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| somerville32 | ~37 more Feisty changes to do! :) | 02:34 |
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| jenda | Good morning juliux | 09:14 |
| jenda | any news? | 09:14 |
| juliux | jenda, i think 1500 ubuntu 1000 kubuntu 500 edubuntu and 500 xubuntu sounds good | 09:14 |
| jenda | juliux: confirmed and final? | 09:15 |
| juliux | if you need that final today, yes | 09:15 |
| jenda | No, I don't need it final today. | 09:15 |
| juliux | jenda, i am 98% sure | 09:15 |
| jenda | The sooner the better, however. | 09:15 |
| jenda | ok, cool :) | 09:15 |
| jenda | I'll wait one more day before ordering it, then... | 09:15 |
| jenda | ...I don't have the source files totally ready yet ; | 09:16 |
| jenda | ;) | 09:16 |
| juliux | do you have the newest logos? | 09:16 |
| jenda | I'll get them somewhere, no bigge. | 09:16 |
| jenda | *biggie | 09:16 |
| jenda | They are probably on the wiki, no? | 09:16 |
| juliux | i have no idea | 09:16 |
| jenda | I'll take that as a yes ;) | 09:16 |
| juliux | ask marilizie or someone else | 09:17 |
| jenda | found it | 09:19 |
| jenda | on the first place I looked ;) | 09:19 |
| jenda | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official | 09:19 |
| jenda | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=KubuntuLogo.png | 09:20 |
| jenda | juliux: is that what you meant, or is there some new logo that the wiki doesn't know of. | 09:20 |
| juliux | jenda, i have no idea about the version of the logo | 09:21 |
| juliux | the best thing is go into the #kubuntu and ask them | 09:21 |
| jenda | ok, I'll ask the Kpeople. | 09:21 |
| jenda | right ;) | 09:21 |
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| LongZheng | hey is anyone here familiar with the Ubuntu sounds dev? | 09:32 |
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| MenZa | hey juliux | 02:32 |
| MenZa | juliux: can I just /query you? | 02:34 |
| juliux | MenZa, sure | 02:34 |
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| beuno | meatballhat, jenda ping | 04:26 |
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| beuno | !seen elkbuntu | 06:48 |
| ubotu | I last saw elkbuntu (n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu) 16h 30m 19s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) | 06:48 |
| somerville32 | !seen beuno | 06:53 |
| ubotu | beuno is on IRC right now! | 06:54 |
| somerville32 | Oh wow! | 06:54 |
| somerville32 | :D | 06:54 |
| beuno | lol | 06:54 |
| beuno | he's psychic or something | 06:55 |
| beuno | how's it going somerville32? | 06:55 |
| somerville32 | Good | 06:56 |
| somerville32 | UWN 28 still isn't done | 06:56 |
| somerville32 | More Feisty changes to do | 06:56 |
| meatballhat | jenda, beuno Ping! | 06:59 |
| jenda | pong | 06:59 |
| beuno | somerville32, I can help in a while, gobby or wiki? | 07:00 |
| beuno | pong | 07:00 |
| meatballhat | okay, so the diy site .... | 07:00 |
| somerville32 | gobby | 07:00 |
| meatballhat | everything I've done lately is style | 07:00 |
| meatballhat | can we talk about usability? | 07:01 |
| beuno | somerville32, got it | 07:01 |
| beuno | meatballhat, yes please | 07:01 |
| jenda | meatballhat: I'm still undecided if I like the 2 by 2 or the vertical style more... | 07:01 |
| jenda | beuno: what do you think? | 07:01 |
| beuno | I really like the new style, it really pops out | 07:02 |
| beuno | it's different then *everything* else | 07:02 |
| jenda | beuno: that's true. | 07:02 |
| meatballhat | beuno: thanks (I think) ... the vertical style was adopted because of repeated feedback about fitting everything on an XGA display | 07:02 |
| beuno | and I think marketing really is about that | 07:02 |
| beuno | yeah, great work Dan | 07:03 |
| jenda | I like it too, the only thing that I'm unsure about is if it's as easy to understand when you first look at it... | 07:03 |
| jenda | meatballhat: that's a good point | 07:03 |
| meatballhat | okay, so about first impressions... | 07:03 |
| beuno | meatballhat, from a usability point of view, we really need to speed up the CSS | 07:03 |
| meatballhat | we've been staring at this thing for months, so ... | 07:03 |
| meatballhat | beuno: I'm not sure what else we can do with CSS ... we might have to switch over to JavaScript image replacements | 07:04 |
| beuno | also, if it's going to be that big, maybe we can add a small text (again) that explains what's each section about | 07:04 |
| jenda | meatballhat: the word 'community' doesn't fit on the 'get' button | 07:04 |
| beuno | meatballhat, I can speed it up, np (might use js, might not) | 07:04 |
| meatballhat | jenda: yeah ... another problem with the CSS-based approach ... and using actual text instead of IMG text | 07:05 |
| jenda | aha, yes, you mentioned that. | 07:05 |
| meatballhat | ...and here I was trying to do something noble :P | 07:05 |
| jenda | hehe | 07:05 |
| jenda | no, not at all - it's good :) | 07:05 |
| jenda | It makes it easier to work with, I'm sure. | 07:05 |
| meatballhat | I'm just a grouch about using JavaScript :D | 07:05 |
| meatballhat | what do both of you think about the link colors? | 07:06 |
| beuno | meatballhat, I agree, I'll try to find a CSS-related workaround | 07:06 |
| meatballhat | I changed the hover colors to be more modern | 07:06 |
| jenda | meatballhat: great. | 07:06 |
| jenda | Looks marvelous. | 07:06 |
| jenda | I haven't noticed that before :) | 07:06 |
| jenda | Really nice. | 07:06 |
| meatballhat | ....what with the higher contrast | 07:06 |
| beuno | yeap, I think so too | 07:06 |
| meatballhat | it's an accessibility thing, too | 07:06 |
| beuno | meatballhat, was the PHP programing clear enough? I didn't get a chance to comment it yet | 07:07 |
| meatballhat | beuno: yes, it's fine - I don't see myself ever messing with conn.php and genvars.php ... aside from hacking them for local use | 07:07 |
| meatballhat | and everything else is pretty straight forward :) | 07:07 |
| beuno | conn.php is a standars class I use for connections (hacked it myself, used it for years) | 07:08 |
| beuno | so even I won't touch that | 07:08 |
| meatballhat | jenda: the other thing about the vertical layout... | 07:08 |
| jenda | meatballhat: from the visual point of view, maybe centering the graphics in those buttons is worth a try. | 07:08 |
| meatballhat | centering vertically? .... or do you want to see the complete logos? | 07:09 |
| jenda | meatballhat: actually, I'm beginning to like it :) | 07:09 |
| beuno | welcome to the club jenda ;) | 07:09 |
| jenda | no, center horizontally, but don't scale - I don't need to see the entire thing... | 07:09 |
| jenda | ...or maybe try that too :) | 07:09 |
| jenda | unless you already have :) | 07:09 |
| meatballhat | okay ... I'd be happy to center them and keep the cropping | 07:10 |
| meatballhat | I'm trying to lead the user's eye around the page.... | 07:10 |
| jenda | yes, I think it's worth a try :) | 07:10 |
| meatballhat | the only thing I'm not happy about .... | 07:10 |
| jenda | It might not look good, but I can't tell without seeing it first, you know :) | 07:10 |
| meatballhat | is that the eye goes 'round the vertical columns ... | 07:10 |
| beuno | (brb) | 07:10 |
| meatballhat | winds up in the sidebar... | 07:11 |
| meatballhat | and then follows the sidebar down.... and off the page | 07:11 |
| meatballhat | :P | 07:11 |
| jenda | Not sure what you mean. | 07:11 |
| meatballhat | for the front page, the user's eye really should be stuck traveling in circles | 07:11 |
| meatballhat | :D | 07:12 |
| meatballhat | leading the focus *off* the page is bad | 07:12 |
| meatballhat | ...but what we've got right now is pretty good considering | 07:12 |
| meatballhat | it's a good lot better than most of the web :P | 07:12 |
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| jenda | Ah, ok. I'm getting it. | 07:13 |
| jenda | haha :) | 07:13 |
| meatballhat | If there isn't an efficient way to tweak the PHP so that all pages except for the front page display navigation logos along the header ... | 07:13 |
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| jenda | Actually, I'd give it a shot, and see what the wide public says. | 07:14 |
| meatballhat | I'm considering moving the Ubuntu Counter Count over to the left so that the sidebar boxes... | 07:14 |
| meatballhat | can move upward | 07:14 |
| jenda | Good ide. | 07:14 |
| jenda | a | 07:14 |
| jenda | Well... | 07:14 |
| jenda | maybe... | 07:14 |
| meatballhat | :D | 07:14 |
| jenda | I'm not sure if having things on both sides wouldn't ruin our viewers concentration altogether :) | 07:14 |
| meatballhat | no no... | 07:15 |
| meatballhat | just scooting the counter over a teensy bit | 07:15 |
| meatballhat | so that it's between the "[COF] ubuntu"... | 07:15 |
| meatballhat | and the sidebar | 07:15 |
| meatballhat | sorry... | 07:15 |
| jenda | OK, I could see that. | 07:15 |
| jenda | Good idea. | 07:16 |
| beuno | (back) | 07:16 |
| meatballhat | beuno: is it too much work to tweak inc_header.php... | 07:16 |
| meatballhat | so that... | 07:16 |
| meatballhat | everything except the front page | 07:16 |
| beuno | meatballhat, not at all | 07:16 |
| meatballhat | has navigation logos | 07:16 |
| jenda | hmm | 07:17 |
| jenda | meatballhat: idea! | 07:17 |
| meatballhat | jenda: shoot! :D | 07:17 |
| jenda | Remember when you had those navigation icons at the top? | 07:17 |
| jenda | I liked them there :) | 07:17 |
| meatballhat | yes .. as did I | 07:17 |
| jenda | and they saved us one box on the right. | 07:17 |
| meatballhat | it's something we lost when going to the includes structure | 07:17 |
| meatballhat | ...which doesn't mean we can't get them back ;) | 07:18 |
| beuno | yes, I might of left a few things behind | 07:18 |
| beuno | by accident, some not so much | 07:18 |
| meatballhat | beuno: is this a problem you can tackle? | 07:19 |
| meatballhat | :D | 07:19 |
| beuno | sure, I can get that done pretty fast | 07:19 |
| meatballhat | excellent | 07:19 |
| beuno | I also have the backend a bit stalled since no real content seemed to be available yet | 07:19 |
| meatballhat | ...which effectively eliminates the "navigation" sidebar portlet | 07:19 |
| beuno | was that tackled? | 07:19 |
| meatballhat | beuno: on that subject .... | 07:20 |
| meatballhat | I think I'd like to add more fields to the layout | 07:20 |
| meatballhat | on "spread.php" | 07:20 |
| meatballhat | so a stalling of the process might not be so bad | 07:20 |
| meatballhat | I guess I'd like to make the layout... | 07:21 |
| meatballhat | so that it's more in line with other aggregation sites | 07:21 |
| beuno | ok, np | 07:21 |
| meatballhat | what with "summaries" and "hits" (?) | 07:21 |
| meatballhat | shall I make some changes "spread.php" and then shout when I'm done? | 07:22 |
| meatballhat | changes *to , that is | 07:22 |
| jenda | OK guys, I gotta run. | 07:23 |
| jenda | Anything else that I need to have a look at quickly? :) | 07:23 |
| meatballhat | jenda: later! more updates pushed tomorrow morn | 07:23 |
| beuno | yeap, I'll only change inc_header.php | 07:23 |
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| jenda | good :) | 07:23 |
| meatballhat | beuno: okay, so you're on the inc_header.php and I'll tweak spread.php | 07:23 |
| beuno | yeap, great | 07:23 |
| meatballhat | and we'll get back together tomorrow morn | 07:23 |
| meatballhat | 'kay | 07:23 |
| beuno | perfect | 07:23 |
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| meatballhat | ...now I'm back to work (as in "job") :D | 07:24 |
| beuno | me too | 07:24 |
| meatballhat | talk to you tomorrow ;) | 07:24 |
| jenda | That's not the real work, you know ;) | 07:24 |
| beuno | somerville32, I'll get on gobby in a couple of hours | 07:24 |
| meatballhat | jenda: you're all too right ;) | 07:24 |
| beuno | jenda, lol | 07:24 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | somerville32: after 21 UTC i can help with UWN if you still need help | 08:18 |
| somerville32 | ok | 08:18 |
| somerville32 | Feisty changes still need doing | 08:18 |
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| tonyyarusso | somerville32: Seriously? crud. /me still has more class yet today and such, but good luck. | 08:31 |
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| somerville32 | lol | 08:32 |
| somerville32 | I think there is like 30 or so left | 08:32 |
| Admiral_Chicago | right now I have a class and installing a driver for wireless | 08:38 |
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| Mez | I've been granted an interview with the ICT director for Computer Science at Aston University - who recently moved around 300PCs from Solaris to Kubuntu | 10:47 |
| Mez | what sorta things should I be asking him | 10:47 |
| jalrnc | Mez: simple one -> why kubuntu? (or ubuntu for that matter) | 10:51 |
| Mez | lol | 10:51 |
| jalrnc | :) | 10:51 |
| MenZa | What experiences he's had since changing | 10:52 |
| jalrnc | advantages vs disadvantages when compared to Solaris | 10:54 |
| jalrnc | how easy/difficult was the move | 10:55 |
| jalrnc | the move itself, and maybe also the decision to move | 10:56 |
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