[12:51] <PriceChild> lol I like ompaul's quit message :)
[01:37] <Mez> PriceChild, very... surreal
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> #ubuntu+1 needs a /topicsed s/dont/don't/ and s/cant/can't/ if someone has a moment.
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> same here
[01:48] <PriceChild> but that's not +! :(
[01:49] <PriceChild> ping apokryphos- 
[01:58] <LjL> here
[02:00] <PriceChild> go super LjL !
[02:00] <LjL> ta-da
[02:07] <Mez> -ChanServ- An access level of [10]  is required for [OP]  on #ubuntu+1
[02:42] <LjL> Seveas: it seems that i can't use "Add Comment" in the bantracker anymore, neither in konqueror nor in firefox. the other links appear to work
[02:44] <Mez> LjL, report a bug
[02:45] <LjL> *yawn* not right now
[02:45] <Mez> that was the answer last time someone mentioned it
[02:46] <LjL> uhm, /me wonders whether that's intentional :P
[02:46] <LjL> anyway the bugreport is for tomorrow, now is for sleep - night
[02:47] <Mez> nug 79478
[02:47] <Mez> bnug 79478
[02:47] <Mez> bug 79478
[02:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79478 in ubuntu-bots "Bantracker commenting broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79478
[02:48] <PriceChild> 3rd time lucky Mez :)
[02:48] <Mez> PriceChild, I cant type today
[02:49] <Mez> or any other day ...
[02:49] <Mez> except when I'm drunk
[02:49] <PriceChild> hehe
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> !-software-#kubuntu
[04:03] <bigfuzzyjesus> when will my ban be lifted
[04:03] <bigfuzzyjesus> it has been 2 months
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> Weren't you told to stop asking so often last week?
[04:12] <bigfuzzyjesus> tonyyarusso, no last night i was told not to ask last night because you were having a bot attack
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> bigfuzzyjesus: Not by me, someone else I mean
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> Anyway, you'll probably need to find the op who issued the ban to ask where they're at with it.
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> "sorry!"?  How would that be unintentional...
[04:32] <Mez> maybe he wanted it to be 1s ?
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> heh
[04:46] <joejaxx> if someone has the host gateway/to/x-blahblah
[04:46] <joejaxx> what does that mean
[04:47] <joejaxx> gateway/tor/*
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> !tor
[04:48] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[04:48] <joejaxx> were they granted access to use tor on freenode?
[04:48] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[04:48] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: i know
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: Sorry, I thought that had a better link
[04:48] <joejaxx> but i am asking from an op point of view
[04:48] <joejaxx> oh ok
[04:48] <joejaxx> because someone is spaming and they have that host
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: That would be your definitive answer there :)
[04:49] <Mez> t
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Hi nalioth !
[04:49] <nalioth> hi y'all
[04:49] <Mez> nalioth, you're a good person to talk to about this
[04:49] <Mez> regarding the tor ban
[04:50] <Mez> someone I was talking to earlier in #freenode-social was talking about the way they regulate tor users
[04:50] <Mez> which is that tor users can join the channel, but are muted
[04:50] <joejaxx> interesting concept
[04:50] <Mez> and have to request an operator to put an exempt on their mute
[04:50] <Mez> to unmute them
[04:50] <nalioth> Mez: they regulate ALL users with a moderated channel
[04:50] <Mez> nalioth,  ? 
[04:51] <Mez> nalioth, oh, no - someone in #freenode-social was talking about another channel, and how they dealty with tor users in that other channel
[04:51] <nalioth> Mez: everyone that joins #freenode-social that does not have an exempt cloak is muted until voiced
[04:51] <Mez> #freenode-social was just where the conversation took place
[04:51] <nalioth> Mez: we tried to mute just tor users but some fool thought join/part spam was funny
[04:52] <nalioth> Mez: now there is gpg-tor for the moral users of tor to use
[04:52] <Mez> nalioth: surely join limitiing can be used?
[04:52] <Mez> and surely theres a revolving door protection somewhere
[04:53] <nalioth> Mez: join throttling is off limits in #ubuntu 
[04:53] <nalioth> per seveas
[04:53] <joejaxx> nalioth: does a gateway/tor/x-* host mean they are connected via gpg-tor?
[04:53] <nalioth> no, joejaxx 
[04:54] <joejaxx> oh ok
[04:54] <nalioth>  /gateway/gpg-tor/user/blah is gpg-tor
[04:54] <joejaxx> ah ok
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> Aaah.  *!*@ubuntu/*, so that's why I'm auto-voiced in #freenode-social now :)
[04:55] <Mez> tonyyarusso, indeed
[06:32] <Mez> @lart mneptok 
[06:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> @t
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> @lart Jucato 
[06:34] <Jucato> :O
[06:35] <mneptok> @fart Mez 
[06:35] <Jucato> fart?!? lol
[06:37] <mneptok> yeah, you *wish* it was a typo, but i had the chili for lunch.
[06:38] <Jucato> lol
[06:43] <Mez> Jucato, did you not know I was an op in there?
[06:43] <Jucato> I know
[06:43] <Jucato> I just didn't anticipate you'd deop me lol
[06:43] <Mez> Jucato, you just seemed surprised at the deop
[06:43] <Mez> lol
[06:44] <Mez> It should protect me from being kicked anyways
[06:44] <Jucato> I'm not that cruel :P
[06:49] <Mez> Chanserv no longer accepts REMOVE ?
[06:50] <Jucato> er...
[06:51] <Mez> and that was in the wrong channel
[06:51] <Mez> lol
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> Mez: What?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Have you heard the song about Magellan from Animaniacs?
[06:52] <Jucato> I'm not yet adept at my op skills... so if I'm supposed to be doing something to protect myself... :P
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Megellan said "Hup?" and got hit by a spear!
[06:52] <Mez> Jucato, I think chanserv.py protects you
[06:53] <Mez> !chanserv.py
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chanserv.py - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <Mez> !chanserv.py is http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/Software/chanserv.py
[06:53] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[06:53] <Jucato> bah nvm... the only 2 people who love kicking me are Hobbsee and Mez anyway :)
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:55] <Mez> !chanserv.py
[06:55] <ubotu> chanserv.py is http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/Software/chanserv.py
[06:56] <Jucato> lol
[06:56] <Mez> Jucato, it's a good little script ;)
[06:56] <Mez> does a lot of nice things
[06:57] <Jucato> :)
[06:58] <Mez> (I believe it also tries and unbans you from channels if you're banned from them and stuff)
[06:58] <Mez> now all I need is a ping collector
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> ping collector?
[06:58] <Mez> ping collector
[06:58] <Mez> so if someone pings me - it logs it in a special window
[06:59] <Mez> so I can come back and respond to people who have pinged me outside of my buffer
[06:59] <Mez> without having to go and grep logs
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> irssi does that by default
[07:00] <Mez> tonyyarusso, really ?
[07:00] <Jucato> yep it does
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Mez: Yeah, when you come back from away it lists them in the server window
[07:03] <Mez> schwing
[07:03] <Jucato> another reason to use irssi :)
[07:04] <Mez> but irssi...
[07:04] <Mez> you have to remember window numbers and stuff like that
[07:04] <Mez> it's a PITA
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> pssh
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Like that's hard
[07:05] <Mez> tonyyarusso, I'm on... 43 channels in total
[07:05] <Jucato> O.O
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Mez: Whiner
[07:05] <Mez> tonyyarusso, you try remembering that ;)
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> Oooh the gap is closing
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> Bring it on!
[07:07] <Mez> tonyyarusso, :P
[07:08] <Mez> w00t
[07:08] <Mez> a decent debian sponsor
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> Who/
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> ?
[07:09] <Mez> Nelson A. de Oliveira
[07:10] <Mez> he's doing my rar/unrar uploads
[12:33] <Pez> is DBO awake?
[12:33] <mneptok> albany, ny?
[12:38] <mneptok> *sssssssss*
[03:52] <chrisbradley> hello rob
[04:34] <apokryphos-> chrisbradley: hi
[04:35] <chrisbradley> hello
[04:35] <apokryphos> what can I help you with?
[04:35] <chrisbradley> I have a project I am working on
[04:35] <chrisbradley> http://hollywood.noisecontrolmedia.com/gelwiki/index.php/Gel_Storm
[04:35] <chrisbradley> It is a seed of an idea
[04:36] <chrisbradley> I would like to know if ubuntu would like to participate
[04:36] <apokryphos> why are you mentioning this here? Please read the channel topic.
[04:37] <Mez> mwuahahahaa
[04:37] <Mez> just lean, select a username and BAM
[04:37] <Mez> they get cs larted
[04:38] <apokryphos> @lart mez
[04:38] <apokryphos> chrisbradley: #ubuntu-offtopic exists for general talk, however. 
[04:39] <Mez> @tpo rala
[04:39] <chrisbradley> I am actually looking for a press contact or e-mail address
[04:40] <apokryphos> chrisbradley: ubuntu.com -> Search: press contact
[04:40] <Mez> @lart apokryphos 
[04:40] <Mez> haha
[04:40] <Mez> my script is set to lart you
[04:40] <apokryphos> :O
[04:40] <Mez> when i hit button 15 on my game pad
[04:40] <apokryphos> haha
[04:41] <Mez> and now
[04:41] <Mez> It works as the left hand side of my keyboard
[04:42] <Mez> saddddwwwwwwwwdasdddawdaasdddasdasd
[04:42] <Mez> AaAaA
[04:42] <Mez> SAD
[04:42] <apokryphos> =)
[04:43] <Mez> lol
[04:43] <Mez> srry
[04:43] <Mez> sad I know
[04:43] <Mez> but it's great for UT
[04:44] <Mez> hit a button on the nostromo
[04:44] <Mez> and it bans them proper good
[04:44] <apokryphos> ;-)
[04:44] <Mez> sweet 
[04:44] <Mez> I can technically
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: did you use irssi?
[04:47] <apokryphos> I've used it before
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> but not normally
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[04:49] <apokryphos> what does it do?
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> Adds people I kick (and other things) to my hilight list by nickmask so I can keep an eye on them for a few days easily.
[04:50] <apokryphos> would be good for quite a few cases I guess, yeah
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> of course you can choose what to apply it to, so you could have it just on timed mutes or smth
[04:53] <Mez> help
[04:56] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: yes, I should have timed-bans implemented too
[04:56] <apokryphos> problem is I'm not on IRC *all* the time, so it wouldn't work perfectly
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> same here
[04:57] <Mez> apokryphos, code it into ubot
[04:57] <apokryphos> Mez: it would require a little more hassle though, because we'd have to tell the bot how long we want the bans to be
[05:03] <Mez> true
[05:03] <apokryphos> still, we could have a default of 24 hours
[05:04] <apokryphos> though I don't think how long we keep our bans is such an issue
[05:04] <apokryphos> since we clear out the ban-list every so often, and most people know about the appeal process
[05:05] <Mez> what - bitch in here? 
[05:05] <apokryphos> yup
[05:05] <apokryphos> we investigate the ban easily enough with the bantracker
[06:53] <joejaxx> man i REALLY wish freenode whould enable kill protection
[06:58] <somerville32> kill protection?
[06:59] <TheSheep> like in italian mafia? %)
[07:00] <Hawkwind> They do have it.  If the nick is registered, then kill it with the ghost command.  Doesn't get any easier than that
[07:01] <Hawkwind> If the nick isn't registered, then anyone rightfully has a right to use it
[07:13] <joejaxx> Hawkwind: no as in
[07:13] <joejaxx> if someone is nicksitting on my nicks
[07:14] <joejaxx> they should be autokill'd after not identifying 
[07:14] <joejaxx> after a certain time period
[07:14] <joejaxx> or force nick changed to another nick
[07:15] <Hawkwind> Again, register the nick and you can handle that.  It's the whole entire reason for registering nicks you want
[07:15] <Hawkwind> That feature is on several networks, and IMO is pointless if you register a nick you like/want
[07:18] <Mez> er
[07:18] <Mez> Hawkwind, 
[07:18] <Mez> /msg nickserv set kill on
[07:18] <Mez> sorry
[07:18] <Mez> joejaxx, the above
[07:18] <joejaxx> nope
[07:18] <joejaxx> it is disabled on freenode
[07:19] <joejaxx> Hawkwind: it is registered
[07:19] <Mez> ah
[07:19] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: Then kill the nick, it's that simple
[07:19] <joejaxx> and it is quite an annoyance
[07:19] <PriceChild> There is a functino for that on freenode
[07:19] <joejaxx> Hawkwind: try ghost killing/recovering a nick 10 times in a row and you will understand
[07:19] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: Not sure what complaining about it does, when you have the ability to get rid of the person that's got the nick
[07:19] <PriceChild> where you only get a minute to register before being killed
[07:19] <PriceChild> I read the help for it yday
[07:20] <PriceChild> /ns help set
[07:20] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: What's the point of killing it if you aren't going to use the nick ?
[07:20] <joejaxx> i am using the nick
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Then someone else can't possibly be using it
[07:20] <joejaxx> nevermind you do not understand
[07:20] <Mez> joejaxx, explain
[07:20] <joejaxx> PriceChild: they have that service disabled
[07:20] <Hawkwind> No I don't, because you're making no sense at all
[07:20] <Hawkwind> If you're using it, then noone else can.  If they are using it, kill it, and be done
[07:21] <PriceChild> hmmm ok if you say so
[07:21] <PriceChild> what about setting secure on?
[07:21] <joejaxx> 00:54 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Kill Protection is disabled on this network
[07:21] <Hawkwind> If it's that bothersome, use a bot or another client to hold the nick for you.  But it seems the nick is just there to take up space and to keep others from having it IMO
[07:22] <joejaxx> ok
[07:22] <joejaxx> this is the problem
[07:22] <joejaxx> i do have a bot on it
[07:22] <joejaxx> and when it disconnects
[07:22] <joejaxx> there are users who jump on my nicks
[07:22] <Hawkwind> So set the bot to use the ghost command if $nick is taken, and then again, you're done with it
[07:23] <joejaxx> Hawkwind: it is not that easy
[07:23] <Mez> joejaxx, why not ?
[07:23] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: So what if they do.  When you're online, kill it and take it back.  Not sure I see the big problem of having a nick in use
[07:23] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: How is it not that easy ?  It's actually dead simple
[07:23] <joejaxx> yeah you are right you do not
[07:24] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: I don't, simply because if it's *my* nick, I can use a simple ghost command and get the nick back.  
[07:24] <Hawkwind> It's not difficult to perform actually.  Nor is it difficult to have a bot do the same thing
[07:24] <Mez> joejaxx, why cant you get the bot to ghost the nick when it connects if it cant get its usual nick ?
[07:25] <joejaxx> nevermind
[07:25] <joejaxx> Mez: i can
[07:25] <joejaxx> the problem is not on my end
[07:25] <Mez> then what is it ?
[07:25] <joejaxx> it is hard to understand unless you are in my situation
[07:26] <Mez> joejaxx, then EXPLAIN
[07:26] <joejaxx> i rather not
[07:26] <joejaxx> everyone just jumps to conclusions :)
[07:26] <joejaxx> bbl i have dev to do
[07:26] <Mez> joejaxx, not if you EXPLAIN
[07:27] <joejaxx> i tried it did not work
[07:28] <Mez> on connect { if nick!=propernick{ msg("nickserv", "ghost nick password"); nick "propernick" }
[07:28] <Hawkwind> Yeah, they don't understand because the person that *seems* to know doesn't explain.
[07:29] <Hawkwind> Though honestly, I don't see any possible explanation that would state anything different than using the ghost command to get the nick, or having a bot do it.  Hard to fathom there is more to it than that
[07:29] <joejaxx> lol
[07:29] <joejaxx> your responses are the exact conclusions i am talking about
[07:29] <joejaxx> i know how to program a bot
[07:29] <LjL> you said you'd have to use GHOST x times in a row. why?
[07:29] <Hawkwind> I've seen you talk/complain about this for months now actually, and still fail to see where you've tried to accomplish the task at hand
[07:30] <joejaxx> LjL: because
[07:30] <joejaxx> the persion kept reconnecting
[07:30] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: Then do it and get it over with.  Then you don't have to worry about someone else sitting on a nick
[07:30] <joejaxx> and taking the nick
[07:30] <joejaxx> LjL: thank you for asking
[07:30] <Hawkwind> People can't *sit* on nicks if they are registered, impossible
[07:30] <Mez> joejaxx, but surely they cant reconnect in the time it takes you to change nick ?
[07:30] <Hawkwind> I wouldn't think so either
[07:30] <Mez> it takes at least 3 seconds to rejoin the server
[07:30] <Mez> watch
[07:30] <joejaxx> LjL: this guy is from cisco
[07:31] <Hawkwind> People sit on nicks in places like Efnet
[07:31] <joejaxx> LjL: i tried talking to him
[07:31] <LjL> joejaxx: uhm, wait a second, why doesn't your bot just take the nick *itself*, after having used GHOST?
[07:31] <joejaxx> LjL: it tries
[07:31] <joejaxx> and fails
[07:31] <LjL> joejaxx: why? is the guy faster?
[07:31] <joejaxx> because the guy comes back online
[07:31] <Mez> joejaxx, so? they still need to connect throguh the server which does certain processing
[07:31] <joejaxx> LjL: yeap
[07:31] <Hawkwind> joejaxx: He can't come back quicker than it takes you to type /nick somenick or quicker than a bot doing it automatically
[07:31] <LjL> joejaxx: how can the guy *reconnect* faster to the *server* than you can issue a NICK command...?
[07:31] <joejaxx> LjL: trust me i know how to use ghost and recover
[07:32] <LjL> joejaxx: i think it takes at least a second or two to connect to a freenode server normally..
[07:32] <mez_> tada
[07:32] <Hawkwind> mez_: +1
[07:32] <joejaxx> LjL: i have the bot to do it
[07:32] <Hawkwind> If the bot isn't changing nicks quick enough, then it's code error
[07:33] <Hawkwind> There are also scripts for nearly every IRC client to take a nick once it disconnects.  Some clients have such thing built in by default
[07:34] <Mez> joejaxx, what type of bot is it ?
[07:34] <LjL> joejaxx: what do you mean you have the bot to do it?
[07:36] <LjL> joejaxx: i just can't understand how this guy can be so fast to reconnect. even if he's got a monster connection and whatnot, it should still take 1 second at least to connect, while it should take practically nihil to issue a NICK command...
[07:38] <Hawkwind> When the disconnect happens, the nick should happen instantaneously.  If not, then there is something wrong with the bots code that's preventing it from happening
[07:38] <Hawkwind> You have approximately 3 - 4 seconds between a disconnect and a reconnect.  More than enough time to change nicks, possibly 2 - 3 times if it's automated in a script
[07:38] <LjL> well, it can't really happen "instantaneously", there is a roud-trip time you have to deal with... still, it should be pretty darn fast, compared to a reconnect
[07:40] <LjL> now, *my* reconnects are particularly slow, since i don't have an identd, and the server sits waiting for one... but still, even someone who does have identd running should take a little
[07:41] <LjL> joejaxx: also, what happens if you use RECOVER? do they still change nicks immediately as soon as you do RELEASE? if so, it means they're issuing NICK commands like crazy
[07:41] <LjL> that should flood them out of the network, among other things
[07:43] <Hawkwind> Also, if the nick is truly registered and this is happening, surely speaking to a staff member could prove handy.  Maybe they could block his IP/host from using said nick
[07:45] <LjL> Hawkwind: if they're reconnecting like crazy to be faster than him (and somehow manage to), i'd call that a DoS attack against freenode
[07:45] <LjL> and i suppose the staff would get the concerned address out of the network
[07:47] <Hawkwind> We can all bet that's not happening though.  That's pretty overboard, and if it was, like you said, he wouldn't be having this issue then
[07:57] <ubotu> In ubotu, jrib said: motu is also To request packages visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[08:00] <LjL> that page is linked to in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU (which is what the bot currently gives)... it's in a bit of an obscure place, but perhaps we'd best leave it so? ;)
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Would it be possible to make packages show up with a custom name also? Like !mozilla-thunderbird|bob would show bob: mozilla-thunderbird: an email client ... whatever. It would be very convenient if someone comes asking where to find a program.
[08:13] <jenda> !bots| ArrenLex
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <jenda> meh
[08:13] <jenda> !ubuntulog | ArrenLex
[08:13] <ubotu> ArrenLex: ubuntulog is a logging bot run on various Ubuntu channels. You can read the logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[08:13] <ArrenLex> !xserver-xorg | jenda
[08:13] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[08:13] <jenda> hmm
[08:13] <jenda> that warrants a prod of the boss :)
[08:14] <jenda> (((>>> Seveas <<<)))
[08:14] <LjL> he knows...
[08:14] <LjL> i never found it a bit problem however, the user *is* highlighted after all
[08:14] <LjL> s/bit/big/
[08:14] <Seveas> ?
[08:14] <PriceChild> do you mean alias?
[08:14] <Hawkwind> They are ?
[08:14] <Hawkwind> !xchat
[08:14] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[08:14] <Seveas> jenda, 'sup?
[08:15] <Seveas> !xchat | Hawkwind 
[08:15] <LjL> PriceChild: me means using the | syntax with package names
[08:15] <Seveas> meh
[08:15] <LjL> Seveas: you broke it
[08:15] <Seveas> !ubuntu-desktop | Hawkwind 
[08:15] <ubotu> Hawkwind: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[08:15] <ArrenLex> It becomes a problem for suers who don't know that ! calls the bot and don't know to look for something addressed to them. According to what you're saying, the | username syntax need never be used at all, since the user is highlighted. Yet obviously it's very useful.
[08:15] <Seveas> !totem | Hawkwind 
[08:15] <ubotu> Hawkwind: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:15] <Seveas> narf!
[08:15] <Seveas> !w32codecs | Hawkwind 
[08:15] <ubotu> Hawkwind: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[08:15] <Seveas> argh
[08:15] <Hawkwind> LOL
[08:16] <Seveas> !xmoto | Hawkwind 
[08:16] <ubotu> xmoto: 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[08:16] <Seveas> hmm
[08:16] <LjL> ArrenLex: wrong - if there was no | syntax at all (like it used to be), adding " | username" after a factoid would make the bot say there is no such factoid
[08:16] <Seveas> that's broken!
[08:16] <Hawkwind> There we go
[08:16] <LjL> so you couldn't highlight people at all
[08:16] <LjL> Seveas: been like this since "|" was added :P
[08:16] <Seveas> hmm
[08:16] <Seveas> file it as a bug
[08:16] <Hawkwind> The bot should still say the users nick at the beginning IMO
[08:16] <jenda> universal answer :)
[08:17] <ArrenLex> LjL: No, I mean, if adding | username to a factoid made ubotu display just the factoid, it would be less useful than the current system. The same thing for packages; adding | username to a package description is useful for the same reason that it is in normal factoids.
[08:17] <LjL> Seveas: i suggest you change the ":" into something else though, it's ugly to see two colons in a row :P
[08:17] <Seveas> LjL, true
[08:17] <LjL> ArrenLex: sure, i never said it was useless, i said i didn't find it a big problem
[09:33] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums, lotusleaf said: ubotu: !scoobysnack is !botsnack
[09:36] <somerville32> !scoobysnack is <reply> Yuck!
[09:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that, somerville32
[09:36] <PriceChild> !forget scoobysnack
[09:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that, PriceChild
[09:36] <Hawkwind> That is not something we needed
[09:36] <PriceChild> !scoobysnack-#ubuntuforums is <reply> Yuck!
[09:37] <ubotu> I'll remember that, PriceChild
[09:37] <Hawkwind> Useless information
[09:37] <somerville32> Hawkwind, neither is botsnack
[09:37] <somerville32> Does it really matter?
[09:37] <Hawkwind> I agree 100%
[09:37] <somerville32> The answer is no since we'll most likely never ever use a factoid with that name anyhow
[09:38] <Seveas> '!botsnack' is often used as test factoid
[09:39] <somerville32> !love
[09:39] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[09:40] <PriceChild> there's loads of useless factoids... does it make any noticable difference on the speed of the database?
[09:40] <somerville32> Doubtful
[09:40] <somerville32> There really isn't that many
[09:41] <LjL> and sqlite is fast anyway
[09:41] <LjL> *cough*
[12:12] <Seveas> <-- Atom- (i=Atom-@atomix.plus.com) has left #ubuntu (requested by Seveas)
[12:12] <Seveas> --- Seveas sets ban on *!*@atomix.plus.com
[12:12] <Seveas> ketp on highlighting me with !falcon
[12:13] <LjL> Seveas: you've got highlights on your products? that's very meticulous of you :P
[12:14] <Seveas> !falcon
[12:14] <ubotu> falcon: Falcon repository creator. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy-seveas), package size 175 kB, installed size 508 kB
[12:14] <Seveas> ^-- it's in my repo
[12:15] <LjL> ah right
[12:16] <LjL> Seveas: wouldn't that be a sort of thing that could belong in universe, anyway?
[12:16] <Seveas> yes, v2 should be there
[12:16] <Seveas> 1.5 is not that good