[12:14] /etc/schroot/setup.d/10mount does it if run-setup-scripts is set to true for this schroot === Lutin_ [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] tsmithe: versioning would be 1.0.14~rc1-0ubuntu1 [12:33] hmm [12:33] ok === tsmithe fixes [12:34] tsmithe: jaroslav just tagged 1.0.14rc2, so I'd wait a day or so til those tarballs are available [12:34] hmmok [12:34] *ok [12:34] thanks [12:34] anything to say about alsa-tools? [12:34] cos i'm off to do an english essay - leave me a pm if there is === Lutin_ [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] tsmithe: nothing conspicuous; remember to regenerate against 1.0.14rc2 [12:40] sure thing [12:40] thanks === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ttyfscker_ [n=bastard@75.117.210.29] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] ... [12:59] hey imbrandon [12:59] heya zul [01:00] hrm, irssi shows mirc colors ? wow [01:01] you're surprised? === magnon [n=co@po-dhcp2.ping.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] hello magnon [01:01] well kinda, been using it a few months now and this seems to be the first time i have seen it [01:01] LaserJock, hey! [01:02] hi luisbg [01:03] hi imbrandon, did you ever get around to finishing looking through the mythtv packaging? [01:03] LaserJock, can you check something for me? === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] ahh yea , matter of fact i need to install that compile i made and test it [01:03] i made one or two small cahnges [01:04] luisbg: what is it? [01:04] i think i pusghed them back to bzr [01:04] if not i will in a few [01:04] ill update my local copy and see the changes then [01:04] k [01:05] if the bzr for ubuntu studio is correct now... https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio [01:06] imbrandon, it looks like its at revision 13 still which is the last one i left it at on bzr [01:06] (at least for mythtv) (mythplugins is at revision 4) [01:09] k i'll push now [01:09] k === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] luisbg: it looks ok, if bzr will let me branch I'll tell you more === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] hrm [01:13] will let you branch? [01:13] luisbg: looks good to me [01:13] luisbg: bzr kills my DSL router [01:13] ouch [01:13] yeah [01:13] I have a hard time using bzr from home [01:13] a branch works about every 1 in 5 times [01:13] btw... seen the bug you can't delete registered series? [01:14] yes, that's always been there [01:14] you can get an LP admin to get rid of it though, I think [01:14] iirc not a bug, you cant delete anything from LP [01:14] your "looks good to me?" is with one of those 5 times it worked or should I wait for a more detailed look? [01:14] luisbg: I got it [01:14] cool [01:14] more dew, brb [01:14] thanks man! [01:14] know any LP admin? would like to ask him to delete that for me [01:15] #launchpad ;) [01:15] luisbg: I think you guys could put a file in the root of the branch with the URL of the tarball === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] LaserJock, ok [01:15] will tell the owners [01:15] of the stuff in the bzr [01:16] lifeless: do you know if bzr > 0.11 makes less DNS lookups? === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] crimsun: For bitpim, no Ubuntu changes are preserved. The changelog should still be preserved? === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] LaserJock, thanks for the go-ahead :) [01:18] well, you guys certianly don't need my permission ;-) [01:18] I just thought it would help you out later on [01:19] LaserJock, thanks again [01:19] before making all upload just wanted to check they have a good basis to do so [01:19] if not... would be double the work later on [01:21] persia: it has to be a merge, because there's an existing Ubuntu delta, and you attest there are necessary changes [01:21] LaserJock: should [01:22] crimsun: The necessary changes are all mine, for this update. I started with a pristine Debian source, as I agree with Adri2000 that a sync would work, but for the ctypes change. [01:23] lifeless: ok cool, my DSL router still seems to not like bzr. I'll grab the latest bzr === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] persia: I'm not sure what your question is. There's an existing delta, and there will be an existing delta. You don't simply drop previous changelog entries when that's the case. [01:27] crimsun: OK. I'll update, with the old changelog entries. I'll note that I'm dropping all previous Ubuntu changes there. [01:27] persia: you don't need to note that, but you do need to retain the changelog entries [01:28] crimsun: I thought best practice was to list remaining Ubuntu changes during a merge. Now I'm confused. === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Albin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] persia: oh I see. Yes, that's correct. [01:30] crimsun: Which is correct? [01:30] listing changes [01:30] crimsun: OK. Thanks for the clarification. === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] ugh, this is ridiculous [01:36] everytime I go to clear the u-u-s queue, there's yet another bug [01:36] mhm [01:42] crimsun: you're too fast ! [01:42] no, you're too fast [01:42] this bug queue is ridiculous [01:42] it's keeping me from dinner, darn it. [01:42] (and sleep, but whatever) [01:43] crimsun: how do you do them? do you go down the line in email? [01:43] not sure to understand... [01:43] LaserJock: I poll +reportedbugs === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] LaserJock: it's essentially watch -n2 wget ... === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] lifeless: holy cow!!! bzr 0.13 is way faster than 0.11 [01:53] there, u-u-s queue cleared. [01:53] crimsun: +reportedbugs? [01:54] LaserJock: for the three most active reporters currently [01:54] u-u-s? [01:55] ubuntu-universe-sponsors [01:55] ubuntu-universe-sponsors [01:55] crimsun: ah [01:55] I wondered how you could keep track very well, I'm stuggling [01:56] crimsun: WOOT!!! [01:57] crimsun: Thank you so ever much. It's much more satisfying to contribute when the changes are adopted so amazingly quickly. [01:57] LaserJock: email's far too slow [01:58] crimsun, poll +reportbugs ? [01:58] hum [01:58] heya imbrandon [01:58] crimsun: surely we've got to have a better system than that :/ === Hobbsee pokes imbrandon over konversation debs a bit more === imbrandon runs [01:58] hehe [01:59] crimsun: we need more than the "one man sponsor" show ;-) === LongPointyStick attacks imbrandon [01:59] heh [01:59] LaserJock: true. but he does such a good job === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] Hobbsee: sure, but it's entirely unfair [01:59] LaserJock: yeah, i know. i try to do stuff on it too [02:00] so does bddebian [02:00] LaserJock: it's hardly one-man; at least four other people are knee-deep in it [02:01] crimsun's just the one who does most of it [02:02] oh there is a god ( other than crimsun ) http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/1/15/6629 === imbrandon weeps === crimsun pokes lionel about the merge and immediate sync of suphp [02:03] imbrandon: I'm no god; that's you, Jordan and Barry [02:04] I'm a mere peon === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] phsaw [02:04] +1 to that [02:05] man that thing is a work of art though, backlit nintendo wording, full game cart slot on the back, extra controller port, etc etc etc [02:05] see, even LaserJock agrees that I'm a peon :-) [02:05] no [02:06] I didn't [02:06] I agreed to imbrandon's phsaw [02:06] I seriously don't know how you can do them that fast though === LaserJock is slow [02:06] it's bug crack [02:07] Oh nifty [02:07] Linux bypasses the security features on my mp3 player by mounting it as a usb disk [02:07] heh === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === enyc waiting for the archive administratiors still... [02:20] for which? [02:20] The archives were pretty much cleaned out this morning [02:20] lol [02:20] s/archives/queue === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-40.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] Does anyone know the executable for the replacement of gnome-help-browser? [02:24] yelp [02:25] I would think [02:26] LaserJock: Thanks. That even seems to have roughly the same behaviour. (Packages should be updated at least once each year). [02:26] heh, and gnome wants to replace yelp sometime too [02:27] Project Mallard [02:30] LaserJock: Oooh! Of course, I'll have to learn all new things, but I hope for fewer annoying errors. [02:33] crimsun: so how come there are 109 subscribed bugs for u-u-s? [02:34] are we just waiting on ubuntu-archive? [02:34] LaserJock: a lot that are for debian? [02:35] some for sure [02:35] but there are quite a few "Unconfirmed" there for Ubuntu [02:35] LaserJock: there are more; I've unsubbed some [02:35] I just wondered if I was missing something [02:37] some are blocked on procedure [02:38] for instance, 47663 needs a correct debdiff and a clearer explanation of testing [02:38] ok, but any Ubuntu bug that's set to "Unconfirmed" should be up for grabs, right? [02:40] some like 45852 just seem to be targetted to the wrong source package [02:41] some like 53826 are missubscribed period [02:41] (git-core is main, not universe) === ivoks [n=ivoks@32-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] so the Unconfirmed marker is actually misleading [02:42] you have to drill down and read each bug [02:43] ok, what about 79308 and 78150 [02:43] bug 79308 [02:43] Malone bug 79308 in enigma "[Merge Request] Please merge enigma from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79308 [02:45] bug 78150 [02:45] Malone bug 78150 in kchmviewer "[Fesity MoM] Merge Kcmhviewer_2.7-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78150 === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] the former's processable, though I've not tested it [02:46] the latter should be reworked [02:46] ^^ nixternal === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] as for 77009, I'm not at all convinced it's correct === ajmitch mutters [02:48] I wonder why there's no cron job that alerted me to a degraded RAID array [02:48] Heya troop [02:49] crimsun: yeah, I'm not really sure of those ice* [02:49] We've been promoted! We're no longer only a gang! [02:49] I guess it wasn't added in sarge [02:49] bddebian: Hi [02:49] crimsun: what's wrong with kchmviewer debdiff, if you have time? [02:49] LaserJock: well, most of them are feasible, but a few make me twist my eyebrows, like the ->mozilla-browser bit [02:50] Heya persia [02:50] crimsun: yeah [02:50] LaserJock: a few of the changes are pretty superfluous (does debian/compat really need to be bumped?) [02:50] ok, yeah [02:51] zomg [02:52] imbrandon: what? [02:52] my little brother ( 26 years old , but still "little brother" ) just im'd me that he made a myspace [02:52] hmm === imbrandon looks at it [02:53] I still haven't figure out what exactly myspace does [02:53] imbrandon: mine's better :P [02:53] http://www.myspace.com/selfdestruct0420 [02:53] ^^ just as bad as the other peoples [02:53] wow, awesome crimsun and bddebian. We had 6 packages uploaded from REVU today [02:55] w00t === ajmitch gets hating on computers again [02:58] Heh [02:58] crimsun: LaserJock anyone doing bug 79308? the enigma one? [02:58] Malone bug 79308 in enigma "[Merge Request] Please merge enigma from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79308 [02:59] bddebian: ever want to be doing a random check of the system & notice that the RAID array with some data on it is in degraded mode, and has been for awhile? [02:59] Hobbsee: I was thinking of doing enigma, but if you want it fine. I'm got some other things I'm working on too [02:59] should be simple enough to readd the faulty device to the array & get it to start reconstructing, but still... [03:01] ajmitch: yep :-) [03:02] now, is it right that a _source.changes file is not good to leave around with public access but a binary .changes is ok? [03:03] since you can't do binary uploads to ubuntu, and debian will reject it if it's the wrong distro, it wouldn't affect quite as much [03:05] LaserJock: okay === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] Hmm, anyone think I should upload bug #54287 [03:07] Malone bug 54287 in libcm "version too old" [Wishlist,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54287 [03:09] And why is u-u-s assigned Main bugs? :) [03:10] Gah NM, I'm a crackhead [03:11] Eww [03:11] SURE, go ahead [03:11] :-) === Seeker` [n=Seeker@195-112-32-168.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:12] bddebian: because people are silly :P [03:13] crimsun: ? [03:14] bddebian: being facetious [03:15] crimsun: Ah. [03:16] how could you, crimsun? [03:16] I am getting ready to upload this sucker so speak now or forever hold your peace :-) === ajmitch speaks [03:20] And? [03:20] it's crap [03:20] What's crap? [03:20] you were talking about libcm === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] unless it's been updated properly since I last looked? [03:20] Yeah. It's already in the archive so how much more crap can a newer version be? :-) [03:21] on your head :) [03:21] fuck it then [03:22] !ohmy [03:22] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [03:22] feel free to ignore me, I'm not a developer === crimsun dips a toe in the ubuntuforum [03:24] ajmitch: Neither am I so what's your point? [03:25] oh you are === ajmitch will avoid commenting on any more packages [03:27] 79196 is simply baffling [03:27] ajmitch: I am? [03:28] crimsun: radeon driver with Intel graphics cards? [03:28] bddebian: last time I checked you were, as is ajmitch [03:29] bddebian: you asked and ajmitch gave a reply. If you feel OK with uploading it go for it [03:29] if not, don't ;-) [03:33] LaserJock: no, the bug stack is just baffling [03:34] I gotta deduce whether beryl/compiz, x11proto-render, or xorg-server is to blame [03:35] crimsun: stay away from the forums. they're bad! [03:36] crimsun: blame compiz [03:36] git-core is main right? [03:36] bddebian: ja [03:37] So why are we subscribed to: bug #53826 ? [03:37] Malone bug 53826 in git-core "contains a redundant copy of subprocess.py" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53826 [03:37] bddebian: see above ;) [03:37] crimsun: Did you upload catfish? [03:37] See above what? [03:37] no, Toadstool did [03:37] crimsun: I just got an e-mail saying Jrmie Corbier uploaded it [03:37] Is that Toadstool? [03:38] bddebian: [03:38] 20:41 < crimsun> some like 53826 are missubscribed period [03:38] 20:41 < crimsun> (git-core is main, not universe) [03:38] Oh, missed that, sorry [03:38] yes === somerville32 loves whois. [03:38] that 'redundant copy' is probably there so that git-core could have stuff working on python2.3 [03:39] something inherited from debian, I'd assume [03:41] I've finally gotten a new version of libjsw to work (although there is still one Debian bug, and an error if the envionment is funny). Following Hobbsee's guidance, I've uploaded to REVU, but I have yet to file a bug. What sort of bug should I file for a new upstream and some packaging fixes to address multiple other outstanding bugs? Do I need one at all? [03:41] just say that in the bug? [03:41] for reference, yes. include the link ot the revu package in the bug report [03:42] Hobbsee: Thanks. I'll file a "new upstream version" bug with the comments, link to REVU, and diff -Nur debian/. [03:42] persia: nice :) [03:42] persia: if you could attach the diff -Nur debian/. as a file, that'd be great. launchpad sucks for reading a diff === Hobbsee glares at tepsipakki [03:43] Hobbsee: Of course (persia has had enough fun with LP diffs). [03:43] hehe === Hobbsee hugs tepsipakki [03:43] crimsun: I guess I should give up trying to keep up with you eh? [03:44] ajmitch: Well Debian has 1.4.4.4 now anyhow === bddebian crawls back to gnumach === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.241.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] hmm, this might be a silly question, does /etc/hosts.{deny,allow} apply to incoming HTTP requests? [03:49] no [03:49] they are used by tcp wrappers (used by inetd) [03:49] or by any program that may wish to make use of them, like nfs [03:50] I don't think there's an apache module that uses them, though I may be wrong [03:50] k, thanks [03:53] hmm? someone said my nick? :) [03:54] heya everybody [03:54] hi Toadstool [03:54] hi ajmitch [03:58] Heya Toadstool === persia needs a new task. Any suggestions? [04:01] persia: there are still more bugs in malone [04:01] hey bddebian [04:02] Hobbsee: Yes, but most of them aren't organised into tasks yet. Oh well, I'll go back to reviewing bugs in packages I've touched and .desktop fixes. [04:03] :) [04:03] persia: i'm sure you can fix them [04:03] persia: you could do the unmet deps... [04:03] Hobbsee: Unmet deps. That'll work. Thanks :) [04:04] persia: you know how to generate them? [04:04] cool... no need to report the update-manager crasher :) [04:04] Hobbsee: LaserJock told me about 6 months back, but I don't remember offhand. [04:04] bddebian: Thanks again for all your help getting my packages in. They got approved and uploaded while you were on the way home. [04:05] ScottK: NP, thanks [04:05] Hobbsee: I've got it now. No worries. [04:05] persia: apt-cache unmet. apt-cache unmet | grep Package tends to work better though === persia works on a script to auto-madison and extract universe [04:06] hehe [04:06] apt-cache unmet works way nicer than that :P [04:08] Hobbsee: Huh? Is there an option to apt-cache I'm not seeing that only shows unmet deps for universe? [04:08] persia: not only in universe. most are in universe, of course. you can fix the main ones too [04:09] Hobbsee: Last time I tried to fix main, it was pushed upstream, and took four months to deploy (Categories checking for desktop-file-validate). I'll stick to universe: instant satisfaction. 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[06:42] LaserJock: no. i've assigned it to myself. the patch is fine, i just havent grabbed the debian source and uploaded it yet [06:46] Hobbsee: ok, just wanted to make sure somebody was doing something ;-) [06:47] LaserJock: :) === macogw [n=mack@161.253.10.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin_ [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-40.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-195.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-b1a358a811c60c56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seeker` [n=Seeker@195-112-32-168.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] Does anyone have a good example of a bug to remove a binary package from the archive (no longer built by a retained source), or know of documentation to create such a bug? [09:01] could some MOTU ack a couple of sync-requests? [09:02] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/farsight/+bug/79392 [09:02] Malone bug 79392 in farsight "Please sync farsight (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [09:02] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmail-notify/+bug/76752 [09:02] Malone bug 76752 in gmail-notify "Please sync gmail-notify (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:02] tepsipakki: Did you subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors? The queue is being tracked fairly closely these days. === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has left #ubuntu-motu ["adieu..."] [09:03] oh [09:03] I'll do that [09:04] tepsipakki: I understand that guidance documentation is under development, but the advised workflow is to only subscribe u-u-s to start, and they will subscribe u-a-a when they acknowledge the bug. [09:04] yep, I was advised about it a minute ago ;) [09:07] <\sh> moins === freeflying [i=flyingfr@205.196.222.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] <\sh> packages with unmet deps, can we still force an rebuild with XbuildY as version ? [09:24] \sh: skencil was last rebuilt as XbuildY 12th January, so there is precedent. === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7277C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] good morning [09:34] morning dholbach [09:34] heya ajmitch [09:34] hey LongPointyStick [09:34] hey dholbach, ajmitch [09:34] :) [09:34] uh oh === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-48-111.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] <\sh> ajmitch: would you do me a favour? please package PloneOOoTransform ,-) [09:39] <\sh> ugly piece of plone crap [09:42] heh [09:43] <\sh> how can someone run openoffice with xvfb on a server... === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:44] nasty === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] <\sh> ajmitch: check this http://plone.org/products/ploneoootransforms [09:48] <\sh> ajmitch:especially read the install.txt inside the source tar ball ,) === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch goes off to be sick [10:03] lucas: regarding utnubu, can you configure your scripts in a way so that they send a mail about new packages once a day to utnubu-discuss? === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch would think that daily is a bit much [10:06] <\sh> ajmitch: get well asap :) === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:11] <\sh> siretart: ping.boson-base ftbfs because of missing UTS_RELEASE (i thought setting linux-libc-dev will help, but it doesn't) [10:11] \sh: boson-base is gone in debian, and upstream is two versions ahead. === dous_ [n=dous@209.190.9.168] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] siretart: Is there a reason boson is out, or may I do a 0.13 package? [10:12] <\sh> persia: that's why I asked siretart as debian upstream maintainer ;) [10:12] <\sh> persia: but boson-data is 0.12 (just like debian) but boson-base is not ;) [10:12] <\sh> and upstream has 0.13 fright [10:13] <\sh> s/f// [10:13] themuso: ping [10:13] puh, I don't really maintain boson, I removed myself from uploaders field already [10:14] \sh: there is an updated boson package in experimental, I think we should go with that one for feisty [10:14] IIRC that is a new upstream version, with many fixed bugs, but not suitable for the etch release [10:15] <\sh> I'll give it a try...need to find now a server...which doesn't have a location in our database *sigh* [10:15] <\sh> brb === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] <\sh> re [10:21] <\sh> siretart: you are still in the uploaders field even in the experimental package ;) === selinuxium_ [n=selinium@80-193-7-210.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-195.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] \sh: grrr. need to change that soon [10:29] boson | 0.13-1 | experimental | source, amd64, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc [10:30] I think that one should be fine for feisty, I think [10:31] <\sh> siretart: it's building ;) [10:31] 0.13-1 FTBFS for me (AMD64). Shall I try to fix that? [10:31] <\sh> persia: for edgy we didn't build amd64 packages at all...so as a work around we can remove amd64 ;) [10:31] hm. works in debian [10:31] perhaps again toolchain foo? === persia grumbles about not having games [10:32] <\sh> siretart: -fstack-protection? ,-) [10:32] siretart: Perhaps python change? [10:32] crimsun: ping [10:32] persia: btw, I need to remove the rwlock patch from oops [10:32] Error is cannot convert int* to Py_ssize_t* [10:32] persia: it makes oops aborting after 30 minutes, already got a bug report about that [10:33] siretart: Ah. No worries. [10:33] \sh: for oops it was worse. it uses an private rwlock implementation, which doesn't build with glibc2.5 :/ [10:33] which we have in feisty, of course :( === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] <\sh> siretart: nasty [10:35] yeah :/ [10:35] siretart: I'll start running oops all day here, and see if I can reproduce. If not, perhaps Ubuntu just shouldn't sync with -5? [10:36] <\sh> siretart: we had problems with kernels < 2.6.19 [10:36] <\sh> siretart:mysql was bugging because of a futex_wait problem...and in 2.6.19.2 is just gone [10:37] persia: or just add the patch from -4, yes [10:37] <\sh> siretart: we did some very nice load test with sles and ubuntu..and both are failing ... now ubuntu with a 2.6.19.2 performs very good [10:42] siretart: I'll grab the patch from -4 and test for a while then. [10:42] <\sh> siretart: btw...are you going to fosdem? [10:45] \sh: I was asked by a collegue, I'm still considering it === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-b8116d15c0f1b8cb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1_ [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-1b0db94bb3e5e46d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:59] <\sh> persia: after fixing the problem with the int typecast, I get the "error: UTS_RELEASE was not declared in this scobe [10:59] <\sh> persia: but even build-dep on linux-libc-dev doesn't help [11:00] <\sh> persia: boson 0.13-1 ,-) [11:01] \sh: Sorry. Was distracted by oops. I'll add it to my list and try to make a patch so it can compile this evening or tomorrow (unless you are really excited about it). === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] \sh: If I can get it to compile, shall I just post a patch, or should I also try to un-native the package for full package submission? [11:06] palski: pong [11:07] crimsun: You're too fast! I'm still testing... === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] crimsun: nothing anymore, I already added my comment to bug #79059 [11:10] Malone bug 79059 in gnome-hearts "[SRU] gnome-hearts crashes on startup (edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79059 === apokryphos [n=francis@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] persia: Ping. [11:11] StevenK: Is now a good time to fix the menu? [11:11] persia: Yup [11:12] StevenK: OK. How can I help? Do you need docs, or a patch? If a patch, where can I get that to be patched? [11:14] <\sh> persia: un-nativy it ,-) [11:14] palski: personally I feel mor [11:14] arg [11:14] palski: I feel more comfortable with a simpler debdiff (RE: 79059) [11:14] persia: I'd prefer a patch, and an explanation [11:14] \sh: queued. Depending on difficulty, I'll submit something tomorrow or the next day. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] StevenK: That sounds good to me. What exactly are we looking at? [11:15] palski: please test the suggested change [11:15] <\sh> persia: the typecast errors you can get along with changing int to long...but UTS_RELEASE is set in /usr/include/linux/version.h and it's included in this piece of source..so I don't see the problem... [11:16] crimsun: I'll do that later today [11:16] persia: Okay, so I'd like this package to provide a menu entry under System called "About Ubuntu" that launches about-window [11:16] palski: ok, thanks. [11:16] (A menu entry called that already exists too, just to make it harder) [11:17] persia: You can use bzr to grab http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stevenk/about-window/dev [11:19] StevenK: Grabbing. Do you want two items that say "About Ubuntu", or do you want to replace the current item? [11:26] \sh: At least for me, /usr/include/linux/version.h doesn't include any definition of UTS_RELEASE. [11:28] <\sh> persia: ah yes, I was using dapper and not my feisty chroot :( [11:28] <\sh> that's as well a problem during my vmware install on edgy and feisty [11:29] <\sh> wonder why [11:29] \sh: I need to head off for a bit, but I'll chase the code when I return. [11:29] <\sh> it's not set anymore [11:29] <\sh> persia: I'm poking #ubuntu-kernel..so if there is a workaround, I'll prepare a patch for 0.13-1 [11:30] StevenK: The simple answer is to start with the /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-about.desktop provided by gnome-panel-data, and change the Exec clause. I'll make a patch when I return. [11:30] persia: I did that, which didn't work. [11:38] \sh: upstream kernel change [11:39] it's apparently supposed to be in linux/utsrelease.h, and it's not exported by `make headers_install' [11:39] <\sh> argl...how can we solve this problem ? [11:48] StevenK: I've replicated that locally now, and I'm not seeing what I expect in /etc/xdg/menus. Let me get back to you on this (and thanks for the interesting .desktop question: most are trivial). === doko [n=doko@i59F7277C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] \sh: That appears to be a compile-time value only. If you don't find something else, I think we can get it from a local include generated by debian/rules from uname-a. === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] <\sh> persia: ok..trying a workaround...give me a sec ;) [11:56] persia: Heh, any time. :-) === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] StevenK: I found it. The issue is that the System menu is not being generated by the xdg trees, but is hardcoded in gnome-panel/panel-menu-items.c. If you want to replace the "About Ubuntu", you either need to alter the path used by this code, Replaces gnome-panel for /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-about.desktop, or have gnome-panel drop the .desktop file and depend on about-window. === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-195.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] StevenK: You might also try something with dpkg-divert, but I'm not really familiar enough with that to feel comfortable suggesting specifics. [01:15] <\sh> did I say that I hate quilt? [01:16] <\sh> and I hate cmake [01:16] what's wrong with quilt? [01:17] <\sh> quilt new, quilt edit, quilt refresh, quilt pop ... too difficult for me... [01:17] \sh: I hope your desire for RTS makes up for that :) [01:18] <\sh> and cmake...why is -D not -D like in make...no -D as in make you have to add to CMakeLists.txt as add_definitions(-Dfoo=bar) ugh === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] \sh: something you love? ;) === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] <\sh> siretart: pure diffing and patching is my love ,) === segfault [i=segfault@unreal.core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:31] persia: Right. What I might do is talk to seb128 about it. [01:32] StevenK: Unless you want to do something dark and secret with dpkg-divert, that's your best route to success :) === dogmatism [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dogmatism [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.241.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.144.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=kvirc@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=kvirc@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moroco [n=moroco@190.72.113.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No2Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No3Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] imbrandon: n/m regarding rebuilding beryl 0.1.2-0ubuntu1, already fixed the cause (mesa) === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === afflux [i=discoflu@gateway/tor/x-59c38533a867625f] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] when fixing universe packages, can i upload it directly to revu? [02:33] existing source packages in universe should use launchpad [02:33] file a bug against the source package, and attach a debdiff [02:33] then subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [02:35] humm, ok === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] even if i uploaded it before? [02:38] revu is reserved for new source packages === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dogmatism [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] is it ? [02:49] I'm fine with updates and merges going through revu personally [02:49] they too need to be reviewed [02:51] siretart: thanks for the mail, great idea, what do you think about adding those information to REVU or strongly recommend it there as well for new packages? === No1Viking [n=kvirc@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] white: I need to check this with a MOTU Meeting, but in general, I think that would be the correct place [02:53] white: but first, that wiki-list-app needs to designed and actually written ;) [02:56]