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pochuhello everyone12:20
pochudo you know if we will see thunderbird 2.0 in feisty?12:24
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doko_Mithrandir: gcc-4.0: please no, we need it to build libgcc2 on hppa (but no need for it on our supported architectures)01:29
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Mezpitti; are ddebs up for feisty yet03:19
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crimsunMez: they've been up. http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs/03:48
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Jillianhello03:54
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_ion-lh05:12
_ionWhoops.05:12
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Seveasogra, hmm, we live in interesting times :)06:38
_ionYay, tracker is in feisty.06:39
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Mithrandirdoko_: ok, so I'll remove the binaries from i386, amd64, ppc, sparc?07:26
Seveas_ion, \o/07:27
Treenaksmorning07:28
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LaserJockanybody know if deps of a package getting a MIR have to have seperate MIRs?08:16
LaserJockand do B-Ds also have to be in Main?08:17
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MezB-Ds do LaserJock not too sure about the other Q08:25
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LaserJockMez: ok, that's what I was afraid of. But it makes sense ;-)08:27
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netstarwhat screen font does /etc/console-tools/config use, i like the new edgy font and am trying to set it up12:31
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gicmocompiz and metacity startup is now totally fucked up12:40
Mezgicmo, feisty ?12:41
gicmoyeah12:41
Mezgicmo /topic #ubuntu+!12:42
Mezgicmo /topic #ubuntu+1 *12:42
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gicmoMez: ?12:42
MezFeisty is NOT stable, and not even close to usable12:43
gicmoahh feisty is not stable ... ahh ...12:44
gicmo;-)12:44
Mezgicmo, :P12:44
gicmoforgive me my sarcasm ;-)12:45
gicmoMez, it was not even formulated as a complaint, a question or something like that, just as a expression of "shit, that is broken" ;-)12:46
Mezoh lol12:46
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netstarI'm sorry I've looked everywhere and no-one is willing to open up a notepad and look at the file /etc/console-tools/config and tell me the default SCREEN_FONT variable for edgy and +12:58
netstarplease can someone help me, i've googled my ass off12:58
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netstarI've also done the IRC thing12:59
netstarno joy, and so my last resort is developers12:59
geserit's set to lat0-sun16 here (feisty)01:01
netstarty01:01
affluxjep, here too.01:03
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netstarthank you very much01:04
doko_Mithrandir: yes please (gcc-4.0)01:06
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jsgotangcoman..did dapper had another re-spin after 6.06.1?01:21
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jsgotangcojeez none01:22
bhalejsgotangco: no.01:22
bhalejsgotangco: i am starting to get itchy for the next LTS, 2 years is a long time it turns out01:22
jsgotangcoi bought this cheap BenQ Turion64 x2 laptop and just installed 6.06.1 the updates went over 100MB+01:23
jsgotangcoso i was thinking it needs another re-spin in a few months before it reaches a year old01:23
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jwendelldoko_, around?01:47
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alefterishi everyone! how do i know which code branch is used on the current edgy packages, for example for this https://code.launchpad.net/edgy-gdm-themes/+branches?field.lifecycle=Any+Status&field.lifecycle-empty-marker=101:56
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mdkeNg: around by any chance?04:14
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Ngmdke: only slightly, sup?04:51
mdkeNg: those email aliases, how do you test them?04:51
mdkeNg: (and if you have the mysql database details to hand, can you mail em over? Otherwise, it's in rt, so no worries)04:52
Ngmdke: /usr/sbin/exim -bt pbarnabe@ubuntu-it.org    for example04:53
Ngthat will show you what exim reckons it will do with that address04:53
mdkeNg: oh, perfect. thanks.04:53
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TuxCrafterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2040153#post2040153 like to now your opinions :-D 05:29
Treenakspython :)05:30
TuxCrafterfor example if we start a new GNU GUI toolkit withs language should it be05:31
TreenaksTuxCrafter: you don't want a new GUI toolkit05:31
Treenaksreally05:31
TuxCrafterbindings  I meant05:31
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TuxCrafternew language bindings for gtk qt mfc .net 3.0 cocoa enz05:32
Treenaksthere _are_ good gtk.net-bindings05:32
Treenaksand good python bindings05:32
Treenaksand good java-bindings05:32
TuxCrafterbut you prefer python05:33
TuxCrafterhave you lookt at D05:33
Treenaksis it a compiled language? then it sucks ;)05:34
TuxCrafterarguments05:34
TuxCrafteri really like compiled languages05:34
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TreenaksTuxCrafter: faster to work with interpreted languages05:35
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TuxCrafterTreenask: so you believe the GNU/Linux kernel should be interpreted like python?05:35
TreenaksTuxCrafter: no. there are places where compiled languages should be used05:36
TuxCrafter:-D05:36
TreenaksBut coding in Perl/Python is _fast_ compared to C05:36
Treenaksno cruft..05:36
TuxCrafterthe learning curve is sorter05:37
TuxCrafterbut do you thing python is a good combination with hardware systems05:37
TreenaksTuxCrafter: only a bit :) 'I know Perl' vs 'I can write clean maintainable Perl'05:38
Treenaksbut this isn't the channel for this discussion05:38
TuxCrafter:-D05:38
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TuxCrafterjust curios doesn't seem to be anyone else tho05:38
Treenaksit's weekend05:39
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humboldtjust one little question: why not using evms for raid and lvm setup in ubuntu?07:14
humboldtis it not ready for production systems yet?07:14
Mithrandiryou're free to use it for raid and lvm if you want it.07:16
Mithrandirnot everybody likes it07:16
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xpander25008hello.07:17
xpander25008hello07:18
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Takuhey all 07:31
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TakuHey tell me all, I've a funny bug ( or misconfiguration ) : I've just installed Herd2 and I can get connected to wifi, but I can't go on any website except google ( but I can ping any websites )07:32
Takuhave you an idea ?07:33
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Treenakshm08:51
Treenaksfeisty + mac mini != booting08:51
Treenaks(ppc mac mini)08:51
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bettspWhat's the best way to contact the Ubuntu maintainer for Gaim (seb128)?09:13
bettspHe looks busy, and I want to clarify some stuff wrt NetworkManager support in Gaim (I wrote the patch for it)09:13
LaserJockbettsp: is there a bug report?09:14
LaserJockbettsp: you could also email him09:14
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bettspLaserJock: I tried to create a bug in Launchpad but it told me to use the upstream bug reporting09:15
LaserJockbettsp: you need to file the bug against Ubuntu, not the upstream product09:16
bettspAgainst Ubuntu Desktop?09:16
LaserJockLaunchpad differentiates between distros and products09:17
LaserJockso you can file a bug against gaim in Ubuntu09:18
LaserJockor you could file a bug against gaim the product09:18
LaserJockbut what it was telling you was that gaim the product doesn't use Launchpad for bug tracking09:18
bettspLaserJock: I tried to do the latter and it failed, looks I want the former09:18
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LaserJockhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug should work09:19
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bettspLaserJock: I saw that, thanks for the help09:21
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bettsphttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/8077609:23
UbugtuMalone bug 80776 in gaim "Gaim is not built with NetworkManager support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  09:23
bettspIs this adequate?09:23
LaserJockbettsp: looks like it, you said you had a patch?09:26
bettspLaserJock: It's already in Gaim 2.0 Beta 4, but you have to set configure to use it09:26
LaserJockbettsp: if you have a patch you can attach it to the bug report09:27
bettspBut I think some distro packagers think you have to pull in all of NetworkManager to enable it which isn't true (because it's D-Bus)09:27
bettspLaserJock: Do I just submit a patch against the files in the ./debian directory?09:28
LaserJockbettsp: that could work. whatever is appropriate. if you have added a changelog entry and everything use debdiff09:29
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okarataswaw09:41
okaratashttp://www.ubuntustudio.com/09:41
okaratasgood enter..09:41
_ionHow web 2.009:45
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