[06:00] <qopi> hello jrib
[06:01] <jrib> alright, scrolling was getting tiring
[06:01] <jrib> qopi: you have backups of any important stuff on your system?   I can tell you what I would do to try to sort this out but i don't know that it won't just mess you up further
[06:02] <jrib> up to you if you want to try
[06:03] <qopi> jrib: i've backed up my home directory, yes
[06:03] <jrib> alright
[06:04] <jrib> sudo dpkg -r libwxgtk2.6-0 libxine-main1
[06:04] <qopi> and I think thoreauputic has already made it worse but getting me to purge important packages, so I don't think there is any going back now
[06:05] <jrib> apt-cache policy libisccc0  paste results here
[06:05] <qopi> josef@ubumonkey:~$ sudo dpkg -r libwxgtk2.6-0 libxine-main1
[06:05] <qopi> Password:
[06:05] <qopi> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libwxgtk2.6-0:
[06:05] <qopi>  amule depends on libwxgtk2.6-0 (>= 2.6.1.2ubuntu2).
[06:05] <qopi> dpkg: error processing libwxgtk2.6-0 (--remove):
[06:05] <qopi>  dependency problems - not removing
[06:05] <qopi> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libxine-main1:
[06:05] <qopi>  libxine1c2 depends on libxine-main1.
[06:05] <qopi>  libxine-extracodecs depends on libxine-main1.
[06:05] <qopi>  xine-ui depends on libxine-main1 (>= 1.1.1).
[06:05] <qopi> dpkg: error processing libxine-main1 (--remove):
[06:05] <qopi>  dependency problems - not removing
[06:05] <qopi> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:05] <qopi>  libwxgtk2.6-0
[06:05] <qopi>  libxine-main1
[06:05] <qopi> josef@ubumonkey:~$
[06:05] <jrib> k, when they are this long you should still use apstebin :)
[06:05] <qopi> ok
[06:05] <qopi> want me to try apt-cache policy libisccc0 ?
[06:05] <jrib> yeah
[06:06] <qopi> josef@ubumonkey:~$ apt-cache policy libisccc0
[06:06] <qopi> libisccc0:
[06:06] <qopi>   Installed: 1:9.3.2-2ubuntu1.1
[06:06] <qopi>   Candidate: 1:9.3.2-2ubuntu3
[06:06] <qopi>   Version table:
[06:06] <qopi>      1:9.3.2-2ubuntu3 0
[06:06] <qopi>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[06:06] <qopi>  *** 1:9.3.2-2ubuntu1.1 0
[06:06] <qopi>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:06] <qopi> that too long too?
[06:07] <jrib> that's ok
[06:08] <qopi> so what next ? :)
[06:08] <jrib> qopi: you're on i386?
[06:08] <qopi> yes
[06:08] <qopi> toshiba satellite pro 4600
[06:08] <qopi> p3
[06:08] <qopi> about 700mhz
[06:08] <qopi> 256 ram
[06:08] <jrib> wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/libisccc0_9.3.2-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[06:09] <qopi> done
[06:09] <jrib> sudo dpkg -i libisccc0_9.3.2-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[06:14] <qopi> oooh, it says Setting up which if further than before...
[06:14] <qopi> done :)
[06:14] <qopi> what next?
[06:14] <jrib> ok, now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, pastebin errors
[06:14] <qopi> type: sudo dpkg -i libisccc0_9.3.2-2ubuntu3_i386.deb ?
[06:14] <qopi> oops
[06:14] <qopi> type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:15] <jrib> yep
[06:15] <qopi> ok
[06:16] <jrib> can you think of an example of a semigroup where the left unit and right unit are not the same?
[06:17] <qopi> er, was that a mischan?
[06:17] <qopi> errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2062/
[06:17] <jrib> no
[06:17] <jrib> k, do what it says
[06:18] <qopi> sudo apt-get -f update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, right?
[06:19] <jrib> qopi: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:21] <qopi> ok, looks like that is getting somewhere...
[06:21] <qopi> cool, that went ok
[06:22] <qopi> re-try  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:22] <jrib> yep
[06:22] <qopi> k
[06:22] <jrib> you shouldn't need to update but it won't hurt if you do
[06:25] <qopi> well its busy doing its thing now...
[06:28] <qopi> seems to be progessing ok tho, upgrading 470, 42 newly installed, 4 to remove 41 not upgraded...
[06:28] <jrib> k
[06:29] <jrib> forgot to check if ubuntu-desktop is installed
[06:29] <jrib> make sure you do that
[06:30] <qopi> and I guess the other packages I previously purged too?
[06:31] <qopi> i.e. x-window-system-core libwxgtk2.6-0 ubuntu-desktop libxine-main1 vlc vlc-plugin-alsa wxvlc
[06:31] <jrib> if you have ubuntu-base ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-desktop you should be ok, they'll pull in the other stuff
[06:31] <jrib> oh you don't even need -base
[06:32] <qopi> ok, and I think we did those lib ones earlier with the sudo apt-get -f install
[06:32] <jrib> yeah
[06:36] <jrib> qopi: note that you need to dist-upgrade twice
[06:36] <jrib> to get upstart
[06:36] <jrib> !upgrade
[06:36] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:37] <qopi> jrib: ok, once this finished I'll do dist-upgrade again. to get upstart?
[06:37] <jrib> yes
[06:37] <jrib> assuming this one finishes successfully
[06:40] <qopi> ah, I see, you're referring to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades point 5 under the apt-get procedure
[06:40] <qopi> still, what does "get upstart" mean?
[06:40] <qopi> that program/package that starts up the system?
[06:40] <jrib> yeah
[06:40] <jrib> !upstart
[06:40] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[06:45] <qopi> hmz, had a couple of problems with some of those lib packages, i.e. libisc21 and libdns, perhaps we'll have to do the wget trick on them too once its finished
[07:38] <qopi> hello jrib
[07:39] <qopi> well that has finished now
[07:39] <qopi> 2 errors
[07:39] <qopi> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:39] <qopi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libisc11_1%3a9.3.2-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[07:39] <qopi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdns21_1%3a9.3.2-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[07:39] <qopi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:40] <qopi> shall I try wgeting and dpkging them?
[07:40] <jrib> qopi: is that the full error?
[07:41] <qopi> jrib: yes, well, that is all it says at the end
[07:41] <jrib> qopi: pastebin the whole thing
[07:41] <jrib> qopi: or is this from dist-upgrade?
[07:41] <qopi> yes
[07:41] <qopi> the whole thing is very long indeed
[07:41] <jrib> qopi: sudo apt-get install libisc11   pastebin that
[07:42] <qopi> k...
[07:44] <qopi> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2074/ looks very similar to what we were getting before for that other package
[07:45] <jrib> qopi: yeah, weird.  Go ahead and try wget
[07:46] <qopi> jrib: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/libisc11_9.3.2-2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb I assume?
[07:47] <jrib> I just use packages.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <jrib> that doesn't look right
[07:50] <qopi> yeah, after searching on packages. I found http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/libisc11_9.3.2-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[07:52] <qopi> looking up at the previous errors that seems right to me
[07:53] <qopi> seems to be working so I'll try the other one too...
[07:53] <qopi> yep libisc11 installed
[07:55] <qopi> and now libdns21 installed too :)
[07:56] <qopi> jrib: do you think I should try to install ubuntu-desktop at this stage?
[07:56] <jrib> yes
[07:58] <qopi> ok
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