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| fabbione | morning | 06:18 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 2.6.20-5.7 uploaded - Things are getting solid now. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Sat Jan 6 08:06:31 2007 | ||
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| jes-o-mat | kylem: your changes made it into git - thnx | 11:59 |
| jes-o-mat | now I'm just wondering how to compile your tree | 12:02 |
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| jes-o-mat | a lot of files are missing in the debian/ directory | 12:18 |
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| jes-o-mat | BenC: maybe you know some points that will get me further? | 12:22 |
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| \sh | which script generates the initrd for the linux-image package in postinstall? I don't see it in debian/* of linux-source-*, could be that I'm blind ;) | 12:50 |
| Mithrandir | kernel-package | 12:54 |
| \sh | yes...I see it now ;) make-kpkg generates postinst | 12:58 |
| cjwatson | BenC: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/76341 is quite a nasty issue. Do you think you/kyle could have a look at it with the lkml reference I gave? | 01:51 |
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| BenC | cjwatson: sure | 02:17 |
| BenC | cjwatson: Ah, I talked to Keybuk about this, and I'm not sure we've concluded whether it was a udev or a kernel bug | 02:17 |
| BenC | the kernel code hasn't changed | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | the lkml thread seemed to reckon that it was a kernel bug due to MODALIAS=i82365 | 02:18 |
| cjwatson | but I couldn't find anything outside that thread | 02:19 |
| cjwatson | I tried to work around it in udev rules, but haven't succeeded yet | 02:19 |
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| jes-o-mat | BenC: no idea regarding my problem? | 02:38 |
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| BenC | jes-o-mat: The URL in the topic has a link to compiling custom kernels | 02:40 |
| zul | hey | 02:41 |
| jes-o-mat | BenC: yes and I was using the commands as written | 02:41 |
| BenC | jes-o-mat: Without some context, I can't give you any more info | 02:42 |
| jes-o-mat | but there are a lot files missing in kylem's git tree | 02:42 |
| BenC | Like what files | 02:42 |
| jes-o-mat | basic things like copyright e.g. | 02:43 |
| BenC | what git tree are you using? | 02:43 |
| jes-o-mat | I have taken some of them from the linux-source package, but now I got to a point where the build scripts needs some debian/d-i/shared/firmware/* files which are not present | 02:44 |
| jes-o-mat | ubuntu-dapper-updates.git | 02:44 |
| jes-o-mat | from kyle | 02:44 |
| BenC | on kernel.org? | 02:44 |
| jes-o-mat | yes | 02:45 |
| jes-o-mat | http://www.kernel.org/git/linux/kernel/git/kyle/ubuntu-dapper-updates.git | 02:45 |
| jes-o-mat | I fetched it as supposed via rsync | 02:45 |
| BenC | I get 404 on that url | 02:46 |
| jes-o-mat | Generating...... | 02:47 |
| jes-o-mat | http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/kyle/ubuntu-dapper-updates.git;a=summary | 02:48 |
| jes-o-mat | sorry | 02:48 |
| jes-o-mat | mixed up http and rsync url's a bit | 02:49 |
| BenC | http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/kyle/ubuntu-dapper-updates.git;a=tree;f=debian;h=1690c1d0bf1d38ebd708df29599ae4195871d490;hb=HEAD | 02:49 |
| BenC | shows the copyright file, and others | 02:49 |
| BenC | must be your lock tree | 02:49 |
| BenC | s/lock/local/ | 02:50 |
| jes-o-mat | I used the following to fetch the tree: git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/kyle/ubuntu-dapper-updates.git ubuntu-dapper-updates | 02:51 |
| BenC | All I know is, the tree on kernel.org is fine...not sure why yours is having problems | 02:55 |
| BenC | git-checkout -f | 02:55 |
| BenC | see if that helps | 02:55 |
| jes-o-mat | ini get a lot of "unable to read sha1 file of ..." | 02:56 |
| jes-o-mat | maybe the argument "ubuntu-dapper-updates | 02:56 |
| jes-o-mat | " is false | 02:56 |
| jes-o-mat | I just guessed it | 02:56 |
| jes-o-mat | cuase the wiki is only talking about linux-2.6 | 02:57 |
| jes-o-mat | oh | 02:57 |
| jes-o-mat | that's for the local directory :) | 02:57 |
| BenC | jes-o-mat: my guess is that git isn't following the alternative objects to my tree | 02:59 |
| BenC | jes-o-mat: Best bet is to clone my tree, then pull from kyle's | 02:59 |
| kylem | it probably doesn't if you use rsync. | 02:59 |
| kylem | use git:// | 02:59 |
| BenC | jes-o-mat: Telling me about the missing sha1 messages would have been helpful before :) | 03:00 |
| jes-o-mat | BenC, kylem: I'll try using git:// | 03:03 |
| jes-o-mat | BenC: the list was *very* long :) | 03:03 |
| kylem | jes-o-mat, my repository shares objects with ben's so that it doesn't take a long time to mirror. the downside is you need to use a git-aware protocol for fetching it. | 03:04 |
| jes-o-mat | kylem: is the host still rsync.kernel.org? | 03:04 |
| jes-o-mat | or is there some git.k.o host? | 03:05 |
| kylem | it's the same pair of machines either way | 03:05 |
| kylem | a CNAME by any other name would resolve as sweet. | 03:05 |
| tepsipakki | kylem: I see the upload to dapper-proposed as rejected? | 03:06 |
| jes-o-mat | sweet CNAME ... I need to remember that :) | 03:06 |
| kylem | tepsipakki, one of them was rejected, there were two. | 03:06 |
| tepsipakki | kylem: should it be built by now and available on a.u.c? | 03:08 |
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| kylem | tepsipakki, i'd have thought so, i'm new to this whole game though so i'm not really sure what the process is once i upoad. | 03:09 |
| tepsipakki | kylem: I've searched the dapper queues and I can see only the rejected one :) | 03:10 |
| kylem | possibly one of the archive folks needs to be cattle proded. | 03:10 |
| tepsipakki | heh | 03:11 |
| jes-o-mat | *grml* git:// is blocked by firewall | 03:15 |
| Mithrandir | jes-o-mat: ssh -D 1234 wherever, then use tsocks on localhost:1234 | 03:16 |
| Mithrandir | ssh -D is like the best invention since the internet. | 03:17 |
| jes-o-mat | Mithrandir: great! didn't knew the -D flag - I always had used -L or -R | 03:19 |
| kylem | Mithrandir, hah. | 03:19 |
| zul | i thought slice bread was a pretty good invention myself | 03:19 |
| Mithrandir | sliced bread is a _horrible_ invention. | 03:21 |
| zul | i disagree | 03:24 |
| kylem | i hate sliced bread. | 03:27 |
| kylem | i much prefer carving out a quadrant of a nice big loaf of pumpernickle | 03:28 |
| thom | i am lazy. all dutch bread is horrific, so it makes no odds to me | 03:30 |
| jes-o-mat | hrhr | 03:30 |
| Mithrandir | thom: make it yourself and you can have it however you want. | 03:30 |
| thom | Mithrandir: see my leading sentence | 03:31 |
| Mithrandir | thom: bread making machine. | 03:31 |
| Mithrandir | pour ingredients, set timer, wake up to a fresh loaf of bread. | 03:31 |
| thom | had one, hardly ever used it | 03:31 |
| zul | heh if i cook something there is a pretty good chance that it will implode or explode | 03:33 |
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| jes-o-mat | kylem: seem that the changes does not solve #37452 :/ | 04:49 |
| jes-o-mat | everything compiled well but after creating the hw-raid the kernel cannot access sda | 04:50 |
| kylem | well, someone who actually has the hw will have to hunt down the changeset which fixes it. i can't test it. | 04:52 |
| cjwatson | BenC: did /proc/cpuinfo change on i386/amd64 recently (.20) for multiprocessor machines? I see why bug 79109 is happening, but apparently it didn't happen with Herd 1 and the relevant code in base-installer hasn't changed at all | 05:02 |
| BenC | bug #79109 | 05:02 |
| BenC | cjwatson: It's possible, what portion is it using? | 05:03 |
| BenC | cjwatson: diff'ing the cpuinfo from my 2.6.20 coreduo and 2.6.17 core2duo doesn't show anything changing other than values of the cpu itself | 05:05 |
| BenC | I can try a boot into 2.6.20 for the core2duo and see about same cpu changes | 05:06 |
| BenC | cjwatson: The only thing I see different is that in 2.6.20 it recognizes the difference between physical cpu's and cores | 05:14 |
| BenC | so on .17 it would show physical_id={0,1} and core_id=0 for the two, and on .20 it shows physical_id=0 and core_id={0,1} | 05:15 |
| cjwatson | BenC: it's grepping for 'cpu family' lines, and forgot to do head -n1 | 05:15 |
| cjwatson | BenC: if older kernels had only one cpu family line, but current ones have two (which current ones do), then that would explain it | 05:16 |
| BenC | I show two lines in both | 05:17 |
| BenC | so that didn't change | 05:17 |
| BenC | does it use siblings? | 05:17 |
| BenC | or "cpu cores"? | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | FAMILY=`grep '^cpu family' "$CPUINFO" | cut -d: -f2` | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | case "$VENDOR" in | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | " AuthenticAMD"*) | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | case "$FAMILY" in | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | " 6"|" 15") echo k7 ;; | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | just that sort of thing | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | dunno, maybe it was always broken - I was just curious | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | oh, unless vendor_id changed similarly - it greps for that too | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | nothing else, not siblings or cpu cores | 05:20 |
| BenC | still shows GenuineIntel | 05:20 |
| BenC | On i386 and amd64 there shouldn't any of this anyway | 05:21 |
| BenC | it should always install -generic | 05:21 |
| cjwatson | -generic is built for 586, so it's needed for 486 systems | 05:22 |
| cjwatson | most of the code is inherited, but still | 05:22 |
| BenC | true, -386 is the side case | 05:23 |
| cjwatson | on amd64, in practice it makes no difference - it installs -generic regardless | 05:23 |
| cjwatson | it's not vendor_id contents I'm thinking about, but whether it appears once or twice | 05:23 |
| jes-o-mat | kylem: I just digged into the source and the suggested patchset from Cedric Schieli did not made it into your git | 05:23 |
| BenC | it appears twice on .17 and .20 | 05:24 |
| cjwatson | anyhow, I have a fix now | 05:24 |
| cjwatson | ok, thanks | 05:24 |
| BenC | cjwatson: Do you want my cpuinfo's for reference? | 05:24 |
| BenC | cjwatson: emailed, can't hurt to have it | 05:25 |
| cjwatson | sure, thanks | 05:27 |
| cjwatson | BenC: ah, fjp pointed me in the direction of the answer - between Herd 1 and 2, we switched the installer from 386 to generic, and 386 doesn't have SMP alt so the second core didn't show up in cpuinfo | 05:38 |
| kylem | jes-o-mat, which kernel image do you need? | 05:42 |
| jes-o-mat | kylem: -server | 05:43 |
| kylem | amd64 or i386? | 05:43 |
| jes-o-mat | i386 (for now) | 05:44 |
| kylem | alright | 05:45 |
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| BenC | cjwatson: The d-i installer, or the livecd installer? | 05:53 |
| BenC | I thought the installer for the alt CD was going to remain 386 | 05:53 |
| cjwatson | for edgy, it did, but I elected to change that for feisty and just retain the netboot install as 386 | 05:54 |
| cjwatson | I think I mentioned that possibility in mail to you pre-edgy | 05:54 |
| cjwatson | it simplifies the desktop seed rather a lot, because we can just slam linux-headers-generic in there and not worry about which installer is in use | 05:55 |
| BenC | so the bug was always there, it just never showed up because the -386 installer didn't see the extra cpu's? | 05:55 |
| cjwatson | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-December/023036.html | 05:55 |
| cjwatson | right | 05:55 |
| cjwatson | I should probably have CCed you on that mail about the installer change | 05:55 |
| BenC | well, the cpu checking is still pretty moot, because if they boot the live or alt cd's, they don't need -386 anyway | 05:57 |
| BenC | but it certainly can't hurt to have it, since the end result is the same :) | 05:57 |
| cjwatson | that's true, but the same code is used for the netboot installer where it might conceivably matter | 05:58 |
| cjwatson | I realise it's all a tiny corner case - I just prefer fixing mostly-working code over removing it :) | 05:59 |
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| Red_Herring|ugh | yo | 10:30 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | anyone around? | 10:30 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | guess not. | 10:32 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | anyways ill ramble on about my problems | 10:32 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | so i got an edgy amd64 kubuntu install | 10:32 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | and one day | 10:32 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | i boot up | 10:33 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | and get a kernel panic | 10:33 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | the "Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" kind | 10:33 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | so i boot from livecd | 10:33 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | chroot in | 10:33 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | recompile the kernel | 10:33 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | and boot again | 10:33 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | and it complains about missing modules | 10:34 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | so | 10:34 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | im runnin a livecd now | 10:34 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | chrooted into the thing | 10:34 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | and am wondering | 10:35 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | whats the best solution | 10:35 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | i'd really hate to install | 10:35 |
| ivoks | make modules_install ? | 10:35 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | ? | 10:35 |
| ivoks | but this is development channel, not support | 10:35 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | ok | 10:36 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | but can you at least tell me how to diagnose it? | 10:37 |
| Red_Herring|ugh | ... thanks | 10:44 |
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