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| spasticteapot | Anyone here? | 05:20 |
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| spasticteapot | Earth to Space Station Alpha. Earth to Space Station Alpha. Asking for report. | 05:25 |
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| [miles] | morning guys | 10:16 |
| [miles] | ok, I have a problem with Ubuntu Server 6.06LTS ... postfix and cyrus-sasl | 10:16 |
| [miles] | due to postfix being jailed, I have to place the sasl socket in: | 10:17 |
| fabbione | [miles] : there is an how to that explains that | 10:17 |
| [miles] | /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/ | 10:17 |
| [miles] | /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/ | 10:17 |
| [miles] | hi fabbione | 10:17 |
| [miles] | well, I've got it running | 10:17 |
| [miles] | thats not the problem.. | 10:17 |
| fabbione | check in /usr/share/doc/postfix and or /usr/share/doc/sasl2 something | 10:17 |
| [miles] | the problem is that init script | 10:17 |
| [miles] | I changed the /etc/defaults/saslauthd vars | 10:18 |
| [miles] | PIDFILE="/var/run/saslauthd/saslauthd.pid" | 10:18 |
| [miles] | PWDIR=/var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd | 10:18 |
| [miles] | to override the vars used in the init script | 10:18 |
| [miles] | however, the daemon refuses to start | 10:18 |
| [miles] | I see that it's using start-stop-daemon | 10:19 |
| [miles] | I've checked as much as I can check, but it refuses to start if I declare the pid in the alternative directory | 10:19 |
| fabbione | can the daemon write that in that dir? | 10:19 |
| [miles] | as my daemon starts (with the following in /etc/defaults/saslauthd) PARAMS="-O /etc/saslauthd.conf -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd" | 10:20 |
| [miles] | the pid is forced to that base dir | 10:20 |
| [miles] | so when running /etc/init.d/saslauthd stop, it's looking for the pid in the wrong place | 10:20 |
| [miles] | fabbione, yeah, the daemon works fine | 10:20 |
| fabbione | strace it | 10:20 |
| fabbione | check what's trying to open and where | 10:21 |
| [miles] | aye | 10:21 |
| [miles] | ok one sec | 10:21 |
| [miles] | ok.. right | 10:21 |
| [miles] | I set the /etc/defaults/saslauthd with the following two lines: | 10:21 |
| [miles] | PWDIR=/var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd | 10:21 |
| [miles] | PIDFILE="/var/run/saslauthd/saslauthd.pid" | 10:21 |
| [miles] | to override yeah | 10:22 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# /etc/init.d/saslauthd start | 10:22 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# ps aux|grep sasl | 10:22 |
| [miles] | root 4220 0.0 0.0 1508 128 pts/0 R+ 10:22 0:00 grep sasl | 10:22 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# | 10:22 |
| fabbione | i don't use that stuff.. i am jsut trying to show you a path to see what you are doing wrong | 10:22 |
| [miles] | it dont start | 10:22 |
| [miles] | but | 10:22 |
| [miles] | if I take those two out | 10:22 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# /etc/init.d/saslauthd start | 10:23 |
| [miles] | Starting SASL Authentication Daemon: saslauthd. | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# ps aux|grep sasl | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root 4227 0.1 0.1 6020 988 ? Ss 10:23 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -O /etc/saslauthd.conf -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a ldap | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root 4228 0.0 0.1 6020 588 ? S 10:23 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -O /etc/saslauthd.conf -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a ldap | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root 4229 0.0 0.1 6020 536 ? S 10:23 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -O /etc/saslauthd.conf -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a ldap | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root 4230 0.0 0.1 6020 536 ? S 10:23 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -O /etc/saslauthd.conf -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a ldap | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root 4231 0.0 0.1 6020 536 ? S 10:23 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -O /etc/saslauthd.conf -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a ldap | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root 4233 0.0 0.1 2880 800 pts/0 S+ 10:23 0:00 grep sasl | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# | 10:23 |
| [miles] | disco | 10:23 |
| [miles] | alive | 10:23 |
| [miles] | but as u can see, the socket is in /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# ls -l /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/saslauthd.pid | 10:23 |
| [miles] | -rw------- 1 root root 5 2007-01-15 10:23 /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/saslauthd.pid | 10:23 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# | 10:23 |
| [miles] | and the pid is there | 10:23 |
| [miles] | now | 10:24 |
| [miles] | I can't stop the daemon | 10:24 |
| [miles] | cos it looks in /var/run/saslauthd | 10:24 |
| [miles] | lol | 10:24 |
| [miles] | I'm buggered | 10:24 |
| [miles] | LOL | 10:24 |
| [miles] | I don't want to physically alter the init script, due to package breakage | 10:24 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# /etc/init.d/saslauthd stop | 10:25 |
| [miles] | Stopping SASL Authentication Daemon: (not running). | 10:25 |
| [miles] | root@spamwall:/etc# | 10:25 |
| [miles] | and of course, it says it's not running, cos it can't locate the pid | 10:25 |
| [miles] | :) | 10:25 |
| [miles] | great eh | 10:25 |
| fabbione | [miles] : if it's a bug in the init script, please file one in malone, It might be worth fixing it in dapper | 10:25 |
| fabbione | adding a patch to make that generic will help too | 10:26 |
| [miles] | fabbione, aye | 10:26 |
| [miles] | fabbione, I'm a little lost as to why it's not working... weird | 10:26 |
| [miles] | cos to my logic, and after looking at the bash | 10:26 |
| [miles] | it loads the /etc/defaults/saslauthd file just after hard setting the vars in the init script | 10:27 |
| [miles] | and I echoed the values, and exited... | 10:27 |
| [miles] | and it shows the correct values | 10:27 |
| [miles] | but the daemon just don't start | 10:27 |
| [miles] | fabbione, you a Ubuntu developer btw? | 10:29 |
| fabbione | yes i am | 10:30 |
| fabbione | [miles] : as i said.. it might be a bug in the script that needs to be addressed | 10:30 |
| fabbione | like generic path to pid | 10:30 |
| fabbione | file a bug in launchpad with everything you found | 10:30 |
| [miles] | fabbione, I've had a scout thru it | 10:30 |
| [miles] | fabbione, but don't see an error | 10:30 |
| [miles] | fabbione, I'll go again and check it tho | 10:30 |
| [miles] | fabbione, a question.. | 10:30 |
| [miles] | fabbione, on Ubuntu Server, the updates to problems and vuns' and timely? | 10:31 |
| [miles] | fabbione, this is my first time in a production enviroment with UBS LTS | 10:31 |
| fabbione | [miles] : updates for security are done regularlyt | 10:31 |
| fabbione | also for critical bugs | 10:31 |
| [miles] | fabbione, as good as the likes of RHEL and SLES | 10:31 |
| [miles] | ? | 10:31 |
| fabbione | timing is usual as fast as possible | 10:31 |
| fabbione | we are usually faster then them | 10:31 |
| [miles] | fabbione, my background is with SLES | 10:31 |
| fabbione | it really depends on the issue | 10:31 |
| [miles] | fabbione, but I'm pretty into UBS | 10:32 |
| [miles] | ok | 10:32 |
| fabbione | some security issues are classified | 10:32 |
| fabbione | and released by vendor at the same time | 10:32 |
| [miles] | I'll check the script now, be back in a min yeah | 10:32 |
| fabbione | so you don't see much of a diff there | 10:32 |
| fabbione | but when a security issue is public | 10:32 |
| fabbione | we are usually faster | 10:32 |
| fabbione | i need to get back to work | 10:32 |
| fabbione | please as i said .. file a bug | 10:32 |
| [miles] | fabbione, ok | 10:32 |
| [miles] | fabbione, thank you kindly for the help yeah | 10:33 |
| [miles] | fabbione, yeah, found the problem part | 10:59 |
| [miles] | but it's using some commands of Ubuntu/debian, that im not familar with | 10:59 |
| [miles] | but I know exactly where the problem lies now | 11:00 |
| [miles] | dir=`dpkg-statoverride --list $PWDIR` | 11:00 |
| [miles] | test -z "$dir" || createdir $dir | 11:00 |
| [miles] | those two lines | 11:00 |
| fabbione | [miles] : add it the bug report please and explain why | 11:01 |
| fabbione | the more you add the faster the fix can be done | 11:01 |
| [miles] | fabbione, yeah, I'm just trying to work out how to properly fix it | 11:02 |
| [miles] | I see there are missing parms' on the createdir $dir | 11:02 |
| [miles] | fabbione, dpkg-statoverride --list /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd | 11:06 |
| [miles] | fabbione, does that make much sense to you? | 11:06 |
| [miles] | fabbione, I can understand obviously checking if the dir exists, and if not, create it | 11:07 |
| [miles] | but using that? | 11:07 |
| [miles] | it always returns an empty string | 11:07 |
| [miles] | ok, I've written a fix | 11:15 |
| [miles] | test -d $PWDIR || createdir root sasl 710 $PWDIR | 11:15 |
| [miles] | now just gotta find where the fuck to submit it | 11:15 |
| [miles] | fabbione, where do I file my report? | 11:16 |
| [miles] | bollox the bug reporting is down lol | 11:18 |
| fabbione | launchpad.net | 11:20 |
| [miles] | yeah | 11:21 |
| [miles] | there now | 11:21 |
| [miles] | fabbione, just gonna try file one | 11:21 |
| [miles] | u think my fix is ok? | 11:21 |
| fabbione | i dunno.. as i said i don't use that piece of software | 11:22 |
| [miles] | ah ok | 11:22 |
| fabbione | somebody that knows about it, will look into it and check | 11:22 |
| [miles] | well, to me, it does exactly what the coder of the script ment it to do | 11:22 |
| fabbione | BUT if you don't file a bug, it will be lost here on IRC | 11:22 |
| [miles] | lol | 11:23 |
| [miles] | yeah | 11:23 |
| [miles] | im doing it | 11:23 |
| [miles] | fabbione, Bug #79371 | 11:34 |
| [miles] | that ok? | 11:34 |
| fabbione | checking... | 11:34 |
| [miles] | thank you | 11:35 |
| fabbione | looks ok... thanks | 11:35 |
| [miles] | np | 11:35 |
| [miles] | I tested my fix... works | 11:35 |
| [miles] | I spose I could add a couple of lines at the top just to check a sasl group exists | 11:36 |
| [miles] | fabbione, who sets the priorty on my report please? | 11:36 |
| fabbione | i will once i get it assigned to somebody | 11:36 |
| [miles] | ah ok | 11:36 |
| [miles] | fabbione, I'm happy I can contribute something, be it so little, back to the distro | 11:38 |
| fabbione | [miles] : thanks for the report.. | 11:39 |
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| [miles] | morning ivoks | 11:41 |
| ivoks | hi | 11:42 |
| ivoks | how are you? | 11:43 |
| [miles] | im good | 11:46 |
| [miles] | much better for smoking a ciggy and fixing the saslauthd init script :D | 11:46 |
| [miles] | anyone got knowledge of Kerberos | 11:51 |
| [miles] | never touched it, but I hear good of it | 11:52 |
| ivoks | same here | 11:52 |
| [miles] | ivoks, u ain't touched it no? | 11:53 |
| ivoks | nope | 11:53 |
| [miles] | I used ldap | 11:53 |
| [miles] | and it ties in nicely with that.. so I read | 11:53 |
| ivoks | well, that's not the same | 11:54 |
| [miles] | yeah, I know | 11:54 |
| [miles] | but for auth | 11:54 |
| [miles] | mmm is "universe/mail" in the support area of Ubuntu Server? | 11:56 |
| [miles] | I can't remember what repo's I changed | 11:56 |
| [miles] | mmm, ok no it's not | 11:57 |
| [miles] | :-| | 11:57 |
| [miles] | so MailScanner and amavisd-new are not in the default support list | 11:57 |
| [miles] | :-\\ | 11:57 |
| ivoks | if you find a bug, let us know | 12:01 |
| [miles] | ivoks, ? | 12:01 |
| ivoks | if it's security bug, i'm sure some one will work on it | 12:01 |
| [miles] | ivoks, no bug, .. it would just be good to see Ubuntu Server support one or the other | 12:02 |
| ivoks | it is... community supported | 12:02 |
| [miles] | but its they are part of universe | 12:02 |
| ivoks | just as debian or fedora, except we don't have that much man power in universe (+ some maintainers are lazy, like me) | 12:02 |
| [miles] | lol | 12:03 |
| [miles] | :) | 12:03 |
| ivoks | amavisd-new would be much better option for postfix | 12:03 |
| [miles] | aye | 12:03 |
| [miles] | but the configuration of it is a joke | 12:04 |
| [miles] | messy as hell | 12:04 |
| ivoks | amavis? | 12:04 |
| [miles] | aye | 12:04 |
| [miles] | I don't like it at all | 12:04 |
| fabbione | [miles] : there are some reasons why we don't include that stuff | 12:04 |
| [miles] | the configuration I mean | 12:04 |
| fabbione | we did discuss it extensively | 12:04 |
| fabbione | and decided not to for now | 12:05 |
| fabbione | let me find a referenve | 12:05 |
| [miles] | fabbione, ok... but u agree, they are critical elements more or less to a good mail server? | 12:05 |
| fabbione | critical no.. i don't agree | 12:05 |
| fabbione | i agree that they are nice to have | 12:05 |
| ivoks | not critical, but good stuff | 12:05 |
| ivoks | ok, redundancy :) | 12:05 |
| [miles] | fabbione, ok, crtical maybe is an over statement | 12:06 |
| [miles] | but certainly they're of great use... | 12:06 |
| ivoks | i would rather see postgrey in main | 12:06 |
| ivoks | (+ i would like too see mail server for ubuntu.com using it :) | 12:06 |
| === [miles] would not run a greylist on his servers | ||
| [miles] | we'd have clients ringing up all the sodding time | 12:07 |
| [miles] | :==) | 12:07 |
| ivoks | mails only late for first mail | 12:07 |
| ivoks | not every time | 12:07 |
| fabbione | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixCandy | 12:07 |
| fabbione | [miles] : ^^ | 12:08 |
| [miles] | cheers fabbione | 12:09 |
| [miles] | fabbione, u in france also? | 12:09 |
| fabbione | nope.. | 12:09 |
| fabbione | i am in denmark | 12:09 |
| ivoks | heh, amavisd and postgrey do open ports, but only on loopback | 12:09 |
| [miles] | ah nice | 12:09 |
| [miles] | cold place I guess | 12:09 |
| fabbione | ivoks: they are still open ports | 12:09 |
| ivoks | fabbione: i agree | 12:10 |
| ivoks | hm, maybe we could work on amavisd to support socket (if it doesn't already) | 12:10 |
| [miles] | it does | 12:11 |
| [miles] | but not with postfix | 12:11 |
| [miles] | exim is the doggies | 12:11 |
| [miles] | but | 12:11 |
| [miles] | postfix rules the roost, and its pretty sweet | 12:12 |
| ivoks | not with postfix? | 12:12 |
| [miles] | I've done more MTA stuff with Exim... im pretty fresh at Postfix | 12:12 |
| [miles] | ivoks, nah, u can't use the socket | 12:12 |
| ivoks | but you can use procmail | 12:12 |
| ivoks | and with procmail... | 12:12 |
| ivoks | i think content-filter supports local | 12:13 |
| [miles] | # AMAVIS-CLIENT PROTOCOL INPUT SETTINGS (e.g. with sendmail milter) | 12:13 |
| [miles] | # (used with amavis helper clients like amavis-milter.c and amavis.c, | 12:13 |
| [miles] | # NOT needed for Postfix or Exim or dual-sendmail - keep it undefined. | 12:13 |
| [miles] | $unix_socketname = "$MYHOME/amavisd.sock"; # amavis helper protocol socket | 12:13 |
| [miles] | #$unix_socketname = undef; # disable listening on a unix socket | 12:13 |
| [miles] | # (default is undef, i.e. disabled) | 12:13 |
| ivoks | or pipe | 12:13 |
| [miles] | # (usual setting is $MYHOME/amavisd.sock) | 12:13 |
| ivoks | i'll take a closer look on this | 12:15 |
| [miles] | I prefer unix sockets for stuff like this | 12:15 |
| ivoks | maybe i could come up with something | 12:15 |
| [miles] | faster too | 12:15 |
| ivoks | ok, i see.. performance impact | 12:32 |
| fabbione | Out of Office AutoReply: [Bug 79371] Re: saslauthd init script does not allow movement of PID | 12:51 |
| fabbione | [miles] : disable that stuff from mails coming from Launchpad pretty please now. | 12:51 |
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| [miles] | fabbione, sorry? | 01:08 |
| fabbione | [miles] : isn't your name Martin, Jared ? | 01:09 |
| [miles] | no | 01:09 |
| [miles] | my name is Miles | 01:09 |
| [miles] | :) | 01:09 |
| fabbione | hmm | 01:10 |
| fabbione | sorry | 01:10 |
| fabbione | wrong person | 01:10 |
| [miles] | jeje | 01:10 |
| [miles] | np | 01:10 |
| [miles] | the guy who's got the bug is Martin | 01:10 |
| [miles] | it would appear | 01:10 |
| [miles] | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cyrus-sasl2/+bug/79371 | 01:10 |
| [miles] | fabbione, personally, I would not class this as "low" | 01:11 |
| [miles] | fabbione, not on server distro | 01:11 |
| fabbione | [miles] : release managers decision. | 01:11 |
| fabbione | anyway somebody is looking at it | 01:12 |
| fabbione | so don't worry | 01:12 |
| [miles] | ok | 01:12 |
| [miles] | it's a quick one to test and fix | 01:12 |
| fabbione | it doesn't indicate the priority with which it will be fixed but the impact | 01:12 |
| fabbione | not that many people use that setup | 01:12 |
| fabbione | so it has a low impact | 01:13 |
| fabbione | it will still take about 2 weeks to get it in dapper-updates | 01:13 |
| fabbione | the process for QA is long | 01:13 |
| [miles] | :-O | 01:13 |
| [miles] | wooo ok | 01:14 |
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| J_P | hi all | 04:38 |
| [miles] | yo J_P | 04:48 |
| J_P | [miles] : haha yes! | 04:57 |
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