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mdkeChipzz: so so12:13
mdkehipertracker: try and persevere, maybe there is an answer out there for you. Good luck12:13
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hipertrackerChipzz: ok12:13
Chipzzmdke: I think a good idea might be to make this channel moderated and have a bot that sends a /notice to everyone entering this channel explaining the rules; and automatically voicing people after 5 or 10 seconds so they get the chance to read the rules12:14
alleetkamppeter_: ping?12:14
mdkeChipzz: chilling out would work too. It's easy to point people gracefully towards the right resource12:15
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mdkeespecially at quiet times12:16
Chipzzmdke: depends on how many people think the support thing is actually disturbing12:16
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Chipzzmdke: you're right about the quiet times I guess12:17
mdkeChipzz: it's less disturbing to point someone quietly and helpfully to the support page than make a fuss about it; just takes a few words, and doesn't end up putting anyone off12:17
mdkeit's nice to give people a positive impression about the community12:17
Chipzzprolly right about the community thing too12:17
Chipzzbut I did point him in the right direction afterwards12:18
mdkeyep.12:18
alleetkamppeter_: afaik you know the KDE/cups print system quite.  Any idea how to attack bug 54216 . I don't have access to a printer that can print boderless :(12:18
UbugtuMalone bug 54216 in digikam "DigiKam will not print borderless photos" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5421612:19
Chipzzbut as I (and a couple of other people too) have already pointed out, a channel #ubuntu-advanced or likewise may be a good thing12:19
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wasabi_MOM question. I'm staring at a package which has progressed in Debian, but in feisty has ubuntu patches, and is a previous version of the Debian package. It isn't listed on merges.ubuntu.com.12:23
wasabi_Do I need to poke somebody or something to make it happen?12:23
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wasabi_geeze and the wiki is never a help because it's too easy to find outdated info heh12:26
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bronsonwasabi_: good question.  Ask on ubuntu-motu maybe?12:40
geserwasabi_: which package?12:42
wasabi_jabberd212:42
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geserwasabi_: Debian has only newer versions in experimental12:45
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geserand I guess MoM looks only on unstable12:45
wasabi_Just noticed that12:46
wasabi_Interesting. Looks like the last version unstable had was still earlier than the version we have now12:46
gesermerging is still possible but you have to do it w/o the help of MoM12:47
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NafallozZzZ01:49
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sistpotylamont: can you please give back osgcal for i386? thanks.02:02
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Keybukso, err02:11
Keybukresume from hibernate doesn't work02:11
Keybuklooks like it didn't find the image, and left a corrupted swap02:11
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sistpotyKeybuk: can you route two sync requests (both security bugfixes) through? wordpress (bug #79171) and cacti (bug #80227). thanks02:26
UbugtuMalone bug 79171 in wordpress "please sync wordpress (2.0.6-1) from unstable/main to universe" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7917102:26
UbugtuMalone bug 80227 in cacti "please sync cacti (0.8.6i-3) from unstable/main to universe" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8022702:26
Keybuksistpoty: no, please ask Mithrandir 02:27
sistpotyMithrandir: can you route two sync requests (both security bugfixes) through? wordpress (bug #79171) and cacti (bug #80227). thanks.02:27
sistpotyKeybuk: ok, thanks02:27
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Keybukdo these need flagging to the security team as well?  are bad versions in edgy?02:27
sistpotyKeybuk: both are flagged as security bugs already... 02:28
alex-weeji'm trying to install the build dependencies for libswfdec02:29
alex-weejE: Build-dependencies for libswfdec0.3 could not be satisfied.02:29
alex-weejany ideas?02:29
sistpotyKeybuk: cacti (bug #78453) is nominated for breezy-edgy, but the nomination is not yet confirmed02:29
UbugtuMalone bug 78453 in cacti "cacti remote injection exploit" [Unknown,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7845302:29
sistpotyKeybuk: wordpress is confirmed for dapper to feisty.02:30
sistpoty(bug #78145)02:30
UbugtuMalone bug 78145 in wordpress "XSS and SQL injections" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7814502:30
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Keybuk==26216== Syscall param waitid(infop) points to unaddressable byte(s)05:40
Keybuk==26216==    at 0x40007F2: (within /lib/ld-2.5.so)05:40
Keybuk==26216==    by 0x804A431: test_poll (test_child.c:147)05:40
Keybuk==26216==    by 0x804B351: main (test_child.c:235)05:40
KeybukBOOM!05:40
kylemwossit?05:41
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Keybukkylem: waitid doesn't like receiving NULL as the siginfo_t * :p05:53
kylemheh.05:53
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dholbachgood morning everybody08:51
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dholbachmako: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember still mentions your fax number for signing the CoC09:30
dholbachalso wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberProcess and wiki.ubuntu.com/GrantingMembership confuse a lot of people09:30
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dholbachRiddell: heya - do you have an idea what bug 74151 might be?09:56
UbugtuMalone bug 74151 in gnash "konqueror-plugin-gnash displays no content" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7415109:56
mdkedholbach: mako's fax number isn't working any more? If not, you can file a bug on ubuntu-website and we'll remove it. It would be nice to replace it though so people can still sign the CoC by hand09:59
dholbachmdke: why should they sign it by hand?10:00
mdkedholbach: I did it that way. the reason is that it's the only way to do it properly if you don't have a GPG trust path to you10:01
dholbachDoes Launchpad check that?10:01
mdkeno10:01
mdkeback in the old days that was enforced for ubuntu membership, it's not any more. But I still think it would be nice to retain the possibility for people to sign it with a pen10:01
dholbachI think we have a bunch of ubuntu members who never got their gpg key signed10:02
mdkefor some it might have more significance10:02
dholbachmh10:02
dholbachI just notified mako of that, because he once said "and there's still a page that references to me for signing it by hand..."10:02
mdkeanyway, if the fax number isn't working, it should be removed straight away, we can think about replacing it later10:02
dholbachI don't know if it's still working10:03
mdkeah right10:03
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MithrandirRiddell: can you do the knetworkmanager bits of NetworkRoaming or would you like a patch for it?11:24
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dokoMithrandir: please requeue pyqwt on ia6411:37
Mithrandirdoko: given-back11:38
Mithrandirdoko: can you look into why python-examples is uninstallable (and has been for a while)?11:42
dokoMithrandir: python2.5-examples needs promotion11:44
Mithrandirdoko: ah, promoted11:44
dokoMithrandir: while you are at, could you promote the various java bits as well?11:45
Mithrandirdoko: sure, I'll do promotions too today.11:46
Mithrandiras in, source promotions.11:46
dokook, thanks11:47
Mithrandirthey require actual thought, binary-only promotions don't really.11:47
cjwatsonI was about to have a look, but I have an interview to do soon and really ought to prepare for it11:51
cjwatsonI can look through them later if you like, since I noticed some Java bits in the approved MIR queue yesterday11:52
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bluefoxicy... wow11:52
bluefoxicynetworking sucks.11:52
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bluefoxicyjust a guess.11:53
Mithrandircjwatson: I'm fine doing them, I just finished most of networkroaming.11:54
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iwjSo as I read the UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements, I'm permitted to sign off on MainInclusionReportLibVncServer-dev.  But since (a) I've never done one of these and (b) I'm not entirely disinterested (it's blocking Xen on feisty) I was wondering if someone else would like to cast their eye over it ?11:59
iwjI didn't write the inclusion report although I've just edited it to fix a few links and formatting issues.12:00
iwjAm I allowed to improve the report myself and then approve it ?12:00
dholbachiwj: pitti and keescook would know12:03
iwjHmm, pitti seems offline.12:07
RiddellMithrandir: I'm happy to do them, have you done the changes for the gnome version?12:07
iwjAh, he's on holiday and Kees Cook is in the wrong timezone.12:08
cjwatsonMithrandir: really? that was quick12:08
iwjcjwatson: (Picking on you because you're here:) Do you happen to know the answer to my questions above ?  How should I proceed ?  Improve the report and mail Kees about it ?12:09
cjwatsonKees is also on holiday12:09
iwjOh, damn.12:09
iwjSo he is.12:09
cjwatsonlet me invent some policy on the fly :-)12:09
iwj:-)12:09
cjwatsonPersonally, I'd trust your judgement, and the most important thing is that it's documented so that we know (a) that somebody actually thought about it (b) who12:10
cjwatsonTo some extent the archive team get to decide whom they trust to review stuff for main12:10
cjwatsonImproving the report is not a blocker to approving it yourself, since you're really approving the package, not the report12:11
iwjRight.12:11
iwjOK, I'll do that then.  Thanks.12:11
cjwatsonthe important things to think about are (a) is it so badly designed that we'll be giving our security team a horrible headache (b) are our support department going to be able to deal with issues in it, since they may be contractually obliged to do so?12:12
cjwatsondeal with> or at least be able to figure out when and how to escalate to distro12:13
cjwatsonhowever, we should talk about this at the sprint12:13
fabbionecjwatson: low priority ping for bug #7816112:13
UbugtuMalone bug 78161 in glibc "[sparc]  unable to link against optimized libpthread due to wrong symbols" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7816112:13
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fabbione(needs archive love)12:14
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cjwatsonfabbione: can you either get back to me in an hour after this interview, or else ask Tollef to do it if it's purely an archive decision?12:14
fabbionecjwatson: sure. i will ask Tollef12:14
fabbioneMithrandir: ^^12:14
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MithrandirRiddell: yes.12:17
Mithrandircjwatson: it's absolutely trivial, so yes.12:17
Mithrandirfabbione: it doesn't require SRU intervention, so I can do it as an archive admin.12:18
Mithrandirnow I need to un-gdb my X server and get on with archive admin stuff.12:18
cjwatsonMithrandir: thanks12:19
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fabbioneMithrandir: thanks12:21
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iwjSo when it says `Add the package to a seed, or as a dependency of a package in main ...', does a build-dependency count ?12:33
dholbachiwj: yes, but it needs still to be promoted to main.12:35
iwjIndeed; my next question was whether I need to wait for anastacia to run etc. or if I can just poke an archive admin now.12:36
dholbachiwj: I think cjwatson is your man.12:37
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ograyou need to wait until it shows up afaik12:37
iwjFair enough; from my pov it can wait a bit.12:37
ogra(to make sure germinate has picked up the seed change/dependency)12:38
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ogradholbach, thanks a lot 12:38
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Adri2000Mithrandir: can you approve obconf into edgy-proposed please, there is not much to check, it's just a rebuild12:42
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MithrandirAdri2000: as long as it's on ~ubuntu-archive/+subscribedbugs, I'll get to it.12:49
Adri2000it is12:49
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cjwatsoniwj: we often like to wait for anastacia to run because it saves us having to work out by hand if anything extra is required01:11
cjwatsoniwj: I've corrected the documentation which talked about dependencies to mention build-dependencies too; thanks01:13
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cjwatsonif there's a hurry and/or it's obvious at a casual glance (few dependencies) we can promote without waiting01:13
cjwatsonMithrandir: FWIW I'm OK with you accepting rebuilds into -proposed without explicit SRU-team approval as long as you've checked that that's really the right solution01:14
Mithrandircjwatson: ok.01:14
Treenaksc01:14
cjwatsoni.e. zero-source-change-except-changelog rebuilds01:15
Mithrandirseb128: your libgimme-codec upload never actually ended up in NEW, I've reprocessed it now and it should be done today, I hope.01:17
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bhaleMithrandir: do you have any idea where last-exit_4-0ubuntu2 went?01:22
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Mithrandirbhale: I'll reprocess it01:25
bhaleMithrandir: thank you01:25
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jendaHello folks. Anyone here moderating the ubuntu-devel list?01:26
davmor2I have been going through the untriaged bugs and there seem to be a lot of issues with gparted I was just wondering if there were any plans to update this package?01:26
Mithrandirjenda: yes, all of the distro team has moderation access.01:26
jendaAh, great.01:26
jendaI just sent an email there, could someone please let it through?01:27
jendaI'm not subscribed.01:27
bhaleyou would typically mail ubuntu-devel-discuss01:28
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jendaah01:28
jendaI didn't know that :/01:28
jendaOK, then, could someone please _discard_ that email?01:28
jendaBefore anyone lets it through :)01:29
Mithrandirjenda: the "User feedback: GUI GRUB setup tool" ?01:30
jendayep01:30
jendaI'll resend it to devel-discuss if you remove it.01:30
Mithrandirdiscarded01:33
bhalethanks jenda 01:33
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jendathanks Mithrandir 01:39
jendaresent01:40
iwjcjwatson: Thanks for the explanation.  It can wait.01:40
Mithrandirseb128: libgimme-codec accepted.  FYI.01:41
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cjwatsondavmor2: they're mostly due to integration between ubiquity and gparted, not so much gparted itself; https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-advanced-partitioner documents a plan to switch to a new partitioner instead01:46
cjwatsonsince the issues are really fundamental to using an external partition editor the way we do at the moment01:46
cjwatsonupdating the package would not help, and would in fact probably consume time that could be better focused on the replacement01:46
cjwatson(copied from #ubuntu-bugs where you asked the same question)01:46
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seb128Mithrandir: thank you!01:51
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davmor2thanks cjwatson01:55
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cjwatsondamn, this iMac isn't amd64-capable after all02:12
cjwatsonthought it was Core 2 Duo, but it's just Core Duo02:12
kylemcjwatson, bummer.02:12
kylemhas there been any progress by anyone on being able to write hybrid hfs+ cds02:12
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cjwatsonnot to my knowledge, but who cares, grub works now02:13
cjwatsonso my interest level in that has dropped right off02:13
kylemhehe.02:13
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Mithrandirit requires bootcamp, though, doesn't it?02:15
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kylemyeah.02:15
cjwatsonMithrandir: yes, but all Intel Macs come with that now02:17
Mithrandiroh, ok.02:17
MithrandirI thought you still had to pay extra.02:17
cjwatsonboot camp is three pieces02:17
cjwatsonhttp://refit.sourceforge.net/myths/ has a good summary02:17
cjwatsonthe firmware update is the only bit that matters for thhis02:17
Mithrandirok02:18
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RiddellMithrandir: there's no need to disable anything in network manager in case of using static configuration?02:41
MithrandirRiddell: no, as long as it's done through /etc/network/interfaces, NM will just ignore the device02:41
Riddelloh aye, true02:42
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Mithrandirif it does static configuration some other way, NM will have to be taught how to cope.02:43
Riddellit's the same backends in KDE as in Gnome so it's all good02:44
Mithrandir'k02:44
dholbachmjg59: I just had a look into the libcm update, but it seems to changes interfaces quite a lot - I think I'll let you deal with it. :-)02:51
seb128dholbach: I did libcm 0.1.1 yesterday, what do you want to update?02:52
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seb128dholbach: I told you yesterday evening ;)02:52
dholbachoh... i updated and still have the old one02:52
dholbachseb128: how did you solve the problem?02:52
seb128what problem?02:52
dholbachchanged interfaces02:53
seb128nothing use libcm7 out of spifacity02:53
seb128I didn't care02:53
seb128it's not used02:53
dholbachok02:53
seb128grumpf02:53
seb128launchpad has eaten my upload again02:53
dholbachthat explains a bit02:53
mjg59seb128: Yeah, I got reject mail02:54
mjg59dholbach: I'm on GMT+11 right now02:55
seb128mjg59: oh, why?02:55
seb128the rejected reason02:55
dholbachmjg59: right... I saw pictures of you :)02:55
mjg59seb128: No orig.tar.gz02:55
mjg59dholbach: So IRC is probably not a great way to get at me :)02:55
seb128mjg59: thank you02:55
dholbachmjg59: it still worked ;-)02:55
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mjg59Only because I'm reading mail instead of going to bed02:56
dholbachmjg59: in any case, it was not urgent but I thought I'd (try to) tell you :)02:56
seb128I've uploaded again02:56
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seb128mjg59: who was to the To: from that rejected mail? only you?03:01
mjg59seb128: Not sure - I've deleted it, I'm afraid03:02
seb128mjg59: ok no problem, I was just being curious to know if launchpad didn't mail me or if I didn't get or dropped the mail03:03
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dholbachMithrandir: thanks for the decibel review - uploaded it again (fixed)03:21
cjwatsonseb128: if you don't get a mail regarding an upload, it's best to ping an archive admin; we can reprocess it03:22
cjwatsonseb128: the keyserver interaction problems that are causing dropped uploads are being addressed urgently, though03:22
cprovcjwatson: in fact, the seb128's case wasn't related with the GPG interaction problems. Although, I support your advice for *forgotten* uploads.03:25
cjwatsoncprov: ah, ok03:25
mjg59seb128: The accept mail went to both of us03:28
gnomefreakin feisty debtags and language-selector-qt need to be rebuilt (depends problems) they are conflicting with apt-index-watcher. is this known already?03:28
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seb128mjg59: ok thank you, that's confirmed by my procmail log now, not a launchpad bug03:29
seb128brb03:30
seb128trying new pango03:30
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dholbachwe'll have a meeting about bughelper in #ubuntu-meeting in 6 min - join us if you're interested03:54
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enricognomefreak: apt-index-watcher is not needed anymore03:57
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gnomefreakenrico: its not?04:01
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enricognomefreak: the new libept should build indexes in the home if it needs reindexing04:16
enricognomefreak: I worked a lot to get rid of apt-index-watcher04:16
enricognomefreak: it was causing lots of problems04:16
gnomefreakah ok cool. than it just leaves one issue with it04:17
zuliwj: ping thanks for the help04:18
gnomefreakenrico: read first comment here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapt-front/+bug/80426 04:18
UbugtuMalone bug 80426 in libapt-front "removal of apt-index-watcher leaves startup links" [Undecided,Confirmed]  04:18
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RiddellMithrandir: knetworkmanager uploaded04:25
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iwjzul: NP.04:32
iwjzul: AIUI we're waiting for it to filter through the pipeline now.04:32
zulill upload a new versioin and new kernel by the end off the week04:33
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Nafallozul: XEN?04:37
zulNafallo: yes04:38
Nafallonice :-)04:38
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enricognomefreak: it's normal that a removal (and not a purge) leaves things in /etc05:12
enricognomefreak: dpkg -l|grep -v ^ii will show you with a 'c' in one of the first two characters all the packages you have removed but not purged, and therefore have configuration still around05:13
gnomefreakenrico: just tell him to purge them than?05:14
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enricognomefreak: I'll leave that task to the ubuntu maintainers :)05:17
gnomefreakk05:17
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geserMithrandir: please give-back libapreq2 for all archs. thanks05:33
carlosdholbach: ping05:33
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makomdke, dholbach: the problem isn't that i get the faxes05:38
makomdke, dholbach: the problem is that AFAICT, there's no way to approve signatures sent in by hand05:38
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makomdke, dholbach: so switching to a different number won't really help in this regard05:38
dholbachcarlos: pong05:48
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dokoMithrandir: would you mind promoting stlport5.1 (new upstream version) to main, would be nice for the next OOo upload06:02
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HombreMagiquehi all06:09
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HombreMagiqueis there a kernel patch set of Ubuntu?06:09
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davmor2I have a bit of a problem my 64bit install of feisty just went tits up.  I get rectangles instead of letters except in alt-F1-F6 terminal.  Any Ideas on what I can do06:13
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carlosdholbach: ping (I was disconnected, not sure whether you answered)06:14
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dholbachcarlos: I ponged06:14
carlosdholbach: hi06:14
dholbachhiya06:14
carlosdholbach: are you still the MOTU 'boss'?06:15
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davmor2hello06:15
dholbachcarlos: I work together with other MOTUs if that's the question :)06:15
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HombreMagiqueis there a patch set of Ubuntu kernel?06:15
carlosdholbach: ok, I need to arrange with MOTUs an agreement to accept some translations for universe accepted in Launchpad/Rosetta06:16
carlosdholbach: who should I talk with?06:16
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dholbachcarlos: best to write a mail to ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com06:17
carlosok06:17
carlosdholbach: thanks06:17
dholbachcarlos: I'll approve your mail and auto-accept mails from you06:17
dholbachno problem06:17
davmor2I have a problem with my 64bit install of feisty after the last dist-upgrade I get rectangles instead of letters.  Any ideas on what I can do.  It hasn't effected my 32 bit install at all06:18
dholbachi'm off for a bit now06:20
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slomodavmor2: seems to be a problem with the latest pango or somethnig... i have it too now after upgrading pango ;) well, not all letters but many06:26
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devilsadvocatewhere can i get help for building a package?06:27
carlosdholbach: sent06:28
davmor2no this is all my entire desktop :( I took a screenshot but I don't know whether to report it as a bug if it was something that you guys picked up on and were dealing with.06:30
devilsadvocatei've been trying to make a .deb of something. It refuses to accept my changelog file. Nothing i found online helped06:31
gpocentekdevilsadvocate: join #ubuntu-motu06:31
devilsadvocatethanks gpocentek06:31
HombreMagiquegpocentek do you know where can i get a kernel list patch?06:32
gpocentekHombreMagique: no idea06:33
HombreMagique:(06:34
dholbachcarlos: approved06:38
carlosdholbach: thanks06:39
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mdkemako: this is true, I hadn't really thought of that07:25
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YawnerWho would I contact to get the mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt package moved from Universe to Main in Edgy and/or Dapper? (This has been changed for feisty, but for Edgy and Dapper are still without official Portuguese language support in Firefox, the version int he currently is Portuguese Brazilian).07:42
Yawnerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-firefox-locale-all/+bug/6966307:42
UbugtuMalone bug 69663 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all "firefox "pt" localization" [Undecided,Confirmed]  07:42
mdkeYawner: Martin Pitt or Ian Jackson07:43
Yawneraha ok, thanks07:43
joejaxxMithrandir: ping07:51
Mithrandirjoejaxx: You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.07:51
joejaxxMithrandir: i based the -meta off of the ubuntu-meta07:51
joejaxxMithrandir: the ubuntu-meta package does not contain the full GPL in the tar.gz either07:51
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joejaxxMithrandir: i based ubuntustudio-meta off ubuntu-meta that is07:53
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Tonio_cjwatson: ping ?08:46
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cjwatsonTonio_: pong09:24
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cjwatsonjoejaxx: IMO that's a bug in ubuntu-meta; please file it as one so it doesn't get forgotten09:25
Tonio_cjwatson: hi ! may I ping you concerning this : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/7361709:25
UbugtuMalone bug 73617 in digikam "SRU proposal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  09:25
Tonio_cjwatson: this is my packaging fault, and the error is reported by dozens of people.... I'd like this to be review to provide sru as long as this is possible09:26
cjwatsonTonio_: sorry for the delay on that; see comment in the bug09:29
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Tonio_cjwatson: sure09:30
Tonio_cjwatson: thanks a lot, I'm fixing the changelog and upload09:31
joejaxxcjwatson: alright will do09:34
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hungerAny ideas why pam_mount no longer mounts my encrypted user dirs?09:41
jdongcjwatson, can I make a plea for backports to be processed in the near future?09:42
cjwatsonjdong: ok, I'll deal with the queue this evening09:43
jdongthank you09:43
mdkeMithrandir: cjwatson: I'm waiting on one of you for bug 74555 (but I'm not sure which)09:46
UbugtuMalone bug 74555 in ubuntu-docs "Stable release update" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7455509:46
cjwatsonjdong: to explain the delay, both Scott and I recently got promoted to management, so we have much less archive admin time than before09:47
cjwatsonmdke: probably me09:47
mdkecjwatson: I'd be grateful if you just give the nod :)09:47
cjwatsonoh, no, Tollef really09:47
cjwatsonI'll leave it in my browser anyway so that I deal with it09:47
mdkecjwatson: I think he's waiting for you, I remember a ping on it from him to that effect09:48
mdkecjwatson: thanks, and congrats on promotion :)09:48
cjwatsonhmm, I'll definitely look then09:48
cjwatsonmost people commiserate ;-)09:48
jdongcjwatson, congrats on the promotion :)09:48
mdkeheh, that depends I guess09:48
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LaserJockI didn't think Canonical had management, just slaves ;-)09:49
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cjwatsonjdong: punted through the ones I got done before the meeting (just four), but the rest will have to wait until afterwards09:58
jdongcjwatson: no problem, thanks for your attention :)09:58
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Mithrandirmdke: you're waiting for me, but the diff of what's uploaded doesn't completely match the ok-ed debdiff.  Some line breaks, etc, are different.10:08
cjwatsonI'm happy for you to have discretion on whitespace if it's trivial (i.e. not python :-))10:09
mdkeMithrandir: there were a couple of things that Colin asked me to change as per the bug report, I don't remember any line breaks though...10:10
Mithrandircjwatson: it's sgml, but it makes reading the diff a lot harder.  I spent some time on it a couple of days ago.10:10
cjwatsonoh, if it's making the diff much noisier than it would otherwise be, I agree with you10:11
Mithrandirmdke: I'd be happy to send you the diffs, if that'd be useful.10:11
mdkeMithrandir: ok, thanks10:11
cjwatsonthe diff should be as easy to read as possible - that's an important property10:11
Mithrandirmdke: after the distro team meeting if that's fine with you?10:11
mdkeMithrandir: sure, I'll look tomorrow10:11
Mithrandircjwatson: it's more that I can't just diff the diffs and get $? == 0, so I have to do it by hand.10:11
mdkecjwatson: it's not easy because we need to make text changes sometimes, and docbook isn't necessarily pretty10:11
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mdkeespecially translation updates are not the sort of thing the archive managers can just read (obviously that doesn't necessarily apply in this case, but we'll need to do some translation updates sometimes)10:12
Mithrandirmdke: what's uploaded and what's in the approved debdiff _should_ match, though.10:12
mdkeMithrandir: yeah, I agree. I only changed the changelog, to my recollection, to link to bug reports and so on10:13
Mithrandirmdke: I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just pointing out what I see.10:13
mdkeMithrandir: yes, I'll look at it10:13
slomoMithrandir: is there a known problem with uploads not being accepted or rejected or anything?10:15
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Mithrandirslomo: yes, if you notice it happening, prod me and I'll rescue it.10:15
Mithrandir(with an approximate time and package name)10:16
cjwatsonslomo: it's keyserver interaction problems - being addressed urgently10:16
slomoMithrandir: ok, i uploaded pango1.0 at around :0310:16
Mithrandirslomo: as in ten minutes ago?10:16
slomoMithrandir: yes10:16
cjwatsonthe queue is processed every five minutes, so normally you can expect a reply in that plus mail delay10:18
geserneed all uploads to be rescued manually or will this happen automatically once the problem is fixed?10:20
Mithrandironce the problem's fixed we won't have to rescue them because the won't get lost in the first place.10:21
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geserI mean the uploads in the last minutes/hour(?)10:22
alex-weeji can't get the build dependencies for swfdec... any idea what went wrong? :10:27
geserMithrandir: could you look after the upload of kdesdk (around 21:46 CET) and mod-vhost-hash-alias (around 21:55 CET)?10:27
alex-weejE: Build-dependencies for libswfdec0.3 could not be satisfied.10:27
Riddellgeser: ?10:27
Riddellgeser: what's kdesdk doing?10:27
cjwatsongeser: any that have been lost of late, probably a good idea to rescue them now10:27
cjwatsonwe don't yet have a timescale for the fix10:27
geserRiddell: build for libapr0->libapr1 and libsvn0->libsvn110:28
geserRiddell: rebuild10:28
Riddellgeser: ok, thanks, I have an upload of 3.5.6 for next week but I'll sync it closer to the time10:28
geserRiddell: the rebuild fixes bug #80329 (I only had to change one build-depends)10:30
UbugtuMalone bug 80329 in kdesdk "kdesdk-kio-plugins cannot be installed on Feisty" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032910:30
dokoMithrandir, cjwatson: please can we promote stlport5.1 (all binaries) to main, maybe tonight, so that OOo can build? Once built stlport4.6 can be demoted.10:30
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cjwatsondoko: done10:32
Mithrandirslomo: pango upload rescued.10:32
Mithrandirgeser: both rescued, prod again if you don't get accepted mails.10:32
slomoMithrandir: thanks :)10:32
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slomoMithrandir: still not accepted :/10:48
Mithrandirslomo: we're having problems with the keyserver; they're being worked on, I don't have an ETA but I'll reprocess the sources as soon as it works again.10:54
slomoMithrandir: ok, thanks... just wanted to make sure that everything is fine before i went to bed ;)10:54
Mithrandirslomo: it might not be, but it's on my radar, so I'll reprocess once it has a chance of working.10:55
Mithrandirwhich was now.  Yay.10:55
Mithrandirslomo: there, you should get a mail RSN10:57
slomook, perfect :) thanks again10:57
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geserMithrandir: thanks, the accepted mails have now arrived11:05
Mithrandirgeser: great, thanks.11:05
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geserRiddell: I missed that kdesdk is in main. I've attached a debdiff with my changes to bug #80329.11:09
UbugtuMalone bug 80329 in kdesdk "kdesdk-kio-plugins cannot be installed on Feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8032911:09
geserMithrandir: could you please give-back libapreq2, pysvn and modxslt for all archs. thanks.11:12
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Mithrandirgeser: given-back11:14
Riddellgeser: can you e-mail me that bug jriddell@ubuntu.com so I get it tomorrow morning11:16
geserRiddell: sure11:17
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mdkecjwatson: around still?11:57

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