| === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has left #kubuntu-devel ["adieu..."] | ||
| gnomefreak | hmmmmm that seems way broken | 12:17 |
|---|---|---|
| gnomefreak | kyamo seems to be having all kinds of problems | 12:17 |
| gnomefreak | version 0.13.99+0.2a-0ubuntu4 cancel is spelled wrong its spelled chancel and it hangs only way to kill it is kill -9 pid | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | maybe killall too didnt try | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | and used over 90% cpu | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | do i file 2 reports or do you want them all on one? | 12:19 |
| Tonio__ | Sime, sebas: I commited a little patch for kde-systemsettings and gtk-qt-engines addition under appearance, if you want to sync that to svn, you'll find the patch in the debian source package... | 12:23 |
| gnomefreak | filed 2 to be safe ;) | 12:29 |
| === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-216.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: have you had trouble with your upload of knm at all? | 12:43 |
| === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee_ | ah ha.... | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | that's....very odd. | 12:48 |
| === rdorsch [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.2] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | Tonio_: for compiling plugins, kane said. guess he was working on one | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah okay ;) | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: final attept to fix kdebluetooth | 01:13 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what needs doing to it? | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I added the new knm patch, and sent comment to mbiebl with a few suggestions of how implementing his changes better | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that should allow to manage enable/disable better | 01:13 |
| === Hobbsee cant seem to connect to a wireless network now, unless she types in all the details manually | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dunhandler.desktop file is still crappy with the ubuntu changes during the build | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: adding new blank line via a patch fails, so I'm changing the file via a makebuilddir rule | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should work this time | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | next I'm fixing kds for katapult autostart | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if that work would you agree providing a backport or fix for knm ? | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | edgy is higly affected by this systray issue | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | and perform a ps aux | grep network && kill UID is way to hard for my girlfriend :) | 01:16 |
| Riddell | which systray issue? | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: when the session management restores knm, sometimes it simply fails, icon doesn't respond and disappears | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | but the process is still there and the problem will rehappen at next login | 01:17 |
| Riddell | charming | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: confirmed on several distros, so mbiebl patched to remove the session management thing and change the autostart behavior | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can confirm that bug, although I could restart it, that not very easy for average joe | 01:18 |
| Riddell | oh, cool, we'd I'd support SRU, and I think mithrandir should even be responsive to processing them | 01:18 |
| Riddell | xdg-utils got into -proposed after 6 weeks yesterday | 01:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll upload digikam fixed to -proposed today too | 01:18 |
| Tonio_ | cjwatson agreed on rationale | 01:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: remind me again which that was? | 01:18 |
| Tonio_ | showfoto cannot be installed, due to file conflict in the package splitting | 01:19 |
| Tonio_ | my packaging issue | 01:19 |
| Riddell | ah | 01:19 |
| Tonio_ | sru bug is there for 2 month, but nobody took care untill I finally ping cjwatson yesterday | 01:19 |
| Tonio_ | lots of people are complaining about this | 01:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did you change cdbs somehow ? | 01:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I cannot compile kdebluetooth anymore : | 01:20 |
| Tonio_ | dh_install: kdebluetooth missing files (debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdebluetooth/*), aborting | 01:20 |
| Tonio_ | there is no docs in the tarball, so I don't understand | 01:20 |
| Tonio_ | and it previously built successfully | 01:20 |
| === rdorsch [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.115] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | hum, that kdebluetooth.install..... okay | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | when was that changed ???? last upload is mine, I don't understand | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | well I'll fix and upload, that's it | 01:22 |
| Riddell | you can copy kde.mk locally to the package and edit it and just include the local one | 01:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah but that's a .install file issue in fact... I'm just building a fixed version | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | katapult is building too, and then I'll fix kds | 01:28 |
| === orkid [n=orkid@bas1-barrie18-1242375025.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdong_ is now known as jdong|laptop | ||
| === bddebian [n=bddebian@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: about that kmenu/configuration/hplip thing, should we hide that in kde ? | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | or simply split to have that removed by default | 01:41 |
| Riddell | the kmenu is totally broken in feisty | 01:41 |
| Riddell | as is kcontrol | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? | 01:42 |
| Riddell | not sure why, we havn't changed anything | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just fixed gtk-qt-engines, so it look okay here, on a defualt profile | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | only that hplip thing needs to be removed or moved behind system probably | 01:42 |
| Riddell | there's a Lost and Found menu and two Settings menus | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | hu ????? | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not on a default profile afaik | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | let me test | 01:43 |
| Riddell | was true on the herd 2 CD | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | hum, I'm testing | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is okay here, no lost and found | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning the setting thing, that's due to that hplip thing, now gtk-qt-engines is fixed | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I would like to package this, but I think it is also installed in ubuntu right ? | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | s/package/patch | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | once done we'll have a clean kmenu, since everything is now clean | 01:46 |
| Riddell | gtk-qt-engine isn't installed in ubuntu | 01:47 |
| Riddell | how's your kcontrol? | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no I was talking about the hplip thing, should be installed in ubuntu, so I can't patch the desktop file, that's my problem :) | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | let me look at kcontrol | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | hum, the wine config thing should be hidden if not working.... I'll patch this | 01:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: leave it, consensus seems to be that it's working | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: bah, kcontrol look okay here | 01:49 |
| Riddell | although I think it should disable itself if wine isn't installed | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well I can't start it :) | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | ah ? needs wine to be installed ? | 01:49 |
| Riddell | oh, well poke sebas or Sime to fix it then | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | should be in a sepera package then, depending wine and guidance no ? | 01:49 |
| Riddell | it shouldn't need wine to be installed, just doesn't make much sense without it | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well I can't start it here... | 01:50 |
| === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEEB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | I don't think so, I'm happy for it to be there, if it works | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | Traceback (most recent call last): | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/wineconfig.py", line 1460, in <module> | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | class AppearancePage(QWidget): | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/wineconfig.py", line 1463, in AppearancePage | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | colorschemes = [str(i18n("Custom"))] | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 11: ordinal not in range(128) | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | that's the traceback | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | when running kcmshell System/wineconfig | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | maybe that an issue with french language, can you confirm it works for you ? | 01:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but appart from that, kcontrol look okay here... | 01:53 |
| Tonio_ | maybe that's just 3.5.6 I don't know | 01:53 |
| === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.133] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | hum, kdebluetooth fixed and this time it works, nice ;) uploaded | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | kds uploaded too with katapult removal, and I'm about to upload katapult | 01:54 |
| sebas | Tonio_: Can you email me a backtrace, I'll see what I can do then | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: sure | 01:55 |
| sebas | Thanks | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: I searched google for that issue, but it looks like a nightmare to fix :) | 01:55 |
| sebas | When I'm at it, I can add a check if wine is installed as well, I guess | 01:55 |
| sebas | It shouldn't be, the rest of guidance works fine with that kind of encoding crap as well | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: your email ? sebas@kde.org ? | 01:55 |
| sebas | y | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: email is sent | 01:57 |
| Mez | Tonio_, pong | 01:59 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: hey ;) forget about kxmame for xmess, only command line works | 02:00 |
| Tonio_ | in fact kxmame considers only systems that don't require a rom to work | 02:00 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: to launch properly a snes game, you need to get the snes bios from there : | 02:01 |
| Tonio_ | http://mess.slor.net/ | 02:01 |
| Tonio_ | then unzip the file in the bios folder of mess (defined in /etc/xmame/xmessrc) | 02:01 |
| Tonio_ | then to launch a game, use this command : | 02:01 |
| Tonio_ | xmess snes -cart "/full/path/to/the/rom.zip" | 02:02 |
| Tonio_ | that should work | 02:02 |
| Tonio_ | then press <tab> to configure joysticks etc... | 02:02 |
| Tonio_ | I really think about a good frontend for xmess, that would be usefull, since config is just a pure mess | 02:02 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: NEVER type man xmess :) | 02:03 |
| Tonio_ | more options than openvpn or openswan to what I've seen :) | 02:03 |
| Tonio_ | so I may start a frontend in python in the future, as I really want to learn python/pykde | 02:04 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: ping me when you've fixed your repos :) | 02:15 |
| === sebas gets some sleep | ||
| sebas | Got you email, thanks Tonio_ | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: your servant :) | 02:17 |
| sebas | =) | 02:18 |
| === vinboy_ [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I change the kubuntu_multimedia spec status to "implemented", as you fixed kaffeine, everything is now done, implemented, and known to work | 02:41 |
| Riddell | rocking | 02:42 |
| Riddell | top stuff Tonio_ | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: bah it was done for a while :) I should have closed the spec sooner, but well "zelda twilight princess" was out so....... | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | ^^ | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | that made away from kubuntu for a few weeks | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | now I'm back ! | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's my problem, I love video games as much as linux........ and days are only 24 hours | 02:45 |
| Mez | Tonio_, katapult no longer in the session / | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: no we will use an autostart thing | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | session in kds is causing problems sometimes when ~/ are merged with kds ones | 02:46 |
| Mez | thats gonna piss off some users | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | why ? | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | those who don't want katapult started ? they can uninstall it :) | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | or echo "Autostart: false" >> ~/..../katapultrc | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: note that the autostart via sessions thing did fail for me on several installations, I had to manually start it.... | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | that also pissed me off :) | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: not that much users complain about kdebluetooth or adept-notifier that also starts via /usr/share/autostart | 02:49 |
| Mez | Tonio_, cept katapult will now display apopup | 02:49 |
| Mez | whereas it didnt on session restor | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | display a popup ? which way and when ? | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | ah yes........ | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | well I can disable this in kds, but in a certain way that's nice | 02:51 |
| === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | lots of users discovering kubuntu are not aware of it, so let then know when kde launches is not that bad, no ? | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | well we can see feedback and change that before release, we have time, but I'm not sure lots of people will complain | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: on laptops with bluetooth you get a kdebluetooth popup at every boot, nobody complains.... | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | it is just a 1 sec thing | 02:52 |
| Mez | lol | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | and in my opinion that's nice for new users | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: what I'm not a fan is that we hide the icon in the systray | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | that's make it a PAIN for those you want to configure it | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | who knows about the alt+space and ctrl+C thing ? !! | 02:53 |
| Mez | Tonio_, blame Riddell | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | if I had to choose I would had that icon back.... | 02:54 |
| Mez | It's his fault | 02:54 |
| Mez | Tonio_, WASNT MY CHOICE | 02:54 |
| Mez | I want it on | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: yeah I know Riddell hates systray things,.... | 02:54 |
| Mez | sorry bout caps | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: I know | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: please !!!!!!! | 02:54 |
| === rideout [n=rideout@71-215-81-103.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Mez: good implementation would be autostart -> no popup -> icon in the systray | 02:55 |
| Mez | Tonio_, executive descision ? | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: new users would figure out katapult, and Riddell could hide the icon :) | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: propose that for the next meeting, we'll vote on that point :) | 02:55 |
| Mez | Tonio_, my point indeed | 02:55 |
| Mez | whens the next meeting | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell can use his "dfl" veto, but he generally respects votes :) | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | with icon in the systray, there is no need for a popup for people to figure out katapult exists.... | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | and I don't see the problem to let people right click on the icon and click "hide" | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | windows systray is nice on that point | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | you can hide things, but you have a little arrow to show all hiden ones.... | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | that WAY better than kde one, where hidden means "unaccessible" | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: don't you think ? | 02:58 |
| Mez | "dfl" ? | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | dictator for life :) | 02:58 |
| Mez | lol | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | he his the boss, so even if we have a council, he has the final decision | 02:58 |
| Mez | but thats mark | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | which is normal btw | 02:58 |
| === Mez wants to eb part of the kubuntu council | ||
| Tonio_ | Mez: mark doesn't take any decisions for kde | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: we'll we are going to renew the council in may | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: depends if people still want me or not :) | 02:59 |
| Mez | Tonio_, why wouldnt they | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: but the idea is to rotate positions | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: because the point is not to keep the same people :) | 02:59 |
| Mez | Tonio_, I was just gonna say that though | 02:59 |
| Mez | I think the current choices are good | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | well of course a few people will stay, but not everyone, I may not even apply, I don't know | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | in any case the council is not everything, the communauty also votes, the council is just there in case no decision comes along | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | so I wouldn't have any issue not beeing in the council anymore, despite I like it ;) | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | feisty will probably be the first really mature version of kubuntu, that's the cool point | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | it is already better than edgy | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | and time to polish and fix bugs | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning the HPLIP thing, the only solution I can see is to patch to provide 2 desktop files, once for gnome with onlyshowin gnome and create a new one for kde.... | 03:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: are you okay on that point ? | 03:12 |
| Mez | Tonio_, should I upgrade then ? | 03:16 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: I would say yes | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: lots of critical issues like knm crashing are resolved in feisty | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | depends on your usage, but in my opinion, that more stable | 03:17 |
| Mez | Tonio_, is this fixed? | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: the problem is that it can crash tomorrow :) | 03:17 |
| Mez | X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 | 03:17 |
| Mez | Major opcode: 148 | 03:17 |
| Mez | Minor opcode: 3 | 03:17 |
| Mez | Resource id: 0x0 | 03:17 |
| Mez | Failed to open device | 03:17 |
| Mez | Tonio_, I know enough to fix it though | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: the knm frozen on systray ? yeah I merged debian patches yesterday for this issue | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: what is that issue ? | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: I'm talking about the session restore thing that makes knm crash on session restore | 03:18 |
| Mez | lol | 03:23 |
| Mez | I've never used knm | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: hehe | 03:31 |
| Mez | Tonio_, @ what ? | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | that you never used it, you're wrong, it is a very nice peace of software ;) | 03:32 |
| Tonio_ | although aseigo hates it | 03:32 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: the bad device thing, isn't that just the wacom cleaning in xorg.conf requirede ? | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | required ? | 03:33 |
| Mez | Tonio_, ah probably | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: yeah that drives me nuts........ I can't wait for a "autoconfig" xorg..... | 03:34 |
| Mez | hmm .... | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | should be at the end of the year | 03:34 |
| === Mez is reading planet gnome | ||
| Mez | Tonio_, fancy looking at somehting in revu ? | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: sure | 03:35 |
| Mez | oh wait | 03:35 |
| Mez | it's got 2 comments | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: but I don't revu gnome stuff, as I'm not very aware of gnome specific packaging :) | 03:36 |
| Mez | Tonio_, it's not even gnome ;) | 03:36 |
| Mez | it's fltk | 03:36 |
| Mez | lol | 03:36 |
| Mez | but I've had a couple of comments | 03:36 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 03:37 |
| Tonio_ | ping me in the future if you need revu | 03:37 |
| Mez | Tonio_, I'll ping you in a mo | 03:40 |
| Mez | I'm happy with it | 03:41 |
| Mez | it's had lots of reviews | 03:41 |
| Mez | if you're happy I'ma gonna upload it | 03:41 |
| Mez | (seeing as you're -core-dev | 03:41 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: well that's for universe right ? you can upload it if you're a motu :) | 03:42 |
| Mez | yeah i know | 03:43 |
| Mez | but - I want to see your review of it first ;) | 03:43 |
| Mez | I trust you'll make sure you pint out anything obvious | 03:43 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: hehe okay :) | 03:43 |
| Mez | then I'll upload if you say theres nothing wrong with it | 03:43 |
| Mez | only issue is man pages | 03:43 |
| Mez | which i aintwriting | 03:43 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: well I'm not the hardest reviewer out there | 03:43 |
| Tonio_ | get Daniel revuing it, and have fun :) | 03:44 |
| === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-52-113.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Mez | loargh | 03:52 |
| Mez | I just uploaded to ubuntu anyways | 03:52 |
| Mez | accident | 03:52 |
| Tonio_ | http://kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=51747&id=1 | 03:53 |
| Tonio_ | i WANT that in the repos | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | the really missing in konqueror, and kget is completly crappy | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | let package it ;) | 03:54 |
| === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Mez | Tonio_, joint packaging ? | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | what does "joint" me ? | 03:57 |
| Tonio_ | means | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | sorry I'm tired :) | 03:58 |
| Mez | collaborative | 03:59 |
| === Jucato_ [n=jucato@124.106.176.133] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Mez: with ? are you interested ? | 04:01 |
| Mez | nvm | 04:01 |
| Mez | Tonio_, https://launchpad.net/edgy-backports/+bug/80579 | 04:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80579 in edgy-backports "backport kxmame" [Undecided,In progress] | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: perfect thanks ! | 04:03 |
| manchicken | w00t! Hacking time. | 04:03 |
| Mez | manchicken, ? | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: are you motu ? I should have finished the packaging in a moment, just a man to write :) | 04:04 |
| Mez | Tonio_, yes :d | 04:05 |
| Mez | hence my upload just now | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | hehe okay | 04:05 |
| Mez | nostromo_1.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes is NEW | 04:05 |
| manchicken | Mez: I'm hacking adept ^_^ | 04:06 |
| Mez | manchicken, woo | 04:06 |
| Mez | Tonio_, i'm a lot of things | 04:06 |
| Mez | http://launchpad.net/~mez/ | 04:06 |
| Tonio_ | https://launchpad.net/~tonio/ | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | you win................... | 04:07 |
| Mez | Tonio_, I'm thinking about keeping the katapult debian dir in BZR ... | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: very nice | 04:07 |
| Mez | seeing as it's you an i who make the most changes to it - you happy with that ? | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: aren't you the guy I discussed here when you came in first asking what needed coding on kubuntu ? | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: hum... bzr is too slow actually in my opinion | 04:08 |
| Mez | Tonio_, ? | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: we manage kds in bzr, but I don't much like it | 04:08 |
| Mez | I like it | 04:08 |
| Mez | and it's easier | 04:08 |
| manchicken | Tonio_: Yeah. | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: hehe, cool :) for once someone asks what to do and does it :) | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: generally, it always ends at the first step :) | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: well easier, but longer since it doules the job | 04:09 |
| manchicken | Tonio_: Riddell showed me the adept specs, and I've got one of them implemented already. | 04:09 |
| Mez | bzr bind ;) | 04:09 |
| manchicken | I got the main package indicator thing done. | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: and at the moment I don't see the benefit | 04:09 |
| manchicken | It's in my bzr if you want... | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: yeah I've seen this :) | 04:10 |
| manchicken | Ah, yeah. jr committed it. | 04:10 |
| Mez | Tonio_, i have to maintian in ubuntu and debian | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | that's cool since mornfall seems to have abandonned adept... | 04:10 |
| Mez | i like to easily sync changelogs from ubuntu to debian | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: in that case yes, maybe that can be usefull | 04:10 |
| manchicken | He seems interested in what I'm doing with it though. | 04:10 |
| manchicken | I'm interested in his feedback. | 04:10 |
| Mez | Tonio_, plus all the katapult dev is done in bzr anyways | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: on that point I'm okay, in that specific case it makes sense | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: but the best is to put the debian folder in the source no ? | 04:11 |
| Mez | sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/katapult/debian | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | that's even simpler :) | 04:11 |
| Mez | Tonio_, no cause that makes it a debian native package :D | 04:12 |
| Mez | and causes problems on using my release scripts | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | ah ok | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: didn't knew you used scripts, that's the reason | 04:13 |
| Mez | my release scripts made in ruby ;) | 04:13 |
| Mez | lol | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: bah that's cool :) | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: don't laught, but I generally script with php-cli | 04:13 |
| Mez | lol | 04:13 |
| Mez | nah | 04:13 |
| Mez | php is cool | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | I'm probably the only sysadmin in the world using this :) | 04:13 |
| Mez | hence my mez@php.net email | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | yeah but not that commonly used for admin scripting | 04:14 |
| Mez | https://code.launchpad.net/~katapult-dev/+branch/katapult/release_scripts | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | package done.... 19 minutes | 04:14 |
| Mez | apologies for all the cruft in the debian dir ;) | 04:14 |
| Mez | Tonio_, lol | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | that's not good, my record is 14 | 04:14 |
| Mez | cdbs ? :P | 04:15 |
| === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A73C98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | hehe of course :) | 04:15 |
| Mez | Tonio_, should i release 0.4 beta ? | 04:16 |
| Mez | (katapult) | 04:16 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: bah why not ! | 04:19 |
| === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: You there? I'm trying to figure out exactly what user experience to go for here. | 05:13 |
| manchicken | Awful quiet for a Friday night. | 05:20 |
| Jucato | I think it's 4:00 AM of a Saturday for him | 05:22 |
| manchicken | Weaksauce ;) | 05:22 |
| === rdorsch [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.115] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Mez | @time NZ | 05:35 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in NZ: January 20 2007, 17:35:16 | 05:35 |
| Mez | @time New Zealand | 05:35 |
| === Jucato waits... | ||
| manchicken | I've got 2251 | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14115 | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: watch this !!!!!! | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | that's what we need ! | 05:52 |
| Mez | Tonio_, package away | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: looks like there is a debian packlage somewhere..... | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: and this thing is stable, great | 05:53 |
| Mez | lol | 05:53 |
| Jucato | there's an ubuntu package, it seems | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | and maintained ! | 05:53 |
| Mez | Jucato, in the archive ? | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | I just hope it is not a xmess only frontend..... I'd like if it could use other emulators, like snes9x or others... | 05:55 |
| Jucato | not. the kde-apps page | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: no but upstream provides a ubuntu package | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | that's cool :) | 05:55 |
| Mez | Tonio_, then poke it m ake sure it's ok - put in archive | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | sure | 05:57 |
| Tonio_ | grrrrrrrrrrrrr that's a kommander script....... | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | well it's easy to package, that's not the point, but I HATE kommander | 06:01 |
| manchicken | Why doesn't Riddell get up early in the morning to answer all my questions? | 06:14 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 06:15 |
| Jucato | manchicken: probably same reason you don't stay up late to be able to ask those questions when he's awake? | 06:16 |
| Jucato | :P | 06:16 |
| manchicken | I do. | 06:16 |
| manchicken | I'll probably be up to 0200 Chicago time tonight for that very reason ^_^ | 06:16 |
| Jucato | it's just 11:15PM CST, right? | 06:17 |
| === Mez [n=Mez@synergy.sourceguru.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Mez | hahaha | 06:23 |
| Mez | fglrx problems again | 06:23 |
| === MrWGW [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | Yay! Garbage drivers. :( | 06:35 |
| manchicken | I was very disappointed when I tried fglrx. | 06:35 |
| === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Mez | it worked quite well for me in edgy | 06:36 |
| Mez | Tonio_, what was that link again ? | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14115 | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | ? | 06:42 |
| Tonio_ | but I'm testing something else -> XE | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | multi machines emulator, for linux, but non free | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | works pretty nicelly, and is super easy to configure | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | the only problem is that I have no sound | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | the good thing is that you don't have anything to configure, just open a rom and it auto select the good module, that's cool | 06:44 |
| Mez | Tonio_, that links got a quite nice menu | 06:45 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: yes but that's kommander.... | 06:45 |
| Mez | Tonio_, ? | 06:46 |
| Tonio_ | yes ? | 06:46 |
| Jucato | ? | 06:46 |
| Jucato | don't you just love questions marks? :) | 06:46 |
| Mez | Tonio_, where does kommander come into it | 06:48 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: you have kommander files for the ui | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | it depends on kommander, I tried it, beleive me ;) | 06:49 |
| Mez | hmm | 06:49 |
| Mez | this is nice | 06:49 |
| Mez | it gets the bioses for you | 06:49 |
| Mez | though kxmame isnt finding a bloody thing for me | 06:50 |
| Mez | Tonio_, I've no idea how to get kxmame to reocgnise and play this damn game | 07:01 |
| Mez | ah i dont have the right bios | 07:01 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: bah I can explain but that's really complicated | 07:01 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: what game is that ? | 07:01 |
| Mez | Tonio_, I need the snes pal bios ;) | 07:01 |
| Mez | Tonio_, does your ftp have the bioses ? | 07:02 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: use zsnes or gsnes9x | 07:02 |
| Tonio_ | xmess is slow with snes btw | 07:02 |
| Mez | LOL | 07:03 |
| Mez | fair enough | 07:03 |
| Mez | kxmame is very confusing | 07:03 |
| Mez | my fscking god | 07:05 |
| Mez | gsnes9x is fugly | 07:05 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: bah zsnes is okay | 07:07 |
| Mez | zsnes has no joystick support | 07:07 |
| Mez | Tonio_, I think your right | 07:08 |
| Mez | best for emulators is windows | 07:08 |
| Mez | which is weird when you consider linux is the ultimate emulator really | 07:08 |
| Mez | how do i find whats hogging my sound card? | 07:09 |
| Tonio_ | hum..... | 07:10 |
| Tonio_ | what is the script to configure X with nvidia ? | 07:10 |
| Mez | nvm | 07:10 |
| Mez | Tonio_, no idea | 07:10 |
| Tonio_ | I can see nvidia-glx-config and nvidia-xconfig | 07:10 |
| jdong | both :) | 07:16 |
| jdong | nvidia-glx-config is ours, nvidia-xconfig is upstream's | 07:16 |
| === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-007-051.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Lathiat | nvidia-glx-config doesnt work in feisty atm FYI | 07:38 |
| Lathiat | it fails to load the module because /etc/X11/xorg.cofn doesnt include 'nvidia' as the driver | 07:38 |
| Lathiat | and it doesnt add nvidia to the config because the module fails to load | 07:38 |
| Lathiat | ;) | 07:38 |
| === mbiebl [n=michael@e180086061.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEF71A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee wonders exactly what tonio_ committed to knetworkmanager | ||
| mhb | morning | 08:34 |
| Hobbsee | heya mhb | 08:36 |
| === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.113] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Jucato | hi Hobbsee! | 08:39 |
| Hobbsee | heya Jucato | 08:40 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, Removed 04-dbus_access.patch, as that's specific to debian. | 08:46 |
| Mez | Kubuntu uses pam_console and not group to access dbus. | 08:46 |
| Mez | * Added debian/DEBIAN-KUBUNTU-DIFFERENCES file describing this | 08:46 |
| Mez | change for easy merging in the future. | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: hrm. well, it's buggering up meaning that i cant connect when i first boot. | 08:47 |
| === Mez doesnt use knm :D | ||
| Jucato | Hobbsee: have you seen this? http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4611592451.html | 08:47 |
| === Jucato wasn't aware that there was such a move by the "Ubuntu development team" | ||
| mhb | Jucato: oh this thing | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: oh...that... | 08:49 |
| Jucato | yes.. that... | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: they were requiring people to pay for the development thing, too | 08:49 |
| mhb | Jucato: that's not Ubuntu development team at all, just one guy AFAIK | 08:49 |
| Jucato | which is what bothers me... | 08:49 |
| Jucato | the article seems to be implying that it's an official project | 08:49 |
| Jucato | I thought I either missed an issue of LWN or missed some gossip :) | 08:50 |
| Jucato | er.. s/LWN/UWN | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: that's on crack... | 08:52 |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | ||
| Jucato | so it's really not official? | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | no | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | well, it's a thing off the forums | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | people were asking for money on -devel a while ago, to implement it | 08:53 |
| Jucato | yeah... that's the only link he could give in the article, which made me dubious. I followed links to the wiki and LP... nothing official. the spec isn't even approved or assigned to anyone | 08:54 |
| Jucato | could we forward this article to someone who could sort of write to the author? | 08:55 |
| mhb | #ubuntu-devel could be enough, maybe | 08:56 |
| Jucato | oooh... | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: if it's on the forums only, it's definetly not part of core ubuntu development | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: it's not official | 08:56 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I know | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | it would ahve to be on ubuntu-devel, with a release announcement on ubuntu-devel-announce | 08:57 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I was referring to "could we forward this article to someone..." | 08:57 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: except for those affairs that are official (like the wiki weekend...) | 08:57 |
| Jucato | there are some announcements on the forums that are official, though | 08:57 |
| Jucato | like the Forum council and stuff... but anyway | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: ahh. i dont think they're against the GPL in doing it. mind you, modifying the ubuntu bootloader i hear isnt legal... | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: true | 08:57 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: no, but Jucato is right that someone should write to the author about the fact that this isn't an officially approved project | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: indeed. | 08:58 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: you're in #ubuntu-devel? might want to ping someone there about this. the article is on digg... and that's scary | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | so's automatix | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | it probably falls in the same category | 08:59 |
| Hobbsee | besides, it's a saturday | 08:59 |
| Jucato | oh... right... saturday... | 08:59 |
| === Jucato checks the calendar | ||
| === Jucato thinks that the Alacarte menu editor for GNOME is the only project from the forums that became official... | ||
| === MrWGW [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] | ||
| Hobbsee | !gpg | 09:04 |
| === Jucato scratches his head in -ops... but prefers not to say it there :P | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:05 |
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | ..... no way to get nvidia-glx driver working on my machine........ I don't get the point | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_ | 09:15 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: hey. | 09:15 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: was wineconfig crashing on you? | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: yeah I sent the log to sebas | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: interested getting the mail too ? | 09:18 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: it pretty easy to fix. | 09:18 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: yes | 09:18 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: str() only works for 8bit strings. unicode() should be used all the time. | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | email ? | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: what email address ? | 09:19 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: simon@simonzone.com | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | the email is gone | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | hi Hobbsee (forgot this, sorry) | 09:20 |
| _Sime | Hobbsee: Hi | 09:25 |
| Hobbsee | heya :) | 09:25 |
| _Sime | I got back from Oz this week. | 09:25 |
| _Sime | spent 2 weeks in Queensland. | 09:25 |
| _Sime | Deb and I brought back 4 packets of Tim Tams. :-) | 09:26 |
| === luc [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === vinboy_ [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957B5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Jucato_ [n=jucato@124.106.176.133] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | I really would like to test this : http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=49765 | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | beautifull, and probably merged in kde4 aswell :) | 11:38 |
| mhb | Tonio_: beautiful maybe, but (at least on the screenshot there) the contacts take a lot of space | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: that's why I want to test it :) | 11:42 |
| mhb | Tonio_: I may be totally wrong though | 11:42 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: more than this the patches makes the contact list themable, which isn't possible actually | 11:43 |
| mhb | Tonio_: true. Well, go for the testing and then tell us how you liked it, if something breaks in terms of usability and so on and so forth :o) | 11:45 |
| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Mez] by ChanServ | ||
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-b ubotu!*@*] by Mez | ||
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Mez] by ChanServ | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if you come here today : kdenetwork doesn't build actually due to linux-kernel-headers | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the error is known and impact kopete (same problem than what we had with kcontrol/joystick | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm testing a fix for this, so if you have issues building 3.5.6 let me know ;) | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/kdenetwork | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm testing the first fix in debian/rules | 12:15 |
| === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DB98.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-82-81-98-241.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.113] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | Tonio_: thanks | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the exact fix is : DEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT_ENV += CXXFLAGS="$(CXXFLAGS) -std=gnu++98" | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | in debian/rules | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | works here | 01:34 |
| === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-82-81-98-241.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-52-113.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === mars [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-166-230.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| mhb | the kubuntu-feisty-networking spec says "Switch to knetworkmanager as default application for wire/wireless network management (see NetworkRoaming)" ... I'm trying to set up knetworkmanager but it only lists wired connections here (my girlfriend's Edgy laptop) | 02:32 |
| RadiantFire | mhb: try commenting out everything except for loopback in /etc/network/interfaces | 02:33 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: thanks ... I didn't want support actually, I just wondered if the knetworkmanager is going to be different in Feisty :o) | 02:35 |
| RadiantFire | it should be | 02:35 |
| RadiantFire | that was my impression | 02:36 |
| RadiantFire | i dunno, I just idle cuz I like listening to the chitchat | 02:36 |
| === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] | ||
| === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === rdorsch [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/x-8b3b58ad7cb1b562] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DB98.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [n=francis@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| freeflying | Riddell: | 03:39 |
| freeflying | from QtLanguageSelectorGUI import Ui_QtLanguageSelectorGUI | 03:39 |
| freeflying | ImportError | 03:39 |
| freeflying | : | 03:39 |
| freeflying | cannot import name Ui_QtLanguageSelectorGUI | 03:39 |
| freeflying | Riddell: when run qt-language-selector, error give like above | 03:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: forget about the build issue, it only impacts kdenetwork 3.5.5, not 3.5.6 | 03:41 |
| === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d93210f5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d93210f5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-151.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: If you get a minute, I'm not entirely certain what sort of user experience the spec is calling for when adept_batch is done. I can give you pretty much any behavior there pretty quickly, but I'm stuck not understanding what you want done. | 04:44 |
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === mhb_ [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| ryanakca | Tonio_: looks cool | 05:17 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: if you build a package of kopete with it... I'm willing to test it... | 05:18 |
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| gnomefreak | is there a way to get the kicker to not start up when logging in but to start kooldock instead? | 05:37 |
| === hunger [n=tobias@p54A73C98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| apokryphos | gnomefreak: if you make kicker hidden (i.e. with just the tab on the right) then I believe it'll stay like that when you've relogged in | 05:46 |
| gnomefreak | oh ok but no way to replace it with another docker? | 05:47 |
| apokryphos | ln -s /usr/bin/kooldock ~/.kde/Autostart/kooldock | 05:47 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok tu | 05:47 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 05:48 |
| apokryphos | np | 05:49 |
| Jucato | apokryphos: actually... dang I was too late... | 06:01 |
| === rdorsch [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/x-a871a98a2f5afa21] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.242.175.217] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === rdorsch [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/x-ca6ee9ebd4edfa4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495613B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii | hi all | 06:27 |
| Lure | hi kwwii | 06:28 |
| Jucato | hi kwwii!! | 06:28 |
| kwwii | so....let's figure out where in the heck polyster style puts it config file | 06:28 |
| === Tonio__ [n=tonio@243.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii | mhb_: ping? | 06:34 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: ping | 06:41 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: heh nice :P were you able to hide kicker like you wanted to? | 06:41 |
| gnomefreak | no | 06:41 |
| gnomefreak | kicker only hides it doesnt go away but i will work with it later i have to run out now | 06:42 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Getting_Rid_of_The_Panel | 06:42 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 06:42 |
| Jucato | :) | 06:42 |
| === vinboy_ [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Jucato | nice contentless ping, btw | 06:42 |
| === mbiebl [n=michael@e180086061.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === rdorsch [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/x-dec1e5391729d07b] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === rdorsch [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/x-1c69eb9401f2fc39] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away | ||
| === rdorsch [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/x-96e28864d5c3500c] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === manchicken [n=manchick@adsl-75-22-14-24.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: You there? | 08:38 |
| === manchicken_ [n=manchick@adsl-75-22-14-24.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: You about? I'd really like to have a chat about the adept_batch changes. | 09:08 |
| manchicken | i've got a GLUG meeting in less than an hour though. | 09:08 |
| === rdorsch [i=rdorsch@nat/ibm/session] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #kubuntu-devel ["trombone"] | ||
| === manchicken [n=manchick@38.98.164.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| allee | Lure: about kaffeine/amarok. Isn't there a Priority file for desktop files? | 09:59 |
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Lure | allee: no clue about that - Tonio is working on that... | 10:10 |
| allee | Lure: sorry, I thought you are due to the wiki text change | 10:11 |
| gnomefreak | who is resonsible for kooldock | 10:12 |
| === manchicken_ [n=manchick@dhcp116.id.iit.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak about tired of trying to make menu work :( | ||
| Riddell | hi manchicken_ | 10:24 |
| === mhb_ is now known as mhb | ||
| mhb | kwwii: sorry about the delay, it's weekend :o) | 10:27 |
| Riddell | manchicken_: adept_batch should just quit once it's finished installing the packages. it shouldn't do anything else, just quit | 10:29 |
| manchicken_ | Riddell: Oh. That's pretty easy. | 10:31 |
| Riddell | manchicken: the point is that adept_batch is only ever called from scripts, so it's the job of the script to tell you if it got installed ok or not | 10:31 |
| manchicken | I'm wondering if it should say "Done" first. | 10:32 |
| Riddell | nope | 10:33 |
| Riddell | we considered it, but it's the job of the script that runs adept_batch to keep the user informed | 10:33 |
| manchicken | No? Okie dokie. | 10:33 |
| manchicken | I was concerned that that it just going away would make people think that it had crashed. | 10:33 |
| Riddell | there's all of one script that uses it, so we have all the use cases covered :) | 10:35 |
| === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | heh | 10:36 |
| manchicken | Okie dokie. | 10:36 |
| manchicken | I'll exit afterwards. | 10:36 |
| manchicken | The tooltip thing is hating me right now. | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | manchicken: dont feel bad kde hates my guts today | 10:39 |
| manchicken | heh | 10:39 |
| gnomefreak | this might sound stupid after my last comment but Riddell so far most everything works in 3.5.6 ;) | 10:41 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: edgy or feisty? | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | feisty | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | will testt edgy starting sometime in the next week | 10:44 |
| === gnomefreak needs a kmenu | ||
| mhb | well I'd love to get that Kopete bubble bug fixed | 10:44 |
| gnomefreak | hmm wonders if i should try building the latest version | 10:46 |
| kwwii | mhb: do you know where the config for a user set polyester is? | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: are we looking at adding kooldock 4.x into feisty? | 10:46 |
| kwwii | mhb: I want to find the file that determines what I have changed on my local machine | 10:47 |
| kwwii | I turned off the glassy menubar in apps | 10:47 |
| Riddell | kwwii: ~/.qt ? | 10:48 |
| kwwii | and turned off the grey stripe on the menus | 10:48 |
| kwwii | Riddell: yeah, thanks | 10:48 |
| kwwii | I looked everywhere in .kde :p | 10:48 |
| mhb | kwwii: have you tried qtcurve yet? | 10:49 |
| kwwii | Riddell: so can we test using polyester with these settings and a new color scheme (less saturated purple for the selection/scroll bar) | 10:49 |
| kwwii | mhb: nope, haven't tried it yet | 10:50 |
| kwwii | just installed this machine a few days ago | 10:50 |
| kwwii | Riddell: just sent you an email with the idea and the files | 10:53 |
| === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-053-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: What do you think about adding backup stuff to the installer? | 11:02 |
| === jpetso_away is now known as jpetso | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: I've seen an increase in people who're focusing so much on neat stuff that they forget about backing up, and they end up SOL when something bad happens. | 11:05 |
| === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | manchicken: backing up what? | 11:09 |
| === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEF71A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | The /home tree particularly. | 11:09 |
| === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-053-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | manchicken: a port of home user backup to KDE would be nice | 11:15 |
| Riddell | not sure it needs integrating into a package manager | 11:15 |
| fdoving | a nice thing is to include /var/backups/ :) | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | btw guys kxdocker is still broken. been that way since dapper | 11:18 |
| gnomefreak | iirc | 11:18 |
| === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === rdorsch [n=rdorsch@12.170.118.2] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: I'm thinking it might be good to have that as an extra tab in the installer. | 11:39 |
| manchicken | Maybe like on the last page have alist of "things you may want to do" checkboxes. | 11:39 |
| === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl7-82-82.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl7-82-82.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] | ||
| manchicken | Riddell: adept_batch changes are done. | 11:47 |
| manchicken | I decided to use signals and slots rather than just closing in line, just to make it a little more extendable in the future. | 11:48 |
| manchicken | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~manchicken/adept/adept-batch-finish/ | 11:49 |
| === Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@C6dd6.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | manchicken: excellent | 11:58 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: should I announce kubuntu-de.org on the kubuntu.org front page? | 11:59 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: ah wait a bit for that | 11:59 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: I should send you a mail before that :D | 12:00 |
| ryanakca | manchicken / Adept people: http://pastebin.ca/322657 error upgrading to kde 3.5.6 today... It's fixed according to (lost link)... sudo rm /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/actions/adept_notifier_warning.png ? | 12:14 |
| gnomefreak | ryanakca: sudo dpkg -i --froce-overwrite worked for me | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | force* | 12:16 |
| ryanakca | kk | 12:16 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!