[12:35] <TheSheep> Jester45: yeah, it's .pl -- Perl
[01:19] <Torist> i am having trouble with ssh -X user@host
[01:19] <cellofellow> well... ?
[01:19] <Torist> its not letting me forward anything, and it has to do with this line in the /etc/sshd_config :
[01:20] <cellofellow> hmm
[01:20] <Torist> X11DisplayOffset 10.0
[01:20] <Torist> any suggestions?
[01:22] <Torist> its not letting anything graphic open
[01:22] <Torist> under root, or any other user that logs in through ssh
[01:23] <Torist> or better yet, i will try to comment it out if anyone knows the command to restart ssh
[01:23] <cellofellow> um
[01:23] <cellofellow> don't remove that line
[01:23] <cellofellow> to restart is /etc/init.d/ssh restart.
[01:24] <Jester45> if you know things about ghost in the shell head to #xubuntu-offtopic please
[01:27] <Torist> i need to remove that line
[01:27] <Torist> or fix it, because that line is not letting me open graphical programs through ssh
[01:27] <Torist> could it do something with me running 800x600?
[01:28] <cellofellow> nah. 10.0 is a virtual X server, connecting to the real X server on the other end of the SSH tunnel.
[01:28] <Torist> let me see if i can duplicate the error after restarting ssh
[01:33] <Torist> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. The application 'blah' lost its connection to the display :10.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application.
[01:34] <Torist> i tried as user and root, same error
[01:35] <cellofellow> something is wrong with the :10.0 server, but I don't know what to do.
[01:36] <cellofellow> I've never had trouble with X over SSH.
[01:36] <Torist> is there another room i should go to ask?
[01:36] <Torist> or maybe reinstall the X?
[01:36] <cellofellow> you don't need to reinstall X, it's an ssh problem
[01:36] <cellofellow> maybe #ssh, but I don't know.
[01:38] <Torist> i tried bash
[01:38] <Torist> you mean type #ssh instead of ssh?
[01:41] <cellofellow> no, channel #ssh
[01:41] <cellofellow> # meens channel
[01:41] <Torist> oh, ok, thanks
[01:41] <Torist> i thought you meant in terminal lol
[01:41] <cellofellow> :0)
[01:41] <cellofellow> :)
[01:42] <Torist> channels empty :)
[01:43] <somerville32> cellofellow: Don't point people elsewhere we can help them here
[01:43] <somerville32> Torist: The remote host has to have x forwarding enabled
[01:43] <Torist> somerville32, did you see the error above?
[01:43] <Torist> it does in the sshd_config
[01:44] <somerville32> What application are you trying to forward?
[01:44] <Torist> any
[01:44] <Torist> firefox
[01:44] <Torist> mousepad
[01:44] <Torist> get the same error for all, except tightvnc
[01:44] <Torist> a different error there, but along the same lines
[01:45] <cellofellow> somerville32: he asked
[01:45] <cellofellow> sorry
[01:45] <somerville32> Try using -Y
[01:45] <Torist> tried that
[01:45] <Torist> same error
[01:45] <Torist> tried both -X and -Y in the same line, and same error also
[01:46] <somerville32> one sec
[01:46] <Torist> let me put my sshd_config on my website
[01:46] <cellofellow> !paste
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:46] <Torist> can i sudo apt-get install pastebin?
[01:48] <Torist> done
[01:48] <Torist> im torist as my name
[01:50] <Torist> did you get it ubotu?
[01:51] <Torist> or cellofellow
[01:53] <Torist> it thinks im spamming the board
[01:53] <Torist> its not gonna let me write anything there
[01:54] <Jester45> what
[01:55] <Torist> its because im a tor server :(```
[01:55] <Torist> they must have banned my ip
[01:55] <Jester45> o
[01:55] <Jester45> no
[01:55] <Jester45> pastebin is a website
[01:56] <Torist> yeah
[01:56] <Torist> i keep getting a spamming message, even the first time i went there
[01:56] <Torist> the first was probably because i didn't have javascript
[01:57] <Torist> the second because im a tor server
[01:57] <TheSheep> Torist: put it here
[01:57] <TheSheep> Torist: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/?action=edit;id=torist
[01:57] <Torist> ok
[01:58] <Torist> done
[01:59] <Torist> its there, but a little reformatted
[01:59] <TheSheep> let me fix it
[01:59] <TheSheep> ok
[02:00] <TheSheep> Jester45: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/torist
[02:00] <Torist> yep, thats it, thanks
[02:01] <Torist> i think the error has to do with this line: X11DisplayOffset 10.0
[02:02] <somerville32> Change it then? :)
[02:02] <Torist> what should i change it to, i don't even know what it means?
[02:03] <Torist> can i comment it out maybe?
[02:05] <Torist> trying
[02:05] <Torist> --> putting thoughts into action <--
[02:05] <Torist> same error
[02:05] <Torist> not that line i guess
[02:07] <Torist> any other guesses any1?
[02:12] <Torist> i guess im out of luck then
[02:12] <Torist> if no one sparks a suggestion
[02:49] <Eaglewolf> I'm trying to install dapper on my laptop, it gets to 'booting the kernel', and then is stalling. It's not frozen, just doesn't go any further
[02:50] <TheSheep> Eaglewolf: any messages?
[02:50] <TheSheep> Eaglewolf: you can try various boot options
[02:50] <Eaglewolf> no messages
[02:56] <Eaglewolf> nevermind, i forgot to mark it as bootable in the burn phase :P
[02:56] <TheSheep> Eaglewolf: no, that's not it
[02:57] <TheSheep> Eaglewolf: it does boot, after all, if it displays the 'booting the kernel' message
[02:57] <Eaglewolf> well i reburned with boot flag and it got further...
[02:57] <TheSheep> oh
[02:57] <TheSheep> maybe cd defect
[02:57] <Eaglewolf> although, it didnt get me to the shell
[02:57] <Eaglewolf> er
[02:57] <Eaglewolf> gui
[02:57] <Eaglewolf> it brought me to a shell
[02:58] <Eaglewolf> strange...
[02:58] <TheSheep> I have to go to sleep, maybe someone else will be able to help
[02:58] <Eaglewolf> k, thanks anyway
[03:39] <Eaglewolf> Are there any 6.10 netboot install cds available for xubuntu? I can't seem to find them
[04:07] <Jester45> kinda slow here
[04:08] <Eaglewolf> yep
[04:10] <Eaglewolf> Do you know what packages I need to install to turn straight ubuntu 6.10 to xubuntu? I can't seem to find a list. either that or a guide for an xubuntu netboot install, with the needed files
[04:10] <Jester45> its
[04:10] <Jester45> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: there is a meta package that will automatically install them all for you .... "sudo aptitude xubuntu-desktop"
[04:11] <Eaglewolf> great, thanks
[04:11] <Jester45> haha maxamillion i win
[04:11] <maxamillion> errr... "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" ... i forgot the install part
[04:11] <Eaglewolf> heh
[04:11] <Eaglewolf> got it ;)
[04:11] <Eaglewolf> this laptop has been a nightmare to try to get linux on
[04:12] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: an unfortunate amount of laptops tend to join that trend
[04:12] <Eaglewolf> pcmcia cdrom, and no other bootable media. thank god it can do pxe
[04:12] <Eaglewolf> i could get debian on it, but i'd rather not have my first debian experiance on a laptop
[04:13] <Eaglewolf> too much hassle
[04:14] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: i had the same problem with an old sony vaio picture book, something about the pcmcia cd-rom made it to where 2.6 kernels can't see the cd after it boots, it runs debian sarge 2.4 right now
[04:15] <Eaglewolf> this is an old sony vaio :P
[04:15] <Jester45> someone should make a distro or something just for laptops
[04:15] <Eaglewolf> i actually have debian on the drive right now but i think i messed up some crap in the install, and i need a kernel recompile for pcmcia drivers, and the video drivers, etc
[04:15] <Eaglewolf> too much hassle
[04:15] <Eaglewolf> Jester45: i was thinking the same earlier today
[04:16] <Jester45> i found my new best friend
[04:16] <Jester45> gftp
[04:17] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: the one i have doesn't have a ethernet port either so i had to do a base installation of debian, get a pcmcia ethernet card and then install everything else by hand
[04:17] <Eaglewolf> ouch
[04:17] <Eaglewolf> this one at least has ethernet
[04:17] <maxamillion> Jester45: gftp is a wonder application, i would really like to see if we can get it default in feisty
[04:17] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: that's a plus :)
[04:17] <Eaglewolf> on the gftp note: i've has a great experiance with yafc
[04:18] <Jester45> maxamillion: no they need a lighter one than that so its more xfce ish
[04:18] <Eaglewolf> similar program, but i found it better for a problem i had a while ago
[04:18] <Eaglewolf> it does sftp correctly
[04:18] <TheSheep> Jester45: with xarchiver-like interface!
[04:19] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: i think i will investigate yafc :)
[04:19] <Eaglewolf> i highly recommend it
[04:20] <Eaglewolf> it was the best one i found for CLI sftp support
[04:20] <maxamillion> ooooh, its cli ... i will definitely try it
[04:20] <Eaglewolf> yea
[04:21] <Eaglewolf> i needed it for my old system because i had to move some files over to get it online, and i couldnt get a gui up without the files (video drivers)
[04:21] <TheSheep> it's pretty :)
[04:21] <Eaglewolf> the 1-3 weeks with no gui was very educational
[04:21] <Eaglewolf> i found apps to do all my everyday stuff
[04:22] <Eaglewolf> using lynx variants also gave me quite a good appreciation for good web page design :)
[04:22] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: yeah ... when you are forced into the cli you truely learn how useful it can be
[04:22] <Eaglewolf> i loved it
[04:22] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: i recommend links2 ... good cli web browser :)
[04:22] <maxamillion> !links2
[04:22] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[04:22] <Eaglewolf> i use elinks
[04:22] <maxamillion> ahhh ok, same difference
[04:23] <TheSheep> w3m is nice -- it supports the mouse wheel
[04:23] <Eaglewolf> w3m?
[04:23] <Eaglewolf> ah ok
[04:23] <maxamillion> !info w3m
[04:23] <ubotu> w3m: WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is standard. Version 0.5.1-4ubuntu2.6.10 (edgy), package size 1059 kB, installed size 1820 kB
[04:23] <Eaglewolf> doesnt matter for me, i dont have mouse emulation on my terminals :P
[04:24] <Eaglewolf> tried it once and had a bad experiance with it making my mouse spaz all over the screen in the gui at random times
[04:25] <Jester45> http://www1.rasterwerks.com/game/phosphor/beta1.asp <------- try that its pretty cool
[04:25] <maxamillion> Jester45: don't think that plugin is available for 64-bit linux :/
[04:25] <Eaglewolf>  i dont even bother with flash
[04:26] <Eaglewolf> i've never seen any useful flash app
[04:26] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: its not flash, its shockwave
[04:26] <Eaglewolf> only cheesy games and animations
[04:26] <Eaglewolf> oh
[04:26] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: i use gnash for flash on 64-bit .... it functions enough to get through sites where i need info from and its required
[04:27] <Eaglewolf> i've heard people talk about gnash but never actually used it
[04:27] <Eaglewolf> from what i hear its still not at 100% support yet
[04:27] <maxamillion> its in alpha development :P
[04:27] <maxamillion> but like i said, good enough for when i just need it
[04:27] <Eaglewolf> that would explain it
[04:28] <Eaglewolf> what do you need it for?
[04:28] <Jester45> Eaglewolf: i have a flash vnc client and flash ftp client
[04:28] <Eaglewolf> that's neat
[04:28] <Jester45> and that link was a 3d fps with soon to be online play
[04:28] <Eaglewolf> heh
[04:28] <Jester45> its kinda like quake but its on browser
[04:28] <Eaglewolf> seen it
[04:28] <Eaglewolf> i believe
[04:28] <Jester45> PLUS its fullscreen woot
[04:29] <Eaglewolf> there have been flash quake-alikes for a looong time
[04:29] <Eaglewolf> for fps though, i love my tremulous <3
[04:29] <Eaglewolf> only game i need
[04:29] <Eaglewolf> sigh
[04:30] <Eaglewolf> i need to set up a dhcp server on this rig for the netinstall
[04:30] <Eaglewolf> pain in the ass...
[04:31] <Eaglewolf> of course i can only find .deb and suse packages for the pxe program i need
[04:31] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: some websites i might need to visit at work will require flash ... and i run 64-bit linux on a machine in windows land while i'm in the office so i can't tell me boss (who i faught with to let me run linux) "i can't see that link you sent me, i don't have flash support)
[04:31] <Eaglewolf> ah
[04:31] <Eaglewolf> yea that'd do it
[04:32] <Eaglewolf> hmm
[04:32] <Eaglewolf> i think i'll wait to do the install until later...
[04:32] <Jester45> maxamillion: im doing that at school
[04:33] <maxamillion> i am a student employee for my university and i am rather confident that i am the only student employee on campus who runs linux and that's just because my boss is high enough on the food chain to let me
[04:33] <Eaglewolf> be easier to do it off a windows machine
[04:33] <Eaglewolf> heh
[04:33] <Jester45> i got 5 running DSL and 2 on xubuntu and tomarror will be a knoppix
[04:33] <Eaglewolf> i'm in a moderately similar position, as a student intern for the town/school system where i live
[04:33] <Eaglewolf> only linux guy in a sea of mac/win
[04:34] <Jester45> Eaglewolf: i hear you
[04:34] <maxamillion> Jester45: you can't install knoppix on a hard drive
[04:34] <Jester45> i have to explain what linux is about once or twice a day
[04:34] <Eaglewolf> ouch
[04:34] <Jester45> maxamillion: usb
[04:34] <Eaglewolf> max: yes you can i think
[04:34] <maxamillion> Jester45: ah ... close enough
[04:34] <Jester45> yeps
[04:34] <Eaglewolf> from a knoppix livecd iirc it gives option to install to drive
[04:35] <Jester45> its ganna be on the inside so nobody will find it
[04:35] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: you used to be able to ... so if you have an older version you can, but i think they phased it out a couple releases ago
[04:35] <Eaglewolf> wow
[04:35] <Eaglewolf> wierd
[04:35] <Eaglewolf> wonder why
[04:35] <Jester45> DSL is still gun
[04:35] <Jester45> fun*
[04:35] <maxamillion> Eaglewolf: i think it was taking up space on the cd they wanted for other things
[04:35] <Eaglewolf> true enough
[04:35] <Jester45> like what
[04:35] <maxamillion> yeah ... DSL is one of the best live cds on the planet
[04:35] <Jester45> its a huge iso compared to dsl
[04:36] <maxamillion> lets move this convo to #xubuntu-offtopic
[04:36] <Eaglewolf> hmm
[04:36] <Jester45> Tiny linux is good
[04:36] <Jester45> im ready for it this time maxamillion
[04:37] <maxamillion> Jester45: well, you were already in here so i didn't send you one
[05:08] <gunny01> hi. I just installed xubuntu, and the time was wrong, so I changed it. now when i try to use sudo, i get this response
[05:08] <gunny01> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 17 23:56:23 2007
[05:09] <Jester45> how did you change the time
[05:10] <gunny01> Applications/System/Time and Date
[05:11] <Jester45> did it ask for your password?
[05:11] <gunny01> nope.
[05:11] <Jester45> ok
[05:12] <Jester45> try "sudo gksu time-admin"
[05:13] <Jester45> in a terminal without ""
[05:14] <gunny01> i get the same sudo response as before: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 17 23:56:23 2007
[05:14] <Jester45> did you change the time?
[05:15] <gunny01> huh?
[05:15] <gunny01> couldn't
[05:15] <Jester45> type sudo gksu time-admin change the time then close it
[05:15] <Jester45> o
[05:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Run sudo -K.  It'll reset the sudo cached timestamp.
[05:15] <Jester45> PuMpErNiCkLe: why did you have to come
[05:16] <Jester45> PuMpErNiCkLe: i would of figured it out :)
[05:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeh, but I finally got some free time. :)
[05:16] <sushi_> How do I remove the password prompt after i close my laptop lid?
[05:17] <sushi_> On the same subject how do I auto-login in xdm ?
[05:17] <sushi_> I want to make this computer as guest-friendly as possible but password prompts keep showing up to my guests
[05:17] <gunny01> Pump...:I can't use sudo -k
[05:18] <gunny01> i get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 17 23:56:23 2007
[05:18] <Jester45> menu > system > login window
[05:18] <Jester45> PuMpErNiCkLe: he cant use sudo
[05:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Jester45: sudo -K is the cure to that
[05:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Read the man page.
[05:19] <Jester45> sushi_:  menu > system > login window > security > enable auto login
[05:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hmmm
[05:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gunny01: sudo -K
[05:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's case sensitive.
[05:19] <gunny01> sudo -K dosen't work
[05:20] <Jester45> haha i was right
[05:20] <gunny01> tom@bt-homemade-linux:~$ sudo -K
[05:20] <gunny01> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 17 23:56:23 2007
[05:20] <Jester45> PuMpErNiCkLe: how about telling sudo to wait X mintues b4 trying ot exe
[05:21] <Jester45> so that its the right time for it to work then it would update to th right time
[05:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Odd.  sudo -K revokes the timestamp.
[05:21] <Jester45> sushi_: did that work>
[05:21] <sushi_> Jester45 : when I close my lid  it still prompts for password =\
[05:22] <Jester45> sushi_: try xscreensaver-demo
[05:22] <Jester45> then uncheck password promt
[05:22] <Jester45> the menu thing remove the login
[05:23] <gunny01> doesn't seem to be working...
[05:23] <sushi_> jester45 that's what I tried first
[05:25] <Jester45> idk what laptops do when closed try messing with the login window stuff
[05:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> There's a bug in sudo, it seems: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/43233
[05:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43233 in sudo ""sudo -k" fails when timestamp is in the future" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 
[05:26] <Jester45> PuMpErNiCkLe: what about live cd into the config for time??
[05:26] <gunny01> got it: moved system clock (no pass) ahead and sudo works again.
[05:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's fixable, but only from another tty.
[05:26] <gunny01> will know use sudo gksu time-admin
[05:26] <Jester45> o
[05:27] <gunny01> all good.
[05:28] <gunny01> or not...
[05:28] <Jester45> gunny01: do "sudo mousepad /usr/share/applications/Time*/" and look for the line exec time-admin and change it to gksu time-admin
[05:29] <Jester45> after you fix your sudo problem
[05:30] <Jester45> its /usr/share/applications/time.desktop
[05:31] <Jester45> bye bye all
[06:56] <_3uG_> hi. can anyone suggest a good, lightweight desktop manager that will work well with xfce?
[07:00] <maxamillion> _3uG_: i don't think i follow ... xfce has its own desktop manager
[07:01] <_3uG_> right, xfdesktop.. but it's been crashing a lot on me lately, and i'd like to see if i can use something else to manager the desktop icons/wallpaper for a little whlie
[07:05] <maxamillion> _3uG_: yeah, you can use anything under the sun .... just google "X11 desktop managers" and pick one that catches your eye
[07:05] <_3uG_> maxamillion, ah.. i'll do that then, at least until i can use the full 4.4 xfce release
[07:06] <_3uG_> maxamillion, thanks
[07:12] <maxamillion> !wifi
[07:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:13] <maxamillion> !printer
[07:13] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:19] <saviles> i can't seem to get a website using firefox. i tried accessing on port 80 using telnet and wget and it times out. using tracepath, it stops after hop 16. Interestingly, my winxp system on the same network can get to the website just fine. any ideas?
[07:21] <maxamillion> saviles: can you ping the website
[07:21] <maxamillion> ?*
[07:21] <saviles> i also tried rebooting and removing the IP xubuntu was on from the router and that didn't help.
[07:21] <saviles> yeah, ping is the only thing that works and it resolves to the correct IP.
[07:22] <saviles> i can get to any website (google.com, yahoo.com, etc) w/out any issues.
[07:24] <maxamillion> so ... it has 100% success with ping, but fails at tracepath?
[07:24] <saviles> yup.
[07:24] <maxamillion> thats rahter interesting
[07:24] <maxamillion> rather*
[07:24] <saviles> i compared it with the traceroute from my winxp and they look identical.
[07:25] <maxamillion> yeah ... they pretty much are
[07:25] <maxamillion> !tracepath
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tracepath - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <maxamillion> !info tracepath
[07:25] <ubotu> Package tracepath does not exist in any distro I know
[07:25] <maxamillion> bah ... nvm
[07:26] <saviles> i can't think of anything internally, within the OS, that can cause this.
[07:27] <saviles> I can't remember if getting to the website worked, either.. since I've rebuilt this box a few times in the last week or so.
[07:27] <maxamillion> try doing "sudo dhclient" in the terminal ... I have heard of people having strange networking issues that are solved by just re-licensing the ip from the router, i can't explain why though :(
[07:30] <maxamillion> cellofellow: hello
[07:30] <saviles> maxamillion: nope. :(
[07:30] <cellofellow> hi
[07:30] <maxamillion> cellofellow: any idea why a machine could ping a website but not reach it via tracepath or firefox?
[07:31] <maxamillion> saviles: you have firestarter installed?
[07:31] <cellofellow> cause of strange things happening with the routers between you and the machine
[07:31] <saviles> i don't know what that is.
[07:31] <cellofellow> ooops
[07:31] <saviles> cellofellow: i have a winxp system on the same network that's able to access it w/out any issues.
[07:33] <saviles> maxamillion: i see that's a firewall. no, i don't have it installed.. unless it comes with xubuntu by default.
[07:34] <maxamillion> no, it doesn't
[07:34] <maxamillion> saviles: try this out ... its a little lengthy, but it might help .. http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/01/traceroute-very-useful-troubleshooting.html
[07:43] <saviles> maxamillion: the traceroutes between my winxp and xubuntu box are identical. the only issue i see is here: 16:  lax4-core02-1-3_to_lax4-core01-1-3.net2ez.com (64.93.64.26) asymm  8 120.137ms
[07:43] <saviles> 17:  no reply
[07:44] <cellofellow> it's tracert on windows IIRC
[07:45] <saviles> that's from my xubuntu system.
[07:45] <maxamillion> i want this phone ... http://www.ministryoftech.com/2006/11/09/fic-neo1973-smartphone-with-linux-based-openmoko-open-source-platform/
[07:45] <maxamillion> saviles: i hate to say it but i am completely out of ideas
[07:46] <saviles> i understand. its very odd.
[07:50] <saviles> is there something similar to a Windows 'hosts' file?
[07:51] <cellofellow> /etc/hosts
[07:51] <saviles> yeah, just found it. nothing there. :(
[07:51] <cellofellow> you can add stuff.
[07:53] <saviles> yeah, i'm not sure that will help me.
[07:53] <saviles> pinging it resolves to the correct IP. so does tracepath'ing it.
[07:58] <bigfuzzyjesus> !XDMCP
[07:58] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[07:59] <saviles> ohh well. hopefully this stuff figures itself out.
[07:59] <saviles> its quite odd.
[07:59] <saviles> thanks for all the help. later.
[08:02] <maxamillion> WOOT we got mentioned with the rest of the *buntu's on distrowatch
[08:02] <cellofellow> I think if they combined *buntu on distrowatch then it would be a better competitor with OpenSuse.
[08:04] <maxamillion> yeah ... i don't really care about the competition ... people like opensuse because of its yast control panel (which is nice, but screams windows)
[08:17] <Ro_Vai> we got mentioned on distrowatch cool ^.^
[09:32] <Maximilian1st> Hi all.
[09:32] <Maximilian1st> !beta
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <TheSheep> !feisty
[09:32] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:33] <Maximilian1st> I always miss that one! :-) thx
[09:33] <Maximilian1st> I confirmed a bug with the desktop verseion yesterday and I am just giving the alternate version a try.
[10:08] <biberao> hey
[10:09] <biberao> could anyone help me
[10:09] <gabkdlly> !ask
[10:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:09] <biberao> wait a sec
[10:09] <biberao> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 0
[10:09] <biberao> ive read that i needed to go on recovery mode and do visudo
[10:09] <biberao> how do i get into recovery mode?
[10:10] <biberao> pls
[10:11] <Ro_Vai> !recovery mode
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recovery mode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <biberao> Ro_Vai:  ihih
[10:12] <biberao> any way pls?
[10:12] <Ro_Vai> you didnt get my message?
[10:15] <gabkdlly> biberao: google tells me this : http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch08.html
[10:16] <gabkdlly> does that help?
[10:38] <biberao> hi
[10:39] <biberao> i fixed
[10:39] <biberao> .)
[10:39] <biberao> gabkdlly:
[10:39] <gabkdlly> yes?
[10:39] <biberao> its fixed
[10:39] <biberao> i rebooted
[10:39] <biberao> lol
[10:39] <gabkdlly> cool.
[10:39] <gabkdlly> google is your friend
[10:39] <gabkdlly> ;)
[10:43] <biberao> yeah
[10:54] <biberao> dude
[10:54] <biberao> gabkdlly:
[10:54] <biberao> can you give me a tut to add shares to linux
[10:55] <biberao> i want to mount win2k3 shares on linux
[10:55] <biberao> but gives me this
[10:55] <biberao> cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[10:55] <biberao> 5925: protocol negotiation failed
[10:55] <biberao> SMB connection failed
[10:55] <biberao> and sorry the flood
[11:00] <beginn3r> is the xfce crashing on startup as a result of evolution-alarm-notify fixed yet?
[11:02] <beginn3r> anyone  around?
[11:03] <gabkdlly> yup
[11:03] <gabkdlly> but I don't know the answer to your question
[11:03] <gabkdlly> did you check if there is a bug filed on launchpad?
[11:04] <beginn3r> yeha
[11:04] <gabkdlly> for the record, my XFCE is not crashing on startup, and I also have Gnome installed
[11:04] <beginn3r> but  I couldn't find any fix around
[11:04] <Maximilian1st> beginn3r: please could you post the link to the bug report?
[11:05] <beginn3r> http://www.mail-archive.com/desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg59223.html
[11:08] <gabkdlly> biberao: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8479
[11:08] <Maximilian1st> So the bug is not resolved. Check that bugpage every now and then to see if they fixed it
[11:08] <gabkdlly> biberao: the ubuntu forums are also a good resource
[11:10] <beginn3r> I think is more to do with ubuntu-desktop rather than xfce right
[11:20] <biberao> ack
[11:20] <biberao> gabkdlly:
[11:20] <biberao> im using xfce where are the admin tools?
[11:21] <gabkdlly> biberao: applications then settings, or applications then system
[11:21] <gabkdlly> depending on what you want to administer :)
[11:22] <biberao> From Administrative Tools, open Domain Controller Security Settings.
[11:22] <biberao> Go to Local Policies then Security Options.
[11:22] <biberao> i dont have that
[11:22] <TheSheep> biberao: I think you're talking about wrong operating system
[11:22] <biberao> TheSheep: gabkdlly  gave me the site
[11:22] <biberao> .P
[11:22] <biberao> i have xubuntu here
[11:23] <biberao> TheSheep:  i want to mount win2k3 shares
[11:23] <biberao> here
[11:24] <TheSheep> biberao: the Administrative Tools are on the w2k3 server
[11:24] <biberao> oh
[11:33] <biberao> its fixed thx
[11:33] <biberao> TheSheep: dont need to chagne
[11:33] <TheSheep> biberao: good :)
[11:40] <biberao> bye gtg thx
[11:54] <Maximilian1st> TheSheep: have you tried the herd2 CD?
[11:54] <Maximilian1st> I just noticed the network-admin launcher in the menu does not work.
[11:55] <Maximilian1st> It works usind sudo in the terminal.
[12:40] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: yes, same with users and groups and time and date
[12:40] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: it's the same if you upgrade
[12:55] <Maximilian1st> TheSheep: So it is a general problem. Is it reported somewhere? Is there a specail place for all the herd2 related bugs?
[12:55] <TheSheep> no idea, but it seems so obvious that it should be reported, I guess :)
[12:55] <TheSheep> just add gksudo to the launchers and voila
[12:56] <Maximilian1st> I searched for the network admin one, is it called .desktop?
[12:57] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: in /usr/share/applications/
[12:57] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: a .desktop file
[12:57] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: just grep for it
[02:15] <Maximilian1st> Hey, does someone know what to do when the system does not boot anymore after the restricted modules installation? If I boot in recovery mode and try to apt-get remove the package I get a  "W: Not using locking for read only lock dile /var/lob/dpkg/lock
[02:40] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: mount -o remount,rw /
[03:16] <Maximilian1st> TheSheep: this solved the booting problem, thank you. It was due to the restricted modules package so my wifi card won't work for the moment or maybe I try the older packages.
[03:16] <toxik> Hi, my Quake3 won't use the accelerated graphics. Does anyone know why? It doesn't want to start unless I tell it to allow software GL
[03:25] <toxik> how can I know what graphics driver my X is actually using? I don't know if it's using sis or not
[03:29] <Maximilian1st> toxik: You maxbe want to check this page http://www.winischhofer.net/sisdri.shtml
[03:33] <toxik> >_>
[03:33] <toxik> I can't use DRI
[03:34] <Maximilian1st> check teh file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:39] <toxik> It has Load "dri" and uses sis
[03:40] <toxik>  95     Driver      "sis"
[03:41] <Maximilian1st> What card do you have?
[03:42] <Maximilian1st> toxik: use lspci in a console if you are not sure...
[03:43] <toxik> It tells me like 5 different
[03:43] <toxik> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[03:44] <moe_evil> toxik: in edgy the dri doesn't work unless you desactivate the composite extension
[03:44] <Maximilian1st> I don't know these cards but the website I just posted a link from states that there is no dri support for this card... Maybe try disabling the dri option by placing a # at the beginning of the line.
[03:45] <toxik> moe_evil: I'll try that
[03:45] <toxik> Maximilian1st: Would that mean that I am without accelerated graphics?
[03:46] <toxik> moe_evil: However, it doesn't seem like I got composite enabled
[03:46] <moe_evil> it's enabled by default
[03:46] <moe_evil> yo have to expecificaly dissable it
[03:46] <toxik> hm, apparently I indeed do
[03:47] <toxik> I only know how to explicitly enable composite
[03:47] <moe_evil> Option Composite disable
[03:48] <toxik> in what section?
[03:48] <moe_evil> but as Maximilian1st says maybe your card isn't supported
[03:48] <moe_evil> Section Extensions
[03:49] <toxik> I see, thank you - will try
[03:49] <toxik> I don't have such section :P
[03:49] <toxik> I'll add it
[03:52] <toxik> Okay, so now composite is disabled - xcompmgr tells me that there's no composite extension
[03:52] <toxik> which is desireable, but ioquake3 still runs with software GL :\
[03:53] <moe_evil> look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for DRI
[03:54] <toxik> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[03:54] <yamama> hello
[03:55] <yamama> i have kubuntu how i can install xubuntu (xfce) in my system ??
[03:55] <moe_evil> so it seems that finally your driver card doesn't support dri :(
[03:55] <moe_evil> yamama: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:55] <toxik> :/
[03:56] <toxik> moe_evil: but somehow I feel there should be some acceleration, I mean on Windows this SiS card can use some sort of acceleration
[03:56] <Maximilian1st> yamama: search for xubuntu in synaptics, there is one called xubuntu-desktop or something n this way...
[03:56] <moe_evil> yes toxik, it's cuestion of the linux driver
[03:57] <toxik> moe_evil: hm, that site says that 2.6.3 linux needs sisfb, I run 2.6.17 (I mean, does 2.6.3 even exist?)
[03:57] <toxik> meh nevermind
[03:57] <toxik> I always mix up .3 with .30 for some reason
[04:01] <yamama> what is edubuntu ??
[04:09] <b52laptop> hi
[04:10] <b52laptop> is it possible to install python2.4.3
[04:10] <b52laptop> ?
[04:10] <b52laptop> apt-cache search tell me just that there is python2.4
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's version 2.4.4
[04:12] <b52laptop> PuMpErNiCkLe,  and how to install 2.4.3 specially ,, i want to use zope3 and he 'prefer' python2.4.3
[04:12] <b52laptop> ?
[04:14] <b52laptop> er i think that i have to make my own .deb :)
[04:14] <b52laptop> ?
[04:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I'm not sure why he would - 2.4.4 is an important bugfix release to 2.4.3 - but you can get it at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.4/
[04:15] <b52laptop> hm ok
[04:15] <b52laptop> PuMpErNiCkLe,  thanks
[04:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/he/it/
[04:28] <Commander-Crowe> hey
[05:41] <oem> I am trying to intsall Seamonkey but the system will not let me create the new directory, so I created the directory my self but now it won't install to the directory I created, how can I work around this?
[05:45] <gpocentek> oem: in which directory do you want to install it ?
[05:45] <gripir> anyone using a Raptor m2 mouse?
[05:54] <Maximilian1st> Hi gpocentek, should I file a bug report if the restricted modules don't work in feisty?
[05:55] <Maximilian1st> It is related to the https://launchpad.net/bugs/79340 bug which I confirmed.
[05:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79340 in ubiquity "Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller (sk98lin) Hangs Ubiquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[05:55] <Maximilian1st> wow...
[05:57] <yll> hi, someone know how change keyboard from qwerty to azerty ?
[06:03] <noalternative> I screwed up my screen resolution.
[06:04] <noalternative> now it is so large I can't change it back to default.
[06:04] <noalternative> because the settings manager is too large for the screen.
[06:04] <noalternative> I am using a default terminal session.
[06:04] <noalternative> anyone know what I can do?
[06:05] <somerville32> So you're in the desktop with the terminal open?
[06:05] <MagicFab> what' s the imagemagick utility used for screen captures ?
[06:05] <noalternative> yep
[06:05] <MagicFab> ah - import! nevermind :)
[06:05] <noalternative> failsafe terminal
[06:05] <noalternative> I opened gaim from it.
[06:06] <somerville32> try  xrandr -o 1
[06:07] <somerville32> or sorry
[06:07] <somerville32> xrandr -s 0
[06:07] <noalternative> in the failsafe terminal session or in the xfce session?
[06:07] <somerville32> xfce session terminal
[06:18] <hyper_ch> somerville32: how can I resize a partition? gparted?
[06:20] <fxr> hi all, is there a find file/folder function in xubuntu or do i have to install a seperate utility??
[06:21] <hyper_ch> fxr: you have slocate.... first populate the database with:  sudo updatedb
[06:22] <hyper_ch> fxr: once that's done you do:    locate *htm
[06:22] <hyper_ch> fxr: or locate index*
[06:22] <hyper_ch> !slocate
[06:22] <ubotu> slocate: Secure replacement of findutil's locate. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 152 kB
[06:22] <hyper_ch> !locate
[06:22] <ubotu> locate is a command-line utility, but to keep the cache up-to-date you will have to run: sudo updatedb
[06:23] <fxr> ok thanks..guys appreciated
[06:23] <hyper_ch> you're welcome
[06:24] <Commander-Crowe> cinnander?
[06:24] <Commander-Crowe> oops
[06:24] <Commander-Crowe> sorry
[06:24] <Taram> sometimes I have some audio problems with skype ....has anybody similar experinces?
[06:24] <cinnander> hmm?
[06:25] <hyper_ch> hiho taram
[06:25] <Taram> tach hyper_ch
[06:25] <Taram> any idea hyper_ch ?
[06:25] <noalternative> thanks for the help changing my settings back to normal.
[06:26] <noalternative> though they wouldn't hold until I specified default in the display settings.
[06:26] <noalternative> I also saved the session.
[06:26] <hyper_ch> Taram: nope... I can't get my BT headset to run anyway here :) so I load it in vmware windows :)
[06:27] <noalternative> 8-)
[06:27] <Taram> windows sucks hyper_ch ..olle buxe ;)
[06:28] <hyper_ch> Taram: that's the only way for me to get the BT headset running properly
[06:29] <Taram> hm...what a pittty...
[06:32] <Taram> be creativ and figure it out out how it get running... hyper_ch
[06:33] <noalternative> Is there anyway to tell xubuntu my monitor brand so it knows the proper resolutions to use?
[06:34] <TheSheep> noalternative: yes, fill in horizontal and vertical refresh resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:17] <grazie> I'm having some bother my webhost provider. I'm unable to send smtp mail from php (PEAR)
[07:17] <grazie> it fails "unable to connect to smtp server smtp.domain.com:25"
[07:17] <grazie> I suspect there's modsecurity or other stuff that's preventing making a connection.
[07:17] <grazie> System support are being less than helpful. Any ideas on how I could investigate further?
[07:19] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: after I install herd 2... how can I edit the grub.list?
[07:20] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: you mean the /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:20] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: just copy one of the existing entries on your main system, and change the kernel and initrd names, and thr root parameters
[07:21] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: well, after I reboot and install herd2... the menu is changed.. I can't boot up anymore to do those changes
[07:21] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: ah, then edit the menu.lst in herd2 and add your old system
[07:22] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: how? after installation I can't boot anymore
[07:22] <TheSheep> huh?
[07:22] <hyper_ch> I install herd2
[07:22] <hyper_ch> then I can't boot into anything anymore
[07:22] <hyper_ch> neither feisty nor windows
[07:22] <TheSheep> well, use the 'reinstall grub' option from the live cd
[07:23] <hyper_ch> I don't have a livecd
[07:23] <hyper_ch> :(
[07:23] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: alternate cd has it too
[07:23] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: how to access it?
[07:23] <hyper_ch> hmm
[07:24] <TheSheep> there is a 'rescue mode' in the boot menu
[07:24] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ok, I'll try :)
[07:48] <_Shade_> hi there
[07:49] <_Shade_> i've just installed xfce... how can i use it's themes since i can't see any gui tool to configure it
[07:50] <TheSheep> _Shade_: settings->user interface settings
[07:51] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: could it be due to kcontrol that I can't access a few admin things anymore in Xfce?
[07:51] <_Shade_> TheSheep: ah i c.. and where should the theme be located?
[07:51] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: no idea
[07:52] <TheSheep> _Shade_: in ~/.themes/
[07:53] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: do you know the app that defines the default programs in kde (or rather for the kde applications)?
[07:53] <_Shade_> TheSheep: well... i dont have one in my home folder though
[07:53] <TheSheep> _Shade_: then create it
[07:54] <_Shade_> TheSheep: you mean /home/shade/.themes/ right?
[07:55] <TheSheep> _Shade_: yes, if that's your home directory
[07:57] <_Shade_> TheSheep: yes it is but still can't see my theme there
[07:57] <TheSheep> _Shade_: it has to be unpacked
[07:58] <_Shade_> TheSheep: ahhh.... dang :)
[08:00] <_Shade_> TheSheep: still nothing though
[08:01] <TheSheep> _Shade_: it should ocntain a file like this: ~/.themes/name-of-the-theme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[08:05] <_Shade_> well i don't know what can i do with it then
[08:05] <_Shade_> it's http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=51705&PHPSESSID=d25a62d89c8f4a96ec5d0805b901277e
[08:07] <TheSheep> _Shade_: it's a window decoration theme, change it in your window manager settings
[08:10] <_Shade_> TheSheep: i don't have the theme either in kcontrol
[08:10] <TheSheep> settings->window manager settings
[08:10] <TheSheep> _Shade_: xubuntu doesn't have kcontrol
[08:13] <_Shade_> TheSheep: well i had install xubuntu desktop metapackage in kubuntu
[08:13] <TheSheep> _Shade_: kde settings have no impact on xfce
[08:13] <TheSheep> _Shade_: at least shoudn't have
[08:15] <_Shade_> it seems it havent so what should i do? install ubuntu desktop package
[08:16] <TheSheep> no, use the window manager settings from the menu
[08:28] <humbolto> how can I connect/browse smb shares in xfce?
[08:29] <somerville32> What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[08:34] <ELyOKKo> hey aki no hablan espaol ?
[08:34] <somerville32> !es | ELyOKKo
[08:34] <ubotu> ELyOKKo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:58] <eteran> Anyone found a working solution for the Firefox "Restore Previous Session" Problem? That is, when you shutdown/logout with Firefox still running, you will get this annoying message because Firefox thinks it crashed
[09:00] <TheSheep> eteran: because it did crash
[09:00] <TheSheep> eteran: what's thep roblem again?
[09:04] <eteran> Firefox running -> shutdown/logout -> Firefox start -> Firefox thinks it crashed, asks if I want to restore the session or start a new one ... I want to eliminate that last step, its pretty annoying
[09:06] <fxr> hi ive accidently added an applet and ive lost my deskop.. how can i reset the applets to their original state, or is there a file i can inspect so i can remove it that way?
[09:07] <TheSheep> fxr: remove ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml and optionally all other files in that directory
[09:08] <fxr> ok i see it, thanks fella : )
[09:10] <Kraken> Is there an linux/xfce command to load text into the paste buffer for xfce?
[09:22] <fxr> i wanna add the gnome sensors applet to my panels.. i have installed the applet, but i am unable to add it.. is this possible? how so?
[09:30] <hyper_ch> hmmm, the alternate cd is somehow weird
[09:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Kraken: xcb, although it's not installed by default.
[09:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !info xfce4-xfapplet-plugin | fxr
[09:37] <ubotu> xfce4-xfapplet-plugin: Gnome applets plugin for Xfce panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 288 kB
[09:37] <Kraken> 's what aptitude was made for. Thank you PuMpErNiCkLe :)
[09:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np :)
[09:39] <fxr> ahh thats what i am lookin for, thanks PuMpErNiCkLe
[09:39] <Kraken> Or, um, not. Installing it will break x11-common, aptitude says >_<
[09:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hm, that's not cool.
[09:42] <Kraken> I might actually have to open up the files in mousepad *sighs*
[09:57] <somerville32> :)
[09:57] <bigfuzzyjesus> i cant get my nvidia card to work
[09:57] <bigfuzzyjesus> it says no devices detected
[09:57] <bigfuzzyjesus> but first trys to load the intel integrated grafix card
[09:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> hello
[09:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> anyone in here alive
[10:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Have you tried disabling the intel video adapter in the BIOS and/or blacklisting the kernel module for it?  In theory, that should force it to recognize the other video adapter.
[10:16] <somerville32> MagicFab, Thanks for helping out with Xubuntu bugs today :)
[10:34] <grazie> An apt-get question. I want to the latest version of wine which needs libc6 >= 2.4-1
[10:35] <grazie> but I got version 2.3.6. So how do I sort it?
[10:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Probably by not using the latest version of wine.  Upgrading libc is a major step which can cause a lot of problems.
[10:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (Unless you're willing to dist-upgrade to Edgy, that is.)
[10:48] <MagicFab> somerville32, I dig Xubuntu :)
[10:48] <MagicFab> somerville32, I'll be focusing on that and whatever we get @ Canonical support
[10:50] <FifaFrazer> May I ask what browser you are using with xubuntu.. FireFox is the standard, but on this 700 mhz PC, it is very slow.. I've tried Dillo, but it doesnt deal well with graphics. Any suggestions?
[10:53] <MagicFab> epiphany-browser is what I used when I was o Xubuntu daily.
[10:54] <MagicFab> Make sure you also instal epiphany-extensions and mozilla-bonobo
[10:54] <MagicFab> FifaFrazer, ^^
[11:00] <grazie> PuMpErNiCkLe: Thanks for that.
[11:00] <grazie> !dist-upgrade
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <FifaFrazer> hmm, MagicFab , i've just installed epiphany now.. It's a little bit slower than FF though.. FF startup is about 5.5 secs,  and Epi uses about 6.0 secs :D
[11:22] <MagicFab> FifaFrazer, I doubt anything is slower than FF :) check if FF is still running or has any hanging proceses
[11:53] <Jester45> <a href="http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/remember-this/">Remember this?  Motho ke motho ka botho</a> i think its true