[12:01] <fokuslee> owh lol Pommie XOXOXO
[12:01] <Gosha> also ... i recently started some kProgram that tested out the network or something
[12:01] <Rosh_Keifer> I've got a buggy external hard drive formatted with NTFS. I can put files on it, and used it for my backups, but now I can't copy files off it too quickly or it'll I/O error. Is there a way to way to slowly and carefully copy instead of pushing the speed of the hard drive?
[12:01] <Pommie> Gosha : Well, that's your problem. You need a server that can resolve DNS addresses. :)
[12:01] <shwag> does the ubuntu installer install drivers specific to the hardware ?  I took a harddrive from one machine to another, and now their is no eth0.
[12:01] <Gosha> ah, kubuntu device database <-- started that and drived it trough
[12:02] <Valde2008> need help
[12:02] <gnuwtey> can someone please help me?
[12:02] <Pommie> Gosha : Are you behind a firewall router, and is the linux ip DHCP assigned?
[12:02] <Gosha> no router
[12:02] <Gosha> linux DHCP ?
[12:02] <Gosha> it has worked fine untill just now
[12:02] <jpatota> how do i get around the following error"
[12:02] <jpatota> chown: changing ownership of `0': Read-only file system
[12:02] <Pommie> Gosha : So you force your ipaddr to be something specific?
[12:02] <gnuwtey> i'm trying to run ubuntu from a DVD+R, but I can't.
[12:02] <erUSUL> shwag: the answer to the question is no, which network card has the new machine?
[12:02] <Gosha> i've usd internet just fine the last month
[12:03] <Gosha> nope
[12:03] <Gosha> i have this modem thingy .. but no firewal on it
[12:03] <farruinn> Is there some sort of interface like phpmysql for postgreSQL?
[12:03] <ubunoob> judicata, its reinstalling right now
[12:03] <Pommie> Gosha : If you haven't changed anything, just try rebooting. Or enter "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[12:04] <shwag> erUSUL: just making sure.  intel ,  e1000
[12:04] <kronus_> Hi, I'm having a problem with my installation of 6.10 server edition
[12:04] <tuskernini> gnuwtey, like live dvd?
[12:04] <Rosh_Keifer> These are very important files backed up from my Windows installation. It's vital that I access them. I need to copy them recursively but as slowly as possible. How can I do this?
[12:04] <Gosha> ... huu
[12:04] <gnuwtey> yes
[12:04] <gnuwtey> like live dvd
[12:04] <gnuwtey> i just can't do it
[12:04] <Gosha> the sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart didn't work .. so i guess i'll restart
[12:04] <kronus_> it starts booting, then about 5 seconds in, screen blanks and the computer reboots
[12:04] <erUSUL> shwag: it should be detected... ifconfig -a does not show up any interface? what shows 'dmesg | grep eth' ??
[12:04] <Gosha> i'll be in trouble if IRC doesn't work then X
[12:04] <Gosha> D
[12:05] <tuskernini> gnuwtey, why dont you use the live cd?
[12:05] <JuJuBee> Why does it take sooooo long to switch locations when using the Networking gui?
[12:05] <gnuwtey> i don't have any cd's
[12:05] <kronus_> is there any way I can get some sort of debugging messages when it's booting?
[12:05] <tuskernini> gnuwtey, and you dont want to download the live dvd?
[12:05] <JuJuBee> My laptop goes between work and home and I need a simple/easy/quick way to change the network information.
[12:05] <age6racer> shades66: its doing the same thing with networkmanager as it did with wifi-radar. Just keeps trying til it times out
[12:05] <shwag> erUSUL: lspci | grep net   also
[12:05] <gnuwtey> there is one?
[12:05] <Duckhunt> @MEG: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=398168
[12:05] <eviljames> If I want to make sure that ubuntu doesn't load i915 and does load i810 for my video driver, what file do I modify?
[12:05] <tuskernini> i will look for it and post... i have ome
[12:05] <gnuwtey> i had no idea...
[12:05] <tuskernini> one
[12:05] <erUSUL> gnuwtey: you can burn a cd iso ina dvd just fine it is a waste of sace but it works
[12:05] <cokeslut> hello
[12:05] <Pommie> Gosha : Just use 140.211.166.3 instead of the named for the IRC server.
[12:05] <nwonknu-> sup
[12:06] <gnuwtey> umm
[12:06] <Judicata> ubunoob: Great, let me know how everything goes.
[12:06] <gnuwtey> i tired that
[12:06] <gnuwtey> *tried
[12:06] <gnuwtey> it didn't work
[12:06] <ctothej> I'd like to configure some hot keys on my keyboard. How can I test them out and make them usable?
[12:06] <gnuwtey> i have windows XP service pack 2
[12:06] <shades66> age6racer: are you using the "create new wireless network" option?
[12:06] <gnuwtey> and when I inserted the CD, it pasued for a while, but then just went right on and booted windows
[12:06] <gnuwtey> DVD
[12:06] <nwonknu-> tell me
[12:06] <gnuwtey> sorry
[12:06] <cokeslut> dunno
[12:06] <tuskernini> gnuwtey,  http://nginyang.uvt.nl/
[12:06] <gnuwtey> ok, thanks
[12:07] <nexact_> hello all, i've installed libcurl, is there a way to know if static or shared library has been installed?
[12:07] <age6racer> no. Just connecting to the network that comes up in the scan
[12:07] <gnuwtey> but, um...
[12:07] <gnuwtey> what am i supposed to do?
[12:07] <gnuwtey> oh
[12:07] <gnuwtey> i see
[12:07] <camerong> can anyone help me figure out what drivers i need for my screen? it goes hideosly slow becuase im using "radeon" rather than "ati" becuase i dont have the ati's but i have internet so i can get em if i can find out which ones i need
[12:07] <shwag> erUSUL: when trying to startup network services it says no buffer space available
[12:07] <Pommie> !ati | camerong
[12:07] <ubotu> camerong: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <gnuwtey> thanks
[12:08] <JuJuBee> Anybody have an idea / suggestion as to simple/easy way to change network settings when switching from work to home and visa versa?
[12:08] <shades66> age6racer :  try the "create new wireless network" option and select the type of wep key you are using
[12:08] <camerong> thanks pommie
[12:08] <age6racer> ok
[12:08] <erUSUL> camerong: ati and radeon are the same driver (ati is dummy driver that loads radeon for nwer cards)
[12:08] <ctothej> is there an application that will help me test keyboard key presses?
[12:08] <kronus_> is there any way I can get 6.10 server edition to show debugging messages at startup? it bails 5 seconds into booting
[12:08] <dxdt> ctothej, there should be some options in the preferences for that.  just under System >> Preferences >> Keyboard shortcuts.  I have stuff like Ctrl+winkey bound to open a console, etc.  Also my media keys are bound to stuff as it autodetects the key press just go into what you want to change and hit that key.  It should detect the funky key code if it is a funky key
[12:09] <Gosha> geez, now the VYM won't save :(
[12:09] <erUSUL> shwag: dunno what can be wrong, sorry. try googling the error
[12:09] <dxdt> oh, you might be talking about something else, I might have misunderstood you
[12:09] <tuskernini> gnuwtey,  i am also downloading the edgy dvd again... will still take another 2h38min
[12:09] <ctothej> dxdt: cool thanks. no that's what I meant... i'm going to try it out now.
[12:10] <Pommie> !xev | ctothej
[12:10] <ubotu> xev: X client - xev. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 68 kB
[12:10] <Valde2008> anyone here know how to type in steam
[12:10] <Valde2008> ???
[12:10] <Gosha> what would i use to see how much space i have left on a harddrive?
[12:11] <ammiel> anyone here know a good deal about bootstrapping?
[12:11] <kronus_> Gosha: run df -h in a terminal
[12:11] <pvz> Gosha: you can use the system monitor if you want to
[12:11] <kronus_> or that
[12:11] <Pommie> ctothej : er, anyways... the 'xev' command in a terminal window will show all X11 events.
[12:11] <pvz> by the way,i'm having some trouble with ffmpeg
[12:11] <ctothej> dxdt: it's not detecting the presses.
[12:11] <pvz> i'm trying to encode a video to the ipod format...
[12:12] <pvz> i get "Unknown codec 'aac'" even though i have faac,faad,"libs" and etc
[12:12] <dxdt> dxdt, I got nothing then, that's the limit of what I know about keyboards really :(
[12:12] <ctothej> Pommie: xev is not detecting the keypresses
[12:12] <ctothej> thanks dxdt
[12:12] <shwag> what is ACPI ?
[12:12] <kronus_> is there any way I can see debug messages when 6.10 server ed. starts?
[12:12] <kronus_> instead of "now starting..."
[12:12] <Pommie> ctothej : as long as you have the cursor in the window, it should. If nothing comes up, you've got one of those PITA keyboards.
[12:13] <dxdt> kronus_, can you just press Ctrl+Alt+ F1 or F2 (I forget which) and it will take you to a console and show you stuff
[12:13] <shwag> where do I set  acpi=off ?
[12:13] <Duckhunt> MEG: Still here?
[12:13] <Gosha> oooh.. mu HD is full
[12:13] <Gosha> 100%
[12:13] <Gosha> XD
[12:13] <erUSUL> kronus_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and disable splash and quiet boot options...
[12:13] <Judicata> dxdt: if you're talking about virtual consoles, F1-F6 will get you to your VCs, and F7 will take you back.
[12:14] <Gosha> my*
[12:14] <kronus_> the thing is, I can't even boot into the sytem
[12:14] <kronus_> system*
[12:14] <ctothej> Damn PITAs'
[12:14] <kronus_> and switching to a tty didn't work
[12:14] <erUSUL> !boot | shwag
[12:14] <Judicata> they can be super handy if you're not using a gui.
[12:14] <ubotu> shwag: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | ctothej
[12:14] <ubotu> ctothej: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:14] <ctothej> haha
[12:14] <Pommie> ctothej : Getting hotkey support is still pretty difficult, with the mishmash of different ways manufacturers have implemented it.
[12:15] <kronus_> all I see after grub finished its stuff, is "now starting..."
[12:15] <kronus_> and then the system reboots
[12:15] <kronus_> so I can't even get a shell
[12:15] <pvz> anyway,is there a encoder for ipod video formats in graphic mode?
[12:15] <Gosha> waah, scary
[12:15] <fizzlifax> Hi,
[12:15] <fizzlifax> I have some problem with my swap. It is never recognized by Kubuntu 6.10
[12:16] <ctothej> Pommie: err, so it might not be as simple as picking up a certain code for a key press?
[12:16] <Gosha> the avalialiable bar sinks rapidly
[12:16] <shwag> erUSUL: doesnt say anything about ACPI there
[12:16] <Gosha> :O
[12:16] <aardfox> i just booted up ubuntu for the first time in a while and it's running sluggishly. i have changed nothing to my knowledge, and my hardware is the same. does anyone have any ideas for a fix, or a possible way to scan for errors?
[12:16] <age6racer> shades66: nope still no luck
[12:16] <erUSUL> kronus_: even in recovery mode??
[12:16] <paulcager> !myserver
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <kronus_> yeah
[12:16] <erUSUL> shwag: but it explain about boot options, which acpi=off is
[12:16] <Duckhunt> Bye
[12:16] <Pommie> ctothej : heh.. nope. Truth be told, in the 20 years I've used UNIX, I've given up on the idea of it ever working right. :S
[12:16] <shades66> age6racer:  :(     is there anything at the end of the output from the dmesg command?
[12:16] <Judicata> kronus_: will the liveCD still boot?
[12:17] <shwag> erUSUL: noacpi  actually it looks like
[12:17] <kronus_> i'm installing the server edition, so it's not a liveCD but just a plain installer
[12:17] <Judicata> aardfox: try typing "top" into a console, and seeing if anything is eating up your CPU.
[12:17] <Judicata> kronus_: Oh, sorry.
[12:18] <kronus_> Judicata: by installing i mean "installed, and am failing at booting"
[12:18] <age6racer> shades66: you mean something like 'ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:376): setting configuration failed (00010003)
[12:18] <Judicata> kronus_:  Right, sorry - I misunderstood.
[12:18] <shinobi2> if i ssh into ubuntu 6.06 and `wget http://www.xyz.NEW_ubuntu.iso`  ; then close ssh terminal, will download still continue?
[12:19] <fizzlifax> Hi, anybody who knows details about swap mounting?
[12:19] <aardfox> Judicata, it isnt using much memory now. i've noticed it most when i'm starting up a program. it now takes much longer than usual for anything to start
[12:19] <Pommie> ctothej : What kind of keyboard is it, anyways?
[12:19] <yggdrasil> does anyone know of a skype usb phone that will work with linux ?
[12:20] <ctothej> Pommie: Zboard, standard keyset.
[12:20] <Judicata> aardfox: I see,so Nautilus or something isn't taking up a bunch of CPU (not memory)? That's my only idea.
[12:20] <dxdt> shinobi2, no, use something like screen.
[12:20] <Qworg> Anyone know of any USB based video capture devices that work with Ubuntu?
[12:20] <Algorithm> shinobi2: No, use screen
[12:21] <usambara> hi
[12:21] <shinobi2> dxdt: ok, Algorithm thx
[12:21] <Gosha> !ntfs
[12:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:21] <aardfox> Judicata Xorg is consistantly taking up about 3% to 6%
[12:21] <fizzlifax> shinobi: no it will not work it will stop unless You started the command with nohup
[12:21] <Gosha> !fuse
[12:21] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:21] <Gosha> !nfts-3g
[12:22] <phonox> i use ubuntu 6.10 with 3rd mousebutton emulation to scroll by pressing the middle button of my ultranav on thinkpad. Sometimes the browser moves back to the last page when i scroll. what can i do?
[12:22] <shades66> age6racer:  Not sure what the means.  Googling finds "http://home.telkomsa.net/richm/hp-nx6125.html"  which suggests that ndiswrapper needed updating. Might be worth trying if you are ok with compiling and installing programs
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <Judicata> kronus_: have you tried Dapper instead?
[12:22] <Pommie> ctothej : Well, seeing that you're not getting keyboard events, this might not help... but you might want to try the "kmflcomp" package in ubuntu.
[12:22] <fizzlifax> I had also some problems with mouse on the knoppix 5.1.1 dist
[12:22] <Pommie> !kmflcomp
[12:23] <dxdt> phonox, does it do it if you middle click in the middle of a page(not on a link)?  Does it go back then?
[12:23] <ubotu> kmflcomp: KMFL Compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-1 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 108 kB
[12:23] <Gosha> !nfsd
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <Gosha> what is nfsd?
[12:23] <kronus_> Judicata: no, should I?
[12:23] <Pommie> Gosha : The network filesystem daemon
[12:23] <aardfox> Judicata, it sometimes jumps up to about 11%, and higher when I load a program. What exactly is Xorg? and might it have something to do with a Beryl install I did a while ago, then ditched?
[12:23] <phonox> nfsd: network file system daemon
[12:23] <Gosha> hmm, k
[12:23] <Pommie> !nfs | Gosha
[12:23] <ubotu> Gosha: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:23] <Judicata> kronus_: If Edgy isn't working, I would try Dapper - it is more stable and does not sacrifice much at all
[12:23] <shades66> age6racer:  You said that it worked before.  Have you upgraded from a previous ubuntu?
[12:24] <phonox> does anyone experience his browser switching back to the last page when scrolling?
[12:25] <ubuntunoob> judicata!
[12:25] <age6racer> no I had to reinstall and now my wireless doesnt work properly anymore. I used firmware last time (not ndiswrapper) but that wont install this time so I got ndiswrapper working (kinda)
[12:25] <ubuntunoob> i tried reinstalling  it
[12:25] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: how goes?
[12:25] <ubuntunoob> it didnt fix it
[12:25] <ubuntunoob> im going to reinstall windows
[12:25] <ubuntunoob> its going to be a major pain
[12:25] <fizzlifax> Why is kubuntu not recognizing and mounting my swap since knoppix is it?
[12:26] <ubuntunoob> because ill have to reinstall alot of programs, fix settings, ect.
[12:26] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: Crap. Sorry. Maybe someone else can help you first, though. It just seems like it is a problem that could be fixed.
[12:26] <ubuntunoob> i know, but i dont know where to go for help
[12:26] <JamesG> phonox: I've run into this.. You need to change the zAxisMapping setting in your xorg.conf. See this page for some more details: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286124
[12:26] <Pommie> Judicata , ubuntunoob : What's the problem?
[12:26] <Qworg> How about this instead - if I was looking to work with video in Ubuntu, what would be the best way?
[12:26] <ubuntunoob> i cant boot windows
[12:26] <Atom-> ubuntunoob you have access to any working windows at all ?
[12:26] <ubuntunoob> it gives me a 0xc000003a error
[12:27] <aardfox> Xorg is taking up a lot of memory, and I can't remember what it's used for. Does it have anything to do with a Beryl installation that I did a while ago?
[12:27] <Judicata> Pommie: Can't boot his windows partition, but the partition mounts.
[12:27] <ubuntunoob> all of my files are still there
[12:27] <Atom-> a different HDD Perhaps ?
[12:27] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : This happens after you select it in the grub bootloader?
[12:27] <ubuntunoob> yes
[12:27] <Atom-> a small hd that can be used
[12:27] <shades66> age6racer: i couldn't get ndiswrapper working properly with mine (Broadcom Corporation BCM4318) and ended up using the bcm43xx module
[12:27] <Judicata> aardfox: x.org is very important if you want to use a GUI. It could very well have to do with beryl. Is Beryl running?
[12:27] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : Is it a windows BSOD (I'm guessing)
[12:27] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[12:27] <ubuntunoob> fatal system error
[12:28] <ubuntunoob> like the one here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316503
[12:28] <aardfox> Judicata: no, I uninstalled it.
[12:28] <Atom-> ubuntunoob its probably just some missing system files, or unreferenced
[12:28] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : Chances are that something got corrupted... you could try to use the Windows CD to boot from and attempt a repair of the windows installation.
[12:28] <age6racer> whats the module? do you mean firmware?
[12:28] <milos83> Can someone give me link please where I can download and them manually install w32 codecs?
[12:29] <ubuntunoob> the thing is that acer never sent me a windows cd
[12:29] <ubuntunoob> i can still reinstall windows but its not from cd
[12:29] <Judicata> aardfox: do you know what kind of video card and driver you have?
[12:29] <Algorithm> milos83: Look in the community docs on ubuntu's website
[12:29] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : UGH... well, so what, the Acer CD just wants to totally blast the partitions?
[12:30] <ubuntunoob> I've never had to reinstall windows on the laptop before so i dont know how it will work
[12:30] <ubuntunoob> but its what i assume
[12:30] <hexidigital> i'm creating a backup of my system.. besides /home and /etc, are there other critical directories to backup?
[12:30] <ubuntunoob> and i have priceless files that i dont want to loose
[12:30] <ubuntunoob> so im at a crossroad
[12:31] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: since the drive mounts, starting backing stuff up in ubuntu.
[12:31] <CraZy675> ok I installed my dlink wda-1320 wireless card, now how do I get kubuntu to recognize it?
[12:31] <shades66> age6racer:  the kernel module bcm43xx which in turn loads the firmware
[12:31] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : Well, for what it's worth, assuming they're not totally idiotic... if you boot the CD, it should warn you that it might toast the partitions. If it's a Windows CD, it should try detecting stuff and give you standard options.
[12:31] <host`> ubuntunoob, are the linux and windows partitions on sepereate drives?
[12:31] <Atom-> ubuntunoob all i can sugest is you try to boot a windows on some HDD and give acronis disk director a try
[12:32] <age6racer> shades66: ok. so is there a howto somewhere for me to run through to get that working?
[12:32] <ubuntunoob> okay i'll start doing that. can i transfer them from ubuntu to windows after i reinsall it and they are on one single d thats partitioned 3 times
[12:32] <ubuntunoob> hd*
[12:32] <host`> if they're on the same HD then windows will overwrite ubuntu
[12:32] <adamonline> !mkfifo
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkfifo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <ubuntunoob> Would my best bet be to write them to cd?
[12:33] <host`> yes
[12:33] <Pommie> yep
[12:33] <Pommie> If you can
[12:33] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: the windows cd will likely wipe things out. Burn your important files to CDs.
[12:33] <adaptr> when in doubt, assume the worst
[12:33] <shinobi2> how do i find out if screen is running? ps aux ?
[12:33] <Pommie> indeed
[12:33] <Judicata> aardfox: did I ask you already what driver/video card you use?
[12:33] <Pommie> Especially where reformatting comes into play.
[12:33] <ubuntunoob> okay, now how do i acess the file buning software in ubuntu? is it drag and drop or what?
[12:33] <aardfox> Judicata: I have an ATI Radeon X700 pro
[12:33] <host`> windows 98 you could sellect an option to not format and just install windows to the fat partition, but I think xp wipes it all out. I do know one thing though, and that's that grub won't be there anymore so you can't boot ubuntu
[12:34] <aardfox> Judicata: I tried to private message you, but i guess you didnt recieve the message
[12:34] <shades66> age6racer :  try   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear    I think that is what I used
[12:34] <Pommie> host` : Windows has a "fix installation" option that doesn't format anything.
[12:34] <host`> !k3b ubuntunoob
[12:34] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB
[12:34] <shinobi2> Algorithm: how can i tell if screen is running?
[12:34] <Judicata> aardfox: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin and give me the URL?
[12:34] <age6racer> thanks shades
[12:34] <Judicata> aardfox: oh, shoot sorry
[12:34] <_Sean> !startup
[12:34] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:35] <ubuntunoob> well my laptop with ubuntu doesnt have internet acess so can i just drag and drop files?
[12:35] <age6racer> oh yeah, I've used that one. Thats the one I followed the first time when it worked. now since the reinstall I cant get it to work!?
[12:35] <shades66> age6racer:  no problem.  good luck !
[12:35] <shinobi2> Algorithm: i disconnected current shell, click on X.  then i log back in (ssh), and do `screen -d -r`, but instead of doing that, how can i tell if screen is still doing the downloading?
[12:35] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : Do you have a memory key you can put them on?
[12:35] <_Sean> where is the start up script file?
[12:35] <shades66> age6racer:  oh :(
[12:36] <age6racer> shades66:   :(   indeed
[12:36] <aardfox> Judicata: what exactly is pastebin? : \
[12:36] <raulillo> wenas noxes
[12:36] <ubuntunoob> i have a psp with a 1gb memory stick, will that work?
[12:36] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : (thumbdrive, etc)
[12:36] <raulillo> como puedo krear u usuario en mi propio ordenador teniendo servidor ssh
[12:36] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : if it's USB, and you don't care about the data, yeah.
[12:36] <age6racer> I really don't want to reinstall again but there are a few things that just don't seem to be working properly since I did this
[12:36] <ubuntunoob> okay
[12:36] <raulillo> esk ya e instalado el ssh
[12:36] <_Sean> !es
[12:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:36] <ubuntunoob> and yeah, the psp is usb
[12:37] <_Sean> where is the start up script file?
[12:37] <shades66> age6racer:  What about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[12:37] <adaptr> shinobi2: "screen -list" will tell you which screens are running - if any
[12:37] <Luis07> hi, is there any way to configure special keys from my keyboard, such as the 'home' key, to work under ubuntu?
[12:37] <adaptr> shinobi2: run "jobs"; it will show you all your current running jobs
[12:37] <Judicata> aardfox: if the bot didn't already tell you, its http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org.
[12:37] <ubuntunoob> darn, my battery is dead
[12:37] <ubuntunoob> well im going to recharge my psps battery then backup thje files
[12:37] <Luis07> hi, is there any way to configure special keys from my keyboard, such as the 'email' key, to work under ubuntu?
[12:38] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: You could also try using a CD - put it in, and you should be able to drag and drop.
[12:38] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : You don't have a real USB thumbdrive?
[12:38] <ubuntunoob> oh okay, thats what i was wondering
[12:38] <shades66> age6racer: i don't blame you for not wanting to re-install. I know it took a while to get mine working and then after playing around it just suddenly started working. Haven't dared changing anything incase i break it :(
[12:38] <ubuntunoob> i have plenty of those
[12:38] <juano> Luis07: system -> preferences -> keyboard
[12:38] <juano> Luis07: try there
[12:39] <PerlRonin> Hey
[12:39] <ubuntunoob> i'll leave this online while i go do this, and no i do not. i never had a need for one
[12:39] <ubuntunoob> (usb thumbdrive)
[12:39] <Pommie> ubuntunoob : Heh..ok
[12:39] <Gosha> i dont need gdm to run at boot if i have kubuntu-desktop installed, right?
[12:39] <kamikaze064> re all
[12:39] <Luis07> juano, I mean keys aside from the conventional ones.. keys to bring up the media player, to paste a text, email, etc... there are no such options in keyboard config screen
[12:39] <ubuntunoob> Thanks guys, you are really helping me more then you can believe it.
[12:39] <ubuntunoob> i'll be back in a bit
[12:39] <kamikaze064> i have some question
[12:40] <Pommie> !ask | kamikaze064
[12:40] <ubotu> kamikaze064: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:40] <blanky> Gunslinger|Deags: how'd it go yesterday
[12:40] <kamikaze064> i would like to use my dongle usb wifi wg111 on ubuntu 6.10
[12:40] <age6racer> haha, yeah I've been there. I have installed 3 different distros (and the current one 3 times) on this laptop since I got it less than a month ago. I have definately settled on Xubuntu but I just can't get wifi to work!
[12:40] <blanky> !botsnack
[12:40] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:40] <kamikaze064> but when i do dmesg
[12:40] <aardfox> Judicata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2092/
[12:40] <bitchslapper> lame question: can I change the X display association of a running application?
[12:40] <juano> Luis07: yea.. try searching for keyboard shortcuts config, must be somewhere in that menu
[12:40] <Judicata> ty
[12:41] <kamikaze064> this is wrote [17180297.476000]  rtl8187: Card successfully reset
[12:41] <kamikaze064> [17180303.404000]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[12:41] <kamikaze064> how can i do to run my wg111
[12:41] <blanky> bitchslapper: yeah
[12:41] <benkong2> anyone testing feisty on a thinkpad?
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> benkong2: Yes.
[12:41] <blanky> bitchslapper: ask, it's something like DISPLAY=:0
[12:41] <dosnlinux> is the purpose of /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs purpose to check for GNOME/KDE power managers?
[12:41] <bitchslapper> blanky, the lame question? or is it possible?
[12:41] <blanky> bitchslapper: ask though
[12:41] <Judicata> aardfox: you're using the same driver I do, and I've had some problems - give me a minute, and I'll see if I can help.
[12:41] <shinobi2> adaptr: thanks, screen -list works, jobs does not work.   but my other session got killed and was not able to bring it back
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> benkong2: #ubuntu+1 to discuss
[12:41] <h4wk> startkeylogger
[12:41] <h4wk> DCC SEND (characterlimitover14)
[12:41] <PerlRonin> If I press the volume buttons on my notebook, they manipulate a popup on the center of the screen.  That modifies the speaker, but I'm wearing headphones most of the time, and they're not affected.  The slider in the applet bar does work with the headphones though.  Any idea how to configure that center-popup-thingy?
[12:41] <bitchslapper> I am asking already
[12:41] <kamikaze064> someone can help me
[12:41] <blanky> bitchslapper: I said it's possible, I've done it but I'm on windows, it's something like DISPLAY=:0
[12:42] <benkong2> tonyyarusso; k thanks
[12:42] <aardfox> Judicata: thanks a lot man
[12:42] <blanky> bitchslapper: but I meant ask with what I told you
[12:42] <JamesG> Does anyone know how to disable or modify the delay when you type the wrong password into gnome-screensaver? Right now it makes you wait about 10 seconds before you can re-enter, which is hugely irritating.
[12:42] <blanky> bitchslapper: thought your name didn't go well around here haha
[12:42] <CraZy675> I have plugged in my new wireless card, now how do I tell kubuntu I have it?
[12:42] <adaptr> shinobi2: jobs does not work ? are you kidding ?
[12:42] <blanky> haha tonyyarusso's all hot
[12:42] <PerlRonin> Luis07: Sry, I came in here late.  You want shortcuts for keys on the desktop or inside a special application?
[12:42] <h3h_timo> i accidentally remove the gdesklets icon from my panel... could someone point me in the right direction to get it back??
[12:42] <Atom-> !acetoneiso
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acetoneiso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <kamikaze064> help me please
[12:42] <bitchslapper> blanky, yeah :P .. lebowski is signed in from my home computer
[12:43] <Atom-> !acetone
[12:43] <blanky> bitchslapper: haha, lebowski_
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acetone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <shinobi2> adaptr: nope
[12:43] <_Sean> how do I get alsa to start up when the computer logs in?
[12:43] <aardfox> Judicata: man, if fixes to problems like this were more graphically accessable, and i could play games without a hitch on Ubuntu, I would never use windows
[12:43] <PerlRonin> Luis07: Global keys can be configured in the gconf editor under apps/metacity
[12:43] <LjL> !msg the bot | Atom-
[12:43] <ubotu> Atom-: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:43] <blanky> wow tonyyarusso 's on fire
[12:43] <blanky> sup LjL ! :)
[12:43] <bitchslapper> I have an application running at my home computer, lets say xchat .. I have sshed into it right now, is there a way I could import that application to my current desktop here?
[12:43] <kamikaze064> no one can arrive to install the wg111 on ubuntu 6.10
[12:44] <adaptr> shinobi2: so the output is nothing ? a blank line ?
[12:44] <blanky> bitchslapper: try vnc
[12:44] <blanky> bitchslapper: are you on windows?
[12:44] <CraZy675> in my PCI section of my KInfoCentre the D-Link System Inc is found
[12:44] <LjL> hi blanky
[12:44] <blanky> :)
[12:44] <shinobi2> adaptr: yup
[12:44] <Kearin> Any recommendations for an .mp4 ---> .ogg converter?
[12:44] <_Sean> how do I get alsa to start up when the computer logs in?
[12:44] <kamikaze064> i m a french guy
[12:44] <blanky> Kearin: mencoder
[12:44] <shinobi2> adaptr: but screen -list works
[12:44] <Judicata> aardfox: I never use windows :). Let me post some code for you in pastebin. While I'm doing that, "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak" to make a backup of the file.
[12:44] <kamikaze064> so help me please
[12:44] <blanky> kamikaze064: yeah what happened
[12:44] <Kearin> Thank you Blanky.
[12:44] <blanky> Kearin: no problem :)
[12:44] <kishan> hi can any one help i am missing the panels in xubuntu but they are ok in gnome how to get the panels back in xubuntu
[12:44] <kamikaze064> i have this with my wg111
[12:44] <kamikaze064> [17180297.476000]  rtl8187: Card successfully reset
[12:44] <kamikaze064> [17180303.404000]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[12:44] <shinobi2> adaptr: ah... lappy running low on battery, laters , thanks
[12:44] <kamikaze064> when i do dmesg
[12:45] <kamikaze064> link is not ready
[12:45] <blanky> sorry kamikaze064 I don't know that much about that, but maybe LjL can help you
[12:45] <blanky> or Flannel
[12:45] <kamikaze064> Ljl
[12:45] <kamikaze064> can you help me
[12:45] <kamikaze064> please
[12:45] <kuma> hi :)
[12:45] <LjL> i don't think so, i don't have wireless
[12:45] <bitchslapper> blanky, no I am on linux
[12:45] <blanky> bitchslapper: oh, I suggest you try out vnc but I never learned how to set it up haha
[12:45] <kamikaze064> no one use a wireless card
[12:46] <harm_> vnc sucks
[12:46] <CraZy675> I'm going to try and re-install the card
[12:46] <kamikaze064> and succed to use it
[12:46] <harm_> dont get vnc its waay vunerable
[12:46] <blanky> bitchslapper: there's another one, I forget the name though, XDMCP or something
[12:46] <Judicata> aardfox: ADD the line posted here to your xorg.conf (make sure you leave the .bak file alone for now).
[12:46] <kamikaze064> i read that the kernel support rtl8187
[12:46] <blanky> harm_ should know
[12:46] <Judicata> aardfox: sorry - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2093/
[12:46] <kamikaze064> but its not working
[12:46] <kuma> my kubuntu isn't reading my FAT32 partition, after I reinstalled the grub (because a WinXP reinstall)
[12:46] <vleon> please help me quikly i need to know the command to check ip in termianl
[12:46] <blanky> kamikaze064: you speak french? have you been to the french channel? maybe they can help you better?
[12:46] <blanky> !fr | kamikaze064
[12:46] <ubotu> kamikaze064: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:46] <kamikaze064> yes
[12:47] <blanky> oh okay nevermind
[12:47] <bitchslapper> blanky, let me look it up on the internet, such things do make very good search phrases
[12:47] <kamikaze064> but they dont find
[12:47] <kamikaze064> so i try with your channel
[12:47] <vleon> im on a customers help chat
[12:47] <blanky> bitchslapper: hahaha, I love how you're not being sarcastic
[12:47] <pouderStream> Anyone willing to help about CDwriter burning blank CDs?
[12:47] <blanky> bitchslapper: if you're on linux, GNOME, it should be somewhere, remote desktop connection, in the menus
[12:47] <kamikaze064> i read some topic in the forum of ubuntu
[12:47] <kishan> any one can help me with the panels in xubuntu
[12:47] <pouderStream> I tried baker and k3b, same results
[12:48] <kamikaze064> and there are other guy that have the same problem with me
[12:48] <blanky> kishan: just ask the question
[12:48] <invitados> hi
[12:48] <kuma> my kubuntu isn't reading my FAT32 partition, after I reinstalled the grub (because a WinXP reinstall)
[12:48] <aardfox> Judicata: it says it's read only, and if I right click on it and try to set the permissions I can't
[12:48] <blanky> !es | invitados
[12:48] <ubotu> invitados: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:48] <bitchslapper> blanky, I am not particularly looking for remote desktop connection .. I just want that application to use my local X server on this box, instead of the one on my home machine
[12:48] <kamikaze064> no idea
[12:48] <invitados> hi
[12:48] <kamikaze064> for my problem
[12:48] <Judicata> aardfox: right. go to a terminal and "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:48] <blanky> invitados: que quieres?
[12:48] <Agrajag> bitchslapper: you can't do that
[12:48] <kishan> blanky: the panels disappered suddenly can u help its working ok in ubuntu(gnome) but in xbuntu i am unable to access
[12:48] <mzuverink> Anyone know a good ubuntu specific howto to set up a mail server using a dyndns name and webmail accessable?
[12:49] <invitados> tengo problema
[12:49] <erisco> what version of ubuntu will run on a version 2.4 kernel? If any?
[12:49] <Agrajag> bitchslapper: if you mean what I think you mean, which is moving a running X client to another server
[12:49] <blanky> kishan: I'm sorry, I don't even know what panels are haha
[12:49] <Pommie> bitchslapper : You could run X11, tunnelled through your SSH shell.
[12:49] <invitados> se me freeza la pc despues de entrar a la c
[12:49] <invitados> a la x
[12:49] <Agrajag> !es
[12:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:49] <blanky> invitados: ya te dije que uses #ubuntu-es
[12:49] <blanky> Agrajag: I already told him that rofl
[12:49] <erisco> !kernel
[12:49] <Agrajag> oh
[12:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:49] <invitados> ok
[12:49] <blanky> no problem
[12:49] <kishan> panels are those on desktop - where u find applications places,system menu items
[12:49] <invitados> como lo hago
[12:50] <blanky> invitados: escrive /join #ubuntu-es
[12:50] <bob535> Anyone know why my ubuntu likes taking screenshots when i press buttons that are not specified in the screenshot help
[12:50] <blanky> en esta ventana, y presiona ENTER
[12:50] <sleepy745> What are the Canonical Commercial repositories for? What do they
[12:50] <sleepy745>             contain?
[12:50] <bob535> such as my arrow keys, page keys, etc...
[12:50] <adaptr> !english | blanky
[12:50] <ubotu> blanky: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:50] <blanky> adaptr: ..., I'm telling him how to join #ubuntu-es
[12:50] <blanky> what good is having the channel if you can't even join it
[12:50] <Agrajag> adaptr: he's telling a spanish speaker how to go to the proper channel
[12:50] <adaptr> blanky: ONE line, TWO words: /j #ubuntu-es
[12:51] <bitchslapper> Pommie, yep, I am doing that already, all new applications that I spawn are running fine on this desktop
[12:51] <blanky> adaptr: then you could've told him
[12:51] <kuma> my kubuntu isn't reading my FAT32 partition, after I reinstalled the grub (because a WinXP reinstall) what can i do to fix it?
[12:51] <hcaB> Has anyone tried to install Freenet ?
[12:51] <bitchslapper> Pommie, the question is, how do I get applicatiosn that are already running on my home machine to this desktop (at school)
[12:52] <kishan> blankyy: panels are the menu item bar on the desktop
[12:52] <Agrajag> bitchslapper: you don't.
[12:52] <Agrajag> bitchslapper: the only way is via VNC
[12:52] <blanky> kishan: oh, do you remember anything significant that could've caused this 'problem' ?
[12:52] <Agrajag> You can't move a running X client to another server.
[12:52] <bitchslapper> Agrajag, hmmm ...
[12:52] <Judicata> kuma:  Do you mean you can't boot into Windows, or that you can't read that partition when Ubntu is running, or both?
[12:52] <adaptr> blanky: sorry, didn't mean to snap - but this is a *very *basic rule
[12:52] <blanky> kishan: you can probably try /join #xubuntu
[12:53] <bob535> adaptr, its a rule that doesnt need to be strictly enforced as it doesnt really hurt anyone
[12:53] <kuma> Judicata: second one
[12:53] <Pommie> bitchslapper : You want to pull the window of an already running application at a remote site into your current screen?  You can't. Unless you started the program in a VNC session at home, and you connect to that VNC server from school.
[12:53] <juano> kuma: cat /etc/fstab and paste it
[12:53] <Agrajag> Pommie: he doesn't have to start it in a VNC session
[12:53] <juano> kuma: use pastebin
[12:53] <Judicata> kuma: use pastebin please.
[12:53] <kuma> juano: ok
[12:53] <Agrajag> Pommie: vino lets you connect to the desktop.
[12:54] <Judicata> aardfox: any luck with the edit?
[12:54] <Agrajag> Pommie: that is to say, the X display on :0.0 or whatever
[12:54] <Pommie> Agrajag , bitchslapper : I'm not familiar with vino, but there you go.
[12:54] <D7k> is there really any difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server?
[12:54] <Music_Shuffle> server lacks a GUI?
[12:54] <bob535> D7k yes there is
[12:54] <Agrajag> vino is the GNOME VNC server, assuming you're running GNOME
[12:54] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[12:54] <D7k> but you can install gui on server
[12:54] <Music_Shuffle> Right.
[12:54] <Agrajag> if you're using kubuntu I don't know what you could do exactly
[12:54] <Music_Shuffle> But you asked by default if there were differences.
[12:55] <Gabby_Hayes> a new istall of Ubuntu 6.10 will not accept ANY password,  any ideas?
[12:55] <Music_Shuffle> There might be others, I just don't know what they are.
[12:55] <Gosha> KBluetoothD keeps trying to connect to AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF .. an di cant make it stop .. any ideas?
[12:55] <Pommie> !vino
[12:55] <ubotu> vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.4 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[12:55] <Judicata> Gabby_Hayes: for root or for any account?
[12:55] <HymnToLife> Gabby_Hayes, what happens when you try ?
[12:55] <CrazyDoode> !server
[12:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[12:55] <Gabby_Hayes> any account .. even the root
[12:56] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Gabby_Hayes about root | Gabby_Hayes, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:56] <kuma> Judicata & Juano: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2094/
[12:56] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: it should most definitely accept the one account that you were asked about during installation
[12:56] <mzuverink> Gabby_Hayes, you cant log into root by default
[12:56] <blanky> Gabby_Hayes: so you can't log in?
[12:56] <Gabby_Hayes> just says "invalid username or password"  :-(
[12:56] <blanky> Gabby_Hayes: try using the recovery console/terminal/thing
[12:56] <juano> !root | Gabby_Hayes
[12:56] <LjL> gob
[12:56] <ubotu> Gabby_Hayes: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:56] <invitados> hi
[12:56] <kuma> Judicata & Juano: I'm having problems with hda3
[12:56] <kishan_> join #xubutnu
[12:56] <blanky>  /
[12:56] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: right case? any non-english characters used in the username or password?
[12:57] <invitados> i need that you helpme
[12:57] <kishan_> join /#xubuntu
[12:57] <Gabby_Hayes> yep, I had ONE account when I installed, then when I made the first boot, and got in, added a user for normal work
[12:57] <Gabby_Hayes> nope
[12:57] <blanky> kishan_: /join #xubuntu
[12:57] <kishan_> thanks sorry
[12:57] <invitados> blanky
[12:57] <smoo2> how do I install a java JRE in ubuntu
[12:57] <blanky> invitados: what is the problem
[12:57] <juano> kuma: mm everything seems ok, try sudo umount /media/hda3
[12:57] <HymnToLife> !java | smoo2
[12:57] <ubotu> smoo2: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:57] <aardfox> Judicata: yep, now I'll see if that changed anything
[12:57] <Judicata> kuma: what happens when you try "sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2" ?
[12:57] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: hmm? and after you added the new user, you can't login either to the old or to the new?
[12:57] <Judicata> aardfox: ok, are you rebooting?
[12:57] <invitados> i update my system
[12:57] <juano> kuma: then do sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/hda3
[12:57] <Gabby_Hayes> grr // Incorrect username or password...
[12:58] <blanky> invitados: and then?
[12:58] <aardfox> Judicata: should i?
[12:58] <invitados> and my computur is freezing
[12:58] <Gabby_Hayes> yes,  Ljt   :-(
[12:58] <kuma> Judicata & Juano: ok, i'm on it
[12:58] <blanky> invitados: randomly?
[12:58] <invitados> no
[12:58] <Judicata> aardfox: well, I know you have to restart the X server, I doubt a full reboot is required.
[12:58] <qopi> does Edgy come with firefox 2?
[12:59] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: well i really suggest recovery mode, and see what's going on in /etc/passwd - or if even that fails, add "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel parameters in GRUB, that will dump you to a root console
[12:59] <invitados> i start in x mode
[12:59] <juano> kuma: can you access via terminal through cd /media/hda3?
[12:59] <Judicata> qopi: yup.
[12:59] <selecta_g> Hello all, can someone offer me some help in choosing an IM program?
[12:59] <Music_Shuffle> !IM
[12:59] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[12:59] <kuma> juano: yes, but it looks empty
[12:59] <Judicata> sorry I typed the wrong /dev/hdaX up there, btw.
[12:59] <mzuverink> selecta_g, I suggest gaim for gnome
[12:59] <bob535> selecta_g GAIM
[12:59] <CraZy675> I have installed a dlink wda-1320 wireless card.  I must not have the correct drivers installed, how do I install them from disk? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-211780.html says i should have no problems
[01:00] <kuma> juano: already checked in windows and is working fine
[01:00] <shwag> /etc/init.d/network restart   says   "No buffer space available"   I get no  eth0.  Im at a loss.
[01:00] <selecta_g> I use GAIM but was looking for something to do video conference; does GAIM do that?
[01:00] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs   LjL .. will try that
[01:00] <juano> kuma: can you access it now?
[01:00] <qopi> Judicata: hmz, wonder why mine is still on 1.5.03? I think maybe it has something with a hack I did to get 1.5 to work back in the day when ubuntu package wasn't working properly or something. Any ideas?
[01:00] <HymnToLife> selecta_g, no - not yet at least
[01:00] <invitados> would like that some one help me
[01:00] <selecta_g> OK, thanks... Is there a IM program with video capability?
[01:00] <kuma> Judicata & Juano: i umount, when tried to umount i receibe a message "incorrect filesystem, incorrect option"
[01:01] <usambara> bye
[01:01] <funkyHat> selecta_g, Gaim is planning to have video and voice support in the next major release... so not for a while. Kopete has some support for it I think.... aMSN has support for it for MSN messenger only
[01:01] <kuma> juano: I can go in, but it doesn't show me any files
[01:01] <Judicata> qopi: hmm... have you tried uninstalling firefox and installing it again from synaptic?
[01:01] <bob535> kuma
[01:01] <bob535> pastebin "fdisk -l"
[01:01] <bob535> for me
[01:01] <kuma> bob535: bob535
[01:01] <selecta_g> aMSN? That's an option then... My contacts are all MSN (or Jabber)
[01:01] <HymnToLife> qopi, what does this output ?              dpkg -l | grep firefox
[01:01] <juano> kuma: ahh ok, mm let me have a search and see if i can come up with something
[01:01] <juano> !fat
[01:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:01] <kuma> juano: ok, thanks
[01:01] <juano> !fat | kuma
[01:01] <ubotu> kuma: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:01] <mwalling> i just build a computer for my wife's mom, and am having trouble with the network interface. it is an integrated Broadcom AC 131
[01:02] <juano> kuma: try ubotus link
[01:02] <mwalling> running sudo ethtool eth0 reports that the link is not detected
[01:02] <ahhh_fosco> can someone help me with perl?
[01:02] <mwalling> but i have blinking lights
[01:02] <kuma> juano: ok, but, oddly enough, ican see the NTFS partition (windows)
[01:02] <mwalling> ahhh_fosco: more specific?
[01:02] <Judicata> blinkenlights!
[01:02] <juano> kuma: yeah.. thats weird.. fat should work with vfat
[01:02] <bob535> kuma please pastbin the results from "fdisk -l"
[01:03] <aardfox> Judicata: as long as i'm going to reboot i'm going to do some tweaks I saw on Digg
[01:03] <ahhh_fosco> well im making a irc bot and im making it join the channel #cottagecheeseass.com, but if i use the character # itll be a comment....any help
[01:03] <selecta_g> thanks for your help.. c u again... off to root out aMSN
[01:03] <CraZy675> what line do I put in my sources.list to get adept to read from the cdrom first?
[01:03] <aardfox> Judicata: seen these? http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed
[01:03] <kuma> bob535: ok
[01:03] <eric> how do you check your kernel version?
[01:03] <Agrajag> ahhh_fosco: escape it, use \#
[01:03] <HymnToLife> CraZy675, do          sudo apt-cdrom add
[01:03] <Judicata> aardfox: you can just log out of X and then ctrl+alt+bkspc, and that should apply the thing.
[01:03] <qopi> Judicata: nope, not recently, perhaps I should that again now
[01:03] <ahhh_fosco> ok ill try it ty
[01:03] <CraZy675> HymnToLife: thanks
[01:03] <HymnToLife> eric, uname -r
[01:04] <eric> thanks HymnToLife
[01:04] <qopi> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2095/ - looks like I do have 2 from that
[01:04] <Judicata> aardfox: i haven't looked, but perhaps you should try that one thing first - that way, if it breaks we know what caused it.
[01:04] <juano> kuma: ahh... gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  and change the last 1 in your hda3 line for a 0
[01:04] <kuma> bob535: fdisk -l, in console, i got no response
[01:04] <bronze_0_1> compengi: sorry - was at supper
[01:04] <kuma> juano: I heard you, right on it
[01:04] <aardfox> Judicata: good thinking : ). brb in a few
[01:04] <HymnToLife> qopi, your firefox is 2.0 indeed
[01:04] <bronze_0_1> never had that problem before. Did you google for it?
[01:04] <mwalling> can anyone help me with my network issues?
[01:04] <bob535> kuma sorry, use "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:04] <compengi> bronze_0_1, wb and np ;)
[01:05] <HymnToLife> do you have 1.5 when you do Help W About Firefox ?
[01:05] <HymnToLife> >*
[01:05] <compengi> bronze_0_1, i had solved the problem
[01:05] <bronze_0_1> cool, wadja do?
[01:05] <mwalling> is the broadcom chipset supported?
[01:05] <kuma> bob535: ok, but wait a sec
[01:05] <juano> kuma: after changing fstab do sudo mount -a
[01:06] <compengi> bronze_0_1, i still used rdesktop ip command but what needed was to install a password on the windows user that's all
[01:06] <juano> kuma: if that doesnt work, heres a line that a user claimed it worked for rw:
[01:06] <qopi> HymnToLife: hmz, any idea when I go to Help -> Mozilla Firefox it says 1.5.03? and I thought Firefox 2 had little x's to close on each tab?
[01:06] <bronze_0_1> heh.
[01:06] <HymnToLife> qopi, run firefox from a terminal
[01:06] <bronze_0_1> <Bu;garian accent> "Nice!"
[01:06] <HymnToLife> still the 1.5 showing up ?
[01:06] <B3N1> Hello all, I got a question. I have a new hd that I plan on using with Windows, Linux and Mac as a music library. I formatted it to NTFS since that is supported with all 3 OS's. I mounted the drive on my Mac but I only have permission to read. How can I change this so Win, Mac and Linux can read and write ?
[01:07] <juano> kuma: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0 0  , substitute your line for this line if it still doesnt work , then type in sudo mount -a
[01:07] <bob535> b3n1 ntfs is not officially supported on all three oses
[01:07] <compengi> bronze_0_1, btw where do you live?
[01:07] <B3N1> not officially but it works
[01:07] <bronze_0_1> Boston!
[01:07] <B3N1> I can't think of another file system besides FAT32 that would work
[01:07] <bob535> b3n1 if your having difficulties with Mac OS you should probably ask in a suitable channel for that
[01:08] <compengi> bronze_0_1, i see
[01:08] <kuma> juano: ok, give me a minute
[01:08] <qopi> HymnToLife: yep, when I just type firefox in the terminal it still says 1.5.03
[01:08] <compengi> !seen someothernick
[01:08] <juano> kuma: ok
[01:08] <ubotu> I last saw someothernick (n=ron@pool-72-85-175-137.bstnma.east.verizon.net) 21h 13m 12s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[01:08] <ctothej> Archive Manager cannot extract .rar files that are of the form: filename.part01.rar,  filename.part02.rar ... What can I do for this?
[01:08] <meheren> b3n1, /j #MacOSX
[01:08] <B3N1> the drive is now on ubuntu and this is where I want to change the permissions
[01:08] <meheren> b3n1, or ##Mac...
[01:08] <aardfox> I think it worked : )
[01:08] <aardfox> yay
[01:08] <bronze_0_1> 33 F,   0.6 C  We're having a heat wave!  (relatively speaking... )
[01:09] <HymnToLife> qopi, pastebin the output of           ls -l $(which firefox)
[01:09] <Monika|K> lol bronze_0_1
[01:09] <mzuverink> if I do a apt-get dist-upgrade in edgy, will that upgrade me to feisty?
[01:09] <bob535> you wouldnt change the permissions on ubuntu in order for mac os to access... afaik
[01:09] <Judicata> aardfox: good to hear. The fglrx driver has problems with the composite option - it took me a day to find that little line. I hope it continues to work for you.
[01:09] <bronze_0_1> much better than -15 C!
[01:09] <Monika|K> mzuverink a dist-upgrade only works if you change the edgy strings to feisty in your sources.list
[01:09] <Judicata> aardfox: as a test, run "glxgears -printfps" and see if the gears run smothly.
[01:09] <qopi> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2096/
[01:09] <B3N1> hmm... I formatted the disk in ubuntu so i suppose that set the permission to root
[01:10] <HymnToLife> qopi, you installed a Mozilla.com FF build, didn't you ?
[01:10] <B3N1> and the only way I see of changing it is through root in ubuntu unless im totally wrong ?
[01:10] <b08y> test
[01:10] <mzuverink> Monika|K, ok, thanks, I was just wondering
[01:10] <HymnToLife> well, you can either install the 2.0 build from Mozill.com
[01:10] <bob535> b3n1 your running all OSes on the same machine? or is it multiple machines?
[01:10] <B3N1> multiple machines
[01:11] <qopi> HymnToLife: /me shrugs, quite possibly a long time ago, like I said, think I might have done some hack to get 1.5 working ages ago, but I can't remember to be honest :P
[01:11] <mwalling> B3N1: you considered doing a nfs share?
[01:11] <bob535> okay, so you are trying to set it up as a shared network drive?
[01:11] <HymnToLife> qopi, yes, you did :)
[01:11] <B3N1> nfs ? not sure what that is... i'll have to check it out though
[01:11] <aardfox> Judicata: there's no printfps command. should i use -fullscreen instead?
[01:11] <HymnToLife> do you want to use the 2.0 from Mozilla or the Ubuntu one ?
[01:11] <B3N1> but if it works better than ntfs then ofcourse i'll change
[01:11] <mark_> any idea what would account for Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" when running glxgears or fglrxinfo?
[01:12] <bob535> !nfs
[01:12] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:12] <Judicata> aardfox: just run "glxgears" and see if the gears turn fast.
[01:12] <Judicata> aardfox: not fast, but "smooth" as in not choppy.
[01:12] <B3N1> I'll do that thanks :)
[01:12] <qopi> HymnToLife: heh ok, I'll take your word for it, I don't really care, I just want Firefox 2, I guess I want the Ubuntu one though
[01:12] <mwalling> !network
[01:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:12] <mwalling> !network-not-wireless
[01:12] <HymnToLife> qopi, first, delete the symlink : sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox
[01:12] <sleepy745> where is the ubunto bot channel?
[01:13] <aardfox> Judicata: 5k fps, looks good
[01:13] <sleepy745> !bot
[01:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:13] <HymnToLife> then pastebin the output of            ls -l /usr/bin | grep firefox
[01:13] <CraZy675> how do I install all wireless drivers from cdrom?
[01:13] <||arifaX> jrib: are you online
[01:13] <kohr_> How can I have a different background and different Icons in every desktop in Gnome?
[01:13] <tomce> hi, i just installed feisty and my pcmcia wireless-card turned into a wired card (and doesn't work).. any ideas?
[01:13] <Judicata> aardfox: that sounds great - you should be able to run games pretty well with that.
[01:14] <invitados> i need that you help me with install the codec to see avi y mpg
[01:14] <qopi> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2097/ :)
[01:14] <Judicata> can we recommend automatix in here?
[01:14] <Monika|K> invitados do you want to know or do you already know what the packages are named that you need to install?
[01:14] <theredpolak> Anybody want to waste some time helping a linux noob?
[01:14] <Monika|K> I don't see a reason why not Judicata
[01:14] <mark_> !ask
[01:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <theredpolak> I see how it is.
[01:15] <CraZy675> I'm going to boot using the live cd and see if my wireless card works
[01:15] <Monika|K> theredpolak instead of asking a meta question, ask the question right away :)
[01:15] <DrGroove> kohr_:  as far as i know it's not possible atm (maybe using beryl)
[01:15] <Monika|K> either someone will help or not
[01:15] <theredpolak> How do I go about setting up partitions to install Ubuntu?
[01:15] <invitados> monika i dont see  ani avi
[01:15] <Harry> where is the PHP executable located when using the LAMP install process?
[01:15] <Judicata> invitados: head over to www.getautomatix.com, install it, and there is an option to install the codecs.
[01:15] <bob535> theredpolak what can i do for you?
[01:15] <aardfox> Judicata: the only problem is games tend not to run in Linux:D, unless you're using a windows simulation, which tends to be slow
[01:16] <kohr_> DrGroove What is beryl?
[01:16] <matt4magic> theredpolak: Do you need multiboot?
[01:16] <invitados> but i didnt see for install for ubuntun 5.10
[01:16] <HymnToLife> qopi,        sudo rm /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/firefox /usr/bin
[01:16] <theredpolak> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop, and in the end I hope to have it set up to dual boot Windows/Ubuntu.
[01:16] <theredpolak> So yeah, I do.
[01:16] <HymnToLife> then firefox from a terminal, voila
[01:16] <Judicata> aardfox: Wine does a great job with some games, Cedega does a good job with others, and yet other games have linux ports.
[01:16] <bob535> talk to me in private chat polak
[01:16] <matt4magic> Ok. Then you need to plan ahead.
[01:16] <HymnToLife> you can sudo rm -rf /opt/firefox if you don't need the old one anymore
[01:16] <matt4magic> Ok. Bob takes it.
[01:17] <DrGroove> kohr_:  it's a window manager, by default the metacity window manager is used
[01:17] <mwalling> anyone want to help me bring a dead eth card to life?
[01:17] <h3xis> mwalling, why try? just throw it out and buy a new one
[01:17] <Monika|K> invitados are you using Gnome (Ubuntu) or KDE (Kubuntu)?
[01:18] <ubuntunoob> Okay, here i go...it stinks to reformat but i gotta :(
[01:18] <riotkittie> mwalling: define dead.
[01:18] <DrGroove> kohr_:  but not sure if it supports different setups in different workspaces, i believe i've read it is posisble with beryl and kde
[01:18] <Gosha> !opengl
[01:18] <riotkittie> ubuntunoob: why?
[01:18] <Harry> how do i figure out where my php executable is located?
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <kohr_> DrGroove, how much stuff would I have to recustimise to use that? how much of panels and stuff are gnome and how much is Metacitys>
[01:18] <mwalling> h3xis: because then i would need a new mobo
[01:18] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: sorry, make sure you get everything you need first.
[01:18] <Kyral> Harry: which php
[01:18] <invitados> gnome
[01:18] <Harry> Kyral: 5
[01:18] <Kyral> Harry: No literally in a terminal "which php"
[01:18] <invitados> monika  gnome ubuntu 5.10
[01:18] <Harry> oh. lol
[01:18] <riotkittie> heh.
[01:19] <h3xis> mwalling, why is it "dead?"
[01:19] <mwalling> riotkittie: i can't get dhcp (or any connectivity) off it
[01:19] <h3xis> ah
[01:19] <Harry> Kyral: doesn't output anything
[01:19] <h3xis> mwalling, what kind is it
[01:19] <ahhh_fosco> ya i get an error when i try \#channel
[01:19] <mwalling> ethtool says linkdetected: no
[01:19] <DrGroove> kohr_:  changing metacity to beryl doesn't break gnome so you don't have to worry about that, but it does require you to do some console tweaking
[01:19] <Kyral> Harry: Then it doesn't know where it is
[01:19] <mwalling> h3xis: broadcom ac 131 integrated
[01:19] <riotkittie> mwalling: is it being shown ifconfig?
[01:19] <Kyral> Harry: Which prolly means its not installed
[01:19] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: Also, right after the install, I encourage you to install Ubuntu again to see if it works.
[01:19] <Monika|K> Why are you using such an old version, invitados?
[01:20] <DrGroove> kohr_:  on the forums you'll find some howto's, jus search for beryl
[01:20] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: What happened sounds like either a hardware problem or a strange fluke.
[01:20] <mwalling> riotkittie: yes
[01:20] <Harry> Kyral: i can run scripts. and phpinfo() doesn't help me out much
[01:20] <h3xis> mwalling, did it work in the livecd?
[01:20] <Kyral> Harry: uhhh....locate php?
[01:20] <CraZy675> okay my wireless card works when I boot from the live cd, what do I have to do to make it work from the hdd?
[01:21] <mwalling> my iso didn't have a live cd
[01:21] <Kyral> Harry: Again literally "locate php"
[01:21] <mwalling> i had an older one, but it was scratched
[01:21] <h3xis> mwalling, which release are you running
[01:21] <Monika|K> invitados on Breezy (5.10) Ubuntu you need these packages for the codecs: libxvidcore4  gstreamer0.8-plugins  gstreamer0.8-faac  gstreamer0.8-faad gstreamer0.8-lame  gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg  gstreamer0.8-xvid gstreamer0.8-pitfdll  libquicktime1
[01:21] <LjL> mwalling: what is the name of your ISO file?
[01:21] <mwalling> dont remember
[01:21] <mwalling> it was downloaded from a torrent on a different computer
[01:21] <h3xis> !version | mwalling
[01:21] <ubotu> mwalling: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:22] <Monika|K> invitados additionally you need to get w32codecs
[01:22] <Monika|K> these are not in the repositories
[01:22] <Monika|K> you download them as a *.deb file
[01:22] <mwalling> (i am on my win2k work computer)
[01:22] <Monika|K> and install that
[01:22] <LjL> mwalling: well both Dapper's and Edgy's main CDs (the Desktop CDs) are 'live'. if you're using an older version, you should upgrade. if you're using the Alternate CDs, then yeah, that's a text-mode installation and no 'live' session
[01:22] <mwalling> h3xis: 6.10
[01:22] <invitados> and how i can do that
[01:22] <mwalling> LjL: 6.10
[01:22] <invitados> please monika
[01:22] <h3xis> mwalling, was it the alternate install or an official x86 install?
[01:22] <Juice^> someone knows of a complete mp3 tool for making tagging/nfo/m3u/sfv for mp3 albums? to archive the collection..
[01:22] <theredpolak> I'm looking to set up a dual boot with Windows/Ubuntu on my laptop, can anybody help me out?
[01:23] <bob535> polak
[01:23] <LjL> mwalling: 6.10 is Edgy. if you downloaded the Desktop CD, that's definitely 'live'
[01:23] <bob535> can you not see my replies
[01:23] <mwalling> it was a torrent i got off ubuntu.com
[01:23] <theredpolak> I cannot.
[01:23] <bob535> huh
[01:23] <Judicata> Juice^: a tag editor? Easytag is pretty good - its in the repos.
[01:23] <mwalling> lemme see if i can retrace my steps
[01:23] <bob535> interesting
[01:23] <h3xis> mwalling, when you put the CD in and let it boot from it, did you get a desktop?
[01:23] <bob535> well then, guess we will have to do it in here
[01:23] <mwalling> i have sat internet at home, and so i downloaded it at my firehouse
[01:23] <bob535> first question, why do you want to keep windows?
[01:23] <mwalling> h3xis: no it dumped me into a text install
[01:23] <theredpolak> Gaming.
[01:24] <bob535> which games
[01:24] <Judicata> Juice^: and Amarok pretty much does everything.
[01:24] <LjL> mwalling: anyway what's your current problem? i think i've missed it, and i suppose the live thing is just a side issue?
[01:24] <h3xis> mwalling, that's odd. sounds like alternate install
[01:24] <mwalling> LjL: no network connectivity
[01:24] <LjL> mwalling: text install? then that was the alternate cd
[01:24] <CraZy675> how do I install the madwifi driver?
[01:24] <mwalling> LjL: is that a bad thing?
[01:24] <LjL> mwalling: and you have ethernet?
[01:24] <riotkittie> if he wants to keep windows, dont try to talk him out of it.
[01:24] <theredpolak> Basically whatever comes out.
[01:24] <LjL> mwalling: no, not really, as long as ubuntu installs
[01:24] <mwalling> LjL: rephrase ?
[01:24] <mwalling> i have an rj45 port
[01:24] <Spawn311> all I am using a trendnet PCMCIA card with ndiswrapper and I am noticing slugish performance under ubuntu -- any ideas what could cause that
[01:24] <neil__> greetings all. how can I make gaim work behind a university firewall / proxy? MSN in windows works fine here...
[01:24] <LjL> mwalling: what's your network connection like?
[01:25] <saif> hello, i remember some1 telling me once that if the output of "glxinfo | grep render" is yes, it means that i can run aiglx, the new fglrx drivers gave a yes, can i run aiglx?
[01:25] <LjL> mwalling: well, that would seem to say it's ethernet most likely ;)
[01:25] <bob535> okay, so second question, would it be a problem if you reformatted the existing drive right now?
[01:25] <HymnToLife> qopi, dit it work ?
[01:25] <LjL> mwalling: you're saying your network card isn't being recognized?
[01:25] <theredpolak> Its a hassle I'd like to avoid.
[01:25] <Monika|K> invitados do you want to know how to install packages from a repository or do you only want to know about how to install the w32codecs deb file?
[01:25] <mwalling> LjL: i have a slack box and an ubuntu laptop at home that work fine
[01:25] <qopi> hi HymnToLife thanks for that, that worked once I closed all the firefox's I had opened, including chatzilla
[01:25] <bob535> okay
[01:25] <riotkittie> slack! yay.
[01:26] <neil__> Anyone? GAIM behind a firewall, msn in windows works automatically...
[01:26] <qopi> HymnToLife: but my fonts has got a lot worse :( (and they were bad already after my upgrade to Edgy)
[01:26] <qopi> s/has/have
[01:26] <LjL> mwalling: well they have different cards on them i suppose. anyway, there can be a hundred reasons why the network would not work... so to start with, does "ifconfig" give you an "eth0" entry?
[01:26] <mwalling> LjL: yes
[01:26] <mwalling> with a link connected: no
[01:26] <Judicata> saif: I tried this the other day, and couldn't get fglrx + AIGLX to work, so went back to fglrx + XGL.
[01:26] <riotkittie> !fonts
[01:26] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:26] <Juice^> Judicata: thanks
[01:27] <Spawn311> has anyone seen wireless cards that run well on windows -- run crappy with the ndiswrapper under ubuntu
[01:27] <mwalling> riotkittie: i love slack! this computer is for my mother in law
[01:27] <mwalling> hence i chose ubuntu
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> Spawn311: Mine works out of the box (Intel Wireless/PRO 2915 a/b/g)
[01:27] <Monika|K> neil__ I never got Gaim to work behind a Proxy and used Licq instead, maybe the same problem for firewalls?
[01:27] <LjL> mwalling: when you plug in the cable, do the LEDs on the card (if any) light up?
[01:27] <theredpolak> bob?
[01:27] <qopi> thanks riotkittie /me looks
[01:27] <saif> Judicata, hehe, thanx! didn't want to go through all trouble and then revert!
[01:27] <bob535> theredpolak just looking for the right re-partitioning software
[01:27] <mwalling> LjL: yes
[01:28] <theredpolak> Alright, thanks.
[01:28] <Spawn311> tonyyar: mine works but everytime it hits google it acts like it has never been there
[01:28] <bob535> ive never used before, but I know it exists
[01:28] <Judicata> saif: some day.
[01:28] <theredpolak> Would PartitionMagic work?
[01:28] <Spawn311> it is driving me nuts
[01:28] <LjL> mwalling: do you have DHCP on the network?
[01:28] <Judicata> saif:  or the oss drivers will get fast enough.
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> Spawn311: Hmm?  You mean you lost your cookie, or what?
[01:28] <mwalling> its directly connected to the cable isp
[01:28] <saif> Judicata, I was hoping amd would open the drivers! :S
[01:29] <neil__> anybody here know anything about gaim behind a firewall/proxy?
[01:29] <LjL> mwalling: uhm, directly...? through a modem, i suppose
[01:29] <mwalling> LjL: road runner uses dhcp to assign ips
[01:29] <Spawn311> tonyyar: it means when I type www.google.com into the search everytime it takes like 6-10 seconds to hit that site
[01:29] <Judicata> saif: I wouldn't complain.
[01:29] <riotkittie> theredpolak: PARTITION MAGIC WILL EAT YOUR BABIES.  use the gparted live CD instead  ... its on sourceforge, i dont remember the exact url but google will turn up a link
[01:29] <mwalling> LjL: ...i mean as opposed to through a router
[01:29] <threeonefour> how do i make my ftpserver run on a different port
[01:29] <qopi> !Mplayer
[01:29] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[01:29] <Spawn311> under windows using the same hardware it is way faster
[01:29] <theredpolak> Not my poor babies...
[01:29] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:29] <Monika|K> invitados use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb to install a *.deb file
[01:30] <neil__> (00:29:54) dns: Successfully sent DNS request to child 8806
[01:30] <neil__> (00:29:54) dns: Got response for 'nexus.passport.com'
[01:30] <neil__> (00:29:54) proxy: Connecting to nexus.passport.com:443 with no proxy
[01:30] <neil__> (00:29:54) proxy: Connect would have blocked.
[01:30] <neil__> i get this :/
[01:30] <mwalling> theredpolak: also gparted has a live-usb (give new life to your old 32mb flash drives)
[01:30] <Monika|K> I don't know what that exactly means neil__ but have you tried Licq instead of Gaim?
[01:30] <gNewPower> hi guys - I need some quick help with configuring my printer under Gnome.  What is a PPD file?!
[01:30] <bob535> thanks riotkittie
[01:30] <theredpolak> My lucky flash drive...
[01:31] <Spawn311> tonyyar: any ideas?
[01:31] <Monika|K> gNewPower it contains the driver information for a certain printer
[01:31] <Monika|K> gNewPower you find them in /usr/share/ppd
[01:31] <threeonefour> riotkittie, how do i make my ftpserver run on a different port
[01:31] <neil__> Monika|K nope... I will..
[01:31] <bob535> anyways theredpolak use that to sequester off a section of the drive away from windows, then put the ubuntu cd in the drive and boot from it, install ubuntu on the new partition
[01:31] <gNewPower> Monika|K: thanks - lemme try that
[01:31] <Monika|K> gNewPower why do you need to know this for setting up your printer?
[01:31] <neil__> bit confusing, windows is fine, but irc in linux is really dodgy, and gaim wont connect..
[01:31] <bob535> then, anytime you boot in the future it will give you a choice whether you want to boot to ubuntu or windows
[01:31] <neil__> I have filtered http so it has to go via a uni proxy, cant get out any other way
[01:32] <Monika|K> gNewPower there should be a list of printer manufacturers and printer types to select from
[01:32] <B3N1> Is there a filesystem that is fully supported in linux/windows/mac besides fat32 ?
[01:32] <GreySim> Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to convert filenames to work on FAT drives automatically?
[01:32] <riotkittie> threeonefour: what ftp server are you using?  if its something under X, check the options. if its not, see if theres a config file for it somewhere in /etc
[01:32] <Monika|K> B3N1 there is an ext2 driver for Windows
[01:32] <Monika|K> B3N1 I don't know if there is one for Mac
[01:32] <B3N1> yes I found the drievers for ext2 for win and mac
[01:32] <threeonefour> riotkittie, pureftpd
[01:32] <Monika|K> well, then why not use these?
[01:33] <gNewPower> Monika|K: where is it in /usr/share?  I don't see it...
[01:33] <B3N1> is that my only/best choice ?
[01:33] <Monika|K> there should be a directory /usr/share/ppd
[01:33] <aardfox> When i make a change to a file i edited in the terminal? write out?
[01:33] <gNewPower> Monika|K: ok. lemme try
[01:33] <CraZy675> okay here is my situation, I bought and installed a dlink wireless card.  I boot using the live cd, card works fine. boot from hdd the wireless assistant tells me "no usable wireless divices found" who do I add the correct drivers?
[01:33] <Monika|K> but gNewPower what dou you need this for?
[01:33] <Judicata> aardfox: what?
[01:34] <bob535> theredpolak did you understand?
[01:34] <LjL> mwalling: sorry, if you said anything to me please repeat, i went down myself while tinkering with dhclient... last thing i said was
[01:34] <LjL> mwalling: well you need to specify, in the country i live in i've never even *seen* a cable connection, and most people i know wouldn't even have a clue what it is. don't take things for granted. anyway, what happens if you type "sudo dhclient eth0"?
[01:34] <Judicata> aardfox: what did you use to edit it? gedit, vi, emacs?
[01:34] <aardfox> judicata: wow that sentence was screwed up. how do i save a file i edited in the erminal?
[01:34] <gNewPower> Monika|K: my gnome printer installer does not find it by itself...
[01:34] <HymnToLife> aardfox, depends on the editor you run
[01:34] <CraZy675> in the KinfoCenter the PCI card reads : Atheros Communications, Inc
[01:34] <aardfox> Judicata: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:34] <Monika|K> ok
[01:34] <LjL> aardfox: if you're using nano (which writeout would suggest), just ctrl+x
[01:35] <mwalling> LjL: i never got that, i'll try in a sec, i am looking in the bios
[01:35] <HymnToLife> aardfox, Ctrl+O, Enter, Ctrl+X
[01:35] <bmc> i have a question
[01:35] <_goofy_> how do i make a volume groupe
[01:36] <neil__> I've added my proxy.config url to the prefs->network proxy, anyway to check what's been obtained?
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> SpAwN: I'm not sure.  You positive it's your card, not the connection/DNS?
[01:36] <HymnToLife> bmc, just as, we'll answer if we can
[01:36] <bmc> here is my desktop, http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/5970/screenshotmx8.jpg how do i get it so it doesnt show dell restore and dell utility on the desktop?
[01:36] <HymnToLife> ask*
[01:36] <LjL> mwalling: i cannot really say for sure, but i doubt the BIOS settings are much involved, since your Ubuntu *is* apparently seeing the card, just not using it for some reason
[01:36] <lotacus> how do I change/view what color mode ubuntu is using?
[01:36] <LjL> lotacus: you mean what color depth?
[01:36] <riotkittie> CraZy675: odd. my dlink/wireless worked out of the box on ubuntu. have you tried going the ndiswrapper route? my card didnt work under a slackbased distro and i used madwifi but i'm not sure if you want to give that a shot
[01:36] <lotacus> yea
[01:36] <riotkittie> not that it is difficult
[01:36] <lotacus> LjL, yea
[01:36] <mwalling> LjL: its booting. i got to swap cables around.
[01:36] <LjL> lotacus: grep DefaultDepth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:37] <lotacus> LjL:  thanks
[01:37] <zach_> hey i just installed ubuntu on this computer, Im having trouble with the hard drive partitions, i cant get to my old files, only a windows backup, and when i mount that it trys to do a restore
[01:37] <Monika|K> bmc these are probably partitions
[01:37] <bmc> yeah how do i get it to not show my restore and utility partitions
[01:37] <LjL> lotacus: i think that sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg will let you change that, if it doesn't, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (but that will ask many questions, although the default is fine in just about all cases), otherwise just edit that file manually
[01:37] <CraZy675> riotkittie: I think the problem is the card is not recognized automatically and i have to install drivers, as the live cd rom it does work fine
[01:37] <Monika|K> bmc edit your /etc/fstab
[01:37] <riotkittie> zach_: elaborate. are you trying to boot into windows, or what ?
[01:37] <bmc> i dont know how to do that
[01:37] <Monika|K> with an editor with root rights
[01:37] <CraZy675> I just don't know what to apt get from the cdrom
[01:37] <zach_> no im in ubuntu, i just want to be able to get access to my old files
[01:37] <the_mx> selam millet
[01:38] <Judicata> bmc: First, "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak"
[01:38] <Monika|K> bmc, press alt+f2 and enter gksu gedit
[01:38] <riotkittie> CraZy675: yeah, i had the same issue under my other distro.  i think ndiswrapper or whatever will work for you but i am not really sure whats involved. i think you need the windows driver ...
[01:38] <kuma> Juano: are you still online?
[01:38] <zach_> but whenever i mount my the other partition that it should be in, its a backup for windows, not the giles
[01:38] <juano> kuma: yes, sorry i was afk
[01:38] <zach_> files*
[01:38] <_goofy_> does anyone know how to make a Logical Volum Groupe on a system that is already installed
[01:38] <juano> kuma: how did it go?
[01:39] <kuma> juano: don't worry, the bloody Konqueror crashed and it took down all my session
[01:39] <theredpolak> alright, so I've got Gparted downloaded, what now?
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> _goofy_: No, but I'm pretty sure there's an LVM guide on the wiki
[01:39] <Monika|K> bmc then comment out the lines for the two drives by putting a # at the beginning
[01:39] <riotkittie> !ndiswrapper
[01:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:39] <CraZy675> ok how do I install ndiswrapper from the dvd?
[01:39] <juano> kuma: oh.. well try the line i told you
[01:39] <kuma> juano: i'm about to change the 0 for the 1 and trying to mount hda3 again
[01:39] <linux_user400354> how do i get openssh-server to show up in bum? it is supposed to be showing in there.
[01:40] <juano> kuma: ok do that first
[01:40] <riotkittie> CraZy675: of that, i am not sure. i've never done package management from a dvd
[01:40] <juano> kuma: after changing and saving, do sudo mount -a
[01:40] <witless> my X session is crashing and restarting every time i run an OpenGL application - for example, my opengl screensaver
[01:40] <CraZy675> grrr i know its something soo easy too
[01:40] <Monika|K> bmc highlight me (say my name) if you have more questions about that
[01:40] <bmc> alright
[01:40] <witless> (gnome session)
[01:41] <mwalling> LjL: No DHCPOFFERS recieved
[01:41] <bmc> Monika|K i cant seem to get to the file i need to edit
[01:41] <kuma> juano: do I have to change the last 0 in hd3 line for a 1?
[01:41] <Monika|K> Have you started gedit with gksu gedit?
[01:41] <bmc> yeah
[01:41] <juano> kuma: no, you have to change the last 1 for a 0
[01:41] <Monika|K> then file -> open and open /etc/fstab
[01:41] <kuma> Juano: lol, right, sorry
[01:41] <juano> kuma: :)
[01:42] <Gosha> !ntfs
[01:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:42] <Gosha> !fuse
[01:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:42] <riotkittie> witless: do you have the proper drivers for your graphics device installed?
[01:42] <mwalling> LjL: you get that?
[01:42] <kuma> Juano: same error, I'll try with mount /dev/hda3/
[01:43] <qopi> !Codecs
[01:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <DARKGuy> Hey :) anybody good with bash scripting? I wonder if there is a script to "trim" the lines in a file, like, remove the spaces left after the line's last character (also named "leading spaces"?)
[01:43] <juano> kuma: kuma: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0 0  , substitute your line for this line if it still doesnt work , then type in sudo mount -a
[01:43] <bmc> Monika|K im not seeing /etc when i go to open
[01:43] <LjL> mwalling: yes... hm, i suppose you've used the network previously on the same computer?
[01:43] <Monika|K> is there a field to type it in?
[01:43] <witless> riotkittie: i haven't changed the drivers since this started happening
[01:43] <Monika|K> or is there an "up" button?
[01:43] <LjL> mwalling: (and with the same connection)
[01:43] <Monika|K> go as far up as possible
[01:43] <kuma> Juano: ok
[01:43] <zach_> hey i just installed ubuntu on this computer, Im having trouble with the hard drive partitions, i cant get to my old files, only a windows backup, and when i mount that it trys to do a restore
[01:43] <zach_> no im in ubuntu, i just want to be able to get access to my old files
[01:43] <slvmchn> is there a program for ubuntu that can export/browse .iso's?
[01:43] <zach_> but whenever i mount my the other partition that it should be in, its a backup for windows, not the giles
[01:44] <juano> kuma: after changing your line for that line, save , close then sudo mount -a
[01:44] <mwalling> LjL: i disconnected from irc because i had to pull the cable out of this computer and plug it into the new box
[01:44] <blanky> !iso | slvmchn
[01:44] <ubotu> slvmchn: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[01:44] <mwalling> LjL: so yes ;)
[01:44] <blanky> slvmchn: there's also some type of nautilus iso mount script
[01:44] <der0b> Has anyone had an upgrade of beryl that didn't require a system reboot in order to get it working properly?
[01:44] <der0b> if yes, how?
[01:44] <LjL> mwalling: but in the *new box* you've never used the connection succesfully before?
[01:44] <mwalling> no
[01:44] <LjL> in any OS?
[01:44] <LjL> ok
[01:44] <kuma> Juano: same error
[01:44] <invitados> monika i need i private to solve some problems
[01:44] <LjL> mwalling: what does ifconfig tells you on here
[01:45] <Valde> i need help geting drivers for my nvidia 6200 card agp
[01:45] <LjL> mwalling: (use the pastebin)
[01:45] <HymnToLife> !nvidia | Valde
[01:45] <ubotu> Valde: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:45] <mwalling> this is a win2k laptop
[01:45] <bmc> Monika|K im in the file now
[01:45] <juano> kuma: your error is that when you go in /media/hda3 you cant see anything?
[01:45] <LjL> mwalling: well, then what does ipconfig tell you
[01:45] <kuma> Juano: Wait, i fount the error log, pasting it
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> Monika|K, invitados: You're welcome to use #ubuntu-classroom if you wish for one-on-one help.
[01:45] <kuma> Juano: yup
[01:45] <CraZy675> my wireless card is nativly supported
[01:46] <LjL> mwalling: in other words - look up your IP address, subnet mask and gateway address, and try using those manually in your ubuntu box
[01:46] <juano> kuma: ok, mm it should work, why dont you try this
[01:46] <mwalling> did
[01:46] <Monika|K> bmc ok, now look for the lines for the two partitions that you want to get rid of and put a # in front of those
[01:46] <juano> kuma: sudo chmod 777 /media/hda3
[01:46] <aardfox> how can i tell if my computer is dual core?
[01:46] <mwalling> tried pinging the gateway ip and got dest host unreachable
[01:46] <aardfox> or 64 bit
[01:47] <gregg> Can anyone tell me why when I try to install Xubuntu it tells me that my monitor is out of range
[01:47] <riotkittie> if you have to ask how to tell if you have a dual core, its safe to say you dont have a dual core ;P
[01:47] <kuma> Juano: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2101/
[01:47] <mwalling> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2100/
[01:47] <LjL> mwalling: bah... try (on the ubuntu box) an lspci | grep Ethernet, and see what model it is, and ask google if there's any known incompatibility of some kind. i'm at a loss
[01:47] <ubuntunoob> Omg
[01:47] <ubuntunoob> i cant even restoree my hd!
[01:48] <aardfox> oh nevermind, i found some of the info. It's 64bit. How can I tell if it's dual core or hyperthreaded or whatever?
[01:48] <CraZy675> so the wireless card works for the live cd and not for the hdd install, so I need to take the steps the live cd takes automatically and do them manually for the hdd install
[01:48] <mwalling> newegg reports its a broadcom ac 131, and the ubuntu wiki lists another broadcom as working, but i'll give it a shot
[01:48] <CraZy675> i just don't know how to do that
[01:48] <gregg> does anyone know why I get a Monitor out of range sign when I try and install Xubuntu
[01:49] <mwalling> which is a bunch of bs
[01:49] <aussieaubs> gregg - check your xorg.conf file
[01:49] <mwalling> LjL: lspci reports SiS 190 Gigabit Eth adapter
[01:49] <gregg> what is that
[01:49] <gregg> How do I do this on install
[01:49] <Judicata> ubuntunoob: ok, that's a problem. Are you trying to use your windows cd?
[01:49] <aussieaubs> its prob trying to start up in 800x600 mode - does you r monitor support that (some lcds dont)
[01:50] <CraZy675> the only way i know is to re-install everything
[01:50] <CraZy675> which sounds like a waste of time
[01:50] <aussieaubs> gregg - try a diff monnitor if u can
[01:50] <CraZy675> so I need to learn the easier way
[01:50] <Monika|K> aardfox type cat /proc/cpuinfo and check the line model name, it will mention if it's 64 bit
[01:50] <gregg> Aussieaubs  I have been able to install Kubuntu okay
[01:50] <LjL> mwalling: i suppose "lsmod | grep sis" shows a sis190 entry?
[01:51] <gregg> Why won't Xubuntu install
[01:51] <kuma> Juano?
[01:51] <aussieaubs> oh k - hmm cant explain
[01:51] <juano> kuma: yes, just a second pls
[01:51] <aardfox> Monika|K: thanks
[01:51] <aussieaubs> maybe monitor drivers?
[01:51] <kuma> Juano: ok
[01:51] <nikin> i have a bit offtopic question... i have a new router, and i cant traceroute now... it stops at the router.... any ideas what to do
[01:51] <aussieaubs> is it a CRT?
[01:51] <gregg> yes
[01:51] <Cows> is there a regex generator?
[01:51] <aussieaubs> im guessing here...
[01:51] <mwalling> LjL: i didn't bother greping it, just read through, its only about 10 entries
[01:52] <mwalling> it is a rev 01
[01:52] <D7k> I don't get it, I installed openchrome, and I have 1280x1024 in my xorg conf, but it won't do it
[01:53] <CraZy675> all I'm trying to do is install drivers that are on the dvd but not on my hdd install because I just installed the new card
[01:53] <juano> kuma: mm.. weird though, if its hda3 it should work
[01:53] <CraZy675> and i don't know how to do that
[01:53] <kuma> Juano: did you saw the error log?
[01:53] <HymnToLife> CraZy675, which drivers ?
[01:53] <DARKGuy> Hey :) anybody good with bash scripting? I wonder if there is a script to "trim" the lines in a file, like, remove the spaces left after the line's last character (also named "leading spaces"?)
[01:54] <juano> kuma: yeah.. wrong filesystem it sais.. strange
[01:54] <juano> did you use the line i gave you and then do sudo mount -a?
[01:54] <CraZy675> HymnToLife: for my wireless card dlink wda-1320 theatheros chipset
[01:54] <HymnToLife> !atheros
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:54] <kuma> Juano: it was working well until i reinstalled the GRUB because WinXP erased it
[01:54] <juano> kuma: you have to change it for your actual line
[01:54] <CraZy675> madwifi
[01:54] <CraZy675> !madwifi
[01:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:54] <kuma> Juano: ok
[01:55] <Monika|K> DARKGuy that particular task can be done with sed pretty easily
[01:55] <juano> kuma: yeah winxp overrides MBR
[01:55] <HymnToLife> CraZy675, search the !wiki for it, I think those drivers need a bit of fiddling
[01:55] <mwalling> LjL: guess what i just found on the newegg site: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2102/
[01:55] <bitchslapper> when I cat a binary file, I get all those wierd characters displayed, which is expected .. but it also changes my prompt and the keys I type, how do I recover from this?
[01:55] <Monika|K> DARKGuy look at a sed tutorial, there will usually be included exactly that example
[01:55] <CraZy675> HymnToLife: see my problem is the card works fine when i bood from cd rom but my hdd install is missing whatever the live cd picked up cause i installed the card after the os
[01:55] <HymnToLife> bitchslapper, close your terminal window and reopen it
[01:55] <juano> kuma: anyway the problem isnt grub here, cause you only want to see your other partition from this one, not boot to it
[01:55] <bitchslapper> HymnToLife, :)
[01:56] <kuma> Juano: errr... i don't have the line i had before =/
[01:56] <jevangelo> anyone tried to install ubuntu on a dell demension e521?
[01:56] <HymnToLife> !anyone | jevangelo
[01:56] <ubotu> jevangelo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:56] <juano> kuma: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0 0
[01:56] <kuma> Juano: do you have the URL to the paste bin where i pasted the fstab?
[01:56] <kuma> Juano: oh, ok
[01:56] <chris1932> Hi all -- I have trouble with sound on my system. I keep having to do "killall esd" and "killall artsd" before being able to listen to things. It seems that when I use an app, it ties up my soundcard, and if I want to use any other apps that use sound, i have to kill the daemon. Does anyone know what I can do?
[01:57] <LjL> mwalling: oh. i'd found another site that pointed to something like that, but wasn't *quite* clear -- more on the lines of "are you sure it's really a sis190"? also, what i found out is that support for sis190 was removed in kernel 2.6.10 - or near that - because of serious bugs, and added back later
[01:57] <jevangelo> im having a problem with the onboard graphics on an e521
[01:57] <juano> kuma: just add that line over any /dev/hda3 line in your fstab, if any of course
[01:57] <mwalling> well, off to the store to get a card... thanks for the help (and patience)
[01:57] <mwalling> recomendations on a card?
[01:57] <mwalling> (so i get one that works?)
[01:58] <LjL> mwalling: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1612195 too (no answer)
[01:58] <juano> kuma: after saving fstab, do a sudo mount -a
[01:58] <livingtm> Im having trouble booting the ubuntu edgy live CD on a brand new system. Its a PentiumD 845 processor. It drops me to busybox
[01:58] <CraZy675> mwalling: wireless card?
[01:58] <kuma> kuma: did it, same error
[01:58] <DARKGuy> !sed
[01:58] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:58] <DARKGuy> o.O
[01:58] <DARKGuy> Oh well
[01:58] <juano> kuma: maybe try a different dir
[01:58] <juano> kuma: do this:
[01:58] <mwalling> CraZy675: no wired
[01:58] <juano> sudo mkdir /media/myhda3
[01:58] <LjL> mwalling: i haven't a clue, i cannot even tell you what i have, since i have an integrated card (VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  as reported by lspci)
[01:58] <CraZy675> mwalling: ah i use smc
[01:59] <juano> kuma: sudo mkdir /media/myhda3
[01:59] <Monika|K> Chris1932 what version of Ubuntu are you using? What sound card do you have?
[01:59] <LjL> mwalling: i used to have a realtek, and it worked fine, though i'd have to plug it in to see the model name lspci reports... i'll look at the chip
[01:59] <kuma> Juano: did it
[01:59] <juano> kuma: then in the line i gave you , change /media/hda3 for /media/myhda3
[01:59] <juano> kuma: then do sudo mount -a
[01:59] <lun> Question: in kernel compiling, what is the difference between M & Y? module means it's just compressed version, not installed?
[01:59] <shwag> same thing....i rsync'd my ubuntu install to another computer. This computer is totally different hardware. Same result....eth0 doesnt work now.
[01:59] <LjL> mwalling: luckily these days ethernet cards go for as little as 6
[02:00] <chris1932> Hi Monika: it's 6.06 LTS. I'm embarrassed that I don't know how to tell which soundcard I have. It's on a Thinkpad T42. How can I check?
[02:00] <crimsun> chris1932: asoundconf list
[02:00] <shwag> but eth0 shows up in dmesg
[02:00] <mwalling> LjL: except my byweekly paycheck got pushed to the next billing cycle
[02:00] <LjL> mwalling: the chip of my realtek says RTL8139C 13211Q1, and i can positively say it worked fine in ubuntu
[02:00] <recon0> Does anybody know an IPS patcher for linux?
[02:00] <shwag> my eth0 is showing up in dmesg, but not in ifconfig. not sure what to do.
[02:00] <mwalling> so $15 is alot for the next 2 weeks
[02:01] <mwalling> LjL: thanks for all the help
[02:01] <kuma> Juano: the special dispositive /dev/myhda3 doesn't exist
[02:01] <juano> kuma: no no
[02:01] <chris1932> Monika: It gives me I82801DBICH4.
[02:01] <juano> kuma: dont change /dev/hda3
[02:01] <CraZy675> well I guess I'm going to re-install from the live cd and hope that works
[02:01] <Monika|K> Chris1932 depens on if you have KDE or Gnome, for KDE you can check that with kcontrol for Gnome I don't know
[02:01] <bitchslapper> shwag, nice name ... :) .. sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[02:01] <juano> kuma: the line should be
[02:01] <kuma> Juano: ooh, ok
[02:01] <juano> kuma: /dev/hda3 /media/myhda3 vfat gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0 0
[02:01] <LjL> mwalling: i really think you can find cheaper than $15... 6 would be like about $7, and usually these things are more expensive here than in the US
[02:02] <chris1932> Monika: I'm on Gnome. Does that output help?
[02:02] <enix> hello all, any body want to help a noob?...PM me...please and thank you
[02:02] <Monika|K> chris1932 I think I read about someone having the same problem as you on the forum
[02:02] <kuma> Juano: same error
[02:02] <shwag> bitchslapper: nice name.  Device not found.
[02:02] <Monika|K> have you searched on some ubuntu forums?
[02:02] <CraZy675> is it easy to upgrade from a 6.06 install to a 6.10 install using apt?
[02:02] <LjL> Ubotu, tell CraZy675 about upgrade | CraZy675, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:02] <juano> kuma: cat /etc/fstab again pls
[02:02] <CraZy675> sweet
[02:02] <LjL> besides the fact that it breaks sometimes if you have third-party repositories, and sometimes even if you don't... yes ;)
[02:02] <juano> kuma: and paste it in pastebin
[02:02] <bitchslapper> shwag, not sure then
[02:02] <LuvKhraft> !seen tittof
[02:02] <livingtm> Anyone ever see the ubuntu live CD fail to boot?
[02:02] <ubotu> tittof is on IRC right now!
[02:02] <HymnToLife> enix, why not ask your question here ? The more people will see it, the mre likely you'll be to get an answer
[02:02] <bitchslapper> enix, ask your question here
[02:02] <Monika|K> CraZy675 in theory yes, in practice it sometimes fails
[02:02] <chris1932> Yes, but I'm not sure which keywords to use. A lot of people can't get sound to work at all, but that's not what I'm looking for help with. What should I search for?
[02:02] <Judicata> chris1932: also check out www.thinkwiki.org
[02:02] <crimsun> chris1932: that driver is dmixed by default.
[02:02] <LuvKhraft> ?seen tittof
[02:03] <shwag> oh common...someone has got to have tried to image and machine from and existing ubuntu install before.
[02:03] <crimsun> chris1932: just don't use arts or esound
[02:03] <LjL> livingtm: yes, due to some quirks in my CD reader i think. trying again, and again, and again, finally got it to boot
[02:03] <Monika|K> livingtm yes there is a bug for Ubuntu Edgy Live CDs in combination with some ATI Radeon cards
[02:03] <LjL> it happens with just about any bootable linux CD here
[02:03] <kuma> Juano: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2103/
[02:03] <crimsun> chris1932: tell applications to use alsa by default
[02:03] <enix> is there a way to remove the panal from just one window, and leave it on the other 3
[02:03] <chris1932> Thanks Judicata and crimsun!
[02:03] <LjL> livingtm: but first of all you really should verify the CD i think
[02:03] <livingtm> Monika|K, I have an nvidia chipset, Pentium D processor
[02:03] <LjL> Ubotu, tell livingtm about md5sum | livingtm, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:03] <chris1932> Crimsun -- how do I change it?
[02:03] <Monika|K> LjL then it's more likely your CD drive is damaged
[02:03] <LjL> Monika|K: well what did i say
[02:03] <livingtm> LjL, these CD's have run before
[02:03] <CraZy675> ok i'll just download 6.10 dvd using bit torrent
[02:04] <crimsun> chris1932: the only thing you need to change is to disable esound and arts
[02:04] <aardfox> how do I make my gdesklets boot up with ubuntu, instead of having to run the gdesklets porgram every time i boot up?
[02:04] <Monika|K> LjL just the same ;)
[02:04] <LjL> livingtm: how does it "fail to boot" exactly anyway?
[02:04] <enix>  i want to make one window a full screen term, with option of color or transparent
[02:04] <livingtm> Ljl dumps right to busybox
[02:04] <juano> kuma: mmm... try this line:
[02:04] <livingtm> LjL, no othr diagnostics
[02:04] <libshh> hello everyone.
[02:04] <Judicata> aardfox: system - preferences - sessions - startup programs.
[02:04] <libshh> I got a segmentation fault in vim
[02:05] <libshh> using rxvt-unicode
[02:05] <LjL> livingtm: hm, that's weird. i'd expect it to lock up, more than that... that might sound more like it doesn't particularly like your hardware
[02:05] <Judicata> aardfox: add "gdesklets" to that.
[02:05] <chris1932> crimsun: how do I do that?
[02:05] <HymnToLife> enix, in KDE, Konsole can handle transparency quite well, don't know about GNOME
[02:05] <LjL> livingtm: still it's quite weird
[02:05] <libshh> anyone willing to reproduce?
[02:05] <juano> kuma: /dev/hda3       /media/myhda3   vfat    defaults,gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8     0       0
[02:05] <chris1932> crimsun: should I uncheck "Enable software sound mixing"?
[02:05] <juano> kuma: adding the defaults option
[02:05] <crimsun> chris1932: yes
[02:05] <livingtm> LjL, are there any diagnostics or anything that early on in the boot?
[02:05] <enix> well i have exactly what i want, with the exception of 2 panels being in the way
[02:05] <livingtm> it even fails when booting to "check CD for defects"
[02:06] <LjL> livingtm: you could try removing "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel command line, bets are off that you'll get some more messages
[02:06] <livingtm> LjL, its a LiveCd, how do i do that?
[02:06] <LjL> livingtm: i don't precisely remember (it doesn't use GRUB), but you can
[02:06] <chris1932> Anything else? Would I now be using ALSA?
[02:06] <qopi> !Flash
[02:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:06] <Flawless> Does ubuntu support "dist-downgrade"? I seem to remember reading about it
[02:06] <chris1932> (to crimsun)
[02:06] <juano> kuma: and after adding the line try sudo mount -a
[02:06] <shwag> my eth0  is showing up in dmesg, but  ifconfig -a  it does not exist. Ive never seen this before.
[02:06] <Monika|K> livingtm do you get to see the menu of the live-cd
[02:07] <crimsun> chris1932: you have to disable arts, I presume?
[02:07] <kuma> Juano: adding or replacing?
[02:07] <libshh> LjL: in the boot: prompt enter your custom prompt  (same as default without the quiet and splash)
[02:07] <LjL> livingtm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:07] <aardfox> judicata: thanks again man : )
[02:07] <Flawless> !dist-downgrade
[02:07] <LjL> or what libshh said
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-downgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <juano> kuma: /dev/hda3       /media/myhda3   vfat    defaults,gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8     0       0   ----> this is the whole line, replace your last line for this one
[02:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Flawless about downgrade | Flawless, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:07] <libshh> Guys anyone willing to reproduce a segfault in vim using rxvt-unicode?
[02:07] <threeonefour> who here knows anything about pure ftp
[02:07] <livingtm> LjL, just found the boot options...
[02:07] <juano> kuma: by your last i mean the hda3 line
[02:08] <juano> kuma: then sudo mount -a
[02:08] <livingtm> "Target file system doesnt have /sbin/init"
[02:08] <LjL> uh
[02:08] <kuma> Juano: same error
[02:08] <Flawless> LjL: thanks. if I'm ok with the risk, is there some sort of last resort? other than --reinstall install "all" ? :)
[02:08] <Monika|K> Flawless maybe that thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212526 helps you
[02:08] <livingtm> LjL, "unable to open /root/var/log"
[02:08] <LjL> livingtm: i *guess* it's got a corrupted initrd, though again, i'd expect the kernel to just fail booting...
[02:08] <kuma> Juano: should I run ChkDisk in Windows on that partition?
[02:09] <Flawless> Monika|K: thanks, will have a look
[02:09] <avalon_> Can suomeone help me get vmware player off my system? I installed it, then I wanted to upgrade to server. I marked it for complete removal in synaptic and applied it. But whenever I go to run the server install script, it stops saying it found a previous vmware installation.
[02:09] <LjL> Flawless: the one you mentioned will *not* work. and, no, i don't think
[02:09] <livingtm> LjL, I tried a whole load of ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu disks that have workedin the past
[02:09] <Monika|K> or a general google
[02:09] <avalon_> err... someone that is
[02:09] <juano> kuma: nah.. i dont think that would make a difference
[02:09] <chris1932> crimsun: how do I disable arts?
[02:09] <juano> kuma: mm lets see
[02:09] <juano> kuma: fdisk -l | grep "vfat"
[02:09] <Flawless> LjL: why not? libc abi breakage?
[02:09] <Monika|K> avalon_ you should probably have uninstalled it with apt-get --purge remove
[02:09] <kuma> Juano: I admire your patience
[02:09] <libshh> avalon_: apt-get install debfoster
[02:09] <enix> HymnToLife: anymore ideas?
[02:09] <jevangelo> dell demension e521's video doesnt work in ubuntu
[02:09] <Flawless> LjL: I can fix pretty much any problem
[02:10] <jevangelo> is there a workaround?
[02:10] <Monika|K> avalon_ or aptitude purge
[02:10] <juano> kuma: hehe np :) i like to make things work
[02:10] <Flawless> LjL: I was just wondering what the best way to go forward is
[02:10] <Monika|K> avalon_ this would have removed the configuration files
[02:10] <mnoir> Flawless: depending on what you want to preserve,  it is usually a much easier and shorter task to reinstall rather that brainiacing your way through a downgrade
[02:10] <crimsun> chris1932: use the kde control center
[02:10] <kuma> Juano: didn't returned nothing? should i add sudo?
[02:10] <Monika|K> avalon_ can you figure out where the configuration files are? can you delete them manually?
[02:10] <crimsun> chris1932: or kde system setting
[02:10] <kuma> Juano: didn't returned nothing, should i add sudo?
[02:10] <libshh> avalon_: run debfoster.  it will go through installed packages, ask each if you want to keep it or remove it.  this way if there is any other package left, you'll see it.
[02:10] <avalon_> Nope.. I can't see where they all are.. they're quite spread out
[02:10] <Flawless> mnoir: I know, I just want to try. a learning experience and all that :)
[02:10] <juano> kuma: fdisk -l
[02:10] <chris1932> crimsun: I'm in Gnome -- I don't see an option in my Preferences > Sound.
[02:10] <kuma> Juano: didn't return nothing with sudo either
[02:11] <jewbilee> whats the command to mount an NTFS?
[02:11] <LjL> livingtm: doesn't mean a thing if that particular CD drive isn't liking the disc. all my ubuntu discs were burned fine, but 70% or so of the times my drive comes up with a corrupted initrd, or variations on the theme. *if* the kernel manages to boot, *then* the rest of the installation works fine (no clue why, possibly because the 'runtime' driver and filesystem does some more error correction...) -  the only difference with your case is that i
[02:11] <LjL> never was dropped to busybox, but it just halted complaining about either the kernel image or the initrd
[02:11] <kuma> Juano: should i paste the results?
[02:11] <mnoir> Flawless: a learning experience for something that should not be done - ok - bon voyage :)
[02:11] <juano> kuma: yea
[02:11] <Flawless> mnoir: I'm pretty sure I'll be able to navigate around the errors, since I've been programming for 15 years now ;-)
[02:11] <shwag> does ubuntu hardcode the modules list it uses ?
[02:11] <crimsun> chris1932: what kde applications do you have installed that use arts?
[02:11] <Flawless> mnoir: Worst case, I reinstall
[02:11] <LjL> Flawless: well, one reason i can immediately think of is that config files won't be downgraded
[02:11] <Flawless> mnoir: I got nothing to lose
[02:11] <avalon_> debfoster doesn't see it
[02:11] <Flawless> LjL: yes
[02:12] <jewbilee> Whats the command to mount an NTFS harddrive?
[02:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jewbilee about ntfs | jewbilee, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:12] <Flawless> LjL: ok, let me put it another way: when will Kmail and Knode get fixed? ;-)
[02:12] <gaspipe1> hey people
[02:12] <chris1932> I'm not sure what sound program it uses, but the beeps from KOrganizer give me a lot of trouble.
[02:12] <LjL> Flawless: i didn't even know they were buggy
[02:12] <kuma> I think you found the error
[02:12] <kuma> Juano: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2104/
[02:12] <Meshezabeel> anyone know how I can move the Menus (Application, System, etc.) back to the left of the icons (firefox, mail, etc.), I middle-dragged the menu to the right, and now, though I can move it, it won't let me move it back to the left of the icons.
[02:12] <Flawless> LjL: Oh, in feisty, I mean ;)
[02:12] <mnoir> Flawless: yeah - i guess that is pretty impressive - i only have 25 years of dev/ops experience.  In all that time I have never seen a supported system downgrade so I guess you could say I have no experience with it :)
[02:12] <gaspipe1> i need some big help...anyone familiar with installing on a HD with xp pro on it?
[02:12] <Flawless> mnoir: nice :)
[02:12] <LjL> Flawless: ah. well, not a clue, but feisty sure is a quickly moving target
[02:13] <Flawless> mnoir: and that's exactly why I want to try :)
[02:13] <Flawless> LjL: you can say that again!
[02:13] <LjL> Flawless: i'll mention you can get feisty-specific help in #ubuntu+1, by the way
[02:13] <juano> kuma: hihi... its not hda3 its hda4 you want
[02:13] <Judicata> Meshezabeel: right click on the orange ubuntu thingy, make sure "lock to panel" is deselected, then right click on it again, and select "move"
[02:13] <kuma> kuma: I beg your pardon
[02:13] <Meshezabeel> Judicata, lock to panel is deselected
[02:13] <juano> kuma: go to the line and change every hda3 for hda4
[02:13] <Alpal> can someone help me with mounting windows partion(s)  I have 3 NTFS part's which I would like to access but following the directions in the help only changes the drive accessed. each change gives me a different part. I want to see them all any ideas. please..??
[02:14] <LjL> mnoir: get an OS that supports full filesystem versioning, and voila, you have seamless downgrading and rollback..
[02:14] <Flawless> mnoir: I'd be hard pressed to have 25 years of experience, since I'm 23 years old ;)
[02:14] <juano> kuma: then sudo mount -a
[02:14] <lonran> what kind of math software do u people use in linux? scilab? octave?
[02:14] <LjL> bc
[02:14] <kuma> Juano: should i also change every hda4 for hda3?
[02:14] <mnoir> LjL: thats more a backup restore, wouldn't you say :)
[02:14] <juano> kuma: wait
[02:14] <gaspipe1> i just need some help with the last step... preparing mount points
[02:14] <chris1932> Ionran: Mathematica & Macsyma
[02:14] <Judicata> Meshezabeel: then right click and move it. If you can't, that means you probably need to unlock whatever you're trying to move it over.. like if the icons are blocking it, make sure that they aren't locked.
[02:14] <gaspipe1> anyone?
[02:14] <juano> kuma: on the line i gave you
[02:15] <juano> kuma: change hda3 for hda4
[02:15] <LjL> mnoir: if it's not a totally stupid filesystem, then no, not really. a non-stupid filesystem will let you do things like *not* rolling back /home, while rolling back the rest, for instance
[02:15] <Meshezabeel> Judicata, I can move it, it just won't let me move it left of the icons
[02:15] <lonran> chris1932, are they open source?
[02:15] <kuma> Juano: should i change /media/myhda3 for /media/hda4?
[02:15] <LjL> mnoir: aside from that, how does the concept of a downgrade actually differ from that you said anyway?
[02:15] <chris1932> Macsyma is free. Mathematica you have to pay for.
[02:15] <juano> kuma: first do this:
[02:15] <gaspipe1> this ain't good
[02:15] <Alpal> can someone help me with mounting NTFS drive(s)
[02:16] <juano> kuma: sudo mkdir /media/myhda4
[02:16] <LjL> Ubotu, tell alpal about ntfs | alpal, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:16] <mnoir> ljl - true, but it is still restoration dack in time/state, where package manager downgrade is forwards to a lower release, if you know what i mean
[02:16] <chris1932> I meant Maxima, not Macsyma.
[02:16] <chris1932> oops
[02:16] <juano> kuma: then change in the line i gave you all hda3 for hda4
[02:16] <Monika|K> Alpal do you only want to read it or also write to it?
[02:16] <gaspipe1> >ljl u have a sec?
[02:16] <juano> kuma: your line will be like this:
[02:16] <Judicata> Meshezabeel: Right, that means the icons are probably locked to the panel. Right click on them, and deselect "lock to panel" for each icon.
[02:16] <jewbilee> Hey, I had my main harddrive on my laptop (hdc1) mounted under /media/Windows but not all of the sudden is says that it is "Unable to mount selected volume".  What do I do?
[02:16] <juano> kuma: /dev/hda4       /media/myhda4   vfat    gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8     0       0
[02:16] <Monika|K> jewbilee what changes did you make to your system?
[02:17] <Meshezabeel> Judicata, thanks for the help, will try it tomorrow when I'm there
[02:17] <LjL> gaspipe1: yes, but i'm not quite familiar with installing over XP - or installing in general really, since a few months have passed since i last did ;)
[02:17] <juano> kuma: after those steps, sudo mount -a
[02:17] <mnoir> LjL: most important - it is not tested and known to produce no subtle problems.  not that unix has no subtle problems though :)
[02:17] <gaspipe1> >ljl ok no prob...thanks
[02:17] <kuma> should i change the last line hda4 for hda3?
[02:17] <jewbilee> Monika|K: It was there about an hour ago, I logged out, went into Windows, did nothing, signed back into Ubuntu and it was gone from my desktop and keeps giving me this error
[02:17] <LjL> mnoir: right, but then the package system really has no means to downgrade while *not* wiping your customized config files, unless you build some strong AI into it =)
[02:18] <gaspipe1> anyone familiar with "prepare mount points"?
[02:18] <libshh> anyone want to help me here reprdocue a seg fault in vim on rxvt-unicode?
[02:18] <LjL> mnoir: no, most important - there is no such filesystem available
[02:18] <kuma> Juano: should i change the last line hda4 for hda3?
[02:18] <bitchslapper> later people ...
[02:18] <gaspipe1> >flannel are u there?
[02:18] <mzuverink> I use dyndns and want to run a mail server and a webserver.  how do I get my machine to recognize its fqdn as example.dyndns.org?
[02:18] <juano> kuma: oh.. no
[02:18] <Monika|K> jewbilee possibly the NTFS might be not in order ... go to Windows and do a Scandisk and then try again
[02:18] <LjL> mnoir: though there *is* a specification (for feisty or later, dunno) to put /etc under a revision control system
[02:18] <juano> kuma: mmm... its weird cause fdisk is listing your partition in hda4
[02:19] <mnoir> LjL: true.  too bad there is no true versioning fs - that would truly allow a reliable restoration of a point in time/state.  Provided of course you could identify the correct point :)
[02:19] <jewbilee> Monika|K: what do you mean not in order?
[02:19] <juano> kuma: leave hda4 dont change it
[02:19] <livingtm> LjL, is there maybe an issue with the bios with virus detection or memory protection or something?
[02:19] <Monika|K> there might be some mild damage to the file system
[02:19] <mnoir> LjL: that would be kinda nice
[02:19] <Monika|K> which can be repaired by scandisk
[02:19] <IntuitiveNipple> mzuverink: For mail servers, many other servers require you to have forward and reverse DNS entries that match, to prevent spammers, so be aware of that.
[02:19] <jewbilee> Monika|K: OK, ill be right back
[02:19] <ekb-2> anyone know if the kernel .config file that is in /boot is the sameone they use to create the kernel and initrd for the cdrom install kernel, which is located in <cdrom>/casper??
[02:19] <kuma> Juano: Ok, Pasting it just in case --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2105/
[02:20] <Alpal> Monika|K thanks I would like to at least read the drives.
[02:20] <enix> does anybody else have problems with conky double buffer
[02:20] <enix> mine flickers
[02:20] <LucianSolaris> anyone know of an easy php video content type site (like how phpbb is to forums as mkportal is to front pages as xyz is to video content site)?
[02:20] <gaspipe1> anyone familiar with dual boot installs?
[02:20] <juano> kuma: ok try sudo mount -a now
[02:20] <Monika|K> Alpa1 do you know what the partitions name is? E.g. is it /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 and so on?
[02:20] <kuma> juano:looks like its working
[02:20] <brianski> is there some way to tell evolution to set the from address on a reply to be the same as the delivered-to on the parent?
[02:20] <DARKGuy> Monika|K: Thanks for the clue on looking for sed, that program rocks! :)
[02:20] <Monika|K> Alpa1 do you just want to mount them once or do you want them always mounted when you boot
[02:21] <juano> kuma: and then try cd /media/myhda4
[02:21] <Monika|K> DARKGuy it absolutely does :-)
[02:21] <brianski> ie, i have qmail and have ski-* map to me, i want to respond as same. does that make sense?
[02:21] <juano> kuma: then   ls
[02:21] <kuma> juano: yes, it's listing all my files
[02:21] <brianski> (it works in thunderbird and mac os x mail.app, not sure how to do it here)
[02:21] <Monika|K> DARKGuy spending the time to work through the tutorial is worth it
[02:21] <juano> kuma: :) great
[02:21] <mzuverink> IntuitiveNipple, ok, how do I change my fqdn to example.dyndns.org, and still maintain my machine name as "penelope"?
[02:21] <IntuitiveNipple> LucianSolaris: do you means a sort-of YouTube package, or a video gallery?
[02:21] <gaspipe1> >Monika are u familiar with installing ubuntu?
[02:21] <kuma> juano: *_* you're my hero
[02:21] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 I am
[02:21] <juano> kuma: go into your comp and see if its in there
[02:21] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 what question do you have?
[02:21] <Alpal> yes /dev/hda2, /dev/hdb2, /dev/hdb5
[02:21] <DARKGuy> Monika|K: Absolutely, I'm gonna learn about it someday, since it's very useful ^^
[02:21] <gaspipe1> >monika do you have a sec?
[02:21] <LucianSolaris> intuitivenipple something turnkey and easy to add stuff to
[02:21] <juano> kuma: ;-)
[02:21] <kuma> juano: huh?
[02:22] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 I suggest you just go ahead and ask the question in the channel, someone will probably help you then, maybe me if I know the answer
[02:22] <juano> kuma: i mean, try to see if you can access it via GUI
[02:22] <kuma> juano: what sould I do with all the other empty dirs i got?
[02:22] <IntuitiveNipple> mzanfardino: it depends on how your mail server gets its FQDN - in some you can set it manually
[02:22] <gaspipe1> >monika ok
[02:22] <Alpal> Monika|K yes /dev/hda2, /dev/hdb2, /dev/hdb5
[02:22] <Monika|K> Alpa1 do you have directories /media/hda2 and so on?
[02:22] <kuma> juano: yes, i'm looking it through Konqueror
[02:22] <livingtm> LjL, It looks lik it failed when copying over to the ramdisk. the ramdisk doesnt seem to have been created.
[02:22] <livingtm> LjL, Im wondering if its memory protection or something
[02:22] <juano> kuma: oh.. if they are emptry just rm -r $emtydir
[02:22] <LjL> livingtm: i doubt that... but if you have virus protection enabled in the BIOS, you better disable it anyway, since it'll probably kick in when the installer tries to write to the MBR
[02:22] <IntuitiveNipple> LucianSolaris: Well, Gallery2 with the ffmpeg extensions can so it
[02:23] <LucianSolaris> just something that i can stick <embed> tags into for youtube videos
[02:23] <mnoir> kuma: if you really think they are empty, use rmdir to remove
[02:23] <IntuitiveNipple> LucianSolaris: It'll generate thumbnails from the videos, too
[02:23] <livingtm> LjL, the bios mentions "XD technology" and "VT Technology" ive disabled both and it didnt make a difference
[02:23] <IntuitiveNipple> LucianSolaris: oh, you mean not hosting your own videos?
[02:23] <juano> mnoir: yep, rm -r is the same, removes recursively dirs :P
[02:24] <LucianSolaris> no
[02:24] <kuma> Juano: no, i mean that i have now a hda3 and a myhda3 plus a myhda4 (the last one is the one working)
[02:24] <LjL> mnoir: there is the Wayback filesystem, which has quite a few feature (though it's not really oh-look-how-many-neat-features), but it's a FUSE thing, so it really couldn't conceivably be used for root, or for anything performance-sensitive
[02:24] <mnoir> juano: no it is not - it will not remove a non-empty dir
[02:24] <Alpal> Monika my fstab file details proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[02:24] <Alpal> /dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:24] <Alpal> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:24] <Alpal> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:24] <Alpal> /dev/hdb1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[02:24] <Alpal> /dev/hda5 /media/music ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[02:24] <IntuitiveNipple> LucianSolaris: You want something to generate the object/embed tags for YouTue videos?
[02:24] <Alpal> /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[02:24] <kupesoft> What's the best (in a shell script), given a program that outputs a bunch of lines to check if one of those lines matches a string EXACTLY (no substrings)
[02:24] <Alpal> /dev/hdb5 /media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[02:24] <juano> mnoir: oh no? wow.. how come it worked so many times here
[02:24] <livingtm> Ljl How about an option called "SW single processor"
[02:24] <juano> mnoir: rm -r removes a dir
[02:24] <Monika|K> Alpa1 use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting more than one or two lines
[02:25] <juano> mnoir: with or without files in it ;)
[02:25] <Byan> hey.. I accidently removed the battery thing from the power management from the panel..
[02:25] <Alpal> sorry newbie :)
[02:25] <Byan> how do I get it back?
[02:25] <LjL> livingtm: still, a good versioning filesystem would have a concept of snapshots (i.e. "remember this point in time for these directories, and call it X"), and if it were integrated with the system, the package manager would mark snapshot on upgrades and such. think of Windows' restore points, just... *really* implemented, not hacked in
[02:25] <mnoir> juano: suggest you read the manpage and prove it - rmdir does not remove non-empty dirs
[02:25] <LucianSolaris> no, i need a site that is organized and is very very simple to just cut and paste embed tags.  Think mkportal, but mkportal is too complex for this application
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> kupesoft: grep '^match_this_exactly$'  file.txt ?
[02:25] <LjL> mnoir: what i just said to livingtm, it was to you. sorry livingtm
[02:25] <juano> mnoir: what???? im saying rm -r removes a DIR! not rmdir, thats what you said!
[02:25] <Monika|K> Alpa1 wait a minute, I will check for the solution
[02:26] <IntuitiveNipple> LucianSolaris: no idea
[02:26] <LjL> livingtm, i can't see how the BIOS could ever be involved with any kind of memory protection really...
[02:26] <juano> mnoir: I SAID RM -R REMOVES A DIR WITH OR WITHOUT FILES
[02:26] <kupesoft> IntuitiveNipple: that string may or may not have grep special characters in it, though!
[02:26] <LjL> livingtm: and i haven't got a clue about that option, never seen it. i suppose it's a dual core thing?
[02:26] <mnoir> juano: i am suggesting that rmdir be used to remove empty dirs, in case they are not really empty.
[02:26] <Alpal> Monika thankyou
[02:26] <LjL> !caps | juano
[02:26] <ubotu> juano: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:26] <livingtm> LjL, sounds lik eit
[02:26] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[02:26] <Byan> anyone know?
[02:27] <NeoGeo64> Help me plz... When I'm playing flash videos or using ogle some apps cant access the sound card... xmms cant and gaim wont play its sounds
[02:27] <M3G4crux> is there a repository for libdvdcss??
[02:27] <Byan> you can't just add it back to the panel by right clicking
[02:27] <juano> mnoir: rm -r removes any dir, empty or not
[02:27] <Byan> it's not the same one..
[02:27] <M3G4crux> I cant play encrypted dvds
[02:27] <Monika|K> Alpal this is an example line from a wiki: /dev/hda1       /media/windows_c     ntfs    ro,user,auto,nls=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0
[02:27] <linuxgoober> I am wondering if it is possible to instal quickbooks 2006 on linux at my highschool?
[02:27] <gaspipe1> I have on my pc 2 HDD 1 with with xp (80 gig) and a 2nd 160 gig as a back up.... I wanted to install ubuntu and it got all messed up.. made 2 more partitions on the 80 gig... nothing worked with grub unless i boot from ubuntu install cd...anyway, I re-formated the e: and f: (both on 80 gig hdd, left c: with xp alone) now i wish to re-install ubuntu I want  "/" on e: which is sda2, and swap on f: witch is sda3.. when I got to prepare moun
[02:27] <Arrick> evening all
[02:27] <Monika|K> Alpa1 this makes it readable for all users
[02:27] <M3G4crux> I have all multiverse repositories that I know of
[02:27] <juano> kuma: yea... you can erase your empty dirs if they are empty cause you are not using them
[02:27] <kuma> juano: sorry to bother you again, but should i keep the lines of the hda3 and the myhda3?
[02:28] <Monika|K> oh wait Alpa1
[02:28] <kronus_> I jsut installed 6.06, and when trying to enter my username, every letter shows up 3-20 times for every keypress
[02:28] <Monika|K> it makes it readable for user 1000
[02:28] <Arrick> I have a ubuntu breezy install here, that I hit the wrong video size when I installed, and its running in a virtualPC, how do I reset the video in terminal?
[02:28] <kronus_> how do I fix this>
[02:28] <juano> kuma: leave your fstab as it is, its good like that
[02:28] <Monika|K> Alpa1 you need to put your user id there
[02:28] <gaspipe1> i know it's alot but anyhelp would be great
[02:28] <Monika|K> but the other options are right
[02:28] <kuma> juano: lol ok, can i change the name of myhda3 for another? :3
[02:28] <Alpal> Monika still this will only show one drive on my desktop and I would like to see all three drives
[02:29] <Monika|K> well put these options in for all three drives that are concerned
[02:29] <NeoGeo64> gaspipe1, did you nuke the drive or just format the drive and leave the two partitions
[02:29] <Monika|K> it was only a sample line
[02:29] <juano> kuma: lol, yes , youll have to change inside the line in fstab myhda3 for your other dir name
[02:29] <Alpal>  ok will try now and get back to yopu thanks for the help
[02:29] <gaspipe1> >neo nuke? i reformatted the 2 out of 3 partitions via xp
[02:29] <juano> kuma: and dont pay any attention to the last thing, the command rm -r removes any dir you want, empty or not
[02:30] <kuma> juano: and do i have to make another directoy?
[02:30] <juano> kuma: mkdir /media/anynameyouwant
[02:30] <NeoGeo64> gaspipe1, you need to run fdisk
[02:30] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 why do you want swap on F:? Do you realize that swap is only double the size of your RAM, e.g. 1 Gig if you have 512 MB RAM
[02:30] <juano> kuma: then in fstab the line should be /dev/hda4       /media/anynameyouwant   vfat    gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8     0       0
[02:31] <NeoGeo64> gaspipe1, do you know how to use the linux version of fdisk?
[02:31] <kuma> Juano: ok, thanks a lot :)
[02:31] <gaspipe1> >neo I have 1 gig of ram... e: would be 11.3 gigs and f: is like 500 mg
[02:31] <juano> mnoir: i suggest you be more sure before suggesting something that is wrong :)
[02:31] <NeoGeo64> you can manually create partitions and chose a number of file systems to use
[02:31] <gaspipe1> >monika srry that was for u
[02:31] <AngryElf> why would my onboard sound disappear out of lspci excluding BIOS changes?
[02:31] <NeoGeo64> and format in the fs of your choice
[02:31] <kuma> Juano: I'm off now, thanks again!
[02:31] <juano> kuma: dont forget to sudo mount -a after changing fstab
[02:31] <juano> kuma: anytime! good luck!
[02:31] <gaspipe1> i think i'm screwed
[02:32] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 are E: and F: separate hard disks or are they partitions on one hard disk?
[02:32] <kuma> Juano: ok, bye
[02:32] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 what did you mean bei "500 mg"?
[02:32] <NeoGeo64> I don't know if the Ubuntu installer has a verbose option for partitioning.
[02:32] <jewbilee> Monika|K: It didnt say anything was wrong...
[02:32] <livingtm> LJL I had an alternate install disk i just tried. its telling me it cant find the CDRom drive (after it boots from it) WIERD
[02:32] <gaspipe1> >monika 1 hdd 3 partitions c: (60gigs xp), e: 11 gigs (for ubuntu) and f: 500mg for swap
[02:33] <NeoGeo64> Does anyone know what FS Ubuntu 6.10 uses by default?
[02:33] <Monika|K> jewbilee but you still cannot mount it?
[02:33] <jewbilee> Monika|K: Link me to a pastebin, ill show you what it gives me
[02:33] <brianski> NeoGeo64, ext3
[02:33] <Monika|K> jewbilee check with sudo fdisk -l what partitions you have ... if mysteriously they have changed, and compare with your /etc/fstab
[02:33] <gaspipe1> >monika 1st time i installed ubuntu it made a logical drive that was that big...so i just deleted it and reformated with letter f:
[02:33] <NeoGeo64> brianski, why not ext4? it just came out
[02:33] <Monika|K> there is a pastebin in the topic http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:34] <brianski> NeoGeo64, uh, you just answered your own quesgtion
[02:34] <jewbilee> Monika: its still /dev/hdc1
[02:34] <mnoir> NeoGeo64: question and answer in same sentence :)
[02:34] <NeoGeo64> no i mean it just came out
[02:34] <LjL> livingtm: hmm so putting the two together it would seem like, *after* running the initrd stuff, it tries to locate the actual root filesystem, but gets it wrong. perhaps try disconnecting some drives you don't need if any ;-) or, dunno, put an explicit "root=/dev/whatever" option as a kernel parameter?
[02:34] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 that doesn't make much sense, F: is what Windows calls it
[02:34] <NeoGeo64> they said its stable
[02:34] <brianski> NeoGeo64, are you being serious?
[02:34] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 are you using the Live-CD or the Alternate CD?
[02:34] <NeoGeo64> and its been added to the kernel
[02:34] <NeoGeo64> yes
[02:34] <brianski> if you want the bleeding edge, run another distro
[02:34] <NeoGeo64> i read it on slashdot
[02:34] <gaspipe1> >monika would it be easier to try to get back into windows... and delete e: and f: and make that HDD back to an 80 gig?
[02:34] <threeonefour> how do i set a global variable
[02:34] <daniel007> can someone help me setup my printer to my router's printer port?  3 days so far with no success
[02:34] <gaspipe1> >monika live
[02:34] <Monika|K> gaspipe no it doesn't matter
[02:34] <brianski> NeoGeo64, first, how would a system that was released in october default to a filesystem that was released today
[02:35] <Monika|K> jewbilee does the /etc/fstab match?
[02:35] <brianski> NeoGeo64, second, why would you want to use that format until it's been battle tested?
[02:35] <kmu> Does any one know if Ubuntu server 6.10 has anything like Debian's hotplug module?
[02:35] <NeoGeo64> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[02:35] <Monika|K> jewbilee is /etc/fstab using UUIDs? I don't think these can change ... but maybe put /dev/hdc1 there?
[02:35] <jewbilee> Monika: /dev/hdc1       /media/Windows ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:35] <jewbilee> thats what it says
[02:35] <brianski> NeoGeo64, yes, and?
[02:35] <kronus_> how do I set ip/gateway/netmask via command line?
[02:35] <NeoGeo64> u asked if i was joking
[02:35] <NeoGeo64> so i gave a link
[02:36] <brianski> hot damn
[02:36] <Monika|K> jewbilee everything looks alright .. I would have suspected a disk damage, but as scandisk runs ok
[02:36] <Arrick> !fixres
[02:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:36] <brianski> i meant are you joking that a beta filesystem would be made the default on an os that was released before it was even announced
[02:36] <Monika|K> jewbilee sorry I don't konw what else to try
[02:36] <brianski> but i guess that was lost on you.
[02:36] <jewbilee> the only thing scandisk said was unallocated space marked as allocated
[02:36] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 on the live CD have you used gParted? Could you deal with that?
[02:36] <NeoGeo64> brianski, thats not an excuse
[02:37] <jewbilee> Monika: if I do sudo umount /dev/hdc1, it says that it isnt even mount
[02:37] <threeonefour> how do i set a global variable   eg. $home is like typing   /home/user
[02:37] <gaspipe1> >monika I haven't done that
[02:37] <Monika|K> jewbilee of course it isn't as you get the error message that it can't be mounted
[02:37] <gaspipe1> >monika should i try it?
[02:37] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 yes
[02:37] <jewbilee> but fstab says it is..
[02:37] <Monika|K> gaspipe I suggest about 10 to 20 Gig for / about 2 Gig for swap and the rest for /home
[02:37] <gaspipe1> >monika can u walk me through it...srry but i haven't read anything on the net on that
[02:37] <daniel007> can someone help me setup my printer to my router's printer port?  (ubuntu 6.10/HP k60/SMC router with usb printer port) 3 days so far with no success
[02:38] <NeoGeo64> ubuntu sucks because it wont load a driver for my ISA video card
[02:38] <Monika|K> gaspipe1 it's pretty intuitive to use ... and there is probably instructions in the wiki
[02:38] <laz0r> threeonefour, there is already a builtin variable for your homedir, its the ~
[02:38] <gaspipe1> >monika ok cool....thanks
[02:38] <grndslm> Can anybody help me figure out my wireless won't work after I resume from hibernation??
[02:38] <laz0r> threeonefour, but if you wanna set env variables, you can do this with the command export
[02:39] <jewbilee> Monika: can you link me to a pastebin?
[02:39] <threeonefour> neogeo64, dude at least get a pci vid card isa is almost extenct
[02:39] <Monika|K> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:39] <Gabby_Hayes> NeoGeo64:  .. pick a vesa  generic driver
[02:39] <shwag> you guys are all not smart people. not a single person mentioned /etc/iftab.  Thanks for nothing!
[02:40] <livingtm> LjL, its an IDE DVD RW / Lightscribe
[02:40] <livingtm> LjL, Man, i guess the kernel doesnt recognize it.
[02:40] <jewbilee> Monika: this is what happens when I try to mount: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2108/
[02:40] <threeonefour> laz0r, i tryied to man export but no man pages were found
[02:40] <riotkittie> shwag: you're welcome
[02:41] <NeoGeo64> I had to upgrade to DSL just to get online with Ubuntu.  It (Ubuntu) didn't support my ISA softmodem.
[02:41] <threeonefour> laz0r, can u give me a eg.
[02:41] <steelb> what are some good linux game torrent sites?
[02:41] <laz0r> threeonefour, its a bash function, not a command, i think
[02:41] <ElementalBelief> hows it going guys
[02:41] <laz0r> threeonefour, export FOO="BAR"
[02:42] <facugaich> Do you recommend me to upgrado from Dapper to Edgy?
[02:42] <mnoir> threeonefour: to read about export, man bash
[02:42] <laz0r> threeonefour, you should find more detailed information in man bash
[02:42] <threeonefour> k
[02:43] <ElementalBelief> question, anyone know how to edit menu items so that they can show up in the Main Menu?
[02:43] <daniel007> What's LPD/LPR?  And should I be using this to setup a network printer?
[02:43] <mnoir> facugaich: only if there is something you need that 6.06 does not support and 6.10 does
[02:43] <Flannel> ElementalBelief: alacarte is a menu editor
[02:43] <shwag> facugaich: probably edgy
[02:43] <jewbilee> Monika: anything?
[02:43] <Monika|K> a moment
[02:44] <ElementalBelief> been using that, but it doesn't work, can't click to enable the items, only works when i log in as root
[02:44] <jewbilee> it was working fine earlier..
[02:44] <Amaranth> ElementalBelief: System->Preferences->Menu Layout
[02:44] <grndslm> Can anybody help me figure out my wireless won't work after I resume from hibernation??
[02:44] <facugaich> mnoir: well, I can't install ATI open source drivers in Dapper...
[02:44] <mnoir> facugaich: if you can in 6.10 then that is a reason to upgrade
[02:44] <Amaranth> ElementalBelief: that's all there is
[02:44] <Monika|K> jewbilee you can't mount by simply copying the line from the fstab
[02:44] <Amaranth> ElementalBelief: don't use it as root, btw
[02:45] <livingtm> LjL, are there freggin DVD drives without drivers???? i didnt think it was that new of a technology
[02:45] <Monika|K> jewbilee all the things ntfs and defaults, nls and so on have be removed
[02:45] <jewbilee> Monika|K: so whats the command I want?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2108/
[02:45] <jewbilee> ignore the link
[02:45] <jewbilee> accidently pasted
[02:45] <ElementalBelief> used it once to find out if it was a privilage thing, and i beleive it is, since it doesnt let me do anything with alacarte.
[02:45] <Monika|K> jewbilee try just sudo mount /dev/hdc1 - the fstab tells it where to mount it
[02:46] <facugaich> mnoir, shwag: also, when I upgraded from Breezy I found Dapper to be more stable, less buggy etc. Will the same thing happer from Dapper to Edgy?
[02:46] <jewbilee> alright, i did sudo mount /dev/hdc1, so now what?
[02:46] <Monika|K> facugaich there are some people that complain about Edgy being buggy, but my system runs much better with Edgy and so I have heard from others
[02:46] <Monika|K> jewbilee did it give an error message?
[02:46] <jewbilee> No
[02:46] <jewbilee> just went down to the next line
[02:46] <Monika|K> then check /media/Windows
[02:47] <mnoir> facugaich: in my opinion, no - 6.10 is not very mature - i believe 6.06 to be the stablest right now
[02:47] <Mazin> Why does my nVidia kernel module disappear after every reboot?
[02:47] <jewbilee> Monika: I love you
[02:47] <jewbilee> marry me
[02:47] <Monika|K> hehe
[02:47] <jewbilee> lol
[02:47] <Monika|K> nope, can't, I am already engaged
[02:47] <ElementalBelief> Amaranth: thanks anyway
[02:47] <jewbilee> lucky you
[02:47] <jewbilee> hahah
[02:47] <jewbilee> thanks a lot
[02:47] <jewbilee> really appreciate it
[02:47] <Monika|K> but jewbilee we didn't solve the actual problem, it should automatically be mounted at startup according to your fstab
[02:48] <Monika|K> and I have now idea why it's not working
[02:48] <livingtm> LjL, Nope wasnt the drive. just popped an old CD drive in and got the same problem
[02:48] <Grok_> why would IE installed on a vmware winXP resolve a website address faster than firefox in my native ubuntu?
[02:48] <Monika|K> if you don't mind mounting it manually - ok
[02:48] <{bad_girl}> hello
[02:48] <jewbilee> so it wont be remount when i log back in?
[02:48] <Monika|K> no you will have to do that again most likely
[02:48] <livingtm> This is getting stupid. i cant believe the CD wont boot
[02:49] <jewbilee> let me go try
[02:49] <jewbilee> ill be right back
[02:50] <tomtemple> I'm in the process of installing Edgy 6.10 server, but the installer isn't detecting my RAID setup.
[02:50] <jewbilee> Monika: i just did a cntrl + alt + backspace and its still mounted
[02:50] <MaddMartigan> quick question for someone
[02:50] <tomtemple> I have the intel embedded controller
[02:51] <MaddMartigan> how do I change the volume label for a .iso file?
[02:51] <Monika|K> jewbilee Ctrl+Alt+Backspace only restarts your X server
[02:51] <tomtemple> Is it possible to use that controller, or do I have to set up software control?
[02:51] <jewbilee> so i need to reboot ubuntu?
[02:51] <daniel007> can someone help me setup my printer to my router's printer port?  (ubuntu 6.10/HP k60/SMC router with usb printer port) 3 days so far with no success
[02:51] <Monika|K> try a reboot
[02:51] <jewbilee> ok
[02:51] <jewbilee> brb
[02:51] <Monika|K> livingtm what boot parameters have you tried so far?
[02:51] <NeoGeo64> when is the next ubuntu coming out
[02:51] <tomtemple> I have a second machine with a PERC integrated controlled which detected just fine
[02:51] <MaddMartigan> how do I change the volume label for a .iso file?
[02:52] <Monika|K> 7.04 NeoGeo64
[02:52] <beetm> april '07
[02:52] <Monika|K> i.e. in April
[02:52] <blueprints88888> anyone here familiar with aircrack???
[02:52] <NeoGeo64> ok
[02:52] <Monika|K> blueprints88888 don't ask a meta question, ask your question right away, if someone can help, they probably will
[02:52] <livingtm> Monika|K, just the defaults, minus the quiet and splash
[02:52] <MaddMartigan> how do I change the volume label for a .iso file?
[02:52] <mnoir> NeoGeo64: there is a whole discussion group for 7.04 - #ubuntu+1
[02:52] <blueprints88888> oh ok
[02:53] <livingtm> Monika|K, Damn Small Linux (knoppix base) failed as well with "Cant find KNOPPIX filesystem"
[02:53] <Monika|K> livingtm did you get any error messages after doing that?
[02:53] <Byan> someone give me a name a free 3d game
[02:53] <Byan> please
[02:53] <Rynoo> Question. I'm trying to access a Windows Network with Ubuntu, I've been able to access the same Windows network before, but now I'm getting "Sorry, Couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: mshome". Any ideas why its doing this?
[02:54] <MaddMartigan> how do I change the volume label for a .iso file?
[02:54] <blueprints88888> my question is aobut aireplay and module or another program used with aircrack, its supposed to get you 30k packets in liek 10 minutes, but when i use it it doesnt seem to get that much at all,but it does show improvement,i was wondering if there was a solid way of getting the 30k packets if not more
[02:54] <jewbilee> monika: still mounted
[02:54] <Monika|K> livingtm boot parameters that have been suggested for such problems are: noapic, noagp, noapm, nolapic, pci=noacpi, acpi=off, vga=..., ht=on, pci=bios, usb=bios, fb=false
[02:55] <Monika|K> I think best start with pci=noacpi ... at least in the forums this helps many people
[02:55] <jewbilee> how odd...
[02:55] <jewbilee> its working fine Monika
[02:55] <Monika|K> jewbilee okay then it was somehow fixed by the one time manual mount :-)
[02:55] <livingtm> Monika|K, Yes, that it cant find the ramfs
[02:55] <Rynoo> Question. I'm trying to access a Windows Network with Ubuntu, I've been able to access the same Windows network before, but now I'm getting "Sorry, Couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: mshome". Any ideas why its doing this?
[02:55] <Monika|K> no idea what caused it
[02:55] <jewbilee> Monika: thanks a lot
[02:55] <daniel007> can someone please help me setup my printer to my router's printer port?  (ubuntu 6.10/HP k60/SMC router with usb printer port) 3 days so far with no success, really need your help
[02:55] <Monika|K> livingtm did the self-check of the CD go ok?
[02:56] <livingtm> Monika|K, No i get the same problem
[02:56] <kitche> MaddMartigan: you can't unless you rebuild it
[02:56] <MaddMartigan> ok....fair enough......
[02:56] <livingtm> Monika|K, It fails copying over to the ramfs (so it seems) and it drops to busybox
[02:56] <Monika|K> hm
[02:56] <MaddMartigan> gnomebaker to rebuild it?
[02:56] <Monika|K> CD drive damaged?
[02:56] <jewbilee> How do I make GAIM start up on login to Ubuntu?
[02:56] <livingtm> Monika|K, its brand new, and i tried another one with the same results
[02:56] <blueprints88888> another question.when i go to system> prefrecnces>sessions> and start up programs and add firestarter.it gives me an error message saying it cant start because im not root or i dont have priveleges,how would i fix that?
[02:56] <Monika|K> jewbilee you just leave it running when you quit
[02:56] <MaddMartigan> I can mount the existing .iso file and copy the data off......mkisofs to add that data back to a .iso file?
[02:57] <jewbilee> Monika: I dont think ive ever quit it
[02:57] <jewbilee> lol
[02:57] <jewbilee> still doesnt start up
[02:57] <Monika|K> jewbilee on my system it always runs when I log in if it ran when I logged out
[02:57] <kitche> MaddMartigan: one way yes
[02:57] <MaddMartigan> any other way that's easier?
[02:57] <jewbilee> is there another way?
[02:57] <Monika|K> jewbilee I am pretty sure there is a page in the wiki that says how to set up programs to run at startup
[02:57] <daniel007> Monika:  I never shutdown GAIM either and I ALWAYS have to restart it when ubuntu bots up
[02:58] <kitche> MaddMartigan: use a cd burning program
[02:58] <Monika|K> hm, maybe only KDE does this by default
[02:58] <MaddMartigan> ok, thanks
[02:58] <Monika|K> there is probably a Gnome setting to store the session
[02:58] <Mazin> daniel007: look in System > Settings > Session manager or something like that
[02:59] <Monika|K> livingtm maybe do a RAM check, maybe that is damaged
[02:59] <blueprints88888> i guess ubuntu is pretty big eh?
[02:59] <Mazin> there should be an option to automatically save session on shutdown
[02:59] <mnoir> blueprints88888: bigger'n both of us....
[03:00] <Monika|K> blueprints88888 are you using Gnome or KDE?
[03:00] <livingtm> Monika|K, I didn let the mem test run very long
[03:00] <livingtm> Monika|K, but it seemed ok
[03:00] <Monika|K> maybe you should have it complete
[03:00] <Monika|K> because I think it must be some hardware damage
[03:00] <Monika|K> as some other CDs don't run either
[03:00] <Monika|K> so it can't be an Ubuntu-bug
[03:00] <jewbilee> Go it working monika, had to manually add it to the start up programs list
[03:01] <daniel007> Mazin:  thanks for the tip  : )  I'll try it out and verify on the next boot
[03:01] <blueprints88888> gnome
[03:01] <blueprints88888> ive always used DSL
[03:01] <Monika|K> jewbilee can you tell blueprints88888 how you did that?
[03:01] <jewbilee> yea
[03:01] <Monika|K> he gets an error message
[03:01] <Monika|K> and I don't have Gnome to check
[03:01] <blueprints88888> yes please tell
[03:01] <livingtm> Monika|K, It always fails the same way.. very strange.
[03:01] <jewbilee> GO to System -> Preference -> Sessions
[03:01] <jewbilee> Then Startup Programs
[03:01] <jewbilee> Click add
[03:01] <jewbilee> type "gaim"
[03:01] <jewbilee> and your done
[03:02] <blueprints88888> i did that
[03:02] <ciscosurfer> Hello!
[03:02] <blueprints88888> for firestarter
[03:02] <Monika|K> he gets an error message that he has to be root
[03:02] <Monika|K> hello ciscosurfer
[03:02] <ciscosurfer> Anyone seen this yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279
[03:02] <jewbilee> thats odd..
[03:02] <blueprints88888> ya i do
[03:02] <jewbilee> you should need root to edit that
[03:02] <blueprints88888> hmm
[03:02] <daniel007> can someone please help me setup my printer to my router's printer port?  (ubuntu 6.10/HP k60/SMC router with usb printer port) 3 days so far with no success, really need your help
[03:03] <blueprints88888> how would i give this sscreename root privlege
[03:03] <jewbilee> System -> Administration -> Users and Groups, select the user
[03:03] <jewbilee> go to edit
[03:03] <jewbilee> under one of the tabs
[03:03] <ugarit> has anyone had this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2111/ ?
[03:03] <blueprints88888> ok thanks
[03:03] <jewbilee> click on "Allow administrative abilities" or something
[03:04] <ubuntu> hey someone here
[03:04] <Hansin321> Ok, found out the scoop on 1.5 (which some of you may already know): "Well, beryl 0.2.0-beta1 (formerly known as 0.1.5) is going to be out shortly. We know its going to be a bit buggy, but we hope by releasing a beta, we can get a cleaner rc out without sacrificing features, because with a beta we will get more than just in-house/some svn testing."
[03:04] <ubuntu> !ubotu
[03:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:04] <ubuntu> Hansin321 are you programmer
[03:05] <blueprints88888> hmm...i beleive i am root withthis name
[03:05] <Monika|K> it's 3 am, I am going to bed, good night everybody and may you find the help you are seeking
[03:05] <daniel007> What's LPD/LPR?  And should I be using this to setup a network printer?
[03:06] <xivulon> hi does anybody know any good guide to package a custom initrd?
[03:06] <Hansin321> ubuntu: no
[03:06] <Gabby_Hayes> ok, got my new installed Ubuntu 6.10 edgy running ... just used the recovery mode,  thanks
[03:06] <ubuntu> Hansin321 ok
[03:06] <brown_> its the line printer daemon and yes
[03:06] <Chez> i recently installed ubuntu 6.06 on my second hard drive and now windows 2000 takes teice as long to boot up. All the programs work just fine though
[03:06] <blueprints88888> is upgrading to a newer version of ubuntu always better?
[03:07] <jewbilee> No
[03:07] <jewbilee> if it aint broke, dont fix it ;)
[03:07] <blueprints88888> :)
[03:07] <jewbilee> are you on Dapper?
[03:07] <irish_flu> if there's a new feature you want, go for it
[03:07] <blueprints88888> ya i am:)
[03:07] <jewbilee> dapper is Long Term Support...
[03:07] <blueprints88888> only way to get my internet to work
[03:07] <chiarato> I had to reinstall ubuntu but now I can't get my wireless internet working please help thanks
[03:07] <jewbilee> so techincally it should last longer
[03:08] <blueprints88888> ya it does have alot fo support
[03:08] <chiarato> I've tried everything on the help.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <ciscosurfer> So, no one has seen this?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279
[03:08] <blueprints88888> chiarato has it worked before?
[03:09] <LoginError> hey guys, is there a way to remap a known key on your keyboard to another known key under Ubuntu?
[03:09] <chiarato> yes it makes no sence?
[03:09] <irish_flu> Cisco, Do you mean "have I seen the thread?" or "have I seen the new installer"?
[03:09] <Chez> [10:45:00 AM]  Matthew Wardrop says: You don't even have a microphone
[03:09] <Chez> [10:45:08 AM]  Ben Cherian says: i know
[03:09] <Milos_SD> Q: How can I install GIGABYTE  DVB-T Hybrid TV Card GT-PTV-TAF-RH with Philips chipset on Ubuntu Dapper?
[03:09] <Chez> [10:45:13 AM]  Ben Cherian says: i wanted to talk to u
[03:09] <facugaich> How do I report a bug?
[03:09] <blueprints88888> did you have to configure it before,or did it do it automatiaclly
[03:10] <ciscosurfer> irish_flu: either...I'm having some trouble with it...
[03:10] <irish_flu> sorry cisco, I have seen the thread but never used the installer.  I'm sure you know more about it than I do
[03:10] <ciscosurfer> irish_flu: ok, thanks anyways
[03:10] <LoginError> my right ALT key shows up as "<Mod2>ISO_Level3_Shift" and i want to find a way to make it "ALT" again
[03:10] <jrib> !bugs | facugaich
[03:10] <ubotu> facugaich: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:11] <blueprints88888> chiarato what kind of internet you use.wireless or wired
[03:11] <chiarato> i chose wireless then I put the ssid the acii password and automatic dhcp but its not working!
[03:11] <tobyr> Hi guys how do I use xscreensaver instead of the GNOME one?
[03:11] <chiarato> syslink wireless
[03:11] <tobyr> I can't find 'Settings' in the GNOME oen
[03:11] <facugaich> jrib, I tried that, but the bug is in GNOME's Worskpace Switcher
[03:12] <ubuntu> does someone know how to install 3d cube
[03:12] <blueprints88888> chiarato what does    ifconfig    tell you
[03:12] <blueprints88888> in a console window
[03:13] <jrib> facugaich: why does that prevent you from filing a bug?
[03:13] <daniel007> brown_:  I am trying to connect my printer to my router with built-in usb printer port using with lpd/lpr, but no luck in actually getting a printout.  any ideas?
[03:13] <chiarato> give me one sec let me see!
[03:13] <blueprints88888> ok\
[03:13] <facugaich> jrib, Oh, I thought that was for the Ubuntu OS only, thank you
[03:14] <jrib> facugaich: you can file a bug on any package in ubuntu :)
[03:14] <Milos_SD> Q: How can I install GIGABYTE  DVB-T Hybrid TV Card GT-PTV-TAF-RH with Philips chipset on Ubuntu Dapper?
[03:15] <Gabby_Hayes> daniel007:  .. are you using the CUPS installation method?
[03:15] <daniel007> Gabby:  yes.
[03:15] <mag_> Can you help me with the installation ? I got Decompressing linux .. done and booting the kernel--- and after the computer didn't anything
[03:15] <tobyr> Hi guys how do I use xscreensaver instead of the GNOME one?
[03:15] <tobyr> im stuck lol
[03:16] <Gabby_Hayes> daniel007:  .. is the printer directly connected to the Ubuntu computer?
[03:16] <mag_> Can you help me with the installation ? I got Decompressing linux .. done and booting the kernel--- and after the computer didn't anything
[03:16] <daniel007> Gabby:  No, it's connected to my router through the usb printer port
[03:17] <mag_> Can you help me with the installation ? I got Decompressing linux .. done and booting the kernel--- and after the computer didn't anything
[03:17] <Gabby_Hayes> are you trying to use it as a network printer?
[03:17] <JamesM> hello all
[03:17] <LoginError> do you guys know any way to permanently remap one key on your keyboard to another?
[03:17] <bruenig> !hi | JamesM
[03:17] <ubotu> JamesM: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:18] <mag_> Can you help me with the installation ? I got Decompressing linux .. done and booting the kernel--- and after the computer didn't anything
[03:19] <bruenig> mag_, did you check the md5 of the iso you burned?
[03:19] <daniel007> Gabby: yes, I would like my other machines (windows; I'm new to linux and trying ubuntu) to be able to access it as well
[03:19] <Gabby_Hayes> daniel007:  are you trying to use it as a network printer?
[03:19] <marshall>  does anybody have a quod libet 0.24 edgy deb?
[03:19] <JamesM> I am currently running ubuntu in vmware ... and want to have an option in grub to boot from a USB stick... vmware see's my USB stick fine.. is there a way to find out what line to add to grub.. i.e. root (hd1,0) ?
[03:19] <makuseru> what are some programs for recording audio in ubuntu?
[03:19] <LoginError> audacity is pretty good
[03:19] <JamesM> audacity
[03:19] <Gabby_Hayes> daniel007:  .. you may have to directly connect that type  (USB) to a microsoft box, and set it up to be shared  :-(
[03:19] <ubuntu> !audacity
[03:19] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[03:20] <irish_flu> makuseru - audacity is cool (and cross-platform)
[03:20] <ubuntu> but that is audio editor
[03:20] <LoginError> it records too
[03:20] <bruenig> !sound-recorder
[03:20] <makuseru> im looking for an alternivite to it
[03:20] <ubotu> sound-recorder: Direct-to-disk recording and play-back programs.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.06-7 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB
[03:20] <makuseru> i dont like it
[03:20] <ubuntu> and why the bot don't say that he record.
[03:20] <D7k> can you easily change your hostname after installation?
[03:20] <bruenig> ubuntu, the bot only reports back on the description given in the package
[03:20] <mag_> bruenig: mm no. just I downloaded ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso... in the pc that I downloaded the iso work's fine but in the server no
[03:20] <shammy> anyone using a linksys WUSB54Gv4 sucessfully? ubuntu recognizes the connection but when i try to activate it, it crashes
[03:20] <irish_flu> :p
[03:21] <ubuntu> bruenig and why this programer didn't put the record too.
[03:21] <daniel007> Gabby:  :(  is it a driver issue?
[03:21] <mag_> bruenig: I don't know what to do !
[03:21] <Gabby_Hayes> yes, partly
[03:21] <Flannel> mag_: You verified the CD?
[03:21] <tomtemple> Question: Has anyone been able to get a motherboard RAID controller to work? thanks
[03:21] <daniel007> partly?
[03:21] <IntuitiveNipple> tomtemple: Yes
[03:22] <tomtemple> IN:which? Intel?
[03:22] <bruenig> mag_, yeah I don't know much about install problems except check the iso, make sure it isn't bad burn and if all else fails go to alternative, but those bases seem to be covered, stupid question, the computer you are installing on I would hope is amd64
[03:22] <ubuntu> adn another questin maybe i will buy sata HDD is Ubuntu recongize it.
[03:22] <mag_> bruenig: yes, in the other pc I did the test Cd and all work's perfect !
[03:22] <IntuitiveNipple> tomtemple: what controller are you using? which RAID drivers (dmraid or md) ?
[03:22] <mag_> bruenig: yes I have a AMD 64 Opteron
[03:23] <Ana> howtime.gaiaonline.com
[03:24] <mag_> bruenig:  I think that is not the cd device because 3 weeks ago I installed fedora and all work's fine on the installation
[03:24] <tomtemple> IN: I have the Intel embedded chipset, and the bios thinks it's great, but then the installer just shows 4 disks
[03:24] <tomtemple> IN: I was going to try it with MD, but I couldn't get RAID 10
[03:24] <IntuitiveNipple> tomtemple: You'll need to tell us the chipset model
[03:25] <cellofellow> I have a somewhat wild-haired question. Can I use dd to copy to and from the MBR of a hard drive?
[03:25] <tomtemple> IN: let me see
[03:25] <cellofellow> if so, how?
[03:26] <leafw> any ideas on why should java apps fail to raise windows to front when using metacity?
[03:26] <leafw> is this a known bug?
[03:26] <xtknight> cellofellow: yes.  first 440 bytes if I recall.  may want to verify that with google.  dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=440 count=1    that will copy mbr from hda to hdb
[03:26] <matiu> I upgraded to edgy, now I have no ACPI and no sound :(
[03:26] <JamesM> I am currently running ubuntu in vmware ... and want to have an option in grub to boot from a USB stick... vmware see's my USB stick fine.. is there a way to find out what line to add to grub.. i.e. root (hd1,0) ?
[03:27] <cellofellow> xtknight: ok. I was wondering how to make a backup of the Windows bootloader for a computer I want to temporarily make a linux computer.
[03:27] <chiarato> blueprints88888: dude i can't get it working it on networking tools in place of my wireless network card it says unknow
[03:27] <tomtemple> IN: the motherboard is SUPERMICRO X7DVL-E if that tells you anything
[03:27] <tomtemple> IN: I'm still looking
[03:27] <Gabby_Hayes> daniel007:  .. do you know if you have the usbutils package installed?
[03:27] <IntuitiveNipple> tomtemple: Are you running Ubuntu and Gnome desktop in it right now?
[03:28] <xtknight> cellofellow: well copy the first 440 bytes of ur current mbr to a floppy and copy it back after u want to get rid of linux
[03:28] <daniel007> Gabby_Hayes: no idea?  is there a command I can enter in the terminal?
[03:28] <IntuitiveNipple> tomtemple: If so, go into Device Manager and you can discover the chipset (System > Administration > Device Manager)
[03:28] <cellofellow> xtknight: ok then
[03:28] <tomtemple> IN: I have no OS on it
[03:29] <xtknight> cellofellow: you can also use fixmbr.  just make sure to install grub on the master boot record and not the boot record of partition 1...master boot record encompasses the whole HD.
[03:29] <tomtemple> IN: Intel6321ESB
[03:29] <xtknight> cellofellow: fixmbr is a XP recovery console tool to restore the xp master boot rec
[03:29] <Gabby_Hayes> xtknight:  .. iirc,  the MBR takes up 512 bytes,  but not all of it is used  (padding)
[03:29] <thug> how do i restart x ?
[03:29] <xtknight> Gabby_Hayes: first 440 are boot code, rest is partition table
[03:29] <shadowhywind> anyone around that might be able to help me with a small ssh behind a router issue
[03:29] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs .. has been some time since I had to know that in DOS
[03:29] <foutrelis> Hi. Windows Vista fucked up my boot sector (and win xp's boot files) and now I cannot boot to either windows or ubuntu. Running on a live CD, could I install grub from here?
[03:30] <cellofellow> xtknight: some googling says 512 bytes
[03:30] <GionnyBoss> I would like to use Galeon browser instead of Firefox, but... Java Plugin doesn't work with Galeon (but works with Firefox!) and I don't know how to unistall Totem plugin (Synaptic will remove ubuntu-desktop too if I try to unistall it)... I want to remove it to use Mplayer plugin, which is a lot better. Can anybody help me, please?
[03:30] <shadowhywind> foutrelis have you tried super grub cd?
[03:30] <agent> is there an equivalent of xterm -fa in rxvt(-unicode)?
[03:30] <genbie> anyone using eclipse here please?
[03:30] <foutrelis> Shadow_mil, no, what is that? :)
[03:31] <shadowhywind> its a live cd that is supposed to fix the MBR after windows screws it up
[03:31] <foutrelis> nice!
[03:31] <Gabby_Hayes> genbie:  .. have been trying, but not much success  :-(
[03:31] <shadowhywind> i have used it a couple of times and it has worked for me
[03:31] <tomtemple> IN: Intel 6321 ESB I/O controller hub and the "server board" is S5000VSASAS
[03:31] <genbie> in eclipse, when i chose "help" -> "help contents", no external browser gets opened...any solution?
[03:31] <foutrelis> Shadow_mil, I ll get that CD and try it out. Thanks man!
[03:31] <genbie> gabby hayes same here
[03:32] <shadowhywind> yup
[03:32] <Gabby_Hayes> genbie:  .. looks like the docs are not installed
[03:32] <thug> how do i restart x ?
[03:32] <xtknight> cellofellow: yes, the whole mbr is 512.  if you overwrite the rest of the mbr(the part other than the boot code), your partition table will be destroyed
[03:32] <genbie> gabby ah, what package are they please?
[03:32] <JamesM> whats the command to run a command as root
[03:32] <cellofellow> xtknight: you're sure that the other part is 440 then?
[03:32] <JamesM> su something ?
[03:33] <tomp> GinonnyBoss: I dont know how to get rid of useless Totem, but to make sure that mplayer is used all the time, right click on a file ( say an .flv or .mp3 and choose preferences, open with... you'll have to do this for each file extent you want associated with mplayer, eventually totem wont be noticed
[03:33] <Gabby_Hayes> James    su  or  sudo
[03:33] <foutrelis> shadowhywind ;)
[03:33] <tomp> GinonnyBoss: I dont know how to get rid of useless Totem, but to make sure that mplayer is used all the time,
[03:33] <tomp> right click on a file ( say an .flv or .mp3 and choose preferences, open with... you'll have to do this for each file extent you want associated with mplayer, eventually totem wont be noticed
[03:33] <bruenig> !sudo | JamesM
[03:33] <ubotu> JamesM: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:33] <Kazero> Lets say that I went and totally screwed up my copy of 6.10 by installing bad graphics drivers, and it freezes on boot. How can I fix that?
[03:33] <GionnyBoss> tomp, but will this work for the mozilla-plugin, too?
[03:34] <xtknight> cellofellow: still looking...
[03:34] <GionnyBoss> tomp, I like using Totem for files... I would like to use mplayer just for the mozilla plugin
[03:34] <xtknight> cellofellow: "the NT/2000/XP boot code is 440 bytes, while the Win98 boot code is 446 bytes"
[03:34] <thug> GionnyBoss totem has also mozilla plugin
[03:34] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, it is very simple to have mozilla-mplayer for plugin and totem for regular files, that is what I do
[03:34] <GionnyBoss> tomp, I am afraid that if I just remove the plugin from the plugins dir I will make a mess
[03:34] <Kazero> Anyone? Please help, I only have 6.06 CDs and I dont want to have to download all the updates on a fresh copy :(
[03:35] <IntuitiveNipple> tomtemple: I can't find anything that suggests RAID-10 support for that controller, sorry
[03:35] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, just do sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla && sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[03:35] <Gabby_Hayes> gen .. I have two of them listed:   ecj-bootstrap  and ecj-bootstrap-gci
[03:35] <cellofellow> xtknight: 446 it is then. It's a winME box.
[03:35] <xtknight> cellofellow: pretty sure it's 440 you want, but definitely not beyond 446.  backing up and restoring 446 bytes shouldnt do any damage
[03:35] <IntuitiveNipple> tomtemple: I can find it for Windows, though :)
[03:35] <xtknight> cellofellow: ok, 446
[03:35] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, but if I try to remove totem-mozilla, it will remove Ubuntu-Desktop for dependecies too
[03:35] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that means nothing, removing it is fine
[03:36] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, I didn't know that
[03:36] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, thanks... if it's only a metapackage, so no probl
[03:36] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, thanks for your help
[03:36] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, yeah that should be made more clear because it does look a bit scary
[03:36] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, yeah that's right... I was afraid to loose other applications too :P
[03:36] <tomtemple> IN: Thanks anyway, Intuitive Nipple
[03:37] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, have you got any idea how to let java vm sun plugin work with Galeon?
[03:37] <bruenig> none
[03:37] <Vanman> hello all
[03:37] <GionnyBoss> ok no probl, thanks anyway
[03:37] <bruenig> !hi | Vanman
[03:37] <ubotu> Vanman: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:37] <Vanman> anyone familliar with mdadm?
[03:37] <Kazero> Please help. A link to how to restore ubuntu to 6.10 default would be nice or something
[03:37] <bruenig> !info mdadm
[03:37] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[03:38] <Vanman> my /dev/md0 just dissapeared, and I'm freaking out
[03:38] <bruenig> Kazero, reinstall
[03:38] <Judicata> Kazero: can you boot into the safe mode?
[03:38] <Vanman> mdadm -D -s no output
[03:38] <Vanman> mdadm.conf is blank
[03:38] <Gabby_Hayes> what is the C++ package for open source & Linux called,  GCC  or GPP  ?
[03:38] <bruenig> gcc
[03:38] <bruenig> !info gcc
[03:39] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs ..
[03:39] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:39] <Kazero> Judicata, I can only boot to recovery console.
[03:39] <jrib> Gabby_Hayes: you probably want to just get build-essential
[03:39] <Jebho> i dont suppose there is a way to get firefox fonts to look like all the rest of the system fonts is there?
[03:39] <Judicata> Judicata: ok, did you back up your xorg.conf?
[03:39] <xtknight> i thought there was something called gpp
[03:39] <bruenig> !info msttcorefonts
[03:39] <xtknight> maybe its g++ im thinking of
[03:39] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[03:39] <Judicata> i meant Kazero obviously.
[03:39] <livingtm> Are there DVD RW drives that dont have drivers ? Is it possible the kernel cant detect my DVD drive after the livecd boots the kernel?
[03:40] <Kazero> Judicata: No, but I know what I added to that file
[03:40] <xtknight> livingtm: it's possible the kernel did not detect the controller to which the DVD drive is connected
[03:40] <livingtm> the error is "cp: unable to open `root/var/log/': No such file or directory
[03:40] <Judicata> Kazero: Ok. have you tried editing xorg.conf to remove the driver?
[03:40] <livingtm> xtknight, how can i tell/fix?
[03:40] <Gabby_Hayes> jrib:  .. am installing edgy on an SMD-64 dual core ... wanted the 64-bit versions
[03:41] <xtknight> livingtm: may be something else wrong.  not sure about that error
[03:41] <Hiete> is there an easy way to use dual monitors?
[03:41] <speyer> why my mplayer does wokrd in full screen ?
[03:41] <Kazero> Judicata, I dont know how to get to it. sudo vi the file/
[03:41] <jrib> speyer: choose xv as the video output
[03:41] <Kazero> From recovery mode?
[03:41] <livingtm> xtknight, its freggin wierd. No live CD's boot. knoppix fails as well. its a brand new machine
[03:41] <Judicata> Kazero: That's it, and have  a vi cheat sheet nearby
[03:41] <speyer> jrib i did
[03:42] <xtknight> livingtm: core 2 duo im guessing?
[03:42] <Kazero> sudo vi etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:42] <livingtm> xtknight, its a PentiumD 3.4Ghz
[03:42] <xtknight> livingtm: home built or oem?  know the motherboard or ide controller?
[03:42] <jrib> Gabby_Hayes: build-essential provides gcc as well as other stuff you need to successfully compile things
[03:42] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, I guess you have mplayer installed... do you get errors when you open a file with mplayer? I get error with file of certain tipes... it says that I have to compile mplayer with different compiling options... but then I can hear the song or view the vid without any problem
[03:42] <jrib> speyer: mplayer -vo xv name_of_some_video_file   doesn't work?
[03:43] <Gabby_Hayes> yep,  build-essential  requires g++
[03:43] <Judicata> Kazero: that should do the trick.  What driver did you install that screwed things up?
[03:43] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, yeah some filetypes won't play on the mplayer in the repos because it is not compiled with that stuff enabled
[03:43] <cac_> hi folks
[03:43] <livingtm> xtknight, its got the Nvidia geforfce chipset in it
[03:43] <Kazero> Hum sudo vi etc/X11/xorg.conf opened a new file...
[03:43] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs, jrib
[03:43] <Kazero> Judicata: I tried the propetary ati driver.
[03:43] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, so just use totem-xine and get the appropriate codecs and you are fine
[03:43] <speyer> jrib nop
[03:43] <thinh> need help real fast anyonr
[03:43] <jrib> speyer: does it give you any errors?
[03:43] <Judicata> Kazero: ok, so it just didn't work eh?
[03:43] <livingtm> xtknight, er, intel 945 chipset sorry
[03:43] <thinh> my wireless is not working after i install ubuntu but it works in the live cd
[03:44] <speyer> jrib mplayer -vo x11 works but small
[03:44] <xtknight> livingtm: ahh, i think from intel 9xx up intel omitted including ide controllers in the chipset.  perhaps it uses a jmicron?
[03:44] <thinh> i have to use the live cd to get online
[03:44] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, ok thanks... I just wanted to know if you get the same error too ;) No probl for that, with Xine and Totem I can view and listen to whatever I want with no probl :) thanks
[03:44] <foutrelis> shadowhywind: You are a life savior! It fixed my MBR and I was able to boot my Ubuntu installation :) Thanks again!
[03:44] <livingtm> xtknight, how do i tell?
[03:44] <speyer> jrib It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv!
[03:44] <speyer> See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[03:44] <cellofellow> xtknight: can I possibly make a complete copy of the hard drive, including the MBR and all the partitions intact?
[03:44] <Kazero> Judicata: I would assume not, I cant boot into ubuntu anymore, it gets to almost the end of the load bar and I get a green line through the screen and it freezes.
[03:44] <speyer> sorry
[03:44] <thinh> i have a usb flash drive
[03:44] <Kazero> Ugh, I dont remember what I changed...
[03:44] <thinh> can i download network manager package somewhere to install it?
[03:45] <livingtm> xtknight, is there a live image from USB key or something? :-)
[03:45] <Kazero> Whats the default video driver for ATi in Ubuntu?
[03:45] <Kazero> "ati"?
[03:45] <thinh> now
[03:45] <thinh> i am using a cd right now
[03:45] <jrib> speyer: well there you go, have you installed the drivers for your video card?
[03:45] <Judicata> Kazero: ati - its the open source driver. I use fglrx right now, but there are some things I prefer in the ati driver.
[03:45] <facugaich> Kazero: "ati" or "radeon", it's the open source one I think
[03:45] <thinh> i can use the usb to transfer the file into my actual linux
[03:45] <shadowhywind> foutrelis i am glad that it worked for you, i have supergrub allways in my laptop bag for ER cases
[03:45] <Judicata> Kazero: no problem, find "fglrx" and replace those instances with "ati"
[03:45] <Kazero> Wait, it looks like I put EndSectionn on one of the sections, could that cause the problem you think?
[03:46] <speyer> jrib no how do i install them ? never need to
[03:46] <thinh> any know where i can get the package and manually install it
[03:46] <jrib> speyer: what kind of card do you have?
[03:46] <thinh> i have done it before
[03:46] <Judicata> Kazero: there should be a bunch of "EndSections"
[03:46] <shadowhywind> what is the linux text-based internet browsers name?
[03:46] <w3ccv> thinh, explain what happens, what does work, what doesn't work
[03:46] <facugaich> Judicata: I just installed fglrx and everythin 2D seems to be running quite slower than before, does it happened to you?
[03:46] <bringerOfGreater> hi - anyone know if it's possible to change the desktop folder in Ubuntu from the default ~/Desktop to, say, ~/folder/desktop?
[03:46] <Kazero> Judicata: No, I put 2 n's by accident in the file
[03:46] <jrib> shadowhywind: w3c, elinks, lynx
[03:46] <Kazero> "EndSectionn"
[03:46] <Judicata> facugaich: No, but I've heard of that happening to some people. Its a known issue.
[03:46] <thinh> my wireless card works with live cd i am using it to write this
[03:46] <gawain3> is anyone using a linksys wusb54gv4 on dapper?
[03:47] <Kazero> Now if I could just figure out how to save
[03:47] <foutrelis> shadowhywind: supergrub ruled and made my day ;)
[03:47] <thinh> my real ubuntu installion wireless is not working
[03:47] <jrib> shadowhywind: w3m I mean :)
[03:47] <shadowhywind> hehe thanks
[03:47] <thinh> i have to boot to llive cd to go online for now
[03:47] <w3ccv> thinh, what do you mean "not working"
[03:47] <thinh> i think i just need to install network manager
[03:47] <Kazero> Alright, who knows how to save in vi in recovery mode?
[03:47] <Kazero> CTRL+S doesnt work it seems
[03:47] <GionnyBoss> how can I install realplayer? I have all the repos enabled, but I can't find the package
[03:47] <thinh> i cant get on the internet with my ubuntu installation
[03:47] <livingtm> xtknight, any ideas how i can tell abou that other chipset? or cur ethe problem?
[03:48] <Judicata> Kazero: Hmm, I don't know that that would cause you problems, but you can try. "wq" will save changes and quit.
[03:48] <thinh> my wireless card is not working with my installation but works in live cd
[03:48] <speyer> jrib how do i get it listed ?
[03:48] <Kazero> It said "recording" but didnt quit
[03:49] <thinh> the only connection i have is wireless so i cant update so i am stuck
[03:49] <w3ccv> thinh, does it connect but not verify - with WEP. Does the system see the card? "Not Workiong" doesn'
[03:49] <w3ccv> t say much
[03:49] <thinh> its sees it
[03:49] <thinh> its seems to get all dhcp information
[03:49] <jrib> speyer: lspci
[03:50] <bindtv> hello, anybody here?
[03:50] <speyer> jrib VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[03:50] <w3ccv> thinh, do you get a good default route? Do you get the proper name server? (in resolv.conf)
[03:50] <thinh> i dont have wep
[03:50] <jrib> speyer: oh, I don't know anything about intel cards
[03:50] <Kazero> Judicata, how the heck can I get out of vi? I hit wq and it says recording but doesnt quit, and when I reset it doesnt save
[03:50] <thinh> the weird thing is it works fine now
[03:51] <thinh> i use the same connection to connect now
[03:51] <kitche> Kazero: press your esc key then press :wq
[03:51] <thinh> i just need to install the network manager
[03:51] <thinh> i know the name of the access point but that doesnt help
[03:51] <thinh> it gets ip dhcp gateway and all that
[03:51] <Kazero> Ah, I see
[03:52] <Judicata> Kazero: ESC puts vi in command mode, and wq savs and exits
[03:52] <thinh> i just need to download the network manager need to find it and it depency
[03:52] <Judicata> Kazero: I'm not a vim guru, though.
[03:52] <thinh> and manually install it
[03:52] <w3ccv> thinh, ok, get the network manager save it to an external disk, install, then copy from the external disk
[03:52] <jrib> Kazero, Judicata:   :wq
[03:52] <thinh> where do i get it at
[03:52] <tecomega42> curious how would i reinstall the driver for my internal cd drive
[03:52] <thinh> i cant recall the adrress
[03:52] <thinh> i seen it before
[03:52] <Kazero> Sweet, ubuntu boots
[03:53] <etank> how can i specify which gcc version to use if more than one are installed
[03:53] <thinh> i used to do it that way
[03:53] <Kazero> It was all due to haveing 2 n's on EndSection
[03:53] <w3ccv> thinh, don't know.
[03:53] <Kazero> Thanks for your help Judicata
[03:53] <w3ccv> thinh, what distro are you loading
[03:53] <thinh> anyone know where i can download the network manager package?
[03:53] <tecomega42> 6.10
[03:53] <thinh> i am using edgy
[03:53] <tecomega42> edgy
[03:54] <w3ccv> thinh, everything worked from my liveCD of 6.10
[03:54] <Judicata> Kazero: yeah, sorry on not being more specific with the editor. Are you going to try to replace the fglrx in the file ,or just fix the typo?
[03:54] <tecomega42> it does just i can't get my internal cd drive to recognize anything.  It opens closes functions basically.
[03:55] <xtknight> sorry, been afk
[03:55] <xtknight> cellofellow: that would be called hard drive imaging
[03:55] <xtknight> livingtm: not sure, i had a usb cdrom laying around that i used to get past my unsupported controller.
[03:56] <Byan> how to I print to a remote lpd...
[03:56] <Byan> ?
[03:56] <cellofellow> xtknight: so I would just dd if=/dev/hda of=/the/copy.img ?
[03:56] <Byan> or rather
[03:56] <Byan> add the printer
[03:56] <Byan> that is on a remote lpd?
[03:56] <nexis> why cant i get flash player to work in firefox
[03:56] <xtknight> cellofellow: should work.  again, never tried it..  to restore it you should be able to do   dd if=/the/copy.img of=/dev/hda...ask in #linux they'd be able to tell ya
[03:58] <livingtm> xtknight, all ihave is IDE cdroms :-( damn. this sucks. this computer is going to have to run windows if i cant get past this
[03:58] <xtknight> livingtm: ur on windows now right?
[03:58] <livingtm> xtknight, we just opened the box, we had it built, they wouldnt sell one without windows pre installed on it
[03:58] <marcelo> join vbox
[03:59] <xtknight> livingtm: use PC Wizard and try to find the model of your ide controller.
[03:59] <xtknight> livingtm: tried booting Ubuntu Feisty just for ***s and giggles?
[03:59] <xtknight> livingtm: might support newer HW
[03:59] <livingtm> hm no
[03:59] <livingtm> lemme boot into windows
[04:00] <makuseru> where can i download open gl 2
[04:00] <xtknight> makuseru: your video drivers contain opengl
[04:01] <livingtm> xtnight PCwizard? not device manager?
[04:01] <xtknight> livingtm: "PC Wizard" , cpuid.com or something
[04:01] <thinh> anyone know where i can get network manager package?
[04:02] <Kazero> Oh man, I f-d up ubuntu goof
[04:02] <Kazero> good*
[04:02] <Kazero> Even failsafe gnome doesnt work
[04:02] <ejm> @ati
[04:02] <ejm> !ati
[04:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <xtknight> thinh: apt-cache search networkmanager
[04:02] <Judicata> thinh: synaptic. its in the repos.
[04:02] <thinh> i dont have internet connection
[04:02] <thinh> my internet is not working on my installation
[04:02] <ubuntu> thinh hi man
[04:03] <thinh> i am runing of the live cd right now
[04:03] <riotkittie> network-manager-gnome?
[04:03] <thinh> yeah
[04:03] <kitche> thinh: it might be working but ipv6 will slow it down to a crawl if you don't disable it
[04:03] <riotkittie> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[04:03] <thinh> my wireless is not working on my installation but works fine in live cd
[04:04] <ubuntu> thinh man I tell you sometime UBuntu have bug
[04:04] <livingtm> xtknight, where would i find that information in PC wizard?
[04:04] <thinh> how do i disable ip6
[04:04] <ubuntu> !ip6
[04:04] <nbjayme> hello, anybody know of a navy simulator program that runs on Linux commercial and / or FOSS?
[04:04] <xtknight> !ipv6 | thinh
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <ubotu> thinh: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:05] <nbjayme> join #xubuntu
[04:05] <thinh> i need to download the network manager package and i am good
[04:05] <xtknight> livingtm: hm.  "mainboard" i think
[04:05] <thinh> i done it before and it work fine
[04:05] <thinh> but i dont remember the site no more
[04:05] <nbjayme> oops!
[04:05] <xtknight> !network-manager
[04:05] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[04:05] <livingtm> xtknight, nothing abou ide in there
[04:06] <thinh> its ubuntu
[04:06] <Byan> how do I mount my FAT32 and NTFS partitions perminently?
[04:06] <livingtm> its a Intel DG965WH mainboard
[04:06] <livingtm> xtknight, its a Intel DG965WH mainboard
[04:06] <rudee> /server irc.freenode.net
[04:07] <thinh> is it on the cd?
[04:07] <Byan> anyone know?
[04:07] <thinh> talk about evil circle
[04:08] <thinh> i need internet to get network manager to work but i cant access internet in my current installation
[04:08] <xtknight> livingtm: honestly im not sure where its listed.
[04:08] <xtknight> livingtm: ill see if i can find it on the spec of your board
[04:08] <firephoto> livingtm: the latest feisty daily live will boot on that board. i have a dg965ss
[04:08] <livingtm> Fire where is the fiesty cd?
[04:08] <thinh> has anyone able to fix the wireless on a fresh installation
[04:09] <gaspipe1> >flannel u there?
[04:09] <xtknight> livingtm: oh so 965 not 945?
[04:09] <firephoto> livingtm: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:09] <rudee> hello channel.. I would just like to ask if anyone in here has success installing the openchrome drivers
[04:09] <xtknight> firephoto: jmicron controller on that board?
[04:10] <firephoto> xtknight: no, marvell
[04:10] <firephoto> needs the pata_marvell module
[04:10] <xtknight> ahhhh
[04:10] <firephoto> it's in edgy with updates, but not the edgy install cd
[04:10] <speyer> git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm        No such file or directory
[04:10] <gaspipe1> i have had 0 luck installing ubuntu
[04:10] <gaspipe1> <[04:11] <xtknight> firephoto: does intel list it in their mobo specs anywhere?  cant seem to find it in the pdf.  all their boards use marvell for pata i assume with intel 9xx chipsets and above?
[04:11] <Kazero> Bah, now failsafe everything doesnt work.
[04:11] <jkernsjr> anyone here know about vpnc in edgy?
[04:11] <firephoto> livingtm: the network didn't seem to work with edgy when i tried it either. just a warning so you don't get stuck there if you were to get edgy installed on a disk.
[04:12] <firephoto> xtknight: i think just the 965 intel branded boards.
[04:12] <gaspipe1> whats the best link to install ubuntu when xp is loaded?
[04:13] <rudee> guys who can i ask about beryl here?
[04:13] <Judicata> gaspipe1: what? Do you need a cd or do you have one?
[04:13] <Judicata> rudee: you can try :)
[04:14] <speyer> how do i download from git://anongit.freedesktop.org   what do i need to download from git urls ?
[04:14] <thinh> anyone know network manager depency?
[04:14] <gaspipe1> >judicata i'm screwed... i have the cd
[04:14] <thinh> can some check for me real fast please i found the software package for network manager
[04:14] <rudee> any one who has success in installing beryl on openchrome?
[04:14] <Judicata> gaspipe1: so what's your problem?
[04:15] <kitche> speyer: try git clone git://anongit.freendesktop.org but you need to end the url with a .git file
[04:15] <gaspipe1> >judicata got a min.... it's a bit much
[04:15] <xtknight> rudee: #beryl mainly ;P
[04:15] <Judicata> rudee: sorry, i'm not familiar with openchrome.
[04:15] <Judicata> gaspipe1: fire away
[04:15] <gaspipe1> >judicata thanks
[04:15] <speyer> kitche the url its git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm  and it doesnt work
[04:16] <Judicata> gaspipe1: if  i can't help, though, there may be someone in here that can.
[04:16] <gaspipe1> >judicata  I have 2 HDD 1 80 gig that has xp pro on c: and 2nd HDD 180 gig for back up
[04:16] <D7k> seriously this makes no sense why it won't let me have 1280x1024 res
[04:16] <Centaur5> I have a t-mobile edge card connecting and getting an ip address but 60% of the packets have errors, what can I do from here?
[04:16] <Judicata> gaspipe1: both internal?
[04:16] <boyko> Hi.
[04:16] <kitche> speyer: your missing the .git file
[04:16] <livingtm> firephoto, how stable is feisty at this point
[04:17] <AzMoo> livingtm, I heard that it's early alpha and likely to break.
[04:17] <speyer> kitche they dont show me a git file
[04:17] <speyer> kitche http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[04:17] <rudee> thanks guys.. ill try that channel then
[04:17] <rudee> :)
[04:17] <firephoto> livingtm: i'd call it stable, but you have to be careful what and when you update.
[04:17] <mevets> hey guys
[04:17] <boyko> Question: Can I access my GUI via a virtual terminal?  In other words, can I operate my computer from home beyond text in ssh/telnet?
[04:17] <livingtm> so it MIGHT boot on this machine, and it MIGHT make it a bitch for a new linux user
[04:17] <AzMoo> D7k, what's it doing?
[04:18] <kitche> speyer: ah they do it differently that's why but anyways it's just git clone not git-clone
[04:18] <marshall> im at the 'make' phase of the banshee 0.11.4 installation and i would like to make a .deb of it. how do i do that again?
[04:18] <firephoto> livingtm: yes. lol, actually it will boot, i know for a fact. the live cd, the alternate is broken.
[04:18] <gaspipe1> >judicata my 1st attemp i tried installing on 1st HDD with dual boot... I then had a total of 3 partitions on HD 1 c: 60 gig with XP, then 2 others that xp didn't recocgnice or give a letter to, one for 10gigs for ubuntu, and a small 500mg that was a logical drive. ok so far?
[04:18] <mevets> whats the cmd to delete files in the termnal?
[04:18] <marshall> mevets: rm
[04:18] <AzMoo> mevets, rm
[04:18] <Judicata> gaspipe1: yep
[04:18] <jkernsjr> anyone here familiar with vpnc on edgy?
[04:18] <livingtm> firephoto, but then i will have to deal with the unstable issues in feisty though
[04:18] <mevets> thanks
[04:18] <speyer> kitche how the f i press RETURN ?
[04:18] <firephoto> livingtm: if you can install edgy on another system using the drive, and move that drive to the 965 box it will work that way.
[04:18] <Byan> how fo I tell the gateway of the network I am on...
[04:19] <kitche> speyer: hang on I m looking at it right now
[04:19] <Byan> how do*
[04:19] <livingtm> firephoto, problem is its not my machine. its my fathers. he's never used ubuntu before
[04:19] <speyer> kitche Press RETURN to run gitfm
[04:19] <kitche> speyer: try this what you did before but put drm.git at the end instead of just drm
[04:19] <firephoto> livingtm: you need edgy + latest updates and you'll get the kernel fixes it needs.
[04:19] <D7k> AzMoo: just always gives me 1024x768, and I have the proper lines in xorg.conf
[04:19] <volmarias> Hi, I'm having trouble with intel's G945 Graphics drivers. In particular, they don't seem to have binaries anymore, and I'm getting errors attempting to compile from source. Can anyone suggest a place to look for bins?
[04:19] <volmarias> Intel's feedback forms have been, shall we say, less than helpful :(
[04:20] <maharashii> Howdy folks.  Using edgy installed to a USB drive on my laptop.  Installed security updates last night.  After reboot, startup fails with: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[04:20] <livingtm> firephoto, cant do that though right? i mean theres no nightly snapshot of edgy iso is there?
[04:20] <AzMoo> Byan, System>Administration>Networking Select your interface, click properties
[04:20] <Judicata> livingtm: no way would i hand feisty to a new user.
[04:20] <kitche> speyer: never heard of gitfm
[04:20] <maharashii> anything I can do to troubleshoot from the command line I end up looking at?
[04:20] <AzMoo> D7k, pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[04:20] <livingtm> Judicata, right. damn thanks for the headsup
[04:20] <firephoto> livingtm: the one issue might be the network not working. i didn't spend much time trying to see if it actually would work, i pushed the update to feisty on the other non 965 system with the disk attached.
[04:20] <speyer> kitche works now how the f do i Press RETURN
[04:20] <kitche> speyer: enter
[04:20] <livingtm> firephoto, so is it possible to get an up to date install CD?
[04:20] <speyer> kitche doesnt work :(
[04:20] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[04:20] <gaspipe1> >judicata grub wouldn't load...would go direct to xp... so I asked around... saw a link to install grub... that didn't work.... wuoldn't load anything. I would do a cd boot, and pick option (last one) load from hd. Then i would have grub and could pick ubuntu or xp and it would work fine. At this point XP still didn't see ubuntu drives, and I couldn't see any xp files from ubuntu
[04:21] <firephoto> livingtm: i don't think so for edgy.
[04:21] <gaspipe1> >judicata so far u with me?
[04:21] <basilioso> how do i get a limewire for ubuntu
[04:21] <wastrel> !limewire | basilioso
[04:21] <ubotu> basilioso: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:21] <Byan> AzMoo: didn't work
[04:21] <Byan> AzMoo: says it's not configured...
[04:21] <Kazero> So heres the deal, im in recovery console for ubuntu because i killed my drivers. I want to do an apt-get, and im on a laptop. I have it plugged into ethernet. How can I allow it to connect to the internet?
[04:21] <Judicata> gaspipe1: I think so. You installed Ubuntu (edgy?), grub didn't work at first, and then it did?
[04:21] <gaspipe1> guess not
[04:21] <Lord_Nightmare> what's the command for once you've downloaded source using apt-get source <packagename>, to actually automatically build that package?
[04:21] <livingtm> firephoto, man this is frustrating. too bad you cant boot off of an ISO image
[04:22] <D7k> AzMoo: ok, just a second
[04:22] <gaspipe1> ok
[04:22] <livingtm> firephoto, without using a CDROM drive
[04:22] <volmarias> Kazero: Do you have an IP yet?
[04:22] <Kazero> volmarias: I have no idea
[04:22] <maco> lord_nightmare i think it's apt-build
[04:22] <firephoto> livingtm: if you had a bootable usb it would work probably.
[04:22] <volmarias> Kazero: run ifconfig
[04:22] <AzMoo> Byan, the interface itself is not configured? Can you see your local network?
[04:22] <livingtm> firephoto, how do i get the image on the usb stick
[04:22] <Judicata> gaspipe1: I was taking time to read it, and there may be a bit of lag.
[04:23] <livingtm> firephoto, or you mean usb cdrom
[04:23] <gaspipe1> >judicata i would have a menu (grub) only if I loaded from ubuntu's live cd, then i would pick load from HD, thats when i had a choice to pick which os xp or ubuntu to load....
[04:23] <Kazero> volmarias: I have eth1 and eth0, ones wireless. I dont know which is ethernet
[04:23] <Byan> AzMoo: the networking thing says it's not config
[04:23] <volmarias> Kazero: eth1 and eth0 :P
[04:23] <Byan> ifconfig disagrees
[04:23] <firephoto> livingtm: usb cdrom would be easy, usb flash didn't work for me.
[04:23] <Judicata> gaspipe1: ah, ok
[04:23] <gaspipe1> >judicata i'm just happy u are still with me
[04:23] <livingtm> damn.
[04:23] <volmarias> Kazero: Anyway, does one of them list an IP?
[04:23] <wastrel> my wifi is eth1
[04:23] <Kazero> volmarias: I dont think so, I dont see anything that looks like an IP
[04:24] <gaspipe1> >judicata so i realized that, the way it is configured isn't good... so i thought if in xp i would delete and reformat the 2 partitions that ubuntu created, and reinsall them that it would all be good.
[04:24] <Kazero> Ah, it just needed time
[04:24] <D7k> AzMoo: http://rafb.net/p/rCUEuF93.html
[04:24] <Judicata> gaspipe1: well, you would've been better off doing that from the live cd.
[04:24] <Kazero> It appears to work for apt-get now
[04:24] <Lord_Nightmare> maco: its actually dpkg-buildpackage but thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[04:24] <volmarias> Kazero: Ok :)
[04:25] <volmarias> Kazero: Have fun! :D
[04:25] <gaspipe1> >judicata i didn't know how to do that
[04:25] <gaspipe1> :(
[04:25] <maharashii> busy channel ... not trying to be a pest.  can anyone point me in the right direction?  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off booting edgy from usb hard drive.  worked prior to installingsecurity  updates last night.
[04:25] <firephoto> livingtm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:25] <Judicata> gaspipe1: ok, continue
[04:25] <Kazero> Bah, any way to force it to install a package. I screwed up installing fglrx, and I want to apt-get install fglrx hoping that it will fix the problem
[04:26] <Kazero> But it says I already have the newesty version
[04:26] <PaulusVictor> Can anyone suggest a nice, simple calendar program for Ubuntu?
[04:26] <Judicata> Kazero: is your xorg.conf all correct now?
[04:26] <gaspipe1> >judicata so anyway i had a c: (with xp) e: 12 gig, and f (500mg that was logical) all on 1 HD, also my d: that is 160 gigs
[04:26] <jkernsjr> anyone here familiar with edgy and vpnc?
[04:26] <volmarias> PaulusVictor: You don't want mayan calendar support? :D
[04:26] <Kazero> Judicata: I changed all the fglrx references to ATi and I couldnt boot to ubuntu again
[04:26] <AzMoo> Byan, gotcha. I can't help you there. I'm not all that familiar with the specifics of ubuntu.
[04:26] <Kazero> s/ATi/ati
[04:26] <Judicata> Kazero: try UNinstalling the fglrx drivers
[04:26] <gaspipe1> >judica so for ok?
[04:27] <PaulusVictor> Volmarias: Just something to help me keep track of the 18 hours worth of classes I'm taking this semester. =)
[04:27] <Judicata> gaspipe1: yep, so what's the prob?
[04:27] <Kazero> Judicata: How do I do that through console?
[04:27] <AzMoo> D7k, looks good to me. Have you changed your resolution in preferences?
[04:27] <Byan> AzMoo: uh.. ok
[04:27] <D7k> AzMoo: the screen resolution little app?
[04:27] <D7k> that won't let me choose 1280x1024
[04:27] <gaspipe1> >judicata i couldn't install ubuntu into the new partitions e: or f: xp won't load at all, and the only access to a pc is via ubuntu's live cd
[04:27] <Judicata> Kazero: dpkg -r fglrx, and dpkg -r fglrx-control might work...
[04:28] <gaspipe1> >judicata and...
[04:28] <Judicata> gaspipe1: we got the live CD, that's good.
[04:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> question for you guys can anyone tell me why i would have to reinstall nvidia drivers everytime i reboot?
[04:28] <psplatter> Hey, I was trying to install Ubuntu Server on an old box in my basement. I boot the cd and choose Install. After running hardware detection, it gives me a blue screen with a grey box at the bottom I can type in, after a few minutes my keyboard stops working too. I tried both 6.10 and 6.06.1, but neither works. I tried verifying the cd, but it does the same thing. Any ideas?
[04:28] <Kazero> Judicata: It says fglrx isnt installed.
[04:28] <Kazero> Odd
[04:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> this is a fresh install of ubuntu
[04:28] <livingtm> firephoto, My usb key is only 512.. man im about to giveup.. thanks for your help :-(
[04:28] <Flannel> psplatter: how did you burn the CD?
[04:28] <Judicata> Kazero:  try fglrx-control.
[04:28] <psplatter> with my dvd burner
[04:29] <Flannel> psplatter: what speed?
[04:29] <psplatter> well cd/dvd
[04:29] <psplatter> 40x
[04:29] <gaspipe1> >judicata using gparted i try'd to delete them....man i don't even know what i have anymore... i tryed to do it on the d: drive...but said something about reformating.. and i got scared and stoped
[04:29] <psplatter> everything else I burn works perfect though
[04:29] <volmarias> psplatter: Does the old machine have any stability problems that you know about?
[04:29] <Flannel> psplatter: burn at 4x, and (if you didn't download ith a torrent) verify the md5
[04:29] <volmarias> I mean, aside from this :P
[04:29] <tristan> who can tell me how to capture DV video on a piss slow harddisk without dropping frames ?
[04:29] <Judicata> gaspipe1: well, it is going to reformat the ubuntu drives for you.
[04:30] <psplatter> well sometimes I get an error about the lack of a null pointer to the start of the drive and it crashes
[04:30] <blueprints88888> Does anyone know of music making software,for making beats, some thing like Fruity Loops??????????
[04:30] <Flannel> psplatter: ISOs are very succeptable to errors induced by quick burning
[04:30] <volmarias> PaulusVictor: Sorry, I honestly can't suggest anything good. Most solutions are either crappy or way too full blown
[04:30] <psplatter> so I got a new drive
[04:30] <firephoto> livingtm: np, just trying to get the 965 support better by figuring things out. it's a rough road so far though.
[04:30] <maharashii> tristan: get a faster hard drive or get some software to do real-time compression.
[04:30] <Flannel> psplatter: burn at 4x, it should fix your issues
[04:30] <psplatter> alright, I'll give it a try
[04:30] <psplatter> thanks
[04:30] <tristan> maharashii, its not analog video - why capture in real time ?
[04:30] <D7k> AzMoo: perhaps it has to do with my Monitor section?
[04:30] <arlocita> sorry if interrupting - i need some help with a usb wireless adapter and terminal commands ...
[04:30] <Judicata> gaspipe1: First, go ahead an manually edit the partition table. Delete the two smaller partitions, and then use some of that space for ubuntu. When it asks you where to install the bootloader (grub), go ahead and put it on /dev/hda1.
[04:30] <gaspipe1> >judicata can we do this.... turn hd1 (80 gig w/ xp) back to 1 prtition, and make hd2 1 partition? then try to reinstall ubunu and have grub work?
[04:30] <tristan> maharashii, while (write () ..) read ();
[04:30] <blueprints88888> Does anyone know of music making software,for making beats, some thing like Fruity Loops??????????
[04:30] <tristan> maharashii, simple as that shouldnt it be ?
[04:31] <Judicata> gaspipe1: yep. see above.
[04:31] <PaulusVictor> Volmarias: I just downloaded KOrganizer. Now I just have to find where Ubuntu put the shortcut.....
[04:31] <blueprints88888> but FREE
[04:31] <gaspipe1> >judicata ca u im me?
[04:31] <maharashii> tristan: sorry - i'm stuck in an analog world.  but if it's not real-time i don't see how dropping frames would be an issue.
[04:31] <Judicata> gaspipe1: just a minute.
[04:31] <eternalswd> is there a way to disable icons in the gnome menu and the window list?
[04:31] <Judicata> Kazero: try dpkg -r xorg-driver-fglrx. not fglrx (my mistake).
[04:32] <gaspipe1> >judicata thanks so much!!
[04:32] <tristan> maharashii, its digital video, just I think the tools (kino/dvgrab) dont want to capture efficiently
[04:32] <blueprints88888> but FREE
[04:32] <blueprints88888> but FREE
[04:32] <blueprints88888> Does anyone know of music making software,for making beats, some thing like Fruity Loops??????????
[04:33] <tristan> maharashii, I wonder if "cat /dev/dv1934/0 > capture_file" would work - or if it would be more efficient
[04:33] <Flannel> !repeat | blueprints88888
[04:33] <ubotu> blueprints88888: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:33] <washbear> any new hot tips on Premiere/Final Cut replacements for video editing?
[04:33] <maharashii> !patience
[04:33] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:33] <PaulusVictor> I just downloaded KOrganizer, but it seems that Ubuntu didn't make a shortcut anywhere. Where could it have been downloaded to?
[04:33] <Pelo> blueprints88888,  check the gnomefiles
[04:34] <blueprints88888> Pelo: how do i do that?
[04:34] <Judicata> gaspipe1: you still ticking?
[04:34] <Pelo> blueprints88888,  are you on ubuntu ?
[04:34] <gaspipe1> i'm here
[04:34] <blueprints88888> yes i am
[04:34] <blueprints88888> dapper drake
[04:34] <gaspipe1> >judicata waiting on u'r im
[04:34] <wastrel> this channel is too busy
[04:34] <Judicata> gaspipe1: i messaged you...
[04:35] <Pelo> blueprints88888,  ,  menu > system > about gnome,  follow the links for softwares
[04:35] <gaspipe1> >judicata i'm using the chat program from live cd
[04:35] <AzMoo> D7k, could be. Your HorizSync may be too low for 1280x1024. Do you know your monitor specs?
[04:35] <blueprints88888> k thanks
[04:35] <Judicata> gaspipe1: is that xchat?
[04:35] <D7k> AzMoo: I'll find them online
[04:35] <gaspipe1> gaim
[04:35] <maharashii> in the interest of self help ... i see suggestions to check if the UUID of my hard drive has somehow changed.  i'm going down for a reboot to see if i can update the menu.lst and fstab files to the correct value if necessary.  we'll see what happens :)
[04:35] <checkmate> when i attempt to use this plugin in firefox: http://www.iua.upf.edu/~malonso/pdplugin/  it crashes out of firefox completely when i turn on the audio, no freezes/hangs, just instant dropout of firefox. can someone test it to see if it works for them? i'm running firefox 1.5.0.8
[04:35] <Judicata> gaspipe1: O. I don't know about the irc stuff in there. We can just keep it here, if you'd like.
[04:35] <lebowski> there is something wrong with my guarddog, I disabled the firewall, and a very few sites now seem to be working
[04:36] <arlocita> I guess really my request is for help with terminal commands - don't understand solution ... thanks for any help
[04:36] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok what should i do... please make it step by step...sorry about this and thank you again so much
[04:36] <wastrel> which terminal commands would those be
[04:36] <Herry> hi
[04:36] <lebowski> unknow host ??
[04:36] <gaspipe1> >judicata I feel like i'm in an airport of a country I don't speak the language
[04:37] <Judicata> gaspipe1: You know more than you think. Just boot to the live CD and start the install process. When it gives you the option, modify the partition table.
[04:37] <jkernsjr> did dapper not lock down vpnc and edgy does?
[04:37] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok let me do that
[04:37] <Judicata> gaspipe1: delete the two ubuntu partitions, apply the changes. then create two more partitions.
[04:37] <sikumkum> hi guys
[04:37] <Judicata> gaspipe1: when you get there, let me konw.
[04:38] <arlocita> wastrel - see here:  http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/agebhard/WUSB54GC/
[04:38] <sikumkum> any related solution regarding the openssl issue(s) bug with php + kernel in 6.10 ?
[04:38] <gaspipe1> >judicata what about all the paritions?
[04:38] <davidoh> ok so im installing ubuntu right now and the "ubuntu" screen is in black an white nad the progress bar is all funky... is this bad?
[04:38] <sikumkum> http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=32979 <-- i got the same problem in here
[04:38] <D7k> AzMoo: that did it
[04:38] <AzMoo> D7k, xorg uses a combination of the HorizSync and the VertRefresh to determine valid Modes, but I'm having trouble finding where.
[04:38] <AzMoo> D7k, yeah, nice one. Thought so.
[04:38] <gaspipe1> >judicata how do i delete the partitions?
[04:39] <Judicata> gaspipe1: delete the two ubuntu partitions. Ignore the rest (just make sure the format box isn't checked next to the others)
[04:39] <sikumkum> does anyone got experience with openssl bug?
[04:39] <D7k> AzMoo: I think I need to install the OpenChrome drivers to get a little more performance out of it though
[04:39] <D7k> AzMoo: pretty sad hardware, really.
[04:39] <Judicata> gaspipe1: well, when you choose to modify the partition table, GParted will pop up. highlight one partition and push the delete button.
[04:39] <chm0d> could anyone tell me why i would have to reinstall nvidia drivers everytime i reboot???
[04:39] <the_rick> !postfix
[04:39] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[04:40] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok let me start gparted
[04:40] <sikumkum> please? help... anyone got same problem with SSL in 64Bit ?
[04:40] <mag_> what is the meanig og ubuntu alternate ? I don't understan which ubuntu should I have to download
[04:40] <EDinNY> are there any issues with clamav in ubuntu?  I just installed it.  It said there were errors, then I found that there is no config file
[04:40] <arlocita> @wastrel - here is another solution that is ubuntu specific, but again I don't understand it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/LinksysWUSB54GC
[04:40] <mag_> what is the meanig of ubuntu alternate ? I don't understan which ubuntu should I have to download
[04:40] <kitche> mag_ ubuntu alternate is for people that don't want to use a livecd for installing
[04:41] <psplatter> but for the record, live cds are awesome
[04:41] <AzMoo> D7k, I would. Specific drivers are usually better. I've never used openchrome myself though.
[04:41] <fokuslee> if ls /etc/*release 1>/dev/null 2>&1; then  My understanding is that all the files listed will be dumped, and then clause is executed. however if ls fails to find anyfile error is sent to stdout and we just exit.  is my understanding rite
[04:41] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok shows my 2 hd... /dev/hdb1 and an unallocated (this is on my 160 gig)
[04:41] <mag_> kitche: ohhh... I need to do a server a file server but I need the graphics what should I have to download ?
[04:42] <kitche> mag_ either or livecd is good
[04:42] <EDinNY> has anyone used clamav in ubuntu?
[04:42] <mag_> kitche: I have AMD opteron 64
[04:42] <Judicata> gaspipe1: so, do you see hda1, hda2, and hda3?
[04:42] <kitche> mag_: then the amd64 iso
[04:42] <mag_> kitche: yes nut I have some problems with ubuntu I CAN'T install
[04:42] <volmarias> Huzzah for the ubuntu forums
[04:42] <JamesM> I have an ext2 partition /dev/sda3
[04:42] <volmarias> I swear to fuck ubuntu is the only distro where there's more help than "rtfm"
[04:42] <JamesM> how can i mount this ?
[04:42] <gaspipe1> >judicata no, it's sda1 and an unallocated
[04:43] <fernando> aomeone to talk??
[04:43] <kitche> mag_: what's your problem then?
[04:43] <gaspipe1> >judicaa thats on my 80 gig w/xp
[04:43] <mag_> kitche: just I can't to install because it says booting the kernel and after the server didn't anything
[04:43] <mag_> 21:43 < kitche> mag_: what's your problem then?
[04:43] <mag_> 21:43 < gaspipe1> >judicaa thats on my 80 gig w/xp
[04:43] <mag_> 21:43 < mag_> kitche: just I can't to install because it says booting the kernel and after the server didn't anything
[04:43] <mag_> 21:43 < kitche> mag_: what's your problem then?
[04:43] <mag_> 21:43 < gaspipe1> >judicaa thats on my 80 gig w/xp
[04:43] <Judicata> gaspipe1: what's on your 80gb? sda1 and unallocated?
[04:43] <mag_> sorry
[04:43] <mag_> 21:43 < mag_> kitche: just I can't to install because it says booting the kernel and after the server didn't anything
[04:43] <gaspipe1> >judicata yes
[04:43] <D7k> cool, sound works on this thing
[04:43] <volmarias> JamesM, do you know about the mount command? Or did you want something else?
[04:44] <mag_> kitche: can you help me ?
[04:44] <maharashi1> success!  I'm now online from ubuntu.  turns out the system won't boot from my usb drive when my usb mouse is connected ... crazy
[04:44] <sikumkum> help please
[04:44] <gaspipe1> >judicata can i get rid of that unallocated?
[04:44] <Judicata> gaspipe1: AH, ok
[04:44] <Judicata> gaspipe1: you put it to good use :). create a new partition.
[04:44] <kitche> mag_: then you might want the alternate cd
[04:44] <volmarias> sikumkum: I don't think I have got that bug, sorry
[04:44] <Judicata> gaspipe1: it seems those two partitions have already been deleted.
[04:44] <sikumkum> ive run my php-cli under ubuntu 6.10 and it doesnt  working with openssl
[04:45] <gaspipe1> >judicata on the unallocated...create new?
[04:45] <Kazero> Hum, I added the WINE repositories, but it says "NO PUBLIC KEY" and I cant install it
[04:45] <Kazero> Any ideas?
[04:45] <gaspipe1> >judicata it's 12.3 gigs
[04:45] <Judicata> gaspipe1: yes. And don't worry, you can only use unallocated space to create a partition.
[04:45] <ubuntu> sikumkum try xampp
[04:45] <mag_> kitche: I have two cd alternate and server and is the same problem i have : ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso and ubuntu-6.10-server-amd64.iso
[04:45] <gaspipe1> >judicata i have 21.9 unused on /dev/sda1
[04:45] <mag_> kitche: those cd's give me the same problem I have sata
[04:45] <mag_> kitche: I don't know if it is a problem
[04:46] <Judicata> gaspipe1: so, create, two partitions, say 11gb for one, and the rest for the other.
[04:46] <gaspipe1> >judicata free space pending should be?
[04:46] <ubuntu> NOw Ubuntu don't run on SATA
[04:46] <kitche> mag_: then try the i386 cd, it seems like the computer doesn't like those cds did you md5sum them before bruning the iso
[04:46] <ubuntu> hey the programer of UBuntu fast tell some reply
[04:46] <ubuntu> FLennel hey are you here.
[04:47] <volmarias> ubuntu: huh?
[04:47] <Judicata> gaspipe1: I'm not sure what you're asking. Can you not create those two partitions?
[04:47] <mag_> ubuntu: ubuntu don't run on sata ? really ?
[04:47] <keknehv> I'm trying to set up an ext2 partition (/dev/sda5) to allow complete read/write access to one of my users, does anyone here know of the proper fstab command to do so?
[04:47] <keknehv> mag_: It runs on SATA
[04:47] <gaspipe1> >judicata I slide the "bar" till it says new size 11006?
[04:47] <sikumkum> ubuntu: xammp? im on ubuntu 6.10 smp machine
[04:47] <keknehv> mag_: I'm running on SATA
[04:47] <ubuntu> mag you say that UBuntu don't run on SATA
[04:47] <sikumkum> not in windos
[04:47] <EDinNY> looks like it is fixing klamav itself
[04:47] <ubuntu> vlmarias then how to install tell on mag
[04:47] <Judicata> gaspipe1: sure, that sounds about right. maybe more like 11400.
[04:47] <ubuntu> volmarias
[04:47] <keknehv> So, anyone know how to mount a partition for full rw for any users?
[04:48] <gaspipe1> >judicata should "round to cylinders" checked?
[04:48] <Giant_sea_turtle> cchange the ownership of the folder you mount it to
[04:48] <volmarias> ubuntu
[04:48] <Smirnov> do i need **real** nvidia drivers if I want to do svideo tv-out ?
[04:48] <Judicata> gaspipe1: whatever the default is - it doesn't matter.
[04:48] <ubuntu> mag_ why don't you ask volmaris he say that UBuntu run in 64
[04:48] <mag_> kitche: ubuntu; keknehv ;I have a i386 6.06 but the problem in the installation is that ubuntu stop in the step of partitions and after the server doesn't continue
[04:48] <volmarias> I have no idea what the hell you said :(
[04:48] <Kazero> Know what, ill just re-install ubuntu
[04:49] <break_> hihi
[04:49] <volmarias> hi
[04:49] <TooR4u> i set the xgl server through bryl.But now i have a problem ... My gdm is damd slow ...it is not able to play the video files properly .. what i have to do now?
[04:49] <gaspipe1> >judicata it says "create as Primary Partition...and filesystem ext3
[04:49] <ubuntu> volmarias mag_ have problem
[04:49] <break_> i have a question!
[04:49] <mag_> volmarias: volmarias do you speak spanish ?
[04:49] <break_> about partitioning
[04:49] <break_> :o
[04:49] <Judicata> Kazero: You sure? did you try uninstalling the xorg-driver-fglrx?
[04:49] <volmarias> mag_ poorly :(
[04:49] <ubuntu> break i too have a question
[04:49] <volmarias> your english will be better than my spanish
[04:49] <Judicata> gaspipe1: thats it.
[04:49] <ubuntu> mag_ i speak Spanish but here they need to speak English
[04:49] <sikumkum> http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=32979 <--- anyone could help me with this bug? apparently ubuntu package is openssl included which on 64 Bit machine caused a serious bug, 100% cpu
[04:49] <ubuntu> bastard
[04:49] <Kazero> Judicata: Yeah. Its all messed up, I can only boot an older kernal, wine wont install, ill start over
[04:50] <Kazero> All this for beryl O_o
[04:50] <volmarias> break_, Ok, ask it?
[04:50] <TooR4u> any ideas?
[04:50] <Kazero> Maybe ill just install Vista :P
[04:50] <break_> NO!
[04:50] <mag_> volmarias: ok well I have a problem I hope you can help me ! I have a server with HD sata and opteron AMD 64 but ubuntu doesn't continue the installation
[04:50] <Judicata> Kazero: don't break my heart. Beryl isn't that big of a deal anyway.
[04:50] <volmarias> mag_ Sorry, I can't :(
[04:50] <ubuntu> Kazero don;t install VIsta
[04:50] <mag_> volmarias: just it says booting the kernel... and that's all
[04:50] <gaspipe1> >judicata now for the 2nd...
[04:50] <mag_> volmarias: ok ! thank's
[04:50] <Kazero> Judicata: I already have beryl on my other PC, its sweet
[04:50] <EDinNY> odd...it says that the version of ClamAV that ubuntu installed is outdated...is it not supported?
[04:50] <volmarias> mag_: Which version did you download?
[04:50] <gaspipe1> >judicata do it in the new unallocation?
[04:50] <volmarias> AMD64?
[04:50] <ubuntu> EdinNY man run with su command and then upodate
[04:50] <keknehv> mag_: What precise step? Do you know that the last thing it said was?
[04:51] <ubuntu> it work
[04:51] <Judicata> gaspipe1: same thing, except when you chooes the file system, choose "linux-swap"
[04:51] <sikumkum> mag: try to burn again the instalation. ive been there before
[04:51] <jbroome> EDinNY: how does "outdated" = not supported?
[04:51] <Judicata> gaspipe1: just use the remaining space.
[04:51] <keknehv> mag_: I've successfully installed both AMD64 and x86 on SATA
[04:51] <volmarias> mag_ Try getting x86 instead if so
[04:51] <Judicata> Kazero: I was trying to make you feel better.
[04:51] <break_> i need to delete/resize an ntfs partition on my 120gb hard drive, without disturbing my other partitions on the drive
[04:51] <break_> is that possible :x
[04:51] <gaspipe1> >judicata 1221 sound good? as in size?
[04:51] <EDinNY> ubuntu, I installed it then ran adept updater
[04:51] <MotorCityMadMan> !kde
[04:51] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:51] <mag_> volmarias: I tryed to install ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso and ubuntu-6.10-server-amd64.iso and is the same problem
[04:51] <Judicata> gaspipe1: if that's what is left. yep.
[04:51] <keknehv> break_: Yes, start by defragmenting your windows partition
[04:51] <D7k> I wonder if any programmers pop an e, listen to dance music and get coding
[04:51] <gaspipe1> ok now what
[04:51] <Kazero> Ok, who wants to try and explain swap partitons to me? How big should it be?
[04:51] <break_> haha, its defragged
[04:51] <gaspipe1> >judicata hit apply?
[04:51] <volmarias> mag_: Are the CDs good? Did you check the md5?
[04:52] <EDinNY> WARNING: Current functionality level = 8, recommended = 9
[04:52] <ubuntu> EdinNy man i try it and it work
[04:52] <break_> keknehv, do you know much about windows??
[04:52] <keknehv> break_: Yes
[04:52] <break_> im kind of worried about something with my drive
[04:52] <volmarias> Kazero: As big as you want, but a good rule of thumb is 2x as large as the amount of memory you have
[04:52] <break_> according to o&o defrag, my MFT reserved area was huge before, but its been gradually getting smaller
[04:52] <Judicata> gaspipe1: yep.  double check the checklist to make sure it isn't deleting your big sda partition (don't worry, it isn't, but just double check).
[04:52] <Kazero> So its the same as a page file
[04:52] <bronze_0_1> Kazero: swap size needs depend on the type of service the system is providing
[04:52] <EDinNY> ubuntu, WARNING: Local version: 0.88.4 Recommended version: 0.88.7
[04:52] <Kazero> Gotcha
[04:52] <arlocita> wastrel - you still there?
[04:52] <break_> now on boot windows says the drive needs to be checked for errors
[04:52] <Kazero> I have a 500mb partition already, so ill just use that
[04:52] <ubuntu> EdinNy Man you need to update him
[04:53] <break_> last time this happened to me, chkdsk or whatever screwed the drive over and i lost everything
[04:53] <psplatter> Flannel: so I burned the cd at 4x, same problem as before; It keeps going to a blue screen with grey text bar at the bottom after finishing the hardware scan
[04:53] <sikumkum> gawd.. it has been a week.. and the problem still unsolved
[04:53] <EDinNY> ubuntu, I did, using adept updater
[04:53] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok now what?
[04:53] <keknehv> break_: What FS is your windows partition?
[04:53] <ubuntu> no update it from internet
[04:53] <camerong> hey guys im trying to set up fglrx for my monitor but when i run "sudo modprobe fglrx" it says it cannot start..
[04:53] <camerong> any help?
[04:53] <ubuntu> EdinNY i have 0.887
[04:53] <wastrel> arlocita:  you're having a problem running the commands?
[04:53] <break_> i need to do something with my 120gb drive so i can back stuff up a little quicker
[04:53] <EDinNY> ubuntu, odd...why do you think that is?
[04:53] <volmarias> Kazero: It is exactly a page file :)
[04:53] <break_> and not waste as many dvd-'s
[04:53] <mag_> volmarias: keknehv sikumkum ... I chek the cd's in other pc and it seems that it's ok ! the step thet I have problems is when I chose the any option to install example install in textmode
[04:54] <break_> ntfs
[04:54] <kitche> camerong: did you reboot after installing fglrx?
[04:54] <break_> may i PM you keknehv?
[04:54] <volmarias> Kazero: The idea is that you've dedicated a partition to the swap file, so that this way it doesn't get fragmented across the drive
[04:54] <ubuntu> EdinNY something you didn wrong
[04:54] <Judicata> gaspipe1: continue with the installation. Pick the 11gb (or so) partition for the linux kernel, (probably /dev/sda2) and the smaller one for swap.
[04:54] <ubuntu> EdinNY reinstall clamav
[04:54] <mag_> volmarias: keknehv sikumkum .......it says booting the kernel... and that's it !!
[04:54] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok
[04:54] <Kazero> volmarias: I assumed it was something like that, just wanted to be sure
[04:54] <keknehv> break_: Yes, please, this channel is chaotic
[04:54] <volmarias> kazero: thus making overall access much faster
[04:54] <EDinNY> ubuntu, so I should uninstall it?
[04:54] <ubuntu> EdinNY then install it again from synaptic
[04:54] <keknehv> mag_: If you PM me I might be able to help a bit more
[04:54] <ubuntu> EdinNY yes
[04:54] <volmarias> Mag_: I don't know, I can't help, sorry.
[04:54] <EDinNY> kk
[04:54] <camerong> kitche: i rebooted, but never really installed it
[04:54] <camerong> kitche: how can i get it if i dont have it
[04:55] <Kazero> Shoot man, my processor is stuck on full load.
[04:55] <camerong> kitche: i followed the guide but it made no mention i assumed it was packaged with the install
[04:55] <Judicata> gaspipe1: where I am unclear is where to boot your bootloader when it asks, which seemed to cause your problems to begin with.
[04:55] <kitche> camerong: did you install xorg-video-fglrx
[04:55] <mag_> keknehv: I don't understand you !
[04:55] <Judicata> Kazero: what's the culprit?
[04:55] <gaspipe1> >judicata on select a disk.... 3 options are 1 erase entire disk, 2 use largest cont. space or 3 manully edit partition table
[04:55] <camerong> kitche, no il do that now
[04:56] <gaspipe1> >judicata 3?
[04:56] <mag_> keknehv: PM ?
[04:56] <Kazero> Judicata: Dont know, bios shows it at full rev
[04:56] <Judicata> gaspipe1: isn't that what we just did?
[04:56] <camerong> kitche: how do i apt-get it
[04:56] <Judicata> gaspipe1: manually edit.
[04:56] <Judicata> Kazero: type "top" in the console.
[04:56] <psplatter> I was trying to install Ubuntu Server on an old box in my basement. I boot the cd and choose Install. After running hardware detection, it gives me a blue screen with a grey box at the bottom I can type in, after a few minutes my keyboard stops working too. I tried both 6.10 and 6.06.1, but neither works. I downloaded with bittorrent, so it's a good is, and I tried burning at 4x so it's not the cd. Any ideas?
[04:56] <gaspipe1> >judicata I did the partitions in gparted
[04:56] <mag_> keknehv: PM is == permit ?
[04:56] <gaspipe1> ok
[04:56] <keknehv> mag_: Private message
[04:56] <fokuslee> if ls /etc/*release 1>/dev/null 2>&1; then
[04:56] <fokuslee> My understanding is that all the files listed will be dumped, and then clause is executed. however if ls fails to find anyfile ending with release error is sent to stdout and we just exit from ls. So i guess the if condition is not satisfied b/c ls return error? is my understanding rite?
[04:57] <mag_> ok !
[04:57] <Judicata> gaspipe1: i thought you did this part, and that's how you got to gparted, but that's ok.
[04:57] <Kazero> Judicata: Oh, I was in BIOS, not linux. My laptop felt warm so I booted to BIOS to check temps. Turns out Dell BIOS doesnt read off temps
[04:57] <Judicata> Kazero: oh, ok...that's strange.
[04:57] <mag_> keknehv: ok !
[04:57] <Judicata> Kazero: get a thinkpad :)
[04:57] <mag_> keknehv: now we have /query
[04:58] <sikumkum> any support?
[04:58] <blubb`> hi could anybody help me to grasp why my sata driver order is differently in /dev and the bios/phyiscally ?
[04:58] <camerong> kitche: how do i apt-get it
[04:58] <mag_> keknehv:  are you here !
[04:58] <ubuntu> does someone know how to implent or how to put squirrelmail into xampp
[04:58] <ubuntu> !squirrelmail
[04:58] <ubotu> squirrelmail: Webmail for nuts. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.4.8-1 (edgy), package size 566 kB, installed size 3516 kB
[04:59] <mag_> keknehv: ""
[04:59] <mag_> keknehv: "Irssi: Starting query in freenode with keknehv"
[04:59] <keknehv> mag_: Yes
[04:59] <blubb`> took me 3 tries to figure the installation of the bootloader out with the wrong device order
[04:59] <wastrel> what's xampp
[04:59] <ubuntu> xampp is Apache+PHP+Mysql+SOme other good stugg
[04:59] <leafw> is there anyway to map mounted volumes in gnome to a folder in the file system, so that programs can find the files with an absolute path?
[04:59] <ubuntu> stuff
[04:59] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok... has 4 partitions up 1) sda1 for media/sda1 (no format) 2) hdb1 for media/hdb1 (no format)  3)sda3 for swap (format) and 4) sda2 for / (format)
[05:00] <ubuntu> http://www.xampp.com
[05:00] <Judicata> gaspipe1: sounds great.
[05:00] <Kazero> Judicata: No way. This is a $1300 laptop, and I got it for $650
[05:00] <mag_> keknehv: help me !
[05:00] <mag_> please
[05:00] <mag_> :P
[05:00] <gaspipe1> >judicata now says grub will be installed to hd0
[05:01] <Judicata> Kazero: fair enough. I got a 50% on a thinkpap a few years back, and love it.
[05:01] <ubuntu> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html
[05:01] <Judicata> gaspipe1: ummm, this is where I'm not sure what to tell you.
[05:01] <blubb`> so guys any ideas ?
[05:01] <Kazero> Judicata: The keyboard on IBMs and Toshibas bother me.
[05:01] <ahhh_fosco> wow whts up with having to update ubuntu like 5 times aday
[05:01] <mevets> where does xampp put the www folder?
[05:01] <ubuntu> xampp is working with linux
[05:01] <mag_> keknehv: I think that I need to register my nick !
[05:01] <Judicata> gaspipe1: the worst that will happen, is that you'll have to got back and fix this, but it won't mess up your XP partition either way.
[05:01] <mag_> keknehv: I will come back !
[05:01] <mevets> in /var/ like apache2?
[05:02] <ubuntu> /opt/lampp#
[05:02] <ubuntu> no] 
[05:02] <gaspipe1> >judicata so leave it as is hd0?
[05:02] <mevets> oh
[05:02] <ubuntu> in /opt directory
[05:02] <Judicata> gaspipe1: go ahead an leave it on hd0.
[05:02] <ubuntu> mevets i will install invision board
[05:02] <mevets> maybe ill reinstall then
[05:02] <Kazero> Ok, I need help here
[05:02] <ubuntu> mevets what you will restart don't
[05:02] <Judicata> gaspipe1: then let it finish installation and reboot.
[05:02] <ubuntu> mevets it run with apache installed,only need to be stopped
[05:02] <mevets> huh?
[05:03] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok thanks!! and if u see me asking for you for help don't hide :)
[05:03] <gaspipe1> >judicata thanks again!!! really
[05:03] <blueprints88888> hi, i need some help with a Program for gnome called Beast.    :BSE-Warning:1: MIDI input or oputput is not available
[05:03] <Judicata> gaspipe1: don't thank me unless it works.
[05:03] <Kazero> Im dual booting ubuntu with Windows XP (Its a for-school laptop), and it wants me to prepare mount points. Should I just disable the mount points on the XP Partotion, or leave it where it wants to mount (It has reformat unchecked)?
[05:03] <kitche> camerong: sudo apt-get install xorg-video-fglrx
[05:03] <gaspipe1> >judicata u took time out and try.... thanks
[05:03] <ubuntu> mevets and in the web page have how to manul.
[05:03] <blueprints88888> where can i get a midi device or driver?
[05:04] <Judicata> Kazero: leave it and it will auto mount the partitions. don't and it won't.
[05:04] <the_rick> !sendmail
[05:04] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[05:04] <gaspipe1> >judicata when reboot, I should remove cdlive right?
[05:04] <Judicata> gaspipe1: yep.
[05:04] <camerong> kitche: thanks missd the "install part heh
[05:04] <gaspipe1> >judicata ok cool...brb
[05:04] <Judicata> gaspipe1: gl
[05:04] <Kazero> Judicata: Will is f-up my windows partition? How does it know to install to the ext3 20gb partition rather than c:?
[05:04] <ubuntu> bad send maikl
[05:04] <ubuntu> mail
[05:05] <camerong> kitche: couldnt find it it said..
[05:05] <Judicata> Kazero: make sure it has them mounting has "/media/hdaX" and not "/" or "swap"
[05:05] <camerong> kitche: do i need my alternative cd in?
[05:05] <Kazero> Judicata: There really isnat a benifit to mounting my windows partition, is there?
[05:05] <kitche> camerong: ok then you probably don't have all the repos installed like universe and multiverse
[05:05] <camerong> kitche: how do i enable them
[05:06] <Judicata> Kazero: you can also add it later by manually editing your fstab. You'll want to mount them if you want to access those files.
[05:06] <kitche> camerong: it's xorg-driver-fglrx to be exact
[05:06] <Kazero> Judicata: Ill do it later then
[05:06] <Judicata> Kazero: I mean auto-mounting. you can manually mount them whenever, regardles of what you select now.
[05:06] <fokuslee> for if loop can the if condition be satisfied by exit status 0?
[05:06] <Giant_sea_turtle>   kazero: install ubuntu first, then windows over writes grub then reinstall grub after you boot to linux from a floppy
[05:07] <camerong> kitche: it said its already the latest version that i have..
[05:07] <Judicata> fokuslee: honestly, you'd be better off in a programming channel.
[05:07] <kitche> camerong: ok you have it installed did you edit xorg.conf?
[05:07] <sikumkum> anyone could support me regarding this bug  under ubuntu 6.10 on amd64 machine? http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=32979 <-- im willing to pay
[05:07] <fokuslee> Judicata sorri im new to irc how do i find one?
[05:07] <camerong> kitche: i made some edits to disable some things.. what edit are you reffering too?
[05:07] <p47> keknehv: now I'm here ! i'm mag
[05:08] <kitche> camerong: changing the driver to fglrx instead of ati
[05:08] <Judicata> fokuslee: depnds on what client you're using. you can try /list.
[05:08] <camerong> kitche: lemme make sure
[05:08] <leafw> is there anyway to map mounted volumes in gnome to a folder in the file system, so that programs can find the files with an absolute path?
[05:08] <leafw> a-la fuse ?
[05:08] <leafw> there must be!
[05:08] <fokuslee> thx judicata
[05:08] <Kazero> Giant_sea_turtle: Thats not what I mean, but thanks anyways :)
[05:09] <camerong> kitche: thanks for ur help i think thatll fix it
[05:09] <camerong> kitche: cya
[05:09] <Pici> leafw, cant you just mount them?
[05:09] <Vigo> For my ATI Xpress 200 series I used the fglrx and it worked schweet.
[05:09] <Judicata> fokuslee: for starters, you can try #python or #programming
[05:09] <mevets> anyone know of a mouse guestures app
[05:09] <mevets> besides the compiz plugin?
[05:10] <Centaur5> I have a t-mobile edge card connecting and getting an ip address but 60% of the packets have errors, what can I do from here?
[05:10] <blubb`> i guess that a no then ...
[05:10] <Kazero> mevets: Im not sure what you mean by mouse gestures, but I hear people compare comiz to beryl all the time
[05:11] <volmarias> Centaur5: Complain to tmobile?
[05:11] <camerong> hey that didnt fix the screen problem.. who was it that was helping me?
[05:11] <leafw> Pici: yes, but then no apps can read them using an absolute path
[05:11] <_morphius> So, i'm trying to set up my computer as a router, I have dhcp3-server installed and am serving IPs, I donloaded IP tables and finally I am using firehol to try to set up a firewall and share internet between multiple computers and interfaces (one of the interfaces services a quasi-dmz). I have it set to the most basic configuration, using the example script from /usr/share/doc/firehol/examples/ , but I can't seem to get any sort of
[05:11] <_morphius> traffic through. Is there something I may have missed?
[05:11] <volmarias> Centaur5: Get a better signal strength
[05:11] <leafw> Pici: for example, java apps, whe ndoing drag and drop, get a ssh:// file path that is nonsense to them
[05:12] <volmarias> Goodbye world, time to dick with xorg.conf and break my setup :(
[05:12] <kitche> camerong: what error you getting now?
[05:12] <Centaur5> volmarias: I'm in the process of doing that.  :)  This is the only thing I have to get to work to get my dad to switch to linux.
[05:12] <Pici> leafw, I misunderstood your question.
[05:12] <Pici> leafw, I'm not sure of a way to do that, but I know its possible
[05:12] <camerong> kitche: no error.. it claism to work but fglrxinfo just spits out the thing that the wiki says means it didnt work
[05:12] <leafw> Pici: all I need is that instead of a ssh://myuser@myserver:/the/path/to/myfile.txt ... I get something like /Volume/myserver/the/path/to/myfule.txt
[05:12] <kitche> camerong: ah the mesa lib is still being used
[05:13] <leafw> Pici : I can do that with fuse, but then I don't need gnome for anything
[05:13] <bulmer> _morphius: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:13] <camerong> kitche: how to blacklist it?
[05:13] <camerong> kitche: or shall i rmmod?
[05:13] <kitche> camerong: mesalib isn't a module
[05:14] <cellofellow> how do I connect to the "Homes" Samba share with LinNeighborhood from another computer? Do I have to set a smbpassed?
[05:14] <theBishop> is there anyway to tell NetworkManager to save your password?
[05:14] <_morphius> ty bulmer. Thought it might be somehting simple like that.
[05:14] <IntuitiveNipple> If anyone needs a WPA driver for Orinoco Hermes II WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11b cards, I've just managed to build one for Edgy (2.6.17) that works. You can find it here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304217
[05:15] <camerong> kitche: do u know how to blacklist it?
[05:15] <cellofellow> btw, the other computer is DSL and can only use LinNeighborhood
[05:16] <kitche> camerong: you don't blacklist anything
[05:16] <cellofellow> hello?
[05:16] <camerong> kitche: then how do i keep vesa from running and stopping fglrx  from running?
[05:17] <kitche> camerong: change fglrx to vesa in your xorg.conf
[05:17] <Giant_sea_turtle> how do you tell if fglrx is runnning?
[05:17] <camerong> kitche: but i DONT want vesa running.. i want fglrx running
[05:17] <kitche> !ati|camerong: you followed this right
[05:17] <ubotu> camerong: you followed this right: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <camerong> kitche: yes, and did all the troubleshooting tips from there
[05:18] <kitche> camerong: if you editing your xorg.conf and added fglrx then you are using fglrx
[05:18] <foutrelis> identify f0utr3lis
[05:18] <Kazero> Hum, is it alright to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 right away, or should I fully update 6.06 before upgrading?
[05:18] <kitche> camerong: I need to see your xorg.conf can you pastebin it
[05:19] <kitche> foutrelis: might want to change your pass
[05:19] <foutrelis> kitche: yeah :D
[05:19] <kmu> for real
[05:19] <kitche> camerong: since you have something in your xorg.conf that is setup wrong
[05:19] <camerong> kitche: yes
[05:20] <cellofellow> does no one know?
[05:20] <som1> i wanna remove firefox and for some reason it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop too
[05:21] <som1> any way to just remove or atleast reinstall firefox?
[05:21] <jbroome> som1: it's a meta-package, it's ok if u-d gets removed
[05:21] <som1> ok :)
[05:21] <cellofellow> that's just the way things work. If it's not taking away anything else it's fine
[05:21] <samAA> hi, is there a command that will verify that the files installed by packages are still there with correct size and permissions, I had a HD crash and alot of files were deleted
[05:21] <Kazero> How odd, it wants to install 11mb of updates. Its going 500kb/s. How does that equal 5 minutes?
[05:22] <kitche> som1: ubuntu-desktop cna be removed just make sure to reinstall it when you upgrade
[05:22] <khoa> anyone have trouble getting wmv 9 files to play in firefox under edgy?
[05:22] <Kazero> And one file is 21mb
[05:22] <Kazero> Wierd
[05:22] <keknehv> Does anyone know how to configure the fstab to allow full r/w access by ayone?
[05:22] <keknehv> khoa: Yes, wmv is a closed format
[05:22] <keknehv> khoa: Try installing vlc with the mozilla plugin
[05:22] <khoa> i have that, but the page seems to keep using totem
[05:22] <Pelo> mplayer does wmv as well
[05:22] <camerong> kitche: http://pastebin.com/862612
[05:23] <wastrel> i like mplayer
[05:23] <khoa> like the "Totem could not play 'mms://...." ms wmv 9 (win32) error keeps popping up
[05:23] <cellofellow> mplayer will do it, and VLC.
[05:23] <khoa> is there a way i can force it to use mplayer or vlc?
[05:23] <cabldevil> hmm
[05:24] <foutrelis> :)
[05:24] <kitche> camerong: change the composite line to 0 instead of false
[05:24] <khoa> well i followed all the help
[05:24] <cellofellow> khoa: remove the Totem firefox plugin and install the MPlayer or VLC mozilla plugins
[05:24] <foutrelis> kitche: ;)
[05:25] <khoa> cellofellow: how do i do that? i tried following the wiki but it said i didn't even have it installed
[05:25] <camerong> kitche: sure. i only changed it cuase wiki said to
[05:25] <camerong> kitche: wil ldo thtough
[05:25] <kitche> camerong: I see the wiki saying 0 instead of false
[05:25] <SurfnKid> how do you apply a patch??
[05:25] <som1> where should i tell flash to put its files on? /usr/lib/mozilla or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox?
[05:25] <som1> or both are fine
[05:26] <kitche> SurfnKid: what kind of patch a .patch file?
[05:26] <cellofellow> khoa: uninstall totem mozilla-plugin something like that and install the mplayer-mozilla-plugin something like that. I can't remember the real packagenames
[05:26] <camerong> kitche: i must have read that backwards then
[05:26] <camerong> kitche: il restart now then
[05:26] <camerong> kitche: thanks
[05:26] <som1> or even better: how do i use rpm files?
[05:27] <SurfnKid> kitche, u familiar with mocp?
[05:27] <wims> !games
[05:27] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:27] <keknehv> !fstab
[05:27] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:27] <bruenig> som1, /usr/lib/firefox
[05:28] <cellofellow> !botabuse | keknehv
[05:28] <ubotu> keknehv: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:28] <som1> bruenig, alright, thanks :-) ill try it
[05:28] <bruenig> !alien | som1
[05:28] <ubotu> som1: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:28] <keknehv> cellofellow: What?
[05:28] <bruenig> !info alien
[05:28] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[05:28] <kitche> SurfnKid: nope but you cna use patch -p0 > /path/to/patch/file this has to be done in the source directory
[05:28] <cellofellow> !botabuse > keknehv
[05:28] <keknehv> cellofellow: Sorry, I saw other people using the bot like that, so I assumed it was okay
[05:28] <ubuntu> bruenig why it is quite dangeruos
[05:29] <som1> bruenig, firefox still crashes when i go on preferences. should i assume this is a problem with flash?
[05:29] <bruenig> ubuntu, ask ubotu about that, I mean the obvious answer is that it is trying to convert an rpm to a deb and think about it, if they were really so easily converted, there really wouldn't be a difference between them
[05:30] <niru> hello all
[05:30] <JNeverMind> hello
[05:30] <bruenig> som1, I wouldn't assume that
[05:30] <bruenig> !hi | niru
[05:30] <ubotu> niru: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:30] <niru> I have a user manual
[05:30] <khoa> i think i got it, thanks
[05:30] <niru> I want to keep that user manual as a help option for users
[05:30] <ubuntu> bruenig man i have converted much time from rpm to deb and no problems
[05:30] <JNeverMind> hello
[05:30] <niru> that should come on the panel
[05:30] <ubuntu> bruenig did oyu have problems
[05:31] <ubuntu> bruenig did you.
[05:31] <niru> and whenever someone clicks on that
[05:31] <niru> my user manual should open
[05:31] <niru> you might have seen how gnome help opens
[05:31] <niru> could anybody help me out how to do that
[05:32] <niru> I am in a process of creating an installable cd
[05:32] <bruenig> ubuntu, I have never done it but it seems logical that there would be issues or someone is lazy or something. If converting them was so easy, then there really would be no difference at all. I have never converted, there is always source so just go with that if there isn't a deb
[05:32] <niru> bruenig,?
[05:32] <bruenig> so I just*
[05:32] <bruenig> niru?
[05:33] <ubuntu> bruenig man you know how to source.And there have peoples who don't know how to source
[05:33] <ubuntu> bruenig for that they want to convert.
[05:33] <bruenig> yeah I get the appeal, but if it says it is dangerous and source is a for sure thing, and I know source then reasonable choice is just compile
[05:34] <JNeverMind> hello
[05:34] <manuel_> hola
[05:34] <ubuntu> bruenig compile somethime give big errors.
[05:34] <p47> keknehv: just one more... it means that I can't install if I have the desktop iso ?
[05:34] <bruenig> JNeverMind, what are you
[05:34] <wastrel> don't install an alien'ed rpm->deb
[05:34] <bruenig> ubuntu, it gives you errors, then you get the dependencies it wants. It tells you what to do
[05:35] <wastrel> it's never a good idea.  i used to alien them to tarballs and install them manually tho
[05:35] <ubuntu> bruenig but there have peoples who don't know after that when error come what to do.
[05:35] <ubuntu> bruenig why don't you make some manual.
[05:35] <bruenig> ubuntu, I am sure there are some that exist that far exceed what I know
[05:36] <ubuntu> bruenig ok where what is the page.
[05:36] <bruenig> it will say, something or other is missing, just do apt-cache search something or other and then see if you can find it
[05:36] <bruenig> that is how I do it
[05:36] <wil> i have a question about running ubuntu on mac
[05:36] <ubuntu> bruenig ok i will see it.
[05:37] <wil> okay
[05:37] <ubuntu> wil ?
[05:37] <wil> hold on
[05:37] <ubuntu> wil for what?
[05:37] <vivicrow> anyone knows a tool to make torrents?
[05:37] <bruenig> btcompletedir is in some package, I use that
[05:37] <ubuntu> vivicrow azureus
[05:37] <keknehv> vivicrow: utorrent
[05:37] <keknehv> It runs well under wine
[05:37] <Pelo> vivicrow,  I use the torrent maker with utorrent,  running on wine
[05:37] <the_rick> !maildir
[05:37] <keknehv> And uses very few resources
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maildir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <wil> okay so i want to know if my imac's speakers and slot loading cd drive will work with ubuntu
[05:38] <vivicrow> i don't like wine very much, if azureus can do the job, i will use that
[05:38] <wil> because slot loading macs dont have an eject button
[05:38] <ubuntu> wil man use MAc  os it is good System.
[05:38] <bruenig> sudo apt-get install bittornado, then to use btcompletedir just do "btcompletedir trackeradress file"
[05:39] <niru> bruenig,I asked how can I give a help menu for a user manual
[05:39] <keknehv> vivicrow: Azureus uses so much more RAM than utorrent
[05:39] <niru> somebody was telling about yelp
[05:39] <wil> so ur saying that i shouldnt use ubuntu with my mac>
[05:39] <jron> can anyone tell me why about:plugins reports that I have two flash plugins installed? both Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68 and Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31 both using the name libflashplayer.so?
[05:39] <vivicrow> thanks, bruenig!!!
[05:39] <Pennypacker> use it w sun java
[05:39] <ubuntu> wil UBuntu and Mac are brothers
[05:39] <wil> i see
[05:39] <ubuntu> wil NOthing is difference
[05:39] <wil> okay
[05:39] <IntuitiveNipple> jron: The one plugin reports it can handle different versions
[05:39] <ubuntu> wil download vmware for macos
[05:39] <som1> suppose im supposed to get a file out of this rpm, how do i get it?
[05:40] <ubuntu> wil and try it from there
[05:40] <wil> the thing is OS X is $99 bucks and ubuntu is free
[05:40] <iSeriesSysAdm> X is more mature
[05:40] <ubuntu> wil i have the pre last os image
[05:40] <ubuntu> wil on mac
[05:40] <wil> okay
[05:40] <ubuntu> wil it is 3.7gb .
[05:40] <jron> IntuitiveNipple: thank you, that answers that question :P
[05:40] <wil> okay
[05:41] <ubuntu> wil man vmware is virtual machine,if you want download it
[05:41] <som1> jron, you managed to get a not corrupt libflashplayer.so?
[05:41] <wil> alright
[05:41] <ubuntu> will ok
[05:42] <wil> i am running slow wifi so i cant download much of anything huge right now
[05:42] <bruenig> niru, I have no idea
[05:42] <jron> som1: i just downloaded the tar.gz from adobe.com
[05:42] <jron> and ran the installer.
[05:42] <som1> jron, if so, do you mind doing me a favor and dcc-ing that to me? :-) the thing im downloading from the adobe website is corrupt
[05:42] <ubuntu> wil ok no problem
[05:42] <som1> for me, anyway
[05:42] <jron> no need to apt repo
[05:42] <wims> !ati
[05:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:42] <wil> but if u have the osx image, then that would be great
[05:42] <wil> i can use another computer
[05:42] <iSeriesSysAdm> give Ubuntu 2 more major dot releases and some better apps
[05:42] <iSeriesSysAdm> and you got a winner
[05:43] <bruenig> som1, here is a simple howto I put on the forums for flash 9, just copy and paste the stuff pretty much, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990
[05:43] <wastrel> ubuntu has major dot releases
[05:43] <wastrel> ?
[05:43] <eck> does anyone know if it is possible to mount an lvm volume from the ubuntu live cd?
[05:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> 2 mpre
[05:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> more
[05:43] <jron> som1: just download it from here http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[05:43] <ubuntu> wil
[05:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> 8.0
[05:43] <eck> i am not seeing the lvm utilities
[05:43] <wil> yes
[05:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> wil be just right
[05:43] <luckyone> anyone in here know how to debug scanner issues?
[05:43] <som1> bruenig, thats not the problem, the file i downloaded is corrupt for some reason, it makes firefox crash
[05:43] <wastrel> there's no 8.0
[05:43] <ubuntu> wil try to search for image and you will find it
[05:43] <bruenig> it won't ever have an 8.0 unless it runs well behind schedule
[05:43] <som1> but ill try again, maybe itll be different :-)
[05:43] <iSeriesSysAdm> just wait
[05:43] <wil> k
[05:43] <Pennypacker> flash wil crash browser
[05:43] <luckyone> I am unable to get xsane to recognize my Epson CX5400
[05:43] <bruenig> som1, I doubt that it is corrupt
[05:43] <andre_> how do i get wine to work after its installed
[05:44] <camerong> kitche: nope, still didnt work..
[05:44] <bruenig> the next release will be 7.04 then 7.10 then 8.04
[05:44] <iSeriesSysAdm> right
[05:44] <iSeriesSysAdm> follow me
[05:44] <bruenig> so unless it falls off schedule, there shall be no 8.0
[05:44] <wastrel> feisty, g and h
[05:44] <jron> andre_: just goto the aplication you want to run and type wine nameofexe
[05:44] <iSeriesSysAdm> 2 more major releases and ubuntu will be prime time.
[05:44] <iSeriesSysAdm> System76.com
[05:44] <luckyone> this post sums up my issue... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2033789#post2033789
[05:44] <wastrel> so you're saying that (re)Hoary is going to be teh hawt
[05:44] <iSeriesSysAdm> love ubuntu
[05:44] <wil> im seeing "how to make an iso" but no actual file
[05:45] <bruenig> !offtopic | iSeriesSysAdm
[05:45] <ubotu> iSeriesSysAdm: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:45] <iSeriesSysAdm> i just think we are close but we still have some road to travel
[05:45] <iSeriesSysAdm> sure
[05:45] <bruenig> hi
[05:45] <wastrel> hi
[05:46] <wil> well, i must leave now. i will be back tomorrow. bye
[05:46] <iSeriesSysAdm> someone asked.....fine i will get back on topic. when i get off topic about mac then I am off topic
[05:46] <ubuntu> wil ok
[05:46] <jron> does anyone know how to get cnn.com's video working under ubuntu?
[05:46] <wastrel> i hate those videos
[05:46] <bruenig> I am almost certain JNeverMind is a bot, all he has said is hello over and over again
[05:46] <iSeriesSysAdm> IE under WINE with Windows Media Player might work
[05:46] <kortec> are there netinstall floppies for edgy out there? i can't find anything
[05:46] <iSeriesSysAdm> bt good luck
[05:47] <bruenig> jron, link a video to see
[05:47] <wastrel> kortec:  no there aren't
[05:47] <Pennypacker> wine is horrible
[05:47] <distro-test> hello any one awake for help?
[05:47] <distro-test> hi
[05:47] <bruenig> kortec, there is some way to do it with debian netfloppies I have read, but haven't tried
[05:47] <som1> bruenig, well, it works now :-)
[05:47] <distro-test> i got a problem whit fedora 6 as every one is sleeping may i ask herE?
[05:47] <som1> i mean, it doesnt crash ;)
[05:47] <eck> do any of the live cds have lvm2 tools?
[05:48] <Pennypacker> fc6 the best
[05:48] <duelboot> distro-test, uhhh no
[05:48] <duelboot> !offtopic
[05:48] <jron> bruenig: ok, here is a link: http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/law/2007/01/18/sot.devlin.confession.parks.cnn
[05:48] <distro-test> ok
[05:48] <iSeriesSysAdm>  go for it
[05:48] <NickGarvey> !nvidia
[05:48] <IntuitiveNipple> jron - the WMV9 codes are required
[05:49] <NickGarvey> ubotu.. talk to me..
[05:49] <ubuntu> !ati
[05:49] <bruenig> jron, works fine for me with mozilla-mplayer
[05:49] <distro-test> seriesys are u speaking to me?
[05:49] <iSeriesSysAdm> FC6?
[05:49] <Pennypacker> fedora
[05:49] <ubuntu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowtoTo
[05:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:49] <iSeriesSysAdm> who was doing the FC6 question
[05:50] <wastrel> duelboot:  did you ask in ##linux ?
[05:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <ubotu> talk: Chat with another user. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-11 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 88 kB
[05:50] <wastrel> er, distro-test ^^
[05:50] <jron> IntuitiveNipple: I have vlc installed which i thought handled wmv9
[05:50] <duelboot> !offtopic | distro-test
[05:50] <ubotu> distro-test: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:50] <iSeriesSysAdm> UBOTU- you might want to loosen up a bit? No?
[05:50] <distro-test> ok thanx
[05:50] <Pennypacker> mplayer homepage has all the codecs
[05:51] <duelboot> iSeriesSysAdm, this is #ubuntu for a reason
[05:51] <IntuitiveNipple> jron: I installed the additional mplayer codecs but i haven't yet got it to play WMVs
[05:51] <iSeriesSysAdm> i get it that you want to keep things going but you not being open like your name would suggest
[05:51] <distro-test> btw im downloading ubuntu to id like to know if ubuntu can install rpm packages whit one click to as im looking for a distro who can install deb and rmp in one click for begginers whit 1% terminal 90% click and run
[05:51] <iSeriesSysAdm> i get that thanks. I have only been on IRC since 96
[05:51] <duelboot> distro-test, iSeriesSysAdm you can go to #fedora to discuss FC6
[05:51] <GardenHose> lol
[05:52] <GardenHose> 10 full 10 years eh
[05:52] <GardenHose> time to celebrate the aniversary :P
[05:52] <GardenHose> err 11
[05:52] <ubuntu> ok bye
[05:52] <iSeriesSysAdm> i didn't want to...someone else did?
[05:52] <ubuntu> ok bye
[05:52] <iSeriesSysAdm> i told them to ask
[05:52] <wastrel> distro-test:  you can't install rpm on ubuntu
[05:52] <GardenHose> anywho does anyone know how to edit the dns settings
[05:52] <wastrel> GardenHose:  in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:52] <GardenHose> my box doesn't seem to want to read hostnames
[05:52] <iSeriesSysAdm> in Ubuntu?
[05:52] <chavo> sure you can install rpm
[05:52] <GardenHose> hmm
[05:52] <GardenHose> yeah
[05:52] <GardenHose> i think i've tried that
[05:53] <distro-test> yes but is it click and run like the deb packages i nead the more simple distro ever click and run of free ones couse i start now and scared of terminal
[05:53] <GardenHose> weird
[05:53] <GardenHose> don't have that file
[05:53] <iSeriesSysAdm> what do you all use to install RPMs on Ubuntu?
[05:53] <IntuitiveNipple> GardenHose: Is your firewall blocking DNS queries?
[05:53] <GardenHose> can anyone pm paste what it should look like
[05:53] <GardenHose> nope
[05:53] <haxality> hello, I'm having a really frustrating problem with flashplayer-nonfree
[05:53] <distro-test> im trying fedora 6 couse does both rpm and deb whit yum
[05:53] <GardenHose> resolv.conf is empty over here
[05:54] <chavo> you just apt-get install rpm, now installing rpm files is not supported of course
[05:54] <haxality> the installer works, but when it goes to download the flashplayer it says 'download failed' and aborts
[05:54] <Pennypacker> just use yumex
[05:54] <jron> haxality: just download the installer from the flash site
[05:54] <distro-test> so on ubuntu if u get a rpm u must use terminal and it's not as easy as yum ?
[05:54] <chavo> It's also used by alien to convert rpm's to debs
[05:54] <haxality> jron: ok, I wasn't sure if that was kosher
[05:54] <Pennypacker> yum install yumex
[05:54] <wastrel> chavo:  given that we're talking to a newb who wants ease of use, it's probably irrelevant
[05:54] <IntuitiveNipple> GardenHose: it needs at least one line: "nameserver a.b.c.d"
[05:54] <GardenHose> thanks
[05:55] <iSeriesSysAdm> search home.davidandkelly.com
[05:55] <iSeriesSysAdm> nameserver 24.56.130.2
[05:55] <iSeriesSysAdm> nameserver 24.56.130.3
[05:55] <iSeriesSysAdm> nameserver 216.17.128.1
[05:55] <jron> haxality: yeah, it pretty much only dumps one file in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[05:55] <iSeriesSysAdm> my resolv.conf
[05:55] <IntuitiveNipple> GardenHose: where a.b.c.d is the IP of your DNS server (or your ISPs)
[05:55] <haxality> jron: what if I wanted to install it for opera?
[05:55] <haxality> it doesn't show up in the flashplayer-installer menu
[05:55] <iSeriesSysAdm> i got mine via DHCP. You can ecit it and put in OpenDNS values too
[05:55] <iSeriesSysAdm> that is off my Ubuntu Server
[05:56] <jron> haxality: not sure what the plugin dir for opera is =( i would assume it works in much the same way though
[05:56] <haxality> ok
[05:56] <GardenHose> yeah dhcp didn't work for me so i still haven't set dns up yet
[05:56] <distro-test> i seen on deb distros u can add debian servers to get stable deb packets does ubuntu use that?
[05:56] <iSeriesSysAdm> go to opendns and get thier DNS servers and plug that in to the resolv.conf
[05:56] <iSeriesSysAdm> 207.67.222.222
[05:56] <kortec> wastrel is there a way to take old netboot floppies and make them install from the edgy repos?
[05:57] <iSeriesSysAdm> 207.67.220.220
[05:57] <iSeriesSysAdm> then do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:57] <Tonren> Hey guys, what's the story here?  I'm using a Broadcom 4318 wireless card with ndiswrapper.  Half the time I boot up, my wireless interface is eth1.  The other half, it's wlan0!  How can I write scripts like this?!
[05:57] <iSeriesSysAdm> that should do it
[05:59] <dfgas> what package do i have to install to get esdplay?
[05:59] <iSeriesSysAdm> night guys
[05:59] <iSeriesSysAdm> good talking to yall
[05:59] <Smirnov> How do I get libiec61833-dev package for dapper drake?
[06:00] <GardenHose> wewt
[06:00] <IntuitiveNipple> uhoh! he's back :)
[06:00] <distro-test> so where does ubuntu get his packets from the debian servers u add in repository?
[06:00] <GardenHose> that worked
[06:00] <GardenHose> thanks guys
[06:01] <rob_p> Tonren: Make an entry for the MAC address of your network interface in /etc/iftab similar to, "eth1 mac 00:0e:35:xx:xx:xx"
[06:01] <R0_R0> when are we going to have another ubuntu lts?
[06:01] <wastrel> distro-test:  it's not a good idea to mix non-ubuntu packages with the package manager on ubuntu
[06:01] <n2diy> apokryphos: are you still on board?
[06:01] <wastrel> whether these are debian packages or alien'd rpms or whatever
[06:03] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: who me?
[06:04] <atoponce> ok. i give up. how in the world do i play last.fm streams in amarok?
[06:05] <atoponce> everytime i try to connect, it says i need to be a subcriber, yet i am an account holder, and can listen to streams onlin
[06:05] <atoponce> *online
[06:05] <atoponce> is there a difference between a subscriber and an account holder?
[06:05] <atoponce> am i doing something wrong?
[06:05] <atoponce> any help would be great
[06:06] <wastrel> i thought amarok was a bittorrent client
[06:06] <Murchadh> atoponce, Just to rule out the obvious; there is a section in settings to enter your detail, username password etc. Have you done all this?
[06:06] <atoponce> wastrel: amarok is a media player
[06:06] <atoponce> Murchadh: yes
[06:07] <atoponce> i the userame something other than just <user>?
[06:07] <atoponce> maybe like <user>@last.fm?
[06:08] <Murchadh> atoponce, Hold on I'll check mine. brb
[06:08] <atoponce> Murchadh: thx
[06:08] <n2diy> ! /msg
[06:08] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[06:08] <the_rick> How can I keep mail sent from my server from being blocked by spam filters?
[06:09] <the_rick> Mail I'm sending is showing up in my gmail account as spam, and it won't even show up in my hotmail account
[06:09] <atoponce> the_rick: you need to look into smart hosts.
[06:09] <atoponce> ie: using your isp as your smtp, rather than your personal server
[06:10] <padkins1> hello all.
[06:10] <padkins1> is anybody using a 64 bit distribution of Ubuntu?
[06:10] <anorexicpoodle> the_rick: can the recieving server ro rdns lookup?
[06:11] <skuttle0404> newbie looking for some help getting ubuntu running on a thinkpad a22m
[06:12] <Tonren> rob_p: There's already an entry there.
[06:12] <qcjn> hello
[06:12] <n2diy> skuttle0404: what version of Ubuntu?
[06:12] <skuttle0404> n2diy: 6.10
[06:12] <padkins1> 6.10
[06:12] <Tonren> rob_p: I've only been using it for 2 days.  It's been wlan0 on one bootup, and eth1 on this bootup.  Could it be that between my first and second bootup, the mapping got added to iftab automatically?
[06:12] <n2diy> skuttle0404: Good luck, I only play with LTS 6.06.
[06:13] <qcjn> hi, i'd like a liitle help please
[06:13] <wastrel> yay
[06:13] <mneptok> skuttle0404: what is the problem?
[06:13] <the_rick> anorexicpoodle, I think so
[06:13] <qcjn> i'm on the verge of installing ubuntu
[06:13] <qcjn> almost made it
[06:13] <Tonren> !ask | qcjn
[06:14] <Tonren> ... ubotu?
[06:14] <ubotu> qcjn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <Tonren> There we go.
[06:14] <anorexicpoodle> if you are doing your own outbound SMTP and the recipient can get a valid reverse lookup then its the content thats flagging your mail
[06:14] <padkins1> how can I get a 32 bit install of Firefox on my 64 bit system?
[06:14] <jbroome> Tonren: ubotu was in the restroom. :)
[06:14] <qcjn> well it would be easier if id give you a link to a screen shot
[06:14] <Tonren> jbroome: lol.  "Where do bots go when they lag?"
[06:14] <rob_p> Tonren: Sure.  Maybe see if it stays as eth1 on future boot-ups.  If so, then I'd say that's probably what happened.
[06:14] <n2diy> Tonren: you woke up Ubotu from his nap!
[06:14] <skuttle0404> mneptok: cd boots but selecting "start or install" freezes machine
[06:14] <the_rick> atoponce, I think you are right.  I bet comcast is blocking my outgoing smtp connection
[06:14] <Tonren> padkins1: I think there's a good How-to for that on the Wiki
[06:15] <the_rick> thanks for the heads up
[06:15] <Tonren> Sometimes when I end a session or switch sessions, my display screws up: There's a solid bar of black-to-white gradient on the bottom, and the rest of the screen oscillates between black and white, above a scratchy image of what's actually on the Virtual Terminal. How do I stop this?  It looks really stupid, and can't be healthy for my eyes or the screen.
[06:15] <atoponce> the_rick: comcast isn't, most likely (i doubt they care), but the other mail services will
[06:15] <mneptok> skuttle0404: did you md5sum the ISO, and burn at </= 4x?
[06:15] <padkins1> thanks Tonren
[06:15] <atoponce> the_rick: like yahoo, msn, etc
[06:15] <Tonren> padkins1: no prob.
[06:15] <wastrel> some isp's block 25 outbound
[06:15] <wastrel> except to their smtp of course
[06:15] <Tonren> padkins1: If you're having trouble, search for "32bit chroot" on the wiki or forums.  Do you know what a chroot is?
[06:16] <atoponce> the_rick: so, if you have a comcast account, just use them as youl smtp, and you're golden
[06:16] <qcjn> it,s the last post on the forum page, if you could tell me what i did wrong
[06:16] <qcjn> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=85619
[06:16] <wastrel> it's not a good idea to run a mail server off of a cable modem anymore
[06:16] <Tonren> wastrel: Which really sucks for us web developers, who can no longer practically prototype our mail-using apps on our development laptops.
[06:16] <wastrel> too many mail admins think it's spammy.  there's lists of netblocks used for consumer cable modems and any mail that comes from one is tagged as spammy
[06:17] <wastrel> not to mention the lack of a proper revese
[06:17] <mneptok> i run a mail server off beer, insomnia, and Windows malware
[06:17] <wastrel> reverse
[06:17] <padkins1> not really, I've dabbled in linux over the years, but until recently my resolve was not as strong as it could have been.
[06:17] <n2diy> ! beer
[06:17] <Tonren> wastrel: As recently as a year ago, I managed to send an e-mail from my laptop to my Gmail account using PHP's mail() function and a free SMTP server.
[06:17] <atoponce> wastrel: *if* using your own server as the smtp. use your isp, and your good
[06:17] <anorexicpoodle> mneptok, can i get a copy of that distro
[06:17] <the_rick> can you use dpkg-reconfigure postfix to configure it to use a smart host?
[06:17] <bushblows> mneptok: lol
[06:17] <atoponce> that's the whole reason for smart-hosts
[06:17] <atoponce> the_rick: yes
[06:17] <riotkittie> mmm. beer, insomnia, malware. tasty.
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Tonren> padkins1: That's OK.  chroot is kind of an obscure thing.  btw, in an IRC chat, you should prepend a message for someone with their nickname, like I've done here.  Many of us have our IRC clients set up to beep when our name is mentioned.
[06:18] <wastrel> yes yes, smarthost is what i do anymore
[06:18] <skuttle0404> mneptok: ubuntu never loads, is there any way of turning on additional debbugging so I can tell where it is gettings stuck?
[06:18] <Tonren> padkins1: Anyway, chroot is short for "change root".  It's when you install the 32bit kernel *as well as* the 64bit kernel, and then you tell applications to pretend that the 32bit root is the real root.
[06:18] <padkins1> Tonren: Like this?
[06:18] <Tonren> padkins1: Exactly.
[06:18] <atoponce> Murchadh: anything?
[06:18] <Tonren> padkins1: Depending on your client, you may be able to type a few characters of the person's nickname, then hit "tab" to complete it automatically.
[06:19] <n2diy> ! insomnia
[06:19] <Tonren> padkins1: By the way, I urge you to use 32bit Ubuntu whether or not you have a 64bit processor.
[06:19] <padkins1> Tonren, okay, I see how that works.  btw I'm using Xchat
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about insomnia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <Smirnov> Tonren: rawr, i use pure 64-bit ubuntu and i like it
[06:19] <padkins1> Tonren, why?
[06:19] <Tonren> padkins1: I'm running 32bit ubuntu on my AMD Turion 64 processor right now.  It's running extremely fast and I've never had problems using 32bit on 64bit.
[06:19] <qcjn> Excuse me tonren or uboyu
[06:20] <Tonren> padkins1: 64bit gave me no end of trouble.  Nothing worked, there were no packages for anything.  Most notably, Flash doesn't work in 64bit yet.
[06:20] <Tonren> qcjn: Yes?
[06:20] <qcjn> could you please see that
[06:20] <qcjn> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=85619
[06:20] <padkins1> Tonren, then why have a 64 bit processor?
[06:20] <qcjn> last on this forum
[06:20] <qcjn> screen shots
[06:20] <Tonren> padkins1: lol, when I bought the laptop, I didn't realize how freakin' useless they were!
[06:20] <wims> hmmm my Xorg is using like 85% of the cpu tiome
[06:20] <wims> thats way too much isnt it ?
[06:21] <Tonren> padkins1: I sat down and thought about it for a while, though.  I mean, you should too.  Think about it.  "64bit" just means that every bit of data being sent here-and-there on your computer is twice as large as normal.  How is that an advantage, exactly?
[06:21] <craigbass1976> How do I install MySQL?  I'm writing an OO tutorial and am not on my Ubuntu box.  Is it apt-get install mysql ?
[06:21] <riotkittie> 85 does seem a bit excessive
[06:21] <Tonren> craigbass1976: mysql-server
[06:21] <padkins1> Tonren, I got caught up in processor envy. More is better and so on.  I have an AMD fx-53
[06:21] <Tonren> craigbass1976: or mysql-server-5.0
[06:21] <craigbass1976> Tonren, thanks
[06:22] <thirith_> Dear all
[06:22] <thirith_> i just start up Ubuntu
[06:22] <n2diy> riotkittie: ok the poor bot knows nothing about beer or insomnias. Now, a trivia question for you. How can you display a current calendar, with three keystrokes?
[06:22] <Tonren> padkins1: I realized that it's not processor speed you really want, it's MEMORY
[06:22] <thirith_> the new user in ubuntu
[06:22] <craigbass1976> Tonren, is that all there is to it?  root (or a regular user sudoing) can type mysql and be in the mysql prompt after that apt command?
[06:22] <padkins1> Tonren, Okay, well, I got that too.
[06:22] <Tonren> padkins1: My friend's box has 1.2 GHz but 2 gigs of memory.  It's blazing fast compared to my 1.8GHz with 768megs.
[06:23] <Tonren> craigbass1976: Uh, I'm not sure.  For safety I'd do sudo aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client mysql-common
[06:23] <Tonren> craigbass1976: Then you'd need to make sure mysql was running, then you'd need to do some kind of hocus-pocus to set up a non-root account, unless you're root.
[06:23] <Tonren> craigbass1976: THEN `mysql` would work.
[06:23] <qcjn> is anyone free to take a look at my installation problem
[06:23] <craigbass1976> qcjn, what's up?
[06:23] <riotkittie> n2diy:  i do it with n, o , and enter ... but i have cal aliased to mo :P
[06:24] <thirith_> what is the link to the package of Ubuntu that i can add for source.list?
[06:24] <riotkittie> errr m, not n
[06:24] <Tonren> !fr | qcjn
[06:24] <ubotu> qcjn: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:24] <qcjn> ok where
[06:24] <riotkittie> then again, i dont know why i bothered. its not like aliasing it had a point :p
[06:24] <padkins1> Tonren, thanks.  Since I'm just starting fresh (about a week ago) I can give another try with the 32 bit distribution.  After all, all of the crap that I've put up with windows, it's the least I could do.
[06:24] <MacLinuxMaster> Hi, sorry if this is not the right place. I want to know how to change my fonts in `idle` python ide
[06:24] <qcjn> thats on exodus
[06:24] <riotkittie> i think i just went alias crazy one night. heh.
[06:25] <EnsignRedshirt> Could who is using firefox 1.5 do me a favor and try acces this page: http://cu.colgate.edu  I am running dapper with ff1.5, and when I go there, firefox crashes.
[06:25] <Tonren> thirith_: You can probably just un-comment the lines that include the words "multiverse" and "universe" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <blanky> guys, if I'm using vnc but port 5900 is blocked, can i accept connections on port 80 since it's typically open (assuming it is open)
[06:25] <EnsignRedshirt> s/Could/Could someone/
[06:25] <n2diy> riotkittie: ok.
[06:25] <Tonren> padkins1: Definitely use 32bit.  Also, I highly recommend Kubuntu (KDE).   I used Gnome for a year and switched to KDE two days ago, and so far I'm very pleased.
[06:25] <thirith_> Tonren: but i can not fine the package of lib.....
[06:25] <riotkittie> KDE is too ... ehhh... KDE-ish.
[06:25] <Tonren> thirith_: Sorry, I didn't understand that.
[06:26] <Lierodeath> How would I go about installing the "OpenGL libraries" on a newish install of 6.10?
[06:26] <thirith_> sorry
[06:26] <MacLinuxMaster> `Idle` is in python tk interface
[06:26] <Tonren> riotkittie: I thought so, too!  I swear.  I mean, come on.  Everything starts or ends with K?  That's obsessive, bordering on cultish.
[06:26] <blanky> anyone?
[06:26] <Tonren> riotkittie: And the whole "It's sort of windows but not really" thing.  It's just weird.  But I've configured it to my liking and I'm really enjoying it.
[06:26] <Tonren> Sometimes when I end a session or switch sessions, my display screws up: There's a solid bar of black-to-white gradient on the bottom, and the rest of the screen oscillates between black and white, above a scratchy image of what's actually on the Virtual Terminal. How do I stop this?  It looks really stupid, and can't be healthy for my eyes or the screen.
[06:26] <thirith_> Tonren: i want to install the apache but there is not package for it in that link.
[06:27] <EnsignRedshirt> riotkittie: It always a bit to cartoonish for me... but I may eventually switch to it anyway.
[06:27] <Tonren> thirith_: What do you mean by "link"?
[06:27] <padkins1> Tonren, I'll have to wait on that, over the years, I have a fondness for Gnome.  It may be a twisted sick fondness, but It's my fondness.
[06:27] <EnsignRedshirt> s/always/always seemed/
[06:27] <Tonren> padkins1: I understand.  What do you like about it, in particular?
[06:27] <blanky> guys, if I'm using vnc but port 5900 is blocked, can i accept connections on port 80 since it's typically open (assuming it is open)
[06:27] <thirith_> Toren: mirror or ftp to the package.
[06:27] <riotkittie> Tonren: i do think its a nice desktop environment, but its just a bit too ... busy [?]  for my tastes
[06:27] <Tonren> padkins1: Most of it was pretty simple.  I was a fan of that.
[06:27] <Tonren> riotkittie: Busy?  I think I could see why you'd say that.  You mean in terms of configuration options, right?
[06:28] <MacLinuxMaster> Nobody here has problems with Tk apps ?
[06:28] <padkins1> Tonren, the overall look and feel.  but then again looking at where I started, is anything way out of line?
[06:28] <wastrel> blanky:  presumably there's some config file sitting under /etc/ somewhere that has the listen port config line for your vnc server
[06:28] <blanky> wastrel: yes, assuming I change that, the question is if I can change it to port 80 since that's typically not blocked
[06:28] <wastrel> where did you star?
[06:28] <wastrel> t
[06:28] <blanky> sorry?
[06:29] <riotkittie> in terms of everything. it's too... shiny. :P
[06:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Could someone check to see if this page crashes your firefox: http://cu.colgate.edu
[06:29] <Tonren> riotkittie: You can change that, you know.
[06:29] <Tonren> riotkittie: Quite simply.
[06:29] <n2diy> Tonren: have you configured X? What is the horz. scan rate(s) of you rmonitor? Configure X to use the LOW end of your horz. scan rates,  or your playing with fire.
[06:29] <wastrel> blanky:  did you try?
[06:29] <Tonren> riotkittie: Also, if you're worried about unavoidable business, this is my desktop:
[06:29] <riotkittie> Tonren: yeah i know. but i've just never been big on KDE
[06:29] <Tonren> http://inspiranity.com/screenshot1.jpg
[06:29] <arrenlex> KDE is life.
[06:29] <blanky> wastrel: yes, haha, doesn't seem to be working, will try again
[06:30] <arrenlex> Tonren:  The requested URL /screenshot1.jpg was not found on this server.
[06:30] <Tonren> riotkittie: no wait
[06:30] <Tonren> My desktop is not a 404 page
[06:30] <Tonren> http://inspiranity.com/screenshot.jpg
[06:30] <Giant_sea_turtle> arrenlex: yesterday you told me to add a couple lines to my xorg.conf, from the binary install and its got DRI working .. TY
[06:30] <arrenlex> Tonren: Gah! Windows Media gradients + default background + dark theme = GAH!
[06:30] <blanky> Giant_sea_turtle: you owe him
[06:30] <arrenlex> Giant_sea_turtle: Glad to hear it! :) yw.
[06:30] <riotkittie> i tried it when i was using slack years ago, then installed the kubuntu-desktop pkg alongside all of teh others i have... and ended up logging into that session once or twice before removing it.
[06:31] <Tonren> n2diy: That sounds like good advice, but how do I find out what my low scan rate is?
[06:31] <padkins1> Tonren, I started out on a TI99 4/a went to TRS-80, spent a great deal of time on the Amiga, I really loved that machine.  Apple II, IIe, IIc, 8088's, 386,486, and so on.  Liked Beos.  First Tried Redhat 6. something.
[06:31] <Tonren> arrenlex: I have another background that I use, but I felt like this one today.
[06:31] <riotkittie> i cant really explain what it is i dislike about it, but it just... doesnt do it for me.
[06:31] <wastrel> i had a ti99 4/a
[06:31] <riotkittie> though i do use KDE when i'm running from the slax live disc :P
[06:31] <wastrel> that thing was hawt
[06:31] <Tonren> arrenlex: Also, I found a GREAT dark theme for Gnome.  It was called "Smoked Glass", and it made my computer really relaxing to look at.  Not too high-contrast, not too low.  I hate that I can't find a good dark theme for KDE.
[06:31] <n2diy> Tonren: google for your monitors make, model ,and specs.
[06:31] <Tonren> arrenlex: It took me 6 months to find a dark theme for Gnome that didn't suck
[06:31] <Tonren> n2diy: laptop.  Same technique?
[06:32] <Tonren> riotkittie: It's OK, I understand.  I was the exact same way as recently as 3 days ago.
[06:32] <chavo> In KDE you can easily change the colors of the theme
[06:32] <arrenlex> Tonren: Why don't you make a colourset yourself?
[06:32] <riotkittie> Tonren: hehe :)
[06:32] <skuttle0404> ubuntu 6.10 freezing after boot menu on a thinkpad a22m, any way of getting more debugging info to determine what is happening behind the scenes? Any other suggestions?
[06:32] <n2diy> Tonren: nope, disregard, it doesn't apply to LCDs.
[06:33] <Tonren> arrenlex: I tweaked an existing one, and it works OK, but too many things still screw up on a true dark theme.  Also, it's not the same as a dark THEME, you know?  With window borders that match and everything.
[06:33] <padkins1> Tonren,  thanks again.  have a great night.
[06:33] <Tonren> n2diy: Huh.  Okay, so what else could my problem be?
[06:33] <Tonren> padkins1: Likewise.
[06:33] <padkins1> bye all.
[06:33] <the_rick> atoponce, what are the parameters for the username and password main.cf?
[06:33] <skuttle0404> should I just use 6.06?
[06:33] <arrenlex> Tonren: Make your own. ;) It's not hard.
[06:33] <riotkittie> skuttle0404:  uhm, at the grub prompt  , hit e , edit the kernel line, remove QUIET and SPLASH  and you should be able to see where it is locking up
[06:33] <Tonren> arrenlex: My own window decorations and stuff?
[06:33] <arrenlex> Tonren: Sure.
[06:33] <Tonren> arrenlex: Well, do you have a link to a good how-to or FAQ or tutorial or something?
[06:34] <Tonren> arrenlex: I've delved into stuff like that before to make minor changes.  It looks terrifyingly hard.
[06:34] <n2diy> Tonren: I don't know, I'm a CRT/TV guy, LCDs are a different animal.
[06:34] <skuttle0404> riotkittie: thanks
[06:34] <atoponce> the_rick: ?
[06:34] <arrenlex> Tonren: Actually, nevermind... the first result on google has lots of c++ code. :(
[06:34] <Tonren> arrenlex: Also, kde-look.org and gnome-look.org terrify me.  Half the time I don't know what I'm downloading, and another 45% I don't know how to install or run it.
[06:34] <atoponce> the_rick: i don't remember a username/pass for main.cf
[06:34] <riotkittie> i think ive found one dark theme for gnome that is, at best, ok. but none that make me go "yaay!"
[06:34] <Tonren> n2diy: Fair enough.  I can't survive without a laptop... move around for much
[06:34] <riotkittie> skuttle0404: yw
[06:34] <the_rick> atoponce, As in the smtp server will require auth, right?
[06:34] <Tonren> riotkittie: Dude, try out Smoked Glass
[06:34] <the_rick> where do I configure that?
[06:34] <Tonren> riotkittie: Seriously.  It's AMAZING.
[06:35] <atoponce> the_rick: no. it won't. not if you are under the ISP connection
[06:35] <ro_> Hi I returned
[06:35] <Tonren> arrenlex: I know C and C++, I just don't feel like figuring out the crazy API for Gnome or KDE.
[06:35] <skuttle0404> riotkittie: if that doesn't work I'll give 6.06 a spin
[06:35] <arrenlex> Tonren: Could I see a screenshot of Smoked Glass? Sounds interesting.
[06:35] <Tonren> Sometimes when I end a session or switch sessions, my display screws up: There's a solid bar of black-to-white gradient on the bottom, and the rest of the screen oscillates between black and white, above a scratchy image of what's actually on the Virtual Terminal. How do I stop this?  It looks really stupid, and can't be healthy for my eyes or the screen.
[06:35] <Textboo1> I know this isn't #ubuntu-xgl , but anybody currently running Beryl may want to think twice before updating to 1.99  .. pretty common bug I just got
[06:35] <atoponce> the_rick: your ip belongs to their routers, so you're auto-identified
[06:35] <Tonren> arrenlex: Let me see if I have one lying around.
[06:35] <riotkittie> Tonren: think i have that installed. i know i downloaded it the other day.  but i rarely bother with X these days
[06:35] <ro_> The problem is my idle and other Tk applications have very bad fonts, I want to know how to change this
[06:35] <Tonren> riotkittie: What??  What DO you bother with?
[06:35] <riotkittie> skuttle0404: what version are you having probs with now?
[06:36] <skuttle0404> riotkittie: 6.10
[06:36] <arrenlex> Tonren: I made something for kde-look.org once: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=43880&PHPSESSID=31a67eabb93177682a097ee8c09ddb2a
[06:37] <Tonren> arrenlex: http://inspiranity.com/pics/smokedglass.png
[06:37] <riotkittie> Tonren:  tty1 + screen... :P
[06:37] <ro_> I'm using xubuntu 6.10, and the app that I want to look better is `idle` python ide
[06:37] <Tonren> riotkittie: Huh?
[06:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Sorry to be repeating myself... Could a friendly volunteer check if firefox crashes when you go to this page: http://cu.colgate.edu
[06:38] <arrenlex> Tonren: Meh, it doesn't do anything for me. It goes from black to navy blue... anything that dips into blue from black looks wrong to me.
[06:38] <riotkittie> go to a virtual term and type screen
[06:38] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: No. I get this: http://arrenlex.diff.be/screenshots/15961.png
[06:38] <Textboo1> EnsignRedshirt: browser not supported
[06:38] <Tonren> arrenlex: It happens.  Everyone has their own tastes.
[06:38] <Tonren> riotkittie: ... why should I do that?
[06:38] <sweeny> ensignredshirt: what version of ff are you using?
[06:38] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Whoa, site down. o_o
[06:39] <skuttle0404> riotkittie: is there enough of a difference between the 6.06 and 6.10 boot process to matter?
[06:39] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: http://68.148.168.84:8001/screenshots/15961.png
[06:39] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: no problem here with that website.
[06:39] <janders> w/hois n2diy
[06:39] <riotkittie> Tonren:  no reason. it just seemed an appropriate response to "Huh?"
[06:39] <Textboo1> arrenlex: I get the same as your screenshot btw
[06:39] <EnsignRedshirt> What version of ff are you all using.  I am using 1.5.0.9 on dapper.
[06:39] <janders> sorry - trying to find something out about my irc client..
[06:39] <sweeny> EnsignRedshirt: on edgy both ff and epiphany just give an error page
[06:39] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: 2.0.0.1
[06:39] <Tonren> riotkittie: No, I mean, why did you suggest to do tty1 + screen in the first place?
[06:39] <n2diy> ?
[06:39] <Textboo1> 2.0.0.1 on Edgy
[06:39] <riotkittie> skuttle0404: i've yet to try 6.10 so i am not sure. find out where youre locking up and perhaps its something that can be fixed.
[06:40] <Tonren> riotkittie: *OH*.  That was in response to "what do you bother with"
[06:40] <riotkittie> yes
[06:40] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex, Textboo1, n2diy, sweeny: Thanks!
[06:40] <host`> !release
[06:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:40] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: include my nick, or Ill miss your query
[06:40] <skuttle0404> riotkittie: will do, thx again
[06:40] <Tonren> riotkittie: I'm a pretty function-over-form guy, but I like having an aesthetic working environment.
[06:41] <Tonren> riotkittie: I'm an illustrator & painter (though shitty) as well as a developer and nerd.
[06:41] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: I thought I did! Does it have to be the beginning of the line?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Tonren
[06:41] <ubotu> Tonren: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:41] <Tonren> tonyyarusso: Mea culpa; mea culpa maxima.
[06:42] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: i don't think so, it just has to be on the line.(?)
[06:42] <host`> I guess the next major overhaul will be in april or so
[06:42] <the_rick> haha!
[06:42] <EnsignRedshirt> sweeny: What version of ff did you use?
[06:42] <riotkittie> Tonren: i'm on a semi ancient laptop... aesthetics are delightful but after a while, they bog my system down :P
[06:42] <Tonren> riotkittie: What about Xfce?
[06:42] <the_rick> atoponce, had the wrong smtp server in, it is working like a charm now!
[06:42] <ro_> All people around here NEVER have a problem with Tcl/Tk fonts appearance ????
[06:43] <the_rick> thanks for your help
[06:43] <wastrel> i have a laptop
[06:43] <Tonren> riotkittie: You could also use Fluxbox or somethin' like that.  At least to help you with organizing stuff on the screen.
[06:43] <oFF-beAt> what do i need to make a fingerprint reader to work?? to login into pc.. and websites
[06:43] <oFF-beAt> ?
[06:43] <EnsignRedshirt> Textboo1: What version of ff did you use?
[06:43] <Tonren> ro_: This is a total off-the-cuff suggestion, but try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" or fontconfig-config.
[06:43] <Tonren> ro_: I had shitty terminal fonts until I ran that and selected "enable Bitmap fonts"
[06:43] <Giant_sea_turtle> Tonren: can i have a link to where you download themes?
[06:44] <riotkittie> Tonren: i've installed xfce/ubuntu-desktop, and honestly, i see no gain in performance over GNOME. OTOH, xfce in my other distro is insanely speedy
[06:44] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: It may not be the version, just an error in your profile. Try launching firefox in safe mode and go to that site.
[06:44] <ro_> Thanks, I will try
[06:44] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: (firefox -safe-mode)
[06:44] <Tonren> Giant_sea_turtle: Do you use Gnome or KDE?  (That is, Ubuntu or Kubuntu)?
[06:44] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: Thanks, I'll try that.
[06:44] <Giant_sea_turtle> Tonren: gnome
[06:44] <Tonren> riotkittie: Weird.  I wonder why Ubuntu's is so bloated.
[06:44] <Judicata> it was strange...my XChat server window kept freezing - very annoying. I was going to just switch bak to EPIC or something.
[06:44] <Tonren> Giant_sea_turtle: http://www.gnome-look.org
[06:44] <sweeny> EnsignRedshirt: 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 aka current edgy
[06:44] <Tonren> Giant_sea_turtle: Be careful, it's confusing and scary.  :(
[06:44] <host`> FeistyFawn?
[06:44] <haxality> I am having a problem that seems impossible to fix :(
[06:44] <Tonren> Sometimes when I end a session or switch sessions, my display screws up: There's a solid bar of black-to-white gradient on the bottom, and the rest of the screen oscillates between black and white, above a scratchy image of what's actually on the Virtual Terminal. How do I stop this?  It looks really stupid, and can't be healthy for my eyes or the screen.
[06:44] <riotkittie> Judicata: switch to irssi :P
[06:44] <haxality> my gnome-panel freezes every time I go to log out by clicking the 'quit' button
[06:45] <ro_> Tonren: I use xubuntu 6.10
[06:45] <arrenlex> Tonren: Dude, I think that happens to me sometimes! LCD monitor?
[06:45] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: ...and thanks very much for the screen shot. That's the 'normal' browser not supported' message that I used to get.
[06:45] <Textboo1> EnsignRedshirt: I was using FF 2.0.0.1 on Edgy and I got the screen "Browser Not Supported" on that site
[06:45] <haxality> I'm at the end of my rope, I tried a complete reinstall of the whole system and it didn't fix it
[06:45] <Tonren> arrenlex: Yes!  I'm on a laptop.
[06:45] <haxality> I don't know what to do
[06:45] <Tonren> arrenlex: Isn't it bizarre?  It's also embarassing.  "This is Linux."  You know?
[06:45] <arrenlex> Tonren: I just have a monitor...
[06:45] <EnsignRedshirt> Textboo1: Thanks for checking!
[06:46] <oFF-beAt> Giant_sea_turtle, Beryl is awesome... :D
[06:46] <Tonren> ro_: I used Xfce for a while but I didn't like its file manager, and it was missing a few other things too
[06:46] <Textboo1> np, rebooting ...
[06:46] <Tonren> oFF-beAt: You have Beryl running?
[06:46] <CapNbeefy> i switched to kubuntu and i dont like it....i cant figure out how to uninstall everything and get it back to my normal gnome ubuntu settings....
[06:46] <arrenlex> Tonren: It doesn't happen on Windows? I wouldn't know; I've never run Windows on this computer for more than 5min at a time once a month.
[06:46] <oFF-beAt> Tonren, yeah this is cool..
[06:46] <Tonren> arrenlex: I ran Windows for at least 6 months before installing Linux on this laptop.  It never happened in Windows.
[06:46] <oFF-beAt> i like the effects
[06:46] <Tonren> oFF-beAt: ATI or NVIDIA?
[06:46] <ro_> Tonren: Now it have Thunar as default, many better
[06:46] <oFF-beAt> nvidia
[06:46] <arrenlex> Tonren: Weird... I don't know.
[06:46] <haxality> well, thanks for nothing, then
[06:46] <arrenlex> Tonren: What card?
[06:46] <riotkittie> CapNbeefy: did you remove gnome?  have you tried logging out, clicking sessions and selecting gnome ?
[06:46] <Judicata> riotkittie: I used to use EPIC with various scripts installed, and liked it just fine. (I could use BX too). I am still dissapointed with GUI IRC clients.
[06:46] <Tonren> arrenlex: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M.
[06:46] <ro_> I had used the old xfce also
[06:46] <arrenlex> Tonren: What driver are you using?
[06:47] <Tonren> arrenlex: I don't know.  The default.
[06:47] <CapNbeefy> riot i can still log into gnome but i want to get rid of kde and everything kubuntu installed
[06:47] <CapNbeefy> gnome crashes when i try to log into it btw
[06:47] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: That page still crashes firefox 1.5, even in safe-mode.
[06:47] <arrenlex> Tonren: What does "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v "#" | grep radeon | wc -l" say? 1 or 0?
[06:47] <oFF-beAt> Tonren, u trying to run beryl or what?
[06:47] <Tonren> oFF-beAt: I've always wanted to try it.
[06:47] <Tonren> arrenlex: 0
[06:48] <Giant_sea_turtle> oFF-beAt: haha i like cubes ill try that one
[06:48] <EnsignRedshirt> Could another friendly volunteer who is running firefox 1.5 check this page: http://cu.colgate.edu
[06:48] <arrenlex> Tonren: Hm. Not the same driver, then.
[06:48] <Tonren> arrenlex: Oh.  That must mean I'm using mesa, right?
[06:48] <ki> hi guys!
[06:48] <ro_> Tonren: I really prefer gnome and kde over xfce, but this is not my home machine
[06:48] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: i don't think so, it just has to be on the line.(?)
[06:48] <arrenlex> Tonren: Mesa isn't a driver, it's a 3D rendering infrastructure -- a port of openGL.
[06:48] <oFF-beAt> however this genome desklets is very cpu intensive
[06:48] <ki> Xfce is way better!
[06:48] <n2diy> Whoops
[06:48] <Tonren> arrenlex: `cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v "#" | grep -i radeon | wc -l` outputs "2"
[06:48] <valehru> is there a repo available for skype?
[06:48] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: no problem here with that website.
[06:48] <oFF-beAt> when i use it pc usgae never drops below 40% and at times it stays above 70%
[06:48] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: It's like deja vu all over again.
[06:48] <Tonren> ro_: I might try Xfce again some day.  Right now I'm rocking out on KDE.
[06:49] <ki> xfce =  3 second startup time.
[06:49] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: You are using 1.5?
[06:49] <arrenlex> Tonren: I know, because it matches card identifiers. I know what my commands do, thanks.
[06:49] <ro_> ki: Why ? It very instable in comparison to others
[06:49] <Tonren> ki: When I installed xubuntu-desktop, it was more like 3 minutes.  Certainly no faster than Gnome.
[06:49] <ki> what have you got to lose? xfce is 14 mb
[06:49] <arrenlex> Tonren: how often does this happen to you?
[06:49] <Textboo1> aww.. stupid Beryl update :(
[06:49] <ki> welll that is odd.
[06:49] <ro_> ri:Oh yeah, Its cause of that I use it in this old Macintosh
[06:49] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: 1.5.0.9
[06:49] <ki> for me, kde takes 10 seconds on myah os.  3 seconds on xfce.
[06:50] <ki> maybe I shouldnt consider getting xubuntu then? :P
[06:50] <riotkittie> CapNbeefy: to get rid of KDE entirely, i assume sudo apt-get remove kde* would work  ... but you probably dont want to do that until you deal with the gnome crashing and resolve that. hm.
[06:50] <Tonren> arrenlex: I was just trying to compensate for a possible mistake on your part.  I wasn't intending to impune your geeksmanship, so there's no reason to be a buzzkill.
[06:50] <ro_> ki:Its really slow
[06:50] <rob_p> riotkittie: Since you apparently use irssi, perhaps you have seen this issue... sometimes all of the text disappears except the active line.  The only way I know of to get it back to normal is to detach the screen, reset the console and then reattach to the screen.  Maybe you know of something that will keep this from happening...
[06:50] <ki> for you.
[06:50] <ki> for me it is FAST
[06:50] <Tonren> arrenlex: Tops once a day, but at least once every 4 or 5 days.
[06:50] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: Do you get the "Browser not supported" page, or do you get a login page?
[06:50] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: Standard Dapper install.
[06:50] <Tonren> arrenlex: Sometimes I have longer stretches where it doesn't happen.  It's prone to happen when I'm switching virtual terminals with Ctrl + Alt, starting new sessions, booting up or shutting down.
[06:50] <riotkittie> rob_p:  i've never witnessed that myself, sorry
[06:51] <rob_p> riotkittie: bummer... ok :-)
[06:51] <arrenlex> Tonren: Really? It doesn't happen more than once every two months for me. Also, sorry, that sounded kind of bitchy; I was trying to communicate a "don't worry, thanks for checking but it's not because I made a mistake" sort of thing and it didn't work out well.
[06:51] <ro_> Now I'm using xchat and having reaaly problems to read the posts,
[06:51] <Tonren> arrenlex: Ah, OK.  Interweb error.  Impossible to read intonations.  Sorry!
[06:51] <riotkittie> really slow is an understatement.
[06:51] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: I'm at a login page, they want my user name and passmord
[06:51] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: OK, thanks.  I'm using standard dapper too, so maybe something is screwed up in my configuration (even though ff still crashed in safe-mode).
[06:52] <millones> hi
[06:52] <Tonren> ro_: Is English your second language?  There are other chatrooms for several languages, you know.
[06:52] <Tonren> ro_: sorry to be blunt.
[06:52] <Tonren> n2diy: Don't give 'em up!
[06:52] <ro_> How I send a message to a specific user whitou typing <username>:
[06:52] <arrenlex> !tab | ro_
[06:52] <ubotu> ro_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:52] <Tonren> ro_: If you want to send someone a private message, type: "/msg username message message message"
[06:52] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: Thanks again for checking.  Looks like I have to track down that problem with my config.
[06:52] <millones> hi, somebody speak spanish here?
[06:52] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: good luck, try the schools sys admin?
[06:52] <arrenlex> !es | millones
[06:53] <ubotu> millones: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:53] <Madpilot> !es | millones
[06:53] <Tonren> millones: si, pero solamente un poquito
[06:53] <riotkittie> !es | millones
[06:53] <riotkittie> doh
[06:53] <arrenlex> *wins*
[06:53] <Madpilot> he
[06:53] <riotkittie> *wins a little later*
[06:53] <Tonren> millones: hay otros cuartos de hablar para otras idiomas, como espanol.
[06:53] <ro_> Tanks, so much. And yeah I'm still learning english
[06:53] <Tonren> arrenlex: I've been trying to figure out the deal with the garbled display thing for ages.  It's been happening ever since I installed Linux, and it only happens when I'm doing X virtual terminal hocus-pocus.
[06:53] <Madpilot> ro_, what is your native language?
[06:53] <arrenlex> Tonren: I've only ever seen it happen when shutting down the PC.
[06:53] <ro_> I speak portuguese, from Brazil
[06:54] <riotkittie> i think ro_'s english is splendid. better than most americans i've come across online. :P
[06:54] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: That will be my last resort... when I mention Linux to the sys admins there, they cover their eyes, or hold up crosses and garlic.
[06:54] <n2diy> Tonren: Don't worry about that.
[06:54] <Tonren> arrenlex: Yeah, it happens to me then most often.
[06:54] <riotkittie> americans'
[06:54] <riotkittie> err. -'
[06:54] <arrenlex> riotkittie: wtf u talkin bout. i spk good englsh wen i want 2 lyk 4 skool k? lol
[06:54] <Tonren> arrenlex: I'd really love to find out how to stop it.  Any ideas?  It's clearly an X thing, and it may be an ATI thing, but it's not a driver thing (as we've found).
[06:54] <Tonren> arrenlex: Also, I've noticed that switching virtual terminals, then switching back to the one that was bugging out, often fixes the problem.
[06:54] <ro_> riotkittie, thank you
[06:55] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: You mean they are running the system on something other the *unix?
[06:55] <Madpilot> arrenlex, leetspeek & AIMglish are kickable offenses, sometimes :)
[06:55] <Tonren> riotkittie: roofl us ameirkns OWN english.  dnot make fun XD OK ROFL
[06:55] <Tonren> Madpilot: Oops.  I have no excuse, since you said it before I even spoke.  ;P
[06:55] <mikejanss> hello all! new ubuntu user here
[06:55] <riotkittie> AIMglish!!! hahahah. Madpilot is my new hero.
[06:55] <arrenlex> Tonren: I have no idea, sorry. = / It's never bothered me often enough for me to make me want to look into it.
[06:55] <mikejanss> quick question...got the choppy scrolling thing going on...and i have no clue how to install new drivers for vid card...anybody willing to help?
[06:55] <arrenlex> Tonren: xDD
[06:55] <krinns> hi all
[06:55] <snide> Hey guys, I have followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html on how to install and setup the nvidia-glx .. once done, I typed in "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and got an error message : "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel."
[06:55] <krinns> i have ubuntu
[06:56] <Madpilot> riotkittie, not original, but I can't remember where I first saw 'AIMglish' now...
[06:56] <krinns> its dtae get out when ever i reboot my machine
[06:56] <krinns> i have ntp installed
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> n2diy: I think they are all windows.
[06:56] <realnickn> people on my linux server keep sending me "write command spam with urandom" obviously i disabled it but is there anyway to see who sent it
[06:56] <Madpilot> mikejanss, ATI or Nvidia graphics card?
[06:56] <Tonren> arrenlex: Can you think of what you'd call the behavior besides "wiggly X"?  I want to make a post about it on ubuntuforums
[06:56] <mikejanss> nvidia 6100
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Thanks to *everyone* who helped... this channel is the best.
[06:56] <Madpilot> ubotu, nvidia | mikejanss
[06:56] <krinns> and ntp is configured to egt time from ntp server located internally
[06:56] <Tonren> EnsignRedshirt: Come back any time, dude.
[06:56] <ubotu> mikejanss: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:56] <Tonren> Ubotu, you're like some kind of damn superhero.
[06:56] <Tonren> !love
[06:57] <snide> lol
[06:57] <mikejanss> thanks!
[06:57] <snide> Ubotu is a bot i think lol
[06:57] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:57] <arrenlex> Tonren: What do you mean "wiggly X"? My X doesn't wiggle... the top half of the screen stays black, and the bottom of the screen starts out with a weird white\gray pattern which fades to black over five or so seconds.
[06:57] <Tonren> arrenlex: Yeah.  I mean, okay, "wiggly" isn't the best term.  But how would YOU describe it?
[06:57] <Madpilot> Tonren, knowing how to politely poke the bot is at *least* 80% of knowing how to help here, IME...
[06:57] <n2diy> EnsignRedshirt: Wow, that is scary.
[06:57] <arrenlex> Ubotu is God.
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is God. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <arrenlex> ....sorry. xD
[06:58] <riotkittie> my X does a squiggly line kind of thing every now and then ... where its like got a tv scanline overlay
[06:58] <snide> Hey guys, I have followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html on how to install and setup the nvidia-glx .. once done, I typed in "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and got an error message : "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel." (Note: This is second spam msg)
[06:58] <ro_> This channel is very high traffic always ?
[06:58] <christian1222> howdy, does anyone know how to mount an .iso file without burning it to a cd?
[06:58] <christian1222> its a dvd iso
[06:58] <Tonren> riotkittie: Yeah.  That happens to me an arrenlex too.  I want to know how to fix it, but have no idea.
[06:58] <Tonren> ro_: Most of the time, yes.
[06:58] <arrenlex> ro_: Yes. It varies from about 750to 950 over the course of the day.
[06:58] <Madpilot> ro_, always. Often busier than it is right now, too.
[06:58] <Tonren> christian1222: Yeah.  You can use "sudo mount -o loop"
[06:58] <EnsignRedshirt> ro_: I can be pretty quiet here at 3AM EST.
[06:58] <EnsignRedshirt> *It
[06:58] <Tonren> Madpilot: You're right about the bot thing, btw
[06:58] <realnickn> people on my linux server keep sending me "write command spam with urandom" obviously i disabled it but is there anyway to see who sent it
[06:58] <chavo> christian1222, sudo mount -o loop *.iso path/to/mountpoint
[06:59] <EnsignRedshirt> ...but I can be pretty quiet at 3AM, too.
[06:59] <ro_> ok
[06:59] <Tonren> christian1222: Note that the mount point must exist before you mount it
[06:59] <riotkittie> it happens to me when i fn+f8 between my laptop and crt screens
[06:59] <christian1222> i think i just got it
[06:59] <snide> Hey guys, I have followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html on how to install and setup the nvidia-glx .. once done, I typed in "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and got an error message : "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel." (Note: This is third spam msg)
[06:59] <Tonren> riotkittie: Yeah!  It happens when I switch virtual terminals as well, and sometimes on shutdown.
[06:59] <ro_> Its normal, I take some time to read all the text, or I need to filter the posts ?
[06:59] <christian1222> Tonren: i just did that
[06:59] <millones> hi, somebody could help me with xgl/beryl?
[06:59] <snide> !nvidia
[06:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <Tonren> ro_: Most people come here for Questions & Answers, so you can just ask your question and wait for someone to type your name in a response, or keep a lookout for questions you know how to answer.
[07:00] <christian1222> Tonren: thanks, i had one thing wrong, i was using the -t option with iso9660
[07:00] <Madpilot> ro_, you'll learn to filter the traffic here, it's not that bad
[07:00] <Tonren> christian1222: Ahh, ok.  That should work out for you then; the -o thing
[07:00] <christian1222> Tonren: something I found online somewhere
[07:00] <Textboo1> millones: /j #ubuntu-xgl, they're might be somebody in there too
[07:00] <Tonren> christian1222: lol, that's the internet for you.
[07:00] <christian1222> chavo: thanks for that
[07:00] <Madpilot> millones, try #ubuntu-xgl for xgl/beryl
[07:00] <riotkittie> speaking of which, i am feeling masochistic enough to try cloning them. again.
[07:00] <ro_> Thanks, I'm new to IRC
[07:00] <Textboo1> I beat you madpilot .. hehe
[07:00] <christian1222> Tonren: what does that do? -0o loop
[07:00] <christian1222> -o loop
[07:00] <millones> thanks
[07:01] <Tonren> christian1222: I'm not entirely sure what it does.  I jus tknow that it mounts ISOs!  XD
[07:01] <Tonren> riotkittie: How would you describe it?  The TV scanline thing?
[07:01] <christian1222> Tonren: haha, if it works, dont screw with it!
[07:01] <christian1222> Tonren: thanks again
[07:01] <arrenlex> christian1222: It's the "loopback" device which allows you to mount "filesytems" from files on your computer.
[07:01] <Judicata> millones: what driver are you trying to use beryl with?
[07:01] <Tonren> arrenlex: Always showing me up, ya jerk
[07:01] <riotkittie> Tonren: i cant think of a words that do it justice.
[07:01] <arrenlex> Tonren: Sorry. :(
[07:01] <Tonren> arrenlex: lol, I forgive you, for now
[07:02] <Tonren> riotkittie: It is truly surreal.
[07:02] <n2diy> Tonren:  bottom left to top right? That is a retrace line, that wasn' blanked.
[07:02] <Textboo1> if anybody cares, my Beryl just died after the update to 1.99 .. it's happening to many people
[07:02] <riotkittie> oh dear. did i just say "a words"?  <hangs head in shame>
[07:02] <christian1222> arrenlex: thanks
[07:02] <Textboo1> so if you're at the one under 1.99 and get the "auto update" I'd skip it
[07:02] <millones> my problem isn't with instalation
[07:02] <Tonren> n2diy: It's not corner to corner.  It's just a crazy mess of oscillating lines superimposed over a scratchy image of what's SUPPOSED to be on the screen
[07:02] <Tonren> n2diy: And the bottom 1/5th of the screen is some kind of black-to-white gradient thing
[07:02] <ro_> Someone here are using a powerpc powered (or unpowered like my case) system ?
[07:02] <Judicata> Textboo1: that's scary. Mine crashed earlier, but then revived.
[07:03] <n2diy> Tonren:  ok,
[07:03] <Tonren> n2diy: I wish I knew what it was . :\
[07:03] <Judicata> Tonren: that's freaky. I don't guess a screenshot would display the problem...
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: You probably don't care, in case you are curious... Instead of using safe-mode, to moved .mozilla to mozilla.sav, and reran firefox. Then it worked fine.  Something in my settings makes firefox segfault.
[07:04] <n2diy> Tonren:  me too,
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> s/in case/but in case/
[07:04] <Tonren> Judicata: No, because it only occurs when the desktop manager lets go and X takes over
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Man, I just can not type.
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: s/to moved/I moved/
[07:04] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Oh. I seem to remember -safe-mode not being present in Linux Firefox < 2. Maybe when you thought you were running it with safe mode you actually were running a normal Firefox?
[07:04] <Judicata> I don't think it would capture the wierdness anyway.
[07:05] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Does firefox --help list any safe mode options?
[07:05] <Judicata> Tonren: what driver are you using?
[07:05] <mikejanss> terminal keeps asking for a password when i try to do something...
[07:05] <mikejanss> how do i get rid?
[07:06] <Tonren> Judicata: Um, how do I find out, exactly?
[07:06] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: firefox -safe-mode started up with safe-mode messages, so it does have the mode.
[07:06] <Tonren> mikejanss: You can add yourself to the "sudoers" file
[07:06] <mikejanss> and thats done...
[07:06] <mikejanss> how
[07:06] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: That is, it told me it was running in safe mode...
[07:06] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Oh. Weird...
[07:06] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Try turning off javascript.
[07:06] <Judicata> Tonren: ummm, there is robably an easier way, but check out your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or post it to pastebin.
[07:06] <Tonren> mikejanss: Use "sudo visudo" on the command line to edit it.  You should add the line Defaults:mikejanss    !authenticate
[07:06] <millones> my problem is: when i see a movie. my screen turns black. what can i do for repair that.?  i'm using beryl/xgl.
[07:07] <arrenlex> Tonren: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v "#" | grep Driver
[07:07] <arrenlex> Tonren: Ignore things like mouse, keyboard, wacom.
[07:07] <Judicata> millones: if you switch to metacity (or whatever) and out of beryl, does the movie play?
[07:07] <Tonren> arrenlex: Judicata: I'm looking at it in view now.  I'm using ATI
[07:08] <millones> Judicata: i've never tried that
[07:08] <arrenlex> Tonren: You're using the driver "ati"?
[07:08] <Judicata> Tonren: well, you can try switching to the fglrx driver
[07:08] <ro_> Tonren, I had enabled bitmapped fonts, and don't help
[07:08] <EnsignRedshirt> arrenlex: Disabling javascript prevents ff from crashing, but it also prevents the web page from working :)
[07:08] <Tonren> ro_: Sorry man... that was my only idea.
[07:08] <Tonren> arrenlex: That's correct
[07:08] <arrenlex> EnsignRedshirt: Which is more important? =P
[07:08] <arrenlex> Tonren: That driver doesn't support any 3D acceleration. Try using radeon instead.
[07:08] <Tonren> Judicata: Will that help?  arrenlex said he wasn't using the same driver as me, but he has the same problem.  Arren, what driver *do* you use?
[07:08] <Judicata> millones: switch out to metacity throught the beryl icon, and see if it works.
[07:09] <arrenlex> Tonren: radeon
[07:09] <Tonren> arrenlex: how do I go about doing that?  Also, I don't think I'm doing anything that requires 3D acceleration.
[07:09] <ro_> Tonren, What i want to do is change the fonts like I do in gtk, or mess with some kind of xresource
[07:09] <Tonren> ro_: You know as well as I do.  I don't know anything about fonts, really.
[07:09] <arrenlex> Tonren: Neither do I, but this driver doesn't seem to work well ;) Also, it shouldn't make any difference to you.
[07:09] <Judicata> Tonren: I use the fglrx driver without any problems (of course, I didn't have many problems with the ati drive reither)
[07:09] <ro_> Tonren, But thanks for intention
[07:09] <arrenlex> Tonren: Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver "ati" to Driver "radeon"
[07:09] <Tonren> arrenlex: How do I know radeon is installed?
[07:09] <Judicata> arrenlex: i think thats the same thing.
[07:10] <arrenlex> Tonren: It's installed. It's an open-source driver that comes in the same package as "ati" does.
[07:10] <arrenlex> Judicata: What is the same thing?
[07:10] <riotkittie> oops. i forgot that i was supposed to be toying with xorg.conf and making myself cry like a girl
[07:10] <Judicata> arrenlex: ahh, gotcha, nevermind.
[07:10] <arrenlex> riotkittie: Aren't you a girl?
[07:10] <Tonren> arrenlex: Well, ok.  You've said yourself it won't fix the crazy problem though.  :\
[07:10] <Judicata> Tonren: make sure you make a backup of your xorg.conf.
[07:10] <riotkittie> arrenlex: yes, but that's besides the point.
[07:10] <arrenlex> Tonren: But again, this happens to me once every two months.
[07:11] <Tonren> Judicata: Don't worry, I just comment stuff out and replace it.  I can always login in recovery mode and change it that way.
[07:11] <Tonren> arrenlex: Fair enough.
[07:11] <ro_> Tonren, I will try in another places, and wait more time here seeing the posts, its very good to may help in something
[07:11] <haakuturi> Does anyone know if I'm able to apt-get install The extension gd
[07:11] <haakuturi> or Imagick
[07:11] <millones> Judicata: sorry, i didn't explained well.    my problem is: when i see a movie, after 20 minutes my screen turns black
[07:11] <riotkittie> i should have married a geek and not a hippie. woe, oh woe. brb.
[07:11] <Tonren> haakuturi: I think you have to download its libraries for particular languages/projects, like PHP, etc.
[07:11] <arrenlex> !imagemagick | haakuturi
[07:11] <Judicata> Tonren: well, its just a lot easy to use "cp" to restore it rather than "vi"
[07:11] <Judicata> easier.
[07:11] <Tonren> millones: Is it because your mouse is inactive?
[07:11] <arrenlex> *prods ubotu*
[07:11] <Tonren> Judicata: Yeah, I guess
[07:11] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.10ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 724 kB, installed size 3168 kB
[07:11] <haakuturi> hrm, 'cause I install Imagemagick, but Bitweaver still tells me it's not installed
[07:11] <arrenlex> o_O wtf
[07:12] <millones> Tonren: yes is because of that.
[07:12] <Tonren> haakuturi: Maybe you need libimagemagick-bitweaver or something.
[07:12] <khermans> who needs help yo?
[07:13] <Judicata> Tonren: if you want to try the fglrx driver, which is much faster than the OSS drivers right now, you can install xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-control. Then disable the composite option (i'll pastebin the code for you), change "ati" to "fglrx" and everything will probably be fixed.
[07:13] <EnsignRedshirt> haakuturi: Is bitweaver something you are trying to compile?
[07:13] <Tonren> Judicata: Sure, pastebin away.
[07:13] <arrenlex> Tonren: Be very careful with the fglrx driver. It was coded by a blindfolded intern in Notepad as part of a hazing process.
[07:13] <PirateHead> When I plug my camera into my computer using a USB connector, it launches a GUI window to import my pictures, which is great. Unfortunately, the GUI window can only access the device if I configure it to gksudo before launching the GUI; and if I do that, then it imports the pictures as root and I have to chown them. How do I automatically make the device readable by my user before launching...
[07:13] <PirateHead> ...the GUI?
[07:13] <Tonren> arrenlex: Aren't all the killer apps?
[07:13] <haakuturi> no it's already installed
[07:14] <arrenlex> Tonren: It's not a killer app, except in the sense that it kills your computer.
[07:14] <Judicata> arrenlex: I have a hostility toward closed drivers as well, but if the OSS drive is broken, its broken.
[07:14] <haakuturi> I'm just running it from localhost/install/install.php
[07:14] <ro_> haakuturi, I think is something like php-gd
[07:14] <arrenlex> Judicata: fglrx is broken. It causes random lockups, freezes, and is finicky. A lot of people have problems with it, myself included.
[07:14] <haakuturi> php-gd isn't available on the apt-get ?
[07:14] <haakuturi> on the == via
[07:14] <mikejanss> hmmm
[07:14] <arrenlex> Judicata: Closed or not, fglrx itself is broken. Badly.
[07:15] <ro_> haakuturi,  wait, I will check
[07:15] <mikejanss> i still cant sudo
[07:15] <mikejanss> heh
[07:15] <haakuturi> thanks :)
[07:15] <kazbeel> hola
[07:15] <arrenlex> Judicata: If you happen not to have problems with it, you can thank the ATI gods.
[07:15] <Judicata> arrenlex: I've been using it. its worked fine. drivers for the ati cards are problematic.
[07:15] <kazbeel> hi
[07:15] <Tonren> mikejanss: Editing sudoers didn't take away the authentication thing?
[07:15] <Tonren> mikejanss: Are you sure you're entering the right password?
[07:15] <mikejanss> i dont know what that means
[07:15] <mikejanss> = X
[07:15] <Tonren> mikejanss: The sudo password is your own password.
[07:16] <mikejanss> wont let me type in the password
[07:16] <Tonren> mikejanss: It seems like it's not being typed in, but it actually is.
[07:16] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:16] <mikejanss> hmmm
[07:16] <Tonren> mikejanss: It's like a more secretive version of the ****s.  You don't see it, but your keyboard is working.
[07:16] <MacLinuxMaster> terminal is normal
[07:16] <Tonren> mikejanss: You should go ahead and type your password and hit Enter; it'll work fine.
[07:17] <mikejanss> sweet...it did work
[07:17] <mikejanss> heh
[07:17] <Judicata> Tonren: after installing the fglrx packages, and changing "ati" to "fglrx" in xorg.conf, add the following, and everything should work. If it does'nt fix your problem, switch back. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2122/
[07:17] <mikejanss> thanks
[07:17] <millones> my problem is: when i see a movie, after 20 minutes my screen turns black, is there something that i can do for change that time? or what can i do for avoid that black screen when i see movies?
[07:17] <Tonren> mikejanss: No prob.  That threw me off at first, too.
[07:17] <ro_> Now I became MacLinuxMaster
[07:17] <snide> hey guys, since i have amd64 x2 (can be called k8 too) i have installed    linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 .. but the message says it has been obsoleted by  linux-restricted-modules-generic. should i remove the generic one (but im currently running it .. ) or how do i switch it to the amd64-k8 one?
[07:17] <QQQ> has anyone had thad error
[07:17] <QQQ> usiong btdownloadcurses
[07:17] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:17] <spinz8r> !vpn
[07:17] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[07:17] <arrenlex> !generic | snide
[07:17] <ubotu> snide: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[07:17] <QQQ> this error only occurs when the torrent has dir strutc
[07:17] <haakuturi> any luck ro_ ?
[07:18] <QQQ> and only happens on a FAT32 partition
[07:18] <ro_> haakuturi, my machine is very busy, sorry, I'm trying
[07:18] <haakuturi> heh that's cool :)
[07:18] <QQQ> same torrent and btdowblkoadcurses works in extFS
[07:18] <snide> !amd64-k8
[07:18] <ro_> haakuturi, now I will became MacLinuxMaster
[07:18] <arrenlex> snide: You have a 64-bit system?
[07:18] <QQQ> i have checked that its not a permission issue
[07:18] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:18] <snide> !yes
[07:18] <QQQ> anyone
[07:18] <Tonren> arrenlex: Judicata: Now, my real question to you guys is, which of these three drivers will let me use my freakin' widescreen laptop legibly on an external monitor (like a projector)?
[07:18] <snide> yes
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd64-k8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:18] <QQQ> anyone
[07:19] <snide> im using generic x86_64
[07:19] <Tonren> millones: What desktop manager are you using?  Gnome?  KDE?  Xfce?
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <arrenlex> Tonren: fglrx is probably your best bet with things like that, if it works. It's the official driver and thus supports more options.
[07:19] <Judicata> Tonren: for external displays, the OSS drivers (ati/radeon) have not worked wel for me. The fglrx has... but that's my experience.
[07:19] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:19] <Tonren> millones: Try fooling around in your system options and disabling "monitor shutdown" or what have you.
[07:19] <QQQ> has anyone had that error
[07:19] <millones> Tonren: gnome
[07:19] <QQQ> trying to run btdownloadcurses
[07:19] <snide> | arrenlex yah
[07:19] <MacLinuxMaster> millones: what movie player are you using ?
[07:19] <arrenlex> riotkittie: What problems are you having?
[07:19] <Tonren> arrenlex: Judicata: Well, if that's what it takes to use my laptop in class presentations, I'll go with it.
[07:19] <QQQ> when trying to save the target to a FAT32
[07:20] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:20] <mikejanssen> HECK YES! IT WORKED!! NO MORE CHOPPY!
[07:20] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:20] <millones> MacLinuxMaster: vlc
[07:20] <QQQ> using btdownloadcurses
[07:20] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:20] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:20] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:20] <QQQ> trouble accessing files - [Errno 2]  No such file or directory:
[07:20] <arrenlex> !repeat | QQQ
[07:20] <ubotu> QQQ: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:20] <Judicata> Tonren: You might want to check out a fglrx howto, but if you follow those steps, it should work.
[07:20] <mikejanssen> this makes linux so much more enjoyable
[07:20] <Tonren> Judicata: Sweet
[07:20] <mikejanssen> choppyness made it seem so slow
[07:20] <riotkittie> arrenlex: i cant manage to clone my screen. :\
[07:20] <MacLinuxMaster> haakuturi: try running apt-cache search php-gd php4-gd php5-gd. Is php the language of that app ?
[07:20] <QQQ> !patience
[07:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:20] <arrenlex> Tonren: Oh, all driver-installing people get this handy guide:
[07:20] <arrenlex> !ati | Tonren
[07:20] <ubotu> Tonren: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:21] <Tonren> Judicata: Will figg-lurx (that's how I pronounce it in my head) let me use Compiz/Beryl?
[07:21] <haakuturi> yeah I've got php5 installed
[07:21] <QQQ> ubotu
[07:21] <haakuturi> and it does use php :)
[07:21] <QQQ> i have been here since the past 14 hours
[07:21] <arrenlex> Tonren: Yes.
[07:21] <Judicata> Tonren: Yes, via XGL.
[07:21] <haakuturi> ahah - php5-gd exists... apt-getting now
[07:21] <shamus> i finally got this wifi nic working, but now for some reason even though everythign was fine before i ran automatix, in the middle of automatix running, all of the sudden I can't open any web pages. gaim and irc work fine still. what's up?
[07:21] <QQQ> so diont gimme the patience crap
[07:21] <stia1> QQQ: i don't know the answer to your question, but have you tried searching on ubuntuforums or google?
[07:21] <arrenlex> !automatix | shamus
[07:21] <ubotu> shamus: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:21] <riotkittie> since the past 14 hours ?  odd because this is the first time ive seen you.
[07:21] <QQQ> yeah mate
[07:21] <QQQ> nada
[07:21] <Tonren> arrenlex: Judicata: SWEET.  I'll follow the threads in the forums if I want to set it up the rest of the way.
[07:22] <Dasnipa`> QQQ, ubotu, as its name might imply... is just that... a bot
[07:22] <Tonren> !easyubuntu
[07:22] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:22] <MacLinuxMaster> Try finding some preference that disable screensaver, og go to screensaver preferences and disable it
...why dont you try and see the friggin logs
[07:22] <jbroome> QQQ: DIAF
[07:22] <snide> hey guys, since i have amd64 x2 (can be called k8 too) i have installed    linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 .. but the message says it has been obsoleted by  linux-restricted-modules-generic. should i remove the generic one (but im currently running it .. ) or how do i switch it to the amd64-k8 one?
[07:22] <haakuturi> gd still doesn't exist according to bitweaver
[07:22] <QQQ> and find out if ive been here or not
[07:22] <Tonren> Dasnipa`: Oh my GOD.  For the past YEAR I've been in here, I NEVER realized that the "bot" in "ubotu" meant BOT as in RO-BOT!!!  I always thought it was just a funny name!
[07:22] <snide> 2nd spam msg, btw
[07:22] <Judicata> Tonren:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[07:22] <Tonren> Dasnipa`: My entire universe just turned inside out!!!
[07:22] <haakuturi> meh I'll restart and try again later... Thanks for your help :)
[07:22] <arrenlex> QQQ: if btdownload-gui doesn't work, get a different torrent client. It's not hard.
[07:23] <QQQ> its nnot the gui
[07:23] <riotkittie> QQQ: because honestly, you come across as rude and ill-mannered, and i cant be bothered :P
[07:23] <QQQ> its the cli
[07:23] <chavo> Oh noes the robots are taking over
[07:23] <QQQ> then dont be
 u think i care
[07:23] <Dasnipa`> Tonren, lol
[07:23] <Tonren> arrenlex: You know, it took me six YEARS to get the joke in "Crystal Method" the band's name.
[07:23] <stia1> QQQ: it's probably not the gui, but rather the application. try out azureus or ktorrent instead and see if that helps
[07:23] <QQQ> yeah ktorrent works
[07:23] <arrenlex> Tonren: Joke?
[07:23] <QQQ> but im trying to fugure out why
[07:23] <EnsignRedshirt> :)
[07:23] <riotkittie> QQQ: if you didnt care, i doubt you'd have suggested it. and on that note, have a lovely night ;)
[07:24] <Tonren> arrenlex: Crystal Meth?  As in, the drug?
[07:24] <stia1> QQQ: ok
[07:24] <QQQ> and if its a fat32 issue or not
[07:24] <Dasnipa`> crystal meth isnt a joke mate. its a serious drug
[07:24] <arrenlex> Tonren: ....oh. o_O That's not very funny.,
[07:24] <Tonren> Dasnipa`: arrenlex: I never claimed to be amused by it.  :\
[07:24] <Tonren> Of course, my friends were amused by how long it took me to get it.
 u2 ....i hope i dont hear from for a while cuz thats the only il have a lovely nite
[07:24] <MacLinuxMaster> Only I are using a PowerPC system ?
[07:24] <christian1222> are there restrictions to how large a file can be when you use cp?
[07:25] <christian1222> File size limit exceeded (core dumped)
[07:25] <shamus> arrenlex, uh oh. I've used automatix before without problem though. is there any other solution? for some reason all of my web requests are timing out, but it doesn't seem to be the DNS
[07:25] <snide> GUYS how do i check my current os version? by command line i mean
[07:25] <Tonren> christian1222: If it's too big, use rsync instead.  Even if it crashes, you can just run the same command again and it'll pick up where you left off.
[07:25] <QQQ> also the issue seems to be happening when i try to save the file on a fat32 partition
[07:25] <MacLinuxMaster> snide: uname -a
[07:25] <Tonren> shamus: What's your problem, dude?
[07:25] <snide> thanks!
[07:25] <christian1222> Tonren: really, cool, thanks again!
[07:25] <lebowski> christian1222, what FS are you trying to write it to?
[07:25] <Tonren> christian1222: You're welcome!
[07:25] <EnsignRedshirt> In fat32, can a filename have spaces?
[07:25] <MacLinuxMaster> EnsignRedshirt: yes
[07:26] <Tonren> christian1222: lebowski: Oh yeah, he has a good point.  rsync will act funny if you go ext3 --> fat32
[07:26] <chavo> snide, or try cat /etc/issue to find your distro name
[07:26] <shamus> Tonren, for some reason, although I can still connect to aim and irc networks (which is why I don't think it's the dns), whenever I try to go to a webpage (tried in multiple broswer) the request just times out.
[07:26] <QQQ> i dont think so
[07:26] <arrenlex> !version | snide
[07:26] <ubotu> snide: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[07:26] <christian1222> lebowski: i have no idea
[07:26] <Tonren> shamus: That certainly sounds like DNS to me!
[07:26] <christian1222> Tonren: how do i check, its an external HD
[07:26] <shamus> Tonren, even though connecting to irc.freenode.org works?
[07:26] <Tonren> shamus: Please pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf
[07:26] <christian1222> lebowski: how do i check, its an external HD
[07:26] <Dasnipa`> shamus, did someone block port 80 on you as a joke?
[07:26] <mustiy_> Im having the hardest time manually trying to install the latest ATI drivers on ubuntu, anyone want to help a novice out?
[07:26] <Tonren> shamus: Hmmm, it depends on what's exactly happening.
[07:26] <snide> "Linux bluefire 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux" Obviously im not using the amd64-k8 linux .. How do I switch to that from the generic one?!
[07:27] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: The mount command should show the type.
[07:27] <elyon> Anyone know how I can download v6.06 since the website is messed up?
[07:27] <Tonren> shamus: Also, can you ping google.com?  How about 64.233.187.99?
[07:27] <arrenlex> snide: -generic obsoletes all other kernels.
[07:27] <arrenlex> snide: You should, in fact, be running -generic.
[07:27] <Textboo1> !ati | mustiy_
[07:27] <ubotu> mustiy_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <snide> how come
[07:27] <shamus> Dasnipa`, don't think so ha, this problem arose in the middle of an automatix install, i was unaware it was a dangerous script to use, i;ve used it multiple times without problem
[07:27] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: which option?
[07:27] <lebowski> christian1222, use the mount command without any parameters, and see the filesystem type for your hdd
[07:27] <shamus> Tonren, alright let me try
[07:27] <arrenlex> !generic | snide
[07:27] <ubotu> snide: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[07:28] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: With no options, it will show all your mounted disks
[07:28] <arrenlex> snide: basically they decided it was a pain to maintain them all and there were no benefits.
[07:28] <Tonren> shamus: You're the first person I've met who's been screwed by Automatix. I was waiting for it to finally happen to someone while I was around.
[07:28] <mustiy_> bash ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy  <--- When i type this in a terminal, it says it cannot find theText, ive followed that guide, and im stuck at the same place all the time
[07:28] <Tonren> shamus: I used to use EasyUbuntu and Automatix all the time, but they have such a bad rap that I'm too terrified to use them anymore.
[07:28] <snide> hmm i see. thanks man
[07:28] <nothlit> !easyubuntu | Tonren, see, you're allowed to use EasyUbuntu
[07:28] <ubotu> Tonren, see, you're allowed to use EasyUbuntu: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:28] <adamonline> To copy something recursively means to keep the directory structure intact, correct?
[07:28] <shamus> Tonren, this doesn't look right, i don't even need a pastebin for my resolv.conf, it consists of two lines :
[07:28] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: It will show: <device i.e. partition> on <mount point> type <fs type>
[07:29] <shamus> "search belkin" and nameserver 192.168.2.1
[07:29] <christian1222> cool, thanks guys
[07:29] <Judicata> Ok, i'm out.
[07:29] <Tonren> nothlit: "Use at your own risk."
[07:29] <Tonren> Judicata: Seeya.
[07:29] <christian1222> i love how much you can learn everytime i come in here
[07:29] <Judicata> Good luck on the fglrx/display thing Tonren
[07:29] <Tonren> Judicata: Thanks!
[07:29] <christian1222> its great for a beginner linux user
[07:29] <nothlit> Tonren, well of course its unsupported
[07:29] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: thanks
[07:29] <christian1222> lebowski: thanks
[07:30] <mustiy_> :( I still cant get these ATI drivers to install the manual way - every guide i have read doesnt do it for me
[07:30] <nothlit> Tonren, anyways, its pretty easy to just install everything using the apt system
[07:30] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: How big is the file that you tried to copy?
[07:30] <mustiy_> :( X2
[07:30] <Tonren> shamus: Humor me for a second.  You're connected to a router, right?
[07:30] <shamus> Tonren, yep
[07:30] <Tonren> nothlit: Yeah, I'm sure it's all on ubuntuguide.org
[07:30] <lebowski> christian1222, if its vfat and your file is larger than 2 gigs, that's going to happen
[07:30] <Tonren> shamus: OK.  Can you get to your router's configuration screen?
[07:30] <dfgas> are there any deb packages for gaim for dapper?
[07:31] <mikejanssen> what = important things to install in linux when you first begin?
[07:31] <shamus> Tonren, yes I can
[07:31] <QQQ> OK ALL U DICKHEADS
[07:31] <EnsignRedshirt> dfgas: I am using gaim in dapper right now, so yeah, I would say so :)
[07:31] <QQQ> chow
[07:31] <nothlit> Tonren, its on the community wiki, dunno about ubuntuguide
[07:31] <MacLinuxMaster> dfgas: yes
[07:31] <Tonren> nothlit: Sweet.
[07:31] <mikejanssen> ive only installed gaim...evolution...xchat...what else should i install
[07:31] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: 4.2 gigs
[07:31] <dfgas> EnsignRedshirt, heh, i mean gaim2 beta5
[07:31] <lebowski> mikejanssen, vlc :)
[07:31] <Tonren> shamus: OK.  Go to the config page, and find the nameservers that the router is using
[07:31] <Solidad> my email box is called pop3 and am using evolution (ubuntu email client) to login I have to use the server pop3 not pop3.mydomain.com, which I think is wrong, my ports 25 and 110 are open, but I am not receiving email, is there a troubleshooting guide I can use that will step me through this?
[07:31] <lebowski> mikejanssen, flash 9 player
[07:31] <EnsignRedshirt> dfgas: Ah, that's different.
[07:31] <dfgas> k, i asked that wrong, lol
[07:31] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: i sent it using the gui, and dragging it over, and that worked
[07:31] <mikejanssen> got flash...
[07:31] <Tonren> lebowski: Flash 9 is out now?
[07:31] <adamonline> !vlc
[07:31] <dfgas> are there any deb packages for gaim for dapper? gaim2 beta5
[07:31] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:31] <chavo> mikejanssen, enemy territory
[07:31] <dxdemetriou_> Is there a solution for the problem "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" caused by my wireless usb adapter? the problem is that my pc crash :(
[07:31] <lebowski> Tonren, yeah.
[07:32] <Tonren> lebowski: Oh snap!  How do I get it, dude?
[07:32] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: at least we will see when i try to run it on my windows box
[07:32] <Tonren> !flash9
[07:32] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[07:32] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: Cool, but did you check the filesystem type of the drive?
[07:32] <mustiy_> After reading the guides and following instructions, i cannot get the ATI drivers to install - anyone want to help?
[07:32] <MacLinuxMaster> dfgas: I still don't find
[07:32] <mikejanssen> !backports
[07:32] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[07:32] <lebowski> christian1222, wierd :/
[07:32] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: no, i had already unplugged it and hoooked it up to my windows box when i got that info
[07:32] <mustiy_> Basically, i cant vreate the deb packages
[07:32] <mustiy_> create*
[07:32] <fokuslee> lol qqq was very impatient i just read the thing his problem is solved on the forum b/c i posted a howto too bad he quit before i get to talk to him
[07:32] <millones> here i am again.    when i see a movie, after 20 minutes my screen turns black. that only happen when i'm in my xgl session+beryl. when i'm in gnome normal session. everything is ok.   i've changed the power management preferences but i'm still with my problem
[07:33] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: If the filesystem has a 2gig limit, it might not have actually worked.
[07:33] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: it was an .iso file, and I had to run it on windows, is there a way to install a program for windows in linux running wine?
[07:33] <adamonline> How do I rename a file at the command line?
[07:33] <gdb> adamonline: $ mv oldname newname
[07:33] <nano> what's the difference between linux-generic and linux-686 and linux-386?
[07:33] <Tonren> lebowski: Weird.  I have backports enabled but I can't find the flash package
[07:33] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: the filesystem is a 40G HD
[07:34] <lebowski> Tonren, I downloaded it of the adobe's website
[07:34] <lebowski> off*
[07:34] <Tonren> lebowski: There's an official Linux version!?
[07:34] <MacLinuxMaster> millones: Do you try disabling the screensavre ?
[07:34] <mustiy_> "sh ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy" gives the following error "sh: ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run: No such file or directory" Anyone know why? I have the file right there on my desktop...
[07:34] <lebowski> Tonren, yeah, rpm and tar.gz
[07:34] <arrenlex> nano: linux-generic is a superset of all other linux architectures. linux-386 is compiled for pre-pentium1 hardware.
[07:34] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: I meant if the type of the filesystem has a 2 gig limit.
[07:34] <Tonren> mustiy_: Have you actually navigated to your desktop?
[07:34] <Tonren> lebowski: wowwww, badass
[07:34] <arrenlex> nano: linux-686, intended for pentium 4 and up, is one of the architectures obsoleted by generic.
[07:35] <nano> arrenlex, it says that linux-686 is "obsoleted" by linux-generic...
[07:35] <lebowski> mustiy_, what directory are you in now? pwd?
[07:35] <arrenlex> nano: That's right.
[07:35] <lebowski> Tonren, I know :D
[07:35] <arrenlex> nano: Okay, it's like this.
[07:35] <mustiy_> Tonren: User@User-desktop:~$ <-- thats desktop, please help me god say so :)
[07:35] <nano> arrenlex, I currently have generic, is it optimized?
[07:35] <millones> MacLinuxMaster: no, i'll try that. thank you
[07:35] <Tonren> lebowski: Oh - it's package flashplugin-nonfree
[07:35] <lebowski> Tonren, ummm .. hold on a sec
[07:35] <svfusion> anyone here using ubuntu with ATi x1600?
[07:35] <arrenlex> nano: Once upon a time there were many architectures! There were 386, 486, 686, amd-k7, and-k8, and many others!
[07:35] <MacLinuxMaster> millones: try checking if xscrennsaver is running, ps aux|grep xscreensaver
[07:35] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: i dont think it would, its pretty new, and its my friends, who uses it to transfer files to/from a mac
[07:35] <mikejanssen> how do i get rid of the authorization popups i get on some folders/files?
[07:35] <Tonren> mustiy_: Actually, it seems like your username is user, and your computer name is User-desktop, but you haven't actually navigated to your Desktops' DESKTOP in your shell!  XD
[07:36] <Tonren> mustiy_: Try typing this before you type that sh command: cd Desktop
[07:36] <nano> arrenlex, carry on :)
[07:36] <arrenlex> nano: And the ubuntu developers, lo, they looked upon these architectures, and they said: augh! We're too lazy to provide all these.
[07:36] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: im reading the file right now, so i dont think there was a problem
[07:36] <Tonren> lebowski: apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree
[07:36] <lebowski> Tonren, http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[07:36] <MacLinuxMaster> In gnome is gnome-screensaver IIRC
[07:36] <lebowski> Tonren, nice
[07:36] <Tonren> lebowski: Hehe, I'll just get the pkg
[07:36] <arrenlex> nano: So they came together, and they crafted a great work; they toiled in secret on CVS and lo, they revealed their work to the world: it was -generic.
[07:36] <svfusion> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33879949
[07:36] <mustiy_> Tonren, haha wow - words elude me as to how i feel atm.
[07:36] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: It depends how the drive was originally formatted. If you are running windows now, there might be a way to check the filesystem type, but I don't know what it is.
[07:36] <mustiy_> Thanks a bunch
[07:36] <Tonren> mustiy_: It's OK.  This stuff is easy to be confused aobut at first
[07:37] <nano> arrenlex, so generic can handle all types of architectures..but not necessarily optimized right?
[07:37] <arrenlex> nano: And they said unto the people: hark! No longer will you have to install kernels for your subarchitectures to get features you want! Here is -generic, and it provides all the features you want without significant loss of speed!
[07:37] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: ...but if it is working, great!
[07:37] <lebowski> christian1222, rightclick the drive --> properties
[07:37] <arrenlex> nano: And the people cheered, and the sun shone bright, and it was so.
[07:37] <Tonren> mustiy_: You can type "pwd" to find out what tdirectory you're currently in
[07:37] <arrenlex> nano: If you go here!
[07:37] <arrenlex> !generic | nano
[07:37] <ubotu> nano: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[07:37] <Tonren> mustiy_: Your desktop is in /home/username/Desktop
[07:37] <mustiy_> Thanks, i got it now :)
[07:37] <arrenlex> nano: You get lots of juicy technical details about exactly how optimised -generic is
[07:37] <nano> arrenlex, thanks a lot arrenlex :) that really clears it up
[07:38] <svfusion> x1600 with ubuntu anyone?
[07:38] <lebowski> svfusion, x1400
[07:38] <MacLinuxMaster> millones: You find it ?
[07:38] <Tonren> lebowski: Oops!  Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~ed gy1) ...Downloading... download failed The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[07:38] <svfusion> did you run into any problems?
[07:38] <svfusion> like parts of windows missing when you move them?
[07:38] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: i jujst gave the drive back to my roommate
[07:38] <Tonren> lebowski: Looks like I'm hittin' the website after all
[07:38] <lebowski> svfusion, yes I did, loads ... basically because I was trying to configure an external lcd without mirroring
[07:39] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: sorry guys
[07:39] <svfusion> leb, may I PM you
[07:39] <lebowski> Tonren, :D
[07:39] <valehru> mustiy_, go cd Desktop
[07:39] <mustiy_> Got it, thanks.
[07:39] <lebowski> christian1222, np :)
[07:39] <millones> MacLinuxMaster: maybe that was my problem. but i'll know it until my next movie
[07:39] <mustiy_> Just installed the ATI deb packages
[07:39] <mustiy_> Now occuring a different error
[07:40] <Giant_sea_turtle> !topic
[07:40] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:40] <lebowski> svfusion, we can talk here
[07:40] <MacLinuxMaster> millones: And you will need to wait for 20 minutes :)
[07:40] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: No problem, as long as all is well.  It still seems suprising to me that cp didn't work.  cp is so basic...
[07:40] <lebowski> svfusion, you have a better chance of getting it resolved here
[07:40] <svfusion> Here is a picture if my desktop http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33879949
[07:40] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: i had my roommate look at it with his mac, and it said 'MS DOS' under format
[07:40] <svfusion> did you see the picture?
[07:40] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: does that mean ntfs?
[07:41] <lebowski> svfusion, that's messed up .. you installed the ati binary driver?
[07:41] <svfusion> yes
[07:41] <svfusion> and the FGLRX
[07:41] <Taime1> okay, if i am installing nvidia drivers, do i want the regular one or the beta driver?
[07:41] <lebowski> christian1222, no .. its fat32 .. or probably fat
[07:41] <lebowski> christian1222, just make sure that the file indeed got copied .. comput md5sums on both, well check the file sizes first :)
[07:41] <svfusion> So you don't know what is causing it?
[07:42] <lebowski> svfusion, it would be one of the options that you'd have to disable .. glxinfo shows ATI as vendor?
[07:42] <christian1222> lebowski: well i was able to mount the .iso, so wouldnt that mean that it worked?
[07:42] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: That's a good idea... is the file size on your copy what you expect it to be?
[07:42] <svfusion> yes
[07:42] <holycow> !wap
[07:42] <svfusion> what would the options be?
[07:42] <MacLinuxMaster> Stiil having problems with fonts in Tk apps
[07:42] <lebowski> christian1222, probably .. but I am not very sure
[07:42] <lebowski> svfusion, I am not sure yet
[07:42] <svfusion> I tried to disabled dual moniter cloning but for some reason it would always reset
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <dxdemetriou_> anybody knows why is the problem "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!", and crash my pc when ndiswrapper works?
[07:43] <lebowski> svfusion, yeah, that's a pain, I tried so many different parameters to aticonfig .. but finally got it to work, when I manually edited xorg.conf
[07:43] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: no
[07:43] <PirateHead> When I plug my camera into my computer using a USB connector, it launches a GUI window to import my pictures, which is great. Unfortunately, the GUI window can only access the device if I configure it to gksudo before launching the GUI; and if I do that, then it imports the pictures as root and I have to chown them. How do I automatically make the device readable by my user before launching...
[07:43] <[set] > how do i install a diff package? i ran a dpkg -i on a .dep file and now everytime i try to install a new dep it says the following has unmet dependencies... not installable try apt-get -f install... how do i get rid of taht and install a package
[07:43] <millones> MacLinuxMaster: yeah i'll need to wait 20 minutes without touch my mouse
[07:43] <PirateHead> ...the GUI?
[07:43] <svfusion> I have spent many weeks tring to figure this out, one guy on the fourms had the exact same problem as me and got it fixed. I did what he said to but it just causes my ubuntu not to boot up
[07:43] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: interesting, its only 3.99gb, whereas the one on my linux box says 4.2
[07:44] <svfusion> you mean you have had this problem too?
[07:44] <[set] > what's the opposite of dpkg -i ?
[07:44] <arrenlex> [set] : dpkg -x
[07:44] <[set] > but it wasn't installed thoug... it needs unmet dependencies
[07:44] <lebowski> svfusion, but my desktop never looked that messed up ... glxinfo shows ATI as vendor?
[07:44] <arrenlex> [set] : Augh >___< dpkg -r
[07:44] <svfusion> yes
[07:44] <Taime1> what is the difference in the beta nvidia driver and the nvidia driver??
[07:44] <svfusion> it even says I have x1600 Generic
[07:44] <arrenlex> [set] : Sorry, I've been messing with packages too long
[07:45] <MacLinuxMaster> set: dpkg -e
[07:45] <lebowski> svfusion, and fglrxinfo?
[07:45] <[set] > listen
[07:45] <svfusion> yes
[07:45] <[set] > it won't let me install a certain package.. due to unmet dependencies
[07:45] <lebowski> you disabled overlays?
[07:46] <MacLinuxMaster> set: sorry is dpkg -r to remove
[07:46] <[set] > asks me to apt-get -f install
[07:46] <lebowski> svfusion, wait a sec .. let me take a look at my xorg
[07:46] <arrenlex> [set] : So install them: apt-get -f install
[07:46] <[set] > wouldn't work
[07:46] <Taime1> what is the difference in the beta nvidia driver and the nvidia driver??
[07:46] <[set] > but i want to do it manually
[07:46] <[set] > install teh dependencies manually.. it won't let me
[07:46] <Giant_sea_turtle> svfusion: are you using the latest 8.33.6 drivers? i hv a 1300x and its runs fine with them
[07:46] <arrenlex> [set] : Remove that package until you do.
[07:46] <[set] > when i install a new version.. it says thsi program has unmet dependeencies..
[07:46] <[set] > it wasn't installed in the first place..
[07:46] <[set] > so i can't -r
[07:47] <arrenlex> [set] : If it complains about it, it was installed. Try -r.
[07:47] <Ayabara> What can I use to do "advanced" renaming of files from a shell? Change case, substitute letters, add/remove prefixes and so on
[07:47] <svfusion> lebowski, this dude had the same problem and fixed it but it didn't work for me, take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310189
[07:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Ayabara: rename
[07:47] <[set] > it says ignoring request
[07:47] <Taime1> what is the difference in the beta nvidia driver and the nvidia driver??
[07:47] <[set] > do i dpkg -r foo.deb ?
[07:47] <Ayabara> EnsignRedshirt, hehe. now I kinda feel I should have found out myself :)
[07:47] <arrenlex> [set] : No. dpkg -r foo
[07:48] <EnsignRedshirt> Ayabara: :)
[07:48] <[set] > ok then, it's not letting me
[07:48] <[set] > its ignoring request .. says it isn't installed
[07:49] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: you were right, the external's filetype is vfat
[07:49] <christian1222> lebowski: the external's format is vfat
[07:49] <MacLinuxMaster> set:  what package ?
[07:49] <[set] >  ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386
[07:49] <lebowski> svfusion, this is probably beyond me, can you paste your xorg on the pastebin?
[07:49] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: i got the HD back from my roommate
[07:49] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: so what should I do
[07:49] <lebowski> christian1222, yeah .. I thought so
[07:49] <MacLinuxMaster> set: try reinstalling it
[07:50] <christian1222> lebowski: so what should I do?
[07:50] <MacLinuxMaster> set: and after removing
[07:50] <[set] > it won't install... cmon
[07:50] <svfusion> lebowski, I don't even have ubuntu installed right now
[07:50] <lebowski> christian1222, you want to copy it over to the vfat drive .. right? off your linux partition?
[07:50] <svfusion> i'll install it
[07:50] <christian1222> lebowski: yes, and then read it off the ext HD to my windows box
[07:50] <Tonren> I'm gonna get some sleep.  G'night all
[07:50] <[set] > i can't remove it if its not installed
[07:51] <lebowski> svfusion, oh .. that would be tough then, I am pretty sure, it would be one of those wierd options that hardly make any sense
[07:51] <MacLinuxMaster> set: sorry I don't read your previous post
[07:51] <lebowski> christian1222, well .. check the size of the file on vfat and your copy of it
[07:51] <svfusion> how much longer are you going to be here
[07:51] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: vfat's maximum file size is 4gig.
[07:51] <christian1222> yea
[07:51] <christian1222> thats how big the file is on the Hd
[07:51] <MacLinuxMaster> set: why you can't insytall ?
[07:51] <christian1222> but mine is 4.2
[07:51] <lebowski> svfusion, its already 1 here, may be another 20-30 minutes .. class early morning tomorrow :(
[07:52] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: see above
[07:52] <svfusion> oh well
[07:52] <svfusion> will you be here tommrow?
[07:52] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: Right.
[07:52] <christian1222> lebowski: mine: 4.2, vfat: 4
[07:52] <lebowski> christian1222, yeah, that's the problem, it won't copy
[07:53] <lebowski> christian1222, unless you split it up or something, but that wouldn't be very useful, unless your friend has a partition that can handle files larger than 4 gigs (ntfs)
[07:53] <christian1222> lebowski: so what would you recommend? could I copy the files seperately? they dont need to be all in an iso to install correct? just in the same directory
[07:53] <esc_ape> can someone do me a favor & send me a message to my gaim (aim account)?
[07:53] <lebowski> christian1222, does your friend have an NTFS volume? what windows is he running?
[07:53] <christian1222> lebowski: if he wanted, could he erase all data from the HD and then reformat in NTFS or FAT-32?
[07:53] <svfusion> lebowski what driver do you recommand?
[07:54] <christian1222> lebowski: hes running Mac OS
[07:54] <oFF-beAt> start up commands in "sessions" which requires root accees.. will not b executed right?
[07:54] <lebowski> vfat is FAT32 .. again .. write support for ntfs, I wouldn't trust completely
[07:54] <lebowski> christian1222, sweet .. you can do HFS
[07:55] <lebowski> svfusion, I used the ati binary driver off the ubuntu guides
[07:55] <christian1222> lebowski: will linux and mac both run that? what about windows? eventually the file has to be taken off the drive from a windows box
[07:55] <svfusion> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[07:55] <svfusion> that one?
[07:55] <lebowski> christian1222, windows wouldn't be able to read it, unless you install a tool called macdrive
[07:55] <svfusion> xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:56] <christian1222> dang
[07:56] <christian1222> lebowski: so what would all 3 be able to read? ntfs?
[07:56] <lebowski> svfusion, yeah
[07:56] <svfusion> k
[07:56] <svfusion> manually or apt-get
[07:56] <lebowski> christian1222, yes .. ntfs .. but the question is, you cannot gurantee write-reliability if you use anything other that windows to write to it
[07:57] <lebowski> christian1222, but well, its not that terrible
[07:57] <christian1222> lebowski: oh really? what about md5sum?
[07:57] <christian1222> since its an iso
[07:57] <lebowski> christian1222, md5sum? what about it?
[07:57] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: They should all be able to *read* ntfs.  I don't know much about the mac writing ntfs, and my knowledge may be out-of-date, but writing ntfs from linux used to be unreliable.
[07:57] <xinted> its not terrible at all,  i agree
[07:57] <dxdemetriou> when a pc crash, can I find somewere the reason? logs or something?
[07:58] <lebowski> EnsignRedshirt, writing to ntfs from mac and linux is not safe yet
[07:58] <xinted> ntfs3g  works exceptionally well, considering that ms never allowed anyone access their ntfs
[07:58] <nothlit> I find ntfs-3g works fine
[07:58] <lebowski> dxdemetriou, dmesg
[07:58] <MacLinuxMaster> xinted: I really can confirm
[07:58] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: ok, thanks guys, i think i am just going to try and put the files from the iso on the drive
[07:58] <lebowski> ntfs3g, that's what I was looking for :D
[07:59] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: rather than trying to change the FS, would that work to install on windows, if they were all in the same directory, not from the same image?
[07:59] <EnsignRedshirt> christian1222: That seems to be the only option.  Unless you can skip using the drive, and connect your computers via a network.
[07:59] <xinted> so the opensource community has done very well indeed to bring the write access to the whole
[07:59] <mainer> dxdemetriou: /var/log/syslog /var/log/kernel.log /var/logmessages.log ... etc...
[07:59] <lebowski> christian1222, depends on what you're trying to install
[08:00] <svfusion> sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:00] <svfusion> sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:00] <svfusion> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:00] <svfusion> that is what someone did and he said it fixed it
[08:00] <dxdemetriou> mainer, lebowski, thanks. I hope to find the problem with ndiswrapper here
[08:00] <svfusion> but that freezes mine up
[08:00] <christian1222> EnsignRedshirt: lebowski: if all else fails i can always re-create the iso on the other side (windows) right?
[08:00] <lebowski> dxdemetriou, ndiswrapper, that's one of my favorite little things :)
[08:00] <oFF-beAt> where do i put the start up commands.. besides sessions?
[08:00] <lebowski> christian1222, again depends on what you're trying to install
[08:01] <lebowski> christian1222, your friend has another harddisk in his computer?
[08:01] <christian1222> lebowski: he does, but its his laptop, i was borrowing his external USB HD
[08:01] <xinted> hehe ye lebowski, ndiswrapper. i had a hard time with broadcom 4318 series
[08:01] <xinted> saved  the day
[08:01] <lebowski> christian1222, what is the FS on his internal hdd?
[08:02] <gunny01> can you run ubuntu on the new intel macs? if so, which ubuntu archtecture do you use ? (x86 etc)
[08:02] <lebowski> xinted, I know .. this dell 1500 draft is one of the wierdest wifi adapters out there ..
[08:02] <svfusion> x86
[08:03] <lebowski> svfusion, if I recall correclty, I never removed any package while installing my driver
[08:03] <gunny01> cheers. how's hardware compatiblity
[08:03] <gunny01> (on the new intel macs)
[08:03] <svfusion> nothing that can't be fixed :P
[08:04] <dxdemetriou> lebowski, me too. but when I connect my usb wireless eth, and the drivers are installed it crash. I'll ask later if I can find the number I noted :)
[08:04] <xinted> dang! i should have read the forums. beryl  update broke  it
[08:04] <lebowski> dxdemetriou, usb wireless, I haven't tried those
[08:04] <Textboo1> yep
[08:04] <Textboo1> Beryl update = BAD
[08:05] <Textboo1> I'm downgrading right now
[08:05] <xinted> haha i just found out haha
[08:05] <xinted> well, i dont mind. i dont have it in startup either. only starts when i want to
[08:05] <Textboo1> me too .. when everything stopped working after a logout / login
[08:05] <lebowski> that cheesy thing for sure will kill my notebook after a couple of hours of usage
[08:05] <Textboo1> mine was actually working until I logged out
[08:05] <svfusion> lebowski, what would happen if I used your xorg.conf and changed everything to x1600
[08:06] <lebowski> svfusion, there is nothing x1400 specific in my xorg.conf
[08:06] <Textboo1> heh, I just installed it two days ago .. I crashed stuff like 6 times
[08:06] <xinted> its stable for me. works great atix600
[08:06] <svfusion> so, couldn't you just email me your conf?
[08:06] <lebowski> svfusion, but mine is configured to disable my notebook display and use an external display
[08:06] <svfusion> oh
[08:06] <xinted> xgl on a ZD8000
[08:06] <svfusion> you have a mobile gpu
[08:07] <lebowski> yeah
[08:07] <svfusion> i would really like to get this it work
[08:07] <lebowski> but I think I should buy a desktop soon, keeping my notebook running for weeks doesn't sound like a very good idea
[08:07] <svfusion> nope
[08:07] <oFF-beAt> where do i put some commands to so those services would start automatically? i put em in "sessions" and it did not go well.. i think caz some of them requires root access
[08:07] <xinted> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/the-google-switch-an-iphone-killer/ ooh lala
[08:07] <svfusion> do you have any idea on what setting to look for
[08:08] <oFF-beAt> wher do i put em n can some one tell me y sessions didn;t work?
[08:08] <xinted> i wish linux phones are out there like these
[08:09] <lebowski> svfusion, I am afraid I can't do much unless I see your xorg.conf
[08:09] <svfusion> if you give me 30 min :P
[08:09] <xinted> ehe
[08:09] <lebowski> svfusion, if you can attend my class for me :P
[08:09] <svfusion> lol
[08:09] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: Waht commands ?
[08:10] <svfusion> it would be worth it
[08:10] <svfusion> lol
[08:10] <svfusion> i'm so sick of messing with this
[08:10] <svfusion> what time is your class over?
[08:10] <lebowski> the class? every bit of it
[08:10] <oFF-beAt> mac i got some stuff so that my blue tooth onnection will always b ready to send n rcv
[08:11] <lebowski> svfusion, LOL, you install your linux and come back to this channel with questions, I am sure people would be willing to help
[08:11] <svfusion> i dunno
[08:11] <MacLinuxMaster> ok
[08:11] <svfusion> your pretty much the only one that knew what I was talking about
[08:11] <lebowski> no, there were people who helped me figure
[08:11] <dxdemetriou> the boot and all after messages are saved somewere from ctrl+alt+f1 and f8?
[08:12] <xinted> well, some are sleeping
[08:12] <lebowski> svfusion, and they knew their stuff ..
[08:12] <svfusion> well
[08:12] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: gnome-bluetooth don't work ?
[08:12] <lebowski> yeah, they are probably sleeping
[08:12] <xinted> time difference, as for me  i am in  the equator.the rest who knows'
[08:12] <svfusion> well thanks dude
[08:12] <xinted> 1215pm
[08:12] <lebowski> not a problem :)
[08:12] <svfusion> it would be anything to do with the refresh being wrong
[08:12] <oFF-beAt> MacLinuxMaster, well.. it only works if i restart the server
[08:12] <dxdemetriou> I have the number of problem but is nowhere on logs
[08:12] <xinted> if this place doesnt help,  check out the forum. i am sure there is a fix
[08:12] <svfusion> like 61 instead of 60
[08:13] <oFF-beAt> i have gnome server set to start auto with "sessions" manager
[08:13] <lebowski> 12:15 PM?
[08:13] <xinted> ;-)
[08:13] <svfusion> i'll posted 10 topics about this lol
[08:13] <xinted> yes indeed
[08:13] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: sorry, but waht is the 'server' ?
[08:13] <oFF-beAt> but it only works if i restart the server in command line.. which is y i need to put em somwhere to start it auto
[08:13] <lebowski> svfusion, you don't need to specify those these days, autodetection works pretty well
[08:13] <xinted> i am located 72 degrees east on channel one, 3 minutes pass equator
[08:13] <svfusion> oh
[08:14] <xinted> called Republic of MALDIVES
[08:14] <svfusion> well I have to go in the other room and install this again,
[08:14] <oFF-beAt> mac can i pvt u?? got like 5 lines to paste
[08:14] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: I don't have bluetooth but I'm trying to understand
[08:14] <svfusion> peace
[08:14] <oFF-beAt> too less for a paste bin too many for a channel
[08:14] <oFF-beAt> hehe
[08:14] <lebowski> xinted, I guess 12:!5 PM is china right now?
[08:14] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: ok
[08:15] <xinted> haha i am not in china
[08:15] <xinted> its called maldives. google it lebowski. you'd like it
[08:15] <tuskernini> xinted, maldives... wow... great!
[08:15] <xinted> with 1190 tiny islands.
[08:16] <lebowski> xinted, I know where maldives is .. wonderful place .. indian ocean, some 1000 miles south of india
[08:16] <xinted> ye
[08:18] <xinted> yes it is
[08:19] <lebowski> I wish I could get time to IRC at noon :(
[08:19] <xinted> off igo now.
[08:19] <dxdemetriou> "unable to handle kernel paging reguest at virtual address.." and other with "null point dereference", are reasons to crash the pc?
[08:19] <lebowski> dxdemetriou, that would be really serious
[08:20] <lebowski> well, not the second one though
[08:21] <dxdemetriou> lebowski, is something to do with swap?
[08:22] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: Having some difficult  ?
[08:22] <lebowski> dxdemetriou, I have absolutely no idea
[08:23] <oFF-beAt> MacLinuxMaster, i sent some pvt messages to u
[08:23] <oFF-beAt> lol ok
[08:24] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: I don't receive
[08:24] <oFF-beAt> i need to register to b able to rcv private messages
[08:24] <oFF-beAt> or send
[08:24] <oFF-beAt> MacLinuxMaster, yeah i just saw freenode server messages.. i need to b registered
[08:24] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: Its very easy and fast to register
[08:25] <oFF-beAt> i have a user.. just trying to remember the pass
[08:25] <oFF-beAt> :P
[08:26] <xipietotec> if I replace the rc.local script, when I make it executable should it be just chmod x or chmod a+x?
[08:27] <Pistahh> hello
[08:28] <Pistahh> I installed dapper server lts. What is the "official" way to install a printer in it? (No GUI)
[08:35] <savedbygrace> Hello, I was wondering if somebody was available to help me please/
[08:35] <esc> savedbygrace : whats up
[08:37] <Li`lEndian> Hi, all, i have this multimedia keyboard, and i think its causing all sorts of problems...pc went into hybernation mode several times, i cant use ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to text terms any more and its getting all DEs crashed too
[08:38] <savedbygrace> WEll, is there a way in which you can add passwords to individual folders only?
[08:38] <Li`lEndian> i am getting this option "lv3:ralt_switch" in the keyboard config section-
[08:39] <Li`lEndian> could that possibly be the problem? never seen it before, thing is- the MM keyboard is a chordless/usb. so i really prefer that to the wired keyboard.
[08:39] <Li`lEndian> any help? :)
[08:39] <riotkittie> no clue. sorry.
[08:39] <xipietotec> if I replace the rc.local script, when I make it executable should it be just chmod x or chmod a+x?
[08:40] <savedbygrace> Sorry but, is there a way in which you can add passwords to individual folders only?
[08:40] <stia2> xip: +x is fine
[08:40] <xipietotec> stia2: thankyou =)
[08:41] <Alarm> goodmorning. the appropriate nvidia drivers for linux for a p4 processor are the LinuxIA32 drivers (from the nvidia homepage)?
[08:41] <stia2> xip: np
[08:43] <Amaranth> Alarm: no, the appropriate drivers are in the nvidia-glx package
[08:43] <Alarm> Amallya,  i did install it , and after the driver installation my tv tuner dissapeared from my system. and cant fix that problem. so i think of installing the normal nvidia package
[08:44] <Amaranth> Alarm: I don't think it'll help any
[08:44] <Amaranth> but if you want to try then yes, it's the ia32 drivers
[08:44] <savedbygrace> I am sorry, but is somebody here available? Please give me a yell if you can help me please. Thanks.
[08:44] <Alarm> Amaranth,  its worth to try
[08:44] <Alarm> okie, thank you .
[08:44] <Amaranth> !ask | savedbygrace
[08:44] <ubotu> savedbygrace: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:45] <steelb> Alright, I messed up my Nvidia drivers. whenever i try to use the nvidia drivers xserver doesnt start and i get the error that it can't find "nvidia.ko" and the "wfb" module is missing. Then when I change it to "nv" it starts fine, but I can't do anything in 3d. Help?
[08:45] <Alarm> i dont knwo whats the problem with the driver anyway. it happened right after the driver installation. my /dev/video0 devices dissapeared and although the cx88 module is loaded, no card is found
[08:45] <Alarm> it is found only as a generic cx card and not as winfast leadtek
[08:47] <stia2> alarm: i think you need to set the specific tuner type for your card. i don't remember exactly how to do it, but I think you could add some information to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <stia2> alarm: or wait, maybe that's with the ivtv driver?
[08:48] <Alarm> no, not ivtv
[08:48] <tuskernini> Question: does anyone know what flash drivers to install on the live cd/dvd to make it work... the nonfree plugin does not work for me?
[08:48] <Alarm> stia2,  just leave it. i am trying to fix that the last 3 days...
[08:48] <steelb> :((
[08:48] <stia2> alarm: what card do you have?
[08:48] <Alarm> i would waste more time to try to figure out than trying to start over from the begining again
[08:48] <Alarm> winfast tv2000 xp expert
[08:49] <Alarm> cx88xx chipset
[08:49] <Angelus> hi there :) was wondering if there is a program that reads JPS files and displays the HTML output?
[08:49] <robban> I cannot find my wireless card after installation. Its detected during boot, but not assigned a name. How to get eth1 assigened to this wireless card?
[08:49] <Alarm> after installing nvidia drivers on my syste. my tv card dissapeard. i own a leadtek winfast. i could see the whole description of it in the lspci , now all i see is 02:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) . the driver was sucesfuly installed (i hope so) . when trying to run kdetv (a tv application) it tells me kdetv: WARNING: [VBIDecoder::restart()]  no permiss
[08:49] <Alarm> ion to access device . also on /dev i dont see anymore the video0 device . i use kubuntu 6.10
[08:50] <stia2> do you see any information on loading the card in dmesg?
[08:51] <Alarm> i see only. cx8800: Unknown parameter `tuner'
[08:52] <Alarm> and not the whole information about the card i was seeing before
[08:52] <stia1> can you check /etc/modules, do you anything more than just cx88..?
[08:52] <stia1> see
[08:53] <Alarm> there is not modules directory
[08:54] <SubMOA> how would one enable a program to start up when the computer starts up?
[08:54] <stian2> it's a file.
[08:54] <Erb> When Vim wraps text to the next line, it begins from the start of the line, which messes up the display of indented code. Is it possible to configure Vim so that when it wraps it begins from the tab position of first line?
[08:55] <paquita> ./links
[08:55] <Flannel> Erb: you might have more luck in #vim
[08:55] <Angelus> any programs to view JSP pages?
[08:55] <haakuturi> Does anyone know how to use Bitweaver?
[08:55] <savedbygrace> okay I am sorry
[08:55] <savedbygrace> This is my question.
[08:55] <Alarm> stia1 there is just "lp" listed
[08:55] <Erb> OK, I'll check there
[08:55] <savedbygrace> How can you add a password to an individual folder?
[08:56] <SubMOA> savedbygrace, truecrypt?
[08:56] <Myrth> how can i configure ubuntu to work with 2 monitors?
[08:56] <Flannel> Angelus: besides a web browser?
[08:56] <SubMOA> does anybody know how to make a program start up at start up?
[08:56] <savedbygrace> what is truekrypt?
[08:56] <Flannel> !xinerama | Myrth, this is one method
[08:56] <ubotu> Myrth, this is one method: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[08:56] <Bhaskar> which is powerful: kbuntu or xbuntu?
[08:57] <Flannel> Bhaskar: they both are
[08:57] <savedbygrace> I am sorry I am very new to this whole thing.
[08:57] <ciscosurfer> Pistahh: here you go >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240282
[08:57] <Flannel> !statup | SubMOA
[08:57] <Flannel> !startup | SubMOA
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about statup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: truecrypt encrypts a folder
[08:57] <ubotu> SubMOA: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[08:57] <Myrth> ubotu: thanks
[08:57] <stian2> alarm: hmm, weird. something must have messed up the loading of the module. I'm not to familiar with linux to know where (or how for that matter)
[08:57] <Angelus> yes Flannel, I would like to learn JSP and I know how to write html so I would like to know if there is a program that lets you view JSP web pages without having to connect to a database
[08:57] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: xubuntu includes xfce, a lighter desktop environment. Kubuntu includes KDE, which is the most used desktop environment on linux
[08:57] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:57] <savedbygrace> How do I check if I have Truekrypt?
[08:57] <Bhaskar> flannel:equally both?
[08:57] <oxygene_> good morning. i've got a problem with hibernation and mounted usb-drives. what would be the right place to look for already filed bugs or to actually file a bug?
[08:57] <FLiPeR> !sessions SubMoa
[08:57] <Alarm> okie, thanks
[08:58] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: hence, kde has a lot more apps, and it's very configurable.
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions SubMoa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <terapicodave> not really a folder but creates an encrypted file that you can mount to a location like /media/a
[08:58] <haakuturi> fluxbox is awesome and lighter than xfce :)
[08:58] <Flannel> Angelus: er, what?  JSP doesn't need a database.  You mean to parse it for you?  You'll want to setup a tomcat server on your machine
[08:58] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: type true and tap tab a couple times...you probably don't have it but can use synaptic to get it
[08:58] <fokuslee> echo "${PROGNAME}: ${1:-"Unknown Error"}" 1>&2  PROGNAME is a variable but can someone plz explain the second part ${1:-"Unknown Error"}  does it mean if $1 is avaiable just use $1 if not just display Unknow Error?
[08:58] <FLiPeR> SubMoa..>System>administration>Sessions
[08:58] <Bhaskar> apokryphos:KDE is more strong ya?
[08:59] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: in the terminal i mean
[08:59] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: for sure :P
[08:59] <Angelus> ok cool thank you Flannel
[08:59] <Myrth> hm... looks like twinview is solution for me cuz i have nvidia
[08:59] <Myrth> but can't find where to download it
[09:00] <apokryphos> ubotu: twinview
[09:00] <apokryphos> ubotu: xinerama
[09:00] <Bhaskar> apokryphos:p
[09:00] <savedbygrace> ok
[09:00] <savedbygrace> let me check Dave.
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:01] <Bhaskar> apokryphos: i am in confusion to use xbuntu or kbuntu, i need more powerful desktop
[09:01] <SubMOA> thank you guys so much!!!
[09:01] <stian2> bhaskar: KDE is more configurable, but it depends on what you want. If you want speed, go for xfce (but you might not like some of the apps), if you like to tweak and tune your desktop environment, go for KDE.
[09:01] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: try them both, and see what you like.
[09:01] <Juhaz> fokuslee, "If parameter is unset or null, the expansion of word is substituted.  Otherwise, the value of parameter is substituted."
[09:01] <savedbygrace> Dave: So how do I work out if I have it?
[09:01] <savedbygrace> sorry
[09:01] <savedbygrace> :(
[09:02] <savedbygrace> I tapped it, and all this stuff came up. What does it mean?
[09:02] <Bhaskar> apokryphos: which u are using?
[09:02] <fokuslee> Juhaz thx alot : )
[09:02] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: kde of course 8)
[09:02] <oFF-beAt> MacLinuxMaster, :D it works
[09:03] <oFF-beAt> thanx MacLinuxMaster
[09:03] <Bhaskar> apokryphos: what is actually kde have...
[09:03] <fokuslee> Juhaz do u know any good bash shell scritping site?
[09:03] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: what?
[09:04] <Giant_sea_turtle> oFF-beAt: how do i install a beryl theme ? it wont go into the themes thingy?
[09:04] <Bhaskar> apokryphos: i mean kde is suitable for server or desktop, standalone
[09:05] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: well, it's a *desktop environment* :)
[09:05] <zee666> hi anyone know what package missing if the system can't setup the language and I get warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C") errors?
[09:05] <Flannel> Bhaskar: servers don't usually have a GUI
[09:05] <MacLinuxMaster> oFF-beAt: I really like that it works
[09:05] <zee666> I have another working machine and I copied the environment file from that (same edgy)
[09:05] <oFF-beAt> Giant_sea_turtle, i added some repos.. and downloaded beryl.. emerald.. and emerald-themes
[09:05] <v0x> So Im guessing its commong knowledge that you cant paste stuff from OpenOffice spreadsheat to a terminal?
[09:05] <nothlit> Giant_sea_turtle, beryl doesn't have themes, emerald does
[09:05] <Bhaskar> apokryphos: ubuntu 6.06 is based on gnome?
[09:06] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: you'll need to check the options with truecrypt...basically you create the file, then you mount it
[09:06] <timbobsteve> hey all
[09:06] <Myrth> is GeForce FX Go5200 considered legacy?..
[09:06] <oFF-beAt> Giant_sea_turtle, it installs all needed stuff.. buit needs nvidia driver installed
[09:06] <nothlit> Bhaskar, ubuntu is GNOME based and kubuntu is KDE based
[09:06] <stian2> Bhaskar: ubuntu uses gnome
[09:06] <oFF-beAt> or ATI if u have an iati
[09:06] <Giant_sea_turtle> oohh k let me look lol
[09:06] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: yes, but it's not that straight forward. Ubuntu has all of those packages in the repository
[09:06] <oFF-beAt> ati
[09:06] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[09:06] <timbobsteve> does anyone know what the default fedora gnome theme/icons are called? I want to get them
[09:06] <savedbygrace> Check which options?
[09:06] <savedbygrace> Can we private chat?
[09:06] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: every time you boot you'll need to mount it when you need it but if it's as solid as it ought to be, you should be the only one on the planet that can access files inside the truecrypt file....for a while anyway
[09:06] <SubMOA> if I want to open a picture in my home directory from the command line, (named catus.jpeg) i just type "catus.jpeg" right?
[09:07] <Hirvinen> No.
[09:07] <apokryphos> SubMOA: no, you  type someimageview catus.jpeg
[09:07] <apokryphos> *viewer
[09:07] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: lets keep it in the room incase some one else wants to do this
[09:07] <Ayabara> I installed kubuntu-desktop but I want to go back to gnome, _and_ I want to uninstall the KDE packages. This is a Catch 22, though, since I need a "clean" system to know which packages to remove. Could someone who doesn't have kubuntu do a 'sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop' and pastebin me the packages listed?
[09:07] <SubMOA> what would be an example of an image viewer?
[09:07] <SubMOA> and do I need a "./"
[09:07] <apokryphos> Ayabara: ......or just delete some vital Qt lib
[09:08] <ahoj> Hey guys. I pasted together a shell script which should tar a directory and upload it to a server using ftp. But everytime I run it, the archive seems to be corrupt. Could it be that the script uploads the .tar before the script is done? Anyone got a few seconds to help me out?
[09:08] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: did you get truecrypt yet?
[09:08] <Bhaskar> apokryphos: i am a programmer so pls suggest me which is better in your vied to use xbuntu or kbuntu...
[09:08] <savedbygrace> Ok.
[09:08] <EnsignRedshirt> savedbygrace: Do you really need password access, or would it simply be sufficient to use the standard permission provided by linux?
[09:08] <Pistahh> ahoj: pastebin your script
[09:08] <savedbygrace> Dude, I am really sorry but I just have no idea what you mean.
[09:08] <ahoj> okay
[09:08] <nothlit> !gthumb | SubMOA
[09:08] <nothlit> !eog | SubMOA
[09:08] <stian2> SubMOA: gqview catus.jpeg for example
[09:08] <apokryphos> Ayabara: though if you're on edgy I believe you can do sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <savedbygrace> I do not know if I have it and how to get it if I don't.
[09:08] <apokryphos> Ayabara: haven't tried it though
[09:08] <ahoj> Pistahh, just a second
[09:08] <Juhaz> fokuslee, not really. http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ might be worth a look, and if looking for something specific "what does this do" then man page tends to help too
[09:08] <nothlit> SubMOA, no you don't need ./
[09:08] <Hirvinen> SubMOA: But if you press Alt + F2, then you can give the full path of any file, e.g. ~/image.jpg , it is opened in the program associated with that file type. At least in KDE. And I'm fairly certain that it works on GNOME as well.
[09:08] <ubotu> gthumb: an image viewer and browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3:2.7.9-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1162 kB, installed size 7672 kB
[09:08] <SubMOA> ok.  Thanks guys
[09:09] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: start synaptic System->Administration->Synaptic
[09:09] <ubotu> eog: Eye of Gnome graphics viewer program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 293 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[09:09] <savedbygrace> Well other people use my laptop, so I don't want people to be able to even view what is in my folder at all.
[09:09] <SubMOA> Hirvinen, but that is only if you use the full file path, right?
[09:09] <apokryphos> Bhaskar: like I said, Kubuntu. KDE has a zillion times more users and developers than xfce (or even gnome)
[09:09] <nothlit> Hirvinen, i think gnome-panel's Alt+F2 run dialog uses gnome-open
[09:09] <EnsignRedshirt> savedbygrace: Do they have different user names?  That is, do all the users log in with their own passwords?
[09:09] <oFF-beAt> Giant_sea_turtle, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[09:09] <Giant_sea_turtle> oFF-beAt: ill try and follow this wiki http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[09:09] <oFF-beAt> yeah
[09:09] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: they'd need the password like you said
[09:10] <oFF-beAt> hehe yeah
[09:10] <savedbygrace> Dave: I don't know what you are asking.
[09:10] <Giant_sea_turtle> i googled it up lol
[09:10] <savedbygrace> it is too technical.
[09:10] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: you'd just need to unmount it before other people check it out
[09:10] <Bhaskar> apokryphos:thanks
[09:10] <savedbygrace> what is this synaptic thing?
[09:10] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: have you ever installed anything on your ubuntu laptop? you are using ubuntu aren't you?
[09:10] <apokryphos> savedbygrace: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[09:10] <oFF-beAt> that's what i did too.. beryl is totally worth it :D compared to beryl vista themes sux
[09:10] <oFF-beAt> :P
[09:10] <Hirvinen> SubMOA: Yes.
[09:10] <zezu> Anyone tell me how i can get skype to install properly ?
[09:10] <nothlit> !sudo | EnsignRedshirt
[09:10] <ubotu> EnsignRedshirt: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:10] <Ayabara> apokryphos, ok. what do you mean by "delete some vital QT lib"?
[09:10] <zezu> ?? skype
[09:11] <ahoj> Pistahh, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2124/
[09:11] <EnsignRedshirt> nothlit: ?
[09:11] <apokryphos> Ayabara: try the command I said
[09:11] <savedbygrace> Yes I am using Ubuntu... I am just not computer literate.
[09:11] <ahoj> It works fine so far, the tar gets created and uploaded, I just can't seem to inflate it
[09:11] <apokryphos> ubotu: skype | zezu
[09:11] <ubotu> zezu: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:11] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: i second a visit to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions...go there
[09:11] <nothlit> EnsignRedshirt, oh sorry, I'm scanning too much lol
[09:11] <savedbygrace> And no, my friend has installed everything and he is not available to help me.
[09:11] <oFF-beAt> synaptic is a gui fronted package manager
[09:12] <EnsignRedshirt> savedbygrace: When you get a chance, answer my question above ^^^
[09:12] <savedbygrace> Beat, do I need to install anything from Add/Remove programs?
[09:12] <nothlit> savedbygrace, you can just use chmod to prevent other users from viewing your data
[09:12] <riotkittie> stupid ati mobility m1 :\
[09:12] <riotkittie> argh. wasted ANOTHER 90 mins trying to get my screen to clone between two displays
[09:12] <savedbygrace> Does Chmod require a password.
[09:13] <riotkittie> not i am going to crawl into bed. and cry. like a girl. :D
[09:13] <riotkittie> err noW
[09:13] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: do different users of your laptop use their own login?
[09:13] <savedbygrace> Shirt: I am sorry. No, there is only one user. I have allowed only one for they do not come on often.
[09:13] <stian2> riotkittie: it's ok to cry once in a while
[09:13] <Lynoure> savedbygrace: no chmod does not, but if you do not have right, you cannot change them
[09:13] <oFF-beAt> yes savedbygrace ubuntu FAQ ubuntu bewbie guides.. ubuntu installation walk thrus.. r very helpful.. u shud read those
[09:13] <Lynoure> savedbygrace: you can do  sudo chmod  if you need to.
[09:13] <haakuturi> hey does anyone know Bitweaver??
[09:13] <oFF-beAt> i'm new to ubuntu as well
[09:13] <Pistahh> ahoj: z is missing from tar flags so it is not compressing it
[09:13] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: make a guest account go to System->Users and Groups
[09:14] <YoG> hi (newbie here), is threre an equivalent to GTK+ for gnome?
[09:14] <Ayabara> valehru, thanks a lot
[09:14] <savedbygrace> but chmod does not seem to help, because they will still be able to view them.
[09:14] <nothlit> savedbygrace, the best thing to do is create another user in System -> Administration -> Users and Groups for guest users of your laptop
[09:14] <nothlit> savedbygrace, and then chmod your files to only allow your user to read them
[09:14] <YoG> hi (newbie here), Sorry I meant - is threre an equivalent to perl-GTK+ for gnome
[09:14] <riotkittie> i dont get why this isnt working. as far is i can tell, i did configure xorg right :\
[09:15] <nothlit> YoG, what do you mean for Gnome? gtk is gnome
[09:15] <ahoj> Pistahh, so I need -cvvfz as a flag?
[09:15] <zee666> cannot set LC_ALL to default locale : no such file or directory
[09:15] <savedbygrace> But I don't want them to read them either.
[09:15] <zee666> hel pls
[09:15] <zee666> what cause this
[09:15] <Pistahh> ahoj: yepp. or j instead of z if you would like to compress with bzip2 instead of gzip
[09:15] <EnsignRedshirt> savedbygrace: Can you change the way you use the computer so that either (1) each user has a distinct login, or at least (2) there is a "guest" long (like terapicodave suggested)?
[09:15] <savedbygrace> Hmmmm, Is there something I can download from the free software?
[09:16] <YoG> nothil: err..... ok I want to write a perl script that will open a graphic window.... so is perl-gtk+ the tool for me?
[09:16] <savedbygrace> I didn't want to add another account because of the speed of my computer.
[09:16] <Ayabara> apokryphos, ok. thanks for the info
[09:16] <ahoj> Pistahh, allright, let me just try that
[09:16] <ahoj> Thanks so far
[09:16] <YoG> nothilt: err..... ok I want to write a perl script that will open a graphic window.... so is perl-gtk+ the tool for me?
[09:16] <terapicodave> savedbygrace: i think you need to read a little on permissions...chmod says who can access and what they can do,....another account won't slow down your computer
[09:16] <zezu> hmm, I guess i should have said I need to get Skype working and I am running x64 ubuntu
[09:16] <EnsignRedshirt> savedbygrace: What does the speed of your computer have to do with adding another account?
[09:16] <savedbygrace> It used to before?
[09:16] <zezu> I thought the emulator worked w/o having to manually enable it for things?
[09:16] <aardfox> My Logitech USB headset is no longer playing sound, even though it's the only audio output plugged into my computer. I'm assuming linux is trying to play sound through my soundcard instead. How do I re-detect my headphones and play sound through them?
[09:16] <valehru> Ayabara, thats the lot of them.
[09:16] <savedbygrace> I have no idea, but when I used to run on Windows, it totally stuffed up my computer somehow.
[09:17] <oFF-beAt> savedbygrace, if the otehr user is not logged in at the same time u r.. and doin some work.. it won;t make a difference if u had 10 users
[09:17] <savedbygrace> Is it different with Ubuntu?
[09:17] <stian2> Yog: to create gui-applications in gnoe you can use GTK
[09:17] <savedbygrace> Cool.
[09:17] <EnsignRedshirt> savedbygrace: Fortunately, you are no longer running windows!  Yes, it is different.
[09:17] <savedbygrace> Yay!
[09:17] <zezu> nvm
[09:17] <nothlit> savedbygrace, here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[09:17] <savedbygrace> I guess, though, the persons need to be able to access everything else on my users account except certain folders.
[09:17] <her_fella> hi, how do i connect to the internet using bluetooth to my handphone?
[09:18] <nothlit> savedbygrace, but this is a lot more complicated than an extra user and chmod
[09:18] <savedbygrace> Is that possible with a guest account?
[09:18] <nothlit> Yes, it is
[09:18] <YoG> stian2: I just want to show a graphic window for a couple of seconds... can I do it with perl?
[09:18] <Ayabara> valehru, indeed it is :-)
[09:18] <oFF-beAt> savedbygrace, if someone has physical access to ur computer.. u can't really protect ur data with a password..
[09:18] <EnsignRedshirt> savedbygrace: If you can set up different users, then you will not need encrytion. You can simply change the permissions on the files.
[09:18] <oFF-beAt> u need to b able to encrypt ur data if that's that important to u
[09:19] <stian2> YoG: i don't know perl, unfortunately
[09:19] <zee666> fuck language support en wasnt installed
[09:19] <zee666> what a shit updater u made for this crap edgy
[09:19] <YoG> stian2: me niether :), but that looks like the simplest way....
[09:19] <savedbygrace> Ah, I understand.
[09:19] <PriceChild> !language | zee666
[09:20] <nothlit> YoG, a google search for gtk and perl comes up with gtk2-perl http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/
[09:20] <fokuslee> !language
[09:20] <zee666> nn
[09:20] <fokuslee> this doesn't do anything
[09:20] <aardfox> How do i get ubuntu to re-detect my Logitech USB headset and play sound through it?
[09:20] <nothlit> fokuslee, ubotu is being laggy
[09:20] <ahoj> Pistahh, cool, it works! Thanks a lot, really!
[09:20] <fokuslee> can anyone recommend a good bash scripting site?
[09:20] <ahoj> One day, I'm going to marry this channel
[09:20] <MatthewV> nothlit, no, ubotu has quit :(
[09:21] <oFF-beAt> hehe another usb device problem
[09:21] <fokuslee> i need to whip the bot into shape
[09:21] <nothlit> MatthewV, :O so it did
[09:21] <Pistahh> ahoj: yw
[09:21] <nothlit> its back
[09:21] <oFF-beAt> i plugged in my cam and all my removable disks go dead
[09:21] <MatthewV> fokuslee, it quit, only just rejoined
[09:21] <oFF-beAt> but now ok
[09:21] <aardfox> oFF-beAt: "another?" people have been getting a lot of these?
[09:21] <oFF-beAt> hapenned only once
[09:22] <her_fella> is there a bluetooth sofware which has a dun modem already in ubuntu 6.10?
[09:22] <oFF-beAt> aardfox, me!
[09:22] <her_fella> i only can connect to the internet thru a bluetooth connected mobile phone
[09:23] <startswithz> I'm having a hard time transferring files through samba
[09:23] <aardfox> oFF-beAt: oh : ) . my headset used to work fantastically, and it still does in Windows, but now it doesn't work in linux
[09:23] <oFF-beAt> i plugged in my cam n my usb hdd , n flash drive disapears
[09:23] <aardfox> oh
[09:23] <YoG> thanx guys, I'll try that later...
[09:23] <aardfox> oh and a completely noobish question- how do i see what version of ubuntu i hate?
[09:23] <aardfox> have*
[09:23] <aftertaf> loool
[09:23] <startswithz> it says "please enter authentication information for server = x share = y and then asks for a username and password
[09:23] <aardfox> hahaha
[09:24] <aardfox> what a wierd type
[09:24] <aardfox> typo*
[09:24] <aardfox> dangit
[09:25] <stian2> aardfox: lsb_release -d, if that's what you are looking for (or hate :))
[09:25] <aardfox> 6.06 hmmm
[09:25] <aardfox> isnt ubuntu at 6.1 now?
[09:26] <wkerzend> I have trouble with my X. gdm restarts after login
[09:26] <stian2> yup
[09:26] <fokuslee> aardfox yeah
[09:26] <EnsignRedshirt> aardfox: Technically, 6.10
[09:26] <wkerzend> please help
[09:26] <aardfox> how do i update?
[09:26] <stian2> either by downloading the 6.10 image (reinstall), or upgrade via apt-get
[09:26] <EnsignRedshirt> aardfox: ...or use the Update Manager
[09:27] <stian2> i'm not sure how stable 6.10 would be if you upgrade though..
[09:27] <aardfox> so i'd type something like "sudo apt-get ubuntu 6.10" ?
[09:27] <EnsignRedshirt> aardfox: System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[09:27] <oFF-beAt> stian2, 6.06 is more stable than 6.10 ?
[09:27] <oFF-beAt> i've only used this for 2 weeks
[09:28] <marlun> Anyone know if there is any application which I can filter output through so that code is syntax highlighted in terminal? I want to do like: cat test.cpp and get it colored.
[09:28] <aardfox> ensignredshirt: "cannot install updates"
[09:28] <stian2> off-beat: i mean stable in the context of 6.10 (reinstall) vs. 6.06 upgrade
[09:28] <oFF-beAt> oh ok
[09:28] <fokuslee> aardfox dapper is locked b/c itz lts
[09:29] <stian2> off-beat: i haven't had any problems with 6.10, but i installed it from image
[09:29] <smartman> hi guys
[09:29] <zezu> I have a file, its executable and has +x, when i try to execute i get a no such file or directory, anyone?
[09:29] <smartman> good morning
[09:29] <fokuslee> aardfox i updated via internet but i lost the code itz just one line
[09:29] <Flannel> zezu: ./filename, your current directory isn't in the path
[09:29] <fokuslee> aardfox: i will try to find it for u
[09:29] <nothlit> aardfox, ubuntu is at both 6.06 LTS and 6.10 :)
[09:29] <aardfox> fokuslee: what is lts?
[09:29] <ardchoille42> zezu, Check the filename in the command? Check the path?
[09:30] <zezu> Flannel, doesn't work
[09:30] <stian2> long time support
[09:30] <zezu> i have
[09:30] <nothlit> !lts | aardfox
[09:30] <zezu> i'm in the same dir
[09:30] <oFF-beAt> stian2, i was on mandriva 2007 b4.. and switched to ubuntu 6.10
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> aardfox: Try This: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[09:30] <zezu> ./bin
[09:30] <zezu> does'nt work
[09:30] <aardfox> nothlit: would you mind explaining that statement a little bit? the one about it being both
[09:30] <fokuslee> aardfox: $ gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:30] <zezu> the binary is skype, and it says no such file launching from menu as well
[09:30] <oFF-beAt> i still wish diskpartitioning was as easy as it was in mandriva
[09:30] <Flannel> zezu: why would ./bin launch skype?
[09:31] <nothlit> aardfox, well the official recommended version of ubuntu is actually still 6.06, as its Long Term Support (and more stable)
[09:31] <fokuslee> aardfox thats all u need but my fsplash became black and white after update
[09:31] <ardchoille42> zezu, Is it skype.bin?
[09:31] <ubotu> aardfox: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[09:31] <oFF-beAt> for me, mandriva diskpartitioning wizard at installation was easier
[09:31] <zezu> no
[09:31] <nothlit> aardfox, even though 6.10 is the newest version
[09:31] <fokuslee> aardfox:  but otherwise i cee no problem
[09:31] <zezu> it was ./skype
[09:31] <Flannel> zezu: skype is in the repositories, by the way.
[09:31] <aardfox> ah, ok i'll stick with 6.06 then
[09:31] <zezu> and i thought it wasn't ..
[09:31] <fokuslee> aardfox:  yeah 6.06 is pretty good i only updated to get firefox2.0
[09:31] <smartman> guys i need help all my media dosen't work and get's me erro (You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file.) AND(You might need to install the necessary plugins.)
[09:31] <zezu> for 64b ?
[09:31] <smartman> what is the sovl for that
[09:31] <aardfox> i just thought the world of ubuntu had left me behind without offering me a ride :D
[09:31] <ardchoille42> !skype | zezu
[09:32] <oFF-beAt> smartman, u need codecs.. like gstreamer
[09:32] <oFF-beAt> get animatrix
[09:32] <oFF-beAt> and install codecs.. very easy
[09:32] <Flannel> zezu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-6c3cbecd1f1ecd4388bde1462ee364bb57e4533b
[09:32] <aardfox> now, can anyone answer the question i had earlier? how can i re-detect my logitech USB headset that was previously working?
[09:32] <Flannel> oFF-beAt: please don't recommend automatix
[09:32] <ardchoille42> oFF-beAt, If you are referring to automatix, that is not supported in this channel
[09:32] <smartman> off-beat ok ill see and come agien
[09:33] <nothlit> !automatix | oFF-beAt
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> ehehehe i said animatrix?? lol
[09:33] <ardchoille42> nothlit, that bot isn't here
[09:33] <Li`lEndian> lol,, oFF-beAt , hello :P
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> damn
[09:33] <Flannel> smartman: don't use automatix.  Codecs aren't difficult to install, just do it yourself.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:33] <nothlit> totem-xine > totem
[09:33] <bachillerato> klj
[09:33] <zezu> Flannel, thats what i was following
[09:33] <bachillerato> hoolaaa
[09:33] <bachillerato> ????
[09:33] <zezu> but ldd screws up
[09:34] <oFF-beAt> Li`lEndian, hey man
[09:34] <bachillerato> hi?
[09:34] <smartman> flannel ...ok
[09:34] <zezu> /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
[09:34] <oFF-beAt> sorry guys.. :D didn;t know automatrix was offtopic here
[09:34] <oFF-beAt> apologies
[09:34] <Li`lEndian> whats wrong with editing the sourcelist? i think there's a good one already posted in the ubuntufaq.
[09:34] <ardchoille42> Is ubotu broken or something?
[09:35] <bachillerato> I'm inma
[09:35] <aardfox> fokuslee, nothlit, EnsignRedshirt: how can i re-detect my logitech USB headset that was previously working?
[09:35] <Li`lEndian> with additional repositories- you could get almost everything you want using that list
[09:35] <Flannel> oFF-beAt: automatix isn't simply offtopic, it's downright dangerous
[09:35] <green-> what's the preferred method of installing either XGL+Compiz or AIGLX+Compiz on dapper?
[09:35] <bachillerato> I'm from spain!!!
[09:35] <Flannel> green-: #ubuntu-xgl has all that ;)  check the topic
[09:35] <Jowi> !es |  bachillerato
[09:35] <green-> flannel: thanks
[09:35] <jonathan8di> Wow
[09:35] <jonathan8di> Hi
[09:35] <EnsignRedshirt> aardfox: Sorry, I don't know.
[09:35] <ardchoille42> !automatix | oFF-beAt
[09:36] <ubotu> bachillerato: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:36] <Jowi> hmm, the bot's on vacation?
[09:36] <ubotu> oFF-beAt: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:36] <Jowi> ah. just a bit slow :)
[09:36] <jonathan8di> I have a question if anyone could spare a minute
[09:36] <Flannel> !anyone | jonathan8di
[09:36] <ubotu> jonathan8di: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:36] <ardchoille42> Jowi, lag
[09:36] <nothlit> green-, wiki.beryl-project.org
[09:36] <aardfox> EnsignRedshirt: there's no way to make ubuntu re-detect USB devices?
[09:36] <Li`lEndian> oFF-beAt, what exactly are you trying to install?
[09:36] <ciscosurfer> Don't listen to that bot regarding Automatix!!!
[09:36] <ciscosurfer> Don't listen to that bot regarding Automatix!!!
[09:36] <bachillerato> What's this???!!
[09:36] <Flannel> ciscosurfer: stop trolling.
[09:37] <Giant_sea_turtle> how do i change the screen resolution of my login screen its too big for my monitor?
[09:37] <bachillerato> I' don't understand nothing!!!
[09:37] <jonathan8di> I just installed Ubuntu this week.  I need if for school.  I'm making a GUI for some linux libraries.
[09:37] <oFF-beAt> Li`lEndian, not me.. some guy had missing codecs.. n i said automatrix.. n now they r telin me it's offtopic n dangerous
[09:37] <ciscosurfer> Flannel: I'm sorry, what?
[09:37] <nothlit> !fixres | Giant_sea_turtle
[09:37] <apokryphos> ciscosurfer: stop
[09:37] <EnsignRedshirt> aardfox: Sorry, I have no idea.
[09:37] <jonathan8di> I installed Netbeans and the C/C++ pack
[09:37] <jonathan8di> However, when I try to compile a sample program in C++ using Netbeans, it gives me make[1] : g++: Command not found
[09:37] <jonathan8di> It also says it cannot find include file for stdio.h stdlib.h
[09:37] <ubotu> Giant_sea_turtle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:37] <ciscosurfer> apokryphos: ok
[09:37] <jonathan8di> I pretty sure gcc is installed
[09:37] <Flannel> jonathan8di: er, netbeans does C++ now?  Anyway, install the "build-essential" package, that should fix it
[09:38] <apokryphos> ciscosurfer: we speak from our experience. We have seen many broken systems because of it, and hence we advise against its use in here.
[09:38] <stian2> jonathan: why do you use netbeans, that's for java development? anyway, have you installed build-essential through apt-get?
[09:38] <bachillerato> are you from zaragoza jonathan
[09:38] <bachillerato> ????
[09:38] <ciscosurfer> apokryphos: I see.  and are you an OP?
[09:38] <apokryphos> yes
[09:38] <stian2> jonathan: you can test that by writing: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:38] <jonathan8di> Flannel: "build-essential", Ok.  what is that by the way?
[09:39] <oFF-beAt> Li`lEndian, pvt
[09:39] <stian2> jonathan: it contains the necessary compilers and libs for c/c++ development
[09:39] <Flannel> jonathan8di: it contains all the essentials for a build environment, the traditional toolchain, and libraries, etc
[09:39] <stian2> jonathan: + more
[09:39] <bachillerato> ke os den por culoooo!
[09:39] <jonathan8di> cool
[09:39] <Flannel> !es | bachillerato
[09:39] <ciscosurfer> apokryphos: may I suggest, then, that you change the message to something a little less harsh, perhaps simply a link to the Automatix web site or forum...
[09:39] <ubotu> bachillerato: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:39] <jonathan8di> I'll check it out
[09:39] <nothlit> jonathaN, build-essential is a metapackage that includes all the different stuff you need in order to compile programs
[09:39] <stian2> jonathan: at least, g++ is in that package
[09:40] <ciscosurfer> apokryphos: I've had nothing but success with Automatix
[09:40] <apokryphos> ciscosurfer: why would we want to encourage its use? We used to have a "support in #automatix " note but people got angry about that I believe
[09:40] <Flannel> !worksforme | ciscosurfer
[09:40] <apokryphos> ciscosurfer: so?
[09:40] <ubotu> ciscosurfer: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:40] <ardchoille42> ciscosurfer, I disagree, being one of the people who had his computer destroyed by automatix, I feel the bot message about it is true.
[09:40] <yalu> could anyone inform me about how to make the ubuntu startup behave more like the standard linux/debian one? I mean I like to see each and every message of the system starting up rolling over my console (I allready disabled the splash screen/progress bar stuff)
[09:40] <jonathan8di> By the way, I'm using NetBeans because the project I'm working on I need to create a GUI for a program who's libraries run on Linux (hence why I'm such a noob on Linux, just installed Ubuntu this Monday)
[09:41] <yalu> for some reason ubuntu writes everything to tty7 or something
[09:41] <Flannel> yalu: er, what more do you want?  if you have quiet and splash removed from your kernel config, what are you not seeing?
[09:41] <yalu> Flannel: I might have forgotten quit
[09:41] <stian2> jonathan: ok, i don't use netbeans, but thought it was meant for java development only, but I might be wrong.
[09:41] <KorN[CM] > is someone able to help me with samba, it's driving me crazy!
[09:41] <mneptok> ciscosurfer: Automatix and EasyUbuntu may work for some people, but due to their ability to leave systems in broken, and indeed unbootable, states, they are not recommended. </official_canonical_support_staff_statement> ;)
[09:41] <Jowi> yalu, disable splash in /boot/grub/menu.lst (should be the last option on the kernel line)
[09:42] <Flannel> yalu: you'll need ot change the kopt line, to have it persist between grub automagical updates
[09:42] <ciscosurfer> apokryphos, Flannel, mneptok, ardchoille42: no disrepect, or "works for me" attitude was intended.  I was simply relaying my experiences
[09:42] <jonathan8di> Right, the GUI will be in Java and I'll use JNI to interface the Java to the libraries
[09:42] <apokryphos> ciscosurfer: thanks, but inevitably we have to work on our own, as well; hence we can't allow recommendations of automatix in here.
[09:43] <stian2> jonathan: ah, then i'm with you :)
[09:43] <Jowi> yalu, sorry, i missed your last sentence
[09:43] <mneptok> ciscosurfer: no disrespect iterpreted. but those warnings are there for good reason. trust me. :)
[09:43] <zezu> heh, this i find interesting: http://rafb.net/p/kWge3G57.html
[09:43] <Ayabara> apokryphos, the autoremoval of kubuntu did most of the trick. thanks
[09:43] <apokryphos> cool
[09:44] <ciscosurfer> apokryphos: that's fine, I understand.
[09:44] <yalu> Jowi, Flannel , thanks. I'll rerun update-grub now and see at the next reboot :)
[09:44] <oolon> morning folks
[09:44] <ciscosurfer> mneptok: I'm sorry you had bad experiences with it.  But really, it's nothing more than a script that installs what you can do yourself at the command line
[09:45] <KorN[CM] > is someone able to help me with samba, it's driving me crazy! I'm a linux noob
[09:45] <Jowi> yalu, no need to rerun the update. that will probably put the "splash" lines back
[09:45] <mneptok> ciscosurfer: i have not had bad experiences, as i have never used it. but i have had to bail a few customers out who have tried it.
[09:46] <ciscosurfer> mneptok: interesting
[09:46] <zezu> vi will open it, has elf header
[09:46] <zezu> i dont see why the shell seems to ignore it
[09:47] <oolon> KorN[CM] : im headed to bed but whats the samba question
[09:47] <KorN[CM] > um well I need some assistance getting it working
[09:47] <nothlit> mneptok, but easyubuntu is reversible, and uses repos/dpkg system
[09:47] <KorN[CM] > im a bit of a n00b with linux
[09:47] <yalu> Jowi: no, that's what the "defoptions" is for. if you install a new kernel, update-grub is ran, and it will take what you defined in "defoptions" and add it to every linux item in the grub menu
[09:47] <nothlit> so its less unsupported than automatix
[09:47] <yalu> it's very practical
[09:47] <ardchoille42> ciscosurfer, I built four identical boxes for friends. I used automatix on three of them. One box ran perfectly, the other two had nothing but problems after using automatix. Automatix is inconsistant, and therefore unreliable. Remember, these were identical boxes with the same OS and packages.
[09:48] <mneptok> nothlit: changes nothing. Canonical does not support autamated scripts, and will always strongly discourage users from using them.
[09:48] <mneptok> *automated
[09:48] <oolon> KorN[CM] : have you read this
[09:49] <Jowi> ok yalu, didn't know that. is that a config file or is it set with grub-set-default command?
[09:49] <oolon> hmm can't paste hold on
[09:49] <nothlit> mneptok, oh rofl easyubuntu doesn't use an automated script in my knowledge, but i'm not saying everybody should use it
[09:49] <KorN[CM] > k
[09:49] <yalu> Jowi: it's a line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:49] <oolon> KorN[CM] : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba
[09:50] <KorN[CM] > no I haven't
[09:50] <Jowi> yalu, ah I see the kopt line now. thanks for pointing it out (have scrolled by it probably a million times)
[09:50] <oolon> KorN[CM] : also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[09:50] <mneptok> nothlit: anything not supplied by Debian, Ubuntu, or Canonical that tries to automate package installation and management is a Bad Idea(tm)
[09:50] <yalu> KorN[CM] : if you want to set up a simple samba server: read "samba by example". that's a whole book but if you just want to set up a simple filesharing service chapter 1 and 2 will suffice
[09:50] <ciscosurfer> ardchoille42: I've built hundreds of boxes for friends, family, and colleagues, all different makes/models/etc., installing it on the majority of them, and they've all done quite well, no hitches...again, not trying to be evangelical, and I DO understand what you are saying...:-)
[09:50] <oolon> KorN[CM] : it seems quite easy but i haven't tried it myself
[09:51] <nothlit> easyubuntu will be a moot point in feisty anyways with the ubuntu-restricted-extra metapackage
[09:51] <oolon> KorN[CM] : I just installed ubuntu a few hours ago
[09:51] <yalu> Jowi: I don't need those fancy graphical boot things, expecially not progress bars :)
[09:51] <yalu> they're pretty but make spotting problems more difficult
[09:51] <webben> Does anyone happen to know why ubuntu doesn't include libsvg in its repositories?
[09:51] <mneptok> yalu: like boobs
[09:51] <webben> http://cairographics.org/libsvg
[09:51] <yalu> mneptok: ROFL
[09:52] <Jowi> yalu, I agree with you.
[09:52] <Bhaskar> can i get free CD of Kbuntu 6.10 ?
[09:52] <[nige] > anyone got an asus U3000 usb digital tv tuner?
[09:52] <yalu> Bhaskar: yes, surf the ubuntu.com website for jigdo. it's a magical way to download iso's
[09:52] <nothlit> mneptok, a gui interface to apt-get is automated? ^.-
[09:53] <ardchoille42> webben, I see a number of libsvg packages in synaptic
[09:53] <Bhaskar> yalu:link pls?
[09:53] <webben> ardchoille42, look closer -- some are for ruby and the others are libsvga which isn't the same thing
[09:53] <oolon> KorN[CM] : g'night and good luck :)
[09:53] <mneptok> nothlit: read what i said carefully ;)
[09:53] <webben> (this is with edgy anyhow)
[09:54] <ardchoille42> webben, Oh, right, good point.. I just searched for "lkibsvg"
[09:54] <mneptok> Bhaskar: do you want to download a CD, or have one mailed?
[09:54] <webben> ardchoille42, more conclusively perhaps: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libsvg&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[09:54] <webben> turns up zilch
[09:54] <ardchoille42> :(
[09:55] <webben> I wonder which is the best channel to ask.
[09:55] <SniZ> hi, who can suggest me a soft, for online grabbing stream-radio and PLAYING(!) it?
[09:55] <nothlit> webben, ask what
[09:56] <Bhaskar> mneptok:i have slow band with to download, so i need CD of Kbuntu 6.10 in free of cost , i will distribute here in nepal to other people also
[09:56] <mabus> can you compile your own kernel to make ubuntu run faster if you choose?
[09:56] <mneptok> Bhaskar: then no. only 6.06 is available via Ship-It
[09:56] <KorN[CM] > whats the command to dislay load on a server?
[09:56] <tuxo> hii
[09:56] <KorN[CM] > apart from top
[09:56] <tuxo> help me pls
[09:56] <nothlit> SniZ, streamtuner
[09:56] <nothlit> SniZ, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Booting-once_002donly.html#Booting-once_002donly
[09:56] <Jowi> yas mabus
[09:56] <nothlit> SniZ, err sorry wrong url
[09:56] <SniZ> :(
[09:57] <tuxo> how can i open .pbo extension
[09:57] <nothlit> SniZ, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications#head-dae3b31cb08c85c9d7afb3c3cec501ce5b811319
[09:57] <Bhaskar> mneptok:why not 6.10 coz opensource
[09:57] <Jowi> !kernel | mabus
[09:57] <ubotu> mabus: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:57] <someothernick> Bhaskar, https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[09:57] <mneptok> Bhaskar: because the decision was made to continue to ship the LTS release.
[09:57] <oolon> KorN[CM] : just type top in a terminal
[09:57] <nothlit> KorN[CM] , uptime
[09:58] <KorN[CM] > ah thats it
[09:58] <SniZ> nothlit, bit it only capture or plaing!!!! i have small bandwich and i cant download 2 same stream
[09:58] <mneptok> KorN[CM] : and you really want htop :)
[09:58] <KorN[CM] > Getting htop now
[09:58] <KorN[CM] > oooh :)
[09:58] <jonathan8di> Hey, it works now!  Thanks.
[09:59] <mneptok> ;)
[09:59] <KorN[CM] > nice
[09:59] <KorN[CM] > ok
[09:59] <KorN[CM] > now,
[09:59] <KorN[CM] > how do I show partitions and free space on disks?
[09:59] <mneptok> df -h
[09:59] <t0ny-p40> KorN[CM] ,  df -h
[09:59] <KorN[CM] > nice thanks
[09:59] <nothlit> SniZ, could you say exactly what you want to do again?
[09:59] <t0ny-p40> bah, too late
[09:59] <nothlit> KorN[CM] , also, gnome-system-monitor shows that info
[10:00] <terapicodave> where are default applications like for http:// links set? i've tried the preferred apps and setting firefox as default but for some reason epiphany keeps coming up when I click a link from kopete
[10:00] <nothlit> terapicodave, gconf-editor
[10:00] <jonathan8di> It still says it can't find the include file: iostream, but it outputs to the terminal window fine.  So obviously it can find the include file.  Weird.
[10:00] <nothlit> terapicodave, or mabbe update-alternatives
[10:00] <SniZ> nothlit, i wanna play and capture stream-radio in one time
[10:01] <terapicodave> i'm in gconf-editor but there's a lot in there...any further guidance you can offer?
[10:01] <t0ny-p40> any know if its possible to use a backpack parallel cdrom?
[10:01] <t0ny-p40> ... to install ubuntu?
[10:01] <nothlit> SniZ, reread the link i gave you
[10:01] <KorN[CM] > is ntfs-3g fastest NTFS "driver"
[10:01] <KorN[CM] > cause it seems slower than my old NTFS (win2k3)
[10:01] <KorN[CM] > its raid 0
[10:02] <nothlit> SniZ, it links to a StreamRipper document, that tells you how to use streamtuner and ripper, and only access the stream once
[10:02] <KorN[CM] > fakeraid
[10:02] <nothlit> SniZ, it uses streamripper and creates a relay
[10:02] <SniZ> ok
[10:03] <nothlit> KorN[CM] , i'm not sure of the speed of the kernel ntfs driver (read only) vs ntfs-3g, but ntfs-3g is much faster than captiventfs
[10:05] <SniZ> nothlit, no it create 2 same streams!
[10:06] <nothlit> SniZ, it creates a relay. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Streamripper
[10:06] <SniZ> nothlit, no: tcp        0      0 192.168.86.133:46497    81.25.32.97:8000        ESTABLISHED
[10:06] <SniZ> tcp        0      0 192.168.86.133:33901    81.25.32.97:8000        ESTABLISHED
[10:07] <dxdt> I have no idea where a program just installed to, but I need to export a path for it to use, is there a way I can find where files were put?
[10:07] <enat> hey, i just tried to enable hyper threading by adding 'ht=on' to the kernel parametres, but it doesn't seem to be working
[10:07] <enat> any idea?
[10:07] <KorN[CM] > ah well I suppose I shouldn't be complaining, at least it works :)
[10:08] <OzoneCo> dxdt se nebraska?
[10:08] <nothlit> dxdt, whereis programname
[10:08] <dxdt> OzoneCo, yeah
[10:09] <brianski> anyone know how to get evolution to store sent mail on the imap server by default instead of a local copy?
[10:09] <dxdt> nothlit, doesn't help me, in fact it already knows where the executable is, but the program instantly exits and tells me to set the path to its other files basically.  Problem is I'm not sure where that is
[10:09] <nothlit> dxdt, well its probably in /usr/share/<programname>
[10:10] <dxdt> nothlit, tried already, not there :-/
[10:10] <nothlit> and you put EXPORT VARIABLE="BLAH" in your .bashrc
[10:10] <enat> ah! never mind, i see where i went wrong, will reboot to test
[10:10] <nothlit> dxdt, what program is this
[10:10] <dxdt> root.  (not like the superuser but a physics thing from root.cern.ch)
[10:11] <Signori> Hello
[10:11] <dxdt> just shares the name which makes it more confusing if you try to do searches for it.  You can guess what pollutes the results
[10:11] <Ayabara> I try to add stuff to my PATH in .bash_profile, but it seems someone/something else is overruling me and setting an absolute PATH. Where should I look?
[10:11] <smartman> guys i'm realy feel tird from that problim any programe can solve me that [There is no available decoder] 
[10:12] <SniZ> nothlit, mplayer http://stream.adsl.by:8000/drumnbass -vo -dumpstream -dumpfile dnb.mp3       <= its more usefull
[10:12] <smartman> wher i can get tjay  decoder
[10:13] <Signori> Can any1 help me ... i've tried several times to install ubuntu 6.10 but freezing all the time when install begin
[10:13] <mneptok> Signori: did you md5sum the ISO, and burn at </= 4x?
[10:14] <EnsignRedshirt> Ayabara: I change PATH in .bashrc, e.g.: export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
[10:14] <Signori> yes i have installed that at my old comp already
[10:16] <mneptok> Signori: try passing noacpi as a kernel option
[10:16] <nothlit> SniZ, *shrug* its up to you
[10:16] <SniZ> :(
[10:16] <nothlit> Ayabara, /etc/profile
[10:16] <brianski> are there any good gnome email clients (evolution and thunderbird, imo are not "good") ?
[10:17] <daschl> try sylpheed-claws
[10:17] <enat> hi, i'm having trouble enabling hyper threading (on dapper)
[10:17] <v0x> Where in gnome do I set what default application should be used to open excel-files? I dont want to use openoffice as the default application
[10:17] <Signori> mneptok: thank you ... i will try
[10:17] <daschl> but brianski, tell me what you need that these do do not have
[10:17] <enat> i've read that smp support has been built into the default kernel, so there are no longer -smp kernels
[10:17] <EnsignRedshirt> brianski: I think you'll have explain what you mean by "good", then.
[10:17] <mneptok> v0x: right click an .xls
[10:17] <nothlit> dxdt, my `locate root` isn't that polluted, even with 3 linux systems installed
[10:17] <enat> and that all i'd need to do to enable it, is add 'ht=on' to the boot parameters
[10:17] <brianski> EnsignRedshirt, just wondering what else is out there and commonly used
[10:17] <enat> which hasn't done anything..
[10:18] <SurfnKid> hello could anyone tell me if they can get to this ? http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1050
[10:18] <SurfnKid> please
[10:18] <brianski> daschl, well in evolution i can't figure out how to 1) save my sent mail to my imap server instead of locally 2) set my from address to the delivered-to when replying
[10:18] <enat> SurfnKid: yes
[10:18] <SurfnKid> hmm
[10:18] <brianski> besides that i'd be completely happy with it
[10:18] <enat> SurfnKid: yes as in it connects
[10:18] <enat> heh
[10:18] <enat> "ICY 404 Resource Not Found" .. etc
[10:18] <daschl> brianski, try sylpheed-claws
[10:18] <SurfnKid> ohh
[10:18] <SurfnKid> gotcha :)
[10:19] <brianski> daschl, i'm looking at it - does it do those things?
[10:19] <enat> anybody here that's successfully enabled hyper threading on dapper?
[10:19] <enat> at all? :(
[10:19] <SurfnKid> um
[10:19] <SurfnKid> I've installed it on a Dell
[10:19] <bXi> yo
[10:19] <SurfnKid> but I dont know if its enabled
[10:19] <bXi> i have some issue with apache/php
[10:19] <SurfnKid> didnt know you had to
[10:19] <SniZ>  wget http://stream.adsl.by:8000/drumnbass  | mplayer drumnbass
[10:20] <enat> grep processor /proc/cpuinfo
[10:20] <brianski> enat, you know that its arguable whether hyperthreading helps or hurts performance, right?
[10:20] <enat> that should tell you
[10:20] <enat> brianski: yeah, pretty much
[10:20] <enat> i just want to judge for myself
[10:20] <brianski> enat, fair enough. do you have an smp kernel?
[10:20] <EnsignRedshirt> enat: Hmmm... I have a basic install... I thought it "just worked".
[10:20] <v0x> mneptok: If I open gnome-commander, rightclick my file and click change on default application, nothing happens. I guess that's not correct :)
[10:20] <enat> well .. i was under the impression smp support was built into default ubuntu kernel ..
[10:21] <SurfnKid> EnsignRedshirt, same here
[10:21] <enat> and that there are no long -smp ones for download, which apt-get confirms
[10:21] <enat> s/long/longer
[10:21] <nothlit> v0x, just use nautilus to change the default app
[10:21] <brianski> enat, yeah smp is in by default in edgy, dunno about dapper or earlier
[10:21] <brianski> but that doesn't mean ht wil automatically work
[10:21] <_james> what is a metacity theme and how can i install it?
[10:21] <brianski> there's some extra config you ahve to do on that i think
[10:21] <frogzoo> enat: you want the 686 kernel, which is the SMP one
[10:21] <enat> what i've discovered is you have to add 'ht=on' to the boot parameters..
[10:22] <enat> oh!
[10:22] <enat> gotcha
[10:22] <brianski> _james, a metacity theme is what makes your desktop look poop brown  in ubuntu :)
[10:22] <EnsignRedshirt> enat: /proc/cpuinfo shows two cpus for me.
[10:22] <enat> cheers frogzoo :D
[10:22] <enat> EnsignRedshirt: heh, lucky you, now i'll get it working too
[10:22] <EnsignRedshirt> enat: I didn't have to configure anything manually.
[10:22] <enat> i'm running on the -386 kernel
[10:22] <nothlit> _james, a metacity theme is a theme for the window decorator, metacity (gnome's default), and you install it by placing it in /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes
[10:22] <enat> not the -686
[10:22] <EnsignRedshirt> enat: Ah, I am using -686
[10:22] <dxdt> nothlit, I think something must be messed up, I don't really see anything after locate that would be its libraries or anything like that.
[10:22] <brianski> enat, right, that's fine
[10:22] <nothlit> enabl, you're runing dapper?
[10:22] <enat> thanks for your help too brianski :)
[10:22] <nothlit> dxdt, sudo updatedb
[10:22] <ardchoille42> _james, Metacity is the default window manager in gnome
[10:22] <nomego> anyone using mono?
[10:23] <brianski> there is very little diff between a 386 and 686 optimized kernel, which is why in edgy forward there is only one generic kernel for x86
[10:23] <_james> nothlit: i will place it on /usr/share/themes on tar.gz file or the unzip one?
[10:25] <enat> ya, i didn't think there'd be much preformance gain .. which is why i left it with -386
[10:25] <enat> s/preformance/performance
[10:25] <nothlit> _james, you need to extract it first
[10:25] <v0x> nothlit: Okey, so I change to gnumeric, doubleclick my file and gnome says "unsupported file format", but opens gnumeric, although empty?
[10:25] <_james> nothlit: ok
[10:25] <v0x> If i open gnumeric manually and then open the file, it works allright
[10:25] <nothlit> _james, you can also use System -> Preferences -> Themes, and just drag the .tar.gz file onto that window
[10:25] <nothlit> v0x, you used 1.right click 2. properties 3. open with ?
[10:25] <ardchoille42> _james, Is that a multi-theme tarball? Does it have more than one metacity theme in it?
[10:25] <v0x> yep
[10:25] <startswithz__> hello so how do I open ports for port forwarding?
[10:27] <nothlit> startswithz, you edit your router configuration
[10:27] <_james> ardchoille42:   it only have one theme inside the folder
[10:27] <enat> startswithz__: port forwarding from .. your router to your pc? or your pc to another networked device?
[10:27] <startswithz__> router to pc
[10:27] <ardchoille42> _james, ok, then the theme installer should be ok, just drag the tarball into the theme window
[10:27] <startswithz__> but I am still getting a nat error
[10:27] <_james> nothlit:   it try to open the themes and drag the file to install but it says that invalid format.. the file is on  tar.gz
[10:27] <enat> well .. for port forwarding, you'll have to give your box a static IP
[10:27] <_james> ardchoille42:    it try to open the themes and drag the file to install but it says that invalid format.. the file is on  tar.gz
[10:27] <startswithz__> oh yeah huh
[10:27] <enat> otherwise it won't be happening, cause everytime the connection is renewed, you'll have a new, dynamically given IP
[10:27] <dxdt> nothlit, How can I temporarily set the variable without adding it to my .bashrc?  I thought it was just EXPORT $foo="/bar/" ?
[10:27] <ardchoille42> _james, That's why I never use the theme installer, it doesn't handle all themes the same. You can unpack the theme into /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes
[10:27] <enat> and after that, just login to your router and have a look
[10:27] <startswithz__> how do i set that up in kubuntu?
[10:27] <eXistenZ> How can I prevent the terminal to expand the ~ sign to the path of the dir, when clicking tab?
[10:28] <enat> dxdt: remove the preceding $
[10:29] <lskd-255> !chroot
[10:29] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:29] <enat> (expoert foo="/bar")
[10:29] <enat> export, even
[10:29] <nothlit> dxdt, yeah it is
[10:29] <_james> ardchoille42:  ok
[10:29] <nothlit> dxdt, but without the $
[10:29] <frogzoo> dxdt: no $
[10:29] <dxdt> oh
[10:30] <enat> eXistenZ: what do you mean?
[10:30] <dxdt> OMG after all this work the path it wanted was just "/"  I kid you not.  Oh wow haha
[10:30] <dxdt> thanks for all the help
[10:30] <frogzoo> eXistenZ: \~
[10:31] <Ayabara> EnsignRedshirt, nothlit, the problem was that I had my PATH in .bash_profile, and that one was never ran
[10:31] <nothlit> dxdt, rofl?
[10:31] <eXistenZ> enat, say I click ~/public_html/somefile then tab, it will expand it to /home/username/public_html...
[10:31] <mneptok> Ayabara: .bash_prfile is not sourced for non login shells.
[10:32] <enat> well .. it doesn't do that to me, but the advice frogzoo offered should work
[10:32] <enat> just the \ escape character before the ~
[10:32] <enat> s/just/use
[10:32] <enat> :S
[10:33] <v0x> nothlit: Problem solved, I had gnumeric-gtk installed, reinstalled regular gnumeric and it works. Thanks anyway
[10:33] <nothlit> Ayabara, you could have used /etc/profile
[10:33] <nothlit> v0x, ah
[10:33] <dxdt> dxdt, yeah the whole thing was really dumb lol  thanks for the help though still
[10:33] <EnsignRedshirt> enat: Try this: ls ~/<tab>
[10:33] <enat> eXistenZ: oh, now  i get ya, heh, sry
[10:33] <enat> EnsignRedshirt: yup, i see what he means now
[10:33] <esc> anyone use kde here?
[10:33] <enat> well .. i'm not sure *how* to prevent that
[10:34] <enat> but i also don't understand why it bothers you ?
[10:34] <mneptok> enat: #kubuntu is down the hall
[10:34] <nothlit> v0x, you could prolly use sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gnumeric-gtk /usr/bin/gnumeric then or something
[10:34] <enat> mneptok: wot?
[10:34] <mneptok> enat: sorry
[10:34] <enat> heh :)
[10:34] <mneptok> esc: #kubuntu is down the hall
[10:35] <nothlit> !anyone | esc
[10:35] <ubotu> esc: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:35] <Ayabara> mneptok, nothlit, ok. thanks
[10:36] <mneptok> Ayabara: use ~/.profile
[10:36] <mneptok> Ayabara: i am working on fixing this for Feisty as we speak :)
[10:36] <frogzoo> eXistenZ: I think you want the env var 'expand-tilde=off'
[10:36] <_james> ardchoille42:  i still can't install the theme... the maker of the theme says that i have to install compizthemer.. what is that and where can i get that ?
[10:37] <mneptok> eXistenZ: what shell are you using?
[10:37] <enat> are variables allowed hythens?
[10:37] <enat> in teh bash
[10:38] <eXistenZ> mneptok, gnome terminal, bash
[10:38] <enat> hyphens, even
[10:38] <mneptok> eXistenZ: are you sure? did you run chsh or call bash explicitly? bash is *not* Edgy's default shell.
[10:39] <enat> eXistenZ: echo $SHELL
[10:39] <vleon> how do i check gateway in ubuntu?
[10:39] <vleon> *network gateway
[10:39] <enat> vleon: route
[10:41] <vleon> what does * under gateway means?
[10:41] <enat> it means it's not set
[10:42] <ardchoille42> _james, That may be a compiz theme, if it is, it won't work without compiz
[10:43] <ardchoille42> _james, What is the URL of that theme, I'll check it out
[10:43] <vleon> ohh  thanks enat
[10:44] <enat> sweet as :)
[10:46] <vleon> enat please help me i try to solve a network problem in live chat with techniacl support but im new to ubuntu
[10:47] <vleon> and they dons support linux so when he tells me check something i need to know how to check
[10:47] <enat> i'll try to help if you describe the problem to me
[10:47] <vleon> he askes for the ip adress my computer gets from the ppoe modem
[10:48] <enat> yeah?
[10:48] <vleon> the problem is complicated ill copy paste my explanation
[10:48] <enat> perhaps /query enat and then paste it
[10:48] <enat> the room might not appreciate being flooded :P
[10:48] <vleon> thats a problem
[10:49] <vleon> can you please go with me to a temp room
[10:49] <vleon> im not registred so private massages wont show up :\
[10:49] <Iphigenia> Are there any Bluefish users here who can help set up the external viewer (firefox} under xubuntu??
[10:49] <vleon> #temprout
[10:49] <enat> #temp421
[10:49] <enat> ah k
[10:49] <mneptok> vleon: are you running the PPoE daemon during ifup?
[10:50] <ceztko> hi!
[10:51] <Iphigenia> hi caztko
[10:51] <Iphigenia> ceztko
[10:52] <Iphigenia> so, no BlueFish masters on 2night?
[10:52] <ceztko> Iphigenia: "caztko" is somewhat vulgar :-D
[10:52] <Iphigenia> oops sorry
[10:52] <Iphigenia> what language?
[10:54] <hander59> hi. i have big problemm with starting ubuntu. i have partition ext3 (home) and it won`t start, becuase of the (i think) bad file names (L*&$in.Par@1mp3- something like this). force check can`t get rid with it, and ubuntu refuses to start. what to do?
[10:54] <ceztko> Iphigenia: italian. Could be similar to ...well.. "dick"
[10:54] <hander59> there is red colored "failed" and the only way is to reset the computer. but i must enter the ubuntu
[10:55] <mneptok> hander59: boot off a LiveCD and try to fix it
[10:55] <Iphigenia> ceztko: forgive my poor typing and non-existent Italian
[10:55] <hander59> mneptok - is there faster way? i`ve windows in this computer also
[10:55] <ceztko> Iphigenia: ahaha, no matter
[10:56] <hander59> mneptok: and how to use this livecd? i not see any "heal the hdd" option there
[10:56] <ceztko> all: is there a supported way to dump the packages database that use apt and load it in a offline (without any connection) machine?
[10:56] <mneptok> hander59: i do not use, understand, nor recommend Windows for *anything*
[10:56] <hander59> mneptok - talk it to my boss
[10:56] <hander59> mneptok: how to use this livecd to heal?
[10:56] <mneptok> hander59: boot it and read the menu
[10:57] <ceztko> mneptok: games?
[10:58] <mneptok> ceztko: ?
 hander59: i do not use, understand, nor recommend Windows for *anything*
[10:59] <mneptok> ceztko: oh, you mean "don't you use Windows for games?" no. i do not. i use my computer for work. games belong on consoles. :)
[10:59] <ardchoille42> mneptok, I recommend Windows CD's for coasters or to fix a wobbly table.. those are the only two beneficial uses of a Windows CD :)
[11:00] <holycow> !wpa
[11:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:03] <riotkittie> console schmonsole
[11:03] <eyalw> help with X, while trying to config the xorg.conf to support my new Dell 19" resolution, I massed up the config file while using the app $ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , and I exidantly written over my back up :( , now, beryl dosent work, which means something is misconfigured correctly, among other things. and, I still have the resolution problem. help plz
[11:04] <cappiz> is there a way to downgrade beryl ?
[11:05] <Jowi> eyalw, make sure you have a Section DRI and a Section Extensions with Composite enabled. also if you are running Beryl with AIGLX you need that option in it as well. if you put your xorg.conf to the pastebin I will alter it for you.
[11:06] <Jowi> cappiz, ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:06] <cappiz> i did
[11:07] <frogzoo> cappiz: best to wait for the next beta release in a day or two
[11:07] <cappiz> yeah wel... no way to downgrade ? :P
[11:07] <cappiz> now it crashes  :P
[11:07] <Giant_sea_turtle> mabyb tun down ur settings?
[11:08] <eyalw> Jowi: what do u mean, I don't know any of the stuff. i'm a newbie. and how can u alter if for me. another Q, how can i let the X configure the xorg.conf by itself according to harsware
[11:08] <frogzoo> cappiz: not worth figuring out how to fix it, when the next upgrade will work
[11:08] <cappiz> k
[11:09] <eyalw> how can i let the X configure the xorg.conf by itself according to harsware
[11:09] <frogzoo> eyalw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:09] <tenzin> whats the command to start an "icon" with root?
[11:09] <Jowi> eyalw, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will be more or less automatic. but, if you've installed beryl and now it does not start after you did that there are some stuff missing in the config file. "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then copy the text and put it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org then give me the URL
[11:11] <eyalw> Jowi: ok
[11:11] <jenda> How can I set up a flash drive so that there is one 2 gig FAT partition, and one 2 gig encrypted EXT3 partition?
[11:11] <jenda> (Yes, it is a 4 gig)
[11:12] <frogzoo> jenda: fdisk if you know what you're doing, or gparted
[11:12] <OrTigaS> i just following the easy method in NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g. when i'm in locationg my ntfs partition i saw different one(my own) than what is in the "how to"
[11:13] <bigboss> llo
[11:13] <OrTigaS> this is my partition --->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:13] <DrO|A> Can somebody help me get fglrx working? i cant get OpenGL string to be anything other than MESA
[11:13] <bigboss> hello
[11:14] <holycow> wow
[11:14] <holycow> well i guess this wap issue is resolved
[11:14] <bigboss> can anyone hear me?
[11:14] <OrTigaS> and in the how to is like this ---> /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[11:14] <eyalw> Jowi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2129/
[11:14] <bigboss> or read me
[11:14] <holycow> now we need to integrate that into the networking app
[11:14] <holycow> neato
[11:14] <holycow> bigboss, nope
[11:14] <bigboss> ok thanks
[11:14] <holycow> bigboss, we are a figment of your imagination'
[11:14] <bigboss> what are we talking about
[11:14] <holycow> pinch your self
[11:14] <bigboss> ubuntu
[11:14] <lskd-255> my problem has to do with a chroot environment; while installing gnupg,  a perl warning says check to see if local settings are supported on your system ........ of the three check points, I lack  the second:         LC_ALL = (unset)   ... Is there a quick way to fix that?
[11:14] <holycow> which 'we'?
[11:15] <bigboss> linux ubuntu is better than windows xp
[11:15] <holycow> bigboss, well thats a swell way to butter us up :)
[11:15] <holycow> now what would YOU like to chat about?
[11:15] <holycow> *cough*
[11:15] <bigboss> yeah im on ubuntu right now
[11:15] <Jowi> eyalw, ok. now, do you know if have AIGLX installed or if you use XGL??
[11:16] <bigboss> where is every one from
[11:16] <holycow> Jowi, just use aiglx ... its built into xorg and its the right solution anyway
[11:16] <eyalw> Jowi: i use XGL
[11:16] <holycow> xgl is a mistake
[11:16] <riotkittie> i'm from the internet
[11:16] <bigboss> im from maryland
[11:16] <Jowi> holycow, not if he uses happer :)
[11:16] <bigboss> well i live in maryland
[11:16] <Jowi> Dapper, not Happer
[11:17] <holycow> i gotta git me some of this 'hopper'
[11:17] <jenda> frogzoo: thanks, but gparted doesn't even allow me to resize the partition that's already there: no possible configurations for this FAT type :(
[11:17] <gunny01> where can i find a script that will automatic upload certian files to a remote ftp server on a regular basis?
[11:17] <Jowi> eyalw, dapper or edgy?
[11:17] <uniqueLikeYou> what is wrong with xgl?
[11:17] <holycow> its trying to rewrite x it self
[11:18] <holycow> in software you NEVER rewrite anything unless you REALLY REALLY BUGGERED it
[11:18] <holycow> instead what you do is modularize
[11:18] <holycow> then updated the modules instead
[11:18] <holycow> which is what xorg is doing
[11:18] <eyalw> Jowi: Edgy Eft
[11:18] <frogzoo> jenda: so delete the part'n and create a new one
[11:18] <holycow> and which is why they simply 'implemented' aiglx as a module instead of rewriting the whole damned thing
[11:18] <holycow> never mind that to rewrite something as fantasmic as xorg is a gargantuan task
[11:19] <holycow> lastly, the people writing glx are actually the poeple you see complaining about x on slashdot
[11:19] <holycow> like 'why does x haveto have remote networking built in'
[11:19] <holycow> they want to basically turn x into windows 95 running on gl enabled cards
[11:19] <uniqueLikeYou> does aiglx give the same functionality as xgl?
[11:19] <jenda> frogzoo: I promise I was just gonna try that ;)
[11:19] <Jowi> eyalw, ok, try this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2130/ (copy the text from the textbox below so you do not get the linenumbers)
[11:19] <holycow> i.e. its basically stupid
[11:19] <holycow> uniqueLikeYou, absolutely
[11:20] <uniqueLikeYou> does it work with the commercial ATI drivers?
[11:21] <sabayon-admin> hey
[11:21] <eyalw> Jowi: just paste instead of the current xorg
[11:21] <Jowi> eyalw, yes
[11:21] <holycow> actually its EXACTLY why you want to use it, commercial cos will support aiglx not glx ... its easier for them to support aiglx.  nvidia already does, i think ati does as well because according to the forums ati people run beryl thus they must have aiglx supporting drivers
[11:22] <holycow> but you will haveto google it to be sure
[11:22] <holycow> nite
[11:22] <dragon565> ne1 know why when playing music i get a strange ticking noise behind mi music?
[11:22] <frogzoo> hollywoodstar: you can run aiglx on nvidia, ati needs glx for the moment
[11:23] <frogzoo> umm, s/glx/xgl
[11:23] <eyalw> Jowi: just for me to know, what did you add to the conf?
[11:24] <Jowi> eyalw, the Composite and AIGLX option.
[11:24] <dragon565> ne1 know why when playing music i get a strange ticking noise behind mi music? ne1?
[11:24] <riotkittie> why not read it and find out? :P
[11:24] <eyalw> Jowi: but i dont use AIGLX..?
[11:24] <frogzoo> uniqueLikeYou: use xgl for the moment if you're running beryl, like holycow mentioned, aiglx will replace it in time
[11:24] <ceztko> all: I need to upgrade a system that don't even have a slow internet connection. I'd like to use apt-zip for it, but it seems it needs an updated packages database to work properly. How can i save entirely the database that apt-get use to find info about packages and use it in another machine? Is there a supported way?
[11:24] <Jowi> eyalw, try it. if it doesn't work you just put a # infront of that option.
[11:25] <eyalw> Jowi: hmm...ok,
[11:25] <frogzoo> dragon565: are you using xine or gstreamer ?
[11:25] <dragon565> sec ill jsut check tht ^^
[11:26] <dragon565> xine
[11:26] <mneptok> ceztko: check out apt-cacher and apt-mirror
[11:26] <eyalw> Jowi: now do i only alt+ctrl+del, or do i nedd to reboot?
[11:26] <Jowi> eyalw, ctrl-alt-backspace should do it
[11:27] <uniqueLikeYou> frogzoo: unfortunately it seems that my card isn't supported by xgl
[11:29] <eyalw> Jowi: it still dosent work
[11:29] <Jowi> eyalw, "glxinfo | grep direct" does it say "yes"?
[11:29] <eyalw> Jowi: no
[11:30] <eyalw> Jowi: hmm. one moment
[11:30] <Jowi> eyalw, so this is actually a problem with your video card driver
[11:30] <m2k> hi
[11:31] <eyalw> Jowi: ok, im back. so it sais now
[11:31] <eyalw> *no
[11:31] <Jowi> eyalw, so this is actually a problem with your video card driver.
[11:31] <Jowi> !nvidia | eyalw
[11:31] <ubotu> eyalw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:32] <v0x> Hello, when I try to add a username (support.admin) to my samba domain it complains with the error message inputtdb_update_sam: Failing to store a SAM_ACCOUNT for [support.admin]  without a primary group RID
[11:32] <v0x> im guessing its because of the dot in the username
[11:32] <eyalw> Jowi: no. it has to be a problem with the X not configured right according to the card
[11:33] <eyalw> Jowi: i have used beryl over a month. it did work! i have installed nvidia driver a month ago
[11:33] <Jowi> eyalw, I have no idea on how to configure a nvidia card specifically. did it once and i just followed that guide and it worked fine. can't help with that. see in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:34] <dragon565> ... why does almost every one of the default sources for apt tell me connection refused?
[11:35] <frogzoo> eyalw: your beryl stopped working with the last update?
[11:35] <Tomcat_> eyalw: Crashes?
[11:35] <frogzoo> beryl is broke *sobs*
[11:36] <Tomcat_> frogzoo: For you too? What card? How is it broken?
[11:36] <frogzoo> Tomcat_: the last update was packaged badly, the next beta will fix it
[11:36] <Jowi> frogzoo, atm eyalw doesn't even have Direct rendering enabled for his card...
[11:36] <Tomcat_> frogzoo: Mh. No problems there. Works like a charm on the laptop anyway. But crashes randomly on NVidia at home.
[11:37] <eyalw> Tomcat_: hmm... it dosent start, it shows in the tray icon. but its not doing the stuff
[11:37] <frogzoo> eyalw: Jowi is correct 'fglxr |grep render' should report yes, if not, read the docs again
[11:38] <dam_> how do i backup all the system updates for ubuntu, so i can copy to other new system?
[11:38] <frogzoo> err, glxinfo |grep render
[11:39] <frogzoo> dam_: copy all the debs from /var/cache/apt
[11:41] <McMadd> I have a (working) dual screen setup. Is it possible to get a terminal on the second screen when I'm not in X?
[11:42] <McMadd> Or have a 'clone' setup?
[11:42] <Slart> Got a question. if I mount a filesystem using sshfs twice (same command line, same location etc). Will I get 2 sshfs processes? or does it check for existing connections first? or will it fail because there is already a volume mounted on that mountpoint?
[11:43] <GaiaX11> Hi. Any of you has already installed Edgy (6.10) using the alternate CD? How was it? Did you have any problems with the X?
[11:44] <Slart> I used the live cd.. but X is always a bit of a problem =)
[11:44] <Tomcat_> GaiaX11: Yes, no problems.
[11:45] <GaiaX11> Slart: Did you fix it? I mean the X problems?
[11:45] <Slart> GaiaX11: yes.. it was nothing big.. but there are lots of small annoyances.. nothing that kept it from running
[11:46] <GaiaX11> Tomcat_: I had a problem with the mouse. It froze the system and I did not manage to fix that.
[11:47] <cbx33> hey guys, how can I change the default compressions/settings in the ubuntu remote desktop thingy
[11:47] <mcmuffinofdoom> lo
[11:48] <Slart> cbx33: you're sharing your desktop? or you're connecting to someone elses
[11:48] <denardo> Hi. I'm trying to communicate between my laptop running Edgy with a Kensington 33348 USB Bluetooth dongle and my phone. The phone sees the laptop but the connection fails.
[11:48] <cbx33> Slart: I'm doing both ;)
[11:48] <cbx33> I hold both ends of the string
[11:48] <mcmuffinofdoom> my friend installed ubuntu on his machine (i'm spreading the word ^_^), but hiswireless internet adapter isn't recognised
[11:49] <hotti> mcmuffinofdoom: you should be more specified about his wireless adapter, the chipset or the name could be helpfull
[11:49] <Slart> cbx33: hehe.. when connecting to another server I think it's up to the server to chose compression etc.. when sharing your desktop, I think you're using vnc.. so there ought to be some kind of .-file in your home directory for defualt settings..   .vnc or something similar.. check the manual for vnc for specific filename
[11:50] <cbx33> ok
[11:50] <mcmuffinofdoom> i know, i'mlooking it up now (it wasn't on the CD cover >_>)
[11:50] <cbx33> thanks Slart
[11:50] <Slart> cbx33: np, good luck
[11:50] <LinTux> what is the command in consoile to install mySQL server
[11:51] <mcmuffinofdoom> hotti: the folder on the CD says "WL-011v2_WL-016v2", and it's a sitecom
[11:51] <YoG> anyone knows how to get a list of files from samba?
[11:52] <denardo> I've tried to follow a lot of different instructions to handle this Bluetooth connector, including downloading drivers (and not knowing what if anything I should do with them) and am baffled.
[11:52] <ubinsp> hello
[11:52] <Jowi> !bluetooth | denardo
[11:52] <ubotu> denardo: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:52] <fredl> hey, anybody running Linux on one of those VIA nano boards yet?
[11:52] <steel_lady> hi! I got some old laptop with red hat and I am trying to install ubuntu. I put the CD to start ubuntu from CD. how can i see now how much it has of swap and how can I know if I have to do something with partitions before installing?
[11:53] <denardo> ubotu: thanks, looking now.
[11:53] <ubinsp> Who can explain how to use aes-loop to crypt a disk?
[11:53] <Slart> fredl: yes there are.. I will be soon too =)
[11:53] <mneptok> steel_lady: the installer walks you through partitioning
[11:53] <steel_lady> yes but how can I know do I want more of swap for eg?
[11:53] <Slart> fredl: at least the mini-itx boards have good support.. nano's can't be to far behind
[11:54] <fredl> Slart - just looking at this Dutch site that *finally* has the nano's in stock :)
[11:54] <mneptok> steel_lady: how much RAM do you have?
[11:54] <Jowi> fredl, only got a epia M1000. haven't tried a nano board yet
[11:54] <steel_lady> I don't know!
[11:54] <fredl> The nano boards are rather expensive actually
[11:54] <steel_lady> it is not my laptop! I want to see all that it has
[11:55] <mneptok> steel_lady: so boot RH and find out
[11:55] <fredl> 375 euri!
[11:55] <steel_lady> that's why I am asking
[11:55] <Slart> fredl: ah.. I was looking at the mini-itx ones myself.. I don't need my computer to be that small
[11:55] <steel_lady> I can not boot RH because it has some pass
[11:56] <mneptok> steel_lady: so ask the owner for the password
[11:56] <mcmuffinofdoom> ok, it's a sitecom WL-011v2 or WL-015v2 (CD says both in the name), and according to some people on the following sites is has a RAlink RT2561 chipset
[11:56] <mcmuffinofdoom> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2327613
[11:56] <steel_lady> I am in device manager of ubunt. why doesn't it tell me there?
[11:56] <ubinsp> Who use AES-LOOP ?
[11:56] <ben_> Hi! Juste a little problem: I used to create a macro on F9 key: "xterm -e mySsh.sh" where mySsh makes 'read -ep "Server: " server && read -ep "User: " user && ssh $user@$server' but now, I have error: "read: 1: Illegal option -e" Any Idea of what happens?
[11:56] <mneptok> steel_lady: open a terminal
[11:56] <steel_lady> ok
[11:57] <steel_lady> then?
[11:57] <mneptok> df -h
[11:57] <mcmuffinofdoom> steel_lady: type 1337 stuff =)
[11:57] <steel_lady> stuff?
[11:57] <mcmuffinofdoom> nono,i wasjust joking, sorry
[11:58] <mneptok> steel_lady: df -h
[11:58] <cyphase> what does everyone think about having ndiswrapper installed by default with some kind of GUI interface in Feisty? that way, if a card doesn't work, people can just download the windows driver
[11:58] <mneptok> mcmuffinofdoom: please do not confuse people asking for help
[11:58] <steel_lady> the problem is that there keyboard is fucked up, I can't find -
[11:58] <mcmuffinofdoom> sorry,i thought she would get the joke, and as you see i appologized for confusing he
[11:58] <mcmuffinofdoom> r
[11:59] <steel_lady> ok I found it
[11:59] <mneptok> !language | steel_lady
[11:59] <ubotu> steel_lady: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:59] <mcmuffinofdoom> or him
[11:59] <jenda> how does one install a font? (ubuntu-title) and do I have to restart inkscape?
[11:59] <steel_lady> ok ubotu I am sorry
[12:00] <mneptok> jenda: you have to move the font to the correct location and run fontconfig to update the font cache
[12:00] <Slart> ben_ : check the manual for the "read" command.. perhaps they changed the options
[12:00] <jenda> mneptok: great... and the location?
[12:00] <riotkittie> uh. it doesnt tell you passwords in device manager because that would be ridiculously insecure.
[12:00] <steel_lady> it gives me something strange
[12:00] <mneptok> jenda: there is a system-wide location anu a ~/ location
[12:00] <mneptok> *and
[12:01] <dam_> how do i copy /var/cache/apt folder to my home DIR.
[12:01] <dam_> ?
[12:01] <steel_lady> unionfs 1.2g, varrun 506M varlock, udev devshm lrm tmpfs all of 506M
[12:01] <mneptok> dam_: why would you do that?
[12:02] <mneptok> steel_lady: sounds like the internal drive's partitions are not mounted.
[12:02] <mneptok> steel_lady: try "free"
[12:02] <dam_> well to back it up 1st, then share it over the network and copy to a new UBUNTU machine , so i dont have to download updates again
[12:02] <mneptok> dam_: use apt-cacher for that
[12:03] <jenda> mneptok: and where is the ~/?
[12:03] <denardo> ubotu: OK, I've followed the instructions on that page. My phone's discoverable, but a "sudo hidd --search" doesn't find it, even after I tried the other command that they suggest for Edgy.
[12:04] <mneptok> jenda: ~/ = your home
[12:04] <mneptok> !fonts | jenda
[12:04] <ubotu> jenda: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:04] <Slart> denardo: ubuto is a bot
[12:04] <jenda> mneptok: thanks for hand holding ;)
[12:04] <steel_lady> mem: 1036036, -/+ cache 123552 used 912484 free swap 2096440
[12:04] <mneptok> jenda: i live to serve :)
[12:05] <denardo> Ah. But a helpful bot :-) Any humans have any suggestions?
[12:05] <mneptok> steel_lady: that machine has 1GB of RAM. you'll need minimal (256MB) swap, if any.
[12:05] <Slart> denardo: connecting a cell phone via bluetooth?
[12:05] <denardo> Slart: yes
[12:05] <mcmuffinofdoom> So, is there a wireless network card doctor in the room? )
[12:05] <steel_lady> I want 1G cache
[12:06] <Slart> denardo: I did just that a week ago.. nearly put me in the loony hospital
[12:06] <steel_lady> no 1G swap
[12:06] <Peres_> i have this weird problem on one of my ubuntu machines : SHift-ENter --> and it restarts gdm...
[12:06] <mneptok> steel_lady: that machine has 1GB of RAM. you'll need minimal (256MB) swap, if any. seriously.
[12:06] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows howto get Soundblaster Audigy LS working in Dapper?
[12:07] <McMadd> I have a (working) dual screen setup. Is it possible to get a terminal on the second screen when I'm not in X?
[12:07] <steel_lady> but why? I need the same quantity od swap as I have of RAM and it needs to run a server!
[12:07] <Slart> denardo: I never got it to work.. but I could connect the phone.. apparently .. because I managed to mess up my phonebook
[12:07] <denardo> Slart: Ah, so at least it's not me being an idiot :-) It works when booted into Windoze XP, so I'm wondering if the phone's bluetooth is making some assumption about the pairing already being set up.
[12:08] <Slart> denardo: bluetooth is a kludge on linux
[12:08] <imme> I've got problems with my HD.
[12:08] <imme> I'm on a LiveCD a.t.m.
[12:08] <imme> http://pastebin.com/862757
[12:08] <Slart> denardo: I'll see if I can remember what I did
[12:08] <Zaggynl> aagh
[12:08] <Zaggynl> I had something muted \0/
[12:10] <Peres_> sorry i mean SHift-BAckspace, and my gmd restarts...i don't know why
[12:10] <mneptok> steel_lady: you do NOT need the same amount of smap as physical RAM with 1GB of RAM. trust me.
[12:10] <mcmuffinofdoom> =(
[12:10] <mneptok> *swap
[12:10] <michaelpo> hi.. i just installed ubuntu6.06... how do i make a shutdown button? at the moment i need to click the power icon.. then select shutdown at the login screen... how do i make a shutdown button?
[12:10] <mcmuffinofdoom> wirelessinternet adapter guru's in here?
[12:11] <McMadd> How can I alter the boot so that it doesn't start X (gdm) but a terminal program? (I think I need to be in /etc/rc2.d but forgot the symbolic link syntax)
[12:11] <slapin_nb> hi, all!
[12:11] <aspiringuser> I need to add a secondary SATA drive to my machine
[12:11] <mcmuffinofdoom> please =(
[12:11] <aspiringuser> so 1. format it 2. create a mountpoint for it 3. modify the fstab file, correct?
[12:12] <slapin_nb> do anybody knows how to win knows about routing on other side of pptp connection?
[12:12] <Peres_> anyone? normally ctrl-shift-backspace restarts gdm, but when i type shift-backspace, it already restarts gdm...
[12:12] <Jowi> McMadd, better to remove S13gdm from /etc/rc3.d and then make a new entry in grub to boot it (simply add " 3" without the quotes at the end of the kernel line)
[12:13] <Solicitous> does anyone know how to get an intel 82801G sound card working again after hibernate?
[12:13] <Jowi> McMadd, that way you can boot with or without X in grub
[12:13] <slapin_nb> when I conecto to VPN on win, routes are inserted, when by pptp client - no routes, only ppp interface
[12:13] <dam_> alrighty. i need to backup my apt DIR to USB so i can copy it to anothter PC without networking.
[12:13] <Solicitous> I've read the forums and the restarting or force-reload of alsa-utils doesn't work
[12:13] <cbx33> Slart not as easy as we thoght ;)
[12:13] <mcmuffinofdoom> this is my friends' card, and ubuntu won'tsee it =( >> http://sitecom.com/drivers_result.php?groupid=5&productid=205&version=V2;001
[12:13] <Slart> cbx33: no luck on the vnc file?
[12:14] <michaelpo> hi.. i just installed ubuntu6.06... how do i make a shutdown button? at the moment need 2 steps.. i need to click the power icon.. then select shutdown at the login screen... how do i make a one-click shutdown button?
[12:14] <cbx33> no i think it's vino instead
[12:14] <Slart> cbx33: and no vino-file?
[12:14] <cbx33> not as yet
[12:14] <Jowi> cbx33, simply install tightvnc or x11vnc (supports compression, not sure that vino does) and select the compression in the client.
[12:15] <cbx33> will let you know if I find it
[12:15] <cbx33> Jowi....ahh
[12:15] <cbx33> ok...
[12:15] <Jowi> cbx33, you can export :0 with x11vnc (tightvnc does not support that)
[12:15] <Jowi> !info x11vnc
[12:15] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[12:16] <Slart> denardo: ok.. did you use the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:16] <cbx33> yes, x11vnc is supposed to be for the running X session isn't it
[12:16] <McMadd> Jowi: it's a one time thing only. I've done it before ion the past but can't remember how
[12:17] <McMadd> Jowi: I want it to start 'screen' in stead of gdm
[12:17] <Peres_> grr@gdm...shift-backspace, guess how many times you type that.....answer:A-lot i tell u..
[12:18] <mcmuffinofdoom> this is my friends' wireless internet card, and ubuntu won't detect it =( ANyone knows how to solve it? >> http://sitecom.com/drivers_result.php?groupid=5&productid=205&version=V2;001
[12:18] <Jowi> McMadd, ok, so you need x11vnc to use the screen you already logged into. alternative you can use tightvnc and have a ~/.vnc/xstartup that dictates what wm will be launched when a connection is made.
[12:19] <KomiaPoika> hi
[12:19] <LinTux> what is the best GUI for Mysql server
[12:19] <Jowi> McMadd, if you use the xstartup method it will bypass gdm and directly start "xterm && rox-filer && openbox &"
[12:19] <Peres_> SHift-BAckspace, and my gmd restarts...i don't know why, it's frustrating, cause it's a fresh install (including beryl), i have 2 other machines working perfectly with ubuntu and beryl
[12:19] <denardo> Slart: Yup, I did. As I attempted to tell ubotu (not realizing he was a bot): OK, I've followed the instructions on that page. My phone's discoverable, but a "sudo hidd --search" doesn't find it, even after I tried the other command that they suggest for Edgy.
[12:19] <KomiaPoika> when i do wget http://www.some website/faq , it just downloads the whole website. how can i get wget to only download the right dir?
[12:19] <Jowi> McMadd, (that was just an example)
[12:20] <Slart> denardo: hmm.. same thing here (I'm trying this again).. can't remember what I did to find it... probably some voodoo
[12:21] <Slart> denardo: but I can find my computer from the phone (add device pn the phone)
[12:21] <McMadd> Jowi: you're thinking way to complex...
[12:21] <mcmuffinofdoom> can anyone helpme with my network card
[12:21] <mypapit> mcmuffinofdoom, what's up
[12:21] <michaelpo> !shutdown
[12:21] <mcmuffinofdoom> http://sitecom.com/drivers_result.php?groupid=5&productid=205&version=V2;001 << that's it,but ubuntu won'tdetect it
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <mcmuffinofdoom> I'm running Edgy
[12:22] <Slart> denardo: try hcitool scan
[12:22] <mcmuffinofdoom> mypapit:
[12:22] <alaisd> heyas
[12:22] <McMadd> Jowi: I think I can temporarily remove /etc/rc2.d/@S13gdm to stop the X session from starting
[12:23] <mcmuffinofdoom> mypapit: >	http://sitecom.com/drivers_result.php?groupid=5&productid=205&version=V2;001 << that's it,but ubuntu won'tdetect it
[12:24] <alaisd> why does ubuntu use gnome-screensaver, instead of xscreensaver? is there any way for me to configure gnome-screensaver at the ame level as i can configure xscrrensaver
[12:24] <alaisd> ?
[12:24] <alaisd> same level*
[12:25] <Jowi> McMadd, wow, i misunderstood you. yes. simply renaming /etc/rc2.d/K13gdm will work fine
[12:25] <crabfewd> anyone out there having weird video issues after upgrading to edgy
[12:25] <Peres_> if anyone have problems with beryl --> shift-backspace, this is the anwser http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL/Troubleshooting#Shift_backspace
[12:25] <mneptok> alaisd: GNOMEss is used because it's actually maintained in a reasonable way ;)
[12:25] <denardo> Slart: OK, hcitool scan sees it.
[12:26] <Slart> denardo: ah. then you have the address of the phone at least
[12:26] <riotkittie> mmm. reason.
[12:26] <alaisd> mneptok) but xscreensaver-demo is superior :)
[12:26] <imme> http://pastebin.com/862757
[12:26] <McMadd> Jowi: I trhink I figured it out now :)
[12:26] <imme> I've got problems with my HD.
[12:26] <imme> I'm on a LiveCD a.t.m.
[12:26] <riotkittie> the one thing i miss about windows is a screen saver. :\ heh
[12:26] <mneptok> alaisd: feel free to write a spec for Feisty+1 ;)
[12:26] <Jowi> McMadd, and that vnc help was for cbx33 !
[12:26] <crabfewd> after upgrading to edgy usplash seems to be broken, and anything in x set to transparent is also garbled
[12:26] <denardo> Slart: Yup. So I may just not be spotting the command or tool to communicate with the phone.
[12:27] <alaisd> mneptok) heh, will that get xcreensaver-demo into the prefs menu?
[12:27] <Slart> denardo: there are so many of these, hcitool, hidd, rfcomm etc.. I don't know which to run when.. and which of these depend on each other
[12:27] <mneptok> alaisd: i doubt it, but it will keep you quiet for a few months ;)
[12:27] <alaisd> haha
[12:28] <alaisd> now i have to google
[12:28] <riotkittie> feisty+1 = 7.10
[12:28] <DrO|A> Hmm, ive installed fglrx using the fglrxinstaller script, but when i reboot it dont load the fglrx module..
[12:28] <mneptok> crabfewd: suod dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:28] <mneptok> *sudo
[12:28] <Slart> denardo: oh.. and I had to install some kind of bluetooth pin application.. to be able to input the pin code from the phone
[12:28] <mcmuffinofdoom> no internet at my ubuntu box, the wireless adapter isn't being detected,can anyone help?
[12:28] <alaisd> ahh
[12:29] <alaisd> thanks riotkittie
[12:29] <riotkittie> mcmuffinofdoom: does it show up when you lspci ?
[12:29] <alaisd> hmm, riotkittie, where do i know your nick from? you had it a while?
[12:29] <michaelpo> can i use kshutdown in ubuntu?
[12:29] <denardo> Slart: Yup, I think one of the gazillion apps that I installed does this.
[12:29] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: that's a command i guess _^^_
[12:29] <crabfewd> mneptok: that will fix frame buffer issue too?
[12:29] <mneptok> michaelpo: why not just write a shell script?
[12:29] <riotkittie> alaisd: of that, i have no clue. yes. i have been using this since 98 for the most part
[12:30] <mneptok> crabfewd: it may well do so
[12:30] <alaisd> heh
[12:30] <riotkittie> mcmuffinofdoom: you guess right
[12:30] <crabfewd> i guess it would if it uses fbdev
[12:30] <alaisd> i used to be known as MonkeyINAbaG
[12:30] <eyalw> I massed up my X conf. file, is there a system restore tool?
[12:30] <crabfewd> ill give it a shot
[12:30] <alaisd> what sort of animal is feisty?
[12:30] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: it says a whole lot of nvidia PCIe things, some AMD HT thingies a firwire controller, an audio controller
[12:30] <mneptok> eyalw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:30] <Tmi> eyalw: always make backups before editing the xorg.conf :)
[12:30] <riotkittie> feisty... fawn
[12:30] <Zaggynl> I can't find mic boost, not in alsamixer or the gnome sound applet, anywhere else I can look
[12:31] <alaisd> :)
[12:31] <eyalw> mneptok: it didn't help me
[12:31] <eyalw> Tmi: i did, and mistakengly deleted it
[12:31] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: you think i should get feisty
[12:31] <mcmuffinofdoom> ?isn't it avery beta version >_>
[12:31] <riotkittie> mcmuffinofdoom: NO. feisty is alpha.
[12:31] <mcmuffinofdoom> ah
[12:31] <lisekat> msn won't connect on gaim, amsn or kopete for me, all settings are correct, does anyone know what might be the cause?
[12:31] <mcmuffinofdoom> i wasone letter off =p
[12:31] <eyalw> mneptok: and it defines default configuration which does not apply to my pc
[12:32] <alaisd> riotkittie) does feisty always stay alpha, like sid?
[12:32] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: any idea on my wireless adapter?
[12:32] <riotkittie> no, alaisd.
[12:32] <riotkittie> alpha > beta > release
[12:33] <alaisd> fair enough
[12:33] <riotkittie> mcmuffinofdoom: no. do you know what kind of wireless adapter you have?
[12:33] <alaisd> :)
[12:33] <michaelpo> mneptok: how do write a shell script?
[12:33] <mcmuffinofdoom> yes, letmesend you a link
[12:33] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: http://sitecom.com/drivers_result.php?groupid=5&productid=205&version=V2;001
[12:34] <mneptok> eyalw: it doesn't define a default anything. it asks you to choose configuration options.
[12:34] <riotkittie> mcmuffinofdoom: ahh. i cant view webpages at the moment
[12:34] <mcmuffinofdoom> (the space bar on this latop sucks monkey butt,so sorry forany intelligable posts)
[12:34] <mcmuffinofdoom> :o
[12:34] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: it's a sitecom  WL_016_v2
[12:35] <mcmuffinofdoom> though i doubt you can do very much without a browser?
[12:35] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: how come you can't view webpagesbut can be on irc?
[12:35] <alaisd> riotkittie) do you know if there is a lot of 'package clustering' like moving a bunch of different perl packages etc into a single packages or whatever during a new release in ubuntu, like there is in debian?
[12:35] <riotkittie> ah. sitecom i am completely unfamiliar with :|   have you tried searching the forums ?  seriously, the forums are usually a god send.
[12:35] <eyalw> mneptok: right, but i don't have the answers to those 30 Qs
[12:35] <mneptok> eyalw: then reinstall
[12:36] <mcmuffinofdoom> riotkittie: i tried some, i found quitesome posts having trouble with it,but no solutions, but i'll search again
[12:36] <eyalw> mneptok: what!!?? reinstall ubuntu just because the xorg dosent configured right?
[12:36] <Tmi> eyalw: doesnt the xorg.conf-configurer work for you?
[12:36] <mneptok> eyalw: well, if you can't answer basic questions about your hardware ....
[12:37] <eyalw> Tmi: i dont know how to answer all those Qs
[12:38] <mneptok> eyalw: you have a restore option. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. if you don't have the information to use it, that's hardly Ubuntu's fault. :)
[12:38] <alaisd> riotkittie) i am working on software porting for about 300 custom packages that we have built for woody systems, and we are trying to upgrade them to sarge... and it has been taking a long time, cause deps have moved, merged etc and all control files need to be edited... so a dist-upgrade on the host doesnt work, so there has been talk of moving to ubuntu..... do you know if we will have the same problems during a new release?
[12:38] <LinTux> I have just installed PhpMyAdmin, what is the default username and password to get into it?
[12:38] <eyalw> mneptok: how does ubuntu configured the xorg on installation? it does it automatically. so why cant i use that tool again
[12:38] <Zaggynl> Anyone has an Audigy LS here?
[12:38] <riotkittie> alaisd: i am not really sure but i imagine you'd have problems to some extent
[12:39] <DreamThief> LinTux, the default username is the default admin user of mysql ... "root" with empty password
[12:39] <mneptok> alaisd: you want Canonical's professional services. we can help you port and ensure you don't regress in ugly ways. :)
[12:39] <riotkittie> but you should ask someone more knowledgeable about such things
[12:39] <alaisd> riotkittie) heh but every 6 months instead of every whenever
[12:39] <DreamThief> don't forget to set yourself a pasword for the mysql root ...
[12:40] <steel_lady> should I put fat32 partition for /home to be logical or primary???
[12:40] <LinTux> DreamTheif: Cheers M8
[12:40] <alaisd> mneptok) canonical do some very good things, but i think we are a mostly 'in house' company :)
[12:40] <riotkittie> /fat32/ for home?
[12:40] <Zaggynl> !microphone
[12:40] <steel_lady> why not? I want to share it with windows. it is for my boss
[12:40] <DreamThief> steel_lady, you shouldnt use fat32 for /home at all ...
[12:40] <mneptok> alaisd: well, if you want guidance on .deb creation and maintenance ...
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <DreamThief> because fat32 doesn't support the unix rights system
[12:41] <Zaggynl> ubotu is kinda slow today <:
[12:41] <mneptok> steel_lady: do not use FAT32 for *any* Linux partition.
[12:41] <riotkittie> because fat 32 is insecure and slow
[12:41] <Zaggynl> !sound
[12:41] <steel_lady> and what should I use?
[12:41] <vik> how can I change the console resolution?
[12:41] <mneptok> ext3
[12:41] <Jowi> vik, you use the framebuffer setting
[12:41] <alaisd> mneptok) i will ask management to explore your services
[12:41] <steel_lady> then I can not read it from win!
[12:42] <vik> Jowi: what command/file/package?
[12:42] <Jowi> !framebuffer | vik (see at the bottom of the page)
[12:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:42] <mneptok> alaisd: feel free to find me here around this time most weekdays. i'll answer any questions.
[12:42] <michiel_> hello
[12:42] <jogis> need c kompliter package for ubuntu can help?
[12:42] <vik> hmmm.. ubotu not talking to me
[12:42] <ubotu> vik (see at the bottom of the page): If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[12:42] <alaisd> mneptok) thanks :)
[12:43] <vik> there we go
[12:43] <Jowi> ah, there he goes
[12:43] <mneptok> jogis: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:43] <Jowi> hehe
[12:43] <riotkittie> jogis: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:43] <jshd> i'm getting "unable to execute "/bin/sh": input/output error" when i start ubuntu... it's a hardware problem i'm sure, can anyone help me figure out which part?
[12:43] <steel_lady> so, what should I do?
[12:43] <michiel_> which daemon can I use to monitor system events for inserting and mounting the USB disk?
[12:43] <amee2k> hi everyone
[12:43] <michiel_> UDEV doesn't give me any events on USB disks
[12:43] <jogis> riotkittie internet dont work... now here on win xp :/ need c kompliter install file or something...
[12:44] <mneptok> jshd: it's a shell init problem. check your shell startup files.
[12:44] <jshd> earlier windows crashed with a kernel inpage error, so i ran memtest and saw the second stick of ram was messing up
[12:44] <amee2k> where do i put commands i want to have executed during system startup (e.g. custom iptables commands)?
[12:44] <jshd> so i removed it but now neither windows or ubuntu will start
[12:44] <vleon> i dont understand, am i using ubuntu or winxp
[12:45] <mneptok> michiel_: HAL
[12:45] <vleon> i mean hell the system logon screen desided that its fun to tka hours to load up ubuntu
[12:45] <Jowi> jshd, does grub show for you?
[12:46] <michiel_> mneptok: and HAL executes gnome-volume-manager to mount the USB disk (the default way)?
[12:46] <vleon> can someone tell me what could have went wrong?
[12:46] <mneptok> michiel_: IIRC, ja
[12:46] <jshd> jowi: yes, grub is the same as always
[12:47] <amee2k> any hints?
[12:47] <steel_lady> you didn't tell me is home primary or logical partition?
[12:48] <Jowi> jshd, ok, just making sure the system is at least bootable. you're sure you remove the faulty stick and not the good one? how much RAM do you have now (with the one and only mem stick)?
[12:48] <jshd> i have 512MB now
[12:48] <vik> anyone know where I can find vesa framebuffer codes for widescreen?
[12:49] <jshd> i ran memtest again after removing it... i let it run for a while so i guess it went through 3 times, there was one error during the 3 tests
[12:49] <roxlu> hi all!
[12:50] <Jowi> vik, maybe fbset can do that.
[12:50] <roxlu> hi all !
[12:50] <jshd> the livecd is working so far, no internet though
[12:50] <roxlu> someone where who installed "java 1.6 jdk" ?
[12:51] <tim1> jshd:you just have to configure it
[12:51] <nwonknu-> sup
[12:51] <tim1> yo
[12:51] <Jowi> vik, have you checked here to see if it isn't listed? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash#Kernel_mode_numbers
[12:52] <benschreiner> hi there,
[12:52] <tim1> :)
[12:52] <vik> Jowi: not there; what package does fbset live in?
[12:52] <Jowi> !info fbset
[12:52] <ubotu> fbset: framebuffer device maintenance program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-18 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 320 kB
[12:53] <vleon> hey guys i have an xp dejvu here :) ubuntut startedd loading up very very slow
[12:53] <eyalw> Im configuring the X, what is keyboard varient?
[12:54] <McMadd> I need to autostart a program (screen) on tty1 on boot, what's the best way to do this?
[12:54] <steel_lady> please help me, something happened with partitions :(
[12:54] <eyalw> what is the keyboard varient?
[12:54] <nwonknu-> ?
[12:55] <jshd> if it's an init problem, which files should i look at?
[12:55] <tim1> steel_lady: spill
[12:55] <vleon> hey guys i have an xp dejvu here :) ubuntut startedd loading up very very slow
[12:56] <riotkittie> what happened with partitions?
[12:57] <steel_lady> I went to resize partitions manually, I had ext3 of 19G and fat 32 of 2. my boss wants linux only on ext 3 so I resized between the two
[12:57] <steel_lady> when I applied changes it gave me an error after some time
[12:57] <riotkittie> screen <3
[12:57] <McMadd> I need to autostart a program (screen) on tty1 on boot, what's the best way to do this?
[12:57] <riotkittie> what was the error it gave you, steel_lady ?
[12:58] <steel_lady> that it can not be resizes
[12:58] <steel_lady> resized
[12:58] <steel_lady> when I extend the other partition should it change the format too?
[12:59] <McMadd> Could I ad a symbolic link in /etc/rc0.d? or another dir (kinda new to this... don't know exactly if runlevels are related to tty's)
[12:59] <Tmi> eyalw: it says which one is best to chose depending on location before you type it in
[12:59] <Tmi> I chose the one that it recommended me and it worked
[12:59] <steel_lady> so when I did the click on OK it pretended like partitions were done but when i go to the next step deciding whic partition goes for what, it pretends like partitions have the old length different than on previous screen
[12:59] <ubinsp> Who use AES-LOOP ?
[01:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> is ubuntuguide.org down for anyone here?
[01:00] <Tmi> seems so
[01:00] <vleon> hey guys i have an xp dejvu here :) ubuntut startedd loading up very very slow
[01:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx Tmi
[01:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> just wanted to know if it was on my end
[01:01] <Masterofmind> which version vleon?
[01:01] <vleon> edgy
[01:01] <vleon> i mean the screen that loads everything before the login
[01:01] <vleon> after that screen everything is fine
[01:01] <ubinsp> hello again. Who use AES-LOOP?
[01:02] <tim1> vleon: installed any thing lately
[01:02] <[BTF] Chm0d> i may be wrong (just trying to help) but vleon I think you can look at dmesg in /var/log to see what is booting up
[01:03] <vleon> ok sec
[01:03] <tim1> [BTF] Chm0d:good idea
[01:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty wasn't sure if it was dmesg that shows that or some other file
[01:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> ive only been using linux for like 6 months
[01:03] <vleon> and well everytime my internet doesnt work i use pppoeconf, and that is the only thing, plus the fact that i changed settings in my router
[01:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> you using dialup huh?
[01:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> ewww
[01:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> ;P
[01:04] <tim1> ;)
[01:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> what settings did you change
[01:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> in router
[01:05] <vleon> well ive made it work :)
[01:05] <steel_lady> this is very frustrating, I don't know what to do. I didn't think that installing the system will be such a problem
[01:05] <vleon> i mean i just configured it the way that the tech helpers told me too
[01:05] <benschreiner> I've just finished the week at LCA, rock!... i mean: !!ROCK!!...
[01:05] <benschreiner> anyway, I'm now trying to fix up the audio on my gf's lappy, as she's a muso. I can't get JACK to start, Audacity crashes, (not sure why, it probably needs JACK), and most other apps seem to rely on JACK as well.
[01:05] <benschreiner> When I boot JACK I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2131/  when I hit "start" inside JACK, I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2132/
[01:05] <benschreiner> running Ubuntu 6.10, on a Dell 640m with Intel HDA
[01:06] <rogue780> is there a way to make it so X doesn't start at all with the computer...so I just run with a command prompt until I run startx?
[01:06] <vleon> maybe flashing my router with dd-wrt can solve the problem?
[01:06] <tim1> steel_lady: dose it have to manually /
[01:07] <vleon> im just not sure if i should flash it cause im new to networking stuff
[01:07] <benschreiner> rouge780, pretty sure that involves changing an option in grub... it probably has init 5, what you want is init 3
[01:07] <steel_lady> ok, it is trying to reformat again. is there a way to check if partitions are ok?
[01:08] <[BTF] Chm0d> vleon im pretty good at networking
[01:08] <[BTF] Chm0d> you dont listen to techs sometimes they can steer you wrong its just you never know when those times are
[01:09] <pexi> someone have problems with the latest version of beryl ???
[01:09] <jshd> oh, wow... all of /bin/sh is just gone
[01:09] <steel_lady> now it gave me: Installer crushed!!!
[01:09] <rogue780> benschreiner: do you know where I could go tp find out more?
[01:10] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d yeah i know after all they use prepared answers, plus linksys doesnt provide help for linux so they can just help me by telling me what should have been done in winows (good thing i know xp very well)
[01:10] <deny[all] > hi, I got edgy installed on a laptop with Intel 915 chipset and I got problems with the usplash, it does't work
[01:10] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d anyway what do you think, i have a linksys WRT54G ver 5 router would it be smart to flash it with dd-wrt?
[01:10] <Jowi> deny[all] , is it a mac?
[01:11] <alyssa_> Hello room! I m a first timer on IRC!
[01:11] <apokryphos> alyssa_: welcome
[01:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> i myself can't stand wireless :P security reasons.  What is the router doing or not doing again i missed what the problem was with the router
[01:11] <lisekat> does anyone know why msn won't connect for me on gaim, amsn and kopete?
[01:11] <deny[all] > <Jowi> deny[all] , is it a mac? << no it's a Vaio
[01:11] <alyssa_> Hey Apo! How are you going?
[01:12] <Jowi> deny[all] , is the framebuffer enabled in the BIOS?
[01:12] <tim1>  steel_lady:crashed after what ?
[01:12] <benschreiner> rouge780: I'm looking through at the moment... OpenSUSE, (never mind all it's issues), had a nice way to do this in YaST... (never mind all it's issues) :-p,
[01:12] <steel_lady> ok, I restarted it again, please tell me if separate home partition should be logical or primary???
[01:12] <deny[all] > Jowi: don't know, but i check, what I need, enable or disable?
[01:12] <steel_lady> crushed after trying to resize partitions
[01:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have only flashed linksys router once
[01:13] <Jowi> deny[all] , enable it. what do you mean by "usplash doesn't work"?
[01:13] <aalhamad> how do i configure hotmail on evolution mail?
[01:13] <at22881> separate home partition can be logical or primary - doesnt matter
[01:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> i use netgear fvs318 now
[01:13] <Peres_> !info gnome-commander
[01:13] <ubotu> gnome-commander: nice and fast file manager for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 860 kB, installed size 9064 kB
[01:13] <rogue780> benschreiner: thanks
[01:14] <Peres_> !info krusader
[01:14] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[01:14] <steel_lady> tim1: what should I put for separate home partition primary or logical?
[01:14] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d well i have a long coridor beetwen my two comps connecting the directly would have been a nightmare
[01:14] <tim1> logical???>
[01:14] <zorglu_> q. any eclipse user on edgy around ? i run eclipse on ubuntu dapper and got a large memory leak when using eclipse, like 80mbyte every hour. i would like to know if people using edgy experience it too ?
[01:14] <aalhamad> hi any boy know how to configure hotmail on evolution mail?
[01:14] <Peres_> !info mc
[01:14] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[01:14] <vleon> i actually also would prefare direct connect if it wasnt for the distance
[01:15] <tim1> i really dont know
[01:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> vleon  ahhh I prewired my house during contruction :P
[01:15] <steel_lady> tim1 I thought primary partitions are only for operative systems
[01:15] <deny[all] > Jowi: the new usplash show it an ubuntu screen with a progressive bar when the kernel it's loading, i don't get that on my
[01:15] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d well as i said ubuntu gets lots of time to load up
[01:15] <Jowi> deny[all] , so what do you get? text-only boot?
[01:15] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d our house is rented...
[01:15] <tim1>  steel_lady:thats what your installing right
[01:15] <at22881> steel-lady: take logical. you only need primary partitions for bootable partitions - but as i said - it doesnt matter
[01:16] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d do you think that reconfiguring my router can solve the problem maybe falshing and configuring
[01:16] <tim1> right ?
[01:16] <deny[all] > Jowi: yes,
[01:16] <steel_lady> I am puting ubuntu on another partition and this will be home partition
[01:16] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d is it possible that by using dd-wrt ill have a better support for my linuxes?
[01:16] <[BTF] Chm0d> do you want to put the defaults back to the router?
[01:16] <tim1> steel_lady:yeh continue
[01:17] <Jowi> deny[all] , if you have a look in /etc/grub/menu.lst does the kernel line contain the word "splash" ?
[01:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> vleon we can default your router to be like it was when you bought it
[01:17] <steel_lady> so I need 1 partition for ubuntu 1 partition for win and 1 to be shared
[01:17] <deny[all] > Jowi: yes, splash un quiet
[01:17] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d defaults yes but then ill have to reconfigure it
[01:18] <Jowi> deny[all] , do you also see "vga=normal" in there?
[01:18] <deny[all] > nop
[01:18] <vleon> wait are you suggesting to reset it ti default and check if ubuntu loads up well?
[01:18] <[BTF] Chm0d> not understand what you need to reconfigure
[01:18] <deny[all] > Jowi: nop i don't have that
[01:18] <[BTF] Chm0d> only thing you need to do on wireless is change the sysid name
[01:18] <vleon> im using ppoe modem to connect
[01:18] <[BTF] Chm0d> really
[01:18] <vleon> to the net
[01:19] <vleon> so i need to configure the router to work with pppoe
[01:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> oh crap
[01:19] <steel_lady> tim1 did you see my message?
[01:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> i keep forgetting dialup LOL
[01:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats so caveman ago :P
[01:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmmm
[01:19] <Jowi> deny[all] , ok. enable framebuffer in BIOS and see if that helps. if not, see this wiki (at the bottom of the page) on how to enable a specific resolution for the framebuffer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[01:19] <benschreiner> rouge780: the configuration seems to be in init, not in GRUB... here's a link so far: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialInitProcess.html but it's for redhat. You need to change the default runlevel from 5 to 3.
[01:19] <deny[all] > Jowi: my screen it's wide i'm not sure if that have something to do with this
[01:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> man ive never setup linksys or any router to use ppp
[01:19] <tim1> steel_lady:why dont you use the slider to choose how much space ubuntu should use ,after that it dose the rest for you
[01:20] <benschreiner> Does anyone know what the equivalent in ubuntu for /etc/inittab is?
[01:20] <steel_lady> I did tim1
[01:20] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d i  dont have any choise
[01:20] <deny[all] > Jowi: did u mean vga=971, or something like that?
[01:20] <tim1> well that its it
[01:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> which router do you have i want to go on linksys site to take a look at manual
[01:20] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d i need wireless network
[01:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> yea i understand
[01:20] <tim1> you dont need to know all this stuff
[01:20] <vleon> and in israel we use ppoe
[01:20] <Jowi> deny[all] , the framebuffer is what make usplash work. if you're using dapper or edgy it should work after installaiton. yes, vga=791 for 1024x768
[01:21] <vleon> or wait maybe i could change
[01:21] <steel_lady> tim1 I want to ask which caracteristics should I put to shared partition?
[01:21] <Jowi> !usplash
[01:21] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:21] <Jowi> hmmm, that was not what i was looking for
[01:21] <misnix> benschreiner, /etc/inittab exists
[01:21] <tim1> steel_lady: what are the options ?
[01:21] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d my modem that connectes me to the net is a modem/router
[01:21] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d you think i can turn it to a router and solve my problems?
[01:21] <deny[all] > Jowi: ok thanks i will try that
[01:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> the modem in the computer?
[01:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> is a router
[01:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> ?
[01:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> im confused LOL
[01:22] <someothernick> dsl?
[01:22] <steel_lady> I don't know so that's I am asking tim1. my boss gave me laptop with win, red hat and shared fat32 partition. so I just resized it and left the settings. so now I am asking can fat32 be used like home for ubuntu and does it have to be also primary partition or not?
[01:23] <[BTF] Chm0d> someothernick: no he uses ppp
[01:23] <Peres_> !bsc
[01:23] <ubotu> bsc: graphical file manager with two panels. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.23-1 (edgy), package size 267 kB, installed size 864 kB
[01:23] <benschreiner> misnix: not on my 6.10
[01:23] <someothernick> oh
[01:23] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d i have an adsl modem/router that connects to my linksys router that connects to my comp
[01:23] <[BTF] Chm0d> ahh so you aren't using dialup
[01:23] <vleon> i am
[01:23] <vleon> ppoeconf...
[01:23] <[BTF] Chm0d> adsl isn't dialup
[01:23] <misnix> benschreiner, ok, I'm still on dapper
[01:23] <[BTF] Chm0d> LOL
[01:24] <vleon> oh you menat the old 56kp dialup modems? hell no!
[01:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> shew
[01:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> damn
[01:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> no we on same page
[01:24] <tim1> steel_lady:  fat32 can be used ,yes
[01:24] <vleon> :)
[01:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok i have same setup here
[01:24] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d great
[01:25] <benschreiner> misnix: ah! I see now... It's no longer there because of upstart
[01:25] <tim1> steel_lady: tim dont know about shearing partitions ,
[01:25] <vleon> i think ill reset my router and see what i should do next
[01:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> what you need to do is on the adsl modem can you login to it?
[01:25] <misnix> benschreiner, yep, seems it's in /etc/event.d
[01:25] <benschreiner> damn, I should have gone to that talk at LCA... it'll probably be online in the next few days
[01:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> you need to turn off dhcp from the adsl modem
[01:25] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d i am logged in to it
[01:25] <steel_lady> so, tim1, I leave it primary? I remember that red hat had some permission issue when we were working in linux using fat32 for storing, I don't know if it happens with ubuntu
[01:25] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d thats how i use the net you know
[01:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> yes
[01:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> i know
[01:26] <tim1> !bot-snack
[01:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> your other router will provide dhcp
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot-snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d wait a sec
[01:26] <vleon> its about time ill register
[01:26] <vleon> so we can pm
[01:26] <steel_lady> does anybody else know about this permission issue on fat32?
[01:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> k :)
[01:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> brb
[01:27] <someothernick> don't forget to set bridged mode
[01:27] <deny[all] > Jowi: my bios doesn't have the framebuffer option, but on dapper the usplash works fine
[01:27] <tim1> ! you dont know what snacks are ?
[01:27] <eXistenZ> !samba
[01:27] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:27] <tim1> !die
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about die - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <vleon>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[01:28] <tim1> !dieing
[01:28] <apokryphos> !botabuse | tim1
[01:28] <Jowi> deny[all] , ok, can't help with that. don't know if there are any edgy specific parameters or bugs for this.
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dieing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <ubotu> tim1: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:29] <tim1> !sorry
[01:29] <apokryphos> tim1: stop
[01:29] <jshd> should be able to get it working, thanks jowi/mneptok
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> vleon im back
[01:29] <deny[all] > Jowi: thanks a lot I keep searching
[01:30] <jshd> oh hm\
[01:30] <vleon> oy
[01:30] <vleon> [BTF] Chm0d pm
[01:30] <jshd> if i don't start the livecd in safe graphics mode, it doesn't start\
[01:31] <jshd> oh, never mind
[01:31] <Trist_an> anyone can explain me how to properly use conky to check my e-mail. I don't understand quite well the script...
[01:32] <oFF-beAt> !bot
[01:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:32] <apokryphos> ergh, bad log scrollback
[01:35] <Enverex> What do I need installed to get sensor temperature readings?
[01:36] <Li`lEndian> is it possible to mount a bin/cue file?
[01:36] <Li`lEndian> on loopback dev?
[01:36] <Enverex> Li`lEndian, You need CDEmu
[01:36] <iuui> noobie here - are non-admins able to kcik someone off IRC?
[01:37] <apokryphos> iuui: no
[01:37] <hakanu> arkadalar merhabalar
[01:37] <apokryphos> !english
[01:37] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:37] <iuui> i copied/pasted a bunch of qoute, didn't realize it wasn't allowed
[01:37] <hakanu> ben ubuntuda yeniyim
[01:38] <hakanu> yardm  ltfen
[01:38] <apokryphos> hakanu: English only in here.
[01:38] <Hobbsee> hakanu: english only please
[01:38] <hakanu> ingilizce bilmiyorum
[01:39] <iuui> let's say i got ubuntu ppc, can i load any linux software or only apps that havfe been ported?
[01:41] <foglight> ingilizce bilmiyorum seems to mean "i dont know english"
[01:41] <apokryphos> perhaps, yes.
[01:42] <foglight> according to google
[01:42] <Aarohi> can kubuntu packages be installed over ubuntu through the kubuntu CD?
[01:42] <steel_lady> ok, so I decided to resize and make win very small and I want to expand ext3 partition but it doesn't let me?!
[01:43] <apokryphos> Aarohi: sure
[01:43] <apokryphos> you have ot add it as a cd-rom source
[01:43] <Aarohi> done that apokryphos, i'm stuck on the next step
[01:44] <Aarohi> apokryphos, how do i know which packages belong to the cd repository?
[01:44] <apokryphos> you don't, easily
[01:45] <Aarohi> apokryphos, how do i select the packages to be installed?
[01:45] <apokryphos> synaptic
[01:45] <Aarohi> apokryphos, what in synaptic?
[01:46] <apokryphos> ubotu: synaptic
[01:46] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:46] <apokryphos> it's where you install your packages from
[01:47] <Aarohi> apokryphos, i'm in synaptic.. i've added the cd as repository. now how do i make the selection?
[01:47] <Aarohi> do i remove the other repositories or not?
[01:47] <Aarohi> if yes, how do i select 'packages to be installed from cd'? and so on..
[01:47] <apokryphos> Aarohi: make the selection fo what?
[01:47] <apokryphos> you don't. Select any packages you want
[01:47] <Aarohi> to all the packages on the kubuntu cd that aren't installed
[01:47] <apokryphos> if you want to install all Kubuntu packages, then install kubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <Aarohi> there isn't a kubuntu-desktop being shown
[01:48] <apokryphos> then it wasn't added as a CD source properly
[01:48] <apokryphos> Aarohi: or you didn't refresh your sources
[01:48] <Aarohi> through the reload button apokryphos ?
[01:49] <apokryphos> yeah
[01:49] <nolimitsoya> how do i make tar split an archive into 700mb parts for storing on cdr media?
[01:49] <Aarohi> apokryphos, how do i add it as a source? perhaps thats where i'm making the mistake
[01:50] <apokryphos> Aarohi: with apt-cdrom
[01:52] <Aarohi> apokryphos, i got this error upon adding with apt-cdrom
[01:52] <Aarohi> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%206.06%20%5fDapper%20Drake%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20060531)_dists_dapper_Release - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:52] <Aarohi> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%206.06%20%5fDapper%20Drake%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20060531)_dists_dapper_Release.gpg - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:52] <apokryphos> as root?
[01:52] <Aarohi> no
[01:52] <Aarohi> should i sudo it?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> Aarohi: yes
[01:53] <Aarohi> i did. still nothing on synaptic.
[01:54] <samalex> hey guys.  how do I get a kernel for Ubuntu which supports SMP?  Is there one to download, or do I need to recompile a new one?
[01:55] <nolimitsoya> samalex, they all do
[01:55] <paolo_>  Hi. is it possible, in linux, to manage how much virtual memory must reserved to a process?
[01:55] <nolimitsoya> samalex, use the -generic kernel and youll get all the goodies
[01:55] <paolo_>  Hi. is it possible, in linux, to manage how much virtual memory must BE reserved to a process?
[01:57] <samalex> I guess this is a dumb question then, but how can I verify it's running with SMP enabled, just so I know it's using both processors?
[01:57] <Aarohi> thanks guys
[01:57] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know how i can disable the display of gnome-vfs connections on my desktop?
[01:57] <samalex> actually n/m, I went to System MOnitor, and it does show both processors, so I guess that's a clue that it's working :)
[01:57] <MindFreek> anyone know how I can stop the applications menu from scrolling in GNOME
[01:57] <Hobbsee> samalex: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:57] <bulmer> paolo_: am not absolutely sure, but if you run your  user program in a ramdisk, you can set the amount of ramdisk..does that count as virtual memory?
[01:58] <samalex> hobbsee, thanks... they're both there.
[01:58] <Luis07> how can I rename all the files in a directory, making all .ico become .png?
[01:58] <Hobbsee> samalex: yay :)
[01:59] <Hobbsee> Luis07: try renameutils
[01:59] <Luis07> Hobbsee, I've tried 'mv *.ico *.png' but it doesn't work...
[02:01] <Hobbsee> Luis07: no, it wouldnt.  you'd need a bash script, or to use a tool for renaming
[02:01] <Enverex> ... what the hell?
[02:02] <Alan-D>  I trying to install Winbind, but I keep getting a depends message concerning samba-common
[02:02] <Alan-D> Is this caused by the source.list entries not pointing to the right source?
[02:02] <Mba7eth> hi all i have install other languages on my box but the Q is how can i switch from language to another as the case in window just SHFT+ALT
[02:02] <Mba7eth> ???
[02:04] <Mba7eth> anyone any idea
[02:04] <Mba7eth> ?
[02:09] <jo_> Hi
[02:10] <jo_> ?
[02:11] <Luis07> I'm trying to make a shell script work.. it'll rename all 'ico' files to 'png'. this piece is not working: for i in *.ico;do mv $i $.png;done (by licio on #ubuntu-br)
[02:11] <Lynoure> jo_: hi, do you have a question to ask?
[02:13] <rogue780> I made a script for my cron.daily folder to backup a mysql db every day. this is the script: "DAY=$(/bin/date +%m%d%Y) DUMPFILE="mythdb_$DAY.sql" mysqldump -u mythtv -pwfnsijmc mythconverg -c > /shares/files/backup/mythbox/sql/mythconverg/$DUMPFILE exit 0" I want to add to it a way to delete any backup that is older than 7 days. can anyone help me with that?
[02:14] <apokryphos> Luis07: it won't work because all your files' actual name includes the extension
[02:14] <masura> Anyone have a clue about this? I booted my computer and now I'm trying to listen music with xmms. Then I get this post: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[02:14] <MrNiceGuy> hello everybody, i am a newbie to Ubuntu... would anybody please advice how to install a .debian package ?
[02:14] <apokryphos> Luis07: use bash's 'basename', or use krename, which is friendlier
[02:14] <masura> MrNiceGuy, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[02:15] <klm-> how do I close firefox's process? I can't open a browser because there is already a process running
[02:15] <MrNiceGuy> masura: thanks a lot :)
[02:15] <masura> :)
[02:15] <masura> no problem
[02:15] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with getting microphone to work in Teamspeak?
[02:15] <michaelpo> #kshutdown
[02:15] <michaelpo> !kshutdown
[02:15] <ubotu> kshutdown: an advanced shut down utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9~beta-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 261 kB, installed size 1000 kB
[02:15] <masura> but I'm having issues with my audio equipment
[02:15] <apokryphos> klm-: killall -9 firefox{,-bin}
[02:15] <Mba7eth> /quit
[02:15] <Mba7eth> x
[02:16] <klm-> apokryphos: thanks!
[02:18] <bulmer> rogue780 it seems you are missing a ";' separator for each command line, you cant overlap multiple commands
[02:19] <rogue780> bulmer, I just put it together like that for the sake of the chatroom... each command has its own line in the script
[02:19] <rogue780> and I found the answer I needed
[02:19] <bulmer> cool
[02:19] <michaelpo> i just installed ubuntu6.06, when i want to shutdown, i click the quit button... then need to wait a while while it log me off... then i need to click the shutdown selection.... i just installed kshutdown.... how do I get it to work in ubuntu?
[02:20] <bulmer> michaelpo: is there an icon for it?
[02:20] <michaelpo> yes
[02:20] <michaelpo> kshutdown icon
[02:21] <bulmer> click on it, does it do what you expect?
[02:22] <habeeb> http://pastebin.ca/321480
[02:22] <habeeb> Can you please check it out?
[02:23] <cappiz> someone got a guid howto install edgy to an USB pen?
[02:24] <storeyzy_bio> 1) use 7zip to unzip iso to USB pen
[02:25] <storeyzy_bio> 0) format the USB pen as FAT32
[02:25] <storeyzy_bio> -1) make sure the pen can hold 700MB data
[02:25] <storeyzy_bio> 2) copy everything from isolinux to root
[02:26] <someothernick> cappiz,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308027&highlight=usb
[02:27] <Alan-D> Could somebody point to me in what "deb" source I could find winbind, I keep getting a "couldn't find package winbind" message.
[02:27] <cappiz> ah, thanks... but its not that one...
[02:28] <cappiz> i saw a guide specific for an USB pen
[02:28] <someothernick> oh :/
[02:28] <IntuitiveNipple> USB pen is the same thing isn't it? Presents as a USB Flash media card?
[02:28] <kuma> hi :) what's the command to move a folder to another location?
[02:28] <habeeb> kuma: mv
[02:28] <kuma> habeeb: thanks
[02:28] <IntuitiveNipple> As long as the host PC BIOS can allow it to be bootable, it'll work
[02:29] <habeeb> http://pastebin.ca/321480 Is that normal?
[02:29] <cappiz> IntuitiveNipple, not sure... does a USB pen have MBR and stuff?
[02:29] <nadia> hi
[02:29] <storeyzy_bio> i have ubuntu on my 1GB usb pen, fedora core 6 on my hdd
[02:29] <august> hi
[02:29] <cappiz> ok
[02:29] <cappiz> ill try it :)
[02:29] <cappiz> bbl
[02:30] <cappiz> :D
[02:30] <august> I'm begining to learn Linux
[02:30] <august> what should I do
[02:30] <storeyzy_bio> get the 386 version because it support flash, dont' get the 64bit version
[02:30] <mnoir> august: that question is very big
[02:31] <IdleOne> august: everything! :)
[02:31] <august> ubunto or FC6
[02:31] <lou3> youpppp
[02:31] <august> i'm using FC6
[02:32] <lou3> ohhhh
[02:32] <lou3> cava le poepleee
[02:32] <kuma> i'm trying to move a folder from my /home/ directory to another one in a FAT32 partition, when I try to do it it says: permition denied (in spanish xD), how can i fix it? with a chmod to the folder?
[02:33] <storeyzy_bio> kuma: 1) chmod 2) move folder as root
[02:33] <kuma> ok, thanks
[02:33] <IdleOne> august: well if your using Fedora you might want to join one of theyre support channels
[02:34] <IdleOne> august: you are welcome to stay here though and I would suggest giving Ubuntu a shot :)
[02:35] <edburns> Greetings Programs.
[02:35] <kuma> well, i tried adding sudo before the mv command, but now is saying "failing to keep propietary from (/home/ file location)"
[02:35] <edburns> The GNU/Linux distro I used to use leveraged postfix by default as its mail system.
[02:36] <edburns> What does Ubuntu use?
[02:36] <gdb> postfix
[02:36] <edburns> I have noticed that /etc/postfix doesn't exist
[02:36] <edburns> Is that because it is not installed by default?
[02:36] <gdb> because an MTA is a daemon and that means an open network port
[02:36] <gdb> so no, it's not installed by default
[02:36] <edburns> Ok,
[02:36] <edburns> So I assume I can install it using the usual methods?
[02:36] <gdb> install mail-server or any MUA and it will grab postfix
[02:36] <gdb> yes
[02:36] <gdb> you can use sendmail or exim4 as well
[02:37] <Luis07> ubuntu is not creating thumbnails for ICO files.. how can I change that?
[02:37] <incorrect> i was wondering,  how can i give two groups different permissions to the same directory?
[02:37] <edburns> gdb: I can install it using synaptic package manager?
[02:38] <gdb> Yes, if you like.  Or Add/Remove Applications, or apt-get, or aptitude, or any number of other methods. ;-)
[02:38] <mnoir> incorrect: a dir can only have one group id - how would you propose doing that?
[02:38] <gdb> An MTA is sort of like underwear
[02:38] <gdb> you buy a brand you like
[02:38] <gdb> and you otherwise never think about it
[02:38] <gdb> it's just there, it works, and it never crosses your mind again
[02:38] <incorrect> mnoir, i don't know, surely someone would have wanted to do this before?
[02:39] <gdb> I personally find Synaptic to be complete overkill for simple package management.
[02:39] <bulmer> incorrect: there is whats called fcl  an access control list.. ihave not used it myself yet
[02:39] <Murchadh> kuma, sudo umount /mount/point_of_vfat_device; sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/?d? /mount/point_of_vfat_device and then try your copy/move action.
[02:39] <mnoir> incorrect: maybe someone wanted it but I do not recall ever hearing it...
[02:39] <rulus> hi, I have a question here: which package has to do with microphone support? Is that alsa-driver, alsa-lib, alsa-utils, someting else?
[02:40] <gdb> The only thing I've found it useful for is removing all packages provided by a specific repository.
[02:40] <mnoir> gdb: fortunately package management is not simple :)
[02:40] <bulmer> incorrect: try the command  getfcl
[02:40] <gdb> It's not?
[02:40] <edburns> very nice!
[02:40] <edburns> I was thinking I'd have to edit mail.cf
[02:40] <gdb> Hrm, odd that.  I must have never come across the "complex" parts of installing and removing software.
[02:41] <gdb> edburns: yes, and you can get back to that at any time with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix"
[02:41] <bulmer> mnoir: i dont know if getfcl and setfcl is available in ubuntu, its available on suse
[02:41] <kuma> Murchadh: no, it's copying alright, just showing that error message of "failing to keep propietary from (/home/ file location)"
[02:41] <eyalw> hi
[02:41] <gdb> edburns: What I'd suggest you do, after installing all your "must have" packages is save a selections list with "dpkg --get-selections > working-selections.list" or something
[02:42] <mnoir> bulmer: is that an acl scheme?
[02:42] <bulmer> mnoir yes
[02:42] <michaelpo>  i just installed ubuntu6.06, when i want to shutdown, i click the quit button... then need to wait a while while it log me off... then i need to click the shutdown selection.... how do I get ubuntu to do a one click shutdown?
[02:42] <mnoir> bulmer: cool!
[02:42] <edburns> gdb: that sounds great.
[02:42] <gdb> edburns: that way, if you ever reinstall the machine, you can easily get back to the same state with "dpkg --set-selections < working-selections.list && apt-get dist-ugprade"
[02:42] <eyalw> I configured my Xorg with the X -configure option and now beryl dosent work, can someone redirect me to an appropriate channel?
[02:42] <mnoir> incorrect: bulmer's proposal is worth looking into if you really need robust file access patterns
[02:42] <Pici> !xgl | eyalw
[02:43] <ubotu> eyalw: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:43] <Pici> eyalw : #beryl may exist too, but I'm not sure
[02:43] <rulus> !microphone
[02:43] <Murchadh> kuma, Yeah, the above changes permissions to allow full read/write access to all users, which would mean you wouldn't need sudo for copy/move! Also, might get rid of that error as a bonus.
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <mnoir> bulmer: do you know the generic package name?
[02:44] <rulus> !alsa
[02:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:44] <bulmer> mnoir: not in ubuntu, in suse, i add it via yast
[02:44] <bulmer> mnoir: i dont know which package it belongs to in ubuntu
[02:45] <michaelpo>  i just installed ubuntu6.06, when i want to shutdown, i click the quit button... then need to wait a while while it log me off... then i need to click the shutdown selection.... how do I get ubuntu to do a one click shutdown? are you shutting down your pc the same way? is there a better way?
[02:45] <iuui> hi, does anyone know how to change the permissions of the floppy drive so that i can save to it?
[02:45] <mnoir> bulmer: yes i know - i see bsd citations but i have noyet found the package - only cites on the utilities
[02:45] <iuui> michealpo: shutdown -h now
[02:45] <michaelpo> i just installed ubuntu6.06, when i want to shutdown, i click the quit button... then need to wait a while while it log me off... then i need to click the shutdown selection.... how do I get ubuntu to do a one click shutdown? are you shutting down your pc the same way? is there a better way? i dont like the click.. wait.. click.. part
[02:45] <kuma> Murchadh: , ok, i'll do that. I'm trying to use that partition as Data storage for Win and Linux, do you have any tips for this?
[02:46] <michaelpo> iuui: can i do an icon for that? so i just click it?
[02:46] <bulmer> iuui: is the "lock" enabled on your floppy disk?
[02:46] <Pici> !repeat | michaelpo
[02:46] <ubotu> michaelpo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:46] <server3> Hi all
[02:47] <rage_> !patience
[02:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:47] <kuma> Murchadh: sudo umount /mount/point_of_vfat_device? Isn't that the /dev/ directory (i'm using Kubuntu)
[02:47] <server3> I can't find MySQL 5.0.22 "include" directory
[02:47] <eyalw> I configured my Xorg with the X -configure option and now beryl dosent work, it used to work. now it just appears in the tray icon, but the Emerald theme manager isnt working and neither the animation effects
[02:47] <iuui> michaelpo: uh...kindof. you need to go into the terminal. i don't know why it takes so long for your box to shutdown
[02:47] <Murchadh> kuma, I have a similar situation where I've added umask=000 to the options section for all vfat drives in the /etc/fstab file. Edit /etc/fstab as root and add that.
[02:47] <iuui> but that's the shutdown command - h = halt. now means to shutdown immediatly.
[02:47] <Pici> michaelpo : you can run shutdown -h now.  You could make a panel button that runs that, but I dont know if you can change the logoff window's configuration
[02:48] <kuma> Murchadh: ok, one at the time xD, first i'll umount and mount the fat partition
[02:48] <Murchadh> kuma, Likely to be /media/?d? similar to whatever device it is /dev/?d?
[02:48] <iuui> bulmer: no, the lock isn't enabled. i can write to it with root, but not with the regular user
[02:48] <server3> I can't find MySQL 5.0.22 "include" directory enywhere. I installed all I found about MySQL 5.xx into Synaptic, but I can't find "include" dir.
[02:48] <kuma> Murchadh: ok, i'll use the /media/ dir then
[02:49] <server3> Help me enyone. I can't find MySQL 5.0.22 "include" directory enywhere. I installed all I found about MySQL 5.xx into Synaptic, but I can't find "include" dir.
[02:49] <mnoir> incorrect: to begin studying what you need to do to give fine-grained access to files, here is a link:  http://wiki.kaspersandberg.com/doku.php?id=howtos:acl
[02:49] <rootpt> freecontrib is offline ?
[02:49] <Murchadh> kuma, You can mount and umount drives in the /etc/fstab file by giving either the devices name (/dev/?d?) or the mount point (/media/?d?).
[02:49] <jrib> server3: you mean header files for mysql?
[02:50] <server3> jrib: yes
[02:50] <iuui> murchadh: how do you mount the flop so that all users have write permission?
[02:50] <mnoir> incorrect: you will probably need to do significant technical work
[02:50] <kuma> Murchadh: hmmm, please give me detailed instructions, i tried to umount the fat partition but it says "busy dispositive"
[02:50] <server3> I'm trying to make exim 4.5 support for mysql
[02:50] <jrib> server3: do you have the stuff in:  acs -n lib mysql dev
[02:50] <Pici> server3 : look for a -dev package that matches your mysql verion
[02:50] <Pici> *version
[02:51] <server3> jrib, Pici: Thanx, I'll poke
[02:51] <jrib> server3: sorry, acs is an alias I have for apt-cache search :)
[02:51] <iuui> does anyone know how to mount the floppy drive so taht all users have write permission?
[02:52] <eyalw> hi, i have this update showing in the update manager that just shows an error every time i try installing it. and it remains there all the time
[02:52] <iuui> what
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> iuui, uid 777?
[02:52] <server3> jrib: `whereis acs` I had answer: "acs:"
[02:52] <Mez> hey mako
[02:52] <Pici> server3 : <jrib> server3: sorry, acs is an alias I have for apt-cache search :)
[02:52] <michaelpo> sorry... i wasnt impatient... i was just rephrasing better....
[02:52] <eyalw> its called wpasupplicant
[02:52] <server3> jrib: yes, I understand
[02:53] <iuui> nolimit: what's that? i tried chmor...do you mean to switch to root? i can write with root, but i'm trying to do it with all users
[02:53] <iuui> chmor>meant: chmod
[02:53] <eyalw> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/wpasupplicant_0.5.7+3v1ubuntu4_i386.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[02:53] <nolimitsoya> iuui, no, in fstab. try 'man fstab'
[02:53] <iuui> o.k....be back in a sec...
[02:53] <server3> Pici: "Invalid operation lib"
[02:54] <Murchadh> iuui, Can you edit /etc/fstab? If so edit the entry for your floppy and add rw to the options.
[02:54] <server3> Pici: `apt-cache -n lib mysql dev` I had answer "Invalid operation lib"
[02:54] <bulmer> iuui: on the 4th column of /etc/fstab try a owner or when mounting the floppy  with -o rw
[02:55] <jrib> server3: apt-cache search -n lib mysql dev
[02:55] <Murchadh> kuma, I think something is accessing the drive so it may be difficult to umount. You could add the umask=000 to the /etc/fstab and it will be active on next reboot!
[02:56] <kuma> Murchadh: ok, i'll do that
[02:56] <cypher1> how do i view microsoft project document (*.mpp) ?
[02:57] <iuui> i think the problems is that i create a dir as mount point instead of using the default one in fstab
[02:57] <iuui> ?
[02:58] <seshomaru> hi , how can i download an ubuntu package from the repositories using a browser not with apt-get
[02:58] <seshomaru> ?
[02:58] <kuma> Murchadh: current umask=0007 changing it to 000
[02:58] <lamego> cypher1, you will need to do some research on the project apps for linux, i am not sure you can open ms project files at the moment with any of them
[02:58] <lamego> seshomaru, you will need to access to the http or ftp url of the packages
[02:58] <cypher1> lamego: ah.. thanks !
[02:58] <server3> jrib: I have a list of something, for example "libmysqlclient15-dev - mysql database development files", but I can't find the path to it.
[02:58] <michaelpo> i have installed vlc player.... how do i make it the default player...?
[02:58] <cypher1> seshomaru: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:58] <jrib> server3: is libmysqlclient15-dev installed?
[02:58] <seshomaru> lamego, how do i find that?
[02:59] <lamego> seshomaru, read the tip from cypher1 , if it is from an uffocial repository
[02:59] <lamego> official
[02:59] <eyalw> beryl-xgl outputs "segmentation fault"
[02:59] <seshomaru> lamego, thanks
[02:59] <server3> jrib: no, it isn't. Now installing
[03:00] <seshomaru> cypher1, thanks
[03:00] <kuma> Murchadh: hope it works, thanks for your help :)
[03:00] <cypher1> seshomaru: you are welcome :)
[03:00] <Murchadh> kuma, Yeah! And if you can't find what's using that partition you could reboot, and see if it all works a little easier! You may want to check out the security implications of this. yvw
[03:00] <mcmuffinofdoom> Hello,i'm trying to install the right drivers for mywireless network card,and i have the driver thingies now, BUT they're not precompiled, and i don'thave any building experience =(. make wont work and there are some scripts which give an error on their firstline of code =(
[03:00] <mcmuffinofdoom> can anyone help?
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> !build | mcmuffinofdoom
[03:01] <ubotu> mcmuffinofdoom: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:01] <mcmuffinofdoom> nolimitsoya: ty,will read ^_^ (i should have figured that out myself>_<)
[03:01] <kuma> Murchadh: Well, since it's a home computer i wouldn't worry about security, at least you mean security in a network enviroment
[03:01] <iuui> how do you check where mount points are?
[03:02] <Daverocks> iuui: mount
[03:02] <michaelpo> this is rephrase no impatient.. i just installed ubuntu6.06... i have installed vlc player.... how do i make it the default player instead of totem...? when i double on a asdf.mov file... totem shows up... and could not play the file... i was trying to view the interview of www.joost.com i downloaded....
[03:02] <Daverocks> iuui: (with no arguments)
[03:02] <cypher1> michaelpo: i am not sure .. can you please explore whether there is any option in vlc
[03:02] <iuui> thanks
[03:02] <storeyzy_bio> iuui: sudo fdisk -l
[03:02] <Pici> michaelpo : if you right click, and go to properties (i think) you can set the default program for that file type, its in one of the tabs
[03:03] <nolimitsoya> michaelpo, right click, open with..., select your playter of choice and check the 'use as default' checkbox
[03:03] <lamego> michaelpo, on nautilus, use the Properties option, "Open With" tab
[03:03] <mcmuffinofdoom> nolimitsoya: it seems i need to download some things, but the problem is that it's the INTERNET adapter that'snot working,so that'snot really possible =(
[03:03] <Murchadh> kuma, Yeah! My own environment is slightly larger involving a wan but there is nothing of a secret or private nature on these drives so I don't worry about it and use this umask for all ntfs and vfat drives. Hope it all works out for you too!
[03:03] <rance> I need some advice, what is the best way to generate entropy while generating security keys, my key gen processes keep stalling out waiting for entrophy, how do I add more?
[03:04] <nolimitsoya> mcmuffinofdoom, put them on a cd and install using 'dpkg -i <foo>'
[03:04] <michaelpo> what nautilus?
[03:04] <nolimitsoya> michaelpo, nautilus is the filemanager for gnome (and therefore ubuntu)
[03:04] <Pici> michaelpo : nautilus is the file manager in gnome
[03:04] <michaelpo> how do i start nautilus?
[03:04] <edburns> gdb: If I make a change to postfix/main.cf, do I need to send a signal to someone to have it be read?
[03:05] <michaelpo> i just click places... home... that's nautilus?
[03:05] <Pici> yes
[03:05] <nolimitsoya> michaelpo, yes
[03:05] <mcmuffinofdoom> nolimitsoya: what does dpkg doo, copy thefiles toaCD/USB disk or download them and copiesthem right away? And the only linux machine i have is the one with the uninstallednetwork adapter
[03:05] <Fuzzy76> Are there any install cd's that has more drivers available than the alternative cd's?
[03:05] <rance> you could make your own install cd
[03:05] <nolimitsoya> mcmuffinofdoom, dpkg it the package installer.
[03:06] <_james> how can i update my breezy to edgy with no error?
[03:06] <mcmuffinofdoom> nolimitsoya: how do i get the filesfrom a windows machine
[03:06] <ortega10> i'm looking for a free / open source visual sql tool (query analyzer, views, tables, etc), that easily supports common non-free databases (oracle, mssql, sybase, etc), and ideally was multiplatform (both linux and windows)... any ideas?
[03:06] <nolimitsoya> _james, update from breezy to dapper, and from dapper to edgy
[03:06] <mcmuffinofdoom> nolimitsoya: i only have a working internet connection on windows boxes
[03:06] <nolimitsoya> mcmuffinofdoom, download them of the web
[03:06] <visik7> edburns: postfix quiet-releoad
[03:06] <michaelpo> there is no "use as default" checkbox when i right click
[03:07] <Fuzzy76> rance: That's probably out of my league. And kinda hard without a working Linux to begin with. :p
[03:07] <iuui> if i get ubuntu for mac (ubuntu ppc), i will have to find ports specificaly for ppc right? or compile from source?
[03:07] <pengulord> who wants pics of my new linux box
[03:07] <pengulord> i just brought it home
[03:07] <nolimitsoya> iuui, yes
[03:07] <vleon> can someone tell me how i disable ppoeconf configurations?
[03:07] <mcmuffinofdoom> nolimitsoya: uhm, okay, but where? I never dowloaded programs outside theterminal=p
[03:07] <iuui> nolimit:thanks again. (still tryingto figure out mount issue)
[03:07] <rance> I'll ask in #ubuntu-server
[03:08] <rance> sorry fuzzy, what is the problem exactly, what hardware are you having trouble with?
[03:08] <Fuzzy76> rance: nforce mcp55 integrated ethernet. I'm trying to install i386 ubuntu on an amd64 box.'
[03:09] <Fuzzy76> And I've tried 7 different install cd's. :-/
[03:09] <rance> ok, well forget trying different install cds, I only knew of 5
[03:09] <_james> nolimitsoya:  i mean dapper to edgy :)  how to upgrade with no errors :)
[03:09] <rance> hang on let me see if I have any notes on that
[03:09] <Fuzzy76> Feisty daily; desktop and alternative. Feisty herd2; desktop, alternative and mini. Edgy: desktop and mini.
[03:10] <B3N> Hi, I have a hard disk to where I copied a whole lot of stuff from another machine (mac). Many folders were locked with permissions. This is a drive that I constantly move around diferent machines and I don't want any permissions to interfere with that. How can I change it so that the drive is never affected by diferent permissions ?
[03:10] <Fuzzy76> none of them worked
[03:10] <nolimitsoya> !upgrade | _james
[03:10] <ubotu> _james: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:10] <Byan> wtf
[03:11] <nolimitsoya> Byan, i second that! (whatever its about)
[03:11] <Byan> anyone know why my volume while using headphones is screwy?
[03:11] <pengulord> becouse idk why lol
[03:11] <pengulord> no clue sorries
[03:11] <Byan> the volume thing doesn't do anything...
[03:11] <B3N> can anyone help please ?
[03:12] <vleon> can someone tell me how i disable ppoeconf configurations?
[03:12] <ubuntu> hello
[03:12] <badstue> hey
[03:13] <ubuntu> i am using 1st time ubuntu
[03:13] <ubuntu> noob
[03:13] <ubuntu> i load it from a live cd
[03:14] <poncha> where can i alter locales settings? (what locales are to be generated, and what are system defaults). i was quite sure dpkg-reconfigure locales would do it, but obviousely not in ubuntu
[03:14] <badstue> does anybody know something about getting 100Mbit speed on a realtek 8139 networkcard !? ive tried ethtool and rtl8139-diag.. but without any real success
[03:14] <ortega10> i'm looking for a free / open source visual sql tool (query analyzer, views, tables, etc), that easily supports common non-free databases (oracle, mssql, sybase, etc), and ideally was multiplatform (both linux and windows)... any ideas ?
[03:14] <ubuntu> i want to ask if with livecd firefox crashes?
[03:14] <Fuzzy76> shouldn't think so
[03:15] <Pici> ortega10 : try looking on freshmeat.net .
[03:15] <ortega10> Pici: well thanks for the useful answer  :)
[03:16] <Pici> ortega10 : I had one at one point in time, but I cant remember the name and I dont have it installed anymore
[03:16] <rance> fuzzy, sorry but I cant help you, I thought I had some notes on that, but I was mistaken
[03:16] <or_ubuntu> Jemand aus Germany
[03:16] <leobloom> hallo
[03:16] <CheshireViking> in advance of repartioning an ntfs volume with win xp installed to free space to install ubuntu, i want to defragment the drive & consolidate the data to leave a one large area of free space on the drive to minimise the risk of data loss, can anybody recommend a free utility that will that, i've tried a couple, but they only defragment the files - one Perfectdisk does, but the trial has expired and as I only want a to use it once, i
[03:16] <leobloom> ich bin italiener aber ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch
[03:16] <CheshireViking> 'd prefer not to have to buy it
[03:17] <leobloom> guys is this a bug? : I download files form the weeb save them on desktop and after 4 or 5 they all are saved at the same spot on the desktop, one above the other
[03:17] <or_ubuntu> Sehr schn. hier kommt meine Frage :
[03:17] <Pici> !de or_ubuntu
[03:17] <Asche_83m> or_ubuntu: f'up to #ubuntu-de
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de or_ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <Pici> !de | or_ubuntu
[03:17] <ubotu> or_ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:17] <chimeres> Hi everyone, i have a problem with a program called code::blocks. (bad bad english i know)
[03:17] <iuui> hi, problem saving a file with firefox. i try to save it to floppy, and i get '[FILE
[03:18] <iuui>  cannot be saved because you cannot change the contens of that folder
[03:18] <Pici> leobloom : what are you using to download the files?
[03:18] <Fuzzy76> rance: Yeah, I've been Googling myself for days. Thanks for trying, though.
[03:18] <iuui> any suggestions?
[03:18] <chimeres> It just doesn't work, and nothing is shown while trying executing it by the console.
[03:18] <rance> Fuzzy, you still have the book that goes with that main board?
[03:18] <vleon> can someone tell me how i disable ppoeconf configurations?
[03:18] <dorkie> i need som quick help. how can i remove data from a log file without "replaceing" it?
[03:19] <leobloom> just right button save link as
[03:19] <chimeres> And it uses 100%UC, any suggestions?
[03:19] <rance> or do you have a spare nic laying around?
[03:19] <or_ubuntu> OK, danke ich werd gleich bei #ubuntu - de reinschauen
[03:19] <Data_> iuui, you just don't have rights on floppy
[03:19] <Murchadh> iuui, Save it to home and then copy to the floppy as root!
[03:19] <badstue> !8139
[03:19] <iuui> data: yeahm, i know
[03:19] <iuui> :)
[03:19] <Fuzzy76> rance: Yes, but at home. So I will have to look at that later.
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 8139 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <Pici> leobloom : in firefox?
[03:20] <Data_> add floppy group in your user's
[03:20] <iuui> murchadh: i've beend doing that, but i'm trying to do it through firefox, it doesn't amek any sense!
[03:20] <badstue> !100Mbit
[03:20] <Fuzzy76> I guess I could look for a spare nic, that's actually a pretty good idea. :)
[03:20] <leobloom> yep in firefox , the defalut one on edgy eft
[03:20] <rance> Fuzzy, I would throw in a spare nic, and get ubuntu running with that then you can experiment with the integrated one later
[03:20] <iuui> data: you mean chmod? everytime i use that on the mount point, nothing at all happens.
[03:20] <Murchadh> iuui, Hehe, Data_ has a good suggestion ^!
[03:20] <iuui> please explain
[03:20] <Fuzzy76> yeah... I had Kubuntu running on it earlier, I don't understand what I did back then....
[03:20] <Data_> why not
[03:21] <biscuit> Hi gotta short questions, how can I create an account on my system with root rights?I cant login in my admin account because I unfortunaly changed it to an home directory which not exist.But I still know my root password.
[03:21] <Fuzzy76> gotta go
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 100Mbit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <Murchadh> Data_, I was being serious....
[03:21] <iuui> data: it literally does nothing. i'll do 777, or a+w, and the permissions stay the same
[03:21] <Data_> maybe it's more efficient in administration menu users and group
[03:21] <atoponce> Murchadh: i went to bed last night, and didn't see a response. anything on amarok and last.fm?
[03:21] <Pici> leobloom : thats odd, I'd try making sure your system is updated, maybe try asking in #firefox
[03:21] <rance> sorry I couldnt do better
[03:22] <lessssol> roar
[03:22] <leobloom> it is, I donload the updates everyday
[03:22] <_james> what's the command in the terminal to force kill a process?
[03:23] <leobloom> well all in all it's not suck a big problem... i just wanted to see if it is a bug ...
[03:23] <atoponce> _james: kill <pid>
[03:23] <iuui> date: just got back from users & groups gui, and "use floppy disc" is checked. this is kinda baffeling to me...
[03:23] <iuui> date>data (sorry!)
[03:23] <Data_> _james, kill pidID shown with ps ax command
[03:24] <biscuit> dont  anyone some answer? -.-
[03:24] <_james> atob:  ok what's the command to display pid list?
[03:24] <biscuit> *have
[03:24] <slan0>  hello
[03:24] <slan0> :)
[03:24] <Pici> _james : ps ax | grep <processname>   will get you the pid
[03:24] <atoponce> _james: ps aux | grep <process>
[03:24] <iuui> bisuite: can you try su?
[03:24] <_james> ok thnx
[03:24] <chimeres> Do you know what GUI toolkit was used on the commercial program pixel?
[03:24] <leobloom> biscuit I fear you can't create a root... you need to be a root to give admin rights already...
[03:25] <leobloom> but I'm a noob at this  =o)
[03:25] <biscuit> hm..ok than I make a lot of nonsens leobloom...^^
[03:25] <biscuit> *made
[03:25] <jessid> is there any #java channel in spanish?
[03:25] <devilsadvocate> biscuit, what is the problem?
[03:26] <iuui> biscuite - if you know the password, can't you simply use SU command to swtich and then setup a new acouunt?
[03:26] <biscuit> the problem is I cant login ass admin on my machine
[03:26] <biscuit> *as sorry
[03:26] <slan0> seks
[03:26] <stormchas3r> what exactly does "linux-image-server" do?
[03:27] <devilsadvocate> biscuit, have you disabled sudo?
[03:27] <biscuit> Yes , but I dont know the command for add than a new administrator, I think I boot ubuntu than up in recovery mode and do this
[03:27] <biscuit> hm it is disabled sudo
[03:27] <Data_> biscuit, can you log in a shell?
[03:27] <iuui> biscuit - can't you simply make a new home directory, using the name of the one you deleted?
[03:27] <devilsadvocate> biscuit, boot into recovery mode and in the terminal type "passwd root"
[03:28] <slan0>  ima li neki srbin ovde
[03:28] <slan0>  a?
[03:28] <slan0>  srbi su zakon
[03:28] <ortega10> i'm looking for a free / open source visual sql tool (query analyzer, views, tables, etc), that easily supports common non-free databases (oracle, mssql, sybase, etc), and ideally was multiplatform (both linux and windows)... any ideas?
[03:28] <biscuit> and than devilsadvocate?(sorry for the question but I am noob)
[03:28] <devilsadvocate> enter the new password
[03:29] <devilsadvocate> reboot
[03:29] <devilsadvocate> login as root
[03:29] <Enverex> How do I set my bluetooth key when using kbluetooth?
[03:29] <mnoir> slan0: what language you speak?
[03:29] <biscuit> hm okay ^^
[03:29] <iuui> biscuite - i thought you said you knew your password, but had deleted the /home directory or something
[03:29] <[[slan0] ] > serbia
[03:29] <biscuit> Yeah I know the password
[03:29] <[[slan0] ] > ne znam engleski
[03:29] <biscuit> but I cant login as admin
[03:30] <devilsadvocate> biscuit, it might not be possible for you to login as root from gdm even then. in that case, logn as a  normal user and then in a terminal type  "su"
[03:30] <Data_> home directory of root is /root; it is not in /home
[03:30] <adrian_> biscuit ...ce problema ai ?
[03:30] <IdleOne> !ru
[03:30] <leobloom> not even via terminal buiscuit?
[03:30] <Tenris> Hello, when I boot my cd and I press start, linux is decompressed, then I got this : PCI : error while updating region :x
[03:30] <devilsadvocate> biscuit, by default roo tlogins from gdm are disabled
[03:30] <[[slan0] ] > mnoir serbia
[03:30] <iuui> once you use SU, simply mkdir the directory you deleted
[03:30] <biscuit> thats the problem, I created now a normal user because I dont know how do make an admin
[03:31] <biscuit> and here with the normal user I cant use sudo su in a terminal
[03:31] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:31] <devilsadvocate> just type su in a terminal
[03:31] <iuui> what happes when you try using su?
[03:31] <devilsadvocate> no sudo
[03:31] <Data_> sun and sudo are differents
[03:31] <Data_> sudo use your password
[03:32] <iuui> sudo -> can execute one command, su changes the actual user
[03:32] <Murchadh> atoponce, username without the ampersand et al! It's working for me, as I just tried it. You still having trouble?
[03:32] <biscuit> ok i type su now in than it says type in password and her that is coming : su: Authentication failure
[03:32] <biscuit> Sorry.
[03:32] <Data_> su not sun
[03:32] <dromer> hmm, I sometimes see squares with 4 numbers where there should be text, what am I missing?
[03:32] <iuui> ahhh...i think i know what's going on
[03:32] <Pici> biscuit : login as root and use your passwrod
[03:32] <iuui> did you originally set the password
[03:32] <iuui> if not, try su root passwd
[03:32] <iuui> and it will prompt you for one.
[03:32] <biscuit> yeah i set it the password
[03:33] <Rio> im trying to get apache2 running remotely.  i executed command and it says "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName. httpd already running".  ive already forwarded port 80 on my router, so what else is there?
[03:33] <Pici> iuui : i dont think he can login at all
[03:33] <iuui> try "su root passwd"
[03:33] <xover> nice
[03:33] <iuui> and type in anything
[03:33] <biscuit> iuui this I tried now and it comes authetification failure  to
[03:33] <stormchas3r> Anyone know what "linux-image-server" is for or what it does?
[03:33] <xover> does anyone know how to get coloured konsole's
[03:33] <xover> i.e. ls -l produces colored output
[03:34] <stormchas3r> xover setting?
[03:34] <leobloom> uhm how come I can't save stuff directly in a folder i created on desktop but only in home desktop or filesystem?
[03:34] <IntuitiveNipple> stormchas3r: It provides boot-images for bootp clients, ifaik
[03:34] <xover> that allows me to change bg and fg colors
[03:34] <stormchas3r> xover schemes?
[03:34] <jrib> biscuit: do you have your first account with sudo privileges?
[03:34] <biscuit> maybe its best when I install ubuntu new
[03:34] <tuskernini> leobloom, you shold be able to
[03:34] <Data_> Rio, the FQDN is in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[03:34] <iuui> biscuite - sounds like you don't know the password then afterall?
[03:34] <biscuit> no its just a admin account
[03:34] <Data_> httpd.conf is not more used
[03:34] <iuui> you could crack it.
[03:34] <Pici> biscuit : do you know the root password?
[03:35] <jrib> biscuit: I don't know what that means
[03:35] <iuui> pici: he says he does, but he can't use su to switch to root
[03:35] <mnoir> xover: look in your .bashrc for "enable color support of ls" and uncomment the code there
[03:35] <iuui> pici: authentication failure
[03:35] <Rio> Data_ whats FQDN?
[03:35] <biscuit> iuui I am 100% sure I know the password because I wanted to login as admin and it accept the password but than throwed me out, because of the home directory..dont know at all what this menas
[03:35] <leobloom> tuskermini I dunno , i've never noticed before that I oculdn't
[03:36] <xover> stormchas3r: ls -l will show each type of file in a different color
[03:36] <Byan> configure: error: *** GDK_PIXBUF >= 0.21.0 not installed - please install first ***
[03:36] <Data_> Fully Qualifid Domain Name (your server name like myPC.mydomain.com
[03:36] <iuui> biscuit: cd /, is there a directory called "root"?
[03:36] <devilsadvocate> why do you think it is because of the home directory?
[03:36] <Byan> anyone have any idea what I need to install..
[03:37] <biscuit> I can switch into the root directory yes
[03:37] <jrib> Byan: what are you compiling?
[03:37] <Rio> Data_ what were you saying about httpd.conf
[03:37] <iuui> biscuit: but you're saying you get an error when you login that there's no home directory?
[03:37] <Nielsken> hi all, what's the command to make the toolbar above an extra connection so I can switch between wired or wireless?
[03:37] <Byan> jrib: an xmms plug-in
[03:37] <Jowi> anyone managed to set the framebuffer to 1280x1024 in grub/lilo and have the 945GM chipset?
[03:37] <biscuit> yes that some one must owning it ore something like that...
[03:37] <xover> mnoir: there is not ref to color in my bashrc or /etc/bashrc
[03:38] <jrib> Byan: which one?
[03:38] <mnoir> xover: what release - 6.10 ?
[03:38] <Byan> http://sourceforge.net/projects/vumeterplugin/
[03:39] <kostya> Hi All
[03:39] <xover> mnoir:2.6.17-10-generic
[03:39] <Data_> biscuit, what do you mens by admin; root or a new user called admin?
[03:39] <biscuit> But when I could create n account which have admin rights I could but the home directory back to that user and everything would work, so I need the command how to create when you are root a admin account
[03:39] <jrib> Byan: apt-cache search -n lib gdk pixbuf dev
[03:39] <tuskernini> hi kostya
[03:40] <mnoir> xover: i meant ubuntu, not os but that tells me 6.10 (due to generic) -- odd - I have the code in my .bashrc
[03:40] <Zaggynl_> Anyone here has an Creative Labs SB Audigy LS sound card?
[03:40] <iuui> data: do you think this is a 2600 type deal - with the root password needed and all?
[03:40] <Data_> biscuit, What do you men by admin; root or a new user called admin?
[03:40] <biscuit> I mean not root, I just mean a new user with rights like the standard user by ubuntu which can add persons to group and do network administrative tasks
[03:40] <bauer77> good morning all
[03:40] <kostya> guys, just wondering how can I get a google.key file to use deskbar to search google in ubuntu? it does not seem that google is sending these key files anmore
[03:40] <mnoir> xover: try ls --color=auto and say if that works
[03:40] <Byan> jrib: k, got it
[03:40] <Byan> thanks
[03:41] <tuskernini> bauer77, it is 3.46 here... morning?
[03:41] <tuskernini> we are the world
[03:41] <bauer77> hee good point tusker
[03:41] <kostya> bauer77: 1.41am... :) here
[03:41] <Murchadh> xover, add the following alias to .bashrc - alias ls='ls --color -as'
[03:41] <bauer77> nice 9 34 here
[03:41] <bauer77> am
[03:41] <iuui> biscuit: when you login and you get the -missing home directory - error, you are using root as the user name?
[03:42] <Nielsken> can someone help me with adding a connection switch
[03:42] <kostya> so...does anyone here using gnome deskbar with google search?
[03:42] <Data_> iuuidon't understand this  do you think this is a 2600 type deal - with the root password needed and all?
[03:43] <biscuit> I am using than the user which I created by the install with ubuntu...its not a root user at all, when I want for example copying out of my home directory I need the sudo command
[03:43] <xover> mnoir: that works so does Murchadh.
[03:43] <mnoir> Murchadh: you are giving xover irrelevant parameters - what does -as have to do with color?
[03:43] <mnoir> xover: what do you mean Murchadh works?
[03:44] <Tenris> None could help me ?
[03:44] <bauer77> anyone here that can help me install my ATI Radeon Mobility in Ubuntu, I am a noob and am getting lost
[03:44] <deny[all] > Jowi: hi, remember me?
[03:44] <Pici> Tenris : can you repeat your question?
[03:44] <iuui> biscuit: so when you copy out of your home directory, you use sudo to do it?
[03:44] <Murchadh> mnoir, Sorry, it's what's in my .bashrc and I neglected to strip out the unneeded code!
[03:44] <bauer77> I tried to install the drivers from ati but I dont think they installed properly
[03:44] <biscuit> yes iuui
[03:45] <Jowi> deny[all] , yep. but not what the topic was about.
[03:45] <iuui> biscuit: but i thought you said sudo doesn't work.
[03:45] <mnoir> xover: could you pastebin your .bashrc?  the correct code should have been in it
[03:45] <deny[all] > Jowi: usplash problem
[03:45] <kostya> bauer77: try ubuntuforums, there are some very useful tutors on how to install aTI drivers
[03:45] <biscuit> yes ut has worked, it was when I was in the account
[03:45] <Tenris> Pici> When I press "start or install" with a desktop version, I got an error : "PCI : error while updating region"
[03:45] <biscuit> *iuui
[03:46] <Jowi> deny[all] , ...with a vaio :)
[03:46] <bauer77> thanks kostya i have tried that first but still having issues
[03:46] <deny[all] > Jowi: i found the solution, just need to reconfigure the kernel image. : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_Usplash
[03:46] <kostya> bauer77: what kind of issues?
[03:46] <deny[all] > Jowi: yes with the vaio :)
[03:46] <xover> mnoir: which .bachrc.. my ~/ one or the /etc/bashrc
[03:46] <ubuntu> hi
[03:46] <ortega10> well bye, and thanks to all for your suggestions, or at least the good intentions in case you didn't get to make any suggestions... i guess there isn't such a tool, or no one knows it, or who knows what's the problem...
[03:46] <biscuit> this is now tricky , I think you havent at all get what I meant, I just wanted to descripe the previleges of the account what I had and ith what privileges I want to create an account
[03:47] <bauer77> well the driver seemed to install properly, (as far as I know) but it doesnt appear to be working
[03:47] <ubuntu> !wifi
[03:47] <mnoir> xover: the one in /etc is without the dot - dots are important - i wanted to see the one in your home, that has a dot :)
[03:47] <patbam> hi folks, this is from october so i'm wondering if some version of the ruby1.8-dev package he mentions is in synaptic now; if it is i can't find them, anyone know what the name would be? http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/hoanga/2006/10/27/fixing-mkmf-load-error-ruby-in-ubuntu/ (the
[03:47] <bauer77> very slow frame rates
[03:47] <iuui> biscuit: i'm trying VERY hard to understand the issue you're having...
[03:47] <biscuit> *and which account with special privileges I want to create
[03:47] <Jowi> deny[all] , so you had altered the usplash image or something?
[03:47] <Tenris> Pici> Any idea ?
[03:48] <biscuit> iuui, yes I know...I think I my English is the problem
[03:48] <ubuntu> biscuit,  whats wrong?
[03:48] <iuui> no, my stupidity is the problem :)
[03:48] <biscuit> no^^
[03:48] <Peres_> !info nicotine
[03:48] <bauer77> someone had todl me to use automatix, but I only saw Nvidia drivers there
[03:48] <iuui> when you go to system>administratrion>users and groups...what happens?
[03:49] <Enverex> ARGH, I'm trying to use kbluetoothd and every time I try and connect something the device asks the for the PIN and it's always wrong, it doesn't ask me for the pin on the PC side it just always says its wrong
[03:49] <mnoir> xover: i never recomment changing the /etc one as it is global and you might need it as a guide someday :)
[03:49] <ubuntu> Enverex,  noki phone?
[03:49] <bauer77> Enverrex did you try 0000 or 1111 or 1234?
[03:49] <ubuntu> nokia*
[03:49] <biscuit> thats the problem..I started before the kernel in recovery mode and created an account...and here when I klick on that, there isnt an users and groups..thats the problem
[03:49] <ubuntu> it is 1234 in nokia
[03:49] <Enverex> ubuntu, Sony Ericsson
[03:49] <spamhog> Hi!  I have a few 6.06.1 LTS CDs ready - how can I see if ithey are Alternate or Desktop?
[03:50] <xover> mnoir: thanks the problem was that I did not have an alias setup
[03:50] <storeyzy_bio> spamhog: do a md5sum
[03:50] <mnoir> xover: k :)
[03:50] <ubuntu> spam did u order cd's ftrom shipit?
[03:50] <Data_> biscuit look in private talk
[03:50] <Enverex> ubuntu, No, the phone is asking for the PCs key. Normally one side asks for the key then you enter that same key on the other side, but I only get asked on the one side and it just always says it's wrong
[03:50] <ubuntu> Enverex,  try 0000
[03:50] <xover> mnoir: now just to make vi recognise codes
[03:50] <xover> :)
[03:50] <Pici> Tenris : I've been looking for an answer, take a look at this bug report to see if it looks relevant, I'm not sure if theres an immediate fix:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[03:50] <Enverex> ubuntu, Tried it, and 1234, 8888, etc
[03:50] <biscuit> data_ : where can I do this? I am very new to irc and uuntu
[03:51] <biscuit> *ubuntu
[03:51] <kostya> bauer77: try glxinfo | grep direct and check the result.
[03:51] <ubuntu> Enverex,  i got it i think
[03:51] <ubuntu> Enverex,  open /etc/bluetooth
[03:51] <ubuntu> there u can set ur own code
[03:51] <deny[all] > Jowi: yes i was, but i forgot that
[03:51] <atoponce> Murchadh: yeah still having issues
[03:51] <ubuntu> do that ok
[03:51] <iuui> biscuit: so you're in recovery mode, or you're at the command line?
[03:51] <Data_> in the left pannel
[03:52] <Crescendo> I have a sneaking suspicion that DNS resolution is being ridiculously slow... is there any way I can check up on this?
[03:52] <biscuit> actually I am loged in as an normal user
[03:52] <Murchadh> atoponce, Log into their wbsite to verify your details?
[03:52] <ubuntu> Enverex,  there should be a file named pin or something in /etc/bluetooth
[03:52] <ubuntu> open that
[03:52] <ubuntu> see what it is set to?
[03:52] <bauer77> kostya     direct rendering: No
[03:52] <bauer77> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:52] <bauer77> v
[03:52] <Enverex> ubuntu, There isn't
[03:52] <ubuntu> umm
[03:52] <iuui> well, whatever data is about to tell you to do, if it works - share it with the rest of us :) because i'm pretty lost
[03:52] <kostya> bauer77: hmm..that does not looks good :)
[03:52] <Data_> click on right button of your mouse on my nick an choose private
[03:52] <bauer77> yes i know
[03:53] <bauer77> :-)
[03:53] <server3> jrib: Yes, I found mysql "include" dir. Now I got exim-4.5 destribution and trying to build it with mysql support. I wrote it makefile and place there information about mysql "include" path. Then I executed `make` by root. I had answer like "Can't find db.h file". I can post whole log from `make`.
[03:53] <spamhog> Is there ANYthing short of a checksum to tell Alternate or Desktop apart? Where do I look up a grub install script? (am on a Win$$ comp!)
[03:53] <biscuit> hm, ok when I get on where on the left panel he means to klick..*lol*
[03:53] <ubuntu> spamhog,  if u ordrered cd from shipit
[03:53] <iuui> biscuit: otherwise i have no idea, so hopefully data can help you - good luck!
[03:53] <ubuntu> then it aint alternat
[03:53] <Gosha> !ntfs
[03:53] <Ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:53] <Gosha> !fuse | Gosha
[03:53] <biscuit> thank you iuui :)
[03:53] <ubuntu> if during startiup of cd u see text install option, then it is alternatre
[03:53] <ubuntu> ok
[03:54] <jrib> server3: have you check the repositories for exim?
[03:54] <Gosha> !fuse
[03:54] <jrib> !info exim
[03:54] <Gosha> ... u
[03:54] <Gosha> h
[03:54] <Ubotwo> exim - An obsolete MTA (Mail Transport Agent), replaced by exim4 - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[03:54] <mnoir> ooh - the bot is real laggy today!
[03:54] <server3> jrib: Yes. It is full.
[03:54] <jrib> server3: what do you mean "it is full"?  What is full?
[03:54] <Jowi> server3, "full" mean drunk in swedish
[03:55] <spamhog> ubutu: I have a few burned copies marked Ubuntu 6.06.1, the LTS, no telling if Alt. or DT....
[03:55] <atoponce> Murchadh: yeah. can login, play the radio online just fine.
[03:55] <Data_> what irc client do you use biscuit?
[03:55] <atoponce> Murchadh: changed my pass thinking maybe i had it wrong, and still nothing
[03:55] <biscuit> I use Gaim
[03:55] <Data_> i am using xchat
[03:55] <server3> jrib: Yes. It's drunk fully.
[03:55] <kostya> guys, just wondering is anone here using deskbar with google search enabled?
[03:55] <Gosha> eh..
[03:56] <Rio> Data_ i dont know what to edit in apache2.conf.... have you started an apache server before?
[03:56] <LjL> the bot is muted, there's ubotwo though, but he was parted when you asked those factoids
[03:56] <LjL> !fuse
[03:56] <Ubotwo> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:56] <server3> jrib: Sorry for my english, I'm foreing.
[03:56] <jrib> server3: there is a package called exim4 in the repositories.  Is that what you are trying to compile?
[03:57] <server3> jrib: No, I downloaded it from exim.org
[03:57] <biscuit> Data_ do you see that I wrote something?
[03:57] <Data_> Rio, yes of course I had
[03:57] <jrib> server3: yes, I'm saying there is no need to download it from exim.org, just install it from the repositorieis
[03:57] <Data_> Why don'yt you use webmin?
[03:57] <ason> hi
[03:57] <atoponce> Murchadh: there isn't a port i need to open, is there? just streams over port 80, no?
[03:58] <server3> jrib: But I have no easy manual how to configure it.
[03:58] <Enverex> Anyone know how to pair Bluetooth devices to use things like serial ports etc?
[03:58] <fuzzy76_> If I do a plain console install, apt-get ubuntu-desktop is all I need to upgrade to a full install later, right?
[03:58] <dman> rentleech.org
[03:58] <Data_> Rio, you can ask there in english section of forum: http://www.lugthudinie.be
[03:59] <jrib> server3: the package exim4-doc-info seems to contain the documentation
[03:59] <Rio> Data_ whats webmin? the only thing in apache2.conf that refers to "servername" concerns reports
[03:59] <atoponce> Murchadh: do i need to add a stream first, before playing?
[04:00] <server3> jrib: You right, but I need tutorial, there is no it.
[04:00] <kostya> guys, just wondering is anone here using deskbar with google search enabled?
[04:01] <IdleOne> Fuzzy76: ubuntu-desktop will get you the gnome desktop so yes from a server install you do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <IdleOne> Fuzzy76: you will still need to add the !repos
[04:01] <jrib> server3: you're right, I don't know if that includes a tutorial.  But why not use the packages from the repository and then read the tutorial online?
[04:01] <dromer> hmm, I sometimes see squares with 4 numbers where there  should be text, what am I missing?
[04:02] <Rio> im trying to get apache2 running remotely.  i executed command and it says "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName. httpd already running".  ive already forwarded port 80 on my router, so what else is there?
[04:02] <Data_> Rio, Webmin is a web interface to administer easyly your computer
[04:02] <Murchadh> atoponce, If you go into playlists on the left hand side, is there a Last.FM folder with default streams in it?
[04:02] <LjL> dromer: sounds like Unicode text in a non-latin script that you don't have a font for
[04:02] <Data_> you can find it in http://www.webmin.com
[04:02] <|Whisper|> Can somebody help me? My Ubuntu always crashes after 30mins of work. Here are the log files of the system, if somebody could translate me where is the error...
[04:02] <Data_> use the .deb file to install it
[04:03] <dromer> LjL: hmm, it happens alot over synergy lately, mostly with links in gaim or stuff like that
[04:03] <server3> jrib: I'm not shure, that after installation, exim configuration and binaries will be what I want. Because, I'm trying to compile it manually.
[04:03] <biscuit> thank you Data_and iuui now I try to login, as root ..thank you :)
[04:03] <Jowi> anyone managed to set the framebuffer to 1280x1024 in grub/lilo and have the 945GM chipset?
[04:03] <dromer> LjL: text works, but links not
[04:03] <LjL> dromer: copy and paste one if you don't mind
[04:03] <Rio> Data_ why would i install webmin in order to get apache2 running, when i should be able to run apache server without it
[04:03] <Gosha> how do i turn of the kde VNC server that seems to be on all the time and asking if i allow random people to take control ?
[04:03] <dromer> ah link?
[04:03] <Data_> Rio, if you type localhost in your browser you'll can see your web server in action
[04:03] <LjL> dromer: yes, one of those with the square boxes
[04:03] <dromer> LjL: hmm, can't find one atm
[04:03] <|Whisper|> http://potfmedia.com/bg/logs.rar
[04:04] <jrib> server3: sudo apt-get build-dep exim4  will install the packages needed to build the ubuntu package.  Those will probably be similar to what you need to compile it from exim4
[04:04] <jrib> .org
[04:04] <Rio> Data_ if you havent noticed, i wrote that i am trying to do this REMOTELY
[04:04] <dromer> LjL: aargfg, and now it works again :/
[04:04] <Data_> your server is runing but without domain name
[04:04] <jrib> !compile | server3
[04:04] <Ubotwo> server3: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:04] <Rio> Data_ im logged onto my ubuntu from windows xp thru putty
[04:04] <Data_> using ssh I suppose
[04:04] <Data_> or telnet; what's the problem
[04:05] <mnoir> Rio: what does the command hostname return?
[04:05] <Rio> Data_ im already using ssh.... and im using xchat thru ssh
[04:05] <dromer> anyone: ever since I moved my /home to a different partition yesterday, Thunderbird keeps crashing every time I try to read  mail (if I don't touch it it stays on)
[04:05] <atoponce> Murchadh: aahh. ok. i see. my bad. i was going through the menu system... connects and plays now, but no sound
[04:05] <Data_> to lauch a service you must type as root:
[04:05] <server3> jrib: Yes, but I dont know how to configure it. I've googled all day to find easy manual how to configure exim-4.6, but I've not fount it.
[04:06] <dromer> I can click on the mail and read it, but wintin 10 seconds it crashes
[04:06] <Data_> /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:06] <Pici> Rio: you need to tell apache to use your router's address
[04:06] <Data_> the message you have is just to inform you
[04:06] <Murchadh> atoponce, Do you get sound playing any type of media?
[04:06] <LjL> |Whisper|: it's a bit beyond me, but a standard suggestion for that kind of kernel oops is to try starting the kernel with the "noapic" and/or "nolapic" or (if those fail) "acpi=off" parameters
[04:07] <Dynalon> hi, what do you guys use as filesystem on your external hdd on linux? i mean, ext3/xfs etc is not good because on different computer u have different uids so you can loose write access
[04:07] <Data_> you have access to your web server with IP address on you browser not domain name
[04:07] <jrib> server3: k well I don't know anything about exim.  Doesn't this help: http://www.exim-new-users.co.uk/ ?
[04:07] <Rio> mnoir you mean if i start the server? it says that it could not determine the fqdn, using 127.... blah blah.....and that httpd is already running
[04:07] <server3> jrib: Everywhere people say about exim.conf, but after installation I haven't found it anywhere.
[04:07] <Rio> Pici yeah, how do i do that...i looked in apache2.conf, and i dont know what to edit
[04:07] <mnoir> Rio: no, the command 'hostname' is run from a terminal
[04:07] <atoponce> Murchadh: yes
[04:07] <jrib> server3: where is it supposed to be
[04:08] <jrib> server3: /etc/exim/exim.conf  possibly?
[04:08] <atoponce> Murchadh: cds, oggs, other streams, all have sound
[04:08] <Data_> if http is already running than you web server is fully functional
[04:08] <Data_> just miss FQDN in you configuration file
[04:08] <Rio> well, like i said before, i cant just type in http://localhost because im trying to set this up remotely.....
[04:09] <Rio> Data_ what is this DQDN file... whats the name of it....
[04:09] <server3> jrib: Exactly, but there is no /etc/exim/exim.conf in /etc/exim directory
[04:09] <Data_> yes or type the IP
[04:09] <jrib> server3: create it
[04:09] <Rio> Data_ yeah, i tried that but it cant connect
[04:10] <jrib> server3: did exim get installed to /usr/local?
[04:10] <atoponce> Murchadh: nevermind. i have sound now. don't know what i did, but it wasn't anything special. :)
[04:10] <Data_> in you broser like: http://85.62.33.125 (for exemple) if you don't know it, type ifconfig in thz shell
[04:10] <Pici> Rio : I dont remember where exactly in the conf file the setting is, but each section has a few comments in front of it.  There should be a setting that has to do with NAT addresses
[04:10] <atoponce> Murchadh: thx for your help and patience on this. i do appreciate it.
[04:10] <Data_> You'll have the apache start page
[04:11] <Murchadh> atoponce, Glad it worked out and you are very welcome!
[04:11] <Rio> Pici what NAT stand for?
[04:11] <server3> jrib: I mean, I've said about it later. If I install it from repository fully automatically, I don't know where I install it before it been installed.
[04:12] <jrib> server3: well you can list where files get installed to with 'dpkg -L package_name'
[04:12] <jrib> server3: is there a reason you need to know where things go /before/ you install them?
[04:12] <Pici> Rio : check ports.conf , try changing the servername line to your router's address
[04:13] <server3> jrib: OK. What I should do to configure it?
[04:13] <Pici> NAT stands for network address translation, its how you have your own 192.168.x.x address inside your network while still maintaining your public ip at your router
[04:13] <jrib> server3: edit the exim.conf file
[04:14] <jrib> server3: I have a question though, did you install using the package?  or did you compile it yourself to install it?
[04:14] <Rio> Pici all it says in there is "listen 80".... so i would type ...what? i would need a command in front ot 192.168.1.1., wouldnt i?
[04:15] <Pici> Rio try something like this: servername 10.200.120.101
[04:15] <Pici> but with your address
[04:15] <Data_> lol pici
[04:15] <server3> jrib: It doesn't metter for me. My aim is to make strong and fast email server.
[04:15] <Rio> Pici i dont understand that tho....before it gets to the pc, it goes through the router.  but the problem is getting from the router to that pc....
[04:16] <Optimus> Hey All
[04:16] <Data_> rio, is you xp is on same network?
[04:16] <jrib> server3: install the exim4 package then and then you will be able to configure it by editing /etc/exim/exim.conf I'm sure
[04:16] <server3> jrib: Working about it
[04:16] <Rio> pici so it would be "listen 80", then the next line would be "servername <my ip address>"
[04:17] <dromer> anyone: ever since I moved my /home to a different partition yesterday, Thunderbird keeps crashing every time I try to read  mail (if I don't touch it it stays on)
[04:17] <Pici> Rio : yes
[04:17] <Data_> yes
[04:17] <Rio> Data_ there is one ubuntu machine, one on mac os x, and two xps on that network
[04:17] <Rio> okay ill try that pici
[04:17] <cypher1> dromer: is the thunderbird mails are located at /home ?
[04:17] <dromer> cypher1: afaik
[04:18] <Pici> Rio: you'll have to restart your apache daemon to see any changes
[04:18] <cypher1> dromer: you can create a symbolic link named "home" to the moved place
[04:18] <Data_> you can share you ubuntu desktop an use it with vncviewer
[04:18] <dromer> cypher1: the partition is mounted on /home
[04:18] <cypher1> dromer: ah
[04:18] <Optimus> Rio sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[04:18] <server3> jrib: Thax for answers.
[04:18] <Data_> of course pici I forget that; shame on me
[04:18] <dromer> I can open htunderbird, it even reads new mail, but as soon as I open the mail ..or I mean after about 5 secs it just closes without warning
[04:19] <cypher1> dromer: so the directory path needed by thunderbird has not changed ?
[04:19] <dromer> nope
[04:19] <jrib> server3: np.  It's usually a lot easier to work with the prepackaged stuff instead of compiling things
[04:19] <dromer> and afaik everything was copied to the new dir as well (all dot folders etc.)
[04:20] <biscuit> So it didnt work but I have here now what it tells me : User's $HOME/.dmrc file is beeing ignored.This presents the default session and language from being saved.File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions.Users $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by users....any ideas?
[04:20] <cypher1> dromer: so a new partition was mounted on /home and then all the data in the old /home were copied to it.. am i right
[04:20] <cypher1> dromer: what does you mount command shows ?
[04:21] <Rio> okay, i edited ports.conf to include the servername, saved and exited, restarted the server, then typed the ip in my browser and it still doesnt seem to work
[04:21] <jrib> biscuit: what didn't work?  What did you do?
[04:21] <Rio> says connection reset
[04:22] <magical_trevsky> if I have a cron job set to run under my username, it runs even if I'm not logged in at all, right?
[04:22] <Optimus> Rio -- are you outside the network?
[04:22] <Lynoure> magical_trevsky: pes.
[04:22] <Rio> Optimus yes i am
[04:22] <lamego> magical_trevsky, yes it does
[04:22] <magical_trevsky> Lynoure, lamego, thanks :)
[04:22] <biscuit> jrib , I was  unfortunaly switched the home directory and now I cant enter anymore in this account
[04:22] <Optimus> Rio -- Is the router set to redirect your ip to that particular machine?
[04:22] <livingdaylight> YO YO Guys!
[04:22] <livingdaylight> Fellow Ubunteros!
[04:22] <Lynoure> magical_trevsky: sorry, I'm very typoish :)
[04:23] <jrib> biscuit: join me in #ubuntu-classroom by typing:  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[04:23] <Rio> Optimus yes, i redirected port 80 to the local ip of the ubuntu machine
[04:23] <dromer> cypher1: yes, I'm not sure what commands I used to copy the files, I found one on google
[04:23] <Pici> Rio : Are you sure that your ISP isnt blocking connections on port 80
[04:23] <biscuit> ok
[04:23] <Rio> pici my isp? uhh....no, not sure
[04:23] <Optimus> Rio -- Try changing the port in your apache config to port 8181
[04:23] <Data_> Are you serious Pici?
[04:24] <frogzoo> nautilus is using a gig just for thumbnails, this is a bit greedy, can I set a limit somewhere?
[04:24] <Optimus> Then type 000.000.000.000:8181
[04:24] <Pici> Data_ : My ISP wont let me host a webserver, I need to serve off of port 81
[04:24] <Rio> Optimus then i would have to change the port on my router, right?...hrmmmm.... cant do that at the moment, since i would have to actually be there
[04:24] <cypher1> dromer: can you please check whether the permissions of folders and files are proper ?
[04:24] <Optimus> Rio -- who is your ISP?
[04:24] <cypher1> dromer: i guess you would be safe if the copy was something like "cp -p -R ..."
[04:24] <Data_> First news for me but I have no ISP
[04:25] <Data_> I am hosting Myself
[04:25] <Rio> Optimus damn, i cant remember.... its at my folks place... i think it's cox
[04:25] <Optimus> Data_ do you have a fiber line running to your house?
[04:25] <dromer> cypher1: no it was more complicated, first there was a complete list made with find, then it was copied to the partition with cpio
[04:25] <Rio> yeah it is cox
[04:25] <cypher1> dromer: ok.. not sure of it
[04:25] <Data_> no optimuis cable
[04:26] <dromer> cypher1: a complete archive was made to ensure all hidden files where copied
[04:26] <arron> Hi ive got a quick question how can i put an option in GRUB to boot windows xp safe mode?
[04:26] <Optimus> Rio -- JUst checked, COX blocks port 80
[04:26] <Rio> Data_ then how are you logged on to here?
[04:26] <Optimus> http://www.cox.com/sandiego/highspeedinternet/spamfaq.asp
[04:26] <Rio> Optimus how do you know that
[04:26] <Rio> ahhh dayam!!!
[04:26] <Rio> this whole time
[04:26] <Rio> hahaha
[04:26] <cypher1> dromer: check the directory used by thunderbird.. then from /home check you are allowed to traverse and open the files like inbox.. etc
[04:26] <Data_> xchat Rio
[04:26] <Optimus> Data_ if you have cable, then you have an ISP
[04:27] <Lynoure> taosaur: ask the channel and you'll see
[04:27] <Optimus> taosaur -- what you need?
[04:27] <frogzoo> !docs | taosaur
[04:27] <Ubotwo> taosaur: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[04:27] <cypher1> !ask | taosaur
[04:27] <Ubotwo> taosaur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:27] <Data_> yes optimus but hosting at home
[04:27] <Data_> my isp just give me IP
[04:27] <taosaur> Just wondered if any wireless adapters are better suited to ubuntu than others
[04:27] <Optimus> Data_ yeah, but without that, you'd be up the check n'est pas?
[04:28] <Rio> thanks Optimus, pici, mnoir
[04:28] <Data_> biebn entendu optimus
[04:28] <mnoir> Rio: you in?
[04:28] <Lynoure> taosaur: yes, some are less hassle. Which ones are you considering?
[04:28] <Data_> sorry of course
[04:28] <jewbilee> !restricted | Jewbilee
[04:28] <Ubotwo> Jewbilee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <Optimus> taosaur -- http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2007/01/12/linux-compatible-wireless-usb-adaptor-that-i-can-actually-buy/
[04:28] <Incubusattax> hello all
[04:29] <Incubusattax> can someone help me ?
[04:29] <taosaur> Lynoure: default would be Linksys PCMIA (sp?), since that's my router
[04:29] <Pici> !ask | Incubusattax
[04:29] <Ubotwo> Incubusattax: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:29] <Rio> mnoir nahh....optimus pointed out that cox blocks port 80.... so i gotta go back and change the port at my router
[04:29] <Incubusattax> ok
[04:29] <TuxCrafter> hi guys: what those this tool do ? perl /usr/share/system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts/SystemToolsBackends.pl
[04:29] <TuxCrafter> cat /usr/share/system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts
[04:29] <TuxCrafter> it is eating 10 MB of my memory
[04:29] <Incubusattax> :)
[04:29] <Lynoure> taosaur: hmm, I'll try to find the list. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo could be useful meanwhile
[04:30] <timo> any onse giam keeps on crashing ?
[04:30] <Optimus> taosaur -- 99% of Linksys is excellent kit for Linux
[04:30] <oidia> i cant find where to change encoding in xfc/terminal, i nead to temporarily change my outgoing (ssh) to iso..
[04:30] <steel_lady> please I need help with manual partitioning by ubuntu CD
[04:30] <Incubusattax> I have set up twinview and now it clones, but how do I make it one big screen because when I use LeftOf or RightOf, the display sucks
[04:30] <Reliant> I'm having a small problem with my fonts in Firefox on Ubuntu, there's a slight colour bleed (the black fonts have a bit of blue offset)
[04:30] <lamego> TuxCrafter, apt-cache show system-tools-backends
[04:30] <lamego> :P
[04:31] <Lynoure> taosaur: here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:31] <Reliant> and Firefox isn't the only app with that problem
[04:31] <TuxCrafter> Lamego: cant find if it is critical
[04:32] <steel_lady> is there somebody to give a hand to a blond wanting to install ubuntu?
[04:32] <taosaur> Great, thx all--I'll hit those links
[04:32] <Pici> Reliant : sounds like your font aliasing is messed up
[04:32] <Optimus> steel_lady -- what you need?
[04:32] <lamego> TuxCrafter, it mentions gnome system config, it seems critical to me, but it is not clear
[04:32] <TuxCrafter> lemago: i use xubuntu
[04:32] <TuxCrafter> lamego: i use xubuntu
[04:33] <lamego> ah
[04:33] <Incubusattax> I have set up twinview and now it clones, but how do I make it one big screen because when I use LeftOf or RightOf, the display is messed up
[04:33] <steel_lady> optimus, I am with the manual disk partitioning. I did a mess with it and I don't know how to resolve it. I have to do partitioning that is a bit complicated
[04:33] <basvg> hi guys... any clue when/if there will be a ruby gems .deb in the repositories?
[04:33] <Judicata> steel_lady: if you have a question, just ask away.
[04:33] <Optimus> steel_lady -- okay, what do you need as far as partitioning goes?
[04:33] <Murchadh> Reliant, I think you need to turn off font anti aliasing. Probably under settings > themes or some such!
[04:34] <Reliant> ok, I'll play around with it. I think I need to restart X when I change the anti-alias settings though
[04:34] <steel_lady> so, I resized windows partition, then I tried to make new ext3 pastition but it puts me exclamation beside it and does not let me to create more partitions because 4 primaries are allowed
[04:35] <Data_> Info for all windower$: ubuntu made a new i,staller running from window$!
[04:35] <TuxCrafter> The System Tools Backends are a set of cross-platform modules for Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris and other Unix systems. The backends provide an common DBus interface to all distros for modifying or reading the system configuration.
[04:35] <steel_lady> optimus, now I will describe all partitions:
[04:35] <Optimus> steel_lady -- you need to make Logical Partitions, not primary
[04:35] <DrJohnston> Is it possible to setup a RAID 1 mirror after i've already installed an OS on 1 drive?
[04:35] <steel_lady> optimus, I don't see the option to make logical partition!!!
[04:35] <DrJohnston> I've never setup a RAID array before, but i want to be able to mirror my data even though i've already installed crap on one of my drives
[04:36] <steel_lady> I have one fat32 partition. how to make it logical???
[04:36] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay, you have one partition made that is ext3 correct?
[04:36] <steel_lady> otimus I think it is not correct because it has the warning sign
[04:36] <Data_> don't forget /swap
[04:37] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay you have 1 windows partition, and probably one recovery partition, correct?
[04:37] <krang> Ok, noob question here, but if I want to keep my system up to date security-wise from the command line without compromising stability, what's the best way to update my system? I really don't need every app on the system updated for new features, do I?
[04:37] <steel_lady> optimus now I will tell you what I need of partitions to tell me how to arrange it
[04:37] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay
[04:38] <steel_lady> Optimus I need: 1)ntfs 2)ext3 for ubuntu 3) ext3 as home to work in linux 4) fat32 to share between linux and win 5) swap
[04:39] <steel_lady> optimus plus it is laptop of my boss where I can not touch data on win and fat32
[04:39] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay, make 1ntfs, then one big one for linux
[04:39] <Optimus> steel_lady, and one fat32
[04:39] <lamego> steel_lady, you can use ext3 to share data, there is an ext3 driver for windows
[04:39] <steel_lady> optimus now I will tell you the current situation that I have
[04:39] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: do not remove any other partitions!
[04:39] <break_> yep
[04:39] <break_> HD: [C:]  46.05/232.88 GB [E:]  37.49/40.55 GB [L:]  55.96/68.35 GB [M:]  0.00/0.00 GB
[04:40] <break_> L = ext2
[04:40] <livingdaylig> is Feisty looking good or is it too soon to tell?
[04:40] <Reliant> the problem was sub-pixel hinting. Gnome requires it, but KDE doesn't
[04:41] <Optimus> steel_lady, check out this http://www.matthewjmiller.net/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[04:41] <steel_lady> 1) ntfs already made and resized, win is there 2) ext3 done but with warning sign, I do not understand 3) space for linux home made but is not letting me make it a partition because of limits for primary 4) fat32 made and resized figures like primary that I do not know how to change 5) swap correctly made
[04:42] <Judicata> Reliant: how does Gnome require it? Can't you go into System -> Preferences -> Fonts and adust that?
[04:42] <braindead_moron> I have two ubuntu machines here, the desktop has a printer attached that prints just fine.  I"m trying to get the laptop to print through the desktop it via IPP, but not having any luck.  I modified cups.d/ports.conf and it is "listening" on 192.168.222.224:631, and I set the allow up in /etc/cupsd.conf, I can see the port is open (631) when I nmap the desktop from the laptop.  I'm using ipp://192.168.222.224/ss870 (which is
[04:42] <braindead_moron>  the name of the printer) as a uri but cups on the laptop always reports the printer as stopped ...
[04:42] <Judicata> Reliant: yeah, then go into "details" and turn hinting off.
[04:43] <gh0st> hello, how can i play .rm-streams? i have amd64 version, and i CAN play wmv files with vlc
[04:43] <Optimus> steel_lady, the problem is that you are trying to make too many primary partitions, most can only deal with a small number. What you have to do, is delete the home swap and make them sub (or logical) partitions of the first one
[04:43] <steel_lady> optimus, you see, I need only to know how to check that ext3 partition and how to assign logical partition to the other space and make it ext3
[04:43] <carld> I would like to ssh admin@1.2.3.4 into a new screen window and have a title of 'VPN Server'  How can I do this?
[04:44] <steel_lady> optimus, how do I do that?
[04:44] <Judicata> gh0st: there is a Realplayer10 for linux.
[04:44] <carld> gh0st, is that a real media stream?   You can download reaplyaler
[04:44] <Optimus> steel_lady, it should be an option when you create the partition
[04:45] <gh0st> so i'm goig to ask if there's an alternative
[04:45] <vandenoever> can i specify modules to use when booting ubuntu?
[04:45] <gh0st> as i HATE real player
[04:45] <gh0st> Judicata, card: are there any alternatives?
[04:45] <frogzoo> braindead_moron: lose the ss870 ?
[04:45] <Judicata> gh0st: MPlayer can play them, I'm pretty sure.
[04:45] <steel_lady> optimus, now I deleted swap so should I move fat32 to the last place and try to reorganize in between?
[04:46] <gh0st> Judicata: yes but with w32codecs or something?
[04:46] <Judicata> gh0st: Yes.
[04:46] <carld> gh0st, no idea if there is an alternative.  I have alway sused real player
[04:46] <gh0st> because i have amd64, and can't instal them
[04:46] <Byan> how do I change the orange screen in which gnome is loading to something else?
[04:46] <Judicata> gh0st: Oh. can you install realplayer and MPlayer, then?
[04:46] <Byan> and how do I change the boot screen into text?
[04:46] <Optimus> steel_lady, so long as there is nothing on the fat or the first ext3, delete both -- then once you have that free space, create the fat32 partition first, then create an ext3 partition
[04:46] <Reliant> Judicata, well, what I mean is, in order for fonts to look nice in Gnome, I had to turn on sub-pixel hinting. When I switched to KDE, I turned it on there, and it wasn't looking right (my problem). I turned it off, and it looks good now
[04:47] <Judicata> gh0st: just use MPlayer, but installying realplayer will install the codecs, I believe.
[04:47] <gh0st> Judicata: yes, mplayer works, vlc works even with wmv, but strangely not rm
[04:47] <Optimus> steel_lady, are you allowed to install software in WIndows?
[04:47] <steel_lady> optimus, there is a bit of data on fat
[04:47] <Judicata> Reliant: oh, i see.
[04:47] <steel_lady> optimus, I am not allowed
[04:47] <Judicata> gh0st: right, so instlal realplayer, and then trying playing the .rm stream in MPlayer.
[04:47] <Data_> G0sth: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/
[04:47] <steel_lady> optimus, I think I could remofe fat32 also
[04:48] <gh0st> Judicata: where could i install realplayer?
[04:48] <Optimus> steel_lady, don't if it has anything on it, you never know, okay create ONE ext3 partition on the computer
[04:48] <steel_lady> optimus, tell me which order should I put to my partitions keeping win first
[04:48] <Optimus> steel_lady, it doesn't really matter
[04:48] <gh0st> Data: which ones?
[04:48] <gh0st> Data_:which ones?
[04:48] <timo> dose any one have any thing good , Gtk gnutella is realy rubish
[04:48] <Judicata> gh0st: One way is through Automatix, if you have it. I believe it is i the repos
[04:48] <Data_> the fresh one
[04:48] <timo> and lime wire dont work
[04:49] <LjL> !automatix | gh0st, Judicata
[04:49] <Ubotwo> gh0st, Judicata: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:49] <Optimus> steel_lady, just make your it looks like this WINDOWS|EXT3|FAT32
[04:49] <LjL> it most definitely isn't in the repos
[04:49] <Byan> =/
[04:49] <uFo-Z_> hi all. i can see always hidden files if use software depending to gtk/gnome. like archiver, or any programm scrolling thru the directories. anybody knows howto change that 
[04:49] <uFo-Z_> ?
[04:49] <gh0st> Judicata: thanks, but i really do not want automatix messing up my clean system with unuseful. best would be to use mplayer or vlc
[04:49] <braindead_moron> nm, I got it
[04:49] <Judicata> paranoid bot.
[04:49] <steel_lady> optimus, ok now I am with 1)ntfs 2) free space that I intend to make for ubuntu, logical home and logical swap 3) fat32. is it okay?
[04:49] <Judicata> gh0st: search for realplayer in your repositories.
[04:50] <Optimus> steel_lady, yes
[04:50] <braindead_moron> though it is only printing jiberish
[04:50] <Pici> uFo-Z_ : try right clicking in the file listing part of the window and deselecting the show hidden files checkbox
[04:50] <Optimus> steel_lady, now, create the EXT3 partition
[04:50] <Data_> uFo-Z try CTRL+H
[04:50] <steel_lady> optimus, how should I make now ext3 with 2 additional logical partitions?
[04:50] <Optimus> steel_lady, make just one big ext3 partition
[04:51] <steel_lady> optimus, and how to assign logical parts to it later?
[04:51] <uFo-Z_> Pici, thank you alot. i just forgot that i enabled that months ago. that should be build in visible
[04:51] <Optimus> steel_lady, yes, you will insert the logical partitions within it
[04:51] <steel_lady> optimus: creat as primary partition or extended partition?
[04:52] <bauer77> how can I tell if CONFIG_AGP is enabled on the kernel or not?
[04:52] <Pici> uFo-Z_ : no problem
[04:52] <Optimus> steel_lady, create the new partition as a PRIMARY EXT3 partition
[04:52] <steel_lady> ok, optimus now what?
[04:53] <CotRo|eR> Hey anyone knows how to connect my nokia 6600 to my ubuntu machine via bluetooth and surf the internet on my mobile via 'ubuntu' ???
[04:53] <Valde> anyone wanna help me get my 2nd h/d working on this pc /q
[04:53] <Optimus> steel_lady, gimme a sec, I am goign to install the partition tool so I can walk you through this
[04:53] <steel_lady> ok, optimus thanx a lot
[04:54] <PaulusVictor> Does anyone have any experience with loading Ubuntu to an External Hard Drive?
[04:54] <luki> g
[04:54] <luki> ello
[04:54] <CotRo|eR> Hey anyone knows how to connect my nokia 6600 to my ubuntu machine via bluetooth and surf the internet on my mobile via 'ubuntu' ???
[04:54] <bowman> heya. for a dell inspiron 6400 with a t5500 cpu, I would download the 32bit version of Ubuntu, right?
[04:54] <server3> How to set installed exim as default MTA in OS?
[04:54] <luki> install irda-utilis
[04:55] <krang> Anyone: If I want to keep my system security up-to-date without installing all the other updates, how would I do that from the command line?
[04:55] <CotRo|eR> luki: with bluetooth not irda
[04:56] <luki> Anyone knows how and from where install skype to linux ubuntu??
[04:56] <luki> Anyone knows how and from where install skype to linux ubuntu??
[04:56] <bauer77> installing the ATI driver for my pc I get an error
[04:56] <jrib> !skype | luki
[04:56] <bauer77> Architecture: i686 (32-bit)
[04:56] <Ubotwo> luki: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:56] <bauer77> X Server: Unknown X Window
[04:56] <bauer77> cp: cannot stat `x710/usr/X11R6/bin/*': No such file or directory
[04:56] <bauer77> find: install/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: No such file or directory
[04:56] <bauer77> any suggestions
[04:56] <bulmer> PaulusVictor: if you can mount the external drive, then its very easy as it appears as just another directory
[04:56] <Optimus> okay steel_lady sorry, delete the ext3 partition
[04:57] <luki> Anyone knows how and from where install skype to linux ubuntu??
[04:57] <CotRo|eR> Hey anyone knows how to connect my nokia 6600 to my ubuntu machine via bluetooth and surf the internet on my mobile via 'ubuntu' ???
[04:57] <PaulusVictor> Bulmer: I've got Ubuntu up and running on my external drive, but if I try to update the kernel headers then the installation "breaks" and won't boot. I've followed all the instructions on the website and was looking for some additional info.
[04:57] <luki> Anyone knows how and from where install skype to linux ubuntu??
[04:57] <steel_lady> ok optimus now I have 1)win 2) a lot of free space 3)fat32
[04:57] <Optimus> steel_lady, then remake the ext3 partition as before
[04:57] <LjL> !skype | luki
[04:57] <Ubotwo> luki: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:57] <ubuntu_> back
[04:57] <steel_lady> optimus, should I move fat32 to front or should I operate only withs space between
[04:57] <ubuntu_> :)
[04:58] <LjL> !repeat | luki
[04:58] <Ubotwo> luki: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:58] <Optimus> steel_lady,  no, just the space inbetween
[04:58] <steel_lady> ok
[04:58] <frogzoo> !skype | luki
[04:58] <Ubotwo> luki: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:58] <Zamber> !pl
[04:58] <Ubotwo> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:58] <ubuntu_> !xgl
[04:58] <Optimus> steel_lady, now click on New again
[04:58] <Ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:58] <bulmer> PaulusVictor: like what kind of errors where you getting? the update does not put he files into your external drive so it is missing?
[04:58] <steel_lady> ok optimus I am listening
[04:59] <bulmer> *the
[04:59] <Optimus> and it SHOULD allow you to select the ext3 partition?
[04:59] <luki> a jebajcie sie
[04:59] <steel_lady> optimus ext3 is the first offer for the filesystem
[04:59] <PaulusVictor> Bulmer: I can't remember the exact error on boot, but it goes along the lines of "initramfs config something other" and then there is a kernel panic - "tried to kill init!"
[05:00] <ubuntu_> steel_lady:  sorry, mind if i ask , what are you trying to do?
[05:00] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay, now create the partition
[05:00] <PaulusVictor> Bulmer: I'd rather not reproduce the error as I would have to reformat and reinstall again, just wondering if this was a common problem.
[05:00] <steel_lady> optimus again as primary?
[05:00] <Optimus> steel_lady, yup
[05:01] <ubuntu_> hmm,ok
[05:01] <steel_lady> optimus I have that partition, what now?
[05:01] <Optimus> now click on the partition
[05:01] <Rprp>   BBking ChanServ Duiv`off Eggdrop Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Rprp`
[05:01] <Optimus> steel_lady, now click on the partition
[05:01] <aedrafzt> hey i have problem with audacity, when i record on one channel then it records fine but when i record on second channel and i check "Play other tracks while recording new one" it sounds very bad
[05:02] <steel_lady> ubuntu_ I am trying to arrange and format 5 partitions on my laptop
[05:02] <mikejanss> do i need to dl anything special to listen to mp3/m4a files?
[05:02] <ubuntu_> steel_lady:  oh okie dokie :)
[05:02] <mikejanss> it seems to not be working..
[05:02] <steel_lady> optimus, ok you want me to resize it or what?
[05:02] <bulmer> PaulusVictor: it seems like you may have missed a step, like in Suse, when kernel updates are done, you need to run some kind of mkinitrd to update the pointers to ramdisk when loading, and updates grub
[05:02] <ubuntu_> mikejanss:  yes u do
[05:02] <Optimus> steel_lady, no, I want you to click on the partition and then click on NEW
[05:02] <uttara> hello, everybody. Can anybody tell me how I can install the "Curses" library on ubuntu.
[05:02] <ubuntu_> mikejanss:  sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:02] <steel_lady> optimus, ok
[05:02] <ubuntu_> !amarok | mikejanss
[05:02] <Ubotwo> mikejanss: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:03] <dromer> I jus finally bought myself a usb-flash-drive (1gb), how can I use it?
[05:03] <Optimus> steel_lady, did it open up a new window?
[05:03] <steel_lady> optimus yes it is like I am making a new partition over it
[05:03] <PaulusVictor> Bulmer: I think you may be right. I updated the files but never ran a mkinitrd to update the pointers. Do you know if this information would be at the same place on the wiki that I followed to get Ubuntu installed or should I look elsewhere?
[05:03] <Tenris> Hi... when I try to start the install of ubuntu, I got that => http://www.pastebin.ca/321609 someone has an idea ?
[05:03] <steel_lady> optimus I suppose that now I have to resize extended partition?
[05:03] <Optimus> okay select the size of the partition, and select ext3, but then select LOGICAL
[05:03] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay select the size of the partition, and select ext3, but then select LOGICAL
[05:04] <CotRo|eR> !bluetooth
[05:04] <Ubotwo> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:04] <mikejanss> thanks
[05:04] <bulmer> PaulusVictor: am not sure where ubuntu information on this mkinitrd is, yeah you may have to look around
[05:04] <ubuntu_> mikejanss:  good, luck and np :)
[05:04] <steel_lady> optimus, for which partition I am selecting the size now?
[05:04] <delli> hi
[05:04] <CotRo|eR> !bluetooth pairing
[05:04] <Ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[05:04] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  hiya
[05:04] <Judicata> mikejanss: most (all?) music players will play mp3s and accs, but you need to install the codecs. Amarok is a great program, unless you strongly prefer Gnome-native apps.
[05:04] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  trying to connect to phone?
[05:04] <daget> hi
[05:04] <Optimus> steel_lady, do you have Y!M MSN or AIM?
[05:05] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: yes
[05:05] <mikejanss> im a n00b
[05:05] <mikejanss> i have no preferences
[05:05] <mikejanss> just whatever works
[05:05] <mikejanss> heh
[05:05] <mikejanss> just installed this yesterday
[05:05] <DrJohnston>  Is it possible to setup a RAID 1 mirror after i've already installed an OS on 1 drive?
[05:05] <ubuntu_> mikejanss:  lol
[05:05] <PaulusVictor> Bulmer: Thanks a lot, I'll go peak around and see what I can find.
[05:05] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: i want connect my nokia 6600 to my ubuntu machine via bluetooth and surf the internet on my mobile via 'ubuntu'
[05:05] <ubuntu_> mikejanss:  there are lots of mp3 player in synaptic, you can chk them out too
[05:05] <Judicata> mikejanss: Amarok does a whole lot, and you'll probably like it after you find your way around - it is probably the best music manager/player ever.
[05:05] <bulmer> PaulusVictor: np, sorry i have limited info on such
[05:05] <steel_lady> optimus yes, my msn: steel_lady@passport.com
[05:06] <jin> hello
[05:06] <jin> my ubuntu is very unstable
[05:06] <Kazero> Can anyone tell me why I wouldnt be able to change video drivers on my ATi based laptop? When I change them to "ati" or "radeon" or "fglrx" it fails to load ubuntu, only vesa seems to work
[05:06] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR: bluetooth server running?
[05:06] <CotRo|eR> yes
[05:06] <Judicata> mikejanss: but if you just want to play songs without taking up much memory, xmms is great. Exaile is a great amarok-like player for gnome and what I currently use.
[05:06] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: yes
[05:07] <mikejanss> to dl amarok...there is a Kubuntu distro...same as ubuntu?
[05:07] <Judicata> Kazero: what driver is it using now?
[05:07] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: you got any good guide how to make that?
[05:08] <Kazero> Judicata: Hello again :) Its running the vesa driver
[05:08] <noodles12>  i'm trying to install the pdf printer. I've installed cups-pdf and it shows up in /usr/lib/cups/backend, but it is nto in ~/backend-available. how do i make it available so i can actually choose it when adding a printer?
[05:08] <Judicata> Kazero: I just noticed it was you :)
[05:08] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  i was able to connect my nokia ngage :)
[05:08] <Zamber> I have a strange porblem. when I installed ubuntudesktop metapackage and rebooted i get a bad ramdisk error, how to get ubuntu working agin
[05:08] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  did u download the bluetooth apps for gnome from synaptic
[05:08] <Kazero> Judicata: It appears as though I cant install any other driver, and vesa doesnt appear to work with beryl.
[05:08] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: yes i did
[05:08] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  do 1 thing , open terminal
[05:08] <humbolto> how well is EVMS supported in EDGY and DAPPER?
[05:09] <Judicata> mikejanss: Amarok works great under ubuntu or kubuntu - just go to synaptic or apt-get it.
[05:09] <Zamber> sorrz for some bad grammar Im on knoppix DE
[05:09] <CotRo|eR> ok
[05:09] <bowman> I'm having installation problems on a Dell Inspiron 6400 - the live CD comes up fine, but the installed system hangs at boot with a "BUG: Soft lockup detected on CPU#0" - does anyone know a potential reason?
[05:09] <Judicata> Kazero: hmmmm...can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[05:09] <adop> Tenris: this might be relevant: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[05:09] <Manstein> Guys, any advise on how to change my 3000 singlecore athlon for a 3800 X2 ? Never done something like this on a linux system. I am using a self-compiled Wine, to run various games. Will I need to reinstall my system, or will a different "kernel" suffice?
[05:09] <Kazero> Judicata: Sure
[05:10] <lamego> Manstein, you shouldn't need to change anything on the system
[05:10] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: yes open terminal what then?
[05:10] <Manstein> lamego: Well that sounds nice :D , not even a smp kernel?
[05:10] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  run this command as root
[05:10] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  hcitool scan
[05:11] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  make sure bluetooth server is running
[05:11] <lamego> Manstein, if you are using the generic kernel... you don't :P
[05:11] <ubuntu_> and bluetooth device attached to usb
[05:11] <Kazero> Judicata: http://www.pastecode.com/12056
[05:11] <HymnToLife> Manstein, in Edgy, the default kernel has SMP support
[05:11] <lamego> if you are using dapper, you should use an smp kernel
[05:11] <Manstein> lamega, hymntolife, i'm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:12] <lamego> ok, then you should install an smp kernel
[05:12] <HymnToLife> then              sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[05:12] <SiLOX> !nvidia
[05:12] <Ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <Manstein> lemme open a text file :D
[05:12] <SiLOX> !beryl
[05:12] <Ubotwo> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:12] <Judicata> Kazero: ok, give me a second.
[05:12] <lamego> if its athlon, its not the 686 kernel
[05:12] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: yes it shows my phone, but what I want is to be able to configure it so i surf the internet on my nokia via bluetooth via ubuntu's connection to internet
[05:12] <SiLOX> !xorg
[05:12] <Ubotwo> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:12] <lamego> its the k7
[05:13] <Zamber> hello?
[05:13] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  ok just was seeing 1st if it is being detected or not
[05:13] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:13] <Manstein> lamego, hymntolife, will my system boot without any modifications ? (not that it will use the second core, but just to get started), or will i have to modify my system in advance?
[05:13] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  now use gnome-bluetooth to connect both devices
[05:13] <lamego> Manstein, just, it will just use 1 core
[05:14] <Manstein> lamego, tnx , will implement now.
[05:14] <lamego> you can use a single cpu kernel with multiple cpu systems
[05:14] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  its under application>>system tools
[05:14] <stoorty> !mp3
[05:14] <Ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <Judicata> Kazero: so, is it running right now?
[05:14] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: yes i did that now what?
[05:14] <Kazero> Judicata: Yeah, its what im on right now
[05:14] <ubuntu_> !amarok | stoorty
[05:14] <Ubotwo> stoorty: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:15] <Zamber> can someone help me? I installed ubuntu-desktop and I get a ramdisk read errror when booting. it says also that I should edit the root= part in the bootloader
[05:15] <ubuntu_> CotRo|eR:  do both connect?
[05:15] <B3N> What was that command again to give permissions  ? was it "sudo chmod -R 777 /media/HD2" cause i tried that and it didn't seem to work ?
[05:15] <ubuntu_> B3N:  chmod
[05:15] <stoorty> it tried to install mp3 support but it says that it crashed when i load it back up
[05:15] <CotRo|eR> it just says ready for bluetooth transfers
[05:15] <Judicata> B3N: is it a fat32 drive?
[05:15] <lamego> B3N, you can't set permission on a FAT32 filesystem
[05:15] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: it just says ready for bluetooth transfers
[05:15] <B3N> yes it's fat32
[05:15] <lamego> you must set the permissions at the mount level
[05:15] <Judicata> B3N: You need to set the permissions in fstab.
[05:15] <B3N> how do i do that ?
[05:16] <lamego> using the umask or uid,gid options
[05:16] <B3N> okay what do i write in fstab ?
[05:16] <oFFbeAt> hey this is really cool.. i place my mouse pointer over the mp3s n i can listen.. without clickin it .. no programs loaded visibly
[05:16] <oFFbeAt> :D
[05:16] <Judicata> B3N: I'll get you the code.
[05:16] <B3N> thank you
[05:17] <CotRo|eR> ubuntu_: it just says ready for bluetooth transfers
[05:17] <Enverex> Erm, I just opened Firefox and it seems to have forgotten everything. I no-longer have a homepage, all my bookmarks have gone and the settings are default
[05:17] <jmblack> Im considering buying a USB --> Serial adapter, can someone point me toward documentation on getting it to load the appropriate drivers? google made it seem as though I was going to need a kernel recompile
[05:18] <Zaggynl> How do I upgrade from dapper to edgy? safely :-)
[05:18] <andi5> hi... looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/0.9.29-0ubuntu1 ... why is not there a build for other architectures than i386? maintainer defaults says Architecture: any, and i thought if the build had not succeeded or completed yet, it would be printed there... thanks for any hint :)
[05:18] <mikejanss> how do i get amarok to play m4a...
[05:18] <lamego> my advice for upgrades is always have a split home partition, and do a fresh install, is always cleaner :P
[05:18] <Enverex> Anyone? I had a LOT of stuff in Firefox
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Zaggynl: gksudo "update-manager -c"
[05:19] <Zaggynl> okay thanks
[05:19] <Kazero> Judicata: Where'd you go?
[05:19] <andi5> Enverex: have you tried to start "firefox -ProfileManager"? maybe it shows you anything of interest... i do not know
[05:19] <Zaggynl> gnomefreak, is there a way of reversing in case things break?
[05:19] <Judicata> Kazero: I'm here, I was asking if your gnome was working
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Zaggynl: nope
[05:19] <Zaggynl> darn
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Zaggynl: if it breaks its because of outside software more than likely
[05:20] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[05:20] <jmblack> Zag, backups are your friend
[05:20] <Judicata> B3N: Acttually, jut try to add "umask=000" to your fstab, where the options for the fat32 drive are.
[05:20] <gnomefreak> Zaggynl: most of the time its fixable but wont know until its tried.
[05:20] <Zaggynl> I guess
[05:20] <Kazero> Judicata: You must have missed it, I said I was on it right now (Therefore working) :)
[05:20] <gh0st> what app can i use for a good linux dock (like osx)?
[05:20] <B3N> ok i'll try that thanks
[05:20] <ctkroeker> I cant login anymore with my default account. I tried deleting a bunch of the default gnome hidden files but no diff
[05:20] <Zaggynl> I'm trying to compile alsa, but lots of my dapper dependencies are way too old <:
[05:20] <Judicata> Kazero: sorry. so, what happens on glxinfo?
[05:21] <Kazero> Judicata: Ill check
[05:21] <Kazero> Judicata: A whole bunch of things happen
[05:21] <pike_> Enverex: take a look in the .mozilla directory bookmarks.html and the other files you should be able to transfer to new profile directory under .mozilla
[05:21] <eviljames> hello, my ubuntu system is chosing the wrong graphics module at the kernel level.
[05:21] <Judicata> Kazero: lol, hold on.
[05:21] <eviljames> Where do I change said setting?
[05:21] <gaona> hello boys
[05:21] <gaona> i got a question
[05:22] <eviljames> gaona: always just ask, never ask to ask :)
[05:22] <HymnToLife> gaona, just ask, we'll answer if we can :)
[05:22] <Enverex> pike_, I see 3 profiles under the firefox folder in .mozilla but only ONE of them shows up with the profile selector...
[05:22] <gaona> i'd like to change the ip of my wifi router under linux... how can i do that?
[05:22] <andi5> Enverex: then take a look at the profiles.ini
[05:23] <ctkroeker> I cant login anymore with my default account. I tried deleting a bunch of the default gnome hidden files but than makes no diff. what do I do!?
[05:23] <gaona> cuz i'd like to have an usa dns to access episodes on abc.com
[05:23] <Judicata> Kazero: alright, nevermind with that for the moment. So did you install fglrx-control, and xorg-driver-fglrx?
[05:23] <Kazero> Judicata: It does say "Screen 0, Display 0, direct rendering: no"
[05:23] <LjL> gaona: uhm, that concerns the router i think, not linux... you should probably go to your router's configuration utility and set it there
[05:23] <pike_> Enverex: yeah you can add profiles i think but im not sure. id just maybe transfer to current profile dir
[05:23] <gaona> is it possible?
[05:23] <Kazero> Judicata: I think so, ill check synaptic
[05:23] <Judicata> Kazero: ok, that's fine.
[05:23] <gaona> LjL, yep i already went
[05:23] <LjL> gaona, you can set a DNS in linux regardless of your router
[05:23] <gaona> but i can't find anything
[05:23] <gaona> isn't it possible to "hide" my ip
[05:24] <LjL> gaona: that's probably because the IP is fixed, i suppose.
[05:24] <gaona> or just fake it
[05:24] <LjL> "hide" your IP?
[05:24] <andi5> ctkroeker: what does "can't login" mean? ...
[05:24] <LjL> gaona: you can spoof your IP, but then you won't get any replies
[05:24] <Kazero> Judicata: Nope, they were installed yesterday but arent today. Ill install them.
[05:24] <jmblack> Im considering buying a USB --> Serial adapter, can someone point me toward documentation on getting it to load the appropriate drivers? google made it seem as though I was going to need a kernel recompile
[05:24] <tbaho> holaaaaaaaaaa
[05:24] <gaona> suppose i have tvcablenet.be dns...  and i'd like to change it as fbi.org
[05:24] <andi5> jmblack: you are going to plug the serial adapter into your computer, right?
[05:25] <SiLOX> I cant start X after Ive installed latest Nvidia driver :/ i get "no screen found" and "no devices detected"
[05:25] <jmblack> yes
[05:25] <ctkroeker> Well when it comes to  the login screen and I enter the details and hit enter, it just gives me a blank brown screen with the mouse cursor
[05:25] <gaona> i won't get any replies what do u mean exactly?
[05:25] <Judicata> Kazero: Ok, do that and then change the "ati" to "fglrx" and you might need to add a line under the driver scetion.
[05:25] <jmblack> no serial ports, I wanna make 1 serial port
[05:25] <Pici> gaona : sounds like you need a proxy server
[05:25] <gaona> yep
[05:25] <gaona> but that is not working
[05:25] <Kazero> Judicata: You mean the "vesa" There isnt an ati in there last I checked
[05:26] <Judicata> Kazero: yeah, that's what i mean.
[05:26] <ctkroeker> this has happend befor, but I could always fix it by deleting the gnome config files in the users folder
[05:26] <andi5> ctkroeker: can you choose the "failsafe" session? (maybe the name is a bit different from "failsafe", you need to check that)
[05:26] <gaona> Pici, cuz when i put a proxy... it's on the ip of MY computer, and not on the ip of the router... :/
[05:26] <Pici> gaona : there isnt any other way of doing it, besides physically moving to the US
[05:26] <ctkroeker> tries that, same thing
[05:26] <Enverex> pike_, andi5 It appears to be pointing to the right profile, but... the bookmarks thing has been renamed to bookmarks-1.html for some weird reason
[05:26] <Pici> gaona : look on google for a public US proxy
[05:26] <andi5> ctkroeker: you should never delete files without backing them up, if you do not know for sure how to either resurrect, recreate them or that they are irrelevant
[05:27] <jmblack> andi5: yes, the usb to serial adapter will be plugged into a usb port on the computer
[05:27] <Judicata> Kazero: also, do you have xserver-xorg-video-ati installed? If not, that's why switching to "ati" didn't work.
[05:27] <gaona> Pici,  lol it's not in my plans yet :)   but how can i put a proxy, BEHIND my router, and not BETWEEN my pc and the router...?
[05:27] <andi5> jmblack: hm... no idea then, sorry
[05:27] <ctkroeker> well I did mv .gnome2 gnome2_bckp
[05:27] <x-r00t-x> hello. how do i play *.mpe file? the tetom said (There is no plugin to handle this movie.)
[05:28] <Kazero> Judicata: Should I install that too?
[05:28] <jmblack> andi5: does anyone make a serial to usb adapter :P I would think that the way Im using it would be most common, lol
[05:28] <ctkroeker> but to all the gnome and metacity related ones, it just makes new ones when I try to login after that and always end up with that blank screen
[05:28] <B3N> hey judicata, I added this line to the end of the fstab "/dev/sdb2	/media/hd02	vfat	defaults,unmask=000	0	0" but what happened is that it didn't mount
[05:28] <Kazero> Judicata: I changed vesa to fglrx and the package is installed. Restart?
[05:28] <andi5> jmblack: probably :) i just was sure that you do not need a driver for serial ports ;-)
[05:28] <Judicata> Kazero: it won't hurt - this way, if the fglrx driver doesn't work, you can switch to the ati pretty easily without a gui.
[05:28] <Judicata> Kazero: two packages.
[05:29] <Enverex> pike_, andi5 Ah, no, that appears to be an old bookmark list :(
[05:29] <gaona> Pici, still there?
[05:29] <Judicata> B3N: what happens when you "sudo mount -a" ?
[05:29] <Kazero> Judicata: Its already installed :S
[05:29] <Judicata> Kazero: the xorg-driver-fglrx package, and the fglrx-control package.
[05:29] <Kazero> Judicata: Those are now installed, yes. Ill reset to see if it works
[05:29] <Pici> gaona : Installing a proxy anywhere on your nextwork isnt going to help you.  You need to find a proxy server thats located in one of the countries that can access the page
[05:30] <Judicata> Kazero: ok, good luck.
[05:30] <B3N> says "special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/12F84121D9E1EE91 does not exist"
[05:30] <B3N> and bad fs type and so on
[05:30] <Judicata> B3N: is it plugged in and turned on?
[05:30] <B3N> yes
[05:30] <B3N> it's an internal hd
[05:30] <Judicata> B3N: did you reboot after editing the fstab?
[05:30] <B3N> yes
[05:31] <mikejanss> hmm
[05:31] <mikejanss> after installing ubuntu
[05:31] <Judicata> B3N: does it show up when you type "df -h"?
[05:31] <B3N> if i change it back without the unmask=000 it will mount
[05:31] <mikejanss> it makes me wonder why my computer worked so much in windows
[05:31] <mikejanss> = X
[05:31] <mikejanss> the activity light was constantly on
[05:31] <B3N> well doesn't show the hd
[05:31] <Judicata> B3N: can you post your fstab in pastebin?
[05:32] <Judicata> B3N: that's supposed to be "umask"
[05:32] <B3N> sorry pastebin ?
[05:32] <The_Alexander> hello. I need Your help. I want to change key mapping on my Kubuntu EE - I need to change symbols under some keys. But not whole language, only SOME keys - how to do it?
[05:32] <B3N> oops :D
[05:32] <Judicata> B3N: i may have mis-typed it for you, I'm not sure. But change it to "umask" and see if that works.
[05:32] <B3N> okay thanks :)
[05:33] <The_Alexander> can You help me?
[05:33] <andrew_> Judicata: It booted, thats good :)
[05:33] <noodles12> i've installed cups-pdf but it doesnt not show up under available printers. how would i rectify the problem?
[05:33] <Judicata> andrew_: formerly kazero?
[05:33] <andrew_> Judicata: Eer, whats with my nick... this is Kazero
[05:33] <camerong> hey how do i disable mesa so my fglrx drivers will apply to my monitor?
[05:33] <Judicata> Kazero: ok, it booted. but did X load?
[05:33] <Kazero> Judicata: Thats better. How can I make sure its installed properly?
[05:33] <vleon> i am so angry
[05:33] <gaona> Pici,  i think i won't find that easily... i'm pretty anonymous on irc and don't know lot of people who could help me in that task!  but i think i got and idea. i know that in the configuration tool of my router (a DI-524) there is a field for scripts. when u put a script in it, it is applied directly on the proxy, therefore on the "gate" to the internet. if i'd put a "proxy script" maybe it would work... but do u know how i could write mys
[05:33] <gaona> elf such script or if u know some website about the subject (i already tried to search without much success)
[05:34] <Kazero> Judicata: Everything loaded fine.
[05:34] <Judicata> Kazero: fantastic.  type "glxgears --printfps" and see what you get.
[05:35] <Kazero> Judicata: Gears
[05:35] <Kazero> Turning gears
[05:35] <vleon> does someone here use a wireless riouter, preferably linksys wrt54g ver5 and connects to the internet trough adsl?
[05:35] <EnsignRedshirt> I just updated my old laptop to 6.06.  How does it decide which disks get desktop icons?
[05:35] <Judicata> Kazero: well, right :). what fps are you getting? (they'll print every 5 sconds in the console)
[05:36] <EnsignRedshirt> It seems strange that /boot has a desktop icon.
[05:36] <B3N> Judicata: worked perfectly thanks :)
[05:36] <Kazero> Judicata: It didnt read off fps...
[05:36] <Judicata> B3N: great!
[05:36] <Judicata> Kazero: umm, ok. then type "fglrxinfo"
[05:37] <Judicata> Kazero: read out the "Vendor String"
[05:37] <racedo> Hi, I have a Dell axim X51 pocket pc can anyone helpme to sync it to evolution? does linux support it?
[05:37] <Kazero> Judicata: ATi Technologies Inc 2.0.6011
[05:37] <Judicata> Kazero: then the fglrx driver is installed properly.
[05:38] <Kazero> Judicata: Sweet, now if beryl worked :P
[05:38] <Judicata> Kazero: there's a pretty good fglrx+XGl+beryl howto that got me up and running.
[05:39] <oFFbeAt> beryl is so darn cool
[05:39] <XVampireX> It is
[05:39] <Shane-S> Hi I just want to check, we have a mail server (exchange), but its outsources so we can't relay easily. So I have a lamp server and just want php to be able to send mail from the Ubuntu system, so is all I need postfix?
[05:39] <Judicata> Kazero: if you start having performance issues try adding  "Option		"XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"" under the section for your ATI card in the xorg.conf
[05:39] <icio> when you minimize windows black boxes animate the transition, is there a way to stop that ?
[05:40] <Valde> hi anyone tell me how to get connected to my second hard drive for ubuntu it has windows files and
[05:40] <Valde> music i want to keep
[05:40] <gaona> Pici, u there?
[05:40] <n2diy> ! lan
[05:40] <Ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[05:40] <Kazero> Judicata: Nope. no performance issues
[05:41] <n2diy> Can anybody point me to a lan howto?
[05:41] <Kazero> Judicata: Thanks for your help :)
[05:41] <Judicata> Kazero: ok, check out http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL for beryl.
[05:41] <Shane-S> if postfix is all I need for php to send mail will this guide work? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[05:41] <frogzoo> n2diy: try tldp.org
[05:41] <Shane-S> im using 6.10 server
[05:41] <oFFbeAt> is there anything else to add for eye candy?? :P
[05:42] <frogzoo> oFFbeAt: beryl, but leave it a couple of days
[05:42] <frogzoo> oFFbeAt: see you're already there - now change the animations
[05:43] <oidia> im using the 2.6.17-10-server kernel but is it posile to change to the -generic?
[05:43] <steel_lady> ok, I have problems with manual partitioning by ubuntu CD, how to format (errase data) manually from one of partitions?
[05:43] <Bottazzo> Hi guys, where can i put this line /opt/lampp/lampp start .. for when the SO starts.. automatically starts the lampp
[05:43] <lamego> oidia, just install it using apt
[05:44] <diminthedam> hey folks, my gnome-network-manger on edgy does not see my wifi card anymore. suggestions?
[05:44] <oidia> leonel: and, then?
[05:44] <Judicata> diminthedam: can you go to system - administration - networking?
[05:44] <oidia> leonel: ive tryed it, but i ended up with a destroid encrypted system without any bootoptions :S
[05:44] <junk1> hi all
[05:45] <leonel> oidia:  ????
[05:45] <junk1> ubuntu 6.0.6 install freezez at 81% i tryd it 2 times any ideas?
[05:45] <oidia> leonel: how do i make it use the new one, instead of the server?
[05:45] <Judicata> junk1: bad HDD?
[05:46] <diminthedam> judicata: sure
[05:46] <Judicata> diminthedam: is your card there?
[05:46] <leonel> oidia:  I don't know what are you talking
[05:46] <Judicata> junk1: could also be a bad CD.
[05:46] <Kazero> Judicata: Hum, when I try an sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl, I get package not found
[05:46] <diminthedam> judicata: it is there, yet it is unconfiured. it is usually so, because i use wireless from gnome-net-manager
[05:46] <junk1> i dont think so
[05:47] <Kazero> Judicata: Should I add another repository, or will that overwrite my SVN files?
[05:47] <junk1> ive tryd it on the tower an it installed ok
[05:47] <junk1> i need it on hte laptop
[05:47] <Judicata> Kazero: you can add the repo., check out the link I gave you earlier.
[05:47] <oidia> leonel: i nead to change my 2.6.17-10-server to 2.6.17-10-generic, how do i make that change sucessfuly?
[05:47] <break_> help!!! i'm getting S.M.A.R.T errors!!
[05:48] <Judicata> junk1: I'd check the HDD for errors, other than that I'm lost on that one. maybe someone else has an anwer.
[05:48] <Kazero> Judicata: Yeah, it has a list of repos. Im using the 4th one for the SVN, if I add another, will it overwite the already installed SVN files when I do apt-get update?
[05:48] <camerong> can anyone help me disable my MESA graphics drivers so i can use the FGLRX ones?
[05:48] <B3N> tnn vois menn hyvlle kiinalaiselle
[05:48] <B3N> shit... wrong chat :)(
[05:48] <Juhaz> teepp se
[05:48] <frogzoo> break_: on boot up, or constantly? are there timeouts reported in /var/log/messages ???
[05:49] <break_> i'm on windows right now :x
[05:49] <junk1> ok
[05:49] <Judicata> Kazero: i wouldn't use the dev version of beryl - its unstable enough as it is.
[05:49] <break_> its my windows/storage drive thats erroring
[05:49] <Judicata> diminthedam: what is it? eth0 eth1?
[05:49] <leonel> ligeron
[05:49] <frogzoo> break_: best to back it up
[05:50] <diminthedam> judicatate: ath0
[05:50] <junk1> the cd says its fine an so does the hd
[05:50] <steel_lady> ok, is there anybody here who really knows something or only irrespopnsable kids that destroyed me what I had?
[05:50] <break_> i dont have any place to back it up to
[05:50] <break_> :(
[05:50] <ghatak> hi how do i initiate an update check from command prompt ?
[05:50] <ghatak> !update
[05:50] <break_> ~200gb of crap
[05:50] <ubotwo> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:51] <junk1> my boss has his copy were tryn that
[05:51] <eXistenZ> How can I add some folder to the $PATH variable?
[05:51] <devilsadvocate> ghatak, sudo apt-get update
[05:51] <diminthedam> judicata: thing is i am on wireless now :) only through command line. would luv to get gnome-net-manager to work again, cos its much simpler with wep apa, etc
[05:51] <break_> i thought it was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:51] <computermc> how do I create a link on my desktop that will run a terminal-command when I double click it?
[05:51] <EnsignRedshirt> eXistenZ: Add this to .bashrc: export PATH=$PATH:<new directory>
[05:51] <ghatak> devilsadvocate: i thought that only updates packages avialable.
[05:51] <jrib> computermc: create a shell script
[05:51] <Judicata> diminthedam: and you're saying you usually use the network icon in the panel, and if you right click on it, go to properties, and type "ath0" what happens?
[05:52] <EnsignRedshirt> eXistenZ: For example: export PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[05:52] <devilsadvocate> ghatak, it gets the new list of packages availale on the repo
[05:52] <computermc> jrib: how do
[05:52] <Enselic``> I have a new wireless mouse, but I can't set sensitvity for it, where can I do this?
[05:52] <computermc> I do that
[05:52] <Kazero> Judicata: Brb, gotta reset
[05:52] <devilsadvocate> ghatak, what so you want to do?
[05:52] <Judicata> Kazero: gl
[05:52] <EnsignRedshirt> eXistenZ: or maybe: export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
[05:52] <ghatak> I do not use gnome anymore, normally when i used to give a small icon showing what updates are available and i should update those packages
[05:52] <ghatak> that functionality
[05:53] <EnsignRedshirt> eXistenZ: That would add the bin directory in your home directory to you path.
[05:53] <EnsignRedshirt> *your
[05:53] <leonel> oidia:  sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[05:53] <jrib> computermc: the first line is:  #!/bin/sh      and the second line is your command
[05:53] <devilsadvocate> ghatak, sudo apt-get update sort of refreshes the file list, and sudo apt-get upgrade installs the nes packages
[05:54] <devilsadvocate> ghatak, if you want the gui, i think typing synaptic on a console should do it
[05:54] <n2diy> ! ipx
[05:54] <ubotwo> ipx - utilities to configure the kernel ipx interface - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[05:54] <FreeNet> Hi people need help on setting up a intranet network... the full question (it's not normal LAN that I meant) is posted at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2035605#post2035605
[05:54] <Casanova> how do i get Sun JRE 6 for edgy?
[05:55] <ghatak> devilsadvocate: not really, command will do for me :)
[05:55] <Casanova> does anyone have Sun JRE 6 running on ubuntu
[05:55] <Casanova> ?
[05:55] <jrib> computermc: you could also create a "custom application launcher"
[05:55] <junk1> jrib how?
[05:56] <devilsadvocate> ghatak, you want to see the list of upgradable packages?
[05:56] <jrib> junk1: how what?
[05:56] <computermc> jrib: I got a shell script to work, how would I make the custom application launcher?
[05:56] <junk1> how do you do  lol
[05:56] <jrib> junk1: do what?
[05:56] <junk1> sorry i had too
[05:56] <Judicata> steel_lady: is everything still not working?
[05:56] <junk1> lol
[05:57] <jrib> computermc: right click on the desktop, you should be able to create a launcher
[05:57] <steel_lady> Judicata, this guy said he is going to help and then when everything crushed he ran away
[05:57] <eXistenZ> How can I keep a program running even after I close the terminal from which I run?
[05:57] <igge> msg nickserv identify igge
[05:57] <andrew_> Judicata: Sweet deal, beryl is up and running  :)
[05:57] <oFF-beAt> lol, i ticked "show desktop" in beryl and pc freezes
[05:57] <steel_lady> Judicata I know all that I have to do, I know what is the problem I just need somebody to tell me terminal commands for that
[05:57] <Judicata> steel_lady: the problem is, I need to leave soon for a few minutes. But, let me try to get you on your way.
[05:57] <Lynoure> eXistenZ: screen is one way.  See  man screen
[05:57] <LjL> eXistenZ: nohup programname might to the trick i suppose. or use screen
[05:58] <andrew_> Judicata: And works BETTER than on my PC
[05:58] <Judicata> andrew_: Great - you may need to tinker to get it to run faster. Or not.
[05:58] <oFF-beAt> rebooted a couple of times n freezes at the load of beryl... now i removed it
[05:58] <Judicata> steel_lady: eek, why?
[05:58] <mein_traumland> http://mibssam.free.fr/
[05:58] <jrib> eXistenZ: a couple of choices:  use screen, use nohup, disown the program before closing your shell
[05:58] <Pici> eXistenZ : you could also do nohup <command> & , that'll keep it from quitting when you close the terminal
[05:58] <Judicata> steel_lady: are you locked out of your gui?
[05:58] <steel_lady> Judicata: I suppose the problem is that I have some 10M of data on ex fat32
[05:58] <eXistenZ> LjL, How does a program run when launched from nautilus?
[05:58] <andrew_> Judicata: Its running full speed
[05:59] <steel_lady> Judicata what is gui?
[05:59] <igge> hello
[05:59] <Judicata> steel_lady: never mind for now. what do you mean "on ex fat32" ?
[05:59] <Maximilian1st> steel_lady, Graphical user interface
[05:59] <steel_lady> Judicata, let me explain the situation and we will be much more efficient
[05:59] <LjL> eXistenZ: i really have no idea, i use KDE (but then i don't know how KDE does it either). i think they get disowned, though, since i really don't believe shutting down nautilus or konqueror or whatever brings everything down
[05:59] <igge> anyone who knows if the adobe flash player works on intel based macs?
[06:00] <Judicata> steel_lady: ok, I'll try to stick around long enough to help (I could use someone else to help on this, b/c I may have to go soon)
[06:00] <jrib> igge: I would guess it does, but why not just try?
[06:00] <steel_lady> Judicata, I have laptop of my boss that had win that I have to conserve fat32 partition and red hat. Now I have only win as 1st partition left and errased the rest intending to make partition for linux system, other for swap, other for home and fat32 to share between operative systems
[06:01] <Kazero> Noob Question: How do you install from deb files?
[06:01] <jrib> !deb | Kazero
[06:01] <ubotwo> Kazero: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[06:01] <LjL> Ubotu, tell kazero about software | kazero, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:01] <igge> jrib: because I don't have one.. but thinking of buying...
[06:01] <Judicata> steel_lady: sounds good so far.
[06:01] <jrib> igge: I see
[06:01] <Kazero> Thanks guys
[06:01] <steel_lady> Judicata, the problem is when i assign actions in that ubuntu partitioner it crushes and i suppose the reason is that he doesn't want to run over some 10MB of data that was there
[06:02] <igge> jrib: but you think it works? what do you base that on?
[06:02] <Judicata> steel_lady: you mean "crashes"? Ok.
[06:02] <steel_lady> Judicata, the thing that I believe I have to do now is to format manually that big partition to remove that data and then repartition it with this program
[06:02] <Judicata> steel_lady: well, there is no partition right? Its just a big group of unallocatd drive space, right?
[06:03] <steel_lady> Judicata, when I assign actions it puts some strange error window that is empty and then puts warning sign beside that space and does not make partitions
[06:03] <ahoj> Hi guys. Say, is there any way to run a shell comand after a certain amount of minutes/seconds? Some sort of timer command?
[06:04] <steel_lady> Judicata, I have windows on the first partition that I can not touch. the rest is supposably space but I think it didn't format it
[06:04] <jrib> ahoj: at
[06:04] <Jowi> ahoj, you can use cron(tab)
[06:04] <jrib> ahoj: or you could use "sleep", but at is what you want
[06:04] <Judicata> steel_lady: right, so in the partition editor on the live cd, does it show "unallocated" space?
[06:04] <mein_traumland> http://mibssam.free.fr/
[06:04] <steel_lady> Yes Judicata, when I try to format that space and appy changes it crushes
[06:05] <steel_lady> apply
[06:05] <ahoj> Jowi: Crontab is a bit to complicated...I just want to punch in a line and get an alert in 10 minutes...or things like that. I will just read the man page for at
[06:05] <ahoj> thanks so far!
[06:05] <Judicata> steel_lady: so you click on the unallocated space, and press the "new" button, and then it crashes?
[06:05] <Jowi> ahoj, then sleep will do just fine as jrib suggested
[06:05] <jrib> igge: first hit on google for intel mac linux flash: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/get_your_intel.cfm
[06:05] <ahoj> Jowi, at seems to do just the job
[06:06] <jrib> ahoj: at now+10min,  then enter your command, then press ctrl-d
[06:06] <steel_lady> no Judicata I click on new and I prepare all the actions to do that and whe it actually needs to apply it, to perform it at the end it refuses
[06:06] <ahoj> Yeah, I just googled it
[06:06] <facugaich> Hi, in my Xorg.conf I have "OpenGLOverlay" "off", using flgrx, should I enable it?
[06:06] <Judicata> steel_lady: have you tried rebooting?
[06:07] <steel_lady> Judicata, I assign main partition swap and home and it does not want. Yes I tried
[06:07] <ahoj> Thanks, you two, now I can use my laptop as an alarm clock :D
[06:07] <junk1> im tryn to install ubuntu6.0.6 if it works it will work with out the cd rite? an if it does how do i put in linspirefive-0 also?
[06:07] <igge> jrib: yeah... but it doesn't say anythin about it does it?
[06:07] <steel_lady> Judicata, is there some way to format unallocated space manually?
[06:07] <Judicata> steel_lady: ok, and which partition are you assigning ot "/" and "home" and "swap"?
[06:07] <pyrohotdog> How can I use alt+tab window switching in Blackbox?
[06:07] <cyberco1> hello ppls
[06:08] <jrib> igge: "The public beta site is up for the beta version of Flash Player 9 (9.0.18.0) for Intel-based Macintosh."
[06:08] <Judicata> steel_lady: yes, there is but I'm a bit rusty on command-line partitioning, and if it won't do it from there, it will probably crash on the command line as well.
[06:08] <steel_lady> Judicata, I make one ext partition for root, extended partition where I put one logical for swap and other for home and at the end fat32 I format separately
[06:08] <Judicata> steel_lady: lets take this one step at a time. You're on the live cd right?
[06:08] <Gasten> pyrohotdog: I haven't used blackbox, but I don't think you can.
[06:08] <igge> jrib: but that's not linux
[06:08] <steel_lady> Judicada yes I have
[06:08] <Gasten> pyrohotdog: Blackbox is minimalistic.
[06:08] <Judicata> steel_lady: ok, close all the windows.
[06:09] <igge> jrib: I'm running linux on an intel based mac... not mac os on an intel based mac
[06:09] <mikejanssen> hmm
[06:09] <mikejanssen> = )
[06:09] <steel_lady> Judicata you can keep going describing what should I do
[06:09] <ahoj> jrib, any command to make the shell make a sound? does "beep" work?
[06:09] <Judicata> steel_lady: close everything, and go to System -> Administration -> GNOME Partition Editor
[06:09] <mikejanssen> quick question..i just installed Kubuntu...tried it..didnt like it..how do i completely remove it?
[06:09] <Gasten> ahoj: beep does work.
[06:10] <Lynoure> steel_lady, Judicata: (just a thought) and the trouble is not trying to partition a mounted disk?
[06:10] <ahoj> Thank you
[06:10] <Gasten> ahoj: You might have to aptitude the package, but you can.
[06:10] <steel_lady> Lynoure it can be!!!
[06:10] <junk1> atoponce?
[06:10] <Judicata> Lynoure: good question, but since shes on the live cd I assume she hasn't mounted the drives.
[06:10] <ahoj> ah, I see
[06:10] <steel_lady> Ok Judicata what to do?
[06:10] <Lynoure> Judicata: oh, ok, I had not followed well :)
[06:10] <Judicata> steel_lady: is there a lock symbol next to any of the partitions?
[06:10] <sivik> what repo do i need to add the sources.list file, not from the program, to get restricted format to play wma's
[06:10] <steel_lady> lock? no
[06:11] <sivik> i have already added multiverse to the sources.list but it doesn't see to appear
[06:11] <sivik> seem*
[06:11] <Judicata> steel_lady: ok, what partitions do you see, and what are their fileysystems? (ex: /dev/hda1 vfat)
[06:11] <steel_lady> Judicata I just have ntfs on hda1 an the rest unallocated
[06:11] <Judicata> steel_lady: ok, click on the unallocated. and click new.
[06:12] <steel_lady> Judicata keep on
[06:12] <gh0st> hello, how can i make DEB package from a source code?
[06:12] <frederific> is anyone else's FF running dog slow, or is it just mine?
[06:12] <Demonswarm> any idea how i can found out the network ip of my server? it changed when i replaced my router today... and it has no monitor
[06:12] <Gasten> mikejanssen: sudo rm -rf / (don't do it!!)
[06:12] <Judicata> steel_lady: create your first partition (the one you want to use for / - the main linux partition) and select the "ext3" filesystem.
[06:12] <frederific> Demonswarm: do you have ssh installed?
[06:12] <steel_lady> Judicata I need: 2) root 3) swap 4) home 5) fat32
[06:12] <Jowi> gh0st, checkinstall will both make a package and install it for you. that is the easy way
[06:12] <Will> hey] 
[06:12] <Jowi> !checkinstall
[06:12] <ubotwo> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[06:12] <steel_lady> Ok Judicata keep on
[06:13] <Demonswarm> frederific: not as far as i know, just webserver, irc, teamspeak server
[06:13] <Judicata> steel_lady: no problem, lets just do one at a time. create the first one, and make sure its the size you want.
[06:13] <steel_lady> Judicata i am puting 8G of ext3 primary ok?
[06:13] <frederific> Demonswarm: ahh, that makes it awkward
[06:13] <gh0st> Jowi: but i need to add some optionsm how could i do this?
[06:13] <kahlil> hello?
[06:14] <Judicata> steel_lady: sounds good, and you still have a lot of unallocated space left, right?
[06:14] <Demonswarm> hm il just go and grab my monitor and keyboard than :P
[06:14] <frederific> Demonswarm: yeah, thats the easiest way
[06:14] <steel_lady> Yes Judicata, it will crush at the end
[06:14] <steel_lady> Judicata keep on
[06:14] <frederific> Demonswarm: While they're plugged in, install openssh-server
[06:14] <Judicata> steel_lady: Ok, i'm trying to make sure we narrow down the issue.
[06:15] <Judicata> steel_lady: so you've creatd one partition right? after that, click apply and see if it crashes.
[06:15] <frederific> Demonswarm: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:15] <Jowi> gh0st, you use it instead of "make install". so instead of doing ./configure --optionsgohere && make && sudo make install - ./configure --optionsgohere && make && sudo checkinstall
[06:15] <Demonswarm> frederific: i can do that later too :D just need to fix my webserver quickly atm
[06:15] <frederific> Demonswarm: makes sense
[06:15] <gh0st> Jowi: ok, and then i could remove it via synaptic, so it's like a normal deb package?
[06:16] <stoorty> how do i get mp3 support in dapper, i tried downloading gstreamer but its still not working when i double click the mp3 file, although it will play the file when i hover over the file
[06:16] <steel_lady> Judicata, I have the new partition and it says it has 254MB used already?!
[06:16] <junk1> i luv getting told off for asking for help screw it i dont need this any more
[06:16] <jrib> igge: yeah you're right about the page.  I said "I guess it works" before because intel mac's use the i386 install disk anyway right?
[06:16] <Jowi> gh0st, that's the idea :)
[06:16] <frederific> demonswarm: would just make sense to do it while you have a screen and keyboard connected
[06:16] <Judicata> steel_lady: that's fine. but it created the partition?
[06:16] <steel_lady> Judicata, to my surprise yes
[06:16] <igge> jrib: ok
[06:16] <gh0st> Jowi: well thanks, nice
[06:16] <steel_lady> Judicata, keep on
[06:17] <Judicata> steel_lady: try creating the other partitions one at a time. (make the swap partition logical)
[06:17] <jrib> igge: I'm asking, I don't actually know.   Feel free to ask your question again, I thought you already owned the machine
[06:17] <Judicata> steel_lady: create one partition, and then click apply - for each one.
[06:17] <Demonswarm> wtf is this shit monitor cable doesnt plug in :S
[06:17] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Demonswarm
[06:17] <ubotwo> Demonswarm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:17] <LinTux> how can i identifi the chipset in my wifi card
[06:18] <Demonswarm> srry
[06:18] <igge> jrib: ok...
[06:18] <kahlil> hi there
[06:18] <kahlil> i'm having trouble with Kubuntu
[06:18] <ahoj> Gasten, I apt-get beep now...but when I type "beep" in the console, I don't hear a thing...any ideas?
[06:18] <Lynoure> LinTux: Try  sudo lshw
[06:18] <kahlil> i install everything
[06:18] <Demonswarm> but monitor cable doesnt fit or something :S
[06:18] <kahlil> everything seems fine
[06:18] <steel_lady> Judicata, now I went to option new over unallocated space, should I put swap as primary or extended? (the logical option is grayed out, I think I should put it extended and then logical over it)
[06:18] <kahlil> Konqueror won't start
[06:18] <kahlil> it crashes
[06:18] <Gasten> ahoj: man beep?
[06:18] <Lynoure> LinTux: that should give you a long list of all hardware
[06:18] <frederific> demonswarm: is it the right way up? :P
[06:18] <kahlil> Kontact segfaults
[06:18] <Jowi> igge, it works fine. I'm running ubuntu with AIGLX, dapper and flash with no problem (intel mac mini core duo 512MB RAM)
[06:18] <ahoj> Gasten, yeah, done so
[06:18] <kahlil> this happens ont he live CD as well
[06:18] <Gasten> ahoj: Never used bep, just noted that it is there.
[06:18] <lebowski> man! I come here, and I gotta go, I hate school!
[06:18] <ahoj> I see. Okay, I consult the man page some more
[06:18] <kahlil> installing on an IBM Thinkpad X60
[06:18] <Gasten> ahoj: ok...
[06:18] <ahoj> Thanks!
[06:18] <Judicata> steel_lady: put swap as extended. don't worry about the logical thing for now.
[06:19] <camerong> can anyone help me.. i cant create files in the /var/www directory. and i need to!
[06:19] <Demonswarm> frederific: jeh tried both ways :S
[06:19] <LinTux>  Lynoure: cheers m8
[06:19] <igge> jowi: alright, great stuff.. thanks alot
[06:19] <Gasten> ahoj: is it supposed to go throuh your speakers or the pc-speakers?
[06:19] <lebowski> camerong, sudo su
[06:19] <Gasten> ahoj: in the later case you have to have one :) maybe configuring bios?
[06:19] <steel_lady> Judicata, created, I will continue, I suppose I should create one more extended for home?
[06:19] <Demonswarm> il go and steal my brothers monitor
[06:19] <Demonswarm> brb
[06:20] <Gasten> ahoj: no, I'm just tlking rubbish...
[06:20] <frederific> demonswarm: thats the spirit :)
[06:20] <Gasten> ahoj:  I have no idea.
[06:20] <camerong> lebowski: what does that do?
[06:20] <jrib> igge: maybe not, since this looks more complicated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[06:20] <Judicata> steel_lady: if you want, some people just have one big partition for linux, and include home in that - others have a separate partition for home. its up to you.
[06:20] <mnoir> camerong: it may be useful to add yourself to the group that owns /var/www.  that is what i do on my dev server
[06:20] <Gasten> ahoj: the command does work, right? there is just alack of sound?
[06:20] <mnoir> camerong: should be www-data
[06:20] <steel_lady> Judicata I have to make separate partition, the bosses order
[06:21] <Judicata> steel_lady: ok, no problem.
[06:21] <kahlil> can anyone help me with my oddball problem?
[06:21] <ahoj> Gasten: Yes
[06:21] <steel_lady> Judicata, how can i create it? The only option offered is to make another primary now
[06:21] <Jowi> igge, I wrote up a small tutorial for myself at burninghands.eu if you're interested
[06:21] <ahoj> But I'm not entirely sure my laptop *has* a pc-speaker....
[06:21] <Judicata> steel_lady: hold on.
[06:21] <ahoj> Could this be a possibility or am I just stupid?
[06:21] <igge> jowi: ah alright.. :) yeah please send a link
[06:21] <camerong> mnoir: how do i tell what group that is
[06:21] <Gasten> ahoj: no idea.
[06:21] <ahoj> kk
[06:21] <ahoj> Not *that* important
[06:22] <ahoj> Thank you
[06:22] <Jowi> igge, burninghands.eu select the page from the articles menu
[06:22] <Gasten> ahoj: try looking at the terminl to figure out weather beeping i on or off.
[06:22] <mnoir> camerong: ls -la in the directory and look for the owner of .  (sgl dot)
[06:22] <Judicata> steel_lady: you can't create an extended partition?
[06:22] <Gasten> ahoj: (tested beep - doesn't work onmy end either)
[06:22] <ahoj> Gasten: I don't get it...look at the terminal?
[06:22] <Gasten> ahoj: your command-line program.
[06:22] <igge> jowi: ok found it... but there is nothing about the flash player?
[06:22] <mnoir> camerong: using root everytime you're want to add a file is not only wrong, it is also a PITA
[06:23] <steel_lady> judicata, it does not let me to create another extended partition
[06:23] <Gasten> ahoj: Konsol, shell, Terminal?
[06:23] <ahoj> Yes, I know :D I just couldn't figure out how to tell if beep works
[06:23] <Jowi> igge, there's nothing to add about it. it works just out of the box
[06:23] <Judicata> steel_lady: oh, well create a logical partition under the extended partition then.
[06:23] <camerong> mnoir: . and .. are root and all files are cameron
[06:23] <igge> jowi: alright... that's really good
[06:23] <Gasten> ahoj: look at preferences.
[06:23] <Jowi> igge, I have the core duo version (x86) and not the core 2 duo one (64bit)
[06:24] <igge> jowi: btw.. at the moment I have a PPC based one.. would there be _any_ way you think of getting it to work there?
[06:24] <mnoir> camerong: root?? that is not recommended for apache files/dirs - did you change it from install standard??
[06:24] <ahoj> Yeah, seems to be turned on
[06:24] <steel_lady> judicata, then I need to remove previous small extended partition I made for swap, I need to make the big one of the size of swap+home and then create 2 logical partitions for swap and home over it?
[06:24] <ahoj> Anyways, I've got to go now...but thanks a lot for your help!
[06:25] <Jowi> !ppc
[06:25] <ubotwo> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[06:25] <Florentina17> hellow
[06:25] <Jowi> igge, looks positive according to ubotu
[06:25] <camerong> mnoir: no not at all
[06:25] <Judicata> steel_lady: You can have the extended partition as "home" and then create one logical partition for "swap"
[06:26] <Gasten> ahoj: mine too (I would appriciate if you said Gasten when you are talking to me, so I don't have to look att all the text scrolling by)
[06:26] <mnoir> cam - sorry i cannot help - i do not mess with potential unsecure systems that I cannot account for.
[06:26] <igge> jowi: i'm running linux on it now and it works fine... but I was thinking about the flash player
[06:26] <DrZeus_> hi all.  Question: now that I upgraded to Edgy, my swap partition is gone!  Its not been recognized, doesnt even get shown in mount
[06:26] <Jowi> igge, no idea whatsoever
[06:26] <igge> jowi: ok
[06:27] <AmaroK_> @ DrZeus- I've got the same problem, someone can help?
[06:27] <Judicata> Judicata: for now, make sure you apply after each change, if possible.
[06:27] <DrZeus_> AmaroK_: yes, I dont know what happened
[06:27] <camerong> mnoir: how did i add myself and what  group??
[06:27] <steel_lady> Judicata, so I created one extended partition od 14G so it made some 'subpartition' of that with 14G of unallocated space. what should I do on it?
[06:27] <mnoir> camerong: - sorry i cannot help - i do not mess with potential unsecure systems that I cannot account for.
[06:28] <AmaroK_> I have to activate (swapon) swap each time I log in
[06:28] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: Can u?
[06:28] <Judicata> steel_lady: i'm not sure what you mean. You created a 14G partition. And then what?
[06:28] <DrZeus_> AmaroK_: but your partition is shown in fstab?
[06:28] <camerong> mnoir: i installed ubuntu on my computer so i could develop better casuei heard it was better for php development and now i cant even use the damn thing... im the only one using this computer!
[06:29] <camerong> mnoir: and its not public
[06:29] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: y
[06:29] <camerong> mnoir: i just need to be able to make files on my own computer!
[06:29] <DrZeus_> AmaroK_:  meaning, the swap partition is shown in fstab
[06:29] <DrZeus_> cause it is not shown in mine
[06:29] <steel_lady> Judicata, it looks like this: New partition: extended: 14G arrow down -> unallocated 14G
[06:29] <oidia> what is a ARMD-FDD, its a device but what kind?
[06:29] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: okay, not the same problem
[06:30] <AmaroK_> but it seems to be wrong
[06:30] <Judicata> steel_lady: ah, ok. yeah, create one logical partition for home, and apply it, then another for swap.
[06:30] <steel_lady> Judicata ok
[06:30] <DrZeus_> AmaroK_: omG
[06:30] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: It was going wrong after i upgraded to Edgy
[06:31] <bauer78> can someone help we with installing an ATI driver I get through uncompresson and get the following error     : Detected configuration:
[06:31] <bauer78> Architecture: i686 (32-bit)
[06:31] <bauer78> X Server: Unknown X Window
[06:31] <bauer78> cp: cannot stat `x710/usr/X11R6/bin/*': No such file or directory
[06:31] <bauer78> find: install/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: No such file or directory
[06:31] <steel_lady> Judicata I am creating new logical partition for home of type ext3 right?
[06:31] <Judicata> steel_lady: yep.
[06:32] <bibek> anybody has experience with testdisk?
[06:32] <DrZeus_> oh man, what could be?  When It uncovers the booting, it gives a swap loading "failed", but doesnt give more details
[06:32] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: u tried gparted or something like that?
[06:33] <steel_lady> Judicata, I created home. it says it has 350MB used, I created logical swap and applied and it worked
[06:33] <DrZeus_> AmaroK_: if I ran that? no, I just followed the instructions for upgrade
[06:33] <bibek> i lost my ext3 partition
[06:33] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: It was able to activate it, y i get the same Message
[06:33] <Judicata> steel_lady: great, now what else do we need? The fat32 partition?
[06:33] <steel_lady> Judicata, now I am going to create primary fat32 ok?
[06:33] <Ruffles> how would i change my default browser back to firefox through the update-alternatives ?
[06:34] <Judicata> steel_lady: yes.
[06:34] <steel_lady> Judicata, it looks OK, now I am going to start installer to see if it will be accepted
[06:34] <Judicata> steel_lady: Ok, I have to go for a few minutes, but I'll be back. It sounds like this should work. When you're done there, restar the installation process, and just make sure you select the appropriate drives.
[06:34] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: Okay i don't think i can help you, sry
[06:35] <svfusion> x1600 with Ubuntu anyone
[06:35] <svfusion> ?
[06:35] <Judicata> steel_lady: I'll be back in about 10-15 minutes.
[06:35] <steel_lady> Judicata, can you wait a couple more mins?
[06:35] <gh0st> can anyone tell me the command to mass unzip all zip-files in a folder?
[06:36] <svfusion> does anyone know what would cause this http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33879949
[06:36] <igge> jowi: btw... where can I find the installation iso to use for intel based macs?
[06:36] <DrZeus_> AmaroK_: ok, thnx anyway
[06:36] <igge> jowi: is it the same iso as for pcs?
[06:36] <bibek> anyone has experience with testdisk?
[06:36] <svfusion> lol anyone want $10 paypal?
[06:36] <Hoag> Does anyone use Eclipse with WindowBuilder Pro? Having trouble setting up WindowBuilder Pro. I don't know where to direct it for an Eclipse Product.
[06:37] <stoorty> is it possible to resize the swap file while running ubuntu?
[06:37] <svfusion> ATi pisses me off
[06:37] <AmaroK_> DrZeus: np
[06:38] <DrZeus_> I think i will use gparted, for "creating" a swap then
[06:38] <DrZeus_> because in fstab, it says "none swap 0 0"
[06:38] <incorrect> is it possible to set u+ro g+rw all+nothing ?
[06:38] <svfusion> gparted will resize it for you
[06:38] <svfusion> anyone using x1600 in here?
[06:38] <Jowi> igge, just use the one as for normal PCs
[06:38] <igge> jowi: ok wicked... thanka
[06:39] <Demonswarm> christ
[06:39] <Demonswarm> what is the ipconfig on a apache2 ubuntu server? i forgot.. omg
[06:40] <Lynoure> Demonswarm: ipconfig? ifconfig? What do you want to do?
[06:40] <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu and then when I restart the pc. and start then my openoffice gtk bindings are broken! If i then start xfdesktop and kill it again openoffice is fine. byt I have tho had loaded xfdesktop once :-S some that has this to?
[06:40] <mnoir> !elaborate | Demonswarm
[06:40] <ubotwo> Demonswarm: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[06:40] <steel_lady> ok, can somebody respond to one easy question od how to name mount points now?
[06:41] <Ghost> hi
[06:41] <Demonswarm> Lynoure: the network ip of my server
[06:41] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: what do you want to now?
[06:41] <Lynoure> Demonswarm: ifconfig does pretty much same as ipconfig in MS Win, but that has nothing to do with whether you have apache2 or not
[06:42] <Demonswarm> ah jeh
[06:42] <Demonswarm> well i just wanted to know :P i forgot it was ifconfig
[06:42] <Demonswarm> :D ty man
[06:42] <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu and then when I restart the pc. and start then my openoffice gtk bindings are broken! If i then start xfdesktop and kill it again openoffice is fine. byt I have tho had loaded xfdesktop once :-S ?
[06:42] <Lynoure> Demonswarm: you are welcome, miss
[06:42] <oFF-beAt> hey guys.. need some help.. tried changin some effects in beryl n pc freezed.. i removed it.. but if i install it again.. it freezes again..
[06:42] <mnoir> steel_lady: non-system mountpoints are usually in /media or /mnt
[06:43] <eXistenZ> Can I make a shortcut to automatically run ff?
[06:43] <Lynoure> Demonswarm: By the way, there is a nifty command called  apropos  that is helpful in these situations
[06:43] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter, I have all the partitions ready to install, I just want to know how to name ntfs partition with win that was for some reason named /media/hta1 before and how to name fat32 that is shared between systems
[06:43] <steel_lady> mnoir, why should I name win partition media?
[06:44] <mnoir> steel_lady: i said IN media, NAMED media
[06:44] <Lynoure> Demonswarm: try e.g.  apropos network  :)
[06:44] <mnoir> steel_lady: sorry...
[06:44] <voodookin> I need some help running Azureus, I have gone into iptables and opened the tcp/udp ports and opened the ports in firestarter. The nat is ok, but I get an error saying my DHT is firewalled. Any suggestions?
[06:44] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: sudo gedit /etc/fstab and then change the names of the mount points and then go to the folder with the mount points and rename the folder
[06:45] <mnoir> steel_lady: i said IN media, not NAMED media
[06:45] <mnoir> steel_lady: I personnaly prefer the /mnt dir of regularly mounted win partitions
[06:45] <bauer78> anyone get this error message installing ATI driver and have a fix for it?  find: install/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: No such file or directory
[06:45] <mnoir> of=for
[06:45] <NFx> dfhgfh
[06:45] <NFx> gdfg
[06:45] <NFx> sdfg
[06:45] <NFx> dfgdfgdf
[06:45] <NFx> gdf
[06:45] <NFx> gd
[06:45] <NFx> gd
[06:45] <luciaud> hoal
[06:46] <oFF-beAt> where is beryl config file stored?
[06:46] <lmosher> oFF-beAt, it's in ~/.beryl/settings
[06:46] <nemo_work> Say folks. I have DVD play working fine in mplayer with the win32codecs.  but totem keeps complaining about missing codecs.  I thought both of 'em could use the windows stuff?
[06:47] <pike_> voodookin: setup forwarding in your router?
[06:47] <mnoir> steel_lady: my favorite is /mnt/winC or /mnt/hda1 (or whatever the hdd partition is)
[06:47] <lmosher> Does anyone know a console program that can control the mouse and keyboard? Specifically I want the program to hold down two keys while moving the mouse...
[06:47] <voodookin> i dont use a router, its a direct connection
[06:47] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter, I am in fstab, there it says: uniofs / uniofs rw 0 0        tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev o o      /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
[06:48] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter what should I do with it?
[06:49] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: change the name of the mount point to the name that you whant it to have like:
[06:49] <TuxCrafter> UUID=7fd5f925-5042-470c-a393-6154d5f8e70a      /mnt/windows       reiserfs
[06:50] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: that is just a idea do not take it literally
[06:50] <Ruffles> nemo_work, u need the gstreamer plugins
[06:50] <Ruffles> nemo_work, or totem-xine
[06:50] <nemo_work> Ruffles: oh. right. friggen gsreamer
[06:50] <Ruffles> nemo_work, u may try totem-xine
[06:50] <nemo_work> alrighty.
[06:51] <bmidgley> is there a way to *completely* remove the mysql package and all data and start over?
[06:51] <nemo_work> Ruffles: I already disabled totem in firefox, mplayerplug-in kicks its ass in all ways IMO. but wouldn't mind it actually working
[06:51] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter, I do not understand, what are these numbers on front?
[06:51] <Judicata> steel_lady: don't worry about the numbers
[06:51] <Zaggynl> How do I remove a package and ignore dependencies?
[06:51] <nemo_work> Ruffles: say, since you're in a helpful mood. have another issue.  I have a /shared I made for the users on this machine.  Basically like /tmp, only less likely to get cluttered.
[06:51] <Judicata> steel_lady: and before you do anything, make a backup for the fstab file.
[06:51] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[06:51] <bmidgley> mysql server package I mean
[06:51] <Ruffles> nemo_work, u may only install totem-xine
[06:52] <Ruffles> nemo_work, not the totem plugin for firefox
[06:52] <nemo_work> Ruffles: the problem is that if a person creates a text file, then edits it, gedit creates a file~ which is invisible
[06:52] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: the numbers are to identify your harddisk partition
[06:52] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter which of those are win? uniofs or tmpfs?
[06:52] <voodookin> I run the port forwarding test inside azureus and it passes, but the dht is still firewalled
[06:52] <nemo_work> Ruffles: if that person deletes the file, and another person creates a file of the same name, gedit errors on attempts to save the new file. that seems to be a flaw to me
[06:52] <Ruffles> nemo_work, isn't the file starting with a . on its name?
[06:52] <nemo_work> Ruffles: right. is hidden. that's exactly the problem :)
[06:52] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter wher do I get those numbers?
[06:53] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady non of theme
[06:53] <Ruffles> nemo_work, so why not saving it without the starting . ?
[06:53] <nemo_work> Ruffles: the other person thinks they cleaned up, but unfortunately as far as gedit is concerned, they didn't
[06:53] <voodookin> i stopped firestarter and it still said dht firewalled?
[06:53] <Shane-S> is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto a good tutorial for 6.10 server, to get php so it able to send mail out?
[06:53] <zak> hoi
[06:53] <Ruffles> nemo_work, maybe that's a problem with the file permissions.. maybe...
[06:54] <zak> hi
[06:54] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter, how can I know numbers to identify the partition?
[06:54] <nemo_work> Ruffles: person A creates temp.txt.  Person A edits in gedit. Person A deletes temp.txt.  Person B creates temp.txt.  Person B edits in gedit.  Person B attempts to save. Gedit errors due to existence of .temp.txt~ owned by person A
[06:54] <zak> im quite new to ubuntu
[06:54] <nemo_work> Ruffles: both users have no clue as to hidden files.  This seems like super stupid behaviour on gedit's part
[06:54] <nemo_work> Ruffles: wondering if you know of a way to disable before I file a bug
[06:54] <Ruffles> nemo_work, mmmm.. it seems gedit creates that file as a temporary
[06:55] <Ruffles> nemo_work, i've never noticed it here though
[06:55] <nemo_work> yeah. and doesn't clean up, nor fail gracefully
[06:55] <nemo_work> Ruffles: try it with two people in /tmp sometime :)
[06:55] <nemo_work> what gedit *should* do is just skip temp file manipulation if it has no access and simply save ~!@# temp.txt
[06:55] <Ruffles> nemo_work, well.. there's always the text editors which allows ppl to edit files simultaneously anyway :)
[06:56] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: if your partition /dev/hda3 is your win dir:
[06:56] <TuxCrafter> mkdir /mnt/windows to create a folder to mount it
[06:56] <TuxCrafter> sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows
[06:56] <TuxCrafter> read the link i send you
[06:56] <nemo_work> Ruffles: another wierd one along those lines.  I tried adding a modified umask to gdm/Xsession.  And, well, seems to be getting ignored
[06:56] <nemo_work> Ruffles: right clicking to create a new file from template in /shared  still creates with 600 permissions instead of 644
[06:57] <Kazero> Crap, I accidentally removed the task manager type thing from the panel, and when I click to add things to the panel, I cant find that one.
[06:57] <Ruffles> nemo_work, i guess that's due to the / directory.. try to create a shared directory into /home
[06:57] <Kazero> Can anyone help?
[06:57] <Ruffles> that might help
[06:57] <voodookin> i am used to using uttorent , so maybe i should get WINE and run it instead of azureus?
[06:57] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: and for uuid numer information _> cat /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[06:57] <nemo_work> Ruffles: same thing happens in their home directory
[06:57] <nemo_work> Ruffles: has nothing to do with where on file system
[06:57] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter, how can I create dir when I still do not have the system? should I do it later?
[06:57] <nemo_work> Ruffles: grep umask /etc/X11/gdm/Xsession
[06:57] <nemo_work> umask 0022
[06:57] <Kazero> voodookin: I can confirm that utorrent works with wine.
[06:58] <nemo_work> seem right to you?
[06:58] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: did you read the link I send you
[06:58] <Kazero> voodookin: Its what I use on my other PC ;)
[06:58] <skvn> Hi, i just installed my nvidia graphics card(which the system didnt recognize before) and now i have an nvidia logo on startup.. i have some help on disabling it, with 'option "nologo"' but there are other options set for it in my xorg.conf too
[06:58] <voodookin> thanks, I'll try it
[06:58] <YoG> hi, I've changed the default application for avi files, but when I start them from a samba share the default totem starts, how do I change that?
[06:58] <nemo_work> Ruffles: I put that right below # initialize variables for use by all session scripts
[06:58] <pettern> Just installed flash9 by changing a rpm package to deb and installing it. But i still can use it because its not used by any of my browsers. how do i configure my system to use the flash9 plugin?
[06:58] <skvn> so how do i add that nologo there, just put it behind the other options?
[06:58] <Ruffles> nemo_work, well.. i'm clueless 'bout that.. sorry
[06:58] <Kazero> So anyone know how I can get the system bar back?
[06:58] <Judicata> Kazero: voodookin: why use utorrent through wine, and not azureus or ktorrent?
[06:58] <nemo_work> Ruffles: aight. you seemed clueful. sorry for bother. this isn't ubuntu specific anyway.  will move to a gnome channel
[06:59] <Judicata> Kazero: what system bar?
[06:59] <nemo_work> #ubuntu is too dang noisy :)
[06:59] <voodookin> i am having problems with azureus
[06:59] <Ruffles> nemo_work, it's ok.. :)
[06:59] <voodookin> DHT is firewalled
[06:59] <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu and then when I restart the pc. and start then my openoffice gtk bindings are broken! If i then start xfdesktop and kill it again openoffice is fine. byt I have tho had loaded xfdesktop once :-S?
[06:59] <Judicata> voodookin: try ktorrent.
[06:59] <voodookin> cant get any connections
[06:59] <nemo_work> voodookin: what's DHT?
[06:59] <voodookin> k torrent is for kde right?
[06:59] <nemo_work> voodookin: sounds like a generic bittorrent firewall setup question anyway.  why not ask in #bittorrent?
[06:59] <dcordes> voodookin: you can use all kde apps on gnome
[06:59] <Judicata> voodookin: it works great in gnome (certainly better than a windows app)
[06:59] <nemo_work> voodookin: they are used to explaining how to setup bittorrent in various linux
[06:59] <Kazero> Judicata: Know where the beryl icon shows when its running, as well as the opera icon, etc? That bar, I accidntally removed it
[07:00] <nemo_work> voodookin: I think switching to another client is unlikely to help
[07:00] <Ruffles> voodookin, bittornado is cool
[07:00] <dcordes> voodookin: forward port 6881 in your router firewall
[07:00] <Judicata> Kazero: Oh, right click, add to panel, notification area
[07:00] <skvn> i have 'Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"' so should i put the 'Option		"NoLogo"' under it, or just add the "NoLogo" behind "true"?
[07:00] <do> hallop
[07:00] <dcordes> voodookin: if you don'T get any connections it is not the fault of a certain client
[07:00] <voodookin> i dont use a router i have a direct firewire connection
[07:00] <dcordes> but of your connection
[07:00] <Kazero> Judicata: Doh! Thats which one it was ;) Thanks
[07:00] <skvn> anyone? :P
[07:00] <Judicata> Kazero: np.
[07:00] <nemo_work> dcordes: yep. he should ask in #bittorrent IMO.
[07:00] <YoG> hi, I've changed the default application for avi files, but when I start avi file from a samba share the default totem starts, how do I change that? anyone?
[07:00] <nemo_work> oh well. later
[07:01] <do> ubuntu rocks! and you too!
[07:01] <Judicata> Kazero: I've recently learned that any apps misuse the notification area. its not supposed to be like a system tray, apparently.
[07:01] <dcordes> do: sure we do
[07:01] <dcordes> do: if you use it you also rock
[07:01] <Kazero> Judicata: No? Thats silly
[07:01] <dcordes> maybe
[07:01] <do> i know
[07:01] <Judicata> Kazero: So, "notification area" doesn't describe how its actually used.
[07:01] <Judicata> hence its non-obvious.
[07:01] <Kazero> Judicata: It should be like a system tray, or there should be somthing like it
[07:01] <skvn> i have 'Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"' so should i put the 'Option		"NoLogo"' under it, or just add the "NoLogo" behind "true"? <- answer me, i know it's a stupid question but i really dont know :P
[07:02] <do> yes, i am on xchat... for the first time
[07:02] <thorre> greetings
[07:02] <thorre> i am having a look at ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Server
[07:02] <Judicata> Kazero: I think applications are supposed to implement that functionality otherwise. but, unless you develop it doesn't matter :)
[07:02] <skvn> and that is in xorg under my nvidia graphics card settings... :/
[07:02] <Alakazamz0r> ok thorre
[07:02] <thorre> i have one quick question: Whi does it not include the "latest" apache server?
[07:02] <Valde> Hey i'm on ubuntu now the latest build anyone able to take me through the steps of geting my nvidida 6200 card working on it ???
[07:03] <Alakazamz0r> thorre, same reason many other distros dont.
[07:03] <Ruffles> skvn, add another line bellow
[07:03] <dcordes> Valde: see the wiki on nvidida
[07:03] <skvn> thanks
[07:03] <Ruffles> yw
[07:03] <thorre> Alakazamz0r: 2.0.59 is a security release
[07:03] <skvn> valde http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:03] <cokeslut> Hi
[07:03] <nwonknu-> Hello
[07:03] <peter__> Hello all, does anyone have 3 minutes to help me sort out a video card problem?
[07:03] <do> slendingar?
[07:03] <dcordes> Valde: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:03] <peter__> ....I've tried the wiki
[07:03] <Valde> haah everyone with probs
[07:03] <Alakazamz0r> thorre, im fairly sure the release is patched that is in the Daper repositories.
[07:03] <skvn> oh latest build, not dapper then i guess
[07:03] <TuxCrafter> peter_ 3 minutes
[07:03] <skvn> :P
[07:03] <Judicata> peter__: just ask a question :)
[07:03] <TuxCrafter> then i am out of here
[07:04] <do> I dont have the knowledge, peter__
[07:04] <tabma1> what is the ubuntu-offtopic channel ?
[07:04] <skvn> but you should find it in ubuntuguide.org anyway
[07:04] <ubuntu_> yo
[07:04] <cokeslut> unsure
[07:04] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter, my fstab does not have anything assigned there yet since i did not install the system. should I assign all the partitions like that now before installing or should I do it after installing?
[07:04] <nwonknu-> interest
[07:04] <Judicata> tabma1: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:04] <TuxCrafter> peter: 3 minutx
[07:04] <Ruffles> steel_lady, it created fstab after the system has been installed
[07:04] <Ruffles> creates*
[07:04] <Valde> skvn it says its installed but when i sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it tells me its not installed
[07:05] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: what do you mean with installingen, are you still on the live cd
[07:05] <steel_lady> Ruffles, the system has not been installed
[07:05] <peter__> thanks...Having read the wiki, followed the instructions in the community web pages etc etc, I can load the nvidia drivers, but then I get a blank screen when I restart or restart x. No bongoes. The only way to recover is to reset, start recovery mode and edit xorg.conf using VIM to set the driver to "nv" ANy ideas???
[07:05] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter I am still on live CD
[07:05] <TuxCrafter> peter_: sorry i am atx and via expert
[07:05] <Tox> untu
[07:05] <Ruffles> steel_lady, u'll get fstab up after installing your system.. no need to edit it
[07:06] <ubuntu> recently my ubuntu crashed when i reboot in the live cd and mount my old hard drive the etc is a text file, usr is a symlink to a non existent file usr -> accept is there anyway to recover this?
[07:06] <peter__> Thanks anyway....I wondered if it might be a resolution problem...
[07:06] <YoG> hi, I've changed the default application for avi files, but when I start avi file from a samba share the default totem starts, how do I change that? anyone? :'-(
[07:06] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: you have to install ubnuntu fifst
[07:06] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter I am just tryiong to install the system and asking if i should change names in MountPoint boxes within the installer since it calls media the win partition
[07:06] <BrendanM> Hey, I tried to do updates with Synaptic, but it throws an error on this package wpasupplicant, but it still keeps trying to update it every time I run Synaptic. I can't unmark the package. Is there any way to tell it to just leave it alone???
[07:06] <Shane-S> ahh I need help. I installed 6.10 server, and I am now trying to use apt-get install postfix and it asking for the CD-rom, but I am in a remote location anything I can do
[07:06] <TuxCrafter> YES
[07:06] <LjL> Valde: if you're on edgy, use nvidia-xconfig rather than glx-config
[07:06] <Tox> hi how to launch mixer app if i accidentally switch it off ?
[07:07] <ubuntu> anyone
[07:07] <Valde> LjL can i pm you plz
[07:07] <ubuntu> >	recently my ubuntu crashed when i reboot in the live cd and mount my old hard drive the etc is a text file, usr is a symlink to a non existent file usr -> accept is there anyway to recover this?
[07:07] <LjL> Valde: you just did
[07:07] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: indead ifyou change them there correctly NOT FORMAT THEM they sould be automatic used in the fstab file!
[07:07] <LjL> Valde: if you ask me here, though, i suppose someone else may chirp in, or be interested themselves
[07:07] <Valde> Yea i want someone to help me go through step by step :D
[07:08] <Tox> !mixer
[07:08] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[07:08] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter why can not I change /media/hda1 to /win/hda1?
[07:08] <timo> what dose total file-system capacity mean ?
[07:08] <Tox> ppl tell me plz sound mixer app
[07:08] <Tox> name it!
[07:08] <steel_lady> TuxCrafter, it lets me write whatever there and then it should crate the folder no?
[07:08] <Judicata> steel_lady: it might make more sense to make it "/media/win"
[07:08] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: it is beter to use standards use /media/windows or /mnt/windows
[07:09] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: standards make live beter
[07:09] <Judicata> steel_lady: so I guess the partitioning worked correctly from earlier?
[07:09] <steel_lady> Judicata, Tuxcrafter, can I pot /mnt/win then? and what should I put for fat32?
[07:09] <oFF-beAt> :/ beryl freezed my system .. removed it.. and it has left my desktop really messed up now.. show desktop button no longer works
[07:10] <timo> steel_lady: need help mounting winodws drive ?
[07:10] <oFF-beAt> open widnows apps r not shown in task bar
[07:10] <Judicata> steel_lady, TuxCrafter: just name it /media/something or /mnt/something
[07:10] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: dont now what you mean just asign the partition to the mount point
[07:10] <steel_lady> Judicata, yes it worked, seems that partitioning within installer had problems
[07:11] <timo> well done
[07:11] <frogzoo> oFF-beAt: from the login screen, select gnome, (not xgl)
[07:11] <YoG> Tox, did you try gnome-volume-control?
[07:11] <Judicata> steel_lady: like /media/fat or /media/share or something.
[07:11] <steel_lady> Judicata, TuxCrafter, can I put then /mnt/share for fat32?
[07:11] <Tox> yog: oh thank you yog
[07:12] <n2diy> I DLed and installed an SMP kernel, now I want to move it to an other box, but I can't find it, any idea where it is hiding?
[07:12] <YoG> Tox, np
[07:12] <Valde> !ntfs
[07:12] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:12] <oFF-beAt> sorry had to log out.. desktop too messed up
[07:12] <Judicata> steel_lady: yes. And also realize that this part isn't that vital - if you change yoru mind later you can edit your fstab once it is installed.
[07:12] <dgrantwork> how do I launch an X program from the terminal, DISPLAY=? something...?
[07:12] <sivik> in firefox, how do i get the player to default to mplayer rather than totem
[07:12] <tabma1> I have a build in motherboard VGA and an external VGA on my CPU, can I do dual monitor ?
[07:12] <vleon> can someone tell me how can i terminate pppoeconf?
[07:12] <TuxCrafter> steel_lady: dont now what you mean with fta32  just asign a partition to a mount point
[07:12] <Tox> yog: thought all cant speek here or hear :)
[07:12] <oFF-beAt> saw some one sayin something to me while i was being logged out
[07:12] <Shane-S> anyone? how can I get the server cd contents on the system so it stops asking for it when I added applications/servers/services
[07:12] <frogzoo> dgrantwork: should already be set DISPLAY=:0.0
[07:13] <sivik> Shane-S, go comment out that line in the sources.list file
[07:13] <steel_lady> Judicata, I ordered for formatting only / swap and home and beginning the install
[07:13] <Judicata> steel_lady: everything sounds good.
[07:13] <Shane-S> sivik: will the apps still install fine?
[07:13] <YoG> hi, I've changed the default application for avi files, but when I start avi file from a samba share the default totem starts, how do I change that? anyone? :'-( please?
[07:13] <sivik> Shane-S, yes, it will just stop asking for the cd
[07:14] <frogzoo> dgrantwork: just enter the name of the X executable, should just work, eg, try 'xclock'
[07:15] <pebblestone> I have a ubuntu server box installed in vmware and I'm going to migrate it to a VPS server. Is there any simple solutions?
[07:16] <steel_lady> Judicata, I forgot to ask, I did swap of 1024mb for 1G ram but I think it jumped to 1020 later
[07:16] <Shane-S> sivik: I did that and now it errors saying package postfix is not available, so I take it I have to go download everything?
[07:16] <Judicata> steel_lady: don't worry about it.
[07:16] <n2diy> I DLed and installed an SMP kernel, now I want to move it to an other box, but I can't find it, any idea where it is hiding?
[07:16] <sivik> Shane-S, you have to do an update before you can try and download anything else
[07:17] <Shane-S> ok ty
[07:17] <Kazero> So is there a object dock type program for ubuntu?
[07:17] <sqwishy> the beryl people are talking about compy specs. can i post a slightly beryl related problem here?
[07:17] <steel_lady> Judicata, it is installing. With live CD it did not detect the network, I am not sure if something is wrong with hardware (it may be, laptop is not mine) or just does not work out of the box
[07:18] <tabma1> I have a build in motherboard VGA and an external VGA on my CPU, can I do dual monitor ?
[07:18] <sqwishy> kazero try kiba-dock
[07:18] <coral> Hello
[07:18] <Judicata> steel_lady: ok, someone can help you with that when you get the system loaded.
[07:18] <thug> hi all
[07:18] <thug> how do i enable ed acceleration ?
[07:18] <sqwishy> does anyone else have the problem on ubuntu edgy where doing a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' will remove nvidia-glx?
[07:18] <Kazero> sqwishy: Thanks, will do
[07:19] <sqwishy> oh kazero you need beryl
[07:19] <sqwishy> i forgot. otherwise transparency doesn't work
[07:19] <StraightShooter> !ntfs
[07:19] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:19] <StraightShooter> !ntfs-3g
[07:19] <ubotwo> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:20] <coral> installed a multiboot system yesterday, Ubuntu installer did however name the disks wrong for grub, and now i can't start anything at all (except linux, after i changed (hd2,0) to (hd0,0)) How do i get my windows running again
[07:20] <finalbeta> When my user session starts, I need to run this command: arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay -Dplug:default , and it needs to continue until I log out. How can I best do this?
[07:21] <Chousuke> finalbeta: .Xsession?
[07:21] <frogzoo> finalbeta: gnome's 'session' setup
[07:21] <Lnxguy> please can you help me install firefox 2.0.0.1 over firefox 1.0.2 on UBUNTU 5.04 ?
[07:21] <finalbeta> Thnx
[07:21] <Lnxguy> please can you help me install firefox 2.0.0.1 over firefox 1.0.2 on UBUNTU 5.04?
[07:22] <Chousuke> Lnxguy: Don't repeat.
[07:22] <steel_lady> Judicata, when it finishes do I need to do something with grub?
[07:22] <n2diy> I DLed and installed an SMP kernel, now I want to move it to an other box, but I can't find it, any idea where it is hiding?
[07:22] <Judicata> steel_lady: grub should detect your windows partition, and it should take care of things automatically.
[07:23] <dbdez78> hello?
[07:23] <marlun> Can the nautilus cd/dvd creator burn images like the ubuntu image?
[07:23] <Kazero> Ok,im sure you're all sick of my questions, but how do I define what terminal commands to run when I start the XGL session?
[07:23] <frogzoo> Lnxguy: it would probably be a lot of work, I imagine you'd need to compile from source
[07:23] <marlun> I mean cd images, not photos.
[07:23] <dbdez78> anyone know much about dvd::rip?
[07:23] <neuratix> marlun: i'm not sure, but k3b is good anyway ;)
[07:23] <Shane-S> I keep gettign 403 errors now when it tries to fetch packages, anyway to fix that?
[07:23] <marlun> neuratix, k3b?
[07:23] <Gizmo_the_Great> I have a dual processor machine. But the 'task manager' (to coin the Windows term) only ever shows the activity of one CPU. In Windows, the task manager has two seperate columns for each CPU. Am I missing something?
[07:24] <neuratix> marlun, it's a very easy to use burning program
[07:24] <defend> anyone here use a custom kernel with out a initrd file
[07:24] <frogzoo> Gizmo_the_Great: edgy or dapper?
[07:24] <dbdez78> I can't figure out how to get it to transcode to one .avi file instead of individual chapter files...
[07:24] <neuratix> marlun: it's in the repositories
[07:24] <defend> i cant get ubuntu to boot with out one no mater what i try
[07:24] <Gizmo_the_Great> frogzoo, dapper
[07:24] <defend> it is driving me nut
[07:24] <defend> s
[07:24] <marlun> neuratix, ah, I try to stay away from KDE software, don't like the look of it :)
[07:24] <frogzoo> Gizmo_the_Great: you running the 686 kernel?
[07:24] <Tenris> What's the kernel used by Feisty ?
[07:25] <Valde> !mp3
[07:25] <ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:25] <Gizmo_the_Great> frogzoo, 2.6.15-27-386
[07:25] <Judicata> Kazero: check out the website I gave you earlier. http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[07:25] <NullByte> Hi
[07:25] <frogzoo> Gizmo_the_Great: try 686
[07:25] <LjL> Valde: you should be able to ask it in a private message too
[07:25] <rbil> dbdez78: I use DVDRipOMatic which makes creating divX files from DVDs incredibly easy
[07:25] <pagefault> is using the server kernel the only way to get dual core support in edgy?
[07:25] <Gizmo_the_Great> frogzoo, mmm, not sure how to do that? Is the 686 an upgrade of it>
[07:25] <andreid> hello. what do you think about gayubuntu?
[07:25] <dbdez78> is that available through apt?
[07:26] <frogzoo> Gizmo_the_Great: iirc linux-image-686
[07:26] <LjL> andreid: i think it's offtopic, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:26] <oFF-beAt> andreid, lol gayubuntu?
[07:26] <rbil> http://dvdripomatic.sourceforge.net/view.php/page/Voorpagina
[07:26] <Pici> !joke > andreid
[07:26] <oFF-beAt> andreid, u have a different version then
[07:26] <neuratix> marlun: i see. but i guess you don't burn cdimages everyday anyway? :-)
[07:27] <pebblestone> Hi, I have a question. I installed ubuntu server on vmware and now I'm going to migrate it to a VPS server. Is there any simple solution?
[07:27] <Gizmo_the_Great> frogzoo, ? I dont understand?
[07:27] <Shane-S> doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade on a 6.10 server yeilds 403 errors on every item
[07:27] <neuratix> marlun: i don't know of any other, a search through the repositories might help
[07:27] <marlun> neuratix, no I don't :) usually do it on windows.
[07:27] <unop> Shane-S, please !pastebin (not in here) the errors you are seeing
[07:27] <voodookin> wanted to let yall know, just installed ktorrent, and it works fine, azerus just sucks ass
[07:28] <voodookin> hit 300 kbs off the bat
[07:28] <LjL> !language | voodookin
[07:28] <ubotwo> voodookin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:28] <LinTux> how do I make adobe acrobat the default PDF application
[07:28] <voodookin> oops
[07:28] <voodookin> :-[
[07:28] <Judicata> marlun: I try to stick with Gnome apps, but k3b is a guilty pleasure  - great piece of software.
[07:28] <donkeylips> !language LjL
[07:28] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[07:28] <LjL> !botabuse | donkeylips
[07:28] <ubotwo> donkeylips: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:28] <donkeylips> !language | LjL
[07:28] <ubotwo> LjL: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:28] <Judicata> voodookin: np. glad ktorrent works for you.
[07:29] <steel_lady> ok, one easy question for my other laptop: I have amule incoming to /home/user/.aMule/incoming, so I go to /home/user and I do not see there how to reach my files
[07:29] <Shane-S> unop: http://www.pastebin.ca/321764
[07:29] <n2diy> ! amule
[07:29] <ubotwo> amule - client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[07:29] <donkeylips> lame
[07:29] <dbdez78> is that for KDE or does it work with Gnome also?
[07:29] <unop> steel_lady, simply navigate to that folder -- in nautilus -- press CTRL+H to see hidden files/folders
[07:29] <Pici> steel_lady : any file or directory that is prefixed by a dot (.) is hidden
[07:29] <Judicata> steel_lady: cd .amule. in Nautilus - view show hidden files.
[07:29] <marlun> Judicata, ok :)
[07:30] <steel_lady> what is Nautilus?
[07:30] <black_abaddon> hi
[07:30] <andreid> oFF-beAt: no, seriously. no flame intended. gayubuntu.com . its a community of gay ubuntu users. I was wondering what is it about
[07:30] <black_abaddon> i am gay
[07:30] <MindFreek> how do I terminate a VNC session locally?
[07:30] <Judicata> steel_lady: Nautilus is just the file browser. Click "places - home"
[07:30] <black_abaddon> i like big dick in my tiny anus
[07:30] <jatt> hi, I am just installing ubuntu (dapper) from a CD on a new laptop I got which has only windows xp installed on it
[07:30] <afv-13> how would a person specify which repositories packages to prefer? eg, prefer the wine package from wine themselves over ubuntu's
[07:30] <vleon> can someone please tell me how to turn off ppoeconf?
[07:30] <NullByte> Hi mmmm....
[07:30] <jatt> I am now in the "Partition disks" part of the installer
[07:31] <steel_lady> Ok Judicata I got it
[07:31] <jatt> When I enter XP I have two partitions:
[07:31] <jatt> C: and D: (D is unformatted)
[07:31] <renato> hello, I'll ask here, since there's no one at the server channel. Any one know of a nice GUI application to manage basic maintenance network tasks like adding users, devices, backing up, etc. for a small office network I intend to run myself (not an IT expert)
[07:31] <jatt> the ubuntu installer says that I have 1 logical partition
[07:31] <LjL> now, black_abaddon definitely went overboard, but gaybuntu is still quite offtopic. please make good use of the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[07:31] <jatt> and 1 primary partition
[07:31] <MindFreek> how do I terminate a VNC session locally?
[07:31] <Judicata> LjL: you think? :)
[07:31] <jatt> I expected 2 primary partitions
[07:32] <jatt> can I install ubuntu on a logical partition?
[07:32] <unop> Shane-S, is 195.248.90.35 your IP address?
[07:32] <LjL> Judicata: yes, i don't believe it's an official ubuntu derivative - and at any rate, "what do you think about XYZ-distro" is not quite ontopic here
[07:32] <wimpies> when I print an simple ASCII file gutenprint basically hangs or produces data to my printer which that printer does not understand.  Can anybody help ? I have a simple HP 930C and AFAIK it is configured properly
[07:32] <neuratix> jatt: i think so
[07:32] <steel_lady> Judicata something strange is happening with that installation. it is on 50% and having written for ages the number 158:40 remaining scratching like crazy over the disk and now it stopped reading from the disk and i don't see that is doing anything
[07:32] <jatt> it is a 40GB disk. 21GB are in the primary partition and 19.0 ond the logical one
[07:33] <Judicata> steel_lady: that sounds bad.
[07:33] <Shane-S> unop: not that I am aware of, as we should be 209. or 206. something, but my IP here should be the same the server uses
[07:33] <Judicata> LjL: I was kidding. I completely agree.
[07:33] <Kazero> Is there an official kiba-dock site?
[07:33] <renato> Once more and I'll stop bothering. Any one know of a nice GUI application to manage basic maintenance network tasks like adding users, devices, backing up, etc. for a small office network I intend to run myself (not an IT expert)
[07:33] <Shane-S> the server is behind a NAT firewall which redirects a certain Ip to it, let me fetch my external IP
[07:33] <Valde> Anyone help me get mp3 working
[07:34] <Judicata> steel_lady: wait a bit and see if it starts working again.
[07:34] <steel_lady> Judicata, it doesn't sound at all but it gives me a frightening impression
[07:34] <neuratix> jatt: anyway, you can just delete the logical partition and make a new primary if you'd like
[07:34] <bkingx> Does anyone know of a real-time linux router monitor?
[07:34] <unop> Shane-S, errm, well -- 195.248.90.35 is being denied a service by the servers -- if thats not your address, are you using a proxy perhaps?
[07:34] <Judicata> steel_lady: I've been worried through all of this that you may have an error with your hard drive, but I thought we were through that.
[07:34] <Shane-S> unop: going to an IP site it reports   209.204.99.3 which is correct, I will check the firewall real fast to see what IP it re-directs,no we do not use a proxy
[07:34] <dbdez78> Valde, download and run Automatix, it included installation scripts for all sorts of good stuff
[07:35] <bkingx> Specifically snmp?
[07:35] <Judicata> steel_lady: are you able to cancel the installation, or is it frozen?
[07:35] <jatt> recommended size of the swap partition is 2xRAM isn't it? I do have 2GB ram
[07:35] <LjL> !automatix | dbdez78, Valde
[07:35] <ubotwo> dbdez78, Valde: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:35] <steel_lady> Judicata, where it says installing system, should I click on x to close the window?
[07:36] <Judicata> jatt: I have 1GB ram and 1GB swap with no problems. I just couldn't bring myself to do give up the extra gb. :)
[07:36] <neuratix> jatt: i don't think 4gb of swap will be needed
[07:36] <Judicata> steel_lady: is there not another button for cancel or abort?
[07:36] <neuratix> jatt: i've got 1gb ram and 1gb swap too
[07:36] <steel_lady> judicata, no nothing
[07:37] <jatt> neuratix: thanks will try with 2GB then instead
[07:37] <Judicata> jatt: but, yes, 2X ram is the rule of thumb (and has ben for as long as I can remember - it was easier to swallow when I had 64mb)
[07:37] <Judicata> steel_lady: so...nothing is happening? does your mouse move? can you click on the menus?
[07:37] <jatt> which is the difference between primary and logical partition?
[07:37] <jatt> the installer asks me to choose one
[07:38] <frogzoo> Judicata: once you have a gig of ram, 2gigs of swap is overkill
[07:38] <timo> How do i download and install the new gtk-gnutella release 0.96.3
[07:38] <jatt> I want to avoid to delete the master boot record of windows
[07:38] <jatt> I want dual boot
[07:38] <LjL> Judicata, jatt: the "recommended 2X" or "2.5X" or "1.5X" (or... there's probably a thousand variations) isn't really based on any hard facts, although i seem to recall that in much older versions of Linux, some subtle bug made a specific swap size recommendable. with today's RAM sizes, usually having just as much swap as one has RAM is good enough
[07:38] <rbil> frogzoo: no kidding!
[07:38] <Judicata> frogzoo: that's what I think too.
[07:38] <steel_lady> Judicata, yes my mouse moves and I hear light scratching on the disk reader, I dont know maybe it si trying to read and something is wrong with CD?
[07:38] <LjL> jatt: deleting the MBR doesn't mean you won't be able to dual boot. GRUB will be installed in the MBR, which allows you to boot to windows quite fine
[07:38] <Shane-S> unop: nope 209.204.99.3 is the servers external dedicated IP address, and it is routed locally via NAT to 10.9.0.8
[07:38] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jatt about dualboot | jatt, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:39] <Judicata> LjL: thanks for verifying - so I can know I'm not leading people astray :)
[07:39] <frogzoo> rbil: do you use suspend? you still need 1x
[07:39] <steel_lady> Judicata, should I try to click on x?
[07:39] <rbil> frogzoo: no I don't use suspend
[07:39] <Shane-S> and the .8 is the servers set IP
[07:39] <jatt> hmmm I need to set the bootable flag of the linux partition isn't it?
[07:39] <Judicata> steel_lady: no, wait a few more minutes.
[07:39] <jatt> now I have in the installer:
[07:39] <LjL> Judicata: it's important, though, to have *at least* as much as your RAM (and probably a little more, just to avoid for "rounding errors"), because otherwise some things such as hibernation will not work
[07:39] <jatt> Bootable flag: off
[07:39] <frogzoo> jatt: linux doesn't look for the bootable flag, no
[07:39] <Demonswarm> alright
[07:39] <Demonswarm> im having a problem
[07:39] <LjL> jatt: it shouldn't really be necessary
[07:39] <steel_lady> Judicata, now I do not hear anything again
[07:39] <Judicata> LjL: ok, gotcha.
[07:40] <jatt> I see I will leave it off
[07:40] <rbil> frogzoo: but one can always just add a swapfile if the swap partition isn't enuf
[07:40] <frogzoo> rbil: sure sure
[07:40] <n2diy> I'm setting up a LAN which consists of two boxes, and a router. Both boxes can ping each other, and the router. And box 1 is setup to allow box 2 to ssh into it. How would I open a file on box one, from box 2?
[07:40] <Demonswarm> my server has been assigned a new network ip, but if i try forwarding the port it tells me: The marked IP address is not within the range of your machine
[07:40] <jamesbrose> n3diy ftp?
[07:40] <jatt> the bootable flag is set in the ntfs partition anyway
[07:41] <unop> Shane-S, hmm, thats really odd
[07:41] <neuratix> n2diy: look into sshfs or you can use scp
[07:41] <bkingx> Need a real-time snmp monitor for ppc version
[07:41] <n2diy> jamesbrose: no, I want to open a file, not transfer it.
[07:41] <jatt> So I have now two primary partitions: 1 ntfs partition, 1 ext3 partition and swap partition.
[07:41] <frogzoo> bkingx: mrtg or cacti
[07:41] <jatt> ntfs and ext3 are primary, looks good isn't it?
[07:41] <Judicata> steel_lady: still wait a minute or two. If it still doesn't do anything, try to exit and start over (the partitions will still be there, so you don't have to go through that mess again).
[07:41] <n2diy> neuratix: roger sshfs.
[07:41] <Shane-S> do you thin Ubuntu 6.10 comes with a proxy enabled by default, it asked during install which I said no to
[07:41] <jatt> installer is asking it will write the changes to disk, with a big warning...
[07:42] <Judicata> steel_lady: i've got to go, but i'm sure someone can help you the rest of the way. good luck.
[07:42] <Demonswarm> my server has been assigned a new network ip, but if i try forwarding the port it tells me: The marked IP address is not within the range of your machine
[07:42] <bkingx> frogzoo: mrtg and cacti are not realtime enough
[07:42] <bkingx> I am needing something like prtg.
[07:42] <steel_lady> Judicata, thank you, I feel a bit desperate already
[07:42] <unop> Shane-S, no, proxy is not enabled by default -- but you can check using gnome-network-preferences
[07:42] <jatt> ok... I tell the installer to write the changes... hopefully nothing breaks :)
[07:43] <Shane-S> its server, no gnome, just command line
[07:43] <jatt> ubuntu uses grub isn
[07:43] <jatt> isn't it?
[07:43] <dbdez78> anyone know how to install DVDRip-O-Matic on ubuntu
[07:43] <adop> n2diy: you could also use nautilus with ssh:// uris
[07:43] <neuratix> n2diy: sshfs allows you to mount the filesystem of your remote host on your system and use it as it was a part of your local filesystem. works great but a bug in (at least) dapper made it a bit tricky to setup
[07:43] <jatt> AFAIK grub will take care to don't delete my windows partition
[07:43] <thug> how do i enable 3d acceleration ?
[07:43] <dbdez78> I click on the installer and it does nothing
[07:43] <rbil> dbdez78: just unpack it and it's there
[07:43] <jatt> I mean to don't delete my windows boot!
[07:43] <rbil> see the requirements in terms of packages you need to have installed
[07:44] <rbil> http://dvdripomatic.sourceforge.net/view.php/page/Install
[07:44] <dbdez78> yeah, that's what it says - about having kommander installed; did that but still doesn't work, just stalls out
[07:44] <unop> Shane-S, ahh, well, dont think a proxy is an issue -- can you try the apt-get command again and !pastebin the errors - just to see if anything varies
[07:44] <n2diy> neuratix: of course I'm using Dapper. :/
[07:44] <neuratix> n2diy: try adops tip
[07:45] <LjL> jatt: GRUB has nothing to do with deleting partitions, it's just a bootloader, i.e. it loads operating systems
 n2diy: you could also use nautilus with ssh:// uri
[07:45] <rbil> dbdez78: I just unpack the files into some directory off my home directory
[07:45] <n2diy> adop: I don't understand the syntax, current I'm logged into box 1 from box 2, so just run "nautilus?"
[07:45] <LjL> jatt: it's the Ubuntu installer that is supposed to avoid deleting your Windows partition (if you tell it so, when asked!), and can also shrink it down a bit to make space for the Ubuntu partition if necessary
[07:45] <d2812> how can I configure ubuntu to boot only to a console? I dont want a GUI such as Gnome or XFCE running unless I type startx.
[07:45] <neuratix> adop: i didn't know about that until now, thanks :)
[07:45] <rbil> dbdez78: then create a launcher to run a command similar to this ... kmdr-executor /home/rbil/Downloads/DVDRipOMatic-0.95/DVDRipOMatic.kmdr
[07:46] <cappiz> is it possbiel to make luks on the root device of a ubuntu setup?
[07:46] <donkeylips> d2812: edit inittab to boot runlevel 3
[07:46] <LjL> d2812: you could remove GDM, or perhaps just "sudo update-rc.d gdm remove"
[07:46] <adop> n2diy: run nautilus and then in the location bar enter ssh://username@hostname
[07:46] <neuratix> n2diy: just open the filebrowser on your local computer, press ctrl+l and write ssh://username@ip
[07:46] <donkeylips> d2812: dont listen to LjL because that will remove it.  Just edit /etc/inittab and change the run level from 5 to 3
[07:46] <Arcad3> Hi i'm in console mode
[07:46] <unop> d2812, disable the GDM service using services-admin
[07:46] <mnoir> cappiz: what is "luks"
[07:46] <n2diy> adop: ok, I'll givie it a try.
[07:46] <Arcad3> is there a way to start X11?
[07:47] <cappiz> mnoir, thats some crypto stuff :)
[07:47] <donkeylips> shheeshh... some bad advice in here, lol
[07:47] <rulus> Arcad3: startx
[07:47] <LjL> donkeylips: it won't remove a thing except the script that tells GDM to start at boot (and that can be restored easily enough still).
[07:47] <Arcad3> thankx
[07:47] <Rio> hey optimus, pici, mnoir.... my bro changed the port for me and it's still not running....
[07:47] <thug> how do i enable 3d acceleration for VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[07:47] <unop> donkeylips, edgy no longer uses init -- so its likely he doesnt have an inittab -- also the default runlevel on debian/ubuntu is 2 not 5
[07:47] <donkeylips> LjL: There is no point in doing that.  Thats why there are run levels.
[07:48] <donkeylips> unop: ahh, didnt think about that.
[07:48] <LjL> donkeylips: instead, using runlevel 3 *is* bad advice, since other services may possibly not be started, and on Edgy, upstart really only supports /etc/inittab as a side-thought (it gives a quick look at it, greps for the default runlevel, and tries to use it)
[07:48] <LjL> so yours is bad advice
[07:48] <Shane-S> unop: nope, same IP and everything, maybe I can do like a tracert?
[07:48] <donkeylips> LjL: Well, not really because all services are start but X in runlevel 3.
[07:48] <donkeylips> assuming they are using init.
[07:48] <Shane-S> i did one from my system (windows box) and that Ip doesn't come up, but there is a hope on a 195. network
[07:49] <Demonswarm> any1 here that knows it?
[07:49] <unop> Shane-S, yep -- see where that takes you -- also do a nslookup/dig on the server -- i'll see if it correlates to mine here
[07:49] <rogue780> I need to set my computer to automatically reboot at 2:00 AM every day...how do I go about this
[07:49] <mnoir> Rio: uuh - need a reminder as to yr situation
[07:49] <r_rehashed> hi everybody
[07:49] <rulus> !cron | rogue780
[07:49] <ubotwo> rogue780: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[07:49] <Shane-S> haha whats linux'es equal to "tracert"?
[07:50] <Tox> #kubuntu
[07:50] <unop> Shane-S, traceroute/tracepath
[07:50] <mnoir> Shane-S: traceroute
[07:50] <frogzoo> Shane-S: would you believe... traceroute ?
[07:50] <donkeylips> Shane-S, traceroute?
[07:50] <Shane-S> haha full thing :P
[07:50] <Byan> how do I install twisted..
[07:50] <Byan> it says there is no installation canidate...
[07:50] <unop> Shane-S, as it should be .. its only win32 that does things awkwardly :)
[07:51] <LjL> donkeylips: which, with all probability, they're not since quite a few people are using Edgy. also, i'm looking at my Edgy's /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d, and KDM is listed in both
[07:51] <steel_lady> how can I install real player? I found the installation on the net,  there are instructions how to install bin file but I am not shure does it apply for me?
[07:51] <cappiz> how can i list all files and deps to a package?
[07:51] <donkeylips> Ljl, yeah im not using Edgy. :/
[07:51] <LjL> cappiz: dpkg -L packagename lists the files
[07:51] <bkingx> MRTG and Cacti are not good enough.  Need realtime snmp monitor.
[07:51] <Rio> mnoir i installed apache webserver, supposedly got it running... now im logged onto my ubuntu machine remotely via ssh & cygwin and im trying to get apache running.  optimus pointed out that cox blocks port 80, so i had my bro change it to 8181 for port forwarding at the router....
[07:51] <r_rehashed> if I install kde from my gnome environment, will I be missing on some fine-tunings/specialisations present in Kubuntu, if any?
[07:51] <LjL> cappiz: apt-cache show packagename lists the direct dependencies
[07:51] <donkeylips> LjL: to much of a disappointment for me to goto Edgy from Dapper.
[07:51] <n2diy> adop: i get an error, "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol ssh isn't associated with any program.
[07:52] <LjL> cappiz: apt-cache --recurse depends packagename shows all dependencies recursively
[07:52] <Gosha> what is the kvnc server called? ( i badly want to kill it )
[07:52] <cappiz> kk :)
[07:52] <adop> n2diy: firefox?
[07:52] <Rio> mnoir i edited ports.conf for port change, restarted the server, then typed in my ip in my browser and it still gets nothing
[07:52] <unop> n2diy, are you trying to ssh with firefox?
[07:52] <n2diy> adop: yes
[07:52] <rulus> steel_lady: check http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/
[07:52] <cappiz> thanks, i forgot to install initramfs-tools on my usb pen wich im gonna use for the crypto thingy... gonna try copy the files over :P
[07:52] <Rio> any suggestions?
[07:52] <unop> Rio, if you change ports, you'll need to access it like this http://ip.add.re.ss:8181
[07:53] <Optimus> rio -- did you type in :8181 at the end of your ip?
[07:53] <cappiz> hum... might not work :S
[07:53] <cappiz> gah
[07:53] <n2diy> adop: whoops, you said Nautilus didn't you?
[07:53] <rulus> steel_lady: by adding this repo you can install opera and realplayer with apt-get
[07:53] <mnoir> Rio: this is so different from the way i would have proceeded that i will not be of help -
[07:53] <Shane-S> unop: herer are my results (from server itself) http://www.pastebin.ca/321782
[07:53] <adop> n2diy: y
[07:54] <Rio> ip:8181 doesnt work
[07:54] <Optimus> rio -- can you try and ping (from the command line, your ip address?
[07:55] <Rio> Optimus ping from my windows box, or ubuntu box?
[07:55] <Optimus> Ping your ubuntu webserver -- don't care from what os
[07:55] <mnoir> Rio: sorry - forgot that ports.conf is the new apache config file - did you change your default sites-enabled file to respond to 8181?
[07:55] <jjpicon> ola
[07:56] <unop> Shane-S, well, i get almost similar results -- can you browse http://security.ubuntu.com/ from the server using lynx/links
[07:56] <LjL> donkeylips: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitScriptList - paragraph is "Why does Ubuntu uses runlevel 2 as default? Will I ever need 3-5?"
[07:56] <jjpicon> kien eres
[07:56] <donkeylips> LjL, ill go there in a bit, im sure its talking about the new upstart whatever in Edgy
[07:56] <sukeltje> how can i get the mac address of my server?
[07:56] <Rio> mnoir i edited ports.conf to include port 8181 instead of 80.... is there another file i need to edit?
[07:57] <dbdez78> does anyone know if dvd::rip has a channel?
[07:57] <mnoir> Rio: i THINK so
[07:57] <Shane-S> dont have it installed
[07:57] <mnoir> Rio: do you use virtual domains in apache?
[07:57] <facenew> off topic, but i recommend a short movie "007 vs Man in Black": http://www.bytecool.com/ioiforum/read.php?1,6884,6884#msg-6884
[07:57] <rulus> sukeltje: try ifconfig
[07:57] <LjL> donkeylips: maybe, it doesn't specify
[07:57] <facenew> "007 vs Man in Black", a currently very popular short movie by some Chinese netizens (an English-subtitled version will soon appear at YouTube.com), mocks Kim Jong Il and his secret agent buying Hennessy XO wine from Chinese black market.
[07:57] <Shane-S> unop: ^^
[07:57] <Tox> is there device manager like application in ubuntu ?
[07:57] <n2diy> adop: ok, I'm in, navigated to my home dir., but when I double click on a text file I get an error message "can't display file....
[07:57] <LjL> donkeylips: but no, not really, it's been updated ages ago - possibly even before dapper
[07:57] <StraightShooter> who knows a good place for login screens?
[07:58] <mnoir> Rio: can we go to #ubuntu-classroom to continue - it is too noisy here for me
[07:58] <LjL> Tox: uhm, i think it's actually called Device Manager, under System / Administration
[07:58] <LjL> Tox: a console tool is lshw
[07:58] <rulus> StraightShooter: try gnome-look.org or kde-look.org
[07:58] <unop> Shane-S, errm, how about wget/w3m or nmap?
[07:58] <Rio> Optimus when i pinged from my windows box, it times out... when i ping from my ubuntu box, it returns some information
[07:58] <knight> ive got a usb host controller version 2.0 and 3 usb hc's of version 1.10 , but i cant read a portable harddisk usb 2.0 version is ther any way?
[07:58] <section31> i'm trying to change my screen resolution to something larger than 1024 but I can't.  Is it a driver issue?
[07:58] <Tox> LjL: tnx
[07:58] <JuJuBee> How do I add a route to my computers routing table so it will be there when I restart?
[07:58] <Pici> StraightShooter : try art.gnome.org too
[07:58] <unop> LjL, that page doesnt really explain why the default runlevel is 2 .. do you know why it is 2?
[07:59] <Optimus> Can you use the Ubuntu box to try and connect through the IP?
[07:59] <deny[all] > section31: which video chipset u have?
[07:59] <StraightShooter> rulus... looked there didn't see any
[07:59] <Optimus> Rio, Can you use the Ubuntu box to try and connect through the IP?
[07:59] <Shane-S> unop: wget I have what should I do try and get a package?
[07:59] <StraightShooter> pici... thats the one I was thinking of ... thanx
[07:59] <Tox> LjL: is it possible to remove hw there it wud be found again ?
[07:59] <Rio> optimus i dont understand what you mean by that
[07:59] <Pici> StraightShooter : theres also a gnome-art app, but I find it doesnt work great, but you can use that too
[07:59] <donkeylips> LjL, I have runlevel 3 on 6.06 so it seems the new init startup is in 6.10+
[07:59] <LjL> Tox: i don't understand the question
[07:59] <Tox> LjL: i have a prob with my mic it dznt work
[08:00] <d2812> The update-rc worked - thanks.
[08:00] <unop> Shane-S, well first try a simple http://security.ubuntu.com .. if that works -- try this http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/6/6tunnel/6tunnel_0.10rel-1.dsc
[08:00] <Optimus> Okay can you type my.ip.add.ress:8181 into firefox on the ubuntu machine
[08:00] <Rio> mnoir im in that channel.....
[08:00] <LjL> donkeylips, define "have" - do you mean you're positively sure X doesn't start at runlevel 3? what about the network then?
[08:00] <physique> how can i get codecs for totem?
[08:00] <LjL> Tox: the rest of the soundcard does work?
[08:00] <Tox> i need  programmable remove my sound card
[08:00] <Tox> yes
[08:00] <donkeylips> LjL, networking works, no X11.  Everything loaded but X.
[08:00] <Tox> and mic works on Windows
[08:00] <LjL> Tox: then it's got nothing to do with hardware detection, but probably everything to do with your mixer levels
[08:00] <physique> !codecs
[08:01] <ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:01] <Shane-S> unop: that worked and it fetch the index.html, trying second link
[08:01] <rulus> section31: can be a driver issue, paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the pastebin (address in title)
[08:01] <Tox> i checked mixer all setting its ok
[08:01] <knight>  ive got a usb host controller version 2.0 and 3 usb hc's of version 1.10 , but i cant read a portable usb harddisk
[08:01] <Optimus> Rio -- if you have ssh, ssh into the box and type "w3m my.internal.ip.address:8181"
[08:01] <deny[all] > section31: if you are using an nvidia card and the nv driver that's maybe the problem
[08:01] <n2diy> adop: ok, I'm in, navigated to my home dir., but when I double click on a text file I get an error message "can't display file....
[08:01] <Tox> its stopped so suddenly
[08:02] <Shane-S> unop: second link worked as well
[08:02] <Shane-S> 568/568
[08:02] <unop> donkeylips, you must have a custom setup then -- on my machine, level 2 and 3 both start the GDM
[08:02] <donkeylips> unop: IM using Dapper
[08:02] <Tox> LjL: how to resolve that problem plz help me
[08:02] <unop> Shane-S, hmm.. its probably apt-get then, try aptitude instead, it might do this differently
[08:03] <donkeylips> unop: Are you runnign Edgy or Dapper?
[08:03] <Rio> optimus my.internal.ip.address being 192.168.x.x? okay
[08:03] <unop> donkeylips, well, i installed Dapper and upgraded on from there -- so i still have the dapper settings, init, etc
[08:03] <Optimus> Rio, yup
[08:03] <Shane-S> unop: how do I use aptitude any referrence on the documents page of ubuntu?
[08:03] <n2diy> I SSHed into box 1 from box 2, navigated to my home dir., but when I double click on a text file I get an error message "can't display file....
[08:03] <donkeylips> unop: Not the same.  If you upgraded then its running the new setup from Edgy.
[08:04] <knight> there is nothing in like /dev/sd* when i connect my portable harddisk
[08:04] <LjL> Tox: type "amixer scontents" and pastebin the output
[08:04] <knight> what may be the problem?
[08:04] <unop> Shane-S, you can use it exactly as you would with apt-get -- sudo aptitude upgrade .. or sudo aptitude install package etc
[08:04] <Shane-S> alright thanks
[08:04] <Tox> ok hold on
[08:04] <Shane-S> I will give it a try later on
[08:04] <novaterata> can someone help me. i was adjusting an adjustable fan on my motherboard while it was on and bumped into something which made the computer turn off
[08:04] <Shane-S> I have to run now :(
[08:04] <rulus> knight: does it work?
[08:04] <novaterata> now it will start but only after powering off a few times
[08:04] <raulillo> wenas noxes
[08:04] <raulillo> alguien conoce un reproductor de swf?
[08:04] <novaterata> is it the motherboard of the power supply
[08:05] <rulus> knight: it might be recognised as /dev/hdb
[08:05] <knight> rulus: no i didnt get any sda drive in /dev
[08:05] <novaterata> or the power supply sorry
[08:05] <Tox> how to pastebin ?
[08:05] <Shane-S> hate being a helpdesk/network admin/ server admin/ pc repairer/ ink and toner/ email manager
[08:05] <unop> donkeylips, errm, nope, i still have an inittab and no upstart .. and i can assure you that i've always known level 2 to be the default on ubuntu .. right from hoary .. and the GDM starts in both level 2 and 3
[08:05] <Shane-S> I want 1 job so I can get really good at it :P
[08:05] <Shane-S> have a good day all thanks for the help and support
[08:05] <unop> donkeylips, IIRC this is the exact same behaviour experienced on debian too
[08:06] <donkeylips> unop: Werd.  I put 3 and boot to console.
[08:06] <Tox> !pastebin
[08:06] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:06] <donkeylips> werd = weird
[08:06] <unop> see ya Shane-S :) good luck
[08:06] <Tox> how to pastebin ?
[08:06] <knight> rulus: but its not in /dev/hdb
[08:06] <LjL> Tox: just go to that link and paste, and give me the URL
[08:06] <dromer> hmm, I think my flash is broken :/ (flash9 beta), I can't play flash-movies (video.google, youtube etc.) anymore ..
[08:07] <rulus> knight: hmm, probably a udev issue I guess, but don't know a thing about that
[08:07] <knight> rulus: error is ........mount: No medium found
[08:07] <unop> donkeylips, well, like i said, must be a custom setup, there's nothing wrong with that -- it's just not normal .. not what everyone else experiences :)
[08:07] <unop> anyway, i gotta run .. bbl
[08:07] <knight> do u know where can i get help?
[08:07] <Optimus> Rio -- any dice?
[08:07] <dromer> I'm guessing this is also due to me moving /home to another partition :(
[08:07] <section31> deny[all] ,it's an onboard intel chipset
[08:07] <section31> sorry for the late reply
[08:07] <donkeylips> unop: Yeah.  Guess im old school :(
[08:07] <Tox> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2156/
[08:07] <novaterata> is there a better room for hardware support, i just have good luck here
[08:08] <adop> n2diy: well, not all programs fully support gnome-vfs features, I think that gedit should work file though...
[08:08] <rulus> knight: here from another person, at the Launchpad support section, ubuntuforums.org, ...
[08:09] <Rio> Optimus sorry, im trying to listen to both you and mnoir in #ubuntu-classroom and this channel
[08:09] <Optimus> Rio, Haha, no problem, when you get a second, try that and see if you can access your site internally
[08:09] <n2diy> adop: I'm googling for an answer now. The error message doesn't give a lot to go on.
[08:10] <Rio> Optimus it says unknown url
[08:10] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows if there is an Alsa 1.0.13 backport for Dapper? please msg me
[08:11] <knight> !pastebin
[08:11] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:11] <Optimus> Rio, are you on your webserver doing that?
[08:11] <Tox> LjL: was there anything wrong in output ?
[08:11] <LjL> Tox: for "Simple mixer control 'Mic',0", it says "off" both on the left and right capture channels, so you'll never be able to record unless you *enable* the microphone in the mixer
[08:12] <Tox> LjL: it shows it is enabled
[08:12] <Rio> Optimus dont know what you mean.... i typed in that command from the terminal that is logged onto my ubuntu box
[08:12] <LjL> Tox: same goes for the "Capture" control, it's off and at almost 0% level
[08:12] <LjL> Tox: no it doesn't, it shows it's disabled
[08:12] <Tox> LjL: kmix
[08:13] <Optimus> Rio, Okay so YOU---->Computer you are typing on--------->SSH------->Webserver------->"w3m internal ip:8181"
[08:13] <vikal> #ubuntu.pl
[08:13] <Tox> LjL: what means those red lights
[08:13] <Optimus> Rio, correct
[08:13] <Tox> above i mean
[08:13] <Tox> ... below
[08:14] <LjL> Tox: well you could give me a screenshot. or just try typing "amixer sset Mic cap ; amixer sset Capture cap ; amixer sset Capture 100%"
[08:14] <Rio> optimus yeah it just says unknown url... i did it twice, once with port 8181, and once without any port
[08:14] <LjL> Tox: the red lights *are* the ones you must turn on in order for recording to work.
[08:14] <knight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2157/ can any1 check this and tell me whats the problem with my usb?
[08:14] <Tox> ok
[08:14] <LjL> it's you i'm saying that you have disabled, tox
[08:14] <finalbeta> I can't get sound to work on Flash 9. Any special things that need to be done? aoss or something?
[08:14] <Tox> LjL : then wot means green lites ?
[08:15] <Optimus> Rio, then something is completely hosed here -- try this sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:15] <knight>  there is nothing in like /dev/sd* when i connect my portable harddisk
[08:15] <section31> i'm trying to change my screen resolution to something larger than 1024 but I can't.  Is it a driver issue?  I'm using an onboard intel video chipset.
[08:15] <Tox> LjL : capture shows red indicator of sound level
[08:15] <LjL> Tox: they mean passthru is enabled for the channel - in other words, that you'll hear the microphone in real time
[08:15] <donkeylips> section31: Make sure your monitor is setup correctly too.
[08:16] <jatt> I am using a german keyboard. In the installer I specified this but now I have ubuntu installed on my laptop and the "-" key displays "/", how do I reconfigure my keyboard in X Window (without editing the xorg.conf file)?
[08:16] <section31> donkeylips,how so
[08:16] <deny[all] > someone here is on #ubuntu-es?
[08:16] <section31> it only allows me to change resolutions up to 1024x768
[08:16] <section31> and my native resolution on my lcd is 1280x1024
[08:16] <Rio> optimus it gets the same error i keep getting..... "apache2: could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName", listing that error twice
[08:16] <LjL> Ubotu, tell section31 about fixres | section31, see the private message from Ubotu
[08:16] <LjL> section31: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:16] <Tox> LjL: Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
[08:16] <Tox>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
[08:16] <Tox>   Capture exclusive group: 0
[08:16] <Tox>   Playback channels: Mono
[08:16] <Tox>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
[08:16] <Tox>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[08:16] <Tox>   Mono: Playback 31 [100%]  [on] 
[08:16] <Tox>   Front Left: Capture [on] 
[08:16] <n2diy> jatt: systems/prefs/keyboard
[08:16] <Tox>   Front Right: Capture [on] 
[08:17] <hanso> hey. when I look at /dev/sndstat is says MIDI: not enabled in config. how can I enable it?
[08:17] <LjL> Tox, use the pastebin for that please
[08:17] <LjL> Tox: anyway the microphone is enabled now, see if you can record
[08:17] <Tox> LjL: trying
[08:18] <squeaks> hey guys, when i 'chmod g-r *' in my home directory, only files not starting with '.' have permissions set -r, how can i get chmod to change hidden files too?
[08:18] <ZeiP> squeaks, chmod g-r .*
[08:19] <Optimus> Rio, try adding "ServerName your.ip.address.here" to apache.conf
[08:19] <Rio> optimus mnoir brought me to an interesting file ealier.... 000-default in the etc/apache2/enabled sites directory..... it lists "Allow from 127.0.0......" in there.... should i add another line someplace?
[08:19] <Tox> LjL: tnx a lot! it works :)
[08:20] <Tox> LjL: if i someday meet you i give big bottle of vodka! :)
[08:20] <mnoir> Rio: i think that line was a restrictor on a particular directory - if you want to pastebin the file i can look at it
[08:20] <LjL> Tox: of course it does. now keep in mind that you cannot really jump to the conclusion that your hardware isn't recognized, or such things, just because you have the mixer set bad
[08:21] <mnoir> Rio: you should not need to allow specific ips for general web access
[08:21] <Tox> LjL: its windows habits i need to get rid off this sht :)
[08:21] <Byan> anyone have any idea wtf?
[08:21] <Byan> http://rafb.net/p/DprTB182.html
[08:21] <Tox> linux is different
[08:21] <Tox> thats why i love it
[08:21] <mc44> LjL: I wish I could find the app which mutes amixer ever so often for no reason
[08:22] <LjL> Tox: not really, not in this respect... the Windows mixer has the very same controls, just arranged a bit differently perhaps
[08:22] <Byan> or if someone knows a better way to install twisted?
[08:22] <LjL> mc44: your GNOME or KDE mixer when you start a new GNOME or KDE session perhaps?
[08:22] <Tox> but it not mutes my mic
[08:22] <Azul> linux needs some work in the software mixing area
[08:22] <mc44> LjL: I dont think its GNOME, it happens like once a month and I've never figured out which app was doing it
[08:22] <ph8> does anyone know if i can get java 1.5/1.6 packages for ubuntu?
[08:23] <Rydekull> so, question, got a program here running on a host. Aslong as it's active everything is fine. As soon as network traffic to it drops, hence making it idle it gets killed after like 2 minutes. Any idea what might kill it like this?
[08:23] <donkeylips> I <3 LJL
[08:23] <squeaks> ZeiP, thanks
[08:23] <Rio> Optimus i tried adding the servername in that apache2.conf, restarted with no errors this time, but still no dice when i type in the ip address in my browser (on my windows box).....
[08:23] <ZeiP> squeaks, np.
[08:24] <Optimus> rio -- try connecting from the webserver like before with w3m
[08:24] <Rio> mnoir what file did you want to look at?
[08:25] <humanspecies> anyone here using evolution with exchange? I've got it working and have a calendar question!
[08:25] <pike_> ..
[08:25] <Azul> humanspecies, interesting name
[08:25] <steel_lady> I am very desperate now, I tried to install ubuntu and the laptop looks completly dead! help!
[08:25] <humanspecies> azul heh - so is azul!
[08:26] <Azul> :)
[08:26] <humanspecies> steel_lady: prsee CTRL+ALT+F7
[08:26] <humanspecies> steel_lady: press CTRL+ALT+F7
[08:26] <Rio> optimus w3m local ip either returns unknown url or cant load.... w3m ip returns autorization required....llooks like its asking for username and pass for my router... not sure tho
[08:26] <steel_lady> humanspecies it does not react!
[08:26] <benkillin> How do I make Ruby on Rails work with Apache 2 and Ubuntu 6.10?
[08:27] <Optimus> Rio, try putting in the UID and PW for the router
[08:27] <humanspecies> steel_lady what lights aron on the keyboard display - any? power? HD activity? etc? what model laptop?
[08:27] <Azul> steel_lady, press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:27] <Rio> Optimus okay...im in
[08:27] <Rio> Optimus not used to this interface tho
[08:27] <Optimus> rio -- looks like something is wrong with your router config
[08:27] <Rio> optimus .... from the terminal
[08:27] <steel_lady> humanspecies, dell latitude power turned on and blinking from time to time
[08:27] <Rio> optimus uhh...how do you know that?
[08:28] <Azul> steel_lady, you see anything on the screen?
[08:28] <Rio> Optimus well... theres actually two routers at that house.... one which acts AS a router....and the one i just logged onto, the router function has been disabled so that it acts like a switch
[08:28] <jatt> how do I disable the boot sound?
[08:28] <Rio> Optimus dont know if that info is relevant, but i thought id throw that out there
[08:28] <steel_lady> Azul, no the screen is black, after strl alt f1 mouse froze also
[08:29] <Azul> jatt, bios setup most likely
[08:29] <timo>  jatt: system preferences ,sounds !
[08:29] <mnoir> Rio: he knew cuz 'w3m ip' forced you up to the router to get back down to apache
[08:29] <Optimus> Rio if you are typing your IP from the web server with :8181 attached and it is asking you to login, then I would guess it doesn't know where to forward the packet
[08:29] <n2diy> adop: It is a file association problem, I double clicked on a pdf, and it opened up. The text file I was trying to open doesn't have a extension on it, I tried associating it with gedit, but that isn't sticking. I'm going to try and rename it with .txt, and see if that works.
[08:30] <timo> you know when you click Applications a menu drops down , how do i change the coulor of that menu
[08:30] <jatt> timo: thanks
[08:30] <mpatyna>  /leave
[08:30] <steel_lady> please, help me, my boss will kill me!!!
[08:30] <jatt> one more question: how do I reconfigure the keyboard (to use german keyboard)?
[08:30] <jatt> dpkg-reconfigure ????
[08:30] <Rio> Optimus damn, i dont know how to exitt.... after logging onto that "switch"
[08:31] <section31> LjL,when i went into the driver configuring utility...which driver do i select for an onboard intel chipset
[08:31] <steel_lady> !skype
[08:31] <ubotwo> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:31] <Optimus> Rio, use tab to move between hotlinks -- there should be a link to LOGOUT
[08:31] <humanspecies> steel_lady what CD is in there? is it Ubuntu 6.10?
[08:32] <humanspecies> steel_lady did you see it boot up?
[08:32] <steel_lady> humanspecies, no it is previous version
[08:32] <timo> system preferences keyboard
[08:32] <humanspecies> steel_lady no worries. did you see it boot up -- any graphics or logos, etc?
[08:32] <mnoir> Optimus: can't he just quit out of w3m (q)?
[08:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Any boot-time video mode gurus about? Edgy i386 Boot with usplash on a Vaio notebook (i810 video) - none of the  vga=7xx graphic modes are available (only 0F0x text modes) and I can't work out why or how to enable vesafb
[08:32] <knight> is there any compatiblity issues for usb 2.0 and older usb 1.1 ?
[08:32] <Optimus> mnoir, normally, of course, but if he needs to log back in to the router, he may nto be able to unless he exits properly
[08:33] <mnoir> Optimus: thru :)
[08:33] <steel_lady> humanspecies, I tried to install ubuntu through the live CD, then it stopped on 50 percent and could not go further and after some time screen just went black
[08:33] <mnoir> true even
[08:33] <Rio> Optimus didnt see where to logout, fortunately, i opened another xterm...
[08:33] <knight> is there any incompatiblity issues for usb 2.0 and older usb 1.1 ?
[08:33] <hivemind> Hey guys. I just installed 6.10 and I'm having problems with my wireless card (I'm in WinXP right now)
[08:33] <Optimus> Rio -- just hit q and then type y
[08:33] <steel_lady> humanspecies, I am afraid that I have an error on the disk
[08:33] <Rio> lol...there it goes
[08:34] <hivemind> Apparently I have to install the "ipw3945d" but I can't do it from apt because I cannot connect to the internet...
[08:34] <steel_lady> humanspecies, now it started to scratch on CD again
[08:34] <humanspecies> steel_lady i won't lie, not sure how good or bad that is, and hard for me to make suggestions without carefully looking at the setup/situation -- maybe someone else here can help?
[08:34] <h3xis> hivemind, ipw3945 works with edgy out of the box
[08:34] <humanspecies> steel_lady so is there any data you needed from teh disk?
[08:34] <hivemind> h3xis?
[08:34] <knight> do anyone know more about EHCI and UHCI host controllers?
[08:34] <humanspecies> steel_lady or can you reboot and try again, with no worries?
[08:34] <JosefK> hivemind: network-manager doesn't work out of the box on edgy though, you'd be best getting it with apt-zip first then installing it using a USB drive or similar
[08:34] <steel_lady> humanspecies I have windows on another partition that I can not touch
[08:35] <hivemind> Ack.
[08:35] <Rio> optimus okay... i got to that router when i typed in w3m WITHOUT 8181.... if i type it WITH it, it says "Unknown URI......"
[08:35] <rulus> steel_lady: maybe I haD windows on another partition :(
[08:35] <hivemind> JosefK is the package on the install CD?
[08:35] <h3xis> hivemind, youre talking about the 3945 daemon, i assume that's the card you have?
[08:35] <Rio> optimus ...i typed in the IP, not local ip
[08:35] <hivemind> h3xis Yup
[08:35] <humanspecies> sttel_lady did you select to install grub or liko (bootloaders) ? did you see the windows partition show up, or leave it as "untouched" in your configuration of the partitions for Ubuntu?
[08:35] <hivemind> Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
[08:35] <h3xis> hivemind, then there's no need to configure it. it's supported out of the box
[08:35] <steel_lady> humanspecies, it started trying to read again from the CD, I am afraid to press shut down by force
[08:35] <humanspecies> s/liko/lilo/
[08:36] <JosefK> hivemind: sadly not
[08:36] <hivemind> Perhaps, but I cannot connect to the internet.
[08:36] <knight> im not able to mount my portable hard disk
[08:36] <hivemind> At least in Linux.
[08:36] <Pici> hivemind : can you connect yourself to a wired network?
[08:36] <JosefK> hivemind: grab the package directly from http://packages.ubuntu.com/, checking it's dependencies
[08:36] <steel_lady> rulus don't do that to me, it is my bosses laptop
[08:36] <humanspecies> steel_lady always better safe-than-sorry :) giving it time = good
[08:36] <Rio> Optimus, mnoir: damn, i thought this was gonna be easy... install apache, start apache, then TADA!!
[08:36] <JosefK> hivemind: then you can dpkg -i it
[08:36] <krang> join #centos
[08:36] <steel_lady> humanspecies I gave it 3 hours
[08:36] <humanspecies> steel_lady how much ram and what cpu in your latitude?
[08:36] <h3xis> JosefK, what? are you saying that it's not already in edgy?
[08:36] <Optimus> Rio, it is, I do it all the time
[08:36] <humanspecies> steel_lady ummm....
[08:37] <steel_lady> rulus if this happened, ubuntu will never see me again
[08:37] <Rio> Optimus ddoh!! then...i dont get whats going on
[08:37] <steel_lady> humanspecies I have 1G
[08:37] <rulus> steel_lady: backups?
[08:37] <JosefK> steel_lady: you don't have a Core 2 Duo CPU by any chance?
[08:37] <steel_lady> rulus o backups
[08:37] <hivemind> Wow.
[08:38] <hivemind> The dependeny list on Network-manager scares me
[08:38] <JosefK> h3xis: ipw3945d is in edgy by default, network-manager is not
[08:38] <steel_lady> JosefK I don't have idea, laptop is not mine, it looks old it is dell latitude but I don't know which one
[08:38] <h3xis> JosefK, yes it is.
[08:38] <hivemind> Is any network-manager esque util included?
[08:38] <abarbaccia> hello all - im having trouble getting php-pear to play nice with apache2
[08:38] <JosefK> h3xis: really?  not here :/
[08:38] <Optimus> rio - what model of router do you have?
[08:38] <h3xis> JosefK, i installed edgy on my thinkpad a month ago and it was in there by default
[08:38] <abarbaccia> is there anything that i need to enable? i have php5 working with apache2
[08:38] <humanspecies> steel_lady -- don't fret. if you re-wrote drive partitions, that's recoverable, if you wrote data over the prior data... that's a different brdige-to-arrive-to-later.
[08:39] <humanspecies> steel_lady what was the last screen you saw before it blanked out? writings from teh screen?
[08:39] <Optimus> Rio, brb
[08:39] <h3xis> JosefK, it said in the system tray because i remember managing my wireless network with it
[08:39] <h3xis> JosefK, s/said/sat
[08:39] <Rio> Optimus damn, i dont know the model of my router
[08:39] <knight> ny usb portable harddisk is not able to mount. i think im using older usb driver versions what can i do?
[08:39] <steel_lady> humanspecies, it was frozen on 50% installation for ages with time left not changing
[08:39] <JosefK> h3xis: obscure, I've always had to install it by hand, guess it could be me using the alternate not live cd
[08:40] <h3xis> JosefK, could be it. my install was done through the livecd
[08:40] <steel_lady> humanspecies, should I try to shut it down on a button?
[08:40] <humanspecies> steel_lady i am trying to determine the point at which it stopped
[08:40] <humanspecies> steel_lady not sure yet
[08:40] <hivemind> Alright, I haven't used Ubuntu for a couple months... "dpkg -[options?]  foo.deb"?
[08:40] <knight> my usb portable harddisk is not able to mount. what can i do?
[08:40] <aufumy> hi, have a question about installing php5
[08:40] <steel_lady> humanspecies what else can be done? it is not responding for too long now
[08:41] <aufumy>  php5-mysql: Conflicts: php5-mysqli but 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4 is to be installed
[08:41] <h3xis> knight, why isnt it mounting?
[08:41] <humanspecies> steel_lady - 3hrs is a long time, you might prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
[08:41] <humanspecies> steel_lady if you did your part properly and asked the installed NOT to touch the windows partition, you're going to be fine. :)
[08:41] <steel_lady> humanspecies the worst means what'
[08:41] <steel_lady> humanspecies I did that
[08:42] <knight> h3xis: i dont know what exactly is the problem theres nothing to mount from /dev
[08:42] <rulus> steel_lady: well, there's no problem then
[08:42] <h3xis> knight, what is it usually in /dev?
[08:42] <steel_lady> humanspecies now it stopped trying to read from the CD, maybe something is wrong with CD?
[08:42] <rulus> steel_lady: If I were you I should retry with the alternate install cd
[08:42] <knight> h3xis: to mount sda or sda1 etc.
[08:43] <Opermax> Hi! Does anyone know WLAN-Cards and solving problems? That's wha I am still stuck on Windows...
[08:43] <humanspecies> steel_lady perhaps *shrug*
[08:43] <aufumy> how, how do I install 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
[08:43] <humanspecies> steel_lady did you take the CD out and look to see if it is scratched?
[08:43] <knight> h3xis: is it not like that?
[08:43] <h3xis> knight, assuming you have a single master IDE hdd, it should be sda1 and it's not there?
[08:43] <matt4magic> Which card?
[08:43] <humanspecies> steel_lady did you also boot into windows and make sure your boss' stuff is all backed up too?
[08:43] <Opermax> DWL-G122 Rev. B 1 rt2570
[08:43] <steel_lady> humanspecies, how can I make it open CD drawer?
[08:44] <humanspecies> steel_lady or you could ghost it, and not boot into windows, before you try again
[08:44] <humanspecies> steel_lady you can do it when it is turning on and before it starts to load
[08:44] <steel_lady> ghost it how?
[08:44] <knight> h3xis: ive got a 40 gb haddisk and that i mounted from hda
[08:44] <humanspecies> try typing 'eject' if you have a root prompt
[08:44] <Optimus> Rio - whatmodel of router do you have?
[08:44] <h3xis> knight, okay, and do you have any sda devices in /dev?
[08:44] <giuseppe> freenode.net su #ubuntu-it o anche su #ubuntu-it-chat
[08:45] <Opermax> matt4magic: DWL-G122 Rev. B 1 rt2570
[08:45] <humanspecies> steel_lady google for "howto backaup a drive using ghost" or "howto backup using dd"
[08:45] <knight> h3xis: no
[08:45] <giuseppe> #ubuntu-it
[08:45] <h3xis> knight, sounds like a udev issue. have you rebooted?
[08:45] <Opermax> Hi! Does anyone know WLAN-Cards and solving problems? That's wha I am still stuck on Windows...
[08:46] <humanspecies> Exchange calendar sharing -- anyone got it working with Evolution?
[08:46] <giuseppe> excuse me
[08:46] <giuseppe> how can I go in italian chat?
[08:46] <h3xis> Opermax, which card
[08:46] <Pici>  /join #ubuntu-it
[08:46] <steel_lady>  humanspecies, tell me what should I back up? win partition? why? if I told it not to touch win, why would it do that?
[08:46] <h3xis> Opermax, or chipset, rather
[08:46] <someothernick> !hcl
[08:46] <ubotwo> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:46] <Opermax> h3xis: DWL-G122 Rev. B 1 rt2570
[08:46] <giuseppe> where I must write this?
[08:46] <Opermax> h3xis: chipset rt2570
[08:46] <h3xis> Opermax, should work out of the box
[08:46] <Rio> Optimus i dont know the model
[08:46] <giuseppe> thanks very much
[08:46] <Pici> just type it where you are typing now
[08:46] <h3xis> Opermax, that is the rt25xx, no?
[08:46] <knight> h3xis: but i have tried it earlier also but didnt get
[08:46] <Optimus> rio -- who makes it
[08:47] <h3xis> knight, that is odd
[08:47] <Opermax> h3xis: yes
[08:47] <Rio> i believe its linksys....
[08:47] <mnoir> Rio: :)  1. Nothing is ever easy.  2.  The apache part is not that tough but routing issues can be bewildering
[08:47] <h3xis> Opermax, and it doesnt work? are you running edgy or what?
[08:47] <Azul> how can i search a file in a directory and subdirectories in a CLI?
[08:47] <Opermax> h3xis: I run Dapper 6.06 and I connect with 96% to my AP
[08:47] <knight> h3xis: ive seen from this harddisk that it is a high speed usb 2.0 harddisk
[08:47] <h3xis> Opermax, so what's wrong
[08:48] <Opermax> h3xis: But no datatransfe with WPA
[08:48] <Opermax> I send packages but receive non
[08:50] <h3xis> knight, i have no experience with udev, and it sounds like that might be your problem
[08:50] <Rio> mnoir...ahhh.....
[08:50] <h3xis> knight, i don't think it has anything to do with the udb driver
[08:50] <Opermax> h3xis: I followed HOWTO under ubuntu
[08:50] <h3xis> knight, er usb
[08:50] <knight> h3xis: i suppose my usb drive is of lower version is there anything like thta?
[08:50] <n2diy> I have an SSH problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[08:50] <h3xis> knight, i dont think so
[08:50] <h3xis> Opermax, maybe you should try the serial monkey drivers? the ubuntu ones may be bad
[08:50] <knight> h3xis:i doubt whether any drivers need to be installed to work for usb 2.0
[08:50] <Opermax> h3xis: I am using  serial monkey drivers
[08:50] <knight> h3xis: is it so?
[08:50] <h3xis> knight, no theyre in the kernel
[08:50] <h3xis> knight, but that isnt the issue
[08:50] <aufumy> Hi, any takers, updating to php5 using apt-get, and it mentions The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:50] <aufumy>   php5-mysql: Conflicts: php5-mysqli but 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4 is to be installed
[08:50] <aufumy>   php5-mysqli: Depends: phpapi-20051025
[08:50] <aufumy>                Depends: php5-mysql (= 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4) but 5.2.0-0.dotdeb.3 is to be installed
[08:50] <aufumy>                Depends: php5-common (= 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4) but 5.2.0-0.dotdeb.3 is  to be installed
[08:50] <aufumy> E: Broken packages
[08:50] <aufumy> oops
[08:50] <Una^> Hey, got a strange problem: My monitor supports 1680x1050 resolution, and xorg is loading correctly... however the sides of the screen are cut off until you move the mouse to scroll across. Any idea why?
[08:50] <h3xis> Opermax, oh wow, so dapper didnt detect it out of the box?
[08:50] <Rio> optimus, mnoir when i set up the router, it should be at tcp not udp, correct?
[08:51] <knight> h3xis: ive got other usb drives mounted easily but not this portable hardisk
[08:51] <Opermax> h3xis: it did but the HOWTO under ubuntu said it doesn't work and freezes the system
[08:52] <h3xis> knight, maybe bad disk?
[08:52] <oxigen> sorry, where can i download Edgy SMP 32bit? i cant find it, is available at all?
[08:52] <Rio> optimus, mnoir oh wait a sec... just saw what my bro did... he set it up so that the external port is 8181, and the internal port is still at 80.... should they both be at 8181?
[08:52] <Tonren> If I download the Ruby package, does it come with gem?
[08:52] <h3xis> Opermax, then maybe it is a wpasupplicant issue
[08:52] <rulus> oxigen: I thought edgy was smp by default
[08:52] <Mastastealth> oxigen: just download the regular Edgy Desktop CD 1386
[08:52] <h3xis> oxigen, the standard edgy x86 install has smp by default
[08:52] <knight> h3xis: no but i have just got it and till this time it was working
[08:53] <Opermax> h3xis: I don't even use wpasupplicant, since the driver should have with iwpriv
[08:53] <h3xis> knight, i honestly have no idea :/
[08:53] <oxigen> thank you guys! Mastastealth rulus & h3xis! :)
[08:53] <aufumy> leave #ubuntu
[08:53] <knight> h3xis: i cant get it mounted on windows also
[08:53] <Azul> aufumy, put a / before leave
[08:53] <h3xis> knight, so youre able to mount other drives, in windows and linux, but not this one?
[08:54] <knight> h3xis: yes
[08:54] <Optimus> Rio,  yes
[08:54] <aufumy> okay, thanks Azul
[08:54] <Azul> :)
[08:54] <h3xis> knight, it sounds like a bad disk
[08:54] <h3xis> knight, will it mount on other computers?
[08:54] <knight> h3xis: yes surely
[08:54] <rc-1> how do you get your system name in bash?
[08:55] <h3xis> knight, no idea
[08:55] <h3xis> rc-1, hostname
[08:55] <adaptr> rc-1: hostname
[08:55] <rc-1> thanks
[08:55] <n2diy> I have an SSH problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[08:55] <n2diy> is/isn't
[08:56] <Tonren> n2diy: When you say SSH, do you mean with the command line or VNC?
[08:56] <n2diy> Tonren, nautilus.
[08:56] <adaptr> n2diy: nautilus is not a remote display protocol :)
[08:56] <adaptr> at least - that I know of....
[08:56] <Tonren> n2diy: SSH means something very specific.  Are you connecting to a remote server with Nautilus?
[08:56] <knight> h3xis: anyway thank you bye
[08:57] <beuno> n2diy, you are trying to open the file how?
[08:57] <h3xis> knight, sorry
[08:57] <n2diy> adaptr, yes it is, hit ctrl-l, and enter ssh://user@ip
[08:57] <beuno> (remotely that is)
[08:57] <Optimus> rio -- any luck?
[08:57] <Rio> Optimus its taking awhile to change....
[08:57] <n2diy> bueno, double clicking it.
[08:57] <Opermax> h3xis: I don't even use wpasupplicant, since the driver should have with iwpriv
[08:57] <beuno> n2diy, the association is made on the client too
[08:57] <marcell_> I've tried to remove Gaim 2.0 beta 5 from my Ubuntu Dapper. with 'make distclean' but it cried for permissions, so i pressed Ctrl+C, then 'sudo make distclean' ----> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `distclean'.  Stop. - Can you help me?
[08:57] <Rio> Optims rather slow since im doing it through firefox ON ubuntu
[08:57] <beuno> so it probably is nautilus, but on the client side
[08:58] <beuno> n2diy, try "Open With"
[08:58] <h3xis> Opermax, i dont know then :/ i've never used iwpriv
[08:58] <adamonline> How do I get samba to start up on startup?  It's already in init.d
[08:58] <knight> h3xis: nothing like that thanks for the help offer
[08:58] <beuno> or right clicking on it, Properties > Open With
[08:58] <n2diy> beuno: no it is on the host box, but the remote box isn't picking it up.
[08:58] <n2diy> beuno, hmm, ok.
[08:58] <beuno> and setting gedit or whatever
[08:58] <h3xis> adamonline, sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[08:58] <h3xis> adamonline, then it should start up
[08:59] <adamonline> h3xis: How do I make it so after a reboot it will start up automatically?
[08:59] <beuno> n2diy, it doesn't matter what the host box has set, just the client (remote)
[08:59] <Pici> marcell_ : that means that distclean a valid command for make, can you check the INSTALL file that came with the gaim source for the correct syntax?
[08:59] <h3xis> adamonline, it will start up automatically
[09:00] <adamonline> h3xis: Alright... I had a feeling it would, but for some reason I just had to restart it to make it work... Thank you =)
[09:00] <giuseppe> ubuntu-it
[09:00] <adamonline> How do I find out which users are connected to my machine?
[09:00] <giuseppe> thanks :P
[09:00] <adamonline> er, not connected, but logged in?
  that was correct. I think the problem is that it cleared some files with user priviliges, than I interrupted it, so now it can't do anything :S Is it possible?
[09:01] <skvn> what does the command "sudo chmod 755 example" do?
[09:01] <Lynoure> adamonline: who  is a command for that.
[09:01] <beuno> skvn, it give write permission to the owner, and execute/read to groups and others
[09:01] <adamonline> Lynoure: Cool, thank you.  And idea why there would be 4 'adam's logged in?
[09:02] <skvn> ok, thanks beuno
[09:02] <Lynoure> adamonline: you have multiple terminals in use?
[09:02] <jaye> Does anyone know what MiB stands for? why is there an 'i' in the middle?
[09:02] <adamonline> Lynoure: One has :0, another pts/0, pts/1, and pts/4
[09:02] <beuno> skvn, np
[09:02] <adamonline> Lynoure: I do!
[09:02] <n2diy> beuno, gedit was an available option!? I had to add it manually, and then it showed up simply as "text editor", but it worked, tnx.
[09:02] <n2diy> was/wasn't
[09:02] <Lynoure> adamonline: :)
[09:03] <adamonline> Lynoure: hehheh all these silly little things I've yet to learn!  Thank you =)
[09:03] <Pici> marcell_ : sorry, I'm not sure how to repair that, perhaps someone else here could help you
[09:03] <beuno> n2diy, the options are added when you do it once, after that, it's always there
[09:03] <adamonline> Lynoure: Does that mean I could open another shell as a different user?
[09:03] <marcell_> Pici : ok, thx
[09:03] <Lynoure> adamonline: yes.
[09:03] <n2diy> beuno, ok.
[09:03] <adamonline> Lynoure: from my login? Hmmmm
[09:03] <econ426> who could I ask a question to?
[09:03] <adamonline> econ426: everyone
[09:03] <andysl> Hi everyone!  Does anyone know about the workspace switcher problem collapsing into just 1 workspace rather than 4 workspaces (edgy, beryl, gnome, ati, smp, 2.4.17, emerald)!
[09:04] <adamonline> !ask|econ426
[09:04] <ubotwo> con426: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:04] <n2diy> ! ask | econ426
[09:04] <andysl> (How to fix it)
[09:04] <thug> how do i enable 3d acceleration for VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[09:04] <ubotwo> econ426: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:04] <beuno> econ426, the question is not who to ask it to, the question is who will answer   ;)
[09:04] <ghee> hey guys, grub ? for you.  system= M$, edgy and blag.  edgy's grub is on its partition, blag's is on the mbr.  want to switch out blag for arch.  if i put arch's grub on its partition, can i manually configure grub/mbr to run everything?
[09:04] <Rio_> Optimus, mnoir sweet!!! it works now!!! THANKS FELLAS!!!!!
[09:04] <econ426> ok great...well I downloaded ubuntu and am running it off a live CD, but I can't get online because I connect using wireless with windows.  can I get ubuntu to recognize my wireless card?
[09:04] <adamonline> Lynoure: I'll look it up after work, thank you =)
[09:04] <Optimus> Rio, No prob bud, good luck
[09:04] <Lynoure> adamonline: Yes, or from the virtual console  ( alt+ctrl+f2 for example and alt+ctrl+f7 to get back)
[09:05] <adamonline> econ426: yes, but I hear it's a pain ;)
[09:05] <Lynoure> adamonline: or with  su
[09:05] <Traveler> is code::blocks in the repositories?
[09:05] <n2diy> I can ssh into my box, but everytime I open a file, I'm required to provide my password again. Seems redundant, is there a way to suppress that behavior?
[09:06] <Rio_> =)
[09:06] <preaction> Traveler: the Perl module? try libcode-blocks-perl, otherwise use cpan
[09:06] <humbolto> is there a way to get edgy ltsp into dapper?
[09:06] <sioux> news to run skypecasts on ubuntu?
[09:06] <Traveler> preaction: it's actually a C++ IDE
[09:07] <preaction> Traveler: use synaptic to search?
[09:07] <econ426> I have a widescreen monitor, but there is no option on ubuntu to run it in 1400x900 resolution.  is there a way to download an update or driver for that?
[09:07] <TooR4u> how to set broken packages?
[09:07] <TooR4u> & how to identify them?
[09:07] <ubotwo> TooR4u: Error: "how" is not a valid command.
[09:07] <steel_lady> now I can not boot win any more!!! it goes to grub and says Grub loading, pease wait... error 15
[09:07] <skvn> how do i delete the file "gdm.conf-custom" and replace it with the file "gdm.conf-custom-backup"?
[09:07] <TooR4u> ubotwo, means?
[09:07] <ubotwo> TooR4u: Error: "means?" is not a valid command.
[09:08] <mag_> where should I write
[09:08] <Traveler> preaction: i'm not at home
[09:08] <Traveler> !code::blocks
[09:08] <TooR4u> !broken pakcages
[09:08] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:08] <mag_> where should I write live noapic noalpic apic=off on the instalation ?
[09:08] <ph8> skvn: can't you do it through nautilus?
[09:09] <mag_> I can't install ubuntu on Dell poweredge Sc opteron AMD 64 can you help me !
[09:09] <mag_> I can't install ubuntu on Dell poweredge Sc opteron AMD 64 can you help me !
[09:09] <ph8> there's no need to repeat yourself mag_
[09:09] <oxigen> i forget command for bittorrent, how it is?
[09:09] <ph8> why don't you explain the problem?
[09:09] <mag_> ph8: yes.. sorry
[09:09] <thug> no one know how to enable 3d acceleration ?
[09:09] <ph8> oxigen: ls /usr/bin | grep bittorrent
[09:10] <Traveler> !opengl
[09:10] <ph8> thug: what card?
[09:10] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:10] <Traveler> !ati
[09:10] <oxigen> ph8: 10x! :)
[09:10] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <mag_> ph8: I can't install ubuntu.... it says booting the kernel and that's all ! the pc is stop
[09:10] <thug> ph8 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller
[09:10] <TooR4u> .
[09:10] <ph8> have you searched ubuntuforums for solutions mag?
[09:10] <ph8> thug: what do you actually have in the machine?
[09:10] <n2diy> I can ssh into my box, but everytime I open a file, I'm required to provide my password again. Seems redundant, is there a way to suppress that behavior?
[09:10] <Traveler> thug: should work automatically
[09:10] <mag_> ph8: yes...
[09:11] <skvn> Well it says that the file owner is root, and root has write permission, but i tried with root and it said that i'm not the owner and i cant change the permissions or something, and it doesn't let me rename it either
[09:11] <thug> ph8 what do you mean ?
[09:11] <preaction> n2diy: what do you mean every time you open a file? what program are you using to ssh?
[09:11] <ph8> have you tried the feisty snapshots mag?
[09:11] <ph8> it might be your architecture's not supported in dapper
[09:11] <ph8> thug: what is the actual card, rather than what ubuntu thinks it is - or is ubuntu recognising it correctly?
[09:11] <n2diy> preaction, when I double click the file, I'm prompted for a password. I'm using nautilus.
[09:11] <bartmon> hello to all
[09:11] <MenZa> Does anyone here know of a problem that lets you load the disk, tell it to start and then the install just crashes
[09:12] <mag_> ph8: so what should I do ?
[09:12] <preaction> n2diy: then you're not using ssh... is it samba or nfs?
[09:12] <ph8> [.: 20:11:39 :.]  <ph8> have you tried the feisty snapshots mag?
[09:12] <ph8> [.: 20:11:44 :.]  <ph8> it might be your architecture's not supported in dapper
[09:12] <skvn> aah actually nevermind.. it's a textfile so i can open the backup, copy it all and replace the current one with that :P
[09:12] <thug> ph8 ubuntu recognising it correctly
[09:12] <skvn> thanks anyway :-)
[09:12] <mnoir> Rio: now you can study up to answer the next routing question :)
[09:12] <n2diy> preaction, no, I'm using Nautilus, hit ctrl-l, and enter ssh://user@ip
[09:13] <preaction> n2diy: then it has to login every single time you decide you want a file, which is retarded for you to do. why does nautilus have this "feature"?
[09:13] <steel_lady> geeeeeez I have some terrible problem buffer I/O error om hdb logical block... squashfs error unable to read or fragment cache block unable to read page...
[09:13] <preaction> n2diy: set up samba, or nfs, or something that's meant to do what you want
[09:14] <mnoir> Optimus: with Rio i missed one thing - did you have him disable listen 80 or just add 8181?
[09:14] <n2diy> preaction, I don't know, that is what I'm trying to stop.
[09:14] <steel_lady> it wrote the whole page of these errors
[09:14] <steel_lady> heeeelp!!!
[09:14] <ghatak> Hi guys, i cant get java to work with Opera, the applets do not work, do i need to do anything specific ?
[09:14] <mag_> ph8: can you help me ?
[09:14] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:14] <Optimus> mnoir, I'm pretty sure I had him disable it
[09:14] <n2diy> preaction, ok, what would you suggest, it is a totally Ubuntu network.
[09:14] <preaction> n2diy: i meant the idea of using ssh/scp to interact with another file system... does it recognize windows computers while you're at it?
[09:14] <Optimus> Rio, did you disable port 80 in your apache.conf/ports.conf?
[09:15] <preaction> n2diy: personally, i've always liked samba better
[09:15] <ph8> mag: i asked you a question! twice now
[09:15] <ph8> are you using a dapper install cd?
[09:15] <n2diy> preaction, I don't have any winder boxes, so should I still setup samba?
[09:15] <kuma> hi :) I want to make that a folder link to another location
[09:15] <mnoir> Optimus: ois - would it not have worked if he left apache alone but just forwarded 8181 to 80 at the router?
[09:15] <mnoir> ois=oh - I see :)
[09:16] <n2diy> ! samba
[09:16] <ubotwo> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:16] <preaction> n2diy: why not? unless you want file permissions to transfer as well
[09:16] <steel_lady> optimus, please help me I think I will commit suicide
[09:16] <mag_> sorry it's many peolple and my irc erase the entries
[09:16] <Optimus> steel_lady, well, don't do that
[09:16] <mag_> ph8: could you ask you again ?
[09:16] <ghatak> !java
[09:16] <ubotwo> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:16] <Optimus> steel_lady, what's wrong? I gather you got the partitions worked out
[09:17] <n2diy> preaction, I might as well go with samba, I bound to encounter a winders box someday. :) Samba doesn't transfer permissions?
[09:17] <steel_lady> optimus, it was frozen in the middle of installing and then I got black screen, after 3 hours i had to restart it and now I tried to bood from live CD again and it is writing cache errors all over my screen
[09:17] <preaction> n2diy: the SMB protocol doesn't know what file permissions are. there are still user credentials, but no file owner, file group, rwx bits, etc...
[09:17] <ph8> mag_: are you using a dapper install cd?
[09:18] <kuma> hi :) I want to make that a folder link to another location
[09:18] <steel_lady> Optimus it says buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block...
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 -!- Rio [n=juarez@ip72-197-179-208.sd.sd.cox.net]  has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 < n2diy> preaction, ok, what would you suggest, it is a totally Ubuntu network.
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 -!- cerridwen [n=cerridwe@debiancenter/developer/cerridwen]  has joined #ubuntu
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 < preaction> n2diy: i meant the idea of using ssh/scp to interact with another file system... does it recognize windows computers while you're at it?
[09:18] <n2diy> preaction, ok, so I need to go DL samba and swat?
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 -!- kuma [n=kuma@201.236.206.241]  has joined #ubuntu
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 < Optimus> Rio, did you disable port 80 in your apache.conf/ports.conf?
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 < preaction> n2diy: personally, i've always liked samba better
[09:18] <mag_> 14:15 -!- temba [n=oktoba@e177160150.adsl.alicedsl.de]  has joined #ubuntu
[09:18] <preaction> !ops
[09:18] <mag_> 14:16 -!- Traveler is now known as ademan_
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[09:18] <mag_> 14:16 < ph8> mag: i asked you a question! twice now
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[09:19] <preaction> thanks LjL
[09:19] <kuma> anohter kuma :O
[09:19] <steel_lady> Optimus, first how do I stop it, it is going crazy!
[09:19] <n2diy> preaction, ok, so I need to go DL samba and swat?
[09:19] <Optimus> steel_lady, so long as you haven't touched the NTFS partition, just restart the computer
[09:19] <mag_> 14:15 -!- temba [n=oktoba@e177160150.adsl.alicedsl.de]  has joined #ubuntu
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[09:19] <preaction> n2diy: actually if you're using ubuntu, go to System > Shared Folders, and it will ask if you want to set up samba and/or nfs
[09:20] <steel_lady> Optimus I didn't but something went very wrong with hardware
[09:20] <kuma> hi :) I want to make that a folder link to another location
[09:20] <n2diy> preaction, ok, tnx.
[09:20] <CheshireViking_> has anybody come across software that will open MS Publisher files in Linux, I've done some searches but I can't find anything, I've tried Scribus etc but no joy, the best i've come across is a web based .pub to pdf converter
[09:20] <preaction> n2diy: make that System > Administration > Shared Folders
[09:20] <Optimus> steel_lady, can you restart the computer and boot to windows?
[09:20] <n2diy> preaction, I found it.
[09:21] <preaction> kuma: nautilus provides a way to make symlinks, otherwise `man ln` at a terminal
[09:21] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: bad news - pub is the one that has no converter that we have found
[09:21] <gh0st> help, my boot-screen is not showing anymore !
[09:21] <steel_lady> Optimus, I can not boot windows any more although I didn't touch ntfs
[09:21] <LjL> mag_: i'm sure that was a mistake, but be careful, pastes like that are clearly not welcome. p47 even
[09:21] <kuma> preaction thanks
[09:21] <helpme> hey, quick question, what is the command to open up "Disks" in terminal?
[09:21] <steel_lady> Optimus, it obviously tried to put grub and something went wrong
[09:21] <mnoir> helpme: what do you mean?
[09:22] <p47> LjL: ?
[09:22] <Optimus> steel_lady, make a folder in your home directory called cmount and then type the following: sudo mount /dev/hda1 ~/cmount
[09:22] <LjL> p47: "?" to you.... did you not notice that you pasted a crapload of IRC log lines into this channel, and you only stopped because you were muted?
[09:22] <p47> ph8: I downloaded this : ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso , ubuntu-6.10-server-amd64.iso , ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso AND i GOT THE SAME PROBLEM
[09:22] <helpme> Under Administration, there's the Disks application for mounting disks.... I'm in a mint live disk and the option is not there, but i need to mount linux partition so I can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:22] <LjL> p47: (and later removed, after seeing the paste wasn't finished yet)
[09:22] <steel_lady> optimus from where could I do that? I can not boot anything!
[09:23] <CheshireViking_> mnoir: that was the conclusion i'd come to, i was just hoping i was wrong - maybe next step is to track down a way of being able to open a pdf file & edit it
[09:23] <p47> LjL: I don't understand you ?
[09:23] <Optimus> steel_lady, the LiveCD
[09:23] <steel_lady> Optimus I can not even boot from live CD
[09:23] <Optimus> steel_lady, what is the make and model of the laptop?
[09:23] <gh0st> help, my boot-screen is not showing anymore ! (the screen where the loading bar shows the boot progress) Instead there is the normal linux one with all the starting programs etc... what can i do?
[09:23] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: that one is gonna cost you :)
[09:23] <steel_lady> Dell Latitude optimus, some old version
[09:23] <helpme> anyone?
[09:23] <p47> LjL: can  you help me with my server ?
[09:24] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: on pub, we found the best way was to open openoffice and pub on windows, cut and paste and fixup
[09:24] <p47> ph8: are you here ?
[09:24] <Optimus> steel_lady, look on the bottom label and get me the exact model number
[09:24] <gh0st> helpme: mount
[09:24] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: btw - oo write does more, and better than pub
[09:24] <helpme> i'm not familiar with it
[09:24] <CheshireViking_> mnoir : that was one solution i'd seen
[09:24] <helpme> or is that it
[09:24] <LjL> p47: then here are the logs of what happened: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2168/
[09:24] <gh0st> helpme: is it a windows disk?
[09:25] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: the upside: my wife wouldn't go back to msdos stuff if i paid her
[09:25] <steel_lady> Optimus, latitude c840
[09:25] <helpme> no, just need to edit menu.lst I messed it up now can't get grub up
[09:25] <bilss_> hi
[09:25] <CheshireViking_> mnoir : i'm happy using oo write, trouble is i'm not creating the .pub files, its a windows user that creates them
[09:25] <helpme> I'm familiar with the graphical disk mounter
[09:25] <bilss_> any one use bestcrypt
[09:25] <kuma> is this correct? ln any_directory -t target_directory?
[09:25] <gh0st> helpme: normally, it should automount
[09:26] <p47> LjL: I don't understand... what did I do ?
[09:26] <timo> dose any one know how to use the obextool
[09:26] <helpme> in a live disk?
[09:26] <LjL> p47: look at those logs, i think it's clear. you paste a crapload of stuff as i said
[09:26] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: i understand - and there is no technical solution that i have found.  converting the win usr to oo write is not feasible?
[09:26] <gh0st> helpme: yes
[09:26] <preaction> n2diy: i forgot one more thing that nothing ever mentions: as root, you must set up a samba password for the users you want to use samba. `man smbpasswd` to learn how
[09:26] <wolfeySI> hell guys, suddently apache is started instead of apache2
[09:26] <steel_lady> optimus, i am going down to check if somebody has another live CD
[09:27] <wolfeySI> hello i mean
[09:27] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay
[09:27] <helpme> could someone please just go into Administration, and drag the Disks icon over to the desktop so it will create a normal launcher, and then right click that and hit properties and tell me what it has in the command box?
[09:27] <CheshireViking_> mnoir: I'd swear, but, its not the place for it here, maybe i'll try installing publisher under wine
[09:27] <p47> LjL: ok.. but what is the problem ? I don't know the problem
[09:27] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: pub is a half-donkeyed attempt at dtp that should never have been perpetrated
[09:27] <helpme> I don't want some huge disertation on the the values of using mount via the command line... i just need to know what that command is, and I'm out of your hair
[09:27] <gh0st> helpme: normally mounting a ext3 is disk goes like that: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdax /mnt/mountpoint
[09:27] <n2diy> preaction, ok, shared folders initiated the DL, so I'm waiting for it to finish.
[09:28] <LjL> p47: the problem is that pasting a crapload of stuff into the channel is NOT appreciated, that's the problem. it's quite simple really
[09:28] <CheshireViking_> mnoir: yep, it had its uses when all i used was windows, now i've learn't better habits :)
[09:28] <timo> i want to  file out more about obextool ,how do i  do this in the terminal
[09:28] <gh0st> helpme: where x in hda is the number of your disk
[09:28] <p47> haaaa... LjL soory my english is very poor but now I understand.. I'm really sorry !
[09:28] <gh0st> helpme: let's start: first type mount in command, only that
[09:28] <helpme> god... save me from these geeks
[09:29] <kuma> lol
[09:29] <helpme> screw it.
[09:29] <mnoir> CheshireViking_: before you spend hours on wine, make sure ipub will work in it - the wine site is good for that
[09:29] <LjL> p47: that's ok, just don't do it again please.
[09:29] <black_abaddon> helpme: i agree
[09:29] <gh0st> help me: you can only mount something when you what it is
[09:29] <gh0st> dam"
[09:29] <black_abaddon> i come here only to trall
[09:29] <black_abaddon> i am a troller
[09:29] <Linuxkrn|wrk> ok, I've tried three versions of ubuntu, two different boxes and both are flaky with network connections.  Ping works, ifconfig shows up but many system apps like update/firefox/etc cannot connect.
[09:29] <mnoir> !ops
[09:29] <ubotwo> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:29] <steel_lady> Optimus, I found another CD, trying to boot
[09:29] <helpme> gh0st:in a graphical application, its very easy to see what you're looking for
[09:29] <kuma> p47: what do u speak?
[09:29] <mnoir> sorry ops
[09:30] <CheshireViking_> mnoir: i was just in the middle of heading over there to have a look
[09:30] <Optimus> steel_lady, okay
[09:30] <p47> kuma: spanish ! :P
[09:30] <helpme> !mount
[09:30] <gh0st> helpme: whatever, type "mount"
[09:30] <ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:30] <DBO> mnoir, its ok, lgl is just too fast for you
[09:30] <kuma> p47: yo tambien, cual es tu problema?
[09:30] <Tron`> Hello
[09:30] <nwonknu-> Hello
[09:30] <cokeslut> hello
[09:30] <DBO> s/lgl/ljl/
[09:30] <LjL> heh
[09:30] <humbolto> does edubuntu use the same repos as ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu use?
[09:30] <helpme> !DiskMounter
[09:30] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:30] <ambimom> helpme:  checkout linus reality website...has specific instructions
[09:30] <gh0st> helpme: type mount, tell me the name of the partition/disk ad i give you the command
[09:30] <ambimom> linux reality...sorry
[09:31] <LjL> p47: as for your problem, i think too that you should try noapic and acpi=off. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions for how to do that
[09:31] <mnoir> humbolto: yes
[09:31] <p47> kuma: ayudame jaja ! es que no puedo instalar ubuntu en un servidor
[09:31] <humbolto> mnoir: so edubuntu is just another virtual package?
[09:31] <helpme> nevermind... i have a normal live disk... its got it on there
[09:31] <kuma> how can I ln between directories? I tried this sudo ln any_directory -t target_directory -s but i get "operation don't permited"
[09:31] <nwonknu-> fun
[09:31] <cokeslut> out of interest
[09:31] <Tron`> that's a secret
[09:32] <MenZa> Shouldn't burning the disk at 7x be slow enough?
[09:32] <helpme> adios.... command line isn't for everyone
[09:32] <kuma> p47: Y cual es el problema? pues, algo ms especifico
[09:32] <mnoir> humbolto: virtual is not exactly the right word - much work was done making it work with thin client and optimized software choices
[09:32] <p47> kuma: mira... el problema es que ya baje lo sig:
[09:32] <gh0st> helpme: well i you typed mount and told me the partiton name YOU WOULD BE DONE
[09:33] <p47> kuma: ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso, ubuntu-6.10-server-amd64.iso, ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso y en la instalacion la pc de congela diciendo booting the kernel y con los 3 cds me da mlo mismos
[09:33] <humbolto> mnoir: virtual package, isn't that the exact dpkg term?
[09:33] <Optimus> steel_lady, any luck?
[09:33] <steel_lady> Optimus, it booted from the new CD, I am going to try another installation
[09:33] <kuma> p47: muerta muerta? cuanto tiempo la dejaste congelada?
[09:34] <gh0st> so does any one know why a boot-screen is not showing anymore ?! (the screen where the loading bar shows the boot progress) Instead there is the normal linux one with all the starting programs etc... what can i do?
[09:34] <MenZa> !es
[09:34] <ubotwo> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:34] <p47> kuma: opufff pues como 30 in
[09:34] <kuma> p47: Ya escuchaste a ubotwo :P
[09:34] <ubuntu> hello
[09:34] <humbolto> do the server install cds support LVM and md?
[09:34] <CheshireViking_> mnoir: looking at the app database, i haven't got much hope, bill gates has got a lot to answer for
[09:34] <mnoir> humbolto: I didn't think so - edubuntu is a set of packages like ubuntu or kubuntu.  maybe your right but it does not sound right to me.  It is not just a meta-package
[09:34] <LVEB> Hello
[09:34] <steel_lady> Optimus, I can not understand what was happening with CD, it was original, perfectly new without scratching
[09:34] <ubuntu> i need a exampleentry for my new grub.conf have anybody fast a nopaste for me?
[09:35] <p47> kuma: si.. incluso ya hice lo que me dijo en la pagina que me dijo que en el boot options pusiera vga=771 pero no pasa nada la pantalla se queda negra
[09:35] <mnoir> !es |p47
[09:35] <Optimus> steel_lady, I have had bizzarre things happen with perfectly good CDs -- still not sure why it happens, but it happens
[09:35] <ubotwo> 47: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:35] <_Sean> !es
[09:35] <ubotwo> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:35] <kuma> p47: entra a #ubuntu-es
[09:35] <kuma> how can I ln between directories? I tried this sudo ln any_directory -t target_directory -s but i get "operation don't permited"
[09:36] <section31> what happened to proftpd i can't seem to find it using apt-cache search
[09:36] <niella> aha, i got 2.6.20-rc5 going
[09:36] <p47> kuma: es que no saben por eso entre aqui.. pero no importa... we can speak in english !
[09:36] <niella> finally, a kernel that doesnt crash when i plug my cellphone in
[09:36] <bur[n] er> kuma: sudo ln -s
[09:36] <ubuntu> hmpf please can anybody make: cat /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[09:36] <mnoir> kuma: is is across filesystems - hard links only work within a file system
[09:36] <Linuxkrn|wrk> ok, I've tried three versions of ubuntu, two different boxes and both are flaky with network connections.  Ping works, ifconfig shows up but many system apps like update/firefox/etc cannot connect.  I've checked and the computer is not even trying to get out (tcpdump on firewall)  this only happens on ubuntu
[09:36] <Delux_247> section31: proftpd sux, try pure-ftpd
[09:36] <niella> ubuntu: what exactly are you looking for?
[09:37] <bur[n] er> ubuntu: copy it from the livecd?   reinstall via live cd & chroot?
[09:37] <LVEB> A quoi ca peut servir d'executer un programme c comme un script ?
[09:37] <Sicaine> sry
[09:37] <mnoir> !fr | LVEB
[09:37] <LjL> !fr | LVEB
[09:37] <ubotwo> LVEB: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:37] <kuma> mnoir: is across filesystems, y used the symbolic option before and still nothing
[09:37] <steel_lady> optimus, mous went crazy, it hit in top right corner and does not let me work
[09:37] <un4get> !help hydra
[09:37] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:37] <Sicaine> i dont find any grub.conf on the livecdboot.(im atm in the livecd)
[09:37] <kuma> bur[n] er: already tried with -s
[09:37] <humbolto> mnoir: not just but it is available as such and it's installation is managed that way. It is a full distro like kubuntu, ... but it resides in the *buntu package repos.
[09:37] <gh0st> so does any one know why a boot-screen is not showing anymore ?! (the screen where the loading bar shows the boot progress) Instead there is the normal linux one with all the starting programs etc... what can i do?
[09:37] <un4get> !help hydra-gtk
[09:38] <bur[n] er> kuma: man ls ;)
[09:38] <mnoir> humbolto: ok - you win :)
[09:38] <kuma> p47: Pues yo tampoco se xD, en fin, si necesitas ayuda con ingles me puedes preguntar :)
[09:38] <Sicaine> i need only the entry for booting the ubuntu. i cant find any kernelimg in /boot so i have no idea how it must look like
[09:38] <kuma> bur[n] er: I come from there
[09:38] <p47> kuma: jajajok ! gracias !
[09:38] <niella> you need to fix your bootsplash
[09:38] <humbolto> mnoir: was there something to win? what is the reward? :)
[09:39] <LVEB> I'm sorry, i was mistaken
[09:40] <Sicaine> its so difficult to send me a grub.conf from a running ubuntusystem? : |
[09:40] <smoo2> how do I install the nvidia 3d drivers in 6.10
[09:40] <mnoir> humbolto: actually, edubuntu (one word) is not a meta package.  edubuntu usually refers to the distribution variant, not a package.
[09:40] <quitte> hallo?
[09:40] <humbolto> mnoir: I am just wondering if it makes any sense to download the edubuntu installer cds if I already have the ubuntu ones.
[09:41] <davmor2> timo sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:41] <Sicaine> !de
[09:41] <humbolto> mnoir: so, you win!
[09:41] <ubotwo> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:42] <n2diy> preaction, ok, the DL is done, what folders do you recommend I share?
[09:42] <mnoir> humbolto: that is a good question.  I doubt it BUT if you are really going to do classroom installs, the cd is probably a good idea, to assure the cleanliness of the excersize
[09:42] <Najjstroem^_-> Why don't i need any firewall in ubuntu/linux
[09:42] <LjL> uh? what did i type
[09:42] <preaction> n2diy: depends on how paranoid you are, I end up sharing (and allowing write access) to every folder I normally access from sitting at the terminal. the cdrom drive, my home directory, and my extra hard drives
[09:43] <smoo2> i have nvidia-glx installed but i dont think it is working
[09:43] <Mastastealth> !firewall
[09:43] <n2diy> Najjstroem^_-: Strong passwords, and good permission schemes protect you.
[09:43] <ubotwo> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:43] <kuma> how can I ln between directories? I tried this sudo ln any_directory -t target_directory -s but i get "operation don't permited"
[09:43] <davmor2> timo have you enabled it
[09:43] <un4get> !hydra
[09:43] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:43] <humbolto> mnoir: I am just interested in the ltsp stuff and wondering, if they manage the installation more convenient with their installer cd.
[09:43] <Steve_GPent3> Hi
[09:43] <n2diy> preaction, ok, I'll have to play around and experiment, tnx.
[09:43] <niekie> !kvm
[09:44] <preaction> kuma: ln -s <directory that exists> <directory that will be a link to the previous directory>
[09:44] <Steve_GPent3> i ma having some DVD Problems
[09:44] <smoo2> davmor2: how do you enable it?
[09:44] <Linuxkrn|wrk> ok, I've tried three versions of ubuntu, two different boxes and both are flaky with network connections.  Ping works, ifconfig shows up but many system apps like update/firefox/etc cannot connect.  I've checked and the computer is not even trying to get out (tcpdump on firewall)  this only happens on ubuntu
[09:44] <mnoir> kuma: that syntax is improper - you are specifying a hard link and some random parameters that MUST be before your directories
[09:44] <Steve_GPent3> I cannot mount a DVD, even as data. The disc is new
[09:44] <p_ibvibkib> gfg
[09:44] <Judicata> Linuxkrn|wrk: what distro works?
[09:44] <preaction> n2diy: remember that when you make a smbpasswd for a user, samba authenticates as that user, so that anything done on the filesystem is done as that user. so permissions are checked, read/write/execute bits are checked, (they just aren't transferred to another compy)
[09:44] <mnoir> humbolto: dunno - i bet they do because of the intended audience.  why don't you try it and then tell me?
[09:44] <kuma> preaction & mnoir: both directories must exist, right?
[09:45] <preaction> kuma: no, the second one must not
[09:45] <Steve_GPent3> bgb
[09:45] <Linuxkrn|wrk> Judicata: gentoo, centos, and suse all worked fine
[09:45] <mnoir> kuma: absolutely not - the actual new link must not
[09:45] <gh0st> i have lost my boot-splash-screen
[09:45] <humbolto> mnoir: I might. Will try to find out in #edubuntu first.
[09:45] <davmor2> timo:  first sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/mybackup.conf incase things go wrong.   second  sudo nvidia-xo
[09:45] <Najjstroem^_-> n2diy: so a strong password will help me better
[09:45] <mnoir> humbolto: bon voyage :)
[09:45] <n2diy> preaction, ok, what was the command again to create the samba passwd?
[09:46] <davmor2> timo sorry hit wrong button second type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:46] <preaction> n2diy: man smbpasswd, you'll want to do it as root to create a new samba user
[09:46] <Sicaine> shit my /boot have no kernelimage. thats normal?
[09:46] <kuma> prection: so how do i make a link between directories? like "Examples" in the /home/ directory
[09:46] <Judicata> Linuxkrn|wrk: you might try disabling ipv6, but it could have to do with the driver ubuntu uses for your card. Honestly, i'm not sure though.
[09:46] <Najjstroem^_-> Where can i change the password for root and login???
[09:46] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Sicaine
[09:46] <ubotwo> Sicaine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:46] <humbolto> mnoir: merci beaucoup.
[09:46] <n2diy> Najjstroem^_-: yes, and you can set up a firewall if you want, check out Firestarter.
[09:46] <steel_lady> optimus, if this was windows I would say that this computer has some very bad virus
[09:46] <mnoir> humbolto: de nada
[09:46] <Sicaine> come on PriceChild ...
[09:46] <preaction> kuma: cd /home/kuma; ln -s Examples Examples-link; ls -l Examples-link
[09:47] <defend> any one here use a kernel with out a initrd?
[09:47] <preaction> kuma: the ls -l should show that Examples-link -> Examples
[09:47] <Najjstroem^_-> Where can i change the password for root and login???
[09:47] <humbolto> mnoir: I'll tell you what I found out next time I'll see you. "De nada" is not very french however.
[09:47] <PriceChild> Sicaine, please :) There is absolutely no reason for expletetives
[09:47] <davmor2> timo then hit alt-ctrl-backspace
[09:47] <preaction> !root Najjstroem^_-
[09:47] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:47] <mwe> defend: yeah
[09:47] <preaction> !sudo Najjstroem^_-
[09:47] <n2diy> preaction, ok, so sudo smbpasswd darryl should work?
[09:47] <davmor2> you should see an nvidia sign
[09:47] <Sicaine> PriceChild: ... whatever can you help me?
[09:47] <humbolto> mnoir: "de rien" would fit better
[09:47] <Najjstroem^_-> =)
[09:47] <mnoir> humbolto: do let me know - i am curious but lazy :)  and it wasn't meant to be french :)
[09:47] <Optimus> steel_lady, you will probably have to use the keyboard then
[09:48] <kuma> prection: oh, i get it :P
[09:48] <mnoir> humbolto: tak
[09:48] <kuma> prection: will try now
[09:48] <Anthon1> I installed ubuntu to dual boot with windows, and now I can only get windows to boot. When I try to boot ubuntu the screen goes blank, and slowly displays lines of color
[09:48] <Sicaine> i looked after /usr/src for a kernelimage what i can copy to the /bootpartition but nothing. i have no idear
[09:48] <davmor2> timo did you follow that
[09:48] <preaction> n2diy: Try It And See (tias)
[09:48] <defend> FN~mwe, i am having horrible troubles trying to get away from initrd files .. everytime i boot i get VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) any ideas
[09:48] <Sicaine> have ubunutlivecd a grubrepairtool?
[09:48] <n2diy> preaction, :)
[09:48] <_Sean> What is the command to create a file?
[09:48] <preaction> n2diy: and if you have problems, #samba has been helpful for me
[09:48] <Sicaine> touch
[09:49] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with getting sound to work?
[09:49] <Zaggynl> !sound
[09:49] <ubotwo> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:49] <mnoir> _Sean: for what purpose?
[09:49] <AbeLincoln> Hi. Whenever I restart my computer I have to reconfigure ndiswrapper to work. Where do I put the shell script to load on boot?
[09:49] <Sicaine> !grub
[09:49] <ubotwo> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:49] <_Sean> ty
[09:49] <Sicaine> nice
[09:49] <n2diy> preaction, ok that is done, now back to sharing stuff.
[09:49] <Anthon1> I think I have a graphics problem, but can't get ubuntu to boot to fix it, any suggestions?
[09:50] <mwe> defend: well, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and verify it's correct. it shouldn't have an initrd= entry for your kernel
[09:50] <yellow> hey guys
[09:50] <yellow> how come setenv does not work ?
[09:50] <un4get> !nessus
[09:50] <davmor2> vleon ubuntu should boot you to command line if it load x
[09:50] <ubotwo> nessus - Remote network security auditor, the client - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[09:50] <kuma> prection: yay, it worked, thanks :)
[09:51] <n2diy> preaction, I shared my home directory with NFS, how do I get to it from my remote box?
[09:51] <mwe> yellow: it doesn't ?
[09:51] <yellow> nope
[09:51] <mnoir> yellow: what shell?
[09:51] <yellow> bash
[09:51] <yellow> dapper
[09:51] <recon> Does anybody know how to make fceu run a bit faster?
[09:51] <mwe> yellow: well what do you want to do?
[09:51] <preaction> n2diy: with NFS you have to mount it iirc, with samba there's auto-discovery
[09:52] <timo> can any use  ussp-push
[09:52] <yellow> i want to set my java_home environment
[09:52] <mnoir> yellow: as i recall, setenv belonged to csh and it's derivatives.  i think you want to look at export
[09:52] <yellow> i installed the stand alone jdk.1.6.0
[09:52] <preaction> n2diy: try Menu > Places > Network Servers
[09:52] <yellow> that doesn't work
[09:52] <mwe> yellow: export jave_home=foo will work
[09:52] <n2diy> preaction, Ok, can I share it with both protocols, or is it one or the other?
[09:52] <timo> its says "Usage: ussp-push [--dev DEVID]  [--timeo TIMEO]  [--debug]  {DEVICE, BTADDR@[BTCHAN] } LFILE RFILE
[09:52] <defend> FN~mwe, i dont
[09:52] <preaction> n2diy: both will work probably
[09:52] <n2diy> preaction, ok and ok.
[09:52] <mwe> defend: I don't know then
[09:53] <defend> FN~mwe, i have done this in gentoo and debian i just have never been able to do it ubuntu
[09:53] <erster> hi
[09:53] <Yggdrasil> heyllo can somone help me , im trying to clone a hard drive that has windows and linux on it. to another hard drive. using dd ?
[09:54] <timo> can any one obex a file to a mibile device ? with bluetooth
[09:54] <mwe> defend: I see. Personally I'm using a kernel without an initrd
[09:54] <yellow> it says the path is  not a valid identifier
[09:54] <erster> jhhg
[09:54] <HymnToLife> Yggdrasil, partimage might be more appropriate
[09:54] <davmor2> vleon dd yes
[09:54] <HymnToLife> !partimage | Yggdrasil
[09:54] <ubotwo> partimage - backup partitions into a compressed image file - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[09:54] <Yggdrasil> intersting
[09:54] <yellow> mwe,  it says the path is  not a valid identifier
[09:55] <mwe> yellow: what says that?
[09:55] <yellow> bash: export: `/home/rat/webdev/jdk1.6.0': not a valid identifier
[09:55] <p47> When I wirte
[09:55] <erster> uizi8uiu
[09:55] <p47> when I write noapic noalpic apic=off the server is freeze ! why ?
[09:55] <mnoir> yellow: the syntax is export variable=value
[09:55] <mwe> yellow: export JAVA_HOME=/home/rat/webdev/jdk1.6.0
[09:56] <mwe> yellow: probably not java_home. it's case sensitive
[09:56] <jeanjean_> how do you have to make a python script executable ?
[09:56] <HymnToLife> jeanjean_, chmod +x
[09:56] <mwe> jeanjean_: chmod +x fill
[09:57] <mwe> fk
[09:57] <yellow> thanks mwe
[09:57] <mwe> j
[09:57] <jeanjean_> I can run it with python now, but i need to run it with sh
[09:58] <jrib> jeanjean_: chmod +x
[09:58] <mwe> jeanjean_: sh file.sh
[09:58] <jrib> jeanjean_: make sure you have a python shebang
[09:58] <Sicaine> holy shit the link was good. i will look if it helps. cya
[09:58] <Sicaine> quit
[09:58] <HymnToLife> jeanjean_, ./file.py
[09:58] <HymnToLife> not sh
[09:58] <p47> can you help me with the installation ? the installations was freeze !
[09:58] <jeanjean_> then i get this error: line 4: import: command not found
[09:59] <erster> hui
[09:59] <mwe> HymnToLife: sh file.sh should work if it's correct
[09:59] <jrib> jeanjean_: do you have a python shebang?
[09:59] <jeanjean_> dont think so
[09:59] <HymnToLife> mwe, for Python scripts, too ?
[09:59] <jrib> jeanjean_: the first line should be #!/usr/bin/env python
[09:59] <HymnToLife> didn't know, I always do ./file.py
[09:59] <jeanjean_> jrib I've got that line
[10:00] <davmor2> kuma do ls -l on the file and make sure it is executable
[10:00] <jrib> jeanjean_: he I guess you can't do sh then
[10:00] <POVaddct> !grub
[10:00] <ubotwo> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:00] <HymnToLife> jeanjean_, have you tried ./file.py instead of sh ?
[10:01] <jeanjean_> yeah but still the same error
[10:01] <jrib> jeanjean_: pastebin your script
[10:01] <mwe> HymnToLife: maybe your'e right. chmod +x and ./file.sh should at least work providing it's a valid file
[10:01] <mwe> HymnToLife: file.py I mean
[10:02] <n2diy> preaction, ok it's up and working, but....  I'm still being prompted for a password when I open a file.
[10:02] <jeanjean_> jrib, it give's error on this line: "import dbus"
[10:03] <jrib> jeanjean_: what error
[10:03] <preaction> n2diy: it should prompt you for a password once, it should ask if you want to save the password in your keyring, and then it should stop asking
[10:03] <jeanjean_> 4: import: not found
[10:03] <jrib> jeanjean_: k, pastebin the script
[10:03] <n2diy> preaction, ok let me play around with it some more.
[10:03] <preaction> n2diy: is the gnome keyring manager working?
[10:03] <n2diy> preaction, not sure, I haven't seen it yet.
[10:04] <erster> hi
[10:04] <section31> when i shared a directory with samba and tried to access it on my windows machine its password protected...yet my user/pass doesn't work
[10:04] <lamego> section31, you need to add a samba user with: sudo smbpasswd
[10:04] <Pommie> section31 : Samba passwords can be managed independant of the UNIX passwords.
[10:04] <mwe> as a last resort python ./foo.py will work
[10:05] <jeanjean_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2173/
[10:05] <raveneye> damn i wanted to say that. typing with a cig in one and a beer in the other is just too slow
[10:05] <erster> kkk
[10:05] <jeanjean_> jrib, but it works when I run the script with python
[10:05] <mnoir> raveneye: drinking with a keyboard involved is too slow :)
[10:05] <erster> hi
[10:06] <Pommie> mnoir : Unless you have a feed tube already put down your throat.
[10:06] <swx> I would like to access to harddrive config to mount win partitions pour the option is not present in System > admin menu, can you help?
[10:06] <mnoir> Pommie: :)
[10:06] <amigrave> what is the most unofficial but still "reliable" apt source for w32codecs & libdvdcss2 stuff ?
[10:06] <wizo> hey, is it possible to install ubuntu onto a external hard disk?
[10:06] <erster> ii
[10:07] <jrib> jeanjean_: works fine here, what is the exact command you are typing?
[10:07] <mwe> !w32codecs | amigrave
[10:07] <ubotwo> amigrave: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[10:07] <steel_lady> optimus, installation went fine, I just can not use any mouse
[10:07] <jrib> amigrave: the most unofficial?
[10:07] <Pommie> amigrave: You could try something called Automatix. That's pretty unofficial. :-P
[10:07] <amigrave> jrib: ;-) most reliable
[10:07] <mwe> !automatix
[10:07] <jeanjean_> jrib, ./rhythmbox.py
[10:07] <ubotwo> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:07] <raveneye> what kind of mouse do you have usb/ps2/serial?
[10:07] <amigrave> ubotwo: thanks
[10:08] <ubotwo> amigrave: Error: "thanks" is not a valid command.
[10:08] <amigrave> !codecs
[10:08] <ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <swx> I would like to access to harddrive config to mount win partitions but the option is not present in System > admin menu, can you help?
[10:08] <amigrave> mwe: thanks
[10:08] <jrib> jeanjean_: I don't know, you've stumped me
[10:08] <Li`lEndian> hi, accidentally borked the system by installing the beta nvidia drivers.
[10:08] <jrib> unless your python is actually a bash shell in disguise -_-
[10:08] <Li`lEndian> how do i restore it back to the previous drivers?
[10:08] <Judicata> swx: you need to edit your /etc/fstab
[10:08] <Li`lEndian> would copying back sources.list and updating help?
[10:08] <Pommie> For the record, Automatix worked for me. YMMV.
[10:09] <mwe> Pommie: suggesting automatix is not encouraged in here
[10:09] <black_13> how do i open port 43382?
[10:09] <jrib> black_13: it's open by default
[10:09] <Judicata> Pommie: it usually does work. people here just don't like it :)
[10:09] <Pommie> mwe: I'm NOT suggesting Automatix.
[10:09] <swx> Judicata: I read somewhere in ubutnufr wiki that there was a graphical config tool to do this
[10:09] <lamego> black_13, all ports are open by default
[10:09] <mwe> Pommie: huh
[10:09] <concept10> Automatix is great for Ubuntu
[10:09] <mwe> Pommie: good then
[10:09] <lamego> i mean, open when there is something listening on them
[10:10] <Pommie> mwe: He asked for the most "unofficial". :-P
[10:10] <jrib> jeanjean_: what shell do you use?
[10:10] <wizo> is it possible to install and boot ubuntu odd an external harddrive?
[10:10] <Li`lEndian> man, am i in deep poo here. is there a way for me to downgrade to the previous nvidia driver?
[10:10] <wizo> s/odd/off
[10:10] <n2diy> preaction, ok, the keyring is working.
[10:10] <lamego> Li`lEndian, just remove the new one and install the old one using dpkg
[10:10] <jrib> Li`lEndian: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx=VERSION    apt-cache policy nvidia-glx  will show available versions
[10:10] <jeanjean_> jrib, tryed in gnome terminal
[10:10] <Judicata> swx: maybe, but editing the fstab is what most people seem to do - its not that difficult.
[10:10] <Pommie> Judicata : Yeah, so I've read elsewhere. ;)
[10:11] <Li`lEndian> ok lemme try
[10:11] <swx> Judicata: yup i understand, thank you
[10:11] <wizo> is it possible to install and boot ubuntu odd an external harddrive?
[10:11] <jrib> jeanjean_: are you sure the file that you pasted has been saved?
[10:11] <mwe> wizo: possible but not always easy
[10:12] <wizo> i see, why so?
[10:12] <section31> Pommie, so where can i manage the samba users....what's the default user
[10:12] <Judicata> swx: if you want to pastebin your fstab, and tell us what is wrong, someone can tell you what code to enter where. You can also just search the forums for it if you'd rather.
[10:12] <mwe> wizo: because at least booting from external usb disks usually cause problems
[10:12] <svfusion> http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2793/screenshotdg4.png
[10:12] <Pommie> section31 : You manage them with the smbpaswd command.
[10:13] <mebsd> need help getting wireless to work.. im in kde wireless assistant window
[10:13] <jeanjean_> jrib, yes I saved, but I need to include that dbus file
[10:13] <wizo> mwe: problems like?
[10:13] <Pommie> section31 : Sorry, smbpasswd command
[10:13] <svfusion> x1600 with ubuntu anyone?
[10:13] <mwe> wizo: like things not working. eg not booting etc
[10:13] <wizo> oo i see, alright thanks
[10:13] <jrib> jeanjean_:  cat rhythmbox.py && ./rhythmbox.py
[10:13] <mwe> wizo: go ahead and try, though
[10:14] <wizo> yea sure thing
[10:14] <Pommie> !ati | svfusion
[10:14] <ubotwo> svfusion: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:14] <mwe> wizo: All I'm saying is I heard it could cause problems
[10:14] <black_13> lamego i am using azureus and it says that port 43382 is closed
[10:14] <wizo> what about the other types of usb type bootable distros like DSL
[10:14] <svfusion> I have install the drivers
[10:14] <jeanjean_> jrib, same error
[10:14] <svfusion> 100 differnt times
[10:14] <svfusion> http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2793/screenshotdg4.png
[10:14] <svfusion> that is what I get
[10:14] <wizo> mwe, i see, thanks =] 
[10:14] <jrib> jeanjean_: pastebin the whole thing
[10:14] <mebsd> need help getting wireless to work
[10:14] <section31> Pommie,when i try to change the password it asks me for my old password which i don't have
[10:15] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[10:15] <wizo> mebsd, what wireless
[10:15] <mwe> wizo: I installed ubunto from a usb stick
[10:15] <jrib> jeanjean_: I just don't see what is happening, sorry if it's repetative
[10:15] <svfusion> ndis mebdsd
[10:15] <__inline__> Greetings everybody; I have an interesting problem with the Dapper livecd. I am trying to install on a Dell GX260, and there's no problem with it, except that the resolution is stuck at 640x480x16 and there's no other depths or resolutions listed. This really wouldn't be a problem, except the installer applet is just a shade too big to see any of the widgets and wont' resize.
[10:15] <wizo> mwe: err? did you have ubuntu on the usb stick?
[10:15] <Li`lEndian> jrib: will the policy stick when i do subsequent upgrades?
[10:15] <Pommie> section31 : You can't change the password for a user that doesn't exist. Use the -a option at least once to add your account.
[10:15] <mwe> wizo: the installer
[10:15] <jeanjean_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2174/
[10:16] <wizo> ah i see
[10:16] <wizo> anyway, thanks, gtg
[10:16] <mwe> wizo: it's described on wiki.ubuntu.com under installation
[10:16] <jrib> Li`lEndian: you can a) remove the repo with the beta drivers or b) !apt-pinning
[10:16] <ThomPhoenix> Greetings
[10:16] <ThomPhoenix> I have a small issue here
[10:16] <ThomPhoenix> I'm in a terminal
[10:16] <ThomPhoenix> and I get a J/N question
[10:16] <__inline__> Oh, and by the way, that system uses the i810 drivers
[10:16] <Li`lEndian> i mean the one for nvidia-glx.i was actually trying to install beryl. serves me right for getting lazy and using some script
[10:16] <ThomPhoenix> I answer J but the operatin doesn't continue
[10:16] <mwe> !enter | ThomPhoenix
[10:16] <ubotwo> ThomPhoenix: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:16] <Li`lEndian> !apt-pinning
[10:16] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[10:16] <jrib> !pinning
[10:16] <ubotwo> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[10:17] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: Yes, I type J and press Enter of course
[10:17] <jrib> Li`lEndian: something like that :)
[10:17] <Li`lEndian> lol
[10:17] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: don't press return all the time
[10:17] <section31> Pommie,got it thank you so muich
[10:17] <Pommie> section31 : no problem
[10:17] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: so how do I confirm the J then? Magic?
[10:17] <Li`lEndian> move over rover, let google take over
[10:17] <sarah> does anyone know where I can find the swiftfox files after installation? I'm trying to change the default firefox button to run swiftfox instead...
[10:18] <enaut> How is that working with the 64- 32bit system I have curently installed a 64bit system but I want to have an aditional 32bit system - will i be able to use one /home partition for both Systems?
[10:18] <__inline__> sarah: try /usr/share or /usr/local/share
[10:18] <jrib> jeanjean_: does '/usr/bin/env python' start a python shell?
[10:18] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: I'm just saying keep your comments on one line, don't press return all the time
[10:18] <graft> is it worth it to install swiftfox?
[10:18] <section31> one more question, is there an easy way to make a share public to everyone, or am i going to have to go into the smb.conf and configure that myself
[10:18] <sarah> __inline__, thanks i'll give it a try
[10:18] <POVaddct> !mplayer
[10:18] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: Oh, now I get it, you're not talking about the terminal issue
[10:19] <ubotwo> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[10:19] <ubotwo> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:19] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: elaborate or your question is useless
[10:19] <Kw4k> http://www.visitallday.com/default.asp?partner=Kwak
[10:19] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: what question?
[10:19] <__inline__> enaut: I have a 32bit sandbox running on my gentoo box at home under a 64bit system. At least as far as an x86_64 is concerned, it should run fine.
[10:19] <sarah> __inline__, actually i don't them there at all
[10:20] <ThomPhoenix> Okay, I get a Y/N (confirm Yes or No) questn in the terminal, so I type "J' and press Enter, but instead of continuing the operation the terminal just...stops. As if it doesn't recognize the J.
[10:20] <jeanjean_> jrib, yes but gonna try It another day, but thanks for help
[10:20] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: type Y instead of J probably
[10:20] <many> hi, is this also supportchannel for feisty? :)
[10:20] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[10:20] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: why would you answer J to a Y/N question?
[10:20] <__inline__> sarah: you might be able to get a good idea of where it might be by typing "which swiftfox" or whatever the bin name is into a terminal.
[10:20] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: I have dutch version of Ubuntu, it specifically asks for "J" instead of Y. J stand of Ja
[10:20] <cappiz> someone here ever tried to make a full crypto system booting from a USB ?
[10:20] <__inline__> I don't use swiftfox personally so it was just a guess
[10:21] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: oh
[10:21] <sarah> which swift
[10:21] <__inline__> Yep.
[10:21] <sarah> thanks
[10:21] <enaut> sarah: try here: /usr/bin/swiftfox_start
[10:21] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: what is asking that?
[10:21] <svfusion> anyone using x1600 with ubuntu?
[10:21] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: I was apt-getting, it needs to get new packages and asks for confirmation.
[10:21] <__inline__> brb, gonna try a reboot
[10:22] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: I don't get that. does it ask if you want to get something though it doesn't have a crypto key or something?
[10:22] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: let me see
[10:22] <graft> argh... can someone boot Kw4k?
[10:23] <mwe> graft: k24k?
[10:23] <sarah> enaut, not there either!
[10:23] <graft> mwe: no, Kw4k
[10:23] <cappiz> !grub | cappiz
[10:23] <mwe> graft: what's that?
[10:23] <ubotwo> cappiz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: No, it simply says "99 MB of archives need to be downloaded, do you want to continue?"
[10:23] <graft> mwe: this dude who keeps spamming advertisements?
[10:23] <enaut> sarah: mine is at this position...
[10:24] <rarcke> Hi. I'm having trouble with connecting my mobile phone via USB. The KMobileTools guys sent me over here. My phone never appears connection. Here's the kernel log from when I plug my phone in : http://phpfi.com/195140
[10:24] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: and pressing 'J' doesn't work?
[10:24] <enaut>  sarah: do you have it installed?
[10:24] <sarah> enaut, I installed it using automatix
[10:24] <humanspecies> Exchange calendar sharing -- anyone got it working with Evolution?
[10:24] <graft> mwe: e.g., * Kw4k http://www.visitallday.com/default.asp?partner=Kwak
[10:24] <rarcke> I'm running Edgy BTW.
[10:24] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: it doesn't, pressing j (lower-case) doesn't work either
[10:24] <enaut>  sarah: well me too... but Ihave a 64bit system
[10:24] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: odd. if it asks me pressing Y works
[10:24] <reinhardt1053> hi
[10:24] <sarah> enaut, found it....in /opt
[10:25] <n2diy> Curious, I'm sharing my home folder with NFS, but it is showing up in firestarter as a samba connection?
[10:25] <enaut>  sarah: ah ok
[10:25] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: maybe stupid issue with dutch translation or something
[10:25] <reinhardt1053> what font do you use in ubuntu?
[10:25] <sarah> enaut, /opt/swiftfox to be precise
[10:25] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: dunno
[10:25] <sarah> enaut, is that normal to place programs there?
[10:25] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: I'd try 'Y'
[10:25] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: I'll try it again
[10:25] <graft> sarah: /opt isn't used by debian-based systems, usually
[10:25] <cappiz> hum.....
[10:25] <enaut>  sarah: that's the normal place for 'opt'ional programms i think
[10:26] <graft> sarah: /usr/local is preferred
[10:26] <mwe> enaut: it's a common place for that
[10:26] <sarah> ok thanks all....as usual ubuntu has the best forum responses!!!!
[10:26] <mwe> /usr/local is preffered by some
[10:26] <break_> ubuntu has teh best support evar
[10:27] <mwe> /opt is a fine place to keep your personal shite
[10:27] <Delux_247>  /usr/local should be for all your non-native apps
[10:27] <graft> that's because ubuntu has the best users...
[10:27] <break_> lol you wish
[10:27] <Delux_247> keep you system lib and local lib SEPERATE!
[10:27] <break_> ubuntu is pretty sweet, everything about it really
[10:27] <mwe> /opt is as good as /usr/local
[10:27] <break_> its user friendly enough for most people :\
[10:27] <Delux_247> yeah, just don't install non-native crap to /usr/lib
[10:27] <mwe> Delux_247: right
[10:28] <enaut> but now again will i be able to have a trial boot system (Linux32|Linux64|Windows) with the Homepartition shared?
[10:28] <swx> f anyone can give me the name of the ubuntu disk manager (System > Admin)
[10:28] <break_> somebody needs to fix flash
[10:28] <rarcke> Can anyone help me with a hardware problem?
[10:28] <break_> rarcke
[10:28] <graft> !ask | rarcke
[10:28] <break_> what is it
[10:28] <ubotwo> rarcke: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:28] <rarcke> I did , but no one answered!
[10:28] <swx> If anyone can give me the name of the ubuntu disk manager command or package (System > Admin). thank you
[10:28] <break_> well we're paying attention now haha
[10:28] <graft> rarcke: well, ask it again...
[10:29] <utxeeee> ppl I need to creat e HDD iamge backup, and i have already one
[10:29] <rarcke> I'm having trouble with connecting my mobile phone via USB. The KMobileTools guys sent me over here. My phone never appears connection. Here's the kernel log from when I plug my phone in : http://phpfi.com/195140
[10:29] <mwe> Delux_247: installing non-native crap in /usr/lib could break things ;)
[10:29] <n2diy> swx:  are you using 6.10?
[10:29] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: I changed language to English(GB) and tried with y and Y. Didn't work either, I used the -y postfix this time though and it seems to work now.
[10:29] <peresko> problem: getting diagonal line from top-left top bottom-right when playing xvid
[10:29] <Delux_247> can I ask a question about asking questions?
[10:29] <utxeeee> but I know i need some further stuff
 Yes, i know its been removed but is it possible to install it ?
[10:29] <utxeeee> like a copy a partition table and more?
[10:29] <Kw4k> hi all
[10:29] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: with -y it does yes to all automatically, a bit dirty but I need to apt-get Gnome :P
[10:29] <utxeeee> can you hel me?
[10:30] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: please report a bug
[10:30] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: it sounds broken
[10:30] <Delux_247> mwe:: I know, that's why I said that, the system stability depends greatly on you not mixing the latest versions of libs a cool app needs, bvs the stable older lib that your system needs just to run smooth
[10:30] <n2diy> swx:  ok, I don't know, that is one reason I'm still using 6.06, good luck.
[10:30] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: Btw, I'm on Herd 2
[10:30] <Delux_247> at le4ast, that's the number one reason for linux instability
[10:30] <fozze> what package is dig included in?
[10:30] <StraightShooter> does anyone know how to set the color behind the ubuntu splash screen off of the ugly brown color?
[10:30] <Delux_247> most pm s repect this now
[10:30] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[10:30] <enaut> but now again will i be able to have a trial boot system (Linux32|Linux64|Windows) with the Homepartition shared?
  thx
[10:30] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: oh. still though. file a but report
[10:30] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: bug*
[10:30] <peresko> nvidia + playing xvid --> = diagonal line in any player....please anyone?
[10:30] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: okay, on the launchpad pages?
[10:30] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: right
[10:31] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: it sounds pretty broken to me
[10:31] <graft> peresko: maybe your video is fkd up?
[10:31] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: indeed
[10:31] <peresko> graft: no it is new
[10:31] <graft> peresko: no i mean the video file you're trying to play
[10:32] <rarcke> Mostly if someone could give me any idea of what's going wrong with my phone it would be a help. I'm terrible with hardware.
[10:32] <peresko> graft: i have it with any xvid file
[10:32] <peresko> graft: a line from top-left to bottom-right.
[10:32] <StraightShooter> nvm found it
[10:32] <graft> peresko: urm, what players?
[10:32] <peresko> mplayer,vlc-player
[10:32] <black_13> what can i do the improve the download performace of azureus?
[10:32] <_Sean> What is the command for going to a parent directory?
[10:33] <peresko> graft: nd the line is not a color, it's more a distortion between the 2 halves
[10:34] <graft> um, what video output plugin are you using?
[10:34] <graft> jesus christ... can some ops get rid of that idiot spammer?
[10:34] <cappiz> is it possible to make a ramdisk inside a chroot?
[10:34] <n2diy> !ops
[10:34] <ubotwo> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:34] <DBO> on it babes
[10:34] <graft> nice nice
[10:35] <peresko> graft: i installed the mplayer win32 codecs
[10:35] <graft> peresko: no i mean -vo what?
[10:36] <mwe> huh
[10:36] <leobloo1> hello!
[10:36] <leobloo1> can I ask help for two problems?
[10:36] <peresko> graft: sorry, i don't know what u mean :) i don't use -vo option with mplayer
[10:37] <n2diy> ! ask | leobloo1
[10:37] <ubotwo> leobloo1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:38] <nasum> howdy - anyone awake?
[10:38] <leobloo1> my bittorrent doesn't open anymore but i've already checked if the installation is ok, nothing , i had to download another torrent software to download the files
[10:38] <Najjstroem^_-> Why do i lagg when playing couner-strike with wine
[10:38] <rarcke> Anyone good with hardware issues?
[10:38] <valde> Anyone able to help me with installing steam with wine, when i start to update steam it give an error
[10:38] <ThomPhoenix> mwe: submitted onto Launchpad into Feisty bugs
[10:38] <mwe> ThomPhoenix: good
[10:38] <graft> peresko: try -vo xv or -vo sdl and see if one of those makes a difference
[10:39] <leobloo1> I also have a problem with burning the iso i've downloaded, I read that the right click "write to disc" is the easiest way but Iv'e already tried burning two dvd's and the dvd was corrupted, I've hadan error, possibly because it burns at max speedand it doesn't make me choose a lower one
[10:39] <nasum> can someone who has samba running tell me the output of this: ls /etc/S*samba?
[10:39] <nasum> I need to know the numbers
[10:39] <nasum> can someone who has samba running tell me the output of this: ls /etc/rc2.d/S*samba?
[10:40] <leobloo1> isn't there another software i can downloadand install to deal with iso and other dvd burning more easily and in a safer way (dvd's are rather expensive =o/ and I lost two for no reason)
[10:40] <n2diy> leobloo1: k3b
[10:40] <chazco> hi, on Kubuntu my USB CF reader used to automount when a card was inserted, but this doesnt happen on Edgy Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[10:40] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can't open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[10:41] <peresko> graft: to bad, the diagonal distortion still appears, i have tried it with different video files
[10:41] <chazco> no SD devices exist in /dev ?
[10:41] <graft> peresko: hm, dunno what to say... what video driver are you using for X11?
[10:41] <leobloo1> is k3b safer? I tried opening the cddvd software in ubuntu, the default one but I can't get how it works, i can't change anything!
[10:41] <n2diy> Curious, I'm sharing my home folder with NFS, but it is showing up in firestarter as a samba connection?
[10:41] <viperstyx> hey guys, ive got a quick user management question
[10:42] <n2diy> leobloo1: k3b will let you choose your burn speed.
[10:42] <viperstyx> ive got root access to this ubuntu 6.xx machine
[10:42] <viperstyx> and i tried to create a user using useradd
[10:42] <viperstyx> and i cant log in with it
[10:42] <AlexC_> Hey,
[10:42] <AlexC_> How can I enabled .CGI support in apache? I need to run a .cgi file but it just outputs it as text
[10:42] <graft> viperstyx: did you make a password?
[10:42] <viperstyx> yes
[10:42] <leobloo1> another quesiton, when I installed linux I had read that it can read (see) the windows partition, how can I do it?
[10:42] <viperstyx> -p whatever
[10:43] <graft> viperstyx: nah, do sudo passwd <newuser>
[10:43] <HymnToLife> !ntfs | leobloo1
[10:43] <ubotwo> leobloo1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:43] <n2diy> leobloo1: /system/admin/shared folders.
[10:43] <graft> viperstyx: -p requires you to enter the encrypted password - did you do that or did you enter it plain-text?
[10:44] <viperstyx> oh, i entered plain text
[10:44] <viperstyx> i tried passwd and now i can log in =] 
[10:44] <viperstyx> thanks graft
[10:44] <ablyss> AlexC_: you edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:44] <AlexC_> ablyss: yeah, but what do I need to add/edit?
[10:45] <jmblack> Im trying to get lirc to function with my IR reciever, USB made by SMK, came bundled with a PVR150 but I cant get as far as irw reading the remote.
[10:45] <ablyss> AlexC_: let me look it up.. been a while so I don't remember
[10:45] <graft> viperstyx: yeah, you should NEVER be required to enter a password plaintext... that's always a sign that you're (a) doing something wrong or (b) need to find a new solution
[10:46] <joris> What Gstreamer pipeline do i have to use for sound juicer when i want cbr 320 -- preset insane?
[10:46] <AlexC_> ablyss: ok thanks
[10:46] <ablyss> AlexC: add index.cgi to Directory Inde, then find this line "# To use CGI scripts outside /cgi-bin/:" and make sure "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" is enabled
[10:46] <jmblack> I start lircd (seemingly successfully) but irw terminates immediately. I *might* have the wrong lircd.conf, lthough it does say hauppauge
[10:47] <ablyss> Directory Index*
[10:47] <graft> anyone know if AIGLX works with any new driver versions for an ATI Xpress 200M?
[10:47] <ablyss> AlexC: there's one more thing... 1 sec
[10:47] <NotAGoth> Question - what synaptic category is xchat in?
[10:47] <NotAGoth> I can't stand Gaim IRC.
[10:48] <n2diy> NotAGoth: just use synaptic's search function.
[10:48] <ablyss> AlexC: in your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default make sure "Options ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch" is included
[10:48] <Serishema> is there any known problems with the squid package in 6.10?
[10:49] <ablyss> NotAGoth: me either
[10:49] <NotAGoth> 'kay, found it
[10:49] <AlexC_> ablyss: talking with the guys in #apache - seems like I need to install Perl
[10:49] <joris> join #unbuntu-nl
[10:49] <ablyss> AlexC: no
[10:50] <ablyss> perl isn't required to run CGI
[10:50] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can't open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[10:50] <many> heya. ive some oddity with feisty/fglrx.  a modprobe is just hanging forever and iam seeking clues on whats wrong
[10:50] <many> ``modprobe --ignore-install -Qb fglrx'' is in ``D''isk IO state
[10:50] <n2diy> Curious, I'm sharing my home folder with NFS, but it is showing up in firestarter as a samba connection?
[10:50] <agnostic> how to make a VCD ?
[10:51] <ablyss> AlexC, unless your CGI is written w/ perl
[10:52] <steel_lady> can somebody tell me which program unpacks .rar files???
[10:52] <ablyss> steel_lady: unrar
[10:52] <Agni> steel_lady: unrar
[10:52] <leobloo1> ehm n2diy is it normal than when I try to onstall samba and nfs to sue the shared folder it asks me to insert the ubuntu cd?
[10:52] <ablyss> sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:52] <AlexC_> ablyss: yes it is,
[10:53] <AlexC_> ablyss: how do I restart apache again? /etc/init.d/ apache-restart? something like that :P
[10:53] <Agni> AlexC_: httpd stop and httpd start
[10:53] <ablyss> AlexC: well apache2 dosen't care what scripting language you use.  though there are some modules available to make the scripting work with apache2 better.  The instructions I gave you above should allow you to run any scripting language
[10:54] <ablyss> AlexC_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:56] <ablyss> anyone want to see a screenshot :P
[10:56] <vleon> hey ppl, i have to comps that are connected wireless and i wanted to know how can i share data between them
[10:56] <ablyss> vleon, samba ?
[10:57] <vleon> samba is an app for this purpose?
[10:57] <AlexC_> ablyss: I've done all that but still a no go
[10:57] <AlexC_> ablyss: I may be wrong, now I get "forbidden" instead
[10:57] <ablyss> !ubotwo samba
[10:57] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[10:58] <linuxnewbie756> command for deleting a folder with stuff in it?
[10:58] <qeed> rm -rf
[10:58] <s0y1> rm -rf
[10:58] <ablyss> AlexC, forbidden sounds like your directory isn't set correct.. cosult your error logs and #apache
[10:58] <s0y1> oops
[10:58] <AlexC_> linuxnewbie756: also rm --help
[11:00] <linuxnewbie756> it says "no such file or dir, but i know it has the right path
[11:00] <NotAGoth> Hi, i know my monitor can do 1600*1200. But the largest resolution shown in the Screen resolution preference dialog is 1280*1024.
[11:00] <NotAGoth> I miss my 1600*1200 I had in my old winblows box.
[11:01] <johnsyn>  NotAGoth: that a huge one
[11:01] <NotAGoth> How can I make ubuntu recognise that my monitor can do 1600*1200?
[11:01] <NotAGoth> Yeah, it's a 21" CRT
[11:01] <Tmi> Tried adding the resolutions in your xorg.conf?
[11:01] <break_> xorg.conf
[11:02] <break_> ya
[11:02] <vleon> ablyss samba is very complicated for a newb like me is there an easier way?
[11:02] <break_> what else is there...i went through a long setup process of some sort that finally let me use higher resolutions
[11:02] <xxtlosxx> hey guys i have question, I am using ubuntu 6.10\edgy, and using ati's drivers from their website, i was also using beryl... here is my problem... beryl had a bunch of updates today, i rebooted and now all of a sudden, my ati drivers have turned to crap....... so i downloaded the ati drivers, the ones that end in .run, make a .deb package, and installed them, rebooted, and still fglrx does not support direct rendering, anyone have a
[11:02] <NotAGoth> xorg.conf? Where's that? (I'm a linux newb that's used to winblows)
[11:02] <break_> anybody know what i'm talking about?
[11:02] <break_> it was pretty easy
[11:02] <Tmi> its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:02] <johnsyn>  NotAGoth : try man find
[11:03] <Pelo> anyone know a command to clean up orphan dependencies and stuff ?
[11:03] <xxtlosxx> anyone anyone????
[11:03] <Tmi> always remeber to backup xorg.conf before doing any editing in it
[11:03] <Pelo> from the whole hdd ?
[11:04] <Steve_GPent3> hi
[11:04] <Pelo> p47,  try the alternate install cd
[11:04] <Steve_GPent3> I am having trouble with my ubuntu install
[11:04] <AlexC_> Steve_GPent3: just ask the qestion
[11:04] <AlexC_> question,
[11:04] <p47> Pelo: I tryed with Alternate 64 Desktop 64 and server 64, and I got the same problem.
[11:05] <AlexC_> p47: do you have a core 2 duo?
[11:05] <Steve_GPent3> I cannot read DVD's Video,or Otherwise
[11:05] <thug> how do i mount ext3 partition on boot-up, and allow all users to read/write ?
[11:05] <p47> AlexC_: no.. I have opteron AMD 64
[11:05] <thug> /dev/hdh1     /mnt/Hard2  ext3   defaults,errors=remount-rw 0       1 ?
[11:05] <AlexC_> Steve_GPent3: sounds like you need to install more codecs
[11:05] <joris> Does somebody know here anything about sound juicer?
[11:05] <Pelo> Steve_GPent3,  that is not a problem,  ubuntu comes like that out of the box,   multimedia support has to be added
[11:05] <Steve_GPent3> It is the data i cannot read
[11:06] <p47> AlexC_: can you help me with the installation ?
[11:06] <evan_> hey can someone help me with an ppp network
[11:06] <AlexC_> Steve_GPent3: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[11:06] <AlexC_> evan_: if you don't ask the question, then no.
[11:06] <AlexC_> p47: can you try another CD Drive?
[11:06] <p47> Pelo: I was trying to install with all those .iso but I still have the sama problem
[11:07] <evan_>  hey can someone help me to set up an ppp network
[11:07] <p47> AlexC_: the problem is that I have a dell server an it just has one cd rom
[11:07] <evan_> alexc;)
[11:07] <AlexC_> evan_: I just said, ASK the question
[11:07] <ablyss> vleon, gnome can easily connect to samba shares.. making it as easy as browsing the internet.  read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[11:07] <AlexC_> evan_: how do we know if we can help, if you don't tell us the problem?
[11:07] <AlexC_> I need sleep
[11:07] <AlexC_> bye guys,
[11:08] <dawson> hello all, interesting problem. I have been playing with vista and managed to screw up my grub. It was gone and replaced with the windows ntldr, I have removed that, and attempted to get grub bak, failed on many attemps many drifferent things. Decided that the ubuntu installer was the easist method to get it back, Created a new partition to temp install another ubuntu kernal and the plan was that it would reinstate grub and i
[11:08] <dawson> [22:00]  <dawson> could then just delete the partition and edit the menu.lst. I now have grub loading from the new install, how do i make grub boot from the old install and not this current one.
[11:08] <dawson> help!!
[11:08] <finalbeta> Compiling openftpd says I'm missing "-lgdbm_compat" , I can't figure out what that is part of. Can't find it in synaptic. anyone?
 okay i dont know how to setup an ppp network i did like someone to hand me an easy tutorial or give me commands and stuff
[11:08] <NotAGoth> Sorry, had to reboot
[11:08] <leobloo1> ehm doesn somebody know a good software to capture online video stream on ubuntu?
[11:09] <ablyss> leobloo1: VLC works great for me
[11:09] <mnoir> !grub | dawson i know it ain't in ref to vista but have you looked here?
[11:09] <ubotwo> dawson i know it ain't in ref to vista but have you looked here?: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:09] <boss> #ubuntu.pl
[11:09] <leobloo1> ablyss, can it also capture stream?
[11:09] <bocca> ciao
[11:09] <p47> Can you help me with installation  I have a AMD opteron 64 ! I got problems can yo help me ?
[11:09] <leobloo1> how? I only use vlc when no other player seems to work
[11:09] <mnoir> dawson: in a nutshell you should not have to reinstall anything but grub
[11:10] <ablyss> leobloo1: yes
[11:10] <vleon> ablyss thanks
[11:11] <leobloo1> ok, I'l give it a try, thanks a lot =o)
[11:11] <dawson> yea, i know but I have been unsuccessful with the grub install. 'invalid device requested'
[11:11] <ablyss> vleon, there are different methods for sharing files between two computers, but by far, samba would be the way to go.
[11:11] <mnoir> dawson: hrmm
[11:12] <vleon> ablyss but both my computers run ubuntu and in the guide its said that samba is for sharing linux with windows
[11:12] <juano> Steve_GPent3: dawson did you specify the right HDD?
[11:12] <graft> vleon: NFS?
[11:12] <ablyss> !NFS
[11:12] <ubotwo> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:12] <tyksu> hi all i need some php editor what u prefer?
[11:13] <Steve_GPent3> juano, huh
[11:13] <g333k_work> hi, how to upgrade from xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 safetely?
[11:13] <ablyss> vleon check out NFS
[11:13] <NotAGoth> Okay, I changed the xorg.conf
[11:13] <vleon> ok thanks!
[11:13] <NotAGoth> now how do I reload it?
[11:13] <mnoir> tyksu: since any text editor will edit php, i assume you want more. try quanta plus
[11:13] <cabldevil> how come if i have xchat and gaim and anyonther program open  then i leave for work - log back in from the screen saver  it closes all the programs??
[11:14] <ablyss> NotAGoth: restart GDM sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:14] <juano> Steve_GPent3: if your getting an invalid device requested, maybe your not telling grub where you want it to install
[11:14] <graft> NotAGoth: ctrl-alt-backspace is the easiest way... the safest way is /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg restart
[11:14] <dawson> yes, before i start, in the grub shell i type "find /boot/grub/stage1" this then returns (hd0,2) and (hd0,6). And currently it is the grub located on (hd0,6) which is loading, and i want the other one. :(
[11:14] <verve> hey guys.. so i'm thinking i'm gonna compile my own kernel.. do i need any special patches or anything for nVidia?
[11:14] <graft> NotAGoth: err, yeah, or gdm restart
[11:14] <Steve_GPent3> juano i am wanting it to read DVD's once i am in the OS
[11:14] <peresko> graft: i fixed it, thanx for your hint regarding the -vo option, now i use  mplayer -vo gl2:yuv=4 and i dont have the annoying diagonal line
[11:15] <graft> peresko: wow that's hardcore... seems unfriendly, tho
[11:15] <nn531> you know how gaim and amarok go in the i guess what windows calls system tray, is there something for gmail that goes there and checks my email for me
[11:15] <juano> Steve_GPent3: uupps.. sorry i meant dawson :P
[11:15] <juano> Steve_GPent3: nevermind.. my bad
[11:15] <agnostic> please tell me if  a fragmentation of an ext3 file system about 4,9 % is normal , thanks!
[11:15] <ablyss> have i told you guys lately life is a bowl of cherries
[11:15] <graft> nn531: nah, that's an applet made by google specifically for windows
[11:15] <Steve_GPent3> juano this is for you
[11:15] <Steve_GPent3> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 700MHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 45.2% free]  disk[Total : 10.58GB, 74.50% Free]  video[ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x]  sound[] 
[11:15] <juano> nn531: gmail-notify
[11:16] <nn531> juano: is there anything for linux thats decent?
[11:16] <graft> nn531: http://gmail-notify.sourceforge.net/
[11:16] <grendel> decent?
[11:16] <juano> nn531: gmail-notifiy is decent, you got checkgmail to
[11:16] <juano> nn531: sudo apt-get install checkgmail
[11:16] <ablyss> gaim can check email too, and notify you
[11:17] <RawSewage> Whats the command to print out a listing of folders and contents to a txt file
[11:17] <juano> nn531: yea.. ablyss is right too bout gaim
[11:17] <ablyss> assume your email  is on one of gaims account options
[11:17] <ablyss> assume/assuming
[11:17] <nn531> ablyss: ill check into that thanks
[11:17] <mnoir> RawSewage: after the cmd to list them, put > filename
[11:17] <RawSewage> mnoir, ty
[11:18] <juano> RawSewage: ls > myfile.txt
[11:18] <RawSewage> ok
[11:18] <mnoir> RawSewage: no ty until it works :)
[11:18] <RawSewage> Im sure it will
[11:18] <ShiftyPowers> guys, is there a way to ensure that a certain soundcard is loaded first upon boot?
[11:18] <grendel> does anyone know how to mount windows directories from linux which is running on VMware?
[11:18] <ShiftyPowers> as of right now my soundcard gets randomly added before and after other audio devices
[11:18] <nn531> ablyss: hmm, it isnt
[11:19] <leobloo1> ablyss sorry but i can't make it work 0o/ could you please help me? =o/
[11:19] <ShiftyPowers> which is annoying because i end up having to rehack .asoundrc everytime
[11:19] <RawSewage> mnoir, it worked
[11:19] <mnoir> :)
[11:19] <juano> nn531: i suggest checkgmail or gmail-notify
[11:19] <nn531> juano:k
[11:19] <ubuntu_> oi, I'm having trouble booting Ubuntu.  I've had it installed for quite a while now, but for some reason it just stopped wanting to boot.
[11:19] <NotAGoth> Typing what whoever told me kicked me to textmode.
[11:19] <agnostic>  please tell me if  a fragmentation of an ext3 file system about 4,9 % is normal , thanks!
[11:20] <NotAGoth> But I rebooted and all is well.
[11:20] <nn531> juano: your fav?
[11:20] <juano> nn531: checkgmail is better than gmail-notify i guess... checkgmail auto logins when you click on new message and displays it.. etc..
[11:21] <admin_> kcheckgmail :)
[11:21] <grendel> fragmentation level of 4.9% is fine : agnostic
[11:21] <leobloo1> ablyss? you there?
[11:21] <juano> nn531: dont use kcheckgmail its old
[11:21] <ablyss> yes leobloo1
[11:21] <juano> nn531: just checkgmail
[11:22] <admin_> juano: well what version of "ubuntu" are you running, "it's old"
[11:22] <admin_> :P
[11:22] <nn531> juano: installing as we speak
[11:22] <juano> admin_: edgy 6.10
[11:22] <leobloo1> could you help me capturing that stream? Id be grateful =o)
[11:22] <admin_> juano:  ah ok :)
[11:23] <strager> I'm having trouble booting Ubuntu Edgy.  I've had it installed for quite a while now, but for some reason it just stopped wanting to boot.  Recovery mode does not work, either.  It seems to fail after showing something like "loading manual device drivers" (when in recovery mode).
[11:23] <juano> admin_: :D, well actually dont know how old.. but said something when i opened it bout it
[11:23] <juano> admin_: dont recall much
[11:23] <nn531> juano: i dont always have to run it through the shell do I?
[11:24] <juano> nn531: you can make it start on startup
[11:24] <Kewlb> in windows I can run 1440x900 -- but this resolution is not an option in ubuntu.. anyway to fix this?
[11:24] <juano> nn531: are you in kde or gnome?
[11:24] <leobloo1> how can I first watch a wmv stream?
[11:24] <nn531> juano: gnome
[11:24] <caffiendo> I'm trying to upload a directory to my FTP server with sFTP.  What is the right command?  "Put * /destination_directory/"  ?
[11:24] <zeer> hi guys
[11:25] <juano> nn531: im in KDE now, but try reaching through system preferences or administration a way to see running services on startup
[11:25] <Delux_247> msn sftp
[11:25] <Delux_247> man sftp
[11:25] <adop> strager: what filesystem are you using for /
[11:25] <strager> adop: ext3
[11:25] <juano> nn531: in kde you just make a link to the script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:25] <Jarrod06> im trying to set up a vpn in 6.10 but there are no instructions online. can someone help?
[11:25] <caffiendo> ubuntu 6.10
[11:25] <strager> adop: I have dualboot with Windows if that's important, but don't use Windows much.
[11:25] <evan_> how can i see wicht com port im using?
[11:25] <caffiendo> The destination is Linux of some distro..
[11:25] <ablyss> leobloo1: sorry.. it's a wee bit for me to do
[11:26] <zeer> i can't solve a problem i have on edgy: rhythmbox sounds terrible...the sound is crispy when i raise the volume, which is really annoying, but on beep media player this doesn't happen
 i went to beep's settings and it is using alsa, so i believe that rhythmbox is using another codec or whatever it is, that makes the sound so bad...this didn't happen on dapper =\
[11:26] <nn531> juano: im not seeing anything in gnome
[11:26] <adop> strager: try booting from the installation disk and mount it, then unmount it and reboot
[11:26] <juano> nn531: well or else try making a script and putting it in /etc/init.d
[11:26] <strager> adop: I tried that
[11:26] <adop> strager: any problems mounting it?
[11:26] <leobloo1> well if you can just tell me how to watch streams =o/ I tried downloading the w32 lib but it says it can't coz it can't be downloaded alone
[11:27] <strager> adop: I also tried reinstalling ubuntu by chrooting to the HD and running apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop or something similar.
[11:27] <break_> k
[11:27] <strager> adop: I don't have any problems mounting it, and everything seems fine.  It doesn't look like data corruption.
[11:27] <ablyss> nn531: you're using gmail ?
[11:27] <nn531> ablyss: yeah
[11:27] <strager> adop: It worked just fine this morning, and I didn't touch windows or grub or anything between then and finding the problem.
[11:27] <juano> nn531: you can try putting this inside /etc/init.d http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2188/
[11:28] <ablyss> nn531: i know of a wine program that works well for reading web based mail off of linux if your interested
[11:29] <nn531> ablyss: im very new to the linux world and im not sure about wine
[11:29] <adop> strager: how about reinstalling the kernel image and modules, and then grun-install again? it is a bit extreme, but might work
[11:30] <nn531> juano: could not open file init.d
[11:30] <ablyss> nn531: sorry not wine, but java... http://mrpostman.sourceforge.net/
[11:30] <juano> nn531: in your dir /etc/init.d
[11:30] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can't open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[11:30] <juano> nn531: init.d is a dir
[11:30] <juano> nn531: you need to make a file with the code i gave you
[11:30] <verve> do i need to download nvidia-kernel-source to build my own kernel?
[11:30] <ablyss> i've used it and works great for hotmail too
[11:30] <nn531> aha
[11:30] <juano> nn531: then copy it in the dir /etc/init.d
[11:30] <verve> or is it already included in 2.6.19.2 source?
[11:31] <Smirnov> i have gxine installled... why cant i find regular xine
[11:31] <nn531> juano: a shell script?
[11:31] <juano> nn531: yea.. its a shell script
[11:31] <break_> .
[11:31] <juano> nn531: save it as checkgmail.sh
[11:32] <juano> nn531: or somethin
[11:32] <MindFreek> Is there a way to disconnect clients connected to your PC through VNC... without shutting down VNC
[11:32] <juano> nn531: then copy it in that dir, it should run at startup
[11:32] <MindFreek> In Windows there was a sys tray icon with that option
[11:32] <zeer> can somebody help me?...
[11:32] <mnoir> n2diy: when you ssh in, how are you opening the file?
[11:32] <juano> !ask | zeer
[11:32] <ubotwo> zeer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:32] <zeer> i did...
[11:33] <zeer> back there :p
[11:33] <zeer> i can't solve a problem i have on edgy: rhythmbox sounds terrible...the sound is crispy when i raise the volume, which is really annoying, but on beep media player this doesn't happen
[11:33] <n2diy> mnoir: double clicking it.
 <zeer> i went to beep's settings and it is using alsa, so i believe that rhythmbox is using another codec or whatever it is, that makes the sound so bad...this didn't happen on dapper =\
[11:33] <zeer> this is the problem
[11:33] <nn531> juano: it said I dont have permission when I try to save it
[11:33] <juano> nn531: use sudo to do it
[11:33] <mnoir> n2diy: i am missing something - double click in an ssh window?
[11:33] <juano> nn531: first save it on your desktop
[11:33] <n2diy> mnoir: no I have NFS setup/running.
[11:34] <juano> nn531: then from a console use sudo cp ~/Desktop/myfile /etc/init.d
[11:34] <nn531> juano: yep
[11:34] <ciscosurfer> Hello everyone!
[11:34] <cappiz> !mbr | cappiz
[11:34] <ubotwo> cappiz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:34] <strager> adop: What do you mean?
[11:34] <cappiz> how can i CLEAR mbr?
[11:34] <nn531> juano: done...brb
[11:34] <juano> nn531: ok
[11:34] <strager> adop: I reinstalled the packages -generic and -`uname -r` or whatever
[11:34] <MindFreek> anyone?
[11:34] <strager> adop: Is that what you mean?
[11:35] <strager> adop: And what is grun-install ?
[11:35] <juano> cappiz: what you mean by "clear"?
[11:35] <adaptr> cappiz: if you clear the MBR you will not be able to boot from the HD
[11:35] <cappiz> remove grub
[11:35] <ciscosurfer> Anybody here use Exaile?
[11:36] <cappiz> yeah i know
[11:36] <cappiz> :)
[11:36] <beterraba> i need to install this: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/hvg/Isabelle/installation.html but i can't. plz, help! i need this to make my homework!! :(
[11:36] <stapel> what is the channel name for feisty?
[11:36] <juano> cappiz: well you need to boot with a windows or ubuntu CD and override it with something
[11:36] <zeer88> why is my rythmbox quality so bad??
[11:36] <z1adoz> is there a good tutorial that will tell me how to setup compiz (desktop cubes etc) on my edgy box?
[11:36] <n2diy> stapel: #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <juano> zeer88: what type of file are you playing in rythmbox?
[11:36] <leobloo1> help there is something wrong with my repositories! it keeps on asking me to isert the cd where ubuntu is if i try to install things =o/
[11:37] <zeer88> zladoz, what is your graphic card?
[11:37] <adaptr> cappiz: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[11:37] <juano> nn531: any luck?
[11:37] <zeer88> juano, it's mp3
[11:37] <z1adoz> zeer88, its a gf mx440 64mb agp8x
[11:37] <adaptr> cappiz: I repeat: you WILL lose the ability to boot from the HD
[11:37] <nn531> juano: no dice,... unless it's running incognito
[11:37] <cappiz> thanks
[11:37] <z1adoz> i have the nvidia drivers installed too
[11:37] <cappiz> im going for a reinstall
[11:37] <cappiz> :)
[11:37] <juano> nn531: mm.. yea i got some problems with that until i found out in kde bout Autostart
[11:37] <juano> nn531:  let me check one sec
[11:37] <zeer88> hmmm...i have an ATI
[11:38] <adaptr> cappiz: then why do you need to alter the MBR ?
[11:38] <ciscosurfer> beterraba: do you have a working version of XEmacs?
[11:38] <zeer88> i can't help you with nvidia's, sorry =\
[11:38] <cappiz> cause it got screwed... doing it just for safety
[11:38] <z1adoz> doesn't fiesty have compiz built in?
[11:38] <zeer88> i'm sure many guys here will help
[11:38] <adop> leobloo1: seems normal
[11:39] <ciscosurfer> beterraba: do you have a working version of XEmacs? --with mule support??
[11:39] <adaptr> cappiz: there is not, nor will there ever be, a need to do that
[11:39] <leobloo1> it's never done it! I tired to install mozplugger , should it take it via internet?
[11:39] <Trunkz> How can I do a netinstall for UBuntu?
[11:39] <adaptr> !Minimal
[11:39] <ubotwo> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:39] <ablyss> MindFreek: i think kfrb might have something like that but not sure.. it also requires some kde libs
[11:39] <nn531> juano: when i run it in the therminal "checkgmail" that is it works, then when I close the terminal it closes
[11:39] <Trunkz> Thanks mate :)
[11:39] <adaptr> Trunkz: it's less than 10MB
[11:40] <juano> nn531: check this out : System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[11:40] <Trunkz> yeah :p
[11:40] <Trunkz> I done it awhile ago for Ubuntu 5
[11:40] <juano> nn531: then Startup Programs Tab -> Add/Edit/Delete
[11:40] <MindFreek> ablyss, you dont think you can do it with Vino from GNOME... I like the server, just want to know if I can disconnect people who connect to it
[11:40] <Trunkz> Shud I go for 6.10, or try out Feisty?
[11:40] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can't open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box is picking up the association?
[11:40] <concept10> ciscosurfer, what is mule support?
[11:40] <adaptr> you did it, yet you want to know *how* ? that's advanced geriatrics, that is :)
[11:40] <adop> leobloo1: if you want not to use the cd at all you'll have to remove it from the repository. Sometimes it needs a component that is on the cd and asks it in order not to download it.
[11:40] <leobloo1> i looked for it in the synaptic and i've found it so why couldn't it find it via apt-get?
[11:41] <nn531> juano: ok, brb
[11:41] <Trunkz> adaptr: Should I try 6.10 or have a go @ 7.04? :p
[11:41] <adaptr> Trunkz: feisty is alpha; if you want a *working* OS I'd recommend you use Edgy
[11:41] <Trunkz> fair enough :)
[11:41] <Trunkz> Its only gonna run on VMWare :p
[11:41] <snook353> what is the multiverse line for java?
[11:41] <leobloo1> but now when I click on preferences  i can't find that tab with the preference download
[11:41] <strager> adop: Any ideas on my issue?
[11:41] <adaptr> snook353: "multiverse line"?
[11:41] <n2diy> Trunkz: or better yet, stick with Dapper.
[11:41] <snook353> for the repositorys
[11:41] <nn531> juano: dice.. thanks a lot
[11:41] <adaptr> n2diy: what's wrong with edgy ?
[11:42] <juano> nn531: no prob :)
[11:42] <nn531> juano: what's KDE?
[11:42] <juano> nn531: you delete the script i gave you if you like
[11:42] <Trunkz> n2diy: my dapper is is somewhat old (as in.. I need to update 200MB+ worth of packages)
[11:42] <adaptr> snook353: it's.. erm... multiverse, obviously
[11:42] <ciscosurfer> cencept10: Mule is the extension to (x)emacs that allows for the display of
[11:42] <ciscosurfer> non-European characters (for example Japanese and Korean characters).
[11:42] <adop> leobloo1: it is in the settings->repositories
[11:42] <ablyss> MindFreek: maybe adding their IP/host to /etc/hosts.deny, but i believe that is controlled by /etc/init.d
[11:42] <snook353> what's the diff from the backports?
[11:42] <juano> nn531: its an alternative desktop environment
[11:42] <n2diy> adaptr: look at all the questions here related to Edgy, verses the ones for Dapper?
[11:42] <MindFreek> ablyss, I want to just boot the people connected, I want them to connect, but when we are done doing what we are doing, I want to boot them.
[11:42] <leobloo1> i tired but it doesn't seem to give me that tab anymore =o(
[11:42] <juano> nn531: you got gnome / kde and Xfce
[11:43] <nn531> juano: na, ill leave it because i completely installed a bunch of useless crap anyways and im gonna reinstall ubuntu in a couple days
[11:43] <adaptr> Trunkz: who cares, if you want to install a whole new one over the internet - ever heard of just sharing the packages ?
[11:43] <nn531> juano: anything in particular stick out compared to the others
[11:43] <juano> nn531: try installing kubuntu-desktop when you reinstall, its cool
[11:43] <nn531> k
[11:43] <juano> nn531: nah.. just different in media and that
[11:43] <adop> leobloo1: in the first tab there is a check box at the bottom (should be at least)
[11:43] <snook353> is it .../ubuntu/ dapper multiverse?
[11:43] <concept10> ciscosurfer, apt-get install xemacs21-gnome-mule
[11:43] <nn531> junano: is that an option in my install disc?
[11:43] <Trunkz> adaptr: For the HTTP link, what do u have to point it to? To the archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy directory?
[11:44] <juano> nn531: but not at kernel level, just user/media level
[11:44] <adaptr> n2diy: that's amateur statistics; a majority of people who *ask* about it are using edgy, nobody's showing any relative comparison between dapper and edgy
[11:44] <nn531> juano: k, ill check it out
[11:44] <adaptr> Trunkz: the multiverse repositories are already present in your software sources list; just uncomment them
[11:44] <juano> nn531: just a different desktop expierience, its good to try it out though, you could like it more
[11:44] <ciscosurfer> concept10: looks that way...I'm was answering a question for someone else... the emacs questions wasn't mine..:-)
[11:44] <n2diy> adaptr: whatever, Dapper works for me, so I'm sticking with it.
[11:45] <leobloo1> i know, i've seen it beforebut now when I click on repositories from settigns in synaptic nothing changes =o/
[11:45] <zeer88> juano, can you help me?...
[11:45] <concept10> ciscosurfer, oh, okay
[11:45] <adaptr> n2diy: that's rather a different stance than the one before, isn't it ? :P
[11:45] <juano> zeer88: with rythmbox?
[11:45] <zeer88> it happens with mp3's
[11:45] <zeer88> yes
[11:45] <Trunkz> adaptr: I ment for doing the ubuntu install via the minimal.iso, what do I just do? Mount the CD and thats it :O
[11:45] <nn531> juano: k, how is it wmv files?
[11:45] <adaptr> Trunkz: yes
[11:45] <HelpWanted> hello everybody
[11:45] <juano> nn531: install win32codecs
[11:45] <Trunkz> fair enuf :p
[11:45] <adaptr> Trunkz: surely it has documentation
[11:45] <nn531> juano: tried.. it worked on the first video then nothing else
[11:45] <Trunkz> I actually did a search over at the forums
[11:45] <juano> zeer88: try installing win32codecs and mp3 support from repos
[11:46] <Trunkz> All I got was a guide on doing the netinstall on floppy
[11:46] <n2diy> adaptr: I'll stand by my amatuer stats., :)
[11:46] <juano> nn531: mm wait a sec i got a link
[11:46] <zeer88> i have all that juano
[11:46] <Trunkz> Appreciate the help tho :)
[11:46] <zeer88> juano, i used automatix to do it...
[11:46] <adaptr> n2diy: we should have a poll
[11:46] <zeer88> it plays sound...
[11:46] <snook353> yeah! :D
[11:46] <zeer88> just doesn't plays it with quality on rythmbox
[11:46] <n2diy> adaptr: you going to keep track of 955 answers?
[11:46] <HelpWanted> could someone helpme out on a problem ? i seem to have corrupted my apt cache. ich cant install nor remove packages anymore. how can i fix it ?
[11:46] <juano> zeer88: mm i never used automatix since i personaly dont like it.., let me check some links
[11:47] <adaptr> n2diy: nah, I'd write a script
[11:47] <leobloo1> so? how can i restore "internet download" only?=o/
[11:47] <n2diy> adaptr: I'd be interested in the results.
[11:47] <fokuslee> hello everybody : )
[11:47] <adop> leobloo1: what do you mean nothing changes?
[11:47] <adaptr> juano: note that there are pros and cons to using automatix... it works like magic for some people, not at all for others, and look what ubotu has to say aboot it:
[11:48] <adaptr> !automatix
[11:48] <ubotwo> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:48] <leobloo1> it still asks me to insert the cd if i want to install something !
[11:48] <adaptr> "strongly discourage its use" - bleh, fine - then get edgy's multimedia support up to the same level!
[11:48] <adop> leobloo1: have u unset the checkbox?
[11:48] <leobloo1> i would if it only appeared but it doesn't =o/
[11:48] <fokuslee> yep most times using synaptic to install is not much more work plus u will know which program breaks ur system exactly
[11:48] <matjan> hi, does anyone have a  /usr/lib/python2.4/texmf directory on his/her system?
[11:48] <adaptr> ITYF "unchecked the setting" :)
[11:48] <juano> adaptr: yep thats why i dont like it
[11:49] <adop> leobloo1: oh
[11:49] <matjan> pythn-uno cannot be configured on my system, because that dir does not exist... this problem occurs since the latest openoffice.org security update...
[11:49] <leobloo1> i go settings-> preferences and I can't change anything related to cdrom, then I tried repositoris and nothing even shows up!
[11:50] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box isn't picking up the association?
[11:51] <SubMOA> Hola!  Does anybody know of any good streaming audio capture for ubuntu?
[11:51] <psplatter> streamripper isn't bad
[11:51] <zeer88> juano, any progress?
[11:52] <SubMOA> anything sort of plugin for xmms?
[11:52] <juano> zeer88: sec
[11:53] <juano> zeer88: did you install this: rhythmbox-dbg?
[11:53] <zeer88> juano: i'll see
[11:53] <juano> zeer88: try installing that
[11:53] <adop> leobloo1: i have no idea what this could be
[11:53] <break_> yay for backing up 150gb of crap
[11:53] <break_> :(
[11:53] <break_> onto dvd!
[11:54] <juano> zeer88: its good to install this also : gstreamer0.8-plugins
[11:54] <break_> i'm afraid windows will break my drive like it did with my last dying hard drive
[11:54] <leobloo1> I even tried from admin software sources but it doesn'teven open =o/
[11:54] <leobloo1> wtf?
[11:54] <psplatter> I tried to install Ubuntu Server a few times, After running hardware detection during installation, it gives me a blue screen with a grey box at the bottom into which I can type (to no effect). After a couple minutes my keyboard locks up. I tried both 6.10 and 6.06.1, but neither works. I downloaded with bittorrent, so it's a good iso, and I tried burning at 4x so it's not the cds. Any ideas?
[11:55] <break_> alright people
[11:55] <break_> wait, nevermind
[11:55] <break_> i have an old rig missing a hard drive
[11:55] <break_> i want to do something with it :p
[11:55] <psplatter> knoppix?
[11:55] <sly007> What is your favorite bittorent client on linux?
[11:56] <juano> nn531: try installing mplayer and kaffeine, 2 great players
[11:56] <Sick-Boy> hi
[11:56] <moniker42> hi, how do i find my php.exe file?
[11:56] <Stormx2> sly007: Azureus
[11:56] <break_> i think i might want to turn that old system into a router?
[11:56] <compengi> sly007, auzareus is good
[11:56] <juano> nn531: deb http://ubuntu.moshen.de/ edgy misc multimedia   ---> this repo is for getting mplayer
[11:56] <moniker42> "sudo find" doesn't appear to work...
[11:56] <Sick-Boy> anyone have a dvb-t ???
[11:56] <Stormx2> moniker42: You're on ubuntu, there isn't a php.exe file
[11:56] <nn531> juano: i installed mplayer and when I do the plugin thing for mozilla it says it should play wmvs
[11:56] <zeer88> juano: I have gstreamer0.10-plugins installed...
[11:57] <mnoir> locate php
[11:57] <juano> zeer88: ok good, did you install the package i told you before?
[11:57] <zeer88> yes
[11:57] <zeer88> i'll try it now ;)
[11:57] <moniker42> well how do i run the php interpreter then? :(
[11:57] <juano> zeer88: ok
[11:57] <Stormx2> moniker42: if you're looking for a command-line interpretter outside of the apache integration check out php-cli
[11:57] <mnoir> uuh that is gonna find an awful lot! sorry
[11:58] <moniker42> Stormx2, where's that?
[11:58] <eternaljoy> I need to run a webphone .exe file. Can I do that using Ubuntu any way?
[11:58] <Stormx2> moniker42: In the repos....
[11:58] <adaptr> !wine | eternaljoy
[11:58] <ubotwo> eternaljoy: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:58] <xxtlosxx> hey guys i have a problem, i have an ati 1300 should i be using the binary drivers from the site or should i be using the open source radeon drivers?????
[11:58] <moniker42> Stormx2, repos?
[11:59] <Sick-Boy> anyone have a dvb-t ???
[11:59] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[11:59] <adaptr> xxtlosxx: where does that qualify as a *problem* ? :)
[11:59] <Stormx2> !apt
[11:59] <ubotwo> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:59] <eternaljoy> adaptr: wine will allow me to run  MS windows .exe file?
[11:59] <xxtlosxx> well it does, i was using the binary one, and i was using beryl, beryl updated itself today, and now, i can't login to ubuntun graphically....
[11:59] <xxtlosxx> and before i was using the binary drivers
[12:00] <Morn\> I have a small homepage
[12:00] <xxtlosxx> i followeed this documentation
[12:00] <xxtlosxx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:00] <Morn\> Am I allowed to use the ubuntu logo and link it to ubuntus homepage probably with a nice little text "Get ubuntu"?
[12:00] <zeer88> juano, should i reboot?
[12:00] <zeer88> i tried it now and it is the same =\
[12:00] <xxtlosxx> and it did not help.. my screen is moving like a slug... i dont know what happened because all i did was reboot after updates...
[12:00] <juano> zeer88: mm nope, it should change if it works.. mm no luck then , let me keep checking and lets see if i can find something
[12:01] <adaptr> eternaljoy: when I post a link for you, you do not investigate ?