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| PriceChild | lol I like ompaul's quit message :) | 12:51 |
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| Mez | PriceChild, very... surreal | 01:37 |
| tonyyarusso | #ubuntu+1 needs a /topicsed s/dont/don't/ and s/cant/can't/ if someone has a moment. | 01:46 |
| === PriceChild would if he had ops ;) | ||
| tonyyarusso | same here | 01:48 |
| === PriceChild has ops in -xgl woot :D | ||
| PriceChild | but that's not +! :( | 01:48 |
| PriceChild | ping apokryphos- | 01:49 |
| LjL | here | 01:58 |
| PriceChild | go super LjL ! | 02:00 |
| LjL | ta-da | 02:00 |
| Mez | -ChanServ- An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #ubuntu+1 | 02:07 |
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| LjL | Seveas: it seems that i can't use "Add Comment" in the bantracker anymore, neither in konqueror nor in firefox. the other links appear to work | 02:42 |
| Mez | LjL, report a bug | 02:44 |
| LjL | *yawn* not right now | 02:45 |
| Mez | that was the answer last time someone mentioned it | 02:45 |
| LjL | uhm, /me wonders whether that's intentional :P | 02:46 |
| LjL | anyway the bugreport is for tomorrow, now is for sleep - night | 02:46 |
| Mez | nug 79478 | 02:47 |
| Mez | bnug 79478 | 02:47 |
| Mez | bug 79478 | 02:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79478 in ubuntu-bots "Bantracker commenting broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79478 | 02:47 |
| PriceChild | 3rd time lucky Mez :) | 02:48 |
| Mez | PriceChild, I cant type today | 02:48 |
| Mez | or any other day ... | 02:49 |
| Mez | except when I'm drunk | 02:49 |
| PriceChild | hehe | 02:49 |
| === tonyyarusso filed that just what, yesterday? | ||
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| tonyyarusso | !-software-#kubuntu | 03:36 |
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| bigfuzzyjesus | when will my ban be lifted | 04:03 |
| bigfuzzyjesus | it has been 2 months | 04:03 |
| tonyyarusso | Weren't you told to stop asking so often last week? | 04:05 |
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| bigfuzzyjesus | tonyyarusso, no last night i was told not to ask last night because you were having a bot attack | 04:12 |
| tonyyarusso | bigfuzzyjesus: Not by me, someone else I mean | 04:13 |
| tonyyarusso | Anyway, you'll probably need to find the op who issued the ban to ask where they're at with it. | 04:14 |
| === Mez just subscribed to 37 mailing lists as his server has been bouncing mails | ||
| tonyyarusso | "sorry!"? How would that be unintentional... | 04:30 |
| Mez | maybe he wanted it to be 1s ? | 04:32 |
| tonyyarusso | heh | 04:33 |
| joejaxx | if someone has the host gateway/to/x-blahblah | 04:46 |
| joejaxx | what does that mean | 04:46 |
| joejaxx | gateway/tor/* | 04:47 |
| tonyyarusso | !tor | 04:48 |
| ubotu | The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. | 04:48 |
| joejaxx | were they granted access to use tor on freenode? | 04:48 |
| ubotu | Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | 04:48 |
| joejaxx | tonyyarusso: i know | 04:48 |
| tonyyarusso | joejaxx: Sorry, I thought that had a better link | 04:48 |
| joejaxx | but i am asking from an op point of view | 04:48 |
| joejaxx | oh ok | 04:48 |
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| joejaxx | because someone is spaming and they have that host | 04:48 |
| === Mez has had a though | ||
| tonyyarusso | joejaxx: That would be your definitive answer there :) | 04:49 |
| Mez | t | 04:49 |
| tonyyarusso | Hi nalioth ! | 04:49 |
| nalioth | hi y'all | 04:49 |
| Mez | nalioth, you're a good person to talk to about this | 04:49 |
| Mez | regarding the tor ban | 04:49 |
| === nalioth didn't do it. He's been moving | ||
| Mez | someone I was talking to earlier in #freenode-social was talking about the way they regulate tor users | 04:50 |
| Mez | which is that tor users can join the channel, but are muted | 04:50 |
| joejaxx | interesting concept | 04:50 |
| Mez | and have to request an operator to put an exempt on their mute | 04:50 |
| Mez | to unmute them | 04:50 |
| nalioth | Mez: they regulate ALL users with a moderated channel | 04:50 |
| Mez | nalioth, ? | 04:50 |
| Mez | nalioth, oh, no - someone in #freenode-social was talking about another channel, and how they dealty with tor users in that other channel | 04:51 |
| nalioth | Mez: everyone that joins #freenode-social that does not have an exempt cloak is muted until voiced | 04:51 |
| Mez | #freenode-social was just where the conversation took place | 04:51 |
| nalioth | Mez: we tried to mute just tor users but some fool thought join/part spam was funny | 04:51 |
| nalioth | Mez: now there is gpg-tor for the moral users of tor to use | 04:52 |
| Mez | nalioth: surely join limitiing can be used? | 04:52 |
| Mez | and surely theres a revolving door protection somewhere | 04:52 |
| nalioth | Mez: join throttling is off limits in #ubuntu | 04:53 |
| nalioth | per seveas | 04:53 |
| joejaxx | nalioth: does a gateway/tor/x-* host mean they are connected via gpg-tor? | 04:53 |
| nalioth | no, joejaxx | 04:53 |
| joejaxx | oh ok | 04:54 |
| nalioth | /gateway/gpg-tor/user/blah is gpg-tor | 04:54 |
| joejaxx | ah ok | 04:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Aaah. *!*@ubuntu/*, so that's why I'm auto-voiced in #freenode-social now :) | 04:55 |
| Mez | tonyyarusso, indeed | 04:55 |
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| Mez | @lart mneptok | 06:32 |
| === Ubugtu slaps mneptok with a soggy sock | ||
| PuMpErNiCkLe | @t | 06:33 |
| tonyyarusso | @lart Jucato | 06:34 |
| === Ubugtu sets Jucato's keyboard layout to gaelic | ||
| Jucato | :O | 06:34 |
| mneptok | @fart Mez | 06:35 |
| Jucato | fart?!? lol | 06:35 |
| mneptok | yeah, you *wish* it was a typo, but i had the chili for lunch. | 06:37 |
| Jucato | lol | 06:38 |
| Mez | Jucato, did you not know I was an op in there? | 06:43 |
| Jucato | I know | 06:43 |
| Jucato | I just didn't anticipate you'd deop me lol | 06:43 |
| Mez | Jucato, you just seemed surprised at the deop | 06:43 |
| Mez | lol | 06:43 |
| Mez | It should protect me from being kicked anyways | 06:44 |
| Jucato | I'm not that cruel :P | 06:44 |
| Mez | Chanserv no longer accepts REMOVE ? | 06:49 |
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| Jucato | er... | 06:50 |
| Mez | and that was in the wrong channel | 06:51 |
| Mez | lol | 06:51 |
| tonyyarusso | Mez: What? | 06:51 |
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| === Jucato sobs again | ||
| === Mez gives Jucato his spear back | ||
| === tonyyarusso passes the Prozac | ||
| === Mez gets thwacked by Jucato's spear | ||
| tonyyarusso | Have you heard the song about Magellan from Animaniacs? | 06:52 |
| Jucato | I'm not yet adept at my op skills... so if I'm supposed to be doing something to protect myself... :P | 06:52 |
| tonyyarusso | Megellan said "Hup?" and got hit by a spear! | 06:52 |
| Mez | Jucato, I think chanserv.py protects you | 06:52 |
| === Jucato looks it up | ||
| Mez | !chanserv.py | 06:53 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about chanserv.py - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:53 |
| Mez | !chanserv.py is http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/Software/chanserv.py | 06:53 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, Mez | 06:53 |
| Jucato | bah nvm... the only 2 people who love kicking me are Hobbsee and Mez anyway :) | 06:53 |
| Mez | <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 06:55 |
| Mez | !chanserv.py | 06:55 |
| ubotu | chanserv.py is http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/Software/chanserv.py | 06:55 |
| Jucato | lol | 06:56 |
| Mez | Jucato, it's a good little script ;) | 06:56 |
| Mez | does a lot of nice things | 06:56 |
| Jucato | :) | 06:57 |
| Mez | (I believe it also tries and unbans you from channels if you're banned from them and stuff) | 06:58 |
| Mez | now all I need is a ping collector | 06:58 |
| tonyyarusso | ping collector? | 06:58 |
| === Jucato gives all his pings to Mez | ||
| Mez | ping collector | 06:58 |
| Mez | so if someone pings me - it logs it in a special window | 06:58 |
| Mez | so I can come back and respond to people who have pinged me outside of my buffer | 06:59 |
| Mez | without having to go and grep logs | 06:59 |
| tonyyarusso | irssi does that by default | 07:00 |
| Mez | tonyyarusso, really ? | 07:00 |
| Jucato | yep it does | 07:00 |
| tonyyarusso | Mez: Yeah, when you come back from away it lists them in the server window | 07:03 |
| Mez | schwing | 07:03 |
| Jucato | another reason to use irssi :) | 07:03 |
| Mez | but irssi... | 07:04 |
| Mez | you have to remember window numbers and stuff like that | 07:04 |
| Mez | it's a PITA | 07:04 |
| tonyyarusso | pssh | 07:04 |
| tonyyarusso | Like that's hard | 07:05 |
| Mez | tonyyarusso, I'm on... 43 channels in total | 07:05 |
| Jucato | O.O | 07:05 |
| tonyyarusso | Mez: Whiner | 07:05 |
| Mez | tonyyarusso, you try remembering that ;) | 07:05 |
| tonyyarusso | Oooh the gap is closing | 07:06 |
| === tonyyarusso can almost feel #9 | ||
| tonyyarusso | Bring it on! | 07:06 |
| === tonyyarusso proves Mez's point | ||
| Mez | tonyyarusso, :P | 07:07 |
| Mez | w00t | 07:08 |
| Mez | a decent debian sponsor | 07:08 |
| tonyyarusso | Who/ | 07:08 |
| tonyyarusso | ? | 07:08 |
| Mez | Nelson A. de Oliveira | 07:09 |
| === tonyyarusso doesn't know | ||
| Mez | he's doing my rar/unrar uploads | 07:10 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-ops: Welcome to the home of the operators of all Ubuntu (and derivatives) channels | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | ||
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| Pez | is DBO awake? | 12:33 |
| mneptok | albany, ny? | 12:33 |
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| === Hobbsee waves bye! | ||
| mneptok | *sssssssss* | 12:38 |
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| chrisbradley | hello rob | 03:52 |
| === chrisbradley looks to apokryphos / DBO | ||
| apokryphos- | chrisbradley: hi | 04:34 |
| chrisbradley | hello | 04:35 |
| apokryphos | what can I help you with? | 04:35 |
| chrisbradley | I have a project I am working on | 04:35 |
| chrisbradley | http://hollywood.noisecontrolmedia.com/gelwiki/index.php/Gel_Storm | 04:35 |
| chrisbradley | It is a seed of an idea | 04:35 |
| chrisbradley | I would like to know if ubuntu would like to participate | 04:36 |
| apokryphos | why are you mentioning this here? Please read the channel topic. | 04:36 |
| Mez | mwuahahahaa | 04:37 |
| === Mez adds larting commands to his nostromo | ||
| Mez | just lean, select a username and BAM | 04:37 |
| Mez | they get cs larted | 04:37 |
| apokryphos | @lart mez | 04:38 |
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| apokryphos | chrisbradley: #ubuntu-offtopic exists for general talk, however. | 04:38 |
| Mez | @tpo rala | 04:39 |
| chrisbradley | I am actually looking for a press contact or e-mail address | 04:39 |
| apokryphos | chrisbradley: ubuntu.com -> Search: press contact | 04:40 |
| Mez | @lart apokryphos | 04:40 |
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| Mez | haha | 04:40 |
| Mez | my script is set to lart you | 04:40 |
| apokryphos | :O | 04:40 |
| Mez | when i hit button 15 on my game pad | 04:40 |
| apokryphos | haha | 04:40 |
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| Mez | and now | 04:41 |
| Mez | It works as the left hand side of my keyboard | 04:41 |
| Mez | saddddwwwwwwwwdasdddawdaasdddasdasd | 04:42 |
| Mez | AaAaA | 04:42 |
| Mez | SAD | 04:42 |
| apokryphos | =) | 04:42 |
| Mez | lol | 04:43 |
| Mez | srry | 04:43 |
| Mez | sad I know | 04:43 |
| Mez | but it's great for UT | 04:43 |
| === Mez should make a script so I can select someones name in the user list | ||
| Mez | hit a button on the nostromo | 04:44 |
| Mez | and it bans them proper good | 04:44 |
| apokryphos | ;-) | 04:44 |
| Mez | sweet | 04:44 |
| Mez | I can technically | 04:44 |
| tonyyarusso | apokryphos: did you use irssi? | 04:47 |
| apokryphos | I've used it before | 04:47 |
| tonyyarusso | but not normally | 04:47 |
| tonyyarusso | 'k | 04:47 |
| === tonyyarusso is looking for people to get excited over his script addition with | ||
| apokryphos | what does it do? | 04:49 |
| tonyyarusso | Adds people I kick (and other things) to my hilight list by nickmask so I can keep an eye on them for a few days easily. | 04:50 |
| apokryphos | would be good for quite a few cases I guess, yeah | 04:50 |
| tonyyarusso | of course you can choose what to apply it to, so you could have it just on timed mutes or smth | 04:51 |
| === Mez has just added an "uber menu" | ||
| === Mez finds that larting himself doesnt helo | ||
| Mez | help | 04:53 |
| apokryphos | tonyyarusso: yes, I should have timed-bans implemented too | 04:56 |
| apokryphos | problem is I'm not on IRC *all* the time, so it wouldn't work perfectly | 04:56 |
| tonyyarusso | same here | 04:56 |
| Mez | apokryphos, code it into ubot | 04:57 |
| apokryphos | Mez: it would require a little more hassle though, because we'd have to tell the bot how long we want the bans to be | 04:57 |
| Mez | true | 05:03 |
| apokryphos | still, we could have a default of 24 hours | 05:03 |
| apokryphos | though I don't think how long we keep our bans is such an issue | 05:04 |
| apokryphos | since we clear out the ban-list every so often, and most people know about the appeal process | 05:04 |
| Mez | what - bitch in here? | 05:05 |
| apokryphos | yup | 05:05 |
| apokryphos | we investigate the ban easily enough with the bantracker | 05:05 |
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| joejaxx | man i REALLY wish freenode whould enable kill protection | 06:53 |
| somerville32 | kill protection? | 06:58 |
| TheSheep | like in italian mafia? %) | 06:59 |
| Hawkwind | They do have it. If the nick is registered, then kill it with the ghost command. Doesn't get any easier than that | 07:00 |
| Hawkwind | If the nick isn't registered, then anyone rightfully has a right to use it | 07:01 |
| joejaxx | Hawkwind: no as in | 07:13 |
| joejaxx | if someone is nicksitting on my nicks | 07:13 |
| joejaxx | they should be autokill'd after not identifying | 07:14 |
| joejaxx | after a certain time period | 07:14 |
| joejaxx | or force nick changed to another nick | 07:14 |
| Hawkwind | Again, register the nick and you can handle that. It's the whole entire reason for registering nicks you want | 07:15 |
| Hawkwind | That feature is on several networks, and IMO is pointless if you register a nick you like/want | 07:15 |
| Mez | er | 07:18 |
| Mez | Hawkwind, | 07:18 |
| Mez | /msg nickserv set kill on | 07:18 |
| Mez | sorry | 07:18 |
| Mez | joejaxx, the above | 07:18 |
| joejaxx | nope | 07:18 |
| joejaxx | it is disabled on freenode | 07:18 |
| joejaxx | Hawkwind: it is registered | 07:19 |
| Mez | ah | 07:19 |
| Hawkwind | joejaxx: Then kill the nick, it's that simple | 07:19 |
| joejaxx | and it is quite an annoyance | 07:19 |
| PriceChild | There is a functino for that on freenode | 07:19 |
| joejaxx | Hawkwind: try ghost killing/recovering a nick 10 times in a row and you will understand | 07:19 |
| Hawkwind | joejaxx: Not sure what complaining about it does, when you have the ability to get rid of the person that's got the nick | 07:19 |
| PriceChild | where you only get a minute to register before being killed | 07:19 |
| PriceChild | I read the help for it yday | 07:19 |
| === PriceChild finsd it | ||
| PriceChild | /ns help set | 07:20 |
| Hawkwind | joejaxx: What's the point of killing it if you aren't going to use the nick ? | 07:20 |
| joejaxx | i am using the nick | 07:20 |
| Hawkwind | Then someone else can't possibly be using it | 07:20 |
| joejaxx | nevermind you do not understand | 07:20 |
| Mez | joejaxx, explain | 07:20 |
| joejaxx | PriceChild: they have that service disabled | 07:20 |
| Hawkwind | No I don't, because you're making no sense at all | 07:20 |
| Hawkwind | If you're using it, then noone else can. If they are using it, kill it, and be done | 07:20 |
| PriceChild | hmmm ok if you say so | 07:21 |
| PriceChild | what about setting secure on? | 07:21 |
| joejaxx | 00:54 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Kill Protection is disabled on this network | 07:21 |
| Hawkwind | If it's that bothersome, use a bot or another client to hold the nick for you. But it seems the nick is just there to take up space and to keep others from having it IMO | 07:21 |
| joejaxx | ok | 07:22 |
| joejaxx | this is the problem | 07:22 |
| joejaxx | i do have a bot on it | 07:22 |
| joejaxx | and when it disconnects | 07:22 |
| joejaxx | there are users who jump on my nicks | 07:22 |
| Hawkwind | So set the bot to use the ghost command if $nick is taken, and then again, you're done with it | 07:22 |
| joejaxx | Hawkwind: it is not that easy | 07:23 |
| Mez | joejaxx, why not ? | 07:23 |
| Hawkwind | joejaxx: So what if they do. When you're online, kill it and take it back. Not sure I see the big problem of having a nick in use | 07:23 |
| Hawkwind | joejaxx: How is it not that easy ? It's actually dead simple | 07:23 |
| joejaxx | yeah you are right you do not | 07:23 |
| Hawkwind | joejaxx: I don't, simply because if it's *my* nick, I can use a simple ghost command and get the nick back. | 07:24 |
| Hawkwind | It's not difficult to perform actually. Nor is it difficult to have a bot do the same thing | 07:24 |
| Mez | joejaxx, why cant you get the bot to ghost the nick when it connects if it cant get its usual nick ? | 07:24 |
| joejaxx | nevermind | 07:25 |
| joejaxx | Mez: i can | 07:25 |
| joejaxx | the problem is not on my end | 07:25 |
| Mez | then what is it ? | 07:25 |
| joejaxx | it is hard to understand unless you are in my situation | 07:25 |
| Mez | joejaxx, then EXPLAIN | 07:26 |
| joejaxx | i rather not | 07:26 |
| joejaxx | everyone just jumps to conclusions :) | 07:26 |
| joejaxx | bbl i have dev to do | 07:26 |
| Mez | joejaxx, not if you EXPLAIN | 07:26 |
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| joejaxx | i tried it did not work | 07:27 |
| Mez | on connect { if nick!=propernick{ msg("nickserv", "ghost nick password"); nick "propernick" } | 07:28 |
| Hawkwind | Yeah, they don't understand because the person that *seems* to know doesn't explain. | 07:28 |
| Hawkwind | Though honestly, I don't see any possible explanation that would state anything different than using the ghost command to get the nick, or having a bot do it. Hard to fathom there is more to it than that | 07:29 |
| joejaxx | lol | 07:29 |
| joejaxx | your responses are the exact conclusions i am talking about | 07:29 |
| joejaxx | i know how to program a bot | 07:29 |
| LjL | you said you'd have to use GHOST x times in a row. why? | 07:29 |
| Hawkwind | I've seen you talk/complain about this for months now actually, and still fail to see where you've tried to accomplish the task at hand | 07:29 |
| joejaxx | LjL: because | 07:30 |
| joejaxx | the persion kept reconnecting | 07:30 |
| Hawkwind | joejaxx: Then do it and get it over with. Then you don't have to worry about someone else sitting on a nick | 07:30 |
| joejaxx | and taking the nick | 07:30 |
| joejaxx | LjL: thank you for asking | 07:30 |
| Hawkwind | People can't *sit* on nicks if they are registered, impossible | 07:30 |
| Mez | joejaxx, but surely they cant reconnect in the time it takes you to change nick ? | 07:30 |
| Hawkwind | I wouldn't think so either | 07:30 |
| Mez | it takes at least 3 seconds to rejoin the server | 07:30 |
| Mez | watch | 07:30 |
| joejaxx | LjL: this guy is from cisco | 07:30 |
| Hawkwind | People sit on nicks in places like Efnet | 07:31 |
| joejaxx | LjL: i tried talking to him | 07:31 |
| LjL | joejaxx: uhm, wait a second, why doesn't your bot just take the nick *itself*, after having used GHOST? | 07:31 |
| joejaxx | LjL: it tries | 07:31 |
| joejaxx | and fails | 07:31 |
| LjL | joejaxx: why? is the guy faster? | 07:31 |
| joejaxx | because the guy comes back online | 07:31 |
| Mez | joejaxx, so? they still need to connect throguh the server which does certain processing | 07:31 |
| joejaxx | LjL: yeap | 07:31 |
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| Hawkwind | joejaxx: He can't come back quicker than it takes you to type /nick somenick or quicker than a bot doing it automatically | 07:31 |
| LjL | joejaxx: how can the guy *reconnect* faster to the *server* than you can issue a NICK command...? | 07:31 |
| joejaxx | LjL: trust me i know how to use ghost and recover | 07:31 |
| LjL | joejaxx: i think it takes at least a second or two to connect to a freenode server normally.. | 07:32 |
| mez_ | tada | 07:32 |
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| Hawkwind | mez_: +1 | 07:32 |
| joejaxx | LjL: i have the bot to do it | 07:32 |
| Hawkwind | If the bot isn't changing nicks quick enough, then it's code error | 07:32 |
| Hawkwind | There are also scripts for nearly every IRC client to take a nick once it disconnects. Some clients have such thing built in by default | 07:33 |
| Mez | joejaxx, what type of bot is it ? | 07:34 |
| LjL | joejaxx: what do you mean you have the bot to do it? | 07:34 |
| LjL | joejaxx: i just can't understand how this guy can be so fast to reconnect. even if he's got a monster connection and whatnot, it should still take 1 second at least to connect, while it should take practically nihil to issue a NICK command... | 07:36 |
| Hawkwind | When the disconnect happens, the nick should happen instantaneously. If not, then there is something wrong with the bots code that's preventing it from happening | 07:38 |
| Hawkwind | You have approximately 3 - 4 seconds between a disconnect and a reconnect. More than enough time to change nicks, possibly 2 - 3 times if it's automated in a script | 07:38 |
| LjL | well, it can't really happen "instantaneously", there is a roud-trip time you have to deal with... still, it should be pretty darn fast, compared to a reconnect | 07:38 |
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| LjL | now, *my* reconnects are particularly slow, since i don't have an identd, and the server sits waiting for one... but still, even someone who does have identd running should take a little | 07:40 |
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| LjL | joejaxx: also, what happens if you use RECOVER? do they still change nicks immediately as soon as you do RELEASE? if so, it means they're issuing NICK commands like crazy | 07:41 |
| LjL | that should flood them out of the network, among other things | 07:41 |
| Hawkwind | Also, if the nick is truly registered and this is happening, surely speaking to a staff member could prove handy. Maybe they could block his IP/host from using said nick | 07:43 |
| LjL | Hawkwind: if they're reconnecting like crazy to be faster than him (and somehow manage to), i'd call that a DoS attack against freenode | 07:45 |
| LjL | and i suppose the staff would get the concerned address out of the network | 07:45 |
| Hawkwind | We can all bet that's not happening though. That's pretty overboard, and if it was, like you said, he wouldn't be having this issue then | 07:47 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, jrib said: motu is also To request packages visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates | 07:57 |
| LjL | that page is linked to in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU (which is what the bot currently gives)... it's in a bit of an obscure place, but perhaps we'd best leave it so? ;) | 08:00 |
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| ArrenLex | Would it be possible to make packages show up with a custom name also? Like !mozilla-thunderbird|bob would show bob: mozilla-thunderbird: an email client ... whatever. It would be very convenient if someone comes asking where to find a program. | 08:12 |
| jenda | !bots| ArrenLex | 08:13 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 08:13 |
| jenda | meh | 08:13 |
| jenda | !ubuntulog | ArrenLex | 08:13 |
| ubotu | ArrenLex: ubuntulog is a logging bot run on various Ubuntu channels. You can read the logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | 08:13 |
| ArrenLex | !xserver-xorg | jenda | 08:13 |
| ubotu | xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB | 08:13 |
| jenda | hmm | 08:13 |
| jenda | that warrants a prod of the boss :) | 08:13 |
| jenda | (((>>> Seveas <<<))) | 08:14 |
| LjL | he knows... | 08:14 |
| LjL | i never found it a bit problem however, the user *is* highlighted after all | 08:14 |
| LjL | s/bit/big/ | 08:14 |
| Seveas | ? | 08:14 |
| PriceChild | do you mean alias? | 08:14 |
| Hawkwind | They are ? | 08:14 |
| Hawkwind | !xchat | 08:14 |
| ubotu | xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB | 08:14 |
| Seveas | jenda, 'sup? | 08:14 |
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| Seveas | !xchat | Hawkwind | 08:15 |
| LjL | PriceChild: me means using the | syntax with package names | 08:15 |
| Seveas | meh | 08:15 |
| LjL | Seveas: you broke it | 08:15 |
| Seveas | !ubuntu-desktop | Hawkwind | 08:15 |
| ubotu | Hawkwind: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading. | 08:15 |
| ArrenLex | It becomes a problem for suers who don't know that ! calls the bot and don't know to look for something addressed to them. According to what you're saying, the | username syntax need never be used at all, since the user is highlighted. Yet obviously it's very useful. | 08:15 |
| Seveas | !totem | Hawkwind | 08:15 |
| ubotu | Hawkwind: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs | 08:15 |
| Seveas | narf! | 08:15 |
| Seveas | !w32codecs | Hawkwind | 08:15 |
| ubotu | Hawkwind: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information | 08:15 |
| Seveas | argh | 08:15 |
| Hawkwind | LOL | 08:15 |
| Seveas | !xmoto | Hawkwind | 08:16 |
| ubotu | xmoto: 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 1956 kB | 08:16 |
| Seveas | hmm | 08:16 |
| LjL | ArrenLex: wrong - if there was no | syntax at all (like it used to be), adding " | username" after a factoid would make the bot say there is no such factoid | 08:16 |
| Seveas | that's broken! | 08:16 |
| Hawkwind | There we go | 08:16 |
| LjL | so you couldn't highlight people at all | 08:16 |
| LjL | Seveas: been like this since "|" was added :P | 08:16 |
| Seveas | hmm | 08:16 |
| Seveas | file it as a bug | 08:16 |
| Hawkwind | The bot should still say the users nick at the beginning IMO | 08:16 |
| jenda | universal answer :) | 08:16 |
| ArrenLex | LjL: No, I mean, if adding | username to a factoid made ubotu display just the factoid, it would be less useful than the current system. The same thing for packages; adding | username to a package description is useful for the same reason that it is in normal factoids. | 08:17 |
| LjL | Seveas: i suggest you change the ":" into something else though, it's ugly to see two colons in a row :P | 08:17 |
| Seveas | LjL, true | 08:17 |
| LjL | ArrenLex: sure, i never said it was useless, i said i didn't find it a big problem | 08:17 |
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| ubotu | In #ubuntuforums, lotusleaf said: ubotu: !scoobysnack is !botsnack | 09:33 |
| somerville32 | !scoobysnack is <reply> Yuck! | 09:36 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, somerville32 | 09:36 |
| PriceChild | !forget scoobysnack | 09:36 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, PriceChild | 09:36 |
| Hawkwind | That is not something we needed | 09:36 |
| PriceChild | !scoobysnack-#ubuntuforums is <reply> Yuck! | 09:36 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, PriceChild | 09:37 |
| Hawkwind | Useless information | 09:37 |
| somerville32 | Hawkwind, neither is botsnack | 09:37 |
| somerville32 | Does it really matter? | 09:37 |
| Hawkwind | I agree 100% | 09:37 |
| somerville32 | The answer is no since we'll most likely never ever use a factoid with that name anyhow | 09:37 |
| Seveas | '!botsnack' is often used as test factoid | 09:38 |
| somerville32 | !love | 09:39 |
| ubotu | Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come. | 09:39 |
| PriceChild | there's loads of useless factoids... does it make any noticable difference on the speed of the database? | 09:40 |
| somerville32 | Doubtful | 09:40 |
| somerville32 | There really isn't that many | 09:40 |
| LjL | and sqlite is fast anyway | 09:41 |
| LjL | *cough* | 09:41 |
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| Seveas | <-- Atom- (i=Atom-@atomix.plus.com) has left #ubuntu (requested by Seveas) | 12:12 |
| Seveas | --- Seveas sets ban on *!*@atomix.plus.com | 12:12 |
| Seveas | ketp on highlighting me with !falcon | 12:12 |
| LjL | Seveas: you've got highlights on your products? that's very meticulous of you :P | 12:13 |
| Seveas | !falcon | 12:14 |
| ubotu | falcon: Falcon repository creator. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy-seveas), package size 175 kB, installed size 508 kB | 12:14 |
| Seveas | ^-- it's in my repo | 12:14 |
| LjL | ah right | 12:15 |
| LjL | Seveas: wouldn't that be a sort of thing that could belong in universe, anyway? | 12:16 |
| Seveas | yes, v2 should be there | 12:16 |
| Seveas | 1.5 is not that good | 12:16 |
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