=== guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has left #ubuntu-motu ["adieu..."] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] hello [12:20] do you know if we will see thunderbird 2.0 in Feisty? [12:21] not a universe source package. [12:21] yes I know [12:21] it is in main [12:21] isn't it? [12:22] so where should I ask? [12:22] you've already joined the proper channel [12:22] (-devel) [12:23] crimsun: as the topic for -devel is not support i didn't want to ask there [12:23] :-) [12:24] crimsun: thanks === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-176-158.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] morning all [12:44] indeed === Nafallo sneaks up behind and hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK2 [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-093-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] Heya gang [01:38] hi. [01:39] Hi crimsun [01:40] I'll be reducing my Ubuntu involvement given job commitments in the coming months, but I feel confident with the teams in place that people will keep universe running smoothly. [01:40] Noooo [01:40] first LaserJock and now crimsun :-P [01:40] wow === bddebian runs away fast [01:41] I won't step down completely until there's a capable team triaging audio bugs. [01:41] Well that will be like never :-) [01:41] well there's bddebian to help out [01:42] so he can do everything you've been doing [01:42] Not me, I suck remember :-) [01:42] sweet [01:42] then stop sucking, *quickly* === bddebian starts blowing [01:43] yeah, not appropriate [01:43] Man, I haven't run xchat in GNU/Linux in ages [01:43] bddebian: oh! anyone willing to suck my dick is a good one :-) [01:43] uh.. === jdong|laptop realizes 3 hours into the project that he is two cables short of a wireless network [01:43] the irony.... [01:44] and Nafallo.... whoa.... [01:44] hihi [01:44] Nafallo: we use innuendos in release codenames and artwork to express those feelins === jdong|laptop is so losing karma for that :) [01:44] jdong|laptop: ROTFLMGAO ;-) === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong|laptop dist-upgradering to feisty on test box === bddebian is running feisty on this laptop === ajmitch is stepping away from this disturbing channel [01:48] Any of you ever heard of tfdocgen? === jdong|laptop is not as reckless as bddebian with his primary machine :) === jdong|laptop has messy network of chroots for his uglier setups [01:48] Oh this ain't my primary machine :) [01:48] bddebian: that's an ancient city ruins uncovered in Greece. it was on Dateline last week [01:49] heh [01:49] :) === rpereirab [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] Well this damn libticonv package does make docs and it tries to run tfdocgen :-( [01:50] http://svn.tilp.info/ [01:50] that's where the aforementioned script is. [01:51] lame [01:51] the wonderful smell of additional build-deps in the morning :) [01:52] Perhaps ajmitch would be up for a little REVU while he's away from the channel - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4127 [01:52] hehe === ScottK2 had to ask === Nafallo will be doing evil things now... [01:55] Do these evil things include REVUing packages? [01:56] Nafallo: I've done my share of evil for the day :) [01:56] have we firmed up our meeting time? [01:56] jdong|laptop: installed firstclass? ;-) [01:56] heh :) [01:57] Nafallo: no, but I am toying with ffmpeg-cvs :) [01:57] I win! [01:57] :-P [01:57] Nafallo: contest me and the patches will fly YOUR way :P [01:57] lol [01:58] haha [01:58] ajmitch: contentless ping? [01:58] USB atheros is still taboo, right? === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] LaserJock: similarly contentless & worthless pong [02:27] ajmitch: excellent thank you [02:30] heh [02:44] mmmm...UHF [02:44] stupid package === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] If there's a package that's about to enter the archive for the first time, but there's a community-provided package known to be in wide use with a wrongful higher version number, would you guys think it was alright if an epoch was set on this first official version in order to let the users of the community provided version upgrade smoothly? [03:31] Theoretically, of course.. :-) [03:34] no, I think that's bogus. [03:35] we're not responsible for screwed external versioning [03:35] and I keep telling the folks who build beryl packages to stop using that crackful versioning, but of course it's in one ear and out the other [03:35] bddebian: upload time? I'm dying of Altivec anxiety :D [03:36] (not really, but I'm about 5 minutes from opening up doom3 and wasting a good working night) [03:36] jdong: Sure since I seem to suck at getting this libticonv built :-( [03:39] crimsun: I see your point. However, setting the epoch wouldn't break anything, but it *would* fix the upgrades for quite a few users. [03:40] crimsun: It think that's also a valid point. [03:40] if maintaining compatibility with external repositories is a concern, then do what it takes to keep it [03:40] is there any trivial python or gdialog/zenity-like way of triggering libnotify popup balloons? [03:41] before you trigger those popups, talk to mpt and see if what you want to do is sane UI-wise. [03:41] crimsun: I happen to know that the external repository will seize to exist the very second this package enters the archive, so it's a one-off thing. [03:41] crimsun: it's more for personal use and not gonna see the public light of day [03:41] crimsun: I happen to know this as I'm the sucker who made the packages. :-) [03:42] poor sucker === ajmitch wonders if either beryl or compiz will get shipped on the cd - beryl is looking awfully unlikely, what a shame ;) [03:43] it almost explodes gracefully when I switch Modes :-) [03:44] jdong: It's uploading [03:44] such hype about it at UDS [03:44] & the concern over binary drivers [03:44] I actually have better experience with beryl than compiz. [03:45] bddebian: yay :) [03:49] jdong: Now, build libticonv for me :) === jdong is perfecting his backup scripts :D [03:51] backuppc ftw === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.145.173] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] So, who's gonna review MY new package? :) [04:13] upid? === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] Dunno yet but it's libticonv2 [04:18] do you want a review pass or compilation assistance? [04:20] review pass [04:20] It compiles [04:21] What's weird though is the orig source dir is libticonv-1.0.1 but it complained about SONAME until I made it libiconv2-foo [04:21] ok. COPYING needs to be updated for the FSF address [04:22] OK [04:23] heh [04:23] README has: [04:23] Copying is allowed under the terms of GNU General Public [04:23] License (LGPL). See the file COPYING for more details. [04:23] that's not what COPYING is [04:23] Damn, libparagui did the same shit to me :-( [04:23] so either that 'L' is a typo, or someone forgot to use the correct license [04:24] s/someone/upstream/ [04:27] docs/ , tests/ look good === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] the FSF addresses in the headers are still the old ones === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] src/ looks good (same caveat RE: old FSF addresses in source files) [04:29] [note that src/charset.h actually has the correct updated FSF address] [04:30] debian/changelog: "Intitial" -> "Initial" [04:31] debian/copyright says LGPL. [04:31] so something needs to be clarified w/ upstream === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["trombone"] [04:32] if it in fact is to be distributed under LGPL, you'd need to include a full copy of the LGPL [04:36] crimsun: If you are up for another package... http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4127 [04:36] I'm not finished. [04:38] Ah. Sorry. === ScottK goes back in his hole.. [04:39] (np, just wanted to let you know I'm not ignoring you) [04:43] Thanks. I appreciate not being ignored. If you get ambitious, I have a list... http://spf.pastecode.com/12063 - the one above is the first on the list. [04:43] ScottK: Are you going for developer? [04:43] crimsun: Well some of the files in debian/ still need work. The description isn't even the one for that package ;-P [04:44] bddebian: I presumed they were WIP === gpocentek [n=gauvain@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] somerville32: No. I just have some stuff I'm trying to get done. I need software packaged to do it. [04:45] I have to go AFK and deal with children and bed times... [04:48] bddebian: what do you plan to do about the binary package names? === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] 402 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded. [04:50] 406 not fully installed or removed. [04:50] Need to get 341MB of archives. [04:50] hmm [04:50] gpocentek, Did you package thunar-volman already? [04:50] i may have to have fun and remove everything [04:51] somerville32: yes, but I need to fi some copyright issues [04:51] fix* [04:51] gpocentek, ok. [04:51] crimsun: Probably gonna have to get upstream to straighten it out I suppose [04:51] gpocentek, Do you know C/C++? [04:53] somerville32: C, but I'm really far from being an expert [04:53] sfflaw rejected my SRU for dubious modifications [04:53] And I need a second opinion since I don't know C/C++ [04:53] the mousepad one? [04:54] Yes. [04:54] I already removed the comment style change [04:54] so I dunno what he means there [04:54] but the function rename might be a valid point [04:54] but the svn commit log doesn't mention anything else [04:57] I'll have a look this weekend [04:57] but apparently there's also an UI change in this patch === ScottK is back and the 3 year old that would not stop is in bed... === _jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] gpocentek, I can modify the patch as he suggests. [05:00] I just don't want to waste effort removing changes that are required. === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] somerville32: switching from a xfce file chooser to a gtk file chooser is a big change, I don't think that we need this to fix the bug [05:04] crimsun: Thanks btw [05:04] np [05:04] somerville32: the xfce filechooser works everywhere, so that's not the problem [05:06] bbl === FunnyHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] gpocentek, ok. I can fix that up then. [05:20] 0.2.2-2ubuntu5.1~proposed -> 0.2.2-2ubuntu5.1~proposed2 ? [05:30] bddebian: party hat! new x264 built successfully on all arches :) [05:33] Yea!!! [05:36] which goes to show... the best altivec is no altivec ;-) === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] jdong: :-) [05:39] bddebian: now the other patches shouldn't give you any grief. I expect mplayer to FTBFS but for an unrelated reason :) === jdong thinks red badges of courage shall be awarded to anyone who deals with media codecs? [05:40] agreed :) [05:40] 'evening everybody [05:42] Heya Toadstool [05:42] hey bddebian [05:45] anybody tried bzr-builddeb yet? [05:45] Whats the command to filter files out of a diff? [05:45] filterdiff [05:47] How intuitive :) [05:49] Who do I get it to remove two files? [05:49] pipe one to another! [05:51] lol [05:51] How do I get it to remove on file? :P [05:51] *one [05:54] somerville32: give it a regex that only matches one file? [05:55] -x '^filename$' should do it? === jdong is no regex guy by any measure [05:58] *sigh* I'm bored.... is Feisty released yet? [05:58] yes [05:59] yay! [05:59] I just *Herd* about it *2* days ago [05:59] lame [05:59] :) [05:59] Hurd 2 is out already? What? hell froze over twice already? [06:00] and LaserJock, I thought only I made lame herd/knot jokes? [06:04] Good night all. I've had enough fun for one day. [06:15] jdong: you certainly aren't the only one === Mez [n=Mez@synergy.sourceguru.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] hmm, anybody know vincent untz? [06:26] Name sounds familiar [06:26] A gnome developer? [06:26] yeah [06:27] I wondered if anybody knew where I can find him [06:27] His... website? [06:27] lol [06:28] vuntz.com [06:28] *.net [06:29] seems french, I might try gimpnet during regular French hours [06:29] I want a gnome bug fixed [06:30] and I feel like poking somebody about it :-) [06:30] He might be a good person to poke [06:30] I see his name in the changelogs all the time [06:31] yeah, it's a gnome-panel "issue" and he seems to be the guy for that [06:33] LaserJock: maybe vuntz on #u-devel ;) [06:34] oh wait, maybe I found the solution [06:35] well, it sort works === fowlduck [n=duck@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] oh geeze === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand_ [n=evand@acmns.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand_ [n=evand@acmns.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.186.70.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-007-051.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:50] kbuildsyscoa or whatever is the little hack that makes loading KDE apps fast, right? === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-160-112.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] hi Hobbsee [08:23] Amaranth: what are you referring to? [08:23] crack, utter crack :-) [08:23] crimsun: the little daemon or whatever that makes a KDE app load faster [08:23] maybe it's kde-init or something [08:24] hey LaserJock === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] Amaranth, kbuildsycoca rebuilds the KDE system cache [08:31] i'm not trying to use it, just an academic question === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] isnt that just prelink? [08:31] nah, there is some extra magic [08:32] Amaranth, kdeinit will load up dcop server etc etc [08:32] because when you login to a KDE session apps start fast, when you use GNOME they take forever [08:32] but if you start them again they're just as fast as under KDE [08:33] Amaranth, kdeinit is what you're looking for [08:33] alright [08:33] loads kio slaves, kded, scop server etc etc [08:33] s/scop/dcop/ [08:34] Amaranth, or just run KDE :D [08:34] :-" === luckyone [n=jordan@CPE-75-87-69-197.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] hello all - can anyone tell me if there is a bug associated with xsane for edgy? I don't know who to ask about this [08:37] sorry, not sure if this made it - can anyone tell me if there is a bug associated with xsane for edgy? I don't know who to ask about this [08:39] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bugs === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.61] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === afflux [i=discoflu@gateway/tor/x-dbebef99df7ad98a] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guibis [n=guibis@byl63.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === owh [n=onno@CPE-58-170-174-149.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] Hi folks, I posted an email to ubuntu-devel and after a week to ubuntu-devel-discuss. The message to ubuntu-devel was moderated after about 10 days and came through in a whole bunch of messages. [10:10] The message to ubuntu-devel-discuss was distributed, since it made it to the archives: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-January/000167.html but I have not received any replies. I'm not here to whinge about it, but can anyone point out why it was ignored? [10:11] Did I author a completely obtuse message, or was it something else? [10:11] I read it [10:11] Did I break any rules I should be aware of? [10:11] I don't think so [10:12] Try bringing it up in #ubuntu-devel during EU business hours [10:12] That's an excellent suggestion. [10:12] I'm glad that you read it, at least someone did :-) === owh felt a little unloved ;-) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@73.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] somerville32: When you read the message, did you think I should have put more time into it perhaps? [10:14] owh, I thought it should have gone to ubuntu-devel instead of -discuss [10:14] That's why I sent it there in the first place. [10:14] Try to find a core-dev to sponsor it [10:15] But it didn't get moderated, and after it did, it was buried. [10:15] somerville32: I thought that including sistpoty would have assisted. === owh has just been called to dinner. === somerville32 waves. [10:16] somerville32: Thank you for your suggestion on #ubuntu-devel. I will follow that up next week. [10:16] Awesome :) [10:16] Thanks for your work! [10:16] Pleasure. [10:16] Thanks === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] siretart, you here? === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] dumb question, when there's no ./configure in a source tarball but there is configure.in what do i run? I tried autoconf but it tripped up on some real basic macros === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] ademan: ./autogen.sh [11:08] :-/ doesnt have one [11:08] Although, autoconf ought to deal. [11:09] it errors like heck, config.guess and config.sub missing [11:09] config.guess and config.sub can be copied in [11:10] from any other source tarball? [11:10] From /usr/share/misc [11:10] Isn't there a script to autogenerate it? [11:10] ah, thanks [11:10] somerville32: nope [11:11] i guess cause it's cross platform [11:11] ifneq "$(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub)" "" [11:11] cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub [11:11] endif [11:11] ifneq "$(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess)" "" [11:11] cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess [11:11] endif [11:11] You can add that to your clean rule [11:11] after -$(MAKE) distclean [11:11] and before dh_clean [11:12] somerville32: honestly i didn't write the makefile [11:12] No [11:12] The debian rules file [11:12] :) [11:12] oh, haha, well i'm not to the point of packaging it yet, i gotta make sure that the person who submitted for revu didn't get it through (nearly a year ago) [11:14] now automake wants ./INSTALL, ugh, this is EXACLTY why i'm writing a new build system... [11:14] It doesn't belong in clean. The config{sub,guess} copy should be done in configure, and the files should be deleted in clean. Otherwise they end up in .diff.gz (and are not required). === did447 [n=didier@62.210.200.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-10-67.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Enchained [n=cyrille@88.166.169.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] _Enchained: hello [11:38] <_Enchained> hi [11:38] that 'h' in the dpkg output stands for a hardlink [11:39] <_Enchained> ok [11:39] <_Enchained> What should I do with that ? [11:39] <_Enchained> for the package [11:43] is it really needed that the binary is installed as OOodi and ooodi? [11:43] the easiest would be to install only ooodi [11:44] <_Enchained> yes it's what I think [11:45] <_Enchained> but it maybe could causes problems in execution [11:45] <_Enchained> ? === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:45] <_Enchained> I don't know... maybe if the program call OOodi... [11:45] <_Enchained> or something like that [11:46] <_Enchained> I think I'll rename OOodi binary in ooodi and delete the old oodi (link) [11:47] <_Enchained> Do you know how to fix the linda warning (with config.guess) ? [11:47] see the README for autotools-dev [11:49] <_Enchained> ok === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] is so that initrd-tools should not be merged? === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] palski: are the initrd-tools still in use? [11:55] well, they are not anymore in debian repos but in feisty repos they seems to be [11:56] and by debian repos I mean debian unstable repos =) === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] ask the kernel people if they have any objections and file a request for removal [12:04] bug #79168 [12:04] Malone bug 79168 in initrd-tools "initrd-tools: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79168 [12:06] oh, we have a "MOTU Merge Team"? === Neonightmare [n=neonight@204.116.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hagi [n=hagi@adsl-89-217-155-237.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] <_Enchained> geser: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4142 updated [12:20] <_Enchained> still the problem on cvs files [12:20] <_Enchained> I think the rest is ok. === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=Pochu@198.Red-83-32-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] when packaging a java class, do I need to create the -dev package? [12:52] ah, sry for stupid question :/ === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-227.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] problem: I wanna build a package using pbuilder with sun-java5-jdk in the dependencies. while setting up the build-dependendies it fails cause he "couldn't present the license" (we are in non-interactive mode of course). any way to avoid this? (is this even the right place to ask?) [01:20] afflux: do you really need the sun-java5-jdk package? doesn't it build with gcj or the other java compilers? [01:20] the original author of the code said it :) i gonna try. [01:21] can i compile a library with gcj and a program that depends on this library with the javac? === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] geser: is there any way to do it with the sun packages if I find no other solution? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] sorry, I don't know [01:30] afflux: pbuilder login --save-after-exec allows you to make manual changes, but I don't know if it works for the buildds. [01:31] afflux: just a side note: if your package build-depends on sun-java5-jdk it would have to go to multiverse [01:31] alright, i gonna look. [01:31] thank you two. [01:34] yeah, I have feared this. === Gervystar [n=alessand@host84-192-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@84.122-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios_ [n=cypher@201.89.247.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@unaffiliated/redguy] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] any reviewer can take a look at youtranslate please ? : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4119 === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-227.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gpocentek [n=gauvain@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tenshu [n=tenshu@sgc91-1-82-231-155-79.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === muzzol [n=muzzol@62-43-71-59.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@88.75.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=Pochu@198.Red-83-32-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-151.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] hi, i have a dumb question, where do i specify the package name if is diferent from source package? [04:10] im playing with control file [04:10] but im not sure === LuisBG is now known as luisbg [04:12] muzzol: I think you can do that with "dh_make -p [04:12] muzzol: Does your source package provide more than one binary package? If not, it is best to have the same name. If so, you will need to alter both control and rules. [04:12] well im not sure if i've explained correctly [04:12] i want to change the original name [04:13] if i have a source package name a.tgz [04:13] and want to generate a bin package named b.deb [04:13] where must i look? [04:14] muzzol: The easiest way is `tar xzf a.tgz; mv a b-x.y.z`, and build your package in b-x.y.z. [04:14] ah! ok, i though i had to edit control file [04:14] that's really easy [04:14] :) [04:16] muzzol: For single-binary packages, your source and binary package names should match, and the directory be called -. You will need to put b in your control file to generate b_x.y.z-r_.deb. [04:22] persia: Are you familiar with packaging/building C programs in the Ubuntu environment? I have a question if you are and have a moment... [04:22] ScottK: I'm more familiar with C than python or perl. What's the question? [04:23] Typing .... [04:24] I did a packaging fix and rebuilt libspf2. Here's the debdiff http://librarian.launchpad.net/5800752/Debdiff_rev1. The trick is that libspf2-1.2.5/src/libspf2/spf_lib_version got added somehow. === lastnode [n=lastnode@upstream/dev/lastnode] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@upstream/dev/lastnode] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:24] I guess the question is how do I avoid that? I think it's not necessary and I don't want to complicate review of the patch. [04:29] ScottK: If you really didn't add spf_lib_version.h, then it looks to me like the clean rule doesn't do all it might. Did you maybe build the package in the tree at least once prior to generating the final source version? [04:29] No. [04:30] I actually tried making a new directory, downloading the source package, and rebuilding an unmodified package. Got the same issue. [04:30] ScottK: Hrm. I'll take a closer look, and see if I can figure out what happened. [04:30] I'd appreciate it. === imbrandon yawns [04:31] persia: The other issue that I manually edited out of that particular debdiff is that there are a bunch of windows files in there and rebuilding the package causes all the line endings to get converted to Unix line endings... [04:31] This makes for a particularly ugly diff. === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] ScottK, make the post inst run unix2dos or dos2unix ( dependsing ont he need ) [04:32] simple hack to get arround that [04:33] ( of course that will add another build dep ) === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-87-169.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK just wanted to fix one little packaging bug, not redesign the package... === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-87-169.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] But, of course, I don't always get what I want. [04:35] ScottK: First pass runs with no diff (output of debuild -S -us -uc on unmodified source). [04:36] OK. Well then I think I understand at least a little better. === ScottK built a binary first to make sure it would install. [04:37] I think I should not do that. [04:38] Thanks for looking at it. I'll go try it again.... [04:40] ScottK: Yep. It's a bug in the clean rule. It's a good idea to verify uild first, but afterwards, delete the directory, and rerun dpkg-source -x, as otherwise these bugs can hit you. [04:41] Thanks again. I learn something new here every day. [04:42] persia: Should I write a bug for that (I'm not up to fixing myself - just learning)? [04:44] ScottK: It's probably not worth it. If it is a debian package, it is worth sending a debian bug (wishlist). If it is in an Ubuntu-only package, just fix it. To fix it, you only need to add the logic to delete the file either in the debian/rules clean rule, or in the upstream Makefile clean rule. If it's not obvious, leave it alone: I find bugs like this in about 60% of the packages I touch. === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] It's orphaned in Debian, so writing a Debian bug is of little use in the short term. Someone is planning on picking it up once they are a DD (hopefully later this year). Sounds like it's not worth messing with. [04:46] Appreciate the help. [04:46] ScottK: Probably not. As long as the package builds correctly after downloading, and anyone preparing an NMU or Ubuntu revision is careful to avoid extra material in the changelog, most people should be happy. === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] s/changelog/debdiff/ === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] Good morning Mez. === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] persia: That worked. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libspf2/+bug/79683 - now I've got a fix that's actually correct. [05:06] Malone bug 79683 in libspf2 "spfquery: conflict with libmail-spf-query-perl Debian bug#306875" [Unknown,Unknown] === jdong is pretty slow this morning.... [05:09] ScottK: Glad to hear it. I'll recommend that you change the bug status to "Confirmed", and the assignee to "Nobody", as the U-U-S member who uploads it will want to be assigned for tracking purposes, and may want to set in-progress if they have other changes to make to the package prior to upload. [05:09] hey jdong, know why udffsck isn't repairing your udf disc? [05:09] because it says int main(){return 0;} === KaSto [n=Herthane@p54BD3E95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] persia: Done. Thanks more. [05:10] ScottK: No worries. === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.186.70.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] ScottK: http://librarian.launchpad.net/5805334/corrected_debdiff does not apply against the latest Debian source [05:21] patching file debian/control [05:21] Hunk #2 FAILED at 38. [05:21] 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file debian/control.rej [05:22] Urgh. === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] It builds here in my Feisty chroot (I just went and built it again). I'll go look at it some more... [05:30] After building the binary I get a lintian error on the source package I didn't get before I built the binary: E: libspf2_1.2.5-4ubuntu1_source.changes: md5sum-mismatch-in-changes-file libspf2_1.2.5-4ubuntu1.dsc === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-145-177.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK will have to look at it later. Urgh. === TLE [n=kenneth@cpe.atm2-0-54382.0x50a1da32.kjnxx4.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] crimsun: I have the last guifications version which work with gaim 2.0.0beta6 packaged, can you upload it? or do you prefer to wait for debian (which has not even gaim 2.0.0beta6 yet) ? [05:38] debdiff. === fraco_ [n=fraco@213.219.163.102.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] crimsun: it's a new upstream release, no change except the changelog entry [05:41] crimsun: http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/toupload/ [05:45] Adri2000: tested? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] crimsun: yes, works [05:59] thanks crimsun [06:14] siretart, here? [06:14] hmm [06:14] seems to be /away [06:14] ah well === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] crimsun: can you sponsor all the debdiffs (except the first one; x264 already uploaded) on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x264/+bug/80387/comments/1? [06:29] Malone bug 80387 in x264 "Import 20070116 snapshot" [Undecided,In progress] [06:29] crimsun: they are to rebuild affected multiverse packages against new x264 [06:30] crimsun: and the ffmpeg one also closes the wishlist thing about DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=risky I was nagging you about last month :) === Tonio__ [n=tonio@243.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === titfortat [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco_ [n=fraco@213.219.161.187.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:52] in a source tarball what does the ./INSTALL file contain? [06:53] usually, instructions to install the program [06:54] so its just human readable stuff? [06:55] ie non-essential? automake is complaining about a lack of ./INSTALL file, can i just make an empty one? [06:55] yes === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] ademan: there is a generic INSTALL (with ./configure, make, ... instructions) file available somewhere [06:59] hrm ok, now i'm going to be packaging Code::Blocks in the near future assuming that the original package never made it through revu, but i wanted to try just building it first, there's no autogen.sh or anything, so i need to run autotools by hand, i did it in this order: aclocal, autoconf, automake, and autoconf is giving me trouble [07:06] actually, autoconf ran without even this time, automake, however, errored like heck === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@ip101047.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@158.59.225.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eXistenZ [n=amerdakk@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe` [n=bip@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has left #ubuntu-motu ["http://www.tuxmaniac.com] === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=Pochu@198.Red-83-32-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt_ [n=anant@62.114.91.44] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seeker` [n=Seeker@195-112-32-168.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-59.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === predius [n=predius@63.99.9.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu === predius [n=predius@63.99.9.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] jdong: that's not exactly a "no source change necessary" for avidemux in 80387 [08:47] since siretart's recently never here... does anyone here have any experience in using bzr whilst packaging? === TLE [n=kenneth@cpe.atm2-0-54382.0x50a1da32.kjnxx4.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] tsmithe: what do you need? [08:50] tsmithe: you guys should lookinto bzr-builddeb that just got into Feisty [08:50] reinhard blogged about it as well. [08:51] LaserJock, yeah [08:51] that's why i wanted siretart partly [08:51] I might try it out today [08:52]