=== dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-15-204.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === orb9220 [n=orb@70.57.126.19] has joined #xubuntu === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-15-204.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === quad3datwork2 [n=quad3dat@12.110.209.75] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp151-37.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:48] is there a way to lock the screen in xubuntu [12:50] You can give yourself a 'lockscreen' button. right click on the panel and add an 'Action Button' === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu [01:22] Kraken: thanks === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp151-37.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu [] [01:23] Too late, but to get a New Login button, add a launcher to run gdmflexiserver. Use the Login Window icon. Works great. === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === oem [n=oem@71-11-151-205.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:32] it is so difficult to get my nvidia card to work [01:33] what's up with it? === priit__ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [01:35] cellofellow, it says that it has insufficient dependincies when i try to install the driver so i am reinstalling everything nvidia related at the moment [01:36] what where you installing [01:36] cellofellow: did you go to that link?//////////// [01:36] nvidia drivers [01:36] you shouldnt have a problem [01:36] Jester45: the one where the NYTImes guy reviews vista. Yeah, funny. [01:36] from my site? [01:37] ?? no, I found that on Google Video and downloaded it there. Faster. [01:37] o [01:37] well shame on you [01:38] That [01:38] That's where you got it, isn't it? [01:38] thats all the stuff i want to do is bend windows [01:38] school-at-home.blogspot.com [01:38] yes [01:38] ? [01:38] go there. [01:39] thats yours? === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-160-34-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [01:40] yes [01:40] so is mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com and cellofellow.homelinux.net [01:40] copying my hard searching [01:40] LOL. Google Video has a button for posting to blogs. [01:41] so... [01:41] i showed you them, === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d44-215.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-144-36-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === nosiop [i=not@gateway/tor/x-7bb22c576e22df5a] has joined #xubuntu [02:17] is there a way to force synaptic package manager to download files instead of looking for them on the cdrom? [02:17] nosiop, yes [02:17] Commander-Crowe: ah, and how does one do so? [02:18] by editing the source.list which is located in /etc/apt/ [02:18] ok, thank you [02:20] nosiop, You can also use Applications > System > Software Sources and disable your cd-rom [02:20] somerville32, does that work yet? I always was unable to get it to work, or it'll screw stuff up [02:20] well, I still want all the packages listed [02:21] Right [02:21] just comment out the cdrom:/// stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list [02:21] I just don't want it to try and read them off the CD-ROM [02:21] ok [02:21] You just want to disable the cdrom as a source === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:21] workes like a charm, thanks :) [02:21] I enabled DVD just cause I wanted something faster than internet. [02:22] but... you have to dl the dvd [02:22] I got it from a freind who subscribes to Linux magazine [02:23] internet is much faster than cd/dvd when you have no drive ;) [02:23] haha, true true [02:23] but when I install from CD, I don't have to wait at all, it installs so freakin fast. === DarthShrine [n=angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu [02:23] faster internet? [02:24] I wish [02:24] Afternoon. === Jester45 wants 1TB/s [02:24] then i would be set [02:24] hi === WiZarD-X [n=bob@ip68-13-106-67.om.om.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:32] i'm attempting to install amarok, but it is not recognizing that i already have mysql-common loaded. can anyone offer any help on this? === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] use sql-lite? [02:33] try #kubuntu for kde app support, sorry. :( [02:33] aight, thanks bud === WiZarD-X [n=bob@ip68-13-106-67.om.om.cox.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === Torist [n=linux@adsl-70-241-11-206.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === Torist [n=linux@adsl-70-241-11-206.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #xubuntu [] === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-216-43-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === semi-fly [n=public@c-68-42-205-204.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-254-148.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] Hi bur[n] er === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@R77a9.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === MGizmo [n=MGizmo@c-75-72-163-181.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === MGizmo [n=MGizmo@c-75-72-163-181.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === j1mc [n=j1m@63.119.12.146] has joined #xubuntu === decaelo [n=decaelo@CPE00500471c243-CM0011ae8dd0a0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-181-87.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.30] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d44-215.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:13] can i use a 2nd mouse as a shortcut to launch programs? [04:13] or will it be detected and still act like 1 mouse === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] it'll act like one mouse [04:20] darn === priit__ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] although i saw some sort of driver on the net changing that [04:21] oo [04:21] 2nd keyboard [04:21] but neither know i where it was nor do i believe it worked anyway [04:21] lots of lauchers === oem_ [n=oem@71-11-151-205.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.30] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === boris55 [n=richards@169.charlotte-18rh15rt.nc.dial-access.att.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:39] I'm crying. my brother wiped xubuntu off my other computer and replaced it with anothe xfce distro. === nosiop wipes that off there and installs FreeBSD [05:59] :) === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.30] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.30] has joined #xubuntu === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-223-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #xubuntu [06:30] How do I install the Murrine GTK Engine? [06:30] Nothing in the repositories. [06:31] I don't think. [06:31] !murrine [06:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about murrine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:31] blast [06:34] well, google helped. === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === fish [n=yhy@58.212.227.253] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.30] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === oem__ [n=oem@71-11-151-205.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === underpope [n=underpop@adsl-63-207-85-31.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:03] Anyone available to offer some assistance? === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [08:10] !anyone [08:10] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [08:16] I suspect that something I installed through apt-get yesterday is making OpenOffice.org suddenly run really slow (five minutes just to launch -- this is brand new behavior as of today). Is there anything that might have come through the pipe that might be doing this? [08:20] Sorry, that was unclear: something through apt-get dist-upgrade. [08:21] Nothing I've heard of. Have you tried running 'top' while launching OOo? You may get an idea of what's slowing it down, that way. [08:23] soffice.bin is consuming about 14% of the memory; xorg about 4.5%. There are a couple of xfce processes that come in and out. [08:25] Is that while it's running, or while it's launching? [08:26] That's while it's runnin. [08:29] And is there any particular problem with responsiveness while it's running, or just while it's launching? === kalikiana|rejoin [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-33-133.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [08:32] There's painfully slow lag time while OOo is running as well. Lots of disk activity. It has taken six minutes (so far) to open a brand new document. I have already tried purging OOo and reinstalling it. [08:34] Sorry, forgot to mention: this is Edgy. [08:42] underpope: java [08:42] Does it make much of a difference if Java usage is enabled/disabled? (Tools -> options -> openoffice.org -> java) [08:42] TheSheep++ === nosiop [i=not@gateway/tor/x-7bb22c576e22df5a] has left #xubuntu [] [08:53] Hm, Flash 9 has been officially released. === linux_user24 [n=cristi@86.125.67.243] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@upcoguildford.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === ki [n=ki_escap@c211-30-82-242.blktn4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [09:45] Hi guys! [09:45] Hello? [09:46] I would like to know some things about xubuntu. [09:46] 1. What version of xfce does it run? [09:47] 2. Can it install debs? [09:47] 3. What is the *buntu package manager like? [09:47] 4. Does it automount? [09:48] 5. Does it have an AMD64 edition? [09:49] 6. Does it support my hardware? Realtek rtl8187 wifi I believe which would not compile from source, nvidia geforce7900 or something, but nvidia isn't usually a problem with linux. [09:50] (I can't check hardware specifically because my dads friend took it to repair the motherboard). [09:50] *I mean the drivers would not compile from source, they existed though. [09:50] 7. What kernel version does it run? [09:51] ki: 1. 4.4beta2 (depending on xubuntu's version) [09:51] ki: 1. yes, doulbe-click in Thunar [09:51] oh thats good :) as long as it is above 4.2 [09:51] ki: 3. Synaptic, Aptutude, apt [09:51] what? double click in thunar? what? [09:52] Thunar is the default filemanager and double-clicking on a deb installs it [09:52] 3. how many packages do they have and do they auto-resolve dependencies? [09:52] oh thats cool! installs it wizard style? [09:52] hey, I can still do apt-get in terminal, right? Like how I can do port install in freebsd? [09:52] and wizard style like PBI installer? [09:53] it's a nice dialog telling you e.g. description, dependencies and more [09:53] apt-get works as well, yes [09:53] so it doesn't autoresolve dependencies, but it tells me dependencies at least so I can get them? [09:53] it tries to get them automatically [09:53] sorry I have so many questions. [09:53] :) [09:54] 4. Thunar does that I think [09:54] 5. i believe so [09:54] oh good :) [09:55] 7. Edgy: 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP [09:55] what is the difference between thunar and xffm? (only just switched to xfce today, long time kde user and lover who wanted to try something new) [09:55] Edgy? sounds very debian :). [09:55] xffm is a whole suite of utilities, Thunar is only a filemanager === echosystm [n=echosyst@dsl-203-113-236-74.SA.netspace.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [09:56] 2.6.17? DAMN! That means no vmware workstation. Upgrading the kernel isn't a problem right? Some Linux distros won't do it.. [09:56] Edgy Eft is Xubuntu 6.1 [09:56] okay :) [09:56] Xubuntu sounds very ubuntu just without gnome. [09:56] but thats okay, I like the look of gnome but xfce is better. [09:56] it's still ubuntu of course [09:57] xfce is more standards and less bloated [09:57] compiling kernel is possible [09:57] hey, is there a way to put shortcuts on desktop with xfce? I find the background sort of...useless. [09:57] yes [09:57] is it easy though? can I just open update manager and bam, or atleast download through a package manager? [09:58] you meaning kernel compiling? there is a package for that, I'm not sure what exactly is in there [09:58] didn't do it for some time === kalikiana|rejoin is now known as kalikiana [10:01] okay. [10:01] just that vmware hates anything below 2.6.18 [10:02] anyway, is wifi easy to set up with wep and everything? === firefish [n=yhy@58.212.227.253] has joined #xubuntu [10:03] oh yeah, does xgl work fine? === rob1 [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #xubuntu [10:04] and you know how it only includes free as in freedom software? With an update can I get propietry 3d nvidia/ati drivers and mp3 playback, etc? [10:05] you can get proprietary packages, e.g. easyubuntu [10:05] what is this easyubuntu? [10:05] xgl works fine depending on the gfx card, for me (ati9800) it's fine [10:06] easyubuntu is one GUI tool which install non-free things [10:06] but it's not from canonical directly [10:06] what I mean is, is the update manager good? and does it install mp3 playback when you install like suse? === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:07] the updatemanager is fine (although i personally use synaptic for about everything) [10:07] or you have to get easy ubuntu, search for mp3, dvd, 3d driver and so on then install individually and manually? [10:07] what filesystem does it use? [10:08] repos do include non-free but easyubuntu helps you set drivers up [10:08] filesystem is ext3 by default [10:08] nice. [10:08] man, don't you get that infos from the web? :P [10:09] I can I suppose. [10:09] just thought it would be easier if you were willing :) [10:10] also manpages don't answer most questions. [10:10] one more thing, can it handle autopackages out of the box? [10:12] nope, needs to install autopackage normally [10:12] now I gotta go, so maybe see ya later :) === kalikiana is now known as kalikiana|away [10:14] thanks kalikiana! [10:19] Yay I'm downloading Xubuntu. [10:19] I hope wifi is easy, otherwise sounds nice :). === grazie [n=grazie@host86-138-229-51.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:31] Did an apt-get update yesterday and I've lost sound. Any suggestions? === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp151-37.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:55] i installed xgl/beryl and that worked fine. however, when i went back to my regular xfce desktop, only one of the virtual desktops icons appears in the lower right hand corner of the screen and i can't find a way to get it back. any help? [10:57] gunny01: stettings->worksapces settings === Tajmox [n=chatzill@c-69-181-11-2.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:57] TheSheep: thnx [10:57] how do i take a screenshot? [10:58] i dont want the panel icon but thats the only way i can take a screenshot? [10:59] Tajmox: you can use one of the commandline tools, and bind it to a keypress [10:59] Tajmox: you could do it throu x but that is hardish. [10:59] Tajmox: hold on and I'll consolt a lxf [11:00] er...scratch that. [11:01] might be easist just to make a panel icon and delete it afterwards :-D [11:04] what command would that be ? [11:04] for a screenshot [11:04] and where are key bindings in xfce ?? I havent set up my media keys because I cant find it [11:05] Tajmox: bindings are in settings->keyboard [11:05] oic different than gnome im looking for where to set my media buttons - they work in gnome but not in xfce [11:08] Tajmox: not sure about media buttons [11:09] Tajmox: I think you need to find some howto on the forums [11:09] Tajmox: for the screenshot, there is the 'import' command in ImageMigick, for exmaple [11:09] Tajmox: or 'scrap' program [11:09] !scrap [11:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about scrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:09] !screenshot [11:09] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button or the File -> Acquire menu in the GIMP. 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[04:47] gabkdlly: yes [04:47] gabkdlly: I also tried getting it installed into hda5 [04:47] where the current root is === tim__ [n=tim@host81-158-14-28.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:51] did you mean to overwrite what was in hda5 before? or do you mean that you wanted to make hda5 the boot partition? [04:51] was hda5 your boot partition before? === Commander-Crowe [n=Robert@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu [04:53] gabkdlly: hda5 is the root of edgy [04:54] gabkdlly: I tried to install from a alternate cd feisty herd2 there [04:54] gabkdlly: I selected the data in hda5 to be formatted [04:54] gabkdlly: however after restart, grub had problems finding the right stuff [04:54] gabkdlly: then I shrinked my backup harddisk [04:54] gabkdlly: setup a new 30gb partition there [04:54] gabkdlly: of course I first installed edgy again in hda5 [04:55] the 30gb partition there is /dev/sda5 [04:55] on my system, mount tells me that hdc5 is for swap, and hdc1 is root, which I guess tells my by process of illimination that hdc2 must be the boot partition [04:55] gabkdlly: I installed feisty there... same result... upon booting grub couldn't do anything [04:55] gabkdlly: so I used the edgy cd again booted into recovery mode and isntalled grub again [04:55] gabkdlly: now I can at least boot into edgy again [04:57] gabkdlly: I did now alter the grub menu.lst : http://phpfi.com/194776 --> not sure if that works === Xemanth [n=xemanth@dsl-hkigw7-fe1af900-42.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #Xubuntu [04:59] so, I guess you are booting from two different hard drives, eh? [04:59] doesn't Grub start counting partitions at zero? [05:00] gabkdlly: I have 4 harddrives [05:00] 3x IDE [05:00] 1x SATA [05:00] and it just totally mixes that all up [05:01] To me, it looks like your Feisty menu entries refer to a fifth hard drive =-O === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p548DD890.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:02] a sixth partition on the fifth hard drive, to be exact === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === priit__ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [05:03] gabkdlly: well, I also have a dvd-rw attached to one of the ide cables [05:03] hallo [05:03] hence it should be drive 5... shouldn't it? [05:05] !uuid [05:05] To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === totalwormage [n=worm@225-131.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:19] hyper_ch: if you are talking about hda5 (as seen in /dev/ ) wouldn't that correspond to (hd0,4) in Grub terminology? [05:20] gabkdlly: it's sda5 :) [05:20] anyway, in #ubuntu+1 I was told to use UUIDs in grub :) [05:20] it looks now like that: http://phpfi.com/194779 [05:21] you are now installing Feisty into what used to be your Windows partition? [05:22] no, windows is hda1 [05:23] I have to admit, it is a bit over my head :( [05:23] gabkdlly: 4 harddisks [05:23] gabkdlly: 60GB [05:23] gabkdlly: 120 GB [05:23] gabkdlly: 160 GB [05:23] gabkdlly: 320 GB [05:23] the 120 ons is hda1 [05:24] gabkdlly: the 160 is hdd1 [05:24] gabkdlly: the 120 is hdc1 [05:24] and the 320gb is now sda1+5 [05:24] the 120gb disk contains a 30 GB partiton for windows, a 3gb swap, a 15 gb edgy and the rest is /home === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@212-41-116-218.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #xubuntu [05:27] hyper_ch: which is your boot partition? [05:29] gabkdlly: for what sys? [05:31] hyper_ch: when you partitioned your drives, didn't you designate one (exactly one) of them to be the boot partition? [05:31] gabkdlly: I did [05:31] gabkdlly: /dev/sda5 [05:32] I'll try now with my altered grub menu [05:32] you did: grub-install /dev/sda5 ? === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-217.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [05:35] that didn't work === totalwor1age [n=worm@225-131.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:38] hyper_ch, What are you trying to do? [05:41] somerville32: trying to get feisty to run [05:42] How are you trying to get it to work? [05:42] somerville32: I tried an upgrade from edgy [05:42] somerville32: after reboob grub didn't recognize the correct partitions [05:42] somerville32: then I tried to install it from the alternate cd [05:42] somerville32: same result after reboot === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [05:42] somerville32: then I treid to install it into an own partition [05:43] somerville32: same results as before [05:43] somerville32: now I tried to create manual grub entries --> but it won't work either [as I don't know what I need to do there] [05:44] Do you have a separate partition for /boot ? [05:44] somerville32: nope === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu [05:46] How did it not recognize the correct partitions? What error did you get? [05:47] somerville32: I don't remember the exact error message [05:47] it just told it can't find the partition [05:48] Are you on the live cd or something now? [05:49] no [05:49] put in edgy alternate cd [05:49] reinstalled grub [05:49] So are you running Feisty now? [05:50] no, edgy [05:51] ok [05:51] Are you interested in trying to upgrade to Feisty again? [05:51] feisty is installed [05:52] but I can't get grub to start it [05:52] So, grub offers you the option to boot into Edgy or Feisty? [05:52] no it doesn't [05:52] just offers now edgy [05:53] after I have reinstlled grub from the edgy alternate cd [05:53] I tried to add an entry for feisty but that doesn't work either [05:55] Please pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst [05:56] somerville32: http://phpfi.com/194787 [05:58] It appears Feisty is listed there [05:58] because I added it manually but that doesn't work [06:00] run update-grub [06:01] somerville32: nothing has changed [06:02] Most interesting [06:04] :( === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [06:07] somerville32: most annoying === tictacaddict [n=josh@237.97.dhcp.hope.edu] has joined #xubuntu [06:09] What partition is Feisty installed to? [06:10] --> /dev/sda5 [06:12] The reason your Feisty boot thinger isn't working is because it is pointing to the same partition as Windows is [06:12] So I assume one is wrong [06:12] oh... hmm... so what do I have to enter then? [06:13] The correct partition :P [06:13] You only have one hard drive? === decaelo [n=decaelo@CPE00500471c243-CM0011ae8dd0a0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@R775f.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 waves at decaelo. === decaelo waves back! [06:16] What's happenin? [06:17] Snow day? === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-217.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [06:20] Welcome back hyper_ch [06:21] somerville32: I have 4 harddisks [06:21] somerville32: for some reasons sometimes my wifi just fails [06:23] somerville32: I have the UUID set... so what's the problem? [06:24] You set the root to the same as windows [06:24] Which mean it'll look there to find the kernel [06:26] somerville32: so what do I have to set there? [06:26] You would set it to point to the hard drive and partition you have Feisty installed to [06:27] how? [06:28] By modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst [06:28] and what to? [06:29] How would I know? :S [06:29] It depends on what hard drive and partition you have it installed to [06:29] you tell me I use the wrong thing [06:30] but I have added the UUID [06:30] so what's the problem? [06:30] The argument you passed to the kernel? [06:30] That'll set the root partition, yes. [06:30] But first grub needs to find the kernel [06:30] and you tell grub it is located on hd0, partition 0 [06:30] Which is the same as Window's (according to your menu.lst) [06:31] ok, so what do I have to change that to then? [06:31] It depends on what you have Feisty installed to [06:31] can I use also the UUID there? [06:31] No [06:31] well, feisty is on sda5 [06:32] so what do I have to enter there? === grazie [n=grazie@host86-144-139-22.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:35] Can you list all your partitions? [06:35] yes [06:35] hyper_ch: could you try replacing root (hd0,0) with root (sd0,4), but only under the feisty entry, and see if that works? [06:36] ok,t rying [06:36] I picked up a load of updates for my ppc machine yesterday, but none for x86 machine [06:36] anyone know why that could be? === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-217.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [06:40] error parsing number [06:45] grazie: I think there is a cron job that automatically apt-get updates [06:45] hyper_ch: sudo grub [06:45] Your x86 machine just might not be aware of the updates yet [06:46] hyper_ch: then "root ( " and let us know what that outputs === vinze [n=vtunru@adsl-dc-22455.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #xubuntu [06:46] grub> root [06:46] Possible commands are: root rootnoverify [06:47] hyper_ch: root, then a space, then ( , and then hit the tab key [06:47] grub> root (hd [06:47] Possible disks are: hd0 hd1 hd2 hd3 [06:48] hyper_ch: also, putting the UUIDs in there seems strange to me, for the time being I would change them back to root=/dev/sda5 or whatever device you end up putting feisty on [06:48] I think it might be hd3,4 [06:48] hyper_ch: that means that grub is not seeing your sda drive [06:49] gabkdlly: I have only 4 harddisks [06:49] and 4 are being displayed [06:49] or is the dvd-rw also being displayed? [06:49] no, shouldn't be [06:50] for some reason I was thinking that you had a SATA drive additionally. my bad [06:50] gabkdlly: that's true [06:50] 3x IDE [06:50] 1x SATA [06:50] Well, you have to configure grub to point to one of those four that grub can see [06:50] and feisty is on the SATA [06:51] then try root (hd3,4) and see what happens [06:51] I know it might not be a bunch of fun, but if that does not work, you could cycle through the available ones (i.e. hd0, hd1, ...) === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-217.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [07:21] somerville32: it's now feisty time [07:21] You got it to work? :) [07:22] yes [07:22] excellent! :) [07:22] however the quicklauncher items aren't there anymore [07:22] and some repos are missing.. like Seveas' === totalwormage [n=worm@225-131.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #xubuntu === lonnb [n=lonnb@i-83-67-202-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu [07:48] somerville32, No, I picked up updates like FF 2.0.0.1 for ppc, but not for x86. Why would that be? === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [07:48] Maybe you already have them, you just don't know? [07:49] Do they use different mirrors? [07:49] Wasn't FF 2.0.0.1 standard on Edgy CDs? [07:51] it would not surprise me that new software makes it into x86 sooner than into ppc, since the user base for x86 is bigger [07:52] somerville32, No I keep both machines update to pretty regularly and there;s lots of differences. I'll check the mirrors. === totalwor1age [n=worm@225-131.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:53] gpocentek, ppc has updates, x86 hasn't?! === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [07:54] sorry gabkdlly ^^ [07:54] :) [07:55] x86 has updates too [07:55] not for me! [07:56] do you have -updates enabled in your sources.list? [07:57] gpocentek, I've not added the parameter to either file, but I'll check [07:58] also, the updates on ppc have resulted in loss of sound [07:58] so I'm looking at that too === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-217.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [08:03] sources.lst for both ppc and x86 are the same, except I've added the wine repo to x86. === age6racer [n=age6race@87.117.110.160] has joined #xubuntu [08:07] Alle Oberbayern / Schwaben haben morschen schulfrei macht ihr tages guck http://www.tagesschau.de/ sorry for the german language [08:07] Hi all, how do I mget an entire directory and it's subdirectories with smbclient in terminal? [08:09] hiho :) === kalikiana|away is now known as kalikiana [08:11] hi [08:11] age6racer, You could always mount it and then use cp -r [08:12] who is using feisty? [08:13] me :) [08:14] kalikiana: do you use vmware? === totalwormage [n=worm@225-131.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:14] nope [08:15] :) [08:15] that doesn't work for me === somerville32_ [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034092135.nb.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu === priit__ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === tuna__ [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana|rejoin [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-120-52.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === gripir [n=gripir@p549CC868.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@95.52.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #xubuntu [09:15] does anyone know a way that I can monitor a directory and perform an action on any new files that are created in it? [09:17] You could use an intrusion detection system [09:17] I also think there is a program called tripwire that does something like that [09:19] I will look into that. [09:21] Hi folks. [09:21] I have a question about herd2 [09:21] Did the Terminal within Xfce loose it's utf8 capability? === somerville32 is unsure. [09:22] I can't see special accents and stuff... [09:22] I never had to install anything to have them before. [09:22] Isn't it installed by default anymore? [09:24] I can even insert kana in my Terminal. [09:25] So there is something with my installation. good to know that it works. You are using herd2, aren't you? [09:26] Me? No, it's Edgy most of the time. [09:27] Isn't herd2 the feisty beta? === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-102-176-128.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:27] Alpha [09:28] Yes it is, but I don't use it 'normally', i.e. except when I play a little around. [09:28] somerville32: Maximilian1st: has any of you tried to install vmware on herd 2? [09:28] no [09:28] So by default there is no support for special accents in the alpha. That is my conclusion. hyper_ch nope, I use a laptop with 512 ram so it's not really the right machine to play with. [09:30] When I say no support I mean in Xfce's Terminal, because it works in the normal console. Also, they don't appear in xchat "?" "?" can you see these? [09:30] n8 [09:33] I have something special here. If I launch a new Terminal window from within an existing one, I will still not get the accents but... if I launch using root from within an existing Terminal I will have the accents. any clue as to what is wrong? [09:33] something to do with the locale? from my user? [09:35] Also, I confirmed a hang in the booting process with the sk98lin driver. 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[11:18] snook353: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software [11:19] thanks [11:20] i heard someone mention some german-based app for powerpoint and openoffice alternative === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=jaagaan@johannesleroux.co.za] has joined #xubuntu [11:36] snook353: koffice is gernam [11:36] german* === nukeslion [i=nukeslio@cpe-72-185-127-198.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [11:38] snook353: but honestly, I can't think of any besides openoffice and koffice. [12:18] no gnome office app for powerpoint [12:19] not even google office. (yet) [12:19] It's Impress and KPresent === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@95.52.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #xubuntu === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 === cslater [n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-235-181.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:29] new screenshots: http://mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com/screenshots