[12:21] pinheiro, kwwii: ping [12:21] hi seaLne [12:21] hi seele [12:21] :P [12:21] hey [12:21] i have an artistic challenge for you [12:21] hherhhehee [12:21] what kind of web color scheme can you come up with for #800100 [12:22] what colors go with red, other than black and white? [12:22] _dark_ red, for that matter [12:22] this is not red [12:22] its green [12:22] #800100 hex is green? [12:22] yep [12:22] seele: pong [12:23] red goes well with orange and yellow [12:23] :-) [12:23] kwwii: even a dark red? [12:23] yepp [12:23] pinheiro: i just checked the hex and its dark red [12:23] thre is a trick to find colors [12:23] r:128 g:1 b:0 [12:23] sure [12:24] it has lots of red [12:24] a little g [12:24] and no blue [12:24] exactly [12:24] seele: there is a program where one can make a color scheme based on one color [12:25] david has one [12:25] seele: go to the weel [12:25] kwwii: high saturation on the orange or yellow? [12:25] I think there are also website [12:25] the other corner of the tiangle always go nicly [12:25] seele: the darker the red, the less saturation you want, I gues [12:25] s [12:25] although the yellow could have more saturation [12:26] to be honest, unless I actually look at the color and play around with it I cannot tell you a definitive ansewr [12:26] erm [12:26] answer [12:26] well thare are lodas of colors that go well with this red the question is more what is the message an the style of the site [12:26] kwwii: thats ok, this is better than me trying and making someone puke [12:27] lol [12:27] there are some purples, and blues that would go well with that too [12:27] it also depends on how you use the colors [12:27] pinheiro: #800100 is my company's color, and they have charged me with refreshing our website [12:27] and what they are for [12:27] yea? [12:28] the global message? [12:28] I just bought a sweater with blue, orange, purple, and red in it [12:28] ;-) [12:28] pinheiro: e-business card -- human factors and usability design [12:28] thats not a message :) [12:28] seele: if you send us an example of where/how it is used I am sure we could help more [12:29] a graphical example [12:29] http://www.obso1337.org/ucd/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/logo.gif [12:29] thats our logo [12:29] oh, you could use several colors in that [12:29] in fact, I would not suggest just using red orange and yellow [12:30] heven redo the intire stuf :P [12:30] you need three dark color for that [12:30] pinheiro: lol.. were not a design company, were just a bunch of people-engineers ;) [12:30] that would make it stand out much more and allow for a more universal design [12:30] well.. design, but not in the graphical sense [12:30] kwwii: like dark teal or something? (i see it opposite of red on the color wheel) [12:30] I would almost use the dark red, a dark blue and a dark green for that [12:30] yeah [12:31] complimentary colors for a logo are good [12:31] the frist thing that you need to think is what is our message? (what image we want to give of ourselfs) [12:31] pinheiro: our tag like is "Making technology easy to use" [12:31] *tag line [12:32] there is a difrence betwind message and content ;) [12:32] if you want to keep is very serious, use that logo and add a dark orange and dark yellow for other parts (the lighter the color, the less you use it) [12:32] seele!!! [12:32] Hobbsee: hihi! [12:33] I wish I could say hihi as man and still be taken seriously [12:33] :p [12:33] the content of an issurance companie is the the insurance is great couse its sooo good [12:33] kwwii: ok. that sounds edgey, but i will take your advice and try it [12:33] the message is that we are trustworthy [12:33] seele: I could help more tomorrow, going to bed soon here [12:33] kwwii: you could say heyhey and be like fat albert :) [12:33] kwwii: no problem [12:33] well, I am fat enough as it is [12:33] trying to stay away from that metaphor [12:34] :p [12:34] i was just snagging some advice from two of the best graphics guys i know ;) [12:34] ;-) [12:34] kwwii: haha.. youre european now.. its hard for you to be FAT [12:34] lol, I wish [12:34] kwwii: youre fat is our normal [12:34] now that is downright mean [12:34] you normal american :) [12:35] pinheiro: no, not any more [12:35] believe me [12:35] i know you got thin [12:35] my wife is amazed [12:35] seele: :) [12:35] so i have heard [12:35] slowly getting back to normal [12:35] anyway [12:35] time for me to sleep [12:35] l8rs [12:35] Hobbsee: how are you? [12:36] well, time to test one more thing, and then I will sleep, brb [12:36] restarting my system [12:36] seele: good - linux conf au open day was here yesterday, so that was cool :) [12:36] seele for this color i would advice you some non to saturated colors but the disign is more important [12:36] i used this color once in a design [12:36] letme see if i can find it [12:37] Hobbsee: yeah, ive been seeing lots of linuxchix posts about it [12:37] pinheiro: that would be cool [12:37] pinheiro: i've made wireframes, but now they want me to put graphics and color in it -- i am far from being a visual designer [12:37] my first go was black, red, and white. very flat [12:38] yea ita flat color [12:38] seele: :) [12:38] its also a romantic color [12:38] so you cna folow that path [12:38] or you can go for the energie path of it [12:38] hmm.. [12:38] couse its red [12:39] letme find the design [12:39] found it === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955F75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] seele: http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=figjr3.png [12:43] ita a realy old design [12:44] put the messege was solid professional yet acessible [12:44] pinheiro has a very good point, if you want to be very serious, use black aa a main color, it accents the dark red well [12:44] well that was my intention [12:44] s/aa/as [12:44] kwwii: go to bed! [12:45] yeah [12:45] lol [12:45] well, I had to restart my x-server to see if my tablet works [12:45] now I am going to bed [12:45] does it works now? [12:45] pinheiro: ah, i see what you mean [12:45] yes, i was trying to use too much of the red [12:45] nope [12:45] i should instead use it as an accent [12:45] works like shit [12:45] hehehhe [12:45] I am done for tongiht then [12:46] see you all tomorrow [12:46] yea seele dont use red as the main color red is not a min color [12:46] main [12:46] its a to strong color with to strog meening [12:46] yes, i bet that is my problem [12:47] like its nice to have a wall painted red [12:47] but dont paint your house [12:47] hehe === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] any way time for bed haswell [12:47] 'night [12:48] thanks for the help :) [12:48] there are lost of colors taht go well ith that clasic red [12:48] lost = lots === Tonio_ [n=tonio@30.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:50] Riddell: I'm patching knetworkconf tu support feisty [12:53] Riddell: the patch is there but it doesn't work, I'm prompted to choose the system at launch and feisty isn't there === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-0-109.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:03] hum the patch doesn't apply for some reason..... I'm trying to fix === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:17] Riddell: there no UI translations in the (german) language pack. Known misfeature, that fixes itself, or a bug? [01:21] mhmm, I only found 3.5.6 for edgy on kubuntu.org. I thought feisty pkgs were done first. Where are they? [01:25] ^^ found repo in irc logs === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] I try to find the list of versionnumbers of the applications in feisty - does anyone know where I find that?1 [01:53] ! [01:53] packages.ubuntu.com [01:54] alternately, use that in combination with apt-cache and/or launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/ [01:54] thanks crimsun [01:55] the archive itself is definitive; lp offers a presentation of it; packages.uc may be slightly out of date due to update lag [01:57] ok thanks [01:58] I'm wondering if I should update from edgy to feisty now or in a month or so === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180064162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === rdorsch [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.119] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio__ [n=tonio@42.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] Riddell: knetworkconf fixed, I'll also reupload adept since there is a file conflict issue between adept-notifier and adept-common [02:33] Riddell: I let the file in adept-common since notifier depends on it via -updater, and since all icons are already in -common === ryanakca twiddles while his upgrade runs... [02:46] Is Feisty really going to put binary drivers on by default? === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-48-60.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm15.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-94-128.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:22] All dead here ^_^ === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-236-158-217.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong__ [n=jdong@d192-24-149-138.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dink [i=Dink@rolling.down.the.street.in.my.pimped.up.retardb.us] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:48] Riddell: I'm cool helping you out with your adept tasks. I'm hoping that I can get this bzr thing to work though. [03:49] Riddell: I think I'll need some help getting the image into the deb though. [03:53] manchicken: http://pastebin.ca/321127 :) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] manchicken: nevermind :) === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ is now known as jdong [04:05] SWEET! I got stuff committing to bazaar! [04:07] Anybody know if there's a vc bazaar module? === vinboy_ [n=vinboy@125-236-158-217.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A72B4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:23] Wow, creating branches takes a LONG time. [04:27] Riddell: around ? [04:31] Mez: Do you know I can add notes to a spec's wiki page without compromising the approved status of the spec? [04:31] *shrugsa* [04:40] You're no fun anymore. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:29] It's interesting that you've gotta give --enable-adept to the configure script in order to get it to build. heh === chavo [n=chavo@atlsfl-bundle-69-167-86-78.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy_ [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:47] Anybody have a reproducible way to test adept_batch? [05:47] Perhaps some test cases? === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:04] mhb: ping === Hobbsee waves to all [06:09] hello Hobbsee [06:10] heya ajmitch [06:11] Hobbsee!!! Where do we hide the test cases? [06:11] manchicken: the test cases? [06:11] I need to figure out how to reliably test adept_batch. [06:11] dunno. oh wiat [06:12] manchicken: amarok uses adept_batch, to install libxine-extracodecs [06:12] if you purge that from your system, then restart amarok, it'll give you that prompt again [06:12] Okay. === Hobbsee upgrades to 3.5.6 === Tonio__ looks at kde-systemsetting svn structure and cries........ [06:13] Hobbsee: did riddell finish the packages ? [06:14] Tonio__: dunno, they seem to be there [06:15] adept is reporting bugs, although i think that might have been from a previous update [06:15] Hobbsee: if it's the file conflict I fixed that a couple of hours ago [06:15] Tonio__: the .png file? [06:15] probably just nto published to mirrors yet [06:16] yup [06:16] Okay... [06:16] So I can just call adept_batch like apt... [06:17] manchicken: yeah [06:17] Groovy. [06:18] That makes it much easier to test. === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:19] nighty night. [06:26] jdong: finally some sense! [06:26] Hobbsee: what's that supposed to mean? ;-) [06:26] good morning [06:27] Hobbsee: I become more reasonable when I can see evidence of thought and progress :) [06:27] jdong: that bug report [06:27] especially Hobbsee, who poked me [06:27] hey mhb! what state is the testing team in? [06:28] hehe [06:28] Ohio? [06:30] yeah, Ohio, the fontconfig-was-kinda-broken-thus-waiting-for-the-next-testcd-with-advertising state [06:30] heh === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:39] which is the madwifi-oopses-on-load-so-I-cant-effin-install-herd-2 state? [06:39] ;-) [06:39] and YES, Hobbsee, there is a bug report filed :P [06:39] heh [06:40] and no, I'm not a kernel developer and can't write the patch :) [06:43] Hobbsee: did you get 3.5.6 from kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-test/ ? [06:43] deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kde-356-feisty/ feisty main [06:43] rideout: i've got them from ^ [06:44] ooh sounds fun, need any help testing those? [06:44] Hobbsee: i'll have to wait, I'm still on edgy ... but maybe now is a good time start testing feisty [06:44] rideout: could be...could indeed be :) [06:44] rideout: assuming it boots, it's fine [06:44] mostly === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.78.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:49] what compositor is planned for kubuntu feisty? [06:50] heya yuriy [06:50] yuriy: probably none [06:51] oh :\ i thought that was one of the big features planned for feisty [06:52] in ubuntu it is. [06:52] havent you seen how dodgy beryl is on kubuntu? [06:53] Hobbsee: only issues I have with it is the desktop pager doesn't work and hibernate/suspend don't work [06:53] and the latter isn't kde specific afaik [06:53] yuriy: you havent mentioned aquamarine === nixternal prays that Beryl or Compiz never makes it into Kubuntu [06:53] but yeah, pager is the biggest thing i noted [06:54] Hobbsee: well, i've been using emerald with a clone of the edgy theme. so i guess that's kind of cheating [06:54] hiya Hobbsee! [06:55] hey nixternal :) [06:55] yuriy: that is, yes. it needs to stay looking like kubuntu [06:55] hrm. guess it does...but still [06:55] it stops you using all of the kde themes, etc, unless there's a clone already done [06:56] yup, i understand. hmm i should give aquamarine a try anyways i guess [06:56] yes aquamarine is working now [06:57] chavo: oh nice! it kept sigseiving on me before [06:57] too bad xcompmgr/kompmgr are still glitchier than beryl. but i guess they're obsolete now [06:57] It does on Crystal, but not other windecos for me [06:57] well, kde 4 is built on that stuff, iir [06:57] c === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d93211b0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:00] on aquamarine now [07:00] oh and actually the most annoying problem i have with beryl is the black windows bug [07:01] never saw that one === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:03] chavo: what driver? it might be an nvidia specific problem. basically it runs out of memory or something and starts showing blank windows, usually remedied by closing some windows [07:03] yuriy, nvidia here too [07:04] i get white wobbly windows here with beryl, i810 w/ G965 chip. [07:05] it worries me that feisty people seem to be getting white windows with beryl [07:07] hmm haven't seen that one, maybe an intel thing [07:07] heh nvidia = black, intel = white [07:07] heaps of people were reporting it [07:08] i've read that it's fixed if you get the stars lined up right and built xorg/mesa/whatever in the right order. ;) [07:08] i forgot, which one is ubuntu using? [07:09] ah there's the sigsegv [07:10] after switching windecos a few times [07:14] bzr is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW [07:14] I getting nuts with it and kds [07:15] heya Tonio__ [07:16] hey Hobbsee :) [07:16] 7am here and still not to bed...... shame on me [07:16] hehe [07:19] Tonio__, It seems there are huge issues with kxmame [07:19] I was trying to update it to make a depend on a mame emulator [07:19] and it all went horribly wrong [07:19] Mez: yeah I know that was on my plans.... [07:20] Mez: I'm an emulation super-specialist so unless you really want to do it, please let me that pleasure :) [07:20] Tonio__, go for it [07:20] it was just something I noticed :D [07:20] Mez: I did the www.planetemu.net website, so.... [07:20] ;) [07:21] I'm doing this in the next hour once kds is uploaded [07:21] lol [07:21] kk === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955A61.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:24] Mez: the point is that my package worked with dapper, maybe just kxmame isn't compatible with latest xmame versions.... [07:25] Tonio__, it's extremely foerked up ;) [07:25] what ? kxmame ? [07:30] Mez: ah it works...... [07:30] Mez: what is the problem ? [07:31] the point is just that it doesn't find the executable by default, but I can patch this [07:31] appart from that, it is okay [07:31] Tonio__, try re-building it [07:32] it doesnt find an executable by default cause one isnt installed [07:32] then you try and build - and it alll goes weird [07:32] Mez: yeah I installed xmame-x and set the path to it [07:32] I could rebuild the games list [07:32] no issues [07:33] okay let's try a good rom :) shadow dancer ! === Mez shrugs [07:33] moin Tonio__ [07:33] hey ken :) [07:33] Tonio__, I mean as in rebuild the binary [07:33] the buildd's rejected it twice [07:35] Mez: ah okay I'll do that [07:35] the crappy point is that it is a kde app but with qt dialogs :) [07:35] ugly isn't it ? :) [07:35] ;) [07:35] I cant be bothered to find a good source for roms [07:36] Mez: I have 200 000 roms on my website [07:36] link ? :P [07:36] www.planetemu.net [07:36] pay to download? ? [07:36] but it's one file per download, sorry :) [07:36] Mez: no, but the site has adds [07:37] Tonio__, cant you make me a zip ? :P [07:37] well it works [07:37] Mez: want ftp access ? :) [07:37] if that would be allowed :P === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:37] for you I can do it [07:38] just tell me the login/pass you want (notice) and I'm building the account [07:39] lol === Tonio_ [n=tonio@42.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:39] what the f**k !!!! [07:39] launching a game closed my kde session :) [07:40] that's pretty horrible ! [07:40] lol [07:40] Tonio_, out of curiosity, I can seem to find a download link [07:40] just articles [07:40] Mez: on the right, click on Mame [07:41] then you'll see the ROMS section, go there, and everything is in it [07:41] nvm me [07:41] in the set MAME (CHD & Samples excluded) [07:41] yeah that's french sorry :) [07:41] I receive about 100 complains a day that the wensite isn't in english :) [07:42] ho and fyi download will not work with konqueror [07:42] Tonio_, it's no problem -0 I understand french :D [07:42] Tonio_, I use FF [07:42] and where do I save them to ? [07:42] I just changed the download script and it needs fixing since it is a bit complex :) [07:42] uses proftpd-mysql etc... [07:43] I try to avoid leechers [07:43] my god [07:43] thats scary [07:43] windows style open dialog [07:44] that's qt [07:44] qt ressemble windows a lot [07:44] Mez: but the rest of the app is based on kdelibs :) [07:45] that's completly stupid === yuriy downloads kxmame to see [07:45] lol [07:46] i wanted to see if it's the same dialog i'm used to with opera, and it is [07:46] Mez: should be okay via ftp://planetemu.net === Mez growls as he cant get it to find the proper thing [07:46] Mez: the binary is in /usr/games [07:47] at least this thing can be patched by someone concerned... too bad i don't see opera putting in kde dialogs in the future === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:49] heh, mez just launched a game, looks like ;) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:49] [07:49] heh, mez just launched a game, looks like ;) [07:49] Mez: have you been disconnected by the program ? [07:50] hmm [07:50] when I set the path of Xmame [07:50] all not exactly [07:50] when i set the path for Xmame [07:50] it just [07:50] gave me a blank completely unresponsive screen (but my KDE was runnning cause i could still hear my amarok in the BG) [07:51] hum, I didn't have that issue [07:51] I can launch a game, but kde get closed and the game launches..... very strange.... [07:51] I wonder if that's a xmame issue or kxmame one.... I'm testing [07:51] maybe xmame-x isn't the version to use === Mez doesnt think so [07:53] Mez: I'm testing with xmame-sdl [07:54] ok, so where do I save my games? === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] ok, apparentlyu i have 6166 gamnes available [07:54] Mez: no that's the list of existing games [07:55] lol [07:55] you have to download a rom and then pick up the folder in the config, then rescan [07:55] where do i install games to ? [07:55] and behind available you'll see your roms [07:55] what was that ftp url again ? [07:55] Mez: install them where you want, and configure kxmame to scan in that folder [07:55] ftp://planetemu.net [07:56] Message sent: [07:56] Login using username=mez and password=[hidden] [07:56] Server replied: [07:56] 530 Login incorrect. [07:56] Do you want to retry? [07:56] yeah I have to retype password, copy/paste failed.... [07:56] lol [07:58] Tonio_, poke me when done [07:58] going to get cigs === Tonio_ [n=tonio@42.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:00] rahhhhhhhhhhhhhh I unpluged my router...... [08:00] okay let's finish the config [08:00] Mez: sorry ;) [08:00] [08:00] User mdz [08:00] that's when I'm reaaaaaaaaaaaaally tired [08:01] interesting, proftpd reload argument fails..... [08:02] Mez: works this time [08:03] Mez: okay the problem with the package is a classic issue [08:03] we had the same with kde for a very long time, and there is a common fix [08:03]