[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80664 in democracyplayer (universe) "[Feisty]  Crash with python2.5 and dbus problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80664
[12:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80663 in bluez-btsco (universe) "please sync to the last 0.5 upstream release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80663
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80665 in Ubuntu "Network folder wizard can't accept entry above port 32767" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80665
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80668 in Ubuntu "The system freezes and the message box with the Bug appears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80668
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80666 in azureus (universe) "Azureus crashed when starting a new torrent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80666
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80669 in kyamo (universe) "[feisty]  kyamo hangs at 90% cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80669
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80670 in kyamo (universe) "[Feisty]  kyamos dialog box cancel is spelled wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80670
[12:48] <gnomefreak> good morning Hobbsee
[12:48] <Hobbsee> hey gnomefreak
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: kyamo is broken the latest upload atleast
[12:53] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: oh dear?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> cancel spelled wrong and 90+% cpu
[12:54] <gnomefreak> bugs 80670 and 80699
[12:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80670 in kyamo "[Feisty]  kyamos dialog box cancel is spelled wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80670
[12:55] <gnomefreak> bug 80669 also
[12:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80669 in kyamo "[feisty]  kyamo hangs at 90% cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80669
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80672 in gnome-system-tools (main) "network-admin..crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80672
[01:05] <pochu> 80672
[01:05] <pochu> bug 80672
[01:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80672 in gnome-system-tools "network-admin..crash (dup-of: 71248)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80672
[01:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71248 in dbus "apps using dbus hang when runned with sudo" [Unknown,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71248
[01:07] <pochu> bug 80672
[01:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80672 in gnome-system-tools "network-admin..crash (dup-of: 71248)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80672
[01:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71248 in dbus "apps using dbus hang when runned with sudo" [Unknown,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71248
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80673 in Ubuntu "Installer crashes on partitioner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80673
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80674 in ubiquity (main) "fedora - ubuntu dual boot install crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80674
[01:32] <crimsun> bug 76493, 76801, 78230, 80664
[01:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76493 in democracyplayer "Democracy player won't start [feisty] " [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76493
[01:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76801 in democracyplayer "Democracyplayer crashes when I start it up" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76801
[01:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78230 in democracyplayer "democracy tv crashes panel bars and then itself on "launch at system startup"" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78230
[01:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80664 in democracyplayer "[Feisty]  Crash with python2.5 and dbus problem" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80664
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80677 in gnome-phone-manager (universe) "gnome-phone-manager whines about notification area" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80677
[01:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80678 in ubiquity (main) "Feisty installer crashes during partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80678
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80679 in gnome-utils (main) "beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80679
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80681 in firefox (main) "Clicked on a favorite and recieved some weird mouse icon and then firefox crashed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80681
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80680 in totem (main) "[patch]  totem-video-thumbnailer broken in 2.17.5 (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80680
[02:28] <sfllaw> pochu: Welcome!
[02:28] <pochu> hi simon
[02:28] <pochu> thanks!
[02:29] <pochu> sfllaw: i love to help open source
[02:29] <pochu> and Ubuntu!
[02:29] <pochu> :D
[02:32] <sfllaw> pochu: Yay!
[02:33] <pochu> sfllaw: I have read the wiki page
[02:33] <pochu> sfllaw: and have seen that the unconfirmed bugs are growing
[02:33] <pochu> sfllaw: should I pay special attention to those bugs?
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80683 in ubiquity (main) "PC Ubuntu 6.10 installer from live cd crashed on ThinkpadR60" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80683
[02:52] <pochu> good bye everybody!
[02:52] <pochu> good bye sfllaw
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80684 in rhythmbox (main) "Randomly stops playing radio streams" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80684
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80685 in gaim (main) "gaim will not connect to jabber clients on AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80685
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80686 in totem (main) "Totem crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80686
[03:48] <persia> sfllaw: You seem to be the primary maintainer of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs.  Any comments on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix?
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80687 in adept (main) "Adept crashes after removing tags" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80687
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80688 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes for no obvious reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80688
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80689 in totem (main) "Totem-gstreamer crash on wmv files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80689
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80690 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80690
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80691 in Ubuntu "mozilla-firefox-locale-fr-fr not installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80691
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80692 in democracyplayer (universe) "democracyplayer crashes on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80692
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80693 in gaim-otr (universe) "GAIM-OTR w/ Gaim beta 6 icon does not show up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80693
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80694 in rezound (universe) "Please sync rezound 0.12.2beta-8 (universe) from Debian (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80694
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80695 in compiz (universe) "Cube no longer works in 0.3.6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80695
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80697 in update-manager (main) "changelogs.ubuntu.com isn't the right place for 3rd-party packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80697
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80698 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80698
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80699 in ktrack (universe) "[Merge]  ktrack 0.3.0-alpha1-9 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80699
[09:16] <Hobbsee> palski: did you actually build ktrack?
[09:17] <palski> Hobbsee: yes, on edgy and on feisty
[09:17] <palski> why? it doesn't build?
[09:17] <Hobbsee> hrm.  it didnt use to build, which was why i didnt fix it
[09:18] <palski> that'w weird, I build it on feisty and tested it works fine
[09:19] <Hobbsee> cool
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80700 in Ubuntu "Beryl-core crash after a minute of activating it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80700
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80701 in kpowersave (universe) "[Merge]  kpowersave (0.6.2-4) from debian unstable" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80701
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80702 in human-icon-theme (main) "Keyboard indicator flags are missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80702
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80703 in gerris (universe) "[Sync Request]  please, sync gerris (0.6.0-3.1) from debian unstable" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80703
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80704 in knetworkmanager (main) "doesn't show wireless networks anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80704
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80705 in Ubuntu "Digital camera detected as photo card, but has generic drive icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80705
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80707 in Ubuntu "installer crashed while trying to get the list of partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80707
[11:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80706 in Ubuntu "Dapper doesnet run on new hardware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80706
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80708 in mp3blaster (universe) "unknown bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80708
[11:44] <a7p> bug 80706 ... what to do about this one? (someone complains about new hardware not beeing supported by dapper kernels).
[11:45] <a7p> I'd like to reject it, but I'm a bit irrational if it comes to unsupported hw.
[11:53] <palski> a7p: is that hw supported by edgy kernel?
[11:55] <persia> a7p: You might want to ask the user which hardware isn't supported.  Although it is unlikely to be fixed in Dapper, it could at least be tracked as the kernel supports new hardware.
[11:56] <persia> a7p: Based on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedHardware, I'm not sure rejection is the appropriate response.
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80709 in firefox (main) "Crashed while opening a scripted window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80709
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80710 in python-django (universe) "please sync django 0.95-3 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80710
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80711 in xdelta (universe) "Please sync xdelta 1.1.3-7 (universe) from Debian (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80711
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80712 in sysrqd (universe) "please sync sysrqd 9-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80712
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80713 in update-manager (main) "[Feisty]  meta-release problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80713
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80714 in firefox (main) "javascript menus are under the flash animation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80714
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80715 in music-applet (universe) "[Sync Request]  Please, sync music-applet (0.9.2-3) from debian unstable" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80715
[12:30] <medders> I'm having a bit of trouble deciding what to do
[12:30] <medders> can I mark a bug as confirmed if I can't reproduce it but have a backtrace?
[12:32] <palski> if backtraces are good enough it can be confirmed imho
[12:33] <medders> palski: cheers, how would you know if it's good enough though?
[12:34] <did447> medders: IMO if with the same setup you can't reproduce it's a needs Info.
[12:35] <palski> from wiki: *Are there sufficient log files and crash dumps, as outlined in DebuggingProcedures?
[12:35] <medders> did447: Okay, even he says that it was a one off, but he has a backtrace, so thats why im slightly confused
[12:36] <medders> palski: I'll check again, it's a long log file which my pc is finding it hard to handle
[12:39] <medders> I've just noticed something on the debuggingFirefox page, i'll mark it as rejected because it only happened once
[12:39] <medders> thanks everyone
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80716 in widelands (universe) "Widelands not completely covered in Launchpad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80716
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80717 in Ubuntu "xgl / beryl crashes at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80717
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80718 in Ubuntu "Recovery the system from /home partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80718
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80719 in spca5xx (universe) "The image is way too dark" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80719
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80720 in update-manager (main) "can't get updates: too many errors processing archives" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80720
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80721 in desktop-effects (universe) "desktop-effects package in feisty does not depend on the required compiz-gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80721
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80722 in acpi-support (main) "[feisty]  time to think for a new wireless.sh" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80722
[01:34] <pochu> Hello everybody!
[01:34] <pochu> I have a question: when a bug is not really a bug, but it is a feature request, should I close it and tell the reporter to create a feature request at blueprints?
[01:35] <pochu> or what should i do?
[01:40] <a7p> pochu, it depends ...
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80723 in libgda2 (main) "Please update to libgda 1.2.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80723
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80724 in Ubuntu "beryl doesnot start. It tells me "segmentation fault"." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80724
[01:41] <persia> pochu: If it is non-trivial, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-a6a607f04004fd7e46c40b41b959bf083d046b7e.  If simple, Try a different reponse from the page.
[01:41] <pochu> i'm taking a look
[01:43] <Beaver74> hello all
[01:43] <pochu> hi Beaver74
[01:45] <pochu> persia: could you look at this bug report and tell me if I should close it and ask the user to create a new feature request?
[01:45] <pochu> bug 80718
[01:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80718 in Ubuntu "Recovery the system from /home partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80718
[01:46] <Beaver74> can i ask about a known bug ,"Bug 1396" ... i have some problems with my "Tseng ET4000/W32p" card ?
[01:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1396 in imgseek "Crash at startup : cannot import module named  imgdb.so" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1396
[01:47] <persia> pochu: That looks non-trivial to me, although the submitter may be assisted by dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections, depending on how deep they want to get into package management.
[01:47] <pochu> Beaver74, it says that has been fixed
[01:47] <pochu> Beaver74, what is your problem?
[01:49] <Beaver74> my prob is, that i cant start the xserver ... when i put "vesa" in the device section, than all looks wll ?!
[01:49] <Beaver74> +e
[01:49] <pochu> persia: i'm going to close it
[01:49] <Beaver74> (sry for my english :))
[01:49] <a7p> mmm ... does ubuntu support xgl ... someone's got a beryl-xgl-problem (I suspect he's even using the official feisty beryl)
[01:51] <geser> there are 2 beryl-packages in feisty, but afaik beryl isn't completely in feisty yet
[01:51] <persia> a7p: Feisty doesn't have beryl today (for AMD64).
[01:51] <pochu> Beaver74: I don't know, sorry
[01:51] <pochu> a7p: nor for x86
[01:51] <Beaver74> ok, thanks pochu !
[01:51] <geser> the last beryl reports I've seen where using the packages from beryl-project.org
[01:52] <pochu> geser: then the bugs should be reported to that package, not to ubuntu
[01:52] <pochu> in the upstream product
[01:53] <a7p> okay, thanks, I told him to report against the beryl package if he is using feisty and otherwise to be patient ...
[01:53] <Beaver74> pochu: can you tell me how i can find informations about the fix, ...
[01:55] <pochu> Beaver74: look at this:
[01:55] <pochu> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imgseek/+bug/1396/+activity
[01:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1396 in imgseek "Crash at startup : cannot import module named  imgdb.so" [Medium,Fix released] 
[01:55] <Beaver74> i googled so long, and cant find anything
[01:55] <Beaver74> ah, thank
[01:55] <pochu> maybe you should talk to Andrew Mitchell
[01:55] <pochu> or search for the upload he says
[01:56] <pochu> Beaver74: but if you have the same problem, you can reopen the bug
[01:56] <pochu> Beaver74: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80725 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-dictionary won't use dictd at localhost" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80725
[01:56] <Beaver74> im using the 6.06 "Dapper"
[01:56] <pochu> ok
[01:57] <afflux> a7p, bug #80724 is not using the official packages (i rejected it 30 seconds before you answered)
[01:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80724 in Ubuntu "beryl doesnot start. It tells me "segmentation fault"." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80724
[01:57] <pochu> it should be fixed there
[01:57] <Beaver74> and my tseng-driver version is the 1:1.0.0.5-ubuntu1
[01:57] <pochu> Beaver74: do what I've said you, and if you can't find more info, or you can't solve it, reopen the bug
[01:57] <Beaver74> yes, ok, will do so
[02:02] <Beaver74> bye
[02:09] <a7p> afflux, just saw it ...
[02:09] <a7p> changed status to rejected again.
[02:09] <afflux> alright, thank you.
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80727 in gnome-menus (main) "gnome control center should be renamed to control center" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80727
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80728 in gtkam (universe) "gtkam-0.1.14 missing Gnome menu icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80728
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80729 in Ubuntu "Beryl crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80729
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80730 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  Setting USB Headset as default device doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80730
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80731 in xorg (main) "Xorg consuming too much memory in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80731
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80732 in gnome-app-install (main) "Search filter not applied after app installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80732
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71679 in usplash (main) "Console setup at end of usplash fails, if artwork gets used (is on VT 7 instead of 8)" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71679
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80733 in gnome-app-install (main) "After search string changed apps list is not sorted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80733
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80734 in desktop-effects (universe) "desktop-effects doesn't start compiz correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80734
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80735 in totem (main) "[feisty]  totem-video-indexer crashes regularly because of a file in thunderbird inbox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80735
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80736 in gedit-plugins (universe) ""Build" shortcut (F8) does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80736
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80737 in gnome-media (main) "gstreamer-properties warning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80737
[04:30] <sfllaw> pochu: Yes, working on unconfirmed bugs, or rather untriaged bugs, is best.
[04:30] <sfllaw> persia: You make bug fixing sound so easy!
[04:31] <sfllaw> persia: I'd mention debdiff as part of your patch generation thingy, and how to interact with the bug tracking system as you're fixing the bug.
[04:32] <pochu> sfllaw: ok!
[04:33] <pochu> sfllaw: one question: do you all stay 24 hours at the PC or do you leave it on with the irc open?
[04:33] <pochu> :D
[04:33] <persia> sfllaw: I'm afraid of introducing debdiff to new users, as that requires updating the changelog to allow for easy installation.  If users start making patches with diff -Nur, and are interested in learning, I'm sure someone will point them to the MOTU/Hopeful pages.  I'm not sure about the current process for interacting with Malone while fixing the bug: I'd appreciate any pointers (or Wiki updates).
[04:36] <sfllaw> pochu: I leave my computer online.
[04:36] <sfllaw> pochu: That way, I can go back to when I was sleeping, in case someone was looking for me.
[04:36] <sfllaw> persia: I don't think we've ever documented the right way to deal with fixing bugs.
[04:37] <pochu> sfllaw: that's fine, but if you own a laptop, you can't do that ;-)
[04:37] <sfllaw> persia: Well, if it's just diff, then -pruN is what you want.
[04:37] <sfllaw> pochu: I own a laptop.
[04:38] <pochu> sfllaw: and do you leave your laptop on 24 hours a day 7 days a week?
[04:38] <sfllaw> pochu: No, I use GNU screen.
[04:38] <pochu> wow
[04:38] <pochu> sfllaw: I don't know that
[04:38] <pochu> what is it?
[04:38] <persia> sfllaw: That makes sense (the page was a dangling link earlier today).  How does it sound to set In-Process, self-assign, upload patch, set confirmed, assign to none, subscribe some team.  The only gap here is that the team that would turn these patches into debdiffs doesn't exist (or I don't know it).  ubuntu-universe-sponsors needs debdiffs, so there needs to be an intermediate level.
[04:38] <sfllaw> pochu: k5 for the win -> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935
[04:39] <pochu> sfllaw: i'm taking a look :D
[04:39] <sfllaw> persia: I'd probably do something like ask people to attach these patches to the bug.
[04:39] <sfllaw> persia: Then find a developer who can look at it.
[04:39] <sfllaw> persia: I haven't thought about it much though...
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80738 in gdm (main) "gdmsetup fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80738
[04:42] <persia> sfllaw: OK.  New revision: self assign in-progress, upload patch, unassign confirmed, ask a developer to review the patch.
[04:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80739 in python-bibtex (universe) "Package uninstallable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80739
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80740 in scribus (main) "crashes on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80740
[04:58] <pochu> sfllaw: I've looked that about screen, but you are running your laptop 24 hours, aren't you?
[04:58] <pochu> sfllaw: isn't that bad for a laptop?
[04:59] <persia> pochu: If you have a shell account on a server running 24 hours, you can run screen there, and attach/detach from local computers when you are present (of course Simon may not be doing this...)
[05:00] <pochu> oh, on a server!
[05:00] <pochu> now I understand
[05:00] <pochu> :D
[05:00] <pochu> it was just curiosity
[05:01] <sfllaw> pochu: That's exactly it.
[05:01] <persia> sfllaw: I'm to bed, but I've updated Bugs/HowToFix with notes on interacting with Malone.  Please modify further if you think it is appropriate.  There is some drafting happening from the MOTUs regarding guidance on how to generate debdiffs for submission, and I'll add a link to that once it is published.
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80742 in speedcrunch (main) "Speedcrunch crashes on Kubuntu after evaluation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80742
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80743 in Ubuntu "archive an archive error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80743
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80744 in gedit (main) "Gedit hungs after trying to save to another location" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80744
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80745 in gtk+2.0 (main) "accelerator keys gets 2 chars instead of one" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80745
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80746 in gnome-utils (main) "[baobab]  add options to analyse by filesystem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80746
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80747 in firefox (main) ""save as" dialog missing items" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80747
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80748 in Ubuntu "can't log into gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80748
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80749 in galago-gtk-python (universe) "unmet deps on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80749
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80750 in Ubuntu "Firefox suddenly crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80750
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80751 in totem (main) "Crash while playing DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80751
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80752 in smart (universe) "[Feisty]  Smart crashed on login to gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80752
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80753 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic doesn't assume root-priviledges when needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80753
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80754 in gaim (main) "Crash when stopping the display of chat rooms" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80754
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80755 in file-roller (main) "extracting doesn't work right" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80755
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80756 in network-manager (main) "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80756
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80757 in autofs (main) "missing dependency on nfs-common" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80757
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80758 in nautilus (main) "video thumbnails no longer work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80758
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80759 in alleyoop (universe) "alleyoop crashed on first run after install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80759
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73460 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Network interfaces keeps changing around..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73460
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80761 in Ubuntu "A problem occurred in a Python script: UnicodeDecodeError'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 51: ordinal not in range(128)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80761
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80762 in flumotion (universe) "crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80762
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80763 in xorg (main) "Feisty Herd 2 LiveCD crashes with 3dfx video card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80763
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80764 in compiz (universe) "can't return to normal window manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80764
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80765 in Ubuntu "6.10 Installer refuses due to xfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80765
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80766 in j2se1.4-amd64 (multiverse) "j2se1.4-amd64 jre crashes when running azureus 2.5.0.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80766
[08:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80767 in firefox (main) "epiphany (and firefox) crashes on a web page since last update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80767
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80768 in mozilla-stumbleupon (universe) "Broken Dependencies (thunderbird>2.0)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80768
[08:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80769 in thunar (main) "No progress indicator on long file operations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80769
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80770 in gajim (universe) "gajim reconnects when wifi returns even it it wasn't connected before" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80770
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80771 in gaim (main) "[German]  Error-message: "Kann nicht hinzufgen" when connecting to ICQ" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80771
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76354 in ffmpeg (universe) "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=risky should enable x264" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76354
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80772 in emacs21 (main) "Emacs crash quitting slime" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80772
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80773 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80773
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80774 in ipe (universe) "Depends on tetex explicitly, not installable with textlive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80774
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80775 in file-roller (main) "file-roller doesn't work with unace-nonfree" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80775
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80776 in gaim (main) "Gaim is not built with NetworkManager support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80776
[10:44] <pochu> #80776
[10:44] <pochu> bug #80776
[10:44] <tsmithe> bug 80776
[10:44] <pochu> tsmithe, the Bot isn't here
[10:44] <tsmithe> i think Ubugtu isn't here ;)
[10:44] <tsmithe> yeah
[10:44] <pochu> hey!
[10:44] <pochu> :D
[10:44] <tsmithe> :)
[10:44] <pochu> tsmithe, and where has gone the bot?
[10:45] <pochu> :S
[10:45] <pochu> ^_^
[10:45] <tsmithe> Seveas has taken it down for emergency tuning
[10:45] <pochu> ok
[10:45] <coNP> oh, poor Ubugtu
[10:45] <pochu> :(
[10:45] <pochu> then i'll go to launchpad
[10:45] <pochu> tsmithe: thanks
[10:45] <Seveas> root@binaries4all:~ # mdadm --detail /dev/md0 | grep -i rebuild
[10:45] <Seveas>  Rebuild Status : 65% complete
[10:46] <Seveas> takes a while...
[10:46] <coNP> Seveas: is it the computer that hosts Ubugtu?
[10:46] <Seveas> yes
[10:46] <tsmithe> md0?
[10:46] <Seveas> raid
[10:46] <tsmithe> ah
[10:47] <tsmithe> something go wrong?
[10:47] <Seveas> yup
[10:47] <Seveas> a stupid bug in planetplanet caused it to take 100% cpu
[10:47] <Seveas> a new planet process is start3ed every 20 minutes
[10:47] <pochu> lol
[10:48] <tsmithe> dear dear
[10:48] <Seveas> after a few hours, server was unreachable
[10:48] <Seveas> so it was powercycled, damaging the raid
[10:48] <coNP> no magic SysRq any more?
[10:48] <tsmithe> lucky you have raid, i guess
[10:48] <Seveas> root@binaries4all:~ # mdadm --detail /dev/md0 | grep -i rebuild
[10:48] <Seveas>  Rebuild Status : 71% complete
[10:48] <tsmithe> binaries4all :D
[10:48] <Seveas> coNP, it's a colo box...
[10:49] <Seveas> if you can't ssh into it, you powercycle
[10:49] <Seveas> nothing else one can do :)
[10:49] <coNP> no keyboard at all?
[10:49] <tsmithe> my server doesn't have a keyboard
[10:49] <coNP> or no one that can access it
[10:49] <Seveas> it's miles away from me....
[10:50] <Seveas> would be a hell of a keyboard wire...
[10:50] <coNP> but how do you powercycle
[10:50] <tsmithe> how do you powercycle it then?
[10:50] <coNP> :)
[10:50] <tsmithe> *high-five*!!
[10:50] <Seveas> log in to ups, tell ups to powercycle it
[10:50] <tsmithe> Seveas, aah
[10:50] <tsmithe> clever
[10:50] <coNP> okay you won :)
[10:51] <coNP> but was there no one near the machine?
[10:51] <Seveas> root@binaries4all:~ # mdadm --detail /dev/md0 | grep -i rebuild
[10:51] <Seveas>  Rebuild Status : 78% complete
[10:52] <Seveas> coNP, sure, but that costs 45
[10:52] <tsmithe> woah
[10:52] <coNP> I see
[10:52] <coNP> sorry for stupid questions :)
[10:52] <Seveas> and they also can only flick the power switch
[10:52] <Seveas> I'm not giving random people access to the machine....
[10:53] <Seveas> actually, reboot service now is free, old colo facility was expensive
[10:53] <Seveas> but logging itto the ups is just as free :)
[10:53] <Seveas> and much quicker
[10:53] <coNP> :)
[10:54] <tsmithe> what is colo?
[10:54] <Seveas> colocation
[10:54] <Seveas> means putting your server in someone elses rack
[10:55] <Seveas> so you don't need to rent a complete rack and deal with the data\ouse provider
[10:57] <Seveas> 88% now
[10:59] <tsmithe> Seveas, cool
[10:59] <tsmithe> are datahouse providers nasty to deal with?
[11:02] <Seveas> tsmithe, just expensive (no need to rent a complete rack for 1 server)
[11:02] <tsmithe> oh ok
[11:03] <tsmithe> i just have my server at home on the dsl line :P
[11:03] <tsmithe> but then i don't use any bandwidth
[11:03] <tsmithe> or load
[11:03] <pochu> Seveas: (just curiosity): does that server just host the irc bots, or what more?
[11:03] <Seveas> pochu, a lot more
[11:03] <tsmithe> my server: "load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00" :P
[11:03] <Seveas> all of *.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:03] <Seveas> and binaries4all (a rather large forum)
[11:04] <pochu> binaries4all?
[11:04] <Seveas> and mail for those things
[11:04] <coNP> pouchu: did you get into the bugsquad?
[11:04] <pochu> yes, yesterday night!
[11:04] <pochu> :D
[11:05] <Seveas>     Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
[11:05] <Seveas>        0       8       19        0      active sync   /dev/sdb3
[11:05] <Seveas>        1       8        3        1      active sync   /dev/sda3
[11:05] <Seveas> woohoo :)
[11:06] <pochu> Seveas: now bring Ubugtu to the life
[11:06] <pochu> :D
[11:06] <Seveas> pochu, it's coming to life...
[11:06] <Seveas> they join many channels
[11:06] <pochu> wei!
[11:07] <pochu> :D
[11:07] <pochu> bug 1
[11:07] <Seveas> so they'll be unresponsive for a few minutes (massive initial lag)
[11:07] <tsmithe> ah ok
[11:07] <pochu> ah ok
[11:07] <pochu> :D
[11:07] <pochu> lol
[11:07] <tsmithe> *high five*!!
[11:07] <tsmithe> again!
[11:07] <pochu> it's the second
[11:07] <Seveas> it takes them about 3 to 4 minutes to get completely lag free
[11:07] <pochu> ^_^
[11:08] <pochu> then we'll wait
[11:08] <coNP> Seveas: what, hard drives?
[11:08] <Seveas> no, the bots :)
[11:08] <coNP> okay :)
[11:08] <coNP> welcome back, Ubugtu :)
[11:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[11:09] <pochu> :D
[11:10] <tsmithe> ichthux??
[11:10] <pochu> it's on a lot of distros
[11:10] <pochu> i think
[11:10] <coNP> I guess, Ubugtu only searches for the first distribution, and i(chtux) < u(buntu)
[11:11] <pochu> but it is also at baltix
[11:11] <pochu> but baltix is upstream
[11:12] <pochu> sorry
[11:12] <pochu> baltix is distro
[11:12] <pochu> ichtus is upstream
[11:12] <pochu> ichthux
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80780 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "uses unusual units to report memory and disk sizes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80780
[11:16] <pochu> hey, should I close bug 80782?
[11:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80782 in beryl-settings "beryl crashes on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80782
[11:16] <pochu> beryl isn't in feisty yet, so it is upstream
[11:16] <Seveas> pochu, ichtix is a distro as well :)
[11:17] <pochu> Seveas: ok, but then why it says upstream?
[11:17] <pochu> Sorry for my English
[11:17] <pochu> :(
[11:17] <pochu> why does it say upstream?
[11:18] <Seveas> pochu, launchpad weirdness :)
[11:20] <pochu> Seveas: ok
[11:20] <pochu> Seveas: should I close bug 80782?
[11:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80782 in beryl-settings "beryl crashes on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80782
[11:20] <tsmithe> pochu, yeah close it
[11:20] <pochu>  beryl isn't in feisty yet, so it is upstream
[11:21] <tsmithe> i dealt with another the other day
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80782 in beryl-settings (universe) "beryl crashes on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80782
[11:21] <tsmithe> i just pointed the guy to the upstream tracker
[11:21] <pochu> ok
[11:21] <gnomefreak> pochu: yes it is
[11:21] <gnomefreak> beryl 1.4 is in feisty repos iirc
[11:22] <pochu> ah ok
[11:22] <pochu> that's new!
[11:22] <gnomefreak> 0.1.4~0beryl1 0
[11:22] <pochu> isn`t it?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> early this week maybe last week
[11:22] <ringdonut> Hello?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> hi
[11:23] <Seveas> !info beryl feisty
[11:23] <pochu> gnomefreak: and what about beryl-core?
[11:23] <ubotu> Package beryl does not exist in feisty
[11:23] <gnomefreak> pochu: all beryl packages are there
[11:23] <pochu> !info beryl-manager feisty
[11:23] <ubotu> beryl-manager: Tray application launcher tool for Beryl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 352 kB
[11:23] <pochu> !info beryl-core feisty
[11:23] <ubotu> Package beryl-core does not exist in feisty
[11:23] <pochu> 0.1.2
[11:23] <pochu> for manager
[11:23] <pochu> core isn't there
[11:24] <gnomefreak> 0.1.4~0beryl1 0 500 http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty/main Packages
[11:24] <gnomefreak> thats for beryl core
[11:24] <gnomefreak> pochu: apt-cache policy beryl-core
[11:24] <pochu> but that's upstream, isn't it?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> oh yes it is crap
[11:24] <pochu> emilio@kiko:~$ apt-cache policy beryl-core
[11:24] <pochu> beryl-core:
[11:24] <pochu>   Instalados: (ninguno)
[11:24] <pochu>   Candidato: (ninguno)
[11:24] <gnomefreak> that means its still ftb
[11:25] <pochu> ftb?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> fail to build
[11:25] <pochu> ah ok
[11:25] <gnomefreak> failing to build
[11:25] <pochu> then should i close the bug?
[11:25] <pochu> i'm confused!
[11:25] <pochu> :D
[11:25] <gnomefreak> pochu: not yet ill look at it this week
[11:25] <pochu> ok
[11:26] <pochu> do you want me to suscribe you?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> no i got it
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:26] <pochu> ok
[11:27] <pochu> and can you look at Bug 80778
[11:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80778 in compiz "compiz does not show window boards or the cube" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80778
[11:28] <gnomefreak> im betting the one i just looked at was beta1
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80786 in streamtuner (universe) "Streamtuner in need of defaults change" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80786
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80787 in openoffice.org (main) "Open office.org crashed when impress exported to ppt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80787
[11:30] <gnomefreak> pochu: that last bug you by chance?
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80785 in imgseek (universe) "pyqt error on mouse multiple selects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80785
[11:31] <pochu> gnomefreak: what?
[11:31] <jikanter> no, that's me
[11:31] <gnomefreak> jikanter: move the window away from the panels does it show boarders than
[11:31] <gnomefreak> jikanter: also why mention the cube in title but not in bug report
[11:32] <Jozo-> !info libpqxx feisty
[11:32] <ubotu> Package libpqxx does not exist in feisty
[11:32] <Jozo-> !info libpqxx-dev feisty
[11:32] <ubotu> libpqxx-dev: C++ library to connect to PostgreSQL (development files). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.8-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1430 kB, installed size 8992 kB
[11:32] <boggle> !info vlc
[11:32] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[11:33] <jikanter> gnomefreak: cube?
[11:33] <pochu> gnomefreak: i have also that bug with compiz, and with a smaller window I don't have also the borders
[11:33] <gnomefreak> jikanter: im talking about the compiz bug i was looking at
[11:34] <jikanter> oh, sorry
[11:34] <jikanter> the one came in just now was mine
[11:34] <gnomefreak> pochu: can you move the window away from panels does it than show the boarders
[11:34] <pochu> i'm going to see
[11:34] <gnomefreak> jikanter: the libpq one?
[11:34] <pochu> i can move it
[11:34] <pochu> can't move it
[11:34] <jikanter> no, 80785
[11:34] <pochu> i'm trying to move the panel
[11:34] <gnomefreak> pochu: press alt and use left mouse button to drag it
[11:35] <gnomefreak> the window not the panel
[11:35] <pochu> how can I move the window if I don't have borders?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> pochu: hold down the alt key and left click and drag the window to center of screen
[11:36] <pochu> ah ok!
[11:36] <gnomefreak> boarders?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> btw its been like that since 0.3.3
[11:37] <pochu> i'm opening compiz with desktop-effects
[11:37] <pochu> is that fine?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:37] <gnomefreak> bbs Dinner
[11:38] <pochu> gnomefreak: with compiz I can't move with alt+left click
[11:39] <davmor2> pochu are you on the open window?
[11:40] <pochu> open window?
[11:40] <pochu> emilio@kiko:~$ desktop-effects
[11:40] <pochu> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not supported by direct rendering context, trying indirect rendering context instead
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed.
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: Couldn't load plugin '--use-cow'
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: 'rotate' plugin must be loaded after 'cube' plugin
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: Can't activate 'rotate' plugin due to dependency problems
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: Failed to load slide: /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/ubuntu
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: Failed to load slide: /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/ubuntu.png
[11:40] <pochu> emilio@kiko:~$
[11:40] <pochu> that's the output
[11:40] <pochu> compiz.real: Can't activate 'rotate' plugin due to dependency problems
[11:41] <pochu> dependency problems?
[11:43] <davmor2> have you got compiz-gnome or gnome-compiz installed?
[11:45] <pochu> yes, i have compiz-gnome
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80788 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes with flashplayer sites" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80788
[11:45] <pochu> compiz-gnome   0.3.6-1ubuntu1
[11:46] <pochu> there is no border
[11:46] <pochu> if I move the panel to other side
[11:46] <pochu> I see the screensaver instead of the window border
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80789 in sbackup (universe) "sbackup crashes while converting old backup files to new format" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80789
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80790 in amarok (main) "amarock crashed while removing mp3 files from the playlist." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80790
[11:53] <pochu> so can I do something with the compiz bug?