[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> yea that's me hogging the wiki
[12:12] <somerville32> Burgundavia, Did anyone ever tell you I finished that script?
[12:17] <nixternal> jenda: pong
[12:18] <jenda> nixternal: unping ;)
[12:18] <nixternal> jenda: unpong :)
[12:18] <somerville32> Admiral_Chicago, I see what screws it up
[12:18] <jenda> nixternal: unless you want to read what I have so far of the diy material guidelines
[12:18] <jenda> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite/Guidelines
[12:18] <jenda> in which case, ping ;)
[12:18] <nixternal> i will check it in 2 minutes :)
[12:18] <jenda> kk 
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> what is it?
[12:19] <somerville32> egroupware lists a ton of binaries but only lists one under descriptions
[12:19] <somerville32> This unexpected.
[12:19] <somerville32> However, I have a work around.
[12:19] <somerville32> Another nasty hack :)
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> my computer went nuts. somerville32 make the changes and document it
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> then I'll write up a change log
[12:31] <somerville32> btw, this is the hackery:                 if [email[index + indexAddition + 1] ] [0] [0]  is not " ":
[12:31] <somerville32>                     bre
[12:31] <somerville32> +ak
[12:32] <tsmithe> that is terrible hackery!!!!
[12:32] <tsmithe> indexAddition :P
[12:37] <somerville32> :D
[12:38] <Mez> see - I am here!"
[12:38] <Mez> bye
[12:49] <jenda> hehe
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> to anyone working on UWN. My computer is crashing at an alarming speed, I'm sorry I can't help you all
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> somerville32: computer is crashing real hard core
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> so i can't help with UWN
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i think I need a new motherboard, the issue is booting my computer's HDD. I've had this problem before so I'm on a LiveCD now
[02:09] <meatballhat> Admiral_Chicago: I just had a HDD start squeakin' like a mouse last week ... reeeeeal disconcerting :-D ....   LiveCD's are a lifesaver, to be sure
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> meatballhat: yea i used a liveCD for a good two weeks when I didn't have any working computers
[02:12] <meatballhat> Admiral_Chicago: Two Weeks??!?  ....  you're a sight braver (and more patient) than I ....  B-)
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> well then again, it was the porblem with the faulty HDD drive
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> luckily I get to get back to my [semi] stable Feisty system
[02:14] <somerville32> Feisty isn't acting nice for me
[02:15] <somerville32> If the network gets disconnect, it'll Kernel panic on me
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> it did that to me as well
[02:17] <somerville32> Ok
[02:17] <somerville32> Admiral_Chicago, Really??? :)
[02:19] <somerville32> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/78841
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> somerville32: irssi on a tty. can you email it to me? freddymartinez9@gmail.com
[02:22] <somerville32> If you're on a ttty, just copy and paste into a file in another tty
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, who was working on the DIY marketing?
[02:22] <meatballhat> Admiral_Chicago: that'd be myself, beuno, and jenda
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> well i'll just grab the number and search for it.
[02:23] <Admiral_Chicago> meatballhat: i would add example or "Good" logos and "bad" logos
[02:23] <meatballhat> good idea:  it's kinda what jenda started to put into writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite/Guidelines
[02:24] <meatballhat> we're really trying to reign in the "splitting" factor and show folks that one can be wonderfully creative while still retaining the brand in its full glory
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> that's what I'm looking at now
[02:25] <meatballhat> the point is simple:  [COF]  ubuntu   <--- this needs to become a *much* more common sight in the mainstream
[02:25] <meatballhat> Admiral_Chicago: if you're willing, I'd love it if you'd add your thoughts to the wiki page :)
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> well I have it in my inbox, I'll star it and look at in when I can use a computer.
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> I agree, I'll add a feedback section to the wiki
[02:27] <meatballhat> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks much!
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> meatballhat: [COF] ?
[02:29] <meatballhat> tonyyarusso: Circel Of Friends  :)
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> ah
[02:29] <meatballhat> oops ... *Circle
[02:35] <somerville32> The lock of Freddy Martinez timed out 126 minute(s) ago, and you were granted the lock for this page. Other users will be warned until 2007-01-15 21:44:49 that you are editing this page. Use the Preview button to extend the locking period.
[02:35] <somerville32> I'm uploading the Feisty Changes
[02:35] <somerville32> I hope you don't have anything unsaved Freddy boy
[02:39] <somerville32> I'm going to delay the release of UWN 28 until Wednesday night (please add all new articles to UWN 29)
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> no, nothing important Cody
[02:40] <somerville32> The only changes that may be made to UWN 28 are feisty changes, tonyyarusso's section, and corrections.
[02:40] <somerville32> Anything else must be approved by myself
[02:40] <somerville32> If in doubt, put it in UWN 29
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> alright, sounds good. let me know when you're done with Feisty changes
[02:41] <somerville32> They are copied and pasted in
[02:41] <somerville32> People can start working on them ASAP
[02:41] <somerville32> Jenda: You can update the trivia section
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> working on the wiki?
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> I'll take the top 5, edit in gedit
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> Admiral_Chicago: No, I'm in gedit.
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> wiki should be free once somerville32's done
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> tonyyaruss, somerville32: okay I won't use the wiki, mostly because I don't know if I'll be on for long
[02:49] <somerville32> We could transfer to gobby
[02:50] <somerville32> but I gotta go super soon
[02:50] <somerville32> Snow storm and things need shovelling 
[02:51] <somerville32> Ok
[02:51] <somerville32> Done with wiki
[02:52] <somerville32> ok
[02:52] <somerville32> saved
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> should we just move to gobby? I think that would be far easier to use
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> no problems of a wiki lock / my computer blowing up
[02:54] <somerville32> Sure :)
[02:55] <somerville32> Ok
[02:55] <somerville32> Document created on Gobby server
[02:56] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, Please copy it over.
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: what is the server these days?
[02:56] <somerville32> ubuntu.juliux.de 6523
[03:05] <Admiral_Chicago> are we on gobby? info anyone
[03:05] <somerville32> ubuntu.juliux.de 6523
[03:15] <rjian> somerville32: can i join also? ehehhe
[03:15] <somerville32> Yup
[03:15] <somerville32> Everyone is welcome to come help with Feisty Changes :)
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> back, should have no problems now. somerville32 ping. login info for gobby?
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> Admiral_Chicago: ubuntu.julius.de 6523
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> *ux
[04:01] <rjian> is everyone on the bat cave?
[04:01] <rjian> hehe
[04:01] <somerville32> Yup
[04:01] <somerville32> Now login and get to work
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> okay thanks, I need to fix my sources first
[04:01] <somerville32> :)
[04:01] <rjian> ok 
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago>  somerville32 are you sure it's not juliux
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago> yes it is
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: Oh, btw - remembering your memo.  Sorry 'bout that, but the box just crashed and burned on me something awful.  I did my best, but it had to come down.
[04:16] <somerville32> :] 
[04:24] <somerville32> k
[04:24] <somerville32> I'm going to go to bed
[04:24] <somerville32> :)
[04:56] <rjian> wats the new server for gobby?
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> rjian: ubuntu.juliux.de
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> 6523
[04:58] <rjian> thnx tonyyarusso 
[04:59] <rjian> tonyyarusso:  the pass?
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> rjian: ufl@ftw
[04:59] <rjian> aw.. hehe ok
[05:40] <beuno> anyone around?
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> beuno: barely
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> li'l ol' me, and sometimes rjian
[05:41] <beuno> where should I edit UWN 28?
[05:41] <beuno> wiki or gobby?
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> beuno: Gobby
[05:41] <beuno> flw@ftw?
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> s/flw/ufl/
[05:44] <beuno> i juliux server?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> ya
[05:45] <beuno> ok ok, got the pass from the wiki
[05:46] <beuno> hmmm, feisty packages...
[06:25] <rjian> :)
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> I think I'm done
[08:36] <jenda> juliux: pong
[08:37] <juliux> hi jenda 
[08:37] <jenda> good morning
[08:37] <juliux> jenda, we will take 100% also kubuntu stickers
[08:37] <juliux> hh yes good morning, or bad morning
[08:38] <jenda> ooh :(
[08:38] <jenda> ok, great stuff, juliux
[08:38] <jenda> I hope I'll have the price soon
[08:39] <juliux> i have to talk about web2.0
[08:44] <juliux> an away
[11:53] <WaterSevenUb> NOTICE: UWN 28 release has been postponed to December 17th, 2006 to facilitate the completion of this issue ?
[11:53] <WaterSevenUb> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 28 for the week December 8th - 14th, 2007. ?
[01:43] <juliux> hi all
[01:52] <lotusleaf> juliux: hello
[02:25] <willvdl> Following on from BECTA reports: http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/9045
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: I got my bit done for UWN - feel free to take a look/edit.  Off to class now though.
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: ping
[09:19] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, pong-a-dee-pong
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: See my bit yet?
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: Seems pitti is online to - should I ask him if he'd like to look it over?
[09:21] <somerville32> But pitti doesn't approve MIRs, I don't think
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: He reads all of them at least I'm told, since he covers security?
[09:23] <somerville32> Oh, that might be true
[09:23] <Burgundavia> somerville32: pitti has approved most of them
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> I'll see if he has a minute.
[09:23] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, I'm sure he'd be happy to help you out
[09:32] <somerville32> Burgundavia, What  do you think about rethinking the ubuntu marketing team membership model?
[09:32] <somerville32> It seems like a lot of people join
[09:32] <somerville32> but do a lot of of people actually *do* anything?
[09:35] <Burgundavia> I don't see any danger is people joining without doing anything, really
[09:36] <jenda> somerville32: well, I did something along your line of thought previously, but it was cancelled as soon as I took vacation ;) It doesn't seem to be too popular.
[09:36] <Burgundavia> thing is, nuking people off the team who are doing nothing is far worse, as it leads to people squawking and thus us getting no work, ever, from them
[09:37] <somerville32> We don't need to retroactively apply the policy
[09:37] <somerville32> But we could setup an expiry date
[09:37] <Burgundavia> we tried that
[09:37] <Burgundavia> it didn't work
[09:37] <Burgundavia> look in the marketing team list archives
[09:37] <somerville32> Ok
[09:38] <Burgundavia> it is an interesting idea, but ultimately one which fails on the shoals of humanity
[09:38] <Burgundavia> clearly we need more robots in the marketing team
[09:40] <jenda> Burgundavia: I don't want to stir the issue, but how didn't the expiry date work?
[09:40] <jenda> We have expiry on ubuntu membership, you know...
[09:42] <Burgundavia> yes, but that is clear
[09:42] <Burgundavia> basically, they set it up
[09:42] <Burgundavia> and then when peoepl started expiring, they thought it was because we didn't want them anymore
[09:42] <Burgundavia> and a few emailed the list to tell us of that
[09:43] <jenda> aha, that's true.
[09:43] <Burgundavia> again, check the archive
[09:43] <jenda> I remember it.
[10:12] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, +1
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> :)
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> I'll get to those changes after our game of teg.
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: How's the rest doing?
[10:14] <somerville32> the rest?
[10:14] <somerville32> lol
[10:14] <somerville32> oh!!!
[10:14] <somerville32> the rest!
[10:14] <somerville32> lol
[10:14] <somerville32> Feisty changes needs doing
[10:14] <MenZa> jenda: I want him too
[10:15] <MenZa> I need to know how long it'll take for the second batch to be ready
[10:15] <MenZa> appx.
[10:15] <jenda> MenZa: batch of?
[10:15] <jenda> shirts?
[10:15] <MenZa> yup
[10:15] <jenda> the ones with pockets?
[10:15] <jenda> Logo on pocket, or facing pocket?
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> I want one of the hoodies from cafe..whatever
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> press?
[10:16] <MenZa> Cafepress.
[10:16] <MenZa> And they suck in quality
[10:16] <MenZa> jenda: logo on pocket
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: Really?  The pics look good on the site, but I'd never asked anyone.
[10:17] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: quality-wise
[10:17] <MenZa> And the "pics" are rendered
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: Shoot.
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> d
[10:17] <MenZa> It fades quickly
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Then maybe I'll need one of these ones.
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> pics?
[10:18] <jenda> diy.devubuntu.com/polo.jpg
[10:18] <jenda> i believe...
[10:18] <MenZa> Linux alice.nipl.net 2.6.16.13-xen #1 SMP Fri Sep 29 18:18:01 PDT 2006 i686
[10:18] <MenZa> You can install packages using "inst", and add a new user with "newuser".
[10:18] <MenZa> Last login: Tue Jan 16 07:02:37 2007 from 0x50a116ef.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk
[10:18] <MenZa> wtf.
[10:19] <jenda> hehe
[10:19] <jenda> I had the /cs m MenZa ready :)
[10:19] <jenda> thought you accidentaly pasted a flood.
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> nice
[10:19] <MenZa> ah
[10:19] <MenZa> nah, that's all I had
[10:19] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: it's blue though
[10:19] <jenda> I'ts blue... and gorgeous.
[10:19] <MenZa> http://menza.org/random/menza_shirt.png
[10:19] <MenZa> :)
[10:19] <jenda> Tough quality, embroidered logo... just great stuff.
[10:19] <MenZa> I look horribly skinny in that pic
[10:20] <MenZa> it is
[10:20] <MenZa> I'd like a black one next
[10:20] <jenda> MenZa: you looked horribly skinny in RL as well ;)
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> What would shipping be to CA or US?
[10:20] <MenZa> jenda: this is worse :o
[10:20] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: not much
[10:20] <MenZa> From Germany... appx. $8
[10:20] <MenZa> I /think/
[10:20] <jenda> about that, yep
[10:21] <MenZa> jenda: liking yours?
[10:21] <MenZa> :)
[10:21] <jenda> MenZa: I liked it so much I bought a second one ;)
[10:21] <MenZa> I should too
[10:21] <MenZa> But I really want one with a pocket 
[10:21] <MenZa> atm I'm sticking pens at the buttons
[10:22] <jenda> Ah, you're the pen-in-pocket geek ;)
[10:22] <jenda> MenZa: I've long since stopped using pens :)
[10:22] <somerville32> [17:21]  <LaserJock> we need something better than UWN <-- Pfft.
[10:22] <MenZa> Won't leave home without one.
[10:22] <jenda> pfft!
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> I put pens in the buttons too
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: ask for suggestions?
[10:23] <jenda> somerville32: point me at him! where is he... I... will... kill...
[10:23] <jenda> ;)
[10:23] <jenda> somerville32: no seriously, what does he have to say?
[10:23] <MenZa> it's not :(
[10:23] <BHSPitLappy> MenZa, I have a pocket protector over here, if you need one.
[10:23] <MenZa> Pocket protector, eh?
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> Oh please be kidding
[10:23] <BHSPitLappy> yeah
[10:24] <somerville32> lol
[10:24] <BHSPitLappy> my physics teacher gave one to all of us just before the holiday break
[10:24] <BHSPitLappy> as gifts
[10:24] <BHSPitLappy> funny guy
[10:25] <MenZa> I don't even know what a pocket protector is
[10:25] <MenZa> oooh
[10:25] <MenZa> those
[10:25] <MenZa> *craves*
[10:25] <BHSPitLappy> sounds about high time you learn!
[10:25] <MenZa> I want one with a tux on it
[10:25] <MenZa> Tux*
[10:26] <somerville32> jenda: Can you update the trivia stuff in Gobby now?
[10:26] <BHSPitLappy> MenZa, yeah. That'd be -real- cool.
[10:26] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, After I'm done with this MOTU meeting and dinner then we'll finish Feisty changes.
[10:26] <jenda> somerville32: barely, but I can try :)
[10:26] <somerville32> Feel free to get started w/o me ;] 
[10:26] <MenZa> BHSPitLappy: :D
[10:26] <jenda> somerville32: ubuntu.juliux.de?
[10:26] <BHSPitLappy> or a pocket protector with the entire source to the linux kernel printed on it.
[10:27] <BHSPitLappy> even cooler.
[10:27] <MenZa> http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~squadron/pocketp.gif <- BHSPitLappy
[10:27] <somerville32> Burgundavia, jenda: Would it also be possible for you to forward me new member join notifications for ubuntu-marketing so I can bug them to help out with UWN?
[10:28] <Burgundavia> hmm, why don't we make you an admin?
[10:28] <Burgundavia> jenda: any concerns?
[10:29] <jenda> Burgundavia: not at all
[10:29] <Burgundavia> ok, will do
[10:29] <somerville32> Awesome.
[10:29] <somerville32> Sounds good.
[10:30] <Burgundavia> he hasn't been active in a long while
[10:30] <Burgundavia> want to email him and ask him if he sitll wants to be interested?
[10:31] <Burgundavia> somerville32: done
[10:31] <jenda> Burgundavia: I actually talked to him about four months ago, and he didn't seem to be too interested.
[10:31] <somerville32> Burgundavia, Thanks
[10:31] <Burgundavia> ah
[10:32] <jenda> err... not four... must've been more like 7 ;)
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy> hey, who's using GNOME here?
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy> try out this bug
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy> take an application launcher on your gnome panel... click on it, and drag it onto itself... two times in a row.
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy> when I say click on it, I don't mean to open it.
[10:35] <BHSPitLappy> oh, NOW the channel dies.
[10:40] <jenda> haha
[10:40] <jenda> BHSPitLappy: yep :)
[10:40] <jenda> we're all gone.
[10:40] <jenda> But the bug ain't.
[10:40] <BHSPitLappy> no, it isn't
[10:44] <MenZa> http://menza.org/random/penkthnx.png
[10:44] <MenZa> :d
[10:46] <BHSPitLappy> k?
[11:12] <MenZa> k.