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Jester45 | im getting and error after trying to start my xgl gdm sesson | 01:01 |
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Jester45 | the error was somthing like exec: 5: cant find xfce-session anyone know how to fix this | 01:01 |
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Jester45 | can you start xgl/beryl from inside a normal xorg | 01:27 |
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Jester45 | i get this error when i try to start a xgl session | 01:46 |
bigfuzzyjesus | helo | 01:46 |
bigfuzzyjesus | hello | 01:46 |
bigfuzzyjesus | what do you think the easiest way to remote connect to a computer on my network would be, it would also need to be windows capable for accessing | 01:47 |
Jester45 | ssh | 01:49 |
Jester45 | !ssh | 01:49 |
ubotu | SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ | 01:49 |
Jester45 | its only cli i think | 01:49 |
bigfuzzyjesus | ok | 01:49 |
bigfuzzyjesus | is that command line interface | 01:50 |
bigfuzzyjesus | i want it to be graphical :( | 01:50 |
Jester45 | !VCN | 01:50 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about VCN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:50 |
Jester45 | !VNC | 01:50 |
ubotu | VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 01:50 |
Jester45 | the error is /etc/gdmPreSession/Default: Registering your session wih wtmp utmp | 01:53 |
Jester45 | /etc/gdmPreSession/Default: running: /use/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/usr/lib/gdm/:0.Xserver" -h"" -l ":0" "ryan" | 01:53 |
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badbrainz | I cant paste a Fluxbox style I downloaded to /usr/shar/fluxbox/styles I can copy & paste to home folder only. I'm running Xubuntu Edgy 64-bit. Do I need to login as root or something? | 02:01 |
Jester45 | what are you pasting | 02:01 |
Jester45 | you need to be root but you dont have to login as root | 02:02 |
Jester45 | try gksu Thunar | 02:02 |
badbrainz | I'm pasting a fluxbox style, as root but it didnt work. | 02:04 |
badbrainz | I was using Thunar | 02:04 |
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Jester45 | i dont know | 02:05 |
badbrainz | what is gksu? | 02:09 |
ormiret | !sudo | badbrainz | 02:11 |
ubotu | badbrainz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | 02:11 |
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Jester45 | i need help with xgl | 02:13 |
Jester45 | the session crashes with 3 font errors and 1 exec: 5: xfcesession: not found | 02:13 |
ormiret | Jester45: it should be looking for xfce4-session I think (never used xgl) | 02:19 |
Jester45 | ooops | 02:19 |
Jester45 | typo | 02:19 |
Jester45 | it is xfce-session | 02:20 |
Jester45 | o | 02:20 |
Jester45 | with a 4 | 02:20 |
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Jester45 | ok its working now | 02:25 |
Jester45 | would you happen to know hwo to use it | 02:26 |
cellofellow | use what? | 02:26 |
Jester45 | beryl | 02:26 |
cellofellow | nope | 02:26 |
cellofellow | ok, abiword sucks. It doesn't even do headers. | 02:27 |
Jester45 | mousepad it | 02:27 |
cellofellow | It's a document I made in OpenOffice on Edgy. | 02:28 |
cellofellow | Right now I'm in Feisty, and I haven't installed OOo yet, and don't intend to | 02:28 |
cellofellow | there, I do Insert Header, and it crashes | 02:29 |
cellofellow | well, I'm gonna reboot into edgy. BRB | 02:29 |
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Jester45 | when i open any window with xgl my system locks up anyone know why? | 02:53 |
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magic_ninja | anyone play diablo ii | 03:02 |
Jester45 | i used to | 03:02 |
Jester45 | untill a rcent patch made it hard to get stone of jordans | 03:02 |
Jester45 | why? | 03:03 |
magic_ninja | trying to find a working mh, i used to have one | 03:03 |
Jester45 | google mousepad | 03:04 |
magic_ninja | not wise | 03:04 |
magic_ninja | could loose your cd key doing that | 03:04 |
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Jester45 | not the newversion | 03:04 |
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somerville32 | Can you guys take this to offtopic? Thanks. | 03:05 |
Jester45 | never | 03:05 |
Jester45 | somerville32: do you use beryl | 03:05 |
somerville32 | Nope/ | 03:05 |
somerville32 | *Nope. | 03:05 |
Jester45 | darn | 03:06 |
Jester45 | brb gonna try it again | 03:06 |
Jester45 | i got xgl to wkor but somthing it messed up | 03:06 |
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somerville32 | :] | 03:10 |
semi-fly | :) | 03:10 |
semi-fly | I avoid Beryal / xgl / compiz... | 03:10 |
somerville32 | The built-in compositor for Xfce4 is good enough for me :) | 03:11 |
semi-fly | Nice looking effects, however. | 03:11 |
Jester45 | yep | 03:11 |
Jester45 | but... i dont know how to use them | 03:11 |
semi-fly | I second that, sommerville32 :) | 03:11 |
Jester45 | semi-fly: you use beryl b4? | 03:12 |
semi-fly | Yep...and compiz, as well. | 03:12 |
Jester45 | could you help me with it | 03:12 |
semi-fly | Mostly to see how efficient the rendering was. | 03:12 |
Jester45 | how do it get it to do stuff | 03:12 |
somerville32 | #ubuntu-xgl is a good place to check, Jester45, if you can't find help here | 03:12 |
Jester45 | nobody there | 03:13 |
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semi-fly | Well, do you have a specific problem, or does the application simply not work? | 03:13 |
Jester45 | im not sure if it working or not | 03:13 |
Jester45 | its no doing anything | 03:14 |
Jester45 | how do i try to get things ot change? like bending things | 03:14 |
somerville32 | !xgl | jester45 | 03:15 |
ubotu | jester45: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems | 03:15 |
semi-fly | Yep - you'd notice a difference right off the bat... | 03:15 |
Jester45 | yes | 03:15 |
semi-fly | It can be tricky to get working properly, and I've personally corrupted gtk configuration settings by enabling it, so i'd use it with caution :) | 03:16 |
Jester45 | semi-fly: im not trying to do anything fancy just to use any effect | 03:16 |
semi-fly | Did the Beryl menu load onto the bar? | 03:17 |
Jester45 | whats modifer keys | 03:17 |
Jester45 | yes | 03:17 |
bigfuzzyjesus | has anyone seen the ivue case for the ipod | 03:17 |
Jester45 | nope | 03:17 |
semi-fly | Oh, you probably have Xfce4...I've only installed Beryl under Gnome...lol :) | 03:17 |
Jester45 | yes i do | 03:17 |
Jester45 | on the modifer keys there is a "super" whats that? | 03:18 |
bigfuzzyjesus | !botnet | 03:18 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about botnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:18 |
semi-fly | Try locating the Beryl binary - if I remember correctly, you can run the Beryl menu tool from the command prompt. | 03:19 |
semi-fly | try 'beryl' then tab completion - see what the prompt displays :) | 03:19 |
Jester45 | you mean the beryl menu thing | 03:19 |
Jester45 | red dimond? | 03:19 |
Jester45 | i have that | 03:19 |
semi-fly | Should be loaded then... | 03:21 |
semi-fly | Just select some options and enable them...I've only used Beryl once, so it's hard to remember all the options lol | 03:21 |
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Jester45 | ok when i change the wm from xfce to beryl my system locks up | 03:26 |
Jester45 | nothing happens all i can do is move the mouse | 03:27 |
semi-fly | Well, you'r still using Xfce4 - Beryl simply runs on top of the WM, so to speak ( I think ). | 03:27 |
Jester45 | well on the settings manger there is a list of wm and when things work its fce but then when i switch it stop evrything | 03:28 |
Jester45 | and when fce is the wm no effects happen | 03:28 |
semi-fly | You might want to re-emerge, er I mean reinstall Beryl then check out: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu | 03:28 |
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semi-fly | Read up on this: http://m0n5t3r.info/blog/aiglx-beryl-xfce-gentoo.html has some tips for getting Xfce4 working with Beryl. | 03:30 |
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Jester45 | ok | 03:39 |
Jester45 | aaa | 03:39 |
Jester45 | i cant wait till spring | 03:39 |
Jester45 | i get new computer :) nvidia sli core duo and 2 gb ram to start then gonna upgraDE TO 4GB | 03:45 |
somerville32 | :) | 03:47 |
bigfuzzyjesus | Jester45, is 4gb of ram really neccisary | 03:47 |
Jester45 | yeps | 03:47 |
Jester45 | im going to keep windows on it | 03:48 |
Jester45 | better gaming | 03:48 |
Jester45 | its gonna have linux also | 03:48 |
Jester45 | dont know about sli and linux but im going to get it to work | 03:49 |
bigfuzzyjesus | i thought like 2 gigs was a large amount | 03:49 |
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Jester45 | its 1967 | 03:50 |
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bigfuzzyjesus | what all do you have open | 03:50 |
bigfuzzyjesus | i can surf the web listen to music chat and something else on my 512 machine | 03:51 |
Jester45 | azureus firefox gtk gnutella a few thunars | 03:51 |
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Jester45 | movie dvd conversion gaim | 03:51 |
Jester45 | and i think action cubve is on somewhere :) | 03:52 |
Jester45 | i dont keep my desktop very clean | 03:52 |
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Jester45 | azureus is using most of it | 03:53 |
cellofellow | I can try and try to fill my RAM, run OpenOffice and Eclipse and mutliple Firefox windows and I still can't max out my 319MB RAM. Swap is alway less than 100MB, and I have 1GB swap. | 03:53 |
Jester45 | i have 300 | 03:54 |
Jester45 | o | 03:55 |
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Jester45 | i have dsl in qemu open also | 03:55 |
Jester45 | thats a bit of it also | 03:55 |
cellofellow | ooh. I love doing that. | 03:55 |
Jester45 | my workspace is cluttered | 03:56 |
cellofellow | when I installed Feisty with qemu, it only used 128MB RAM, cause that's how much it uses. | 03:56 |
cellofellow | CPU it used like crazy. RAM was negligable. | 03:56 |
cellofellow | 128 max, it used less actually. | 03:56 |
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wallacew | How do I disable the password prompt on returning from a screensaver? | 04:00 |
somerville32 | Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Screensaver | 04:01 |
somerville32 | Uncheck "Lock screen" or similiar | 04:01 |
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wallacew | somerville32, Thanks! | 04:01 |
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Jester46 | cellofellow: what was the last thing i said to u | 04:34 |
Jester46 | wiw | 04:35 |
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Jester46 | kinda weird | 04:35 |
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Jester45 | cellofellow: you there? i wanna send you somthing | 04:37 |
cellofellow | I'm here | 04:38 |
cellofellow | now, sorry I was doing something else | 04:38 |
Jester45 | what was the last thing i said to you | 04:38 |
Jester45 | i lost connection a little bit ago | 04:38 |
Jester45 | b4 i was jester56 | 04:38 |
cellofellow | you wanted to send me something, but that was as Jester45. | 04:39 |
Jester45 | ok well i did say | 04:40 |
Jester45 | that qemu can use more ram if you tell it to | 04:40 |
cellofellow | I know | 04:40 |
cellofellow | I've read the man page, several times. | 04:41 |
Jester45 | and the thing i wanna send you is a movie of beryl with flame effect | 04:41 |
cellofellow | how big? | 04:41 |
Jester45 | <1mb | 04:42 |
cellofellow | shoot then! | 04:42 |
Jester45 | waiting | 04:42 |
Jester45 | do you know how ot recive? | 04:42 |
cellofellow | yes, do you know how to send it? I think you need to forward a port. | 04:43 |
cellofellow | 14s7 | 04:43 |
cellofellow | 1437 | 04:43 |
Jester45 | all my ports are forwarded | 04:43 |
cellofellow | hmmm | 04:43 |
cellofellow | try again | 04:44 |
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Jester45 | i all ways have this problem | 04:44 |
cellofellow | oh, here's the problem. I've trying to get from 192.168.0.100 instead of your outside address. | 04:44 |
cellofellow | <DCC can't connect to 192.168.1.4 port 2389> | 04:44 |
cellofellow | I can't get to you if you are pretending to be on my internal network. | 04:45 |
Jester45 | hehe | 04:45 |
cellofellow | why is it acting that way? | 04:45 |
Jester45 | im sneaky :) | 04:45 |
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Jester45 | im on your LAN cellofellow better check your house b4 you go to bed | 04:46 |
cellofellow | haha very funny. | 04:46 |
Jester45 | Boo | 04:47 |
kalikiana | Does anybody know if I can keep my nick on a reconnect in XChat? | 04:54 |
Jester45 | should | 04:55 |
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mynameisdeleted | hi | 05:01 |
Jester45 | hi | 05:01 |
mynameisdeleted | hi hi | 05:01 |
mynameisdeleted | anyone want to test my xubuntu mirror? | 05:02 |
Jester45 | sure | 05:03 |
mynameisdeleted | http://okser.net/xubuntu | 05:03 |
mynameisdeleted | download an iso and see how much bandwidth you can use | 05:03 |
Jester45 | what im i testing | 05:03 |
mynameisdeleted | its technically got a gigabit connection, so if its not loaded down there shouldn't be any way you can notice speed | 05:04 |
Jester45 | 53KB/s | 05:04 |
Jester45 | 10 now | 05:04 |
Jester45 | i think im uploading somthing | 05:05 |
mynameisdeleted | you must be on dialup | 05:05 |
kalikiana | i get 220kb :) | 05:05 |
kalikiana | (but i won't do a complete load now) | 05:05 |
mynameisdeleted | doesn't anyone have at least 100mbps to test with? | 05:05 |
Jester45 | lol | 05:06 |
kalikiana | :P | 05:06 |
Jester45 | im uploading somthing so im stuck low | 05:06 |
Jester45 | the max is get is 150kb/s | 05:06 |
kalikiana | I'm on 240kb/s | 05:06 |
mynameisdeleted | mason> wget -Y off -O /dev/null http://okser.net/xubuntu/feisty/herd-2/feisty-desktop-i386.iso | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | --23:07:02-- http://okser.net/xubuntu/feisty/herd-2/feisty-desktop-i386.iso | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | => `/dev/null' | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | Resolving okser.net... 66.117.32.83 | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | Connecting to okser.net[66.117.32.83] :80... connected. | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | Length: 579,028,992 [application/x-iso9660-image] | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | 9% [==> ] 53,204,612 10.94M/s ETA 00:45^ | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | that's on my schools connection | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | was over 11MB/s for a while | 05:07 |
Jester45 | cookage | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | if it writes to anythign other than /dev/null the hd slows the download speed | 05:07 |
mynameisdeleted | and a good test would be at least gigabit internet | 05:08 |
mynameisdeleted | which is almost impossible to find | 05:08 |
kalikiana | i get 250,50 kb/s for dev/null :D | 05:09 |
mynameisdeleted | on my schooll I can download a full linux iso that is 579MB in 50 seconds flat | 05:11 |
cellofellow | whoa | 05:11 |
mynameisdeleted | I don't think any of the ubuntu mirrors support that now | 05:11 |
mynameisdeleted | but mine might change if it gets loaded | 05:11 |
mynameisdeleted | this makes most of your bandwidth not show up on my meter | 05:12 |
mynameisdeleted | tilll it scrolls off the charge | 05:12 |
mynameisdeleted | chart | 05:12 |
Jester45 | i did have a 1gb/s free file host | 05:12 |
Jester45 | lost the name | 05:13 |
Jester45 | they supported torrents also | 05:13 |
mynameisdeleted | I work for a hosting company | 05:13 |
mynameisdeleted | in a datacenter | 05:13 |
mynameisdeleted | and am using a computer from a former customer who didn't pay his internet bills | 05:13 |
mynameisdeleted | for several months and wend bankrupt | 05:14 |
Jester45 | do you have ftp? | 05:15 |
Jester45 | i could test that | 05:15 |
mynameisdeleted | if I installed that | 05:15 |
mynameisdeleted | I haven't yet | 05:15 |
mynameisdeleted | it runs regular ubuntu but without X | 05:15 |
mynameisdeleted | therefor not xubuntu | 05:15 |
Jester45 | im sorry | 05:16 |
mynameisdeleted | ftp bandwidth won't be any different than http sincce they both use tcp/ip | 05:16 |
mynameisdeleted | you have a recommended ftp server? | 05:16 |
Jester45 | nope | 05:18 |
Jester45 | but i have a way to test your speed with ftp | 05:18 |
Jester45 | you should see torrents dl at 30mbs | 05:19 |
Jester45 | very bad for ratio :( | 05:19 |
mynameisdeleted | if you leave them up overnight you make the upload back normally | 05:19 |
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Jester45 | but its hard to get that many people to dl that much | 05:20 |
Jester45 | i use that on torrents with like 11k seeds | 05:20 |
Jester45 | the few | 05:20 |
mynameisdeleted | ftp://okser.net | 05:22 |
Jester45 | ok | 05:22 |
cellofellow | Jester45: what'd you use to get that burning windows video? | 05:22 |
mynameisdeleted | beryl has a plugin for that | 05:22 |
Jester45 | i used the amazing google | 05:22 |
Jester45 | thats what it is | 05:22 |
cellofellow | what program? or does google have a screencapture program? | 05:23 |
Jester45 | http://69.179.135.241/apache2-default/XGLBerylburneffect.avi | 05:23 |
Jester45 | it wasnt me | 05:23 |
Jester45 | silly cellofellow | 05:23 |
cellofellow | Oh. I tought you were showing me that cause you were happy you got Beryl working. | 05:23 |
cellofellow | You've been trying all week. | 05:23 |
Jester45 | nope | 05:24 |
mynameisdeleted | I have beryl working | 05:24 |
Jester45 | still breaks my computer | 05:24 |
Jester45 | brb | 05:24 |
mynameisdeleted | it will work much bbetter with my new computer | 05:24 |
mynameisdeleted | with a 256MB graphics card instead of one with only 8MB video memroy | 05:24 |
cellofellow | beryl wouldn't start here. That's when I quit. I have PIII Katmai and a TNT2 with 32MB Vid Memory. Didn't work too well. | 05:25 |
mynameisdeleted | video memory is only a n issue if I have more than 10 windws open or du full window burns | 05:25 |
mynameisdeleted | menu burns are fine | 05:25 |
cellofellow | I often have like 3 windows per workspace open, at least, and 4 workspaces. | 05:25 |
mynameisdeleted | any "vista ready" computer should be able to run beryl nicely if set up right | 05:26 |
mynameisdeleted | I think | 05:26 |
mynameisdeleted | with proper 3d drivers | 05:26 |
cellofellow | nvidia cards then all the way. | 05:26 |
Jester45 | i have 4 workspaces | 05:27 |
Jester45 | but only use 1 | 05:27 |
cellofellow | haha | 05:27 |
Jester45 | its an old windows habit | 05:27 |
mynameisdeleted | ftp://okser.net/feisty/herd-2/feisty-desktop-i386.iso | 05:27 |
mynameisdeleted | that's an ftp url to test | 05:27 |
cellofellow | Mine are named Appspace, Netspace, Codespace, and Outerspace. I organized them | 05:27 |
mynameisdeleted | if you have a speed tester for ftp | 05:27 |
Jester45 | mine are named 1 2 3 4 | 05:28 |
cellofellow | that's the default. :) | 05:28 |
mynameisdeleted | I like jester45's names better | 05:28 |
Jester45 | cellofellow: are you still dl from me? | 05:28 |
cellofellow | yeah | 05:28 |
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Jester45 | cellofellow: how far? ETA? | 05:28 |
cellofellow | it's at 64% | 05:28 |
cellofellow | no, more than that | 05:29 |
cellofellow | I think | 05:29 |
Jester45 | you killing my torrents | 05:29 |
cellofellow | you gave me the link | 05:29 |
Jester45 | sill | 05:29 |
Jester45 | couldnt you have dail up for somthing | 05:29 |
cellofellow | :/ | 05:30 |
cellofellow | what do you meen? | 05:30 |
Jester45 | you dl is to fast | 05:31 |
Jester45 | taking all my upload | 05:31 |
cellofellow | it's at 16-18KBps. | 05:31 |
cellofellow | I can do 30KBps when I connect to a faster server. | 05:32 |
Jester45 | sorry | 05:32 |
Jester45 | im sharing you with gtk-gnutella and azureus | 05:32 |
cellofellow | heh, home servers are always sort of slow. That's why distributed P2P stuff is faster. | 05:33 |
cellofellow | like torrent | 05:33 |
mynameisdeleted | my server is prob faster than p2p | 05:33 |
cellofellow | prolly faster than my DL speed. | 05:34 |
mynameisdeleted | I have cable to my home | 05:34 |
mynameisdeleted | and another server on fios | 05:34 |
cellofellow | I have cheap DSL. | 05:34 |
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Jester45 | mynameisdeleted: the top speed i got was 39mb/s but that didnt last long | 05:43 |
Jester45 | sorry about the delay | 05:43 |
Jester45 | still good | 05:43 |
mynameisdeleted | supposedly its way better than that | 05:43 |
Jester45 | try a speed test website | 05:43 |
mynameisdeleted | I think its faster than most of those too | 05:44 |
Jester45 | well the line i was testing from gets a max of 60mb/s but thats when its the only transfer | 05:44 |
mynameisdeleted | if you know a good one let me know | 05:44 |
Jester45 | many ppl are using it so it could be slowed down | 05:44 |
Jester45 | google knows | 05:44 |
Jester45 | try a google search for "speed test 1gb" | 05:45 |
Jester45 | mynameisdeleted: could i get a ftp account with you? | 05:47 |
Jester45 | or how about running a repo? | 05:50 |
mynameisdeleted | what type? | 05:51 |
Jester45 | ubuntu | 05:52 |
mynameisdeleted | cvs? | 05:52 |
mynameisdeleted | or svn? | 05:52 |
Jester45 | i was just kidding about hte repo | 05:52 |
Jester45 | deb | 05:52 |
mynameisdeleted | ok | 05:52 |
Jester45 | but how about hte ftp | 05:52 |
Jester45 | aa | 05:52 |
Jester45 | The is the wost word for me to type | 05:53 |
mynameisdeleted | a full ubuntu debian packages mirror takes 190gb | 05:53 |
mynameisdeleted | which is more space than I have on that server | 05:53 |
mynameisdeleted | unless I upgrade | 05:53 |
Jester45 | o | 05:53 |
Jester45 | well could i have ftp ? it would be nice | 05:53 |
mynameisdeleted | but I have a server with 12 drive slots which if I fill up will be able to do that | 05:53 |
mynameisdeleted | I run an xubuntu mirror on it | 05:54 |
mynameisdeleted | so you can download isos fast | 05:54 |
Jester45 | i dont need iso | 05:54 |
mynameisdeleted | true | 05:55 |
mynameisdeleted | biggest download need is faster apt-get | 05:55 |
Jester45 | yep | 05:55 |
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Jester45 | ubuntu should use a free file host | 05:55 |
Jester45 | they are fast and the repos would be used often so it wouldnt get deleted | 05:56 |
Jester45 | humm | 06:04 |
Jester45 | well i have to go | 06:09 |
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grumpymole | hello | 06:32 |
grumpymole | i have got an extra panel on my xubuntu desktop and i can't seem to get rid of it | 06:32 |
grumpymole | any ideas? | 06:32 |
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backtick | hi all, I've installed the "xfce" package on kubuntu edgy and when I login to xfce (though the kdm) I just get a blank black screen and the mouse pointer, any ideas? | 08:25 |
backtick | s/though/through | 08:26 |
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TheSheep | backtick: can you switch to console then (alt+ctrl+f1), log in and execute 'ps x'? | 08:26 |
TheSheep | and see if xfce4-session is listed | 08:27 |
backtick | ok will try | 08:28 |
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backtick | TheSheep: no xfce4-session is not present in the process list | 08:41 |
backtick | i tried to launch xfce4-panel from the termianl and got a seg fault | 08:42 |
TheSheep | backtick: seems like your system is broken | 08:45 |
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TheSheep | backtick: can you launch the xfce4-seession? | 08:45 |
backtick | well i started a session next to kde | 08:45 |
backtick | and there's a " 5326 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/xfce4-session" | 08:46 |
backtick | but it just shows a blue background | 08:46 |
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dag_dg | nfs networking, xfce, tried it on this comp(running xubuntu, and another, running ubuntu) mounting via nfs, both say the nfs server is down | 10:39 |
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oem | anyone able to tell me how to fix the repository list | 01:13 |
TheSheep | !easysource | 01:13 |
ubotu | source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic | 01:13 |
oem | thanks | 01:13 |
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hyper_ch | hiho, I have problems getting into the admin stuff | 01:57 |
oem | how do I edit the sources list for the repositories | 02:02 |
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hyper__ch | TheSheep: you're there? | 02:06 |
semi-fly | oem, type 'nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list' | 02:10 |
semi-fly | sudo before that... | 02:10 |
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icheyne | does anyone here use a Radeon 9250 or other 92** card and use the open-source driver? | 02:51 |
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hyper__ch | anyone knows where the gpg keys are being saved? | 03:02 |
TheSheep | hyper__ch: in ~/.gpg I presume | 03:03 |
hyper__ch | TheSheep: and do you know why I can't access certain admin stuff like networking anymore? | 03:03 |
TheSheep | um, ~/.gnupg | 03:04 |
TheSheep | hyper__ch: it's broken in feisty, they forgot to add gksudo to launchers | 03:04 |
hyper__ch | TheSheep: it's edgy | 03:04 |
TheSheep | :/ | 03:04 |
hyper__ch | TheSheep: I did a reinstall yesterday... but left the /home partition as it was | 03:05 |
hyper__ch | TheSheep: but I still can't access it | 03:05 |
hyper__ch | TheSheep: The configuration could not be loaded. You are not allowed to access the system configuration | 03:06 |
TheSheep | hyper__ch: I've got the same | 03:07 |
TheSheep | hyper__ch: just run them with sudo | 03:07 |
hyper__ch | TheSheep: ok | 03:08 |
TheSheep | ubuntu+1 should be called greedy gnome :3 | 03:09 |
hyper__ch | I guess I'm going to test herd 2 (again) | 03:11 |
hyper__ch | shall I leave the /home partition as it is? Will it alter something? | 03:11 |
TheSheep | should be ok | 03:11 |
hyper__ch | ok :) | 03:11 |
hyper__ch | TheSheep: one more question: I have 3 diskdrives attached to the IDE channels (plus one dvd-rewriter) and one diskdrive is using sata... will that be a problem due to the naming? | 03:16 |
hyper__ch | I think you told me that hda will be renamed to sda | 03:17 |
hyper__ch | so I will have like two sda? | 03:17 |
TheSheep | you will have sda, sdb, sdc, sdd and sde | 03:17 |
TheSheep | probably | 03:17 |
TheSheep | not sure :) | 03:17 |
hyper__ch | lol :) | 03:17 |
hyper__ch | I'll try... they are all of different sizes | 03:18 |
hyper__ch | 60GB, 120 GB, 160 GB, 300 GB | 03:18 |
hyper__ch | bye | 03:18 |
hyper__ch | bye | 03:18 |
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Commander-Crowe | hey all | 04:58 |
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hyper_ch | TheSheep: Still the same old problem with Fiesty :( Grub doesn't want to load the right partitions anymore | 05:21 |
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trectior2 | hola buenas | 05:22 |
trectior2 | alguien me puede echar una mano? | 05:22 |
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trectior2 | hablais castellano? | 05:22 |
hyper_ch | !es | 05:22 |
ubotu | Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda. | 05:22 |
trectior2 | ok sorry | 05:22 |
TheSheep | hyper_ch: change root=hdaX to root=sdaX in grub's config | 05:23 |
hyper_ch | TheSheep: well, grub did then something like: root(hda1,5) | 05:23 |
hyper_ch | that's what I got when I edited the start entry | 05:24 |
TheSheep | (hd1, 5) | 05:24 |
hyper_ch | sorry, it was: root(hd1,5) | 05:24 |
TheSheep | that's ok | 05:24 |
hyper_ch | but what does that mean? what do I have to change it to? | 05:24 |
TheSheep | no | 05:24 |
hyper_ch | where do I then alter something? | 05:24 |
TheSheep | /boot/grub/menu.lst | 05:24 |
hyper_ch | how to access that from a freshly installed fiesty? | 05:25 |
hyper_ch | feisty :) | 05:25 |
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hyper_ch | TheSheep: and the isntallation took very long... I got quite a few blue screens where for some time nothing happened | 05:29 |
Ro_Vai | blue screen?? | 05:30 |
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hyper_ch | Ro_Vai: during install of Feisty Herd 2... there were long time intervals where nothing was on the screen... just the blue background | 05:30 |
Ro_Vai | did you just upgrade from edgy or use a cd | 05:31 |
Ro_Vai | and what kind of cd | 05:31 |
hyper_ch | Ro_Vai: no upgrade... fresh isntall with alternate xubuntu | 05:32 |
hyper_ch | Text Mode | 05:32 |
hyper_ch | Ro_Vai: why so interested? | 05:32 |
hyper_ch | Ro_Vai: I tested kubuntu feisty herd 1 several weeks ago.... nothing like that happened there (except for the grub problem) | 05:33 |
Ro_Vai | the blue screen coulda just been because things were configuring your video | 05:33 |
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hyper_ch | Ro_Vai: they appeared when I tested for cd defects, they appears before probing for hardware, before the partiton menu, ...... all the time | 05:35 |
Ro_Vai | no clue then i just upgraded from edgy no cd ^.^ | 05:36 |
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hyper_ch | Ro_Vai: ^^ | 05:36 |
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dssd | qwill next ubuntu have good fonts | 05:41 |
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trectior2 | hello, later install xubuntu 6.10 i don't know config users, aplications,... because i don't have anywhere config. | 05:52 |
kalikiana | trectior2: what exactly do you need to know? | 05:54 |
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trectior2 | I NEED TO FORM USERS AND TO INSTALL PROGRAMS IN XUBUNTU, AND TO BE ABLE TO ACCEDE TO THE USERS' CONFIGURATION. | 05:58 |
kalikiana | trectior2: please don't SHOUT :) | 06:01 |
kalikiana | use synaptic, located in the Applications -> System menu to install programs | 06:01 |
trectior2 | yes but i dont have internet | 06:02 |
trectior2 | and i dont have synaptic access direct | 06:02 |
trectior2 | i need open terminal and write | 06:02 |
trectior2 | sudo synaptic and password to use synaptic | 06:02 |
trectior2 | sorry my english is very bad | 06:03 |
trectior2 | and shout it's for soft of translate.. xD | 06:03 |
kalikiana | as long as you can access the internet on another computer, you can download any ubuntu deb package and install it with a double-click | 06:06 |
kalikiana | gonme-files.org is a good source, for example | 06:07 |
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kalikiana | gnomefiles.org that is :) | 06:07 |
icheyne | does anyone here have a Radeon 9200 or 9250 card running the open-source driver? How well do they run? | 06:10 |
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dssd | qwill next ubuntu have good fonts | 06:41 |
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CPF_ | Ok, how do I change my login image (I mean, that one where you have to enter your user/pass?) | 07:07 |
CPF_ | anyone???? | 07:08 |
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slow-motion | bbl | 07:17 |
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Maximilian1st | hi all | 08:01 |
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PuMpErNiCkLe | hi you | 08:02 |
Maximilian1st | Hi, | 08:02 |
Maximilian1st | I was wondering if one already tried installing the new feisty beta... | 08:03 |
Maximilian1st | I have it hanging here on the sk98lin driver | 08:03 |
Maximilian1st | I know there is a website for logging the problems one could encounter with the beta CD but I can't rememeber where it is... Do you? | 08:04 |
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Maximilian1st | oopsy... | 08:07 |
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Maximilian1st | Hey somerville32. | 08:19 |
Maximilian1st | You asked me to test the feisty CD. | 08:19 |
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Maximilian1st | I am right now testing it on a laptop and the install hangs at the | 08:19 |
Maximilian1st | sk98lin driver loading or so... | 08:20 |
Maximilian1st | But the overall looks ok. | 08:20 |
Maximilian1st | Should I report this driver hang or is it not something they, or you are looking for. | 08:21 |
somerville32 | Are you using the desktop-cd or live-cd? | 08:22 |
Maximilian1st | I can't tell | 08:22 |
somerville32 | k, one second | 08:22 |
Maximilian1st | I downloaded the first iso from the page I can't find anymore... | 08:24 |
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Maximilian1st | somerville32: I tried installing for the second time now. I'll be away for 15-20 minutes... kid wants a story. | 08:27 |
somerville32 | Alrighty :) | 08:27 |
somerville32 | Chat with you then | 08:27 |
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cellofellow | morning | 08:55 |
Maximilian1st | evening | 08:57 |
cellofellow | different time zones, eh? | 08:58 |
somerville32 | afternoon :) \o/ | 08:58 |
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Maximilian1st | somerville32: I'm back. Do you know how to see if the installation hangs or what? | 09:01 |
Maximilian1st | Stupid question from me cause it just seems to hang for the second time on the same place as before... | 09:01 |
somerville32 | Maximilian1st, 1. Are you using the desktop cd or alternative cd? The desktop cd is the one with the live cd desktop and the alternative is the text-based installer. | 09:01 |
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Maximilian1st | ok, desktop. | 09:01 |
cellofellow | alt should work if all else fails. | 09:02 |
somerville32 | Maximilian1st, I would report the bug on malone | 09:02 |
somerville32 | !bugs | 09:02 |
ubotu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots | 09:02 |
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Maximilian1st | Should I give it special name so you know it is for the "feisty beta live CD"? | 09:05 |
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somerville32 | Maximilian1st, put [feisty] in the title | 09:06 |
somerville32 | Assign it to ubiquity | 09:07 |
somerville32 | and give as much info as you can in the description field | 09:07 |
somerville32 | Also, if you can, attach logs | 09:07 |
Maximilian1st | I see it is already there. | 09:07 |
cellofellow | I have 3 OS's on my computer. Edgy, Feisty, and DSL in a QEMU image. | 09:07 |
Maximilian1st | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/79340 | 09:07 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 79340 in ubiquity "Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller (sk98lin) Hangs Ubiquity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 09:07 |
Maximilian1st | That's it. | 09:08 |
somerville32 | Confirm it | 09:09 |
somerville32 | Change the status from "Unconfirmed" to "Confirmed" | 09:09 |
Maximilian1st | This is when using the desktop live cd, what about the alternative CD. Is there a way to circumvent the driver loading? | 09:09 |
somerville32 | Maximilian1st, I'm sure there is for the alternative cd. | 09:10 |
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cellofellow | ooops. I'm back now | 09:15 |
Maximilian1st | Well, now I am stuck with this laptop not working and Xfce releases this week-end and I have plenty to upload! :-/ | 09:17 |
somerville32 | Maximilian1st, Did you try the alternative install? | 09:18 |
Maximilian1st | I give the alternative CD a shot. | 09:18 |
somerville32 | Maximilian1st, Are you a debian maintainer? | 09:18 |
Maximilian1st | Was just answering that. | 09:18 |
Maximilian1st | Nope a translation committer for Xfce and translator for the french Xfce. | 09:18 |
somerville32 | Ah, kk | 09:19 |
somerville32 | Do you use launchpad? | 09:19 |
Maximilian1st | For the translations? | 09:19 |
Maximilian1st | If that is your question, I translate directly in SVN. | 09:19 |
somerville32 | Ok | 09:20 |
somerville32 | You should consider using launchpad, hehe | 09:20 |
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Maximilian1st | This is work done two times. The main translations have to be in the new releases, but I already had a thought about helping bring the translations in launchpad up to date... | 09:23 |
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Maximilian1st | But for now I have to bring back my desktop to life on this laptop. Please be so kind to remind me of the place I downloaded this beta of feisty, so I can pick the sescond link, alternative... | 09:26 |
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Maximilian1st | !herd2 | 09:34 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about herd2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 09:34 |
somerville32 | !testing | 09:35 |
ubotu | For information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu and for the results matrix, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Xubuntu/Current | 09:35 |
somerville32 | Maximilian1st, You just import the po* files and then you can export them once you're done translating them | 09:35 |
Maximilian1st | testing that was the key word. Thx. I searched the bot for herd... somerville32 You mean for the launchpad thing? | 09:36 |
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Maximilian1st | As soon as Xfce 4.4 will be out, I'll give a serious check at the launchpad French translations. | 09:38 |
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somerville32 | k | 09:38 |
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Terzian | can anyone help with a Xubuntu install? | 10:14 |
somerville32 | Sure ; ) | 10:14 |
Terzian | OK, booting from install CD, spash screen comes up for a while then screen blanks with blinking cursor at upper left | 10:15 |
somerville32 | Are you using the live cd or alternative cd? | 10:16 |
Terzian | 6.10 desktop cd | 10:17 |
Terzian | is this a live cd as well? | 10:17 |
somerville32 | Yup | 10:17 |
somerville32 | I'd try using the alternative cd | 10:18 |
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Terzian | is there a way to show the console messages instead of the splash screen? | 10:19 |
somerville32 | crtl+alt+f6, I think | 10:19 |
somerville32 | or one of the function keys | 10:19 |
dosnlinux | not sure if this matters any, but the home page for 6.10 says 6.06 | 10:19 |
Terzian | ok, thanks | 10:20 |
somerville32 | dosnlinux, Known issue. Fixed in 7.04 :) | 10:20 |
dosnlinux | ah, ok | 10:20 |
dosnlinux | I had to double check the iso to make sure I downloaded the right version :P | 10:20 |
dosnlinux | although .04 difference probably won't make much of a difference | 10:21 |
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dosnlinux | much better now ;) | 10:26 |
kalikiana | Does anybody know a tool to optimize an svg image? | 10:26 |
dosnlinux | inkscape | 10:26 |
kalikiana | I said optimize, not created - which I did. :) | 10:27 |
dosnlinux | the gimp to, but to a lesser degree | 10:27 |
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kalikiana | I'd for example want to round numbers, but not by hand. :/ | 10:27 |
dosnlinux | oh, how is that done? | 10:27 |
kalikiana | All the coordinates and such are like 66.456344 which is a waste of space. | 10:28 |
dosnlinux | maybe using sed in a bash script? | 10:28 |
dosnlinux | awk might be better | 10:31 |
kalikiana | I'll probably use python then, I'm better at that. :/ | 10:31 |
kalikiana | But I find it strange that there is no tool for that. | 10:32 |
dosnlinux | I'd think your svg tool would have something like that | 10:32 |
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dosnlinux | but I usually work with png's ;) | 10:33 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: there is such a tool | 10:33 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: you just need to configure it a little bit | 10:33 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: the tool is called "perl" ;) | 10:33 |
kalikiana | TheSheep: I will neither do perl nor bash. :-o | 10:34 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: why cripple yourself? | 10:35 |
dosnlinux | python should work just fine | 10:35 |
TheSheep | any turing-complee language will -- even Whitespace. It's juts a question of work involved. | 10:38 |
TheSheep | s/ee/ete | 10:38 |
kalikiana | I could even use Shakespeare Programming Language *g | 10:38 |
dosnlinux | lol, first time I heard of that one | 10:40 |
dosnlinux | someone put a lot of work coming up with all those names :P | 10:41 |
kalikiana | it's like asm wrapped in a nice theatre play | 10:41 |
dosnlinux | code is art ;) | 10:41 |
dosnlinux | where's a good place to check out how xubuntu has acpi configured? | 10:45 |
somerville32 | !acpi | dosnlinux | 10:46 |
ubotu | acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64) | 10:46 |
somerville32 | Hrmpg | 10:46 |
somerville32 | Thats not what I want | 10:46 |
kalikiana | :P | 10:46 |
crimsun | !acpi-support | 10:47 |
ubotu | acpi-support: a collection of useful events for acpi. In component main, is optional. Version 0.90 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 724 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64) | 10:47 |
dosnlinux | thanks | 10:48 |
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Eaglewolf | I'm having some trouble getting the 6.10 installer to boot on my laptop. It's a sony vaio pcg-r505ts. I get to the boot menu, but when I select the start/install option, or the start in safe mode option, it doesn't work there. I think it may be a video driver issue | 11:14 |
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somerville32 | Eaglewolf, You might try the alternative cd | 11:18 |
Eaglewolf | Yea, I'm downloading it right now | 11:19 |
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dosnlinux | what's the difference between the desktop cd and alternate? | 11:23 |
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TheSheep | dosnlinux: alternate cd has an installer working in text mode, desktop cd is a livecd with a graphical installer | 11:24 |
dosnlinux | ah | 11:24 |
dosnlinux | I saw "choose this if your unsure" and downloaded alternate | 11:25 |
dosnlinux | that was before I realized desktop x86 said the same thing | 11:25 |
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Jester45 | hello world | 11:38 |
somerville32 | Hello Jester45 | 11:38 |
Jester45 | how you doing? | 11:41 |
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cellofellow | Where's the World that Jester45 is hello-ing? | 11:48 |
Jester45 | yep | 11:48 |
cellofellow | where is it? | 11:49 |
Jester45 | the Sun | 11:49 |
Jester45 | its hot over here | 11:49 |
cellofellow | I have an Edgy DVD that I think I can use for installing LAMP from. Is that a good idea? I'm going to try Drupal. | 11:50 |
Jester45 | anyone know of a ftp file host? | 11:53 |
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cellofellow | cool. when some of the packages were old on the DVD, it downloaded from the repos. The current ones, from the DVD. | 11:58 |
Eaglewolf | That's nice | 11:59 |
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arentoine | Hello all, if I have mounted share drives in /media/ directory, will they show up on my desktop ? | 12:00 |
arentoine | The drives are smbfs mount point from my file server | 12:02 |
Jester45 | i dont t hink they will | 12:03 |
Jester45 | think* | 12:03 |
arentoine | cause, dvd drive, for example, do | 12:03 |
cellofellow | that's HAL that does that, and since SMBFS isn't hardware, it won't show on the desktop. | 12:04 |
TheSheep | arentoine: you can make a link or launcher though | 12:04 |
cellofellow | I mount my smbfs in ~/mnt, and it doesn't show on desktop. | 12:04 |
cellofellow | yeah | 12:04 |
arentoine | ok, that's why I have to create manual links | 12:05 |
TheSheep | cellofellow: I think the non-xubuntu xfce shows mounts on the desktop :/ | 12:05 |
cellofellow | hmm | 12:05 |
arentoine | I'm not sure, but I think I read something about this on other Ubuntu distro | 12:06 |
cellofellow | Dreamlinux maybe? | 12:06 |
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TheSheep | arentoine: normal ubuntu might also show them -- it uses Nautilus | 12:06 |
TheSheep | arentoine: if it doesn't by default, you can enable it in configuration | 12:07 |
kalikiana | there is the new thunar volume manager :) | 12:07 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: is it in repos yet? :3 | 12:07 |
cellofellow | I know KDE can be made to do that. | 12:07 |
kalikiana | http://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-volman/index.html | 12:07 |
kalikiana | it's very new | 12:07 |
arentoine | TheSheep : How can enable it in configuration ? | 12:07 |
TheSheep | now that I have this floppy icon on my desktop anyways, I wantthe rest of them too :/ | 12:07 |
TheSheep | arentoine: you can't in xubuntu, in ubuntu you use gconf-editor | 12:08 |
TheSheep | kalikiana: so, now it only lacks a xarchiver-like ftp and smb client :) | 12:08 |
cellofellow | In Feisty I could see an icon labelled fd0, but I didn't use it I don't use floppies much. Floppy's never show on my desktop. | 12:09 |
TheSheep | cellofellow: it shows in feisty now | 12:09 |
cellofellow | I know, I have it installed on hdb. | 12:09 |
cellofellow | But right now I'm using Edgy | 12:09 |
TheSheep | I want an option to enable/disable desktop icons like trash and drives | 12:10 |
arentoine | TheSheep : oh well ... tks | 12:10 |
cellofellow | I'd like it if one could drag icons to the the Trash to unmount and eject like on Mac. | 12:10 |
cellofellow | That's been around on mac's since the beginning of time. | 12:11 |
TheSheep | cellofellow: that's braindamaged :/ | 12:11 |
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TheSheep | cellofellow: what if you want to delete all files on the drive? | 12:12 |
Jester45 | linacdows the best OS ever | 12:12 |
cellofellow | How so? You would always be able to turn that feature off, it's linux. | 12:12 |
Jester45 | linux + mac + windows | 12:12 |
TheSheep | cellofellow: yeah, by compiling my own xfce, like with the desktop icons | 12:12 |
cellofellow | Linacdows? Linux kernel, Windows UI, and Apple apps? | 12:12 |
TheSheep | :E | 12:12 |
cellofellow | XFCE has lots of options. | 12:13 |
cellofellow | who needs to build from source 'cept devs? | 12:13 |
Jester45 | linux stability windows for gaming and mac;s options | 12:13 |
cellofellow | oh, Bootcamp on x86 Apple computer. I see. | 12:14 |
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Jester45 | cellofellow: what DSL iso do you use from qemu? | 12:14 |
Jester45 | i built dillo from source | 12:15 |
cellofellow | It's an old 2.3. I haven't downloaded it in a while. | 12:15 |
cellofellow | dillo schmillo | 12:15 |
Jester45 | yes but what kind of iso | 12:15 |
Jester45 | embedded syslinux vmx normal | 12:15 |
cellofellow | The Plain DSL image, isolinux bootloader. Isolinux == normal | 12:16 |
cellofellow | syslinux is for old computers. | 12:16 |
cellofellow | the ones that balk at boot on nomal. | 12:16 |
Jester45 | ftp://ftp.oss.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-3.1.iso if you want new one | 12:16 |
Jester45 | your a bit behind on version | 12:16 |
cellofellow | I'm fine with 2.3. :) | 12:16 |
cellofellow | well, on the other hand, I'd love something that doesn't use the accursed Woody repo. | 12:17 |
cellofellow | here it comes | 12:17 |
Jester45 | TheSheep: whats your website again? | 12:18 |
Jester45 | here what comes | 12:18 |
cellofellow | the DSL 3.1 image | 12:18 |
Jester45 | %? | 12:18 |
cellofellow | I'm dl-ing it | 12:18 |
Jester45 | im at 67% | 12:18 |
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Jester45 | qemued DSL cluster fun fun | 12:19 |
Jester45 | thats some power | 12:19 |
TheSheep | Jester45: http://sheep.art.pl | 12:20 |
Jester45 | ty | 12:21 |
Jester45 | TheSheep: do you speak a non-english ? | 12:26 |
cellofellow | he's polish | 12:26 |
Jester45 | www.art.pl isnt english :) | 12:26 |
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