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| lifeless | in edgy, why does ubiquity not allow xfs/reiserfs / partitions ? | 01:14 |
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| tonyyarusso | I'm doing a spot on Main Inclusion Requests for UWN (deferred from before), so if anyone has a spare few minutes to tell me what they think is important to know about them, please join #tonyyarusso (as a suplement to the wiki bits I've found already). | 01:52 |
| Burgundavia | tonyyarusso: you want to talk about it now | 01:54 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 01:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Burgundavia: Sure | 01:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Whoever's up for it, I'm listening :) | 01:54 |
| Burgundavia | basically main inclusion reports means Canonical is willing to support it, at the current moment | 01:55 |
| tonyyarusso | right | 01:55 |
| Burgundavia | packages into main must not be duplicative and have a fairly good security record | 01:55 |
| bhale | hello Burgundavia | 01:55 |
| Burgundavia | hey bhale | 01:55 |
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| Burgundavia | the primary person who reviews them in Martin Pitt | 01:55 |
| tonyyarusso | What's duplicative? Matching features of another? | 01:55 |
| Burgundavia | how goes life? | 01:55 |
| Burgundavia | basically yes | 01:56 |
| bhale | Burgundavia: ltns | 01:56 |
| bhale | Burgundavia: life is good | 01:56 |
| tonyyarusso | Yeah, pitti's apparently gmt+1 though :( | 01:56 |
| Burgundavia | so we will accept on KDE text editor, one GNOME one, etc. | 01:56 |
| tonyyarusso | gotcha | 01:56 |
| Burgundavia | most main inclusion things recently have been hole filling in existing desktops | 01:56 |
| Burgundavia | the last major bit brought in was XFCE | 01:57 |
| === Hobbsee well maybe two kde text editors... | ||
| bhale | it is also new libs that introduce new features into existing packages | 01:57 |
| tonyyarusso | XFCE overall was one MIR? | 01:57 |
| bhale | I wrote one most recently for Sametime IM support in gaim | 01:57 |
| bhale | pulling in libmeanwhile | 01:57 |
| Burgundavia | no, several | 01:57 |
| tonyyarusso | ah | 01:57 |
| Burgundavia | one MIR is required for each source package accepted | 01:58 |
| Burgundavia | in general, if the source has already been in main, in another package, it will be accepted | 01:58 |
| Burgundavia | ie: if you split a source package for whatever reason | 01:58 |
| tonyyarusso | What parts of the application process are most frequently done incorrectly/insufficiently? | 01:58 |
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| Burgundavia | for the MIR? | 01:59 |
| tonyyarusso | Yeah | 01:59 |
| tonyyarusso | Things people should be extra-aware of if they've never done one before, but are somewhat interested. | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | generall people just don't fill all the details out | 02:00 |
| Burgundavia | all the bits needs to be filled out and the rationale needs to a strong one | 02:00 |
| === tonyyarusso nods | ||
| tonyyarusso | Would there be anyone I could say to contact for guidance on one other than pitti / would it be appropriate to mention a name? (UWN) | 02:02 |
| Burgundavia | in general, ask around for one of the core devs to look it over | 02:03 |
| tonyyarusso | All right, I'll see what I can do with that. Let me know if you remember anything else. | 02:05 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 02:05 |
| Burgundavia | MIR are really not that hard | 02:05 |
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| Burgundavia | it is getting a package that is worth it | 02:05 |
| Burgundavia | hey jono | 02:05 |
| jono | hey | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | jono!!!! | 02:06 |
| jono | hey Hobbsee :) | 02:06 |
| jono | Hobbsee: you at LCA? | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | jono: no, but i was at lowenbrau | 02:06 |
| jono | Hobbsee: really? | 02:07 |
| Gman | mmm, steins of lowenbrau..... | 02:07 |
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| jono | Hobbsee: shame we didnt meet up | 02:07 |
| jono | mjg59: :P | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | jono: yes. i saw you in the room, but you were happily talking, so didnt go up | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | oh, and StevenK and i left at about 11pm | 02:07 |
| jono | Hobbsee: come and interrupt next time :) | 02:07 |
| jono | right | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | jono: hehe. i thougth about it. | 02:08 |
| mjg59 | Hobbsee: You'll be here for the open day? | 02:08 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: yes | 02:08 |
| mjg59 | Excellent | 02:08 |
| Burgundavia | hey mjg59 | 02:08 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: i dont know what you look like though, so it's fairly impossible to come say hello | 02:08 |
| mjg59 | Hobbsee: images.google is your friend | 02:08 |
| jono | the legend of Matthew Garrett | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | Except I have longer hair at the moment | 02:09 |
| Gman | look for an angry man trying to avoid fixing everyones laptops | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | I've fixed no laptops yet! | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | But I'm helping to run a session on fixing laptops in the kernel miniconf this afternoon | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | (And desperately trying to write my talk for tomorrow right now) | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:10 |
| Gman | mjg59, how about power management on opensolaris? :) | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | jono: lca is crap for the people who already live in sydney, but not the city :P | 02:10 |
| mjg59 | Maybe you guys will implement it some day | 02:11 |
| jono | heh | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: hrm, okay, didnt notice you at lowenbrau then | 02:11 |
| mjg59 | Hobbsee: Oh, I wasn't there | 02:12 |
| mjg59 | Sorry, should have been clearer | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: ahhhh. that explains | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | mind you, with 80+ people there, it's understandable that i didnt see you :P | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | even if you were there | 02:13 |
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| jmg | hi all | 03:49 |
| jmg | is there a policy document or something that talks about why ubuntu uses python | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | about *why* ubuntu uses python? | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | or how to package python stuff for ubuntu? | 03:50 |
| jmg | why | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu doesn't in particular | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | there is no policy | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | it's just that a lot of people (not just Ubuntu) like it | 03:50 |
| jmg | oh | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | because of the libraries for it, and it's an easy programming language, and people like it. | 03:51 |
| jmg | i thought there was a pythonise everything policy | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | no | 03:51 |
| jmg | ok then | 03:51 |
| jmg | my mistake | 03:51 |
| jmg | im sure ive seen it | 03:51 |
| jmg | "why python" | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | it's a common one. Mark Shuttleworth likes to push Python as a good programming language | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | and we tend to favor it for sure | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | but there is no policy | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | and we don't intentionally go and rewrite stuff just because it's not Python | 03:52 |
| jmg | alright then | 03:53 |
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| somerville32 | :) | 03:55 |
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| mynameisdeleted | hi | 05:37 |
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| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| mynameisdeleted | who do I email if I want my xubuntu mirror listed in the official mirrors list | 05:39 |
| mynameisdeleted | and what are the requirements for that? | 05:39 |
| mynameisdeleted | its on gigabit ethernet connected to a datacenter | 05:40 |
| mynameisdeleted | so it can provide a full gigabit of bandwidth theoretically | 05:40 |
| mynameisdeleted | and it syncs once a day automatically | 05:42 |
| Amaranth | hmm | 05:42 |
| Amaranth | can't remember who to email, sorry | 05:43 |
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| _ion | mirrors@ubuntu.com probably | 05:53 |
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| fabbione | morning | 06:43 |
| Burgundavia | morning fabbione | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | heya fabbione! | 06:44 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 08:00 |
| fabbione | yo Martin | 08:01 |
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| doko | good morning | 08:10 |
| Burgundavia | hey doko, pitti | 08:10 |
| doko | Mithrandir: please requeue pygresql (all archs) and bzrtools (i386) | 08:10 |
| pitti | doko: right, new libpq-dev is in the archive | 08:11 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: if you are at it, please give-back qt-x11-free as well (it failed due to the same bug in libpq-dev) | 08:12 |
| Mithrandir | doko,pitti: given-back; | 08:13 |
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| === fabbione waves to the german crowd | ||
| pitti | Mithrandir: thanks | 08:16 |
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| tepsipakki | Mithrandir: about those sync-requests.. all but one are ack'd now | 08:19 |
| tepsipakki | oh wait, I made some new ones yesterday | 08:19 |
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| Mithrandir | tepsipakki: please don't subscribe ubuntu-archive until they're acked, they'll just clutter the list I use to do them. | 08:22 |
| tepsipakki | ok, sorry | 08:23 |
| Mithrandir | subscribing ubuntu-archive is akin to saying "please process this report" which we obviously can't do before it's complete. | 08:24 |
| tepsipakki | I recall some doc saying that when requesting a sync u-a should be subscribed | 08:26 |
| tepsipakki | but can't find it now | 08:27 |
| StevenK | Exactly, but not if you're not a MOTU. | 08:27 |
| tepsipakki | right :) | 08:28 |
| StevenK | If you aren't, request a sync, and the MOTU will ACK it and then subscribe ubuntu-archive | 08:28 |
| StevenK | s/the/then/ | 08:28 |
| Mithrandir | correct. | 08:28 |
| fabbione | WHHEEEEEe | 08:29 |
| fabbione | between doko and pitti we could have just reupload all of feisty | 08:29 |
| fabbione | it would have been faster | 08:29 |
| pitti | fabbione: hey, I only had 10 uploads or so | 08:29 |
| fabbione | i saw a bunch too from yesterday :) | 08:30 |
| doko | fabbione: fewer uploads than for the 2.3->2.4 transition :) | 08:30 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: we need the big green button on LP: "Rebuild world" | 08:30 |
| doko | fabbione: just the automated language packs ;-P | 08:30 |
| fabbione | oh i am happy if you rebuild everything | 08:31 |
| fabbione | it will make more pkgs debuggable on sparc | 08:31 |
| fabbione | just upload even more | 08:31 |
| fabbione | ALL of the archive | 08:31 |
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| Mithrandir | fabbione: no, we won't do mass rebuilds and put the resulting binaries in the archive. | 08:40 |
| doko | hmm, did the gnomies break things yesterday? | 08:41 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: i know we don't. we should be able with LP adding a proper source entry and reupload the source automatically | 08:41 |
| doko | Mithrandir: could you give back revelation? (just on one arch to try my theory) | 08:41 |
| Mithrandir | doko: amd64 and ppc had gtk uninstallable for a little while yesterday, yes. | 08:42 |
| Mithrandir | doko: given-back on amd64 | 08:42 |
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| Mithrandir | pitti: you asked for an strace sync two months ago, it seems. It failed to build on i386; would you care to investigate? | 08:48 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: oh, sure | 08:49 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: also, python-apport-utils is not built any more? | 08:50 |
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| pitti | Mithrandir: right, that can go away | 08:50 |
| mvo | pitti: python-apport-utils is a package that is removed on every upgrade currently | 08:50 |
| mvo | that is ok I presume? | 08:50 |
| pitti | mvo: then it works correctly :) | 08:50 |
| pitti | replaced by python-apport | 08:50 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: thanks; removed from the archive. | 08:50 |
| pitti | I moved everything into a proper python package now | 08:50 |
| mvo | great, thanks | 08:51 |
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| Mithrandir | dear bzip2 developers. Please do not call fprintf, nor fclose, nor exit in a signal handler. Love, Tollef. | 08:57 |
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| doko | holy crap, how long does it take to tidy a chroot with gnome build-deps installed? | 08:58 |
| thom | not long... rm -rf chroot; mkdir -p chroot; debootstrap feisty chroot | 09:00 |
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| doko | Mithrandir: please requeue revelation on powerpc as well | 09:02 |
| doko | Riddell: kde's detection of python versions is so broken ... | 09:04 |
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| Mithrandir | doko: given-back. | 09:05 |
| doko | Mithrandir: please give back papaya on amd64 (gnome ...) | 09:07 |
| Mithrandir | doko: not on ppc? | 09:09 |
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| doko | Mithrandir: hmm, this has still "Needs building", yes, sparc as well | 09:12 |
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| Mithrandir | rideout: debtags uploaded over a month ago is FTBFS. | 09:15 |
| rideout | Mithrandir: what? | 09:15 |
| Mithrandir | rideout: oops, tab-completion error. | 09:15 |
| Mithrandir | Riddell: debtags uploaded over a month ago is FTBFS. | 09:16 |
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| \sh | packages with unmet deps, can we still force a rebuild with adding buildY as version add to debian/changelog? | 09:22 |
| Mithrandir | \sh: that is the correct way to just do a rebuild, yes. | 09:23 |
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| pitti | mvo: do you know that current u-manager immediately crashes with a python exception? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | pitti: I told him yesterday | 09:30 |
| seb128 | pitti: he blames python-dbus and doko :p | 09:30 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, I haven't debugged it yet, but it looks like it was introduced from python2.5 dbus | 09:30 |
| seb128 | hey pitti mvo | 09:30 |
| doko | mvo: python2.5-dbus is gone | 09:30 |
| mvo | heyhey seb128 | 09:30 |
| seb128 | doko: what do you mean, it's using python2.4 again? | 09:31 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 09:31 |
| pitti | seb128: btw, your patch for bug 58373 changed things for the worse | 09:32 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58373 in xorg-server "Blue compiz for PowerPC" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58373 | 09:32 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: could you promote gstreamer-tools binary (from gstreamer0.10 package) so gst-plugins-base0.10 and gst-plugins-good0.10 which Build-Depends on it can build? ;) | 09:32 |
| pitti | seb128: instead of a tinted blue screen I now get a completely white screen with compiz enabled | 09:32 |
| fabbione | and turned x86* on white | 09:32 |
| doko | seb128: python-dbus ;-P | 09:32 |
| pitti | fabbione: oh, then it's not just ppc any more | 09:32 |
| fabbione | pitti: dunno :) i was trying to give some X hell to seb128 :P | 09:32 |
| mneptok | doko: ping | 09:32 |
| seb128 | pitti: same for everybody apparently, and that's not due to the patch, that has been triggered by the package rebuild | 09:32 |
| doko | mneptok: bash pong? | 09:32 |
| fabbione | pitti: but i saw several reports | 09:33 |
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| Mithrandir | seb128: promoted | 09:33 |
| mneptok | doko: do you have access to a PPC machine running Edgy? | 09:33 |
| pitti | hey hey dholbach | 09:33 |
| seb128 | pitti: rebuilding the package without the patches from the new revision does the same :/ | 09:33 |
| seb128 | hi dholbach | 09:33 |
| mneptok | doko: (not bash. Java.) :/ | 09:33 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: thank you | 09:33 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: BTW what is libgimme-codec to NEW? | 09:33 |
| doko | mneptok: chroot in the data center, nothing more at the moment | 09:33 |
| seb128 | s/what// | 09:33 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: it'll be visible in about an hour. | 09:33 |
| dholbach | good morning | 09:33 |
| dholbach | hey pitti, hey seb128 | 09:33 |
| dholbach | mneptok: i do | 09:33 |
| mvo | hey dholbach! | 09:33 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: libgimme-codec didn't ship a copy of the licence in the orig.tar.gz, it was in the diff. | 09:34 |
| dholbach | heya mvo | 09:34 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: right, and I uploaded it again like half an hour after the rejected mail | 09:34 |
| mneptok | doko: looks like sun-java5-jre on PPC has a dependency on sun-java5-bin(i386) | 09:34 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: with the COPYING.LIB to the orig that time | 09:34 |
| mneptok | that .... doesn't work so well ;) | 09:34 |
| doko | mneptok: sure, please convince sun to release sun-java for ppc, kthxbye ;-P | 09:34 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: oh, you just missed my NEW processing yesterday, then. I'll go look at it when I get bored at fixing stuff from feisty_outdate.txt. | 09:34 |
| pitti | doko: hm, pygresql finally built, but not on sparc/ia64 | 09:35 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: ok thank you, it's needed for EasyCodecInstallation ;) | 09:35 |
| mneptok | doko: *gasp* i thought they did that like 8 months ago!? | 09:35 |
| pitti | doko: ah, seems that new psql is not yet built there, I'll chase this | 09:35 |
| mneptok | doko: pardon the smell of my brain fart. i'll go back under my rock. | 09:36 |
| doko | mneptok: np | 09:36 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: can you please give-back pygresql on ia64 and sparc? | 09:36 |
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| Mithrandir | pitti: given-back | 09:37 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: and qt-x11-free on powerpc? | 09:37 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: merci | 09:37 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: qt-x11-free> given-back. | 09:38 |
| pitti | argh, a broken bzr push really hurts | 09:40 |
| pitti | doko: there's a sync request for paramiko; will the new version fix the Crypto.Util.randpool module or shall I file a bug about that? | 09:42 |
| pitti | doko: hm, no, it doesn't | 09:43 |
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| pitti | doko: ok, I filed a bug and sub'ed lifeless | 09:45 |
| pitti | seb128: is it really deliberate that the System menu is so empty now, and I must use this control-center thingy? | 09:47 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: http://librarian.launchpad.net/5650834/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-ia64.evolution-data-server_1.9.5-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ; You are winn0r. (I have no idea why it fails there, but please check) | 09:47 |
| doko | pitti: thanks | 09:47 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: gtk-doc b0rked on ia64 | 09:48 |
| seb128 | pitti: yep | 09:48 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: ugh. Any idea if/when it'll be fixed? | 09:48 |
| seb128 | pitti: that's the way to not get those crowded menus we had | 09:48 |
| pitti | seb128: :-( | 09:48 |
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| pitti | seb128: and now we get a crowded c-c where it takes even longer to find stuff | 09:49 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: it's b0rked for months, probably not soon, my usual workaround it to not build the documentation during the build since they ship it with the tarball anyway | 09:49 |
| pitti | and not even with admin/user stuff clearly separated | 09:49 |
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| seb128 | Mithrandir: I'll change that, we probably made it build when we synced with Debian | 09:49 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: ok, thanks. | 09:49 |
| seb128 | pitti: categories are going to be fixed, they are not set correctly for many items atm | 09:50 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: you are the winner of a graphviz build failure on sparc; bus error. Care to investigate? | 09:50 |
| seb128 | pitti: and when you open the shell the focus is on the search entry to filter | 09:50 |
| seb128 | pitti: just type there :p | 09:50 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, I bow to the power of approved specs (I assume?), I still don't like it :) | 09:51 |
| seb128 | pitti: no, that's the power of upstream | 09:52 |
| pitti | ("What is a GNOME and why should I control it?") | 09:52 |
| seb128 | pitti: there is a bug open about the item name, it's going to be fixed | 09:52 |
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| seb128 | :) | 09:52 |
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| seb128 | pitti: it's probably not that hard to get a menu back, the problem is that you will get submenus for the categories | 09:53 |
| seb128 | pitti: having the menu is just a matter of changing /etc/xdg/menus/*.menu | 09:54 |
| pitti | seb128: what's your preference? | 09:54 |
| pitti | if I'm the only one who doesn't like it, I just shut up | 09:54 |
| seb128 | pitti: well, we are trying to "solve" the crowded menus problem for some time and the new shell is what Novell did after doing usability studies, etc | 09:55 |
| seb128 | pitti: so I would give a chance to the new way, though I'm used to the menus and I find them easier to use atm | 09:56 |
| pitti | seb128: but now it's one entry ("GNOME c-c") instead of two (prefs and admin), and the system menu itself got less useful | 09:56 |
| seb128 | pitti: well, the shell has categories | 09:56 |
| seb128 | pitti: we could do one "admin" category | 09:57 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: ugh, that strace thing really sucks, will take me a while | 09:58 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: sure, no hurry for me, I just noticed it was out of date. | 09:59 |
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| fabbione | Mithrandir: i already did and there is a but open for it | 10:04 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: and no, i am not the winner | 10:04 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gs-esp/+bug/76749 | 10:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76749 in gs-esp "[SPARC/feisty] gs-esp BUS ERROR" [High,Unconfirmed] | 10:05 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: that causes graphiz to FTBFS | 10:05 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: and it's easy to reproduce on faure. so Ian or whoever can fix it | 10:07 |
| Mithrandir | it's still a sparc-only bug, so you win anyway. :-P | 10:08 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: nope.. i don't | 10:08 |
| fabbione | i swear.. i don't | 10:08 |
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| dholbach | mvo: works in underway on the debian dbus experimental package afaik | 10:26 |
| dholbach | mvo: at least smcv told me that | 10:27 |
| mvo | dholbach: do you have more details? it looks like the real problem is pyrex | 10:36 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: strace FTBFS fix uploaded | 10:36 |
| dholbach | mvo: that's what smcv said too | 10:36 |
| dholbach | mvo: he said he's working on it and will upload it to experimental | 10:37 |
| dholbach | mvo: he's on #telepathy if you want to talk to him | 10:37 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: yay you! | 10:37 |
| mvo | dholbach: I'm testing a paatch currently, lets see if that one works | 10:39 |
| dholbach | mvo: ROCK | 10:39 |
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| fbenites | hi! | 10:46 |
| fbenites | i want to use skas to build the ubuntu-kernel, does someone have experience with it? | 10:48 |
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| cjwatson | mynameisdeleted: mirrors@ubuntu.com; information at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/mirror | 10:58 |
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| mvo_ | dholbach: hrm, patch not working. *grumpf* | 11:07 |
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| fabbione | iwj: could you please look at bug #76749 ? i don't know the code base there.... | 11:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76749 in gs-esp "[SPARC/feisty] gs-esp BUS ERROR" [High,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76749 | 11:13 |
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| fbenites | why does ubuntu not support skas? | 11:16 |
| mneptok | huh? | 11:16 |
| iwj | fabbione: Sure, but I think it actually needs debugging. I'll assign it to me. Is it urgent to investigate ? | 11:16 |
| fabbione | iwj: Mithrandir keeps bugging me about graphiz that FTBFS on sparc because of that.. | 11:17 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: ^ | 11:17 |
| fabbione | iwj: it's reproducible on faure easily | 11:17 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: seriously, I don't "keep bugging you", I've asked you once about it. | 11:17 |
| Mirv | mvo_: is the fix for bug #68553 going to be in dapper or not? update from 6.06 LTS to 6.10 is apparently still breaking for anyone using Finnish locale | 11:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68553 in update-manager "Dapper upgrade to Edgy: Frozen dist-upgrade and failed second run (in finish locales" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68553 | 11:17 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: twice :P | 11:17 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: but no.. you don't bug me.. | 11:18 |
| fabbione | there was some hirony there... | 11:18 |
| fabbione | sorry if it was not spottable | 11:18 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: no, I did it once. Colin did so too before xmas, but I'm not cjwatson. | 11:18 |
| fabbione | well you are all RM's :) | 11:19 |
| fabbione | same team | 11:19 |
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| iwj | Mithrandir: So is it urgent ? You should bug me about it now instead of fabbione :-). | 11:19 |
| Mirv | (your one line working fix for python-apt was at http://librarian.launchpad.net/4937800/dist-upgrader-fix-68553.diff ) | 11:19 |
| fabbione | iwj: thanks for looking at it | 11:19 |
| Mithrandir | iwj: no, it's not urgent, but I don't count on people reading http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/feisty_outdate.txt and being able to interpret the output there. | 11:20 |
| iwj | Mithrandir: Err, I'm not sure I follow the relevance of feisty_outdate.txt ... | 11:21 |
| Mithrandir | iwj: it shows that graphviz is out of date on sparc, which in this case is due to it failing to build on sparc due to the beforementioned bug. | 11:22 |
| iwj | Mithrandir: OIC | 11:22 |
| mvo_ | Mirv: I preare a SRU for it now | 11:22 |
| Mithrandir | and I'd so much rather have ftbfs bugs fixed early rather than late; experience shows they're not fixed in the last month when we're in a rush. | 11:22 |
| iwj | Mithrandir: Right. I'll take a look at it today. | 11:23 |
| Mithrandir | iwj: excellent, thanks. | 11:23 |
| mvo_ | Mirv: it should be fixed with the latest language-pack update though. strnage | 11:24 |
| Mirv | mvo_: well, maybe I heard it from someone who hasn't updated his dapper. I should probably test it myself, then. | 11:24 |
| mvo_ | Mirv: having this python-apt bug fixed is still a good idea | 11:25 |
| Mirv | mvo_: probably, as it's no-risk anyway | 11:26 |
| Mithrandir | SRUs are never no-risk. | 11:26 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: do we know when http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/feisty_outdate.txt has been generated? | 11:28 |
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| seb128 | Mithrandir: it lists "control-center 1:2.17.5-0ubuntu4 gnome-control-center-dev(i386/all) 1:2.17.1-0ubuntu2 from 1:2.17.1-0ubuntu2" by example where the package has built some days ago and is available | 11:29 |
| seb128 | ah | 11:29 |
| seb128 | hum, no | 11:29 |
| seb128 | that package has been renamed | 11:30 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: yes, the gnome-control-center-dev binary package is no longer built. | 11:30 |
| seb128 | right, why is it listed? | 11:30 |
| seb128 | not built from source should be dropped no? | 11:30 |
| Mithrandir | because the binary hasn't been removed yet. | 11:30 |
| Mithrandir | yes, but it's done when an archive admin gets around to it, it's not done automatically. | 11:30 |
| seb128 | that requires manual work? | 11:30 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 11:30 |
| seb128 | makes sense then | 11:31 |
| Mithrandir | yes (intentionally) | 11:31 |
| seb128 | I though the archive was clever enough to clean things not built from source | 11:31 |
| \sh | I just asked it on #ubuntu-kernel but does anyone know why UTS_RELEASE is not set anymore in /usr/include/linux/version.h from linux-libc-dev ? | 11:31 |
| Mithrandir | no, it's done by hand, which is how we want it. | 11:31 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:32 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: could we have a timestamp at the top or bottom of feisty_outdate.txt? | 11:32 |
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| mvo_ | doko_: will openoffice.org-l10n-km come back at some point? or is it gone forever? | 11:36 |
| Mirv | Mithrandir: yes, right about that "never no-risk" thing, though that one line patch seems like quite near that | 11:36 |
| cjwatson | Mithrandir: sure, give me a minute | 11:36 |
| cjwatson | Mithrandir: (there's a timestamp on feisty_probs.html) | 11:37 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: sure, no hurry | 11:37 |
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| cjwatson | Mithrandir: done for next update | 11:39 |
| Mithrandir | thanks | 11:39 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:39 |
| seb128 | why does feisty_probs lists that: | 11:40 |
| seb128 | rhythmbox 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 produces uninstallable binaries: | 11:40 |
| seb128 | * rhythmbox-dbg (amd64 i386 powerpc sparc) | 11:40 |
| seb128 | where rhythmbox version is 0.9.7-0ubuntu4 to feisty | 11:40 |
| fabbione | seb128: does rhythmbox-dbg exists from 0.9.7 ? | 11:40 |
| seb128 | fabbione: no, we have -dbgsym packages now, I've stopped adding -dbg packages were Debian didn't have them | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | seb128: because rhythmbox-dbg is still in the archive and hasn't been NBS-removed yet | 11:41 |
| fabbione | seb128: that's probably why | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | you can ignore that | 11:41 |
| fabbione | it needs NBS.. as cjwatson just wrote faster than me | 11:41 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:42 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, fabbione: thank you | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | Mithrandir: I'm just going to do a quick Ubuntu/alternate respin so I can progress with intel-mac-support today; hope that's ok | 11:42 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: oh, sure, I'm in archive-admin mode today, it seems. | 11:42 |
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| mvo_ | pitti: can we remove the openoffice.org-l10n-km dependency from langauge-support-km? openoffice.org-l10n-km is currently not in the archive (doko will know if it is just temporarly removed or not) | 11:57 |
| pitti | mvo_: sure, no problem | 11:57 |
| mvo_ | thanks | 11:57 |
| pitti | doko: please confirm? | 11:57 |
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| mvo_ | it currently breaks my "try-to-upgrade-all-of-main" testcase. not that bad, but I would prefer to be able to keep testing :) | 11:58 |
| pitti | mvo_: will do once doko confirms | 11:58 |
| doko | pitti, mvo_: confirmed | 11:59 |
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| iwj | mvo_: Did you see my mail about apt-ftparchive and signing ? If you could point me to the docs if there are any that would be very nice ... | 12:24 |
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| seb128 | doko: do you reply to questions about python-support? ;) | 12:36 |
| doko | seb128: yes. just one answer | 12:36 |
| doko | how to convert to python-central ;-P | 12:36 |
| seb128 | doko: I'm trying to look at your bug about python-vte, but I'm not sure what the problem is | 12:36 |
| seb128 | is that because debian/pyversions contains "2"? | 12:37 |
| seb128 | should it be 2.4-? | 12:37 |
| doko | rm -f debian/pyversions; sed s/python-support/python-central/g debian/* | 12:37 |
| seb128 | I don't fancy diverting from Debian when not required | 12:38 |
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| mvo_ | iwj: sorry that I have not replied yet, I will answer it right after lunch | 12:39 |
| davmor2 | you might want to keep your eyes on gossip telepathy it is crashing out when I try to add an account for irc. | 12:41 |
| davmor2 | bug has been sent to both malone and upstream | 12:41 |
| Zdra | ah, davmor2, did you tried last package update of gossip-telepathy ? | 12:41 |
| iwj | mvo_: NP. | 12:41 |
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| iwj | mvo_: I've got plenty else to be getting on with :-). | 12:41 |
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| davmor2 | Zdra: Did a dist-upgrade about 20 minutes ago is that up-to-date enough? | 12:42 |
| davmor2 | Just checking again | 12:43 |
| Zdra | davmor2: and please install debug package before reporting crash, like said on the page I gave you: http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Gossip | 12:43 |
| Zdra | davmor2: dholbach uploaded it recently, don't know if it's already build | 12:44 |
| davmor2 | Gnome had already asked me to do that with the first bug I reported | 12:44 |
| davmor2 | Zdra: please check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397220 | 12:45 |
| Ubugtu | Gnome bug 397220 in General "crash in Gossip Instant Messenger: trying to set up an irc ..." [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 12:45 |
| Zdra | btw, ubuntu guys, the most important thing to change in apport and bugbuddy is to refuse trace with unknown symbols, or install -dbgsym package automatically, or whatever :D | 12:45 |
| davmor2 | only effect my irc and not gmail | 12:45 |
| Zdra | davmor2: jabber account is different | 12:45 |
| seb128 | Zdra: apport attach the coredump which allow to get a debug backtrace with apport-retrace | 12:46 |
| pitti | Zdra: we won't download/install -dbgsym packages automatically, that would be a huge pain for the user | 12:46 |
| Zdra | seb128: oh, very good to know, thanks ! | 12:46 |
| seb128 | Zdra: and bugzilla.gnome rejects empty backtraces now | 12:46 |
| pitti | Zdra: right, what seb128 says; the initial stacktrace is only for automatic dup finding, etc, we can get a better one | 12:47 |
| Zdra | davmor2: ok so you have the choice, install debug packages and post a useful bt or attach the apport file that I can retrace... | 12:49 |
| Zdra | but I'm 99% sure your bug is already fixed :) | 12:49 |
| pitti | mvo_: new l-support-km uploaded | 12:52 |
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| mvo_ | thanks pitti | 12:55 |
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| davmor2 | Zdra: just got this in terminal ** (gossip:22675): WARNING **: GossipAccount has no parameter named `\u0003' | 01:00 |
| davmor2 | ** (gossip:22675): WARNING **: GossipAccount has no parameter named `\u0003' | 01:00 |
| Zdra | davmor2: that's clearly things that is now fixed, I'll close your bugs, if you can reproduce it with today's gossip-telepathy package please reopen ;) | 01:01 |
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| davmor2 | thanks for clearing that up then I'll just wait for the update | 01:02 |
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| seb128 | doko: feel free to fix vte as you prefer, I don't know what to change and since you don't want to reply to my question :p | 01:04 |
| doko | seb128: I would have to look myself | 01:04 |
| seb128 | doko: you don't know how python-support work? | 01:05 |
| seb128 | doko: do you have to list versions like "2.4-"? Does that mean than all the source packages will need to be changed when we drop python2.4? | 01:05 |
| doko | seb128: maybe, maybe not. python-support did decide to hardcode versions in debian/*, so that you have to look at the package source, instead of looking into the Packages and Sources files | 01:07 |
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| seb128 | doko: why is not the set of version defined by python-default or something like that? | 01:07 |
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| doko | seb128: because the author of python-support changes things when he likes; and apparently he now dislikes pyversions. grep the python-support package for other fucked up stuff -> grep -r doko . | 01:09 |
| seb128 | doko: ok, thank you, maybe using pycentral is not a bad idea then :p | 01:10 |
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| davmor2 | Zdra: 32bit version just updated and now gossip works :). Thanks for the help. | 01:14 |
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| crimsun | rodarvus: ping, may I upload a no-change rebuild of mesa to fix bug 79196? | 01:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79196 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core_1.1.1-0ubuntu13_i386 breaks compiz/beryl (white screen)" [Low,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79196 | 01:46 |
| crimsun | rodarvus: it's incorrectly assigned to xorg-server there; it's not an issue in that source package. I've confirmed locally that a simple rebuild of mesa resolves the issue. | 01:47 |
| rodarvus | its quite interesting that a simple rebuild of mesa fixes this problem, but sure, go ahead. | 01:49 |
| crimsun | rodarvus: thank you! | 01:49 |
| rodarvus | np | 01:49 |
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| Amaranth | yay | 01:49 |
| sivang | morning | 01:50 |
| sivang | Amaranth: would you happen to know what to do (I'm on fesity) if none of the apps can get name->ip resolution but dig and nslookup operate without problems ? resolve.conf also has the right nameserver values and I'm using network manager, which up until I did apt-get autoremove everything worked flawlessly | 01:51 |
| Amaranth | hrm | 01:52 |
| Amaranth | don't suppose you remember what got removed | 01:52 |
| sivang | Amaranth: very odd, feels like something wrong with libc or so (or the resolver lib) | 01:52 |
| Amaranth | might be zeroconf related | 01:52 |
| sivang | Amaranth: hmm, interesting, because it's very odd that the NS settings are dead correct still, no app can resolve | 01:53 |
| Amaranth | but i wouldn't think so if nslookup worked | 01:53 |
| sivang | it works no prob | 01:53 |
| sivang | never seend something like that beofre :) | 01:53 |
| fabbione | sivang: if resolver in glibc was broken we would have noticed | 01:53 |
| sivang | but it's very annoying | 01:53 |
| fabbione | check /etc/nsswitch.conf ? (or something like that?) | 01:54 |
| fabbione | perhaps it's broken? | 01:54 |
| sivang | fabbione: let me check | 01:55 |
| Amaranth | the only thing that sticks out to me is libresolv.so.2 but i know nothing about this stuff :P | 01:56 |
| sivang | fabbione: okay, how should it look? mine is as I paste you in pm | 01:56 |
| sivang | (can't use pastebin, no resolution here for the browser) | 01:56 |
| Mithrandir | there, 51 bugs closed. | 01:58 |
| Mithrandir | doko: please don't file bugs about NBS-es, we get to them as part of the regular archive admin work. | 02:01 |
| seb128 | for some value of "regular" ;) | 02:01 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: careful, or I'll enlist you. :-) | 02:02 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: well, rhythmbox-dbg has been dropped months ago I think | 02:02 |
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| seb128 | but right ;) | 02:03 |
| doko | Mithrandir: ok, but these pop up for python2.4 deps, which is a bit annoying | 02:03 |
| Mithrandir | doko: actually, feel free to file for stuff in universe, since _outdate seems to only list main. | 02:05 |
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| crimsun | Mithrandir: thanks for the syncs | 02:14 |
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| Mithrandir | doko: but when you file bugs, please file one bug per source package, don't bunch them like you did in one report, please. | 02:15 |
| niooi | Hi | 02:15 |
| niooi | Please to all the developpers, first of all thanks for your work, second, that would be good if you would leave a CLI installation method on ubuntu. Why? For instance, I have a TV as a monitor and I cannot launch the install process I get a blank or red screen. | 02:17 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | niooi: Have you tried the alternate install cd? | 02:20 |
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| seb128 | hum | 02:24 |
| seb128 | $ dpkg -L python-vte | grep vtemodule | 02:24 |
| seb128 | /usr/share/python-support/python-vte/gtk-2.0/vtemodule.la | 02:24 |
| seb128 | /usr/share/python-support/python-vte/gtk-2.0/vtemodule.a | 02:24 |
| seb128 | /usr/lib/python-support/python-vte/python2.5/gtk-2.0/vtemodule.so | 02:24 |
| seb128 | does that looks wrong to somebody else? | 02:25 |
| seb128 | doko: should .a and .la installed for python modules like that? to /usr/share? | 02:25 |
| Riddell | mvo_: see my /msg? | 02:25 |
| doko | seb128: no | 02:25 |
| seb128 | doko: should I drop the .la and the .a or only the .la or none? | 02:26 |
| doko | seb128: both, we cannot load static libs | 02:26 |
| seb128 | ok | 02:26 |
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| iwj | Hmm. I really want gpg to support HMAC as an ahem public key ahem signature algorithm. | 02:31 |
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| niooi | PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks I never understood what was the alternate CD. | 02:35 |
| niooi | It means I can install it in CLI mode? | 02:36 |
| niooi | That's great | 02:36 |
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| Riddell | carlos: how would you feel about renaming some KDE translation files on export to ubuntu? | 02:43 |
| carlos | Riddell: which kind of rename? | 02:44 |
| Riddell | carlos: the upstream extragear KDE apps have translation files named e.g. desktop_extragear-graphics_gwenview, but they need to be exported to just gwenview | 02:44 |
| carlos | Riddell: so the .po files are named desktop_extragear-graphics_gwenviewSOMETHING.po ? | 02:45 |
| carlos | Riddell: that's fine, what sets the name of the exported file is the translation domain | 02:45 |
| carlos | Riddell: so it's just a matter of having it set properly | 02:45 |
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| Riddell | carlos: set in launchpad? | 02:47 |
| carlos | Riddell: yes | 02:47 |
| carlos | Riddell: is it for Feisty only? | 02:48 |
| Riddell | carlos: yes | 02:48 |
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| carlos | hmm | 02:49 |
| carlos | Riddell: gwenview also exist in dapper and edgy | 02:50 |
| seb128 | carlos: hi | 02:50 |
| carlos | seb128: hi | 02:50 |
| seb128 | carlos: any news on feisty opening to rosetta? | 02:51 |
| carlos | seb128: we are going to do performance tests to be sure that will not make it worse for launchpad timeouts | 02:51 |
| carlos | and we will do them | 02:51 |
| seb128 | ok | 02:51 |
| carlos | will do them == Feisty opening | 02:51 |
| seb128 | do you know when that is planned? | 02:52 |
| seb128 | like for when we can expect it to be done? | 02:52 |
| carlos | sometime between this week and next week | 02:53 |
| carlos | I hope to know it tomorrow | 02:53 |
| carlos | based in our testing, stub will see the best time to shutdown launchpad for 3 hours or so to do the opening | 02:54 |
| seb128 | ok | 02:55 |
| seb128 | thank you | 02:55 |
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| Riddell | carlos: mm, actually it may not be an issue, let me look into it more | 02:56 |
| carlos | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gwenview/+pots/desktop-extragear-graphics-gwenview | 02:56 |
| seb128 | doko: "#! python -OOt", is that a typo? | 02:56 |
| carlos | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+source/gwenview/+pots/gwenview and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gwenview/+pots/gwenview | 02:57 |
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| seb128 | doko: fixed (that was alacarte) | 03:05 |
| Amaranth | eh? | 03:05 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: bug #79545 | 03:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79545 in alacarte "cannot launch from terminal" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79545 | 03:07 |
| siretart | Mithrandir: doko: could anyone of you look why http://librarian.launchpad.net/5726711/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.python-debian_0.1.0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz FTBFS? - I think it is not a problem in the package but on the buildd | 03:07 |
| Amaranth | seb128: oh, that | 03:08 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: doko changed alacarte to build with PYTHON=python (non versionned) | 03:08 |
| Amaranth | i just noticed that, actually | 03:08 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: I changed it to PYTHON=/usr/bin/python | 03:08 |
| Amaranth | yeah, it put a space in the shebang | 03:08 |
| Amaranth | or did i do that? :) | 03:08 |
| Mithrandir | siretart: you need to build-depend on python-dev | 03:08 |
| Amaranth | either way, cool, fixed :) | 03:08 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: is "#!python" correct? | 03:08 |
| Amaranth | no | 03:08 |
| seb128 | ok | 03:09 |
| seb128 | then my change to /usr/bin/python is correct ;) | 03:09 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 03:09 |
| siretart | Mithrandir: err, so the package built in debian by sheer luck?! | 03:09 |
| Amaranth | btw, one problem with the change to gnome-control-center | 03:09 |
| siretart | or is there someting special in feisty's python? | 03:09 |
| Mithrandir | siretart: unsure, but this is not a problem on the buildd, it's a bug in the package. Just build-depend on python-dev | 03:10 |
| Amaranth | if someone changed/added things with alacarte they'll get incomplete Preferences and Administration menus along with the control center item | 03:10 |
| siretart | Mithrandir: okay, willdo. thanks | 03:10 |
| cjwatson | seb128: #! /usr/bin/env python is commonplace too | 03:11 |
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| Riddell | enrico: do you have any ideas about this debtags build failure? it seems to be missing some includes https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/282888 | 03:11 |
| Riddell | enrico: I think LIBEPT_CFLAGS isn't being defined | 03:11 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: you have time to fix that before feisty ;) | 03:11 |
| seb128 | cjwatson: right | 03:11 |
| Amaranth | seb128: the fix would be to remove files from ever user's $HOME | 03:12 |
| Amaranth | seb128: not a good idea | 03:12 |
| Amaranth | every* | 03:12 |
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| Riddell | StevenK: or maybe you know? | 03:14 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: hum, no, not really :/ | 03:14 |
| Amaranth | seb128: or you could change settings.menu to some other name so ~/.config/menus/settings.menu doesn't merge with it | 03:15 |
| Amaranth | that's gnome-menus stuff | 03:15 |
| seb128 | right, would be nice to do upstream though | 03:15 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 03:15 |
| Amaranth | there is a valid reason for keeping the same name though | 03:16 |
| Amaranth | compatibility with 3rd party changes (like alacarte's) | 03:16 |
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| enrico | Riddell: let's see | 03:27 |
| enrico | Riddell: /build/buildd/debtags-1.6.6ubuntu1/./configure: line 19555: LIBTAGCOLL2_DEFS: command not found | 03:30 |
| enrico | /build/buildd/debtags-1.6.6ubuntu1/./configure: line 19556: LIBEPT_DEFS: command not found | 03:30 |
| enrico | Riddell: whoever run automake on the package didn't have libtagcoll2 and libept installed | 03:30 |
| enrico | (well, libtagcoll2-dev and libept-dev) | 03:31 |
| enrico | Riddell: because those packages provide the m4 macro files that are used to expand those _DEFS entries in the configure.ac | 03:31 |
| enrico | Riddell: but this isn't a problem of build-dependencies: it's a problem of when the .orig.tar.gz has been made | 03:32 |
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| Riddell | enrico: so I could try with the .tar.gz from debian | 03:39 |
| Riddell | enrico: ah, rerunning autogen seems to have helped, many thanks | 03:43 |
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| enrico | Riddell: you're welcome | 03:50 |
| Riddell | Mithrandir: could you give back mailody on powerpc please | 03:51 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:53 |
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| Mithrandir | Riddell: given-back | 04:07 |
| Riddell | Mithrandir: could you give back kdemultimedia too, libtunepimp should be in the archive now | 04:11 |
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| Mithrandir | Riddell: given-back | 04:11 |
| Riddell | thanks | 04:12 |
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| doko | seb128: thanks | 04:19 |
| seb128 | doko: np ;) | 04:19 |
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| pirast | slomo, could you have a look at bug 79557 (about backporting)? | 04:29 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79557 in sword "Please backport sword-1.5.9 from Feisty to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79557 | 04:29 |
| Mithrandir | pirast: I'll reject it, it should be fixed in a stable release update. | 04:33 |
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| pirast | Mithrandir, okay.. :-( | 04:36 |
| Mithrandir | why the :-( ? | 04:36 |
| pirast | Mithrandir, Misunderstood what you meant with "it should be fixed in a stable release update".. What do you mean with that? | 04:37 |
| Mithrandir | pirast: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU | 04:37 |
| pirast | Mithrandir, okay.. | 04:42 |
| doko | dholbach: you're not a C++ developer, only 1GB RAM, fix it! | 04:50 |
| dholbach | doko: I know I'm not :) | 04:50 |
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| davmor2 | quick query is todays 32 bit gossip-telepathy going to be made available for 64bit systems? | 04:57 |
| tepsipakki | Mithrandir: now I know why ubuntu-archive was subscribed to those sync-requests.. because requestsync does that for you, MOTU or not :) | 04:59 |
| dholbach | davmor2: it didn't build yesterday because the chroot wasn't ready | 05:00 |
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| dholbach | davmor2: it built today: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gossip-telepathy/0.23~svn20070116-0ubuntu1 | 05:00 |
| dholbach | davmor2: so nothing to worry about | 05:01 |
| davmor2 | so probably on the servers tomorrow then? | 05:01 |
| dholbach | "in a bit" i guess | 05:02 |
| dholbach | davmor2: http://librarian.launchpad.net/5767440/gossip-telepathy_0.23%7Esvn20070116-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb if you need it urgently | 05:03 |
| davmor2 | thanks I just like to use gossip over gaim. It has it's downsides (like not being able to type /join ....) but ease of use seems nicer than gaim. | 05:05 |
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| davmor2 | just arrived on the server anyway thanks | 05:06 |
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| geser | Mithrandir: please give-back wxwidgets2.6 on amd64. thanks | 05:31 |
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| doko | pitti: could you extend dh_clean, so that the debug packages that you build are cleaned as well? | 05:44 |
| pitti | doko: hm, it should automatically clean up after itself in dh_strip already | 05:45 |
| pitti | doko: if it doesn't can you please file a bug with the package that this happens with? | 05:46 |
| doko | pitti: just seen in glom (the version I uploaded) | 05:47 |
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| pitti | Riddell: oh, how convenient; the changed method in the xpdf source is private | 05:50 |
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| Riddell | handy | 05:51 |
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| doko | Mithrandir, Riddell: any known installation problems with libqt3-mt-dev on ia64? | 06:07 |
| Riddell | doko: I see that kdemultimedia failed to build on ia64 only because it couldn't install kdelibs, I don't have a machine to look into why | 06:10 |
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| pitti | Riddell: oh, care to upload all the koffice and kpdf packages? | 06:27 |
| pitti | Riddell: I need them relatively soon in order to publish them still today, and I'll be on vac from tomorrow on | 06:28 |
| Riddell | pitti: doing | 06:28 |
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| \sh | Mithrandir: syncing from debian experimental is possible, right? | 06:38 |
| cjwatson | \sh: yes, we can sync from anything with a Sources file | 06:38 |
| \sh | cjwatson: thx. | 06:39 |
| pitti | Riddell: kdegraphics arrived, but no koffice | 06:48 |
| Riddell | pitti: 1 koffice is up, 2 still to go | 06:49 |
| Riddell | debuild -S takes a long time on koffice | 06:49 |
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| tkamppeter | pitti, ping | 06:52 |
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| Riddell | pitti: all up | 07:01 |
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| pitti | tkamppeter: hi! I'm semi-away from my computer ATM, will return and answer scrollback soon | 07:04 |
| pitti | Riddell: great | 07:04 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, I have my home ADSL now, so I will come to the IRC more often again. | 07:08 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, how is it going with printerdrake? Was the info which I provided helpful? Feel free to ask me if you need more help. | 07:09 |
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| seb128 | Mithrandir: could you sync serpentine (bug #79611), the current package doesn't work due to the python transition | 07:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79611 in serpentine "Please sync serpentine (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79611 | 07:41 |
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| niktaris | cjwatson, hi | 08:00 |
| cjwatson | niktaris: hi | 08:00 |
| niktaris | cjwatson, long time no see. hope all is Ok. (no questions tonight :)) | 08:01 |
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| jwendell | pitti, language packs for feisty are outdated, right? | 08:26 |
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| cjwatson | blink, this hardware detection hang is weird - I hadn't seen it up close and personal before | 08:39 |
| cjwatson | udevsettle seems to be causing udevd to sit and swivel | 08:40 |
| cjwatson | and spawn lots of [kstopmachine] kernel threads | 08:40 |
| pitti | jwendell: right, I'm still waiting for Rosetta to export feisty packs | 08:45 |
| pitti | tkamppeter_: ah, great; how was the moving? | 08:45 |
| pitti | tkamppeter_: I did't touch printerdrake recently | 08:45 |
| jwendell | pitti, and your repository? is it feisty ready? | 08:46 |
| pitti | jwendell: yup, as soon as Rosetta exports a tarball, I'll build dailies | 08:46 |
| pitti | jwendell: and of course upload them to feisty ASAP | 08:46 |
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| jwendell | pitti, so, is there a bug in rosetta? | 08:49 |
| pitti | jwendell: well, it's certainly not 'right' that it takes so long | 08:49 |
| pitti | jwendell: but I don't know the details | 08:49 |
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| seb128 | pitti: rosetta will need to know about feisty first, that's still not the case :/ | 08:55 |
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| pitti | seb128: carlos told me Friday that they would shut down daily exports to open feisty, so I'm hopeful :) | 08:57 |
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| seb128 | pitti: he told me this morning that they will probably open it this week or next week | 08:58 |
| carlos | pitti: unfortunatelly, I'm a bit behind my schedule on that testing... I hope tomorrow we will know the exact date we will have that done (anytime between this week and next week) | 08:58 |
| pitti | carlos: next week would be great, I'm on vac tomorrow | 08:58 |
| carlos | if you, the distro team doesn't have any important milestone this week, it should happen this week (or at least I hope it) | 08:59 |
| jwendell | pitti, when you back? | 08:59 |
| pitti | jwendell: yes, when we're at the distro sprint | 09:00 |
| carlos | pitti: oh, right, the distro sprint... | 09:00 |
| carlos | is it next week? | 09:00 |
| mdz | mjg59: ping | 09:01 |
| simira | carlos: yes | 09:01 |
| seb128 | carlos: yep, next week | 09:01 |
| carlos | so either we open feisty for translations this week or we wait for the week after the sprint (we need to shutdown launchpad for a couple of hours, and I don't think is a good idea when you are using it a lot) | 09:02 |
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| seb128 | I would say that shutting it for some hours during european night time would be fine | 09:03 |
| seb128 | carlos: we are not likely to work during the night during the sprint | 09:03 |
| seb128 | and distro team will be at european time | 09:04 |
| carlos | seb128: ok, anyway, I will try to get it done this week | 09:04 |
| carlos | I need to leave now | 09:04 |
| seb128 | good | 09:04 |
| carlos | enjoy! | 09:04 |
| seb128 | have a nice evening | 09:04 |
| carlos | thank you. Same for you | 09:04 |
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| jwendell | where do i find information about that 'distro sprint'? | 09:06 |
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| simira | jwendell: I don't thing there's any official info about it, actually. Just that it is. | 09:07 |
| pitti | jwendell: it's mainly about the distro team coming together for a week to hack on finishing features | 09:07 |
| pitti | jwendell: it's mainly an internal event, no exciting things for guests, etc. | 09:07 |
| jwendell | ah, thanks | 09:07 |
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| sistpoty | Mithrandir: can you do me a favor and sync of wordpress? (bug #79171) | 09:11 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79171 in wordpress "please sync wordpress (2.0.6-1) from unstable/main to universe" [High,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79171 | 09:11 |
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| geser | mdz: we should now change the maintainer field in source packages. should original-maintainer also appear in the .dsc or only in the debs? | 09:20 |
| tonyyarusso | pitti: If you have a moment, I was wondering if you could look over the piece I just wrote for the UWN (to be released tomorrow), on the process for promoting packages to main. It's at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue28#head-5ef344ed8ef53d09966947d336183d9fd74e31fc. Any feedback or corrections would be great! | 09:25 |
| pitti | tonyyarusso: I'll look in some minutes | 09:25 |
| tonyyarusso | pitti: Thanks. | 09:25 |
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| pitti | carlos: can you please have a look at bug 79589? any idea why files disappeared from the tarball? | 09:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79589 in language-pack-gnome-es "language-pack-gnome-es not fully translated" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79589 | 09:32 |
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| saispo | anyone can explain me what /usr/sbin/gnome-pty-helper do ? | 09:35 |
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| seb128 | doko_: what package is responsive to changing python to point to the new default version? | 09:58 |
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| mvo | seb128: the source package is python-defaults iirc | 10:04 |
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| pitti | tonyyarusso: sounds great in principle, just some thoughts | 10:06 |
| tonyyarusso | pitti: Listening. | 10:06 |
| pitti | tonyyarusso: first, please drop the part with mailing ubuntu-devel@ | 10:06 |
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| pitti | tonyyarusso: usually it's just noise, and I'll start a discussion if I deem a package not appropriate | 10:06 |
| tonyyarusso | pitti: Ah, okay. | 10:06 |
| pitti | tonyyarusso: also, the 'sit back and wait' could be augmented with sth. like 'if it's urgent and you feel forgotten, poke pitti in #ubuntu-devel' :) | 10:07 |
| tonyyarusso | noted | 10:07 |
| pitti | tonyyarusso: great, I'm looking forward to the newxt UWN | 10:08 |
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| tonyyarusso | pitti: Me too :) Thanks for your time. | 10:08 |
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| shawarma | saispo: /win 2 | 10:38 |
| shawarma | Doh... sorry. | 10:38 |
| shawarma | saispo: gnome-pty-helper creates pty's for libzvt2. why? | 10:38 |
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| shawarma | Would it be possible to bribe someone to look at a request of mine in the request tracker? Be warned: It's got to do with mailman. :-) | 10:51 |
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| somerville32 | shawarma, Ask in #canonical-sysadmin | 10:55 |
| shawarma | somerville32: On my way. Thanks. | 10:55 |
| somerville32 | np | 10:55 |
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