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| cbx33 | ping ogra sent you a mail.... | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | comments please when yo uare available | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | I need a little guidence before I can continue | 10:01 |
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| willvdl | ola | 12:39 |
| highvoltage | 'ola | 12:41 |
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| juliux | hi, can somebody test something with the ltsp-build-client skript? | 01:38 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 01:43 |
| ogra | cbx33, pong | 01:50 |
| ogra | juliux, whats wrong ? | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | ogra: did you get my mail? | 01:51 |
| ogra | cbx33, yep | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | cool | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | does it look ok? | 01:51 |
| ogra | cbx33, the idea was to have something like an SCP class we can import into either kind of frontend | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | oh | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | that's how I've done it | 01:52 |
| cbx33 | but then | 01:52 |
| juliux | ogra, if i run the ltps-build-client with the --mirror option and i added my mirror with the name and not the ip, i get an error that it can resolve the name | 01:52 |
| cbx33 | how will that work if we're aiming for this multiple server control | 01:52 |
| ogra | the class should only provide the functions ... | 01:53 |
| ogra | what i mean is that you dont need an scp-backend ... but import the class into some kind of frontend .... be it curses, gtk or kde | 01:54 |
| cbx33 | ok | 01:54 |
| ogra | look how Amaranth did it in willow | 01:54 |
| cbx33 | yeh i've done that.... | 01:54 |
| Amaranth | oops | 01:54 |
| Amaranth | ogra: what's wrong with willowng in feisty? | 01:55 |
| cbx33 | ogra: so....thats fine | 01:55 |
| ogra | i'm doing something similar to ltsp-manager atm | 01:55 |
| cbx33 | but | 01:55 |
| cbx33 | how is the multiple server control going to work? | 01:55 |
| Amaranth | other than the broken error pages | 01:55 |
| === Amaranth might look at that today | ||
| ogra | you will have a server tool that attaches to the class .... | 01:55 |
| Amaranth | and at least poke the gconf bits to make epiphany use it | 01:55 |
| ogra | to which you connect over the network | 01:56 |
| cbx33 | ah right | 01:56 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 01:56 |
| cbx33 | so we need to setup a port for it to communicate over etc | 01:57 |
| ogra | actually thats only another frontend but reading and writing is done from the net | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | and design a protocol? | 01:57 |
| ogra | no | 01:57 |
| ogra | we have ssh | 01:57 |
| ogra | as the spec describes ... | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | yeh, I kinda got lost a little....sorry | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | I don't want to make the same mistake as I did last time | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | if you remember | 01:58 |
| ogra | well, much of that was caused by the poor spec | 01:58 |
| cbx33 | so | 01:58 |
| cbx33 | how will the new gui | 01:58 |
| cbx33 | contact the server backend on a remote server? | 01:58 |
| ogra | what i want to be able to do is have a script like that: | 01:58 |
| ogra | #!/usr/bin/python | 01:59 |
| ogra | import SCPClass | 01:59 |
| ogra | userlist=SCPClass.list_users() | 01:59 |
| ogra | print userlist | 01:59 |
| cbx33 | yes that's how I've done it | 02:00 |
| ogra | now i can call the above script via ssh and will get the userlist returned | 02:00 |
| cbx33 | oh i see | 02:01 |
| cbx33 | ok.... | 02:01 |
| cbx33 | so....how is that script called? | 02:01 |
| ogra | pick a name :) | 02:01 |
| ogra | i really dont care ... | 02:01 |
| cbx33 | where does the script reside | 02:01 |
| cbx33 | or is it dynamically generated? | 02:01 |
| ogra | thats the script you write as network backend ... | 02:02 |
| Amaranth | oh, the config GUI is broken :/ | 02:02 |
| cbx33 | surely then I'd need many of these scripts? | 02:02 |
| highvoltage | ogra: I once asked a colluege what a host name should be for a machine, and he said "Pick a scientist", and I made the hostname 'pickascientist', so be careful what you tell people with little sleep :p | 02:02 |
| ogra | cbx33, nope ... just make one and add switches | 02:02 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 02:02 |
| cbx33 | ogra: ok | 02:02 |
| cbx33 | that's what I thought | 02:02 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 02:02 |
| cbx33 | ok that's that sorted | 02:03 |
| cbx33 | I'll be working on that tomrorow | 02:03 |
| cbx33 | I think I can implement that without too much trouble | 02:03 |
| ogra | what i wanted to point out is that most if not all SCP related stuff should just be importable as a class or module | 02:03 |
| cbx33 | yes | 02:03 |
| cbx33 | it is | 02:03 |
| ogra | i'm fine with keeping the old name in the backends btw ... | 02:04 |
| cbx33 | I'll send you the source if you're interested in what I've done so far.... | 02:04 |
| cbx33 | right ok | 02:04 |
| ogra | juliux, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/72482 | 02:04 |
| ogra | i havent fixed that one yet | 02:04 |
| cbx33 | oh and where is our docs for how to update a thinclient nfs root? | 02:04 |
| cbx33 | ogra thanks again for all the help.....did my recommendations of what I can and can't do seem reasonable? | 02:05 |
| ogra | is the documentation ? beyond the release notes/upgrade notes ? | 02:05 |
| juliux | ogra, thxs | 02:05 |
| ogra | cbx33, well, why do you think the screen locking will be complicated ? | 02:05 |
| cbx33 | the gui implementation won't | 02:05 |
| ogra | that should be one function and another button ... not more | 02:05 |
| cbx33 | but I'm talking abotu the backend | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | the vnx11 stuff | 02:06 |
| ogra | neither the backend ... | 02:06 |
| juliux | ogra, the funny thing is if i use de.archive.ubuntu.com then everything is ok, but if the dns entry is in /etc/hosts it fails | 02:06 |
| ogra | the screen locking has nothing to do with vnc | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | oh | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | screen locking no | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | that could be a dbus call to the exec function to run the lock program right? | 02:06 |
| ogra | its only a call to gnome-screensaver-command --lock | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | but.... | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | it can't be caled as the user | 02:07 |
| ogra | why ? | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | else they'll be able to unlock | 02:07 |
| ogra | thats fine | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | but isn't that pointless? | 02:07 |
| ogra | no | 02:07 |
| ogra | well, you culd set the gconf key if you urgently want them locked out ... | 02:07 |
| cbx33 | explain | 02:07 |
| ogra | for now i'm fine with the option to block access ... if you teach and someone starts typing after you locked you knw he tries to unlock | 02:08 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:08 |
| ogra | if you have a better idea then feel free ... | 02:08 |
| cbx33 | we'll implement like that for now | 02:08 |
| cbx33 | do you want unlock too? | 02:09 |
| ogra | if possible, yes | 02:09 |
| ogra | that might need a script killing the g-ss daemon and restarting it ... | 02:09 |
| ogra | (not sure g-ss-command has an overriding function for the lock) | 02:10 |
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| cbx33 | hmmm | 02:11 |
| cbx33 | would killing the gss not work? | 02:12 |
| === cbx33 will try a few ways | ||
| cbx33 | for now locking is most important | 02:12 |
| ogra | killing would indeed work, but is ugly | 02:13 |
| cbx33 | in what way? | 02:13 |
| cbx33 | we kill the clients session right? | 02:13 |
| ogra | no, you kill gnome-screensaver and start it again ... that will unlock ... | 02:13 |
| cbx33 | oh | 02:14 |
| ogra | it doesnt touch the running session | 02:14 |
| Amaranth | -d, --deactivate If the screensaver is active then deactivate it (un-blank the screen) | 02:14 |
| cbx33 | no i meant to log them out | 02:14 |
| Amaranth | gnome-screensaver-command -d | 02:14 |
| cbx33 | we kill their session | 02:14 |
| ogra | Amaranth, not sure it works with locked screens | 02:14 |
| ogra | cbx33, why would you want to lock them out if you just want to unblank | 02:15 |
| ogra | s/lock/log/ | 02:15 |
| Amaranth | ogra: it does | 02:15 |
| Amaranth | gnome-screensaver-command -a && sleep 10 && gnome-screensaver-command -d | 02:15 |
| ogra | ah, cool | 02:15 |
| Amaranth | that works | 02:15 |
| ogra | cbx33, ^^^ | 02:15 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 02:15 |
| ogra | so just call gnome-screensaver-command --lock/--deactivate | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | ok excellent | 02:16 |
| Amaranth | there is no --lock | 02:16 |
| ogra | (use the long options in the script, so a coder doesnt need to look them up in the manpage) | 02:16 |
| Amaranth | it's -a/--activate | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | there is no manpage | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | is there? | 02:17 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~/python-ltsp$ LANG=C gnome-screensaver-command --help|grep lock | 02:17 |
| ogra | -l, --lock Tells the running screensaver process to lock the screen immediately | 02:17 |
| ogra | Amaranth, ^^ | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | yup works a treat | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | gnome-screensaver-command -l && sleep 10 && gnome-screensaver-command -d | 02:17 |
| Amaranth | ah | 02:17 |
| Amaranth | --activate probably won't do it if you've got something calling inhibit | 02:18 |
| ogra | right | 02:18 |
| Amaranth | and --lock says "screw that, we're locking down" :) | 02:18 |
| Amaranth | isn't all of this just a wrapper around the dbus api? | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | it would be nice to have | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | -l <password> | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 02:18 |
| ogra | well, then you need to hack pam | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | screw it | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | at least for now anyway | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | I have too much else to worry about | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | i thought about running it as another user... | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | but that probably wouldn't work would it | 02:19 |
| ogra | that gets very tricky | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 02:19 |
| ogra | dbus wont like it and yu need to fiddle around with xauth | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | ok we'll stick with this for now | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | assistance applet will be ok, just need to possibly implement a seperate part of the bus | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | so that clients can write back to it | 02:21 |
| ogra | do you have our priority list we made last meeting ? | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | for SCP? | 02:21 |
| ogra | i thought the applet was low prio | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | no, I was at BETT, will go checking for minutes | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | good | 02:22 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 02:22 |
| ogra | cbx33, you and me had a 1h meeting where we went over the spec, remember ? | 02:22 |
| cbx33 | oh | 02:22 |
| cbx33 | yes...sorry | 02:22 |
| ogra | way before BETT | 02:22 |
| cbx33 | i thought you meant edubuntu meeting | 02:22 |
| ogra | nope | 02:22 |
| ogra | btw | 02:22 |
| ogra | willvdl, ping | 02:22 |
| willvdl | ogra pong | 02:23 |
| ogra | willvdl, i wont be able to make the meeting tonight, can you run it ? | 02:23 |
| willvdl | sure. | 02:23 |
| ogra | RichEd is still at LCA ... so it might be pretty quiet anyway .... artwork and doc centric | 02:23 |
| willvdl | RichEd also away at LCA so I guess it's an SCP, doc and artwork meeting :) | 02:23 |
| willvdl | snap | 02:24 |
| cbx33 | because I don't have it here, it's at home....what bits are of high priority | 02:24 |
| ogra | right ... | 02:24 |
| ogra | not sure what kind of tech stuff rodarvus wants to tell though | 02:24 |
| Amaranth | @now Chicago | 02:24 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in America/Chicago: January 17 2007, 07:24:33 | 02:24 |
| ogra | cbx33, i dont have it here either, will need to dig the logs ... | 02:24 |
| Amaranth | meh, it's supposed to show the next meeting | 02:24 |
| Amaranth | @schedule Chicago | 02:24 |
| Amaranth | i give up | 02:25 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:25 |
| Amaranth | what time is the meeting? | 02:25 |
| ogra | Amaranth, tonight at 20:00 UTC | 02:25 |
| Amaranth | 4pm local time then | 02:25 |
| ogra | we always have alternating 12:00 and 20:00 UTC | 02:25 |
| ogra | every wed. | 02:25 |
| Amaranth | yeah, i don't make it to enough meetings to remember that :) | 02:25 |
| cbx33 | ogra, ok I'll do server/multiple blank/lock, generalisation and filtering | 02:27 |
| cbx33 | as top priority | 02:27 |
| ogra | is there a difference between multiple/single ? | 02:27 |
| ogra | i wouldnt think so | 02:27 |
| cbx33 | not really | 02:27 |
| ogra | right | 02:27 |
| ogra | that should be based on the selection | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | hmm | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | so the calls to the functions, instead of importing and using locally will be routed to ssh | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | if you're on multiple | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | for now, we're just administrating one remote server right? | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | or the local one | 02:29 |
| ogra | yes, for feisty thast enough ... but the opportunity for more needs to be there | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | well, yes, that'll require some rewriting | 02:30 |
| ogra | the frontend should have the opportunity to switch between servers (at least at some point) so that should be prepared in your code | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | switching between servers will be implemented | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | should be in feisty | 02:30 |
| ogra | great | 02:31 |
| cbx33 | but administering multiple servers from one gui was what I was thinking | 02:31 |
| ogra | that will need a new gui design | 02:31 |
| ogra | which we should do in feisty+1 | 02:31 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:32 |
| cbx33 | so... | 02:32 |
| cbx33 | are we going to get vnc in this version? | 02:32 |
| ogra | not sure, .... if i find the time for it ... | 02:33 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:33 |
| cbx33 | people were very keen for that at BETT ;) | 02:33 |
| cbx33 | if I have the time I will look into it | 02:33 |
| ogra | te script is described in the old spec ... feel free to try to write it if you want | 02:33 |
| cbx33 | heh, i will | 02:34 |
| ogra | since x11vnc has no initscript which could clash with a self written one, you can as well copy one in place by yourself | 02:35 |
| ogra | which should solve the x11vnc issue | 02:35 |
| cbx33 | ooooo.....k.... | 02:35 |
| cbx33 | so basically....we need to... | 02:36 |
| cbx33 | start the x11vnc | 02:37 |
| cbx33 | and then in the gui...connect to that vnc session | 02:37 |
| cbx33 | http://tocm.blogspot.com/2005_11_01_archive.html - look at the top post | 02:39 |
| ogra | thats nice | 02:41 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 02:42 |
| ogra | try to find that code | 02:42 |
| cbx33 | but there's no link to anything | 02:42 |
| ogra | mail him ? | 02:42 |
| cbx33 | no email address | 02:42 |
| cbx33 | oh ang on | 02:42 |
| cbx33 | nope | 02:42 |
| cbx33 | what do you think i'd look for if I were to do it from scratch | 02:43 |
| ogra | try with a comment ... the blog has a comment space | 02:45 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:45 |
| ogra | ad he seems active in LKML | 02:46 |
| cbx33 | cool | 02:46 |
| cbx33 | I'll give him a contact | 02:46 |
| cbx33 | anthony.printf at codemonkey.scanf.ws minus syscalls | 02:48 |
| cbx33 | hahaha | 02:48 |
| ogra | http://lbpp.sourceforge.net/ | 02:48 |
| ogra | might be the same guy | 02:48 |
| cbx33 | ok mailing now | 02:50 |
| cbx33 | http://virt-manager.et.redhat.com/codestructure.html | 02:52 |
| ogra | thats for xen ? | 02:53 |
| ogra | or vmware ? | 02:53 |
| ogra | uh, ugly, it abuses vnc2swf | 02:54 |
| cbx33 | yes | 02:54 |
| cbx33 | i saw that too | 02:54 |
| cbx33 | http://virt-manager.et.redhat.com/screenshots/guest-console.png | 02:54 |
| cbx33 | actually I don;t know if it is as bad as we thought | 02:56 |
| cbx33 | oh | 02:56 |
| cbx33 | yes it is | 02:56 |
| Amaranth | what? they use gtkmozembed and vnc2swf? | 03:22 |
| cbx33 | mozembed isn't in the vnc viewer | 03:23 |
| cbx33 | but vnc2swf maybe | 03:23 |
| cbx33 | though I can find no mention of swf in the rfb.py and vnc.py | 03:23 |
| cbx33 | think I may giv this a go | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | seems like it may be fairly easy to implement as a first test anyway | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | what ya think ogra worth a shot? | 03:29 |
| cbx33 | library seems fairly complete from that virt-manager thing | 03:29 |
| ogra | as long as you dont need any universe stuff do what you want ... | 03:30 |
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| cbx33 | well....I can just copy the code out can't I? | 03:31 |
| ogra | if its not packaged anywhere in ubuntu, yes | 03:32 |
| cbx33 | cool | 03:33 |
| cbx33 | I will look | 03:33 |
| cbx33 | can't see it anywhere | 03:33 |
| cbx33 | so I'll just rip out the code for the python vnc and try it out | 03:33 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 03:33 |
| ogra | but keep an eye on it ... if its packaged once we shouldnt duplicate the code, then you need to depend on it | 03:33 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 03:34 |
| g333k_work | hello, is it possible configure autologin un edubuntu? | 03:45 |
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| ogra_ | g333k_work, thats the third day you are asking it ... the answer didnt change: yes, via gdm but then you loose local device support | 03:55 |
| ogra_ | ldm doesnt have autologin yet | 03:56 |
| ogra_ | (patches accepted though) | 03:56 |
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| yamama | what is edubuntu ?? | 04:02 |
| cbx33 | ogra: dude, I have just ran a vnc session inside a python widget | 04:04 |
| cbx33 | I hacked up their code a bit | 04:05 |
| cbx33 | and...well....it works | 04:05 |
| g333k_work | ogra, noup... I realized that ubuntu edgy + ltsp 5 use LDM, and is not possible to do the autologin thing :( | 04:12 |
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| ogra | g333k_work, only if you use gdm ... but since we dont support unencrypted connections by default in ltsp5 in ubuntu there is no work gone into localdev support yet | 04:20 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 04:20 |
| ogra | hi sbalneav | 04:20 |
| sbalneav | Hey ogra! | 04:20 |
| cbx33 | ogra: ok it works.....but the resize isn't implemented | 04:20 |
| cbx33 | for the frame buffer | 04:21 |
| ogra | cbx33, hmm, so no tiled overview yet then... | 04:21 |
| cbx33 | not yet | 04:21 |
| ogra | thats fine for a start | 04:21 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 04:21 |
| cbx33 | but I want that tiled overview | 04:21 |
| cbx33 | this code is pretty slick | 04:21 |
| cbx33 | but most of the code has | 04:22 |
| cbx33 | raise NotImplementError | 04:22 |
| cbx33 | grrr | 04:22 |
| cbx33 | I mean t's possible that I can hack up the code to get it to work | 04:22 |
| ogra | dtrask was very keen on getting it in.. but if we cat make it in time we simply cant ... | 04:23 |
| ogra | s/cat/cant/ | 04:23 |
| cbx33 | hmm...so basically.....we need to read in the screen and resize....that's pretty intensive | 04:23 |
| ogra | it doesn tneed to be realtime ... | 04:24 |
| cbx33 | no....I know | 04:24 |
| ogra | the tiles can be screenshots | 04:24 |
| cbx33 | taken every 10 secs or so | 04:24 |
| cbx33 | basically I don't know enough about the technology to do it | 04:24 |
| cbx33 | but | 04:24 |
| cbx33 | I'm willing to try and learn | 04:24 |
| cbx33 | def resize_screen(self, width, height): raise NotImplementedError | 04:24 |
| ogra | you use a nonblocking child process ... | 04:25 |
| cbx33 | yeh that's not the issue | 04:25 |
| ogra | cool would be to have an effect like a tooltip on mouse over that shows the realtime screen in a frameless popup in a suitable size ... | 04:26 |
| ogra | but i suspect that will slow down everything | 04:26 |
| cbx33 | flippin eck ogra give us a chance | 04:27 |
| willvdl | :) | 04:29 |
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| cbx33 | ogra: managed to resize the window.....but not rescale it | 04:37 |
| cbx33 | can vnc viewer request a size fomr the server? | 04:37 |
| cbx33 | doesn't look like it | 04:42 |
| cbx33 | bbl | 04:48 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, I think I've isolated a section of code I can use | 05:37 |
| cbx33 | I don;t know how performance will be, but we'll have to see that later ;) | 05:38 |
| LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 05:43 |
| cbx33 | hey LaserJock | 05:44 |
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| Laser_away | cbx33: jabber | 07:25 |
| cbx33 | Laser_away, bbiab dude | 07:28 |
| cbx33 | dinner | 07:28 |
| Laser_away | np | 07:28 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, I've done it | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | seriously | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | I have a 3 second updating screenshot | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | that is resized | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | took about 2 hours to research and hack up | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | I'll send you a demo | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: bbl | 08:00 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, | 08:00 |
| cbx33 | hi | 08:00 |
| cbx33 | oh | 08:00 |
| cbx33 | you........dang it | 08:00 |
| cbx33 | I'm here now | 08:00 |
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| juliux | cbx33, no meeting today? | 08:18 |
| cbx33 | yup | 08:21 |
| cbx33 | in 40 mins | 08:21 |
| cbx33 | willvdl is charing | 08:21 |
| cbx33 | chairing | 08:22 |
| cbx33 | as ogra isn't able to attend | 08:22 |
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| cbx33 | hey willvdl | 08:35 |
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| willvdl | hey | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | ahoy | 08:59 |
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| willvdl | edubuntu meeting? | 09:01 |
| willvdl | ========Edubuntu Meeting ========= | 09:03 |
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| stormchas3r | its been awhile since i set edubuntu server up. Can you guys please point me in the right direction on configuring the server to accept thin clients and all? | 09:53 |
| willvdl | stormchas3r, www.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted | 10:03 |
| stormchas3r | ty | 10:04 |
| stormchas3r | has much changed in 6.10 for the server side? | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | nope | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | dhcp is dopne for iirc | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | cya cbx33 | 10:07 |
| cbx33 | nn LaserJock # | 10:07 |
| stormchas3r | o wow, its been awhile cbx33, remember me? | 10:08 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I shouldn't have an issue updating an edubuntu install to a "normal" install should I? | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | heh | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | it's basically a normal install + | 10:33 |
| bddebian | Aye | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | you did an LTSP server install? | 10:35 |
| bddebian | No, just a Edgy Live -> Install | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | oh | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | then yeah, it's darn near the same thing | 10:36 |
| bddebian | OK | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | install ubuntu-* and remove edubuntu-* and you pretty much have it | 10:36 |
| bddebian | Got it, thanks man | 10:38 |
| pips1 | willvdl: hullo | 10:58 |
| willvdl | pips1, good to have you back | 10:58 |
| pips1 | what time friday? | 10:58 |
| willvdl | I am UTC+2 i think, you? | 10:59 |
| pips1 | UTC+1 | 10:59 |
| pips1 | morning or afternoon? | 10:59 |
| willvdl | morning or afternoon? | 10:59 |
| pips1 | heh | 10:59 |
| willvdl | snap :) | 10:59 |
| pips1 | morning | 11:00 |
| willvdl | morning is best | 11:00 |
| willvdl | my 12 is your 11am? or earlier? | 11:00 |
| pips1 | correct | 11:00 |
| pips1 | 10 UTC then? | 11:00 |
| willvdl | goo for you? | 11:00 |
| pips1 | yep | 11:01 |
| willvdl | excellent | 11:01 |
| willvdl | just want to chat wiki/website | 11:01 |
| pips1 | ok, I'll talk to you fri 10 UTC, here | 11:02 |
| pips1 | see you then! | 11:02 |
| willvdl | ciao | 11:03 |
| pips1 | it was an informative meeting... I will want to know more about your/doc-team thoughts too | 11:03 |
| willvdl | cool. there are a lot :) | 11:03 |
| pips1 | regarding the whole categorisation/name spaces thing.. | 11:04 |
| pips1 | ok, got to go, cu | 11:04 |
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| nixternal | ogra: sorry to here about Fred. I know the feeling as I just lost my dog after 11 years on Thanksgiving Day. It is tough, but at least his suffering is over. My thoughts and prayers are with you! | 11:25 |
| ogra | thanks a lot | 11:25 |
| nixternal | that is 3 dev pooches in a row, first jono, then me, and now you :( | 11:26 |
| nixternal | it sucks big time | 11:26 |
| nixternal | my mom picked up another pooch, or devil I should say, he can never be a replacement, but he did help a little with the grieving process | 11:26 |
| ogra | well, it wasnt really unexpected ... 16 is very old and i said goodbye since months already | 11:27 |
| nixternal | ya, he gave you 16 good years though, that is awesome | 11:27 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:27 |
| nixternal | holly was 11 when she went | 11:27 |
| ogra | thats early ... | 11:28 |
| ogra | but if the body doesnt want anymore you can hardly do anything | 11:28 |
| nixternal | a little early yes, but they think she was born with a heart condition, she was about 2 to 3 years early for a malteze | 11:28 |
| ogra | he still didnt want to go ... the vet had to give an extra shot which is very unusual she said ... but he would have starved to death if i wouldnt have decided it now ... | 11:29 |
| nixternal | wow, definitely a fighter then. our dog was eventually going to do the same thing with starvation | 11:30 |
| nixternal | she wouldn't eat for anything, and wouldn't even eat her favorite, chicken and ham | 11:30 |
| nixternal | or a mcdonald's french fry for that matter | 11:30 |
| ogra | as weak as he was he did his round through the garden with me, even 30mon before i had to give him the sleeping pills | 11:30 |
| nixternal | gave you one last walk, that's cool | 11:31 |
| ogra | yeah, fred stopped eating last friday ... | 11:31 |
| ogra | and nothing could convnce him .... | 11:32 |
| nixternal | ya, same exact here | 11:32 |
| nixternal | well, now there are 3 new friends where ever they go after life on earth, but I can guarantee holly is being a prissy little one and not wanting to play :) | 11:33 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:34 |
| nixternal | the only thing holly played with was my cat, and would play around with my pitbull every now and then when feeling frisky | 11:34 |
| ogra | fred only played with his mom ... he never got why he should play with humans or other dogs | 11:34 |
| nixternal | the new dog and the pitbull aren't friends yet, the little dog wants to eat the pitbull | 11:35 |
| nixternal | ya, our new dog plays with everyone and everything, holly didn't play much except if the kids were around | 11:36 |
| nixternal | i have a 100+ pound pit bull that is terrified on a 5 pound yorkshire terrier | 11:36 |
| nixternal | crazy | 11:37 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:37 |
| nixternal | when the little one comes around, the pitbull will jump on a couch or bed because he knows nikki the little one can't get up there and get him | 11:37 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: will there be re-evaluation of specs at the sprint next week? | 11:59 |
| LaserJock | like last time | 11:59 |
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