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NafallozZzZ01:49
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forbin117Hi, I have a question about saa7134 support, and wether I need to compile a new kernel to get it or not?05:12
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jes-o-matkylem: the backported patch from Cedric Schieli does not work for my machine :/11:13
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Mithrandirzul: xen-source ftbfs on i38611:50
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zulMithrandir: already have a fix 01:05
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Nafallozul_: I don't think xen-image-2.6.19-1-generic-amd64 is for "Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium 4 machines" to be honest :-)02:21
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Nafallomorning BenC :-)02:31
BenCgood morning02:31
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zul_Nafallo: i know will be fixed in the next upload03:18
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jes-o-matkylem: any news on the kernel image?04:41
kylem... i told you, i have no idea what patch will fix it, you're going to have to experiment. i can't just take a whole new driver for -security...04:42
kylemi can guess and respin you one this afternoon if you'd like... but it would be more helpful if it can be narrowed down.04:46
jes-o-matkylem: I'm gonna try to work out some things first04:48
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jes-o-matkylem: using the suggested patches from Cedric Schieli I get the following rejects: http://jesusch.de/~jesusch/tmp/rejects/05:05
jes-o-matI think his work was based on an earlier version, that did not include your changes you made on the repo ~6 days ago05:06
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jes-o-mathi olifante :)06:21
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fabbionekylem: ping?08:32
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kylemfabbione, yo09:08
kylemfabbione, sorry, was eating lunch09:08
fabbionekylem: no problem.. can you please investigate why once again .20 the hpt366 module is missing from sparc udebs?09:09
kylemin a bit, sure.09:12
fabbioneand can you make sure is there again by the next upload?09:14
kylemno, ben would only be able to say that.09:15
fabbionei could just upload it...09:20
fabbionebu then it would go async with git09:20
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zulwhee...going to hockey game tonight09:46
kylemfabbione, ok. i'll push it to our shared git repository and ping ben.10:08
fabbionekylem: thanks..10:09
kylemwill turn up in ide-modules10:09
fabbionedanke10:09
kylemfabbione, it would be helpful to have someone run automated diffs of /lib/modules between all 5 arches10:09
fabbionekylem: script it.. there are mirrors of archive on roockery or chinstrap10:10
fabbionei used to do that at my time10:10
kylemheh. i have enough work to do atm.10:10
lifelesshmm, no benC10:10
kylemlifeless, he's travelling atm.10:10
lifelessah10:10
kylemlifeless, (to london for the osdl wireless summit)10:10
lifelessso remember that ipsets discussion at the start of the week ?10:10
kylemyes.10:11
lifelessturns out that it isn't able to be built fully externally without lots of gymnastics10:12
lifelessit needs an iptables rebuild with a makefile option changed, and a new kernel header installed10:12
kylemeh?10:12
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kylemi don't see why needing a kernel header installed means it needs patching... sounds like they aren't trying hard enough. ;P10:14
lifelesshmm10:14
lifelessperhaps I'm using the wrong terms :)10:14
lifelessto get ipsets working you need to:10:14
lifelessbuild the module [can do trivially with kernel headers installed] 10:14
lifelessinstall the modules extra kernel header 10:15
lifelesspatch the iptables deb source trivially and rebuild10:15
kylemoh.10:15
kylemok. my bad, i thought you meant we needed to patch the kernel.10:15
lifelessFSVO patch. We do need to install an extra header into the space the kernel headers go10:16
lifelessanyhow, this means that ipsets will need its own copy of iptables built differently, unless we make ipsets be on by default10:16
kylemcouple choices...10:17
kylemcould build iptables in ipsets and divert it...10:17
kylemor could just make it the default as you said.10:17
lifelessso I'm here to whine and plead for ipsets to be the default :)10:18
kylemi dunno if i agree with that, not that my voice is really worth much.10:18
Mithrandirwhat's ipsets?  Like iptables, only rewritten?10:19
lifelessMithrandir: its an iptables extension for handling very large or very dynamic groups of ip addresses10:19
lifelesskylem: well as one of the 2 kernel dudes, your voice counts heaps10:19
lifelesskylem: so if you say 'build another iptables binary and divery' -> will do so10:19
kylemnot really...10:19
kylemmy problem with it is, it seems to have been written a long time ago... and still not merged.10:20
kylemso clearly either something is wrong with it... or... something..10:20
lifelesskylem: ok, I'll get Jerub to ask around about that aspect10:20
lifelessMithrandir: with ipsets you create a match on set inclusion/exclusion, then add and remove ips from the set10:21
kylemlifeless, otoh it doesn't seem like it could make a big impact, my concerns are mostly from the maintainability/security aspect.10:21
lifelessthats fine, I'll ask. I have to run now, thanks for the chat10:22
kylemok. cheers.10:23
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[g2] is there much kernel development on the 2.17 (edgy) kernel or is it mostly Feisty (2.6.20) ?11:54
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crimsun[g2] : no.12:02
crimsun(for the former, that is. For the latter, yes.)12:02

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