you read the page I just gave you?
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I wanted to ask if there is a factoid for unix permissions
[03:27] <Jucato> !permissions
[03:27] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Or rather if there should be
[03:27] <DaSkreech> >_<
[03:27] <Jucato> ^^^^^
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Lying Bot!!
[03:28] <DaSkreech> endo602: I'm sorry there is a better page
[03:28] <DaSkreech> endo602: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[03:28] <Martiini> oh great ,, uk and us teenies have conquered the channel
[03:28] <andreasw> Martiini: lol?
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Martiini: Can you mount the NTFS manually?
[03:29] <Martiini> they just dont mount
[03:29] <andreasw> Do you get any error message while trying to mount them?
[03:29] <Martiini> .. /dev/hda1	 /media/hda1     ntfs-3g    defaults,auto,locale=et_EE.utf8 0       0
[03:30] <DaSkreech> Martiini: No mount them manually :)
[03:30] <DaSkreech> and that ntfs-3g looks suspect :)
[03:30] <Jucato> !ntfs
[03:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:30] <stdin> !ntfs-3g
[03:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:31] <Martiini> aah, jaa, I CAN mount them manually ... so what gives
[03:33] <ubuntu_> qualche italiano?
[03:33] <stdin> !it
[03:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:33] <ubuntu_> thnks
[03:34] <ubuntu_> che versione posso usare su un hp pavillion dv 6146eu con vge ati
[03:34] <ubuntu_> vga
[03:35] <vge> i think you didint ment me
[03:36] <ubuntu_> che versione posso usare su un hp pavillion dv 6146eu con vga ati... il live cd non carica
[03:37] <stdin> !it | ubuntu_
[03:37] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:40] <DaSkreech> endo602: How are you?
[03:44] <andreasw> hmm music playback stopped again in amarok suddenly anybody else got that bug?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> andreasw: Only when streaming
[03:45] <andreasw> DaSkreech: I have that problem with every sound file but sometimes it takes a view hours until it happens again so its not so easy to reproduce it
[03:46] <DaSkreech> You have a few hours long sound file?
[03:46] <andreasw> DaSkreech: no I mean I can play music for a view hours in amarok with no problem but suddenly it hangs at some files which previously had been played very well
[03:47] <DaSkreech> andreasw: Does restarting the sound file start back sound?
[03:47] <andreasw> DaSkreech: and after that amarok GUI hangs and I have to kill it and restart it to play music again
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Ohhhh
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:47] <andreasw> DaSkreech: I think xine crashed somehow or maybe somthing else
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Sounds like it. Do you have any CLI apps that use xine?
[03:48] <andreasw> CLI?
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Command line
[03:50] <stdin> CLI = Command Line Interface (terminal/conso;e)
[03:50] <andreasw> ah ^^
[03:50] <stdin> *console
[03:50] <DaSkreech> endo602: Hello? :)
[03:50] <andreasw> ok we don't use that in german so I had no clue what you mean ^^
[03:51] <andreasw> DaSkreech: No at the moment only amarok uses xine
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:52] <andreasw> I already hat the problem with dapper
[03:52] <andreasw> had
[03:52] <andreasw> arg
[03:54] <DaSkreech> Have you asked in #amarok if anyone has reported something like hat
[03:54] <DaSkreech> It may be a sound driver as well
[03:55] <andreasw> I asked there 4 times and I never got any answer ^^
[03:56] <andreasw> The worst bugs are the ones you can't reproduce every time
[03:57] <andreasw> I also don't understand why Kubuntu changed my xorg.conf yesterday it detected a hardware change but I didn't change my hardware
[03:57] <mowgli_> hi, all, Ubuntu+KDE user here! plug-ins to be able to watch WMV and QUICKTIME movies, anyone can help?
[03:57] <andreasw> strange  ;)
[03:57] <andreasw> mowgli_: w32codecs
[03:57] <Jucato> !wmv | mowgli_
[03:57] <ubotu> mowgli_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <mowgli_> from Synaptic menu?
[03:58] <DaSkreech> mowgli_: read the site :)
[03:58] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[03:58] <Jucato> mowgli_: for WMV and WMA? no. read that site ^^^^
[03:58] <juan> everytime i open a new webpage kubuntu launches a new instance of firefox, the page merges into the existeing firefox but for 5-10 seconds or maybe more theres a new ff in the taskbar, any ideas on how to fix
[04:00] <endo602> DaSkreech, i just read that page
[04:00] <stdin> juan: that's "launch feedback" it's not actually a window
[04:00] <endo602> DaSkreech, seems to be just for files
[04:00] <endo602> not folders
[04:00] <DaSkreech> endo602: Directories are files
[04:00] <endo602> cool
[04:00] <DaSkreech> endo602: do a ls -l on a directory with sub directories
[04:01] <DaSkreech>  you will see it has teh same permissions
[04:01] <juan> stdin: can i get rid of it?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> endo602: The difference is that on a folder x means that you can go into the folder r means that you can see what is inside it and w means you can create new files inside of it
[04:03] <stdin> juan: maybe if you disable it in the menu entry, right click on the Firefox entry in the Kmenu, choose "Edit Item" and deselect the option
[04:04] <DaSkreech> endo602: If that makes sense to you :)
[04:04] <KomiaPoika> how do you undisplay the xdm error console?
[04:04] <endo602> yeah
[04:04] <endo602> how do i make it for all subfolders also?
[04:05] <juan> thx stdin
[04:05] <stdin> np
[04:07] <DaSkreech> endo602: how are you changing the permissons?
[04:07] <DaSkreech> on the command line?
[04:08] <endo602> yeah
[04:09] <hilda> hola
[04:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Blues!!
[04:09] <DaSkreech> endo602: chmod -R
[04:09] <BluesKaj> hey DaSkreech!
[04:10] <DaSkreech> endo602: I should probably teach you man while I'm at it
[04:10] <DaSkreech> endo602: If you have a command you wnat to know more about you can read the Manual on it
[04:10] <DaSkreech> so for chmod try typing man chmod
[04:11] <DaSkreech> You will get a list of all the options etc
[04:11] <endo602> ill doing this \
[04:11] <endo602> but it isnt working
[04:11] <DaSkreech> to exit the manual page press q for <Q>uit
[04:11] <DaSkreech> endo602: You used a Capital R?
[04:11] <endo602> still wont let me create
[04:11] <endo602> can you give me an example
[04:12] <endo602> becaue i am doing this
[04:12] <DaSkreech> endo602: paste the line you are typing so I can see it
[04:12] <endo602> sudo chmod 777 /media/hdd1
[04:13] <DaSkreech> endo602: Ah. What kind of drive is hdd1 ?
[04:13] <Martiini> I have exatly the same fstab lines for /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda7 .. but only hda1 mounts ... mtab says that both are mounted ...
[04:13] <fuel> hi how do i change the resolution of my screen ??? its showing only 1024x768 at top
[04:13] <fuel> i tried the one provided in the control center
[04:13] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[04:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:13] <endo602> ext3
[04:13] <stdin> you can't chmod a filesystem
[04:13] <Martiini> fuel .. go to ubuntuforums.org and read about xorg.conf
[04:13] <fuel> ok
[04:14] <DaSkreech> endo602: Oh.. Hmm
[04:14] <stdin> !xconfig | fuel
[04:14] <ubotu> fuel: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[04:14] <DaSkreech> endo602: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/hdd1
[04:14] <Martiini> fuel .. there you go
[04:15] <Martiini> I have exatly the same fstab lines for /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda7 .. but only hda1 mounts ... mtab says that both are mounted ...
[04:15] <endo602> still access denied
[04:15] <endo602> when i try and rename folder
[04:15] <stdin> endo602: easiest way is to make a directory on the filesystem and make it writable to all
[04:15] <endo602> root can do it but others cant
[04:15] <endo602> ?
[04:15] <endo602> i did that doo
[04:15] <endo602> too
[04:15] <endo602> didnt work
[04:16] <Martiini> endo602:  have you set correct permissions
[04:16] <DaSkreech> endo602: What are you trying to do make it writeable to all?
[04:16] <stdin> endo602: not on /media/hdd1, on something like /media/hdd1/shares
[04:17] <endo602> i did that
[04:17] <endo602> sudo chmod -R 777 /media/hdd1/share
[04:17] <seaLne> has anyone tried to compile qtopia 4.2 in kubuntu? i'm wondering if i'm missing dependancies
[04:17] <Martiini> endo602: thats google question .. or ubuntuforums.org
[04:18] <endo602> do i have to do anything else to make it work
[04:18] <Martiini> seaLne: doesnt it say if it misses dependencies when you compile
[04:19] <DaSkreech> :-D
[04:19] <seaLne> no its nothing obvious
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Gnewsense is releasing a KDE version
[04:19] <seaLne> cool
[04:19] <endo602> DaSkreech, do i have to check google?
[04:19] <endo602> or when i restart the system will it work
[04:19] <DaSkreech> endo602: does it work now?
[04:20] <sinbad33_> anyone know how well automatix works in kubuntu ??
[04:20] <seaLne> unfortunatly my scroll back has now lost the error as i just tried again
[04:20] <stdin> !automatix
[04:20] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:20] <DaSkreech> sinbad33_: it has kubuntu support
[04:20] <stdin> sinbad33_: read ^^^
[04:20] <DaSkreech> sinbad33_: Easyubuntu is probably better
[04:20] <stdin> don't use either
[04:21] <DaSkreech> endo602: If it doens't work now then it's probably not going to work when you reboot
[04:22] <Martiini> !WorksForMe
[04:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:22] <Martiini> heh
[04:22] <Martiini> makes sense
[04:22] <endo602> next question
[04:23] <endo602> when i bind a folder
[04:23] <endo602> will it bind subfolders too?
[04:23] <DaSkreech> bind?
[04:23] <stdin> endo602: yep, the directory and everything in it
[04:23] <stdin> endo602: (that isn't a mountpoint)
[04:23] <DaSkreech> stdin: What bind?
[04:24] <endo602> do i have to bind it everytime i change something or is it constatnly updating
[04:24] <stdin> DaSkreech: it's a function of mount, you can "bind" a directory to more than one place
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Interesting
[04:24] <DaSkreech>  so it turns up multiple times in the FHS?
[04:24] <stdin> endo602: it updated automatically
[04:25] <endo602> cool
[04:25] <stdin> DaSkreech: exactly
[04:25] <endo602> can i bind to more than one place?
[04:25] <DaSkreech> stdin: can I put different permissions on different bind/mount points?
[04:26] <Martiini> does it make sense .. that dev/hda1 mounts but hda7 doesnt .. when both have same fstab lines
[04:26] <endo602> for example: --bind /media/hdd1 /home/user/1 and /share/2
[04:26] <stdin> DaSkreech: hmm, don't think so, but I'm not sure. I think it takes the permissions from the parent
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Martiini: Possibly
[04:27] <stdin> usage: mount -o bind /media/hda3 /home/me/music
[04:28] <endo602> -o ?
[04:28] <stdin> -o = options
[04:29] <stdin> "man mount" or "man:/mount" in konqi for more on mount :)
[04:30] <ctqucl> When I use the kate,I use a plugin to autospell the word,my question is how can I insert the word from autospell by keyboard only?
[04:30] <endo602> just a little confused
[04:30] <stdin> you mean use the right click menu from the keyboard ?
[04:31] <ctqucl> no, left click
[04:31] <stdin> left click? no clue
[04:32] <ctqucl> the autospell give me the choose,I want to choose It by keyboard
[04:32] <stdin> yeah, I get the choices with right click
[04:32] <endo602> ok
[04:33] <endo602> from trial and error
[04:33] <endo602> i figure you have to bind all subdirs
[04:33] <ctqucl> o
[04:33] <stdin> only if the subdors are mount points
[04:33] <endo602> ?
[04:33] <endo602> they arent
[04:33] <endo602> but its not working any other way
[04:34] <endo602> only parent is working
[04:34] <ingerasu> sal
[04:35] <stdin> endo602: eg: I have another system on a partition hda3, and I have files I want in /media/hda3/home/me/my-things, so I do "mount -o bind /media/hda3/home/me/my-things /home/me/mythings" and all the subdirs are now in ~/mythings now
[04:36] <endo602>  ok cool
[04:36] <endo602> technical question
[04:37] <endo602> if you you modify ~/mythings will it modify on the other partition/?
[04:37] <sinbad33_> stdin, thx i'll steer clear of automatix for now :)
[04:38] <endo602> if you bind this /media/hda3/home/me/my-things to another location can they both modify it?
[04:38] <stdin> endo602: yes, it's as if it was mounted at ~/mythings
[04:38] <stdin> endo602: yes, again
[04:38] <endo602> for somereason it is not working for me
[04:38] <endo602> i did that and placed it into ~/hdd1
[04:39] <endo602> and didnt show up at other binds
[04:40] <stdin> endo602: It happens when I do it here, I just bound it to another dir and it shows the content
[04:41] <endo602> aha
[04:41] <doudoo> hello all
[04:41] <endo602> well right now most is working
[04:41] <mika__> hi all
[04:41] <ctd_> hi
[04:41] <endo602> i just have get it all straight
[04:41] <doudoo> could somebody help me with two issues?
[04:41] <endo602> stdin
[04:41] <endo602> can i pm
[04:41] <endo602> ?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> !ask
[04:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:42] <doudoo> oki
[04:42] <doudoo> first
[04:42] <ctqucl> o enter key
[04:42] <doudoo> i feel that my laptop is booting really slow
[04:43] <doudoo> and i think it's slowing down while checking network connection
[04:43] <DaSkreech> How slow is it booting?
[04:43] <gdiebel> doudoo: using NetworkManager?
[04:43] <doudoo> 2min
[04:43] <sinbad33_> case o teh slowy lapbooty bluesss
[04:43] <doudoo> with a core 2 duo
[04:43] <doudoo> 2GHz
[04:43] <doudoo> :)
[04:43] <DaSkreech> And which Kubuntu are you using?
[04:43] <doudoo> edgy
[04:44] <gdiebel> doudoo: I have the same speed processor on my laptop. takes ~40 secs for full boot
[04:44] <Pensacola> how to get a truly transparent konsole?
[04:45] <doudoo> on the image bar progress in boot
[04:45] <doudoo> it's stop after the forth bar
[04:45] <doudoo> for a while and then restart quiet quick
[04:45] <ctd_> Guys , what is the process to change the default browser ?
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> Pensacola, i dont this that is possible without something like xgl / compiz
[04:46] <gdiebel> doudoo: using NetworkManager? or using proprietary video? which wireless chipset?
[04:46] <Pensacola> ok thx
[04:47] <doudoo> yes i'm using network manager and latest nvidia driver for my quadro nvs and my wireless chip is a intel 3945abg
[04:47] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: kde menu, system settings, default application, browser
[04:47] <doudoo> sorry i'm not using network manager
[04:47] <doudoo> but wlassistant
[04:49] <gdiebel> doodou: post your dmesg to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:49] <ctd_> thanks Mineur.
[04:49] <doodou> gdiebel : can I PM you ?
[04:49] <mineur[studying] > no problem
[04:49] <gdiebel> doodou: go ahead
[04:52] <doodou> /info
[04:53] <doodou> gdiebel : dont you see my pm?
[04:55] <Valmarko> I whish I could find a program like DVDshrink or DVD Decrypter :)
[04:55] <Authority> what is the kubuntu laptop power manager program called?
[04:56] <Valmarko> Perhaps using emulation ?
[04:56] <Minataku> Valmarko: libdvdcss
[04:56] <Minataku> Or something like that
[04:57] <Valmarko> Ok but... if I wish to copy a movie to HD... what program should I use ?
[04:57] <mineur[studying] > do the colors of your nicks in this window have a special meaning?
[04:58] <mineur[studying] > using Konversation bw :)
[04:58] <mineur[studying] > btw
[04:58] <stdin> no, konversation just uses them to look pretty :P
[04:58] <stdin> and you can turn it off
[04:58] <Authority> mineur[studying] : helps you differentiate between speakers
[04:59] <Minataku> Valmarko: I'm assuming you're making your legal backup copy provided for you via fair use laws? :3
[04:59] <mineur[studying] > ok, I was wondering.... :) because I didn't see any significant difference lol
[04:59] <mineur[studying] > nah it's ok, it can stay this way, but if it has any real use... I'd like to know :)
[05:00] <Valmarko> I would like to run a movie from Hard disk, for example. Is there a program that can make a copy of a encrypted movie ?
[05:00] <mineur[studying] > ripdvd
[05:01] <mineur[studying] > or dvdrip not sure
[05:01] <mineur[studying] > hang on lol
[05:01] <Minataku> I know there are I just don't know of any
[05:01] <Minataku> lol
[05:01] <mineur[studying] > dvdrip :)
[05:01] <Minataku> Why rip it to the HDD anyway?
[05:01] <Minataku> You've got it on the DVD just watch it from that and save 3 or 4GB
[05:01] <Valmarko> Umm... sometimes it's useful
[05:02] <stdin> or VLC
[05:02] <mineur[studying] > copying borrowed and rented movies eh :p
[05:02] <stdin> or dd could work :P
[05:02] <ctd_> How to read/modify the region code on the DVD drive ?
[05:02] <Valmarko> lol
[05:02] <Valmarko> regionset
[05:02] <Minataku> ctd_: Don't bother, leave it at 1 and use libdvdcss
[05:02] <Minataku> You're only allowed so many changes via HW anyway
[05:02] <cloakable> :p
[05:03] <ctd_> How to get libdvdcss ?
[05:03] <Minataku> Hey, interoperability (as of this moment, anyway) is provisioned in the DMCA
[05:03] <Minataku> If they won't let it work on Linux, we're allowed to make it work
[05:03] <mineur[studying] > mostly 5 changes, but some drivers allow you to flash them... then you can change it again for 5 times.... but just leave it at 1 :)
[05:03] <Valmarko> is there a way to unpack rpm files ?
[05:04] <stdin> !rpm
[05:04] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:04] <mineur[studying] > !urpmi
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urpmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <mineur[studying] > !urpme
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urpme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <mineur[studying] > hmm ok not then :)
[05:04] <ctd_> libdvdcss ?
[05:04] <Valmarko> alien... but it's dangerous... better nor try
[05:04] <Minataku> !libdvdcss
[05:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:05] <mineur[studying] > why you want to unpack rpm's in the first place???
[05:05] <stdin> Valmarko: you can use alien to make a tar.gz of the rpm, then unpack that
[05:05] <Minataku> I say ignore any scary legal warnings, more than likely if they've targeted you by now you're already screwed anyway
[05:05] <Valmarko> ok. tnks
[05:06] <Minataku> Since according to my house rep I oppose DRM and anti-fair use for no reason other than I'm a lousy theif
[05:06] <Valmarko> ctd_, get libdvdread3 and then : sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh     if you have version 6.10
[05:06] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats here is all the info for dvd, mp3 and any other restricted format you might want
[05:06] <dope> what's the difference between port forwarding and port triggering
[05:07] <mineur[studying] > port triggering is just an on and off switch for port forwarding
[05:07] <mineur[studying] > you trigger a certain port... and this event will cause another port to open
[05:08] <dope> hmm
[05:08] <ctd_> Valmarko , where do I get libdvdread3 ?
[05:08] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: check the link I gave you
[05:08] <stdin> !info libdvdread3
[05:08] <ubotu> libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB
[05:09] <Valmarko> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3. Enable Universe if necessary. Backports too
[05:09] <mineur[studying] > brb
[05:09] <ctd_> thanks folks. lemme try this.
[05:09] <sinbad33_> anyone know if Firestarter firewall is any good ??
[05:09] <Minataku> mineur[studying] : He wants it done the Windows way, it seems, "Don't give me directions just give me what I want"
[05:09] <Valmarko> bahh... guarddog is the one
[05:09] <mothy> hey does anyone use beryl with kubuntu?
[05:10] <Valmarko> why beryl. kde is already an eye-candy :)
[05:10] <mothy> ehh
[05:10] <Valmarko> ;)
[05:10] <Minataku> If my eyes had teeth, KDE would make them all scummy and plaquey
[05:11] <Minataku> Still better than Vista
[05:11] <mineur[studying] > Minataku: seems so, I wonder why I'm doing all the googling for someone else... think I'm gonna ask fees for it :p
[05:11] <Minataku> Which would immediately rot them right out
[05:11] <mothy> i can't get beryl to work with the multiple desktop thingy in the toolbar
[05:11] <mothy> the windows dont span over it correctly
[05:11] <Valmarko> well, kde is better loojing then gnome. My opinion, ...
[05:11] <mothy> works fine in gnome
[05:11] <Minataku> GNOME is a festering pile of crap that nobody should ever use in any circumstance
[05:12] <Minataku> IMO, anyway
[05:12] <ctd_> libdvdread3 is already the newest version.
[05:12] <ctd_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:12] <DaSkreech> ctd_: Apt-get it
[05:12] <mothy> wow thats nice
[05:12] <mothy> this channel rulz
[05:12] <Valmarko> ctd_, get libdvdread3 and then : sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh     if you have version 6.10
[05:12] <arrautza> hi
[05:13] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: dude, play dvd's follow these steps..... one click further then the previous link I gave you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[05:13] <ctd_> so do you mean I just run sudo apt-get or something
[05:13] <ctd_> ok ok , i will RTFM
[05:13] <Minataku> ctd_: Since you already have libdvdread3
[05:13] <arrautza> where & how can i get/install wine?
[05:13] <Minataku> sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:13] <Minataku> !wine
[05:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:13] <mineur[studying] > it's not even the manual.... it's copy/paste 2 commands and you're done :)
[05:14] <sinbad33_> can anyone recommend a cd/dvd burning program for use with kubuntu ??
[05:14] <Minataku> k3b
[05:14] <ctd_> :) thx
[05:14] <mineur[studying] > k3b
[05:14] <Minataku> !k3b | sinbad33_
[05:14] <ubotu> sinbad33_: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[05:14] <Minataku> Not that you should be USING GNOME
[05:14] <Minataku> ;3
[05:14] <sinbad33_> ohh goody thx MinMin
[05:14] <Minataku> XD
[05:14] <Valmarko> Minataku, great jog ! :)
[05:14] <mineur[studying] > seems that everyone agrees on k3b :)
[05:14] <Valmarko> job
[05:14] <Minataku> Valmarko: And I'm a Gentoo user, not a Kubuntu user
[05:14] <Minataku> lol
[05:14] <DaSkreech> cdrdao :)
[05:15] <Minataku> I just came in here because a friend tipped me off to someone who had free stuff to give away XD
[05:15] <Valmarko> That's why you're soo fast
[05:15] <arrautza> thnk
[05:15] <Minataku> Myself, I use cdrecord to burn CD/DVDs, or rather soon it's FOSS replacement
[05:15] <mineur[studying] > I don't have enough patience to compile my stuff :d
[05:16] <Minataku> Since the original cdrecord dev came down with a case of acute assholism
[05:16] <mineur[studying] > lol
[05:16] <sinbad33_>   ..,~~c=;3
[05:16] <Valmarko> neither I. Even if I wanted...
[05:17] <Minataku> Sure it's his right to close up his code and make it non-free... but then it's OUR right to flip him off, tell him to go to hell then fork his code from the last free version and carry on without him :D
[05:17] <sinbad33_> Min, right on!
[05:17] <Minataku> :3
[05:18] <sinbad33_> Min speaks *big* troof
[05:18] <sinbad33_> trooth
[05:18] <jontec> is there anyway to have dpkg catch if the kubuntu-desktop package is removed and abort installation?
[05:18] <jontec> installation/removal of whatever is causing that...
[05:19] <sinbad33_> Minataku, do u use a firewall with kubuntu yet ?
[05:19] <Minataku> jontec: Got a case of retard dependencies?
[05:19] <Minataku> sinbad33_: I use a hardware firewall
[05:19] <Minataku> Namely, a very tight-assed router
[05:20] <sinbad33_> ahh ok which software fw wud u recommend ?
[05:20] <Minataku> Personally, I wouldn't recommend a software firewall
[05:20] <bifi> hi
[05:20] <Minataku> As for actually answering the question, I can't
[05:20] <jontec> Minataku: well I have a friend who did it... and I just about did it (but I always examine the details of the dpkg part from in adept), it'd just be really nice :D so yeah, retard dependencies
[05:20] <arrautza> which is the official repository of wine??
[05:20] <Minataku> Since I've never used a software firewall
[05:20] <Minataku> lol
[05:21] <bifi> can i ask you a question?
[05:21] <Minataku> sinbad33_: I'd say wait around for someone else to be able to answer XD
[05:21] <DaSkreech> arrautza: It's on thier site wine HQ
[05:21] <Minataku> Or I can try this
[05:21] <Minataku> !firewall
[05:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:21] <Minataku> There ya go!
[05:21] <arrautza> the link you gve gives me only the unofficial
[05:21] <ctd_> !info
[05:21] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[05:21] <jontec> !ask | bifi
[05:21] <ubotu> bifi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:21] <Minataku> lol
[05:21] <arrautza> thnk
[05:22] <bifi> ehm i instaled the latest nvidia driver and tried to run call of duty 1.the game crashes and i get a opengl error
[05:22] <bifi> what can i do?
[05:22] <Minataku> sinbad33_: I'd suggest getting a cheap thrift-store computer and making it into an OpenBSD firewall but that's a bit advanced
[05:22] <Minataku> (Even for myself)
[05:22] <Minataku> XD
[05:22] <fdoving> Minataku: lots of 'hardware' firewalls are small linux/bsd firewalls. there is no reason a 'hardware' firewall would be better than a 'software' one.. it simply just occupies less space. :)
[05:23] <elias_> how to get the best GL performance for games like gltron assuming I have AIGLX with nvidia on EDGY?
[05:23] <Minataku> fdoving: Ah, well I do speak from an intranet perspective
[05:23] <Minataku> I have multiple systems hooked up via my router
[05:23] <ctd_> Any software that can ignore read errors on scratched DVDs ?
[05:23] <Minataku> So a hardware firewall via the router just makes sense
[05:23] <bifi> i wanna know if there is a way to update/optimize opengl
[05:23] <ctd_> !xresprobe
[05:24] <ubotu> xresprobe: X Resolution Probe. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.24 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:24] <Minataku> !opengl
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Minataku> What?!
[05:24] <bifi> :/
[05:24] <Minataku> Bad bot, no cookie
[05:24] <Minataku> !nvidia
[05:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <Minataku> Hm, that doesn't help...
[05:24] <Minataku> !gl
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Minataku> !glx
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Minataku> Bah
[05:25] <bifi> i thought opengl will be instaled when i intsal the latets driver but call of duty still crashes
[05:25] <fdoving> !fishing
[05:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:25] <Minataku> bifi: What's the specific error?
[05:25] <bifi> could not load open gl subsystem
[05:25] <bifi> or something
[05:25] <Minataku> I'm not abusing the bot, I'm trying to see if it has any information
[05:25] <Minataku> bifi: Try to run "glxgears"
[05:25] <Minataku> Tell me what that does
[05:26] <bifi> howto?
[05:26] <Minataku> bifi: Open a terminal and type glxgears then hit enter
[05:26] <bifi> ok ;)
[05:27] <bifi> have to go to my linux mashine and try it
[05:27] <bifi> brb
[05:27] <stefan> does someone know what I have to add website conf that I have another charset as utf8
[05:27] <stefan> what i have to add
[05:27] <stefan> I find only thing for whole server but I need it foe one website
[05:28] <stefan> can someone help?
[05:28] <ctd_> Thanks everyone , now I can play European and US DVDs both without changing the region code. KUTGW
[05:28] <ctd_> Bye
[05:29] <mineur[studying] > finally read the manual eh :p
[05:29] <elias_> ubotu: found this: By default Composite is turned on and this will prevent OpenGL from working.
[05:29] <blue|palm> Help with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x64
[05:29] <elias_> ubotu: do you know, is there any way to run aiglx beryl effects without compositing on?
[05:29] <dope> you know what would cause a major increase in linux users?
[05:29] <stefan> !addcharset
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addcharset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <sinbad33_> wat??
[05:29] <blue|palm> games on linux
[05:29] <dope> better support for high end games
[05:30] <blue|palm> hehe
[05:30] <dope> :)
[05:30] <endo602> how does binding work with disk space?
[05:30] <sinbad33_> !mad increase in linux users
[05:30] <dope> works pretty good
[05:30] <endo602> :)
[05:30] <bifi> Minataku may i can comeback later?(about 2 hours) i wanna instal kubuntu on this pc
[05:30] <endo602> keeps saying my drive is full
[05:30] <blue|palm> Help with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x64
[05:30] <sinbad33_> ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)  <<--  ??
[05:30] <endo602> but it isnt
[05:30] <endo602> how does it work exactly
[05:30] <Minataku> bifi: Sure
[05:30] <bifi> ok
[05:31] <bifi> well i dl the iso file(hope 6.06 is tha latest version) and come back after intaling
[05:31] <blue|palm> 6.10 latest
[05:32] <endo602> dope, how does the disk space work with binding
[05:32] <bifi> instal n update blah
[05:32] <bifi> :)
[05:32] <dope> no idea what binding is, sorry
[05:32] <endo602> the bindined drive doesnt get the bits of info right?
[05:32] <blue|palm> somebody Help with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x64
[05:32] <endo602> just the source
[05:32] <borie> do u have an asus wl-107G wifi card, & do u use WPA ? i can't manage to connect with WPA with knetworkmanager or wpasupplicant...
[05:32] <dope> sudo apt-get install windowsxp
[05:32] <endo602> :)
[05:32] <borie> my AP is WPA (TKIP + AES)
[05:32] <dope> i'm actually on xp right now but shhhh don't let anyone know
[05:32] <fdoving> endo602: the bound device will report exactly the same as teh source of the bind.
[05:33] <endo602> ouch
[05:33] <endo602> that is no good
[05:33] <endo602> it will take up disc space then
[05:33] <blue|palm> im on xp.... coz i cant get kubuntu to boot :(
[05:33] <fdoving> endo602: no it won't.
[05:33] <endo602> its saying that it does
[05:33] <endo602> keeps on saying diskspace full
[05:34] <dope> blue|palm: why can't you get it to boot?
[05:34] <dope> oh amd64
[05:35] <endo602> how do i move files to a different device?
[05:35] <dope> i'd say just go with the 32 bit one
[05:35] <dope> that's what i did
[05:35] <blue|palm> it installs succesfully... but when you remove the live cd and try to boot from disk then nothing happens
[05:35] <sinbad33_> rock rock rocK  this channel   r o c k s
[05:35] <endo602> i mounted the device
[05:35] <blue|palm> oh
[05:35] <blue|palm> and that worked :)
[05:35] <endo602> and when i move the mount
[05:35] <endo602> seems to be filling up the source drive
[05:35] <dope> nothing happens? the bootloader doesn't come up?
[05:35] <blue|palm> no, grub pops up and gives me the correct options, but when i select kubuntu then nothing happens
[05:36] <dope> screen is just black?
[05:36] <fdoving> endo602: example: i make /bind and /boot/bind, then i bind /bind to /boot/bind. df -ah shows that /boot/bind has the same free space as /bind
[05:36] <blue|palm> well a blue "KUBUNTU" pops up and then nothing happens :(
[05:36] <blue|palm> ive left it for a looong time
[05:36] <dope> try reinstalling
[05:36] <dope> or install the 32 bit one
[05:36] <blue|palm> tried that
[05:36] <blue|palm> oh ok
[05:36] <endo602> this is weird
[05:36] <blue|palm> What does happen is that it goes to the shell
[05:37] <dope> i just stuck with the 32bit one cause people said it'd cause less trouble with compatible apps
[05:37] <endo602> see i mounted my hdd2
[05:37] <blue|palm> Busybox
[05:37] <endo602> and then bound hdd2 to hdd1/2
[05:37] <endo602> now hdd1 says its full
[05:37] <blue|palm> and it says "cant access tty; jobcontrol turned off"
[05:37] <endo602> but all the information is on hdd2
[05:37] <dope> never seen that
[05:37] <dope> try the 32bit one :)
[05:37] <blue|palm> ill try the 32 bit one
[05:38] <blue|palm> is it better to dload ubuntu and then install kde? or go kubuntu?
[05:39] <endo602> fdoving
[05:39] <endo602> you get that?
[05:40] <blue|palm> whats the general opinion on kubuntu vs openSUSE?
[05:40] <fdoving> endo602: hmm.. what's the command you use to bind?
[05:40] <endo602> mount --bind
[05:40] <fdoving> endo602: strange. works for me.
[05:42] <parsek> Is it still ok to install the old kubuntu 5.10, i have an odd video problem with these newer ones and i cant figure it out, worked fine with 5.10, so is there any reason i should not istall 5.10??
[05:43] <blue|palm> is it better to dload ubuntu and then install kde? or go kubuntu?
[05:43] <Lynoure> blue|palm: If you know you want KDE, Kubuntu leaves you with less things you do not need or want
[05:43] <blue|palm> im not sure to be honest
[05:44] <parsek> is there any reason "why" i should not...
[05:44] <Lynoure> blue|palm: Not sure that you want KDE or not sure of what I said?
[05:44] <blue|palm> not sure if i want to use kde
[05:44] <blue|palm> ive never used it seriously before...
[05:45] <Jucato> is there a way I can add or make a new Paper Size to the choices in kprinter? or... how do I print with a custom paper size?
[05:45] <dope> it's fairly simple and straight forward
[05:45] <Lynoure> blue|palm: Then get ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop   or the other way around
[05:45] <blue|palm> oh... i didnt know that you can go the otherway round...
[05:45] <Lynoure> blue|palm: you can get gnome for kubuntu too, it's not like you are bound for life :)
[05:45] <blue|palm> lol, thanks :)
[05:46] <Lynoure> blue|palm: You use a Palm device, by any chance?
[05:46] <blue|palm> no, why?
[05:46] <parsek> Is there any reason why I shouldnt install the 5.10 version???? (with 6.06 or 6.10 i have a video bug, what i cant work out)
[05:46] <fdoving> parsek: 5.10 will reach end-of-life (end of support and security updates) in few months.
[05:46] <Lynoure> blue|palm: Just guessing based on the nick.
[05:46] <blue|palm> oh... theres a really funny reason for the nick :)
[05:47] <blue|palm> but it has nothing to do with palm tops at all
[05:47] <Lynoure> blue|palm: :)
[05:47] <blue|palm> I never saw it like that...
[05:47] <blue|palm> Is adapt an update utility?
[05:47] <blue|palm> for the os itself as well?
[05:48] <cloakable> blue|palm: you mean adept?
[05:48] <Lynoure> blue|palm: yes and no, but if you prefer the commandline tools, those are mostly fine too.
[05:48] <blue|palm> thanks
[05:48] <Jucato> adept_updater, adept_notifier, adept_installer, adept_manager
[05:48] <parsek> Is there any way to first intall 5.10 and then upgrade to 6.10 or 6.06 and still keep the old video driver stuff??? (xorg.conf anf all those kinds of things)
[05:49] <parsek> *and
[05:49] <Lynoure> blue|palm: at least from dapper to edgy, it was not good for upgrading to edgy and one had to use commandline tools for that. Maybe this has changed in Edgy
[05:49] <kjdis> Anyone know of any quirks when installing nvidia binary drivers on Kubuntu?  I have done this on Debian, and I also did it back on Kubuntu 5.10, but on this fresh install I just can't get them to install, I am using the module assistant
[05:50] <kjdis> "nvidia" is never available in the list of drivers for X, and if I modprobe -v nvidia, I get "error installing", however I can directly insmod it, and the kernel messages show it's installed, I don't get it
[05:51] <manu_> hi everybody
[05:51] <blue|palm> thanks everyone, cya
[05:53] <manu_> i just wanted to know with which tool i can make easily backups, some time ago i used rdiff-backup and saved whole partitions, but i only want to save important files like the "look and feel" (kde) and own installed programs (with aptitude and without apt)
[05:53] <manu_> i dont have so many space for saving everytime some gig for partitions^^
[05:54] <fdoving> manu_: have you tried 'keep' ?
[05:54] <fdoving> !away > hawai`i
[05:57] <Pensacola> what folder does kubuntu read it's screensavers from?
[05:58] <manu_> fdoving: no but i have seen it in the menu, do you know whre i can find a detailed howto in german?
[05:59] <peder_> hail hitler
[05:59] <fdoving> manu_: not sure about german.. i'll check.
[05:59] <fdoving> peder_: not fun, behave please.
[05:59] <peder_> okey sorry
[06:01] <Pensacola> I have a binary for a cool screensaver but no idea where to put it :s
[06:01] <manu_> thx fdoving :)
[06:06] <peder_> cant you read an english manual?
[06:06] <hatta> english comes with a manual?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Pensacola,  a binary? from where?
[06:07] <Pensacola> I compiled it :)
[06:07] <Pensacola> but now I don't know where to put it
[06:07] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/    - what is this?
[06:08] <n0ne> !savage
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about savage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <fdoving> manu_: can't find a manual even in english.
[06:09] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ pls help
[06:09] <manu_> peder_: i can read english but i fell saver in english ;)
[06:09] <manu_> *feel
[06:10] <fdoving> n0ne: what are you trying to do when you get this error?
[06:10] <n0ne> i'm trying to play Savage
[06:10] <manu_> fdoving: another question i get an GPG error while updateing with apt-get....what could be wrong, i think last update was a week ago (had to do much)
[06:11] <fdoving> manu_: are you using 3rd party repositories?
[06:11] <n0ne> fdoving, have any ideas?
[06:11] <manu_> fdoving: only wine ones, and they are for ubuntu, i show you the line
[06:12] <fdoving> n0ne: no, i don't even know what Savage is.
[06:12] <manu_> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprft werden weil der zugehrige ffentliche Schlssel nicht zur Verfgung steht: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[06:12] <manu_> W: Sie mchten vielleicht apt-get update aufrufen, um diese Probleme zu lsen
, it's a game
[06:12] <manu_> its in german, but perhaps you know it because of the syntax of the sentences
[06:12] <manu_> ^^
[06:12] <andreasw> hi
[06:13] <fdoving> manu_: that's the problem then. you didn't import the gpg key used to signe the wine archive packages.
[06:13] <manu_> fdoving: but i made also updates without any error (i think, its some days ago)
[06:14] <manu_> fdoving: how to solve the problem? and where can i read something about GPG....enlish link deasnt matter
[06:14] <fdoving> manu_: i'd go back to the site where you found the wine repository, they probably have a hotwo to add the key to your key-ring.
[06:15] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ <- pls help me :)
[06:15] <manu_> fdoving: thx i'll look for it
[06:16] <manu_> another little question on german ubuntu site (ubuntuusers.de) they wrote about  2 big bugs in openoffice (word doc files) and acrobat reader plugin for firefox, do you know something about it?
[06:17] <fdoving> sorry, i don't use firefox, nor do i use openoffice much.
[06:17] <Tm_T> Kpdf <3
[06:17] <fdoving> kpdf with the poppler patches is.. not very good at printing.
[06:18] <Tm_T> Dunno, don't have printer here atm.
[06:18] <mineur[studying] > openoffice crashes when you click on an image or something... I think I read that somewhere.... but on my laptop here I don't use openoffice that much
[06:19] <mineur[studying] > so never tried it :)
[06:19] <mineur[studying] > hmm I'm not studying anymore :)
[06:20] <parsek> Can anybody tell me how can i get the toolbars back, i took them somehow off (fullscreen mode?) and i dont know what button to press to get them back???
[06:20] <parsek> KPDF
[06:21] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/
[06:21] <parsek> heh, i forgot to say that, so in kpdf
[06:21] <mineur> parsek: ctrl + m
[06:22] <fdoving> or ctrl+shift+f
[06:22] <fdoving> (that is to exit fullscreen mode).
[06:22] <parsek> THX, ctrl+ m worked, then i just exited the fulscreen mode
[06:22] <mineur> btw it's a kde feature to hide the menubar :)
[06:22] <mineur> you can do that in any app :)
[06:23] <parsek> good to know
[06:23] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ <- pls help me :)
[06:23] <mineur> I'm off for dinner
[06:24] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  you are trying to run it as root when you are logged in as user or somthing. i am guessing
 yea, running as a root in kde
[06:24] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  thats your problem then.
 why? maybe u'll explain me?
[06:25] <Valmarko> I've just installed alien but I dont know if I'm using it correctly. Well, the program made a deb package and I installed the application with no errors. the problem is : the system cant open it. The little icon rotates, rotates and... nothing
[06:25] <Dr_willis> well #1 - why would you run a game as root.. #2 - the root user dosent have permission to access the desktop (is why its not working)
[06:25] <fdoving> n0ne: by default only the user running the graphical environment is allowed to connect to it (start applications).
[06:25] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  thats what kdesu, or sux, or some other tools are used for.
[06:26] <fdoving> n0ne: you can also give root permission to connect to the graphical environment, if you really want to run the game as root, tip 4 at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FrodeDoeving/Tips
[06:27] <n0ne> u mean i have to run it not as a root?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> why would you want to run it as root...
[06:27] <Dr_willis> unless you need it as a server...
[06:28] <Dr_willis> i installed savage in my users home dir. its a nifty little game.. gets a little annoying at times.
[06:28] <n0ne> thx, i'll try it now
[06:28] <andreasw> !rm
[06:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:29] <BluesKaj> hey gents , i installed nicotine , but it won't launch unless i use the cd to file cmd and./nicotine to launch ...what am I missing in the install?
[06:29] <andreasw> !real media
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Valmarko> Does the command alien require some special parameter before the rpm file ?
[06:29] <andreasw> I have installed w32codecs but amarok can't stream real media files any idea?
[06:29] <BluesKaj> !realplayer
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Valmarko> maybe libxine-extracodecs ?
[06:30] <andreasw> Already installed + w32codecs
[06:30] <andreasw> your pages only say the same
[06:31] <BluesKaj> maybe opening and config amarok ?
[06:32] <andreasw> and where should I config real media in amarok?
[06:33] <andreasw> It normally should play everything I have a codec for
[06:33] <kjdis> Has anyone used the "Debian" method with module assistant to install nvidia drivers?
[06:34] <Valmarko> Perhaps some conflict with other plugin already installed. Firefox couldnt run mozzila-mplayer because there was already totem-gstreamer. I had to uninstall it to activate mozilla-mplayer
[06:35] <fdoving> BluesKaj:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[06:35] <Valmarko> Does the command alien require some special parameter before the rpm file ?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> thx fdoving , but Iwas trying to help andreasw...not a realplayer fan , even in windows :)
[06:36] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ now i have this error with Savage :(
[06:36] <andreasw> Valmarko: install fakeroot and put that in front of the command
[06:37] <guillaume> hi all
[06:37] <manu_> fdoving: which email client do you use?
[06:37] <manu_> hi guillaume
[06:37] <Valmarko> ? like... alien fakeroot ?
[06:37] <guillaume> http://www.xnxx.com/
[06:37] <andreasw> BluesKaj: well some websites require realplayer so it's not a question if you are a fan or not ^^
[06:37] <guillaume> enjoy yourself
[06:37] <andreasw> Valmarko: fakeroot alien foo.rpm
[06:37] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ <- pls help me :)
[06:37] <Valmarko> ok. tnks andreasw
[06:38] <azerty> d
[06:38] <BluesKaj> well, mplayer plugin takes care of those sites for me , fdoving :)
[06:38] <fdoving> manu_: i use mailody.
[06:39] <manu_> fdoving: dont know it whats your opinion about kmail (kubuntu) and thunderbird?
[06:39] <fdoving> manu_: i like kmail better than tunderbird.
[06:40] <fdoving> manu_: but i'm not sure you do, you'll have to test them both to find out which of them you like best :)
[06:40] <manu_> fdoving: i used on kanotix thunderbird and liked it, kmail is allready installed and i would use it but i want to add more emails in one account
[06:40] <Hawai`i> ive installed kubuntu and i installed proftpd to share files with friends, but my logs are filling up with trouble makers and i was wondering if theres any way to block the ip
[06:41] <malik_> hi......i am having crashes with firefox which i downloaded from ubuntu repos....i am using kubuntu edgy .....does any one have any suggestions or any one have same problem?
[06:41] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ <- pls help me :)
[06:42] <fdoving> manu_: you can add more identities in kmail too. (and in mailody)
[06:43] <malik_> hi......i am having crashes with firefox which i downloaded from ubuntu repos....i am using kubuntu edgy .....does any one have any suggestions or any one have same problem?
[06:43] <Xera> n0ne: you need to install your graphics card drivers
 thx
[06:44] <Xera> just do a google search for "<name of your card> ubuntu"
[06:44] <manu_> fdoving: afaik you can add to one identity in thunderbird more email adresses have i to change to another identity in kmail?
[06:44] <Xera> someone will have made a tutorial, i bet ;p
[06:45] <fdoving> manu_: you can add one pop3/imap account, and multiple identities / e-mail addresses, yes.
[06:45] <fdoving> bbl food.
[06:45] <malik_> is there any work around for yahoo to accessed by via pop by Kmail?
[06:48] <manu_> thx fdoving
[06:49] <FedeRcio> hola
[06:49] <Valmarko> alien 'tranlated' a rpm file to deb package. I used fakeroot. The application is installed but doesnt run. Mybe some apps from rpm packages dont run in debian systems ?
[06:51] <andreasw> Valmarko: yes that can happen
[06:52] <andreasw> Valmarko: for example java.rpm from sun won't work if you install it with alien
[06:52] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[06:52] <Valmarko> I was soo happy because i found dvdshrink for linux... I guess I'll have to use wine
[06:53] <andreasw> Valmarko: I thought DVDschrink is only available for windows
[06:53] <freshburn> could some one afford me some newb help plz
[06:54] <freshburn> concerning adept sources and BREAK(isntall) messages
[06:54] <freshburn> ive been googling for 3 days now and im getting nowhere, i run kubuntu edgy
[06:55] <Valmarko> I found a portuguese site with the package. http://contribware.caixamagica.pt/repository/contribution.2005-11-20.6106706006
[06:56] <Martiini> freshburn:  shoot .. I'll do my best
[06:56] <Martiini> freshburn: Have you broken your kubuntu?
[06:56] <freshburn> i installed edgy from live cd added universe and multiverse repos and a fouple that a website suggested
[06:57] <freshburn> i allowed adept to update like 90 packages overnight and now no matter which package i "Request install" adept tells me BREAK(install)
[06:57] <freshburn> is that the dangers of adding strange repos? should i just stick to universe and multiverse and the default repos?
[06:58] <freshburn> the ones the website suggested were something free non-free but im not exactly sure as ive booted back to Xp for now
[06:58] <freshburn> my wireless BCM9430 is not working either for now
[06:59] <freshburn> but thats a differet issue
[06:59] <kkosmo> hi somone i type cfdisk in kubuntu and i get
[06:59] <Martiini> dpkg -i --force-..... is used for forcing installing packages into broken system
[06:59] <kkosmo> fatal eroer cant open disk drive
[07:00] <Martiini> freshburn: apt-get -f install works after you've used dpkg to force packages which dont install
[07:00] <longbean> freshburn: if you go adding non-standard repos then this is a risk you face i think, yeah
[07:01] <freshburn> to be honest i noticed when i tried to install gnome-games packages and it said break which made me wonder WTF would a game break in my system but now every package i request install says that
[07:02] <kkosmo> when i type cfdisk in linux i get
[07:02] <kkosmo>  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[07:02] <kkosmo>  Press any key to exit cfdisk
[07:02] <kkosmo>  what i need to do
[07:02] <freshburn> so could someone give me the like repo safe lecture or something? use only defaults? are universe and multiverse safe? does it make a difference if i run edgy? what the heck are the differences i.e. what does universe and multiverse even mean?
[07:03] <freshburn> someone suggested to never use adept and try synaptic instead
[07:03] <longbean> freshburn: synaptic'll probably give you a more informative error message, at any rate...
[07:03] <manchicken> freshburn: Adept is fine.
[07:03] <manchicken> I use it all the time.
[07:03] <manchicken> No problems.
[07:04] <Martiini> freshburn: www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  ... ubuntuforums.org .. etc .. I'll find u a page to use for fixing your broken system
[07:04] <Jucato> manchicken: "no problems" really? :P
[07:04] <manchicken> Jucato: Not when I'm using it.  Only when I'm hacking it ;)
[07:04] <Jucato> lol :)
[07:04] <freshburn> so by adding the universe and multiverse repos i was ok but when i added the one that said contains some comm. software (it was realplayer and opera and something else) i let it d/l something that stops me from installing packages?
[07:05] <Jucato> manchicken: the reason why you're hacking it then... :P
[07:05] <kkosmo> hi somone can help me with my problem
[07:05] <kkosmo> ?
[07:05] <Jucato> !someone
[07:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:05] <kkosmo> when i type cfdisk i get
[07:05] <kkosmo>  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[07:05] <kkosmo>  Press any key to exit cfdisk
[07:05] <kkosmo>  what i need to do
[07:06] <longbean> well, multiverse repo should already contain opera and realplayer
[07:06] <kkosmo> question
[07:06] <Xera> kkosmo: run it as r00t
[07:06] <jatos> hey
[07:06] <Xera> lol
[07:06] <kkosmo> lol
[07:06] <jatos> does anyone how I could recover a parition table deleted by DOS 6.22 setup?
[07:07] <jatos> nothing actually been written onto the hard disk after DOS setup got to it
[07:07] <freshburn> whats is wierd is this is only happening on my laptop and when i changed sources.lst i changed it on my desktop too (almost identical hardware and edgy) but everything is still fine on it isntalled gnome games and a bunch of other stuff np
[07:08] <freshburn> jatos what was previously the system on HD
[07:09] <longbean> freshburn: did you actually try to install an app from an unofficial repo?
[07:09] <jatos> a mix of XP and ubuntu, XP on the first 20gb hardisk, I had another logical partition,l and after that a SWAP and reiserFS partition belonging to DOS
[07:09] <freshburn> no all i did was add them to the sources.lst and adept updated like 90 packages but it reported 90 pckgs to be updated before i changed sources.lst too
[07:09] <jatos> *not dos, Ubuntu
[07:10] <freshburn> no new installs tho only updated packages
[07:10] <freshburn> jatos use a win98 boot disk get a dos prmpt and FDISK /mbr
[07:11] <freshburn> should take care of ya
[07:11] <Martiini> freshburn:  you can look at this shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems
[07:11] <jatos> cheers
[07:11] <freshburn> get bootdisk from bootdisks.com
[07:11] <freshburn> or boot-disk.com or something
[07:11] <jatos> I can get hold of the boot disks easily enough...
[07:11] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[07:11] <freshburn> ty martiini
[07:12] <freshburn> so is there issues where adept could have updated a package from another repo that is "ahead of its time" and the other required packages for it arent up to edgy versions yet?
[07:14] <Martiini> apparently faisty doesnt install and breaks your system (Ive heard) .. I got it to work eventually
[07:14] <jatos> just to check, will fdisk be able to handle a abnormal partition layout?
[07:14] <longbean> freshburn: more likely it's an out-of-date repo that expects packages which are now obsolete
[07:14] <freshburn> it always was ok when i dualbooted win/Os/2
[07:15] <longbean> freshburn: it really does sound like a dependency problem
[07:15] <freshburn> whats faisty?
[07:15] <Minataku> jatos: Abnormal as in weird or abnormal as in corrupted?
[07:15] <Pensacola> when I try to sudo mount -o loop scenery_D1.iso /media/iso it says mount: Not a directory
[07:15] <freshburn> its wierd that every package i request install (i randomly clicked on a bunch of them) and they all reported BREAK
[07:15] <Minataku> DOS FDISK is a total piece of crap
[07:15] <Lynoure> freshburn: feisty is the upcoming ubuntu release
[07:16] <Minataku> I highly recommend never using it for any actual use
[07:16] <freshburn> ah
[07:16] <Minataku> Since all DOS FDISK can do is make DOS partitions and delete everything
[07:16] <Martiini> freshburn:  so .. do you wanna spend a few hours fixing your system .. or yu wanna do freshs install
[07:17] <freshburn> i installed edgy hoping that my wireless in laptop would "just work" but since it doesnt anyway should i run 6.06 instead of 6.10
[07:17] <jatos> I wanna fix my system, I have important data on it!
[07:17] <freshburn> at this point all i have on the system is basically the fresh isntall still lol
[07:18] <longbean> freshburn: try this at the command-line "apt-get check". that should give better info than what adept has given you
[07:18] <mineur[fencing] > jatos: and backing up that data and then do a fresh install?
[07:18] <freshburn> well plus an overnight let adept update shit over dialup session
[07:18] <Martiini> any case ..   u can "dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/PACKAGE-NAME" for PACKAGE-NAME  and then "apt-get -f install"
[07:18] <jatos> easier said than done for me...
[07:18] <kjdis> There is this annoyance I keep running into, with the Display Settings dialog in 6.10, when you try to go into Admin Mode sometimes the prompt for password never appears, anyone else have this?
[07:18] <mineur[fencing] > kjdis: I've had it too
[07:18] <Minataku> jatos: Provided only the partiton table was affected
[07:19] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[07:19] <freshburn> it happened to me once i clicked in the "taskbar" and minimized the window, typed in password then brought the settings back maximized
[07:19] <Minataku> You could attempt to use a rescue CD with a copy of... uh, some tool that looks for partition boundaries
[07:19] <mineur[fencing] > anyway, I'm of for training
[07:19] <Minataku> !gparted
[07:19] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:19] <Minataku> That's not it
[07:19] <Minataku> Hm
[07:19] <mineur[fencing] > qtparted then? :p
[07:19] <kjdis> mineur[fencing] : man it's really pissing me off, restart of X doesn't clear it, I've been rebooting actually, and I have been running this box for only about a week and had it happen many times as I've been playing with the settings a lot
[07:20] <Martiini> uhh .. it was nice and quiet here during the day .. but as soon as USA wakes up ..
[07:20] <kjdis> mineur[fencing] : I must admit it's pretty sad, the kind of annoyances you expect in Windows
[07:20] <jatos> I got qtparted on, but how can I recover my old partitions with it
[07:20] <Minataku> gpart
[07:20] <Minataku> !gpart
[07:20] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[07:21] <Minataku> jatos: No, don't touch the HDD at all
[07:21] <jatos> kk
[07:21] <Minataku> Get a LiveCD or something that has gpart on it
[07:21] <Minataku> Then run that and pray
[07:21] <mineur[fencing] > kjdis: : I know, but it seemed to have fixed itself here, or I did something, but I would have no clue what...
[07:21] <BluesKaj> kjdis, ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '
[07:22] <mineur[fencing] > anyway now I'm really of for training
[07:22] <kjdis> BluesKaj: how will that fix it?
[07:22] <Minataku> If you're lucky and/or there was no overwriting of anything other than just the partition table, gpart should save your ass
[07:23] <Minataku> http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/ << gpart homepage
[07:23] <BluesKaj> kjdis, it will take you thru the X setup menu and help fix what's wrong
[07:24] <jatos> I fairly certain is just the partition table
[07:24] <freshburn> manchicken will i not have this kind of problems that a newb like me cant handle if i run dapper instead of edgy?
[07:24] <jatos> there a possible upto too gig of data into the hard disk may have been overwritten, but thats not where anything important it
[07:24] <jatos> *is
[07:25] <Minataku> As long as none of the partition boundaries were overwritten you should still be in good shape
[07:26] <freshburn> brb all switching kubuntu to try a few suggestions ty so far
[07:26] <manchicken> freshburn: Edgy works just fine.
[07:33] <freshburn> ok what was the command for a better error message from adept than just BREAK(install)
[07:33] <longbean> apt-get check
[07:34] <longbean> sorry, sudo apt-get check
[07:34] <freshburn> most packages will let me request install now but gnome-games still says BREAK(isntall) the gnome-games-data is installed tho
[07:34] <freshburn> what in a game could break my system?
[07:34] <kkosmo> someone what the name of the file that manage the mount points
[07:34] <kkosmo> ?
[07:35] <Zaggynl> Does anyone know if there is a frontend for trickle? Or if there is an on-the-fly bandwidth shaper?
[07:35] <longbean> kkosmo: /etc/fstab
[07:35] <N6REJ> "/etc/fstab"
[07:36] <fdoving> Zaggynl: what do you want to use it for?
[07:36] <longbean> freshburn: maybe try installing gnome-games from the command line? sudo apt-get install gnome-games
[07:36] <Zaggynl> fdoving, on the fly bandwith shaping
[07:36] <Zaggynl> trickle comes close, but I have to CLI it for every app
[07:36] <freshburn> command line reports BREAK also
[07:36] <fdoving> Zaggynl: for all traffic on the device, or single connections?
[07:36] <freshburn> check reports
[07:36] <freshburn> Reading package lists... Done
[07:36] <freshburn> Building dependency tree
[07:36] <freshburn> Reading state information... Done
[07:36] <Zaggynl> fdoving, per application
[07:36] <fdoving> !paste | freshburn
[07:36] <ubotu> freshburn: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[07:36] <Zaggynl> so, yes, single connections
[07:37] <fdoving> Zaggynl: ok. then i don't have any good suggestions. I use 'wondershaper' for my dsl connection.
[07:37] <Zaggynl> Ah okay, thanks
[07:37] <N6REJ> fdoving: nice pipe... didn't know you could do that.
[07:38] <K-Ryan> Hi guys
[07:38] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: did you get your them installed?
[07:38] <freshburn> fdoving: how do you know i cant type that fast? j/k
[07:38] <K-Ryan> The themes?
[07:38] <K-Ryan> Yeah it was screwy but I did
[07:38] <fdoving> N6REJ: you can also use redirect (to msg) !fact > nick
[07:38] <fdoving> freshburn: voodoo magic :)
[07:39] <N6REJ> fdoving: sweet! I'll remember that.
[07:39] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: good.  Kubuntu has a wonderful help manual if you open Konqueror
[07:40] <longbean> freshburn: was there a line prefaced with "E" in the output of the apt-get command?
[07:40] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: wait till you start compiling software and you find out you need a file that you weren't told about.... thats when the fun begins.
[07:40] <K-Ryan> N6REJ I don't see anything about changing themes in the desktop
[07:40] <freshburn> so i am going to reinstall if i copy the updates from my desktop pc (identical setup as laptop) /var/cache/apt/archives and put them in that same directory on laptop after fresh install, will i not have to d/l them overnight (dialup) again?
[07:40] <K-Ryan> Err, desktop area of the manual
[07:40] <K-Ryan> Or the manual at all.
[07:40] <freshburn> will adept find them automatically if i put them in that dir?
[07:41] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: open Konqueror, do you know where that is?
[07:41] <K-Ryan> Yep, use it all the time
[07:41] <freshburn> and this time i think i will just leave the default repos plus universe and multiverse,... is that completely safe?
[07:41] <longbean> freshburn: theoretically, yes. i'm not used to using adept, though.
[07:41] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, when you first open it on the bottom right is a "life preserver" see it?
[07:41] <K-Ryan> Yeah...
[07:41] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: thats the help file menu.
[07:42] <longbean> freshburn: universe and multiverse shouldn't be any problem.
[07:42] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: click on "Desktop" and it will tell you everything you could ever want to know about the desktop
[07:42] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: or more accurately a "workstation" which is what you have.
[07:42] <freshburn> so whats the main restricted universe multiverse free non-free tags mean in the sources.lst file?
[07:42] <N6REJ> !repos > freshburn
[07:42] <K-Ryan> I don't see anything about desktops
[07:42] <K-Ryan> I'm running Dapper
[07:43] <K-Ryan> If that changes anything
[07:43] <longbean> freshburn: most of the non-free stuff you're after will probably be in multiverse, anyway. that's basically its purpose
[07:43] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: doesn't matter, its always been there.
[07:43] <freshburn> ooooooo... ty
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Hold on, I am going to show you what I see
[07:43] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: k
[07:43] <amro> display settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Wait, did you want me to click the life preserver?
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Or the Desktop guide before hand...
[07:44] <freshburn> yes kryan
[07:44] <inam> !virus
[07:44] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Because I've been in both and haven't seen how to change themes.
[07:44] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: either, they both have good info. the desktop guide is what you want
[07:44] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: on the very bottom right do you see "an introduction to konqueror?"
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Yes
[07:45] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, that will tell you all about Konqueror... now.. hang on.
[07:45] <K-Ryan> I know about Konqueror
[07:45] <inam> !free
[07:45] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[07:46] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[07:47] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok.
[07:48] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: read this, see if that helps you some.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24380
[07:49] <freshburn> so is there a way to tell adept to try installing an older version of package gnome-games that possibly wont BREAK anything?
[07:49] <inam> !drm
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <K-Ryan> N6REJ, you did hear me say "I found out how to do it" right?
[07:49] <inam> huh ! :-o
[07:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, the point I was trying to make is there is a TON of info, if you use the wiki's, the doc, the help
[07:50] <K-Ryan> KMenu>System Settings>Apearance
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Now if someone had told me that, it would of been much much easier.
[07:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: if you use those sources and THEN come here nobody will ever yell at you again.
[07:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: I did last night.
[07:50] <K-Ryan> I couldn't find it in the sources.
[07:51] <N6REJ> :P
[07:51] <Martiini> freshburn:  .. I told you an hour ago .. you can do things like that with dpkg
[07:51] <K-Ryan> You said something close to it I think, ah no matter.
[07:51] <longbean> freshburn: find the package that gnome-games wants but isn't getting. it should tell you when you try to install it. "gnome-games depends on xxxxx, but...."
[07:52] <freshburn> itself is the one that says BREAK the main one
[07:52] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yeah, people generally can't give you a step-by-step click here guide.  The reason is is virtually every one of us has a slightly different look/feel/smell/install whatever.  Programs I have that make my life easy you may hate and not use.  And visa/versa
[07:52] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: so the best you can hope for is a general try this... or, look over here.
[07:53] <amro> display settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?
[07:53] <K-Ryan> But it was a theme change, which should be the same for all of Kubuntu users running Dapper
[07:53] <K-Ryan> It's not a big deal though, I figured it out
[07:54] <longbean> freshburn: could you try the apt-get install gnome-games again and paste the actual error message to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please?
[07:54] <freshburn> yup
[07:55] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: sure, but the problem was, and its something your going to HAVE to learn to overcome if you want to succeed at *nix, is that EVERYONE expects you've made a reasonable effort to solve this yourself, and when you said you were'nt going to read the resources given, that made folks angry.  For example, in my case I was in the middle of working on tax configuration in quasar.  I've got over 1048 tax codes to enter.  So both me and my
[07:55] <N6REJ> wife were hard at it.  I was on my WindBlows client and she was on KDE, I had to interrupt her to find out the exact sequence because I just do it, and don't even think about what it is that I'm doing anymore.  So two people, plus everyone here, had to stop to give more guidance then SHOULD have been necessary.... We were all noob's once, and we had to learn this basic fact.
[07:56] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: also realise that for example, I'm running edgy workstation at this moment, but my wife uses edgy server.  Two VERY different animals.  Most of the time "I" work in a konsole enviorment NOT a qui
[07:57] <K-Ryan> I have no problem using resources or even trying by myself, but I figured that was a quick little thing someone could of typed in.
[07:57] <K-Ryan> And it seemed like it was...
[07:58] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yep, they could've.... it was the point, not the problem.  Do you understand?  There are LOTS of situations that are super simple once you know how, but you MUST try.  Especially with harder things.
[07:58] <K-Ryan> I did try!
[07:58] <K-Ryan> I was looking through every configure menu I knew about
[07:59] <freshburn> this is first time i tried to use pastebins and it is yelling at me that i am spamming and to enable javascripts
[07:59] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: nm.... if you understand what I'm trying to tell you it will help you enourmously.  I finally felt sorry for you and interrupted my work to answer your question, but most folks will NOT do that.
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Then thank you, let's stop arguing =P
[07:59] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yep
[08:00] <freshburn> but in konqueror i have java and javascripts enabled globally
[08:00] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: so do you need help today or just visiting?
[08:00] <K-Ryan> I was waiting for someone to ask that =)
[08:00] <K-Ryan> No today I'm okay so far
[08:00] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, just as an FYI, you have to say, THIS widget is broken and here's what I've done to try to figure it out... thats the proticol
[08:01] <N6REJ> bad spelling
[08:01] <longbean> freshburn: i can't explain that. i've got it open right now with no issues
[08:01] <malik_> does any one know any easdy way to configure kmail for yahoo pop access
[08:01] <freshburn> for syntax i chose bash i think thats right i was in a shell
[08:01] <K-Ryan> It's ok, I get what you meant.
[08:01] <N6REJ> malik_: unless yahoo has changed certain yahoo accounts don't do pop.  Check yahoo first.
[08:01] <amro> display settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?
[08:02] <longbean> freshburn: maybe text. it's not code you're pasting
[08:02] <freshburn> anyways apt-get says that the dependencies are not installable
[08:02] <longbean> freshburn: URL?
[08:02] <freshburn> oh
[08:02] <freshburn> i c
[08:02] <Gidgidonihah> hello. I just installed ubuntu on my second hdd and grub isn't booting. it just boots directly into xp.  can anyone help?
[08:02] <N6REJ> amro: your video card has to be configured/able to handle them too not just the monitor.  Check your display drivers/settings.
[08:03] <K-Ryan> Gidgidonihah, you might have to put a /boot on your first hdd
[08:03] <K-Ryan> I had to and it fixed my problem
[08:03] <N6REJ> !grub | Gidgidonihah
[08:03] <ubotu> Gidgidonihah: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:03] <freshburn> wow the text thing was it thanks the url is 1715
[08:03] <K-Ryan> You can make a GRUB floppy? I have to remember that...
[08:04] <amro> N6REJ: The resolution works under windows. the driver was automatically picked by x
[08:04] <malik_> N6REJ: there are some linux utilities which can fetch it via pop but they are perl scxripts and i dont know how to install or work them........it says that after u install those u can configure ur mail client to send and recieve yahoo mail and even hotmail too
[08:04] <N6REJ> amro: thats doesn't mean it did it right :D  X is FAR from perfect.
[08:05] <N6REJ> malik_: is it "fetchmail" they are talking about?
[08:05] <Gidgidonihah> i don't have a floppy drive
[08:05] <Gidgidonihah> oh wait, yes i do :)
[08:05] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: you don't have to have one, you can use just about anything :D
[08:05] <amro> N6REJ: ill try vesa as driver
[08:05] <freshburn> martiini: the results of dpkg are in that same shell pastebin (1715)
[08:05] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: and in this instance I seriously doubt you do.
[08:06] <N6REJ> amro: what vid card?
[08:06] <longbean> freshburn: it's fixable. i think your sources.lst may have been borked somehow
[08:06] <malik_> N6REJ: its fetchyahoo for downloading mail and sendymail for sending it and there are alot of others on this page too
[08:06] <freshburn> im going to paste it now because i think i got some bad advice about repos to add from a forum
[08:06] <amro> N6REJ: i915
[08:07] <N6REJ> malik_: ok, do a search in adept for one of those.
[08:07] <N6REJ> amro, I think that is one of the cards that has issues.. vesa maybe your best bet.  Check the wiki
[08:07] <longbean> freshburn: looks like. those packages saying "not installable" should be installable
[08:07] <amro> N6REJ: alright, thanks, restarting x to test
[08:08] <N6REJ> !hardware | amro
[08:08] <ubotu> amro: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:08] <malik_> N6REJ: well fetchyahoo is in the repos but the one to send mail is not............
[08:08] <malik_> N6REJ: i just checked it
[08:08] <N6REJ> malik_: ok, then use fetchyahoo there will likely be a doc or a readme with it.
[08:09] <N6REJ> malik_: sorry just reread, ok, you may have to get it from debian.
[08:09] <Gidgidonihah> I forgot that i moved my floppy drive over to this computer.  Anyway.  i read the grubhowto and don't really know where to go.  All i can do is load windows or the live cd.  And I don't know how to mount my drives in the live cd
[08:10] <N6REJ> malik_: then use dpkg to install
[08:10] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: ok, hang on I'll try to narrow it down for you.
[08:10] <Gidgidonihah> k thx
[08:10] <freshburn> pastebin 1719 is my sources.list i commented added 1-12-7 the ones i added and also i added the universe and multiverse too, also i edited it by hand so i guesss i could just be an idiot and have a typo somewhere eh?
[08:11] <kjdis> If you install the nvidia proprietary driver, should the settings in KDE still show "nv" as the driver?  Seems wrong to me, or maybe just an unimportant bug?
[08:11] <freshburn> longbean those same packages with an identical sources.list worked fine on my desktop just not my laptop
[08:11] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: how did you lose grub anyway?
[08:12] <Gidgidonihah> It never worked.  I had a working xp install on my sata.  I then partitioned my pata and installed kubuntu.  i then rebooted and it just booted right into xp
[08:13] <K`zan> What is the update managers name for edgy?
[08:13] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: thats strange.
[08:13] <N6REJ> k
[08:13] <N6REJ> K`zan: adept for the gui
[08:13] <Martiini> freshburn: try dpkg -i --force-all  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-games*
[08:14] <K`zan> N6REJ: OK, I thought there was something that pops up the icon in the system tray, will run adept.  TNX ES 73.
[08:14] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: try sudo update-grub
[08:14] <longbean> freshburn: i think i need to go through how updating works on kubuntu
[08:14] <rich__> hi
[08:14] <N6REJ> K`zan: yeah, its a triangle... let me look
[08:14] <ashiunowho> hi
[08:14] <longbean> freshburn: step 1 is editing the sources.list
[08:14] <K`zan> N6REJ: rr rnx
[08:14] <rich__> wana chat???
[08:15] <longbean> freshburn: adept then performs step 2 and 3
[08:15] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: No GRUB directory found
[08:15] <N6REJ> <--- is popular all of the suddent
[08:15] <N6REJ> AH
[08:15] <rich__> hi
[08:15] <N6REJ> k
[08:15] <Gidgidonihah> of course it doesn't look like my hdds are mounted
[08:15] <longbean> freshburn: step 2 is downloading the summary of available packages from the repos
[08:15] <N6REJ> THATS an issue LOL
[08:15] <rich__> hi
[08:16] <rich__> wana chat???
[08:16] <Gidgidonihah> yeah, might be a bit of a problem
[08:16] <longbean> freshburn: step 3 is using those summaries to figure out what to install
[08:16] <K-Ryan> rich__ people here are not interested in personal chat.
[08:16] <Gidgidonihah> and i don't know how to mount them
[08:16] <freshburn> martiini that unpacked and install the gnome-game-data package
[08:16] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: check the "Changing the disk that grub is installed to " section.  No promises though, for some reason fstab didn't pickup your install.
[08:16] <longbean> freshburn: i'm guessing your unborked system hasn't been borked yet because you haven't updated anything yet
[08:17] <K`zan> N6REJ: /usr/bin/adept_updater :-). tnx
[08:18] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: well first of all i have to mount the drives, and i've yet to figure out how to do that
[08:18] <freshburn> it d/l 90 updates first night i installed kubuntu, the files are all in /var/cache/apt/archives i checked
[08:18] <djdarkman> hy ,can anyone tell me how to set up flash to work with opera on a 64 bit machine?
[08:18] <N6REJ> !mount | Gidgidonihah
[08:18] <ubotu> Gidgidonihah: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:18] <freshburn> and adept reported the next morning when i awoke that all was successful in updating
[08:19] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: does that help?
[08:19] <K-Ryan> How would I go about removing Ubuntu and putting Kubuntu in its place?
[08:19] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: is the *nix drive the same as the windows drive?
[08:19] <freshburn> and what the heck is unborked
[08:19] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: no, seperate drives
[08:20] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: install the KDE metapackage
[08:20] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: including the KDM
[08:20] <K-Ryan> But when I have Ubuntu in, its internet won't work.
[08:20] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: ok, you need to make a "/boot" partition.  just 250M or is fine.
[08:21] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: why do you say that?
[08:21] <K-Ryan> Because the ethernet port isn't recognized by the laptop
[08:21] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: you can have as many display systems as you want.  Its *nix not windblows
[08:21] <K-Ryan> But in Kubuntu it is
[08:21] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: ok, should i boot to gparted or can i do that from the live cd?
[08:21] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: thats a config issue NOT gnome/kde issue.
[08:21] <longbean> freshburn: something about your setup isn't letting your system download packages which should be available for download
[08:21] <phobiac> Holy crap. This is horrible.
[08:21] <K-Ryan> Yes but he wants KDE anyway
[08:22] <phobiac> Hey K-Ryan
[08:22] <K-Ryan> Hey phobiac
[08:22] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: do it from the live cd... it may be a "repair"
[08:22] <longbean> freshburn: i'm gonna suggest removing all the unofficial repositories, running apt-get update and see if that fixes things. otherwise i'm out of ideas, sorry
[08:22] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: fine, so install KDE, and after you change to KDM remove ubuntu-desktop.. .DONE
[08:22] <phobiac> Okay, I really need help. I try to login with the graphic login and the screen goes black, the mouse shows up, and then I'm knocked back to the login screen.
[08:22] <Dink> What package has the "file, edit" etc in konqueror or how can I get it back ?
[08:23] <freshburn> ok, ty for trying, ive bothered just about every person here
[08:23] <K-Ryan> Remove it by removing it's partition?
[08:23] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: sorry, i'm lost. how do i do it?
[08:23] <N6REJ> phobiac: your video res is too high lower it
[08:23] <phobiac> N6REJ: I didn't touch my video resolution
[08:23] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: best way is to reinstall but this time make sure you create a small boot partition.
[08:23] <phobiac> I think it's X
[08:23] <longbean> freshburn: wait, no, i think i've got it.
[08:23] <N6REJ> phobiac: yes, it is.
[08:23] <phobiac> Wait, let my copy the error over I get when I do startx on a command line only session
[08:24] <N6REJ> phobiac: you could always delete your .x settings and let it rebuild.
[08:24] <freshburn> k
[08:24] <freshburn> shoot
[08:24] <N6REJ> freshburn: BANG
[08:24] <petr_> Hello Everyone
[08:25] <phobiac> waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[08:25] <phobiac> That's what I get. When I do startx I just get knocked back to command line.
[08:25] <longbean> freshburn: it's a silly typo :)
[08:25] <phobiac> N6REJ: How do I delete my .x settings?
[08:25] <longbean> freshburn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1722/
[08:26] <N6REJ> phobiac: ls -la and then "rm -rf .X whatever
[08:26] <freshburn> lmfao thats why changing important shit at 3am can be a bad thiing and a second set of eyes can be a good thing
[08:26] <N6REJ> freshburn: watch you language, this is a family channel
[08:26] <freshburn> my bad
[08:27] <longbean> freshburn: that paste contains your sources.lst file corrected
[08:27] <phobiac> So everything with .X in front of it has to be deleted?
[08:27] <freshburn> and its the first line so it piffed off adept when it read my repos and thats why it says BREAK on everything
[08:27] <freshburn> just that one longbean?
[08:27] <freshburn> lol
[08:28] <N6REJ> phobiac: I would
[08:28] <longbean> freshburn: there were several that i saw.
[08:28] <phobiac> -rf is recursive, right?
[08:28] <N6REJ> phobiac: recursive forced
[08:28] <phobiac> Just to dould check, rm -rf .X* should work?
[08:28] <longbean> freshburn: because the repo was entered wrongly, the packages you needed to get installed could not be found by the package manager
[08:28] <phobiac> With the wildcard.
[08:28] <N6REJ> phobiac: yep
[08:28] <phobiac> Okay
[08:28] <phobiac> Thanks
[08:29] <N6REJ> phobiac: np
[08:29] <freshburn> like every single one,... so the trailing slash should be added to all of them? that cant be right because alot of the lines were never edited from install
[08:29] <longbean> freshburn: hang on
[08:29] <N6REJ> I need to bow out to restart the kernel, everyone have what they need from me for now?
[08:29] <phobiac> Should I deleted xwinwrap?
[08:29] <longbean> freshburn: damn it, it's the other way round, sorry :(
[08:29] <N6REJ> phobiac: dunno, don't know that program
[08:30] <phobiac> Okay
[08:30] <phobiac> Thank you so much for your help.
[08:30] <N6REJ> phobiac: np.
[08:30] <phobiac> My live CD is with a friend and this freaked me out so much.
[08:30] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: don't leave me! :)
[08:30] <N6REJ> phobiac: don't worry, you can always redownload :D
[08:30] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: ok, whats up?
[08:31] <longbean> freshburn: i just checked my own sources.list. trailing / is correct
[08:31] <freshburn> yeah i just looked at the one on my desktop pc, it has NO trailing slash
[08:31] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: k creating a partition on the sata (windows drive)
[08:31] <phobiac> N6REJ: Yeah but that would make me out a computer a few days still. :(
[08:31] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ:  primary ext3 ?
[08:31] <phobiac> Anyone, moment of truth. I'll try starting X now.
[08:31] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: yes
[08:31] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: and then label it /boot?
[08:31] <N6REJ> phobiac: k
[08:31] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: yes
[08:31] <longbean> freshburn: so you know what you're doing now?
[08:31] <phobiac> I still get the same error
[08:31] <freshburn> i think its safe to say its optional because some have it and some dont
[08:32] <phobiac> Only now it adds to it:
[08:32] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: when you "mount it on the next screen tell it /boot" as the mount point
[08:32] <freshburn> lol no
[08:32] <Gidgidonihah> N6REj: ok gonna give that a go.  Thanks so much for your help
[08:32] <N6REJ> freshburn: create a new sources list...
[08:32] <phobiac> xauth: creating new authority file  /home/admin/.Xauthority
[08:32] <N6REJ> !easysource | freshburn
[08:32] <ubotu> freshburn: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:32] <N6REJ> phobiac: thats a good thing!
[08:33] <phobiac> Yeah but doing startx again just does the same thing :(
[08:33] <phobiac> Do I need to restart the whole computer?
[08:33] <N6REJ> phobiac: admin?  Do you have permission in admin to run x?
[08:33] <phobiac> admin is my user name
[08:33] <N6REJ> phobiac: weird, k...
[08:34] <phobiac> Do I need root permission to run x?
[08:34] <N6REJ> phobiac: NO
[08:34] <N6REJ> phobiac: not unless something is seriously hosed
[08:34] <K-Ryan> Guys I'm installing Kubuntu on my friends laptop, should I remove the Ubuntu partitions and remake them for Kubuntu?
[08:34] <N6REJ> phobiac: rebuild your X config.. .something is hosed in it I think.
[08:35] <phobiac> How would I go about doing that?
[08:35] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: no, totally uncessary, just install KDE meta package
[08:35] <N6REJ> !xconfig | phobiac
[08:35] <ubotu> phobiac: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[08:35] <K-Ryan> But I don't want to =)
[08:35] <K-Ryan> I don't want to try and configure the internet, that would be a little too much for me
[08:35] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: *sigh* here we go again... do you want KDE or not?
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Yes, I want to install KDE from the live cd
[08:36] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok fine, do it that way then!
[08:36] <K-Ryan> I just want to know how I can remove Ubuntu from here
[08:36] <phobiac> Okay, reconfiguring
[08:36] <Dink> What package or changes do i need to make so konqueror has the "File, Edit" option ??
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Not how, how I should
[08:36] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: you can uninstall gnome from adebt or synaptic or apt-get
[08:37] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: but if your installing from live why mess with it as it will overwrite everything
[08:37] <K-Ryan> That's the kind of thing I like to hear =)
[08:37] <phobiac> Hmm okay, I've got an ATI video card but I was using the fglrx driver for it. Should I choose fglrx?
[08:38] <phobiac> As the video card driver for X server
[08:38] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: let me make something clear.. UBUNTU isn't a desktop, its your distro of linux... its your TYPE of windows...i.e xp, 95 etc.... Gnome is your desktop, as is KDE... you can't "REMOVE" ubuntu and have a working *nix box unless you change distro's.
[08:38] <phobiac> Thanks again for your help N6REJ
[08:38] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: hrm.  I get the error: FAT and NTFS filesystems may not be used on filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /home, /usr, /var, etc.). It is usually best to mount them somewhere under /media/.
[08:39] <K-Ryan> I wanted to remove Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu
[08:39] <N6REJ> phobiac: that can be a tricky thing... check the ati info
[08:39] <K-Ryan> Or in the other order, whichever way is the way to do it
[08:39] <freshburn> !backports
[08:39] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:39] <N6REJ> !ati | phobiac
[08:39] <ubotu> phobiac: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <sampan_> hrmmm, interesting problem here.  i'm on dapper, which has been stable (uptime 144 days), but this morning i've "lost" the mouse.  can't see the pointer anywhere. unplugging and replugging in the mouse has no effect
[08:39] <karmikaze> whats the apt command if you just want to update one package? do you just do apt-get install package
[08:40] <freshburn> wouldnt that be FRONTports then?
[08:40] <phobiac> I'd have to lynx that link and it's too much to type over into another session, I'll just pick fglrx and hope for the best. Worst that can happen is I have to start all over in configuring.
[08:40] <phobiac> Thank you though
[08:40] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: that is correct.  your *nix partitions can't be NTFS or fat32 per se'.  What you want is a small /boot of ext3 for *nix to install the kernel in, and the another partition ( or more ) of ext3 for *nix itself
[08:40] <malik_> what does integer string and boolean means in FF config?
[08:41] <N6REJ> sampan_: cat ate it?
[08:41] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: yeah that's the thing.  I just created the partitions in ext3
[08:41] <sampan_> n6rej  i might have guessed that, except i only have dogs. no cats ;)
[08:41] <N6REJ> karmikaze: yes, basically that is correct.
[08:42] <N6REJ> sampan_: try doing a hard shutdown... maybe the mb is having a hard time?
[08:42] <sampan_> maybe it's a sign to finally do a clean install of edgy anyway ... been overseas and away from my home desktop for 4 months
[08:42] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: ok, this is getting really really strange...
[08:42] <karmikaze> ty
[08:42] <Gidgidonihah> lol yeah to say the least
[08:43] <sampan_> n6rej  yeah ... i think once these ftp downloads are done, i'll back up my /home and just shutdown and do a clean install of edgy.  just thought there might be a simple way to re-initialize the mouse
[08:43] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: here's what I'd like you to try.  Create your small boot on the windows drive, then reboot and install "CLEAN", let it have the entire "new hDD" as its drive.
[08:43] <N6REJ> !mouse | sampan_
[08:43] <ubotu> sampan_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[08:43] <N6REJ> bah
[08:43] <sampan_> :X
[08:43] <N6REJ> sampan_: I think the mouse is initialize at boot time in the kernel itself
[08:44] <freshburn> so does a normal user need enable backports?
[08:44] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: i didn't quite get what you mean
[08:44] <mildner> hello any help for my dvb available?
[08:44] <N6REJ> freshburn: NO, enabling backports says "I know this is old software but I know what I'm doing and want to use it"
[08:44] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: basically reinstall.  see if that helps.
[08:44] <phobiac> What was that command again? sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg?
[08:45] <sampan_> gotcha ... good to know.  i can live with keyboard only for a couple hours and then just backup and reinstall edgy clean.  thanks for the help :)
[08:45] <N6REJ> !xcfg | phobiac
[08:45] <ubotu> phobiac: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <freshburn> that coulda been my problem all along then the forum i read about sources.list said to enable them
[08:45] <phobiac> I just need to know if that was the command I need to use.
[08:46] <phobiac> I can't easily get to websites at the moment.
[08:46] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: just reinstall linux you mean, or everything?
[08:46] <N6REJ> freshburn: some programs are only available in the backports, but there are risks, read the sources.list file for explaination or repos
[08:46] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: yeah, do that and see if that helps... I don't know why it didn't "take"
[08:46] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: you need a "/boot" paritition though.
[08:47] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: ok, that much i didn't know before
[08:47] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: but i do now :)
[08:47] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: otherwise *nix has to live in the first 1024 sectors of the drive.
[08:47] <Xera> how do i install gksu?
[08:47] <N6REJ> gksu? is that a package name?
[08:48] <phobiac> Do you mean gksudo?
[08:48] <Xera> yes
[08:48] <Xera> E: Package gksudo has no installation candidate
[08:48] <phobiac> You should already have it.
[08:48] <N6REJ> sudo apt-cache search gksudo will tell you what package has it.
[08:48] <Xera> oh, so i do ;P
[08:48] <fdoving> Xera: package name is 'gksu'
[08:49] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: ok well i'm off to reboot and try things again. wish me luck
[08:49] <phobiac> N6REJ: What's the command I use to reconfigure X? sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg doesn't work?
[08:49] <Xera> dunno what installed it though, it wasn't installed yesterday
[08:49] <phobiac> That's all I need from you
[08:49] <dokteurping_> does somebody speak french here?
[08:49] <N6REJ> phobiac: scroll up LOL
[08:49] <phobiac> !french
[08:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:49] <phobiac> I had to restart
[08:49] <N6REJ> !fr | dokteurping_
[08:49] <ubotu> dokteurping_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:49] <phobiac> I lost the history
[08:49] <dokteurping_> ok
[08:49] <N6REJ> ok, let me reactivate my mouse... it takes naps.
[08:50] <phobiac> Thank you. That's all I need.
[08:50] <mathieu> is there a way with apt-get upgrade to know what version will be installed (of all packages)
[08:51] <blue|palm> Help needed with installation... Ive installed kubuntu succesfully, but I can actually boot it!!! grub loads up and i can select kubuntu which is then followed by a black screen with blue "kubuntu" writing and a blue loading bar - nothing happens here
[08:51] <N6REJ> !xconfig | phobiac
[08:51] <ubotu> phobiac: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[08:51] <phobiac> Thank you very much
[08:51] <blue|palm> Help needed with installation... Ive installed kubuntu succesfully, but I cant actually boot it!!! grub loads up and i can select kubuntu which is then followed by a black screen with blue "kubuntu" writing and a blue loading bar - nothing happens here
[08:51] <N6REJ> yw
[08:51] <N6REJ> blue|palm: it takes a while
[08:52] <blue|palm> ive waited more than 30 min
[08:52] <blue|palm> thats a looong while
[08:52] <N6REJ> blue|palm: oh
[08:52] <blue|palm> any ideas? anyone?
[08:52] <N6REJ> dunno, sorry
[08:52] <blue|palm> ive tried both i386 amd amd64
[08:52] <blue|palm> are there problems with SATA or SATA2 drives by any chance?
[08:52] <dokteurping> is there a way to get grub more beautifull?
[08:53] <blue|palm> because I have a mixture of SATA and IDE drives... maybe they are conflicting in kubuntu or something?
[08:54] <blue|palm> anybody know where i can get help?
[08:54] <pavouk> hello, a have problem with apt-get install, i can't install nothing because different apllication running, but I don't which (it is the same if I reboot), how can I disable that "unknown" aplication . thx
[08:55] <dokteurping> maybe you cna get help in the official website of kubuntu
[08:55] <blue|palm> ive checked, all there is are the forums and this channel
[08:55] <blue|palm> ...
[08:55] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: what kind of hardware are you using
[08:56] <blue|palm> AMD FX60 Dual Core Processor
[08:56] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: how far does grub get
[08:56] <blue|palm> SATA 2 HDD (windows) + IDE (kubuntu)
[08:56] <blue|palm> it loads up fine
[08:56] <bonbonthejon> pavouk: try restarting
[08:56] <blue|palm> Ive tried that
[08:56] <blue|palm> grub works and kubuntu starts booting
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> pavouk: check synaptic, aptitude, adept, etc
[08:57] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: kubuntu should show what it is doing while it boots, does it?
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> it sounds like another client has it locked
[08:57] <blue|palm> no
[08:57] <blue|palm> it is just a black screen, with blue kubuntu text and a blue loading bar
[08:57] <blue|palm> the text is "Kubuntu"
[08:58] <mathieu> to answer my own question, apt-get -V does the trick
[08:58] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: is this dapper or edgy
[08:58] <blue|palm> edgy
[08:58] <blue|palm> should i get dapper
[08:58] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: the booting stuff changed in edgy, but it should still work
[08:58] <mildner> hello any help for my dvb available?
[08:59] <jon__> how do i update java
[08:59] <blue|palm> any ideas
[08:59] <blue|palm> its just unresponsive, as if it locks up
[08:59] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: there should be a way to view what is going on, try pushing esc or f1 while booting, it should go to text based
[08:59] <blue|palm> ive tried that
[08:59] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: does capslock still light up on the keyboard?
[08:59] <blue|palm> Ive used gentoo before, and gentoo had "verbose" mode
[08:59] <blue|palm> yes
[09:00] <jon__> how do i update java?
[09:00] <blue|palm> ive tried both amd64 and i386
[09:00] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: are you using networking?
[09:00] <blue|palm> no
[09:00] <mathieu> and to elaborate more on my own question, adding  APT::Get::Show-Versions "true" to /etc/apt/apt.conf will also do the trick (always)
[09:01] <blue|palm> Thats another problem: Does kubuntu support WPA-PSK security?
[09:01] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: ok, I was guessing maybe it was failing on getting an address
[09:01] <mathieu> thanks ;)
[09:01] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: yes, but it requires some work
[09:01] <blue|palm> I have disconnected my wifi card completely
[09:01] <blue|palm> and thats the only networking i have
[09:01] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: did you have it in when you installed?
[09:01] <blue|palm> yes
[09:01] <freshbrn> ok the problem was a typo in sources.list, when i added canonical i spelled commercial...commercail
[09:01] <freshbrn> im so dumb
[09:01] <blue|palm> should i re-install without it?
[09:02] <freshbrn> but at least its fixed
[09:02] <freshbrn> ty
[09:02] <freshbrn> everyone
[09:02] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: if its not too hard, try reinstalling
[09:02] <blue|palm> ok, for the 7th time today :)
[09:02] <blue|palm> thanks
[09:02] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: hope it works
[09:02] <blue|palm> I hope so too :) it looks like a great distro
[09:02] <jon__> how do i update java?
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> jon__: how did you install it
[09:03] <jon__> i do not remember, someone helped me
[09:03] <blue|palm> One more question, whats the general opinion of openSUSE vs Kubuntu/ubuntu
[09:03] <AdamFz> jon__ : may sound a silly suggestion, but follow the instructions in the self-extracting file from Sun. Works a charm, I did it yesterday. ;)
[09:03] <freshbrn> but i did disable the backports repos,... so what software is only avail on them so i know what i cant have
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> jon__: from a website, or using repository
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: never tried openSuse
[09:04] <jon__> i cannot do it with Adept?
[09:04] <blue|palm> ok
[09:04] <AdamFz> jon__ : I don't think Adept has the latest one in there yet. Or I couldn't find it, it's why I went for the manual install.
[09:05] <jon__> ok, thanks
[09:05] <blue|palm> has anybody here tried openSUSE?
[09:05] <Rob-West> is SuSe even free
[09:05] <blue|palm> openSUSE is
[09:05] <AdamFz> jon__ : There are only 2 stages to it. Run the downloaded file, and then link to it from within your ~/.mozilla/plugins directory
[09:05] <AdamFz> (assuming you use firefox)
[09:06] <jon__> ill try to figure it out
[09:06] <AdamFz> jon__ : I can step-by-step you if it'd help
[09:06] <jon__> oh, i need java to run a java program, not in firefox
[09:06] <AdamFz> aah
[09:06] <mildner>  hello any help for my dvb available?
[09:06] <tibbar> how can I get a quicktime plugin for firefox
[09:06] <freshburn> l8tr all
[09:06] <AdamFz> jon__ : well, the same should apply... but I've never used standalone java. So I may be of little use
[09:07] <The_Machine> I dual boot kubuntu and Windows XP, however I don't boot into XP (ever).  I do need to keep this setup in case i ignorantly crap out my linux OS for whatever unknown reason.  I use several external hard drives attached to this computer, and they are formatted with NTFS.  What is the best way to be able to read and write to the NTFS partitions on these external drives in kubuntu?
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> !ntfs | The_Machine
[09:07] <ubotu> The_Machine: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:07] <AdamFz> tibbar : There is no native quicktime player for linux
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> mildner: never used dvb
[09:08] <AdamFz> tibbar : mplayer can play them.. (sudo apt-get install mplayer)
[09:08] <jon__> i will have to do it when someone can step me through it who is sure it will work because i have an older version right now that i am relying on
[09:08] <tibbar> AdamFz: i'll try ty
[09:09] <AdamFz> tibbar : mplayer is great for just about any format you throw at it.
[09:09] <cyrille> Hello
[09:09] <blue|palm> The_Machine : How did you get kubuntu and windows dual booted?
[09:10] <tibbar> AdamFz: im trying to watch a music video and I can't download it, is there a way to play it with mplayer?
[09:10] <AdamFz> All videos can be downloaded one way or another ;)
[09:10] <AdamFz> What's the url?
[09:10] <blue|palm> use bitcomet's service for video downloading
[09:10] <tibbar> http://www.ferretstyle.com/comeclarityvideo/
[09:10] <The_Machine> Had XP installed, installed ubuntu, changed over to kubuntu using Synaptic.
[09:10] <blue|palm> or firefox plugin
[09:11] <blue|palm> firefox plugin is nicer
[09:12] <cyrille> I have a problem with my graphic boards, who can help me?
[09:12] <bonbonthejon> cyrille: ask the question
[09:12] <soulrider> The_Machine: youre asking if you should keep windows just in case you scrrew up kubuntu ?
[09:13] <cyrille> HEllo bonbonthejon
[09:13] <AdamFz> tibbar : The video is here: http://videos.ferretstyle.net/inflames-comeclarity2.mov
[09:13] <cyrille> I have a s3 savage4
[09:13] <The_Machine> No.  I was just getting the consensus of the best way to be able to write to NTFS partitions that are on external hard drives.  I realize now that mentioning the dual boot part is pretty unnecessary..  i mentioned it because i don't want to crap out that NTFS partition though.
[09:13] <AdamFz> I'll leave it to your imagination on how to save it.
[09:13] <The_Machine> :)
[09:13] <soulrider> cyrille: what computer do you have, isnt it really old?
[09:13] <cyrille> No
[09:13] <tibbar> AdamFz: ty how did you get that?
[09:13] <soulrider> ahh The_Machine i get it now
[09:14] <cyrille> Athlon 1666Mhz with 292Mo RAM
[09:14] <AdamFz> tibbar : My mplayer plugin for firefox shows where the source files are
[09:14] <bonbonthejon> cyrille: what is the problem
[09:14] <cyrille> I cannot benefit from acceleration 3d
[09:14] <soulrider> thats a good comp, is it an on board card ?
[09:14] <AdamFz> tibbar : Well, not My plugin, I should say "the" plugin.
[09:15] <soulrider> cyrille: i suggets searching in http://ubuntuforums.org theres tons of helo there
[09:15] <cyrille> ok
[09:15] <soulrider> maybe someone had a problem like yours, solved it and posted
[09:15] <The_Machine> i have been using captive NTFS..  do people think that 3g is better?
[09:15] <soulrider> The_Machine: i have allways used 3g
[09:15] <The_Machine> hmm
[09:15] <soulrider> i never heard about captive
[09:16] <The_Machine> any issues?
[09:16] <soulrider> 3g is great!
[09:16] <The_Machine> :)
[09:16] <soulrider> works like charm, at leats for me
[09:16] <The_Machine> k
[09:16] <The_Machine> critical data at all?
[09:16] <tibbar> AdamFz: where do I get the mplayer plugin? or does it come automatic with the instalation
[09:16] <The_Machine> or everything is disposal?
[09:16] <soulrider> well, i dont suggest writing something critical on an NTFS partition
[09:17] <The_Machine> i guess critical is relative..
[09:17] <The_Machine> "I'd really rather not lose this data at all"
[09:17] <The_Machine> type critical
[09:17] <The_Machine> not like "i lose money if this gets deleted"
[09:17] <AdamFz> tibbar : I think it comes with mplayer, can't remember now.
[09:17] <The_Machine> or "I have no more pictures of my family because of this"
[09:17] <soulrider> The_Machine: thes
[09:17] <soulrider> i have
[09:17] <The_Machine> k
[09:17] <tibbar> AdamFz: ok thanks
[09:17] <soulrider> but what i tried doing was slowly switch to ext3
[09:18] <soulrider> altohugh on my 120gb drive its kinda hard
[09:18] <The_Machine> :)
[09:18] <The_Machine> words.
[09:18] <soulrider> ext3 is much better
[09:19] <soulrider> ill be right back
[09:19] <draco> heya
[09:20] <phobiac> K-Ryan: You still here?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> Yup
[09:20] <soulrider> !ext3
[09:20] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:20] <phobiac> You want to set up sauerbraten still? I managed to get it working for me.
[09:21] <K-Ryan> I got it working
[09:21] <K-Ryan> But I didn't set my fglfx thing completely right
[09:21] <K-Ryan> so my screen is really screwed up
[09:21] <K-Ryan> the sync is off because I dont know what it should of been
[09:22] <phobiac> What's your monitor's dimensions?
[09:22] <tom-123> lu
[09:22] <K-Ryan> Don't know
[09:23] <phobiac> You should be able to find the right sync on google.
[09:23] <phobiac> Maybe with the monitor's model?
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Dunno what model my monitor is either =)
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Windows can tell me if I really want
[09:23] <phobiac> Okay
[09:23] <soulrider> uhm, is it me or the ext3 fs isnt too good? =/
[09:23] <K-Ryan> But I'm content with mahjongg at the moment
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Plus I finally got frozen bubble!
[09:24] <Daisuke_Ido> what's wrong with ext3?
[09:24] <phobiac> Woo, was a repository not enabled or something?
[09:24] <tom-123> who is frence
[09:24] <K-Ryan> I was looking in add/remove programs
[09:24] <soulrider> i was just reading on wikipedia
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Didn't know Adept and Adept Installer were different
[09:24] <soulrider> and it doesnt seem to have many features
[09:24] <phobiac> Ahhh okay
[09:24] <soulrider> but im p[robably wrong
[09:24] <Daisuke_Ido> it's just ext2 with basic journalling
[09:25] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing inherently *bad* about it, but there are better ones out there, i'm sure
[09:25] <draco> jak jest partycja wymiany ???
[09:25] <Tm_T> draco: polski?
[09:25] <soulrider> !pl
[09:25] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:26] <draco> tak poslki
[09:26] <phobiac> Ahh, there. Everything back to normal. For some reason my firefox settings got messed with.
[09:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm still looking for a web development package on par with dreamweaver
[09:28] <Daisuke_Ido> nvu's nice
[09:30] <hatta> vim is pretty sweet
[09:32] <bonbonthejon> nano all the way
[09:32] <HymnToLife> kate :)
[09:33] <bonbonthejon> HymnToLife: well, if you work with a GUI, then yes kate is best
[09:37] <K-Ryan> Anyone else have trouble opening Frozen Bubble? I've tried opening it 3 times now.
[09:37] <K-Ryan> It loads, nothing opens, and the load thing disapears.
[09:39] <dokteurping> does anyone knows if there is a way to get blender in french?
[09:42] <miguel> hi!
[09:42] <phobiac> Hi
[09:43] <draco> hi
[09:44] <miguel> any one speak spanish?
[09:44] <phobiac> !spanish
[09:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:44] <juano> anyone help me with audicious? theres no volume when playing a cd! thanks
[09:45] <MementoMori> hi all
[09:45] <grubsgonewild> hi mentos
[09:45] <grubsgonewild> the fresh maker
[09:45] <phobiac> Hey
[09:46] <grubsgonewild> bububu
[09:46] <bonbonthejon> hi
[09:46] <phobiac> Hello
[09:46] <bonbonthejon> anyone know much about svn
[09:46] <grubsgonewild> crack is wack
[09:46] <bubu1uk> ok, here's the problem. by mistake erased file. any chance to recover it?
[09:46] <juano> anyone help me with audicious? theres no volume when playing a cd! thanks
[09:46] <phobiac> bubu1uk: Check the trash?
[09:46] <bubu1uk> phobiac: did it in console. rm file
[09:46] <phobiac> bonbon: What's your problem?
[09:47] <bonbonthejon> phobiac: i want to delete a repository
[09:47] <grubsgonewild> bonbonthejon, why what did it ever do to you?
[09:47] <phobiac> bonbon: You mean one in sources.list?
[09:47] <bubu1uk> phobiac: and no, it isn't in trash.
[09:47] <vinisterx> Greetings everyone.
[09:47] <bonbonthejon> phobiac: no, a repository on my svn server
[09:48] <phobiac> bubu1uk: Hmm, no idea. Sorry
[09:48] <phobiac> I know how to do it in windows.
[09:48] <phobiac> But that isn't much help.
[09:48] <phobiac> bonbon: I don't know how, but I'll check google for you.
[09:49] <bubu1uk> phobiac: on win would probably know it as well. lol.
[09:49] <bubu1uk> phobiac: thanx anyway.
[09:49] <phobiac> Sorry. You could search around for a file recoverer or something on google.
[09:50] <phobiac> I can check for you too
[09:51] <phobiac> I can't find anything about svn repo's. Maybe there's a file of them in your ~ folder.
[09:51] <phobiac> Look for any files with svn maybe.
[09:52] <phobiac> Aha, bub I may have found what you need
[09:52] <phobiac> Oh wait, this is all shareware
[09:52] <phobiac> http://www.sharewareconnection.com/titles/linux-file-recovery.htm
[09:53] <phobiac> Well it might help anyway.
[09:54] <sampan_> well i guess the mouse disappearance was a screensaver issue -- after the screensaver came back on, voila, i have my mouse again.  odd
[09:57] <K-Ryan> !sound
[09:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:57] <dromer> anybody know what libsdl I need for FretsOnFire to work properly? (the screen hangs alot during play)
[09:57] <dromer> http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/uv/fretsonfire/
[09:57] <Tm_T> dromer: Doesn't happen here.
[09:58] <dromer> Tm_T: mhat do you mean?
[09:58] <Tm_T> dromer: I mean it works just fine here.
[09:58] <dromer> ah ok
[09:58] <gemidjy> !openchrome
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openchrome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <dromer> I don't need a special kind of libsdl?
[09:59] <Tm_T> Shouldn't.
[09:59] <dromer> Tm_T: I find it's especially when multiple key's are pressed
[09:59] <freshburn> is there a norton ghost like app for linux? or a way to make an exact clone of an install (edgy kubuntu) and put on another pc?
[09:59] <dromer> but that's prob because this pc is kind of sloew :#
[10:00] <dromer> Tm_T: pIII 800mhz 512mb GeFiorce2MX :$
[10:00] <binks> !FretsOnFire
[10:00] <Tm_T> dromer: Smaller displaysize etc, it can be pretty heavy.
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about FretsOnFire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <fdoving> freshburn: yes, you have some alternatives; partimage, mondorescue, systemimager are examples. I like mondo rescue.D[D[D[D[D[D[D
[10:00] <freshburn> is there one installed by default on kubuntu edgy
[10:00] <freshburn> i.e. partimage
[10:01] <Tm_T> dromer: But admit, lots of good stuff comes from Finland. ;)
[10:01] <dromer> Tm_T: it's at 640x480 (standard) and put the framerate at about 40 I think, alos but ****** on 2x (can't remember what it;s called)
[10:01] <dromer> Tm_T: yeah it ROCKS \m/
[10:01] <fdoving> freshburn: i belive you have to install it.
[10:01] <Tm_T> dromer: Antialiasing?!
[10:01] <dromer> hmm, yes ? :)
[10:01] <dromer> something like that :P
[10:01] <Tm_T> dromer: Drop it, drop it now.
[10:02] <freshburn> i want to make an identical copy of my desktop and put onto my laptop do the partition sizes have to be exactly the same?
[10:02] <dromer> Tm_T: drop what? :#
[10:02] <freshburn> better yet i have winhex on my xp and both machine dual boot is it possible with that?
[10:02] <Tm_T> dromer: Biggest load there is propably that AA, so put it off.
[10:02] <dromer> Tm_T: completely? ok
[10:02] <dromer> I'll see if it helps :)
[10:03] <dromer> it's on 4x standard
[10:03] <dromer> my amd1,4 1024 gf6200 likes it fine ;)
[10:03] <Tm_T> dromer: Yup, and that can slow down my system too, even if I can play Doom 3 etc...
[10:03] <dromer> ok
[10:03] <dromer> I hardly play any other games, any reccomends for that low-end system? :)
[10:04] <dromer> Tm_T: I made it as a htpc for the kitchen/living
[10:04] <dromer> but this game rocks for that :)
[10:04] <dromer> I'd like some other cool games on it if possible
[10:04] <Tm_T> dromer: Well, Tuxracer, SuperTux, Wesnoth... there's more.
[10:04] <Tm_T> Frozen Bubble2 !
[10:04] <dromer> hmm
[10:04] <dromer> haha
[10:04] <freshburn> dromer what game are you talking about?
[10:05] <dromer> freshburn: FretsOnFire \m/
[10:05] <Tm_T> But sleep now, behave kids. ->
[10:05] <dromer> Tm_T: I'm checking to drop the antializing
[10:05] <dromer> thnx for the tips ;)
[10:05] <dromer> later o/
[10:09] <angel_> my floppy not work.. :( help me please!
[10:10] <K-Ryan> !flash
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:11] <angel_> my floppy not work
[10:11] <juano> why cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??
[10:11] <freshburn> if anyone has an HP pavilion 4900 with BCM9430 wireless and made it work please talk to me
[10:11] <juano> in an audio cd i mean
[10:11] <N6REJ> anyone know how to boot into safe mode?
[10:12] <freshburn> hold F8 lol i kidding
[10:12] <N6REJ> lol
[10:12] <juano> N6REJ: yes, end current session and from session login window select session and then gnome safemode
[10:12] <Dasnipa`> shift backspace?
[10:12] <juano> N6REJ: then login
[10:13] <N6REJ> juano: nope, not an option, this is at boot time... somehow the power plug got pulled and its crashed.
[10:13] <bobleny> Hey, I installed Apache, but have no idea where the folder is on my computer, do you know where it would have installed?
[10:13] <juano> N6REJ: oh, is there an option at grub??
[10:13] <juano> maybe
[10:13] <hassan2a> hyper_ch:  ?
[10:13] <N6REJ> so I need to kill some obtuse PID thats preventing it from starting... we figured out how to start in recovery mode.
[10:13] <N6REJ> but not sure what to do from there.
[10:14] <freshburn> recovery mode brings you to a root shell right?
[10:14] <N6REJ> juano: yeah, I just kept missing it. I hope recovery figures things out itself.
[10:14] <N6REJ> freshburn: yes
[10:15] <freshburn> would the kill command work? on another point whats the difference between KILL and TERM
[10:15] <N6REJ> I've got a # prompt
[10:15] <freshburn> but dont take my advice im newb
[10:15] <freshburn> but i remember things i read
[10:15] <aib> what package do I need on ubuntu for a traceroute like program
[10:16] <N6REJ> aib it should be installed already
[10:16] <aib> it's not
[10:16] <aib> at least it's not called traceroute
[10:16] <N6REJ> tracert?
[10:16] <lupine_85> !traceroute
[10:16] <K-Ryan> !shockwave
[10:16] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[10:16] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[10:16] <lupine_85> :p
[10:16] <bobleny> !Bots are intellgent
[10:16] <N6REJ> lol
[10:16] <K-Ryan> !wine
[10:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:16] <juano> anyone knows why cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??
[10:16] <N6REJ> hey bobleny
[10:16] <aib> k got it, thanks
[10:17] <N6REJ> I'm stuck in recovery and not sure what to do now.
[10:17] <N6REJ> !recovery
[10:17] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[10:17] <N6REJ> BAH!
[10:17] <juano> LOL
[10:18] <Dr_willis> 'broken' how technical.
[10:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:18] <freshburn> is anyone familiar with partimage
[10:18] <N6REJ> stupid bot... I'm scared to do THAT because we just got this thing going yesterday and haven't had a chance to do a backup yet *sigh*
[10:19] <bobleny> Ok, tell me your problem...
[10:20] <N6REJ> bobleny: power plug got yanked on server somehow... so when rebooting it said "can't kill PID" and gave a process, we just rebooted into recovery and restarted the server.
[10:20] <hassan2a> qui a trackmania nation ?
[10:20] <juano> anyone knows why cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??
[10:20] <N6REJ> !es | hassan2a
[10:20] <ubotu> hassan2a: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:20] <N6REJ> !french
[10:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:21] <N6REJ> bobleny: its up :D  I wish winblows fixed itself that easy >... WHEW... now I need a good backup util.
[10:21] <hassan2a> !english
[10:21] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:21] <hassan2a> !french
[10:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:22] <hassan2a> :spanish
[10:22] <hassan2a> !spanich
[10:22] <bobleny> Have you tried a simply restart, skiping recovery mode?
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanich - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <juano> anyone knows why cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??
[10:22] <heinkel_112> what kind of process is klash?
[10:22] <heinkel_112> ah
[10:23] <doudoo> hello all
[10:23] <heinkel_112> now i know
[10:23] <doudoo> hello all
[10:23] <doudoo> I have a dell laptop core 2 duo 2GHz and quadro nvs
[10:23] <doudoo> the problem is that the ventilator is running all the time
[10:23] <doudoo> and it's not in windows
[10:23] <doudoo> can somebody help me?
[10:24] <bobleny> doudoo, the problem is simple, "dell" lol
[10:24] <doudoo> ???
[10:24] <doudoo> why do you say that ?
[10:24] <doudoo> that's the best laptop I ever used
[10:24] <bobleny> I'm jokeing
[10:25] <N6REJ> bobleny: I need to do a full backup, do you have any clue the best backup to use?
[10:25] <bobleny> I have no idea whats a ventilator is...
[10:25] <N6REJ> bobleny: its something they use to keep you breathing when your dead :P
[10:25] <freshburn> i need to do a full backup of kubuntu edgy that can be restored over top of a fresh edgy install on another pc
[10:26] <N6REJ> !backup
[10:26] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:27] <bobleny> N6RE, see, ubotu smart....
[10:27] <freshburn> !cloning
[10:27] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[10:27] <dromer> hmm, in FretsOnFire, when I return from fullscreen 640x480, X is still in 640x480 and doesn't change back to normal display
[10:28] <LuisMi> my floppy not work.. :(
[10:28] <PupenoR> Was Amarok's support for gstreamer removed in Kubuntu ?
[10:28] <freshburn> !sbackup
[10:28] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[10:28] <freshburn> luismi they have a little blue pill for that j/k
[10:28] <N6REJ> SWEET!
[10:29] <N6REJ> !floppy | LuisMi
[10:29] <ubotu> LuisMi: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[10:29] <freshburn> ok now you find mine n6rej
[10:29] <freshburn> lol
[10:29] <N6REJ> freshburn: yours is incremental, this one...
[10:29] <N6REJ> !cloning
[10:29] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[10:29] <bubu1uk> doudoo: for ur issue, is acpi support installed and working? not sure if that helps, but might.
[10:30] <doudoo> what is acpi please?
[10:30] <freshburn> my idea of "cloning" does NOT involve d/l'ing all the packages over my dialup connection again
[10:30] <freshburn> i want something i can burn to dvd and use to restore my system every time i screw stuff up
[10:30] <N6REJ> lol I don't think its saying that.... oh, I would use sbackup I think... I'm loooking now.
[10:30] <freshburn> i could use winhex but i need a reliabel way to read ext3 partitions with XP
[10:31] <doudoo> acpi is installed
[10:31] <LuisMi> thanks 4ubotu
[10:31] <dwidmann> another thing you could do, freshburn, would be to burn all of the cached package files in /var/cache/apt/archives, which would probably be most of it if you don't apt-get clean often
[10:31] <barjoh10> hello jerry
[10:31] <barjoh10> how r  u jerry
[10:31] <Dr_willis> freshburn,  i use that ext2-ifs stuff to let xp read/write to my linux drives.
[10:32] <manu_> i have generally with linux a problem, wehn i'm copying big data on a usb stick or mp3 player (ipod,...) then has the gui (konqueror finished) but the usb stick is still working, while this i can unmount the device without errors, data is not lost, only when i cut the connection between it and the pc while he is saving the data (LED, display)
[10:32] <manu_> i have this problem under debian sid kanotix
[10:32] <manu_> and now too with (k)ubuntu edgy
[10:32] <gerald_> yes
[10:32] <manu_> i think all my usb is 2.0
[10:32] <freshburn> !ext2-ifs
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2-ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <freshburn> but isnt it ext3 not ext2? what the diff?
[10:33] <dwidmann> manu, I think I've heard of that before, unfortunately I haven't heard of a fix though
[10:33] <lupine_85> ext3 has a journal
[10:33] <freshburn> i think i only need read access to the linux partitions
[10:33] <freshburn> so using a ext2 software to read the ext3 partition shouldnt damage anything?
[10:33] <barjoh10> hello anyone
[10:34] <freshburn> hi
[10:34] <gerald_> hi
[10:34] <barjoh10> hi guys
[10:34] <barjoh10> (i hope u r tlaking to me)
[10:34] <gerald_> yes
[10:35] <freshburn> i talk to ne1 thatlistens i have alot to say
[10:35] <gerald_> about what
[10:36] <juano> anyone knows why cant i see the .cda files when i enter Storage media and then cdrom0??
[10:36] <freshburn> whatever is currently on tv usually
[10:36] <freshburn> lol i love tivo
[10:36] <dwidmann> juano, is cdrom0  mounted?
[10:36] <barjoh10> hey freshburn were are u from
[10:36] <freshburn> greatest thing to happen to tv since color
[10:36] <juano> dwidmann: yes, i can play it with kaffeine
[10:37] <juano> dwidmann: but i want to explore it
[10:37] <dwidmann> doesn't necessarily mean it's mounted
[10:37] <K-Ryan> !mp3streams
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3streams - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <dwidmann> what files do you see when you navigate to /media/cdrom0 juano?
[10:37] <K-Ryan> Anyone know any programs to play mp3 streams with?
[10:37] <juano> dwidmann: none
[10:37] <dwidmann> K-Ryan: amarok?
[10:37] <K-Ryan> Doesn't work for me
[10:37] <K-Ryan> I open the stream, hear nothing.
[10:38] <dwidmann> juano: type this in konsole, then check it again: mount /media/cdrom0
[10:38] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, how about Kaffeine?
[10:38] <juano> dwidmann: but when i open audacious, it starts playing them but theres no volume, only volume in kaffeine
[10:38] <juano> dwidmann: ok ill check
[10:38] <K-Ryan> Don't know, I think I tried it, lemme try again
[10:38] <barjoh10> dj darkman hello
[10:39] <barjoh10> Ppjet6 hello
[10:39] <juano> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1753/
[10:39] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: xmms will play streams 4 u.
[10:39] <Ppjet6> hello barjoh10
[10:39] <K-Ryan> let me try that, havent tried that yet...
[10:40] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: if u download plugin 4 it.
[10:40] <K-Ryan> ah, get it through adept?
[10:40] <barjoh10> helloPpjet how r u
[10:40] <Ppjet6> barjoh10, fine, you ?
[10:40] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: also u can try streamtuner. nice app that can search shoutcast stations 4 u
[10:40] <dwidmann> juano, do you get that with all audio cds?
[10:40] <juano> dwidmann: yea
[10:41] <dwidmann> K-Ryan: kaffeine should be installed by default in kubuntu, otherwise adept will work well
[10:41] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: yes, u can download/install it thru adept
[10:41] <K-Ryan> I have Kaffeine
[10:41] <barjoh10> atlast i got to talk to someone(i mean if u want to talk)
[10:41] <K-Ryan> But I don't think the streams worked, I'm trying again
[10:41] <enrage> Hello everyone. I'm looking for some help setting up a connection bridge.
[10:41] <wolfwalker> So, two questions
[10:41] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: also do u have multimedia support installed on ur system? then kaffeine will play most of stuff easily
[10:41] <wolfwalker> 1. Which is better, ubuntu or kubuntu, and why?
[10:41] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: neither
[10:41] <juano> dwidmann: i installed a package recently called cdfs
[10:41] <dwidmann> juano, that's odd, I've never had that problem
[10:41] <K-Ryan> !multimedia support
[10:42] <freshburn> wolfwalker depends on if you like kde or gnome
[10:42] <doudoo> kde vs gnome : the return !!!
[10:42] <juano> dwidmann: let me uninstall that
[10:42] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: same distro, except different desktop
[10:42] <dwidmann> juano, if you were to remove cdfs, would it work? could be worth a try
[10:42] <K-Ryan> Don't have multimedia support unless it's a default program
[10:42] <freshburn> it comes down to which color you like more orange or blue they both are capable of the same things
[10:42] <wolfwalker> 2. I have seen people say swap partition of twice your ram up to a gig. Why only up to a gig? What is the downside of three gigs of Linux version vram?
[10:42] <barjoh10> iam finePpjet
[10:42] <juano> dwidmann: yeah.. let me give it a shot
[10:42] <K-Ryan> yeah, missing plugins it seems
[10:42] <mildner> hi is anybody fit to configure my winTV-HVR900 USB stickl
[10:43] <wolfwalker> So ubuntu and kubuntu run the same programs?
[10:43] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: cuz u dont need that much. generaly, there's no downside
[10:43] <K-Ryan> Not by default
[10:43] <K-Ryan> But they can wlfwalker
[10:43] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, do you ahve libxine-extracodecs installed, you probably need it to play back mp3s
[10:43] <barjoh10>  I hope u want to talk with me
[10:43] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: well, yes,
[10:43] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: and no.
[10:43] <K-Ryan> Probably not dwidmann, I'll get it now
[10:43] <freshburn> they have different apps installed by default but both are capable of running the same softwares
[10:43] <freshburn> i would get livecds of each and test them both thats how i finally decided
[10:43] <wolfwalker> That's what I was wondering. Same program repositories, same programs are installable?
[10:44] <freshburn> each has thier own little quirks and bugs
[10:44] <juano> dwidmann: i tried this : sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0
[10:44] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:44] <juano> dwidmann: i got this
[10:44] <juano> mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:44] <juano> mount: /dev/hdb: can't read superblock
[10:44] <barjoh10> hello sebbar
[10:44] <bubu1uk> look for multimedia
[10:44] <K-Ryan> I'm downloading the codecs now
[10:44] <dwidmann> juano: you didn't need the sudo to mount a cd, anyhow, hmmmmmm, it's saying it can't read the cd, that's odd
[10:44] <K-Ryan> Let me see if that fixes it first =P
[10:44] <freshburn> wolfwalker yes, that is also something that confused me as a newb, i thought it was like a windows / mac thing where they were not compatible but i was very wrong
[10:44] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: u can actually have both gnome and kde isntalled
[10:44] <mildner> hi is anybody fit to configure winTV-HVR900 USB stick
[10:44] <dwidmann> juano, try it with a different audio cd
[10:44] <juano> dwidmann: ok
[10:45] <barjoh10> hello anyone
[10:45] <barjoh10> how r u
[10:45] <wolfwalker> What I'm beating around the bush about is............. if I find a program compiled for ubuntu, can I install it to kubuntu?
[10:45] <sebbar> barjoh10: hello :)
[10:45] <Theory> wolfwalker: yes
[10:45] <wolfwalker> Yes, in theory
[10:45] <wolfwalker> lol
[10:45] <wolfwalker> Sorry, couldn't pass that one up
[10:45] <barjoh10> hello sebbar
[10:45] <gdiebel> wolfwalker: they are the same thing
[10:45] <dwidmann> it can, so long as the packager did a good job
[10:46] <juano> dwidmann: i need sudo cause without sudo i get this : mount: only root can do that
[10:46] <juano> dwidmann: i tried with another cd and same error
[10:46] <barjoh10> i hope u want to talk about something sebbar
[10:46] <K-Ryan> Kaffeine plays now, thanks dwidmann, the codecs fixed it
[10:46] <dwidmann> juano, hmm, I don't get that error, odd at any rate, why do you need to see the *.cda files anyhow?
[10:47] <wolfwalker> So if I'm running on two 600 megahertz Pentium III processors, more than a gig of swap would not benefit?
[10:47] <freshburn> my question of which color you prefer orange or blue is VERY accurate in describing the differences under the hood
[10:47] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: dont' think so
[10:47] <dwidmann> wolfwalkder, the processor power is not the question, but how much memory you have that is
[10:47] <freshburn> also the fact that you can isntall ubuntu and change it into kubuntu and vice versa also shows the simularity
[10:47] <K-Ryan> !sound
[10:47] <juano> dwidmann: well actually i dont, my real problem is that audacious when it plays cd the tracks seem good, time appears and even p[lays except with no volume!
[10:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:47] <wolfwalker> So ram directly affects useability of vram?
[10:47] <dwidmann> if you've got 512mb or less of ram wolfwalker, you should invest in some swap
[10:47] <juano> dwidmann: in kaffeine they play fine
[10:47] <manu_> dwidmann: ah interesting,... because none of my "linux friends" has heared ever of this problem and so i thought its my fault^^, have you some more information? depends it on hardware (in google i havent found anything, or do i search wrong?)
[10:48] <dwidmann> jauno, I think I know why
[10:48] <juano> dwidmann: why is that?
[10:48] <wolfwalker> In other words, the less ram you have, the less swap you can use effectively?
[10:49] <sebbar> barjoh10: not really, too much work to do sorry :)
[10:49] <dwidmann> juano, something along the lines of an old way of doing things ... a wire being run from the cd drive to the sound or graphics card, or something like that, required to make it play back in a certain way. It will work if you've got that, and won't if you don't. IIRC
[10:49] <juano> dwidmann: darn, now that im trying not even data cds will appear in /media/cdrom0
[10:49] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, my friend is having sound trouble on his laptop. I checked the system stuff and under sound it says there is no sound device. Obviously it isn't being recognized, will this DmixPlugin fix it?
[10:49] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: as easiest answer for u to easiest to understand. linux writes to swap not currently used stuff from ram when it needs to free it a bit.
[10:49] <dwidmann> manu, I can't remember really, let me grep my logs and see what it was all about
[10:49] <barjoh10> o kay sebbar bye
[10:50] <portuga> alguien q hable en espaol?
[10:50] <bubu1uk> !es
[10:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:50] <wolfwalker> lol
[10:50] <wolfwalker> That bot is extremely useful I see
[10:50] <K-Ryan> Very VERY useful
[10:50] <dwidmann> juano, that's a really odd problem
[10:50] <juano> dwidmann: oohh no no its ok
[10:51] <juano> dwidmann: data cd works
[10:51] <K-Ryan> Anyone know if DmixPlugin will solve an unrecognized sound card?
[10:51] <freshburn> i hear alot about subversion and compiz what are they?
[10:51] <juano> dwidmann: had to refresh window
[10:51] <dwidmann> doh
[10:51] <bubu1uk> !compiz
[10:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:51] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, which sound card is it?
[10:51] <K-Ryan> Don't know, I think it's integrated into his laptop.
[10:52] <katabatic> anybody here use a laptop with Phoenix BIOS????
[10:52] <dwidmann> I'm not sure if it would or not K-Ryan, worth a try I suppose
[10:52] <K-Ryan> Okay, well for some reason the site won't load
[10:52] <K-Ryan> !sound
[10:52] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:52] <K-Ryan> Try it
[10:53] <ScarFreewill> !ubiquity
[10:53] <ubotu> ubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.5 (edgy), package size 1594 kB, installed size 6188 kB
[10:53] <dwidmann> if it is going to load, it's certainly taking its sweet time K-Ryan
[10:53] <K-Ryan> Yes I know
[10:54] <juano> dwidmann: still no audio cd exploring
[10:54] <tamacracka> Hey guys, is there a script for GAIM that will show what I'm now playin on Amarok?
[10:54] <bubu1uk> tamacracka: u can search for some plugins, but doubt it.
[10:54] <bubu1uk> tamacracka: i havent heard of any.
[10:55] <JosefK> hey, just wondering if anyone's tried kubuntu feisty herd 2 yet?
[10:55] <tamacracka> what kinda plug ins are for GAIM?
[10:55] <bubu1uk> tamacracka: dont know. dont use it. google it
[10:55] <tamacracka> ok
[10:56] <K-Ryan> It still hasn't loaded... Trying adept...
[10:56] <wolfwalker> Thanks y'all for the input. Gonna fight with my Kubuntu some more. May even bring it online and go shopping for programs.
[10:57] <wolfwalker> Any suggestions for really good programs I should look at?
[10:57] <dwidmann> juano, grep /media/cdrom0 /etc/fstab
[10:57] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: u dont have to shop for programs on linux. forgoten open source idea?
[10:57] <josh_> what somewhat new games run in linux natively
[10:57] <wolfwalker> I used "shop" in the figurative sense
[10:58] <juano> dwidmann: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:58] <bubu1uk> lol
[10:58] <K-Ryan> bubu1uk I think he just wanted to know what was good to use. =P
[10:58] <wolfwalker> As in, I'm going to look for any that catch my eye
[10:58] <dwidmann> I thought wolfwalker was being sarcastic, pretty funny actually
[10:58] <josh_> i'm doing a huge linux speech for english and i need to know
[10:58] <katabatic> can anybody help me getting my screen to dim and/or hotkeys to work on a Toshiba laptop with Phoenix BIOS?
[10:58] <wolfwalker> josh, depends on the distro
[10:58] <josh_> k well lets say ubuntu
[10:58] <juano> dwidmann: weird, it doesnt appear in mtab though
[10:58] <bubu1uk> wolfwalker: kubuntu have over 20000 packages, what u want us to recomend?
[10:59] <dwidmann> juano: well, if it's not in mtab, you know what that means
[10:59] <wolfwalker> Josh, download knoppix and burn it as an iso, it has a lot of games that come with it
[10:59] <josh_> i know doom 3, all the unreal's, and all the games based off of unreal
[10:59] <juano> dwidmann: lol yea.. i need to add the line there
[10:59] <freshburn> has ne1 used win4lin?
[10:59] <dwidmann> Nay, it means that mounting it failed
[10:59] <katabatic> wolfwalker, I think he's talking about REAL games ;)
[10:59] <josh_> yeah, like mainstream games
[10:59] <dwidmann> and quite miserably I might add
[10:59] <josh_> not open source ones
[10:59] <wolfwalker> Ah, real games
[10:59] <josh_> ones that run on linux natively
[10:59] <dwidmann> quake4 :)
[11:00] <freshburn> is it worth the money if I have to use xp and am sick of dualbooting?
[11:00] <josh_> and i'm gonna mension WINE too
[11:00] <josh_> after
[11:00] <wolfwalker> wine rocks!
[11:00] <josh_> do all of the quake games run in linux
[11:00] <dwidmann> yup
[11:00] <josh_> prey too right?
[11:00] <wolfwalker> Much honor to all who contributed to wine
[11:00] <katabatic> I think there is one called something Enemy Territory that runs native on Linux, right?
[11:01] <bubu1uk> katabatic: yes
[11:01] <katabatic> honestly I'd just dual boot
[11:01] <katabatic> for games
[11:01] <josh_> yeah
[11:01] <josh_> wolfenstein
[11:01] <katabatic> for the non native ones
[11:01] <josh_> i said that
[11:01] <bubu1uk> honestly,
[11:01] <bubu1uk> i dont play games. lol
[11:01] <wolfwalker> If you are very rabidly anti-Windows, it can be painful if you're a gamer
[11:01] <freshburn> dwidmann do you dual boot to play quake4
[11:01] <josh_> what games run on the unreal engine
[11:02] <josh_> cuz all the unreal engine is coded for opengl and dx9
[11:02] <katabatic> can anybody help me getting my screen to dim and/or hotkeys to work on a Toshiba laptop with Phoenix BIOS?
[11:02] <josh_> i think ut2007 will be able to run in linux too
[11:02] <dwidmann> freshburn, no
[11:02] <dwidmann> quake4 is native :)
[11:02] <josh_> i got that one
[11:02] <josh_> 1-4 are all native
[11:02] <dwidmann> along with the otehr quakes
[11:03] <josh_> what else
[11:03] <katabatic> I think a google search would be best, jash
[11:03] <katabatic> josh
[11:04] <josh_> lol
[11:04] <josh_> yeah i know
[11:04] <josh_> but there are others
[11:04] <katabatic> linux native games
[11:04] <K-Ryan> josh, there was a big list on wikipedia
[11:04] <josh_> oh link me plz
[11:04] <K-Ryan> I think it was titled "Linux Games"
[11:04] <dwidmann> manu, if you're still around, I think I've found something in my logs
[11:04] <K-Ryan> I'll nab it for you
[11:04] <dwidmann> or manu_, if you're around too
[11:04] <juano> dwidmann: well any ideas?
[11:04] <chazco> hi, can anyone point me to the blue-blends wallpaper?
[11:05] <dwidmann> juano, I'm not sure yet, I'm probing my brain for ideas now
[11:05] <Dr_willis> chazco, kde-look.org perhaps?
[11:05] <beels15> jemand online ?
[11:05] <chazco> i've checked, cant find it there
[11:05] <K-Ryan> josh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_games
[11:05] <K-Ryan> Enjoy
[11:05] <freshburn> l8tr all
[11:05] <juano> dwidmann: heh ok
[11:06] <K-Ryan> Yeah that should be good enough for you josh
[11:07] <manu_> dwidmann: i'm still here
[11:07] <dwidmann> juano, well well, I've found our problem, I thinks
[11:07] <josh_> ok
[11:07] <josh_> now
[11:07] <juano> dwidmann: really
[11:07] <beels15> giebt es eine seite auf deutsch ?
[11:07] <josh_> what windows games work well in wine?
[11:07] <dwidmann> unfortunately, I'm not sure about a solutionk, I know I didn't have this problem in dapper ....
[11:08] <K-Ryan> Should be any from what I've heard
[11:08] <dwidmann> !paste | dwidmann
[11:08] <ubotu> dwidmann: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:08] <K-Ryan> I've yet to use it yet, otherwise I could completely tell you.
[11:08] <XVampireX> Hey, can anyone help me fix this?
[11:08] <manu_> hm all my alternative nicks are used, so i go back to manu_, if you wrte my full name i can see your messages blinking^^
[11:08] <K-Ryan> XVampireX, what is "this"?
[11:08] <XVampireX> Preparing to replace wpasupplicant 0.5.5-3v1ubuntu4 (using .../wpasupplicant_0.5.7+3v1ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...
[11:08] <XVampireX> Unpacking replacement wpasupplicant ...
[11:08] <XVampireX> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[11:08] <XVampireX> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
[11:08] <XVampireX> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wpasupplicant_0.5.7+3v1ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:08] <XVampireX>  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[11:09] <XVampireX> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[11:09] <XVampireX>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[11:09] <XVampireX> sorry :P
[11:09] <XVampireX> I don't really need it though, so if you can help me at the very least remove it....
[11:09] <beels15> is here chatroom off german ?
[11:09] <tsdgeos> !de
[11:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:10] <dwidmann> the !@#$!#$^@#%^&#%^%!@#@ pastebin is deciding to not let me use it, so I guess I'll have to use private messages juano, manu
[11:10] <K-Ryan> It's okay, wish I could help you with that. I only know how to fix the problems I've had, and I'm new so I haven't had too many yet.
[11:10] <juano> dwidmann: ok pm me
[11:10] <josh_> maybe
[11:10] <josh_> #cedega
[11:10] <manu_> dwidmann: what have you found in your logs?
[11:10] <josh_> #games
[11:10] <XVampireX> gonna put it in pastebin
[11:11] <XVampireX> dwidmann: try pastebin.ca
[11:11] <K-Ryan> !games
[11:11] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:11] <K-Ryan> Try those josh
[11:11] <dwidmann> manu_, one sec
[11:12] <dwidmann> manu_, crap, I lost it :(
[11:12] <manu_> dwidmann: keep cool, no stress, i only didnt know if you got my answer
[11:12] <manu_> hm
[11:13] <dwidmann> XVampireX, yes, though it's really annoying that the pastebin decides to say that everything is spam, and doesn't let people paste to it
[11:17] <kkosmo> !nviduia
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nviduia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <kkosmo> !nvidia
[11:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <K-Ryan> !sound
[11:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:18] <josh_> !steam
[11:18] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[11:18] <K-Ryan> Steam isn't supported by Linux
[11:18] <josh_> i want to run steam on linux but no text or anything is showing
[11:18] <K-Ryan> Err, Steam doesn't support Linux
[11:18] <josh_> wine obviously
[11:18] <K-Ryan> Have to use Wine
[11:19] <josh_> yeah
[11:19] <josh_> but its not working
[11:19] <josh_> tehre's no text or anything
[11:19] <K-Ryan> Try the forum?
[11:19] <K-Ryan> I think I saw a Wine compatibility thread somewhere on there
[11:20] <kkosmo> steam support good in wine
[11:20] <kkosmo> but i dont know how
[11:21] <josh_> in the window it said html rendering is off
[11:21] <josh_> how do i fix that
[11:22] <josh_> should i restart computer?
[11:23] <K-Ryan> You probably need html rendering
[11:23] <K-Ryan> and I don't know if this is the reason, but Steam uses the IE engine for its browser
[11:24] <chuck__> the nvidia web page seems like it's messed up right now. anyone know where i can get the latest nvidia display drivers? that do-able with apt-get?
[11:24] <kkosmo> !nivida
[11:25] <kkosmo> !nvidia
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nivida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:25] <chuck__> haha thanks
[11:25] <kkosmo> =] 
[11:25] <chuck__> did i just break a rule?
[11:26] <katabatic> can anybody help me getting my screen to dim and/or hotkeys to work on a Toshiba laptop with Phoenix BIOS?
[11:26] <K-Ryan> what kind of hotkeys?
[11:26] <kkosmo> what do you mean you break a rule
[11:26] <kkosmo> ?
[11:26] <K-Ryan> hotkeys on the keyboard?
[11:26] <katabatic> FN
[11:27] <K-Ryan> My friend sitting next to me, his FN stuff doesn't work either.
[11:27] <K-Ryan> !hotkeys
[11:27] <kkosmo> a
[11:27] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 384 kB
[11:27] <endo602> hello
[11:27] <K-Ryan> If you are running edgy you can try that
[11:27] <dwidmann> manu_ I think I've actually got it this time
[11:28] <endo602> i am having a problem login into x
[11:28] <endo602> dwidmann that nvidia problem is messing with me big time
[11:28] <beels15> please help me my workbar is off and my chanelbar is off i would like standart from Konversatiounspg.
[11:29] <endo602> i get to the login window and i enter my password but the screen just flickers and brings me back to the login window
[11:29] <katabatic> Ineed my screen to dim, more importantly
[11:29] <dwidmann> endo602, still? hmmmmmm
[11:29] <K-Ryan> I think you can manage that in system settings
[11:29] <endo602> dwidmann yah
[11:29] <K-Ryan> I'll look around it
[11:29] <dwidmann> manu_ seems a fix wasn't mentioned htough
[11:29] <endo602> now i cant log into xwindows
[11:30] <katabatic> K-Ryan, no
[11:30] <katabatic> not on mine
[11:30] <katabatic> won't work
[11:30] <K-Ryan> No, under Kubuntu
[11:30] <K-Ryan> K Menu>System Settings
[11:30] <dwidmann> endo602, that's an odd place for it to be failing you at, what type of session are you trying to log into, a regular kwin session?
[11:30] <K-Ryan> I'm looking through it now
[11:30] <endo602> yes
[11:31] <K-Ryan> Maybe not, I can't find anything for screen dimming.
[11:31] <Schuenemann> I get no sound while playing FLV files in Kaffeine, any ideas on that?
[11:31] <manu_> dwidmann: if you have a detailed description i will postit in a german forum (ubuntuusers.de) because i like german help better (it is my mother language)
[11:31] <dwidmann> endo602, I'm starting to run out of ideas then :\ I would think that setting up the drives with envy would work, it never gave me any trouble before
[11:32] <endo602> how do i uninstall drivers?
[11:32] <dwidmann> manu: it wasn't too detailed, just that there isn't any protection from things like accidental removal and the like
[11:33] <dwidmann> I wish I could find the rest of the conversation about it though, but that's a huge log to be searching
[11:33] <dwidmann> I think it was last month, but I can't be sure :\
[11:33] <endo602> :)
[11:33] <endo602> i logged in via recovery console
[11:34] <Schuenemann> I get no sound while playing FLV files in Kaffeine, any ideas on what should I do?
[11:34] <media> hello...  How do I get the boot option vga=771 into grub?
[11:34] <dwidmann> endo602, hmmm, I wonder if envy has an option for removal, if it does, then perhaps you could do that, then install nvidia-glx
[11:34] <casev01> how can i use apt-build?
[11:35] <endo602> when i use envy my screen goes blank
[11:35] <endo602> when i choose to uninstall
[11:35] <grumbly> anyone?
[11:35] <mineur> what's the prob grumbly?
[11:36] <grumbly> How do I get the boot option vga=771 into grub?
[11:36] <Schuenemann> editting grub's file?
[11:36] <grumbly> i'm new to linux, and my freebsd never used grub
[11:37] <mineur> just add it to the config file
[11:37] <grumbly> where is the config? /etc or /boot
[11:37] <Mez> ^menu.lst
[11:37] <mikki> i need help to install poweriso
[11:37] <endo602> side question
[11:37] <Mez> !menu.lst
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <endo602> when i bind directories
[11:37] <Mez> grumbly - see /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:37] <mineur> in /boot/grub I think
[11:37] <grumbly> thanks
[11:37] <Schuenemann>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:37] <endo602> do i have to do it every time i reboot
[11:37] <mineur> there you see a line kernel blabla just add the option
[11:37] <Shaezsche> is there a command i can use to disable my wireless?
[11:38] <Shaezsche> sudo ifdown eth1 doesnt seem to to work, as iwconfig still reports stats
[11:38] <Mez> Shaezsche - sudo ifdown wlan0
[11:38] <Shaezsche> i dont have a wlan0
[11:38] <Shaezsche> just eth1
[11:38] <Mez> you sure eth1 = wireless?
[11:38] <Shaezsche> very sure
[11:39] <Shaezsche> when i iwconfig it gives me stats, signal strength and network name
[11:39] <Mez> Shaezsche - try - ifconfig eth1 down
[11:39] <Shaezsche> in fact my stupid card associates with ANY network
[11:39] <mikki> how do i install the file poweriso-1.1.tar.gz ???
[11:39] <Mez> Shaezsche - should eb in ifconfig that it shows it as down
[11:39] <Shaezsche> is it possible to not have it start up at boot?
[11:39] <mineur> maybe some other application enabling it again?
[11:39] <r3vo> hey, if i want to do a fresh install of kubuntu over an existing ubuntu system should i just tell the installer to format my swap and / partitions?
[11:39] <Mez> Shaezsche - comment it out of /etc/network/interfaces
[11:39] <Shaezsche> just before the eth1 or before the comand below eth1
[11:40] <Shaezsche> i tried that once, and iwconfig still showed it connected to a network
[11:40] <Mez> all of them
[11:40] <Schuenemann> I get no sound while playing FLV files in Kaffeine, any ideas on what should I do?
[11:40] <Mez> #auto eth1 inet static
[11:41] <mikki> how do i install the file poweriso-1.1.tar.gz ???
[11:41] <Mez> #iface eth1
[11:41] <Mez> !targz > mikki
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about targz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <Mez> !tar.gz > mikki
[11:41] <mineur> mikki: gunzip poweriso then untar poweriso, then read the README :)
[11:42] <josh_> how is linux gonna work with DX10 games?
[11:42] <josh_> that's gonna be hard to get into wine or cedega
[11:42] <klees> how can i add Konsole to my right-click desktop menu???
[11:42] <manu_> bye gn8
[11:42] <katabatic> can anybody help me getting my screen to dim and/or FN hotkeys to work on a Toshiba laptop with Phoenix BIOS?
[11:43] <Mez> mineur - why two seperate actions when you can tar -zxf ?
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> linux probably won't work with DX10 games, at least not right away
[11:43] <mineur> good point :d
[11:43] <Mez> Daisuke_Ido - some progress for DX10 has been made by cedega
[11:43] <klees> how can i add Konsole to my right-click desktop menu???
[11:43] <grumbly> ok, so i found the file- woud I just specify on the kernel line vga=771 like i did at install time?
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a plus
[11:43] <josh_> how about wine
[11:43] <mikki> mineur: untar ?
[11:43] <mineur> yep grumbly
[11:43] <grumbly> sweet
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> if they could just get The Longest Journey working, i'd be thrilled
[11:43] <mineur> tar -xvf
[11:43] <mineur> :)
[11:43] <grumbly> thanks for the help, I am sure I will be back soon
[11:44] <klees> anyone?
[11:44] <Mez> grumbly - there should be (above all the menu entries) an option for default entries
[11:44] <mikki> mineur: now i got a file named poweriso
[11:45] <mikki> mineur: what do i do now:P
[11:45] <josh_> just put konsole in ur quicklaunch
[11:45] <josh_> its even faster
[11:45] <mineur> mikki: you have a directory poweriso now right?
[11:46] <mineur> cd into it, and look for a file install or readme it will tell you how to install the stuff
[11:46] <mikki> mineur: no just a executable file
[11:46] <mineur> hmmm
[11:46] <mineur> what is that thing poweriso anyway?
[11:46] <vursitis> hello
[11:46] <grumbly> Mez: I dont know what you mean
[11:47] <grumbly> Oh, yeah, I see that
[11:47] <grumbly> The error I am trying to correct is present in all boot options
[11:47] <grumbly> except for memtesrt
[11:47] <endo602> hmmmm
[11:47] <endo602> i erased the drivers
[11:47] <endo602> still not working
[11:48] <mikki> mineur: i got a daa file i want to view
[11:48] <Daisuke_Ido> there's probably a very easy way to do this, but...  i need to download all files in a directory that match a certain mask (ad??-??-??.odt, for example).  is there an easy way to go about that?
[11:48] <Schuenemann> hasn't anybody here watched an FLV video? =/
[11:48] <juano__> dwidmann:
[11:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Schuenemann: try VLC
[11:48] <josh_> kubuntu-jp
[11:48] <dwidmann> juano?
[11:48] <josh_> #kubuntu-jp
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> i've never had any luck with kaffeine and FLVs
[11:49] <juano__> dwidmann: pm me, i tried through gnome no luck ,same deal
[11:49] <Schuenemann> what is VLC?
[11:49] <Schuenemann> hmm
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> !vlc
[11:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:49] <Schuenemann> but it seems I don't have a codec
[11:49] <josh_> #kubuntu-de
[11:49] <Schuenemann> as the video plays
[11:49] <juano__> anyone know why i cant play audio cd with audacious???
[11:49] <mineur> that poweriso is it a linux executable?
[11:49] <AdamFz> Schuenemann : I get the same issue in Kaffeine. MPlayer works fine
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Schuenemann: that's the nice thing about VLC
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> it uses no codecs
[11:49] <Schuenemann> how come?
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> they're all self-contained
[11:49] <AdamFz> I've never bothered to find out why. Kaffeine sucks anyway :)
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> within the program
[11:49] <dwidmann> juano__: I had no luck in teh virtual machine either, but I suspect that is because the host OS is edgy . ..
[11:49] <juano__> dwidmann: ok
[11:49] <mikki> mineur: i dont know :P http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm
[11:49] <endo602> can someone help me with a login issue
[11:50] <Schuenemann> I'll try
[11:50] <mineur> lol
[11:50] <Schuenemann> it already comes with a GUI, right?
[11:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Schuenemann: VLC? yes
[11:50] <endo602> wen i enter the passward.. the screen clicks and then kicks me back to login page
[11:50] <Schuenemann> ok, downloading :)
[11:52] <crusty> hello! i need to convert avi in to wmv........what program do i need for kubuntu 6.10 edgy?????
[11:53] <juano__> anyone help me with audicious???
[11:53] <denisel> hi im trying to get my digital camra to work the comp does not read it
[11:53] <juano__> i cant play cds in audicious
[11:53] <juano__> anyone know why?
[11:53] <grumbly> Mez: I see what youre saying noew
[11:54] <denisel> can anyone help
[11:54] <wolfwalker> Okay, I'm new to linux in general and kubuntu in particular, and I'm soliciting advice for programs to install.
[11:54] <wolfwalker> Best antivirus?
[11:54] <wolfwalker> Firewall?
[11:54] <wolfwalker> Audio format converter?
[11:55] <JohnFlux> wolfwalker: no need for antivirus or firewall
[11:55] <Schuenemann> Daisuke_Ido: VLC doesn't even play the file
[11:55] <wolfwalker> lol
[11:55] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no reason it shouldn't play it
[11:55] <Daisuke_Ido> it plays every flv i've thrown at it perfectly
[11:55] <sinless> spanish
[11:56] <mineur> !es
[11:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:56] <mineur> o hablame :p
[11:56] <Schuenemann> well, it doesn't for me
[11:56] <Schuenemann> very weird
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> definitely
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> mplayer is another option
[11:56] <Schuenemann> it seems it starts playing and stops almost immediately
[11:56] <wolfwalker> Anyone ever heard of the k-lite mega codec pack?
[11:57] <wolfwalker> That works well for my brother
[11:57] <Schuenemann> [00000258]  main playlist: nothing to play
[11:57] <Schuenemann> that's konsole's output
[11:57] <katabatic> wolf, yeah
[11:57] <katabatic> that's for Windows, right?
[11:57] <wolfwalker> Dunno
[11:57] <wolfwalker> He runs it on Windows
[11:57] <denisel> im a windows refugee and my comp will not pick up my digital camra
[11:57] <wolfwalker> Seems something that expansive would be for linux too
[11:58] <Schuenemann> this sucks
[11:58] <katabatic> naw
[11:58] <Schuenemann> I'll try an AVI
[11:58] <katabatic> it isn't, I don't think
[11:58] <wolfwalker> Rats
[11:58] <katabatic> why?
[11:58] <wolfwalker> It's so useful too
[11:58] <juano__> i cant play cds in audicious, anyone knows why??
[11:58] <katabatic> you can install most, if not all codecs you need by following Ubuntu guide
[11:58] <Schuenemann> Daisuke_Ido: AVI is ok
[11:58] <Schuenemann> I still believe in codecs' problem
[11:59] <Shaezsche> id like to make an icon that executes "sudo modprobe ipw2200 and nm-applet --sm-disable" when i double click on it. how can i do this?
[11:59] <wolfwalker> Okay, I have aroura and wine to download when I hook up my Kubuntu computer to the net. Any other programs anyone could recommend for a music nut to download?
[11:59] <denisel> i have the program digikam and it will not read my camra i want to put family photos on my computer but i cant
[12:00] <wolfwalker> Audio format converter perhaps?
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok
[12:00] <wolfwalker> Already have amarok, it came with Kubuntu
[12:00] <dwidmann> juano, the fact that you can't play them in audacious, and can in kaffeine, is related to that wire I said about, I'm pretty sure
[12:00] <N6REJ> anyone know why adding a tast in kontact brings up a box with 2 choices?
[12:00] <dwidmann> You'll get the same results if you try to play it with kscd(or whatever it's called)
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> audacity if you can deal with the evil interface
[12:00] <wolfwalker> Hey!
[12:00] <wolfwalker> I like Audacity
[12:00] <dwidmann> Kaffeine uses a different method to play back the disk though, so it gives you sound with no problem, juano__
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe
[12:01] <wolfwalker> It is a bit simplistic, true
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a nice package, but the interface is so horribly GTK :(
[12:01] <wolfwalker> But it works wonders for my music files
[12:01] <wolfwalker> GTK?
[12:01] <dwidmann> sound-konverter :)
[12:01] <katabatic> what about XMMS?
[12:01] <jorval> hello all, i have a opengl problem with my nvidia geforce7600 and hope someone has an hint for me, ive installed the driver from the nvidia site. ive running (kubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP) and an cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version tells me (NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9746) the driver ive installed. but when i start glxgears or glxinfo my xserver restarts.. :-( any suggestions ?
[12:01] <wolfwalker> Yes, I need a sound converter
[12:01] <denisel> i had to get a new sound card for my comp mabey yours is not working
[12:01] <katabatic> says it's almost like Winamp in the package description
[12:01] <Schuenemann> dwidmann: do you play FLV on kaffeine?
[12:01] <dwidmann> sound-konverter is indeed a sound converter :O
[12:01] <wolfwalker> Oh, is that the name
[12:02] <wolfwalker> What formats does it have?
[12:02] <dwidmann> FLV? I'm not even familiar with the format
[12:02] <Schuenemann> FLash Video
[12:02] <wolfwalker> FLAC? wma?
[12:02] <katabatic> wolfwalker, you get my message
[12:02] <dwidmann> AVIs and WMVs on occasion, usually just DVDs though
[12:02] <Schuenemann> youtube and google video use FLV
[12:02] <wolfwalker> Oh, that Winamp mention was for me
[12:02] <katabatic> yes
[12:03] <wolfwalker> I don't want winamp duplicate, I want something that does the same thing dBpowerAMP does
[12:03] <katabatic> I found XMMS in the package manager
[12:03] <dwidmann> wolfwalker, it does quite a few, I think
[12:03] <dwidmann> !info sound-konverter
[12:03] <ubotu> Package sound-konverter does not exist in any distro I know
[12:03] <denisel> can anyone help me
[12:03] <Daisuke_Ido> xmms is *just* a winamp 2.x clone
[12:03] <dwidmann> !info soundkonverter
[12:03] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[12:03] <wolfwalker> Frontend
[12:03] <soulrider> denisel: thats what were here for
[12:03] <wolfwalker> Hmmm
[12:04] <dwidmann> I think it does the usual, FLAC, ogg, lame, etc
[12:04] <denisel> my computer will not read my digital ca,ra
[12:04] <wolfwalker> LAME is indeed lame
[12:04] <denisel> camra
[12:04] <soulrider> i use soundkonverter
[12:04] <Schuenemann> Mplayer is playing FLV
[12:04] <dwidmann> wav and wma too wolfwalker
[12:04] <wolfwalker> I'd use ogg if my digital player would read it
[12:04] <wolfwalker> Stupid box
[12:04] <Schuenemann> Daisuke_Ido: Mplayer is playing FLV, but Mplayer is ugly
[12:04] <katabatic> why is LAMe lame
[12:04] <katabatic> haha
[12:05] <dwidmann> schuenmann, how about kmplayer?
[12:05] <dwidmann> less ugly?
[12:05] <wolfwalker> Well................. give them credit, LAME is better than Apple's official mp3
[12:05] <Schuenemann> never tried
[12:05] <soulrider> denisel: what do you mean? you conncted it and it doesnt appear ?
[12:05] <Schuenemann> is it?
[12:05] <dwidmann> Yes.
[12:05] <dwidmann> also makes a very good browser plugin
[12:05] <Schuenemann> *sigh* will try it :)
[12:05] <denisel> yes and went i auto detect it says non detected
[12:05] <Schuenemann> I hope it plays FLV
[12:06] <katabatic> well, lame is the best mp3 encoder, so what's wrong  with it
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> kmplayer uses the same backend, i think
[12:06] <Mez> !info vlc |Schuenemann
[12:06] <dwidmann> it plays anything mplayer, xine, or gstreamer will play Schuenemann
[12:06] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[12:06] <wolfwalker> So soundkonverter is a front-end. Do they have a menu of codecs, or do I go all over the world to try to gather them?
[12:06] <casev01> i canot use apt-build :(
[12:06] <Schuenemann> Mez: it doesn't work for me
[12:06] <Mez> Schuenemann - weird...
[12:06] <dwidmann> casev01, why not?
[12:06] <Mez> Schuenemann - probably cause flv = proprietary
[12:07] <dwidmann> katabatic, I like blade for mp3 encoding
[12:07] <soulrider> but denisel, when you connect it, does a popup appear ?
[12:07] <wolfwalker> blade?
[12:07] <wolfwalker> Is that also known as razorlame?
[12:07] <denisel> nope
[12:07] <Schuenemann> Mez: well, Daisuke_Ido reported he plays it at his comp
[12:07] <wolfwalker> I have razorlame and all2lame
[12:07] <casev01> it does not find any package
[12:07] <casev01> and when it find someone it give me an error
[12:07] <dwidmann> casev01, do you have all of the deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:08] <dwidmann> might need them
[12:08] <denisel> ok i have the camra in now nothing happends
[12:08] <casev01> yes
[12:08] <wolfwalker> katabatic, for the record: there is nothing wrong with the LAME encoder per se. Just that there are better lossy formats than mp3.
[12:08] <soulrider> sorry deniselclosed the wrong program :P
[12:08] <Mez> Schuenemann - what version of kubuntu are you using
[12:08] <casev01> look here i posted the error
[12:08] <agente2012> hi
[12:08] <casev01> http://69.60.114.106/www.kubuntu-es.org/public_html/?q=node/1755
[12:08] <Schuenemann> dwidmann: no sound with kmplayer
[12:08] <Schuenemann> Mez: 6.06
[12:08] <sleepy495> Should I install flash9 before or after I install Firefox 2 or it doesn't matter?
[12:08] <soulrider> denisel: youre sure its a problem with the Pc and not the camera right ?
[12:08] <dwidmann> Schuenemann, odd
[12:08] <Schuenemann> no sound and fishy FPS too
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> sleepy495, after
[12:08] <denisel> yes because in windows 98 it worked fine
[12:08] <juano__> dwidmann: i think the problem is i need .cda support for audacious, plus i tried xmms to read the cd, same as audacious
[12:09] <dwidmann> it uses mplayer, you can edit the arguments it sends to mplayer, perhaps change the -ao option to something like -ao alsa
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> wolfwalker: there are much better than mp3, but until they reach mass acceptance, mp3 will be the format of choice for 99% of the population :\
[12:09] <soulrider> ok, denisel, what camera is it ?
[12:09] <sleepy495> How do I install the latest version of Firefox2? Just use adept package manager?
[12:09] <wolfwalker> Okay, I have ardour, audacity, soundkonvertor and wine. Anything else a linux - Kubuntu newbie should get?
[12:09] <wolfwalker> FIREFOX, of course!
[12:09] <denisel> samsung digimax
[12:09] <Mez> Schuenemann- I believe that the latest ffmpeg supports it ... do you have that installed? if so it's probably an out of date version
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> *much better formats than mp3
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> wolfwalker: firefox is core.
[12:09] <Schuenemann> Mez: how do I check?
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> it's included
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> sleepy495, if you are edgy yes
[12:10] <wolfwalker> I knew that.............
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[12:10] <Mez> Schuenemann - dpkg -l | grep ffmpeg
[12:10] <wolfwalker> Really, I did :D
[12:10] <katabatic> in Kubuntu, it is?
[12:10] <Schuenemann> Mez: no output
[12:10] <juano__> dwidmann: FIXED!
[12:10] <soulrider> denisel: let me look for some info
[12:10] <sleepy495> Can somoene give me the command to install flash9 on the konsole please?
[12:10] <dwidmann> juano__ do tell!
[12:10] <denisel> ok i will get a coffee
[12:10] <juano__> dwidmann: i selected digital audio extraction in options from audacious and it worked!
[12:10] <wolfwalker> Yay!
[12:10] <juano__> dwidmann: theres 2 options there, analog and digital audio extraction
[12:11] <dwidmann> jauno__ that's what I was talking about, actually
[12:11] <wolfwalker> So, any other programs a Kubuntu newb needs?
[12:11] <juano__> dwidmann: i selected digital audio extraction and it worked
[12:11] <dwidmann> has to be digital or you won't get sound unless you have the analog line
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> sleepy495, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:11] <juano__> dwidmann: yeah... seems that all those other apps dot hat by defect
[12:11] <Mez> Schuenemann - then you dont have it installed - sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[12:11] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[12:11] <juano__> by default i mean
[12:12] <agente2012> TheGateKeeper:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> !backports
[12:12] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[12:12] <agente2012> in konsole
[12:12] <dwidmann> wolfwalker: konq-kim is a nice thing to have, kipi-plugins are nice, k3b (release candidate 2) is grand ... koffice is great
[12:12] <I-04> hey everyone, im trying to solve the following:  i compiled gaim 2.0beta5 from source, but adept thinks that the repo version is newer, which it isn't. i tried setting the version number of the package with checkinstall, but i still get the same problem. any thoughts?
[12:12] <wolfwalker> k3b is already installed, I think
[12:12] <wolfwalker> What do the others do?
[12:12] <agente2012> For install flash player for firefox and more
[12:12] <agente2012> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:13] <TheGateKeeper> sleepy495, ^^^^^
[12:13] <dwidmann> wolfwalker: yes, but it's an aging version of k3b installed ... k3b 1.0 pre1 and on are much improved
[12:13] <wolfwalker> Ah so!
[12:13] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[12:13] <sleepy495> all I have to do is sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and thats it? will that install for firefox and konquerer?
[12:13] <wolfwalker> What is konq-kim?
[12:14] <agente2012> yes sleepy495
[12:14] <wolfwalker> And what are the kipi-plugins?
[12:14] <agente2012> firefox and konqueror
[12:14] <steve_> anyone here use vmware server?
[12:14] <sleepy495> thanks
[12:14] <agente2012> :)