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UbugtuNew bug: #79654 in update-manager (main) "checking repositories in synaptic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7965412:20
UbugtuNew bug: #79655 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "depmod not run correctly for vmware modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7965512:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #79656 in gnome-app-install (main) "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute '_compile'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7965612:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #79657 in apport (main) "Copy and paste from expanded crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7965712:35
UbugtuNew bug: #79658 in quarry (universe) "crashed when i clicked 'play'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7965812:35
UbugtuNew bug: #79659 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror undos copy even if the file has changed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7965912:35
UbugtuNew bug: #79660 in gdm (main) "gdmsetup halts on futex" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966012:40
UbugtuNew bug: #79661 in Ubuntu "Very slow logging in when no LAN is connected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966112:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #79662 in Ubuntu "[feisty,alternate-cd x86]  kernel, not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966212:51
UbugtuNew bug: #79663 in hpoj (universe) "Please sync hpoj (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966301:01
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deezidhi01:04
deezidI have the following problem: I cannot install ubunty feisty (alternate and live since herd2).01:04
deezidI've filed a bugreport for the alternate cd here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/7966201:05
UbugtuMalone bug 79662 in Ubuntu "[feisty,alternate-cd x86]  kernel, not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 01:05
deezidI will do further testing with the amd64 version, too.01:06
deezidI had another error with the livecd. Kernel-Oops. More details tomorrow01:07
deezidThe errors had their debut a few days after the hurd1 release. In hurd2 and newer releases they're still present.01:09
deezidoh, I mean herd 1 & 2, not hurd :D01:10
UbugtuNew bug: #79664 in ubiquity (main) "live install failed ubuntu 7.04 beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966401:11
UbugtuNew bug: #79665 in uqm (multiverse) "no menu entry in applications->games" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966501:15
UbugtuNew bug: #71505 in python-fuse (universe) "python-fuse still supports only python2.4" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7150501:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #79666 in bluez-utils (main) "hcid crashdump" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966601:25
UbugtuNew bug: #79667 in apport (main) "cannot upload crashdumps from system users" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966701:25
UbugtuNew bug: #79668 in sound-juicer (main) "Average Bit Rate MP3s report incorrect length" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966801:45
UbugtuNew bug: #79669 in Ubuntu "feisty installer does not detect firewire CD-ROM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966901:45
UbugtuNew bug: #79670 in briquolo (universe) "Dies hitting wall and bat together" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7967001:50
UbugtuNew bug: #79672 in Ubuntu "install-remove bluefish warnings " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7967202:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #79673 in zynaddsubfx (universe) "zynaddsubfx produces core dump on-exit if run with no /dev/snd/seq device existing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7967302:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #79675 in kdebase (main) "konqueror crashes (segv) at orbitz.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7967503:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #79677 in network-manager (main) "wireless interface inactive after Suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7967704:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #79679 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7967904:25
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pkhhi all.  I've got some time (and a little ability...) -- where do I start!05:09
UbugtuNew bug: #79680 in i8kutils (universe) "Auto starting and respawning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968005:10
lifelesspkh: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad05:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #79681 in banshee (universe) "Banshee crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968105:41
UbugtuNew bug: #79682 in Ubuntu "Bug in the new language update on 16/01/2007" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968206:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #79683 in libspf2 (universe) "spfquery: conflict with libmail-spf-query-perl Debian bug#306875" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968306:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #79684 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968406:46
UbugtuNew bug: #79685 in anjuta (universe) "Anjuta crashes when F8 is pressed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968507:01
UbugtuNew bug: #79686 in Ubuntu "nautilus cd burner doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968607:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #79687 in rhythmbox (main) "rythmbox crashes with gstreamer codecs and does not notice duplicates songs in the library" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7968707:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #80199 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "patch to enable LFE, spdif and mic on Dell Inspiron 9400" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8019907:50
UbugtuNew bug: #80200 in python2.5 (main) "Latest python2.5-minimal update in Feisty fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020007:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #80201 in ubuntu-restricted-extras (multiverse) "Wishlist - should add .rar support (unrar)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020108:15
UbugtuNew bug: #80202 in rar (multiverse) "Please sync rar 3.6.0-1 from debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020208:26
UbugtuNew bug: #80203 in totem (main) "double-clicking to go fullscreen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020308:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #80204 in wxwidgets2.6 (universe) "python-wxgtk2.6: /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020408:50
UbugtuNew bug: #80205 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu Herd 2 - i386 Desktop CD - Installation Error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020509:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #80206 in unrar-nonfree (multiverse) "Please sync unrar-nonfree 3.7.2-1 from debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020609:25
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dholbachgood morning10:09
BugMaNgood morning dholbach! :-)10:09
dholbachhey BugMaN10:10
UbugtuNew bug: #80208 in m2c (universe) "m2c segfaults on compiling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8020810:20
cjwatsonbug 79664> more German than I expected to need to write at this time in the morning10:25
UbugtuMalone bug 79664 in ubiquity "live install failed ubuntu 7.04 beta" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7966410:25
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dholbachcjwatson: i'll take a look at it10:31
dholbachoh... well done! :)10:31
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UbugtuNew bug: #80210 in totem (main) "Totem 2.17.5 crashes when no CD inserted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021010:35
dholbachseb128: i mostly stopped assigning bugs to desktop-bugs10:37
seb128dholbach: why?10:37
dholbachseb128: because I mostly check +subscribed-bugs anyway, since that's automatic10:37
dholbachseb128: or do you see any sense, why we should stick to that?10:39
seb128I like to have desktop bugs assigned to desktop team10:39
seb128so we know what we are responsive for10:39
UbugtuNew bug: #80211 in Ubuntu "Backlight doesnt turn back on after suspend to ram" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021110:40
dholbachisn't that mostly clear for the packages we are bug contact for?10:40
seb128well, having them assigned is a way to know that we did triage the bug10:42
UbugtuNew bug: #80212 in Ubuntu "CPU 1 runs at 100% after spend to disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021210:45
UbugtuNew bug: #80213 in cegui-mk2 (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021310:45
dholbachseb128: that's what I change the bug importance for - that way we know that somebody in ubuntu-qa touched the bug10:47
dholbachseb128: but if it's your request, i'll assign dekstop-bugs again10:47
seb128well, I like to set ubuntu-desktop and I don't see a reason not doing it so I'll keep doing that ;)10:47
seb128no, feel free to do whatever match your workflow the best10:48
seb128I'll think about it10:48
dholbachalright10:48
seb128there is no point to have an assigne field if we don't use it though :p10:48
dholbachonly if we'd use it for saying "*I* work on this, not Sb"10:48
seb128that's also a way to say to people who browse the bug list that the bug is something for desktop-team10:48
dholbach*nod*10:49
seb128otherwise the page has no mention of that10:49
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seb128out of people knowing than gimp is a desktop team package or not10:49
UbugtuNew bug: #80214 in firefox (main) "firefox add-on to prepend search engine queries" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021410:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #80215 in alsa-driver (main) "Alsa does not work on Fujitsu-Simens Lifebook C1410" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021510:55
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masuranHello11:01
masuran /msg nickserv set unfiltered on11:02
UbugtuNew bug: #80216 in Ubuntu "Screen freezes during installation on dell precision m70 laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021611:15
UbugtuNew bug: #80217 in kopete (main) "Remove a jabber service doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021711:25
UbugtuNew bug: #80218 in eog (main) "landscape printing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021811:26
masuranAnybody here? Got a little question :)11:32
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palskiI'm here, but don't know do I have an answer =)11:35
UbugtuNew bug: #80219 in Ubuntu "wireless card will not associate if static ip is used in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021911:36
UbugtuNew bug: #80220 in eog (main) "ability to print several images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8022011:36
masuranIf you can check bug  #80218 you can see it's just a feature request :) How do we reply to that?11:36
UbugtuMalone bug 80218 in gtk "landscape printing" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8021811:36
persiamasuran: Feature requests are also bugs.  Perhaps someone will fix it :)11:37
palskimasuran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses11:37
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masuranpalski, thank you :)11:38
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palskimasuran: but that bug is already commented and forwarded to gnome-bugs11:40
masuranyes, right after I asked my question it was forwarded :) This is a fast team :D11:41
palski=)11:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #69453 in at-spi (main) "Crash when setting mensaje as read" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6945311:52
UbugtuNew bug: #80222 in xine-lib (main) "xine-lib does not support ogg theora video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8022211:55
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jwendelldholbach, good morning!12:08
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dholbachheya jwendell12:10
dholbachjwendell: HAPPY HUG DAY12:10
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jwendelldholbach, ah, it's today, good!12:13
dholbach:-)12:14
jwendelldholbach, how we handle with bugs like bug 79608?12:14
Hobbseedholbach: topic is cut off12:14
UbugtuMalone bug 79608 in xchat-systray "xchat-systray is not necessary in feisty anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7960812:14
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UbugtuNew bug: #80224 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice font rendering bad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8022412:15
dholbachjwendell: confirm it's really ready to be removed from the archive, then subscribe 'ubuntu-archive' to get it removed12:15
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jwendelldholbach, archive@ubuntu.com or ubuntu-archive@lists.ubuntu.com ?12:20
dholbach'ubuntu-archive' is the team name12:20
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jwendelldholbach, done, thanks12:21
dholbachthank you12:22
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UbugtuNew bug: #80227 in cacti (universe) "please sync cacti (0.8.6i-3) from unstable/main to universe" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8022712:25
UbugtuNew bug: #80228 in osgal-cvs (universe) "Please sync osgal-cvs (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8022812:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #80229 in Ubuntu "more mime-type icons in default theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8022912:30
tsurcIve just downloaded Herd 2 but can't get it to install. I think Iv'e found a bug about no installable kernel. and during hardware detection vtty4 is reporting no kernel found repeatedly. How do I find out if the bug has already been reported.12:31
TLEsearch in LaunchPad.12:32
TLEI'm not a Herd Tester but I'm pretty sure that' I've seen something like that, about a missing kernel, so try and search for that12:33
TLEhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs12:34
UbugtuNew bug: #80230 in update-manager (main) "update manager won't work in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023012:35
tsurcTLE sounds like #79109 what can I do to help.12:40
UbugtuNew bug: #69353 in hw-detect (main) "hw-detect freezes on Dell Latitude 600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6935312:40
TLEtsurc: As you can see on the top the bug has allready been confirmed, and has the status of critical. Which all means that someone will be working on fixing as soon as they can12:43
tsurccool, so nothing I can do. ;)12:44
TLEtsurc: Other than that, read through the thread and see if you have some new information to. Most importantly if you hardware setup is somewhat different so that it may indicate that this bug affects a lerger group than is mentioned in the thread12:45
TLEtsurc: The subscribe to the bug, so that if someone comes up with a way of fixing it you will know about it and be able to help test it12:46
tsurcgreat thanks ;)12:46
TLEtsurc: or if you're real coding and Linux smart you might start looking for the problem yourself12:46
TLEyou're welcome12:46
UbugtuNew bug: #80231 in sysinfo (universe) "sysinfo crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023112:46
tsurcooo... not sure about that, but its somewhere I's like to work to, one day.12:48
UbugtuNew bug: #80232 in Ubuntu "gnomebaker" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023212:51
UbugtuNew bug: #80233 in xen-tools (universe) "Recommends line contains two arch-specific and three Suggests entries." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023312:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #68969 in ubiquity (main) "6.06 live CD: installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6896912:56
UbugtuNew bug: #80234 in language-selector (main) "fontconfig-voodoo crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023401:02
UbugtuNew bug: #80235 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes on opening" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023501:02
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UbugtuNew bug: #80236 in control-center (main) "gnome-control-center gnome theme manger crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023601:06
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neutrinomassdholbach: cond.or_cond is 'none' ...01:08
dholbachneutrinomass: thanks, i'll try something - hang on01:11
dholbachneutrinomass: can you try:  http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/patch ?01:12
neutrinomassok (if you have time, I popped in here to make debugging easier )01:12
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neutrinomasshm... it isn't crashing but I'm not getting any output either (just loads of 'None' )01:15
dholbachneutrinomass: that's ok01:15
neutrinomassLet me try to change ubiquity.info to something more general01:15
dholbachneutrinomass: there shouldn't be any 'or' statements in the stock ubiquity.info01:15
neutrinomasstrue...01:16
neutrinomassgood, another bug fixed :) thanks01:16
dholbachi'll commit it to bughelper.main01:16
dholbachthanks a lot for helping out with that01:16
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cjwatsonTLE: missing kernel> I think that's happening to core 2 duo users at least, and I think I know why, but I need to get past other problems in order to diagnose it01:29
cjwatsonTLE: the i82365 probing loop ain't helping01:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #80239 in language-selector (main) "Problem Report for language-selector-commo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8023901:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #80241 in adept (main) "adept-common depends on apt-index-watcher" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8024102:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #80242 in Ubuntu "keyboard layout bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8024202:21
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MagicFabhi- I' m here for bug's day, would like to join QA - read through the docs already02:29
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UbugtuNew bug: #80248 in update-manager (main) "e2fsprogs initscripts volumeid Update Issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8024802:40
TeTeThi MagicFab02:41
MagicFabTeTeT,02:45
UbugtuNew bug: #80249 in debian-installer (main) "Installer re-partitioning doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8024902:45
MagicFabSo I am not sure where to begin today :) I'll be around and ask sfllaw later I guess02:45
UbugtuNew bug: #80250 in graphviz (main) "need version update & python support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025002:55
MagicFabDo I need additional permission to set a bug status to " Needs info"  for example ?02:58
TLEcjwatson: Ok now. I'm not actually working on any if those bugs, I just helped tsurc find it03:00
UbugtuNew bug: #80251 in control-center (main) "Gnome Sound Properties crashes when selecting ALSA as Recording Input" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025103:00
TLEMagicFab: no anybody can set the status. It's the importance setting that is retstricted03:00
persiaMagicFab: If a bug is set to Needs Info, just be sure that the necessary questions about the information required are posted as comments to the bug first.03:00
MagicFabTLE where can I change the status on an existing bug ? I only see options for visibility/security, tags, and other but not for status03:02
dsasMagicFab: You can click on the package name in the "affects" line.03:03
dsas(the peachy coloured thing at the top)03:03
cjwatsonTLE: sure, just propagating knowledge in case others come along03:04
MagicFabdsas, ok tx. I would have never thought of clicking there.03:04
cjwatsonit's a weird UI03:04
MagicFabcjwatson, yeah03:04
dsasMagicFab: Yeah, I had to go and ask in #launchpad when I started. Lots of people trip up over that.03:05
UbugtuNew bug: #80252 in Ubuntu "grey boot splash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025203:05
TLEcjwatson: "just propagating knowledge in case others come along" good idea03:06
TeTeTMagicFab: I had the same experience with affects and there is a bug filed against lp on this usability issue03:07
MagicFabTeTeT, do u have the URL ? I would put all my influence on it :)03:07
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TeTeTMagicFab: sorry, no URL at hand03:10
cjwatsonit's been an issue roughly forever03:11
cjwatsonhttps://launchpad.net/malone/+bug/109503:11
UbugtuMalone bug 1095 in malone "Unnecessarily difficult to find how to change status or reassign a bug" [Medium,Confirmed] 03:11
UbugtuNew bug: #80253 in ubiquity (main) "Can't launch ubiquity on 20070117 feisty-desktop-i386.iso" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025303:15
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cjwatson80253 is a debconf bug. Fixing shortly03:19
MagicFabcjwatson, tx., will subscribe to that. I commented the UI problem bug.03:24
MagicFabTeTeT, can you comment that bug too ? I made a suggestion there.03:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #80254 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "ueagle-atm kernel module causing high load average" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025403:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #80255 in language-selector (main) "I have 0.2.2 language-selector and this bug(feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025503:35
UbugtuNew bug: #80256 in synaptic (main) "Move synaptic menu icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025603:35
UbugtuNew bug: #80257 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025703:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #80260 in aptitude (main) "aptitude crashes if cd-rom is not present while installing more than one package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026003:40
UbugtuNew bug: #80258 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) ""copy disk" blocks at end" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8025803:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #76409 in nfs-utils (main) "rpc.gssd doesn't process -d option correctly" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7640903:46
WaterSevenUbRegarding bug #79406... openoffice.org-help-pt-pt does not exist and apparently it should. The field "Affects" should have openoffice.org or language-support-pt? thx.03:47
UbugtuMalone bug 79406 in language-support-pt "Help in Portuguese" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7940603:47
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cjwatsonWaterSevenUb: openoffice.org-l10n03:49
cjwatson(which is the source package that builds openoffice.org-help-pt-br)03:49
cjwatsonif the package just doesn't exist, then language-support-pt can't do much about that03:50
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WaterSevenUbcjwatson, Yeah... I've originally posted correctly... someone changed it.... thx. Should I assign it to doko?03:50
cjwatsonWaterSevenUb: no03:51
cjwatsondoko is already automatically subscribed to OOo bugs, and you're not his manager so shouldn't be assigning work to him03:51
WaterSevenUb:) ok03:52
MagicFabcjwatson, I changed the description for that bug. (Ooo-pt help)03:53
sfllawHappy Hug Day everybody!04:09
sfllawMagicFab: Hi, saw your message.04:10
MagicFabsfllaw, hey04:10
sfllawMagicFab: You want to join UbuntuQA?04:10
sfllawWe're processing applications today.04:10
MagicFabsfllaw, I' d like to, i am submitting / needing to assign status /importance to more and more bugs related to the support cases we get04:10
UbugtuNew bug: #80263 in Ubuntu "system becomes unresponsive over the day" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026304:11
MagicFabsfllaw, right now, just making sure I know how to properly fill bugs and help with existing ones.04:11
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cjwatsonsfllaw: how many pending applications are there?04:14
sfllawcjwatson: 33.  But some of them don't respond to e-mail.  :(04:15
UbugtuNew bug: #80262 in Ubuntu "X does not start with SAM2 Abit NF-M2S NVidia 6100" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026204:15
sfllawdous: Ping?04:15
sfllawbdmurray: Ping?04:16
sfllawfernando: Ping?04:16
fernandosfllaw: Pong04:16
sfllawfernando: You applied to join UbuntuQA?04:17
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pcollaoghi04:18
sfllawpcollaog: Welcome!04:18
fernandosfllaw: yes, but i can to accept for now.04:18
sfllaw"can to accept"?04:18
pcollaogi need a little help with feisty...04:18
pcollaogdoesn't start :( with the las kernel04:18
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pcollaogany bug for reference?04:19
andcorHi, i'm not the programming ekspert, but I would like to help at hug-day, how can I ?04:19
sfllawpcollaog: I'd suggest looking under the linux-source-2.6.20 to see if you can find a related bug.04:20
UbugtuNew bug: #80264 in kdewebdev (main) "Recommends 'wdg-html-reference' package, but it doesn't exists (dup-of: 79075)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026404:20
sfllawandcor: A good place to get a feel for things is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs04:20
sfllawandcor: Let us know if you have any questions!04:20
fernandosfllaw: I'm not ready for qa responsibilities =) other time04:20
andcorsfllaw: Thanks04:20
pcollaogsfllaw, i think the problem ... maybe in the initrd.img04:20
sfllawfernando: All right.  I'm going to reject you to clear you out of the queue.  Feel free to reapply at a later date.04:21
fernandosfllaw: thank you04:21
pcollaogbecause can't find the volumeid from the hard disc..04:21
sfllawfernando: No, thank you!04:22
pcollaogwith the kernel 2.6.19-7 start normally04:22
sfllawpcollaog: Does update-initramfs help?  Does this kernel only break on your computer?  Is there anything funny inside the initramfs?04:24
sfllawpredius: Ping?04:24
UbugtuNew bug: #80265 in gnome-mount (main) "bubble appears over the panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026504:25
pcollaogsfllaw... nop... no funny things inside the initramfs... just upgrade my kernel with apt04:25
bac#QUIT04:26
sfllawbac: I don't think that's right.04:26
sfllawpcollaog: Is there a bug filed about it?04:26
bacclearly itr's a bug!04:26
bacclearly itr's a bug!;-)04:26
pcollaognop... just y try the get more info...04:27
pcollaogwell y think that will be reported in bugtraker04:27
sfllawpcollaog: You could be the first to bump into it.04:28
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MagicFabsfllaw, triaging includes setting importance.. but I can' t seem to do that. Do I have to show status assigbnment skills before being able to set importance ?04:29
sfllawMagicFab: Finding duplicates, doing Needs Info work, and looking into the causes of a bug are the big things we're looking for.04:31
MagicFabok04:31
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sfllawMagicFab: After you've done a bit of that, and have read Bugs/Importance, you'll be ready.04:31
MagicFabI already have several of those. How many do you need to look at ? I was thinking ~ 30. Seing that ubotu makes it so easy to catch recently reported bugs, I think I' ll be doing quite a bit (out of my shift)04:33
sfllawYou should just show me about 3-5 that you think you're particularly proud of.04:33
MagicFabsfllaw, ok04:33
sfllawMez: Ping?04:34
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sfllawrpereira: Ping?04:35
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sfllawbddebian: Hey!04:35
bddebianHi sfllaw04:36
Mezsfllaw,  sup?04:36
andcorsfllaw: Do I understand the page right if I say that the thing you would want me to do is bug triaging ?04:36
sfllawMez: You applied to join UbuntuQA, but you're actually part of the Dev Team already.04:36
andcorOr is there anything more important and time pressing ?04:36
Mezsfllaw, ...?04:37
sfllawandcor: Well, lots of things are equally important, but for bug work, bug triaging is quite essential.04:37
sfllawMez: You're Martin Meredith, right?04:38
andcorsfllaw: I just want to help you guys where you most want it04:38
sfllawandcor: We need help everywhere!  Ubuntu is a big community project.04:38
TLEhey andcor you dropped by04:39
MagicFabShould I reject or close a bug that is a duplicate of another bug that has been fixed ?04:39
andcorok, i'll start triaging, and when I have boosted up my programming skills and have a little more free time i'll maybe help sorting bugs04:40
crimsunMagicFab: has it already been marked a dupe?04:40
MagicFabcrimsun, yes04:40
crimsunMagicFab: then don't touch it04:40
andcorTLE: yeah, thougt it was a good cause04:40
sfllawMagicFab: There's no need to close bugs that are duplicates.04:40
sfllawMagicFab: They don't turn up in searches any more.04:40
Mezsfllaw, yes04:40
TLEandcor: great04:40
MagicFabsfllaw, I searched for " unconfirmed, assigned to no one" , that' s how I found it04:41
andcorTLE: Thought I would do some triaging04:41
sfllawMez: You applied for https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa/+members04:41
Mezsfllaw, I just went on a mad thing and joined all the ubuntu-*groups that I didnt seem to be a part of04:41
sfllawMez: Ah.04:41
MezI musta missed that I was04:41
TLEandcor: sound like a good idea, there's plenty to sink your teeth in04:41
andcorTLE: looks like it04:41
sfllawMez: Well, you already have all the permissions that are granted therein because of your Dev Team status.04:41
sfllawMez: If you want to be part of another team though, please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA04:42
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sfllawSo as part of this Hug Day, I want to welcome two interns that we have working in the Montreal office.04:42
sfllawEveryone, say "hi" to cburg and mikebro.04:42
crimsuncburg: / mikebro: welcome!04:42
sfllawThey'll be in the office with us until April.04:43
TLEandcor: and someone will be here to give you a hug after your first triaging04:43
cburgHello everyone.04:43
mikebroHello04:43
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andcorTLE: you get hugs for triaging ? ;-)04:43
MagicFabcburg, mikebro great :) haven' t said hi yet - I am at support just on the other side of that wall (well, I arrive at 3pm)04:44
TLEandcor: yep04:44
andcorTLE: nice04:44
MagicFabcburg, mikebro I' ll make it up with some Ubuntu stickers :D04:44
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sfllawyuriy: Ping?04:47
andcorTLE: I've got an bug here that says that xrandr doesn't reset his settings at logout, but I don't think it is supposed to04:49
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andcorTLE: how can I find out what to do with that04:49
TLEandcor: do you have a bug number, it'll make it easier for the others in here to help yo also ?04:51
andcorTLE: #5010204:52
andcorTLE :doesn't say that much, but before asking bout more info, I just wanted to be sure if xrandr is supposed to reset at log out04:53
TLEandcor: yeah, I don't know but there is another way to go on04:53
andcorTLE: listening04:54
TLEandcor: since this bug has been filed before edgy, and clearly isn't serious enough to warrant an updated package, then mark it as needs info and ask the user if the bug is still present in edgy04:54
andcorok, sure04:55
TLEandcor: remember to click to email to notify you of changes04:55
andcoryeah04:55
UbugtuNew bug: #80266 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Ubiquity crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026604:55
TLEandcor: then add this bug to (what ever tool you want to use to make a) bug TODO list and return later. I usually give it 30 days but I don't know what the standard is04:56
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andcorTLE: ok, and if there isn't an answer before the 30 days gone past, then I reject the bug, or do I just wait longer ?04:57
sfllawTLE: You can get a list of your assigned bugs.04:57
sfllawhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~sfllaw/+assignedbugs04:57
sfllawIf you assign a bug to yourself when you set it to Needs Info, this works really well.04:57
TLEthen if it hasn't been answered, you reject it, and make a comment to the initial reporter that he can reopen it if it is still present04:58
cjwatsonmake sure to unassign it when you're not responsible for following it any more04:59
TLEsfllaw: yeah I know, but I like to have some more features, like being able to set a "look at this next time" date and make my own comments04:59
sfllawTLE: Fair enough.04:59
TLEsfllaw: So far I use the TODO list in evolution though it is hardly optimal04:59
TLEsfllaw: but thanks for the info anyway04:59
andcorTLE: Thanks for the help05:00
UbugtuNew bug: #71653 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Sudden crash/close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7165305:00
TLEI wouldn't mind seeing that functionality in LP though, but I guess that's stuff for a dev. spec. proposal ;)05:01
TLEandcor: you are welcome05:01
TLEandcor: if you get an answer we can look at it again05:02
andcorthanks05:02
dholbachMagicFab: welcome to the BugSquad!05:05
MagicFabdholbach, tx05:05
MagicFabdholbach, working my way through to QA05:05
UbugtuNew bug: #80268 in avahi (main) "Avahi daemon should not try to resolve hostnames during bootup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026805:05
dholbachThanks a lot for helping out!05:06
MagicFabThe importance status of upstream-reported bugs does not seem to be updated although it is set upstream - where should I look for an existing bug report fot his or to report it ?05:07
MagicFabExample: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/5403405:07
UbugtuMalone bug 54034 in xfce4-panel "XFCE Kiosk Mode Broken" [Unknown,Fix released] 05:07
dholbachMagicFab: maybe the upstream bug was added less than a day ago?05:07
dholbachMagicFab: afaik the upstream status is updated only once a day05:07
MagicFabdholbach, no, it'05:07
dholbachoh... ok - the status is updated, but not the importance05:08
MagicFab it' s >6mo05:08
dholbachbest to ask in #launchpad05:08
dholbachI have no idea about that - iirc it's jamesh who hacked on the bug watch updater magic.05:08
MagicFabdholbach, tx, just did05:08
dholbachrock'n'roll :)05:08
UbugtuNew bug: #80269 in amarok (main) "amarok missing dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026905:10
UbugtuNew bug: #71783 in firefox (main) "Problem using Exchange webmail" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7178305:16
UbugtuNew bug: #68993 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Resume from suspend to RAM does not work with sata disk (dup-of: 68927)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6899305:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #80271 in gnomebaker (universe) "Can't create CD iso in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027105:40
UbugtuNew bug: #80270 in firefox (main) "Firefox dies during save dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027005:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #80272 in evince (main) "does not print remote pdf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027205:45
MagicFabHow is this uspposed to be triaged: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-xkb-plugin/+bug/7658105:45
UbugtuMalone bug 76581 in xfce4-xkb-plugin "SRU: xfce4-xkb-plugin in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 05:45
crimsunMagicFab: it's proper in its current state05:47
cjwatsonMagicFab: don't bother, aside from making sure that ubuntu-sru or motu-sru as appropriate are subscribed05:47
cjwatsonI'll fix up the subscriptions now05:47
MagicFabwhat is sru ?05:49
cjwatsonMagicFab: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates05:50
cjwatsonI've dealt with 76581 now05:50
MagicFaboh -ok. and wait - I originally reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-xkb-plugin/+bug/53532 ! :D small world05:50
UbugtuMalone bug 53532 in xfce4-xkb-plugin ""Per application settings" lost between sessions" [Undecided,Confirmed] 05:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #80273 in python-defaults (main) "Python crashes when opening Pypanel (64bit proc)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027305:55
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jwendelldholbach, around?05:59
UbugtuNew bug: #80267 in bzr-svn "commit adding a file fails  (dup-of: 79330)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026706:00
dholbachjwendell: yep06:01
yuriysfllaw: pong06:02
sfllawyuriy: You applied to UbuntuQA.  We're processing applications today.  Are you ready?06:02
dholbachgo sfllaw go!06:02
cypher1HUG DAY!!06:02
cypher1hi dholbach , sfllaw !06:03
dholbachhi cypher106:03
sfllawcypher1: Hellos!06:03
jwendelldholbach, can you run gdmsetup on your machine? i have a updated feisty and it does not start, no error message06:03
yuriysfllaw: yeah06:03
cypher1how are you dholbach , sfllaw06:03
dholbachcypher1: fine fine - how are YOU?06:03
sfllawyuriy: Have you consulted https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA?06:03
dholbachjwendell: that's a known bug06:03
cypher1dholbach, fine here too :)06:03
dholbachgreat :)06:03
yuriysfllaw: yeah, i read the pages06:03
sfllawcypher1: A little patch of sunlight is warming my foot.  I'm very content.06:04
jwendelldholbach, really? i found nothing in LP06:04
sfllawyuriy: So, are you polite to our users, no matter what?06:04
cypher1sfllaw, cool :) .. hope "cool" does not cool your feet ;)06:04
sfllawyuriy: Have you read HowToTriage and Importance pages?06:04
yuriysfllaw: I worked on bugs a bunch last spring and again over the past month.  I listed a few at the bottom of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/YuriyKozlov06:04
yuriysfllaw: yeah, i do my best! and i did read the pages06:04
UbugtuNew bug: #80274 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install crashes on start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027406:05
dholbachjwendell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-glib/+bug/7124806:05
UbugtuMalone bug 71248 in dbus "apps using dbus hang when runned with sudo" [Unknown,In progress] 06:05
jwendellahh06:06
sfllawyuriy: Looks good.  Welcome to the team!06:06
yuriysfllaw: thanks!06:06
cypher1jwendell,can you please tell which bug are you talking about06:07
jwendellcypher1, look above, dholback pointed06:08
cypher1jwendell, ok :)06:08
somerville32sfllaw, Would we be able to get a confirmed procedure for bug reports that are really feature requests but not big enough to warrant a specification?06:09
dsassomerville32: set them to wishlist and punt them upstream is what I do.06:10
sfllawsomerville32: That's fairly reasonable.06:10
UbugtuNew bug: #80275 in Ubuntu "installer crashed (kubuntu 7.04)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027506:10
sfllawI'm not really sure what to do.06:10
somerville32Most people seem to set it to wishlist and confirmed and thank them.06:11
cjwatsonthat seems entirely appropriate06:12
cjwatsonwe're a bit overloaded with specifications that shouldn't be06:13
cjwatson(makes it difficult to find useful things at the start of each feature cycle)06:13
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sfllawcjwatson: The problem seems to be that we never actually fix wishlist bugs.06:18
sfllawyuriy: Sorry, I forgot to hit the "Approve" button.06:18
sfllawyuriy: You're actually in now.  :)06:19
cjwatsonsfllaw: real bugs are always higher priority than new features (aside from commercially-driven ones), but I think "never" is a bit strong06:19
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yuriywell shouldn't they generally go upstream anyways06:21
cjwatsonthat depends06:22
cjwatsonwishlist bugs can be distro-specific just like non-wishlist bugs06:23
cjwatsona whole bunch of mine are06:23
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UbugtuNew bug: #69421 in ieee80211 (universe) "ieee80211 won't make (dup-of: 63418)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6942106:25
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salgadoa bunch of bugs have been marked as dupes of bug 6341806:30
UbugtuMalone bug 63418 in linux-source-2.6.17 "CPU soft lockup during bootup" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6341806:30
salgadobug 70169, bug 69421, bug 6924606:30
UbugtuMalone bug 70169 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 "Dapper --> Edgy upgrade doesn't install proper l-r-m package (dup-of: 63418)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7016906:30
UbugtuMalone bug 63418 in linux-source-2.6.17 "CPU soft lockup during bootup" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6341806:30
UbugtuMalone bug 69421 in ieee80211 "ieee80211 won't make (dup-of: 63418)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6942106:31
UbugtuMalone bug 63418 in linux-source-2.6.17 "CPU soft lockup during bootup" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6341806:31
UbugtuMalone bug 69246 in Ubuntu "Network link is not ready at boot (dup-of: 63418)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6924606:31
UbugtuMalone bug 63418 in linux-source-2.6.17 "CPU soft lockup during bootup" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6341806:31
UbugtuNew bug: #80276 in kdebase (main) "konqueror doesn't display left arrow math symbol" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027606:31
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salgadocould it be somebody testing the bughelper on production?06:31
sfllawBurgwork: Welcome!06:31
Burgworkhey sfllaw06:31
dsassalgado: Bughelper only reads LP not write.06:33
dholbachsalgado: are you experiencing high load?06:35
salgadodholbach, no, it's just that https://launchpad.net/~pwwnow has marked a lot of bugs as dupes of bug 63418, and they have nothing to do with that bug06:35
UbugtuMalone bug 63418 in linux-source-2.6.17 "CPU soft lockup during bootup" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6341806:35
dholbachsalgado: ah ok... sorry - didn't read that above. as dsas said: bughelper just uses urllib.urlopen(..).read() on LP06:36
dholbachdsas: maybe we should have our own http client id at some stage, also printing the version06:37
dholbachor "http agent id"06:37
dsasdholbach: Sounds like an idea. Should be easy to do I think.06:38
salgadodholbach, right, then the guy seems to have no clue on what he's doing... I only noticed this because notifications of bugs to which I'm subscribed fall into my inbox06:39
salgadoI hope he's not doing the same with other bugs06:39
dholbachright06:40
sfllawsalgado: Do we have activity logs for users?06:40
dholbachsalgado: i really hope bughelper doesn't cause LP grief06:40
dsasheh, it's times like this a "show all duplicate bugs" search box would be handy.06:40
sfllawAside from just Karma?06:40
salgadosfllaw, no06:40
sfllawsalgado: That's unfortunate.06:40
salgadoindeed06:41
bdmurraysfllaw: here now06:42
dholbachdsas: maybe it'd involve modifying urllib.URLopener.version06:42
sfllawsalgado: What's the group of LP people who can actually see people's e-mail addresses?06:42
sfllawbdmurray: You've applied for UbuntuQA.  Today we are processing candidates.06:42
dholbachsfllaw: you have the mail address in the mail that tells you that somebody wants to join the team06:42
sfllawbdmurray: Would you be ready?06:42
salgadosfllaw, if the person has choosen to hide email addresses then only members of launchpad.net/~admins can see them06:43
bdmurraysfllaw: yes, I believe so06:43
dholbachdsas: if nobody does it before, I think i'll have a go at it, when I think about bughelper doing the LP page cache06:43
dholbachsfllaw: at least that's how i do it, when I want to talk to people before06:43
sfllawdholbach: Even for people who hide their e-mail?  I should start saving those then.06:43
dholbachsfllaw: yes06:43
MagicFabdholbach, sfllaw I did a few bugs during this morning. I've put the links on my wiki. Can either of you tell me if I can apply for QA or if I should do more ?06:44
dholbachsfllaw: it'S in reply-to or something06:44
MagicFabThey' re listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fabi%c3%a1nRodr%c3%adguez/QAApplication06:44
dholbachMagicFab: sfllaw mostly takes care of ubuntu-qa06:44
MagicFabdholbach, ok noted :)06:44
dholbachMagicFab: ROCK :)06:44
sfllawAnd dholbach mostly takes care of BugSquad.06:44
dholbach(and other teams :-))06:45
sfllawMan, how do you keep up?06:45
sfllawsalgado: Can we extract an activity log for pwwnow?06:45
dholbachsfllaw: I just try to keep up :-)06:45
UbugtuNew bug: #80279 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "IPv6 Router Advertisements are not accepted or not processed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8027906:47
MagicFabsfllaw,  I did a few bugs during this morning. I've put the links on my wiki. Can you tell me if I can apply for QA or if I should do more ? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fabi%c3%a1nRodr%c3%adguez/QAApplication06:47
MagicFabsfllaw, just requested membership on the LP QA team, awaiting your review06:48
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salgadosfllaw, we could do something by looking at actions on bugs performed by him, but that's somewhat limited since there may be actions that are not recorded and it's also restricted to bugs06:49
sfllawsalgado: Oy.06:50
sfllawbdmurray, MagicFab: I'll be with you after I do some research on 63418.06:50
MagicFabsfllaw, np - I' ll go water the flowers, then :)06:51
UbugtuNew bug: #80280 in Ubuntu "RNDIS driver does not work as a module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028006:55
UbugtuNew bug: #80281 in partitioner (universe) "partition the disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028106:55
cjwatsonthat's so not in partitioner06:59
cjwatsonunless they're on, like, s39006:59
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UbugtuNew bug: #71773 in yum (universe) "Unable to run Yum in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7177307:00
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sfllawcjwatson: Ha!  :)  Source package names are sometimes very unintuitive.07:01
sfllawbdmurray: All right.07:02
sfllawbdmurray: 1. Are you polite?07:02
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sfllawbdmurray: 2. Have you done your homework by reading HowToTriage and Importance?07:02
sfllawbdmurray: 3. Do you have a list of triaged bugs?07:02
sfllawMagicFab: Similar questions...07:03
MagicFabsfllaw, yes to the 307:03
MagicFabsfllaw, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fabi%c3%a1nRodr%c3%adguez/QAApplication for some bugs I' ve triaged07:03
sfllawMagicFab: Please assign yourself to bugs that you change to Needs Info.07:05
bdmurraysfflaw: 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Where should I put it?07:05
bdmurraysfllaw: 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Where should I put it?07:05
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MagicFabsfllaw, ok07:05
sfllawMagicFab: And then unassign yourself after you change it to Rejected or Confirmed.07:05
sfllawMagicFab: This is documented in Bugs/HowToTriage.07:05
UbugtuNew bug: #80282 in xen-3.0 (main) "no xen-3.0 in feisty" [Critical,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028207:05
sfllawbdmurray: Anywhere?  Pastebin?07:05
sfllawMagicFab: See bug 5389707:06
UbugtuMalone bug 53897 in xfce4-panel "Disappearing panels Xubuntu dapper" [Unknown,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5389707:06
stoonehi07:06
stoonehow can i get the ./configure options of a deb package? (i want to recompile some packages with debugging symbols.)07:06
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MagicFabok07:07
sfllawMagicFab: Welcome to the team!07:08
MagicFabI see I can now set importance, and milestone. So not touching milestone07:08
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sfllawGood plan.07:08
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sfllawMilestones will get changed closer to release.07:09
sfllawI need to write something up about that.07:09
MagicFabOh, and importance is required! Makes sense :)07:09
MagicFabtx07:09
bdmurraysfllaw: 3. http://pastebin.com/86143407:10
sfllawbdmurray: I'll get back to you when I return.07:12
sfllawWill you still be online?07:12
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bdmurraysfllaw: most likely.  About how long will you be?07:12
UbugtuNew bug: #80284 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn Herd 2 installer's partitioner crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028407:15
UbugtuNew bug: #80285 in emerald-themes (universe) "Emerald Theme Manager crashes at klicking right mouse button at title bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028507:15
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dholbachhttp://launchpad.net/bughelper/+milestone/0.107:27
dholbachlooks good :)07:27
dholbachi think i'll grab bug 7922007:28
UbugtuMalone bug 79220 in bughelper "RFE: automate simple adding and changing of info clues" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7922007:28
dholbachdsas: you think we should change the http user agent string for 0.1?07:29
dholbachsalgado: would that help you for statistics?07:30
dsasdholbach: If the LP guys need/want it. It's trivial to do.07:30
salgadodholbach, that'd be very good!07:31
dholbachdoes "bughelper <version we determine anyway> (<urllib standard reply>)" sound good?07:31
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dsasu-a are usually product/<version> I think. but yes07:33
dholbachi'm happy with that too07:34
dholbachsomebody should file a 0.1 bitesize bug about that :)07:34
dsasdholbach: Will do!07:34
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dholbachdsas: gracias07:35
UbugtuNew bug: #80286 in thunar (main) "thunar crash on open of archive file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028607:36
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UbugtuNew bug: #80287 in pysol (universe) "Doesn't start in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028707:46
UbugtuNew bug: #80289 in thunar (main) "Thunar crashes when opening home folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8028907:51
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dsasdholbach: If my branch contains the fix for bug X should I then create the fix for bug Y in a separate clean branch?07:53
dsasif X has not yet been merged.07:53
dholbachdsas: not necessarily, if you didn't do HUGE, complicated changes, it's mostly easy enough to find out by running   bzr diff -r <revision>07:54
UbugtuNew bug: #80292 in amule (universe) "Close Tabs-close all.." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029207:55
UbugtuNew bug: #80293 in kvm (universe) "kvm can't initialize due to old kvm kernel version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029307:55
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dsasdholbach: Ok, the changes are for different files so I guess it doesn't matter this time. Just checking for the future...07:56
UbugtuNew bug: #80291 in gaim (main) "AIM no longer connects and eventually crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029107:56
dholbachdsas: cool - thanks a lot for helping out!07:56
dsasdholbach: no problem :)07:57
UbugtuNew bug: #80290 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu installer crashes while partitioning step (step 6 of 7)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029007:57
dholbachok, the '-sa' feature is in the bag07:59
dholbachYEEEEHAW!07:59
dholbachjust need to find libxml2's prettyprint feature again07:59
dholbachit writes all the xml in one line now ;-)08:00
UbugtuNew bug: #80294 in Ubuntu "Alternate Installer hangs after looking for CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029408:00
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dsasdholbach: cool!08:02
dholbachfound it :-)08:02
dholbach*HAPPY*08:02
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dholbachok, committed to ~dholbach/bughelper/bughelper.dev - if anybody cares to test08:08
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UbugtuNew bug: #80296 in Ubuntu "[Sync Request]  openarena (0.6.0-1) from debian unstable/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029608:15
UbugtuNew bug: #80297 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "sata_via not working anymore - kernel 2.6.20" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029708:15
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dholbachdsas: man, you're damn quick!08:17
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dholbachhehehehe08:17
dholbachROCK08:17
dsasThere were docs and examples already in diveintopython and the python docs :)08:17
UbugtuNew bug: #80298 in scons (main) "can`t set-up or uninstall scons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8029808:20
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dholbachdsas: works nicely08:24
dholbachdsas: committing to bughelper.main08:24
dsasdholbach: cool, thanks.08:24
dholbachdsas: thank YOU!08:24
dholbachpushed :-)08:27
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dholbachgngngn, I committed the 'bugxml -sa' thing to .main by accident08:29
UbugtuNew bug: #80300 in Ubuntu "[Sync Request]  openarena-data (0.6.0-1) from debian unstable/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030008:30
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dsasdholbach: I managed to crash bugxml - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1966/08:31
dholbachinteresting - why didn't i get that?08:32
dholbachi'll check08:32
dholbachit tells me that it needs 3 arguments08:33
dholbach(if i enter, what you did)08:33
dholbachand I don't quite get, how it ends up in the rng_validate() thing - I don't call that in that part of the code... hmmm08:34
dsasI don't already have a libxine clue file btw.08:35
UbugtuNew bug: #80301 in glade-3 (universe) "Add support for launchpad-integration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030108:35
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dsasdholbach_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1966/08:36
dsasoops08:36
dsasdholbach_: I don't already have a libxine clue file btw.08:36
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dholbachdsas: it should create it08:36
dholbachdsas: what happens if you write   bugxml -sa totem "libxine.so" "get debug traces"08:37
dholbach(adding totem source package name)08:37
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dsasdholbach: same again08:39
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dholbachhum08:39
dholbachi have a different line 4308:39
dholbachis that really "if not XMLOperations.rng_validate(schema, xml_file):"?08:39
dsashmm, that is weird.08:40
dsasprint "Package %s does not exist." % sys.argv[2]  is at line 4308:41
dholbachah ok08:41
dholbachif you run    ./bugxml <.....>      does that work?08:41
dsashaha08:41
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dsasyes08:41
dholbachyeeeha08:41
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dsasdholbach: rock!08:42
dholbachdsas: man... we're so 0.1! :-)08:43
DktrKranzguys, what about bughelper?08:43
DktrKranzsome improvements so far?08:44
dsasdholbach: :), 3 to go.08:44
dholbachDktrKranz: you could say that :)08:44
DktrKranzgreat :D08:44
dholbachwe'll have a meeting about it tomorrow08:44
dholbachto discuss where we're going08:44
DktrKranzwhere?08:44
dholbach#ubuntu-meeting, Jan, 18th, 15:00 UTC08:44
dholbachah sorry08:45
dholbach#ubuntu-bugs, Jan, 18th, 15:00 UTC08:45
DktrKranz15? mmmh08:45
dholbach(that's what I said in the mail)08:45
DktrKranzi'll be at work08:45
DktrKranzwill you keep logs, isn't it?08:45
dholbachDktrKranz: I'll send a link to the logs to ubuntu-bugsquad@08:45
DktrKranzwell done08:45
UbugtuNew bug: #80302 in glade-3 (universe) "Improved package descriptions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030208:45
dholbachand add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper08:46
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dholbachdsas: I think we should work on the remaining 0.1 items, then have 2 weeks of testing it within the team, then do the release to the archive08:46
dholbach(and adding of clue files of course)08:47
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dholbachi'll close bug 7922008:48
UbugtuMalone bug 79220 in bughelper "RFE: automate simple adding and changing of info clues" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7922008:48
dsasdholbach: Sounds good!08:49
dsasHmm, I think I'm in uni when the meeting is on tomorrow :(08:50
dholbachoh :-/08:50
dholbachseems I picked a bad time08:50
DktrKranz:)08:50
dholbachwe should probably update the documentation (in bzr and the wiki) to reflect   bugxml -sa <..>  and then write a list to ubuntu-bugsquad@ also08:51
dholbachso everybody adds clues to it as they triage bugs and work on it08:52
DktrKranzwhat about "I/O warning : failed to load external entity "packages/git-core.info"?08:55
dsasdholbach: what does the -sa stand for?08:55
dholbachdsas: simple add08:55
dholbachDktrKranz: that's when a bug has more than tasks and it can't find a clue file about that source package08:56
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dholbachDktrKranz: we could probably suppress libxml2's warning and display something that is more meaningful08:56
DktrKranzgood idea08:56
dholbachDktrKranz: want to file a bitesize bug that is milestoned for 0.1 about that? :)08:57
DktrKranzof course08:57
dholbachDktrKranz: thanks a lot!08:57
DktrKranzyou're welcome :D08:57
DktrKranzit's bugday!08:58
dholbachthis turns more and more into bughelper day instead of bug day ;)08:58
DktrKranzLOL08:58
sfllawbdmurray: Looks pretty good.08:58
DktrKranzwell, i've got some more questions for you python hackers :D08:58
sfllawbdmurray: You may want to revisit bug 76783 which is sort of just drifting there.08:58
UbugtuMalone bug 76783 in apt "apt-cache --installed does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7678308:58
dholbachDktrKranz: sure, go ahead08:58
DktrKranzok08:58
DktrKranzi'm gonna file that bug08:59
DktrKranzand eat my ice-cream :D08:59
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UbugtuNew bug: #80303 in gnome-power-manager (main) "returning from suspend disables/crashes mouse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030309:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #80304 in pavuk (universe) "pavuk GUI is space hungry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030409:15
UbugtuNew bug: #80305 in ubiquity (main) "6.06LTS Installer Crashes at user creation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030509:15
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bdmurraysfllaw: What would you recommend doing with bug 76783?09:17
UbugtuMalone bug 76783 in apt "apt-cache --installed does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7678309:17
UbugtuNew bug: #80306 in libtunepimp (main) "Missing dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030609:20
DktrKranzback hee09:21
DktrKranz*here09:21
dsasbdmurray: You believe right, it should be used as apt-cache (r)depends --installed. Maybe the bug is the documentation not being clear.09:22
DktrKranzi would like to ask you some advices in debugging python apps09:22
DktrKranze.g. bug #76493 in democracyplayer09:22
UbugtuMalone bug 76493 in democracyplayer "Democracy player won't start [feisty] " [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7649309:22
DktrKranzit contains a backtrace, but it doesn't show too much09:22
DktrKranzso i would like to suggest initial reporter to use some python debugger such pdb09:23
dholbachhave a nice evening everybody - see you tomorrow!09:23
DktrKranzbye dholbach09:23
sfllawdholbach: Bye.09:24
sfllawbdmurray: I'd decide what the bug is in and recommend what to do with it.09:24
dholbachbye DktrKranz, bye sfllaw09:24
sfllawbdmurray: Either the bug is in the documentation.09:24
DktrKranzbut i'm not able to debug using such tool :(09:24
sfllawbdmurray: Or the bug is that this option _should_ do what the user expects.09:24
sfllawbdmurray: I vote for the latter, perhaps with a warning that this doesn't quite work right now.09:24
simiraoh, it's wednesday today!09:25
simiraI forgot...09:25
sfllawsimira: Hi!  :)09:25
UbugtuNew bug: #80308 in kdelibs (main) "After creating a new user with a special profile-path kstartupconfig crashs." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8030809:25
bdmurraysfllaw: I believe it is user error09:26
dholbachBe there: #ubuntu-bugs, Jan, 18th, 15:00 UTC - bughelper love for everybody09:26
bdmurrayThat man for apt-cache states "Limit the output of depends and rdepends . . ."09:26
sfllawbdmurray: In which case, it should be an invalid option, shouldn't it?09:29
bdmurrayAh, so the program should tell the user that they are using it wrong if that is in fact the case.09:31
UbugtuNew bug: #80310 in xffm-samba (universe) "samba crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031009:35
UbugtuNew bug: #80312 in Ubuntu "Beryl crashes at session startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031209:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #80313 in Ubuntu "WiFi card not working on Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook C1410" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031309:40
UbugtuNew bug: #80314 in python-musicbrainz2 (universe) "Missing libdiscid0 dependency on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031409:40
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DktrKranzwhat about bug #80260?09:41
UbugtuMalone bug 80260 in aptitude "aptitude crashes if cd-rom is not present while installing more than one package" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8026009:41
DktrKranzdo you think it provides enough informations?09:42
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sfllawDktrKranz: I think so.  It looks like it's strlen-ing an uninitialized string.09:51
DktrKranzi'm not sure if it is related to aptitude or libapt09:52
DktrKranzi've found a couple of *similar* bugs in libapt09:52
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UbugtuNew bug: #80316 in emerald-themes (universe) "emerald-themes 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 has an unmet deps on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031609:55
sfllawDktrKranz: It seems to be a libapt bug, doesn't it?09:55
sfllawDktrKranz: Especially if you read the trace.09:56
DktrKranzso, i guessed right :D09:56
UbugtuNew bug: #80317 in zope2.9 (universe) "Critical bug in Zope 2.9.5 (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031710:00
UbugtuNew bug: #80318 in Ubuntu "3D desktop breaks S3 sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031810:00
DktrKranzsfllaw, could I ask you an advice? it is not related to bugday, but it could help bugsquad in some way10:04
sfllawDktrKranz: Sure.10:04
eroyfbugday!10:04
eroyfare you having bugdays nonight?10:05
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eroyftonight*10:05
sfllaweroyf: Yes.10:05
eroyfnice10:05
eroyfseen my post on your forums?10:05
sfllaweroyf: Bug Day lasts all Wednesday.10:05
eroyfnice :)10:06
UbugtuNew bug: #80319 in beryl-settings (universe) "beryl-setting crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8031910:06
eroyfhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2012812 <- this is the post i was thalking about.10:06
sfllaweroyf: Hmm, that is an intriguing idea.10:07
sfllaweroyf: I don't know how it would work though.10:07
sfllawLots of cross-distribution stuff can apply when it's upstream bugs.10:08
eroyfwell10:10
eroyfit will require a lot of teamwork between our various projects10:10
eroyfi come from gentoo, we should have some debian people, some ubuntu people and so on10:10
dsaseroyf: There used to a linux gaming team that had a similar idea. Each week they'd choose a different linux game, someone would prepare features or lists of bugs to work on in advance, then over the course of a week they'd hack on it.10:10
eroyfalso gnome and kde has talked about it.10:10
eroyfnice10:10
eroyfmy problem is that i don't know to get some attention about this10:11
eroyfi've written this blog post but it's not many people who read it.10:11
sfllaweroyf: What were you thinking of?10:11
sfllaweroyf: I can imagine if we tried to get KDE bugs synchronized across distros.10:12
eroyfgetting someone to talk!10:12
sfllaweroyf: But I'm having trouble thinking of how all of us could get in the same channel and communicate well.10:12
eroyfwell, it's more about having a day and some website iwth some stats on so on.10:12
sfllaweroyf: Because things are subtly different across distros.10:12
eroyfwell10:12
eroyfit would be an upstream bugday project10:13
sfllawPick an upstream and adopt it for a day?10:13
eroyfthen the small projects (gentoo, ubuntu, debian... and so on)10:13
eroyfthen their own team does the bugday10:13
sfllawHmm.10:13
eroyfand the big bugday project keeps some stats and announces this10:13
eroyfthe idea is to get attention to ALL projects10:13
sfllawYeah, I can see that.10:13
eroyfinstead of you have hug days each wedensday, we have first saturday in the month and so on10:13
eroyfso that users know that _THAT_ day is bugday.10:14
UbugtuNew bug: #80320 in Ubuntu "My USB Bluetooth module is not registered if plugged in at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032010:16
UbugtuNew bug: #80321 in Ubuntu "fontconfig-voodoo suddenly crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032110:16
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sfllaweroyf: Hmm.10:19
sfllaweroyf: I'd be up for that.10:19
sfllaweroyf: You'd be the guy on Gentoo's side organizing this?10:19
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UbugtuNew bug: #80322 in linux-meta (main) "vmware-player-kernel-modules are not installable in a chroot environment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032210:21
UbugtuNew bug: #80324 in schoolbell (main) "unmet deps on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032410:25
UbugtuNew bug: #80323 in gdm (main) "Ubuntu Fiesty Herd 2 - i386 Alternate CD - gdmsetup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032310:26
eroyfyes i am10:26
eroyfi am leader of gentoo's bugday team10:26
eroyfi need to get home from LUG meeting -- bbl10:26
UbugtuNew bug: #80325 in gnome-system-tools (main) "Network-admin cannot set right parameters for static IP connection, or switching locations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032510:30
UbugtuNew bug: #80326 in ttf-isabella (universe) "X foundry "unknown"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032610:30
UbugtuNew bug: #69401 in firefox (main) "(edgy) preferences & actual setting vary (dup-of: 75758)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6940110:31
DktrKranzsfllaw, sorry, but i had some trouble10:33
DktrKranzif you want, i would like to receive your advice10:34
UbugtuNew bug: #80327 in Ubuntu "Evolution bug when logging in twice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032710:35
sfllawDktrKranz: Sure.10:38
sfllawDktrKranz: You'll have to ask me a specific question.10:38
DktrKranzyes10:38
sfllawDktrKranz: Otherwise, I will tell you to do things like "Go outside and enjoy a sunset."10:38
DktrKranzit is not strictly related to bugday, but could be of some help for BugSquad10:39
UbugtuNew bug: #80332 in firefox (main) "Firefox 2.0.0.1 crash on Ubuntu-edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033210:40
UbugtuNew bug: #80328 in ubiquity (main) "Installer (ubiquity) doesn't work/start in current-live cd - missing depconf library " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032810:41
UbugtuNew bug: #80329 in kdesdk (main) "kdesdk-kio-plugins cannot be installed on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032910:41
UbugtuNew bug: #80331 in Ubuntu "laptop mode is not disabled after plugging in AC power" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033110:41
DktrKranzanyway10:41
DktrKranzyou probably know something about forum ambassadors10:42
DktrKranzas Italian community, we would like to implement such feature10:44
DktrKranzin order to help our users to begin interaction with malone10:44
DktrKranzand try to teach them how to fill complete bug reports10:45
DktrKranzdo you think it could be useful in some way?10:47
UbugtuNew bug: #80337 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythtv front end crashes when opening programming guide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033710:50
UbugtuNew bug: #80338 in bzrk (universe) "bzrk merged into bzr-gtk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033810:50
UbugtuNew bug: #80333 in Ubuntu "fonts still missing for Unicode ranges" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033310:51
UbugtuNew bug: #80334 in Ubuntu "Installer changes disk despite of canceling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033410:51
UbugtuNew bug: #80335 in olive (universe) "olive has merged into bzr-gtk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033510:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #80339 in gdm (main) "/etc/init.d/gdm restart fails to start gdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8033910:55
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sfllawDktrKranz: Yes, I think that's a great idea.11:09
sfllawDktrKranz: We're definitely hoping to provide more help to users when it comes to interacting with us as a development community.11:10
DktrKranzgreat11:10
DktrKranzwe are planning to extend such support to IRC and mailing lists too11:10
DktrKranzit will requre more work and more people involved11:11
DktrKranzbut that's not a bad thing afer all11:11
DktrKranzthe more people involved, the more knowledge of malone11:11
DktrKranzwe're still on planning phase11:13
DktrKranzbut our locoteam11:13
DktrKranz(which includes mkde)11:14
DktrKranzis taking that into consideration11:14
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UbugtuNew bug: #80341 in kerry (universe) "The package kerry contains only language files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8034111:15
sfllawDktrKranz: Please keep me informed.11:16
sfllawDktrKranz: I don't speak Italian, though.11:16
DktrKranzno problem11:16
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DktrKranzif you have advices on how we can contribute with Bugsquad11:17
DktrKranzdon't be shy :D11:17
sfllawDktrKranz: All right.11:17
ajmitchsfllaw is never shy :)11:17
DktrKranzyeah!11:17
sfllawajmitch: Now how did I get that reputation?11:18
ajmitchoh I don't know11:18
DktrKranzsfllaw, thanks11:20
DktrKranzcould I contact you in the future if we need some startup tips?11:21
sfllawDktrKranz: Yup.11:22
DktrKranzwell11:22
DktrKranzI'm going to report this to my LoCo11:22
DktrKranzI think they will appreciate :)11:22
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UbugtuNew bug: #80343 in gnome-session (main) "invisible logout dialog with xcompmgr" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8034311:26
sfllawsomerville32: Bug 5616111:29
UbugtuMalone bug 56161 in mousepad "Segfault when saving files on AMD64" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5616111:29
sfllawsomerville32: I would like to talk to you about this SRU.11:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #80344 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Sound works only a few weeks per year" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8034411:36
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sfllawUbugtu: That is the best subject ever.  ^^^11:36
UbugtuNew bug: #80345 in gaupol (universe) "gaupol crashes upon start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8034511:41
UbugtuNew bug: #80347 in Ubuntu "User does not belong to games group" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8034711:45
dsassfllaw: bug 78578 makes me laugh11:49
UbugtuMalone bug 78578 in flightgear "A normal flight crashed unexpectedly" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7857811:49
TLE*G* Yeah I can confirm that, actually that bug is present in a lot of games where you can fly. I just experienced in BF1942 also11:50
UbugtuNew bug: #80348 in nicotine (universe) "Crash, just started program for first time and conducted a search" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8034811:55
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totopalmabye bye12:03
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UbugtuNew bug: #80349 in apache2-mpm-itk (universe) "unmet deps on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8034912:05
UbugtuNew bug: #80350 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  Can't write to partitions on external disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8035012:05

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