[12:15] <Kr4t05> Well, might be 7.12
[12:15] <forceflow_> so feisty is soon to come :D
[12:15] <Kr4t05> April
[12:17] <forceflow_> im sooooo ready
[12:17] <forceflow_> :D
[12:17] <MaxDamage``> oh, i'd also like to ask - when i log out sometimes the system hangs... just shows the mouse cursor with a black screen on 1280x1024
[12:18] <MaxDamage``> any clues? :/
[12:20] <Lynoure> Which source package should I report a Konqueror bug on in Launchpad? Or if I used reportbug, will it know I'm the same person as the Launchpad user if the email addy matches?
[12:20] <forceflow_> so yeah, ill be out there, covering the st. louis side:P ill be at the best buy off hanely if anyone knows where that is, anyone who wants to come is welcome
[12:21] <|Daisuke_Ido|> been reading up on the list goals for feisty...  there's some *really* nice stuff going
[12:21] <forceflow_> january 30th
[12:21] <Lynoure> MaxDamage``: That has happened on and off on Dapper at least on some laptop hardware...Maybe desktop too. Seems mostly fixed but causes could vary.
[12:21] <MaxDamage``> uhh
[12:21] <MaxDamage``> *reads again.. carefully*
[12:22] <MaxDamage``> well okay
[12:22] <MaxDamage``> i just have to live with it then :p
[12:22] <forceflow_> hey, does anyone know if they finally removed that damn bcm43xx wireless driver that they claimed was reverse engineered but didnt actually work?
[12:22] <genii> Feisty out of herd 1 yet?
[12:22] <forceflow_> that was the only pain in my ass when i installed linux:P
[12:22] <|Daisuke_Ido|> MaxDamage``: or upgrade to Edgy, i suppose
[12:22] <|Daisuke_Ido|> that's not always an option, though
[12:23] <MaxDamage``> im using edgy :p
[12:23] <dwidmann> eh? herd 2 has been out for days
[12:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> ah.
[12:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> well then, i suppose upgrading to edgy isn't an option, then, is it?
[12:24] <MaxDamage``> guess so :p
[12:25] <MaxDamage``> so you guys are lucky and have your own computers right?
[12:25] <MaxDamage``> lol
[12:25] <forceflow_> guess no one knows about that problem? it is a real pain for anyone switching on a dell laptop
[12:25] <|Daisuke_Ido|> computers, yes >_>
[12:25] <MaxDamage``> well i don't have my own room.. and im sharing my computer with my mother and my brother ...
[12:25] <MaxDamage``> <_<
[12:25] <MaxDamage``> :p
[12:26] <|Daisuke_Ido|> ouch.  i've been there, and yes, it definitely makes adopting linux a pain, especially when the other users are die-hard windows users.
[12:27] <MaxDamage``> die hard windows users?
[12:27] <MaxDamage``> someone sends a message to my mom in ICQ and she keeps shouting she's got a virus
[12:27] <MaxDamage``> .. :D
[12:27] <cyber-hazard> hahahahhaa
[12:27] <cyber-hazard> that's awesome
[12:28] <cyber-hazard> my dad is like that
[12:28] <|Daisuke_Ido|> oh man
[12:28] <forceflow_> lol
[12:28] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i don't know whether to laugh or cry
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> yeah, me too...
[12:28] <cyber-hazard> when we first got the internet in the house Napster was big, and one day (we had a memory leak) windows pops up an illegal operation message
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> im trying to teach her
[12:28] <BluesKaj> prolly not so much die-hard as not willing or able to even try linux :>)
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> not too much though...
[12:28] <cyber-hazard> he started freaking out that the cops were gonna come
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> cuz i can't control her then
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> :D
[12:28] <cyber-hazard> and damn me for downloading music :P
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> hahahhahaha
[12:28] <cyber-hazard> i was crying I was laughing so hard
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> ur dad rules!
[12:29] <forceflow_> i got yelled at when windows update downloaded internet explorer 7...lol apparently she thought i changed it
[12:29] <sleepy495> !sound
[12:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:29] <cyber-hazard> curious....
[12:29] <cyber-hazard> !windows
[12:29] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:29] <cyber-hazard> hahahahha
[12:29] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i feel lucky.  my mom knows her way around a computer, and my dad has been working with them for most of my life
[12:30] <cyber-hazard> or your nearest mental health institute! that's awesome!
[12:30] <|Daisuke_Ido|> of course, mom's usual computer activities include netflix.com, dvdshrink, and nero >_>
[12:30] <BluesKaj> I'm a grandfather , and Linux is much more interesting and verstaile than windows...altho i still have my windows partition , 'just in case" :)
[12:30] <cyber-hazard> |Daisuke_Ido|: your mom rocks! :P
[12:31] <MaxDamage``> yeah
[12:31] <|Daisuke_Ido|> that's what i thought
[12:31] <MaxDamage``> i wish my mom would get around a pc...
[12:31] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i made the mistake of asking when she planned to watch all of these movies
[12:31] <MaxDamage``> and not just keep shouting that there is no internet when she gets a 404...
[12:31] <MaxDamage``> rofl
[12:31] <BluesKaj> hehe
[12:31] <forceflow_> lol
[12:31] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i never did get an answer
[12:31] <sleepy495> where is alsamixer located?
[12:31] <cyber-hazard> !alsamixer
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> bah
[12:32] <cyber-hazard> hmmm, guess i'm not leet with the bot yet :(
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> noone is
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> :p
[12:32] <cyber-hazard> i got all excited cause i thought it was my turn to activate the bot :(
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> well except the botmaster
[12:32] <cyber-hazard> only to be rejected
[12:32] <|Daisuke_Ido|> !alsa-mixer
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsa-mixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <|Daisuke_Ido|> bleh
[12:32] <cyber-hazard> !also
[12:32] <cyber-hazard> errr
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about also - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> !alsa
[12:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:32] <BluesKaj> under multimedia id you have it installed, sleepy495
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> ^^
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> mekeke
[12:33] <sleepy495> ok,thanks
[12:33] <MaxDamage``> no prob :p
[12:33] <dwidmann> sleepy495, probably /usr/bin/alsamixer, you may have to install it first if you haven't already
[12:33] <cyber-hazard> !OSX
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OSX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <cyber-hazard> =\
[12:33] <MaxDamage``> !macintosh
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macintosh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <MaxDamage``> w00t
[12:33] <MaxDamage``> how the fuck do you spell that?!
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !apple
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <cyber-hazard> !mac
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <MaxDamage``> !water-melon
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about water-melon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <forceflow_> !wireless
[12:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:33] <forceflow_> :D
[12:34] <BluesKaj> !IMAC
[12:34] <MaxDamage``> :D
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IMAC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <cyber-hazard> whatis maxdamage\`\`\'s\ face
[12:34] <cyber-hazard> maxdamage``'s face: nothing appropriate.
[12:34] <dwidmann> if you click that link you get everytime you guess incorrectly, you can get the full list
[12:34] <cyber-hazard> i <3 my bash prompt :)
[12:34] <dwidmann> or you could experiment in a pm
[12:34] <BluesKaj> I have a friend who's running kubuntu partition on his Imac
[12:35] <MaxDamage``> maybe... ?
[12:35] <MaxDamage``> whoah
[12:35] <MaxDamage``> imac's rock :p
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Forgotten what he used to mount it
[12:37] <MaxDamage``> btw, it's very interesting how the iMac's parts fit into the small space of the monitor... :/
[12:38] <WiglyWorm> Could someone help me out here? I'm running into an error: "error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".. where can I find that file?
[12:38] <WiglyWorm> It doesn't appear to be on the program's CD, nor on my live CD.
[12:38] <MaxDamage``> well obviously you dont have the libSDL
[12:38] <MaxDamage``> uh...
[12:39] <MaxDamage``> i don't remember how to fix it :/
[12:39] <WiglyWorm> It would certainly appear that way. :)
[12:39] <dwidmann> !info libsdl1.2debian-all
[12:39] <MaxDamage``> im kinda sick right now
[12:39] <ubotu> libsdl1.2debian-all: Simple DirectMedia Layer (with all available options). In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 205 kB, installed size 504 kB
[12:39] <MaxDamage``> right...
[12:39] <MaxDamage``> now that you know that
[12:39] <cyber-hazard> hmmm, quick, someone quit so I know if this worked :P
[12:39] <MaxDamage``> go to adept and download it
[12:39] <cyber-hazard> damn
[12:40] <dwidmann> cyber-hazard: quit what?
[12:40] <WiglyWorm> Oh... I can get it off adept?
[12:40] <WiglyWorm> I figured that was too easy.
[12:40] <cyber-hazard> dwidmann: the channel
[12:40] <MaxDamage``> well everything is easy
[12:40] <MaxDamage``> if you know how to do it
[12:40] <dwidmann> is that question still in question, or am I too late to run away?
[12:40] <WiglyWorm> Mmm hmmm, and I'm a complete linux newbie ATM, so everything is hard. Very very hard. Or at least forgien.
[12:41] <MaxDamage``> so am I
[12:41] <MaxDamage``> but... im getting around :)
[12:41] <WiglyWorm> So I should just search for "libSDL-1.2.so.0" in adept?
[12:41] <MaxDamage``> libsdl only
[12:41] <dwidmann> install the libsdl1.2debian-all package
[12:41] <MaxDamage``> if should find some things
[12:42] <dwidmann> it should be all you need
[12:42] <WiglyWorm> Ah.. indeed it has.
[12:42] <BluesKaj> hmm, the desktop pages minimize to the tray when the cursor is moved to the edges of the screen ...some may like it , but I find it annoying. How do i fix this?
[12:43] <dwidmann> if you're using 64-bit you'd also need ia32-libs-sdl
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> BluesKaj: i think it's more comfortable that way
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> like you got a 4 times bigger screen
[12:44] <MaxDamage``> if you accidently hit the edge - hit the other one to get back
[12:44] <MaxDamage``> alltho it doesnt work with me o.0
[12:44] <MaxDamage``> !katapult
[12:44] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[12:44] <MaxDamage``> just for me
[12:44] <WiglyWorm> Dwidmann, were you talking to me?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> I to want to get rid of the effect , MaxDamage``
[12:45] <dwidmann> WiglyWorm: at which point?
[12:45] <dwidmann> hmm, oh, yes, I think I was
[12:45] <MaxDamage``> the 64 bits
[12:45] <WiglyWorm> "if you're using 64-bit you'd also need ia32-libs-sdl"
[12:46] <dwidmann> Indeed.
[12:46] <WiglyWorm> Alright... I've installed both of those packages, theoretically i'm good to go?
[12:46] <MaxDamage``> yes. :P
[12:46] <dwidmann> one way to find out
[12:47] <WiglyWorm> huh... same error.
[12:47] <MaxDamage``> come back after that so we can know if you're okay
[12:47] <MaxDamage``> oh
[12:47] <MaxDamage``> reboot?
[12:47] <WiglyWorm> yeah i was about to ask
[12:47] <WiglyWorm> I thought this was better than windows. ~_^
[12:47] <dwidmann> I doubt that will help anything, bu t you're welcome to try it
[12:47] <MaxDamage``> yeah, but still some things need the system to start over
[12:48] <WiglyWorm> Well, let's see what happens.
[12:48] <MaxDamage``> maybe restart x would do the same
[12:48] <|Daisuke_Ido|> it can be better than windows, but if you're expecing a windows clone that's easier, you're going to be disappointed.
[12:48] <dwidmann> Only if they involve kernel modules  ... AFAIK
[12:48] <dwidmann> or of course, the kernel itself
[12:48] <WiglyWorm> No, I'm certainly not expecting that.
[12:48] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i find it far superior to windows, purely because i can make it do what i need, when i need it
[12:48] <rEvolution27> hey guys, I have an amarok problem... When I try to play a file it doesn't do anything, it just rushes through the entire playlist and says playlist done
[12:48] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: which type of file?
[12:48] <MaxDamage``> rEvolution27: lol i just imagined that
[12:49] <rEvolution27> mp3
[12:49] <|Daisuke_Ido|> !amarok-engines
[12:49] <ubotu> amarok-engines: output engines for the amaroK audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[12:49] <MaxDamage``> rEvolution27: download the amarok packages for the mp3 support
[12:49] <dwidmann> !mp3 | rEvolution27
[12:49] <ubotu> rEvolution27: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:49] <crazy_bus> How come the flashgot command Alt+click doesn't work in firefox in kubuntu?
[12:49] <rEvolution27> yeh i tryied to install the mp3 stuff but it didn't do anything
[12:50] <dwidmann> have you restarted amarok since rEvolution27
[12:50] <rEvolution27> yeh
[12:50] <forceflow_> rEvolution27: tried automatix2 and all that jazz?
[12:50] <dwidmann> That's odd then
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> ew
[12:50] <dwidmann> eww indeed.
[12:50] <MaxDamage``> dwidmann: it asked me 3 times to install the packs
[12:50] <forceflow_> hey, it's just so easy:P
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> automatix = evil
[12:50] <forceflow_> lol
[12:50] <forceflow_> hey, dont attack me
[12:50] <rEvolution27> i tried easy ubuntu
[12:50] <MaxDamage``> yeah automatix = evil
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not attacking you
[12:50] <MaxDamage``> i cant install it
[12:50] <forceflow_> ;)
[12:50] <MaxDamage``> requires 9 more packages
[12:51] <forceflow_> i just know it makes it easier for a lot of people
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> both are evil.  anything they install can be installed pretty easily anyway
[12:51] <forceflow_> i installed all mine from command line:P
[12:51] <dwidmann> so, rEvolution27, you've installed the "libxine-extracodecs" package?
[12:51] <rEvolution27> umm i think something may be wrong with my adept too... all my repos say dapper
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i just don't like the idea of a script that may do things i don't specifically want
[12:51] <rEvolution27> adept can't find the extracodecs package
[12:51] <forceflow_> yea, i understand that perfectly
[12:52] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: well then I'm pretty sure it probably isn't installed then
[12:52] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: are you running dapper or edgy?
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> have you enabled universe in the repositories?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> yeah, learning to install different pkges from the cmnd line is much safer
[12:52] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: he'
[12:52] <dwidmann> d need multiverse, actually
[12:52] <rEvolution27> well it's supposed to be edgy but al my repos say dapper
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:52] <bazyl> hallo
[12:53] <rEvolution27> what's the multiverse repo?
[12:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i move that my last remark be edited, -uni +multi
[12:53] <rEvolution27> how do i add it? I couldn't find it in adept
[12:53] <forceflow_> some people just dont feel comfortable at command line is the only problem - hence, you get automatix2
[12:53] <Daisuke_Ido> !source-o-matic
[12:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:53] <Vigo> !multiverse
[12:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:53] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: try typing this in a terminal: sudo sed s/dapper/edgy/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <rEvolution27> that will update my apt sources?
[12:55] <Vigo> I never ran Kubuntu, so I cannot answer that
[12:55] <dwidmann> that will change all instances of dapper to edgy rEvolution27, what I said will anyway
[12:55] <dwidmann> hmm, might not save the changes, hmm
[12:55] <rEvolution27> oh :) no so good at command line yet ;)
[12:55] <Vigo> InUbuntu I use the Synaptic Package Manager, I guess it is the same
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> i use synaptic in kubuntu as well.
[12:55] <dwidmann> I've been experimenting with sed lately, looks like that won't save it, hmm
[12:55] <MaxDamage``> nope
[12:55] <MaxDamage``> default is adept
[12:55] <MaxDamage``> i think.. :/
[12:55] <MaxDamage``> :p
[12:56] <Daisuke_Ido> purely because i like its interface better.
[12:56] <rEvolution27> oh i'm confused
[12:56] <WiglyWorm> Reboots also do nothing. T_T
[12:56] <Vigo> In the package mager doohiky you can set it to search for Multiverse, Univeres, and whatever
[12:57] <rEvolution27> dwidmann the code worked
[12:57] <Vigo> Its like a GUI interface, but as we all know, In the beginning was the command line
[12:57] <dwidmann> did it save the changes too, hmmmmm
[12:58] <rEvolution27> i can now install libxine-extracodecs
[12:58] <rEvolution27> yeh it saved the changes
[12:58] <dwidmann> neato, it doesn't seem to for me :\
[12:58] <rEvolution27> where can i learn useful commands like that?
[12:58] <WiglyWorm> So any ideas on where to go with this error? "
[12:58] <WiglyWorm> /libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:59] <Vigo> Kubuntu has Feisty ready for download?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, I'll ask again since you might know... the desktop pages minimize to the tray when the cursor is moved to the edges of the screen ...some may like it , but I find it annoying. How do i fix this?
[12:59] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: the man pages work well, the sed command is the stream editor ... pain in the butt to learn how to use it, but it's powerful
[12:59] <rEvolution27> K guys amarok now has mp3 support ;)
[01:00] <dwidmann> Blueskaj, hmm, I've never had it do that o.O how did you turn that on, sounds potentially useful (and annoying)
[01:00] <Vigo> YAY!
[01:00] <MaxDamage``> great
[01:00] <MaxDamage``> :p
[01:00] <rEvolution27> strange cuz the last time I installed kubuntu and i tryied to play an mp3 amarok asked me if I want it to automatically download the mp3 codec
[01:01] <BluesKaj> yeah , it could be useful dwidmann , but the prob is i don't know what i did to cause the effect :)
[01:01] <Minataku> Aw.... genii isn't here
[01:02] <rEvolution27> how do i find out what version of kubuntu I have?
[01:02] <dwidmann> lsb-release -a will tell
[01:02] <dwidmann> **lsb_release
[01:03] <jonah> i'm trying to get darkice working but i don't know what my alsa device is (hw:0,0?) how do i figure it out?
[01:05] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, alt+F3 /configure windows/ animate windows and restore ;; turn it off ...
[01:05] <rEvolution27> dwidmann no lsb modules are available
[01:05] <BluesKaj> nope that's wrong too
[01:05] <dwidmann> BluesKaj, I think I found something  ... wait, it looks like you've found something too
[01:05] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: lsb_release -a
[01:06] <BluesKaj> ok what did you find , dwidmann ?
[01:06] <dwidmann> BluesKaj, something that could provide similar effect is the Active desktop borders in the desktop -> window behavior -> advanced
[01:06] <rEvolution27> hmm it says i have 6.06 dapper but i was pretty sure i intalled edgy... how do i upgrade?
[01:07] <BluesKaj> yes, dwidmann , found it as well , thx for the help :)
 omg, im blind...
[01:10] <dwidmann> maxdamage, need contacts/glasses?
[01:11] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: to upgrade, change all instances of dapper to edgy in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[01:12] <K-Ryan> dwidmann, think it's worth it?
[01:12] <K-Ryan> or do you think Dapper is more stable right now?
[01:12] <dwidmann> I think both are pretty stable, so might as well go with the one that's more up-to-date :)
[01:13] <sampan> might be less chance of things going awry (assuming one JUST installed dapper) to do a clean install of edgy
[01:13] <K-Ryan> well ive got a bunch, okay a couple dapper programs
[01:13] <K-Ryan> would they still work on edgy?
[01:14] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, if anything, there are more programs in the edgy repos than dappers, if I remember right, it's close at any rate
[01:14] <K-Ryan> no, would dapper programs work in edgy?
[01:14] <sampan> k-ryan  an upgrade from dapper will pull in the packages automatically (if they're available) ... if you did a clean install, you'd have to re-get them via apt/adept
[01:15] <K-Ryan> sampan for the record im not doing a clean install =P
[01:15] <K-Ryan> anyway, dapper programs dont work with edgy?
[01:15] <K-Ryan> unless it has an edgy update?
[01:16] <sampan> you can't transfer the packages ... but an upgrade would include the edgy packages (assuming they've been compiled for edgy, which they most likely would be) and so the "programs" would work just fine
[01:17] <K-Ryan> what do you mean i cant transfer the packages? if i install edgy they're wiped?
[01:18] <sampan> if you did a CLEAN install (which you've said you aren't), you'd have to install them again (via apt/adept), but an UPGRADE from dapper to edgy will automatically download and install the upgraded packages in the upgrade process.
[01:18] <K-Ryan> How long would edgy take?
[01:19] <mineur> for a clean install?
[01:19] <K-Ryan> upgrade
[01:19] <dwidmann> depends on your download speed, K-Ryan
[01:19] <dwidmann> Figure on a 500+mb download
[01:20] <K-Ryan> pffff
[01:20] <rEvolution27> lol
[01:20] <K-Ryan> take me an hour maybe
[01:20] <rEvolution27> what are the major differences?
[01:20] <rEvolution27> between dappper and edgy
[01:20] <addyk> Can't belive I managed to enter with xchat :) Hello #kubuntu
[01:20] <MaxDamage``> uh, guys, how can i stream media on the net?
[01:20] <MaxDamage``> like an internet radio
[01:20] <K-Ryan> I think there are programs for it
[01:21] <MaxDamage``> i used to play a song for my friends when i had winamp and shoutcast
[01:21] <K-Ryan> Or at least there are things on the net for it
[01:21] <addyk> stdin: Hello! :) What's your sleeping hours man :) You're sti
[01:21] <dwidmann> biggest difference is that things are more up to date.
[01:21] <addyk> almost always online :)
[01:21] <mineur> isn't there a shoutcast plugin for xmms??
[01:22] <dwidmann> addyk, you seem confused, stdin most obviously doesn't sleep o.o
[01:22] <K-Ryan> !sources
[01:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:22] <K-Ryan> what is the path to sources.list i always foget
[01:22] <addyk> dwidmann: Wow... Is there people that CAN do that? :)
[01:22] <K-Ryan> *forget
[01:22] <addyk> *are
[01:22] <sampan> k-ryan  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <K-Ryan> sampan thx
[01:23] <sampan> np
[01:23] <mineur> !oddcast
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oddcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <dwidmann> Which leads me to believe that stdin in might be a mechnical being, fueled by strong coffee o.O
[01:23] <addyk> :))
[01:23] <mineur> MaxDamage``: look on www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv3_jack/
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> me prays for the day he can play You Don't Know Jack in linux
[01:23] <MaxDamage``> thanks :)
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, pretend i put a / before that, k?
[01:24] <sampan> hehe
[01:25] <addyk> dwidmann: it was you that said the new name for TuxRacer, no?
[01:25] <addyk> Em... :|
[01:25] <addyk> What was it again?
[01:25] <dwidmann> erm, I don't think it was me
[01:25] <addyk> Hmm, darn... :|
[01:25] <dwidmann> Unless I've been typing in my sleep again
[01:26] <addyk> You can ... DO... that??? (o.O)
[01:26] <BluesKaj> lol
[01:26] <dwidmann> One can only suspect o.O
[01:26] <addyk> Oh my... :| I wonder if I did that too O_O
[01:27] <addyk> Yet, more... WHAT did I write if I did... @.@
[01:27] <BluesKaj> \O_O /
[01:27] <K-Ryan> uhh, I changed everything in my repos to edgy and updated
[01:27] <K-Ryan> clicked the "fetch updates" im supposed to do something else right/
[01:28] <addyk> Anyway... it's late at night for me... 02:28. Good night #kubuntu :)
[01:28] <K-Ryan> or did i just install edgy? o.O
[01:28] <mineur> addyk: PlanetPenguin Racer :)
[01:28] <K-Ryan> g'night addyk
[01:28] <addyk> Thanx !!!! :D
[01:28] <K-Ryan> =P
[01:29] <dwidmann> addyk, there's just no telling!
[01:29] <addyk> :D
[01:29] <dwidmann> 'night addyk
[01:29] <mineur> np :)
[01:29] <K-Ryan> dwidmann i dont think i did this rigth
[01:29] <K-Ryan> *right
[01:29] <mineur> but their site seems down :)
[01:29] <K-Ryan> i changed everything in my repos from dapper to edgy
[01:29] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, what did you do?
[01:29] <K-Ryan> fetched updates on those
[01:29] <K-Ryan> now im upgrading my programs for edgy
[01:29] <K-Ryan> i think
[01:30] <K-Ryan> i clicked full upgrade and applied
[01:30] <mineur> !upgrade
[01:30] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:30] <jorze> ola
[01:30] <dwidmann> You may want to click on "full upgrade" Ryan
[01:30] <K-Ryan> I did
[01:30] <dwidmann> and it did what/
[01:30] <genii> !otrs
[01:30] <ubotu> otrs: Open Ticket Request System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3.3p01-2 (edgy), package size 913 kB, installed size 6032 kB
[01:30] <K-Ryan> It went through the edgy repos and now its installing
[01:30] <K-Ryan> but it says down at the bottom
[01:30] <K-Ryan> "download 29M, installtion: 10M"
[01:31] <K-Ryan> this cant be edgy
[01:31] <K-Ryan> can it?
[01:31] <dwidmann> interesting, sounds kinda small
[01:31] <K-Ryan> mind you im just upgrading
[01:31] <dwidmann> what does "lsb_release -sc" say?
[01:31] <mineur> !upgrade > K-Ryan
[01:31] <genii> Anyone know if otrs or rt for 6.06 server? Can't seem to find it on apt-cache search there
[01:31] <K-Ryan> mineur, I've got it, dwidmann is helping me anyway
[01:31] <K-Ryan> type in the terminal dwidmann?
[01:31] <dwidmann> yup
[01:32] <K-Ryan> dapper
[01:32] <K-Ryan> i havent logged out and in or rebooted
[01:32] <dwidmann> Well, that's right, hmm, I wonder why it's only downloading 229mb ...
[01:32] <dwidmann> **29m
[01:32] <rEvolution27> after I read many distaster stories of upgrading to edgy and some articles which say that dapper is more stable, i might stick with it
[01:32] <dope> so how does everyone feel about municipal wifi?
[01:33] <K-Ryan> !adeptfix
[01:33] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:33] <BluesKaj> edgy works fine for me
[01:33] <mineur> edgy works fine,stable,nice and sweet here :)
[01:33] <dwidmann> I did a clean install with edgy after hearing disaster stories  ... though I could have fixed it had I done the upgrade. I just didn't feel like waiting days for it to download.
[01:33] <mineur> I did a fresh install tho :)
[01:33] <sampan> revolution27  i read some of those upgrade stories too, which is why i just did a clean install.  worked flawlessly and got rid of a lot of unused packages
[01:34] <rEvolution27> if i do a clean install how do i save all the settings and programs i have? Or do i have to just re-do everything?
[01:34] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, did adept crash on you?
[01:35] <K-Ryan> No, just wrote it down for later =P
[01:35] <sampan> revolution27  you'll have to redo everything, but if you JUST installed dapper a day or two ago, that shouldn't be too hard
[01:35] <rEvolution27> I my install cd was edgy in the fist place and ended up with dapper lol
[01:35] <malik_> can any one help me with my stupid firefox?.........it cant remember how to open wma files from a http site?
[01:36] <dwidmann> Well, it's actually easy to save your list of packages and add them back after a clean install, I have a cronjob set to back up my list once a week
[01:37] <rEvolution27> I might just wait for feisty on the other hand
[01:37] <dwidmann> That'll be a long wait
[01:37] <dwidmann> Granted, I'm waiting for it too :D
[01:37] <rEvolution27> What I really want is kde 4
[01:38] <K-Ryan> Whacha mean by the waiting?
[01:38] <K-Ryan> Feisty is going to be on CD?
[01:38] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: that'll be an even longer wait
[01:38] <rEvolution27> crap
[01:38] <malik_> can any one help me with my stupid firefox?.........it cant remember how to open wma files from a http site?.........any help wud be great i wanna learn how to play a wma file in firefox from a http site i can download n play it by i wanna stream and play it with kaffiene
[01:39] <rEvolution27> I saw a guide on that but I just can't remember where :(
[01:40] <endo602> how do i format an ntfs
[01:40] <K-Ryan> dwidmann, the upgrade wiki reccomends doing this in a console session, is it that important?
[01:41] <dwidmann> K-Ryan: Ummm, I doubt it's all that important, I usually do it with my gui up ...
[01:41] <dwidmann> does it say why?
[01:41] <K-Ryan> "I recommend doing this from a console session."
[01:41] <endo602> How do i format an ntfs to ext3?
[01:42] <mineur> delete the partition and make a new one with qtparted
[01:42] <dwidmann> k-ryan, I usually bing up konsole in my gui session and do it from there ...
[01:42] <rEvolution27> endo602 i'm no expert but i use qtparted
[01:42] <K-Ryan> dwidmann thanks, i'll try it out from there
[01:43] <dwidmann> endo602, you won't be able to convert, you'll need to back it up, delete the ntfs partition,a nd then create the new partition using parted, qtparted, or something else if you don't like those.
[01:43] <endo602> ok
[01:44] <endo602> do i have to mount it then
[01:44] <dwidmann> k-ryan, I've not trusted gui package managers since I saw how crashy they could be with ubuntu 4.10 (warty). It segfaulted every few minutes, I was so annoyed.
[01:44] <rEvolution27> This sounds impossible but can you move the physical location of a partition on a disk?
[01:44] <K-Ryan> I'm not using a package manager, I am using the Konsole
[01:44] <K-Ryan> Just didn't know if I could leave my background running
[01:45] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, dpkg/apt is a package manger, you're just not using a graphical frontend :)
[01:46] <mineur> rEvolution27: yes, but it's not without a risk :)
[01:46] <K-Ryan> dwidmann the installs keep having unmet dependencies
[01:46] <K-Ryan> did i do something wrong?
[01:46] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, hopefully not
[01:46] <K-Ryan> wait a second, i skipped apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[01:46] <K-Ryan> silly me =)
[01:46] <malik_> can any one help with firefox and wma media issue?
[01:46] <dwidmann> what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like?
[01:46] <dwidmann> Oh
[01:46] <dwidmann> that would help
[01:47] <K-Ryan> i still cant get something
[01:47] <dwidmann> malik_ I googled and I think I may have found something for ya
[01:47] <K-Ryan> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:47] <K-Ryan>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: x-window-system-core
[01:47] <dwidmann> weird
[01:48] <dwidmann> K-Ryan: try sudo apt-get upgrade instead, perhaps
[01:48] <dwidmann> malik_: http://willcode4beer.blogspot.com/2006/06/linux-firefox-and-kaffeine.html
[01:48] <malik_> that wud be great coz i cudnt find any thing
[01:49] <wolfwalker> So, there really is a dsl channel
[01:49] <wolfwalker> Imagine that
[01:49] <rEvolution27> lol
[01:49] <rEvolution27> what's wrong with dsl?
[01:49] <wolfwalker> Okay, I've just about given up on installing ANY program remotely
[01:50] <wolfwalker> Remotely = downloading the programs from my Windows computer and porting them up to my Linux computer with my flash drive
[01:50] <Soccrmastr> "The animals will hear!" bellowed the ear licking penguin as the awesomely endowed midget sucked her oozing charlies and plugged his purple middle leg into her festering cunt.
[01:50] <Soccrmastr> oops... wrong window
[01:50] <mineur> K-Ryan: did you do sudo update-manager -c -d ? that's the way to upgrade
[01:50] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <wolfwalker> The dependencies had dependencies, which had dependencies, which had dependencies, which had dependencies, which had dependencies...........
[01:50] <mineur> wolfwalker: sounds like RPM :p
[01:51] <K-Ryan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1894/
[01:51] <wolfwalker> No, just Audacity, the best music editor I've ever found
[01:51] <dwidmann> o.O wrong window indeed Soccrmastr
[01:51] <dwidmann> wolfwalker, that's how things go
[01:51] <K-Ryan> i just read what Soccrmastr posted and laughed so hard
[01:51] <wolfwalker> I guess I'll just have to drag the computer and all associated stuff down here and get Adept to do it for me
[01:52] <mineur> that's indeed the easiest way
[01:52] <K-Ryan> look at my paste, did i do something wrong?
[01:52] <wolfwalker> Easy is a highly relative concept
[01:53] <rEvolution27> is there an update-manager for kubuntu?
[01:53] <wolfwalker> rEvolution27: Yes
[01:53] <wolfwalker> Adept
[01:53] <wolfwalker> I think..........
[01:53] <mineur> yes there is
[01:54] <mineur> to upgrade to edgy from dapper: sudo update-manager -c -d
[01:54] <Bizzeh> hey
[01:54] <Bizzeh> i just installed kubuntu
[01:54] <rEvolution27> ok thanks that's what i wanted
[01:54] <K-Ryan> mineur, what's the catch?
[01:54] <mineur> just to get the latest version of packages use adept or synaptic
[01:54] <soulrider> Bizzeh: great!
[01:54] <Bizzeh> i managed to get my wireless installed
[01:54] <Bizzeh> but
[01:54] <K-Ryan> the wiki gives me a big list of things to do
[01:54] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core
[01:54] <Bizzeh> i cant get my wireless to work right
[01:55] <Bizzeh> i cant set my WPA-PSK key
[01:55] <Bizzeh> it only lets me set WEP
[01:55] <soulrider> Bizzeh: i dont think i can help you since i dont have a wireless network, byt probably someone here does
[01:55] <Soccrmastr> geez just use WEP then lol
[01:55] <soulrider> !wpa
[01:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:55] <soulrider> try that link
[01:55] <K-Ryan> dwidmann same problem but this time x-window-system-core is missing xorg
[01:55] <mineur> as far as I know, there is no catch... but I never did it myself
[01:56] <dwidmann> then add xorg to the list ... eventually you'll run into whatever the problem was, or it will go away silently
[01:56] <K-Ryan> i added that
[01:56] <K-Ryan> and now i got a nice chunk of dependencies
[01:56] <flipjarg> hi all, anyone know why my Firefox is crashing when i visit sites that use flash? i just installed the flash player through FireFox. i don't have anything else installed. Everything else is default besides that.
[01:56] <dwidmann> add them to the list too ...
[01:56] <K-Ryan> but its a lot!
[01:56] <dwidmann> Hmmm
[01:56] <K-Ryan> 7!
[01:56] <rEvolution27> mineur: sudo: update-manager: command not found
[01:56] <flipjarg> ... i'm running 6.10 Edgy Eft.
[01:57] <K-Ryan> and some say "but it is not going to be installed"
[01:57] <K-Ryan> or "But it is not installable"
[01:57] <Bizzeh> i try what it says
[01:57] <K-Ryan> is Kubuntu mocking me?
[01:57] <forceflow_> yes, of course
[01:58] <dwidmann> K-Ryan: well, dependency resolution is a pain in the butt, but just keep adding them to the list of packages to install your command ... you'll find the real problem _eventually_
[01:58] <K-Ryan> >.<
[01:58] <wolfwalker> WHAT?!
[01:58] <dwidmann> It's also a possibility that there is a problem with the mirror, which mirror are you using?
[01:58] <K-Ryan> edgy
[01:58] <wolfwalker> dwidmann, I thought Adept got all the dependencies for you
[01:58] <wolfwalker> That's what I was told anyway
[01:59] <dwidmann> wolfwalker, the upgrade process in ubuntu doesn't seem to be even 1/10th as smooth as in debian ...
[01:59] <malik_> can any one tell me how to make firefox remember settings for playing wma files off the net?
[01:59] <rEvolution27> man I had dependency issues with nvidia drivers and berly once. I had to do a clean install
[02:00] <endo602> only formating 5 g
[02:00] <K-Ryan> I added all the dependency issues and now i get this
[02:00] <mineur> K-Ryan: have you seend this too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades ?
[02:00] <mineur> here they say it's not recommended to upgrade with apt-get
[02:01] <K-Ryan> "Package libgl1-mesa-glx is not availible, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only availible from another source. E: Package libgl1-mesa-glx has no installation candidate
[02:01] <K-Ryan> "
[02:01] <dwidmann> Here's a kicker for yah mineur
[02:01] <dwidmann> !info update-manager
[02:01] <ubotu> update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45 (edgy), package size 775 kB, installed size 3652 kB
[02:01] <rEvolution27> mineur i can't use update-manger  it says command not found
[02:02] <K-Ryan> Well mineur your other nice little ! says "use apt-get"
[02:02] <mineur> and because we use kde we're not allowed to use gnome apps? :)
[02:02] <K-Ryan> So you're not being helpful
[02:02] <dwidmann> It kind of helps if they're there/installed/etc
[02:02] <mineur> :)
[02:02] <dwidmann> and to download all of its dependencies would likely be time consuming
[02:03] <rEvolution27> so i can just use adept to get update-manager
[02:04] <K-Ryan> mineur that last link isnt even for kubuntu
[02:04] <mineur> oh come on.... how many times... kubuntu is not a different distro then ubuntu!!!
[02:05] <wolfwalker> lol
[02:05] <K-Ryan> No but the install is different
[02:05] <mineur> it's the SAME, yes the same, even using the same repository...
[02:05] <dwidmann> No, but it does come with different packages installed, so instructions may vary.
[02:05] <K-Ryan> And I want Kubuntu, not Ubuntu
[02:05] <jamrs> oh god you may get some enjoyment out of this
[02:05] <jamrs> http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=707375
[02:06] <dwidmann> jamrs: I better :D
[02:06] <endo602> what is the command to copy to directory
[02:06] <jamrs> scroll down to matt's 3rd response
[02:06] <dwidmann> endo602: cp
[02:06] <jamrs> when he tries to use my instructions
[02:06] <endo602> to copy directory?
[02:06] <endo602> or files
[02:06] <dwidmann> cp -R
[02:06] <dwidmann> then
[02:06] <endo602> nice
[02:07] <dwidmann> jamr: is the object of entertainment matt00926's avatar?
[02:07] <Soccrmastr> jamrs: HAHAH
[02:07] <mineur> the second link... it even gives you the instructions for kubuntu... when using the not recommended way... I'm still not convinced why you're trying to do it with apt-get... but it's your system, your choice :)
[02:07] <K-Ryan> !libgl1-mesa-glx
[02:07] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa-glx: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 524 kB
[02:08] <K-Ryan> Could that be giving me trouble because of my fglfx thing?
[02:08] <rEvolution27> hey k-ryan: try this, get update-manage from adept and then in terminal type sudo update-manager -c -d
[02:08] <rEvolution27> update-manager*
[02:09] <endo602> what id the command to copy all files and files in subdir
[02:10] <rEvolution27> k i'm gonna update now c ya later.
[02:10] <dwidmann> endo602, you could do cp -R source_directory/* destination_directory
[02:10] <endo602> damn
[02:11] <endo602> how do i purge a command in console
[02:11] <dwidmann> purge a command?
[02:11] <mineur> purge?
[02:11] <endo602> stop a cpying
[02:11] <mineur> ctrl + c :)
[02:11] <dwidmann> ctrl +c
[02:12] <K-Ryan> dwidmann i tried that sudo update-manager -c -d
[02:12] <dwidmann> I've never tried it, what'd it do?
[02:13] <K-Ryan> absolutely nothing except give me some more read outs
[02:13] <dwidmann> read outs?
[02:13] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[02:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <K-Ryan> stuff in the terminal =P
[02:13] <K-Ryan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1898/
[02:14] <K-Ryan> i mean, im looking at it, but nothing jumps out at me
[02:14] <K-Ryan> apt API not stable yet?
[02:14] <K-Ryan> oops i included it twice...
[02:14] <dwidmann> apt api not stable yet? I remember hearing that about the python-apt bindings
[02:14] <rEvolution27> i got the last error too
[02:15] <K-Ryan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1899/
[02:15] <dwidmann> I've no idea what the trouble is, something seems to be missing is all I can tell, either that or you've found a bug
[02:16] <K-Ryan> how about the very last line
[02:16] <K-Ryan> "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk
[02:16] <K-Ryan> "
[02:16] <dwidmann> that's the line I'm talking about
[02:16] <K-Ryan> Oh
[02:16] <rEvolution27> that's the error i go
[02:16] <dwidmann> the X related lines don't matter
[02:16] <rEvolution27> i got
[02:17] <K-Ryan> revolution27 you havent fixed it either did you?
[02:17] <K-Ryan> *didn't
[02:17] <rEvolution27>   sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:17] <rEvolution27>   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:17] <rEvolution27> that'll do it all
[02:17] <bky_> can anyone give me advice on my error I stated in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2014485#post2014485 ? I posted it a few days ago and no reply...
[02:18] <tobi> Another funny newbie question: I want to copy a folder into another, but I am not the owner of both. how can I handle this prob?
[02:19] <rEvolution27> go root?
[02:19] <bky_> sudo cp [old file]  [new file] 
[02:19] <K-Ryan> okay something is happening
[02:19] <mineur> sudo cp -R source destination
[02:19] <K-Ryan> big downloads
[02:19] <bky_> sudo chown [your name]  [newfile] 
[02:19] <rEvolution27> you did what i told you?
[02:20] <K-Ryan> yup
[02:20] <tobi> i try
[02:20] <dwidmann> sed is awesome :)
[02:20] <rEvolution27> yeh that's the way to go
[02:20] <K-Ryan> I'm only at 12% and I have a very fast internet
[02:20] <malik_> Jucato: u there mate?.....sorry to trouble u
[02:20] <K-Ryan> connection
[02:20] <K-Ryan> So I assume this is what I needed to do
[02:20] <K-Ryan> So once it's done I should reboot right?
[02:20] <rEvolution27> ofcourse i found this in the link mineur posted that you were critisizing
[02:21] <rEvolution27> :)
[02:21] <dwidmann> that's not far off what I said to do
[02:21] <K-Ryan> I thought that would leave with me ubuntu
[02:21] <dwidmann> I only recently learned how to use sed properly ...
[02:21] <K-Ryan> and i hope it doesnt
[02:21] <rEvolution27> no it won't
[02:21] <dwidmann> from the vim help files no less
[02:21] <K-Ryan> dwidmann if it makes you feel better, i dont know what it does either =)
[02:21] <dwidmann> vim is awesome too
[02:21] <K-Ryan> woohoo, 24% already
[02:22] <rEvolution27> I think the only difference between kubunut and ubuntu is the k desktop environment
[02:22] <dwidmann> K-Ryan: that said command was nothing but a little bit of search and replace action
[02:22] <dwidmann> vim is a text editor
[02:22] <K-Ryan> rEvolution27 I like the K desktop environment
[02:22] <K-Ryan> a lot
[02:22] <dwidmann> no, wait, I take that back, vim is THE text editor :D
[02:23] <rEvolution27> yes and you won't loose kde
[02:23] <K-Ryan> Okey
[02:23] <rEvolution27> ok guys i'lll leave this update over night
[02:23] <rEvolution27> c ya
[02:23] <K-Ryan> So are there any noticable differences in edgy?
[02:23] <K-Ryan> wait revolution27
[02:23] <K-Ryan> How far are you?
[02:23] <K-Ryan> in the update
[02:23] <rEvolution27> 13%
[02:23] <dwidmann> apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop, apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop ... that'll show you the differences, in full
[02:23] <K-Ryan> I'm already 34% =)
[02:24] <rEvolution27> k
[02:24] <K-Ryan> =P
[02:24] <dwidmann> One thing you'll notice is that konsole and kate start a lot faster :)
[02:24] <sampan> edgy boots faster for me too
[02:24] <K-Ryan> How much faster can they start?
[02:24] <K-Ryan> faster booting is nice
[02:24] <K-Ryan> Although Dapper boots nicely for me too
[02:24] <sampan> although, i never booted that often (last time before edgy install was 145 days prior)
[02:24] <K-Ryan> perhaps a little slower than Xp
[02:24] <K-Ryan> XP
[02:25] <dwidmann> konsole and kate start quite fast ... I think those optimizations found their way into the 3.5.5 release of kde
[02:25] <K-Ryan> But I don't care, this is better
[02:25] <K-Ryan> Almost half way there, 41%
[02:25] <K-Ryan> 42%
[02:25] <dwidmann> even if xp boots faster, just think back on how long it is until it's actually at a usable state ... all of those anti-malware programs having to load up ;)
[02:25] <K-Ryan> Yeah that's what I was thinking
[02:26] <K-Ryan> It's not really looking back, I'm an avid gamer
[02:26] <K-Ryan> Although since I got Kubuntu working I haven't booted in XP once...
[02:26] <dwidmann> so how large of a download do you have on your hands K-Ryan?
[02:26] <K-Ryan> 15 minutes
[02:26] <K-Ryan> downloading half a meg per second
[02:27] <K-Ryan> not bad considering my bro is surfing the web and playing games =)
[02:27] <K-Ryan> 48%
[02:27] <K-Ryan> 49%
[02:27] <K-Ryan> 50%!
[02:27] <dwidmann> I'm jealous :(
[02:28] <j__> I need to occupy myself for the next 6hrs, ideas? sleeping is not an option
[02:28] <K-Ryan> j__ goto your terminal
[02:28] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install barrage
[02:28] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install craft
[02:28] <K-Ryan> games =P
[02:29] <dwidmann> j__, install crack-attack and frozen-bubble, or maybe kmahjongg
[02:29] <j__> barrage is a Rampart copy, right?
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Don't know what Rampart is
[02:29] <j__> craft is what?
[02:29] <K-Ryan> kmahjongg is good
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Craft is kind of an RTS
[02:29] <j__> castles, cannons, shooting
[02:29] <rmarianski> craft - Warcraft 2-like multi-player real-time strategy game
[02:29] <K-Ryan> !craft
[02:29] <ubotu> craft: Warcraft 2-like multi-player real-time strategy game. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1008 kB, installed size 14752 kB
[02:30] <K-Ryan> 2/3 of the way done!
[02:31] <K-Ryan> 7/10
[02:31] <dwidmann> I want that internet connection ...
[02:31] <K-Ryan> lol
[02:32] <soulrider> !barrage
[02:32] <ubotu> barrage: Rather violent action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-1 (edgy), package size 399 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[02:32] <soulrider> thanks
[02:32] <K-Ryan> barrage is fun, you're a cannon and have to bombard things passing by
[02:32] <soulrider> !botsnack
[02:32] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:32] <K-Ryan> Hah!
[02:32] <malik_> how do i remove firefox and completely remove all of its settings from system?
[02:32] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[02:32] <K-Ryan> 3/4 done
[02:32] <soulrider> malik_: sudo aptitude purge firefox
[02:32] <dwidmann> yum? NOoooooo, ubotu has defected to SuSE T_T
[02:33] <soulrider> LOL
[02:33] <K-Ryan> 4/5 done
[02:34] <K-Ryan> 17/20
[02:34] <soulrider> K-Ryan: we got it :P
[02:34] <K-Ryan> You are all going to watch it with me =)
[02:35] <soulrider> until an opt gets pissed off and kicks you :P
[02:35] <soulrider> op*
[02:35] <K-Ryan> Why would they kick me? Nobody is talking
[02:35] <K-Ryan> And I'm enjoying this
[02:35] <K-Ryan> 9/10
[02:35] <K-Ryan> =)
[02:35] <dwidmann> and I'm crying out of jealousy :( I'm stuck with a lousy satellite connection
[02:36] <soulrider> dwidmann: speed ?
[02:36] <K-Ryan> I love watching the terminal
[02:36] <K-Ryan> it's like the matrix, but you can actually read everything
[02:36] <soulrider> lol
[02:36] <soulrider> lol, i like the console
[02:36] <dwidmann> speed tops around 80kbs, wouldn't be too bad if there weren't an ugly FAP to ruin it ...
[02:37] <soulrider> makes me feel geeky :P
[02:37] <soulrider> dwidmann: thats faster than mine :P
[02:37] <K-Ryan> 80kb/s? it still gets stuff done
[02:37] <soulrider> and whats a FAP ?
[02:37] <K-Ryan> 19/20
[02:37] <soulrider> K-Ryan: wtf? 80 is great!
[02:37] <K-Ryan> So is my 670kb/s atm
[02:37] <K-Ryan> =)
[02:37] <dwidmann> Fair Access Policy, they cut the connection for about 8-12 hours after I have downloaded around 130mb
[02:38] <soulrider> wtf? really? why ?
[02:38] <K-Ryan> 99%
[02:38] <K-Ryan> WOO!
[02:38] <K-Ryan> DONE!
[02:38] <dwidmann> my momma always said that satellite internet providers are the devil?
[02:38] <K-Ryan> 576MB in 18m52s (509kb/s)
[02:39] <dwidmann> in other words, I say it's because they're jerks.
[02:39] <K-Ryan> Sounds like they want more money for less work
[02:40] <macronyx> hi..someone unsing krusader? I can't find the way how to save ftp session?
[02:40] <dwidmann> here's another way to put it, they "sell more bandwidth than they actually have on the assumption that people won't use it, and when the people do use it then they get pissy and complain"
[02:40] <K-Ryan> Yep
[02:40] <soulrider> is there another ISP around there ?
[02:40] <K-Ryan> uhh, I'm getting a lot of warning things while upgrading
[02:41] <macronyx> Ctrl+N New Network Connection but no way how to save those dates?
[02:41] <K-Ryan> theres a lot going on and it looks ok
[02:41] <dwidmann> warnings like?
[02:41] <K-Ryan> moves too fast
[02:41] <dwidmann> soulrider, I wish
[02:41] <K-Ryan> why do you think he has satellite?
[02:41] <dwidmann> Well, I could get dialup ... that's my only other option
[02:41] <K-Ryan> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[02:41] <soulrider> that REALLY sucks
[02:41] <K-Ryan> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[02:42] <K-Ryan>         LANGUAGE = "en",
[02:42] <K-Ryan>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[02:42] <soulrider> every time they stop your connection after the 130mb you should call them and go berserk
[02:42] <K-Ryan>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[02:42] <K-Ryan>     are supported and installed on your system.
[02:42] <K-Ryan> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[02:42] <K-Ryan> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[02:42] <K-Ryan> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[02:42] <dwidmann> ignore the locale warnings for now k-ryan
[02:42] <K-Ryan>         LANGUAGE = "en",
[02:42] <K-Ryan>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[02:42] <K-Ryan>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[02:42] <K-Ryan>     are supported and installed on your system.
[02:42] <K-Ryan> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[02:42] <K-Ryan> Sorry for the spammage
[02:42] <K-Ryan> Meant to paste in pastebin >.>
[02:42] <K-Ryan> Okay, it just kind of made me go "Oh what the hell is going on now?"
[02:43] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[02:43] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:43] <K-Ryan> Is there any purpose to that lol?
[02:43] <dwidmann> self satisfaction?
[02:43] <K-Ryan> Does he become "ubotu(fat)" if we give him too many?
[02:43] <K-Ryan> lol..
[02:44] <dwidmann> lol
[02:45] <dwidmann> K-Ryan, after that upgrade is finished, for matters of safety, run "sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" just to make sure it got everything.
[02:45] <K-Ryan> can i type it like that?
[02:45] <dwidmann> Yes.
[02:45] <dwidmann> or you could copy and paste, without the quotes, if you so desired
[02:45] <K-Ryan> so thats kind of like "install this, then install this"
[02:45] <K-Ryan> well "do this, then that"
[02:46] <dwidmann> sure, why not
[02:46] <K-Ryan> =P
[02:46] <K-Ryan> Then just give it a quick reboot?
[02:46] <dwidmann> it should already be "all there", it's just a very, very good idea to do this after the upgrade though, to ensure it didn't miss anything, because if it had, you could be left with something like say ... an unbootable system?
[02:47] <dwidmann> Well, yeah, then just give it a reboot
[02:47] <K-Ryan> Okey
[02:48] <K-Ryan> http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1618/snapshot1sp1.jpg
[02:49] <K-Ryan> i just read a "Unpacking popularity contest"
[02:49] <K-Ryan> in the terminal
[02:49] <K-Ryan> What is that? o.O
[02:49] <dwidmann> popularity contest ... I forget what that package does
[02:49] <dwidmann> !info popularity-contest
[02:49] <ubotu> popularity-contest: Vote for your favourite packages automatically. In component main, is standard. Version 1.33ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 212 kB
[02:49] <K-Ryan> o.O
[02:53] <K-Ryan> hmmm
[02:53] <K-Ryan> !vista
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <K-Ryan> !windowsvista
[02:53] <lupine_85> !drm
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowsvista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <lupine_85> lol
[02:53] <K-Ryan> !windows
[02:53] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:53] <K-Ryan> heheh
[02:53] <lupine_85> !pwned-by-microsoft
[02:53] <K-Ryan> nearest mental health institute, heheh
[02:53] <lupine_85> sulk
[02:53] <lupine_85> bad ubotu
[02:53] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[02:53] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> well.  tagtool has effectively mangled a ton of id3 tags.
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> that's lovely
[02:54] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido, I bet
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !evil
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <K-Ryan> !tux
[02:54] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that's one thing i still go to wine for
[02:55] <dwidmann> Sorry, I don't know anything about evil either, please try searching www.microsoft.com ...
[02:55] <K-Ryan> lol!
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ultra tag editor
[02:55] <dwidmann> Hmm, I always found amarok to be sufficient for tagging ..
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> mass tagging albums from freedb?
[02:56] <dwidmann> Hmm, I haven't done any mass tagging in a while, I used to have something that did that though  ...
[02:56] <dwidmann> I've got everything tagged though, so I guess I forgot what it was ... most of my stuff I rip myself anyway.
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> if i'm just editing files here and there, i use amarok
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> my big problem with tags is my sansa e260
[02:57] <dwidmann> What's that?
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> it doesn't like id3v1 tags, and doesn't like id3v2.4 either
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> mp3 player
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> 4gb flash-based, nano-like form factor
[02:58] <K-Ryan> my video camera doubles as an mp3 player =)
[02:58] <K-Ryan> 2gb sd card
[02:59] <K-Ryan> headphones or the one speaker on it
[02:59] <K-Ryan> plus it takes digital stills
[02:59] <K-Ryan> up to 8mega pixels
[03:00] <K-Ryan> the video isnt bad either ,640x480
[03:00] <K-Ryan> and it's Kubuntu friendly
[03:00] <K-Ryan> =)
[03:00] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: hmm, I just did a quick apt-cache search and I wonder if "easytag" would do it for you
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i think i've tried almost all of them :(
[03:01] <K-Ryan> setup seems to have stalled at "setting up libxmlsec1-nss (1.2.9-3ubuntu2)  . . .
[03:02] <K-Ryan> "
[03:02] <dwidmann> what sort of tags does your player like Daisuke_Ido
[03:02] <dwidmann> if it won't take id3v1/2
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> id3v2 through id3v2.3
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it just doesn't like 2.4, which is what easytag writes
[03:02] <dwidmann> hmm
[03:02] <dwidmann> picky isn't it
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm hoping that the next firmware update will fix that
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it is
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> not to mention the headache trying to get playlists on the damn thing
[03:03] <K-Ryan> !libxmlsec1-nss
[03:03] <ubotu> libxmlsec1-nss: Nss engine for the XML security library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.9-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 252 kB
[03:04] <K-Ryan> uhh, any idea why upgrading to edgy has stalled?
[03:05] <firecrotc1> K-Ryan: where has it stalled?
[03:05] <K-Ryan> "Setting up libxmlsec1-nss (1.2.9- 3ubuntu2)  . . ."
[03:06] <iron> can any one help me find streamturner?
[03:07] <firecrotc1> K-Ryan: are you upgrading using apt-get dist-upgrade, or did you just change your sources.list to edgy?
[03:07] <K-Ryan> could it be because i have konversation open?
[03:07] <K-Ryan> firecrotc1 I had to use some sed command
[03:07] <firecrotc1> wait what? Why?
[03:08] <dwidmann> sudo sed -e s/dapper/edgy/ -i /etc/apt/sources.list <--- this one
[03:09] <firecrotc1> Okay, I see.  If I recall correctly, there are a LOT of problems with upgrading by just editing your sources.list file (which is what you did)
[03:09] <firecrotc1> You should use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Uhh, I used these
[03:09] <K-Ryan>  sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <K-Ryan> [20:17]  <rEvolution27>   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:10] <dwidmann> k-ryan, you say it just stalled, right, if it stalled that's a problem betwen you and the server you're downloading from
[03:10] <K-Ryan> im not downloading
[03:10] <firecrotc1> dwidmann: except he said that it stalled while configuring one of the packages
[03:10] <K-Ryan> it says "Setting up libxmlsec1-nss (1.2.9- 3ubuntu2)  . . ."
[03:10] <dwidmann> hmm
[03:10] <dwidmann> some of them just take a long while to configure ...
[03:10] <thev> arghh! Apt is broken.  It keeps trying to upgrad wpasupplicant but it always fails, and I can't remove the package either.  Now I get a failure anytime I try to install a different package as well
[03:10] <dwidmann> I doubt they'd take more than 5 minutes though
[03:10] <thev> any ideas?
[03:11] <dwidmann> thev: apt-get -f install, then try to remove it again
[03:11] <iron> does any one know where i can find streamturner?
[03:11] <K-Ryan> its been at least 5 minutes
[03:11] <K-Ryan> almost 10
[03:11] <K-Ryan> wait
[03:12] <K-Ryan> dont i feel stupid
[03:12] <thev> dwidmann - tried that.  No dice.
[03:12] <dwidmann> !info streamtuner | iron
[03:12] <ubotu> streamtuner: A GUI audio stream directory browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 606 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[03:12] <K-Ryan> for some reason the scroll bar was way up high
[03:12] <K-Ryan> >.>
[03:12] <thev> it returns the same error as the upgrade
[03:12] <firecrotc1> Hahahahaha, I've done that before, K-Ryan
[03:12] <thev> something about the script returning error exit status 10
[03:12] <dwidmann> I'm guilty as well k-ryan
[03:12] <K-Ryan> Okay now I've got something else
[03:12] <K-Ryan> Configuration file `/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc'
[03:13] <K-Ryan>  ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
[03:13] <dwidmann> thev: hmm, how about dpkg --purge packagename
[03:13] <K-Ryan>  ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
[03:13] <K-Ryan>    What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
[03:13] <K-Ryan>     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[03:13] <K-Ryan>     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[03:13] <K-Ryan>       D     : show the differences between the versions
[03:13] <K-Ryan>       Z     : background this process to examine the situation
[03:13] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[03:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:13] <lupine_85> etc
[03:13] <K-Ryan> I know lupine
[03:13] <dwidmann> that's your choice k-ryan, debhelper is throwing choices at you, asking if you want to upgrade certain files, because you might have configured them
[03:14] <K-Ryan> i dont know what the file is though
[03:14] <K-Ryan> !qt_plugins_3.3rc
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt_plugins_3.3rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <dwidmann> then say yes,
[03:14] <K-Ryan> okey
[03:14] <thev> Package is in a very bad inconsisten state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal
[03:14] <thev> I think it's just toying with me at this point
[03:14] <dwidmann> thev: "apt-get --reinstall install packagename" then?
[03:15] <thev> same error
[03:15] <thev> script returned error exit status 10
[03:16] <dwidmann> hmm, thev, I have an idea, if you're running edgy
[03:16] <lupine_85> ah, it's a script problem?
[03:16] <thev> yeah, edgy
[03:16] <thev> I want nor need this package
[03:16] <lupine_85> cat the script, find the error, fix the problem
[03:16] <dwidmann> thev: sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh
[03:16] <thev> that's the real kicker here
[03:16] <iron> i did not get any thing
[03:16] <lupine_85> oh, and report a bug. why not?
[03:17] <dwidmann> !universe | iron
[03:17] <ubotu> iron: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:17] <thev> dwinmann - what does that do?
[03:17] <thev> I typed it but nothing appeared to happen :)
[03:17] <dwidmann> switches your default shell to bash ... some people have difficulty realizing that their scripts need to be posix compliant ...
[03:17] <zblach> i'm having an interesting problem with the power manager. whenever i finally load K, it detects my laptop switch as pressed, and blanks the screen
[03:17] <thev> I dunno what posix is :)
[03:17] <zblach> how do I force a recheck?
[03:18] <zblach> or better, fix this problem elegantly?
[03:18] <dwidmann> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/posix
[03:19] <lupine_85> standards++ :)
[03:20] <thev> lupine_85 - you make the solution sound so simple.  I'm still trying to decipher what script I need to cat
[03:20] <lupine_85> mm, it's not simple generally
[03:21] <lupine_85> dwidmann's solution - if it works - is better
[03:21] <lupine_85> the error should have the path & name of the script in it somewhere, though
[03:21] <thev> oh, wait - last line "/usr/bin/dpkg" returned an error
[03:22] <lupine_85> no, that's not it :)
[03:22] <lupine_85> don't cat that
[03:22] <thev> durn
[03:22] <bonbonthejon> anyone know of a way to split up a pdf in kubuntu
[03:22] <K-Ryan> Wow, regenerating font caches take forever!
[03:22] <dannybuntu> hello - firefox in kubuntu giving me bus error - what does that mean?
[03:23] <thev> subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[03:23] <thev> maybe?
[03:23] <K-Ryan> woo
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Edgy installation done
[03:23] <K-Ryan> dwidmann what was I supposed to type after it finished?
[03:23] <dannybuntu> can anyone tell me why firefox is giving me bus error?
[03:24] <lupine_85> hmm. pdfjam has some of the functionality
[03:24] <K-Ryan> sorry dannybuntu, I'm not sure what that is
[03:24] <dwidmann> back
[03:24] <K-Ryan> I use Konqueror
[03:24] <dannybuntu> =[
[03:24] <dannybuntu> does konqi have google browser sync?
[03:24] <lupine_85> thev: it'll be in /var somewhere, it'll have the package name and 'postinst' in the path/filename also
[03:24] <K-Ryan> Yep
[03:25] <dannybuntu> it does?
[03:25] <K-Ryan> If you mean the little google search box, yes
[03:25] <lupine_85> aha!
[03:25] <dannybuntu> no - the one that synchronizes your bookmarks with other pcs
[03:25] <lupine_85> bonbonthejon: pdftk
[03:25] <thev> hrmmm... ok
[03:25] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, don't know
[03:25] <lupine_85> "  - Burst a PDF document into single pages"
[03:25] <bonbonthejon> lupine_85: thanks, i just found it
[03:25] <lupine_85> :)
[03:25] <K-Ryan> dwidmann, install finished what was I supposed to type after?
[03:26] <lupine_85> apt-cache++, etc
[03:26] <dwidmann> k-ryan, I think I said "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:26] <K-Ryan> yeah, thats it
[03:27] <K-Ryan> i dont know what it's doing now, but it's doing something
[03:28] <thev> result! I found the file.
[03:29] <thev> It jsut has the repository it used listed?
[03:29] <dwidmann> another week or two until we have kde 3.5.6 :)
[03:29] <dwidmann> k-ryan: that should be it ... should
[03:29] <K-Ryan> mmm
[03:30] <K-Ryan> more selecting and unpacking
[03:30] <thev> lupine_85 - any hints on what I should be doing next?
[03:31] <K-Ryan> now some setting up
[03:31] <K-Ryan> y
[03:32] <K-Ryan> oops...
[03:32] <K-Ryan> okay, time to test out edgy
[03:32] <K-Ryan> restarting now
[03:32] <dwidmann> http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php
[03:33] <lupine_85> thev: the dirty solution is to make line 2 == exit 0
[03:33] <endo602> how do i install an nvidia geforce 6600 gt card?  with driver?
[03:34] <lupine_85> but see what it's doing and try to work out why it's failing
[03:36] <K-Ryan> i got REALLY worried there...
[03:36] <K-Ryan> got some error about ntfs-fs 1.2 and i need 3.0
[03:36] <K-Ryan> but i seem to be working
[03:37] <dwidmann> so things are going alright now k-ryan?
[03:37] <K-Ryan> seems like it
[03:37] <K-Ryan> except i have 32 updated packages availible
[03:37] <dwidmann> Well, then, congratulation :)
[03:37] <K-Ryan> and i already updated them twice o.O
[03:37] <dwidmann> update them?
[03:38] <dwidmann> k-ryan, yes, upgrading in ubuntu can be a PITA
[03:38] <K-Ryan> so its like upgrading from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5
[03:38] <K-Ryan> cant just go from 1 to 5?
[03:39] <K-Ryan> or are they installed, and just being a PITA?
[03:39] <K-Ryan> oh now i know why
[03:39] <K-Ryan> i have to go through every one and click "request upgrade"!
[03:40] <endo602> can someone help me install nvidia drivers for gforce 660gt?
[03:40] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[03:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:40] <wolfwalker> Okay, I am now officially ticked
[03:40] <K-Ryan> What's up?
[03:41] <wolfwalker> I'm currently on my Windows computer
[03:41] <K-Ryan> Mhm
[03:41] <wolfwalker> I tried to access internet through my Kubuntu computer
[03:41] <wolfwalker> Wanted to download some programs, Adept is a marvel
[03:41] <wolfwalker> But it can't recognize the internet connection, apparently
[03:41] <wolfwalker> And my internet provider doesn't support Linux
[03:42] <K-Ryan> How would they know you are running Linux? o.O
[03:42] <K-Ryan> Internet is internet right?
[03:42] <wolfwalker> I told them
[03:42] <wolfwalker> Apparently not
[03:42] <K-Ryan> Well why the hell not? Did they give an explanation?
[03:42] <wolfwalker> Nope. Just said they don't have any tech support for Linux
[03:42] <thev> luppnie_85 - the dirty solution didn't seem to work
[03:43] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[03:43] <jimmy_> Is there a maximum File size on a FAT filesystem? I am trying to copy a 5.1GB file, and it always errors at 4GB
[03:43] <K-Ryan> wolfwalker did you change anything recently?
[03:43] <wolfwalker> I recall something about FAT having a 4 gig limit
[03:43] <firecrotc1> That would be the limit, jimmy_
[03:43] <wolfwalker> Or was that something else...........
[03:43] <K-Ryan> 5.1GB file? What is so big?
[03:43] <elyon> Hey guys, I can't remember... what's the name of the alternative to Cedega?
[03:44] <K-Ryan> Or is it a .tar.gz?
[03:44] <wolfwalker> And what in the world kind of file is 5.1 gig?
[03:44] <K-Ryan> lol
[03:44] <firecrotc1> DVD ISO?
[03:44] <jimmy_> it is an ISO
[03:44] <jimmy_> yep
[03:44] <dwidmann> jimmy: yes, for fat32, the max filesize is something like 4 gig, maybe less
[03:44] <K-Ryan> Of? =)
[03:44] <wolfwalker> A whopping big iso
[03:44] <firecrotc1> Knoppix DVD, of course!
[03:44] <wolfwalker> Try reformatting as ext3
[03:44] <jimmy_> usually they are around 7 or 8
[03:44] <dwidmann> 5.1gig would fit on a dual layer disk ...
[03:45] <jimmy_> i am trying to transfer to an external HD, but i need it readable by windows as well
[03:45] <wolfwalker> Ah
[03:45] <wolfwalker> Bummer
[03:45] <jimmy_> right, but my Dual Laer drive is somewhere else
[03:45] <dwidmann> jimmy_: what about that one extension 2 driver for windows?
[03:45] <K-Ryan> Can you compress it and split it?
[03:45] <dwidmann> *extended 2
[03:45] <dwidmann> *ext2
[03:45] <jimmy_> tried compressing it, but it won't do it
[03:46] <K-Ryan> Can't compress and split into pieces?
[03:46] <firecrotc1> !ext2fs
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <jimmy_> I need the HD to be read by all windows boxes
[03:46] <firecrotc1> Hrm, I think NTFS has support for files that large
[03:47] <wolfwalker> So how do I get online with my Kubuntu computer?
[03:47] <jimmy_> but Linux does not have reliable support for NTFS right?
[03:47] <wolfwalker> No, at this time Linux can read from but not write to NTFS
[03:47] <K-Ryan> support? yes. reliable? no
[03:47] <dwidmann> jimmy_, I think zip can split files
[03:47] <K-Ryan> .zip can't
[03:47] <K-Ryan> .rar can
[03:47] <firecrotc1> I've never had a problem writing to NTFS partitions
[03:47] <dwidmann> Yes, .zip can
[03:47] <dwidmann> I'm looking at it right now, the man p[age doesn't lie :)
[03:48] <dwidmann> zipsplit, hmm, what else could it do?
[03:48] <jimmy_> alright, what is the command for .rar or .zip to compress with seperate files
[03:49] <K-Ryan> Hmm, well I know Winzip didn't do it
[03:49] <K-Ryan> And neither did Winrar
[03:49] <jimmy_> I know .rar does on windows, at least it did a year ago
[03:49] <K-Ryan> Yeah, .rar does
[03:49] <dwidmann> I've done it with winrar before also, years ago
[03:49] <K-Ryan> You can try Winrar
[03:49] <jimmy_> can tar break up files
[03:49] <wolfwalker> So am I doomed to be spending hours installing dependencies for my music programs?
[03:49] <firecrotc1> I'm having trouble finding a program that will work with my iPod video that will actually let me transfer videos
[03:49] <wolfwalker> Is there no hope for my Kubuntu computer to get on the 'net?
[03:50] <K-Ryan> !blast
[03:50] <ubotu> blast: Vent your frustration with programs by blowing holes in them. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-13.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 76 kB
[03:50] <firecrotc1> !ipod
[03:50] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:50] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, this game "blast" won't show up in my games thing
[03:50] <firecrotc1> !botsnack
[03:50] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> meh :\
[03:50] <elyon> wolfwalker: Uhm... you're already online... how do you think you'd be talking to us?
[03:50] <K-Ryan> Or anywhere else, no why?
[03:50] <K-Ryan> elyon, he's on Windows
[03:50] <elyon> wolfwalker: Or are you not on that machine? lol
[03:50] <elyon> gotcha
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> all i want is to get sanse playlister working under wine
[03:50] <wolfwalker> I'm online on my M$ computer
[03:50] <elyon> K-Ryan: Caught that right after I said it lol
[03:51] <K-Ryan> Righto =P
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> but no, it's having issues registering .ocx libraries
[03:51] <K-Ryan> WOW, I said "no why"
[03:51] <K-Ryan> *****Know why?*****
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> no, why?
[03:51] <dwidmann> zip filename.iso && zipsplit -n filesizeinbytes filename.iso.zip
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[03:52] <jimmy_> tar also seems to have a multivolume option, would that work better?
[03:52] <sampan> wolfwalker  your isp has no way of knowing what OS is connecting to their internet connection.  you CAN get on the net with your Kubuntu, but it all depends on how you connect to your ISP (pppoe? dialup? through a router?)
[03:53] <dwidmann> daisuke_ido, worst case scenario you could use vmware, if you have a windoze license laying around not being used
[03:53] <sampan> wireless?  etc., etc.
[03:53] <wolfwalker> Um.......... just a DSL modem
[03:53] <jimmy_> problem with that command, dwidman, is that for some reason, zip can't compress it in the first place as a whole
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> which i actually do
[03:53] <wolfwalker> With ethernet cable from the modem to the computer
[03:53] <firecrotc1> sampan, actually an ISP probably can determine what OS you're using
[03:53] <K-Ryan> Why does everyone say "Windoze" or some other strange spelling of it?
[03:54] <wolfwalker> Windoze is a Linux distro
[03:54] <K-Ryan> Oh...
[03:54] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: It's a term of derision
[03:54] <dwidmann> out of hate and loathing of microshaft?
[03:54] <wolfwalker> It is meant to imitate as closely as possible Windows
[03:54] <DaSkreech> like Micro$oft
[03:54] <sampan> firecrotc1  :X  would be pretty intrusive if they did ... in any case, i suspect he just needs to run pppoeconf to set up kubuntu to connect through his dsl modem
[03:54] <K-Ryan> Those, what dwidmann and DaSkreech said
[03:54] <wolfwalker> run what?
[03:54] <K-Ryan> I don't get it
[03:55] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: I could get philosphical but basically we mock it as much as possible
[03:55] <wolfwalker> lol
[03:55] <dwidmann> yes, what DaSkreech said
[03:55] <wolfwalker> At least DaSkreech is honest
[03:55] <wolfwalker> And realistic
[03:55] <DaSkreech> very Primary school playground type behaviour
[03:55] <K-Ryan> misspelling it is mockery?
[03:55] <wolfwalker> Yea, verily
[03:55] <sampan> wolfwalker  open up a terminal (konsole) and run pppoeconf (might have to do it with sudo -- can't remember, been a while since i did it) ... it's a text config utility that should let you set up your kubuntu to connect via pppoe (you'll need to know your login/pw for your isp)
[03:55] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: Ever went to  a primary/prep school?
[03:55] <K-Ryan> Sounds more like trying not to infringe some kind of copyright
[03:56] <firecrotc1> !gtkpod
[03:56] <wolfwalker> lol
[03:56] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[03:56] <firecrotc1> !botsnack
[03:56] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:56] <wolfwalker> Two points for K-Ryan
[03:56] <K-Ryan> =P
[03:56] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: Ever seen some child no one liked and they took his name and twisted some slight way just so they could mock him/her
[03:56] <dwidmann> micro$oft came into use because microsoft cares for little else than their own wallet. microshaft came about when they gave ibm the shaft way back when
[03:56] <DaSkreech> That's us except we are between 25-90 years old
[03:56] <wolfwalker> Actually, I see nothing wrong with Windows. It's a good os as far as it goes
[03:56] <wolfwalker> It just doesn't go far enough in security
[03:56] <K-Ryan> Yes, but I mean
[03:56] <firecrotc1> Will gtkpod mess up the stuff that is already on my iPod?
[03:57] <K-Ryan> Eh
[03:57] <K-Ryan> Oh well...
[03:57] <wolfwalker> firecrotc1, if you use your iPod as your primary music storage device, you're screwed anyway
[03:57] <wolfwalker> It will eventually go down
[03:57] <dwidmann> wolfwalker, in its (poor) attempt to be user friendly, windows kills any attempts that it makes at actually being secure :\
[03:57] <jimmy_> In tar, does the multi-volume option mean it breaks up the compressed file into pieces?
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Giving something a proper name gives it respect. We don't respect Windoze for hte most part
[03:58] <firecrotc1> Well, right now, I do have most of my music just on my iPod... I need to find a way to get it off my ipod onto my external hard drive :)
[03:58] <wolfwalker> |firecrotc1:| I keep my music collection as FLAC files (lossless) on my computer, with DVD backups.
[03:58] <dwidmann> DaSkreech was a bit off though, I'm only 20 ;)
[03:59] <wolfwalker> firecrotc1, you're sunk. iJunk.......... er.......... iTunes and iPod encrypt the music when you transfer them. If your iPod ever goes down, your music is gone with the wind.
[03:59] <firecrotc1> wolfwalker: I'd do the DVD backup option, but I don't have a DVD burner
[03:59] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Oh you are fully allowed to be an ass then
[03:59] <dwidmann> hehehe
[03:59] <dwidmann> you'd better believe it
[04:00] <K-Ryan> Does 15 almost 16 count for anything?
[04:00] <wolfwalker> So, go to System, Konsole Terminal Program, and run pppoeconf?
[04:00] <firecrotc1> So about getting the music off of my iPod... I know there are ways, but all I've seen are Winblows programs
[04:00] <K-Ryan> Dare I ask why Edgy comes with a "Tea Time" package...
[04:00] <wolfwalker> Oh there are ways of breaking the encryption
[04:00] <wolfwalker> But none legal
[04:00] <dwidmann> k-ryan: edgy doesn't, kdetoys does.
[04:00] <K-Ryan> Oh...
[04:01] <firecrotc1> wolfwalker, I don't think they're encrypted, per-se
[04:01] <sampan> wolfwalker  that's what i used to do (with dapper) to get my kubuntu online (now my router handles the login)
[04:01] <wolfwalker> Easiest way is to play it and record off the soundcard with Audacity or another music program
[04:01] <wolfwalker> Oh, they're NOT encrypted?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: What tea time?
[04:01] <wolfwalker> How in the world did you get iJunk to play them without encrypting them?
[04:01] <K-Ryan> I just installed a bunch of toys, and none of them show...
[04:01] <K-Ryan> !kteatime
[04:01] <ubotu> kteatime: KDE utility for making a fine cup of tea. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 388 kB
[04:01] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: the teatime program in the kdetoys package
[04:02] <K-Ryan> That DaSkreech
[04:02] <firecrotc1> wolfwalker, I think you're confusing "encryption" with something else... maybe encoding?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: doesn't come with it. You installed toys
[04:02] <wolfwalker> Nope. But if your iPod did not encrypt the files, that's great!
[04:02] <K-Ryan> Yes I realize that
[04:03] <wolfwalker> The acid test will be............. will the files play in your average music player program? Or will they only play in iJunk?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: sorry :-)
[04:03] <dwidmann> breaking encryption, if it's a good algorithm, would prove to be most difficult to break. The easiest way to break said encryption would be to break somebodies nose and get the password :O
[04:03] <K-Ryan> It's okay =P
[04:03] <firecrotc1> They play in any media player, wolfwalker.
[04:03] <K-Ryan> wait wait wait, wolfwalker
[04:03] <wolfwalker> Then they're not encrypted
[04:04] <wolfwalker> Congratulations
[04:04] <firecrotc1> It's just that they are stored with weird file names
[04:04] <K-Ryan> The itunes thing for Linux is called ijunk?
[04:04] <K-Ryan> AHAHAH!
[04:04] <wolfwalker> No, I just don't have much respect for iTunes
[04:04] <wolfwalker> Or iPod
[04:04] <firecrotc1> K-Ryan, he used iJunk to mean that iTunes is junk
[04:04] <firecrotc1> which it is
[04:04] <wolfwalker> I'd recommend a Creative player
[04:04] <K-Ryan> Oh, I thought that was like a Linux program thing...
[04:04] <wolfwalker> Or a Toshiba Gigabeat, although they encrypt files too
[04:05] <phobiac> It's running rockbox though, does that redeem me?
[04:05] <sampan> yeah i hate iTunes -- like the iPod itself, but iTunes is just a PITA ... almost enough to make me install rockbox
[04:05] <firecrotc1> I figure the best thing to do would be to first somehow get all of my music off of my iPod and onto my external HDD
[04:05] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: You could make one
[04:05] <wolfwalker> Minus three points for having an iJunk, plus five for having the native intelligence to use something besides iTunes.
[04:05] <wolfwalker> So, yeah
[04:06] <wolfwalker> You come out with a +2
[04:06] <K-Ryan> Me?
[04:06] <K-Ryan> I don't think so
[04:06] <lovloss> I have just discovered the glorry of Koffice
[04:06] <lovloss> i prefer it to openoffice :D
[04:06] <wolfwalker> No, phobiac
[04:06] <jimmy_> amarok has pretty decent ipod support.
[04:06] <firecrotc1> I'm generally too lazy/don't care enough about my music collection to actually get it done
[04:06] <sampan> wolfwalker  the ipod was a gift -- can't deduct any points ... can ADD points for being smart enough to ACCEPT a gift ;P
[04:06] <wolfwalker> Not you sampan
[04:06] <sampan> oh
[04:06] <wolfwalker> phobiac
[04:06] <phobiac> My ipod was a gift too :(
[04:06] <sampan> phobiac  how do you like rockbox?
[04:07] <phobiac> It's awesome
[04:07] <wolfwalker> And if the ipod was a gift, that negates the minus 3
[04:07] <DaSkreech> lovloss: wonderful :)
[04:07] <sampan> how was the install?
[04:07] <phobiac> Woo
[04:07] <phobiac> The install was pretty easy for me
[04:07] <lovloss> Does anyone here know anything about CMS's and web templates? #html is full of l33ts if anyone
[04:07] <firecrotc1> Does rockbox kill the music that you have on the iPod already?
[04:07] <wolfwalker> So +8 for phobiac for getting it as a gift AND being intelligent enough to use rockbox
[04:07] <lovloss> >.<
[04:07] <jimmy_> sure, lovloss
[04:07] <sampan> lol wolfwalker
[04:07] <phobiac> Although I did it on a windows computer...which I'm assuming is going to deduct some points.
[04:08] <phobiac> firecrotch: No
[04:08] <wolfwalker> ANyway, while I'm on this Windows XP computer and HAVE internet and can be here..............
[04:08] <wolfwalker> What all do I need to know about running pppoeconf?
[04:08] <lovloss> jimmy_: Because i want to be able to change a template and automatically update all the sites using it. That way i can change parts of the page seperately
[04:08] <firecrotc1> phobiac, is it a video iPod that you put it on?
[04:08] <phobiac> firecrotc: Nano
[04:08] <sampan> wolfwalker pppoeconf was pretty self-explanatory when i used it -- you'll just need to know your actual login name and password for the login with your ISP
[04:09] <phobiac> The older nano's
[04:09] <shinigami> hi i just installed dapper 6.06.. amarok doesn't play my mp3 even after apt-get libxine-extracodecs .. anyone can help?
[04:09] <firecrotc1> Close enough to the video :)
[04:09] <wolfwalker> No, phobiac, no points deducted for using a Windows computer. We all have to use one sometimes.
[04:09] <jimmy_> lovloss: well, are you using any sort of software, such as Dreamweaver? Or have spport for anything such as PHP?
[04:09] <phobiac> Woo
[04:09] <wolfwalker> shinigami, convert to ogg
[04:09] <firecrotc1> wolfwalker: so true.  I hate the fact that I have to use Windows for one of my classes
[04:09] <wolfwalker> It's better anyway
[04:09] <endo602> !nvidia
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <DaSkreech> shinigami: What are you using to play it?
[04:09] <wolfwalker> Or musepack, it's peerless for lossy compression at 128kbps or above
[04:10] <lovloss> jimmy_: Well, right now im using the program NVU. Im in linux, so i dont really have dreamweaver. But i do have Aptana and Quanta plus... i just dislike them
[04:10] <lovloss> jimmy_: NVU is almost a text editor. very minor gui assistance
[04:10] <DaSkreech> lovloss: NVU is soooo not CMS
[04:10] <shinigami> ogg?
[04:10] <wolfwalker> ogg vorbis
[04:10] <jimmy_> lovloss; hmm, I think NVU has support for templates
[04:10] <firecrotc1> Speaking of which... does anyone know of a linux IDE for VB.NET?
[04:10] <wolfwalker> Like mp3, only free and better
[04:10] <DaSkreech> shinigami: What are you using to play it?
[04:10] <lovloss> NVU does support templates
[04:10] <shinigami> can i apt-get it? i'm using amarok
[04:10] <Croupier> hey guys i was looking for a rar password recovery for dapper but im not very experienced
[04:10] <lovloss> *BUT* when you change the template, the other pages dont change
[04:10] <DaSkreech> lovloss: It's unmainteined and deprecated so.....
[04:10] <Croupier> can you suggest any sites apart from google
[04:11] <Croupier> tried that already
[04:11] <wolfwalker> shinigami, do you know anything about converting audio formats?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> wolfwalker: Please stop :)
[04:11] <DaSkreech> shinigami: talk to me. What are you using to play it?
[04:11] <wolfwalker> DaSkreech, he's using Amarok he says
[04:11] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:11] <lovloss> Well, what should i do? I need to set up this page so that it will have a static menu using templates. i have the template made.
[04:11] <shinigami> no not interested i just want to play mp3s using amarok
[04:11] <wolfwalker> He said that first thing
[04:11] <jimmy_> Have you looked into a database driven site? using PHP or *gasp* ASP.net?
[04:11] <lovloss> no content yet.
[04:11] <DaSkreech> shinigami: What have you tried so far?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Or Plone?
[04:11] <lovloss> See ive never used php... im really new
[04:12] <Croupier> i found crark but its not really working , anything of the kind ? anywhere i need to look at thank you
[04:12] <phobiac> shinigami: Did you install the files for mp3 support?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> lovloss: What are you trying to accomplish
[04:12] <shinigami> just amarok? the default player?
[04:12] <dwidmann> quanta+ is really quite nice ... integrated khtml kpart for previews :)
[04:12] <jimmy_> I used to use Dreamweaver all the time, and wine supports dreamweaver...
[04:12] <lovloss> DaSkreech: Menu on the left side, content to its right, banner across the top. A page for a band.
[04:12] <shinigami> i apt-get install libxine-extracodecs already
[04:12] <jimmy_> The template features are excellent
[04:12] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Did you add the multiverse?
[04:12] <wolfwalker> amarok runs off the library encoder files. If you don't have mp3 in the main library files, even amarok won't do it.
[04:12] <ericj2190> does anyone know why i get "permission denied" when i try to access any samba shared file with spaces in the filename?
[04:12] <lovloss> i dont use microsoft stuff if i can help it
[04:13] <DaSkreech> lovloss: We like you :)
[04:13] <shinigami> multiverse?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> lovloss: Do you do Web page stuff>
[04:13] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Ah you didn't add multivers?
[04:13] <jimmy_> Dreamweaver is not Microsoft, its adobe
[04:13] <lovloss> DaSkreech: I made this.  http://www.vasilisagames.com
[04:13] <shinigami> yes i didn't..because i didn't know what's that..haha
[04:13] <lovloss> Adobe, from what i understand, is under MS
[04:13] <DaSkreech> shinigami: How did you apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:14] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Ok Want help with that ?
[04:14] <shinigami> oh u mean souces.list ?
[04:14] <DaSkreech> shinigami: yes
[04:14] <jimmy_> nope, they origianally were a MAC only company actually
[04:14] <lovloss> really... perhaps i heard from the  wrong source then
[04:14] <shinigami> yea i did add the multiverses i guess
[04:14] <DaSkreech> lovloss: Ha ha :) That's really biased :-)
[04:14] <DaSkreech> shinigami: can You do something for me?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> shinigami: do you know pastebin?
[04:15] <shinigami> no
[04:15] <lovloss> Im a biased person. Anyway i prefer to use open source regardless
[04:15] <DaSkreech> !paste | shinigami
[04:15] <ubotu> shinigami: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:15] <DaSkreech> lovloss: No problems. Just you come off as hostile on the front page of the site :)
[04:15] <shinigami> !paste
[04:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:15] <lovloss> ohh you mean my site
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[04:15] <jimmy_> Nvu does have template support
[04:16] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Go to that site and paste the contents of your sources.list
[04:16] <DaSkreech> shinigami: if you need help just say my name
[04:16] <php-freak> hey guys
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !tab |shin
[04:16] <ubotu> shin: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:16] <lovloss> haha i meant to be hostile... to MS
[04:16] <dwidmann> jimmy_: what doesn't ... well, unless we're counting vim and kate ;)
[04:16] <php-freak> my website look find in every other browser accept for konquer why is this?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !tab | shinigami
[04:16] <ubotu> shinigami: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:16] <DaSkreech> php-freak: Might want to ask in #kde
[04:16] <lovloss> Now hold on, NVU has templates, BUT, you cant update the pages when you change templates in it
[04:17] <ericj2190> hola jontec
[04:17] <lovloss> Did someone say quanta+ can?
[04:17] <WiglyWorm> Hey, quick questoin... fact checking, really...
[04:17] <dwidmann> php-freak, perhaps a small design flaw, either that or a small browser flaw.
[04:17] <jimmy_> ah ok, i have never used Nvu templates, i guess they were designed bad
[04:17] <shinigami> its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1913/
[04:17] <shinigami> !tab
[04:17] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:17] <shinigami> !tab shinigami
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab shinigami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <lovloss> its not the templates. its the fact that the program has no function for automatically updating them
[04:17] <lovloss> which is like, such a simplething to do.
[04:18] <jimmy_> lol, I understand
[04:18] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Alright that looks good
[04:18] <DaSkreech> shinigami: close amarok
[04:18] <shinigami> done
[04:18] <WiglyWorm> I keep getting an error when I try to run a program I installed.. the error is "error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"...
[04:18] <php-freak> dwidmann: Yea well it looks fine in other browsers accept konquer, which granted I don't know anyone that uses konquer
[04:18] <php-freak> not that many people anyways
[04:18] <DaSkreech> shinigami: type in sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:18] <lovloss> my problem with quanta plus is that if you ever edit anything in the gui interface, it messes up
[04:18] <phobiac> WiglWorm: You might need that package
[04:19] <dwidmann> php-freak: linkage?
[04:19] <shinigami> updating.. takes awhile
[04:19] <DaSkreech> php-freak: #kde would give you a much better answer than here
[04:19] <shinigami> i did apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get dist-upgrade -y already
[04:19] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Ahh that's how you got from dapper to edgy?
[04:19] <WiglyWorm> I found some random website (I don't know if it's to be trusted or not), and it says the solution is to type "ln -s libSDL-1.1.so.0 libSDL-1.2.so.0" what exactly does this command even do?
[04:19] <lampar> what are you talking about?
[04:19] <WiglyWorm> Am I going to break something?
[04:20] <shinigami> OH I GET IT
[04:20] <shinigami> i'm using dapper
[04:20] <WiglyWorm> Phobiac: I tried downloading a couple packages with Adept.. it didn't seem to do too much for me.
[04:20] <shinigami> i changed the sources to edgy
[04:20] <dwidmann> I know a fair bit about ripping the hairs out of m-- I mean, designing web pages to make them show up right in a variety of browsers
[04:20] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: It makes a link between SDL 1.1 and SDL 1.2. If the program doesn't NEED a call from SDL1.2 it will work
[04:20] <wolfwalker> No luck
[04:20] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Yeah I noticed that
[04:20] <shinigami> hah!!! ok i changing to old souces.list
[04:21] <sampan> wolfwalker  still no joy on connecting?
[04:21] <wolfwalker> When I tried to run pppoeconf, it said "please become root before running pppoeconf!"
[04:21] <nik> sup all
[04:21] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Wait wait
[04:21] <wolfwalker> Become root?
[04:21] <jimmy_> so, lovloss, let me get this straight, you want to have a menu, header, footer, etc. that stay the same, and content that changes
[04:21] <shinigami> but i done that to install sun-java5-jre
[04:21] <sampan> wolfwalker  then run it with "sudo" ... sudo pppoeconf   :)
[04:21] <lampar> wygliyworm... what you did with that command is to create a symbolic
[04:21] <DaSkreech> shinigami: What do you see in the file /etc/issue ?
[04:21] <wolfwalker> I did that too
[04:21] <nik> sudo pppoeconf
[04:21] <wolfwalker> It said no such command
[04:21] <shinigami> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1913/
[04:21] <shinigami> ops
[04:21] <shinigami> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[04:21] <DaSkreech> wolfwalker: which sudo
[04:21] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Ah. umm ok
[04:22] <wolfwalker> I ran sudo pppoeconf
[04:22] <lampar> type sudo pppoeconf
[04:22] <DaSkreech> shinigami: then use the sources.list with dapper
[04:22] <shinigami> changing my sources back....
[04:22] <shinigami> btw, i changed the soucres to install sun-java5-jre ...
[04:22] <shinigami> is there a better way to install sun-java5 with dapper?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> !java
[04:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:22] <DaSkreech> That should tell you
[04:22] <dwidmann> Nothing easier than installing that package, shinigami
[04:23] <wolfwalker> I'm about to give up and just install all the dependencies manually
[04:23] <wolfwalker> As daunting as such a task seems
[04:23] <freshburn> so i got my wireless working with ndiswrapper (hp pavilion laptop kubuntu edgy)
[04:23] <shinigami> i noticed dapper doesn't have this package sun-java5-jre
[04:23] <shinigami> oh
[04:23] <freshburn> but i cant get my stupid modem to work still
[04:23] <shinigami> !Multiverse
[04:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:23] <WiglyWorm> Well... grumblecakes.
[04:23] <DaSkreech> I think the Java page tells you how to install
[04:23] <wolfwalker> !pppoe
[04:23] <sampan> wolfwalker  that's very odd ... pppoeconf was there on dapper and it's here on my fresh edgy too.  it should be there
[04:23] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:23] <WiglyWorm> I tried that command I posted earlier, and I have the same error.
[04:24] <wolfwalker> Yeah, I tried pppoeconf
[04:24] <wolfwalker> It said to become root first
[04:24] <shinigami> java page doesn't give rpm for debian i think
[04:24] <shinigami> !Java
[04:24] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: What are you trying to run?
[04:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:24] <wolfwalker> And I tried sudo pppoeconf
[04:24] <wolfwalker> No such command, apparently
[04:24] <WiglyWorm> Unreal Tournament 2004
[04:24] <DaSkreech> There is no rpm for debian
[04:24] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Ah No apt-get for you :)
[04:24] <dwidmann> alien?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: where do you hit the problem?
[04:24] <sampan> wolfwalker  did you set up a root account?  by default there is none and you should just use "sudo" to temporarily have root powers
[04:25] <DaSkreech> or sudo -i
[04:25] <WiglyWorm> The whole story is when I run the shell script that the installer put on my desktop, I get "Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file"
[04:25] <dwidmann> shinigami, first enable multiverse, then run "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre". Done.
[04:25] <jimmy_> or sudo bash
[04:25] <firecrotc1> Okay, trying to install rockbox on my iPod, and the ipodpatcher gives me an error about the drive not being an iPod
[04:25] <WiglyWorm> I was told to try "/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin --ini=/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004.ini -nohomedir"
[04:25] <wolfwalker> Oh well, here I go again
[04:26] <phobiac> firecrotc: Help with rockbox should really go to the #rockbox channel
[04:26] <WiglyWorm> And when I do that latter command, the splash screen comes up, then I crash to that error message.. cannot open shared object file.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: This is on dapper
[04:26] <lampar> wolfwalker: try this: "sudo passwd root"
[04:26] <freshburn> has anyone dealt with an internal laptop modem with subsystem chip id 103c:3084
[04:26] <dwidmann> DaSkreech, should make no difference.
[04:26] <dwidmann> That's how I did it on dapper.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> oh.. ok
[04:27] <dwidmann> It's the same on Edgy, however, with feisty it's the sun-java6-jre package
[04:27] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Give me the error again?
[04:27] <jimmy_> does "tar -c -M --tape-length=2147483648 --file=/media/usbdisk/movie1.tar Movie.iso" look right to split dvd.iso into 2GB chunks?
[04:27] <WiglyWorm> There's 2.. depending on which command I try.
[04:27] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:28] <DaSkreech> shinigami: how you going?
[04:28] <dwidmann> jimmy_: I don't know, one way to find out
[04:28] <jimmy_> dwidman: tried it and got a file size limit
[04:28] <WiglyWorm> Just running the shell script that the installer made on my desktop gets me "an't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file"
[04:28] <WiglyWorm> Doing "/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin --ini=/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004.ini -nohomedir"
[04:29] <WiglyWorm> Gets me "/usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[04:29] <shinigami> hi
[04:29] <shinigami> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1917/ my new sources
[04:29] <shinigami> doing updates now
[04:30] <WiglyWorm> Of course, I can't even seem to figure out how to get FireFox to run, I'm not entirely sure why I think I should be able to get games to work as well. T_T
[04:30] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: what does the shell script on your desktop point to?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: I seem to recall they had something like this on teh UT forums though
[04:31] <steveire> Hi. I've just installed kde-core on an otherwise command line ubuntu system (doing a ground up install). The only issue I have is that thumbnails are not created in konqueror for pdf, ps, dvi files. Is there anything I can do to get that feature back? I have kpdf of course.
[04:31] <WiglyWorm> the shell script points to {ut2004_DATA_PATH}/ut2004-bin.
[04:31] <WiglyWorm> hmm I haven't found anything on the forums.. I suppose I can go check again.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> What does ut2004_DATA_PATH resolve to?
[04:33] <shinigami> ok another question..i have a laptop acer 5562.. after installing kubuntu, cat /proc/cpuinfo shows only one cpu (it is a dual core)
[04:33] <WiglyWorm> Um.. I imagine the long string I typed...
[04:33] <shinigami> the uname -r shows 2.6.15-27-386..i think i should get the smt version or something
[04:33] <DaSkreech> shinigami: You will have to change the sources.list
[04:33] <freshburn> dd the ut2004-bin into the dir with the ini file it wants to see
[04:33] <freshburn> ?
[04:34] <WiglyWorm> dd?
[04:34] <shinigami> change into what?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> shinigami: deb http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe should have the word multiverse at the end
[04:34] <lampar> shinigami: I have the same laptop, bu t
[04:34] <lampar> it's a 3690 series!
[04:34] <freshburn> copy it
[04:35] <regeya> ok, so, everytime I start up kde, there's a .kde/share/config/gtkrc-qtc written with a style "QtCMnuFix"
[04:35] <regeya> written every time, and when that's there, Firefox won't start.  What's doing that, and how do I prevent that?
[04:36] <regeya> Humorous answers of 'use konqueror' will be directed to the nearest Safari fanboy site
[04:37] <shinigami> lampar: urs is a duel core?
[04:37] <shinigami> DaSkreech: ok added multiverse.. updating
[04:37] <isaac_> WEEEEE
[04:37] <wolfwalker> I am HERE!!!
[04:37] <wolfwalker> Thanks to all who helped me
[04:37] <DaSkreech> !firefox
[04:37] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:37] <wolfwalker> For the record, firefox rocks my socks
[04:38] <regeya> DaSkreech: HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:38] <regeya> ok, I'll try that again...
[04:38] <regeya> ok, so, everytime I start up kde, there's a .kde/share/config/gtkrc-qtc written with a style "QtCMnuFix"
[04:38] <regeya> written every time, and when that's there, Firefox won't start.  What's doing that, and how do I prevent that?
[04:38] <phobiac> lol
[04:38] <shinigami> GREAT IT WORKED!!!!
[04:38] <shinigami> hee
[04:39] <shinigami> ok
[04:39] <DaSkreech> shinigami: mp3 works now?
[04:39] <shinigami> after changing back to dapper sources.list, i apt-get remove libxine-extracodes and install again
[04:39] <shinigami> it worked now
[04:39] <regeya> I love some of the answers I get when I google for it: "Why would you use Firefox anyway?"
[04:39] <jimmy_> so "tar -c -M /media/usbdisk/movie1.tar movie.iso" freaked out my console, and "tar -c -M --tape-length=2147483648 --file=/media/usbdisk/havoc1.tar Havoc.iso" doesn't work correctly. Any ideas on tar-ing a multi volume archive?
[04:39] <regeya> my answer: "If choice is bad, why aren't we talking about Windows?"
[04:40] <shinigami> thx
[04:40] <sampan> wolfwalker  glad you got it figured out! :)
[04:40] <phobiac> regeya: lol
[04:40] <wolfwalker> Okay, so how do I access these program repositories now that my Kubuntu komputer is konnected?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Sure
[04:40] <wolfwalker> I tried to open Adept,and it shut back down
[04:40] <katabatic> try again maybe
[04:40] <phobiac> regeya: Is there anything in your autostart folder that could be causing the problem?
[04:41] <katabatic> Adept should be it
[04:41] <shinigami> i using a laptop sony vaio now
[04:41] <shinigami> tail /var/log/messages show Jan 17 10:15:24 localhost kernel: [17180811.900000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness
[04:41] <wolfwalker> Great
[04:41] <wolfwalker> So where do I find Audacity?
[04:41] <regeya> nah, phobiac, the only thing there is ivman (long story, nevermind)
[04:42] <jimmy_> wolfwalker: sudo apt-get install audacity
[04:42] <wolfwalker> Adept finally came up, now it says it's never heard of Audacity
[04:42] <shinigami> and theres a screen poping out and disappear saying "adjusting lcd brightness"
[04:42] <wolfwalker> Where do I type that jimmy?
[04:42] <jimmy_> or try automatix
[04:42] <jimmy_> http://www.getautomatix.com
[04:42] <phobiac> We don't recommend automatix
[04:42] <lampar> what's automatix?
[04:42] <phobiac> !automatix
[04:42] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:42] <regeya> oh hay phobiac I just thought of it, and I think I'll just sob quietly now.  it's QtCurve causing that.  dang.
[04:43] <phobiac> regeya: Something I'll assume you need? :/
[04:43] <jimmy_> I personally use automatix all the time, but as they say, its not supported
[04:43] <phobiac> !worksforme
[04:43] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:43] <wolfwalker> lol
[04:43] <wolfwalker> True that
[04:43] <regeya> weird tho since thta works fine under xfce and gnome yet not under kde. :-/
[04:43] <wolfwalker> So where do I type that sudo apt-get stuff?
[04:44] <katabatic> Menu > System > Konsole
[04:44] <jimmy_> in the console, utilities->Konsole
[04:44] <phobiac> regeya: You could try asking in #KDE to see if other's have had the problem and know a fix
[04:44] <lampar> hey, which program could I use to mix audio, in real time, you understand? like a DJ ;)
[04:45] <regeya> phobiac: now tha tI realized what it is, I'm googling again...
[04:45] <phobiac> regeya: Alright
[04:45] <wolfwalker> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:45] <wolfwalker> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:45] <wolfwalker> That's what I got
[04:45] <phobiac> wolfwalker: Have adept running?
[04:45] <wolfwalker> Well that's what everyone told me to try first
[04:46] <phobiac> Or apt-get in a konsole running?
[04:46] <wolfwalker> And I just never took it down, I guess
[04:46] <jimmy_> ya, if adept is not running, you have some other problems that should probably be solved before installing audacity
[04:46] <wolfwalker> sigh
[04:46] <wolfwalker> Reading package lists... Done
[04:46] <wolfwalker> Building dependency tree
[04:46] <wolfwalker> Reading state information... Done
[04:46] <wolfwalker> E: Couldn't find package audacity
[04:46] <DaSkreech> !audacity
[04:46] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[04:46] <wolfwalker> So................. now what?
[04:46] <sampan> wolfwalker  you just need to enable the universe multiverse repositories
[04:46] <DaSkreech> wolfwalker: add universe
[04:47] <sampan> !repositories
[04:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:47] <wolfwalker> Okay, where?
[04:47] <jimmy_> phobia: does he have to enable universe repositories?
[04:47] <phobiac> wolfwalker: You repositories are enabled right?
[04:47] <wolfwalker> Where do I go and what do I input to enable universe multiverse repositories?
[04:48] <wolfwalker> I guess they aren't
[04:48] <jmichaelx> i have just been trying for the first time tonight to burn audio CDs with K3b, but each time i try, i wind up getting a write errorat about 1/2 to 3/4 the way through.... has anyone else experienced this? is there a way to fix this?
[04:48] <phobiac> wolfwalker: Close adept
[04:48] <wolfwalker> Been closed
[04:48] <phobiac> wolfwalker: open a konsole and type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:48] <wolfwalker> k3b has een working for me
[04:49] <phobiac> the sources.list file should open
[04:49] <wolfwalker> Okay.............. now what?
[04:49] <phobiac> Now uncomment anything begining with deb
[04:49] <wolfwalker> Now what?
[04:49] <phobiac> Then save the file
[04:50] <wolfwalker> In the Kate window that just popped up?
[04:50] <jmichaelx> hmmm..... maybe it is just my system. i can't imagine what would be wrong. everything works fine in windows.... and i have burned several ISO's using gnomebaker just fine, as well
[04:50] <phobiac> Yes
[04:50] <phobiac> Then do sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <wolfwalker> Uncomment?
[04:50] <phobiac> Yes, uncomment the lines begining with deb
[04:50] <wolfwalker> What is uncomment?
[04:50] <wolfwalker> Delete?
[04:50] <phobiac> No
[04:50] <phobiac> Remove the # from the beging
[04:50] <wolfwalker> Ahhh
[04:51] <phobiac> begining*
[04:51] <WiglyWorm> I don't suppose there's a 64bit version of YAHOO IM for linux... you know, so I can talk to my friends while I beat my head against brick walls here?
[04:51] <phobiac> Then save
[04:51] <phobiac> And do sudo apt-get update
[04:51] <phobiac> Then try to do sudo apt-get install audacity
[04:51] <jmichaelx> WiglyWorm: i would forget yahoo IM and use gaim or gyachi
[04:51] <WiglyWorm> That was going to be my next question. :)
[04:52] <phobiac> WiglyWorm: You're running kubuntu right?
[04:52] <jmichaelx> yeah... gaim and kopete are both good.... if you need audio and webcam, you will have to go for gyachi
[04:52] <WiglyWorm> Ah.. and that leads me back to this question...
[04:52] <phobiac> Darn, jmichaelx beat me to my kopete reccomendation
[04:53] <jmichaelx> sorry lol
[04:53] <phobiac> No prob :P
[04:53] <WiglyWorm> What am I supposed to download? "Fedora Core", "Red Hat", "Mandrake", etc...
[04:53] <jmichaelx> you have tp pay for red hat
[04:53] <wolfwalker> Okay, it says it's connecting to something or other
[04:53] <jmichaelx> to*
[04:54] <jmichaelx> WiglyWorm: i would recommend kubuntu or mandriva
[04:54] <wolfwalker> LAND O' GOSHEN!!!
[04:54] <WiglyWorm> well, I'm using Kubuntu, I'm not going to pay for red hat linux, I'm just not sure what version I'm supposed to be downloading
[04:54] <WiglyWorm> (version of GAIM, that is)
[04:54] <jmichaelx> ohhhh
[04:54] <wolfwalker> It's reading a whole bunch of stuff now
[04:54] <jmichaelx> WiglyWorm: you need to get the package from the rops
[04:54] <jmichaelx> repos*
[04:54] <DaSkreech> phobiac: don'y sudo graphical apps
[04:54] <wolfwalker> So how long should this take?
[04:55] <phobiac> DaSkreech: I never said to sudo a graphical app...
[04:55] <WiglyWorm> You guys are hurting my head.
[04:55] <jmichaelx> WiglyWorm: you need to enable all of your repositories, either with adept or with the command line, and just 'sudo apt-get install gaim'
[04:55] <freshburn> i had ALOT of problems when i uncommented the backport repos i wouldnt do it unless you have to
[04:56] <jmichaelx> well, do a 'sudo apt-get update' first
 wolfwalker: open a konsole and type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <freshburn> daskreech i agree use KDESU kate isntead
[04:56] <wolfwalker> I just did a sdo apt-get update
[04:56] <wolfwalker> Woof!
[04:56] <wolfwalker> How long will this take?
[04:56] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Ahh oops. I stand corrected. Old bad habit.
[04:56] <phobiac> I'll have to watch myself on that.
[04:56] <wolfwalker> I sit corrected.  I'm lazy
[04:57] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: what are you trying to do?
[04:57] <freshburn> phobiac kate is graphical
[04:57] <phobiac> wolfwalker: Depends on your internet connection, it shouldn't take too long.
[04:57] <jmichaelx> does gaim not come with a default kubuntu install?
[04:57] <phobiac> I know, that's kind of why I just admitted to being wrong.
[04:57] <WiglyWorm> Um.. I want GAIM or something so I can talk to my friends while I'm on linux
[04:57] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: No that's Ubuntu
[04:57] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[04:58] <freshburn> phobiac its ok, im set up so i can login as root so im bad too
[04:58] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Want to try kopete first? or you want Gaim?
[04:58] <freshburn> lol
[04:58] <jmichaelx> WiglyWorm: you already have kopete on your system, and you can get gaim from the repositories
[04:58] <jmichaelx> oops, sorry
[04:58] <wolfwalker> Ladies and gentlemen............. My computer is now installing Audacity
[04:58] <WiglyWorm> Kopete will allow me to talk to people on Yahoo?
[04:58] <wolfwalker> AAAAAAlelujah!
[04:58] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Yes
[04:58] <WiglyWorm> oh.. alright
[04:59] <forceflow_> who loves you baby.....
[04:59] <forceflow_> :)
[04:59] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: press Alt+Space
[04:59] <DaSkreech> type kop and press enter
[04:59] <phobiac> wolfwalker: The linux version is really ugly. At least the one I just installed is. :(
[04:59] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: After that if you have a problem let me know
[04:59] <DaSkreech> It should be easy after that
[04:59] <wolfwalker> Ugly is irrelevant
[04:59] <WiglyWorm> OMFG@alt+space
[04:59] <wolfwalker> Will it work?
[04:59] <phobiac> It should
[05:00] <wolfwalker> And will it SOUND good?
[05:00] <phobiac> Although I got some weird error about playing audio that I'm going to look into
[05:00] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Don't make me laugh that hard!
[05:00] <wolfwalker> That's what is relevant
[05:00] <phobiac> No idea
[05:00] <Mez> WiglyWorm, I see you discovered katapult ?
[05:00] <WiglyWorm> Seems so. :)
[05:00] <phobiac> Ahhh katapult, I love katapult
[05:00] <WiglyWorm> In case you guys haven't been able to tell yet...
[05:01] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: ty for that, i had never used katapult either lol
[05:01] <jmichaelx> lol
[05:01] <WiglyWorm> I just installed Linux for the first time ever yesterday.
[05:01] <Mez> Welcome to Linux WiglyWorm
[05:01] <jmichaelx> WiglyWorm: you will like it
[05:01] <WiglyWorm> So.. I'm honestly about the biggest newb ever.
[05:01] <DaSkreech> ^H^H^H^H^H Welcome to KDE :)
[05:01] <jmichaelx> i just started with linux about 8 months ago
[05:01] <sampan> everyone started there once wiglyworm
[05:02] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: have you opened Kopete?
[05:02] <WiglyWorm> Given that I'm a windows power user.. quite qualified to be tech support and all that... this has been rather humbling.
[05:03] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Hopefully you'll be a better windows admin by the time you are done
[05:03] <wolfwalker> Did someone recommend ardour as a good sound editor?
[05:03] <WiglyWorm> And yes, Kopete is up and running, and I'm logged in and talking. Thank you guys. ^_^
[05:03] <wolfwalker> Cause I can't find it
[05:03] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Good tiem for more fun
[05:03] <phobiac> DaSkreech: You mean he'll start recommending linux to those that ask for tech support?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Alt+Space -> 2^5
[05:03] <DaSkreech> phobiac: not necessarily
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Where it's needed yes
[05:04] <phobiac> It was a joke :P
[05:04] <DaSkreech> but Linux teaches you enough to figure out Windows problems that perplexed you before
[05:04] <WiglyWorm> I'm sorry, am I calculating, DaSkreech?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Which makes it a much better OS to run
[05:04] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Yup. On the fly. fastest calculator I know of
[05:04] <sampan> oh that's nice katapault feature ... very nice calculator!
[05:05] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Thank you. First person not to be humping KDE4
[05:05] <Mez> DaSkreech, you are indeed a katapult pimp
[05:05] <Mez> DaSkreech, now get him to play music
[05:05] <WiglyWorm> Also, as I'd like to be a network tech... I can't at all imagine it being a bad thing for me to have my feet wet with linux.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Oh sure
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Type the name of an artist
[05:06] <DaSkreech> (Assuming amarok is open)
[05:06] <freshburn> wow, i had "opened" katapult form the k menu before and it showed up on the screen and i wasnt sure what it was so i pushed ESC
[05:06] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: You will breathe unix/linux of you do networking
[05:06] <DaSkreech>  The internet IS linux
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Mez: Bettah have mah money!!!
[05:07] <WiglyWorm> Well, the vast swaths of it that aren't windows server 2003... so like.. what? 70-80 percent?
[05:07] <wolfwalker> Okay, while my komputer is online
[05:07] <freshburn> lol so will it allow any shell command?
[05:07] <wolfwalker> What programs should I shop around for?
[05:07] <dwidmann> daskreech, don't worry, I'll do that too soon ;)
[05:07] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Sure you want to try take down 80% of the internet? :)
[05:07] <Mez> freebsdfreak, not really, just anything in your K menu
[05:07] <Mez> theres a plugin that I've made that allows you to do that
[05:07] <Mez> but you'd need to compile it yourself to do that
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Mez wrong tab :0
[05:07] <WiglyWorm> If it means I don't have to learn linux? Possibly.
[05:08] <WiglyWorm> This is crazy, so far.
[05:08] <DaSkreech> wolfwalker: What are you into?
[05:08] <Mez> s/freebsdfreak/freshburn/
[05:08] <freshburn> daskreech yeah its called the blue screen of death lol
[05:08] <wolfwalker> MUSIC!!!
[05:08] <wolfwalker> Audio
[05:08] <wolfwalker> Burner, converter, editor, all of it
[05:08] <DaSkreech> wolfwalker: Making or listening?
[05:09] <wolfwalker> Tracker, dare I hope?
[05:09] <wolfwalker> Making, editing
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Hmm Audacity is good. Jack is also interesting
[05:09] <Mez> jack's a PITA :D
[05:09] <WiglyWorm> Speaking of music...
[05:09] <wolfwalker> Jack?
[05:09] <Mez> acudacity is a good app
[05:09] <Mez> but then - I like jokosher :D
[05:09] <wolfwalker> sudo apt-get install jack?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Mez: I said it was INTERESTING
[05:09] <wolfwalker> I got Audacity
[05:09] <wolfwalker> First on my list
[05:09] <WiglyWorm> Can Kubuntu read NTFS so I can open up all these MP3s on my windows partition?
[05:09] <freshburn> yup
[05:10] <Mez> WiglyWorm, read yes, write no
[05:10] <wolfwalker> And WHY can Linux not write to NTFS if it can read?
[05:10] <WiglyWorm> Rawk, how do I go about pointing it to other partitions?
[05:10] <homer> wolfwalker: it can write too
[05:10] <freshburn> i keep all my mp3s and divx in a fat32 for that reason..
[05:11] <freshburn> homer: reliably?
[05:11] <WiglyWorm> Oh, can it write to fat32 with no problems?
[05:11] <homer> freshburn: apperently so
[05:11] <freshburn> wiglyworm yes having a fat32 partition is a good in-between for dualbooting and the like
[05:11] <wolfwalker> So where do I get ardour?
[05:12] <freshburn> i prefer not to EVER mount my ntfs winxp drives just to be safe
[05:12] <homer> ntfs-3g
[05:12] <homer> you also gotta release ntfs is a super complex partition format
[05:12] <freshburn> the bad thing about doing that for me is dvd rips cannot be more than 4gig
[05:12] <homer> I believe the windows driver is like 1 million lines of code
[05:13] <homer> and microsoft doesn't even release specs for it
[05:13] <DaSkreech> wolfwalker: It can't write reliably
[05:13] <WiglyWorm> I have a NTFS partition that's on a seperate physical disk (the same one Linux is on), so... how do I point Linux at it?
[05:13] <homer> but yes ntfs-3g writes to NTFS, and is like half mill lines o code :o
[05:13] <Mez> !ardour
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Umm I think the easy way might be too complicated
[05:14] <DaSkreech> !drives
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <DaSkreech> damn :-(
[05:14] <phobiac> I found ardour in adpet but the package is gtk
[05:14] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Do you know ow Unix sees drives?
[05:14] <phobiac> Isn't gtk gnome?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> phobiac: No
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Gnome is gtk
[05:14] <WiglyWorm> Nope. I have no idea.
[05:14] <phobiac> That's what I thought
[05:15] <dwidmann> it's kind of like how kde is not qt, but it heavily uses qt ... gnome has the same sort of relationship with gtk
[05:15] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Want a tutorial?
[05:15] <homer> i think kubuntu come with gtk
[05:15] <phobiac> Will gtk based apps run okay in KDE?
[05:15] <homer> yes
[05:15] <phobiac> Okay
[05:15] <dwidmann> phobiac:  yes
[05:15] <phobiac> wolfwalker: Check adept for ardour
[05:15] <wolfwalker> Found it!
[05:15] <Mez> phobiac, yes they will - now we fixed qt-engines-gtk ;)
[05:16] <wolfwalker> !ardour-gtk
[05:16] <ubotu> ardour-gtk: digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-2build1 (edgy), package size 2188 kB, installed size 5992 kB
[05:16] <WiglyWorm> Skreech: yes, please.
[05:16] <yonkeltron> is there an easy way to convert adobe 7 eps to svg?
[05:17] <soulrider> DaSkreech: i would be interested in a tutorial too
[05:17] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: alright how are drives handled in Windows?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> hi soulrider :)
[05:17] <soulrider> hi DaSkreech :P
[05:17] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: including partitons?
[05:18] <soulrider> DaSkreech: id like to hear the complete sotry if you dont mind :P
[05:18] <wolfwalker> Okay, any other audio programs I should get?
[05:18] <WiglyWorm> What do you mean by "handled"? Using master/slave disks, system partitions, etc.?
[05:18] <wolfwalker> Got Audacity, k3b, sound-konverter, ardour
[05:19] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: No that's hardware that never changes
[05:19] <DaSkreech> You have a drive how does it show up in windows?
[05:19] <WiglyWorm> Well, partitions not so much, but alright.
[05:19] <dwidmann> wolfwalker, how about vorbis-tools?
[05:19] <DaSkreech> They come up as letters right?
[05:19] <WiglyWorm> Okay, yes.
[05:20] <dwidmann> comes with ogg123 ... useful if your gui decides to die
[05:20] <WiglyWorm> I didn't know you were going so basic on me. :)
[05:20] <WiglyWorm> Yes, they are displayed as letters. ^_^
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Right and the letters all come under My Computer?
[05:20] <WiglyWorm> Mmm hmmm.
[05:21] <DaSkreech> ok Under UNIX that's not how things are done
[05:21] <DaSkreech>  there is one "super folder" called /
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Under / everythign exists
[05:22] <DaSkreech> It's called teh FHS
[05:22] <DaSkreech> !fhs
[05:22] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:22] <wolfwalker> vorbis-tools?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> You can read it up in your spare time :)
[05:22] <phobiac> In the begining, there was nothing. And then we said, let there be /! And there was.
[05:22] <phobiac> Sorry, couldn't resist.
[05:22] <WiglyWorm> I suppose that explains why nothing ever works in the console when I forget the preceding "/"
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Directly under / all the folders have a purpose
[05:22] <WiglyWorm> That always irked me, but it makes sense now. ^_^
[05:22] <WiglyWorm> Sorry, go on. :)
[05:23] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: That's absolute and relative :) I can explain those after :)
[05:23] <Tox> how to organise my programs list is there any program that to sort it ?
[05:23] <DaSkreech> under / there is a folder called dev (or devices) which holds all things which exist in the real world that is not a human
[05:24] <phobiac> tox: click on whatever you want to organize that's a menu and choose menu editor
[05:24] <DaSkreech> your soundcard,MP3 player, processor, hard drives etc
[05:24] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: IDE drives or SATA?
[05:24] <Tox> i mean there are a lot of programs and i need a program to categorise it or something like that
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Tox: They aren't categorised now?
[05:25] <phobiac> They should already be sorted
[05:25] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Making sense so far?
[05:25] <Tox> that sorting is very bad
[05:25] <wolfwalker> What is gimp?
[05:25] <phobiac> !gimp
[05:25] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:25] <WiglyWorm> My disks are IDE.
[05:26] <WiglyWorm> EIDE, if you want to get technical. :P
[05:26] <phobiac> Tox: Then use menu editor to resort them
[05:26] <Tox> ok ill try ..
[05:26] <wolfwalker> Good night y'all
[05:26] <wolfwalker> Thanks for all the help
[05:26] <phobiac> Goodnight
[05:26] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: alright if you look under the /dev folder you will see some files named hd<something something>
[05:27] <DaSkreech> wolfwalker: night
[05:27] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: easiest way is in the Konsole
[05:27] <sampan> goodnight wolfwalker
[05:27] <DaSkreech> type ls /dev/hd<tabtab>
[05:27] <DaSkreech> it will auto complete the names for you
[05:27] <WiglyWorm> what does "ls" do?
[05:28] <WiglyWorm> I would kill you all for a list of console commands and what they do.
[05:28] <dwidmann> list
[05:28] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: It lists the contents of a folder
[05:28] <HymnToLife> !command | WiglyWorm
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <wolfwalker> It didn't shut down :/
[05:28] <HymnToLife> !commands | WiglyWorm
[05:28] <ubotu> WiglyWorm: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:28] <dwidmann> WiglyWorm: I wouldn't recommend that, I don't respond well to violence o.O
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Well done HymnToLife :)
[05:28] <WiglyWorm> rawk. Ty Hym.
[05:29] <WiglyWorm> Hymn, too
[05:29] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Put that in your reading pile as well :
[05:29] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: You get a listing of hd files?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> hda1 etc ?
[05:29] <dwidmann> man: the most important command you'll ever learn ;)
[05:29] <WiglyWorm> aye, I did.
[05:30] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: aman!
[05:30] <DaSkreech> I mean amen :)
[05:30] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Ok here is how you read them
[05:30] <DaSkreech> HD == IDE device
[05:30] <DaSkreech> hda is the first IDE device on the first IDE chain
[05:30] <DaSkreech> hdb is the second
[05:30] <DaSkreech> lo Jucato
[05:31] <DaSkreech> hdc is the third etc
[05:31] <Mez> lo Jucato
[05:31] <DaSkreech> hda1 is the first partition on the first drive
[05:31] <DaSkreech> hda2 the second partion
[05:31] <WiglyWorm> Okay... corrosponding to (for EIDE) Primary Master, Primary Slave, Secondary Master, Secondary slave?
[05:31] <WiglyWorm> for a, b, c, d?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: right
[05:32] <HymnToLife> DaSkreech, unless the drive is SATA/SCSI, in which case it's /dev/sda1
[05:32] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: One important thing is that the FIRST secondary partion is always 5
[05:32] <DaSkreech> so hda5
[05:32] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[05:32] <Jucato> hi Mez!! :)
[05:32] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: I was getting to that :)
[05:32] <HymnToLife> or it is plugged on the sec IDE controller, in which case it's /dev/hdc1 ;)
[05:32] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: The second secondary partiotn is 6 (hda6)
[05:33] <DaSkreech> so to recap what would the 3 primary partion on the master device on the secondary channel be called?
[05:33] <soulrider> DaSkreech: whats the diference between a primary partition, a seconady and an extended and logic ?
[05:33] <Jucato> Mez: how's the Katapult site? it is back up?
[05:33] <Jucato> soulrider: there is no secondary partition
[05:34] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Do you mean what's the secondary == extended/logical
[05:34] <soulrider> DaSkreech: just mentioned something like that, didnt he ?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> I'm just a nitwit :)
[05:34] <Jucato> an extended partition is a primary partition this is capable of holding a number of logical partitions
[05:34] <soulrider> i just put partitions, dont really know the differences :P
[05:34] <HymnToLife> soulrider, a primary partition is needed by some old software to boot
[05:34] <soulrider> like windows right?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Jucato: we need an updated !mount btw
[05:35] <soulrider> i think it needs that
[05:35] <HymnToLife> and an extended partition is a partition that can contain others
[05:35] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Lots of OSes need it
[05:35] <soulrider> whats the point of having an extended?
[05:35] <HymnToLife> useful because you can only have 4 primary partitions / drive
[05:35] <HymnToLife> or three primary + one extended
[05:35] <soulrider> oh
[05:35] <soulrider> that sucks ass
[05:35] <HymnToLife> so if you want, say, ten partitions
[05:35] <DaSkreech> yeah but what you going to do
[05:35] <HymnToLife> you'll have to make an extended
[05:35] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ??
[05:35] <Dr_willis> extended contains 'logical' partitions. :)
[05:35] <DaSkreech> !mount
[05:35] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:35] <soulrider> and ten inside
[05:36] <HymnToLife> or three primaries + one extended containing seven logicals
[05:37] <DaSkreech> soulrider: So if you plan on having more than two partions make one of them extended with logical partions
[05:37] <soulrider> i have 4 actually
[05:37] <soulrider> and none are extended :P
[05:37] <Jucato> you can have any combination of primary+extended partitions.. but the total must always be 4. then you can split up an extended partition in as many ways as you want
[05:37] <HymnToLife> soulrider, not wise thing
[05:37] <HymnToLife> because of you want to add one, you're toast
[05:37] <soulrider> =/
[05:38] <soulrider> i need to croll up and re read something for a sec
[05:38] <Jucato> go on... that's what scrolling up is for :P
[05:38] <DaSkreech> sure
[05:38] <WiglyWorm> What? I'm sorry? I got lost in all the chatter.
[05:39] <soulrider> DaSkreech: i get confused with the secondary partitioon part
[05:39] <dwidmann> Speaking of partitioning, does anyone in here by chance know how to setup LVM? I've been meaning to do so but I'm hitting roadblocks
[05:39] <soulrider> because
[05:39] <soulrider> i have 4 partitions, and they are sda1, sda2, sda3 and sda4
[05:39] <Jucato> soulrider: there is no "secondary partition".. there are only primary and extended partitions, then an extended partition can be split into logical partitions
[05:39] <WiglyWorm> I kind of zoned out when it became a philisophical debate about partitioning...
[05:39] <Jucato> WiglyWorm: it's more technical than philosophical :P
[05:39] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: so to recap what would the 3 primary partion on the master device on the secondary channel be called?
[05:39] <soulrider> and the logicals are secondary ?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Yes
[05:40] <HymnToLife> soulrider, forget the "secondary", the logicals ate logicals, period
[05:40] <soulrider> well, logicals inside extended that is right ?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> soulrider: right
[05:40] <HymnToLife> yep
[05:40] <soulrider> ahhh
[05:40] <soulrider> i understand now
[05:40] <soulrider> that makes sense
[05:40] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: My fault. Engaged fingers before brain
[05:40] <soulrider> just by knowing that, lots of things i didnt understand i understand now
[05:41] <soulrider> and no wi understand why my second hard drive has such weird numbers :P
[05:41] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Yeah useful info :)
[05:41] <HymnToLife> soulrider, which ones ?
[05:41] <WiglyWorm> Depends on the number of partitions on the drives, because if I'm reading you correctly, secondary partitions would become 5 and 6 on the pri master and pri slave, so the one in your question is um... likely to be 3?
[05:41] <DaSkreech> 1 2 5 6  I'm betting
[05:41] <WiglyWorm> Err.. or maybe hdc2?
[05:41] <HymnToLife> how is that weird ?
[05:41] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: hdc3
[05:42] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: cause he didn't know about logical partions before
[05:42] <WiglyWorm> where did hdc2 go?
[05:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you and your secondary partitions... :P
[05:42] <soulrider> well on my other drive i got hdb5, it makes sense that i dont have 1 or 2 or.....
[05:42] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: I didn't ask about hdc2 :)
[05:42] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: the 3rd primary partion is going to be 3 all the time
[05:42] <HymnToLife> yippee, just finished compiling GIMP on my FBSD :p
[05:42] <WiglyWorm> Hmmmm
[05:42] <HymnToLife> hmm
[05:42] <WiglyWorm> Why?
[05:43] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | HymnToLife
[05:43] <ubotu> HymnToLife: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:43] <DaSkreech> cause it's 3rd
[05:43] <soulrider> i was gona sign up for a linux course, but i totally forgot and it started already
[05:43] <nik_> so i just found out that i have to use the HSF linuxant drivers that require $$ for full speed
[05:43] <WiglyWorm> Oh wait...
[05:43] <WiglyWorm> Okay..
[05:43] <soulrider> DaSkreech: pictures help me a lot
[05:43] <WiglyWorm> I was going to ask a question, but realized I just anwered it for myself.
[05:43] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: ok question two :)
[05:43] <soulrider> great!
[05:43] <WiglyWorm> The first extended takes 5, so the second takes 2, and the third takes 3, right?
[05:44] <nik_> my question is what do i search for on emule to get em the other way? j/k (kinda)
[05:44] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: What would the 3rd logical partion on the slave for the master channel be?
[05:44] <soulrider> nik_: the name? :P
[05:44] <WiglyWorm> Master channel = primary HD controller?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: yup
[05:45] <nik_> soulrider i guess what i meant is do warez/cracks/keygen exist for it?
[05:45] <WiglyWorm> That's hdb3?
[05:45] <nik_> no that i support pir8 software
[05:45] <nik_> not that
[05:45] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Hmm ok let me go over the primamry and logical partions again
[05:45] <HymnToLife> WiglyWorm, nope, it should be hda*
[05:45] <WiglyWorm> Gah what?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: Nope hdb is right
[05:46] <WiglyWorm> Slave drive = hrb?
[05:46] <WiglyWorm> Okay, good.
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Right
[05:46] <HymnToLife> hdb is the pri slave
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Right
[05:46] <WiglyWorm> That's what he asked.
[05:46] <HymnToLife> but what the heck with the number ?
[05:46] <WiglyWorm> And I guess the partitions are about where I blanked out.
[05:46] <HymnToLife> you can have it called hdb564 if you want
[05:46] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: you know the differnce between primary and logical partions right?
[05:46] <WiglyWorm> yes.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> ok hda1-4 is primary
[05:47] <HymnToLife> hmm, not that high maybe but relly the number is not important
[05:47] <DaSkreech> the first logical has to be 5
[05:47] <WiglyWorm> Ohhhhh okay.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> the second has to be 6
[05:47] <DaSkreech> etc
[05:47] <WiglyWorm> Right.
[05:47] <HymnToLife> DaSkreech, not necessarily
[05:47] <Dr_willis> hda1-4 could be 'extended' the first logical In an extended would be 5 and up.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: By default :-P and order makes life good
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: An extended is just a priamry with a single purpose
[05:48] <DaSkreech> still a primary
[05:48] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: so what's the answer to the second question I asked before?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> but i do belive most of the disk partitiong tools dont call them that way.
[05:49] <WiglyWorm> The question was the second logical on the primary slave, yeah?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> ive tryed to mount hda4 when i ment hda5 way tooo many times.. :)
[05:49] <WiglyWorm> That'd be hdb6...
[05:49] <HymnToLife> ow, the source for Firefox 2.0.0.1 is 35 MB
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Yay! :)
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Alright
[05:49] <WiglyWorm> Okay.
[05:50] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm, soulrider: moving forward?
[05:50] <soulrider> sure
[05:50] <WiglyWorm> I'm down/.
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Alright. to get the info from the device into the / system you have to mount it
[05:50] <soulrider> im gonna make a sandwich though so make long sentences so i dont have to scroll up... plix =d
[05:51] <DaSkreech> You can only mount it under / but you can do mount a device to any folder under / (or subfolder) that you want to
[05:51] <DaSkreech> so if you make some folder then type sudo mount /dev/hd<devicedetails> </path/to/folder>
[05:52] <DaSkreech> You can ls the folder and see what is on the partition/drive :)
[05:52] <HymnToLife> all right, going to bed, I'll let the damned FF thingie compile by itself
[05:52] <HymnToLife> 'night guys
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Night
[05:52] <JAAmon> CENTRAL RINGER
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Hi Morbo
[05:53] <Morbo> Hello :)
[05:54] <nik_> !FF
[05:54] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:54] <nik_> lol
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Morbo: Where did you get the name from?
[05:54] <nik_> actualy lmfao i knew that
[05:54] <Morbo> Futurama, DaSkreech
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nik_: Toss in a S and see what it does
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Kittens DO give Morbo gas!
[05:54] <nik_> ?!FFS
[05:54] <nik_> !FFS
[05:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:54] <nik_> lol
[05:55] <nik_> i meant final fantasy seven, really......
[05:55] <nik_> so does anyone use the HSF linuxant drivers?
[05:56] <nik_> or how bout win4linpro
[05:56] <DaSkreech> nik_: #ubuntu would probably get faster responses
[05:56] <HymnToLife> nik_, build yourself a nice hardware modem, it would be cheaper than the Linuxant drivers anyway :p
[05:56] <nik_> how much are they?
[05:57] <nik_> i didnt even bother to look at the price
[05:57] <HymnToLife> about 20 bucks IIRC
[05:57] <nik_> lol
[05:57] <nik_> im such a cheap bastard id rather pir8 them
[05:57] <nik_> or hack thier server and d/l them and put em on rapidshare
[05:58] <nik_> lol
[05:58] <nik_> i wish i knew about linux when i bought this dang laptop
[05:58] <nik_> at least i got my wireless to work, so i connect my xp puter and then use net wireless on my laptop
[05:59] <nik_> and hotspots for big d/ls
[05:59] <WiglyWorm> Skreech, so conceptually here.. if I want to look at any device other than the drive that Linux is natively installed on, I have to mount it?
[05:59] <nik_> well, im outa here, yes wiglyworm
[05:59] <nik_> l8tr all
[05:59] <soulrider> yes WiglyWorm
[05:59] <WiglyWorm> right...
[05:59] <HymnToLife> WiglyWorm, no, but if you want to access the files on it, yes
[05:59] <WiglyWorm> Okay.
[06:00] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: You can set it to auto mount on boot
[06:00] <HymnToLife> you can have it mounter automagically at boot time though
[06:00] <DaSkreech> But before then it doesn't know where to go
[06:00] <HymnToLife> mounted*
[06:00] <WiglyWorm> I see.
[06:00] <nik_> hymntolife so he can set the usb stick on his table and "look" at it all he wants eh?
[06:01] <HymnToLife> exactly :p
[06:01] <HymnToLife> usb sticks sure look nice nowadays
[06:01] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Want to see your stuff quick now?
[06:01] <nik_> lol
[06:01] <nik_> hasta minana
[06:02] <WiglyWorm> Yes, yes I would, in fact.
[06:03] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Still in konsole?
[06:03] <WiglyWorm> aye
[06:03] <DaSkreech> type pwd
[06:03] <DaSkreech> where are you ?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> pwd = print working directory
[06:03] <soulrider> jaja
[06:03] <WiglyWorm> I'm in my /home/chris/
[06:03] <soulrider> oops, wrong window
[06:04] <robnyc> how do I add music to my ipod using amarok ?
[06:04] <HymnToLife> !ipod | robnyc
[06:04] <ubotu> robnyc: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:04] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: alright make a direcoty
[06:04] <DaSkreech>  mkdir <dirname>
[06:04] <robnyc> ty hybrid
[06:04] <robnyc> HymnToLife, *
[06:04] <DaSkreech> then sudo mount /dev/hd<ntfsdrive> <dirname>
[06:05] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Let me know when you are done with that
[06:05] <WiglyWorm> full path for <dirname>?
[06:05] <WiglyWorm> or just relative to my working directory?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: Nope
[06:05] <DaSkreech> It's relative
[06:06] <WiglyWorm> k
[06:06] <DaSkreech>  if it doesn't have a / then it's relative to where you are
[06:08] <WiglyWorm> I'm sorry, is that "/dev/hd/hdb1" or just /dev/hdb1?
[06:08] <Morbo> /dev/hdb1
[06:09] <phobiac> Night
[06:09] <notech> WiglyWorm:  hdb is primary slave and the 1 means the first partition
[06:10] <WiglyWorm> Man... I really wish the console gave feedback to your commands....
[06:10] <WiglyWorm> But I suppose since I got nothing, I'm good to go?
[06:10] <notech> yes
[06:10] <notech> noo feedback is a good thing, means no error
[06:10] <WiglyWorm> heh... not enough permission ftw.
[06:11] <Morbo> WiglyWorm- did you remember the sudo ?
[06:11] <WiglyWorm> I love how secure linux is... it won't let even the only user of the computer do a thing without retyping the password a bajillion times.
[06:11] <WiglyWorm> Yeah, I mounted it, I tried to look at it in Konquerer. :)
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Did you get it?
[06:12] <WiglyWorm> No, it said I didn't have permission. :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> excellent :)
[06:12] <robnyc> im having problems with amarok + ipod
[06:12] <robnyc> it wont read it
[06:12] <DaSkreech> alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror /home/chris
[06:14] <WiglyWorm> a) what does kdesu do? b) how come it used to look like a drive but now looks like a folder with nothing in it?
[06:14] <Jucato> !kdesu
[06:14] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:14] <Dr_willis> eitehr its not mounted, or you dont have permissions to acces it.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> I think it is mounted
[06:15] <Dr_willis> check it out with the shell
[06:15] <dennister> hi pps :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> sudo mount  -----> should show whats mounted where
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: actually just mount should show that as well
[06:15] <Dr_willis> actually just 'mount' may work. :)
[06:15] <DaSkreech> I just said that!!
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:15] <DaSkreech> :-P
[06:15] <Dr_willis> no ya dident.. you echoed me
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <DaSkreech> echo -n
[06:16] <WiglyWorm> all it has in it is a folder called "System Volume Information"... maybe I targeted the wrong partition...
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Maybe
[06:17] <dennister> OpenOffice question: it's help says versioning of a document is to be found under File--->Versions, yet I can't see any "Versions" under the File menu...what gives?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: sudo umount <dirname>
[06:17] <WiglyWorm> command not found.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <shinigami> Hi DaSkreech.. i realise that i cannot play mp3 from amarok while i play videos from mplayer.. is there a fix for this?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> playing a song while watching a movie....
[06:18] <DaSkreech> shinigami: Umm You want to make your own soundtrack to movies? :)
[06:18] <shinigami> haha
[06:18] <shinigami> nono ok actually i'm a media analyst
[06:18] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: not uNmount just umount
[06:18] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  perhaps hes playing that PinkFloyd album whikle watching the wizard of oz.
[06:18] <WiglyWorm> Oh well... my brain is beginning to smell a bit like an electrical fire.... I think it's best I take a break from this for the night, come at it tomorrow.
[06:18] <shinigami> at work i need to do media analyst ..but when i play mp3 at the same time..u know..i think it clash
[06:18] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: possibly the worst named command in Unix
[06:18] <shinigami> i tried..like using wine to run warcraft..amarok also doesn't work
[06:19] <DaSkreech> though some might argue for finger....
[06:19] <shinigami> think ther'es a conflict with the alsa/oss?
[06:19] <Jucato> oooh an angel of death appears...
[06:19] <DaSkreech> most likely
[06:19] <shinigami> haha..yea death god
[06:19] <Jucato> !mp3 | shinigami
[06:19] <ubotu> shinigami: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:19] <shinigami> watched deathnote?
[06:19] <Jucato> nope :P
[06:19] <WiglyWorm> Okay guys... have a good nigt. You'll be seeing alot more of me, I'm sure.
[06:19] <WiglyWorm> And putting up with my newbie antics as well, I'm sure.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> It pays to have a nice sound card to do what you are wanting to do shinigami
[06:20] <DaSkreech> WiglyWorm: night
[06:21] <shinigami> what does nice sound card have to do with multi tasking the programs that uses my soundcard?
[06:21] <dwidmann> exactly.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> lets put it this way - i have a creative audigy card.. and i have NO problems doing what you are wanting to do.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> hardware mixing vs software mixing.
[06:22] <dwidmann> hardware mixing > software mixing
[06:22] <Dr_willis> i see constantly people in here wanting to play more then 1 audio source/stream at a time with lowend/builtin cards.. and they have huge hassles with it.
[06:22] <shinigami> k i'm not doing mixing..err i'm just.. you know.. playing a game that uses my sound card..and in background playing a mp3 too
[06:23] <shinigami> windows can do that
[06:23] <dwidmann> Doc, I've got a builtin and have no problems with it :) ... granted, it's very, very nice for builtin
[06:23] <Dr_willis> shinigami,  if every program uses ALSA properly - then the linux apps should be able to do it also.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> but often its oss vs alsa  or some sound server fighting with some other sound server thats the issue as well.
[06:24] <dwidmann> A unified method of implementing sound would be nice ....
[06:24] <Dr_willis> sound issues used to be a lot worse then they are now. :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  yep. alsa is slowly  getting there.
[06:24] <dwidmann> tell me about it
[06:25] <dwidmann> even just a couple years ago sound was in ugly shape
[06:25] <Dr_willis> 'sound blaster comaptiable' :)
[06:25] <shinigami> does it applies to nas? my mplayer is streaming video from server..audio using nas.. amarok i guess its autodetecting..i'll try to force it to use alsa
[06:26] <Dr_willis> its best to set everything   up to use alsa
[06:26] <Dr_willis> if you can.
[06:26] <dwidmann> to force mplayer to use alsa, use the "-ao alsa" switch
[06:26] <Dr_willis> yea mplayer may be the one causing the problems
[06:27] <shinigami> yeah..sigh..but the application in my company forces it to use -ao nas.. need to edit the scripts to do that..troublesomee........
[06:28] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive ever used 'nas' for audio.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> so cant tell ya anything about it
[06:28] <shinigami> what's the command to see what programs are using my devices?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> lsof - perhaps
[06:28] <dwidmann> fuser perhaps?
[06:30] <dwidmann> doc, you wouldn't happen to know anything about lvm would you?
[06:31] <shinigami> fuser /dev/audio ?
[06:31] <dwidmann> shinigami, I suppose so
[06:33] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  i know enough to avoide it. :) for my minimal needs.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:34] <dwidmann> my needs are somewhat minimal as well, I just like to experiment. A lot.
[06:34] <shinigami> why do i keep getting localhost kernel: [17192683.784000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness in my /var/log/messages on my sony vaio laptop? and sometimes the "Adjusting brightness" screen pop out for 1-2 sec and disappear
[06:34] <shinigami> new installation of kubuntu
[06:34] <dwidmann> The idea of having one partition across two of my disks just sounds too appealing to pass up.
[06:35] <dwidmann> shinigami, the acpi on your ?laptop? is probably buggy?
[06:38] <shinigami> what should i do?
[06:39] <Jucato> summon the 4 gods...
[06:42] <dwidmann> shinigami, you should most definitely complain to the manufacturer, though it probably won't do you any good.
[06:42] <Jucato> :O
[06:42] <Mez> :P
[06:42] <Jucato> lol
[06:43] <Jucato> gr...
[06:43] <dwidmann> hahahaha
[06:43] <shinigami> haha
[06:44] <shinigami> i have two of this sony vaios laptop..both same problem after installing kubuntu.. i was thinking any drivers would help?
[06:44] <shinigami> but i not sure what kind of drivers i should get
[06:44] <dwidmann> shinigami, I wouldn't count on it
[06:46] <shinigami> here's another question.. can i choose my kernal during installation of kubuntu? i need it to support duel-core cpu...
[06:46] <Jucato> umm nope...
[06:46] <Jucato> but the generic kernel supports that too afaik
[06:46] <juano__> shinigami: you would need x86_64 cds
[06:46] <Dr_willis> with new laptops - often theres lots of little 'bugs' with the kernel/apci/other features  and their bios's
[06:46] <Jucato> !generic | shinigami
[06:46] <ubotu> shinigami: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[06:47] <Jucato> oh.. heh didn't know about the x86_64 cds...
[06:47] <shinigami> how do i reconfigure my kernal then? i need the source for my kernal to make menuconfig>?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Night all!
[06:47] <dwidmann> night DaSkreech
[06:47] <shinigami> 64 means..dual core?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> 64 dosent mean dual core. it means 64bit cpu. :)
[06:48] <avalon_> I'm having a problem with drive encryption. I want to encrypt two hard drives that I have already chock full of data. All the information I find needs the data to be formatted. Is there a compression system that doesn't need to format my drives?
[06:48] <shinigami> hmm but is dual core a 64bit?
[06:48] <shinigami> i think its 32
[06:51] <shinigami> ok..just tell me what kernal should i change into for a dual core? 686-smp ? 386? *confused*
[06:52] <dwidmann> shinigami, are you using dapper or edgy?
[06:52] <Jucato> hm.. didn't get an answer to my last question... is SMP dual core?
[06:52] <dwidmann> smp = symetric multi-processing, or something like that
[06:53] <Morbo> SMP = multicore
[06:53] <Morbo> or multiproc
[06:53] <Jucato> ah.. because I think the -generic kernel has support for that...
[06:53] <dwidmann> It does
[06:53] <Jucato>  2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:53] <Morbo> Yeah
[06:54] <dwidmann> if you're using dapper, you want something like 686-smp or k7-smp, if you're using edgy you want the -generic
[06:55] <shahid> anyone here?
[06:57] <shinigami> ok i'm using dapper
[06:57] <mefisto__> I just lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted. On reboot, it told me to do fsck. fsck fixed a lot of things. After that, I rebooted again, but cannot logon. X seems to restart and takes me back to the login screen. What can I do?
[06:57] <shinigami> so i get 686-smp ? i have to download the kernal and recompile the kernel? (i hate doing this step)
[06:58] <dwidmann> shinigami, just install the "linux-686" package
[06:58] <shahid> i'd
[06:58] <shahid> woops
[06:58] <shahid> sorry
[06:59] <dwidmann> or maybe th e linux-686-smp pacakge
[06:59] <dwidmann> when I was on dapper I used 64-bit ... and fortunately all of the 64-bit kernels had smp support :)
[07:01] <shinigami> does that mean i don't need to recompile my kernal? hehe
[07:01] <dwidmann> shinigami, no. Installing that package is all you need to do.
[07:01] <shinigami> so its just as easy as apt-get install linux-686-smp ?
[07:01] <dwidmann> yep.
[07:02] <shinigami> ok i'll try this at home..when i get a hold with the laptop
[07:02] <dwidmann> then reboot and it should be an option.
[07:02] <shinigami> wait..option?
[07:02] <shinigami> i cat /proc/cpuinfo or top i should be acble to see 2 cpus rite?
[07:02] <dwidmann> indeed.
[07:03] <mefisto__> I just lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted. On reboot, it told me to do fsck. fsck fixed a lot of things. After that, I rebooted again, but cannot logon. X seems to restart and takes me back to the login screen. What can I do?
[07:04] <shinigami> oh..when u say option i thought i have to do some other steps after installing the package
[07:04] <mefisto__> can someone help me solve my logon problem?
[07:04] <dwidmann> No, it'll just be added to your grub's menu.lst, shinigami
[07:04] <dwidmann> mefiesto__: more than likely
[07:05] <mefisto__> WILL someone help me solve my logon problem?
[07:06] <dwidmann> Why not state the problem, rather than asking that?
[07:06] <mefisto__> dwidmann: I did
[07:07] <dwidmann> you did?
[07:07] <mefisto__> I just lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted. On reboot, it told me to do fsck. fsck fixed a lot of things. After that, I rebooted again, but cannot logon. X seems to restart and takes me back to the login screen. What can I do?
[07:07] <dwidmann> oh, there it is, all the way up there
[07:07] <dwidmann> mefiesto: do a console login from kdm, log in, then run the command "startx"
[07:08] <dwidmann> it will probably give an error message of some sort.
[07:09] <mefisto__> I did that, but it won't work, just keeps coming back to the login screen.
[07:09] <dwidmann> it won't let you do a console login?
[07:10] <mefisto__> no, after startx, it goes to kubuntu login screen
[07:11] <dwidmann> okay, mefiesto, I've got an idea, press "ctrl + alt + f1" to get to the terminal, log in, type "sudo killall kdm", then do "startx", it won't have a login screen to fall back to
[07:12] <xenophile7x7> does anyone know a good games package, like the one in gnome, for KDE?
[07:12] <shinigami> [14:04]  <dwidmann> No, it'll just be added to your grub's menu.lst, shinigami <-- does that means its installing a new kernal?
[07:12] <mefisto__> dwidmann: and this is just to get the error messages, or will this hopefully successfully log me in?
[07:13] <shinigami> instead of reconfiguring the current one?
[07:13] <dwidmann> mefiesto: just to get error messages
[07:13] <dwidmann> shinigami: installing the package is to install a new kernel
[07:34] <mefisto__> who was it that was helping me with my login problem?
[07:37] <mefisto__> dwidmann: was it you who was trying to help me?
[07:39] <mefisto__> dwidmann: are you still around?
[07:40] <regeya> gah.  apparently my "problem" with firefox and qtcurve was fixed in a later release.  that's what I get for installing software from source then slacking on updating. :->
[07:41] <mefisto__> I cannot log in. after login, screen goes blank and takes me back to the login screen
[07:42] <mortici> whats a good p2p app?
[07:42] <mefisto__> mortici: ktorrent is pretty good
[07:43] <mefisto__> mortici: amule (if you've used emule/edonkey)
[07:43] <mortici> :/ never had much luck with those apps, the emule
[07:44] <mefisto__> mortici: try ktorrent, is should already be installed
[07:46] <mefisto__> Can someone help with this: I cannot log in. after login, screen goes blank and takes me back to the login screen
[07:46] <jordo23> Jucato: Hey.....how's it going?
[07:47] <noiesmo> mefisto__, did you do an upgrade and  then the problem occured?
[07:48] <mefisto__> noiesmo: no, I somehow lost access to hard disk (konq said disk was read-only) so I rebooted.
[07:48] <mefisto__> then the boot process said I should do fsck. After that I rebooted again, an couldn't log in
[07:48] <noiesmo> mefisto__, O check how much disk space is left
[07:49] <noiesmo> mefisto__, go to recovery console to check
[07:49] <mefisto__> noiesmo: how do I check. what command?
[07:49] <noiesmo> df -h
[07:49] <noiesmo> mefisto__, ^^
[07:50] <mefisto__> noiesmo: and temp files are in /tmp right?
[07:50] <noiesmo> mefisto__, I would expect so - apt holds files in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:52] <dwidmann> mefisto, so, what were your results, did startx get you any errors?
[07:52] <noiesmo> mefisto__, the other option you have is to boot livecd and then do the fsck on the drive while not mounted
[07:53] <mefisto__> dwidmann: I got a long list scroll by, then went blank, then back to console.
[07:53] <noiesmo> mefisto__, did ou still have drive space
[07:54] <addyk> Hello every... body :D
[07:54] <mefisto__> I'll try to clear some space on disk. Hopefully that will solve my problem (cause that would be simple :P)
[07:54] <dwidmann> mefisto, what video driver do you use? I do know there was an xorg update recently which would break X ....
[07:54] <dwidmann> (if you were using certain drivers, that is)
[07:55] <noiesmo> dwidmann, mefisto__ didnt do updates I asked him
[07:55] <mefisto__> dwidmann: I got the xorg update a few days ago, but everything was fine
[07:55] <dwidmann> had you rebooted since the updates?
[07:55] <mefisto__> yes
[07:55] <MobsterLobster> hey all
[07:56] <jean-b> hello ther
[07:56] <dwidmann> mefisto__, how much space did df say you had left?
[07:56] <MobsterLobster> what is the most current X?
[07:57] <mefisto__> I'm on livecd. Can I check that now, or do I need to use recovery mode?
[07:57] <noiesmo> mefisto__, ok mount the hdd in question then yoou will see
[07:57] <dwidmann> the version of X in edgy is 7.1, I think there might be a 7.2, can't remember
[07:58] <MobsterLobster> so the version 6.9 in solaris 10 is old?
[07:58] <dwidmann> quite
[07:58] <dwidmann> hmm, looks like 7.1 is current
[07:58] <addyk> (x.X) I wonder what came with slackware
[07:58] <noiesmo> mefisto__, open cosole and type mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/hdaX repace X with drive if not maybe /dev/sda
[07:59] <Rossco> Hay
[07:59] <Rossco> HAY GUYZ LOLSZ
[07:59] <addyk> Aloha! :)
[07:59] <Rossco> I need some helps
[07:59] <MobsterLobster> i know this is the wrong place to ask but can update ur X in solaris and is KDE installable on Solaris?
[07:59] <dwidmann> 6.9 was released in late 2005? I think?
[07:59] <Rossco> I just installed ubuntu kay?
[07:59] <mefisto__> noiesmo: can I do that on livecd?
[07:59] <Rossco> and I'm trying to install some software
[07:59] <noiesmo> mefisto__, yes
[07:59] <Rossco> can someone help ms?
[07:59] <Rossco> me*
[08:00] <noiesmo> mefisto__, open a terminal
[08:00] <addyk> Rossco: OK :) use Synaptic
[08:00] <dwidmann> MonsterLobster, yes, and yes. How to do so I'm not sure though.
[08:00] <mefisto__> noiesmo: can't find it in fstab
[08:00] <Rossco> addyk
[08:00] <addyk> Rossco: you should have it installed :)
[08:00] <Rossco> I type in gaim-xfire-0.6.0-1.5.0.FC4.0.i386.rpm
[08:00] <noiesmo> mefisto__, thats ok its not mounted
[08:00] <Rossco> wait
[08:00] <Rossco> I type in
[08:00] <MobsterLobster> does solaris have a equivilant of apt?
[08:00] <noiesmo> mefisto__, do you have normal ide drive
[08:00] <mefisto__> noiesmo: so how do I mount it?
[08:00] <Rossco> apt-get install gaim-xfire-0.6.0-1.5.0.FC4.0.i386.rpm
[08:00] <mefisto__> yes, ide
[08:01] <Rossco> is what I typed in
[08:01] <noiesmo> mefisto__, type mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/hdaX
[08:01] <Rossco> how do I tell it which directory to go to?
[08:01] <addyk> OK :)
[08:01] <Rossco> it's in /tmp/
[08:01] <noiesmo> mefisto__, replace X with partition number
[08:01] <addyk> You don't
[08:01] <addyk> It just installes it
[08:01] <addyk> Systemwide
[08:01] <Rossco> I mean
[08:01] <xenophile7x7> can someone do a quick whois on me, and post the results in pm?
[08:01] <firecrotc1> Rossco: you cannot install RPMs that way
[08:01] <addyk> You then can make a link to gaim
[08:01] <dwidmann> MobsterLobster: dunno
[08:01] <Rossco> How do I install it then?
[08:02] <Rossco> the .rpm file is in tmp
[08:02] <addyk> It might be allready installed
[08:02] <addyk> open console
[08:02] <addyk> and typt gaim
[08:02] <addyk> *type
[08:02] <MobsterLobster> ok Sun is doing a shipit of sun 10 so im thinking of using for a server
[08:02] <noiesmo> mefisto__, if you like you can reboot into recoverey mode on your system and then you could check df -h for space
[08:02] <noiesmo> mefisto__, the drive will be mounted for you
[08:02] <Rossco> I have gaim installed
[08:02] <Rossco> I'm trying to install an addon for it
[08:03] <MobsterLobster> *solaris 10
[08:03] <noiesmo> mefisto__, when your in recovery mode you can check the logs in /var/log/ as well
[08:03] <Rossco> I just wanna know how I install it
[08:03] <addyk> Oh... Well isn't it? installed? Hmm
[08:03] <noiesmo> mefisto__, but once you mount drive on licevd you can also do this
[08:03] <mefisto__> noiesmo: 121 mb free. but I've had less that that free with no problems
[08:03] <noiesmo> mefisto__, ok so its not space
[08:03] <noiesmo> mefisto__, check the logs n /var/log/
[08:04] <Rossco> C'mon
[08:04] <Rossco> I need someone to tell me how to install it
[08:04] <Rossco> Just, someone tell me how I install an RPM file
[08:04] <Rossco> that's all I need to know
[08:04] <Rossco> please
[08:04] <dwidmann> !alien
[08:04] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:04] <bartist> hello there
[08:04] <MobsterLobster> get the .deb
[08:05] <Rossco> ok
[08:05] <addyk> Wow... (o.O)
[08:05] <Rossco> what about tar.gz ?
[08:05] <addyk> I didn't know that...  :|
[08:05] <bartist> i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants
[08:05] <addyk> That's a source in most cases
[08:05] <dwidmann> mefisto__: apt-get clean is a good way to free up space
[08:05] <xenophile7x7> hey dwid, can you do that whois one more time?
[08:05] <bartist> apt-get clean?? what does it do?
[08:06] <MobsterLobster> WTF my games arent loading
[08:06] <addyk> Rossco: that should work on all linuxes
[08:06] <noiesmo> bartist, remove files for cache of apt-get
[08:06] <dwidmann> apt-get clean clears out the /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:06] <addyk> In slackware (my system) that's what I use :)
[08:06] <bartist> ok thanx
[08:06] <bartist> i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants, any idea?
[08:06] <MobsterLobster> how can i get my games to load?
[08:07] <addyk> MobsterLobster: which games?
[08:07] <gan|y|med> hi
[08:07] <Rossco> Is it possilbe to play windows games in linux? o_o
[08:07] <MobsterLobster> armagetron, neverball and never putt addyk
[08:08] <addyk> Rossco: yes
[08:08] <Rossco> like CS: S and stuff
[08:08] <MobsterLobster> use wine
[08:08] <addyk> With an emulator
[08:08] <Rossco> cost?
[08:08] <mefisto__> noiesmo: which logs should I check? xorg.0.log?
[08:08] <addyk> None
[08:08] <addyk> with wine
[08:08] <addyk> winex is the one that costs
[08:08] <MobsterLobster> addyk u got any ideas?
[08:08] <gan|y|med> can a broken root file system (reiserfs) cause a kernel panic?
[08:09] <noiesmo> mefisto__, yep
[08:09] <addyk> addyk: I'm thinking :)
[08:09] <noiesmo> mefisto__, also maybe messages and syslog
[08:09] <addyk> MobsterLobster: so the game runs and stops at loadscreen?
[08:10] <MobsterLobster> it says its loading in the task bar and the KDE logo jumps around but then it just dissapears
[08:10] <addyk> OK :) Open a console and type armagetron
[08:11] <addyk> And see if it shows any error messages
[08:11] <mefisto__> noiesmo: I don't really know what to look for
[08:11] <Rossco> Can someone please help me
[08:12] <MobsterLobster> Armagetron won't run on your computer
[08:12] <noiesmo> mefisto__, you still livcd
[08:12] <mefisto__> noiesmo: yes
[08:12] <MobsterLobster> Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[08:12] <Rossco> How do I enable direct rendering?
[08:12] <noiesmo> mefisto__, copy and paste to pastebin
[08:12] <noiesmo> !pastebin | mefisto__
[08:12] <ubotu> mefisto__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:12] <MobsterLobster> addyk looks like my 3d drivers aint working
[08:12] <mefisto__> noiesmo: which log do you want?
[08:13] <noiesmo> mefisto__, xorg first
[08:13] <addyk> MobsterLobster: That's what I'm thinking... you need a new open gl or something
[08:13] <addyk> :)
[08:13] <MobsterLobster> and how would i get that addyk?
[08:13] <Rossco> someone please help me
[08:13] <Rossco> rossco@rossco-desktop:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[08:13] <Rossco> direct rendering: No
[08:13] <Rossco> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:13] <Rossco> How do I enable direct rendering?
[08:14] <addyk> MobsterLobster, Use google :) That's how I found it :)
[08:14] <shinigami> i need help on my sony vaio laptop...a pop up at the center of the screen keep coming up saying "LCD display 'ON'" randomly after about 30 secs etc.. i checked my /var/log/messages its filled with "[17180763.400000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness".. new installation of kubutu dapper..help!
[08:14] <dwidmann> Rossco: you need to install a different video driver ...
[08:14] <Rossco> Ok
[08:14] <dwidmann> which one depends on your video card, Rossco
[08:14] <Rossco> And install the linux drivers?
[08:14] <Rossco> for my gfx card
[08:14] <addyk> Rossco, Search at the manufacturers site
[08:14] <Rossco> Ok
[08:15] <addyk> If nvidia nvidia.com :)
[08:15] <mefisto__> noiesmo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1921/
[08:15] <noiesmo> mefisto__, ok give me a minute
[08:15] <dwidmann> !ati
[08:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <Rossco> ok
[08:15] <Rossco> ty
[08:16] <shinigami> dmesg show a whole list of [17180763.400000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness.................
[08:16] <addyk> Argh... I really need to learn how to use that... (^_^) It's too cool dwidmann :)
[08:16] <shinigami> !acpi
[08:16] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[08:16] <noiesmo> mefisto__, please paste you gdm or kdm log file please
[08:17] <dwidmann> !randomness | addyk
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about randomness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <dwidmann> There's a list
[08:17] <addyk> :))
[08:17] <addyk> Thanks! :D
[08:17] <addyk> Good morning! btw dwidmann
[08:18] <shinigami> i need help on my sony vaio laptop...a pop up at the center of the screen keep coming up saying "LCD display 'ON'" randomly after about 30 secs etc.. i checked my /var/log/messages its filled with "[17180763.400000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness".. new installation of kubutu dapper..help!
[08:18] <mefisto__> noiesmo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1922/
[08:19] <dwidmann> yw addyk
[08:20] <addyk> yw? Don't know the acronim sorry :D
[08:20] <noiesmo> mefisto__, thats not gdm or kdm log
[08:20] <noiesmo> mefisto__, the xorg looks normal
[08:20] <dwidmann> You're welcome
[08:21] <addyk> OK :D It should have been easy to spot... :)) I must have a slow mind right now... :)
[08:22] <mefisto__> noiesmo: that's the contents of /var/log/kdm.log
[08:23] <shinigami> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:23] <shinigami>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[08:23] <shinigami>                             libc-dev
[08:23] <shinigami> what does it mean?
[08:24] <dwidmann> shinigami, means that something is wrong, perhaps you had the "updates" repository enabled, did an upgrade with it, and then turned it back off, or something similar. It usually comes down to something like that
[08:25] <bartist> i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants, any idea?
[08:25] <shinigami> yes.. the sources.list i used was for edgy.. but i'm using dapper..
[08:26] <Ashex> anyone know of a dictionary client?
[08:26] <dwidmann> bartist, at which points does it work?
[08:26] <shinigami> so i revert back to dapper's sources.list ..now this happen
[08:26] <Ashex> I want to look up definitions for words locally without a web browser
[08:26] <stdin> dwidmann: I may be fuelled by coffee, but I'm not a mechanical being :P
[08:26] <bartist> well it works fine on: windows and ubuntu dapper
[08:26] <bartist> then i installed kubuntu edgy
[08:26] <dwidmann> hahahaha, and you get that message this many hours later stdin :D
[08:27] <noiesmo> mefisto__, ok i don't see anything there thats too odd hmmm
[08:27] <mefisto__> noiesmo: do you want to see any other log files?
[08:27] <stdin> dwidmann: I have logs :)
[08:27] <bartist> it worked a the beginning on Kedgy
[08:27] <mefisto__> syslog?
[08:27] <bartist> then it stopped working
[08:27] <dwidmann> Makes me wonder why you were looking for it though stdin, or what you were looking for, anyway.
[08:27] <bartist> usualy, it bugs after the sound server crashes
[08:28] <bartist> then I reinstalled my alsa packages from a fresh kernel, and it worked a few days
[08:28] <bartist> then the sound server crashed ...
[08:28] <bartist> and i could never fix it again
[08:28] <shinigami> what should i do?
[08:28] <bartist> now I have just re-installed Kedgy
[08:28] <stdin> dwidmann: konversation was flashing, but there was nothing on the screen, so I just search for my nick
[08:28] <bartist> bot it does not work
[08:28] <Rossco> HAY PAINLESS
[08:29] <bartist> any ideA?
[08:29] <addyk> Hehe... :) I have a question... and I don't know ho much is related to ubuntu/kubuntu, but... how do I make the mouse scroll work? Any Ideeas?
[08:29] <bartist> just turn the wheel buddy
[08:30] <dwidmann> shinigami, one sec, I'll see what I can pull together
[08:30] <addyk> (~_~) I'm not retarded... I know when it ain't working :)
[08:30] <bartist> just a bad joke addyk ;o)
[08:30] <shinigami> my other stations (without tweaking with the sources.list) can apt-get install build-essential
[08:30] <addyk> I know bartist :)
[08:30] <dwidmann> addyk, it should be something you set in your xorg.conf
[08:31] <bartist> dwidmann, any idea about my sound issue?
[08:31] <addyk> I got a hint just now... dwidmann  :)
[08:32] <noiesmo> mefisto__, sorry got ide track, I would prob do the fsck   /dev/hdaX but unmount first
[08:32] <dwidmann> bartist, no clue. To me alsa is a large black box, that I avoid having to know anything about out of the fear that my brain will catch on fire.
[08:32] <dwidmann> !paste | dwidmann
[08:32] <ubotu> dwidmann: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <Rossco> Guys, I need some help with installing video card drivers
[08:32] <noiesmo> mefisto__, the logs look fairly normal nothing there I would say is causeing problem
[08:32] <Rossco> "
[08:32] <Rossco> #
[08:32] <Rossco> Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. Selecting one will also install nvidia-kernel-common. (Note: you have to select the restricted modules first because the nvidia-glx package automatically installs the i386 one - and if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work.)
[08:33] <Rossco> I dont hvae linux-image anything installed
[08:33] <Rossco> I dunno what do do
[08:34] <dwidmann> shinigami, I think it was, look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1923/ replace your sources.list with this, then do an update, an upgrade, then try to install build-essential again
[08:34] <stdin> Rossco: chat dose "uname -r" in konsole show ?
[08:34] <stdin> s/chat/what
[08:35] <Rossco> stdin: it shows 2.6.15-26-386
[08:36] <mefisto__> noiesmo: the command is fsck hdXX right?
[08:36] <maziah> ola
[08:36] <maziah> anyone know if there is a multithreadding package manager?
[08:37] <dwidmann> ??
[08:37] <dwidmann> what do you mean maziah, what are you seaking to have the package manager do?
[08:37] <shinigami> hi dwidmann.. mine is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1924/
[08:37] <stdin> Rossco: then you need to get "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386"
[08:37] <shinigami> take a look see if its alright
[08:37] <maziah> use multipule threads from a single source for a same file.
[08:37] <Rossco> Ok thanks
[08:38] <maziah> like a download manager.
[08:38] <jason_>  how I can use Chinese in Kubuntu ??
[08:39] <jason_> I can't add language in kubuntu.
[08:39] <dwidmann> shinigami, looks like it's missing dapper-updates universe (I don't think there is a dapper-updates multiverse, could be though)
[08:39] <mefisto__> noiesmo: the command is fsck hdXX right?
[08:39] <maziah> no idea?
[08:40] <dwidmann> wait, yes there is a dapper-updates multiverse, I'll be d***ed
[08:40] <jason_>  how I can use Chinese in Kubuntu ??
[08:40] <jason_> I can't add language in kubuntu.
[08:40] <dwidmann> is for dapper-security too o.O
[08:40] <Rossco> lol, what is fsck?
[08:41] <dwidmann> filesystem check
[08:41] <codyt> lol
[08:41] <Rossco> If you tell me, I think I may make sense of a shirt I saw a while ago
[08:41] <Rossco> ROFL
[08:41] <Rossco> omg lol
[08:41] <noiesmo> mefisto__, fsck /dev/hdaX
[08:41] <Rossco> I saw this shirt that said FSCK!
[08:41] <Rossco> And it said it would make concerned parents complain to you :P
[08:41] <noiesmo> lol rob
[08:41] <Rossco> the description fo the shirt
[08:41] <mefisto__> noiesmo: ok, it said it's clean. Anything else I can try?
[08:41] <noiesmo> bloody tab completion
[08:42] <Tmi> Does anyone recognize the problem that KDE's built-in archive manager (the one that is started if you click a .rar if you don't install other unrar-programs) just stops working
[08:42] <shinigami> no.. still the same.. can't install build-essential
[08:43] <noiesmo> mefisto__,  you could try create a new user and see if they can log in, maybe reinstall video drivers
[08:43] <mefisto__> noiesmo: how do I create a new user?
[08:44] <dwidmann> shinigami, you said you had some edgy items in your sources.list at one point right ... you probably have some edgy programs installed that apt doesn't want to downgrade. Perhaps if you were to do a apt-get dist-upgrade, maybe.
[08:45] <Rossco> How do I make myself a superuser so I don't have to tpye in sudo -s everytime?
[08:45] <shinigami> ok.
[08:45] <shinigami> i'll do a dist-upgrade
[08:45] <dwidmann> Rossco: running as root all the time would be like walking around naked.
[08:45] <dwidmann> just one of those things that I woudln't recommend doing
[08:45] <maziah> hrm maybe there isnt a multithreading package manager ;/
[08:46] <Rossco> Lol, ok
[08:46] <Rossco> For what reasons?
[08:46] <vytautas> its not that bad to walk naked at home
[08:46] <codyt> haha
[08:46] <maziah> gets cold awfuly quick ;>
[08:46] <mefisto__> Rossco: leaves you vulnerable, security-wise
[08:46] <noiesmo> mefisto__, you'll have to log in recovery mode then do sudo adduser username
[08:46] <Rossco> lol, k guys BRB - gotta restart X
[08:46] <dwidmann> maziah, no, there isn't, but you could be downloading multiple packages at the same time, by using multiple mirrors.
[08:47] <maziah> stink, dpkg alredy does that
[08:47] <mefisto__> noiesmo: ok thanks, I'll try that
[08:47] <shinigami> damnit.............still can't after dist-upgrade
[08:47] <shinigami> URGHH
[08:47] <noiesmo> mefisto__, np
[08:49] <shinigami> dwidmann: how do i remove those edgy programs manaully?
[08:49] <bartist> i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants, any idea?
[08:49] <vytautas> be nice to her
[08:51] <Rossco> Back :)
[08:55] <james_> has anybody had any sucess in installing a canon ip1000 within kubunut?
[08:57] <kraut> moin
[09:00] <Rossco> I need some help installing this thing guys
[09:00] <Rossco> can anyone help me?
[09:01] <Rossco> It's a .tar.gz file
[09:01] <cmcguicken> I need some help, i have downloaded a tar.gz file. How do i run and install the program???
[09:01] <dwidmann> a .tar.gz file is just a compressed archive, like a zip file, so it depends what is in it ...
[09:01] <codyt> it's a tarball.
[09:02] <cmcguicken> so how do i run it>?
[09:02] <james_> has anybody had any sucess in installing a canon ip1000 within kubunut?
[09:02] <cmcguicken> its a program
[09:02] <dwidmann> cmcguicken: there's a strong possibility that you downloaded the source code for a program, what is the program?
[09:02] <cmcguicken> how do you install programs? it says to do a command but where and how.
[09:03] <cmcguicken> bombObomb.program-1.0.11.2.tgz
[09:03] <fuel> i get a message from adept manager saying database for packages is locked........however i am not running any other process......... how do i unlock it
[09:03] <cmcguicken> and i have a nother one which is tar.gz
[09:03] <dwidmann> !adeptfix | fuel
[09:03] <ubotu> fuel: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:04] <cmcguicken> so, any help?
[09:04] <shinigami> i still can't get build-essential ........help
[09:04] <dwidmann> cmcguicken: well, the first thing you have to do is extract it, you can do this in a terminal, or by using ark
[09:04] <cmcguicken> yes i have done this
[09:04] <dwidmann> what files are in the base directory cmcguicken?
[09:04] <cmcguicken> but there is jusat loads of files
[09:04] <cmcguicken> loads.
[09:05] <stdin> cmcguicken: there is a small guide here for compiling applications https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[09:05] <dwidmann> shinigami, mixing files from different repositories (ie, installing edgy things in dapper) always ends in tears.
[09:05] <shinigami> urghhhhhhhhh
[09:06] <Rossco> I'm trying to run this thing
[09:06] <Rossco> But I need to run it as a superuser
[09:06] <Rossco> how do I do that? :S
[09:06] <shinigami> anything i can do to revert besides reinstalling kubuntu?
[09:06] <dwidmann> if you know which ones they were shinigami you can try to replace them on an as needed basis
[09:06] <fuel> dwidmann : great it worked ! thanks :)
[09:06] <cmcguicken> im confused. cant i just run a setup file to install an application??
[09:06] <codyt> Rossco: using the command "sudo" preferably.
[09:06] <cmcguicken> like on windows
[09:07] <shinigami> ok...i need those compilers like gcc..etc
[09:07] <fuel> cmcguicken : linux is not windows
[09:07] <codyt> cmcguicken: sometimes, not allways.
[09:07] <cmcguicken> sorry, i have just switched
[09:07] <dwidmann> cmcguicken: No, not if you download source code ... which you probably did
[09:07] <shinigami> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory. <-- does it means i don't have those building compilers?
[09:07] <fuel> after extracting........you should probably run ./configure then make and make install if the folder contains any configure files
[09:07] <cmcguicken> it has a configure and install files but when i click on them it is just text
[09:08] <fuel> yeah goo
[09:08] <fuel> d
[09:08] <fuel> now press F8
[09:08] <fuel> you will get a konsole at the bottom
[09:08] <cmcguicken> how do you "ron ./configure"
[09:08] <dwidmann> cmcguicken: I can walk you through it, but you're going to need some patience
[09:08] <fuel> there type ./configure
[09:08] <cmcguicken> ok, i have got to go now. have you got email?
[09:08] <cmcguicken> or i will go back on irc
[09:09] <dwidmann> First thing you will need to do cmcguicken, is to run this command: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[09:09] <cmcguicken> later. THnks for all the help anyway. ok
[09:09] <dwidmann> going so soon? who doesn't have email?
[09:09] <fuel> x( next time he comes!!!
[09:09] <codyt> dwidmann: do you devote a lot of time to helping?
[09:09] <fuel> codyt : irc is for that only
[09:10] <dwidmann> codyt: devotes such a strong word, I just kind of do it.
[09:10] <codyt> understood.
[09:10] <bartist> i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants  -- PLEASE HELP
[09:11] <dwidmann> codyt: Granted, for not "devoting", that is where _a_lot_ of my time goes
[09:12] <codyt> dwidmann: I can respect that.
[09:12] <codyt> I do, rather.
[09:13] <codyt> bartist: are you pretty new to linux?
[09:13] <bartist> we can say so codyt
[09:14] <bartist> do you think you have a clue codyt?
[09:14] <codyt> I struggled to get my soundcard working when I first started using Gentoo, and it can be a pain.
[09:14] <shinigami> i still can't install build-essential
[09:14] <shinigami> sigh
[09:14] <bartist> the strange thing is that my soundcard worked fine on ubuntu dapper
[09:14] <shinigami> what are the directories that contain the resiporities?
[09:14] <bartist> and worked a bit on kubuntu edgy
[09:15] <bartist> then it just stopped to work
[09:15] <dwidmann> shinigami, as per the packages it said it couldn't install, force in those packages manually. It may be extremely tedious, extremely, but it should let things work.
[09:15] <codyt> bartist: you might just need to install the appropriate drivers.
[09:15] <shinigami> how to force?
[09:15] <bartist> already done
[09:15] <guglielf> hi *  in which dir is the help:/ system located?
[09:16] <dwidmann> shinigami, /etc/apt/ is where you sources.list is ... /var/cache/apt/archives is where apts cache is, and as for repositories, for most you can just punch in the url and browse it in your browser if needed
[09:16] <codyt> I'll see if I can find other reports of problems with that soundcard.
[09:17] <bartist> i have been looking on google for days now
[09:17] <codyt> bartist: do you know if you're using ALSA, OSS, ESD?
[09:17] <bartist> it's set on autodetect, so i guess its alsa
[09:18] <bartist> the most frustriating is that it worked 2 days ago
[09:18] <bartist> then i rebooted
[09:18] <bartist> and nothing!!!
[09:20] <codyt> hasn't worked at all since?
[09:20] <shinigami> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:20] <shinigami> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:20] <shinigami> what's this???????
[09:21] <shinigami> nvmind
[09:21] <shinigami> got it
[09:21] <shinigami> if i get apt-get source build-essential
[09:21] <shinigami> what shd i do next
[09:22] <bartist> no it hasn't, i even made a fresh install
[09:23] <codyt> what are you testing the sound with?
[09:24] <codyt> I'm seeing some posts where all the person had to do was install the alsa-libs, alsa-drivers and alsa-tools packages.
[09:24] <james_> is there a way to default video resalution without plugging a monitor in?
[09:25] <startswithz> what program do you guys use for peer to peer downloading?
[09:26] <dwidmann> shinigami, why would you want to build from source?
[09:26] <dwidmann> I mean, build build-essential from source ....
[09:26] <dwidmann> it's just a metapackage anyway ...
[09:26] <codyt> startswithz: you might try searching sourceforge, or linux.softpedia.com
[09:26] <death2xp> .
[09:26] <shinigami> ok i'm gg crazy.. just need those build tools to compile something
[09:27] <shinigami> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory. <-- means i need to install build-essential ??
[09:27] <Rob-West> can someone help me setup MAME in KDE
[09:28] <dwidmann> anyway, shinigami, the easiest way to fix your problem is either reinstall, or to either upgrade to edgy, or to reinstall dapper.
[09:29] <dwidmann> If you have a seperate /home partition then that would be good, if you can backup your list of installed packages that would be good too
[09:30] <shinigami> ok
[09:30] <shinigami> i guess i'll upgrade to edgy
[09:30] <shinigami> damnit........
[09:31] <Rob-West> edgy rocks
[09:31] <shinigami> hey
[09:31] <codyt> edgy rocks could be dangerous.
[09:31] <death2xp> ouch
[09:31] <dwidmann> hahahaha
[09:31] <shinigami> to upgrade to edgy i just need to change the sources.list from dapper to edgy and do update upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[09:32] <Rob-West> im using Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy
[09:32] <linux_> hey guys have someone experience to install a free navigation system on PDA ?
[09:32] <linux_> or some good links
[09:32] <death2xp> i use destinator pns
[09:33] <death2xp> not free but dl from torrentz
[09:34] <ForgeAus> you can't... erm.. debianize zipslack can you?
[09:34] <ForgeAus> or can you install kubuntu into a fat32 drive?
[09:36] <dwidmann> shinigami, that should work
[09:37] <dwidmann> I don't think you can install kubuntu on a fat32 partition ForgeAus
[09:37] <dwidmann> and even if you could, why use an antiquated partition format like fat32?
[09:37] <codyt> not without reformatting the partion, I don't think.
[09:38] <d0dge> Any suggestions how to uninstall nvidia drivers?
[09:38] <d0dge> I've installed them two or three times and now I need to uninstall all of them
[09:38] <shinigami> hope it works..its updating now
[09:38] <d0dge> Should I search 'nvidia' folders and delete them all, manually?
[09:38] <noiesmo> !envy | d0dge
[09:39] <ubotu> d0dge: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[09:39] <shinigami> so..meanwhile care to tell me the differences between..dapper and edgy
[09:39] <shinigami> !edgy
[09:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:39] <d0dge> noiesmo: Ok, thanks
[09:39] <noiesmo> d0dge, it can also uninstall drivers check the k=link
[09:39] <dwidmann> d0dge, the nvidia installer doubles as the uninstaller, , something like ./blahblahblah.bin --uninstall should work
[09:39] <d0dge> Ok I'll try that
[09:40] <d0dge> Because, last time I installed them, nvidia drivers worked, but now X server crashes every time I reboot
[09:40] <d0dge> So I need to use 'nv' driver or 'vesa'
[09:40] <dwidmann> d0dge, give envy a shot first ... it's a great piece of work :)
[09:41] <d0dge> Roger
[09:41] <BlueDevil> is firefox2 in any dapper repos?
[09:41] <dwidmann> if it i s, it would be in dapper-backports or dapper-security
[09:41] <codyt> d0dge: as a "quick fix" you can revert to the previous xorg.conf that hastn' been touched by the install yet.
[09:41] <d0dge> codyt: Yeah I've done that..
[09:42] <codyt> Sorry.
[09:42] <d0dge> 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and then 'nv' drivers
[09:42] <d0dge> It works, but when I select nvidia and reboot, It doesn't :(
[09:42] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :)
[09:42] <d0dge> But I'll try envy
[09:43] <stdin> hay [StingRay]  :)
[09:44] <BlueDevil> dwidmann: in the wiki it says it's available in backports for dapper, but can't find it
[09:44] <[StingRay] > stdin, I successfully remapped the keyboard layouts ;)
[09:45] <stdin> [StingRay] : cool, so you finally have everything working now?
[09:45] <dwidmann> Blue devil, do you have the dapper-backports repository enabled?
[09:45] <[StingRay] > Hot exactly, stdin. I am very displeased with wine's window handling. Some of the windows are not visible on alt-tab funcion, the order windows are opened is a mess :(.
[09:46] <[StingRay] > stdin, I have reeducate the users...
[09:46] <dwidmann> d0dge, you _have_ to use nvidia-xconfig to reconfigure x to use nvidia, otherwise it just plain won't work.
[09:47] <stdin> [StingRay] : so can you sleep at night now, without worrying about users fscking up :P
[09:47] <BlueDevil> dwidmann: yes
[09:48] <[StingRay] > :D, stdin. There are no night shifts, so sleeping is fine.
[09:48] <dwidmann> BlueDevil, and you've apt-get updated, then apt-get install firefox, or perhaps firefox2 (or something), whatever they felt like calling the package
[09:49] <BlueDevil> dwidmann: i've used synaptic, but yes, those were the actions
[09:49] <[StingRay] > I will carry out some tests to see how gnome handles the windows..., stdin
[09:50] <stdin> [StingRay] : eww, gnome :P
[09:52] <dwidmann> I'm not sure then bluedevil ... I upgraded to edgy right after it was released
[09:52] <dwidmann> in fact, I'm preparing to make an early move to feisty now ...
[09:52] <BlueDevil> np, thanks for the help
[09:52] <[StingRay] > stdin,...my first impressions were on ubuntu...will keep you informed about the progress ;)
[09:53] <codyt> dwidmann: what are the major differences?
[09:53] <dwidmann> as usual, updated software
[09:53] <stdin> [StingRay] : it sounds like an interesting project, you could maybe put the steps on the ubuntu wiki :)
[09:54] <dwidmann> I'm not sure what all else is in the works, I'm sure there is something though
[09:54] <caris_mere> Can somebody help me with a few QT questions?
[09:54] <codyt> I'll have to look into it later.
[09:54] <dwidmann> caris_mere, I can try
[09:55] <caris_mere> dwidmann: thanks.  There are a few programs I would like that require QT4, but I think I only have QT3...
[09:56] <caris_mere> dwidmann: Can I upgrade? Is it easy?  Any tips?
[09:56] <dwidmann> caris_mere, it's easy if you're using edgy, might not be on dapper though
[09:57] <caris_mere> dwidmann: I'm using dapper
[09:57] <dwidmann> I think what needs to be installed are the libqt4* packages
[09:58] <dwidmann> If you see them on dapper then it will be easy, on the other hand, if you don't see them, it'll be more difficult
[09:58] <ramanuj_> vbetool[4182] :segfault at 00000000000054d1 rip oooooooooo4256f3 rsp
[09:58] <ramanuj_> this mesg is coming every time my system is booting up
[09:59] <ramanuj_> this mesg is coming every time my system is booting up
[09:59] <ramanuj_> what may be the reason
[09:59] <stdin> afaik you just need "libqt4-core" "libqt4-gui" "libqt4-sql" and probably "libqt4-qt3support" to get Qt4 on dapper
[09:59] <[StingRay] > stdin, it would be a good idea if there were not so many workarounds...it is not professional. I cannot explain to the users why xmodmap under tightvnc is mapping the wrong keys...and etc.
[09:59] <dwidmann> caris_mere, to figure it out, search for libqt4 in adept, or use apt-cache search libqt4
[09:59] <caris_mere> dwidmann: They are in adept. Do I need to uninstall qt3 first, or can I just install qt4?
[09:59] <dwidmann> stdin: probably, I figured core and gui at the least
[10:00] <dwidmann> caris_mere: NO
[10:00] <dwidmann> caris_mere, in fact, that could really cause problems to try to remove that
[10:00] <caris_mere> dwidmann: I figured
[10:00] <codyt> caris_mere: many packages may rely specifically on qt3 as apposed to qt4
[10:00] <caris_mere> Can I have both?
[10:01] <stdin> caris_mere: yes, you can have both installed
[10:01] <caris_mere> ah, ok, So I can just install them now and things might work? :-)
[10:01] <dwidmann> Feisty changes: it looks like ubiquity has been ported to qt4, zeroconf is enabled by default, more systemsettings changes, some more changes in default applications ... password boxes use bullets instead of asterisks, changes to power management
[10:01] <dwidmann> caris_mere: yep
[10:02] <caris_mere> dwidmann: thanks
[10:02] <caris_mere> thanks everybody
[10:03] <caris_mere> One more questions, do I need libqt4-qt3support?
[10:05] <stdin> I think that just allows Qt3 apps to run on Qt4, so it may not be *needed*
[10:05] <caris_mere> ok, I won't install it
[10:14] <mefisto__> noiesmo: still have my login problem. I created a new user, no different. BUT when I tried to use apt-get, got an error about my sources.list, which turned out to be junk contents, not text. Probably has happened to other files too (when I first ran fsck it "fixed" lots of files)
[10:18] <noiesmo> mefisto__, maybe the hdd had a major failure maybe get manufacture diagnoics tool for hdd ad test your drive
[10:19] <noiesmo> mefisto__, had a drive crap out was replaced under warranty
[10:19] <mefisto__> is there a way to reinstall installed packages with apt-get?
[10:20] <noiesmo> mefisto__, yes apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[10:21] <mefisto__> yes but which packages? can I do something like -reinstall all (to reinstall whatever is already installed)?
[10:21] <noiesmo> mefisto__, no there's no way I know to just apt-get everypackage
[10:22] <mefisto__> can apt-get list installed packages?
[10:22] <noiesmo> you can do dpkg-query -l to ge a list of packages installed
[10:22] <mefisto__> OK thanks
[10:24] <usemody> good morning @all
[10:24] <noiesmo> mefisto__, np good luck
[10:24] <usemody> need help .......by initializing ircservices 4 my fresh installed ircd-ircu server
[10:25] <mefisto__> any other advice, other than reinstalling kubuntu?
[10:25] <usemody> how can i become on that memoserv chanserv and nickserv
[10:27] <noiesmo> mefisto__, you could rebuild otherwise a reinstall did you do a seperate user home partiton when you installed
[10:27] <mefisto__> noiesmo: yes, separate home partition
[10:28] <mefisto__> what do you mean by "rebuild"?
[10:29] <noiesmo> mefisto__, get in recovery mode and then just reinstall major packages such as X Gnome etc
[10:30] <mefisto__> noiesmo: I have little idea which packages are major ones. Is there a list I can refer to somewhere?
[10:31] <mefisto__> noiesmo: I might try reinstalling X first. Is that "xserver-xorg" ?
[10:31] <noiesmo> mefisto__, no list and yes do xserver-xorg
[10:33] <mefisto__> noiesmo: I have dapper installed. what if I try to upgrade to edgy? Is it worth trying with apt-get? Or is it likely to cause more headaches than it solves?
[10:34] <noiesmo> mefisto__, that might be the go you got headaches now with install
[10:35] <noiesmo> mefisto__, i upgrade from dapper to edgy no maor drama
[10:35] <noiesmo> mefisto__, had to reinstall nvidia but other than that no reall probs
[10:35] <mefisto__> noiesmo: can I use apt-get to upgrade from edgy cd, rather than download everything?
[10:36] <noiesmo> mefisto__, not 100% I normally just use the net
[10:37] <mefisto__> noiesmo: how much free space would I need?
[10:38] <intelikey> anybody know what device node this would be ?    Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[10:38] <noiesmo> mefisto__, prob about a gig as packages will be replaced
[10:39] <intelikey> burned is scd0    scsi address is 0,4,0 ?
[10:39] <intelikey> burner that is.
[10:40] <intelikey> ?
[10:40] <larson9999> is flash 9 final in the repositories yet?
[10:41] <intelikey> !flash
[10:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:41] <intelikey> !flash9
[10:41] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[10:41] <intelikey> don't know is if it's "final" or not.
[10:42] <intelikey> anyone know what the raw device node would be for dev/scd0  ?
[10:42] <intelikey> is it sg something ?
[10:43] <intelikey> i'm thinking sg   help me out here...
[10:43] <larson9999> intelikey: sure.  i have that installed but it's not the final version.  at least it wasn't
[10:45] <intelikey> hope it's not sr0  heh that's just a symlink to scd0 ...
[10:45] <codyt> hmm, no IP masking..
[10:48] <gnarlie> how usable is feisty herd 2?
[10:50] <codyt> is a fresh install of kubuntu likely to get exploited/hacked/etc?
[10:51] <ForgeAus> codyt? how/why would it?
[10:51] <stdin> nope, not a chance in hell :P
[10:52] <codyt> haha
[10:52] <codyt> Well, I'm pretty new to linux.
[10:52] <ForgeAus> linux isnt like XP
[10:52] <codyt> I've only had my linux box connected to the internet for about a month now.
[10:52] <codyt> I've noticed. (:
[10:52] <stdin> a fresh install is _extremely_ secure
[10:52] <ForgeAus> its less spyware/virus prone
[10:53] <stdin> less = immuse
[10:53] <codyt> my XP lags when I right-click on my desktop. (I keep it for my mom)
[10:53] <codyt> she's far from being tech-savvy, and doesn't like change.
[10:53] <jason_> I have my pc set up so it dual boots windows and kubuntu, but a couple days ago windows totaly screwed up, how would i uninstall it and reinstall it? repairing it doesnt do anything, so i need to delete the partion, but i dont know whitch one is kubuntu and witch one is windows, how could i find out?
[10:54] <justin_> hello, anyone can help me?
[10:55] <codyt> justin_, you'll have to be a little more specific.
[10:55] <stdin> hey jason_  :)
[10:55] <justin_> my wireless USB adapter always goes to sleep
[10:55] <justin_> hello, codyt
[10:55] <codyt> mm, I'm not the right guy for that one.
[10:56] <stdin> jason_: open Konsole and use this command to see "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:56] <jason_> ok
[10:56] <justin_> it will be down after a while non-attended, and I cannot bring it up
[10:57] <stdin> jason_: the windows one will have "NTFS" by it, ie not the Linux or "Linux swap / Solaris"
[10:57] <justin_> the green LED on the adapter normally shows green when it's active
[10:57] <justin_> but when it's down, no LED at all.
[10:57] <jason_> is that -l or -1?
[10:58] <stdin> lower case L
[10:58] <justin_> the problem is I used every method I know to bring it up, but nothing happened.
[10:58] <jason_> ok, thx
[10:58] <justin_> thanks codyt anyway
[10:58] <gnarlie> anyone using feisty herd 2?
[10:58] <codyt> sorry I couldn't be of help.
[10:58] <stdin> gnarlie: yep
[10:58] <gnarlie> stdin: how is it?
[10:58] <gnarlie> any critical bugs?
[10:59] <stdin> gnarlie: it's quite stable for me (tm), but you should remember it's still alpha and can break at any time :P
[10:59] <gnarlie> =)
[10:59] <justin_> Knnten Sie mich helfen
[11:00] <jason_> its the first one,
[11:00] <ForgeAus> you trademarked yourself?
[11:00] <jason_> i'll do it tomorrow, its 2am here
[11:00] <jason_> thx
[11:01] <stdin> ForgeAus: no, the "for me" part :P
[11:01] <ForgeAus> IC
[11:02] <nate_> so ive just installed edgy, and theres only 1000 items a availible? in dapper i had over 18000
[11:02] <mineur> !samba
[11:02] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:03] <ForgeAus> nate perhaps the repositories you were using?
[11:03] <stdin> nate_: enable your repositories
[11:03] <stdin> !repos
[11:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:03] <justin_> anyone can help me with my wireless adaptor
[11:04] <ForgeAus> hmm pydance for edgy needs to be patched, but its ok with feisty... strange!
[11:04] <nate_> i have enable all the "standard repos", and i didnt have any other repos in dapper but the standard ones
[11:04] <nate_> also, whats this problem
[11:04] <nate_> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:04] <nate_>   libgtk2.0-0: Depends: libgtk2.0-bin (>= 2.10.6-0ubuntu3) but 2.10.6-0ubuntu1 is installed
[11:04] <nate_>   python-soya: Depends: python-imaging-tk but it is not installed
[11:04] <nate_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[11:04] <ForgeAus> nate, sounds wierd
[11:04] <nate_> im trying to upgrade and they are the only 2 hicups so far
[11:05] <stdin> try "sudo apt-get -f install" in Konsole
[11:05] <nate_> nate@NATIOUS:~$ apt-get -f install
[11:05] <nate_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:05] <nate_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:05] <stdin> ^^sudo
[11:05] <nate_> oh yep now its working
[11:06] <nate_> thanks, do you have any good how too's to get beryl working i have a nvidia 7900GS 512mb
[11:06] <ForgeAus> the su in sudo stands for superuser right?
[11:06] <ForgeAus> nate, theres a repository for beryl
[11:06] <stdin> SuperUserDO :)
[11:06] <nate_> yep i know about the beryl repo's
[11:06] <ForgeAus> do? as in the english word do (ie do this do that?)
[11:06] <rjian> @update kubuntu
[11:06] <rjian> hmm
[11:07] <ForgeAus> so instead of being sudo like how you say pseudo, its sudo as in soodoo!...
[11:07] <rjian> wats the command on the bot?
[11:07] <nate_> i could never get beryl to work indapper, somone in here suggested using edgy, so here i am, ive update/upgraded, now where do i go?
[11:07] <stdin> ForgeAus: yep "do" as in "let's do it"
[11:07] <nate_> is this safve to use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[11:08] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl << in that order
[11:09] <nate_> i breifly read somewhere i dont need xgl with edgy and nvidia?
[11:09] <stdin> nate_: I theink it depends where you got the driver from
[11:10] <nate_> i havnt downloaded any driver yet
[11:10] <ForgeAus> xgl or um agx orwhatever the other tla is
[11:10] <ForgeAus> edgy does have something inbuilt but its not xgl or something...
[11:10] <nate_> the only sucess with my card ive had is if i download the driver using the envy script (this is in dapper) nvidia-glx dud
[11:10] <stdin> nate_: I know the download from nvidia can use AIGLX, but I don't think the ubuntu package can use it yet
[11:10] <ForgeAus> ahh thats it AIGLX
[11:11] <ForgeAus> wait thats not a tla tho! my bad! rofl
[11:11] <nate_> nvidia-glx never worked for me
[11:11] <nate_> it installs, but nothing changes
[11:11] <stdin> nate_: you have to enable it
[11:11] <naser> hello
[11:11] <naser> i need help
[11:12] <naser> somebody can help me in kubuntu ???
[11:12] <stdin> don't know until you ask
[11:12] <ForgeAus> nasser, what about kubunutu?
[11:12] <mindspin> !ask
[11:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:12] <stdin> !someone
[11:12] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:12] <nate_> is there a 686smp kernel for edgy?
[11:13] <stdin> nate_: the -generic kernel is what you want
[11:13] <nate_> i have a core duo
[11:13] <nate_> laptop
[11:13] <stdin> nate_: yep, the -generic kernel id what you want
[11:13] <stdin> !generic
[11:13] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[11:13] <naser> i have kubuntu and want to install source packages
[11:14] <nate_> 686smp ripped the standard 386 in dapper
[11:14] <naser> all the packages need a lot of things like qt3 c++ gcc ...
[11:14] <naser> how i can install software in easy was ??
[11:14] <codyt> is either AMD or Intel "better" for running linux as a desktop?
[11:14] <stdin> nate_: the 686 and the smp kernels are all part of the -generic one now
[11:14] <stamen> !3gp
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <stamen> hi
[11:14] <stdin> !compile | naser
[11:14] <ubotu> naser: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:14] <stamen> who can recomend me a program which converts 3gp
[11:15] <ForgeAus> nasser easiest way is if its available under ADEPT to do it that way...
[11:15] <ForgeAus> it will fill in the dependancies and load them for you...
[11:15] <nate_> oh ok, so im already using it by default, or is there somthing where i have to select it?
[11:15] <stamen> to somthing playable in linux and win
[11:15] <nate_> is there a terminal command to see what kernel im using
[11:15] <stamen> and the program ocourse must be used in linux
[11:15] <ForgeAus> but if its a customized package, you may have to install dependancy bits, and then the package afterwards...
[11:15] <stdin> nate_: no, it configures itself automatically :)
[11:15] <stdin> nate_: uname -r
[11:15] <naser> thank you ForgeAus very mush
[11:16] <naser> and thank all
[11:16] <nate_> nate@NATIOUS:~$ uname -r
[11:16] <nate_> 2.6.17-10-generic
[11:16] <nate_> it seems to load slower at the start than in dapper
[11:17] <stdin> nate_: the -generic kernel is for any processor, 386, 686, k7, smp ....
[11:17] <nate_> are there any tweaks/mods i can do to speed things up?
[11:17] <ForgeAus> lol you could always go lunar linux and run through menu-driven kernel modifications! rofl
[11:17] <stdin> nate_: it detects the processor you have and configured itself automatically at boot
[11:17] <ForgeAus> but that takes a long time and asks questions that are quite.. um high-end and so many of them it gets annoying as hell
[11:18] <nate_> hrmm, well i guess ill give beryl ago now, have you got it working (stdin)
[11:19] <ForgeAus> beryl uses 2 keys I can't use from in VMware
[11:19] <ForgeAus> control+alt (together)
[11:19] <stdin> nate_: yeah, I have AIGLX and Beryl working great on an Intel chip :)
[11:19] <ForgeAus> I could always alter the keycombos tho
[11:19] <naser> all the ubuntu packages working in kubuntu ??
[11:19] <nate_> as in intel gmaXXXX or intel cpu?
[11:20] <naser> all the ubuntu packages working in kubuntu ????
[11:20] <stdin> nate_: Intel GPU (graphics chip)
[11:20] <mineur> naser: yes :)
[11:20] <stdin> naser: Kubuntu IS Ubuntu, just with KDE instead of Gnome, all the packages are the same
[11:20] <ForgeAus> naser for that sense ubuntu = kubuntu
[11:20] <mineur> ForgeAus: those keys are configurable
[11:21] <nate_> should i nvidia-glx in adpet, or use the envy script? or eventualy they are both the same?
[11:21] <ForgeAus> mineur yeah I know...
[11:21] <naser> an what the different things between edry and dapper and ... ??
[11:22] <naser> edgy**
[11:22] <ForgeAus> naser they're just versions
[11:22] <stdin> nate_: the ubuntu package will be updated when the kernel is updated, with the envy script you will have to recompile it everytime you get a kernel update, if you are comfortable with it, then use that, if not then go with the ubuntu package
[11:22] <ForgeAus> earlier there were ones like badger, now its dapper drake -> edgy eft -> fiesty herd...
[11:22] <mineur> and for the one concerned about beryl... I got Beryl with aiglx on an intel 855 graphical chip
[11:22] <administrator__> hello all
[11:23] <nate_> are there any diffecenes, do  they end up installing the same driver?
[11:23] <ForgeAus> its like windows codemanes like cairo whistler memphis
[11:23] <stdin> nate_: the envy one is more up-to-date
[11:23] <mineur> nate_: there's no difference, just a different window manager... but that's not the core of your OS :)
[11:23] <nate_> so what do you recommend then
[11:23] <mineur> just a matter of preference
[11:24] <mineur> look at some screenshots
[11:24] <mineur> see what you like best.. gnome or kde
[11:24] <mineur> personally I'm a kde fan :)
[11:24] <ForgeAus> me 2
[11:24] <ForgeAus> xfce is another option (ie xubuntu)
[11:24] <stdin> KDE RICKS!! :)
[11:24] <nate_> i like KDE, but ive made a move from osx86 and XP
[11:24] <stdin> ROCKS :P
[11:25] <ForgeAus> osx86 I have yet to get into
[11:25] <mineur> so I'd suggest kubuntu, especially if you're not experienced
[11:25] <ForgeAus> I'm looking towards it at some point tho
[11:25] <mineur> kde just looks better imho :d
[11:25] <ForgeAus> kubuntu is mostly easy and fun
[11:25] <stdin> I like to customise the c**p out of my desktop, so I go with KDE :P
[11:25] <mineur> true, everything worked out of the box here on my laptop
[11:25] <ForgeAus> yeah I agree mineur xfce is minimal but a bit less user-friendly
[11:26] <mineur> I used to have fluxbox on my debian
[11:26] <mineur> that's minimal hehe
[11:26] <ForgeAus> fluxbox, enlightenment, amiwm... they're all kewl
[11:26] <ForgeAus> in their own ways
[11:26] <naser> i want c compiler to make console software what i have to do ??
[11:26] <ForgeAus> IceWM is another
[11:26] <stdin> enlightenment is a kool WM
[11:26] <ForgeAus> yeah
[11:27] <ForgeAus> its kinda strange
[11:27] <ForgeAus> very configurable tho
[11:27] <stdin> naser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[11:27] <ForgeAus> currently I like how small/simple/useful amiwm is
[11:27] <ForgeAus> emulates the commodore Amiga workbench
[11:27] <codyt> I haven't really tried a distro that I didn't like.
[11:27] <mineur> naser: install the gcc packet and you're set
[11:27] <ForgeAus> WindowMaker is also ok
[11:27] <codyt> Then again, I've only tried LinSpire,  Gentoo, and Kubuntu.
[11:28] <stdin> mineur: what about make, g++, cpp ........?
[11:28] <ForgeAus> LinSpire is ok its much like kubuntu's kde interface
[11:28] <mineur> I started with redhat... 5.2 or 5.1 I think... stayed with it until 6.something then I went on to other distro's :d
[11:28] <ForgeAus> because it uses kde itself
[11:28] <snowrichard> had linspire pre-installed on a computer I got from walmart once.  Dumped it for Mandriva I think
[11:28] <ForgeAus> and both are based on debian
[11:28] <mineur> stdin: don't they come with the gcc packet?
[11:28] <codyt> Yeah. I'd probably prefer Kubuntu because LinSpire reminded me of Windows.
[11:29] <ForgeAus> but kubuntu is more a ubuntu debian than linspires debian
[11:29] <ForgeAus> lol I don't mind windows...
[11:29] <stdin> mineur: no, you just install build-essential it installs them all
[11:29] <ForgeAus> mandriva is one I want to try
[11:29] <ForgeAus> too big to d/l tho :(
[11:29] <snowrichard> you can do a net install
[11:29] <snowrichard> boot.iso
[11:29] <codyt> I don't mind windows when I'm the only one who uses it.
[11:29] <larson9999> ForgeAus: commodore! nothing wrong with that.  i'll check it out
[11:30] <codyt> in my absense, my family members and others tend to get plenty of spyware adware and etc
[11:30] <ForgeAus> larson9999 yeah nothing wrong with it but its pretty simplistic/featureless/unconfigurable
[11:30] <mineur> I'm stuck with windows on my desktop, for my master thesis, need to develop software for windows mobile :)
[11:30] <ForgeAus> not much you'd need to configure/change about it but still
[11:31] <mineur> but once that's done, kubuntu on my dekstop!
[11:31] <snowrichard> my family and friends call me to fix their windows systems.  One of my friends  had messed hers up again and had also scratched the windows disk I gave her.  I gave her debian this time. :)
[11:31] <ForgeAus> i wish I could make my zipslack a kubuntu install instead!
[11:31] <snowrichard> she's using Open Office and she can get on the net
[11:32] <codyt> My linux box outperforms my windows box, and my windows box has better specs.
[11:32] <snowrichard> and play her slot machine games so shes happy
[11:32] <ForgeAus> slot machine games?
[11:32] <codyt> But, the windows box has spyware and such that hogs resources.
[11:32] <ForgeAus> which ones does linux have?
[11:32] <snowrichard> its a java net app
[11:32] <ForgeAus> oh IC
[11:32] <snowrichard> freeslots.com or something
[11:32] <mineur> wish I could get my family to use linux.... would save me alot of time on the phone and such
[11:33] <ForgeAus> I might check it out sometime
[11:33] <ForgeAus> my mother will love you for it :)
[11:33] <mineur> btw, is there an alternative for karamba?
[11:33] <larson9999> mineur: i solved that problem by charging for windows support but not linux support(for family that is)
[11:33] <codyt> mineur, I agree with you there.  Been trying to get my mom to start using my box.
[11:33] <codyt> lol
[11:33] <rjian> administrator__: its me sevilla u can ask question here..
[11:34] <snowrichard> my mom installs her own hardware now
[11:34] <codyt> I wish I could say that.
[11:34] <administrator__> test
[11:34] <codyt> I can't even get my mom to install a PCI card.
[11:34] <ForgeAus> lol
[11:34] <stdin> my mother doesn't know what a mother board is :P
[11:34] <snowrichard> she's got a Doctorate in Education, she didn't just fall off the turnip truck.  She's retired now
[11:34] <mineur> I can't even hand a screwdriver to my mom to get the case open.... so not letting her touch anything :)
[11:35] <ForgeAus> someone should make a live CD of an enlightenment-based ubuntu... or a fluxbox ubuntu ... or a windowmaker ubuntu lol ...
[11:35] <ForgeAus> wubuntu?
[11:35] <larson9999> for hardware i just go there and watch them as i tell them what to do.  if they'd rather be the one watching, i charge for my time.  :)
[11:35] <mineur> lol
[11:35] <codyt> haha
[11:36] <ForgeAus> eubuntu sounds too confusing with edubuntu tho
[11:36] <codyt> I've tried enlightenment, but I don't care for the feeel
[11:36] <codyt> haven't tried windowmaker or fluxbox, though.
[11:37] <ForgeAus> it took me a long time to get used to enlightenment
[11:37] <codyt> Yeah, it's very different.
[11:37] <codyt> I did like some of it's features, but not the general feel.
[11:37] <ForgeAus> and even then I didn't have any apps installed that it seemed to notice... so all I was doing was configuring enlightenment itself
[11:37] <mineur> before fluxbox I did use enlightenment, but if I'd go back now, I'd have to learn everything again
[11:38] <larson9999> i like the look and feel of windows.  so i configure everything to look like it.  my xbuntu box looks pretty much like my kde box
[11:38] <mineur> and with kde I can let someone else chek their mail on my pc, it's a more familiar look
[11:38] <ForgeAus> kde can be very windows-like
[11:38] <codyt> Yeah.
[11:38] <ForgeAus> or very OSX-like! lol
[11:38] <naser> clear
[11:39] <mineur> at least you don't have to klick start to shut it down :p
[11:39] <larson9999> actually, it's more that i'm used to it.  i don't see the need to move stuff for the sake of moving it.
[11:39] <ForgeAus> I like how you can put the menus up the top of the screen like MacOS
[11:39] <ForgeAus> lol mine I always thought that was strange too
[11:39] <ForgeAus> also FILE menu's
[11:39] <ForgeAus> they should be application or program menus mostly
[11:39] <codyt> Meh, I'm picky about things using up space on my desktop.
[11:39] <larson9999> ForgeAus: and i like how you can leave them at the bottom :)
[11:40] <codyt> Have my panels set to be hidden.
[11:40] <ForgeAus> sure you SAVE or LOAD or OPEN a file... but you don't necessarily EXIT a file to close the program
[11:40] <one> why doesnt work ssl on this irc server ?
[11:40] <naser> i try to use klik software (to install software in one click) but i cant install any software :S
[11:40] <mineur> you're telling big secrets here one? :)
[11:40] <larson9999> funny, on the mainframe i like the command line at the top
[11:41] <one> mineur it is my fault or does the server doesnt support ssl ?
[11:41] <mineur> yay another Belgian guy :p
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> I cant seem to get libqt2-mt-dev to install
[11:41] <mineur> it's the server I guess
[11:41] <codyt> I keep my konsole borderless, streched across the bottom of the screen just above my main panel
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> keeps running me around in circles
[11:41] <pip`> Belgium ROCKS
[11:41] <naser>  i try to use klik software (to install software in one click) but i cant install any software :S
[11:41] <naser> how can i install it ??
[11:41] <one> hehe
[11:41] <mineur> sometimes :)
[11:42] <stamen> !hlurm
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hlurm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <stamen> what was the program for console to see the network badth
[11:42] <Linux_Galore> apt keeps complaining about mesa libs then I look at the libs and the repo seems to have conflicts in file version
[11:42] <Linux_Galore> s
[11:44] <codyt> any recommended IRC clients aside from Konversation and XChat?
[11:45] <mineur> kopete?
[11:45] <one> gaim ?
[11:45] <larson9999> Linux_Galore: libqt2-mt-dev doesn't even show for me when i do apt-cache search libqt.  only 3 and 4
[11:45] <snowrichard> irssi
[11:45] <codyt> IRC-specific.
[11:45] <codyt> Ooo, i had forgotten about irssi
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> larson9999: libqt3-mt-dev  no one uses qt2 anymore
[11:46] <larson9999> Linux_Galore: actually only libqt3-mt-dev when i put in the mt
[11:46] <larson9999> linux_: oh, you said 2.
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> larson9999: yeah, but it then complains about mesa, If i look at mesa the dev package doesnt match the common package version
[11:47] <snowrichard> try updating your package list?
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> done all that, still getting package version conflicts
[11:47] <larson9999> Linux_Galore: it installed for me with no probs
[11:48] <larson9999> Linux_Galore: which mesa dev package?
[11:49] <mineur> I wish kopete would extend their dcop interface :(
[11:49] <Linux_Galore> good example libglu1-mesa  is  6.5.1-20060824   libglu1-mesa-dev is 6.5.1-20060817  they conflict for some reason, I cant get qt-mt-dev in because it cant get mesa to match up
[11:52] <larson9999> Linux_Galore: both of those packages are installed here, too.
[11:52] <Linux_Galore> I get libqt3-mt-dev: Depends libglimesa-dev   it makes no sense
[11:52] <Linux_Galore> sorry libg1imesa-dev
[11:52] <Linux_Galore> grr
[11:52] <Linux_Galore> sorry libg1mesa-dev
[11:53] <Linux_Galore> got that installed
[11:54] <Linux_Galore> larson9999: second mesa one wont install, spits the dummy
[11:55] <mineur> is there another msn client then amsn which offers the auto-message feature when someone messages me?
[11:55] <larson9999> time to make the doughnuts
[11:56] <mineur> I wanted to make it myself for kopete with a shellscript and dcop... but the dcop interface for kopete doesn't provide enough functionality :(
[11:56] <Linux_Galore> bloody kubuntu repo has a package conflict, ffs
[11:56] <Linux_Galore> if youy update the mesa packages make sure the bloody dev ones match
[11:58] <badth`> donuts??!
[11:59] <codyt> neat, a debian livecd for PS3
[12:02] <cico> jj
[12:04] <marion> hallo
[12:06] <naser> i install dpkg package (dpkg -i <package name.deb> how to delete this package ??
[12:06] <naser> ???
[12:07] <mineur> apt-get remove package
[12:08] <nate_> alrighty im back and yay i got it working
[12:08] <nate_> but it only works under 16colours? and its not as smooth as i was hoping :(, i mean i have a killer systems, is there some things im missing
[12:10] <ForgeAus> I can't wait till trillian goes astra!
[12:10] <ForgeAus> if/when it does that is
[12:10] <naser> the package name is limewire how to delete it /?
[12:10] <codyt> astra?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> there *may* be a linux port then
[12:10] <codyt> ohhh
[12:10] <codyt> Yeah.
[12:10] <codyt> I do like trillian, but it has some bugs.
[12:10] <nate_> alrighty i got beryl working, but its only working in 16colours, and dosnt seem as smooth as i was hoping this is on edgy using built in AIGXL
[12:10] <codyt> esp. with file transfer.
[12:11] <ForgeAus> most of that should be fixed for the astra release but you never know
[12:11] <ForgeAus> problem is its shareware (there might be a free vers but there WILL be a pay one too
[12:11] <codyt> or, in my ex's case, any time she pastes a link, it's broken into pieces, or is random characters.
[12:12] <codyt> Yeah.. I can't see myself paying so that I can use some pro-only skins.
[12:12] <codyt> that, and plugins, I think it was.
[12:13] <ForgeAus> the free version is ok, I just didn't like how it didn't support yahoo profiles thats all
[12:13] <ForgeAus> the pro version is much more lush I must admit but funtionally aside from plugins, nothing too far wrong with it
[12:13] <codyt> Nah, I like it.
[12:13] <ForgeAus> just some webcam/voice/file transfer stuff doesn't work depending on what network you conenct to
[12:13] <codyt> didn't pay for it, but I like it.
[12:14] <codyt> file transfer was the only thing I had trouble with, but I never really tried mic||cam.
[12:17] <crazy_bus> My KDE taskbar crashed and wont reopen.  I don't want to reboot and I was wondering what command I could type to load it again
[12:18] <ForgeAus> kicker?
[12:18] <ForgeAus> I think thats it
[12:18] <codyt> I think so.
[12:18] <ForgeAus> but no guarantees it wont crash again
[12:18] <crazy_bus> thanks it loaded
[12:18] <drarem> can i set up my kubuntu laptop to have a static IP?
[12:19] <ForgeAus> drarem probably
[12:19] <drarem> 192.168.xx.xx
[12:19] <ForgeAus> in system settings somewhere
[12:19] <ForgeAus> if theres no network settings its probably int eh advanced section you'll need administrator mode to CHANGE anything tho
[12:20] <mineur> of course drarem in system settings
[12:20] <tobi_> I want to copy a folder into another, but I am not the owner. Login as root is not allowed, any idea to handle this prob?
[12:20] <mineur> with sudo
[12:21] <codyt> if you had sudo access, otherwise you'd have to talk to the administrator.
[12:21] <codyt> have, not had.
[12:21] <tobi_> i can use sudo, but what is the command to copy a folder into another?
[12:22] <codyt> cp
[12:22] <stdin> cp -r directory otherdirectory
[12:22] <codyt> er, yeah.
[12:22] <tobi_> thx
[12:23] <naser> i have a lot of dpkg files and hard to install it-how i can install it automatic ??
[12:23] <codyt> use your manpages when you can.    "man -k copy" would search for commands that have "copy" in the description.
[12:24] <stdin> naser: if they are all in 1 directory, you can do this "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[12:24] <tobi_> codyt: i will , thx
[12:24] <codyt> np
[12:24] <tobias_> what is jack lib?
[12:24] <tobias_> and why does wine wine about it and say my soundcard sucks and I should install jack lib?
[12:24] <tobias_> :)
[12:25] <naudy> hello
[12:25] <tobias_> hello
[12:25] <tobias_> :)
[12:25] <naudy> :)
[12:25] <tobias_> oh Im in the wrong chan
[12:25] <tobias_> I joined #winehq
[12:25] <codyt> haha
[12:25] <codyt> (:
[12:25] <tobias_> but forgot to change the channel window
[12:26] <tobias_> :)
[12:26] <tobias_> I love kubuntu! I got heroes3 to work in wine, until it crashed and wined about jack lib
[12:26] <stdin> !find libjack
[12:26] <ubotu> Found: libjack0.100.0-0, libjack0.100.0-dev, libjackasyn-dev, libjackasyn0
[12:27] <codyt> stdin, where is that searching?
[12:27] <stdin> edgy probably
[12:27] <codyt> no jacklib in my apt-cache
[12:28] <stdin> codyt: libjack not jacklib :)
[12:28] <codyt> oh well.
[12:28] <codyt> er
[12:28] <codyt> libjack
[12:28] <codyt> yeah, I typed it correctly in konsole.
[12:28] <stdin> !info libjack0.100.0-0
[12:28] <ubotu> libjack0.100.0-0: JACK Audio Connection Kit (libraries). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.101.1-1 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 244 kB
[12:29] <stdin> it's in universe
[12:29] <codyt> hrm..
[12:29] <drarem> ..
[12:29] <naser> in konsole -i am in /home/user/Desktop - how can i go to /home/user ??
[12:29] <ForgeAus> cd ../user
[12:30] <ForgeAus> wait
[12:30] <ForgeAus> sorry
[12:30] <ForgeAus> cd ..
[12:30] <stdin> naser: "cd" will go to your home dir
[12:30] <stdin> naser: "cd .." will go one directory up
[12:30] <codyt> and to think I had been typing "cd ~"
[12:30] <ForgeAus> (I didn't realize Desktop was under /user/ besides its probably usr...
[12:30] <stdin> ~ = $HOME
[12:30] <codyt> yeah.
[12:31] <stdin> you can also do "cd $HOME" :P
[12:31] <ForgeAus> or cd ~
[12:31] <codyt> too much work.
[12:31] <Christoph_vW> hi
[12:31] <codyt> hi
[12:31] <ForgeAus> hey Chris :)
[12:31] <Christoph_vW> which kernel is kubuntu using?
[12:31] <Kabal> I've downloaded 7.04 herd2 but install icon on desktop won't work.. install is not started.. anyone know about this?
[12:31] <stdin> Christoph_vW: depends which version of kubuntu you install
[12:31] <Christoph_vW> I need a at least 2.6.18.2 or above
[12:32] <codyt> You can update thte kernel, as well.
[12:32] <codyt> the*
[12:32] <stdin> Kabal: #ubuntu+1 for feisty issues
[12:32] <Christoph_vW> no, I can not update when I can not install
[12:32] <Kabal> stdin: thanx
[12:32] <stdin> Edgy has 2.6.17, feisty is on 2.6.20 atm
[12:33] <ForgeAus> stdin just curious is there a diff between edgy and edgy eft?
[12:33] <ForgeAus> or is edgy just short for edgy eft?
[12:33] <stdin> ForgeAus: just shorter to type :)
[12:33] <Christoph_vW> 2.6.20 should support my hardware
[12:34] <stdin> like feisty is feisty fawn
[12:34] <codyt> hrm, edgy  universe is in my sources.list
[12:34] <stdin> dapper = dapper dreke
[12:34] <ForgeAus> fiesty fawn? I thought it was fiesty herd
[12:34] <stdin> etc....
[12:34] <codyt> but no libjack
[12:34] <stdin> ForgeAus: herd is the code for the alphas
[12:34] <ForgeAus> at first I thought herd had something to do with hurd!
[12:35] <stdin> ForgeAus: the two words always start with the same letter :)
[12:35] <ForgeAus> yeah in dapper drake and edgy eft they do
[12:35] <ForgeAus> so is there going to be a beta of feisty? the release will be fawn?
[12:36] <stdin> Feisty Fawn is the full name of Feisty
[12:36] <codyt> hrm, in my sources.list there's one line that says "edgy main restricted" and another that's "edgy universe"
[12:36] <codyt> Should the universe be with the other one?
[12:37] <ForgeAus> you can add multiverse to it too codyt if you want
[12:37] <stdin> !repos
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> codyt: you can merge them by making it   edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[12:37] <codyt> but it isn't necessary?
[12:37] <ForgeAus> no not necessary
[12:38] <codyt> hrm.
[12:38] <codyt> Dunno why it's not finding libjack, then.
[12:38] <codyt> if libjack was in universe.
[12:38] <ForgeAus> the only necessary bit is the deb reposurl and one of main restricted universe multiverse after it
[12:38] <ForgeAus> they can be on separate lines or the same one... doesnt matter
[12:38] <ForgeAus> debsrc is an option too..
[12:39] <codyt> Yeah.
[12:39] <eross> can i disable the touchpad on my laptop
[12:39] <eross> or reduce the sensitivity
[12:39] <ForgeAus> eross that may depend on the laptop you have? I'm not sure
[12:40] <Linux_Galore> codyt: ok there are 5 seperate core directories   edgy,  edgy-updates, edgy-backports, edgy-proposed, edgy-security , each on has a sub section called  main restricted universe multivers   so you should have 5 lines
[12:40] <eross> gateway
[12:40] <ForgeAus> edgy proposed? I didn't know about that one
[12:40] <eross> 7320
[12:41] <eross> xorg.conf file?
[12:41] <stdin> you don't need proposed, and it's not always used on releases, only on development versions
[12:41] <Christoph_vW> I only found one single mirror for feisty... and it is slow as hell
[12:41] <ForgeAus> hmmm is synaptic (not the package manager) something to do with touchpads?
[12:41] <Linux_Galore> multiverse*
[12:41] <stdin> Christoph_vW: ALL the ubuntu mirrors have feisty on them
[12:41] <Christoph_vW> ForgeAus: yes
[12:42] <eross> i see a synaptics touchpad, do i just comment out the entire block?
[12:42] <ForgeAus> maybe eross would benefit from it...
[12:42] <ForgeAus> eross I suggest you read it before you comment it out
[12:43] <ForgeAus> or better yet go into system settings and see if theres input device configuration in there (does the touchpad sensitivity equate to mouse sensitivity? you may be able to manage it there)
[12:43] <Linux_Galore> I have two extra lines that i usually add   deb  http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu    edgy-commercial  main    and    deb  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/   edgy  free  none-free
[12:44] <ForgeAus> medibuntu?
[12:44] <Christoph_vW> as far as I can see only the US mirror has feisty
[12:44] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: not so legal codecs
[12:44] <stdin> Christoph_vW: every ubuntu mirror has feisty, all of them
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[12:45] <ForgeAus> vlc gives you wmv codecks right?
[12:45] <ForgeAus> grr codecs
[12:45] <ForgeAus> damn typos
[12:45] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: no thats win32codecs
[12:45] <stdin> w32codecs provides wmv
[12:46] <ForgeAus> hmmm I had to install vlc for it to work
[12:46] <stdin> Kaffeine works with w32codecs
[12:46] <Christoph_vW> stdin: found in on the UK mirrow too - it is at least 8 times faster - but still slow
[12:46] <ForgeAus> I tried that... didn't work for some reason
[12:46] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: usually if you have xine  xine-extracodecs  and mplayer and vlc installed you should be able to play just about anything
[12:47] <ForgeAus> Linux I do have all them
[12:47] <ForgeAus> everything works now
[12:47] <ForgeAus> that I've tried
[12:47] <stdin> Christoph_vW: trust me here, all the mirrors have it, they all just sync with the main ubuntu one
[12:47] <codyt> I just unstalled the mplayer's "all-in-one" package.
[12:47] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: only idiots use windows codecs in video rips
[12:47] <ForgeAus> I went to a site that had a relatively new version wmv file I wanted to see
[12:48] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: they are usually biger than xvid and lower res because it uses so cpu resources
[12:48] <Linux_Galore> so much*
[12:48] <ForgeAus> well I can always convert them if I want to d/l or something
[12:48] <ForgeAus> but all I wanted to do was view
[12:48] <ForgeAus> its not upt o me WHAT codec they choose to encode it with
[12:48] <ForgeAus> I just have to have the appropriate one to view it
[12:48] <codyt> and so many do use wmv.
[12:49] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: I swap stuff with friends and none of them have windows files
[12:49] <Linux_Galore> codyt: never seen a wmv file yet at a swap meet
[12:49] <codyt> that's good
[12:49] <ForgeAus> I agree its good!
[12:50] <codyt> but videos online are often in wmv
[12:50] <Linux_Galore> codyt: got tons of stuff not one with wmv and no one has given me a wmv file in 6 years
[12:50] <ForgeAus> avi wmv mov avi and asf are formats I've come across commonly
[12:50] <Linux_Galore> codyt: nope, mostly avi
[12:50] <ForgeAus> of course divx is implied in there somewhere I'm sure
[12:50] <Linux_Galore> avi,mp4,mkv  wmv is for nubes
[12:50] <codyt> hah
[12:50] <codyt> a
[12:51] <codyt> I see more of mp(e)g than anything
[12:51] <codyt> avi seconds that.
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> mkv is turning up allot lately
[12:51] <codyt> not one I'm familiar with.
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> its used for anime
[12:52] <codyt> then again, I don't do a whole lot with video, seeing how I have a poor connection.
[12:52] <ForgeAus> oh yeah I forgot mpg/mpeg
[12:52] <ForgeAus> I havn't heard of mkv till now
[12:52] <ForgeAus> is that like a cbz cbr -like format for vids?
[12:52] <codyt> I'd like to find a good resource for OGG files.
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> codyt: wmv files are larger than most other file formats, so if you have dial up its a crap format to use
[12:53] <ForgeAus> LG sounds right
[12:53] <codyt> That may be true, but there aren't always options.
[12:53] <ForgeAus> I'm no fan of wmv
[12:53] <ForgeAus> I just needed it for some vids thats all
[12:53] <codyt> Oh, agreed.
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> codyt: dont laugh, most games use ogg for sound these days to avoid license costs
[12:53] <ForgeAus> cbz and cbr are basically just zip and rar files just for comic books
[12:53] <codyt> yeah.
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> ogg = free
[12:53] <codyt> Yep.<3
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> mp3 = licensed
[12:54] <ForgeAus> is mkv a mpeg or divx or avi or something thats just for anime?
[12:54] <codyt> ogg sounds better for ripped sound, as well.
[12:54] <Linux_Galore> ForgeAus: no you get lots of movies that are avi
[12:54] <codyt> have all my CDs on my hard drive.
[12:55] <Linux_Galore> I would say 80% of my stuff now is xvid.avi now
[12:55] <Christoph_vW> btw. is multimonitor support working with nVidia cards on Linux?
[12:55] <codyt> Should be.
[12:55] <Christoph_vW> (two Geforce cards, 3 monitors)
[12:55] <Linux_Galore> Christoph_vW: yes, bit fidly though
[12:55] <andreasw> depends on the bitrate
[12:56] <andreasw> even mp3s can sound transparent if you set the bitrate high enough
[12:56] <codyt> Yeah.
[12:56] <codyt> That is true.
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> andreasw: not always, Ive seen people rip 192k that sound like rubbish because the system didnt have enough resources
[12:56] <andreasw> But I also prefer ogg because I have a portable player which supports ogg vorbis so there is no reason to stay with mp3
[12:56] <codyt> ogg's still free
[12:57] <andreasw> Linux_Galore: for lame you need 254kb to make it sound transparent
[12:57] <codyt> mp3s available for download are often 128kb
[12:57] <Linux_Galore> yeah, 128k is total rubbish
[12:57] <Linux_Galore> people who pay for it are fools
[12:57] <codyt> plenty of artifacts.
[12:57] <codyt> haha
[12:57] <codyt> Well
[12:57] <codyt> A lot of people can't tell the difference.
[12:58] <codyt> I got use to CD quality, though.  So I can't stand 128kbs mp3s.
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> codyt: Ive done that test and they "can", depends on what your using to play the stuff
[12:58] <codyt> let me rephrase that: Most people I've talked to say they can't tell the difference.
[12:59] <codyt> my brother, on the other hand, who has a good ear for music, hates mp3s.
[12:59] <codyt> He'd rather use 52MB .wav files.
[12:59] <andreasw> It depends on the speakers or headphones if they here a difference or not
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> codyt: get a decent 7.1 system with good speakers and play 320k and 128k rips of the same song, trust me the difference is like apples and oranges
[12:59] <codyt> which he does, but that's just because I haven't got him using FLAC or OGg yet.
[01:00] <codyt> Linux_Galore, I have no trouble telling the difference with my $120 headphones.
[01:00] <andreasw> The question is do I always need highest quality?
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> codyt: I cant stand 128k its sounds flat to me
[01:00] <codyt> yeah.
[01:00] <andreasw> when I run I don't need high quality
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> 160 and Im so so 192k and Im fine
[01:01] <fr0sted> hello. how can i check if kubuntu does support my processors hyper threading ?
[01:01] <codyt> I'm a guitarist, and sound quality is everything to me.
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> 320k and Im in heaven
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> codyt: are you tone sensitive, ie you cant stand sitting there with a speaker not setup properly
[01:02] <crazy_bus> I downloaded a .swf file and for some reason I can't play it.  Can anyone help me watch it?
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> when they send me to hell I will spend eternity in front of a Walmart stereo
[01:02] <codyt> more than likely, but I haven't had a lot of experience with that.
[01:02] <codyt> hahaha
[01:03] <andreasw> fr0sted: well you have to activate it via a boot parameter
[01:03] <andreasw> fr0sted: do you use edgy oder dapper?
[01:03] <fr0sted> edgy is 6.10 ? (6.10 is what i use)
[01:03] <andreasw> yep
[01:03] <andreasw> you need a smp kernel too
[01:04] <andreasw> thats the generic one in edgy
[01:04] <PhibreOptix> Hi guys
[01:04] <PhibreOptix> Anybody know why my ubuntu keeps freezing when I leave it idle?
[01:04] <andreasw> fr0sted: and you have to put ht=on to the boot options
[01:04] <codyt> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:04] <codyt> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:05] <fr0sted> andreasw,  good question, is there a file that i have to edit ?
[01:06] <andreasw> fr0sted: yes /boot/grub/menu.lst there you have to find the line that looks like kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash
[01:06] <andreasw> fr0sted: hda5 could be something else for you
[01:07] <fr0sted> yes got it
[01:07] <andreasw> fr0sted: than you append ht=on
[01:07] <fr0sted> and on the same line with that i add ht=on
[01:07] <andreasw> fr0sted: behind splash
[01:07] <fr0sted> okie dokie
[01:07] <andreasw> yes
[01:07] <andreasw> Do you have more kernel versions than the generic one?
[01:07] <fr0sted> hold on, i will tell u now :)
[01:08] <fr0sted> although i dont think so cause thats whta my grub shows , generic only
[01:08] <andreasw> ok
[01:08] <andreasw> than you can try your new config by rebooting
[01:08] <andreasw> and if things go wrong just boot in safe mode
[01:08] <fr0sted> no its the generic
[01:09] <andreasw> ok perfect
[01:09] <fr0sted> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic , root            (hd1,0) ,kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet splash
[01:09] <fr0sted> well then there is recovery mode. but thats not what we need
[01:10] <andreasw> yes that is the right kernel
[01:10] <andreasw> now you only need the ht=on behind splash
[01:10] <fr0sted> did put it
[01:10] <fr0sted> next restart will show
[01:11] <andreasw> ok hopefully we will see us again in a view seconds ^^
[01:11] <fr0sted> will i see in the proccess table app , like 2 cpus running ?
[01:11] <fr0sted> ehehehe :) i will reboot later .
[01:11] <andreasw> I have no idea I don't have a hyperthreading cpu
[01:11] <fr0sted> ok:)
[01:12] <andreasw> I am a poor student with an athlon-xp 2800+ ^^
[01:12] <PhibreOptix> Anybody know why my ubuntu keeps freezing when I leave it idle?
[01:12] <intelikey> what would a cdrecord command look like to add a second session to a cdr ?
[01:13] <andreasw> PhibreOptix: Sorry I have no idea. Did you check your memory with memtest86+ so we can except a hardware defect
[01:13] <codyt> Perhaps a bad screen saver?
[01:14] <intelikey> PhibreOptix check    ps -A x     i have see a bug that respawns something repetedly  "run away process"
[01:15] <andreasw> or maybe powermanagement ;)
[01:15] <codyt> making fun?
[01:15] <PhibreOptix> andreasw: Yes I did memtest it was fine
[01:16] <andreasw> PhibreOptix: hmm do you know whether strg + alt + f1 works to change to the console
[01:16] <andreasw> PhibreOptix: just want to find out if only the GUI hangs or the hole operating system
[01:16] <codyt> strg?
[01:16] <codyt> hrm.
[01:16] <andreasw> arg ctrl ^^
[01:16] <andreasw> in german its called strg ;)
[01:17] <codyt> Ah.
[01:17] <PhibreOptix> andreasw: It goes, and then when I type in my username to login, it freezes there aswell before asking for the password
[01:17] <antonio_> ciao qualcuno usa moblock?
[01:17] <naser> my Sound Card was working 100% but now i cant play music in my system :S
[01:17] <naser> how i repire this problem ?
[01:17] <andreasw> PhibreOptix: could you find anything in the logs eg /var/log/messages
[01:18] <andreasw> !it | antonio_
[01:18] <ubotu> antonio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:19] <naser> my Sound Card was working 100% but now i cant play music in my system :S
[01:19] <naser> what to do ?
[01:19] <andreasw> can you use the mixer?
[01:19] <naser> yes
[01:20] <andreasw> naser: are master and pcm unmuted?
[01:20] <naser> i dont understand :pcm
[01:20] <naser> what mean pcm
[01:21] <andreasw> its for normal sound playback
[01:21] <andreasw> open the mixer and you will see it
[01:21] <naser> yes
[01:21] <crazy_bus> I've downloaded a .swf which for some reason wont convert to theora.  What is a good player to watch it in?
[01:21] <andreasw> naser: So both are unmuted?
[01:21] <naser> yeds
[01:22] <naser> yes *
[01:22] <andreasw> naser: Since when do you have the problem?
[01:22] <codyt> crazy_bus, linux.softpedia.com might have an SWF player listed
[01:22] <PhibreOptix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1932/   That's what happens each time before it freezes when it's idle
[01:22] <naser> whe i try to play song in xmms or in any playback
[01:22] <naser> i see this message :
[01:23] <PhibreOptix> crazy_bus: You could just watch it locally through firefox
[01:23] <naser> plaease check that :your soundcard is configured properly you have to correct
[01:23] <simon__> is there any way to recive files with kopete?
[01:23] <naser> output plugin selected
[01:23] <simon__> i just get an error
[01:23] <simon__> k
[01:23] <andreasw> naser: does sound in amarok work?
[01:23] <naser> No other program is blocked the soundcard
[01:23] <naser> xmms -*
[01:25] <Synthetic_420> ok, can someone help me please?
[01:25] <naser> no not amarok it's xmms
[01:26] <codyt> we can try
[01:26] <Synthetic_420> i have ubuntu, but I tried to upgrade to kde
[01:26] <Synthetic_420> i installed all packages required
[01:26] <andreasw> naser: yes but test it with amarok whether it works there
[01:26] <Synthetic_420> that is with KDE tag
[01:26] <andreasw> naser: or try to use another output plugin in xmms like artsdsp
[01:26] <naser> i dont have sound not only in xmms but in all the system
[01:27] <Synthetic_420> and when it starts, the splash screen says Kubntu
[01:27] <Synthetic_420> but, it's obviously still gnome
[01:27] <Synthetic_420> lil help plz, gettin sick of gnome
[01:27] <PhibreOptix> Synthetic_420: At the login screen, there is an option to change which display manager to use, are you sure that you ticket KDE instead?
[01:28] <codyt> when you're logging in, under "menu" it should have "session type"  see if you can select KDE from there
[01:28] <Synthetic_420> lemme see *swiches session*
[01:29] <andreasw> naser: yes but it is strange that you can use the mixer but don't have sound
[01:29] <Synthetic_420> oh, wait, ugh I hate gnome
[01:29] <Synthetic_420> brb
[01:30] <codyt> might be possible that there is a program running in the background that's locking the sound?
[01:30] <codyt> one that didn't terminate properly.
[01:31] <intelikey> don't try that  at home  6
[01:31] <codyt> :)
[01:31] <intelikey> but killall blah   is not so bad
[01:31] <codyt> nah.
[01:32] <codyt> listing the processes first might help.
[01:32] <intelikey> no need
[01:32] <intelikey> killall artsd
[01:32] <intelikey> :)
[01:32] <codyt> might not be artsd, though.
[01:33] <Christoph_vW> yay... feisty detected my DVD drive
[01:33] <intelikey> true.  but if it's an app i bet it's using arts        "of course i could loose that bet"
[01:33] <Christoph_vW> and my NIC too :)
[01:33] <codyt> good point.
[01:34] <intelikey> but kill -9 -1 will get it    lol  >:] 
[01:34] <codyt> -9 -1?
[01:34] <stdin> so will shutdown -r now
[01:34] <codyt> haha
[01:35] <intelikey> yeah but i don't like to reboot
[01:35] <stdin> init 1 then
[01:35] <Christoph_vW> but it did not detected my RAID set...
[01:35] <laz> codyt: brilliant, thank you
[01:35] <intelikey> killall5
[01:35] <codyt> what'd I do?
[01:35] <Synthetic420> lol
[01:35] <Synthetic420> codyt: brilliant, thank you
[01:35] <codyt> oh
[01:36] <Synthetic420> can't beleive it was that simple
[01:36] <Synthetic420> are there any other DEs that ubuntu supports?
[01:36] <codyt> fluxbox, enlightenment, windowmaker
[01:36] <codyt> something along those lines.
[01:37] <Synthetic420> which do you reccomend for a KDE fan?
[01:37] <codyt> KDE.
[01:37] <Synthetic420> i'm trying to explore linux
[01:37] <Synthetic420> been too strict windwos
[01:37] <intelikey> other than what ?    blackbox fluxbox kde icewm fvwm fvwm85 xfce4 twm 'nome ....   other than what ?
[01:37] <codyt> I've used gnome, kde and enlightentment.
[01:38] <codyt> yeah.. there are a few.
[01:38] <codyt> Forgot about blackbox, not famliar with most of the others.
[01:38] <intelikey> list was not exhostive btw
[01:38] <Synthetic420> ok, lemme ask this, which has good looks, performance, software, wireless support, and battery support?
[01:38] <andreasw> a little bit offtopic but does someone know an open source shop software?
[01:38] <Synthetic420> * good battery support
[01:38] <codyt> Synthetic420, you might just want to look at screenshots of the various window managers
[01:39] <Synthetic420> ok
[01:39] <Christoph_vW> how can I install on a RAID-0?
[01:39] <Synthetic420> thx for the help
[01:39] <codyt> Most of the ones I've looked at, I prefered the look of KDE.
[01:39] <stdin> Christoph_vW: I think you need to alternate CD for that
[01:39] <Christoph_vW> I have it
[01:39] <Synthetic420> codyt: one last question, are they all supported on PPC also?  I'm runnin on an iBook
[01:40] <codyt> that I'm not sure of.
[01:40] <drarem> sexcess!!!    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143095
[01:40] <Christoph_vW> but it displays SCSI1 and SCSI2 in partioning dialog
[01:40] <Christoph_vW> instead of the Array
[01:40] <drarem> synclient TouchpadOff=1
[01:40] <Synthetic420> alright, well thanks, I'll take a look and report if i like any
[01:40] <codyt> alright. (:
[01:40] <intelikey> anyone burn cd's from the commandline ?
[01:41] <codyt> can't say that I have.
[01:42] <intelikey> was wondering if there was anything i over looked here...
[01:42] <intelikey> cdrecord -tao -multi -waiti -eject dev=0,4,0  /dev/scd0  -data
[01:42] <jbasilio> anyone know technical details behind how kubuntu mounts removable media?  i've been tracking it like an ioslave but it doesn't appear to use this code
[01:42] <Christoph_vW> I am using ICH8R (Intel Matrix RAID) in RAID-0 mode
[01:42] <stdin> Christoph_vW: never installed on raid, but found  this http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[01:43] <Christoph_vW> doesn't help here :(
[01:43] <codyt> Man, I wish I had the money to have a computer with RAID and such.
[01:44] <codyt> two GeForce cards
[01:44] <codyt> 3 monitors
[01:44] <codyt> although, I am grateful to have the computer that I do have.
[01:44] <SoulKeeper_p> hi all
[01:44] <codyt> My brother's computer was put together with a bunch of old parts, and barely runs Win98
[01:45] <Christoph_vW> codyt: I need to work with it - now I have a fast system - but no gcc...
[01:45] <codyt> I'd really hate to have no gcc...
[01:45] <Christoph_vW> The only system I managed to install on it was Windows Vista x64 so far - but gcc isn't working on Vista
[01:46] <codyt> I probably won't even touch a Vista system for a year or so.
[01:46] <dannybuntu> whats with the vista thing anyway?
[01:46] <codyt> Mom'll still be using XP (or hopefully linux), and I'll be using my Kubuntu
[01:47] <dannybuntu> i mean vista is ridiculously expensive
[01:47] <intelikey> codyt "My brother's computer was put together with a bunch of old parts,"   this one was too.   and as for the "barely runs Win98"   hehhe it'll run on this box but why would i ?     :)
[01:47] <jbasilio> codyt: vista is pretty nice actually.  a little weird at first but i've been running media center on it with another PC and it never goes down (don't stress it too much)
[01:48] <jbasilio> codyt: raid is easy to setup within linux .. software raid that is.  maybe "easy" is a bit of an overstatement but it doesn't cost anything except the drive
[01:48] <codyt> intelikey: I tried to boot up my LiveCDs on it, but I don't think his BIOS supports boot-from CD
[01:48] <intelikey> :)
[01:48] <dannybuntu> codyt: now that is old
[01:48] <codyt> haha
[01:48] <intelikey> that's what floppys are for
[01:48] <dannybuntu> codyt: boot from floppy?
[01:48] <dannybuntu> lol
[01:49] <codyt> That was going to be my next project.
[01:49] <codyt> Didn't have the resources available at the time, had just got back home from FL, and all my stuff was still packed in bags.
[01:49] <intelikey> all you need is the kernel and initrd.img on the floppy and a syslinux "chainloader"
[01:50] <intelikey> ah wait.  initrd.img on a floppy    that's right ubuntu made that impossable
[01:50] <codyt> yeah, but I wanted a graphical environment for him to use.
[01:50] <intelikey> the initrd is like 4.5m uncompressed
[01:51] <codyt> Once I manage to get a job, and save up some money
[01:51] <codyt> I'll build a new computer for myself, and give him this computer
[01:51] <intelikey> you'd need somebody else's kernel.  can't use a ubuntu kernel and boot from a floppy.
[01:51] <Christoph_vW> I just found a thread in debian forums about Intel RAID - the only answer was: use Linux software RAID instead
[01:51] <Christoph_vW> but then I can not dual boot with Windows anymore
[01:52] <codyt> I have unpatched kernel sources.
[01:52] <drarem> I need to format a harddrive with linux and send it to my brother - his went up in smoke - should I send him 6.06 or is 6.10 stable enough
[01:52] <codyt> From when I updated my Gentoo to 2.6.17
[01:52] <codyt> back then, I didn't have internet on this box
[01:52] <codyt> had to move everything with CDRWs.
[01:53] <intelikey> 2.6.17 and "didn't have internet on this box"     eeek
[01:53] <codyt> hahahaha
[01:54] <intelikey> that was like,  months ago
[01:54] <codyt> Yes.
[01:54] <waylandbill> high tech sneaker net. :-D
[01:54] <codyt> I couldn't get this box to connect even when it was running windows that had been preconfigured.
[01:54] <codyt> Never did resolve the issue.
[01:55] <codyt> I got this box for free, because my brother-in-law thought it was worthless
[01:55] <codyt> All the "experts" told him it had a bad powersource..
[01:55] <intelikey> good price...
[01:55] <codyt> But, the heatsink onthe processor just needed to be cleaned out.
[01:55] <codyt> Told him it sounded like it was getting overheated, but he didn't believe me.
[01:56] <codyt> Runs great now.
[01:56] <waylandbill> nothing's worthless. you don't know how much it's worth to have a stress reliever and a hammer.
[01:56] <mebsd> which one is better between dvd and cd version?
[01:56] <codyt> He had actually upgraded this a couple of times (outdated now)
[01:57] <Christoph_vW> the RAID controller should work with dmraid - but how do I use it?
[01:57] <vytautas> "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x42", is it fixable?
[01:57] <vytautas> edgy
[01:57] <codyt> AMD Athlon XP 1700, 512MB of RAM, 200GB HD space, and a GeForce FX 5200
[01:57] <intelikey> codyt computers are "outdated" when they reach the store...    if you try to keep up M$ will have you right where they want you.
[01:58] <codyt> I like that. (:
[01:58] <stdin> vytautas: no, it means you hardware doesn't support one of the openGL extentions, just ignore it
[01:58] <vytautas> sad :P
[01:58] <stdin> mebsd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-f7a1accd6e8e139773b9b334f964e209b6d9ff84
[01:59] <tibbar> !samba tibbar
[01:59] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[01:59] <stdin> vytautas: it's no big deal, I get that error
[01:59] <intelikey> see the folks at M$ believe they should collect $1000.00  from every individule on the planet each year.     i disagree.  they got my $244.95   and that's all they ever will get from me.
[01:59] <vytautas> ye, but i have err, "such thing" in blender
[01:59] <tibbar> !share
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <vytautas> its not very convenient
[01:59] <codyt> I can honestly say I've never given any money to M$
[02:00] <stdin> codyt: ever bought a PC with windows preinstalled ?
[02:00] <codyt> The XP box next to me is owned by my mother's boss, technically
[02:00] <codyt> nope
[02:00] <codyt> never bought a PC period.
[02:00] <waylandbill> I was forced to... I give it to compaq and compaq gives it to M$. :-/
[02:00] <intelikey> codyt you can't say you've been using computers for the last 27 years though can you ?
[02:01] <codyt> That'd be a neat trick.
[02:01] <codyt> I'm only 17
[02:02] <intelikey> ok 20 years from now if you still haven't given M$ anything then you have bragging rights.
[02:02] <codyt> with what I've learned, though, I won't buy a prebuilt PC unless it's a No-OS, or a preinstalled Linux box.
[02:02] <waylandbill> they make good input devices, but I bet that work is farmed out.
[02:02] <xsport>  !      !  ! =)
[02:03] <codyt> Even if it's preinstalled linux (probably red hat), I'll probably install the distro of my choice.
[02:03] <ForgeAus> cyalll trying zipslack outside of VMware
[02:03] <jbasilio> codyt: problem is some of the deals for hardware are cheap as hell ... i got a new computer for $300 a year ago ... cheaper than i could build it
[02:04] <intelikey> you want a peek at my hardware ?
[02:04] <jbasilio> codyt: they can lower their costs b/c of all the bundling and OEM stuff they get ... if you wipe and put linux you make out
[02:04] <jbasilio> codyt: if you buy norton, AOL, etc etc their suppliers make out
[02:04] <codyt> ick
[02:04] <jbasilio> codyt: either way it's cheap and dependable hardware and you can still wipe it and put linux on it (and MS still made $$ on the deal)
[02:05] <waylandbill> jbasilio: yup
[02:05] <codyt> I've put some PCs together on paper, and came up with some pretty good ones for low prices
[02:05] <codyt> Definately cheaper than what I've seen elsewhere.
[02:05] <jbasilio> $300 is pretty cheap!!
[02:05] <codyt> Not to mention I'm *very* picky, and get to customize it if I build it myself.
[02:06] <codyt> it is.
[02:06] <jbasilio> that's always true .. (can be selective)
[02:06] <intelikey> Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-27-386 | Distro: Debian/GNU none | CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor @ 351 Mhz | Mem usage: 16.5/249.2 MB (7%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(/dev/dev): 7.5/12.2 GB (61%) | Uptime: 15 hrs 29 mins 7 secs  |  Local Time: 07:06:29 CST | Connection:  Received: 0.0 KB,  packets Sent: 0.0 KB,  packets | Users: 0 | Load: 0.00
[02:06] <jbasilio> i used to be the same way.  but i've changed due to hardware reliability increasing
[02:06] <intelikey> $244 12 years ago ^
[02:06] <waylandbill> $500 for my laptop. I wasn't picky and it's all supported under linux... just had to wait a few months.
[02:07] <jbasilio> that's a great deal!  i'd love a laptop .. someday
[02:07] <codyt> That's one of the reasons I like the "open" idea so much is the power to change anything that bugs me.
[02:07] <waylandbill> custom built is hard to get low prices these days. not like it used to be
[02:07] <mebsd> which live cd is recommend to dl?
[02:07] <codyt> Hex editors and dissassemblers are no fun.
[02:07] <Christoph_vW> I always buy new hardware because I need the speed - and always get trouble with Linux :(
[02:08] <stdin> the kubuntu one
[02:08] <mebsd> there is herd 1 and 2
[02:08] <stdin> mebsd: you want a stable version, dapper or edgy
[02:08] <jbasilio> mebsd: where are you looking?
[02:08] <intelikey> !lts
[02:08] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[02:08] <intelikey> !dapper
[02:08] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[02:08] <intelikey> !edgy
[02:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:08] <mebsd> i want latest, most update version
[02:09] <PhibreOptix> !feisty
[02:09] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:09] <stdin> mebsd: you want edgy then
[02:09] <codyt> I like edgy.
[02:09] <mebsd> i want latest, updated, and stable
[02:09] <stdin> feisty is a development release and is NOT considered stable
[02:09] <PhibreOptix> I just wanted to know what it was
[02:09] <mebsd> where do i get edgy
[02:09] <dokteurping> how can i register on konversation
[02:10] <intelikey> "i want latest, updated, and stable"  don't ask for much do ya
[02:10] <stdin> mebsd: http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest
[02:10] <stdin> !register | dokteurping
[02:10] <ubotu> dokteurping: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:10] <codyt> (:
[02:10] <dannybuntu> hey guys - anybody know why installing nvidia drivers made the fonts annoying for most websites
[02:10] <codyt> I didn't have any problems like that.
[02:10] <waylandbill> incorrect dpi probably
[02:11] <dannybuntu> the fonts are not only small they are grey
[02:11] <intelikey> cause most websites are krap ?
[02:11] <dannybuntu> intelikey: other than that of course
[02:11] <codyt> I did have an issue where my nvidia card was causing my box to freeze randomly
[02:11] <intelikey> oh  i don't know then.
[02:11] <codyt> but I got that resolved.
[02:12] <mebsd> hope kubuntu work well with laptop wireless card?
[02:12] <intelikey> if you want to know how Krappy most web-sites are try w3m or lynx on them
[02:13] <intelikey> links2  but not in graphical mode
[02:13] <stdin> elinks
[02:13] <codyt> then try it on an "IE standard" site.
[02:13] <intelikey> yeah but not in -g
[02:13] <intelikey> yep
[02:14] <intelikey> ok it's time for my last rounds.
[02:14] <codyt> Although, I haven't had any problems with any sites in Fx, aside from a few specific microsoft sites.
[02:14] <intelikey> see y'all next time
[02:15] <codyt> see ya intelikey
[02:15] <dannybuntu> bye
[02:16] <codyt> dannybuntu, what browser are you using?
[02:17] <dannybuntu> firefox and swiftfox and konqueror
[02:17] <codyt> ah
[02:17] <codyt> never heard of swiftfox
[02:17] <dannybuntu> optimized build of firefox for your processor
[02:18] <mebsd> i use maxtron
[02:18] <codyt> Yeah,  I just noticed that.
[02:18] <waylandbill> wouldn't think it's the browser if it's only with the nvidia driver enabled. probably have to manually set DisplayDPI for X
[02:18] <codyt> "including Athlon XP"
[02:18] <dannybuntu> !maxtron
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maxtron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <dannybuntu> hey do you guys know of a good pda to use with kubuntu?
[02:20] <codyt> oo, a 1 second lag.
[02:21] <dannybuntu> 2 s 4 me
[02:21] <codyt> down to .5sec
[02:21] <stdin> 45ms here :)
[02:21] <codyt> not bad for being on dial up, and downloading.
[02:22] <stdin> went up to 150ms when downloading a CD image with 15 concurrent connections :D
[02:22] <codyt> I need to figure out what all issues the XP box has with booting linux.
[02:23] <dannybuntu> earthquake in taiwan really hit broadband hard here in the philippines
[02:23] <codyt> it crashes if I don't disable acpi, but even then I can't get it to completely load Kubuntu..
[02:23] <mebsd> earthquake in taiwan broke fibre in ocean
[02:24] <codyt> it's got a 2.7GHz processor with more RAM.. this computer has a 1.2GHz processor, I think.
[02:24] <codyt> Not that there will be an extreme difference.
[02:24] <stdin> my boot options = noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off
[02:24] <codyt> seriously?
[02:24] <dannybuntu> mebsd: yeah - good thing though - they'll prolly lay better cables
[02:24] <stdin> yep
[02:25] <codyt> I'll write that down and try it next time I feel like messing with that box,.
[02:25] <codyt> if it doesn't work, I'll come bug you guys. (:
[02:25] <stdin> without those options, I can't boot :P
[02:26] <codyt> with just the acpi=off, I can get to a very strange terminal
[02:26] <codyt> er
[02:26] <codyt> strange, as in the way it looks
[02:26] <codyt> and things aren't initialized properly.
[02:26] <stdin> I get a load of errors down the screen with just acpi=off
[02:27] <codyt> I get that without the acpi=off, then it restarts itself.
[02:27] <jabal> hello i want to try share desktop some one can share with me ???
[02:27] <stdin> !vnc
[02:27] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:28] <jabal> hello i want to try share desktop some one can share with me ???
[02:28] <dannybuntu> why would you want to do that?
[02:28] <stdin> jabal: look at the link ubotu posted
[02:29] <dannybuntu> darn that firefox bus error again
[02:32] <codyt> mm, sludge factory
[02:33] <dannybuntu> ewww
[02:33] <codyt> don't like Alice in Chains, eh?
[02:34] <dannybuntu> not really - just havent heard of em here
[02:34] <codyt> one of my favorite bands.
[02:34] <dannybuntu> what genre?
[02:34] <codyt> rock
[02:34] <codyt> probably others, but I just consider it to be rock
[02:35] <dannybuntu> ive mellowed down used to listen to metallica and nirvana
[02:35] <codyt> I like older Metallica and a lot of Nirvana.
[02:35] <dannybuntu> but i realized that when you have kids - they sound pretty much the same
[02:35] <dannybuntu> :)
[02:35] <Christoph_vW> looks like the "installing Linux on ICH8R problem" is gone...
[02:36] <codyt> I'm gonna hold my tongue..
[02:36] <dannybuntu> lol
[02:36] <Christoph_vW> I just got a msg from Intel Matrix controller that one hdd is faulty
[02:36] <waylandbill> dannybuntu: that's cause they are pretty much the same. ;-P
[02:37] <dannybuntu> heheheh
[02:37] <Christoph_vW> no, I don't have a RAID anymore...
[02:37] <Christoph_vW> now*
[02:37] <codyt> aside from being complety different.
[02:38] <waylandbill> they play music and smoke dope... pretty much the same. :-)
[02:38] <blue|palm> if i have messed up my xserver by choosing an incorrect driver, is there any way i can restore it
[02:38] <codyt> dope...
[02:38] <codyt> hrm.
[02:38] <dannybuntu> waylangbill: lol
[02:38] <Blaskowitz3> Hi, when I try to compile qt applications from source I keep getting a 'library qt-mt not found' error. However via locate I find /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.6.. and when I try getting libqt3-mt-dev through apt, it says libgl1-mesa-dev is a dependacy but is not going to be installed
[02:39] <waylandbill> bluepalm: put the old xorg.conf back or reconfigure the package and select a different driver.
[02:41] <waylandbill> Blaskowitz3: can you install libgl1-mesa-dev explicitly?
[02:43] <Blaskowitz3> doing that makes it complain about another dependancy, mesa-common-dev.. though doing that yields: libgl1-mesa-dev: Depends: mesa-common-dev (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed
[02:43] <Blaskowitz3> and that it is alread the newest version
[02:43] <Blaskowitz3> already*
[02:45] <waylandbill> what version you have selected for repos? 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 is the newest for me
[02:46] <Blaskowitz3> um sorry if I seem like a newb but how do I found that out?
[02:48] <codyt> hmmm
[02:48] <blue|palm> how do i get a copy of the old xorg.conf file? is there a backup from the default installation?
[02:50] <Valmarko> if i a proxy will internet be slower?
[02:50] <codyt> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[02:50] <Valmarko> -use
[02:50] <codyt> any ideas?
[02:51] <waylandbill> Blaskowitz3: did you change the sources.list or repositories?
[02:51] <blue|palm> codyt: I had the exact same prob
[02:51] <waylandbill> blue|palm: how did you change the driver before?
[02:51] <codyt> Did you manage to get it resolved?
[02:51] <codyt> (initramfs) is the next line
[02:51] <blue|palm> waylandbill: from within kde
[02:51] <codyt> and then input
[02:52] <blue|palm> codyt: yes
[02:52] <waylandbill> Valmarko: depends on the proxy. It's an extra step so it will be extra time for the step.
[02:52] <Blaskowitz3> uh I added a bunch of servers to the sources.list from the edgy wiki page
[02:52] <blue|palm> codyt: but everything is not 100% for me, sometimes it just freezes at the boot screen and other times it loads fine
[02:52] <waylandbill> blue|palm: using what program in kde
[02:52] <Valmarko> I heard that I can use a proxy from ubuntu servers
[02:53] <Valmarko> Can I?
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Blaskowitz3 you trying to upgrade to edgy?
[02:53] <blue|palm> waylandbill: using the system settings from the little k sign at the bottom
[02:53] <Blaskowitz3> I already have
[02:53] <codyt> blue|palm, don't happen to remember how you fixed it?
[02:53] <K-Ryan> Oh, then why did you say uh?
[02:53] <blue|palm> codyt: reinstall, and also making my ide drive( where i was installing kubuntu onto) a master instead of a slave
[02:54] <waylandbill> Blaskowitz3: one of the repos has the cvs version of a library that is newer than the requirements for your program.
[02:54] <waylandbill> you have to wait until a newer version comes out or use only repos that have that exact required version.
[02:55] <blue|palm> can anybody tell me how to get kubuntu to be able to use wpa wifi encryption
[02:55] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[02:55] <K-Ryan> !wifi
[02:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:55] <K-Ryan> Tried that yet?(Not saracastic)
[02:56] <blue|palm> no, thx
[02:56] <K-Ryan> No problem
[02:56] <waylandbill> blue|palm: I don't know if that backs up the xorg.conf. You can look. It's always a good idea to back it up manually if you think if could be messed up. if you use dpkg-reconfigure to reconfigure the x server configuration.
[02:56] <blue|palm> as in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:57] <waylandbill> right
[02:57] <Blaskowitz3> I see, so how do I choose repositories? I thought editing the sources.list was linking to reposes?
[02:57] <K-Ryan> It is
[02:57] <K-Ryan> But then you have to update them
[02:57] <blue|palm> has the adept graphical manager ever stopped working for anybody else? It just refuses to start
[02:57] <K-Ryan> You know, "sudo apt-get update"
[02:57] <K-Ryan> blue|palm
[02:57] <K-Ryan> !adeptfix
[02:58] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:59] <Blaskowitz3> oh right, I see.. well thanks for the help :)
[02:59] <blue|palm> thanks everyone
[02:59] <Valmarko> is there a way to hide my ip address ?
[03:00] <K-Ryan> No problem blue|palm
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Valmarko firewalls for proxy websites
[03:00] <K-Ryan> My favorite happens to be "http://www.boxofprox.com"
[03:00] <K-Ryan> I think it's .com
[03:00] <Valmarko> tanks
[03:00] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, should I of said "You're welcome?" or "TAKE COVER!"?
[03:01] <K-Ryan> *have said
[03:02] <Valmarko> :)
[03:02] <K-Ryan> =P
[03:03] <Balsamic_Chicken> is there a repository for the latest octave program? the one in regular repository is obsolete, and if no repo work, could someone tell me how to set    up octave by downloading its tar.bz2 file? thx alot
[03:04] <codyt> eh, reinstalling isn't an option
[03:04] <codyt> it's the LiveCD
[03:07] <afimark_> salut
[03:07] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[03:07] <Christoph_vW> I just installed kubuntu feisty - but now I can not login
[03:07] <Christoph_vW> I tried with the username and pass I entered in setup but I get login incorrect
[03:08] <K-Ryan> I had that problem with Ubuntu once, I had run out of free space
[03:08] <Christoph_vW> I installed on a 160GB hdd - this should be enough
[03:08] <K-Ryan> just making sure ;)
[03:09] <Christoph_vW> is there a default root pass? I don't remember setting it...
[03:09] <K-Ryan> I never encountered one of those but I've only upgraded once
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Did you reinstall or upgrade?
[03:09] <Christoph_vW> I did a fresh install
[03:09] <stdin> Christoph_vW: there is no root pass, boot in to rescue mode and reset your pass with "passwd [username] "
[03:10] <codyt> oh, you're back stdin
[03:11] <K-Ryan> I'm out, got work to do. See ya' later guys.
[03:11] <codyt> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <- I get this error on that machine.
[03:11] <codyt> this is when I'm trying to boot up the LiveCD with acpi turned off.
[03:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> How do i install LaTex, is it in the repos? i did a search in synaptic, returned a gazillion results but none is the stand alone latex, help pls, ty
[03:12] <codyt> ugh.. using windows on this other box.. man I'm glad I have linux on this one..
[03:12] <stdin> codyt: hmm, do you see the desktop, or just that error?
[03:13] <codyt> it goes into ash (a minimal shell)
[03:13] <codyt> don't even have a "shutdown" command, just have to kill the power.
[03:13] <stdin> you mean dash?
[03:13] <codyt> it said ash.
[03:13] <codyt> ubuntu's built in shell?
[03:14] <stdin> ubuntu LiveCD uses dash
[03:14] <Christoph_vW> stdin: the user Christoph doesn't seem to exist but I set a root password now
[03:14] <stdin> Christoph_vW: check in /etc/passwd for the user you made, it will have a UID of "1000"
[03:15] <codyt> dunno, but I'm certain that it said ash.
[03:15] <stdin> codyt: have you tried with the boot options I use? "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off"
[03:16] <codyt> Yes, actually.
[03:16] <codyt> that's what I was doing.
[03:16] <Christoph_vW> how do I properly reboot the system from the rescue console?
[03:16] <Christoph_vW> neither "reboot" nor "shutdown -h now" are working
[03:16] <stdin> Christoph_vW: why do you need to reboot?
[03:17] <stdin> Christoph_vW: just type "exit" and the system will boot normally
[03:17] <Christoph_vW> oh
[03:17] <stdin> and the reboot command is "shutdown -r now" :)
[03:18] <stdin> codyt: try the alternate CD, it's the one I always use, never had a problem with it
[03:18] <codyt> Well, that'll take about a week to download
[03:18] <codyt> I'll try my Gentoo LiveCD.
[03:18] <kkosmo> stdin
[03:18] <kkosmo> ?
[03:18] <yamama> how i can make my own ubuntu cd ??
[03:18] <stdin> kkosmo: yes?
[03:18] <kkosmo> stdin what command to do x server restart
[03:18] <kkosmo> ?
[03:19] <Christoph_vW> stdin: I still get login incorrect
[03:19] <Christoph_vW> even with the updated password
[03:19] <kkosmo> stdin you know the answer
[03:19] <stdin> kkosmo: the X server or the login screen ?
[03:19] <kkosmo> ?
[03:20] <stdin> Christoph_vW: what is the username you choose ?
[03:20] <kkosmo> when i click on ctrl+alt+backspace its do restart
[03:20] <kkosmo> how i do that in command
[03:20] <kkosmo> ?
[03:20] <Christoph_vW> stdin: in setup: Christoph
[03:20] <stdin> kkosmo: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[03:20] <codyt> gentoo uses lilo..
[03:20] <Christoph_vW> but I tried to login with root too
[03:20] <kkosmo> thanks
[03:20] <stdin> Christoph_vW: try with a lower case C
[03:21] <kkosmo> stdin
[03:21] <stdin> kkosmo
[03:21] <kkosmo> thats dont work
[03:21] <stdin> what's the error?
[03:21] <yamama> how i can make my own ubuntu cd ??
[03:21] <kkosmo> root@kosmo-desktop:/home/kosmo# /etc/init.d/kdm start
[03:21] <kkosmo> Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.
[03:21] <kkosmo> root@kosmo-desktop:/home/kosmo#
[03:21] <kkosmo> 
[03:21] <yamama> how i can make my own ubuntu cd ??(ubuntu but with my software and configured
[03:21] <stdin> yamama: take a look at http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[03:21] <stdin> yamama: and asking once is enough thanks
[03:22] <darkserver3> in wine
[03:22] <codyt> hrm.
[03:22] <stdin> kkosmo: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:22] <codyt> Don't think it's gonna boot
[03:22] <kkosmo> darkserver
[03:22] <darkserver3> hi
[03:22] <kkosmo> /j #winehq
[03:22] <kkosmo> for wine quistions
[03:22] <kkosmo> ok
[03:22] <codyt> "Ok, booting kernel" has been shown, followed by nothing else, for about 2 minutes now..
[03:22] <darkserver3> thanks...
[03:22] <darkserver3> well i was working int solaris...
[03:23] <darkserver3> but in think tha is the sam
[03:25] <voicu> hi, i'm not very good with networks and i have a problem with security. i have a simple router setup and i need some tips on protecting against attacks
[03:26] <voicu> i'm pretty sure i was attacked yesterday with that method when you ping the broadcast address
[03:27] <Christoph_vW> stdin: exit isn't working either
[03:27] <voicu> is my router the source of problems because i restarted in windows and the isp said the flood was gone
[03:27] <Christoph_vW> now I get "<_pSLsys_getkey: EIO error"
[03:27] <karmikaze> hrmmm
[03:27] <voicu> (i have a simple router setup with iptables)
[03:28] <voicu> i thought of taking this problem to #iptables but i wasn't sure what is the problem
[03:28] <voicu> anyone?
[03:29] <kkosmo> you dont know what your problem is
[03:29] <kkosmo> lol
[03:29] <Christoph_vW> and I get a "BIOS Bug" msg at startup and "Cannot allocate resource region 2 and 3 of device ...."
[03:29] <Valmarko> voicu, why dont you try to close ports you dont use. with guarddog, for example
[03:29] <voicu> well, i *think* it's because my router isn't setup right but i am not sure what are the other security risks, so...
[03:29] <yamama> i want software like (kazza,limewire,shareza...) but working in linux ?
[03:30] <stdin> !frostwire
[03:30] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:30] <voicu> Valmarko: would that protect me against the broadcast ping attack?
[03:30] <voicu> isn't ping required?
[03:31] <darkserver3> some know something about bmc???
[03:31] <Valmarko> I guess soo, but I'm a newbie soo... dont really know. Theres an excellent site where you can test vulnerabilities
[03:31] <voicu> do you know the address?
[03:32] <stdin> a ping attack is when you get pinged from multiple (usually 100s or 1000s) of IPs, a broadcast ping can't hurt you
[03:32] <Valmarko> http://www.grc.com/intro.htm
[03:32] <Christoph_vW> stdin: still no luck with login :(
[03:33] <stdin> Christoph_vW: you tried with "christoph" ?
[03:33] <Christoph_vW> yes
[03:33] <voicu> stdin, apparently because of what happened the wan was flooded and the network was really slow, and they cut me from the service
[03:33] <codyt> windows is weird..
[03:33] <codyt> Takes 3 seconds for the desktop's pop-up menu to load
[03:33] <kkosmo> !firewalls
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firewalls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <voicu> but when switching to windows the flood was gone
[03:33] <kkosmo> !firewall
[03:33] <codyt> but all of .1sec for the  taskmanger to completely load and display
[03:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:34] <stdin> voicu: just use something like firestarter, it will let you block pings if you want, and will let you use NAT
[03:34] <Valmarko> voicu, try the section shields up
[03:34] <voicu> hmm, ok
[03:34] <stdin> Christoph_vW: try making a new user, and logging in with that
[03:34] <stdin> Christoph_vW: "sudo adduser username"
[03:34] <yamama> thank you all
[03:34] <yamama> thanksssssssssssss
[03:35] <kkosmo> stdin
[03:35] <kkosmo> ?
[03:35] <yamama> i want to download java for my ubuntu i search but i find only bin file
[03:35] <stdin> !java | yamama
[03:35] <ubotu> yamama: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:35] <stdin> kkosmo: ?
[03:35] <gnarlie> !bci
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <gnarlie> cool
[03:36] <gnarlie> !fonts
[03:36] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:36] <kkosmo> stdin you know how to use
[03:36] <kkosmo> lkl
[03:36] <kkosmo> ?
[03:36] <kkosmo> !lkl |kosmo
[03:36] <ubotu> lkl: userspace keylogger for x86 architecture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)
[03:36] <stdin> never used it
[03:37] <kkosmo> ok more quistion
[03:37] <kkosmo> why that eror
[03:37] <kkosmo> coming
[03:37] <kkosmo> Unable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist
[03:37] <stdin> how did you install it ?
[03:37] <kkosmo> apt
[03:37] <gnarlie> any idea why font style is greyed out in apps (like Kate)?
[03:37] <gnarlie> can't select bold, italic etc.
[03:37] <stdin> try reinstalling it "sudo apt-get --reinstall install guarddog"
[03:38] <Christoph_vW> stdin: chfn: PAM auth failed
[03:38] <Christoph_vW> adduser returned error code 1
[03:38] <stdin> Christoph_vW: sounds like a botched install
[03:38] <kkosmo> agein
[03:39] <Christoph_vW> strange - I just installed it
[03:39] <kkosmo> stdin
[03:39] <kkosmo> what i need to do
[03:40] <kkosmo> its give me agein this error
[03:40] <gnarlie> http://ihku.org/~gnarlie/snapshot1.png
[03:40] <gnarlie> like that
[03:40] <stdin> kkosmo: I've never used guarddog, I've only used firestarter
[03:41] <kkosmo> ooo ok
[03:41] <Dr_willis> could just make that file.
[03:41] <voicu> ok, thanks people
[03:41] <Dr_willis> or perhaps ya need to start it as root? never used guarddog either
[03:41] <voicu> bye
[03:43] <kkosmo> stdin are you use ubuntu
[03:43] <kkosmo> ?
[03:43] <stdin> yeah, I use Kubuntu
[03:43] <kkosmo> firestarter
[03:44] <Balsamic_Chicken> in installing freemat (free matlab), it said there are two post-build steps i must perform, which adds freemat_path environment variable to my startup files that includes /home/username/share/FreeMat/MFiles, totally lost =) what does this mean, and where's my startup files, and how do i follow this instruction, thx so much =)
[03:47] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's qt, anyone
[03:47] <Balsamic_Chicken> thx
[03:48] <stdin> !qt
[03:48] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[03:49] <dannybuntu> its an abbreviation for cute
[03:49] <dannybuntu> like dannybuntu is qt
[03:49] <Balsamic_Chicken> where do i get qt4? it's required by freemat (matlab like program)
[03:49] <Balsamic_Chicken> ic, thx dannybuntu
[03:50] <dannybuntu> yw :)
[03:50] <Balsamic_Chicken> would u happen to know where i could get qt4?
[03:50] <stdin> libqt4-core libqt4-gui should do
[03:51] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin cool thx alot
[03:51] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin and hi again =)
[03:52] <stdin> heh, no problem :)
[03:52] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin would qt4 break anything that uses previous version?
[03:52] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: no, because you'll still have qt3 installed
[03:53] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin i have those qt4 files u mentioned installed already
[03:53] <stdin> there is also libqt4-qt3support
[03:53] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin and freemat was still complaining no qt4 there
[03:53] <stdin> !info libqt4-qt3support
[03:53] <ubotu> libqt4-qt3support: Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1198 kB, installed size 3048 kB
[03:53] <Balsamic_Chicken> gtg school lates everyone
[03:54] <Balsamic_Chicken> it's 7am, stupid school
[03:54] <yamama> how i can install xfce in kubuntu ??
[03:54] <yamama> or gnome
[03:54] <yamama> ??
[03:55] <stdin> install "xubuntu-desktop" for xfce and "ubuntu-desktop" for gnome
[03:56] <yamama> i know but how
[03:57] <stdin> in Adept
[03:57] <yamama> ok thank you
[03:57] <Christoph_vW> stdin: I reinstalled now
[03:57] <Christoph_vW> same problem...
[03:58] <stdin> what version are you installing ?
[03:58] <ajopaul_> have two sound cards, how do i make one of them default??
[03:58] <stdin> !sound
[03:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:58] <Christoph_vW> feisty
[03:58] <Dr_willis> ajopaul_,  ive always just disabled one in the bios.
[03:58] <stdin> Christoph_vW: well feisty isn't stable
[03:59] <Christoph_vW> but this is the only one I CAN install
[03:59] <stdin> Christoph_vW: why?
[03:59] <Christoph_vW> this is the only version which supports my hardware
[03:59] <ajopaul_> Dr_willis, hmm, need the other sometimes so i ruled out hardware disable
[03:59] <stdin> Christoph_vW: you may get more help in #ubuntu+1
[04:02] <emss> kubuntu-desktop in 6.10 seems rough
[04:02] <yamama> what is edubuntu ??
[04:02] <emss> not as polished as gnome
[04:02] <stdin> !edubuntu
[04:02] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[04:02] <Dr_willis> gnome is so polished - its as slippery as a bar of soap in places.. :)
[04:03] <stdin> you can change the desktop to look how you want it to
[04:03] <emss> well polished being, gnome in edgy seems well integrated but kde doesn't
[04:03] <Dr_willis> KDe has a good texture like the Hammer that always just feels right in your hand.  :)
[04:03] <emss> like if you click on a link in firefox it will use evince or whatever
[04:03] <emss> gnome 2.16 is buggy though :\
[04:03] <Dr_willis> I think there was a discussion of firefox and kde the toehr day in here.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> I belive the conclusion was that firefox dosent play nicely in some ways with kde. :)
[04:04] <dannybuntu> firefox = head ache
[04:04] <emss> I meant firefox seems better integrated with gnome than konqueror with kde
[04:04] <Dr_willis> I got gnome and kde installed.. i noticed in firefox today that i said 'open containing folder' and it used Gnomes file manager to do that.. not konwueror
[04:04] <stdin> if only they made FF in Qt
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Firefox  uses gtk? i forget...
[04:05] <stdin> yeah, FF is a gtk app
[04:05] <Dr_willis> stdin,  yes. thats what i was thinking also.   its more of a firefox issue not a kde issue.
[04:06] <stdin> a lot of 3rd party apps seem to be in gtk, shame really
[04:06] <emss> yes
[04:06] <emss> but it seems even
[04:07] <emss> because there are some nice qt apps k3b, kile, texmaker etc.
[04:07] <stdin> k3b isn't a 3rd party app
[04:07] <Dr_willis> well isent that freedesktop.org site helping to smooth over some of the issues between kde and gmome -   i seem to recall there being a LOT more problems with missing kde & gnome apps in the past.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> I recall ages ago. some how running KDE's desktop and gnomes desktop at the same time by mistake. had 2 icons for everything on the desktop
[04:08] <Dr_willis> The good old days...
[04:08] <Dr_willis> Back befor gnome decided to use MetaCity
[04:09] <emss> my external usb drive is so slooow
[04:10] <Dr_willis> yep. ive moved all my external drives internal. :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> and was amazed at how much faster they are.  I did have to track down an ide controller card.
[04:11] <Dr_willis> External Serial ATA drives are just as fast as internal. i hear.
[04:11] <naser> i want software to convert video ?!
[04:12] <emss> naser: mplayer/mencoder
[04:12] <emss> naser: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
[04:13] <stdin> !mplayer
[04:13] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:13] <vliegje20> is there a way to open .mdb documents made by access in openoffice?
[04:13] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:16] <dannybuntu> finally firefox
[04:16] <[Worlor] > salut a tous
[04:16] <dannybuntu> what the flying ...
[04:18] <emss> bonjour
[04:18] <dannybuntu> can anyone help me with my firefox installation - it keeps giving out "bus error"
[04:18] <stdin> vliegje20: I think openoffice.org-base can do it
[04:18] <Dr_willis> dannybuntu,  how did you install it?
[04:18] <dannybuntu> apt-get install firefox
[04:19] <dannybuntu> installation is ok - it runs for a few minutes then spews out a bus error
[04:19] <Dr_willis> interesting.
[04:19] <vliegje20> stdin thats installed but it cannot open it
[04:19] <Dr_willis> first ive herd of that problem.
[04:20] <ebees> Hi all. I'm running Dapper and have just upgraded Kino and now it doesn't recognise my camera. I'm wonndering if I may be able to get some assistance please?
[04:23] <Dell-Net> hi
[04:23] <ebees> hiya
[04:24] <Dell-Net> hmm what is the name of service/program that shows cpu speeds, my is gone :s
[04:24] <Dell-Net> *mine
[04:25] <ebees> Hi all, Does anyone have any experience with firewire?
[04:26] <dannybuntu> Dell-Net there are plenty
[04:27] <Dell-Net> standard in kde ?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[04:28] <dannybuntu> is it ksysguard?
[04:28] <Dell-Net> hmm yeah maybe
[04:28] <HymnToLife> !anyone | ebees
[04:28] <ubotu> ebees: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:28] <Dell-Net> hmm no
[04:29] <ebees> Hi Ubotu... I did a few minutes earlier, but I will certainly post it again. Thanks.
[04:29] <ebees> Hi all. I'm running Dapper and have just upgraded Kino and now it doesn't recognise my camera. I'm wonndering if I may be able to get some assistance please?
[04:30] <dannybuntu> hmmm do you mean the kasbar?
[04:31] <Dell-Net> hmm
[04:31] <Dell-Net> no
[04:31] <dannybuntu> ok i give up sorry i dunno
[04:32] <Dell-Net> it show if ypur cpu runs on 800mhz or 1600
[04:32] <Dell-Net> and adjustes
[04:32] <peksu> hello
[04:33] <peksu> can someone help me, my kubuntu says following at start up: "The composite Manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session.
[04:34] <stdin> that sounds like a compiz or beryl issue
[04:34] <peksu> another alert window after that says:" Composite extension not found. You must use Xorg>6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.
[04:35] <peksu> i'm totally new with linux...
[04:37] <ebees> thanks all the same everyone. It's last here so I'm off and will come back tomorrow night if need be
[04:38] <bartist> good night !
[04:41] <peksu> does anybody know where i can found a X config file? the find application don't show any hits
[04:43] <mindspin> it should be found at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <lamer> xax imam net
[04:46] <bartist> i have an Intel 82801CA-ICH3 soundcard that only works when it wants  -- PLEASE HELP
[04:46] <dennister> hello ppls
[04:47] <sameer> hi
[04:47] <dennister> i can't believe i did this, but i need to retrieve some forgotten passwords...could anyone help me with this?
[04:48] <stdin> dennister: unless you want to try and crack the passwords, it may just be easier to set new ones
[04:48] <BluesKaj> Ksysguard used to show graphical memory and cpu use .It no longer shows it and there doesn't seem to be a command available to turn it on.
[04:48] <dennister> yes, and i'm sure I can do that with the other user password, but with mysql, too?
[04:49] <lupine_85> dennister: do you have the md5sums ?
[04:49] <stdin> don't know about the mysql one
[04:49] <lupine_85> if you do, http://md5.benramsey.com/ is a godsend at times
[04:49] <dennister> ok...will try the mysql channel for that
[04:50] <dennister> lupine_85: i don't understand what md5sums have to do with passwords?
[04:50] <lupine_85> passwords are stored as md5sums...
[04:50] <lupine_85> usually, anyway
[04:50] <kkosmo> md5sums its only a database of passwords
[04:51] <dennister> ok, well i don't usually bother with md5sums unless i'm downloading & burning isos, so i'm not sure if i have the md5sums?
[04:52] <BluesKaj> stdin, Ksysguard used to show graphical memory and cpu use .It no longer shows it and there doesn't seem to be a command available to turn it on. ...any suggestions ?
[04:52] <lupine_85> the mysql one will be stored in the mysql database; so if you have read-only access, you can get it from there
[04:52] <lupine_85> but anyway. /me ----> work
[04:52] <dennister> thx lupine_85 will try
[04:53] <trappist> dennister: md5 is a one-way hash algorithm, which makes it goot for things like verifying downloads and crypting passwords
[04:53] <trappist> *good
[04:53] <dennister> hey trappist, long time no see :)
[04:53] <stdin> BluesKaj: File -> Load Standard Sheets
[04:53] <trappist> heya dennister
[04:54] <BluesKaj> stdin, thx :)
[04:54] <stdin> BluesKaj: no problem :)
[04:59] <dennister> ok, i have a coupla mysql databases (cause of mythtv) where do i look for the user's passwords to them
[05:00] <BluesKaj> What does mysql do in kubuntu ..and is it required to run the OS ?
[05:00] <dennister> or how do i use these md5sum gems to find them?
[05:01] <stdin> BluesKaj: mysql is a database server, and I don't think it's required no
[05:01] <BluesKaj> ok stdin , cuz it seems to be using a lot of the process
[05:02] <dennister> BluesKaj: it is required for applications like mythtv, ur running that? i seem to remember...
[05:02] <BluesKaj> nope , mythtv isn't necessary ...running TVtime with a satdish feed
[05:03] <BluesKaj> I tried mythtv ...too buggy
[05:03] <dennister> good for u :) don't mind me butting in, stdin knows more than I, no mysql is only used for certain applications, not the OS...so my memory was correct, u were trying mythtv
[05:05] <BluesKaj> ok what's mysqld ?
[05:06] <dennister> trappist: getting back to retrieving the mysql passwords...do u have some time to help me with this?
[05:06] <emss> BlueKaj man mysqld
[05:07] <stdin> mysqld would be the mysql daemon
[05:07] <stdin> daemon = server
[05:12] <naser> can i run gnome in kubuntu (install it)
[05:12] <naser> ??
[05:12] <dennister> stdin: would u be able to help me with retrieving these passwords?
[05:12] <dennister> naser: yes
[05:12] <stdin> naser: just install "ubuntu-desktop"
[05:12] <naser> how ?
[05:13] <stdin> dennister: I don't know enough about mysql databases to help
[05:13] <naser> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??
[05:13] <dennister> k, thx anyway
[05:13] <stdin> dennister: maybe ask in #mysql ?
[05:13] <stdin> naser: yes, or you can install it in adept
[05:14] <dennister> yes,...was just gonna go there :)...bbs
[05:14] <naser> from where (from kubuntu cd ??)
[05:15] <naser> from where (from kubuntu cd ??)
[05:15] <stdin> huh?
[05:15] <stdin> what do you mean "from where" ?
[05:15] <naser> i cant find gnome desktop in kubuntu CD
[05:15] <stdin> it won't be on the kubuntu cd
[05:16] <Dr_willis> logical eh. :)
[05:16] <naser> i search in the cd (pool/main/g/)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> gnome packages are NOT on the kubuntu cd
[05:17] <Dr_willis> thers no room for it on there.
[05:17] <stdin> like I said, it's not on the CD
[05:17] <naser> ok
[05:17] <naser> from where i can find it ??
[05:17] <mauro> does anyone know how long it will take for flash 9 final to get on the repos ?
[05:18] <stdin> naser: from the repositories
[05:18] <Dr_willis> !info ubuntu-desktop
[05:18] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:18] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-getinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <stdin> with a space between "apt-get" and "install" :P
[05:19] <Dr_willis> you proberly want to remove/comment out any mention of the cd drive in the apt-sources
[05:19] <Pekke> can anyone link me to a simple, step-by-step manual how to install Java pluging to Firefox?
[05:19] <stdin> !java
[05:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Pekke,  i just installed the sun java package.. and it worked.. never had any problems with it
[05:20] <stdin> you just install "sun-java5-plugin" and let aot sort out the dependencies
[05:20] <vikal> #ubuntu.pl
[05:20] <stdin> s/aot/apt
[05:21] <Pekke> i have tried for 2 days now to install, but it always gives some error. I have tried by the instructions found in Sun Java site
[05:21] <Dr_willis> and this error is ?
[05:21] <stdin> don't use the download from sun, use the ubuntu package
[05:22] <Pekke> sometimes it can't find the package(which i have downloaded onto desktop) and sometimes it says something different, which i can't remember right now
[05:22] <Dr_willis> well you dont download the package to the desktop.. you should let apt-get download and install it.
[05:22] <Pekke> where can i find the ubuntu package?
[05:22] <McChicken> hello, it is me from this morning. I need some help with installing programs from tar.gz and tgz files, can any1 help??
[05:22] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-jre
[05:23] <tony__> how do you install things that you download with an .sh extension
[05:23] <stdin> Pekke: it's in the multiverse repository
[05:23] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  what 'programs'
[05:23] <Dr_willis> bash whatever.sh  (normally), or chmod +x whatever.sh   && ./whatever.sh
[05:23] <McChicken> BombOBomb.program-1.11.2.tgz
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !source
[05:23] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:23] <Dr_willis> silly factoid. :P
[05:23] <McChicken> im a no0b
[05:24] <manwithaface> !build-essentials
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  install 'build-essential' first. uncompress the archive.. google for compiling stuff from source..  you may need to install other things befor compiling.
[05:24] <McChicken> what about tar.gz files. in the folders it explains i need to do a command. but where and how??
[05:24] <stdin> tony__: depends what it is, but generally you open Konsole and run the file like "sh /path/to/file.sh"
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !shell
[05:24] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:24] <McChicken> sh?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  you may want to invest a day or 2 in learning some linux basics.
[05:24] <stdin> !sh
[05:24] <stdin> sh = shell
[05:24] <raeez> !adeptfix
[05:25] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:25] <manwithaface> if they are tar, you'll have to untar em
[05:25] <McChicken> where can i learn the basics?
[05:25] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:25] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  tldp.org  and ... err... learn to use google. :)
[05:25] <naser> what is the desktop that like windows ??
[05:25] <tony__> okay, thanks, oh and anyone have a good link to a getting started guide?
[05:25] <McChicken> how do you untar?? do you just extract them?
[05:25] <naser> ice.. ?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> naser,  icewm looks a little like windows95
[05:25] <McChicken> where can i get the "alien" program from?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  from the shell. i normally use the 'unp' command. but im lazy
[05:26] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  install alien with the package manager tool
[05:26] <stdin> fvwm95 looks like win95
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !alien
[05:26] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:26] <McChicken> package manager??
[05:26] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  now we are back to time to learn the basics. :)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !adept
[05:26] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:26] <Pekke> hmm. earlier i downloaded the Automatix -script.. is it any good, for the codecs & java plugin
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Pekke,  dont use that....
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Pekke,  it can do bad things..
[05:26] <stdin> !automatix
[05:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:27] <Pekke> ok.. thanks
[05:27] <raeez> Video playback with kaffiene is choppy, but not with VLC... why is this?
[05:27] <McChicken> ok, what filetype do i need to download that is a suitable program for kubuntu?
[05:27] <stdin> use Adept to get all your apps
[05:28] <McChicken> Adept??
[05:28] <stdin> Kmenu -> System -> Adept
[05:28] <stdin> it's the Kubuntu package manager
[05:28] <McChicken> ok i am runnig adept
[05:28] <manwithaface> McChicken: if nothing else, look for .debs
[05:28] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  Linux uses a package manager tool to download/install stuff.. you dont NORMALLY  just 'download' stuff an dinstall from various web sites
[05:28] <stdin> you use it to install application on Kubuntu
[05:28] <Dr_willis> thats 'windows' thinking.
[05:29] <raeez> Video playback with kaffiene is choppy, but not with VLC... why is this?
[05:30] <codyt> hrm.
[05:30] <McChicken> how ????? i am on it but it just explains all the ones i have on my system
[05:30] <McChicken> i just want to install more programs, where and how can i do this?
[05:30] <McChicken> *
[05:31] <manwithaface> McChicken, you're gonna have to enable repositories
[05:31] <McChicken> what is that?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  notice in the menus theres a "add/remove programs" icon?
[05:31] <McChicken> yes
[05:31] <McChicken> i have been on that
[05:31] <Dr_willis> try it yet? :)
[05:31] <stdin> !repos | McChicken
[05:31] <ubotu> McChicken: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:31] <McChicken> ok
[05:31] <Dr_willis> installing any program from source - will be a bit of a task for you - since you have no knowledge of the basics of how linux works.
[05:32] <McChicken> ok, i agree.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !beginner
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beginner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <codyt> not always
[05:32] <codyt> well, I grasp things quickly.
[05:32] <Pekke> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !info java
[05:32] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in any distro I know
[05:32] <Pekke> that is the error it gives me now
[05:32] <stdin> !repos | Pekke
[05:32] <ubotu> Pekke: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Pekke,  you need to enable the proper repository.
[05:33] <codyt> But, a large portion of programs is just "./config && make && make install"
[05:33] <stdin> Pekke: enable the Multiverse repository
[05:33] <Dr_willis> codyt,  assuming the guy even has a clue what the 'shell' and 'typing commands' means. :)
[05:33] <Dr_willis> codyt,  that makes it a little tougher.
[05:33] <stdin> codyt: and what about resolving dependencies of the apps, it's not always that easy
[05:33] <Pekke> in the Adept repositories, i have enabled all that are in the list
[05:33] <codyt> Oh, I know.
[05:34] <codyt> I did a lot of resolving depencies without a net connect.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Pekke,  i always edit the sources.list file by hand and  add on 'multiverse' after every line that has 'universe' :)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> i wonder if that easysource site has edgy support yet.
[05:34] <stdin> Dr_willis: it does, it even has feisty :P
[05:35] <codyt> even though Gentoo sports emerge(<3), I couldn't use it.
[05:35] <stdin> !source-o-matic
[05:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:35] <gdiebel> would anyone know a way to make konsole sort-of ssh/bash aware? I mean change the color schema if you are root or if you are ssh'd into another host.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> gdiebel,  edit the users .bashrc or .bash_profiles to check/change things
[05:36] <blue|palm> codyt: did you get your kubuntu sorted?
[05:36] <codyt> blue|palm, I don't have the option of reinstalling, it's a LiveCD.
[05:37] <Pekke> i added the word multiverse to all of the lines that had the word universe there and saved the file, but it still says the same error
[05:37] <McChicken> ok, i have got it to work. But i need a c/c++ compiler
[05:37] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  'build-essential' is the package that installs the compiler and other stuff.
[05:37] <blue|palm> yeah, i used a livecd too
[05:37] <blue|palm> i just formatted and then installed again
[05:37] <tony__> the .sh file wouldn't run. what's the command I  went cd /directory/ but it wouldn't run
[05:37] <ohyesyoucan11> what is the best proxy to use when you set up Konquer to "autodetect proxy"?
[05:38] <McChicken> build essential?? how do i do this? the run command??
[05:38] <Dr_willis> tony__,  and did it say anything?
[05:38] <codyt> blue|palm, this occurs during the LiveCD boot process
[05:38] <blue|palm> woah
[05:38] <codyt> yeah.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  its a package you install with the package manager.. or from the  shell with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[05:38] <blue|palm> codyt: I didnt know that
[05:38] <tony__> it said command not found
[05:38] <ohyesyoucan11> oops,something messed up
[05:38] <blue|palm> codyt: Your next step is to get the alternate install cd then I think
[05:38] <Dr_willis> tony__,  i would guess a typo on your part..
[05:38] <McChicken> so i need to "udo apt-get install build-essential" in konsole??
[05:38] <Dr_willis> ./whatevercommand
[05:39] <Dr_willis> not 'whatverecommand'
[05:39] <manwithaface> McChicken, yes
[05:39] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  yes. that is the 'shell'
[05:39] <ohyesyoucan11> if I set my Konquer to "autodetect proxy" which proxy is most noob friendly.?
[05:39] <tony__> oh, ok
[05:39] <McChicken> ok and that will install all necessary file?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  it will install the CORE of the C development stuff.
[05:40] <manwithaface> you're still gonna have to install kde-dev, and all kinds of other stuff
[05:40] <codyt> blue|palm, I've also tried my Gentoo LiveCD, it stops after "ok, bootking kernel" (or something along those lines)
[05:40] <manwithaface> your first compile can be a long process
[05:40] <blue|palm> Dr_willis: how do you get the x headers?
[05:40] <McChicken> i have done this command. now all it display s is ">" sign, ??
[05:40] <tony__> what is the command to run the sh file
[05:40] <blue|palm> codyt: thats really odd
[05:40] <ohyesyoucan11> manwithaface... and don't forget the tears. lol
[05:40] <codyt> I've heard of other people having problems with this specific computer, but didn't find any resolutions (wasn't looking hard)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> blue|palm,  i normally fire up the pakcage manager and search and start clicking...
[05:41] <codyt> apt-*
[05:41] <McChicken> why is it just displaying te ">" sign??
[05:41] <Dr_willis> tony__,  if its executable it would be ./whateverthefilenameis.sh
[05:41] <tony__> thanks
[05:41] <Dr_willis> tony__,  or 'bash whateverthestupidnameis.sh'
[05:41] <Dr_willis> or 'chmod +x whatevertheDUMBthingis.sh  && ./whatevertheDUmbthingis.sh'
[05:41] <Dr_willis> tony__,  what Are you trying to isntall anyway?
[05:42] <stdin> ./AppToFsckMyPC ?
[05:42] <blue|palm> codyt: what architecture are you using? also are there any extra hardware peripherals attached (USB, firewire etc.) I find its best to just disconnect them and reconnect after install
[05:42] <blue|palm> Does anybody know where to get the x headers?
[05:42] <tony__> thank you so much
[05:42] <codyt> fsck you?
[05:42] <stdin> fsck us all :)
[05:42] <tony__> i got a lot of reading to do
[05:43] <stdin> blue|palm: xorg-dev should be what you're looking for
[05:43] <codyt> blue|palm, I had thought of that earlier, but had forgot.. I'll check into that again.
[05:43] <McChicken> i have done the command, but now this has come up:"E: Couldn't find package build-essential". Any help?
[05:43] <codyt> *really* don't want to have to download another CD image
[05:43] <codyt> don't have broadband here.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[05:44] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:44] <McChicken> what does this mean
[05:44] <HymnToLife> McChicken, bad sources.list, most likely
[05:44] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  be sure you typed it right.. and you proberly need to do a 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' first (just in case)
[05:44] <McChicken> i di it through konsole, i typed it correctly so why not?
[05:44] <McChicken> ok
[05:45] <codyt> actually
[05:45] <McChicken> do i have to be "root"?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> thats what 'sudo' is all about McChicken
[05:45] <codyt> blue|palm, it should be the 386 edgy
[05:46] <McChicken> ok
[05:46] <codyt> 'cause, this is an Athlon XP, not 64bit or Apple.
[05:47] <ohyesyoucan11> what should I set my browser ID to in Konqueror... for compatibility?
[05:47] <McChicken> problem: "reading package lists... Done E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:47] <McChicken> eading package lists... Done
[05:47] <McChicken> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:47] <McChicken> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:47] <blue|palm> stdin: thanks
[05:47] <McChicken> i didnt mean to flood sorry
[05:48] <McChicken> why is this happening?????
[05:48] <DShepherd> McChicken, have you tried sudo before the command?
[05:49] <DShepherd> or you may have the 2 or more programs in use ( like adept open and running apt-get at the same time)
[05:49] <blue|palm> Does anybody know which package i can find the qt headers in?
[05:50] <blue|palm> !adeptfix
[05:50] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:50] <blue|palm> McChicken try those commands (after !adeptfix)
[05:50] <McChicken> i typed "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and i tryed the other command "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[05:51] <McChicken> am i doing it wrong?
[05:51] <blue|palm> McChicken: try the commands after !adeptfix
[05:52] <ctaylor_> hrm.
[05:52] <ctaylor_> dialup..
[05:52] <McChicken> give me an example please
[05:52] <DShepherd> blue|palm libqt3-headers
[05:52] <blue|palm> go to your console and type the following commands:
[05:52] <blue|palm> !adeptfix
[05:52] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:52] <blue|palm> McChicken: type these in 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:52] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  you DOnt have adept, or any other package manager tools allready running do you? you only run 1 of those at a time.
[05:53] <McChicken> when !adeptfix:"bash: !adeptfix: event not found"
[05:53] <blue|palm> DShepherd thanks
[05:53] <DShepherd> blue|palm, no prob
[05:53] <blue|palm> no, dont TYPE !adeptfix
[05:53] <blue|palm> type the commands i told you about above
[05:53] <McChicken> o k sorry
[05:54] <blue|palm> its ok
[05:54] <blue|palm> type these in  'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:54] <McChicken> bluepalm i typed that command and nothing happened, so it must of worked
[05:54] <blue|palm> there are two there
[05:54] <blue|palm> the first starts with sudo and ends with lock
[05:55] <blue|palm> now run System->Adept Package Manager
[05:55] <McChicken> ok
[05:56] <McChicken> it asks for my password then opens
[05:56] <blue|palm> great
[05:56] <McChicken> now how do i get the basic stuff
[05:56] <blue|palm> now there are a list of packages fot you to browse
[05:56] <blue|palm> you first must know what you want
[05:56] <McChicken> loads but they all say installed
[05:57] <blue|palm> Most of the 'basics' come with the livecd anyway
[05:57] <codyt> my package management system has some issue about gzip
[05:57] <McChicken> i would like to get the c/c++ stuff
[05:57] <McChicken> all of them are installed
[05:58] <blue|palm> they cant 'all' be installed
[05:58] <blue|palm> most of mine are blue and say 'not installed'
[05:58] <codyt> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[05:58] <codyt>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:58] <McChicken> hmm...in the main window. with the "status" they all say installed.
[05:59] <blue|palm> how many entries are there?
[05:59] <blue|palm> I have 'loads', how about you?
[05:59] <McChicken> it says at the bottom, 937 installed, 0 upgradable, 937 available
[06:00] <manwithaface> you need to enable repos
[06:00] <smileymike> hello
[06:00] <McChicken> how do i enable?
[06:00] <blue|palm> manwithaface: can you take over from here?
[06:00] <manwithaface> sure
[06:01] <manwithaface> McChicken, how did you start Adept?
[06:01] <manwithaface> did you click on Add/Remove programs?
[06:01] <McChicken> no
[06:01] <McChicken> iopened it normally.
[06:01] <manwithaface> ok
[06:02] <manwithaface> what all is checked at the top?
[06:02] <McChicken> ok, i have installed kubuntu through a live cd. a few days ago
[06:03] <manwithaface> make sure by Show: you have every box checked
[06:03] <McChicken> and i was trying to install a program through console "./configure then make then make install" but then it needed c/c++ something
[06:03] <manwithaface> ok
[06:03] <blue|palm> !adeptfix
[06:03] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:03] <manwithaface> what program are you trying to install through Konsol
[06:03] <McChicken> it has not
[06:04] <McChicken> A extracted tar.gz file
[06:04] <McChicken> it has told me to do those codes i just explained
[06:04] <manwithaface> but what program, it is possible it is already a Kubuntu package
[06:04] <McChicken> what do you mean by checkboxes, i only have arrows?
[06:05] <manwithaface> ok, expand the State Filter arrow
[06:05] <McChicken> it is a game, bombObomb
[06:05] <McChicken> and ia hve many other ones
[06:05] <manwithaface> ok
[06:05] <manwithaface> do you see the boxs?
[06:05] <bubu1uk> McChicken: what exactly does it need? c/c++ something.
[06:06] <McChicken> ok give me a minute....
[06:06] <manwithaface> bubuluk: i think he needs build-essentials
[06:07] <Dr_willis> and the discussion goes back to the beginning.. :)
[06:07] <bubu1uk> might be, but hard to help him if he needs c++ something
[06:07] <blue|palm> lol, hes new
[06:07] <McChicken> it checks for gcc.no,cc..no,cl..no,cc..no. then "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[06:07] <bubu1uk> blue|palm: got that.  ;)
[06:07] <blue|palm> hehe
[06:07] <blue|palm> we all start somewhere
[06:08] <Dr_willis> McChicken,  if you have not installed 'build-essential' yet - then you need to do so.
[06:08] <blue|palm> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:08] <blue|palm> thats your cmd
[06:08] <Dr_willis> but if he still has adept open.... :)
[06:08] <blue|palm> yeah, first close adept
[06:08] <manwithaface> he is trying to do it GUI
[06:08] <manwithaface> i think
[06:08] <blue|palm> oh thats fine too
[06:09] <blue|palm> maybe its better
[06:09] <manwithaface> otherwise, he will have to edit his sources
[06:09] <McChicken> i have tried that but it says:"E: Couldn't find package build-essential"
[06:09] <manwithaface> ok, click View, then Manage Repositories
[06:09] <blue|palm> Has anybody got experience with choppy video playback in kubuntu?
[06:09] <blue|palm> sorry only in kaffiene
[06:09] <Dr_willis> build-essential is in main.. perhaps he needs to remove the cdrom repository
[06:10] <McChicken> on konsole?
[06:10] <manwithaface> no, in adept
[06:10] <McChicken> ok
[06:11] <cmcguicken> ok i have done it
[06:11] <cmcguicken> now what?
[06:13] <cmcguicken> i am on view repositories
[06:13] <cmcguicken> ??
[06:14] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken: press update button. two arrows. to refresh package list from repositories.
[06:14] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken:
[06:14] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken:
[06:15] <blue|palm> Does anybody know of any media players able to post process as well as the opensource windows media player classic (except for linux of course)
[06:15] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken: hold. lol. am bit mixed now. lol
[06:15] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken: ur McChicken now?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> blue|palm,  vlc,xine,mplayer - have lots of those features.
[06:16] <cmcguicken> yes
[06:16] <cmcguicken> sorry
[06:17] <peksu> hello again. my wlan doesn't seem to work all that well with this linux
[06:17] <KennethP> Starting Adept Manager just after reboot I see this Read only mode: Database Locked - Adept Manager. How do I unlock this again?
[06:17] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken: u'r in repositories list, right?
[06:18] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | kennethp
[06:18] <ubotu> kennethp: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:18] <cmcguicken> i am
[06:18] <KennethP> fdoving: tnx
[06:18] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken: u should have some repositories in grey colour some in black. those in grey right click and choose enable.
[06:19] <bubu1uk> choose those that are universe and multiverse.
[06:19] <cmcguicken> all of them?
[06:19] <cmcguicken> soome say bugs and stuff
[06:19] <cmcguicken> like competed unsupported?
[06:20] <peksu> but i sure can't get my java plugin to work in firefox. I added "multiverse" to the sources list and then tried again to install it via Konsole, but nothing
[06:20] <cmcguicken> **completely
[06:20] <cmcguicken> ?
[06:21] <cmcguicken> bubu1k, what do you mean?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> peksu,  after editng the sources.list you need to do a 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:22] <cmcguicken> ok i have now done this
[06:22] <cmcguicken> will c work?
[06:23] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken: u could choose just universe and multiverse, but doesnt really matter if all of them.
[06:23] <BluesKaj> peksu , try this site : http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[06:24] <cmcguicken> ok sso now do i need to do that command to get the basic things
[06:24] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken:now click aply and done or something like that.
[06:24] <cmcguicken> now what?
[06:25] <codyt> Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.2.1) but it is not installable <- any idea why it wouldn't be installable?
[06:25] <peksu> Dr_willis: thanks! it was all about updating the list! now it works
[06:25] <Dr_willis> peksu,  :) been there... done that...
[06:25] <peksu> =)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> peksu,  heh.
[06:25] <cmcguicken> now adept is taken al ong time to open..:@
[06:26] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken:basicaly get back to package list. dont have adept opened now so dont really remember exactly
[06:26] <cmcguicken> adept is not opening!!
[06:26] <Dr_willis> or its looking at all the repos/lists now...
[06:26] <cmcguicken> no its just stoppped loading and gone
[06:27] <firecrotc1> Okay, I know that this would belong on #ubuntu-server, but as usual, no one is responding there...
[06:27] <firecrotc1> I just started renting a dedicated server and have been given a block of 5 ip addresses, 1 of which is actually set up.  How do I set up my server to work on additional IPs?
[06:27] <firecrotc1> If that makes sense to anyone
[06:28] <cmcguicken> what s the command to unlock it??
[06:28] <cmcguicken> **the command to unlock adept
[06:28] <bubu1uk> !adeptfix
[06:28] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:28] <bubu1uk> cmcquicken:but close all adept
[06:30] <cmcguicken> got adept ot work again
[06:31] <cmcguicken> ok i have applied after doing the repsoitories, what will this do?
[06:31] <eihnat> cmcquicken: put in search box 'build-esentials' or whatever it was called
[06:32] <cmcguicken> where
[06:32] <meven> adept
[06:32] <eihnat> cmcquicken: there should be search box in adept
[06:32] <cmcguicken> i have already installed all 937
[06:33] <eihnat> cmcquicken: box where u can type
[06:33] <jamrs> okay, anyone have a guide to repair a grub boot record from the live cd
[06:33] <cmcguicken> yes "build-essentials" ...=nothing
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !grub
[06:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:33] <eihnat> jamrs: try to have a look at www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:33] <Dr_willis> its 'build-essential'
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !find build-essential
[06:33] <ubotu> Found: build-essential
[06:34] <cmcguicken> no adept cant find it
[06:34] <eihnat> cmcquicken: build-essential without s
[06:34] <eihnat> at the end
[06:34] <cmcguicken> yes
[06:34] <cmcguicken> there is nothing
[06:35] <jamrs> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:35] <cmcguicken> g2g
[06:35] <jamrs> Dr_willis: ah, yes, already tried this guide
[06:35] <eihnat> cmcquicken: go back to manage repositories and check if all are applied
[06:35] <jamrs> it didnt work
[06:35] <jamrs> rebooted and it went into windows
[06:36] <angasule> I wanted to edit /etc/sudoers so I changed the permission from 0440 to 0640, little did I know that sudo would then refuse to work (since it checks for /etc/sudoers to be 0440), how do I change it back? reboot and rescue CD? or is there some way that doesn't involve a reboot?
[06:36] <peksu> is the easyubuntu still working? i mean my Add/Remove programs application can't find it at all
[06:36] <eihnat> jamrs: did u have a look in ubuntuguide.org
[06:36] <eihnat> ?
[06:39] <russo__> hola?
[06:39] <angasule> !es
[06:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:39] <jamrs> eihnat: yeah it doesnt have a search function on the page
[06:39] <jamrs> which doesnt make sense cause it looks like a wiki
[06:40] <dpini> hiuh
[06:41] <chuen> Hi all. I'm trying to open an .rar archive using ARK, but am getting the error "The utility unrar is not in your path."
[06:41] <kalle_> Whats the shortcut for gnome-terminal? :o
[06:41] <chuen> Do I have to use unrar specifically to unarchive rar files?
[06:42] <hatta> ark is just a frontend
[06:42] <largos> is anyone aware of problems installing kubuntu on large sata drives?
[06:42] <mauro> chuen: install unrar
[06:42] <hossen_aljesme> where i find kubuntu packages ?? (auto install) ??
[06:42] <firecrotc1> is there anyone here who is familiar with "ifconfig" ?
[06:42] <mauro> chuen: "sudo aptitude install unrar"
[06:42] <hatta> it's easier to just pop open a console and do: rar x file.rar
[06:43] <mauro> firecrotc1: what do you need to know ?
[06:43] <andreasw_weg> firecrotc1: here (I hope so) ;)
[06:43] <chuen> hatta: Thanks. I'll try command line
[06:43] <firecrotc1> I have a dedicated server with 5 IPs allocated to it, only 1 is set up
[06:43] <chuen> mauro: I've just installed it. Is it a command line utility?
[06:44] <firecrotc1> All I can figure out is that I have to use ifconfig to enable the othere
[06:44] <largos> chuen: rar / unrar are command-line
[06:44] <eihnat> jamrs: it doesnt have search but it has a list of topics. go thru it. i think i saw there something bout grub before. but not sure.
[06:44] <chuen> largos: No gui's available?
[06:44] <largos> firecrotc1: does it have 5 'nics?
[06:44] <andreasw> firecrotc1: can't it be that the router of your provider automatically forwards to your server if someone uses one of the 5 ips?
[06:45] <largos> chuen: ark is one gui -- there are probably other graphical wrappers for it
[06:45] <firecrotc1> largos: as far as I know, there is 1 NIC
[06:45] <largos> chuen: as hatta said, command line is fairly easy for most tasks
[06:45] <jamrs> eihnat: not how to fix it... lol i cant believe that i am going to have to use the gentoo cd to fix my kubuntu install
[06:45] <chuen> largos: Tha'ts what I thought - just wondred why ARK wouldn't work.
[06:45] <chuen> largos: OK.
[06:45] <largos> firecrotc1: you'll need to look into enabling virtual interfaces (I think that's what they're called)
[06:46] <largos> chuen: that's why I don't usually use graphical wrapper apps :) they often don't work..
[06:46] <chuen> largos: LOL. I'm learning ;-)
[06:47] <firecrotc1> largos: that's the thing - I've looked at several sources, and I just plain don't get it
[06:47] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[06:47] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:48] <eihnat> jamrs: what happened to ur grub?
[06:48] <Rob-West> :) :) :) :)
[06:48] <firecrotc1> largos: all I can basically tell is that I'll end up with a total of 5 interfaces, eth0:1, eth0:2, etc
[06:48] <jamrs> eihnat: installed windows
[06:48] <jamrs> this is my drive for class
[06:49] <jamrs> and they are constantly having us put different things on it
[06:49] <eihnat> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[06:49] <andreasw> firecrotc1: and now you can assign ip addresses to the alias interfaces
[06:49] <eihnat> jamrs: hope will help.
[06:49] <mauro> chuen: if you installed unrar ark should extract rars normally
[06:50] <firecrotc1> andreasw: okay, I'm definitely going to have to do some more reading :)
[06:50] <jamrs> ah
[06:50] <jamrs> i did setup (hd0,1)
[06:50] <jamrs> i needed to just do hd0
[06:50] <jamrs> bbl
[06:50] <eihnat> jamrs: either i think there is some other method, but dunno. never had to do that. ;)
[06:50] <andreasw> firecrotc1: you configure the aliases like normal interfaces
[06:51] <unknownid> jamrs: hi, it happend to me too, it's easy to fix don't stress
[06:51] <firecrotc1> andreasw: I don't know how to configure normal interfaces either :(
[06:51] <unknownid> jamrs: just can't remember how
[06:52] <chuen> mauro: I installed the free version - does it make any difference?
[06:52] <Pekke> why does it log out after changing the desktop settings?
[06:52] <blue|palm> what is the linux version of windows' xcopy?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> man cp
[06:55] <mauro> chuen: i heard comments that it doesnt really work to well, i sugget you install the plain rar, even if its not free
[06:55] <mauro> blue|palm: what does xcopy do ?
[06:55] <firecrotc1> Oh wow, that was easier than I thought it would be
[06:56] <eihnat> chuen: yeah, free unrar cant open sometimes some rar files.
[06:56] <andreasw> firecrotc1: ifconfig eth0:1 inet 192.168.178.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up would set the network address + netmask
[06:57] <Dr_willis> ive used winrar.exe in wine befor. :)
[06:57] <firecrotc1> andreasw: thanks :)
[06:57] <andreasw> just had a con lost
[06:57] <firecrotc1> I noticed
[06:57] <CVirus> !flash
[06:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:58] <andreasw> and if the settings work you can make entries in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <firecrotc1> andreasw: what purpose does that serve?
[07:02] <andreasw> firecrotc1: the settings you make with ifconfig are lost whenever you restart so you put it into interfaces so at a reboot these settings will be automatically be made
[07:02] <firecrotc1> Ah, gotcha
[07:03] <firecrotc1> It seems to only be partly working... I can ping the addresses, but attempting to access it in a web browser fails (I do have it set up in apache already)
[07:07] <shinigami> hi .. i'm using firefox in kubuntu dapper.. when i load http://www.swisscash.biz/ ,  it hit into a mobile site. But when i used Windows IE, it turn out to be normal. How come?
[07:09] <firecrotc1> shinigami: my guess is they're filtering the content based on the user-agent string
[07:09] <eihnat> firecrotc1: check if u haveDNS servers setup properly DNS
[07:10] <mauro> shinigami: with konqueror it sends me to mobile too
[07:10] <mauro> let me try opera
[07:10] <kalle_> Whats the shortcut for gnome-terminal? :o
[07:10] <firecrotc1> shinigami: it works if you send an IE user-agent
[07:11] <shinigami> firecrotc1: i can edit the identification in konqueor
[07:11] <firecrotc1> eihnat: my problem has nothing to do with DNS servers, I'm accessing the server via it's IP addresses
[07:11] <shinigami> but i can't do it in firefox.. how?
[07:11] <shinigami> wait
[07:11] <firecrotc1> shinigami: I beleive there is an extension called User Agent Switcher
[07:11] <blue|palm> does anybody else experience problems trying to play files with mplayer?
[07:11] <blue|palm> or am i just missing codecs or something?
[07:12] <shinigami> if u add Browser identification at konqueor to internet explorer 6 XP it can work
[07:12] <shinigami> User Agent Switcher........ yes..how to install?
[07:12] <firecrotc1> Let me find it for you
[07:12] <eihnat> blue|palm: what error u get?
[07:12] <n0ne> i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/
[07:13] <firecrotc1> shinigami: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
[07:13] <blue|palm> eihnat: error opening/initializing the selected video out
[07:13] <chuen> mauro: Thanks (had to answer the door)
[07:13] <chuen> einhat: Thanks.
[07:13] <n0ne> i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/
[07:14] <blue|palm> eihnat: mp3 files play but only after giving an error
[07:14] <mauro> chuen: no prob, thats why we people at the IRC are for
[07:15] <eihnat> blue|palm: had same problem. cant remember if i sorted it out. i think somethink else was using video. is anything runnin. like kaffeine
[07:15] <n0ne> i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/
[07:16] <shinigami> ok installed
[07:16] <blue|palm> only amarok in the background
[07:16] <shinigami> firefox just crash when i try to switch to windows xp
[07:16] <blue|palm> eihnat: only amarok in the background
[07:16] <shinigami> konqueor doesn't..
[07:16] <eddy__> LOL
[07:16] <eddy__> hello to all
[07:17] <n0ne> i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/
[07:17] <chuen> mauro: This is the most supportive channel I've been on.
[07:17] <chuen> mauro: doesn't treat newbz condcendingly.
[07:17] <tzbishop> I have a notebook which shares a folder called Pictures. I can see it and modify everything via smb:// on Konqueror. How could I share my $HOME folder with the notebook?
[07:18] <snowice> I'm planning on buying a hd enclosure, is there anything I shoould bear in mind in terms of kubuntu support?
[07:18] <n0ne> i'm tryin' to play savage and after patch to 2.00e have this problem ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1957/
[07:18] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  it used to work? the error seems to imply some video card driver/gl issue
[07:18] <sampan> snowice  like a USB enclosure for a HD?
[07:18] <n0ne> yea, before patch it worked
[07:19] <firecrotc1> snowice: you should have no problems
[07:19] <Dr_willis> this patch just came out?
[07:19] <n0ne> but when i've patched it to latest version it's started to crash with this error
[07:19] <n0ne> nop, i think it's a pretty old patch
[07:20] <tzbishop> I have a notebook which shares a folder called Pictures. I can see it and modify everything via smb:// on Konqueror. How could I share my $HOME folder with the notebook?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I would have to say redownload/install the full version with the patches allready init.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I got silverback 2E working here
[07:21] <n0ne> can u give me link to fully patched game please?
[07:21] <snowice> sampan, that's right, I would like to buy an enclosure to fit a seagate hard disk I still have, preferably one that also has the option to connect to the LAN
[07:21] <n0ne> i can't find it :(
 can u give me link to fully patched game please?
[07:22] <shinigami> hi my firefox doesn't load www.swisscash.biz after using the user agent to change to windows xp platform...
[07:22] <shinigami> can anyone try
[07:22] <sampan> snowice i don't know anything about connecting it to LANs, but as long as it's USB you'll be fine with using the HD on kubuntu (i have two external HDs set up this way myself)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  nope.. i downloaded it a month or so ago.. so not sure where its at.
 ok, i'll try to find, thx
[07:23] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  let me check the installed game dir for some docs
[07:23] <snowice> sampan, can you put a Linux filesystem on that, I came acroos a few that requires fat32, and that would give me the creeps
[07:24] <n0ne> =)
[07:24] <Dr_willis> www.evolvedclan.com
[07:24] <Dr_willis> is whare the readme says
[07:24] <eihnat> shinigami: that swisscash works 4 me
[07:24] <n0ne> thx
[07:24] <sampan> snowice  i have one FAT and one ext3.  i don't know why the ENCLOSURE would care what filesystem you use.
[07:25] <shinigami> eihnat: you using firefox user agent?
[07:25] <eihnat> shinigami: what u mean by user agent?
 oh, is it in .RUN package or smth else?
[07:26] <shinigami> eihnat: if you don't use the user agent, you'll see a mobile site instead of the full site..
[07:26] <Dr_willis> i forget.. it was a tar.gz or self installer..
[07:26] <soulrider> does anyone know if there are any NES emulators for windows ?
[07:26] <blue|palm> soulrider why are you asking that here?
 ok..thx
[07:26] <eihnat> shinigami: ah, nope then.
[07:27] <snowice> sampan, I think those boxes do more than just enclose the hard disk, that's why, most also mention OS support and linux is not always part of the list
[07:27] <shinigami> eihnat: are u loading the full page or mobile (text base) page?
[07:27] <soulrider> blue|palm: because maybe someone knows.... ?
[07:27] <eihnat> shinigami: normal. just in firefox
[07:27] <soulrider> blue|palm: as far as i know its not illegal if you have the games
[07:27] <shinigami> eihnat: are u using linux?
[07:28] <sampan> snowice  then buy one that doesn't do 'more'?  the ones i have are just simple boxes with IDE cables in the back and a USB out the back.  plug-n-play after the HD is installed
[07:28] <blue|palm> soulrider, i dont mean to be rude or anything, its just that this is a linux channel :) But yes there are for windows
[07:28] <eihnat> shinigami: yes
[07:28] <soulrider> well, i want one for linux :P
[07:28] <Dr_willis> google is our friend
[07:28] <eddy__> lol
[07:28] <Dr_willis> and theres several nes/snes/other emulators out for linux
[07:28] <blue|palm> soulrider, oh i completely misunderstood you, sorry! fgoogle for it
[07:29] <soulrider> great Dr_willis
[07:29] <eddy__> nick /RotflMan
[07:29] <Bizzeh> hey
[07:29] <Bizzeh> just got kubuntu installed
[07:29] <shinigami> ok somehow it worked
[07:29] <shinigami> haha
[07:29] <Dr_willis> and many programs are front ends to  emulators with just command line options
[07:29] <Bizzeh> and managed to get my wireless working
[07:29] <eddy__> i've got it
[07:29] <blue|palm> what driver is reccommended to be used by mplayer?
[07:29] <Bizzeh> thing is, i cant manage to get my 2 media drives to mount so i can actualy use them
[07:29] <blue|palm> what 'video' driver is reccommended to be used by mplayer?
[07:30] <manwithaface> Bizzeh, what are their formats?
[07:30] <snowice> sampan, okay, thanks for your advice
[07:30] <Bizzeh> ntfs
[07:30] <eddy__> Does Kubuntu support wireless as WPA-PSK?
[07:30] <Bizzeh> they mount
[07:30] <Bizzeh> i just cant access
[07:30] <manwithaface> ntfs is read-only
[07:30] <Bizzeh> says i dont have permition
[07:30] <Bizzeh> i know
[07:30] <blue|palm> eddy__ yes but you have to go through alot of trouble to activate it
[07:30] <manwithaface> they must be mounted under root
[07:30] <Bizzeh> yes
[07:30] <Bizzeh> i did that
[07:31] <Bizzeh> and when i try to use them as a normal user
[07:31] <blue|palm> I was too lazy so i just changed my wifi network security to WEP
[07:31] <Bizzeh> i get permition denied
[07:31] <manwithaface> you need to give users read access
[07:31] <Bizzeh> yep
[07:31] <Bizzeh> i know
[07:31] <Bizzeh> but i dont know how
[07:31] <manwithaface> ok
[07:31] <eddy__> Blue Palm can you tell me a link or other of forums where i can know the right procedure for configurate it?
[07:31] <eddy__> TX
[07:31] <blue|palm> !wifi
[07:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:32] <blue|palm> there you go
[07:32] <eddy__> wow tx very much
[07:32] <blue|palm> no prob
[07:32] <magnus_> newbie: When I log in to another machine running Kubuntu I now get problems that after adding the correct password the screen is flashing a little bit and then I am back on the login page... My theory is eithr disc space problems or wrong set up for the screen... Any advice  Failsafe mode works
[07:32] <rockzman> How Can I load my AR5212 module to have my minipci up, I dunno its module name
[07:32] <manwithaface> Bizzet, open a Konsole and type  sudo kate /etc/fstab
[07:33] <Bizzeh> yep
[07:33] <manwithaface> Bizzet, nvm
[07:33] <manwithaface> instead run sudo konqueror
[07:33] <manwithaface> you can do it through the GUI
[07:34] <Bizzeh> ok, running konq as sudo now
[07:34] <manwithaface> try to access your drives
[07:34] <manwithaface> did that work?
[07:35] <blue|palm> hmm... does anybody know how to solve choppy video playback in mplayer?
[07:35] <Bizzeh> yes, i can access as sudo
[07:35] <manwithaface> ok
[07:35] <manwithaface> do you want to access as normal user?
[07:35] <manwithaface> or just when sudo'd?
[07:35] <Bizzeh> read only when normal user so i can watch video and play music
[07:35] <manwithaface> ok
[07:36] <manwithaface> right-click your drive
[07:36] <manwithaface> still in the sudo konq
[07:36] <Bizzeh> yep
[07:36] <manwithaface> and permissions
[07:36] <Bizzeh> yep
[07:36] <manwithaface> set others to can view content
[07:37] <Bizzeh> "could not change permitions for /media/tv"
[07:37] <blue|palm> !video
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:37] <eihnat> heh, funny quiestion. does anyone know how can i change user password from live CD? just installed kubuntu and managed to misspell password
[07:37] <eihnat> so cant login
[07:37] <rockzman> How Can I load my AR5212 module to have my minipci up, I dunno its module name
[07:37] <manwithaface> bizzeh, you are sudo?
[07:37] <Bizzeh> yep
[07:37] <mikki> is LimeWire available for linux ?
[07:38] <manwithaface> hmm
[07:38] <Bizzeh> i can navigate the drive in konq as sudo
[07:38] <eihnat> mikki: kinda, something similar, cant remember how it's called
[07:38] <Bizzeh> it just wont let me set the permitions
[07:38] <eihnat> i think frostwire or something
[07:38] <manwithaface> mikki just do torrent
[07:38] <mikki> eihnat: ok, thx
[07:39] <blue|palm> !driver
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <manwithaface> bizzeh, just for fun, go over to mounting and see if doing mount as read-only does anythign
[07:40] <blue|palm> !ati
[07:40] <magnus_> is there a good way to delete temp files
[07:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <manwithaface> Bizzeh, if you want, try changing the owner from root to your username
[07:41] <manwithaface> in the lower box
[07:41] <cyber-hazard> goodmorning, guys
[07:42] <frojnd> hello, what means Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"  in sectio inputdevice (mouse)
[07:42] <manwithaface> !ntfs
[07:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:43] <Bizzeh> manwithaface: on mount permitions it says "root user only, may disable/enable"
[07:43] <shinigami> hi.. i was thinking of installing kubuntu edgy on my acer laptop..but my laptop is a duel core. which edgy should i download? i386 or amd64 or powerpc?
[07:43] <shinigami> hi.. i was thinking of installing kubuntu edgy on my acer laptop..but my laptop is a dual core. which edgy should i download? i386 or amd64 or powerpc?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> stick to 386
[07:43] <Morbo> I would suggest i386
[07:43] <eddy__> i386 i suppose
[07:44] <shinigami> ok actually i installed dapper i386 on my acer laptop.. it only shows one cpu
[07:44] <manwithaface> Bizzeh, mount permissions?
[07:44] <shinigami> that's why i reinstalling edgy in
[07:44] <shinigami> how come it only show one cpu?? what should i do?
[07:45] <shinigami> how can i get the kernel with smp support?
[07:45] <Morbo> Probably because you do not have the smp kernel
[07:45] <Bizzeh> in "Disk and Filesystems"
[07:45] <shinigami> do i have to get it manually like..apt-get install something?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> !smp
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <frojnd> I wanna instal twin look so I have to edit xorg.conf and Change my protocol: Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" into:		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"  in sectio inputdevice (mouse), what's the difference between explorerPS/2 and IMPS/2 ?
[07:46] <Morbo> shinigami- You have AMD or Intel?
[07:47] <shinigami> intel
[07:47] <manwithaface> Bizzeh, I don't know, maybe someone else knows more
[07:47] <Morbo> sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp
[07:47] <Morbo> shinigami- /\
[07:47] <shinigami> oic.. ok hope it work
[07:48] <soulrider> i just installed visualboyadvance, but i cant find what the command to rin it is
[07:48] <soulrider> nevermind
[07:48] <shinigami> btw, what's the difference between apititude and apt-get ? text and menu?
[07:49] <frojnd> has anyone manage to install twin view LCD and SRT monitor?
[07:50] <extern> when I try to empty my trash, it says that access is denied to /home/user_name/.local/share/files/folder
[07:50] <manwithaface> !apt
[07:50] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:50] <extern> the file/folder doesn't even exist there
[07:50] <extern> how could I fix this?
[07:51] <shinigami> anyone got experience in installing kubuntu in acer laptops? how do i get the webcam, function keys, soft switches working? any all-in-one package?
[07:52] <shinigami> !acer
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <shinigami> !laptop
[07:52] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[07:52] <manwithaface> !linux-laptop
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-laptop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <tzbishop> I can see my Ubuntu computer on the notebook running win, but 'it doesn't have permission to access files on that remote directory'. How to fix it?
[07:53] <posingaspopular> anyone here willing to help me out with a little computer trouble?
[07:53] <cyber-hazard> tzbishop: you running samba on the laptop?
[07:54] <cyber-hazard> posingaspopular: go ahead and post the question, and someone who knows will answer :)
[07:54] <tzbishop> cyber-hazard: no. no samba on the laptop
[07:54] <tzbishop> cyber-hazard: running samba just on my GNU/Linux Ubuntu desktop
[07:55] <cyber-hazard> tzbishop: that's what I meant. sorry, been a long couple days. have you setup directories to be shared?
[07:55] <hyper_ch> whats the program's name that defines the default programs for kde appz?
[07:55] <tzbishop> cyber-hazard: I setup "Pictures" directory (/home/tzbishop/Pictures) to be available via swat (GUI interface)
[07:56] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: do you need the actual programs name, or just need to know how to get to that interface?
[07:56] <tzbishop> I can access this via konqueror normally: smb://linux-desktop/PICTURES
[07:56] <cyber-hazard> tzbishop: sorrry, that's about as far as my knowledge goes in that subject :( not very knolwedgable with samba yet
[07:57] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: the actual program name as I run xubuntu but like quite a few kde appz
[07:58] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: the "about" section in the help of that program just calls in the KDE Component Chooser
[07:58] <posingaspopular> My problem is that when I try and boot my Kubuntu system, after the log in (where I chose the user etc) my computer crashes. If it gets that far. Most of the time I hit the boot button on my computer and it doesn't respond at all. When it does boot, and I check the BIOS, the computer/mobo whatever tells me that 'due to an improper CPU speed, the system hung on last boot' or something to that degree. I changed the CPU s
[07:58] <posingaspopular> help the problem much. My brother tells me it's the kernel panicing, but I don't think so, I think it's my CPU (AMD Athlon 3200 XP+), but I don't know. I'm lost.
[07:59] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: in Kontact, where would that be?
 are u here?
[08:00] <cyber-hazard> posingaspopular: I don't know off the top of my head, but I remember seeing a few things about Athlon XP's kernel panicing. try typing the exact error in google.com/linux. that's what I did and if I recall the answer was in the first few matches
[08:00] <floriwi> hello
[08:00] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: i found it in the Control Center under Program Defaults, but I think that might just be a Kubuntu specific thing. not really sure otherwise.
[08:01] <floriwi> i have a question
 thanks. I'll try that.
 man i need ya
[08:01] <n0ne> :P
[08:01] <cyber-hazard> posingaspopular: np, wish i could have helped more
[08:01] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: what's the program's name?
[08:01] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: what binary is being called when you select that menu entry from the control center?
[08:02] <animimotus> hi
[08:03] <animimotus> does audiokonverter still maintained ?
[08:04] <andrea> hello
[08:04] <andrea> \server
[08:04] <andrea> \server irc.whiffle.org
[08:04] <frojnd> how can I fix that: I buy new LCD and settings are still for the old one. like section "screen" Monitor   "ADI MS-5P+" ....
[08:05] <frojnd> I bought* sorry for crappy englisg
[08:05] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: ps aux shows: systemsettings -caption System Settings -icon systemsettings -miniicon systemsettings
[08:05] <andrea> \list
[08:05] <rexbron> dpkg-reconfigure  xorg
[08:05] <cyber-hazard> andrea: needs to be a forward slash /
[08:06] <LjL> and i wouldn't do that anyway
[08:06] <voicu> hi, i installed firestarter recently and i'm curious: if someone attempts to connect to a port labeled VNC, Ms-sql-s or webadmin and so on, he doesn't have really good intentions right?
[08:06] <animimotus> I search somethings to transform wav to mp3 easyly with a gui
[08:06] <voicu> because i get tons of those and i'm starting to get paranoid :D
[08:06] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: nothing found "systemsettings"
[08:07] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: don't know what else to tell you. that's all I'm finding
[08:07] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: but kde-systemsettings   --> apt-cache search systemsettings   :)
[08:08] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: that last line made no sense to me. explain?
[08:08] <voicu> i mean, is it normal for random boxes to connect to the 1433 or 5900 port? if yes, why?
[08:09] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: I couldn't find any  systemsettings binary... but a search through the package cache returned kde-systemsetttings
[08:09] <cyber-hazard> voicu: it's really not that much of a concern unless you see multiple attempts from one host on the same or grouped ports, you might have a concern. random scanning happens all the time though
[08:09] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: ah, okay. didn't know if you were asking me to run a command or you found something :)
[08:11] <hyper_ch> cyber-hazard: thx for the help :)
[08:11] <VSpike> I'm getting "Unknown error 255" from K3b on a vanilla kubuntu system.. can anyone help me out?  Debug output at http://pastebin.co.uk/9061
[08:11] <voicu> cyber-hazard: well, yesterday the WAN fell because of an attack on my computer. today i configured the firewall and i'm getting from 2 to 20 attempts from the same ip
[08:11] <cyber-hazard> hyper_ch: np
[08:11] <cyber-hazard> voicu: then that could be an issue. what kind of attack was it?
[08:12] <eihnat> voicu: put that ip in hosts.deny
[08:12] <voicu> i don't remember how it is called but it involves pinging to the broadcast address of the WAN
[08:12] <voicu> that's what happened
[08:12] <eihnat> voicu: also dependes on kind of atack if u'll be able to fully protect urself
[08:13] <voicu> all ports are now blocked except the ones for torrents, direct connect and warcraft 3 :D
[08:13] <cyber-hazard> voicu: sending massive amounts of large pings? sounds like a DoS
[08:13] <voicu> not large pings, ping to the broadcast address that causes the network to ping itself until it fails to work properly
[08:14] <angasule_> I wanted to edit /etc/sudoers so I changed the permission from 0440 to 0640, little did I know that sudo would then refuse to work (since it checks for /etc/sudoers to be 0440), how do I change it back? reboot and rescue CD? or is there some way that doesn't involve a reboot?
[08:14] <voicu> that's like each computer pinging each other computer
[08:14] <voicu> angasule_: try booting in recovery mode
[08:14] <cyber-hazard> voicu: still a denial of service
[08:15] <voicu> hmm, ok, at least now i have a name for that whole mess :P
[08:15] <angasule_> bummer, I'll do it later today, I don't feel like rebooting
[08:15] <cyber-hazard> angsule_  don't need to edit permissions for sudoers file, just sudo vi it :)
[08:15] <Freddy2> hi
[08:15] <voicu> angasule_: maybe there's a better way i'm not aware of
[08:15] <angasule_> cyber-hazard: it said it was read only
[08:16] <cyber-hazard> voicu: try what eihnat suggested. also start googling for defenses for DoS attacks
[08:16] <cyber-hazard> angasule_: sudo allows you to edit/run as root. if you're root you just :wq! when you're done editing and it will write
[08:16] <cyber-hazard> angasule_: just know that it's read only for a reason. be very careful editing it
[08:16] <angasule_> cyber-hazard: well, too late for that anyway
[08:16] <voicu> cyber-hazard: there must be more than 20 ips to deny by now... anyway if there are only a few ports open i guess it's ok, right?
[08:17] <cyber-hazard> angasule_: i know, just for next time :)
[08:17] <eihnat> voicu: u can use denyhosts daemon
[08:17] <voicu> whoa, that reminds me, ssh is still open
[08:17] <rag> please help me about lsusb and usb mouse and keyboard not works for me
[08:17] <cyber-hazard> !security
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <rag> any led start on mouse
[08:17] <cyber-hazard> lame
[08:18] <cyber-hazard> voicu: i recommend finding a security room for more information, help and advice
[08:18] <rag> all usb on my laptop now works, but before it working!
[08:18] <rag> not works
[08:18] <posingaspopular> update: my cpu is booting fine, but i fucked up my BIOS again, so my HDD won't register. but that's easier to fix
[08:19] <rag> nothing now, all usb havent power :) the power is the problem
[08:19] <eihnat> voicu: that daemon puts ip automaticly into banned ips if it tries to do bad things. also u'll have to config it.
[08:20] <cyber-hazard> posingaspopular: glad your cpu is working now at least. did the search come up with something useful or did you just mess with it till it worked?
[08:20] <karmikaze> why is my .bash_history a binary file?
[08:21] <karmikaze> what am i supposed to use to read it?
[08:21] <posingaspopular> cyber- I just moved it to my room and hit boot. reset the bios to default which threw my jumpers out of whack. I redid the psu wiring so my disk drive doesnt have power and etc. etc. the bios is the problem
[08:21] <bipolar> Hey guys... whats the most secure way to do remote kdm logins? I'm not talking about running just one app like I can with ssh -X, but my entire desktop.
[08:22] <cyber-hazard> posingaspopular: if it's booting okay with your HDD unplugged, it might be a PSU issue
[08:22] <cyber-hazard> karmikaze: the history command in bash will display your bash history
[08:23] <karmikaze> is that a recent feature enforced by bash or by *ubuntu
[08:23] <cyber-hazard> karmikaze: not sure about the binary bit. only time i used my bash_history is from a bash prompt
[08:24] <karmikaze> -_-
[08:24] <karmikaze> i always use my bash_history cos i never remember the right syntax or names of anything im executing
[08:25] <voicu> well, thanks all
[08:25] <voicu> bye
[08:25] <voicu> :D
[08:26] <cyber-hazard> karmikaze: yeah, I do too, just with the $ history command instead of looking at the file
[08:33] <DarkWizdom> how do I switch to external monitor in kubuntu? os installed on laptop of course
[08:34] <fr0sted> what is that message that appears in my console when running Kdetv ? the application runs and also shows tv normaly, new lines appear with the following lines: V4L2Grabber::~V4L2Grabber(): wait(). V4L2Grabber::~V4L2Grabber(): deleted
[08:34] <fr0sted> kdetv: WARNING: V4L2Dev::enqueueBuffer(): buffer already queued: 1
[08:37] <frojnd> what sdould I put into  Identifier for the monitor:
[08:37] <frojnd> couse I am reconfiguring x
[08:38] <frojnd> and I bought samsung: SyncMaster 940b
[08:38] <frojnd> should I put SyncMaster 940b into identifier?
[08:39] <n0ne> Anyone here playing game Savage?
[08:42] <n0ne> Anyone here playing game Savage?
[08:43] <stonedragon12> n0ne: I tried it yesterday the first time!
[08:43] <cyber-hazard> too busy with work and sudoku to play Savage :P
  oh, maybe u can help me with installing?
 did u install in with .run package?
[08:44] <stonedragon12> yep, with sudo
[08:45] <stonedragon12> < n0ne >  but i can't bring it to work on linux after the update
[08:45] <stonedragon12> < n0ne > so i played it under win (shame on me)
[08:45] <barjoh10> hi cormir67
 same to me :(
[08:46] <stonedragon12> < n0ne > cool, so we can guess it's a package failure and we should post a bug?
 nop...cuz on some computers this package works
[08:48] <barjoh10> hello alpmar89
[08:49] <stonedragon12> lol kopete crashed...
[08:49] <alpmar89> barjoh10  wat up cuz
[08:50] <barjoh10> hello cormir67
[08:51] <frojnd> hello where can I sest my keyboard to layout I wanna use..
[08:51] <barjoh10> alpmar89 hey i am in love with ur cuz and cant stop think of her
[08:52] <cyber-hazard> barjoh10: that's not what love is. let ubotu tell you what love is
[08:52] <frojnd> now its us or smth, but I wanna make it si slovenian
[08:52] <cyber-hazard> !love
[08:52] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[08:52] <frojnd> couse halg of characters I cant find
[08:52] <frojnd> half*
[08:52] <barjoh10> alpmar89 tell me wat to do
[08:53] <cormir67> did u get the answers barjoh10
[08:53] <MikHell> Anybody knows how to go back one kernel version?
[08:54] <barjoh10> cormir67 no give them to me
[08:54] <cormir67> i dont know
[08:55] <barjoh10> cyber-hazard eat something
[08:55] <cormir67> what r we doing? barjoh10
[08:55] <barjoh10> hey cormir67 the answers
[08:56] <alpmar89> barjoh10  buay just go talk to she and tell she how u feel and tell she u want deh with she!
[08:56] <barjoh10> boay i don du that
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I won't ask
[08:57] <alpmar89> wat she seh
[08:57] <barjoh10> hey iam not doing nothing cormir67 just chilin out
[08:58] <K-Ryan> barjok10 you said you are "not doing nothing"
[08:58] <K-Ryan> That means you "are" doing something
[08:58] <K-Ryan> *barjoh10
[08:58] <barjoh10> nothing alpmar89 i just say yes and we r going out
[08:58] <barjoh10> yes k-ryan what
[08:59] <K-Ryan> If you are "not doing nothing" you ARE "doing something"
[08:59] <alpmar89> y u no stop lie battybuay barjoh10
[08:59] <barjoh10> hey cormir67 u no talking man i mean gail
[09:00] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how I can tell Adept to just apply all updates? Instead of going through each one and clicking update.
[09:00] <barjoh10> alpmar89 ask her ur selgf
[09:02] <barjoh10> heycormir67 talk
[09:02] <alpmar89> barjoh10  how come i no c u with she
[09:02] <freshburn> ok i have a really annoying thing that if someone could help me with id greatly appreciate
[09:02] <cormir67> What u wantbarjoh10
[09:02] <K-Ryan> What's up freshburn?
[09:03] <freshburn> when im in konqueror and i click in the adress bar i want it to select all the current location
[09:03] <freshburn> ive looked in settings for konq but may have missed it
[09:03] <K-Ryan> Just have to right click
[09:03] <freshburn> isntead of left
[09:03] <freshburn> sweet
[09:03] <K-Ryan> I have the same problem, it's just a Konqueror thing
[09:03] <K-Ryan> No, right click then click select all
[09:03] <barjoh10> u no wa see me whith she alpmar89
[09:04] <freshburn> there has to be a way to make it act like FF, or make FF do the file managing and stuff that konw does, i really like konq but having to hold down del then backspace, then type what i want there is REALLY annoying
[09:04] <cormir67> What talk clearly barjoh10
[09:05] <barjoh10> today alpmar89 after classes i would be at the auditorioum
[09:05] <K-Ryan> barjoh10 why do you talk like that?
[09:05] <Lynoure> K-Ryan: not just him, alpmar89 too, it seems
[09:05] <freshburn> maybe an STD
[09:05] <freshburn> j/k
[09:05] <cormir67> Laters!barjoh10
[09:06] <K-Ryan> freshburn, you just can't. Right click>Select all>Backspace
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Yes Lynoure but he's not talking right now
[09:06] <barjoh10> hey cormir67 i was asking if a rat ate ur tounge cause u dont talk(type)
[09:06] <K-Ryan> If a rat did eat his tongue, it wouldn't explain him not typing...
[09:06] <Lynoure> K-Ryan: The bigger question is why they do that talking _here_
[09:07] <freshburn> does konq have any kind of scripting support? hmmm i could make a shorcut for my mid mouse button to do rt click select all backspace? is that possible?
[09:07] <barjoh10> heyk-Ryan how or what u mean by that
[09:07] <K-Ryan> possibly
[09:08] <K-Ryan> barjoh10 do you speak English?
[09:08] <K-Ryan> As your first language that is.
[09:09] <barjoh10> yes but i am not talking to u so shush! ok
[09:09] <K-Ryan> If you speak English as your first language, you have two options.
[09:09] <barjoh10> understand K-ryan
[09:09] <Lynoure> barjoh10: Do you need help with Kubuntu?
[09:09] <K-Ryan> A Talk right, or B Learn how to talk right then see A
[09:09] <barjoh10> no thanks Lynoure
[09:10] <K-Ryan> Then you shouldn't be here barjoh10
[09:10] <K-Ryan> This channel is for people who need help with Kubuntu.
[09:10] <K-Ryan> ...who speak English
[09:10] <alpmar89> Lynoure and Kryan who is this?
[09:11] <barjoh10> y k-ryan iam talking to alpmar89 is that u i guess not
[09:11] <Lynoure> alpmar89: Who is who?
[09:11] <K-Ryan> If you don't need help with Kubuntu go talk somewhere else.
[09:11] <Zamber> anybody with beryl onboard?
[09:11] <K-Ryan> !beryl | Zamber
[09:11] <ubotu> Zamber: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:11] <Lynoure> alpmar89: Kubuntu is the Linux distribution this channel is all about. :)
[09:12] <Zamber> K-Ryan I have a working beryl with aixgl but one thing is kinda strange
[09:12] <K-Ryan> Zamber I never got Beryl but I figured that might help out.
[09:12] <K-Ryan> Sorry
[09:12] <Zamber> when a window wants focus it's not blinking in the window bar
[09:12] <Zamber> np ;)
[09:12] <gdiebel> when I triple click on a line in konsole it selects the whole line. then middle clicks pastes it, but it causes a return and tries to run the line. can i paste it without the carriage return at the end?
[09:13] <K-Ryan> just press ctrl+v
[09:13] <K-Ryan> (to gdiebel)
[09:13] <freshburn> kryan wanna know 2 cool things?
[09:13] <K-Ryan> Sure thing
[09:14] <gdiebel> K-Ryan: ctrl-v does not paste in konsole
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Doesn't work? Hrmm, thought you could.
[09:14] <freshburn> one-hit the stupid white X clear box thing and then click into the location bar
[09:14] <freshburn> OR and this is the best when you click into the location bar
[09:14] <K-Ryan> ah, i see what you mean
[09:14] <freshburn> double click instead of single click
[09:14] <freshburn> and it does what we wanted
[09:14] <gdiebel> nah that just selects a word
[09:14] <K-Ryan> i knew about double click
[09:14] <K-Ryan> if you triple click i think it selects the word
[09:15] <freshburn> double click selects the whole location
[09:15] <K-Ryan> hrmm, thats firefox i guess
[09:15] <K-Ryan> triple click does nothing, ignore that =P
[09:15] <freshburn> i just tried it
[09:15] <K-Ryan> yeah i tried double too
[09:15] <freshburn> in winblows it like double click for word triple for line
[09:15] <K-Ryan> was it?
[09:16] <K-Ryan> Oh well, we all know Linux > Micro$oft
[09:16] <freshburn> so if i just learn to always double click into the location bar then whatever i type will overwrite whats there
[09:16] <sampan> freshburn  cntl-l will clear the konq location and put your cursor there (so you can type a new location)
[09:16] <freshburn> i can deal with that
[09:16] <barjoh10> hello alpmar89 dont pay mind to    those talks
[09:16] <freshburn> sampan hmmm thats probably good to know too thanks
[09:16] <alpmar89> Buay barjoh10 wat all homework we gat?
[09:16] <K-Ryan> barjoh10 If you are not going to talk about Kubuntu please leave.
[09:17] <K-Ryan> =P
[09:17] <gdiebel> I think perhaps I asked in the wrong channel
[09:17] <barjoh10> study i guess alpmar89
[09:17] <freshburn> but already removed win from all 3 pcs and 2 laptop
[09:17] <K-Ryan> Oh wow
[09:17] <sampan> not quite the same as firefox's (cntl-l selects the whole location so you can cntl-c, cntl-v, cntl-x or whatever)
[09:17] <K-Ryan> I kept it for gaming =P
[09:17] <barjoh10> no k-ryan no no
[09:17] <animimotus> someone use soundkonverter ?
[09:17] <K-Ryan> barjoh10 Yes, this channel is for Kubuntu not your little chit chat with your friend.
[09:18] <freshburn> i have win4linpro running xp for that
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Now if you aren't going to talk about Kubuntu, please leave. This is not the place for you.
[09:18] <freshburn> on one pc only (the kids)
[09:18] <animimotus> nothins seems happen :\
[09:18] <animimotus> +g
[09:18] <freshburn> my "kid" is 4
[09:19] <K-Ryan> Ah
[09:19] <K-Ryan> I figured you meant kid by my age kind of
[09:19] <K-Ryan> 15 almost 16
[09:19] <freshburn> but he is computer savvy like me
[09:19] <barjoh10> k-ryan i will ignore u
[09:19] <freshburn> shoot im only 25 wife is 21
[09:19] <freshburn> now if i could get the touchpad on my hplaptop to stop pasting stuff all over i would be gold
[09:19] <K-Ryan> barjoh10 if you do not leave you will be removed from the channel.
[09:20] <freshburn> tada /ignore barjoh10
[09:20] <K-Ryan> He still shouldn't be here
[09:20] <voicu> anyone know how to disable listing the contents of a directory in apache2 (i.e. when there isn't a index.* file)
[09:20] <freshburn> agreed
[09:21] <alpmar89> Hey Kryan just leave us alone because we are not talking to you
[09:21] <barjoh10> o tanks fresh burn ur ignored now that burns
[09:21] <K-Ryan> alpmar89 this channel is meant for talking about Kubuntu
[09:21] <K-Ryan> Not your girlfriend and homework.
[09:21] <K-Ryan> Take it somewhere else.
[09:21] <Morbo> alpmar89- I suggest #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:22] <K-Ryan> Morbo they are barely speaking English
[09:22] <Morbo> Oh.  I haven't been following :)
[09:22] <freshburn> kittens give morbo gas
[09:22] <freshburn> and not kryan is rude to foreigners
[09:22] <freshburn> they are just acting like little script kiddies
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Yeah I'll help the foreigners out
[09:23] <firecrotc1> !xen
[09:23] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:23] <freshburn> they belong on efnet or undernet
[09:23] <K-Ryan> I'd even talk to them if they spoke Spanish
[09:23] <gdiebel> K-Ryan does not seem to realize that incessantly informing people to keep on topic is just as annoying as their offtopic chitchat
[09:23] <firecrotc1> !botsnack
[09:23] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:23] <freshburn> with the rest of the children
[09:23] <freshburn> lol
[09:23] <freshburn> !botbeer
[09:23] <K-Ryan> gdiebel They are barely speaking English, and they aren't talking about Kubuntu
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botbeer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <K-Ryan> It's not the place for them
[09:24] <freshburn> bots need beer too
[09:24] <freshburn> kind of like geeks and love
[09:24] <freshburn> they need it too
[09:24] <K-Ryan> !love
[09:24] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[09:24] <K-Ryan> That one makes me laugh =)
[09:24] <firecrotc1> Heh
[09:24] <freshburn> !windows
[09:24] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:24] <K-Ryan> And that one =)
[09:24] <freshburn> lol mental health
[09:24] <K-Ryan> I was about to post that one too
[09:24] <freshburn> !equivalents
[09:24] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:24] <tobami> can someone help me getting Xephyr to run?
[09:25] <K-Ryan> !Xephyr
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Xephyr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <firecrotc1> !OSX
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OSX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <freshburn> !dialupsucks
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dialupsucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <K-Ryan> !dialup
[09:25] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:25] <freshburn> k im outa here
[09:25] <Hawkwind> !botabuse
[09:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:25] <freshburn> cya l8tr
[09:25] <K-Ryan> Cya
[09:25] <K-Ryan> Hawkwind isn't that an oxymoron?
[09:25] <tobami> ubotu: thanks but I already tried
[09:26] <K-Ryan> "!botabuse"
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Think about it
[09:26] <Hawkwind> K-Ryan: No.  Please stop doing it in the channel and do it in pm if you wish to play
[09:26] <freshburn> !abusebot
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abusebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <K-Ryan> lol
[09:26] <freshburn> !ilovethatbot
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Sorry Hawkwind
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ilovethatbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <Hawkwind> freshburn: Enough!
[09:26] <tobami> lol
[09:27] <K-Ryan> "!mast" I'm not going to finish that one..
[09:27] <tobami> I fell for it
[09:28] <frojnd> I tried to sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:28] <frojnd> and: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:28] <frojnd> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:28] <frojnd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1967/
[09:28] <frojnd> what can I do to reconfigure x :S
[09:28] <fr0sted> although i removed with adept_manager mythtv , i still see mythtv rests in my computer. like: /etc/rc6.d/K24mythtv-backend how can iremove everything that has to do with mythtv ?
[09:32] <binks> off topc whats the name of that flm sommat like notralibra a funny one
[09:33] <soulrider> hi
[09:33] <paulcarpenter> notra libre?
[09:33] <ninHer> hi soulrider
[09:33] <soulrider> how can i find out what model my mobo is? i dont think i have the manual around
[09:34] <paulcarpenter> mobo?
[09:34] <soulrider> mother board
[09:34] <firecrotc1> soulrider: open the case and look on the board itself
[09:34] <w00t_sauce> I'm having some troule setting up a dock
[09:35] <soulrider> firecrotc1: i cant find the model on it
[09:35] <soulrider> i know its an intel board
[09:36] <Hawkwind> soulrider: lspci might tell you, or lshw
[09:36] <soulrider> hey Hawkwind
[09:36] <soulrider> i just found the manual :P
[09:36] <K-Ryan> lspci seems to work
[09:36] <Hawkwind> Or read the manual 
[09:36] <K-Ryan> for me anyway
[09:36] <vit_> do you spanish?
[09:36] <K-Ryan> !es
[09:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:37] <voicu> what is the Omirr port?
[09:37] <soulrider> yeah Hawkwind im gonna read the manual now :P
[09:37] <binks> aha nacho libre
[09:38] <K-Ryan> ?
[09:39] <wolfwalker> Are there no good trackers for ubuntu?
[09:39] <K-Ryan> trackers?
[09:39] <soulrider> wolfwalker: yes
[09:39] <soulrider> on the official site there are torrents
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Oh! Tracker!
[09:39] <binks> yeah trackers india girls whoan tell whats shoes you had on days after you left
[09:40] <binks> ;)
[09:40] <wolfwalker> sigh
[09:40] <wolfwalker> Wrong tracker binks
[09:40] <wolfwalker> I mean audio trackers
[09:40] <wolfwalker> Like, you load a sample of one note of a piano
[09:40] <wolfwalker> And it can interpolate it into different keys
[09:40] <wolfwalker> And you slot the keys in a "track"
[09:41] <K-Ryan> That's neat
[09:41] <wolfwalker> And you overlay other tracks for different instruments
[09:41] <wolfwalker> Or chords of a piano or something
[09:41] <wolfwalker> So no trackers for Linux?
[09:41] <paulcarpenter> audacity?
[09:41] <binks> sorry but again if its music you play you NEED fretsonfire
[09:41] <wolfwalker> No, not Audacity. That's a recorder/editor
[09:41] <wolfwalker> And a very good one
[09:42] <binks> wolf you lost mee im tone deff
[09:42] <wolfwalker> But to use it as a sequencer or tracker would be......... tedious at best
[09:42] <Lynoure> wolfwalker: If you are a musician, I could need your help... May I /msg you?
[09:44] <wolfwalker> Soitenly
[09:44] <voicu> firestarter says i'm conected to someone but netstat doesn't show anything
[09:45] <voicu> it on port 42101 which apparently is for ssh2 and that scares me
[09:45] <voicu> how can i find out which process started the connection?
[09:45] <frojnd> Experienced users can use any variant supported by the selected XKB layout.  If the xkeyboard-config package has been unpacked, seethe /etc/X11/xkb/symbols directory for the file corresponding to your selected layout for available variants.    I eneterd /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/si couse I an from slovenia... now I am in si file and what am I looking for?
[09:47] <jdfellow> i am having an intermittent sound problem  please help yes i have read all the faqs etc.
[09:47] <voicu> is the problem intermittent or the sound? :P
[09:47] <jdfellow> and i have been running various distros of linux for a while with no sound problems except this one
[09:48] <paulcarpenter> what type of sound problem?
[09:49] <jdfellow> when i go to play an mp3 or listen to a stream using several audio apps the sound plays and halts then plays some more
[09:49] <hbbk> hi
[09:49] <hbbk> need some help please
[09:49] <wolfwalker> jdfellow, that is because you are taxing your processor, probably
[09:49] <wolfwalker> Go easy on the poor thing
[09:50] <wolfwalker> Is not so easy for an older processor with little ram to handle a lot of audio programs at once.
[09:50] <hbbk> I recentry upgraded from dapper to edgy and every thing seems ok except that my desktop is wider than my screen, that really annoying
[09:50] <jdfellow> when i restart the computer the problem is gone do not know why it starts nor how to stop it using kde system guard am running alsa
[09:50] <hbbk> there is no way to change that from kcontrol
[09:50] <jdfellow> no not even close
[09:50] <hbbk> thats the strangest thing
[09:50] <Brandano> Nicely crowded in her. Anyone can guide me through relpacing grub with lilo in a kubuntu install? grub doesn't seem to like my hpt370 fakeraid controller
[09:51] <jdfellow> my processor is plenty fast and i have 750 megs of memory
[09:51] <hbbk> any clue please
[09:51] <hbbk> ?
[09:51] <wolfwalker> Ah
[09:51] <wolfwalker> That's different then
[09:51] <jdfellow> the problem goes away when i restart so what is going on?
[09:52] <wolfwalker> What several audio programs, specifically, are you running at the same time?
[09:52] <jdfellow> sometimes it seems to happen after i start firefox
[09:53] <hbbk> nobody could help me ?
[09:53] <jdfellow> but firefox was closed and there were no processes running in the background
[09:53] <adaptr> I guess not
[09:53] <jdfellow> hello hbbk
[09:53] <hbbk> hello
[09:53] <wolfwalker> There's no way to change the screen size?
[09:54] <hbbk> not from kcontrol at least
[09:54] <hbbk> I don't find where
[09:54] <jdfellow> just a sec
[09:54] <hbbk> and I don' really whant to hand edit xorg.conf
[09:54] <MaxDamage``> hello to everyone :)
[09:55] <jdfellow> try system settings from the menu
[09:55] <hbbk> there is nothing about changind screen size
[09:56] <jdfellow> then under Computer Administration Monitor and Display
[09:56] <jdfellow> ah but there is
[09:56] <me_> i cant install anything anymore... could anyone help me pls... i get this error everytimes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1970/
[09:57] <jdfellow> hey Admiral can you help with my sound problem
[09:57] <Renaldo> me_ apt-get -f install
[09:57] <raeez> could somebody assist me with video playback issues?
[09:57] <jdfellow> like what
[09:58] <raeez> choppy video playback
[09:58] <raeez> only in full screen mode though
[09:58] <jdfellow> what player
[09:58] <frojnd> Experienced users can use any variant supported by the selected XKB layout.  If the xkeyboard-config package has been unpacked, seethe /etc/X11/xkb/symbols directory for the file corresponding to your selected layout for available variants.    I eneterd /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/si couse I an from slovenia... now I am in si file and what am I looking for?
[09:58] <raeez> every single one ive tried, from kaffiene through totem to mplayer
[09:59] <mindspin> vlc?
[09:59] <cj_> hi
[09:59] <cj_> How would i disable Xwindows/Kde from running on startup?
[09:59] <hbbk> I could not find any Computer Administration Monitor and Display ...
[10:00] <raeez> vlc works great thanks
[10:00] <raeez> is there any way i could get mplayer to work though?
[10:00] <jdfellow> have tried mplayer using different settings for video such as x11 xv perhaps reinstalling accelerated graphic driver
[10:00] <cj_> How would i disable Xwindows/Kde from running on startup? <<<< Any idea?
[10:01] <blue|palm> I have experimented with the various video drivers (in mplayer) and i get error messages for all of them... i have installed and reinstalled the latest ati driver
[10:01] <jdfellow> oh hbbk what are we going to do
[10:01] <mindspin> cj- you can log in in different modes from the welcome screen
[10:01] <blue|palm> mplayer actually makes the video quality look alot nicer than vlc :( pity its not working
[10:01] <freshburn> does anyone use the HSF linuxant drivers?
[10:01] <hbbk> sorry ?
[10:01] <jdfellow> could you find the blue and green icon that says Computer Administration?
[10:02] <jdfellow> and when you do ... there should be a heading for Monitor and Display
[10:02] <hbbk> yes but no way to change resolution in it !!!
[10:02] <me_> when i try this i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1971/
[10:02] <freshburn> yeah i figured that much, well when someone does tell them to email me thier license.key
[10:02] <freshburn> lol
[10:02] <freshburn> this sucks
[10:03] <jdfellow> so you are running kubuntu edgy correct so am i
[10:03] <hbbk> yes
[10:03] <hbbk> I have no Monitor and Display
[10:04] <jdfellow> do you have an icon for Monitor and Display?
[10:04] <blue|palm> !aptfix
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <blue|palm> !adeptfix
[10:04] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:04] <hbbk> no
[10:04] <stdin> !adeptcrashfix
[10:04] <frojnd> When in doubt, this value should be left blank.
[10:05] <frojnd> Keyboard options:
[10:05] <frojnd> and than its:
[10:05] <frojnd>  lv3:ralt_switch_____
[10:05] <frojnd> should I enter this or delite it and than press ok
[10:05] <jdfellow> out of curiosity what icons are there listed under Computer Administration then?
[10:05] <blue|palm> help!! i think my dpkg may be broken :(
[10:06] <hbbk> in fact it is in french
[10:06] <blue|palm> whenever i use apt-get to install something it crashes
[10:06] <jdfellow> well i have a computer screen icon with an
[10:07] <freshburn> bluepalm whats the error
[10:07] <hbbk> I have 4 rows 'personal' 'behavior' 'computer admin' 'network' (kind of easy translations :-))
[10:07] <jdfellow> X in it and this icon controls the monitor settings
[10:07] <jdfellow> so what is listed under Computer Admin
[10:08] <me_> so noone has any idea to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1971/
[10:08] <hbbk> and I have no such icon nothing looking like managing screens
[10:08] <hbbk> 'date' keyboard' sound printer ... thats all
[10:08] <jdfellow> are there 6 icons ?
[10:08] <hbbk> 4
[10:08] <blue|palm> freshburn, it repeatedly complains about dependancy problems
[10:08] <me_> the error was coused when i used this command: root@me-desktop:/home/me# apt-get -f install
[10:08] <jdfellow> then you probably need to install nvidia drivers
[10:09] <hbbk> already installed ...
[10:09] <blue|palm> freshburn dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of speedbar:
[10:09] <freshburn> me_ use the -f option
[10:09] <jdfellow> or what ever drivers work w/ your system then it will probably put an icon in there
[10:09] <freshburn> but its a no-takebacks kind of thing
[10:09] <freshburn> i hope you have good backups
[10:09] <jdfellow> don't be affraid of xorg  xorg is your friend
[10:09] <blue|palm> xorg is evil with drivers
[10:10] <freshburn> what exactly are you wanting to install?
[10:10] <me_> the -f option? i used allready: apt-get -f install do u mean that?
[10:10] <hbbk> root@hbbk:~# dpkg -l '*nvidia*' | grep ^i
[10:10] <hbbk> ii  nvidia-glx             1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-10.1 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[10:10] <hbbk> ii  nvidia-kernel-common   20051028+1ubuntu7      NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[10:10] <freshburn> bluepalm try using a package manager
[10:10] <stdin> me_: there is a way to fix that, but apt can't do it
[10:10] <freshburn> so it gets all dependancies
[10:10] <blue|palm> well i tried to install kguitar first... that didnt work, then i tried OGRE, that didnt work, then i tried just plain upgrading...
[10:11] <me_> and me neither
[10:11] <jdfellow> driver installation can be tricky
[10:11] <blue|palm> packagemanager like adept manager
[10:11] <blue|palm> driver installation can be evil :(
[10:11] <stdin> me_: you need to run "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/tzdata_2006p-1_all.deb && sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[10:11] <freshburn> i had the same kind of issues after screwing with my sources.lst you didnt screw with your sources.lst did you
[10:11] <hbbk> it worked for me 2h before when I was under dapper
[10:11] <jdfellow> read the tutorials on line will help very important to follow the directions to the letter
[10:12] <freshburn> and stdin happened to be the one who helped me fix it so listen to what he/she says lol now thats timing
[10:12] <blue|palm> didnt touch it
[10:12] <tfault> Does anyone know how to resize a partition *backwards* without loosing data?
[10:12] <stdin> freshburn: i'm a he thanks :P
[10:12] <kkosmo> tfault
[10:12] <kkosmo> that
[10:12] <kkosmo> what i need
[10:12] <freshburn> bluepalm i have no complaints with adept other than i touch things i shouldnt and it lets me
[10:12] <jdfellow> anyway unless someone wants to tackle my intermittent sound glitches i am out of here
[10:12] <kkosmo> excectly
[10:12] <freshburn> yw
[10:12] <blue|palm> lol
[10:13] <hbbk> thnks for you help
[10:13] <kkosmo> to resize a partiton witout loseing data
[10:13] <jdfellow> wish you well
[10:13] <blue|palm> stdin, could you help me? dpkg seems to be spitting errors at me whenever i try to update through apt or adept
[10:13] <blue|palm> !adeptfix
[10:13] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:13] <stdin> blue|palm: what's the errors you get ?
[10:14] <me_> stdin: jeeeha ty very much now its working :)
[10:14] <blue|palm> stdin: example... sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:14] <freshburn> when i enter "administrator mode" to change things in system settings or when i open adept it used to ask me my password and now it doesnt, does anyone know why? and how to change it back?
[10:14] <kkosmo> stdin
[10:14] <tfault> Do you need to expand an partition to the free space before or after a partition?
[10:14] <kkosmo> ?
[10:14] <tfault> kkosmo?
[10:14] <blue|palm> stdin: sorry, oops i meant this:
[10:14] <blue|palm> dpkg: error processing eieio (--configure):
[10:14] <blue|palm>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:14] <kkosmo> ?
[10:15] <kkosmo> tfault
[10:15] <tfault> Do you need to expand an partition to the free space *before* or *after* a partition, kkosmo?
[10:15] <kkosmo> i have a partiton and a free space
[10:15] <stdin> blue|palm: that just tells me that there was a problem configuring the package
[10:15] <kkosmo> and i want to add the free space
[10:15] <freshburn> is the free space before or after the partition?
[10:15] <kkosmo> to my partitoion
[10:15] <freshburn> oh just use qtparted
[10:15] <kkosmo> after
[10:15] <blue|palm> lol thats the problem im getting
[10:15] <freshburn> or gparted
[10:16] <blue|palm> stdin: I cant run adept or apt...
[10:16] <kkosmo> what changed
[10:16] <kkosmo> ?
[10:16] <stdin> blue|palm: yes, but there is more info that you aren't shoeing me :P
[10:16] <blue|palm> stdin:
[10:16] <blue|palm> dpkg: error processing eieio (--configure):
[10:16] <blue|palm>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:16] <blue|palm> oops sorry
[10:16] <blue|palm> that was a mistake...
[10:16] <stdin> blue|palm: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and give me the whole output on pastebin
[10:17] <jdfellow> quit
[10:17] <blue|palm> ok
[10:18] <w00t_sauce> I'm having some troule setting up a dock
[10:18] <freshburn> on which lake?
[10:19] <freshburn> i like to fish
[10:19] <freshburn> j/k
[10:19] <freshburn> sorry it had to be done
[10:20] <tfault> kkosmo: Can you show me the output of "fdisk -l /dev/[harddisk name] " (replace [harddisk name]  with something like hda, sdb..)?
[10:20] <kkosmo> ok
[10:20] <BluesKaj> we have ppl seting up icefishing shacks on the local lakes hered , ...finally  the freeze up is only 4 weeks late thei yr
[10:21] <BluesKaj> this yr
[10:21] <kkosmo> Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40060403712 bytes
[10:21] <kkosmo> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4870 cylinders
[10:21] <kkosmo> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:21] <kkosmo> 
[10:21] <kkosmo>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:21] <tfault> kkosmo: Put the output in a "paste-bin"!
[10:21] <kkosmo> /dev/hda1               1        2358    18940603+  83  Linux
[10:21] <kkosmo> /dev/hda2            2359        2435      618502+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:21] <kkosmo> /dev/hda3            2436        4870    19559137+  83  Linux
[10:21] <kkosmo> 
[10:21] <Hawkwind> !paste | kkosmo
[10:21] <ubotu> kkosmo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <BluesKaj> kkosmo | pastebin!
[10:21] <kkosmo> ooo
[10:21] <kkosmo> ok
[10:22] <tfault> kkosmo: What partition would you like to resize?
[10:22] <kkosmo> i be ok
[10:22] <kkosmo> i use
[10:22] <kkosmo> qtparted
[10:22] <tfault> kkosmo: Okay!
[10:22] <BluesKaj> if the ubuntu-nl is too clogged up, use www.pastebin.ca
[10:22] <blue|palm> stdin: http://pastebin.com/861599
[10:23] <wilman> is there any way i can install java runtime on ubuntu edgy?
[10:23] <wilman> java!
[10:23] <wilman> !java
[10:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:24] <stdin> blue|palm: holy c**p, you're in quite a mess there
[10:25] <blue|palm> :(
[10:25] <yeti_> salut tout le monde!
[10:26] <blue|palm> stdin the only thing ive tinkered with was the driver for my radeon x1900
[10:26] <yeti_> ahh c'est en train de me brouter la console qui veut rien savoir
[10:26] <stdin> !fr | yeti_
[10:26] <ubotu> yeti_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:26] <yeti_> sorry
[10:26] <yeti_> thanks
[10:26] <blue|palm> stdin: but my kubuntu installation is terrible... from day one already
[10:27] <cyber-hazard> blue|palm: what speed did you burn kubuntu at?
[10:27] <soulrider> i hope for feistry they make the installer better so that you can select packages and stuff
[10:27] <blue|palm> stdin: 4x
[10:27] <soulrider> cyber-hazard: that doesnt matter at all
[10:27] <cyber-hazard> soulrider: amen to that
[10:27] <blue|palm> stdin: onto a RW
[10:27] <soulrider> it doesnt matter at what speed you burn a CD DVD or whatever
[10:27] <cyber-hazard> soulrider: yeah, it does. if you burn it too quickly and the burn doesn't take as well as it should then the install can become wack. trust me, it's happened to me many times
[10:28] <cyber-hazard> however, at x4, that's probably not the issue
[10:28] <blue|palm> the cd behaved strangely, sometimes the livecd booted, but 8/10 it didnt, so i would keep restarting my pc until it did
[10:28] <blue|palm> maybe thats why
[10:28] <soulrider> what do you mean "doesnt take as well as it should"?
[10:28] <blue|palm> errors
[10:28] <blue|palm> blocks skipped
[10:28] <soulrider> on the CD, when you boot
[10:28] <soulrider> you can check it for defects
[10:28] <cyber-hazard> soulrider: errors in the burn. sometimes the data doesn't get burned completely. incomplete blocks, etc
[10:28] <blue|palm> yeah, but that too worked sometimes and sometimes it didnt
[10:28] <blue|palm> lol
[10:29] <soulrider> well, thats not because of the speed, its your burner :P
[10:29] <kkosmo> s
[10:29] <kkosmo> a
[10:29] <cyber-hazard> soulrider: doesn't catch everything, though it does cause a lot
[10:29] <cyber-hazard> soulrider: right, but regardless, if your burner is crap, a lot of times you can correct it by burning slower
[10:30] <stdin> blue|palm: there is some problem with the pre-installation script of emacs21 that's causing all the errors there
[10:30] <blue|palm> I constantly get an error when booting kubuntu from my hdd, that during the boot it gets stuck at the screen with blue 'kubuntu' text and a blue loading bar... even caps lock doesnt respond when it gets into that frozen state, so i have to constantly restart it and try again and again  to get it work
[10:30] <blue|palm> so how do i remove emacs from my
[10:31] <blue|palm> 'install' list
[10:31] <blue|palm> or whatever
[10:31] <blue|palm> :)
[10:31] <soulrider> blue|palm: can you boot into safe mode ?
[10:31] <blue|palm> yes
[10:31] <blue|palm> that always works
[10:31] <stdin> sudo apt-get --pure remove emacs21 could work
[10:31] <blue|palm> and booting into xp also works
[10:31] <soulrider> i would do
[10:32] <soulrider> aptitude purge not apt-get --purge
[10:32] <soulrider> sudo aptitude purge emacs21
[10:32] <soulrider> blue|palm: was it allways like that or did it use to work ?
[10:32] <blue|palm> from the time i installed it :(
[10:32] <blue|palm> so always
[10:32] <blue|palm> i had suse and xp before this
[10:32] <blue|palm> there were no problems like this though
[10:33] <steevc> I'm having trouble getting X running since installing a graphics card. It's an old MX400, so I installed the nvidia-glx-legacy driver. When I run startx I get an error about not being able to start ksmserver(?) then it goes back to the console. Only error I can see in the xorg log is about the security policy file. Any ideas?
[10:33] <yeti_> do you know why I have this message : su: Authentication failure??
[10:33] <blue|palm> souldrider: thanks, the purge worked
[10:33] <yeti_> I have enter the good password
[10:33] <kkosmo> stdin
[10:33] <soulrider> blue|palm: i would suggest burning it again, on a CD-R not a RW (sometimes RW can be a POS)
[10:33] <kkosmo> ??
[10:33] <soulrider> and reinstalling
[10:34] <cyber-hazard> i just wanna say, the fact that my iPod works out of the box on kubuntu is effing brilliant
[10:34] <blue|palm> yeah, but i dloaded so much now that it would have all gone to a waste :( Ive got capped internet
[10:34] <cyber-hazard> makes me so happy
[10:34] <stdin> yeti_: use sudo not su
[10:34] <blue|palm> cyber-hazard did you use amarok?
[10:34] <sergio> #ubuntu-it
[10:34] <kkosmo> somone can help me i have a problem i delete a partiton in cfdisk its show me that have free space from deleted partiton i am quit from the cfdisk and its show agein the partiton that i delete what i need to do ?
[10:34] <yeti_> ok I'ill try
[10:35] <soulrider> blue|palm: what kind of connection do you have ?
[10:35] <stdin> kkosmo: you need to write the changes before you quit cfdisk
[10:35] <kkosmo> ooo ok
[10:35] <blue|palm> 4 Mbps dload 384k upload 10GB cap
[10:35] <kkosmo> but its dont destroy
[10:35] <kkosmo> my information
[10:35] <kkosmo> on the
[10:35] <cyber-hazard> blue|palm: yes I do
[10:35] <kkosmo> hda1
[10:35] <kkosmo> ?
[10:35] <soulrider> oh, the cap sucks
[10:35] <stdin> yeti_: the way to get a root shell is: sudo -i
[10:35] <soulrider> blue|palm: do you still have the image on your hard drive or did you delete it ?
[10:36] <blue|palm> I still have it, i wouldnt delete it
[10:36] <soulrider> ahh
[10:36] <frojnd> please help
[10:36] <blue|palm> nice os :)
[10:36] <soulrider> i would suggest doing this blue|palm
[10:36] <blue|palm> wish it would work though
[10:36] <dwidmann> blue|palm: that cap hurts almost as bad as mine
[10:36] <blue|palm> lol, it sucks
[10:36] <soulrider> heck the md5 sum, if its all good, burn it into a CD-R
[10:36] <blue|palm> k
[10:36] <soulrider> at a slower speed just in case
[10:36] <blue|palm> is there no way i can save the stuff ive dloaded?
[10:37] <kkosmo> stdin
[10:37] <blue|palm> can i make my own cdr repository or something?
[10:37] <soulrider> blue|palm: the programs you mean ?
[10:37] <kkosmo> you mean to make the root user
[10:37] <blue|palm> yeah
[10:37] <kkosmo> to get root shell
[10:37] <soulrider> sure you can :)
[10:37] <mace__> hi what can i do here: kdesu: cannot connect to X serve
[10:37] <blue|palm> Ive dloaded about 1 GB
[10:37] <blue|palm> thats 10% of this month's cap
[10:37] <soulrider> do you have a usb drive or something to put them in ?
[10:37] <blue|palm> yes
[10:37] <soulrider> great!
[10:37] <stdin> kkosmo: no, you don't need to enable root to get a root shell
[10:37] <blue|palm> ive got plenty of space. i just dont know how to do it
[10:37] <soulrider> make sure it has enough space
[10:37] <soulrider> and ill guide you through it
[10:37] <kkosmo> oo ok
[10:37] <blue|palm> k, that would be great!!!
[10:37] <dwidmann> when burning, be sure to check "verify written data"
[10:38] <kkosmo> damn how i can resize my partiton
[10:38] <soulrider> blue|palm:  :)
[10:38] <frojnd> I cant find for adi micro HorizSync and VertRefresh. I just know that monitor is crt and its 17"
[10:38] <blue|palm> can you make your own apt repositories though?
[10:38] <yeti_> yes!! it's the good command
[10:38] <blue|palm> because that would be awesome!
[10:38] <dwidmann> kkosmo: "sudo su -"
[10:38] <soulrider> blue|palm: you can, i dont know how, but we can copy the debs in a way that when apt will try to download it, it will see they have already been downlaoded
[10:38] <soulrider> so you dont have to worry
[10:39] <blue|palm> ok, even better
[10:39] <soulrider> ok
[10:39] <stdin> kkosmo: "sudo -i" is the correct way
[10:39] <soulrider> heres how it works
[10:39] <blue|palm> where do all the apt-get programs go anyway?
[10:39] <soulrider> wheny ou download an update or program or whatever
[10:39] <mace__> what can i do here: kdesu: cannot connect to X serve
[10:39] <soulrider> apt downlaods the deb package
[10:39] <yeti_> but I haven't got the permition for install beryl :(
[10:39] <blue|palm> yes
[10:39] <soulrider> but it keeps it in a directory
[10:39] <soulrider> what were gonna do is copy the debs
[10:39] <dwidmann> sudo -i doesn't give you the whole root environment if I remember right
[10:39] <kkosmo> i have problem i have free space and i want to add it to my partiton witout losing data how can i do this i download now the qtparted but how i can do that
[10:39] <kkosmo> ?
[10:39] <soulrider> and once youve reinstalled
[10:39] <blue|palm> ok
[10:39] <soulrider> copy them back
[10:39] <blue|palm> that simple :)
[10:40] <soulrider> so when it wants the updates it doesnt have to download it
[10:40] <soulrider> yes, simple indeed
[10:40] <blue|palm> just tell me where then?
[10:40] <yeti_> it's a probleme
[10:40] <stdin> mace__: how are you starting it ?
[10:40] <soulrider> well, the files are stored in /var/apt/cache i believe, but io need to double check
[10:40] <dwidmann> hmm, maybe it does
[10:40] <mace__> stdin: "desu kate"
[10:40] <mace__> kdesu
[10:40] <stdin> mace__: are you are logged in as the normal user ?
[10:40] <soulrider> blue|palm: sorry, theya re in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:41] <mace__> stdin: yes
[10:41] <soulrider> just copy them to somewhere and after reinstalling just copy them back
[10:41] <stdin> mace__: dose it work from the run dialogue ?
[10:41] <blue|palm> lol, im new to linux (3 days) so whats the linux equivalent of windows' xcopy?
[10:41] <soulrider> ahh
[10:41] <soulrider> ok
[10:41] <blue|palm> yes, im a new convert
[10:41] <soulrider> where do you want to copy them to ?
[10:42] <mace__> stdin:  yes its working
[10:42] <kkosmo> stdin
[10:42] <blue|palm> soulrider /media/sdb1/linux
[10:42] <kkosmo> you see my other problem
[10:42] <kkosmo> ?
[10:42] <soulrider> ok
[10:42] <soulrider> youre gonna have to do
[10:42] <soulrider> sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives /media/sdb1/linux
[10:42] <blue|palm> lol cp = copy
[10:42] <blue|palm> im dumb :)
[10:42] <soulrider> yes
[10:42] <soulrider> uhm
[10:43] <soulrider> wait
[10:43] <soulrider> hold on, im not too sure if thats gonna work
[10:43] <blue|palm> ill try
[10:43] <kkosmo> that work
[10:43] <soulrider> im not too used to the CLI either
[10:43] <kkosmo> cp work
[10:43] <kkosmo> if you do
[10:43] <soulrider> ok
[10:43] <stdin> kkosmo: you have free space and you want to make a partition bigger ?
[10:43] <kkosmo> cp /home/user/ss /home/user/sssla
[10:43] <kkosmo> yes
[10:43] <Kr4t05> Some recent upgrades have affected my stability, causing my system to crash to KDM randomly.
[10:43] <kkosmo> stdin thats exectly what i want to do
[10:44] <Kr4t05> Anyone else have this problem?
[10:44] <mace__> stdin: hm perhaps i ve to configure the x-server?
[10:44] <stdin> kkosmo: you can do that in qt/gparted , just choose to resize the partition
[10:44] <kkosmo> but this option
[10:44] <kkosmo> not enable
[10:44] <kkosmo> i think its becouse
[10:44] <stdin> mace__: what user are you logged in as, and what user name do you see in konsole
[10:44] <kkosmo> i used now
[10:44] <kkosmo> in this partiton
[10:45] <stdin> kkosmo: you can't do ir while the system is booted, use the live cd
[10:45] <blue|palm> hmm it is saying cp: omitting directory `/var/cache/apt/archives
[10:45] <kkosmo> ok
[10:45] <kkosmo> i try live cd
[10:45] <soulrider> blue|palm: go tot he destination and see if theya re in there
[10:45] <stdin> blue|palm: cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/sdb1/linux
[10:45] <kkosmo> !livecd
[10:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[10:45] <kkosmo> i want
[10:45] <kkosmo> somthing
[10:45] <mace__> stdin: im logged in as "mace", not as root. mace@mace-laptop.de
[10:45] <kkosmo> sec
[10:46] <blue|palm> thanks stdin
[10:46] <stdin> mace__: try closing konsole, and do the command again
[10:46] <blue|palm> its busy
[10:46] <blue|palm> thanks soulrider too
[10:46] <natham> hi, i want to mount a usb drive at kubuntu but i cant, i cant find the device at /dev
[10:46] <soulrider> blue|palm: its copying ?
[10:46] <blue|palm> yes
[10:46] <soulrider> natham: it should be /dev/sd something
[10:47] <kkosmo> !custom-livecd
[10:47] <soulrider> try sda1
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about custom-livecd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <stdin> natham: what do you mean you can't find the device, what were you looking foe ?
[10:47] <mace__> stdin: working :)
[10:47] <blue|palm> wow thanks, you guys have saved me from redownloading 1.1 GB...
[10:47] <natham> stdin i plug the device, and im want to know how to mount it
[10:47] <soulrider> blue|palm: make sure it copied everything
[10:48] <soulrider> just in case
[10:48] <stdin> mace__: if you switch user, or even login twice as the same user, you won't be able to open a GUI
[10:48] <soulrider> natham: didnt a window in KDE pop up ?
[10:48] <mace__> stdin: ok, thanks
[10:48] <natham> soulrider no it didnt
[10:48] <soulrider> ok
[10:48] <BluesKaj> natham, system menu/storage media..it should be listed
[10:48] <soulrider> natham: do you have a location to mount it to ?
[10:48] <stdin> natham: look in /var/log/messages, it should tell you in there
[10:49] <soulrider> blue|palm: good luck reinstalling, and remember, ubuntu is better than suse :P
[10:49] <natham> system menu /media i only got floppy
[10:49] <natham> checking out messages
[10:50] <natham> Jan 17 16:23:28 localhost kernel: [4294963.100000]  usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2Jan 17 16:23:28 localhost kernel: [4294963.195000]  scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devicesJan 17 16:23:28 localhost usb.agent[21402] :      usb-storage: already loadedJan 17 16:23:33 localhost kernel: [4294968.184000]  usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[10:50] <blue|palm> hehe. in 3 days i agree...
[10:50] <soulrider> blue|palm: i used suse and ubuntu is a lot better
[10:51] <blue|palm> well i loved kubuntu... when it worked!
[10:51] <soulrider> that Yast thing sucks, its slow and buggy
[10:51] <soulrider> at leats it wa sin the version i tried
[10:51] <blue|palm> apt is like  adream
[10:51] <soulrider> lol
[10:51] <soulrider> just remember everyone at the IRc cna help you
[10:51] <blue|palm> im serious
[10:51] <soulrider> and the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org are grat
[10:51] <soulrider> great*
[10:52] <blue|palm> thanks again, i think im gna go burn that cd... Ive got both the amd64 versions and the 32 bit version (im running 32 bit) which should i go for?
[10:52] <soulrider> 32 bit
[10:52] <blue|palm> ok
[10:52] <stdin> blue|palm: if you want flash and media support, you want 32bit :P
[10:52] <blue|palm> oh, well definitely :)
[10:53] <stdin> natham: what type of device is it ?
[10:53] <anouk> hello
[10:53] <blue|palm> thanks, im gna go back to windows :( and burn my cd's (i havent mounted my ntfs drive coz im too scared atm)
[10:54] <stdin> blue|palm: linux (by default) has read only support for ntfs, so you can't do any damage :)
[10:54] <blue|palm> Last thing, does anybody else have choppy video playback in mplayer in kubuntu in fullscreen?
[10:54] <soulrider> blue|palm: i use VLC
[10:55] <blue|palm> i have it too, but i prefer mplayer
[10:55] <blue|palm> mplayer's post-processing looks better
[10:55] <blue|palm> waaay better
[10:55] <stdin> mplayer is  my favourite :)
[10:55] <blue|palm> stdin did you get it working on kubuntu?
[10:55] <Kr4t05> As I was saying before, I'm having X stability problems. If I so much as look at my computer cross-eyed, it keels over and spits me back out at the KDM login screen. The only problem that I could see would either be an xorg.conf error, or an upgrade that I performed last night.
[10:55] <stdin> blue|palm: mplayer? yeah, I always use it
[10:56] <dwidmann> mplayers post-processing is ffmpeg based ... so I assume xine and gstreamer and the like can take advantage of it too
[10:56] <soulrider> Kr4t05: i suggest reconfiguring xorg and see if it fixes it
[10:56] <soulrider> i upadted last night too and didnt have any issues
[10:56] <stdin> Kr4t05: look at the log files too
[10:56] <blue|palm> stdin i have a radeon x1900 and the latest driver installed yet i get slow and jerky playback in fullscreen? how?
[10:56] <Kr4t05> stdin: Where are those, again?
[10:57] <dwidmann> blue|palm: I know how ... ATI quality video drivers
[10:57] <stdin> Kr4t05: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.1.log
[10:57] <blue|palm> lol
[10:57] <blue|palm> dwidmann do you have a solution for me?
[10:57] <stdin> blue|palm: you can try changing the video out to x11 or xv
[10:57] <blue|palm> in mplayer? it didnt make a difference
[10:58] <stdin> blue|palm: eg mplayer -vo x11 myfile.ogg
[10:58] <Kr4t05> stdin: The last thing I see in there would be in regard to FreeFontPath or somesuch...
[10:58] <dwidmann> blue|palm, no, not really
[10:58] <stdin> Kr4t05: you want to look for lines with "(EE)"
[10:58] <blue|palm> dwidmann nvidia actually work?
[10:59] <dwidmann> very well, and delivers the same performance that it does on windows too
[10:59] <vinboy> I have a custom kernel, how do I install nvidia-glx?
[10:59] <andreasw> hi
[10:59] <BTR> Hi, how can i connect to a wireless device that uses WPA-PSK? i only have open or shared as options
[10:59] <blue|palm> dwidmann how does everybody else with an ati card survive then?
[10:59] <blue|palm> !wigi
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wigi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <stdin> vinboy: short answer, you don't
[10:59] <HailandKill> okay, a series of things has just happened. The battery ran out on my laptop. That, or it went into standby, either way I had to turn the machine on again. Then, as it was booting.. the cat walks across it. Now, the track bad doesn't work. I've set the xorg.conf back to the an original backup, but nought...
[10:59] <vinboy> stdin: really?
[10:59] <blue|palm> BTR type !wifi and follow the URL
[10:59] <BTR> !wifi
[10:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:59] <HailandKill> Could the cat seriously of broken my track pad?!
[10:59] <stdin> vinboy: not with a custom kernel, no
[11:00] <andreasw> vinboy: nvidia-glx is for the standard i386 kernel it won't work with a custom build kernel
[11:00] <vinboy> stdin: ok thx. that is abit strange
[11:00] <stdin> vinboy: you have to get the download from nvidia and compile it yourself
[11:00] <vinboy> alright
[11:00] <vinboy> thanks guys
[11:00] <andreasw> you can also install nvidia-kernel-source
[11:00] <vinboy> what is that?
[11:00] <andreasw> and than build your own deb package from that source
[11:00] <blue|palm> does anybody else here use an ati card?
[11:01] <dwidmann> blue|palm, beats me. I decided it worth my investment to replace my ati card with an nvidia card
[11:02] <blue|palm> woah
[11:02] <blue|palm> thats extreme
[11:02] <blue|palm> i cant, my ati driver is too expensive :(
[11:02] <dwidmann> blue|palm, ati cards tend not to perform as well on linux, so much so that my old 6600gt would probably match the X1900 step for step in a linux environment
[11:02] <BTR> blue|palm: There is nothing when i search for WPA-PSK in the wiki
[11:02] <blue|palm> BTR It is there
[11:02] <blue|palm> BTR :)
[11:03] <blue|palm> BTR its directly on that page the !wifi URL gives you
[11:03] <blue|palm> BTR just look for WPA, no WPA-PSK
[11:03] <BTR> Ohh, ok:)
[11:03] <stdin> WPA howto https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo <<<
[11:03] <blue|palm> BTR :)
[11:03] <blue|palm> BTR Or you can just follow that: )
[11:04] <HailandKill> If I haven't touched the xorg.conf... why would my track pad suddenly stop working?
[11:04] <BTR> thanks:)
[11:05] <vinboy> cool, i got nvidia to work on my custom kernel
[11:05] <HailandKill> The only thing I was doing was tyring to get a broadcom wireless device to work.. surely that would break the track pad...?
[11:07] <andreasw> HailandKill: well Kubuntu has something a strange working hardware detection it also changed my xorg.conf
[11:07] <dwidmann> vinboy, the easiest way would have been to use envy :)
[11:07] <HailandKill> I've restored an old xorg.conf, but it hasn't seemed to have fixed it...
[11:07] <vinboy> it wasn't any harder
[11:08] <snikker> i've got an "DCOP error" when i click on i bluetooth in the kontrol center. how fix this?
[11:08] <adjhskajhdskljsh> stdin
[11:08] <adjhskajhdskljsh> ?
[11:08] <adjhskajhdskljsh> its me kosmo
[11:09] <stdin> adjhskajhdskljsh: yes?
[11:09] <adjhskajhdskljsh> i am in the live cd
[11:09] <adjhskajhdskljsh> and i cant
[11:09] <adjhskajhdskljsh>  resize
[11:09] <adjhskajhdskljsh> the partiton
[11:09] <stdin> why now?
[11:09] <adjhskajhdskljsh> the resize button is already hidding
[11:10] <adaptr> !enter | adjhskajhdskljsh
[11:10] <ubotu> adjhskajhdskljsh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:10] <HailandKill> Is there a way of automatically generating a new xorg.conf? I remeber getting X to make one automatically with Gentoo...
[11:10] <adjhskajhdskljsh> stdin
[11:10] <adjhskajhdskljsh> you have any idea
[11:10] <adjhskajhdskljsh>  ?
[11:10] <dwidmann> HailandKill: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:10] <HailandKill> thanks
[11:10] <stdin> adjhskajhdskljsh: make sure all the partitions aren't mounted
[11:11] <stdin> adjhskajhdskljsh: including the swap one
[11:11] <doudoo> oslo
[11:11] <dwidmann> Also, if qtparted is being a pain (like it frequently is) ... try parted in a konsole .. it's relatively easy to use
[11:11] <adjhskajhdskljsh> stdin
[11:11] <adjhskajhdskljsh> are not mounted
[11:12] <doudoo> oslo
[11:12] <doudoo> oslo
[11:12] <doudoo> t la?
[11:12] <oslo> doudooui
[11:12] <doudoo> il remarche ton kopete?
[11:12] <oslo> jarrive plus a chat sur kopete/msn je susi connect mais mes mess passe pas
[11:12] <oslo> non
[11:12] <claudio> I must create a daemon using kdevelop. This daemon must listen in a specified port. Where I can find a sample code and/or instruction to do that?
[11:12] <doudoo> erreur 911
[11:12] <oslo> remarche pas & toi ca marche ??
[11:12] <doudoo> rien que le numero me fai paniquer !
[11:12] <adjhskajhdskljsh> stdin
[11:12] <adjhskajhdskljsh> more idea
[11:12] <stdin> !fr | doudoo
[11:12] <adjhskajhdskljsh> ?
[11:12] <ubotu> doudoo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:12] <oslo> sorry all
[11:13] <oslo> doudoo : join #kubuntu-fr or #oslo
[11:13] <stdin> adjhskajhdskljsh: you can try with gparted
[11:13] <stdin> adjhskajhdskljsh: qtparted can be buggy
[11:14] <adjhskajhdskljsh> i install it on live cd
[11:14] <dwidmann> parted isn't very difficult to use ... if you don't feel like downloading gparted
[11:14] <adjhskajhdskljsh> gparted
[11:14] <adjhskajhdskljsh> delete after i go out
[11:14] <adjhskajhdskljsh> the live cd
[11:14] <adjhskajhdskljsh> ritght
[11:14] <adjhskajhdskljsh> ?
[11:14] <adjhskajhdskljsh> right
[11:16] <adjhskajhdskljsh> stdin
[11:17] <adjhskajhdskljsh> in gparted
[11:17] <adjhskajhdskljsh> i can go to resize
[11:17] <adjhskajhdskljsh> button
[11:17] <adjhskajhdskljsh> but i cant add a size
[11:17] <adjhskajhdskljsh> to the partiton
[11:18] <stdin> I haven't used g/qtparted in a while, I'm not an expert in it
[11:19] <dwidmann> should be easy in parted ... start parted, type "resize #" (# being the partition #), give it the start point and end point and you'd be good to go
[11:19] <BTR> Damn, i cant figure out how to install WPA, i tried to follow guide, but i just keep running my head against the wall
[11:22] <HailandKill> Hmm... I boot off the live CD, and the mouse still doesn't work... Shit. As if the fecking cat broke it.
[11:23] <dwidmann> HailAndKill: last mouse I had mysteriously stopped working one day ... had to get another one
[11:23] <HailandKill> Well, this is laptop track pad...
[11:24] <HailandKill> A little more difficult to get replaced.
[11:24] <HailandKill> :(
[11:24] <dwidmann> eeeeeeeeeeee
[11:24] <dwidmann> when you said mouse I thought you meant, you know, a mouse :\
[11:24] <HailandKill> yeah... understandable really.
[11:25] <HailandKill> Guess I should start reading the warranty...
[11:28] <Kr4t05> My X instability has yet to be solved.
[11:28] <Kr4t05> Even on a clean xorg.conf, it still spits me out.
[11:28] <HailandKill> Does it spit you out with anything helpful?
[11:29] <HailandKill> Or does it just complain?
[11:29] <Kr4t05> HailandKill: Nope, it just sends me back to the KDM without warning or consolance.
[11:29] <Kr4t05> Methinks it may be a kernel issue.
[11:30] <Kr4t05> If so, I'll install the latest generic and try that.
[11:30] <stdin> what driver ate you using ?
[11:30] <juano> Kr4t05: what seems to be the problem??
[11:30] <stdin> (graphics)
[11:30] <juano> hi dwidmann :)
[11:32] <Kr4t05> stdin: nvidia beta. Now I'm kicking mysefl.
[11:32] <Kr4t05> myself*
[11:33] <stdin> Kr4t05: does the nv driver give you issues ?
[11:33] <Kr4t05> stdin: Let me find out.
[11:33] <bLaZeD> if it does change it to vesa for a temp solution
[11:34] <Kr4t05> It's spits out many errors due to /dev/wacom
[11:34] <bLaZeD> the nv driver causes some probs with my card.
[11:34] <stdin> ignore the wacom errors
[11:34] <Kr4t05> stdin: Then, something about font paths
[11:34] <vinboy> how do I make konsole colorfull?
[11:35] <stdin> Kr4t05: and ignore the font errors :P
[11:35] <juano> vinboy: in konsole, go to settings -> configure konsole
[11:36] <vinboy> thanks
[11:36] <Kr4t05> stdin: After that, a large chunk headed with "Backtrace"
[11:36] <juano> vinboy: then to schema
[11:36] <stdin> vinboy: ^^ -> Schema :)
[11:36] <MHobbit> When trying to boot from an Efty Edge CD, the menu screen shows up fine, but when I try to actually boot Kubuntu, I get a kernel panic error. I've checked the ISO's md5sum, and that matched, and the CD seemed to have burned fine.
[11:36] <Kr4t05> stdin: Is there a console command to paste to pastebin?
[11:37] <stdin> karmikaze: not without gpm, but the log will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:37] <Kr4t05> stdin: Drat... I was afraid of that...
[11:37] <karmikaze> >_>
[11:38] <stdin> heh, tab mismatch :)
[11:38] <stdin> Kr4t05: you can got to "http://pastebin.ca/upload.php" in links to upload the file
[11:40] <Kr4t05> stdin: mkay.
[11:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> can anyone tell me if my fstab is correct?  this is a fresh install of ubuntu and it wont let me view contents of my DVD http://www.pastebin.ca/319956
[11:40] <Kr4t05> stdin: vesa don't work, neither.
[11:41] <Kr4t05> Methinks this problem goes beyond Xserver problems.
[11:41] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: except for the / on "dev/hda" is missing, it looks ok
[11:41] <[BTF] Chm0d> i cut taht out during the copy hehe
[11:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> well i can access my cdrom from the desktop but not the dvd
[11:42] <stdin> Kr4t05: maybe, I haven't had any issues with X, but I have an Intel GPU
[11:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> this is what i get Unable to enter file:///media/cdrom1. You do not have access rights to this location.
[11:43] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: what does "ls -ld /media/cdrom1" show ?(in konsole, and the 'l' is a 'L')
[11:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> permission denied
[11:44] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: did you do the exact command I showed, with the '-ld' ?
[11:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> sorry missed a letter it says this drwx------ 6 400 401 2048 2005-09-16 20:34 /media/cdrom1
[11:45] <wolfwalker> I require net assistance
[11:45] <wolfwalker> When I try to run pppoeconf, it says it can't get the access concentrator to respond
[11:46] <mhb> Hi everyone. It seems somehow the system fails to see my kwallet account now. Any way I can restore it?
[11:47] <Kr4t05> stdin: I can't figure this out...
[11:47] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: unmount it "sudo umount /media/cdrom1" then mount like "mount /media/cdrom1", then run the "ls" command again
[11:47] <stdin> Kr4t05: I have no clue either
[11:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> stdin: this is what i get drwx------ 6 400 401 2048 2005-09-16 20:34 /media/cdrom1
[11:49] <stdin> that's a bit strange
[11:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> got me
[11:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> :)
[11:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> its a fresh install
[11:50] <stdin> why is it mounting as a user/group that don't even exist
[11:50] <[BTF] Chm0d> dunno
[11:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> whats the user/group you are talking about?
[11:51] <stdin> the UID=400 and the GID=401
[11:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> i dont understand that
[11:52] <MaxDamage``> hey dudes
[11:52] <MaxDamage``> again
[11:52] <wolfwalker> Can anyone help me get online with my Linux computer?
[11:52] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: UID = User ID and GID = Group ID
[11:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> yea im looking at users and groups now
[11:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> they are in the 100's
[11:53] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: but they don't have names there, so the user and group haven't been created on your system
[11:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> got me
[11:54] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: try replacing  the line
[11:54] <[BTF] Chm0d> to?
[11:54] <stdin> "/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0" with "/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,uid=1000     0       0"
[11:55] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[11:55] <MaxDamage``> im having problems with my tv-out
[11:55] <MaxDamage``> i start it through system settings
[11:56] <MaxDamage``> i have the binary ATi Radeon drivers
[11:56] <MaxDamage``> using ATi Radeon 9200 SE
[11:58] <[BTF] Chm0d> stdin: do i need to do anything like reboot or restart anything?
[11:59] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: no just unmount it "sudo umount /media/cdrom1" and remount it "mount /media/cdrom1"
[11:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[12:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> that worked thank you very much for the help
[12:00] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: that's really more a workaround than a solution
[12:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> ;O
[12:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey it works
[12:01] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: if there are any other users on the system, they won't be able to access it
[12:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> nope its just me
[12:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> so
[12:01] <stdin> [BTF] Chm0d: then it's fine :P
[12:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> :P
[12:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty my friend
[12:01] <stdin> no problem :)
[12:01] <visik7> msn isn't working. I hope forever
[12:03] <Kano32> hi, just tested the 2nd feisty beta, one big mistake is in the kde-systemsettings package
[12:04] <Kano32> /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/system-settings-merge.menu
[12:04] <Kano32> thats wrong position
[12:04] <visik7> it's an alpha not a beta
[12:04] <stdin> Kano32: 1st report as a bug, then for feisty support use #ubuntu+1
[12:05] <MoRpHeUz> hi ! I'm trying to install madwifi-ng in edgy but I'm having problems...it says that this is inside restricted-modules but it's not..someone has any idea about this ?
[12:06] <Kr4t05> stdin: vesa works.
[12:06] <Kr4t05> I may try to reinstall my nvidia drivers to see if that fixes it.
[12:06] <stdin> MoRpHeUz: the madwifi modules are in the restricted modules package
[12:06] <stdin> Kr4t05: that may help, hope so anyway :)
[12:07] <MoRpHeUz> stdin: I already installed the restricted modules package but madwifi-ng is not installed, just madwifi....and then my wifi card does not work
[12:07] <MoRpHeUz> stdin: it's an atheros (macbook pro)
[12:08] <stdin> madwifi-ng = madwifi
[12:08] <stdin> afaik
[12:09] <stdin> !info madwifi-tools
[12:09] <ubotu> Package madwifi-tools does not exist in any distro I know
[12:09] <MoRpHeUz> stdin: hhmm...but my wireless interface is not there...the atheros drivers are all up...looking for this stuff at google I found that I must load new_wlan_sta (that are all inside madwifi-ng but here I have just wlan_sta)
[12:09] <MoRpHeUz> hhmm
[12:10] <sleepy833> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree to install flash9 doesn't work, any idea why?
[12:10] <sleepy833> says can't find package..is the name wrong onthe line?
[12:10] <stdin> sleepy833: enable the multiverse and backports repositories
[12:11] <malik_> a quick one..............whats wifi?
[12:11] <malik_> !WiFi
[12:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:11] <stdin> malik_: wifi = wireless :P
[12:12] <malik_> aah oki thanx
[12:12] <HailandKill> Ok, with ubuntu to automatically start something I go to System|Preferences|Sessions|Startup Programs, where is this option in Kubuntu?
[12:13] <malik_> can any one tell how to make firefox play wma files which are not embedded in external application like kaffeine?
[12:13] <stdin> HailandKill: just make a link in ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:13] <dwidmann> hailandkill, you can just create a *.desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:13] <stdin> can just be a symlink too
[12:14] <HailandKill> ok, ta.
[12:14] <juano> HailandKill: yes, try stdin and dwidmann suggestions