=== fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] bddebian, about my lintian error on alsa-firmware, it is indeed to be expected [12:20] and thanks for the revu [12:20] :) [12:21] and as i said about the man pages on alsa-tools; i don't think that's valid either [12:21] i'll look into the script [12:21] but i don't recall modifying it - so it should be identical to the current feisty version === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] Could be [12:26] thing is - it's autogenerated... === kingthr [n=kingthr@60.17.200.117] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kingthr [n=kingthr@60.17.200.117] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === TerminX [i=2bb4362b@adsl-68-124-137-143.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] Adri2000: I was away. Now filing bugs on gaphor, flpsed. === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] hm, is this channel where I would mention a bug in a package in universe? [12:49] TerminX: Kind of. You really should file it on launchpad.. [12:50] launchpad mcQuack [12:50] I searched for the package on launchpad and didn't find it, and it's only a dependency problem anyway [12:50] TerminX: That said, if you need some sort of clarification, then yes, this is it. [12:50] TerminX: Which package is it? [12:50] package slidentd seems to depend on specific inetd packages, which means I can't use it with xinetd [12:51] they look to be added dependencies that the original debian package doesn't have (in other words, the debian package works with no issues) [12:53] I suppose the most corretct fix would be to make xinetd provide inet-superserver. [12:55] should I file a bug against xinetd on launchpad then? === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-145-177.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] Right. [12:56] It's in main, so we can't really help you directly. [12:57] it, uh, won't let me file a bug on xinetd === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] TerminX: How so? [12:57] it tells me to use its official bug tracker, but that isn't exactly going to be useful when it's something that just needs to be corrected in the package === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] TerminX: Ah. [12:58] TerminX: The thing to remember is that launchpad is not only for Ubuntu. === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] TerminX: And since this is a ubuntu specific issue, you need to go to the frontpage and select Ubuntu. [12:58] TerminX: ...and *then* find xinetd and file a bug on it. [12:58] TerminX: Makes sense? [12:58] heh, oops [12:59] TerminX: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xinetd/+filebug === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kingthr [n=kingthr@60.19.129.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-1-133.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === YokoZar [n=scott@c-76-20-12-84.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@202.71.179.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@202.71.179.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macogw [n=mack@c-24-3-144-4.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] sweet, bugmail! === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-122-159.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] LaserJock: ?? === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] lies [04:18] we have no bugs [04:18] heh [04:18] ajmitch: You finally fixed them all? :) [04:18] ajmitch, Only 2 open bug reports over last week ;] [04:18] bddebian: no, that's up to you === ajmitch is no developer [04:19] Bah, I can't fix nuttin' :-( [04:19] hey ajmitch, somerville32, bddebian [04:19] hello Burgundavia [04:19] Hi Burgundavia [04:20] how's it going? [04:20] Hiya Burgundavia [04:20] not bad [04:20] "enjoying" alberta [04:20] is bloody cold here [04:21] exciting [04:22] bddebian: I subscribed to ubuntu-universe-sponsors list [04:23] I was trying to the other night but it didn't work [04:23] but now I got it [04:23] Ahh [04:24] How did someone get a foo.tar.gz to upload to REVU? [04:26] bddebian: how far did you get through the science bug list? [04:27] All the way, though I didn't get many fixed yet :'-( === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch hasn't fixed a bug or uploaded a package for weeks === ajmitch is so slack [04:29] bddebian: rockin' dude, thanks [04:30] ajmitch: I thought I saw some zope stuff float by, was that Klose or you? [04:30] old sync requests [04:30] really old :) [04:30] or maybe not === ajmitch shrugs [04:31] doesn't look like it was me that requested those, so that's ok [04:32] Laserjock: are you available for REVU? === ajmitch can retire in peace [04:32] ScottK: Which package? [04:32] I have http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071 that are looking for a 2nd sponsor. [04:33] somerville32: I think you've looked at these already. [04:33] I know you looked at 4070, not sure about 4071. === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-108-129.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-108-129.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] persia: beware of subscribing u-a prior w/o an ACK [05:27] crimsun: Ah. That's an error in my understanding. I'll avoid that in future. Thanks for the note. [05:29] persia: were you following a wiki page? [05:29] crimsun: My memory, but I'll check the wiki page I loaded from in a couple minutes. [05:35] do be do be doo [05:38] crimsun: Would you be up for a little REVU? === SWAT__ [n=SWAT@a80-100-68-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071 that are looking for a 2nd sponsor [05:38] crimsun: The procedure is described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources. I started adding u-u-s as well after Tollef advised me about ACKs for bug 78751. [05:38] Malone bug 78751 in survex "Please sync survex 1.0.39.1-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78751 [05:43] crimsun: we should have MOTU page outlining procedures for that, IMO [05:46] what "procedures" or "processes" do we need a writeup on? [05:48] probably the material I'd cover in a -school session [05:48] mhm [05:48] how to request a sync [05:48] how to request processing of a merge [05:49] do you want something written up beforehad? [05:49] LaserJock: For a list, I'd start from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/. Some of these age, and the procedures are not necessarily entirely clear (even from the Q&A logs). [05:51] sync, merge, SRU, UVF, new package [05:51] LaserJock: non-MOTU bugfix updates [05:52] k [05:52] persia: bug 79349 will depwait on the new uqm being synced (which means it needs an accompanying sync request) [05:52] Malone bug 79349 in uqm-content "Please sync uqm-content 0.6.0.1 (multiverse) frrom Debian sid (non-free)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79349 [05:53] crimsun: See bug 79350 [05:53] (yes, it's ok to override Ubuntu changes for uqm) [05:53] Malone bug 79350 in uqm "merge uqm 0.6.1-2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79350 [05:54] crimsun: uqm FTBFS on feisty. I'll let Joey know as soon as I can replicate in a sid environment. [05:54] why does it ftbfs? [05:54] crimsun: libmikmod2-dev is not in B-D [05:54] yes it is [05:55] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/u/uqm/uqm_0.6.1-2.dsc [05:55] it's the last b-d [05:55] I'm speaking specifically of the sync ; I saw the merge request [05:55] a merge is unnecessary; a sync is sufficient [05:56] crimsun: It wasn't locally for some reason. I'm off to reject 79750 :) [05:56] persia: you pbuilt uqm from sid and it ftbfs? [05:56] crimsun: Yes, but I appear to have made a mistake. Retrying... [05:58] crimsun: do you want policy wiki docs worked on before or after your session? [05:58] ooh, crimsun is doing a session? [05:59] as soon as he gives me a date/time ;-) [05:59] LaserJock: I see no reason for work to block on the session [05:59] crimsun: k, I might make some stubs tonight [05:59] great [06:01] once we get those nailed down little bit I'd like to put those in the packaging guide [06:02] crimsun: Thanks for the check: It was my mistake. I'm not sure how the B-D line was damaged. merge bug killed, raising sync bug. [06:04] Gah, compiz has too big of build-deps.. === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-220-42.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] hi there [06:13] Heya Lutin [06:14] has anybody be using Daniel's bughelper script? [06:16] not yet [06:19] LaserJock: btw, could you have a look at kayali on revu when you'll have some time ? [06:20] geser rocked gnome 396477 [06:20] Gnome bug 396477 in linux "stack overflow in sysdeps/linux/procmap.c: glibtop_get_proc_map_s()" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396477 [06:20] Whew, I think I finally have a comment on every package on REVU that I can comment on.. [06:23] well done [06:23] Well my reviews are shit apparently but I'm trying :) [06:23] better than mine [06:29] ajmitch: Only when you don't do them :) [06:31] exactly === ajmitch cannot hope to compare, so doesn't bother [06:32] Bah === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:34] will LTS ever have a zimbra packaged for the repos? [06:35] no [06:35] hello Burgundavia [06:35] http://www.zimbra.com/index.html [06:35] hey joejaxx [06:36] unix_infidel: yep, aware what zimbra is. Unless it gets backported, no [06:36] Burgundavia: is it expected for the next LTS? [06:36] fawn iirc [06:36] if somebody packages it [06:36] and 7.04 will not be an LTS [06:37] Backport a NEW package? Is that ever done? [06:37] yes [06:37] Sounds dangerous to me :) [06:38] bddebian: :) [06:38] the world is dangerous [06:38] leaf apps have little bearing on the general order of the world [06:38] leaf apps? [06:38] apps which have nothing depending on them [06:39] Ahh === Marsmensch [n=daniel@149-203-116-85.dsl.manitu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] Ah well, gnight gang === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] I have a announcement, pbuilder rocks! -- that is all. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:36] heya freeflying === YokoZar [n=scott@c-76-20-12-84.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] I don't suppose anybody in here is good with w3m? [08:10] can't say that i am [08:11] but i did just build a new kubuntu-docs package from the ground up (and it is 99% functional at this time) [08:11] i am hoping it will generate the bug reports now before final release, unlike the edgy release [08:11] LaserJock: lynx is easier, why? [08:11] Hobbsee: i think i tried to tell him that the other day :) [08:12] whatever [08:12] I just want the best CLI browser [08:12] I was using w3m but I couldn't select text that was a URL [08:13] links2 ? === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] LaserJock: links2 is good [08:14] so's elinks [08:14] w3m is difficult [08:14] anyway, try the right arrow, over the link [08:16] hmm, lynx lets me select the text [08:16] links2 doesn't [08:16] LaserJock: w3m -no-mouse let's you select text, but you can't click links. [08:17] ah [08:17] Hobbsee: what's your favorite CLI browser? lynx? [08:17] persia: how about you? [08:18] links2 does javascript, which I need for some sites [08:18] LaserJock: lynx, mostly [08:18] LaserJock: ask TheMuso [08:18] yuck dude, just use nc. [08:18] like my router's config page =) [08:18] LaserJock: I forget why I stopped using lynx, but I've mostly migrated from w3m to GUI browsers :( [08:19] crimsun: nc? [08:19] netcat? [08:19] yep [08:19] heh [08:20] only the hardcore crimsun ;p [08:20] nah, that's bddebian. He thinks, and It Is. === lupine_85 is so hardcore he uses netcat for remotely upgrading his firewall [08:21] crimsun: hmm, that's a little too minimal for me I think [08:21] not recommended over the wider internet though ;) [08:21] I'm just tired of using GUI browsers for LP/Debian [08:21] haha, LaserJock needs something more hardcore [08:21] links2 was pretty nice when I used it === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] crimsun: what do you usually use, FF? [08:22] w3m and FF [08:23] I don't have administrative access on most of the Ubuntu machines here [08:24] bummer [08:24] hmm, I don't use many machines that I don't have admin access to [08:24] nah, saves me headaches. Then I can just whine at the admin. [08:24] yeah, that's what I was just thinking === Hobbsee|NotHere [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:25] I should make one of the new grad students admin ;-) [08:25] we pretty much converted an entire engineering college to use nexenta and ubuntu [08:25] sweet [08:25] my school seems very anti-linux === lupine_85 lurves konqueror === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] hey deitys? [08:31] one of you figure out how to work the home phone here please... [08:32] wow, links2 in graphical mode is pretty sweet [08:34] crimsun: did you take care of the icewm merge request on u-u-s? === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-40.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro__ [n=rpedro@87-196-106-121.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] LaserJock: no [08:50] crimsun: ok, I've got it [08:50] LaserJock: there was a period yesterday where I was unsubbed from u-u-s and awaiting moderator approval for resub during which I didn't receive any [08:51] crimsun: really? [08:52] crimsun: ok, I wondered [08:52] crimsun: well, according to times I got them before I got my sub confirmation [08:52] maybe I stole them from you ;-) [08:52] Hobbsee: yes, due to the receiving doubles of every post === guibis [n=guibis@bxs53.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] so I unsubbed and resubbed to take care of that [08:53] crimsun: ahh [08:53] crimsun: has that stopped? [08:53] yes, it's fine now [08:54] cool : [08:54] ) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@30.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dogmatism [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73599.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] uh oh, dholbach's on [09:15] good morning [09:15] that's my cue to go to bed ;-) [09:16] hey LaserJock [09:17] hi dholbach [09:22] Hobbsee: What did Laser_away want? [09:23] TheMuso: to know what the best cli browser was [09:23] Laser_away: Whenever you return, elinks is the best atm. [09:23] TheMuso: did you go to lowenbrau last night? i didnt see you there... [09:23] Hobbsee: No. [09:24] TheMuso: :( [09:24] Hobbsee: Mainly not knowing the public transport system in that area, and not wanting to get stuck out somewhere that I didn't know. [09:25] TheMuso: :( [09:25] TheMuso: there were plenty of us around, we could have found you === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar_ [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === white [n=white@user.skolelinux.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] Hobbsee: Ah well. [09:27] I will be seeing people all of this week anyway. [09:28] TheMuso: :) [09:28] Hobbsee: You coming on Thursday [09:28] TheMuso: yes [09:28] TheMuso: have you seen elky today? [09:29] Hobbsee: Not yet. I know she was around, but didn't get a chance to meet her. === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-31-252.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] TheMuso: right. guess it's a bit silly asking you to look for her, and ask if she's got those cd's yet... [09:29] TheMuso: you're all otu of sessions nwo? [09:30] Hobbsee: Yeah. I'm actually at home [09:30] ah! so it's silly on two counts then! === KaSto [n=Herthane@p54BD1AD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@32-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] Hobbsee: She does. I know this because I handed them to her about an hour ago. [09:37] StevenK: cool :) === StevenK went from Burwood to Kensignton, then to Ashfield and then home. [09:37] fun [09:37] Nuh uh === afflux [n=root@Ub8dd.u.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] Would anyone happen to know or have any idea why apt-build is behaving strangely with my packages/repository -- It refuses to download the sources? http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/apt-build-weirdness.txt [09:56] <\sh> moins [09:57] Morning === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] Gah, the package builds perfectly if I apt-get source and pbuilder/debuild/dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it... And apt-build won't even download it. === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.182.18] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] persia: file a bug in debian for linpopup's .desktop file? ;) === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] Adri2000: Hey! I just uploaded the diff. I need a couple minutes to file a debian bug as well :) [10:29] Adri2000: [10:29] eheh, ok :p [10:30] Adri2000: I hope don't mind about bitpim: I had just been looking at it before I fell asleep, and was certain that a sync wouldn't work. [10:33] persia: and you are still certain? [10:34] Adri2000: Yes. debian/control in the sid source sets a binary dependency on python-ctypes, which is no longer a separate package for python2.5. [10:35] (because python 2.5 includes ctypes internally) [10:35] ok, then no problem, I don't mind :) [10:36] I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to process .desktop files for the gnome file manager, but it's confusing when you actually want to select the .desktop file instead of the target :( [10:48] c === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] ALL. FLASH. SUCKS. AND. WEBSITES. USING. IT. DESERVE. TO. DIE!!! [11:03] gah! [11:04] Hobbsee: doesn't gnash work? [11:04] white: mplayer plugin works, i got to where i wanted. just it wont actually let you enter the site without flash 8 [11:04] bah [11:05] Hobbsee: That's evil website designers, not evil flash. Kill the guilty, leave the innocent to offend later. [11:05] persia: flash. is. not. innocent. [11:05] persia: linux version is still at 7.* [11:06] persia: well, it is sony. they're a known evil [11:08] Hobbsee: OK. There are several evils. === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.198.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nate19 [n=troutbum@65-78-94-88.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] !info cfv [11:49] cfv: versatile file checksum creator and verifier. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.18.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 172 kB === nate19 [n=troutbum@65-78-94-88.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:55] oh christ [11:55] yay for uploading without adding to debian/patches/series [11:56] I've done worse [11:56] well, I know 11-xv_lockup.patch's not a regression at least === crimsun steps through the debuild-test procedure with 13-i915_bios_fails_on_xserver_restart.patch === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] siretart: +0.7, eh? :) [12:18] Oh no, not decimal SRU votes [12:18] Don't make me vote +1.3 :-P [12:19] Hi folks, i have question: there is a small bug in a package I use. The package does not have an official Ubuntu maintainer, but the Debian package has. Now the same issue occurs in Debian testing/unstable. The fix just a very simple dependency issue, but what is the "correct" soluction? Contact Debian maintainer, wait untill she fixes it and import that or try to get it fixed in Ubunty Edgy/other releases ? [12:20] which package? [12:20] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-ssh [12:21] ok, so there's no existing Ubuntu delta. In that case, it's probably preferable to push the fix directly to Debian, and then Ubuntu will sync from Sid. [12:21] now depending how "small" this bug is... [12:22] what does "existing Ubuntu delta" mean? [12:22] ok, its in Debians bugtracker, so I guess the maintainer will pick it up [12:22] the current source version is 1.91.0-9.1, which is a direct sync from Debian [12:23] check [12:25] crimsun: yay! (well, count that as +1) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moroco [n=moroco@190.72.113.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80 [n=Simon80@rn-v1n5b15.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.198.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] I'm working on libjsw. I would like to make a single upload of a new upstream version with packaging changes to close all open Ubuntu bugs and an additional Debian bug. How should I upload the new package? [01:36] persia: uh...REVU...bug with the debdiff of debian/* would be good [01:37] persia: seeing as just a debdiff would suck. and so would just REVU. although that would suck less. just. [01:38] Hobbsee: Thanks. Now I have yet more motivation to fix GPG. I don't suppose you know how I hunt down and kill old keys floating around on the keyservers? [01:39] persia: do you have the revocations for them? [01:39] ie, the rev... certificates? [01:39] to do with revoking [01:40] Hobbsee: If I spend a day or so, I might be able to find the disks on which the secrets lie (they are very old). [01:40] ah [01:40] persia: dunno if you can just ignore them.... [01:40] you'd have to use your private key to revoke [01:41] there's no other way to prove that you are the owner of that key, without hte private one [01:41] however, people will tend to use the key on LP [01:41] Hobbsee: That's my fear as well - duplicates lead to confusion. Perhaps I'll raise a bug on libjsw saying "don't fix this", and go hunt through my old disks. [01:42] persia: well, they'll use the signed one...and the one that's being used, and the one you're signing mail with [01:42] Hobbsee: You're suggesting just to ignore the old one for purposes of REVU & LP? [01:42] persia: for the moment, yeah... [01:43] Hobbsee: Well, if that's acceptable to Ubuntu, I'm happy. I can procrastinate for even longer :) [01:43] persia: heh [01:44] persia: it's better to get rid of them - and generate a revoking certificate for this key, if you ever have to use it === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] heya freeflying :) [01:45] Hobbsee: Yep. With new disk sizes, I become more and more likely to clean up my stack of <10GB disks, and will surely find the keys in the process. [01:46] persia: cool [01:46] Lutin: hi [01:47] how are you ? === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guibis [n=guibis@bza161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === afflux [n=root@Ub8dd.u.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] Processes are fun! Could a REVU admin please sync my key to the REVU keyring? === Whoopie_ [n=Whoopie@unaffiliated/whoopie] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] siretart: ^ [02:15] crimsun: hi, is the acroread package in feisty intended for a security update in edgy? any plans? [02:16] sec [02:16] siretart: No hurry. libjsw still needs a couple hours work. === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] persia: done [02:26] siretart: Thanks. [02:27] <\sh> re === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_84 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Enchained [n=cyrille@88.166.169.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] <_Enchained> Hi everybody === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LongPointyStick [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] <\sh> http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-XP-Home-Edition-License-Key_W0QQitemZ150080733165QQihZ005QQcategoryZ41887 [03:53] lol === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] <_Enchained> Hi bddebian :) [03:55] Heya gang [03:55] Hi _Enchained [03:56] <\sh> hey bddebian [03:56] <_Enchained> bddebian: dvd95 is updated on revu ;) [03:56] Hi \sh [03:56] _Enchained: OK [03:56] <_Enchained> and waiting for you loll [03:56] <_Enchained> I've added a manpage and corrected some little things === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] hi [04:01] pygame broken in edgy ? [04:01] for python2.5 === proppy hugs dholbach [04:02] heya proppy === dholbach hugs proppy back :) [04:03] hay bddebian :) [04:04] bddebian: sorry, I updated kayali again, could you have a look at it ? [04:04] will check against the source package, cause it only install in python2.4/site-packages, but not in python2.5 [04:06] Lutin: Yeah, probably in a bit [04:06] ok bddebian, thanks :) === bddebian wonders how he became the REVU "guy" :-) [04:06] bddebian: You're responsive :) [04:07] XS-Python-Version: 2.4 in pygame [04:08] a not >= 2.4 === parktownprawn [n=kevin@203.212.216.128] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] bddebian: cause you do a grat job on revu :-) [04:10] great* [04:11] Lutin: Not hardly, but thanks [04:11] proppy: File a bug, being sure to mark is as an 6.10 bug. It's fixed in Debian and Feisty. === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] persia: i just checked again the file list of packages.ubuntu.com for feisty [04:13] persia: it's seems to have the same pb [04:13] persia: but i must double check on a real feisty === afflux [n=root@Ub8dd.u.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] persia: are you sure this a edgy only issue ? [04:15] proppy: Yes. [04:15] persia: +XS-Python-Version: >= 2.3 [04:15] persia: yep its corrected in current unstable [04:15] persia: thanks === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] persia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygame/+bug/79409 [04:30] Malone bug 79409 in pygame "[6.10 only] pygame doesn't install in python2.5 on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-145-177.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] Whoopie_: 7.04 no longer contains acroread [04:43] Whoopie_: in light of its removal (both source and binary), it's questionable whether any effort should be expended on a security update [04:43] crimsun: looking at bug 78339, you updated it. But why did you remove it? [04:43] Malone bug 78339 in acroread "Universal XSS" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78339 [04:44] Whoopie_: the issue is of course that we are not, according to the EULA, allowed to redistribute it without an agreement with Adobe. [04:44] Whoopie_: no, the issue is covered in bug 43780 [04:44] Malone bug 43780 in acroread "Acroread: Redistribution may not be allowed" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43780 [04:45] crimsun: ok, so you fixed both. ;) [04:45] Whoopie_: I am solely responsible for the update. The removal from the archive is not my decision. [04:45] Nor am I an archive admin. [04:47] np at all. I have a problem with password protected pdfs with evince. so acroread was the workaround. [04:49] but as you shiped it with edgy, a security update would be wise. === lakin [n=lakin@206.174.196.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asabil [n=asabil@ifaedi.insa-lyon.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] hi all [05:28] how can I request a software to be added to feisty ? === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] asabil: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates [05:42] unfortunately the last time I submitted something there it just remained there :/ [05:43] asabil: the other solution is to create the package yourself and get it on revu reviewed [05:43] okey thanks === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] Is there another REVU sprint planned for Feisty? The last one got me started here and I think another would be of benifit. [06:01] ScottK: maybe it's a bit late now, uvf in on feb. 8th iirc [06:01] I know. [06:02] I've got two packages with one sponsor right now and another that's waiting for one of those before it can be REVUed. [06:02] I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing to get stuff in by then... [06:04] I was sort of hoping for another push before Feb 8. [06:05] which upids? [06:08] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071 [06:09] crimsun: Real life called me AFK for a few minutes. === grazieno [n=ubuntu3@200.128.80.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] ok, I'll look now [06:17] (sorry, phone conf) [06:18] Understand and thanks. === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] ScottK: for postfix-policyd-spf-perl, it'd be a good idea to include the preamble for GPL2 in debian/copyright. Otherwise it looks good. [06:23] Hmm, I tried to follow the example in the new maintainer's guide as closely as I could: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html#s-copyright - Is this a case where the documentation needs to be updated? [06:24] hmmm gtetrinet is now in edgy-proposed but not for i386 === iks [n=iks@mna75-9-82-243-59-107.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] palski: it hasn't built yet. [https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/292817 ] [06:30] as noted in the builds status box on [https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtetrinet/0.7.10-1ubuntu0.1 ] [06:31] (left side) [06:31] ok, thanks [06:32] Someone please kill me :-( [06:32] ScottK: it's preferable (as I noted above) to include it. It wouldn't be strictly rejectable by omitting it. === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] bddebian: 12:33 [freenode] -!- This command is for network staff only [06:33] OK. Thanks. I'll add it when I update my packages. === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] Is the license summary an issue just for GPL or for other licenses too (e.g. Perl Artistic license)? [06:35] crimsun: I meant that literally :) [06:35] it's not an issue; it's just viewed as good citizenship [06:35] OK. Thanks. [06:35] bddebian: your daughters wouldn't appreciate that [06:36] Neither would we. [06:37] bddebian: ^^^^ [06:38] we can't have 1/4 of our trinity running off [06:38] 1/3, even [06:39] ScottK: shall I wait on 4071, then? [06:40]