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Kr4t05	Well, might be 7.12	12:15
forceflow_	so feisty is soon to come :D	12:15
Kr4t05	April	12:15
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forceflow_	im sooooo ready	12:17
forceflow_	:D	12:17
MaxDamage``	oh, i'd also like to ask - when i log out sometimes the system hangs... just shows the mouse cursor with a black screen on 1280x1024	12:17
MaxDamage``	any clues? :/	12:18
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Lynoure	Which source package should I report a Konqueror bug on in Launchpad? Or if I used reportbug, will it know I'm the same person as the Launchpad user if the email addy matches?	12:20
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forceflow_	so yeah, ill be out there, covering the st. louis side:P ill be at the best buy off hanely if anyone knows where that is, anyone who wants to come is welcome	12:20
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	been reading up on the list goals for feisty... there's some really nice stuff going	12:21
forceflow_	january 30th	12:21
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Lynoure	MaxDamage``: That has happened on and off on Dapper at least on some laptop hardware...Maybe desktop too. Seems mostly fixed but causes could vary.	12:21
MaxDamage``	uhh	12:21
MaxDamage``	reads again.. carefully	12:21
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MaxDamage``	well okay	12:22
MaxDamage``	i just have to live with it then :p	12:22
forceflow_	hey, does anyone know if they finally removed that damn bcm43xx wireless driver that they claimed was reverse engineered but didnt actually work?	12:22
genii	Feisty out of herd 1 yet?	12:22
forceflow_	that was the only pain in my ass when i installed linux:P	12:22
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	MaxDamage``: or upgrade to Edgy, i suppose	12:22
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	that's not always an option, though	12:22
MaxDamage``	im using edgy :p	12:23
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dwidmann	eh? herd 2 has been out for days	12:23
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	ah.	12:23
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	well then, i suppose upgrading to edgy isn't an option, then, is it?	12:23
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MaxDamage``	guess so :p	12:24
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MaxDamage``	so you guys are lucky and have your own computers right?	12:25
MaxDamage``	lol	12:25
forceflow_	guess no one knows about that problem? it is a real pain for anyone switching on a dell laptop	12:25
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	computers, yes >_>	12:25
MaxDamage``	well i don't have my own room.. and im sharing my computer with my mother and my brother ...	12:25
MaxDamage``	<_<	12:25
MaxDamage``	:p	12:25
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\|Daisuke_Ido\|	ouch. i've been there, and yes, it definitely makes adopting linux a pain, especially when the other users are die-hard windows users.	12:26
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MaxDamage``	die hard windows users?	12:27
MaxDamage``	someone sends a message to my mom in ICQ and she keeps shouting she's got a virus	12:27
MaxDamage``	.. :D	12:27
cyber-hazard	hahahahhaa	12:27
cyber-hazard	that's awesome	12:27
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cyber-hazard	my dad is like that	12:28
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	oh man	12:28
forceflow_	lol	12:28
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	i don't know whether to laugh or cry	12:28
MaxDamage``	yeah, me too...	12:28
cyber-hazard	when we first got the internet in the house Napster was big, and one day (we had a memory leak) windows pops up an illegal operation message	12:28
MaxDamage``	im trying to teach her	12:28
BluesKaj	prolly not so much die-hard as not willing or able to even try linux :>)	12:28
MaxDamage``	not too much though...	12:28
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cyber-hazard	he started freaking out that the cops were gonna come	12:28
MaxDamage``	cuz i can't control her then	12:28
MaxDamage``	:D	12:28
cyber-hazard	and damn me for downloading music :P	12:28
MaxDamage``	hahahhahaha	12:28
cyber-hazard	i was crying I was laughing so hard	12:28
MaxDamage``	ur dad rules!	12:28
forceflow_	i got yelled at when windows update downloaded internet explorer 7...lol apparently she thought i changed it	12:29
sleepy495	!sound	12:29
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin	12:29
cyber-hazard	curious....	12:29
cyber-hazard	!windows	12:29
ubotu	For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	12:29
cyber-hazard	hahahahha	12:29
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	i feel lucky. my mom knows her way around a computer, and my dad has been working with them for most of my life	12:29
cyber-hazard	or your nearest mental health institute! that's awesome!	12:30
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	of course, mom's usual computer activities include netflix.com, dvdshrink, and nero >_>	12:30
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BluesKaj	I'm a grandfather , and Linux is much more interesting and verstaile than windows...altho i still have my windows partition , 'just in case" :)	12:30
cyber-hazard	\|Daisuke_Ido\|: your mom rocks! :P	12:30
MaxDamage``	yeah	12:31
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	that's what i thought	12:31
MaxDamage``	i wish my mom would get around a pc...	12:31
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	i made the mistake of asking when she planned to watch all of these movies	12:31
MaxDamage``	and not just keep shouting that there is no internet when she gets a 404...	12:31
MaxDamage``	rofl	12:31
BluesKaj	hehe	12:31
forceflow_	lol	12:31
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	i never did get an answer	12:31
sleepy495	where is alsamixer located?	12:31
cyber-hazard	!alsamixer	12:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:31
MaxDamage``	bah	12:32
cyber-hazard	hmmm, guess i'm not leet with the bot yet :(	12:32
MaxDamage``	noone is	12:32
MaxDamage``	:p	12:32
cyber-hazard	i got all excited cause i thought it was my turn to activate the bot :(	12:32
MaxDamage``	well except the botmaster	12:32
cyber-hazard	only to be rejected	12:32
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	!alsa-mixer	12:32
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about alsa-mixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:32
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	bleh	12:32
cyber-hazard	!also	12:32
cyber-hazard	errr	12:32
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about also - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:32
MaxDamage``	!alsa	12:32
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin	12:32
BluesKaj	under multimedia id you have it installed, sleepy495	12:32
MaxDamage``	^^	12:32
MaxDamage``	mekeke	12:32
sleepy495	ok,thanks	12:33
MaxDamage``	no prob :p	12:33
dwidmann	sleepy495, probably /usr/bin/alsamixer, you may have to install it first if you haven't already	12:33
cyber-hazard	!OSX	12:33
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about OSX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:33
cyber-hazard	=\	12:33
MaxDamage``	!macintosh	12:33
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about macintosh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:33
MaxDamage``	w00t	12:33
MaxDamage``	how the fuck do you spell that?!	12:33
BluesKaj	!apple	12:33
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:33
cyber-hazard	!mac	12:33
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:33
MaxDamage``	!water-melon	12:33
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about water-melon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:33
forceflow_	!wireless	12:33
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	12:33
forceflow_	:D	12:33
BluesKaj	!IMAC	12:34
MaxDamage``	:D	12:34
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about IMAC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:34
cyber-hazard	whatis maxdamage\`\`\'s\ face	12:34
cyber-hazard	maxdamage``'s face: nothing appropriate.	12:34
dwidmann	if you click that link you get everytime you guess incorrectly, you can get the full list	12:34
cyber-hazard	i <3 my bash prompt :)	12:34
dwidmann	or you could experiment in a pm	12:34
BluesKaj	I have a friend who's running kubuntu partition on his Imac	12:34
MaxDamage``	maybe... ?	12:35
MaxDamage``	whoah	12:35
MaxDamage``	imac's rock :p	12:35
BluesKaj	Forgotten what he used to mount it	12:35
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MaxDamage``	btw, it's very interesting how the iMac's parts fit into the small space of the monitor... :/	12:37
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WiglyWorm	Could someone help me out here? I'm running into an error: "error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".. where can I find that file?	12:38
WiglyWorm	It doesn't appear to be on the program's CD, nor on my live CD.	12:38
MaxDamage``	well obviously you dont have the libSDL	12:38
MaxDamage``	uh...	12:38
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MaxDamage``	i don't remember how to fix it :/	12:39
WiglyWorm	It would certainly appear that way. :)	12:39
dwidmann	!info libsdl1.2debian-all	12:39
MaxDamage``	im kinda sick right now	12:39
ubotu	libsdl1.2debian-all: Simple DirectMedia Layer (with all available options). In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 205 kB, installed size 504 kB	12:39
MaxDamage``	right...	12:39
MaxDamage``	now that you know that	12:39
cyber-hazard	hmmm, quick, someone quit so I know if this worked :P	12:39
MaxDamage``	go to adept and download it	12:39
cyber-hazard	damn	12:39
dwidmann	cyber-hazard: quit what?	12:40
WiglyWorm	Oh... I can get it off adept?	12:40
WiglyWorm	I figured that was too easy.	12:40
cyber-hazard	dwidmann: the channel	12:40
MaxDamage``	well everything is easy	12:40
MaxDamage``	if you know how to do it	12:40
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dwidmann	is that question still in question, or am I too late to run away?	12:40
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WiglyWorm	Mmm hmmm, and I'm a complete linux newbie ATM, so everything is hard. Very very hard. Or at least forgien.	12:40
MaxDamage``	so am I	12:41
MaxDamage``	but... im getting around :)	12:41
WiglyWorm	So I should just search for "libSDL-1.2.so.0" in adept?	12:41
MaxDamage``	libsdl only	12:41
dwidmann	install the libsdl1.2debian-all package	12:41
MaxDamage``	if should find some things	12:41
dwidmann	it should be all you need	12:42
WiglyWorm	Ah.. indeed it has.	12:42
BluesKaj	hmm, the desktop pages minimize to the tray when the cursor is moved to the edges of the screen ...some may like it , but I find it annoying. How do i fix this?	12:42
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dwidmann	if you're using 64-bit you'd also need ia32-libs-sdl	12:43
MaxDamage``	BluesKaj: i think it's more comfortable that way	12:43
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MaxDamage``	like you got a 4 times bigger screen	12:43
MaxDamage``	if you accidently hit the edge - hit the other one to get back	12:44
MaxDamage``	alltho it doesnt work with me o.0	12:44
MaxDamage``	!katapult	12:44
ubotu	katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.	12:44
MaxDamage``	just for me	12:44
WiglyWorm	Dwidmann, were you talking to me?	12:44
BluesKaj	I to want to get rid of the effect , MaxDamage``	12:45
dwidmann	WiglyWorm: at which point?	12:45
dwidmann	hmm, oh, yes, I think I was	12:45
MaxDamage``	the 64 bits	12:45
WiglyWorm	"if you're using 64-bit you'd also need ia32-libs-sdl"	12:45
dwidmann	Indeed.	12:46
WiglyWorm	Alright... I've installed both of those packages, theoretically i'm good to go?	12:46
MaxDamage``	yes. :P	12:46
dwidmann	one way to find out	12:46
WiglyWorm	huh... same error.	12:47
MaxDamage``	come back after that so we can know if you're okay	12:47
MaxDamage``	oh	12:47
MaxDamage``	reboot?	12:47
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WiglyWorm	yeah i was about to ask	12:47
WiglyWorm	I thought this was better than windows. ~_^	12:47
dwidmann	I doubt that will help anything, bu t you're welcome to try it	12:47
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MaxDamage``	yeah, but still some things need the system to start over	12:47
WiglyWorm	Well, let's see what happens.	12:48
MaxDamage``	maybe restart x would do the same	12:48
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	it can be better than windows, but if you're expecing a windows clone that's easier, you're going to be disappointed.	12:48
dwidmann	Only if they involve kernel modules ... AFAIK	12:48
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dwidmann	or of course, the kernel itself	12:48
WiglyWorm	No, I'm certainly not expecting that.	12:48
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	i find it far superior to windows, purely because i can make it do what i need, when i need it	12:48
rEvolution27	hey guys, I have an amarok problem... When I try to play a file it doesn't do anything, it just rushes through the entire playlist and says playlist done	12:48
dwidmann	rEvolution27: which type of file?	12:48
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MaxDamage``	rEvolution27: lol i just imagined that	12:48
rEvolution27	mp3	12:49
\|Daisuke_Ido\|	!amarok-engines	12:49
ubotu	amarok-engines: output engines for the amaroK audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB	12:49
MaxDamage``	rEvolution27: download the amarok packages for the mp3 support	12:49
dwidmann	!mp3 \| rEvolution27	12:49
ubotu	rEvolution27: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	12:49
crazy_bus	How come the flashgot command Alt+click doesn't work in firefox in kubuntu?	12:49
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rEvolution27	yeh i tryied to install the mp3 stuff but it didn't do anything	12:49
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dwidmann	have you restarted amarok since rEvolution27	12:50
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rEvolution27	yeh	12:50
forceflow_	rEvolution27: tried automatix2 and all that jazz?	12:50
dwidmann	That's odd then	12:50
Daisuke_Ido	ew	12:50
dwidmann	eww indeed.	12:50
MaxDamage``	dwidmann: it asked me 3 times to install the packs	12:50
forceflow_	hey, it's just so easy:P	12:50
Daisuke_Ido	automatix = evil	12:50
forceflow_	lol	12:50
forceflow_	hey, dont attack me	12:50
rEvolution27	i tried easy ubuntu	12:50
MaxDamage``	yeah automatix = evil	12:50
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Daisuke_Ido	i'm not attacking you	12:50
MaxDamage``	i cant install it	12:50
forceflow_	;)	12:50
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MaxDamage``	requires 9 more packages	12:50
forceflow_	i just know it makes it easier for a lot of people	12:51
Daisuke_Ido	both are evil. anything they install can be installed pretty easily anyway	12:51
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forceflow_	i installed all mine from command line:P	12:51
dwidmann	so, rEvolution27, you've installed the "libxine-extracodecs" package?	12:51
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rEvolution27	umm i think something may be wrong with my adept too... all my repos say dapper	12:51
Daisuke_Ido	i just don't like the idea of a script that may do things i don't specifically want	12:51
rEvolution27	adept can't find the extracodecs package	12:51
forceflow_	yea, i understand that perfectly	12:51
dwidmann	rEvolution27: well then I'm pretty sure it probably isn't installed then	12:52
dwidmann	rEvolution27: are you running dapper or edgy?	12:52
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Daisuke_Ido	have you enabled universe in the repositories?	12:52
BluesKaj	yeah, learning to install different pkges from the cmnd line is much safer	12:52
dwidmann	Daisuke_Ido: he'	12:52
dwidmann	d need multiverse, actually	12:52
rEvolution27	well it's supposed to be edgy but al my repos say dapper	12:52
Daisuke_Ido	ah	12:52
bazyl	hallo	12:52
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rEvolution27	what's the multiverse repo?	12:53
Daisuke_Ido	i move that my last remark be edited, -uni +multi	12:53
rEvolution27	how do i add it? I couldn't find it in adept	12:53
forceflow_	some people just dont feel comfortable at command line is the only problem - hence, you get automatix2	12:53
Daisuke_Ido	!source-o-matic	12:53
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	12:53
Vigo	!multiverse	12:53
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	12:53
dwidmann	rEvolution27: try typing this in a terminal: sudo sed s/dapper/edgy/ /etc/apt/sources.list	12:53
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rEvolution27	that will update my apt sources?	12:54
Vigo	I never ran Kubuntu, so I cannot answer that	12:55
dwidmann	that will change all instances of dapper to edgy rEvolution27, what I said will anyway	12:55
dwidmann	hmm, might not save the changes, hmm	12:55
rEvolution27	oh :) no so good at command line yet ;)	12:55
Vigo	InUbuntu I use the Synaptic Package Manager, I guess it is the same	12:55
Daisuke_Ido	i use synaptic in kubuntu as well.	12:55
dwidmann	I've been experimenting with sed lately, looks like that won't save it, hmm	12:55
MaxDamage``	nope	12:55
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MaxDamage``	default is adept	12:55
MaxDamage``	i think.. :/	12:55
MaxDamage``	:p	12:55
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Daisuke_Ido	purely because i like its interface better.	12:56
rEvolution27	oh i'm confused	12:56
WiglyWorm	Reboots also do nothing. T_T	12:56
Vigo	In the package mager doohiky you can set it to search for Multiverse, Univeres, and whatever	12:56
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rEvolution27	dwidmann the code worked	12:57
Vigo	Its like a GUI interface, but as we all know, In the beginning was the command line	12:57
dwidmann	did it save the changes too, hmmmmm	12:57
rEvolution27	i can now install libxine-extracodecs	12:58
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rEvolution27	yeh it saved the changes	12:58
dwidmann	neato, it doesn't seem to for me :\	12:58
rEvolution27	where can i learn useful commands like that?	12:58
WiglyWorm	So any ideas on where to go with this error? "	12:58
WiglyWorm	/libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	12:58
Vigo	Kubuntu has Feisty ready for download?	12:59
BluesKaj	dwidmann, I'll ask again since you might know... the desktop pages minimize to the tray when the cursor is moved to the edges of the screen ...some may like it , but I find it annoying. How do i fix this?	12:59
dwidmann	rEvolution27: the man pages work well, the sed command is the stream editor ... pain in the butt to learn how to use it, but it's powerful	12:59
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rEvolution27	K guys amarok now has mp3 support ;)	12:59
dwidmann	Blueskaj, hmm, I've never had it do that o.O how did you turn that on, sounds potentially useful (and annoying)	01:00
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Vigo	YAY!	01:00
MaxDamage``	great	01:00
MaxDamage``	:p	01:00
rEvolution27	strange cuz the last time I installed kubuntu and i tryied to play an mp3 amarok asked me if I want it to automatically download the mp3 codec	01:00
BluesKaj	yeah , it could be useful dwidmann , but the prob is i don't know what i did to cause the effect :)	01:01
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Minataku	Aw.... genii isn't here	01:01
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rEvolution27	how do i find out what version of kubuntu I have?	01:02
dwidmann	lsb-release -a will tell	01:02
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dwidmann	**lsb_release	01:02
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jonah	i'm trying to get darkice working but i don't know what my alsa device is (hw:0,0?) how do i figure it out?	01:03
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BluesKaj	dwidmann, alt+F3 /configure windows/ animate windows and restore ;; turn it off ...	01:05
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rEvolution27	dwidmann no lsb modules are available	01:05
BluesKaj	nope that's wrong too	01:05
dwidmann	BluesKaj, I think I found something ... wait, it looks like you've found something too	01:05
dwidmann	rEvolution27: lsb_release -a	01:05
BluesKaj	ok what did you find , dwidmann ?	01:06
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dwidmann	BluesKaj, something that could provide similar effect is the Active desktop borders in the desktop -> window behavior -> advanced	01:06
rEvolution27	hmm it says i have 6.06 dapper but i was pretty sure i intalled edgy... how do i upgrade?	01:06
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BluesKaj	yes, dwidmann , found it as well , thx for the help :)	01:07
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MaxDamage``	<offtopic> omg, im blind...	01:09
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dwidmann	maxdamage, need contacts/glasses?	01:10
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dwidmann	rEvolution27: to upgrade, change all instances of dapper to edgy in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"	01:11
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K-Ryan	dwidmann, think it's worth it?	01:12
K-Ryan	or do you think Dapper is more stable right now?	01:12
dwidmann	I think both are pretty stable, so might as well go with the one that's more up-to-date :)	01:12
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sampan	might be less chance of things going awry (assuming one JUST installed dapper) to do a clean install of edgy	01:13
K-Ryan	well ive got a bunch, okay a couple dapper programs	01:13
K-Ryan	would they still work on edgy?	01:13
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dwidmann	K-Ryan, if anything, there are more programs in the edgy repos than dappers, if I remember right, it's close at any rate	01:14
K-Ryan	no, would dapper programs work in edgy?	01:14
sampan	k-ryan an upgrade from dapper will pull in the packages automatically (if they're available) ... if you did a clean install, you'd have to re-get them via apt/adept	01:14
K-Ryan	sampan for the record im not doing a clean install =P	01:15
K-Ryan	anyway, dapper programs dont work with edgy?	01:15
K-Ryan	unless it has an edgy update?	01:15
sampan	you can't transfer the packages ... but an upgrade would include the edgy packages (assuming they've been compiled for edgy, which they most likely would be) and so the "programs" would work just fine	01:16
K-Ryan	what do you mean i cant transfer the packages? if i install edgy they're wiped?	01:17
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sampan	if you did a CLEAN install (which you've said you aren't), you'd have to install them again (via apt/adept), but an UPGRADE from dapper to edgy will automatically download and install the upgraded packages in the upgrade process.	01:18
K-Ryan	How long would edgy take?	01:18
mineur	for a clean install?	01:19
K-Ryan	upgrade	01:19
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dwidmann	depends on your download speed, K-Ryan	01:19
dwidmann	Figure on a 500+mb download	01:19
K-Ryan	pffff	01:20
rEvolution27	lol	01:20
K-Ryan	take me an hour maybe	01:20
rEvolution27	what are the major differences?	01:20
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rEvolution27	between dappper and edgy	01:20
addyk	Can't belive I managed to enter with xchat :) Hello #kubuntu	01:20
MaxDamage``	uh, guys, how can i stream media on the net?	01:20
MaxDamage``	like an internet radio	01:20
K-Ryan	I think there are programs for it	01:20
MaxDamage``	i used to play a song for my friends when i had winamp and shoutcast	01:21
K-Ryan	Or at least there are things on the net for it	01:21
addyk	stdin: Hello! :) What's your sleeping hours man :) You're sti	01:21
dwidmann	biggest difference is that things are more up to date.	01:21
addyk	almost always online :)	01:21
mineur	isn't there a shoutcast plugin for xmms??	01:21
dwidmann	addyk, you seem confused, stdin most obviously doesn't sleep o.o	01:22
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K-Ryan	!sources	01:22
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	01:22
K-Ryan	what is the path to sources.list i always foget	01:22
addyk	dwidmann: Wow... Is there people that CAN do that? :)	01:22
K-Ryan	*forget	01:22
addyk	*are	01:22
sampan	k-ryan /etc/apt/sources.list	01:22
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K-Ryan	sampan thx	01:22
sampan	np	01:23
mineur	!oddcast	01:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about oddcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:23
dwidmann	Which leads me to believe that stdin in might be a mechnical being, fueled by strong coffee o.O	01:23
addyk	:))	01:23
mineur	MaxDamage``: look on www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv3_jack/	01:23
Daisuke_Ido	me prays for the day he can play You Don't Know Jack in linux	01:23
MaxDamage``	thanks :)	01:23
Daisuke_Ido	yeah, pretend i put a / before that, k?	01:24
sampan	hehe	01:24
addyk	dwidmann: it was you that said the new name for TuxRacer, no?	01:25
addyk	Em... :\|	01:25
addyk	What was it again?	01:25
dwidmann	erm, I don't think it was me	01:25
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addyk	Hmm, darn... :\|	01:25
dwidmann	Unless I've been typing in my sleep again	01:25
addyk	You can ... DO... that??? (o.O)	01:26
BluesKaj	lol	01:26
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dwidmann	One can only suspect o.O	01:26
addyk	Oh my... :\| I wonder if I did that too O_O	01:26
addyk	Yet, more... WHAT did I write if I did... @.@	01:27
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BluesKaj	\O_O /	01:27
K-Ryan	uhh, I changed everything in my repos to edgy and updated	01:27
K-Ryan	clicked the "fetch updates" im supposed to do something else right/	01:27
addyk	Anyway... it's late at night for me... 02:28. Good night #kubuntu :)	01:28
K-Ryan	or did i just install edgy? o.O	01:28
mineur	addyk: PlanetPenguin Racer :)	01:28
K-Ryan	g'night addyk	01:28
addyk	Thanx !!!! :D	01:28
K-Ryan	=P	01:28
dwidmann	addyk, there's just no telling!	01:29
addyk	:D	01:29
dwidmann	'night addyk	01:29
mineur	np :)	01:29
K-Ryan	dwidmann i dont think i did this rigth	01:29
K-Ryan	*right	01:29
mineur	but their site seems down :)	01:29
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K-Ryan	i changed everything in my repos from dapper to edgy	01:29
dwidmann	K-Ryan, what did you do?	01:29
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K-Ryan	fetched updates on those	01:29
K-Ryan	now im upgrading my programs for edgy	01:29
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K-Ryan	i think	01:29
K-Ryan	i clicked full upgrade and applied	01:30
mineur	!upgrade	01:30
ubotu	See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)	01:30
jorze	ola	01:30
dwidmann	You may want to click on "full upgrade" Ryan	01:30
K-Ryan	I did	01:30
dwidmann	and it did what/	01:30
genii	!otrs	01:30
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ubotu	otrs: Open Ticket Request System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3.3p01-2 (edgy), package size 913 kB, installed size 6032 kB	01:30
K-Ryan	It went through the edgy repos and now its installing	01:30
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K-Ryan	but it says down at the bottom	01:30
K-Ryan	"download 29M, installtion: 10M"	01:30
K-Ryan	this cant be edgy	01:31
K-Ryan	can it?	01:31
dwidmann	interesting, sounds kinda small	01:31
K-Ryan	mind you im just upgrading	01:31
dwidmann	what does "lsb_release -sc" say?	01:31
mineur	!upgrade > K-Ryan	01:31
genii	Anyone know if otrs or rt for 6.06 server? Can't seem to find it on apt-cache search there	01:31
K-Ryan	mineur, I've got it, dwidmann is helping me anyway	01:31
K-Ryan	type in the terminal dwidmann?	01:31
dwidmann	yup	01:31
K-Ryan	dapper	01:32
K-Ryan	i havent logged out and in or rebooted	01:32
dwidmann	Well, that's right, hmm, I wonder why it's only downloading 229mb ...	01:32
dwidmann	**29m	01:32
rEvolution27	after I read many distaster stories of upgrading to edgy and some articles which say that dapper is more stable, i might stick with it	01:32
dope	so how does everyone feel about municipal wifi?	01:32
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K-Ryan	!adeptfix	01:33
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	01:33
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BluesKaj	edgy works fine for me	01:33
mineur	edgy works fine,stable,nice and sweet here :)	01:33
dwidmann	I did a clean install with edgy after hearing disaster stories ... though I could have fixed it had I done the upgrade. I just didn't feel like waiting days for it to download.	01:33
mineur	I did a fresh install tho :)	01:33
sampan	revolution27 i read some of those upgrade stories too, which is why i just did a clean install. worked flawlessly and got rid of a lot of unused packages	01:33
rEvolution27	if i do a clean install how do i save all the settings and programs i have? Or do i have to just re-do everything?	01:34
dwidmann	K-Ryan, did adept crash on you?	01:34
K-Ryan	No, just wrote it down for later =P	01:35
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sampan	revolution27 you'll have to redo everything, but if you JUST installed dapper a day or two ago, that shouldn't be too hard	01:35
rEvolution27	I my install cd was edgy in the fist place and ended up with dapper lol	01:35
malik_	can any one help me with my stupid firefox?.........it cant remember how to open wma files from a http site?	01:35
dwidmann	Well, it's actually easy to save your list of packages and add them back after a clean install, I have a cronjob set to back up my list once a week	01:36
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rEvolution27	I might just wait for feisty on the other hand	01:37
dwidmann	That'll be a long wait	01:37
dwidmann	Granted, I'm waiting for it too :D	01:37
rEvolution27	What I really want is kde 4	01:37
K-Ryan	Whacha mean by the waiting?	01:38
K-Ryan	Feisty is going to be on CD?	01:38
dwidmann	rEvolution27: that'll be an even longer wait	01:38
rEvolution27	crap	01:38
malik_	can any one help me with my stupid firefox?.........it cant remember how to open wma files from a http site?.........any help wud be great i wanna learn how to play a wma file in firefox from a http site i can download n play it by i wanna stream and play it with kaffiene	01:38
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rEvolution27	I saw a guide on that but I just can't remember where :(	01:39
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endo602	how do i format an ntfs	01:40
K-Ryan	dwidmann, the upgrade wiki reccomends doing this in a console session, is it that important?	01:40
dwidmann	K-Ryan: Ummm, I doubt it's all that important, I usually do it with my gui up ...	01:41
dwidmann	does it say why?	01:41
K-Ryan	"I recommend doing this from a console session."	01:41
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endo602	How do i format an ntfs to ext3?	01:41
mineur	delete the partition and make a new one with qtparted	01:42
dwidmann	k-ryan, I usually bing up konsole in my gui session and do it from there ...	01:42
rEvolution27	endo602 i'm no expert but i use qtparted	01:42
K-Ryan	dwidmann thanks, i'll try it out from there	01:42
dwidmann	endo602, you won't be able to convert, you'll need to back it up, delete the ntfs partition,a nd then create the new partition using parted, qtparted, or something else if you don't like those.	01:43
endo602	ok	01:43
endo602	do i have to mount it then	01:44
dwidmann	k-ryan, I've not trusted gui package managers since I saw how crashy they could be with ubuntu 4.10 (warty). It segfaulted every few minutes, I was so annoyed.	01:44
rEvolution27	This sounds impossible but can you move the physical location of a partition on a disk?	01:44
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K-Ryan	I'm not using a package manager, I am using the Konsole	01:44
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K-Ryan	Just didn't know if I could leave my background running	01:44
dwidmann	K-Ryan, dpkg/apt is a package manger, you're just not using a graphical frontend :)	01:45
mineur	rEvolution27: yes, but it's not without a risk :)	01:46
K-Ryan	dwidmann the installs keep having unmet dependencies	01:46
K-Ryan	did i do something wrong?	01:46
dwidmann	K-Ryan, hopefully not	01:46
K-Ryan	wait a second, i skipped apt-get -u dist-upgrade	01:46
K-Ryan	silly me =)	01:46
malik_	can any one help with firefox and wma media issue?	01:46
dwidmann	what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like?	01:46
dwidmann	Oh	01:46
dwidmann	that would help	01:46
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K-Ryan	i still cant get something	01:47
dwidmann	malik_ I googled and I think I may have found something for ya	01:47
K-Ryan	The following packages have unmet dependencies:	01:47
K-Ryan	kubuntu-desktop: Depends: x-window-system-core	01:47
dwidmann	weird	01:47
dwidmann	K-Ryan: try sudo apt-get upgrade instead, perhaps	01:48
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dwidmann	malik_: http://willcode4beer.blogspot.com/2006/06/linux-firefox-and-kaffeine.html	01:48
malik_	that wud be great coz i cudnt find any thing	01:48
wolfwalker	So, there really is a dsl channel	01:49
wolfwalker	Imagine that	01:49
rEvolution27	lol	01:49
rEvolution27	what's wrong with dsl?	01:49
wolfwalker	Okay, I've just about given up on installing ANY program remotely	01:49
wolfwalker	Remotely = downloading the programs from my Windows computer and porting them up to my Linux computer with my flash drive	01:50
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Soccrmastr	"The animals will hear!" bellowed the ear licking penguin as the awesomely endowed midget sucked her oozing charlies and plugged his purple middle leg into her festering cunt.	01:50
Soccrmastr	oops... wrong window	01:50
mineur	K-Ryan: did you do sudo update-manager -c -d ? that's the way to upgrade	01:50
K-Ryan	!pastebin	01:50
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	01:50
wolfwalker	The dependencies had dependencies, which had dependencies, which had dependencies, which had dependencies, which had dependencies...........	01:50
mineur	wolfwalker: sounds like RPM :p	01:50
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K-Ryan	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1894/	01:51
wolfwalker	No, just Audacity, the best music editor I've ever found	01:51
dwidmann	o.O wrong window indeed Soccrmastr	01:51
dwidmann	wolfwalker, that's how things go	01:51
K-Ryan	i just read what Soccrmastr posted and laughed so hard	01:51
wolfwalker	I guess I'll just have to drag the computer and all associated stuff down here and get Adept to do it for me	01:51
mineur	that's indeed the easiest way	01:52
K-Ryan	look at my paste, did i do something wrong?	01:52
wolfwalker	Easy is a highly relative concept	01:52
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rEvolution27	is there an update-manager for kubuntu?	01:53
wolfwalker	rEvolution27: Yes	01:53
wolfwalker	Adept	01:53
wolfwalker	I think..........	01:53
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mineur	yes there is	01:53
mineur	to upgrade to edgy from dapper: sudo update-manager -c -d	01:54
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Bizzeh	hey	01:54
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Bizzeh	i just installed kubuntu	01:54
rEvolution27	ok thanks that's what i wanted	01:54
K-Ryan	mineur, what's the catch?	01:54
mineur	just to get the latest version of packages use adept or synaptic	01:54
soulrider	Bizzeh: great!	01:54
Bizzeh	i managed to get my wireless installed	01:54
Bizzeh	but	01:54
K-Ryan	the wiki gives me a big list of things to do	01:54
dwidmann	K-Ryan, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core	01:54
Bizzeh	i cant get my wireless to work right	01:54
Bizzeh	i cant set my WPA-PSK key	01:55
Bizzeh	it only lets me set WEP	01:55
soulrider	Bizzeh: i dont think i can help you since i dont have a wireless network, byt probably someone here does	01:55
Soccrmastr	geez just use WEP then lol	01:55
soulrider	!wpa	01:55
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:55
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soulrider	try that link	01:55
K-Ryan	dwidmann same problem but this time x-window-system-core is missing xorg	01:55
mineur	as far as I know, there is no catch... but I never did it myself	01:55
dwidmann	then add xorg to the list ... eventually you'll run into whatever the problem was, or it will go away silently	01:56
K-Ryan	i added that	01:56
K-Ryan	and now i got a nice chunk of dependencies	01:56
flipjarg	hi all, anyone know why my Firefox is crashing when i visit sites that use flash? i just installed the flash player through FireFox. i don't have anything else installed. Everything else is default besides that.	01:56
dwidmann	add them to the list too ...	01:56
K-Ryan	but its a lot!	01:56
dwidmann	Hmmm	01:56
K-Ryan	7!	01:56
rEvolution27	mineur: sudo: update-manager: command not found	01:56
flipjarg	... i'm running 6.10 Edgy Eft.	01:56
K-Ryan	and some say "but it is not going to be installed"	01:57
K-Ryan	or "But it is not installable"	01:57
Bizzeh	i try what it says	01:57
K-Ryan	is Kubuntu mocking me?	01:57
forceflow_	yes, of course	01:57
dwidmann	K-Ryan: well, dependency resolution is a pain in the butt, but just keep adding them to the list of packages to install your command ... you'll find the real problem _eventually_	01:58
K-Ryan	>.<	01:58
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wolfwalker	WHAT?!	01:58
dwidmann	It's also a possibility that there is a problem with the mirror, which mirror are you using?	01:58
K-Ryan	edgy	01:58
wolfwalker	dwidmann, I thought Adept got all the dependencies for you	01:58
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wolfwalker	That's what I was told anyway	01:58
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dwidmann	wolfwalker, the upgrade process in ubuntu doesn't seem to be even 1/10th as smooth as in debian ...	01:59
malik_	can any one tell me how to make firefox remember settings for playing wma files off the net?	01:59
rEvolution27	man I had dependency issues with nvidia drivers and berly once. I had to do a clean install	01:59
endo602	only formating 5 g	02:00
K-Ryan	I added all the dependency issues and now i get this	02:00
mineur	K-Ryan: have you seend this too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades ?	02:00
mineur	here they say it's not recommended to upgrade with apt-get	02:00
K-Ryan	"Package libgl1-mesa-glx is not availible, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only availible from another source. E: Package libgl1-mesa-glx has no installation candidate	02:01
K-Ryan	"	02:01
dwidmann	Here's a kicker for yah mineur	02:01
dwidmann	!info update-manager	02:01
ubotu	update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45 (edgy), package size 775 kB, installed size 3652 kB	02:01
rEvolution27	mineur i can't use update-manger it says command not found	02:01
K-Ryan	Well mineur your other nice little ! says "use apt-get"	02:02
mineur	and because we use kde we're not allowed to use gnome apps? :)	02:02
K-Ryan	So you're not being helpful	02:02
dwidmann	It kind of helps if they're there/installed/etc	02:02
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mineur	:)	02:02
dwidmann	and to download all of its dependencies would likely be time consuming	02:02
rEvolution27	so i can just use adept to get update-manager	02:03
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K-Ryan	mineur that last link isnt even for kubuntu	02:04
mineur	oh come on.... how many times... kubuntu is not a different distro then ubuntu!!!	02:04
wolfwalker	lol	02:05
K-Ryan	No but the install is different	02:05
mineur	it's the SAME, yes the same, even using the same repository...	02:05
dwidmann	No, but it does come with different packages installed, so instructions may vary.	02:05
K-Ryan	And I want Kubuntu, not Ubuntu	02:05
jamrs	oh god you may get some enjoyment out of this	02:05
jamrs	http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=707375	02:05
dwidmann	jamrs: I better :D	02:06
endo602	what is the command to copy to directory	02:06
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jamrs	scroll down to matt's 3rd response	02:06
dwidmann	endo602: cp	02:06
jamrs	when he tries to use my instructions	02:06
endo602	to copy directory?	02:06
endo602	or files	02:06
dwidmann	cp -R	02:06
dwidmann	then	02:06
endo602	nice	02:06
dwidmann	jamr: is the object of entertainment matt00926's avatar?	02:07
Soccrmastr	jamrs: HAHAH	02:07
mineur	the second link... it even gives you the instructions for kubuntu... when using the not recommended way... I'm still not convinced why you're trying to do it with apt-get... but it's your system, your choice :)	02:07
K-Ryan	!libgl1-mesa-glx	02:07
ubotu	libgl1-mesa-glx: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 524 kB	02:07
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K-Ryan	Could that be giving me trouble because of my fglfx thing?	02:08
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rEvolution27	hey k-ryan: try this, get update-manage from adept and then in terminal type sudo update-manager -c -d	02:08
rEvolution27	update-manager*	02:08
endo602	what id the command to copy all files and files in subdir	02:09
rEvolution27	k i'm gonna update now c ya later.	02:10
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dwidmann	endo602, you could do cp -R source_directory/* destination_directory	02:10
endo602	damn	02:10
endo602	how do i purge a command in console	02:11
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dwidmann	purge a command?	02:11
mineur	purge?	02:11
endo602	stop a cpying	02:11
mineur	ctrl + c :)	02:11
dwidmann	ctrl +c	02:11
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K-Ryan	dwidmann i tried that sudo update-manager -c -d	02:12
dwidmann	I've never tried it, what'd it do?	02:12
K-Ryan	absolutely nothing except give me some more read outs	02:13
dwidmann	read outs?	02:13
K-Ryan	!pastebin	02:13
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	02:13
K-Ryan	stuff in the terminal =P	02:13
K-Ryan	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1898/	02:13
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K-Ryan	i mean, im looking at it, but nothing jumps out at me	02:14
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K-Ryan	apt API not stable yet?	02:14
K-Ryan	oops i included it twice...	02:14
dwidmann	apt api not stable yet? I remember hearing that about the python-apt bindings	02:14
rEvolution27	i got the last error too	02:14
K-Ryan	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1899/	02:15
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dwidmann	I've no idea what the trouble is, something seems to be missing is all I can tell, either that or you've found a bug	02:15
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K-Ryan	how about the very last line	02:16
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K-Ryan	"can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk	02:16
K-Ryan	"	02:16
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dwidmann	that's the line I'm talking about	02:16
K-Ryan	Oh	02:16
rEvolution27	that's the error i go	02:16
dwidmann	the X related lines don't matter	02:16
rEvolution27	i got	02:16
K-Ryan	revolution27 you havent fixed it either did you?	02:17
K-Ryan	*didn't	02:17
rEvolution27	sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list	02:17
rEvolution27	sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	02:17
rEvolution27	that'll do it all	02:17
bky_	can anyone give me advice on my error I stated in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2014485#post2014485 ? I posted it a few days ago and no reply...	02:17
tobi	Another funny newbie question: I want to copy a folder into another, but I am not the owner of both. how can I handle this prob?	02:18
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rEvolution27	go root?	02:19
bky_	sudo cp [old file] [new file]	02:19
K-Ryan	okay something is happening	02:19
mineur	sudo cp -R source destination	02:19
K-Ryan	big downloads	02:19
bky_	sudo chown [your name] [newfile]	02:19
rEvolution27	you did what i told you?	02:19
K-Ryan	yup	02:20
tobi	i try	02:20
dwidmann	sed is awesome :)	02:20
rEvolution27	yeh that's the way to go	02:20
K-Ryan	I'm only at 12% and I have a very fast internet	02:20
malik_	Jucato: u there mate?.....sorry to trouble u	02:20
K-Ryan	connection	02:20
K-Ryan	So I assume this is what I needed to do	02:20
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K-Ryan	So once it's done I should reboot right?	02:20
rEvolution27	ofcourse i found this in the link mineur posted that you were critisizing	02:20
rEvolution27	:)	02:21
dwidmann	that's not far off what I said to do	02:21
K-Ryan	I thought that would leave with me ubuntu	02:21
dwidmann	I only recently learned how to use sed properly ...	02:21
K-Ryan	and i hope it doesnt	02:21
rEvolution27	no it won't	02:21
dwidmann	from the vim help files no less	02:21
K-Ryan	dwidmann if it makes you feel better, i dont know what it does either =)	02:21
dwidmann	vim is awesome too	02:21
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K-Ryan	woohoo, 24% already	02:21
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rEvolution27	I think the only difference between kubunut and ubuntu is the k desktop environment	02:22
dwidmann	K-Ryan: that said command was nothing but a little bit of search and replace action	02:22
dwidmann	vim is a text editor	02:22
K-Ryan	rEvolution27 I like the K desktop environment	02:22
K-Ryan	a lot	02:22
dwidmann	no, wait, I take that back, vim is THE text editor :D	02:22
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rEvolution27	yes and you won't loose kde	02:23
K-Ryan	Okey	02:23
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rEvolution27	ok guys i'lll leave this update over night	02:23
rEvolution27	c ya	02:23
K-Ryan	So are there any noticable differences in edgy?	02:23
K-Ryan	wait revolution27	02:23
K-Ryan	How far are you?	02:23
K-Ryan	in the update	02:23
rEvolution27	13%	02:23
dwidmann	apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop, apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop ... that'll show you the differences, in full	02:23
K-Ryan	I'm already 34% =)	02:23
rEvolution27	k	02:24
K-Ryan	=P	02:24
dwidmann	One thing you'll notice is that konsole and kate start a lot faster :)	02:24
sampan	edgy boots faster for me too	02:24
K-Ryan	How much faster can they start?	02:24
K-Ryan	faster booting is nice	02:24
K-Ryan	Although Dapper boots nicely for me too	02:24
sampan	although, i never booted that often (last time before edgy install was 145 days prior)	02:24
K-Ryan	perhaps a little slower than Xp	02:24
K-Ryan	XP	02:24
dwidmann	konsole and kate start quite fast ... I think those optimizations found their way into the 3.5.5 release of kde	02:25
K-Ryan	But I don't care, this is better	02:25
K-Ryan	Almost half way there, 41%	02:25
K-Ryan	42%	02:25
dwidmann	even if xp boots faster, just think back on how long it is until it's actually at a usable state ... all of those anti-malware programs having to load up ;)	02:25
K-Ryan	Yeah that's what I was thinking	02:25
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K-Ryan	It's not really looking back, I'm an avid gamer	02:26
K-Ryan	Although since I got Kubuntu working I haven't booted in XP once...	02:26
dwidmann	so how large of a download do you have on your hands K-Ryan?	02:26
K-Ryan	15 minutes	02:26
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K-Ryan	downloading half a meg per second	02:26
K-Ryan	not bad considering my bro is surfing the web and playing games =)	02:27
K-Ryan	48%	02:27
K-Ryan	49%	02:27
K-Ryan	50%!	02:27
dwidmann	I'm jealous :(	02:27
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j__	I need to occupy myself for the next 6hrs, ideas? sleeping is not an option	02:28
K-Ryan	j__ goto your terminal	02:28
K-Ryan	sudo apt-get install barrage	02:28
K-Ryan	sudo apt-get install craft	02:28
K-Ryan	games =P	02:28
dwidmann	j__, install crack-attack and frozen-bubble, or maybe kmahjongg	02:29
j__	barrage is a Rampart copy, right?	02:29
K-Ryan	Don't know what Rampart is	02:29
j__	craft is what?	02:29
K-Ryan	kmahjongg is good	02:29
K-Ryan	Craft is kind of an RTS	02:29
j__	castles, cannons, shooting	02:29
rmarianski	craft - Warcraft 2-like multi-player real-time strategy game	02:29
K-Ryan	!craft	02:29
ubotu	craft: Warcraft 2-like multi-player real-time strategy game. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1008 kB, installed size 14752 kB	02:29
K-Ryan	2/3 of the way done!	02:30
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K-Ryan	7/10	02:31
dwidmann	I want that internet connection ...	02:31
K-Ryan	lol	02:31
soulrider	!barrage	02:32
ubotu	barrage: Rather violent action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-1 (edgy), package size 399 kB, installed size 1956 kB	02:32
soulrider	thanks	02:32
K-Ryan	barrage is fun, you're a cannon and have to bombard things passing by	02:32
soulrider	!botsnack	02:32
ubotu	Yum!	02:32
K-Ryan	Hah!	02:32
malik_	how do i remove firefox and completely remove all of its settings from system?	02:32
K-Ryan	!botsnack	02:32
K-Ryan	3/4 done	02:32
soulrider	malik_: sudo aptitude purge firefox	02:32
dwidmann	yum? NOoooooo, ubotu has defected to SuSE T_T	02:32
soulrider	LOL	02:33
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K-Ryan	4/5 done	02:33
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K-Ryan	17/20	02:34
soulrider	K-Ryan: we got it :P	02:34
K-Ryan	You are all going to watch it with me =)	02:34
soulrider	until an opt gets pissed off and kicks you :P	02:35
soulrider	op*	02:35
K-Ryan	Why would they kick me? Nobody is talking	02:35
K-Ryan	And I'm enjoying this	02:35
K-Ryan	9/10	02:35
K-Ryan	=)	02:35
dwidmann	and I'm crying out of jealousy :( I'm stuck with a lousy satellite connection	02:35
soulrider	dwidmann: speed ?	02:36
K-Ryan	I love watching the terminal	02:36
K-Ryan	it's like the matrix, but you can actually read everything	02:36
soulrider	lol	02:36
soulrider	lol, i like the console	02:36
dwidmann	speed tops around 80kbs, wouldn't be too bad if there weren't an ugly FAP to ruin it ...	02:36
soulrider	makes me feel geeky :P	02:37
soulrider	dwidmann: thats faster than mine :P	02:37
K-Ryan	80kb/s? it still gets stuff done	02:37
soulrider	and whats a FAP ?	02:37
K-Ryan	19/20	02:37
soulrider	K-Ryan: wtf? 80 is great!	02:37
K-Ryan	So is my 670kb/s atm	02:37
K-Ryan	=)	02:37
dwidmann	Fair Access Policy, they cut the connection for about 8-12 hours after I have downloaded around 130mb	02:37
soulrider	wtf? really? why ?	02:38
K-Ryan	99%	02:38
K-Ryan	WOO!	02:38
K-Ryan	DONE!	02:38
dwidmann	my momma always said that satellite internet providers are the devil?	02:38
K-Ryan	576MB in 18m52s (509kb/s)	02:38
dwidmann	in other words, I say it's because they're jerks.	02:39
K-Ryan	Sounds like they want more money for less work	02:39
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macronyx	hi..someone unsing krusader? I can't find the way how to save ftp session?	02:40
dwidmann	here's another way to put it, they "sell more bandwidth than they actually have on the assumption that people won't use it, and when the people do use it then they get pissy and complain"	02:40
K-Ryan	Yep	02:40
soulrider	is there another ISP around there ?	02:40
K-Ryan	uhh, I'm getting a lot of warning things while upgrading	02:40
macronyx	Ctrl+N New Network Connection but no way how to save those dates?	02:41
K-Ryan	theres a lot going on and it looks ok	02:41
dwidmann	warnings like?	02:41
K-Ryan	moves too fast	02:41
dwidmann	soulrider, I wish	02:41
K-Ryan	why do you think he has satellite?	02:41
dwidmann	Well, I could get dialup ... that's my only other option	02:41
K-Ryan	perl: warning: Setting locale failed.	02:41
soulrider	that REALLY sucks	02:41
K-Ryan	perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:	02:41
K-Ryan	LANGUAGE = "en",	02:42
K-Ryan	LC_ALL = (unset),	02:42
soulrider	every time they stop your connection after the 130mb you should call them and go berserk	02:42
K-Ryan	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"	02:42
K-Ryan	are supported and installed on your system.	02:42
K-Ryan	perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").	02:42
K-Ryan	perl: warning: Setting locale failed.	02:42
K-Ryan	perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:	02:42
dwidmann	ignore the locale warnings for now k-ryan	02:42
K-Ryan	LANGUAGE = "en",	02:42
K-Ryan	LC_ALL = (unset),	02:42
K-Ryan	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"	02:42
K-Ryan	are supported and installed on your system.	02:42
K-Ryan	perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").	02:42
K-Ryan	Sorry for the spammage	02:42
K-Ryan	Meant to paste in pastebin >.>	02:42
K-Ryan	Okay, it just kind of made me go "Oh what the hell is going on now?"	02:42
K-Ryan	!botsnack	02:43
ubotu	Yum!	02:43
K-Ryan	Is there any purpose to that lol?	02:43
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dwidmann	self satisfaction?	02:43
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K-Ryan	Does he become "ubotu(fat)" if we give him too many?	02:43
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K-Ryan	lol..	02:43
dwidmann	lol	02:44
dwidmann	K-Ryan, after that upgrade is finished, for matters of safety, run "sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" just to make sure it got everything.	02:45
K-Ryan	can i type it like that?	02:45
dwidmann	Yes.	02:45
dwidmann	or you could copy and paste, without the quotes, if you so desired	02:45
K-Ryan	so thats kind of like "install this, then install this"	02:45
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K-Ryan	well "do this, then that"	02:45
dwidmann	sure, why not	02:46
K-Ryan	=P	02:46
K-Ryan	Then just give it a quick reboot?	02:46
dwidmann	it should already be "all there", it's just a very, very good idea to do this after the upgrade though, to ensure it didn't miss anything, because if it had, you could be left with something like say ... an unbootable system?	02:46
dwidmann	Well, yeah, then just give it a reboot	02:47
K-Ryan	Okey	02:47
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K-Ryan	http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1618/snapshot1sp1.jpg	02:48
K-Ryan	i just read a "Unpacking popularity contest"	02:49
K-Ryan	in the terminal	02:49
K-Ryan	What is that? o.O	02:49
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dwidmann	popularity contest ... I forget what that package does	02:49
dwidmann	!info popularity-contest	02:49
ubotu	popularity-contest: Vote for your favourite packages automatically. In component main, is standard. Version 1.33ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 212 kB	02:49
K-Ryan	o.O	02:49
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K-Ryan	hmmm	02:53
K-Ryan	!vista	02:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about vista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:53
K-Ryan	!windowsvista	02:53
lupine_85	!drm	02:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about windowsvista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:53
lupine_85	lol	02:53
K-Ryan	!windows	02:53
ubotu	For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	02:53
K-Ryan	heheh	02:53
lupine_85	!pwned-by-microsoft	02:53
K-Ryan	nearest mental health institute, heheh	02:53
lupine_85	sulk	02:53
lupine_85	bad ubotu	02:53
K-Ryan	!botsnack	02:53
ubotu	Yum!	02:53
Daisuke_Ido	well. tagtool has effectively mangled a ton of id3 tags.	02:54
Daisuke_Ido	that's lovely	02:54
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dwidmann	Daisuke_Ido, I bet	02:54
Daisuke_Ido	!evil	02:54
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about evil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:54
K-Ryan	!tux	02:54
ubotu	tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/	02:54
Daisuke_Ido	that's one thing i still go to wine for	02:55
dwidmann	Sorry, I don't know anything about evil either, please try searching www.microsoft.com ...	02:55
K-Ryan	lol!	02:55
Daisuke_Ido	ultra tag editor	02:55
dwidmann	Hmm, I always found amarok to be sufficient for tagging ..	02:55
Daisuke_Ido	mass tagging albums from freedb?	02:56
dwidmann	Hmm, I haven't done any mass tagging in a while, I used to have something that did that though ...	02:56
dwidmann	I've got everything tagged though, so I guess I forgot what it was ... most of my stuff I rip myself anyway.	02:56
Daisuke_Ido	if i'm just editing files here and there, i use amarok	02:56
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Daisuke_Ido	my big problem with tags is my sansa e260	02:57
dwidmann	What's that?	02:57
Daisuke_Ido	it doesn't like id3v1 tags, and doesn't like id3v2.4 either	02:57
Daisuke_Ido	mp3 player	02:57
Daisuke_Ido	4gb flash-based, nano-like form factor	02:57
K-Ryan	my video camera doubles as an mp3 player =)	02:58
K-Ryan	2gb sd card	02:58
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K-Ryan	headphones or the one speaker on it	02:59
K-Ryan	plus it takes digital stills	02:59
K-Ryan	up to 8mega pixels	02:59
K-Ryan	the video isnt bad either ,640x480	03:00
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K-Ryan	and it's Kubuntu friendly	03:00
K-Ryan	=)	03:00
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dwidmann	Daisuke_Ido: hmm, I just did a quick apt-cache search and I wonder if "easytag" would do it for you	03:00
Daisuke_Ido	nope	03:01
Daisuke_Ido	i think i've tried almost all of them :(	03:01
K-Ryan	setup seems to have stalled at "setting up libxmlsec1-nss (1.2.9-3ubuntu2) . . .	03:01
K-Ryan	"	03:02
dwidmann	what sort of tags does your player like Daisuke_Ido	03:02
dwidmann	if it won't take id3v1/2	03:02
Daisuke_Ido	id3v2 through id3v2.3	03:02
Daisuke_Ido	it just doesn't like 2.4, which is what easytag writes	03:02
dwidmann	hmm	03:02
dwidmann	picky isn't it	03:02
Daisuke_Ido	i'm hoping that the next firmware update will fix that	03:02
Daisuke_Ido	it is	03:02
Daisuke_Ido	not to mention the headache trying to get playlists on the damn thing	03:03
K-Ryan	!libxmlsec1-nss	03:03
ubotu	libxmlsec1-nss: Nss engine for the XML security library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.9-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 252 kB	03:03
K-Ryan	uhh, any idea why upgrading to edgy has stalled?	03:04
firecrotc1	K-Ryan: where has it stalled?	03:05
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K-Ryan	"Setting up libxmlsec1-nss (1.2.9- 3ubuntu2) . . ."	03:05
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iron	can any one help me find streamturner?	03:06
firecrotc1	K-Ryan: are you upgrading using apt-get dist-upgrade, or did you just change your sources.list to edgy?	03:07
K-Ryan	could it be because i have konversation open?	03:07
K-Ryan	firecrotc1 I had to use some sed command	03:07
firecrotc1	wait what? Why?	03:07
dwidmann	sudo sed -e s/dapper/edgy/ -i /etc/apt/sources.list <--- this one	03:08
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firecrotc1	Okay, I see. If I recall correctly, there are a LOT of problems with upgrading by just editing your sources.list file (which is what you did)	03:09
firecrotc1	You should use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	03:09
K-Ryan	Uhh, I used these	03:09
K-Ryan	sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list	03:09
K-Ryan	[20:17] <rEvolution27> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	03:09
dwidmann	k-ryan, you say it just stalled, right, if it stalled that's a problem betwen you and the server you're downloading from	03:10
K-Ryan	im not downloading	03:10
firecrotc1	dwidmann: except he said that it stalled while configuring one of the packages	03:10
K-Ryan	it says "Setting up libxmlsec1-nss (1.2.9- 3ubuntu2) . . ."	03:10
dwidmann	hmm	03:10
dwidmann	some of them just take a long while to configure ...	03:10
thev	arghh! Apt is broken. It keeps trying to upgrad wpasupplicant but it always fails, and I can't remove the package either. Now I get a failure anytime I try to install a different package as well	03:10
dwidmann	I doubt they'd take more than 5 minutes though	03:10
thev	any ideas?	03:10
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dwidmann	thev: apt-get -f install, then try to remove it again	03:11
iron	does any one know where i can find streamturner?	03:11
K-Ryan	its been at least 5 minutes	03:11
K-Ryan	almost 10	03:11
K-Ryan	wait	03:11
K-Ryan	dont i feel stupid	03:12
thev	dwidmann - tried that. No dice.	03:12
dwidmann	!info streamtuner \| iron	03:12
ubotu	streamtuner: A GUI audio stream directory browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 606 kB, installed size 2160 kB	03:12
K-Ryan	for some reason the scroll bar was way up high	03:12
K-Ryan	>.>	03:12
thev	it returns the same error as the upgrade	03:12
firecrotc1	Hahahahaha, I've done that before, K-Ryan	03:12
thev	something about the script returning error exit status 10	03:12
dwidmann	I'm guilty as well k-ryan	03:12
K-Ryan	Okay now I've got something else	03:12
K-Ryan	Configuration file `/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc'	03:12
K-Ryan	==> File on system created by you or by a script.	03:13
dwidmann	thev: hmm, how about dpkg --purge packagename	03:13
K-Ryan	==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.	03:13
K-Ryan	What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:	03:13
K-Ryan	Y or I : install the package maintainer's version	03:13
K-Ryan	N or O : keep your currently-installed version	03:13
K-Ryan	D : show the differences between the versions	03:13
K-Ryan	Z : background this process to examine the situation	03:13
lupine_85	!pastebin	03:13
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	03:13
lupine_85	etc	03:13
K-Ryan	I know lupine	03:13
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dwidmann	that's your choice k-ryan, debhelper is throwing choices at you, asking if you want to upgrade certain files, because you might have configured them	03:13
K-Ryan	i dont know what the file is though	03:14
K-Ryan	!qt_plugins_3.3rc	03:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about qt_plugins_3.3rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:14
dwidmann	then say yes,	03:14
K-Ryan	okey	03:14
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thev	Package is in a very bad inconsisten state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal	03:14
thev	I think it's just toying with me at this point	03:14
dwidmann	thev: "apt-get --reinstall install packagename" then?	03:14
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thev	same error	03:15
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thev	script returned error exit status 10	03:15
dwidmann	hmm, thev, I have an idea, if you're running edgy	03:16
lupine_85	ah, it's a script problem?	03:16
thev	yeah, edgy	03:16
thev	I want nor need this package	03:16
lupine_85	cat the script, find the error, fix the problem	03:16
dwidmann	thev: sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh	03:16
thev	that's the real kicker here	03:16
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iron	i did not get any thing	03:16
lupine_85	oh, and report a bug. why not?	03:16
dwidmann	!universe \| iron	03:17
ubotu	iron: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	03:17
thev	dwinmann - what does that do?	03:17
thev	I typed it but nothing appeared to happen :)	03:17
dwidmann	switches your default shell to bash ... some people have difficulty realizing that their scripts need to be posix compliant ...	03:17
zblach	i'm having an interesting problem with the power manager. whenever i finally load K, it detects my laptop switch as pressed, and blanks the screen	03:17
thev	I dunno what posix is :)	03:17
zblach	how do I force a recheck?	03:17
zblach	or better, fix this problem elegantly?	03:18
dwidmann	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/posix	03:18
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lupine_85	standards++ :)	03:19
thev	lupine_85 - you make the solution sound so simple. I'm still trying to decipher what script I need to cat	03:20
lupine_85	mm, it's not simple generally	03:20
lupine_85	dwidmann's solution - if it works - is better	03:21
lupine_85	the error should have the path & name of the script in it somewhere, though	03:21
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thev	oh, wait - last line "/usr/bin/dpkg" returned an error	03:21
lupine_85	no, that's not it :)	03:22
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lupine_85	don't cat that	03:22
thev	durn	03:22
bonbonthejon	anyone know of a way to split up a pdf in kubuntu	03:22
K-Ryan	Wow, regenerating font caches take forever!	03:22
dannybuntu	hello - firefox in kubuntu giving me bus error - what does that mean?	03:22
thev	subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 10	03:23
thev	maybe?	03:23
K-Ryan	woo	03:23
K-Ryan	Edgy installation done	03:23
K-Ryan	dwidmann what was I supposed to type after it finished?	03:23
dannybuntu	can anyone tell me why firefox is giving me bus error?	03:23
lupine_85	hmm. pdfjam has some of the functionality	03:24
K-Ryan	sorry dannybuntu, I'm not sure what that is	03:24
dwidmann	back	03:24
K-Ryan	I use Konqueror	03:24
dannybuntu	=[	03:24
dannybuntu	does konqi have google browser sync?	03:24
lupine_85	thev: it'll be in /var somewhere, it'll have the package name and 'postinst' in the path/filename also	03:24
K-Ryan	Yep	03:24
dannybuntu	it does?	03:25
K-Ryan	If you mean the little google search box, yes	03:25
lupine_85	aha!	03:25
dannybuntu	no - the one that synchronizes your bookmarks with other pcs	03:25
lupine_85	bonbonthejon: pdftk	03:25
thev	hrmmm... ok	03:25
K-Ryan	Hrmm, don't know	03:25
lupine_85	" - Burst a PDF document into single pages"	03:25
bonbonthejon	lupine_85: thanks, i just found it	03:25
lupine_85	:)	03:25
K-Ryan	dwidmann, install finished what was I supposed to type after?	03:25
lupine_85	apt-cache++, etc	03:26
dwidmann	k-ryan, I think I said "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"	03:26
K-Ryan	yeah, thats it	03:26
K-Ryan	i dont know what it's doing now, but it's doing something	03:27
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thev	result! I found the file.	03:28
thev	It jsut has the repository it used listed?	03:29
dwidmann	another week or two until we have kde 3.5.6 :)	03:29
dwidmann	k-ryan: that should be it ... should	03:29
K-Ryan	mmm	03:29
K-Ryan	more selecting and unpacking	03:30
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thev	lupine_85 - any hints on what I should be doing next?	03:30
K-Ryan	now some setting up	03:31
K-Ryan	y	03:31
K-Ryan	oops...	03:32
K-Ryan	okay, time to test out edgy	03:32
K-Ryan	restarting now	03:32
dwidmann	http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php	03:32
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lupine_85	thev: the dirty solution is to make line 2 == exit 0	03:33
endo602	how do i install an nvidia geforce 6600 gt card? with driver?	03:33
lupine_85	but see what it's doing and try to work out why it's failing	03:34
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K-Ryan	i got REALLY worried there...	03:36
K-Ryan	got some error about ntfs-fs 1.2 and i need 3.0	03:36
K-Ryan	but i seem to be working	03:36
dwidmann	so things are going alright now k-ryan?	03:37
K-Ryan	seems like it	03:37
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K-Ryan	except i have 32 updated packages availible	03:37
dwidmann	Well, then, congratulation :)	03:37
K-Ryan	and i already updated them twice o.O	03:37
dwidmann	update them?	03:37
dwidmann	k-ryan, yes, upgrading in ubuntu can be a PITA	03:38
K-Ryan	so its like upgrading from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5	03:38
K-Ryan	cant just go from 1 to 5?	03:38
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K-Ryan	or are they installed, and just being a PITA?	03:39
K-Ryan	oh now i know why	03:39
K-Ryan	i have to go through every one and click "request upgrade"!	03:39
endo602	can someone help me install nvidia drivers for gforce 660gt?	03:40
K-Ryan	!nvidia	03:40
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:40
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wolfwalker	Okay, I am now officially ticked	03:40
K-Ryan	What's up?	03:40
wolfwalker	I'm currently on my Windows computer	03:41
K-Ryan	Mhm	03:41
wolfwalker	I tried to access internet through my Kubuntu computer	03:41
wolfwalker	Wanted to download some programs, Adept is a marvel	03:41
wolfwalker	But it can't recognize the internet connection, apparently	03:41
wolfwalker	And my internet provider doesn't support Linux	03:41
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K-Ryan	How would they know you are running Linux? o.O	03:42
K-Ryan	Internet is internet right?	03:42
wolfwalker	I told them	03:42
wolfwalker	Apparently not	03:42
K-Ryan	Well why the hell not? Did they give an explanation?	03:42
wolfwalker	Nope. Just said they don't have any tech support for Linux	03:42
thev	luppnie_85 - the dirty solution didn't seem to work	03:42
K-Ryan	Hrmm	03:43
jimmy_	Is there a maximum File size on a FAT filesystem? I am trying to copy a 5.1GB file, and it always errors at 4GB	03:43
K-Ryan	wolfwalker did you change anything recently?	03:43
wolfwalker	I recall something about FAT having a 4 gig limit	03:43
firecrotc1	That would be the limit, jimmy_	03:43
wolfwalker	Or was that something else...........	03:43
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K-Ryan	5.1GB file? What is so big?	03:43
elyon	Hey guys, I can't remember... what's the name of the alternative to Cedega?	03:43
K-Ryan	Or is it a .tar.gz?	03:44
wolfwalker	And what in the world kind of file is 5.1 gig?	03:44
K-Ryan	lol	03:44
firecrotc1	DVD ISO?	03:44
jimmy_	it is an ISO	03:44
jimmy_	yep	03:44
dwidmann	jimmy: yes, for fat32, the max filesize is something like 4 gig, maybe less	03:44
K-Ryan	Of? =)	03:44
wolfwalker	A whopping big iso	03:44
firecrotc1	Knoppix DVD, of course!	03:44
wolfwalker	Try reformatting as ext3	03:44
jimmy_	usually they are around 7 or 8	03:44
dwidmann	5.1gig would fit on a dual layer disk ...	03:44
jimmy_	i am trying to transfer to an external HD, but i need it readable by windows as well	03:45
wolfwalker	Ah	03:45
wolfwalker	Bummer	03:45
jimmy_	right, but my Dual Laer drive is somewhere else	03:45
dwidmann	jimmy_: what about that one extension 2 driver for windows?	03:45
K-Ryan	Can you compress it and split it?	03:45
dwidmann	*extended 2	03:45
dwidmann	*ext2	03:45
jimmy_	tried compressing it, but it won't do it	03:45
K-Ryan	Can't compress and split into pieces?	03:46
firecrotc1	!ext2fs	03:46
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:46
jimmy_	I need the HD to be read by all windows boxes	03:46
firecrotc1	Hrm, I think NTFS has support for files that large	03:46
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wolfwalker	So how do I get online with my Kubuntu computer?	03:47
jimmy_	but Linux does not have reliable support for NTFS right?	03:47
wolfwalker	No, at this time Linux can read from but not write to NTFS	03:47
K-Ryan	support? yes. reliable? no	03:47
dwidmann	jimmy_, I think zip can split files	03:47
K-Ryan	.zip can't	03:47
K-Ryan	.rar can	03:47
firecrotc1	I've never had a problem writing to NTFS partitions	03:47
dwidmann	Yes, .zip can	03:47
dwidmann	I'm looking at it right now, the man p[age doesn't lie :)	03:47
dwidmann	zipsplit, hmm, what else could it do?	03:48
jimmy_	alright, what is the command for .rar or .zip to compress with seperate files	03:48
K-Ryan	Hmm, well I know Winzip didn't do it	03:49
K-Ryan	And neither did Winrar	03:49
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jimmy_	I know .rar does on windows, at least it did a year ago	03:49
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K-Ryan	Yeah, .rar does	03:49
dwidmann	I've done it with winrar before also, years ago	03:49
K-Ryan	You can try Winrar	03:49
jimmy_	can tar break up files	03:49
wolfwalker	So am I doomed to be spending hours installing dependencies for my music programs?	03:49
firecrotc1	I'm having trouble finding a program that will work with my iPod video that will actually let me transfer videos	03:49
wolfwalker	Is there no hope for my Kubuntu computer to get on the 'net?	03:49
K-Ryan	!blast	03:50
ubotu	blast: Vent your frustration with programs by blowing holes in them. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-13.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 76 kB	03:50
firecrotc1	!ipod	03:50
ubotu	For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod	03:50
K-Ryan	Hey guys, this game "blast" won't show up in my games thing	03:50
firecrotc1	!botsnack	03:50
ubotu	Yum!	03:50
Daisuke_Ido	meh :\	03:50
elyon	wolfwalker: Uhm... you're already online... how do you think you'd be talking to us?	03:50
K-Ryan	Or anywhere else, no why?	03:50
K-Ryan	elyon, he's on Windows	03:50
elyon	wolfwalker: Or are you not on that machine? lol	03:50
elyon	gotcha	03:50
Daisuke_Ido	all i want is to get sanse playlister working under wine	03:50
wolfwalker	I'm online on my M$ computer	03:50
elyon	K-Ryan: Caught that right after I said it lol	03:50
K-Ryan	Righto =P	03:51
Daisuke_Ido	but no, it's having issues registering .ocx libraries	03:51
K-Ryan	WOW, I said "no why"	03:51
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K-Ryan	***Know why?***	03:51
Daisuke_Ido	no, why?	03:51
dwidmann	zip filename.iso && zipsplit -n filesizeinbytes filename.iso.zip	03:51
Daisuke_Ido	:D	03:51
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jimmy_	tar also seems to have a multivolume option, would that work better?	03:52
sampan	wolfwalker your isp has no way of knowing what OS is connecting to their internet connection. you CAN get on the net with your Kubuntu, but it all depends on how you connect to your ISP (pppoe? dialup? through a router?)	03:52
dwidmann	daisuke_ido, worst case scenario you could use vmware, if you have a windoze license laying around not being used	03:53
sampan	wireless? etc., etc.	03:53
wolfwalker	Um.......... just a DSL modem	03:53
jimmy_	problem with that command, dwidman, is that for some reason, zip can't compress it in the first place as a whole	03:53
Daisuke_Ido	which i actually do	03:53
wolfwalker	With ethernet cable from the modem to the computer	03:53
firecrotc1	sampan, actually an ISP probably can determine what OS you're using	03:53
K-Ryan	Why does everyone say "Windoze" or some other strange spelling of it?	03:53
wolfwalker	Windoze is a Linux distro	03:54
K-Ryan	Oh...	03:54
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: It's a term of derision	03:54
dwidmann	out of hate and loathing of microshaft?	03:54
wolfwalker	It is meant to imitate as closely as possible Windows	03:54
DaSkreech	like Micro$oft	03:54
sampan	firecrotc1 :X would be pretty intrusive if they did ... in any case, i suspect he just needs to run pppoeconf to set up kubuntu to connect through his dsl modem	03:54
K-Ryan	Those, what dwidmann and DaSkreech said	03:54
wolfwalker	run what?	03:54
K-Ryan	I don't get it	03:54
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: I could get philosphical but basically we mock it as much as possible	03:55
wolfwalker	lol	03:55
dwidmann	yes, what DaSkreech said	03:55
wolfwalker	At least DaSkreech is honest	03:55
wolfwalker	And realistic	03:55
DaSkreech	very Primary school playground type behaviour	03:55
K-Ryan	misspelling it is mockery?	03:55
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wolfwalker	Yea, verily	03:55
sampan	wolfwalker open up a terminal (konsole) and run pppoeconf (might have to do it with sudo -- can't remember, been a while since i did it) ... it's a text config utility that should let you set up your kubuntu to connect via pppoe (you'll need to know your login/pw for your isp)	03:55
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: Ever went to a primary/prep school?	03:55
K-Ryan	Sounds more like trying not to infringe some kind of copyright	03:55
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firecrotc1	!gtkpod	03:56
wolfwalker	lol	03:56
ubotu	gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB	03:56
firecrotc1	!botsnack	03:56
ubotu	Yum!	03:56
wolfwalker	Two points for K-Ryan	03:56
K-Ryan	=P	03:56
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: Ever seen some child no one liked and they took his name and twisted some slight way just so they could mock him/her	03:56
dwidmann	micro$oft came into use because microsoft cares for little else than their own wallet. microshaft came about when they gave ibm the shaft way back when	03:56
DaSkreech	That's us except we are between 25-90 years old	03:56
wolfwalker	Actually, I see nothing wrong with Windows. It's a good os as far as it goes	03:56
wolfwalker	It just doesn't go far enough in security	03:56
K-Ryan	Yes, but I mean	03:56
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firecrotc1	Will gtkpod mess up the stuff that is already on my iPod?	03:56
K-Ryan	Eh	03:57
K-Ryan	Oh well...	03:57
wolfwalker	firecrotc1, if you use your iPod as your primary music storage device, you're screwed anyway	03:57
wolfwalker	It will eventually go down	03:57
dwidmann	wolfwalker, in its (poor) attempt to be user friendly, windows kills any attempts that it makes at actually being secure :\	03:57
jimmy_	In tar, does the multi-volume option mean it breaks up the compressed file into pieces?	03:57
DaSkreech	Giving something a proper name gives it respect. We don't respect Windoze for hte most part	03:57
firecrotc1	Well, right now, I do have most of my music just on my iPod... I need to find a way to get it off my ipod onto my external hard drive :)	03:58
wolfwalker	\|firecrotc1:\| I keep my music collection as FLAC files (lossless) on my computer, with DVD backups.	03:58
dwidmann	DaSkreech was a bit off though, I'm only 20 ;)	03:58
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wolfwalker	firecrotc1, you're sunk. iJunk.......... er.......... iTunes and iPod encrypt the music when you transfer them. If your iPod ever goes down, your music is gone with the wind.	03:59
firecrotc1	wolfwalker: I'd do the DVD backup option, but I don't have a DVD burner	03:59
DaSkreech	dwidmann: Oh you are fully allowed to be an ass then	03:59
dwidmann	hehehe	03:59
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dwidmann	you'd better believe it	03:59
K-Ryan	Does 15 almost 16 count for anything?	04:00
wolfwalker	So, go to System, Konsole Terminal Program, and run pppoeconf?	04:00
firecrotc1	So about getting the music off of my iPod... I know there are ways, but all I've seen are Winblows programs	04:00
K-Ryan	Dare I ask why Edgy comes with a "Tea Time" package...	04:00
wolfwalker	Oh there are ways of breaking the encryption	04:00
wolfwalker	But none legal	04:00
dwidmann	k-ryan: edgy doesn't, kdetoys does.	04:00
K-Ryan	Oh...	04:00
firecrotc1	wolfwalker, I don't think they're encrypted, per-se	04:01
sampan	wolfwalker that's what i used to do (with dapper) to get my kubuntu online (now my router handles the login)	04:01
wolfwalker	Easiest way is to play it and record off the soundcard with Audacity or another music program	04:01
wolfwalker	Oh, they're NOT encrypted?	04:01
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: What tea time?	04:01
wolfwalker	How in the world did you get iJunk to play them without encrypting them?	04:01
K-Ryan	I just installed a bunch of toys, and none of them show...	04:01
K-Ryan	!kteatime	04:01
ubotu	kteatime: KDE utility for making a fine cup of tea. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 388 kB	04:01
dwidmann	DaSkreech: the teatime program in the kdetoys package	04:01
K-Ryan	That DaSkreech	04:02
firecrotc1	wolfwalker, I think you're confusing "encryption" with something else... maybe encoding?	04:02
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: doesn't come with it. You installed toys	04:02
wolfwalker	Nope. But if your iPod did not encrypt the files, that's great!	04:02
K-Ryan	Yes I realize that	04:02
wolfwalker	The acid test will be............. will the files play in your average music player program? Or will they only play in iJunk?	04:03
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: sorry :-)	04:03
dwidmann	breaking encryption, if it's a good algorithm, would prove to be most difficult to break. The easiest way to break said encryption would be to break somebodies nose and get the password :O	04:03
K-Ryan	It's okay =P	04:03
firecrotc1	They play in any media player, wolfwalker.	04:03
K-Ryan	wait wait wait, wolfwalker	04:03
wolfwalker	Then they're not encrypted	04:03
wolfwalker	Congratulations	04:04
firecrotc1	It's just that they are stored with weird file names	04:04
K-Ryan	The itunes thing for Linux is called ijunk?	04:04
K-Ryan	AHAHAH!	04:04
wolfwalker	No, I just don't have much respect for iTunes	04:04
wolfwalker	Or iPod	04:04
firecrotc1	K-Ryan, he used iJunk to mean that iTunes is junk	04:04
firecrotc1	which it is	04:04
wolfwalker	I'd recommend a Creative player	04:04
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K-Ryan	Oh, I thought that was like a Linux program thing...	04:04
wolfwalker	Or a Toshiba Gigabeat, although they encrypt files too	04:04
phobiac	It's running rockbox though, does that redeem me?	04:05
sampan	yeah i hate iTunes -- like the iPod itself, but iTunes is just a PITA ... almost enough to make me install rockbox	04:05
firecrotc1	I figure the best thing to do would be to first somehow get all of my music off of my iPod and onto my external HDD	04:05
DaSkreech	K-Ryan: You could make one	04:05
wolfwalker	Minus three points for having an iJunk, plus five for having the native intelligence to use something besides iTunes.	04:05
wolfwalker	So, yeah	04:05
wolfwalker	You come out with a +2	04:06
K-Ryan	Me?	04:06
K-Ryan	I don't think so	04:06
lovloss	I have just discovered the glorry of Koffice	04:06
lovloss	i prefer it to openoffice :D	04:06
wolfwalker	No, phobiac	04:06
jimmy_	amarok has pretty decent ipod support.	04:06
firecrotc1	I'm generally too lazy/don't care enough about my music collection to actually get it done	04:06
sampan	wolfwalker the ipod was a gift -- can't deduct any points ... can ADD points for being smart enough to ACCEPT a gift ;P	04:06
wolfwalker	Not you sampan	04:06
sampan	oh	04:06
wolfwalker	phobiac	04:06
phobiac	My ipod was a gift too :(	04:06
sampan	phobiac how do you like rockbox?	04:06
phobiac	It's awesome	04:07
wolfwalker	And if the ipod was a gift, that negates the minus 3	04:07
DaSkreech	lovloss: wonderful :)	04:07
sampan	how was the install?	04:07
phobiac	Woo	04:07
phobiac	The install was pretty easy for me	04:07
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lovloss	Does anyone here know anything about CMS's and web templates? #html is full of l33ts if anyone	04:07
firecrotc1	Does rockbox kill the music that you have on the iPod already?	04:07
wolfwalker	So +8 for phobiac for getting it as a gift AND being intelligent enough to use rockbox	04:07
lovloss	>.<	04:07
jimmy_	sure, lovloss	04:07
sampan	lol wolfwalker	04:07
phobiac	Although I did it on a windows computer...which I'm assuming is going to deduct some points.	04:07
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phobiac	firecrotch: No	04:08
wolfwalker	ANyway, while I'm on this Windows XP computer and HAVE internet and can be here..............	04:08
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wolfwalker	What all do I need to know about running pppoeconf?	04:08
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lovloss	jimmy_: Because i want to be able to change a template and automatically update all the sites using it. That way i can change parts of the page seperately	04:08
firecrotc1	phobiac, is it a video iPod that you put it on?	04:08
phobiac	firecrotc: Nano	04:08
sampan	wolfwalker pppoeconf was pretty self-explanatory when i used it -- you'll just need to know your actual login name and password for the login with your ISP	04:08
phobiac	The older nano's	04:09
shinigami	hi i just installed dapper 6.06.. amarok doesn't play my mp3 even after apt-get libxine-extracodecs .. anyone can help?	04:09
firecrotc1	Close enough to the video :)	04:09
wolfwalker	No, phobiac, no points deducted for using a Windows computer. We all have to use one sometimes.	04:09
jimmy_	lovloss: well, are you using any sort of software, such as Dreamweaver? Or have spport for anything such as PHP?	04:09
phobiac	Woo	04:09
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wolfwalker	shinigami, convert to ogg	04:09
firecrotc1	wolfwalker: so true. I hate the fact that I have to use Windows for one of my classes	04:09
wolfwalker	It's better anyway	04:09
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endo602	!nvidia	04:09
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	04:09
DaSkreech	shinigami: What are you using to play it?	04:09
wolfwalker	Or musepack, it's peerless for lossy compression at 128kbps or above	04:09
lovloss	jimmy_: Well, right now im using the program NVU. Im in linux, so i dont really have dreamweaver. But i do have Aptana and Quanta plus... i just dislike them	04:10
lovloss	jimmy_: NVU is almost a text editor. very minor gui assistance	04:10
DaSkreech	lovloss: NVU is soooo not CMS	04:10
shinigami	ogg?	04:10
wolfwalker	ogg vorbis	04:10
jimmy_	lovloss; hmm, I think NVU has support for templates	04:10
firecrotc1	Speaking of which... does anyone know of a linux IDE for VB.NET?	04:10
wolfwalker	Like mp3, only free and better	04:10
DaSkreech	shinigami: What are you using to play it?	04:10
lovloss	NVU does support templates	04:10
shinigami	can i apt-get it? i'm using amarok	04:10
Croupier	hey guys i was looking for a rar password recovery for dapper but im not very experienced	04:10
lovloss	BUT when you change the template, the other pages dont change	04:10
DaSkreech	lovloss: It's unmainteined and deprecated so.....	04:10
Croupier	can you suggest any sites apart from google	04:10
Croupier	tried that already	04:11
wolfwalker	shinigami, do you know anything about converting audio formats?	04:11
DaSkreech	wolfwalker: Please stop :)	04:11
DaSkreech	shinigami: talk to me. What are you using to play it?	04:11
wolfwalker	DaSkreech, he's using Amarok he says	04:11
DaSkreech	ok	04:11
lovloss	Well, what should i do? I need to set up this page so that it will have a static menu using templates. i have the template made.	04:11
shinigami	no not interested i just want to play mp3s using amarok	04:11
wolfwalker	He said that first thing	04:11
jimmy_	Have you looked into a database driven site? using PHP or gasp ASP.net?	04:11
lovloss	no content yet.	04:11
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DaSkreech	shinigami: What have you tried so far?	04:11
DaSkreech	Or Plone?	04:11
lovloss	See ive never used php... im really new	04:11
Croupier	i found crark but its not really working , anything of the kind ? anywhere i need to look at thank you	04:12
phobiac	shinigami: Did you install the files for mp3 support?	04:12
DaSkreech	lovloss: What are you trying to accomplish	04:12
shinigami	just amarok? the default player?	04:12
dwidmann	quanta+ is really quite nice ... integrated khtml kpart for previews :)	04:12
jimmy_	I used to use Dreamweaver all the time, and wine supports dreamweaver...	04:12
lovloss	DaSkreech: Menu on the left side, content to its right, banner across the top. A page for a band.	04:12
shinigami	i apt-get install libxine-extracodecs already	04:12
jimmy_	The template features are excellent	04:12
DaSkreech	shinigami: Did you add the multiverse?	04:12
wolfwalker	amarok runs off the library encoder files. If you don't have mp3 in the main library files, even amarok won't do it.	04:12
ericj2190	does anyone know why i get "permission denied" when i try to access any samba shared file with spaces in the filename?	04:12
lovloss	i dont use microsoft stuff if i can help it	04:12
DaSkreech	lovloss: We like you :)	04:13
shinigami	multiverse?	04:13
DaSkreech	lovloss: Do you do Web page stuff>	04:13
DaSkreech	shinigami: Ah you didn't add multivers?	04:13
jimmy_	Dreamweaver is not Microsoft, its adobe	04:13
lovloss	DaSkreech: I made this. http://www.vasilisagames.com	04:13
shinigami	yes i didn't..because i didn't know what's that..haha	04:13
lovloss	Adobe, from what i understand, is under MS	04:13
DaSkreech	shinigami: How did you apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ?	04:13
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DaSkreech	shinigami: Ok Want help with that ?	04:14
shinigami	oh u mean souces.list ?	04:14
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DaSkreech	shinigami: yes	04:14
jimmy_	nope, they origianally were a MAC only company actually	04:14
lovloss	really... perhaps i heard from the wrong source then	04:14
shinigami	yea i did add the multiverses i guess	04:14
DaSkreech	lovloss: Ha ha :) That's really biased :-)	04:14
DaSkreech	shinigami: can You do something for me?	04:14
DaSkreech	shinigami: do you know pastebin?	04:15
shinigami	no	04:15
lovloss	Im a biased person. Anyway i prefer to use open source regardless	04:15
DaSkreech	!paste \| shinigami	04:15
ubotu	shinigami: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	04:15
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DaSkreech	lovloss: No problems. Just you come off as hostile on the front page of the site :)	04:15
shinigami	!paste	04:15
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	04:15
lovloss	ohh you mean my site	04:15
DaSkreech	Yeah	04:15
jimmy_	Nvu does have template support	04:15
DaSkreech	shinigami: Go to that site and paste the contents of your sources.list	04:16
DaSkreech	shinigami: if you need help just say my name	04:16
php-freak	hey guys	04:16
DaSkreech	!tab \|shin	04:16
ubotu	shin: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.	04:16
lovloss	haha i meant to be hostile... to MS	04:16
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dwidmann	jimmy_: what doesn't ... well, unless we're counting vim and kate ;)	04:16
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php-freak	my website look find in every other browser accept for konquer why is this?	04:16
DaSkreech	!tab \| shinigami	04:16
ubotu	shinigami: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.	04:16
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DaSkreech	php-freak: Might want to ask in #kde	04:16
lovloss	Now hold on, NVU has templates, BUT, you cant update the pages when you change templates in it	04:16
ericj2190	hola jontec	04:17
lovloss	Did someone say quanta+ can?	04:17
WiglyWorm	Hey, quick questoin... fact checking, really...	04:17
dwidmann	php-freak, perhaps a small design flaw, either that or a small browser flaw.	04:17
jimmy_	ah ok, i have never used Nvu templates, i guess they were designed bad	04:17
shinigami	its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1913/	04:17
shinigami	!tab	04:17
ubotu	You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.	04:17
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shinigami	!tab shinigami	04:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about tab shinigami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	04:17
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lovloss	its not the templates. its the fact that the program has no function for automatically updating them	04:17
lovloss	which is like, such a simplething to do.	04:17
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jimmy_	lol, I understand	04:18
DaSkreech	shinigami: Alright that looks good	04:18
DaSkreech	shinigami: close amarok	04:18
shinigami	done	04:18
WiglyWorm	I keep getting an error when I try to run a program I installed.. the error is "error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"...	04:18
php-freak	dwidmann: Yea well it looks fine in other browsers accept konquer, which granted I don't know anyone that uses konquer	04:18
php-freak	not that many people anyways	04:18
DaSkreech	shinigami: type in sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs	04:18
lovloss	my problem with quanta plus is that if you ever edit anything in the gui interface, it messes up	04:18
phobiac	WiglWorm: You might need that package	04:18
dwidmann	php-freak: linkage?	04:19
shinigami	updating.. takes awhile	04:19
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DaSkreech	php-freak: #kde would give you a much better answer than here	04:19
shinigami	i did apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get dist-upgrade -y already	04:19
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DaSkreech	shinigami: Ahh that's how you got from dapper to edgy?	04:19
WiglyWorm	I found some random website (I don't know if it's to be trusted or not), and it says the solution is to type "ln -s libSDL-1.1.so.0 libSDL-1.2.so.0" what exactly does this command even do?	04:19
lampar	what are you talking about?	04:19
WiglyWorm	Am I going to break something?	04:19
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shinigami	OH I GET IT	04:20
shinigami	i'm using dapper	04:20
WiglyWorm	Phobiac: I tried downloading a couple packages with Adept.. it didn't seem to do too much for me.	04:20
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shinigami	i changed the sources to edgy	04:20
dwidmann	I know a fair bit about ripping the hairs out of m-- I mean, designing web pages to make them show up right in a variety of browsers	04:20
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: It makes a link between SDL 1.1 and SDL 1.2. If the program doesn't NEED a call from SDL1.2 it will work	04:20
wolfwalker	No luck	04:20
DaSkreech	shinigami: Yeah I noticed that	04:20
shinigami	hah!!! ok i changing to old souces.list	04:20
sampan	wolfwalker still no joy on connecting?	04:21
wolfwalker	When I tried to run pppoeconf, it said "please become root before running pppoeconf!"	04:21
nik	sup all	04:21
DaSkreech	shinigami: Wait wait	04:21
wolfwalker	Become root?	04:21
jimmy_	so, lovloss, let me get this straight, you want to have a menu, header, footer, etc. that stay the same, and content that changes	04:21
shinigami	but i done that to install sun-java5-jre	04:21
sampan	wolfwalker then run it with "sudo" ... sudo pppoeconf :)	04:21
lampar	wygliyworm... what you did with that command is to create a symbolic	04:21
DaSkreech	shinigami: What do you see in the file /etc/issue ?	04:21
wolfwalker	I did that too	04:21
nik	sudo pppoeconf	04:21
wolfwalker	It said no such command	04:21
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shinigami	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1913/	04:21
shinigami	ops	04:21
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shinigami	Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l	04:21
DaSkreech	wolfwalker: which sudo	04:21
DaSkreech	shinigami: Ah. umm ok	04:21
wolfwalker	I ran sudo pppoeconf	04:22
lampar	type sudo pppoeconf	04:22
DaSkreech	shinigami: then use the sources.list with dapper	04:22
shinigami	changing my sources back....	04:22
shinigami	btw, i changed the soucres to install sun-java5-jre ...	04:22
shinigami	is there a better way to install sun-java5 with dapper?	04:22
DaSkreech	!java	04:22
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository	04:22
DaSkreech	That should tell you	04:22
dwidmann	Nothing easier than installing that package, shinigami	04:22
wolfwalker	I'm about to give up and just install all the dependencies manually	04:23
wolfwalker	As daunting as such a task seems	04:23
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freshburn	so i got my wireless working with ndiswrapper (hp pavilion laptop kubuntu edgy)	04:23
shinigami	i noticed dapper doesn't have this package sun-java5-jre	04:23
shinigami	oh	04:23
freshburn	but i cant get my stupid modem to work still	04:23
shinigami	!Multiverse	04:23
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	04:23
WiglyWorm	Well... grumblecakes.	04:23
DaSkreech	I think the Java page tells you how to install	04:23
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wolfwalker	!pppoe	04:23
sampan	wolfwalker that's very odd ... pppoeconf was there on dapper and it's here on my fresh edgy too. it should be there	04:23
ubotu	Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE	04:23
WiglyWorm	I tried that command I posted earlier, and I have the same error.	04:23
wolfwalker	Yeah, I tried pppoeconf	04:24
wolfwalker	It said to become root first	04:24
shinigami	java page doesn't give rpm for debian i think	04:24
shinigami	!Java	04:24
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: What are you trying to run?	04:24
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository	04:24
wolfwalker	And I tried sudo pppoeconf	04:24
wolfwalker	No such command, apparently	04:24
WiglyWorm	Unreal Tournament 2004	04:24
DaSkreech	There is no rpm for debian	04:24
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Ah No apt-get for you :)	04:24
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dwidmann	alien?	04:24
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: where do you hit the problem?	04:24
sampan	wolfwalker did you set up a root account? by default there is none and you should just use "sudo" to temporarily have root powers	04:24
DaSkreech	or sudo -i	04:25
WiglyWorm	The whole story is when I run the shell script that the installer put on my desktop, I get "Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file"	04:25
dwidmann	shinigami, first enable multiverse, then run "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre". Done.	04:25
jimmy_	or sudo bash	04:25
firecrotc1	Okay, trying to install rockbox on my iPod, and the ipodpatcher gives me an error about the drive not being an iPod	04:25
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WiglyWorm	I was told to try "/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin --ini=/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004.ini -nohomedir"	04:25
wolfwalker	Oh well, here I go again	04:25
phobiac	firecrotc: Help with rockbox should really go to the #rockbox channel	04:26
WiglyWorm	And when I do that latter command, the splash screen comes up, then I crash to that error message.. cannot open shared object file.	04:26
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DaSkreech	dwidmann: This is on dapper	04:26
lampar	wolfwalker: try this: "sudo passwd root"	04:26
freshburn	has anyone dealt with an internal laptop modem with subsystem chip id 103c:3084	04:26
dwidmann	DaSkreech, should make no difference.	04:26
dwidmann	That's how I did it on dapper.	04:26
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DaSkreech	oh.. ok	04:26
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dwidmann	It's the same on Edgy, however, with feisty it's the sun-java6-jre package	04:27
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Give me the error again?	04:27
jimmy_	does "tar -c -M --tape-length=2147483648 --file=/media/usbdisk/movie1.tar Movie.iso" look right to split dvd.iso into 2GB chunks?	04:27
WiglyWorm	There's 2.. depending on which command I try.	04:27
DaSkreech	ok	04:27
DaSkreech	shinigami: how you going?	04:28
dwidmann	jimmy_: I don't know, one way to find out	04:28
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jimmy_	dwidman: tried it and got a file size limit	04:28
WiglyWorm	Just running the shell script that the installer made on my desktop gets me "an't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file"	04:28
WiglyWorm	Doing "/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin --ini=/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004.ini -nohomedir"	04:28
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WiglyWorm	Gets me "/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"	04:29
shinigami	hi	04:29
shinigami	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1917/ my new sources	04:29
shinigami	doing updates now	04:29
WiglyWorm	Of course, I can't even seem to figure out how to get FireFox to run, I'm not entirely sure why I think I should be able to get games to work as well. T_T	04:30
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: what does the shell script on your desktop point to?	04:30
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: I seem to recall they had something like this on teh UT forums though	04:30
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steveire	Hi. I've just installed kde-core on an otherwise command line ubuntu system (doing a ground up install). The only issue I have is that thumbnails are not created in konqueror for pdf, ps, dvi files. Is there anything I can do to get that feature back? I have kpdf of course.	04:31
WiglyWorm	the shell script points to {ut2004_DATA_PATH}/ut2004-bin.	04:31
WiglyWorm	hmm I haven't found anything on the forums.. I suppose I can go check again.	04:31
DaSkreech	What does ut2004_DATA_PATH resolve to?	04:33
shinigami	ok another question..i have a laptop acer 5562.. after installing kubuntu, cat /proc/cpuinfo shows only one cpu (it is a dual core)	04:33
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WiglyWorm	Um.. I imagine the long string I typed...	04:33
shinigami	the uname -r shows 2.6.15-27-386..i think i should get the smt version or something	04:33
DaSkreech	shinigami: You will have to change the sources.list	04:33
freshburn	dd the ut2004-bin into the dir with the ini file it wants to see	04:33
freshburn	?	04:33
WiglyWorm	dd?	04:34
shinigami	change into what?	04:34
DaSkreech	shinigami: deb http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe should have the word multiverse at the end	04:34
lampar	shinigami: I have the same laptop, bu t	04:34
lampar	it's a 3690 series!	04:34
freshburn	copy it	04:34
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regeya	ok, so, everytime I start up kde, there's a .kde/share/config/gtkrc-qtc written with a style "QtCMnuFix"	04:35
regeya	written every time, and when that's there, Firefox won't start. What's doing that, and how do I prevent that?	04:35
regeya	Humorous answers of 'use konqueror' will be directed to the nearest Safari fanboy site	04:36
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shinigami	lampar: urs is a duel core?	04:37
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shinigami	DaSkreech: ok added multiverse.. updating	04:37
isaac_	WEEEEE	04:37
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wolfwalker	I am HERE!!!	04:37
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wolfwalker	Thanks to all who helped me	04:37
DaSkreech	!firefox	04:37
ubotu	firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins	04:37
wolfwalker	For the record, firefox rocks my socks	04:37
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regeya	DaSkreech: HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR	04:38
regeya	ok, I'll try that again...	04:38
regeya	ok, so, everytime I start up kde, there's a .kde/share/config/gtkrc-qtc written with a style "QtCMnuFix"	04:38
regeya	written every time, and when that's there, Firefox won't start. What's doing that, and how do I prevent that?	04:38
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phobiac	lol	04:38
shinigami	GREAT IT WORKED!!!!	04:38
shinigami	hee	04:38
shinigami	ok	04:39
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DaSkreech	shinigami: mp3 works now?	04:39
shinigami	after changing back to dapper sources.list, i apt-get remove libxine-extracodes and install again	04:39
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shinigami	it worked now	04:39
regeya	I love some of the answers I get when I google for it: "Why would you use Firefox anyway?"	04:39
jimmy_	so "tar -c -M /media/usbdisk/movie1.tar movie.iso" freaked out my console, and "tar -c -M --tape-length=2147483648 --file=/media/usbdisk/havoc1.tar Havoc.iso" doesn't work correctly. Any ideas on tar-ing a multi volume archive?	04:39
regeya	my answer: "If choice is bad, why aren't we talking about Windows?"	04:39
shinigami	thx	04:40
sampan	wolfwalker glad you got it figured out! :)	04:40
phobiac	regeya: lol	04:40
wolfwalker	Okay, so how do I access these program repositories now that my Kubuntu komputer is konnected?	04:40
DaSkreech	shinigami: Sure	04:40
wolfwalker	I tried to open Adept,and it shut back down	04:40
katabatic	try again maybe	04:40
phobiac	regeya: Is there anything in your autostart folder that could be causing the problem?	04:40
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katabatic	Adept should be it	04:41
shinigami	i using a laptop sony vaio now	04:41
shinigami	tail /var/log/messages show Jan 17 10:15:24 localhost kernel: [17180811.900000] Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness	04:41
wolfwalker	Great	04:41
wolfwalker	So where do I find Audacity?	04:41
regeya	nah, phobiac, the only thing there is ivman (long story, nevermind)	04:41
jimmy_	wolfwalker: sudo apt-get install audacity	04:42
wolfwalker	Adept finally came up, now it says it's never heard of Audacity	04:42
shinigami	and theres a screen poping out and disappear saying "adjusting lcd brightness"	04:42
wolfwalker	Where do I type that jimmy?	04:42
jimmy_	or try automatix	04:42
jimmy_	http://www.getautomatix.com	04:42
phobiac	We don't recommend automatix	04:42
lampar	what's automatix?	04:42
phobiac	!automatix	04:42
ubotu	automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe	04:42
regeya	oh hay phobiac I just thought of it, and I think I'll just sob quietly now. it's QtCurve causing that. dang.	04:42
phobiac	regeya: Something I'll assume you need? :/	04:43
jimmy_	I personally use automatix all the time, but as they say, its not supported	04:43
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phobiac	!worksforme	04:43
ubotu	Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.	04:43
wolfwalker	lol	04:43
wolfwalker	True that	04:43
=== phobiac feels like a bit of a jerk now
regeya	weird tho since thta works fine under xfce and gnome yet not under kde. :-/	04:43
wolfwalker	So where do I type that sudo apt-get stuff?	04:43
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katabatic	Menu > System > Konsole	04:44
jimmy_	in the console, utilities->Konsole	04:44
phobiac	regeya: You could try asking in #KDE to see if other's have had the problem and know a fix	04:44
lampar	hey, which program could I use to mix audio, in real time, you understand? like a DJ ;)	04:44
regeya	phobiac: now tha tI realized what it is, I'm googling again...	04:45
phobiac	regeya: Alright	04:45
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wolfwalker	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	04:45
wolfwalker	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	04:45
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wolfwalker	That's what I got	04:45
phobiac	wolfwalker: Have adept running?	04:45
wolfwalker	Well that's what everyone told me to try first	04:45
phobiac	Or apt-get in a konsole running?	04:46
wolfwalker	And I just never took it down, I guess	04:46
jimmy_	ya, if adept is not running, you have some other problems that should probably be solved before installing audacity	04:46
wolfwalker	sigh	04:46
wolfwalker	Reading package lists... Done	04:46
wolfwalker	Building dependency tree	04:46
wolfwalker	Reading state information... Done	04:46
wolfwalker	E: Couldn't find package audacity	04:46
DaSkreech	!audacity	04:46
ubotu	audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB	04:46
wolfwalker	So................. now what?	04:46
sampan	wolfwalker you just need to enable the universe multiverse repositories	04:46
DaSkreech	wolfwalker: add universe	04:46
sampan	!repositories	04:47
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	04:47
wolfwalker	Okay, where?	04:47
jimmy_	phobia: does he have to enable universe repositories?	04:47
phobiac	wolfwalker: You repositories are enabled right?	04:47
wolfwalker	Where do I go and what do I input to enable universe multiverse repositories?	04:47
wolfwalker	I guess they aren't	04:48
jmichaelx	i have just been trying for the first time tonight to burn audio CDs with K3b, but each time i try, i wind up getting a write errorat about 1/2 to 3/4 the way through.... has anyone else experienced this? is there a way to fix this?	04:48
phobiac	wolfwalker: Close adept	04:48
wolfwalker	Been closed	04:48
phobiac	wolfwalker: open a konsole and type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list	04:48
wolfwalker	k3b has een working for me	04:48
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phobiac	the sources.list file should open	04:49
wolfwalker	Okay.............. now what?	04:49
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phobiac	Now uncomment anything begining with deb	04:49
wolfwalker	Now what?	04:49
phobiac	Then save the file	04:49
wolfwalker	In the Kate window that just popped up?	04:50
jmichaelx	hmmm..... maybe it is just my system. i can't imagine what would be wrong. everything works fine in windows.... and i have burned several ISO's using gnomebaker just fine, as well	04:50
phobiac	Yes	04:50
phobiac	Then do sudo apt-get update	04:50
wolfwalker	Uncomment?	04:50
phobiac	Yes, uncomment the lines begining with deb	04:50
wolfwalker	What is uncomment?	04:50
wolfwalker	Delete?	04:50
phobiac	No	04:50
phobiac	Remove the # from the beging	04:50
wolfwalker	Ahhh	04:50
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phobiac	begining*	04:51
WiglyWorm	I don't suppose there's a 64bit version of YAHOO IM for linux... you know, so I can talk to my friends while I beat my head against brick walls here?	04:51
phobiac	Then save	04:51
phobiac	And do sudo apt-get update	04:51
phobiac	Then try to do sudo apt-get install audacity	04:51
jmichaelx	WiglyWorm: i would forget yahoo IM and use gaim or gyachi	04:51
WiglyWorm	That was going to be my next question. :)	04:51
phobiac	WiglyWorm: You're running kubuntu right?	04:52
jmichaelx	yeah... gaim and kopete are both good.... if you need audio and webcam, you will have to go for gyachi	04:52
WiglyWorm	Ah.. and that leads me back to this question...	04:52
phobiac	Darn, jmichaelx beat me to my kopete reccomendation	04:52
jmichaelx	sorry lol	04:53
phobiac	No prob :P	04:53
WiglyWorm	What am I supposed to download? "Fedora Core", "Red Hat", "Mandrake", etc...	04:53
jmichaelx	you have tp pay for red hat	04:53
wolfwalker	Okay, it says it's connecting to something or other	04:53
jmichaelx	to*	04:53
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jmichaelx	WiglyWorm: i would recommend kubuntu or mandriva	04:54
wolfwalker	LAND O' GOSHEN!!!	04:54
WiglyWorm	well, I'm using Kubuntu, I'm not going to pay for red hat linux, I'm just not sure what version I'm supposed to be downloading	04:54
WiglyWorm	(version of GAIM, that is)	04:54
jmichaelx	ohhhh	04:54
wolfwalker	It's reading a whole bunch of stuff now	04:54
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jmichaelx	WiglyWorm: you need to get the package from the rops	04:54
jmichaelx	repos*	04:54
DaSkreech	phobiac: don'y sudo graphical apps	04:54
wolfwalker	So how long should this take?	04:54
phobiac	DaSkreech: I never said to sudo a graphical app...	04:55
WiglyWorm	You guys are hurting my head.	04:55
jmichaelx	WiglyWorm: you need to enable all of your repositories, either with adept or with the command line, and just 'sudo apt-get install gaim'	04:55
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freshburn	i had ALOT of problems when i uncommented the backport repos i wouldnt do it unless you have to	04:55
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jmichaelx	well, do a 'sudo apt-get update' first	04:56
DaSkreech	<phobiac> wolfwalker: open a konsole and type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list	04:56
freshburn	daskreech i agree use KDESU kate isntead	04:56
wolfwalker	I just did a sdo apt-get update	04:56
wolfwalker	Woof!	04:56
wolfwalker	How long will this take?	04:56
phobiac	DaSkreech: Ahh oops. I stand corrected. Old bad habit.	04:56
phobiac	I'll have to watch myself on that.	04:56
wolfwalker	I sit corrected. I'm lazy	04:56
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: what are you trying to do?	04:57
freshburn	phobiac kate is graphical	04:57
phobiac	wolfwalker: Depends on your internet connection, it shouldn't take too long.	04:57
jmichaelx	does gaim not come with a default kubuntu install?	04:57
phobiac	I know, that's kind of why I just admitted to being wrong.	04:57
WiglyWorm	Um.. I want GAIM or something so I can talk to my friends while I'm on linux	04:57
DaSkreech	jmichaelx: No that's Ubuntu	04:57
jmichaelx	ahhh	04:57
freshburn	phobiac its ok, im set up so i can login as root so im bad too	04:58
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Want to try kopete first? or you want Gaim?	04:58
freshburn	lol	04:58
jmichaelx	WiglyWorm: you already have kopete on your system, and you can get gaim from the repositories	04:58
jmichaelx	oops, sorry	04:58
wolfwalker	Ladies and gentlemen............. My computer is now installing Audacity	04:58
WiglyWorm	Kopete will allow me to talk to people on Yahoo?	04:58
wolfwalker	AAAAAAlelujah!	04:58
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Yes	04:58
WiglyWorm	oh.. alright	04:58
forceflow_	who loves you baby.....	04:59
forceflow_	:)	04:59
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: press Alt+Space	04:59
DaSkreech	type kop and press enter	04:59
phobiac	wolfwalker: The linux version is really ugly. At least the one I just installed is. :(	04:59
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: After that if you have a problem let me know	04:59
DaSkreech	It should be easy after that	04:59
wolfwalker	Ugly is irrelevant	04:59
WiglyWorm	OMFG@alt+space	04:59
wolfwalker	Will it work?	04:59
phobiac	It should	04:59
wolfwalker	And will it SOUND good?	05:00
phobiac	Although I got some weird error about playing audio that I'm going to look into	05:00
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Don't make me laugh that hard!	05:00
wolfwalker	That's what is relevant	05:00
phobiac	No idea	05:00
Mez	WiglyWorm, I see you discovered katapult ?	05:00
WiglyWorm	Seems so. :)	05:00
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phobiac	Ahhh katapult, I love katapult	05:00
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WiglyWorm	In case you guys haven't been able to tell yet...	05:00
jmichaelx	DaSkreech: ty for that, i had never used katapult either lol	05:01
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=== DaSkreech is a pimp
jmichaelx	lol	05:01
=== Mez crowns DaSkreech the katapult pimp
WiglyWorm	I just installed Linux for the first time ever yesterday.	05:01
Mez	Welcome to Linux WiglyWorm	05:01
jmichaelx	WiglyWorm: you will like it	05:01
WiglyWorm	So.. I'm honestly about the biggest newb ever.	05:01
DaSkreech	^H^H^H^H^H Welcome to KDE :)	05:01
jmichaelx	i just started with linux about 8 months ago	05:01
sampan	everyone started there once wiglyworm	05:01
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: have you opened Kopete?	05:02
WiglyWorm	Given that I'm a windows power user.. quite qualified to be tech support and all that... this has been rather humbling.	05:02
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Hopefully you'll be a better windows admin by the time you are done	05:03
wolfwalker	Did someone recommend ardour as a good sound editor?	05:03
WiglyWorm	And yes, Kopete is up and running, and I'm logged in and talking. Thank you guys. ^_^	05:03
wolfwalker	Cause I can't find it	05:03
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Good tiem for more fun	05:03
phobiac	DaSkreech: You mean he'll start recommending linux to those that ask for tech support?	05:03
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Alt+Space -> 2^5	05:03
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DaSkreech	phobiac: not necessarily	05:03
DaSkreech	Where it's needed yes	05:03
phobiac	It was a joke :P	05:04
DaSkreech	but Linux teaches you enough to figure out Windows problems that perplexed you before	05:04
WiglyWorm	I'm sorry, am I calculating, DaSkreech?	05:04
DaSkreech	Which makes it a much better OS to run	05:04
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Yup. On the fly. fastest calculator I know of	05:04
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sampan	oh that's nice katapault feature ... very nice calculator!	05:04
DaSkreech	dwidmann: Thank you. First person not to be humping KDE4	05:05
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Mez	DaSkreech, you are indeed a katapult pimp	05:05
Mez	DaSkreech, now get him to play music	05:05
WiglyWorm	Also, as I'd like to be a network tech... I can't at all imagine it being a bad thing for me to have my feet wet with linux.	05:05
DaSkreech	Oh sure	05:06
DaSkreech	Type the name of an artist	05:06
DaSkreech	(Assuming amarok is open)	05:06
freshburn	wow, i had "opened" katapult form the k menu before and it showed up on the screen and i wasnt sure what it was so i pushed ESC	05:06
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: You will breathe unix/linux of you do networking	05:06
DaSkreech	The internet IS linux	05:06
DaSkreech	Mez: Bettah have mah money!!!	05:07
WiglyWorm	Well, the vast swaths of it that aren't windows server 2003... so like.. what? 70-80 percent?	05:07
wolfwalker	Okay, while my komputer is online	05:07
freshburn	lol so will it allow any shell command?	05:07
wolfwalker	What programs should I shop around for?	05:07
dwidmann	daskreech, don't worry, I'll do that too soon ;)	05:07
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Sure you want to try take down 80% of the internet? :)	05:07
Mez	freebsdfreak, not really, just anything in your K menu	05:07
Mez	theres a plugin that I've made that allows you to do that	05:07
Mez	but you'd need to compile it yourself to do that	05:07
DaSkreech	Mez wrong tab :0	05:07
WiglyWorm	If it means I don't have to learn linux? Possibly.	05:07
WiglyWorm	This is crazy, so far.	05:08
DaSkreech	wolfwalker: What are you into?	05:08
Mez	s/freebsdfreak/freshburn/	05:08
freshburn	daskreech yeah its called the blue screen of death lol	05:08
wolfwalker	MUSIC!!!	05:08
wolfwalker	Audio	05:08
wolfwalker	Burner, converter, editor, all of it	05:08
DaSkreech	wolfwalker: Making or listening?	05:08
wolfwalker	Tracker, dare I hope?	05:09
wolfwalker	Making, editing	05:09
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DaSkreech	Hmm Audacity is good. Jack is also interesting	05:09
Mez	jack's a PITA :D	05:09
WiglyWorm	Speaking of music...	05:09
wolfwalker	Jack?	05:09
Mez	acudacity is a good app	05:09
Mez	but then - I like jokosher :D	05:09
wolfwalker	sudo apt-get install jack?	05:09
DaSkreech	Mez: I said it was INTERESTING	05:09
wolfwalker	I got Audacity	05:09
wolfwalker	First on my list	05:09
WiglyWorm	Can Kubuntu read NTFS so I can open up all these MP3s on my windows partition?	05:09
freshburn	yup	05:09
Mez	WiglyWorm, read yes, write no	05:10
wolfwalker	And WHY can Linux not write to NTFS if it can read?	05:10
WiglyWorm	Rawk, how do I go about pointing it to other partitions?	05:10
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homer	wolfwalker: it can write too	05:10
freshburn	i keep all my mp3s and divx in a fat32 for that reason..	05:10
freshburn	homer: reliably?	05:11
WiglyWorm	Oh, can it write to fat32 with no problems?	05:11
homer	freshburn: apperently so	05:11
freshburn	wiglyworm yes having a fat32 partition is a good in-between for dualbooting and the like	05:11
wolfwalker	So where do I get ardour?	05:11
freshburn	i prefer not to EVER mount my ntfs winxp drives just to be safe	05:12
homer	ntfs-3g	05:12
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homer	you also gotta release ntfs is a super complex partition format	05:12
freshburn	the bad thing about doing that for me is dvd rips cannot be more than 4gig	05:12
homer	I believe the windows driver is like 1 million lines of code	05:12
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homer	and microsoft doesn't even release specs for it	05:13
DaSkreech	wolfwalker: It can't write reliably	05:13
WiglyWorm	I have a NTFS partition that's on a seperate physical disk (the same one Linux is on), so... how do I point Linux at it?	05:13
homer	but yes ntfs-3g writes to NTFS, and is like half mill lines o code :o	05:13
Mez	!ardour	05:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:13
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Umm I think the easy way might be too complicated	05:14
DaSkreech	!drives	05:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about drives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:14
DaSkreech	damn :-(	05:14
phobiac	I found ardour in adpet but the package is gtk	05:14
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Do you know ow Unix sees drives?	05:14
phobiac	Isn't gtk gnome?	05:14
DaSkreech	phobiac: No	05:14
DaSkreech	Gnome is gtk	05:14
WiglyWorm	Nope. I have no idea.	05:14
phobiac	That's what I thought	05:14
dwidmann	it's kind of like how kde is not qt, but it heavily uses qt ... gnome has the same sort of relationship with gtk	05:15
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Want a tutorial?	05:15
homer	i think kubuntu come with gtk	05:15
phobiac	Will gtk based apps run okay in KDE?	05:15
homer	yes	05:15
phobiac	Okay	05:15
dwidmann	phobiac: yes	05:15
phobiac	wolfwalker: Check adept for ardour	05:15
wolfwalker	Found it!	05:15
Mez	phobiac, yes they will - now we fixed qt-engines-gtk ;)	05:15
wolfwalker	!ardour-gtk	05:16
ubotu	ardour-gtk: digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-2build1 (edgy), package size 2188 kB, installed size 5992 kB	05:16
WiglyWorm	Skreech: yes, please.	05:16
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yonkeltron	is there an easy way to convert adobe 7 eps to svg?	05:16
soulrider	DaSkreech: i would be interested in a tutorial too	05:17
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: alright how are drives handled in Windows?	05:17
DaSkreech	hi soulrider :)	05:17
soulrider	hi DaSkreech :P	05:17
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: including partitons?	05:17
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soulrider	DaSkreech: id like to hear the complete sotry if you dont mind :P	05:18
wolfwalker	Okay, any other audio programs I should get?	05:18
WiglyWorm	What do you mean by "handled"? Using master/slave disks, system partitions, etc.?	05:18
wolfwalker	Got Audacity, k3b, sound-konverter, ardour	05:18
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: No that's hardware that never changes	05:19
DaSkreech	You have a drive how does it show up in windows?	05:19
WiglyWorm	Well, partitions not so much, but alright.	05:19
dwidmann	wolfwalker, how about vorbis-tools?	05:19
DaSkreech	They come up as letters right?	05:19
WiglyWorm	Okay, yes.	05:19
dwidmann	comes with ogg123 ... useful if your gui decides to die	05:20
WiglyWorm	I didn't know you were going so basic on me. :)	05:20
WiglyWorm	Yes, they are displayed as letters. ^_^	05:20
DaSkreech	Right and the letters all come under My Computer?	05:20
WiglyWorm	Mmm hmmm.	05:20
DaSkreech	ok Under UNIX that's not how things are done	05:21
DaSkreech	there is one "super folder" called /	05:21
DaSkreech	Under / everythign exists	05:21
DaSkreech	It's called teh FHS	05:22
DaSkreech	!fhs	05:22
ubotu	The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux	05:22
wolfwalker	vorbis-tools?	05:22
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DaSkreech	You can read it up in your spare time :)	05:22
phobiac	In the begining, there was nothing. And then we said, let there be /! And there was.	05:22
phobiac	Sorry, couldn't resist.	05:22
WiglyWorm	I suppose that explains why nothing ever works in the console when I forget the preceding "/"	05:22
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DaSkreech	Directly under / all the folders have a purpose	05:22
WiglyWorm	That always irked me, but it makes sense now. ^_^	05:22
WiglyWorm	Sorry, go on. :)	05:22
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: That's absolute and relative :) I can explain those after :)	05:23
Tox	how to organise my programs list is there any program that to sort it ?	05:23
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DaSkreech	under / there is a folder called dev (or devices) which holds all things which exist in the real world that is not a human	05:23
phobiac	tox: click on whatever you want to organize that's a menu and choose menu editor	05:24
DaSkreech	your soundcard,MP3 player, processor, hard drives etc	05:24
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: IDE drives or SATA?	05:24
Tox	i mean there are a lot of programs and i need a program to categorise it or something like that	05:24
DaSkreech	Tox: They aren't categorised now?	05:25
phobiac	They should already be sorted	05:25
DaSkreech	soulrider: Making sense so far?	05:25
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Tox	that sorting is very bad	05:25
wolfwalker	What is gimp?	05:25
phobiac	!gimp	05:25
ubotu	gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.	05:25
WiglyWorm	My disks are IDE.	05:25
WiglyWorm	EIDE, if you want to get technical. :P	05:26
phobiac	Tox: Then use menu editor to resort them	05:26
Tox	ok ill try ..	05:26
wolfwalker	Good night y'all	05:26
wolfwalker	Thanks for all the help	05:26
phobiac	Goodnight	05:26
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: alright if you look under the /dev folder you will see some files named hd<something something>	05:26
DaSkreech	wolfwalker: night	05:27
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: easiest way is in the Konsole	05:27
sampan	goodnight wolfwalker	05:27
DaSkreech	type ls /dev/hd<tabtab>	05:27
DaSkreech	it will auto complete the names for you	05:27
WiglyWorm	what does "ls" do?	05:27
WiglyWorm	I would kill you all for a list of console commands and what they do.	05:28
dwidmann	list	05:28
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: It lists the contents of a folder	05:28
HymnToLife	!command \| WiglyWorm	05:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:28
wolfwalker	It didn't shut down :/	05:28
HymnToLife	!commands \| WiglyWorm	05:28
ubotu	WiglyWorm: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands	05:28
dwidmann	WiglyWorm: I wouldn't recommend that, I don't respond well to violence o.O	05:28
DaSkreech	Well done HymnToLife :)	05:28
WiglyWorm	rawk. Ty Hym.	05:28
WiglyWorm	Hymn, too	05:29
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Put that in your reading pile as well :	05:29
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: You get a listing of hd files?	05:29
DaSkreech	hda1 etc ?	05:29
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dwidmann	man: the most important command you'll ever learn ;)	05:29
WiglyWorm	aye, I did.	05:29
DaSkreech	dwidmann: aman!	05:30
DaSkreech	I mean amen :)	05:30
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Ok here is how you read them	05:30
DaSkreech	HD == IDE device	05:30
DaSkreech	hda is the first IDE device on the first IDE chain	05:30
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DaSkreech	hdb is the second	05:30
DaSkreech	lo Jucato	05:30
DaSkreech	hdc is the third etc	05:31
Mez	lo Jucato	05:31
DaSkreech	hda1 is the first partition on the first drive	05:31
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DaSkreech	hda2 the second partion	05:31
WiglyWorm	Okay... corrosponding to (for EIDE) Primary Master, Primary Slave, Secondary Master, Secondary slave?	05:31
WiglyWorm	for a, b, c, d?	05:31
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: right	05:31
HymnToLife	DaSkreech, unless the drive is SATA/SCSI, in which case it's /dev/sda1	05:32
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: One important thing is that the FIRST secondary partion is always 5	05:32
DaSkreech	so hda5	05:32
Jucato	hi DaSkreech	05:32
Jucato	hi Mez!! :)	05:32
DaSkreech	HymnToLife: I was getting to that :)	05:32
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HymnToLife	or it is plugged on the sec IDE controller, in which case it's /dev/hdc1 ;)	05:32
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: The second secondary partiotn is 6 (hda6)	05:32
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DaSkreech	so to recap what would the 3 primary partion on the master device on the secondary channel be called?	05:33
soulrider	DaSkreech: whats the diference between a primary partition, a seconady and an extended and logic ?	05:33
Jucato	Mez: how's the Katapult site? it is back up?	05:33
Jucato	soulrider: there is no secondary partition	05:33
DaSkreech	soulrider: Do you mean what's the secondary == extended/logical	05:34
soulrider	DaSkreech: just mentioned something like that, didnt he ?	05:34
DaSkreech	I'm just a nitwit :)	05:34
Jucato	an extended partition is a primary partition this is capable of holding a number of logical partitions	05:34
soulrider	i just put partitions, dont really know the differences :P	05:34
HymnToLife	soulrider, a primary partition is needed by some old software to boot	05:34
soulrider	like windows right?	05:34
DaSkreech	Jucato: we need an updated !mount btw	05:35
soulrider	i think it needs that	05:35
HymnToLife	and an extended partition is a partition that can contain others	05:35
DaSkreech	soulrider: Lots of OSes need it	05:35
soulrider	whats the point of having an extended?	05:35
HymnToLife	useful because you can only have 4 primary partitions / drive	05:35
HymnToLife	or three primary + one extended	05:35
soulrider	oh	05:35
soulrider	that sucks ass	05:35
HymnToLife	so if you want, say, ten partitions	05:35
DaSkreech	yeah but what you going to do	05:35
HymnToLife	you'll have to make an extended	05:35
Jucato	DaSkreech: ??	05:35
Dr_willis	extended contains 'logical' partitions. :)	05:35
DaSkreech	!mount	05:35
ubotu	Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter	05:35
soulrider	and ten inside	05:35
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HymnToLife	or three primaries + one extended containing seven logicals	05:36
DaSkreech	soulrider: So if you plan on having more than two partions make one of them extended with logical partions	05:37
soulrider	i have 4 actually	05:37
soulrider	and none are extended :P	05:37
Jucato	you can have any combination of primary+extended partitions.. but the total must always be 4. then you can split up an extended partition in as many ways as you want	05:37
HymnToLife	soulrider, not wise thing	05:37
HymnToLife	because of you want to add one, you're toast	05:37
soulrider	=/	05:37
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soulrider	i need to croll up and re read something for a sec	05:38
Jucato	go on... that's what scrolling up is for :P	05:38
DaSkreech	sure	05:38
WiglyWorm	What? I'm sorry? I got lost in all the chatter.	05:38
soulrider	DaSkreech: i get confused with the secondary partitioon part	05:39
dwidmann	Speaking of partitioning, does anyone in here by chance know how to setup LVM? I've been meaning to do so but I'm hitting roadblocks	05:39
soulrider	because	05:39
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soulrider	i have 4 partitions, and they are sda1, sda2, sda3 and sda4	05:39
Jucato	soulrider: there is no "secondary partition".. there are only primary and extended partitions, then an extended partition can be split into logical partitions	05:39
WiglyWorm	I kind of zoned out when it became a philisophical debate about partitioning...	05:39
Jucato	WiglyWorm: it's more technical than philosophical :P	05:39
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: so to recap what would the 3 primary partion on the master device on the secondary channel be called?	05:39
soulrider	and the logicals are secondary ?	05:39
DaSkreech	soulrider: Yes	05:40
HymnToLife	soulrider, forget the "secondary", the logicals ate logicals, period	05:40
soulrider	well, logicals inside extended that is right ?	05:40
DaSkreech	soulrider: right	05:40
HymnToLife	yep	05:40
soulrider	ahhh	05:40
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soulrider	i understand now	05:40
soulrider	that makes sense	05:40
DaSkreech	HymnToLife: My fault. Engaged fingers before brain	05:40
soulrider	just by knowing that, lots of things i didnt understand i understand now	05:40
soulrider	and no wi understand why my second hard drive has such weird numbers :P	05:41
DaSkreech	soulrider: Yeah useful info :)	05:41
HymnToLife	soulrider, which ones ?	05:41
WiglyWorm	Depends on the number of partitions on the drives, because if I'm reading you correctly, secondary partitions would become 5 and 6 on the pri master and pri slave, so the one in your question is um... likely to be 3?	05:41
DaSkreech	1 2 5 6 I'm betting	05:41
WiglyWorm	Err.. or maybe hdc2?	05:41
HymnToLife	how is that weird ?	05:41
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: hdc3	05:41
DaSkreech	HymnToLife: cause he didn't know about logical partions before	05:42
WiglyWorm	where did hdc2 go?	05:42
Jucato	DaSkreech: you and your secondary partitions... :P	05:42
soulrider	well on my other drive i got hdb5, it makes sense that i dont have 1 or 2 or.....	05:42
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: I didn't ask about hdc2 :)	05:42
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: the 3rd primary partion is going to be 3 all the time	05:42
HymnToLife	yippee, just finished compiling GIMP on my FBSD :p	05:42
WiglyWorm	Hmmmm	05:42
HymnToLife	hmm	05:42
WiglyWorm	Why?	05:42
HymnToLife	!offtopic \| HymnToLife	05:43
ubotu	HymnToLife: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	05:43
DaSkreech	cause it's 3rd	05:43
soulrider	i was gona sign up for a linux course, but i totally forgot and it started already	05:43
nik_	so i just found out that i have to use the HSF linuxant drivers that require $$ for full speed	05:43
WiglyWorm	Oh wait...	05:43
WiglyWorm	Okay..	05:43
soulrider	DaSkreech: pictures help me a lot	05:43
WiglyWorm	I was going to ask a question, but realized I just anwered it for myself.	05:43
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: ok question two :)	05:43
soulrider	great!	05:43
WiglyWorm	The first extended takes 5, so the second takes 2, and the third takes 3, right?	05:43
nik_	my question is what do i search for on emule to get em the other way? j/k (kinda)	05:44
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: What would the 3rd logical partion on the slave for the master channel be?	05:44
soulrider	nik_: the name? :P	05:44
WiglyWorm	Master channel = primary HD controller?	05:44
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: yup	05:45
nik_	soulrider i guess what i meant is do warez/cracks/keygen exist for it?	05:45
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WiglyWorm	That's hdb3?	05:45
nik_	no that i support pir8 software	05:45
nik_	not that	05:45
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Hmm ok let me go over the primamry and logical partions again	05:45
HymnToLife	WiglyWorm, nope, it should be hda*	05:45
WiglyWorm	Gah what?	05:45
DaSkreech	HymnToLife: Nope hdb is right	05:46
WiglyWorm	Slave drive = hrb?	05:46
WiglyWorm	Okay, good.	05:46
DaSkreech	Right	05:46
HymnToLife	hdb is the pri slave	05:46
DaSkreech	Right	05:46
WiglyWorm	That's what he asked.	05:46
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HymnToLife	but what the heck with the number ?	05:46
WiglyWorm	And I guess the partitions are about where I blanked out.	05:46
HymnToLife	you can have it called hdb564 if you want	05:46
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: you know the differnce between primary and logical partions right?	05:46
WiglyWorm	yes.	05:46
DaSkreech	ok hda1-4 is primary	05:47
HymnToLife	hmm, not that high maybe but relly the number is not important	05:47
DaSkreech	the first logical has to be 5	05:47
WiglyWorm	Ohhhhh okay.	05:47
DaSkreech	the second has to be 6	05:47
DaSkreech	etc	05:47
WiglyWorm	Right.	05:47
HymnToLife	DaSkreech, not necessarily	05:47
Dr_willis	hda1-4 could be 'extended' the first logical In an extended would be 5 and up.	05:47
DaSkreech	HymnToLife: By default :-P and order makes life good	05:47
DaSkreech	Dr_willis: An extended is just a priamry with a single purpose	05:48
DaSkreech	still a primary	05:48
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: so what's the answer to the second question I asked before?	05:48
Dr_willis	but i do belive most of the disk partitiong tools dont call them that way.	05:48
WiglyWorm	The question was the second logical on the primary slave, yeah?	05:49
Dr_willis	ive tryed to mount hda4 when i ment hda5 way tooo many times.. :)	05:49
WiglyWorm	That'd be hdb6...	05:49
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HymnToLife	ow, the source for Firefox 2.0.0.1 is 35 MB	05:49
DaSkreech	Yay! :)	05:49
DaSkreech	Alright	05:49
WiglyWorm	Okay.	05:49
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm, soulrider: moving forward?	05:50
soulrider	sure	05:50
WiglyWorm	I'm down/.	05:50
DaSkreech	Alright. to get the info from the device into the / system you have to mount it	05:50
soulrider	im gonna make a sandwich though so make long sentences so i dont have to scroll up... plix =d	05:50
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DaSkreech	You can only mount it under / but you can do mount a device to any folder under / (or subfolder) that you want to	05:51
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DaSkreech	so if you make some folder then type sudo mount /dev/hd<devicedetails> </path/to/folder>	05:51
DaSkreech	You can ls the folder and see what is on the partition/drive :)	05:52
HymnToLife	all right, going to bed, I'll let the damned FF thingie compile by itself	05:52
HymnToLife	'night guys	05:52
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DaSkreech	Night	05:52
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JAAmon	CENTRAL RINGER	05:52
DaSkreech	Hi Morbo	05:53
Morbo	Hello :)	05:53
nik_	!FF	05:54
ubotu	firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins	05:54
nik_	lol	05:54
DaSkreech	Morbo: Where did you get the name from?	05:54
nik_	actualy lmfao i knew that	05:54
Morbo	Futurama, DaSkreech	05:54
DaSkreech	nik_: Toss in a S and see what it does	05:54
DaSkreech	Kittens DO give Morbo gas!	05:54
nik_	?!FFS	05:54
nik_	!FFS	05:54
ubotu	Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	05:54
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nik_	lol	05:54
nik_	i meant final fantasy seven, really......	05:55
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nik_	so does anyone use the HSF linuxant drivers?	05:55
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nik_	or how bout win4linpro	05:56
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DaSkreech	nik_: #ubuntu would probably get faster responses	05:56
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HymnToLife	nik_, build yourself a nice hardware modem, it would be cheaper than the Linuxant drivers anyway :p	05:56
nik_	how much are they?	05:56
nik_	i didnt even bother to look at the price	05:57
HymnToLife	about 20 bucks IIRC	05:57
nik_	lol	05:57
nik_	im such a cheap bastard id rather pir8 them	05:57
nik_	or hack thier server and d/l them and put em on rapidshare	05:57
nik_	lol	05:58
nik_	i wish i knew about linux when i bought this dang laptop	05:58
nik_	at least i got my wireless to work, so i connect my xp puter and then use net wireless on my laptop	05:58
nik_	and hotspots for big d/ls	05:59
WiglyWorm	Skreech, so conceptually here.. if I want to look at any device other than the drive that Linux is natively installed on, I have to mount it?	05:59
nik_	well, im outa here, yes wiglyworm	05:59
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nik_	l8tr all	05:59
soulrider	yes WiglyWorm	05:59
WiglyWorm	right...	05:59
HymnToLife	WiglyWorm, no, but if you want to access the files on it, yes	05:59
WiglyWorm	Okay.	05:59
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: You can set it to auto mount on boot	06:00
HymnToLife	you can have it mounter automagically at boot time though	06:00
DaSkreech	But before then it doesn't know where to go	06:00
HymnToLife	mounted*	06:00
WiglyWorm	I see.	06:00
nik_	hymntolife so he can set the usb stick on his table and "look" at it all he wants eh?	06:00
HymnToLife	exactly :p	06:01
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HymnToLife	usb sticks sure look nice nowadays	06:01
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Want to see your stuff quick now?	06:01
nik_	lol	06:01
nik_	hasta minana	06:01
WiglyWorm	Yes, yes I would, in fact.	06:02
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Still in konsole?	06:03
WiglyWorm	aye	06:03
DaSkreech	type pwd	06:03
DaSkreech	where are you ?	06:03
DaSkreech	pwd = print working directory	06:03
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soulrider	jaja	06:03
WiglyWorm	I'm in my /home/chris/	06:03
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soulrider	oops, wrong window	06:03
robnyc	how do I add music to my ipod using amarok ?	06:04
HymnToLife	!ipod \| robnyc	06:04
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ubotu	robnyc: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod	06:04
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: alright make a direcoty	06:04
DaSkreech	mkdir <dirname>	06:04
robnyc	ty hybrid	06:04
robnyc	HymnToLife, *	06:04
DaSkreech	then sudo mount /dev/hd<ntfsdrive> <dirname>	06:04
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Let me know when you are done with that	06:05
WiglyWorm	full path for <dirname>?	06:05
WiglyWorm	or just relative to my working directory?	06:05
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: Nope	06:05
DaSkreech	It's relative	06:05
WiglyWorm	k	06:06
DaSkreech	if it doesn't have a / then it's relative to where you are	06:06
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WiglyWorm	I'm sorry, is that "/dev/hd/hdb1" or just /dev/hdb1?	06:08
Morbo	/dev/hdb1	06:08
phobiac	Night	06:09
notech	WiglyWorm: hdb is primary slave and the 1 means the first partition	06:09
WiglyWorm	Man... I really wish the console gave feedback to your commands....	06:10
WiglyWorm	But I suppose since I got nothing, I'm good to go?	06:10
notech	yes	06:10
notech	noo feedback is a good thing, means no error	06:10
WiglyWorm	heh... not enough permission ftw.	06:10
Morbo	WiglyWorm- did you remember the sudo ?	06:11
WiglyWorm	I love how secure linux is... it won't let even the only user of the computer do a thing without retyping the password a bajillion times.	06:11
WiglyWorm	Yeah, I mounted it, I tried to look at it in Konquerer. :)	06:11
DaSkreech	Did you get it?	06:11
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WiglyWorm	No, it said I didn't have permission. :)	06:12
DaSkreech	excellent :)	06:12
robnyc	im having problems with amarok + ipod	06:12
robnyc	it wont read it	06:12
DaSkreech	alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror /home/chris	06:12
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WiglyWorm	a) what does kdesu do? b) how come it used to look like a drive but now looks like a folder with nothing in it?	06:14
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Jucato	!kdesu	06:14
ubotu	In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do not do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo	06:14
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Dr_willis	eitehr its not mounted, or you dont have permissions to acces it.	06:14
DaSkreech	I think it is mounted	06:14
Dr_willis	check it out with the shell	06:15
dennister	hi pps :)	06:15
Dr_willis	sudo mount -----> should show whats mounted where	06:15
DaSkreech	Dr_willis: actually just mount should show that as well	06:15
Dr_willis	actually just 'mount' may work. :)	06:15
DaSkreech	I just said that!!	06:15
Dr_willis	:P	06:15
DaSkreech	:-P	06:15
Dr_willis	no ya dident.. you echoed me	06:15
Dr_willis	:)	06:15
DaSkreech	echo -n	06:15
WiglyWorm	all it has in it is a folder called "System Volume Information"... maybe I targeted the wrong partition...	06:16
DaSkreech	Maybe	06:16
dennister	OpenOffice question: it's help says versioning of a document is to be found under File--->Versions, yet I can't see any "Versions" under the File menu...what gives?	06:17
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: sudo umount <dirname>	06:17
WiglyWorm	command not found.	06:17
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Dr_willis	:)	06:17
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shinigami	Hi DaSkreech.. i realise that i cannot play mp3 from amarok while i play videos from mplayer.. is there a fix for this?	06:17
Dr_willis	playing a song while watching a movie....	06:18
DaSkreech	shinigami: Umm You want to make your own soundtrack to movies? :)	06:18
shinigami	haha	06:18
shinigami	nono ok actually i'm a media analyst	06:18
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: not uNmount just umount	06:18
Dr_willis	DaSkreech, perhaps hes playing that PinkFloyd album whikle watching the wizard of oz.	06:18
WiglyWorm	Oh well... my brain is beginning to smell a bit like an electrical fire.... I think it's best I take a break from this for the night, come at it tomorrow.	06:18
shinigami	at work i need to do media analyst ..but when i play mp3 at the same time..u know..i think it clash	06:18
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DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: possibly the worst named command in Unix	06:18
shinigami	i tried..like using wine to run warcraft..amarok also doesn't work	06:18
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DaSkreech	though some might argue for finger....	06:19
shinigami	think ther'es a conflict with the alsa/oss?	06:19
Jucato	oooh an angel of death appears...	06:19
DaSkreech	most likely	06:19
shinigami	haha..yea death god	06:19
Jucato	!mp3 \| shinigami	06:19
ubotu	shinigami: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	06:19
shinigami	watched deathnote?	06:19
Jucato	nope :P	06:19
WiglyWorm	Okay guys... have a good nigt. You'll be seeing alot more of me, I'm sure.	06:19
WiglyWorm	And putting up with my newbie antics as well, I'm sure.	06:19
Dr_willis	It pays to have a nice sound card to do what you are wanting to do shinigami	06:20
DaSkreech	WiglyWorm: night	06:20
shinigami	what does nice sound card have to do with multi tasking the programs that uses my soundcard?	06:21
dwidmann	exactly.	06:21
Dr_willis	lets put it this way - i have a creative audigy card.. and i have NO problems doing what you are wanting to do.	06:21
Dr_willis	hardware mixing vs software mixing.	06:22
dwidmann	hardware mixing > software mixing	06:22
Dr_willis	i see constantly people in here wanting to play more then 1 audio source/stream at a time with lowend/builtin cards.. and they have huge hassles with it.	06:22
shinigami	k i'm not doing mixing..err i'm just.. you know.. playing a game that uses my sound card..and in background playing a mp3 too	06:22
shinigami	windows can do that	06:23
dwidmann	Doc, I've got a builtin and have no problems with it :) ... granted, it's very, very nice for builtin	06:23
Dr_willis	shinigami, if every program uses ALSA properly - then the linux apps should be able to do it also.	06:23
Dr_willis	but often its oss vs alsa or some sound server fighting with some other sound server thats the issue as well.	06:24
dwidmann	A unified method of implementing sound would be nice ....	06:24
Dr_willis	sound issues used to be a lot worse then they are now. :)	06:24
Dr_willis	dwidmann, yep. alsa is slowly getting there.	06:24
dwidmann	tell me about it	06:24
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dwidmann	even just a couple years ago sound was in ugly shape	06:25
Dr_willis	'sound blaster comaptiable' :)	06:25
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shinigami	does it applies to nas? my mplayer is streaming video from server..audio using nas.. amarok i guess its autodetecting..i'll try to force it to use alsa	06:25
Dr_willis	its best to set everything up to use alsa	06:26
Dr_willis	if you can.	06:26
dwidmann	to force mplayer to use alsa, use the "-ao alsa" switch	06:26
Dr_willis	yea mplayer may be the one causing the problems	06:26
shinigami	yeah..sigh..but the application in my company forces it to use -ao nas.. need to edit the scripts to do that..troublesomee........	06:27
Dr_willis	cant say that ive ever used 'nas' for audio.	06:28
Dr_willis	so cant tell ya anything about it	06:28
shinigami	what's the command to see what programs are using my devices?	06:28
Dr_willis	lsof - perhaps	06:28
dwidmann	fuser perhaps?	06:28
dwidmann	doc, you wouldn't happen to know anything about lvm would you?	06:30
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shinigami	fuser /dev/audio ?	06:31
dwidmann	shinigami, I suppose so	06:31
Dr_willis	dwidmann, i know enough to avoide it. :) for my minimal needs.	06:33
Dr_willis	heh heh	06:33
dwidmann	my needs are somewhat minimal as well, I just like to experiment. A lot.	06:34
shinigami	why do i keep getting localhost kernel: [17192683.784000] Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness in my /var/log/messages on my sony vaio laptop? and sometimes the "Adjusting brightness" screen pop out for 1-2 sec and disappear	06:34
shinigami	new installation of kubuntu	06:34
dwidmann	The idea of having one partition across two of my disks just sounds too appealing to pass up.	06:34
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dwidmann	shinigami, the acpi on your ?laptop? is probably buggy?	06:35
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shinigami	what should i do?	06:38
Jucato	summon the 4 gods...	06:39
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dwidmann	shinigami, you should most definitely complain to the manufacturer, though it probably won't do you any good.	06:42
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Jucato	:O	06:42
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Mez	:P	06:42
Jucato	lol	06:42
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Jucato	gr...	06:43
dwidmann	hahahaha	06:43
shinigami	haha	06:43
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shinigami	i have two of this sony vaios laptop..both same problem after installing kubuntu.. i was thinking any drivers would help?	06:44
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shinigami	but i not sure what kind of drivers i should get	06:44
dwidmann	shinigami, I wouldn't count on it	06:44
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shinigami	here's another question.. can i choose my kernal during installation of kubuntu? i need it to support duel-core cpu...	06:46
Jucato	umm nope...	06:46
Jucato	but the generic kernel supports that too afaik	06:46
juano__	shinigami: you would need x86_64 cds	06:46
Dr_willis	with new laptops - often theres lots of little 'bugs' with the kernel/apci/other features and their bios's	06:46
Jucato	!generic \| shinigami	06:46
ubotu	shinigami: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)	06:46
Jucato	oh.. heh didn't know about the x86_64 cds...	06:47
shinigami	how do i reconfigure my kernal then? i need the source for my kernal to make menuconfig>?	06:47
DaSkreech	Night all!	06:47
dwidmann	night DaSkreech	06:47
shinigami	64 means..dual core?	06:47
Dr_willis	64 dosent mean dual core. it means 64bit cpu. :)	06:48
avalon_	I'm having a problem with drive encryption. I want to encrypt two hard drives that I have already chock full of data. All the information I find needs the data to be formatted. Is there a compression system that doesn't need to format my drives?	06:48
shinigami	hmm but is dual core a 64bit?	06:48
shinigami	i think its 32	06:48
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shinigami	ok..just tell me what kernal should i change into for a dual core? 686-smp ? 386? confused	06:51
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dwidmann	shinigami, are you using dapper or edgy?	06:52
Jucato	hm.. didn't get an answer to my last question... is SMP dual core?	06:52
dwidmann	smp = symetric multi-processing, or something like that	06:52
Morbo	SMP = multicore	06:53
Morbo	or multiproc	06:53
Jucato	ah.. because I think the -generic kernel has support for that...	06:53
dwidmann	It does	06:53
Jucato	2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux	06:53
Morbo	Yeah	06:53
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dwidmann	if you're using dapper, you want something like 686-smp or k7-smp, if you're using edgy you want the -generic	06:54
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shahid	anyone here?	06:55
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shinigami	ok i'm using dapper	06:57
mefisto__	I just lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted. On reboot, it told me to do fsck. fsck fixed a lot of things. After that, I rebooted again, but cannot logon. X seems to restart and takes me back to the login screen. What can I do?	06:57
shinigami	so i get 686-smp ? i have to download the kernal and recompile the kernel? (i hate doing this step)	06:57
dwidmann	shinigami, just install the "linux-686" package	06:58
shahid	i'd	06:58
shahid	woops	06:58
shahid	sorry	06:58
dwidmann	or maybe th e linux-686-smp pacakge	06:59
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dwidmann	when I was on dapper I used 64-bit ... and fortunately all of the 64-bit kernels had smp support :)	06:59
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shinigami	does that mean i don't need to recompile my kernal? hehe	07:01
dwidmann	shinigami, no. Installing that package is all you need to do.	07:01
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shinigami	so its just as easy as apt-get install linux-686-smp ?	07:01
dwidmann	yep.	07:01
shinigami	ok i'll try this at home..when i get a hold with the laptop	07:02
dwidmann	then reboot and it should be an option.	07:02
shinigami	wait..option?	07:02
shinigami	i cat /proc/cpuinfo or top i should be acble to see 2 cpus rite?	07:02
dwidmann	indeed.	07:02
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mefisto__	I just lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted. On reboot, it told me to do fsck. fsck fixed a lot of things. After that, I rebooted again, but cannot logon. X seems to restart and takes me back to the login screen. What can I do?	07:03
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shinigami	oh..when u say option i thought i have to do some other steps after installing the package	07:04
mefisto__	can someone help me solve my logon problem?	07:04
dwidmann	No, it'll just be added to your grub's menu.lst, shinigami	07:04
dwidmann	mefiesto__: more than likely	07:04
mefisto__	WILL someone help me solve my logon problem?	07:05
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dwidmann	Why not state the problem, rather than asking that?	07:06
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mefisto__	dwidmann: I did	07:06
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dwidmann	you did?	07:07
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mefisto__	I just lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted. On reboot, it told me to do fsck. fsck fixed a lot of things. After that, I rebooted again, but cannot logon. X seems to restart and takes me back to the login screen. What can I do?	07:07
dwidmann	oh, there it is, all the way up there	07:07
dwidmann	mefiesto: do a console login from kdm, log in, then run the command "startx"	07:07
dwidmann	it will probably give an error message of some sort.	07:08
mefisto__	I did that, but it won't work, just keeps coming back to the login screen.	07:09
dwidmann	it won't let you do a console login?	07:09
mefisto__	no, after startx, it goes to kubuntu login screen	07:10
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dwidmann	okay, mefiesto, I've got an idea, press "ctrl + alt + f1" to get to the terminal, log in, type "sudo killall kdm", then do "startx", it won't have a login screen to fall back to	07:11
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xenophile7x7	does anyone know a good games package, like the one in gnome, for KDE?	07:12
shinigami	[14:04] <dwidmann> No, it'll just be added to your grub's menu.lst, shinigami <-- does that means its installing a new kernal?	07:12
mefisto__	dwidmann: and this is just to get the error messages, or will this hopefully successfully log me in?	07:12
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shinigami	instead of reconfiguring the current one?	07:13
dwidmann	mefiesto: just to get error messages	07:13
dwidmann	shinigami: installing the package is to install a new kernel	07:13
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mefisto__	who was it that was helping me with my login problem?	07:34
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mefisto__	dwidmann: was it you who was trying to help me?	07:37
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mefisto__	dwidmann: are you still around?	07:39
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regeya	gah. apparently my "problem" with firefox and qtcurve was fixed in a later release. that's what I get for installing software from source then slacking on updating. :->	07:40
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mefisto__	I cannot log in. after login, screen goes blank and takes me back to the login screen	07:41
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mortici	whats a good p2p app?	07:42
mefisto__	mortici: ktorrent is pretty good	07:42
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mefisto__	mortici: amule (if you've used emule/edonkey)	07:43
mortici	:/ never had much luck with those apps, the emule	07:43
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mefisto__	mortici: try ktorrent, is should already be installed	07:44
mefisto__	Can someone help with this: I cannot log in. after login, screen goes blank and takes me back to the login screen	07:46
jordo23	Jucato: Hey.....how's it going?	07:46
noiesmo	mefisto__, did you do an upgrade and then the problem occured?	07:47
mefisto__	noiesmo: no, I somehow lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted.	07:48
mefisto__	then the boot process said I should do fsck. After that I rebooted again, an couldn't log in	07:48
noiesmo	mefisto__, O check how much disk space is left	07:48
noiesmo	mefisto__, go to recovery console to check	07:49
mefisto__	noiesmo: how do I check. what command?	07:49
noiesmo	df -h	07:49
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noiesmo	mefisto__, ^^	07:49
mefisto__	noiesmo: and temp files are in /tmp right?	07:50
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noiesmo	mefisto__, I would expect so - apt holds files in /var/cache/apt/archives/	07:50
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dwidmann	mefisto, so, what were your results, did startx get you any errors?	07:52
noiesmo	mefisto__, the other option you have is to boot livecd and then do the fsck on the drive while not mounted	07:52
mefisto__	dwidmann: I got a long list scroll by, then went blank, then back to console.	07:53
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noiesmo	mefisto__, did ou still have drive space	07:53
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addyk	Hello every... body :D	07:54
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mefisto__	I'll try to clear some space on disk. Hopefully that will solve my problem (cause that would be simple :P)	07:54
dwidmann	mefisto, what video driver do you use? I do know there was an xorg update recently which would break X ....	07:54
dwidmann	(if you were using certain drivers, that is)	07:54
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noiesmo	dwidmann, mefisto__ didnt do updates I asked him	07:55
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mefisto__	dwidmann: I got the xorg update a few days ago, but everything was fine	07:55
dwidmann	had you rebooted since the updates?	07:55
mefisto__	yes	07:55
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MobsterLobster	hey all	07:55
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jean-b	hello ther	07:56
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dwidmann	mefisto__, how much space did df say you had left?	07:56
MobsterLobster	what is the most current X?	07:56
mefisto__	I'm on livecd. Can I check that now, or do I need to use recovery mode?	07:57
noiesmo	mefisto__, ok mount the hdd in question then yoou will see	07:57
dwidmann	the version of X in edgy is 7.1, I think there might be a 7.2, can't remember	07:57
MobsterLobster	so the version 6.9 in solaris 10 is old?	07:58
dwidmann	quite	07:58
dwidmann	hmm, looks like 7.1 is current	07:58
addyk	(x.X) I wonder what came with slackware	07:58
noiesmo	mefisto__, open cosole and type mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/hdaX repace X with drive if not maybe /dev/sda	07:58
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Rossco	Hay	07:59
Rossco	HAY GUYZ LOLSZ	07:59
addyk	Aloha! :)	07:59
Rossco	I need some helps	07:59
MobsterLobster	i know this is the wrong place to ask but can update ur X in solaris and is KDE installable on Solaris?	07:59
dwidmann	6.9 was released in late 2005? I think?	07:59
Rossco	I just installed ubuntu kay?	07:59
mefisto__	noiesmo: can I do that on livecd?	07:59
Rossco	and I'm trying to install some software	07:59
noiesmo	mefisto__, yes	07:59
Rossco	can someone help ms?	07:59
Rossco	me*	07:59
noiesmo	mefisto__, open a terminal	08:00
addyk	Rossco: OK :) use Synaptic	08:00
dwidmann	MonsterLobster, yes, and yes. How to do so I'm not sure though.	08:00
mefisto__	noiesmo: can't find it in fstab	08:00
Rossco	addyk	08:00
addyk	Rossco: you should have it installed :)	08:00
Rossco	I type in gaim-xfire-0.6.0-1.5.0.FC4.0.i386.rpm	08:00
noiesmo	mefisto__, thats ok its not mounted	08:00
Rossco	wait	08:00
Rossco	I type in	08:00
MobsterLobster	does solaris have a equivilant of apt?	08:00
noiesmo	mefisto__, do you have normal ide drive	08:00
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mefisto__	noiesmo: so how do I mount it?	08:00
Rossco	apt-get install gaim-xfire-0.6.0-1.5.0.FC4.0.i386.rpm	08:00
mefisto__	yes, ide	08:00
Rossco	is what I typed in	08:01
noiesmo	mefisto__, type mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/hdaX	08:01
Rossco	how do I tell it which directory to go to?	08:01
addyk	OK :)	08:01
Rossco	it's in /tmp/	08:01
noiesmo	mefisto__, replace X with partition number	08:01
addyk	You don't	08:01
addyk	It just installes it	08:01
addyk	Systemwide	08:01
Rossco	I mean	08:01
xenophile7x7	can someone do a quick whois on me, and post the results in pm?	08:01
firecrotc1	Rossco: you cannot install RPMs that way	08:01
addyk	You then can make a link to gaim	08:01
dwidmann	MobsterLobster: dunno	08:01
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Rossco	How do I install it then?	08:01
Rossco	the .rpm file is in tmp	08:02
addyk	It might be allready installed	08:02
addyk	open console	08:02
addyk	and typt gaim	08:02
addyk	*type	08:02
MobsterLobster	ok Sun is doing a shipit of sun 10 so im thinking of using for a server	08:02
noiesmo	mefisto__, if you like you can reboot into recoverey mode on your system and then you could check df -h for space	08:02
noiesmo	mefisto__, the drive will be mounted for you	08:02
Rossco	I have gaim installed	08:02
Rossco	I'm trying to install an addon for it	08:02
MobsterLobster	*solaris 10	08:03
noiesmo	mefisto__, when your in recovery mode you can check the logs in /var/log/ as well	08:03
Rossco	I just wanna know how I install it	08:03
addyk	Oh... Well isn't it? installed? Hmm	08:03
noiesmo	mefisto__, but once you mount drive on licevd you can also do this	08:03
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mefisto__	noiesmo: 121 mb free. but I've had less that that free with no problems	08:03
noiesmo	mefisto__, ok so its not space	08:03
noiesmo	mefisto__, check the logs n /var/log/	08:03
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Rossco	C'mon	08:04
Rossco	I need someone to tell me how to install it	08:04
Rossco	Just, someone tell me how I install an RPM file	08:04
Rossco	that's all I need to know	08:04
Rossco	please	08:04
dwidmann	!alien	08:04
ubotu	RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)	08:04
bartist	hello there	08:04
MobsterLobster	get the .deb	08:04
Rossco	ok	08:05
addyk	Wow... (o.O)	08:05
Rossco	what about tar.gz ?	08:05
addyk	I didn't know that... :\|	08:05
bartist	i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants	08:05
addyk	That's a source in most cases	08:05
dwidmann	mefisto__: apt-get clean is a good way to free up space	08:05
xenophile7x7	hey dwid, can you do that whois one more time?	08:05
bartist	apt-get clean?? what does it do?	08:05
MobsterLobster	WTF my games arent loading	08:06
addyk	Rossco: that should work on all linuxes	08:06
noiesmo	bartist, remove files for cache of apt-get	08:06
dwidmann	apt-get clean clears out the /var/cache/apt/archives	08:06
addyk	In slackware (my system) that's what I use :)	08:06
bartist	ok thanx	08:06
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bartist	i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants, any idea?	08:06
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MobsterLobster	how can i get my games to load?	08:06
addyk	MobsterLobster: which games?	08:07
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gan\|y\|med	hi	08:07
Rossco	Is it possilbe to play windows games in linux? o_o	08:07
MobsterLobster	armagetron, neverball and never putt addyk	08:07
addyk	Rossco: yes	08:08
Rossco	like CS: S and stuff	08:08
MobsterLobster	use wine	08:08
addyk	With an emulator	08:08
Rossco	cost?	08:08
mefisto__	noiesmo: which logs should I check? xorg.0.log?	08:08
addyk	None	08:08
addyk	with wine	08:08
addyk	winex is the one that costs	08:08
MobsterLobster	addyk u got any ideas?	08:08
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gan\|y\|med	can a broken root file system (reiserfs) cause a kernel panic?	08:08
noiesmo	mefisto__, yep	08:09
addyk	addyk: I'm thinking :)	08:09
noiesmo	mefisto__, also maybe messages and syslog	08:09
addyk	MobsterLobster: so the game runs and stops at loadscreen?	08:09
MobsterLobster	it says its loading in the task bar and the KDE logo jumps around but then it just dissapears	08:10
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addyk	OK :) Open a console and type armagetron	08:10
addyk	And see if it shows any error messages	08:11
mefisto__	noiesmo: I don't really know what to look for	08:11
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Rossco	Can someone please help me	08:11
MobsterLobster	Armagetron won't run on your computer	08:12
noiesmo	mefisto__, you still livcd	08:12
mefisto__	noiesmo: yes	08:12
MobsterLobster	Couldn't find matching GLX visual	08:12
Rossco	How do I enable direct rendering?	08:12
noiesmo	mefisto__, copy and paste to pastebin	08:12
noiesmo	!pastebin \| mefisto__	08:12
ubotu	mefisto__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	08:12
MobsterLobster	addyk looks like my 3d drivers aint working	08:12
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mefisto__	noiesmo: which log do you want?	08:12
noiesmo	mefisto__, xorg first	08:13
addyk	MobsterLobster: That's what I'm thinking... you need a new open gl or something	08:13
addyk	:)	08:13
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MobsterLobster	and how would i get that addyk?	08:13
Rossco	someone please help me	08:13
Rossco	rossco@rossco-desktop:~$ glxinfo \| grep direct	08:13
Rossco	direct rendering: No	08:13
Rossco	OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect	08:13
Rossco	How do I enable direct rendering?	08:13
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addyk	MobsterLobster, Use google :) That's how I found it :)	08:14
shinigami	i need help on my sony vaio laptop...a pop up at the center of the screen keep coming up saying "LCD display 'ON'" randomly after about 30 secs etc.. i checked my /var/log/messages its filled with "[17180763.400000] Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness".. new installation of kubutu dapper..help!	08:14
dwidmann	Rossco: you need to install a different video driver ...	08:14
Rossco	Ok	08:14
dwidmann	which one depends on your video card, Rossco	08:14
Rossco	And install the linux drivers?	08:14
Rossco	for my gfx card	08:14
addyk	Rossco, Search at the manufacturers site	08:14
Rossco	Ok	08:14
addyk	If nvidia nvidia.com :)	08:15
mefisto__	noiesmo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1921/	08:15
noiesmo	mefisto__, ok give me a minute	08:15
dwidmann	!ati	08:15
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:15
Rossco	ok	08:15
Rossco	ty	08:15
shinigami	dmesg show a whole list of [17180763.400000] Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness.................	08:16
addyk	Argh... I really need to learn how to use that... (^_^) It's too cool dwidmann :)	08:16
shinigami	!acpi	08:16
ubotu	acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)	08:16
noiesmo	mefisto__, please paste you gdm or kdm log file please	08:16
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dwidmann	!randomness \| addyk	08:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about randomness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:17
dwidmann	There's a list	08:17
addyk	:))	08:17
addyk	Thanks! :D	08:17
addyk	Good morning! btw dwidmann	08:17
shinigami	i need help on my sony vaio laptop...a pop up at the center of the screen keep coming up saying "LCD display 'ON'" randomly after about 30 secs etc.. i checked my /var/log/messages its filled with "[17180763.400000] Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness".. new installation of kubutu dapper..help!	08:18
mefisto__	noiesmo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1922/	08:18
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dwidmann	yw addyk	08:19
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addyk	yw? Don't know the acronim sorry :D	08:20
noiesmo	mefisto__, thats not gdm or kdm log	08:20
noiesmo	mefisto__, the xorg looks normal	08:20
dwidmann	You're welcome	08:20
addyk	OK :D It should have been easy to spot... :)) I must have a slow mind right now... :)	08:21
mefisto__	noiesmo: that's the contents of /var/log/kdm.log	08:22
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shinigami	The following packages have unmet dependencies:	08:23
shinigami	build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or	08:23
shinigami	libc-dev	08:23
shinigami	what does it mean?	08:23
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dwidmann	shinigami, means that something is wrong, perhaps you had the "updates" repository enabled, did an upgrade with it, and then turned it back off, or something similar. It usually comes down to something like that	08:24
bartist	i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants, any idea?	08:25
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shinigami	yes.. the sources.list i used was for edgy.. but i'm using dapper..	08:25
Ashex	anyone know of a dictionary client?	08:26
dwidmann	bartist, at which points does it work?	08:26
shinigami	so i revert back to dapper's sources.list ..now this happen	08:26
Ashex	I want to look up definitions for words locally without a web browser	08:26
stdin	dwidmann: I may be fuelled by coffee, but I'm not a mechanical being :P	08:26
bartist	well it works fine on: windows and ubuntu dapper	08:26
bartist	then i installed kubuntu edgy	08:26
dwidmann	hahahaha, and you get that message this many hours later stdin :D	08:26
noiesmo	mefisto__, ok i don't see anything there thats too odd hmmm	08:27
mefisto__	noiesmo: do you want to see any other log files?	08:27
stdin	dwidmann: I have logs :)	08:27
bartist	it worked a the beginning on Kedgy	08:27
mefisto__	syslog?	08:27
bartist	then it stopped working	08:27
dwidmann	Makes me wonder why you were looking for it though stdin, or what you were looking for, anyway.	08:27
bartist	usualy, it bugs after the sound server crashes	08:27
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bartist	then I reinstalled my alsa packages from a fresh kernel, and it worked a few days	08:28
bartist	then the sound server crashed ...	08:28
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bartist	and i could never fix it again	08:28
shinigami	what should i do?	08:28
bartist	now I have just re-installed Kedgy	08:28
stdin	dwidmann: konversation was flashing, but there was nothing on the screen, so I just search for my nick	08:28
bartist	bot it does not work	08:28
Rossco	HAY PAINLESS	08:28
bartist	any ideA?	08:29
addyk	Hehe... :) I have a question... and I don't know ho much is related to ubuntu/kubuntu, but... how do I make the mouse scroll work? Any Ideeas?	08:29
bartist	just turn the wheel buddy	08:29
dwidmann	shinigami, one sec, I'll see what I can pull together	08:30
addyk	(~_~) I'm not retarded... I know when it ain't working :)	08:30
bartist	just a bad joke addyk ;o)	08:30
shinigami	my other stations (without tweaking with the sources.list) can apt-get install build-essential	08:30
addyk	I know bartist :)	08:30
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dwidmann	addyk, it should be something you set in your xorg.conf	08:30
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bartist	dwidmann, any idea about my sound issue?	08:31
addyk	I got a hint just now... dwidmann :)	08:31
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noiesmo	mefisto__, sorry got ide track, I would prob do the fsck /dev/hdaX but unmount first	08:32
dwidmann	bartist, no clue. To me alsa is a large black box, that I avoid having to know anything about out of the fear that my brain will catch on fire.	08:32
dwidmann	!paste \| dwidmann	08:32
ubotu	dwidmann: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	08:32
Rossco	Guys, I need some help with installing video card drivers	08:32
noiesmo	mefisto__, the logs look fairly normal nothing there I would say is causeing problem	08:32
Rossco	"	08:32
Rossco	#	08:32
Rossco	Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. Selecting one will also install nvidia-kernel-common. (Note: you have to select the restricted modules first because the nvidia-glx package automatically installs the i386 one - and if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work.)	08:32
Rossco	I dont hvae linux-image anything installed	08:33
Rossco	I dunno what do do	08:33
dwidmann	shinigami, I think it was, look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1923/ replace your sources.list with this, then do an update, an upgrade, then try to install build-essential again	08:34
stdin	Rossco: chat dose "uname -r" in konsole show ?	08:34
stdin	s/chat/what	08:34
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Rossco	stdin: it shows 2.6.15-26-386	08:35
mefisto__	noiesmo: the command is fsck hdXX right?	08:36
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maziah	ola	08:36
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maziah	anyone know if there is a multithreadding package manager?	08:36
dwidmann	??	08:37
dwidmann	what do you mean maziah, what are you seaking to have the package manager do?	08:37
shinigami	hi dwidmann.. mine is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1924/	08:37
stdin	Rossco: then you need to get "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386"	08:37
shinigami	take a look see if its alright	08:37
maziah	use multipule threads from a single source for a same file.	08:37
Rossco	Ok thanks	08:37
maziah	like a download manager.	08:38
jason_	how I can use Chinese in Kubuntu ??	08:38
jason_	I can't add language in kubuntu.	08:39
dwidmann	shinigami, looks like it's missing dapper-updates universe (I don't think there is a dapper-updates multiverse, could be though)	08:39
mefisto__	noiesmo: the command is fsck hdXX right?	08:39
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maziah	no idea?	08:39
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dwidmann	wait, yes there is a dapper-updates multiverse, I'll be d***ed	08:40
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jason_	how I can use Chinese in Kubuntu ??	08:40
jason_	I can't add language in kubuntu.	08:40
dwidmann	is for dapper-security too o.O	08:40
Rossco	lol, what is fsck?	08:40
dwidmann	filesystem check	08:41
codyt	lol	08:41
Rossco	If you tell me, I think I may make sense of a shirt I saw a while ago	08:41
Rossco	ROFL	08:41
Rossco	omg lol	08:41
noiesmo	mefisto__, fsck /dev/hdaX	08:41
Rossco	I saw this shirt that said FSCK!	08:41
Rossco	And it said it would make concerned parents complain to you :P	08:41
noiesmo	lol rob	08:41
Rossco	the description fo the shirt	08:41
mefisto__	noiesmo: ok, it said it's clean. Anything else I can try?	08:41
noiesmo	bloody tab completion	08:41
Tmi	Does anyone recognize the problem that KDE's built-in archive manager (the one that is started if you click a .rar if you don't install other unrar-programs) just stops working	08:42
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shinigami	no.. still the same.. can't install build-essential	08:42
noiesmo	mefisto__, you could try create a new user and see if they can log in, maybe reinstall video drivers	08:43
mefisto__	noiesmo: how do I create a new user?	08:43
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dwidmann	shinigami, you said you had some edgy items in your sources.list at one point right ... you probably have some edgy programs installed that apt doesn't want to downgrade. Perhaps if you were to do a apt-get dist-upgrade, maybe.	08:44
Rossco	How do I make myself a superuser so I don't have to tpye in sudo -s everytime?	08:45
shinigami	ok.	08:45
shinigami	i'll do a dist-upgrade	08:45
dwidmann	Rossco: running as root all the time would be like walking around naked.	08:45
dwidmann	just one of those things that I woudln't recommend doing	08:45
maziah	hrm maybe there isnt a multithreading package manager ;/	08:45
Rossco	Lol, ok	08:46
Rossco	For what reasons?	08:46
vytautas	its not that bad to walk naked at home	08:46
codyt	haha	08:46
maziah	gets cold awfuly quick ;>	08:46
mefisto__	Rossco: leaves you vulnerable, security-wise	08:46
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noiesmo	mefisto__, you'll have to log in recovery mode then do sudo adduser username	08:46
Rossco	lol, k guys BRB - gotta restart X	08:46
dwidmann	maziah, no, there isn't, but you could be downloading multiple packages at the same time, by using multiple mirrors.	08:46
maziah	stink, dpkg alredy does that	08:47
mefisto__	noiesmo: ok thanks, I'll try that	08:47
shinigami	damnit.............still can't after dist-upgrade	08:47
shinigami	URGHH	08:47
noiesmo	mefisto__, np	08:47
shinigami	dwidmann: how do i remove those edgy programs manaully?	08:49
bartist	i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants, any idea?	08:49
vytautas	be nice to her	08:49
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Rossco	Back :)	08:51
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james_	has anybody had any sucess in installing a canon ip1000 within kubunut?	08:55
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kraut	moin	08:57
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Rossco	I need some help installing this thing guys	09:00
Rossco	can anyone help me?	09:00
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Rossco	It's a .tar.gz file	09:01
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cmcguicken	I need some help, i have downloaded a tar.gz file. How do i run and install the program???	09:01
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dwidmann	a .tar.gz file is just a compressed archive, like a zip file, so it depends what is in it ...	09:01
codyt	it's a tarball.	09:01
cmcguicken	so how do i run it>?	09:02
james_	has anybody had any sucess in installing a canon ip1000 within kubunut?	09:02
cmcguicken	its a program	09:02
dwidmann	cmcguicken: there's a strong possibility that you downloaded the source code for a program, what is the program?	09:02
cmcguicken	how do you install programs? it says to do a command but where and how.	09:02
cmcguicken	bombObomb.program-1.0.11.2.tgz	09:03
fuel	i get a message from adept manager saying database for packages is locked........however i am not running any other process......... how do i unlock it	09:03
cmcguicken	and i have a nother one which is tar.gz	09:03
dwidmann	!adeptfix \| fuel	09:03
ubotu	fuel: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	09:03
cmcguicken	so, any help?	09:04
shinigami	i still can't get build-essential ........help	09:04
dwidmann	cmcguicken: well, the first thing you have to do is extract it, you can do this in a terminal, or by using ark	09:04
cmcguicken	yes i have done this	09:04
dwidmann	what files are in the base directory cmcguicken?	09:04
cmcguicken	but there is jusat loads of files	09:04
cmcguicken	loads.	09:04
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stdin	cmcguicken: there is a small guide here for compiling applications https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware	09:05
dwidmann	shinigami, mixing files from different repositories (ie, installing edgy things in dapper) always ends in tears.	09:05
shinigami	urghhhhhhhhh	09:05
Rossco	I'm trying to run this thing	09:06
Rossco	But I need to run it as a superuser	09:06
Rossco	how do I do that? :S	09:06
shinigami	anything i can do to revert besides reinstalling kubuntu?	09:06
dwidmann	if you know which ones they were shinigami you can try to replace them on an as needed basis	09:06
fuel	dwidmann : great it worked ! thanks :)	09:06
cmcguicken	im confused. cant i just run a setup file to install an application??	09:06
codyt	Rossco: using the command "sudo" preferably.	09:06
cmcguicken	like on windows	09:06
shinigami	ok...i need those compilers like gcc..etc	09:07
fuel	cmcguicken : linux is not windows	09:07
codyt	cmcguicken: sometimes, not allways.	09:07
cmcguicken	sorry, i have just switched	09:07
dwidmann	cmcguicken: No, not if you download source code ... which you probably did	09:07
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shinigami	make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory. <-- does it means i don't have those building compilers?	09:07
fuel	after extracting........you should probably run ./configure then make and make install if the folder contains any configure files	09:07
cmcguicken	it has a configure and install files but when i click on them it is just text	09:07
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fuel	yeah goo	09:08
fuel	d	09:08
fuel	now press F8	09:08
fuel	you will get a konsole at the bottom	09:08
cmcguicken	how do you "ron ./configure"	09:08
dwidmann	cmcguicken: I can walk you through it, but you're going to need some patience	09:08
fuel	there type ./configure	09:08
cmcguicken	ok, i have got to go now. have you got email?	09:08
cmcguicken	or i will go back on irc	09:08
dwidmann	First thing you will need to do cmcguicken, is to run this command: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"	09:09
cmcguicken	later. THnks for all the help anyway. ok	09:09
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dwidmann	going so soon? who doesn't have email?	09:09
fuel	x( next time he comes!!!	09:09
codyt	dwidmann: do you devote a lot of time to helping?	09:09
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fuel	codyt : irc is for that only	09:09
dwidmann	codyt: devotes such a strong word, I just kind of do it.	09:10
codyt	understood.	09:10
bartist	i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants -- PLEASE HELP	09:10
dwidmann	codyt: Granted, for not "devoting", that is where _a_lot_ of my time goes	09:11
codyt	dwidmann: I can respect that.	09:12
codyt	I do, rather.	09:12
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codyt	bartist: are you pretty new to linux?	09:13
bartist	we can say so codyt	09:13
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bartist	do you think you have a clue codyt?	09:14
codyt	I struggled to get my soundcard working when I first started using Gentoo, and it can be a pain.	09:14
shinigami	i still can't install build-essential	09:14
shinigami	sigh	09:14
bartist	the strange thing is that my soundcard worked fine on ubuntu dapper	09:14
shinigami	what are the directories that contain the resiporities?	09:14
bartist	and worked a bit on kubuntu edgy	09:14
bartist	then it just stopped to work	09:15
dwidmann	shinigami, as per the packages it said it couldn't install, force in those packages manually. It may be extremely tedious, extremely, but it should let things work.	09:15
codyt	bartist: you might just need to install the appropriate drivers.	09:15
shinigami	how to force?	09:15
bartist	already done	09:15
guglielf	hi * in which dir is the help:/ system located?	09:15
dwidmann	shinigami, /etc/apt/ is where you sources.list is ... /var/cache/apt/archives is where apts cache is, and as for repositories, for most you can just punch in the url and browse it in your browser if needed	09:16
codyt	I'll see if I can find other reports of problems with that soundcard.	09:16
bartist	i have been looking on google for days now	09:17
codyt	bartist: do you know if you're using ALSA, OSS, ESD?	09:17
bartist	it's set on autodetect, so i guess its alsa	09:17
bartist	the most frustriating is that it worked 2 days ago	09:18
bartist	then i rebooted	09:18
bartist	and nothing!!!	09:18
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codyt	hasn't worked at all since?	09:20
shinigami	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	09:20
shinigami	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	09:20
shinigami	what's this???????	09:20
shinigami	nvmind	09:21
shinigami	got it	09:21
shinigami	if i get apt-get source build-essential	09:21
shinigami	what shd i do next	09:21
bartist	no it hasn't, i even made a fresh install	09:22
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codyt	what are you testing the sound with?	09:23
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codyt	I'm seeing some posts where all the person had to do was install the alsa-libs, alsa-drivers and alsa-tools packages.	09:24
james_	is there a way to default video resalution without plugging a monitor in?	09:24
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startswithz	what program do you guys use for peer to peer downloading?	09:25
dwidmann	shinigami, why would you want to build from source?	09:26
dwidmann	I mean, build build-essential from source ....	09:26
dwidmann	it's just a metapackage anyway ...	09:26
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codyt	startswithz: you might try searching sourceforge, or linux.softpedia.com	09:26
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death2xp	.	09:26
shinigami	ok i'm gg crazy.. just need those build tools to compile something	09:26
shinigami	make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory. <-- means i need to install build-essential ??	09:27
Rob-West	can someone help me setup MAME in KDE	09:27
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dwidmann	anyway, shinigami, the easiest way to fix your problem is either reinstall, or to either upgrade to edgy, or to reinstall dapper.	09:28
dwidmann	If you have a seperate /home partition then that would be good, if you can backup your list of installed packages that would be good too	09:29
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shinigami	ok	09:30
shinigami	i guess i'll upgrade to edgy	09:30
shinigami	damnit........	09:30
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Rob-West	edgy rocks	09:31
shinigami	hey	09:31
codyt	edgy rocks could be dangerous.	09:31
death2xp	ouch	09:31
dwidmann	hahahaha	09:31
shinigami	to upgrade to edgy i just need to change the sources.list from dapper to edgy and do update upgrade and dist-upgrade?	09:31
Rob-West	im using Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy	09:32
linux_	hey guys have someone experience to install a free navigation system on PDA ?	09:32
linux_	or some good links	09:32
death2xp	i use destinator pns	09:32
death2xp	not free but dl from torrentz	09:33
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ForgeAus	you can't... erm.. debianize zipslack can you?	09:34
ForgeAus	or can you install kubuntu into a fat32 drive?	09:34
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dwidmann	shinigami, that should work	09:36
dwidmann	I don't think you can install kubuntu on a fat32 partition ForgeAus	09:37
dwidmann	and even if you could, why use an antiquated partition format like fat32?	09:37
codyt	not without reformatting the partion, I don't think.	09:37
d0dge	Any suggestions how to uninstall nvidia drivers?	09:38
d0dge	I've installed them two or three times and now I need to uninstall all of them	09:38
shinigami	hope it works..its updating now	09:38
d0dge	Should I search 'nvidia' folders and delete them all, manually?	09:38
noiesmo	!envy \| d0dge	09:38
ubotu	d0dge: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy	09:39
shinigami	so..meanwhile care to tell me the differences between..dapper and edgy	09:39
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shinigami	!edgy	09:39
ubotu	Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes	09:39
d0dge	noiesmo: Ok, thanks	09:39
noiesmo	d0dge, it can also uninstall drivers check the k=link	09:39
dwidmann	d0dge, the nvidia installer doubles as the uninstaller, , something like ./blahblahblah.bin --uninstall should work	09:39
d0dge	Ok I'll try that	09:39
d0dge	Because, last time I installed them, nvidia drivers worked, but now X server crashes every time I reboot	09:40
d0dge	So I need to use 'nv' driver or 'vesa'	09:40
dwidmann	d0dge, give envy a shot first ... it's a great piece of work :)	09:40
d0dge	Roger	09:41
BlueDevil	is firefox2 in any dapper repos?	09:41
dwidmann	if it i s, it would be in dapper-backports or dapper-security	09:41
codyt	d0dge: as a "quick fix" you can revert to the previous xorg.conf that hastn' been touched by the install yet.	09:41
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d0dge	codyt: Yeah I've done that..	09:41
codyt	Sorry.	09:42
d0dge	'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and then 'nv' drivers	09:42
d0dge	It works, but when I select nvidia and reboot, It doesn't :(	09:42
[StingRay]	Hi, stdin :)	09:42
d0dge	But I'll try envy	09:42
stdin	hay [StingRay] :)	09:43
BlueDevil	dwidmann: in the wiki it says it's available in backports for dapper, but can't find it	09:44
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[StingRay]	stdin, I successfully remapped the keyboard layouts ;)	09:44
stdin	[StingRay] : cool, so you finally have everything working now?	09:45
dwidmann	Blue devil, do you have the dapper-backports repository enabled?	09:45
[StingRay]	Hot exactly, stdin. I am very displeased with wine's window handling. Some of the windows are not visible on alt-tab funcion, the order windows are opened is a mess :(.	09:45
[StingRay]	stdin, I have reeducate the users...	09:46
dwidmann	d0dge, you _have_ to use nvidia-xconfig to reconfigure x to use nvidia, otherwise it just plain won't work.	09:46
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stdin	[StingRay] : so can you sleep at night now, without worrying about users fscking up :P	09:47
BlueDevil	dwidmann: yes	09:47
[StingRay]	:D, stdin. There are no night shifts, so sleeping is fine.	09:48
dwidmann	BlueDevil, and you've apt-get updated, then apt-get install firefox, or perhaps firefox2 (or something), whatever they felt like calling the package	09:48
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BlueDevil	dwidmann: i've used synaptic, but yes, those were the actions	09:49
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[StingRay]	I will carry out some tests to see how gnome handles the windows..., stdin	09:49
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stdin	[StingRay] : eww, gnome :P	09:50
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dwidmann	I'm not sure then bluedevil ... I upgraded to edgy right after it was released	09:52
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dwidmann	in fact, I'm preparing to make an early move to feisty now ...	09:52
BlueDevil	np, thanks for the help	09:52
[StingRay]	stdin,...my first impressions were on ubuntu...will keep you informed about the progress ;)	09:52
codyt	dwidmann: what are the major differences?	09:53
dwidmann	as usual, updated software	09:53
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stdin	[StingRay] : it sounds like an interesting project, you could maybe put the steps on the ubuntu wiki :)	09:53
dwidmann	I'm not sure what all else is in the works, I'm sure there is something though	09:54
caris_mere	Can somebody help me with a few QT questions?	09:54
codyt	I'll have to look into it later.	09:54
dwidmann	caris_mere, I can try	09:54
caris_mere	dwidmann: thanks. There are a few programs I would like that require QT4, but I think I only have QT3...	09:55
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caris_mere	dwidmann: Can I upgrade? Is it easy? Any tips?	09:56
dwidmann	caris_mere, it's easy if you're using edgy, might not be on dapper though	09:56
caris_mere	dwidmann: I'm using dapper	09:57
dwidmann	I think what needs to be installed are the libqt4* packages	09:57
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dwidmann	If you see them on dapper then it will be easy, on the other hand, if you don't see them, it'll be more difficult	09:58
ramanuj_	vbetool[4182] :segfault at 00000000000054d1 rip oooooooooo4256f3 rsp	09:58
ramanuj_	this mesg is coming every time my system is booting up	09:58
ramanuj_	this mesg is coming every time my system is booting up	09:59
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ramanuj_	what may be the reason	09:59
stdin	afaik you just need "libqt4-core" "libqt4-gui" "libqt4-sql" and probably "libqt4-qt3support" to get Qt4 on dapper	09:59
[StingRay]	stdin, it would be a good idea if there were not so many workarounds...it is not professional. I cannot explain to the users why xmodmap under tightvnc is mapping the wrong keys...and etc.	09:59
dwidmann	caris_mere, to figure it out, search for libqt4 in adept, or use apt-cache search libqt4	09:59
caris_mere	dwidmann: They are in adept. Do I need to uninstall qt3 first, or can I just install qt4?	09:59
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dwidmann	stdin: probably, I figured core and gui at the least	09:59
dwidmann	caris_mere: NO	10:00
dwidmann	caris_mere, in fact, that could really cause problems to try to remove that	10:00
caris_mere	dwidmann: I figured	10:00
codyt	caris_mere: many packages may rely specifically on qt3 as apposed to qt4	10:00
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caris_mere	Can I have both?	10:00
stdin	caris_mere: yes, you can have both installed	10:01
caris_mere	ah, ok, So I can just install them now and things might work? :-)	10:01
dwidmann	Feisty changes: it looks like ubiquity has been ported to qt4, zeroconf is enabled by default, more systemsettings changes, some more changes in default applications ... password boxes use bullets instead of asterisks, changes to power management	10:01
dwidmann	caris_mere: yep	10:01
caris_mere	dwidmann: thanks	10:02
caris_mere	thanks everybody	10:02
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caris_mere	One more questions, do I need libqt4-qt3support?	10:03
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stdin	I think that just allows Qt3 apps to run on Qt4, so it may not be needed	10:05
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caris_mere	ok, I won't install it	10:05
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mefisto__	noiesmo: still have my login problem. I created a new user, no different. BUT when I tried to use apt-get, got an error about my sources.list, which turned out to be junk contents, not text. Probably has happened to other files too (when I first ran fsck it "fixed" lots of files)	10:14
noiesmo	mefisto__, maybe the hdd had a major failure maybe get manufacture diagnoics tool for hdd ad test your drive	10:18
noiesmo	mefisto__, had a drive crap out was replaced under warranty	10:19
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mefisto__	is there a way to reinstall installed packages with apt-get?	10:19
noiesmo	mefisto__, yes apt-get install --reinstall packagename	10:20
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mefisto__	yes but which packages? can I do something like -reinstall all (to reinstall whatever is already installed)?	10:21
noiesmo	mefisto__, no there's no way I know to just apt-get everypackage	10:21
mefisto__	can apt-get list installed packages?	10:22
noiesmo	you can do dpkg-query -l to ge a list of packages installed	10:22
mefisto__	OK thanks	10:22
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usemody	good morning @all	10:24
noiesmo	mefisto__, np good luck	10:24
usemody	need help .......by initializing ircservices 4 my fresh installed ircd-ircu server	10:24
mefisto__	any other advice, other than reinstalling kubuntu?	10:25
usemody	how can i become on that memoserv chanserv and nickserv	10:25
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noiesmo	mefisto__, you could rebuild otherwise a reinstall did you do a seperate user home partiton when you installed	10:27
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mefisto__	noiesmo: yes, separate home partition	10:27
mefisto__	what do you mean by "rebuild"?	10:28
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noiesmo	mefisto__, get in recovery mode and then just reinstall major packages such as X Gnome etc	10:29
mefisto__	noiesmo: I have little idea which packages are major ones. Is there a list I can refer to somewhere?	10:30
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mefisto__	noiesmo: I might try reinstalling X first. Is that "xserver-xorg" ?	10:31
noiesmo	mefisto__, no list and yes do xserver-xorg	10:31
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mefisto__	noiesmo: I have dapper installed. what if I try to upgrade to edgy? Is it worth trying with apt-get? Or is it likely to cause more headaches than it solves?	10:33
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noiesmo	mefisto__, that might be the go you got headaches now with install	10:34
noiesmo	mefisto__, i upgrade from dapper to edgy no maor drama	10:35
noiesmo	mefisto__, had to reinstall nvidia but other than that no reall probs	10:35
mefisto__	noiesmo: can I use apt-get to upgrade from edgy cd, rather than download everything?	10:35
noiesmo	mefisto__, not 100% I normally just use the net	10:36
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mefisto__	noiesmo: how much free space would I need?	10:37
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intelikey	anybody know what device node this would be ? Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?	10:38
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noiesmo	mefisto__, prob about a gig as packages will be replaced	10:38
intelikey	burned is scd0 scsi address is 0,4,0 ?	10:39
intelikey	burner that is.	10:39
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intelikey	?	10:40
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larson9999	is flash 9 final in the repositories yet?	10:40
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intelikey	!flash	10:41
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	10:41
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intelikey	!flash9	10:41
ubotu	flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports	10:41
intelikey	don't know is if it's "final" or not.	10:41
intelikey	anyone know what the raw device node would be for dev/scd0 ?	10:42
intelikey	is it sg something ?	10:42
intelikey	i'm thinking sg help me out here...	10:43
larson9999	intelikey: sure. i have that installed but it's not the final version. at least it wasn't	10:43
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intelikey	hope it's not sr0 heh that's just a symlink to scd0 ...	10:45
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codyt	hmm, no IP masking..	10:45
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gnarlie	how usable is feisty herd 2?	10:48
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codyt	is a fresh install of kubuntu likely to get exploited/hacked/etc?	10:50
ForgeAus	codyt? how/why would it?	10:51
stdin	nope, not a chance in hell :P	10:51
codyt	haha	10:52
codyt	Well, I'm pretty new to linux.	10:52
ForgeAus	linux isnt like XP	10:52
codyt	I've only had my linux box connected to the internet for about a month now.	10:52
codyt	I've noticed. (:	10:52
stdin	a fresh install is _extremely_ secure	10:52
ForgeAus	its less spyware/virus prone	10:52
stdin	less = immuse	10:53
codyt	my XP lags when I right-click on my desktop. (I keep it for my mom)	10:53
codyt	she's far from being tech-savvy, and doesn't like change.	10:53
jason_	I have my pc set up so it dual boots windows and kubuntu, but a couple days ago windows totaly screwed up, how would i uninstall it and reinstall it? repairing it doesnt do anything, so i need to delete the partion, but i dont know whitch one is kubuntu and witch one is windows, how could i find out?	10:53
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justin_	hello, anyone can help me?	10:54
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codyt	justin_, you'll have to be a little more specific.	10:55
stdin	hey jason_ :)	10:55
justin_	my wireless USB adapter always goes to sleep	10:55
justin_	hello, codyt	10:55
codyt	mm, I'm not the right guy for that one.	10:55
stdin	jason_: open Konsole and use this command to see "sudo fdisk -l"	10:56
jason_	ok	10:56
justin_	it will be down after a while non-attended, and I cannot bring it up	10:56
stdin	jason_: the windows one will have "NTFS" by it, ie not the Linux or "Linux swap / Solaris"	10:57
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justin_	the green LED on the adapter normally shows green when it's active	10:57
justin_	but when it's down, no LED at all.	10:57
jason_	is that -l or -1?	10:57
stdin	lower case L	10:58
justin_	the problem is I used every method I know to bring it up, but nothing happened.	10:58
jason_	ok, thx	10:58
justin_	thanks codyt anyway	10:58
gnarlie	anyone using feisty herd 2?	10:58
codyt	sorry I couldn't be of help.	10:58
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stdin	gnarlie: yep	10:58
gnarlie	stdin: how is it?	10:58
gnarlie	any critical bugs?	10:58
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stdin	gnarlie: it's quite stable for me (tm), but you should remember it's still alpha and can break at any time :P	10:59
gnarlie	=)	10:59
justin_	Knnten Sie mich helfen	10:59
jason_	its the first one,	11:00
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ForgeAus	you trademarked yourself?	11:00
jason_	i'll do it tomorrow, its 2am here	11:00
jason_	thx	11:00
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stdin	ForgeAus: no, the "for me" part :P	11:01
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ForgeAus	IC	11:01
nate_	so ive just installed edgy, and theres only 1000 items a availible? in dapper i had over 18000	11:02
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mineur	!samba	11:02
ubotu	samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	11:02
ForgeAus	nate perhaps the repositories you were using?	11:03
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stdin	nate_: enable your repositories	11:03
stdin	!repos	11:03
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	11:03
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justin_	anyone can help me with my wireless adaptor	11:03
ForgeAus	hmm pydance for edgy needs to be patched, but its ok with feisty... strange!	11:04
nate_	i have enable all the "standard repos", and i didnt have any other repos in dapper but the standard ones	11:04
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nate_	also, whats this problem	11:04
nate_	he following packages have unmet dependencies:	11:04
nate_	libgtk2.0-0: Depends: libgtk2.0-bin (>= 2.10.6-0ubuntu3) but 2.10.6-0ubuntu1 is installed	11:04
nate_	python-soya: Depends: python-imaging-tk but it is not installed	11:04
nate_	E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.	11:04
ForgeAus	nate, sounds wierd	11:04
nate_	im trying to upgrade and they are the only 2 hicups so far	11:04
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stdin	try "sudo apt-get -f install" in Konsole	11:05
nate_	nate@NATIOUS:~$ apt-get -f install	11:05
nate_	E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)	11:05
nate_	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?	11:05
stdin	^^sudo	11:05
nate_	oh yep now its working	11:05
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nate_	thanks, do you have any good how too's to get beryl working i have a nvidia 7900GS 512mb	11:06
ForgeAus	the su in sudo stands for superuser right?	11:06
ForgeAus	nate, theres a repository for beryl	11:06
stdin	SuperUserDO :)	11:06
nate_	yep i know about the beryl repo's	11:06
ForgeAus	do? as in the english word do (ie do this do that?)	11:06
rjian	@update kubuntu	11:06
rjian	hmm	11:06
ForgeAus	so instead of being sudo like how you say pseudo, its sudo as in soodoo!...	11:07
rjian	wats the command on the bot?	11:07
nate_	i could never get beryl to work indapper, somone in here suggested using edgy, so here i am, ive update/upgraded, now where do i go?	11:07
stdin	ForgeAus: yep "do" as in "let's do it"	11:07
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nate_	is this safve to use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851	11:07
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stdin	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl << in that order	11:08
nate_	i breifly read somewhere i dont need xgl with edgy and nvidia?	11:09
stdin	nate_: I theink it depends where you got the driver from	11:09
nate_	i havnt downloaded any driver yet	11:10
ForgeAus	xgl or um agx orwhatever the other tla is	11:10
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ForgeAus	edgy does have something inbuilt but its not xgl or something...	11:10
nate_	the only sucess with my card ive had is if i download the driver using the envy script (this is in dapper) nvidia-glx dud	11:10
stdin	nate_: I know the download from nvidia can use AIGLX, but I don't think the ubuntu package can use it yet	11:10
ForgeAus	ahh thats it AIGLX	11:10
ForgeAus	wait thats not a tla tho! my bad! rofl	11:11
nate_	nvidia-glx never worked for me	11:11
nate_	it installs, but nothing changes	11:11
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stdin	nate_: you have to enable it	11:11
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naser	hello	11:11
naser	i need help	11:11
naser	somebody can help me in kubuntu ???	11:12
stdin	don't know until you ask	11:12
ForgeAus	nasser, what about kubunutu?	11:12
mindspin	!ask	11:12
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	11:12
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stdin	!someone	11:12
ubotu	A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	11:12
nate_	is there a 686smp kernel for edgy?	11:12
stdin	nate_: the -generic kernel is what you want	11:13
nate_	i have a core duo	11:13
nate_	laptop	11:13
stdin	nate_: yep, the -generic kernel id what you want	11:13
stdin	!generic	11:13
ubotu	Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)	11:13
naser	i have kubuntu and want to install source packages	11:13
nate_	686smp ripped the standard 386 in dapper	11:14
naser	all the packages need a lot of things like qt3 c++ gcc ...	11:14
naser	how i can install software in easy was ??	11:14
codyt	is either AMD or Intel "better" for running linux as a desktop?	11:14
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stdin	nate_: the 686 and the smp kernels are all part of the -generic one now	11:14
stamen	!3gp	11:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:14
stamen	hi	11:14
stdin	!compile \| naser	11:14
ubotu	naser: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	11:14
stamen	who can recomend me a program which converts 3gp	11:14
ForgeAus	nasser easiest way is if its available under ADEPT to do it that way...	11:15
ForgeAus	it will fill in the dependancies and load them for you...	11:15
nate_	oh ok, so im already using it by default, or is there somthing where i have to select it?	11:15
stamen	to somthing playable in linux and win	11:15
nate_	is there a terminal command to see what kernel im using	11:15
stamen	and the program ocourse must be used in linux	11:15
ForgeAus	but if its a customized package, you may have to install dependancy bits, and then the package afterwards...	11:15
stdin	nate_: no, it configures itself automatically :)	11:15
stdin	nate_: uname -r	11:15
naser	thank you ForgeAus very mush	11:15
naser	and thank all	11:16
nate_	nate@NATIOUS:~$ uname -r	11:16
nate_	2.6.17-10-generic	11:16
nate_	it seems to load slower at the start than in dapper	11:16
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stdin	nate_: the -generic kernel is for any processor, 386, 686, k7, smp ....	11:17
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nate_	are there any tweaks/mods i can do to speed things up?	11:17
ForgeAus	lol you could always go lunar linux and run through menu-driven kernel modifications! rofl	11:17
stdin	nate_: it detects the processor you have and configured itself automatically at boot	11:17
ForgeAus	but that takes a long time and asks questions that are quite.. um high-end and so many of them it gets annoying as hell	11:17
nate_	hrmm, well i guess ill give beryl ago now, have you got it working (stdin)	11:18
ForgeAus	beryl uses 2 keys I can't use from in VMware	11:19
ForgeAus	control+alt (together)	11:19
stdin	nate_: yeah, I have AIGLX and Beryl working great on an Intel chip :)	11:19
ForgeAus	I could always alter the keycombos tho	11:19
naser	all the ubuntu packages working in kubuntu ??	11:19
nate_	as in intel gmaXXXX or intel cpu?	11:19
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naser	all the ubuntu packages working in kubuntu ????	11:20
stdin	nate_: Intel GPU (graphics chip)	11:20
mineur	naser: yes :)	11:20
stdin	naser: Kubuntu IS Ubuntu, just with KDE instead of Gnome, all the packages are the same	11:20
ForgeAus	naser for that sense ubuntu = kubuntu	11:20
mineur	ForgeAus: those keys are configurable	11:20
nate_	should i nvidia-glx in adpet, or use the envy script? or eventualy they are both the same?	11:21
ForgeAus	mineur yeah I know...	11:21
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naser	an what the different things between edry and dapper and ... ??	11:21
naser	edgy**	11:22
ForgeAus	naser they're just versions	11:22
stdin	nate_: the ubuntu package will be updated when the kernel is updated, with the envy script you will have to recompile it everytime you get a kernel update, if you are comfortable with it, then use that, if not then go with the ubuntu package	11:22
ForgeAus	earlier there were ones like badger, now its dapper drake -> edgy eft -> fiesty herd...	11:22
mineur	and for the one concerned about beryl... I got Beryl with aiglx on an intel 855 graphical chip	11:22
administrator__	hello all	11:22
nate_	are there any diffecenes, do they end up installing the same driver?	11:23
ForgeAus	its like windows codemanes like cairo whistler memphis	11:23
stdin	nate_: the envy one is more up-to-date	11:23
mineur	nate_: there's no difference, just a different window manager... but that's not the core of your OS :)	11:23
nate_	so what do you recommend then	11:23
mineur	just a matter of preference	11:23
mineur	look at some screenshots	11:24
mineur	see what you like best.. gnome or kde	11:24
mineur	personally I'm a kde fan :)	11:24
ForgeAus	me 2	11:24
ForgeAus	xfce is another option (ie xubuntu)	11:24
stdin	KDE RICKS!! :)	11:24
nate_	i like KDE, but ive made a move from osx86 and XP	11:24
stdin	ROCKS :P	11:24
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ForgeAus	osx86 I have yet to get into	11:25
mineur	so I'd suggest kubuntu, especially if you're not experienced	11:25
ForgeAus	I'm looking towards it at some point tho	11:25
mineur	kde just looks better imho :d	11:25
ForgeAus	kubuntu is mostly easy and fun	11:25
stdin	I like to customise the c**p out of my desktop, so I go with KDE :P	11:25
mineur	true, everything worked out of the box here on my laptop	11:25
ForgeAus	yeah I agree mineur xfce is minimal but a bit less user-friendly	11:25
mineur	I used to have fluxbox on my debian	11:26
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mineur	that's minimal hehe	11:26
ForgeAus	fluxbox, enlightenment, amiwm... they're all kewl	11:26
ForgeAus	in their own ways	11:26
naser	i want c compiler to make console software what i have to do ??	11:26
ForgeAus	IceWM is another	11:26
stdin	enlightenment is a kool WM	11:26
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ForgeAus	yeah	11:26
ForgeAus	its kinda strange	11:27
ForgeAus	very configurable tho	11:27
stdin	naser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware	11:27
ForgeAus	currently I like how small/simple/useful amiwm is	11:27
ForgeAus	emulates the commodore Amiga workbench	11:27
codyt	I haven't really tried a distro that I didn't like.	11:27
mineur	naser: install the gcc packet and you're set	11:27
ForgeAus	WindowMaker is also ok	11:27
codyt	Then again, I've only tried LinSpire, Gentoo, and Kubuntu.	11:27
stdin	mineur: what about make, g++, cpp ........?	11:28
ForgeAus	LinSpire is ok its much like kubuntu's kde interface	11:28
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mineur	I started with redhat... 5.2 or 5.1 I think... stayed with it until 6.something then I went on to other distro's :d	11:28
ForgeAus	because it uses kde itself	11:28
snowrichard	had linspire pre-installed on a computer I got from walmart once. Dumped it for Mandriva I think	11:28
ForgeAus	and both are based on debian	11:28
mineur	stdin: don't they come with the gcc packet?	11:28
codyt	Yeah. I'd probably prefer Kubuntu because LinSpire reminded me of Windows.	11:28
ForgeAus	but kubuntu is more a ubuntu debian than linspires debian	11:29
ForgeAus	lol I don't mind windows...	11:29
stdin	mineur: no, you just install build-essential it installs them all	11:29
ForgeAus	mandriva is one I want to try	11:29
ForgeAus	too big to d/l tho :(	11:29
snowrichard	you can do a net install	11:29
snowrichard	boot.iso	11:29
codyt	I don't mind windows when I'm the only one who uses it.	11:29
larson9999	ForgeAus: commodore! nothing wrong with that. i'll check it out	11:29
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codyt	in my absense, my family members and others tend to get plenty of spyware adware and etc	11:30
ForgeAus	larson9999 yeah nothing wrong with it but its pretty simplistic/featureless/unconfigurable	11:30
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mineur	I'm stuck with windows on my desktop, for my master thesis, need to develop software for windows mobile :)	11:30
ForgeAus	not much you'd need to configure/change about it but still	11:30
mineur	but once that's done, kubuntu on my dekstop!	11:31
snowrichard	my family and friends call me to fix their windows systems. One of my friends had messed hers up again and had also scratched the windows disk I gave her. I gave her debian this time. :)	11:31
ForgeAus	i wish I could make my zipslack a kubuntu install instead!	11:31
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snowrichard	she's using Open Office and she can get on the net	11:31
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codyt	My linux box outperforms my windows box, and my windows box has better specs.	11:32
snowrichard	and play her slot machine games so shes happy	11:32
ForgeAus	slot machine games?	11:32
codyt	But, the windows box has spyware and such that hogs resources.	11:32
ForgeAus	which ones does linux have?	11:32
snowrichard	its a java net app	11:32
ForgeAus	oh IC	11:32
snowrichard	freeslots.com or something	11:32
mineur	wish I could get my family to use linux.... would save me alot of time on the phone and such	11:32
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ForgeAus	I might check it out sometime	11:33
ForgeAus	my mother will love you for it :)	11:33
mineur	btw, is there an alternative for karamba?	11:33
larson9999	mineur: i solved that problem by charging for windows support but not linux support(for family that is)	11:33
codyt	mineur, I agree with you there. Been trying to get my mom to start using my box.	11:33
codyt	lol	11:33
rjian	administrator__: its me sevilla u can ask question here..	11:33
snowrichard	my mom installs her own hardware now	11:34
codyt	I wish I could say that.	11:34
administrator__	test	11:34
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codyt	I can't even get my mom to install a PCI card.	11:34
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ForgeAus	lol	11:34
stdin	my mother doesn't know what a mother board is :P	11:34
snowrichard	she's got a Doctorate in Education, she didn't just fall off the turnip truck. She's retired now	11:34
mineur	I can't even hand a screwdriver to my mom to get the case open.... so not letting her touch anything :)	11:34
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ForgeAus	someone should make a live CD of an enlightenment-based ubuntu... or a fluxbox ubuntu ... or a windowmaker ubuntu lol ...	11:35
ForgeAus	wubuntu?	11:35
larson9999	for hardware i just go there and watch them as i tell them what to do. if they'd rather be the one watching, i charge for my time. :)	11:35
mineur	lol	11:35
codyt	haha	11:35
ForgeAus	eubuntu sounds too confusing with edubuntu tho	11:36
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codyt	I've tried enlightenment, but I don't care for the feeel	11:36
codyt	haven't tried windowmaker or fluxbox, though.	11:36
ForgeAus	it took me a long time to get used to enlightenment	11:37
codyt	Yeah, it's very different.	11:37
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codyt	I did like some of it's features, but not the general feel.	11:37
ForgeAus	and even then I didn't have any apps installed that it seemed to notice... so all I was doing was configuring enlightenment itself	11:37
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mineur	before fluxbox I did use enlightenment, but if I'd go back now, I'd have to learn everything again	11:37
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larson9999	i like the look and feel of windows. so i configure everything to look like it. my xbuntu box looks pretty much like my kde box	11:38
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mineur	and with kde I can let someone else chek their mail on my pc, it's a more familiar look	11:38
ForgeAus	kde can be very windows-like	11:38
codyt	Yeah.	11:38
ForgeAus	or very OSX-like! lol	11:38
naser	clear	11:38
mineur	at least you don't have to klick start to shut it down :p	11:39
larson9999	actually, it's more that i'm used to it. i don't see the need to move stuff for the sake of moving it.	11:39
ForgeAus	I like how you can put the menus up the top of the screen like MacOS	11:39
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ForgeAus	lol mine I always thought that was strange too	11:39
ForgeAus	also FILE menu's	11:39
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ForgeAus	they should be application or program menus mostly	11:39
codyt	Meh, I'm picky about things using up space on my desktop.	11:39
larson9999	ForgeAus: and i like how you can leave them at the bottom :)	11:39
codyt	Have my panels set to be hidden.	11:40
ForgeAus	sure you SAVE or LOAD or OPEN a file... but you don't necessarily EXIT a file to close the program	11:40
one	why doesnt work ssl on this irc server ?	11:40
naser	i try to use klik software (to install software in one click) but i cant install any software :S	11:40
mineur	you're telling big secrets here one? :)	11:40
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larson9999	funny, on the mainframe i like the command line at the top	11:40
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one	mineur it is my fault or does the server doesnt support ssl ?	11:41
mineur	yay another Belgian guy :p	11:41
Linux_Galore	I cant seem to get libqt2-mt-dev to install	11:41
mineur	it's the server I guess	11:41
codyt	I keep my konsole borderless, streched across the bottom of the screen just above my main panel	11:41
Linux_Galore	keeps running me around in circles	11:41
pip`	Belgium ROCKS	11:41
naser	i try to use klik software (to install software in one click) but i cant install any software :S	11:41
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naser	how can i install it ??	11:41
one	hehe	11:41
mineur	sometimes :)	11:41
stamen	!hlurm	11:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about hlurm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:42
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stamen	what was the program for console to see the network badth	11:42
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Linux_Galore	apt keeps complaining about mesa libs then I look at the libs and the repo seems to have conflicts in file version	11:42
Linux_Galore	s	11:42
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codyt	any recommended IRC clients aside from Konversation and XChat?	11:44
mineur	kopete?	11:45
one	gaim ?	11:45
larson9999	Linux_Galore: libqt2-mt-dev doesn't even show for me when i do apt-cache search libqt. only 3 and 4	11:45
snowrichard	irssi	11:45
codyt	IRC-specific.	11:45
codyt	Ooo, i had forgotten about irssi	11:45
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Linux_Galore	larson9999: libqt3-mt-dev no one uses qt2 anymore	11:46
larson9999	Linux_Galore: actually only libqt3-mt-dev when i put in the mt	11:46
larson9999	linux_: oh, you said 2.	11:46
Linux_Galore	larson9999: yeah, but it then complains about mesa, If i look at mesa the dev package doesnt match the common package version	11:46
snowrichard	try updating your package list?	11:47
Linux_Galore	done all that, still getting package version conflicts	11:47
larson9999	Linux_Galore: it installed for me with no probs	11:47
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larson9999	Linux_Galore: which mesa dev package?	11:48
mineur	I wish kopete would extend their dcop interface :(	11:49
Linux_Galore	good example libglu1-mesa is 6.5.1-20060824 libglu1-mesa-dev is 6.5.1-20060817 they conflict for some reason, I cant get qt-mt-dev in because it cant get mesa to match up	11:49
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larson9999	Linux_Galore: both of those packages are installed here, too.	11:52
Linux_Galore	I get libqt3-mt-dev: Depends libglimesa-dev it makes no sense	11:52
Linux_Galore	sorry libg1imesa-dev	11:52
Linux_Galore	grr	11:52
Linux_Galore	sorry libg1mesa-dev	11:52
Linux_Galore	got that installed	11:53
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Linux_Galore	larson9999: second mesa one wont install, spits the dummy	11:54
mineur	is there another msn client then amsn which offers the auto-message feature when someone messages me?	11:55
larson9999	time to make the doughnuts	11:55
mineur	I wanted to make it myself for kopete with a shellscript and dcop... but the dcop interface for kopete doesn't provide enough functionality :(	11:56
Linux_Galore	bloody kubuntu repo has a package conflict, ffs	11:56
Linux_Galore	if youy update the mesa packages make sure the bloody dev ones match	11:56
badth`	donuts??!	11:58
codyt	neat, a debian livecd for PS3	11:59
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cico	jj	12:02
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marion	hallo	12:04
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naser	i install dpkg package (dpkg -i <package name.deb> how to delete this package ??	12:06
naser	???	12:06
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mineur	apt-get remove package	12:07
nate_	alrighty im back and yay i got it working	12:08
nate_	but it only works under 16colours? and its not as smooth as i was hoping :(, i mean i have a killer systems, is there some things im missing	12:08
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ForgeAus	I can't wait till trillian goes astra!	12:10
ForgeAus	if/when it does that is	12:10
naser	the package name is limewire how to delete it /?	12:10
codyt	astra?	12:10
ForgeAus	there may be a linux port then	12:10
codyt	ohhh	12:10
codyt	Yeah.	12:10
codyt	I do like trillian, but it has some bugs.	12:10
nate_	alrighty i got beryl working, but its only working in 16colours, and dosnt seem as smooth as i was hoping this is on edgy using built in AIGXL	12:10
codyt	esp. with file transfer.	12:10
ForgeAus	most of that should be fixed for the astra release but you never know	12:11
ForgeAus	problem is its shareware (there might be a free vers but there WILL be a pay one too	12:11
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codyt	or, in my ex's case, any time she pastes a link, it's broken into pieces, or is random characters.	12:11
codyt	Yeah.. I can't see myself paying so that I can use some pro-only skins.	12:12
codyt	that, and plugins, I think it was.	12:12
ForgeAus	the free version is ok, I just didn't like how it didn't support yahoo profiles thats all	12:13
ForgeAus	the pro version is much more lush I must admit but funtionally aside from plugins, nothing too far wrong with it	12:13
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codyt	Nah, I like it.	12:13
ForgeAus	just some webcam/voice/file transfer stuff doesn't work depending on what network you conenct to	12:13
codyt	didn't pay for it, but I like it.	12:13
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codyt	file transfer was the only thing I had trouble with, but I never really tried mic\|\|cam.	12:14
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crazy_bus	My KDE taskbar crashed and wont reopen. I don't want to reboot and I was wondering what command I could type to load it again	12:17
ForgeAus	kicker?	12:18
ForgeAus	I think thats it	12:18
codyt	I think so.	12:18
ForgeAus	but no guarantees it wont crash again	12:18
crazy_bus	thanks it loaded	12:18
drarem	can i set up my kubuntu laptop to have a static IP?	12:18
ForgeAus	drarem probably	12:19
drarem	192.168.xx.xx	12:19
ForgeAus	in system settings somewhere	12:19
ForgeAus	if theres no network settings its probably int eh advanced section you'll need administrator mode to CHANGE anything tho	12:19
mineur	of course drarem in system settings	12:20
tobi_	I want to copy a folder into another, but I am not the owner. Login as root is not allowed, any idea to handle this prob?	12:20
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mineur	with sudo	12:20
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codyt	if you had sudo access, otherwise you'd have to talk to the administrator.	12:21
codyt	have, not had.	12:21
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tobi_	i can use sudo, but what is the command to copy a folder into another?	12:21
codyt	cp	12:22
stdin	cp -r directory otherdirectory	12:22
codyt	er, yeah.	12:22
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tobi_	thx	12:22
naser	i have a lot of dpkg files and hard to install it-how i can install it automatic ??	12:23
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codyt	use your manpages when you can. "man -k copy" would search for commands that have "copy" in the description.	12:23
stdin	naser: if they are all in 1 directory, you can do this "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"	12:24
tobi_	codyt: i will , thx	12:24
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codyt	np	12:24
tobias_	what is jack lib?	12:24
tobias_	and why does wine wine about it and say my soundcard sucks and I should install jack lib?	12:24
tobias_	:)	12:24
naudy	hello	12:25
tobias_	hello	12:25
tobias_	:)	12:25
naudy	:)	12:25
tobias_	oh Im in the wrong chan	12:25
tobias_	I joined #winehq	12:25
codyt	haha	12:25
codyt	(:	12:25
tobias_	but forgot to change the channel window	12:25
tobias_	:)	12:26
tobias_	I love kubuntu! I got heroes3 to work in wine, until it crashed and wined about jack lib	12:26
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stdin	!find libjack	12:26
ubotu	Found: libjack0.100.0-0, libjack0.100.0-dev, libjackasyn-dev, libjackasyn0	12:26
codyt	stdin, where is that searching?	12:27
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stdin	edgy probably	12:27
codyt	no jacklib in my apt-cache	12:27
stdin	codyt: libjack not jacklib :)	12:28
codyt	oh well.	12:28
codyt	er	12:28
codyt	libjack	12:28
codyt	yeah, I typed it correctly in konsole.	12:28
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stdin	!info libjack0.100.0-0	12:28
ubotu	libjack0.100.0-0: JACK Audio Connection Kit (libraries). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.101.1-1 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 244 kB	12:28
stdin	it's in universe	12:29
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codyt	hrm..	12:29
drarem	..	12:29
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naser	in konsole -i am in /home/user/Desktop - how can i go to /home/user ??	12:29
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ForgeAus	cd ../user	12:29
ForgeAus	wait	12:30
ForgeAus	sorry	12:30
ForgeAus	cd ..	12:30
stdin	naser: "cd" will go to your home dir	12:30
stdin	naser: "cd .." will go one directory up	12:30
codyt	and to think I had been typing "cd ~"	12:30
ForgeAus	(I didn't realize Desktop was under /user/ besides its probably usr...	12:30
stdin	~ = $HOME	12:30
codyt	yeah.	12:30
stdin	you can also do "cd $HOME" :P	12:31
ForgeAus	or cd ~	12:31
codyt	too much work.	12:31
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Christoph_vW	hi	12:31
codyt	hi	12:31
ForgeAus	hey Chris :)	12:31
Christoph_vW	which kernel is kubuntu using?	12:31
Kabal	I've downloaded 7.04 herd2 but install icon on desktop won't work.. install is not started.. anyone know about this?	12:31
stdin	Christoph_vW: depends which version of kubuntu you install	12:31
Christoph_vW	I need a at least 2.6.18.2 or above	12:31
codyt	You can update thte kernel, as well.	12:32
codyt	the*	12:32
stdin	Kabal: #ubuntu+1 for feisty issues	12:32
Christoph_vW	no, I can not update when I can not install	12:32
Kabal	stdin: thanx	12:32
stdin	Edgy has 2.6.17, feisty is on 2.6.20 atm	12:32
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ForgeAus	stdin just curious is there a diff between edgy and edgy eft?	12:33
ForgeAus	or is edgy just short for edgy eft?	12:33
stdin	ForgeAus: just shorter to type :)	12:33
Christoph_vW	2.6.20 should support my hardware	12:33
stdin	like feisty is feisty fawn	12:34
codyt	hrm, edgy universe is in my sources.list	12:34
stdin	dapper = dapper dreke	12:34
ForgeAus	fiesty fawn? I thought it was fiesty herd	12:34
stdin	etc....	12:34
codyt	but no libjack	12:34
stdin	ForgeAus: herd is the code for the alphas	12:34
ForgeAus	at first I thought herd had something to do with hurd!	12:34
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stdin	ForgeAus: the two words always start with the same letter :)	12:35
ForgeAus	yeah in dapper drake and edgy eft they do	12:35
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ForgeAus	so is there going to be a beta of feisty? the release will be fawn?	12:35
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stdin	Feisty Fawn is the full name of Feisty	12:36
codyt	hrm, in my sources.list there's one line that says "edgy main restricted" and another that's "edgy universe"	12:36
codyt	Should the universe be with the other one?	12:36
ForgeAus	you can add multiverse to it too codyt if you want	12:37
stdin	!repos	12:37
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	12:37
Linux_Galore	codyt: you can merge them by making it edgy main restricted universe multiverse	12:37
codyt	but it isn't necessary?	12:37
ForgeAus	no not necessary	12:37
codyt	hrm.	12:38
codyt	Dunno why it's not finding libjack, then.	12:38
codyt	if libjack was in universe.	12:38
ForgeAus	the only necessary bit is the deb reposurl and one of main restricted universe multiverse after it	12:38
ForgeAus	they can be on separate lines or the same one... doesnt matter	12:38
ForgeAus	debsrc is an option too..	12:38
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codyt	Yeah.	12:39
eross	can i disable the touchpad on my laptop	12:39
eross	or reduce the sensitivity	12:39
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ForgeAus	eross that may depend on the laptop you have? I'm not sure	12:39
Linux_Galore	codyt: ok there are 5 seperate core directories edgy, edgy-updates, edgy-backports, edgy-proposed, edgy-security , each on has a sub section called main restricted universe multivers so you should have 5 lines	12:40
eross	gateway	12:40
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ForgeAus	edgy proposed? I didn't know about that one	12:40
eross	7320	12:40
eross	xorg.conf file?	12:41
stdin	you don't need proposed, and it's not always used on releases, only on development versions	12:41
Christoph_vW	I only found one single mirror for feisty... and it is slow as hell	12:41
ForgeAus	hmmm is synaptic (not the package manager) something to do with touchpads?	12:41
Linux_Galore	multiverse*	12:41
stdin	Christoph_vW: ALL the ubuntu mirrors have feisty on them	12:41
Christoph_vW	ForgeAus: yes	12:41
eross	i see a synaptics touchpad, do i just comment out the entire block?	12:42
ForgeAus	maybe eross would benefit from it...	12:42
ForgeAus	eross I suggest you read it before you comment it out	12:42
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ForgeAus	or better yet go into system settings and see if theres input device configuration in there (does the touchpad sensitivity equate to mouse sensitivity? you may be able to manage it there)	12:43
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Linux_Galore	I have two extra lines that i usually add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main and deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free none-free	12:43
ForgeAus	medibuntu?	12:44
Christoph_vW	as far as I can see only the US mirror has feisty	12:44
Linux_Galore	ForgeAus: not so legal codecs	12:44
stdin	Christoph_vW: every ubuntu mirror has feisty, all of them	12:44
Linux_Galore	<cough> dvd <cough>	12:44
ForgeAus	vlc gives you wmv codecks right?	12:45
ForgeAus	grr codecs	12:45
ForgeAus	damn typos	12:45
Linux_Galore	ForgeAus: no thats win32codecs	12:45
stdin	w32codecs provides wmv	12:45
ForgeAus	hmmm I had to install vlc for it to work	12:46
stdin	Kaffeine works with w32codecs	12:46
Christoph_vW	stdin: found in on the UK mirrow too - it is at least 8 times faster - but still slow	12:46
ForgeAus	I tried that... didn't work for some reason	12:46
Linux_Galore	ForgeAus: usually if you have xine xine-extracodecs and mplayer and vlc installed you should be able to play just about anything	12:46
ForgeAus	Linux I do have all them	12:47
ForgeAus	everything works now	12:47
ForgeAus	that I've tried	12:47
stdin	Christoph_vW: trust me here, all the mirrors have it, they all just sync with the main ubuntu one	12:47
codyt	I just unstalled the mplayer's "all-in-one" package.	12:47
Linux_Galore	ForgeAus: only idiots use windows codecs in video rips	12:47
ForgeAus	I went to a site that had a relatively new version wmv file I wanted to see	12:47
Linux_Galore	ForgeAus: they are usually biger than xvid and lower res because it uses so cpu resources	12:48
Linux_Galore	so much*	12:48
ForgeAus	well I can always convert them if I want to d/l or something	12:48
ForgeAus	but all I wanted to do was view	12:48
ForgeAus	its not upt o me WHAT codec they choose to encode it with	12:48
ForgeAus	I just have to have the appropriate one to view it	12:48
codyt	and so many do use wmv.	12:48
Linux_Galore	ForgeAus: I swap stuff with friends and none of them have windows files	12:49
Linux_Galore	codyt: never seen a wmv file yet at a swap meet	12:49
codyt	that's good	12:49
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ForgeAus	I agree its good!	12:49
codyt	but videos online are often in wmv	12:50
Linux_Galore	codyt: got tons of stuff not one with wmv and no one has given me a wmv file in 6 years	12:50
ForgeAus	avi wmv mov avi and asf are formats I've come across commonly	12:50
Linux_Galore	codyt: nope, mostly avi	12:50
ForgeAus	of course divx is implied in there somewhere I'm sure	12:50
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Linux_Galore	avi,mp4,mkv wmv is for nubes	12:50
codyt	hah	12:50
codyt	a	12:50
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codyt	I see more of mp(e)g than anything	12:51
codyt	avi seconds that.	12:51
Linux_Galore	mkv is turning up allot lately	12:51
codyt	not one I'm familiar with.	12:51
Linux_Galore	its used for anime	12:52
codyt	then again, I don't do a whole lot with video, seeing how I have a poor connection.	12:52
ForgeAus	oh yeah I forgot mpg/mpeg	12:52
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ForgeAus	I havn't heard of mkv till now	12:52
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ForgeAus	is that like a cbz cbr -like format for vids?	12:52
codyt	I'd like to find a good resource for OGG files.	12:52
Linux_Galore	codyt: wmv files are larger than most other file formats, so if you have dial up its a crap format to use	12:52
ForgeAus	LG sounds right	12:53
codyt	That may be true, but there aren't always options.	12:53
ForgeAus	I'm no fan of wmv	12:53
ForgeAus	I just needed it for some vids thats all	12:53
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codyt	Oh, agreed.	12:53
Linux_Galore	codyt: dont laugh, most games use ogg for sound these days to avoid license costs	12:53
ForgeAus	cbz and cbr are basically just zip and rar files just for comic books	12:53
codyt	yeah.	12:53
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Linux_Galore	ogg = free	12:53
codyt	Yep.<3	12:53
Linux_Galore	mp3 = licensed	12:53
ForgeAus	is mkv a mpeg or divx or avi or something thats just for anime?	12:54
codyt	ogg sounds better for ripped sound, as well.	12:54
Linux_Galore	ForgeAus: no you get lots of movies that are avi	12:54
codyt	have all my CDs on my hard drive.	12:54
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Linux_Galore	I would say 80% of my stuff now is xvid.avi now	12:55
Christoph_vW	btw. is multimonitor support working with nVidia cards on Linux?	12:55
codyt	Should be.	12:55
Christoph_vW	(two Geforce cards, 3 monitors)	12:55
Linux_Galore	Christoph_vW: yes, bit fidly though	12:55
andreasw	depends on the bitrate	12:55
andreasw	even mp3s can sound transparent if you set the bitrate high enough	12:56
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codyt	Yeah.	12:56
codyt	That is true.	12:56
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Linux_Galore	andreasw: not always, Ive seen people rip 192k that sound like rubbish because the system didnt have enough resources	12:56
andreasw	But I also prefer ogg because I have a portable player which supports ogg vorbis so there is no reason to stay with mp3	12:56
codyt	ogg's still free	12:56
andreasw	Linux_Galore: for lame you need 254kb to make it sound transparent	12:57
codyt	mp3s available for download are often 128kb	12:57
Linux_Galore	yeah, 128k is total rubbish	12:57
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Linux_Galore	people who pay for it are fools	12:57
codyt	plenty of artifacts.	12:57
codyt	haha	12:57
codyt	Well	12:57
codyt	A lot of people can't tell the difference.	12:57
codyt	I got use to CD quality, though. So I can't stand 128kbs mp3s.	12:58
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Linux_Galore	codyt: Ive done that test and they "can", depends on what your using to play the stuff	12:58
codyt	let me rephrase that: Most people I've talked to say they can't tell the difference.	12:58
codyt	my brother, on the other hand, who has a good ear for music, hates mp3s.	12:59
codyt	He'd rather use 52MB .wav files.	12:59
andreasw	It depends on the speakers or headphones if they here a difference or not	12:59
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Linux_Galore	codyt: get a decent 7.1 system with good speakers and play 320k and 128k rips of the same song, trust me the difference is like apples and oranges	12:59
codyt	which he does, but that's just because I haven't got him using FLAC or OGg yet.	12:59
codyt	Linux_Galore, I have no trouble telling the difference with my $120 headphones.	01:00
andreasw	The question is do I always need highest quality?	01:00
Linux_Galore	codyt: I cant stand 128k its sounds flat to me	01:00
codyt	yeah.	01:00
andreasw	when I run I don't need high quality	01:00
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Linux_Galore	160 and Im so so 192k and Im fine	01:01
fr0sted	hello. how can i check if kubuntu does support my processors hyper threading ?	01:01
codyt	I'm a guitarist, and sound quality is everything to me.	01:01
Linux_Galore	320k and Im in heaven	01:01
Linux_Galore	codyt: are you tone sensitive, ie you cant stand sitting there with a speaker not setup properly	01:02
crazy_bus	I downloaded a .swf file and for some reason I can't play it. Can anyone help me watch it?	01:02
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Linux_Galore	when they send me to hell I will spend eternity in front of a Walmart stereo	01:02
codyt	more than likely, but I haven't had a lot of experience with that.	01:02
codyt	hahaha	01:02
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andreasw	fr0sted: well you have to activate it via a boot parameter	01:03
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andreasw	fr0sted: do you use edgy oder dapper?	01:03
fr0sted	edgy is 6.10 ? (6.10 is what i use)	01:03
andreasw	yep	01:03
andreasw	you need a smp kernel too	01:03
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andreasw	thats the generic one in edgy	01:04
PhibreOptix	Hi guys	01:04
PhibreOptix	Anybody know why my ubuntu keeps freezing when I leave it idle?	01:04
andreasw	fr0sted: and you have to put ht=on to the boot options	01:04
codyt	Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)	01:04
codyt	Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)	01:04
fr0sted	andreasw, good question, is there a file that i have to edit ?	01:05
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andreasw	fr0sted: yes /boot/grub/menu.lst there you have to find the line that looks like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash	01:06
andreasw	fr0sted: hda5 could be something else for you	01:06
fr0sted	yes got it	01:07
andreasw	fr0sted: than you append ht=on	01:07
fr0sted	and on the same line with that i add ht=on	01:07
andreasw	fr0sted: behind splash	01:07
fr0sted	okie dokie	01:07
andreasw	yes	01:07
andreasw	Do you have more kernel versions than the generic one?	01:07
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fr0sted	hold on, i will tell u now :)	01:07
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fr0sted	although i dont think so cause thats whta my grub shows , generic only	01:08
andreasw	ok	01:08
andreasw	than you can try your new config by rebooting	01:08
andreasw	and if things go wrong just boot in safe mode	01:08
fr0sted	no its the generic	01:08
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andreasw	ok perfect	01:09
fr0sted	title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic , root (hd1,0) ,kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet splash	01:09
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fr0sted	well then there is recovery mode. but thats not what we need	01:09
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andreasw	yes that is the right kernel	01:10
andreasw	now you only need the ht=on behind splash	01:10
fr0sted	did put it	01:10
fr0sted	next restart will show	01:10
andreasw	ok hopefully we will see us again in a view seconds ^^	01:11
fr0sted	will i see in the proccess table app , like 2 cpus running ?	01:11
fr0sted	ehehehe :) i will reboot later .	01:11
andreasw	I have no idea I don't have a hyperthreading cpu	01:11
fr0sted	ok:)	01:11
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andreasw	I am a poor student with an athlon-xp 2800+ ^^	01:12
PhibreOptix	Anybody know why my ubuntu keeps freezing when I leave it idle?	01:12
intelikey	what would a cdrecord command look like to add a second session to a cdr ?	01:12
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andreasw	PhibreOptix: Sorry I have no idea. Did you check your memory with memtest86+ so we can except a hardware defect	01:13
codyt	Perhaps a bad screen saver?	01:13
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intelikey	PhibreOptix check ps -A x i have see a bug that respawns something repetedly "run away process"	01:14
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andreasw	or maybe powermanagement ;)	01:15
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codyt	making fun?	01:15
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PhibreOptix	andreasw: Yes I did memtest it was fine	01:15
andreasw	PhibreOptix: hmm do you know whether strg + alt + f1 works to change to the console	01:16
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andreasw	PhibreOptix: just want to find out if only the GUI hangs or the hole operating system	01:16
codyt	strg?	01:16
codyt	hrm.	01:16
andreasw	arg ctrl ^^	01:16
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andreasw	in german its called strg ;)	01:16
codyt	Ah.	01:17
PhibreOptix	andreasw: It goes, and then when I type in my username to login, it freezes there aswell before asking for the password	01:17
antonio_	ciao qualcuno usa moblock?	01:17
naser	my Sound Card was working 100% but now i cant play music in my system :S	01:17
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naser	how i repire this problem ?	01:17
andreasw	PhibreOptix: could you find anything in the logs eg /var/log/messages	01:17
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andreasw	!it \| antonio_	01:18
ubotu	antonio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	01:18
naser	my Sound Card was working 100% but now i cant play music in my system :S	01:19
naser	what to do ?	01:19
andreasw	can you use the mixer?	01:19
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naser	yes	01:19
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andreasw	naser: are master and pcm unmuted?	01:20
naser	i dont understand :pcm	01:20
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naser	what mean pcm	01:20
andreasw	its for normal sound playback	01:21
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andreasw	open the mixer and you will see it	01:21
naser	yes	01:21
crazy_bus	I've downloaded a .swf which for some reason wont convert to theora. What is a good player to watch it in?	01:21
andreasw	naser: So both are unmuted?	01:21
naser	yeds	01:21
naser	yes *	01:22
andreasw	naser: Since when do you have the problem?	01:22
codyt	crazy_bus, linux.softpedia.com might have an SWF player listed	01:22
PhibreOptix	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1932/ That's what happens each time before it freezes when it's idle	01:22
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naser	whe i try to play song in xmms or in any playback	01:22
naser	i see this message :	01:22
PhibreOptix	crazy_bus: You could just watch it locally through firefox	01:23
naser	plaease check that :your soundcard is configured properly you have to correct	01:23
simon__	is there any way to recive files with kopete?	01:23
naser	output plugin selected	01:23
simon__	i just get an error	01:23
simon__	k	01:23
andreasw	naser: does sound in amarok work?	01:23
naser	No other program is blocked the soundcard	01:23
naser	xmms -*	01:23
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Synthetic_420	ok, can someone help me please?	01:25
naser	no not amarok it's xmms	01:25
codyt	we can try	01:26
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Synthetic_420	i have ubuntu, but I tried to upgrade to kde	01:26
Synthetic_420	i installed all packages required	01:26
andreasw	naser: yes but test it with amarok whether it works there	01:26
Synthetic_420	that is with KDE tag	01:26
andreasw	naser: or try to use another output plugin in xmms like artsdsp	01:26
naser	i dont have sound not only in xmms but in all the system	01:26
Synthetic_420	and when it starts, the splash screen says Kubntu	01:27
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Synthetic_420	but, it's obviously still gnome	01:27
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Synthetic_420	lil help plz, gettin sick of gnome	01:27
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PhibreOptix	Synthetic_420: At the login screen, there is an option to change which display manager to use, are you sure that you ticket KDE instead?	01:27
codyt	when you're logging in, under "menu" it should have "session type" see if you can select KDE from there	01:28
Synthetic_420	lemme see swiches session	01:28
andreasw	naser: yes but it is strange that you can use the mixer but don't have sound	01:29
Synthetic_420	oh, wait, ugh I hate gnome	01:29
Synthetic_420	brb	01:29
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codyt	might be possible that there is a program running in the background that's locking the sound?	01:30
codyt	one that didn't terminate properly.	01:30
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intelikey	don't try that at home 6	01:31
codyt	:)	01:31
intelikey	but killall blah is not so bad	01:31
codyt	nah.	01:31
codyt	listing the processes first might help.	01:32
intelikey	no need	01:32
intelikey	killall artsd	01:32
intelikey	:)	01:32
codyt	might not be artsd, though.	01:32
Christoph_vW	yay... feisty detected my DVD drive	01:33
intelikey	true. but if it's an app i bet it's using arts "of course i could loose that bet"	01:33
Christoph_vW	and my NIC too :)	01:33
codyt	good point.	01:33
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intelikey	but kill -9 -1 will get it lol >:]	01:34
codyt	-9 -1?	01:34
stdin	so will shutdown -r now	01:34
codyt	haha	01:34
intelikey	yeah but i don't like to reboot	01:35
stdin	init 1 then	01:35
Christoph_vW	but it did not detected my RAID set...	01:35
laz	codyt: brilliant, thank you	01:35
intelikey	killall5	01:35
codyt	what'd I do?	01:35
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Synthetic420	lol	01:35
Synthetic420	codyt: brilliant, thank you	01:35
codyt	oh	01:35
Synthetic420	can't beleive it was that simple	01:36
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Synthetic420	are there any other DEs that ubuntu supports?	01:36
codyt	fluxbox, enlightenment, windowmaker	01:36
codyt	something along those lines.	01:36
Synthetic420	which do you reccomend for a KDE fan?	01:37
codyt	KDE.	01:37
Synthetic420	i'm trying to explore linux	01:37
Synthetic420	been too strict windwos	01:37
intelikey	other than what ? blackbox fluxbox kde icewm fvwm fvwm85 xfce4 twm 'nome .... other than what ?	01:37
codyt	I've used gnome, kde and enlightentment.	01:37
codyt	yeah.. there are a few.	01:38
codyt	Forgot about blackbox, not famliar with most of the others.	01:38
intelikey	list was not exhostive btw	01:38
Synthetic420	ok, lemme ask this, which has good looks, performance, software, wireless support, and battery support?	01:38
andreasw	a little bit offtopic but does someone know an open source shop software?	01:38
Synthetic420	* good battery support	01:38
codyt	Synthetic420, you might just want to look at screenshots of the various window managers	01:38
Synthetic420	ok	01:39
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Christoph_vW	how can I install on a RAID-0?	01:39
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Synthetic420	thx for the help	01:39
codyt	Most of the ones I've looked at, I prefered the look of KDE.	01:39
stdin	Christoph_vW: I think you need to alternate CD for that	01:39
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Christoph_vW	I have it	01:39
Synthetic420	codyt: one last question, are they all supported on PPC also? I'm runnin on an iBook	01:39
codyt	that I'm not sure of.	01:40
drarem	sexcess!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143095	01:40
Christoph_vW	but it displays SCSI1 and SCSI2 in partioning dialog	01:40
Christoph_vW	instead of the Array	01:40
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drarem	synclient TouchpadOff=1	01:40
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Synthetic420	alright, well thanks, I'll take a look and report if i like any	01:40
codyt	alright. (:	01:40
intelikey	anyone burn cd's from the commandline ?	01:40
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codyt	can't say that I have.	01:41
intelikey	was wondering if there was anything i over looked here...	01:42
intelikey	cdrecord -tao -multi -waiti -eject dev=0,4,0 /dev/scd0 -data	01:42
jbasilio	anyone know technical details behind how kubuntu mounts removable media? i've been tracking it like an ioslave but it doesn't appear to use this code	01:42
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Christoph_vW	I am using ICH8R (Intel Matrix RAID) in RAID-0 mode	01:42
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stdin	Christoph_vW: never installed on raid, but found this http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html	01:42
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Christoph_vW	doesn't help here :(	01:43
codyt	Man, I wish I had the money to have a computer with RAID and such.	01:43
codyt	two GeForce cards	01:44
codyt	3 monitors	01:44
codyt	although, I am grateful to have the computer that I do have.	01:44
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SoulKeeper_p	hi all	01:44
codyt	My brother's computer was put together with a bunch of old parts, and barely runs Win98	01:44
Christoph_vW	codyt: I need to work with it - now I have a fast system - but no gcc...	01:45
codyt	I'd really hate to have no gcc...	01:45
Christoph_vW	The only system I managed to install on it was Windows Vista x64 so far - but gcc isn't working on Vista	01:45
codyt	I probably won't even touch a Vista system for a year or so.	01:46
dannybuntu	whats with the vista thing anyway?	01:46
codyt	Mom'll still be using XP (or hopefully linux), and I'll be using my Kubuntu	01:46
dannybuntu	i mean vista is ridiculously expensive	01:47
intelikey	codyt "My brother's computer was put together with a bunch of old parts," this one was too. and as for the "barely runs Win98" hehhe it'll run on this box but why would i ? :)	01:47
jbasilio	codyt: vista is pretty nice actually. a little weird at first but i've been running media center on it with another PC and it never goes down (don't stress it too much)	01:47
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jbasilio	codyt: raid is easy to setup within linux .. software raid that is. maybe "easy" is a bit of an overstatement but it doesn't cost anything except the drive	01:48
codyt	intelikey: I tried to boot up my LiveCDs on it, but I don't think his BIOS supports boot-from CD	01:48
intelikey	:)	01:48
dannybuntu	codyt: now that is old	01:48
codyt	haha	01:48
intelikey	that's what floppys are for	01:48
dannybuntu	codyt: boot from floppy?	01:48
dannybuntu	lol	01:48
codyt	That was going to be my next project.	01:49
codyt	Didn't have the resources available at the time, had just got back home from FL, and all my stuff was still packed in bags.	01:49
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intelikey	all you need is the kernel and initrd.img on the floppy and a syslinux "chainloader"	01:49
intelikey	ah wait. initrd.img on a floppy that's right ubuntu made that impossable	01:50
codyt	yeah, but I wanted a graphical environment for him to use.	01:50
intelikey	the initrd is like 4.5m uncompressed	01:50
codyt	Once I manage to get a job, and save up some money	01:51
codyt	I'll build a new computer for myself, and give him this computer	01:51
intelikey	you'd need somebody else's kernel. can't use a ubuntu kernel and boot from a floppy.	01:51
Christoph_vW	I just found a thread in debian forums about Intel RAID - the only answer was: use Linux software RAID instead	01:51
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Christoph_vW	but then I can not dual boot with Windows anymore	01:51
codyt	I have unpatched kernel sources.	01:52
drarem	I need to format a harddrive with linux and send it to my brother - his went up in smoke - should I send him 6.06 or is 6.10 stable enough	01:52
codyt	From when I updated my Gentoo to 2.6.17	01:52
codyt	back then, I didn't have internet on this box	01:52
codyt	had to move everything with CDRWs.	01:52
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intelikey	2.6.17 and "didn't have internet on this box" eeek	01:53
codyt	hahahaha	01:53
intelikey	that was like, months ago	01:54
codyt	Yes.	01:54
waylandbill	high tech sneaker net. :-D	01:54
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codyt	I couldn't get this box to connect even when it was running windows that had been preconfigured.	01:54
codyt	Never did resolve the issue.	01:54
codyt	I got this box for free, because my brother-in-law thought it was worthless	01:55
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codyt	All the "experts" told him it had a bad powersource..	01:55
intelikey	good price...	01:55
codyt	But, the heatsink onthe processor just needed to be cleaned out.	01:55
codyt	Told him it sounded like it was getting overheated, but he didn't believe me.	01:55
codyt	Runs great now.	01:56
waylandbill	nothing's worthless. you don't know how much it's worth to have a stress reliever and a hammer.	01:56
mebsd	which one is better between dvd and cd version?	01:56
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codyt	He had actually upgraded this a couple of times (outdated now)	01:56
Christoph_vW	the RAID controller should work with dmraid - but how do I use it?	01:57
vytautas	"libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x42", is it fixable?	01:57
vytautas	edgy	01:57
codyt	AMD Athlon XP 1700, 512MB of RAM, 200GB HD space, and a GeForce FX 5200	01:57
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intelikey	codyt computers are "outdated" when they reach the store... if you try to keep up M$ will have you right where they want you.	01:57
codyt	I like that. (:	01:58
stdin	vytautas: no, it means you hardware doesn't support one of the openGL extentions, just ignore it	01:58
vytautas	sad :P	01:58
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stdin	mebsd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-f7a1accd6e8e139773b9b334f964e209b6d9ff84	01:58
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tibbar	!samba tibbar	01:59
ubotu	samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB	01:59
stdin	vytautas: it's no big deal, I get that error	01:59
intelikey	see the folks at M$ believe they should collect $1000.00 from every individule on the planet each year. i disagree. they got my $244.95 and that's all they ever will get from me.	01:59
vytautas	ye, but i have err, "such thing" in blender	01:59
tibbar	!share	01:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:59
vytautas	its not very convenient	01:59
codyt	I can honestly say I've never given any money to M$	01:59
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stdin	codyt: ever bought a PC with windows preinstalled ?	02:00
codyt	The XP box next to me is owned by my mother's boss, technically	02:00
codyt	nope	02:00
codyt	never bought a PC period.	02:00
waylandbill	I was forced to... I give it to compaq and compaq gives it to M$. :-/	02:00
intelikey	codyt you can't say you've been using computers for the last 27 years though can you ?	02:00
codyt	That'd be a neat trick.	02:01
codyt	I'm only 17	02:01
intelikey	ok 20 years from now if you still haven't given M$ anything then you have bragging rights.	02:02
codyt	with what I've learned, though, I won't buy a prebuilt PC unless it's a No-OS, or a preinstalled Linux box.	02:02
waylandbill	they make good input devices, but I bet that work is farmed out.	02:02
xsport	! ! ! =)	02:02
codyt	Even if it's preinstalled linux (probably red hat), I'll probably install the distro of my choice.	02:03
ForgeAus	cyalll trying zipslack outside of VMware	02:03
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jbasilio	codyt: problem is some of the deals for hardware are cheap as hell ... i got a new computer for $300 a year ago ... cheaper than i could build it	02:03
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intelikey	you want a peek at my hardware ?	02:04
jbasilio	codyt: they can lower their costs b/c of all the bundling and OEM stuff they get ... if you wipe and put linux you make out	02:04
jbasilio	codyt: if you buy norton, AOL, etc etc their suppliers make out	02:04
codyt	ick	02:04
jbasilio	codyt: either way it's cheap and dependable hardware and you can still wipe it and put linux on it (and MS still made $$ on the deal)	02:04
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waylandbill	jbasilio: yup	02:05
codyt	I've put some PCs together on paper, and came up with some pretty good ones for low prices	02:05
codyt	Definately cheaper than what I've seen elsewhere.	02:05
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jbasilio	$300 is pretty cheap!!	02:05
codyt	Not to mention I'm very picky, and get to customize it if I build it myself.	02:05
codyt	it is.	02:06
jbasilio	that's always true .. (can be selective)	02:06
intelikey	Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-27-386 \| Distro: Debian/GNU none \| CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor @ 351 Mhz \| Mem usage: 16.5/249.2 MB (7%) \| Swap usage: unavailable \| Disk usage(/dev/dev): 7.5/12.2 GB (61%) \| Uptime: 15 hrs 29 mins 7 secs \| Local Time: 07:06:29 CST \| Connection: Received: 0.0 KB, packets Sent: 0.0 KB, packets \| Users: 0 \| Load: 0.00	02:06
jbasilio	i used to be the same way. but i've changed due to hardware reliability increasing	02:06
intelikey	$244 12 years ago ^	02:06
waylandbill	$500 for my laptop. I wasn't picky and it's all supported under linux... just had to wait a few months.	02:06
jbasilio	that's a great deal! i'd love a laptop .. someday	02:07
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codyt	That's one of the reasons I like the "open" idea so much is the power to change anything that bugs me.	02:07
waylandbill	custom built is hard to get low prices these days. not like it used to be	02:07
mebsd	which live cd is recommend to dl?	02:07
codyt	Hex editors and dissassemblers are no fun.	02:07
Christoph_vW	I always buy new hardware because I need the speed - and always get trouble with Linux :(	02:07
stdin	the kubuntu one	02:08
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mebsd	there is herd 1 and 2	02:08
stdin	mebsd: you want a stable version, dapper or edgy	02:08
jbasilio	mebsd: where are you looking?	02:08
intelikey	!lts	02:08
ubotu	LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.	02:08
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intelikey	!dapper	02:08
ubotu	dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".	02:08
intelikey	!edgy	02:08
ubotu	Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes	02:08
mebsd	i want latest, most update version	02:08
PhibreOptix	!feisty	02:09
ubotu	The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1	02:09
stdin	mebsd: you want edgy then	02:09
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codyt	I like edgy.	02:09
mebsd	i want latest, updated, and stable	02:09
stdin	feisty is a development release and is NOT considered stable	02:09
PhibreOptix	I just wanted to know what it was	02:09
mebsd	where do i get edgy	02:09
dokteurping	how can i register on konversation	02:09
intelikey	"i want latest, updated, and stable" don't ask for much do ya	02:10
stdin	mebsd: http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest	02:10
stdin	!register \| dokteurping	02:10
ubotu	dokteurping: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration	02:10
codyt	(:	02:10
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dannybuntu	hey guys - anybody know why installing nvidia drivers made the fonts annoying for most websites	02:10
codyt	I didn't have any problems like that.	02:10
waylandbill	incorrect dpi probably	02:10
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dannybuntu	the fonts are not only small they are grey	02:11
intelikey	cause most websites are krap ?	02:11
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dannybuntu	intelikey: other than that of course	02:11
codyt	I did have an issue where my nvidia card was causing my box to freeze randomly	02:11
intelikey	oh i don't know then.	02:11
codyt	but I got that resolved.	02:11
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mebsd	hope kubuntu work well with laptop wireless card?	02:12
intelikey	if you want to know how Krappy most web-sites are try w3m or lynx on them	02:12
intelikey	links2 but not in graphical mode	02:13
stdin	elinks	02:13
codyt	then try it on an "IE standard" site.	02:13
intelikey	yeah but not in -g	02:13
intelikey	yep	02:13
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intelikey	ok it's time for my last rounds.	02:14
codyt	Although, I haven't had any problems with any sites in Fx, aside from a few specific microsoft sites.	02:14
intelikey	see y'all next time	02:14
codyt	see ya intelikey	02:15
dannybuntu	bye	02:15
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codyt	dannybuntu, what browser are you using?	02:16
dannybuntu	firefox and swiftfox and konqueror	02:17
codyt	ah	02:17
codyt	never heard of swiftfox	02:17
dannybuntu	optimized build of firefox for your processor	02:17
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mebsd	i use maxtron	02:18
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codyt	Yeah, I just noticed that.	02:18
waylandbill	wouldn't think it's the browser if it's only with the nvidia driver enabled. probably have to manually set DisplayDPI for X	02:18
codyt	"including Athlon XP"	02:18
dannybuntu	!maxtron	02:18
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about maxtron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:18
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dannybuntu	hey do you guys know of a good pda to use with kubuntu?	02:20
codyt	oo, a 1 second lag.	02:20
dannybuntu	2 s 4 me	02:21
codyt	down to .5sec	02:21
stdin	45ms here :)	02:21
codyt	not bad for being on dial up, and downloading.	02:21
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stdin	went up to 150ms when downloading a CD image with 15 concurrent connections :D	02:22
codyt	I need to figure out what all issues the XP box has with booting linux.	02:22
dannybuntu	earthquake in taiwan really hit broadband hard here in the philippines	02:23
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codyt	it crashes if I don't disable acpi, but even then I can't get it to completely load Kubuntu..	02:23
mebsd	earthquake in taiwan broke fibre in ocean	02:23
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codyt	it's got a 2.7GHz processor with more RAM.. this computer has a 1.2GHz processor, I think.	02:24
codyt	Not that there will be an extreme difference.	02:24
stdin	my boot options = noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off	02:24
codyt	seriously?	02:24
dannybuntu	mebsd: yeah - good thing though - they'll prolly lay better cables	02:24
stdin	yep	02:24
codyt	I'll write that down and try it next time I feel like messing with that box,.	02:25
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codyt	if it doesn't work, I'll come bug you guys. (:	02:25
stdin	without those options, I can't boot :P	02:25
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codyt	with just the acpi=off, I can get to a very strange terminal	02:26
codyt	er	02:26
codyt	strange, as in the way it looks	02:26
codyt	and things aren't initialized properly.	02:26
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stdin	I get a load of errors down the screen with just acpi=off	02:26
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codyt	I get that without the acpi=off, then it restarts itself.	02:27
jabal	hello i want to try share desktop some one can share with me ???	02:27
stdin	!vnc	02:27
ubotu	VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX	02:27
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jabal	hello i want to try share desktop some one can share with me ???	02:28
dannybuntu	why would you want to do that?	02:28
stdin	jabal: look at the link ubotu posted	02:28
dannybuntu	darn that firefox bus error again	02:29
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codyt	mm, sludge factory	02:32
dannybuntu	ewww	02:33
codyt	don't like Alice in Chains, eh?	02:33
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dannybuntu	not really - just havent heard of em here	02:34
codyt	one of my favorite bands.	02:34
dannybuntu	what genre?	02:34
codyt	rock	02:34
codyt	probably others, but I just consider it to be rock	02:34
dannybuntu	ive mellowed down used to listen to metallica and nirvana	02:35
codyt	I like older Metallica and a lot of Nirvana.	02:35
dannybuntu	but i realized that when you have kids - they sound pretty much the same	02:35
dannybuntu	:)	02:35
Christoph_vW	looks like the "installing Linux on ICH8R problem" is gone...	02:35
codyt	I'm gonna hold my tongue..	02:36
dannybuntu	lol	02:36
Christoph_vW	I just got a msg from Intel Matrix controller that one hdd is faulty	02:36
waylandbill	dannybuntu: that's cause they are pretty much the same. ;-P	02:36
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dannybuntu	heheheh	02:37
Christoph_vW	no, I don't have a RAID anymore...	02:37
Christoph_vW	now*	02:37
codyt	aside from being complety different.	02:37
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waylandbill	they play music and smoke dope... pretty much the same. :-)	02:38
blue\|palm	if i have messed up my xserver by choosing an incorrect driver, is there any way i can restore it	02:38
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codyt	dope...	02:38
codyt	hrm.	02:38
dannybuntu	waylangbill: lol	02:38
Blaskowitz3	Hi, when I try to compile qt applications from source I keep getting a 'library qt-mt not found' error. However via locate I find /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.6.. and when I try getting libqt3-mt-dev through apt, it says libgl1-mesa-dev is a dependacy but is not going to be installed	02:38
waylandbill	bluepalm: put the old xorg.conf back or reconfigure the package and select a different driver.	02:39
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waylandbill	Blaskowitz3: can you install libgl1-mesa-dev explicitly?	02:41
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Blaskowitz3	doing that makes it complain about another dependancy, mesa-common-dev.. though doing that yields: libgl1-mesa-dev: Depends: mesa-common-dev (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed	02:43
Blaskowitz3	and that it is alread the newest version	02:43
Blaskowitz3	already*	02:43
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waylandbill	what version you have selected for repos? 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 is the newest for me	02:45
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Blaskowitz3	um sorry if I seem like a newb but how do I found that out?	02:46
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codyt	hmmm	02:48
blue\|palm	how do i get a copy of the old xorg.conf file? is there a backup from the default installation?	02:48
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Valmarko	if i a proxy will internet be slower?	02:50
codyt	"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"	02:50
Valmarko	-use	02:50
codyt	any ideas?	02:50
waylandbill	Blaskowitz3: did you change the sources.list or repositories?	02:51
blue\|palm	codyt: I had the exact same prob	02:51
waylandbill	blue\|palm: how did you change the driver before?	02:51
codyt	Did you manage to get it resolved?	02:51
codyt	(initramfs) is the next line	02:51
blue\|palm	waylandbill: from within kde	02:51
codyt	and then input	02:51
blue\|palm	codyt: yes	02:52
waylandbill	Valmarko: depends on the proxy. It's an extra step so it will be extra time for the step.	02:52
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Blaskowitz3	uh I added a bunch of servers to the sources.list from the edgy wiki page	02:52
blue\|palm	codyt: but everything is not 100% for me, sometimes it just freezes at the boot screen and other times it loads fine	02:52
waylandbill	blue\|palm: using what program in kde	02:52
Valmarko	I heard that I can use a proxy from ubuntu servers	02:52
Valmarko	Can I?	02:53
K-Ryan	Blaskowitz3 you trying to upgrade to edgy?	02:53
blue\|palm	waylandbill: using the system settings from the little k sign at the bottom	02:53
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Blaskowitz3	I already have	02:53
codyt	blue\|palm, don't happen to remember how you fixed it?	02:53
K-Ryan	Oh, then why did you say uh?	02:53
blue\|palm	codyt: reinstall, and also making my ide drive( where i was installing kubuntu onto) a master instead of a slave	02:53
waylandbill	Blaskowitz3: one of the repos has the cvs version of a library that is newer than the requirements for your program.	02:54
waylandbill	you have to wait until a newer version comes out or use only repos that have that exact required version.	02:54
blue\|palm	can anybody tell me how to get kubuntu to be able to use wpa wifi encryption	02:55
K-Ryan	Hmm	02:55
K-Ryan	!wifi	02:55
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:55
K-Ryan	Tried that yet?(Not saracastic)	02:55
blue\|palm	no, thx	02:56
K-Ryan	No problem	02:56
waylandbill	blue\|palm: I don't know if that backs up the xorg.conf. You can look. It's always a good idea to back it up manually if you think if could be messed up. if you use dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure the x server configuration.	02:56
blue\|palm	as in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?	02:56
waylandbill	right	02:57
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Blaskowitz3	I see, so how do I choose repositories? I thought editing the sources.list was linking to reposes?	02:57
K-Ryan	It is	02:57
K-Ryan	But then you have to update them	02:57
blue\|palm	has the adept graphical manager ever stopped working for anybody else? It just refuses to start	02:57
K-Ryan	You know, "sudo apt-get update"	02:57
K-Ryan	blue\|palm	02:57
K-Ryan	!adeptfix	02:57
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	02:58
Blaskowitz3	oh right, I see.. well thanks for the help :)	02:59
blue\|palm	thanks everyone	02:59
Valmarko	is there a way to hide my ip address ?	02:59
K-Ryan	No problem blue\|palm	03:00
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K-Ryan	Valmarko firewalls for proxy websites	03:00
K-Ryan	My favorite happens to be "http://www.boxofprox.com"	03:00
K-Ryan	I think it's .com	03:00
Valmarko	tanks	03:00
K-Ryan	You're welcome	03:00
K-Ryan	Hrmm, should I of said "You're welcome?" or "TAKE COVER!"?	03:01
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K-Ryan	*have said	03:01
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Valmarko	:)	03:02
K-Ryan	=P	03:02
Balsamic_Chicken	is there a repository for the latest octave program? the one in regular repository is obsolete, and if no repo work, could someone tell me how to set up octave by downloading its tar.bz2 file? thx alot	03:03
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codyt	eh, reinstalling isn't an option	03:04
codyt	it's the LiveCD	03:04
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afimark_	salut	03:07
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K-Ryan	Hi there	03:07
Christoph_vW	I just installed kubuntu feisty - but now I can not login	03:07
Christoph_vW	I tried with the username and pass I entered in setup but I get login incorrect	03:07
K-Ryan	I had that problem with Ubuntu once, I had run out of free space	03:08
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Christoph_vW	I installed on a 160GB hdd - this should be enough	03:08
K-Ryan	just making sure ;)	03:08
Christoph_vW	is there a default root pass? I don't remember setting it...	03:09
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K-Ryan	I never encountered one of those but I've only upgraded once	03:09
K-Ryan	Did you reinstall or upgrade?	03:09
Christoph_vW	I did a fresh install	03:09
stdin	Christoph_vW: there is no root pass, boot in to rescue mode and reset your pass with "passwd [username] "	03:09
codyt	oh, you're back stdin	03:10
K-Ryan	I'm out, got work to do. See ya' later guys.	03:11
codyt	"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <- I get this error on that machine.	03:11
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codyt	this is when I'm trying to boot up the LiveCD with acpi turned off.	03:11
Balsamic_Chicken	How do i install LaTex, is it in the repos? i did a search in synaptic, returned a gazillion results but none is the stand alone latex, help pls, ty	03:12
codyt	ugh.. using windows on this other box.. man I'm glad I have linux on this one..	03:12
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stdin	codyt: hmm, do you see the desktop, or just that error?	03:12
codyt	it goes into ash (a minimal shell)	03:13
codyt	don't even have a "shutdown" command, just have to kill the power.	03:13
stdin	you mean dash?	03:13
codyt	it said ash.	03:13
codyt	ubuntu's built in shell?	03:13
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stdin	ubuntu LiveCD uses dash	03:14
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Christoph_vW	stdin: the user Christoph doesn't seem to exist but I set a root password now	03:14
stdin	Christoph_vW: check in /etc/passwd for the user you made, it will have a UID of "1000"	03:14
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codyt	dunno, but I'm certain that it said ash.	03:15
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stdin	codyt: have you tried with the boot options I use? "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off"	03:15
codyt	Yes, actually.	03:16
codyt	that's what I was doing.	03:16
Christoph_vW	how do I properly reboot the system from the rescue console?	03:16
Christoph_vW	neither "reboot" nor "shutdown -h now" are working	03:16
stdin	Christoph_vW: why do you need to reboot?	03:16
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stdin	Christoph_vW: just type "exit" and the system will boot normally	03:17
Christoph_vW	oh	03:17
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stdin	and the reboot command is "shutdown -r now" :)	03:17
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stdin	codyt: try the alternate CD, it's the one I always use, never had a problem with it	03:18
codyt	Well, that'll take about a week to download	03:18
codyt	I'll try my Gentoo LiveCD.	03:18
kkosmo	stdin	03:18
kkosmo	?	03:18
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yamama	how i can make my own ubuntu cd ??	03:18
stdin	kkosmo: yes?	03:18
kkosmo	stdin what command to do x server restart	03:18
kkosmo	?	03:18
Christoph_vW	stdin: I still get login incorrect	03:19
Christoph_vW	even with the updated password	03:19
kkosmo	stdin you know the answer	03:19
stdin	kkosmo: the X server or the login screen ?	03:19
kkosmo	?	03:19
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stdin	Christoph_vW: what is the username you choose ?	03:20
kkosmo	when i click on ctrl+alt+backspace its do restart	03:20
kkosmo	how i do that in command	03:20
kkosmo	?	03:20
Christoph_vW	stdin: in setup: Christoph	03:20
stdin	kkosmo: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start	03:20
codyt	gentoo uses lilo..	03:20
Christoph_vW	but I tried to login with root too	03:20
kkosmo	thanks	03:20
stdin	Christoph_vW: try with a lower case C	03:20
kkosmo	stdin	03:21
stdin	kkosmo	03:21
kkosmo	thats dont work	03:21
stdin	what's the error?	03:21
yamama	how i can make my own ubuntu cd ??	03:21
kkosmo	root@kosmo-desktop:/home/kosmo# /etc/init.d/kdm start	03:21
kkosmo	Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.	03:21
kkosmo	root@kosmo-desktop:/home/kosmo#	03:21
kkosmo		03:21
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yamama	how i can make my own ubuntu cd ??(ubuntu but with my software and configured	03:21
stdin	yamama: take a look at http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm	03:21
stdin	yamama: and asking once is enough thanks	03:21
darkserver3	in wine	03:22
codyt	hrm.	03:22
stdin	kkosmo: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart	03:22
codyt	Don't think it's gonna boot	03:22
kkosmo	darkserver	03:22
darkserver3	hi	03:22
kkosmo	/j #winehq	03:22
kkosmo	for wine quistions	03:22
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kkosmo	ok	03:22
codyt	"Ok, booting kernel" has been shown, followed by nothing else, for about 2 minutes now..	03:22
darkserver3	thanks...	03:22
darkserver3	well i was working int solaris...	03:22
darkserver3	but in think tha is the sam	03:23
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voicu	hi, i'm not very good with networks and i have a problem with security. i have a simple router setup and i need some tips on protecting against attacks	03:25
voicu	i'm pretty sure i was attacked yesterday with that method when you ping the broadcast address	03:26
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Christoph_vW	stdin: exit isn't working either	03:27
voicu	is my router the source of problems because i restarted in windows and the isp said the flood was gone	03:27
Christoph_vW	now I get "<_pSLsys_getkey: EIO error"	03:27
karmikaze	hrmmm	03:27
voicu	(i have a simple router setup with iptables)	03:27
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voicu	i thought of taking this problem to #iptables but i wasn't sure what is the problem	03:28
voicu	anyone?	03:28
kkosmo	you dont know what your problem is	03:29
kkosmo	lol	03:29
Christoph_vW	and I get a "BIOS Bug" msg at startup and "Cannot allocate resource region 2 and 3 of device ...."	03:29
Valmarko	voicu, why dont you try to close ports you dont use. with guarddog, for example	03:29
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voicu	well, i think it's because my router isn't setup right but i am not sure what are the other security risks, so...	03:29
yamama	i want software like (kazza,limewire,shareza...) but working in linux ?	03:29
stdin	!frostwire	03:30
ubotu	frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire. For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire	03:30
voicu	Valmarko: would that protect me against the broadcast ping attack?	03:30
voicu	isn't ping required?	03:30
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darkserver3	some know something about bmc???	03:31
Valmarko	I guess soo, but I'm a newbie soo... dont really know. Theres an excellent site where you can test vulnerabilities	03:31
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voicu	do you know the address?	03:31
stdin	a ping attack is when you get pinged from multiple (usually 100s or 1000s) of IPs, a broadcast ping can't hurt you	03:32
Valmarko	http://www.grc.com/intro.htm	03:32
Christoph_vW	stdin: still no luck with login :(	03:32
stdin	Christoph_vW: you tried with "christoph" ?	03:33
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Christoph_vW	yes	03:33
voicu	stdin, apparently because of what happened the wan was flooded and the network was really slow, and they cut me from the service	03:33
codyt	windows is weird..	03:33
codyt	Takes 3 seconds for the desktop's pop-up menu to load	03:33
kkosmo	!firewalls	03:33
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about firewalls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:33
voicu	but when switching to windows the flood was gone	03:33
kkosmo	!firewall	03:33
codyt	but all of .1sec for the taskmanger to completely load and display	03:33
ubotu	Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).	03:33
stdin	voicu: just use something like firestarter, it will let you block pings if you want, and will let you use NAT	03:34
Valmarko	voicu, try the section shields up	03:34
voicu	hmm, ok	03:34
stdin	Christoph_vW: try making a new user, and logging in with that	03:34
stdin	Christoph_vW: "sudo adduser username"	03:34
yamama	thank you all	03:34
yamama	thanksssssssssssss	03:34
kkosmo	stdin	03:35
kkosmo	?	03:35
yamama	i want to download java for my ubuntu i search but i find only bin file	03:35
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stdin	!java \| yamama	03:35
ubotu	yamama: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository	03:35
stdin	kkosmo: ?	03:35
gnarlie	!bci	03:35
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about bci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:35
gnarlie	cool	03:35
gnarlie	!fonts	03:36
ubotu	Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer	03:36
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kkosmo	stdin you know how to use	03:36
kkosmo	lkl	03:36
kkosmo	?	03:36
kkosmo	!lkl \|kosmo	03:36
ubotu	lkl: userspace keylogger for x86 architecture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)	03:36
stdin	never used it	03:36
kkosmo	ok more quistion	03:37
kkosmo	why that eror	03:37
kkosmo	coming	03:37
kkosmo	Unable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist	03:37
stdin	how did you install it ?	03:37
kkosmo	apt	03:37
gnarlie	any idea why font style is greyed out in apps (like Kate)?	03:37
gnarlie	can't select bold, italic etc.	03:37
stdin	try reinstalling it "sudo apt-get --reinstall install guarddog"	03:37
Christoph_vW	stdin: chfn: PAM auth failed	03:38
Christoph_vW	adduser returned error code 1	03:38
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stdin	Christoph_vW: sounds like a botched install	03:38
kkosmo	agein	03:38
Christoph_vW	strange - I just installed it	03:39
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kkosmo	stdin	03:39
kkosmo	what i need to do	03:39
kkosmo	its give me agein this error	03:40
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gnarlie	http://ihku.org/~gnarlie/snapshot1.png	03:40
gnarlie	like that	03:40
stdin	kkosmo: I've never used guarddog, I've only used firestarter	03:40
kkosmo	ooo ok	03:41
Dr_willis	could just make that file.	03:41
voicu	ok, thanks people	03:41
Dr_willis	or perhaps ya need to start it as root? never used guarddog either	03:41
voicu	bye	03:41
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kkosmo	stdin are you use ubuntu	03:43
kkosmo	?	03:43
stdin	yeah, I use Kubuntu	03:43
kkosmo	firestarter	03:43
Balsamic_Chicken	in installing freemat (free matlab), it said there are two post-build steps i must perform, which adds freemat_path environment variable to my startup files that includes /home/username/share/FreeMat/MFiles, totally lost =) what does this mean, and where's my startup files, and how do i follow this instruction, thx so much =)	03:44
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Balsamic_Chicken	what's qt, anyone	03:47
Balsamic_Chicken	thx	03:47
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stdin	!qt	03:48
ubotu	Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications	03:48
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dannybuntu	its an abbreviation for cute	03:49
dannybuntu	like dannybuntu is qt	03:49
Balsamic_Chicken	where do i get qt4? it's required by freemat (matlab like program)	03:49
Balsamic_Chicken	ic, thx dannybuntu	03:49
dannybuntu	yw :)	03:50
Balsamic_Chicken	would u happen to know where i could get qt4?	03:50
stdin	libqt4-core libqt4-gui should do	03:50
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Balsamic_Chicken	stdin cool thx alot	03:51
Balsamic_Chicken	stdin and hi again =)	03:51
stdin	heh, no problem :)	03:52
Balsamic_Chicken	stdin would qt4 break anything that uses previous version?	03:52
stdin	Balsamic_Chicken: no, because you'll still have qt3 installed	03:52
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Balsamic_Chicken	stdin i have those qt4 files u mentioned installed already	03:53
stdin	there is also libqt4-qt3support	03:53
Balsamic_Chicken	stdin and freemat was still complaining no qt4 there	03:53
stdin	!info libqt4-qt3support	03:53
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ubotu	libqt4-qt3support: Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1198 kB, installed size 3048 kB	03:53
Balsamic_Chicken	gtg school lates everyone	03:53
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Balsamic_Chicken	it's 7am, stupid school	03:54
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yamama	how i can install xfce in kubuntu ??	03:54
yamama	or gnome	03:54
yamama	??	03:54
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stdin	install "xubuntu-desktop" for xfce and "ubuntu-desktop" for gnome	03:55
yamama	i know but how	03:56
stdin	in Adept	03:57
yamama	ok thank you	03:57
Christoph_vW	stdin: I reinstalled now	03:57
Christoph_vW	same problem...	03:57
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stdin	what version are you installing ?	03:58
ajopaul_	have two sound cards, how do i make one of them default??	03:58
stdin	!sound	03:58
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin	03:58
Christoph_vW	feisty	03:58
Dr_willis	ajopaul_, ive always just disabled one in the bios.	03:58
stdin	Christoph_vW: well feisty isn't stable	03:58
Christoph_vW	but this is the only one I CAN install	03:59
stdin	Christoph_vW: why?	03:59
Christoph_vW	this is the only version which supports my hardware	03:59
ajopaul_	Dr_willis, hmm, need the other sometimes so i ruled out hardware disable	03:59
stdin	Christoph_vW: you may get more help in #ubuntu+1	03:59
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emss	kubuntu-desktop in 6.10 seems rough	04:02
yamama	what is edubuntu ??	04:02
emss	not as polished as gnome	04:02
stdin	!edubuntu	04:02
ubotu	Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org	04:02
Dr_willis	gnome is so polished - its as slippery as a bar of soap in places.. :)	04:02
stdin	you can change the desktop to look how you want it to	04:03
emss	well polished being, gnome in edgy seems well integrated but kde doesn't	04:03
Dr_willis	KDe has a good texture like the Hammer that always just feels right in your hand. :)	04:03
emss	like if you click on a link in firefox it will use evince or whatever	04:03
emss	gnome 2.16 is buggy though :\	04:03
Dr_willis	I think there was a discussion of firefox and kde the toehr day in here.	04:03
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Dr_willis	I belive the conclusion was that firefox dosent play nicely in some ways with kde. :)	04:04
dannybuntu	firefox = head ache	04:04
emss	I meant firefox seems better integrated with gnome than konqueror with kde	04:04
Dr_willis	I got gnome and kde installed.. i noticed in firefox today that i said 'open containing folder' and it used Gnomes file manager to do that.. not konwueror	04:04
stdin	if only they made FF in Qt	04:04
Dr_willis	Firefox uses gtk? i forget...	04:05
stdin	yeah, FF is a gtk app	04:05
Dr_willis	stdin, yes. thats what i was thinking also. its more of a firefox issue not a kde issue.	04:05
stdin	a lot of 3rd party apps seem to be in gtk, shame really	04:06
emss	yes	04:06
emss	but it seems even	04:06
emss	because there are some nice qt apps k3b, kile, texmaker etc.	04:07
stdin	k3b isn't a 3rd party app	04:07
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Dr_willis	well isent that freedesktop.org site helping to smooth over some of the issues between kde and gmome - i seem to recall there being a LOT more problems with missing kde & gnome apps in the past.	04:07
Dr_willis	I recall ages ago. some how running KDE's desktop and gnomes desktop at the same time by mistake. had 2 icons for everything on the desktop	04:08
Dr_willis	The good old days...	04:08
Dr_willis	Back befor gnome decided to use MetaCity	04:08
emss	my external usb drive is so slooow	04:09
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Dr_willis	yep. ive moved all my external drives internal. :)	04:10
Dr_willis	and was amazed at how much faster they are. I did have to track down an ide controller card.	04:10
Dr_willis	External Serial ATA drives are just as fast as internal. i hear.	04:11
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naser	i want software to convert video ?!	04:11
emss	naser: mplayer/mencoder	04:12
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emss	naser: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/	04:12
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stdin	!mplayer	04:13
ubotu	mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer To compile it from source see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile	04:13
vliegje20	is there a way to open .mdb documents made by access in openoffice?	04:13
ubotu	For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.	04:13
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dannybuntu	finally firefox	04:16
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[Worlor]	salut a tous	04:16
dannybuntu	what the flying ...	04:16
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emss	bonjour	04:18
dannybuntu	can anyone help me with my firefox installation - it keeps giving out "bus error"	04:18
stdin	vliegje20: I think openoffice.org-base can do it	04:18
Dr_willis	dannybuntu, how did you install it?	04:18
dannybuntu	apt-get install firefox	04:18
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dannybuntu	installation is ok - it runs for a few minutes then spews out a bus error	04:19
Dr_willis	interesting.	04:19
vliegje20	stdin thats installed but it cannot open it	04:19
Dr_willis	first ive herd of that problem.	04:19
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ebees	Hi all. I'm running Dapper and have just upgraded Kino and now it doesn't recognise my camera. I'm wonndering if I may be able to get some assistance please?	04:20
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Dell-Net	hi	04:23
ebees	hiya	04:23
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Dell-Net	hmm what is the name of service/program that shows cpu speeds, my is gone :s	04:24
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Dell-Net	*mine	04:24
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ebees	Hi all, Does anyone have any experience with firewire?	04:25
dannybuntu	Dell-Net there are plenty	04:26
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Dell-Net	standard in kde ?	04:27
BluesKaj	howdy all :)	04:27
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dannybuntu	is it ksysguard?	04:28
Dell-Net	hmm yeah maybe	04:28
HymnToLife	!anyone \| ebees	04:28
ubotu	ebees: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	04:28
Dell-Net	hmm no	04:28
ebees	Hi Ubotu... I did a few minutes earlier, but I will certainly post it again. Thanks.	04:29
ebees	Hi all. I'm running Dapper and have just upgraded Kino and now it doesn't recognise my camera. I'm wonndering if I may be able to get some assistance please?	04:29
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dannybuntu	hmmm do you mean the kasbar?	04:30
Dell-Net	hmm	04:31
Dell-Net	no	04:31
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dannybuntu	ok i give up sorry i dunno	04:31
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Dell-Net	it show if ypur cpu runs on 800mhz or 1600	04:32
Dell-Net	and adjustes	04:32
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peksu	hello	04:32
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peksu	can someone help me, my kubuntu says following at start up: "The composite Manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session.	04:33
stdin	that sounds like a compiz or beryl issue	04:34
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peksu	another alert window after that says:" Composite extension not found. You must use Xorg>6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.	04:34
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peksu	i'm totally new with linux...	04:35
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ebees	thanks all the same everyone. It's last here so I'm off and will come back tomorrow night if need be	04:37
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bartist	good night !	04:38
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peksu	does anybody know where i can found a X config file? the find application don't show any hits	04:41
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mindspin	it should be found at /etc/X11/xorg.conf	04:43
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lamer	xax imam net	04:45
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bartist	i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants -- PLEASE HELP	04:46
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dennister	hello ppls	04:46
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sameer	hi	04:47
dennister	i can't believe i did this, but i need to retrieve some forgotten passwords...could anyone help me with this?	04:47
stdin	dennister: unless you want to try and crack the passwords, it may just be easier to set new ones	04:48
BluesKaj	Ksysguard used to show graphical memory and cpu use .It no longer shows it and there doesn't seem to be a command available to turn it on.	04:48
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dennister	yes, and i'm sure I can do that with the other user password, but with mysql, too?	04:48
lupine_85	dennister: do you have the md5sums ?	04:49
stdin	don't know about the mysql one	04:49
lupine_85	if you do, http://md5.benramsey.com/ is a godsend at times	04:49
dennister	ok...will try the mysql channel for that	04:49
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dennister	lupine_85: i don't understand what md5sums have to do with passwords?	04:50
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lupine_85	passwords are stored as md5sums...	04:50
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lupine_85	usually, anyway	04:50
kkosmo	md5sums its only a database of passwords	04:50
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dennister	ok, well i don't usually bother with md5sums unless i'm downloading & burning isos, so i'm not sure if i have the md5sums?	04:51
BluesKaj	stdin, Ksysguard used to show graphical memory and cpu use .It no longer shows it and there doesn't seem to be a command available to turn it on. ...any suggestions ?	04:52
lupine_85	the mysql one will be stored in the mysql database; so if you have read-only access, you can get it from there	04:52
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lupine_85	but anyway. /me ----> work	04:52
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dennister	thx lupine_85 will try	04:52
trappist	dennister: md5 is a one-way hash algorithm, which makes it goot for things like verifying downloads and crypting passwords	04:53
trappist	*good	04:53
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dennister	hey trappist, long time no see :)	04:53
stdin	BluesKaj: File -> Load Standard Sheets	04:53
trappist	heya dennister	04:53
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BluesKaj	stdin, thx :)	04:54
stdin	BluesKaj: no problem :)	04:54
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dennister	ok, i have a coupla mysql databases (cause of mythtv) where do i look for the user's passwords to them	04:59
BluesKaj	What does mysql do in kubuntu ..and is it required to run the OS ?	05:00
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dennister	or how do i use these md5sum gems to find them?	05:00
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stdin	BluesKaj: mysql is a database server, and I don't think it's required no	05:01
BluesKaj	ok stdin , cuz it seems to be using a lot of the process	05:01
dennister	BluesKaj: it is required for applications like mythtv, ur running that? i seem to remember...	05:02
BluesKaj	nope , mythtv isn't necessary ...running TVtime with a satdish feed	05:02
BluesKaj	I tried mythtv ...too buggy	05:03
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dennister	good for u :) don't mind me butting in, stdin knows more than I, no mysql is only used for certain applications, not the OS...so my memory was correct, u were trying mythtv	05:03
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BluesKaj	ok what's mysqld ?	05:05
dennister	trappist: getting back to retrieving the mysql passwords...do u have some time to help me with this?	05:06
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emss	BlueKaj man mysqld	05:06
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stdin	mysqld would be the mysql daemon	05:07
stdin	daemon = server	05:07
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naser	can i run gnome in kubuntu (install it)	05:12
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naser	??	05:12
dennister	stdin: would u be able to help me with retrieving these passwords?	05:12
dennister	naser: yes	05:12
stdin	naser: just install "ubuntu-desktop"	05:12
naser	how ?	05:12
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stdin	dennister: I don't know enough about mysql databases to help	05:13
naser	sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??	05:13
dennister	k, thx anyway	05:13
stdin	dennister: maybe ask in #mysql ?	05:13
stdin	naser: yes, or you can install it in adept	05:13
dennister	yes,...was just gonna go there :)...bbs	05:14
naser	from where (from kubuntu cd ??)	05:14
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naser	from where (from kubuntu cd ??)	05:15
stdin	huh?	05:15
stdin	what do you mean "from where" ?	05:15
naser	i cant find gnome desktop in kubuntu CD	05:15
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stdin	it won't be on the kubuntu cd	05:15
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Dr_willis	logical eh. :)	05:16
naser	i search in the cd (pool/main/g/)	05:16
Dr_willis	gnome packages are NOT on the kubuntu cd	05:17
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Dr_willis	thers no room for it on there.	05:17
stdin	like I said, it's not on the CD	05:17
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naser	ok	05:17
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naser	from where i can find it ??	05:17
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mauro	does anyone know how long it will take for flash 9 final to get on the repos ?	05:17
stdin	naser: from the repositories	05:18
Dr_willis	!info ubuntu-desktop	05:18
ubotu	ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB	05:18
Dr_willis	sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-getinstall ubuntu-desktop	05:18
stdin	with a space between "apt-get" and "install" :P	05:19
Dr_willis	you proberly want to remove/comment out any mention of the cd drive in the apt-sources	05:19
Pekke	can anyone link me to a simple, step-by-step manual how to install Java pluging to Firefox?	05:19
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stdin	!java	05:19
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository	05:19
Dr_willis	Pekke, i just installed the sun java package.. and it worked.. never had any problems with it	05:19
stdin	you just install "sun-java5-plugin" and let aot sort out the dependencies	05:20
vikal	#ubuntu.pl	05:20
stdin	s/aot/apt	05:20
Pekke	i have tried for 2 days now to install, but it always gives some error. I have tried by the instructions found in Sun Java site	05:21
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Dr_willis	and this error is ?	05:21
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stdin	don't use the download from sun, use the ubuntu package	05:21
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Pekke	sometimes it can't find the package(which i have downloaded onto desktop) and sometimes it says something different, which i can't remember right now	05:22
Dr_willis	well you dont download the package to the desktop.. you should let apt-get download and install it.	05:22
Pekke	where can i find the ubuntu package?	05:22
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McChicken	hello, it is me from this morning. I need some help with installing programs from tar.gz and tgz files, can any1 help??	05:22
Dr_willis	sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-jre	05:22
tony__	how do you install things that you download with an .sh extension	05:23
stdin	Pekke: it's in the multiverse repository	05:23
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Dr_willis	McChicken, what 'programs'	05:23
Dr_willis	bash whatever.sh (normally), or chmod +x whatever.sh && ./whatever.sh	05:23
McChicken	BombOBomb.program-1.11.2.tgz	05:23
Dr_willis	!source	05:23
ubotu	You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html	05:23
Dr_willis	silly factoid. :P	05:23
McChicken	im a no0b	05:23
manwithaface	!build-essentials	05:24
ubotu	Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	05:24
Dr_willis	McChicken, install 'build-essential' first. uncompress the archive.. google for compiling stuff from source.. you may need to install other things befor compiling.	05:24
McChicken	what about tar.gz files. in the folders it explains i need to do a command. but where and how??	05:24
stdin	tony__: depends what it is, but generally you open Konsole and run the file like "sh /path/to/file.sh"	05:24
Dr_willis	!shell	05:24
ubotu	The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands	05:24
McChicken	sh?	05:24
Dr_willis	McChicken, you may want to invest a day or 2 in learning some linux basics.	05:24
stdin	!sh	05:24
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stdin	sh = shell	05:24
raeez	!adeptfix	05:24
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	05:25
manwithaface	if they are tar, you'll have to untar em	05:25
McChicken	where can i learn the basics?	05:25
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stdin	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands	05:25
Dr_willis	McChicken, tldp.org and ... err... learn to use google. :)	05:25
naser	what is the desktop that like windows ??	05:25
tony__	okay, thanks, oh and anyone have a good link to a getting started guide?	05:25
McChicken	how do you untar?? do you just extract them?	05:25
naser	ice.. ?	05:25
Dr_willis	naser, icewm looks a little like windows95	05:25
McChicken	where can i get the "alien" program from?	05:25
Dr_willis	McChicken, from the shell. i normally use the 'unp' command. but im lazy	05:25
Dr_willis	McChicken, install alien with the package manager tool	05:26
stdin	fvwm95 looks like win95	05:26
Dr_willis	!alien	05:26
ubotu	RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)	05:26
McChicken	package manager??	05:26
Dr_willis	McChicken, now we are back to time to learn the basics. :)	05:26
Dr_willis	!adept	05:26
ubotu	adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto	05:26
Pekke	hmm. earlier i downloaded the Automatix -script.. is it any good, for the codecs & java plugin	05:26
Dr_willis	Pekke, dont use that....	05:26
Dr_willis	Pekke, it can do bad things..	05:26
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stdin	!automatix	05:26
ubotu	automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe	05:26
Pekke	ok.. thanks	05:27
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raeez	Video playback with kaffiene is choppy, but not with VLC... why is this?	05:27
McChicken	ok, what filetype do i need to download that is a suitable program for kubuntu?	05:27
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stdin	use Adept to get all your apps	05:27
McChicken	Adept??	05:28
stdin	Kmenu -> System -> Adept	05:28
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stdin	it's the Kubuntu package manager	05:28
McChicken	ok i am runnig adept	05:28
manwithaface	McChicken: if nothing else, look for .debs	05:28
Dr_willis	McChicken, Linux uses a package manager tool to download/install stuff.. you dont NORMALLY just 'download' stuff an dinstall from various web sites	05:28
stdin	you use it to install application on Kubuntu	05:28
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Dr_willis	thats 'windows' thinking.	05:28
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raeez	Video playback with kaffiene is choppy, but not with VLC... why is this?	05:29
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codyt	hrm.	05:30
McChicken	how ????? i am on it but it just explains all the ones i have on my system	05:30
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McChicken	i just want to install more programs, where and how can i do this?	05:30
McChicken	*	05:30
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manwithaface	McChicken, you're gonna have to enable repositories	05:31
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McChicken	what is that?	05:31
Dr_willis	McChicken, notice in the menus theres a "add/remove programs" icon?	05:31
McChicken	yes	05:31
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McChicken	i have been on that	05:31
Dr_willis	try it yet? :)	05:31
stdin	!repos \| McChicken	05:31
ubotu	McChicken: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	05:31
McChicken	ok	05:31
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Dr_willis	installing any program from source - will be a bit of a task for you - since you have no knowledge of the basics of how linux works.	05:31
McChicken	ok, i agree.	05:32
Dr_willis	!beginner	05:32
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about beginner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:32
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codyt	not always	05:32
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codyt	well, I grasp things quickly.	05:32
Pekke	E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin	05:32
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Dr_willis	!info java	05:32
ubotu	Package java does not exist in any distro I know	05:32
Pekke	that is the error it gives me now	05:32
stdin	!repos \| Pekke	05:32
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ubotu	Pekke: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	05:32
Dr_willis	Pekke, you need to enable the proper repository.	05:33
codyt	But, a large portion of programs is just "./config && make && make install"	05:33
stdin	Pekke: enable the Multiverse repository	05:33
Dr_willis	codyt, assuming the guy even has a clue what the 'shell' and 'typing commands' means. :)	05:33
Dr_willis	codyt, that makes it a little tougher.	05:33
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stdin	codyt: and what about resolving dependencies of the apps, it's not always that easy	05:33
Pekke	in the Adept repositories, i have enabled all that are in the list	05:33
codyt	Oh, I know.	05:33
codyt	I did a lot of resolving depencies without a net connect.	05:34
Dr_willis	Pekke, i always edit the sources.list file by hand and add on 'multiverse' after every line that has 'universe' :)	05:34
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Dr_willis	i wonder if that easysource site has edgy support yet.	05:34
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stdin	Dr_willis: it does, it even has feisty :P	05:34
codyt	even though Gentoo sports emerge(<3), I couldn't use it.	05:35
stdin	!source-o-matic	05:35
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ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	05:35
gdiebel	would anyone know a way to make konsole sort-of ssh/bash aware? I mean change the color schema if you are root or if you are ssh'd into another host.	05:35
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Dr_willis	gdiebel, edit the users .bashrc or .bash_profiles to check/change things	05:35
blue\|palm	codyt: did you get your kubuntu sorted?	05:36
codyt	blue\|palm, I don't have the option of reinstalling, it's a LiveCD.	05:36
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Pekke	i added the word multiverse to all of the lines that had the word universe there and saved the file, but it still says the same error	05:37
McChicken	ok, i have got it to work. But i need a c/c++ compiler	05:37
Dr_willis	McChicken, 'build-essential' is the package that installs the compiler and other stuff.	05:37
blue\|palm	yeah, i used a livecd too	05:37
blue\|palm	i just formatted and then installed again	05:37
tony__	the .sh file wouldn't run. what's the command I went cd /directory/ but it wouldn't run	05:37
ohyesyoucan11	what is the best proxy to use when you set up Konquer to "autodetect proxy"?	05:37
McChicken	build essential?? how do i do this? the run command??	05:38
Dr_willis	tony__, and did it say anything?	05:38
codyt	blue\|palm, this occurs during the LiveCD boot process	05:38
blue\|palm	woah	05:38
codyt	yeah.	05:38
Dr_willis	McChicken, its a package you install with the package manager.. or from the shell with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'	05:38
blue\|palm	codyt: I didnt know that	05:38
tony__	it said command not found	05:38
ohyesyoucan11	oops,something messed up	05:38
blue\|palm	codyt: Your next step is to get the alternate install cd then I think	05:38
Dr_willis	tony__, i would guess a typo on your part..	05:38
McChicken	so i need to "udo apt-get install build-essential" in konsole??	05:38
Dr_willis	./whatevercommand	05:38
Dr_willis	not 'whatverecommand'	05:39
manwithaface	McChicken, yes	05:39
Dr_willis	McChicken, yes. that is the 'shell'	05:39
ohyesyoucan11	if I set my Konquer to "autodetect proxy" which proxy is most noob friendly.?	05:39
tony__	oh, ok	05:39
McChicken	ok and that will install all necessary file?	05:39
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Dr_willis	McChicken, it will install the CORE of the C development stuff.	05:39
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manwithaface	you're still gonna have to install kde-dev, and all kinds of other stuff	05:40
codyt	blue\|palm, I've also tried my Gentoo LiveCD, it stops after "ok, bootking kernel" (or something along those lines)	05:40
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manwithaface	your first compile can be a long process	05:40
blue\|palm	Dr_willis: how do you get the x headers?	05:40
McChicken	i have done this command. now all it display s is ">" sign, ??	05:40
tony__	what is the command to run the sh file	05:40
blue\|palm	codyt: thats really odd	05:40
ohyesyoucan11	manwithaface... and don't forget the tears. lol	05:40
codyt	I've heard of other people having problems with this specific computer, but didn't find any resolutions (wasn't looking hard)	05:40
Dr_willis	blue\|palm, i normally fire up the pakcage manager and search and start clicking...	05:40
codyt	apt-*	05:41
McChicken	why is it just displaying te ">" sign??	05:41
Dr_willis	tony__, if its executable it would be ./whateverthefilenameis.sh	05:41
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tony__	thanks	05:41
Dr_willis	tony__, or 'bash whateverthestupidnameis.sh'	05:41
Dr_willis	or 'chmod +x whatevertheDUMBthingis.sh && ./whatevertheDUmbthingis.sh'	05:41
Dr_willis	tony__, what Are you trying to isntall anyway?	05:41
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stdin	./AppToFsckMyPC ?	05:42
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blue\|palm	codyt: what architecture are you using? also are there any extra hardware peripherals attached (USB, firewire etc.) I find its best to just disconnect them and reconnect after install	05:42
blue\|palm	Does anybody know where to get the x headers?	05:42
tony__	thank you so much	05:42
codyt	fsck you?	05:42
stdin	fsck us all :)	05:42
tony__	i got a lot of reading to do	05:42
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stdin	blue\|palm: xorg-dev should be what you're looking for	05:43
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codyt	blue\|palm, I had thought of that earlier, but had forgot.. I'll check into that again.	05:43
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McChicken	i have done the command, but now this has come up:"E: Couldn't find package build-essential". Any help?	05:43
codyt	really don't want to have to download another CD image	05:43
codyt	don't have broadband here.	05:43
Dr_willis	!info build-essential	05:44
ubotu	build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB	05:44
McChicken	what does this mean	05:44
HymnToLife	McChicken, bad sources.list, most likely	05:44
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Dr_willis	McChicken, be sure you typed it right.. and you proberly need to do a 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' first (just in case)	05:44
McChicken	i di it through konsole, i typed it correctly so why not?	05:44
McChicken	ok	05:44
codyt	actually	05:45
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McChicken	do i have to be "root"?	05:45
Dr_willis	thats what 'sudo' is all about McChicken	05:45
codyt	blue\|palm, it should be the 386 edgy	05:45
McChicken	ok	05:46
codyt	'cause, this is an Athlon XP, not 64bit or Apple.	05:46
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ohyesyoucan11	what should I set my browser ID to in Konqueror... for compatibility?	05:47
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McChicken	problem: "reading package lists... Done E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?	05:47
McChicken	eading package lists... Done	05:47
McChicken	E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)	05:47
McChicken	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?	05:47
blue\|palm	stdin: thanks	05:47
McChicken	i didnt mean to flood sorry	05:47
McChicken	why is this happening?????	05:48
DShepherd	McChicken, have you tried sudo before the command?	05:48
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DShepherd	or you may have the 2 or more programs in use ( like adept open and running apt-get at the same time)	05:49
blue\|palm	Does anybody know which package i can find the qt headers in?	05:49
blue\|palm	!adeptfix	05:50
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	05:50
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blue\|palm	McChicken try those commands (after !adeptfix)	05:50
McChicken	i typed "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and i tryed the other command "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"	05:50
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McChicken	am i doing it wrong?	05:51
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blue\|palm	McChicken: try the commands after !adeptfix	05:51
ctaylor_	hrm.	05:52
ctaylor_	dialup..	05:52
McChicken	give me an example please	05:52
DShepherd	blue\|palm libqt3-headers	05:52
blue\|palm	go to your console and type the following commands:	05:52
blue\|palm	!adeptfix	05:52
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	05:52
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blue\|palm	McChicken: type these in 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	05:52
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Dr_willis	McChicken, you DOnt have adept, or any other package manager tools allready running do you? you only run 1 of those at a time.	05:52
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McChicken	when !adeptfix:"bash: !adeptfix: event not found"	05:53
blue\|palm	DShepherd thanks	05:53
DShepherd	blue\|palm, no prob	05:53
blue\|palm	no, dont TYPE !adeptfix	05:53
blue\|palm	type the commands i told you about above	05:53
McChicken	o k sorry	05:53
blue\|palm	its ok	05:54
blue\|palm	type these in 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	05:54
McChicken	bluepalm i typed that command and nothing happened, so it must of worked	05:54
blue\|palm	there are two there	05:54
blue\|palm	the first starts with sudo and ends with lock	05:54
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blue\|palm	now run System->Adept Package Manager	05:55
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McChicken	ok	05:55
McChicken	it asks for my password then opens	05:56
blue\|palm	great	05:56
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McChicken	now how do i get the basic stuff	05:56
blue\|palm	now there are a list of packages fot you to browse	05:56
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blue\|palm	you first must know what you want	05:56
McChicken	loads but they all say installed	05:56
blue\|palm	Most of the 'basics' come with the livecd anyway	05:57
codyt	my package management system has some issue about gzip	05:57
McChicken	i would like to get the c/c++ stuff	05:57
McChicken	all of them are installed	05:57
blue\|palm	they cant 'all' be installed	05:58
blue\|palm	most of mine are blue and say 'not installed'	05:58
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codyt	Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages	05:58
codyt	Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)	05:58
McChicken	hmm...in the main window. with the "status" they all say installed.	05:58
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blue\|palm	how many entries are there?	05:59
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blue\|palm	I have 'loads', how about you?	05:59
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McChicken	it says at the bottom, 937 installed, 0 upgradable, 937 available	05:59
manwithaface	you need to enable repos	06:00
smileymike	hello	06:00
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McChicken	how do i enable?	06:00
blue\|palm	manwithaface: can you take over from here?	06:00
manwithaface	sure	06:00
manwithaface	McChicken, how did you start Adept?	06:01
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manwithaface	did you click on Add/Remove programs?	06:01
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McChicken	no	06:01
McChicken	iopened it normally.	06:01
manwithaface	ok	06:01
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manwithaface	what all is checked at the top?	06:02
McChicken	ok, i have installed kubuntu through a live cd. a few days ago	06:02
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manwithaface	make sure by Show: you have every box checked	06:03
McChicken	and i was trying to install a program through console "./configure then make then make install" but then it needed c/c++ something	06:03
manwithaface	ok	06:03
blue\|palm	!adeptfix	06:03
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	06:03
manwithaface	what program are you trying to install through Konsol	06:03
McChicken	it has not	06:03
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McChicken	A extracted tar.gz file	06:04
McChicken	it has told me to do those codes i just explained	06:04
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manwithaface	but what program, it is possible it is already a Kubuntu package	06:04
McChicken	what do you mean by checkboxes, i only have arrows?	06:04
manwithaface	ok, expand the State Filter arrow	06:05
McChicken	it is a game, bombObomb	06:05
McChicken	and ia hve many other ones	06:05
manwithaface	ok	06:05
manwithaface	do you see the boxs?	06:05
bubu1uk	McChicken: what exactly does it need? c/c++ something.	06:05
McChicken	ok give me a minute....	06:06
manwithaface	bubuluk: i think he needs build-essentials	06:06
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Dr_willis	and the discussion goes back to the beginning.. :)	06:07
bubu1uk	might be, but hard to help him if he needs c++ something	06:07
blue\|palm	lol, hes new	06:07
McChicken	it checks for gcc.no,cc..no,cl..no,cc..no. then "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"	06:07
bubu1uk	blue\|palm: got that. ;)	06:07
blue\|palm	hehe	06:07
blue\|palm	we all start somewhere	06:07
Dr_willis	McChicken, if you have not installed 'build-essential' yet - then you need to do so.	06:08
blue\|palm	sudo apt-get install build-essential	06:08
blue\|palm	thats your cmd	06:08
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Dr_willis	but if he still has adept open.... :)	06:08
blue\|palm	yeah, first close adept	06:08
manwithaface	he is trying to do it GUI	06:08
manwithaface	i think	06:08
blue\|palm	oh thats fine too	06:08
blue\|palm	maybe its better	06:09
manwithaface	otherwise, he will have to edit his sources	06:09
McChicken	i have tried that but it says:"E: Couldn't find package build-essential"	06:09
manwithaface	ok, click View, then Manage Repositories	06:09
blue\|palm	Has anybody got experience with choppy video playback in kubuntu?	06:09
blue\|palm	sorry only in kaffiene	06:09
Dr_willis	build-essential is in main.. perhaps he needs to remove the cdrom repository	06:09
McChicken	on konsole?	06:10
manwithaface	no, in adept	06:10
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McChicken	ok	06:10
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cmcguicken	ok i have done it	06:11
cmcguicken	now what?	06:11
cmcguicken	i am on view repositories	06:13
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cmcguicken	??	06:13
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bubu1uk	cmcquicken: press update button. two arrows. to refresh package list from repositories.	06:14
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bubu1uk	cmcquicken:	06:14
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bubu1uk	cmcquicken:	06:14
blue\|palm	Does anybody know of any media players able to post process as well as the opensource windows media player classic (except for linux of course)	06:15
bubu1uk	cmcquicken: hold. lol. am bit mixed now. lol	06:15
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bubu1uk	cmcquicken: ur McChicken now?	06:15
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Dr_willis	blue\|palm, vlc,xine,mplayer - have lots of those features.	06:16
cmcguicken	yes	06:16
cmcguicken	sorry	06:16
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peksu	hello again. my wlan doesn't seem to work all that well with this linux	06:17
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KennethP	Starting Adept Manager just after reboot I see this Read only mode: Database Locked - Adept Manager. How do I unlock this again?	06:17
bubu1uk	cmcquicken: u'r in repositories list, right?	06:17
fdoving	!adept crash fix \| kennethp	06:18
ubotu	kennethp: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	06:18
cmcguicken	i am	06:18
KennethP	fdoving: tnx	06:18
bubu1uk	cmcquicken: u should have some repositories in grey colour some in black. those in grey right click and choose enable.	06:18
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bubu1uk	choose those that are universe and multiverse.	06:19
cmcguicken	all of them?	06:19
cmcguicken	soome say bugs and stuff	06:19
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cmcguicken	like competed unsupported?	06:19
peksu	but i sure can't get my java plugin to work in firefox. I added "multiverse" to the sources list and then tried again to install it via Konsole, but nothing	06:20
cmcguicken	**completely	06:20
cmcguicken	?	06:20
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cmcguicken	bubu1k, what do you mean?	06:21
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Dr_willis	peksu, after editng the sources.list you need to do a 'sudo apt-get update'	06:22
cmcguicken	ok i have now done this	06:22
cmcguicken	will c work?	06:22
bubu1uk	cmcquicken: u could choose just universe and multiverse, but doesnt really matter if all of them.	06:23
BluesKaj	peksu , try this site : http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting	06:23
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cmcguicken	ok sso now do i need to do that command to get the basic things	06:24
bubu1uk	cmcquicken:now click aply and done or something like that.	06:24
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cmcguicken	now what?	06:24
codyt	Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.2.1) but it is not installable <- any idea why it wouldn't be installable?	06:25
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peksu	Dr_willis: thanks! it was all about updating the list! now it works	06:25
Dr_willis	peksu, :) been there... done that...	06:25
peksu	=)	06:25
Dr_willis	peksu, heh.	06:25
cmcguicken	now adept is taken al ong time to open..:@	06:25
bubu1uk	cmcquicken:basicaly get back to package list. dont have adept opened now so dont really remember exactly	06:26
cmcguicken	adept is not opening!!	06:26
Dr_willis	or its looking at all the repos/lists now...	06:26
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cmcguicken	no its just stoppped loading and gone	06:26
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firecrotc1	Okay, I know that this would belong on #ubuntu-server, but as usual, no one is responding there...	06:27
firecrotc1	I just started renting a dedicated server and have been given a block of 5 ip addresses, 1 of which is actually set up. How do I set up my server to work on additional IPs?	06:27
firecrotc1	If that makes sense to anyone	06:27
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cmcguicken	what s the command to unlock it??	06:28
cmcguicken	**the command to unlock adept	06:28
bubu1uk	!adeptfix	06:28
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	06:28
bubu1uk	cmcquicken:but close all adept	06:28
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cmcguicken	got adept ot work again	06:30
cmcguicken	ok i have applied after doing the repsoitories, what will this do?	06:31
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eihnat	cmcquicken: put in search box 'build-esentials' or whatever it was called	06:31
cmcguicken	where	06:32
meven	adept	06:32
eihnat	cmcquicken: there should be search box in adept	06:32
cmcguicken	i have already installed all 937	06:32
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eihnat	cmcquicken: box where u can type	06:33
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jamrs	okay, anyone have a guide to repair a grub boot record from the live cd	06:33
cmcguicken	yes "build-essentials" ...=nothing	06:33
Dr_willis	!grub	06:33
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	06:33
eihnat	jamrs: try to have a look at www.ubuntuguide.org	06:33
Dr_willis	its 'build-essential'	06:33
Dr_willis	!find build-essential	06:33
ubotu	Found: build-essential	06:33
cmcguicken	no adept cant find it	06:34
eihnat	cmcquicken: build-essential without s	06:34
eihnat	at the end	06:34
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cmcguicken	yes	06:34
cmcguicken	there is nothing	06:34
jamrs	Dr_willis: thanks	06:35
cmcguicken	g2g	06:35
jamrs	Dr_willis: ah, yes, already tried this guide	06:35
eihnat	cmcquicken: go back to manage repositories and check if all are applied	06:35
jamrs	it didnt work	06:35
jamrs	rebooted and it went into windows	06:35
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angasule	I wanted to edit /etc/sudoers so I changed the permission from 0440 to 0640, little did I know that sudo would then refuse to work (since it checks for /etc/sudoers to be 0440), how do I change it back? reboot and rescue CD? or is there some way that doesn't involve a reboot?	06:36
peksu	is the easyubuntu still working? i mean my Add/Remove programs application can't find it at all	06:36
eihnat	jamrs: did u have a look in ubuntuguide.org	06:36
eihnat	?	06:36
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russo__	hola?	06:39
angasule	!es	06:39
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	06:39
jamrs	eihnat: yeah it doesnt have a search function on the page	06:39
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jamrs	which doesnt make sense cause it looks like a wiki	06:39
dpini	hiuh	06:40
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chuen	Hi all. I'm trying to open an .rar archive using ARK, but am getting the error "The utility unrar is not in your path."	06:41
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kalle_	Whats the shortcut for gnome-terminal? :o	06:41
chuen	Do I have to use unrar specifically to unarchive rar files?	06:41
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hatta	ark is just a frontend	06:42
largos	is anyone aware of problems installing kubuntu on large sata drives?	06:42
mauro	chuen: install unrar	06:42
hossen_aljesme	where i find kubuntu packages ?? (auto install) ??	06:42
firecrotc1	is there anyone here who is familiar with "ifconfig" ?	06:42
mauro	chuen: "sudo aptitude install unrar"	06:42
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hatta	it's easier to just pop open a console and do: rar x file.rar	06:42
mauro	firecrotc1: what do you need to know ?	06:43
andreasw_weg	firecrotc1: here (I hope so) ;)	06:43
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chuen	hatta: Thanks. I'll try command line	06:43
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firecrotc1	I have a dedicated server with 5 IPs allocated to it, only 1 is set up	06:43
chuen	mauro: I've just installed it. Is it a command line utility?	06:43
firecrotc1	All I can figure out is that I have to use ifconfig to enable the othere	06:44
largos	chuen: rar / unrar are command-line	06:44
eihnat	jamrs: it doesnt have search but it has a list of topics. go thru it. i think i saw there something bout grub before. but not sure.	06:44
chuen	largos: No gui's available?	06:44
largos	firecrotc1: does it have 5 'nics?	06:44
andreasw	firecrotc1: can't it be that the router of your provider automatically forwards to your server if someone uses one of the 5 ips?	06:44
largos	chuen: ark is one gui -- there are probably other graphical wrappers for it	06:45
firecrotc1	largos: as far as I know, there is 1 NIC	06:45
largos	chuen: as hatta said, command line is fairly easy for most tasks	06:45
jamrs	eihnat: not how to fix it... lol i cant believe that i am going to have to use the gentoo cd to fix my kubuntu install	06:45
chuen	largos: Tha'ts what I thought - just wondred why ARK wouldn't work.	06:45
chuen	largos: OK.	06:45
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largos	firecrotc1: you'll need to look into enabling virtual interfaces (I think that's what they're called)	06:45
largos	chuen: that's why I don't usually use graphical wrapper apps :) they often don't work..	06:46
chuen	largos: LOL. I'm learning ;-)	06:46
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firecrotc1	largos: that's the thing - I've looked at several sources, and I just plain don't get it	06:47
Dr_willis	!info unp	06:47
ubotu	unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB	06:47
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eihnat	jamrs: what happened to ur grub?	06:48
Rob-West	:) :) :) :)	06:48
firecrotc1	largos: all I can basically tell is that I'll end up with a total of 5 interfaces, eth0:1, eth0:2, etc	06:48
jamrs	eihnat: installed windows	06:48
jamrs	this is my drive for class	06:48
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jamrs	and they are constantly having us put different things on it	06:49
eihnat	http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation	06:49
andreasw	firecrotc1: and now you can assign ip addresses to the alias interfaces	06:49
eihnat	jamrs: hope will help.	06:49
mauro	chuen: if you installed unrar ark should extract rars normally	06:49
firecrotc1	andreasw: okay, I'm definitely going to have to do some more reading :)	06:50
jamrs	ah	06:50
jamrs	i did setup (hd0,1)	06:50
jamrs	i needed to just do hd0	06:50
jamrs	bbl	06:50
eihnat	jamrs: either i think there is some other method, but dunno. never had to do that. ;)	06:50
andreasw	firecrotc1: you configure the aliases like normal interfaces	06:50
unknownid	jamrs: hi, it happend to me too, it's easy to fix don't stress	06:51
firecrotc1	andreasw: I don't know how to configure normal interfaces either :(	06:51
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unknownid	jamrs: just can't remember how	06:51
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chuen	mauro: I installed the free version - does it make any difference?	06:52
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Pekke	why does it log out after changing the desktop settings?	06:52
blue\|palm	what is the linux version of windows' xcopy?	06:52
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Dr_willis	man cp	06:55
mauro	chuen: i heard comments that it doesnt really work to well, i sugget you install the plain rar, even if its not free	06:55
mauro	blue\|palm: what does xcopy do ?	06:55
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firecrotc1	Oh wow, that was easier than I thought it would be	06:55
eihnat	chuen: yeah, free unrar cant open sometimes some rar files.	06:56
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andreasw	firecrotc1: ifconfig eth0:1 inet 192.168.178.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up would set the network address + netmask	06:56
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Dr_willis	ive used winrar.exe in wine befor. :)	06:57
firecrotc1	andreasw: thanks :)	06:57
andreasw	just had a con lost	06:57
firecrotc1	I noticed	06:57
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CVirus	!flash	06:57
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	06:57
andreasw	and if the settings work you can make entries in /etc/network/interfaces	06:58
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firecrotc1	andreasw: what purpose does that serve?	07:01
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andreasw	firecrotc1: the settings you make with ifconfig are lost whenever you restart so you put it into interfaces so at a reboot these settings will be automatically be made	07:02
firecrotc1	Ah, gotcha	07:02
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firecrotc1	It seems to only be partly working... I can ping the addresses, but attempting to access it in a web browser fails (I do have it set up in apache already)	07:03
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shinigami	hi .. i'm using firefox in kubuntu dapper.. when i load http://www.swisscash.biz/ , it hit into a mobile site. But when i used Windows IE, it turn out to be normal. How come?	07:07
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firecrotc1	shinigami: my guess is they're filtering the content based on the user-agent string	07:09
eihnat	firecrotc1: check if u haveDNS servers setup properly DNS	07:09
mauro	shinigami: with konqueror it sends me to mobile too	07:10
mauro	let me try opera	07:10
kalle_	Whats the shortcut for gnome-terminal? :o	07:10
firecrotc1	shinigami: it works if you send an IE user-agent	07:10
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shinigami	firecrotc1: i can edit the identification in konqueor	07:11
firecrotc1	eihnat: my problem has nothing to do with DNS servers, I'm accessing the server via it's IP addresses	07:11
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shinigami	but i can't do it in firefox.. how?	07:11
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shinigami	wait	07:11
firecrotc1	shinigami: I beleive there is an extension called User Agent Switcher	07:11
blue\|palm	does anybody else experience problems trying to play files with mplayer?	07:11
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blue\|palm	or am i just missing codecs or something?	07:11
shinigami	if u add Browser identification at konqueor to internet explorer 6 XP it can work	07:12
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shinigami	User Agent Switcher........ yes..how to install?	07:12
firecrotc1	Let me find it for you	07:12
eihnat	blue\|palm: what error u get?	07:12
n0ne	i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/	07:12
firecrotc1	shinigami: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/	07:13
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blue\|palm	eihnat: error opening/initializing the selected video out	07:13
chuen	mauro: Thanks (had to answer the door)	07:13
chuen	einhat: Thanks.	07:13
n0ne	i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/	07:13
blue\|palm	eihnat: mp3 files play but only after giving an error	07:14
mauro	chuen: no prob, thats why we people at the IRC are for	07:14
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eihnat	blue\|palm: had same problem. cant remember if i sorted it out. i think somethink else was using video. is anything runnin. like kaffeine	07:15
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n0ne	i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/	07:15
shinigami	ok installed	07:16
blue\|palm	only amarok in the background	07:16
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shinigami	firefox just crash when i try to switch to windows xp	07:16
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blue\|palm	eihnat: only amarok in the background	07:16
shinigami	konqueor doesn't..	07:16
eddy__	LOL	07:16
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eddy__	hello to all	07:16
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n0ne	i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/	07:17
chuen	mauro: This is the most supportive channel I've been on.	07:17
chuen	mauro: doesn't treat newbz condcendingly.	07:17
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tzbishop	I have a notebook which shares a folder called Pictures. I can see it and modify everything via smb:// on Konqueror. How could I share my $HOME folder with the notebook?	07:17
snowice	I'm planning on buying a hd enclosure, is there anything I shoould bear in mind in terms of kubuntu support?	07:18
n0ne	i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/	07:18
Dr_willis	n0ne, it used to work? the error seems to imply some video card driver/gl issue	07:18
sampan	snowice like a USB enclosure for a HD?	07:18
n0ne	yea, before patch it worked	07:18
firecrotc1	snowice: you should have no problems	07:19
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Dr_willis	this patch just came out?	07:19
n0ne	but when i've patched it to latest version it's started to crash with this error	07:19
n0ne	nop, i think it's a pretty old patch	07:19
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tzbishop	I have a notebook which shares a folder called Pictures. I can see it and modify everything via smb:// on Konqueror. How could I share my $HOME folder with the notebook?	07:20
Dr_willis	I would have to say redownload/install the full version with the patches allready init.	07:20
Dr_willis	I got silverback 2E working here	07:20
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n0ne	can u give me link to fully patched game please?	07:21
snowice	sampan, that's right, I would like to buy an enclosure to fit a seagate hard disk I still have, preferably one that also has the option to connect to the LAN	07:21
n0ne	i can't find it :(	07:21
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n0ne	<Dr_willis> can u give me link to fully patched game please?	07:22
shinigami	hi my firefox doesn't load www.swisscash.biz after using the user agent to change to windows xp platform...	07:22
shinigami	can anyone try	07:22
sampan	snowice i don't know anything about connecting it to LANs, but as long as it's USB you'll be fine with using the HD on kubuntu (i have two external HDs set up this way myself)	07:22
Dr_willis	n0ne, nope.. i downloaded it a month or so ago.. so not sure where its at.	07:23
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n0ne	<Dr_willis> ok, i'll try to find, thx	07:23
Dr_willis	n0ne, let me check the installed game dir for some docs	07:23
snowice	sampan, can you put a Linux filesystem on that, I came acroos a few that requires fat32, and that would give me the creeps	07:23
n0ne	=)	07:24
Dr_willis	www.evolvedclan.com	07:24
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Dr_willis	is whare the readme says	07:24
eihnat	shinigami: that swisscash works 4 me	07:24
n0ne	thx	07:24
sampan	snowice i have one FAT and one ext3. i don't know why the ENCLOSURE would care what filesystem you use.	07:24
shinigami	eihnat: you using firefox user agent?	07:25
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eihnat	shinigami: what u mean by user agent?	07:25
n0ne	<Dr_willis> oh, is it in .RUN package or smth else?	07:25
shinigami	eihnat: if you don't use the user agent, you'll see a mobile site instead of the full site..	07:26
Dr_willis	i forget.. it was a tar.gz or self installer..	07:26
soulrider	does anyone know if there are any NES emulators for windows ?	07:26
blue\|palm	soulrider why are you asking that here?	07:26
n0ne	<Dr_willis> ok..thx	07:26
eihnat	shinigami: ah, nope then.	07:26
snowice	sampan, I think those boxes do more than just enclose the hard disk, that's why, most also mention OS support and linux is not always part of the list	07:27
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shinigami	eihnat: are u loading the full page or mobile (text base) page?	07:27
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soulrider	blue\|palm: because maybe someone knows.... ?	07:27
eihnat	shinigami: normal. just in firefox	07:27
soulrider	blue\|palm: as far as i know its not illegal if you have the games	07:27
shinigami	eihnat: are u using linux?	07:27
sampan	snowice then buy one that doesn't do 'more'? the ones i have are just simple boxes with IDE cables in the back and a USB out the back. plug-n-play after the HD is installed	07:28
blue\|palm	soulrider, i dont mean to be rude or anything, its just that this is a linux channel :) But yes there are for windows	07:28
eihnat	shinigami: yes	07:28
soulrider	well, i want one for linux :P	07:28
Dr_willis	google is our friend	07:28
eddy__	lol	07:28
Dr_willis	and theres several nes/snes/other emulators out for linux	07:28
blue\|palm	soulrider, oh i completely misunderstood you, sorry! fgoogle for it	07:28
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soulrider	great Dr_willis	07:29
eddy__	nick /RotflMan	07:29
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Bizzeh	hey	07:29
Bizzeh	just got kubuntu installed	07:29
shinigami	ok somehow it worked	07:29
shinigami	haha	07:29
Dr_willis	and many programs are front ends to emulators with just command line options	07:29
Bizzeh	and managed to get my wireless working	07:29
eddy__	i've got it	07:29
blue\|palm	what driver is reccommended to be used by mplayer?	07:29
Bizzeh	thing is, i cant manage to get my 2 media drives to mount so i can actualy use them	07:29
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blue\|palm	what 'video' driver is reccommended to be used by mplayer?	07:29
manwithaface	Bizzeh, what are their formats?	07:30
snowice	sampan, okay, thanks for your advice	07:30
Bizzeh	ntfs	07:30
eddy__	Does Kubuntu support wireless as WPA-PSK?	07:30
Bizzeh	they mount	07:30
Bizzeh	i just cant access	07:30
manwithaface	ntfs is read-only	07:30
Bizzeh	says i dont have permition	07:30
Bizzeh	i know	07:30
blue\|palm	eddy__ yes but you have to go through alot of trouble to activate it	07:30
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manwithaface	they must be mounted under root	07:30
Bizzeh	yes	07:30
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Bizzeh	i did that	07:30
Bizzeh	and when i try to use them as a normal user	07:31
blue\|palm	I was too lazy so i just changed my wifi network security to WEP	07:31
Bizzeh	i get permition denied	07:31
manwithaface	you need to give users read access	07:31
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Bizzeh	yep	07:31
Bizzeh	i know	07:31
Bizzeh	but i dont know how	07:31
manwithaface	ok	07:31
eddy__	Blue Palm can you tell me a link or other of forums where i can know the right procedure for configurate it?	07:31
eddy__	TX	07:31
blue\|palm	!wifi	07:31
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	07:32
blue\|palm	there you go	07:32
eddy__	wow tx very much	07:32
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blue\|palm	no prob	07:32
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magnus_	newbie: When I log in to another machine running Kubuntu I now get problems that after adding the correct password the screen is flashing a little bit and then I am back on the login page... My theory is eithr disc space problems or wrong set up for the screen... Any advice Failsafe mode works	07:32
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rockzman	How Can I load my AR5212 module to have my minipci up, I dunno its module name	07:32
manwithaface	Bizzet, open a Konsole and type sudo kate /etc/fstab	07:32
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Bizzeh	yep	07:33
manwithaface	Bizzet, nvm	07:33
manwithaface	instead run sudo konqueror	07:33
manwithaface	you can do it through the GUI	07:33
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Bizzeh	ok, running konq as sudo now	07:34
manwithaface	try to access your drives	07:34
manwithaface	did that work?	07:34
blue\|palm	hmm... does anybody know how to solve choppy video playback in mplayer?	07:35
Bizzeh	yes, i can access as sudo	07:35
manwithaface	ok	07:35
manwithaface	do you want to access as normal user?	07:35
manwithaface	or just when sudo'd?	07:35
Bizzeh	read only when normal user so i can watch video and play music	07:35
manwithaface	ok	07:35
manwithaface	right-click your drive	07:36
manwithaface	still in the sudo konq	07:36
Bizzeh	yep	07:36
manwithaface	and permissions	07:36
Bizzeh	yep	07:36
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manwithaface	set others to can view content	07:36
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Bizzeh	"could not change permitions for /media/tv"	07:37
blue\|palm	!video	07:37
ubotu	For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications	07:37
eihnat	heh, funny quiestion. does anyone know how can i change user password from live CD? just installed kubuntu and managed to misspell password	07:37
eihnat	so cant login	07:37
rockzman	How Can I load my AR5212 module to have my minipci up, I dunno its module name	07:37
manwithaface	bizzeh, you are sudo?	07:37
Bizzeh	yep	07:37
mikki	is LimeWire available for linux ?	07:37
manwithaface	hmm	07:38
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Bizzeh	i can navigate the drive in konq as sudo	07:38
eihnat	mikki: kinda, something similar, cant remember how it's called	07:38
Bizzeh	it just wont let me set the permitions	07:38
eihnat	i think frostwire or something	07:38
manwithaface	mikki just do torrent	07:38
mikki	eihnat: ok, thx	07:38
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blue\|palm	!driver	07:39
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:39
manwithaface	bizzeh, just for fun, go over to mounting and see if doing mount as read-only does anythign	07:39
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blue\|palm	!ati	07:40
magnus_	is there a good way to delete temp files	07:40
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	07:40
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manwithaface	Bizzeh, if you want, try changing the owner from root to your username	07:41
manwithaface	in the lower box	07:41
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cyber-hazard	goodmorning, guys	07:41
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frojnd	hello, what means Option"Protocol""ImPS/2" in sectio inputdevice (mouse)	07:42
manwithaface	!ntfs	07:42
ubotu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse	07:42
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Bizzeh	manwithaface: on mount permitions it says "root user only, may disable/enable"	07:43
shinigami	hi.. i was thinking of installing kubuntu edgy on my acer laptop..but my laptop is a duel core. which edgy should i download? i386 or amd64 or powerpc?	07:43
shinigami	hi.. i was thinking of installing kubuntu edgy on my acer laptop..but my laptop is a dual core. which edgy should i download? i386 or amd64 or powerpc?	07:43
Dr_willis	stick to 386	07:43
Morbo	I would suggest i386	07:43
eddy__	i386 i suppose	07:43
shinigami	ok actually i installed dapper i386 on my acer laptop.. it only shows one cpu	07:44
manwithaface	Bizzeh, mount permissions?	07:44
shinigami	that's why i reinstalling edgy in	07:44
shinigami	how come it only show one cpu?? what should i do?	07:44
shinigami	how can i get the kernel with smp support?	07:45
Morbo	Probably because you do not have the smp kernel	07:45
Bizzeh	in "Disk and Filesystems"	07:45
shinigami	do i have to get it manually like..apt-get install something?	07:45
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Dr_willis	!smp	07:45
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:45
frojnd	I wanna instal twin look so I have to edit xorg.conf and Change my protocol: Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" into:"Protocol""ImPS/2" in sectio inputdevice (mouse), what's the difference between explorerPS/2 and IMPS/2 ?	07:46
Morbo	shinigami- You have AMD or Intel?	07:46
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shinigami	intel	07:47
manwithaface	Bizzeh, I don't know, maybe someone else knows more	07:47
Morbo	sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp	07:47
Morbo	shinigami- /\	07:47
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shinigami	oic.. ok hope it work	07:47
soulrider	i just installed visualboyadvance, but i cant find what the command to rin it is	07:48
soulrider	nevermind	07:48
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shinigami	btw, what's the difference between apititude and apt-get ? text and menu?	07:48
frojnd	has anyone manage to install twin view LCD and SRT monitor?	07:49
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extern	when I try to empty my trash, it says that access is denied to /home/user_name/.local/share/files/folder	07:50
manwithaface	!apt	07:50
ubotu	APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)	07:50
extern	the file/folder doesn't even exist there	07:50
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extern	how could I fix this?	07:50
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shinigami	anyone got experience in installing kubuntu in acer laptops? how do i get the webcam, function keys, soft switches working? any all-in-one package?	07:51
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shinigami	!acer	07:52
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about acer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:52
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shinigami	!laptop	07:52
ubotu	Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org	07:52
manwithaface	!linux-laptop	07:52
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-laptop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:52
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tzbishop	I can see my Ubuntu computer on the notebook running win, but 'it doesn't have permission to access files on that remote directory'. How to fix it?	07:53
posingaspopular	anyone here willing to help me out with a little computer trouble?	07:53
cyber-hazard	tzbishop: you running samba on the laptop?	07:53
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cyber-hazard	posingaspopular: go ahead and post the question, and someone who knows will answer :)	07:54
tzbishop	cyber-hazard: no. no samba on the laptop	07:54
tzbishop	cyber-hazard: running samba just on my GNU/Linux Ubuntu desktop	07:54
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cyber-hazard	tzbishop: that's what I meant. sorry, been a long couple days. have you setup directories to be shared?	07:55
hyper_ch	whats the program's name that defines the default programs for kde appz?	07:55
tzbishop	cyber-hazard: I setup "Pictures" directory (/home/tzbishop/Pictures) to be available via swat (GUI interface)	07:55
cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: do you need the actual programs name, or just need to know how to get to that interface?	07:56
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tzbishop	I can access this via konqueror normally: smb://linux-desktop/PICTURES	07:56
cyber-hazard	tzbishop: sorrry, that's about as far as my knowledge goes in that subject :( not very knolwedgable with samba yet	07:56
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hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: the actual program name as I run xubuntu but like quite a few kde appz	07:57
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cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: the "about" section in the help of that program just calls in the KDE Component Chooser	07:58
posingaspopular	My problem is that when I try and boot my Kubuntu system, after the log in (where I chose the user etc) my computer crashes. If it gets that far. Most of the time I hit the boot button on my computer and it doesn't respond at all. When it does boot, and I check the BIOS, the computer/mobo whatever tells me that 'due to an improper CPU speed, the system hung on last boot' or something to that degree. I changed the CPU s	07:58
posingaspopular	help the problem much. My brother tells me it's the kernel panicing, but I don't think so, I think it's my CPU (AMD Athlon 3200 XP+), but I don't know. I'm lost.	07:58
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hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: in Kontact, where would that be?	07:59
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n0ne	<Dr_willis> are u here?	08:00
cyber-hazard	posingaspopular: I don't know off the top of my head, but I remember seeing a few things about Athlon XP's kernel panicing. try typing the exact error in google.com/linux. that's what I did and if I recall the answer was in the first few matches	08:00
floriwi	hello	08:00
cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: i found it in the Control Center under Program Defaults, but I think that might just be a Kubuntu specific thing. not really sure otherwise.	08:00
floriwi	i have a question	08:01
posingaspopular	<cyber-hazard> thanks. I'll try that.	08:01
n0ne	<Dr_willis> man i need ya	08:01
n0ne	:P	08:01
cyber-hazard	posingaspopular: np, wish i could have helped more	08:01
hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: what's the program's name?	08:01
hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: what binary is being called when you select that menu entry from the control center?	08:01
animimotus	hi	08:02
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animimotus	does audiokonverter still maintained ?	08:03
andrea	hello	08:04
andrea	\server	08:04
andrea	\server irc.whiffle.org	08:04
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frojnd	how can I fix that: I buy new LCD and settings are still for the old one. like section "screen" Monitor "ADI MS-5P+" ....	08:04
frojnd	I bought* sorry for crappy englisg	08:05
cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: ps aux shows: systemsettings -caption System Settings -icon systemsettings -miniicon systemsettings	08:05
andrea	\list	08:05
rexbron	dpkg-reconfigure xorg	08:05
cyber-hazard	andrea: needs to be a forward slash /	08:05
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LjL	and i wouldn't do that anyway	08:06
voicu	hi, i installed firestarter recently and i'm curious: if someone attempts to connect to a port labeled VNC, Ms-sql-s or webadmin and so on, he doesn't have really good intentions right?	08:06
animimotus	I search somethings to transform wav to mp3 easyly with a gui	08:06
voicu	because i get tons of those and i'm starting to get paranoid :D	08:06
hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: nothing found "systemsettings"	08:06
cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: don't know what else to tell you. that's all I'm finding	08:07
hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: but kde-systemsettings --> apt-cache search systemsettings :)	08:07
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cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: that last line made no sense to me. explain?	08:08
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voicu	i mean, is it normal for random boxes to connect to the 1433 or 5900 port? if yes, why?	08:08
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hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: I couldn't find any systemsettings binary... but a search through the package cache returned kde-systemsetttings	08:09
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cyber-hazard	voicu: it's really not that much of a concern unless you see multiple attempts from one host on the same or grouped ports, you might have a concern. random scanning happens all the time though	08:09
cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: ah, okay. didn't know if you were asking me to run a command or you found something :)	08:09
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hyper_ch	cyber-hazard: thx for the help :)	08:11
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VSpike	I'm getting "Unknown error 255" from K3b on a vanilla kubuntu system.. can anyone help me out? Debug output at http://pastebin.co.uk/9061	08:11
voicu	cyber-hazard: well, yesterday the WAN fell because of an attack on my computer. today i configured the firewall and i'm getting from 2 to 20 attempts from the same ip	08:11
cyber-hazard	hyper_ch: np	08:11
cyber-hazard	voicu: then that could be an issue. what kind of attack was it?	08:11
eihnat	voicu: put that ip in hosts.deny	08:12
voicu	i don't remember how it is called but it involves pinging to the broadcast address of the WAN	08:12
voicu	that's what happened	08:12
eihnat	voicu: also dependes on kind of atack if u'll be able to fully protect urself	08:12
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voicu	all ports are now blocked except the ones for torrents, direct connect and warcraft 3 :D	08:13
cyber-hazard	voicu: sending massive amounts of large pings? sounds like a DoS	08:13
voicu	not large pings, ping to the broadcast address that causes the network to ping itself until it fails to work properly	08:13
angasule_	I wanted to edit /etc/sudoers so I changed the permission from 0440 to 0640, little did I know that sudo would then refuse to work (since it checks for /etc/sudoers to be 0440), how do I change it back? reboot and rescue CD? or is there some way that doesn't involve a reboot?	08:14
voicu	that's like each computer pinging each other computer	08:14
voicu	angasule_: try booting in recovery mode	08:14
cyber-hazard	voicu: still a denial of service	08:14
voicu	hmm, ok, at least now i have a name for that whole mess :P	08:15
angasule_	bummer, I'll do it later today, I don't feel like rebooting	08:15
cyber-hazard	angsule_ don't need to edit permissions for sudoers file, just sudo vi it :)	08:15
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Freddy2	hi	08:15
voicu	angasule_: maybe there's a better way i'm not aware of	08:15
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angasule_	cyber-hazard: it said it was read only	08:15
cyber-hazard	voicu: try what eihnat suggested. also start googling for defenses for DoS attacks	08:16
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cyber-hazard	angasule_: sudo allows you to edit/run as root. if you're root you just :wq! when you're done editing and it will write	08:16
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cyber-hazard	angasule_: just know that it's read only for a reason. be very careful editing it	08:16
angasule_	cyber-hazard: well, too late for that anyway	08:16
voicu	cyber-hazard: there must be more than 20 ips to deny by now... anyway if there are only a few ports open i guess it's ok, right?	08:16
cyber-hazard	angasule_: i know, just for next time :)	08:17
eihnat	voicu: u can use denyhosts daemon	08:17
voicu	whoa, that reminds me, ssh is still open	08:17
rag	please help me about lsusb and usb mouse and keyboard not works for me	08:17
cyber-hazard	!security	08:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:17
rag	any led start on mouse	08:17
cyber-hazard	lame	08:17
cyber-hazard	voicu: i recommend finding a security room for more information, help and advice	08:18
rag	all usb on my laptop now works, but before it working!	08:18
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rag	not works	08:18
posingaspopular	update: my cpu is booting fine, but i fucked up my BIOS again, so my HDD won't register. but that's easier to fix	08:18
rag	nothing now, all usb havent power :) the power is the problem	08:19
eihnat	voicu: that daemon puts ip automaticly into banned ips if it tries to do bad things. also u'll have to config it.	08:19
cyber-hazard	posingaspopular: glad your cpu is working now at least. did the search come up with something useful or did you just mess with it till it worked?	08:20
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karmikaze	why is my .bash_history a binary file?	08:20
karmikaze	what am i supposed to use to read it?	08:21
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posingaspopular	cyber- I just moved it to my room and hit boot. reset the bios to default which threw my jumpers out of whack. I redid the psu wiring so my disk drive doesnt have power and etc. etc. the bios is the problem	08:21
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bipolar	Hey guys... whats the most secure way to do remote kdm logins? I'm not talking about running just one app like I can with ssh -X, but my entire desktop.	08:21
cyber-hazard	posingaspopular: if it's booting okay with your HDD unplugged, it might be a PSU issue	08:22
cyber-hazard	karmikaze: the history command in bash will display your bash history	08:22
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karmikaze	is that a recent feature enforced by bash or by *ubuntu	08:23
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cyber-hazard	karmikaze: not sure about the binary bit. only time i used my bash_history is from a bash prompt	08:23
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karmikaze	-_-	08:24
karmikaze	i always use my bash_history cos i never remember the right syntax or names of anything im executing	08:24
voicu	well, thanks all	08:25
voicu	bye	08:25
voicu	:D	08:25
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cyber-hazard	karmikaze: yeah, I do too, just with the $ history command instead of looking at the file	08:26
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DarkWizdom	how do I switch to external monitor in kubuntu? os installed on laptop of course	08:33
fr0sted	what is that message that appears in my console when running Kdetv ? the application runs and also shows tv normaly, new lines appear with the following lines: V4L2Grabber::~V4L2Grabber(): wait(). V4L2Grabber::~V4L2Grabber(): deleted	08:34
fr0sted	kdetv: WARNING: V4L2Dev::enqueueBuffer(): buffer already queued: 1	08:34
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frojnd	what sdould I put into Identifier for the monitor:	08:37
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frojnd	couse I am reconfiguring x	08:37
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frojnd	and I bought samsung: SyncMaster 940b	08:38
frojnd	should I put SyncMaster 940b into identifier?	08:38
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n0ne	Anyone here playing game Savage?	08:39
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n0ne	Anyone here playing game Savage?	08:42
stonedragon12	n0ne: I tried it yesterday the first time!	08:43
cyber-hazard	too busy with work and sudoku to play Savage :P	08:43
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n0ne	<stonedragon12> oh, maybe u can help me with installing?	08:44
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n0ne	<stonedragon12> did u install in with .run package?	08:44
stonedragon12	yep, with sudo	08:44
stonedragon12	< n0ne > but i can't bring it to work on linux after the update	08:45
stonedragon12	< n0ne > so i played it under win (shame on me)	08:45
barjoh10	hi cormir67	08:45
n0ne	<stonedragon12> same to me :(	08:45
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stonedragon12	< n0ne > cool, so we can guess it's a package failure and we should post a bug?	08:46
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n0ne	<stonedragon12> nop...cuz on some computers this package works	08:47
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barjoh10	hello alpmar89	08:48
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stonedragon12	lol kopete crashed...	08:49
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alpmar89	barjoh10 wat up cuz	08:49
barjoh10	hello cormir67	08:50
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frojnd	hello where can I sest my keyboard to layout I wanna use..	08:51
barjoh10	alpmar89 hey i am in love with ur cuz and cant stop think of her	08:51
cyber-hazard	barjoh10: that's not what love is. let ubotu tell you what love is	08:52
frojnd	now its us or smth, but I wanna make it si slovenian	08:52
cyber-hazard	!love	08:52
ubotu	Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.	08:52
frojnd	couse halg of characters I cant find	08:52
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frojnd	half*	08:52
barjoh10	alpmar89 tell me wat to do	08:52
cormir67	did u get the answers barjoh10	08:53
MikHell	Anybody knows how to go back one kernel version?	08:53
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barjoh10	cormir67 no give them to me	08:54
cormir67	i dont know	08:54
barjoh10	cyber-hazard eat something	08:55
cormir67	what r we doing? barjoh10	08:55
barjoh10	hey cormir67 the answers	08:55
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alpmar89	barjoh10 buay just go talk to she and tell she how u feel and tell she u want deh with she!	08:56
barjoh10	boay i don du that	08:56
K-Ryan	I won't ask	08:56
alpmar89	wat she seh	08:57
barjoh10	hey iam not doing nothing cormir67 just chilin out	08:57
K-Ryan	barjok10 you said you are "not doing nothing"	08:58
K-Ryan	That means you "are" doing something	08:58
K-Ryan	*barjoh10	08:58
barjoh10	nothing alpmar89 i just say yes and we r going out	08:58
barjoh10	yes k-ryan what	08:58
K-Ryan	If you are "not doing nothing" you ARE "doing something"	08:59
alpmar89	y u no stop lie battybuay barjoh10	08:59
barjoh10	hey cormir67 u no talking man i mean gail	08:59
K-Ryan	Anyone know how I can tell Adept to just apply all updates? Instead of going through each one and clicking update.	09:00
barjoh10	alpmar89 ask her ur selgf	09:00
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barjoh10	heycormir67 talk	09:02
alpmar89	barjoh10 how come i no c u with she	09:02
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freshburn	ok i have a really annoying thing that if someone could help me with id greatly appreciate	09:02
cormir67	What u wantbarjoh10	09:02
K-Ryan	What's up freshburn?	09:02
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freshburn	when im in konqueror and i click in the adress bar i want it to select all the current location	09:03
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freshburn	ive looked in settings for konq but may have missed it	09:03
K-Ryan	Just have to right click	09:03
freshburn	isntead of left	09:03
freshburn	sweet	09:03
K-Ryan	I have the same problem, it's just a Konqueror thing	09:03
K-Ryan	No, right click then click select all	09:03
barjoh10	u no wa see me whith she alpmar89	09:03
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freshburn	there has to be a way to make it act like FF, or make FF do the file managing and stuff that konw does, i really like konq but having to hold down del then backspace, then type what i want there is REALLY annoying	09:04
cormir67	What talk clearly barjoh10	09:04
barjoh10	today alpmar89 after classes i would be at the auditorioum	09:05
K-Ryan	barjoh10 why do you talk like that?	09:05
Lynoure	K-Ryan: not just him, alpmar89 too, it seems	09:05
freshburn	maybe an STD	09:05
freshburn	j/k	09:05
cormir67	Laters!barjoh10	09:05
K-Ryan	freshburn, you just can't. Right click>Select all>Backspace	09:06
K-Ryan	Yes Lynoure but he's not talking right now	09:06
barjoh10	hey cormir67 i was asking if a rat ate ur tounge cause u dont talk(type)	09:06
K-Ryan	If a rat did eat his tongue, it wouldn't explain him not typing...	09:06
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Lynoure	K-Ryan: The bigger question is why they do that talking _here_	09:06
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freshburn	does konq have any kind of scripting support? hmmm i could make a shorcut for my mid mouse button to do rt click select all backspace? is that possible?	09:07
barjoh10	heyk-Ryan how or what u mean by that	09:07
K-Ryan	possibly	09:07
K-Ryan	barjoh10 do you speak English?	09:08
K-Ryan	As your first language that is.	09:08
barjoh10	yes but i am not talking to u so shush! ok	09:09
K-Ryan	If you speak English as your first language, you have two options.	09:09
barjoh10	understand K-ryan	09:09
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Lynoure	barjoh10: Do you need help with Kubuntu?	09:09
K-Ryan	A Talk right, or B Learn how to talk right then see A	09:09
barjoh10	no thanks Lynoure	09:09
K-Ryan	Then you shouldn't be here barjoh10	09:10
K-Ryan	This channel is for people who need help with Kubuntu.	09:10
K-Ryan	...who speak English	09:10
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alpmar89	Lynoure and Kryan who is this?	09:10
barjoh10	y k-ryan iam talking to alpmar89 is that u i guess not	09:11
Lynoure	alpmar89: Who is who?	09:11
K-Ryan	If you don't need help with Kubuntu go talk somewhere else.	09:11
Zamber	anybody with beryl onboard?	09:11
K-Ryan	!beryl \| Zamber	09:11
ubotu	Zamber: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl	09:11
Lynoure	alpmar89: Kubuntu is the Linux distribution this channel is all about. :)	09:11
Zamber	K-Ryan I have a working beryl with aixgl but one thing is kinda strange	09:12
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K-Ryan	Zamber I never got Beryl but I figured that might help out.	09:12
K-Ryan	Sorry	09:12
Zamber	when a window wants focus it's not blinking in the window bar	09:12
Zamber	np ;)	09:12
gdiebel	when I triple click on a line in konsole it selects the whole line. then middle clicks pastes it, but it causes a return and tries to run the line. can i paste it without the carriage return at the end?	09:12
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K-Ryan	just press ctrl+v	09:13
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K-Ryan	(to gdiebel)	09:13
freshburn	kryan wanna know 2 cool things?	09:13
K-Ryan	Sure thing	09:13
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gdiebel	K-Ryan: ctrl-v does not paste in konsole	09:14
K-Ryan	Doesn't work? Hrmm, thought you could.	09:14
freshburn	one-hit the stupid white X clear box thing and then click into the location bar	09:14
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freshburn	OR and this is the best when you click into the location bar	09:14
K-Ryan	ah, i see what you mean	09:14
freshburn	double click instead of single click	09:14
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freshburn	and it does what we wanted	09:14
gdiebel	nah that just selects a word	09:14
K-Ryan	i knew about double click	09:14
K-Ryan	if you triple click i think it selects the word	09:14
freshburn	double click selects the whole location	09:15
K-Ryan	hrmm, thats firefox i guess	09:15
K-Ryan	triple click does nothing, ignore that =P	09:15
freshburn	i just tried it	09:15
K-Ryan	yeah i tried double too	09:15
freshburn	in winblows it like double click for word triple for line	09:15
K-Ryan	was it?	09:15
K-Ryan	Oh well, we all know Linux > Micro$oft	09:16
freshburn	so if i just learn to always double click into the location bar then whatever i type will overwrite whats there	09:16
sampan	freshburn cntl-l will clear the konq location and put your cursor there (so you can type a new location)	09:16
freshburn	i can deal with that	09:16
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barjoh10	hello alpmar89 dont pay mind to those talks	09:16
freshburn	sampan hmmm thats probably good to know too thanks	09:16
alpmar89	Buay barjoh10 wat all homework we gat?	09:16
K-Ryan	barjoh10 If you are not going to talk about Kubuntu please leave.	09:16
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K-Ryan	=P	09:17
gdiebel	I think perhaps I asked in the wrong channel	09:17
barjoh10	study i guess alpmar89	09:17
freshburn	but already removed win from all 3 pcs and 2 laptop	09:17
K-Ryan	Oh wow	09:17
sampan	not quite the same as firefox's (cntl-l selects the whole location so you can cntl-c, cntl-v, cntl-x or whatever)	09:17
K-Ryan	I kept it for gaming =P	09:17
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barjoh10	no k-ryan no no	09:17
animimotus	someone use soundkonverter ?	09:17
K-Ryan	barjoh10 Yes, this channel is for Kubuntu not your little chit chat with your friend.	09:17
freshburn	i have win4linpro running xp for that	09:18
K-Ryan	Now if you aren't going to talk about Kubuntu, please leave. This is not the place for you.	09:18
freshburn	on one pc only (the kids)	09:18
animimotus	nothins seems happen :\	09:18
animimotus	+g	09:18
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freshburn	my "kid" is 4	09:18
K-Ryan	Ah	09:19
K-Ryan	I figured you meant kid by my age kind of	09:19
K-Ryan	15 almost 16	09:19
freshburn	but he is computer savvy like me	09:19
barjoh10	k-ryan i will ignore u	09:19
freshburn	shoot im only 25 wife is 21	09:19
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freshburn	now if i could get the touchpad on my hplaptop to stop pasting stuff all over i would be gold	09:19
K-Ryan	barjoh10 if you do not leave you will be removed from the channel.	09:19
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freshburn	tada /ignore barjoh10	09:20
K-Ryan	He still shouldn't be here	09:20
voicu	anyone know how to disable listing the contents of a directory in apache2 (i.e. when there isn't a index.* file)	09:20
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freshburn	agreed	09:20
alpmar89	Hey Kryan just leave us alone because we are not talking to you	09:21
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barjoh10	o tanks fresh burn ur ignored now that burns	09:21
K-Ryan	alpmar89 this channel is meant for talking about Kubuntu	09:21
K-Ryan	Not your girlfriend and homework.	09:21
K-Ryan	Take it somewhere else.	09:21
Morbo	alpmar89- I suggest #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic	09:21
K-Ryan	Morbo they are barely speaking English	09:22
Morbo	Oh. I haven't been following :)	09:22
freshburn	kittens give morbo gas	09:22
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freshburn	and not kryan is rude to foreigners	09:22
freshburn	they are just acting like little script kiddies	09:22
K-Ryan	Yeah I'll help the foreigners out	09:23
firecrotc1	!xen	09:23
ubotu	XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy	09:23
freshburn	they belong on efnet or undernet	09:23
K-Ryan	I'd even talk to them if they spoke Spanish	09:23
gdiebel	K-Ryan does not seem to realize that incessantly informing people to keep on topic is just as annoying as their offtopic chitchat	09:23
firecrotc1	!botsnack	09:23
ubotu	Yum!	09:23
freshburn	with the rest of the children	09:23
freshburn	lol	09:23
freshburn	!botbeer	09:23
K-Ryan	gdiebel They are barely speaking English, and they aren't talking about Kubuntu	09:23
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about botbeer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:23
K-Ryan	It's not the place for them	09:23
freshburn	bots need beer too	09:24
freshburn	kind of like geeks and love	09:24
freshburn	they need it too	09:24
K-Ryan	!love	09:24
ubotu	Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.	09:24
K-Ryan	That one makes me laugh =)	09:24
firecrotc1	Heh	09:24
freshburn	!windows	09:24
ubotu	For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	09:24
K-Ryan	And that one =)	09:24
freshburn	lol mental health	09:24
K-Ryan	I was about to post that one too	09:24
freshburn	!equivalents	09:24
ubotu	A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant	09:24
tobami	can someone help me getting Xephyr to run?	09:24
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K-Ryan	!Xephyr	09:25
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about Xephyr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:25
firecrotc1	!OSX	09:25
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about OSX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:25
freshburn	!dialupsucks	09:25
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dialupsucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:25
K-Ryan	!dialup	09:25
ubotu	You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto	09:25
freshburn	k im outa here	09:25
Hawkwind	!botabuse	09:25
ubotu	Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...	09:25
freshburn	cya l8tr	09:25
K-Ryan	Cya	09:25
K-Ryan	Hawkwind isn't that an oxymoron?	09:25
tobami	ubotu: thanks but I already tried	09:25
K-Ryan	"!botabuse"	09:26
K-Ryan	Think about it	09:26
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Hawkwind	K-Ryan: No. Please stop doing it in the channel and do it in pm if you wish to play	09:26
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freshburn	!abusebot	09:26
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about abusebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:26
K-Ryan	lol	09:26
freshburn	!ilovethatbot	09:26
K-Ryan	Sorry Hawkwind	09:26
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ilovethatbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:26
Hawkwind	freshburn: Enough!	09:26
tobami	lol	09:26
K-Ryan	"!mast" I'm not going to finish that one..	09:27
tobami	I fell for it	09:27
frojnd	I tried to sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg	09:28
frojnd	and: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg	09:28
frojnd	sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg	09:28
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frojnd	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1967/	09:28
frojnd	what can I do to reconfigure x :S	09:28
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fr0sted	although i removed with adept_manager mythtv , i still see mythtv rests in my computer. like: /etc/rc6.d/K24mythtv-backend how can iremove everything that has to do with mythtv ?	09:28
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binks	off topc whats the name of that flm sommat like notralibra a funny one	09:32
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soulrider	hi	09:33
paulcarpenter	notra libre?	09:33
ninHer	hi soulrider	09:33
soulrider	how can i find out what model my mobo is? i dont think i have the manual around	09:33
paulcarpenter	mobo?	09:34
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soulrider	mother board	09:34
firecrotc1	soulrider: open the case and look on the board itself	09:34
w00t_sauce	I'm having some troule setting up a dock	09:34
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soulrider	firecrotc1: i cant find the model on it	09:35
soulrider	i know its an intel board	09:35
Hawkwind	soulrider: lspci might tell you, or lshw	09:36
soulrider	hey Hawkwind	09:36
soulrider	i just found the manual :P	09:36
K-Ryan	lspci seems to work	09:36
Hawkwind	Or read the manual	09:36
K-Ryan	for me anyway	09:36
vit_	do you spanish?	09:36
K-Ryan	!es	09:36
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	09:36
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voicu	what is the Omirr port?	09:37
soulrider	yeah Hawkwind im gonna read the manual now :P	09:37
binks	aha nacho libre	09:37
K-Ryan	?	09:38
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wolfwalker	Are there no good trackers for ubuntu?	09:39
K-Ryan	trackers?	09:39
soulrider	wolfwalker: yes	09:39
soulrider	on the official site there are torrents	09:39
K-Ryan	Oh! Tracker!	09:39
binks	yeah trackers india girls whoan tell whats shoes you had on days after you left	09:39
binks	;)	09:40
wolfwalker	sigh	09:40
wolfwalker	Wrong tracker binks	09:40
wolfwalker	I mean audio trackers	09:40
wolfwalker	Like, you load a sample of one note of a piano	09:40
wolfwalker	And it can interpolate it into different keys	09:40
wolfwalker	And you slot the keys in a "track"	09:40
K-Ryan	That's neat	09:41
wolfwalker	And you overlay other tracks for different instruments	09:41
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wolfwalker	Or chords of a piano or something	09:41
wolfwalker	So no trackers for Linux?	09:41
paulcarpenter	audacity?	09:41
binks	sorry but again if its music you play you NEED fretsonfire	09:41
wolfwalker	No, not Audacity. That's a recorder/editor	09:41
wolfwalker	And a very good one	09:41
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binks	wolf you lost mee im tone deff	09:42
wolfwalker	But to use it as a sequencer or tracker would be......... tedious at best	09:42
Lynoure	wolfwalker: If you are a musician, I could need your help... May I /msg you?	09:42
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wolfwalker	Soitenly	09:44
voicu	firestarter says i'm conected to someone but netstat doesn't show anything	09:44
voicu	it on port 42101 which apparently is for ssh2 and that scares me	09:45
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voicu	how can i find out which process started the connection?	09:45
frojnd	Experienced users can use any variant supported by the selected XKB layout. If the xkeyboard-config package has been unpacked, seethe /etc/X11/xkb/symbols directory for the file corresponding to your selected layout for available variants. I eneterd /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/si couse I an from slovenia... now I am in si file and what am I looking for?	09:45
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jdfellow	i am having an intermittent sound problem please help yes i have read all the faqs etc.	09:47
voicu	is the problem intermittent or the sound? :P	09:47
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jdfellow	and i have been running various distros of linux for a while with no sound problems except this one	09:47
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paulcarpenter	what type of sound problem?	09:48
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jdfellow	when i go to play an mp3 or listen to a stream using several audio apps the sound plays and halts then plays some more	09:49
hbbk	hi	09:49
hbbk	need some help please	09:49
wolfwalker	jdfellow, that is because you are taxing your processor, probably	09:49
wolfwalker	Go easy on the poor thing	09:49
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wolfwalker	Is not so easy for an older processor with little ram to handle a lot of audio programs at once.	09:50
hbbk	I recentry upgraded from dapper to edgy and every thing seems ok except that my desktop is wider than my screen, that really annoying	09:50
jdfellow	when i restart the computer the problem is gone do not know why it starts nor how to stop it using kde system guard am running alsa	09:50
hbbk	there is no way to change that from kcontrol	09:50
jdfellow	no not even close	09:50
hbbk	thats the strangest thing	09:50
Brandano	Nicely crowded in her. Anyone can guide me through relpacing grub with lilo in a kubuntu install? grub doesn't seem to like my hpt370 fakeraid controller	09:50
jdfellow	my processor is plenty fast and i have 750 megs of memory	09:51
hbbk	any clue please	09:51
hbbk	?	09:51
wolfwalker	Ah	09:51
wolfwalker	That's different then	09:51
jdfellow	the problem goes away when i restart so what is going on?	09:51
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wolfwalker	What several audio programs, specifically, are you running at the same time?	09:52
jdfellow	sometimes it seems to happen after i start firefox	09:52
hbbk	nobody could help me ?	09:53
jdfellow	but firefox was closed and there were no processes running in the background	09:53
adaptr	I guess not	09:53
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jdfellow	hello hbbk	09:53
hbbk	hello	09:53
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wolfwalker	There's no way to change the screen size?	09:53
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hbbk	not from kcontrol at least	09:54
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hbbk	I don't find where	09:54
jdfellow	just a sec	09:54
hbbk	and I don' really whant to hand edit xorg.conf	09:54
MaxDamage``	hello to everyone :)	09:54
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jdfellow	try system settings from the menu	09:55
hbbk	there is nothing about changind screen size	09:55
jdfellow	then under Computer Administration Monitor and Display	09:56
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jdfellow	ah but there is	09:56
me_	i cant install anything anymore... could anyone help me pls... i get this error everytimes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1970/	09:56
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jdfellow	hey Admiral can you help with my sound problem	09:57
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Renaldo	me_ apt-get -f install	09:57
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raeez	could somebody assist me with video playback issues?	09:57
jdfellow	like what	09:57
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raeez	choppy video playback	09:58
raeez	only in full screen mode though	09:58
jdfellow	what player	09:58
frojnd	Experienced users can use any variant supported by the selected XKB layout. If the xkeyboard-config package has been unpacked, seethe /etc/X11/xkb/symbols directory for the file corresponding to your selected layout for available variants. I eneterd /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/si couse I an from slovenia... now I am in si file and what am I looking for?	09:58
raeez	every single one ive tried, from kaffiene through totem to mplayer	09:58
mindspin	vlc?	09:59
cj_	hi	09:59
cj_	How would i disable Xwindows/Kde from running on startup?	09:59
hbbk	I could not find any Computer Administration Monitor and Display ...	09:59
raeez	vlc works great thanks	10:00
raeez	is there any way i could get mplayer to work though?	10:00
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jdfellow	have tried mplayer using different settings for video such as x11 xv perhaps reinstalling accelerated graphic driver	10:00
cj_	How would i disable Xwindows/Kde from running on startup? <<<< Any idea?	10:00
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blue\|palm	I have experimented with the various video drivers (in mplayer) and i get error messages for all of them... i have installed and reinstalled the latest ati driver	10:01
jdfellow	oh hbbk what are we going to do	10:01
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mindspin	cj- you can log in in different modes from the welcome screen	10:01
blue\|palm	mplayer actually makes the video quality look alot nicer than vlc :( pity its not working	10:01
freshburn	does anyone use the HSF linuxant drivers?	10:01
hbbk	sorry ?	10:01
jdfellow	could you find the blue and green icon that says Computer Administration?	10:01
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jdfellow	and when you do ... there should be a heading for Monitor and Display	10:02
hbbk	yes but no way to change resolution in it !!!	10:02
me_	when i try this i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1971/	10:02
freshburn	yeah i figured that much, well when someone does tell them to email me thier license.key	10:02
freshburn	lol	10:02
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freshburn	this sucks	10:02
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jdfellow	so you are running kubuntu edgy correct so am i	10:03
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hbbk	yes	10:03
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hbbk	I have no Monitor and Display	10:03
jdfellow	do you have an icon for Monitor and Display?	10:04
blue\|palm	!aptfix	10:04
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about aptfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:04
blue\|palm	!adeptfix	10:04
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	10:04
hbbk	no	10:04
stdin	!adeptcrashfix	10:04
frojnd	When in doubt, this value should be left blank.	10:04
frojnd	Keyboard options:	10:05
frojnd	and than its:	10:05
frojnd	lv3:ralt_switch_____	10:05
frojnd	should I enter this or delite it and than press ok	10:05
jdfellow	out of curiosity what icons are there listed under Computer Administration then?	10:05
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blue\|palm	help!! i think my dpkg may be broken :(	10:05
hbbk	in fact it is in french	10:06
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blue\|palm	whenever i use apt-get to install something it crashes	10:06
jdfellow	well i have a computer screen icon with an	10:06
freshburn	bluepalm whats the error	10:07
hbbk	I have 4 rows 'personal' 'behavior' 'computer admin' 'network' (kind of easy translations :-))	10:07
jdfellow	X in it and this icon controls the monitor settings	10:07
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jdfellow	so what is listed under Computer Admin	10:07
me_	so noone has any idea to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1971/	10:08
hbbk	and I have no such icon nothing looking like managing screens	10:08
hbbk	'date' keyboard' sound printer ... thats all	10:08
jdfellow	are there 6 icons ?	10:08
hbbk	4	10:08
blue\|palm	freshburn, it repeatedly complains about dependancy problems	10:08
me_	the error was coused when i used this command: root@me-desktop:/home/me# apt-get -f install	10:08
jdfellow	then you probably need to install nvidia drivers	10:08
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hbbk	already installed ...	10:09
blue\|palm	freshburn dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of speedbar:	10:09
freshburn	me_ use the -f option	10:09
jdfellow	or what ever drivers work w/ your system then it will probably put an icon in there	10:09
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freshburn	but its a no-takebacks kind of thing	10:09
freshburn	i hope you have good backups	10:09
jdfellow	don't be affraid of xorg xorg is your friend	10:09
blue\|palm	xorg is evil with drivers	10:09
freshburn	what exactly are you wanting to install?	10:10
me_	the -f option? i used allready: apt-get -f install do u mean that?	10:10
hbbk	root@hbbk:~# dpkg -l 'nvidia' \| grep ^i	10:10
hbbk	ii nvidia-glx 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-10.1 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver	10:10
hbbk	ii nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1ubuntu7 NVIDIA binary kernel module common files	10:10
freshburn	bluepalm try using a package manager	10:10
stdin	me_: there is a way to fix that, but apt can't do it	10:10
freshburn	so it gets all dependancies	10:10
blue\|palm	well i tried to install kguitar first... that didnt work, then i tried OGRE, that didnt work, then i tried just plain upgrading...	10:10
me_	and me neither	10:11
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jdfellow	driver installation can be tricky	10:11
blue\|palm	packagemanager like adept manager	10:11
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blue\|palm	driver installation can be evil :(	10:11
stdin	me_: you need to run "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/tzdata_2006p-1_all.deb && sudo dpkg --configure -a"	10:11
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freshburn	i had the same kind of issues after screwing with my sources.lst you didnt screw with your sources.lst did you	10:11
hbbk	it worked for me 2h before when I was under dapper	10:11
jdfellow	read the tutorials on line will help very important to follow the directions to the letter	10:11
freshburn	and stdin happened to be the one who helped me fix it so listen to what he/she says lol now thats timing	10:12
blue\|palm	didnt touch it	10:12
tfault	Does anyone know how to resize a partition backwards without loosing data?	10:12
stdin	freshburn: i'm a he thanks :P	10:12
kkosmo	tfault	10:12
kkosmo	that	10:12
kkosmo	what i need	10:12
freshburn	bluepalm i have no complaints with adept other than i touch things i shouldnt and it lets me	10:12
jdfellow	anyway unless someone wants to tackle my intermittent sound glitches i am out of here	10:12
kkosmo	excectly	10:12
freshburn	yw	10:12
blue\|palm	lol	10:12
hbbk	thnks for you help	10:13
kkosmo	to resize a partiton witout loseing data	10:13
jdfellow	wish you well	10:13
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blue\|palm	stdin, could you help me? dpkg seems to be spitting errors at me whenever i try to update through apt or adept	10:13
blue\|palm	!adeptfix	10:13
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	10:13
stdin	blue\|palm: what's the errors you get ?	10:13
me_	stdin: jeeeha ty very much now its working :)	10:14
blue\|palm	stdin: example... sudo dpkg --configure -a'	10:14
freshburn	when i enter "administrator mode" to change things in system settings or when i open adept it used to ask me my password and now it doesnt, does anyone know why? and how to change it back?	10:14
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kkosmo	stdin	10:14
tfault	Do you need to expand an partition to the free space before or after a partition?	10:14
kkosmo	?	10:14
tfault	kkosmo?	10:14
blue\|palm	stdin: sorry, oops i meant this:	10:14
blue\|palm	dpkg: error processing eieio (--configure):	10:14
blue\|palm	dependency problems - leaving unconfigured	10:14
kkosmo	?	10:14
kkosmo	tfault	10:15
tfault	Do you need to expand an partition to the free space before or after a partition, kkosmo?	10:15
kkosmo	i have a partiton and a free space	10:15
stdin	blue\|palm: that just tells me that there was a problem configuring the package	10:15
kkosmo	and i want to add the free space	10:15
freshburn	is the free space before or after the partition?	10:15
kkosmo	to my partitoion	10:15
freshburn	oh just use qtparted	10:15
kkosmo	after	10:15
blue\|palm	lol thats the problem im getting	10:15
freshburn	or gparted	10:15
blue\|palm	stdin: I cant run adept or apt...	10:16
kkosmo	what changed	10:16
kkosmo	?	10:16
stdin	blue\|palm: yes, but there is more info that you aren't shoeing me :P	10:16
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blue\|palm	stdin:	10:16
blue\|palm	dpkg: error processing eieio (--configure):	10:16
blue\|palm	dependency problems - leaving unconfigured	10:16
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blue\|palm	oops sorry	10:16
blue\|palm	that was a mistake...	10:16
stdin	blue\|palm: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and give me the whole output on pastebin	10:16
jdfellow	quit	10:17
blue\|palm	ok	10:17
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w00t_sauce	I'm having some troule setting up a dock	10:18
freshburn	on which lake?	10:18
freshburn	i like to fish	10:19
freshburn	j/k	10:19
freshburn	sorry it had to be done	10:19
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tfault	kkosmo: Can you show me the output of "fdisk -l /dev/[harddisk name] " (replace [harddisk name] with something like hda, sdb..)?	10:20
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kkosmo	ok	10:20
BluesKaj	we have ppl seting up icefishing shacks on the local lakes hered , ...finally the freeze up is only 4 weeks late thei yr	10:20
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BluesKaj	this yr	10:21
kkosmo	Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40060403712 bytes	10:21
kkosmo	255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4870 cylinders	10:21
kkosmo	Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes	10:21
kkosmo		10:21
kkosmo	Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System	10:21
tfault	kkosmo: Put the output in a "paste-bin"!	10:21
kkosmo	/dev/hda1 1 2358 18940603+ 83 Linux	10:21
kkosmo	/dev/hda2 2359 2435 618502+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris	10:21
kkosmo	/dev/hda3 2436 4870 19559137+ 83 Linux	10:21
kkosmo		10:21
Hawkwind	!paste \| kkosmo	10:21
ubotu	kkosmo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	10:21
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BluesKaj	kkosmo \| pastebin!	10:21
kkosmo	ooo	10:21
kkosmo	ok	10:21
tfault	kkosmo: What partition would you like to resize?	10:22
kkosmo	i be ok	10:22
kkosmo	i use	10:22
kkosmo	qtparted	10:22
tfault	kkosmo: Okay!	10:22
BluesKaj	if the ubuntu-nl is too clogged up, use www.pastebin.ca	10:22
blue\|palm	stdin: http://pastebin.com/861599	10:22
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wilman	is there any way i can install java runtime on ubuntu edgy?	10:23
wilman	java!	10:23
wilman	!java	10:23
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository	10:23
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stdin	blue\|palm: holy c**p, you're in quite a mess there	10:24
blue\|palm	:(	10:25
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yeti_	salut tout le monde!	10:25
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blue\|palm	stdin the only thing ive tinkered with was the driver for my radeon x1900	10:26
yeti_	ahh c'est en train de me brouter la console qui veut rien savoir	10:26
stdin	!fr \| yeti_	10:26
ubotu	yeti_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	10:26
yeti_	sorry	10:26
yeti_	thanks	10:26
blue\|palm	stdin: but my kubuntu installation is terrible... from day one already	10:26
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cyber-hazard	blue\|palm: what speed did you burn kubuntu at?	10:27
soulrider	i hope for feistry they make the installer better so that you can select packages and stuff	10:27
blue\|palm	stdin: 4x	10:27
soulrider	cyber-hazard: that doesnt matter at all	10:27
cyber-hazard	soulrider: amen to that	10:27
blue\|palm	stdin: onto a RW	10:27
soulrider	it doesnt matter at what speed you burn a CD DVD or whatever	10:27
cyber-hazard	soulrider: yeah, it does. if you burn it too quickly and the burn doesn't take as well as it should then the install can become wack. trust me, it's happened to me many times	10:27
cyber-hazard	however, at x4, that's probably not the issue	10:28
blue\|palm	the cd behaved strangely, sometimes the livecd booted, but 8/10 it didnt, so i would keep restarting my pc until it did	10:28
blue\|palm	maybe thats why	10:28
soulrider	what do you mean "doesnt take as well as it should"?	10:28
blue\|palm	errors	10:28
blue\|palm	blocks skipped	10:28
soulrider	on the CD, when you boot	10:28
soulrider	you can check it for defects	10:28
cyber-hazard	soulrider: errors in the burn. sometimes the data doesn't get burned completely. incomplete blocks, etc	10:28
blue\|palm	yeah, but that too worked sometimes and sometimes it didnt	10:28
blue\|palm	lol	10:28
soulrider	well, thats not because of the speed, its your burner :P	10:29
kkosmo	s	10:29
kkosmo	a	10:29
cyber-hazard	soulrider: doesn't catch everything, though it does cause a lot	10:29
cyber-hazard	soulrider: right, but regardless, if your burner is crap, a lot of times you can correct it by burning slower	10:29
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stdin	blue\|palm: there is some problem with the pre-installation script of emacs21 that's causing all the errors there	10:30
blue\|palm	I constantly get an error when booting kubuntu from my hdd, that during the boot it gets stuck at the screen with blue 'kubuntu' text and a blue loading bar... even caps lock doesnt respond when it gets into that frozen state, so i have to constantly restart it and try again and again to get it work	10:30
blue\|palm	so how do i remove emacs from my	10:30
blue\|palm	'install' list	10:31
blue\|palm	or whatever	10:31
blue\|palm	:)	10:31
soulrider	blue\|palm: can you boot into safe mode ?	10:31
blue\|palm	yes	10:31
blue\|palm	that always works	10:31
stdin	sudo apt-get --pure remove emacs21 could work	10:31
blue\|palm	and booting into xp also works	10:31
soulrider	i would do	10:31
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soulrider	aptitude purge not apt-get --purge	10:32
soulrider	sudo aptitude purge emacs21	10:32
soulrider	blue\|palm: was it allways like that or did it use to work ?	10:32
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blue\|palm	from the time i installed it :(	10:32
blue\|palm	so always	10:32
blue\|palm	i had suse and xp before this	10:32
blue\|palm	there were no problems like this though	10:32
steevc	I'm having trouble getting X running since installing a graphics card. It's an old MX400, so I installed the nvidia-glx-legacy driver. When I run startx I get an error about not being able to start ksmserver(?) then it goes back to the console. Only error I can see in the xorg log is about the security policy file. Any ideas?	10:33
yeti_	do you know why I have this message : su: Authentication failure??	10:33
blue\|palm	souldrider: thanks, the purge worked	10:33
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yeti_	I have enter the good password	10:33
kkosmo	stdin	10:33
soulrider	blue\|palm: i would suggest burning it again, on a CD-R not a RW (sometimes RW can be a POS)	10:33
kkosmo	??	10:33
soulrider	and reinstalling	10:33
cyber-hazard	i just wanna say, the fact that my iPod works out of the box on kubuntu is effing brilliant	10:34
blue\|palm	yeah, but i dloaded so much now that it would have all gone to a waste :( Ive got capped internet	10:34
cyber-hazard	makes me so happy	10:34
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stdin	yeti_: use sudo not su	10:34
blue\|palm	cyber-hazard did you use amarok?	10:34
sergio	#ubuntu-it	10:34
kkosmo	somone can help me i have a problem i delete a partiton in cfdisk its show me that have free space from deleted partiton i am quit from the cfdisk and its show agein the partiton that i delete what i need to do ?	10:34
yeti_	ok I'ill try	10:34
soulrider	blue\|palm: what kind of connection do you have ?	10:35
stdin	kkosmo: you need to write the changes before you quit cfdisk	10:35
kkosmo	ooo ok	10:35
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blue\|palm	4 Mbps dload 384k upload 10GB cap	10:35
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kkosmo	but its dont destroy	10:35
kkosmo	my information	10:35
kkosmo	on the	10:35
cyber-hazard	blue\|palm: yes I do	10:35
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kkosmo	hda1	10:35
kkosmo	?	10:35
soulrider	oh, the cap sucks	10:35
stdin	yeti_: the way to get a root shell is: sudo -i	10:35
soulrider	blue\|palm: do you still have the image on your hard drive or did you delete it ?	10:35
blue\|palm	I still have it, i wouldnt delete it	10:36
soulrider	ahh	10:36
frojnd	please help	10:36
blue\|palm	nice os :)	10:36
soulrider	i would suggest doing this blue\|palm	10:36
blue\|palm	wish it would work though	10:36
dwidmann	blue\|palm: that cap hurts almost as bad as mine	10:36
blue\|palm	lol, it sucks	10:36
soulrider	heck the md5 sum, if its all good, burn it into a CD-R	10:36
blue\|palm	k	10:36
soulrider	at a slower speed just in case	10:36
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blue\|palm	is there no way i can save the stuff ive dloaded?	10:36
kkosmo	stdin	10:37
blue\|palm	can i make my own cdr repository or something?	10:37
soulrider	blue\|palm: the programs you mean ?	10:37
kkosmo	you mean to make the root user	10:37
blue\|palm	yeah	10:37
kkosmo	to get root shell	10:37
soulrider	sure you can :)	10:37
mace__	hi what can i do here: kdesu: cannot connect to X serve	10:37
blue\|palm	Ive dloaded about 1 GB	10:37
blue\|palm	thats 10% of this month's cap	10:37
soulrider	do you have a usb drive or something to put them in ?	10:37
blue\|palm	yes	10:37
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soulrider	great!	10:37
stdin	kkosmo: no, you don't need to enable root to get a root shell	10:37
blue\|palm	ive got plenty of space. i just dont know how to do it	10:37
soulrider	make sure it has enough space	10:37
soulrider	and ill guide you through it	10:37
kkosmo	oo ok	10:37
blue\|palm	k, that would be great!!!	10:37
dwidmann	when burning, be sure to check "verify written data"	10:37
kkosmo	damn how i can resize my partiton	10:38
soulrider	blue\|palm: :)	10:38
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frojnd	I cant find for adi micro HorizSync and VertRefresh. I just know that monitor is crt and its 17"	10:38
blue\|palm	can you make your own apt repositories though?	10:38
yeti_	yes!! it's the good command	10:38
blue\|palm	because that would be awesome!	10:38
dwidmann	kkosmo: "sudo su -"	10:38
soulrider	blue\|palm: you can, i dont know how, but we can copy the debs in a way that when apt will try to download it, it will see they have already been downlaoded	10:38
soulrider	so you dont have to worry	10:38
blue\|palm	ok, even better	10:39
soulrider	ok	10:39
stdin	kkosmo: "sudo -i" is the correct way	10:39
soulrider	heres how it works	10:39
blue\|palm	where do all the apt-get programs go anyway?	10:39
soulrider	wheny ou download an update or program or whatever	10:39
mace__	what can i do here: kdesu: cannot connect to X serve	10:39
soulrider	apt downlaods the deb package	10:39
yeti_	but I haven't got the permition for install beryl :(	10:39
blue\|palm	yes	10:39
soulrider	but it keeps it in a directory	10:39
soulrider	what were gonna do is copy the debs	10:39
dwidmann	sudo -i doesn't give you the whole root environment if I remember right	10:39
kkosmo	i have problem i have free space and i want to add it to my partiton witout losing data how can i do this i download now the qtparted but how i can do that	10:39
kkosmo	?	10:39
soulrider	and once youve reinstalled	10:39
blue\|palm	ok	10:39
soulrider	copy them back	10:39
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blue\|palm	that simple :)	10:39
soulrider	so when it wants the updates it doesnt have to download it	10:40
soulrider	yes, simple indeed	10:40
blue\|palm	just tell me where then?	10:40
yeti_	it's a probleme	10:40
stdin	mace__: how are you starting it ?	10:40
soulrider	well, the files are stored in /var/apt/cache i believe, but io need to double check	10:40
dwidmann	hmm, maybe it does	10:40
mace__	stdin: "desu kate"	10:40
mace__	kdesu	10:40
stdin	mace__: are you are logged in as the normal user ?	10:40
soulrider	blue\|palm: sorry, theya re in /var/cache/apt/archives	10:40
mace__	stdin: yes	10:41
soulrider	just copy them to somewhere and after reinstalling just copy them back	10:41
stdin	mace__: dose it work from the run dialogue ?	10:41
blue\|palm	lol, im new to linux (3 days) so whats the linux equivalent of windows' xcopy?	10:41
soulrider	ahh	10:41
soulrider	ok	10:41
blue\|palm	yes, im a new convert	10:41
soulrider	where do you want to copy them to ?	10:41
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mace__	stdin: yes its working	10:42
kkosmo	stdin	10:42
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blue\|palm	soulrider /media/sdb1/linux	10:42
kkosmo	you see my other problem	10:42
kkosmo	?	10:42
soulrider	ok	10:42
soulrider	youre gonna have to do	10:42
soulrider	sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives /media/sdb1/linux	10:42
blue\|palm	lol cp = copy	10:42
blue\|palm	im dumb :)	10:42
soulrider	yes	10:42
soulrider	uhm	10:42
soulrider	wait	10:43
soulrider	hold on, im not too sure if thats gonna work	10:43
blue\|palm	ill try	10:43
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kkosmo	that work	10:43
soulrider	im not too used to the CLI either	10:43
kkosmo	cp work	10:43
kkosmo	if you do	10:43
soulrider	ok	10:43
stdin	kkosmo: you have free space and you want to make a partition bigger ?	10:43
kkosmo	cp /home/user/ss /home/user/sssla	10:43
kkosmo	yes	10:43
Kr4t05	Some recent upgrades have affected my stability, causing my system to crash to KDM randomly.	10:43
kkosmo	stdin thats exectly what i want to do	10:43
Kr4t05	Anyone else have this problem?	10:44
mace__	stdin: hm perhaps i ve to configure the x-server?	10:44
stdin	kkosmo: you can do that in qt/gparted , just choose to resize the partition	10:44
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kkosmo	but this option	10:44
kkosmo	not enable	10:44
kkosmo	i think its becouse	10:44
stdin	mace__: what user are you logged in as, and what user name do you see in konsole	10:44
kkosmo	i used now	10:44
kkosmo	in this partiton	10:44
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stdin	kkosmo: you can't do ir while the system is booted, use the live cd	10:45
blue\|palm	hmm it is saying cp: omitting directory `/var/cache/apt/archives	10:45
kkosmo	ok	10:45
kkosmo	i try live cd	10:45
soulrider	blue\|palm: go tot he destination and see if theya re in there	10:45
stdin	blue\|palm: cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/sdb1/linux	10:45
kkosmo	!livecd	10:45
ubotu	Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.	10:45
kkosmo	i want	10:45
kkosmo	somthing	10:45
mace__	stdin: im logged in as "mace", not as root. mace@mace-laptop.de	10:45
kkosmo	sec	10:45
blue\|palm	thanks stdin	10:46
stdin	mace__: try closing konsole, and do the command again	10:46
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blue\|palm	its busy	10:46
blue\|palm	thanks soulrider too	10:46
natham	hi, i want to mount a usb drive at kubuntu but i cant, i cant find the device at /dev	10:46
soulrider	blue\|palm: its copying ?	10:46
blue\|palm	yes	10:46
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soulrider	natham: it should be /dev/sd something	10:46
kkosmo	!custom-livecd	10:47
soulrider	try sda1	10:47
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about custom-livecd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:47
stdin	natham: what do you mean you can't find the device, what were you looking foe ?	10:47
mace__	stdin: working :)	10:47
blue\|palm	wow thanks, you guys have saved me from redownloading 1.1 GB...	10:47
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natham	stdin i plug the device, and im want to know how to mount it	10:47
soulrider	blue\|palm: make sure it copied everything	10:47
soulrider	just in case	10:48
stdin	mace__: if you switch user, or even login twice as the same user, you won't be able to open a GUI	10:48
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soulrider	natham: didnt a window in KDE pop up ?	10:48
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mace__	stdin: ok, thanks	10:48
natham	soulrider no it didnt	10:48
soulrider	ok	10:48
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BluesKaj	natham, system menu/storage media..it should be listed	10:48
soulrider	natham: do you have a location to mount it to ?	10:48
stdin	natham: look in /var/log/messages, it should tell you in there	10:48
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soulrider	blue\|palm: good luck reinstalling, and remember, ubuntu is better than suse :P	10:49
natham	system menu /media i only got floppy	10:49
natham	checking out messages	10:49
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natham	Jan 17 16:23:28 localhost kernel: [4294963.100000] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2Jan 17 16:23:28 localhost kernel: [4294963.195000] scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devicesJan 17 16:23:28 localhost usb.agent[21402] : usb-storage: already loadedJan 17 16:23:33 localhost kernel: [4294968.184000] usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 2	10:50
blue\|palm	hehe. in 3 days i agree...	10:50
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soulrider	blue\|palm: i used suse and ubuntu is a lot better	10:50
blue\|palm	well i loved kubuntu... when it worked!	10:51
soulrider	that Yast thing sucks, its slow and buggy	10:51
soulrider	at leats it wa sin the version i tried	10:51
blue\|palm	apt is like adream	10:51
soulrider	lol	10:51
soulrider	just remember everyone at the IRc cna help you	10:51
blue\|palm	im serious	10:51
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soulrider	and the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org are grat	10:51
soulrider	great*	10:51
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blue\|palm	thanks again, i think im gna go burn that cd... Ive got both the amd64 versions and the 32 bit version (im running 32 bit) which should i go for?	10:52
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soulrider	32 bit	10:52
blue\|palm	ok	10:52
stdin	blue\|palm: if you want flash and media support, you want 32bit :P	10:52
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blue\|palm	oh, well definitely :)	10:52
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stdin	natham: what type of device is it ?	10:53
anouk	hello	10:53
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blue\|palm	thanks, im gna go back to windows :( and burn my cd's (i havent mounted my ntfs drive coz im too scared atm)	10:53
stdin	blue\|palm: linux (by default) has read only support for ntfs, so you can't do any damage :)	10:54
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blue\|palm	Last thing, does anybody else have choppy video playback in mplayer in kubuntu in fullscreen?	10:54
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soulrider	blue\|palm: i use VLC	10:54
blue\|palm	i have it too, but i prefer mplayer	10:55
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blue\|palm	mplayer's post-processing looks better	10:55
blue\|palm	waaay better	10:55
stdin	mplayer is my favourite :)	10:55
blue\|palm	stdin did you get it working on kubuntu?	10:55
Kr4t05	As I was saying before, I'm having X stability problems. If I so much as look at my computer cross-eyed, it keels over and spits me back out at the KDM login screen. The only problem that I could see would either be an xorg.conf error, or an upgrade that I performed last night.	10:55
stdin	blue\|palm: mplayer? yeah, I always use it	10:55
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dwidmann	mplayers post-processing is ffmpeg based ... so I assume xine and gstreamer and the like can take advantage of it too	10:56
soulrider	Kr4t05: i suggest reconfiguring xorg and see if it fixes it	10:56
soulrider	i upadted last night too and didnt have any issues	10:56
stdin	Kr4t05: look at the log files too	10:56
blue\|palm	stdin i have a radeon x1900 and the latest driver installed yet i get slow and jerky playback in fullscreen? how?	10:56
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Kr4t05	stdin: Where are those, again?	10:56
dwidmann	blue\|palm: I know how ... ATI quality video drivers	10:57
stdin	Kr4t05: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.1.log	10:57
blue\|palm	lol	10:57
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blue\|palm	dwidmann do you have a solution for me?	10:57
stdin	blue\|palm: you can try changing the video out to x11 or xv	10:57
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blue\|palm	in mplayer? it didnt make a difference	10:57
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stdin	blue\|palm: eg mplayer -vo x11 myfile.ogg	10:58
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Kr4t05	stdin: The last thing I see in there would be in regard to FreeFontPath or somesuch...	10:58
dwidmann	blue\|palm, no, not really	10:58
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stdin	Kr4t05: you want to look for lines with "(EE)"	10:58
blue\|palm	dwidmann nvidia actually work?	10:58
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dwidmann	very well, and delivers the same performance that it does on windows too	10:59
vinboy	I have a custom kernel, how do I install nvidia-glx?	10:59
andreasw	hi	10:59
BTR	Hi, how can i connect to a wireless device that uses WPA-PSK? i only have open or shared as options	10:59
blue\|palm	dwidmann how does everybody else with an ati card survive then?	10:59
blue\|palm	!wigi	10:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about wigi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:59
stdin	vinboy: short answer, you don't	10:59
HailandKill	okay, a series of things has just happened. The battery ran out on my laptop. That, or it went into standby, either way I had to turn the machine on again. Then, as it was booting.. the cat walks across it. Now, the track bad doesn't work. I've set the xorg.conf back to the an original backup, but nought...	10:59
vinboy	stdin: really?	10:59
blue\|palm	BTR type !wifi and follow the URL	10:59
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BTR	!wifi	10:59
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	10:59
HailandKill	Could the cat seriously of broken my track pad?!	10:59
stdin	vinboy: not with a custom kernel, no	10:59
andreasw	vinboy: nvidia-glx is for the standard i386 kernel it won't work with a custom build kernel	11:00
vinboy	stdin: ok thx. that is abit strange	11:00
stdin	vinboy: you have to get the download from nvidia and compile it yourself	11:00
vinboy	alright	11:00
vinboy	thanks guys	11:00
andreasw	you can also install nvidia-kernel-source	11:00
vinboy	what is that?	11:00
andreasw	and than build your own deb package from that source	11:00
blue\|palm	does anybody else here use an ati card?	11:00
dwidmann	blue\|palm, beats me. I decided it worth my investment to replace my ati card with an nvidia card	11:01
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blue\|palm	woah	11:02
blue\|palm	thats extreme	11:02
blue\|palm	i cant, my ati driver is too expensive :(	11:02
dwidmann	blue\|palm, ati cards tend not to perform as well on linux, so much so that my old 6600gt would probably match the X1900 step for step in a linux environment	11:02
BTR	blue\|palm: There is nothing when i search for WPA-PSK in the wiki	11:02
blue\|palm	BTR It is there	11:02
blue\|palm	BTR :)	11:02
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blue\|palm	BTR its directly on that page the !wifi URL gives you	11:03
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blue\|palm	BTR just look for WPA, no WPA-PSK	11:03
BTR	Ohh, ok:)	11:03
stdin	WPA howto https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo <<<	11:03
blue\|palm	BTR :)	11:03
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blue\|palm	BTR Or you can just follow that: )	11:03
HailandKill	If I haven't touched the xorg.conf... why would my track pad suddenly stop working?	11:04
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BTR	thanks:)	11:04
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vinboy	cool, i got nvidia to work on my custom kernel	11:05
HailandKill	The only thing I was doing was tyring to get a broadcom wireless device to work.. surely that would break the track pad...?	11:05
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andreasw	HailandKill: well Kubuntu has something a strange working hardware detection it also changed my xorg.conf	11:07
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dwidmann	vinboy, the easiest way would have been to use envy :)	11:07
HailandKill	I've restored an old xorg.conf, but it hasn't seemed to have fixed it...	11:07
vinboy	it wasn't any harder	11:07
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snikker	i've got an "DCOP error" when i click on i bluetooth in the kontrol center. how fix this?	11:08
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adjhskajhdskljsh	stdin	11:08
adjhskajhdskljsh	?	11:08
adjhskajhdskljsh	its me kosmo	11:08
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stdin	adjhskajhdskljsh: yes?	11:09
adjhskajhdskljsh	i am in the live cd	11:09
adjhskajhdskljsh	and i cant	11:09
adjhskajhdskljsh	resize	11:09
adjhskajhdskljsh	the partiton	11:09
stdin	why now?	11:09
adjhskajhdskljsh	the resize button is already hidding	11:09
adaptr	!enter \| adjhskajhdskljsh	11:10
ubotu	adjhskajhdskljsh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	11:10
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HailandKill	Is there a way of automatically generating a new xorg.conf? I remeber getting X to make one automatically with Gentoo...	11:10
adjhskajhdskljsh	stdin	11:10
adjhskajhdskljsh	you have any idea	11:10
adjhskajhdskljsh	?	11:10
dwidmann	HailandKill: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	11:10
HailandKill	thanks	11:10
stdin	adjhskajhdskljsh: make sure all the partitions aren't mounted	11:10
stdin	adjhskajhdskljsh: including the swap one	11:11
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doudoo	oslo	11:11
dwidmann	Also, if qtparted is being a pain (like it frequently is) ... try parted in a konsole .. it's relatively easy to use	11:11
adjhskajhdskljsh	stdin	11:11
adjhskajhdskljsh	are not mounted	11:11
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doudoo	oslo	11:12
doudoo	oslo	11:12
doudoo	t la?	11:12
oslo	doudooui	11:12
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doudoo	il remarche ton kopete?	11:12
oslo	jarrive plus a chat sur kopete/msn je susi connect mais mes mess passe pas	11:12
oslo	non	11:12
claudio	I must create a daemon using kdevelop. This daemon must listen in a specified port. Where I can find a sample code and/or instruction to do that?	11:12
doudoo	erreur 911	11:12
oslo	remarche pas & toi ca marche ??	11:12
doudoo	rien que le numero me fai paniquer !	11:12
adjhskajhdskljsh	stdin	11:12
adjhskajhdskljsh	more idea	11:12
stdin	!fr \| doudoo	11:12
adjhskajhdskljsh	?	11:12
ubotu	doudoo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	11:12
oslo	sorry all	11:12
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oslo	doudoo : join #kubuntu-fr or #oslo	11:13
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stdin	adjhskajhdskljsh: you can try with gparted	11:13
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stdin	adjhskajhdskljsh: qtparted can be buggy	11:13
adjhskajhdskljsh	i install it on live cd	11:14
dwidmann	parted isn't very difficult to use ... if you don't feel like downloading gparted	11:14
adjhskajhdskljsh	gparted	11:14
adjhskajhdskljsh	delete after i go out	11:14
adjhskajhdskljsh	the live cd	11:14
adjhskajhdskljsh	ritght	11:14
adjhskajhdskljsh	?	11:14
adjhskajhdskljsh	right	11:14
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adjhskajhdskljsh	stdin	11:16
adjhskajhdskljsh	in gparted	11:17
adjhskajhdskljsh	i can go to resize	11:17
adjhskajhdskljsh	button	11:17
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adjhskajhdskljsh	but i cant add a size	11:17
adjhskajhdskljsh	to the partiton	11:17
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stdin	I haven't used g/qtparted in a while, I'm not an expert in it	11:18
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dwidmann	should be easy in parted ... start parted, type "resize #" (# being the partition #), give it the start point and end point and you'd be good to go	11:19
BTR	Damn, i cant figure out how to install WPA, i tried to follow guide, but i just keep running my head against the wall	11:19
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HailandKill	Hmm... I boot off the live CD, and the mouse still doesn't work... Shit. As if the fecking cat broke it.	11:22
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dwidmann	HailAndKill: last mouse I had mysteriously stopped working one day ... had to get another one	11:23
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HailandKill	Well, this is laptop track pad...	11:23
HailandKill	A little more difficult to get replaced.	11:24
HailandKill	:(	11:24
dwidmann	eeeeeeeeeeee	11:24
dwidmann	when you said mouse I thought you meant, you know, a mouse :\	11:24
HailandKill	yeah... understandable really.	11:24
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HailandKill	Guess I should start reading the warranty...	11:25
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Kr4t05	My X instability has yet to be solved.	11:28
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Kr4t05	Even on a clean xorg.conf, it still spits me out.	11:28
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HailandKill	Does it spit you out with anything helpful?	11:28
HailandKill	Or does it just complain?	11:29
Kr4t05	HailandKill: Nope, it just sends me back to the KDM without warning or consolance.	11:29
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Kr4t05	Methinks it may be a kernel issue.	11:29
Kr4t05	If so, I'll install the latest generic and try that.	11:30
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stdin	what driver ate you using ?	11:30
juano	Kr4t05: what seems to be the problem??	11:30
stdin	(graphics)	11:30
juano	hi dwidmann :)	11:30
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Kr4t05	stdin: nvidia beta. Now I'm kicking mysefl.	11:32
Kr4t05	myself*	11:32
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stdin	Kr4t05: does the nv driver give you issues ?	11:33
Kr4t05	stdin: Let me find out.	11:33
bLaZeD	if it does change it to vesa for a temp solution	11:33
Kr4t05	It's spits out many errors due to /dev/wacom	11:34
bLaZeD	the nv driver causes some probs with my card.	11:34
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stdin	ignore the wacom errors	11:34
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Kr4t05	stdin: Then, something about font paths	11:34
vinboy	how do I make konsole colorfull?	11:34
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stdin	Kr4t05: and ignore the font errors :P	11:35
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juano	vinboy: in konsole, go to settings -> configure konsole	11:35
vinboy	thanks	11:36
Kr4t05	stdin: After that, a large chunk headed with "Backtrace"	11:36
juano	vinboy: then to schema	11:36
stdin	vinboy: ^^ -> Schema :)	11:36
MHobbit	When trying to boot from an Efty Edge CD, the menu screen shows up fine, but when I try to actually boot Kubuntu, I get a kernel panic error. I've checked the ISO's md5sum, and that matched, and the CD seemed to have burned fine.	11:36
Kr4t05	stdin: Is there a console command to paste to pastebin?	11:36
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stdin	karmikaze: not without gpm, but the log will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log	11:37
Kr4t05	stdin: Drat... I was afraid of that...	11:37
karmikaze	>_>	11:37
stdin	heh, tab mismatch :)	11:38
stdin	Kr4t05: you can got to "http://pastebin.ca/upload.php" in links to upload the file	11:38
Kr4t05	stdin: mkay.	11:40
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[BTF] Chm0d	can anyone tell me if my fstab is correct? this is a fresh install of ubuntu and it wont let me view contents of my DVD http://www.pastebin.ca/319956	11:40
Kr4t05	stdin: vesa don't work, neither.	11:40
Kr4t05	Methinks this problem goes beyond Xserver problems.	11:41
stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: except for the / on "dev/hda" is missing, it looks ok	11:41
[BTF] Chm0d	i cut taht out during the copy hehe	11:41
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[BTF] Chm0d	well i can access my cdrom from the desktop but not the dvd	11:42
stdin	Kr4t05: maybe, I haven't had any issues with X, but I have an Intel GPU	11:42
[BTF] Chm0d	this is what i get Unable to enter file:///media/cdrom1. You do not have access rights to this location.	11:42
stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: what does "ls -ld /media/cdrom1" show ?(in konsole, and the 'l' is a 'L')	11:43
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[BTF] Chm0d	permission denied	11:44
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stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: did you do the exact command I showed, with the '-ld' ?	11:44
[BTF] Chm0d	sorry missed a letter it says this drwx------ 6 400 401 2048 2005-09-16 20:34 /media/cdrom1	11:44
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wolfwalker	I require net assistance	11:45
wolfwalker	When I try to run pppoeconf, it says it can't get the access concentrator to respond	11:45
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mhb	Hi everyone. It seems somehow the system fails to see my kwallet account now. Any way I can restore it?	11:46
Kr4t05	stdin: I can't figure this out...	11:47
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stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: unmount it "sudo umount /media/cdrom1" then mount like "mount /media/cdrom1", then run the "ls" command again	11:47
stdin	Kr4t05: I have no clue either	11:47
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[BTF] Chm0d	stdin: this is what i get drwx------ 6 400 401 2048 2005-09-16 20:34 /media/cdrom1	11:48
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stdin	that's a bit strange	11:49
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[BTF] Chm0d	got me	11:49
[BTF] Chm0d	:)	11:49
[BTF] Chm0d	its a fresh install	11:49
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stdin	why is it mounting as a user/group that don't even exist	11:50
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[BTF] Chm0d	dunno	11:50
[BTF] Chm0d	whats the user/group you are talking about?	11:51
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stdin	the UID=400 and the GID=401	11:51
[BTF] Chm0d	i dont understand that	11:51
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MaxDamage``	hey dudes	11:52
MaxDamage``	again	11:52
wolfwalker	Can anyone help me get online with my Linux computer?	11:52
stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: UID = User ID and GID = Group ID	11:52
[BTF] Chm0d	yea im looking at users and groups now	11:52
[BTF] Chm0d	they are in the 100's	11:52
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stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: but they don't have names there, so the user and group haven't been created on your system	11:53
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[BTF] Chm0d	got me	11:53
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stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: try replacing the line	11:54
[BTF] Chm0d	to?	11:54
stdin	"/dev/hdb /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0" with "/dev/hdb /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,uid=1000 0 0"	11:54
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[BTF] Chm0d	k	11:55
MaxDamage``	im having problems with my tv-out	11:55
MaxDamage``	i start it through system settings	11:55
MaxDamage``	i have the binary ATi Radeon drivers	11:56
MaxDamage``	using ATi Radeon 9200 SE	11:56
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[BTF] Chm0d	stdin: do i need to do anything like reboot or restart anything?	11:58
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stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: no just unmount it "sudo umount /media/cdrom1" and remount it "mount /media/cdrom1"	11:59
[BTF] Chm0d	k	11:59
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[BTF] Chm0d	that worked thank you very much for the help	12:00
stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: that's really more a workaround than a solution	12:00
[BTF] Chm0d	;O	12:00
[BTF] Chm0d	hey it works	12:00
stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: if there are any other users on the system, they won't be able to access it	12:01
[BTF] Chm0d	nope its just me	12:01
[BTF] Chm0d	so	12:01
stdin	[BTF] Chm0d: then it's fine :P	12:01
[BTF] Chm0d	:P	12:01
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[BTF] Chm0d	ty my friend	12:01
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stdin	no problem :)	12:01
visik7	msn isn't working. I hope forever	12:01
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Kano32	hi, just tested the 2nd feisty beta, one big mistake is in the kde-systemsettings package	12:03
Kano32	/etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/system-settings-merge.menu	12:04
Kano32	thats wrong position	12:04
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visik7	it's an alpha not a beta	12:04
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stdin	Kano32: 1st report as a bug, then for feisty support use #ubuntu+1	12:04
MoRpHeUz	hi ! I'm trying to install madwifi-ng in edgy but I'm having problems...it says that this is inside restricted-modules but it's not..someone has any idea about this ?	12:05
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Kr4t05	stdin: vesa works.	12:06
Kr4t05	I may try to reinstall my nvidia drivers to see if that fixes it.	12:06
stdin	MoRpHeUz: the madwifi modules are in the restricted modules package	12:06
stdin	Kr4t05: that may help, hope so anyway :)	12:06
MoRpHeUz	stdin: I already installed the restricted modules package but madwifi-ng is not installed, just madwifi....and then my wifi card does not work	12:07
MoRpHeUz	stdin: it's an atheros (macbook pro)	12:07
stdin	madwifi-ng = madwifi	12:08
stdin	afaik	12:08
stdin	!info madwifi-tools	12:09
ubotu	Package madwifi-tools does not exist in any distro I know	12:09
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MoRpHeUz	stdin: hhmm...but my wireless interface is not there...the atheros drivers are all up...looking for this stuff at google I found that I must load new_wlan_sta (that are all inside madwifi-ng but here I have just wlan_sta)	12:09
MoRpHeUz	hhmm	12:09
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sleepy833	sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree to install flash9 doesn't work, any idea why?	12:10
sleepy833	says can't find package..is the name wrong onthe line?	12:10
stdin	sleepy833: enable the multiverse and backports repositories	12:10
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malik_	a quick one..............whats wifi?	12:11
malik_	!WiFi	12:11
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	12:11
stdin	malik_: wifi = wireless :P	12:11
malik_	aah oki thanx	12:12
HailandKill	Ok, with ubuntu to automatically start something I go to System\|Preferences\|Sessions\|Startup Programs, where is this option in Kubuntu?	12:12
malik_	can any one tell how to make firefox play wma files which are not embedded in external application like kaffeine?	12:13
stdin	HailandKill: just make a link in ~/.kde/Autostart	12:13
dwidmann	hailandkill, you can just create a *.desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart	12:13
stdin	can just be a symlink too	12:13
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HailandKill	ok, ta.	12:14
juano	HailandKill: yes, try stdin and dwidmann suggestions	12:14

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