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forbin117 | Hi, I have a question about saa7134 support, and wether I need to compile a new kernel to get it or not? | 05:12 |
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jes-o-mat | kylem: the backported patch from Cedric Schieli does not work for my machine :/ | 11:13 |
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Mithrandir | zul: xen-source ftbfs on i386 | 11:50 |
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zul | Mithrandir: already have a fix | 01:05 |
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Nafallo | zul_: I don't think xen-image-2.6.19-1-generic-amd64 is for "Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium 4 machines" to be honest :-) | 02:21 |
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Nafallo | morning BenC :-) | 02:31 |
BenC | good morning | 02:31 |
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zul_ | Nafallo: i know will be fixed in the next upload | 03:18 |
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jes-o-mat | kylem: any news on the kernel image? | 04:41 |
kylem | ... i told you, i have no idea what patch will fix it, you're going to have to experiment. i can't just take a whole new driver for -security... | 04:42 |
kylem | i can guess and respin you one this afternoon if you'd like... but it would be more helpful if it can be narrowed down. | 04:46 |
jes-o-mat | kylem: I'm gonna try to work out some things first | 04:48 |
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jes-o-mat | kylem: using the suggested patches from Cedric Schieli I get the following rejects: http://jesusch.de/~jesusch/tmp/rejects/ | 05:05 |
jes-o-mat | I think his work was based on an earlier version, that did not include your changes you made on the repo ~6 days ago | 05:06 |
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jes-o-mat | hi olifante :) | 06:21 |
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fabbione | kylem: ping? | 08:32 |
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kylem | fabbione, yo | 09:08 |
kylem | fabbione, sorry, was eating lunch | 09:08 |
fabbione | kylem: no problem.. can you please investigate why once again .20 the hpt366 module is missing from sparc udebs? | 09:09 |
kylem | in a bit, sure. | 09:12 |
fabbione | and can you make sure is there again by the next upload? | 09:14 |
kylem | no, ben would only be able to say that. | 09:15 |
fabbione | i could just upload it... | 09:20 |
fabbione | bu then it would go async with git | 09:20 |
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zul | whee...going to hockey game tonight | 09:46 |
kylem | fabbione, ok. i'll push it to our shared git repository and ping ben. | 10:08 |
fabbione | kylem: thanks.. | 10:09 |
kylem | will turn up in ide-modules | 10:09 |
fabbione | danke | 10:09 |
kylem | fabbione, it would be helpful to have someone run automated diffs of /lib/modules between all 5 arches | 10:09 |
fabbione | kylem: script it.. there are mirrors of archive on roockery or chinstrap | 10:10 |
fabbione | i used to do that at my time | 10:10 |
kylem | heh. i have enough work to do atm. | 10:10 |
lifeless | hmm, no benC | 10:10 |
kylem | lifeless, he's travelling atm. | 10:10 |
lifeless | ah | 10:10 |
kylem | lifeless, (to london for the osdl wireless summit) | 10:10 |
lifeless | so remember that ipsets discussion at the start of the week ? | 10:10 |
kylem | yes. | 10:11 |
lifeless | turns out that it isn't able to be built fully externally without lots of gymnastics | 10:12 |
lifeless | it needs an iptables rebuild with a makefile option changed, and a new kernel header installed | 10:12 |
kylem | eh? | 10:12 |
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kylem | i don't see why needing a kernel header installed means it needs patching... sounds like they aren't trying hard enough. ;P | 10:14 |
lifeless | hmm | 10:14 |
lifeless | perhaps I'm using the wrong terms :) | 10:14 |
lifeless | to get ipsets working you need to: | 10:14 |
lifeless | build the module [can do trivially with kernel headers installed] | 10:14 |
lifeless | install the modules extra kernel header | 10:15 |
lifeless | patch the iptables deb source trivially and rebuild | 10:15 |
kylem | oh. | 10:15 |
kylem | ok. my bad, i thought you meant we needed to patch the kernel. | 10:15 |
lifeless | FSVO patch. We do need to install an extra header into the space the kernel headers go | 10:16 |
lifeless | anyhow, this means that ipsets will need its own copy of iptables built differently, unless we make ipsets be on by default | 10:16 |
kylem | couple choices... | 10:17 |
kylem | could build iptables in ipsets and divert it... | 10:17 |
kylem | or could just make it the default as you said. | 10:17 |
lifeless | so I'm here to whine and plead for ipsets to be the default :) | 10:18 |
kylem | i dunno if i agree with that, not that my voice is really worth much. | 10:18 |
Mithrandir | what's ipsets? Like iptables, only rewritten? | 10:19 |
lifeless | Mithrandir: its an iptables extension for handling very large or very dynamic groups of ip addresses | 10:19 |
lifeless | kylem: well as one of the 2 kernel dudes, your voice counts heaps | 10:19 |
lifeless | kylem: so if you say 'build another iptables binary and divery' -> will do so | 10:19 |
kylem | not really... | 10:19 |
kylem | my problem with it is, it seems to have been written a long time ago... and still not merged. | 10:20 |
kylem | so clearly either something is wrong with it... or... something.. | 10:20 |
lifeless | kylem: ok, I'll get Jerub to ask around about that aspect | 10:20 |
lifeless | Mithrandir: with ipsets you create a match on set inclusion/exclusion, then add and remove ips from the set | 10:21 |
kylem | lifeless, otoh it doesn't seem like it could make a big impact, my concerns are mostly from the maintainability/security aspect. | 10:21 |
lifeless | thats fine, I'll ask. I have to run now, thanks for the chat | 10:22 |
kylem | ok. cheers. | 10:23 |
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[g2] | is there much kernel development on the 2.17 (edgy) kernel or is it mostly Feisty (2.6.20) ? | 11:54 |
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crimsun | [g2] : no. | 12:02 |
crimsun | (for the former, that is. For the latter, yes.) | 12:02 |
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