[12:55] <Dante123> what are minimum requirements in terms of CPU, RAM, and HD space to run edubuntu well.....
[12:55] <LaserJock> Dante123: for an LTSP setup?
[01:26] <Dante123> what does ltsp stand for.....exactly......
[01:29] <LaserJock> Linux Terminal Server Project
[01:30] <Dante123> yes, i want to do that kind of install.....
[01:31] <LaserJock> how many clients will be connected to the server?
[01:54] <Dante123> likely 5 or so computers
[01:55] <LaserJock> well, probably at least 500MHz CPU, 1GB RAM, HD would be whatever you think people would use
[02:01] <Dante123> what kind of cpu.....pentium 3 okay....??
[02:01] <LaserJock> perhaps
[02:01] <LaserJock> I mean, it kinda depends on what you'll be running
[02:01] <LaserJock> and how well you want it to run
[02:02] <LaserJock> oh wait, maybe it's 1 GHz that you need
[02:02] <LaserJock> let me go see if I can find the official minimum requirements
[02:06] <LaserJock> Dante123: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-hw.html
[02:07] <LaserJock> Dante123: I think maybe I told you a lie about 500MHz
[02:07] <Dante123> so what is the truth??
[02:07] <LaserJock> well, it says 2GHz is good for 20 people
[02:08] <LaserJock> I think probably 1GHz might be ok for 5 but it would really depend on what they are running
[02:08] <LaserJock> thinks that are graphics intensive could be problems
[02:08] <LaserJock> *things
[02:10] <LaserJock> sorry about that, I've never actually run an LTSP server.
[02:15] <Dante123> hi....what are the minimum requirements for edubuntu or xubuntu as a desktop install???
[02:15] <Dante123> I have a pentium II....192 megs ram........3g partition......can it run either one decently....for browsing web etc.???
[02:21] <LaserJock> yeah, they will probably run
[02:21] <LaserJock> how fast is the pentium II?
[02:22] <Dante123> 350 mhz
[02:22] <LaserJock> I think I would recommend Xubuntu for that one
[02:22] <Dante123> it will run puppy linux fine.....but my kids like ubuntu....so I am hoping xubuntu will run okay on it
[02:22] <LaserJock> the hard drive is pretty small, but it should work
[02:23] <Dante123> I see minimum requirements.......and they mention mainly ram....but not much on CPU and speed....
[02:24] <LaserJock> yeah, CPU is much harder to put a limit on
[02:24] <LaserJock> I would use the Alternate CD for installation
[02:25] <LaserJock> that requires less RAM and is faster for the slower machines
[02:25] <Dante123> okay....will give that a try.......will xubuntu support games like netpanzer......that work on ubuntu right off the bat???
[02:26] <LaserJock> well, it's possible to run everything that Ubuntu runs
[02:27] <LaserJock> but you might run into hard drive limits and CPU limits for games
[02:29] <Dante123> if i have 192 ram.....i should be okay for netpanzer.....you still think I should download the alternate install.....is that mainly to save on install time???
[02:35] <LaserJock> well, it could
[02:35] <LaserJock> for the Desktop installer you have to boot up to a running system and then install
[02:35] <LaserJock> with the Alternate installer you can start installing right away
[02:36] <LaserJock> and some people with 192 RAM have experience problems with the Desktop installer
[02:55] <tekteen> Can someone help me with software modems on a toshiba laptop?
[11:00] <hmd64> hi
[11:01] <hmd64> any edubuntu based on XFCE for older computer?
[12:04] <peterlyberth> Hi ive made a test install of Edubuntu and a thin client, in vmware. Edubuntu boots fine, but the thin client stops at the edubuntu splash screen
[12:04] <peterlyberth> Got any idea why?
[12:06] <peterlyberth> I think i read somewhere that one person had some luck when he disabled the splash screen. But how is it i do that?
[12:14] <peterlyberth> Anyone?
[12:20] <peterlyberth> Do you need any info to help?(The conf file)
[12:31] <peterlyberth> hmm guess not
[12:57] <hmd64> hi
[01:00] <jsgotangco> yo!
[01:04] <hmd64>  I'm plane to make a mixture of edubuntu and xubuntu someting like tuxlab distro
[01:04] <hmd64> edubuntu is great but don't work nicely on older hardware
[01:05] <jsgotangco> really? is it because of the gnome desktop
[01:05] <hmd64> gonme is too heavy on network LTSP server
[01:05] <jsgotangco> right
[01:06] <hmd64> and also we need some simplification of the GUI for children
[01:08] <hmd64> IMHO edubuntu team has just made ubuntu+kdeedu+LTSP that's all
[01:09] <hmd64> that's not enough
[01:11] <jsgotangco> hmd64: we're completely aware of that
[01:11] <jsgotangco> we just don't have enough developers to make some radical changes, as well sa proper planning
[01:12] <hmd64> I know
[01:14] <jsgotangco> amd64 testing for instance, we only get something like 2 test volunteers
[01:15] <hmd64> I prefer to make changes inside edubuntu distro
[01:16] <hmd64> so it can reach a lot of people and to be shiped freely
[01:17] <hmd64> tuxlab has made a nice job but their distro is localised only for southafrica
[02:11] <hmd64> I'll join the edubuntu dev team to help
[05:47] <tuhl> anybody from Germany here?
[07:13] <humboldt>  is evms ready for production systems in 2.6 kernel?
[07:18] <hmd64> anyone?