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qopihey jrib, you still about?12:10
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mefistofeleslol Im late for the ubuntu open week06:03
mefistofeleshehe06:03
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TenrisJi03:34
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jribbiscuit: ok hi04:23
biscuithi^^04:23
jribI'm going to ask you a bunch of questions because I read the scrollback and am kind of confused04:23
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biscuitok just start04:23
livingdaylightok, here's where we actually learn something04:24
jribbiscuit: What is the username of the first user you created in ubuntu?04:24
livingdaylight^^04:24
jriblivingdaylight: sometimes :)04:24
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biscuitthe user is called ragtime which I first created04:24
livingdaylightjrib, you are the master teacher04:24
jribbiscuit: ok, which user is not working at the moment?04:24
biscuitragtime is not working04:24
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jribbiscuit: what user are you logged in as at the moment?04:25
biscuitI created this one in recovery mode..its called mu man04:25
biscuitbut its not an admin user04:25
jribok, have you set a root password?04:26
biscuityes I have04:26
biscuitbut there is the other problem04:26
jribok, explain04:26
biscuitIt seems like it doesnt work anymore04:26
biscuitbut its still the old one I set04:26
biscuitthats strange04:26
jribok, so you can't su to root, right?04:27
biscuitexactly jrib04:27
jribbiscuit: but can you still reboot and get into recovery mode?04:27
livingdaylightjrib, i thought only admin can create second user?04:27
biscuityeah thats possible04:27
jriblivingdaylight: he used recovery mode, logs you in as root04:27
livingdaylightjrib, ah...of course04:28
jribbiscuit: ok, well to make things easier, we can give my man sudo privileges by just adding him to the "admin" group04:28
biscuitand how I do this jrib?04:28
jribbiscuit: so, go into recovery mode and issue this command:   adduser muman admin04:28
jribwhere "muman" is the name of the user04:28
biscuitok, thanks a lot :D04:29
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livingdaylightYet another masterclass04:29
jribbiscuit: if you still can't sort out the issues with ragtime, just come back04:29
biscuitok,04:29
mnoirjrib: it this a standard use of ...-classroom?04:29
LjLmnoir: quite standard, yes04:30
LjLwhen they're no lesson in progress, of course04:30
mnoirLjL: so better than using pm?04:30
biscuithm..I got some question..is this an classroom where you can learn something about ubuntu?04:30
livingdaylightmnoir, yes, because we got to witness a master class04:30
LjLmnoir: yes, other people who're interested can benefit04:30
jribbiscuit: we have classes sometimes, see the /topic04:30
mnoirbiscuit: there is a regular schedule of lectures04:30
biscuitcool :)04:31
mnoirLjL: is it proper to request silence except for the person i bring here to teach?04:31
livingdaylightLOL04:31
biscuitHave  some one in here experiences with maemo too?04:31
livingdaylightmnoir, you can try04:32
livingdaylightSilence in the classroom Please!!!04:32
LjLmnoir: hmm, no, i don't think so, unless you're the instructor for a class04:32
LjLbut you can't just self-appoint you by joining and saying so, i believe - see the topic04:32
livingdaylightlol04:32
mnoirLjL: ok so i still will use pms when something is complex and the interruptions are getting in the way :)04:33
jribmnoir: it's usually not crowded here04:33
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mnoirjrib: i may not be being clear - often i need a less distracting forum for something tricky or somebody who is very unsure.04:34
mnoirheretofore i have used pm for this04:34
mnoirbut would be willing to use the classroom if it is proper to reduce distractions04:35
mnoirthe ubuntu world is very concerned with correctness and i wouldn't want to offend :)04:35
LjLmnoir: it's quite proper04:35
livingdaylightyes, quite04:36
mnoirLjL: k :)04:36
biscuitthank you for everything guys, I am going now in recovery mode *hehe*  :)04:36
mnoirbiscuit: bon voyage :)04:36
livingdaylightshame no schedules set for January yet04:36
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jriblivingdaylight: we need ideas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/Ideas04:37
jriboh too late04:37
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LjLwe need instructors04:37
jribthat too04:38
LjLand the wiki's down04:38
LjLwell no it isn't, it was just a short glitch04:38
mnoirLjL: how to volunteer?04:39
LjLi'm not entirely sure, i guess just poking somebody involved with the project could get you far enough04:41
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mnoirthe Classroom/Ideas web page looks kinda dead to me - the classes should be based on some statistical analysis of the irc traffic i should think.  I have managed educational projects - inventing demand is usually a dead end04:42
LjLwell still keep in mind this is on a voluntary basis, so i guess having classes that interest the *instructors* is important too04:43
mnoirLjL: agreed.  i imagine that a list of needed classes would be a good start.  I know i would be able to teach a high percentage of them but IMO the list is needed first :)04:45
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mnoirbtw commandline/unix grammar and syntax looks to me like a viable topic (with a less academic name :) ).  elementary regex, auto complete, parameter spex, etc and the like04:47
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jribmnoir: regex does sound like a good one, add it to that ideas page04:54
jriband the others too, I just like regex04:54
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LjLwell, myself i wouldn't mind having lessons about .*04:55
mnoiri am trying but the login is challenging me :)04:55
biscuitjrib, thank you it all worked now fine, everything is now ok again :)04:55
jribbiscuit: great04:55
mnoiri am thinking of the things that would enable a beginner to do a find with an exec :)  though I am pretty good with regex, i am a little rusty :)04:56
biscuithm I also got some other question jrib, but I dont know if its ok when I post it here its over scratchbox04:56
LjLalso to be honest... if you just look at the most asked ubotu factoids, it's going to be mp3, java, etc (well just look at the bot's page, they're listed by popularity)04:56
LjLdon't know about you, but *i* am not going to teach classes about *that* :P04:56
biscuitis it ok when I post it here jrib?04:57
jribbiscuit: it's better if you ask in #ubuntu, more eyes there04:57
biscuitI asked there already but there wasnt some solution at all04:58
jribbiscuit: what is scratchbox?04:58
biscuitits some cross compilation toolkit04:59
biscuitits very handy04:59
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jribmnoir: if you're interested in giving a class, you can add youself to the volunteer list and talk with nixternal in #ubuntu-nun when he is around05:00
biscuitbecause I got some nokia 770 and I wanted to make some packages for it with scratchbox and the fakreroot didnt worked at all, and that I wanted to know why the fakreroot was not working05:00
mnoirjrib: i will go find the vol list ( :) ) - the wiki seems cranky, BTW05:01
jribmnoir: volunteer list on the ideas page is what I meant05:01
mnoiroh - I see - will do if the page ever comes up editable for me :)05:01
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TenrisHi... I tried to install ubuntu, but I got this error => http://www.pastebin.ca/32160905:21
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Rioyo07:59
mnoirok - me too08:00
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mnoirnow - if i am right it is a 2 min fix, if not very easy to put back08:01
Riookay08:01
mnoirall apache serving on ubuntu is done thru virt domains, even the 'regular' one08:01
mnoirso i believe you need to alter the virt def for default08:02
Riodef?08:02
mnoir(definition) pull up /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default08:02
mnoiror just go to the directory in case i have the name a little wrong08:03
mnoirby pull up i mean get in an edit mode08:03
mnoiris the server without X?08:03
Riowhat do you mean, is the server without x? im running cygwin with putty....08:04
Rioonce logged on, i type startx in cygwin08:04
Riookay, i pulled up the file08:04
mnoiryes - i wondered if your server has x as you can tunnel x back to your XP machine if it does08:05
mnoirok - in the file you see 80?08:05
mnoirshould be there 2x08:05
Riohrmmm08:06
mnoir??08:06
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Riono, i dont see it08:06
mnoirpaste the 3 first lines of the file here?08:06
mnoirshould be NameVirtualHost etc08:07
Riobut i see..."allow from 127.0.0.0......." if that means anything08:07
RioNameVirtualHost *08:07
Rio<VirtualHost *>08:07
mnoirno number?08:08
Rio"       ServerAdmin webmaster@localhost"08:08
Riono numbers08:08
mnoirok - i believe that means 'any port'  so i am incorrect about you needing to change it08:08
mnoiri am going to test, and if i come up with anything - i will shout out in the main channel08:09
Riomain channel as in #ubuntu not #ubuntu-classroom08:09
Rioaight08:09
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