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bddebian | Heya | 02:53 |
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manchicken_ | Anybody know bazaar well? | 02:59 |
bddebian | Not me, sorry | 03:00 |
nixternal | manchicken: what do you need help with in bazaar? | 03:06 |
manchicken | I checked out this copy of adept from Riddell's branch. I'm trying to switch to my branch so that I may check into it. | 03:10 |
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imbrandon | manchicken|away, just bzr push <your url> | 05:52 |
imbrandon | afaik | 05:52 |
Jucato | hi imbrandon! | 05:52 |
imbrandon | zomg i about pee'd myself laughing at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeKRxQxVCT0 | 05:52 |
imbrandon | heya Jucato | 05:52 |
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raphink | hi Hobbsee | 09:14 |
Hobbsee | heya raphink | 09:16 |
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Hobbsee | heya Mez :) | 09:17 |
Hobbsee | raphink: done | 09:17 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: you not at linux.conf.au? | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: no..... | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i'm at the open day tomorrow though | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: the main problem is that it's a crap location for anyone living in the state, who's not in the inner city | 12:58 |
Hobbsee | ie, car, train, bus, every time to get there. | 12:58 |
Riddell | kwwii: what's going on in kubuntu-de today? | 12:58 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: it sounds interesting though | 12:59 |
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kwwii | Riddell: no idea, should I know? | 01:20 |
kwwii | after the meeting two days ago (About working together with Ubuntuuser.de) everything should be going well | 01:22 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 01:35 |
Riddell | hi Tonio_ | 01:35 |
Tonio_ | hi Riddell ;) | 01:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: did you notice debtags is broken ? | 01:36 |
Riddell | nope | 01:37 |
Riddell | new version recently compiled | 01:37 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I get a postinst error on my 2 machines | 01:37 |
Tonio_ | Unable to find any tag data. Context: Reading debtags sources from /var/lib/debtags/ and /root/.debtags/ | 01:37 |
Riddell | tsk | 01:37 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I get this error with this version, everything was okay ysterday | 01:38 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: can you reproduce ? just dist-upgrade is needed | 01:39 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like something changed, it now conflicts with apt-index-watcher | 01:39 |
Riddell | what changed is a new version got compiled | 01:41 |
Riddell | if it's broken that's pretty typical of debtags, it's fiddly stuff | 01:41 |
Tonio_ | hum what to do then ? ;) | 01:44 |
Riddell | fix it :) | 01:46 |
Tonio_ | hehe ;) I'm not sure I can do it but I'll have a look | 01:46 |
Tonio_ | well the prolblem seems to be the postinst only.... | 01:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm not there today but I'll have a look tomorrow if it-s not fixed in the meantime | 01:53 |
Riddell | I won't get to it today, new KDE is out | 01:53 |
Tonio_ | okay great ;) | 01:53 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: so have you fixed the data loss bug yet? (removable media)? | 01:54 |
Hobbsee | :P | 01:54 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: I've not done anything on it | 01:54 |
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Tonio_ | Hobbsee: kde guys said that probably won't be fixed until kde4 | 01:54 |
Tonio_ | I hope the kwallet issue is now fixed... | 01:56 |
LongPointyStick | Tonio_: yes, i know. unfortuantely, that doesnt sit too well with users | 01:56 |
Tonio_ | LongPointyStick: sure ! | 01:57 |
Hobbsee | \sh: kdar is just a mess. | 01:58 |
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manchicken|away | imbrandon: I did push, but that didn't change the current branch it was on. I'm wanting to change the branch it's on so that I can check in. | 02:40 |
manchicken|away | I'll be back in a while, gotta head into the office. | 02:40 |
Riddell | bzr commit; bzr push | 02:42 |
manchicken|away | When I try to commit, it gives me permission denied because I'm still on your branch. | 02:45 |
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Riddell | manchicken|away: it should be pushing to your branch | 02:52 |
Riddell | if it doesn't automatically then tell it to explicitly | 02:52 |
Riddell | bzr push sftp://me@bazaar.launchpad.net/~me/adept/branchname | 02:52 |
manchicken|away | It pushed to my branch, but it won't push changes... | 02:52 |
manchicken|away | It only pushed what you have checked into your branch. | 02:53 |
manchicken|away | I've really gotta boogie, I'll sort this out later. | 02:53 |
Riddell | bzr commit ? | 02:53 |
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manchicken | Riddell: I'm trying that check-in now. | 03:54 |
manchicken | Ack, running to meeting. | 03:54 |
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manchicken | I think I pushed it. I'll have to check later. | 04:34 |
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Riddell | ** KDE 3.5.6 for testing deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kde-356-feisty/ feisty main | 06:22 |
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Mez | got any for edgy yet ? | 06:27 |
Riddell | no, I need it tested on feisty first | 06:29 |
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nixternal | hahaha | 06:43 |
Riddell | kwwii: install ubuntu-desktop better | 06:43 |
nixternal | Riddell: get the 3.5.6 for edgy :) | 06:43 |
kwwii | Riddell: what will that do to my existing kubuntu? | 06:44 |
nixternal | shoot, i forgot i have my fesity box | 06:44 |
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kwwii | and how can I switch between the two desktops once I have both installed? | 06:44 |
Riddell | kwwii: nothing | 06:45 |
Riddell | kwwii: how long have you been using GNU/Linux man?! | 06:45 |
kwwii | Riddell: well, suse always had a nice kdm with which to choose desktops :-) | 06:46 |
Riddell | as indeed do we | 06:46 |
kwwii | hehe, well, that proves that I haven't installed gnome in a long time :p | 06:47 |
Riddell | menu->session->gnome | 06:47 |
kwwii | cool...for some reason I just assumed that it wasn't that easy | 06:47 |
sebas | The hard part is when you realise that you really miss kwin | 06:50 |
kwwii | hehe | 06:50 |
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kwwii | my new laptop does 3D well from what I have heard...how does one set that up on kde? | 06:52 |
kwwii | and while we are at questions that nobody wants to answer, when will there be a flash9 package available? | 06:56 |
nixternal | kwwii: today for flash 9 | 06:56 |
nixternal | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31~ubuntu1_i386.deb | 06:57 |
nixternal | lovely on that link :) | 06:57 |
nixternal | it was released for edgy, but i downloaded that and installed it w/o any issues | 06:57 |
nixternal | err, feisty not edgy, but i installed it on edgy | 06:58 |
kwwii | nixternal: sweet , thanks for the info | 07:13 |
kwwii | man having an i386 laptop is like taking a step up in the world! wlan works, 3d works, flash, etc | 07:15 |
nixternal | lol | 07:17 |
nixternal | i think i just found out a neat feature or bug in the mplayer plugin for firefox. when you take focus off of the window with mplayer in ff, it pauses the video | 07:18 |
nixternal | kde 3.5.6 up and running! | 07:18 |
kwwii | dude, that is very apparently a feature :p | 07:19 |
nixternal | hehe | 07:19 |
nixternal | ya, but i have seen recent so called features called bugs instead | 07:20 |
kwwii | well, if you squint your eyes hard enough I am sure it looks like a feature :p | 07:20 |
nixternal | hehe | 07:21 |
kwwii | anyway, who doesn't want a mouse cursor in the middle of the movie? | 07:21 |
nixternal | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279 | 07:21 |
nixternal | sweet | 07:21 |
kwwii | wow | 07:22 |
kwwii | I'll give that to my wife and see how she does ;-) | 07:22 |
nixternal | if that really does exist and happen, Ubuntu will definitely take over the world! | 07:22 |
nixternal | Riddell: http://secunia.com/advisories/23799/ | 07:23 |
Riddell | nixternal: I uploaded the fix yesterday, not sure if pitti let it through though | 07:27 |
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nixternal_ | Riddell: did you get the kde3.5.x security notice? | 07:43 |
Riddell | 18:27 < Riddell> nixternal: I uploaded the fix yesterday, not sure if pitti let it through though | 07:43 |
nixternal | ok cool | 07:43 |
nixternal | DoS on my router it seems | 07:43 |
nixternal | with 3.5.6 konqi can now do my grocery shopping w/o crashing :) | 07:44 |
nixternal | so that was one bug fix | 07:44 |
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Riddell | nixternal: so no problems with 3.5.6? | 09:18 |
Riddell | nixternal: are you able to test printing? | 09:18 |
nixternal | i will do that right now | 09:31 |
allee | Was this incompatibility discussed already? Bug 75435 | 09:34 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 75435 in digikam "Gnome and KDE trash are incompatible. Was: usdigikam expects trash to be in ~/Desktop/Trash - causes error in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75435 | 09:34 |
Riddell | allee: not with me | 09:36 |
allee | Riddell: k. Against which pkgs should a 'Gnome and KDE trash are incompatible. " bug be reported? Or is this a topic for a dev meeting? | 09:37 |
Riddell | kio-trash is in kdebase | 09:39 |
Riddell | no idea where the gnome stuff is | 09:39 |
Riddell | is this an ubuntu issue or an upstream issue? | 09:39 |
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toma | allee: that is the reason we implemented a config setting to delete it straight away | 09:53 |
toma | iirc | 09:53 |
allee | Riddell: I had already a look at the kde code. It's an upstream issue. KDE and Gnome uses different implementations. Gnome use more of less a mv this ~/.Trash. While XDG trash add .trashinfo files and add sequence numbers for identical named files | 09:53 |
allee | toma: really? AFAIR I insistend on bypassing trash possibility because it frustrates me always have to empty the trash ;) | 09:54 |
toma | allee: iirc it was triggered by a desktop user (not gnome, but another one) which did not have a trash at all | 09:55 |
toma | and we did not want a dep on kedbase for this | 09:55 |
allee | toma: btw. digikam doesn't find images copied to lib while it's running in Gnome desktop. Missing daemon or is that digikam default? | 09:57 |
toma | allee: there is a dirwatcher which monitors changes | 09:57 |
toma | i assume kdelibs dirwatcher works on gnome as well, unless dirwatcher does not work with the monitor installed in a gnome install | 09:59 |
toma | maybe Riddell knows that | 09:59 |
allee | toma: it's really strange when stuff that always worked suddenly stops. One feels lost ;) | 10:00 |
toma | indeed. | 10:01 |
toma | is that in 0.9.x ? | 10:01 |
toma | they might have changed things there | 10:01 |
toma | i only wrote the original implementation | 10:01 |
allee | I tried standard edgy gnome. So digikam 0.8.2. | 10:02 |
toma | eiks | 10:02 |
toma | iirc there is a 'dirty' debug message when something has changed on disk | 10:03 |
allee | toma: bug reporter had already updated to 0.9 when I answered ;) | 10:03 |
allee | toma: pkgs are build with --disable-debug :( | 10:03 |
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nixternal | man, kde 3.5.6 and setting up my samba printer is a breeze | 10:04 |
toma | *sigh* | 10:04 |
manchicken | EVIL samba | 10:05 |
nixternal | it is, but i don't have a printer of my own anymore, so i use dad's printer next door | 10:07 |
nixternal | the worst part is walking forever to the printer | 10:07 |
nixternal | ;p | 10:07 |
nixternal | Riddell: printing in KDE 3.5.6 works like a charm (HP PSC1610 Multi-Function Printer) | 10:08 |
Riddell | allee: sounds like gnome doesn't implement the XDG spec then | 10:08 |
manchicken | The hardest part of setting up my cups printer was opening the firewall hole. | 10:08 |
Riddell | nixternal: wonderful, thanks | 10:08 |
allee | Riddell: yes. But that's only a draft | 10:08 |
nixternal | i don't print all that often, so i never found the reason to go purchase another printer | 10:09 |
nixternal | that pesty bug of clicking on adept_updater icon in kicker and it not opening the first time seems still be around | 10:09 |
nixternal | heh, i forgot that it crashes when you press next :) | 10:10 |
manchicken | My next printer will sit on my router. | 10:10 |
allee | Riddell: the only simple *but dirty* fix, is a generalized for of ln -s ~/.Trash ~/.local/share/Trash | 10:16 |
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Riddell | yes, it's a gnome bug | 10:18 |
allee | Riddell: which ubuntu dev to ping about gnome? (I'm not motived to get used to gnome bug reporting) | 10:20 |
allee | toma: fwiw I tried: 0.8.2 updates dynamicly when run in a KDE session or via ssh -X user@host digikam. In a gnome session it does not. | 10:26 |
toma | allee: strange | 10:26 |
allee | maybe on if KDE_FULL_SESSION is set (wild wild guess) | 10:26 |
allee | s/on/only/ | 10:27 |
toma | allee: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2005-April/006829.html | 10:27 |
toma | that can be read as kdirwatcher is not gnome compatible | 10:28 |
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allee | toma: mhmm, I read it as 'would be nice to agree on a bookmark location and format' | 10:33 |
toma | k | 10:34 |
Riddell | allee: seb128, dholbach | 10:47 |
allee | Riddell: thx | 10:47 |
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snikker | i've got an "DCOP error" when i click on the bluetooth icon in the kontrol center. how fix this? | 11:18 |
Riddell | snikker: what version? | 11:18 |
snikker | Riddell: kde 3.5.5 | 11:19 |
Riddell | snikker: what kubuntu version | 11:19 |
snikker | Riddell: 6.10, but until one hour ago it work fine... | 11:19 |
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snikker | Riddell: i've removed and reinstalled all about the bluetooth, but nothing to do... | 11:20 |
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Riddell | snikker: do other control centre modules work? | 11:22 |
snikker | Riddell: yes, other modules, work | 11:23 |
Riddell | snikker: have you installed any packages today? | 11:23 |
Riddell | or upgraded? | 11:24 |
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snikker | Riddell: i've installed: portmap, nfs-common, p3nfs, rebooted and all was fine. | 11:26 |
Riddell | shouldn't cause any problems | 11:27 |
snikker | Riddell: i've also modified rfcomm, if it can help... | 11:28 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 11:44 |
imbrandon | heya Tonio_ | 11:48 |
Tonio_ | hey imbrandon :) | 11:48 |
Tonio_ | I'll order the ibm this week | 11:49 |
Tonio_ | (promissed this time !!) | 11:49 |
imbrandon | hehe no worries | 11:49 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the issue with your debtags package is that vocabulary is 0 b | 11:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I think autogen failed downloading the good files | 11:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: same issue with tags_current | 11:53 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: do you have svn access ? looks like needed by autogen.sh* | 11:53 |
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Riddell | Tonio_: no, I don't | 11:53 |
Riddell | you can get the file from elsewhere, but I can never remember where | 11:54 |
Riddell | probably anonymous svn from somewhere | 11:54 |
Riddell | Tonio_: oh and adept should be fine to drop the depend on apt-index-watcher | 11:54 |
Riddell | it has been dropped in debian | 11:54 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: there is a solution by patching the get_tags and get_vocabulary scripts | 11:55 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: but that's ugly since I have to manually modify them.... | 11:55 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: let me have a look | 11:55 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: currently building but that should be fixed this time.... | 12:00 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll also fix adept | 12:01 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: hum the build fails now :) | 12:05 |
Riddell | uh oh | 12:05 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like missing libtool files.... | 12:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I think autogen needs to force overwritting config.guess and other files... | 12:09 |
Tonio_ | tagcoll/diskindex/mmap.h: No such file or directory | 12:10 |
Tonio_ | messy......... | 12:10 |
Tonio_ | apt-file search mmap.h | grep disk | 12:11 |
Tonio_ | no result..... | 12:11 |
Riddell | Tonio_: you need to have libept and libtagcoll installed when running autogen | 12:12 |
Riddell | install builddeps and rerun ./autogen.sh | 12:13 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: testing.... | 12:13 |
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