[12:20] <tsmithe> bddebian, about my lintian error on alsa-firmware, it is indeed to be expected
[12:20] <tsmithe> and thanks for the revu
[12:20] <tsmithe> :)
[12:21] <tsmithe> and as i said about the man pages on alsa-tools; i don't think that's valid either
[12:21] <tsmithe> i'll look into the script
[12:21] <tsmithe> but i don't recall modifying it - so it should be identical to the current feisty version
[12:24] <bddebian> Could be
[12:26] <tsmithe> thing is - it's autogenerated...
[12:47] <persia> Adri2000: I was away.  Now filing bugs on gaphor, flpsed.
[12:49] <TerminX> hm, is this channel where I would mention a bug in a package in universe?
[12:49] <shawarma> TerminX: Kind of. You really should file it on launchpad..
[12:50] <fowlduck> launchpad mcQuack
[12:50] <TerminX> I searched for the package on launchpad and didn't find it, and it's only a dependency problem anyway
[12:50] <shawarma> TerminX: That said, if you need some sort of clarification, then yes, this is it.
[12:50] <shawarma> TerminX: Which package is it?
[12:50] <TerminX> package slidentd seems to depend on specific inetd packages, which means I can't use it with xinetd
[12:51] <TerminX> they look to be added dependencies that the original debian package doesn't have (in other words, the debian package works with no issues)
[12:53] <shawarma> I suppose the most corretct fix would be to make xinetd provide inet-superserver.
[12:55] <TerminX> should I file a bug against xinetd on launchpad then?
[12:55] <shawarma> Right.
[12:56] <shawarma> It's in main, so we can't really help you directly.
[12:57] <TerminX> it, uh, won't let me file a bug on xinetd
[12:57] <shawarma> TerminX: How so?
[12:57] <TerminX> it tells me to use its official bug tracker, but that isn't exactly going to be useful when it's something that just needs to be corrected in the package
[12:58] <shawarma> TerminX: Ah.
[12:58] <shawarma> TerminX: The thing to remember is that launchpad is not only for Ubuntu.
[12:58] <shawarma> TerminX: And since this is a ubuntu specific issue, you need to go to the frontpage and select Ubuntu.
[12:58] <shawarma> TerminX: ...and *then* find xinetd and file a bug on it.
[12:58] <shawarma> TerminX: Makes sense?
[12:58] <TerminX> heh, oops
[12:59] <shawarma> TerminX: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xinetd/+filebug
[04:12] <LaserJock> sweet, bugmail!
[04:17] <bddebian> LaserJock: ??
[04:18] <ajmitch> lies
[04:18] <ajmitch> we have no bugs
[04:18] <bddebian> heh
[04:18] <bddebian> ajmitch: You finally fixed them all? :)
[04:18] <somerville32> ajmitch, Only 2 open bug reports over last week ;] 
[04:18] <ajmitch> bddebian: no, that's up to you
[04:19] <bddebian> Bah, I can't fix nuttin' :-(
[04:19] <Burgundavia> hey ajmitch, somerville32, bddebian
[04:19] <ajmitch> hello Burgundavia 
[04:19] <bddebian> Hi Burgundavia
[04:20] <ajmitch> how's it going?
[04:20] <somerville32> Hiya Burgundavia 
[04:20] <Burgundavia> not bad
[04:20] <Burgundavia> "enjoying" alberta
[04:20] <Burgundavia> is bloody cold here
[04:21] <ajmitch> exciting
[04:22] <LaserJock> bddebian: I subscribed to ubuntu-universe-sponsors list
[04:23] <LaserJock> I was trying to the other night but it didn't work
[04:23] <LaserJock> but now I got it
[04:23] <bddebian> Ahh
[04:24] <bddebian> How did someone get a foo.tar.gz to upload to REVU?
[04:26] <LaserJock> bddebian: how far did you get through the science bug list?
[04:27] <bddebian> All the way, though I didn't get many fixed yet :'-(
[04:29] <LaserJock> bddebian: rockin' dude, thanks
[04:30] <LaserJock> ajmitch: I thought I saw some zope stuff float by, was that Klose or you?
[04:30] <ajmitch> old sync requests
[04:30] <ajmitch> really old :)
[04:30] <ajmitch> or maybe not
[04:31] <ajmitch> doesn't look like it was me that requested those, so that's ok
[04:32] <ScottK> Laserjock: are you available for REVU?
[04:32] <somerville32> ScottK: Which package?
[04:32] <ScottK> I have http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071 that are looking for a 2nd sponsor.
[04:33] <ScottK> somerville32: I think you've looked at these already.
[04:33] <ScottK> I know you looked at 4070, not sure about 4071.
[05:26] <crimsun> persia: beware of subscribing u-a prior w/o an ACK
[05:27] <persia> crimsun: Ah.  That's an error in my understanding.  I'll avoid that in future.  Thanks for the note.
[05:29] <crimsun> persia: were you following a wiki page?
[05:29] <persia> crimsun: My memory, but I'll check the wiki page I loaded from in a couple minutes.
[05:35] <bddebian> do be do be doo
[05:38] <ScottK> crimsun: Would you be up for a little REVU?
[05:38] <ScottK> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071 that are looking for a 2nd sponsor
[05:38] <persia> crimsun: The procedure is described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources.  I started adding u-u-s as well after Tollef advised me about ACKs for bug 78751.
[05:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78751 in survex "Please sync survex 1.0.39.1-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78751
[05:43] <LaserJock> crimsun: we should have MOTU page outlining procedures for that, IMO
[05:46] <LaserJock> what "procedures" or "processes" do we need a writeup on?
[05:48] <crimsun> probably the material I'd cover in a -school session
[05:48] <LaserJock> mhm
[05:48] <crimsun> how to request a sync
[05:48] <crimsun> how to request processing of a merge
[05:49] <LaserJock> do you want something written up beforehad?
[05:49] <persia> LaserJock: For a list, I'd start from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/.  Some of these age, and the procedures are not necessarily entirely clear (even from the Q&A logs).
[05:51] <LaserJock> sync, merge, SRU, UVF, new package
[05:51] <persia> LaserJock: non-MOTU bugfix updates
[05:52] <LaserJock> k
[05:52] <crimsun> persia: bug 79349 will depwait on the new uqm being synced (which means it needs an accompanying sync request)
[05:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79349 in uqm-content "Please sync uqm-content 0.6.0.1 (multiverse) frrom Debian sid (non-free)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79349
[05:53] <persia> crimsun: See bug 79350
[05:53] <crimsun> (yes, it's ok to override Ubuntu changes for uqm)
[05:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79350 in uqm "merge uqm 0.6.1-2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79350
[05:54] <persia> crimsun: uqm FTBFS on feisty.  I'll let Joey know as soon as I can replicate in a sid environment.
[05:54] <crimsun> why does it ftbfs?
[05:54] <persia> crimsun: libmikmod2-dev is not in B-D
[05:54] <crimsun> yes it is
[05:55] <crimsun> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/u/uqm/uqm_0.6.1-2.dsc
[05:55] <crimsun> it's the last b-d
[05:55] <crimsun> I'm speaking specifically of the sync ; I saw the merge request
[05:55] <crimsun> a merge is unnecessary; a sync is sufficient
[05:56] <persia> crimsun: It wasn't locally for some reason.  I'm off to reject 79750 :)
[05:56] <crimsun> persia: you pbuilt uqm from sid and it ftbfs?
[05:56] <persia> crimsun: Yes, but I appear to have made a mistake.  Retrying...
[05:58] <LaserJock> crimsun: do you want policy wiki docs worked on before or after your session?
[05:58] <ajmitch> ooh, crimsun is doing a session?
[05:59] <LaserJock> as soon as he gives me a date/time ;-)
[05:59] <crimsun> LaserJock: I see no reason for work to block on the session
[05:59] <LaserJock> crimsun: k, I might make some stubs tonight
[05:59] <crimsun> great
[06:01] <LaserJock> once we get those nailed down  little bit I'd like to put those in the packaging guide
[06:02] <persia> crimsun: Thanks for the check: It was my mistake.  I'm not sure how the B-D line was damaged.  merge bug killed, raising sync bug.
[06:04] <bddebian> Gah, compiz has too big of build-deps..
[06:13] <Lutin> hi there
[06:13] <bddebian> Heya Lutin
[06:14] <LaserJock> has anybody be using Daniel's bughelper script?
[06:16] <Lutin> not yet
[06:19] <Lutin> LaserJock: btw, could you have a look at kayali on revu when you'll have some time ?
[06:20] <crimsun> geser rocked gnome 396477
[06:20] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 396477 in linux "stack overflow in sysdeps/linux/procmap.c: glibtop_get_proc_map_s()" [Major,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396477
[06:20] <bddebian> Whew, I think I finally have a comment on every package on REVU that I can comment on..
[06:23] <ajmitch> well done
[06:23] <bddebian> Well my reviews are shit apparently but I'm trying :)
[06:23] <ajmitch> better than mine
[06:29] <bddebian> ajmitch: Only when you don't do them :)
[06:31] <ajmitch> exactly
[06:32] <bddebian> Bah
[06:34] <unix_infidel> will LTS ever have a zimbra packaged for the repos?
[06:35] <Burgundavia> no
[06:35] <joejaxx> hello Burgundavia 
[06:35] <unix_infidel> http://www.zimbra.com/index.html
[06:35] <Burgundavia> hey joejaxx
[06:36] <Burgundavia> unix_infidel: yep, aware what zimbra is. Unless it gets backported, no
[06:36] <unix_infidel> Burgundavia: is it expected for the next LTS?
[06:36] <unix_infidel> fawn iirc
[06:36] <Burgundavia> if somebody packages it
[06:36] <Burgundavia> and 7.04 will not be an LTS
[06:37] <bddebian> Backport a NEW package?  Is that ever done?
[06:37] <Burgundavia> yes
[06:37] <bddebian> Sounds dangerous to me :)
[06:38] <joejaxx> bddebian: :)
[06:38] <Burgundavia> the world is dangerous
[06:38] <Burgundavia> leaf apps have little bearing on the general order of the world
[06:38] <bddebian> leaf apps?
[06:38] <Burgundavia> apps which have nothing depending on them
[06:39] <bddebian> Ahh
[06:55] <bddebian> Ah well, gnight gang
[07:17] <Ash-Fox> I have a announcement, pbuilder rocks! -- that is all.
[07:36] <Lutin> heya freeflying
[08:08] <LaserJock> I don't suppose anybody in here is good with w3m?
[08:10] <nixternal> can't say that i am
[08:11] <nixternal> but i did just build a new kubuntu-docs package from the ground up (and it is 99% functional at this time)
[08:11] <nixternal> i am hoping it will generate the bug reports now before final release, unlike the edgy release
[08:11] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: lynx is easier, why?
[08:11] <nixternal> Hobbsee: i think i tried to tell him that the other day :)
[08:12] <LaserJock> whatever
[08:12] <LaserJock> I just want the best CLI browser
[08:12] <LaserJock> I was using w3m but I couldn't select text that was a URL
[08:13] <lupine_85> links2 ?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: links2 is good
[08:14] <Hobbsee> so's elinks
[08:14] <Hobbsee> w3m is difficult
[08:14] <Hobbsee> anyway, try the right arrow, over the link
[08:16] <LaserJock> hmm, lynx lets me select the text
[08:16] <LaserJock> links2 doesn't
[08:16] <persia> LaserJock: w3m -no-mouse let's you select text, but you can't click links.
[08:17] <LaserJock> ah
[08:17] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: what's your favorite CLI browser? lynx?
[08:17] <LaserJock> persia: how about you?
[08:18] <lupine_85> links2 does javascript, which I need for some sites
[08:18] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: lynx, mostly
[08:18] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: ask TheMuso 
[08:18] <crimsun> yuck dude, just use nc.
[08:18] <lupine_85> like my router's config page =)
[08:18] <persia> LaserJock: I forget why I stopped using lynx, but I've mostly migrated from w3m to GUI browsers :(
[08:19] <LaserJock> crimsun: nc?
[08:19] <lupine_85> netcat?
[08:19] <crimsun> yep
[08:19] <nixternal> heh
[08:20] <nixternal> only the hardcore crimsun ;p
[08:20] <crimsun> nah, that's bddebian. He thinks, and It Is.
[08:21] <LaserJock> crimsun: hmm, that's a little too minimal for me I think
[08:21] <lupine_85> not recommended over the wider internet though ;)
[08:21] <LaserJock> I'm just tired of using GUI browsers for LP/Debian
[08:21] <nixternal> haha, LaserJock needs something more hardcore
[08:21] <crimsun> links2 was pretty nice when I used it
[08:22] <LaserJock> crimsun: what do you usually use, FF?
[08:22] <crimsun> w3m and FF
[08:23] <crimsun> I don't have administrative access on most of the Ubuntu machines here
[08:24] <LaserJock> bummer
[08:24] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't use many machines that I don't have admin access to
[08:24] <crimsun> nah, saves me headaches. Then I can just whine at the admin.
[08:24] <LaserJock> yeah, that's what I was just thinking
[08:25] <LaserJock> I should make one of the new grad students admin ;-)
[08:25] <crimsun> we pretty much converted an entire engineering college to use nexenta and ubuntu
[08:25] <LaserJock> sweet
[08:25] <LaserJock> my school seems very anti-linux
[08:31] <Hobbsee> hey deitys?
[08:31] <Hobbsee> one of you figure out how to work the home phone here please...
[08:32] <LaserJock> wow, links2 in graphical mode is pretty sweet
[08:34] <LaserJock> crimsun: did you take care of the icewm merge request on u-u-s?
[08:50] <crimsun> LaserJock: no
[08:50] <LaserJock> crimsun: ok, I've got it
[08:50] <crimsun> LaserJock: there was a period yesterday where I was unsubbed from u-u-s and awaiting moderator approval for resub during which I didn't receive any 
[08:51] <Hobbsee> crimsun: really?
[08:52] <LaserJock> crimsun: ok, I wondered
[08:52] <LaserJock> crimsun: well, according to times I got them before I got my sub confirmation
[08:52] <LaserJock> maybe I stole them from you ;-)
[08:52] <crimsun> Hobbsee: yes, due to the receiving doubles of every post
[08:52] <crimsun> so I unsubbed and resubbed to take care of that
[08:53] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ahh
[08:53] <Hobbsee> crimsun: has that stopped?
[08:53] <crimsun> yes, it's fine now
[08:54] <Hobbsee> cool :
[08:54] <Hobbsee> )
[09:15] <LaserJock> uh oh, dholbach's on
[09:15] <dholbach> good morning
[09:15] <LaserJock> that's my cue to go to bed ;-)
[09:16] <dholbach> hey LaserJock
[09:17] <LaserJock> hi dholbach 
[09:22] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: What did Laser_away want?
[09:23] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: to know what the best cli browser was
[09:23] <TheMuso> Laser_away: Whenever you return, elinks is the best atm.
[09:23] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: did you go to lowenbrau last night?  i didnt see you there...
[09:23] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: No.
[09:24] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: :(
[09:24] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: Mainly not knowing the public transport system in that area, and not wanting to get stuck out somewhere that I didn't know.
[09:25] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: :(
[09:25] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: there were plenty of us around, we could have found you
[09:27] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: Ah well.
[09:27] <TheMuso> I will be seeing people all of this week anyway.
[09:28] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: :)
[09:28] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: You coming on Thursday
[09:28] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: yes
[09:28] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: have you seen elky today?
[09:29] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: Not yet. I know she was around, but didn't get a chance to meet her.
[09:29] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: right.  guess it's a bit silly asking you to look for her, and ask if she's got those cd's yet...
[09:29] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: you're all otu of sessions nwo?
[09:30] <TheMuso> Hobbsee: Yeah. I'm actually at home
[09:30] <Hobbsee> ah!  so it's silly on two counts then!
[09:37] <StevenK> Hobbsee: She does. I know this because I handed them to her about an hour ago.
[09:37] <Hobbsee> StevenK: cool :)
[09:37] <Hobbsee> fun
[09:37] <StevenK> Nuh uh
[09:53] <Ash-Fox> Would anyone happen to know or have any idea why apt-build is behaving strangely with my packages/repository -- It refuses to download the sources? http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/apt-build-weirdness.txt
[09:56] <\sh> moins
[09:57] <Ash-Fox> Morning
[10:07] <Ash-Fox> Gah, the package builds perfectly if I apt-get source and pbuilder/debuild/dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it... And apt-build won't even download it.
[10:28] <Adri2000> persia: file a bug in debian for linpopup's .desktop file? ;)
[10:29] <persia> Adri2000: Hey!  I just uploaded the diff.  I need a couple minutes to file a debian bug as well :)
[10:29] <persia> Adri2000: 
[10:29] <Adri2000> eheh, ok :p
[10:30] <persia> Adri2000: I hope don't mind about bitpim: I had just been looking at it before I fell asleep, and was certain that a sync wouldn't work.
[10:33] <Adri2000> persia: and you are still certain?
[10:34] <persia> Adri2000: Yes.  debian/control in the sid source sets a binary dependency on python-ctypes, which is no longer a separate package for python2.5.
[10:35] <crimsun> (because python 2.5 includes ctypes internally)
[10:35] <Adri2000> ok, then no problem, I don't mind :)
[10:36] <persia> I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to process .desktop files for the gnome file manager, but it's confusing when you actually want to select the .desktop file instead of the target :(
[10:48] <TheMuso> c
[11:01] <Hobbsee> ALL.  FLASH.  SUCKS.  AND.  WEBSITES. USING. IT. DESERVE. TO. DIE!!!
[11:03] <Hobbsee> gah!
[11:04] <white> Hobbsee: doesn't gnash work?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> white: mplayer plugin works, i got to where i wanted.  just it wont actually let you enter the site without flash 8
[11:04] <white> bah
[11:05] <persia> Hobbsee: That's evil website designers, not evil flash.  Kill the guilty, leave the innocent to offend later.
[11:05] <Hobbsee> persia: flash.  is.  not.  innocent.
[11:05] <Hobbsee> persia: linux version is still at 7.*
[11:06] <Hobbsee> persia: well, it is sony.  they're a known evil
[11:08] <persia> Hobbsee: OK.  There are several evils.
[11:49] <Nafallo> !info cfv
[11:49] <ubotu> cfv: versatile file checksum creator and verifier. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.18.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 172 kB
[11:55] <crimsun> oh christ
[11:55] <crimsun> yay for uploading without adding to debian/patches/series
[11:56] <ajmitch> I've done worse
[11:56] <crimsun> well, I know 11-xv_lockup.patch's not a regression at least
[12:16] <crimsun> siretart: +0.7, eh? :)
[12:18] <StevenK> Oh no, not decimal SRU votes
[12:18] <StevenK> Don't make me vote +1.3 :-P
[12:19] <xzu> Hi folks, i have  question: there is a small bug in a package I use. The package does not have an official Ubuntu maintainer, but the Debian package has. Now the same issue occurs in Debian testing/unstable. The fix just a very simple dependency issue, but what is the "correct" soluction? Contact Debian maintainer, wait untill she fixes it and import that or try to get it fixed in Ubunty Edgy/other releases ?
[12:20] <crimsun> which package?
[12:20] <xzu> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-ssh
[12:21] <crimsun> ok, so there's no existing Ubuntu delta. In that case, it's probably preferable to push the fix directly to Debian, and then Ubuntu will sync from Sid.
[12:21] <crimsun> now depending how "small" this bug is...
[12:22] <xzu> what does "existing Ubuntu delta" mean?
[12:22] <xzu> ok, its in Debians bugtracker, so I guess the maintainer will pick it up
[12:22] <crimsun> the current source version is 1.91.0-9.1, which is a direct sync from Debian
[12:23] <xzu> check
[12:25] <siretart> crimsun: yay! (well, count that as +1)
[01:35] <persia> I'm working on libjsw.  I would like to make a single upload of a new upstream version with packaging changes to close all open Ubuntu bugs and an additional Debian bug.  How should I upload the new package?
[01:36] <Hobbsee> persia: uh...REVU...bug with the debdiff of debian/* would be good
[01:37] <Hobbsee> persia: seeing as just a debdiff would suck.  and so would just REVU.  although that would suck less.  just.  
[01:38] <persia> Hobbsee: Thanks.  Now I have yet more motivation to fix GPG.  I don't suppose you know how I hunt down and kill old keys floating around on the keyservers?
[01:39] <Hobbsee> persia: do you have the revocations for them?
[01:39] <Hobbsee> ie, the rev... certificates?
[01:39] <Hobbsee> to do with revoking
[01:40] <persia> Hobbsee: If I spend a day or so, I might be able to find the disks on which the secrets lie (they are very old).
[01:40] <Hobbsee> ah
[01:40] <Hobbsee> persia: dunno if you can just ignore them....
[01:40] <Hobbsee> you'd have to use your private key to revoke
[01:41] <Hobbsee> there's no other way to prove that you are the owner of that key, without hte private one
[01:41] <Hobbsee> however, people will tend to use the key on LP
[01:41] <persia> Hobbsee: That's my fear as well - duplicates lead to confusion.  Perhaps I'll raise a bug on libjsw saying "don't fix this", and go hunt through my old disks.
[01:42] <Hobbsee> persia: well, they'll use the signed one...and the one that's being used, and the one you're signing mail with
[01:42] <persia> Hobbsee: You're suggesting just to ignore the old one for purposes of REVU & LP?
[01:42] <Hobbsee> persia: for the moment, yeah...
[01:43] <persia> Hobbsee: Well, if that's acceptable to Ubuntu, I'm happy.  I can procrastinate for even longer :)
[01:43] <Hobbsee> persia: heh
[01:44] <Hobbsee> persia: it's better to get rid of them - and generate a revoking certificate for this key, if you ever have to use it
[01:45] <Lutin> heya freeflying :)
[01:45] <persia> Hobbsee: Yep.  With new disk sizes, I become more and more likely to clean up my stack of <10GB disks, and will surely find the keys in the process.
[01:46] <Hobbsee> persia: cool
[01:46] <freeflying> Lutin: hi
[01:47] <Lutin> how are you ?
[02:13] <persia> Processes are fun!  Could a REVU admin please sync my key to the REVU keyring?
[02:14] <Hobbsee> siretart: ^ 
[02:15] <Whoopie_> crimsun: hi, is the acroread package in feisty intended for a security update in edgy? any plans?
[02:16] <siretart> sec
[02:16] <persia> siretart: No hurry.  libjsw still needs a couple hours work.
[02:26] <siretart> persia: done
[02:26] <persia> siretart: Thanks.
[02:27] <\sh> re
[02:51] <_Enchained> Hi everybody
[03:51] <\sh> http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-XP-Home-Edition-License-Key_W0QQitemZ150080733165QQihZ005QQcategoryZ41887
[03:53] <Lutin> lol
[03:55] <_Enchained> Hi bddebian :)
[03:55] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:55] <bddebian> Hi _Enchained
[03:56] <\sh> hey bddebian
[03:56] <_Enchained> bddebian: dvd95 is updated on revu ;)
[03:56] <bddebian> Hi \sh
[03:56] <bddebian> _Enchained: OK
[03:56] <_Enchained> and waiting for you loll
[03:56] <_Enchained> I've added a manpage and corrected some little things
[04:00] <proppy> hi
[04:01] <proppy> pygame broken in edgy ?
[04:01] <proppy> for python2.5
[04:02] <dholbach> heya proppy
[04:03] <Lutin> hay bddebian :)
[04:04] <Lutin> bddebian: sorry, I updated kayali again, could you have a look at it ?
[04:04] <proppy> will check against the source package, cause it only install in python2.4/site-packages, but not in python2.5
[04:06] <bddebian> Lutin: Yeah, probably in a bit
[04:06] <Lutin> ok bddebian, thanks :)
[04:06] <persia> bddebian: You're responsive :)
[04:07] <proppy> XS-Python-Version: 2.4 in pygame
[04:08] <proppy> a not >= 2.4
[04:10] <Lutin> bddebian: cause you do a grat job on revu :-)
[04:10] <Lutin> great*
[04:11] <bddebian> Lutin: Not hardly, but thanks
[04:11] <persia> proppy: File a bug, being sure to mark is as an 6.10 bug.  It's fixed in Debian and Feisty.
[04:13] <proppy> persia: i just checked again the file list of packages.ubuntu.com for feisty
[04:13] <proppy> persia: it's seems to have the same pb
[04:13] <proppy> persia: but i must double check on a real feisty
[04:14] <proppy> persia: are you sure this a edgy only issue ?
[04:15] <persia> proppy: Yes.
[04:15] <proppy> persia: +XS-Python-Version: >= 2.3
[04:15] <proppy> persia: yep its corrected in current unstable
[04:15] <proppy> persia: thanks
[04:30] <proppy> persia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygame/+bug/79409
[04:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79409 in pygame "[6.10 only]  pygame doesn't install in python2.5 on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[04:42] <crimsun> Whoopie_: 7.04 no longer contains acroread
[04:43] <crimsun> Whoopie_: in light of its removal (both source and binary), it's questionable whether any effort should be expended on a security update
[04:43] <Whoopie_> crimsun: looking at bug 78339, you updated it. But why did you remove it?
[04:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78339 in acroread "Universal XSS" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78339
[04:44] <crimsun> Whoopie_: the issue is of course that we are not, according to the EULA, allowed to redistribute it without an agreement with Adobe.
[04:44] <crimsun> Whoopie_: no, the issue is covered in bug 43780
[04:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43780 in acroread "Acroread: Redistribution may not be allowed" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/43780
[04:45] <Whoopie_> crimsun: ok, so you fixed both. ;)
[04:45] <crimsun> Whoopie_: I am solely responsible for the update. The removal from the archive is not my decision.
[04:45] <crimsun> Nor am I an archive admin.
[04:47] <Whoopie_> np at all. I have a problem with password protected pdfs with evince. so acroread was the workaround.
[04:49] <Whoopie_> but as you shiped it with edgy, a security update would be wise.
[05:27] <asabil> hi all
[05:28] <asabil> how can I request a software to be added to feisty ?
[05:41] <geser> asabil: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[05:42] <asabil> unfortunately the last time I submitted something there it just remained there :/
[05:43] <geser> asabil: the other solution is to create the package yourself and get it on revu reviewed
[05:43] <asabil> okey thanks
[05:59] <ScottK> Is there another REVU sprint planned for Feisty?  The last one got me started here and I think another would be of benifit.
[06:01] <Lutin> ScottK: maybe it's a bit late now, uvf in on feb. 8th iirc
[06:01] <ScottK> I know.
[06:02] <ScottK> I've got two packages with one sponsor right now and another that's waiting for one of those before it can be REVUed.
[06:02] <ScottK> I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing to get stuff in by then...
[06:04] <ScottK> I was sort of hoping for another push before Feb 8.
[06:05] <crimsun> which upids?
[06:08] <ScottK> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071
[06:09] <ScottK> crimsun: Real life called me AFK for a few minutes.
[06:17] <crimsun> ok, I'll look now
[06:17] <crimsun> (sorry, phone conf)
[06:18] <ScottK> Understand and thanks.
[06:21] <crimsun> ScottK: for postfix-policyd-spf-perl, it'd be a good idea to include the preamble for GPL2 in debian/copyright. Otherwise it looks good.
[06:23] <ScottK> Hmm, I tried to follow the example in the new maintainer's guide as closely as I could: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html#s-copyright - Is this a case where the documentation needs to be updated?
[06:24] <palski> hmmm gtetrinet is now in edgy-proposed but not for i386
[06:30] <crimsun> palski: it hasn't built yet. [https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/292817 ] 
[06:30] <crimsun> as noted in the builds status box on [https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtetrinet/0.7.10-1ubuntu0.1 ] 
[06:31] <crimsun> (left side)
[06:31] <palski> ok, thanks
[06:32] <bddebian> Someone please kill me :-(
[06:32] <crimsun> ScottK: it's preferable (as I noted above) to include it. It wouldn't be strictly rejectable by omitting it.
[06:33] <crimsun> bddebian: 12:33 [freenode]  -!- This command is for network staff only
[06:33] <ScottK> OK. Thanks.  I'll add it when I update my packages.
[06:35] <ScottK> Is the license summary an issue just for GPL or for other licenses too (e.g. Perl Artistic license)?
[06:35] <bddebian> crimsun: I meant that literally :)
[06:35] <crimsun> it's not an issue; it's just viewed as good citizenship
[06:35] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.
[06:35] <crimsun> bddebian: your daughters wouldn't appreciate that
[06:36] <ScottK> Neither would we.
[06:37] <ScottK> bddebian:  ^^^^
[06:38] <crimsun> we can't have 1/4 of our trinity running off
[06:38] <crimsun> 1/3, even
[06:39] <crimsun> ScottK: shall I wait on 4071, then?
[06:40] <ScottK> I'd appreciate a look as I had to rebuild orig.tar.gz for that one and am not as confident that the packaging is correct.
[06:40] <ScottK> So for 4070 if I add the GPL preamble, you'd advocate?
[06:45] <crimsun> ScottK: yes
[06:45] <ScottK> OK.  Working on it now.
[06:46] <crimsun> ScottK: for libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl, you have a debian/README.Debian-source, but it's not installed via debhelper files or via debian/rules
[06:46] <crimsun> ScottK: as far as the rerolling of the source package is concerned, it's fine otherwise
[06:48] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.
[06:50] <ScottK> The revision to 4070 is uploaded, but I don't have the new ID yet.  crimsum and bddebian I would really appreciate it if you would advocate/re-advocate.
[06:51] <ScottK> Real life is calling somewhate urgently or I'd stay and give you the new ID.
[06:51] <ScottK> Thanks again.
[06:56] <Adri2000> hey crimsun! I have some merges/sync requests waiting on malone, I don't know if you have seen them :p
[06:57] <crimsun> Adri2000: I've been in a phone conf most of the morning
[06:57] <crimsun> (so no, I have not)
[06:57] <luisbg> Laser_away, ping
[06:58] <Adri2000> crimsun: ok, you can see them at +reportedbugs :)
[07:13] <crimsun> that "sound" highlight is driving me batty
[07:39] <jamesbrose> Hello
[07:39] <jamesbrose> How would I add my own ubuntu deb to apt-mirror?
[08:17] <pianoboy3333> What are provides?
[08:27] <imbrandon> jamesbrose, just one deb ?
[08:27] <jamesbrose> Yes
[08:28] <LaserJock> luisbg: pong
[08:28] <imbrandon> jamesbrose, it wasent made to just add / remove one deb, you would have to make a repo just for that one deb then mirror it
[08:28] <imbrandon> heya LaserJock 
[08:31] <ajmitch> morning
[08:32] <Lutin> 'morning ajmitch
[08:33] <LaserJock> hi imbrandon and ajmitch 
[08:34] <ajmitch> imbrandon is here, a rare sight these days
[08:34] <imbrandon> hehe ajmitch yea i lurk alot more
[08:34] <ajmitch> almost as much as I do
[08:35] <imbrandon> i'm actualy here alot durring work i just read backscrolls
[08:35] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:35] <imbrandon> but today ( and the next two ) are mine off
[08:35] <imbrandon> :)
[08:35] <ajmitch> ah
[08:35] <ajmitch> I don't have that luck
[08:35] <imbrandon> mon tue wed seem to be my "normal" days off now
[08:35] <imbrandon> leaste this month
[08:35] <ajmitch> ugh
[08:36] <ajmitch> I prefer having a normal week, and having weekends
[08:36] <ajmitch> since my friends tend to have weekends off as well :)
[08:36] <imbrandon> me too, but i'm still training some new people for the weekends
[08:36] <imbrandon> sooo
[08:36] <ajmitch> ah
[08:37] <ajmitch> yes, I do actually have friends outside of irc ;)
[08:37] <imbrandon> hahah ;)
[08:37] <LaserJock> ajmitch: really?!?
[08:37] <LaserJock> I don't
[08:37] <imbrandon> i met this nice little gurl the other night, took some ubuntu time from me ( not that i was complaining though )
[08:37] <ajmitch> LaserJock: yeah, we had a great night last night at a friend's place :)
[08:38] <fernando> "outside of irc" this makes no sense to me
[08:38] <ajmitch> imbrandon: heh
[08:38] <imbrandon> fact i'm supose to call her today sometime .......... hum
[08:38] <pianoboy3333> What are provides in relation to a package/packaging system?
[08:39] <ajmitch> pianoboy3333: virtual packages
[08:39] <ajmitch> eg apache2 can provide httpd
[08:39] <LaserJock> pianoboy3333: there's also some good info in the Debian Policy
[08:39] <ajmitch> exim & postfix can provide mail-transport-agent
[08:39] <pianoboy3333> ajmitch: but what does that mean if apache2 provides httpd, isn't httpd already another package?
[08:39] <imbrandon> or X for xfree86 and xorg 
[08:40] <pianoboy3333> Is it just explaining what's in the package?
[08:40] <ajmitch> imbrandon: a little harder, they're too many packages now
[08:40] <ajmitch> pianoboy3333: it's for dependencies
[08:40] <imbrandon> ajmitch, true
[08:40] <ajmitch> so you can have something depend on apache2 | httpd
[08:40] <pianoboy3333> I see...
[08:40] <ajmitch> if you have another webserver installed, the package will use that
[08:40] <ajmitch> otherwise it goes with what the package maintainer suggests
[08:40] <imbrandon> or soemthing depend on a mta but dosent care if its postfix or exim
[08:40] <pianoboy3333> so it's like
[08:41] <pianoboy3333> package X also contains what's in package Y, so if something depends on package Y, it could depend on package Y, or X
[08:41] <ajmitch> pretty much
[08:41] <ajmitch> equivalent functionality
[08:41] <imbrandon> mostly yes
[08:41] <pianoboy3333> ok
[08:41] <imbrandon> hum food
[08:41] <ajmitch> mmmm, food
[08:42] <imbrandon> noodles sounds good right now
[08:42] <ajmitch> heh
[08:42] <ajmitch> noodles & mt dew
[08:42] <ajmitch> what a mix
[08:42] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:43] <imbrandon> i finaly got CS:SOURCE to install under kubuntu too
[08:43] <imbrandon> w00t
[08:44] <LaserJock> I haven't tried Ramen+Dew, it could be interesting
[08:44] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:44] <ajmitch> classic student food
[08:44] <LaserJock> I know a guy who always ate his cereal with Dew instead of milk
[08:44] <ajmitch> sick
[08:44] <LaserJock> yeah, that's what I thought
[08:44] <LaserJock> but he was in the army
[08:44] <imbrandon> fruity pebbles and dew is nice
[08:44] <LaserJock> and apparently that was a good way to get food fast
[08:44] <LaserJock> plus some caffeine
[08:45] <imbrandon> heh
[08:45] <imbrandon> hum
[08:45] <imbrandon> i'm trying to install debian via plip,very annoying
[08:46] <ajmitch> how slow is it?
[08:46] <imbrandon> very , special since its on a p133
[08:46] <ajmitch> ouch
[08:46] <imbrandon> with 16mb ram
[08:46] <imbrandon> i just want to run a c64 emu on it
[08:46] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:46] <ajmitch> it'll probably be too slow for that :)
[08:46] <imbrandon> this old lappy with no cdrom or nic
[08:46] <ajmitch> no floppy drive either?
[08:47] <imbrandon> so plip or 100000 floppys was the only choice
[08:47] <ajmitch> nah
[08:47] <ajmitch> I've done a floppy-only install
[08:47] <imbrandon> how many floppys ?
[08:47] <imbrandon> with no nic ?
[08:47] <ajmitch> though that was in the days of potato or earlier
[08:47] <ajmitch> ah, it had a nic, so we just got the bare installer on 
[08:47] <imbrandon> yea
[08:48] <ajmitch> with a stack of floppies
[08:48] <imbrandon> see i booted from a floppy and started the plip install
[08:48] <ajmitch> about 3 that we constantly recycled :)
[08:48] <imbrandon> haha yea
[08:48] <imbrandon> i had to find a floppy drive
[08:48] <imbrandon> i dident have one in any of my computers
[08:57] <ScottK> bddebian and crimsun: The revised postfix-policyd-spf-perl is at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4078 - I'd appreciate it if you would look at it/advocate again.  
[09:00] <zul> hey ajmitch 
[09:01] <ajmitch> hello
[09:10] <bddebian> ScottK: I'm trying, I'm just buried at work atm :-(
[09:11] <LaserJock> hi zul 
[09:11] <ScottK> Understand.  I really appreciate your persistence on helping me.  The only change is to add the GPL preamble that crimsun suggested.
[09:24] <Adri2000> bddebian: are you going to merge gwget2?
[09:29] <bddebian> Adri2000: Go ahead and try it :)
[09:29] <Adri2000> I already *tried* :)
[09:52] <tsmithe> bddebian, could you advocate alsa-firmware? :P
[09:57] <bddebian> tsmithe: Did you fix it? :)
[09:57] <tsmithe> well
[09:58] <tsmithe> which?
[09:58] <bddebian> All of them ;-P
[09:58] <tsmithe> huh?? /me confuzzled
[09:59] <Adri2000> LaserJock: in http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/motutodo/universe.html wouldn't it be possible to have a link to the last debian changelog?
[10:01] <ScottK> bddebian: While tsmithe is confused, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4079 is updated to resolve crimsun's comments in addition to http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4078 that I mentioned earlier...
[10:02] <Nafallo> bddebian: vare to look at wave-look @ REVU?
[10:02] <bddebian> tsmithe: I want to talk to crimsun about it since it's alsa and firmware packages aren't my specialty
[10:03] <tsmithe> oh ok
[10:03] <tsmithe> awh
[10:03] <tsmithe> bddebian, i dunno how to fix the alsa-tools script problem, and i don't know how to do man pages for apps i don't know what they do, and am only updating to fix an issue with the new alsa-firmware
[10:03] <tsmithe> plus
[10:03] <ScottK> Nafallo: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3570
[10:03] <tsmithe> the lintian errors on alsa-firmware *are* to de expected
[10:03] <geser> Adri2000: isn't the link to the PTS enough?
[10:03] <Nafallo> ScottK: indeed :-)
[10:05] <bddebian> I've never heard of an "expected" lintian error :)
[10:07] <tsmithe> bddebian, well they are firmware
[10:07] <tsmithe> *s
[10:07] <tsmithe> so they are to expect that error
[10:08] <ScottK> tsmithe: If they are expected, you might want to create over-rides for them and document why.  Then it'll be clearer to people what's going on. http://lintian.debian.org/manual/ch2.html#s2.4
[10:09] <tsmithe> hmm
[10:09] <tsmithe> ok
[10:09] <tsmithe> thanks
[10:09] <LaserJock> Adri2000: it's possible, I just don't want to crowd it too much
[10:23] <Nafallo> hmm
[10:23] <Nafallo> that LDAP thing in the Ubuntu Classroom? when was that again?
[10:29] <tsmithe> open week?
[10:31] <LaserJock> Nafallo: ask imbrandon 
[10:31] <Nafallo> imbrandon: at LDAP thing in the Ubuntu Classroom? when was that again?
[10:31] <Nafallo> :-)
[10:39] <LaserJock> hmm, any schroot users around?
[10:40] <Adri2000> LaserJock: it'd be useful to see if changes in debian are enough important to request a sync
[10:40] <geser> I use it for preparing uploads
[10:40] <LaserJock> Adri2000: yes, but you can also get that from the PTS link
[10:41] <LaserJock> Adri2000: just with a few more clicks
[10:41] <LaserJock> geser: do you have a feisty one?
[10:41] <LaserJock> I assume so
[10:41] <geser> LaserJock: yes
[10:41] <Adri2000> LaserJock: ok :)
[10:41] <geser> Adri2000: sometimes you need more than the last changelog
[10:41] <LaserJock> geser: would you mind pastebining your config for me?
[10:42] <joejaxx> Hello Everyone
[10:42] <imbrandon> Nafallo, tomarrow
[10:42] <bddebian> Heya joejaxx
[10:42] <Nafallo> imbrandon: ah. any time set yet? :-)
[10:43] <imbrandon> ummm, i dont rember to be honest, i would have to check my email
[10:43] <joejaxx> bddebian: :)
[10:43] <LaserJock> Nafallo: right after he's stocked is frig with Mt. Dew
[10:43] <bddebian> heh
[10:43] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:43] <Nafallo> haha
[10:43] <bddebian> Nafallo: Go fix wave-look :-)
[10:43] <imbrandon> man its snowy and icey outside, but i dont wanna stay home
[10:44] <tsmithe> imbrandon, lucky devil
[10:44] <Nafallo> bddebian: what's wrong with it? :-P
[10:44] <Nafallo> aha
[10:44] <Nafallo> comments maybe :-)
[10:44] <imbrandon> tsmithe, lucky?
[10:44] <tsmithe> for snow, yeah!
[10:44] <imbrandon> i hate the snow
[10:44] <imbrandon> lol
[10:45] <imbrandon> ugh another mailing list 
[10:45] <white> hehe
[10:45] <imbrandon> i already ignore the 50 i'm on
[10:45] <white> well then one more does not make a difference ;)
[10:45] <bddebian> heh
[10:46] <nixternal> haha
[10:46] <bddebian> What's utnubu?
[10:46] <imbrandon> typo i hope
[10:46] <siretart> nope
[10:46] <white> the "merging things from ubuntu into debian" project
[10:46] <nixternal> i have always wondered the same. probably some drunk coder did a typo and it stuck
[10:46] <bddebian> Heya siretart
[10:46] <shawarma> No, it's ubuntu backwards.
[10:46] <bddebian> Oh, I thought that died? ;-P
[10:46] <nixternal> or that
[10:46] <nixternal> hahahaha
[10:46] <siretart> bddebian: utnubu is an debian initiative to merge ubuntu work back to debian!
[10:46] <bddebian> siretart: Yeah, I recall that now :)
[10:47] <ajmitch> hi siretart 
[10:47] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[10:47] <siretart> bddebian: white (and some other crazy guys like me) want to revive it
[10:47] <imbrandon> ohh, i just work with my dd sponsors for the packages i look after heh
[10:47] <siretart> huhu ajmitch, hi imbrandon 
[10:47] <imbrandon> heya siretart 
[10:47] <bddebian> siretart: Are you a DD?
[10:47] <siretart> bddebian: since about a wekk, yes ;)
[10:47] <bddebian> Ah, nice, congrats
[10:47] <LaserJock> \o/
[10:47] <imbrandon> congrats siretart 
[10:47] <ajmitch> siretart: well done
[10:47] <siretart> bddebian: slomo as well, btw :)
[10:47] <bddebian> whoa
[10:48] <imbrandon> i have another DD to bug then ;)
[10:48] <bddebian> heh
[10:48] <white> imbrandon: that's what utnubu is about as well ;)
[10:48] <imbrandon> heh, i'll need an advocate soon i guess ( soon == next 6 months )
[10:48] <siretart> the channel here seems to be pretty crouded with DDs.. which is great
[10:49] <imbrandon> white, i have 2 or 3 that i bug now and then ( and 2 or 3 that bug me about stuff in ubuntu ;P )
[10:49] <bddebian> ScottK: What changed in libnet-dns-foo-bar-baz?
[10:49] <ajmitch> people know not to bug me
[10:49] <imbrandon> :)
[10:50] <imbrandon> hum , time for a clean install, i think i've messed this one up enough
[10:50] <Nafallo> ajmitch: I'm not people ;-)
[10:50] <ScottK> bddebian: I added the license preambles crimsun wanted and added README.Debian-source to the docs file to it gets installed.
[10:50] <LaserJock> well, I hope utnubu gets revived. I'm a little skeptical of projects like that but it'd be nice if they worked well ;-)
[10:50] <white> LaserJock: feel free to join in, you are welcome :)
[10:51] <white> some manpower for writing the wnpp bugs and asking the ubuntu developers if they want to take care of the package in debian as well is needed
[10:52] <white> and then of course reviewing, or giving advices if needed and stuff
[10:52] <bddebian> ScottK: Oh, I thought that was the other one.. Hmm
[10:52] <imbrandon> where is the ML signup page, i guess one more procmail rule wont kill me
[10:52] <Nafallo> hehe
[10:52] <ajmitch> over 1000 rules yet? :)
[10:53] <imbrandon> close
[10:53] <imbrandon> heh
[10:53] <ScottK> bddebian: They both needed the license change.
[10:53] <white> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/utnubu-discuss
[10:53] <ScottK> That was the only change in the other one.
[10:53] <LaserJock> imbrandon: seriously?!?
[10:53] <imbrandon> can we get a naibed-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ? heheh just tesin
[10:53] <LaserJock> when I used procmail I had ~ 20 rules
[10:53] <ajmitch> imbrandon: no
[10:55] <bddebian> ScottK: OK, got it
[10:55] <ScottK> Thanks.
[10:57] <imbrandon> heh
[10:58] <imbrandon> LaserJock, did you see http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/15/198212&from=rss
[10:58] <imbrandon> that might intrest you
[10:58] <ScottK> bddebian: Thanks for the re-review/advocacy. Any other MOTUs up for looking at  http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4079 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4078 - They are both in need of a 2nd advocate.
[10:59] <LaserJock> imbrandon: wow, that is interesting
[11:00] <Lutin> LaserJock: could you have a look at kayali on revu ? computer algebra system, might interest you :)
[11:00] <bddebian> Lutin: I'm uploading it now :-)
[11:00] <Lutin> bddebian: ohhh great :)
[11:00] <Lutin> thanks :)
[11:00] <LaserJock> phew, got out of that one ;-)
[11:01] <Lutin> hehe
[11:01] <ajmitch> LaserJock: you just have to learn how to duck fast
[11:04] <imbrandon> haha
[11:04] <imbrandon> wow , ok this laptop is going in the trash
[11:05] <imbrandon> 12+ munites to load a c64 emulator
[11:05] <imbrandon> i mean damn its only a 6510 1mhz proc
[11:05] <imbrandon> i wonder if i could rip the lcd out of it for anything usefull
[11:06] <imbrandon> s/usefull/geek worthy
[11:08] <Nafallo> lol
[11:09] <imbrandon> yea the c64 ran at something like 1.04 mhz
[11:09] <imbrandon> dont rember exactly but something close to that
[11:09] <ScottK> Of course it way only a 6502, not the advanced 6510.
[11:09] <ScottK> way/was
[11:09] <imbrandon> the 6510 was justa 6502 with more busses iirc
[11:10] <imbrandon> ahh yea
[11:10] <imbrandon> 6510 @ 1.02 MHz (NTSC version) / 0.99MHz (PAL version)
[11:11] <imbrandon> peeks and pokes from my childhood
[11:11] <imbrandon> heh
[11:11] <ScottK> Didn't know that.  I went from 6502 to Z80 and nevery did anything with 6510.
[11:11] <imbrandon> yea , infact the c64 had an add on cart that added a z80 proc
[11:11] <imbrandon> so you could do cb/m stuff
[11:12] <ScottK> Yep.  I had an add-on card for my Apple ] [+ that did Z80.
[11:12] <bddebian> Sing it LaserJock
[11:12] <tsmithe> @lart lintian-overrides! why do you hate me, lintian???
[11:13] <imbrandon> MOS Technology 6510/8500 (the 6510/8500 being a modified 6502 with an integrated 6-bit I/O port)
[11:13] <imbrandon> ScottK, ^^
[11:13] <ScottK> Hrrm.  This brings back memories.
[11:13] <imbrandon> heh i even though about getting one of those c64 DTV things and modding it the other day
[11:13] <ScottK> It was a Z80 project on the Apple ] [+ that was the first time I stayed awake so long programming that I started hallucinating.
[11:14] <imbrandon> hahaha
[11:14] <ScottK> When the guy over your shoulder starts making suggestions and you're the only one in the room, it's time to go to bed.
[11:15] <imbrandon> or when you feel something cold on your shoulder and look up to see its the floor , it might be time to stay there
[11:16] <ScottK> Yeah, althougth that's never happened to me because of programming.
[11:16] <LaserJock> hmm
[11:16] <imbrandon> hahaha
[11:19] <crimsun> bddebian: hi
[11:20] <ScottK> crimsun: Hi.
[11:20] <crimsun> ScottK: hi
[11:21] <imbrandon> hi, *
[11:21] <crimsun> hi, motu trinity member
[11:21] <bddebian> crimsun: Heya
[11:21] <LaserJock> bah
[11:21] <ScottK> I updated my packages to fix the licensing question and install the README.Debian-packaging problems http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4078 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4079 I'd appreciate another look when you have a moment.
[11:21] <crimsun> wow, all three of the trinity present
[11:21] <crimsun> we are blessed!
[11:22] <imbrandon> lol
[11:23] <LaserJock> hmm, I saw s/blessed/cursed/ 
[11:23] <bddebian> heh
[11:23] <bddebian> crimsun: If you get a minute could you possibly check out alsa-tools and alsa-firmware on REVU?
[11:24] <crimsun> I've been attempting to get revu work done, but wifi has not been cooperating, so I took a break to swim
[11:25] <LaserJock> birrrr, too cold to swim here
[11:27] <bddebian> crimsun: No worries
[11:28] <tsmithe> crimsun, so are you possibly able to do some now? /me asks
[11:28] <crimsun> tsmithe: you're queued behind ScottK 
[11:29] <ScottK> Cool.
[11:29] <tsmithe> crimsun, cool
[11:29] <tsmithe> k
[11:29] <Adri2000> crimsun: and where am I? :p
[11:29] <crimsun> sheesh
[11:30] <LaserJock> hmm, schroot is creeping me out. I'm not sure what it's doing :-)
[11:30] <tsmithe> bddebian, thanks greatly for asking for me :D
[11:30] <bddebian> Adri2000: What's your package?
[11:30] <Adri2000> bddebian: it's merges and syncs on malone
[11:30] <bddebian> Ah, pfft :)
[11:31] <Adri2000> https://launchpad.net/~adri2000/+reportedbugs :)
[11:33] <crimsun>   postfix-policyd-spf-perl_1.08.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[11:33] <crimsun> Successfully uploaded packages.
[11:33] <crimsun> thanks for your work!
[11:33] <ScottK> Thank you!
[11:34] <bddebian> w00t, finally! :-)
[11:38] <crimsun> ScottK: sorry, I should have been clearer: the section that's normally quoted in debian/copyright is the section at the end of /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL
[11:39] <ScottK> Argh.
[11:39] <crimsun> ScottK: the part following "To do so, attach the following notices to the program"
[11:39] <ScottK> OK.
[11:39] <ScottK> How about the artistic license quote?
[11:39] <crimsun> that's fine
[11:39] <ScottK> OK.
[11:39] <ScottK> I'll be right back.
[11:42] <bddebian> Gah, gotta head home, later gang
[11:42] <crimsun> cya
[11:42] <ScottK> Arghhh
[11:50] <ScottK> crimsun: The new ID is http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4081.  I'd appreciate getting another look...
[11:57] <crimsun>   libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl_0.002.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[11:57] <crimsun> thank yo!
[11:57] <crimsun> you, even
[11:57] <crimsun> Successfully uploaded packages.
[12:00] <Hello58>  hi all
[12:00] <ScottK> Thanks for reviewing.  The one remaining package I have pending needs that one in the archives before it will build, so in the meantime I'll review that package for lessons learned from these two.
[12:00] <ScottK> HI Hello58
[12:01] <Hello58>  hi scott
[12:01] <Hello58>  can you help me out with installation of murrine?
[12:02] <crimsun> ...
[12:03] <crimsun> ok, there's conspiracy afoot
[12:03] <crimsun> that random drive-by corresponded with a panhandler just accosting me in the coffee shop
[12:05] <LaserJock> crimsun: hmm, see anybody in a suit and black glasses around?
[12:06] <LaserJock> if somebody comes up to you and says their name is Jack Bauer, run
[12:08] <geser> LaserJock: did you got schroot running?
[12:10] <LaserJock> geser: yes, although I'm not really sure how to use it or what it's doing
[12:10] <LaserJock> I did schroot -c feisty and I get a chroot
[12:10] <LaserJock> it must mount my /home though
[12:11] <geser> schroot does it for me (mounting /home)