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tonyyarussoIs v2 coming for feisty?12:28
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ubotuIn ubotu, SilentDis said: !envy is envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy12:49
PriceChild!envy12:49
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy12:49
PriceChild!no envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy12:50
ubotuI'll remember that, PriceChild12:50
LjL!no envy is !no envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia12:50
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL12:50
LjL(... yeah i noticed)12:50
PriceChildyou had to go one better LjL ;)12:50
PriceChild!engy12:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about engy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:51
PriceChild!envy12:51
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia12:51
PriceChildLjL, why've you got !no envy in the reply and why wasn't that picked up by ubotu?12:51
gnomefreak!no envy12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about no envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
gnomefreakor not12:52
LjLPriceChild: 1) messed up copy and paste  2) because i changed it a moment later in a private query12:52
PriceChildhaha :)12:52
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LjLwell, it is - it can take regular expressions12:57
LjLit's me who's dumb enough to disregard that and just use copy&paste :P12:58
PriceChildhehe :)12:58
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Seveasenvy is crap01:06
Seveasjust make a bloody updated l-r-m package01:06
Seveasit's easy...01:06
Seveasespecially for nvidia drivers01:06
LjLSeveas: he does that, too, for that matter01:06
Seveasthen why that envy crud?01:07
LjLalthough i don't think he provides source packages, or at least i couldn't find it01:07
SeveasI hate scripts that do such things01:07
LjLi guess... i guess... i guess because there's some days delay between new drivers being released and he updating the repository01:07
LjLhey, if people just WANT THE NEW DRIVER NOW!!!!, let them have it :P01:07
Seveasmeh01:07
LjLlike other scripts that i won't mention... use them if you like. just don't come to me whining if they break01:09
PriceChildlol01:09
Seveas@lart envy01:10
LjLit won't mention such scripts either01:11
Seveasit's dead01:11
Seveas@part01:11
Seveassee01:11
Seveas!ping01:11
ubotupong01:11
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LjLbeen there for a while01:12
PriceChild:)01:12
LjL(i can't fail to notice him unless i disable highlights)01:12
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Seveasubugtu willbe unresponsive for a few minutes to come01:16
Seveas@load Mess01:19
Seveas@t01:19
PriceChildfirst things first hey Seveas? ;)01:19
Seveashehe01:19
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ubotuIn ubotu, jrib said: no splash is the dash should be an underscorse as in: /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image02:00
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jribcan I repeat my edit request(s) since you joined?02:24
somerville32!splash02:24
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor02:24
somerville32!no, splash is <reply>  To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.02:25
ubotuI'll remember that, somerville3202:25
jribI had a motu one too from earlier, any decision on that?02:26
jribsomerville32: thanks for that one02:30
somerville32Can you repeat it the MOTU one?02:30
ubotuIn ubotu, jrib said: motu is also To request packages visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates02:30
somerville32!motu02:32
ubotumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU02:32
somerville32jrib: Most MOTUs don't actually review the Candidates page.02:32
somerville32Infact, they are most likely getting rid of it02:32
jribis there another place to request packages?02:32
Hobbseesomerville32: oh are we?  nice02:32
Hobbseesomerville32: it does get done occasoinally02:33
somerville32True but I don't think it'll be around for very much longer02:33
jribI usually send package requests on launchpad to that page02:33
jribjust wondering if there was a better place02:33
somerville32We'll be creating a product and people will file bug reports to request a new package - hey, kind of like debian : P02:33
jribI see02:34
jribthat does sound better02:34
Hobbseesomerville32: ahhh02:37
Hobbseejrib: the problem is, most MOTU's are busy getting everything updated, fixing bugs, etc - new packages often dont show up on the to do list.  especially if they are of no interest to the packager02:38
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arrenlexSo what happened to my earlier "allow package info factoids to be addressed to someone with a pipe" proposal?02:50
Mez!kdebase | arrenlex 02:51
ubotukdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB02:51
Mezarrenlex, try filing a bug02:51
Mezhttp://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/02:52
arrenlexPage not found -- Theres no page with this address in Launchpad.       02:52
somerville32lose the ~02:52
Mezyeah02:53
Mezhttp://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/02:53
Mezsorry02:53
somerville32...02:54
Hobbseehttp://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/02:55
Mezlol02:55
Mezgrr02:55
Mezty Hobbsee 02:55
arrenlexOkay, I filed one. Thank you.03:00
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Mezhmm03:16
Mezhowcome I cant install FF plugins ?03:17
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=== hybrid waves to everyone
naliothgoing somewhere?04:37
hybridjust sayin hi04:39
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Atom-hello02:09
PriceChildHi Atom- 02:10
Atom-hi02:10
Atom-i need to ask about being banned in one of the ubuntu channels02:10
Atom-the large 1 #ubuntu02:10
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Atom-i was told to try in here02:10
Atom-dont know why i was banned, but i still cant rejoin since last night02:11
PriceChildAtom-, have you followed instructions? If so someone will deal with you shortly (I don't have any powers in #ubuntu)02:11
jendalemme check...02:11
PriceChildAtom-, oh is this not a router problem...02:11
Atom-what instructions ?02:11
PriceChildnm sorry02:11
jendaIndeed...02:12
Atom-ive checked my log of the channel and cant find any info about why i was banned02:12
Atom-but i am :(02:12
Atom-cant even find out who did it02:12
PriceChildone moment please Atom- 02:13
Atom-np ty02:14
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gnomefreakit wasnt me02:14
jendaOh, we know who it was, just not why, yet :)02:14
Atom-:O ?02:14
PriceChildjenda, you get my message?02:14
gnomefreakif your in ban tracker find the ban and click on show logs it will show the logs around the time the ban was set02:15
jendaPriceChild: yep02:15
Atom-as far as im aware ive not broken any rules, that i know of02:16
PriceChildJan 17 23:12:00 <Atom-> !falcon02:18
PriceChildwhoops...02:18
jendahmm02:19
Atom-i requested info from the bot02:19
Atom-thats why i was banned ?02:19
gnomefreakSeveas: you around 02:19
jendaAtom-: and how many times did you request it?02:19
Atom-think i did it twice02:19
mneptoktwice02:19
mneptok17:38 < Atom-> !falcon02:20
mneptok18:11 < Atom-> !falcon02:20
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Atom-first time i looked at the info i didnt make any notes02:20
jendahmm02:20
jendaok...02:20
Atom-couldnt find it again, so i requested the info again02:20
jendathat sounds quite reasonable to me.02:20
Atom-its a large channel lol, i couldnt find the info again :)02:21
Atom-ive taken notes now02:21
gnomefreakAtom-: use /msg ubotu falcon02:21
Atom-so im not allowed to request more than once ?02:21
Atom-ok02:21
mneptokAtom-: i unbanned you. please be careful with the bot, and do not repeat too often.02:21
Atom-in future ?02:21
Atom-ok02:21
jendaWell, theoretically, it's best to request in PM even if you do so just once.02:21
gnomefreakAtom-: try to do it always for personal use02:21
Atom-think it was about 30 mins apart02:21
mneptok /msg is usually best if you already know how the bot works02:22
Atom-k02:22
PriceChildI've got the appropriate log from this chanel of Seveas If anyone's interested02:22
mneptokthanks02:22
Atom-well ive only used the bot a couple times upto now02:22
jendaAtom-: unfortunately, the op who banned you was beeped by each of the messages, got him annoyed.02:22
jendaPriceChild: I've got them too, but damn are bip logs hard to go through :)02:22
PriceChildhehe :)02:23
Atom-k02:23
Atom-well i'll try to be careful next time02:23
Atom-sorry about this messing about02:23
Atom-not usualy something i do much of, begging to be unbanned :)02:23
mneptoks'ok. be judicious in the future. and you might want to /msg Seveas and tell him you did not know he would be beeped. ;)02:24
Atom-well thats true i didnt know02:25
Atom-he have it on highlight or sum ?02:25
Atom-because its his project02:25
mneptokaye, if he knows it was unintetional he'll be bummed you got banned. Seveas is good people.02:25
Atom-np02:26
Atom-thanks for the help peeps02:26
Atom-cya later02:26
mneptokand it's not like he doesn't enjoy people using his packages.02:26
Atom-:D02:26
PriceChild:)02:26
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mneptokanother satisfied customer02:27
mneptok<apu>THANK YOU COME AGAIN</apu>02:27
PriceChild:)02:28
gnomefreakwe are here to satisfy people? :(02:46
GazzaKare you, thats a first02:46
GazzaK:-)02:46
gnomefreak:)02:46
Amaranthjenda: you use bip too?02:48
Amaranthjenda: what are your replay settings?02:48
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jendaAmaranth: backlogging?02:49
Amaranthi started off with having it replay everything on reconnect, got bored of 3 minute app lockups on connect, switched to only doing replay since last disconnect, kept missing conversations02:49
Amaranthi've settled on 200 lines now02:49
Amaranthcan't remember what bip calls it02:49
jendaI don't rightly remember - I think I have a max 100 lines or so and no-backlock-of-what's-been-backlogged already.02:49
jendamaybe 20002:49
jendabip rocks :)02:49
jendaANd when connected with bitlbee - rocks harder.02:49
Amaranthonly problem with my setup is i get the stupid messages from chanserv, nickserv, and -bip- (server mode change) every connect :)02:50
jendayep :)02:50
jendawell, only happens when the connection fails to me.02:51
Amaranthi, uh, have X lockup a lot due to compiz02:51
Amaranthi wish i had another box to test patches on02:51
jendaYou should use beryl ;)03:03
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PriceChildhaha!03:03
GazzaKlol03:05
Amaranthjenda: beryl crashes too when i'm working on it :P03:07
jendahehe :)03:07
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apokryphosno need for another box, just a different display :P04:26
apokryphosthough I very very rarely get full X-lockups, and anything else is recoverable without a restart, pretty much04:27
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keeb:) hi there06:59
keebi didn't know about this channel, Sorry PriceChild 06:59
keebanyway, I would like an unban from #ubuntu-offtopic, my silly abuse of the bot won't happen again07:00
Mezwhat nick u using when banned?07:00
Mez12 different abns...07:02
Mezkeeb, why cant youbehave yourself in there?07:03
PriceChildsomething's up with ubotu....07:03
keeb12 different bans?07:07
keebfor me?07:07
PriceChildyes07:07
keebI let hobbsee test his script out on me, and the other ones are like 2 min bans07:07
keebi assure you i haven't done anything to misbehave heavily07:08
Mezkeeb but they're still there07:08
somerville32Hobbsee is a female07:08
Mezkeeb: mainly for being crude and abusive07:08
keebi said something silly to ubotu last night that was a little family unfriendly, i suppose using the word penis in that context was not so nice07:08
MezI've checked all the logs ..07:08
Mezkeeb: thing is in the logs you've done that 4 times and got kicked each time07:08
PriceChildkeeb, we keep logs for all activity, especialy bans07:08
keebPriceChild: that's fantastic, i'm glad you have logs07:09
Mezso you should have learnt really07:09
keebi'm not trying to refute your evidence one bit07:09
keebso, i am permanently banned then?07:09
somerville32No.07:09
PriceChildkeeb, as a guideline I would reccomend you wait at least 24 hours before taking any action07:09
Mezkeeb... not permanently, but I'm not going to remove the ban07:09
keebPriceChild: hasn't it been like.. 18-20?07:10
keebi dont remember when i got banned07:10
keebjust sometime mid day yesterday07:10
somerville32keeb: Come back on Monday :)07:10
Mezkeeb - just under 1807:10
keeb;\ this is rather ridiculous, while i am sometimes disruptive i help out people consistently07:11
keeband i am generally friendly07:11
somerville32keeb: Are you banned from #ubuntu?07:11
keebno07:11
somerville32Then I'm not sure what you mean by being helpful07:11
somerville32#ubuntu-offtopic is purely for offtopic chit-chat07:12
keebyeah but people still ask plenty of questions there07:12
somerville32If you're interested in helping people, you're still welcome in #ubuntu07:12
keebi am interested in chatting with my 'friends' from #u-o07:12
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somerville32keeb: Unfortunately you've lost that privilege right now because you've misbehaved.07:12
Mezkeeb, then - behave, stop whining and wait a bit longer :P07:13
keebwhining? wow.07:13
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somerville32keeb; You aren't whining.07:14
somerville32keeb; Is there anything else we can help you with today? :)07:15
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somerville32Mez: I don't think we ever have to accuse people of "whining". The only purpose in saying it is to be provocative.07:16
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somerville32What does btf mean?07:18
somerville32Oh07:18
somerville32Someone's nick07:18
Mezer... it wasnt meant in an offensive way07:26
Mezit was just a word i put in there cause i couldnt be bothered to think of the proper one07:26
somerville32When someone tells me to stop whining it feels like they're telling me "Shut up and fall back in line"07:27
Seveassomerville32, oh shut up and fall back in line ;)07:28
somerville32hehe07:28
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SeveasMez, somerville32: fyi, most of keebs bans in there are playing with him. Yesterday I booted him for some offensive things but no ned for a permban07:29
MezSeveas, wasnt a perma ban :P07:29
Mezi just didnt want to meddle in somethin i didnt know about07:30
tonyyarussoHe has a lot of /removes, but not as many bans.  Many of the removes are valid (and frankly there should be more)07:30
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ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, lotusleaf said: ubotu: !scoobysnack is Ranks Raggy!09:47
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MezSeveas, ping10:03
SeveasMez, -EBUSY10:03
MezSeveas, darn... wanted you to help me get eathargy to post bugs in katapult to #katapult10:04
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PriceChildJust got pm spam from McVelvet who's in #ubuntu10:25
PriceChild<McVelet> do you want to become a partner with me www.visitallday.com10:25
PriceChild* McVelet has quit (K-lined)10:26
PriceChildwoo :)10:26
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thefishhi folks, just want to report a spammer:10:28
thefish:McVelet!n=sadas@212.156.220.191 PRIVMSG thefish :do you want to become a partner with me www.visitallday.com10:28
HawkwindAlready handled10:28
thefishcheers Hawkwind 10:28
thefishalrighty then10:29
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PriceChildhehe :)10:31
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tsmitheam i despised by ops?11:23
PriceChildwe all hate you tsmithe 11:24
PriceChildwe're all warned about you before our initiation :P11:24
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tsmithe:P11:24
tonyyarussotsmithe: I don't despise you, just your nickchanges and public aways ;)11:24
tsmithetonyyarusso, i've only once done a public away11:25
tsmitheand i've been trying really hard with the nickchanges11:25
tsmithei think i've really cut down!11:25
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tonyyarussoI see things like /me sleep a lot11:26
tsmitheoh11:26
tsmithethat's just me saying goodbye11:26
tsmithecos i never quit11:26
tsmitheand i don't want to be wanted when i'm gone11:26
apokryphosset /away ;-)11:26
tsmitheapokryphos, i do11:26
tsmitheno-one ever checks /whois11:27
tsmithe(at least i always do)11:27
apokryphosI just note that they're greyd out in the list11:27
tsmitheapokryphos, indeed11:27
apokryphosadmittedly not as obvious in longer lists11:27
apokryphosthere's nothing wrong with them sometimes, of course11:27
tsmitheok11:28
apokryphosif I'm in a conversation and I have to leave I generally say11:28
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