[12:31] <Null> hi to all.
[12:31] <cellofellow> hey
[12:31] <Null> i've a problem with xubuntu's installation
[12:31] <Null> installing(?) sorry , my english is not well
[12:32] <cellofellow> well, can you explain?
[12:32] <Null> yes.
[12:32] <Null> to resolve some problem (...) i try "installation of another os "
[12:32] <Null> with partition magic
[12:33] <Null> are you on?
[12:33] <cellofellow> yeah
[12:33] <Null> well,
[12:33] <Null> after partition (..) i restart pc with xubuntu alternate cd inside
[12:34] <dosnlinux> is the purpose of /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs to check for GNOME/KDE laptop daemons?
[12:34] <Null> and to finish the procedure I had to run windows again so partition magic
[12:34] <cellofellow> that's o do with power management actually. Standby and such.
[12:35] <Null> but from cd installer i was not able (because choosing the option "boot from first hd" i have the page "there's no operatuve system")
[12:36] <cellofellow> just curios, what's your native language?
[12:36] <dosnlinux> cefellow: I know, but I'm curious about it's purpose in the whole suspend/standby process
[12:36] <Null> so i try to installa xubuntu , but there is no file system in the hard disk
[12:36] <Null> italian
[12:37] <cellofellow> !it
[12:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:37] <cellofellow> no xubuntu italian channel I think though.
[12:37] <cellofellow> but what you're doing seems general enough.
[12:37] <cellofellow> try in there.
[12:37] <Null> don't you undertstand a world?
[12:37] <cellofellow> I understand the basic ideas, but I miss the details.
[12:38] <Null> thx
[12:41] <cslater> Hi - wanted to let you all know that we just added support for Xubuntu installs to Instalinux
[12:41] <cslater> please test it and let me know if you find any problems
[12:47] <gunny01> Sounds Fun.
[12:50] <kishan> hi
[12:50] <kishan> any one in here
[12:51] <kishan> i have problem with my menus can any one help me
[12:52] <dosnlinux> what's the problem?
[12:52] <kishan> the problem is they are no more there
[12:53] <kishan> i mean they disappered when i logged in
[12:53] <cellofellow> that happens sometimes
[12:53] <dosnlinux> do you still have the panel on the desktop?
[12:53] <kishan> how to get those menu panel back
[12:53] <cellofellow> right click the panel, click Add Item, and add the XFCE menu, which is near the bottom.
[12:53] <kishan> now i am in gnome
[12:53] <kishan> there is no panel at all
[12:54] <kishan> in gnome i have panels working
[12:54] <kishan> but in xfce there are no panels
[12:54] <cellofellow> run xfce4-panel when in xfce
[12:54] <kishan> how to run
[12:54] <kishan> sorry i am new to linux
[12:54] <dosnlinux> press alt+f2 and type xterm
[12:54] <cellofellow> alt+f2
[12:54] <kishan> ok
[12:55] <cellofellow> who needs the xterm?
[12:55] <dosnlinux> well, I couldn't remember if it was Terminal or terminal
[12:55] <kishan> wait i will get my laptop so that i can chat and do it simultaneously
[12:56] <dosnlinux> I guess I could have always used xfterm4 too :P
[12:56] <cellofellow> neither is needed. He's only running one command.
[12:57] <kishan_> hi i am here now
[12:57] <dosnlinux> I was going to go the xfsetting-show way
[12:58] <cellofellow> just type xfce4-panel into the run dialog (alt+f2)
[12:58] <dosnlinux> still only 1 command I guess
[12:58] <kishan_> ok one minute i am logging out of gnome
[12:58] <cellofellow> kishan_: AND make sure you save your session when you log out.
[12:58] <kishan_> thats what i did alwys
[12:59] <kishan_> actually my ram on desktop is only 128 mb so wanted to run xubuntu
[12:59] <cellofellow> save session is a checkbox in the Quit dialog.
[12:59] <cellofellow> make sure it's checked when you next log out.
[12:59] <cellofellow> getting the panel working?
[01:00] <kishan_> cool
[01:00] <kishan_> thanks
[01:00] <kishan_> i got them back
[01:00] <cellofellow> :)
[01:00] <kishan_> it was it was so simple
[01:00] <kishan_> nice
[01:01] <kishan_> one more problem
[01:01] <kishan_> when i press quit which is on the panel
[01:01] <dosnlinux> any way to get the right ctrl+alt work the same as the left?
[01:01] <kishan_> it asking for panel quit
[01:02] <dosnlinux> right now only left ctrl+alt+arrow will let me switch work spaces
[01:03] <kishan_> sorry now on my panel there are no menu items
[01:04] <dosnlinux> right click on the panel and select add new item
[01:05] <kishan_> yes i did it
[01:05] <kishan_> but the problem with the quit icon is the same
[01:06] <kishan_> previously it used to ask for log out suspend hibernate
[01:06] <kishan_> now its asking quit panel
[01:54] <cellofellow> Hey there Jester45
[02:15] <Draconicus> Hey, Xubuntu comes with gparted already installed, right?
[02:20] <cellofellow> only on the livecd
[02:20] <cellofellow> then it's automatically removed in the last section of the installation
[02:24] <Draconicus> Um..
[02:24] <Draconicus> Well, I'm installing with the alternate CD. Is it on the CD repository?
[02:27] <Jester46> yes i thinkj
[02:58] <mesarpe> exit
[03:13] <mesarpe> hi, i installed xubuntu 7.04 alpha or beta release... i want to say... that it works really good... but I found some bugs :(
[03:13] <Jester45> well... its not done yet
[03:14] <Jester45> !bugs
[03:14] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:14] <Jester45> please search for the bug b4 your file a report
[03:15] <mesarpe> ok
[03:26] <Jester45> yea cellow
[03:27] <mesarpe> exit
[03:47] <Jester45> i have a problem with dd ing a dvd into iso
[03:48] <Jester45> i have done this b4 many times but on this dvd after i copy 340mbish it just clicks
[04:05] <nbjayme> hello, anybody know of a navy simulator program that runs on Linux commercial and / or FOSS?
[04:06] <Jester45> nope
[04:06] <Jester45> try googling
[04:07] <nbjayme> thanks.  i tried no desirable result yet.
[04:16] <cellofellow> how do I turn on swat? I tried /etc/init.d/swat but that doesn't exist.
[04:17] <cellofellow> and what's swats' port number?
[04:21] <Jester45> anyone here use azureus's irc bot?
[05:12] <cellofellow> anybody know how to connect to the "Homes" samba share in LinNeighborhood?
[05:12] <cellofellow> I tried using my UNIX username and password. Do I have to set up a smbpasswd?
[05:22] <snook353> what is the java deb in synaptic called?
[05:23] <snook353> the runtime environment - firefox says i don't have it
[05:23] <cellofellow> sun-java5-jre
[05:23] <cellofellow> something like that
[05:23] <cellofellow> !java
[05:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:23] <cellofellow> !find sun
[05:24] <ubotu> Found: libapache-mod-tsunami, libdatetime-event-sunrise-perl, libsundials-serial-dev, libsundials-serial-doc, libsundials-serial0 (and 12 others)
[05:24] <cellofellow> blegh
[05:24] <maxamillion> !info sun-java5
[05:24] <ubotu> Package sun-java5 does not exist in any distro I know
[05:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You had it right the first time.
[05:24] <maxamillion> !info sun-java5-jre
[05:24] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[05:25] <maxamillion> :)
[05:26] <snook353> i've got the binary , but not the source - i need the source repos too?
[05:27] <cellofellow> no source, it's a binary proprietary version of Java.
[05:29] <somerville32> cellofellow, Java is released under the GPL my friend :P
[05:29] <maxamillion> somerville32: 1.5 wasn't
[05:29] <cellofellow> Not the one in edgy though, right?
[05:30] <maxamillion> right
[05:30] <cellofellow> Feisty, on the other hand...
[05:30] <maxamillion> ;)
[05:30] <somerville32> Oh right right... people still use Edgy and Dapper, lol
[05:30] <cellofellow> that's the life of a dev, I guess.
[05:31] <cellofellow> using Alpha software is a way of life.
[05:31] <maxamillion> alpha software i can tollerate, what scares me is alpha compilers ;)
[05:33] <snook353> can i just wget this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/ ?
[05:33] <cellofellow> haha
[05:33] <snook353> ok
[05:33] <snook353> ?
[05:33] <cellofellow> yeah, but what's wrong with apt-get?
[05:34] <snook353> idk why it don't show up - i enabled the repos
[05:34] <cellofellow> apt-get update
[05:34] <snook353> k
[05:34] <maxamillion> aptitude ;)
[05:34] <cellofellow> you have to download the package lists
[05:34] <cellofellow> oh, yes
[05:34] <cellofellow> but apt-get is ok for update IMHO
[05:35] <maxamillion> don't intertwine the use of package managers ... bad things can happen ;)
[05:35] <maxamillion> atleast... they have to me in the past
[05:35] <cellofellow> the apt-cache is the same, and apt-get update and aptitude update work just fine.
[05:35] <cellofellow> I mean they work the same.
[05:35] <psykidellic> hi....i am trying to install xubuntu for the first time...i got this machine from my proff in school which was successfuly running debian before so I am sure that this machine works, but when I booth up and select to install (both VGA and non-VGA mode), the installation just stops after some time saying: 1 Analog Input Cannot display this video mode
[05:35] <cellofellow> so, why bother?
[05:35] <psykidellic> i have a 19 inch dell monitor.....what can be the problem?
[05:36] <maxamillion> cellofellow: apt-cache != apt-get
[05:36] <psykidellic> what can be the problem?
[05:36] <cellofellow> I know, but apt-get update updates the apt-cache, and so does aptitude
[05:37] <maxamillion> psykidellic: sounds like X is trying to display out of range ... could be because your graphics card supports some crazy hi resolution
[05:37] <cellofellow> yeah, don't do super high refresh rates or resolutions
[05:37] <psykidellic> max it supports 1280 X
[05:37] <maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah, but aptitude does more checking and i'm not sure if you update apt-get if aptitude gets all the info its supposed to
[05:37] <cellofellow> never run into any problems here, adam.
[05:38] <psykidellic> maxamillion and cellofellow: how do i change it?
[05:38] <maxamillion> psykidellic: right, but if you graphics card can push 1600x1200, then X probably runs at that ...
[05:38] <psykidellic> it was by deafult
[05:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> The update is the same.  It's just a list.
[05:38] <maxamillion> cellofellow: fair enough
[05:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's during the install procedure that it does it's special dependency tracking.
[05:38] <maxamillion> psykidellic: ctrl+alt+f1 ... does that give you a command line login?
[05:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *its
[05:38] <maxamillion> PuMpErNiCkLe: rgr
[05:38] <psykidellic> hold on
[05:38] <psykidellic> i will restart and check...the installation machine is right besie me
[05:38] <cellofellow> psykidellic:  sorry, we've like 3 conversations running.
[05:39] <psykidellic> no problem
[05:39] <psykidellic> i can figure it out
[05:39] <psykidellic> there is an option
[05:39] <psykidellic> during installation
[05:40] <psykidellic> f4 that gives me VGA input
[05:40] <psykidellic> which resolution should i select?
[05:40] <cellofellow> like 1024x768 for now.
[05:40] <snook353> is this what i add to the apt list?
[05:40] <snook353> ttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/
[05:40] <cellofellow> snook353: no
[05:40] <cellofellow> one sec...
[05:40] <somerville32> psykidellic, What version of Xubuntu are you running?
[05:40] <snook353> k
[05:40] <psykidellic> teh latest
[05:40] <psykidellic> downloaded yesterday
[05:40] <somerville32> There are two "latest"
[05:41] <psykidellic> 6.10
[05:41] <somerville32> 6.06 and 6.10
[05:41] <somerville32> Ah, ok.
[05:41] <psykidellic> edgy eft
[05:41] <cellofellow> snook353: have line like this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:41] <psykidellic> okie, the VGA input shows: 1024 X 768 X 16, 24, 32
[05:41] <cellofellow> without the updates bit
[05:41] <psykidellic> what is the third number?
[05:41] <cellofellow> wrong line, same idea
[05:42] <psykidellic> and which one should i choose?
[05:42] <cellofellow> psykidellic: the bit depth, how many bits per pixel for colors.
[05:42] <cellofellow> psykidellic: 24 should be fine
[05:43] <psykidellic> hmm..but ctrl+alt_f1 dosnt take me to command line installation
[05:43] <snook353> hmm, i already hav ethat one, cello
[05:44] <cellofellow> with the multiverse in there?
[05:44] <snook353> yeah
[05:44] <maxamillion> psykidellic: not installation .. login, but either way that's a bad thing
[05:44] <cellofellow> psykidellic: perhaps try the alt CD.
[05:44] <snook353> Oh, n/m not that cello
[05:45] <luckyone> hello?
[05:45] <psykidellic> hello
[05:45] <maxamillion> hi
[05:45] <luckyone> do you know how to debug issues with scanners?
[05:45] <luckyone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2033789#post2033789
[05:46] <luckyone> I am having trouble getting my CX5400 to be recognized by xsane
[05:46] <luckyone> how do I downgrade xsane and xsane-common to dapper versions that worked perfectly?
[05:47] <cellofellow> um,
[05:47] <cellofellow> there has to be a way...
[05:47] <cellofellow> never tried that.
[05:47] <maxamillion> luckyone: no clue, but that doesn't seem entirely xubuntu specific so maybe someone in #ubuntu would be able to help :/
[05:47] <psykidellic> maxamillon: still giving the same analog input error
[05:47] <luckyone> I think it is rather impossible to get any help in #ubuntu
[05:47] <cellofellow> sometimes even I go to ##linux
[05:48] <psykidellic> and when yo usaid alt CD
[05:48] <luckyone> plus, they often like to speak of gnome utils I don't have...
[05:48] <psykidellic> you meant alt and C and D?
[05:48] <maxamillion> psykidellic: no ... alternate installation compact disc
[05:48] <cellofellow> psykidellic: it's the alternate CD, with a the text-based Debian style installer.
[05:48] <psykidellic> aaah
[05:49] <psykidellic> shit....
[05:49] <psykidellic> i will have to download it
[05:49] <maxamillion> psykidellic: www.xubuntu.org/get :)
[05:49] <cellofellow> :(
[05:49] <cellofellow> !language
[05:49] <maxamillion> !language | psykidellic
[05:49] <cellofellow> overloaded ubotu I think
[05:49] <maxamillion> pay attention!
[05:50] <snook353> sleep!
[05:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:50] <ubotu> psykidellic: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:50] <cellofellow> so far 350MB of 18.5GB of hard drive copied over the ethernet
[05:50] <maxamillion> cellofellow: slow and steady wins the race
[05:50] <cellofellow> yeah
[05:50] <cellofellow> this is my attempt at linux on that laptop I was talking about
[05:52] <psykidellic> sorry!
[05:52] <cellofellow> sory what?
[05:52] <cellofellow> that was offtopic, And I moved it the offtopic channel. was talking with maxamillion
[05:53] <somerville32> cellofellow, Instead of recommending people edit their sources.list file by hand, please point them to Applications > System > Software Sources
[05:54] <cellofellow> I've never used that tool. :( sorry.
[05:54] <psykidellic> sorry for the language...as ubotu told me!
[05:54] <cellofellow> ubotu is a bot
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <cellofellow> haha
[05:55] <psykidellic> hahahaha
[05:55] <psykidellic> i didnt know that :0
[05:55] <psykidellic> first time in this room
[05:55] <cellofellow> !bot
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[05:55] <maxamillion> !all-knowing
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[05:55] <cellofellow> all knowing, he says, but look at this:
[05:55] <cellofellow> !anything
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[05:56] <maxamillion> :)
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[05:56] <maxamillion> bah!... not what i thought i would get
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[05:57] <maxamillion> :)
[05:57] <maxamillion> !bot snack
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[05:57] <psykidellic> maxmillion:  i got into text mode...i was pressing the keys at wrong place :) while booting in text mode, its showing the error
[05:57] <psykidellic> buffer i/o error on device hdc, logical block 1
[05:58] <cellofellow> hdc is a cd? or a hdd?
[05:58] <maxamillion> psykidellic: bad install or bad hard drice
[05:58] <maxamillion> drive*
[05:58] <maxamillion> !botsnack
[05:58] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:58] <maxamillion> :)
[05:58] <psykidellic> and then bam, it again went to analog inouyt problem
[05:58] <maxamillion> <3
[05:58] <cellofellow> big problems
[05:58] <psykidellic> so hdc is what??? cd or hdd?
[05:58] <maxamillion> uber problems ...
[05:58] <maxamillion> psykidellic: depends on your system
[05:58] <psykidellic> hahahahaahhahahahahahahaha
[05:59] <cellofellow> mines a DVD drive, yours could be a Zip drive. who knows.
[05:59] <maxamillion> psykidellic: you might need to download the ultimate boot cd and run a DFT on that hard drive
[05:59] <psykidellic> but the professor was using this machine without any problem...okie..i have kubuntu....i will try that but i dont think it will help....
[05:59] <maxamillion> nope
[05:59] <psykidellic> i hv no clue about ultimate boot cd and DFT :) sorry, from WIndows BG and previous knowledge of only RH which used to work fine....
[06:00] <psykidellic> BG = background
[06:01] <maxamillion> psykidellic: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ <--- ultimate boot cd, the _best_ hardware diagnostics tools bandwidth can aquire
[06:01] <maxamillion> psykidellic: DFT == drive fitness test ... its an IBM tool offered on that cd
[06:03] <psykidellic> aaah
[06:03] <psykidellic> got it
[06:03] <psykidellic> downloading....
[06:05] <maxamillion> :)
[06:06] <psykidellic> actually i didnt start download
[06:06] <psykidellic> i went to the page
[06:06] <psykidellic> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html - strange....there is no link to the iso image file!
[06:06] <maxamillion> close enough
[06:06] <maxamillion> psykidellic: yeah, they generally host them in compressed formats, you have to decompress to get the .iso
[06:08] <psykidellic> hmmm
[06:08] <psykidellic> why is that? its just more pain in the A!
[06:09] <maxamillion> psykidellic: costs them less in bandwidth ;)
[06:09] <maxamillion> psykidellic: bandwidth is expensive ... :/
[06:11] <psykidellic> hmmmm
[06:18] <lebowski> psykidellic, why is a compressed format a pain in the A .. they are quick to download ... save you your valuable time
[06:19] <lebowski> I would prefer a compressed iso .. :)
[06:19] <cellofellow> all you have to do is gunzip said file
[06:20] <psykidellic> yeah, i guess you are right!
[06:43] <psykidellic> okie...ultimatecd installed
[06:43] <cellofellow> and max went to sleep
[06:45] <psykidellic> yeah saw that but i cant find drive fitness test anywhere.....
[06:45] <cellofellow> I don't know, sorry, I never used Ultimate Boot CD.
[07:20] <aktee> hello everyone!
[07:21] <aktee> just a quick question -- how can I remove Xubuntu's default application, without removing the package "Xubuntu-desktop"
[07:21] <aktee> it seems like when I try to remove GXINE -- it always try to remove xubuntu-desktop with it
[07:22] <psykidellic> how are you trying to remove it?
[07:22] <aktee> and I know that if I remove xubuntu desktop, well, it aint gonna work no more, (i tried yesterday when I tried the same thing, but with ubuntu. It removed ubuntu-desktop and LOL!!)
[07:22] <aktee> I tried by apt-get -remove, and I tried with synaptic
[07:22] <aktee> maybe there's some kind of special command so that it removes just the gxine, not the whole deal?
[07:23] <aktee> if this is not possible.. hmm..
[07:23] <aktee> how about, really defining the default application of a file extension -- not with Thunar, but universally defining the default application (i'm having some problem with Opera that's why)
[07:27] <aktee> ? :(..
[07:33] <Commander-Crowe> hi
[08:00] <grumpymole> aktee: with regards to your question about removing xubuntu-desktop:
[08:01] <grumpymole> xubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that tells what standard apps to install
[08:01] <aktee> so.. it's safe to remove?
[08:01] <grumpymole> removing it won't actually remove any of those apps.  it sounds worse than it is.
[08:01] <aktee> PHEW :|
[08:01] <aktee> WOW last time I did it for ubuntu-desktop, It didn't boot anymore
[08:01] <aktee> LOL
[08:02] <grumpymole> it won't remove your actual desktop
[08:02] <aktee> must have done something wrong
[08:02] <aktee> cool thing !
[08:02] <aktee> yesss.
[08:02] <aktee> I have another question.. hmm..
[08:03] <grumpymole> ask
[08:03] <aktee> i know, using linux means that I should RTFM, but.. I'm not sure where to search this, in ubuntu, in xubuntu, in linux in general, in xfce, etc..
[08:03] <aktee> hmm, I must have misconfigured my keyboard at the installation
[08:03] <aktee> because I ALT-CAR + 2 doesnt give me the "e-mail A" anymore
[08:03] <aktee> but when i configure it for 104 standard keyboard, it works
[08:04] <aktee> the thing is, I don't know how to put it default
[08:04] <grumpymole> don't know offhand, but someone else here might
[08:05] <grumpymole> so, you want to make 104  standard keyboard your default?
[08:05] <aktee> yeah, wait, i think i found it
[08:05] <aktee> it's probably concerning Xorg
[08:05] <aktee> (sorry kinda new to this.)
[08:06] <grumpymole> http://ubuntu.sabza.org/2006/10/13/xubuntu-easily-switch-keyboard-layout/
[08:06] <grumpymole> might be interesting
[08:07] <aktee> yes, but that's for switching keyboard layout, while I only want 1.
[08:07] <aktee> oh look
[08:07] <aktee> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=322374
[08:07] <aktee> :D
[08:07] <grumpymole> ah, ok
[08:08] <grumpymole> never had to change my keyboard layout before
[08:08] <aktee> hmm..
[08:09] <aktee> hmm ... /etc/X11/xorg.conf that's supposed to show me something when I open it with Mousepad, right?
[08:09] <grumpymole> sure
[08:10] <aktee> oop, got it. I went too fast and typed Xorg.config hahahah my bad :)
[08:10] <grumpymole> aktee: you can blame your keyboard  ;)
[08:10] <aktee> hmm.. doesn't work
[08:10] <aktee> it's already 104.. and layout is already CA
[08:11] <aktee> aw..
[08:12] <aktee> o well, thanks for the help :D
[08:12] <grumpymole> aktee: what is the CAR in ALT_CAR + 2
[08:12] <aktee> the Commercial A
[08:12] <aktee> hmm
[08:13] <aktee> you know, before gmail.com
[08:13] <grumpymole> ok
[08:13] <aktee> like, aktee"a"gmail.com
[08:13] <aktee> seems like my AltCar just doesnt work
[08:13] <grumpymole> with you now
[08:13] <aktee> can't do the wavy thing too. (dunno it's named)
[08:13] <grumpymole> tilde
[08:14] <aktee> exactly
[08:14] <aktee> =)
[08:14] <grumpymole> so you are pressing shift + 2 to get @?
[08:14] <grumpymole> or ALT key?
[08:14] <aktee> no, I can't do it at all lol
[08:15] <aktee> it's supposed to be ctrl+alt+2
[08:15] <aktee> or Alt-CAR + 2
[08:15] <aktee> but now it's neither of them
[08:15] <aktee> maybe it's because of Xgl
[08:15] <aktee> trouble came after xgl and beryl
[08:15] <aktee> those are two messy programs :)
[08:15] <grumpymole> i thought it might be related to the fact that xubuntu automatically installs with the right-hand alt key disabled
[08:16] <aktee> ?
[08:16] <aktee> wow
[08:16] <aktee> where?
[08:16] <aktee> :| maybe it's that
[08:16] <grumpymole> try the other alt key
[08:17] <aktee> hmm it's assigned to a hotkey for XGL
[08:17] <aktee> now that I think about it.. with the other ALT, it doesnt execute the hotkey
[08:17] <aktee> ... hmm..
[08:17] <grumpymole> it can be fixed.  just getting a link
[08:18] <grumpymole> http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/11/i-guess-i-should-have-little-more-faith.html
[08:18] <grumpymole> i thought the key on my old laptop was dying.  turned out it was this.
[08:19] <aktee> oh you got a blog!
[08:19] <aktee> and a thinkpad! nice!
[08:19] <aktee> thinkpad, tough machine eh?
[08:19] <grumpymole> hence no beryl or other glitzy stuff
[08:19] <grumpymole> thinkpad is still rock solid
[08:20] <aktee> yeah. I had the same model - 600e. that thing has a long life
[08:20] <aktee> hey thanks for the links, damn, i gotta restart X but i can't right now, burning a dvd..
[08:20] <aktee> so i'll chat a little hahaha
[08:21] <grumpymole> no probs.  time to get some dinner.
[08:21] <grumpymole> ciao
[08:21] <aktee> ciao !
[09:43] <KorN[CM] > is someone able to help me with samba, it's driving me crazy!
[09:44] <kalikiana> what is the problem?
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > um I cant get it to work ):
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > im a linux noob (using webmin)
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > I understand the basics
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > however, Im not sure on this:
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > my login account for ubuntu is :
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > schilds
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > do I need a different account for samba
[09:46] <KorN[CM] > or can use that one?
[09:47] <kalikiana> You mean the login you'd use to access your files form another machine? That has to be set seperately.
[09:48] <KorN[CM] > ok is that a samba user?
[09:51] <rexbinary> KorN[CM] : Have you been to Applications->System->Shared Folders ?
[09:51] <kalikiana> yes. it doesn't seem to be in /etc/smb.conf...
[09:51] <rexbinary> you can set it up pretty easy there
[09:51] <KorN[CM] > ok first off Im running server install of ubuntu
[09:52] <KorN[CM] > so therei s no application-system, etc etc.
[09:52] <KorN[CM] > im using webmin
[09:52] <KorN[CM] > however
[09:52] <rexbinary> ah ok, thought it was xubuntu desktop
[09:52] <KorN[CM] > ok
[09:52] <KorN[CM] > so, I need a seperate user setup as a samba user, right?
[09:53] <rexbinary> you don't have too, you just need a samba password for you username, do a smbpasswd -a username and then it will prompt for a password
[09:53] <rexbinary> s/you/your
[09:54] <kalikiana> that's the one i failed to remember :P
[09:55] <KorN[CM] > ooh let's seen now :)
[09:55] <KorN[CM] > ahah we're getting somewhere :)
[10:41] <Iphigenia> Hmmm.....
[10:43] <Iphigenia> bugger
[11:02] <grazie> What groups and privs are required to pick up atp-get updates?
[11:02] <TheSheep> grazie: you need to be root
[11:03] <grazie> yes of course. that not my problem
[11:04] <grazie> one user can get updates, another cannot. Both have admin privs
[11:04] <TheSheep> grazie: what's the message?
[11:04] <grazie> no message, just doesn't see any new updates
[11:05] <TheSheep> you mean that apt-get update has no effect?
[11:05] <grazie> yes
[11:05] <TheSheep> sudo apt-get update?
[11:05] <grazie> yes
[11:06] <TheSheep> well, apparently there were no updates ready
[11:06] <TheSheep> because the moment you use sudo, the both commands are run from the same user -- root
[11:07] <grazie> yes there are updates. one user see them, the other does not!
[11:08] <TheSheep> grazie: when one user gets the updates, the other one cannot get them second time -- they are there already
[11:09] <grazie> TheSheep, no I have downloaded the updates yet. They are still there waiiting to be downloaded.
[11:09] <grazie> s/have/haven't/
[11:11] <TheSheep> 'apt-get update' updates the package database
[11:12] <grazie> user1 requests updates - nothing. user2 requests updates - 26 updates. Boith have admin privs!
[11:13] <TheSheep> grazie: explain "requests updates"
[11:13] <grazie> sudo apt-get updates
[11:14] <TheSheep> the index could have been updated in the mean time
[11:15] <TheSheep> grazie: when yuo use sudo, it's not "user one requests updates, user2 requests updates". It's "root requests updates, root requests updates".
[11:17] <grazie> I understand that. Which is why I don't understand why the updates are not seen by both users.
[11:17] <grazie> user2 has been trying to get updates for a while - nothing
[11:18] <grazie> user1 logs in - updates are there!
[11:18] <TheSheep> I'm as helpless as you are :)
[11:18] <TheSheep> or more
[11:19] <grazie> good - it's not just me then!
[11:19] <grazie> thanks for thinking about it
[11:24] <grazie> TheSheep, I think there must be a bug in the Update Manager. Just logged in as user2 and updates are now available!
[11:25] <grazie> TheSheep, I was actually using the Update Manager and not sudo apt-get updates
[11:25] <kalikiana> How do I reference a variable in a Makefile, assuming I used name=`value`?
[11:27] <TheSheep> $(name)
[11:28] <TheSheep> grazie: that's what I suspected, update manager probably works differently
[11:29] <TheSheep> grazie: are you sure it was running at all in both cases?
[11:30] <grazie> TheSheep, Definitely yes
[11:30] <kalikiana> TheSheep: that won't work inside a block it seems
[11:30] <TheSheep> kalikiana: what block?
[11:31] <kalikiana> block begins with: locale: i18n/*.po
[11:31] <TheSheep> kalikiana: btw, there is no `foo` in makefile
[11:31] <kalikiana> first line is: lang=`basename $< *.po`
[11:31] <TheSheep> use $(shell ...)
[11:32] <kalikiana> ?
[11:32] <TheSheep> ??
[11:33] <kalikiana> what do you mean with $shell?
[11:33] <TheSheep> I mean you should use it
[11:33] <grazie> $(sh ...)
[11:33] <TheSheep> it's $(shell command) not $shell
[11:34] <TheSheep> kalikiana: eg. VER = $(shell date +"%d.%m.%y-%H.%M")
[11:35] <TheSheep> and it's "basename $< .po", not *.po
[11:36] <kalikiana> ok, variable seems to be okay. but "mkdir -p locale/$(lang)/LC_MESSAGES" still won't do
[11:36] <kalikiana> i know about basename, just a typo :P
[11:37] <kalikiana> (although it works even with *)
[11:38] <TheSheep> kalikiana: I'd use $(strip ...) instead of `basename`, much faster
[11:39] <TheSheep> kalikiana: there is also $(basename ...)
[11:39] <kalikiana> oh, didn't know that
[11:39] <TheSheep> info make
[11:42] <TheSheep> kalikiana: say, why don't you use dbus for invoking trackerd and thunar in catfish?
[11:42] <TheSheep> kalikiana: and can I steal the thumbnail code?
[11:43] <kalikiana> I wanted to have the choice between different backends, dbus is on ToDo for when I fixed some more important things
[11:43] <kalikiana> steal the code, sure :)
[11:44] <kalikiana> since I looked at your icon code anyway :P
[11:44] <kalikiana> damn, how do i get that variable in my Makefile?
[11:45] <TheSheep> kalikiana: ?
[11:46] <kalikiana> mkdir -p locale/$lang/LC_MESSAGES
[11:46] <kalikiana> it won't insert the variable lang there
[11:48] <TheSheep> kalikiana: it's $(lang), and do you have that variable defined in the makefile?
[11:49] <kalikiana> lang comes from lang=$(shell ...)
[11:49] <kalikiana> but $(lang) doesn't work either
[11:49] <TheSheep> kalikiana: works for me
[11:50] <TheSheep> kalikiana: does 'echo $(lang)' work?
[11:51] <kalikiana> no, echo prints a blank line
[11:51] <TheSheep> kalikiana: maybe you don't set the variable correctly?
[11:52] <kalikiana> you know how i set it, what may be incorrect about that?
[11:52] <TheSheep> kalikiana: what's exactly the '...' in $(shell ...) ?
[11:52] <kalikiana> lang=$(shell basename $<)
[11:53] <TheSheep> what are you trying to do?
[11:53] <TheSheep> this is nonsense
[11:54] <kalikiana> pseudocode: for any file i18n/*.po do mkdir -p locale/$file-without-ext/LC_MESSAGES
[11:55] <kalikiana> in other words: generating mo files
[11:57] <TheSheep> %.po:
install -d locale/$*/LC_MESSAGES
[12:00] <TheSheep> no, wait
[12:00] <TheSheep> ou want the .mo files?
[12:01] <TheSheep> gotta go
[12:01] <kalikiana> thx anyway :P
[12:01] <kalikiana> ciao
[12:17] <jenda> Hello
[12:17] <jenda> folks around? :)
[12:17] <jenda> I need feedback from the relevant part of the community... ;)
[12:17] <jenda> http://diy.devubuntu.com/xubuntu.png
[12:22] <jenda> and what about the color of the mouse?
[12:22] <jenda> Someone's suggesting I make it lighter.
[01:04] <grazie> jenda, looks good to me. Where will it be used?
[01:05] <jenda> grazie: at expos, available to anyone who wants them, too.
[01:05] <jenda> $0.3 apiece ;)
[01:06] <grazie> so the scale is as it would be used?
[01:07] <jenda> nope :)
[01:07] <jenda> case badges: 2*3 cm
[01:07] <jenda> sorry about the scale - it's what the printer wants.
[01:07] <jenda> (and I don't do proprietary vectors)
[01:08] <grazie> the whiskers may be lost at that scale
[01:09] <jenda> probable.
[01:09] <jenda> Nothnig I can do about that, though :)
[01:09] <grazie> nice though
[04:27] <TuxCrafter> hi guys: what those this tool do ? perl /usr/share/system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts/SystemToolsBackends.pl
[04:28] <TuxCrafter> cat /usr/share/system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts/SystemToolsBackends.pl
[04:28] <TuxCrafter> it is eating 10 MB of my memory
[04:37] <TuxCrafter> system-tools-backends is that a critical tool for xubuntu?
[05:27] <SiLOX> I cant start X after Ive installed latest Nvidia driver :/ i get "no screen found" and "no devices detected"
[05:33] <biberao> hey
[05:33] <biberao> any solution for firefox crash?
[05:37] <Maximilian1st> Hi all.
[05:38] <Maximilian1st> What can I do if a kernel option is not by default compiled in the standard xubuntu kernel? Can I recompile it somehow?
[06:21] <TuxCrafter> hello
[06:21] <TuxCrafter> can some one help testing something
[06:22] <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu
[06:23] <TuxCrafter> then when I restart
[06:23] <TuxCrafter> and start openoffice the gtk bindings are broken!
[06:23] <TuxCrafter> someone here? :-P
[06:24] <TuxCrafter> TheSheeo: ? :-P
[06:24] <TuxCrafter> TheSheep: ?
[06:35] <TuxCrafter> ?
[06:36] <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu and then when I restart the pc. and start then my openoffice gtk bindings are broken!
[06:37] <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu and then when I restart the pc. and start then my openoffice gtk bindings are broken! If i then start xfdesktop and kill it again openoffice is fine. byt I have tho had loaded xfdesktop once :-S
[06:58] <esc_on_lucidrine> hi
[07:09] <Commander-Crowe> hey all
[07:09] <surgy> hello
[07:10] <surgy> ubotwo nvidia
[07:10] <ubotwo> surgy: Error: "nvidia" is not a valid command.
[07:10] <LjL> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:11] <surgy> thank you
[07:14] <surgy> how do i tell what linux image i have? im running xubuntu 32bit
[07:14] <surgy> whould that fall under 2.6 K7 ?
[07:14] <esc_on_lucidrine> dunno maybe cat /proc/version ?
[07:15] <surgy> ok i got it
[07:16] <surgy> whould a Nvidia Ti4200 be in the nvidia legacy category?
[07:17] <esc_on_lucidrine> no idea
[07:19] <surgy> "Cannont mark nvidia-glx could not resolve dependecys"
[07:19] <surgy> im missing a repo arnt i?
[07:20] <surgy> what repo is nvidia-glx in?
[07:20] <LjL> surgy: restricted i suppose
[07:22] <surgy> seams like i have my restricted repos on and it still tells me the same message
[07:27] <surgy> i turned on my restricted modules as it says in the tutorial, and when i searched for nvidia, in synaptic package manager, it brings up "nvidia-glx" when i check it for installation, it says it has a dependency that cannot be resolved.
[07:28] <esc_on_lucidrine> whats the dependancy? can you resolv it manually?
[07:29] <surgy> if i can resolve it manually i have no idea where to start,  dependencys: nvidia-glx:
[07:29] <surgy>  Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629
[07:29] <surgy>   Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>=1.12.1) but 1.11.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:29] <surgy>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[07:29] <surgy>   Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>=2.12.0) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:29] <surgy>   Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>=2.10.3) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:29] <surgy>   Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>=1.14.5) but 1.12.3-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[07:29] <esc_on_lucidrine> dependancy issues are nasty
[07:30] <esc_on_lucidrine> so you have older versions of those libraries listed
[07:30] <surgy> umm?
[07:30] <surgy> was that a question?
[07:30] <esc_on_lucidrine> guess it was an observation
[07:30] <surgy> ok
[07:31] <surgy> becuase i dont know what i have to be honest
[07:31] <esc_on_lucidrine> like libgtk2.0.0 version 2.12.0 is expected but 2.10.3 is to be installed
[07:32] <surgy> yeah, but how do i give it what it expects?
[07:32] <esc_on_lucidrine> not sure
[07:32] <esc_on_lucidrine> you will have to give it a repo that contains the packegs it wants perhaps
[07:32] <esc_on_lucidrine> maybe get synaptic to o an update
[07:33] <surgy> well i added the nvidia repo to /etc/apt/sources.list and i enabled the restricted repos in synaptic
[07:33] <esc_on_lucidrine> and what version of Xubuntu are you running? breezy, dapper, edgy?
[07:34] <surgy> i whould guess edgy
[07:34] <surgy> i downloaded it august 06
[07:35] <esc_on_lucidrine> ok, now make sure you are getting stuff from the edgy repos, by inspecting sources.list
[07:35] <Commander-Crowe> no
[07:35] <Commander-Crowe> dapper
[07:35] <Commander-Crowe> he would have dapper
[07:36] <esc_on_lucidrine> my guess would be to be able to use that package you may have to upgrade to edgy possibly, but check what the how-to lists as requirement
[07:36] <surgy> is there any place where i can copy/paste a new sources.list  that will contain all the repos i will need for awhile?
[07:37] <esc_on_lucidrine> thats a bad idea
[07:37] <surgy> esc: whats the benifit of upgrading to edgy?
[07:37] <esc_on_lucidrine> you'll get your system out of sync
[07:37] <Commander-Crowe> hehe
[07:37] <Commander-Crowe> edgy isn't so buggie
[07:37] <surgy> yeah ill look at a changelog :)
[07:37] <esc_on_lucidrine> well, i guess the benefit may be to be able to use that package you want
[07:38] <esc_on_lucidrine> you'll have more recent versions of software
[07:38] <surgy> also a few questions: does edgy auto mount ntfs partitions by defualt? and will it do the same for external media such as my ipod?
[07:38] <esc_on_lucidrine> dunno, i usually mount stuff manually
[07:39] <Commander-Crowe> surgy, yes it will
[07:39] <surgy> becuase i backed up all my emus and my movies to my secondary windows hdd and now i will need to access those
[07:39] <surgy> kewl
[07:39] <Commander-Crowe> you would need to find a special driver to write to it though
[07:40] <surgy> ok time to find edgy
[07:40] <esc_on_lucidrine> but then again this machine here is still on breezy :-)
[07:40] <Commander-Crowe> you can read and exicute it though
[07:40] <surgy> commander-crowe: i plane on copy/paste the whole hdd to this one and then converting it to linux partition
[07:41] <Commander-Crowe> then you cool
[07:41] <Commander-Crowe> your
[07:41] <Commander-Crowe> you may need to install some packages from synaptic but thats really easy
[07:41] <surgy> so edgy is the latest huh?
[07:41] <esc_on_lucidrine> just make sure your copy has been successful, before you go deleting stuff
[07:42] <Commander-Crowe> latest stable
[07:42] <Commander-Crowe> right now I'm in 7.04
[07:42] <surgy> i think im going kde this time though
[07:42] <surgy> looks like fiesty heard is the latest there
[07:43] <surgy> feisty fawn*
[07:43] <esc_on_lucidrine> kde -> yuck
[07:43] <esc_on_lucidrine> INMHO
[07:43] <surgy> lol
[07:43] <esc_on_lucidrine> but thats just personal preference :-)
[07:44] <surgy> its all deb though right?
[07:44] <surgy> so commands will be the same
[07:44] <esc_on_lucidrine> and i don't need a shiny gui, but a low-footprint
[07:44] <esc_on_lucidrine> well
[07:44] <surgy> i like the shiny gui :)
[07:45] <esc_on_lucidrine> hmmm, yes i used to myself, until i decided that since i'm doing everything from the command line anyway, all i really need is an xTerm, and a desktop pager
[07:45] <esc_on_lucidrine> first KDE, then Gnome, then XFCE, now fluxbox
[07:46] <surgy> i plan on getting everything set up through the term and then forgetting about xterm until something breaks :)
[07:46] <esc_on_lucidrine> as i said personal preference
[07:47] <esc_on_lucidrine> just the thing is, i work on several different machines at home and at work, and so i like having a similar way of doing stuff wherever i go
[07:47] <surgy> yea that whould be nice
[07:47] <esc_on_lucidrine> and the commands don't really vary across distros
[07:47] <esc_on_lucidrine> well, apart from package management
[07:48] <esc_on_lucidrine> stuff like gnu-utils is the same wherever you go,
[07:48] <surgy> first time i have ever gotten over 300 kbps (im on a bottom end dsl conenction) but right now im getting 398 kbps
[07:48] <esc_on_lucidrine> what are you donwloading?
[07:48] <esc_on_lucidrine> edgy?
[07:48] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:48] <surgy> yeah edgy kde
[07:48] <esc_on_lucidrine> you can just upgrade...
[07:48] <surgy> gut morgan
[07:48] <surgy> nah
[07:48] <surgy> fresh install
[07:48] <esc_on_lucidrine> !upgrade
[07:48] <ubotwo> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:49] <kalikiana> Is there a panel plugin or something which checks for package updates available?
[07:49] <esc_on_lucidrine> if you have nothing to lose reinstall is a good option, in my experiance i've often foobared stuff with a dist-upgrade
[07:51] <esc_on_lucidrine> though if you've spent hours configuring your system dist-upgrade may be the way
[07:51] <esc_on_lucidrine> but thats just based on personal experiance
[07:52] <esc_on_lucidrine> at the moment my home network is a mess anyway, cause i'm too busy spending time at work
[07:52] <esc_on_lucidrine> surgy, let me know if edgy fixes your problems
[07:53] <surgy> yeah ill be right here untill it downloads
[07:53] <surgy> but its prolly inapropriate to stay here after the install because its kde and not xfce
[07:54] <surgy> esc: i have nothing to loose except what ive messed up :)
[07:54] <esc_on_lucidrine> well, i guess its doubtful to get KDE related advice in this chan :-)
[07:57] <surgy> off topic here but any of you guys wolfenstein fans?
[07:58] <surgy> just wandering how my vid card will hold up to opengl on enemy teritory, it is a ti4200 world known for horrible ogl2.0
[07:59] <esc_on_lucidrine> no idea, never game :-( just own shoddy g-cards
[07:59] <surgy> lol
[08:00] <surgy> well pcsx runs good on gforce 2 :) just a hint
[08:00] <surgy> renders the entire psx in software fast and looks decent
[08:01] <esc_on_lucidrine> i don't really have the time to game, fortunately :-)
[08:01] <surgy> lol
[08:03] <surgy> yeah i could prolly do with less games, loos a few pounds and kick a few habbits, but it seams like y entire state is gripped in this blizzard, roads are 5 inches deep in ice almost everywhere, public schools have been closed for over a week
[08:03] <surgy> my*
[08:03] <esc_on_lucidrine> heavy
[08:03] <esc_on_lucidrine> whereabouts are you from?
[08:03] <surgy> oklahoma
[08:03] <surgy> you?
[08:03] <esc_on_lucidrine> germany
[08:04] <surgy> nice
[08:04] <esc_on_lucidrine> we had the warmest winter since they started recording weather
[08:04] <surgy> dont guess your catching any of the aftermath of el nino there are you :)
[08:04] <esc_on_lucidrine> yeah schools were shut early yesterday
[08:04] <surgy> becuase its warm?
[08:04] <esc_on_lucidrine> heavy storm, tore down trees
[08:04] <esc_on_lucidrine> and other stuff
[08:05] <surgy> oh
[08:05] <surgy> that sucks
[08:05] <esc_on_lucidrine> i was gonna take my kite out, but i bust it during the last one :-)
[08:05] <surgy> i like kites too, havnt had a chance to fly one since i was a kid
[08:06] <esc_on_lucidrine> found the word, we had a hurricane
[08:06] <surgy> oh lol
[08:06] <surgy> we dont get those here
[08:06] <esc_on_lucidrine> but blizzards instead
[08:06] <esc_on_lucidrine> :-)
[08:06] <surgy> only three natural disasters here are blizzards, droughts and tornadoes
[08:07] <esc_on_lucidrine> yeah i own a revolution - shockwave... and i crashed it a bit to heavy last weekend, so the leading edge just snapped
[08:07] <surgy> im sure our snow storms are nothing compared to germanys
[08:07] <surgy> sucks
[08:07] <esc_on_lucidrine> prolly not, we don't usually have many natural disasters here
[08:08] <surgy> i figures since your so much further north it whould be like 20-30 degrees cooler year round
[08:08] <esc_on_lucidrine> maybe a few floods in the rivers and the occasional hurricane, but flooded rivers are probably the worst
[08:09] <surgy> this is the worst winter sense 92 in oklahoma
[08:09] <esc_on_lucidrine> actually temperatures have become surprisingly mild over the last few years
[08:09] <surgy> and its 27 degrees F outside
[08:09] <esc_on_lucidrine> what that in celsius?
[08:09] <esc_on_lucidrine> i don't know farenheit
[08:09] <surgy> umm let me look it up :)
[08:10] <surgy> 27 f is  -2.77777777777777777777777777777777777777  C
[08:10] <esc_on_lucidrine> google es
[08:10] <esc_on_lucidrine> thats not cold at all
[08:11] <surgy> lol thats what i thought :)
[08:11] <surgy> your winters are alot worse
[08:11] <esc_on_lucidrine> well, nothing is ever covered in snow for too long
[08:11] <esc_on_lucidrine> and the schools very rarely shut, maybe once every 3 years for a cpl of days
[08:12] <esc_on_lucidrine> amazing, a blizzard in oklahoma
[08:12] <surgy> lol
[08:12] <surgy> yeah like i said first one sense 92
[08:12] <esc_on_lucidrine> btw. you do realise you can sell your snow on ebay
[08:12] <surgy> so you can imagine that our cities werent ready for it, we had to contract snow plows and dip into our emergency funds
[08:13] <surgy> really?
[08:13] <esc_on_lucidrine> i saw a TV show bout it the other day
[08:13] <esc_on_lucidrine> its for real
[08:13] <esc_on_lucidrine> sell it to places that haven't got any
[08:14] <surgy> lol
[08:14] <surgy> so by warmest winter on record how warm is that?
[08:14] <surgy> like 33 C ?
[08:15] <esc_on_lucidrine> bout 10 deg C
[08:15] <esc_on_lucidrine> on average
[08:16] <esc_on_lucidrine> average temp usually is 1.5 deg C
[08:17] <esc_on_lucidrine> close to freezing
[08:17] <surgy> 10 C is 50 F and our winters are usually around that
[08:18] <surgy> our summers are usually 100 F thats 37.77 C
[08:18] <esc_on_lucidrine> so pretty mild and temperate here
[08:18] <esc_on_lucidrine> thats HOT
[08:18] <surgy> nah
[08:18] <esc_on_lucidrine> well for me it would be anyway
[08:18] <surgy> every other summer it gets around 104 F 40 C
[08:19] <surgy> good swimming, lake weather
[08:19] <esc_on_lucidrine> yeah, bigtime
[08:19] <surgy> whats the hottest temp there? do you know? and what part of germany (thats a big place)
[08:19] <esc_on_lucidrine> mars attacks, i'm off to watch telly, nice to meet you surgy
[08:20] <surgy> you too
[08:20] <surgy> seeya
[08:37] <Ma> HI
[08:39] <Ma> My sound volume is too low, it's barely heareable. Does anyone know what I should do?
[08:40] <Ma> please?
[08:40] <waky> alsamixer on console?
[08:41] <Ma> ?
[08:42] <kalikiana> Ma: there is a panel plugin for volume
[08:42] <Ma> where?
[08:42] <kalikiana> right-click the panel and select 'add item'
[08:43] <kalikiana> it's called volume or similar
[08:50] <Ma> ok, thanks, that helped
[08:52] <AmaranthineNight> Hello.
[08:54] <somerville32> Hi :)
[08:56] <AmaranthineNight> How are you?
[08:58] <fxr> hi, does default xubuntu install have a built in ftp client or do i have to install one seperately?
[09:00] <somerville32> AmaranthineNight, I'm great, thanks :)
[09:00] <somerville32> fxr: You might have to install a graphical one
[09:01] <somerville32> There is a text-based one installed already
[09:01] <kalikiana> fxr: if so, then look in the menu 'network' ;)
[09:01] <kalikiana> if not, gFTP might be good
[09:02] <fxr> ahh right, yeah, i prefer a gui, thanks for the nudge ppl
[09:04] <mesarpe> hi, i installed xubuntu for powerpc and I got a problem.. the user created during instalation doesnt exist... so I created manually.. My problem is I dont know how to use configuration I always get: you dont have permissions (even when I put root password)
[09:29] <slow-motion> n8
[10:33] <enaut> but now again will i be able to have a trial boot system (Linux32|Linux64|Windows) with the Homepartition shared?
[10:33] <enaut> is here anyone who tried already a configuration like that?
[11:12] <g333k_work> hi, how to upgrade from xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 safetely?
[11:19] <somerville32> g333k_work, see: http://xubuntu.org/get :)
[11:24] <`r0x`> hi
[11:24] <somerville32> Hiya! :)
[11:28] <enaut> hi
[11:34] <snook353> !java
[11:34] <ubotwo> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:34] <snook353> !multiverse repository
[11:34] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[11:34] <snook353> !Multiverse repository
[11:36] <psykidellic> hello...i am installing xubuntu and it just gets stuck at 85% everytime....
[11:37] <psykidellic> what might be the issue? I am using alternate install cd and installing in text mode...
[12:08] <snook353> the terminal says "The following packages have been kept back:
[12:08] <snook353>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386"
[12:08] <snook353> should i upgrade with xubuntu?
[12:16] <hyper_ch> psykidellic: are you still here?
[12:18] <snook353> n/m
[12:25] <swhalen> Hello
[12:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yo
[12:26] <swhalen> i just installed xubuntu on a Friend's old laptop
[12:26] <swhalen> only problem is that it was sans-Ethernet
[12:27] <swhalen> so i thew in a linksys WPC54GS
[12:27] <swhalen> does anyone know how to install/cofig it
[12:27] <swhalen> ?