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| Ubugtu | New bug: #79475 in launchpad "Milestone assignment for a spec shows a long list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79475 | 12:35 |
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| kNo` | 10 | 12:40 |
| kNo` | errr.... wrong chanel | 12:41 |
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| luisbg | any launchpad admins around? | 01:15 |
| LarstiQ | luisbg: what is your question? | 01:16 |
| LarstiQ | Perhaps an admin is not required and I can help, or they can later read what you want them for :) | 01:17 |
| luisbg | I want to delete a registered series | 01:18 |
| luisbg | it isn't a question but a favor | 01:18 |
| luisbg | since only admins have to permissions to do so | 01:18 |
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| luisbg | tsmithe, we should ask every now and then until we find an admin, cool? | 01:22 |
| tsmithe | yeah indeedy | 01:22 |
| LarstiQ | ah. | 01:26 |
| luisbg | LarstiQ, is that to us? | 01:26 |
| LarstiQ | tsmithe: did you file a support ticket? | 01:26 |
| tsmithe | LarstiQ, no - but i commented on the bug | 01:27 |
| tsmithe | or was that not enough | 01:27 |
| LarstiQ | bug 2141, right? | 01:28 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 2141 in launchpad "You can't remove series in products" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2141 | 01:28 |
| tsmithe | yeah | 01:28 |
| luisbg | it isn't really a bug since admins can delete it | 01:28 |
| luisbg | the bug is needing an admin to delete something yours :P | 01:28 |
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| tsmithe | yeaha | 01:29 |
| LarstiQ | luisbg: the point is, the bug is about the situation existing, the support ticket would be for your concrete request | 01:29 |
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| tsmithe | i'm very tired | 01:29 |
| tsmithe | luisbg, can you do it | 01:29 |
| tsmithe | blame me if you want | 01:29 |
| luisbg | where I have to do it? | 01:29 |
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| tsmithe | hang on | 01:29 |
| tsmithe | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+tickets | 01:31 |
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| luisbg | cool, doing so | 01:32 |
| tsmithe | linky me please when done | 01:32 |
| luisbg | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/3206 | 01:35 |
| luisbg | short and explicite =) | 01:36 |
| Exal|away | Hi, some translator admin around? | 01:38 |
| LarstiQ | Exal|away: probably not right now, what is your question? | 01:39 |
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| Exal|away | LarstiQ: I only want to belong to spanistransh lation team rigth now | 01:57 |
| Exal|away | LarstiQ: I have seen that many people is witing for this some back time | 01:58 |
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| Exal|away | *waiting | 02:01 |
| LarstiQ | Exal|away: that should be an ubuntu internal thing if I understand things correctly. Is the issue that the ubuntu spanish team isn't responsive? | 02:01 |
| Exal|away | yes | 02:03 |
| LarstiQ | Exal|away: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es/+members mentions you only subscribed today? | 02:08 |
| Exal|away | LarstiQ: exactly today | 02:09 |
| LarstiQ | Exal|away: I don't know how that team works, but since there are a lot of people subscribed but not approved, I think there is some step where you need to prove fitness | 02:10 |
| LarstiQ | so, what should help, is suggesting quality translations in launchpad, I guess | 02:10 |
| LarstiQ | Exal|away: or ask on http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-es-l10n | 02:11 |
| Exal|away | LarstiQ: yes, I have sent a mail | 02:11 |
| Exal|away | I see i.e.: CarlosGaona 2005-09-26 | 02:11 |
| LarstiQ | https://launchpad.net/~carlos | 02:12 |
| Exal|away | I will sent a mail to Carlos, thanks LarstiQ | 02:14 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79492 in launchpad-bazaar "Badge branches with import/mirror errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79492 | 02:15 |
| LarstiQ | Exal|away: np | 02:16 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #79493 in launchpad-bazaar "Highlight important branches" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79493 | 02:20 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79495 in launchpad-bazaar "Inactive branches should "fade away"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79495 | 02:25 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79496 in launchpad-bazaar "Show recent commits across the project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79496 | 02:30 |
| LarstiQ | I don't suppose there any admins around? | 03:32 |
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| Bhaskar | jinty: hello | 09:06 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: we are going to deploy school at the end of Jan 2007, but still problem in localization, how can we proceed?? | 09:07 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: if we can not get in success in localization, i think some sort of effect for who those involving in localization of schooltool | 09:07 |
| Bhaskar | jinty:so pls solve all the problems, together | 09:08 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: if we not success in localized schooltool, our project will dissolved | 09:08 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: if this project is dissolved, so bad message for schooltool localization in any country | 09:13 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, I think you'd better ask ignas in #schooltool what is the estimated time for him to be finished with that bug | 09:14 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, but I do think that, currently, any reasonable deployment of schooltool requires a high level of python/schooltool/zope3 knowledge | 09:16 |
| Bhaskar | thla: most of time ignas is in offline in #schooltool | 09:16 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, I think he just starts a bit later in the day | 09:17 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, I will ask him about it today, if you like? | 09:18 |
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| carlos | morning! | 09:19 |
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| Bhaskar | jinty: you ask with him today | 09:47 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, yes | 09:47 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: well | 09:47 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: i must localise schooltool within Jan | 09:48 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: otherwise office will decide to disolve this project, so i am in tension | 09:49 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: specially i am allocated for this project | 09:50 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, as I said, I will see what I can do. | 09:51 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: thanks | 09:52 |
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| cprov | stub: thanks for the db on mawson. | 12:05 |
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| stub | cprov: I haven't rebuilt it yet | 12:19 |
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| cprov | stub: err, my bad, it's still broken, then | 12:20 |
| stub | cprov: it is rebuilding now | 12:24 |
| cprov | stub: ok | 12:24 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #79535 in malone "Only parses first request in email requests" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79535 | 12:35 |
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| danilos | carlos: is bug 79118 something caused by your recent changes? | 12:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79118 in rosetta "Problems with "Need Review" and "Save & Continue"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79118 | 12:46 |
| carlos | danilos: I'm on a phone call with Steve. I will see once I'm done | 12:46 |
| danilos | carlos: ok, thanks | 12:47 |
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| mantiena | Hi all | 12:49 |
| mantiena | kiko, are you online ? | 12:50 |
| kiko | mantiena, yes. | 12:50 |
| static | gooooood morning launchpad | 12:52 |
| mantiena | kiko, several months ago you told me, that after few monts I will able to add new milestones/releases in Baltix distro (http://launchpad.net/baltix ), I just tested and still can't (or can't find a way :( ), maybe you can help me ? | 12:52 |
| mantiena | static, hi | 12:52 |
| kiko | mantiena, it still is not possible. | 12:53 |
| mantiena | :( | 12:53 |
| mantiena | kiko, even launchpad admins can't add new releases for Baltix ? | 12:54 |
| mantiena | I get an error message "you are not allowed" | 12:54 |
| mantiena | kiko, so, adding new release is not possible only for me, or not possible even for launchpad admins ? | 01:08 |
| kiko | mantiena, right, it is currently not possible to anyone. | 01:09 |
| mantiena | :( | 01:09 |
| kiko | mantiena, I suggest that for now you use a tag to group bugs arbitrarily | 01:10 |
| mantiena | kiko, ok, thanks, btw, maybe you know when there will be ability to add new release or at least new milestone (I need just one more milestone) ? | 01:12 |
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| kiko | BjornT, can you confirm bug 79353? | 01:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79353 in ubiquity "Installer crashed installing boot loader" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79353 | 01:30 |
| kiko | err doh | 01:30 |
| kiko | BjornT, can you confirm bug 79535. | 01:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79535 in malone "Only parses first request in email requests" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79535 | 01:30 |
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| carlos | danilos: could be a bug introduced by me, yes | 01:35 |
| carlos | danilos: let me finish with the changes SteveA suggested for TranslationReview and will take a close look to that bug | 01:35 |
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| danilos | carlos: sure, thanks | 01:42 |
| danilos | I need to drop by bank, pick up "mail" from my parents house, so I am announcing a... lunch break! :) | 01:42 |
| carlos | danilos: see you later! | 01:43 |
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| SteveA | bug 40173 | 03:27 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 40173 in malone "When filing a bug, the popup package search should show package descriptions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40173 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko) | 03:27 |
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| kiko | jordi, my diary now has RSS!!! | 04:04 |
| WebMaven | SteveA: Hi | 04:06 |
| Spads_ | kiko: do you have a hackergotchi? | 04:09 |
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| kiko | Spads, yeah, I do | 04:13 |
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| Spads | kiko: add yourself to planet ubuntu! | 04:13 |
| kiko | Spads, how does one do that? | 04:14 |
| Spads | kiko: there's a bzr tree for the configs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu | 04:19 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #79563 in launchpad "Product release finder script crashes if it can't parse the product version in the given URL." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79563 | 04:45 |
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| SteveA | WebMaven: hello | 05:05 |
| WebMaven | SteveA: have you figured out yet what kind of sponsorship you'll be doing? | 05:06 |
| SteveA | yes | 05:07 |
| SteveA | silver | 05:07 |
| SteveA | so, thanks for bringing the issue up here initially | 05:07 |
| WebMaven | Very cool. Have you provided the logos yet? | 05:07 |
| SteveA | no | 05:08 |
| SteveA | matthewrevell is doing all that stuff | 05:08 |
| SteveA | matthewrevell: do you know about getting sponsorship logos to the pycon pepole? | 05:08 |
| matthewrevell | SteveA: I was just about to ask if you had a contact | 05:09 |
| WebMaven | matthewrevell: specs here: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/HowToSponsor | 05:09 |
| matthewrevell | WebMaven: Cool, thanks. So, should logo art go to the pycon-sponsors email addr? | 05:10 |
| WebMaven | I *think* so. | 05:10 |
| matthewrevell | WebMaven: I'll give that a go. | 05:10 |
| WebMaven | if not, then surely it will be redirected appropriately. | 05:10 |
| matthewrevell | WebMaven: Nice one. I'm working on our bag inserts as we speak. | 05:12 |
| WebMaven | SteveA: I assume you talked to Steve Holden about this, right? | 05:12 |
| WebMaven | SteveA: I mean, that he returned your email inquiry? | 05:13 |
| SteveA | I had a voice call with Steve | 05:13 |
| WebMaven | Excellent. Will the logos go up on the site immediately, or after the check clears? | 05:14 |
| WebMaven | Also, keep in mind that you get to specify the link on the logo, if you want to create a special landing-page. | 05:15 |
| WebMaven | matthewrevell: don't forget to get the inserts printed and shipped, as well as a banner, should you want to have one hung. | 05:17 |
| WebMaven | but there is time for that still. | 05:17 |
| matthewrevell | WebMaven: Thanks for the list, that's useful. | 05:18 |
| matthewrevell | SteveA: You happy for me to get banner pricing from Christina? | 05:18 |
| SteveA | sure | 05:18 |
| WebMaven | OK, you guys have it well in hand, so I'll go away now. | 05:23 |
| WebMaven | SteveA: BTW, I've been checking in fixes for ZAlchemy. Soon I'll be checking in demos as well. | 05:25 |
| WebMaven | SteveA: Do you think you guys will have a release before PyCon? | 05:26 |
| SteveA | no | 05:27 |
| WebMaven | SteveA: OK. I was wondering if an impromptu sprint could be organized. But Oh well. | 05:33 |
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| Snoid_07 | hi there! | 05:50 |
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| Snoid_07 | anyone from Spanish trasnslation group? | 05:51 |
| Snoid_07 | or Spanish (Spain) | 05:51 |
| Snoid_07 | I don't know the difference between both groups. | 05:52 |
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| kiko | Snoid_07, what's up? | 05:53 |
| Snoid_07 | i'm trying to figure out which group of translation is the one used by american-spanish users | 05:54 |
| Snoid_07 | there's a group called Spanish (Spain) and another called Spanish | 05:55 |
| Snoid_07 | Are the translations the same for both? | 05:55 |
| kiko | carlos, ping? | 05:57 |
| kiko | or danilos | 05:57 |
| carlos | kiko: pong | 05:57 |
| Snoid_07 | i mean, some applications have both groups, not all | 05:57 |
| kiko | carlos, ^^^ | 05:57 |
| jordi | kiko: I'll subscribe as soon as I get home, mate! | 05:57 |
| carlos | Snoid_07: usually, it's just 'Spanish' | 05:57 |
| kiko | heh | 05:57 |
| Snoid_07 | yeah, but... in the case... | 05:57 |
| heno | kiko: got your mail earlier, thanks. I replied as well. | 05:57 |
| danilos | Snoid_07: it should be only a single Spanish translation; where there are two, it's usually something locale-based (eg. Gnome Weather applets have "default location", so there is a single translation for every country where Spanish is used in) | 05:58 |
| carlos | Snoid_07: for Spanish, we try to use a common set of words that can be used for all countries that speak Spanish | 05:58 |
| kiko | thanks heno | 05:58 |
| heno | kiko, SteveA: would anyone object if I used Malone to do this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ForumProject/TestTrackingInMalone ? | 05:58 |
| heno | It's a bit unorthodox ... | 05:58 |
| heno | not quite bugtracking | 05:58 |
| Snoid_07 | thanks carlos. | 05:59 |
| carlos | Snoid_07: np | 05:59 |
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| kiko | heno, hmmm. | 06:00 |
| Snoid_07 | is there a fast mode to translate a present aplication? (talking about Ubuntu). A set of langfiles or something. And if so, where are they located? | 06:01 |
| Snoid_07 | maybe a little offtopic, i know | 06:02 |
| kiko | Snoid_07, what's a "fast mode", and which application? | 06:03 |
| Snoid_07 | Gnome-panel2.0 | 06:04 |
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| Snoid_07 | fats mode = where are the langfiles to edit them | 06:04 |
| Snoid_07 | *fast | 06:04 |
| Snoid_07 | fast way, i meant | 06:06 |
| kiko | Snoid_07, you can download the files and translate them offline | 06:06 |
| kiko | if that's what you are asking | 06:07 |
| Snoid_07 | yeah! it can be done | 06:07 |
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| heno | kiko: was that 'hmm' as in you'd block my account for spamming? ;) or just slightly odd | 06:27 |
| kiko | heno, I found it interesting, but I need to think about it | 06:27 |
| heno | kiko: ok, cool. no rush. I'll speak with Bjorn in Oslo as well | 06:28 |
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| popey | kiko: any luck with the "I am still getting two mails for every one I should get" from the support ticket system in launchpad? | 06:37 |
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| kiko | popey, flacoste_lunch is back from vacation and is going to look into it | 06:38 |
| popey | thanks | 06:38 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79593 in launchpad "Do not hardcode the DistributionMirrorTestHTTPServer port on tests" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79593 | 06:45 |
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| flacoste | popey: is there a bug filed about that email issue in the support tracker? | 07:17 |
| kiko | flacoste, I thought it was known and filed, but perhaps not | 07:28 |
| flacoste | popey: would it it but bug 79072 | 07:28 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79072 in launchpad-support-tracker "Mail from answers are all the same" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79072 | 07:28 |
| flacoste | kiko: ^^^ ? | 07:28 |
| kiko | lemmy see | 07:28 |
| kiko | flacoste, well,. I think popey is saying that: | 07:30 |
| kiko | a) he is a member of a team | 07:31 |
| kiko | b) he is subscribed to a request | 07:31 |
| kiko | c) the team is subscribed to a request | 07:31 |
| kiko | he gets emailed twice | 07:31 |
| flacoste | hmm, that's possible | 07:31 |
| kiko | flacoste, there is code in Malone that does this collapsing already btw | 07:31 |
| flacoste | but does the team has an email address? | 07:32 |
| flacoste | if it does, this isn't a bug, otherwise it is | 07:32 |
| matsubara | flacoste: I can confirm what kiko described above. I just got 2 emails from a ticket I just subscribed to. | 07:33 |
| matsubara | flacoste: and the team doesn't have an email address | 07:33 |
| flacoste | matsubara: do you know if there is a bug filed about that? | 07:33 |
| matsubara | flacoste: don't think so. let me look for it | 07:34 |
| matsubara | flacoste: couldn't find; I'll file a new one. | 07:38 |
| flacoste | matsubara: thanks, assign it to me and make it Critical | 07:38 |
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| BjornT | flacoste: fwiw, i've also noticed duplicate mails from the support tracker. it's from tickets for products where Launchpad QA are support contacts, but i'm not subscribed to the tickets. for example #3206 | 07:45 |
| flacoste | BjornT: you received duplicate emails? | 07:46 |
| flacoste | BjornT: to which addresses? | 07:47 |
| BjornT | flacoste: yeah. to my preferred email address, bjorn.tillenius _a_ gmail.com | 07:48 |
| BjornT | flacoste: it doesn't happen for every notification, though, only a few. | 07:49 |
| flacoste | weird | 07:50 |
| flacoste | i'll report another bug about that | 07:50 |
| BjornT | yeah. i took a look at it last week, but i couldn't reproduce it locally. | 07:54 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79615 in launchpad-support-tracker "Launchpad sends 2 emails when person is direct subscribed to a request and is also a member of a team subscribed to the request" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79615 | 07:55 |
| flacoste | matsubara: since you are also a member of Launchpad QA, can you confirm this behaviour for ticket #3206 ? | 07:58 |
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| mpt | Goooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 08:00 |
| kiko | hello mpt | 08:01 |
| kiko | mpt, what's your /practical/ comment on bug 44041? | 08:01 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 44041 in malone "Only the leftmost section of the yellow "Affects/Status/Severity/Assigned To" status bar is clickable" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44041 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) | 08:01 |
| kiko | only practical comments are allowed -- no cynical or blue-skies | 08:01 |
| kiko | mpt, and/or bug 1095 too :-) | 08:01 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1095 in malone "Unnecessarily difficult to find how to change status or reassign a bug" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095 | 08:01 |
| matsubara | flacoste: I do have duplicate emails and they date back from before I subscribed to the request. | 08:02 |
| matsubara | flacoste: now I'm confused. I don't know if the bug I just reported is the real cause or something else. | 08:02 |
| mpt | kiko, for 44041 I'd reject it, because clicking on the assignee name should go to that assignee's bugs | 08:02 |
| mpt | kiko, for 44041 I'd reject it, because I think clicking on the assignee name going to that assignee's bugs is appropriate behavior | 08:02 |
| mpt | gah | 08:03 |
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| BjornT | flacoste: btw, is should add that i mean really duplicated messages. meaning that even the Message-Id is the same. looking at a code it looks like something is happening after simple_sendmail() is called. (since afaics, a new message-id is generated for each address?) | 08:04 |
| kiko | mpt, should we have a twisty or something that graphically indicates the expansion too, then? | 08:04 |
| mpt | kiko, for 1095, I don't think there is a practical solution without substantial changes to the bug page, though the situation should improve a bit when the expand/collapse widgets are restored. | 08:04 |
| BjornT | flacoste: so it could be that the issue is with how the mail sending is integrated into the transaction system. | 08:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79617 in launchpad-support-tracker "Sometime duplicate notifications are sent to team members" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79617 | 08:05 |
| kiko | mpt, are we restoring them? yes! | 08:07 |
| mpt | kiko, see the spec :-) | 08:07 |
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| popey | kiko: flacoste no, its not that I am in a team that gets the mails | 08:32 |
| popey | I am subscribed to the answers as an individual | 08:33 |
| flacoste | popey: do you receive duplicate notifications for all of them or only some? | 08:33 |
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| Gwaihir | sorry guys... | 08:46 |
| Gwaihir | does Rosetta handle Universe packages for translations? | 08:46 |
| mpt | Gwaihir, no | 08:46 |
| kiko | it does not, Gwaihir | 08:46 |
| Gwaihir | ah ok... I was talking in MOTU but they say it does | 08:47 |
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| LarstiQ | hmm | 09:16 |
| LarstiQ | perhaps someone in here has access to escudero and can help me out? | 09:16 |
| kiko | hmmm | 09:17 |
| kiko | ddaa? | 09:17 |
| ddaa | Yay | 09:17 |
| ddaa | I have some superveal powers on escudera | 09:17 |
| ddaa | s/escudera/escudero/ | 09:17 |
| LarstiQ | ddaa: including what becomes http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/src/ ? | 09:18 |
| ddaa | hu, no, not that | 09:18 |
| LarstiQ | feh. | 09:19 |
| ddaa | prolly poolie, lifeless, and maybe j-a-meinel have access there | 09:19 |
| LarstiQ | they do, but aren't very responsive atm. | 09:19 |
| ddaa | otherwise we can bug a sysadmin for you | 09:19 |
| ddaa | if it's like really urgent OMG | 09:20 |
| LarstiQ | no, it's not OMG urgent. | 09:20 |
| LarstiQ | it's 0.14rc1-announcement-delaying urgent | 09:20 |
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| ddaa | *shrug* | 09:20 |
| LarstiQ | I'll just go ahead opening up bzr.dev first then. | 09:21 |
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| Odd_Bloke | Hi guys, the FAQ seems to suggest that Lauchpad will host Bazaar branches which can be committed to. We currently have a mirror of our own branch set up on Launchpad but would like to make the full transfer. Is this possible? | 09:31 |
| thumper | ddaa: can you talk Odd_Bloke through this? | 09:32 |
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| kiko | it will not be a happy story | 09:33 |
| thumper | Odd_Bloke: this is a topic that has been in discussion for some time, and the conclusion that we had got to at this stage is that you cannot convert a branch | 09:33 |
| ddaa | hu... | 09:33 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: short answer you can | 09:34 |
| thumper | you can however push to a new branch | 09:34 |
| ddaa | you cannot | 09:34 |
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| Odd_Bloke | Pushing to a new branch would retain the revision history, no? | 09:34 |
| thumper | yes | 09:34 |
| thumper | it effectively makes an entire new repository on the server | 09:35 |
| ddaa | The recommended way is that you mark the existing branch as "Abandoned", add "-deleted" to its name, and forget about it. Then push the branch to sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net | 09:35 |
| thumper | ddaa: see it is asked for :) | 09:35 |
| ddaa | I damn well know this feature is asked for. | 09:35 |
| thumper | ddaa: I know, it was a friendly gib | 09:35 |
| ddaa | and I think I documented the issue we need to fix before implementing it | 09:36 |
| LarstiQ | thumper: while technically correct, did you really mean repository? | 09:36 |
| ddaa | LarstiQ: repository as in .bzr/repository | 09:36 |
| ddaa | not as in bzr init-repository | 09:36 |
| Odd_Bloke | OK, so forget the existing branch and then 'bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net'? | 09:36 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: right | 09:36 |
| LarstiQ | ddaa: that is why I say, technically correct. | 09:36 |
| LarstiQ | ddaa: there is still confusion about branches/repositories/workingtrees | 09:37 |
| Odd_Bloke | And then to pull it out again it's just 'bzr pull sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net'? | 09:37 |
| thumper | LarstiQ: I'm obviously still confused about that then | 09:37 |
| kiko | LarstiQ, that is definitely true | 09:37 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: the first time you'll need to compose the sftp url by hand. It's moderately tricky. There is currently a patch deployed on edge.launchpad.net that gives instruction to other users on how to commit to this branch, including the full sftp url. | 09:37 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: to pull out you have two options | 09:37 |
| ddaa | either http://bazaar.launchpad.net for public read-only | 09:38 |
| ddaa | or sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net for restricted read-write | 09:38 |
| ddaa | only members of the team owning the branch can use the sftp url | 09:38 |
| ddaa | though it's recommended to "bzr checkout" from sftp instead of "bzr pull" | 09:38 |
| thumper | ddaa: why? | 09:39 |
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| ddaa | see http://blogs.gnome.org/view/jamesh/2006/08/17/1 | 09:39 |
| Odd_Bloke | This may be a stupid question, but how does the Launchpad server know what to relate the pushed branch to? | 09:39 |
| thumper | k | 09:39 |
| ddaa | thumper: because checkout is the right way to work on multi-committer branches. | 09:39 |
| LarstiQ | ddaa: hmkay | 09:39 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: what do you mean by "what"? | 09:39 |
| thumper | ddaa: but pull is fine if it is just a private branch | 09:40 |
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| Odd_Bloke | ddaa: Hold on, I'll try doing this first and then if I have problems I'll ask. :p | 09:40 |
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| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: the launchpad product is determined by the sftp URL | 09:40 |
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| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: the launchpad owner is determined by the sftp URL | 09:41 |
| ddaa | the user logging in is determined by the sftp handshake (ssh login and ssh key) | 09:41 |
| ddaa | thumper: yes, but Odd_Bloke is interested in making a multi-committer branch :) | 09:42 |
| thumper | fair enough | 09:43 |
| ddaa | it also has nicer defaults, because push does not default to the parent | 09:44 |
| ddaa | the common use case with pull-push is "pull from somebody else, push to my public place" | 09:45 |
| ddaa | here, we have "push and pull from the same place" | 09:45 |
| ddaa | also, if it is a private branch, you do not need to pull, since you just push new data. | 09:45 |
| Odd_Bloke | I'm getting "Branches must be inside a person or team directory." errors... | 09:46 |
| ddaa | ... | 09:46 |
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| LarstiQ | Odd_Bloke: what are you using as url to push to? | 09:46 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: the sftp URL needs to conform to the syntax described there: https://code.launchpad.net/ | 09:47 |
| ddaa | or there: http://ddaa.net/blog/launchpad/bzr-hosting | 09:47 |
| ddaa | if you give me more details (your launchpad account name, the product, the team, the branch name) I can tell you the exact URL to use. | 09:48 |
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| Odd_Bloke | ddaa: Thanks, that seems to now be working. | 09:50 |
| ddaa | what's the url of the branch page? | 09:50 |
| Odd_Bloke | https://code.launchpad.net/~gryle-devel/+branch/gryle/trunk | 09:51 |
| Odd_Bloke | Just got the confirmation from bzr. | 09:52 |
| Odd_Bloke | And the timestamp of the error on the page is before the push had completed. | 09:53 |
| ddaa | Odd_Bloke: yeah, known bug | 09:53 |
| ddaa | the error should disappear in 10 mins | 09:53 |
| ddaa | ideally, we would track sftp sessions to avoid this race | 09:53 |
| Odd_Bloke | Just doing a checkout into a different directory as a test. | 09:54 |
| bdmurray | I'm having an issue pushing a branch to launchpad, is this the right place to look for assistance? | 09:55 |
| ddaa | duh! | 09:55 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: absolutely | 09:55 |
| ddaa | Looks like this FAQ entry suddently increased my popularity by a tenfold :) | 09:55 |
| bdmurray | The error is: bzr: ERROR: Parent directory of sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper/bughelper.dev does not exist. | 09:55 |
| ddaa | mh | 09:56 |
| Odd_Bloke | ddaa: That's worked, thanks again. | 09:56 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: I thought this bug was fixed. Try adding the "--create-prefix" option to bzr push. | 09:57 |
| bdmurray | ddaa: yes, that fixed it | 09:58 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: by the way, what was the full command you entered to get this error? | 09:58 |
| bdmurray | bzr push sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper/bughelper.dev | 09:58 |
| ddaa | looks good | 09:58 |
| ddaa | weird, I cannot see the branch there https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/+branches | 09:59 |
| bdmurray | hmm, looking at the output again it says 0 revisions pushed | 09:59 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #79637 in malone "Code that constructs the nomination +editstatus URL wrongly assumes ILaunchBag.bugtask will not return None." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79637 | 10:01 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: it looks like you are acting confused | 10:01 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: check that the current directory in your shell is indeed within the branch you intend to upload ("bzr info", or "bzr log | less") | 10:02 |
| ddaa | and paste the last command you ran with its full output to some pastebin | 10:02 |
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| ddaa | this feature works very reliably, but it's a bit confusing to use at first. | 10:03 |
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| bdmurray | ddaa: I believe I see the issue. The publish to branch is different than the push url. How would I change the publish to branch? | 10:04 |
| ddaa | The branch you have was created with "bzr checkout", right? | 10:05 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: it would be easier for me to help if you showed me the output of bzr info and the command you ran and its output. | 10:06 |
| bdmurray | it looks like I initially used "bzr branch" and not "bzr checkout", if I recall correctly I received an error with bzr checkout | 10:06 |
| ddaa | because now I can only speculate | 10:07 |
| bdmurray | bzr info and my failing push command correct? | 10:08 |
| ddaa | yes please | 10:08 |
| flacoste | matsubara, kiko: can one of you run a query for me on staging? | 10:09 |
| kiko | yes | 10:09 |
| bdmurray | http://pastebin.com/860792 | 10:09 |
| flacoste | kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filelmFvE7.html | 10:11 |
| flacoste | kiko: just tell me how long this takes to execute | 10:11 |
| flacoste | i'm trying what I think is a trivial fix to the +needsattention timeout | 10:12 |
| kiko | it's pretty fast flacoste | 10:12 |
| flacoste | great, the timeout was caused by a typo then! | 10:13 |
| kiko | what typo? | 10:13 |
| kiko | https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileocuOlP.html | 10:13 |
| kiko | it could be table locks | 10:13 |
| flacoste | in the last subselect, the outer select was referenced by mistake | 10:13 |
| kiko | or different data causing different behaviours | 10:13 |
| kiko | etc | 10:13 |
| flacoste | Ticket.id instead of t.id | 10:13 |
| flacoste | really silly | 10:14 |
| flacoste | kiko: compare with https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filezkusuL.html | 10:14 |
| kiko | flacoste, that is even faster | 10:15 |
| flacoste | really? | 10:15 |
| flacoste | that doesn't make sense!?! | 10:16 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: checking | 10:16 |
| ddaa | this is weird | 10:16 |
| bdmurray | thanks | 10:16 |
| ddaa | So... you previously did "bzr push sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper.main/doc.update", which failed because there is no product "bughelper.main" in launchpad. | 10:18 |
| flacoste | kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filemlD5RP.html is the actual query timeing out, can you check what is its performance on staging? | 10:18 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: try "bzr info sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper/bughelper.dev", and paste the command and output, please. | 10:20 |
| kiko | flacoste, /that/ query takes a long time. | 10:20 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: it looks like this URL is not interpreted correctly, and that there's already a branch there. | 10:20 |
| salgado | mpt, ping! | 10:21 |
| flacoste | kiko, the the difference are the prejoins, could this be the problem? | 10:21 |
| kiko | sure it could | 10:21 |
| kiko | definitely | 10:21 |
| kiko | in particular if there are missing indexes | 10:21 |
| mpt | salgado, nice ping you've got there :-) | 10:21 |
| salgado | heh | 10:22 |
| flacoste | kiko, they should have indices | 10:22 |
| salgado | mpt, I'm fixing bug 70518 and I was wondering if you could give me some help on the text that will go in the email... | 10:22 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 70518 in launchpad "Notify team members when their membership is going to expire" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70518 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado) | 10:22 |
| flacoste | kiko, just to make sure the typo isn't the culprit, can you try https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileUZdMcW.html | 10:23 |
| bdmurray | ddaa: http://pastebin.com/860802 - which URL is not interprested correctly? | 10:23 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: you need to install paramiko | 10:23 |
| ddaa | sftp won't work without it | 10:23 |
| kiko | flacoste, https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/file1bO1Id.html | 10:23 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: and you should also delete /home/theman/ubuntu/bughelper.main/sftp:/brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper/bughelper.dev/ | 10:24 |
| ddaa | actually | 10:24 |
| flacoste | kiko: is that the query with or without the typo? | 10:24 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: you should delete /home/theman/ubuntu/bughelper.main/sftp: | 10:24 |
| flacoste | and how do you get the query plan and the runtime? | 10:24 |
| kiko | flacoste, that's the last query you gave me | 10:25 |
| flacoste | ah, explain analyze | 10:25 |
| kiko | flacoste, right. | 10:25 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: what version of bzr are you using? If it's the latest (0.13), please bug the #bzr folks about this failure mode on my behalf. | 10:25 |
| bdmurray | ddaa: I believe I am running that latest version for Dapper - 0.8.2 | 10:27 |
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| mpt | salgado, is there a standard procedure for applying for membership renewal? | 10:27 |
| ddaa | oh... | 10:27 |
| bdmurray | Is it still worth reporting? | 10:27 |
| ddaa | nope | 10:27 |
| ddaa | 0.8.2 is old history, let me dig the apt.sources line you shoud add to get a recent bzr | 10:28 |
| salgado | mpt, no | 10:28 |
| ddaa | the bzr folks are trying to get a UVF exception to update bzr on Dapper | 10:28 |
| bdmurray | UVF? | 10:28 |
| ddaa | Upstream Version Freeze | 10:28 |
| LarstiQ | ddaa: 0.14rc1 just got uploaded | 10:29 |
| kiko | congrats LarstiQ | 10:29 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: basically, so the default bzr version on dapper will be 0.13 or something more usable than 0.8 | 10:29 |
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| bdmurray | ddaa: Does the information about paramiko belong here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BzrContributorHowto ? | 10:29 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: debhttp://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/debs/./ | 10:30 |
| ddaa | details are found there http://bazaar-vcs.org/DistroDownloads | 10:30 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: I do not know, but it sounds like a good place to put a warning. | 10:31 |
| mpt | salgado, would it be fairly easy to print the list of team administrators in this message? | 10:31 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: I am not an Ubuntu person, I just do Launchpad and Bazaar. | 10:31 |
| bdmurray | ddaa: okay, I'll add it in just in case. Thanks for all of your help. | 10:31 |
| salgado | mpt, yes, that's trivial | 10:31 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: you're more than welcome, don't forget to tell your friend how nice and helpful the Launchpad folks are :) | 10:32 |
| ddaa | s/friend/friends/ | 10:32 |
| bdmurray | ddaa: will do. ;) | 10:32 |
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| flacoste | kiko: what about that one https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileWQsrFa.html ? | 10:34 |
| mpt | salgado, are you intending to implement a separate "Your membership has expired" message for when it actually does expire? | 10:34 |
| kiko | flacoste, still slow. | 10:34 |
| salgado | mpt, that is already implemented. I'll paste it so you can see what it looks like | 10:35 |
| mpt | cool | 10:35 |
| flacoste | kiko: and that one: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filefVrPtI.html | 10:38 |
| salgado | mpt, https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filexq53uc.html | 10:38 |
| mpt | salgado, that message won't work for expiry | 10:38 |
| mpt | because there will be no reviewer_name | 10:38 |
| mpt | right? | 10:38 |
| salgado | mpt, the reviewer in that case is the Team Membership Janitor, a celebrity | 10:38 |
| mpt | ugh | 10:39 |
| mpt | "The status of your membership in the team Fighters Against Software Anthropomorphism was changed by Team Membership Janitor from Approved to Expired." | 10:40 |
| mpt | anyway | 10:40 |
| mpt | ("And don't argue, because it was a celebrity who changed it.") | 10:42 |
| mpt | salgado, I commented on #70518 with a suggested template | 10:42 |
| salgado | hah. I'll hardcode that as the comment in this case | 10:42 |
| salgado | thanks mpt! | 10:43 |
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| mpt | and while I was writing it, I realized that we should have standard boilerplate: "(This is an automated message. Replies to this address will not be read.)" | 10:43 |
| salgado | yeah, that'd be nice indeed | 10:44 |
| salgado | mpt, all other membership notification emails have a 'Launchpad:' prefix in their subjects. do you have something against it? | 10:46 |
| mpt | no, I just didn't know that | 10:49 |
| salgado | I guess it's okay for me to add it to the subject you suggested, then? | 10:50 |
| mpt | sure | 10:50 |
| bdmurray | ddaa: do you know whom I would talk to about the bzr website? | 10:56 |
| salgado | mpt, one last question... when you write "<{url of foo}>", does it mean that the "<>" should be included in the final version? | 10:57 |
| ddaa | bdmurray: matthewrevell, poolie, j-a-meinel. The #bzr channel is a more appropriate forum for this. | 10:57 |
| popey | 19:34 < flacoste> popey: do you receive duplicate notifications for all of them or only some? | 10:57 |
| popey | some | 10:57 |
| flacoste | popey: ok, thanks | 10:58 |
| flacoste | i'll look into this | 10:58 |
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| kiko | flacoste, for the first one: Total runtime: 12230.706 ms | 11:09 |
| flacoste | kiko, interesting, that one has the sourcepackage prejoin removed | 11:09 |
| kiko | for the second one: 21090.739 | 11:09 |
| flacoste | first one had person prejoin removed, second one had sourcepackage prejoin removed | 11:11 |
| flacoste | can you tell me how long it takes without any prejoin: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileyYF754.html | 11:12 |
| flacoste | kiko: ^^^ | 11:12 |
| kiko | Total runtime: 2636.834 ms | 11:13 |
| kiko | Hash Cond: ("outer".message = "inner".id) | 11:14 |
| kiko | -> Seq Scan on ticketmessage (cost=0.00..181.28 rows=10428 width=8) (actual time=0.003..15.678 rows=10405 loops=1) | 11:14 |
| kiko | flacoste, missing an index perhaps? | 11:14 |
| flacoste | probably, i'll ask stub to take a look into this | 11:14 |
| kiko | there's another seq scan on ticket | 11:15 |
| mpt | salgado, yes | 11:16 |
| mpt | salgado, also, the first "will expire" should be "is due to expire" | 11:16 |
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| ddaa | Good night folks. | 11:24 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #79647 in launchpad "Automated messages should have "do not reply" boilerplate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79647 | 11:26 |
| kiko | mpt, alternatively, ensure that the reply-to address hits somewhere where somebody will read it | 11:30 |
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