[12:48] <gunny01> is there a way to lock the screen in xubuntu
[12:50] <Kraken> You can give yourself a 'lockscreen' button. right click on the panel and add an 'Action Button'
[01:22] <gunny01> Kraken: thanks
[01:23] <cellofellow> Too late, but to get a New Login button, add a launcher to run gdmflexiserver. Use the Login Window icon. Works great.
[01:32] <bigfuzzyjesus> it is so difficult to get my nvidia card to work
[01:33] <cellofellow> what's up with it?
[01:35] <bigfuzzyjesus> cellofellow, it says that it has insufficient dependincies when i try to install the driver so i am reinstalling everything nvidia related at the moment
[01:36] <Jester45> what where you installing
[01:36] <Jester45> cellofellow: did you go to that link?////////////
[01:36] <bigfuzzyjesus> nvidia drivers
[01:36] <Jester45> you shouldnt have a problem
[01:36] <cellofellow> Jester45: the one where the NYTImes guy reviews vista. Yeah, funny.
[01:36] <Jester45> from my site?
[01:37] <cellofellow> ?? no, I found that on Google Video and downloaded it there. Faster.
[01:37] <Jester45> o
[01:37] <Jester45> well shame on you
[01:38] <cellofellow> That
[01:38] <cellofellow> That's where you got it, isn't it?
[01:38] <Jester45> thats all the stuff i want to do is bend windows
[01:38] <cellofellow> school-at-home.blogspot.com
[01:38] <Jester45> yes
[01:38] <Jester45> ?
[01:38] <cellofellow> go there.
[01:39] <Jester45> thats yours?
[01:40] <cellofellow> yes
[01:40] <cellofellow> so is mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com and cellofellow.homelinux.net
[01:40] <Jester45> copying my hard searching
[01:40] <cellofellow> LOL. Google Video has a button for posting to blogs.
[01:41] <Jester45> so...
[01:41] <Jester45> i showed you them,
[02:17] <nosiop> is there a way to force synaptic package manager to download files instead of looking for them on the cdrom?
[02:17] <Commander-Crowe> nosiop, yes
[02:17] <nosiop> Commander-Crowe: ah, and how does one do so?
[02:18] <Commander-Crowe> by editing the source.list which is located in /etc/apt/
[02:18] <nosiop> ok, thank you
[02:20] <somerville32> nosiop, You can also use Applications > System > Software Sources and disable your cd-rom
[02:20] <Commander-Crowe> somerville32, does that work yet? I always was unable to get it to work, or it'll screw stuff up
[02:20] <nosiop> well, I still want all the packages listed
[02:21] <somerville32> Right
[02:21] <cellofellow> just comment out the cdrom:/// stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:21] <nosiop> I just don't want it to try and read them off the CD-ROM
[02:21] <nosiop> ok
[02:21] <somerville32> You just want to disable the cdrom as a source
[02:21] <nosiop> workes like a charm, thanks :)
[02:21] <cellofellow> I enabled DVD just cause I wanted something faster than internet.
[02:22] <Jester45> but... you have to dl the dvd
[02:22] <cellofellow> I got it from a freind who subscribes to Linux magazine
[02:23] <nosiop> internet is much faster than cd/dvd when you have no drive ;)
[02:23] <cellofellow> haha, true true
[02:23] <cellofellow> but when I install from CD, I don't have to wait at all, it installs so freakin fast.
[02:23] <Jester45> faster internet?
[02:24] <cellofellow> I wish
[02:24] <DarthShrine> Afternoon.
[02:24] <Jester45> then i would be set
[02:24] <Jester45> hi
[02:32] <WiZarD-X> i'm attempting to install amarok, but it is not recognizing that i already have mysql-common loaded. can anyone offer any help on this?
[02:33] <Jester45> use sql-lite?
[02:33] <cellofellow> try #kubuntu for kde app support, sorry. :(
[02:33] <WiZarD-X> aight, thanks bud
[03:05] <semi-fly> Hi bur[n] er
[04:13] <Jester45> can i use a 2nd mouse as a shortcut to launch programs?
[04:13] <Jester45> or will it be detected and still act like 1 mouse
[04:20] <kalikiana> it'll act like one mouse
[04:20] <Jester45> darn
[04:20] <kalikiana> although i saw some sort of driver on the net changing that
[04:21] <Jester45> oo
[04:21] <Jester45> 2nd keyboard
[04:21] <kalikiana> but neither know i where it was nor do i believe it worked anyway
[04:21] <Jester45> lots of lauchers
[05:39] <boris55> I'm crying. my brother wiped xubuntu off my other computer and replaced it with anothe xfce distro.
[05:59] <nosiop> :)
[06:30] <cellofellow> How do I install the Murrine GTK Engine?
[06:30] <cellofellow> Nothing in the repositories.
[06:31] <cellofellow> I don't think.
[06:31] <cellofellow> !murrine
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about murrine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <cellofellow> blast
[06:34] <cellofellow> well, google helped.
[08:03] <underpope> Anyone available to offer some assistance?
[08:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !anyone
[08:10] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:16] <underpope> I suspect that something I installed through apt-get yesterday is making OpenOffice.org suddenly run really slow (five minutes just to launch -- this is brand new behavior as of today).  Is there anything that might have come through the pipe that might be doing this?
[08:20] <underpope> Sorry, that was unclear:  something through apt-get dist-upgrade.
[08:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nothing I've heard of.  Have you tried running 'top' while launching OOo?  You may get an idea of what's slowing it down, that way.
[08:23] <underpope> soffice.bin is consuming about 14% of the memory; xorg about 4.5%.  There are a couple of xfce processes that come in and out.
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Is that while it's running, or while it's launching?
[08:26] <underpope> That's while it's runnin.
[08:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> And is there any particular problem with responsiveness while it's running, or just while it's launching?
[08:32] <underpope> There's painfully slow lag time while OOo is running as well.  Lots of disk activity.  It has taken six minutes (so far) to open a brand new document.  I have already tried purging OOo and reinstalling it.
[08:34] <underpope> Sorry, forgot to mention: this is Edgy.
[08:42] <TheSheep> underpope: java
[08:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Does it make much of a difference if Java usage is enabled/disabled?  (Tools -> options -> openoffice.org -> java)
[08:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TheSheep++
[08:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hm, Flash 9 has been officially released.
[09:45] <ki> Hi guys!
[09:45] <ki> Hello?
[09:46] <ki> I would like to know some things about xubuntu.
[09:46] <ki> 1. What version of xfce does it run?
[09:47] <ki> 2.  Can it install debs?
[09:47] <ki> 3. What is the *buntu package manager like?
[09:47] <ki> 4. Does it automount?
[09:48] <ki> 5. Does it have an AMD64 edition?
[09:49] <ki> 6. Does it support my hardware? Realtek rtl8187 wifi I believe which would not compile from source, nvidia geforce7900 or something, but nvidia isn't usually a problem with linux.
[09:50] <ki> (I can't check hardware specifically because my dads friend took it to repair the motherboard).
[09:50] <ki> *I mean the drivers would not compile from source, they existed though.
[09:50] <ki> 7. What kernel version does it run?
[09:51] <kalikiana|rejoin> ki: 1. 4.4beta2 (depending on xubuntu's version)
[09:51] <kalikiana|rejoin> ki: 1. yes, doulbe-click in Thunar
[09:51] <ki> oh thats good :) as long as it is above 4.2
[09:51] <kalikiana|rejoin> ki: 3. Synaptic, Aptutude, apt
[09:51] <ki> what? double click in thunar? what?
[09:52] <kalikiana|rejoin> Thunar is the default filemanager and double-clicking on a deb installs it
[09:52] <ki> 3. how many packages do they have and do they auto-resolve dependencies?
[09:52] <ki> oh thats cool! installs it wizard style?
[09:52] <ki> hey, I can still do apt-get in terminal, right? Like how I can do port install in freebsd?
[09:52] <ki> and wizard style like PBI installer?
[09:53] <kalikiana|rejoin> it's a nice dialog telling you e.g. description, dependencies and more
[09:53] <kalikiana|rejoin> apt-get works as well, yes
[09:53] <ki> so it doesn't autoresolve dependencies, but it tells me dependencies at least so I can get them?
[09:53] <kalikiana|rejoin> it tries to get them automatically
[09:53] <ki> sorry I have so many questions.
[09:53] <kalikiana|rejoin> :)
[09:54] <kalikiana|rejoin> 4. Thunar does that I think
[09:54] <kalikiana|rejoin> 5. i believe so
[09:54] <ki> oh good :)
[09:55] <kalikiana|rejoin> 7. Edgy: 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP
[09:55] <ki> what is the difference between thunar and xffm? (only just switched to xfce today, long time kde user and lover who wanted to try something new)
[09:55] <ki> Edgy? sounds very debian :).
[09:55] <kalikiana|rejoin> xffm is a whole suite of utilities, Thunar is only a filemanager
[09:56] <ki> 2.6.17? DAMN! That means no vmware workstation. Upgrading the kernel isn't a problem right? Some Linux distros won't do it..
[09:56] <kalikiana|rejoin> Edgy Eft is Xubuntu 6.1
[09:56] <ki> okay :)
[09:56] <ki> Xubuntu sounds very ubuntu just without gnome.
[09:56] <ki> but thats okay, I like the look of gnome but xfce is better.
[09:56] <kalikiana|rejoin> it's still ubuntu of course
[09:57] <kalikiana|rejoin> xfce is more standards and less bloated
[09:57] <kalikiana|rejoin> compiling kernel is possible
[09:57] <ki> hey, is there a way to put shortcuts on desktop with xfce? I find the background sort of...useless.
[09:57] <kalikiana|rejoin> yes
[09:57] <ki> is it easy though? can I just open update manager and bam, or atleast download through a package manager?
[09:58] <kalikiana|rejoin> you meaning kernel compiling? there is a package for that, I'm not sure what exactly is in there
[09:58] <kalikiana|rejoin> didn't do it for some time
[10:01] <ki> okay.
[10:01] <ki> just that vmware hates anything below 2.6.18
[10:02] <ki> anyway, is wifi easy to set up with wep and everything?
[10:03] <ki> oh yeah, does xgl work fine?
[10:04] <ki> and you know how it only includes free as in freedom software? With an update can I get propietry 3d nvidia/ati drivers and mp3 playback, etc?
[10:05] <kalikiana> you can get proprietary packages, e.g. easyubuntu
[10:05] <ki> what is this easyubuntu?
[10:05] <kalikiana> xgl works fine depending on the gfx card, for me (ati9800) it's fine
[10:06] <kalikiana> easyubuntu is one GUI tool which install non-free things
[10:06] <kalikiana> but it's not from canonical directly
[10:06] <ki> what I mean is, is the update manager good? and does it install mp3 playback when you install like suse?
[10:07] <kalikiana> the updatemanager is fine (although i personally use synaptic for about everything)
[10:07] <ki> or you have to get easy ubuntu, search for mp3, dvd, 3d driver and so on then install individually and manually?
[10:07] <ki> what filesystem does it use?
[10:08] <kalikiana> repos do include non-free but easyubuntu helps you set drivers up
[10:08] <kalikiana> filesystem is ext3 by default
[10:08] <ki> nice.
[10:08] <kalikiana> man, don't you get that infos from the web? :P
[10:09] <ki> I can I suppose.
[10:09] <ki> just thought it would be easier if you were willing :)
[10:10] <ki> also manpages  don't answer most questions.
[10:10] <ki> one more thing, can it handle autopackages out of the box?
[10:12] <kalikiana> nope, needs to install autopackage normally
[10:12] <kalikiana> now I gotta go, so maybe see ya later :)
[10:14] <ki> thanks kalikiana!
[10:19] <ki> Yay I'm downloading Xubuntu.
[10:19] <ki> I hope wifi is easy, otherwise sounds nice :).
[10:31] <grazie> Did an apt-get update yesterday and I've lost sound. Any suggestions?
[10:55] <gunny01> i installed xgl/beryl and that worked fine. however, when i went back to my regular xfce desktop, only one of the virtual desktops icons appears in the lower right hand corner of the screen and i can't find a way to get it back. any help?
[10:57] <TheSheep> gunny01: stettings->worksapces settings
[10:57] <gunny01> TheSheep: thnx
[10:57] <Tajmox> how do i take a screenshot?
[10:58] <Tajmox> i dont want the panel icon but thats the only way i can take a screenshot?
[10:59] <TheSheep> Tajmox: you can use one of the commandline tools, and bind it to a keypress
[10:59] <gunny01> Tajmox: you could do it throu x but that is hardish.
[10:59] <gunny01> Tajmox: hold on and I'll consolt a lxf
[11:00] <gunny01> er...scratch that.
[11:01] <gunny01> might be easist just to make a panel icon and delete it afterwards :-D
[11:04] <Tajmox> what command would that be ?
[11:04] <Tajmox> for a screenshot
[11:04] <Tajmox> and where are key bindings in xfce ??  I havent set up my media keys because I cant find it
[11:05] <TheSheep> Tajmox: bindings are in settings->keyboard
[11:05] <Tajmox> oic      different than gnome     im looking for where to set my media buttons   - they work in gnome but not in xfce
[11:08] <TheSheep> Tajmox: not sure about media buttons
[11:09] <TheSheep> Tajmox: I think you need to find some howto on the forums
[11:09] <TheSheep> Tajmox: for the screenshot, there is the 'import' command in ImageMigick, for exmaple
[11:09] <TheSheep> Tajmox: or 'scrap' program
[11:09] <TheSheep> !scrap
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <TheSheep> !screenshot
[11:09] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the File -> Acquire menu in the GIMP.
[11:10] <TheSheep> :\
[11:10] <TheSheep> that's for gnome
[11:11] <Tajmox> no biggie i'll just use F2 and gnome-screenshot
[02:17] <TuxCrafter> hello
[04:15] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: I just can't get Feisty to run
[04:32] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: I can't get Feisty to run either
[04:32] <gabkdlly> It hangs after trying to mount swap and fsck
[04:35] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: nope, grub just has problems selecting the right partitions and I don't know how to change that
[04:45] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: do you have multiple xubuntu installs on the same machine?
[04:47] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: yes
[04:47] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I also tried getting it installed into hda5
[04:47] <hyper_ch> where the current root is
[04:51] <gabkdlly> did you mean to overwrite what was in hda5 before? or do you mean that you wanted to make hda5 the boot partition?
[04:51] <gabkdlly> was hda5 your boot partition before?
[04:53] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: hda5 is the root of edgy
[04:54] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I tried to install from a alternate cd feisty herd2 there
[04:54] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I selected the data in hda5 to be formatted
[04:54] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: however after restart, grub had problems finding the right stuff
[04:54] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: then I shrinked my backup harddisk
[04:54] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: setup a new 30gb partition there
[04:54] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: of course I first installed edgy again in hda5
[04:55] <hyper_ch> the 30gb partition there is /dev/sda5
[04:55] <gabkdlly> on my system, mount tells me that hdc5 is for swap, and hdc1 is root, which I guess tells my by process of illimination that hdc2 must be the boot partition
[04:55] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I installed feisty there... same result... upon booting grub couldn't do anything
[04:55] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: so I used the edgy cd again booted into recovery mode and isntalled grub again
[04:55] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: now I can at least boot into edgy again
[04:57] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I did now alter the grub menu.lst :   http://phpfi.com/194776   --> not sure if that works
[04:59] <gabkdlly> so, I guess you are booting from two different hard drives, eh?
[04:59] <gabkdlly> doesn't Grub start counting partitions at zero?
[05:00] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I have 4 harddrives
[05:00] <hyper_ch> 3x IDE
[05:00] <hyper_ch> 1x SATA
[05:00] <hyper_ch> and it just totally mixes that all up
[05:01] <gabkdlly> To me, it looks like your Feisty menu entries refer to a fifth hard drive =-O
[05:02] <gabkdlly> a sixth partition on the fifth hard drive, to be exact
[05:03] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: well, I also have a dvd-rw attached to one of the ide cables
[05:03] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:03] <hyper_ch> hence it should be drive 5... shouldn't it?
[05:05] <hyper_ch> !uuid
[05:05] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:19] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: if you are talking about hda5 (as seen in /dev/ ) wouldn't that correspond to (hd0,4) in Grub terminology?
[05:20] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: it's sda5 :)
[05:20] <hyper_ch> anyway, in #ubuntu+1 I was told to use UUIDs in grub :)
[05:20] <hyper_ch> it looks now like that:   http://phpfi.com/194779
[05:21] <gabkdlly> you are now installing Feisty into what used to be your Windows partition?
[05:22] <hyper_ch> no, windows is hda1
[05:23] <gabkdlly> I have to admit, it is a bit over my head :(
[05:23] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: 4 harddisks
[05:23] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: 60GB
[05:23] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: 120 GB
[05:23] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: 160 GB
[05:23] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: 320 GB
[05:23] <hyper_ch> the 120 ons is hda1
[05:24] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: the 160 is hdd1
[05:24] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: the 120 is hdc1
[05:24] <hyper_ch> and the 320gb is now sda1+5
[05:24] <hyper_ch> the 120gb disk contains a 30 GB partiton for windows, a 3gb swap, a 15 gb edgy and the rest is /home
[05:27] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: which is your boot partition?
[05:29] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: for what sys?
[05:31] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: when you partitioned your drives, didn't you designate one (exactly one) of them to be the boot partition?
[05:31] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I did
[05:31] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: /dev/sda5
[05:32] <hyper_ch> I'll try now with my altered grub menu
[05:32] <gabkdlly> you did: grub-install /dev/sda5 ?
[05:35] <hyper_ch> that didn't work
[05:38] <somerville32> hyper_ch, What are you trying to do?
[05:41] <hyper_ch> somerville32: trying to get feisty to run
[05:42] <somerville32> How are you trying to get it to work?
[05:42] <hyper_ch> somerville32: I tried an upgrade from edgy
[05:42] <hyper_ch> somerville32: after reboob grub didn't recognize the correct partitions
[05:42] <hyper_ch> somerville32: then I tried to install it from the alternate cd
[05:42] <hyper_ch> somerville32: same result after reboot
[05:42] <hyper_ch> somerville32: then I treid to install it into an own partition
[05:43] <hyper_ch> somerville32: same results as before
[05:43] <hyper_ch> somerville32: now I tried to create manual grub entries --> but it won't work either [as I don't know what I need to do there] 
[05:44] <somerville32> Do you have a separate partition for /boot ?
[05:44] <hyper_ch> somerville32: nope
[05:46] <somerville32> How did it not recognize the correct partitions? What error did you get?
[05:47] <hyper_ch> somerville32: I don't remember the exact error message
[05:47] <hyper_ch> it just told it can't find the partition
[05:48] <somerville32> Are you on the live cd or something now?
[05:49] <hyper_ch> no
[05:49] <hyper_ch> put in edgy alternate cd
[05:49] <hyper_ch> reinstalled grub
[05:49] <somerville32> So are you running Feisty now?
[05:50] <hyper_ch> no, edgy
[05:51] <somerville32> ok
[05:51] <somerville32> Are you interested in trying to upgrade to Feisty again?
[05:51] <hyper_ch> feisty is installed
[05:52] <hyper_ch> but I can't get grub to start it
[05:52] <somerville32> So, grub offers you the option to boot into Edgy or Feisty?
[05:52] <hyper_ch> no it doesn't
[05:52] <hyper_ch> just offers now edgy
[05:53] <hyper_ch> after I have reinstlled grub from the edgy alternate cd
[05:53] <hyper_ch> I tried to add an entry for feisty but that doesn't work either
[05:55] <somerville32> Please pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:56] <hyper_ch> somerville32: http://phpfi.com/194787
[05:58] <somerville32> It appears Feisty is listed there
[05:58] <hyper_ch> because I added it manually but that doesn't work
[06:00] <somerville32> run update-grub
[06:01] <hyper_ch> somerville32: nothing has changed
[06:02] <somerville32> Most interesting
[06:04] <hyper_ch> :(
[06:07] <hyper_ch> somerville32: most annoying
[06:09] <somerville32> What partition is Feisty installed to?
[06:10] <hyper_ch> --> /dev/sda5
[06:12] <somerville32> The reason your Feisty boot thinger isn't working is because it is pointing to the same partition as Windows is
[06:12] <somerville32> So I assume one is wrong
[06:12] <hyper_ch> oh... hmm... so what do I have to enter then?
[06:13] <somerville32> The correct partition :P
[06:13] <somerville32> You only have one hard drive?
[06:16] <decaelo> What's happenin?
[06:17] <decaelo> Snow day?
[06:20] <somerville32> Welcome back hyper_ch
[06:21] <hyper_ch> somerville32: I have 4 harddisks
[06:21] <hyper_ch> somerville32: for some reasons sometimes my wifi just fails
[06:23] <hyper_ch> somerville32: I have the UUID set... so what's the problem?
[06:24] <somerville32> You set the root to the same as windows
[06:24] <somerville32> Which mean it'll look there to find the kernel
[06:26] <hyper_ch> somerville32: so what do I have to set there?
[06:26] <somerville32> You would set it to point to the hard drive and partition you have Feisty installed to
[06:27] <hyper_ch> how?
[06:28] <somerville32> By modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:28] <hyper_ch> and what to?
[06:29] <somerville32> How would I know? :S
[06:29] <somerville32> It depends on what hard drive and partition you have it installed to
[06:29] <hyper_ch> you tell me I use the wrong thing
[06:30] <hyper_ch> but I have added the UUID
[06:30] <hyper_ch> so what's the problem?
[06:30] <somerville32> The argument you passed to the kernel?
[06:30] <somerville32> That'll set the root partition, yes.
[06:30] <somerville32> But first grub needs to find the kernel
[06:30] <somerville32> and you tell grub it is located on hd0, partition 0
[06:30] <somerville32> Which is the same as Window's (according to your menu.lst)
[06:31] <hyper_ch> ok, so what do I have to change that to then?
[06:31] <somerville32> It depends on what you have Feisty installed to
[06:31] <hyper_ch> can I use also the UUID there?
[06:31] <somerville32> No
[06:31] <hyper_ch> well, feisty is on sda5
[06:32] <hyper_ch> so what do I have to enter there?
[06:35] <somerville32> Can you list all your partitions?
[06:35] <hyper_ch> yes
[06:35] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: could you try replacing root (hd0,0) with root (sd0,4), but only under the feisty entry, and see if that works?
[06:36] <hyper_ch> ok,t rying
[06:36] <grazie> I picked up a load of updates for my ppc machine yesterday, but none for x86 machine
[06:36] <grazie> anyone know why that could be?
[06:40] <hyper_ch> error parsing number
[06:45] <somerville32> grazie: I think there is a cron job that automatically apt-get updates
[06:45] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: sudo grub
[06:45] <somerville32> Your x86 machine just might not be aware of the updates yet
[06:46] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: then "root ( <tab>" and let us know what that outputs
[06:46] <hyper_ch> grub> root
[06:46] <hyper_ch>  Possible commands are: root rootnoverify
[06:47] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: root, then a space, then ( , and then hit the tab key
[06:47] <hyper_ch> grub> root (hd
[06:47] <hyper_ch>  Possible disks are:  hd0 hd1 hd2 hd3
[06:48] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: also, putting the UUIDs in there seems strange to me, for the time being I would change them back to root=/dev/sda5 or whatever device you end up putting feisty on
[06:48] <hyper_ch> I think it might be hd3,4
[06:48] <gabkdlly> hyper_ch: that means that grub is not seeing your sda drive
[06:49] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: I have only 4 harddisks
[06:49] <hyper_ch> and 4 are being displayed
[06:49] <hyper_ch> or is the dvd-rw also being displayed?
[06:49] <gabkdlly> no, shouldn't be
[06:50] <gabkdlly> for some reason I was thinking that you had a SATA drive additionally. my bad
[06:50] <hyper_ch> gabkdlly: that's true
[06:50] <hyper_ch> 3x IDE
[06:50] <hyper_ch> 1x SATA
[06:50] <gabkdlly> Well, you have to configure grub to point to one of those four that grub can see
[06:50] <hyper_ch> and feisty is on the SATA
[06:51] <gabkdlly> then try root (hd3,4) and see what happens
[06:51] <gabkdlly> I know it might not be a bunch of fun, but if that does not work, you could cycle through the available ones (i.e. hd0, hd1, ...)
[07:21] <hyper_ch> somerville32: it's now feisty time
[07:21] <somerville32> You got it to work? :)
[07:22] <hyper_ch> yes
[07:22] <gabkdlly> excellent! :)
[07:22] <hyper_ch> however the quicklauncher items aren't there anymore
[07:22] <hyper_ch> and some repos are missing.. like Seveas'
[07:48] <grazie> somerville32, No, I picked up updates like FF 2.0.0.1 for ppc, but not for x86. Why would that be?
[07:48] <somerville32> Maybe you already have them, you just don't know?
[07:49] <somerville32> Do they use different mirrors?
[07:49] <gabkdlly> Wasn't FF 2.0.0.1 standard on Edgy CDs?
[07:51] <gabkdlly> it would not surprise me that new software makes it into x86 sooner than into ppc, since the user base for x86 is bigger
[07:52] <grazie> somerville32, No I keep both machines update to pretty regularly and there;s lots of differences. I'll check the mirrors.
[07:53] <grazie> gpocentek, ppc has updates, x86 hasn't?!
[07:54] <grazie> sorry gabkdlly ^^
[07:54] <gpocentek> :)
[07:55] <gpocentek> x86 has updates too
[07:55] <grazie> not for me!
[07:56] <gpocentek> do you have -updates enabled in your sources.list?
[07:57] <grazie> gpocentek, I've not added the parameter to either file, but I'll check
[07:58] <grazie> also, the updates on ppc have resulted in loss of sound
[07:58] <grazie> so I'm looking at that too
[08:03] <grazie> sources.lst for both ppc and x86 are the same, except I've added the wine repo to x86.
[08:07] <waky> Alle Oberbayern / Schwaben haben morschen schulfrei macht ihr tages guck http://www.tagesschau.de/ sorry for the german language
[08:07] <age6racer> Hi all, how do I mget an entire directory and it's subdirectories with smbclient in terminal?
[08:09] <hyper_ch> hiho :)
[08:11] <kalikiana> hi
[08:11] <somerville32> age6racer, You could always mount it and then use cp -r
[08:12] <hyper_ch> who is using feisty?
[08:13] <kalikiana> me :)
[08:14] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: do you use vmware?
[08:14] <kalikiana> nope
[08:15] <hyper_ch> :)
[08:15] <hyper_ch> that doesn't work for me
[09:15] <tictacaddict> does anyone know a way that I can monitor a directory and perform an action on any new files that are created in it?
[09:17] <somerville32> You could use an intrusion detection system
[09:17] <somerville32> I also think there is a program called tripwire that does something like that
[09:19] <tictacaddict> I will look into that.
[09:21] <Maximilian1st> Hi folks.
[09:21] <Maximilian1st> I have a question about herd2
[09:21] <Maximilian1st> Did the Terminal within Xfce loose it's utf8 capability?
[09:22] <Maximilian1st> I can't see special accents and stuff...
[09:22] <Maximilian1st> I never had to install anything to have them before.
[09:22] <Maximilian1st> Isn't it installed by default anymore?
[09:24] <kalikiana|rejoin> I can even insert kana in my Terminal.
[09:25] <Maximilian1st> So there is something with my installation. good to know that it works. You are using herd2, aren't you?
[09:26] <kalikiana|rejoin> Me? No, it's Edgy most of the time.
[09:27] <Maximilian1st> Isn't herd2 the feisty beta?
[09:27] <somerville32> Alpha
[09:28] <kalikiana|rejoin> Yes it is, but I don't use it 'normally', i.e. except when I play a little around.
[09:28] <hyper_ch> somerville32: Maximilian1st: has any of you tried to install vmware on herd 2?
[09:28] <somerville32> no
[09:28] <Maximilian1st> So by default there is no support for special accents in the alpha. That is my conclusion. hyper_ch nope, I use a laptop with 512 ram so it's not really the right machine to play with.
[09:30] <Maximilian1st> When I say no support I mean in Xfce's Terminal, because it works in the normal console. Also, they don't appear in xchat "?" "?" can you see these?
[09:30] <slow-motion> n8
[09:33] <Maximilian1st> I have something special here. If I launch a new Terminal window from within an existing one, I will still not get the accents but... if I launch using root from within an existing Terminal I will have the accents. any clue as to what is wrong?
[09:33] <Maximilian1st> something to do with the locale? from my user?
[09:35] <Maximilian1st> Also, I confirmed a hang in the booting process with the sk98lin driver. I can also confirm that it won't load when using the restricted modules from the packages, probably due to this driver also.
[10:32] <nukeslion> hello :D
[10:52] <nukeslion> anyone get WPA to work? im having trouble with it :(
[11:16] <snook353> what is a power-point-like app besides openoffice impress?
[11:18] <hyper_ch> snook353: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[11:19] <snook353> thanks
[11:20] <snook353> i heard someone mention some german-based app for powerpoint and openoffice alternative
[11:36] <cellofellow> snook353: koffice is gernam
[11:36] <cellofellow> german*
[11:38] <cellofellow> snook353: but honestly, I can't think of any besides openoffice and koffice.
[12:18] <gunny01> no gnome office app for powerpoint
[12:19] <cellofellow> not even google office. (yet)
[12:19] <cellofellow> It's Impress and KPresent
[12:29] <cellofellow> new screenshots: http://mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com/screenshots