[02:30] <Stev2> Hello, I have a question about starting many daemons in parallel. On my system, i start httpd,smbd,nmbd,httpd,cupsd,avahid,distccd and some others all at once at boot time. Occasionaly one or more of them fail to start, and in the logs then there are errors saying could not bind to 127.0.0.1:631 permission denied, or setgid(99) failed, permission denied. Anyone experience this?
[02:59] <Md> a randomly failing setgid is a bad, bad thing
[03:00] <Md> and the other problem looks related
[03:00] <Md> you need to understand why these daemons are being started with the wrong UID when they expect to be started by root
[03:04] <Stev2> I don't know how they could not be started by root, they are spawned from upstart, unless i am missing something.