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| gunny01 | is there a way to lock the screen in xubuntu | 12:48 |
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| Kraken | You can give yourself a 'lockscreen' button. right click on the panel and add an 'Action Button' | 12:50 |
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| gunny01 | Kraken: thanks | 01:22 |
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| cellofellow | Too late, but to get a New Login button, add a launcher to run gdmflexiserver. Use the Login Window icon. Works great. | 01:23 |
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| bigfuzzyjesus | it is so difficult to get my nvidia card to work | 01:32 |
| cellofellow | what's up with it? | 01:33 |
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| bigfuzzyjesus | cellofellow, it says that it has insufficient dependincies when i try to install the driver so i am reinstalling everything nvidia related at the moment | 01:35 |
| Jester45 | what where you installing | 01:36 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: did you go to that link?//////////// | 01:36 |
| bigfuzzyjesus | nvidia drivers | 01:36 |
| Jester45 | you shouldnt have a problem | 01:36 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: the one where the NYTImes guy reviews vista. Yeah, funny. | 01:36 |
| Jester45 | from my site? | 01:36 |
| cellofellow | ?? no, I found that on Google Video and downloaded it there. Faster. | 01:37 |
| Jester45 | o | 01:37 |
| Jester45 | well shame on you | 01:37 |
| cellofellow | That | 01:38 |
| cellofellow | That's where you got it, isn't it? | 01:38 |
| Jester45 | thats all the stuff i want to do is bend windows | 01:38 |
| cellofellow | school-at-home.blogspot.com | 01:38 |
| Jester45 | yes | 01:38 |
| Jester45 | ? | 01:38 |
| cellofellow | go there. | 01:38 |
| Jester45 | thats yours? | 01:39 |
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| cellofellow | yes | 01:40 |
| cellofellow | so is mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com and cellofellow.homelinux.net | 01:40 |
| Jester45 | copying my hard searching | 01:40 |
| cellofellow | LOL. Google Video has a button for posting to blogs. | 01:40 |
| Jester45 | so... | 01:41 |
| Jester45 | i showed you them, | 01:41 |
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| nosiop | is there a way to force synaptic package manager to download files instead of looking for them on the cdrom? | 02:17 |
| Commander-Crowe | nosiop, yes | 02:17 |
| nosiop | Commander-Crowe: ah, and how does one do so? | 02:17 |
| Commander-Crowe | by editing the source.list which is located in /etc/apt/ | 02:18 |
| nosiop | ok, thank you | 02:18 |
| somerville32 | nosiop, You can also use Applications > System > Software Sources and disable your cd-rom | 02:20 |
| Commander-Crowe | somerville32, does that work yet? I always was unable to get it to work, or it'll screw stuff up | 02:20 |
| nosiop | well, I still want all the packages listed | 02:20 |
| somerville32 | Right | 02:21 |
| cellofellow | just comment out the cdrom:/// stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list | 02:21 |
| nosiop | I just don't want it to try and read them off the CD-ROM | 02:21 |
| nosiop | ok | 02:21 |
| somerville32 | You just want to disable the cdrom as a source | 02:21 |
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| nosiop | workes like a charm, thanks :) | 02:21 |
| cellofellow | I enabled DVD just cause I wanted something faster than internet. | 02:21 |
| Jester45 | but... you have to dl the dvd | 02:22 |
| cellofellow | I got it from a freind who subscribes to Linux magazine | 02:22 |
| nosiop | internet is much faster than cd/dvd when you have no drive ;) | 02:23 |
| cellofellow | haha, true true | 02:23 |
| cellofellow | but when I install from CD, I don't have to wait at all, it installs so freakin fast. | 02:23 |
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| Jester45 | faster internet? | 02:23 |
| cellofellow | I wish | 02:24 |
| DarthShrine | Afternoon. | 02:24 |
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| Jester45 | then i would be set | 02:24 |
| Jester45 | hi | 02:24 |
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| WiZarD-X | i'm attempting to install amarok, but it is not recognizing that i already have mysql-common loaded. can anyone offer any help on this? | 02:32 |
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| Jester45 | use sql-lite? | 02:33 |
| cellofellow | try #kubuntu for kde app support, sorry. :( | 02:33 |
| WiZarD-X | aight, thanks bud | 02:33 |
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| semi-fly | Hi bur[n] er | 03:05 |
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| Jester45 | can i use a 2nd mouse as a shortcut to launch programs? | 04:13 |
| Jester45 | or will it be detected and still act like 1 mouse | 04:13 |
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| kalikiana | it'll act like one mouse | 04:20 |
| Jester45 | darn | 04:20 |
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| kalikiana | although i saw some sort of driver on the net changing that | 04:20 |
| Jester45 | oo | 04:21 |
| Jester45 | 2nd keyboard | 04:21 |
| kalikiana | but neither know i where it was nor do i believe it worked anyway | 04:21 |
| Jester45 | lots of lauchers | 04:21 |
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| boris55 | I'm crying. my brother wiped xubuntu off my other computer and replaced it with anothe xfce distro. | 05:39 |
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| nosiop | :) | 05:59 |
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| cellofellow | How do I install the Murrine GTK Engine? | 06:30 |
| cellofellow | Nothing in the repositories. | 06:30 |
| cellofellow | I don't think. | 06:31 |
| cellofellow | !murrine | 06:31 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about murrine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:31 |
| cellofellow | blast | 06:31 |
| cellofellow | well, google helped. | 06:34 |
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| underpope | Anyone available to offer some assistance? | 08:03 |
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| PuMpErNiCkLe | !anyone | 08:10 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 08:10 |
| underpope | I suspect that something I installed through apt-get yesterday is making OpenOffice.org suddenly run really slow (five minutes just to launch -- this is brand new behavior as of today). Is there anything that might have come through the pipe that might be doing this? | 08:16 |
| underpope | Sorry, that was unclear: something through apt-get dist-upgrade. | 08:20 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Nothing I've heard of. Have you tried running 'top' while launching OOo? You may get an idea of what's slowing it down, that way. | 08:21 |
| underpope | soffice.bin is consuming about 14% of the memory; xorg about 4.5%. There are a couple of xfce processes that come in and out. | 08:23 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Is that while it's running, or while it's launching? | 08:25 |
| underpope | That's while it's runnin. | 08:26 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | And is there any particular problem with responsiveness while it's running, or just while it's launching? | 08:29 |
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| underpope | There's painfully slow lag time while OOo is running as well. Lots of disk activity. It has taken six minutes (so far) to open a brand new document. I have already tried purging OOo and reinstalling it. | 08:32 |
| underpope | Sorry, forgot to mention: this is Edgy. | 08:34 |
| TheSheep | underpope: java | 08:42 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Does it make much of a difference if Java usage is enabled/disabled? (Tools -> options -> openoffice.org -> java) | 08:42 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | TheSheep++ | 08:42 |
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| PuMpErNiCkLe | Hm, Flash 9 has been officially released. | 08:53 |
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| ki | Hi guys! | 09:45 |
| ki | Hello? | 09:45 |
| ki | I would like to know some things about xubuntu. | 09:46 |
| ki | 1. What version of xfce does it run? | 09:46 |
| ki | 2. Can it install debs? | 09:47 |
| ki | 3. What is the *buntu package manager like? | 09:47 |
| ki | 4. Does it automount? | 09:47 |
| ki | 5. Does it have an AMD64 edition? | 09:48 |
| ki | 6. Does it support my hardware? Realtek rtl8187 wifi I believe which would not compile from source, nvidia geforce7900 or something, but nvidia isn't usually a problem with linux. | 09:49 |
| ki | (I can't check hardware specifically because my dads friend took it to repair the motherboard). | 09:50 |
| ki | *I mean the drivers would not compile from source, they existed though. | 09:50 |
| ki | 7. What kernel version does it run? | 09:50 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | ki: 1. 4.4beta2 (depending on xubuntu's version) | 09:51 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | ki: 1. yes, doulbe-click in Thunar | 09:51 |
| ki | oh thats good :) as long as it is above 4.2 | 09:51 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | ki: 3. Synaptic, Aptutude, apt | 09:51 |
| ki | what? double click in thunar? what? | 09:51 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | Thunar is the default filemanager and double-clicking on a deb installs it | 09:52 |
| ki | 3. how many packages do they have and do they auto-resolve dependencies? | 09:52 |
| ki | oh thats cool! installs it wizard style? | 09:52 |
| ki | hey, I can still do apt-get in terminal, right? Like how I can do port install in freebsd? | 09:52 |
| ki | and wizard style like PBI installer? | 09:52 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | it's a nice dialog telling you e.g. description, dependencies and more | 09:53 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | apt-get works as well, yes | 09:53 |
| ki | so it doesn't autoresolve dependencies, but it tells me dependencies at least so I can get them? | 09:53 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | it tries to get them automatically | 09:53 |
| ki | sorry I have so many questions. | 09:53 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | :) | 09:53 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | 4. Thunar does that I think | 09:54 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | 5. i believe so | 09:54 |
| ki | oh good :) | 09:54 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | 7. Edgy: 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP | 09:55 |
| ki | what is the difference between thunar and xffm? (only just switched to xfce today, long time kde user and lover who wanted to try something new) | 09:55 |
| ki | Edgy? sounds very debian :). | 09:55 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | xffm is a whole suite of utilities, Thunar is only a filemanager | 09:55 |
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| ki | 2.6.17? DAMN! That means no vmware workstation. Upgrading the kernel isn't a problem right? Some Linux distros won't do it.. | 09:56 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | Edgy Eft is Xubuntu 6.1 | 09:56 |
| ki | okay :) | 09:56 |
| ki | Xubuntu sounds very ubuntu just without gnome. | 09:56 |
| ki | but thats okay, I like the look of gnome but xfce is better. | 09:56 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | it's still ubuntu of course | 09:56 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | xfce is more standards and less bloated | 09:57 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | compiling kernel is possible | 09:57 |
| ki | hey, is there a way to put shortcuts on desktop with xfce? I find the background sort of...useless. | 09:57 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | yes | 09:57 |
| ki | is it easy though? can I just open update manager and bam, or atleast download through a package manager? | 09:57 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | you meaning kernel compiling? there is a package for that, I'm not sure what exactly is in there | 09:58 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | didn't do it for some time | 09:58 |
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| ki | okay. | 10:01 |
| ki | just that vmware hates anything below 2.6.18 | 10:01 |
| ki | anyway, is wifi easy to set up with wep and everything? | 10:02 |
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| ki | oh yeah, does xgl work fine? | 10:03 |
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| ki | and you know how it only includes free as in freedom software? With an update can I get propietry 3d nvidia/ati drivers and mp3 playback, etc? | 10:04 |
| kalikiana | you can get proprietary packages, e.g. easyubuntu | 10:05 |
| ki | what is this easyubuntu? | 10:05 |
| kalikiana | xgl works fine depending on the gfx card, for me (ati9800) it's fine | 10:05 |
| kalikiana | easyubuntu is one GUI tool which install non-free things | 10:06 |
| kalikiana | but it's not from canonical directly | 10:06 |
| ki | what I mean is, is the update manager good? and does it install mp3 playback when you install like suse? | 10:06 |
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| kalikiana | the updatemanager is fine (although i personally use synaptic for about everything) | 10:07 |
| ki | or you have to get easy ubuntu, search for mp3, dvd, 3d driver and so on then install individually and manually? | 10:07 |
| ki | what filesystem does it use? | 10:07 |
| kalikiana | repos do include non-free but easyubuntu helps you set drivers up | 10:08 |
| kalikiana | filesystem is ext3 by default | 10:08 |
| ki | nice. | 10:08 |
| kalikiana | man, don't you get that infos from the web? :P | 10:08 |
| ki | I can I suppose. | 10:09 |
| ki | just thought it would be easier if you were willing :) | 10:09 |
| ki | also manpages don't answer most questions. | 10:10 |
| ki | one more thing, can it handle autopackages out of the box? | 10:10 |
| kalikiana | nope, needs to install autopackage normally | 10:12 |
| kalikiana | now I gotta go, so maybe see ya later :) | 10:12 |
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| ki | thanks kalikiana! | 10:14 |
| ki | Yay I'm downloading Xubuntu. | 10:19 |
| ki | I hope wifi is easy, otherwise sounds nice :). | 10:19 |
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| grazie | Did an apt-get update yesterday and I've lost sound. Any suggestions? | 10:31 |
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| gunny01 | i installed xgl/beryl and that worked fine. however, when i went back to my regular xfce desktop, only one of the virtual desktops icons appears in the lower right hand corner of the screen and i can't find a way to get it back. any help? | 10:55 |
| TheSheep | gunny01: stettings->worksapces settings | 10:57 |
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| gunny01 | TheSheep: thnx | 10:57 |
| Tajmox | how do i take a screenshot? | 10:57 |
| Tajmox | i dont want the panel icon but thats the only way i can take a screenshot? | 10:58 |
| TheSheep | Tajmox: you can use one of the commandline tools, and bind it to a keypress | 10:59 |
| gunny01 | Tajmox: you could do it throu x but that is hardish. | 10:59 |
| gunny01 | Tajmox: hold on and I'll consolt a lxf | 10:59 |
| gunny01 | er...scratch that. | 11:00 |
| gunny01 | might be easist just to make a panel icon and delete it afterwards :-D | 11:01 |
| Tajmox | what command would that be ? | 11:04 |
| Tajmox | for a screenshot | 11:04 |
| Tajmox | and where are key bindings in xfce ?? I havent set up my media keys because I cant find it | 11:04 |
| TheSheep | Tajmox: bindings are in settings->keyboard | 11:05 |
| Tajmox | oic different than gnome im looking for where to set my media buttons - they work in gnome but not in xfce | 11:05 |
| TheSheep | Tajmox: not sure about media buttons | 11:08 |
| TheSheep | Tajmox: I think you need to find some howto on the forums | 11:09 |
| TheSheep | Tajmox: for the screenshot, there is the 'import' command in ImageMigick, for exmaple | 11:09 |
| TheSheep | Tajmox: or 'scrap' program | 11:09 |
| TheSheep | !scrap | 11:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about scrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 11:09 |
| TheSheep | !screenshot | 11:09 |
| ubotu | Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button or the File -> Acquire menu in the GIMP. | 11:09 |
| TheSheep | :\ | 11:10 |
| TheSheep | that's for gnome | 11:10 |
| Tajmox | no biggie i'll just use F2 and gnome-screenshot | 11:11 |
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| TuxCrafter | hello | 02:17 |
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| hyper_ch | TheSheep: I just can't get Feisty to run | 04:15 |
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| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: I can't get Feisty to run either | 04:32 |
| gabkdlly | It hangs after trying to mount swap and fsck | 04:32 |
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| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: nope, grub just has problems selecting the right partitions and I don't know how to change that | 04:35 |
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| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: do you have multiple xubuntu installs on the same machine? | 04:45 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: yes | 04:47 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I also tried getting it installed into hda5 | 04:47 |
| hyper_ch | where the current root is | 04:47 |
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| gabkdlly | did you mean to overwrite what was in hda5 before? or do you mean that you wanted to make hda5 the boot partition? | 04:51 |
| gabkdlly | was hda5 your boot partition before? | 04:51 |
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| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: hda5 is the root of edgy | 04:53 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I tried to install from a alternate cd feisty herd2 there | 04:54 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I selected the data in hda5 to be formatted | 04:54 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: however after restart, grub had problems finding the right stuff | 04:54 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: then I shrinked my backup harddisk | 04:54 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: setup a new 30gb partition there | 04:54 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: of course I first installed edgy again in hda5 | 04:54 |
| hyper_ch | the 30gb partition there is /dev/sda5 | 04:55 |
| gabkdlly | on my system, mount tells me that hdc5 is for swap, and hdc1 is root, which I guess tells my by process of illimination that hdc2 must be the boot partition | 04:55 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I installed feisty there... same result... upon booting grub couldn't do anything | 04:55 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: so I used the edgy cd again booted into recovery mode and isntalled grub again | 04:55 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: now I can at least boot into edgy again | 04:55 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I did now alter the grub menu.lst : http://phpfi.com/194776 --> not sure if that works | 04:57 |
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| gabkdlly | so, I guess you are booting from two different hard drives, eh? | 04:59 |
| gabkdlly | doesn't Grub start counting partitions at zero? | 04:59 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I have 4 harddrives | 05:00 |
| hyper_ch | 3x IDE | 05:00 |
| hyper_ch | 1x SATA | 05:00 |
| hyper_ch | and it just totally mixes that all up | 05:00 |
| gabkdlly | To me, it looks like your Feisty menu entries refer to a fifth hard drive =-O | 05:01 |
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| gabkdlly | a sixth partition on the fifth hard drive, to be exact | 05:02 |
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| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: well, I also have a dvd-rw attached to one of the ide cables | 05:03 |
| slow-motion | hallo | 05:03 |
| hyper_ch | hence it should be drive 5... shouldn't it? | 05:03 |
| hyper_ch | !uuid | 05:05 |
| ubotu | To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) | 05:05 |
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| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: if you are talking about hda5 (as seen in /dev/ ) wouldn't that correspond to (hd0,4) in Grub terminology? | 05:19 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: it's sda5 :) | 05:20 |
| hyper_ch | anyway, in #ubuntu+1 I was told to use UUIDs in grub :) | 05:20 |
| hyper_ch | it looks now like that: http://phpfi.com/194779 | 05:20 |
| gabkdlly | you are now installing Feisty into what used to be your Windows partition? | 05:21 |
| hyper_ch | no, windows is hda1 | 05:22 |
| gabkdlly | I have to admit, it is a bit over my head :( | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: 4 harddisks | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: 60GB | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: 120 GB | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: 160 GB | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: 320 GB | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | the 120 ons is hda1 | 05:23 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: the 160 is hdd1 | 05:24 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: the 120 is hdc1 | 05:24 |
| hyper_ch | and the 320gb is now sda1+5 | 05:24 |
| hyper_ch | the 120gb disk contains a 30 GB partiton for windows, a 3gb swap, a 15 gb edgy and the rest is /home | 05:24 |
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| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: which is your boot partition? | 05:27 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: for what sys? | 05:29 |
| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: when you partitioned your drives, didn't you designate one (exactly one) of them to be the boot partition? | 05:31 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I did | 05:31 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: /dev/sda5 | 05:31 |
| hyper_ch | I'll try now with my altered grub menu | 05:32 |
| gabkdlly | you did: grub-install /dev/sda5 ? | 05:32 |
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| hyper_ch | that didn't work | 05:35 |
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| somerville32 | hyper_ch, What are you trying to do? | 05:38 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: trying to get feisty to run | 05:41 |
| somerville32 | How are you trying to get it to work? | 05:42 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: I tried an upgrade from edgy | 05:42 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: after reboob grub didn't recognize the correct partitions | 05:42 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: then I tried to install it from the alternate cd | 05:42 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: same result after reboot | 05:42 |
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| hyper_ch | somerville32: then I treid to install it into an own partition | 05:42 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: same results as before | 05:43 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: now I tried to create manual grub entries --> but it won't work either [as I don't know what I need to do there] | 05:43 |
| somerville32 | Do you have a separate partition for /boot ? | 05:44 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: nope | 05:44 |
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| somerville32 | How did it not recognize the correct partitions? What error did you get? | 05:46 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: I don't remember the exact error message | 05:47 |
| hyper_ch | it just told it can't find the partition | 05:47 |
| somerville32 | Are you on the live cd or something now? | 05:48 |
| hyper_ch | no | 05:49 |
| hyper_ch | put in edgy alternate cd | 05:49 |
| hyper_ch | reinstalled grub | 05:49 |
| somerville32 | So are you running Feisty now? | 05:49 |
| hyper_ch | no, edgy | 05:50 |
| somerville32 | ok | 05:51 |
| somerville32 | Are you interested in trying to upgrade to Feisty again? | 05:51 |
| hyper_ch | feisty is installed | 05:51 |
| hyper_ch | but I can't get grub to start it | 05:52 |
| somerville32 | So, grub offers you the option to boot into Edgy or Feisty? | 05:52 |
| hyper_ch | no it doesn't | 05:52 |
| hyper_ch | just offers now edgy | 05:52 |
| hyper_ch | after I have reinstlled grub from the edgy alternate cd | 05:53 |
| hyper_ch | I tried to add an entry for feisty but that doesn't work either | 05:53 |
| somerville32 | Please pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst | 05:55 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: http://phpfi.com/194787 | 05:56 |
| somerville32 | It appears Feisty is listed there | 05:58 |
| hyper_ch | because I added it manually but that doesn't work | 05:58 |
| somerville32 | run update-grub | 06:00 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: nothing has changed | 06:01 |
| somerville32 | Most interesting | 06:02 |
| hyper_ch | :( | 06:04 |
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| hyper_ch | somerville32: most annoying | 06:07 |
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| somerville32 | What partition is Feisty installed to? | 06:09 |
| hyper_ch | --> /dev/sda5 | 06:10 |
| somerville32 | The reason your Feisty boot thinger isn't working is because it is pointing to the same partition as Windows is | 06:12 |
| somerville32 | So I assume one is wrong | 06:12 |
| hyper_ch | oh... hmm... so what do I have to enter then? | 06:12 |
| somerville32 | The correct partition :P | 06:13 |
| somerville32 | You only have one hard drive? | 06:13 |
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| decaelo | What's happenin? | 06:16 |
| decaelo | Snow day? | 06:17 |
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| somerville32 | Welcome back hyper_ch | 06:20 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: I have 4 harddisks | 06:21 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: for some reasons sometimes my wifi just fails | 06:21 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: I have the UUID set... so what's the problem? | 06:23 |
| somerville32 | You set the root to the same as windows | 06:24 |
| somerville32 | Which mean it'll look there to find the kernel | 06:24 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: so what do I have to set there? | 06:26 |
| somerville32 | You would set it to point to the hard drive and partition you have Feisty installed to | 06:26 |
| hyper_ch | how? | 06:27 |
| somerville32 | By modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst | 06:28 |
| hyper_ch | and what to? | 06:28 |
| somerville32 | How would I know? :S | 06:29 |
| somerville32 | It depends on what hard drive and partition you have it installed to | 06:29 |
| hyper_ch | you tell me I use the wrong thing | 06:29 |
| hyper_ch | but I have added the UUID | 06:30 |
| hyper_ch | so what's the problem? | 06:30 |
| somerville32 | The argument you passed to the kernel? | 06:30 |
| somerville32 | That'll set the root partition, yes. | 06:30 |
| somerville32 | But first grub needs to find the kernel | 06:30 |
| somerville32 | and you tell grub it is located on hd0, partition 0 | 06:30 |
| somerville32 | Which is the same as Window's (according to your menu.lst) | 06:30 |
| hyper_ch | ok, so what do I have to change that to then? | 06:31 |
| somerville32 | It depends on what you have Feisty installed to | 06:31 |
| hyper_ch | can I use also the UUID there? | 06:31 |
| somerville32 | No | 06:31 |
| hyper_ch | well, feisty is on sda5 | 06:31 |
| hyper_ch | so what do I have to enter there? | 06:32 |
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| somerville32 | Can you list all your partitions? | 06:35 |
| hyper_ch | yes | 06:35 |
| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: could you try replacing root (hd0,0) with root (sd0,4), but only under the feisty entry, and see if that works? | 06:35 |
| hyper_ch | ok,t rying | 06:36 |
| grazie | I picked up a load of updates for my ppc machine yesterday, but none for x86 machine | 06:36 |
| grazie | anyone know why that could be? | 06:36 |
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| hyper_ch | error parsing number | 06:40 |
| somerville32 | grazie: I think there is a cron job that automatically apt-get updates | 06:45 |
| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: sudo grub | 06:45 |
| somerville32 | Your x86 machine just might not be aware of the updates yet | 06:45 |
| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: then "root ( <tab>" and let us know what that outputs | 06:46 |
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| hyper_ch | grub> root | 06:46 |
| hyper_ch | Possible commands are: root rootnoverify | 06:46 |
| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: root, then a space, then ( , and then hit the tab key | 06:47 |
| hyper_ch | grub> root (hd | 06:47 |
| hyper_ch | Possible disks are: hd0 hd1 hd2 hd3 | 06:47 |
| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: also, putting the UUIDs in there seems strange to me, for the time being I would change them back to root=/dev/sda5 or whatever device you end up putting feisty on | 06:48 |
| hyper_ch | I think it might be hd3,4 | 06:48 |
| gabkdlly | hyper_ch: that means that grub is not seeing your sda drive | 06:48 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: I have only 4 harddisks | 06:49 |
| hyper_ch | and 4 are being displayed | 06:49 |
| hyper_ch | or is the dvd-rw also being displayed? | 06:49 |
| gabkdlly | no, shouldn't be | 06:49 |
| gabkdlly | for some reason I was thinking that you had a SATA drive additionally. my bad | 06:50 |
| hyper_ch | gabkdlly: that's true | 06:50 |
| hyper_ch | 3x IDE | 06:50 |
| hyper_ch | 1x SATA | 06:50 |
| gabkdlly | Well, you have to configure grub to point to one of those four that grub can see | 06:50 |
| hyper_ch | and feisty is on the SATA | 06:50 |
| gabkdlly | then try root (hd3,4) and see what happens | 06:51 |
| gabkdlly | I know it might not be a bunch of fun, but if that does not work, you could cycle through the available ones (i.e. hd0, hd1, ...) | 06:51 |
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| hyper_ch | somerville32: it's now feisty time | 07:21 |
| somerville32 | You got it to work? :) | 07:21 |
| hyper_ch | yes | 07:22 |
| gabkdlly | excellent! :) | 07:22 |
| hyper_ch | however the quicklauncher items aren't there anymore | 07:22 |
| hyper_ch | and some repos are missing.. like Seveas' | 07:22 |
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| grazie | somerville32, No, I picked up updates like FF 2.0.0.1 for ppc, but not for x86. Why would that be? | 07:48 |
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| somerville32 | Maybe you already have them, you just don't know? | 07:48 |
| somerville32 | Do they use different mirrors? | 07:49 |
| gabkdlly | Wasn't FF 2.0.0.1 standard on Edgy CDs? | 07:49 |
| gabkdlly | it would not surprise me that new software makes it into x86 sooner than into ppc, since the user base for x86 is bigger | 07:51 |
| grazie | somerville32, No I keep both machines update to pretty regularly and there;s lots of differences. I'll check the mirrors. | 07:52 |
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| grazie | gpocentek, ppc has updates, x86 hasn't?! | 07:53 |
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| grazie | sorry gabkdlly ^^ | 07:54 |
| gpocentek | :) | 07:54 |
| gpocentek | x86 has updates too | 07:55 |
| grazie | not for me! | 07:55 |
| gpocentek | do you have -updates enabled in your sources.list? | 07:56 |
| grazie | gpocentek, I've not added the parameter to either file, but I'll check | 07:57 |
| grazie | also, the updates on ppc have resulted in loss of sound | 07:58 |
| grazie | so I'm looking at that too | 07:58 |
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| grazie | sources.lst for both ppc and x86 are the same, except I've added the wine repo to x86. | 08:03 |
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| waky | Alle Oberbayern / Schwaben haben morschen schulfrei macht ihr tages guck http://www.tagesschau.de/ sorry for the german language | 08:07 |
| age6racer | Hi all, how do I mget an entire directory and it's subdirectories with smbclient in terminal? | 08:07 |
| hyper_ch | hiho :) | 08:09 |
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| kalikiana | hi | 08:11 |
| somerville32 | age6racer, You could always mount it and then use cp -r | 08:11 |
| hyper_ch | who is using feisty? | 08:12 |
| kalikiana | me :) | 08:13 |
| hyper_ch | kalikiana: do you use vmware? | 08:14 |
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| kalikiana | nope | 08:14 |
| hyper_ch | :) | 08:15 |
| hyper_ch | that doesn't work for me | 08:15 |
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| tictacaddict | does anyone know a way that I can monitor a directory and perform an action on any new files that are created in it? | 09:15 |
| somerville32 | You could use an intrusion detection system | 09:17 |
| somerville32 | I also think there is a program called tripwire that does something like that | 09:17 |
| tictacaddict | I will look into that. | 09:19 |
| Maximilian1st | Hi folks. | 09:21 |
| Maximilian1st | I have a question about herd2 | 09:21 |
| Maximilian1st | Did the Terminal within Xfce loose it's utf8 capability? | 09:21 |
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| Maximilian1st | I can't see special accents and stuff... | 09:22 |
| Maximilian1st | I never had to install anything to have them before. | 09:22 |
| Maximilian1st | Isn't it installed by default anymore? | 09:22 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | I can even insert kana in my Terminal. | 09:24 |
| Maximilian1st | So there is something with my installation. good to know that it works. You are using herd2, aren't you? | 09:25 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | Me? No, it's Edgy most of the time. | 09:26 |
| Maximilian1st | Isn't herd2 the feisty beta? | 09:27 |
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| somerville32 | Alpha | 09:27 |
| kalikiana|rejoin | Yes it is, but I don't use it 'normally', i.e. except when I play a little around. | 09:28 |
| hyper_ch | somerville32: Maximilian1st: has any of you tried to install vmware on herd 2? | 09:28 |
| somerville32 | no | 09:28 |
| Maximilian1st | So by default there is no support for special accents in the alpha. That is my conclusion. hyper_ch nope, I use a laptop with 512 ram so it's not really the right machine to play with. | 09:28 |
| Maximilian1st | When I say no support I mean in Xfce's Terminal, because it works in the normal console. Also, they don't appear in xchat "?" "?" can you see these? | 09:30 |
| slow-motion | n8 | 09:30 |
| Maximilian1st | I have something special here. If I launch a new Terminal window from within an existing one, I will still not get the accents but... if I launch using root from within an existing Terminal I will have the accents. any clue as to what is wrong? | 09:33 |
| Maximilian1st | something to do with the locale? from my user? | 09:33 |
| Maximilian1st | Also, I confirmed a hang in the booting process with the sk98lin driver. I can also confirm that it won't load when using the restricted modules from the packages, probably due to this driver also. | 09:35 |
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| nukeslion | hello :D | 10:32 |
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| nukeslion | anyone get WPA to work? im having trouble with it :( | 10:52 |
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| snook353 | what is a power-point-like app besides openoffice impress? | 11:16 |
| hyper_ch | snook353: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software | 11:18 |
| snook353 | thanks | 11:19 |
| snook353 | i heard someone mention some german-based app for powerpoint and openoffice alternative | 11:20 |
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| cellofellow | snook353: koffice is gernam | 11:36 |
| cellofellow | german* | 11:36 |
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| cellofellow | snook353: but honestly, I can't think of any besides openoffice and koffice. | 11:38 |
| gunny01 | no gnome office app for powerpoint | 12:18 |
| cellofellow | not even google office. (yet) | 12:19 |
| cellofellow | It's Impress and KPresent | 12:19 |
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| cellofellow | new screenshots: http://mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com/screenshots | 12:29 |
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