=== Null [n=Chypher@81-208-83-251.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:31] hi to all. [12:31] hey === dosnlinux [n=tester@ip70-177-214-103.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:31] i've a problem with xubuntu's installation [12:31] installing(?) sorry , my english is not well [12:32] well, can you explain? [12:32] yes. === arentoine [n=robillal@bas11-montreal02-1128562987.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] to resolve some problem (...) i try "installation of another os " [12:32] with partition magic [12:33] are you on? [12:33] yeah [12:33] well, [12:33] after partition (..) i restart pc with xubuntu alternate cd inside [12:34] is the purpose of /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs to check for GNOME/KDE laptop daemons? [12:34] and to finish the procedure I had to run windows again so partition magic [12:34] that's o do with power management actually. Standby and such. [12:35] but from cd installer i was not able (because choosing the option "boot from first hd" i have the page "there's no operatuve system") [12:36] just curios, what's your native language? [12:36] cefellow: I know, but I'm curious about it's purpose in the whole suspend/standby process [12:36] so i try to installa xubuntu , but there is no file system in the hard disk [12:36] italian [12:37] !it [12:37] Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! [12:37] no xubuntu italian channel I think though. [12:37] but what you're doing seems general enough. [12:37] try in there. [12:37] don't you undertstand a world? [12:37] I understand the basic ideas, but I miss the details. [12:38] thx === Null [n=Chypher@81-208-83-251.fastres.net] has left #xubuntu ["Sto] === dosnlinux [n=tester@ip70-177-214-103.hr.hr.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === dosnlinux [n=tester@ip70-177-214-103.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:41] Hi - wanted to let you all know that we just added support for Xubuntu installs to Instalinux [12:41] please test it and let me know if you find any problems [12:47] Sounds Fun. === kishan [n=kishan@74.12.20.166] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] hi [12:50] any one in here [12:51] i have problem with my menus can any one help me [12:52] what's the problem? === blanky [n=blanky@pool-72-67-112-124.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] the problem is they are no more there [12:53] i mean they disappered when i logged in [12:53] that happens sometimes [12:53] do you still have the panel on the desktop? [12:53] how to get those menu panel back [12:53] right click the panel, click Add Item, and add the XFCE menu, which is near the bottom. [12:53] now i am in gnome [12:53] there is no panel at all === blanky [n=blanky@pool-72-67-112-124.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu ["Bye] [12:54] in gnome i have panels working [12:54] but in xfce there are no panels [12:54] run xfce4-panel when in xfce [12:54] how to run [12:54] sorry i am new to linux [12:54] press alt+f2 and type xterm [12:54] alt+f2 [12:54] ok [12:55] who needs the xterm? [12:55] well, I couldn't remember if it was Terminal or terminal [12:55] wait i will get my laptop so that i can chat and do it simultaneously === decaelo [n=decaelo@CPE00500471c243-CM0011ae8dd0a0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:56] I guess I could have always used xfterm4 too :P [12:56] neither is needed. He's only running one command. === kishan_ [n=kishan@74.12.20.166] has joined #xubuntu [12:57] hi i am here now [12:57] I was going to go the xfsetting-show way [12:58] just type xfce4-panel into the run dialog (alt+f2) [12:58] still only 1 command I guess [12:58] ok one minute i am logging out of gnome [12:58] kishan_: AND make sure you save your session when you log out. [12:58] thats what i did alwys [12:59] actually my ram on desktop is only 128 mb so wanted to run xubuntu [12:59] save session is a checkbox in the Quit dialog. [12:59] make sure it's checked when you next log out. [12:59] getting the panel working? [01:00] cool [01:00] thanks [01:00] i got them back [01:00] :) [01:00] it was it was so simple [01:00] nice [01:01] one more problem [01:01] when i press quit which is on the panel [01:01] any way to get the right ctrl+alt work the same as the left? [01:01] it asking for panel quit [01:02] right now only left ctrl+alt+arrow will let me switch work spaces [01:03] sorry now on my panel there are no menu items [01:04] right click on the panel and select add new item [01:05] yes i did it [01:05] but the problem with the quit icon is the same [01:06] previously it used to ask for log out suspend hibernate [01:06] now its asking quit panel === echosystm [n=echosyst@dsl-203-113-236-74.SA.netspace.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === kishan_ [n=kishan@74.12.20.166] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp105-182.lns4.adl4.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d44-215.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:54] Hey there Jester45 === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-211-36-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === Jester46 [n=Jester45@72-161-141-51.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@R775f.r.ppp-pool.de] has left #xubuntu [] === Draconicus [n=Draconic@c-71-232-0-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:15] Hey, Xubuntu comes with gparted already installed, right? [02:20] only on the livecd [02:20] then it's automatically removed in the last section of the installation [02:24] Um.. [02:24] Well, I'm installing with the alternate CD. Is it on the CD repository? [02:27] yes i thinkj === dosnlinux [n=tester@ip70-177-214-103.hr.hr.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === johnsyn [n=dsl@201-43-162-225.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@R775f.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === priit__ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === mesarpe [n=mesarpe@host183.201-252-142.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] exit === Jester45 [n=Jester45@207-119-236-236.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === mesarpe [n=mesarpe@host183.201-252-142.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] hi, i installed xubuntu 7.04 alpha or beta release... i want to say... that it works really good... but I found some bugs :( [03:13] well... its not done yet [03:14] !bugs [03:14] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots [03:14] please search for the bug b4 your file a report [03:15] ok === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.49] has joined #xubuntu === snook353 [n=lee@24-197-132-105.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu [03:26] yea cellow === snook353 [n=lee@24-197-132-105.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has left #xubuntu [] [03:27] exit === priit__ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === nosiop [i=not@gateway/tor/x-7bb22c576e22df5a] has joined #xubuntu [03:47] i have a problem with dd ing a dvd into iso [03:48] i have done this b4 many times but on this dvd after i copy 340mbish it just clicks === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === nbjayme [n=chatzill@125.60.240.202] has joined #xubuntu [04:05] hello, anybody know of a navy simulator program that runs on Linux commercial and / or FOSS? [04:06] nope [04:06] try googling [04:07] thanks. i tried no desirable result yet. === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [04:16] how do I turn on swat? I tried /etc/init.d/swat but that doesn't exist. [04:17] and what's swats' port number? [04:21] anyone here use azureus's irc bot? === `Orum [i=not@gateway/tor/x-16188299d3febb43] has joined #xubuntu === `Orum [i=not@gateway/tor/x-16188299d3febb43] has left #xubuntu [] === somerville32_ [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034092135.nb.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu === firefish [n=yhy@58.212.227.253] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus_ [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32_ [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034092135.nb.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus_ pokes cellofellow === cellofellow isn't available right now === nalioth_ [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu [05:12] anybody know how to connect to the "Homes" samba share in LinNeighborhood? [05:12] I tried using my UNIX username and password. Do I have to set up a smbpasswd? === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === snook353 [n=lee@24-197-132-105.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:22] what is the java deb in synaptic called? [05:23] the runtime environment - firefox says i don't have it [05:23] sun-java5-jre [05:23] something like that [05:23] !java [05:23] To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository [05:23] !find sun [05:24] Found: libapache-mod-tsunami, libdatetime-event-sunrise-perl, libsundials-serial-dev, libsundials-serial-doc, libsundials-serial0 (and 12 others) [05:24] blegh [05:24] !info sun-java5 [05:24] Package sun-java5 does not exist in any distro I know [05:24] You had it right the first time. [05:24] !info sun-java5-jre [05:24] sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB [05:25] :) [05:26] i've got the binary , but not the source - i need the source repos too? [05:27] no source, it's a binary proprietary version of Java. [05:29] cellofellow, Java is released under the GPL my friend :P [05:29] somerville32: 1.5 wasn't [05:29] Not the one in edgy though, right? [05:30] right [05:30] Feisty, on the other hand... [05:30] ;) [05:30] Oh right right... people still use Edgy and Dapper, lol [05:30] that's the life of a dev, I guess. [05:31] using Alpha software is a way of life. [05:31] alpha software i can tollerate, what scares me is alpha compilers ;) [05:33] can i just wget this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/ ? [05:33] haha [05:33] ok [05:33] ? [05:33] yeah, but what's wrong with apt-get? [05:34] idk why it don't show up - i enabled the repos [05:34] apt-get update [05:34] k [05:34] aptitude ;) [05:34] you have to download the package lists [05:34] oh, yes === psykidellic [n=psykidel@12-217-239-18.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:34] but apt-get is ok for update IMHO [05:35] don't intertwine the use of package managers ... bad things can happen ;) [05:35] atleast... they have to me in the past [05:35] the apt-cache is the same, and apt-get update and aptitude update work just fine. === firefish [n=yhy@218.2.201.80] has joined #xubuntu [05:35] I mean they work the same. [05:35] hi....i am trying to install xubuntu for the first time...i got this machine from my proff in school which was successfuly running debian before so I am sure that this machine works, but when I booth up and select to install (both VGA and non-VGA mode), the installation just stops after some time saying: 1 Analog Input Cannot display this video mode [05:35] so, why bother? [05:35] i have a 19 inch dell monitor.....what can be the problem? [05:36] cellofellow: apt-cache != apt-get [05:36] what can be the problem? [05:36] I know, but apt-get update updates the apt-cache, and so does aptitude [05:37] psykidellic: sounds like X is trying to display out of range ... could be because your graphics card supports some crazy hi resolution [05:37] yeah, don't do super high refresh rates or resolutions [05:37] max it supports 1280 X [05:37] cellofellow: yeah, but aptitude does more checking and i'm not sure if you update apt-get if aptitude gets all the info its supposed to [05:37] never run into any problems here, adam. [05:38] maxamillion and cellofellow: how do i change it? [05:38] psykidellic: right, but if you graphics card can push 1600x1200, then X probably runs at that ... [05:38] it was by deafult [05:38] The update is the same. It's just a list. [05:38] cellofellow: fair enough [05:38] It's during the install procedure that it does it's special dependency tracking. [05:38] psykidellic: ctrl+alt+f1 ... does that give you a command line login? [05:38] *its [05:38] PuMpErNiCkLe: rgr [05:38] hold on [05:38] i will restart and check...the installation machine is right besie me [05:38] psykidellic: sorry, we've like 3 conversations running. [05:39] no problem [05:39] i can figure it out [05:39] there is an option [05:39] during installation [05:40] f4 that gives me VGA input [05:40] which resolution should i select? [05:40] like 1024x768 for now. [05:40] is this what i add to the apt list? [05:40] ttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/ [05:40] snook353: no [05:40] one sec... [05:40] psykidellic, What version of Xubuntu are you running? [05:40] k [05:40] teh latest [05:40] downloaded yesterday [05:40] There are two "latest" === lebowski [n=verma@12-210-137-165.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:41] 6.10 [05:41] 6.06 and 6.10 [05:41] Ah, ok. [05:41] edgy eft [05:41] snook353: have line like this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse [05:41] okie, the VGA input shows: 1024 X 768 X 16, 24, 32 [05:41] without the updates bit [05:41] what is the third number? [05:41] wrong line, same idea [05:42] and which one should i choose? [05:42] psykidellic: the bit depth, how many bits per pixel for colors. [05:42] psykidellic: 24 should be fine [05:43] hmm..but ctrl+alt_f1 dosnt take me to command line installation [05:43] hmm, i already hav ethat one, cello [05:44] with the multiverse in there? [05:44] yeah [05:44] psykidellic: not installation .. login, but either way that's a bad thing [05:44] psykidellic: perhaps try the alt CD. [05:44] Oh, n/m not that cello === luckyone [n=jordan@CPE-75-87-69-197.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:45] hello? [05:45] hello [05:45] hi [05:45] do you know how to debug issues with scanners? === cellofellow must be crazy. He's dd imaging a hard drive over smbfs from a laptop to his computer. [05:45] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2033789#post2033789 [05:46] I am having trouble getting my CX5400 to be recognized by xsane [05:46] how do I downgrade xsane and xsane-common to dapper versions that worked perfectly? [05:47] um, [05:47] there has to be a way... [05:47] never tried that. [05:47] luckyone: no clue, but that doesn't seem entirely xubuntu specific so maybe someone in #ubuntu would be able to help :/ [05:47] maxamillon: still giving the same analog input error [05:47] I think it is rather impossible to get any help in #ubuntu [05:47] sometimes even I go to ##linux [05:48] and when yo usaid alt CD [05:48] plus, they often like to speak of gnome utils I don't have... [05:48] you meant alt and C and D? [05:48] psykidellic: no ... alternate installation compact disc [05:48] psykidellic: it's the alternate CD, with a the text-based Debian style installer. [05:48] aaah [05:49] shit.... [05:49] i will have to download it [05:49] psykidellic: www.xubuntu.org/get :) [05:49] :( [05:49] !language [05:49] !language | psykidellic === maxamillion slaps ubotu [05:49] overloaded ubotu I think [05:49] pay attention! [05:50] sleep! [05:50] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [05:50] psykidellic: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [05:50] so far 350MB of 18.5GB of hard drive copied over the ethernet [05:50] cellofellow: slow and steady wins the race [05:50] yeah [05:50] this is my attempt at linux on that laptop I was talking about [05:52] sorry! [05:52] sory what? [05:52] that was offtopic, And I moved it the offtopic channel. was talking with maxamillion [05:53] cellofellow, Instead of recommending people edit their sources.list file by hand, please point them to Applications > System > Software Sources [05:54] I've never used that tool. :( sorry. [05:54] sorry for the language...as ubotu told me! [05:54] ubotu is a bot [05:54] Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:54] haha [05:55] hahahaha [05:55] i didnt know that :0 [05:55] first time in this room [05:55] !bot [05:55] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [05:55] !all-knowing [05:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about all-knowing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:55] all knowing, he says, but look at this: [05:55] !anything [05:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:56] :) [05:56] !abuse [05:56] The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [05:56] bah!... not what i thought i would get [05:57] !bot abuse [05:57] Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot [05:57] :) [05:57] !bot snack [05:57] ? [05:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about bot snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:57] maxmillion: i got into text mode...i was pressing the keys at wrong place :) while booting in text mode, its showing the error [05:57] buffer i/o error on device hdc, logical block 1 [05:58] hdc is a cd? or a hdd? [05:58] psykidellic: bad install or bad hard drice [05:58] drive* [05:58] !botsnack [05:58] Yum! [05:58] :) [05:58] and then bam, it again went to analog inouyt problem [05:58] <3 [05:58] big problems [05:58] so hdc is what??? cd or hdd? [05:58] uber problems ... [05:58] psykidellic: depends on your system [05:58] hahahahaahhahahahahahahaha [05:59] mines a DVD drive, yours could be a Zip drive. who knows. [05:59] psykidellic: you might need to download the ultimate boot cd and run a DFT on that hard drive [05:59] but the professor was using this machine without any problem...okie..i have kubuntu....i will try that but i dont think it will help.... [05:59] nope [05:59] i hv no clue about ultimate boot cd and DFT :) sorry, from WIndows BG and previous knowledge of only RH which used to work fine.... [06:00] BG = background [06:01] psykidellic: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ <--- ultimate boot cd, the _best_ hardware diagnostics tools bandwidth can aquire [06:01] psykidellic: DFT == drive fitness test ... its an IBM tool offered on that cd [06:03] aaah [06:03] got it [06:03] downloading.... [06:05] :) [06:06] actually i didnt start download [06:06] i went to the page [06:06] http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html - strange....there is no link to the iso image file! [06:06] close enough [06:06] psykidellic: yeah, they generally host them in compressed formats, you have to decompress to get the .iso [06:08] hmmm [06:08] why is that? its just more pain in the A! [06:09] psykidellic: costs them less in bandwidth ;) [06:09] psykidellic: bandwidth is expensive ... :/ [06:11] hmmmm [06:18] psykidellic, why is a compressed format a pain in the A .. they are quick to download ... save you your valuable time [06:19] I would prefer a compressed iso .. :) [06:19] all you have to do is gunzip said file [06:20] yeah, i guess you are right! === darren1 [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === decaelo [n=decaelo@CPE00500471c243-CM0011ae8dd0a0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:43] okie...ultimatecd installed [06:43] and max went to sleep [06:45] yeah saw that but i cant find drive fitness test anywhere..... [06:45] I don't know, sorry, I never used Ultimate Boot CD. === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.49] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.86] has joined #xubuntu === aktee [n=marthaja@bas1-montrealak-1128547652.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [07:20] hello everyone! [07:21] just a quick question -- how can I remove Xubuntu's default application, without removing the package "Xubuntu-desktop" [07:21] it seems like when I try to remove GXINE -- it always try to remove xubuntu-desktop with it [07:22] how are you trying to remove it? [07:22] and I know that if I remove xubuntu desktop, well, it aint gonna work no more, (i tried yesterday when I tried the same thing, but with ubuntu. It removed ubuntu-desktop and LOL!!) [07:22] I tried by apt-get -remove, and I tried with synaptic [07:22] maybe there's some kind of special command so that it removes just the gxine, not the whole deal? [07:23] if this is not possible.. hmm.. [07:23] how about, really defining the default application of a file extension -- not with Thunar, but universally defining the default application (i'm having some problem with Opera that's why) [07:27] ? :(.. === aktee [n=marthaja@bas1-montrealak-1128547652.dsl.bell.ca] has left #xubuntu [] === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === firefish [n=yhy@218.2.201.80] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] hi === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === DarthShrine [n=angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === undertitan [n=dan@adsl-68-93-133-225.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === undertitan [n=dan@adsl-68-93-133-225.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has left #xubuntu [] === aktee [n=marthaja@bas1-montrealak-1128547652.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === darren1 is now known as darrend [08:00] aktee: with regards to your question about removing xubuntu-desktop: [08:01] xubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that tells what standard apps to install [08:01] so.. it's safe to remove? [08:01] removing it won't actually remove any of those apps. it sounds worse than it is. [08:01] PHEW :| [08:01] WOW last time I did it for ubuntu-desktop, It didn't boot anymore [08:01] LOL [08:02] it won't remove your actual desktop [08:02] must have done something wrong [08:02] cool thing ! [08:02] yesss. [08:02] I have another question.. hmm.. [08:03] ask [08:03] i know, using linux means that I should RTFM, but.. I'm not sure where to search this, in ubuntu, in xubuntu, in linux in general, in xfce, etc.. [08:03] hmm, I must have misconfigured my keyboard at the installation [08:03] because I ALT-CAR + 2 doesnt give me the "e-mail A" anymore [08:03] but when i configure it for 104 standard keyboard, it works [08:04] the thing is, I don't know how to put it default [08:04] don't know offhand, but someone else here might [08:05] so, you want to make 104 standard keyboard your default? [08:05] yeah, wait, i think i found it [08:05] it's probably concerning Xorg [08:05] (sorry kinda new to this.) [08:06] http://ubuntu.sabza.org/2006/10/13/xubuntu-easily-switch-keyboard-layout/ [08:06] might be interesting [08:07] yes, but that's for switching keyboard layout, while I only want 1. [08:07] oh look [08:07] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=322374 [08:07] :D [08:07] ah, ok [08:08] never had to change my keyboard layout before [08:08] hmm.. [08:09] hmm ... /etc/X11/xorg.conf that's supposed to show me something when I open it with Mousepad, right? [08:09] sure [08:10] oop, got it. I went too fast and typed Xorg.config hahahah my bad :) [08:10] aktee: you can blame your keyboard ;) [08:10] hmm.. doesn't work [08:10] it's already 104.. and layout is already CA [08:11] aw.. [08:12] o well, thanks for the help :D [08:12] aktee: what is the CAR in ALT_CAR + 2 [08:12] the Commercial A [08:12] hmm [08:13] you know, before gmail.com [08:13] ok [08:13] like, aktee"a"gmail.com [08:13] seems like my AltCar just doesnt work [08:13] with you now [08:13] can't do the wavy thing too. (dunno it's named) [08:13] tilde [08:14] exactly [08:14] =) [08:14] so you are pressing shift + 2 to get @? [08:14] or ALT key? [08:14] no, I can't do it at all lol [08:15] it's supposed to be ctrl+alt+2 [08:15] or Alt-CAR + 2 [08:15] but now it's neither of them [08:15] maybe it's because of Xgl [08:15] trouble came after xgl and beryl [08:15] those are two messy programs :) [08:15] i thought it might be related to the fact that xubuntu automatically installs with the right-hand alt key disabled [08:16] ? [08:16] wow [08:16] where? [08:16] :| maybe it's that [08:16] try the other alt key [08:17] hmm it's assigned to a hotkey for XGL [08:17]