=== jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has left #launchpad ["Philosophise] === jml [n=jml@169.222.11.203] has joined #launchpad [12:35] New bug: #79475 in launchpad "Milestone assignment for a spec shows a long list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79475 === seiflotfy [n=seif@P5118.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #launchpad === seiflotfy [n=seif@P5118.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has left #launchpad [] === kNo` has finally been able to mirror s4ep9 and 19 [12:40] 10 [12:41] errr.... wrong chanel === kNo` ducks === belito [n=user@201.240.84.167] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.234] has joined #launchpad [01:15] any launchpad admins around? [01:16] luisbg: what is your question? [01:17] Perhaps an admin is not required and I can help, or they can later read what you want them for :) [01:18] I want to delete a registered series [01:18] it isn't a question but a favor [01:18] since only admins have to permissions to do so === Keybuk [n=scott@169.222.10.235] has joined #launchpad === tsmithe [n=bip@unaffiliated/tsmithe] has joined #launchpad === tsmithe is here to aid luisbg in scrounging [01:22] tsmithe, we should ask every now and then until we find an admin, cool? [01:22] yeah indeedy [01:26] ah. [01:26] LarstiQ, is that to us? [01:26] tsmithe: did you file a support ticket? [01:27] LarstiQ, no - but i commented on the bug [01:27] or was that not enough [01:28] bug 2141, right? [01:28] Malone bug 2141 in launchpad "You can't remove series in products" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2141 [01:28] yeah [01:28] it isn't really a bug since admins can delete it [01:28] the bug is needing an admin to delete something yours :P === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [01:29] yeaha [01:29] luisbg: the point is, the bug is about the situation existing, the support ticket would be for your concrete request === tsmithe goes off to file a support ticket [01:29] i'm very tired [01:29] luisbg, can you do it [01:29] blame me if you want [01:29] where I have to do it? === Exal|away [n=exal@189.149.97.69] has joined #launchpad [01:29] hang on [01:31] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+tickets === Exal|away [n=exal@189.149.97.69] has left #launchpad ["ERC] === Exal|away [n=exal@gnu/webmaster/Exal] has joined #launchpad [01:32] cool, doing so [01:32] linky me please when done [01:35] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/3206 [01:36] short and explicite =) [01:38] Hi, some translator admin around? [01:39] Exal|away: probably not right now, what is your question? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === joejaxx [i=joejaxx@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has joined #launchpad [01:57] LarstiQ: I only want to belong to spanistransh lation team rigth now [01:58] LarstiQ: I have seen that many people is witing for this some back time === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #launchpad [02:01] *waiting [02:01] Exal|away: that should be an ubuntu internal thing if I understand things correctly. Is the issue that the ubuntu spanish team isn't responsive? [02:03] yes [02:08] Exal|away: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es/+members mentions you only subscribed today? [02:09] LarstiQ: exactly today [02:10] Exal|away: I don't know how that team works, but since there are a lot of people subscribed but not approved, I think there is some step where you need to prove fitness [02:10] so, what should help, is suggesting quality translations in launchpad, I guess [02:11] Exal|away: or ask on http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-es-l10n [02:11] LarstiQ: yes, I have sent a mail [02:11] I see i.e.: CarlosGaona 2005-09-26 [02:12] https://launchpad.net/~carlos [02:14] I will sent a mail to Carlos, thanks LarstiQ [02:15] New bug: #79492 in launchpad-bazaar "Badge branches with import/mirror errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79492 [02:16] Exal|away: np === tsmithe [n=bip@unaffiliated/tsmithe] has left #launchpad ["Help] [02:20] New bug: #79493 in launchpad-bazaar "Highlight important branches" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79493 [02:25] New bug: #79495 in launchpad-bazaar "Inactive branches should "fade away"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79495 [02:30] New bug: #79496 in launchpad-bazaar "Show recent commits across the project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79496 [03:32] I don't suppose there any admins around? === jml [n=jml@169.222.11.203] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [n=scott@169.222.10.235] has joined #launchpad === jelmer [n=jelmer@a62-251-123-16.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.99.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@200-122-64-25.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@169.222.11.203] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [n=scott@169.222.10.235] has joined #launchpad === lifeless_ [n=robertc@169.222.10.207] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@169.222.11.203] has joined #launchpad === lifeless_ [n=robertc@169.222.10.207] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] === lifeless_ [n=robertc@169.222.10.207] has joined #launchpad === lifeless_ [n=robertc@169.222.10.207] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] === shawn___ [n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com] has joined #launchpad === sigurdga [n=sigurdga@252.80-202-221.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #launchpad [09:06] jinty: hello [09:07] jinty: we are going to deploy school at the end of Jan 2007, but still problem in localization, how can we proceed?? [09:07] jinty: if we can not get in success in localization, i think some sort of effect for who those involving in localization of schooltool [09:08] jinty:so pls solve all the problems, together [09:08] jinty: if we not success in localized schooltool, our project will dissolved [09:13] jinty: if this project is dissolved, so bad message for schooltool localization in any country [09:14] Bhaskar, I think you'd better ask ignas in #schooltool what is the estimated time for him to be finished with that bug [09:16] Bhaskar, but I do think that, currently, any reasonable deployment of schooltool requires a high level of python/schooltool/zope3 knowledge [09:16] thla: most of time ignas is in offline in #schooltool [09:17] Bhaskar, I think he just starts a bit later in the day [09:18] Bhaskar, I will ask him about it today, if you like? === carlos [n=carlos@154.Red-83-40-82.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [09:19] morning! === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [09:47] jinty: you ask with him today [09:47] Bhaskar, yes [09:47] jinty: well [09:48] jinty: i must localise schooltool within Jan [09:49] jinty: otherwise office will decide to disolve this project, so i am in tension [09:50] jinty: specially i am allocated for this project [09:51] Bhaskar, as I said, I will see what I can do. [09:52] jinty: thanks === matthewrevell [n=matthew@82-47-115-17.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === jelmer [n=jelmer@a62-251-123-16.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === koni [n=koni@unibz.it] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@224.177.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === doko [n=doko@i59F7277C.versanet.de] has joined #launchpad === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [12:05] stub: thanks for the db on mawson. === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:19] cprov: I haven't rebuilt it yet === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@201.11.214.142] has joined #launchpad [12:20] stub: err, my bad, it's still broken, then [12:24] cprov: it is rebuilding now [12:24] stub: ok === MaSa69 [n=MaSa69@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe1cfb00-100.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [12:35] New bug: #79535 in malone "Only parses first request in email requests" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79535 === poolie_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [12:46] carlos: is bug 79118 something caused by your recent changes? [12:46] Malone bug 79118 in rosetta "Problems with "Need Review" and "Save & Continue"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79118 [12:46] danilos: I'm on a phone call with Steve. I will see once I'm done [12:47] carlos: ok, thanks === mantiena [n=ubuntu@ctv-84-55-5-47.init.lt] has joined #launchpad [12:49] Hi all [12:50] kiko, are you online ? [12:50] mantiena, yes. [12:52] gooooood morning launchpad [12:52] kiko, several months ago you told me, that after few monts I will able to add new milestones/releases in Baltix distro (http://launchpad.net/baltix ), I just tested and still can't (or can't find a way :( ), maybe you can help me ? [12:52] static, hi [12:53] mantiena, it still is not possible. [12:53] :( [12:54] kiko, even launchpad admins can't add new releases for Baltix ? [12:54] I get an error message "you are not allowed" [01:08] kiko, so, adding new release is not possible only for me, or not possible even for launchpad admins ? [01:09] mantiena, right, it is currently not possible to anyone. [01:09] :( [01:10] mantiena, I suggest that for now you use a tag to group bugs arbitrarily [01:12] kiko, ok, thanks, btw, maybe you know when there will be ability to add new release or at least new milestone (I need just one more milestone) ? === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [01:30] BjornT, can you confirm bug 79353? [01:30] Malone bug 79353 in ubiquity "Installer crashed installing boot loader" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79353 [01:30] err doh [01:30] BjornT, can you confirm bug 79535. [01:30] Malone bug 79535 in malone "Only parses first request in email requests" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79535 === BjornT takes a look === jml [n=jml@169.222.11.203] has joined #launchpad [01:35] danilos: could be a bug introduced by me, yes [01:35] danilos: let me finish with the changes SteveA suggested for TranslationReview and will take a close look to that bug === jml [n=jml@169.222.11.203] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [01:42] carlos: sure, thanks [01:42] I need to drop by bank, pick up "mail" from my parents house, so I am announcing a... lunch break! :) [01:43] danilos: see you later! === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === jelmer [n=jelmer@a62-251-123-16.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@m010f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #launchpad === Spads_ [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [03:27] bug 40173 [03:27] Malone bug 40173 in malone "When filing a bug, the popup package search should show package descriptions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40173 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko) === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === j-a-meinel [n=jameinel@adsl-75-51-62-134.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [04:04] jordi, my diary now has RSS!!! [04:06] SteveA: Hi [04:09] kiko: do you have a hackergotchi? === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [04:13] Spads, yeah, I do === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.234] has joined #launchpad [04:13] kiko: add yourself to planet ubuntu! [04:14] Spads, how does one do that? [04:19] kiko: there's a bzr tree for the configs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [04:45] New bug: #79563 in launchpad "Product release finder script crashes if it can't parse the product version in the given URL." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79563 === Exal|away is now known as Exal === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [05:05] WebMaven: hello [05:06] SteveA: have you figured out yet what kind of sponsorship you'll be doing? [05:07] yes [05:07] silver [05:07] so, thanks for bringing the issue up here initially [05:07] Very cool. Have you provided the logos yet? [05:08] no [05:08] matthewrevell is doing all that stuff [05:08] matthewrevell: do you know about getting sponsorship logos to the pycon pepole? [05:09] SteveA: I was just about to ask if you had a contact [05:09] matthewrevell: specs here: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/HowToSponsor [05:10] WebMaven: Cool, thanks. So, should logo art go to the pycon-sponsors email addr? [05:10] I *think* so. [05:10] WebMaven: I'll give that a go. [05:10] if not, then surely it will be redirected appropriately. [05:12] WebMaven: Nice one. I'm working on our bag inserts as we speak. [05:12] SteveA: I assume you talked to Steve Holden about this, right? [05:13] SteveA: I mean, that he returned your email inquiry? [05:13] I had a voice call with Steve [05:14] Excellent. Will the logos go up on the site immediately, or after the check clears? [05:15] Also, keep in mind that you get to specify the link on the logo, if you want to create a special landing-page. [05:17] matthewrevell: don't forget to get the inserts printed and shipped, as well as a banner, should you want to have one hung. [05:17] but there is time for that still. [05:18] WebMaven: Thanks for the list, that's useful. [05:18] SteveA: You happy for me to get banner pricing from Christina? [05:18] sure [05:23] OK, you guys have it well in hand, so I'll go away now. [05:25] SteveA: BTW, I've been checking in fixes for ZAlchemy. Soon I'll be checking in demos as well. [05:26] SteveA: Do you think you guys will have a release before PyCon? [05:27] no [05:33] SteveA: OK. I was wondering if an impromptu sprint could be organized. But Oh well. === mmedland [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #launchpad === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad === Snoid_07 [n=kbza@180.Red-83-60-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [05:50] hi there! === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [05:51] anyone from Spanish trasnslation group? [05:51] or Spanish (Spain) [05:52] I don't know the difference between both groups. === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [05:53] Snoid_07, what's up? [05:54] i'm trying to figure out which group of translation is the one used by american-spanish users [05:55] there's a group called Spanish (Spain) and another called Spanish [05:55] Are the translations the same for both? [05:57] carlos, ping? [05:57] or danilos [05:57] kiko: pong [05:57] i mean, some applications have both groups, not all [05:57] carlos, ^^^ [05:57] kiko: I'll subscribe as soon as I get home, mate! [05:57] Snoid_07: usually, it's just 'Spanish' [05:57] heh [05:57] yeah, but... in the case... [05:57] kiko: got your mail earlier, thanks. I replied as well. [05:58] Snoid_07: it should be only a single Spanish translation; where there are two, it's usually something locale-based (eg. Gnome Weather applets have "default location", so there is a single translation for every country where Spanish is used in) [05:58] Snoid_07: for Spanish, we try to use a common set of words that can be used for all countries that speak Spanish [05:58] thanks heno [05:58] kiko, SteveA: would anyone object if I used Malone to do this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ForumProject/TestTrackingInMalone ? [05:58] It's a bit unorthodox ... [05:58] not quite bugtracking [05:59] thanks carlos. [05:59] Snoid_07: np === mmedland [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #launchpad [06:00] heno, hmmm. [06:01] is there a fast mode to translate a present aplication? (talking about Ubuntu). A set of langfiles or something. And if so, where are they located? [06:02] maybe a little offtopic, i know [06:03] Snoid_07, what's a "fast mode", and which application? [06:04] Gnome-panel2.0 === Exal is now known as Exal|away [06:04] fats mode = where are the langfiles to edit them [06:04] *fast [06:06] fast way, i meant [06:06] Snoid_07, you can download the files and translate them offline [06:07] if that's what you are asking [06:07] yeah! it can be done === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch [06:27] kiko: was that 'hmm' as in you'd block my account for spamming? ;) or just slightly odd [06:27] heno, I found it interesting, but I need to think about it [06:28] kiko: ok, cool. no rush. I'll speak with Bjorn in Oslo as well === Snoid_07 [n=kbza@180.Red-83-60-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #launchpad [] === lwd-sys64 [n=lwd-sys6@cpe-72-179-42-44.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [06:37] kiko: any luck with the "I am still getting two mails for every one I should get" from the support ticket system in launchpad? === kiko pokes flacoste_lunch [06:38] popey, flacoste_lunch is back from vacation and is going to look into it [06:38] thanks [06:45] New bug: #79593 in launchpad "Do not hardcode the DistributionMirrorTestHTTPServer port on tests" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79593 === jkakar [n=jkakar@d66-183-122-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === jkakar_ [n=jkakar@204-174-36-228.unknown-dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste [07:17] popey: is there a bug filed about that email issue in the support tracker? [07:28] flacoste, I thought it was known and filed, but perhaps not [07:28] popey: would it it but bug 79072 [07:28] Malone bug 79072 in launchpad-support-tracker "Mail from answers are all the same" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79072 [07:28] kiko: ^^^ ? [07:28] lemmy see [07:30] flacoste, well,. I think popey is saying that: [07:31] a) he is a member of a team [07:31] b) he is subscribed to a request [07:31] c) the team is subscribed to a request [07:31] he gets emailed twice [07:31] hmm, that's possible [07:31] flacoste, there is code in Malone that does this collapsing already btw [07:32] but does the team has an email address? [07:32] if it does, this isn't a bug, otherwise it is [07:33] flacoste: I can confirm what kiko described above. I just got 2 emails from a ticket I just subscribed to. [07:33] flacoste: and the team doesn't have an email address [07:33] matsubara: do you know if there is a bug filed about that? [07:34] flacoste: don't think so. let me look for it [07:38] flacoste: couldn't find; I'll file a new one. [07:38] matsubara: thanks, assign it to me and make it Critical === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-afk [07:45] flacoste: fwiw, i've also noticed duplicate mails from the support tracker. it's from tickets for products where Launchpad QA are support contacts, but i'm not subscribed to the tickets. for example #3206 [07:46] BjornT: you received duplicate emails? [07:47] BjornT: to which addresses? [07:48] flacoste: yeah. to my preferred email address, bjorn.tillenius _a_ gmail.com [07:49] flacoste: it doesn't happen for every notification, though, only a few. [07:50] weird [07:50] i'll report another bug about that [07:54] yeah. i took a look at it last week, but i couldn't reproduce it locally. [07:55] New bug: #79615 in launchpad-support-tracker "Launchpad sends 2 emails when person is direct subscribed to a request and is also a member of a team subscribed to the request" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79615 [07:58] matsubara: since you are also a member of Launchpad QA, can you confirm this behaviour for ticket #3206 ? === Ppjet6_ [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [08:00] Goooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [08:01] hello mpt [08:01] mpt, what's your /practical/ comment on bug 44041? [08:01] Malone bug 44041 in malone "Only the leftmost section of the yellow "Affects/Status/Severity/Assigned To" status bar is clickable" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44041 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) [08:01] only practical comments are allowed -- no cynical or blue-skies [08:01] mpt, and/or bug 1095 too :-) [08:01] Malone bug 1095 in malone "Unnecessarily difficult to find how to change status or reassign a bug" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095 [08:02] flacoste: I do have duplicate emails and they date back from before I subscribed to the request. [08:02] flacoste: now I'm confused. I don't know if the bug I just reported is the real cause or something else. [08:02] kiko, for 44041 I'd reject it, because clicking on the assignee name should go to that assignee's bugs [08:02] kiko, for 44041 I'd reject it, because I think clicking on the assignee name going to that assignee's bugs is appropriate behavior [08:03] gah === mpt growls at his Enter key [08:04] flacoste: btw, is should add that i mean really duplicated messages. meaning that even the Message-Id is the same. looking at a code it looks like something is happening after simple_sendmail() is called. (since afaics, a new message-id is generated for each address?) [08:04] mpt, should we have a twisty or something that graphically indicates the expansion too, then? [08:04] kiko, for 1095, I don't think there is a practical solution without substantial changes to the bug page, though the situation should improve a bit when the expand/collapse widgets are restored. [08:05] flacoste: so it could be that the issue is with how the mail sending is integrated into the transaction system. [08:05] New bug: #79617 in launchpad-support-tracker "Sometime duplicate notifications are sent to team members" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79617 [08:07] mpt, are we restoring them? yes! [08:07] kiko, see the spec :-) === salgado-afk is now known as salgado === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #launchpad === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [08:32] kiko: flacoste no, its not that I am in a team that gets the mails [08:33] I am subscribed to the answers as an individual [08:33] popey: do you receive duplicate notifications for all of them or only some? === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-112-90.25-151.libero.it] has joined #launchpad === Ppjet6_ [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [08:46] sorry guys... [08:46] does Rosetta handle Universe packages for translations? [08:46] Gwaihir, no [08:46] it does not, Gwaihir [08:47] ah ok... I was talking in MOTU but they say it does === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-18-132.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === mmedland [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [09:16] hmm [09:16] perhaps someone in here has access to escudero and can help me out? [09:17] hmmm [09:17] ddaa? [09:17] Yay [09:17] I have some superveal powers on escudera [09:17] s/escudera/escudero/ [09:18] ddaa: including what becomes http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/src/ ? [09:18] hu, no, not that [09:19] feh. [09:19] prolly poolie, lifeless, and maybe j-a-meinel have access there [09:19] they do, but aren't very responsive atm. [09:19] otherwise we can bug a sysadmin for you [09:20] if it's like really urgent OMG [09:20] no, it's not OMG urgent. [09:20] it's 0.14rc1-announcement-delaying urgent === LarstiQ shrugs [09:20] *shrug* [09:21] I'll just go ahead opening up bzr.dev first then. === Odd_Bloke [n=oddbloke@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-afk [09:31] Hi guys, the FAQ seems to suggest that Lauchpad will host Bazaar branches which can be committed to. We currently have a mirror of our own branch set up on Launchpad but would like to make the full transfer. Is this possible? [09:32] ddaa: can you talk Odd_Bloke through this? === LarstiQ pays attention on how to transition a mirrored to a hosted branch. [09:33] it will not be a happy story [09:33] Odd_Bloke: this is a topic that has been in discussion for some time, and the conclusion that we had got to at this stage is that you cannot convert a branch [09:33] hu... [09:34] Odd_Bloke: short answer you can [09:34] you can however push to a new branch [09:34] you cannot === lamby [n=lamby@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad === lamby [n=lamby@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has left #launchpad [] [09:34] Pushing to a new branch would retain the revision history, no? [09:34] yes [09:35] it effectively makes an entire new repository on the server [09:35] The recommended way is that you mark the existing branch as "Abandoned", add "-deleted" to its name, and forget about it. Then push the branch to sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net [09:35] ddaa: see it is asked for :) [09:35] I damn well know this feature is asked for. [09:35] ddaa: I know, it was a friendly gib [09:36] and I think I documented the issue we need to fix before implementing it [09:36] thumper: while technically correct, did you really mean repository? [09:36] LarstiQ: repository as in .bzr/repository [09:36] not as in bzr init-repository [09:36] OK, so forget the existing branch and then 'bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net'? [09:36] Odd_Bloke: right [09:36] ddaa: that is why I say, technically correct. [09:37] ddaa: there is still confusion about branches/repositories/workingtrees [09:37] And then to pull it out again it's just 'bzr pull sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net'? [09:37] LarstiQ: I'm obviously still confused about that then [09:37] LarstiQ, that is definitely true [09:37] Odd_Bloke: the first time you'll need to compose the sftp url by hand. It's moderately tricky. There is currently a patch deployed on edge.launchpad.net that gives instruction to other users on how to commit to this branch, including the full sftp url. [09:37] Odd_Bloke: to pull out you have two options [09:38] either http://bazaar.launchpad.net for public read-only [09:38] or sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net for restricted read-write [09:38] only members of the team owning the branch can use the sftp url [09:38] though it's recommended to "bzr checkout" from sftp instead of "bzr pull" [09:39] ddaa: why? === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #launchpad [09:39] see http://blogs.gnome.org/view/jamesh/2006/08/17/1 [09:39] This may be a stupid question, but how does the Launchpad server know what to relate the pushed branch to? [09:39] k [09:39] thumper: because checkout is the right way to work on multi-committer branches. [09:39] ddaa: hmkay [09:39] Odd_Bloke: what do you mean by "what"? [09:40] ddaa: but pull is fine if it is just a private branch === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === thumper is not used to working with multi-committer bzr branches [09:40] ddaa: Hold on, I'll try doing this first and then if I have problems I'll ask. :p === LarstiQ notes `bzr pull` works fine in checkouts, but it will also update the master branch [09:40] Odd_Bloke: the launchpad product is determined by the sftp URL === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [09:41] Odd_Bloke: the launchpad owner is determined by the sftp URL [09:41] the user logging in is determined by the sftp handshake (ssh login and ssh key) [09:42] thumper: yes, but Odd_Bloke is interested in making a multi-committer branch :) [09:43] fair enough [09:44] it also has nicer defaults, because push does not default to the parent [09:45] the common use case with pull-push is "pull from somebody else, push to my public place" [09:45] here, we have "push and pull from the same place" [09:45] also, if it is a private branch, you do not need to pull, since you just push new data. [09:46] I'm getting "Branches must be inside a person or team directory." errors... [09:46] ... === static [n=emurphy@194.18.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [09:46] Odd_Bloke: what are you using as url to push to? [09:47] Odd_Bloke: the sftp URL needs to conform to the syntax described there: https://code.launchpad.net/ [09:47] or there: http://ddaa.net/blog/launchpad/bzr-hosting [09:48] if you give me more details (your launchpad account name, the product, the team, the branch name) I can tell you the exact URL to use. === bdmurray [n=theman@c-24-21-235-175.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad [09:50] ddaa: Thanks, that seems to now be working. [09:50] what's the url of the branch page? [09:51] https://code.launchpad.net/~gryle-devel/+branch/gryle/trunk [09:52] Just got the confirmation from bzr. [09:53] And the timestamp of the error on the page is before the push had completed. [09:53] Odd_Bloke: yeah, known bug [09:53] the error should disappear in 10 mins [09:53] ideally, we would track sftp sessions to avoid this race [09:54] Just doing a checkout into a different directory as a test. [09:55] I'm having an issue pushing a branch to launchpad, is this the right place to look for assistance? [09:55] duh! [09:55] bdmurray: absolutely [09:55] Looks like this FAQ entry suddently increased my popularity by a tenfold :) [09:55] The error is: bzr: ERROR: Parent directory of sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper/bughelper.dev does not exist. [09:56] mh [09:56] ddaa: That's worked, thanks again. [09:57] bdmurray: I thought this bug was fixed. Try adding the "--create-prefix" option to bzr push. [09:58] ddaa: yes, that fixed it [09:58] bdmurray: by the way, what was the full command you entered to get this error? [09:58] bzr push sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper/bughelper.dev [09:58] looks good [09:59] weird, I cannot see the branch there https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/+branches [09:59] hmm, looking at the output again it says 0 revisions pushed [10:01] New bug: #79637 in malone "Code that constructs the nomination +editstatus URL wrongly assumes ILaunchBag.bugtask will not return None." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79637 [10:01] bdmurray: it looks like you are acting confused [10:02] bdmurray: check that the current directory in your shell is indeed within the branch you intend to upload ("bzr info", or "bzr log | less") [10:02] and paste the last command you ran with its full output to some pastebin === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #launchpad [10:03] this feature works very reliably, but it's a bit confusing to use at first. === lamby [n=lamby@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad [10:04] ddaa: I believe I see the issue. The publish to branch is different than the push url. How would I change the publish to branch? [10:05] The branch you have was created with "bzr checkout", right? [10:06] bdmurray: it would be easier for me to help if you showed me the output of bzr info and the command you ran and its output. [10:06] it looks like I initially used "bzr branch" and not "bzr checkout", if I recall correctly I received an error with bzr checkout [10:07] because now I can only speculate [10:08] bzr info and my failing push command correct? [10:08] yes please [10:09] matsubara, kiko: can one of you run a query for me on staging? [10:09] yes [10:09] http://pastebin.com/860792 [10:11] kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filelmFvE7.html [10:11] kiko: just tell me how long this takes to execute [10:12] i'm trying what I think is a trivial fix to the +needsattention timeout [10:12] it's pretty fast flacoste [10:13] great, the timeout was caused by a typo then! [10:13] what typo? [10:13] https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileocuOlP.html [10:13] it could be table locks [10:13] in the last subselect, the outer select was referenced by mistake [10:13] or different data causing different behaviours [10:13] etc [10:13] Ticket.id instead of t.id [10:14] really silly [10:14] kiko: compare with https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filezkusuL.html [10:15] flacoste, that is even faster [10:15] really? [10:16] that doesn't make sense!?! [10:16] bdmurray: checking [10:16] this is weird [10:16] thanks [10:18] So... you previously did "bzr push sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper.main/doc.update", which failed because there is no product "bughelper.main" in launchpad. [10:18] kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filemlD5RP.html is the actual query timeing out, can you check what is its performance on staging? [10:20] bdmurray: try "bzr info sftp://brian-murray@bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/bughelper/bughelper.dev", and paste the command and output, please. [10:20] flacoste, /that/ query takes a long time. [10:20] bdmurray: it looks like this URL is not interpreted correctly, and that there's already a branch there. [10:21] mpt, ping! [10:21] kiko, the the difference are the prejoins, could this be the problem? [10:21] sure it could [10:21] definitely [10:21] in particular if there are missing indexes [10:21] salgado, nice ping you've got there :-) [10:22] heh [10:22] kiko, they should have indices [10:22] mpt, I'm fixing bug 70518 and I was wondering if you could give me some help on the text that will go in the email... [10:22] Malone bug 70518 in launchpad "Notify team members when their membership is going to expire" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70518 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado) [10:23]