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sleepy495my monitor shuts off but the pc is still running12:15
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JuJuBeeAnybody have an idea / suggestion as to simple/easy way to change network settings when switching from work to home and visa versa?12:15
ConstyXIVJuJuBee: networkmanager12:15
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JuJuBeebashee: networkmanager: command not found12:16
JuJuBee*bash:12:16
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ConstyXIVJuJuBee: sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-(insert gnome or kde here)12:17
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mefisto_I need some serious help with kubuntu, somebody can help me?12:17
ConstyXIVis anyone able to use a sandisk sansa as a MTP player?12:17
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ConstyXIVmefisto_: what?12:17
bjrazHymnToLife: /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't show the update being there12:18
morkaso how is kubuntu different from ubuntu, aside from having kde as default instead of gnome?12:18
LjLmorka: it's not12:18
ConstyXIVmorka: just the differences of being kde/gnome12:18
mefisto_ConstyXIV: I've mounted a partition in three different folders12:18
bjrazI want to change what server /ect/apt/sources looks at.12:18
morkaso if ubuntu is set to have kde as default, no other differences?12:18
mefisto_ConstyXIV: Bu I can't just write on it!!!!12:18
ConstyXIVmorka: right12:18
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morkawhy a separate name, distro, download, etc?12:18
JuJuBeeConstyXIV : Thanks, knetworkmanager.12:18
mefisto_I can't copy nor delete, not anything on any mounted partition12:19
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bjrazHymnToLife: well that is the next thing I want to do12:19
mefisto_and I can't delete any folder previously used for mounting12:19
ConstyXIVmefisto_: on ANY partition (including your homedir?)12:19
LjLmorka: well to make ubuntu completely the same as kubuntu you'd not only have to install kde, but also remove the entirety of gnome and any packages that are installed in ubuntu but not in kubuntu12:19
mefisto_I can write in my home partition, but in the mounted partition I just can't!!!12:19
mefisto_and i've tried to mount that partition in media/12:19
HymnToLifebjraz, what do you want to do, exactly ?12:19
LjLmorka: possibly because you don't want to waste time downloading or ordering a CD that contains only stuff you don't want12:19
ConstyXIVmorka: to simplify things for joe user, they're really the same distro12:19
mefisto_and it works, but I can't write a thing on it12:20
sleepy495I see alot of desktop configs without the kicker, how can I get rid of the kicker?12:20
ConstyXIVthey just ship with different packages12:20
sleepy495I want to install kiba dock but the kicker would get in the way12:20
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ConstyXIVsleepy495: right-click your panel, configure12:21
bjrazedit were /etc/apt/sources.list so it looks for updates somewhere else12:21
JuJuBeeConstyXIV : when I try to run knetworkmanager, nothing happens, the prompt is returned...?12:21
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sleepy495I did, what do I select?12:21
ConstyXIVJuJuBee: look in your tray12:21
LjLbjraz: "updates" as in the edgy-updates repository?12:21
LjLedit the URL, i suppose12:21
bjrazyes12:21
ConstyXIVsleepy495: in arrangement, put the panel at the top12:21
JuJuBeeNot there.12:22
sleepy495thanks!12:22
JuJuBeeMy bad, there it is.12:22
ConstyXIVsleepy495: then go to hiding, and set it to autohide12:22
LjLbjraz: well edit the URLs in the relevant lines...12:22
ConstyXIVsleepy495: then set the panel to the smallest size possible12:22
menahow can i keep sure that the system is upto date12:22
LjL!easysource | besides, bjraz12:22
ConstyXIVyou'll never notice it12:22
ubotubesides, bjraz: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:22
bjrazLjL: that sounds easyer said than done12:23
LjLmena: when the icon for the automatic updates comes up, click on it12:23
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LjLbjraz: i can't see why, elaborate12:23
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menaokay12:23
ConstyXIVmena: to do it manually, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade12:23
LjLmena_: also, if you enable universe and/or multiverse, make sure the updates and security repositories are enabled for them too12:23
mefisto_ConstyX ...?12:23
mefisto_your too busy, dude?12:23
menaConstyXIV: okay12:24
ConstyXIVmefisto_: sortof, not to mention i have zero clue what to do12:24
killermach_ I have a new install of kubuntu and my blender tutorial AVI files do not show video in Kaffiene, only audio plays, can someone tell me what I am missing to play the video ?12:24
ConstyXIVmefisto_: try writing to it with sudo12:24
mefisto_what's the command to delete folders with sudo?12:24
LjLUbotu, tell mefisto_ about cli | mefisto_, see the private message from Ubotu12:24
ConstyXIVmefisto_: rm -R <folder>12:24
JuJuBeeConstyXIV : is knetworkmanager supposed to display any wireless/wired networks available?12:24
LjLmefisto_: rmdir12:24
LjLand it has nothing to do with sudo12:24
ConstyXIVJuJuBee: yup12:24
sleepy495consty, thank!!!!12:24
mefisto_thanks LjL12:25
JuJuBeeBut I do not broadcast SSID's.12:25
JuJuBeeSo, no networks show up.12:25
ConstyXIVkillermach_: help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:25
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LjLUbotu, tell killermach_ about avi | killermach_, see the private message from Ubotu12:25
YumaGood night.12:25
ConstyXIVJuJuBee: click it, then, click "Connect to other wireless networks"12:25
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JuJuBeeNo such option...12:26
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JuJuBeewhen I mouseover, it says Disconnected.12:27
mefisto_alright...12:27
mefisto_the stuff wit the folders is done12:27
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mefisto_now, anyone here knows how to mount a partition (setting it up for writing withou root permissions???)12:27
LjL!mountwindows12:28
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse12:28
LjLthat should explain it12:28
mefisto_it's not a windows partition...12:28
mefisto_it's an ext3 partition12:28
LjLi don't think it matters12:28
mefisto_it doesn't matters?12:28
mefisto_alright... thanks12:28
LjLno, that page gives some generic explanations that are useful for all filesystems12:28
milos83Can someone give me link please where I can download and them manually install w32 codecs?12:28
LjLanyway you simply need to add an /etc/fstab entry to have it mounted at boot12:29
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mefisto_gonna check it out, thanks!12:29
LjLor if you don't want that, a very bare mount command should do nicely12:29
mefisto_LjL12:29
LjL!seveas | milos8312:29
ubotumilos83: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:29
bjrazthis is where I got the updates for libc: mirrorservces.org/sites/archive.untubu.com/untubu/12:30
mefisto_I instaled firefox with Adept, but it's version 1.5, how can I update it to 2.0.1???12:30
bjrazthis is where I got the updates for libc: http://mirrorservces.org/sites/archive.untubu.com/untubu/12:30
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LjLyou WHAT? you updated libc?12:30
bjrazLjL: yes I did12:30
LjLgood luck you'll need it12:31
bjrazLjL: I'm in failsafe mode12:31
YumaWhat is the probability my DNS have fallen?12:31
bjrazI hope it works12:31
LjLbjraz: that link seems to be broken12:31
LjLYuma: between 0 and 100%12:31
bjrazI may have miss typed it12:31
HymnToLifebjraz, why on earth do you think you need to update your libc ?12:31
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LjLbjraz: what led you to updating libc from an external repository, and why are you in failsafe mode node?12:32
LjLbjraz: you probably did, but even changing it to "mirrorservices.org" doesn't seem to help much12:32
YumaLjL: Mathematicaly it should be between 0 and 1... but I mean a number, not a range.12:32
bjrazI wanted to install something that required that version of libc, Kubuntu 6.10 comes with libc 2.412:32
milos83thanks12:32
LjLYuma: obviously enough, nobody in here can have the slightest idea of how probable it is that your ISP's nameservers failed12:33
JosefKYuma: I doubt it would ever get near 0, but it really depends, it's a possibility - can you not 'nslookup'?12:33
JuJuBeeConstyXIV : I think knetswitch is the ticket...12:33
LjLanybody got a crystal ball? nobody?12:33
HymnToLifebjraz, "something" = what ?12:33
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HymnToLifeYuma, a number ? hmmm, I'd say 67,8651%12:33
YumaJosefK: Nope, I can't.12:33
JosefKYuma: then there's a 100% chance12:34
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YumaJosefK: I can talk here, but I can't open a new google.es. Not resolving.12:34
LjLbjraz: installing third-party packages is bad in general. installing a third-party libc is almost guaranteed to give you big trouble, possibly a reinstall bonus12:34
YumaJosefK: Hehe, that's what I wanted.12:34
JosefKYuma: check your /etc/routes first, try pinging the IPs listed12:34
LjLanyway i think the address is http://www.mirrorservice.org/ , but the rest of the URL is still giving me troubles. what do you want to change it to, and why, anyway, bjraz?12:34
YumaJosefK: Shoud I suppose you wanted to say /etc/resolv.conf?12:35
bjrazthe package is called "libc6_2.5-0ubuntu8_i386.deb12:35
LjLalright, but that doesn't help me much12:35
JosefKYuma: yes, you should12:35
YumaJosefK: No ping, but that could be normal.12:36
HymnToLifebjraz, just upgrade to Feisty12:36
LjLbjraz: i don't much care what the package is called - i want to know what your problem is, why you're stuck in failsafe now, and why you're trying to change the URL12:36
JosefKYuma: true, I was thinking of Solaris there for a sec12:36
HymnToLifethat will give you libc6 2.512:36
JuJuBeeI just installed knetswitch, but it seems that it has to be run from command line.  How do I add a button in the K-Menu for it?12:36
YumaJosefK: Ok :)12:36
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JosefKYuma: if those entries are fine, there's probably little you can do - obviously check any proxies/cache, other than that make a cup of tea and sit it out12:37
bjrazyes, that is what I want12:37
JosefKYuma: or switch to OpenDNS or similar :)12:37
JosefKYuma: http://www.opendns.com/12:37
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bjrazkubuntu 6.10 comes with libv 2.412:37
HymnToLifebjraz, what did you want to install that required libc6 2.5 anyway ?12:37
YumaJosefK: It could be a good idea if I could resolve the opendns.com12:37
bjraz*libc 2.412:38
cslaterHi folks - wanted to let you all know that Instalinux finally has support for Kubuntu Edgy - just pick Ubuntu and there's a window manager choice in step 3 or 412:38
YumaJosefK: Hehe, I think I'll make some tea...12:38
JosefKYuma: hah, I forgot - I'll put a resolv line in here, two secs12:38
LjLbjraz: Feisty, albeit it comes with newer versions of things, is not released, it's under development, and it will almost certainly break badly upon using it. it's intended for developers12:38
bjrazI have a package I wanted to install taht required a new version of libc12:38
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HymnToLifeWHAT package ?12:39
LjLblah i give up, you don't answer any single question12:39
JosefKYuma: not a line, but I'm making typo's - 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 are their nameservers12:39
bjrazvim_7.0-164_1ubuntu2_i386.deb12:39
HymnToLifeI wonder why he won't answer to that12:39
bjraz*vim_7.0-164+1ubuntu2_i386.deb12:39
LjLvim? vim? bwahah12:39
HymnToLifebjraz, why not install an Edgy vim ?12:39
JosefKLjL: recently enjoying Emacs here too..12:40
YumaJosefK: I'll try them... but it's very strange if mine have fallen.12:40
bjrazEdgy vim is only vim-common, I wanted to have vim-enhanced12:40
Goshai dont have to have gdm starting at boot when i have kdm botting at start up, do i?12:40
HymnToLifebjraz, you were trying to install a FEisty vim, no wonder it required Feisty libs...12:40
JosefKYuma: true, but if you can ping but not resolv, that's probably it12:40
LjLJosefK: i enjoy nano, i need neither an OS-in-an-OS nor a linenoise generator :P12:40
HymnToLife!info vim-full edgy12:41
ubotuvim-full: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 913 kB, installed size 1860 kB12:41
HymnToLifeit is in edgy too12:41
JosefKLjL: pfft, but I'm a sucker for GNU style indentation12:41
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YumaJosefK: I appended them to resolv.conf (well, I put them in the two first lines) and now I can resolv.12:41
Goshai'll take that as i don't have to12:41
LjL!vim-full | perhaps?12:41
ubotuvim-full: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 913 kB, installed size 1860 kB12:41
JosefKYuma: there we go :) I have a few minor gripes with OpenDNS, but at least it could get you through12:41
Goshaas in, i'll blame you if i have to :P12:41
YumaJosefK: That worked very well, thanks for the nameservers. :)12:41
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HymnToLifeLjL, pwned :p12:42
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bjrazyou don't see full when you look at the packages avliable on adept12:42
JosefKYuma: np's, you could always leave them at the end of your list for backup I guess - have fun12:42
LjLHymnToLife: totally =)12:42
LjLbjraz: not if you don't have universe enabled, no12:42
LjLUbotu, tell bjraz about repositories | bjraz, see the private message from Ubotu12:42
YumaJosefK: I could have both, my ISP's and OpenDNS, so it would be really hard to be unable to resolv.12:42
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bjrazthank you LjL12:44
LjLbjraz: to solve the libc problem, honestly i suggest a reinstall. downgrading libc is a complete nightmare12:45
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craftycornerhow do u navigate using terminal/consol12:45
LjLnavigate to what?12:46
craftycornerjust downloaded flashplayer 9 to desktoop trying to isntall12:46
ConstyXIVcraftycorner: cd to change directories, ls to list directories12:46
bjrazLjL: I think I'll just leave it be, and update libc manually from now on12:46
LjLcraftycorner: cd ~/Desktop12:46
LjLUbotu, tell craftycorner about cli | craftycorner, see the private message from Ubotu12:46
LjLbjraz: no. rather, *remove* those third-party repositories from your sources.list, and let libc (like everything else) be upgraded *automatically* from the official reps12:47
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sleepy495!repository12:47
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:47
LjLbjraz: libc is probably the second most important component in your system. you don't *want* to have a version of it that ubuntu doesn't come with12:47
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HymnToLifeLjL, which one is the first ?12:47
cyber-hazardmmmm, curious12:47
LjLbjraz: if a package is compiled for a different version of libc, and there's no package for your version of ubuntu, and you absolutely need it - compile from source12:47
cyber-hazardUbotu, Tell cyber-hazard about cli12:48
LjLHymnToLife: i'd say linux12:48
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bjrazI don't have any in there, I just downloaded the vim files I didn't know how to enter things into the repsitorys12:48
ConstyXIVHymnToLife: the kernal12:48
sleepy495What are the Canonical Commercial repositories for? What do they contain?12:48
LjLkernel12:48
cyber-hazardubotu doesn't know anything about cli :P12:48
LjLthe C64 had a kernal. and that was a mispelling anyway :P12:48
LjLit sure does12:48
LjL!cli12:48
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:48
ConstyXIVLjL: it's both12:48
cyber-hazardbut he didn't tell me about it :P12:48
LjLwell, it did now12:49
cyber-hazardhaha12:49
cyber-hazardi was hoping for a pm12:49
cyber-hazardoh well12:49
LjLUbotu, tell cyber-hazard about cli | cyber-hazard, see the private message from Ubotu12:49
LjLthis should definitely give you a pm12:49
ConstyXIVi live and die by the console as much as kde12:49
LjLif it doesn't, there's something broken with either ubotu or your client12:49
HymnToLifebjraz, see here : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware12:49
cyber-hazardoh, you have to do the | and everything?12:49
LjLcyber-hazard: no12:49
ConstyXIVin fact, i use yakuake all the time12:49
blkvulcanhow can I set KDE to log in with my previous settings on Dapper12:49
LjL!tell cyber-hazard about cli12:49
cyber-hazardoh, heh12:49
LjLthis works to, and so does "Ubotu, tell cyber-hazard" about cli | cyber-hazard", see the private message from Ubotu12:49
ConstyXIVblkvulcan: ? what?12:49
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LjLeh nevermind, i cannot type that without it being autoreplaced12:50
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cyber-hazardah12:50
LjLit's exclamation-mark factoid-name > nickname12:50
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cyber-hazardoh, okay12:50
blkvulcanConstyXIV: you know how KDE your settings from a verious settngs12:50
bjrazI'll read it later, in Failsafe mode, you can't move windows arround12:50
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cyber-hazardLjL: thanks for the brief tutorial about the bot. much more entertaining that going through and adding one word to the end of variable names through out hundreds of lines of code :(12:51
cyber-hazardbut now....back to the grind12:51
LjLUbotu, tell cyber-hazard about bot | cyber-hazard, see the private message from Ubotu12:51
blkvulcanhmm i'm trying to figure out how to do it on Feisty, did it earlier today12:51
JosefKbjraz: you could try 'kwin &' to get window decorations in failsafe mode (to move them), although I'm not sure how kwin likes being run without KDE12:51
Goshamy KBluetoothD keeps trying to connect to AA:BB:CC:DD:FF:12:52
Gosha+ EE:12:52
sleepy495anyone know about the canonical repositories?12:52
Goshahow can i make it stop trying?12:53
blkvulcansleepy495: what about them12:53
ConstyXIVsleepy495: you mean the main ubuntu repositories?12:53
bjrazJossefK: it better you can run kde applicatins in failsafe mode12:53
bjraznope12:53
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JosefKshame :/12:54
sleepy495what do the Canonical repositories contain?12:54
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bjrazwait, there is an error, saying Xlib: No protocol specified12:55
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killermach_ConstyXIV: I've been following the posts on the links given, I have a /usr/lib/win32/ dir with lots of files, dll's in there, gstreamer inspect seems to have good ouput, but I only get audio from an AVI12:55
bjrazit looked like it was running kwin12:55
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ConstyXIVkillermach_: try sudo apt-get install vlc12:57
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bjrazit looked like it was running kwin12:57
JosefKbjraz: hmm, not trying to run as root or anything?12:58
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bjrazI am root12:58
bjrazsudo -i12:58
killermach_ConstyXIV: vlc is already the newest version.12:58
JosefKah, you'll need to run it as yourself, not root12:59
ConstyXIVkillermach_: use vlc to play the videos12:59
sleepy495what kind of files do the Canonical commercial repositories contain?12:59
bjrazJosefK: there was another error: cannot connect to X server  :012:59
LjLnon-free stuff i'd venture to say12:59
JosefKbjraz: yeah, that's because you're running it as root.  exit from that shell and run it as yourself12:59
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JosefKbjraz: you shouldn't run the window manager as root01:00
dopehow come some things can't be launched using katapult?01:00
bjrazokay01:00
bjrazits working01:00
ConstyXIVdope: it has to be in the k menu01:00
LjLdope: only things that are in the K menu can be launched through katapult afaik01:00
dopehow do i get it there01:00
JosefKbjraz: :) now you can move windows01:00
bjrazits wroking01:00
LjLdope: right click on the K menu, edit menu01:00
bjrazgood01:01
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user3hi can you help me,how I can do something with programs,because my memory is working on Ram: 488/504Mb01:01
JosefKuser3: that's fine, the majority of that will be disk cache01:01
LjLsorry?01:01
user3JosefK: yes but everything work slowly01:01
bjrazthe main trouble was one was always ontop01:01
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JosefKuser3: if you only have 512mb, that could be for a variety of reasons (ie. the RAM isn't the problem).  try booting with 'noapic nolapic' though, I've seen that fix some speed issues01:02
JosefKuser3: it could also be graphics drivers etc.01:02
killermach_ConstyXIV: hmm.. vlc.. has blank video  and good audio also ..01:02
dopewhere'd mark shuttleworth get his millions01:02
ConstyXIVkillermach_: do you have a clue what codec the video is in?01:03
LjL!offtopic | dope01:03
user3JosefK: thanks I will try01:03
bjrazuser3: if you can read what you are doing its fine01:03
ubotudope: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:03
killermach_I just updated w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb to w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb this did not help either01:03
user3bjraz: :) yes I can01:03
LjLJosefK: noLapic? wow, i discover a new one every day01:03
dope:|01:03
JosefKLjL: yeah, I used to have to use it for a laptop of mine, really sped the desktop up01:04
ConstyXIVsleepy495: the commercial repositories are where canonical will put commercial software not part of the distro01:04
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JosefKLjL: I ran into the same problem with a friends laptop a year or so later, so I'm guessing it isn't just anecdotal01:04
ConstyXIVsleepy495: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/01:04
sleepy495thanks01:05
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JosefKLjL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAPIC#Local_APICs01:06
killermach_ConstyXIV:  http://www.blender.org/cms/Video_Tutorials.396.0.html it looks like Divx for the one I have been trying01:06
LjLJosefK: were there any *other* problems caused by APIC, without that option? also, was there anything that could point to it, beside the perception of slowness itself? i have to use noapic myself (not because of slowness, but simply because it doesn't work otherwise), but i'm just wondering. for instance, i read yesterday that someone got their system much faster by disabling the sound card, because it generated a ton of interrupts per second. i01:06
LjLwonder how do i even *check* how many interrupts are generated01:06
ConstyXIVkillermach_: dont know what to tell you01:06
borisyeltsinif I want to know what ports my computer is listening on, how would I find that out?01:06
Kyralnetstat -tap01:06
JosefKLjL: I haven't a clue about the interrupts :/ the system eventually hung without the 'noapic nolapic'01:07
Kyralborisyeltsin: netstat -tap01:07
borisyeltsinthanks kyral01:07
LjLJosefK: hm, cursory look suggests it's only relevant on multi-processors or multi-cores, is that right? also, do you have any clue what *disadvantages* using noapic/nolapic and friends actually creates? everywhere's saying "if you have problems, use noapic". but what do you actually *lose*?01:07
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LjLJosefK: here it hangs much sooner than later, without noapic. like, just after starting init ;)01:08
christianeHello. I just installed xserver-xgl and compiz. How do I start it on Kubuntu?01:08
LjLUbotu, tell christiane about xgl | christiane, see the private message from Ubotu01:08
killermach_ConstyXIV: I found avifile-divx-plugin in synaptic that was not installed, doing that now01:08
JosefKLjL: afaik you just revert to the older style of interrupt handling01:08
borisyeltsinso if I want to start something remotely that pops up in the running x11 window how would I do that?01:08
JosefKLjL: which, really, is just a speed thing too01:08
JosefKLjL: at least by the time it reaches you :)01:08
christianeLjL: Thank you.01:09
LjLhm, speed... though apparently using the new style can create speed problems quite as well =)01:09
LjLbah, i just wish i didn't have to use this option. it makes booting from live CDs and such so much more cumbersome01:09
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JosefKLjL: true, hardware becoming obsolete eventually saved me :)01:10
killermach_ConstyXIV: well thanks for the input, I still have no joy, but have to work on it later.. thanks again01:10
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JosefKcongrats Rob-West01:10
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LjLJosefK: my APIC-supporting hardware became 'obsolete' some weeks ago due to a bang in the power supply. so i had to change it for a 'less obsolete' one that a friend of mine had given me since he'd found it in his trash =)01:11
JosefKhehe, I guess I'm less economical with my hardware, if it can't sit in another room and run a database or something it's gone01:12
LjLi wonder how even could i work on my previous K6 350... i can barely use Konqueror on some sites with this Celeron 1400. or 1700, or whatever it is01:12
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Chousukeas you move to faster systems, your standards get stricter.01:12
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LjLwell i'm quite economical, even the non-trash hardware was stuff that i got for about 120, motherboard and CPU... still, it was faster than this01:12
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LjLChousuke: i'm not sure it's really just that. on sites such as wikipedia, and others, the browser can become unresponsive for like 5 seconds, and it does it often. if this were on my K6 350, i would basically be sitting and looking at a frozen Konqueror all the time, and i don't think that's what i used to do...01:14
LjLi think it's more likely that sites have started to use CSS in more creative ways, and browsers are not quite optimized for that - since this seems to happen more on sites that use stylesheets and stylesheet-based positioning heavily01:14
LjLthough it's really just a guess01:14
Chousukehmm, I suppose01:15
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Theoryand that lovely thing which is flash of course01:15
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JosefKtrue, anyways, goodnight ^^01:15
Chousukethat's a foul word.01:15
Chousukewatch your language!01:15
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LjLah well i don't even have flash installed, so that's not the sort of sites i visit01:18
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segfault2khi01:18
segfault2kchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!01:18
LjLi'm really mostly on wikis, google groups, forums etc01:18
segfault2kwhat package i need to install?01:18
LjLsegfault2k: x-window-system-dev01:18
LjLno sorry01:18
segfault2kE: No se pudo encontrar el paquete x-window-system-dev01:19
LjLxorg-dev, on edgy01:19
segfault2klemme check01:19
segfault2kthanks01:19
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segfault2k!!01:19
segfault2k:D01:19
segfault2kthanks01:19
LjLyou're welcome01:19
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YumaGood night everyone.01:22
hopflashHallo zusammen! Hat jemand eine Idee, warum in meinem kPowersave Men nicht die Mglichkeit ist, die CPU Frequenz anders zu takten, obwohl meine CPU das kann?01:22
hopflashoh, sorry, wrong channel01:23
ConstyXIVhopflash: ubuntu-de01:23
ConstyXIVkubuntu-de01:23
hopflashyes, thx...I was unalert01:24
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Minatakuhttp://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Chocolate_Covered_SQL.aspx01:24
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manchickenLMAO01:31
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Minatakumanchicken: Number two is just a hilarious bad coincidence01:34
MinatakuXD01:34
manchickenyup01:35
manchickenSQL was nice01:35
blakadirkai'm a freaking idiot, i'm trying to install firefox.  I tar zxvf the file, and then i try ./firefox but get error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"01:36
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blakadirkaany help on why i'm an idiot?01:36
manchickenFirst, why are you trying to install firefox from a tarball?01:36
blakadirkawho knows01:36
blakadirkawhat should I be doing?01:36
manchickenUse adept to install it.01:37
segfault2kwhy adept01:37
segfault2ksudo apt-get install firefox01:37
segfault2k:)01:37
manchickenBecause adept is a great program for installing programs.. particularly for people who aren't comfortable with command-line interfaces.01:38
manchickenAdept uses apt, so it is essentially the same result.01:38
manchickenAdept gives people a better view of what they're installing, and helps manage updates.01:38
blakadirkagotcha01:39
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larson9999if you just have one package you want to install, adept isn't worth the hassle imho01:41
_morkaadept is kde synaptic?01:42
HymnToLifemore or less01:42
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HymnToLifeit's a package management app for KDE01:42
HymnToLifethere are others, like KPackage01:43
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bjrazkubuntu 6.10 comes with vim-common, and vim-tiny when I look in adept01:43
HymnToLifebjraz, to have vim-full you need to enable !universe01:44
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bjraz!universe | bjraz01:44
ubotubjraz: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:44
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bjrazokay01:47
bjrazthank you, I'll add that to my repositoryies01:47
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dopehow can i limit a user's privelages01:53
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dopewhat is lpadmin01:55
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MukiEXAzureus's "open file" option doesn't work.01:55
MukiEXIs there a fix for this?01:55
elyonCould someone help me fix LimeWire (or offer a comparable alternative)?  I have LimeWire installed, but when I run it, it just crashes right away... no messages.01:56
MinatakuMukiEX: You'd probably get farther asking them01:56
bjrazI'm useing aptitude how do I find the new vim-full there?01:56
HymnToLifebjraz, if you added universe, just do         sudo apt-get install vim-full01:58
bjrazokay01:58
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HymnToLifeMukiEX, KDE has KTorrent, which is one of the best I know, did you give it a try ?01:59
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bjrazE: Package vim-full has no installation candidate01:59
HymnToLifebjraz, if you haven't already, run          sudo apt-get update02:00
bjrazI'm not used to working with the command like entirely yet02:01
bjraz*bash02:01
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bjrazI've been a user of windows for a long time, now I'm slowly trying to change over to linux02:03
morka123tragic02:04
elyonbjraz: Congrats...02:04
morka123im curious02:04
morka123what is the attrition rate of linux noobs02:04
rafsomebody knows is there a MSN client that supports off-line messages?02:04
ConstyXIVraf: tried amsn?02:05
bjrazthank you, I can't get rid of windows, there is an MMORPG for windows that I like to play.02:05
rafConstyXIV: no, but I'm going to...02:05
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flacciddoes the msn protocol actually support offline messages yet?02:06
morka123raf: msn802:06
ConstyXIVbjraz: which mmo?02:06
bjrazthis is off topic, but, Guild Wars02:06
ConstyXIVbjraz: i dont think wine does it02:06
bjrazI thhink that cedga does?02:07
bjrazbut, that costs money02:07
rafConstyXIV: aMsn appears to work very fine02:07
ConstyXIVbjraz: not if you build from cvs02:07
rafConstyXIV: thanks02:07
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rafmorka123: is msn8 for linux?02:08
morka123no02:08
bjrazI know, there cvs is hard to find on there page, they really want you to buy it02:08
morka123or is it msn live..02:08
morka123i think its called msn live now02:08
rafmorka123: good joke02:08
ConstyXIVbjraz: google winex cvs02:08
morka123why?02:08
morka123its true, raf02:08
morka123msn live supports offline messages:)02:08
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elyonCould someone help me fix LimeWire (or offer a comparable alternative)?  I have LimeWire installed, but when I run it, it just crashes right away... no messages.02:09
ConstyXIVmorka123: it's now windows live messenger02:09
ConstyXIVelyon: mldonkey02:09
rafmorka123: yes, but I don't want to install Winbugs nor any Microsoft software02:09
ConstyXIVelyon: bit different, but rocks02:09
flaccidmsn sux badly. live sux even more. ms are so unoriginal its ridic02:09
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morka123raf: then i guess you chose not to use msn offline messages02:10
flaccidi guess you have to wait for open developers of an multi-im to support the offline messages. might take a while to rev engineer02:10
ConstyXIVi just use jabber through gmail, and aim for legacy reasons02:10
morka123kubuntu_noob: ur in ottawa?02:10
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elyonConstyXIV: Where can I get that?02:10
rafmorka123: yes, you guess is right :D02:10
ConstyXIVelyon: sudo apt-get install mldonkey-server kmldonkey02:11
kubuntu_noobit is true i am in ottawa02:11
morka123i c02:11
rafmorka123: thanks02:11
morka123np02:11
ConstyXIVbjraz: gw sorta works in wine02:11
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morka123what i find interesting, raf02:12
morka123you dont want to use any ms stuff...yet you want to use their proprietary protocols :002:12
kubuntu_noobmorka123: why the question?02:12
rafsomeone stops that bill gates' son, please!02:13
kubuntu_noobcan any help solve my kaffeine crashing woes?02:13
ConstyXIVkubuntu_noob: what's making it crash?02:13
kubuntu_noobi don't know...i'll load a file (streaming radio for ex.) and continue browsing the internet and it will just crash??02:14
ConstyXIVkubuntu_noob: try loading the same files in amarok02:15
JRH3K5I've got an Atheros 5005G wireless, and, for some reason, it doesn't like WPA-PSK under Kubuntu :(02:16
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ConstyXIVJRH3K5: what are you using for your networking?02:16
ConstyXIVJRH3K5: software, i mean?02:17
JRH3K5The built-in "Wireless Assistant Wireless LAN Manager" that comes with Kubuntu02:17
elyonConstyXIV: Wow... the search function in mldonkey absolutely sucks!02:17
JRH3K5Would you recommend something else?02:17
ConstyXIVJRH3K5: sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-kde02:18
ConstyXIVelyon: using kmldonkey or the web interface?02:18
elyonkmldonkey02:18
elyonConstyXIV: If I use a complex search, it finds hundreds of things that have nothing to do with the search terms.  If I do an MP3 search, it finds nothing lol02:19
ConstyXIVelyon: all ive ever done is dump things into the keyword box02:19
ConstyXIVelyon: always works for me02:19
elyonConstyXIV: lol now searching for the Artist there found it... but not when doing an mp3 search... interesting lol02:20
ConstyXIVelyon: you also may want to go into settings -> configure mldonkey -> networks, and enable all your favorite protocols02:20
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kubuntu_noobshould i be letting kubuntu autodetect my audio device or is one of the specified options better?02:23
yonkeltronis there an easy way to setup xen?02:23
ConstyXIVkubuntu_noob: auto02:23
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kubuntu_noobthanks. i really appreciate all the help. this is making it much easier to transition from winblows!02:24
elyonConstyXIV: Does it usually take a long time to download mp3s?  It's been "looking" for over 5 minutes now.02:24
kubuntu_noobis there a way to make sure only the proccess in use are running?02:24
ConstyXIVelyon: ed2k is like that02:25
elyonah02:25
ConstyXIVelyon: did you enable gnutella?02:25
yonkeltronkubuntu_noob: do you really want that?02:25
ConstyXIVelyon: thats what limewire uses02:25
elyonConstyXIV: Yes... do I need to restart for those to be available?02:25
ConstyXIVno, i dont think so02:25
yonkeltrongnutella is a really neat protocol02:25
kubuntu_noobi just want my system to be running as clean as possible02:26
ConstyXIVelyon: pay attention the icons next to your results, or just disable donkey02:26
yonkeltronkubuntu_noob: you are running linux....it should be just fine02:26
kubuntu_noobgreat thanks!02:26
yonkeltronkubuntu_noob: fresh install?02:26
JRH3K5<ConstyXIV> JRH3K5: sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-kde << Thank you, that did it02:27
ConstyXIVJRH3K5: youre welcome, and you may want a less cryptic handle :)02:28
JRH3K5Its cryptic nature helps to ensure its uniqueness when registering. :)02:29
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elyonConstyXIV: Okay, so I've disabled Donkey, but it's still finding a TON from the Donkey network.02:30
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premier_hello02:31
ConstyXIVelyon: it doesnt really hurt that much (coming from a donkey fan), but you could go to servers and disconnect all the donkey servers02:31
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ohyesyoucan11does anyone record their phone conversations?02:36
ConstyXIVohyesyoucan11: why are you asking?02:36
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DaSkreechHello02:36
ohyesyoucan11oh my dad's a jerk and I want to show my psychologist lol02:36
DaSkreechDoes anyone listen to the BBC Online?02:36
ConstyXIVohyesyoucan11: i would watch state laws on that02:37
ohyesyoucan11yeah, I would need to announce... this call is being recorded whenever I made a call or got one prolly.02:37
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ohyesyoucan11I wonder if I even have phone inputs and outputs on this computer, I'm too lazy lol.02:38
ConstyXIVit's called a modem02:39
ohyesyoucan11I just did 4 hours of math.02:39
ohyesyoucan11so...02:39
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ohyesyoucan11I have a surfboard modem, I just don't know if there might be something else back there, its a custom build.02:39
DaSkreechHi BluesKaj02:40
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ohyesyoucan11I want a phone with an mp3 recorder and a lie detector build in ***drools02:41
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K-Ryanwith a lie detector? o.O02:41
DaSkreechHi K-Ryan02:41
ohyesyoucan11yeah that'd be kick ass.02:41
BluesKajhi DaSkreech , whaaat's up ?02:41
K-RyanHi DaSkreech02:41
K-RyanHello to everyone else as well =P02:42
ohyesyoucan11hello :)02:42
BluesKajhi K-Ryan02:42
DaSkreechohyesyoucan11: get the Greenphone from Trolltech02:42
ohyesyoucan11:-/02:42
K-RyanIt actually has a lie detector!?02:42
ohyesyoucan11There used to be a phone with a built in lie detector at the Sharper Image.02:42
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ohyesyoucan11I think they can even evaluate how you type nowadays.02:43
yonkeltronyep02:43
K-Ryanif by evaluate you mean detect common mistakes and timing02:43
K-Ryanthen yes02:43
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ohyesyoucan11it's pretty easy to fool a lie detector, but most people don't know that.02:44
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K-Ryani know its easy, but dont know how02:45
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DaSkreechYeah but it's much harder if you don't know the person on the otherside has a lie detector02:45
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DaSkreechArgh Kaffiene is great but it needs key strokes damnit02:45
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judgenAnyone here speak german?02:45
ConstyXIVDaSkreech: global shortcuts02:45
K-Ryan!de judgen02:45
judgenmine is a bit rusty02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about de judgen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
ConstyXIVjudgen: kubuntu-de02:46
K-Ryanoops02:46
DaSkreechConstyXIV: Don't want Global :)02:46
K-Ryan!de | judgen02:46
ubotujudgen: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:46
ohyesyoucan11DaSkreech, good call, although that might be illegal. ?02:46
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DaSkreechConstyXIV: Settings -> Shortcuts works02:46
DaSkreechJust doesn't have a lot defined02:46
ConstyXIVDaSkreech: guess what you do then?02:46
DaSkreechohyesyoucan11: For most parts as long as one party knows about it it's ok02:46
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K-RyanHas anyone setup Fglrx before?02:46
ohyesyoucan11righton.  I'll look up the law after I find the DIY or whatever :)02:47
DaSkreechConstyXIV: Go through all of them and setup my own I know02:47
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ConstyXIVright02:47
DaSkreechJust don't know why a media player who's only purpose is to play media doesn't have a shortcut key for play02:47
ohyesyoucan11they have a hand held lie detector for like 199... supposed to be pretty acurate, just for like conversation. it almost looks like an ipod.02:47
ConstyXIVohyesyoucan11: try to stay on-topic in here...02:48
bjraztrue the google search will show you were in Sourceforge you would fine winx, but there is no repository there02:48
bjraz*where02:48
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DaSkreech!real02:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:49
ConstyXIVbjraz: according to winehq, guildwars works02:50
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bjrazokay, thank you02:50
morka123at whooping 3fps!02:50
ConstyXIVbjraz: http://ting.homeunix.org/cvs_wine/GetWineX.html02:50
K-RyanHas anyone setup Fglrx before?02:51
DaSkreech!fglrx02:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:51
K-RyanI need to know the command to open up the config thing for it02:51
K-RyanNot that page, thanks though02:51
MamanNhas anyone use automatix?02:51
DaSkreech!automatix02:51
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:51
K-Ryanlol02:51
K-RyanThat can't be good.02:51
bjrazcan it be run from a windows native partiaion?02:51
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ConstyXIVbjraz: can what be run from a windows partition?02:54
ohyesyoucan11ConstyXIV... K, I mean it would be great if I could do it with Kubuntu, but I've never succesfully completed any hardware modification like that... so I was wondering about doing it KDE.02:54
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bjrazwindows programs02:54
bjrazwith wine02:54
ConstyXIVohyesyoucan11: ive never really handled modems in linux02:54
ConstyXIVbjraz: yeah02:54
ConstyXIVohyesyoucan11: phone line modems, that is02:55
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MamanNo ya, so how to get software that listed in automatix that can savely installed02:55
ohyesyoucan11I bet if I had one, I could do it.02:55
ohyesyoucan11(a phone modem)02:55
DaSkreechMamanN: The hard way or the easy way?02:55
MamanNeasy way02:56
DaSkreech!easyubuntu02:56
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu02:56
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MamanNDaSKkreech: Im a ewbie02:56
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DaSkreechThat is the newbie way02:56
bjrazI can't run wine, cause I can only access ntfs with root02:56
codytnot a ewbie02:56
MamanNsory newbie, so i need the easiest but save :)02:57
K-RyanMammanN the best way is to do it the normal way02:57
K-RyanClick the install icon on the desktop02:57
K-RyanI'll walk you through it02:57
DaSkreechMamanN: Safest way is the "hard way"02:57
MamanNbut some of the software arent listed on the ubuntu repo02:58
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K-RyanHrmm?02:58
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DaSkreechMamanN: Which software?02:58
DaSkreechHi shinigami02:58
K-RyanAre you trying to install from the Live CD?02:58
MamanNjust like swiftfox02:59
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shinigamihi..i just upgraded from dapper to edgy.. when i boot up, it doesn't go into the kde itself...i have to press ctrl-alt-f7..what's wrong?02:59
shinigamiHi DaSkreech hehe..edgy02:59
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soulriderhi02:59
DaSkreechHey soulrider03:00
makuseruwhat are some programs for recording audio in kubuntu03:00
soulriderhey DaSkreech03:00
bjrazoh! I need to make my ntfs partission Writable, duh!03:00
soulridermakuseru: check under multimedia, there is a program there03:00
DaSkreechmakuseru: What level of recoding are you talking about?03:00
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makuseruim just looking to an alternative to audacity03:01
DaSkreechUmm Audacity is pretty damn good :)03:02
bjrazI can't make my ntfs partission writeable, I'll be on later, I need to go to dinner.03:02
makuserui dont like it03:02
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benoisi currently have kde 3.5.2 installed, from the original dapper repo and i want to test kde 3.5.5 from the kde-update repo. but will i be able to easily downgrade back to 3.5.5 after the test, and how (if i will)?03:02
soulriderbenois: you mean downgrade to 3.5.2 ?03:03
K-RyanUmm, when typing "bash ./ati-driver-installer.8.33.run --buildpkg Kubuntu/edgy" it tells me no such file or firectory03:03
MamanNDaSKreech: Swiftfox03:03
K-RyanI'm trying to follow the steps in here...03:03
benoissoulrider: yes, back to 3.5.203:03
K-Ryan!fglrx03:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:03
K-Ryanfor the ATI stuff03:03
K-RyanCan someone help?03:03
soulriderbenois: im not sure, but why would you wanna downgrade ?03:04
DaSkreechK-Ryan: Maybe there is no file :)03:04
DaSkreechMamanN: What about it?03:04
K-RyanI downloaded it though DaSkreech03:04
soulriderK-Ryan: sorry, i have an nvidia card03:04
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benoissoulrider: i am testing some incompatible versions of some apps, and i will have to go back and forth a few times (upgrade / downgrade kde)03:04
DaSkreechK-Ryan: and you are in the same folder you downloaded it to?03:04
K-RyanUhh, tried that, let me try again03:05
MamanNcan i get it from official repo?03:05
benoissoulrider: anyway, is it possible, theoretically?03:05
DaSkreechIs'mt swiftfox an extenstion?03:05
soulrideri see benois, i really dont know how to do it, i but i remember Hawkwind helped me to downgrade once03:05
K-RyanYeah I have it there03:05
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soulriderbenois: i downgraded once, the guide was in Hawkwind's forum, let me try and find the link03:06
DaSkreechand you are in the same folder in the Konsole?03:06
K-RyanYeah03:06
benoissoulrider: oh, thank you, i am waiting03:06
K-RyanI think it's because I have to put in the version of the file03:06
shinigamiwhat are the scripts that linux use after booting up? something like autoexec.bat in windows, rc.local in linux?03:06
K-Ryan8.33.603:06
shinigami!rc03:06
uboturc: an implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 184 kB03:06
DaSkreechK-Ryan: is it executable?03:06
K-Ryan.run03:06
MamanNI see this browserSwiftFox is stable enought in my pc, it design for more specific processor03:06
K-RyanThis line doesn't seem right03:07
K-Ryan"/ati-driver-installer.8.33.6.run --buildpkg Kubuntu/edgy"03:07
K-RyanThe 8.33.6 part is the version03:07
K-RyanHow should I put that in the line?03:07
DaSkreechK-Ryan: Tab is your friend03:07
K-Ryanby the way its /ati.......03:07
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DaSkreechtype ./ati<tab>03:08
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soulriderbenois: http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=4fvkh6ncfmujmt0lflge4hf7c5&topic=609.003:08
DaSkreechMamanN: What is swiftfox? isn't it an extension I'm almost sure03:08
soulriderthats for kde 3.5.3 though03:08
benoissoulrider: thanks a lot03:08
soulriderbut i think you might be able to adapt it03:08
benoissoulrider: right03:08
MamanNSwiftFox is a browser another version of FireFox i think03:09
levi__can someone help me set up pidentd03:09
DaSkreechMamanN: can you give me a link?03:09
DaSkreechlevi__: What's pidentd?03:09
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levi__its a ident program03:10
MamanNhere is http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm03:10
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levi__so i can back put an ident before @24.XX.XX.XX03:10
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DaSkreech!info pidendt03:11
ubotuPackage pidendt does not exist in any distro I know03:11
sampan!info pidentd03:11
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ubotupidentd: TCP/IP IDENT protocol server with DES support. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.19.ds1-1 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 140 kB03:11
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codytwoo, I may have got freespire to r un on my other box that hates linux.03:12
levi__Can you help daskreech?03:12
shadowhywindanyone around that can help me with my ssh problems, trying to connect to the server behind a router03:12
DaSkreechlevi__: sudo apt-get install pidendt should install it03:13
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DaSkreechlevi__: sudo apt-get install pidentd should install it03:13
levi__how do i set it up03:13
levi__that is what i dont know03:13
levi__i installed it03:13
DaSkreechOh... umm03:14
K-RyanHey, while typing the "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" it says "cannot access archive:" "Erros encountered: *.deb"03:14
DaSkreechtry man pidentd03:14
K-Ryan*Errors03:14
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K-RyanWhat did I do wrong now?03:14
levi__No manual entry for pidentd03:14
levi__?03:14
MamanNon automatix2 the package select automaticly by checking our processor03:14
DaSkreechK-Ryan: What are you trying to install?03:14
K-RyanFglrx03:15
K-RyanThe steps that you even linked me to, aren't working03:15
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DaSkreechMamanN: what processor do yo uhave?03:16
levi__DaSkreech, no man for pident03:17
levi__DaSkreech, no man for pidentd03:17
DaSkreechlevi__: How did you install it?03:17
DaSkreechK-Ryan: Ok tell me what you have done so far03:17
K-Ryansudo apttude blah blah blah03:18
K-Ryandisable composite extension03:18
K-Ryanblacklist old fglrx module03:18
K-Ryan"next"03:18
MamanNPentium 4 2.4Ghz but I need to install on many pc in may office so i want it anoutmaticly selected03:18
K-Ryanand now im on sudo dpkg -i *.deb03:18
levi__can you help with using adept03:18
levi__sorry03:18
levi__i used adept03:18
DaSkreechMamanN: Your office runs Ubuntu? :)03:19
K-Ryanlevi__ adept manager?03:19
K-RyanOr Add/Remove programs?03:19
DaSkreechlevi__: ok in adept do a search for pidentd then click details03:19
K-RyanDaSkreech more effective and cheaper than Vista =P03:19
levi__ok03:19
DaSkreechIn details you should see installed files03:19
MamanNI have various Processor here, Not All but I plan too move 50% of my office pc will usu ubuntu03:19
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DaSkreechtell me which one you see in a bin folder03:19
MamanNI have various Processor here, Not All but I plan too move 50% of my office pc will use ubuntu03:19
K-RyanMammanN What are the other half going to use?03:20
DaSkreechMamanN: First Very cool :) Second I guess Easyubuntu is your ticket then03:20
MamanNK-Ryan : not sure03:20
K-RyanJust curious03:20
levi__i just need help setting it up03:21
K-RyanKonsole is mocking me03:21
MamanNWhat difference between ubuntu and edubuntu? its same i thing (not sure)03:21
sampanlevi__  here's a ubuntu community how-to for pidentd setup .. but it's for Ubuntu and 6.06 -- so there MAY be differences with Kubuntu and 6.10: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-227857.html03:22
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K-RyanI made a spelling mistake and it said "fglrx-kernal, what is fglrx-kernal?"03:22
Rob-Westrumour has said it that bigs is a bold monkey fucker and a hacker!!!03:22
levi__thanks03:22
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MamanNits edubuntu better than ubuntu for my office need?03:23
sampanlevi__ sure, i hope it works ... if it does, can you tell me?  i've thought about setting up pidentd too, just never got around to it03:23
MamanNis edubuntu better than ubuntu for my office need?03:23
K-Ryanedubuntu is for schools i heard03:23
soulriderMamanN: i think kubuntu is probably allright03:24
K-RyanAlright I doubt I set Fglrx up right, but I'm restarting just to see if i did03:24
MamanNI ve see Kubuntu too, may be Kubuntu easier to adapt our staff03:24
soulridertheres a patch for openm office youre gonna need though03:24
soulriderit fixes a crrash03:24
MamanNthey are migrate from Msft, so I need the closest look and feel03:25
soulrideropen office looks just like the microshyte stuff03:25
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Ashexshould i be worried that when i type sudo, it doesn't prompt for a password?03:25
spitwisenope03:26
spitwiseit stays for 15minutes03:26
Ashexlemme elaborate03:26
spitwisemkay03:26
Ashexshould i be worried that when i type sudo, it never prompts for a password?03:26
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spitwiselemme elaborate03:26
spitwisenope03:26
judgenis the picmca bus limited to 10mbit?03:26
spitwiseheh03:26
spitwisenot even the very first time?03:26
Ashexthat's what I'm saying, i haven't had to enter it at all03:27
AshexI opened up another screen just to check03:27
Ashexit doesn't prompt me03:27
spitwisesudo <app name>  ?03:27
spitwisesudo  <command>  ?03:27
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MamanN50 % mean 100 pc, is there easiest way to install rapidly?03:27
Ashexyeah03:27
Ashexdoesn't prompt03:27
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beg1689why dont i have g++?03:28
makuseru!flash 903:28
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports03:28
beg1689but i have gcc03:28
judgenAshex have you enable the root account in kubuntu?03:28
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makuseru!flash03:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:28
spitwiseAshex: got me stumped03:28
beg1689flash 9 is avaliable straight from abode now too03:28
makuseruis it?03:28
makuseru?>*03:28
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Ashexjudgen, yes. I enabled it awhile back, but this is recent03:28
beg1689yea its finally out03:28
shadowhywindand it works for me at least, hehe03:28
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beg1689works pretty good here03:29
Ashexalthough, i should probably disable it and just use sudo -i03:29
judgenAshex exvuse me for asking, but what was the problem? I came in late into the discussion03:29
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beg1689ok, back to my stupid question, wheres g++03:29
shadowhywindi haven't been able to break it yet. so thats always a good thing, hehe03:29
beg1689what package03:29
Ashexjudgen, sudo never prompts me for a password03:29
DaSkreech!language | Rob-West03:29
ubotuRob-West: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:29
Ashexjudgen, and that includes the first time i enter it03:29
judgenif you have enabled the root account it never does03:29
MamanNDaSKreech: 50% mean 100 pc, are there easy way to installit rapidly03:29
judgenbecause youre logged in as root03:30
spitwiseAshex: read this url: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20724.html03:30
spitwiseor that.03:30
boblenyHey, can some one help me fix my LAMP?03:30
Rob-Westsorry03:30
Rob-Westi wont swear03:30
judgenbobleny did it broke?03:30
K-RyanGood news + Bad news03:31
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K-RyanFglrx works03:31
boblenyIt first has to work before it can "broke"03:31
K-RyanI got about 1/3FPS in a game.03:31
K-RyanWhere did I go wrong!?03:31
judgenK-Ryan do a fglrxinfo in the terminal03:31
K-Ryanyeah?03:32
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judgenwhat does it say? MESA or ATI03:32
judgenon renderer03:32
shadowhywindanyone around that can help me with my ssh issue?03:32
K-RyanMesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x TCL03:32
K-Ryanunder OpenGL renderer string:03:32
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boblenyI followed the LAMP guid from the ubuntu site, but I cant get it to work. When I go to localhost I get nothing.03:32
Ashexjudgen, i'm not logged in as root though..03:32
K-RyanOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)03:32
judgenK-Ryan could you post your /var/log/X11/xorg.log to the pastebin and ill have a look03:33
levi__sampan do you know how to create a specific ident?03:33
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DaSkreechbeg1689: did you install b-e ?03:33
judgenK-Ryan there is your problem btw03:33
K-RyanWhere?03:33
judgenits using mesa and not fglrx renderer03:33
judgenbut i cant know why untill i see your log03:33
sampanlevi__  nope, i haven't ever set up an identd server.  i just found the guide since i've thought about doing so.  sorry :/03:33
judgenpaste it to the pastebin03:34
judgen!pastebin03:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:34
DaSkreech!anyone | shadowhywind03:34
ubotushadowhywind: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:34
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Ashex spitwise, thanks for the link, that explains it :)03:34
spitwisecool :)03:34
shadowhywinddaskreech i allready did ask my question03:34
K-RyanMy xorg.log seems to be empty03:34
levi__its ok03:34
DaSkreechI didn't see it :-(03:34
K-Ryani should be typing "sudo kate /var/log/X11/xorg.log" right?03:35
wolfwalkerI'm trying to access the internet with my Kubuntu computer.03:35
shadowhywindin anycase i am having issues with my ssh stuff, behind a router03:35
judgenK-Ryan use tab to name complete03:35
DaSkreechK-Ryan: kdesu kate etc etc03:35
wolfwalkerIt won't recognize the ethernet cable03:35
wolfwalkerSo I tried running the usb setup cd03:35
wolfwalkerI can run it in wine03:35
shadowhywindif i type 192.yada.stuf, it works but when i try to connect using the true ip it doesn't connect. And i have opened the port in the router03:35
DaSkreechshadowhywind: Did you set up a forward in the router?03:36
judgenoh it might be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log tough03:36
wolfwalkerQuestion: If I run my internet connection in wine, will Kubuntu be able to even get to the internet through the wine layer?03:36
shadowhywindyup, i actraully put it in DMZ, so all the ports are fully open, or at least should be opened03:36
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boblenyDon't forget about me...03:36
K-Ryanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2114/03:37
wolfwalkerAnybody?03:37
shadowhywindany ideas daskreech03:37
judgenK-Ryan have you enabled dri and disabled composite in your xorg.conf?03:37
DaSkreechbobleny: g++?03:38
K-Ryanumm, im pretty sure i did that03:38
boblenyDaSkreech, huh?03:38
DaSkreechwolfwalker: do you have an IP address?03:38
spitwisebobleny: have you started apache?03:38
DaSkreechbobleny: What was your question?03:38
wolfwalkerDo I before I connect to the internet? No.03:38
judgenK-Ryan can you post your xorg.conf too so i can have a look?03:38
DaSkreechwolfwalker: how do you connect?03:38
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wolfwalkerI don't understand the question DaSkreech. I'm a linux newb03:39
wolfwalkerOh, right now?03:39
wolfwalkerI'm on my Winblows computer03:39
K-RyanHold on one second, I'm changing my sync rate because I didn't have that right03:39
DaSkreechwolfwalker: how does it connect to the internet?03:39
boblenyYes, I have started apache03:39
wolfwalkerethernet cable, if you're referring to the hardware03:39
K-Ryanhrmm, no it was right03:39
DaSkreechwolfwalker: DSL?03:39
wolfwalkerPhone line to DSL modem to ethernet cable to computer03:40
judgenK-Ryan im almost 100% sure that you havent enabled dri and disabled composite, since it tries to load aiglx03:40
K-Ryanjudgen where is xorg.conf?03:40
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mefistoneed help!!!!!03:40
mefistoagain XD03:40
K-Ryanmefisto what did i tell you?03:40
K-RyanTell us the problem =P03:40
judgenK-Ryan its in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:41
mefistok-ryan! nice to see you ^^03:41
mefistomy problem is03:41
mefistoI installed firefox via Adept, but it installed firefox 1.503:41
mefistonow, how can i update to firefox 2.0.1 via apt-get?03:41
DaSkreechwolfwalker: do you have a network icon in the status tray?03:41
judgenmefisto just install 2.0 via adept and it will replace the 1.5 install03:41
wolfwalkerDaSkreech: worst part is I've asked around, no internet providers give support for Linux of any kind03:41
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DaSkreechwolfwalker: Yeah a lot of them are jerks03:42
K-Ryanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2116/03:42
mefistojudgen: what if it doesn't appears in adept?03:42
wolfwalkerOh, you want my ip address right now? I can get that from whatismyip.com03:42
judgenwolfwalker but hp, ibm and sun gives support for linux03:42
DaSkreechwolfwalker: good thing we ae here eh? :)03:42
K-Ryanwolfwalker it is www.whatismyipaddress.com03:42
wolfwalkerWell it works either way03:42
K-Ryanoh =)03:42
wolfwalkerwhatismyip.com does the same thing03:42
boblenyI followed this guide to install apache, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP03:42
wolfwalkerhp, ibm and sun are not available in this area03:42
wolfwalkerOr if they are, I haven't found them yet03:43
K-Ryanjudgen find anything i did wrong?03:43
judgenbtw K-Ryan have you rebooted the computer since you disabled composite?03:43
K-RyanI think so...03:43
DaSkreechwolfwalker: How are you with DOS? :)03:43
K-RyanI disabled that last night03:43
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K-Ryanand restarted a few times03:43
wolfwalkerHP is Hewlett Packard, right?03:43
judgenok..03:43
wolfwalkerAnd IBM03:43
judgenthen its the gl-lib03:43
wolfwalkerWhat is sun?03:43
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DaSkreechwolfwalker: I take it you have one machine?03:43
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K-RyanJava company I think03:43
judgenK-Ryan gimme a sec and ill search for it for you03:44
wolfwalkerDaSkreech: I can use the computer to run my music programs......... that's about all I know03:44
K-RyanThanks judgen03:44
wolfwalkerDaSkreech: No, this Windoze machine is running only M$. It is the family computer. I have two mainframes upstairs, a Windows and a Kubuntu03:44
DaSkreechI'm picking that up :) that's fine03:45
wolfwalkerAnd they are all small enough that I don't want to dual-boot03:45
wolfwalkerSo if I install the USB drivers for my modem in Wine, will Kubuntu be able to access the internet connection through the wine app layer?03:45
shadowhywindwhat is the linux text-based internet browsers name?03:46
DaSkreechwolfwalker: Where is the Kubuntu machine??03:46
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wolfwalkerUpstairs. I have to port it down to connect03:46
codytI don't think windows drivers work on linux at all, do they?03:46
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mefisto~____~03:46
wolfwalkerThey do in wine03:46
judgenK-Ryan do a "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri"03:46
sampanshadowhywind there's several i think: links2 w3m and lynx03:47
shadowhywindthanks03:47
DaSkreechwolfwalker: That's the one that can't connect?03:47
wolfwalkerI have another question, but I'll let this one get by first03:47
wolfwalkerYes, the Linux computer03:47
xenophile7x7is wine available through the multiverse repo, or do i need to d/l it elsewhere?03:47
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wolfwalkerIt won't recognize the ethernet connection, so I'm running the usb drivers in wine.03:48
K-RyanOkay judgen now what?03:48
DaSkreech!wine03:48
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:48
wolfwalkerWill Kubuntu be able to reach through the wine layer to get to the internet?03:48
DaSkreechwolfwalker: USB ethernet?03:48
wolfwalkerNo, USB instead of ethernet03:48
wolfwalkerThis modem has both connection options03:48
DaSkreechAhhhhhhhhh03:48
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K-Ryanfglrxinfo still says Mesa03:48
zeekstarrcan anybody tell me how to speed up torrents in ktorrent03:48
DaSkreechand you can't get ethernet working?03:49
wolfwalkerNope03:49
codytmodem = ?03:49
judgenK-Ryan now you link the libgl.so.1 to your fglrx dir03:49
K-Ryan?03:49
K-Ryancommand?03:49
K-Ryanzeekstarr: hope03:49
K-Ryantorrents depend on other people sharing it03:49
DaSkreechwolfwalker: What happens?03:49
wolfwalkerSo I'm trying to install the usb drivers for the modem from the supplied cd. They run in wine, because the installer is an .exe file.03:49
DaSkreechwhat modem?03:50
zeekstarrhttp://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/7368603:50
wolfwalkerThat's what I want to know. If I install the drivers in wine, will Kubuntu be able to read the usb drivers for the modem and reach the internet through the wine app layer?03:50
zeekstarrthis lead me to believe that I could alter something, but I have no idea03:50
codytWine will close when the .exe file returns, though.03:50
judgenK-Ryan first you locate where the libgl.so.1.2 is03:51
codytI don't see how wine could possibly allow the drivers to function, though.03:51
judgenyou can use kdes search03:51
K-Ryanzeekstarr that could be it, or there may only  be a few people providing it03:51
K-Ryanjudgen how?03:51
wolfwalkerSo, what are these internet providers who support Linux and are they in West TN?03:51
zeekstarrI think something is wrong, because even when there are 100 + seeders/leechers I'm lucky to bring down 5ks on cable03:52
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K-RyanThen check that forum03:52
DaSkreechwolfwalker: What modem is it?03:52
wolfwalkerUtopia03:52
zeekstarrtheir all windows users03:52
wolfwalkerWhoops03:52
judgenK-Ryan just look in /usr/lib/dri is there a file there called libgl.so.1.203:52
wolfwalkerNetopia03:52
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wolfwalkerzeekstarr: lol03:52
wolfwalkerProbably03:52
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codytNetopia what?03:53
DaSkreech!modem03:53
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto03:53
DaSkreechHmm03:53
boblenyMy turn yet?03:53
K-Ryanjudgen no libgl.so.1.203:54
wolfwalkerDialup? Heaven forbid! lol03:54
codythey, don't make fun of me.03:54
judgenK-Ryan no libgl at all?03:54
wolfwalkerjudgen, what are these internet providers you rattled off, and are any of them in West TN?03:54
judgenwolfwalker they are not isps they are the worlds largest computermakers03:54
wolfwalkerIf they support linux, I'm their best customer as of yesterday03:54
xenophile7x7does linux have a command equivalent to the windows 'tree'03:55
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wolfwalkerYeah, I knew that. I was asking about internet providers, and I thought you meant they had internet service too03:55
K-Ryanatiogl_a_dri, ffb_dri, fglrx_dri, i810_dri, i915_dri, i965_dri, mach64_dri, mga_dri, r128_dri, r200_dri, r300_dri, radeon_dri, s3v, savage, sis, tdfx, trident, unichrome03:55
K-RyanI stopped putting dri because they all have it...03:55
wolfwalkerSorry, my misunderstanding03:55
NightBirdI'm having problems getting audio to work.  What is a good resource to help me figure out how to fix it?03:55
codytwolfwalker, your modem is a Netopia what?03:55
DaSkreechcodyt: You know about this stuff?03:56
wolfwalkerUm........... that's all I know. My provider (such as it is) is Centurytel, the modem is a Netopia modem03:56
codytwas gonna look up the modem specifically on google.com/linux03:56
K-Ryansorry judgen but i've got to go, ill be on tomorrow if you wanna continue helping me =)03:56
K-Ryanmost of the day too so, catch you guys on the flip side03:56
judgenK-Ryan do you havea libgl file in your /usr/lib/fglrx/ folder?03:56
wolfwalkerIt says Cayman 3300 series on the bottom, if that helps03:56
K-Ryani will check really quick =)03:57
judgenK-Ryan this will take max one more minute03:57
K-Ryanyes03:57
judgengood03:57
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K-Ryanput it where?03:57
makuseru!opengl03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
K-Ryanor do what with it?03:57
makuseruwhere can i download open gl 203:57
codytwell, Netopia drivers will likely vary between the different models.  You should be able to find model information somewhere on the modem.03:58
codytnot necessarily.. but usually.03:58
wolfwalkerIt says Cayman 3300 series on the bottom, if that helps03:58
judgenK-Ryan do a "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/fglrx/libgl.so.1.2 /usr/lib/dri" Then "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/fglrx/libgl.so.1.2 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri" then youre done03:58
K-Ryanmakuseru check the card manufacturer for linux drivers, if you have an nvidia or ati you may need fglrx03:58
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judgenK-Ryan you might have to reboot though. Im not sure03:59
makuseruK-Ryan: i have ATI but i dont use fglrx, card to old03:59
K-Ryani think so but i gotta go03:59
K-Ryancya, dont know then makuseru, good luck03:59
judgenoh and dont forget the slashes after the dri folders03:59
judgenK-Ryan important03:59
K-Ryanafter?03:59
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judgenK-Ryan do a "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/fglrx/libgl.so.1.2 /usr/lib/dri/" Then "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/fglrx/libgl.so.1.2 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/" then youre done04:00
judgenthats the way it should look =)04:00
judgenthen a quick reboot, and you should have accellerated fglrx04:00
codytwolfwalker, look into this -> http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/modems.shtml04:00
K-Ryanln:creating symbolic link blah blah blah no such file or directory04:01
manchickenfglrx is quite destablizing.04:01
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judgenwhat is the name of your libgfile?04:01
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K-Ryanabout to get in trouble =), sorry04:01
K-Ryantomorrow04:01
judgennp04:01
DaSkreech:-)04:01
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judgeni dont mind, hell have to find someone else tomorrow though, then im going to be drunk as a pulp04:02
judgen=)04:02
codytwish I could say that.04:02
judgengonna gat myself a barrel of gin and watch red dwarf04:02
codytBeen sober for weeks04:02
judgenive been sober for over two days04:02
wolfwalkerThat lets me out then04:02
wolfwalkerMine is a 3300 model :/04:03
judgenwolfwalker ok now, what was your problem? I was helping k-ryan and didnt pay much attention?04:03
codytYou said series.04:03
codytwhich would mean 33xx04:03
wolfwalkerOh yea04:03
codytSo, the driver *could* work.04:03
wolfwalkeryeah*04:04
DaSkreech:-)04:04
codytnot sure that it *will* but it could.04:04
DaSkreechMamanN: how are you?04:04
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wolfwalkerWow, that was small04:05
wolfwalkerSo what do I do with it now?04:05
jarn_When I run something that opens a window from the command line, I get this error: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169".04:05
wolfwalkerI mean, as soon as I take it up to my Linux computer04:05
judgenbtw if anyone is interested, i played Guild Wars successfully in 12 hours in linux using the fglrx drivers04:05
judgenno crashes or bugs afaik04:06
wolfwalkerGuild Wars is supposed to rock, I hear04:06
codytwas it a tar file?04:06
DaSkreech:-)04:06
wolfwalkerYup04:06
wolfwalker.tar.gz04:06
jarn_wolfwalker: It does rock.04:06
wolfwalkerNope04:06
jarn_wolfwalker: I <3 it.04:06
wolfwalker.tar.bz204:06
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judgenwolfwalker hasent worked in cedega since build 16000 or so, now cedega 5.29 has come out we can play again! =)04:06
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codytwolfwalker, know how to uncompress it?04:07
judgenAnd now we can play on ATI cards too as ATI shaped up and made better drivers04:07
wolfwalkerI wouldn't know, but I do know the joy of getting a long-lost game back :)04:07
wolfwalkercody, nope04:07
judgentar -zxvf or use the app ark04:07
wolfwalkerNor how to use what I get when I do04:07
wolfwalkerBut I know where the command prompt is, and I can copy and paste to notepad whatever you tell me to do.04:07
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codytAfter you uncompress it, it will probably have installation instructions in a file called INSTALL04:07
wolfwalkerIs there an uncompress command on right click?04:08
codytwhat judgen said is how to uncompress it.04:08
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codytIt might have Ark options in the menu.04:08
codyt"extract to," or something like that.04:08
wolfwalker10/404:09
wolfwalkerAnd thank you very much04:09
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judgenanyone got a voodoo 5 pci thay wanna sell?04:09
wolfwalkerMaybe *sniff* maybe there will be a Kubuntu internet connection for me someday04:09
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wolfwalkerOkay, now I'm creeping myself out04:10
wolfwalkerBye04:10
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judgenpuppy04:10
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wolfwalkerSounds like one of those pokemon things04:10
codytnah, gotta go to special puppu shops.04:10
wolfwalkerAh04:10
wolfwalkerNo interest04:10
wolfwalkerAnd they don't have those out here in the backwoods of Tennessee, USA04:11
wolfwalkerI'm guessing shipping would be harsh for something as big as a puppu04:11
judgenLOL i got a error in kde saying "you windows installation is unstable and my be infected by a virus, install pcdoctor to fix this problem" (it was a konqueror popup) hahahahaha04:11
wolfwalkerOkay, that's enough from me. I think I need some sleep.04:11
wolfwalkerActually, I have to agree with that04:11
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codythahaha04:12
wolfwalkerHeard about the Windows Vista "Upgrade now" thing?04:12
judgeni need some food, alsost breakfast04:12
judgenwolfwalker nope04:12
wolfwalkerSeems ALL FOUR VERSIONS of Vista are embedded in the program04:12
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judgenwolfwalker oh, so very legal =P04:12
wolfwalkerAnd you can upgrade instantly at any time by paying out the nose and getting the keycode04:12
judgenyeah, the dvds =)04:12
wolfwalkerSo yeah, it takes up lots and lots of filespace04:12
judgenvista sucks my hairy *ahem* head04:13
codyteh, I'm not going to waste my time with vista.04:13
DaSkreechwolfwalker: used linux before?04:13
wolfwalkerNo, the keycode. All four versions are installed, you just have to pay to activate them04:13
wolfwalkerlol04:13
wolfwalkerNope, Kubuntu is my first04:13
judgen20gb is vista RC2 default and uses 2gb ram if it is available04:13
wolfwalkerBut I like it, I like it!04:13
wolfwalkerIf only I can net connect04:13
codytwolfwalker, that's good.04:13
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wolfwalkerk3b doth verily rock mightily04:13
wolfwalkerimo04:13
judgenwolfwalker you cant?04:13
codytwolfwalker: that'll be the tricky part.04:13
wolfwalkerAnd I have audacity!!!04:14
judgenwolfwalker adsl modem?04:14
wolfwalkerThe only thing I might have missed from Windoze would be Audacity music editor04:14
codytyeah.04:14
wolfwalkerGotta go04:14
judgendidnt think people actually used dialup anymore04:14
wolfwalkerThanks for the driver link04:14
judgenaudacity works in linux04:14
judgenbtw04:14
codytjudgen, some of us don't have an option.04:14
wolfwalkerI shall return with more annoying newbie questions04:14
wolfwalkerYes, audacity works in Linux04:14
wolfwalkerVery well, in fact04:14
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wolfwalkerUgly as homemade sin, but works very well04:15
wolfwalkerNight y'all, and thanks04:15
DaSkreechNight04:15
codytAside from  satellite ( > $500 for the initial fee) Dialup is all we can get here.04:15
codytNo cable, no dsl.04:15
judgenyou can use the windows version too if you want, you can run most windows programs that does not use shell32.dll in linux through wine04:15
DaSkreechMamanN: Still awake?04:15
judgencodyt holy crap! thats BAD04:15
judgencodyt where?04:15
DaSkreechdamn it Ubuntu needs an #ubuntu-games04:16
judgensouth africa?04:16
DaSkreechor at least a team04:16
DaSkreechAntartica04:16
judgenDaSkreech no way!04:16
codytMy house, I live in an odd place.04:16
codytThe rest of the town can get cable and DSL04:16
judgenaaah04:16
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DaSkreechjudgen: Which?04:16
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DaSkreech#ubuntu-games or antartica?04:17
judgenDaSkreech i dont think there are many people living in antarctica04:17
codytwell, we might be able to get DSL here, but it's through the phone company, and they're bad about screwing us over.04:17
judgenDaSkreech maybe about 50 or so04:17
DaSkreechQuite a lot actually04:17
DaSkreechthat's enough to run Net :)04:17
codytThe bills will suddenly jump up to crazy  amounts, and to have DSL we'd have to have it on auto-withdrawl from the bank.04:17
judgenDaSkreech true, the worlds smallest coutry has internet connection, and its in the middle of the pacific ocean, and has 57inhabitants =)04:18
judgenonly 12hours a day or so but still04:18
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judgensatelite and lan =)04:18
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DaSkreechhi BluesKaj04:18
judgennever met anyone from pitkern islands though online04:18
DaSkreechSO anyone listens to BBC online?04:18
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judgenor in real life for that matter either04:19
DaSkreechjudgen: If they have ICQ it's pretty easy04:19
DaSkreechYou can search by country04:19
codytoh, speaking of  games, (can't get  cedega yet), know of any good Linux games?04:19
BluesKajI watch BBC world , does that count ?04:19
codytstupid  cedega_time trial failed upon install and doesn't work at all.04:19
judgenDaSkreech hahaha i think they have their own country code even though they are only online 12 hours and have 57 inhabitants =)04:19
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Online?04:20
BluesKajno satellire dish here in Canada04:20
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judgenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands04:20
judgennice map here04:20
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BluesKajsatellite04:20
judgenoh my fault, the nation is 67 people =)04:20
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judgenand their internet pld is .pn04:21
xenophile7x7is WINE available from a repo? and is there a linux equivalent of the 'tree' command?04:21
BluesKajyeah, all related going back 250 yrs04:21
DaSkreech!pn04:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:21
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DaSkreechStupid bot :-)04:21
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NightBirdwhere can I get help for getting audio to work in my laptop? lspci lists the audio device as "ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)"04:21
DaSkreechxenophile7x7: Did you read the URL posted earlier?04:22
judgenthey should have choosen .pwn i would get one directly04:22
DaSkreechNightBird: Which laptop?04:22
xenophile7x7it didnt work04:22
DaSkreechxenophile7x7: What didn't work?04:22
NightBirdDaSkreech: an Acer aspire 305004:22
xenophile7x7the URL04:22
judgenxenophile7x7 get wine and use tree from there?04:22
DaSkreechHmm04:22
DaSkreech!laptop04:22
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org04:22
DaSkreechNightBird: try the first Link04:23
DaSkreech!wine04:23
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:23
xenophile7x7judgen, that would work. was just curious if there was a linux equivalent04:23
DaSkreechxenophile7x7: Works fine for me04:23
NightBirdDaSkreech: nothing for the 3050..04:23
DaSkreech!worksforme | DaSkreech04:23
ubotuDaSkreech: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:23
judgenxenophile7x7 to get latest wine add this line to your sources.list deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main04:23
judgenthen apt-get wine04:24
xenophile7x7thanks judgen.04:24
judgenxenophile7x7 i never used tree in windows (nor do i use windows commandline as it gets me frustrated)04:24
xenophile7x7skreech, keeps tellin me its an invalid url04:24
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xenophile7x7ive tried clicking it, and typing it04:24
xenophile7x7judgen: i used xtree in windows, instead of just the command. it was mainly usefull in tracking files for my fileserver. i had alot, particular e-books04:25
xenophile7x7lol, the site comes up if i refresh it, but if i click or type the link, it gives me an error04:26
judgenxenophile7x7oh btw the tree command is an unix command ported to windows04:26
xenophile7x7really?04:26
xenophile7x7i didnt know that...04:26
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xenophile7x7alright, thanks for the help skreech and judgen. much appreciated04:27
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matthew0507hi, is there a way to write to ntfs partition on kubuntu? i can read from but can not write to ntfs partition :(04:27
judgenhttp://www.icewalkers.com/download/tree/456/dls/04:27
judgenmatthew0507 yes install ntfs-3g and edit your fstab04:28
judgenmatthew0507 then it works04:28
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matthew0507thanks, and i guess ntfs-3g can be found in adept?04:28
judgen!ntfs-3g04:28
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:28
judgenyes04:28
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matthew0507cheers :)04:28
judgenmatthew0507 use the appropriate ling above =)04:29
BluesKajntfs-3g works quite well in my experience04:29
MamanNDaSreech: sory I have to leave IRC, hope all of us can chat other time04:29
judgenmine as well, but i dont have any ntfs partitions anymore04:29
DaSkreechMamanN: Sure04:29
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judgenI have three computers running here next to me, one 2xOpteron 275 (dualcore) with BeOS, a 1ghz intel mobile laptop with kubuntu and one 1ghz P3 with windows 2K04:30
[BTF] Chm0di gots a problem hehe everytime i reboot i have to reinstall nvidia driver any suggestions?04:30
[BTF] Chm0dthis is a fresh install04:31
judgen[BTF] Chm0d first change your nickname to somethink i can name complete, then ill ask you the foloowup question does the files disappear or just the configs gets lost?04:31
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DaSkreechjudgen: Haiku?04:32
judgenDaSkreech i run BeOS and Haiku (dualboot)04:32
DaSkreechHows haiku?04:32
chm0di dunno if any files get lost it installs just fine its just everytime i reboot i have to install it again04:32
judgenits neat DaSkreech04:32
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DaSkreechHi nikkiana :)04:32
soulriderjudgen: link for haiku ?04:33
BluesKajwhat's haiku besides japanese poetry04:33
duttahi guys can someone tell me what does a ATI driver do? I am a n00b :(04:33
judgenhaiku-os.org04:33
Daisuke_Idois there a way to tell konqueror to sort filenames with numbers in them as numbers rather than strings?04:33
chm0ddutta is the drivers for you video card04:33
judgendutta it makes your graphics card show pictures and moving images =P04:33
DaSkreechdutta: If it's for a video card it enables Fancy graphics04:33
Daisuke_Idodutta: in THEORY, it provides 3d acceleration for your video card, makes it work how it should.04:33
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duttawell, I have Radeon Xpress 200 VC04:34
duttawill it work for me?04:34
Daisuke_Idoin practice, ATI drivers tend to be less than friendly in linux (in my experience)04:34
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judgendutta afaik, no 3d accel in fglrx for ou then04:34
DaSkreechNightBird: Which version of Kubuntu?04:34
chm0dany suggestions on my reinstall of vid drivers judgen?04:34
judgenDaisuke_Ido i dont agree, all intel and XGI drivers are maybe even more friendly in linux than in windows04:35
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kleesis setting wallpapers through Firefox allowed in KDE???04:35
NightBirdDaSkreech: 6.10 was what I installed from04:35
judgenchm0d paste your xorg.conf to pastebin and ill have a look04:35
judgen!pastebin04:35
Daisuke_Idojudgen: just had a lot of issues with ati in linux (but this was with a radeon 9550, so...)04:35
chm0dk04:35
soulrideris beos based on linux ?04:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:35
Daisuke_Idosoulrider: nope04:35
judgensoulrider no04:35
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soulridersome dues just made it from scratch ?04:36
DaSkreechsoulrider: Nope Pure coding philospohical goodness04:36
Daisuke_Idoi'm loving my gf 7600 though04:36
judgensoulriderits based on BeOS and BeOS only, its posixcompatible though04:36
DaSkreechYup04:36
jarn_When I run something that opens a window from the command line, I get this error: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169".04:36
soulrideroh my04:36
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soulriderso, linux software wont work04:36
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: Just to let you know I read that as Girlfriend04:36
judgensoulrider not unless you port then.04:36
Daisuke_Idoheh04:36
soulriderok04:36
Daisuke_Idoyes, i upgraded to the girlfriend 7600 model04:36
judgensoulrider but there are pretty much software out there, ive been using BeOS/Haiku for many years and i have all i need. Except Flash9 ofcourse04:37
chm0djudgen: http://pastebin.ca/32115404:37
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flaccidbaddevice > jarn_04:37
kleesI'm not able to set wallpapers through Firefox...  is this ok?04:37
chm0dim assuming everything is going to be ok right now I have 3d acceleration04:37
kleesI don't get an option when right-clicking images04:37
jarn_flaccid: How do I fix it?04:38
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jarn_flaccid: Everything still works, it just comes up with an error. Then everything still works.04:38
DaSkreechjudgen: BeOS was sooo the killer OS 6 years ago04:38
DaSkreechI'm glad it's GPL now04:38
judgenDaSkreech well beos isnt04:38
Daisuke_IdoBeOS went gpl?04:38
Daisuke_Idohmm04:38
flacciddid you read the link ubotu sent you, jarn_?04:38
judgenBeOS is still closed source04:39
judgenHaiku is under BSD/MIT04:39
jarn_flaccid: I didn't get one.04:39
DaSkreechHaiku is close enough for me :)04:39
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judgenchm0d it looked good04:39
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jarn_flaccid: ubotu didn't send me a link.04:39
flaccid!baddevice04:39
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors04:39
flaccidthere you go04:39
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judgenchm0d paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin04:39
chm0dk04:40
jarn_flaccid: Thanks!04:40
flaccidnp04:40
flaccidits non-harmful, but you can revove it04:40
judgenDaisuke_Ido BeOS is now developed by Magnussoft in germany, and is working with haiku but they dont give the sources to haiku. So haiku is brand new04:40
flaccidremove04:40
DaSkreechSort of Like LInux and UNIX04:40
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Daisuke_Idointriguing04:41
jarn_flaccid: Is this only for you get an error with device 168? Because my error lists the device as 169.04:41
soulrideri think im gonna stay with kubuntu04:41
soulrideri lvoe kubuntu soooo much04:41
Daisuke_Idosoulrider: it's excellent04:41
judgensoulrider good choise04:41
soulrideryup04:41
chm0djudgen: http://pastebin.ca/32115604:41
soulriderlinux is a lot easier than i though04:41
soulrideri would like to try OS X one day04:42
DaSkreechNightBird: Can I get the URL?04:42
judgensoulrider i cant stand windows, all that searching for an app on the internet. Only to get infested by viruses and malware when i install04:42
judgenrepos are the best04:42
soulriderjudgen: yeah!04:42
NightBirdDaSkreech:04:42
NightBirdhttp://speeves.unt.edu/newindex/?p=21104:42
NightBirdwoops... hit enter too soon.. >_>04:42
codytI kinda prefer Gentoo's "emerge"04:42
soulridercodyt: doens tit just download the source ?04:43
codytYeah.04:43
judgenchm0d you have reinstalled the nvidia driver now, havent you? I wanted to see what it looks like after it stops working04:43
codytBut it actually works.04:43
soulrideryeah04:43
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flaccidjarn_: that is the line number. your xorg.conf is different.04:43
soulriderits cool that it downloads the source04:43
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soulriderbut maybe you dont have tie to compile04:43
jarn_flaccid: Ah, thanks.04:43
chm0dk lemme reboot that wont be a problem :)04:43
chm0dbrb04:43
codytAdept lists packages, but  won't install a portion of them.04:43
musyawhat can i use to unpack .rar files in kubuntu04:43
judgencodyt emerge is an repo too04:43
codytI know.04:44
codytI was saying I prefer it to Adept / apt04:44
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codyt'cause I've never had any issues with it.04:44
codytthe last 3 or 4 packages I've tried to get with Adept wouldn't install.04:44
codytBecause of dependencies that aren't there.04:45
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judgenmusya do a "sudo apt-get install ark unrar unace bzip2 unlha"04:45
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musyajudgen: unrar has no installation candidate.04:46
codytand, it  doesn't track the things that I do install by source, so even if I find the dependencies elsewhere, it still won't install04:46
codytand I have to do it all by hand anyways.04:46
DaSkreechcodyt: Which apps?04:46
judgenmusya you havent added the universe and multiverse then04:46
codytThe one I remember was the dvd ripper, but there were a couple of others that did the same04:46
codytjudgen, I did04:46
codyt*but*04:46
codytthat failed too.04:46
codytwhen I apt-get update, it has gzip errors.04:47
judgencodyt i was saying to musya04:47
BluesKajjugden , what kind of files sytem does one partition for to mount haiku ?04:47
codytoh04:47
codytsry.04:47
codytgzip errors specifically for the universe and multiverse.04:47
judgenBlueDevil to boot it you need obfs or bfs but you can mount anything04:47
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judgenBlueDevil btw haiku is only 40mb or so and uses extremly little ram. So you wont need a large partition04:48
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chm0di know my problem now judgen04:48
judgenand boots on my rin in 3sec04:48
judgennice04:48
chm0dnvidia kernel is 7184 and drivers are 974604:48
kleesto those that don't know the official Flash 9 for Linux is out04:49
judgeni know04:49
chm0dnow question is how do i get nvidia kernel 974604:49
kleeshttp://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/04:49
DaSkreechcodyt: That would probably explain it04:49
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DaSkreechjudgen: I think you mean BluesKaj04:49
judgenchm0d get the correct version then =)04:49
judgenDaSkreech yeah, damn namecompletion =P04:50
judgenhaha04:50
judgeni always only type the first two letters then <tab>04:50
chm0dguess ill look for04:50
chm0dit04:50
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DaSkreechcodyt: Might want to fix that04:51
codytYeah.04:51
codytis there a psx emulator listed in your apt-cache?04:51
NightBird....04:51
NightBirdmy laptop doesn't like to hybernate either..04:51
DaSkreech!hibernate04:52
ubotuhibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB04:52
chm0djudgen quick question ive found the nvidia kernel i need but its i386 and my pc is 686 is that ok?04:52
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danielcheshi04:53
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DaSkreechHello04:53
danielchesi need some help with adept04:54
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DaSkreechSpeak :)04:54
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NightBirdDaSkreech: does hibernate not come installed by default?04:54
danielchesit tells me that another process is using the packaging system04:54
DaSkreechI dunno :)04:54
DaSkreechdanielches: do you have apt-get or aptitude working?04:54
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danielchesnot sure?04:55
danielchesadept used to work04:55
DaSkreechdanielches: were you installing something from the command line?04:55
danielchesno04:55
danielcheshowever04:55
DaSkreechDid you close it before it was finished with something?04:55
mtvi am having problems saving in cups web interface.  It prompts me for a password but will not accept the admin password or user password04:55
DaSkreech or did it crash?04:55
danielchesyeah04:55
danielchesi closed it when it was installing java04:56
DaSkreech!adept crash fix | danielches. This should help04:56
ubotudanielches. This should help: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:56
danielchesthx04:56
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danielchesso, now it should run fine?04:56
DaSkreechtell me if it doesn't04:57
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DaSkreechHi nalioth04:57
danielches:)04:58
danielchesit works :)04:58
danielchesthanks a heap04:58
DaSkreechSure :)04:58
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mtvis there a problem using http://localhost:631 for kubuntu?04:59
NightBirdhm... invalid dep_range_val when trying to start up ALSA04:59
[BTF] Chm0dwell i installed the 9746 driver but 7184 still remains???04:59
judgenim gonna get a pizza brb04:59
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NightBirdo_O05:00
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NightBirdapparently surround was muted..05:00
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NightBirdand... well... kaffeine is playing music now..05:01
DaSkreechyay :)05:01
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DaSkreechNightBird: reboot one more time to check05:01
NightBirdno kidding05:01
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NightBirdalso, question: how do I disable the jumping between different screens when the mouse moves against the edges of the screen?05:02
codytHave multiple monitors, or do you mean virtual desktops?05:03
NightBirder.. virtual desktops05:03
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eddy__hello everybody hear05:03
NightBirdhi eddy__05:04
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codythm.05:06
codytnow I can't find it..05:06
DaSkreechcodyt: Hmm?05:06
DaSkreechNightBird: What do you mean?05:06
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codythe's looking for the option to disable switching of desktops when the mouse cursor touches the edges of the screen.05:07
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Dr_willisNightBird,  you using the normal kde? or beryl? i cant recall ever seeing that feature in kde.05:07
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NightBirdkde...05:07
Dr_williscodyt,  i cant find it either.. cant rember ever seeing it.05:07
codytI know I have.05:07
codyt'cause I tried it, and it annoyed me.05:07
codytso I turned it off.05:07
Dr_willisMultiple Dekstop - control panel has a check box for the 'wheel' to change desktops.05:08
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codytthat's different.05:08
codytthat annoys me too, though.05:08
Dr_willisI perfer it. :)05:08
Dr_willisactually i perfer it to change desktops while i am dragging a window also05:09
Dr_willisbut cant recall seeing that under KDE either.05:09
_morphiusSo, i'm trying to set up my computer as a router, I have dhcp3-server installed and am serving IPs, I donloaded IP tables and finally I am using firehol to try to set up a firewall and share internet between multiple computers and interfaces (one of the interfaces services a quasi-dmz). I have it set to the most basic configuration, using the example script, but I can't seem to get any sort of traffic through. Is there something I05:09
_morphiusmay have missed?05:09
Dr_willisFound it...05:09
Dr_willisits under Window Behiavor05:09
Dr_willis'advanced tab'05:09
Dr_willis'active desktop borders'05:10
codytyeah.05:10
NightBirdok05:10
NightBirdthanks05:10
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Dr_willisit pays to explore Every little tab and button under the settings stuff. :)05:10
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codytmesses with the ability to raise my panel when I move my mouse to the bottom left corner.05:11
Hirvinen_morphius: I have found Firestarter to be an excellent way to setup a simple firewall and NAT.05:12
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codytYeah.05:12
codytI just didn't recognize it when I did see it.05:13
_morphiusTried it. Used it for a while actually. Won't handle multiple interfaces05:13
Hirvinen_morphius: It's GUI oriented and therefore has GUI library dependencies, but can be used by editing it's configuration files.05:13
Hirvinen_morphius: More than two interfaces?05:13
_morphius305:13
DaSkreechcodyt: Why does the apt-get update not work05:13
_morphiusOne WAN, one LAN one WLAN05:13
_morphiusI'll look into the config for firestarter. Maybe it's more robust than the gui...05:14
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HirvinenIt doesn't seem that way.05:14
codytDaSkreech, it has a gzip error with universe and multiverse05:15
DaSkreechcodyt: delete the gzips and reupdate05:15
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eddy__como instalo el driver de video VIA Unichrome IGP PRO05:15
eddy__en  kubuntu 6.0605:16
Hirvinen_morphius: Maybe you should just get your hands dirty with guidance from http://lartc.org/05:16
FreddyM!es | eddy__05:16
ubotueddy__: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:16
Hirvinen!es eddy__05:16
ubotues: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB05:16
DaSkreech!es | eddy__05:16
HirvinenHaha.05:16
eddy__ok muchas gracias05:16
FreddyM!es05:16
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:16
FreddyMwt heck05:16
DaSkreech!botslap05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
FreddyM!botsnack05:17
ubotuYum!05:17
genii!botsnack05:17
genii:)05:17
DaSkreechDon't give it a snack!!05:17
geniiDaSkreech Why, you think we are encouraging ubotu?05:17
DaSkreechYeah it never does stuff I tell it to05:17
DaSkreechIf you can snack it you should be able to slap it as well05:18
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geniiPerhaps !botsnooze or so :)05:18
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elyonCould someone please tell me where to find the Konversation script directory?05:19
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geniiPerhaps somewhere like /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts05:20
geniior alternately ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts05:20
elyongenii: Thank you.05:21
geniiwhere ~ = home directory05:21
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geniiHas anyone know about getting X10 remote driver for ATI cards going? Seems not to see it on my 6.10 box05:23
danielchesi am having trouble with java upgrade, in adept05:24
danielchesits stuck on 0% install05:24
danielchesand whow details shows a license agreement05:24
danielcheswhich needs to be ok'ed, but how do i?05:24
DaSkreechdanielches: Hmm probably should have mentioned that05:25
DaSkreechKill adept and do the adept crash fix again05:25
DaSkreechin the command line type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre05:26
geniiIs adept crashing on java install? this is the third or fourth time I've heard of this particular prob05:27
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genii!x10mms05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x10mms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
DaSkreechIt doesn't crash05:28
DaSkreech It needs some package to accept the license agreement05:28
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geniiOh, some pre-requisite or so05:29
DaSkreechOtherwise you can't accept it so you are stuck05:29
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codytgzip: stdin: not in gzip format05:30
codytErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources05:30
codyt  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)05:30
munky08hello chan05:31
codytsame with universe.05:31
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geniilikely a bz2 archive or so05:31
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Murchadhgenii, run the install from a shell. kdesu adept and then you can accept the licence in this window!05:32
munky08k05:33
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jason10hello there05:33
coreymon77wow, that was an odd one05:33
DaSkreechHow can it be?05:33
coreymon77i turn on my computer yesterday05:34
coreymon77and all my konversation settings have been erased!05:34
coreymon77completely out of the blue!05:34
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danielchesso05:35
danielchesi run05:35
danielches"sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a shell?05:36
danielchesand i should be able to accept the licence thing?05:36
geniiMurchadh No worries, I have actually installed the CVS version of JRE from source. Just pondering on the oddities of Adept ubsystem05:36
flaccidwhats the problem, danielches?05:37
danielchesi had adept stuffing up, with java install05:37
DaSkreechdanielches: yes05:37
danielchesupgrade thing05:37
flaccidit probably can't handle the interact curses for the licence agreement05:37
danielchesyes, as in do that in console?05:37
flaccidyes05:38
flaccidsorry to intervine :)05:38
manchickenIf you're installing java, use it in command-line.05:38
flaccidi'm just bored at work05:38
danielchesnp05:38
manchickenAdept has a known issue with that particular package.05:38
danielches???05:38
danielchesgot an error05:38
manchickenWhat error?05:38
danielches"05:39
danielchesErrors were encountered while processing:05:39
danielches /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb05:39
danielches /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb05:39
danielchesE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:39
danielches"05:39
danielchesdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):05:39
danielches subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 105:39
danielches***05:39
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danielchestry again?05:39
danielches?05:40
DaSkreechsure05:41
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danielchesi get same error again05:43
soulriderwhat you using to install it?05:43
soulriderapt-get or adept ?05:43
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soulridernevermind, just scrolled up05:43
Kr4t05Why won't Amarok play mp3s, regardless of the fact that I have libxine-extracodecs installed? It worked for about 5 months and then quit.05:45
soulriderKr4t05: reinstall ?05:45
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Kr4t05soulrider: Repeatedly05:46
Kr4t05--purge, too05:46
soulriderpurge it and amarok05:46
soulriderand install?05:46
Murchadhdanielches, Could try deleting /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb, and running sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre again!05:46
soulrideruse aptitude, not apt-get05:46
Kr4t05soulrider: Yes.05:46
soulridereww, Kr4t05, no idea then05:46
Tm_Tsoulrider: Why not apt-get?05:47
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soulrideraptitude handles better some stuff05:47
soulriderlike dependencies05:47
Tm_Tsoulrider: Sure, you can say "You might like to try aptitude" but noo there05:47
Tm_T's no way you command others to give up apt-get.05:48
soulriderhuh ?05:48
soulriderim not commanding anyone anything05:48
soulriderim just saying05:48
soulriderthat sometimes aptitude works better05:48
Tm_Tsoulrider: Heh, you say that now, first you said directly "use aptitude, not apt-get"05:49
soulrideryeah... whatever05:49
Tm_TBut carry on, ignore me, I'm just an old fart. ;)05:49
geniiYes, adept seems to choke on some packages that give no issue to aptitude or cli apt-get  or so on05:49
Tm_Tsoulrider: Just overreacting, sorry.05:50
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soulrider!es05:50
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:50
soulrider!botsnack05:51
ubotuYum!05:51
jason10would somebody mind answering a question about upgrading?05:51
Tm_TNo if you don't ask the question. ;)05:51
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Tm_Tjason10: So, problem is?05:53
jason10well05:53
jason10i have 20 gigs on my laptop for ubuntu05:53
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jason10and i seem to have filled the thing05:54
jason10but i really dont have much on here by way of my own media etc05:54
jason10and ive gotten rid of a lot of the programs ive installed..05:54
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Tm_Tjason10: Hmm, does "sudo apt-get clean" help at all?05:54
jason10im wondering if i have a lot of backup stuff every time my os upgrades?05:54
jason10apt-get clean?05:55
jason10whats that do?05:55
Tm_Tjason10: You have all packages you installed in cache, apt-get clean does wipe that cache away entirely, autoclean takes only old versions of packages etc etc.05:55
jason10right on05:55
Tm_TThat can be easily gigs.05:56
jason10gave me 200 megs05:56
jason10good start05:56
Tm_T:)05:56
jason10i use package manager05:56
jason10synaptic05:56
jason10apt-get makes me nervous05:57
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Tm_THeh, both works so use the one you find familiar with.05:57
jason10right on05:57
jason10another thing..05:57
jason10when ubuntu updates05:58
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jason10sometimes my bootscreen adds new versions05:58
lamelma23holak      tal05:58
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intelikeyany clue what ' --> pppd: "[05[08] 05] [08] [05] [08] "  '  might mean ?05:58
jason10now im up to like 5 different ubuntus on my bootloader screen05:58
Tm_Tjason10: While you're at it, check apt-get and aptitude manuals a bit, you might find some useful features you might need in time to time.05:58
soulriderjason10: that means you have several kernels05:59
Tm_Tjason10: Hmm, that means you have new kernels, heh, you can remove some of them.05:59
Tm_Tjason10: That will free up a lot too.05:59
soulriderits allways a good idea to keep an older kernel that you know works, but you can uninstall older kernels too05:59
jason10yea.  so far ive stuck with synaptic because i dont know how to keep track of what all is installed / where everything installed to05:59
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soulriderjason10: thast what you should do05:59
jason10there u go.  how do i find / remove old kernels?05:59
intelikey<Tm_T> jason10: Hmm, that means you have new kernels, heh, you can remove some of them.  <<<  hehhe you can remove all of them...   >:] 06:00
soulrideruse synaptic/adept for GUI or apt-get/aptitude/dpkg for CLI06:00
soulriderjason10: open adept or synaptic06:00
Tm_Tjason10: Take search in synaptic with "installed packages" selection and then take others than you currently use.06:00
jason10for cli?06:00
Tm_Tintelikey: Really?06:00
soulriderand look for the kernels you want to remove06:00
Tm_Tjason10: commandline06:00
soulriderjason10: CLI = command line06:00
intelikeyTm_T one could if one chose too06:00
Tm_Tintelikey: Thanks! ;)06:01
Tm_TBreakfast etc. ->06:01
jason10ah06:01
jason10right on06:01
intelikeyTm_T you do know that you need something to boot tho...06:01
jason10linux-image?06:01
soulriderjason10: what versions do you see?06:02
intelikey!linux-image06:02
soulrider2.6..... ?06:02
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
jason10linux-38606:02
jason10linux-headers ...06:02
soulriderjason10: just remove hte old ones06:02
jason102.6.5-2306:02
jason102.6.5-23-38606:02
intelikey!linux-image-38606:02
jason102.6.5-25-38606:03
jason102.6.5-2506:03
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB06:03
jason102.6.5-2506:03
jason102.6.5-2606:03
soulrideroh my06:03
soulriderlots of kernels lol06:03
jason102.6.5-2706:03
soulriderjust remove the old ones and keep the latest and thats it06:03
jason10er06:03
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jason102.6.15.2506:03
jason10and 2606:03
soulriderjason10: you use dapper right ?06:04
soulrideri dont think edgy got a single kernel upgrade =/06:04
jason10yea06:04
jason10still on dapper06:04
jason10only have 300 megabytes free06:04
soulrideroh06:04
jason10havent tried upgrading yet06:04
soulriderhave you cleared your cache ?06:04
manchickenEdgy is on 2.6.1706:05
jason10apt-get clean ?06:05
soulrideryes06:05
soulridersudo aptitude clean06:05
jason10yea06:05
soulridertry it, maybe youll free up some space06:05
soulriderim going to bed06:05
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soulridersee ya everyon06:05
jason10could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open06:06
soulrideroh06:06
intelikeyremoving 3 kernels will free about 200m06:06
jason10(11 resource temp unavail)06:06
soulriderthast because synaptic is open06:06
jason10good point06:06
soulrideronce youre sone uninstalling run the command06:06
soulriderand it will clean06:06
soulridersee ya later guys!06:06
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jason10gnight06:07
linux_galorejason10: means an install broke, you basically have to flush the process06:07
jason10i closed synaptic and it worked06:07
jason10doesnt look like it freed up much space tho  = /06:07
jason10but with this kernal thing..06:08
intelikeyany clue what ' --> pppd: "[05[08] 05] [08] [05] [08] "  '  might mean ?surely that's not ipv6 krap is it ?06:08
jason10i need to keep the most recent one?06:08
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linux_galorejason10: aah your using two package processes, yeah you cant run apt with the package manager running06:08
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dopewhat is lpadmi06:09
dopelpadmin06:09
linux_galore!lpadmin06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lpadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
danielcheshi06:09
danielchescould i get some help with my java problem?06:10
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intelikeyoh excuse me three kernels binarry only will only free about 70-90 meg06:10
jason10yea06:11
intelikeylp == the parallel port     admin == i think you know that one.06:11
jason10is strange06:11
jason10brb06:11
danielchesi am getting a new error with java:06:11
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danielchesdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sun-java5-plugin:06:11
linux_galorewtf lapdmin: lpadmin  configures  printer  and class queues provided by CUPS. It can        also be used to set the server default printer or class.06:11
danielches sun-java5-plugin depends on sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1); however:06:11
danielches  Package sun-java5-bin is not installed.06:11
danielchesdpkg: error processing sun-java5-plugin (--configure):06:11
danielches dependency problems - leaving unconfigured06:11
danielchesErrors were encountered while processing:06:11
danielches sun-java5-plugin06:11
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linux_galoredope: just use kprinter, allot simpler06:13
dopeok kewl, what's the command to get swiftfox to run06:13
intelikey!sun-java5-bin06:13
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dopei want to make it my default browser06:14
ubotusun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB06:14
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linux_galoredope: there is no default browser in Linux06:14
dopeNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO06:14
lupine_85there is, to some extent06:14
purpleposeidonhow can I burn an iso under linux? k3b didn't work....06:14
lupine_85dpkg -L swiftfox will give a list of all the files in that package06:14
lupine_85purpleposeidon: define didn't work06:15
danielchesubotu, is that for me?06:15
linux_galoredope: you can set the "file associations" in konqueror to use the browser06:15
dopeeh, it's fine i guess06:15
intelikeythere is a default browser in *buntu   but not LINUX06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is that for me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
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purpleposeidonlupine_85: it got stuck on the second step06:15
linux_galoredope: also many applications allow you to set the default browser06:15
lupine_85verify?06:15
purpleposeidonlupine_85: and now k3b won't open again06:16
intelikey!yes06:16
linux_galoreintelikey: yeah but there isnt a global default meta tool06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
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purpleposeidon!iso06:17
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn06:17
crazy_busI really want to install this game but I'm not sure how to do it.  Does anyone know how? http://wargus.sourceforge.net/06:18
purpleposeidon!burn06:18
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto06:18
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geniiI'm still partial to xcdroast06:18
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intelikeygenii ^506:19
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linux_galorecrazy_bus: download the tar.gz  file then type  sudo apt-get install  kompile    then  type kompile  path/to/filename.tar.gz06:20
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danielchesso, could i get some help?06:22
linux_galoredanielches: if you dont ask we wont answer06:22
NightBirdfinally... alsa is back up and working...06:23
danielchesi need help installing/upgrading java06:23
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intelikeygenii i'm not a java imbiber  but thanks for the offer06:23
genii:)06:23
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linux_galoredanielches: duh!, you can install the plugin without the java stuff first06:23
danielchesadept has a problem with the licence agreement, so i need to do it with konsole06:24
danielches?06:24
linux_galoredanielches: click on "details" button, you will see a question about the license06:24
danielchesin adept?06:25
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danielchesi tried before06:25
linux_galoredanielches: it wont install unless you "confirm" the license06:25
porks_any1 from ukraine?06:25
danielcheshow to i say ok to the licence?06:25
linux_galoredanielches: click on the details button in adept when you install the package or install via the command line06:25
purpleposeidondanielches: the terminal inside of adept doesn't take input?06:25
linux_galorepurpleposeidon: does for me06:26
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purpleposeidonwell, "sudo apt-get install java_or_whatever_your_package_name_is" would work, I guess06:27
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crazy_busI can't install kompile, becuase it needs kdesu06:27
geniiWhoever packages the java needs to simplify it or something06:27
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linux_galoredanielches: ao open adept, click on the sunjava package, mark it for install then "when the package is installing"  click on the bottom left "details button, it will show a license that needs to be approved06:28
intelikeygenii don't.  it'll get you tickeled and you'll hemoridge from laughing so hard.06:28
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shinigamihow to downgrade from edgy to dapper?06:29
geniicrazy_bus More likely desu is installed but you need to install kompile with kdesu apt-getinstall kompile   or similar06:29
geniidesu=kdesu06:29
linux_galoregenii: been done, its called kubextra  its a graphical no brainer optional packages installer06:29
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linux_galoreshinigami: you dont06:29
linux_galoregenii: only works with dapper though06:30
geniibleh06:30
shinigamihaha..06:30
shinigaminvmind06:30
crazy_busgenii, I did it that way but it still couldn't find kdesu06:31
geniicrazy_bus Well, try from a konsole then:   sudo apt-get install kdesu06:31
intelikeyshinigami clean install is about the best easiest safest onlyst way.06:31
linux_galorecrazy_bus: run  sudo  kompile  path/to/package.tar.gz06:31
crazy_bushere is the installation instructions.  It uses build.sh06:32
crazy_bushttp://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/wargus/trunk/wargus/README06:32
geniilinux_galore he seems to need kdesu as some pre-req apparently efore kompile will install06:32
linux_galorecrazy_bus: compile does all that06:32
linux_galoregenii: I've tried it with sudo, strange kompile in mandriva just opens straight up and only asks for the root password when it comes to installing the binaries06:33
geniiMaybe he is using gnome??06:33
geniiI thought kdesu was standard install stuff06:34
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intelikeyit is for kde/kubuntu06:34
unix_infidelis it part of kdebase?06:34
linux_galoregenii: could be, I think its because kubuntu is using a deprecated version of kompile, I noticed also you have to run kompile + filepath  in Kubuntu but not in Mandriva06:34
intelikeyno06:34
geniiintelikey Hence if he was using gnome as default, explains lack of kdesu06:34
unix_infidelwb Hobbsee_06:35
intelikeygenii not really if either kde or kubuntu-desktop was installed kdesu should be there.06:35
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Hobbseety06:36
intelikey!kdesu06:36
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:36
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Hobbseewhat's the rpoblem?  kompile is out of date?06:36
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geniiYeunix_infidel I always figured it was part of kde-bas...I never had to install kdesu separately before06:36
geniidamn typos06:36
menahi friends is there aprogram wich allow me to listen to radio all over the world like realplayer06:37
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crazy_busI'll just install with build.sh06:37
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linux_galorethe idea behind kompile is it should just start up (no root password needed) then you can select a tarbal to be installed, it will then warn you that you need to "enter a root password" to complete the install then you click on ok and off it goes, when it reaches the "make install" stage it asks for the root password06:38
geniicrazy_bus you could just resort o command-line compile.So long as build-essential is there you normally just do something like ./configure  then make   or make install06:38
crazy_busThis game has to get files of a data cd.  So it's probably best I use build.sh06:38
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linux_galorefor some goofy reason the kompile package in Kubuntu doesnt work properly06:39
Hobbseelinux_galore: clearly it's been written to be used as root06:39
linux_galoreit will compile etc and install the binaries but it has to be run under sudo06:39
intelikeytar -xf filename.tar.gz ;cd filename ;./configure ;make ;sudo make install06:40
geniiintelikey :)06:40
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linux_galoreHobbsee: no, you dont need the root password to run it on my Mandriva machine, in fact it will happily stop before the "make install" stage if you want it to06:40
intelikeycan substitute && in place of ;   and if it errors out it will stop executing at the part that errored.06:40
Hobbseelinux_galore: hrm06:41
menai went to the page from ubuntu about permision and i still cant do the commands right can some one hepl me ...to change the permisions for my partitions06:41
menahelp*06:41
intelikeytar -xf packagename.tar.gz &&cd packagename &&./configure &&make &&sudo make install06:42
linux_galoreI have a feeling its to do with the fact that on Kubuntu the system folder are hidden but not on Mandriva06:42
linux_galoreHobbsee: I have a feeling its to do with the fact that on Kubuntu the system folder are hidden but not on Mandriva06:42
jagerhow come i don't have projectm visualizations in amarok, but i do in xmms?06:42
Hobbseelinux_galore: didnt that get reverted?06:42
linux_galoreHobbsee: only in feisty06:43
intelikeylinux_galore not likely.   they are not hidden to the console. only to konqueror06:43
geniiWill feisty release be an LTS version?06:43
Hobbseelinux_galore: there was an application to backport that fix to edgy, too...06:43
intelikeygenii no06:43
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Hobbseegenii: nope06:43
jagerthere are some visualizations - infinite is pretty cool - but no projectm06:44
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kai_wasup people06:44
linux_galoreintelikey: I dont know, all I know is kompile runs fine on Mandriva with 1 a file path in the command line 2. sudo/kdesu06:44
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linux_galores/with/without/06:44
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intelikeylinux_galore installing b-e now will test....06:45
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linux_galoreintelikey: it should only ask for the root password when it comes to installing the binaries but not with kubuntu for some weird reason06:46
linux_galoreintelikey: just type  kompile  at the command line in kubuntu and it starts complaining straight away, not in fedora/mandriva/opensuse06:47
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jason10hello again  :)06:47
jason10i found my problem and i have another noob question06:48
linux_galoreintelikey: it should "just run" and open a dialog that allows you to select either to setup the thing or to select a standard install that leads to a file dialog selector06:48
jason10how do i delete things in kde ubuntu?06:49
linux_galorejason10: depends what you want to delete06:49
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jason10anything06:49
jason10turns out, when ive been deleting stuff (movies, music etc)06:49
linux_galorejason10: same as windows06:49
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jason10its just been going to various /.trash folders06:50
jason10and when i delete from one, it pops up in another one somewhere?06:50
linux_galorejason10: right click move to trash  or hit the delete button06:50
intelikeylinux_galore runs but the fonts and the window size don't jive, part of the text is cut off. also it asks for a root passwd when needed.06:50
jason10but its not actaully removing it and giving me space back06:50
menai went to the page from ubuntu about permision and i still cant do the commands right can some one hepl me ...to change the permisions for my partitions06:50
linux_galorejason10: empty the trash06:50
makuseruwhen i do "sudo apt-get --purge remove" on a program and then do " program --version" it still shows up, how can i stop that?06:51
intelikeythe window is not resizable so the font's problem is enough to say "don't recommend this app until it's fixed"06:51
jason10i have home /.Trash and also .local/share/Trash..06:51
linux_galoremakuseru: ??sudo apt-get --purge remove  doesnt remove anything06:51
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makuserulinux_galore: i dont think it did if i can do --version and it still gives me a version for it06:52
intelikeymakuseru  you should see the text telling if it removed it or not.06:53
makuseruit said it, but i dont understand why it still gives me a version if i removed it06:53
linux_galoremakuseru:   apt-get remove appname   "removes" the application06:53
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intelikeyshow me the version line ?06:54
jason10home/jason10/.local/share/Trash/files/  i delete from there and it just moves itself right to the same place06:54
jason10kinda funny06:54
jason10how do i make it go away from real?06:54
makuserumax@max:~$ beryl --version06:54
makuseruberyl-core 0.1.5-svn06:54
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intelikeylinux_galore the --purge will remove the configs too.06:54
linux_galorejason10: dont you have a trash icon on the desktop ?06:54
jason10no06:55
linux_galoreintelikey: yeah but has nothing to do with appname --version06:55
jason10took me forever to figure out where it was...  i dont have a trash icon anywhere06:55
intelikeymakuseru  sudo apt-get --purge remove beryl-core  && beryl --version06:55
kiHi guys,  I am a fairly experienced user who doesn't use ubuntu and I have a friend who is knowledgible at  computers in general but VERY new to kubuntu and linux. He is having a bit of trouble installing his netgear wg311v3. So far, I've sent him the v1.1 windows driver files which I extracted from an .exe with cabextract and he is going to try ndiswrapper. Is this the right thing to do?06:55
jason10not on desktop or panel06:55
linux_galorejason10: open konqueror and type trash:/06:56
kiHe is currently on windows as he does not have internet on linux and I know very little about windows, also.06:56
jason10ok.  thats some different stuff06:56
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jason10ooo06:57
linux_galorejason10: to create a trash icon  right click on the desktop Create->Link to URL   call the URL  Trash and the path is trash:/06:57
jason10that deleted for real06:57
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phobiacWhen I install a program with wine, it doesn't show up in the wine folder on Kmenu. How can I update it?06:57
kimy friend is here, by the way. he is McGoogler.06:57
McGoogleruhh..hello06:58
phobiacHello06:58
McGooglerso as ki was saying I've been having a bit of difficulty with my netgear wg311v306:58
jageris anyone using amarok 1.4.4 with projectm?06:58
intelikeyki  i would sujest first checking to see if linux supports that device,  if so modprobe the dirver   else ndiswrapper may be the answer  but i can't help with that.06:59
shinigamihi guys how do i list the environment variables?06:59
phobiacI'm using 1.4.4, no idea if I have projectm.06:59
chavoshinigami, env06:59
jason10thanks linux07:00
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jason10is it easy to add a trashcan to my desktop / panel?07:00
linux_galorejason10: now to empty the trash its the same as on windows, right click Empty Trash07:00
jason10or should i go look that up myself07:00
intelikey!ndiswrapper07:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:00
jason10yeah, it lets me delete for real once i put stuff there07:00
linux_galorejason10: to create a trash icon  right click on the desktop Create->Link to URL   call the URL  Trash and the path is trash:/07:00
shinigamiok how do i change one of the variable ?07:00
intelikey!wifi | McGoogler07:01
ubotuMcGoogler: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:01
shinigamieg: i wanna change the OLDPWD=/video0 to OLDPWD=/video107:01
shinigamihow to change in env?07:01
kithere you go, mcgoogler :)07:01
jagerphobiac:  do you use any of the visualizations?07:02
intelikeyshinigami export OLDPWD=/video107:02
phobiacjager: No07:02
kihey does anyone know how to send files in the irc that is built into opera?07:02
shinigamiOHH07:02
jagerrats07:02
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intelikeyki try /dcc send username filepath_and_name07:03
kithanks07:03
intelikeyki i don't use opera so if that don't work....  ;/07:03
kiargh.07:04
linux_galoreintelikey: you know opera is turning into crap when they make the same stupid mistakes as with Mozilla before they split Firefox off07:04
kiopera owns, what are you talking about?07:05
jason10your a genius.  thanks07:05
kifaster rendering, built in mail and irc07:05
kimuch better than crappy firefox.07:05
kiI even like konqueror better than firefox.07:06
kieven lynx xD07:06
intelikeyas if "built in"  was a good thing... lo.07:06
jason10just went from 300 mb free to 8gigs07:06
kibuilt in is...it is convenient.07:06
linux_galoreki: irc is a complex thing that should never be intergrated into a browser, its like integrating a toilet in a 4 door car because a human drives it, on the surface it seems good but in reality its stupid07:06
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intelikeyki  you say tomato i say tomahtoe  you say potat...07:07
kiactually,I say tomahtoe too.07:07
kiI'm not american xD07:07
linux_galoreki: also Mozilla did the exact same thing just before "everyone stopped using it", that lead to "firefox"07:08
kiwell I find it useful. I mean most people browse the web, check their email and chat around the same time.07:08
kiso they don't have toswitch.07:08
kiplus opera has bittorrent support and can pause downloads.07:08
intelikeywell actually, if you want to be technical i don't say tomahtoe.    i say t'maters  but that's not the point.07:08
linux_galoreki I do too, but I dont want my browser and email and irc to be all in one app that can crash and wipe them all out at the same time07:09
phobiacIf you ask me having so much running under one process sounds risky. How much CPU does Opera use?07:09
phobiacKeep in mind I've never tried it out.07:09
linux_galoreki: yeah. one problem, many torrent clients wont talk to opera because it wont abide the security flags on IP's07:10
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kicrash? never! not on bsd!07:10
linux_galoreki: Opera reminds me of emacs, ie the Operating system looking for a kernel07:10
intelikeybut i browse in one tty irc in another and as for email  fetchmail gets it here the rest is a "take your pick" as to how you view it.07:11
kiah, well complain about operas features and be happy with mozillas lack of features!07:11
kilol I feel the same about emacs :P:P07:11
linux_galoreki: also its not very "unix like" having everything wrapped up in a closed source "monolithic" app07:11
kispe + freeride is all I need :)07:11
menafreinds i need ito change my partitions permisions ...07:11
kiwell emacs is unix, isn't it?07:12
intelikeyyes but we were talking tomatos not patatos07:12
menai saw the support page but i still cant add permisions to me07:12
phobiacmena: Is a partition mounting under root that you want mounted by your user?07:12
linux_galoreki: yeah but emacs isnt closed source or monolithic its modular07:12
intelikeymena chmod07:12
menayes07:12
intelikey!ntfs | mena07:12
ubotumena: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:12
phobiacmena: You need to edit your fstab, I haven't done this in a little bit so let me look at mine real quick.07:13
kiwho cares? I have the choice of: slow, featureless or feature rich and fast.07:13
kiI choose the latter.07:13
kilong live opera07:13
menaphobiac:okay07:13
menaintelikey: they are ext3 but i dont have permisions i dont know why07:13
linux_galoreki: the concept with Unix and application is "applications" should be modular like lego not great big whopping single processes that can turn your machine into sludge07:14
linux_galorean*07:14
intelikeyki is glad he got that off his chest....07:14
makuseruwhere can i get a .deb for 0.2.0 beta?07:14
menaintelikey: i had refromate them07:14
makuseruor a .rpm07:14
makuseruoops, wrong room07:14
phobiacmena: Is the partition ntfs?07:14
phobiacIf so take a look at what intelikey had the bot bring up07:14
intelikeymena i told you  chmod07:14
menaintelikey: the problem i cant use it07:14
kiwhy are you running kubuntu if you want unix like so much anyway? don't talk to me about unix like. I run bsd half of the time.07:14
menaphobiac: no ext307:14
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linux_galoreki Opera still has a shrinking market07:14
intelikeymena sudo07:15
esc_apehello07:15
kiKDE IS BLOODY MONOLITHIC! Look how huge it is, with its 101 apps.07:15
intelikeymena why can't you use it ?07:15
menaintelikey: i tryied without any reasons every time its set the permision to just root07:15
ki(not that I don't  like kde, but xfce IS better ;))07:15
phobiacmena: Hmm I think it's uid=youruserid07:15
esc_ape<~ just finished a kde-core install07:15
esc_apevery nice07:15
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phobiacLet me consult with google real quick07:15
|dan|hello07:15
linux_galoreki no kde isnt monolithic its modular, KDE describes the whole "workspace" not the pieces that can be changes swapped deleted at any time07:15
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menaphobiac: okay07:16
intelikeyphobiac that's not it.07:16
linux_galorechanged*07:16
intelikeyphobiac he said ext fs07:16
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intelikeymena chmod the thing07:16
|dan|what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?07:16
intelikeymena where is it mounted ?07:16
esc_apekubuntu is kde. ubuntu is gnome.07:16
linux_galoreki: remove the IRC component from opera, you cant can you, thats "monolithic"07:16
menaintelikey: ?? on my hard disk07:16
kiyou have a point. Modular does have advantages. if I want to check my mail I go on thunderbird. But for the sake of convenience, opera is there when I'm already surfingthe web.07:17
phobiacintelikey: He needs a partion to mount under his user when his computer starts, wouldn't chmod be a temporary solution?07:17
intelikeymena where is it mounted ?07:17
esc_apeki : have you tried a kde-core install yet?07:17
linux_galoreki: now remove konversation from the kde desktop, you can, ooh thats because kde is "modular"07:17
kioh you can actually, you just can't have ONLY irc and not the web browser.07:17
intelikeyphobiac no07:17
intelikeyphobiac you don't do that with ext07:17
kilook you are right, I know. I'm just saying opera is convenient.07:17
menaintelikey: you mean my partitions .....you mena you wantto know the pertitions07:18
|dan|esc_ape: is that the only difference?07:18
intelikeyphobiac he needs to chmod it07:18
menaintelikey: /dev/hda607:18
kiI know thunderbird and kmail are better mail checkers, but opera mail is quicker if I'm already onit.07:18
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intelikeymena yes where is it mounted ?07:18
kiand opera is still a faster browser!07:18
linux_galoreki: I know opera as browser if ine but adding the IRC stuff to me isnt a good idea because history has shown it just leads to a path of destruction07:18
esc_ape|dan| - basically, yes. same repos and same kernel etc. only the desktop environments are different.07:18
phobiacintelikey: What will happen next time he boots though? Won't it mount under (I'm assuming) root like it is now?07:18
menaintelikey: sorry i cant get it ..can you give me just the command ito add to mee07:19
linux_galores/browser if ine/ browser is fine/07:19
menaintelikey: wait a sconed i do that07:19
kiwell  I don't  see why., linux_galore. I like opera.07:19
|dan|esc_ape: i've tried both gnome and KDE and I am dissatisfied with the lack of customizability on both.  is it possible for me to run a completely different window manager and still retain access to the kde and gnome tools that are part of those environments?07:19
larson9999linx isn't unix-like?07:19
menaintelikey: sudo chmod u+x /dev/hda6 then that ls -l /dev/hda607:20
linux_galoreki: good for you, but Im just stating a fact of history, the last two browser that added irc died07:20
intelikeyphobiac if you have him add M$ specific settings to his fstab it wont mount the ext#fs partition at all  but i'll shut up and let you  "FIX"  it for him.07:20
kiwhat were the last two, by the way?07:20
menaintelikey: hey friends no problem they already mounted07:20
intelikeymena you dont mess with the device node.  leave what's in /dev  alone.   where is the damn thing mounted ?07:20
phobiacintelikey: No, if you know what to do please tell him. I just wanted to know why it wouldn't work.07:20
esc_ape|dan| : you find kde lacking in customizability? that's odd...but to answer your question, yeah, as long as you have the proper repos enabled for apt, you can install whatever you like (i.e. k3b running openbox)07:20
intelikeyif it's not mounted you can't access it07:21
linux_galoreki: also if Opera has "limited" resources wouldnt you prefer them to be put to work on making "opera work better as a browser" not as an irc client07:21
intelikeymena man mount07:21
|dan|esc_ape: cool.  yeah, just as an example - what is the easiest way to sort the icons in your 'start' menu alphabetically in KDE ?07:22
|dan|esc_ape: I couldn't find any method, let alone an easy one.07:22
kiyes I would, linux_galore, as it is already a perfect 'simple' irc client. However, there is a limit to how good html rendering can get...07:22
intelikeyphobiac man mount and  read up on  FILESYSTEM SPECIFIC MOUNT OPTIONS07:22
menaintelikey: what you mena by where is mounted.. i still cant get it ...i know what is mountting the problem i cant understan you okay in any way i wil see itagain and if i get what you mena i will tell you07:22
linux_galoreki: let me explain, the more puddles Opera puts it toes into the less time and resources it has make the browser "better"07:22
phobiacintelikey: No need to shout, thank you though.07:22
esc_ape|dan| - you can do it via the GUI (right click on the Kmenu button and go to Menu Editor)07:23
linux_galoreki: that is exactly what happened to Netscape and Mozilla07:23
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|dan|esc_ape: and then you have to manually drag each icon to the place you want it to appear?07:23
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larson9999linux_galore: neither of those are dead :)07:23
esc_ape|dan| : yeah. I dont know any other way to do it besides editing the config file with nano or kate07:24
intelikeymena ok.      and you can    grep /dev/hda6 /proc/mounts      to see if it is mounted and if so where it's mounted.07:24
menai said its already mounted07:24
linux_galoreki" web 2.0 specs are hardly dry yet and web 3.0 is on the horizon, methods for presenting information are always being innovated07:24
menai will see okay07:24
intelikeyphobiac that wasn't shouting.   that's the exact text to  search for.07:24
linux_galorelarson9999: yeah, how many people ask for Mozilla to be installed "as standard" versus "Firefox"07:25
|dan|esc_ape: also, the icons in the taskbar.  this is something that i've found in gnome so it may not apply to kde, but if you make the taskbar higher so that it can show two rows of application icons, your 'quick launch' icons increase in size to fill the entire bar vertically, as opposed to allowing you to have two rows of quick launch icons07:25
larson9999linux_galore: by that standard, opera on the pc is dead.07:25
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shinigamihi how do i monitor a new process run in my computer? i know of tail -f xxx can monitor if a new thing added to the file07:25
shinigamican i like..tail -f my ps -aux ?07:25
phobiacintelikey: Ah, okay. Sorry.07:25
menaintelikey: its tellingme after the i wrote the command no such file or diectory07:26
intelikeymena how can it be   that you can grasp the idea of mounting file systems and not know  what a mount point is ?     how can you know that it is mounted and not know where ?07:26
linux_galorelarson9999: PC yes. PDA no, on the PDA Opera has stuck to what its good at07:26
esc_ape|dan| not sure if I follow07:26
|dan|esc_ape: ok, you know how you can add 'quick launch' icons to your task bar, that are basically just program shortcuts?07:26
larson9999linux_galore: and so is ff if you ask how many people ask to have ff installed 'as standard' vs ie.  or linux is dead: how many people ask linux to be installed as default vs windows.07:26
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myahhey, linux_galore: What about ksirc then, do youlike that?07:26
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esc_ape|dan| yes07:27
myah(I'm ki, by the way)07:27
linux_galoreOpera should always be a light innovative browser, when you start adding IRC you just muddy the water07:27
|dan|esc_ape: if you make your taskbar higher, those expand vertically to fill available space07:27
linux_galorelite*07:27
menaintelikey: okay wait a seconend07:27
shinigamihow to tail my process ps -aux ????????07:27
|dan|esc_ape: as opposed to staying the same size, and allowing for two rows07:27
myahwell, linux galore how about opera + ksirc + kmail in my xfce linux box?07:27
myahgood enough for you?07:27
linux_galoremyah: yeah, they are separate and "optional"07:28
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chavoshinigami, tail your processes?07:28
myahhehe.07:28
myah:)07:28
linux_galoremyah: with opera you get the kitchen sink or nothing07:28
myahand distant from mozillas popups and slowness07:28
esc_ape|ok| - not sure how to do that in kde07:28
shinigamiu know.. ps -aux i can see the processes..but i want to monitor when a new process comes in..07:28
intelikeymena do you know that you DO NOT look for files in the device dirrectory ?    only the system  and/or system admin on occation  visits /dev/*  there is nothing in there that you want.07:28
shinigamilike how u 'tail -f /var/messages'07:28
|dan|esc_ape: oh, i see.  so kde doesnt allow you to make your taskbar higher?07:29
startswithzhelp! I cannot configure folders to be shared07:29
linux_galoremyah: Im just saying, Opera is making the same mistake as "Mozilla" before Firefox was created07:29
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intelikeygrep /dev/hd /proc/mounts07:29
|dan|esc_ape: i like to have two rows of open applications in my taskbar, because i usually have a lot of things open07:29
intelikey /dev/hdb1 / ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 007:29
chavoshinigami, try top, or install htop for a colorized version07:29
intelikeymena ^  that's an example07:29
menaintelikey: ok with you07:29
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chavo|dan|, you can change the heght of the kde taskbar07:30
larson9999linux_galore: i use seamonkey for that very reason :)07:30
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chavojust right click it for prefernces07:30
linux_galoreyou can out the taskbar "on top" of kciker, it doesnt have to be within kicker07:30
intelikeymena see the device /dev/hdb1   it's mounted on  /  which is the system root  and is fs type is ext307:30
linux_galoreput*07:30
menaif you mena that its ext3 and i tld you that befor07:31
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esc_ape|dan| have you tried to configure the taskbar?07:31
intelikeymena we are not communicating.   sorry.07:31
linux_galoreI use the external taskbar on my dev machine because i usually have about 40-50 windows open07:31
shinigamichavo: because i need to know what's the command being run in my station when i click a link..but it disappear very fast at top07:32
|dan|esc_ape: yeah, i've used the configuration utilities and all that... let me show you a screenshot... i'm uploading it right now...07:32
larson9999|dan|: or change the size of the icons.  mine is configured so two rows are in the task bar07:32
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shinigamii can't catch what's going on07:32
menaintelikey: in nay way no problem i was going to tell you i ams sorry really in any way no proplem07:32
menaany*07:32
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|dan|http://cl1p.net/screenshot07:32
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linux_galoreanyway Im out07:32
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chavoshinigami, you're trying to find the name of a process that is running for only a second?07:33
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menaintelikey: one more thing is that what you are mean /media/hda6 ??!!!.....hmmmmmm dont disrturb you self07:34
intelikeymena you and i both know (used loosely) that your partition is formated ext3 and that the device node is /dev/hda6   now if you want to be able to access that device you have to mount it.    if you mount it and still can't access it (at the mount point, not the device node) then you chmod the mount point.07:34
esc_ape|dan| cool - picture would help. hard to image via irc txt07:34
|dan|see what i'm saying?07:34
intelikey /media/hda6  <<<<  exactly.07:34
|dan|yeah. http://cl1p.net/screenshot07:34
menai had the acces i mena the permison for write and read07:34
shinigamichavo: yesss07:34
|dan|just click the 'download desktop.jpg' link07:35
intelikeymena that's where it's mounted.     sudo chmod 777 /media/hda607:35
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menaokay good for mee hehehe ^_^07:35
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intelikeymena you are dismissed now  :)07:35
|dan|lol. 7 people have downloaded so far, and no comments!07:36
menaintelikey: heheh07:36
intelikeyphobiac did you keep up with that ?07:36
chavo|dan|, not sure exactly what you're looking for07:37
phobiacintelikey: Yeah07:37
intelikeykl07:37
phobiacWhy did you use chmod 777 though?07:37
|dan|chavo: see how my taskbar 'quick launch' icons expand to huge size?  i want to know if i can avoid that with KDE07:37
esc_ape|dan| me either. you want the application icons to have two rows?07:37
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chavo|dan|, try using the quicklaunch applet07:37
|dan|yeah! the quick launch icons to stay small and have more rows07:37
chavoright click -> add applet -> quick launcher07:38
intelikeyphobiac assuming that he wants world access.  and ffr dirs have to be execured.07:38
mena!permisions07:38
|dan|chavo: cool, that allows you to have more rows of quick launch icons?07:38
mena!permision07:38
chavoyes07:38
shinigamichavo: do u know of any way to doit?07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about permisions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
phobiacAh okay07:38
|dan|cool. thanks!  btw, what do you think of my desktop?07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about permision - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
intelikeymena you can read about permissions   man chmod07:39
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chavoshinigami, you could do a loop of ps and append it to a file maybe?07:39
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intelikeyand the numbers i used 777 translate to ---rwxrwxrwx07:40
chavo|dan|, looks nice07:40
menaintelikey: ok07:40
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|dan|chavo: thanks07:41
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startswithzI can't get beryl to have less than 10 desktops.  How do I get down to 4?07:42
esc_apecan someone say my nick? testing a sound event07:42
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sampanmy nick07:43
chavoesc_ape, hey07:43
chavolol07:43
esc_apeheh07:44
esc_apethanks07:44
esc_apeesc_ape07:44
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TonrenI just downloaded the flash plugin installer from Adobe and told it to install to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox.  How do I tell it to install for Konqueror?07:44
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esc_apeTonren : doesnt it ask if you want to install elsewhere?07:45
Tonrenesc_ape: yeah, but I don't know where Konqueror is07:45
esc_apewhereis konqueror07:46
esc_apelocate konqueror07:46
esc_apetry those07:46
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Taime1what is the difference between the nvidia beta driver and the nvidia driver?07:48
startswithzhaving a bit of a problem.  Can't configure file sharing.  screenshot: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/631/snapshot1pp6.png07:48
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chavoTaime1, the beta is not as well tested, can have more bugs07:49
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Taime1okay07:49
esc_apecan someone do me a favor? I need someone to send me a quick message on gaim (aim)...07:49
chavostartswithz, do you have nfs or samba installed?07:50
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startswithzlemme check I have a sinking feeling i am about to be embarrassed07:50
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startswithzsamba is installed07:51
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phobiacI'm off07:55
menaTHANKS ALL FRIENDS FOR HELP AND SPECIALY PHOBIAC AND INTELIKEY07:56
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menaBYE ALL..........WITH GOD BLESS+07:56
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esc:)07:56
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Perunahello08:03
eschello08:03
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Perunafor some reason I'm unable to move applets in the panels08:04
escPeruna : are they locked?08:05
Perunausually there is a handle for each applets so that u just have to grab it and move around.. mine have all disappeared even though the move "Lock Panels" is on enabled08:05
Peruna*mode08:06
escPeruna : they are probably hidden08:06
Perunaehh "on enable" > not enabled08:06
Perunaoh it's there a way to unhid them ?08:06
escright click on panel > Configure Panel > Appearance > Adv Options08:08
Perunawo there it is08:08
Perunathnx alot :)08:09
escno problem08:09
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shinigamihi i need some help on variables08:17
shinigamii got a script to install mplay...it set SERVER=192.168.2.201 .. but i doing a server migration to 192.168.2.20208:18
shinigamihow do i change the variable without re-running the script?08:18
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phed__hi08:20
phed__is there a colorful less?08:20
Hobbseephed__: havent seen one.  i've seen coloured bash, and coloured vi though08:20
phed__and oh ... how can i get an oscilloscope down right?08:20
phed__yeah, and i use htop, l, and colormake as well08:21
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Pekkeis there any way for me to reduce the memory usage of the Kubuntu, because i have 256 memory, and KsysGuard shows that 250 used...08:32
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escPekke : memory in KDE isnt used in a typical fashion08:34
escthe memory is all used as cache08:35
sampanpekke  that's normal.  my mem is 512 and 505 or so is used (no matter how many apps i have running it stays about the same).08:35
Pekkeok, i have noticed that too (doesn't matter how many applications is on)08:36
chavoyeah I have a gig of memeory and it all gets used08:36
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Pekkedo you guys think that kubuntu is too heavy for my laptop (fujitsu siemens 800Mhz, 256 mem, ati rage 4Mb...) it sometimes gets really slow and stuff.. is Ubuntu a much lighter, or is there any difference?08:37
escI would say they are the same...08:38
chavoPekke, ubuntu or Gnome too me is slower than KDE08:38
chavobut only a little08:38
Pekkei'm no expert with linuxes, so i've understoof that gnome is lighter that kde?08:38
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escgnome isnt light08:38
escno08:38
escyou should try xubuntu08:38
Pekkebut i took off all the transparency and stuf08:38
Pekkeso it got a little bit faster08:38
chavoIt just has less stuff so peple assume it's lighter08:38
Pekkeok08:38
escI have kde running as fast as xfce08:39
Skrot-Pekke: Any particular apps that are slower?08:39
sampanpekke  xubuntu would be lighter, or even installing something like fluxbox.08:39
Pekkei actually red that from wikipedia...08:39
Pekkewell, openoffice and firefox takes quite long to start, but after that they work ok08:39
Skrot-Thats expected08:40
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Skrot-Running non-kde applications in kde often results in more memory usage and slower operation08:40
HobbseePekke: use xubuntu08:40
Pekkei used xubuntu for a while, but it just doesn't seem something i like to use...08:40
escso a true fast kde is possible, but it takes alot of work (kde-core install)...if you dont want to handle that just yet, try xfce (or xubuntu)08:40
Skrot-As running non-gtk applications will in gnome :)08:40
escyup08:41
escamarok in gnome kind of sucks08:41
escthat's one example in my experience08:41
Pekkebut i guess this works fine for now, untill i get a better laptop and stuff...08:41
Pekkeoh, i have one problem with this, i can't get my cd/dvd om to work.08:41
chavoYeah any newer OS will be slow on that laptop08:41
Skrot-Pekke: If you where to use koffice and konqueror you would save memory atleast08:41
Pekkeok, i'll try08:42
Skrot-Since a lot of the libs they used are already preloaded since KDE depends on some of them08:42
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Pekkedo i have to mount my cd/dvd rom somehow or something, because it worked fine in Xubuntu, but this doesn't play any music cds i put in or anything.this doesn't even show that there is a cd in. Adn in AmaroK, if i push eject, it won't do anything08:44
escI wish I could use konq as a browser...but im stuck on firefox08:44
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Skrot-Pekke: Try kscd08:44
Skrot-esc: Why?08:45
Perunawhat is the name for SLED-like start-menu in Kubuntu ?08:45
Skrot-I use firefox for my online banking, but thats about it08:45
Skrot-Peruna: kbfx or kickstart?08:45
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escSkrot : there are few extensions that I use on firefox that I've developed a habit for...I really want to make konq my default08:46
Perunakickstart I guess08:46
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Pekkei tried kscd, but it doesn't do anything about the cd08:46
Skrot-esc: ah08:46
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escSkrot: is firefox supposed to run well in kde4?08:47
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esc(better gtk integration)08:47
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Skrot-No idea :)08:47
krautmoin08:48
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escSkot : do you use konqueror?08:48
Skrot-Yupp08:48
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escSkrot : do you know of a download statusbar for konq?08:51
Skrot-Define download statusbar :)08:51
Skrot-You could always integrate konqueror with kget to get the same type "download manager" that firefox has08:51
eschttp://downloadstatusbar.mozdev.org/images/mainpage093.png08:51
Pekkei installed the KPowerSave(or something like that) in Adept, and now i have lost the Laptop menu in System Setting/Laptops & Power. There are only Sony and IBM menus.. and also the applet that shows my battery time left in the panel is gone. Can i get them back somehow without uninstalling that PowerSave application?(i can't seem to get my laptop to suspend, that's why i tried that, but i don't know how to use it)08:52
Skrot-ah, no :)08:52
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escI guess the dlstatusbar isnt that big of a deal... do you know if the final flash for linux works well with konq?08:52
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Skrot-esc: I'm using the beta of 9 and it works really good :)08:53
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escskrot : cool. im going to switch over to konq once and for all...the only gtk app I'll use is gaim & audacity08:54
Skrot-Why gaim?08:54
escno real reason I guess. been using it for years. and the new beta is real nice. havent really tried kopete yet08:56
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Skrot-Newest flash 9.0 for linux seems to work fine as well08:57
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Pekkeis it easy to install the Java plugin for Konqueror?08:58
Perunais there a similar apps to Finder(OSX) for Kubuntu ?08:59
Skrot-What does Finder do?08:59
escSkrot: odd question but what the heck is this on konq?: http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1151/snapshot1df5.jpg09:00
escI cant figure it out09:00
Skrot-afaik its adblock09:00
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Skrot-I clicked it one day and suddenly all ads where gone.. hehe09:00
Perunainstant look for files on computer09:00
Perunalike Google Desktop search09:00
Skrot-Peruna: There are several initiatives for desktop indexing. Strigi and Beagle for instance09:00
Perunaoh09:01
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Skrot-I think Strigi will be further integrated in KDE 409:01
Perunanice09:01
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LynourePeruna: instant in what way?09:01
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Skrot-Insted of recursivly searching the acctual files it searches a index, which is faster09:02
LynourePeruna:  find  and  locate are pretty instant, IMO09:02
Skrot-So it appears "instant ":)09:02
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payalhi all09:02
Perunalike typing a word and it will list files right away09:02
payalI want to apt-get package mutt09:02
payalhow do I do it09:02
payalapt-get install mutt09:02
Skrot-Peruna: That's exactly what Strigi does, along with metadata09:02
Hobbseeyes09:02
Hobbseepayal: yes09:03
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Perunait will also show text documents which has the word inside09:03
LynourePeruna: if you know the filename, or part of it,  that's  locate filenamepart09:03
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payalit does not work09:03
LynourePeruna: find is a bit more complicated, see   man find09:03
Skrot-Peruna: Strigi will probably also list id3-tags from mp3s etc09:03
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payalit says cannot find package mutt09:03
Perunayeah I think Strigi is what I'm looking for09:04
payaldoes apt-get reqire some configuration like urpmi for Mandrake09:04
Skrot-It's not as well integrated as Finder probably is in OSX though.09:04
payalany ideas on it?09:04
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Lynourepayal: Not always. But you could pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list09:05
Pekkecan someone give me directions howto install the java plugin for the Konqueror?09:05
Skrot-!java09:05
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:05
Skrot-Pekke: After java is installed, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-c0ade16437f7da9136027572a9481cd65757bd4109:05
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Lynourepayal: or do  sudo apt-get update  to fetch the new list of available packages, but that should happen automatically09:07
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payalhttp://pastebin.ca/32129809:08
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payalI have pasted the file at http://pastebin.ca/32129809:09
Pekkeit says on Konqueror that Java is enabled, but in java websites it says no plugin.. I don't know a lot, but i managed to install in onto Firefox...09:10
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payalany ideas09:10
Lynourepayal: It connects, so try sudo apt-get update09:11
Skrot-Pekke: Does it say anything in "Path to Java executable, or 'java'" on konqueror configuration?09:11
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shinigamihi09:14
sampanhehehe i'm the reverse pekke .... sun java works fine for me in konq but not in firefox09:14
Jucatorun!! it's a god of death!09:14
shinigamii find that mysqld is not automatically run when i boot up.. how do i make it auto run when boot up? /etc/rc.local ?09:14
JucatoPekke: how did you install Java?09:15
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Skrot-Speaking of java, does anyone know how to switch from 1.4 to 1.5/5.0 in eclipse?09:16
payalLynoure: it says 0 upgraded, 0 installed etc.......09:16
payaldo i have to restart apt-get of what ?09:17
Lynourepayal: Are you sure you did sudo apt-get update09:17
Pekkewhen i type that line from the java installinE: Couldn't find package sun-javag info in the konsole it says:09:17
Lynourepayal: What you got sounds more like apt-get install  or even apt-get upgrade!09:17
Pekkewhoah,09:17
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Pekkewhen i type that line from the java installin info in the konsole it says:E: Couldn't find package sun-javag09:17
Pekkethat way09:17
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Jucatosun-java5-jre09:18
ubuntu_Hello, Could someone help me? I'm having problems booting my comp in grub.. I keep getting errors after a fresh install.09:18
Pekkei installed JAva for the firefox like this:09:18
Pekke1. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list09:18
Pekke2. Add "multiverse" to all lines where is "universe".09:18
Pekke3. sudo apt-get update09:18
Pekke4. sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-jre09:18
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Jucato!pastebin | Pekke09:19
Lynourepayal: The last line of results of update should be rather "Reading package lists... Done09:19
shinigamihi anyone knows how to use mysql?09:19
shinigamii'm having this error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)09:19
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kkosmothe user not good09:19
kkosmofix it09:19
shinigami!mysql09:19
shinigamiwhat? how09:19
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kkosmosec09:20
JucatoPekke: try this command: "sudo update-alternatives --config java" then choose the sun java version09:20
Pekkewhen i type that it says that sun-java5-jre is already the newest version09:20
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kkosmomysqladmin -u root -p create ja09:21
shinigamihi Pekke : try apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree09:21
shinigamiif you want to play from youtube.com etc09:21
kkosmohe want java09:21
kkosmonot flash man09:21
Pekkeflash player seems to work fine09:21
shinigamikkosmo: password?09:22
Pekkeexcept all the newest versions ( i think i have the 7. version) ?09:22
kkosmocrate09:22
kkosmocreate09:22
Skrot-Pekke: java -version in console09:22
kkosmopekke install java 909:22
kkosmois beteer09:22
kkosmobetter09:22
Lynourepayal: So, any different results now?09:22
Skrot-java 9? Flash 9, Java 509:22
kkosmoshow more sites09:22
kkosmono09:22
kkosmoflash 909:22
kkosmosorry09:22
shinigamimysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed09:22
Skrot-=)09:22
Lynoure!enter09:22
Skrot-flash 9 for linux is good :)09:22
kkosmo=[09:22
kkosmoi wrong09:23
kkosmoi feel stupid09:23
danielcheshi09:23
kkosmo=[09:23
payala sec09:23
Skrot-With all the java/flash going on here it's a easy mistake ;)09:23
Lynourekkosmo: "Please do not use enter for punctuation"09:23
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kkosmooo ok09:23
kkosmolynoure i am sorry09:24
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payal Lynoure sorry it is not working - what command od I give exactly09:24
danielcheswhats the konsole command to kill the things using package database?09:24
Lynourekkosmo: It's ok :)09:24
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Jucatodanielches: why? what happened?09:24
ubuntu_If my computer uses my Sata as it's first harddrive to boot do I need to put my grub installation on it? Instead of the IDE harddrive i'm installing kubuntu to?09:24
kkosmotry09:24
kkosmopkill09:24
Lynourepayal: sudo apt-get update09:24
shinigamikkosmo: i'm getting mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed09:24
danielchesi'm trying to install java09:24
kkosmoyou need the name of procsess09:24
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Jucatodanielches: and then?09:25
payalapt-get upgrade09:25
payalReading package lists... Done09:25
payalBuilding dependency tree... Done09:25
danielchesand i had to close the package manager thing since it stopped,09:25
payal0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:25
kkosmoshinigami09:25
kkosmo?09:25
Jucatodanielches: aah09:25
Lynourepayal: UPDATE09:25
danielcheson license agreement thig09:25
Jucato!adept crash fix | danielches09:25
danielchesthz09:25
Lynourepayal: not upgrade.09:25
danielchesthx09:25
Jucatoerr.. wehre' sthe bot?09:25
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Jucatowhere's the bot...09:25
Jucato!ping09:25
danielches?09:25
kkosmo!java09:25
danielchestype what?09:26
danielches !adept crash fix09:26
danielches?09:26
Jucatodanielches: sudo dpkg --configure -a09:26
Lynourepayal: copy-paste if you have to.09:26
Skrot-Java is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java09:26
kkosmo!adeptcrashfix09:26
danielchesthz09:26
danielchesthx09:26
chuenHi. I'm installing a printer which require a driver not on the list. I have found which directory the driver is in /usr/share/doc/cupsys-driver-gimpprint/09:26
kkosmochuen09:26
kkosmo?09:26
Jucatough.. printing...09:26
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chuenbut it has 3 files in - 2 are 'gz'09:26
kkosmowhat your printer type?09:26
Jucatokkosmo: seems like the bot's down..09:26
ubotudanielches: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'09:26
payalLynoure: got it09:26
ubotupong09:26
danielchesyeah09:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:26
chuenjucato: Thanks ;-)09:26
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'09:26
danielchesi get following message with that:09:27
danielchesdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sun-java5-plugin:09:27
kkosmochuen?09:27
kkosmowhat your printer type ?09:27
danielches sun-java5-plugin depends on sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1); however:09:27
danielches  Package sun-java5-bin is not installed.09:27
danielchesdpkg: error processing sun-java5-plugin (--configure):09:27
danielches dependency problems - leaving unconfigured09:27
danielchesErrors were encountered while processing:09:27
danielches sun-java5-plugin09:27
danielchesi need some help with how to install java09:27
kkosmoinstall it alone witout the apt09:27
Jucatodanielches: try "sudo apt-get -f install "09:27
chuenkkosmo: Epson r"00. I checked on the hardware list and it can work wit that driver.09:27
chuenR200.09:28
kkosmoooo i think you have printer like my09:28
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Lynourepayal: it should show a lot of lines starting with Hit: or Get:09:28
payalLynoure: thanks a lot09:28
payalLynoure: it worked beautifully09:28
danielchesso, "sudo apt-get -f install"09:28
Jucatodanielches: yep. tries to fix it09:28
Lynourepayal: So you got mutt now? Good :)09:28
chuenkkosmo: You 'think' I do?09:29
danielches(Reading database ...09:29
danielchesdpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java5-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.09:29
danielches?09:29
payalLynoure: i am going to my friend's office nearby - she has lots of bandwidth09:29
payalI will downlad many things09:29
aftertafanyone managed to get automatix working... ie it installs something?09:29
Lynourepayal: have fun! :)09:29
Jucatodanielches: hm... "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"?09:30
ubuntu_Could someone tell me what I'm doing wrong with grub? I keep getting Error 22 when I try to boot up.09:30
kkosmoLynoure:09:30
kkosmo?09:30
payalbyee09:30
danielchesweird09:30
danielchesits working now09:30
chuenkkosmo: Any thoughts?09:30
danielches:)09:31
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kkosmoyou know how i can change the language of only the konsole to en not all the system language only the konsole langage?09:31
kkosmolanguage*09:31
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codytanyone know of a video-playing pluging for Firefox that actually works?09:31
Lynourekkosmo: What did you want of me?09:31
kkosmohelp09:31
kkosmoi need to change the language of konosle to english only konsole you know how?09:32
codythave the kaffiene one, but it just launches kaffiene.09:32
Pekkenow it recognizes the java plugin, but nothing happens when i go to a java page. it just says"Loading JAva--->Ready" but java stays blank after that...09:32
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Nusclycodyt: mplayer-plugin works well09:32
kkosmowai09:32
kkosmot09:32
Lynourekkosmo: No, I do not know how only change the language of one up in a pretty way09:32
kkosmoPekke:09:32
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Nusclycodyt: kaffeine plugin is buggy09:33
Pekkeyeas...?09:33
kkosmowait09:33
kkosmois take some time to load09:33
NusclyPekke: perhaps your browser don't use the right VM of java09:34
codyt'kay, thanks.09:34
Pekkeok..09:34
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NusclyPekke: use the alternative method to choose the right one09:35
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NusclyPekke: debian alternative09:35
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ForgeAushey all :)09:35
ForgeAusbooting off the live CD09:35
ForgeAusI still think this edgy cd is damaged (stupid ISP logging me out all the time)09:35
underdog5004what's up, ForgeAus ?09:36
ForgeAusI'm really angry right now09:36
underdog5004ForgeAus, did you burn it yourself?09:36
ForgeAusyeah underdog09:36
underdog5004ForgeAus, What speed, and using which burning program?09:36
ForgeAusbut I can't be certain the download wasn't corrupted.. it mostly works09:36
ForgeAusI used nero (on winxp) to burn the iso09:36
underdog5004ForgeAus, did you use bittorrent to download?09:36
ForgeAusno09:36
underdog5004use it09:36
ForgeAusI was in WinXP09:36
ForgeAusgrrr09:37
ForgeAusI can't d/l it from live cd distro can I? wheres it goina d/l to?09:37
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ForgeAusplus my ISP isn't fixing things :( they got this stupid login screen that keeps logging me out and he's blaming my router...09:37
ForgeAusbut he doesn't want to SOLVE it09:37
underdog5004ForgeAus, use utorrent. It's very small and fast. Very good, and if a piece fails a hash check, it gets tossed and re-downloaded.09:37
ForgeAusjust dumps it back on me all the time09:37
ForgeAuswith NO guarantee that a different router will fix it09:37
underdog5004lol, not sure if that'll help your ISP thing...09:38
ForgeAusnor any suggestion as to what router to get!09:38
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underdog5004what connection type do you have?09:38
ForgeAusthanx... I'll keep utorrent in mind09:38
ForgeAus(even though I normally HATE using torrents)09:38
ForgeAuswireless09:38
menahey what is the best graphic ware for kde09:38
ForgeAus(through a dlink (local net wired to a wireless router) wired to a wrt "bridge"/wireless router on a grid/antenna thats on my garage09:39
underdog5004ForgeAus, no, provider type (ex. cable, dsl, t1, t3, dialup....)09:39
ForgeAusgraphic? um... get gimp! :) sorry..09:39
ForgeAusthats Gnome tho not kde09:39
underdog5004ware? haven't heard that term for a while...09:39
ForgeAusprolly will work in kubuntu tho09:39
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ForgeAusafter that theres things like krila but I dunno much about that09:40
underdog5004yep, it will...you just need to sudo apt-get install gimp09:40
ForgeAusprovider type is wireless09:40
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menaForgeAus: thanks09:40
ForgeAusunderdog has KDE got better gfx proggies than that?09:40
underdog5004ForgeAus, that's weird...never heard of that before...are you leeching off of somebody else's wireless?09:40
ForgeAusI know theres a few packages09:40
ForgeAusno09:40
ForgeAusI'm paying for it through an ISP who has an isp himsel09:40
ForgeAusf09:40
underdog5004ForgeAus, ntiko, gimp is the way to go, IMHO09:40
menaunderdog5004: thanks09:40
ForgeAushe relays his isp to me through wireless09:40
ForgeAus(and undercuts thier price09:41
underdog5004ForgeAus, ah, gotcha...09:41
ForgeAusmeana what xactly you wanna do with it?09:41
chuenAnyone help me load printer driver from another directory?09:41
ForgeAusbitmaps? svg?... blender's ok for its purpose (modelling???)09:41
underdog5004Watch out, though, because that's probably against the ToS that your friend/ISP signed when he bought his access...09:41
menaok09:42
ForgeAusunderdog prolly09:42
underdog5004mena, np, have fun w/ gimp09:42
ForgeAusbut SOMEONE has to fix this its getting too bad09:42
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ForgeAus(working ok under kubuntu right now but I don't need it working under kubuntu I need it working under my usual configs09:42
ForgeAusbrb09:42
menaok thanks again09:43
underdog5004ForgeAus, just go with the main guy...who cares if you pay an extra 20 bucks if it all works right?09:43
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ForgeAusum if I knew who the main guy was09:43
ForgeAusand they probably won't be any better (they're not likely to support my local net either are they?)09:43
underdog5004ForgeAus, where do you live?09:43
ForgeAusAustralia09:43
underdog5004oh.09:43
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ForgeAuswe don't even have cable in this area :(09:44
underdog5004uh....lemme google around for broadband in Australia...whereabouts?09:44
ForgeAus(aside from a non-standard one)09:44
ForgeAusum whirlpool website mostly09:44
ForgeAusgeelong victoria here09:44
underdog5004ok...h/o09:44
ForgeAusIv'e been there...09:44
ForgeAus(to check for isp's and stuff)09:44
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underdog5004ForgeAus, whoa...looks like nothing is available...09:45
Pekkei guess the JAva plugin works now, but i can't be sure because i can't find any Java page from the web =) (when you need something, you can't find it! =))09:45
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ForgeAustheres lotsa dsl ISP's here09:46
ForgeAuseven ADSL2 now09:46
ForgeAusbut no cable :(09:46
PhlostenPekke: if you just want to make sure Java is working, visit www.java.com and click verify09:46
PhlostenForgeAus: where in Aus?09:46
underdog5004ForgeAus, why not go w/ dsl or Adsl?09:46
ForgeAusGeelong Victoria Phlosten09:46
ForgeAusI was on ADSL09:47
Phlostenah, missed it a few lines earlier ;)09:47
ForgeAusand Telstra decided to charge me $1000+ for one month09:47
ForgeAusI told them no way09:47
ForgeAusand cut it off to look for better solutions09:47
underdog5004whoa...that's way too much!09:47
Phlostenerr09:47
ForgeAusyeah that was way back tho09:47
ForgeAusthey probably traffic shape nowerdays instead of pricing per meg or whatever over a limit09:48
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ForgeAusstill I don't relish the idea of going back to my bigpond connection09:48
Phlosteni'm on bigpuddle09:48
ForgeAusbigpuddle? whats that?09:48
Phlostenbigpond09:48
ForgeAuslol I was on bigpond back then09:48
ForgeAusthey had a 3 gig limit09:48
ForgeAusand I got to 9 gig09:48
underdog5004per MONTH!?!?09:48
ForgeAusso they charged me 1000$09:48
underdog5004ouch...09:49
ForgeAusyes per month09:49
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ForgeAusback then09:49
ForgeAusdunno what it is now09:49
Phlostenbut I am planning to move to internode09:49
|lostbyte|Hi guys..09:49
ForgeAusbut I'm not going to open myself up to that kind of problem again09:49
ForgeAusinternode, yeah they sound ok... I think I've heard of them before09:49
underdog5004seriously....09:49
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ForgeAusplus I know bigpond don't support local nets anyhow09:49
menaDId Gparted WOrk on kde09:50
ForgeAusmena it should09:50
ForgeAusI know I've ran it before09:50
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menaok09:50
underdog5004mena, gparted should work, but I would d/l the liveCD of gparted.09:50
PhlostenForgeAus: internode have a great deal09:50
posingaspopularin konversation how do you switch between rooms using the keyboard?09:50
PhlostenForgeAus: exetel have also been recommended to me09:50
menaokay09:50
underdog5004mena, that way you don't mess something up very much.09:50
ForgeAusExetel I havn't heard of09:50
ForgeAusI'm thinking maybe westnet09:51
menaok09:51
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PhlostenForgeAus: exetel do mainly corporate connections09:51
ForgeAusis tpg still around?09:51
PhlostenForgeAus: our local council uses them and their IT guy has good things to say about em09:51
ForgeAustpgi Id' prolly be happy with09:51
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Pekkewell, java got verified. but everytime i start Konqueror, i have to go to HTML settings and enable it again. How can i save my HTML-settings(with Java enabled)?09:53
ForgeAusI need some money before I can think of this stuff... I barely got enough to pay my current ISP!09:53
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PekkeHow can i get the Laptop AC/battery time etc. applet back to the Panel? It's gone and i can't find it anywhere....09:55
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Jucatoguidance-power-manager ?09:56
menaIs there any wrong if i installed Kde then The OS xp on another partition.....Kde First Then Xp ...WHat Do You think And If I done that what would happened09:56
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underdog5004mena,  I would install XP first, then Kubuntu, that way, the GrUB is the bootloader that's installed on the MBR, not the microsoft version.09:57
Jucatomena: your bootloader would be overwritten, and you'd have to do some special steps to get it back09:57
menaokay then i will install xp first thanks friends09:58
ForgeAuscan you boot up kubuntu from ntldr?09:58
Pekkei guess it's the guidance power manager... but where can i start it/ get it into my panel next to clock....09:58
ForgeAusI mean its pretty much generic isn't it?09:58
JucatoPekke: try Alt+F2, guidance-power-manager09:59
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Pekkenoup09:59
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cntb\o all10:00
cntbHow to change desktop theme . for example to get ellow colour of folders on Desktop?10:01
cntb*yellow10:01
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cntbGood Morning10:01
cntbapokryphos:  join ubuntu-gr10:02
Pekkereboot--->10:03
Jucato??10:03
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Perunacntb you mean .. changing icons ?10:04
Perunastyle of it10:04
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premier_hey guys10:05
cntbPeruna: yeah ty10:05
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premier_Im having trouble with my sound10:05
Perunago to www.kde-look.org10:05
cntb!hi | premier_10:05
ubotupremier_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:05
Perunadownload icon pack and install it10:06
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chuenCan anyone help me load a new printer driver pls?10:06
premier_It appears to going through all the motions (amorak plays music, etc) but no sound plays10:06
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webbenI'm trying to work out why the ubuntu repositories don't include http://cairographics.org/libsvg10:07
underdog5004premier, what model soundcard do you have?10:07
cntblooked in Kmix (kmix) premier_ ?10:07
premier_I had some trouble with this before and I figured out the aoss got screwed up, so I reinstalled it10:07
webbenapparently ubuntu mainly uses gnome's librsvg ... but what does kubuntu use?10:07
premier_underdog5004: how do I find that out?10:07
underdog5004premier_, lspci10:07
premier_cntb: what am I looking for in kmix?10:07
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underdog5004if it's a pci sound card10:07
cntbpremier_: try in konsole lsmod10:07
menafreinds how can i get information abouty uuid through the terminal10:08
premier_00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)10:08
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cntbpremier_: that is good model of sound card not many problems with it10:09
Nusclychuen: what is your printer ?10:09
premier_It appears to be working now. I recently rebooted, and before I did that It was having a lot of trouble10:09
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mena!uuid10:09
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:09
chuenNucyls: Epson R200 - it's been found to work with cupsys-driver-gimpprint10:10
premier_It seems to go in and out10:10
chuenNuuscly: I've got that diver from 'Universe' but when I browse to install it for prining, the directory has gz files in.10:11
chuenNuscly: I'll get your name right when I can type properly :)10:11
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Nusclychuen: What are the kind of files are there in the directory ? blabla.ppd.gz ?10:13
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premier_yeah, I was trying to wine starcraft (which works great btw) and I accidentally screwed up alsa, and thats how this all started10:14
chuenNuscly: changelog.Debian.gz, changelog.gz , copyright. Mmmmm.10:14
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chuenNuscly: No PPD :)10:15
underdog5004umm, what's the flag for rmdir to delete all sub-directories?10:15
mindspinrm -R10:16
underdog5004thank you, mindspin10:16
mindspinyw10:16
underdog5004got 20 gigs or so of mirrored repo's that I've got for absolutely no reason at all...lol, all stored on a headless server...gotta ssh into it...bleagh10:17
Nusclychuen: what's the name of the package ?10:18
premier_hey, maybe you guys can help me with something else for a moment10:18
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premier_I have a dual boot with windows, and windows is taking up 70gigs of my 100 gig hard drive, which is obviously too much10:18
premier_since I dont use it all that much anymore10:19
underdog5004!gparted | premier_10:19
ubotupremier_: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php10:19
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premier_There seems to be a big "unmovable" file at the end of that partition, though, so I dont want to just hap-hazard partition, or else I'll destroy windows10:20
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OlgaBThe only internet-related things that are working right now are apt and IRC, what gives?10:21
chuenNuscly: All I can find in the respository is copsys-driver-gimpprint i sthat what you mean?10:21
premier_can I pastebin my lsmod, or is there something I should grep for?10:21
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underdog5004premier_, gparted  will move items around when resizing a partition to make everything fit, if possible.10:25
premier_or really?10:25
premier_awesome10:25
premier_what does it do if it runs out of space?10:25
underdog5004idk...just make sure you've got enough space...lol10:25
underdog5004but watch out, It might take a while resizing NTFS partitions...took me 14+ hours for a 200 gig partition....10:25
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premier_underdog5004: really?  hmm...10:27
premier_Ill try to clean it up a bit first10:27
Nusclychuen: did tou have foomatic-db-engine package installed ? it seem the driver is in gimp-print > 4.2.710:27
underdog5004do you use XP for anything?10:27
Nusclychuen: Did you try the kde add printer wizard ?10:27
chuenNuscly: Will go and check ...10:27
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premier_underdog5004: well, games, theres something wrong with my tvtuner that makes it not work in linux10:28
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underdog5004ah....bummer...10:28
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escis konqueror annoying for everyone as well?10:28
chuenNuscly: I did , but the driver wasn't listed - which is why I browsed for it.  One sec ....10:28
apokryphoskonqueror rocks my socks10:28
premier_actually, I could install another linux.  I suppose I would be kidding myself to find a distro that will support an ati mobility radeon X1400, eh?10:29
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underdog5004esc, naw, I like it. It does graphical ftp, passes the acid2 test, flash, java, file browsing...10:29
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underdog5004premier_, about the gfx card....yeah, you would10:29
kendrickhrm, is there a particular package i need to install to get video previews to appear in konqueror?10:29
premier_konquerer is one of the bragging points of linux for me10:29
kendrick(i guess, thumbnails of some frame of the video, rather than a generic 'film frame' icon)10:29
underdog5004kendrick, maybe xine...10:29
underdog5004or just wait for it to load if you're on old hardware...10:30
chuenNuscly: foomatic-db-engine is installed.10:30
escI'm having a problem. I want konq as a file manager to open my home directory as the home page...and I also want konq as a browser to open google.com as a homepage. but they keep getting confused.10:30
kendrickunderdog5004: i'm on a 1.5GHz box :)10:30
premier_underdog5004: besides kubuntu, is there a distro that you think I could install?10:30
underdog5004kendrick, still might take some time...10:30
kendrickesc: launch with different profiles10:30
kendrickunderdog5004: 15mins? :)10:30
premier_I wanna try something a little... "harder"... something I could experiment with10:31
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underdog5004premier_, umm...for the graphics card? Maybe Knoppix, I've heard it's got phenomenal hardware detection, but I don't know if that applies to gfx cards...10:31
underdog5004kendrick, no, never that long...have you got kaffeine installed?10:31
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kendricki do10:31
kendrickoddly, it does not ever launch10:31
premier_underdog5004: Ive kinda given up on that graphics card10:31
kendrickso i've set my prefs to launch things in kmplayer10:31
underdog5004kendrick, try doing this from konsole: killall kaffeine10:31
kendrick(stopped working ever sincs i began futzing around with Xgl :^/ )10:31
esckendrick :  I am, but I still have the problem. the browser will open up to google.com, but when I press the home button I am taken to my home directory rather than back to google.com10:31
underdog5004then open it...10:32
underdog5004oh, kendrick...I don't know much about xgl...sorry10:32
premier_actually, mepis seemed to work better... I could get to the console, and my tvtuner worked alittle10:32
premier_thats really the problems for me10:32
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underdog5004esc, why not use fire/swiftfox?10:32
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escI primarily use firefox, but I'd like to avoid gtk while on kde. plus konq is waaay faster a browser...10:33
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unix_lappyesc: konq, the faster browser of the two?10:34
unix_lappyyou must be dillusional.10:34
OlgaBopera lolz10:34
underdog5004I would use dillo for speed10:34
underdog5004!dillo10:34
unix_lappylinks2 -g :)10:34
ubotudillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB10:34
esckonq is faster than firefox10:34
unix_lappyftw10:34
OlgaBExcept for the fact that opera isn't working on my computer for some reason now.10:34
Nusclychuen: I found stylus photo R200 in Epson list10:34
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Nusclychuen: on my kubuntu dapper10:35
eschttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340042&highlight=konqueror+speed10:35
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chuenNuscly: Sure, I have it too - but not with the gimpprint driver listed!10:36
menaFriends How To set the permisions of partitions just to me without using 77710:36
menaor is that okay of setting the permision to 77710:37
unix_lappychown10:37
unix_lappyor you can use kde's gui permissions manager, which i dont recommend.10:37
menaokay10:37
underdog5004mena, chown username /path/to/file/or/dir10:38
underdog5004I think10:38
menaokat that will remove the other permisions right10:38
Nusclychuen: If you try the printer driver available, is it Ok ?10:38
menaokay*10:38
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underdog5004ok everyone, I'm going to bed...g'night!10:40
menaunix_lappy: that would remove other permision i had done ?10:40
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chuenNuscly: NO. But the priner error lights are flashing anyway - I just got the printer today so need to RTFM! But I don't think they should be flashing as there's ink an paper present.10:41
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Nusclychuen: strange10:42
ForgeAuscan I mount a fat32 partition in kubuntu?10:42
ForgeAusfrom the live CD?10:43
chuenNuscly: Thanks for your time. I'll look the printer over thoroughly and come back later.10:43
Nusclychuen: Good luck10:43
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chuenNuscly: Thanks. ttyl.10:44
OlgaBrawr10:45
OlgaBFor some reason azureus and opera won't work.10:45
OlgaBBut everything else does.10:45
codytForgeAus,10:45
codytI think it's 'mount -t vfat ..."10:46
OlgaBI think I'll just reset my computer10:46
OlgaBbrb10:46
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True_Friendubuntu10:48
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True_FriendHi folks how to specify a key for kyboard layout lavel3 shortcut in KDE???10:49
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Supranohi10:49
Supranowhats the difference between kubuntu & ubuntu10:50
Grumpfhelp .. my notebook with freshly installed kubuntu does not want to connect to the internet (wired connection with a router)10:50
codytSuprano, ubuntu uses the gnome for a window manager10:50
codytkubuntu uses KDE10:50
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Supranothats the only difference ?10:50
ForgeAuserm it says only root can do that!10:50
Supranook10:50
codytAs far as I know.10:50
ForgeAuscan I log in as root?10:50
ForgeAusor maybe SU10:50
ForgeAusI dunno the password tho10:51
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codytuse sudo.10:51
ForgeAusok um now whats the mountpoint?10:51
True_Friendthey use two different desktop enviroments10:51
True_Friendubuntu uses Gnome(www.gnome.org)10:51
ForgeAusI know the dev I need a place to put it10:52
True_FriendKubuntu uses KDE(www.kde.org)10:52
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Supranoyea i got you. Ty10:52
ForgeAusunder /mnt ??10:52
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codytForgeAus, usually.10:52
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codytusually under /mnt, yes.10:52
ForgeAushmm it says special device /hdb1 does not exist10:52
codyt/mnt/hdb is where I mount my second HD10:52
codyt./hdb1 or /dev/hdb1?10:53
ForgeAushmm in fact no HD's seem to exist to it!10:53
ForgeAuserm /dev/hdb1 should work10:53
ForgeAusand your right its /dev/hdb110:53
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codytThat might  not be the particular partition your looking for, though.10:54
ForgeAusum does sata change things?... I have a sata drive10:54
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codytMine's hdb310:54
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codytOh10:54
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codytYeah, I forget what it is though.10:54
ForgeAusthe partition I'm trying to mount isn't the sata one tho10:54
codythang on10:54
codytOh.10:54
ForgeAusit should find HDD2 (standard IDE drive with 3 partitions on it)10:55
ForgeAus(HDD1 is sata)10:55
ForgeAusso hdb1 should refer to it???10:55
ForgeAusHDB2 is partition 2 right?10:55
ForgeAusgrr /dev/hdb110:55
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Grumpfwhat should i check/do if kubuntu does not want to connect to the internet (wired connection to Router)10:56
ForgeAushda1 is ntfs10:56
codytI think hdb1 would be the first partition, not sure.10:56
ForgeAusum kubuntu doesn' thave netconfig... um Grumpf, probably try wresling with system settings network10:57
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codytoh10:57
codytthis says it's /dev/sda110:57
ForgeAus(you'll need your root password in adminstrator mode)10:57
ForgeAussda?10:57
codytfor the sata10:57
ForgeAusok... so does that make the other ide drive hda?10:57
ForgeAusnot hdb?10:57
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codytif hda exists and hdb does not.10:58
codytls /dev | grep -i hd10:58
ForgeAusneither seem to10:58
ForgeAusgrrr10:58
ForgeAusnothing10:59
Grumpfok.. systemsettings networking sees eth0 with ip adress 192.168.1.3, which is declared active...10:59
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codyttry that with sd instead of hd10:59
ForgeAuswhoa10:59
codytnote: sda is also USB.10:59
ForgeAussda sda110:59
ForgeAussdb10:59
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ForgeAussdb110:59
ForgeAussdb210:59
ForgeAussdb310:59
ForgeAussdb510:59
ForgeAusttysdb10:59
codytdefinately not ttysdb11:00
ForgeAusgrr ttysd sorry11:00
codytmy USB thumb drive is /dev/sda1.11:00
ForgeAusdamn!11:01
codytdamn?11:01
ForgeAussdb1 and sdb5 are right11:01
ForgeAusthey're the ones it wants11:01
ForgeAusbut how do I mount BOTH instead of both under /mnt/ 's root?11:01
ForgeAusdo I have to create directories?11:01
ForgeAusso mkdir /mnt/sdb111:01
ForgeAusthen mount it in there?11:01
codytYou should create subdirectors of .. yes.11:01
codytlike that.11:01
ForgeAusgrr permission denied.. sudo right?11:02
codytyep11:02
popanowelyup11:02
codytis the liveCD on the net?11:02
ForgeAusyes11:02
ForgeAusI'm using it right now11:02
ForgeAusto Konversation with you11:02
codytah.11:02
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ForgeAushow do I unmount?11:03
ForgeAusuh oh11:03
ForgeAusI did something bad!11:03
ForgeAuswhile mounted I mkdir'd to /mnt/ ... did that add it to the fat drive instead of a new mount drectory?11:04
ForgeAuseven worse I mounted under them!11:04
Grumpfstrange.. i have an ip adress, but even pinging my router fails *grr11:04
ForgeAusGrumpf... some routers are like that11:04
ForgeAuswhat kinda device is it?11:04
codytwait, what?11:04
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ForgeAuscodyt with something mounted (not sure which one sdb1 or 5)...11:04
ForgeAusin /mnt11:05
codyt./mnt is in RAM.11:05
ForgeAusI made a directory /mnt/sdb1 and sdb5 to mount into there11:05
GrumpfTRENDnet TEW-231BRP11:05
codytLiveCDs don't use the hard drive.11:05
ForgeAusoh ok so it doesn't alter hte fs?11:05
codytno, you should be fine.11:05
ForgeAusits just a vfs?11:05
Grumpfbut it works fine with my desktop pc and windows^^11:05
ForgeAuswhat if I want it to modify the HDD?11:05
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ForgeAusmounting doesn't do that?11:05
codytmounting doesn't modify it11:06
codytbut it does give you access to modify it.11:06
ForgeAuscan I unmount anyway11:06
ForgeAusits kinda confusing how I had it11:06
cntb\o how do I add new group in GUI ? in System settings11:06
codytonce you mount it, you're able to read, write,  and navigate through the HD.11:06
ForgeAusso when I did mkdir did it make the directry in ram or on the HDD?11:07
codytmkdir /mnt/sdb5 would make it in RAM.11:07
cntbfound group creating in GUI np11:08
codytunless of course, if you had mounted a device to /mnt11:08
codytand then issued the mkdir command.11:08
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codytthat would make "sdb5" on the mounted device.11:08
codytwhich would be eraseable, and wouldn't actually damage anything.11:09
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codytForgeAus, when you want to unmount, use the command "umount /mnt/sdb5" or even "umount /dev/sdb5"11:12
codytplace sdb5 as needed11:12
codytreplace**11:12
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menahey friends i had made a folder through this sudo mkdir /media/Work_J.................how to remoce it11:14
menaremove*11:14
menaany one plz11:14
codytmena,11:14
menayes11:14
codytis anything mounted to it?11:15
codytor inside of it?11:15
menano11:15
codytsudo rmdir /media/Work_J11:15
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menaokay thanks very much11:15
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[nige] is it possible to map the windows key to popup the kubuntu menu11:16
codytmena, you can use "man -k <description>" to search for commands by description11:16
Grumpfany other suggestions for my wired connection problem?11:16
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menaok11:16
codytlike "man -k remove" would match any commands that have the word "remove" in the description.11:17
codytthen "man <command>" to get the manual for that command.11:17
menaokay cool11:17
menagood11:17
premier_hey guys, I got mplayer to play embedded media on websites like .wav and stuff11:18
menathanks i saw it its very helpful11:18
premier_but it wont loop them... it will only play them once11:18
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cntbfailed to tune k3b to my burner going nero windows BBL11:22
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matthew0507!iso11:26
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matthew0507!ntfs11:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:27
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codyt!MD511:29
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows11:29
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matthew0507!ntfs-3g11:37
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)11:37
matthew0507!iso11:38
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn11:38
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matthew0507is there a graphical app. to mount iso images?11:38
Linux_Galorematthew0507: thats a rather hard method for a newbie considering konqueror can do it11:38
matthew0507how would i do that in konqueror? when i click on the iso file i get an 'open with..' box11:39
Linux_Galorematthew0507: well I just right click and a mount option pops up11:40
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ForgeAusis there an iso: kioslave?11:40
ForgeAusthat'd fix matthew11:40
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matthew0507so i should install kioslave using adapt? theres no mount option for me to right click atm11:41
ForgeAusum how about nero?11:41
ForgeAusttheres nero for linux right?11:41
ForgeAuscould open an iso in that??? maybe???11:41
Linux_Galorematthew0507: yeah, it must be a kioslav , I just right click->actions-> manage iso -> mount iso11:42
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Linux_GaloreForgeAus: dont need nero to mount an iso11:42
matthew0507cool, i found this gisomount package, i might give it a try11:42
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menadey friends do i need anti-virus11:43
menahey*11:43
Linux_Galoremena: no11:43
menaokay but what if i dowenload a file or get a file wich is infected and i domt know11:44
Linux_Galoremena: so you download an infected file how it it going to run11:44
ForgeAusinfected?11:45
menaoh yea11:45
ForgeAusyou have a virus?11:45
ForgeAusunder linux?11:45
Linux_Galoremena: Linux doesnt allow user space apps into system space11:45
menabut it will take a space right11:45
menaohhh okay11:45
menathanks for your help11:45
Linux_Galoremena: thats why you have things like sudo, its to seperate things11:45
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menayea11:46
menaright11:46
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Linux_Galoremena: the worst you can do it ruin you users home directory if you run stuff, thats why you always avoid using sudo with third party stuff11:46
Linux_Galoreis*11:46
Linux_Galoremena: if you mess up the users home directory you can just delete it11:47
menaokay11:47
menano need to firewall right11:47
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Linux_Galoremena: no you dont need a firewall unless your running a service really, there is a simple one you can use though just in case type   apt-get install firestarter11:49
Linux_Galoresorry  sudo apt-get install firestarter11:49
Linux_Galoremena: looks a bit like zonealarm11:50
menaokay11:50
_Zeraki looked at feisty but it didnt say anything about fixing double sound cards like the developers had been talking about. Anyone know anything about it?11:50
Linux_Galoremena: its very easy to use and tells you when people are scanning your machine11:50
Linux_Galore_Zerak: yeah there is a trick with asound  to define the default sound card11:51
menaGreat it seems to be very good ...i will try it11:51
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_Zerakyes i know and it worked for a week then stopped for a week and worked the week after that and then it stopped working again, and since11:52
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Linux_Galore_Zerak: type  sudo -i   then login  then  asound list11:52
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Linux_Galore_Zerak: it should show all your sound cards11:53
_Zerakactually asoundconf =)11:53
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Linux_Galore_Zerak: then you just select one and type  asoundconf set-default-card <whatever>11:53
Linux_Galore_Zerak: yeah sorry  asoundconf list11:54
_Zerakyes done that 100 times11:54
_Zerakbut not working11:54
Linux_Galore_Zerak: the exact text11:54
_Zeraktook me 5 hours to learn that command, 2 months ago11:54
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menaokay thanks Linux_Galore thanks very mush ....... i really asked this qusetion befor but you make it more clear to mee thanks again11:54
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_Zerakwont do anything11:54
menaBy all11:55
Linux_Galore_Zerak: it has to be the exact test of what asoundconf list   shows11:55
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menaGod Bless11:55
Linux_Galoretext*11:55
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Linux_Galoremena: your welsome11:55
menathanks ..bye11:55
_Zerakasoundconf set-default-card CA0106      // Common card, you probably seen it11:55
_Zerakbut hey, i dont really trust kubuntu since it uninstalled X when i ran Wine11:56
Linux_Galore_Zerak: yeah, does alsamixer show it11:56
Linux_Galore_Zerak: thats why you always read the details11:56
Linux_Galore_Zerak: if you read the details before allowing adept to go ahead you would see its going to remove X11:57
_Zerakalsamixer has it as deafult for root/sudo but not default as user11:57
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_Zerakwhen running an app with wine, 2 times without failiure and on third time uninstalling X11:57
Linux_Galore_Zerak: what does kcontrol show in the user account11:58
_Zerakdoubt it seriously11:58
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Linux_Galore_Zerak: wine doesn unisntall X11:58
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_Zerakcan toggle between both but that is kmix11:58
Linux_Galoreuninstall *11:58
_Zerakdid for me, crashed and during the crash X was removed11:58
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Linux_Galore_Zerak: sounds more like a corruption11:59
_Zerakwas about to give up when i found someone on the web mention it11:59
Linux_Galore_Zerak: for wine to corrupt X you must run it as "root" because wine has no "write" permissions for system files under a user11:59
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Tobias_heya :)12:00
Linux_Galorehai Tobias_12:00
_Zerakdidnt run it as root however i gave it higher priority as root12:00
Tobias_what torrent program is the best for kubuntu?12:00
Linux_Galore_Zerak: Im very wary of wine because most of the stuff people run is buggy crap12:00
Tobias_I love wine12:00
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LynoureTobias_: How do you define "best"? Ktorrent works fine for me.12:00
_Zerakif we go back to sound, chaning as sudo doesnt change for the user, which sound card12:01
ForgeAusktorrent ntorrent... hmmm12:01
Linux_GaloreTobias_: ktorrent is ok for one of things, more complex downloads I use azureus12:01
ForgeAustorrentmania!12:01
Tobias_ktorrent started working very bad lately, it stopped saving the config file too, so it saves the downloads and temporary files in my home folder instead of on the disk with all the space12:01
Linux_GaloreTobias_: what version12:01
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Tobias_lemme check12:01
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Linux_GaloreTobias_: type ktorrent --version12:02
Tobias_might it be because it gets automatically updated?12:02
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Tobias_1.212:02
Linux_GaloreTobias_: Im running ktorrent Ver 2.1beta212:02
Tobias_aha12:02
Linux_GaloreTobias_: no wonders its an old buggy ver 112:03
_ZerakLinux_Galore: chaning as sudo doesnt change for the user, which sound card it shall use as default and if i have understood correctly, changing with kmix to the other wont change default either12:03
Tobias_that sounds like a whole different version :)12:03
Tobias_why dont they put it in adept?12:03
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Tobias_how do i get 2.1?12:03
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Tobias_is there a compository?12:03
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Linux_GaloreTobias_: well edgy has 2.03 , my personal repo has 2.1bet212:04
LynoureTobias_: even dapper has 2.0.312:04
Tobias_aha12:04
Tobias_I use dapper12:04
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Tobias_am I using an old kubuntu maybe12:04
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Linux_GaloreTobias_: aaah there is thing on the kubuntu home page to update the kde stuff to 3.5.512:04
Linux_GaloreTobias_: there is a dapper repo12:05
Tobias_I think I use kde 3.5.212:05
Linux_GaloreTobias_: have to go back a bit its not on the main page12:05
Sharketorhello12:05
Tobias_oki12:05
Sharketorplease  need help12:05
Tobias_thanks12:05
Tobias_Ill get it12:05
Tobias_:)12:05
SharketorI change my dns editing file /etc/resolv.conf12:06
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Sharketorbut when I connect, the old dns return12:06
Sharketorwhy?12:06
SharketorI can't change dns?????12:06
Linux_GaloreSharketor: yes, changing it wont take effect straight away you have to reset your network12:06
Sharketorcould you explain what I have to do?12:07
Linux_GaloreSharketor: if your using dhcp the dns is set by the router12:07
Sharketorno router, modem12:07
Sharketorusb12:07
Linux_GaloreSharketor: change the setting then reboot12:07
SharketorI have already tried it, without success12:08
Sharketorthe old dns return just I connect12:08
Tobias_how do I install a .deb file?12:08
SharketorTobias_: double clic on it12:08
Tobias_cool12:09
Tobias_thanx12:09
Tobias_will it update my ktorrent then by itself?12:09
SharketorI think so12:09
Tobias_I shouldnt uninstall it in adept first?12:09
SharketorLinux_Galore: have you no solution?12:09
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SharketorTobias_: no12:09
Tobias_oki12:09
Tobias_kool12:09
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Linux_GaloreSharketor: aah, kubuntu has a setup thing for that, run sudo systemsettings12:10
michaelpohi.. i just installed ubuntu6.06... how do i make a shutdown button? at the moment i need to click the power icon.. then select shutdown at the login screen... how do i make a shutdown button?12:10
SharketorLinux_Galore: then?12:11
Linux_GaloreSharketor: click on the Network settings icon12:11
Linux_GaloreSharketor: the rest is obvious12:11
Sharketorok12:12
Sharketormmmhhhh, already tried12:12
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Linux_GaloreSharketor: so you added your own dns stuff under the Domain tab12:12
Tobias_what does it mean when I click the .deb file and it says "sorry, the tool is not in your path"?12:13
Tobias_what tool and what path?12:13
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Linux_GaloreSharketor: if you want to manually set all that you need a static connection12:14
michaelpohi.. i just installed ubuntu6.06... how do i make a shutdown button? at the moment need 2 steps.. i need to click the power icon.. then select shutdown at the login screen... how do i make a one-click shutdown button?12:14
mineurmichaelpo: add a non kde application which is linked to shutdown -P12:14
mineurmake it: sudo shutdown -P12:14
Linux_GaloreSharketor: so your connection should show "Manual" for the account12:15
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michaelpoi dont know how to make a application... how? is there a shortcut like windows?12:15
mineuryou want it on the bottom-bar right?12:15
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swanfldoes anyone here dual boot kubuntu and windows?12:16
Lynoureswanfl: yes.12:16
swanflusing grub?12:16
michaelpocan be anywhere... bottom, top, or on the desktop...12:16
Lynoureswanfl: yes.12:16
mineurright click on the bottom bar, add application to panel12:16
mineurthere select non kde application12:16
swanflok Lynoure I am trying to set up the grub menu.list12:16
mineurlink it to shutdown and as arguments -P12:17
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Lynoureswanfl: It should work nicely, this did out of the box :)12:17
mineurgive it a nice titel and description and you're set... only thing is, the icon will look like a gear...12:17
swanflI already know since my windows partition is hda1 the root is 0,012:17
mineurand I don't know how to change that12:17
swanflwhat other entries are necessary in the windows "section"?12:18
Linux_Galorethere is an applet you can add to the taskbar called  kshutdown12:18
mineurah easier :d12:18
mineurdidn't know of all the applets :d12:18
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michaelposudo shutdown -p ? lower or capital?12:18
mineurcapital, but michaelpo look at what Linux_Galore said... there's an applet I didn't know the existence of :-)12:19
Linux_Galoreyeah  sudo apt-get install kshutdown12:19
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Linux_Galoremichaelpo:   sudo apt-get install kshutdown12:19
Linux_Galoremichaelpo: or run adept from the menu and look for kshutdown   and install it12:19
Linux_Galoreoops12:19
KomiaPoikawhen i do wget http://www.some website/faq , it just downloads the whole website. how can i get wget to only download the right dir?12:20
michaelpokshutdown is for kde or gnome? i'm using ubuntu6.0612:20
mineurkshutdown is for kde...12:20
swanflLynoure, I have root (hd0,0), makeactive, and chainloader +1. any other lines necessary?12:20
Linux_Galore k = kde  G = Gnome12:20
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Linux_Galoreusually, but not always12:20
mineurbut I guess there is something similar for gnome... better ask in #ubuntu then12:20
mineurI'm a kde fan :)12:21
michaelpono response at #ubuntu12:21
Linux_Galorectrl alt backspace shoult trigger the shutdown option12:21
codytI do like gnome, but I prefer kde12:21
Linux_Galoreoops sorry ctrl alt del  sorry12:21
codyteven though I have some gripes about kde too.12:21
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mineurcodyt: you know of a similar applet for gnome then?12:22
Tobias_in what repository do I find ktorrent, the newest version?12:22
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mineurmichaelpo: there's always my first solution then... maybe in gnome you can give it a nice looking icon :)12:22
michaelpowhy so much trouble to shutdown ubuntu?12:22
Linux_Galoremineur: you can drop the shutdown option in the gnome menu right on the desktop or the taskbar12:22
Linux_Galoreshrug, its in the menu how hard can it be12:23
mineurmichaelpo: as far as I know it's as easy in gnome as in kde...12:23
zerakLinux_Galore still wondering like you said, when chaning for sudo it doesnt change for users. Changing sound card that is and when i try doing it for users nothing happens12:24
Linux_Galoremineur: true, both gnome and kde have a shutdown option in the main menu12:24
michaelpoubuntu gnome need 2 clicks... one click.. then wait a few sec... then options for 2nd click...12:24
Linux_Galorezerak: sounds like a permissions conflict12:24
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KomiaPoikatoo many clicks12:24
michaelpooh... found out the power icon is called quit12:24
Lynoureswanfl: if you want help, please do not target me at the moment. I just said I installed dapper and after that dual boot was painless for me12:25
michaelpothere is no shutdown button...12:25
swanflok, thanks12:25
mineurthere's a logout button...12:25
Linux_GaloreKomiaPoika: 2 clicks, you dont want a single click shutdown on a deskop, thats suicide12:25
Lynoureswanfl: I'm too busy at the moment to dig into grub problems, though normally I might.12:25
mineurdepends... maybe he wants to use it as a hide the porn button lol j/k :d12:25
Linux_Galorejust install the kshutdown applet in kde, gnome must have something similar12:25
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KomiaPoikai want shutdown available by pressing left shift twice in a row :)12:26
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mineurKomiaPoika: ???? why?????????????? that would definatly be suicide for me lol12:27
mineurI go with the kde menu :d12:27
Linux_Galoreubuntu should trigger a shutdown with ctrl alt del  anyway12:27
michaelpothere is a porn button? why need to hide it?12:27
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michaelpoctrl alt del... nothing happens....12:27
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swanflcan anyone help me set up menu.list for dual booting Windows and Linux?12:28
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zerakswanfl didnt it do that automaticly when you installed kubuntu12:28
Linux_Galoreif you want to find apps for gnome poke around  www.gnome-apps.org12:29
swanflno, zerak as I installed kububtu 1st. I did however set up a partition for Windows 200012:29
michaelpocan i use kshutdown in ubuntu?12:29
Linux_Galoremichaelpo: no reason why not12:29
Linux_Galoremichaelpo: you can use kde stuff in gnome and vice versa12:29
mineuryou can, but the applet probably won't integrate nicely in gnome, and it will make you install some dependencies12:29
Linux_Galoremichaelpo: even applets12:30
swanflall I need are the entries for Windows 2000 in menu.list12:30
mineurare kde applets compatible with gnome?12:30
mineurcool :)12:30
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codytmk fan, kano?12:31
Kanosure12:32
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swanflzerak,  I have root (hd0,0), makeactive, and chainloader +1. from what I've seen, should the line saying root actually say rootnoverify?12:33
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zeraki got "makeactive" too12:33
michaelpoyikes... kshutdown is downloading 11 files12:34
zerakonly root12:34
mineurtold you... dependencies :d12:34
AyabaraI just removed kdevelope, but it is still in the menu. how can I delete it from there. Is there a way to run a consistency check on my "start menu"?12:34
zeraklooks like it12:34
Linux_GaloreAyabara: log out12:34
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zerakswanfl dont know, seem like yoi got most of it12:34
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AyabaraLinux_Galore, ahh. ok12:35
anoukhallo12:35
escdoes the home button in konqeror-as-browser always open up to your home directory..? or is that just me?12:35
escI want it to open up in my home page...12:35
mineuresc: probably configurable12:35
anoukenlish12:35
swanflzerak, what windows distro do you have? also, what does your menu.list file have for Windows?12:35
Linux_Galorequick answer to the previos question, how do you mount ISO's easily,  install kiso  then konqueror will allow you to mount any iso file on the fly12:36
anoukhallo fuck you12:36
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escmineur: any idea?12:36
mineuresc: konqueror settings... home url...12:36
anouklieke_22_90@hotmail.com12:36
mineurchange the ~ to http://whatever12:36
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anoukhallo praat een mongolen12:37
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jendaAnyone got a spare opinion or two? :)12:37
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Linux_Galorejenda: I can spare a few12:37
mineurAnouk.... je bent echt niet stoer12:37
AyabaraLinux_Galore, logging out/in didn't help :-/12:37
jendaI need some feedback on http;//diy.devubuntu.com/kubuntu.png12:37
swanflI have tons of opinions jenda, what about? :)12:37
anouknerelander hier ???12:37
jendaThat'll go out to print, about 1500 times.12:37
Linux_GaloreAyabara: just edit the menu then12:38
mineuresc: found it?12:38
michaelpoyikes... 10mb to shutdown?12:38
Linux_GaloreAyabara: right click on the menu button Edit Menu12:38
escyeah I found it...just testing right now brb12:38
mineurmichaelpo: that's just the dependencies... kshutdown is a kde app so it needs qt, and some stuff :)12:38
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Linux_GaloreAyabara: sorry "Menu Editor"12:38
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AyabaraLinux_Galore, thanks. says "Edit Menus" here12:39
mineurif you're not using any other kde apps... that might be some overkill just to shutdown yeah :)12:39
michaelpois koffice using odf?12:39
mineurno idea I use openoffice12:39
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Linux_GaloreAyabara: yeah, I think they changed it, for some stupid reason it says Menu Edit  on mine12:39
michaelpokoffice is default in kubuntu?12:39
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Linux_Galoremichaelpo: no12:40
mineurno, it's openoffice12:40
Linux_Galorealthough koffice is nice if you want to edit stuff,  openoffice is a bit over the top for many things12:40
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mineurnano to edit things hehe12:41
Linux_Galorekoffice = very fast12:41
php-freakaint' there like a ctrl alt delete12:41
php-freakon kubunut12:41
php-freakor a way to end process12:41
Jucatophp-freak: Ctrl+Esc12:41
Linux_Galorephp-freak: yes, depends on your hardware/bios12:41
mineurphp-freak: kill processid12:41
escmineur: doesnt help.  I can either have konq-as-browser open it's home as /home/esc/ .... or konq-as-file-manag open it's open as www.google.com12:41
jendaSo, no opinions?12:41
jendahm?12:41
Jucatophp-freak: or Ctrl+Alt+Esc then click on the window that hung up12:41
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Linux_Galoreesc: true, konqueror has two modes, file or browser, but not both at the same time12:42
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Linux_Galoreesc: well not in the same tab anyway12:42
mineurhmmm but the home always points to one location no?12:43
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Linux_Galoremineur: yeah. home can be set to whatever you want12:43
Linux_Galoremineur: if i wanted a monolithic bloated closed source bitch I would wast lots of money on opera yes12:43
phed_hi12:44
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Linux_Galoremineur: how do I compile opera so as to remove all the crap like IRC ??12:44
mineuropera is free :)12:44
escso basically, I can set konq-as-browser to open up to www.google.com, but when I click the home button it *will only* show my home directory not my home page (google.com)?12:44
mineuryou don't :)12:45
Linux_Galoremineur: air is free in new york doesnt mean its good12:45
mineurI don't say it's good because it's free... but by using it you're not wasting money... same goes with open source, it's not good because it's free or open source :)12:45
mineurthere's alor of crap open source wandering around :)12:46
administradoris it possible to place free phone calls using erika12:46
Linux_Galoremineur: when opera becomes FOSS and removes all the crap they have been adding that isnt needed i may look at it12:46
mineurhehe, imho it's a very good browser :)12:46
Riddelljenda: what's that for?12:46
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escI really want to like konq as a browser...but this home issue is driving me away12:46
Linux_Galoremineur: the problem is Opera isnt a browser anymore, its a network suite12:47
jendaRiddell: printing - case badges.12:47
jendaRiddell: lots12:47
phed_Linux_Galore: Everybody needs C64 skin12:47
jendaRiddell: for expos and pretty much anyone who wants them.12:47
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Riddelljenda: do I get one? :)12:47
ReneAltais it possible to place free phone calls using erika?12:47
Linux_Galoremineur: I dont want a monolithic closed source network suite I want a "very good browser"12:47
mineurtrue, but it's pretty configurable so that none of the extra's bother :)12:47
jendaRiddell: you get as many as you wish, for the right price ;)12:47
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jendaRiddell: it's about $0.3 apiece, including shipping12:48
mineurof course... and to me konqueror isn't a very good browser :d12:48
jendaRiddell: USD - but no less than 10 pieces.12:48
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Linux_Galoremineur: Opera are just going down the same stupid path Mozilla did before they realised people wanted a "browser" not all the other crap12:48
jendaRiddell: they'll probably be available as prizes for the weekly quiz in #ubuntu-trivia, too :)12:48
mineurmight be... but I'm still a fan :)12:49
phed_how about an opensource monolith?12:49
wolfwalkerI'm beginning to get a bit ticked off here. Can someone help me?12:49
Linux_Galoremineur: also Opera doesnt intergrate with anything other than "opera"12:49
michaelpoyikes it just turned into 12mb... for kshutdown in ubuntu12:49
phed_it is certainly faster than most browsers anyway12:49
mineuryay another opera fan :d12:49
phed_not a opera fan12:49
mineur:p12:49
phed_i am betting on none of the horses12:49
mineurwell not a hater then? :)12:49
phed_nah12:49
Linux_GaloreOpera can suck my wang12:50
phed_not happy till i see something render html with opengl12:50
escI dont like opera either. I love firefox, but not so much on kde12:50
mineurLinux_Galore: that's what I hate about konqueror... it integrates way too much :)12:50
Linux_Galoremineur: but at least it "does" opera is just wated disk space with no "open api" so nothing can work with it12:51
wolfwalkerI'm trying to get my Linux computer online (I'm on my Windoze computer now) but no luck. Someone gave me a link to linux drivers for my particular modem. The package came as a .tar.bz2 file. So now what do I do with it?12:51
Linux_Galorewasted*12:51
mineurI can work with it, good enough for me :)12:52
Linux_Galoremineur: a browser should "work with other applications" not be some monolithic stand alone heading for bloatville app12:52
ReneAltais it possible to place free phone calls using erika??12:52
escwolfwalker untar it12:52
ReneAltaHow do I do it?12:52
wolfwalkerI did, I uncompressed it12:52
mineurbut I clearly see you have issues with Opera... :d12:52
michaelpoomg... 20mb for kshutdown...12:52
wolfwalkerNow what?12:52
escare the drivers in the repos, first?12:53
Linux_Galoremineur: opera doesnt enhance my desktop, in fact it makes it more cluttered because ti "doesnt work with anything"12:53
mineurlol michaelpo I told you... we all told you... there a reprobably gnome applets for the same thing... but I don't know crap about gnome... :)12:53
wolfwalker|esc:| I don't know12:53
Linux_Galoreyeah, gnome has its own version or karamba12:53
escyou should check there first12:53
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wolfwalker|esc:| I'm not sure what to look for and where to look. I'm kinda new to linux12:54
escwhat are you trying to install?12:54
dennisterhowdy folks...just looking for someone :)12:54
wolfwalkerUSB drivers for my modem12:54
mineurlol Linux_Galore you made your point... and you do have a point, but none of your opinions is enough for me to throw it out of the window... it does what I want it to do... and it does it really good, imho :)12:54
escwolfwalker: can you be more specific?12:55
mineurI'm off for food12:55
escmake/model12:55
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wolfwalkerAhhh12:55
wolfwalker|esc:| It's a Netopia modem, says on the back it's a Cayman 3300 series12:56
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escwireless?12:56
wolfwalker|esc:| I got this file someone directed me to usbatm-20050216.tar.bz212:56
michaelpoit is still halfway downloading.. can i change my mind and cancel?12:56
wolfwalkerI decompressed it and got these files12:56
wolfwalkerNo, not wireless12:56
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escwhat kind of modem is it?12:57
wolfwalkercxacru.c Kbuild Kconfig usbatm.c usbatm.h12:58
escasdl, ethernet...?12:58
wolfwalkerThose are the files I got12:58
escpppp?12:58
wolfwalkerIt's a DSL connection, ethernet and usb options for connect between computer and modem12:58
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michaelpoit is still halfway downloading.. can i change my mind and cancel? will it delete the downloaded files?12:59
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wolfwalkerWhen I extracted the .tar file, I got cxacru.c Kbuild Kconfig usbatm.c usbatm.h Now what do I do with them?12:59
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oneSysinfo for 'one': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 2088 MHz (4180 bogomips), , RAM: 370/503MB, 107 proc's, 16.23h up01:01
escwolfwalker: I have no idea. the first thing you should do is search the ubuntuforums or other linux forums (try to stick with forums that are close to your disto - ubuntuforums kubuntuforums, whatever) and look for a guide.01:01
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wolfwalkerOh well01:02
escgetting a modem working is more than just installing a few files.01:02
eschttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=1303635801:02
wolfwalkerYeah, tell me about it01:02
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eschave you read the forums?01:02
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wolfwalkerI don't know about any forums, much less where they are and what to look for when I get there01:03
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wolfwalkerI'm kinda new to the whole Linux thing01:03
escclick on that link I just put up01:03
escand read around01:03
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escregister on the forums...and search for your modem. if there is nothing, start a new thread. someone has to know what to do.01:04
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michaelpoit is still halfway downloading.. can i change my mind and cancel? will it delete the downloaded files?01:04
esccontrol-c will cancel01:05
escand then do sudo apt-get clean if you want01:06
wolfwalkerWell, here's hoping01:06
wolfwalkerDanka01:06
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escif not, you can always buy an ethernet card for 20 bucks01:07
wolfwalkerIt has ethernet01:07
wolfwalkerIt doesn't work01:07
escone that is know to work. usb cards kind of suck01:07
michaelpoit will clean kshutdown specifically or clean my whole hdd?01:07
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escjust get a standard ethernet card01:07
wolfwalkerMy computer has an ethernet jack01:08
escso why not use that01:08
wolfwalkerWhen I tried the ethernet route, it didn't work01:08
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escwhat happened?01:08
wolfwalkerSaid it couldn't access the modem's access concentrator01:08
rag1hi01:08
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escwhat said that01:08
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wolfwalkerWhen I ran pppoeconf01:08
wolfwalkerIt scanned the ethernet port01:09
wolfwalkerThen said it couldn't access the modem's access concentrator01:09
rag1If i can, i wanna ask you a question about kubuntu vs partition table01:09
rjaltagraciaAnybody has any experience with VoIP01:09
escwolfwalker : I really have no idea. never used DSL or your cards before. like I said before, check out the ubuntuforums and kubuntuforums. you'll find plenty of info there and many helpful people.01:10
escgood luck01:10
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michaelpoaiks... it's done... i have kshutdown in my menu.... i will keep it....01:12
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zorglu_q. any eclipse user on edgy around ? i run eclipse on ubuntu dapper and got a large memory leak when using eclipse, like 80mbyte every hour. i would like to know if people using edgy experience it too ?01:13
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zorglu_or feisty01:13
animimotushi01:14
animimotuskalarm will be backported to Edgy http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9966 ?01:14
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animimotusif a motu know it01:18
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Hobbseeanimimotus: unlikely01:22
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animimotusHobbsee: and integrated to Feisty ?01:23
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Hobbseeanimimotus: if it's in kde 3.5.601:24
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michaelpohi01:24
michaelpohow do i use kshutdown?01:25
michaelpowhen i click it, it go into configuration....'01:25
animimotusHobbsee: but in universe or multiverse, the condition are the same ?01:25
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Hobbseeanimimotus: yes.  the package is in main, anyway01:25
codytGot a new DVDRW drive today, but it's very slow to respond when ripping or burning, any ideas?01:26
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animimotusHobbsee: in fact I don't understand really how I packet is integrated in the deposit chain. Perhaps a url can explain the process?01:28
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KomiaPoikaanimimotus: should be alone and master on its nap01:28
Hobbsee!components01:29
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:29
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Hobbseeanimimotus: ^ ?01:29
AL9000Guys I broke apt :( http://pastebin.ca/32145701:29
nate_google video in kubuntu?01:29
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Kanohi, is there a package for  h264 (avc)01:29
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AL9000This may have been a bad time to ask because I think I'm about to be taken away.01:29
animimotusHobbsee: thank you01:29
AL9000><01:29
nate_how can i run a login manager on edgy01:30
HobbseeAL9000: acutally, you broke python-central01:30
nate_gdm dosnt work, it says alsorts of things01:30
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HobbseeAL9000: want me to file a bug on that?01:30
AL9000Please.01:30
AL9000Also fix it :>01:30
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AL9000It was a direct result of apt-get install k3d01:31
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animimotusHobbsee: and does it exist a roadmap for the components integration?01:32
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hakanuselamlar01:33
Hobbseeanimimotus: perhaps wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources01:33
Hobbseeyou're looking for main inclusion reports01:33
AL9000How can I remove k3d without running the pre-removal script?01:34
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hakanutrke bilen birileri varm acaba01:34
AL9000Or alternative solution.01:34
KanoRiddell: dont you think it is using external ffmpeg now and that has it disabled?01:34
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ForgeAuspre-removal?01:34
AL9000http://pastebin.ca/321457 <--  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 101:35
levi__anyone here use glftpd?01:35
HobbseeAL9000: i'm not sure how you can remove that.  short of removing python-central01:35
AL9000Hmm01:35
AL9000That would somewhat remove my entire installation :x01:36
HobbseeAL9000: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/8058801:36
Hobbseeyes, i suspected as much01:36
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AL9000Can I get apt and/or dpkg to just ignore it for now?01:37
Hobbseewell, you can install it again, i would think01:37
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AL9000Its post-installation script fails in the same way as its pre-removal script.01:38
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zorglu_!feisty01:38
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+101:38
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HobbseeAL9000: damn01:39
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dominikacze, suchajcie, zainstalowaam Winshita na 8 partycji koo Kubuntu. Windows na 1 partycji (100MB) zaisntalowa swj program startowy. No wic wywaliam go (sformatowaam pierwsz partycj na ext3) i zainstalowaam tak GRUBA. Kubuntu si uruchamia, ale nie wiem co dopisa do konfiguracji by uruchomic Winshita. Pomoecie?01:42
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zorglu_!pl | dominika01:44
ubotudominika: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl01:44
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nate_how do i kill a app thats froze01:48
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Ash-Foxctrl alt escape01:49
KomiaPoikaps ax|grep appname01:49
Ash-Foxthen click it01:49
KomiaPoikaand kill appname01:49
KomiaPoikaman kill01:50
ForgeAusfile type iso9660 is that iso the same as a CD iso?01:50
zorglu_ForgeAus: yes01:51
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Chousukea CD "iso" is an image of the CD, and CDs contain an iso9660 filesystem01:51
Ash-FoxForgeAus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_966001:51
Chousukeso, yes.01:51
ForgeAusits ok01:51
nate_those keys didnt do anything01:51
nate_im in edgy01:51
nate_if that helpds01:51
ForgeAusI was just checking I'm used to them being called iso I don't pay attention ot the numbers thats all01:51
Ash-Foxnate_, work fine here, ctrl alt escape, and I click the application I want to kill.01:52
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Ash-FoxYou get a little skull and bones as the cursor when you do it usually01:52
nate_ok it came up01:52
Ash-FoxSo click the application window with it?01:52
ForgeAushmmm that didn't work01:53
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nate_theres alot of things running01:53
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Ash-Foxnate_, bring the program you want to kill to the front, hit ctrl alt escape then click it.01:53
ForgeAuswhats wrong with this? sudo mount -t iso9660 RIPLinuxX.iso /mnt/rip/ ???01:53
nate_yeh i did that, it came up but beryl made it transparent lol01:54
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ForgeAusit said RIPLinuxX.iso is not a block device01:54
Ash-FoxForgeAus, you forgot -o loop01:54
ForgeAuswhats -o loop?01:54
Ash-Foxoption lookback device01:54
Ash-Foxfor more information, open man://mount in Konqueror01:54
Ash-Foxerr, sorry, man:/mount01:55
paolo_ Hi. is it possible, in linux, to manage how much virtual memory must reserved to a process?01:55
ForgeAusdamn I think I need to burn this to boot off of it01:55
paolo_ Hi. is it possible, in linux, to manage how much virtual memory must BE reserved to a process?01:55
Aarohican kubuntu packages be installed over ubuntu through the kubuntu CD?01:56
Ash-Foxpaolo_, I know it's possible on a per user basis. You could create a new user account and limit their user's memory usage then run the application under that username.01:56
Ash-FoxAarohi, yes, but you're better off starting from a fresh in my opinion.01:56
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Aarohithanks Ash-Fox01:56
paolo_Ash-Fox: and if you use a swap file, is it possible in general?01:57
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Ash-Foxpaolo_, linux uses swap partitions, you can create a loopback device (file) for swap to create a swap file.01:57
ForgeAusum does anyone have any experience with RIPLinuX?01:57
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ForgeAusis there a way to um... access the file system it runs? I can open the iso but that doesn't let me get to the vfs? filesystem it loads01:58
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Ash-FoxForgeAus, this is the help channel for Kubuntu, not RIPLinuX01:58
ForgeAusI'm not even sure where it loads it from!01:58
ForgeAuslol AshFox... good point01:58
paolo_Ash-Fox: so, in this case, if I use this file,  can i manage the virtual memory to reserve to a specified process?01:58
ForgeAusI'm in Kubuntu tho (trying to open it from inside there)01:58
Ash-Foxpaolo_, no.01:59
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ForgeAusbesides theres no #RIPLinuX channel01:59
ForgeAus(I know I just went there)01:59
paolo_why not Ash-Fox?01:59
Ash-Foxpaolo_, because I only know of a per user basis, not per process.01:59
Ash-Foxpaolo_, there maybe some 3rd party kernel module that does what you want, but I don't know of it. I would imagine those kernel modules generally exist for embedded linux.02:00
paolo_I see ash02:00
paolo_Ash-Fox: anyway, other people say that it's possible to limit the amount of ram used by a process02:01
Ash-Foxpaolo_, again I know it's possible per user.02:01
ForgeAusuh whats a cgz file?02:01
Ash-FoxForgeAus, file <filename>02:01
paolo_ok Ash-Fox02:02
ForgeAusAshFox its an extension02:02
Ash-FoxForgeAus, well I have no idea. But file could probably tell you more.02:02
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paolo_Ash-Fox: anyway, a work around would be launching a process with a specified user...02:02
paolo_right?02:03
Ash-Foxpaolo_, yes? Just run it as another user?..02:03
ForgeAusgzip compressed02:03
ForgeAusso its an archive like a .zip file.. interesting02:03
ForgeAusbut doesn't help me much02:03
paolo_Ash-Fox: why "?"02:03
Ash-Foxlike sudo -u username /path/to/application, or if it's a graphical one, kdesu -u username /path/to/application02:03
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ForgeAusunless you can mount a compressed file somehow02:03
Ash-FoxForgeAus, yes it does, it tells you it's a gzip file02:03
Ash-Foxark should be able to open it02:04
Ash-Fox(Comes with kubuntu preintalled)02:04
Ash-Fox*preinstalled02:04
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Ash-Foxpaolo_, what do you mean why?02:04
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paolo_Ash-Fox: you wrote   <Ash-Fox> paolo_, yes? Just run it as another user?..02:06
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paolo_was it a question? or the "?" appeared strangely?02:07
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Ash-FoxIt was a question, as in, why not run it as another user.02:08
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paolo_i see Ash-Fox02:09
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valchersHallo, I have problem whith kubuntu, I instaled ubuntu 6.06 and when I after finished restart computer I can`t login, There is information "root login is no allowed" nut in consols regime a can login02:11
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chuenHi. Anyone like to recommend their favourite printer that works well with Kubuntu?02:13
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Hobbsee!root | valchers02:13
ubotuvalchers: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:13
michaelpokshutdown did not work02:13
Ash-FoxWhat do you mean "did not work" ?02:14
michaelpoi dont know how to get kshutdown to work in ubuntu02:14
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Ash-FoxDid you install it?02:15
Ash-Fox!kshutdown02:15
michaelpoyes i did02:15
ubotukshutdown: an advanced shut down utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9~beta-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 261 kB, installed size 1000 kB02:15
Ash-FoxOkay, and you can't get it to work.. because/02:15
Ash-FoxWhat are you doing exactly?02:15
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michaelpoi just installed ubuntu6.0602:16
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michaelpoi just installed ubuntu6.06, when i want to shutdown, i click the quit button... then need to wait a while while it log me off... then i need to click the shutdown selection.... i just installed kshutdown.... how do I get it to work in ubuntu?02:18
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michaelpoAsh-Fox: i just installed ubuntu6.06, when i want to shutdown, i click the quit button... then need to wait a while while it log me off... then i need to click the shutdown selection.... i just installed kshutdown.... how do I get it to work in ubuntu?02:21
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Ash-FoxWell, you're not supposed choose 'quit' in kshutdown, it's 'Start [Return] '02:22
Ash-Fox*supposed to choose02:22
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michaelpowhat do i choose then?02:23
michaelpoyes i choose start02:23
Ash-FoxIf you're using the right click tray icon menu.. use anything above 'quit' todo your desired action02:23
michaelpothen a confirm window show up...02:24
michaelpothen i choose turn off computer....02:24
michaelponothing happened after that...02:24
Ash-FoxLet me check this02:25
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Ash-FoxJust imaged a fresh install of kubuntu.. updating..02:27
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Ash-FoxOkay, installing kshutdown then rebooting..02:28
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Ash-Foxmichaelpo, kshutdown is working perfectly here?02:30
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Ash-Foxmichaelpo, access settings -> check system configuration, any problems?02:31
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michaelpoi'm usung ubuntu... gnome02:33
michaelpoit seems that this is not a KDE full session02:34
michaelpoproblem 2: kde display manager is not running02:34
michaelpo3. you can customize actions to work with gdm02:34
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michaelpoproblem 4: if you have problem with the /sbin/shutdown commend... try to modify the /etc/shutdown.allow" file,02:35
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Ash-FoxWell, now you know the problems. You can decide what todo.02:37
michaelpoi dont know how to fix it02:38
michaelpohow do i modify the /etc/shutdown.allow file?02:38
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Ash-FoxIt wants you to run kdm, kde etc.02:38
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Ash-Foxsudo gkedit /etc/shutdown.allow I imagine02:38
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Ash-Foxerr gksudo gkedit /etc/shutdown.allow02:39
michaelpowhat do i edit in the shutdown.allow file?02:39
Ash-FoxYour problems aren't with shutdown.allow btw.02:39
Ash-FoxYou need to run kdm and KDE according to kshutdown.02:39
michaelpowhat's my problem?02:39
michaelpoit say i can use gdm....02:39
michaelpono?02:39
Ash-FoxI don't see anything in man:/kshutdown02:40
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Perunaanyone here using OSX style menu (File Edit ... ) in KDE ?02:41
Ash-FoxSorry, I can't really help with Gnome/GDM stuff, since I don't really use it that much. Beyond that, I rarely have the same applications running on the different DEs02:41
Ash-FoxPeruna, no, but I used to.02:42
Perunaoh just wonder if it's possible to make Firefox's menu to display there aswell02:42
Perunaright now it displays in the firefox window02:42
Ash-FoxFirefox doesn't use KDElibs, sorry.02:43
michaelpoAsh-Fox: thanks... kshutdown is good in kubuntu? one click shutdown?02:43
Perunaooh02:43
Ash-Foxmichaelpo, yep, working perfectly, I tested it.02:43
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michaelpoi dont like the click... wait... click... in ubuntu02:43
Perunaplease recommend me a good OSX-like dock panel :)02:44
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Ash-FoxPeruna, superkaramba has some nice widgets that look like OSX dock panels02:45
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Perunadoes it also dock them ?02:46
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PerunaI mean .. show that they are running02:46
Ash-FoxPeruna, you'll want to look on www.kde-look.org to find the different ones -- yes some do.02:46
Perunanice, ok02:46
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can I share my internet connection?02:48
rysiek|plhi all02:48
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stdinDjDarkman: install firestarter, that will allow you to setup connection sharing02:49
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rysiek|planybody any ideas on how to make a non-working function key on a laptop's keyboard to work with edgy? the key *does* work under windows, but it *does not* show up neither in xev, nor in dmesg02:49
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DjDarkmanyeah stdin ,but is there a kde solution for this?02:51
Ash-Fox!shortcuts02:51
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ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net02:52
stdinrysiek|pl: use keytouch and optionally keytouch keytouch-editor02:52
matthew0507im trying to use kiso to mount my iso images. but i get this message "You have to start Kiso in root first' , what does that mean?02:53
stdinDjDarkman: Connection sharing is done by the kernel, the apps are only a GUI, you can try guidedog to do it, bit I haven't tried it02:54
Perunaanyone here using Kopete ?02:54
stdinmatthew0507: maybe it means start as root (kdesu)02:54
matthew0507yea 'start as root', how do i do that with kdesu? what command do i type?02:55
Ash-FoxPeruna, I used to, but I started using Gaim because I was getting annoyed at the lack of working ignore and privacy settings.02:55
PerunaIn the main window, each toolbar has a handle is there a way to hide them ?02:55
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Ash-FoxHm, there might be a 'lock' toolbars option somewhere02:56
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stdinmatthew0507: probably "kdesu kiso"02:56
Perunaoh02:56
matthew0507stdin: ty, i'll give that a try02:56
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rysiek|plstdin: m'kay, testing02:57
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doc|no puedo instalar Feisty Herd 2, tengo problema con la particion03:02
stdin!fr03:03
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:03
doc|ok ok03:03
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Perunafor some reason my CPU is running at 1 Ghz only (max 1.8)03:12
Perunais it normal ?03:13
KomiaPoikano03:13
LynoureIt is if you have it throttled to that.03:14
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Perunano idea, just installed Kubuntu03:14
mineurPeruna: is it a laptop?03:15
Perunano, pc03:15
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oem_Hallo zusammen, kann mir jemand sagen wo ich bei Kubuntu KMail finde03:21
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mineur!de > oem_03:22
mineur!de03:22
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:22
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Peruna!fi03:26
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi03:26
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rysiek|plguys, has anyone experienced problems with beryl/fglrx (DRI not enabled, beryl cannot run) and beryl-settings (missing module: gtk, and after installing python2.5-gtk I get this: gobject.GError: Unrecognized image file format)?03:41
rysiek|pl...after the last update03:41
rysiek|plbefore the update beryl and beryl settings worked like a charm03:42
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ScarFreewill!cli|ScarFreewill03:46
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gnomefreakrysiek|pl: you need to install beryl-settings-bindings and it should work. this is if you are using the 2.0 beta03:47
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ScarFreewill!cli|ScarFreewill03:47
Kuser!cli | ScarFreewill03:47
wimpiesI want to set up the keyboard to qwerty US-Internaltiona (with EURO) but without having to strike two keys to have a ~ sign03:47
KuserScarFreewill: seems ubotu is sleeping :P03:48
gnomefreakrysiek|pl: also best place for beryl questions is in #ubuntu-xgl03:48
ScarFreewillKuser: yeah :$03:48
rysiek|plgnomefreak: thanks, forgot about that channel03:48
ubotuScarFreewill: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:48
Pekkedoes anybody have any ideas how to get my cd/dvdrom to work? i have "/media/cdrom0" directory, but nothing happens when i put cd in...03:49
dgiman03:49
Kuserheh, he woke up03:49
Perunaalt gr + 5 gives the euro symbol03:49
devilsadvocatePekke, kde?03:49
Pekkeyep03:49
devilsadvocatePekke, dont you get the popup like tht in windows?03:50
Pekkenoup.03:50
Pekkemy usb memory givesit, but no cdrom03:50
devilsadvocatePekke, in a terminal type sudo mount -l03:50
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Perunahow to create rootpassword in konsole ?03:52
devilsadvocatePekke, output? (pastebin)03:52
Pekkedevilsadvocate: pastebin?03:52
devilsadvocate!pastebin03:52
devilsadvocatehmm03:52
devilsadvocateok03:52
Kuser!sudo | Peruna03:52
Pekke!pastebin03:52
Pekke?03:52
Pekkepaste?03:52
Pekkei'm a noobie =)03:53
devilsadvocatein the output of mount -l03:53
Kuserhttp://www.pastebin.ca03:53
devilsadvocatedo you see /media/cdrom003:53
PerunaPekke www.pastebin.ca03:53
Pekkeno03:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:54
ubotuPeruna: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:54
PerunaKuser I meant creating a password for root03:54
KuserPeruna: why do you need to ?03:54
Pekkehttp://www.pastebin.ca/32155103:54
Pekkeok there03:54
devilsadvocatePekke, type "dmesg" in the command line and see if there is anythign about your cdrom in the last few lines03:54
Perunaok03:54
Perunaso that I won't have to type sudo everytime03:54
stdinPeruna: use: sudo -i03:55
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Perunaooh03:55
Perunanice thnx :)03:55
stdinnp :)03:55
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Pekkedevilsadvocate: no there's nothing about my cdrom.. only 3 times about rt2500, PCI, pccard, acpi03:56
devilsadvocatePekke, type ls /dev |grep hd03:57
Pekkeoh, it says: cdrom: open failed03:57
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stdindevilsadvocate: wouldn't ls /dev/hd* work there ?03:57
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devilsadvocatestdin, it should, but i kind of like grep :P03:57
stdingerp's kool :)03:58
kkosmostdin03:58
kkosmoyou can help me03:58
stdindepends on the problem03:58
stdinkkosmo03:58
devilsadvocatedont have to bother with the position of the *.. in usally looking for something less defined03:58
kkosmohow i can change only the language on konsole to english03:58
kkosmo?03:58
kkosmoonly konsol03:58
kkosmokonsole03:58
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stdinkkosmo: export LANG="C"03:59
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doc|una preguntilla mas, de donde puedo sacar la configuracion del xorg, del live cd03:59
kkosmoTYPE X03:59
kkosmoC03:59
kkosmo?03:59
kkosmoOR03:59
mineur!es03:59
kkosmoEN03:59
stdindoc|: #kubuntu-fr03:59
doc|sorry03:59
stdin:)03:59
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mineurdoc|: mas suerte en kubuntu-es :)03:59
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Pekkewhat should the grep-line do? it gave me:hda, hda1,2,5,hdb04:00
kkosmostdin04:00
kkosmothankd04:00
kkosmothankds04:00
devilsadvocatePekke, how many hard drives do you have?04:00
stdinnp :)04:00
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mineurPekke: grep just parses it's input and only shows the lines according to the argument you giive it...04:01
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mineurpfffffffffffff I'm constantly switching from laptop to desktop.... can't type!04:02
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shenmueanyone knows which software can change the case of the tag of mp3 files?04:04
devilsadvocateshenmue, amarok04:05
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shenmuedevilsadvocate: I mean change lots files automaticlly04:07
Zambergoogle for it04:07
Zambermaybe theres somewhere a script for it04:08
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devilsadvocateshenmue, you can use amarok to change a single field of tags04:08
dromeranyone: ever since I moved my /home to a different partition yesterday, Thunderbird keeps crashing every time I try to read  mail (if I don't touch it it stays on)04:08
dromerI can click on the mail and read it, but wintin 10 seconds it crashes04:08
Pekkedevilsadvocate: i have only one 20G hd. and it is not partitioned (except the swap part)04:08
stdinshenmue: easytag seems to be able to do what you want04:09
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shenmuestdin: ok, i'll give it a try04:10
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devilsadvocatePekke, ok. did dmesg assign any id to the cdrom , hdb maybe?04:10
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stdindevilsadvocate: what does "dmesg |grep -i cd-rom" show ?04:11
stdinor Pekke ^^04:12
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K-RyanHey guys, someone was trying to help me setup fglrx last night04:20
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K-RyanI went through the !fglrx page and did what I was supposed to, except when typing in fglrxinfo in the konsole it doesnt say ati04:20
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K-RyanCan anyone help?04:20
stdindo you have the fglrx driver loaded ?04:21
K-RyanBy loaded, what do you mean?04:21
stdinin xorg.conf04:22
K-RyanI don't think I did, last night the guy was trying to do something with that.04:22
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stdinif you don't put it in xorg.conf, it won't be used04:22
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K-RyanHow do I put it in there?04:22
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rysiek|plguys, is there a way of checking wich packages have been upgraded in the last upgrade?04:23
stdinin /etc/X11/xorg.conf, under Section "Device", change the Driver to "fglrx"04:23
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K-Ryan"sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?04:24
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stdinK-Ryan: replace "sudo" with "kdesu"04:24
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stdinrysiek|pl: if you know the date, you can look at /var/log/dpkg.log04:25
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K-Ryanokay,  found "Section "InputDevice" "Driver "wacom" "04:25
K-RyanReplace that with fglrx?04:25
stdinK-Ryan: no, under "Section "Device" "04:25
rysiek|plstdin: great! thanks04:26
stdinrysiek|pl: no problem :)04:26
K-Ryanokay, replaced it with Fglrx04:26
K-Ryantesting...04:26
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stdinK-Ryan: not a uppercase F, and you'll need to restart the X server04:27
K-Ryanright...04:27
K-Ryanrestarting x...04:28
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K-Ryanumm, logging out and back in counts as restarting the x server right?04:30
stdinnope04:30
K-Ryanno?04:30
K-RyanI thought someone said that only hardware changes required a reboot04:31
stdinlogout, and choose "Restart the X server" from the meny04:31
stdinmenu04:31
K-Ryanoh =)04:31
K-Ryanlet me try that04:31
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devilsadvocatestdin, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the x-server04:32
stdinI didn't say kill it, I said restart it :P04:33
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stdinbesides, the menu entry is cleaner for the system04:33
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K-Ryangood news and bad news04:42
K-Ryangood news, i moved up from my 1/3 FPS04:42
K-Ryanbad news, it moved to 2 FPS04:42
K-Ryanand my mouse couldnt move up04:43
K-Ryanso i had to reboot04:43
K-RyanHow can I terminate a program that im in, what keys?04:43
LynoureK-Ryan: Out of curiousity, windowed or full screen?04:43
K-Ryanfull screen04:43
stdinnormally Ctrl-Alt-Escape, then click on the window04:44
K-Ryanif you are running something full screen would the window still come up?04:44
stdinshould do, but can depend on the app04:44
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raghulhi04:47
K-RyanHi there04:47
raghulhow to download the kernel source04:47
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raghulhow to download the kernel source for dapper drake04:47
LjLUbotu, tell raghul about kernel | raghul, see the private message from Ubotu04:47
LjL!kernel04:47
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LjL!kernel | raghul04:48
Ubotworaghul: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:48
LjL!info linux-source04:48
Ubotwolinux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information04:48
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Pekkehello04:48
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:48
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Pekkedevilsadvocate: it says that the cdrom is hdb04:49
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devilsadvocatePekke, try sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom04:49
Pekkeok04:49
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Pekkemy wlan card seems to loose the connection every now and then, and after that it's quite hard to get it back04:51
shenmueraghul: sudo aptitude install linux-source04:51
Pekkenow it's just doing something with the cdrom04:52
devilsadvocategive it a minute04:52
Pekkemount: you must specify the filesystem type04:52
Pekkeit said that04:52
devilsadvocateok04:52
Pekkebut still tries to  do something04:52
devilsadvocatetry another cd04:52
Pekkeroger04:52
Pekkewon't open =)04:53
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Pekkehmm04:53
devilsadvocatesame error?04:53
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Pekkei put to the Kscd device to mount: /dev/hdb, and it started playing the cd04:53
devilsadvocatebut it works?04:54
Pekkenow it gives the opening pop up. =)04:54
Pekkethanks04:54
devilsadvocateyou might have your media player configured to do that04:54
CotRo|eRHey anyone knows how to connect my nokia 6600 to my ubuntu machine via bluetooth and surf the internet on my mobile via 'ubuntu' ???04:54
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devilsadvocateyour other cd is screwed Pekke04:54
Pekkei don't know witch line it was, but it works04:54
visik7anyone here using lphoto ?04:54
raghulhow to reduce the size of the ubuntu kernel?04:55
Pekkeboth of the cd's work now. the other one was data, and other .wav. now it gives the pop up window like in XP when i insert a cd04:55
raghulit takes more time for me to boot ubuntu any idea04:55
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stdinCotRo|eR: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup04:56
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raghulit takes more time for me to boot ubuntu any idea to boot it faster04:56
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Pekkewhat is the best c++ or HTML editor and coding tool in Kubuntu?04:57
Pekkewith color coding and stuff04:58
waylandbillkdevelop & quanta (kdewebdev)04:58
gnomefreakquanta but its kind of on the heavy side04:58
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CotRo|eRstdin: yes i managed now how do i pair bluetooth devices?04:59
stdinCotRo|eR: those pages tell you how to do it04:59
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praveer_fedoraanyone know05:04
praveer_fedorahow to change label for ext305:04
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praveer_fedorai have wrongly labelled two partitions as / so none can boot05:04
raghulis there any way to convert the partition from ext3 to reiserfs without formatting?05:04
LjL!convertfs | raghul, but dangerous05:05
Ubotwoconvertfs - in-place filesystem conversion - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information05:05
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LjLpraveer_fedora: that's not the label, that's the mountpoing. it's in /etc/fstab05:05
praveer_fedorawhat should i do now05:05
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praveer_fedoraLjL, I am sure it is Label thing i have faced it before05:06
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praveer_fedorasome how forgot to remeber it05:06
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LjLpraveer_fedora: then you haven't explained it correctly. you said you "labelled both as /", which makes not much sense05:06
LjLpraveer_fedora: if even recovery mode and "init=/bin/sh" fail, i guess you should use a live cd05:06
praveer_fedoraya05:06
praveer_fedorakubuntu 64 bit05:07
praveer_fedorajus tell me command to change label05:07
LjLpraveer_fedora: e2label is the command you want *if* the problem is the label, anyway05:07
praveer_fedorathanks05:07
praveer_fedoraa lotttt05:07
LjLpraveer_fedora: i've just done it, although an "apropos label" would have easily told you05:07
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praveer_fedoraLjL was trying with mke2fs05:08
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BluesKajhowdy all :)05:11
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K-RyanHey now05:11
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LjLpraveer_fedora: bad idea i think... that formats05:11
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BluesKaj!Haiku05:12
UbotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/05:12
K-Ryan!poem05:12
BluesKajyeah :)05:13
LjL!botabuse05:13
UbotwoPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:13
K-RyanI wasn't abusing, I was seeing if a more basic thing would have a result...05:13
BluesKajsensitive bots here05:13
LjLK-Ryan: still, you can use private messages or #ubuntu-bots if you don't know whether a factoid exists05:13
K-RyanUbotwo?05:14
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LjL!bot05:14
UbotwoThis is a temporary replacement for Ubotu. You can browse Ubotu's brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:14
K-RyanWhat happened to Ubotu? o.O05:14
LjLK-Ryan: read your backscrool, search for "ubotu has left"05:14
stdinanyone know of a GUI for ip6tables ?05:14
BluesKajfactoid?...is that botspeak for "fact" ?05:14
K-RyanOh, I see05:14
LjLBluesKaj: it's botspeak for "association between a trigger-word and the bot's response"05:15
K-RyanSo the bot reset it's connection?05:15
K-Ryan*its05:15
LjLK-Ryan: kind of, it's been parting and joining for all day at a few minutes' interval05:15
BluesKajbots got a botette :)05:15
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BluesKajanyone have experience with Haiky the OS ?05:16
BluesKajHaiku05:16
K-RyanOh that's why you did that05:16
K-RyanI thought you were bored =)05:16
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BluesKajwell, that too05:17
K-Ryan=P05:17
CotRo|eRstdin: no success in surfing internet with bluetooth05:17
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LjLBluesKaj: that's quite offtopic... still, no, i've only used proper BeOS, and i didn't even believe Haiku was at a stage where you could actually boot it05:17
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stdinCotRo|eR: not even with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup ?05:18
BluesKajLjL, IC05:18
LjLit surely has gone a long way since i last looked at it. i used to look at the site daily, but not anymore05:19
CotRo|eRstdin: because i dont want to surf the internet via gprs, but the other way round, surf the internet on the mobile via bluetooth via ubuntu to become free :)05:19
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K-RyanCotRo|eR doesn't want to pay for internet from his phone company =)05:20
stdinCotRo|eR: don't know if you can do that05:20
praveer_fedoraLjL: I think i have messed my vfat partition any command to reapir vfat , may be using fsck but it didnt help, it says clean but mounting that vfat fails05:20
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praveer_fedoraLjL: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda305:20
CotRo|eRyes you CAN!05:21
LjLpraveer_fedora: well, in what way might you have messed it up?05:21
CotRo|eRhttp://my.opera.com/nicomen/blog/show.dml/207942#comments05:21
praveer_fedoraLjL: tried to repair ext3 which semmed to have bad magic number for relabelling05:21
tibbarcan some one recomend me a cool download manager for firefox, im using Kget and wget atm, but I cant find plugins.05:21
CotRo|eRbut its not a good guide doesn't work05:21
praveer_fedoraLjL: in it got few things about /WINDOWS/TEMP/****05:22
LjLpraveer_fedora: weird that it would affect *another* partition... might you not somehow have changed the partition type for the FAT partition? check fdisk -l /dev/sda05:22
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praveer_fedoraok05:22
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eviljamesBonjour!  This machine has incorrectly decided that my graphics card is i915 instead of i810, how do I convince it otherwise?05:23
praveer_fedoraLjL: Cannot open /dev/sda3 <- seems strange05:24
eviljamesIt's loading incorrect kernel modules.05:24
devilsadvocateeviljames, what makes you think that?05:24
LjLpraveer_fedora: /dev/sda not /dev/sda3, if that's fdisk that you're using05:24
tibbarcan some one recomend me a cool download manager for firefox, im using Kget and wget atm, but I cant find firefox plugins.05:24
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praveer_fedoraLjL: Cannot open /dev/sda05:25
devilsadvocatetibbar, dta05:25
eviljamesdevilsadvocate: Well, the drm module that has loaded is i91505:25
devilsadvocateeviljames, you sure you have 810 ?:P05:25
eviljamesyes.05:25
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eviljameswait.05:25
eviljames;)05:25
devilsadvocateeviljames, lspci05:25
LjLpraveer_fedora: weird enough, stupid question but are you sure the device is actually /dev/sda and not something else, say /dev/hda?05:25
eviljames00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)05:26
LjLpraveer_fedora: ah wait - of course you need to be root05:26
eviljamesA quick google search links the 82865G to i810 driver05:26
devilsadvocateeviljames, are you facing any problem otherwise?05:26
tibbardevilsadvocate: where can I get dta05:26
praveer_fedoraLjL: http://pastebin.ca/321644 is what i have messed up05:26
devilsadvocatetibbar, google for it - you can try down them all05:26
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eviljamesdevilsadvocate: yes.  Beryl crashes immediately upon starting.  my laptop had this exact same problem, and manually doing: modprobe -r i915 && modprobe i81005:26
K-Ryanhas anyone installed xblast or xblast-tnt05:26
eviljamesafter the X server had crashed causes beryl to work.05:27
K-RyanI don't know which one to install >.<05:27
LjLpraveer_fedora: ouch! you should have done copy original to backup there, not vice versa...05:27
stdineviljames: I have a 845, and I still have i915 loaded, doesn't seem to cause any trouble05:27
devilsadvocateeviljames, hmm05:27
eviljamesdevilsadvocate: but once I did that, beryl works fine.05:27
eviljamesThe laptop has the same integrated video card.05:27
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praveer_fedoraLjL: has the following got anything to do with05:27
LjLpraveer_fedora: i suppose /dev/sda1 really is a FAT partition anyway, and you mistook it for an ext3 partition?05:27
praveer_fedoravfat05:27
LjLpraveer_fedora: maybe, i'm not sure05:27
praveer_fedoraLjL: this seems too strange05:28
stdineviljames: you can blacklist the i915 module, and add i810 to /etc/modules, that would work05:28
devilsadvocateeviljames, you have the problem on the same laptop right.. and manually changing the module fixes it?05:28
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praveer_fedoraLjL: after i restarted my konsole it got booted05:28
eviljamesdevilsadvocate: That's correct.05:28
devilsadvocatestdin +1 eviljames05:28
praveer_fedoraLjL: sorry mounted05:28
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praveer_fedoraLjL: mounted*05:28
eviljamesstdin: Bingo, that's exactly what I wanted :)05:28
praveer_fedoraLjL: anyway so many thnaks05:28
stdineviljames: I may do that too, seems I have the same problem here :P05:29
eviljamesI want to tell the system to never load i915 and always load i81005:29
Pekkehi! my wlan card started being unstable after I tried to put my laptop on suspend using the KPowersave. it gave me arror message:"suspend to ram failed on unloading "rt2500". trying to recover.05:29
praveer_fedoraLjL: and i would remember "you should have done copy original to backup there, not vice versa..." next time05:29
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eviljamesstdin: This is the route I took with my laptop after noticing a bunch of agpgart problems in Xorg.log so I checked kernel modules.05:29
eviljamesstdin: Where do I blacklist i915?05:30
stdineviljames: thought you'd ask :P05:30
stdineviljames: add the line "blacklist i810" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist05:30
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stdineviljames: opps,05:31
eviljamesAre you sure I don't put blacklist i915 ?05:31
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eviljames;)05:31
stdineviljames: that's i915 :P05:31
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eviljamesand then add i810 to /etc/modules ?05:31
DaSkreech!real05:31
UbotwoFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:31
stdineviljames: yep, then reboot, and it should use the correct driver05:31
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eviljamesAlright, I'll give it a whirl right now.05:32
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stdinheh, me too :P05:32
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eviljamesstdin: I used modprobe.d/blacklist -- however i915 loaded anyways.05:39
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stdineviljames: yeah, same here..05:39
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eviljamesMine is also telling me that i915 is in use -- an error that the laptop gave right up until I dropped to console mode to forcibly remove it :)05:40
eviljames(former pain^H^H^H^Hslackware junkie) :-)05:40
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eviljamesThe only place that i915 is mentioned inside of /etc (according to grep -R i915 *) is inside of modprobe.d/blacklist05:43
Pekkewhat can be wrong with my wlan card(gigabyte, i think based on ralink 2500 chip?). The power light is on, ifconfig gives me all kind of stuff about ra0,system settings/network settings tell ra0 is enabled, but it can't find any networks, and frequently loses connection. There is no encryption in my wlan at the moment.05:44
eviljamesI'm not 100% but I'm sure this is important to getting beryl to work properly.05:44
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stdineviljames: beryl is working for me, even with i915 loaded05:45
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eviljamesFor me it crashes and takes X with it.05:45
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mikejanssenhmm05:45
mikejanssenjust dl'd the kubuntu install files from within ubuntu..how to i make the change over?05:46
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cloakablemikejanssen: What to you mean, downloaded the install files? sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:47
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cloakable?05:47
eviljamesstdin: How does the kernel make the decision to load i915?05:48
sun_where can I find this emoticons for GAIM: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26487 ?05:48
mikejansseni dl'd from synaptic05:48
eviljamesOr, how does ubuntu?05:48
cloakablemikejanssen: You installed kubuntu-desktop in synaptic?05:48
mikejanssenyes05:48
cloakablemikejanssen: Logout, and change the session to KDE05:49
mikejanssenrestart comp?05:49
stdineviljames: hmm, I don't know the exact way it decides, i think it detects  the hardware then somehow chooses what to load then.05:49
cloakablemikejanssen: Log out.05:50
mikejanssenk05:50
cloakable...05:50
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stdineviljames: maybe the devels will know05:50
cloakableWhy do I get the feeling he will be back, saying he restarted?05:50
cloakableAnd is still in gnome? :P05:51
eviljamesstdin: I've made a grevious error :(05:52
Pekkecan i change the desktop somehow in the konsole? like with some desktop-gnome -command or something?05:52
eviljamesI just rebooted my laptop and it loaded the 915 module05:52
eviljamesand beryl05:52
eviljamesand didn't crash hideously.05:52
eviljamesNow I have to figure out what I did (other than the kernel module) that made it work :)05:52
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stdineviljames: heh, not a task I envy05:53
mikejanssenhmm05:54
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dopeis there a way to keep a user account from changing the wall paper?05:56
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eviljamesstdin: Thanks for your help anyways.05:56
LjL!kiosktool | dope05:57
ubotwokiosktool - tool to configure the KDE kiosk framework - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information05:57
LjLpossibly that can do it05:57
stdineviljames: no problem05:57
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Pekkecan anyone help me with the wlan card problem?05:59
LynourePekke: Which kind? (Not promising anything...)06:00
Pekkewhat can be wrong with my wlan card(gigabyte, i think based on ralink 2500 chip?). The power light is on, ifconfig gives me all kind of stuff about ra0,system settings/network settings tell ra0 is enabled, but it can't find any networks, and frequently loses connection. There is no encryption in my wlan at the moment.06:00
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Pekkeso when i restart my laptop, it makes connection, but after5-10 minutes it loses it, and usually i have to restart the whole computer to get it to work again. networking restart in konsole won't help06:02
tibbardevilsadvocate: do you know how to install dta?06:02
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devilsadvocatetibbar, just like you would install any firefox extecnsion06:04
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tibbardevilsadvocate: just found out ty06:05
jeanmihello, i would like to know if there is an alternative to amule to use the ed2k network06:05
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LynourePekke: hmm, anything in the logs?06:06
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Pekkewhere can i find the logs`06:06
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gongihello06:06
LynourePekke: /var/log/  or in this case command  dmesg   can be enough.06:07
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Pekkeit gives: ra0: no IPv6 routers present06:08
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LynourePekke: that as such is not a problem but you could see if disabling ipv6 helps. Nothing about the wifi device?06:11
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Pekkeno, just EEPROM channel and desibel listing or something like that.06:12
Pekkehow can i disable ipv606:12
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Lynoure!ipv606:13
ubotwoTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv406:13
LynourePekke: see that link, but I do not think it makes a difference, sounds like something else.06:13
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Pekkewhen i used WPA encryption, i used this page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-192161.html and Kenzy's last comment (almost in the end) to set it up. But now i don't use wpa, so how do i have to change that to make wlan work?06:14
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LynourePekke: I have personally found knetworkmanager to be handy, whether one uses wpa, wep or nothing06:16
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Pekkei'll try that06:16
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Pekkei've been using wireless assistant06:16
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LynourePekke: it can require one configuration tweak (commenting out interfaces from /etc/network/interfaces ), but we'll get to that if it comes to that06:17
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Pekkeok06:18
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Pekkei plugged a cable and try to download that application06:18
K-RyanCan someone help me fix up my fglrx?06:18
shadowhywindanyone around that can help me with a stuburn belkin router that wont open a port06:19
shadowhywindor with ssh06:19
Lynoureshadowhywind: What's you ssh question?06:19
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shadowhywindif i try to connect to my ssh server by 192.168.. it works no problens, but when i use my wan ip i get connection timed out06:20
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shadowhywindi have the port opened on my belkin router with tcp/udp open, i even had the ssh computer in the DMZ and still connection times out06:20
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Lynoureshadowhywind: it NATs, then?06:21
shadowhywindhuh??06:21
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Lynoureshadowhywind: opening a port is not enough, you will also need to tell the router to forward that port to your server06:21
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kahlilhullo?06:22
shadowhywindhow would i go about doing that?06:22
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shadowhywindhello kahlil06:22
Lynoureshadowhywind: That is something to check the Belkin manual for, or call their support.06:22
kahlili'm having a problem with Kubuntu 6.1006:23
kahlilinstalled from DVD06:23
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shadowhywindi know this might not help but can you take a look at this website, it is for port triggering/forwarding,. would this help? http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_triggering/Belkin/F5D6231-4/SSH.htm06:23
kahlileven on the live CD (or DVD in this case)06:23
kahlili can't start Konqueror06:23
kahlilit crashes06:23
kahlilKontact segfaults06:23
kahlilanyone who can offer any advice on this issue would be my best friend forever :)06:24
kahlili'm out of ideas06:24
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shadowhywindkahlil do you still get to the desktop?06:24
kahlilyes06:24
kahlildesktop is fine06:24
kahlilKonsole works06:25
kahlilthe wireless manger works06:25
kahlilAdept works06:25
shadowhywindeverything but konqueror?06:25
kahlilKonqueror, Kontact both die06:25
kahliland I thought it was just my update06:25
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kahlilbut this happens on the live CD too@06:25
kahlil!06:25
kahlilInstalling on an IBM ThinkPad x6006:26
Lynoureshadowhywind: I'm not sure. Usually it is called port forwarding and if they use port triggering as a synonym for that, they have sure done it more complicatedly than usually needed. But you could give it a try.06:26
shadowhywindi have no idea, sorry, other then try to reinstall konquror from the repo06:26
kahlilwell I did that :)06:26
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kahlilor updated it anyhow06:26
kahlilstill nothing06:27
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kahlildamn, it looks so promising :)06:27
kahlili'll try one of the CDs and see if my luck is any better06:27
shadowhywindLynoure my issue is i changed the port of ssh so i have no idea what the trigger start/end should beport06:27
kahlilthanks06:27
shadowhywindkahil i have another idea that might work06:27
shadowhywindkahil download 6.06 cd and see if the issue is the same06:28
Lynoureshadowhywind: Are you saying you do not know what you changed it to be? =)06:28
shadowhywindno i know what port i changed it to.06:28
K-RyanCan anyone help me with my Fglrx?06:28
shadowhywindin the router settings, would i have the trigger start/end port and public port be the same?06:28
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Lynoureshadowhywind: Now that depends on whether you want the public port to be same as actual port on the server... :)06:31
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Lynoureshadowhywind: I'm sure you can figure it out.06:31
shadowhywindsee this is where i get confused06:31
shadowhywindoh06:31
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shadowhywindi think i got it possiable, would the trigger start/end be the port i specifily with the ssh command, once the router gets that ping on the port it will redirect it to the port that ssh server is listening on06:32
PekkeLynoure: Knetworkmanager takes forever to configure device, and after that it wont connect the wlan06:32
LynoureI'm already confused about what you want... Normally port forwarding would be enough. So I'll go back to pro bono ubuntu support instead of serving Belking pro bono :)06:33
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shadowhywindhehe sorry,06:33
LynourePekke: so it prolly takes the hack.06:33
Pekkeok... can you advise me what to do?06:33
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pc5;'06:34
PekkeLynoure: sometimes it leaves the power&link light on, and sometimes it turns 'em off, but wlan doesn't work..06:34
pc5l;kl;06:34
LynourePekke: http://www.lynoure.org/blog/index.php?/archives/76-Solving-the-common-NetworkManager-problem.html has the info, but in short, comment out the interfaces from /etc/network/interfaces (keep backups so you can roll back if it does not help)06:35
LynourePekke: but your problem could be something else entirely, even faulty hw...06:35
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tehpwnHey can anybody help me with some wireless drivers?06:36
LynourePekke: or a card than need ndiswrapper. hmm. (I stay away from those)06:36
Lynoure!wifi | tehpwn06:36
ubotwotehpwn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:36
Pekkendiswrapper...?06:36
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mefisto__I can't start korganizer. I get a message "KDEInit could not launch korganizer". If I run it as root it works. I've tried reinstalling it. Any ideas what's wrong?06:36
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tehpwnI'm pretty n00b when it comes to Linux, so I'll take all the help I can get.06:37
LynourePekke: it's discussed in the link ubotwo just gave to tehpwn06:37
Pekkeso i need to add # before every other line except those told in your page?06:37
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Lynouretehpwn: start with looking at that web page.06:37
tehpwnOk, thanks.06:37
LynourePekke: not every other line, basicly every line excluding lo (loopback) configuration06:38
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Pekkeok06:38
LynourePekke: after that you can reload knetworkmanager (or if you wish, ever logout-login) for it to take effect.06:39
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wimpiesjust ran dist-upgrade on feisty but apt-get claims a file to be delivered by two packages.  upgrade fails. How can I solve this ?06:40
tehpwnMy wireless card dosn't appear on the supported hardware list... Am I screwed then?06:40
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Theorywimpies: try apt-get -f install06:41
yuriywimpies: i'm just waiting for a fix to come down on that one06:41
kaiI got my printer working right in linux *hooray*06:41
yuriytehpwn: you might be. what card is it?06:42
mattuxtehpwn, which list?  and what's your problem?06:42
wimpiestheory : that does not work ... it does nothing.06:42
tehpwnWMP54GS w/ SpeedBooster06:42
manchickenkai: chances are you got it working with cups, not linux ^_^06:42
kaiMy bad, but its kate java files the way I want them06:42
manchickenGood stuff.06:43
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kaiIt clumped all the diffrent fonts and colors 2gether06:43
kaiim gunna have have to buy TurboPrint06:44
tehpwnmattux: I'm looking at a suppored hardware list on the Ubuntu website.06:44
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mattuxah...so just general ubuntu supported hardware?06:44
tehpwnmattux: I can't seem to find drivers though. (Linksys WMP54GS SpeedBooster)06:44
mattuxso, in other words there's no native driver for your card06:44
mattuxever used ndiswrapper?06:44
tehpwnDosen't appear so.06:44
tehpwnUm, I'm not sure what that is.06:45
tehpwnLike I said, pretty n00b when it comes to Linux.06:45
mattuxit takes windows drivers for your wireless card and uses them in linux06:45
yuriy!ndiswrapper06:45
ubotwoWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:45
mattux'course that's a pretty simple explanation06:45
tehpwnubotwo: I looked there, didn't help much.06:45
ubotwotehpwn: Error: "I" is not a valid command.06:45
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mattuxdo you have the disk that came w/ your computer or the windows driver for your card?06:46
tehpwnYes I do.06:46
mattuxwhich one06:46
PekkeLynoure: can't seem to get it to work with those advise....06:46
manchickenlinuxant actually distributes the windows drivers.06:46
tehpwnI also have an .exe that I downloaded from Linksys, but thats for XP.06:47
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mattuxgood06:47
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tehpwnSo what am I supposed to be doing with this Ndiswrapper?06:47
manchickenlinuxant > ndiswrapper.  Since neither of them are really free, there's no real ethical difference.06:47
LynourePekke: I was afraid of that. Which wifi card do you have?06:47
mattuxtehpwn...sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils06:48
tehpwnOh, so I have to be hooked up via LAN then. Crap.06:48
LynourePekke: some people are helping tehpwn at the moment and those things could help you too.06:48
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K-RyanCan anyone help me with Fglrx?06:48
mattuxya06:48
Pekkegigabyte gn-wmkg06:48
FragragCan someone help me? I need help in my first steps of compiling something06:48
tehpwnHumm. I guess it time to move the PC downstairs...06:48
mattuxwell, tell me when you're ready and i'll be happy to help06:48
Pekkeyes, i've been reading those messages06:48
tehpwnOk, well thank you, I'll do what I can and if I can't get it working I'll be back.06:49
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mefisto__I can't start korganizer. I get a message "KDEInit could not launch korganizer". If I run it as root it works. I've tried reinstalling it. Any ideas what's wrong?06:49
K-RyanMaybe you need root to start it?06:49
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manchickenmefisto__: You probably hosed permissions on some file somewhere.06:49
tehpwnOh, what am I supposed to do after I install ndiswrapper? Is there on-screen instructions?06:49
mattuxnah...i can help you when you get there06:50
tehpwnOk, thanks. Be back soon.06:50
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mefisto__manchicken: some file? somewhere?06:50
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mefisto__manchicken: wouldn't reinstalling have fixed any permissions problems?06:53
yappo_hey does anybody know a program to watch quicktime movie trailers through ubuntu on firefox06:53
yappo_because there is a lot of media out there that i can't watch06:53
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LynourePekke: Sorry I cannot help you further. Good luck anyway!06:54
underdog5004oh man...I'm totally ripped on salvia06:54
yappo_can someone please help me06:54
mefisto__yappo_: try mplayer plugin06:54
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yappo_how can i get the plugin06:54
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PupenoRAny recomendation on SNMP monitoring software ?06:54
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mefisto__look for it in adept. I think it's something like mplayer-plugin or mplayer-mozilla-plugin06:55
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mein_traumhttp://mibssam.free.fr06:55
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underdog5004Pupeno, SMP monitoring, as in hyper-threading?06:55
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PupenoRunderdog5004: no, SNMP.06:56
underdog5004oh...sorry, don't know...06:56
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mefisto__yappo_: it's mozilla-mplayer06:57
bxnpevening people06:57
bxnpi have a question, sometimes my system load goes up and up, when i look with top to see wich proces is responsible no proces is taking much cpu time,06:59
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bxnphow can i solve this kind off behaviour06:59
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mefisto__so does anyone have any advice about my korganizer problem?07:00
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bxnpwhat is your problem07:00
mefisto__I can't start korganizer. I get a message "KDEInit could not launch korganizer". If I run it as root it works. I've tried reinstalling it. Any ideas what's wrong?07:00
bxnpand when you reboot the system07:01
bxnpmaybe something important crashed07:01
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bxnpwich is nog running at the moment needing to start the program07:01
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mefisto__I've restarted many times since it first happened07:01
hansohey. how can I get support for norwegian language in kubuntu. like when typing in for instance XChat.07:02
blekoshi, i could really use ur help, when i logout kde "crashes" [get a crash report]  and then i shows the login screen as if nothing happened07:02
Lynoure!no | hanso07:02
Lynourehmmm07:02
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ubotwohanso: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!07:02
blekosthe crash handler shows (no debuggins symbols found007:03
bxnpdid you purge your configuration mefisto__07:03
BluesKajubotwo is a bit or 2 slow today07:03
ubotwoBluesKaj: Error: "is" is not a valid command.07:03
BluesKajhehe07:03
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mefisto__bxnp: no, that sounds promising. how do I do that?07:04
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BluesKajdepends on your definition of  "is" :)07:04
LjLBluesKaj: hmm i was doing an apt-get dist-upgrade, maybe it'll be faster now that it's finished07:04
bxnpapt-get remove <thepacakge> --purge07:04
bxnpand maybe you should remove your local korganizer dir asswel07:04
bxnpbut mefisto__ can you start contact07:05
bxnpkontact07:05
mefisto__bxnp: oh ok. didn't think of trying that07:05
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mefisto__yes, kontact starts07:06
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bxnpand can you start korganizer now07:06
mefisto__no07:06
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BluesKajLjL, upgrading KDE ?07:07
Toxhi my mic is not working i tired everything seems hp is ok cables too07:07
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bxnpkee, well in that case i would remove korganizer and purge the configuration and allso remove every thing in your home dir relating to korganizer07:07
LjLBluesKaj: no... why, is there a new KDE? anyway the bot's not running on my desktop, i was just updating my debian07:07
bxnpand then reinstall07:07
LjLand given it's a 300MHz thing, that may well affect the bot07:08
bxnpanyway somebody has an answer to my question07:08
BluesKajok07:08
bxnpi have a question, sometimes my system load goes up and up, when i look with top to see wich proces is responsible no proces is taking much cpu time,07:08
Falcor_hey... i need help with ubuntu...07:09
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Falcor_i want to install .deb packages and i dont know how to do excluding their documentation07:10
underdog5004Falcor_, I believe that you can double-click .deb's to install07:10
Toxhow to set kmix setting by default ?07:10
Falcor_i knoow07:10
Falcor_but07:10
BluesKajLjL, there are no new official KDE stable upgrades AFAIK07:10
mefisto__I purged korganizer with adept, and it removed kubuntu-desktop! why?07:10
Falcor_i wanto to do this without the documentation07:10
Falcor_:/und understood?07:11
bxnpnever mind just reinstall it07:11
bxnpoke now remove everything in your home dir07:12
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bxnprelating to korganizer07:12
bxnpit would be hidden07:12
Falcor_SOMEONE!!!! HELP ME07:12
underdog5004Falcor_, oh...ok...umm, no idea...unless you go through the package manager....07:12
Falcor_HOW TO INSTALL PACKAGES .deb WHITOUT DOCUMENTATIONS!!!!07:12
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underdog5004!attitude | Falcor_07:13
ubotwoFalcor_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:13
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bxnpdpkg -i <install pacakge> Falcor_07:14
bxnpif you know for sure you want to install the program Falcor_07:14
bxnpFalcor_, maybe you you have to solve some dependency's but you can search and install them with apt-get or adept,07:15
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bxnpbtw mefisto__ do an apt-get update before you reinstall korganizer07:15
mattuxya'll i'll be back later.  if tehpwn comes back and i'm gone, tell him i had to go, but i'll be back07:15
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mattuxha07:16
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mattuxtehpwn, i need to take off right now07:16
renatodoes anyone know if there's a ubuntu server channel?07:16
mattuxi'll be back after a while though07:16
tehpwnok07:16
tehpwnWhat was the command to apt-get ndiswrapper?07:16
hassan2ahi07:16
renatodisk rapper?07:16
tehpwnNo, for wireless drivers07:17
tehpwnndiswrapper07:17
renatoI'm joking07:17
bxnpnoting tehpwn07:17
bxnpit must be apt-get install ndiswapper07:17
tehpwnI tried that :-p07:17
BluesKaj!ubuntu-server07:17
bxnpyou have to have the windos .inf file for your driver07:17
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/07:17
BluesKaj!server07:17
ubotwoUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/07:17
renatotry sudo apt-get install ndiswapper07:17
LjL!ubuntu-server is <alias> server07:17
ubotwoLjL: I'll remember that, LjL07:17
tehpwnYeah, I have the cd that came with the pci card07:17
tehpwnrenato: I tried that also07:18
renatooh thanks BluesKaj and LjL07:18
tehpwnsaid ndiswrapper not found.. or w/e07:18
bxnptehpwn, do ndiswrapper-utils07:18
mefisto__bxnp: so I do this: 1. purge korganizer 2. remove related directories in home dir 3. apt-get update 4. reinstall07:18
bxnptehpwn, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils07:18
bxnpoke and mefisto__07:18
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bxnpyep07:18
bxnpthats the order07:18
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mefisto__I'll try it again07:19
bxnptehpwn,  is it working07:19
bxnpoke keep me informed07:19
tehpwnbsnp, nope its not working07:19
tehpwnbxnp *07:19
bxnpoke do  a apt-cache search ndiswrapper tehpwn07:19
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bxnpand past it in pastbin07:20
bxnpmaybe you dont have the right sources07:20
bxnpdont no wich repos you have enabled07:20
tehpwnMaybe not, it's a brand new install of kubuntu.07:20
bxnpwich version07:20
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tehpwn6.06 ?07:20
bxnpoke07:21
bxnpanyway do apt-cache search ndiswrapper and see what you get07:21
tehpwnIt tells me the kernel version07:21
bxnpit should return a list off pacakges wich you could install relating to ndiswrapper07:21
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tehpwnlinux-image-2.6.15-26-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 386.07:22
tehpwnIs what it says07:22
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tehpwnHumm, bxnp?07:24
bxnpoke enable your source list with multiverse and universe07:24
bxnpwait07:24
tehpwnYeah, please guide me in that process.... :-D07:25
bronze_0_1tehpwn: rub his back first07:26
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tehpwnhehe07:26
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Falcor_SOMEONE KNOWS A --excludedocs FOR  UBUNTU??? THIS IS USED TO INSTALL PACKAGES EXCLUDING THEIR DOCUMENTATION07:28
K-RyanThat's great, were the caps required?07:28
tehpwnI was wondering the same thing...07:28
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bxnphttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories take a look at the link tehpwn07:28
bxnpyou run dapper right07:29
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tehpwnIDK07:29
JosefKFalcor_: is the documentation in /usr/share/doc really that much of a problem?07:29
K-RyanI don't suppose anyone here has setup Fglrx before...07:29
bxnplol, a lot off people i guess K-Ryan07:29
bxnpbut not me07:29
bxnpi dont have a nice video card on this lappy07:29
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K-RyanOkay, "Has anyone done it successfully and is willing to help me?07:30
K-Ryan"07:30
josh_!xorg07:30
ubotwoThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:30
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bxnpbtw tehpwn, use for an editor kwrite instead of the gedit07:30
bxnpcause you wont have gedit i suppose on your system07:31
tehpwnOk, is that allready installed?07:31
bxnpkwrite is already installed on your system yes07:31
tehpwnOk, will do.07:31
bxnpit belongs with the kde pacakges07:31
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velleis there a way to get a list of all usergroups on my linux?07:31
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Theorycat /etc/group ?07:32
bxnpdo sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list07:32
tehpwnbxnp, what does it mean by 'gksudo' ?07:32
bxnpmake sure you back up your old one07:32
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velleTheory: thanks07:32
bxnpgksudo is the gnome version for running a program with root privelige07:33
bxnpon kde its called kdesu07:33
tehpwnWell I just typed 'sudo' and it worked.07:33
K-Ryan!fglrx07:33
ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:33
Falcor_josefk: i want to do a custom instalation of ubuntu in my pc...07:33
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Falcor_josefK: i want to do a custom instalation of ubuntu in my pc...07:33
K-RyanFalcor_ what do you mean by custom?07:33
JosefKFalcor_: the documentation is required, it contains the licenses07:33
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Falcor_K-Ryan: stragic selection of packages07:34
Falcor_K-Ryan: i did this in fedora 507:34
hak5fanHello.... I want to mount a cue file in kubuntu and i've found this program called Mount ISO image. It has the abillity to mount cue imgs but I read somewhere that Linux had a built in feature for this... How do I use it?07:34
bxnpcool tehpwn07:35
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K-RyanIf you want certain packages, install then go through what's installed07:35
K-RyanIt's not hard just takes a few minutes07:35
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Falcor_K-Ryan: i've installed the packages that i want whitout their documentation07:35
bxnpand then afther that do apt-get update and apt-get  upgrade07:35
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K-Ryanwhats wrong with the documentation? o.O07:35
bxnpand then do a apt-cache search ndiswrapper07:35
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Falcor_K-Ryan: hueeuahaeuhaeuh07:35
bxnpand you should see ndiswrapper-utils07:35
Falcor_K-Ryan: nothing07:36
bxnpmefisto__, how is it running07:36
K-RyanThen leave it =)07:36
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Falcor_K-Ryan: but my target is a poor pc07:36
tehpwnOk, awesome thanks.07:36
Falcor_K-Ryan: hehehehe07:36
tehpwnupdating at the moment07:36
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K-RyanSo keep the games and anything you dont need, off it07:36
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Falcor_K-Ryan: i need to create a mini-linux...07:36
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fdovingkai, please fix your connection problems.07:36
renato I'm planning to use ubuntu server with xubuntu-desktop on top of it, for a small lab network of 18 machines to share printers, files and maybe host a little website for internal use. I am not totally computer unsavvy, but I'm no IT expert as well and I was wondering if there's a GUI application for adding users and devices or doing basic maintenance tasks to the network?07:36
bxnplet me get some coffee, btw if you want to see something to mee use my name in the sentence so i know its meant for me tehpwn07:36
K-RyanI believe there is something called "Feather Linux" or something07:37
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Falcor_K-Ryan: as little as possibel07:37
K-RyanRuns off a floppy07:37
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K-RyanI mean I know it exists, I just can't remember it's exact name.07:37
tehpwnbxnp, yeah I do sometimes, but I forget to other times :-p07:37
Falcor_K-Ryan: do you know how to do? whitout the documentation?07:37
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fdovingrenato: you might get better answers for xubuntu specific questions in #xubuntu07:37
K-RyanIt doesn't matter, I have plenty of space at my disposal07:37
bxnpnevermind i thought you did not know it tehpwn07:37
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K-RyanAnd I prefer to be able to check what to do considering I'm quite new to this.07:38
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Falcor_K-Ryan: on fedora i did rpm -Uvh --excludedocs package_name07:38
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K-RyanBut this isn't fedora is it?07:38
tehpwnyou have to excuse my brain at the moment, im excited that im getting this done bxnp07:38
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Falcor_K-Ryan: no... i want to do on ubuntu now!07:38
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K-RyanIf you want an Ubuntu install it's going to take at least 2GB07:39
bxnpwell its only the starting point, tehpwn cause afther this you have to install the windows wifi driver  tehpwn07:39
K-RyanAnd I'm sure the documentation for everything is no bigger than 30MB or so07:39
bxnpyou can do this with ndiswrapper -i File.inf07:39
bxnpand then you can do ndiswrapper -l if the driver is loaded and how its loaded07:40
bxnpif everything is oke07:40
tehpwnOk, well I'm still on the upgrade step, bxnp07:40
bxnphow much mb tehpwn07:40
tehpwnMy internet is not god like sadly...07:40
bxnpwell let me know when you're done07:40
bxnpmefisto__, how is your korganizer problem07:41
tehpwnOk, I will bxnp07:41
Falcor_K-Ryan: i know man... but i have to cut the size... and this is one of many actions that i've projected07:41
tehpwnbxnp, I'm running at approx 80-85kb/s07:41
K-RyanGood luck to you then07:42
bxnpbut i guess its upgrading a lot,07:42
K-Ryanrestarting X07:43
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slow-motionhallo07:48
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tehpwnHumm... taking forever07:49
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K-RyanWOOHOO!07:49
K-RyanI got OpenGL to work =D07:49
renatodoes kubuntu have like a network management suite?07:50
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tehpwnOperGL? What's the purpose for having that on a tux machine?07:50
tehpwnOpen*07:50
K-Ryan3D Acceleration07:50
Toxhave a big big problem can anyone help me ?07:50
surgyvideo game07:50
K-RyanThere ARE games and stuff for Linux07:50
bxnpwhat is your problem tox07:50
K-RyanNot just video games surgy07:50
tehpwnSo like, you can play games and stuff? Sweet.07:50
renatoyeah, but they suck big time07:51
surgywell modeling and graphics07:51
Toxmy mic's sound gone07:51
K-RyanYeah tehpwn, when you're done fixing everything I'll show you how to find bunches of em.07:51
Toxi tried on windows its ok07:51
K-RyanI know you were having some problem before07:51
renato...and they all bite07:51
bxnpgone, what do you mean did it worked before07:51
K-RyanNo they don't renato07:51
Toxi checked the settings seems its ok too07:51
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K-RyanThey're free(as in open source) don't cost anything, and they aren't meant to be great big 978234324 hour long games.07:51
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tehpwnK-ryan, what games can you play? Cuz I have heard about UT games... What else?07:51
K-RyanQuick time wasters07:51
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K-RyanWell tehpwn yes some games that are for Windows work for Linux too07:52
bxnprun alsamixer and see if its maybe muted07:52
K-RyanQuake series, I think UT2007 is going to07:52
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K-RyanBut most commercial games are for Windows which you need Wine for07:52
renatowith wine, but it uses tremendous resources07:52
tehpwnYeah, UT games have always been loads of fun.07:52
K-RyanWhich is why there ARE games for Linux07:52
hansowhen I look at the file /dev/sndstat it says MIDI: not enabled in config. how can I enable it?07:52
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renatoyeah, but they suck ass07:53
K-RyanOh?07:53
K-RyanHow many have you played?07:53
renatostick to windows for gaming07:53
K-RyanName them07:53
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Toxbxnp: is there an application like device manager to remove my soundcard it cud be found again ?07:53
renatoI can't even remember the names07:53
K-RyanExactly, tehpwn ignore him07:53
tehpwnHehe, heated debate on weather or not linux has games....07:53
renatobut one involved tux driving a delivery van07:53
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K-RyanHeh I just came across that one =)07:53
renatoand that one did it, I just stopped after that07:53
K-RyanWell do you have OpenGL setup right?07:54
tehpwnLol, that dosen't sound to intense... Lol.07:54
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K-RyanBecause if you don't you can barely even play it.07:54
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K-Ryantehpwn, I know07:54
BluesKajgames ? buy a PS or Wii or ... leave linux to computer users :)07:54
renatoit's such a simple game, but it eats up so much comp resources07:54
K-RyanHold on I think I'll run it and see how it is07:54
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BluesKaj!games07:54
ubotwoInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org07:54
tehpwnI don't have many to spare, so not really interested...07:54
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surgylinux.......opensource get opensource games..... doesnt planeshift have a port to linux? i know wolfenstein does (thats a great game)07:55
tehpwnOMG, how long does this upgrade usually take?07:55
renatothe fan wasn't enough, my computer had to start a backup diesel engine just to cool down07:55
tehpwnWater-Cooling FTW!07:55
renatoand the gaming experience oh my07:55
BluesKajclean yer processor fan07:55
bxnpit can take an hour if your connection is slow, and then its installing etc etc07:56
renatoit was a joke07:56
surgylol mine sounds like a vacume with rocks in it :) i have a 10k rpm proc fam thats going out07:56
renato:-|07:56
bxnpit allways takes a long time if you upgrade from a new install tehpwn07:56
tehpwnI cleaned my ps2 out yesterday. That baby runs so much better now :-D07:56
K-RyanOkay I just ran the game07:56
K-RyanI had this and the game running07:56
renatodid it stink?07:56
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K-RyanWith 512 RAM and 1.8Ghz processor07:56
renatoI bet it did07:56
K-Ryan45FPS07:56
tehpwnbxnp, ok, well I am so I guess I'll just wait it out...07:56
K-RyanAnd while it is geared toward younger fellows, it didn't "suck ass"07:56
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Toxso ... is there device manager like application in kubuntu ?07:57
bxnpis it still downloading or already installing07:57
bxnpoh sorry tox, ehm dunno07:57
bxnpnever used it07:57
tehpwnApears to be installing stuff... Currently installing open office?07:58
renatodevice manager? Just stick your device in and it'll start working07:58
BluesKajK-Ryan, a friendly reminder that this is a family oriented chat07:58
K-RyanBluesKaj he said it07:58
K-RyanI was just telling him that it didn't07:58
renatoha ha07:58
renatoI did07:58
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bxnpah oke07:58
BluesKajno point repeating tho07:58
K-RyanI suppose07:58
bxnpwell just wait, and take a look one or now07:58
renatoI used to get told off by my teachers in school for things my friends said, I got so mad at the teacher07:59
tehpwnNot only is my internet not god like, my pc specs aren't that impressive either... So yeah :(07:59
BluesKaj<-- not a teacher ...just an old retired guy who still thinks the word "suck" shouldn't allowed either :)08:00
tehpwnI have to go out for a bit, will be back in like a half hour...08:00
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renatoso, back to my topic; is there a kubuntu application for easy gui network management? I'm setting up a small 18 machines office with a nice server and I'm no IT genius.08:01
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K-Ryananother office running Linux08:01
renatoor better, a network kde suite08:01
K-RyanScore for Linux!08:01
BluesKaj!server08:01
ubotwoUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/08:01
renatoread there, on the second line; it comes with no GUI08:02
renatoso I put kubuntu-desktop on top of it08:02
BluesKaj!GUI-server08:02
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/08:02
BluesKaj!GUI08:02
ubotwoThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)08:02
renatoyeah well, thanks anyway08:03
renatobye08:03
cpk1renato: i think you are looking for something like dhcpd (dont think it has a gui though)08:03
K-Ryanbye renato08:03
BluesKajone can use kubuntu as a server with apache etc and KDE desktop08:03
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renatoexactly blueskaj, but to do all the maintenance work, one needs to be a rocket scientist08:04
cpk1renato: if you just want to serve ips then dhcpd should work just fine08:04
BluesKajbut wireless with kubuntu needs some work from all reports08:04
renatooh well08:05
renatothanks08:05
renatobye08:05
BluesKajheh, rocket software is 15 yrs old in most cases :)08:05
cpk1renato: what are you trying to do?08:05
K-RyanHe left08:05
BluesKajthe space shuttle still uses computers from the 70s08:06
cpk1blah 30 second lag here and going up08:06
Theoryif it ain't broke...08:06
K-Ryantake it apart and fix it =)08:06
cpk1what did he want to do? just serve ips?08:07
K-Ryan"setup a network" is all i read08:07
BluesKaj an office network08:07
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K-Ryananyone know any good opengl game packages?08:08
BluesKajprolly promised the boss he could save money by dumping windows and using linux08:08
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K-Ryanhe could too, just getting it to work =)08:08
HymnToLifeK-Ryan, armagetron, openarena...08:09
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BluesKajyup , dunno if samba is up to the task08:09
K-Ryannah, played those on windows already08:09
K-Ryanplus i have quake 3 =P08:09
cpk1well if all he needed to do was hand out ips, that is no where near rocket science =P08:09
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mefisto__bxnp: I tried purging/reinstalling both kontact and korganizer, and removed .kde/share/apps/korganizer and .kde/share/apps/kontact before reinstalling. Still no good.08:11
bxnpehm,08:11
K-Ryanmefisto__ still having trouble with that root thing?08:11
bxnpwell then i dont know, did you google already on your problem08:11
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mefisto__K-Ryan: what trouble was that?08:11
K-Ryanmefisto__: i dont know, i thought you were having trouble opening something before without root08:12
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tehpwnI'm back for a bit... upgrade is still running08:12
K-RyanNot that I know how to fix it.... just curious08:12
K-Ryantehpwn, www.sauerbraten.org08:13
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mefisto__bxnp: I found a few mentions of the exact problem in an old forum somewhere, and one reply saying the problem has been addressed. But couldn't find the solution anywhere08:13
K-Ryanrenato doesn't know what he was talking about =P08:13
tehpwnIMO, Quake4 was an amazing game!08:13
dopemy harddrives aren't being mounted automatically08:13
K-RyanNever played the fourth08:13
dopefrom my windows install08:13
tehpwnYeah I played it on XP, it was a sweet game. Fell in love and beat it in two sittings.08:13
K-Ryani was reading some list of top 10 free games for linux08:14
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K-Ryanit was an off site so it wasnt anything official08:14
K-Ryanbut it had some okay stuff on it08:14
K-Ryannow if only i could remember the link...08:14
tehpwnk-ryan, this game looks pretty sweet. How hard was it to get OpenGL running?08:14
K-RyanIt wasn't too bad08:15
bxnpmefisto__, i am sorry08:15
K-RyanJust needed a pointer here and there08:15
bxnptehpwn,  your update already done '08:15
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K-RyanKnow what kind of vid card you have tehpwn?08:15
tehpwn'Unpacking replacement python... '08:15
tehpwnNo, it's still upgrading....08:15
K-RyanAh, selecting an unpacking08:16
bxnp:)08:16
K-Ryantakes forever...08:16
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K-Ryanand if you see some kind of "locale" error dont worry08:16
mefisto__bxnp: thanks for your help. you've given me an idea. I'll try with a new user. If that works I'll try copying the korganizer directories to my usual user location08:16
tehpwnMy vid card? Like I said my specs aren't impressive....08:16
K-Ryanthats what im told anyway, and im running fine08:16
K-Ryanno tehpwn the actual card08:16
tehpwnIt's onbard intel crap08:16
K-RyanMmm, don't know then08:16
K-RyanI have Ati08:16
K-RyanLet me take a look though08:16
tehpwnLucky, what card?08:16
K-Ryan!drivers08:17
tehpwnOh crap, I have to go08:17
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/08:17
K-RyanRadeon 980008:17
tehpwnba back in like half hour08:17
K-RyanSee you later then =P08:17
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K-Ryan!fglrx08:17
ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:17
bxnplol, i did that allso ones to solve a problem08:17
bxnpit worked, but still did not figure out what was wrong08:17
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bxnpanybody tried sonbird already08:19
bxnpsongbird i meant08:19
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|kosmo|somone can help me how i can change the default broswer to firefox not konquerror08:19
|kosmo|?08:19
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bxnpgo to  systemsettings08:20
|kosmo|ok08:20
|kosmo|and08:20
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bxnpthen go to kde components08:20
bxnpand there you see default applicantions08:21
|kosmo|ok08:21
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bxnpchange it to whatever08:21
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|kosmo|thanks man08:21
|kosmo|=[08:21
|kosmo|=] 08:21
surgy!nvidia08:21
ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:21
bxnptell me if it worked |kosmo|08:21
|kosmo|ok] 08:22
surgyso anyone had experince with the geforce4 ti4200 ?08:22
capcombxnp: this does not work here08:22
bxnpwhat do you mean capcom08:23
K-Ryan!fglrx08:23
ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:23
K-RyanTry that surgy ;)08:23
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|kosmo|bxnp08:23
|kosmo|not work08:23
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surgyk-ryan: thanks but i was wandering how it performs on opengl apps08:23
K-RyanOh, how much RAM is on the card?08:23
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surgyk-ryan: 12808:23
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K-RyanOh you're fine08:24
bxnprestart your x server and relog into your desktop08:24
capcombxnp: i configured in the system settings firefox as default browser, but when i click on a link in an email, konqeror starts but not firefox08:24
K-RyanThat's what I've got08:24
K-RyanI can run HL2 on Windows with 512 RAM and a 1.8Ghz processor08:24
K-RyanAnd 128 vid ram08:24
K-RyanWhat are your  other specs?08:24
capcombxnp: i made this setting already a week ago and did some reboots08:25
bxnpand it did not work08:25
bxnpstrange cause overhere it works08:25
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surgyk-ryan: kewl yeah i know its great with DX9 i have been playing Savage and doom3 on windows, just wandering how great it will be without DX08:25
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bxnpit should work08:25
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bxnpwhat kind off version kubuntu you are running08:25
capcomedgy08:25
capcom6.1008:25
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surgyk-ryan: 512 mb ram Athlon64 +3200 at 2.2ghz nforce chipset08:26
bxnptest: http://www.postproductie.nl08:26
K-RyanWell surgy I was running (www.sauerbraten.org) and it was a tiny bit slower.08:26
K-RyanYeah no doubt you'll be fine.08:26
surgyk-ryan: dual sata 80 gb 7200 rpm western digitals running in IDE mode08:26
mefisto__what's the command to remove a user?08:26
|kosmo|08:26
|kosmo|bxnp08:26
|kosmo|its dont work08:26
K-RyanYou might experience slight slow downs just might need to turn down the resolution a setting.08:26
bxnpwait a sec08:27
K-RyanOh I can get beryl now...08:27
K-Ryan!beryl08:27
ubotwoBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:27
capcombxnp: here firefox does it.. but when opening a link in thunderbird it doesn't. is there another setting to make in thunderbird?08:27
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bxnpoh you have app specific settings08:28
surgyk_ryan saurbratten looks like it could make a bad ass rpg08:28
bxnplike when you use a non kde program08:29
bxnplike thunderbird08:29
bxnpi believe you can change the settings in the program08:29
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K-Ryansurgy I know, the engine is open source so I hope that will be done eventually08:29
capcomusing the gui or modifying the config file?08:29
K-RyanI actually started modifying one of the levels with some friends to make it rpg friendly.08:29
K-RyanThe official game maker is also making a single player kind of rpg for it08:30
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K-Ryan"Sauerbraten - Eisenstern"08:30
mefisto__what's the command to remove a user?08:30
oleczekdeluser08:30
oleczekrmuser08:30
K-Ryansurgy it's great fun though because in game you can edit the maps and it's a very flexible engine08:30
surgyk_ryan: whats the progress on that rpg they mentioned?08:30
K-RyanConsidering it's an ingame editor anyway, can build houses, cars, tanks...08:30
K-Ryansurgy it's not too far as of 2 weeks ago when I played it08:31
|kosmo|!nvidia08:31
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ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:31
K-RyanIt has potential though08:31
K-Ryanit has a lot of eye candy too08:31
bxnpmefisto__, did you have any luck with your new user aproach08:32
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|kosmo|bxnp08:32
|kosmo|what i nedd to type in the line08:32
bxnpyes08:32
|kosmo|of defualt program08:32
|kosmo|i type firefox08:32
surgyok ill be back in a few hours i just finished my iso download of edgy kubuntu brb on kubuntu08:32
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K-Ryanwait surgy08:32
bxnpyes or you could put in the entire path to the binary08:33
K-Ryanyou could of upgraded kubuntu from dapper to edgy you know08:33
surgyyeah?08:33
bxnpwich will be something like /usr/bin/firefox08:33
mefisto__bxnp: no, didn't work08:33
surgyk-ryan: i had nothing to loose on dapper though so why not a fresh install?08:33
bxnp:(08:33
K-Ryansmaller download =P08:33
bronze_0_1hi all - semi-weird question. Is there a package I can install that will cause most development oolchains to be installed on my system>08:34
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bronze_0_1*?08:34
surgybrb08:34
bronze_0_1 (not too mention one that can help me type....)08:34
ubuntuWould someone help me figure out what's going with grub, It keeps giving me Error 22 every time I try to boot into it.08:35
K-Ryanubuntu ill google it for ya08:35
mefisto__ubuntu: is this a new install?08:36
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surgyk-ryan: dont go anywhere ill be back for that link08:36
ubuntuMefisto Yes08:36
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K-RyanWhat link surgy?08:36
TonrenCan the background slideshow pic-changer fade between pics?08:36
mefisto__ubuntu: have you tried to edit the grub menu when booting?08:36
surgyk-ryan: for the cubed rpg08:37
K-Ryanoh, here08:37
K-Ryanwww.cube.com08:37
K-RyanI think that works08:37
K-Ryannope...08:37
K-Ryanwww.cube.org ?08:37
ubuntumefisto_ No, I haven't I had openSUSE on my comp but decided to use Kubuntu and now my comp won't boot lol08:37
K-Ryannope...08:37
K-RyanHold on let me google it >.>08:37
surgynvm dont worry bout it man08:38
surgyill get it08:38
K-Ryani got it08:38
K-Ryanits just hard to remember the spelling08:38
surgygotta reinstall anyways aft k3b is finished08:38
K-Ryanim not going to be here in 10 min =P08:38
surgyso08:38
mefisto__ubuntu: it's probably the grub menu list has some wrong reference to your kubuntu partition08:38
surgygoole will be :)08:38
K-Ryanyou mean google will do it?08:39
K-Ryanalright then08:39
surgythanks though08:39
K-RyanNp08:39
surgyyou know if pcsx has a linux port?08:40
K-Ryandont know what pcsx is08:40
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surgypsx emulator08:41
surgyok see you guys in a little bit08:41
mefisto__ubuntu: take a look at your /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if there's anything obviously wrong, like looking to boot from the wrong disk/partition08:41
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K-RyanHow do I start up Beryl?08:41
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ubuntumefisto_ Okay, Bringing it up right now..08:42
apokryphosubotwo: beryl08:42
ubotwoapokryphos: Error: "beryl" is not a valid command.08:42
apokryphos!beryl08:42
ubotwoBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:42
K-RyanI know08:42
K-RyanAnd I'm looking through the forum08:42
K-RyanAnd I can't find the command to start it08:43
stdinK-Ryan: you normally run "beryl-manager"08:43
K-RyanOr an icon...08:43
K-RyanThanks, that's what I needed08:43
K-Ryanexcept it doesn't work o.O08:43
stdinrun it from konsole, and look for wrrors08:43
stdin*errors :P08:43
K-Ryancommand not found08:43
stdinlooks like it's not installed08:44
|kosmo|stdin08:44
|kosmo|?08:44
stdin|kosmo|08:44
stdin?08:44
TonrenCan the background slideshow pic-changer fade between pics?08:44
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stdinTonren: probably not08:44
|kosmo|my problem is i want to change the defualt broswer in thunderbird to firefox how i can do that?08:44
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stdin|kosmo|: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser08:45
K-Ryanstdin: what do they mean by signing the repo with "wget....."08:45
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stdinK-Ryan: that's when you download the gpg key that they sign the packages with, and add it to the apt keys08:46
|kosmo|stdin08:46
stdin|kosmo|08:46
|kosmo|i dont belevie how you dont all that08:46
|kosmo|know08:46
|kosmo|know all that08:46
|kosmo|stdin how much time you in linux08:47
|kosmo|?08:47
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stdin|kosmo|: I've used linux for about 10 years now08:47
|kosmo|you relly good08:47
|kosmo|=] 08:47
stdinI've leaned from experience :)08:48
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ubuntumefisto_ Eh, How would I go about looking at the grub menu.lst on my harddrive using liveCD?08:50
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stdinubuntu: mount the partition first08:50
K-Ryansorry, had a phone call08:50
|kosmo|no smart like experience man08:50
|kosmo|!!08:50
|kosmo|=] 08:50
mefisto__bxnp: here's something that might give you a clue. I can now start korganizer from konsole, but not from the K menu with "run command". I just want it to start when I click the reminder daemon icon on the taskbar08:50
K-Ryanstdin: how would I sign it?08:50
mefisto__ubuntu: is your disk mounted?08:50
capcomstdin: thanks, this is the solution for me as well. after executing update-alternatives and setting firefox as default also in thunderbird the "right" browser is used08:50
stdinK-Ryan: you don't, it's already signed by the people who make it. You just add the signature to the keys in apt08:50
K-Ryanuhh, don't know how to do that either, type the line in konsole?08:51
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K-RyanI just did that except it said gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.08:51
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K-RyanI got a 404 Not found08:52
mebsdwhat's latest version? does kubuntu work well in laptop?08:52
K-Ryanmebsd slow down08:52
stdinK-Ryan: which command are you doing ?08:52
K-RyanLatest version of Kubuntu?08:52
K-Ryanstdin: sudo apt-get install beryl08:53
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mebsdyou speak english?08:53
K-RyanYes....08:53
stdinK-Ryan: what repository is it?08:53
mebsdso you don't know the meaning of "latest version of kubuntu"?08:53
K-Ryandeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main08:53
K-Ryanmebsd you said "what's the latest version"08:53
mebsdoh sorry08:54
mebsdyes i mean the latest version of kubuntu08:54
K-RyanThank you...08:54
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bxnpmefisto__, brb in 30 min, need to get some food :)08:54
stdinmebsd: 6.10 Edgy Eft08:54
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mebsdi'm dling 6.10 is it latest08:54
gnomefreakmebsd: edgy uses 3.5.5 i believe08:54
K-Ryanstdin: what about feisty?08:54
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stdinK-Ryan: this one should work "wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"08:54
gnomefreakmebsd: yes latest stable08:54
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stdinK-Ryan: feisty isn't out yet08:55
mebsdbut it dosn't say fiesty08:55
K-Ryanstdin: thought it was out for testing08:55
gnomefreakmebsd: feisty isnt out yet08:55
K-Ryanstdin: put that in my repos?08:55
gnomefreakK-Ryan: it is08:55
stdinK-Ryan: it's an alpha, but it's not a release08:55
gnomefreakK-Ryan: but not wide testing yet way too unstable08:55
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ubuntumefisto_ http://pastebin.co.uk/9350 That's my grub menu.lst08:55
stdinK-Ryan: no, just run the command in konsole08:55
K-Ryangnomefreak: then that is the latest release, just not the latest stable release =P08:55
gnomefreaki suggest waiting till beta to test it08:55
mebsdwhat's so what's special about fiesty08:55
gnomefreakK-Ryan: no its not a release08:55
K-RyanOk ok08:56
K-RyanI get it08:56
gnomefreakK-Ryan: release == stable08:56
claudioI use Kubuntu6.06. How set it reiserfs?08:56
stdinK-Ryan: it hasn't been released yet, it's a pre-release :)08:56
gnomefreakmebsd: nothing yet really08:56
K-RyanThere we go, worked that time, thanks stdin08:56
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stdin:)08:56
ubuntumefisto_ nothing really looks out of place except it's on hd1 instead of hd0?08:56
mebsdok will it work well with aspire 3620?08:56
stdinmebsd: get the live CD and test it out08:57
mebsdme getting it08:57
gnomefreakmebsd: too early to tell. i suggest you stay with 6.1008:57
Grumpfhi. i have a problem setting up wlan with kubuntu 6.10 . i heard i need madwifi, but i have some problems, sudo m-a a-i madwifi cannot find all needed packets08:57
K-RyanSetting up wifi on laptops can be a pain but you can do it08:57
Theoryfffffffffffffffdd08:57
K-RyanYou just might need to be wired in until you get wifi working08:57
Grumpfis anyone here who knows about installing madwifi?08:57
mebsdi only want wlan card to work in 6.10, and i can run kde, i'll be laughing08:57
mebsdeasy to satisfied08:58
Grumpfok, wired connection is possible, i got that working08:58
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mebsdthe card is atheros ar500g.. will it work? in 6.1008:59
Grumpfhey mebsd, i think we have a similar problem. i have an Atheros ar5bxb61 chip08:59
mebsdyou get connection?09:00
ubuntuCould someone help me with my grub problem please?09:00
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Grumpfno, not jet. iwconfig says "no wireless extension" on all slots09:00
K-Ryanuhh, how do i use the themes from beryl? o.O09:01
mefisto__ubuntu: you have XP and kubuntu, right?09:01
Grumpfbut at least i have a wired connection available that works09:01
ubuntumefisto_ Yes09:01
mefisto__ubuntu: 2 separate disks?09:01
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mebsdbut wireless is the whole point of laptop09:01
ubuntuMefisto_ Yes, XP is on my 300 gig sata and Kubuntu is on my 80 gig IDE.09:02
stdinK-Ryan: beryl has no themes, emerald has the themes09:02
K-Ryanyeah09:02
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capcomubuntu: is this your entire menu.lst? no default setting?09:02
K-Ryanor whatever, how do i use it?09:02
tehpwnI'm back! Woot!09:02
mefisto__ubuntu: is XP on the 1st disk, kubuntu on 2nd disk?09:02
stdinK-Ryan: you just open the theme manager, and click on the themw09:02
stdin*theme09:02
tehpwnbxnp, You still here?09:03
K-RyanOkay, now that I have beryl what do I do with it?09:03
bxnpyeah09:03
bxnpis it done09:03
tehpwnYeah, upgrade is done.09:03
bxnpeating09:03
tehpwnkk09:03
bxnpoke now do apt-cache search ndiswrapper09:03
K-RyanI don't get what beryl does =(09:03
stdinK-Ryan: have you started it ?09:03
K-Ryani ran beryl-manager09:04
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mebsdGrumpf: what laptop u use?09:04
gnomefreakstdin: auqamarine is an alternative to emerald for kde ;)09:04
phobiacK-Ryan: You have xgl running?09:04
stdinK-Ryan: have the window decorations changed ?09:04
K-Ryan?09:04
K-RyanThe ? is to both of you09:04
surgy!nvidia09:04
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ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:04
tehpwnbxnp, and then?09:04
Grumpfmebsd: i have an ASUS Z53T09:04
bxnpdo you know see ndiswrapper-utils09:04
phobiacYour card is ati right?09:04
stdingnomefreak: yeah, I know it fits well09:05
K-RyanI already setup opengl09:05
K-Ryanand got it to work09:05
tehpwnIt listed a bunch of stuff...09:05
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bxnpyes ")09:05
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bxnpgood09:05
gnomefreakaquamarine* even09:05
bxnpyou have more sources now so you will get more apps returned09:05
bxnpoke do09:05
phobiacYou see the red gem icon in your taskbar?09:05
tehpwnSweet.09:05
bxnpapt-get install ndiswrapper-utils09:05
K-Ryanyuh huh09:05
bxnpcheck the spellijng09:05
gnomefreakalso heliodor but i havent played with it yet09:05
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ubuntumefisto_ Sorry didn't post the whole thing http://pastebin.co.uk/9351 there's the whole thing09:05
phobiacClick it and see if the window manager is set to Beryl09:06
tehpwnAwesome, it'09:06
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tehpwns going09:06
phobiacIf it isn't click beryl.09:06
stdinK-Ryan: right click on the beryl icon in the system tray, go to "select window manager" and choose Beryl09:06
tehpwnOh, well it's done allready bxnp...09:06
bxnpgood, tell me when this is done, and then we are going to install the driver09:06
bxnpyou have a fast pc09:06
bxnp:)09:06
bxnpand connection09:06
K-Ryani click beryl and everything flickers then comes back09:06
tehpwnEh, it's a P409:06
bxnpworking on a p3 lappy overhere09:07
K-Ryani see some "XGL Abesnt, checking for NVIDIA"09:07
bxnpoke do you have the latest windows driver for your wifi card tehpwn09:07
phobiacYou need xgl set up.09:07
bxnpif not, go get them09:07
K-RyanWhat's xgl?09:07
tehpwnI have the original cd...09:07
stdinK-Ryan: have you installed "xserver-xgl" ?09:07
bxnpno get the latest one09:07
K-Ryandon't know09:07
phobiacIt's for the graphics09:07
bxnpfor your chipset09:07
tehpwnOk. Gimme a minute.09:07
stdinK-Ryan: howto  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl09:07
surgyok so im follo09:08
bxnpwhat kind of card is it anyway09:08
K-Ryani cant just sudo apt-get install it?09:08
bxnpback in 5 min, need to finisch my food09:08
bxnpand get my dessert :)09:08
phobiacK-Ryan: This guide might work out for you too http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL09:08
tehpwnOkdoke09:08
surgyim following he nvidia setup tutorial and it says to go to synaptic and it seams like kde has apedt09:08
tehpwnSweet, I can get firefox w/ apt-get now :-D09:08
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K-RyanMy card isn't under supported hardware09:08
bxnpfirst things first09:08
bxnpyour wifi card09:09
bxnpbtw do you need wpa support09:09
tehpwnYeah, I'm getting the drivers atm, hehe09:09
phobiacK-Ryan: Is it an ati card?09:09
tehpwnNope09:09
K-RyanYep09:09
bxnponly wep09:09
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K-RyanRadeon 980009:09
bxnpor open09:09
bxnpno encryption i meant09:09
phobiacAre you using fglrx for the driver?09:09
K-RyanBut the help thing says "Radeon X300 or Mobility Radeon 9700 SE09:09
K-Ryan"09:09
surgyi need help opening the restricted repos to install my nvidia vid card09:09
K-RyanYep, fglrx09:09
tehpwnbxnp, yeah just WEP09:09
mefisto__ubuntu: does XP boot OK?09:10
K-Ryansurgy i thought you had intel?09:10
bxnpoke do this tehpwn09:10
ubuntumefisto_ No.. Grub won't boot so I can't get into any of my OS's lol09:10
bxnpapt-get install wlassistant09:10
surgyk-ryan: i have geforce 4 ti420009:10
K-Ryanoh yeah, someone else had the intel...09:10
phobiacOpen a konsole and type glxgears and tell me what happens.09:10
bxnpits a nice and simple program for organizing your wifi connections09:10
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K-Ryanit runs09:10
K-Ryanthats what happens09:10
Lynouretehpwn: Are you aware how bad wep is? It will keep people from accidentally ending up in your network but not much more.09:10
tehpwnbxnp, the newest driver is a .exe... does this matter?09:11
surgyso how do i unrestrict my repos?09:11
phobiacIt should work fine, just follow the guide I posted for setting up xgl. I'm no expert though so I could be wrong.09:11
bxnpehm what card do you have tehpwn09:11
stdin!repos | surgy09:11
ubotwosurgy: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:11
tehpwnLynoure, I also hide my ssid, but I'm actually not to concerned with security... not really hiding anything09:11
phobiacMy card is ati too, apparently the ati cards aren't supported well. It works fine for me though.09:11
mefisto__your grub.lst looks pretty much like mine, except I don't have the "map (hd0) (hd2)" business at the end.09:12
tehpwnwmp54gs w/ speed booster09:12
Lynouretehpwn: you mean, really not minding sharing it? :)09:12
mebsdim dl kubuntu at 560KB/s09:12
mebsdis that fast or what, hahaha09:12
surgythe guid that the bot gives me is for synaptic......... kde has adept09:12
bxnpdo you have an inf file on your cd for your driver tehpwn09:12
bxnpifso use that one09:13
tehpwnlynoure, either way I'm not scared.. nothing that needs to be secure on my pc's09:13
bxnpwith09:13
K-Ryanphobiac what's the difference between emerald and aquamarine?09:13
bxnpndiswrapper -i file.inf09:13
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tehpwnbxnp, when I type "apt-get install wlassistant" it gives an error09:13
stdinsurgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:13
bxnpwhat error09:13
Lynouretehpwn: I'd still recommend against it unless you firewall outgoing traffic, otherwise a spammer in your wifi could mean you ISP takes it on you.09:13
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tehpwnOops never mind, I forgot to do sudo, bxnp09:14
bxnphe should use wpa in my opinion09:14
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phobiacK-Ryan: They both manage how your windows look, aquamarine is designed to work better with KDE if I remember correctly09:14
bxnpcause wep is easily cracked with programs like kismet with aircrack09:14
phobiacEmerald works fine for me09:14
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mefisto__ubuntu: I don't know why the "map" lines are there, but you could try removing them and changing the XP section to root (hd0,0)09:14
K-Ryani got both09:15
K-Ryani think09:15
mefisto__ubuntu: but make sure you keep a backup09:15
bxnpbut fist things first let us first connect to his ap09:15
surgystdin: ok but which repo do i need for nvidia?09:15
tehpwnSo what's next bxnp?09:15
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stdinsurgy: you need the restricted repo09:15
tehpwnwlassistant is allready installed09:15
bxnpdid you  do ndiswrapper -i file.inf09:16
bxnpoke good09:16
phobiacK-Ryan: Okay. Did you set up xgl though?09:16
bxnpfrom your cd09:16
ubuntumefisto_ Do that on the XP disk or the Kubuntu? lol09:16
K-RyanUhh, trying to figure that out still09:16
phobiacOkay09:16
surgythat link you gave me doesnt have a section on restricted repos only comercial multiverse and universe09:16
stdinK-Ryan: follow the guide, just ignore the supported hardware part, see if it works09:16
tehpwnOk, I placed the BCMWL5.inf on my desktop.... so what do I type in the terminal again?09:17
stdinsurgy: the steps are the same. just replace the word "universe" with "restricted"09:17
mefisto__ubuntu: do that in the XP section in grub.lst. But make a backup of the current grub.lst before making any changes09:17
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surgyok09:17
bxnpndiswrapper -i BCMWL5.inf09:17
bxnpsudo ofcourse09:18
tehpwnapt-get install wlassistant09:18
tehpwnoops09:18
mefisto__ubuntu: it's lines 148, 151, 152 in what you pasted09:18
K-Ryanwhat's this important note about?09:18
tehpwnInstalling bcmwl509:18
tehpwncouldn't copy BCMWL5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.09:18
K-Ryanlosing font and mouse pointer?09:18
tehpwnbxnp,09:19
tehpwnInstalling bcmwl509:19
tehpwncouldn't copy BCMWL5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.09:19
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bxnpoke09:20
bxnpdo this09:20
K-RyanWhat does beryl even do?09:20
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phobiacMakes some eyecandy09:20
K-RyanI don't want to mess up my Kubuntu trying to install it09:20
K-Ryaneye candy as far as what? themes?09:20
K-RyanI like my theme09:20
ubuntumefisto_ Tried doing sudo nano menu.list got into the menu but now when i try to save it changed it tells me permission denied.09:20
phobiacK-Ryan: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=xgl%20beryl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&sa=N&tab=wv09:21
mefisto__ubuntu: you've probably got the disk mounted read-only09:21
K-Ryani changed my mind, i want it09:21
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boblenyHi, can I get some help with my LAMP set up?09:22
stdinK-Ryan: it's a thing you didn't know you wanted, until you knew it existed :D09:22
phobiacK-Ryan: As a precaution I'd download irssi and familarize yourself with it a little09:22
K-Ryanwhat is irssi? o.O09:22
phobiacThat way if something bad happens and you're bumped to command line only you can still consult with us09:23
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phobiacIt's for irc09:23
tehpwnOh, you guys are on the XGL topic! I watched a video about that on google. Looks really fun to have.09:23
stdinirssi = a command line IRC client09:23
mebsdirssi for losers09:23
tehpwnNever tried it myself though...09:23
mebsdhehe09:23
mefisto__ubuntu: I think the problem might be related to the fact you have a sata disk there. I'm not exactly sure how to handle that09:23
ubuntu_#kubuntu.pl09:23
K-RyanUhh, that doesn't sound fun09:23
phobiacmebsd: Thanks :(09:23
bxnpyou have to copy the .sys and the.cat file to the same dir09:23
tehpwnOIC09:23
bxnpwhere you put your .inf file09:24
ubuntumefisto_ Okay, I changed permissions on it, Saved it now I'll try to reboot and see if I can get into grub now.09:24
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phobiacK-Ryan: Happened to me when I had some bad settings, luckily I figured out what to do without help, but it's never bad to be prepared.09:24
stdinK-Ryan: if you can't get X to start for some reason, you can still come here to ask us what to do :)09:24
vikal#ubuntu.pl09:24
mefisto__ubuntu: I think the problem might be related to the fact you have a sata disk there. I'm not exactly sure how to handle that09:24
K-RyanOr I could pop in my live cd ;)09:24
stdinvikal: #ubuntu-pl09:24
bxnpthere is more tehpwn09:24
phobiacK-Ryan: That works too09:25
ubuntumefisto_ I though Kubuntu supported sata's? lol09:25
tehpwnbxnp?09:25
K-RyanNow I have to reinstall beryl >.>09:25
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wilmanhow to locate the router's ip adress?09:25
mefisto__ubuntu: perhaps it should read (sd0,0)? I'm not sure. I've never used a sata disk with linux09:25
tehpwnwhatsmyip.com09:25
K-Ryanwilman usually 192.168.1.1 in your internet browser09:25
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bxnpdid you copy  them to the same dir09:26
tehpwnYeah, they are all on the desktop bxnp09:26
bxnpno do ndiswrapper bcblal.inf09:26
bxnpwhatever its called09:26
tehpwnok09:26
mefisto__does anyone else know? is a sata disk referenced as sd0?09:26
tehpwnbxnp, do I do -i also?09:26
K-Ryanhey umm, sudo gedit doesn't work, gedit should be replaced with kate?09:26
bxnpno09:26
stdin1st sata disk will be sda09:27
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phobiacK-Ryan: Yeah09:27
stdinmefisto__: 09:27
phobiacKate is the gedit of kubuntu09:27
K-RyanThought so09:27
K-RyanJust wasn't sure09:27
K-RyanI mean I knew gedit wouldnt work09:27
mefisto__stdin: and in grub, is it sd0 rather than hd0?09:27
tehpwnbxnp, says I need to choose an option...09:27
K-RyanJust didn't know if Kate was right...09:27
bxnpoh oke09:27
bxnpwith the -i09:27
stdinmefisto__: no, it should still be hd009:27
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i BCMWL5.inf09:28
tehpwnbcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it09:28
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~$09:28
bxnpyou have to do everything as root09:28
bxnpoke09:28
bxnplisten09:28
bxnpdo ndiswrapper -l09:28
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bxnpwhat do you see09:28
bxnpwhat does it say09:28
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -l09:28
tehpwnInstalled ndis drivers:09:28
tehpwnbcmwl5  invalid driver!09:28
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~$09:28
ubuntumefisto_ Okay, I'll be right back see if this works.09:28
mefisto__ubuntu: good luck09:29
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capcomone little quersion: how can i get my kubuntu distribution / kde to start with num lock enabled09:30
capcomquestion09:30
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|kosmo|on system settings09:30
|kosmo|kyboard09:30
|kosmo|and mouse09:30
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|kosmo|and then you have num lock on start of system09:30
petra!lisa09:31
ubotwolisa - LAN information server for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information09:31
|kosmo|capcom:09:31
|kosmo|ok09:31
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capcom|kosmo|: yes, of course.. sometimes i should tell someobe to remove the poitatoes from my eyes. thanx09:31
capcom;)09:31
mefisto__why is numlock on not the default?09:32
bxnptehpwn, do pwd09:33
K-RyanHey09:33
K-RyanWhat does this mean?09:33
K-RyanIMPORTANT NOTE I recently found that if we start Gnome/KDE this way, we may lose font or mouse pointer configuration, since they don't get loaded with Xgl. The correct way that I found was to use "exec /etc/X11/Xsession" instead of gnome-session or startkde. Then you can put gnome-session or startkde as an Xsession argument, for example, "exec /etc/X11/Xsession startkde"09:33
capcommefisto__:  not within the kde like it seems..09:33
bxnpin wich dir are you09:33
phobiacK-Ryan: It's just configuration, unless you've changed the settings with your mouse don't worry.09:33
hassan2avaur:  voil ^^^09:33
vauroui je sais09:34
K-Ryanso it doesnt apply to me?09:34
K-Ryan!fr09:34
ubotwoAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:34
mefisto__capcom: just seems it would make more sense if that setting was numlock on by default09:34
tehpwnbxnp, I guess I'm not registered w/ the nickserv... I forgot my old password...09:34
bxnpnevermind09:34
bxnpdo pwd09:34
bxnpin your console09:34
capcommefisto__: if you don't use a laptop :)09:34
tehpwnkk09:34
mefisto__capcom: ah, ok09:34
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tehpwnSays: /home/tehpwn09:35
capcommefisto__: otherwise it might be tricky on logging in for example09:35
bxnpis this the same terminal where you did the ndiswrapper command09:35
tehpwnyeah09:35
bxnpoke you where not in the right dir when you did that command09:35
bxnpso what you do is this09:35
K-Ryanshould i reboot or restart x for this beryl stuff?09:35
bxnpndiswrapper -e blabla.inf09:36
mefisto__capcom: yep, makes sense now09:36
KyralK-Ryan: If you didn't make changes to your XOrg.conf09:36
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tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf09:36
tehpwnDriver bcmwl5.inf is not installed.Use -l to list installed drivers09:36
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~$09:36
Kyralthen you should just be able to run "beryl-manager" in a terminal09:36
ubuntu_mefisto_ No go.. It didn't work :(09:36
bxnpand then you do: cd Desktop and then you do the command ndiswrapper -i blabla.inf again09:36
capcombut what i wonder, in my bios num lock is set to enabled.. with windows this works, but kubuntu ignores it09:36
K-RyanBut the XGL thing says next time you restart blah blah blah09:36
bxnpsudo always09:36
bxnpwhen doing things like this09:36
KyralK-Ryan: Are you using Beryl or XGL09:37
tehpwnbxnp, okay09:37
K-RyanSetting XGL up09:37
Kyral(There is a difference, at least when using NVidia)09:37
KyralK-Ryan: ATI or NVidia?09:37
K-RyanAti09:37
bxnpwhat does ndiswrapper -l gives you09:37
Kyralnevermind...09:37
Kyrallol09:37
K-RyanRestarting X first then...09:37
KyralNVidia's newest drivers make X able to use AIGLX without XGL09:37
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo ndiswrapper -i BCMWL5.inf09:37
tehpwnbcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it09:37
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$09:37
phobiacK-Ryan: Nope. Not a bad idea to follow it's instructions anyway though.09:38
bxnpnow do ndiswrapper -e BCMWL5.inf09:38
hassan2avaur:  tu as du mal09:38
bxnpwith sudo09:38
tehpwnok09:38
bxnpsudo ndiswrapper -e BCMWL5.inf09:38
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tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf09:38
tehpwnDriver bcmwl5.inf is not installed.Use -l to list installed drivers09:38
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$09:38
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phobiacWhoops09:39
bxnpehm do sudo ndiswrapper -i the file09:39
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tehpwnbcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it09:40
bxnpshit,09:40
tehpwnWow I'm confused...09:40
bxnpyou should be able to remove it09:40
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tehpwnShould I reopen the konsole in root?09:40
ubuntu_mefisto_ Should I change it when booting into grub like hitting 'e' and change it to (hd0,2) ?09:41
bxnpthat will not solve it :)09:41
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tehpwnHumm09:42
bxnpgo to /etc/ndiswrapper09:42
tehpwncd to it>09:42
tehpwnor open it?09:42
bxnpthen ls -l09:42
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bxnpjust cd /etc/ndiswrapper09:42
phobiacK-Ryan: How's setting up XGL going?09:42
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:/etc/ndiswrapper$ ls -l09:42
tehpwntotal 409:42
tehpwndrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-01-19 03:57 bcmwl509:42
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:/etc/ndiswrapper$09:42
capcom|kosmo|: one more keyboard question after having a close look on the settings ;) - with windows i've set keyboard that when i have capslock enabled, i press shift to disable caps.. i am used to that, so i would like to have the kde to act in the same way. is this possible?09:42
bxnpnow rm that directory with  rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl509:43
mefisto__ubuntu_: sure, that's an easy way to test what will work. but are you trying to boot windows or kubuntu? windows should normally be (hd0,0) and kubuntu (hd1,0) if win is on 1st disk and kubuntu on 2nd disk09:43
tehpwnrm: cannot remove directory `/etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5': Permission denied09:44
bxnpsudo09:44
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|kosmo|capcom09:44
|kosmo|i dont understand09:44
tehpwnK, done09:44
|kosmo|you want with shift09:44
bxnpas a user you dont have the right's to remove those dir09:44
|kosmo|to disable09:44
|kosmo|caps look09:44
|kosmo|?09:44
capcomyes09:45
tehpwnYeah, I always forget the little things...09:45
|kosmo|oooo you need to make script09:45
bxnpnow go back cd to your desktop09:45
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bxnpand do ndiswrapper -l09:45
|kosmo|i dont know about thats type of scripts09:45
bxnpthis will tell you if the driver is loaded09:45
|kosmo|but try in ubuntu-dev09:45
tehpwnNOTHING!!!09:45
bxnpwhat nothgint09:45
tehpwnNO?09:45
bxnpnothing is loaded anymore09:46
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capcom|kosmo|: no problem, thanks anyway09:46
tehpwnThere are no drivers listed... Isn't that good?09:46
bxnpyep that's good :)09:46
wilman!router09:46
hak5fanHello I have a problem with cdemu. I've loaded the module using modprobe cdemu and loaded and mounted my cd image. The image is on a ntfs partition. all the files in the cdimage doesn't show up. The cd im having probelms with are the warcraft III install disk. And it's supposed to be a install.exe file in the root of the cd. Another strange thing is that cdemu seems to unload itself when I reboot. lsmod | grep cdemu came up with nothing....09:46
hak5fanDoes anyone have a solution09:46
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/09:46
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jageris amarok-xmms available somewhere for amarok 1.4.4?09:46
tehpwnLol, ok. I can understand how my 'nothing' was misunderstood... Lol.09:46
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bxnpit was the crude way because ndiswrapper -e should do the same09:46
wilman!router09:46
tehpwnOIC09:46
ubuntu_mefisto_ This is my fdisk http://pastebin.co.uk/9353 I have 2 IDE hd's and 1 sata.09:46
K-RyanOkay I tried starting the x session or whatever with the XGL09:46
bxnpoke you are on your desktop right09:46
tehpwnYep09:47
K-Ryanall it did was lag my computer really really bad09:47
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K-Ryanlike, REALLY, bad09:47
bxnpgive me the output pwd09:47
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$ pwd09:47
tehpwn/home/tehpwn/Desktop09:47
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$09:47
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bxnpgood, now type sudo ndiswrapper -i blabla.inf09:47
bxnpdont forget the sudo09:48
tehpwnOk09:48
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bvmwl5.inf09:48
tehpwnInstalling bvmwl509:48
tehpwncouldn't copy bvmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.09:48
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$09:48
phobiacK-Ryan: How new is your computer?09:48
bxnpdamm09:48
bxnpwait09:48
K-Ryan5 years new09:48
K-Ryaneverything has been upgraded except its 1.8ghz processor09:49
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phobiacK-Ryan: The processor might not be able to handle it.09:49
K-RyanI think it's safe to say it can't09:49
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tehpwnK-Ryan: Hehe, I renember my athlon xp 1.8ghx chip, man were those the days.09:49
phobiacI have to go09:49
K-RyanWell I mean, 5 years ago 1.8Ghz was great09:49
K-RyanSee ya' round phobiac09:50
tehpwnYeah I know it.09:50
phobiacSee ya09:50
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tehpwnClose friend of mine built a PC around the same time I built my first one, man his Barton core was smokin back then09:50
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K-RyanReally all I need is a new processor09:50
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K-RyanMight need a better PS for the processor though09:51
tehpwnThat's how I feel about my current pc also. 2ghz P4, It's a fairly new system, just sluggish at time with only 512 ram09:51
K-RyanMines a P4 too09:51
K-Ryansame ram as well09:51
K-Ryanthe computer runs like a charm its just with certain programs i experience slow downs09:52
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tehpwnWell, I used to be a pretty hardcore gamer untill I moved down to California... Lately I haven't had the money to go build a new gaming rig though... So sadly I'm stuck with this P409:53
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K-RyanI'm also quite a gamer09:53
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K-RyanAlthough since I got Kubuntu running I've gone on Windows once, because my brother needed help on his windows comp so...09:53
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bxnpreading, wait a sec09:54
K-RyanI'll get Wine running eventually and then XP will be a backup sort of09:54
tehpwnYeah, after the wireless starts working I hope I can get my iTunes running...09:54
ubuntu_mefisto_: Any ideas? Or should I just erase everything and start anew?09:54
tehpwnIs wine the one that costs money or is it Cedaga (sp?)09:54
bxnpah i got it09:54
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K-RyanUmm, Wine is free09:55
ubuntu_tehpwn: Cedega.09:55
K-RyanDon't know what Cedaga is09:55
ubuntu_tehpwn: Cedega used to be WineX09:55
tehpwnI believe it's the same concept at Wine.. ?09:55
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tehpwnOIC09:55
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bxnptehpwn, you have to read what i send you, dont just copy and paste09:55
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K-Ryanwell im going to get some use out of spending all that time setting up opengl09:55
bxnpthe name of your inf file is bcmwl.inf09:56
K-RyanCatch you guys later09:56
tehpwnOk, bxnp09:56
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bxnpi made an type o09:56
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tehpwnwait, did you send it allready? cuz i closed that other window... oops09:56
bxnpoke now check what i send you: sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf09:56
nate_tweaks to make kubuntu faster?09:56
bxnpofcourse dont forget to change to your Desktop09:57
tehpwnWait what? bxnp, I closed the priv. convo.. Did you send it in that?09:57
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PupUser62f272I've been trying to install Feisty, I tried the Herd2 (wouldn't boot), and today's daily (froze after probing)...anyone heard of this happening (I just want to make sure I'm not alone)?09:58
bxnpi mean do ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf in  the Desktop dir09:59
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bxnpdont forget the sudo allso10:00
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tehpwnOk, It says it's installed, bxnp10:00
bxnpahaha10:00
bxnpoke now do ndiswrapper -l10:00
bxnpand paste what it says10:00
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$ sudo ndiswrapper -l10:01
tehpwnInstalled ndis drivers:10:01
tehpwnbcmwl5  invalid driver!10:01
tehpwnbvmwl5  invalid driver!10:01
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop$10:01
bxnpehm the one are invalid10:01
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bxnpwell rm the drivers with ndiswrapper -e bcmwl510:01
bxnpand then bvmwl510:01
bxnpdownload the latest driver for your chipset10:02
bxnpcause these are not good10:02
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tehpwnRenember, the new driver is an exe... And I don't think you replyed... Does it matter that it's an exe?10:02
tehpwnbxnp10:02
bxnpand to an answer to your question it doesnt mind10:02
bxnpdo you have wine installed10:02
bxnpotherwise do apt-get install wine10:03
bxnpwith the app wine the app will extract the .exe files10:03
tehpwnok, installing wine10:03
bxnpyou have a broadcom chipset right :)10:03
tehpwnIDK10:03
tehpwnfor the onboard?10:04
tehpwnLAN10:04
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mebsdneed help setting up wireless in kde10:05
mebsdim in wireless assistance 0.5.510:05
tehpwnHehe, join the club...10:05
tehpwnbxnp, Wine is done.10:05
mebsdi see all available networks10:05
bxnpdo you have allso the .exe file10:05
tehpwnYes I have the exe downloaded allready10:05
bxnpnow do wine the name of the exe10:06
bxnpas user10:06
bxnpnot sudo10:06
mikkowww.nordea.fi10:06
mebsdis there a way to see the error log from that wirelss assistant?10:06
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mebsdi feel i'm very close to connection10:06
bxnpuse dmesg mebsd10:07
bxnpto see if everything is oke with your card10:07
bxnpbesides that wlablablab should give you an error message why it cannot connect10:08
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mebsdthat wireelss connection don't give me any erro rmessager10:08
mebsdjust says connection failed10:08
bxnpbtw mebsd the app cant connect to a network encrypted with wpa10:08
bxnpif that is the case you should wpa_supplicant10:08
mebsdhow to use wpa_supplicant. it's using wpa10:09
bxnpoke10:09
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bxnpwait i will give you a website10:09
mebsdnoooooo10:10
mebsdi don't want to spend a weekend getting wireless to work10:10
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tehpwnbxnp, it's not letting me remove the old dir.'s10:11
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ubuntu_Is my problem coming from having an unused 40 gig IDE as master and my Sata and 80 gig IDE as slaves?10:11
bxnpwhat do you mean10:11
Minataku!seen genii10:12
bxnpwhat noooo mebsd10:12
ubotwoI last saw genii (n=chatzill@H232.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca) 15h 24m 47s ago, quiting: "Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.5/2006071912] "10:12
tehpwnim doing sudo rm bcmwl510:12
tehpwnand it says i cant10:12
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tehpwnbecause its a dir.10:12
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Nookie^what package do i need when i get this error when i try to compile10:14
Nookie^- Didn't find KDE3 headers10:14
Nookie^-- Didn't find KDE3 core library10:14
Nookie^-- Didn't find the KDE3 dcopidl preprocessor10:14
hak5fantehpwn:  use rm -r [dir ] 10:14
bxnpwhere do you do that10:14
tehpwnhehe, I love hak5!10:14
bxnpif you remove a dir10:15
bxnpyou have to use10:15
bxnprm -rf10:15
bxnpbut becarefull with that10:15
mebsdbxnp you have that website?10:15
bxnpwell10:15
hak5fantehpwn: in terminal10:15
tehpwnYeah, I got it thanks10:15
bxnpwhat you could do is this: instal knetworkmanager mebsd10:15
hak5fanyour welcome10:15
tehpwnOk, now back to driver install10:15
bxnpthat is a frontend for the program10:15
bxnptry if it works10:15
mebsdi don't have that10:16
mebsdi'm using the live cd10:16
bxnpoh10:16
bxnpin that case you could install it, but it will take your ram space10:16
bxnpyou could install software with ap or adept with a live cd10:17
mebsdi got 1 gig so it's ok10:17
bxnpapt-get update10:17
bxnpand then install it10:17
mebsddon't have network..10:17
bxnptehpwn,10:17
bxnplol10:17
hak5fantehpwn: yes it's great10:17
bxnpin that case10:17
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bxnpyou are stuck10:17
mebsdso, no kubuntu for me..10:18
bxnptehpwn, oke do wine name.exe10:18
bxnpwhy not,10:18
ubuntu_mebsd: Can you hardwire into your internet instead of going wireless?10:18
tehpwnI allready extracted it bxnp10:18
tehpwnand I'm cd'd to it allready10:18
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bxnpwhere are the extracted files10:18
tehpwnand it tells me:10:18
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop/driver/WMP54GSv1.1_20050428/Drivers$ sudo ndiswrapper -i wmp54gs.inf10:18
tehpwnInstalling wmp54gs10:18
tehpwncouldn't copy wmp54gs.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.10:18
tehpwntehpwn@tuxbox:~/Desktop/driver/WMP54GSv1.1_20050428/Drivers$10:18
bobleny!shell10:18
ubotwoThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands10:19
bxnpuse pastebin tehpwn if you want to do that10:19
bxnpother wise you spam the channel10:19
tehpwnk, sry10:19
bobleny!shell script10:19
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/10:19
boblenyWhat is a shell script? is that like a windows bat file?10:19
RawSewageyes10:20
boblenyoh10:20
escI use a wmp54g10:20
ubuntu_esc: Linksys Wireless PCI card.10:20
escyes. with rt2500 driver. works great with WPA.10:21
bxnpthe rt2500 driver10:21
bxnpthat is in the kubuntu kernel right10:21
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escit comes with, yes10:22
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bxnpoke tehpwn10:22
eschowever, I update to the latest cvs10:22
bxnpdo sudo modprobe rt250010:22
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tehpwnbxnp, ok10:22
ubuntu_esc: I thought wmp54g used the rt61 driver?10:22
tehpwnnothing happened...10:23
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escwmp54g uses a few drivers...3 ones, maybe10:23
nate_join #alsa10:23
escI got lucky to buy the one with rt250010:23
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escwhat driver does tehpwn have?10:23
bxnpwhat is the chipname and version10:23
tehpwnI downloaed the latest ones from Linksys.com10:23
ubuntu_esc: Lol, When I had wireless going it gave me a headache because I had the rt61 and not rt25.10:24
bxnpno the one from linksys.com does not work10:24
escbxnp : what driver do you have?10:24
ubuntu_tehpwn : Don't use the ones from linksys.10:24
tehpwnNeither does the ones on the cd :-p10:24
bxnpyou need the one for your chipset10:24
ubuntu_tehpwn : they never work.10:24
tehpwnoic10:24
tehpwnbxnp, chipset of my wireless card of my mobo?10:25
ubuntu_tehpwn : Who's the maker of your chipset?10:25
bxnpoff your wifi card ofcourse10:25
tehpwnIDFK10:25
escyeah, what driver is it?!10:25
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bxnpwe are trying to install your wifi card right :)10:25
bxnpyes the chipset and the version10:25
ubuntu_tehpwn : Try iwconfig -l10:25
tehpwnEh, I'm so lost in the world of linux :(10:26
tehpwnlol10:26
esctehpwn : try lshw10:26
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esctehpwn : then look for the Network section10:27
escsee what it says10:27
tehpwnok, looking10:27
hattadon't worry tehpwn, keep with it long enough and you'll be lost in the world of windows too10:27
tehpwnPff, I own windows Hehe10:27
boblenyHow can I make sure apache is not on my computer?10:28
ubuntu_tehpwn: if that don't work do..  lspci10:28
bxnpwell, i must confess, the wifi thing with linux can be a pain in the a s s10:28
escbobleny : try locate apache10:28
bxnpbut if you know, the basic steps you can configure every card, ones you know what chipset you have :)10:28
esctehpwn : see Network yet?10:28
tehpwnNo luck yet10:29
bxnpdo lspci10:29
boblenyOk, how do I weed out apache2?10:29
tehpwnOh ok, I found the wireless card10:29
boblenyfrom the results that is10:29
tehpwnSo I'm looking for the chipset?10:29
nate_my system hangs at boot for around 10seconds and this is on the screen10:30
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nate_00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (r10:30
nate_ev 02)10:30
nate_theres about 7 of them tho10:30
esctehpwn : it should say what driver you use10:30
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tehpwnnope, nothing that says driver...10:31
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bxnpwhat does it say anyway10:31
boblenylocate apache also findes all the apache2 files, and I don't want to find those. How can I make it leave out apache2?10:31
esccan you copy/paste what it says?10:31
bxnplol esc10:31
tehpwnHehe, you want me to copy all of it?10:32
escno10:32
escjust the network section10:32
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escplease dont copy/paste the entire output10:32
tehpwnDriver= e100!! Is that it!?!?10:33
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carlocome posso avere un dvd della distro Kubuntu 6.10?10:33
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mebsdwhat's password for root?10:34
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ubuntubonjour :)10:34
bxnpdo a lshw tehpwn and paste what the network section says a10:34
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tehpwnI also see, driver=bcm43xx10:34
esctehpwn : can you paste the network section? that'll help10:34
tehpwnYeah, gimme a sec sry10:34
ubuntupas de francais10:34
ubuntu??10:34
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tehpwnIt's really big do you just want me to post it here?10:35
escjust the network section10:36
wolfwalkerOkay, so I downloaded these usb drivers. Came as a .tar file, so I uncompressed them. It had two readme files, which was supposed to tell me how to install it.10:36
bxnpthat is something about 9 lines10:36
tehpwn           *-network:0 DISABLED10:36
tehpwn                description: Wireless interface10:36
tehpwn                product: BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller10:36
tehpwn                vendor: Broadcom Corporation10:36
tehpwn                physical id: 110:36
tehpwn                bus info: pci@01:01.010:36
bxnpuse pastebin10:36
tehpwn                logical name: eth010:36
wolfwalkerBut I'm a Linux newbie10:36
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Schuenemann!rar10:36
ubotworar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free10:36
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wolfwalkerSo I couldn't figure out how to use the read files to know how to install it10:36
esctehpwn : you'll use the broadcom 43xx drivers10:36
boblenydoes "apache2" need any "apache" files?10:36
eschttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx10:36
escsee that10:36
Schuenemann!info unrar-free10:36
ubotwounrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information10:37
bxnpmodprobe bcm43xx10:37
bxnpuse sudo10:37
esctehpwn : are you using dapper or edgy?10:37
bxnpdapper10:37
tehpwnIDK10:37
bxnphe is using dapper10:37
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tehpwnOk, I did that command10:37
bxnpnow do10:38
bxnpiwconfig -l10:38
bxnpwhat do you get10:38
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tehpwn-l no such device10:38
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bxnpsorry no -l10:38
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carlohelp for me i'm italy10:38
bxnpjust iwconfig10:38
esctehpwn : what is the output of modinfo bcm43xx10:38
tehpwnOk, what is this pastebin you speak of?10:39
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tehpwnso I don't keep spamming10:39
mebsdhey in live kubuntu, how do i log into root shell?10:39
bxnpjust use sudo -s mebsd10:39
tehpwnlo        no wireless extensions.10:40
tehpwneth1      no wireless extensions.10:40
tehpwneth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"pwnage"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"10:40
tehpwn          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s10:40
mebsdthx10:40
tehpwn          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off10:40
tehpwn          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:010:40
tehpwn          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:010:40
tehpwn          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:010:40
tehpwnsit0      no wireless extensions.10:40
bxnpits working10:40
bxnpyour wifi interface is named eth010:40
tehpwnYeah, it's been like that for a while.10:40
bxnpoh10:40
tehpwnIDK, your the pro :-p10:41
bxnpstart wlassistant10:41
tehpwnok10:41
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bxnpwith sudo10:41
tehpwno, well it asked for root pass... so w/e10:41
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bxnpoke give the root10:42
tehpwnBut it's open and nothing is listed there...10:42
mefisto__wolfwalker: what's your problem? you can't read the readme files?10:42
bxnpdo scan10:42
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tehpwnI pushed refresh? and says No Networks Found10:42
tehpwn(I'm sitting right next to the router btw)10:42
bxnpdo iwlist eth0 scan10:43
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wolfwalkerYeah mefisto, essentially10:43
wolfwalkerI don't know enough about Linux to be able to use what I read10:43
wolfwalkerAt least......... I think10:43
dromeranybody with thunderbird experience? > Eversince I moved my /home to a new partition (using this guide: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ (some addaptations)), Thunderbird closes for no particular reason when I read an email/rss-feed, after about 5 seconds of viewing the message Tb just disapears, when run from console Tb gives this error: $ mozilla-thunderbird10:43
dromerDOUBLE-CLICK: 250 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 12840 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}10:43
tehpwneth0 No scan results10:43
escmaybe tehpwn needs ndiswrapper...10:44
tehpwnI have it ;)10:44
eschttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=bcm430610:44
escdid you see that thread?10:44
bxnpyou have it10:44
bxnpwhat do you man10:44
bxnpmean10:44
mefisto__wolfwalker: I'm confused. Have you read the readme file and not understood it? Or are you having trouble opening the readme file?10:44
bxnpdoes wlassistant give your something or iwlist10:44
tehpwnnegative10:44
wolfwalkerI don't understand it10:44
wolfwalkerAlthough I can read it just fine10:44
wolfwalkerHas a Kbuild file and a Kconfig file10:45
wolfwalkerI comprehend the config file10:45
bxnpesc, i do understand why people use windows, :) cause this should not be the case getting a wifi card working10:45
wolfwalkerHaven't a clue how to translate the build10:45
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bxnpesc, do you have the same card as tehpwn10:46
escbxnp : same card, different chipset (I use rt2500 which works out of the box)10:46
bxnpthere is allso something like the rt50010:46
bxnpi believe10:46
tehpwnYeah, imo this is kindof rediculous (sp?) but I have time :-p10:46
escmaybe he needs to follow that how-to...on using bcm4306 with ndiswrapper10:47
Xera|ffs, how do i un-hide the menu in konversation?10:48
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tehpwnesc, Me?10:48
bobleny!adept10:48
ubotwoadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto10:48
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esctehpwn : yes10:48
escXera : control-m10:48
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tehpwnIDK what I should do... Quite possibly the reason why I am here :-p10:49
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escdid you read the how-to?10:49
tehpwnI have read what ever bxnp has told me to read thus far...10:49
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tehpwnI don't recall reading about ndiswrapper though...10:50
bxnplol, i did not point you to any documentation10:50
bxnponly for your source list10:50
bxnpto update it10:50
tehpwnWell, I was refering to the respatories list... that is documentation :-p10:50
bxnp:)10:50
bxnpyes it is10:50
tehpwnHehe, yeah10:51
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wolfwalker..........10:51
tehpwnSo why isn't this working? Is it jut me? Does the midget penguin have a deep hate for me that I am not aware of?10:52
mefisto__wolfwalker: what did you download? where is this readme file? you need to be more specific10:52
wolfwalker#10:53
wolfwalker# Makefile for USB ATM/xDSL drivers10:53
wolfwalker#10:53
wolfwalkerobj-$(CONFIG_USB_ATM)+= usbatm.o10:53
wolfwalker#obj-$(CONFIG_USB_SPEEDTOUCH)+= speedtch.o10:53
wolfwalkerobj-$(CONFIG_USB_CXACRU)+= cxacru.o10:53
bxnpread the link esc gave you10:54
bxnpyou already installed the ndiswrapper10:54
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esctehpwn : maybe you should post a threat at kubuntuforums. doing this over irc is hard http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=58.010:55
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korielany software to create animated gifs10:55
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tehpwnesc, how would forums make this easier?10:55
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robin2803/bye10:56
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wolfwalker|koriel:| try this site http://packages.ubuntu.com/10:56
wolfwalkerLots and lotsa great stuff10:56
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bxnpwell first he have to get the right windows driver10:57
mefisto__koriel: gimp can make animated gifs10:57
bxnpand then use the tutorial10:57
korielmefisto__: are you sure?ok I'll check it out10:57
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DjDarkmanhy ,can someone help me set up 3 ethernet cards? :)10:58
tehpwnWell, even on windows it took me quite some time to install them correctly.. I ended up having to run them in Win 2000 mode for it to install correctly...10:58
tehpwnAnd then on XP start up it takes at least 2 minutes for it to even connect...10:58
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mefisto__koriel: google "animated gifs gimp"10:59
snowrichardhello10:59
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DjDarkmanI get my internet connection on eth0 from 192.168.0.1 ,I want to share that on eth1 or eth1 for my laptop10:59
boblenyIs adept manager good for removing programes?11:00
dawsonhello all, interesting problem. I have been playing with vista and managed to screw up my grub. It was gone and replaced with the windows ntldr, I have removed that, and attempted to get grub bak, failed on many attemps many drifferent things. Decided that the ubuntu installer was the easist method to get it back, Created a new partition to temp install another ubuntu kernal and the plan was that it would reinstate grub and i11:00
dawsoncould then just delete the partition and edit the menu.lst. I now have grub loading from the new install, how do i make grub boot from the old install and not this current one.11:00
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dawsonplease!!11:01
mefisto__wolfwalker: are you sure you're reading the right file? where did you download from? Maybe someone could take a look for you?11:01
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wolfwalkerI downloaded it from a site DaSkreech (a guy in here last night) sent me to11:01
tehpwnSo bxnp, does this me you have given up? :(11:02
tehpwnmean*11:02
bxnpno not realy, give me a ssh account and i will install those drivers for you in 10 min :)11:03
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bxnpno11:03
bxnpehm you need to get the right windows driver11:03
mefisto__wolfwalker: I can't imagine how anyone could help you. you're not really asking any questions11:03
tehpwnUm, tell me how to give you that account and im more than willing11:03
wolfwalkerWhat do I do with what I have?11:03
mefisto__wolfwalker: what do you have?11:03
bxnphttp://www.silfreed.net/download/hpzt3000cto/SP23107A.tar.gz11:04
wolfwalkerI have a set of files I downloaded as a .tar, I was told I would get a read file that told me how to put it together, what I pasted is what the build file said11:04
wolfwalker#11:04
wolfwalker# Makefile for USB ATM/xDSL drivers11:04
wolfwalker#11:04
wolfwalkerobj-$(CONFIG_USB_ATM)+= usbatm.o11:04
wolfwalker#obj-$(CONFIG_USB_SPEEDTOUCH)+= speedtch.o11:04
wolfwalkerobj-$(CONFIG_USB_CXACRU)+= cxacru.o11:04
bxnpi think this are he right drivers tehpwn11:04
tehpwnkk11:04
wolfwalkerIs the obj-$(CONFIG_USB_ATM) a command?11:04
mefisto__wolfwalker: that doesn't look like a readme file11:04
wolfwalkerWell that's what it was labeled11:05
mefisto__where did you get it?11:06
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bxnpbtw do rmmod bcm43xx tehpwn11:06
bxnplet me get me some beer11:06
tehpwnLol, k11:06
gnomefreakwolfwalker: can you paste the full file to pastebin please11:06
wolfwalkerI have five files in this driver package: cxacru.c, Kbuild, Kconfig, usbatm.c and usbatm.h11:06
dawsonanyone got any ideas about how to get grub to rewrite the mbr??11:06
bxnpand afther you removed the driver do a iwconfig11:06
wolfwalkerThat's all of the Kbuild file there is11:06
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bxnprmmod with sudo11:07
bxnpso sudo rmmod bcm43xx11:07
bxnpthen give me the output off iwconfig11:07
tehpwnyeah, got that11:07
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tehpwneverything says no wireless extensions11:08
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tehpwnand bxnp, I cd'd to the dir. w/ the new drivers already11:08
bxnpoke good11:08
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wolfwalkerIf you'll give me a throwaway email address, I'll send you the whole thing for you to see for yourself11:09
wolfwalkerIt's supposed to be USB drivers for a DSL modem11:09
mefisto__wolfwalker: just tell us where you downloaded it11:09
wolfwalkerHaven't the slightest idea11:09
bxnpnow rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper/*.*11:09
mefisto__???11:09
bxnpwith sudo11:09
tehpwnkk11:10
RawSewagehow do you make a txt list of all files in a folder again, from the konsole11:10
tehpwnDone11:10
wolfwalkerI can tell you what the file name I downloade is though11:10
wolfwalkerusbatm-20050216.tar.bz211:10
bxnpkee now go back to the drivers you got from me11:10
jugheadmy laptop booted up and something popped up saying sda3 has been mounted 30 times and started scanning it with fsck... it failed and rebooted.  It starts up ok, but I would like to check it again now that I'm logged in.  how can I do that?11:10
tehpwnRawSewage, type ;s i believe11:10
tehpwnls*11:10
RawSewagety11:10
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mefisto__wolfwalker: paste the readme at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then give us the url of what you pasted11:11
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RawSewagetehpwn, I know how to list a folder11:12
RawSewagebut how to export the list to a file11:12
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tehpwnUmm, use your mouse to copy and paste it?11:12
RawSewageI could, but that's a bad way to do it11:13
tehpwnOh, I don't know any other way, sorry man11:13
RawSewageok11:13
bxnptehpwn, are you already back in that dir with the drivers i gave you11:14
tehpwnyes bxnp11:14
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bxnpoke now do again ndiswapper -i nameoftheinf file11:15
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RawSewageAnyone know how to print out a listing of files from Konsole to a text file?11:15
wolfwalkerOkay, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2182/11:16
tehpwnbxnp, I recieved no erros this time!11:16
bxnpgood11:16
wolfwalkerI pasted the contents of all five files, labeled by file name11:16
bxnpnow do ndiswrapper -l11:16
bxnppaste the output11:16
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tehpwnSays: "Driver present, Hardware Present" Woot!11:16
bxnpoke11:17
bxnpwait wait thats good11:17
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bxnpnow do modprobe ndiswrapper11:17
bxnpsame again with sudo11:18
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tehpwnkk11:18
bxnpnow gave me the output of iwconfig11:18
dawsonrawSewage: Hi11:18
bxnpand do it on www.pastbin.com11:19
bxnpand then give me the url11:19
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ValliantCould someone please help me try and figure out why grub keeps giving me errors when I try to boot up.. And why when I boot from my sata drive it boots straight into windows -without- showing grub?11:19
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mefisto__wolfwalker: I downloaded the driver, but there is no readme file in it11:20
wolfwalkerWhat was Kbuild then?11:21
wolfwalkerIt said read11:21
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tehpwnbxnp, pastebin is going real slow...11:21
wolfwalkerMaybe it was for the computer's builder to read11:21
bxnpoke nevermind11:21
tehpwnbxnp, http://pastebin.com/86318211:21
mefisto__wolfwalker: so it's no wonder you don't understand it11:21
wolfwalker|mefisto__:| Oh well. So what do I do with it now?11:21
mefisto__yes, its code11:21
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tehpwnbxnp, I believe its working...11:22
bxnpdid you start wlassistant11:22
tehpwnyeah11:23
bxnpand you see your accespoint11:23
tehpwnand i got all of my ssid and wep stuff typed in11:23
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bxnpand and and :)11:23
tehpwnand im happy and your the greatest11:23
mefisto__ah, I have little idea myself! the best I could do is guess.11:23
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bxnpbut we are not finisched11:23
tehpwnnowai!?!?11:24
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tehpwnOk, well like I said, I have time :-D11:24
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mefisto__the website is at http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/driver.shtml Maybe someone else more experienced could help you?11:24
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bxnpoke now do ndiswrapper -m11:24
yappo_hey, could someone please tell me how to install limewire on ubuntu11:24
tehpwnbxnp, okay11:25
yappo_I downloaded the file from the website but I can't open it, it is a ".rpm" file11:25
bxnpnow we have to arrange that the other driver is not loaded at boot time11:25
bxnpso do this11:25
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bxnpjust download and run it yappo_11:26
bxnpjust download the java from the original website yappo_11:26
tehpwnbxnp, so do this = ?11:26
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bxnpone sec, my girlfriend needs some help11:27
tehpwnoic11:27
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wolfwalkerWow, my head11:27
wolfwalkeris spinning now11:27
yappo_what java from the website, I am trying to get limewire11:28
yappo_?11:28
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wolfwalkerBasically it says you need a lot more than you can get from that site to get it running11:28
Valliant....aight, What if.. I allocate some space on my sata drive for Kubuntu say 100 gig's.. and installed kubuntu to it? Would that work? Since it seems to not try to read my SATA during boot up in grub?11:28
bxnpnow do this: sudo kwrite /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist11:28
tehpwnmkay11:29
bxnpand add somewhere in the file: blacklist bcm43xx11:29
bxnpthis line prevents the other driver from being loaded at boottime11:29
tehpwnOk, ic11:30
bxnpcause when the other driver is loaded it does not work11:30
bxnpanyway now save the file11:30
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tehpwnSo should I reboot, unplug the cat5 and test it out, or just wait?11:30
bxnpthe cat now its for your wifi card11:30
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bxnpno its for yuour wifi card11:31
wolfwalker|mefisto__:| If I read that right, that site you posted a link to says that I basically need more than what that site has to get the modem USB drivers up and running11:31
wolfwalkerRight?11:31
tehpwnNo I know that that sentence made no sense... I was asking if I should test the wireless.... Not the cat5 cable11:31
bxnptry it11:32
mefisto__I'm not sure. I think it's just saying you need your usb hardware, etc set up correctly. Which you probably have already.11:32
tehpwnOk, be back soon hopefully11:32
bxnpuse wlassstaint11:32
bxnpwlassistant11:33
bxnpdid you done everything i said11:33
tehpwnOh, ok11:33
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mefisto__can someone take a look at http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/driver.shtml and maybe help wolfwalker?11:33
bxnpdid the connection worked with wlassistant11:33
tehpwnidk, lemme check11:33
tehpwnit says its on11:33
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tehpwnbut im still connected to lan11:33
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bxnpyappo_,  go to the original website where you get download limewire11:34
bxnpwww.limewire.com ????11:34
bxnpthere is a linux version11:34
yappo_I downloaded that11:34
bxnpun tar it11:34
bxnpgo to the dir11:34
bxnpand run in the console ./limewire11:35
Valliantbxnp: I believe he got the rpm file.11:35
bxnpoh11:35
yappo_the problem is that when I downloaded it it won't open because it is a ".rpm" file\11:35
yappo_and I can't open that11:35
bxnpdont download the rpm one, get the other one11:35
wolfwalkerFound something11:35
wolfwalkerIs this a command I run at the prompt? cvs -z9 -q -d :pserver:anoncvs:anoncvs@cvs.infradead.org:/home/cvs co usbatm11:35
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wolfwalkerAnd if so, will it do anything or just try to get something off the internet?11:36
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tehpwnOk, I'm on wireless atm11:36
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tehpwnWoo Hoo!11:36
jdfellowok is anyone able to figure this out  come on someone here loves a challenge ...11:37
bxnp http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther download this one yappo_11:37
mefisto__wolfwalker: I think that's just the development version of what you already have11:37
bxnpcool tehpwn, so what have we learned, tehpwn11:37
wolfwalker:/11:37
bxnpbtw maybe its better to use wpa11:37
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tehpwnWe have learned absolutley nothing!11:37
bxnpits more save, because if i am at your house i could crack your encryption in no time11:37
tehpwnHehe, jk jk11:37
bxnplol11:37
jdfellowsound works really well running winamp thru wine but all other sound apps in linux play with a stutter11:38
tehpwnUmm, when In doubt, go to this irc channel lol11:38
tehpwnBut srsly, thank you so much11:38
bxnpwell first we learned how to change the repos' cause the repos return the availible apps you can install using adept or apt-get11:38
tehpwnYeah, and I kinda learned a little more about the konsole11:38
wolfwalkerWell this configuring kernel build is Greek to me11:39
tehpwnwhat I can do with it... which seems like there isn't anything I can't do11:39
bxnpsecond, we learned that you always have to download the right driver11:39
bxnpin order to do that brand names are not important, what counts is the chipset of your hardware11:39
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bxnpalways check the chipset of your hardware11:39
wolfwalkerIt doesn't have any commands, only the explanation of what commands to get from other (unspecified) parts11:39
tehpwnHehe11:39
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wolfwalkerOh cute11:40
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mefisto__wolfwalker: it's usually a little easier. there's usually a file with step-by-step instructions11:40
wolfwalker>.>11:40
wolf_^^11:40
wolfwalkerWell I tried ethernet from computer to modem, but it couldn't find the modem11:40
bxnpbtw one more tip, read more howto they are good and it will help you with your linux skills, but i must be honest, its too hard to install wifi in linux11:41
mefisto__wolfwalker: or at least that's my (limited) experience11:41
bxnpthey must make it easier11:41
wolfwalkerI ran sudo pppoeconfig and it sayd nothing was there11:41
wolf_... easier said than done..... if the manufacturere would give the spec. how to interface the cards it would be much much easier11:42
wolfwalkerwolf, that would make SENSE11:42
wolfwalkerCan't have that11:42
ValliantWould someone like to give a crack out of helping me now? With my grub problems?11:42
wolfwalkerIn the words of my internet provider, Linux is just not popular enough for them to provide support for it11:42
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Theorybut if no one uses it there is no expense to providing support for it is there? ;-)11:43
tehpwnWhat's cute?11:43
mefisto__wolfwalker: and I wonder if that has anything to do with its lack of popularity11:43
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tehpwnWhoo, I love you bxnp... lol11:44
wolfwalkerWell the problem, as that tech support guy put it, is that employee turnover is so high there that they barely can keep their tech support people versed in Windows and Mac11:44
wolf_ISP's have no problem with linux users... we use a simple protocol that is normalized.... but the manufacturer can create theyr interface in the computer like they wish to do.... sorry im angry against intel in this case but inter is more powerfull than my emails :-)11:44
tehpwnI restarted to make sure it work's and look at me go!11:44
yappo_I have downloaded the file and extracted everything in it into a foler11:44
yappo_How do I install it11:44
yappo_?11:44
wolfwalkerOkay, I'll try the ethernet thing again11:45
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bxnpyou dont have to install it yappo_11:45
Valliantyappo_ Try make11:45
bxnpjust run ./limewire11:45
Valliantyappo_ Wait.. lol don't know what version you have.11:45
wolfwalkerAs I get it, you turn everything off, connect all the wires, turn the modem on, wait until the DSL sync light is on, turn the computer on11:45
wolfwalkerThen run pppoeconf and pray11:45
yappo_version of11:45
wolfwalkerRight?11:45
yappo_?11:46
h3sp4wnor use a router (ar7 is nice with openwrt - and also cheap)11:46
Valliantyappo_ I believe bxnp just told you how to run it type : ./limewire11:46
yappo_yup, but i havn'tdone that because he told me to wait11:46
wolfwalkerRight?11:46
yappo_bxnp_what version do you need to know11:47
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DeadFishManyappo_: If you are looking for a good Gnutella client, take a look into Apollon. It is in the repositories, so you don't have to fiddle with commands and such (although that's always a good idea, to improve your skills)11:48
bxnpyou have downloaded the other version like i said right yappo_11:49
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yappo_bnxp_yeah11:49
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yappo_deadfishman_How can I get gnutella11:50
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wolfwalkerAs I get it, you turn everything off, connect all the wires, turn the modem on, wait until the DSL sync light is on, turn the computer on11:50
wolfwalkerThen run pppoeconf and pray11:50
tehpwn_I keep DC'ing11:50
wolfwalkerRight?11:50
tehpwn_hummm11:50
DeadFishManyappo_: You don't get gnutella per se, you just need to install a Gnutella client and then you e good to go.11:50
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yappo_deadfishman_can you tell me how to get it done?11:51
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bxnpnow yappo_  untar that file go to the dir11:51
bxnpand run ./configure11:51
DeadFishManGnutella is a huge P2P network and Limewire is just one of several clients that you can use11:51
bxnpsorry11:51
ValliantSweet, I believe I have just figured out why grub wasn't working on Kubuntu.11:51
bxnpdo ./limewire11:51
bxnpor something similer11:51
tehpwn_So how is the compadibility with iTunes and kubuntu?11:51
yappo_bxnp_I am going to try it now11:51
ValliantIt works when I install it to the master drive but not when I install it to a slave drive.11:52
h3sp4wndoes limewire not presumb /bin/sh is bash ?11:52
CSonicGoheh, I'm officially a linux geek  as of today11:52
CSonicGoI got my first program to compile11:52
wolfwalkerIf you actually want to run iJunk, it does work in Linux Kubuntu11:52
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wolfwalkerOr so I hear11:52
DeadFishManyappo_: In order to install Apollon, open the konsole and type sudo apt-get install apollon and enter your password when asked11:52
tehpwn_wolfwalker, I only want to run craptunes because my cousin uses my pc also, and now with the wireless working, he's not going to get the option of having the dual boot11:53
DeadFishManyappo_: (You may need to enable universe and/or multiverse repositories though, but that's simple and it is nicely outlined on http://www.ubuntuguide.org)11:53
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yappo_deadfishman_I have them enabled and the command you told me is running11:54
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VR_is there any way to disable those tabs on the sidebar in konqueror?11:54
VR_the "file browser" konq11:55
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TheoryF911:55
bxnpyappo_, you already have the program on your pc you only have to run the binary11:55
Theoryof View->Hide navigation panel11:55
yappo_bxnp_okay11:55
VR_Theory: f9 hides the whole thing11:55
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VR_im asking if only the tabs can be hidden11:56
Theoryoh, you mean you want the dir list, but not the tabs?11:56
yappo_deadfishman_the script has finished downloading and installing appolllon, how do I run it11:56
yappo_?11:56
VR_Theory: exactly11:56
DeadFishManyappo_: Look for it on the K Menu > Internet. There will be an icon for it there.11:56
Theorynot afaik11:56
tehpwn_bxnp, I'm going to leave for a bit, put my pc back upstairs. THANK YOU again, your assistance is much appretiated11:57
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VR_well damn11:57
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DeadFishManyappo_: Once you load it for the first time, it is going to ask you for folders to save downloaded stuff, which networks you want to enable (don't worry about this, just accept the defaults and you should be fine), etc...11:57
yappo_deadfishman_I am using ubuntu and it is not showing under internet11:58
DeadFishManyappo_: In this case, try to press Alt + F2 (or whatever opens Ubuntu's Run dialog), type apollon and hit Enter11:58
wolfwalkerubuntuguide.org seems to be down right now11:58
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jdfellowi have absolutely no idea why my sound is acting up can u help11:59
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charlie5hi ... how are usb drives handles by kubuntu ? there doesn't seem to be any entrys in /etc/fstab for it, yet i get a desktop icon ?12:00
charlie5<usb hardrives>12:01
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yappo_deadfishman_I typed apollon in the terminal and it ran I accepted the defaults settings but its stil trying to connect to the apollon server12:02
wolfwalkerWell, the ubuntuguide site seems to be donw12:02
wolfwalkerdown even12:02
yappo_deadfishman_it seams to be taking a while12:02
DeadFishMancharlie5: K/Ubuntu uses HAL/Dbus to automatically generate device nodes under /dev whenever it sees a USB mass storage device being plugged, mounts it under /media and then opens a desktop window automatially (Konqueror on Kubuntu and Nautilus on Ubuntu)12:02
wolfwalkerFor reference, can someone verify that I have this correct?12:02
wolfwalkerAs I get it, you turn everything off, connect all the wires, turn the modem on, wait until the DSL sync light is on, turn the computer on12:02
wolfwalkerThen run pppoeconf and pray12:02
DeadFishManyappo_: That could be because of gift. Apollon is just a front-end for an application called gift which is the one that really does the heavy lifting12:03
yappo_deadfishman_its been saying connecting for a while12:04
DeadFishManyappo_: giFT needs to look for the folders that you defined as shared and generate a MD5 hash for each file available there, so the first run indeed takes a while12:04
frootstripehi - i entered an about:config entry incorrectly (actually, i did it twice) I need to delete one entry, and modify another from being a string to being an integer12:04
wolfwalkerCould somebody......... anybody............ answer right quickly? I have to get off for a while now.12:04
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DeadFishManyappo_: If it still says that it is connecting, that is because it is looking for another Gnutella and OpenFT nodes on the internet12:04
yappo_deadfishman_I will keep waiting hopefully it finish's soon12:05
DeadFishManyappo_: Yep. Give it some time :)12:05
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ubuntuUm, guys? Is a Sempron processor 64-bit? My last processor was but I'm not sure about this one. However I did manage to boot the 64-bit live cd on it. Is it wise to install Kubuntu64?12:06
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ubuntuOr rather, the processor that burned up was an AMD64. I bought this Sempron as a replacement.12:06
charlie5DeadFishMan: thanks ... i'm trying to use the usb drive with evms ... and have trouble setting it up with the usb drive12:06
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DeadFishManubuntu: There seems to be both 32 and 64-bit versions of the Sempron family of processors: This website tells in details how to identify them: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/20112:08
ubuntuIs it possible to see from /proc/cpuinfo?12:08
LjLubuntu, my sempron isn't 64 bit, it has the 64 bit part disabled12:08
LjLwell, *wasn't*12:08
DeadFishMancharlie5: So that means the USB drive is always plugged?12:09
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ubuntuDeadFishMan: Is there a way to find out from Linux that doesn't include taking the machine apart?12:09
yappo_deadfishman_its still saying connection is being established12:10
DeadFishManubuntu: I tried to look into cat /proc/cpuinfo but I didn't see anything there that shows such information12:10
ubuntuDeadFishMan: I mean that it seems that it's either something written on the processor itself or a windows-app.12:10
ubuntuI got two numbers that atleast say 64. It's clflush size and cache_alignment.12:10
charlie5DeadFishMan: yes, its more or less dedicated ... i have set up a raid1 array using a partition on the internal drive and a partition of the usb drive ... it synced ok, but on a reboot, the raid1 array becomes degraded, since it cannot seem to find the usb partition12:10
DeadFishManyappo_: Do you have any firewall running right now? That could be a reason for it to take so long... Its ports could be being blocked by the firewall12:11
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yappo_deadfishman_I don't have any firewall running at all12:11
yappo_deadfishman_maybe I should try and run the script you tole me before again12:12
yappo_?12:12
DeadFishMancharlie5: Well... I'd try to see if the OS recognizes the drive at all using lsusb. Then I'd try to check its device node (usually /dev/sda or /dev/sdb) and then update /etc/fstab to reflect that.12:12
ubuntuDeadFishMan, LjL: It should probably say x86_64 in the "flags" section in /proc/cpuinfo I guess?12:13
DeadFishManyappo_: No need to do that. That command was intended to get it installed on your PC. You wont need anymore unless you want to update that specific app.12:13
LjLubuntu: i guess something on that line...12:13
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DeadFishManubuntu: That's true. I am way too poor to own such machine... :)12:14

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