[12:13] <mdke> Chipzz: so so
[12:13] <mdke> hipertracker: try and persevere, maybe there is an answer out there for you. Good luck
[12:13] <hipertracker> Chipzz: ok
[12:14] <Chipzz> mdke: I think a good idea might be to make this channel moderated and have a bot that sends a /notice to everyone entering this channel explaining the rules; and automatically voicing people after 5 or 10 seconds so they get the chance to read the rules
[12:14] <allee> tkamppeter_: ping?
[12:15] <mdke> Chipzz: chilling out would work too. It's easy to point people gracefully towards the right resource
[12:16] <mdke> especially at quiet times
[12:16] <Chipzz> mdke: depends on how many people think the support thing is actually disturbing
[12:17] <Chipzz> mdke: you're right about the quiet times I guess
[12:17] <mdke> Chipzz: it's less disturbing to point someone quietly and helpfully to the support page than make a fuss about it; just takes a few words, and doesn't end up putting anyone off
[12:17] <mdke> it's nice to give people a positive impression about the community
[12:17] <Chipzz> prolly right about the community thing too
[12:18] <Chipzz> but I did point him in the right direction afterwards
[12:18] <mdke> yep.
[12:18] <allee> tkamppeter_: afaik you know the KDE/cups print system quite.  Any idea how to attack bug 54216 . I don't have access to a printer that can print boderless :(
[12:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 54216 in digikam "DigiKam will not print borderless photos" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54216
[12:19] <Chipzz> but as I (and a couple of other people too) have already pointed out, a channel #ubuntu-advanced or likewise may be a good thing
[12:23] <wasabi_> MOM question. I'm staring at a package which has progressed in Debian, but in feisty has ubuntu patches, and is a previous version of the Debian package. It isn't listed on merges.ubuntu.com.
[12:23] <wasabi_> Do I need to poke somebody or something to make it happen?
[12:26] <wasabi_> geeze and the wiki is never a help because it's too easy to find outdated info heh
[12:40] <bronson> wasabi_: good question.  Ask on ubuntu-motu maybe?
[12:42] <geser> wasabi_: which package?
[12:42] <wasabi_> jabberd2
[12:45] <geser> wasabi_: Debian has only newer versions in experimental
[12:45] <geser> and I guess MoM looks only on unstable
[12:46] <wasabi_> Just noticed that
[12:46] <wasabi_> Interesting. Looks like the last version unstable had was still earlier than the version we have now
[12:47] <geser> merging is still possible but you have to do it w/o the help of MoM
[01:49] <Nafallo> zZzZ
[02:02] <sistpoty> lamont: can you please give back osgcal for i386? thanks.
[02:11] <Keybuk> so, err
[02:11] <Keybuk> resume from hibernate doesn't work
[02:11] <Keybuk> looks like it didn't find the image, and left a corrupted swap
[02:26] <sistpoty> Keybuk: can you route two sync requests (both security bugfixes) through? wordpress (bug #79171) and cacti (bug #80227). thanks
[02:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79171 in wordpress "please sync wordpress (2.0.6-1) from unstable/main to universe" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79171
[02:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80227 in cacti "please sync cacti (0.8.6i-3) from unstable/main to universe" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80227
[02:27] <Keybuk> sistpoty: no, please ask Mithrandir 
[02:27] <sistpoty> Mithrandir: can you route two sync requests (both security bugfixes) through? wordpress (bug #79171) and cacti (bug #80227). thanks.
[02:27] <sistpoty> Keybuk: ok, thanks
[02:27] <Keybuk> do these need flagging to the security team as well?  are bad versions in edgy?
[02:28] <sistpoty> Keybuk: both are flagged as security bugs already... 
[02:29] <alex-weej> i'm trying to install the build dependencies for libswfdec
[02:29] <alex-weej> E: Build-dependencies for libswfdec0.3 could not be satisfied.
[02:29] <alex-weej> any ideas?
[02:29] <sistpoty> Keybuk: cacti (bug #78453) is nominated for breezy-edgy, but the nomination is not yet confirmed
[02:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78453 in cacti "cacti remote injection exploit" [Unknown,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78453
[02:30] <sistpoty> Keybuk: wordpress is confirmed for dapper to feisty.
[02:30] <sistpoty> (bug #78145)
[02:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78145 in wordpress "XSS and SQL injections" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78145
[05:40] <Keybuk> ==26216== Syscall param waitid(infop) points to unaddressable byte(s)
[05:40] <Keybuk> ==26216==    at 0x40007F2: (within /lib/ld-2.5.so)
[05:40] <Keybuk> ==26216==    by 0x804A431: test_poll (test_child.c:147)
[05:40] <Keybuk> ==26216==    by 0x804B351: main (test_child.c:235)
[05:40] <Keybuk> BOOM!
[05:41] <kylem> wossit?
[05:53] <Keybuk> kylem: waitid doesn't like receiving NULL as the siginfo_t * :p
[05:53] <kylem> heh.
[08:51] <dholbach> good morning everybody
[09:30] <dholbach> mako: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember still mentions your fax number for signing the CoC
[09:30] <dholbach> also wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberProcess and wiki.ubuntu.com/GrantingMembership confuse a lot of people
[09:56] <dholbach> Riddell: heya - do you have an idea what bug 74151 might be?
[09:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74151 in gnash "konqueror-plugin-gnash displays no content" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74151
[09:59] <mdke> dholbach: mako's fax number isn't working any more? If not, you can file a bug on ubuntu-website and we'll remove it. It would be nice to replace it though so people can still sign the CoC by hand
[10:00] <dholbach> mdke: why should they sign it by hand?
[10:01] <mdke> dholbach: I did it that way. the reason is that it's the only way to do it properly if you don't have a GPG trust path to you
[10:01] <dholbach> Does Launchpad check that?
[10:01] <mdke> no
[10:01] <mdke> back in the old days that was enforced for ubuntu membership, it's not any more. But I still think it would be nice to retain the possibility for people to sign it with a pen
[10:02] <dholbach> I think we have a bunch of ubuntu members who never got their gpg key signed
[10:02] <mdke> for some it might have more significance
[10:02] <dholbach> mh
[10:02] <dholbach> I just notified mako of that, because he once said "and there's still a page that references to me for signing it by hand..."
[10:02] <mdke> anyway, if the fax number isn't working, it should be removed straight away, we can think about replacing it later
[10:03] <dholbach> I don't know if it's still working
[10:03] <mdke> ah right
[11:24] <Mithrandir> Riddell: can you do the knetworkmanager bits of NetworkRoaming or would you like a patch for it?
[11:37] <doko> Mithrandir: please requeue pyqwt on ia64
[11:38] <Mithrandir> doko: given-back
[11:42] <Mithrandir> doko: can you look into why python-examples is uninstallable (and has been for a while)?
[11:44] <doko> Mithrandir: python2.5-examples needs promotion
[11:44] <Mithrandir> doko: ah, promoted
[11:45] <doko> Mithrandir: while you are at, could you promote the various java bits as well?
[11:46] <Mithrandir> doko: sure, I'll do promotions too today.
[11:46] <Mithrandir> as in, source promotions.
[11:47] <doko> ok, thanks
[11:47] <Mithrandir> they require actual thought, binary-only promotions don't really.
[11:51] <cjwatson> I was about to have a look, but I have an interview to do soon and really ought to prepare for it
[11:52] <cjwatson> I can look through them later if you like, since I noticed some Java bits in the approved MIR queue yesterday
[11:52] <bluefoxicy> ... wow
[11:52] <bluefoxicy> networking sucks.
[11:53] <bluefoxicy> just a guess.
[11:54] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: I'm fine doing them, I just finished most of networkroaming.
[11:59] <iwj> So as I read the UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements, I'm permitted to sign off on MainInclusionReportLibVncServer-dev.  But since (a) I've never done one of these and (b) I'm not entirely disinterested (it's blocking Xen on feisty) I was wondering if someone else would like to cast their eye over it ?
[12:00] <iwj> I didn't write the inclusion report although I've just edited it to fix a few links and formatting issues.
[12:00] <iwj> Am I allowed to improve the report myself and then approve it ?
[12:03] <dholbach> iwj: pitti and keescook would know
[12:07] <iwj> Hmm, pitti seems offline.
[12:07] <Riddell> Mithrandir: I'm happy to do them, have you done the changes for the gnome version?
[12:08] <iwj> Ah, he's on holiday and Kees Cook is in the wrong timezone.
[12:08] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: really? that was quick
[12:09] <iwj> cjwatson: (Picking on you because you're here:) Do you happen to know the answer to my questions above ?  How should I proceed ?  Improve the report and mail Kees about it ?
[12:09] <cjwatson> Kees is also on holiday
[12:09] <iwj> Oh, damn.
[12:09] <iwj> So he is.
[12:09] <cjwatson> let me invent some policy on the fly :-)
[12:09] <iwj> :-)
[12:10] <cjwatson> Personally, I'd trust your judgement, and the most important thing is that it's documented so that we know (a) that somebody actually thought about it (b) who
[12:10] <cjwatson> To some extent the archive team get to decide whom they trust to review stuff for main
[12:11] <cjwatson> Improving the report is not a blocker to approving it yourself, since you're really approving the package, not the report
[12:11] <iwj> Right.
[12:11] <iwj> OK, I'll do that then.  Thanks.
[12:12] <cjwatson> the important things to think about are (a) is it so badly designed that we'll be giving our security team a horrible headache (b) are our support department going to be able to deal with issues in it, since they may be contractually obliged to do so?
[12:13] <cjwatson> deal with> or at least be able to figure out when and how to escalate to distro
[12:13] <cjwatson> however, we should talk about this at the sprint
[12:13] <fabbione> cjwatson: low priority ping for bug #78161
[12:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78161 in glibc "[sparc]  unable to link against optimized libpthread due to wrong symbols" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78161
[12:14] <fabbione> (needs archive love)
[12:14] <cjwatson> fabbione: can you either get back to me in an hour after this interview, or else ask Tollef to do it if it's purely an archive decision?
[12:14] <fabbione> cjwatson: sure. i will ask Tollef
[12:14] <fabbione> Mithrandir: ^^
[12:17] <Mithrandir> Riddell: yes.
[12:17] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: it's absolutely trivial, so yes.
[12:18] <Mithrandir> fabbione: it doesn't require SRU intervention, so I can do it as an archive admin.
[12:18] <Mithrandir> now I need to un-gdb my X server and get on with archive admin stuff.
[12:19] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: thanks
[12:21] <fabbione> Mithrandir: thanks
[12:33] <iwj> So when it says `Add the package to a seed, or as a dependency of a package in main ...', does a build-dependency count ?
[12:35] <dholbach> iwj: yes, but it needs still to be promoted to main.
[12:36] <iwj> Indeed; my next question was whether I need to wait for anastacia to run etc. or if I can just poke an archive admin now.
[12:37] <dholbach> iwj: I think cjwatson is your man.
[12:37] <ogra> you need to wait until it shows up afaik
[12:37] <iwj> Fair enough; from my pov it can wait a bit.
[12:38] <ogra> (to make sure germinate has picked up the seed change/dependency)
[12:38] <ogra> dholbach, thanks a lot 
[12:42] <Adri2000> Mithrandir: can you approve obconf into edgy-proposed please, there is not much to check, it's just a rebuild
[12:49] <Mithrandir> Adri2000: as long as it's on ~ubuntu-archive/+subscribedbugs, I'll get to it.
[12:49] <Adri2000> it is
[01:11] <cjwatson> iwj: we often like to wait for anastacia to run because it saves us having to work out by hand if anything extra is required
[01:13] <cjwatson> iwj: I've corrected the documentation which talked about dependencies to mention build-dependencies too; thanks
[01:13] <cjwatson> if there's a hurry and/or it's obvious at a casual glance (few dependencies) we can promote without waiting
[01:14] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: FWIW I'm OK with you accepting rebuilds into -proposed without explicit SRU-team approval as long as you've checked that that's really the right solution
[01:14] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: ok.
[01:14] <Treenaks> c
[01:15] <cjwatson> i.e. zero-source-change-except-changelog rebuilds
[01:17] <Mithrandir> seb128: your libgimme-codec upload never actually ended up in NEW, I've reprocessed it now and it should be done today, I hope.
[01:22] <bhale> Mithrandir: do you have any idea where last-exit_4-0ubuntu2 went?
[01:25] <Mithrandir> bhale: I'll reprocess it
[01:25] <bhale> Mithrandir: thank you
[01:26] <jenda> Hello folks. Anyone here moderating the ubuntu-devel list?
[01:26] <davmor2> I have been going through the untriaged bugs and there seem to be a lot of issues with gparted I was just wondering if there were any plans to update this package?
[01:26] <Mithrandir> jenda: yes, all of the distro team has moderation access.
[01:26] <jenda> Ah, great.
[01:27] <jenda> I just sent an email there, could someone please let it through?
[01:27] <jenda> I'm not subscribed.
[01:28] <bhale> you would typically mail ubuntu-devel-discuss
[01:28] <jenda> ah
[01:28] <jenda> I didn't know that :/
[01:28] <jenda> OK, then, could someone please _discard_ that email?
[01:29] <jenda> Before anyone lets it through :)
[01:30] <Mithrandir> jenda: the "User feedback: GUI GRUB setup tool" ?
[01:30] <jenda> yep
[01:30] <jenda> I'll resend it to devel-discuss if you remove it.
[01:33] <Mithrandir> discarded
[01:33] <bhale> thanks jenda 
[01:39] <jenda> thanks Mithrandir 
[01:40] <jenda> resent
[01:40] <iwj> cjwatson: Thanks for the explanation.  It can wait.
[01:41] <Mithrandir> seb128: libgimme-codec accepted.  FYI.
[01:46] <cjwatson> davmor2: they're mostly due to integration between ubiquity and gparted, not so much gparted itself; https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-advanced-partitioner documents a plan to switch to a new partitioner instead
[01:46] <cjwatson> since the issues are really fundamental to using an external partition editor the way we do at the moment
[01:46] <cjwatson> updating the package would not help, and would in fact probably consume time that could be better focused on the replacement
[01:46] <cjwatson> (copied from #ubuntu-bugs where you asked the same question)
[01:51] <seb128> Mithrandir: thank you!
[01:55] <davmor2> thanks cjwatson
[02:12] <cjwatson> damn, this iMac isn't amd64-capable after all
[02:12] <cjwatson> thought it was Core 2 Duo, but it's just Core Duo
[02:12] <kylem> cjwatson, bummer.
[02:12] <kylem> has there been any progress by anyone on being able to write hybrid hfs+ cds
[02:13] <cjwatson> not to my knowledge, but who cares, grub works now
[02:13] <cjwatson> so my interest level in that has dropped right off
[02:13] <kylem> hehe.
[02:15] <Mithrandir> it requires bootcamp, though, doesn't it?
[02:15] <kylem> yeah.
[02:17] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: yes, but all Intel Macs come with that now
[02:17] <Mithrandir> oh, ok.
[02:17] <Mithrandir> I thought you still had to pay extra.
[02:17] <cjwatson> boot camp is three pieces
[02:17] <cjwatson> http://refit.sourceforge.net/myths/ has a good summary
[02:17] <cjwatson> the firmware update is the only bit that matters for thhis
[02:18] <Mithrandir> ok
[02:41] <Riddell> Mithrandir: there's no need to disable anything in network manager in case of using static configuration?
[02:41] <Mithrandir> Riddell: no, as long as it's done through /etc/network/interfaces, NM will just ignore the device
[02:42] <Riddell> oh aye, true
[02:43] <Mithrandir> if it does static configuration some other way, NM will have to be taught how to cope.
[02:44] <Riddell> it's the same backends in KDE as in Gnome so it's all good
[02:44] <Mithrandir> 'k
[02:51] <dholbach> mjg59: I just had a look into the libcm update, but it seems to changes interfaces quite a lot - I think I'll let you deal with it. :-)
[02:52] <seb128> dholbach: I did libcm 0.1.1 yesterday, what do you want to update?
[02:52] <seb128> dholbach: I told you yesterday evening ;)
[02:52] <dholbach> oh... i updated and still have the old one
[02:52] <dholbach> seb128: how did you solve the problem?
[02:52] <seb128> what problem?
[02:53] <dholbach> changed interfaces
[02:53] <seb128> nothing use libcm7 out of spifacity
[02:53] <seb128> I didn't care
[02:53] <seb128> it's not used
[02:53] <dholbach> ok
[02:53] <seb128> grumpf
[02:53] <seb128> launchpad has eaten my upload again
[02:53] <dholbach> that explains a bit
[02:54] <mjg59> seb128: Yeah, I got reject mail
[02:55] <mjg59> dholbach: I'm on GMT+11 right now
[02:55] <seb128> mjg59: oh, why?
[02:55] <seb128> the rejected reason
[02:55] <dholbach> mjg59: right... I saw pictures of you :)
[02:55] <mjg59> seb128: No orig.tar.gz
[02:55] <mjg59> dholbach: So IRC is probably not a great way to get at me :)
[02:55] <seb128> mjg59: thank you
[02:55] <dholbach> mjg59: it still worked ;-)
[02:56] <mjg59> Only because I'm reading mail instead of going to bed
[02:56] <dholbach> mjg59: in any case, it was not urgent but I thought I'd (try to) tell you :)
[02:56] <seb128> I've uploaded again
[03:01] <seb128> mjg59: who was to the To: from that rejected mail? only you?
[03:02] <mjg59> seb128: Not sure - I've deleted it, I'm afraid
[03:03] <seb128> mjg59: ok no problem, I was just being curious to know if launchpad didn't mail me or if I didn't get or dropped the mail
[03:21] <dholbach> Mithrandir: thanks for the decibel review - uploaded it again (fixed)
[03:22] <cjwatson> seb128: if you don't get a mail regarding an upload, it's best to ping an archive admin; we can reprocess it
[03:22] <cjwatson> seb128: the keyserver interaction problems that are causing dropped uploads are being addressed urgently, though
[03:25] <cprov> cjwatson: in fact, the seb128's case wasn't related with the GPG interaction problems. Although, I support your advice for *forgotten* uploads.
[03:25] <cjwatson> cprov: ah, ok
[03:28] <mjg59> seb128: The accept mail went to both of us
[03:28] <gnomefreak> in feisty debtags and language-selector-qt need to be rebuilt (depends problems) they are conflicting with apt-index-watcher. is this known already?
[03:29] <seb128> mjg59: ok thank you, that's confirmed by my procmail log now, not a launchpad bug
[03:30] <seb128> brb
[03:30] <seb128> trying new pango
[03:54] <dholbach> we'll have a meeting about bughelper in #ubuntu-meeting in 6 min - join us if you're interested
[03:57] <enrico> gnomefreak: apt-index-watcher is not needed anymore
[04:01] <gnomefreak> enrico: its not?
[04:16] <enrico> gnomefreak: the new libept should build indexes in the home if it needs reindexing
[04:16] <enrico> gnomefreak: I worked a lot to get rid of apt-index-watcher
[04:16] <enrico> gnomefreak: it was causing lots of problems
[04:17] <gnomefreak> ah ok cool. than it just leaves one issue with it
[04:18] <zul> iwj: ping thanks for the help
[04:18] <gnomefreak> enrico: read first comment here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapt-front/+bug/80426 
[04:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80426 in libapt-front "removal of apt-index-watcher leaves startup links" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[04:25] <Riddell> Mithrandir: knetworkmanager uploaded
[04:32] <iwj> zul: NP.
[04:32] <iwj> zul: AIUI we're waiting for it to filter through the pipeline now.
[04:33] <zul> ill upload a new versioin and new kernel by the end off the week
[04:37] <Nafallo> zul: XEN?
[04:38] <zul> Nafallo: yes
[04:38] <Nafallo> nice :-)
[05:12] <enrico> gnomefreak: it's normal that a removal (and not a purge) leaves things in /etc
[05:13] <enrico> gnomefreak: dpkg -l|grep -v ^ii will show you with a 'c' in one of the first two characters all the packages you have removed but not purged, and therefore have configuration still around
[05:14] <gnomefreak> enrico: just tell him to purge them than?
[05:17] <enrico> gnomefreak: I'll leave that task to the ubuntu maintainers :)
[05:17] <gnomefreak> k
[05:33] <geser> Mithrandir: please give-back libapreq2 for all archs. thanks
[05:33] <carlos> dholbach: ping
[05:38] <mako> mdke, dholbach: the problem isn't that i get the faxes
[05:38] <mako> mdke, dholbach: the problem is that AFAICT, there's no way to approve signatures sent in by hand
[05:38] <mako> mdke, dholbach: so switching to a different number won't really help in this regard
[05:48] <dholbach> carlos: pong
[06:02] <doko> Mithrandir: would you mind promoting stlport5.1 (new upstream version) to main, would be nice for the next OOo upload
[06:09] <HombreMagique> hi all
[06:09] <HombreMagique> is there a kernel patch set of Ubuntu?
[06:13] <davmor2> I have a bit of a problem my 64bit install of feisty just went tits up.  I get rectangles instead of letters except in alt-F1-F6 terminal.  Any Ideas on what I can do
[06:14] <carlos> dholbach: ping (I was disconnected, not sure whether you answered)
[06:14] <dholbach> carlos: I ponged
[06:14] <carlos> dholbach: hi
[06:14] <dholbach> hiya
[06:15] <carlos> dholbach: are you still the MOTU 'boss'?
[06:15] <davmor2> hello
[06:15] <dholbach> carlos: I work together with other MOTUs if that's the question :)
[06:15] <HombreMagique> is there a patch set of Ubuntu kernel?
[06:16] <carlos> dholbach: ok, I need to arrange with MOTUs an agreement to accept some translations for universe accepted in Launchpad/Rosetta
[06:16] <carlos> dholbach: who should I talk with?
[06:17] <dholbach> carlos: best to write a mail to ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <carlos> ok
[06:17] <carlos> dholbach: thanks
[06:17] <dholbach> carlos: I'll approve your mail and auto-accept mails from you
[06:17] <dholbach> no problem
[06:18] <davmor2> I have a problem with my 64bit install of feisty after the last dist-upgrade I get rectangles instead of letters.  Any ideas on what I can do.  It hasn't effected my 32 bit install at all
[06:20] <dholbach> i'm off for a bit now
[06:26] <slomo> davmor2: seems to be a problem with the latest pango or somethnig... i have it too now after upgrading pango ;) well, not all letters but many
[06:27] <devilsadvocate> where can i get help for building a package?
[06:28] <carlos> dholbach: sent
[06:30] <davmor2> no this is all my entire desktop :( I took a screenshot but I don't know whether to report it as a bug if it was something that you guys picked up on and were dealing with.
[06:31] <devilsadvocate> i've been trying to make a .deb of something. It refuses to accept my changelog file. Nothing i found online helped
[06:31] <gpocentek> devilsadvocate: join #ubuntu-motu
[06:31] <devilsadvocate> thanks gpocentek
[06:32] <HombreMagique> gpocentek do you know where can i get a kernel list patch?
[06:33] <gpocentek> HombreMagique: no idea
[06:34] <HombreMagique> :(
[06:38] <dholbach> carlos: approved
[06:39] <carlos> dholbach: thanks
[07:25] <mdke> mako: this is true, I hadn't really thought of that
[07:42] <Yawner> Who would I contact to get the mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt package moved from Universe to Main in Edgy and/or Dapper? (This has been changed for feisty, but for Edgy and Dapper are still without official Portuguese language support in Firefox, the version int he currently is Portuguese Brazilian).
[07:42] <Yawner> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-firefox-locale-all/+bug/69663
[07:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69663 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all "firefox "pt" localization" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[07:43] <mdke> Yawner: Martin Pitt or Ian Jackson
[07:43] <Yawner> aha ok, thanks
[07:51] <joejaxx> Mithrandir: ping
[07:51] <Mithrandir> joejaxx: You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.
[07:51] <joejaxx> Mithrandir: i based the -meta off of the ubuntu-meta
[07:51] <joejaxx> Mithrandir: the ubuntu-meta package does not contain the full GPL in the tar.gz either
[07:53] <joejaxx> Mithrandir: i based ubuntustudio-meta off ubuntu-meta that is
[08:46] <Tonio_> cjwatson: ping ?
[09:24] <cjwatson> Tonio_: pong
[09:25] <cjwatson> joejaxx: IMO that's a bug in ubuntu-meta; please file it as one so it doesn't get forgotten
[09:25] <Tonio_> cjwatson: hi ! may I ping you concerning this : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/73617
[09:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73617 in digikam "SRU proposal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[09:26] <Tonio_> cjwatson: this is my packaging fault, and the error is reported by dozens of people.... I'd like this to be review to provide sru as long as this is possible
[09:29] <cjwatson> Tonio_: sorry for the delay on that; see comment in the bug
[09:30] <Tonio_> cjwatson: sure
[09:31] <Tonio_> cjwatson: thanks a lot, I'm fixing the changelog and upload
[09:34] <joejaxx> cjwatson: alright will do
[09:41] <hunger> Any ideas why pam_mount no longer mounts my encrypted user dirs?
[09:42] <jdong> cjwatson, can I make a plea for backports to be processed in the near future?
[09:43] <cjwatson> jdong: ok, I'll deal with the queue this evening
[09:43] <jdong> thank you
[09:46] <mdke> Mithrandir: cjwatson: I'm waiting on one of you for bug 74555 (but I'm not sure which)
[09:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74555 in ubuntu-docs "Stable release update" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74555
[09:47] <cjwatson> jdong: to explain the delay, both Scott and I recently got promoted to management, so we have much less archive admin time than before
[09:47] <cjwatson> mdke: probably me
[09:47] <mdke> cjwatson: I'd be grateful if you just give the nod :)
[09:47] <cjwatson> oh, no, Tollef really
[09:47] <cjwatson> I'll leave it in my browser anyway so that I deal with it
[09:48] <mdke> cjwatson: I think he's waiting for you, I remember a ping on it from him to that effect
[09:48] <mdke> cjwatson: thanks, and congrats on promotion :)
[09:48] <cjwatson> hmm, I'll definitely look then
[09:48] <cjwatson> most people commiserate ;-)
[09:48] <jdong> cjwatson, congrats on the promotion :)
[09:48] <mdke> heh, that depends I guess
[09:49] <LaserJock> I didn't think Canonical had management, just slaves ;-)
[09:58] <cjwatson> jdong: punted through the ones I got done before the meeting (just four), but the rest will have to wait until afterwards
[09:58] <jdong> cjwatson: no problem, thanks for your attention :)
[10:08] <Mithrandir> mdke: you're waiting for me, but the diff of what's uploaded doesn't completely match the ok-ed debdiff.  Some line breaks, etc, are different.
[10:09] <cjwatson> I'm happy for you to have discretion on whitespace if it's trivial (i.e. not python :-))
[10:10] <mdke> Mithrandir: there were a couple of things that Colin asked me to change as per the bug report, I don't remember any line breaks though...
[10:10] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: it's sgml, but it makes reading the diff a lot harder.  I spent some time on it a couple of days ago.
[10:11] <cjwatson> oh, if it's making the diff much noisier than it would otherwise be, I agree with you
[10:11] <Mithrandir> mdke: I'd be happy to send you the diffs, if that'd be useful.
[10:11] <mdke> Mithrandir: ok, thanks
[10:11] <cjwatson> the diff should be as easy to read as possible - that's an important property
[10:11] <Mithrandir> mdke: after the distro team meeting if that's fine with you?
[10:11] <mdke> Mithrandir: sure, I'll look tomorrow
[10:11] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: it's more that I can't just diff the diffs and get $? == 0, so I have to do it by hand.
[10:11] <mdke> cjwatson: it's not easy because we need to make text changes sometimes, and docbook isn't necessarily pretty
[10:12] <mdke> especially translation updates are not the sort of thing the archive managers can just read (obviously that doesn't necessarily apply in this case, but we'll need to do some translation updates sometimes)
[10:12] <Mithrandir> mdke: what's uploaded and what's in the approved debdiff _should_ match, though.
[10:13] <mdke> Mithrandir: yeah, I agree. I only changed the changelog, to my recollection, to link to bug reports and so on
[10:13] <Mithrandir> mdke: I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just pointing out what I see.
[10:13] <mdke> Mithrandir: yes, I'll look at it
[10:15] <slomo> Mithrandir: is there a known problem with uploads not being accepted or rejected or anything?
[10:15] <Mithrandir> slomo: yes, if you notice it happening, prod me and I'll rescue it.
[10:16] <Mithrandir> (with an approximate time and package name)
[10:16] <cjwatson> slomo: it's keyserver interaction problems - being addressed urgently
[10:16] <slomo> Mithrandir: ok, i uploaded pango1.0 at around :03
[10:16] <Mithrandir> slomo: as in ten minutes ago?
[10:16] <slomo> Mithrandir: yes
[10:18] <cjwatson> the queue is processed every five minutes, so normally you can expect a reply in that plus mail delay
[10:20] <geser> need all uploads to be rescued manually or will this happen automatically once the problem is fixed?
[10:21] <Mithrandir> once the problem's fixed we won't have to rescue them because the won't get lost in the first place.
[10:22] <geser> I mean the uploads in the last minutes/hour(?)
[10:27] <alex-weej> i can't get the build dependencies for swfdec... any idea what went wrong? :
[10:27] <geser> Mithrandir: could you look after the upload of kdesdk (around 21:46 CET) and mod-vhost-hash-alias (around 21:55 CET)?
[10:27] <alex-weej> E: Build-dependencies for libswfdec0.3 could not be satisfied.
[10:27] <Riddell> geser: ?
[10:27] <Riddell> geser: what's kdesdk doing?
[10:27] <cjwatson> geser: any that have been lost of late, probably a good idea to rescue them now
[10:27] <cjwatson> we don't yet have a timescale for the fix
[10:28] <geser> Riddell: build for libapr0->libapr1 and libsvn0->libsvn1
[10:28] <geser> Riddell: rebuild
[10:28] <Riddell> geser: ok, thanks, I have an upload of 3.5.6 for next week but I'll sync it closer to the time
[10:30] <geser> Riddell: the rebuild fixes bug #80329 (I only had to change one build-depends)
[10:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80329 in kdesdk "kdesdk-kio-plugins cannot be installed on Feisty" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80329
[10:30] <doko> Mithrandir, cjwatson: please can we promote stlport5.1 (all binaries) to main, maybe tonight, so that OOo can build? Once built stlport4.6 can be demoted.
[10:32] <cjwatson> doko: done
[10:32] <Mithrandir> slomo: pango upload rescued.
[10:32] <Mithrandir> geser: both rescued, prod again if you don't get accepted mails.
[10:32] <slomo> Mithrandir: thanks :)
[10:48] <slomo> Mithrandir: still not accepted :/
[10:54] <Mithrandir> slomo: we're having problems with the keyserver; they're being worked on, I don't have an ETA but I'll reprocess the sources as soon as it works again.
[10:54] <slomo> Mithrandir: ok, thanks... just wanted to make sure that everything is fine before i went to bed ;)
[10:55] <Mithrandir> slomo: it might not be, but it's on my radar, so I'll reprocess once it has a chance of working.
[10:55] <Mithrandir> which was now.  Yay.
[10:57] <Mithrandir> slomo: there, you should get a mail RSN
[10:57] <slomo> ok, perfect :) thanks again
[11:05] <geser> Mithrandir: thanks, the accepted mails have now arrived
[11:05] <Mithrandir> geser: great, thanks.
[11:09] <geser> Riddell: I missed that kdesdk is in main. I've attached a debdiff with my changes to bug #80329.
[11:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80329 in kdesdk "kdesdk-kio-plugins cannot be installed on Feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80329
[11:12] <geser> Mithrandir: could you please give-back libapreq2, pysvn and modxslt for all archs. thanks.
[11:14] <Mithrandir> geser: given-back
[11:16] <Riddell> geser: can you e-mail me that bug jriddell@ubuntu.com so I get it tomorrow morning
[11:17] <geser> Riddell: sure
[11:57] <mdke> cjwatson: around still?