=== rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] siretart: could you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4085 if you have some time ? It might be interesting for you, motumedia guys :) === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is off to bed [12:17] gn8 everyone [12:17] cya sistpoty === somerville32 waves. === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bronson_ [n=bronson@c-24-5-71-119.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] [12:50] bzr branch imbrandons_brain [12:51] ewww, I don't want to merge that one [12:52] heh === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] LaserJock: scary though === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] ajmitch: when attempting to boot this Xen kernel I get: 'Error 13: Invalid or unsupportable executable format' (for the record) [12:54] google tells me that the kernel image may not be compressed === chillywilly uses file [12:56] much different output with the xen image and one of the stock kernels === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bronson_ [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] ajmitch, have you installed any unmodified domains ( read: windows ) on xen yet ? [01:06] I can't [01:06] hum [01:06] no cpu support for it [01:06] ohh [01:06] cruft [01:06] i might be on ym own then [01:06] my* === ajmitch only has a slow old box, remember [01:06] not one of these fancy new ones [01:07] i figured that am2 had it [01:07] it does [01:07] mine isn't am2 [01:07] ohhh [01:07] man i'm just wrong all arround tonight [01:07] I got my box a few months before am2 was out [01:07] ahh [01:07] mine has it and enabled in the bios [01:08] have fun then [01:08] i'm debating weather to do a fresh xen minimal install and a few domu's [01:09] is it just me or is XFS in Edgy a lot more flaky? [01:09] I had one bad shutdown today on a XFS box and it ended up sending 10,000 files into /lost+found [01:09] fortunately it was a newly imaged system with no items of sentimental value [01:12] sigh [01:13] * Merge from Debian unstable. Ubuntu changes: [01:13] - See 1.5ubuntu1 [01:13] that's *not* how it should be done [01:13] lol [01:13] Who did that? [01:13] I'm not going to point fingers [01:14] since it's someone in here [01:14] lol === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-082-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] wow [01:35] thats special [01:36] ajmitch, did you atleaste poke them in private ( so they are aware ) [01:36] heh === LaserJock goes to check his changelogs ;-) [01:39] no [01:40] it was me!! [01:40] So thats how crimsun does it so fast : [01:40] He cheats :P [01:41] heh [01:41] as if crimsun would === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] hum this is gonna take a while [01:44] cd .. [01:45] hum whats the s bit on rwxrwxrwx ? [01:46] e.g. drwxr-sr-x 6 brandon brandon 160 2007-01-16 18:42 feisty-security [01:46] imbrandon: 0 (0777) [01:47] imbrandon: rewxr-s-r-x is 2777 === Marsmensch [n=daniel@149-203-116-85.dsl.manitu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] hum ok [01:48] i have a feeling this rsync is gonna take a while [01:49] I thought you were on a super-fast connection & all [01:49] yea but even on a superfast connection 110GB is alot [01:49] is this an initial rsync? [01:49] yea [01:50] i was using apt-mirror , now i'm converting to a full rsync [01:50] Are you creating a mirror? [01:50] somerville32, i've had a mirror for quite some time [01:50] imbrandon, Do you have an Xubuntu mirror? [01:50] i have one on ym local lan and i have a public one [01:50] right, I was going to say that it'd cause a large load to do the whole thing by rsync [01:51] these people, always trying to push xubuntu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@205.196.222.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] somerville32, i will after this rsyc finishes [01:51] somerville32: xubuntu is in Main, if he has Main he's got xubuntu [01:51] right [01:51] Oh, you're syncing the repository [01:52] i have edgy feisty currently [01:52] somerville32, yes [01:52] that is the most useful thing to sync [01:52] imbrandon, Did you ever finish setting up the build machines? [01:52] it's not like there's 110GB of cd images [01:52] somerville32, this is the last step [01:52] imbrandon: do you have my ponies? [01:52] crimsun, hehe [01:52] crimsun: sent to the knackers [01:52] gah [01:52] glue ? [01:53] yep [01:53] ouch [01:53] glue & dogfood [01:53] hmm, so I have 3 Ubuntu machines using Edgy and Feisty, and on 2 networks. What's the best way to reduce redundant downloads [01:53] don't dist-upgrade often [01:54] aptoncd :) [01:54] I use apt-proxy, which is adequate [01:54] well, it's usually the pbuilders [01:54] LaserJock, local mirror ;) [01:54] but not great [01:54] if you have 40gb of space you can run a edgy + feisty + source mirror [01:54] with apt-mirror [01:54] for one arch [01:55] I should consider doing that at home [01:55] hmm, that's not bad [01:55] except that I don't have many machines [01:55] and 2 archs [01:55] ajmitch, its about 12gb for each extra arch [01:55] I've only got 1 arch and I'd probably don't need source [01:55] uqm has two packages. uqm-content is under CCA-NC-SA, and uqm is under GPL. uqm depends on uqm-content. Is it safe for the .desktop and menu files in uqm to point to files provided by uqm-content (this will cause a lintian error)? [01:56] the .desktop and menu files point to stuff in -content? [01:57] why isnt the .dsktop in -content then ? [01:57] LaserJock: Not currently, but there is a bug that uqm doesn't appear in the menu, and I'm fixing it. I'd rather use icons, but all the content is under the other license. [01:57] imbrandon: I can put the .desktop there, but the menu file is provided by debian in uqm, and I'd rather not move it. [01:58] persia: but it shouldn't point to the specific icon should it [01:58] hrm [01:58] xen or no xen [01:59] whatever you feel like [01:59] LaserJock: The menu file needs to point to a specific icon. The .desktop file uses a basename, and the icon is selected by the xdg magic. [01:59] hrm can i run a 32bit xen dom0 and a 64bit domU ? [01:59] not afaik [01:59] hrm [02:00] it may be different with hardware virt, who knows? [02:00] true === imbrandon just found a cf to ide reader in his desk drawer [02:01] s/reader/converter [02:02] uptime [02:02] seems like you'd need 64-bit dom0, and hardware virt for 32-bit domU [02:02] err [02:02] 14:01:45 up 9 days, 15:24, 4 users, load average: 0.17, 0.18, 0.11 [02:03] 19:02:42 up 36 days, 9:45, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.10, 0.07 [02:03] yeah, I rebooted it at about 200 days :) [02:03] heh that sucks [02:03] 21:03:37 up 7:52, 3 users, load average: 1.03, 0.97, 0.95 [02:03] we had one at work at 470+ days [02:03] that had to be rebooted like a week ago [02:03] it sucked [02:04] it was just the box with the dsl modem at home [02:04] so nothing big [02:04] lucky I could fix up my RAID problems yesterday on the work server without taking anything down [02:04] ;) [02:05] if i could get the nic1000 working on this mb i would be happy [02:05] then i coudl put a sata raid card in and have more hdd's [02:05] sigh, looks like it's time to plug in this mp3 player [02:05] battery running down again [02:05] as it is the only slot i have free to do it has the pci nic replacement [02:06] s/down/flat/ :) [02:06] i broke my ipod the other day [02:06] no more ipod for brandon , not for a few weeks [02:06] i'm gonna wait to see how these new iphones look [02:06] and possibly get one of those instead of a new ipod [02:07] waste of money [02:07] well $250+ on ipod, $200 on a phone , thats only $50 more dollars for a iphone [02:07] so really about the same price [02:08] plus pda and video stuff [02:08] $200 for a phone?!? [02:09] I only get the free kinda ;-) [02:09] -a [02:10] heh my last one ( about 3 weeks ago ) was about $179 + taxes etc [02:10] ouch [02:13] so you guys that have used xen before, did you build it from source or what? === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] just get it from the repo [02:14] most of the time [02:14] can't boot the kernel === persia proceeds to make an ugly .desktop file pointing at specific icons in -content. [02:14] heh then file a bug ;) [02:14] gives me grub error 13 [02:16] ok, I could do that but that doesn't help with actually getting it to work...I am forced to build it from source now [02:18] you haven't given terribly much info [02:18] build it from source if you wish [02:19] and fwiw grub error 13 normaly is just an error in the grub menu entry [02:19] oh look [02:19] Linux ephraim 2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 #3 SMP Mon Oct 16 06:15:23 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux [02:19] I do have my laptop running xen [02:19] hehe [02:20] x86 xen [02:20] ;) [02:20] I think that's because all the other kernels were failing badly [02:20] sure [02:20] the laptop is old & decrepit [02:20] ahh ;) [02:20] only a pentium M [02:20] thats still nice [02:20] anything above 1ghz is OK to me [02:20] 1GB RAM, enough to run 1 or 2 domUs [02:21] this one is 2GHz [02:21] ;) [02:21] i was on that 2.9 celeron for a LONG time === imbrandon likes his new box === ajmitch has to make do with slow old boxes [02:25] how long does soyuz take to process new uploads nowadays? [02:25] define 'new' [02:25] as in NEW queue or just an normal upload ? [02:25] NEW new or just new new ? ;-) [02:26] not NEW [02:26] heh [02:26] or NEW NEW new [02:26] lol [02:26] just a "until I get some sort of email back" [02:26] depends on the upload i think it does it at 3 and 33 [02:26] aha, I knew it! ;) [02:26] I noticed kxmame had no depends on xmame [02:26] depends on if you stuff up the upload as well [02:26] "I've got a new upstream upstream release that I'd like to get uploaded to NEW new" [02:27] don't confuse the poor chap === Mez cries [02:27] lol [02:27] never mind [02:27] heh [02:27] I got the email [02:28] I thought that with my mail server being stuffed up and now delivering me stuff from november, [02:28] I might have to wait till april [02:28] ok [02:29] & it'll hopefully build & maybe even be published within an hour [02:29] ajmitch, tis cool - just wanted to get an email back to make sure I hadnt stuffed the upload ;) [02:30] immortalised on feisty-changes === Mez growls [02:30] I cant rememebr my mailing list password to re-subscribe [02:30] (aka turn off vacation mode) [02:31] heh [02:31] vacation mode == procmail to /dev/null [02:31] ;) [02:32] ah man, I got screwed on TA assignments [02:32] imbrandon - or nomail on to the mailing list request thing [02:32] hum food , bbiab [02:32] I've got grading/proctoring/ and the stupid computer lab :( [02:33] lucky LaserJock! [02:33] no ubuntu time for you [02:33] and the "request password" doesnt work [02:33] ajmitch: maybe I'll sepnd my computer lab hours building an Edubuntu lab :-) [02:35] heh [02:35] think of the pbuilder cluster I could have :-) [02:35] I think there are ~10 p4s in there === Mez bangs head [02:36] I just found an old welcome email [02:36] and the bloody thing doesnt work [02:36] Mez: have you changed addresses? [02:36] no [02:37] Welcome to the Ubuntu-burning@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list! [02:37] blame the circus midgets [02:37] You must know your password to change your options (including changing [02:37] the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: [02:37] and the password it gives ther e(and in the 5 copies i have of it) [02:37] doesnt work === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] A reminder of your password has been emailed to you. [02:39] no it hasnt1 [02:40] oh well, you'll live, resubscribe [02:40] I need ym p/w to unsubscribe dont it ? [02:40] Mez: No. Just ask to unsubscribe and click the link in an e-mail you get. [02:41] yeah - but abive it says I need it [02:41] abive? [02:42] above [02:42] hmm [02:42] seems fiordland is avoiding me [02:42] Ah.. I'm a bit slow right now. :-) [02:42] I'm having trouble with mailman these days, too. [02:42] ubuntu mailman / [02:43] Yes. [02:43] ah kk [02:43] complain to canonical people [02:43] It's discarding my mail to a particular list. [02:44] it seems that mail isnt getting to fiordland. [02:44] as it's sending it fine from gmail to my ubuntu accounty === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] Heya gang [02:53] heya [02:53] Hi imbrandon [02:55] hm [02:55] hmm === bddebian hugs ajmitch [02:56] re [02:57] wb Toadstool [02:57] hey bddebian [02:57] yeah.. [02:58] great... received my plane ticket for September... I don't want to go back to France :/ === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-195.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] because they speak french? [02:59] heh [02:59] nope, because i love California :) [02:59] Ugh [03:01] i rather be in france then california [03:01] that's because you're not french [03:02] i'd rather be in spain than anywhere ;) [03:02] yeah but my father speaks french [03:02] yay! barcelona :) [03:02] Well I'd pick California over France but Cali still sucks :-) [03:02] argh [03:02] i wanna go to live in canada [03:03] Canukistan? Why? :) [03:03] canada ? people live there? [03:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Island <--i wanna go there [03:04] Amaranth: there is a lot of snow on vancouver island this year [03:04] really? [03:04] yeah el nino [03:04] oh [03:04] NZ > * [03:04] well it was 70F here right before the end of the year [03:04] so i guess i can see that [03:04] El Nino? hah, I thought Global Warming was causing everything? :) [03:05] lol [03:05] heh its suppose to get -24C tonight [03:05] ajmitch: well my next trip will most probably be to NZ and/or Australia [03:05] jesus [03:05] bddebian: you can blame everything on either el nino or global warming [03:05] zul: here too [03:05] Amaranth: Bah, I just blame ajmitch :-) [03:05] it's never got down that cold in NZ [03:06] bddebian: that's ok, give me more excuses [03:06] current temp is -14C [03:06] windchill is -22C [03:06] and it's only 8p [03:06] ajmitch: excuses for what man? [03:06] bddebian: whatever I feel like doing [03:06] ajmitch: Ah ;) === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] zul: my cold weather scared you away? :) [03:07] bddebian: I've still got a list of things to harass you about [03:07] haha [03:07] er...yeah === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] ajmitch: Uh oh, what'd I do now? [03:07] breaking stuff [03:08] Now what did I break? [03:08] sponsoring stuff that should have been looked at first, too [03:08] Are you going to be more specific? [03:08] maybe [03:12] My keyboard doesn't work in yet a different way today. Anyone have any pointers to where I should add the definition for this keyboard to prevent this recurring? (it's Logitech jp106). [03:12] yeah #ubuntu [03:14] zul: Noone has ever had an answer to that question there in the past two years. Oh well, I'll go play with keytouch and xkb, and see if I can find it. [03:16] ajmitch: Well? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian stops doing anything until ajmitch explains himself [03:26] yay === chillywilly has xen running on this laptop [03:31] bbiab, time for a clean install === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GreenD [n=gd@adsl-69-149-49-88.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] Hey [03:42] Anyone willing to lend me a hand creating a package right quick? [03:44] GreenD: how far did you get? :) [03:44] Haha, not too far right now. Want a run down of what I'm trying to do? [03:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation has lots of ideas from the basics upwards [03:45] basically, (if it's not already packaged in Debian), we grab the source as a tarball [03:46] unpackage it, add a 'debian/' directory containing several special files (debian/control, debian/rules) [03:46] Well, basically I just want help to where it will install from source on ubuntu, then I'll deb it. :) [03:47] 'rules' is normally an executable make file that would then call 'make' and put binaries in the right place [03:47] tepsipakki: Please PM me if you need to contact me, that way I can be sure I get your message even when I am online. Thanks. [03:47] Eh, let me explain my problems so far... [03:47] 'control' lists information such as the package name, version, who uploaded it. [03:49] I'm wanting to make a debian package for scatterchat for Hacktivismo, but whenever I try to configure from source its not liking my GTK version even though its up to date. (What do I do there?) Theres too much stuff that overrides gaim, should I make everything separate and how? Mind you Scatterchat may be based off of gaim but it is not just a plugin. [03:49] Joseph Salvatore isn't able to give me much help on it because he did this on Fedora, so I came here. [03:53] Any ideas? [03:54] Also, scatterchat comes in two pieces. The main piece (Like gaim.) and the scatterchat module, can we make those two into one package? === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] hmmm, something's wrong with my ubuntu... by using firefox for surfing the cpu frequency steps up to max, and i can't work with other applications ... since 1 or 2 month i think [03:57] Change the nice values for it then. [03:57] Might help. [03:59] ok i try :) thx === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] No problem man, hope it works. Sometimes certain 'flashy' things I might have running in or as part of firefox make my pent 4 schiz out. === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] Well, this is gay. I'm out. === GreenD [n=gd@adsl-69-149-49-88.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.241.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] Any MOTUs available? I have an updstream update to which I've added additional documentation (including man pages)? bddebian? [04:32] ScottK, sup ? [04:33] ScottK, simple 2 questions [04:33] 1) what package [04:33] 2) is it in REVU [04:33] ScottK: Sorry, I'm not supposed to work on stuff [04:34] OK. No problem. [04:34] Mez - Sorry - bran dump. It's in REVU - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4086 [04:34] bddebian, what have you done now / [04:34] bran/brain - can't type either tonight.. [04:35] Heya Mez. Dunno, ajmitch won't tell me [04:35] lol [04:35] was it that currant bun you left lying on the buildd the other day ? [04:35] currant bun? [04:35] nvm [04:35] ScottK, couple of things i've noticed straight off [04:36] 1) pyspf source: newer-standards-version 3.7.2 [04:36] oh, nvm [04:36] i read that wrong [04:37] and what the hell [04:38] where did that lintian error come from [04:38] Dunnu. I always see that when I look at lintian on REVU, but not when I run it locally. [04:39] that one is fine [04:39] revu needs updating [04:39] but the [04:39] W: pyspf source: build-depends-without-arch-dep [04:39] is very confusing [04:39] Hmmm. I didn't get that one when I built it here. [04:40] I guess it's just a glitch on REVU [04:40] I suspect that may be a function of revu not being updated for the new python policy. That's unchanged from the previous upate I got approved. [04:40] probably not worht adding a lintian override for it [04:41] siretart, can you update revu ? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK goes to update another package and fix a packaging bug. === _jaldhar_ is now known as jaldhar [05:29] there's no pygrub in edgy? [05:30] thats a PITA [05:33] how else can I boot this domU then? I was just following some instructions on a wiki === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === daya [n=daya@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK waits on REVU... [05:49] persia: got a sec for bug 79498 [05:49] Malone bug 79498 in libjsw "new upstream version 1.5.6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79498 === ScottK rebuilds the package again... [05:52] oh my gosh, that xchat crash bug is insane [05:56] OK. I think it's good now. I fixed Debian bug #306875 by implementing the patch supplied with the bug. I'd appreciate a revu: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4088 and 4086 is waiting too if anyone is feeling ambitious... [05:56] Debian bug 306875 in spfquery "spfquery: conflict with libmail-spf-query-perl (spamassassin)" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/306875 [05:57] ScottK: that's a bug fix? [05:58] LaserJock: Sure. What about it? [05:58] Yes. [05:59] Updated the package to support the alternative implementations of spfquery. The other two in the archives already support it. This was the last one left. [05:59] persia: there's a lot going on there [06:00] Not that I added. [06:00] LaserJock: Yes, indeed. libjsw doesn't get a lot of maintenance in Debian :( [06:00] ScottK: usually bugs are done as a debdiff attached to a bug report [06:00] Oh. [06:00] ScottK: cf bug 60290 [06:00] Malone bug 60290 in battleball "shows only on debian menu, not games menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60290 [06:00] I thought that got a bug reported. I was trying to go straight to fixed. [06:01] So I should take the debdiff from this and attach it to a new bug referencing the Debian bug? [06:01] I did fix one small lintian warning that's not part of the bug (added Section to the control file)? [06:02] bah [06:12] LaserJock: I've reported bug #79683. Is that right? [06:12] Malone bug 79683 in libspf2 "spfquery: conflict with libmail-spf-query-perl Debian bug#306875" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79683 [06:15] ScottK: why did you change libspf2-1.2.5/src/libspf2/spf_lib_version.h > [06:15] s/>/?/ [06:15] I didn't. [06:15] I didn't even open the file. [06:15] ScottK: generally you provide a little more descriptive description for the bug, but yeah [06:15]