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Jester45im getting and error after trying to start my xgl gdm sesson01:01
Jester45the error was somthing like exec: 5: cant find xfce-session anyone know how to fix this01:01
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Jester45can you start xgl/beryl from inside a normal xorg01:27
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Jester45i get this error when i try to start a xgl session01:46
bigfuzzyjesushelo01:46
bigfuzzyjesushello01:46
bigfuzzyjesuswhat do you think the easiest way to remote connect to a computer on my network would be, it would also need to be windows capable for accessing01:47
Jester45ssh01:49
Jester45!ssh01:49
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:49
Jester45its only cli i think01:49
bigfuzzyjesusok01:49
bigfuzzyjesusis that command line interface01:50
bigfuzzyjesusi want it to be graphical :(01:50
Jester45!VCN01:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about VCN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:50
Jester45!VNC01:50
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX01:50
Jester45the error is /etc/gdmPreSession/Default: Registering your session wih wtmp utmp01:53
Jester45/etc/gdmPreSession/Default: running: /use/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/usr/lib/gdm/:0.Xserver" -h"" -l ":0" "ryan"01:53
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badbrainzI cant paste a Fluxbox style I downloaded to /usr/shar/fluxbox/styles  I can copy & paste to home folder only.  I'm running Xubuntu Edgy 64-bit.  Do I need to login as root or something?02:01
Jester45what are you pasting02:01
Jester45you need to be root but you dont have to login as root02:02
Jester45try gksu Thunar02:02
badbrainzI'm pasting a fluxbox style, as root but it didnt work.02:04
badbrainzI was using Thunar02:04
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Jester45i dont know02:05
badbrainzwhat is gksu?02:09
ormiret!sudo | badbrainz02:11
ubotubadbrainz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:11
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Jester45i need help with xgl02:13
Jester45the session crashes with 3 font errors and 1 exec: 5: xfcesession: not found02:13
ormiretJester45: it should be looking for xfce4-session I think (never used xgl)02:19
Jester45ooops02:19
Jester45typo02:19
Jester45it is xfce-session02:20
Jester45o02:20
Jester45with a 402:20
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Jester45ok its working now02:25
Jester45would you happen to know hwo to use it02:26
cellofellowuse what?02:26
Jester45beryl02:26
cellofellownope02:26
cellofellowok, abiword sucks. It doesn't even do headers.02:27
Jester45mousepad it02:27
cellofellowIt's a document I made in OpenOffice on Edgy.02:28
cellofellowRight now I'm in Feisty, and I haven't installed OOo yet, and don't intend to02:28
cellofellowthere, I do Insert Header, and it crashes02:29
cellofellowwell, I'm gonna reboot into edgy. BRB02:29
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Jester45when i open any window with xgl my system locks up anyone know why?02:53
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magic_ninjaanyone play diablo ii03:02
Jester45i used to03:02
Jester45untill a rcent patch made it hard to get stone of jordans03:02
Jester45why?03:03
magic_ninjatrying to find a working mh, i used to have one03:03
Jester45google mousepad03:04
magic_ninjanot wise03:04
magic_ninjacould loose your cd key doing that03:04
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Jester45not the newversion03:04
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somerville32Can you guys take this to offtopic? Thanks.03:05
Jester45never03:05
Jester45somerville32: do you use beryl03:05
somerville32Nope/03:05
somerville32*Nope.03:05
Jester45darn03:06
Jester45brb gonna try it again03:06
Jester45i got xgl to wkor but somthing it messed up03:06
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=== Jester45 has beryl AND xgl working
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somerville32:] 03:10
semi-fly:)03:10
semi-flyI avoid Beryal / xgl / compiz...03:10
somerville32The built-in compositor for Xfce4 is good enough for me :)03:11
semi-flyNice looking effects, however.03:11
Jester45yep03:11
Jester45but... i dont know how to use them03:11
semi-flyI second that, sommerville32 :)03:11
Jester45semi-fly: you use beryl b4?03:12
semi-flyYep...and compiz, as well.03:12
Jester45could you help me with it03:12
semi-flyMostly to see how efficient the rendering was.03:12
Jester45how do it get it to do stuff03:12
somerville32#ubuntu-xgl is a good place to check, Jester45, if you can't find help here03:12
Jester45nobody there03:13
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semi-flyWell, do you have a specific problem, or does the application simply not work?03:13
Jester45im not sure if it working or not03:13
Jester45its no doing anything03:14
Jester45how do i try to get things ot change? like bending things03:14
somerville32!xgl | jester4503:15
ubotujester45: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:15
semi-flyYep - you'd notice a difference right off the bat...03:15
Jester45yes03:15
semi-flyIt can be tricky to get working properly, and I've personally corrupted gtk configuration settings by enabling it, so i'd use it with caution :)03:16
Jester45semi-fly: im not trying to do anything fancy just to use any effect03:16
semi-flyDid the Beryl menu load onto the bar?03:17
Jester45whats modifer keys03:17
Jester45yes03:17
bigfuzzyjesushas anyone seen the ivue case for the ipod03:17
Jester45nope03:17
semi-flyOh, you probably have Xfce4...I've only installed Beryl under Gnome...lol :)03:17
Jester45yes i do03:17
Jester45on the modifer keys there is a "super" whats that?03:18
bigfuzzyjesus!botnet03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
semi-flyTry locating the Beryl binary - if I remember correctly, you can run the Beryl menu tool from the command prompt.03:19
semi-flytry 'beryl' then tab completion - see what the prompt displays :)03:19
Jester45you mean the beryl menu thing03:19
Jester45red dimond?03:19
Jester45i have that03:19
semi-flyShould be loaded then...03:21
semi-flyJust select some options and enable them...I've only used Beryl once, so it's hard to remember all the options lol03:21
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Jester45ok when i change the wm from xfce to beryl my system locks up03:26
Jester45nothing happens all i can do is move the mouse03:27
semi-flyWell, you'r still using Xfce4 - Beryl simply runs on top of the WM, so to speak ( I think ).03:27
Jester45well on the settings manger there is a list of wm and when things work its fce but then when i switch it stop evrything03:28
Jester45and when fce is the wm no effects happen03:28
semi-flyYou might want to re-emerge, er I mean reinstall Beryl then check out: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu03:28
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semi-flyRead up on this: http://m0n5t3r.info/blog/aiglx-beryl-xfce-gentoo.html has some tips for getting Xfce4 working with Beryl.03:30
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Jester45ok03:39
Jester45aaa03:39
Jester45i cant wait till spring03:39
Jester45i get new computer :) nvidia sli core duo and 2 gb ram to start then gonna upgraDE TO 4GB03:45
somerville32:)03:47
bigfuzzyjesusJester45, is 4gb of ram really neccisary03:47
Jester45yeps03:47
Jester45im going to keep windows on it03:48
Jester45better gaming03:48
Jester45its gonna have linux also03:48
Jester45dont know about sli and linux but im going to get it to work03:49
bigfuzzyjesusi thought like 2 gigs was a large amount03:49
=== Jester45 has allmost 2
Jester45its 196703:50
=== bigfuzzyjesus has 256 on this one, 512 on his normal linux box and 1 gig on his winblows machine
=== Jester45 is using 1800ish
bigfuzzyjesuswhat all do you have open03:50
bigfuzzyjesusi can surf the web listen to music chat and something else on my 512 machine03:51
Jester45azureus firefox gtk gnutella a few thunars03:51
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Jester45movie dvd conversion gaim03:51
Jester45and i think action cubve is on somewhere :)03:52
Jester45i dont keep my desktop very clean03:52
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Jester45azureus is using most of it03:53
cellofellowI can try and try to fill my RAM, run OpenOffice and Eclipse and mutliple Firefox windows and I still can't max out my 319MB RAM. Swap is alway less than 100MB, and I have 1GB swap.03:53
Jester45i have 30003:54
Jester45o03:55
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Jester45i have dsl in qemu open also03:55
Jester45thats a bit of it also03:55
cellofellowooh. I love doing that.03:55
Jester45my workspace is cluttered03:56
cellofellowwhen I installed Feisty with qemu, it only used 128MB RAM, cause that's how much it uses.03:56
cellofellowCPU it used like crazy. RAM was negligable.03:56
cellofellow128 max, it used less actually.03:56
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wallacewHow do I disable the password prompt on returning from a screensaver?04:00
somerville32Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Screensaver04:01
somerville32Uncheck "Lock screen" or similiar04:01
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wallacewsomerville32, Thanks!04:01
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Jester46cellofellow: what was the last thing i said to u04:34
Jester46wiw04:35
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Jester46kinda weird04:35
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Jester45cellofellow: you there? i wanna send you somthing04:37
cellofellowI'm here04:38
cellofellownow, sorry I was doing something else04:38
Jester45what was the last thing i said to you04:38
Jester45i lost connection a little bit ago04:38
Jester45b4 i was jester5604:38
cellofellowyou wanted to send me something, but that was as Jester45.04:39
Jester45ok well i did say04:40
Jester45that qemu can use more ram if you tell it to04:40
cellofellowI know04:40
cellofellowI've read the man page, several times.04:41
Jester45and the thing i wanna send you is a movie of beryl with flame effect04:41
cellofellowhow big?04:41
Jester45<1mb04:42
cellofellowshoot then!04:42
Jester45waiting04:42
Jester45do you know how ot recive?04:42
cellofellowyes, do you know how to send it? I think you need to forward a port.04:43
cellofellow14s704:43
cellofellow143704:43
Jester45all my ports are forwarded04:43
cellofellowhmmm04:43
cellofellowtry again04:44
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Jester45i all ways have this problem04:44
cellofellowoh, here's the problem. I've trying to get from 192.168.0.100 instead of your outside address.04:44
cellofellow<DCC can't connect to 192.168.1.4 port 2389>04:44
cellofellowI can't get to you if you are pretending to be on my internal network.04:45
Jester45hehe04:45
cellofellowwhy is it acting that way?04:45
Jester45im sneaky :)04:45
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Jester45im on your LAN cellofellow better check your house b4 you go to bed04:46
cellofellowhaha very funny.04:46
Jester45Boo04:47
kalikianaDoes anybody know if I can keep my nick on a reconnect in XChat?04:54
Jester45should04:55
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mynameisdeletedhi05:01
Jester45hi05:01
mynameisdeletedhi hi05:01
mynameisdeletedanyone want to test my xubuntu mirror?05:02
Jester45sure05:03
mynameisdeletedhttp://okser.net/xubuntu05:03
mynameisdeleteddownload an iso and see how much bandwidth you can use05:03
Jester45what im i testing05:03
mynameisdeletedits technically got a gigabit connection, so if its not loaded down there shouldn't be any way you can notice speed05:04
Jester4553KB/s05:04
Jester4510 now05:04
Jester45i think im uploading somthing05:05
mynameisdeletedyou must be on dialup05:05
kalikianai get 220kb :)05:05
kalikiana(but i won't do a complete load now)05:05
mynameisdeleteddoesn't anyone have at least 100mbps to test with?05:05
Jester45lol05:06
kalikiana:P05:06
Jester45im uploading somthing so im stuck low05:06
Jester45the max is get is 150kb/s05:06
kalikianaI'm on 240kb/s05:06
mynameisdeletedmason> wget -Y off -O /dev/null  http://okser.net/xubuntu/feisty/herd-2/feisty-desktop-i386.iso05:07
mynameisdeleted--23:07:02--  http://okser.net/xubuntu/feisty/herd-2/feisty-desktop-i386.iso05:07
mynameisdeleted           => `/dev/null'05:07
mynameisdeletedResolving okser.net... 66.117.32.8305:07
mynameisdeletedConnecting to okser.net[66.117.32.83] :80... connected.05:07
mynameisdeletedHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK05:07
mynameisdeletedLength: 579,028,992 [application/x-iso9660-image] 05:07
mynameisdeleted 9% [==>                                  ]  53,204,612    10.94M/s    ETA 00:45^05:07
mynameisdeletedthat's on my schools connection05:07
mynameisdeletedwas over 11MB/s for a while05:07
Jester45cookage05:07
mynameisdeletedif it writes to anythign other than /dev/null the hd slows the download speed05:07
mynameisdeletedand a good test would be at least gigabit internet05:08
mynameisdeletedwhich is almost impossible to find05:08
kalikianai get 250,50 kb/s for dev/null :D05:09
mynameisdeletedon my schooll I can download a full linux iso that is 579MB in 50 seconds flat05:11
cellofellowwhoa05:11
mynameisdeletedI don't think any of the ubuntu mirrors support that now05:11
mynameisdeletedbut mine might change if it gets loaded05:11
mynameisdeletedthis makes most of your bandwidth not show up on my meter05:12
mynameisdeletedtilll it scrolls off the charge05:12
mynameisdeletedchart05:12
Jester45i did have a 1gb/s free file host05:12
Jester45lost the name05:13
Jester45they supported torrents also05:13
mynameisdeletedI work for a hosting company05:13
mynameisdeletedin  a datacenter05:13
mynameisdeletedand am using a computer from a former customer who didn't pay his internet bills05:13
mynameisdeletedfor several months and wend bankrupt05:14
Jester45do you have ftp?05:15
Jester45i could test that05:15
mynameisdeletedif I installed that05:15
mynameisdeletedI haven't yet05:15
mynameisdeletedit runs regular ubuntu but without X05:15
mynameisdeletedtherefor not xubuntu05:15
Jester45im sorry05:16
mynameisdeletedftp bandwidth won't be any different than http sincce they both use tcp/ip05:16
mynameisdeletedyou have a recommended ftp server?05:16
Jester45nope05:18
Jester45but i have a way to test your speed with ftp05:18
Jester45you should see torrents dl at 30mbs05:19
Jester45very bad for ratio :(05:19
mynameisdeletedif you leave them up overnight you make the upload back normally05:19
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Jester45but its hard to get that many people to dl that much05:20
Jester45i use that on torrents with like 11k seeds05:20
Jester45the few05:20
mynameisdeletedftp://okser.net05:22
Jester45ok05:22
cellofellowJester45: what'd you use to get that burning windows video?05:22
mynameisdeletedberyl has a plugin for that05:22
Jester45i used the amazing google05:22
Jester45thats what it is05:22
cellofellowwhat program? or does google have a screencapture program?05:23
Jester45http://69.179.135.241/apache2-default/XGLBerylburneffect.avi05:23
Jester45it wasnt me05:23
Jester45silly cellofellow05:23
cellofellowOh. I tought you were showing me that cause you were happy you got Beryl working.05:23
cellofellowYou've been trying all week.05:23
Jester45nope05:24
mynameisdeletedI have beryl working05:24
Jester45still breaks my computer05:24
Jester45brb05:24
mynameisdeletedit will work much bbetter with my new computer05:24
mynameisdeletedwith a 256MB graphics card instead of one with only 8MB video memroy05:24
cellofellowberyl wouldn't start here. That's when I quit. I have PIII Katmai and a TNT2 with 32MB Vid Memory. Didn't work too well.05:25
mynameisdeletedvideo memory is only a n issue if I have more than 10 windws open or du full window burns05:25
mynameisdeletedmenu burns are fine05:25
cellofellowI often have like 3 windows per workspace open, at least, and 4 workspaces.05:25
mynameisdeletedany "vista ready" computer should be able to run beryl nicely if set up right05:26
mynameisdeletedI think05:26
mynameisdeletedwith proper 3d drivers05:26
cellofellownvidia cards then all the way.05:26
Jester45i have 4 workspaces05:27
Jester45but only use 105:27
cellofellowhaha05:27
Jester45its an old windows habit05:27
mynameisdeletedftp://okser.net/feisty/herd-2/feisty-desktop-i386.iso05:27
mynameisdeletedthat's an ftp url to test05:27
cellofellowMine are named Appspace, Netspace, Codespace, and Outerspace. I organized them05:27
mynameisdeletedif you have a speed tester for ftp05:27
Jester45mine are named 1 2 3 405:28
cellofellowthat's the default. :)05:28
mynameisdeletedI like jester45's names better05:28
Jester45cellofellow: are you still dl from me?05:28
cellofellowyeah05:28
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Jester45cellofellow: how far? ETA?05:28
cellofellowit's at 64%05:28
cellofellowno, more than that05:29
cellofellowI think05:29
Jester45you killing my torrents05:29
cellofellowyou gave me the link05:29
Jester45sill05:29
Jester45couldnt you have dail up for somthing05:29
cellofellow:/05:30
cellofellowwhat do you meen?05:30
Jester45you dl is to fast05:31
Jester45taking all my upload05:31
cellofellowit's at 16-18KBps.05:31
cellofellowI can do 30KBps when I connect to a faster server.05:32
Jester45sorry05:32
Jester45im sharing you with gtk-gnutella and azureus05:32
cellofellowheh, home servers are always sort of slow. That's why distributed P2P stuff is faster.05:33
cellofellowlike torrent05:33
mynameisdeletedmy server is prob faster than p2p05:33
cellofellowprolly faster than my DL speed.05:34
mynameisdeletedI have cable to my home05:34
mynameisdeletedand another server on fios05:34
cellofellowI have cheap DSL.05:34
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Jester45mynameisdeleted: the top speed i got was 39mb/s but that didnt last long05:43
Jester45sorry about the delay05:43
Jester45still good05:43
mynameisdeletedsupposedly its way better than that05:43
Jester45try a speed test website05:43
mynameisdeletedI think its faster than most of those too05:44
Jester45well the line i was testing from gets a max of 60mb/s but thats when its the only transfer05:44
mynameisdeletedif you know a good one let me know05:44
Jester45many ppl are using it so it could be slowed down05:44
Jester45google knows05:44
Jester45try a google search for "speed test 1gb"05:45
Jester45mynameisdeleted: could i get a ftp account with you?05:47
Jester45or how about running a repo?05:50
mynameisdeletedwhat type?05:51
Jester45ubuntu05:52
mynameisdeletedcvs?05:52
mynameisdeletedor svn?05:52
Jester45i was just kidding about hte repo05:52
Jester45deb05:52
mynameisdeletedok05:52
Jester45but how about hte ftp05:52
Jester45aa05:52
Jester45The is the wost word for me to type05:53
mynameisdeleteda full ubuntu debian packages mirror takes 190gb05:53
mynameisdeletedwhich is more space than I have on that server05:53
mynameisdeletedunless I upgrade05:53
Jester45o05:53
Jester45well could i have ftp ? it would be nice05:53
mynameisdeletedbut I have a  server with 12 drive slots which if I fill up will be able to do that05:53
mynameisdeletedI run an xubuntu mirror on it05:54
mynameisdeletedso you can download isos fast05:54
Jester45i dont need iso05:54
mynameisdeletedtrue05:55
mynameisdeletedbiggest download need is faster apt-get05:55
Jester45yep05:55
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Jester45ubuntu should use a free file host05:55
Jester45they are fast and the repos would be used often so it wouldnt get deleted05:56
Jester45humm06:04
Jester45well i have to go06:09
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grumpymolehello06:32
grumpymolei have got an extra panel on my xubuntu desktop and i can't seem to get rid of it06:32
grumpymoleany ideas?06:32
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backtickhi all, I've installed the "xfce" package on kubuntu edgy and when I login to xfce (though the kdm) I just get a blank black screen and the mouse pointer, any ideas?08:25
backticks/though/through08:26
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TheSheepbacktick: can you switch to console then (alt+ctrl+f1), log in and execute 'ps x'?08:26
TheSheepand see if xfce4-session is listed08:27
backtickok will try08:28
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backtickTheSheep: no xfce4-session is not present in the process list08:41
backticki tried to launch xfce4-panel from the termianl and got a seg fault08:42
TheSheepbacktick: seems like your system is broken08:45
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TheSheepbacktick: can you launch the xfce4-seession?08:45
backtickwell i started a session next to kde08:45
backtickand there's a " 5326 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/xfce4-session"08:46
backtickbut it just shows a blue background08:46
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dag_dgnfs networking, xfce, tried it on this comp(running xubuntu, and another, running ubuntu) mounting via nfs, both say the nfs server is down10:39
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oemanyone able to tell me how to fix the repository list01:13
TheSheep!easysource01:13
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:13
oemthanks01:13
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hyper_chhiho, I have problems getting into the admin stuff01:57
oemhow do I edit the sources list for the repositories02:02
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hyper__chTheSheep: you're there?02:06
semi-flyoem, type 'nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list'02:10
semi-flysudo before that...02:10
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icheynedoes anyone here use a Radeon 9250 or other 92** card and use the open-source driver?02:51
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hyper__chanyone knows where the gpg keys are being saved?03:02
TheSheephyper__ch: in ~/.gpg I presume03:03
hyper__chTheSheep: and do you know why I can't access certain admin stuff like networking anymore?03:03
TheSheepum, ~/.gnupg03:04
TheSheephyper__ch: it's broken in feisty, they forgot to add gksudo to launchers03:04
hyper__chTheSheep: it's edgy03:04
TheSheep:/03:04
hyper__chTheSheep: I did a reinstall yesterday... but left the /home partition as it was03:05
hyper__chTheSheep: but I still can't access it03:05
hyper__chTheSheep: The configuration could not be loaded. You are not allowed to access the system configuration03:06
TheSheephyper__ch: I've got the same03:07
TheSheephyper__ch: just run them with sudo03:07
hyper__chTheSheep: ok03:08
TheSheepubuntu+1 should be called greedy gnome :303:09
hyper__chI guess I'm going to test herd 2 (again)03:11
hyper__chshall I leave the /home partition as it is? Will it alter something?03:11
TheSheepshould be ok03:11
hyper__chok :)03:11
hyper__chTheSheep: one more question: I have 3 diskdrives attached to the IDE channels (plus one dvd-rewriter) and one diskdrive is using sata... will that be a problem due to the naming?03:16
hyper__chI think you told me that hda will be renamed to sda03:17
hyper__chso I will have like two sda?03:17
TheSheepyou will have sda, sdb, sdc, sdd and sde03:17
TheSheepprobably03:17
TheSheepnot sure :)03:17
hyper__chlol :)03:17
hyper__chI'll try... they are all of different sizes03:18
hyper__ch60GB, 120 GB, 160 GB, 300 GB03:18
hyper__chbye03:18
hyper__chbye03:18
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Commander-Crowehey all04:58
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hyper_chTheSheep: Still the same old problem with Fiesty :( Grub doesn't want to load the right partitions anymore05:21
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trectior2hola buenas05:22
trectior2alguien me puede echar una mano?05:22
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trectior2hablais castellano?05:22
hyper_ch!es05:22
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:22
trectior2ok sorry05:22
TheSheephyper_ch: change root=hdaX to root=sdaX in grub's config05:23
hyper_chTheSheep: well, grub did then something like:   root(hda1,5)05:23
hyper_chthat's what I got when I edited the start entry05:24
TheSheep(hd1, 5)05:24
hyper_chsorry, it was:   root(hd1,5)05:24
TheSheepthat's ok05:24
hyper_chbut what does that mean? what do I have to change it to?05:24
TheSheepno05:24
hyper_chwhere do I then alter something?05:24
TheSheep/boot/grub/menu.lst05:24
hyper_chhow to access that from a freshly installed fiesty?05:25
hyper_chfeisty :)05:25
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hyper_chTheSheep: and the isntallation took very long... I got quite a few blue screens where for some time nothing happened05:29
Ro_Vaiblue screen??05:30
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hyper_chRo_Vai: during install of Feisty Herd 2... there were long time intervals where nothing was on the screen... just the blue background05:30
Ro_Vaidid you just upgrade from edgy or use a cd05:31
Ro_Vaiand what kind of cd05:31
hyper_chRo_Vai: no upgrade... fresh isntall with alternate xubuntu05:32
hyper_chText Mode05:32
hyper_chRo_Vai: why so interested?05:32
hyper_chRo_Vai: I tested kubuntu feisty herd 1 several weeks ago.... nothing like that happened there (except for the grub problem)05:33
Ro_Vaithe blue screen coulda just been because things were configuring your video05:33
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hyper_chRo_Vai: they appeared when I tested for cd defects, they appears before probing for hardware, before the partiton menu, ...... all the time05:35
Ro_Vaino clue then i just upgraded from edgy no cd ^.^05:36
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hyper_chRo_Vai: ^^05:36
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dssdqwill next ubuntu have good fonts05:41
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trectior2hello, later install xubuntu 6.10 i don't know config users, aplications,... because i don't have anywhere config.05:52
kalikianatrectior2: what exactly do you need to know?05:54
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trectior2I NEED TO FORM USERS AND TO INSTALL PROGRAMS IN XUBUNTU, AND TO BE ABLE TO ACCEDE TO THE USERS' CONFIGURATION.05:58
kalikianatrectior2: please don't SHOUT :)06:01
kalikianause synaptic, located in the Applications -> System menu to install programs06:01
trectior2yes but i dont have internet06:02
trectior2and i dont have synaptic access direct06:02
trectior2i need open terminal and write06:02
trectior2sudo synaptic and password to use synaptic06:02
trectior2sorry my english is very bad06:03
trectior2and shout it's for soft of translate.. xD06:03
kalikianaas long as you can access the internet on another computer, you can download any ubuntu deb package and install it with a double-click06:06
kalikianagonme-files.org is a good source, for example06:07
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kalikianagnomefiles.org that is :)06:07
icheynedoes anyone here have a Radeon 9200 or 9250 card running the open-source driver? How well do they run?06:10
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dssdqwill next ubuntu have good fonts06:41
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CPF_Ok, how do I change my login image (I mean, that one where you have to enter your user/pass?)07:07
CPF_anyone????07:08
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Maximilian1sthi all08:01
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PuMpErNiCkLehi you08:02
Maximilian1stHi,08:02
Maximilian1stI was wondering if one already tried installing the new feisty beta...08:03
Maximilian1stI have it hanging here on the sk98lin driver08:03
Maximilian1stI know there is a website for logging the problems one could encounter with the beta CD but I can't rememeber where it is... Do you?08:04
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Maximilian1stoopsy...08:07
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Maximilian1stHey somerville32.08:19
Maximilian1stYou asked me to test the feisty CD.08:19
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Maximilian1stI am right now testing it on a laptop and the install hangs at the08:19
Maximilian1stsk98lin driver loading or so...08:20
Maximilian1stBut the overall looks ok.08:20
Maximilian1stShould I report this driver hang or is it not something they, or you are looking for.08:21
somerville32Are you using the desktop-cd or live-cd?08:22
Maximilian1stI can't tell08:22
somerville32k, one second08:22
Maximilian1stI downloaded the first iso from the page I can't find anymore...08:24
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Maximilian1stsomerville32: I tried installing for the second time now. I'll be away for 15-20 minutes... kid wants a story.08:27
somerville32Alrighty :)08:27
somerville32Chat with you then08:27
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cellofellowmorning08:55
Maximilian1stevening08:57
cellofellowdifferent time zones, eh?08:58
somerville32afternoon :) \o/08:58
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Maximilian1stsomerville32: I'm back. Do you know how to see if the installation hangs or what?09:01
Maximilian1stStupid question from me cause it just seems to hang for the second time on the same place as before...09:01
somerville32Maximilian1st, 1. Are you using the desktop cd or alternative cd? The desktop cd is the one with the live cd desktop and the alternative is the text-based installer.09:01
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Maximilian1stok, desktop.09:01
cellofellowalt should work if all else fails.09:02
somerville32Maximilian1st, I would report the bug on malone09:02
somerville32!bugs09:02
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots09:02
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Maximilian1stShould I give it special name so you know it is for the "feisty beta live CD"?09:05
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somerville32Maximilian1st, put [feisty]  in the title09:06
somerville32Assign it to ubiquity09:07
somerville32and give as much info as you can in the description field09:07
somerville32Also, if you can, attach logs09:07
Maximilian1stI see it is already there.09:07
cellofellowI have 3 OS's on my computer. Edgy, Feisty, and DSL in a QEMU image.09:07
Maximilian1sthttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/7934009:07
UbugtuMalone bug 79340 in ubiquity "Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller (sk98lin) Hangs Ubiquity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 09:07
Maximilian1stThat's it.09:08
somerville32Confirm it09:09
somerville32Change the status from "Unconfirmed" to "Confirmed"09:09
Maximilian1stThis is when using the desktop live cd, what about the alternative CD. Is there a way to circumvent the driver loading?09:09
somerville32Maximilian1st, I'm sure there is for the alternative cd.09:10
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cellofellowooops. I'm back now09:15
Maximilian1stWell, now I am stuck with this laptop not working and Xfce releases this week-end and I have plenty to upload! :-/09:17
somerville32Maximilian1st, Did you try the alternative install?09:18
Maximilian1stI give the alternative CD a shot.09:18
somerville32Maximilian1st, Are you a debian maintainer?09:18
Maximilian1stWas just answering that.09:18
Maximilian1stNope a translation committer for Xfce and translator for the french Xfce.09:18
somerville32Ah, kk09:19
somerville32Do you use launchpad?09:19
Maximilian1stFor the translations?09:19
Maximilian1stIf that is your question, I translate directly in SVN.09:19
somerville32Ok09:20
somerville32You should consider using launchpad, hehe09:20
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Maximilian1stThis is work done two times. The main translations have to be in the new releases, but I already had a thought about helping bring the translations in launchpad up to date...09:23
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Maximilian1stBut for now I have to bring back my desktop to life on this laptop. Please be so kind to remind me of the place I downloaded this beta of feisty, so I can pick the sescond link, alternative...09:26
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Maximilian1st!herd209:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about herd2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
somerville32!testing09:35
ubotuFor information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu and for the results matrix, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Xubuntu/Current09:35
somerville32Maximilian1st, You just import the po* files and then you can export them once you're done translating them09:35
Maximilian1sttesting that was the key word. Thx. I searched the bot for herd... somerville32 You mean for the launchpad thing?09:36
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Maximilian1stAs soon as Xfce 4.4 will be out, I'll give a serious check at the launchpad French translations.09:38
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somerville32k09:38
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Terziancan anyone help with a Xubuntu install?10:14
somerville32Sure ; )10:14
TerzianOK, booting from install CD, spash screen comes up for a while then screen blanks with blinking cursor at upper left10:15
somerville32Are you using the live cd or alternative cd?10:16
Terzian6.10 desktop cd10:17
Terzianis this a live cd as well?10:17
somerville32Yup10:17
somerville32I'd try using the alternative cd10:18
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Terzianis there a way to show the console messages instead of the splash screen?10:19
somerville32crtl+alt+f6, I think10:19
somerville32or one of the function keys10:19
dosnlinuxnot sure if this matters any, but the home page for 6.10 says 6.0610:19
Terzianok, thanks10:20
somerville32dosnlinux, Known issue. Fixed in 7.04 :)10:20
dosnlinuxah, ok10:20
dosnlinuxI had to double check the iso to make sure I downloaded the right version :P10:20
dosnlinuxalthough .04 difference probably won't make much of a difference10:21
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=== dosnlinux fixes the home page
dosnlinuxmuch better now ;)10:26
kalikianaDoes anybody know a tool to optimize an svg image?10:26
dosnlinuxinkscape10:26
kalikianaI said optimize, not created - which I did. :)10:27
dosnlinuxthe gimp to, but to a lesser degree10:27
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kalikianaI'd for example want to round numbers, but not by hand. :/10:27
dosnlinuxoh, how is that done?10:27
kalikianaAll the coordinates and such are like 66.456344 which is a waste of space.10:28
dosnlinuxmaybe using sed in a bash script?10:28
dosnlinuxawk might be better10:31
kalikianaI'll probably use python then, I'm better at that. :/10:31
kalikianaBut I find it strange that there is no tool for that.10:32
dosnlinuxI'd think your svg tool would have something like that10:32
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dosnlinuxbut I usually work with png's ;)10:33
TheSheepkalikiana: there is such a tool10:33
TheSheepkalikiana: you just need to configure it a little bit10:33
TheSheepkalikiana: the tool is called "perl" ;)10:33
kalikianaTheSheep: I will neither do perl nor bash. :-o10:34
TheSheepkalikiana: why cripple yourself?10:35
dosnlinuxpython should work just fine10:35
TheSheepany turing-complee language will -- even Whitespace. It's juts a question of work involved.10:38
TheSheeps/ee/ete10:38
kalikianaI could even use Shakespeare Programming Language *g10:38
dosnlinuxlol, first time I heard of that one10:40
dosnlinuxsomeone put a lot of work coming up with all those names :P10:41
kalikianait's like asm wrapped in a nice theatre play10:41
dosnlinuxcode is art ;)10:41
dosnlinuxwhere's a good place to check out how xubuntu has acpi configured?10:45
somerville32!acpi | dosnlinux10:46
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)10:46
somerville32Hrmpg10:46
somerville32Thats not what I want10:46
kalikiana:P10:46
crimsun!acpi-support10:47
ubotuacpi-support: a collection of useful events for acpi. In component main, is optional. Version 0.90 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 724 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64)10:47
dosnlinuxthanks10:48
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EaglewolfI'm having some trouble getting the 6.10 installer to boot on my laptop. It's a sony vaio pcg-r505ts. I get to the boot menu, but when I select the start/install option, or the start in safe mode option, it doesn't work there. I think it may be a video driver issue11:14
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somerville32Eaglewolf, You might try the alternative cd11:18
EaglewolfYea, I'm downloading it right now11:19
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dosnlinuxwhat's the difference between the desktop cd and alternate?11:23
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TheSheepdosnlinux: alternate cd has an installer working in text mode, desktop cd is a livecd with a graphical installer11:24
dosnlinuxah11:24
dosnlinuxI saw "choose this if your unsure" and downloaded alternate11:25
dosnlinuxthat was before I realized desktop x86 said the same thing11:25
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Jester45hello world11:38
somerville32Hello Jester4511:38
Jester45how you doing?11:41
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cellofellowWhere's the World that Jester45 is hello-ing?11:48
Jester45yep11:48
cellofellowwhere is it?11:49
Jester45the Sun11:49
Jester45its hot over here11:49
cellofellowI have an Edgy DVD that I think I can use for installing LAMP from. Is that a good idea? I'm going to try Drupal.11:50
Jester45anyone know of a ftp file host?11:53
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cellofellowcool. when some of the packages were old on the DVD, it downloaded from the repos. The current ones, from the DVD.11:58
EaglewolfThat's nice11:59
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arentoineHello all, if I have mounted share drives in /media/ directory, will they show up on my desktop ?12:00
arentoineThe drives are smbfs mount point from my file server12:02
Jester45i dont t hink they will12:03
Jester45think*12:03
arentoinecause, dvd drive, for example, do12:03
cellofellowthat's HAL that does that, and since SMBFS isn't hardware, it won't show on the desktop.12:04
TheSheeparentoine: you can make a link or launcher though12:04
cellofellowI mount my smbfs in ~/mnt, and it doesn't show on desktop.12:04
cellofellowyeah12:04
arentoineok, that's why I have to create manual links12:05
TheSheepcellofellow: I think the non-xubuntu xfce shows mounts on the desktop :/12:05
cellofellowhmm12:05
arentoineI'm not sure, but I think I read something about this on other Ubuntu distro12:06
cellofellowDreamlinux maybe?12:06
=== cellofellow has been hearing a lot about bl lately.
TheSheeparentoine: normal ubuntu might also show them -- it uses Nautilus12:06
TheSheeparentoine: if it doesn't by default, you can enable it in configuration12:07
kalikianathere is the new thunar volume manager :)12:07
TheSheepkalikiana: is it in repos yet? :312:07
cellofellowI know KDE can be made to do that.12:07
kalikianahttp://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-volman/index.html12:07
kalikianait's very new12:07
arentoineTheSheep : How can enable it in configuration ?12:07
TheSheepnow that I have this floppy icon on my desktop anyways, I wantthe rest of them too :/12:07
TheSheeparentoine: you can't in xubuntu, in ubuntu you use gconf-editor12:08
TheSheepkalikiana: so, now it only lacks a xarchiver-like ftp and smb client :)12:08
cellofellowIn Feisty I could see an icon labelled fd0, but I didn't use it I don't use floppies much. Floppy's never show on my desktop.12:09
TheSheepcellofellow: it shows in feisty now12:09
cellofellowI know, I have it installed on hdb.12:09
cellofellowBut right now I'm using Edgy12:09
TheSheepI want an option to enable/disable desktop icons like trash and drives12:10
arentoineTheSheep : oh well ... tks12:10
cellofellowI'd like it if one could drag icons to the the Trash to unmount and eject like on Mac.12:10
cellofellowThat's been around on mac's since the beginning of time.12:11
TheSheepcellofellow: that's braindamaged :/12:11
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TheSheepcellofellow: what if you want to delete all files on the drive?12:12
Jester45linacdows the best OS ever12:12
cellofellowHow so? You would always be able to turn that feature off, it's linux.12:12
Jester45linux + mac + windows12:12
TheSheepcellofellow: yeah, by compiling my own xfce, like with the desktop icons12:12
cellofellowLinacdows? Linux kernel, Windows UI, and Apple apps?12:12
TheSheep:E12:12
cellofellowXFCE has lots of options.12:13
cellofellowwho needs to build from source 'cept devs?12:13
Jester45linux stability windows for gaming and mac;s options12:13
cellofellowoh, Bootcamp on x86 Apple computer. I see.12:14
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Jester45cellofellow: what DSL iso do you use from qemu?12:14
Jester45i built dillo from source12:15
cellofellowIt's an old 2.3. I haven't downloaded it in a while.12:15
cellofellowdillo schmillo12:15
Jester45yes but what kind of iso12:15
Jester45embedded syslinux vmx normal12:15
cellofellowThe Plain DSL image, isolinux bootloader. Isolinux == normal12:16
cellofellowsyslinux is for old computers.12:16
cellofellowthe ones that balk at boot on nomal.12:16
Jester45ftp://ftp.oss.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-3.1.iso if you want new one12:16
Jester45your a bit behind on version12:16
cellofellowI'm fine with 2.3. :)12:16
cellofellowwell, on the other hand, I'd love something that doesn't use the accursed Woody repo.12:17
cellofellowhere it comes12:17
Jester45TheSheep: whats your website again?12:18
Jester45here what comes12:18
cellofellowthe DSL 3.1 image12:18
Jester45%?12:18
cellofellowI'm dl-ing it12:18
Jester45im at 67%12:18
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Jester45qemued DSL cluster fun fun12:19
Jester45thats some power12:19
TheSheepJester45: http://sheep.art.pl12:20
Jester45ty12:21
Jester45TheSheep: do you speak a non-english ?12:26
cellofellowhe's polish12:26
Jester45www.art.pl  isnt english :)12:26

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