[12:10] <qopi> hey jrib, you still about?
[06:03] <mefistofeles> lol Im late for the ubuntu open week
[06:03] <mefistofeles> hehe
[03:34] <Tenris> Ji
[04:23] <jrib> biscuit: ok hi
[04:23] <biscuit> hi^^
[04:23] <jrib> I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions because I read the scrollback and am kind of confused
[04:23] <biscuit> ok just start
[04:24] <livingdaylight> ok, here's where we actually learn something
[04:24] <jrib> biscuit: What is the username of the first user you created in ubuntu?
[04:24] <livingdaylight> ^^
[04:24] <jrib> livingdaylight: sometimes :)
[04:24] <biscuit> the user is called ragtime which I first created
[04:24] <livingdaylight> jrib, you are the master teacher
[04:24] <jrib> biscuit: ok, which user is not working at the moment?
[04:24] <biscuit> ragtime is not working
[04:25] <jrib> biscuit: what user are you logged in as at the moment?
[04:25] <biscuit> I created this one in recovery mode..its called mu man
[04:25] <biscuit> but its not an admin user
[04:26] <jrib> ok, have you set a root password?
[04:26] <biscuit> yes I have
[04:26] <biscuit> but there is the other problem
[04:26] <jrib> ok, explain
[04:26] <biscuit> It seems like it doesnt work anymore
[04:26] <biscuit> but its still the old one I set
[04:26] <biscuit> thats strange
[04:27] <jrib> ok, so you can't su to root, right?
[04:27] <biscuit> exactly jrib
[04:27] <jrib> biscuit: but can you still reboot and get into recovery mode?
[04:27] <livingdaylight> jrib, i thought only admin can create second user?
[04:27] <biscuit> yeah thats possible
[04:27] <jrib> livingdaylight: he used recovery mode, logs you in as root
[04:28] <livingdaylight> jrib, ah...of course
[04:28] <jrib> biscuit: ok, well to make things easier, we can give my man sudo privileges by just adding him to the "admin" group
[04:28] <biscuit> and how I do this jrib?
[04:28] <jrib> biscuit: so, go into recovery mode and issue this command:   adduser muman admin
[04:28] <jrib> where "muman" is the name of the user
[04:29] <biscuit> ok, thanks a lot :D
[04:29] <livingdaylight> Yet another masterclass
[04:29] <jrib> biscuit: if you still can't sort out the issues with ragtime, just come back
[04:29] <biscuit> ok,
[04:29] <mnoir> jrib: it this a standard use of ...-classroom?
[04:30] <LjL> mnoir: quite standard, yes
[04:30] <LjL> when they're no lesson in progress, of course
[04:30] <mnoir> LjL: so better than using pm?
[04:30] <biscuit> hm..I got some question..is this an classroom where you can learn something about ubuntu?
[04:30] <livingdaylight> mnoir, yes, because we got to witness a master class
[04:30] <LjL> mnoir: yes, other people who're interested can benefit
[04:30] <jrib> biscuit: we have classes sometimes, see the /topic
[04:30] <mnoir> biscuit: there is a regular schedule of lectures
[04:31] <biscuit> cool :)
[04:31] <mnoir> LjL: is it proper to request silence except for the person i bring here to teach?
[04:31] <livingdaylight> LOL
[04:31] <biscuit> Have  some one in here experiences with maemo too?
[04:32] <livingdaylight> mnoir, you can try
[04:32] <livingdaylight> Silence in the classroom Please!!!
[04:32] <LjL> mnoir: hmm, no, i don't think so, unless you're the instructor for a class
[04:32] <LjL> but you can't just self-appoint you by joining and saying so, i believe - see the topic
[04:32] <livingdaylight> lol
[04:33] <mnoir> LjL: ok so i still will use pms when something is complex and the interruptions are getting in the way :)
[04:33] <jrib> mnoir: it's usually not crowded here
[04:34] <mnoir> jrib: i may not be being clear - often i need a less distracting forum for something tricky or somebody who is very unsure.
[04:34] <mnoir> heretofore i have used pm for this
[04:35] <mnoir> but would be willing to use the classroom if it is proper to reduce distractions
[04:35] <mnoir> the ubuntu world is very concerned with correctness and i wouldn't want to offend :)
[04:35] <LjL> mnoir: it's quite proper
[04:36] <livingdaylight> yes, quite
[04:36] <mnoir> LjL: k :)
[04:36] <biscuit> thank you for everything guys, I am going now in recovery mode *hehe*  :)
[04:36] <mnoir> biscuit: bon voyage :)
[04:36] <livingdaylight> shame no schedules set for January yet
[04:37] <jrib> livingdaylight: we need ideas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/Ideas
[04:37] <jrib> oh too late
[04:37] <LjL> we need instructors
[04:38] <jrib> that too
[04:38] <LjL> and the wiki's down
[04:38] <LjL> well no it isn't, it was just a short glitch
[04:39] <mnoir> LjL: how to volunteer?
[04:41] <LjL> i'm not entirely sure, i guess just poking somebody involved with the project could get you far enough
[04:42] <mnoir> the Classroom/Ideas web page looks kinda dead to me - the classes should be based on some statistical analysis of the irc traffic i should think.  I have managed educational projects - inventing demand is usually a dead end
[04:43] <LjL> well still keep in mind this is on a voluntary basis, so i guess having classes that interest the *instructors* is important too
[04:45] <mnoir> LjL: agreed.  i imagine that a list of needed classes would be a good start.  I know i would be able to teach a high percentage of them but IMO the list is needed first :)
[04:47] <mnoir> btw commandline/unix grammar and syntax looks to me like a viable topic (with a less academic name :) ).  elementary regex, auto complete, parameter spex, etc and the like
[04:54] <jrib> mnoir: regex does sound like a good one, add it to that ideas page
[04:54] <jrib> and the others too, I just like regex
[04:55] <LjL> well, myself i wouldn't mind having lessons about .*
[04:55] <mnoir> i am trying but the login is challenging me :)
[04:55] <biscuit> jrib, thank you it all worked now fine, everything is now ok again :)
[04:55] <jrib> biscuit: great
[04:56] <mnoir> i am thinking of the things that would enable a beginner to do a find with an exec :)  though I am pretty good with regex, i am a little rusty :)
[04:56] <biscuit> hm I also got some other question jrib, but I dont know if its ok when I post it here its over scratchbox
[04:56] <LjL> also to be honest... if you just look at the most asked ubotu factoids, it's going to be mp3, java, etc (well just look at the bot's page, they're listed by popularity)
[04:56] <LjL> don't know about you, but *i* am not going to teach classes about *that* :P
[04:57] <biscuit> is it ok when I post it here jrib?
[04:57] <jrib> biscuit: it's better if you ask in #ubuntu, more eyes there
[04:58] <biscuit> I asked there already but there wasnt some solution at all
[04:58] <jrib> biscuit: what is scratchbox?
[04:59] <biscuit> its some cross compilation toolkit
[04:59] <biscuit> its very handy
[05:00] <jrib> mnoir: if you're interested in giving a class, you can add youself to the volunteer list and talk with nixternal in #ubuntu-nun when he is around
[05:00] <biscuit> because I got some nokia 770 and I wanted to make some packages for it with scratchbox and the fakreroot didnt worked at all, and that I wanted to know why the fakreroot was not working
[05:01] <mnoir> jrib: i will go find the vol list ( :) ) - the wiki seems cranky, BTW
[05:01] <jrib> mnoir: volunteer list on the ideas page is what I meant
[05:01] <mnoir> oh - I see - will do if the page ever comes up editable for me :)
[05:21] <Tenris> Hi... I tried to install ubuntu, but I got this error => http://www.pastebin.ca/321609
[07:59] <Rio> yo
[08:00] <mnoir> ok - me too
[08:01] <mnoir> now - if i am right it is a 2 min fix, if not very easy to put back
[08:01] <Rio> okay
[08:01] <mnoir> all apache serving on ubuntu is done thru virt domains, even the 'regular' one
[08:02] <mnoir> so i believe you need to alter the virt def for default
[08:02] <Rio> def?
[08:02] <mnoir> (definition) pull up /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[08:03] <mnoir> or just go to the directory in case i have the name a little wrong
[08:03] <mnoir> by pull up i mean get in an edit mode
[08:03] <mnoir> is the server without X?
[08:04] <Rio> what do you mean, is the server without x? im running cygwin with putty....
[08:04] <Rio> once logged on, i type startx in cygwin
[08:04] <Rio> okay, i pulled up the file
[08:05] <mnoir> yes - i wondered if your server has x as you can tunnel x back to your XP machine if it does
[08:05] <mnoir> ok - in the file you see 80?
[08:05] <mnoir> should be there 2x
[08:06] <Rio> hrmmm
[08:06] <mnoir> ??
[08:06] <Rio> no, i dont see it
[08:06] <mnoir> paste the 3 first lines of the file here?
[08:07] <mnoir> should be NameVirtualHost etc
[08:07] <Rio> but i see..."allow from 127.0.0.0......." if that means anything
[08:07] <Rio> NameVirtualHost *
[08:07] <Rio> <VirtualHost *>
[08:08] <mnoir> no number?
[08:08] <Rio> "       ServerAdmin webmaster@localhost"
[08:08] <Rio> no numbers
[08:08] <mnoir> ok - i believe that means 'any port'  so i am incorrect about you needing to change it
[08:09] <mnoir> i am going to test, and if i come up with anything - i will shout out in the main channel
[08:09] <Rio> main channel as in #ubuntu not #ubuntu-classroom
[08:09] <Rio> aight