[12:01] <zeer88> juano, thanks a lot :)
[12:01] <boss> ...
[12:01] <fractalgfx> Is it more/less/equally painfull to configure dual monitors with nvidia or ati cards?
[12:01] <juano> zeer88: this inly happens with rhythmbox?
[12:02] <juano> zeer88: only*
[12:02] <leobloo1> how can I manually change the repositories?=o/
[12:02] <eternaljoy> adaptr: what link?
[12:02] <adaptr> sigh....
[12:03] <aleksanteri> leobloo1: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:03] <zeer88> juano, on VLC and Beep it doesn't happen...
[12:03] <juano> zeer88: ok
[12:03] <leobloo1> thanks, I'll try to find some solution
[12:03] <adaptr> eternaljoy: I will repeat it; pay close attention to any flashing bits on your screen
[12:03] <adaptr> !wine | eternaljoy
[12:03] <ubotwo> eternaljoy: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:03] <juano> zeer88: this is another package: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[12:04] <zeer88> juano, the thing is, my music is on another hard drive (fat32)...and so far only rythmbox could build a library with that music...
[12:04] <juano> zeer88: search for that one
[12:04] <zeer88> juano, i had that installed and removed it searching for a solution...i don't think it will make a difference
[12:04] <zeer88> juano, i will try it anyway ;)
[12:04] <juano> zeer88: ahh... you mean your trying to build a library with mp3 from another hard drive?
[12:04] <Myrth> hi, i have installed nvidia-glx-legacy and 2d accelerator works perfectly but apps can't find GLX extention... in xorg.conf i have Load "glx"
[12:05] <juano> zeer88: and they dont play?
[12:05] <Myrth> tried `envy` but it didn't work
[12:05] <Baloogan> how do I make my computer not lock the screen when I close the lid of the laptop?
[12:05] <juano> zeer88: what happens when you open a local mp3 from your ubuntu partition? does it work?
[12:05] <Baloogan> ubuntu locks the screen when I close my laptop.
[12:05] <Baloogan> I don't want it to.
[12:05] <zeer88> juano, they play, but only with rythmbox...exaile or Listen, for example, don't build libraries on the other partition
[12:05] <Baloogan> I'd even like to just disable locking the screen entirely
[12:06] <zeer88> juano: the same happens, the sound is still bad...i tried it thinking the same thing =\
[12:06] <Bobbix> Hi help me please
[12:06] <Baloogan> what gets run to lockthe screen?
[12:06] <juano> zeer88: ok
[12:06] <Baloogan> Please someone tell me:(
[12:06] <eternaljoy> adaptr: what flashing bits?
[12:06] <Sick-Boy> anyone have a dvb-t with a Conexant CX23880 chip??? please...
[12:06] <eternaljoy> adaptr: I didnt see any flashing bits
[12:07] <Bobbix> my question: "if i installa a Wifi Pen with ndiswrapper" can i exclude hardware / drivers problems ?
[12:07] <adaptr> eternaljoy: you didn't see your name either ?
[12:07] <Bobbix> if the response is driver present / hardware present
[12:07] <Bobbix> ???
[12:07] <Gosha> !qemu
[12:07] <ubotwo> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[12:07] <eternaljoy> adaptr: nope!  in private was it?  cause I see nothing here
[12:07] <Morn\> Peeps, can I use the logo to advertise for Ubuntu?
[12:07] <Baloogan> Someone please tell me how to totally disable the screen getting locked in ubuntu
[12:07] <adaptr> eternaljoy: no, not in private
[12:07] <eternaljoy> adaptr: whats the link u trying to send me?
[12:08] <Bobbix> no response for me ?
[12:08] <rem|garvin> whats the best way to dual boot windows xp and ubuntu on my laptop?
[12:08] <mnoir> Morn\: that is more a legal than technical question - you're might want to research on the web site
[12:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rem|garvin about dualboot | rem|garvin, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:08] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[12:09] <LjL> !dualboot
[12:09] <ubotwo> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:09] <juano> zeer88: gstreamer0.8-mad ---> tried this? -mad ?
[12:09] <adaptr> eternaljoy: I did not *try* to - I did, twice
[12:09] <eternaljoy> adaptr: well I didnt see it
[12:09] <adaptr> 6 minutes ago and 11 minutes ago
[12:09] <eternaljoy> adaptr: maybe you writing wrong command
[12:09] <adaptr> eternaljoy: and that'
[12:09] <Serishema> i'm having trouble with glade on edgy (6.10)
[12:10] <nekr0z> Hello all! Is there any way to install Ubuntu on a 16 MB of RAM machine?
[12:10] <adaptr> and that's my fault.. how, exactly ?
[12:10] <Serishema> i've installed the glade package but glade still gives command not found, is there anything else i have to install?
[12:10] <adaptr> eternaljoy: please don't blabber
[12:10] <LjL> nekr0z: maybe the server edition, and yet i doubt it
[12:10] <rem|garvin> thanks
[12:10] <Textboo1> 16mb of RAM is quite a stretch
[12:10] <LjL> nekr0z: you're better of with a distribution specifically thought for very small systems
[12:10] <zeer88> juano, i'm installing that now
[12:11] <frootstripe> hi - i entered an about:config entry incorrectly (actually, i did it twice) I need to delete one entry, and modify another from being a string to being an integer
[12:11] <Bobbix> heeeeeeeeelp:
[12:11] <adaptr> nekr0z: it might *run*.. but you'll have to install it by hand
[12:11] <nekr0z> LjL: Damn... Just found an ancient piece of hardware, wanted to play around a bit... Not worth downloading another distro.
[12:11] <juano> zeer88: ok, try installing gstreamer stuff that have to do with mp3/ audio, etc.
[12:11] <eternaljoy> adaptr: blabber?
[12:11] <adaptr> nekr0z: better go for slackware with uclinux and uclibc I think...
[12:11] <zeer88> juano, if any other player allowed me to build libraries on the other partition, i'd be happy
[12:11] <zeer88> juano: the problem seems to be only rhythmbo
[12:11] <eternaljoy> adaptr: why are u poiting ppl away from ubuntu?
[12:11] <mnoir> nekr0z: or DSL
[12:12] <frootstripe> anybody know how to do this - the edit button's delete is shaded out
[12:12] <LjL> nekr0z, i've got Debian happily - well, slowly but happily - running on a 486, i think it's got 16 megs. yet i haven't upgraded it in quite a while, and of course it's textmode-only
[12:12] <nekr0z> adaptr: Thanks, but I think burning this Pentium I is a better idea :)))
[12:12] <juano> zeer88: you want to build a list with your mp3s from another partition?
[12:12] <adaptr> eternaljoy: yes, blabber - everybody in this channel could read the link I posted, and I prefixed your name so it would be highlighted for you; alas, that was not enough to attract your attention....
[12:12] <nekr0z> LjL: I don't need anything but a textmode there anyway...
[12:12] <Bobbix> nobody want to help me?
[12:12] <eternaljoy> anyone recommend installing the Newer versions of Wine?
[12:13] <eternaljoy> adaptr: ok np
[12:13] <adaptr> eternaljoy: and instead of scrolling back a few screens to locate said links, you suggest that I'm not doing it right
[12:13] <zeer88> juano, i want a player that automatically makes a library of music, like rythmbox :p
[12:13] <LjL> nekr0z: then either try ubuntu server, or give up, if you don't want another distro. however i suppose to try ubuntu server you'll have to download another cd anyway. you might be interested in this, though:
[12:13] <LjL> !minimal
[12:13] <ubotwo> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:13] <pppoe_dude> hi
[12:13] <eternaljoy> adaptr: ok sorry, but I didnt see it! not sure why
[12:13] <adaptr> eternaljoy: that's what I meant with "blabber"
[12:13] <eternaljoy> adaptr: ok
[12:13] <pppoe_dude> anyone here has a speedtouch 330 modem working on edgy?
[12:13] <juano> zeer88: try amarok
[12:13] <adaptr> eternaljoy: nor am I :)
[12:13] <Bobbix> ahhhh
[12:13] <Bobbix> ok
[12:13] <Bobbix> adios
[12:13] <zeer88> ok juano, i will ;)
[12:13] <bruce_> join gramps
[12:13] <eternaljoy> adaptr: is wine any good? I need to run a ms windows .exe phone program
[12:13] <Bobbix> no help for me? goood bye
[12:14] <LjL> eternaljoy: just try, it's not a huge download
[12:14] <nekr0z> LjL: Thanx. I have alternate anyway...
[12:14] <eternaljoy> adaptr: I had the bot on ignore! :P  i unignored it
[12:14] <LjL> nekr0z: that's good, then just give it a try
[12:14] <eternaljoy> adaptr: not sure why the bot was on my ignore hehe
[12:14] <pppoe_dude> im following a dapper howto and it doesn't work on edg6y
[12:14] <adaptr> eternaljoy: go try it out already ! unless you need to play games or depend on specific windows hardware interfacing, wine should pretty much work
[12:14] <eternaljoy> adaptr: ok cheers
[12:14] <eternaljoy> brb
[12:14] <pppoe_dude> it gives me a "firmware not found stage 1" error
[12:15] <pppoe_dude> but i didn install the firmware that i installed before
[12:15] <adaptr> eternaljoy: running office probably won't work, but normal, run-of-the-0mill networking tools and stuff should do fine
[12:15] <nekr0z> LjL: Already tried. It goes to kernel panic at some moment, whatever install option I choose.
[12:15] <pppoe_dude> s/didn/did
[12:16] <Intangir> anyone know where to find a native version of quake3 for linux?
[12:16] <LjL> nekr0z: hm, i bet that has little to do with the amount of memory. somehow, i think you should rather try a 2.4 kernel
[12:16] <LjL> nekr0z: as well as acpi=off and all that usual stuff, if you haven't already
[12:17] <AbeLincoln> Is is safe to uninstall ubuntu-minimal?
[12:17] <eternaljoy> adaptr: ok ty
[12:17] <SubMOA> whats force quit again?
[12:17] <eternaljoy> LjL: ok its instaling now
[12:18] <mc44> AbeLincoln: not if you want your system to remain working
[12:18] <nekr0z> LjL: You're right, I should have thought of it. Thanks, I'll give various options a try... As a matter of fact, kernel claims to have tried killing init.
[12:18] <eternaljoy> LjL: I have some money in a web phone service, but I cant use it unless I run their .exe file. so thats why I asked
[12:18] <AbeLincoln> Ok, I take that as a yes. Thanks!
[12:18] <LjL> eternaljoy: hm, which service is that?
[12:18] <LjL> nekr0z: well i don't know how well a 2.4 kernel would run with ubuntu, however
[12:19] <eternaljoy> AbeLincoln: Abe once said "I do not like that man, I shall have to get to know him better" :)
[12:19] <LjL> i'd still lean on using another distro
[12:19] <Jed> hi. im trying to install ubuntu but it keeps freezing up on me
[12:19] <eternaljoy> LjL: cellwireless.com
[12:19] <Jed> i've tried 6.06 PC, 6.06 PC64 and 6.10 and they all freeze =(
[12:19] <eternaljoy> LjL: heard of them?
[12:20] <LjL> eternaljoy: never. and for that matter, their site seems to require flash which i don't have ;)
[12:20] <nekr0z> LjL: I have a 5.10 cd somewhere... Was that 2.4 or 2.6 already?
[12:20] <eternaljoy> LjL: I have some credit left from them since I stoped building that business. its a pyramid scam
[12:20] <LjL> nekr0z: 2.6
[12:20] <eternaljoy> LjL: hehe ok ;)
[12:20] <LjL> nekr0z: get a debian businesscard if you can spare 30megs of bandwidth
[12:20] <eternaljoy> LjL: why do they still use flash some websites? dont they realise flash is dead? LOL
[12:20] <mc44> LjL: how do you watch youtube?!?!?! etc. :p
[12:20] <LjL> mc44: easy, i don't :)
[12:20] <Jed> anyone? :/
[12:20] <eternaljoy> mc44: with your eyes ;)
[12:21] <eternaljoy> LjL: LOL
[12:21] <mc44> LjL: missing a cultural revolution there :)
[12:21] <LjL> Jed: hm when does it freeze
[12:21] <eternaljoy> mc44: try easyubuntu
[12:21] <thug> hi
[12:21] <thug> do you guys know this Christian Ubuntu ? christianubuntu.com
[12:22] <LjL> mc44: i've had that feeling... however, i'm also convinced i would have quite missed it even if i had flash. and on the third hand, is that really a cultural revolution or more of a pointless fashionable thing that will vanish in a year
[12:22] <Jed> LjL: when its loading the install. all the progress bars go through, then a peach screen comes up and theres a grey line with lots of weird colors in the middle
[12:22] <LjL> or for that matter, is this ontopic. no. sssh :P
[12:22] <nekr0z> LjL: :( Anyway, I'll try to use what I have. Bandwith is unlimited, but the speed is 64 kbps, this is why I'm not so fond of downloading another distro. Anyway, this is all just for fun. I can't imagine the reason for using P-100/16MB...
[12:22] <BlueEagle> thug: Is that the one where they've removed all the bad language from the kernel like "spawn daemon", "fork child" and "kill parent"? :p
[12:22] <LjL> Jed: have you tried failsafe mode?
[12:23] <thug> BlueEagle they might yeah :D
[12:23] <bds> what is the best way to reconfigure xorg.conf if I installed a new nVidia card. I had a previous nVidia card so the drivers are already present
[12:23] <LjL> nekr0z, i don't have a name ready, but i'm sure there are some *very* small distributions around that you could use
[12:23] <z1adoz> any idea what this error means? : W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[12:23] <Jed> LjL: "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode" ?
[12:23] <LjL> nekr0z: of course most of them wouldn't quite have a huge repository of software
[12:23] <LjL> Jed: yes, i meant that
[12:23] <BlueEagle> bds: You need to rebuild the drivers because of the way they interface with the kernel methinks.
[12:23] <BlueEagle> bds: Other than that there should be no reason for reconfiguring Xorg as the drivers should be loaded once they have been rebuildt.
[12:23] <thug> how the fuck`s Christian ? ahh ?
[12:24] <SubMOA> holy crap i can't force quit this app.  I tried TOP but I cant find it, and I can't find a "force quit" button HELP!!
[12:24] <BlueEagle> !langauge
[12:24] <mc44> !ohmy | th
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | thug
[12:24] <ubotwo> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:24] <tortellini> have any of you heard of docker, because i am having a hard time installing it.
[12:24] <ubotwo> th: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:24] <ubotwo> thug: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:24] <mc44> hehe
[12:24] <thug> tonyyarusso aight
[12:24] <bds> BlueEagle: Makes sense, I am used to using the installer from nVidia, but not sure how to do it the "ubuntu way"
[12:24] <nekr0z> LjL: I beleive DSL or something like that would help. But I doubt it's worth the efoort :))))
[12:24] <DBO> ok I think hes got it =P
[12:25] <bds> BlueEagle: I tried dpkg-reconfigure but that started asking me for pci bus id's and such
[12:25] <bds> BlueEagle: I thought there has to be a better way?
[12:25] <BlueEagle> bds: sudo apt-get reinstall nvidia-kernel
[12:25] <BlueEagle> bds: iirc
[12:26] <Jed> LjL: same thing. it stops right after playing some audio clip
[12:26] <bds> BlueEagle: Worth a try I guess, thanks :)
[12:26] <n2diy> I have an SSH/NFS problem. I have  a text file on this box called Sig_file, when I right click on it, go to properties, I see it is associated with gedit. When I SSH in to this box, and try to open that file, it doesn't work, and no apps are associated with the file? If I rename the file, and add .txt to it, I can open it remotely. Any idea why the remote box isn't picking up the association?
[12:26] <tortellini> have any of you heard of docker, because i am having a hard time installing it.
[12:26] <MFen> is there a howto on building a compatible kernel in ubuntu? by "compatible" i mean.. i just want /usr/src/linux to contain something that third-party modules can compile against
[12:26] <CheshireViking> !firewall
[12:26] <ubotwo> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:26] <MFen> i don't even want to install this kernel, i just want to build the vmware tools
[12:27] <BlueEagle> !build-essential
[12:27] <ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:27] <graft> tortellini! you're delicious...
[12:27] <MFen> i did apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`, apt-get build-dep !$ already
[12:27] <MFen> and i'm running debuild in that dir
[12:27] <tortellini> graft, thank you
[12:27] <MFen> but it wants a version.h, and the build process isn't creating one :(
[12:27] <MFen> i.e. /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h
[12:28] <LjL> Jed: if you hit Ctrl+Alt+F2, do you get a console?
[12:28] <BlueEagle> mfen: Be aware that some applications _may_ require spesific features in the kernel or spesific kernel versions due to "smart programming"(tm) (read: hacks)
[12:28] <scifi> is there an easy webserver/mysql installation package for kubuntu?
[12:28] <scifi> or *ubuntu
[12:28] <juano> LjL: ctrl + alt + F1  -up to ->  F5 consoles
[12:28] <MFen> BlueEagle: yeah, i'm aware of that too, but i've been successful in the past with just changing the version string to match what's expected (i.e. uname -r)
[12:28] <MFen> BlueEagle: as long as /usr/src/linux is pretty close
[12:29] <MFen> BlueEagle: however, i want to know if there's an accepted and blessed way to do this up *right*
[12:29] <LjL> juano: i know that. it was in a context though.
[12:29] <MFen> it just seems ridiculous at this point, and i'm a person who's been building linux kernels since 1994
[12:29] <SubMOA> can you please tell me how to force quit an application in Ubuntu?
[12:29] <SubMOA> without using TOP
[12:29] <_Sean> !swap
[12:29] <ubotwo> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[12:29] <juano> LjL: oh.. sorry, thought you were asking :) good then
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> SubMOA: gnome-system-monitor?
[12:30] <BlueEagle> mfen: It's been my experience that any package that is not in the repository isn't "right" by default. If noone here knows you might have a go at the wmware support forums.
[12:30] <SubMOA> tonyyarusso, i'll give it a go
[12:30] <Jed> LjL: yes
[12:30] <n2diy> Curious, I'm sharing my home folder with NFS, but it is showing up in firestarter as a samba connection?
[12:30] <Jed> LjL: how do i go back to the UI?
[12:30] <caffiendo> How can I upload an entire directory and sub-directories from my PC to a Web-server via SSH, sCP, sFTP, or whatever command is needed..?.
[12:30] <MFen> BlueEagle: yeah.
[12:30] <LjL> Jed: ctrl+alt+F7, but i'm not sure that will help (but try)
[12:30] <SubMOA> thank you SOOO much tonyyarusso
[12:31] <Marupa> is there a tool that shows you packet data and/or realtime ethernet useage?  I want to see just how much of my internet is being used.
[12:31] <nekr0z> Jed: Alt+F7, actually.
[12:31] <LjL> nekr0z: same thing
[12:31] <Jed> it just froze again :)
[12:31] <MFen> i wonder if i just need linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:31] <gu014> is there ayway i can mount a windows hardrive with a ubuntu 6.10 live cd. i am trying to recover some data?
[12:31] <LjL> Jed: well i suggest you do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in the console that you have, and see if you can get X in a working state
[12:31] <graft> MFen: yeah that's what oyu want...
[12:31] <HymnToLife> !ntfs | gu014
[12:31] <ubotwo> gu014: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:32] <nekr0z> LjL: Hell no. Going from console back to UI Ctrl+Alt+F7 sometimes fails for me, while Alt+F7 works.
[12:32] <Jed> can i boot directly to the a prompt?
[12:32] <graft> MFen: for building drivers against the stock kernel?
[12:32] <MFen> graft: yah!
[12:32] <graft> MFen: yep, install linux-headers-whatever-the-funk
[12:32] <gu014> !ntfs
[12:32] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:32] <MFen> graft: awesome. ty
[12:32] <caffiendo> does anyone here even use the TERMINAL?
[12:32] <LjL> nekr0z: hm i see, weird, it always worked for me. i figured it would be easier to always give people the same keyboard schema instead of explaining why you need Ctrl in X and not in the console
[12:32] <juano__> Jed: you can select to boot into console at the  login window clicking session button
[12:33] <Jed> juano__: im still trying to install it :P
[12:33] <LjL> caffiendo: most of us, i guess
[12:33] <kiamo> heya
[12:33] <Marupa> I just started on linux, and I use it quite often.
[12:34] <nekr0z> LjL: I beleive it would be logical to work the same way in both directions. But, as I told, at least on my system it sometimes doesnt ((((
[12:34] <caffiendo> LjL: do you know how to copy recursively (sub-dir) from my PC to a web-server over ssh, scp of sftp?
[12:34] <graft> caffiendo: scp -r
[12:34] <SurfnKid> hi there
[12:34] <SurfnKid> is there a good browser for cli
[12:34] <Marupa> so are there any graphical tools for packet checking and ethernet usage?
[12:34] <SurfnKid> that can view images??
[12:34] <caffiendo> graft. I'll thry that I thought I had..
[12:34] <SurfnKid> so i can use cli the whole time instead of gdm
[12:34] <kiamo> is it normal when im extracting the stuff for a debootstrap enviroment for it to just finish up like this?
[12:34] <LjL> caffiendo: from "man scp", "-r      Recursively copy entire directories."
[12:34] <nekr0z> Jed: Not sure, but you can always use Ctrl+Alt+F(1-5) to get there.
[12:34] <kiamo> I: Extracting libgcc1...
[12:34] <kiamo> kiamo@Otsu:~$
[12:35] <MFen> graft: halle-frickin-llujah.  it built.  thanks :)
[12:35] <graft> MFen: cool beans
[12:35] <kiamo> im just not sure if its done it right...
[12:36] <timo> guys i have a question, how do i change the color of the "menu window"
[12:36] <timo> its at applications *
[12:36] <Jed> LjL: is there a way that i can install without the GUI?
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know how to do business card templates in OOo?
[12:37] <nekr0z> Jed: Sure. Sudo apt-get install <package>
[12:37] <LjL> Jed: yes, you can use the Alternate CD
[12:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Jed about alternate | Jed, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:37] <Jed> nekr0z: I dont have the OS on my hard drive yet. its freezing up when im installing the whole thing
[12:37] <nekr0z> Jed: "sudo" not "Sudo" of course.
[12:37] <steelb> Whenever I try to use "nvidia" in my xorg.conf and i get an error when trying to start up xserv the error is "Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)" and the FATAL error is "Error running install ocmmand for nvidia" how do i fix it?
[12:38] <nomego> how do I set the LC_TIME for a user 'the ubuntu way' ?
[12:38] <LjL> Jed: however, if the GUI doesn't work in the Desktop CD, chances are it won't work in your installation...
[12:38] <Jed> well, it kinda works
[12:38] <nekr0z> Jed: sorry, I missed it.
[12:38] <Jed> it draws the background and attemps to draw the bars on top/bottom, but it freezes up at some point
[12:39] <LjL> Jed: i don't know, i *could* tell you to try the alternate CD, but it might just end up in wasted time for you
[12:39] <Jed> :/
[12:39] <nekr0z> Jed: Give Alternate a try, anyway. Configuring xorg.conf manually is sometimes of great help.
[12:40] <graft> Jed: sure your video card is in good health?
[12:40] <Jed> graft: i havent had any problems with it running windows
[12:40] <caffiendo> graft: I get this error:  This account is restricted by rssh, Allowed commands: sftp
[12:40] <Jed> its a nvidia 7800 gt
[12:40] <lxuser> I have a problem with the nvidia driver
[12:40] <caffiendo> graft: is there another way to do it?
[12:40] <nekr0z> Jed: BTW, what kind of video card do you use?
[12:41] <Jed> nekr0z: its a nvidia 7800 gt
[12:41] <nekr0z> Jed: I'm not fast enough :)))
[12:41] <kiamo> !dapper
[12:41] <ubotwo> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[12:41] <n2diy_> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[12:41] <lxuser> in the nvdia forums said I have to uninstall the linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:42] <lxuser> Then I install the driver with no problem
[12:42] <nekr0z> Jed: Then I advise installing from Alternate CD and then play around with xorg.conf and video driver.
[12:42] <lxuser> but the X server crach
[12:42] <lxuser> crash
[12:42] <lxuser> the kernel I am using is home made
[12:43] <Jed> nekr0z: do you have any experience with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype ?
[12:43] <lxuser> someone can helpe with this
[12:43] <graft> caffiendo: use sftp?
[12:43] <nekr0z> Jed: No. I quit Windows long before this project started :)
[12:43] <adaptr> lxuser: if you are using a homegrown kernel, it's pretty much impossible to tell you what is wrong with it
[12:43] <lxuser> the only why I can start the X server is installing linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:43] <BenPA> hello all ... can anyone tell me how to  access smoothdock not ksmoothdock after you install it with the package manager? I tried help but it refers to ksmoothdock not smoothdock ... thanks
[12:44] <lxuser> what its happenning in here my friends
[12:44] <lxuser> have already googled
[12:44] <kingv> hey guys!
[12:44] <Kewlb> ugh, just installed ubuntu (Dapper) on my desktop and now just about nothing is working.. first step I guess is WLAN.. I have a D-Link Air DWL-520 what do I need to do to get it up and working?
[12:44] <caffiendo> graft: when I use sftp, I have to use "put -r"  correct?
[12:44] <Jed> nekr0z: lol. everyone has been telling me to try ubuntu and here i am *trying* to install it and its freezing :(
[12:44] <adaptr> lxuser: we'll need a *lot* more pertinent information to be of any help
[12:44] <wimpies> does anybody know if there is a 'standard' script that is run to make incremental backups of mysql ?
[12:44] <graft> caffiendo: try just using your scp line, but instead of typing 'scp', type 'sftp'
[12:45] <adaptr> Jed: hardware ?
[12:45] <caffiendo> graft sftp doesn't allow recursive function
[12:45] <kingv> does anyone know what plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox???
[12:45] <nekr0z> Jed: Well, your video card is almost still shining, and Linux tends to have problems with newest hardware... Mainly because the manufacturers like Windows more...
[12:46] <Jed> adaptr: AMD 3800+ X2, nvidia 7800 GT, 1gb ram
[12:46] <lxuser> ok
[12:46] <lxuser> adaptr
[12:46] <kingv> does anyone know what plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox???
[12:47] <BenPA> hello all ... can anyone tell me how to  access smoothdock not ksmoothdock after you install it with the package manager? I tried help but it refers to ksmoothdock not smoothdock ... thanks
[12:47] <adaptr> Jed: which install CD do you have ?
[12:47] <graft> caffiendo: hm. um, well if you were running KDE, i would suggest doing it via konqueror... otherwise i dunno... there's probably a gnome equivalent but i don't know it
[12:47] <nekr0z> Jed: Just don't give up. You'll get it working, I swear.
[12:47] <adaptr> caffiendo: what is wrong with using scp ?
[12:47] <caffiendo> graft: thanks for the help.  I'm new to linux and thought I was just over looking something.
[12:48] <Jed> adaptr: i've tried 6.06 PC, 6.06 PC-64 and 6.10 PC
[12:48] <caffiendo> adaptr: I deed to transfer a folder and subfolders to my webserver.
[12:48] <mario_> ciao
[12:48] <adaptr> Jed: PC ?
[12:48] <Jed> adaptr: they all freeze at the same point. right after the music clip plays
[12:48] <DARKGuy> Hey :) Is there a way I can download an *entire* website in Linux to keep a personal backup in case the site goes offline :( ?
[12:48] <Jed> adaptr: "Version 6.06 LTS for your PC"
[12:48] <Jed> DARKGuy: wget
[12:48] <gu014> !fuse
[12:48] <ubotwo> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:48] <caffiendo> adaptr: the server doesn't allow scp and sftp doesn't allow recursive copying
[12:48] <adaptr> Jed: music clip ?  I've never heard a music clip.. but is there a reason you;re not installing Edgy ?
[12:48] <kingv> does anyone know what plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox??? (channelchooser/similar sites)
[12:48] <idea> hello. i have a few issues after installing edgy on a dell inspiron.
[12:49] <lxuser> The kernel I am using is 2.16.18.1, remove the linux-restricted-modules-common, then kill X, after that I install de Nvidia driver with no problems, but when I want to modprobe nvidia driver said tha not found /sbin/lrm-video
[12:49] <DARKGuy> Jed: I've heard wget can do that, but do you know how to do it? o.o
[12:49] <Jed> adaptr: i've tried 6.10 and the same thing happened
[12:49] <lxuser> the only way I can load the nvidia driver is installing linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:49] <Jed> DARKGuy: i've never used it, sorry :(
[12:49] <adaptr> caffiendo: then use a decent ftp client, like gftp, that does the work for you... or use a file manager plugin, like there are for both nautilus and konqueror
[12:50] <nekr0z> Jed: Didn't you try to select a VGA option in the very beginning of installation?
[12:50] <DARKGuy> Jed: Aw, it's okay then :( thanks for the clue though, so I'm sure that what I heard wasn't just a rumor ^^
[12:50] <Jed> nekr0z: yes
[12:50] <lxuser> For what I read linux-restricted-modules-common has to be removed
[12:50] <idea> my issues are: 1) after dist-upgrade, i'm missing menu icons. 2) no sound. 3) no screensaver action (although can be previewed). 4) No ntfs partitions visible.
[12:50] <kingv> does anyone know what plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox??? (channelchooser/similar sites)
[12:50] <break_> are there any advantages of running edgy over dapper?
[12:51] <lxuser> anyway if linux-restricted-modules-common installed works but anyone can explain what is happening,
[12:51] <phixnay> hi I'm trying to build wine from source, but I get an error during configure saying C compiler cannot create executables. Do I have to be root or something?
[12:51] <lxuser> Running in Edgy
[12:51] <nekr0z> Jed: Try Alternate CD, install the system that can at least boot into the CLI, and then fix the driver and xorg.conf. This is what I would do...
[12:51] <graft> phixnay: did you install build-essential?
[12:51] <phixnay> yes
[12:52] <Jed> nekr0z: theres no non-UI installer on the normal CD?
[12:52] <caffiendo> adaptr:  thanks, I'll try that.  It needs to send 45,000 files, 845megs
[12:52] <lxuser> using a Fx5200 agp on Asus motherboar
[12:52] <nekr0z> Jed: I believe it is only available on Alternate :(((
[12:52] <timo> i want to customize the menu
[12:52] <adaptr> caffiendo: and te web server only supports ftp ?
[12:52] <Jed> nekr0z: *boots into windows to install linux* iiiiiiiiiiiiiirony :(
[12:53] <caffiendo> It supports ssh, and sftp but the sftp function doesn't support -r, the recursive function
[12:53] <BenPA> hello all ... can anyone tell me how to  access smoothdock not ksmoothdock after you install it with the package manager? I tried help but it refers to ksmoothdock not smoothdock ... thanks
[12:53] <Marupa> No graphical tools for packet checking and ethernet usage?
[12:53] <kingv> does anyone know what plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox??? (channelchooser/similar sites)
[12:55] <idea> now. sound in edgy. lost after dist-upgrade.. i'm on an inspiron 1100 here.. any ideas please?
[12:55] <graft> phixnay: apparently you can't build wine from source at all
[12:55] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[12:56] <graft> phixnay: apparently needs to be built with gcc-3.4, and you're probably going to have a tough time getting that working
[12:56] <qid> is wifi-radar still the recommended software to use to handle connecting to different wireless networks?
[12:57] <hanso> hey. when I have done a modprobe snd_seq (for instance) how do I reverse the action (remove it again)???
[12:57] <kingv> does anyone know what plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox??? (channelchooser/similar sites)
[12:57] <phixnay> graft: ah, that would be a problem... oh well i don't really need wine
[12:57] <graft> phixnay: err wait someone else claims you just have to install libc6-dev-i386
[12:57] <caffiendo> adaptr: gftp seems to be working.  I just wanted to try to use the terminal b/c no WinXP FTP progam has been even close to handeling the transfer..
[12:57] <graft> phixnay: what's wrong with wine in the repository?
[12:58] <phixnay> I can't connect to it for some reason
[12:58] <adaptr> caffiendo: I assume this is a web host ?
[12:58] <thug> anyone using horde ?
[12:58] <kingv> does anyone know what codecs/plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox??? (channelchooser/similar sites)
[12:58] <Sicaine> !dualhead
[12:59] <ubotwo> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead
[12:59] <graft> phixnay: uh? sounds like you have bigger problems :P
[12:59] <phixnay> graft: could not download all repository indexes
[12:59] <Sicaine> how can i activate my second monitor?
[12:59] <graft> phixnay: better fix that... which mirror are you using?
[12:59] <Sicaine> !xgl
[12:59] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:59] <graft> Sicaine: the power button!
[12:59] <phixnay> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:59] <kingv> does anyone know what codecs/plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox??? (channelchooser/similar sites)
[12:59] <whileimhere> can anyone tell me why VLC feezes on playback of a partial AVI rather than like MPEG s skipping the missing sections?
[12:59] <Sicaine> wuhu you are really funny graft! -_-
[12:59] <phixnay> graft, it might only be for i386
[12:59] <graft> phixnay: oh, custom wine repository?
[01:00] <graft> phixnay: i386 should work for lotsa stuff... but there's a wine built in the normal ubuntu mirror...
[01:00] <graft> phixnay: granted it's from 2004 (!), but...
[01:01] <idea> hmm.
[01:01] <phixnay> graft: I did a search for it and didn't see it in synaptic
[01:01] <graft> ... what, on dapper?
[01:01] <idea> so. anyone got any magic ideas for restoring sound in edgy?
[01:01] <kingv> does anyone know what codecs/plugins would i need to install so i can watch iptv with firefox??? (channelchooser/similar sites)
[01:02] <nekr0z> phixnay: Do you have Universe repos enabled?
[01:02] <idea> kingv: try Automatix for starters..
[01:02] <graft> idea: what error do you get?
[01:02] <charlie5> does anyone use usb hardrives with evms ?
[01:02] <adaptr> !w32codecs | kingv
[01:02] <ubotwo> kingv: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[01:02] <kingv> idea: i have it..
[01:02] <idea> graft: no errors.. sound appears to be playing, but isn't/
[01:02] <phixnay> nekr0z - universe and multiverse enabled. maybe I need 32 bit libraries or something
[01:02] <graft> idea: turn up the volume via alsamixer?
[01:03] <kingv> idea: awesome man! thanks a lot!
[01:03] <dromer> how can I automate the process of mounting/umounting usb-flash-drivs?
[01:03] <idea> graft: i *think* so.. the widget on my systray is max, and there was sound prior to dist-upgrade
[01:03] <PirateHead> I'm having trouble with my menu system
[01:03] <PirateHead> I want to rebuild the menus, but I can't figure out how all the XML files link up
[01:03] <PirateHead> can somebody help me?
[01:03] <graft> idea: run alsamixer in the console and turn up whatever you can
[01:03] <nekr0z> Not sure. Why don't you check the official Wine repos? They have a most recent version anyway...
[01:03] <idea> ok..
[01:04] <dbglt> hi
[01:04] <dbglt> is there a way to force an install of a package via apt?
[01:04] <jrib> PirateHead: right click on the ubuntu icon and click "edit menus"
[01:04] <Math^> hello, is there some alternative for macromedia flash? (editor)
[01:04] <dbglt> I want to force install amarok-xine, ignoring all dependencies (I've built amarok from source, already)
[01:04] <idea> hmm.. ok.. looks like we might be making progress here.. maybe..
[01:04] <PirateHead> jrib: I want to manually rebuild the menu system because the GUI stopped working
[01:05] <idea> graft: how do i toggle a source?
[01:05] <graft> idea: toggle? source?
[01:05] <docmur> hello all
[01:05] <PirateHead> jrib: I looked at the .menu files and they're a mess, so I'm guessing something went wrong.
[01:05] <verve> so anyone? do i need nvidia-kernel-source to compile my own kernel?
[01:05] <jrib> PirateHead: the menu won't really do anything for you without a gui though :/   Have you read the gnome learning docs?
[01:05] <idea> graft: yeah.. turn on/off..
[01:05] <graft> idea: m for mute, you mean?
[01:05] <PirateHead> jrib: Where are the gnome learning docs?
[01:05] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[01:05] <docmur> I need to know if the linux kernel has support for the M68DEMO908GB60, a 6808 microcontoller borad
[01:06] <idea> graft: thanks.. let's see..
[01:06] <graft> idea: play the 1812 overture
[01:06] <graft> idea: like in V for Vendetta
[01:06] <jrib> PirateHead: http://www.gnome.org/learn/
[01:06] <dat> any proftpd experts?  i'm having trouble configuring proftpd to get passive connections to work properly behind the nat.
[01:06] <caffiendo> what's the best way to compress directories and it's sub-d's to transfer and then unzip on a web-server?
[01:06] <nekr0z> phixnay: Not sure. Why don't you check the official Wine repos? They have a most recent version anyway...
[01:06] <graft> caffiendo: tar+gzip
[01:06] <dat> i can connect, but i can't get a directory listing
[01:06] <Math^> please is there any alternative for macromedia studio ???
[01:06] <jrib> PirateHead: what exactly is the problem with the gui?
[01:06] <PirateHead> jrib: I don't think what I want to do entials "general use" of GNOME
[01:07] <graft> caffiendo: tar -cvzf <whatever>.tar.gz <list of files>
[01:07] <phixnay> nekr0z - I thought that was what I was using. I got the source lines from winehq
[01:07] <jrib> PirateHead: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/2.14/menustructure-0.html
[01:07] <PirateHead> jrib: I want to reconfigure my menus, adding a program to them that currently isn't there
[01:07] <phixnay> !wine
[01:07] <ubotwo> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:07] <caffiendo> graft: thatnk, do you think that could be the best bet here since the sftp and scp don't work?
[01:07] <PirateHead> jrib: I also want to disable one of the submenus
[01:07] <idea> graft: thanks a lot. sound now working.. 1 down, 2 to go :)
[01:07] <PirateHead> jrib: I tried to do this using the GUI, but it doesn't function
[01:07] <graft> caffiendo: probably... why doesn't sftp work?
[01:07] <gma> PirateHead: you should have an app called Alacarte
[01:08] <jrib> PirateHead: what does it do?
[01:08] <gma> PirateHead: check in Accessories, or maybe in Preferences (might be called Menus or something these days)
[01:08] <gma> PirateHead: it can disable menu items
[01:08] <caffiendo> graft: it doesn't do files recursively..
[01:08] <PirateHead> gma: The GUI that handles that does not work. That is my problem.
[01:08] <nekr0z> dat: check whether it is reporting you IP to remote host correctly - it has to be not your internal IP. Not sure about where exactly this option was.
[01:08] <gma> PirateHead: oh. sorry, just joined
[01:08] <PirateHead> jrib: The GUI is somewhat nonresponsive. I can click on the boxes, but they do not check or uncheck.
[01:09] <idea> graft: is there a full gui version of the alsamixer?
[01:09] <graft> caffiendo: gftp/nautilus/konqueror?
[01:09] <vikal> #ubuntu.pl
[01:09] <PirateHead> jrib: I also cannot add items using the wizard.
[01:09] <jrib> PirateHead: have you check the permissions on the files in your $HOME?
[01:09] <caffiendo> graft: it's 45,000 files at 845 megs..
[01:09] <graft> idea: um... probably... i just use the KDE mixer applet
[01:09] <nekr0z> phixnay: Then I'm lost. Did I understand it right - you have a 64bit system?
[01:09] <caffiendo> gftp just froze even with 1,000 files
[01:09] <graft> caffiendo: yeah, so a tarball is your best bet, then
[01:09] <caffiendo> graft: thanks a lot!
[01:10] <idea> have to say, graft is the man in here.
[01:10] <adaptr> caffiendo: you're telling me you haven't done that yet ? that's.. insane-y
[01:10] <phixnay> nekr0z, graft, with the normal repositories, I see things like libwine but not wine. Yes, I have 64
[01:10] <PirateHead> jrib: The file permissions are all set to me.
[01:10] <graft> for the moment, anyway
[01:10] <idea> :)
[01:10] <adaptr> caffiendo: it's simple to script, too - with ftp or scp
[01:10] <caffiendo> adaptr: this is the first try..
[01:10] <idea> ok.. problem #2.
[01:10] <jrib> PirateHead: strange, then you should file a bug on alacarte.  What version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:11] <idea> after dist-upgrade, i no longer have icons on my main menus..
[01:11] <graft> but these are just panzy questions about sound and tar/gzip...
[01:11] <PirateHead> jrib: 6.10 Edgy, fully updated
[01:11] <idea> panzy to you, potential deal stoppers to the likes of me :)
[01:11] <PirateHead> jrib: I'm uncomfortable filing a bug because I've never used the bug tracker before, and because I don't know what might have caused the bug.
[01:11] <Jed> nekr0z: ok, im booting up the alternate cd now
[01:12] <PirateHead> jrib: My main concern is rebuilding my menu system so that it's usable once again
[01:12] <PirateHead> jrib: There are currently a bunch of duplicate entries and stuff
[01:12] <graft> idea: um, try installing gnome-icon-theme
[01:12] <adaptr> PirateHead: you're not required to know what *caused* it to file a bug; being able to reproduce it would be a big help, but even that isn't mandatory
[01:12] <nekr0z> Jed: Wish my connection was half that fast!
[01:12] <jrib> PirateHead: well you could always just delete/rename the local menu stuff you have in your $HOME and then use alacarte to rebuild it
[01:12] <idea> graft: ok. on it.
[01:12] <caffiendo> adaptr:graft: It's uploading now, lol. don't know why I didn't think of that earlier. not used to command line hosting..
[01:12] <riotkittie> ew. i had like triplicate menus under enlightenment once. i dont know what i did but it was horrible
[01:12] <PirateHead> jrib: how do I use alacarte to rebuild it?
[01:12] <jrib> PirateHead: also, have you tried running alacarte from the terminal to see if you get meaningful output when you try to perform actions that aren't working?
[01:12] <PirateHead> jrib: That's exactly what I want to do.
[01:13] <graft> caffiendo: here's a question for you - since you don't have shell access, how are you going to untar it on the other side?
[01:13] <caffiendo> adaptr: you mean to script the u/l of the tar, the extraction?
[01:13] <adaptr> PirateHead: just provide the info requested - OS versions, application versions, maybe hardware, and a *good* description of the problem
[01:13] <camerong> can anyone here help me set up flgrx for my monitor/graphics-card?
[01:13] <nekr0z> phixnay: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb should give you a hint about 64bit systems.
[01:13] <caffiendo> graft: I have shell
[01:13] <PirateHead> jrib: I've never used alacarte, per se.
[01:13] <adaptr> caffiendo: yes, with scp you could do that in one line
[01:13] <graft> caffiendo: you have shell, but scp is disabled? that's dumb
[01:13] <camerong> the problem is im still using m(v?)esa drivers even though i disabled them i thought!
[01:13] <jrib> PirateHead: alacarte is the program that starts when you "edit menus"
[01:13] <Jed> nekr0z: do i need network connectivity to install?
[01:13] <adaptr> caffiendo: then you also have SSH, because if you host files on a web server that allows telnet access - run away NOW
[01:13] <PirateHead> jrib: ah, I see. How do I tell that program to rebuild my menus?
[01:13] <graft> caffiendo: complain to your sysadmin
[01:14] <MindFreek> Does anyone know how to disconnect someone who is connect to your VNC... I just want to boot them when they are finished... in GNOME
[01:14] <nekr0z> Jed: You'd better have it, but it is not necessary.
[01:14] <jrib> PirateHead: I mean this:  you delete the customizations that are currently present, then you open alacarte and edit your menus manually
[01:14] <phixnay> nekr0z - that's what I'm using right now
[01:14] <phixnay> those repos don't work
[01:14] <camerong> anyone here know how to disable mesa/vesa?
[01:15] <adaptr> camerong: mesa and vesa are two very (and I do mean *very*) different things.. with one gigantic exception: They both suck :)
[01:15] <graft> mesa is the best we have, tho
[01:15] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[01:15] <camerong> adaptr: heh.. well im talking about .. let me look
[01:15] <adaptr> camerong: and you don't disable them - you *enable* something better
[01:15] <PirateHead> jrib: can I run "rm -r $HOME/.config/menus" ?
[01:15] <camerong> adaptr: a fglrxinfo returns that im using MESA
[01:15] <nekr0z> phixnay: They say on that page, that there's no such thing as 64bit packages for wine. You have to build it from source.
[01:15] <caffiendo> adapter:graft: there is some error that came up on scp..  it said some that it was only allowed on rssh?
[01:15] <PirateHead> jrib: will that screw things up, or is that the cleanup of customizations that I want to do?
[01:15] <camerong> adaptr: i have since enabled fglrx. but they are still being used
[01:15] <adaptr> camerong: yes, Mesa is a software OpenGL implementation
[01:15] <Jed> nekr0z: my school uses 802.1x and i dont think the installer supports it :/
[01:16] <jrib> PirateHead: I *think* all the menu stuff ends up in ~/.local/share/applications/ .  So try deleting/moving that and seeing if alacarte will then let you add stuff
[01:16] <adaptr> camerong: then you do not have it enabled
[01:16] <caffiendo> adapter:graft: who is a good web hosting company?  I'm using 1and1.com
[01:16] <camerong> adaptr: i attempted to then.. can u tell me how to enable them?
[01:16] <jrib> PirateHead: I would mv instead of rm so you can always undo it
[01:16] <graft> caffiendo: that's offtopic, you're on your own, pretty much
[01:16] <adaptr> caffiendo: anyone who offers full SSH/SCP access, cgi and php scripting, mysql databases, and low costs
[01:16] <nekr0z> Jed: You may be wrong... But anyway, you can set it up later, after you have all working.
[01:17] <adaptr> camerong: fglrx-config ? or something ? I try to stay away from ATI :)
[01:17] <graft> camerong: why are you trying to install fglrx?
[01:17] <mstevens> Anyone know about running ubuntu on thinkpads? I'm finding suspend is sometimes working and sometimes not
[01:17] <camerong> adaptr: ok i will try that command
[01:17] <adaptr> !thinkpad
[01:17] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[01:17] <caffiendo> Ok, well thanks alot!  much appreciated!
[01:17] <jrib> PirateHead: but that directory that you mentioned, ~/.config/menus/, looks like it is involved too
[01:17] <graft> camerong: if you ever do succeed in getting those libs installed, understand that it is a SERIOUS pain to undo the process
[01:17] <kingv> !codecs
[01:17] <camerong> graft: becuase my other alternative "radeon" is laggy and sucks and i cant do much with them
[01:17] <ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:17] <graft> camerong: radeon works great here - i'm running beryl with it
[01:18] <camerong> graft: i try playing games or even looking at gif animations and it lags
[01:18] <phixnay> nekro0z- that's what my original question was: hi I'm trying to build wine from source, but I get an error during configure saying C compiler cannot create executables. Do I have to be root or something?
[01:18] <mstevens> I found some relevant sounding stuff on thinkwiki but it doesn't seem to help
[01:18] <adaptr> graft: so... do you have beryl 0.2 yet ?
[01:18] <camerong> graft: its not working too well fo rme
[01:18] <PirateHead> jrib: I moved each to a "-buggy" version of their previous locations
[01:18] <camerong> graft: i mean radeon drivers, by the way
[01:18] <graft> adaptr: um... the beta, yeah
[01:18] <adaptr> phixnay: no, but you do need the C build environment
[01:18] <PirateHead> jrib: I gotta get off, hopefully this will all pan out. I'll remember the name alacarte, I'll put in a bug report pretty soon.
[01:18] <idea> hope i'm not going to hose my install here, graft.. lots of dependencies..
[01:18] <phixnay> I have build essential
[01:18] <PirateHead> thanks for help, jrib and gma
[01:18] <nekr0z> phixnay: Sorry, I was not following from the very beginning...
[01:18] <adaptr> graft: beta ? Ubuntu just asked me if I wanted 0.2.0
[01:19] <stia1> phixnay: and you have write privileges?
[01:19] <phixnay> yes
[01:19] <adaptr> phixnay: and you also have linux-headers installed ?
[01:19] <nekr0z> phixnay: And you have headers, right?
[01:19] <phixnay> let me check
[01:19] <graft> adaptr: uh? hrm... i'm using beryl's ubuntu archive... could they actually be behind ubuntu itself? weird
[01:19] <jrib> phixnay: is binutils installed?
[01:20] <adaptr> graft: I'm using deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[01:20] <phixnay> I have "linux-headers-2.6.17-10"
[01:20] <Trackilizer> hey everyone, i need your help
[01:20] <graft> adaptr: ah... subversion build is a bit too bleeding edge for me
[01:20] <adaptr> Trackilizer: you need *everyones* help ??!?
[01:21] <nekr0z> phixnay: And the same kernel version?
[01:21] <phixnay> and "linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[01:21] <phixnay> Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64"
[01:21] <graft> adaptr: i'll stick with my semi-stable beta :P
[01:21] <adaptr> graft: och.. whenb it dies, I just go back to metacity :)
[01:21] <idea> graft: looking ugly.. evolution, gnome applets.. nautilus all going down the pan :(
[01:21] <graft> idea: pan?
[01:21] <phixnay> how do I find the kernel version
[01:21] <graft> phixnay: uname -a
[01:21] <n2diy> phixnay: uname -a
[01:21] <SubMOA> I'm reading on the ALSA wiki that (due to my kernel number) I don't have to download dmix, however, does Ubuntu not have it? because I can't play multiple sound files
[01:21] <graft> jynx, n2diy
[01:21] <idea> graft: being removed as dependencies.. hope i'm not royally screwing up :(
[01:22] <adaptr> phixnay: uname -r
[01:22] <nekr0z> phixnay: Here can be the problem: generic headers are not for 64bit kernel, as far as I know.
[01:22] <Trackilizer> when i still had dapper using an USB stick was no problem, it was a matter of pluging it in and waiting for the window to show up, since upgrading to edgy nothing happpens when i pulg the stick in
[01:22] <idea> gnome-session, gnome-control center..
[01:22] <graft> idea: being removed? for installing gnone-icon-theme?
[01:22] <idea> all disappearing as we speak :((
[01:22] <Trackilizer> is this a known problem, and if yes, how does one fix it?
[01:22] <n2diy> graft: ok!?
[01:22] <idea> graft: um. removing gnome-icon-theme
[01:22] <phixnay> Linux PHIX-64bit-Ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:22] <humanspecies> later on
[01:22] <graft> idea: um, that's bad...
[01:22] <qid> I'm trying to follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo but network manager claims no network devices are found, even though the ipw2200 module is loaded and the regular networking window shows a wireless interface and both ipconfig and iwconfig show a wireless interface
[01:23] <nekr0z> phixnay: hmmm...
[01:23] <phixnay> so yes, same headers as kernel
[01:23] <idea> graft: i thought you said uninstall.. doh! can i fix this after it's done?
[01:23] <phixnay> I checked, and binutils are also installed
[01:23] <graft> idea: err... yeah, just install ubuntu-desktop again
[01:23] <idea> graft: the gnome-icon-theme was already installed
[01:23] <phixnay> i compiled a test.c and it worked
[01:23] <jrib> then your compiler can create executables :P
[01:24] <nekr0z> phixnay: Damn me if I see where the problem is.
[01:24] <idea> graft: k. thanks.
[01:24] <eyalw> quicktime with firefox, how?
[01:24] <adaptr> hot chicks with Ubuntu, when ?
[01:24] <phixnay> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:24] <leobloo1> how can I watch real player and windows media video streams on ubuntu?
[01:24] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[01:24] <jrib> phixnay: find out what the configure script is doing
[01:24] <jrib> !restricted | leobloo1
[01:24] <graft> eyalw: just use that mozilla-mplayer dealy
[01:24] <ubotwo> leobloo1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:24] <phixnay> all I did was type ./configure
[01:25] <nekr0z> Jed: Any luck by now?
[01:25] <jrib> phixnay: read the script and see what it does to conclude you can't create executables
[01:25] <adaptr> phixnay: what are you trying to build ? if it's a 32-bit app then you need 32-bit libraries, 32-bit DEV libraries, and 32-bit headers
[01:25] <GionnyBoss> anyone using BitTorrent here? I can't figure out why, with BitTorrent client included in Ubuntu Edgy installation, I can't download more than 1 torrent at a time... when I attempt to download the second one, an error message occours 'Couldn't listen on port (98, 'Already in use'). Can anybody help me? I guess that there should be a way to tell the program: "hey, you have to use a different port!" :P
[01:25] <graft> phixnay: yeah wine needs to be built 32-bit
[01:25] <Smirnov> how do you get different users logged in for different monitors?
[01:25] <adaptr> GionnyBoss: purrlease get a decent BT client :)
[01:25] <wastrel> hi, when I log out of gnome the screen goes black and i can't fix it except by rebooting the box.  using fglrx.  is there a way to fix this?
[01:25] <graft> GionnyBoss: yeah seriously
[01:26] <adaptr> Smirnov: different users on different monitors ? do they also have different keyboards and mice ?
[01:26] <GionnyBoss> which one do you suggest, guys?
[01:26] <MenZa> KTorrent is nice
[01:26] <MenZa> Azureus is a memory whore
[01:26] <adaptr> utorrent is king
[01:26] <MenZa> Torrent + wine = <3
[01:26] <phixnay> Great! What 32 libraries, dev libraries, and headers should I get?
[01:26] <GionnyBoss> I'm on Gnome... and I tryed Azureus but yeah, it's memory whore :P I will try utorrent
[01:26] <Smirnov> adaptr: yes
[01:26] <Smirnov> adaptr: yes to both actually
[01:27] <storeyzy_bio> i like azureus
[01:27] <Smirnov> adaptr: i want to use a keyboard/mouse for my right monitor, and synergy for my left monitor
[01:27] <adaptr> phixnay: what do you mean, "what libraries" ? all of them, of course - glibc, kernel, whatever else the app needs
[01:27] <GionnyBoss> I used uTorrent under Windows years ago... yeah it's good, but I don't like to use wine too much :P Ok guys, thanks for the help :)
[01:27] <gonzoism> i'm having a problem updating a computer with 'sudo update-manager'  it looks like its resolving the names to either localhost or 0.0.0.0  and it gets connection refused.  anyone know why, or how to fix it ?
[01:27] <Smirnov> adaptr: right now im using synergy for my left monitor and the mouse and keyboard is shared across both. BUT its running under the same user
[01:27] <gonzoism> i like azureus too
[01:27] <bradley> i just restarted my computer and i have no sound. how would i fix this?
[01:27] <adaptr> Smirnov: then define the second screen as a second screen in xorg, and log in specifically to that screen
[01:27] <storeyzy_bio> azureus can ban individual ip
[01:27] <qid> I just want to be able to connect to either WPA or WEP networks without having to edit configuration files and start or stop daemons each time; is this possible under ubuntu?
[01:27] <gonzoism> bradley  alsamixer on the command line
[01:27] <phixnay> I have to run - sorry we couldn't get this fixed
[01:28] <nekr0z> qid: check network-manager
[01:28] <idea> qid: use radar i think it's called.. others will know more.
[01:28] <Smirnov> adaptr: that sounds simple..uhh... are there any tuts?
[01:28] <nekr0z> qid: network-manager-gnome, to be exact.
[01:28] <bradley> gonzoism, i have gnome alsamixer but nothing necessary appears to be muted.
[01:28] <gonzoism> bradley  if you are able to unmute or turn it up, then alsactl -store  (or something similiar) you can check out the man page for alsactl for exact command,  'man alsactl'
[01:28] <Smirnov> adaptr: i have them defined as two screens already in ym xorg
[01:29] <qid> nekr0z: it won't detect my wireless interface, even though every other utility I've tried detects it fine
[01:29] <gonzoism> bradley is it a laptop ?
[01:29] <bradley> gonzoism, yep.
[01:29] <adaptr> Smirnov: so one is :0 and the other is :1 ?
[01:29] <gonzoism> bradley.  is f8 the speaker key ?
[01:29] <nekr0z> qid: did you clead the interfaces config file?
[01:30] <adaptr> Smirnov: then you have to set an xinit for the other user to use the second screen, so X starts on :1 instead of :0
[01:30] <Smirnov> adaptr: hmm... uhh... i dont see any :0 or :1
[01:30] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[01:30] <gonzoism> anyone know about my update problem ?  why it would be resolving the update addresses to localhost or 0.0.0.0 ?
[01:30] <adaptr> Smirnov: you really need to if you want to run two real separate sessions
[01:30] <bradley> gonzoism, f8 is my wireless key. Fn esc is mute/unmute and Fn 1 and 2 are volume.
[01:31] <Smirnov> adaptr: how would i do that
[01:31] <gonzoism> bradley  mine was unmuted and it took me forever to figure that one out.  holding down the Fn key + the speaker key
[01:31] <gonzoism> bradley did that work ?
[01:31] <Vluid> hi all, whats the differnece between tetex and texlive?
[01:31] <qid> nekr0z: what about the interfaces config file?
[01:32] <steel_lady> hi, somebody has experience with latex compiling programs here?
[01:32] <adaptr> Smirnov: man startx, man Xorg - you can start by logging a second user in on a console and running startx -display :1, or similar
[01:32] <Smirnov> adaptr: erm, :-\
[01:32] <jrib> !ask | steel_lady
[01:32] <ubotwo> steel_lady: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:32] <nekr0z> It should only contain lo: for local loopback, and be otherwise clean.
[01:34] <bradley> gonzoism, no, i haven't got it yet.
[01:34] <gonzoism> bradley  has it worked before ?
[01:35] <nekr0z> qid: /etc/network/interfaces should only define "lo" and not "eth0" or "eth1" or whaterver else.
[01:35] <gonzoism> bradley, is pcm unmuted ?  is it turned up all the way too ?
[01:35] <qid> nekr0z: I removed any lines talking about eth1, the wireless interface. no effect.
[01:35] <bradley> yeah. it usually works. like 99%  of the time
[01:35] <qid> network-manager still insists I have no network devices
[01:35] <Vluid> steel_lady:
[01:35] <gonzoism> bradley try unmuting everything and then turning everything all the way up.
[01:35] <Vluid> steel_lady: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308585&highlight=tetex+texlivehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308585&highlight=tetex+texlive
[01:36] <nekr0z> qid: did you restart the network-manager itself after removing all that devices?
[01:36] <bradley> gonzoism, yeah, i'll give that a try.
[01:36] <qid> nekr0z: by doing what? kill -HUP?
[01:36] <wastrel> When I log out of Gnome the screen turns black and I don't get back to the gdm login screen.  Using fglrx.  Is there a fix for this?
[01:36] <toulouse> beryl
[01:36] <toulouse> woops
[01:36] <arrenlex> wastrel: Does the same thing happen on a different driver?
[01:37] <steel_lady> Vluid, I am just trying to compile my file that compiled perfectly on my work machine but here it does not want to insert images saying they are too large but they are not
[01:37] <pluma> I'm getting a "shared object file not found" error when trying to run LiVES (although the file exists in /usr/lib). Wasn't there a tool you can use to find out where it is looking for the file?
[01:37] <wastrel> arrenlex:  i would have to log out to ttest that :[
[01:37] <nekr0z> qid: I usually did this by rebooting :) Don't know any other way, sorry.
[01:37] <mcquaid> how come network admin no longer requires sudo access?
[01:37] <mcquaid> it used to in dapper iirc
[01:37] <arrenlex> wastrel: Change the driver to "radeon" and then reboot, I guess.
[01:37] <gonzoism> bradley any luck ?
[01:38] <mcquaid> i don't like the idea that any user can muck with the network connections
[01:38] <arrenlex> wastrel: Or kill X with ctrlaltbksp
[01:38] <bradley> gonzoism, no i am going to restart and see if it magically fixes itself
[01:38] <bradley> gonzoism, thanks for the help.
[01:38] <Vluid> steel_lady: hm,  are you using texlive or tetex?
[01:38] <qid> ah, turning networking on and off (the little checkbox when you right-click) seems to have done the trick
[01:38] <nekr0z> qid: So here you go!
[01:39] <Jed> nekr0z: installed.. i can log in without problems but it freezes the same way when i log in
[01:39] <gonzoism> how can i find my upstream nameserver ?
[01:39] <steel_lady> Vluid I am using Kile to compile latex
[01:39] <Jed> nekr0z: how should i start figuring this out?
[01:39] <idea> graft: all reinstalled.. do i need to reboot x? or perhaps my icon theme for gnome could be changed?
[01:40] <pluma> An application complains about not finding a .so that is definitely installed. Any way to troubleshoot this?
[01:40] <steel_lady> Vluid, should I use another program, is it better?
[01:40] <StraightShooter> anyone else install the xorg-driver-fglrx package and end up with a whitewashed monitor output?
[01:40] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[01:40] <pluma> The version numbers are identical, so it's not just an outdated file problem
[01:41] <leobloo1> how can I install a .bin in ubuntu? i doubleclicked but noting happens
[01:41] <drstrangenorm> leoblool: perhaps you have to do a chmod +x <file> to make it executable
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> leobloo1: what is it?
[01:41] <nekr0z> Jed: Now you can log in to console (Ctrl+Alt+F1), and issue commands to the system. Try searching through ubuntuforums.org for your video card problems, and do what they say helps. I'll go and search for it myself too (after a cigarette).
[01:41] <leobloo1> realplayer10gold
[01:41] <thug> hmm weird i cannot sellect right click on a mp3 file properties > open with > i cannot select  anything from here any idea ?
[01:42] <Morn\> Tis working!
[01:42] <Morn\> http://www.microsoftsuckscock.com/
[01:42] <Jed> nekr0z: "(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Morn\
[01:42] <ubotwo> Morn\: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:42] <leobloo1> drstrange what is that?
[01:42] <thug> ls there any other way of making xmms default music player ?
[01:42] <drstrangenorm> leoblool: you can also do it by double clicking on the file and go to props, and click the allow executing file as program check box
[01:42] <idea> graft: might have located the issue: "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly."
[01:42] <Morn\> I am sorry ubotwo
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> leobloo1: Yeah, chmod, then ./filename.bin (while in the directory) will run it.  Although, in Dapper I'm pretty sure there's a repos script for it, if you happen to be on that.
[01:42] <StraightShooter> thug, can you not do it thru the properties dialog?
[01:43] <idea> graft: have metacity installed.. what next?
[01:43] <jrib> thug: what happens when you try to select it there?  Does nothing show up?
[01:43] <leobloo1> it doesn't open =o/ i already tried doubleclicking, nothing happens
[01:43] <drstrangenorm> leoblool: you might also want to go and install automatix, i think that program will handle installing it as well.
[01:43] <jrib> !realplayer | leobloo1
[01:43] <ubotwo> leobloo1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <thug> StraightShooter no i cannot select anything . i click on xmms to check that little box but it doesnt select it
[01:43] <leobloo1> today the pc is strange, it doesn't really work well and i dunno why! synaptic doesn't make me change the repos, dvd burner doesnt work and now   this
[01:43] <n2diy> ! automatix | drstrangenorm, leobloo1
[01:43] <ubotwo> drstrangenorm, leobloo1: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:43] <Vluid> steel_lady: kile is an editor. is is an ui for latex. tetex or texlive compiles the tex source.
[01:43] <thug> jrib doesnt check the little box when i click on it
[01:44] <jrib> thug: what if you try to give it a new command?
[01:44] <snide> guys im unable to download and install the wine package. i opened the synaptic and typed in wine but got none so i went to WINE HQ and got the apt get line .. "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main" added it to the repoisitiories. i reloaded and got an eeror msgs saying that i cannot dl it
[01:44] <nekr0z> Jed: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit the config file and turn DRI off. Then reboot and see.
[01:44] <jrib> leobloo1: in particular: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[01:44] <thug> jrib whit add then check xmms ?
[01:44] <snide> so any idea what to do to get the wine package?
[01:44] <arrenlex> !wine | snide
[01:44] <ubotwo> snide: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:44] <arrenlex> !info wine | snide
[01:44] <ubotwo> snide: wine - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library) - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[01:44] <thug> jrib same :(
[01:45] <snide> alright i should of done that lol
[01:45] <snide> ty
[01:45] <jrib> thug: find ~ ! -user $USER
[01:45] <nekr0z> Jed: Try looking this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337722&highlight=geforce+6800
[01:45] <steel_lady> vluid, how can I know which compiler do I have?
[01:45] <Vluid> steel_lady: that is also my question. what to use tetex or texlive. im using tetex, but its not longer maintained. so i think to switch to texlive. but if it does/is the same i see no use in switching.
[01:45] <thug> jrib can i msg you ?
[01:45] <arrenlex> snide: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/otherosfs/wine
[01:45] <prurigro> anyone know where mimetype definitions are kept in gnome ?
[01:45] <jrib> thug: it's easier for me if we just talk here
[01:45] <green-_> ls
[01:45] <thug> aight
[01:45] <drstrangenorm> ive been using ubuntu for quite some time on my laptop.  it runs fantastic on that, but i put it on my desktop pc (amd barton core athlon, ati 9800 pro video card) and xorg takes up 100% cpu when i move windows or do anything, its horrendous.  are there known issues with nforce2 asus boards and ubuntu?
[01:46] <Vluid> steel_lady: synaptic -> kile dependencies.
[01:46] <thug> wanted to past the results ;)
[01:46] <thug> !pastebin
[01:46] <jrib> thug: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:46] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:46] <green-_> woops ... anyone know what repos contains the flashplugin ..? can't seem to add the right source
[01:46] <leobloo1> so what can i do? i want some stream player  and none of those i have can work!=o/ I want to watch the streams on wwtv.org
[01:46] <jrib> green-_: multiverse
[01:46] <Trojaneyez> just manually install it
[01:46] <thug> jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2203/
[01:47] <Judicata> green-_: for firefox?
[01:47] <jrib> thug: do you tend to run a lot of gui programs with sudo?
[01:47] <Jed> is there a 'stopx' command?
[01:47] <thug> jrib no not really why ?
[01:47] <jrib> Jed: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:47] <prurigro> like, is there a place where I can set what .zip would be defined as ?
[01:47] <prurigro> in nautilus of course
[01:48] <steel_lady> vluid should I write somewhere kile dependencies or what?
[01:48] <Judicata> prurigro: what do you mean? do you mean what app will open it by default?
[01:48] <jrib> thug: because you don't have permissions on a lot of the stuff in your home.  What does this say:  ls -ld /home/thug/.{kde,qt,gnome,local}
[01:48] <prurigro> Judicata: not what app, just what icon and mime show up as
[01:48] <chiarato> I need help with my wireless network adaptor I can't go online?
[01:48] <Judicata> prurigro: oh, i see.
[01:48] <thug> jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2204/
[01:49] <Hansin321> Ruby question: " I want to install Gems on Ubuntu.  Ignoring all the packaging chatter I see about doing this, doesn't Gems install itself "self-contained" in whatever directory you install it in?  If so, why wouldn't I just download and install Gems into desired directory and if I need to get rid of it, just copy out data a delete directory?  Or am I being a little simplistic in my understanding?"
[01:49] <prurigro> Judicata: java took over my mimes, now .zip and .rar show up as compressed java archives and have the java icon :(
[01:49] <green-_> Trojaneyez: manual installer doesn't work on AMD64
[01:49] <green-_> Judicata: yes
[01:49] <jrib> thug: sudo chown -R $USER: ~        this will restore ownership of all of the files in your $HOME to your user
[01:49] <idea> hmm.. seems gconf incorrectly configured is an issue others have encountered.
[01:49] <Judicata> prurigro: that's a bummer. I'm really not familiar with that issue.
[01:49] <green-_> jrib: there are many multiverse repositories... which one?
[01:49] <Trojaneyez> well I meant placing the flashlib.so or what ever the full name is, in the the global foobar/firefox/plugin
[01:50] <jrib> green-_: which ones do you have to choose from?
[01:50] <prurigro> Judicata: ah well, no worries- thx for trying :)
[01:50] <thug> jrib thank you, works :)
[01:50] <thug> jrib how did it got change ?
[01:50] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[01:50] <Judicata> green-_:  I'd downoad it manually, or (if you're brave and you want to go against the official recommendations you can install automatix).
[01:50] <green-> oh was in here twice :)
[01:50] <Judicata> prurigro: I'll look into it, in the meanwhile, I hope someone else can help you.
[01:51] <jrib> thug: usually happens if you use sudo on a gui app, you should use gksudo (in gnome) or kdsu (in kde) for gui apps.  And that should be rare too
[01:51] <chiarato> the internet was fine than i had to reinstall ubuntu now I can't get online not even to update my system I have dual boot ubuntu and windows xp on the xp works fine but i can't get it working on my linux!
[01:51] <green-> Judicata: yeah i'm trying to avoid automatix :)
[01:51] <thug> jrib ok thanks
[01:51] <Vluid> steel_lady: no. look in synaptic what dependencies are shown for kile. there should be also the latex-version/disrtibution youre using.
[01:51] <green-> jrib: umm.. i have a list of like 20 that have "multiverse" after them
[01:51] <prurigro> Judicata: no worries- I'll try to figure it out on my own, I'm sure you have your own things to attend to :) thx tho
[01:52] <green-> jrib: general, backports, plf, canonical, etc
[01:52] <jrib> green-: can you pastebin that?  flashplugin-nonfree is in edgy multiverse and edgy-backports multiverse if you want flash9
[01:52] <chiarato> the internet was fine than i had to reinstall ubuntu now I can't get online not even to update my system I have dual boot ubuntu and windows xp on the xp works fine but i can't get it working on my linux! my wireless network adaptor is usb "linksys"
[01:52] <Vluid> ive read some forum posts and i thing ill give texlive a try. it seems to be more detailed.
[01:52] <snook353> how do i edit the xorg.conf file in the terminal, since x11 won't start?
[01:53] <nekr0z> snook353: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:53] <jrib> snook353: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:53] <Rprp>   BugServ ChanServ Eggdrop Rprp Whoopie
[01:53] <michael20la> quick ? looking for an irc client that can connect to multiple servers @ the same time. (ie mirc)
[01:53] <Judicata> green-:  go to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash, and get the tar file. Can you get it from there?
[01:53] <steel_lady> Vluid it mentions tetexlive and teteh. but I think the compiler is tetexlive
[01:54] <Aggrav8d> hello, hello!
[01:54] <green-> jrib: ah dont have backports in, let me add that
[01:54] <Aggrav8d> is there a apache mod_cache for ubuntu?
[01:54] <Judicata_> green-: after you download it, unpack it (tar zxvf filename.gz), and run ./flashplayer-installer in the director it creates. restart mozilla and you should be all set.
[01:56] <flk> I cant seem to able to get my system to boot up after loading grub and it starts going through the steps on mounting the hdd it freezes
[01:56] <flk> when i boot into safemode it freezes after the following msg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2205/
[01:56] <flk> anyone have experience with similar error?
[01:57] <Aggrav8d> is there a apache mod_cache for ubuntu?  I can't figure out how to install/config it.
[01:57] <Vluid> steel_lady: i think by default it uses tetex (it uses either tetex or texlive). try using texlive. i think ill change too. but i do not know whyy it does not compile cleanly (your first question). look in the tex-logs.
[01:57] <jrib> Aggrav8d: sudo a2enmod
[01:58] <kiamo> sup people
[01:58] <Vluid> michael20la: irssi - great
[01:58] <kiamo> please can someone help me set up a 32bit enviroment with debootstrap
[01:58] <kiamo> i cant seem to get it to work :(
[01:58] <Aggrav8d> jrib - thanks
[01:59] <michael20la> Vluid: not gui thou
[01:59] <openedu> hi :).  The disk drive with my /var/ directory has been corrupted.  What should I do to generate a new /var directory?
[01:59] <elg> hello, I just did a new kernel 2.6.19 on my edgy box. make-kpkg --initrd kernel_img
[01:59] <steel_lady> Vluid how can I switch to use tetexlive?
[01:59] <elg> installed and rebooted. the splash screen just stops with the progress bar all left
[01:59] <elg> in recovery mode, it stops after usb hid. just stops
[02:00] <elg> keyboard is still responsive. I can ctrl-alt-del to reboot, hitting enter puts blank lines
[02:00] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[02:00] <elg> the config is the same, with defaults for the new options
[02:01] <Aggrav8d> jrib - disk_cache, file_cache, mem_cache... I don't know which one is right for me :T
[02:01] <jrib> Aggrav8d: I have just "cache" too I have no idea what any of them are though
[02:02] <Vluid> steel_lady: that is what i also want to figure out. it seems (as i said) that texlive has more features since it is supported. but it is quite new so most of the apps depend on the older tetex.
[02:02] <Vluid> michael20la: i dont get you
[02:02] <green-> nope, didn't work to add backports either
[02:02] <wastrel> hi
[02:02] <jrib> green-: pastebin your current sources.list
[02:04] <thug> green- a good place to start ? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[02:04] <flk> guys i keep getting '/sbin/init: error 20....kernel panic not syncing attempted to kill init' when booting up is there a way to solve this problem? i have done search on the ubuntu forum with no luck
[02:04] <green-> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206/
[02:05] <green-> thug: that's actually what i was following, but unless i missed it it didn't say specifically what repos the flash plugin was in
[02:05] <jrib> green-: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:05] <superkirbyartist> What ports must I use for USB joystick?
[02:05] <green-> jrib: of course, and the package isn't available...
[02:05] <Jed> ok... my computer freezes after i log in with gdm... no errors in Xorg.0.log... where else can i look?
[02:05] <jrib> green-: what architecture are you using?
[02:06] <phixnay> graft, nekr0z, I found a guide here http://www.ilfilosofo.com/blog/2007/01/12/installing-wine-on-ubuntu-edgy-610-64-bit/ but it involves overwriting symbolic links, and I want to know if I can do it in a way where I can undo it if it doesn't work
[02:06] <green-> AMD64
[02:06] <thug> green- well you can add the whole repos from there it wont warm
[02:06] <jrib> green-: there is no flash for amd64, there are some workarounds:
[02:06] <jrib> !flash | green-
[02:06] <ubotwo> green-: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:06] <thug> harm :)
[02:06] <nekr0z> Jed: Try different drivers. There are at least 2 options for nvidia.
[02:06] <phixnay> FirefoxAMD64FlashJava https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:07] <Jed> nekr0z: how/where?
[02:07] <superkirbyartist> Which port do we use for joysticks?
[02:07] <green-> jrib: so GNU gnash is my only option?
[02:07] <green-> wow, can adobe possibly do anything more to annoy me?
[02:08] <jrib> green-: or a chroot
[02:08] <kubuntu> hi everybody. i have been looking online for a simple, straightforward answer as to what the terminal window command is to chmod a folder to 777 but all i find is how to chmod using ftp. well, the dir in question is on my local machine so no ftp. can someone please help me know what the right syntax is to chmod a directory to be 777 is? thanks in advance.
[02:08] <green-> bad enough they keep me from running linux full time because of their refusal to make photoshop/illustrator/etc for linux ... now this.
[02:08] <green-> any info on how well the gnash player works?
[02:08] <superkirbyartist> 777's against my religion.
[02:08] <kvicksilv3r> kubuntu: man chmod    --   should help you out.
[02:09] <jrib> green-: I haven't tried it recently but I think they are aiming to get the features of flash7 only
[02:09] <n2diy> kubuntu: sudo chmod 777 /path/filename
[02:09] <idea> ok. still struggling with icons, themes and absence of default schemas? anyone got any ideas?
[02:09] <Judicata> running flash9 from backports just fine.
[02:09] <nekr0z> Jed: xserver-xorg-nvidia and xserver-xorg-video-nv, install via "sudo apt-get install <package>", put in xorg.conf to try.
[02:09] <kubuntu> thanks, n2diy , i did not put a space after chmod. ill do that now. thanks.
[02:09] <idea> green: forget illustrator, try xaraxtreme.. http://xaraxtreme.org
[02:09] <Shizuo> Does "Linux" haves new projects related to standardization?
[02:10] <Jed> nekr0z: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338422&highlight=7800+gt <-- same problem i think
[02:10] <green-> Judicata: evidently that's not an option for me
[02:10] <nekr0z> Jed: btw, try it with pure vesa driver first...
[02:10] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[02:10] <wastrel> Shizuo:  lsb and fhs (off the top of my head)  what standards are you interested in.
[02:10] <Judicata> green-: have you tried forcing the version in synaptic?
[02:10] <green-> idea: well, i still need photoshop, either way :)
[02:10] <green-> judicata: no, i haven't
[02:10] <Shizuo> wastrel: I was thinking about something more system-wide
[02:10] <Shizuo> wastrel: Like APIs and stuff
[02:10] <idea> green: maybe, but you sure don't need illustrator ;)
[02:11] <phixnay> nekr0z, when I make symbolic links with ln -s can I tell it to make a backup of what it overwrites?
[02:11] <Shizuo> Xara is not even close to Illustrator
[02:11] <Shizuo> :/
[02:11] <idea> green: and photoshop runs under crossover/cedega, no?
[02:11] <Jed> yay
[02:11] <Jed> vesa worked :D
[02:11] <idea> shizuo: xara is *beyond* illustrator.
[02:11] <Judicata> green-: search for flashplugin in synaptic, go to "package - force version - (choose the version)" install it and see if it works.
[02:11] <Shizuo> idea: Yeah, "uh huh"
[02:11] <superkirbyartist> Thank you.
[02:12] <chiarato> I cant get my wireless linksys wusb54g working does anybody know maybe a website that would help me?
[02:12] <gengiskanhg> HELP please. I have utf8 files with bad encoding in Ubuntu 6.06. I see spanish characters (tilde, etc) as <?>
[02:12] <cccp> Bonjour tout le monde :)
[02:12] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to get the Gnome Terminal to display thigns in different colors?  When using Konsole on Fedora, things are color coded when I vi a shell script of other executable
[02:12] <idea> shizuo: suck it and see.. you might just enjoy it! i've been a user for over 10 years :)
[02:12] <Shizuo> idea: Used both. Xara is nice but is amateurish
[02:12] <nekr0z> Jed: now go explore different drivers and options. Read "man nvidia" for driver's options in xorg.conf.
[02:12] <chiarato> I cant get my wireless linksys wusb54g working does anybody know maybe a website that would help me?
[02:13] <idea> shizuo: amateurish it ain't, though it's not as feature bloated as illustrator. sure.
[02:13] <Jed> nekr0z: first i have to get my network card up and running
[02:13] <kitche> craigbass1976: with vim you need vim-full
[02:13] <n2diy> ! fr | cccp
[02:13] <ubotwo> cccp: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:13] <phixnay> chiarato: I configured that same card, let me find the website
[02:13] <nekr0z> phixnay: But you can copy them with different names to backup. Something "cp ./symlink ./symlink.backup
[02:13] <Shizuo> idea: Apologists are always finding ways to make problems look like features
[02:13] <Shizuo> idea: "not feature bloated" is just apologist talk to "not there yet"
[02:13] <phixnay> nekr0z - thanks
[02:13] <green-> Judicata: guess i can't break anything too bad by doing that, right?
[02:13] <bowmann> hi I'm installing ubuntu on my laptop. I manage to boot from the cd alright but when I select "Start or Install" I get a loading bar for one minute then just a back screen with a blinking underscore at the top. Anything I can do to fix this?
[02:14] <Judicata> green-: nope. if flash9 is broken, just uninstall it.
[02:14] <Shizuo> bowmann: wait
[02:14] <nekr0z> Jed: what kind of card?
[02:14] <bowmann> wait?
[02:14] <bowmann> how long
[02:14] <chiarato> phixnay: thanks man you're a life saver
[02:14] <Shizuo> bowmann: If that doesn't work, I would try another CD or distro
[02:14] <idea> shizuo: *laugh*.. i prefer that my apps *don't* run like treacle :)
[02:14] <green-> actually, flashplugin still doesn't come up in synaptic
[02:14] <chiarato> phixnay: what is the website!
[02:14] <Shizuo> bowmann: Otherwise, you'll be in front of hours of mind-disturbind hard work
[02:14] <phixnay> chiarato: here's the page http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Distributions
[02:14] <green-> the moz lib package is there, but no flashplugin
[02:14] <bowmann> I waited 10 minutes that should be long enough right?
[02:14] <snook353> is there a way to reinstall x11 without losing my home directory?
[02:14] <morpheus74> Hi.  I'
[02:14] <Shizuo> bowmann: Yeah, it's long enough
[02:15] <bowmann> hmm :(
[02:15] <idea> anyways, i need help with gconf, themes and absence of menu icons..
[02:15] <Shizuo> bowmann: Laptops are difficult for Linux, as some stuff are not very well supported
[02:15] <kitche> snook353: well x11 has nothing to do with your /home
[02:15] <Judicata> green-: have you posted your sources.list yet?
[02:15] <green-> yep
[02:15] <Judicata> green-: to pastebin, that is.
[02:15] <bowmann> any other good distro's apart from ubuntu with good support for laptops with widescreens?
[02:15] <green-> yes, lemme find the url
[02:15] <Shizuo> bowmann: You can even try to read logs, by changing the current console, but that will only waste your time
[02:16] <craigbass1976> kitche,  "Package vim-full has no installation candidate"  it did say that vim-gnome is one of the replacements for it though.  I've insatlled that, but how do I know that's the vim I'm using?
[02:16] <Shizuo> bowmann: You'll have to spend days to fix it
[02:16] <morpheus74> I'm going to install Ubunt as a duel boot on my HP lap top.  Which version should I install (6.06, or 6.10) if I want to keep it installed for at least 1 yr and contine to receive updates?
[02:16] <Judicata> bowmann: are you trying edgy or dapper?
[02:16] <bowmann> not sure
[02:16] <Shizuo> bowmann: I don't know, try a live CD first
[02:16] <Shizuo> bowmann: And then SuSE maybe
[02:16] <green-> Judicata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2206/
[02:16] <jrib> craigbass1976: do you have universe?
[02:16] <bowmann> hmm my CD drive is now not responding
[02:16] <Shizuo> bowmann: Otherwise, stick to what already works
[02:17] <Shizuo> bowmann: You're just testing Linux, right?
[02:17] <idea> eek! eek! any way to fix broken themes/menu icons please?
[02:17] <n2diy> morpheus74: 6.06
[02:17] <bowmann> yes
[02:17] <Shizuo> bowmann: Install windows
[02:17] <jrib> craigbass1976: you choose the vim with:  sudo update-alternatives --config vim
[02:17] <idea> lol
[02:17] <Shizuo> bowmann: The original
[02:17] <Shizuo> bowmann: And then VMWare
[02:17] <Shizuo> bowmann: And Linux inside it.
[02:17] <elg> "waiting on root filesystem" or something like that in boot
[02:17] <Shizuo> bowmann: Better than spending hours fixing the obvious
[02:17] <pe3r> !gentoo
[02:17] <ubotwo> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[02:18] <bowmann> okay, I've just bought an old server and was thinking of putting linux on that instead
[02:18] <Shizuo> bowmann: Ubuntu works really fine inside VMWare
[02:18] <Shizuo> bowmann: How old?
[02:18] <bowmann> dual core p 3
[02:18] <morpheus74> When Ubuntu says it will support a version for a set amoutn of time, does support mean offering patches, etc?
[02:18] <kitche> morpheus74: yes
[02:18] <nekr0z> morpheus74: sure
[02:19] <Shizuo> bowmann: Then you don't need it in your laptop for that
[02:19] <Shizuo> bowmann: Try it inside VMWare
[02:19] <bowmann> okay
[02:19] <Judicata> green-: ok...it looks like it should be there.  Try hitting "reload" in synaptic, and searching for flashplugin again.
[02:19] <jrib> morpheus74: yeah, security updates
[02:19] <Shizuo> bowmann: VMWare Player is free
[02:19] <Shizuo> bowmann: And you can create Virtual Machines using EasyVMX (google it)
[02:20] <jrib> Judicata: he's on amd64
[02:20] <morpheus74> So when the next version of Ubuntu is released, those using 6.10 will have to update to the latest version to receive support?
[02:20] <craigbass1976> jrib, yep, I have universe.  The new vim was aldready made the new default.  Still no colors in my script.
[02:20] <Judicata> jrib: ahhh
[02:20] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[02:20] <qt> Can anyone tell me how to reslove undeclared UTS_RELEASE errors on ./config?
[02:20] <green-> gnash stinks
[02:20] <jrib> craigbass1976: :syntax on
[02:20] <green-> man this is lousy
[02:20] <Judicata> green-: can you not d/l it from the site and install it from the tar.gz?
[02:20] <nekr0z> morpheus74: No. Each version, except for LTS, has 1,5 years of support.
[02:21] <jrib> green-: use a 32bit firefox, that's probably the best option
[02:21] <green-> what a major disruption
[02:21] <phixnay> what does this mean?
[02:21] <phixnay> Set the library directories and the compiler environment.  LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" CC="gcc-3.4 -m32"
[02:21] <craigbass1976> jrib, You type that once you're in vi?  Eevery time, or just once?
[02:21] <green-> Judicata: nope, their installer doesn't work on AMD64
[02:21] <wastrel> hi i like vim
[02:21] <blanky> green-: what are you on about
[02:21] <jrib> craigbass1976: it's in my ~/.vimrc
[02:21] <green-> jrib: that's something i can do?
[02:21] <green-> blanky: not sure what you mean
[02:21] <jrib> green-: yes, it's on the page I linked you to before
[02:21] <morpheus74> nekr0z, Each version has 1 yr support, LTS has 5 yrs?
[02:22] <matt4magic> My system freze up when it sets system time, Ubuntu 5.1 + 6.10 and Debian gives the same result. BIOS is old (99). Any suggestions what to search for?
[02:22] <riotkittie> hi i hate vim
[02:22] <jrib> green-: someone else gave you a direct link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:22] <phixnay> yeah those firefox directions work
[02:22] <nekr0z> morpheus74: No. Each version 18 month. LTS - 3 years.
[02:23] <craigbass1976> jrib, I've got no such file, jsut viminfo, and that doesn't appear to be what I'm looking for, or is it?
[02:23] <jrib> craigbass1976: you can create it
[02:23] <Judicata> morpheus74: if you install one, you can always upgrade to another.
[02:23] <jrib> craigbass1976: it gets run everytime you start vim, you will slowly start filling it up :)
[02:23] <humblerodent> I'm trying to install my new D-Link DWL-G510 wireless card.  I know I've physically installed the card properly because one of the lights on it blinks every few seconds.  But 'lspci' doesn't show it, and installing it with ndiswrapper says "driver present" but not "hardware present".  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance
[02:23] <green-> jrib: missed it, thanks.
[02:23] <Judicata> morpheus74: you don't have to install something from srcratch to upgrade - its actually pretty easy to do.
[02:24] <nekr0z> morpheus74: LTS on servers - 5 years.
[02:24] <chiarato>  phixnay: sorry to bug you bro' but the site you gave me there's a whole bunch of stuff what should I do to make my linksys wusb54g to work???
[02:24] <morpheus74> Judicata, Oh, thanks for pointing that out.  What version are you using?
[02:24] <phixnay> let me take a look
[02:24] <idea> chiarato: try http://dd-wrt.com
[02:24] <idea> very nice firmware there.
[02:24] <nekr0z> morpheus74: 6.10 on laptop, 6.06 on server
[02:25] <idea> you might need the tiny version if your router is lacking ram.. sounds like it.
[02:25] <Judicata> morpheus74: I use edgy, but there really is not a big noticeable difference between Dapper (6.06) and Edgy (6.10).
[02:25] <stork> http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;261269498
[02:25] <kiamo> is anyone familiar with debootstrap?
[02:26] <cjavier> chiarato: forget about dd-wrt, that for acces point
[02:26] <blanky> what the heck guys? 150 mbs of updates just now
[02:26] <phixnay> chiarato: you're right, these instructions are old. Basically ndiswrapper lets you use the windows drivers from the cd on linux, and in this case it is the only way to make WUSB54G work
[02:26] <Judicata> morpheus74: There are a few quirks that some people experence with Edgy, so you might want to go with dapper. Or you could install edgy, and if that doesn't work trying dapper. Its just up to you.
[02:26] <chiarato> idea: the site didn't work
[02:26] <jrib> kiamo: you're more likely to get help if you just assume someone might be and ask the next question
[02:26] <kiamo> hehe k, thanks jrib
[02:26] <_james> i need help how can i auto-reconnect my internet connection on disconnection.. im using speedtouch silver modem on PPPoE. help anyone?
[02:26] <morpheus74> The only issue I ran into running Dapper Live was it could not detect my wireless card (Linksys).  Do you think Edge might fix this?
[02:26] <cjavier> chiarato: and I have a wusb54g and it works out-of-the-box
[02:26] <idea> chairato: google for ddwrt.. might be http://ddwrt.com
[02:27] <Judicata> morpheus74: I don't think so - you can get it working under either though, I imagine. Do you have a wired connection that works?
[02:27] <phixnay> chairato: start from the "2 - Install NDISWrapper" part http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#2_-_Install_NDISWrapper
[02:27] <kiamo> when im trying to build a 32bit chroot with debootstrap and whether i choose edgy, or breezy or dapper etc it never seems to work
[02:27] <nekr0z> morpheus74: It could. And you can also fix it after a little forum search, that's for sure.
[02:27] <kiamo> the command im typing is :
[02:28] <kiamo> sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 edgy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[02:28] <morpheus74> Judicata, Yes, I have a wired connection that works, just would like the ability to use with out being wired.
[02:28] <kitche> !chroot
[02:28] <ubotwo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:28] <facenew> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wycd-n7RsA&feature=PlayList&p=EE52D9ED01495685&index=0&playnext=1
[02:28] <Judicata> morpheus74: like nek0z said - I wouldn't worry about that - I'm sure you can get the wireless card working under either one.
[02:28] <phixnay> chiarato: in the instructions they have sample driver names, but make sure you use the acutal driver name when you do it, like WUSB54G.inf or something
[02:28] <_james> i need help how can i auto-reconnect my internet connection on disconnection.. im using speedtouch silver modem on PPPoE. help anyone?
[02:28] <kitche> kiamo: you following those instructions correct?
[02:28] <kiamo> yup
[02:29] <kiamo> but its not working
[02:29] <kiamo> at least
[02:29] <kiamo> i dont believe it is
[02:29] <morpheus74> Alright, I'm off to pour some coffee and start.  One last question, on a duel boot with XP, I should install XP first, right?
[02:29] <nekr0z> morpheus74: Then you'll definitely fix you wireless card in a couple of minutes.
[02:29] <kiamo> kitche, and if i ignore this step and continue on it fails to install firefox 32bit in the enviroment
[02:29] <nekr0z> morpheus74: Yes. Absolutely.
[02:30] <Judicata> morpheus74: Yes. If you want to use XP.
[02:30] <VanessaE> could someone tell me just exactly how to configure nbd-server?  (since NFS is broken, I figured I'd try coda)
[02:30] <morpheus74> Thanks for the great help!  Be Back Later!
[02:30] <blueprints88888> hello, i am in need of some help on getting a program called Beast to work on my computer but it says it has no input or output MIDI device.How owuld i correct this and also i installed easy ubuntu?
[02:30] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[02:30] <n2diy> VanessaE: What is broken in NFS?
[02:30] <matt____> does aanyone know howto install new bootsplash
[02:30] <phixnay> nekr0z: I'm following the instructions for wine, but when it says [[ Set the library directories and the compiler environment.  LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" CC="gcc-3.4 -m32" ] ]  what do I have to do?
[02:31] <VanessaE> n2diy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/71212
[02:31] <VanessaE> that. :-)
[02:31] <n2diy> VanessaE: tnx
[02:31] <VanessaE> (and it's hitting my systems pretty hard  :-(  )
[02:31] <blueprints88888> phixnay are you trying to install wine?
[02:31] <livingtm> how do i reinstall grub on my hard drive from the live CD?
[02:32] <humblerodent> sorry, back.
[02:32] <cod> question: does ubuntu for 64 bits processor works well to with 32bits software ?
[02:32] <riotkittie> !grub | livingtm
[02:32] <ubotwo> livingtm: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:32] <phixnay> blueprints88888: yes, but I'm using 64, so it's harder. These are the instructions I'm using http://www.ilfilosofo.com/blog/2007/01/12/installing-wine-on-ubuntu-edgy-610-64-bit/
[02:32] <blueprints88888> oh, hm.. have you tried using apt-get?
[02:32] <Smirnov> do i need 2 graphics cards to run 2 x servers simultaneously
[02:32] <_james> !upgrade
[02:32] <ubotwo> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:32] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[02:32] <kitche> cod: umm no unless you have a multibit system
[02:33] <paulcager> !myserver
[02:33] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[02:33] <phixnay> blueprints88888, yeah, I try that first always, but they don't have a 64 bit package, so I'm building from source with 32 bit libraries. Yay.
[02:33] <cod> kitche: thanks
[02:34] <paulcager> !id3tool
[02:34] <ubotwo> id3tool - A command line editor for id3 tags. - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[02:34] <matt____> who knows howto change boot image to new one i downloaded
[02:34] <HOMER> hi, my domain is run in home pc. how config bind9 ??
[02:35] <blueprints88888> phixnay ah, i c. sorry i wish i could help out more but im still a learning linux and ubuntu myself,
[02:35] <kiamo> please can someone tell my why this cmd doesnt work:  sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 edgy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[02:35] <kitche> HOMER: I would look for bind examples it's easier to look at those instead of someone explaining it
[02:35] <livingtm> I think the edgy install failed because i made a separate boot partition.. but it failed silently and rebooted
[02:35] <livingtm> as if everything went ok
[02:36] <VanessaE> and btw I'd use samba, which works, but it's too slow (5MB/sec down and maybe 3MB/sec up, over 10/100 link)
[02:36] <HOMER> examples link ?
[02:37] <kitche> HOMER: crashrecovery.org/bind9.html
[02:37] <phixnay> how do I do this?
[02:37] <phixnay> I edited the dlls/gdi32/Makefile file to point to the 32-bit libraries.  I replaced
[02:37] <phixnay> EXTRALIBS = /usr/lib/libsicuuc.a /usr/lib/libsicudata.a -lstdc++ -lgcc_s
[02:37] <phixnay> with
[02:37] <phixnay> EXTRALIBS = /usr/lib32/libsicuuc.a /usr/lib/libsicudata.a -lstdc++ -lgcc_s
[02:38] <kiamo> !hoary
[02:38] <ubotwo> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[02:39] <kiamo> !warty
[02:39] <ubotwo> warty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"
[02:39] <kiamo> is it a bad idea to use hoary or warty data?
[02:39] <_james> what's better to use on upgrading to edgy.. update manager or  apt-get?
[02:39] <Smirnov> can you use the same keyboard for two ServerLayouts in xorg.conf ?
[02:39] <HOMER> kitche: thx
[02:40] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[02:40] <wastrel> update-managert
[02:41] <humblerodent> can anybody help....?  "lspci" doesn't even list an unidentified entry or anything at all for my new wireless D-Link DWL-G510.  I know I put it in right because I get a light. =P
[02:41] <mikefoo_> Question: Why when I echo contents into a file the timestamp for ls -lc changes? it is supposed to list change time as in change of inode info
[02:42] <n2diy> ! bugs
[02:42] <ubotwo> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:43] <_james> is it ok to upgrade to edgy using the update manager?
[02:43] <kiamo> if im setting up a 32 bit enviroment
[02:43] <kitche> _james: yes
[02:43] <_james> kitche: how about apt-get?
[02:43] <kiamo> when ever i run something in it, is linux going to be running a 64bit AND 32bit copies of the os at the same time?
[02:44] <kitche> _james: depends sometimes it's safe other times you might get breakages
[02:44] <livingtm> when i run "grub-install /dev/sda1" it tells me "Could noit find device for /boot. Not found or not a block device"
[02:44] <kitche> kiamo: not exactly
[02:44] <_james> kitche: ok so what do you prefer to use? update manager or apt-get?
[02:44] <Smirnov> how do you startx for a different X server, i arleady have two ServerLayouts in my Xorg.conf ?
[02:45] <kitche> _james: I use aptitude myself
[02:45] <kiamo> is it to my advantage to run x64 ubuntu and do this debootstrap thing to run 32bit stuff?
[02:45] <kiamo> all problems to get it running aside ;)
[02:46] <kitche> kiamo: well it depends really but probably I have my own chroot that I use myself used for testing and such
[02:47] <_james> kitche:  so how was it? do you happen to get any errors?
[02:47] <StraightShooter> !ati
[02:47] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:47] <kitche> _james: no
[02:48] <_james> kitche: kool, then i'll try using apt-get. :)
[02:48] <kitche> _james: you have to edit /etc/apt/source.list
[02:48] <Smirnov> ok
[02:48] <Smirnov> i edited my gdm.conf to have 2 X servers
[02:49] <Smirnov> do i need to do anything to redirect my 2nd X server to a specific ServerLayout ?
[02:49] <_james> kitche: ok
[02:49] <HiP_P> is anyone else having problems the codec's and mplayer?
[02:50] <_james> kitche: where can i get the right sources.list
[02:50] <fluxd> Hi can anyone reccomend me a tool that can combine empty partitions? I dont think gparted can do it
[02:50] <GardenHose> what exactly is gksudo?
[02:50] <phixnay> fluxd: can you delete both and then make a new one?
[02:50] <kitche> _james: you just have to change dapper to edgy in your source.list
[02:50] <HiP_P> *is anyone else having problems with the codec's and mplayer on 6.10 ?
[02:50] <knol_n00b> hello
[02:50] <kitche> grayscale: graphical sudo pretty much
[02:50] <_james> kitche: ok thnx.. i'll upgrade my box now
[02:51] <knol_n00b> installing linux for the first time. having trouble installing ubuntu. can anyone give me a quick hand please?
[02:51] <fab5freddy> Does anybody use DemocracyTV?
[02:51] <darkempress> ok, what package contains mkdev?
[02:51] <user01> if i have a bunch of adobe fonts can i install them in ubuntu?  pbf and pbms
[02:51] <kitche> GardenHose: graphical sudo sorry about that grayscale
[02:51] <darkempress> !mkdev
[02:51] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[02:51] <fluxd> phixnay its presently free or empty so I dont think I can delete them I am looking for something like redistribute freespace like in partition magic
[02:51] <kiamo> kitche, using older versions (warty, hoary) fails when trying to run: chroot /var/chroot dpkg -- force-depends etc
[02:51] <GardenHose> ahh thanks
[02:51] <kitche> darkempress: mkdev isn't used it's mknod
[02:51] <ome248> Anyone know how to get mouse cursor to show when using a usb mouse?
[02:51] <darkempress> mknod?
[02:51] <darkempress> !mknod
[02:51] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[02:52] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[02:52] <kiamo> and newer versions (dapper or edgy) just comes to a stop at one of the library extracts
[02:52] <darkempress> wtf is mknod?
[02:52] <wastrel> coreutils
[02:52] <kitche> darkempress: same thing as mkdev
[02:52] <fluxd> !partition
[02:52] <ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:52] <kitche> !away
[02:52] <ubotwo> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:53] <humblerodent> took out my card, reseated it in a different slot, made sure to seat it firmly.  no hardware detection at all.
[02:53] <humblerodent> :(
[02:53] <fluxd> phixnay anything to combine 2 partition would also be nice
[02:53] <darkempress> kitche, my girlfriend's computer has a bunch of card readers, and one was named /dev/hdc, same as the cdrom, so i had to rm -rf /dev/hdc and now i need to remake it
[02:53] <phixnay> fluxd: you could try moving the other partitions around until the free space is continuous, but that's all I can think of
[02:53] <knol_n00b> could anyone give me a hand please. its probably something simple thats stopping me from installing ubuntu
[02:53] <tekteen> Can someone help me with software modems on toshiba?
[02:53] <kitche> darkempress: man mknod will tell you more about it
[02:54] <knol_n00b> i boot to CD, choose install, but it never makes it past loading. i get some error about "no displays installed" or "no screens detected" or something along those lines
[02:54] <darkempress> kitche, i did, doesn't seem to help any
[02:54] <p47> Hey can you help me with samba ? I canto connect with my server. windows pay me user an pass and I can't accses
[02:54] <knol_n00b> look familiar to anyone?
[02:54] <kiamo> !sid
[02:54] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[02:54] <shwag> how can I see what services have been started?
[02:55] <oxigen> where can i find Md5 Sum for ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[02:55] <phixnay> knol_n00b: I had the problem where I couldn't see anything on the monitor
[02:55] <kitche> darkempress: well then it's just mknod hdc major minor you need to figure out that correct numbers for major and minor
[02:55] <phixnay> knol_noob: does it leave you with a command line or anything?
[02:55] <knol_n00b> it quits to command line after giving me the option to read the error, and the advanced error
[02:55] <knol_n00b> but the command line is dead. i cant use any commands
[02:55] <fluxd> phixnay u know any tool to combine two ext3 partition then?
[02:56] <knol_n00b> mind you, its been a while since i've used linux, they might be the wrong commands
[02:56] <darkempress> kitche, the cdomr is mounted at /media/cdrom how do i set that in nautilus?
[02:56] <user01> how do you install your own pfm fonts?
[02:56] <knol_n00b> BTW this is version 6.10 edgy
[02:56] <kitche> knol_n00b: ctrl+alt+f2 then use the commands sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:57] <phixnay> fluxd: no, sorry, unless you want to delete both and then make a new one. I'm not really very good at partitioning.
[02:57] <kitche> darkempress: nautilius already knows that the cdrom gets mounted to /media/cdrom
[02:57] <HiP_P> !codec
[02:57] <phixnay> I've only ever used gparted
[02:57] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[02:57] <_james> kitche: was that the sources.list of edgy? it's so many :)
[02:57] <darkempress> kitche, then how come when i click on the cdrom thing it wont let me open anything?
[02:57] <kitche> darkempress: well you deletec /dev/hdc
[02:57] <phixnay> knol_n00b: well if it doesn't give you a bad command output, then I guess it's dead
[02:58] <kitche> _james: you might be able to use source-o-matic
[02:58] <_james> kitche: how?
[02:58] <darkempress> kitche, /dev/hdc was pointing to a flashcard reader
[02:58] <phixnay> knol_n00b: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that sometimes works
[02:58] <kitche> !sourceomatic
[02:58] <ubotwo> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:58] <knol_n00b> do i just type that at the command line when it dies
[02:58] <ome248> Im using a usb mouse and I cant see the mouse cursor although its working. Any idea how to make the mouse arrow visable?
[02:58] <phixnay> are you at the command line now?
[02:59] <kitche> darkempress: I would see what your /etc/fstab looks like but I bet /dev/hdc pointed to /media/cdrom
[02:59] <livingtm> damn i can NOT get grub to install
[02:59] <livingtm> it seems to be having trouble wiht my sata drive
[02:59] <kiamo> whats the cmd for look up that number you use with the Kill cmd
[02:59] <kiamo> lol
[02:59] <kitche> livingtm: try grub-install /dev/sda unless you want to install it to the block
[02:59] <knol_n00b> nah i only have one computer
[02:59] <knol_n00b> lemme get a notebook hooked up and ill try again
[03:00] <darkempress> kitche, i just told you it didn't
[03:00] <knol_n00b> and ill hit this channel up if it doesn't work
[03:00] <knol_n00b> thanks for the lead phixnay
[03:00] <livingtm> kitche, "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device"
[03:00] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[03:00] <livingtm> kitche, but i can mount it ok
[03:00] <kitche> darkempress: let me see your /etc/fstab to see what everything setup as
[03:00] <wazzu> Does anyone know where the frame buffer for virtual consoles are configured in Dapper?  Can the frame buffer resolution be reset with the fbset utility?
[03:01] <chiarato> phixnay: I install the driver using ndiswrapper -i drive.inf then ndiswrapper -l then I get driver invalid and that driver is the one that came with the adapter??
[03:01] <darkempress> kitche, i had a douplicate entry for /dev/hdc >.> one of them was the cdrom, the other was the flash card reader :O
[03:01] <kitche> wazzu: it's usually done with grub menu.lst at least how mine is setup
[03:01] <tacticalcron> Evenin' all..
[03:01] <_james> is there a new version feisty? is it out now?
[03:01] <Smirnov> `hey can anyone help me configure my 2 monitors to run separate X servers.. i tweaked Xorg.conf and gdm.conf but now i'm getting a problem starting the X server on my 2nd monitor
[03:01] <kitche> _james: #ubuntu+1 has all information for that
[03:02] <phixnay> chiarato: are you sure that is the only driver that came on the cd? I remember there being at least two.
[03:02] <wazzu> Thanks Kitche.
[03:03] <chiarato> phixnay: my is v4 theres also v1 and v2 should I try to install them?
[03:03] <phixnay> chiarato: no, v4 is a different chipset than v1 and v2, so the other two won't work
[03:04] <chiarato> phixnay: I only copyed the .inf file when I installed
[03:04] <phixnay> wait, does your adapter say WUSB54Gv4 on the bottom
[03:04] <_james> !paste
[03:04] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <user01> what do i have to do to use the fonts i paid for a few years back?  They are pfm and pfb format
[03:04] <chiarato> phixnay: yes
[03:04] <juliob> livingtm: i just installed grub on both /sda and my /sda8 (which is my /boot).  no problem with sata here
[03:05] <flk> i am running off a liveCD and i noticed that on the from people mentioning that you can chroot into the hdd environment
[03:05] <phixnay> chiarato: then that's definitely the driver you should use. I had the same kind of problem with the invalid driver, but I finally got it to work somehow
[03:05] <flk> how i can do that ? i have already mounted the hdd
[03:05] <livingtm> I just did grub, root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) and it appeared to go ok. but when i reboot it just hangs
[03:05] <chiarato> phixnay: the odd thing is that the first time I installed ubuntu i got my connection automatically now it just won't work!
[03:05] <livingtm> by hangs io mean it scans the cdrom, scans the HD, then sits there with a black screen
[03:06] <leaosouto> help-me please!
[03:06] <phixnay> chiarato: that's pretty cool. I don't know how that happened, because I thought ndiswrapper was the only way to install that adapter
[03:07] <kitche> flk: chroot /dev/<dev/ /bin/bash
[03:07] <phixnay> this is getting over my head pretty fast : |
[03:07] <leaosouto> I need a personalized distribution!
[03:07] <p47> I can't connect with samba... it needs user and pass and I gove them but I can't connect can you help me ?
[03:07] <kitche> flk: remember sudo before chroot
[03:07] <p47> I can't connect with samba... it needs user and pass and I gove them but I can't connect can you help me ?
[03:07] <ubuntu1> p47
[03:07] <Knol> ive got a notebook up now that i can chat on while i try to install ubuntu again
[03:07] <chiarato> phixnay: how do uninstall the driver so I can try to reinstall again?
[03:08] <ubuntu1> you need password to enter in another windows from samba
[03:08] <kitche> p47: also samba has it's own user database
[03:08] <flk> kitche: damn i kept forgetting sudo all the time hehe :'(
[03:08] <Knol> so i boot to the cd now. if i choose "start or install ubuntu" the following happens
[03:08] <ubuntu1> kitche man
[03:08] <phixnay> chiarato: I can't remember - try typing "man ndiswrapper" for a list of options
[03:08] <p47> kitche: what should I do ?
[03:09] <ubuntu1> !squirrelmail
[03:09] <ubotwo> squirrelmail - Webmail for nuts - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[03:09] <juliob> p47: are you doing this manually?  /etc/fstab?  smbfs?  cifs?
[03:09] <chiarato> phixnay: it says ndiswrapper -e driver.inf but it says driver not installed try ndiswrapper -l to see the list
[03:10] <ubuntu1> hey is there someone know how to configure squirrelmail.Becouse i have it and the web mail work but problem is with password
[03:10] <leaosouto> I need a personalized distribution to many pcs!
[03:10] <leaosouto> !I need a personalized distribution to many pcs!
[03:10] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:10] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[03:10] <leaosouto> !I need a personalized distribution to many pcs!!!!
[03:10] <rdv> hello, is there a way i can see what version of Ubuntu is installed on my box?
[03:10] <chiarato> phixnay: dude this thing makes no f,, sence!
[03:10] <leaosouto> !!!!!!I need a personalized distribution to many pcs!!!!
[03:10] <Knol> i get the loading screen with the progress indicator bouncing left to right, then the error message
[03:10] <VanessaE> STOP FLOODING!!!
[03:10] <Rookie-1> !ops
[03:10] <ubotwo> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:10] <p47> juliob: I didn't anythig in fstab ! should I edit something in fstab ?
[03:10] <Crawler> !!!
[03:10] <n2diy> ! repeat | leaosouto
[03:10] <ubotwo> leaosouto: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:10] <Knol> FAILED to start the x server (your graphical interface). it is likely that it is not set up correctly. would you like to view th x server output to diagnose the problem
[03:11] <_james> kitche: is my source list ok on edgy? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2211/
[03:11] <kitche> p47: you can edit /etc/smb.conf the security= line think you can make it guest hang on making sure since it's been a while sicne I manually configured samba I usually use swat
[03:11] <user01> is there a wiki on installing fonts?
[03:11] <phixnay> chiarato: see what the list says. You might not be typing the name exactly the way it appears.
[03:11] <livingtm> Why would Grub say it suceeded, then not boot? Im just getting a blank screen, no errors or anything
[03:11] <juliob> p47: there are so many ways to connect.  the question is what do you want to do today
[03:11] <kitche> !fonts|user01
[03:11] <ubotwo> ser01: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:12] <kitche> _james: ALL THSOE ENTRYIES HAVE DAPPER
[03:12] <leaosouto> acho q estou na comunidade errada, pois onde est o espirito de ajuda!
[03:12] <kitche> bah caps
[03:12] <user01> kitche: thanks!
[03:12] <Mez> !es > leaosouto
[03:12] <fokuslee> my gnome-settings-daemon hangs can anyone help ?
[03:12] <darkempress> ok...so how do i remake /dev/hdc?
[03:12] <wastrel> !pt
[03:12] <ubotwo> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:12] <p47> juliob: just I want to enter to a folder look ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2208/
[03:12] <_james> kitche: ops
[03:12] <lilly> During boot uspash screen, my system pauses at "Configuring NEtwork Interfaces" for quite some time.. how can i make it faster? thanks!
[03:12] <p47> juliob: this is my smb.conf but I don't know if there are a mistakes
[03:12] <wastrel> mez that's portugese ;] 
[03:13] <Mez> wastrel, I was close
[03:13] <flk> kitche: hmm when i run 'sudo chroot /media/ubuntu /bin/bash' i keep getting 'chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Not a directory'
[03:13] <javiolo> hi
[03:13] <flk> i am runnign a liveCD
[03:13] <javiolo> what is the ubuntu package for perl Audio::Mixer ?
[03:13] <[Hugo] > hey, is there any possibility to automatically sort the k-menu alphabetical?
[03:13] <n2diy> lilly: does the same thing here, I just stopped rebooting. :)
[03:14] <Mez> !libaudio-mixer-perl | javiolo
[03:14] <ubotwo> libaudio-mixer-perl - perl extension for Sound Mixer control - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[03:14] <lilly> n2diy: lol :(
[03:14] <javiolo> mez thanks
[03:14] <kitche> flk: you forgot the /media/ubuntu/ the slash after ubuntu
[03:15] <juliob> p47: if you're just trying to connec to your Windows fileshare, I don't even think you need smb. conf.  Just type something like: smbclient -U username '\\server\share' password
[03:15] <Knol> after booting to the CD to install ubuntu, and choosing install, i get error "failed to start the x server bla bla no screens found"
[03:15] <Knol> any ideas. please any help
[03:15] <flk> kitche: makes no difference same error
[03:15] <juliob> p47: or are you trying to share a folder?
[03:15] <n2diy> Could a bug that effects samba, effect nfs too?
[03:15] <_james> kitche: how bout this one? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2212/
[03:15] <p47> juliob: yes U try to share a folder !
[03:15] <kitche> flk: hmm that is odd since it's suppose to be chroot NEWROOT kist try chroot /media/ubuntu
[03:16] <p47> juliob: but I need that all the peolple have to log with pass and user
[03:16] <user01> kitche:  can you install otf fonts in ubuntu?
[03:16] <thame> Can anyone help me set up my touchscreen on Dapper?
[03:16] <thame> I'm not even sure where to start
[03:16] <kitche> _james looks good to me jus thave to sudo apt-get update before you run dist-upgrade
[03:16] <oxigen> can i burn cd iso file on dvd, will this work?
[03:16] <kitche> user01: there is a way ues I haven't done it myself sicne I use ttf
[03:17] <_james> kitche: ok.. weeeeee
[03:17] <juliob> p47: as root run: smbpasswd -a usernam
[03:17] <p47> juliob: in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2208/ I have the configuration in the down part this is the folder that I wanto to share !
[03:17] <n2diy> thame: you can say that again! Have you tried google?
[03:17] <flk> kitche: sadly nope gives me same error
[03:17] <p47> juliob: ok I will do wait
[03:17] <livingtm> man i have never had this much trouble installing edgy
[03:17] <thame> nd2dly: I've found this (for touchscreens): http://sifter.org/~simon/journal/20060413.html
[03:17] <juliob> p47: and add this to your smb.conf in that share section:     security = username
[03:18] <thame> But I don't know how to locate mine. It's not showing in device manager
[03:18] <juliob> p47: ignore that last statement.  that's wrong
[03:18] <kitche> flk: hmm
[03:18] <ant> could i use apt-get to update my ethernet drivers?
[03:18] <p47> juliob: ok I will do
[03:18] <juliob> p47: try this in your smb.conf:         valid users = username
[03:18] <kitche> flk: this is just a wild guess try /bin/dash instead of /bin/bash since the command I gacve you before should have worked
[03:18] <juliob> p47: don't do the security line i told you; i was wrong. try the valid users line instead
[03:18] <OmniD> argalarg
[03:19] <OmniD> Okay my friend is unable to get into his terminal
[03:19] <p47> juliob:  now I can !
[03:19] <p47> juliob: thank's !
[03:19] <p47> juliob: :D
[03:19] <juliob> p47: you're welcome
[03:19] <ant> could i use apt-get to update my ethernet drivers?
[03:19] <mirak> what's the next ubuntu great feature ?
[03:20] <n2diy> thame: did you DL the driver?
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> !feisty
[03:20] <ubotwo> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> mirak: See the specs
[03:20] <mirak> tonyyarusso: on lauchnpad ?
[03:20] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> mirak: yep
[03:20] <chris_knol> can anyone give me a hand please
[03:20] <mirak> tonyyarusso: I have not seen someting revultionary
[03:20] <mirak> vo
[03:21] <chris_knol> if someone's able to help me wiht an edgy install problem, please IM me. it would be appreciated
[03:21] <chris_knol> pulling my hair out here,
[03:21] <HymnToLife> chris_knol, why not ask in here ?
[03:21] <OmniD> Okay my friend is unable to get into his terminal and what appears is a blank screen which you can type in after X crashes, but it's not a terminal, how do we get to one from boot up?
[03:21] <flk> kitch: this is really weird it aint working with dash either...thing is i can run dash an bash fine when i call them without the chroot
[03:21] <HymnToLife> the more people will see your questions, the more likely you'll be to get an answer
[03:22] <theflyingfool> does wine cause any issues with a computer or not?
[03:22] <OmniD> Okay my friend is unable to get into his terminal and what appears is a blank screen which you can type in after X crashes, but it's not a terminal, how do we get to one from boot up?
[03:22] <HymnToLife> !repeat | OmniD
[03:22] <charlie5> does anyone know how to disable hal autodetection of usb harddrives ?
[03:22] <ubotwo> OmniD: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:22] <n2diy> ! repeat | OmniD
[03:22] <livingtm> Oh man, is there an issue with Intel EFI motherboards?
[03:22] <chris_knol> i have that screen too omniD. a blank screen i can type in, but its not a terminal
[03:22] <HymnToLife> n2diy, pwn3d :)
[03:22] <chris_knol> its after the error "no screens found"
[03:23] <OmniD> Sorry...
[03:23] <mirak> theflyingfool: it can kill your dog
[03:23] <theflyingfool> mirak: but i dont have a dog
[03:23] <n2diy> HymnToLife: ??
[03:23] <javiolo> mez how about Text::LevenshteinXS ?? thanks
[03:23] <ctothej> I need a recommendation on another music player. Amarok craps out on me...
[03:24] <ctothej> id like to be able to sync to ipod and view library
[03:24] <juliob> leaosouto: vc tem que pedir uma coisa especifica
[03:24] <mirak> theflyingfool: then you are next
[03:25] <Mez> javiolo, apt-cache search perl | grep text is your friend
[03:25] <n2diy> HymnToLife: ah, now I see, I need to tune up my keyboard.
[03:26] <fokuslee> this post sums up my gnome-setting-daemon problem any ideas? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2037958#post2037958
[03:26] <javiolo> mez thats why I ask it doesnt give nothing: sudo aptitude search perl | grep levenshteinxs
[03:27] <chris_knol> can someone help me troubleshoot an install problem please. first time installing linux.
[03:27] <n2diy> ! ask | chris_knol
[03:27] <ubotwo> chris_knol: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:27] <chiarato> phixnay: i got installed!
[03:27] <MasterOfMind> lol
[03:27] <Mez> javiolo, *shrugs*
[03:27] <Mez> cant you just use cpan ?
[03:27] <wastrel> cpan
[03:28] <chris_knol> i've asked my question. no one answers
[03:28] <chiarato> phixnay: but still couldn't connect i'm rebooting now! to see what happens
[03:28] <javiolo> mez I should use that, but I think didnt work before, thats why I prefer installing the packages...
[03:28] <chris_knol> i get a "no screens found" error when x whatever fails after choosing install
[03:28] <juliob> chris_knol: coz your question is like rocket science
[03:28] <ubuntu1> VanessaE hey what are you mean Stop Flooding here the peoples are asking for help
[03:28] <Mez> javiolo, sudo cpan -i <module. if i remember correctly
[03:28] <n2diy> chris_knol: there is a lot of traffic in here, so maybe it was missed, I didn't see it.
[03:28] <livingtm> intel DG965WH
[03:29] <VanessaE> don't repeat the same question several times in a row, that's what.
[03:29] <VanessaE> it's considered flooding, and is poor etiquette
[03:29] <oidia> how do i mount a usb memmory stick before luks loads?
[03:29] <javiolo> mez thanks
[03:29] <ubuntu1> VanessaE hmmm WOman work with LInux
[03:29] <VanessaE> yep
[03:29] <wastrel> there seem to be a lot of problems with the edgy livecd install cd thingy
[03:29] <VanessaE> for the last 10 years, give or take.
[03:29] <firephoto> livingtm: hey, i didn't get a chance to tell you, maybe you could try the edgy server install from the usb key?
[03:30] <ubuntu1> VanessaE or man with Woman nick
[03:30] <VanessaE> hardly.
[03:30] <Textboo1> wastrel: I've had no problems with it
[03:30] <mikey> speaking of usb keys, can you run ubuntu from one?
[03:30] <firephoto> livingtm: it's smaller, then update it to ubuntu-desktop once it's installed.
[03:30] <ubuntu1> VanessaE 10 year but UBuntu isn't existed yet
[03:30] <livingtm> firephoto, hey i just got edgy installed using a USB key.. bot now i got another huge problem... grub doesnt boot
[03:30] <VanessaE> you said linux, not ubuntu specifically.
[03:30] <ubuntu1> VanessaE hmmm ok
[03:30] <firephoto> livingtm: oh, just look on the wiki for restoring grub. that should get you going.
[03:30] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[03:31] <ubuntu1> VanessaE and how are you going with LInux,in what family you are working.
[03:31] <VanessaE> eh?
[03:31] <livingtm> firephoto, grub installs, ive done it manually 2 or 3 times and it says it was successful. i get a black screen.. no errors
[03:31] <wastrel> probably meant compnay
[03:31] <ubuntu1> VanessaE in what families of LInux you know to work
[03:31] <chris_knol> hmm. private messages are blocked from unregistered users
[03:31] <chris_knol> never noticed that one
[03:31] <firephoto> livingtm: make sure you have ahci enabled in the bios too. not sure if it's going to affect grub though
[03:31] <ubuntu1> wastrel read man read.
[03:31] <Chest> anyone know why I can't browse a ntfs filesystem with the Ubuntu live cd?
[03:32] <VanessaE> n2diy, I don't know about whatever you might be using for a desktop, but in KDE at least, there are two separate sections regarding file associations, one concerns local files, and the other, remote files.
[03:32] <mikey> has anyone run ubuntu from a usb key? can i do this rather than installing on my hard drive?
[03:32] <livingtm> firephoto, ahci? what is that
[03:32] <ubuntu1> VanessaE and your office work with LInux./
[03:32] <chris_knol> n2diy my message is "failed to start the x server. then after, in details, says no devices detected. fatal server error. no screens found
[03:32] <firephoto> livingtm: it's the setting in the bios that says vista only. it has to to do with the sata.
[03:32] <_james> kitche: how long does it take to you to upgrade to edgy? like how many hours
[03:32] <livingtm> im installing off of a live cd copied to a usb key right now
[03:32] <wastrel> !offtopic | ubuntu1
[03:32] <ubotwo> ubuntu1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:32] <VanessaE> ubuntu: slackware, redhat (pre-fedora), gentoo, debian (barely), mandrake (pre-mandriva), and of course ubuntu, off the top of my head.
[03:33] <livingtm> firephoto, oh shit that sounds like a likely suspect
[03:33] <VanessaE> I don't work in an office (disabled).
[03:33] <n2diy> VanessaE: Cool, finally a clue to pursue. I'm in gnome, but I'll explore it, tell the other guy you started out with sys v! :)
[03:33] <livingtm> firephoto, although it came with XP on it
[03:33] <ubuntu1> !offtopic | wasrel
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | livingtm
[03:33] <ubotwo> wasrel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:33] <ubotwo> livingtm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:33] <ubuntu1> !offtopic | wastrel
[03:33] <ubotwo> wastrel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:33] <VanessaE> I started with freebsd actually (4.1 I think?) , but moved to linux fairly quickly.
[03:34] <ubuntu1> wastrel she started fist .
[03:34] <n2diy> chris_knol: ok, ask the list in general, I didn't have any trouble getting X working here, so I have no experience with your problem.
[03:34] <ubuntu1> VanessaE do you accept private msg.
[03:34] <Smirnov> can i run 2 (gnome) desktops under 2 different users .. without 2 x servers?
[03:34] <VanessaE> ubuntu1, I'd prefer not to, thanks.
[03:34] <ubuntu1> Smirnov Vodak
[03:34] <chris_knol> i cant install edgy. message after choosing install is "failed to start the x server. then after, in details, says no devices detected. fatal server error. no screens found
[03:34] <livingtm> firephoto, ill have to look again but that doesnt sound like a familiar bios option.
[03:34] <ubuntu1> VanessaE pfuu sorry i don't search woman
[03:34] <chris_knol> if anyone can help, please,
[03:35] <chris_knol> i have no experience with linux
[03:35] <jimcooncat> Smirnov, maybe xnest might be fun for something like that?
[03:35] <ubuntu1> VanessaE ok bye.
[03:35] <n2diy> Where can I set file associations in gnome?
[03:35] <VanessaE> chris: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you change the Device section to something generic like "vga" or "vesa" does that work?
[03:35] <ubuntu1> VanessaE did you try dvi .
[03:35] <chris_knol> how do i get to my etc/x11/etc etc etc
[03:36] <cew_smk> #surabaya
[03:36] <Smirnov> jimcooncat: thanks ill play with that
[03:36] <wastrel> chris_knol:  welcome to the world of linux configuration files :] 
[03:36] <chris_knol> this was supposed to be an easy, gui installer lol
[03:36] <jimcooncat> Smirnov, I'd like to do that myself keep one side business, other side browsing and chat
[03:36] <VanessaE> n2diy,   ://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/ubuntu-linux-file-associations/
[03:36] <wastrel> chris_knol:  the edgy cd has some problems it seems with certain hardware
[03:36] <chris_knol> how do i get to a command line from booting to the install CD. thats the only way i could browse files i guess
[03:36] <VanessaE> err
[03:36] <hexidigital> chris_knol::  define easy :)
[03:36] <VanessaE> add an 'http' in front of that.
[03:37] <chris_knol> i'm using a pci express x300 video card. would i have better luck switching to onboard intel video?
[03:37] <Smirnov> jimcooncat: well i need to run 2 different users, for what you need is enough simply workspaces :P
[03:37] <n2diy> VanessaE:  if that is supposed to be a link, it is broken.
[03:37] <VanessaE> n2: sorry about that
[03:37] <VanessaE> http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/ubuntu-linux-file-associations/
[03:37] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to change what sound setting a volume up key on a keyboard changes, it brings up the volume thing and changesa setting but not the proper one
[03:37] <VanessaE> there
[03:37] <n2diy> VanessaE:  tnx.
[03:37] <jimcooncat> Smirnov, I want to share my work side with my coworkers
[03:38] <seamus7> what is the correct format for specifying display and screen?  display: 0    screen: 0.0  ??
[03:38] <VanessaE> theflyingfool, that can't be changed yet (it's handled by kmilo)
[03:38] <jimcooncat> Smirnov, we use VNC a lot there
[03:38] <theflyingfool> VanessaE: kmilo is kde only?
[03:38] <VanessaE> er, right.  sorry, forgot :)
[03:39] <StraightShooter>               is anyone in here halfway good with fglrx?
[03:39] <livingtm> firephoto, "Configure sata as:" options are "IDE, RAID, AHCI" and IDE was selected
[03:39] <chris_knol> should i try an older version of ubuntu
[03:39] <VanessaE> (I really should learn gnome)
[03:39] <chris_knol> instead of 6.10 try the older one
[03:39] <chris_knol> does that CD have less "bugs:" maybe
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> StraightShooter: The better question would be is fglrx halfway good :S
[03:39] <chris_knol> i thought i had integrated video as an option, turns out i'm stuck with my x300
[03:39] <firephoto> livingtm: it's a lone option somewhere. let me look at mine..
[03:39] <Chest> how can I view the contents of an ntfs filesystem with the live cd.  It's mounted as root and sudo'ing doesn't help.
[03:40] <Textboo1> mine shows up as sda1
[03:40] <juliob> chris_knol: you do get a GUI when you install?  but not after?
[03:40] <firephoto> livingtm: have you checked the bios updates for that board?
[03:40] <livingtm> firephoto, no i havent
[03:40] <StraightShooter> tonyyarusso,,, i know it isn't... but i got it working properly RIGHT NOW... via a very strange method that is more voodoo than science... and while it is working, I hope to ask some questions.   Is there a guru in the house?
[03:40] <fokuslee> this post sums up my problem plz help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342289
[03:40] <jimcooncat> chris_knol, maybe the alternate cd would be better (?)
[03:41] <firephoto> livingtm: it's under Advanced, Drive Configuration, Configure SATA as <AHCI>
[03:41] <livingtm> firephoto, i DONT want ahci right?
[03:42] <user01> whats up with all my menu "r"s in openoffice?  they all look like ns like on insert, it looks like insent
[03:42] <firephoto> livingtm: no, turn it on
[03:42] <mikey_la> how can i setup vnc/remote desktop on kubuntu so that i can connect to the gui from a different pc?
[03:42] <ubuntu1> hey no w i installled squirrelmail 1.4.9 version and then update came and say that there is squirrelmail version 1.4.8
[03:42] <Joe_CoT> .
[03:42] <livingtm> firephoto, ah ok
[03:42] <ubuntu1> who make this squirrelmail that bad
[03:43] <livingtm> firephoto, will i need to reinstall?
[03:43] <firephoto> livingtm: no
[03:43] <livingtm> firephoto, no luck.. black screen on powerup
[03:44] <StraightShooter> No ATI fglrx geniuses in the house?
[03:44] <firephoto> livingtm: what happens when you boot a cd and choose to boot first disk or whatever the option is?
[03:44] <livingtm> firephoto, same thing.. black screen
[03:44] <Judicata> StraightShooter: I don't know about genius, but I use it.
[03:44] <user01> can you submit screenshot bugs?
[03:44] <StraightShooter> Judicata  what card?
[03:44] <Judicata> StraightShooter: whats the probelm?
[03:45] <pagefault> hehe all the geniouses got an nvidia card
[03:45] <wastrel> genius
[03:45] <Judicata> StraightShooter: Radeon 9000 (thinkpad t40)
[03:45] <firephoto> livingtm: sounds like maybe you should try feisty.
[03:45] <livingtm> firephoto, interesting though, now in that drive configuration, it shows no SATA drives installed
[03:45] <p47> juliob: hey !
[03:45] <p47> clear
[03:45] <Judicata> StraightShooter: whats your problem?
[03:45] <juliob> p47: que onda hombre
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> user01: I don't know of a way to attach them in LP, but you can upload and link
[03:45] <StraightShooter> pagefault... I HAVE a nvidia card.. i'm building a hand-me-down system for a relative
[03:45] <p47> juliob: por que no me dijiste que hablas espaol ?
[03:45] <p47> juliob: jajaj
[03:46] <pagefault> StraightShooter: I would remove that ati junk from it asap and get them a cheap nv card to be honest
[03:46] <juliob> p47: i speak many languages
[03:46] <pagefault> fglrx is nothing but problems
[03:46] <p47> juliob: lol
[03:46] <StraightShooter> the problem is that after installing, and restarting X, the screen gets all washed out... like the gamma is turned way up
[03:46] <p47> juliob: ok ya pude entrar con usuario y pass y ver que esta la carpeta que quiero compartir, pero no puedo accesar a la carpeta que quiero
[03:46] <firephoto> livingtm: http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dg965wh/tools.htm bios update, recent one(s)
[03:46] <p47> juliob: me dice que no puedo
[03:46] <StraightShooter> i'm not spending money on these ppl... they're inlaws
[03:46] <p47> juliob: por que sera ?
[03:47] <wastrel> !english
[03:47] <ubotwo> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:47] <Judicata> StraightShooter: can you pastebin your /X11/xorg.conf?
[03:47] <StraightShooter> yes, sure
[03:47] <juliob> p47: so you can list the contents of the share and see files and folders?
[03:47] <StraightShooter> !pastebin
[03:47] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <livingtm> firephoto, yeah im lookin at that right now
[03:47] <StraightShooter> i'd forgotten the addy
[03:47] <juliob> p47: i'll speak english to calm the natives down :)
[03:47] <Judicata> user01: does this happen in other apps, or just openoffice?
[03:48] <p47> juliob: no I can't enter to the folder ! just I can see the folder that I want to enter but I cant enter
[03:48] <p47> juliob: jajaja ok !
[03:48] <_james> how long does it  takes to upgrade to edgy? for like how many hours?
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> _james: Depends on your connection.  On dialup, about four or five days ;)
[03:49] <juliob> p47: i'm confused with the terminology we're using.  are you trying to go into \\server\share\folder or \\server\share and you get permission denied?
[03:49] <HymnToLife> DEPENDS ON HOW FAST YOUR NET CONNECTION IS
[03:49] <Judicata> _james: from my experience, on a good connection, not long at all - maybe an hour?
[03:49] <_james> im on a dsl
[03:49] <HymnToLife> sorry, capslock enabled
[03:49] <lilly> During boot uspash screen, my system pauses at "Configuring NEtwork Interfaces" for quite some time.. how can i make it faster? thanks!
[03:49] <kitche> _james took me 2 hours on verizon dsl
[03:49] <_james> ok
[03:49] <p47> juliob: the firts !
[03:49] <ircleuser> hey everyone...could anyone point me in the direction of a set of instructions for doing a fresh install of a dualboot XP and unbuntu on a formatted drive?
[03:50] <blanky> yo guys, I set up some buttons in my mouse (Razer) to do back/forward in firefox, it works, but nautilus doesn't do the same, how cna I set that up?
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | ircleuser
[03:50] <blanky> lilly: are you on wireless?
[03:50] <ubotwo> ircleuser: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:50] <Judicata> ircleuser: you mean a drive with nothing on t?
[03:50] <p47> juliob: but I cant enter in to share.. I wanto to view my files you know !
[03:50] <Judicata> ircleuser: install XP first (if you MUST dual boot), and then follow that link.
[03:50] <lilly> blanky: yes im on wireless
[03:50] <ircleuser> it has xp on it now..but im going to format it so i can have a fresh install of both
[03:50] <ircleuser> ok cool thanks ill check it out :)
[03:51] <blanky> lilly: Sorry I wouldn't know, I'm wired. Maybe someone else can help though, try re-asking your question.
[03:51] <Judicata> ircleuser: you can't install XP second - its greedy and wipes everything out.
[03:51] <p47> juliob: I can see with ls -l that all those files in the folder "share" has an other owner.... example
[03:51] <blanky> !recoverwindows | Judicata
[03:51] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:51] <StraightShooter> Judicata  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2215/
[03:51] <blanky> !recoverubuntu
[03:51] <HymnToLife> Judicata, wrong, it just wipes GRUB out, and it's very easy to reinstall it
[03:51] <pagefault> sure you can install XP after linux
[03:51] <p47> juliob: I have 13 users and.. all those users are in the same group
[03:51] <pagefault> back up your MBR
[03:51] <blanky> !recoverubuntuafterinstallingwindows
[03:51] <HymnToLife> !grub
[03:51] <ubotwo> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:51] <Judicata> lol
[03:51] <blanky> maaaaaaan ubotu what's up dude
[03:51] <blanky> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:51] <blanky> that! :D
[03:52] <juliob> p47: yeah i understand.   this is where i don't know any more than you do unfortunately.  i only just started using samba and i don't know how to deal with permissions.
[03:52] <blanky> ROFL, I mean
[03:52] <Judicata> HymnToLife: blanky: ok, thanks for the correction. Didn't this use to be the case?
[03:52] <blanky> p47: como te va!
[03:52] <ircleuser> i have no problem installing xp first...ill let the greedy pig have her way :)
[03:52] <wastrel> ircle is a mac client
[03:52] <blanky> Judicata: actually that wiki page has always been there, but you're right in a way, it's pretty complicated to get back, but you can get it back nonetheless
[03:52] <wastrel> i used to use it in the olden days
[03:52] <blanky> Judicata: so yeah, just suggest them to install windows first
[03:52] <p47> blanky: muy bien gracias.. aqui tratando de solucionar un problemilla con samba ! ja !
[03:52] <blanky> p47: todavia jaja
[03:53] <p47> juliob: ok ! so thank's !
[03:53] <blanky> p47: si saves quien soy verdad?
[03:53] <juliob> p47: buena suerte
[03:53] <p47> blanky: si no mamaes
[03:53] <blanky> jaja
[03:53] <p47> blanky: claro wey !
[03:53] <blanky> !botsnack
[03:53] <ubotwo> Yum!
[03:53] <kitche> !english
[03:53] <ubotwo> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:53] <StraightShooter> Judicata... keep in mind that is my xorg.conf's current status... I've been mucking about with it for a while
[03:53] <chris_knol> k i've been given advice. go use fedora instead
[03:53] <blanky> sorry ubotwo, you can have your red neck back
[03:53] <chris_knol> so ill try that
[03:53] <chris_knol> later all
[03:53] <chris_knol> thanks
[03:53] <pagefault> StraightShooter: what exactly is your problem with fglrx
[03:53] <Judicata> blanky: I meant like, 8 years ago... I quit using linux for a few years and I'm back, so some of my info is outdated... but meh.
[03:53] <pagefault> StraightShooter: I used to run a 9800 pro
[03:54] <Judicata> StraightShooter: ok, got it.
[03:54] <blanky> Judicata: ohhh haha I thought you meant with ubuntu, I wouldn't know sorry, I just got into linux about 4 years ago
[03:54] <StraightShooter> my problem is the monitor is extremely high gamma looking.  I've got the TV-out working like a charm
[03:54] <pagefault> StraightShooter: have you tried the fglrxconfig util
[03:54] <Jillian> Hello
[03:54] <blanky> sup Jillian
[03:54] <wastrel> you have a question from 8 years ago Judicata ?
[03:54] <juliob> !spanish
[03:54] <ubotwo> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:54] <blanky> LOL
[03:54] <pagefault> there is some GUI config tool that lets you adjust gamma
[03:54] <blanky> juliob: why'd you do that?
[03:55] <wastrel> what's gamma?
[03:55] <StraightShooter> fglrx-config is not working... says its not found... i dunno.
[03:55] <Judicata> wastrel: no, its nothing - I was just thinking that you always had to install windows first on a dual boot or you were screwed. but no big deal.
[03:55] <blanky> wastrel: google 'define:gamma'
[03:55] <juliob> blanky: i'm curious.  if english works, why not another language :)
[03:55] <StraightShooter> been messing with  aticonfig
[03:55] <pagefault> you may have to compile it yourself
[03:55] <kristjans> Hi! I am installing Ubuntu on a desktop PC, and it started freeing up space in its HDD... It has been doing something for 15 minutes, but still no results, isn't that too long time period for partitioning? It was much quicker on my laptop...
[03:55] <pagefault> it's in /usr/src/fglrx
[03:55] <blanky> juliob: haha yeah another language does work...unfortunately
[03:55] <pagefault> you need the qt headers
[03:55] <kitche> kristjans: depedns how big the driver is and such
[03:55] <StraightShooter> its working correctly right now, but you'd never believe what I gotta go thru to get it on right
[03:55] <wastrel> kristjans:  it depends on the size of the hard drive and whether you defragmented first and other such things.
[03:56] <StraightShooter> and if i restart X it is back to crap
[03:56] <Judicata> StraightShooter: Well, with the fgrlx + ati you should probably disable composite. I can give you the code. But I doubt thats the cause of this particular problem.
[03:56] <pagefault> it's odd you get weird colours though
[03:56] <blanky> kristjans: yeah it probably is, then again it does take a while, are you doing a clean install or a dual boot?
[03:56] <livingtm> firephoto, ok, just updated
[03:56] <kristjans> HDD is 100 GB, on my laptop it's 80 GB...
[03:56] <pagefault> maybe the refresh is too high?
[03:56] <StraightShooter> isn't the composite part of the TV-out?
[03:56] <blanky> kristjans: I'd give it a bit more, but that has been a long time though
[03:56] <blanky> kristjans: probably 5-10 minutes more, if still nothing, try again. If you keep getting problems, I suggest you try the alternate install disk
[03:56] <livingtm> firephoto, no luck.. rebooted and still nothing
[03:56] <kitche> StraightShooter: nope since composite can't work with ATI
[03:57] <kristjans> Okay, thanks
[03:57] <blanky> krinns: no problem, let us know if anything goes wrong
[03:57] <StraightShooter> ok... how do you disable it?
[03:57] <Judicata> StraightShooter: no, i don't think so.
[03:57] <blanky> !xorg | StraightShooter
[03:57] <ubotwo> StraightShooter: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:57] <blanky> wait waht the heck, sorry, wrong command
[03:57] <pagefault> composite should be disabled by default
[03:57] <pagefault> since fglrx doesn't support it
[03:57] <kitche> StraightShooter: in your xorg.conf find the composite line and add 0 instead of true
[03:57] <blanky> StraightShooter: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <LaserLine> How do I delete a locked file on my desktop?
[03:57] <kristjans> BTW the USB devices didn't work either... I fonud an old USB to P/S2 converter for keyboard and then both mouse and keyboard began working. Is it some kind of a bug?
[03:57] <blanky> StraightShooter: look for 'composite', see if it's enabled
[03:57] <Judicata> StraightShooter: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2216/
[03:58] <blanky> if it's not there then it probably means it's disabled, don't know
[03:58] <firephoto> livingtm: do a feisty install from the daily-live, that's your best bet. just have to watch the updates carefully would be the biggest issue.
[03:58] <pagefault> since fglrx doesn't support it
[03:58] <Judicata> blanky: you have to disable it, (from my fglrx experience, anyway...could be wrong)
[03:58] <kitche> LaserLine: sudo rm <file> it's probably owned by root probably
[03:58] <pagefault> I doubt it's the problem or enabled
[03:58] <blanky> Judicata: never said you didn't haha
[03:59] <Judicata> blanky: I meant that, if you don't explicitly disable it, it is enabled :)
[03:59] <kitche> StraightShooter: what does fglrxinfo say or glxinfo says for rendering?
[03:59] <pagefault> there was some cmd line util to set gamma too
[03:59] <pagefault> I forget the name
[03:59] <blanky> Judicata: oohh haha
[03:59] <blanky> Judicata: yeah I just checked, mine's explicitly disabled
[04:00] <StraightShooter> ok... gonna try that... restarting x
[04:00] <LaserLine> kitche: thanks...I removed one file, but hte other is a directory... how do i delete that
[04:00] <Judicata> blanky: I really wish we could all just use the OSS driver and be happy (I recently switched to fglrx for external monitor and 3D issues....very reluctantly).
[04:00] <blanky> Section "Extensions" \n Option "Composite" "0" \n EndSection
[04:00] <blanky> Judicata: there's an OSS driver?
[04:00] <kitche> LaserLine: rmdir(directory has to be empty) or rm -r <dir>
[04:00] <blanky> Judicata: I just use the one in the repositories
[04:00] <Judicata> blanky: the "ati" driver
[04:00] <blanky> oh, right
[04:00] <blanky> well it doesn't really perform how I'd like it to
[04:01] <blanky> installing ati drivers on ubuntu used to be very easy back in 4.*/5.*
[04:01] <Judicata> exactly - its getting better, and I wish it did.
[04:01] <livingtm> firephoto, okay, burning the feisty cd as we speak... time for another beer :-)
[04:01] <LaserLine> kitche: -r worked like a charm... thanks
[04:01] <kristjans> wasn't there an ati driver installer in automatix2?
[04:01] <Judicata> livingtm: beer + feisty sounds dangerous :)
[04:01] <wastrel> i have fglrx
[04:01] <blanky> kristjans: not all of us like that, in fact...
[04:02] <blanky> !automatix | kristjans
[04:02] <ubotwo> kristjans: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:02] <kitche> kristjans: probably but automatix2 is bad
[04:02] <kristjans> oay
[04:02] <kristjans> okay*
[04:02] <Judicata> Automatix works fine for me out a handful of laptops, but..... I know I'm fighting an uphill battle
[04:02] <livingtm> Judicata, we'll see i guess  :-)
[04:02] <blanky> I like easyubuntu, but I only use these for simple things, not drivers and what not
[04:03] <livingtm> What happened to Beryl?!?!?! It keeps wquiting on me since the last update! I NEED MY WOBBLY WINDOWS!
[04:03] <MasterOfMind> you mean windblows
[04:03] <blanky> livingtm: #beryl, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:03] <MasterOfMind> winblows
[04:03] <livingtm> haha
[04:03] <blanky> MasterOfMind: he said windows, not Microsoft Windows
[04:03] <Judicata> livingtm: not the first person I've heard with that problem. You might just have to wait for a fix.
[04:03] <livingtm> blanky, dont want to deal with it? :-)
[04:03] <StraightShooter> didn't work... very washed out... hard to see your names... brb... gonna smoke
[04:04] <livingtm> guess so.. but .1.4 was working So nicely.. i had to be selfish and update...
[04:04] <Judicata> StraightShooter: did you try the default ati / radeon drivers? Ok...
[04:05] <kristjans> oh and is it possible to set up something that would be like msn 7.5 on linux?
[04:05] <Judicata> kristjans: what does that do?
[04:05] <kristjans> handwriting/custom emoticons...? aMSN i guess?
[04:05] <MasterOfMind> wine?
[04:06] <kristjans> okay, i'll give it a try
[04:06] <blanky> kristjans: gaim
[04:06] <Judicata> kristjans: an instant messenger? gaim - supports all kinds of stuff (msn, yahoo, aim, irc...)
[04:06] <MasterOfMind> yup i use gaim
[04:07] <kristjans> isn't the custom emoticon support in gaim weird?
[04:07] <Judicata> kristjans: dunno, not a big emoticon-customizer :)
[04:07] <kristjans> neither am i, that's why i am asking ;)
[04:08] <blanky> i like gaim's emoticons, they're exactly the ones from the actual messengers :)
[04:08] <Judicata> kristjans: I can see multipe emotican themes and such, but I've no idea o ncustomizing.
[04:08] <blanky> i can't live wthout my msn emoticons
[04:08] <dhi-dhi> JAKARTA
[04:09] <kristjans> i am setting up an ubuntu environment for my mom, and i know she'd hate to be left without custom emoticons
[04:09] <Judicata> kristjans: custom...like going into gimp or photoshop and making your own? or just changing the theme? gaim has a bunch of themes.
[04:10] <kristjans> custom as you go to photoshop, make your emoticon and send it... and everyone sees it. and you see the emoticons made by the other people.
[04:10] <kristjans> gimp* sorry
[04:10] <kristjans> ;)
[04:10] <StraightShooter> ok... back
[04:10] <kristjans> most people who use custom emoticons use photoshop though.
[04:10] <Judicata> can't help you there, kristjans
[04:10] <Judicata> StraightShooter: ok, are you sure you need the fglrx driver?
[04:11] <kristjans> i know gaim supports them to some extent
[04:11] <livingtm> firephoto, okay here we go
[04:11] <juan> can i use luminocity in ububuntu
[04:11] <Judicata> juan: what's that?
[04:11] <StraightShooter> right now, in order to get it to work... i have to plug the monitor into the DVI port, using a dvi to hd15 adaptor... and restart x... after a few minutes, the tty will come up and tell me that X crashed.  Then I switch the cable back and type (blind) startx... and it comes up correctly
[04:12] <juan> is a 3d animation interface for gnome
[04:12] <logan> hola algien que hable espaol???
[04:12] <arrenlex> !es | logan
[04:12] <ubotwo> logan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:12] <juan> http://live.gnome.org/Luminocity
[04:12] <wastrel> !es | logan
[04:12] <juan> yo hablo espaol
[04:12] <Judicata> juan: i'm looking at it now...
[04:12] <juan> http://live.gnome.org/Luminocity
[04:12] <arrenlex> Hey, wastrel. How'd the radeon thing go?
[04:12] <juan> here!
[04:12] <juan> here http://live.gnome.org/Luminocity
[04:12] <mage___> oh god, you guys over use bots as well
[04:12] <wastrel> arrenlex:  it works
[04:12] <juan> how
[04:13] <arrenlex> wastrel: Radeon?
[04:13] <Judicata> juan: have you looked at beryl instad?
[04:13] <wastrel> yes
[04:13] <logan> hola juan,
[04:13] <arrenlex> wastrel: But I assume you want fglrx?
[04:13] <logan> de dodne eres?
[04:13] <arrenlex> !hi | mage__
[04:13] <ubotwo> mage__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:13] <logan>  '<
[04:13] <juan> hola logan
[04:13] <StraightShooter> anyone have any other ideas other than disabling composite?
[04:13] <arrenlex> StraightShooter: What problems?
[04:13] <wastrel> arrenlex:  yes but i realize i won't need 3d for a while since i'm not doing visualization stuff lately
[04:13] <TheDebugger> Luminocity is dead
[04:14] <arrenlex> wastrel: What version did you have?
[04:14] <StraightShooter> hey arrenlex... i got a washed out high gamma looking monitor after installing fglrx
[04:14] <Judicata> StraightShooter: I'm thinking, and I'm just lost.
[04:14] <juan> nop
[04:14] <wastrel> arrenlex:  whatever's current in edgy
[04:14] <Judicata> StraightShooter: what happens when you use the "ati" driver?
[04:14] <arrenlex> wastrel: There's a newer one out on ati.amd.com. You could try that. It's 8.33 or something.
[04:15] <StraightShooter> works fine, just can't use the TV-out.... if not for the TV-out, I'd be using the onboard
[04:15] <Judicata> StraightShooter: and I guess the tv-out is important for the in-laws?
[04:15] <StraightShooter> yup
[04:15] <wastrel> arrenlex:  i think i'll just reboot when i need 3d :] 
[04:15] <Judicata> hmm....
[04:15] <mage___> would ubuntu work okay if /usr is mounted read only off of a server? or does running some apps require write ability to /usr
[04:16] <arrenlex> wastrel: *shrug* your call.
[04:16] <arrenlex> wastrel: Are you sure radeon doesn't give you 3D? What card?
[04:16] <logan> hey
[04:16] <wastrel> arrenlex:  it does give me 3d but it doesn't perform well  i have a radeon 9600 mobile
[04:16] <arrenlex> wastrel: Ah. Yeah.
[04:17] <StraightShooter> I could make a script, with two different xorg.conf's... and swap them and restart x... but thats not really fixing the problem... its just a bandaid
[04:17] <livingtm> firephoto, Man the fiesty live cd booted great, but the installer goes Ape-sh..
[04:18] <firephoto> livingtm: go to #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <livingtm> firephoto, enter the keyboard type and hit next and the screen goes crazy
[04:18] <StraightShooter> unless it is somehow possible to use the monitor on the onboard and the TV on the radeon
[04:18] <Somebodyelse> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2029930
[04:19] <Somebodyelse> can anybody help please?
[04:19] <Somebodyelse> i urgently need 3D acceleration
[04:19] <wastrel> i urgently need $3000 usd
[04:20] <Somebodyelse> yeah
[04:20] <Somebodyelse> who doesn't need cash
[04:20] <Somebodyelse> but i do NEED to have my 3D acceleration up and running
[04:20] <Judicata> StraightShooter: I might have found a fix... hold on.
[04:20] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Yes. It's super easy.
[04:20] <StraightShooter> oooooh
[04:20] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Add this to the end of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
[04:20] <Somebodyelse> really?
[04:20] <StraightShooter> :D
[04:21] <arrenlex> Section "Extensions"
[04:21] <arrenlex>         Option "Composite" "Disable"
[04:21] <arrenlex> EndSection
[04:21] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Then restart X.
[04:21] <Judicata> StraightShooter: what was the link to your xorg.conf again?
[04:21] <kitche> arrenlex: thought it's 0 instead of disable?
[04:21] <StraightShooter> couldn't tell ya.. i reloaded x and lost it
[04:21] <Judicata> ok, np.
[04:22] <Judicata> !pastebin
[04:22] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:22] <Somebodyelse> when you say restart X, does it mean Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[04:22] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Sure, you can do that.
[04:23] <Somebodyelse> i can still use beryl with that right?
[04:23] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Hmmm... you might have problems with beryl.
[04:23] <Somebodyelse> ok
[04:23] <Judicata> StraightShooter: scratch that...nevermind.
[04:23] <StraightShooter> got it ... it was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2215/
[04:24] <Somebodyelse> i just restarted X
[04:25] <StraightShooter> decide it wouldn't help?
[04:25] <Somebodyelse> the thing about XFree86 has disappeared
[04:25] <Somebodyelse> but it still is rendering with Mesa
[04:25] <oFF-beAt> when i was movies in full screen.. it's no very smooth.. i can see the frames skippin...
[04:25] <oFF-beAt> anybody know how to fix this
[04:25] <oFF-beAt> ?
[04:25] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: a) what does xfree86 have to do with anything? b) are you using xorg, xgl, what? c) you will need to use xgl to run beryl under fglrx, so google says.
[04:25] <blueprints88888_> If anyone can point me in the right direction on how to install Alsa midi subsystem,please help :)
[04:25] <Somebodyelse> i'm still using xorg
[04:26] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Please pastebin a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:26] <Somebodyelse> i want to try beryl, that's one of the reasons for getting 3D accel up
[04:26] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: You will need xgl for beryl on fglrx, it seems.
[04:26] <breeder18> has anyone installed warcraft 3 with ubuntu edgy wine?
[04:27] <Somebodyelse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2220/
[04:27] <Somebodyelse> yeah, but installing beryl without the ATi rendering would kill my processor
[04:27] <Eaglewolf> I'm trying to use debootstrap to install ubuntu on one of my systems, and I get an error "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc". I checked the debootstrap bug list and saw it there, but I was wondering if anyone knows how to get past that
[04:27] <Smirnov> how do i add delays in gdm.conf between the X server startups
[04:27] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please?
[04:27] <StraightShooter> Grrr... i'm beginning to think this is hopeless... the fact that I can trick it into working is just depressing, because I know my inlaws can't handle that.
[04:28] <kitche> Eaglewolf: mount -t proc proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc try that
[04:28] <Judicata> StraightShooter: sorry man.
[04:28] <Somebodyelse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2221/
[04:29] <oFF-beAt> i have problems with full screen videos.. any help?
[04:29] <Eaglewolf> kitche: It's not a command I'm doing, it's the debootstrap script
[04:29] <StraightShooter> They're straight out of "My Name is Earl"
[04:29] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Ah. You have a different error now.
[04:29] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: 993.  (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[04:29] <arrenlex> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[04:29] <Judicata> StraightShooter: lol. here is someone with a similar problem, and a possible fix: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-406307-highlight-ati+colors.html
[04:29] <Somebodyelse> ah
[04:29] <Somebodyelse> AIGLX
[04:29] <Somebodyelse> what's that error then?
[04:30] <StraightShooter> thanx... I'll read it
[04:30] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: I don't know this error, unfortunately. What version of fglrx are you using?
[04:30] <kitche> Eaglewolf: yes I know but the script is trying to mount proc when chrooting it's sorta bad to do it that way since proc should be mounted before it chroots
[04:30] <Somebodyelse> 8.32.5
[04:30] <Somebodyelse> does it have to do with installing Beryl?
[04:31] <blueprints88888> phixnay ah, i c. sorry i wish i could help out more but im still a learning linux and ubuntu myself,
[04:31] <wastrel> i thought beryl wouldn't run on fglrx
[04:31] <Eaglewolf> kitche: ok
[04:31] <Somebodyelse> i heard it does
[04:31] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: I don't know = / I'm looking up that error on google and have gotten a few interesting results. Maybe you should, too.
[04:31] <blueprints88888> can anyone show tell me how to install the full Alsa midi subsystem????
[04:31] <arrenlex> wastrel: There are shady google guides to get beryl+xgl running.
[04:31] <Judicata> StraightShooter: try the "sw cursor" work around mentioned, and see if that fixes it. otherwise, you might try to install the driver from the ati website.
[04:32] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Are you 32-bit or 64?
[04:32] <SirWellington> Yo
[04:33] <SirWellington> Anyone alive, I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to allow 2 different audio things playing at one time.
[04:33] <SirWellington> IE gaim + audacious.
[04:33] <Eaglewolf> kitche: still fails
[04:33] <SirWellington> Only ONE will play vs the other
[04:33] <arrenlex> SirWellington: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?title=DmixPlugin
[04:33] <nemik> hello, how can i see what ports are currently taken and how I can free them?
[04:35] <SirWellington> thanks arrenlex, I shall examine this. >_>
[04:35] <Somebodyelse> 32
[04:35] <StraightShooter> ok... trying it...
[04:35] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Hmm... well, google your error. Sorry I can't be much help... at least you've made progress. :)
[04:35] <Somebodyelse> googling
[04:35] <Somebodyelse> thanks anyway
[04:36] <MegaTrousers> I have a directory of tar.gz access logs. How can I search their contents to list all entries containing any address within a specific address block? I am guessing tar xOzf *.tar.gz | something?
[04:37] <ubuntu1> how to copy one archive
[04:37] <ubuntu1> to one direcotry
[04:37] <ubuntu1> directory
[04:37] <MegaTrousers> cp src dest
[04:37] <wastrel> MegaTrousers:  zgrep
[04:37] <MegaTrousers> wastrel: Thank you.
[04:37] <SirWellington> Quick question  arrenlex do I need to reset in order to test to see,
[04:38] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: are you trying ati+aiglx+beryl? Or fglrx+xgl+beryl?
[04:38] <arrenlex> SirWellington: You will need to restart alsa. sudo /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[04:38] <ubuntu1> Thanks MegaTrousers
[04:38] <Somebodyelse> fglrx currently, just uninstalled beryl
[04:38] <MegaTrousers> ubuntu1: np
[04:38] <SirWellington> ahh, its just a init.d k.
[04:38] <blueprints88888> What command do i type in to find out what kind of sound card i have?????????????????????
[04:38] <Somebodyelse> i'd rather have the 3d accel than beryl
[04:39] <Somebodyelse> beryl is just something i'd like to try out
[04:39] <Somebodyelse> but without 3d accel, my proc is dying
[04:39] <kevinh90> i have beryl
[04:39] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: you posted your xorg.conf earlier right?
[04:39] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: lspci | grep audio
[04:39] <ieldib> anyone here use mono-devel
[04:39] <ieldib> ?
[04:39] <kevinh90> but yes, i would never attempt beryl without direct rendering and 3d accell
[04:39] <blueprints88888> arrenlex Thank You
[04:39] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: Also, please, please cut down on your question marks. It is incredibly obnoxious
[04:40] <Eaglewolf> Are there any ubuntu install disks that use the 2.4 kernel on the livecd? My system can't boot 2.6 because it won't boot off a pcmcia cdrom
[04:40] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: I found it.
[04:40] <kiamo> how do I install libpng and libpng-dev?
[04:40] <ieldib> If anyone here uses mono i'd greatly appreciate it if they told me howto bring up the designer
[04:40] <blueprints88888> will do. um, if nothing happens, does that mean my driver for my card isnt loaded?
[04:40] <wastrel> Eaglewolf:  ugh i ended up installing debian for just that reason :] 
[04:40] <arrenlex> kiamo: apt-get install libpng12-0 libpng12-dev
[04:40] <arrenlex> kiamo: apt-cache search is your friend :)
[04:41] <kiamo> thanks arrenlex :)
[04:41] <Eaglewolf> I have debian installed and I tried using debootstrap to install ubuntu but it's giving me an error and I can't get any further
[04:41] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: If nothing happens, it means that your lspci isn't formatted like mine is, and you should just run "lspci" and look through everything it manually to find your sound card.
[04:41] <Eaglewolf> I really want to get unbuntu on this box instead of debian
[04:42] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: You could also try running "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[04:42] <blueprints88888> arrenlex ok thanks iwill try that
[04:42] <blueprints88888> ok i will try both
[04:42] <arrenlex> Eaglewolf: What's the difference?
[04:42] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: you still there?
[04:42] <Eaglewolf> arrenlex: interface and ease of use
[04:42] <StraightShooter> Well, as that page said... fixed one problem, introduced another
[04:42] <Somebodyelse> yessir
[04:42] <blueprints88888> arrenlex this was my output for cat         0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[04:42] <blueprints88888>                      HDA Intel at 0xd8240000 irq 58
[04:43] <Judicata> StraightShooter: did it give you the cursor artifacts?
[04:43] <arrenlex> Eaglewolf: Interface is whatever you choose to install. I'm assuming gnome. That's developed by the gnome people. As for ease of use, they're based on the same package manager and have almost the same packages.
[04:43] <memo_> hello evryone
[04:43] <arrenlex> Hehe... I'd never thought I'd ever say anything was "made by the gnome people" xD
[04:43] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: add the following line under your video card section (line 106 according to your pastebin).
[04:43] <arrenlex> Oooh the gnome people will get you! ATTACK OF THE GNOME PEOPLE AAAAH
[04:43] <StraightShooter> yea.. cursor artifacts... not too bad... for inlaws... just need to know how to set video overlay on both crt and tv...
[04:44] <Andruk> !ubotu uuid
[04:44] <ubotwo> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:44] <arrenlex> !hi | memo_
[04:44] <ubotwo> memo_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:44] <Judicata> StraightShooter: well, at least the gamma thing is fixed - your other option is to install an updated driver from ati's website.
[04:44] <Somebodyelse> yessir?
[04:44] <Somebodyelse> what line?
[04:44] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: lol, sorry - 	Option		"XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
[04:45] <StraightShooter> judicata... nay good sir.. same problem there... I installed the "Official" bag of crap last week.
[04:45] <MegaTrousers> How do I use zgrep to search through a bunch of tar.gz files for IP addresses within a certain range?
[04:45] <Judicata> StraightShooter: well...crap.
[04:45] <Somebodyelse> that would be under Section "Device"?
[04:45] <SirWellington> Dmix setup + soundblaster audiy2 NX is annoying...
[04:45] <StraightShooter> Judicata... if it was all that great, I wouldn't be giving it away... don't sweat it
[04:45] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: right under "Option  "UseFBDev"  under the Generic Video Card section
[04:46] <StraightShooter> I was just hoping to keep them out of Windoze
[04:46] <Somebodyelse> ok
[04:46] <Somebodyelse> done.
[04:46] <Somebodyelse> do i restart X?
[04:46] <StraightShooter> so I'm not over there removing viruses and spyware every other week
[04:46] <kristjans> what do you think about gimmie? is it worth trying?
[04:46] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: yep. hopefully that'll fix some performance issues.
[04:46] <Somebodyelse> kk, restarting now
[04:46] <Smirnov> how do I use xnest with gdm on ubuntu
[04:47] <pb> anyone get the serial ports to work when using a application that uses wine hq
[04:47] <Somebodyelse> it's still under Mesa
[04:47] <GardenHose> what package can install a php-mysql library?
[04:47] <wastrel> i just followed the fglrx wiki guide
[04:47] <glick> hey does anyone know if there is a place i can drop a file online so other people can up load it?
[04:47] <glick> i mean download it
[04:47] <StraightShooter> be right back
[04:48] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: still says mesa? do you have fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx instaled?
[04:48] <kiamo> whats the cmd to see job ids?
[04:48] <arrenlex> Judicata: Yes. His error is (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727) <--- that means it got pretty darn far
[04:48] <wastrel> ps
[04:48] <kalyugi> hi all
[04:49] <kalyugi> i just wanted to share something
[04:49] <Judicata> arrenlex: ok, thanks.
[04:49] <kalyugi> Edgy prescribes iocharset=utf8
[04:49] <arrenlex> !hi | kalyugi
[04:49] <ubotwo> kalyugi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:49] <kalyugi> for mounting VFAT
[04:49] <blanky> arrenlex!
[04:49] <blanky> :D
[04:49] <kalyugi> i just wanted to bring to the attention of ppl
[04:49] <fokuslee> my gnome-setting-daemon crashes is there a quick fix?
[04:49] <kalyugi> that this can cause severe heartache
[04:49] <kalyugi> doiung this cause VFAT to become case sensitive
[04:50] <arrenlex> blanky: Andhi.
[04:50] <kalyugi> i was trying to download a tiorrent file to my FAT32 partition
[04:50] <kalyugi> and i keot getting an error that the dir was not accesible
[04:51] <NeoGeo64> Can someone tell me what Dmix is for?
[04:51] <kalyugi> upon closer inspection i reaslised that the case of the directory was  being referred differntly
[04:51] <kalyugi> UUID=43C8-BE1C  /media/sda5     vfat  umask=000 0    0
[04:51] <kalyugi> this is what i have now
[04:51] <kalyugi> and its all good
[04:51] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: For playing more than one sound at a time (mixing)
[04:51] <NeoGeo64> i need that
[04:51] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: arrenlex: fglrx doesn't support AIGLX...
[04:51] <kalyugi> someone should take this up with the ubuntu folks and get them to change their doco to stop suggesting thte iopcharset to be utf-8
[04:52] <arrenlex> Judicata: I know. I'm not familiar with the error, however. I've seen it before, but all those people were able to magically resolve it somehow.
[04:52] <Judicata> arrenlex: wierd.
[04:52] <NeoGeo64> how do i get it
[04:52] <kalyugi> that will be all
[04:52] <kalyugi> big brother has spoken for the benefit of all
[04:52] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: ok, I have one more suggestion dealing with aiglx... ready?
[04:52] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?title=DmixPlugin
[04:53] <cparker> Does anyone know where I can get an Edgy package for Gaim 2.0.0beta6?
[04:53] <kiamo> does ubuntu come with a program for burning dvds/cds like nero?
[04:53] <kalyugi> kiamo try dvdshrink
[04:53] <arrenlex> !burn | kiamo
[04:53] <ubotwo> kiamo: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:53] <Smirnov> how do i lock the screen when running an X mini-session with xnest
[04:53] <arrenlex> kalyugi: dvdshrink != burning o__O
[04:53] <arrenlex> kalyugi: dvdshrink also != linux
[04:53] <kiamo> thanks guys
[04:53] <kalyugi> i think he means copying dvd
[04:53] <NeoGeo64> i dont understand that page
[04:53] <kalyugi> cuz he mentions nero
[04:53] <arrenlex> kalyugi: No, I'm pretty sure he means burning. o_O
[04:53] <BlueEagle> !beta
[04:53] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[04:53] <arrenlex> kalyugi: Yeah. Because nero, you know, burns.
[04:54] <kalyugi> aaah
[04:54] <kalyugi> i dont
[04:54] <kiamo> sorry i meant a good app like nero but for linux :)
[04:54] <arrenlex> Hey! What happened to ubotu?! :(
[04:54] <kalyugi> actually
[04:54] <arrenlex> WHO KILLED UBOTU?
[04:54] <glick> is there a place where you can drop files?
[04:54] <kalyugi> if you wanna burn dvd's its got to be tovid
[04:54] <kalyugi> to author
[04:54] <blueprints88888_> linux isnt what its so cracked up to be
[04:54] <kalyugi> and you can use k3b to burn
[04:54] <arrenlex> kiamo: k3b is probably the best. You could also try gnometoaster.
[04:54] <kalyugi> unless you prefer cli
[04:54] <BlueEagle> cparker: Odds are that you won't find a package for a beta release. In any case support for it would be slim. If you really want to get beta6 (and know what you're doing) I suggest you build it from source.
[04:54] <blueprints88888_> so many things you have to configure,everytime you want to do something
[04:55] <wastrel> arrenlex:  ubotu crashed.  ubotwo
[04:55] <wastrel> !ubotwo
[04:55] <camerong> can anyone help me find out why fglrx isnt working? i have the packages but its not being used by my graphics card it seems
[04:55] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[04:55] <fokuslee> blueprints88888:  i soo hear u everytime i update something something else always break
[04:55] <blueprints88888_> sometimes makes me think its not worth it
[04:55] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: Isn't Linux cracked up to be a difficult, obfuscated, unpopular OS used by unpopular, unattractive geeks out of deep philosphical considerations?
[04:55] <Somebodyelse> jyeah, i'm ready
[04:55] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: I think it's exactly what it's cracked up to be.
[04:55] <kalyugi> arrenlex as regards the unattarctiuve bit
[04:55] <wastrel> heh
[04:55] <kalyugi> speak for yerself
[04:55] <blueprints88888_> well..
[04:55] <wastrel> heh
[04:55] <blueprints88888_> im not sure
[04:56] <NeoGeo64> If I get a soundcard with hardware mixing do I need dmix still?
[04:56] <kalyugi> whats worng blueprint
[04:56] <Judicata_> Somebodyelse: ok, let me pastebin this code.
[04:56] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: If you want the slick, shiny OS your grandmother can use without problems, that would be MacOS.
[04:56] <blueprints88888_> i mean, they should have it more configured
[04:56] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: I don't think so, no.
[04:56] <kalyugi> nah that would be Linux
[04:56] <blueprints88888_> ya but i dont liek mac
[04:56] <kalyugi> with compiz or beryl
[04:56] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: Then use windows.
[04:56] <blueprints88888_> and windows has too much shit they put on extra
[04:56] <Crawler> pl
[04:56] <kalyugi> it will eat mac for break fast
[04:56] <Judicata_> Somebodyelse: add this to your xorg.conf.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2225/
[04:56] <arrenlex> blueprints88888: Then write your own operating system.
[04:56] <blueprints88888_> HAHA
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | blueprints88888_
[04:56] <ubotwo> blueprints88888_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:57] <Smirnov> Anyone here use xnest
[04:57] <blueprints88888_> sorry
[04:57] <Smirnov> I cant figure out how to change the screen size
[04:57] <Smirnov> im using it via gdmflexiserver though
[04:57] <kalyugi> nothings more shinier and slick than running beryl
[04:57] <NeoGeo64> I'm able to use some different sound sources at once, like XMMS and Flash video.  But I can't hear gaim sounds or watch a dvd.  It's like some apps dont have a problem and some do.
[04:57] <Somebodyelse> just a question
[04:57] <Crawler> http://www.nonelife.com
[04:57] <fokuslee> my gnome-setting-daemon crashes is there a quick fix?
[04:57] <blueprints88888_> **** :)
[04:57] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: yep?
[04:57] <kalyugi> fokuslee what do your logs say
[04:57] <Somebodyelse> why does beryl require AIGLX
[04:57] <Somebodyelse> if ubuntu doesn't support it?
[04:58] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: it doesn't. You can use XGL.
[04:58] <kalyugi> i am using xgl
[04:58] <BlueEagle> blueprints88888_: Well, seing as linux is a very powerful and versatile system it is only natural that there are many configuration settings. Especially when setting up servers there is no good "default" settings as there are so many other things to concidere. In my opinion it's only good that things are unconfigured as it forces people to understand the software that they are running and thus doesn't let you do very stupid things witho
[04:58] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: It doesn't.
[04:58] <Somebodyelse> oh, ok
[04:58] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: Ubuntu supports aiglx... fglrx doesn't support aiglx.
[04:58] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: AIGLX is for drivers other than fglrx, which provides XGL.
[04:58] <kalyugi> mate...and it rocks so i have no idea what you are talking about Somebody else
[04:58] <Somebodyelse> ah...ok. thanks!
[04:58] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: i.e., if you have an nvidia card, you can use aiglx.
[04:58] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: provides -> needs
[04:58] <fokuslee> kalyugi: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342289
[04:58] <kalyugi> i have nvidia
[04:58] <Somebodyelse> ahh...
[04:59] <blueprints88888_> BlueEagle, that is true, but i think there should be tutorials for every error and so,or how to configure certain things
[04:59] <Somebodyelse> restarting X
[04:59] <blueprints88888_> i like Linux dont get me wrong
[04:59] <blueprints88888_> its my main OS now
[04:59] <BlueEagle> blueprints88888_: Well aren't there?
[04:59] <fokuslee> kalyugi:  oh by the way those are not smilly faces just the forum misintrepting 8)
[04:59] <blueprints88888_> there is some
[05:00] <kalyugi> fokuslee whats the background to the prob
[05:00] <kalyugi> when did it start happening
[05:00] <blueprints88888_> but you have to SEARCH for it,and sometimes it can take days,or weeks to fix
[05:00] <kalyugi> 'what did you try to do before you got this
[05:00] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[05:00] <blueprints88888_> my internet connection for example
[05:00] <Crawler> http://www.nonelife.com
[05:00] <BlueEagle> blueprints88888_: I find that in almost all cases googling an error message given by any linux program gives multiple hits.
[05:00] <Somebodyelse> it still doesn't work...
[05:01] <Somebodyelse> it's still at mesa
[05:01] <fokuslee> kalyugi:  i did nothing, it just happened
[05:01] <kalyugi> lol
[05:01] <fokuslee> kalyugi:  like the very last thing i did was a defrag job
[05:01] <Judicata> blueprints88888_: since errors are popping up all the time, no software could do that... windows certainly doesn't.
[05:01] <blueprints88888_> BlueEagle yes true. but finding YOUR exact error sometimes take some time
[05:01] <blueprints88888_> ya
[05:01] <BlueEagle> blueprints88888_: So the problem is not actually a lack of documentation but too much of it?
[05:02] <kalyugi> have you checked dbus permissions
[05:02] <cparker> What about the latest xchat-gnome? The version offered by Edgy is 0.13, but the latest version is 0.16
[05:02] <blueprints88888_> BlueEagle in a way ya
[05:02] <uttar1> how do I install the "official bittorrent client". It is the one from www.bittorrent.com
[05:02] <blueprints88888_> i mean, i searched ubuntu on ow to install  alsa midi system,nothing comes up
[05:02] <fokuslee> kalyugi what do u mean by dbus premssion?
[05:02] <HymnToLife> uttar1, sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[05:02] <blueprints88888_> but when i try apt-get it tells me i have the latest version
[05:02] <HymnToLife> !info bittorrent
[05:02] <camerong> can anyone help me set up fglrx
[05:02] <ubotwo> bittorrent - Scatter-gather network file transfer - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[05:02] <camerong> ?
[05:02] <BlueEagle> cparker: If you want the bleeding edge you might concider a distro that focuses on just that. I hear Gentoo are fast to get new releases into their portage tree.
[05:03] <kalyugi> rwx perms
[05:03] <Judicata> uttar1: most eople will suggest using azureus or ktorrent.  Both are much better.
[05:03] <blueprints88888_> but some programs dont work for lack of alsa midi system
[05:03] <cew-smk> 3surabaya
[05:03] <kalyugi> owner and group perms
[05:03] <wastrel> camerong:  did you follow the instructions on the ubuntu wiki?
[05:03] <blueprints88888_> thats where i get stuck
[05:03] <kalyugi> the other thing worth trying is login a s root
[05:03] <camerong> wastrel: yes i did
[05:03] <cparker> BlueEagle: But I use Ubuntu.
[05:03] <cew-smk> #surabaya
[05:03] <BlueEagle> cparker: Keep in mind tho that with ~arch you'll probably be bleeding quite a bit, but you will be on the edge.
[05:03] <camerong> wastrel: however it is still not working
[05:03] <kalyugi> 'create another user and see if you get the same error
[05:03] <kalyugi> have you tried that
[05:03] <uttar1> I did that, but after installation I am not able to see the software under "open with" submenu.
[05:03] <hivemind> Should I use EasyUbuntu or Automatix2?
[05:03] <wastrel> easyubuntu
[05:04] <hivemind> Diffs?
[05:04] <Somebodyelse> anybody?
[05:04] <Somebodyelse> mesa is still rendering my 3d...
[05:04] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: good news?
[05:04] <Smirnov> why does firefox friggin segfault under xnest
[05:04] <BlueEagle> cparker: Ubuntu focuses on not breaking very often. That requires a lot of testing to be done and testing does take time. Thus it rarely contains the latest of anything but rather stuff that works.
[05:04] <Somebodyelse> nope
[05:04] <fokuslee> kalyugi i have not where is dbus located?
[05:04] <Somebodyelse> not good news
[05:04] <blueprints88888_> 
[05:04] <humblerodent> I just got my wifi card working, but I can't get it DHCP'ed because it keeps sending out DISCOVER requests for DHCP, never getting a response.  any help?  Thanks in advance
[05:04] <n2diy> "automatix | hivemind
[05:04] <kalyugi> locate dbus
[05:04] <fokuslee> Kalyugi let me reboot im in windows again.
[05:04] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: freak... sorry, i'm fresh out.
[05:04] <hivemind> Mkay...
[05:04] <n2diy> automatix | hivemind
[05:04] <kalyugi> it should be in your /etc/init.d
[05:05] <hivemind> n2diy, What is the benefit of automatix?
[05:05] <kitche> !automatix|hivemind
[05:05] <ubotwo> ivemind: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:05] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: what happened? same error?
[05:05] <Somebodyelse> i'm still at mesa
[05:05] <Somebodyelse> no error
[05:05] <Somebodyelse> given in fglrxinfo
[05:05] <cparker> BlueEagle: I see... If only the version of xchat-gnome worked well... 0.16 contains many bugfixes that would make things... hmmm.... more stable. ;)
[05:05] <n2diy> automatix | hivemind
[05:05] <hivemind> Hm...
[05:05] <hivemind> !easyubuntu
[05:05] <ubotwo> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:05] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: what video card to you have?
[05:05] <kitche> n2diy: forgetting the !
[05:05] <Somebodyelse> Mobility Radeon X700
[05:05] <n2diy> hivemind none.
[05:05] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: What does "file /usr/lib/libGL.so*" say?
[05:06] <n2diy> kitche: :/
[05:06] <hivemind> Hmm...
[05:06] <n2diy> ! automatix | hivemind
[05:06] <ubotwo> hivemind: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:06] <lun> hi, all, anyone has compiled the kernel recently? it seems new kernel header file lacks the linux/config.h when try to install the nvidia driver, anyone knows how to solve this?
[05:06] <BlueEagle> cparker: That depends. On some platforms it might be more stable yet it might totally breake some weird things on other archs.
[05:07] <hivemind> Hm...
[05:07] <BlueEagle> cparker: linux is more than x86
[05:07] <hivemind> I've used automatix in the part with no errors...
[05:07] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: you there?
[05:07] <Somebodyelse> yeah
[05:07] <Somebodyelse> putting into pastebin
[05:08] <Somebodyelse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2226
[05:08] <cparker> BlueEagle: Really... I didn't know that, being on PPC, myself. :-P
[05:08] <hivemind> Automatix it is
[05:08] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: ... o__O
[05:08] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Okay, try this:
[05:08] <kalyugi> I have never had issues with Automatix
[05:08] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/glbak
[05:08] <kalyugi> it installs and uininstalls cleanly
[05:09] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: sudo mv /usr/lib/libGL* /usr/lib/glbak/
[05:09] <n2diy> ok, put hivemind on the list!
[05:09] <hivemind> ...?
[05:09] <brussel> I want to start making copies of my movie DVDs so the kids don't destroy any more. What's considered the best software for that?
[05:09] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: sudo wget -O/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2
[05:09] <kalyugi> ok i cant stand bear the smell of arrenlex
[05:09] <kalyugi> im outta here
[05:09] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: sudo ldconfig
[05:09] <arrenlex> kalyugi: ? o_O
[05:09] <kalyugi> fokuslee
[05:09] <fokuslee> yeah
[05:10] <n2diy> hivemind: we are watching, go for automatix, and your box will go up in flames, and we will never talk to you again. :) kidding.
[05:10] <Somebodyelse> done
[05:10] <kalyugi> have you tried anything yet
[05:10] <hivemind> =P
[05:10] <fokuslee> kalyugi:  i just locate dbus im trying to find where is the binary
[05:10] <Somebodyelse> next?
[05:10] <kalyugi> nah first try creating another user\
[05:10] <hivemind> I dunno. I've used it in the past is all
[05:10] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Now what does "file /usr/lib/libGL*" say?
[05:10] <kalyugi> as root
[05:10] <arrenlex> kalyugi: What did I do?
[05:10] <kalyugi> dbus has 2 config files
[05:10] <kalyugi> one is for system wide settings
[05:10] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[05:10] <kalyugi> and othe is for each user profile
[05:11] <kalyugi> creating anoither user will direct us
[05:11] <kalyugi> arrenlex...nada mate
[05:11] <kalyugi> kidding
[05:11] <kalyugi> winding you up
[05:11] <Judicata> hivemind: I've used it on 3 different laptops...no problems. but don't tell anybody.
[05:11] <fokuslee> kalyugi yeah i tried that already but i get no sound for some reason along with other problems but no gnome-settings-daemon error
[05:11] <Somebodyelse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2228/
[05:11] <kalyugi> what other proble,s
[05:11] <kalyugi> i meant what other problems
[05:11] <NeoGeo64> ANyone here run LUNix on their SNes?
[05:12] <n2diy> Judicata: your already on the list. :)
[05:12] <Judicata> n2diy: doh!
[05:12] <fokuslee> well like sound problem, and real player and no more beryl etc
[05:12] <n2diy> Judicata: ;)
[05:12] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Okay... now restart your X. Chances that this will do anything are slim, but you can try. If X refuses to load, just remove /usr/lib/libGL* and move everything in /usr/lib/glbak back out to /usr/lib.
[05:12] <kalyugi> beryl will have to be configured for each user
[05:12] <kalyugi> and so will realplayer
[05:12] <kalyugi> as regards sound...i wouldnt know
[05:13] <kalyugi> the other thing you might try is ...readinjg up on dbus-daemon
[05:13] <fokuslee> kalyugi yeah i was like no sound atall something with alsa
[05:13] <fokuslee> kalyugi so i just del the new user
[05:13] <hivemind> Oh! I'm also having a problem with my network-manager
[05:13] <kalyugi> theres something with yer dbus-config mate
[05:13] <Somebodyelse> all hail arrenlex!
[05:14] <n2diy> Where do I tweak file associations?
[05:14] <Somebodyelse> it works!
[05:14] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: What?!
[05:14] <Somebodyelse> it works!
[05:14] <alyssa_> Hello room!
[05:14] <hivemind> "ifconfig" shows that eth1 (My wireless card) is ready to rock, but I cannot start network-manager up to connect
[05:14] <kalyugi> thats all i can think of
[05:14] <host_> j
[05:14] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Impossible! You're certain?!
[05:14] <Somebodyelse> the renderer is now ATi!
[05:14] <kalyugi> it might be risky...but read up and consider reintsalling dbus
[05:14] <n2diy> Somebodyelse: congrats!
[05:14] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Cool!!
[05:14] <alyssa_> How is everyone this morning!
[05:14] <fokuslee> kalyugi yeah i will but it seems it doesn't like something in my personal profile b/c the newuser had gnome starting just fine
[05:14] <kalyugi> thats right
[05:14] <fokuslee> kalyugi:  thx anyways
[05:14] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: I recalled from a long time ago that fglrx needs its own GL library, not the one that comes with mesa.
[05:15] <kalyugi> as i said dbus has 2 settings
[05:15] <hivemind> I mean, I "sudo apt-get network-manager-gnome" (The frontend) and it did everything nice and good
[05:15] <Somebodyelse> but wait
[05:15] <hivemind> But I can't start it...
[05:15] <Somebodyelse> glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:15] <kalyugi> 1 is systrem wide and the other is user bases
[05:15] <alyssa_> Kalyugi, whats dbus?!
[05:15] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Hmm.
[05:15] <fokuslee> kalyugi:  k i will read up on it
[05:15] <Somebodyelse> so should i just copy all the other files back?
[05:15] <kalyugi> its a message bus daemon
[05:16] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: No, hold on.
[05:16] <alyssa_> Kalyugi, whats dbus?!
[05:16] <n2diy> hivemind: in a terminal type sudo ifup eth0, or whatever number the card is.
[05:16] <kalyugi> alyssa
[05:16] <Crankymonky> one thing that irks me is I can't get sound from a browser (at least in like flash players like MySpace or purevolume's) while having another app that uses audio (like rhythmbox or amarok) though I can get audio from both rhythmbox and amarok at the same time, anyone have a solution?
[05:16] <kalyugi> are you blind
[05:16] <kalyugi> alyssa or cant you read
[05:16] <kalyugi> its a meesage bus daemon
[05:16] <hivemind> n2diy, "ifup: interface eth1 already configured"
[05:16] <alyssa_> oh okie.. sorry I missed the message.
[05:16] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: What happens if you try installing libglu1-mesa?
[05:17] <kalyugi> do u want me to type that again alyssa
[05:17] <alyssa_> no, I got it now. Thanks.
[05:17] <n2diy> hivemind: good, can you ping it?
[05:17] <kalyugi> or assa whatever yer name is
[05:17] <hivemind> n2diy, Erm?
[05:17] <wastrel> what's dbus?
[05:17] <Somebodyelse> arrenlex: weirdly enough, synaptic says it's already installed
[05:17] <kalyugi> ok im outta here wankers
[05:17] <hivemind> I admit there's a lot of stuff about linux I don't know >_<
[05:17] <jewel> wastrel: It's how programs communicate with the kernel
[05:17] <n2diy> hivemind: in a terminal, "ping eth1"
[05:18] <Judicata> be nice.
[05:18] <alyssa_> jewel: thanks for that!
[05:18] <Jebho> whats everyones favorite C/C++ ide?
[05:18] <hivemind> n2diy, "ping: unknown host eth1"
[05:18] <MaddMartigan> how do I change the icon for the application launcher from the default ubuntu icon to an icon of my choosing?
[05:18] <n2diy> hivemind: :/ ok, run ifconfig, what is eth1's ip address? can you ping that?
[05:18] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: That's odd. How about apt-get install --reinstall libglu1-mesa?
[05:19] <alyssa_> Jewel: Can you advise how to get my notebooks rocker button to work? It is the button between left and right click of the mouse pad. It is used to scrol up and down.
[05:19] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: by laucher, you mean the ones on the desktop, right?
[05:19] <Somebodyelse> arrenlex: reinstalled
[05:19] <MaddMartigan> yeah
[05:19] <flamesrock> quick question-- if I have a regular ide-ATA interface on my computer(not SATA), will an E-IDE drive work with it?
[05:19] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: right click, and then click on the icon.
[05:19] <MaddMartigan> the icon on the panel....sorry
[05:19] <Somebodyelse> arrenlex: it works!
[05:19] <jewel> alyssa_: What brand of notebook?
[05:20] <alyssa_> Fujitsu Cseries.
[05:20] <Somebodyelse> user@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[05:20] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: I don't trust your "it works" anymore. Waiting for the next error.
[05:20] <MaddMartigan> I think I know how but I'm not really sure
[05:20] <Somebodyelse> direct rendering: Yes
[05:20] <Crankymonky> one thing that irks me is I can't get sound from a browser (at least in like flash players like MySpace or purevolume's) while having another app that uses audio (like rhythmbox or amarok) though I can get audio from both rhythmbox and amarok at the same time, anyone have a solution?
[05:20] <Somebodyelse> haha... me too
[05:20] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: same thing right click - properties - then click on the icon
[05:20] <Somebodyelse> i don't trust it anymore
[05:20] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: direct rendering doesn't mean you have acceleration. What does "glxinfo | grep render" say?
[05:20] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: (sorry, I left out properties the firsttime)
[05:20] <MaddMartigan> it will only let me "edit menus"
[05:20] <Jebho> speaking of menu editing - why is there no "Places" section in the menu editor
[05:20] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[05:20] <MaddMartigan> if I click on "properties" I can only change the size of the panel but not the icon
[05:21] <alyssa_> Jewel: Fujitsu Cseries.
[05:21] <Somebodyelse> user@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[05:21] <Somebodyelse> direct rendering: Yes
[05:21] <Somebodyelse>     GLX_ATI_render_texture
[05:21] <Somebodyelse> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic
[05:21] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Alright!!
[05:21] <Somebodyelse> does that mean I have acceleration at last?
[05:21] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Yes.
[05:21] <Somebodyelse> at last!
[05:21] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: hrm? right click on the icon itself.
[05:21] <n2diy> hivemind: what happened?
[05:21] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Test it out. Run glxgears -printfps
[05:21] <Somebodyelse> after fumbling with it since monday
[05:21] <MindFreek> Can someone help, I just updated GAIM to BETA 6, and now the update manager tells me to update to BETA 5
[05:21] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Tell me what numbers it prints. Don't resize it.
[05:21] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: I'll hold my congratulations for a minute...
[05:21] <MaddMartigan> when I right click on the Ubuntu symbol/icon I can only "edit menus" and "help", etc.
[05:22] <alyssa_> jewel: It is a Fujitsu C Series, but does it matter?
[05:22] <MaddMartigan> no "properties"
[05:22] <gecko_> hey all
[05:22] <jewel> alyssa_: Give me a minute I'll see if I can dig anything up
[05:22] <n2diy> MindFreek: you DLed 6 from there website right? Update thinks 5 is the latest version.
[05:22] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: oooh, you mean the icon for your main menu (the little ubuntu symbol in the upper left hand corner by default)?
[05:22] <MaddMartigan> yes
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> user@ubuntu:~$ glxgears -printfps
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> 15379 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3075.699 FPS
[05:22] <alyssa_> jewel: Okie. I ll be patient! :) Thanks!
[05:22] <MaddMartigan> woot
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> 14056 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2798.111 FPS
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> 11884 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2376.684 FPS
[05:22] <arrenlex> MindFreek: It has to do with how ubuntu records its version numbers.
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> 15130 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3025.880 FPS
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> 15696 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3139.138 FPS
[05:22] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Okay, stop!
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> 16047 frames in 5.1 seconds = 3137.015 FPS
[05:22] <n2diy> there/their*
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> pretty much what i got in breezy last time
[05:22] <MindFreek> arrenlex, so what can I do...
[05:22] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Looks good! :)
[05:22] <Somebodyelse> dunno why edgy has so much more trouble with the ati proprietary
[05:23] <Somebodyelse> thanks arrenlex and judicata!
[05:23] <hivemind> n2diy, "inet addr:"?
[05:23] <hivemind> Um...
[05:23] <hivemind> It's not stopping..
[05:23] <hivemind> "64 bytes from 192.168.0.101: icmp_seq=106 ttl=64 time=0.036 ms"
[05:23] <jewel> alyssa_: As a side note you might be able to scroll by dragging your finger at the very right of your touchpad
[05:23] <hivemind> And it keeps printing lines with the icmp_seq increasing each time
[05:23] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: not, like the firefox launcher...  you can't do anything about the main one.
[05:23] <MaddMartigan> wow....really?
[05:23] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: You're welcome. :) Glad to hear it.
[05:23] <hivemind> n2diy, Wow, not sure...
[05:23] <MindFreek> n2diy, what can I do to make Ubuntu think that 6 is the latest
[05:23] <MaddMartigan> I've seen pics of people that have done different ones
[05:23] <n2diy> hivemind: ctrl+z will stop it.
[05:23] <ctothej> where can I change the hot key shift+backspace that logs you out of XGL ?
[05:23] <gecko_> gotta question... i just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and when i log in GNOME there is no menu bar's says something about daemon tools not working or failure....but my kde works great
[05:23] <Somebodyelse> so you reckon i can try beryl now?
[05:23] <n2diy> MindFreek: I don' know, it is a PITA
[05:24] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: The problem was that fglrx requires a modified version of libGL. When you install the ubuntu package, it handles it automatically. Since you didn't, the versions conflicted and it couldn't run.
[05:24] <hivemind> Well. Basically I was typing and I wasn't seeing any responses
[05:24] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Sure... good luck. You'll need xgl.
[05:24] <arrenlex> !xgl | Somebodyelse
[05:24] <ubotwo> Somebodyelse: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:24] <Judicata> Judicata: rather than the ubuntu symbol? You can remove the main menu and use folders instead. Maybe someone developed a hack for it, but I'm unaware of being able to change it.
[05:24] <hivemind> And then when I ctrl+c'ed it all these messages came in
[05:24] <alyssa_> jewel: I cant do that. I dont know if the touch pad was designed for it. When I was running $$$XP only the scroll button worked.
[05:24] <ctothej> Somebodyelse: Beryl is awesome. The new update that I downloaded today got it all working for me
[05:24] <Somebodyelse> so next time, i should do the proprietary one direct?
[05:24] <jun> silly question, from a noob of course...dhcpcd, for some reason the CD i burned, is not availableor maybe there's a diff command i could use
[05:24] <MaddMartigan> yeah, I've seen the old gnome symbol and the apple symbol in two different cases
[05:24] <n2diy> hivemind: do you have a prompt now?
[05:24] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: You installed from ati's website, didn't you?
[05:24] <hivemind> n2diy, Yup
[05:25] <Somebodyelse> at first from the repos, then the ati website
[05:25] <n2diy> hivemind: ok, now we know eth1 i working.
[05:25] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: Yeah. Somewhere, something messed up.
[05:25] <frogzoo> ctothej: does that mean beryl beta 2 is out?
[05:25] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: ok - i don't think its easy. but maybe someone else in here knows.
[05:25] <hivemind> n2diy, I see.
[05:25] <Somebodyelse> learnt my lesson
[05:25] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: I'd advise you to stick to the repos with things like this, unless you really needed the new version
[05:25] <MaddMartigan> is there any way to change the labels for "Applications" "Places" "System"
[05:25] <Judicata> Somebodyelse: so everything works no?
[05:25] <linux_user400354> does anyone use bum?
[05:25] <ctothej> frogzoo: dont think it is beta 2, let me check
[05:25] <arrenlex> I have a bum! :D
[05:25] <Judicata> arrenlex: good job, btw.
[05:25] <Somebodyelse> uhh... the repos were the same version, but with mesa...
[05:25] <gecko_> yea.. i sit on my bum
[05:25] <arrenlex> Judicata: Thank you...
[05:26] <gecko_> lol
[05:26] <Somebodyelse> that's why i tried ati proprietary
[05:26] <n2diy> hivemind: to see what a bad connection looks like ping 127.0.0.99
[05:26] <Somebodyelse> but dapper gave me direct rendering the last time
[05:26] <linux_user400354> i know haha. does anyone have Boot Up Manager?
[05:26] <MaddMartigan> is there any way to change the labels for "Applications" "Places" "System"
[05:26] <Somebodyelse> with the repos
[05:26] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: fglrx in the repos is fglrx from the website, except packaged properly for ubuntu so you don't have to do things like this. xD
[05:26] <gecko_> i just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and when i log in GNOME there is no menu bar's says something about daemon tools not working or failure....but my kde works great..any help ppl?
[05:26] <alyssa_> linux_user400354: I do.
[05:26] <Somebodyelse> yeah, but why does it give mesa?
[05:26] <hivemind> Ah
[05:26] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: its one of those things that is odd in ubuntu - like, you cannot easily change the font either (so you can't have a dark background and a transparent panel if you want to read it).
[05:27] <arrenlex> Somebodyelse: I don't know. Something messed up somewhere.
[05:27] <Judicata> MaddMartigan: not odd in ubuntu - but odd in Gnome.
[05:27] <jewel> alyssa_: Do you know the model number of your laptop?
[05:27] <frogzoo> Somebodyelse: if you read the docs, there's newer versions of fglrx available from other repos
[05:27] <alyssa_> jewel: it is C2220.
[05:27] <MaddMartigan> isn't there a conf file for those things?
[05:27] <linux_user400354> alyssa_: does bum show openssh-server? it doesnt for me and i have it installed
[05:27] <n2diy> hivemind: kill that with ctrl+z, now what, do you have a router you need to get through?
[05:27] <alyssa_> linux_user400354: lemme check.
[05:27] <arrenlex> n2diy: You're aware that ctrl+z doesn't kill things, right?
[05:27] <ctothej> frogzoo: yes... 0.2.0 beta is out
[05:27] <ctothej> that the version i have
[05:27] <hivemind> n2diy, There is a router yes, but I have no reason to believe it blocks ports or anything
[05:27] <frogzoo> ctothej: thx :D
[05:28] <n2diy> arrenlex: its stops ping.
[05:28] <hivemind> (Wireless router)
[05:28] <Somebodyelse> i'm happy with this though, after struggling for so long
[05:28] <arrenlex> n2diy: Well sure, it stops anything. But it doesn't kill it.
[05:28] <n2diy> arrenlex: kill/stop, bad choice of terms.
[05:28] <MindFreek> n2diy, I think I resolved it, I just PINNED this new version in Synatpic, and everything is fine.
[05:28] <arrenlex> n2diy: Okeydoke. Just making sure.
[05:28] <alyssa_> linux_user400354: no it doesnt show sshd.
[05:28] <gecko_> i just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and when i log in GNOME there is no menu bar's says something about daemon tools not working or failure....but my kde works great..any help ppl?
[05:29] <linux_user400354> alyssa_: any way to get it to? i think its supposed to show that
[05:29] <n2diy> hivemind: ok, can you ping the router?
[05:29] <n2diy> MindFreek: PINNED ?
[05:29] <alyssa_> linux_user400354: no clue. Lemme look it up in ubuntuforums.org and advise you.
[05:29] <jewel> alyssa_: I'm not finding much.  Two other people on the web mentioned that they couldn't get it to work either.  :(
[05:29] <MindFreek> you can LOCK a version in Synaptic under PACKAGE, LOCK VERSION
[05:30] <linux_user400354> alyssa_: thanks
[05:30] <hivemind> n2diy, Yup
[05:30] <MindFreek> n2diy, it shows in Synaptic as PINNED
[05:30] <jewel> alyssa_: You could try running the program called xev to see if the button generates events
[05:30] <alyssa_> jewel: I checked on the ubuntuforums.org and didnt find the answer either :(
[05:30] <alyssa_> jewel: Thanks for trying though!
[05:30] <jewel> alyssa_: np
[05:30] <n2diy> hivemind: ok, so the lan side of stuff is working. Umm, I don't even know what your original question was!?
[05:31] <Smirnov> I have 2 monitors
[05:31] <Smirnov> how do i start an application in a specific monitor ?
[05:31] <hivemind> n2diy, the router responds
[05:31] <alyssa_> jewel: Most programs take about 15-30 seconds to start is that normal?
[05:31] <MindFreek> Also, if anyone is looking for a .DEB of GAIM Beta 6, I have one.
[05:31] <wastrel> hi
[05:31] <n2diy> MindFreek: ok, not sure what that means, I'm juggling two or three users here, so it is hard to keep track of who is doing what, to what.
[05:32] <gecko_> alyssa: 15-30 seconds is good if its a slower machine....it depends on the pc specs
[05:32] <hivemind> n2diy, Well, basically I need to connect the wireless net in my house
[05:32] <jewel> alyssa_: The first time that's normal but if you exit and start it again then it should come up fast
[05:32] <MindFreek> n2diy,  just know that I got it resolved, and thanks for the help.
[05:32] <hivemind> (I'm using ethernet cable right now)
[05:32] <OmniD> How would one get to the terminal before X starts?
[05:32] <OmniD> Eeeeasy question
[05:32] <alyssa_> jewel: why is first time normal?
[05:32] <MacLinuxMaster> Smirnov: You may try sometring like appname :0 if :0 is your first display...
[05:32] <theflyingfool> are there any web development progs that compare to dreamweaver in features and ease of use
[05:32] <wastrel> terminal before x starts.
[05:32] <n2diy> MindFreek: cool, thanks the points. :)
[05:32] <Smirnov> MacLinuxMaster: hmm... i dont have 2 x servers tho
[05:32] <hivemind> I did "sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome" which is the frontend
[05:33] <OmniD> theflyingfool: tried NVU?
[05:33] <jewel> alyssa_: It has to load all of the files from the hard drive... the second time they are already in memory so it'll be faster
[05:33] <hivemind> And apt resolved my dependencies and such nicely
[05:33] <wastrel> OmniD:  you need to turn off or remove your display manager
[05:33] <linux_user400354> anyone know why bum doesnt show sshd?
[05:33] <hivemind> But I cannot open network-manager...
[05:33] <theflyingfool> OmniD: nope but ill give it a try
[05:33] <wastrel> what's bum?
[05:33] <OmniD> wastrel: how would I do that?
[05:33] <linux_user400354> !bum
[05:33] <ubotwo> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> OmniD: CTRL+ALT+F[-6] 
[05:33] <alyssa_> jewel: terminal everytime takes 20-30 seconds. just timed it.
[05:33] <arrenlex> wastrel: Boot Up Manager.
[05:33] <wastrel> ?
[05:33] <arrenlex> wastrel: And\or, the thing you sit on.
[05:33] <OmniD> MacLinuxMaster, [-6] ?
[05:33] <jewel> alyssa_: yeah that doesn't sound right
[05:33] <n2diy> hivemind: Wireless!? your wireless card is showing up as eth1? What does iwconfig tell you?
[05:33] <flux1> is there any limit to to the size of the swap partition?
[05:34] <jewel> alyssa_: What if you press ctrl-shift-t on an existing terminal... does the new window take that long too?
[05:34] <MacLinuxMaster> alissWhats your cpu and memory ?
[05:34] <alyssa_> linux_user400354:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300384&highlight=BUM%2Bsshd, not very helpful, but I guess you can follow the thread.
[05:34] <hivemind> n2diy, mind if I c+p the message you to?
[05:34] <hivemind> In a priv message
[05:34] <alyssa_> jewel: lemme try ctrl+shift+T
[05:34] <wastrel> arrenlex:  i don't get it.  what's boot up manager?
[05:34] <jewel> flux1: You can make it as big as you want.  :)
[05:34] <arrenlex> wastrel: Configures boot services.
[05:35] <wastrel> OmniD:  you can tell gdm not to start @ boot with  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[05:35] <alyssa_> jewel: that came up very very fast.
[05:35] <n2diy> hivemind: yes, use pastebin, it is simple instructions follow.
[05:35] <wastrel> arrenlex:  oic yes bum  :]   forgot that question <3
[05:35] <OmniD> wastrel, you know we are unable to get into X
[05:35] <MacLinuxMaster> OmniD:  for example control + alt + f1 until 6
[05:35] <hivemind> Mkay
[05:35] <flux1> jewel thanks its at 1 gb now will increasing that to 3 gb is useless or useful?
[05:35] <n2diy> ! pastebin | hivemind
[05:35] <ubotwo> hivemind: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <wastrel> OmniD:  ah you are debugging X problems?  nvm :] 
[05:35] <jewel> flux1: Usually that's useless
[05:35] <OmniD> MacLinuxMaster, so we have to do F1-F6? All of them??
[05:35] <mister_roboto> wastrel: the apt-cache search says it's a graphical runlevel editor - rather than editing the rc files manually
[05:36] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[05:36] <OmniD> Or just one of them
[05:36] <hivemind> n2diy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2230/
[05:36] <alyssa_> hivemind: Are you working with the Windows Wireless drivers utility for Ubuntu?
[05:36] <flux1> ok thanks jewel
[05:36] <n2diy> hivemind: ok, let me take a look at it.
[05:36] <hivemind> alyssa_, Nope
[05:36] <hivemind> ipw3945
[05:36] <jewel> alyssa_: What version of ubuntu?
[05:37] <angro6963> hello
[05:37] <alyssa_> hivemind: Have you tried it? It is quite nifty in ndiswrapping the windows wireless drivers.
[05:37] <alyssa_> jewel: Edgy! :)
[05:37] <MacLinuxMaster> OmniD: no only one of them, for example f1 goes to tty1 f2 tty2, understand ? Sorry for I'm being so tech
[05:37] <hivemind> I shall take a look at the Intel website for drivers then
[05:37] <hivemind> Well, actually.
[05:37] <hivemind> It's not that. My system recognizes the card.
[05:37] <angro6963> how can i get itunes setup to run on ubantu?
[05:37] <hivemind> And it worked fine in Dapper.
[05:38] <Jebho> is there a way to make windows transparent?
[05:38] <alyssa_> hivemind: Lemme find that thread on Ubuntuforums that I used.. I used to command line ndiswrap before.. then I spotted the thread I am talking about and started using it. :)
[05:38] <n2diy> hivemind: ok, that looks ok, but the invalid stuff is a concern. I never made a wifi connection, so I don't know where to go from here.
[05:38] <hivemind> alyssa_, Alright, thanks.
[05:39] <angro6963> how can i get itunes setup to run on ubantu?
[05:39] <angro6963> some one  please help
[05:39] <nburns> anyone here good w/ proftpd?  i'm having problems connecting to proftpd behind my router
[05:39] <nburns> if i'm in active mode, it's good, but in passive mode, i get "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" on the client
[05:39] <linux_user400354> nburns: tried with dmz on your router?
[05:40] <jewel> alyssa_: I'm going to go out on a limb here... can you ping your computer by it's name?
[05:40] <nburns> linux_user400354: dmz? no.
[05:40] <nburns> i did forward all passive ports to the local machine
[05:40] <jewel> alyssa_: It seems like I've seen that before, a long time ago
[05:40] <nburns> in addition to port 21 obviously
[05:40] <n2diy> jewel: yes.
[05:40] <MacLinuxMaster> angro6963:  maybe you get it to work  with package wine
[05:41] <wastrel> what about port 20?
[05:41] <balarka> hello
[05:41] <alyssa_> jewel: no not by hostname, by IP yes.
[05:41] <jewel> alyssa_: That's your problem then
[05:41] <jewel> alyssa_: Edit /etc/hosts and put your host name in there
[05:41] <alyssa_> hivemind: The package is called ndisgtk
[05:41] <nburns> wastrel, i had that open, but i was under the assumption that was just for active mode.  let me try that one again though.
[05:41] <MacLinuxMaster> angro6 You may enter in appdb.winehq.org and search for itunes
[05:41] <n2diy> alyssa_: jewel, I can ping my box, Chatto, here, with ping Chatto.
[05:42] <jewel> n2diy: what?  Sorry I was talking to alyssa_ about a problem he has with gnome-terminal
[05:42] <nburns> wastrel: actually, nevermind, i did have port 20 forwarded.
[05:42] <toddobryan> Help...I used usermod -G users to add myself to the users group. What I didn't realize is that it also removed me from all other groups. Now I have a machine with no admin account.
[05:42] <nburns> i also flushed out iptables to rule that out.
[05:42] <toddobryan> What can I do?
[05:42] <wastrel> nburns:  ah well, that's my only suggestion :] 
[05:42] <n2diy> jewel: yes. you can ping your box by name.
[05:43] <alyssa_> jewel: I m not sure I m on the same page.
[05:43] <jewel> n2diy: Ah... I see what you're getting at now.  :)
[05:43] <arrenlex> toddobryan: If you can't think of anything better, you could always boot from the liveCD and sudo chroot into this partition to get root rights.
[05:43] <arrenlex> toddobryan: To fix things.
[05:43] <boyz89> l
[05:43] <balarka> kkk
[05:43] <jewel> n2diy: I know that it's possible, I was just going to have alyssa_ double check that he could since he's having some weird problem that I think is related
[05:44] <nburns> wastrel: that's ok, thanks for trying.
[05:44] <arrenlex> balarka: KKK? Where?!
[05:44] <balarka> from chicago
[05:44] <nburns> does anyone else have any proftpd tips?
[05:44] <balarka> arrenlex
[05:44] <balarka> u?
[05:44] <jewel> alyssa_: type sudo gedit /etc/hosts from the terminal
[05:44] <jrib> toddobryan: reboot in recovery mode, use "adduser".  Example:  adduser YOUR_USER admin
[05:44] <n2diy> jewel: roger, I think you have to play around in hosts, host-allow etc...
[05:44] <balarka> arrenlex: u?
[05:44] <wastrel> i thought you aren't supposed to use sudo with gedit
[05:45] <arrenlex> !u | balarka
[05:45] <ubotwo> balarka: Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[05:45] <alyssa_> jewel: okie.
[05:45] <toddobryan> arrenlex: Thanks!
[05:45] <toddobryan> jrib: Thanks!
[05:45] <balarka> ubotwo: are you sure about that ;)
[05:45] <ubotwo> balarka: Error: "are" is not a valid command.
[05:45] <jewel> wastrel: There are some files that you can't edit otherwise
[05:45] <alyssa_> jewel: I dont have my box name on the hosts file, except with a loop back address 127.0.0.1
[05:45] <theflyingfool> are there any better web development tools then nvu
[05:45] <balarka> ubotwo: ok sir
[05:45] <ubotwo> balarka: Error: "ok" is not a valid command.
[05:46] <jrib> !yourself
[05:46] <alyssa_> jewel: I cant specify my hostname and IP in my hosts file, coz I m on DHCP.
[05:46] <ubotwo> This is a temporary replacement for Ubotu. You can browse Ubotu's brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:46] <balarka> ubotwo: what is a valid command?
[05:46] <ubotwo> balarka: Error: "what" is not a valid command.
[05:46] <balarka> gr888
[05:46] <arrenlex> xDD
[05:46] <jewel> alyssa_: It is normal for it to be on the loopback line
[05:46] <mister_roboto> nburns: for passive mode to work, you'll have to open all the unpriviliged ports to your server (behind the router) becasue you don't know which data port the server will open
[05:46] <balarka> ubotwo: ubotwo
[05:46] <ubotwo> balarka: Error: "ubotwo" is not a valid command.
[05:46] <jrib> balarka: stop
[05:46] <balarka> jrib: sorry
[05:47] <ircusr> hi
[05:47] <alyssa_> jewel: ok. now what?
[05:47] <ircusr> hi!
[05:47] <balarka> jrib: i am sorry for that
[05:47] <nburns> mister_roboto: i flushed out iptables, so everything should be open there.  on my router, i've forwarded everything from 1024 on up to that local server.  am i missing something?
[05:47] <balarka> jrib: just for fun
[05:47] <jewel> alyssa_: So, your assuming your computer name is x, if you type ping x it doesn't work?
[05:47] <jrib> balarka: it's ok, but private message ubotwo instead
[05:48] <balarka> jrib: ok leave it
[05:48] <arrenlex> jrib: Actually, you should never private message ubotwo. He will block you from sending him commands.
[05:48] <alyssa_> jewel: nope, that dont work. is it because the loopback IP 127.0.0.1 is matched with x.d (where d is the domain?)
[05:48] <mister_roboto> nburns: no, that should do it. all it requires is that the client can connect to any port that the server will open for the data port
[05:48] <arrenlex> jrib: ubotwo is a temporary replacement only, and he doesn't like when you explore him.
[05:48] <arrenlex> jrib: Learned that the hard way.
[05:48] <mister_roboto> nburns: but why not just use active mode in this case?
[05:48] <ircusr> someone know how to install and compile with a symbian gcc in ubuntu?
[05:48] <mister_roboto> nburns: then you won't have to forward everything
[05:48] <balarka> jrib: i am new to ubuntu groups
[05:49] <jewel> alyssa_: Can you paste that first line of the hosts file?
[05:49] <jrib> arrenlex: oh ok
[05:49] <alyssa_> jewel: 127.0.0.1 loopback
[05:49] <nburns> because it's a pain to force the other people that connect to it to use active mode.  i don't want the clients to have to change their settings. (they wouldn't even know how to)
[05:49] <alyssa_> jewel: sorry.. it was 127.0.0.1 localhost
[05:49] <jewel> alyssa_: change it to say 127.0.0.1 localhost x x.d
[05:49] <n2diy> alyssa_: don't mess with the loopback, what does ifconfig tell you about your network card?
[05:50] <jewel> (where x is your host name and x.d is your host.domain_name, assuming you have a domain name)
[05:50] <balarka> jrib: can u see my msgs?
[05:50] <theflyingfool> does anyone do web devolopment, because as much fun as it is 2 hand edit everything i prefer the easy way
[05:50] <jrib> balarka: no
[05:50] <ircusr> hello?
[05:50] <jewel> alyssa_: Then save the file and see if ping works
[05:50] <balarka> how to chat in private
[05:50] <flux2> Hi is it possible to move the ubuntu AFTER installtion from a primary to extended partition?
[05:50] <balarka> window?
[05:50] <jrib> balarka: you have to be registered
[05:50] <balarka> jrib: i dont know how to chat in private window
[05:50] <balarka> jrib: where?
[05:50] <frogzoo> theflyingfool: learn php or rails
[05:50] <jrib> !register | balarka
[05:50] <mister_roboto> nburns: oh, and i guess it won't work if they are behind a firewall of their own :)
[05:50] <ubotwo> balarka: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:51] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[05:51] <alyssa_> jewel: my second line has 127.0.0.1 x.d (where x is machine name and d is domain).
[05:51] <balarka> jrib: thanks a lot!
[05:51] <n2diy> alyssa_: don't mess with the loopback, what does ifconfig tell you about your network card?
[05:51] <jewel> alyssa_: OK add a third line that says 127.0.0.1 x
[05:51] <MacLinuxMaster> Someone here use IDLE to program in python ?
[05:51] <nburns> mister_roboto: the thing i don't get is that i was running an ftp server on my xp box and didn't run into any of these problems.  i didn't have to forward any ports besides 21
[05:51] <alyssa_> n2diy: ifconfig tells me I have a valid IP on the eth1 interface.
[05:51] <theflyingfool> frogzoo: im not quite sure how that helps me with finding a good ide
[05:52] <mister_roboto> nburns: and you were doing that successfully with passive mode??
[05:52] <alyssa_> jewel: done. Lemme ping myself now.
[05:52] <n2diy> alyssa_: ok, that is what you want to play with, lo is used by the system, and you don't want to break it.
[05:52] <flux2> Hi is it possible to move the ubuntu AFTER installtion from a primary to extended partition?
[05:52] <balarka> ,msg
[05:52] <alyssa_> jewel: ping x works.
[05:52] <jrib> !someone | MacLinuxMaster
[05:52] <alyssa_> n2diy: okie.
[05:52] <ubotwo> MacLinuxMaster: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:53] <nburns> mister_roboto: i'm checking that now.  i know that i didn't have to set the clients to active for it though. but i'm double checking now.
[05:53] <jewel> alyssa_: OK now try starting gnome-terminal like you were before... any faster?
[05:53] <mister_roboto> nburns: active is the default for every client i've used
[05:53] <mister_roboto> nburns: usually you have to specifically set pasv
[05:53] <MacLinuxMaster> ubotwo, So tell me how I chage fonts is Tk applications ?
[05:53] <ubotwo> MacLinuxMaster: Error: "So" is not a valid command.
[05:53] <n2diy> alyssa_: jewel, can you ping the ip address of eth1?
[05:53] <alyssa_> jewel: yup, faster. But I dont see a connection between hosts and terminal start up .
[05:54] <fokuslee> kalyugi:  hey mate u still there/
[05:54] <MacLinuxMaster> ubotwo, You simply don't know
[05:54] <ubotwo> MacLinuxMaster: Error: "You" is not a valid command.
[05:54] <frogzoo> theflyingfool: apt-cache search ide |grep web
[05:54] <jewel> alyssa_: I'm not sure of the exact connection myself... :)
[05:54] <jrib> MacLinuxMaster: ubotwo is a bot
[05:54] <alyssa_> n2diy: jewel, yes I can ping my IP and my host name now. And terminal loads faster too. Just dont see the connection between terminal loading and hosts file.
[05:55] <balarka> hello
[05:55] <MacLinuxMaster> jrib, HAHAHA, I was a stupid
[05:55] <NeoGeo64> are there any video editing utils for linux like windows movie maker?
[05:55] <nburns> mister_roboto: the couple of clients i've used have had passive set as the default.
[05:56] <balarka> jrib: are u there?
[05:56] <alyssa_> jewel: n2diy, thanks a bunch guys, now I m happy with terminal load time! :)
[05:56] <nburns> mister_roboto: the only one that used active as default was the command-line ftp version
[05:56] <jrib> NeoGeo64: kino, pitivi
[05:56] <jrib> balarka: yes
[05:56] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, Apart this do you hava a neogeo 64 ?
[05:56] <bulmer> alyssa_: what do you mean you dont see connection between terminal and loading and hosts file?
[05:56] <beterraba> hello, is there anyone online?
[05:56] <frogzoo> theflyingfool: apt-cache search video |grep edit
[05:56] <balarka> jrib: did u get my private msgs?
[05:56] <NeoGeo64> MacLinuxMaster, no :(
[05:56] <balarka> jrib: i am testing it
[05:56] <jrib> balarka: nope
[05:56] <frogzoo> NeoGeo64: apt-cache search video |grep edit
[05:56] <NeoGeo64> MacLinuxMaster, closet thing I get to owning a neogeo is emulating the mvs roms
[05:56] <balarka> jrib: ooooh!~
[05:56] <mister_roboto> nburns: all i use are the cmd line ones :)   i don't see how that could possibly work if you were blocking all ports > 1023   passive just can't work like that
[05:56] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, ok I no also
[05:56] <n2diy> alyssa_: cool, I don't know what the hell we where trying to do, but glad it worked! :)
[05:57] <jrib> balarka: you aren't identified
[05:57] <beterraba> how i tranform my user into the root user? so i would no need type sudo for each command
[05:57] <balarka> jrib: i am giving here /msg jrib information
[05:57] <jrib> beterraba: sudo -i
[05:57] <frogzoo> beterraba: don't do that
[05:57] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, what is mvs ?
[05:57] <jewel> alyssa_: The connection between the two has something to do with the gnome program trying to connect to the rest of gnome... it tries to connect by computer name and for some reason if that is broken then you have to wait for it to time out
[05:57] <balarka> jrib: isnt that way correct?
[05:57] <beterraba> why?
[05:57] <alyssa_> bulmer: Well, my terminal used to take 20-30 seconds eveytime to load. But jewel and n2diy here helped me fix that by adding my computer name on the /etc/hosts file. And I am wondering how the /etc/hosts file is connected to loading terminal faster.
[05:57] <beterraba> i'm at home and only me use my pc
[05:57] <frogzoo> beterraba: only use root when you need to, not all the time
[05:57] <n2diy> beterraba: don't, that is what seperates linux from winders.
[05:57] <beterraba> is there a problem?
[05:57] <jrib> balarka: after registering, you need to identify:  /msg nickserv identify YOUR_PASSWORD
[05:58] <beterraba> ok..
[05:58] <beterraba> so..
[05:58] <frogzoo> beterraba: use sudo -i if  you must
[05:58] <nburns> mister_roboto: ok, i've verified that both active / passive work on the winxp box.
[05:58] <NeoGeo64> MacLinuxMaster, MVS Is the arcade cartridges that go in the machines, AES is the carts that go in the home console, theyre almost the same and you can play MVS carts on your AES home console with a converter
[05:58] <bulmer> alyssa_: to help resolve your host name
[05:58] <beterraba> when i need to do a command with sudo how i do?
[05:58] <beterraba> like..
[05:58] <beterraba> su
[05:58] <alyssa_> jewel: Ah, now I get it.. I might also be the case for the program to connect to Xserver running, right?
[05:58] <beterraba> pass
[05:58] <jrib> !sudo | beterraba
[05:58] <ubotwo> beterraba: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <stranger_stone> Hello
[05:58] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, ok, now I understand
[05:58] <MacLinuxMaster> Do you already emulate a gamecube ?
[05:58] <balarka> jrib: it says the nickname balarka is not registered
[05:58] <stranger_stone> Someone knows why i can`t find the ussually xchat in the ubuntu pakage?
[05:58] <alyssa_> bulmer: right/
[05:58] <mister_roboto> nburns: would be interesting to do a netstat after the client started transferring to see what port they were using
[05:58] <balarka> jrib: what shall i do?
[05:58] <NeoGeo64> AES carts cost alot more for some reason.
[05:58] <jrib> balarka: then register it
[05:59] <balarka> jrib: how to ?
[05:59] <beterraba> how i define the root's password?
[05:59] <balarka> jrib: i dont know
[05:59] <NeoGeo64> One NeoGeo cartridge was about as big as 2.5 SNES carts
[05:59] <stranger_stone> why ubuntu take off the xchat and put this small xchat ... inside the normal xchat?
[05:59] <jrib> beterraba: read the link from ubotwo
[05:59] <m12> is there a mini command line applet for the gnome panel?
[05:59] <mister_roboto> nburns: passive requires the client to open BOTH connections: for the control port and the data port. The server must be listening on more than 21 for it to work (well, it opens the data port on the fly)
[05:59] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, they are very large, I remember
[05:59] <stranger_stone> why?why?why?where is my xchat?where?where?where?
[05:59] <jrib> stranger_stone: did you install "xchat" or "xchat-gnome"?
[05:59] <terapicodave> stranger_stone: i'd just use kopete
[06:00] <jewel> m12: There is deskbar
[06:00] <alyssa_> jewel: n2diy, have you guys tried to change the ubuntu booting (with progress bar thingy) screen?
[06:00] <NeoGeo64> www.neogeo.com you can buy aes systems and games
[06:00] <nburns> mister_roboto: the strange thing, is that at the router, my passive ports are still forwarding to the ubuntu box.  and yet the passive ftp is still working on the xp box
[06:00] <jrib> balarka: do you still have the link I gave you before about registering?
[06:00] <n2diy> alyssa_: jewel, no I don't reboot.
[06:00] <NeoGeo64> i think the aes system refurbished is like $499
[06:00] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, Its still expensive ?
[06:00] <stranger_stone> jrib there are o xchat hhere in synaptic only some small version from xchat call xchat-gnome
[06:00] <linux_user400354> does the ubuntu ever delete whats in the /tmp?
[06:00] <jrib> stranger_stone: there is also just "xchat"
[06:00] <arrenlex> linux_user400354: Every time you boot
[06:00] <jrib> !info xchat | stranger_stone
[06:00] <ubotwo> stranger_stone: xchat - IRC client for X similar to AmIRC - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[06:01] <MacLinuxMaster> NeedHelp, Not so bad, for collectors
[06:01] <stranger_stone> no there are not xchat
[06:01] <NeoGeo64> MacLinuxMaster, but theyve also had their bios flashed with an advanced homebrew bios with many features and extra hardware soldered into the motherboard for svideo and stereo
[06:01] <stranger_stone> there are only xchat-gnome
[06:01] <jrib> stranger_stone: have you enabled universe?
[06:01] <n2diy> linux_user400354: yes, every time it runs it's daily cron job, I believe.
[06:01] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, I will see the site
[06:01] <stranger_stone> universe?
[06:01] <stranger_stone> hummm :x
[06:01] <mister_roboto> nburns: that can't be right. so start a large file xfer using passive to your xp and see what port the client connected on for data. then figure out how it got routed there. something isn't right with your explanation :)
[06:01] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, I love this kind of things
[06:01] <NeoGeo64> MacLinuxMaster, I love neogeo games too
[06:01] <alyssa_> n2diy: you mean you never reboot??!!
[06:01] <stranger_stone> let's me check
[06:02] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, Live SNK !
[06:02] <jrib> !universe | stranger_stone
[06:02] <ubotwo> stranger_stone: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:02] <NeoGeo64> Waku Waku 7, Windjammers
[06:02] <n2diy> alyssa_: only for hardware changes, or power failures.
[06:02] <nburns> mister_roboto: i agree something doesn't sound right. unless the router is lying to me though, everything looks correct.
[06:02] <NeoGeo64> I actually don't care much for the Metal Slug series
[06:02] <alyssa_> n2diy: hhmm. okie. But what I was talking about is changing the boot up screen. Would you know how to do it?
[06:02] <mister_roboto> nburns: sounds like you probably know this stuff but a sanity check is maybe this site... http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html
[06:03] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, i win (in emulators) an MS series, but I really like KOF
[06:03] <jewel> alyssa_: search the forums for usplash... I know that it's possible but I've never done it
[06:03] <NeoGeo64> I love KOF.
[06:03] <NeoGeo64> KOF 98 is the best in my opinion
[06:03] <n2diy> alyssa_: I have friends that have been running linux for over a decade, that haven't been rebooted.
[06:03] <stranger_stone> jrib you right i dind`t see this but ... why this retricted and the universe are the universe less secure?!
[06:03] <frogzoo> n2diy: your friends need a reboot
[06:03] <mister_roboto> nburns: if you wanted to take it to the next level, you could always do packet sniffing, say with ethereal and watch the protocol traffic to see EXACTLY what's going on
[06:03] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, I think the same way
[06:03] <NeoGeo64> MacLinuxMaster, I gave you the wrong URL, its http://www.neo-geo.com/
[06:04] <NeoGeo64> with a hyphen :)
[06:04] <n2diy> alyssa_: No, I don' know how to do that.
[06:04] <MacLinuxMaster> NeedHelp, ok
[06:04] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, KOF 2003 isn't official, and is very bad
[06:04] <m12> jewel: is that the only one you are aware of?  i was hoping for one that only did terminal, because deskbar takes up 20meg of memory.
[06:04] <n2diy> frogzoo: why, the servers are still running, and making money.
[06:04] <jewel> m12: No there's another one, one second
[06:04] <NeoGeo64> Yeah, after 2000 it went to hell.
[06:04] <alyssa_> jewel: Its not the uspash I m talking about. I have changed that. But what I m taking about is the screen that comes up with progress bar during boot process, even before GDM prompts for username and password.
[06:04] <stranger_stone> jrib i check :) you right ok :)
[06:04] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, Sure
[06:04] <alyssa_> n2diy: okie.
[06:05] <stranger_stone> thanks
[06:05] <arrenlex> alyssa_: That's called the "splash" or "kernel splash"
[06:05] <MacLinuxMaster> NeoGeo64, Sorry man, but now I need to work, see you later
[06:05] <NeoGeo64> MacLinuxMaster, see ou later
[06:05] <arrenlex> alyssa_: Are you trying to disable it?
[06:05] <m12> jewel: i might have found one myself... is "mini commander"  what you were thinking of?
[06:05] <n2diy> frogzoo: reboot is a winders solution, not a linux solution.
[06:05] <jewel> m12: Yeah that's the one.  :)
[06:05] <nburns> so according to the formula (p1 * 256 + p2), the client is connecting on 61032
[06:05] <beck> !VLC
[06:05] <ubotwo> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:06] <jrib> stranger_stone: np
[06:06] <beck> >_>
[06:06] <alyssa_> arrenlex: no disable it, but change it to something else. Do you know where I can find a howto?
[06:06] <riotkittie> n2diy:  no. reboot isnt a windows solution, its a windown /necessity/ :P
[06:06] <nburns> mister_roboto: which should be forwarding to the ubuntu box.
[06:06] <riotkittie> windows*
[06:06] <nburns> let me try rebooting the router.
[06:06] <Judicata> I vote for "exaile" to be added to that list.
[06:06] <n2diy> riotkittie: :)
[06:06] <nburns> mister_roboto: which will knock me off.. be back in a few.
[06:06] <beck> I can't get VLC to play .flv videos that other people can get to work, I have the plugins installed and everything.
[06:06] <arrenlex> alyssa_: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Different_usplash
[06:07] <arrenlex> alyssa_: It looks hard. Google for "custom usplash"
[06:07] <homer> whats the name of the program that gives the ubuntu menu
[06:07] <n2diy> riotkittie: I got one for you, here it comes.
[06:07] <homer> when you boot the CDROM
[06:08] <riotkittie> i reboot at least twice a day , though:\
[06:08] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[06:08] <jewel> n2diy: Are you connecting to it remotely through nautilus?
[06:08] <alyssa_> arrenlex: well, I ll try. Just a eye-candy which I wanted to try.
[06:08] <gecko_> ugh.. how can i transfer over to kubuntu server?
[06:08] <n2diy> jewel, yes.
[06:09] <jewel> n2diy: one second let me try
[06:09] <beck> I can't get VLC to play .flv videos that other people can get to work, I have the plugins installed and everything.
[06:09] <riotkittie> n2diy:  ah yeah, i saw you mention that earlier. i have no clue whats going on there :\
[06:09] <n2diy> riotkittie: yuck, no uptime.
[06:09] <hhhjr> evening, can someone tell me how to find my .config file? please
[06:10] <jewel> n2diy: You're right, it doesn't work for me either
[06:10] <beterraba> how i do to install some hypotetic program? like javaruntime or a mp3 player, or anything else. what do u usually do when u need a program? i also tried "sudo aptitude upgrade" and i've searched on symptatic for these programs but i found nothing. :( help?
[06:10] <beck> GD IT.
[06:10] <alyssa_> jewel: n2diy, arrenlex, thanks for your help buddies. I got to go now.
[06:10] <jewel> n2diy: But it does work if I rename it to have a .txt extension
[06:10] <alyssa_> jewel: n2diy, arrenlex, bye for now.
[06:10] <n2diy> jewel, ok, I think it has something to do with local file associations?
[06:10] <arrenlex> alyssa_: See you!
[06:10] <NeoGeo64> So is anyone here planning on getting Windows Vista?
[06:10] <n2diy> alyssa_: nada.
[06:10] <jewel> alyssa_: Take care
[06:11] <jewel> n2diy: OK here's what you do
[06:11] <hhhjr> where should .config be?
[06:11] <homer> hello
[06:11] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: I think you're in the wrong channel by about 2 networks :)
[06:11] <homer> ok when you boot the ubuntu CD
[06:11] <homer> there is a menu right
[06:11] <homer> is that menu part of the usplash package?
[06:11] <n2diy> jewel: yes, renaming works here too, but that is a PITA.
[06:11] <nburns> mister_roboto: well, the good news is that the xp ftp server is no longer working.. which it shouldn't be since all of the passive ports are forwarded to the ubuntu box.
[06:11] <jewel> homer: no
[06:11] <jewel> homer: It's part of isolinux
[06:11] <homer> ok
[06:11] <homer> isolinux
[06:11] <NeoGeo64> Windows Vista is supposed to be secure, is it
[06:11] <jewel> homer: (Or something like that)
[06:11] <mister_roboto> nburns: thatt's right
[06:11] <homer> I want to change the graphic of it
[06:12] <homer> that is why I ask
[06:12] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: Windows Vista is swimming with DRM and MS has taken ever greater efforts to prevent you from configuring any settings, ever.
[06:12] <jewel> n2diy: OK here's my take on it
[06:12] <oFF-beAt> NeoGeo64, if u trust NSA n microsoft for the past decade
[06:12] <jewel> homer: You're going to burn a new CD?
[06:12] <homer> yah
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> What is DRM
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> is that like GNU
[06:12] <homer> yes
[06:12] <oFF-beAt> digital rights management
[06:12] <wastrel> sortof the opposite
[06:12] <ctothej> hehe
[06:12] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: Digital Rights Management. It's when they prevent you from using what you paid for.
[06:13] <riotkittie> DRM = Digital (You as a consumer have no) Rights MAnagement :P
[06:13] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: No! XD It's like copy protection.
[06:13] <jewel> n2diy: When it's a local file without an extension then it looks at the first bit of the file to see what type it is
[06:13] <jewel> n2diy: But when it's remote it doesn't do that because it would be too slow
[06:13] <NeoGeo64> what are they trying to prevent users from doing
[06:13] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: Putting files into different formats. Copying files. Backing files up. Giving files to others.
[06:13] <jewel> NeoGeo64: An example of DRM is the ebooks that will only let you print them once
[06:13] <oFF-beAt> NeoGeo64, 1. caz they r evil. 2. caz they think somebody else cud do a better job if source is open
[06:13] <n2diy> jewel: bits? OMG, machine language isn't in my future! :)
[06:14] <NeoGeo64> well that is not very good.
[06:14] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: Like music. Have you noticed that music downloaded from itunes can't be saved as any other format, won't play on anything but the ipod and itunes, and won't play on anyone else's computer?
[06:14] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: That's DRM.
[06:14] <homer> yeah isolinux looks like a bootloader specifically for CDs
[06:14] <jewel> n2diy: So try right clicking on a remote file with no extension
[06:14] <hhhjr> I need some help I am following a guide to recompile the edgy kernel to 2.6.19.1 and and when I try to copy the .config file to configure the new kernel it returnd file not found any help where it is hiding? please
[06:14] <hivemind> Yo?
[06:14] <NeoGeo64> arrenlex, ive heard of that but i do not have an ipod
[06:14] <jewel> n2diy: Go to the "Open With" tab
[06:14] <hivemind> Can you all see my text?
[06:14] <jewel> n2diy: See if that works
[06:14] <jewel> hhhjr: files that start with a dot are hidden files
[06:15] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management <-- a fair and balanced look at everything you need to know and more
[06:15] <hivemind> =D
[06:15] <jewel> hhhjr: You can see them by typing ls -l
[06:15] <oFF-beAt> NeoGeo64, not only ipods.. microsoft Zune also has DRM.. u can't use it's wifi effectivley
[06:15] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: Or the stupid version: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management
[06:15] <homer> they just added more DRM to the Zune
[06:15] <NeoGeo64> the Zune sucks
[06:15] <oFF-beAt> caz after abt 5 sends or so.. u have to pay
[06:15] <homer> via a firmware upgrade
[06:15] <homer> :P
[06:15] <hhhjr> yes i know I tried to find it with ls -a but I cannot locate it
[06:15] <hivemind> =O
[06:15] <hivemind> My wireless works!
[06:15] <riotkittie> well, you didnt expect efficiency from MS, did you? :P
[06:15] <NeoGeo64> does anyone know how i activate ubuntu 6.10? like xp?
[06:15] <homer> now you cant "squirt" songs produced by Universal or Sony BMG
[06:15] <NeoGeo64> where do i click?
[06:15] <oFF-beAt> NeoGeo64, soft of wifi in zune is there for showing
[06:15] <homer> at all
[06:15] <n2diy> jewel: been their, done that, and it doesn't stick. Gedit isn't even an option, but I added it manually, but it still doesn't work. I think I need to log off, and sudo it?
[06:16] <stranger_stone> jrib is xchat not secure to be unnistalled from the security
[06:16] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: You mean you can't activate your Ubuntu?!
[06:16] <hivemind> Many thanks alyssa_ and n2diy!
[06:16] <arrenlex> NeoGeo64: That means you stole it! You didn't pay for it! They will be after you!
[06:16] <jrib> stranger_stone: it's fine afaik
[06:16] <stranger_stone> and put in the universal?
[06:16] <NeoGeo64> arrenlex, lol
[06:16] <oFF-beAt> ubuntu needs activation ?
[06:16] <jewel> n2diy: No, I don't think so... let me see what I can dig something up
[06:16] <n2diy> hivemind: nada
[06:16] <nburns> mister_roboto: ugh, but i still have the same error on the ubuntu side.
[06:16] <homer> hey guys I lost my ubuntu serial code, anyone know where to get an activation crack for ubuntu?
[06:16] <stranger_stone> jrib ok  :)
[06:17] <hivemind> ^_^ I'm going to switch to windows and export my Firefox bookmarks into an html file, bbiab
[06:17] <oFF-beAt> homer, lol
[06:17] <NeoGeo64> yes i admit it i got my copy of ubuntu off the interweb and burned it to a cdr
[06:17] <hhhjr> the .config should be in/use/src/linux correct?
[06:17] <NeoGeo64> i didnt pay a dime
[06:17] <homer> NeoGeo64: pirate
[06:17] <khpylon> how do I get a list of installed packages using apt?
[06:17] <jewel> khpylon: dpkg -l
[06:17] <homer> that is a good question
[06:17] <homer> oh
[06:17] <khpylon> thx!
[06:17] <NeoGeo64> i got my copy of xp off kazaa.
[06:17] <n2diy> homer: www.crackubuntu.com
[06:17] <mister_roboto> nburns: what's the error again?
[06:18] <NeoGeo64> still have it too
[06:18] <jewel> hhhjr: Try this: find / -xdev -name .config
[06:18] <mister_roboto> nburns: do you have netcat installed? you could do a simple sanity check by opening a listening socket on your server, something up high, and verify that the client can connect to it
[06:18] <oFF-beAt> NeoGeo64, ubuntu.com  and read abt ubuntu
[06:18] <nburns> mister_roboto: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[06:18] <stranger_stone> Just one stupid more question ... i like one theme i se in one distro so i download install and ... the theme that was installed in some last gnome version works whith al and now in ubuntu whith more advanced version the theme don`t work all :x and don`t show some functions :\
[06:19] <hhhjr> jewl i'll try it but what is it and thanks
[06:19] <NeoGeo64> I've been using Linux since Mandrake 8.1 :P
[06:19] <NeoGeo64> I remember GNOME 1.4
[06:19] <nburns> mister_roboto: that's after i authenticate and try to do an 'ls'
[06:19] <wastrel> luckily i've memorized the release dates of all the releases of all the major linux distros
[06:20] <mister_roboto> nburns: what about the little experiment with netcat?
[06:20] <ctothej> what beryl setting allow me to change the number of desktops?
[06:21] <jewel> hhhjr: that just finds files with the name of ".config"
[06:21] <mister_roboto> ctothej: i've always wondered what the rotating cube would look like if they allowed that. i figured they don't allow it
[06:21] <jewel> hhhjr: It might take a second to run
[06:21] <hhhjr> jewel ok thanks
[06:21] <n2diy> ctothej: right click on the desktop icon, and play with properties?
[06:21] <frogzoo> stranger_stone: you might be missing the engine that makes it tick
[06:21] <CraZy675> whats the trick to installing flash player?
[06:22] <ctothej> There is a setting in General Options called Number of Desktops, but changing it is not doing anything.
[06:22] <n2diy> ctothej: right click on the desktop icon, and play with properties?
[06:23] <CraZy675> nm figured it out
[06:23] <frogzoo> ctothej: best leave that at 1, a desktop is a cube, there's a different option for number of faces
[06:23] <ctothej> n2diy: i am in the Beryl Settings Manager
[06:23] <nburns> mister_roboto: i tried to telnet to port 60000 from an external server.. netcat picked up the connection.
[06:23] <n2diy> ctothej: right click on the desktop icon, and play with properties?
[06:23] <nburns> so the high ports are definitely forwarding properly now.
[06:23] <ctothej> frogzoo: ok ill keep it at 1
[06:23] <mister_roboto> nburns: ok, that's good news. i guess it must be a proftpd config issue now? i don't use it   <shrug>
[06:24] <wolfwalker> Just checking: Is Ubuntu more stable than Kubuntu? I know they're supposed to be the same OS with different interfaces, but I'm running both on dual-boot and it seems to me Ubuntu does things better, faster, and more dependably.
[06:24] <ctothej> what are the Horizontal Virtual Size andVertical Virtual Size options?
[06:24] <wolfwalker> Anyone else noticed that, or am I just full of horse-pucky?
[06:24] <homer> wolfwalker: they have the same exact base and kernel
[06:24] <homer> maybe you think
[06:24] <homer> KDE is more buggy
[06:24] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: gnome is ubuntu's default, so maybe gets more polish
[06:24] <homer> which I may agree with you
[06:25] <stranger_stone> frogzoo the engine? so the engine is old version is that? i think alll cames in the theme :X duno that is need to upgrade the engines :x
[06:25] <homer> it does
[06:25] <n2diy> wolfwalker: it is my understanding that kubuntu has less support than ubuntu.
[06:25] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| exactly! It seems Kubuntu was just a slapped-on cover for Ubuntu
[06:25] <homer> but most of the non-DE packages from both distros
[06:25] <homer> are exactly the same
[06:25] <homer> ubuntu is ubuntu with GNOME packages and kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE packages
[06:25] <mister_roboto> i've been running kde for years with absolute no problems
[06:25] <wolfwalker> Or at least that's how it feels to me
[06:25] <frogzoo> stranger_stone: apt-cache search gnome |grep engine
[06:26] <stranger_stone> frogzoo probably you right :) thank you i need to check this
[06:26] <mister_roboto> slapped on cover     lmao
[06:26] <beterraba> what i use to self-extract binary files??
[06:26] <beterraba> plz
[06:26] <beterraba> :)
[06:26] <beterraba> files .bin
[06:26] <wolfwalker> Well I was using K first, and I was getting a bit discouraged about the failure with my DSL modem and ethernet connection
[06:27] <wolfwalker> But I think I'll try again with Ubuntu
[06:27] <n2diy> beterraba: are you in
[06:27] <homer> I have both installed
[06:27] <n2diy> x
[06:27] <beterraba> n2diy,
[06:27] <wolfwalker> Maybe there's hope for me yet to finally leave Winblows
[06:27] <beterraba> n2diy, what do u mean?
[06:27] <homer> lol
[06:27] <jewel> n2diy: I think it's just a bug in nautilus
[06:27] <mister_roboto> wolfwalker: that has absolutely nothing to do   with the desktop environment
[06:27] <wolfwalker> I know
[06:27] <n2diy> beterraba: are you in X? right click on it .
[06:27] <homer> your ethernet isn't dedected?
[06:27] <homer> wireless?
[06:28] <wolfwalker> But it failed in Kubuntu, so I'll try with Ubuntu. Couldn't hurt.
[06:28] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: do you use pppoe ?
[06:28] <beterraba> what means "be in x"?
[06:28] <beterraba> sorry..
[06:28] <wolfwalker> Yeah, I had an ethernet cable from modem to computer, ran sudo pppoeconf
[06:28] <beterraba> im nb.
[06:28] <wolfwalker> No luck
[06:28] <beterraba> :(
[06:28] <beterraba> 2 days linux.
[06:28] <homer> hmm
[06:28] <beterraba> n2diy.
[06:28] <wolfwalker> I am more of a newbie than you beterraba
[06:28] <m12> anyone know where to find a log of my recent print jobs?
[06:28] <wolfwalker> Betcha, betcha, betcha
[06:28] <n2diy> jewel: I'm suspecting that too. There is a similar bug with samba, and I'm wondering if they are related?
[06:29] <verve> do any of you use Revelation for Gnome?
[06:29] <verve> that password manager
[06:29] <wolfwalker> Took me a solid half a day to even find the command prompt
[06:29] <beterraba> n2diy, what do u mean "be in x"?
[06:29] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: I gotta head, but you need to fix your /etc/network/interfaces - google for a sample that works with pppoe
[06:29] <n2diy> beterraba: are you in X? right click on it, and extract it.
[06:29] <mister_roboto> beterraba: it means you're running X, the graphical environment, rather than a comman line only console (looks like the old dos screen)
[06:29] <beterraba> yes! im in x!
[06:29] <beterraba> :D
[06:29] <beterraba> haha
[06:29] <beterraba> thanks
[06:29] <beterraba> i will try.
[06:29] <n2diy> beterraba: are you at a command line, or GUI?
[06:29] <homer> wolfwalker: try this software
[06:29] <homer> apt-get install yakauke
[06:29] <homer> did I spell that right?
[06:30] <Smirnov> how do i check what daemons start
[06:30] <homer> !yakauke
[06:30] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:30] <homer> nope
[06:30] <wolfwalker> Um........... I did mention I can't connect to the internet on my Linux computer
[06:30] <Smirnov> How do I check if a daemon in /etc/init.d starts when I turn my computer on or not?
[06:30] <wolfwalker> I'm on Windoze right now
[06:30] <homer> oh
[06:30] <homer> well
[06:30] <riotkittie> just type sudo apt-get install yak and then hit tab :p
[06:30] <wolfwalker> But I hope to be M$ free before the week is out
[06:30] <homer> it's a pretty cool program
[06:30] <wolfwalker> What does it do?
[06:30] <beterraba> n2diy, i've tried right click, bute there's no option "extract"
[06:30] <riotkittie> but if youre using gnome, use tilda instead
[06:30] <n2diy> Smirnov:  read /var/log/dmesg
[06:30] <wastrel> what's yakauke
[06:31] <homer> I didn't spell it right
[06:31] <homer> anyone know how to spell it?
[06:31] <riotkittie> wastrel: its a terminal. it drops down like ... terms in quake or first person shooters
[06:31] <n2diy> beterraba: open?
[06:31] <homer> !yakauke
[06:31] <wastrel> yakuake
[06:31] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:31] <mister_roboto> Smirnov: you could always look for the process with "ps -ef" first to see if it got started, if that's what you mean... if you don't know whether it started
[06:31] <homer> !yakuake
[06:31] <wastrel> apt-cache search yak
[06:31] <ubotwo> yakuake - Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[06:31] <wolfwalker> Wastrel........... I like that
[06:31] <homer> it works with GNOME too
[06:31] <beterraba> n2diy, so it try to open with gedit, where it shouldn't.
[06:31] <nburns> mister_roboto: ugh.. finally.. looks like it's working now.
[06:31] <wolfwalker> lol
[06:32] <mister_roboto> nburns: so what did you change?
[06:32] <homer> !kuake
[06:32] <ubotwo> kuake - Console which looks like Quake game console - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[06:32] <wolfwalker> So yakuake is basically Kubuntu interface in Ubuntu?
[06:32] <nburns> mister_roboto: pulled out the MasqueradeAddress directive from proftpd.conf
[06:32] <riotkittie> yeah but when i tried to install yakauke it wanted to download a ton of Qt/KDE things
[06:32] <homer> no it's a nice terminal thing
[06:32] <homer> riotkittie: maybe "kuake" is for gnome
[06:32] <n2diy> beterraba: open with archive manager?
[06:32] <mister_roboto> nburns: good job!  glad you got it going :)
[06:32] <riotkittie> so i went with tilda instead and there was nothing else i had to install
[06:32] <homer> I can't explain it
[06:32] <homer> it's really cool
[06:32] <wolfwalker> !tilda
[06:33] <jarn> How do I find out what node I need to mount for a device?
[06:33] <ubotwo> tilda - Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[06:33] <nburns> mister_roboto: which is _really_ strange, because every where i read about getting proftpd working behind a router said that you needed that directive
[06:33] <beterraba> n2diy, i need a archive manager, so?
[06:33] <riotkittie> homer: eh, probably. perhaps i will install and chk it out but i am happy with tilda :P
[06:33] <wolfwalker> Why would I need more terminals? Ubuntu seems kinda cool
[06:33] <mister_roboto> nburns: couldn't tell you :)
[06:33] <homer> tilda
[06:33] <homer> ok
[06:33] <wolfwalker> Or will I get bored with it?
[06:33] <n2diy> beterraba: no, right click on the flie, and open with archive manager?
[06:33] <wastrel> presumably they are used to the terminals in shooter games
[06:33] <n2diy> flie/file*
[06:33] <nburns> mister_roboto: so it must've been a combination of that, and all of the passive ports still forwarding to the xp box (despite the router saying otherwise)
[06:33] <wolfwalker> I like the Ubuntu chocolate background best, btw
[06:33] <homer> I like downloading garabage
[06:33] <wolfwalker> Yum!
[06:33] <nburns> mister_roboto: in any case, thanks for the help!!
[06:34] <homer> I have like
[06:34] <homer> 5000 packages installed
[06:34] <wolfwalker> I have a list of things to download
[06:34] <riotkittie> wolfwalker: because terminals are your  friend.  or because some terminals are more ... efficient at times than others
[06:34] <homer> lol
[06:34] <wolfwalker> Audacity music editor
[06:34] <mister_roboto> nburns: yes, so what was the deal with the forwarded ports? did you havee to do anything to make that start working?
[06:34] <riotkittie> brb .
[06:34] <n2diy> !enter | homer
[06:34] <wolfwalker> sound-konverter
[06:34] <ubotwo> homer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:34] <hivemind> Woot, gentlemen and ladies.
[06:34] <hivemind> Woot indeed.
[06:34] <nburns> mister_roboto: i just rebooted the router.  and then i guess it was able to pick up on the updated forwarding settings.
[06:35] <wolfwalker> Actually, that's another thing. Ubuntu had some things by default that I was going to download for Kubuntu
[06:35] <wolfwalker> :)
[06:35] <riotkittie> ehhh. kuake wants to download 17 mb of kde files :p
[06:35] <mister_roboto> nburns: well all your clients should be happy now :)
[06:35] <nburns> mister_roboto: haha, yea. again, thanks for the help.
[06:35] <mister_roboto> nburns: np
[06:35] <wolfwalker> Say, by the way, an internet question:
[06:36] <wolfwalker> Does Ubuntu have USB drivers for my modem?
[06:36] <wolfwalker> Or will I have to go through ethernet?
[06:36] <n2diy> ! hardware | wolfwalker
[06:36] <ubotwo> wolfwalker: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:36] <wolfwalker> Neat!
[06:36] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[06:36] <wolfwalker> !botsnack
[06:36] <ubotwo> Yum!
[06:37] <wolfwalker> Good boy
[06:37] <n2diy> wolfwalker: nada
[06:37] <ctothej> Beryl's skydome picture isnt showing. anything i can do?
[06:37] <hivemind> Is there a way to run a program with root privileges on startup?
[06:37] <stranger_stone> frogzoo is need one engine even if we downlod the controls and window border?
[06:38] <wolfwalker> Don't see modems here. Would it be under wired network cards?
[06:38] <beterraba> how do i execute a file with .bin termination?
[06:39] <wolfwalker> Don't ask me, I'm a fellow newbie
[06:39] <wolfwalker> But I'm liking Linux more and more all the time
[06:40] <SergoTT> what is the most powerfull distro?
[06:40] <wolfwalker> Depends what you want to do with it
[06:40] <beterraba> how do i execute a file with .bin termination? :( help?
[06:40] <mister_roboto> beterraba: bash <file.bin>
[06:40] <n2diy> SergoTT: the one you use.
[06:40] <wolfwalker> What is the intended use? Gaming? Audio editing? Hacking someone else's computer?
[06:41] <beterraba> mister_roboto, ok thanks, i will try
[06:41] <wolfwalker> For me, I'm a music nut. Ubuntu is perfect for me
[06:41] <wolfwalker> And besides.......... I like the Ubuntu Chocolate background :P
[06:41] <hivemind> Is there a way to run a program with root privileges on startup?
[06:41] <SergoTT> i think to use xubuntu becouse my pc is a little slow and want to ask if there are security updates
[06:42] <SergoTT> for xubunt
[06:42] <SergoTT> u
[06:42] <SergoTT> xubuntu
[06:42] <mister_roboto> hivemind: if you always want it to run as root, you could chown it to root and then set the suid bit "chown u+s"
[06:43] <mister_roboto> hivemind: oops, i mean chmod u+s :)
[06:43] <hivemind> mister_roboto, Heh. I have no idea what that means, but I'll do some googling, thanks.
[06:43] <wolfwalker> Okay, I got to here: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=Cayman+3341
[06:43] <wolfwalker> Now how do I download it?
[06:43] <mister_roboto> hivemind: like so:  chown root <file> && chmod u+s <file>
[06:44] <hivemind> Right, but what does u+s do?
[06:44] <hivemind> I'm used to 600, 700, etc etc
[06:44] <mister_roboto> hivemind: the effective user id of the process will be that of the owner when it executes
[06:45] <mister_roboto> hivemind: it's like 1755   where the "1" is the suid bit
[06:45] <jbinder> is there a log of like... internet connection-ness?
[06:45] <jbinder> that tells you when you got disconnected/reconnected?
[06:45] <hivemind> Ah!
[06:46] <hivemind> *goes off to find the binary*
[06:46] <mister_roboto> hivemind: 7 = 4 + 2 + 1 = u + g + o in the symbolic names
[06:46] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[06:46] <mister_roboto> hivemind: and the extra 1 at the very beginning is the suid bit.  personally, i find the symbolic names a little more convenient
[06:46] <wolfwalker> |n2diy:| I got this far: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=Cayman+3341 Do I download it or is it already in Ubuntu (Edgy)? If I download it, how?
[06:47] <n2diy> wolfwalker: wait, let me look.
[06:47] <mister_roboto> hivemind: say if you just want to turn off write access for anyone but the owner, you can just do chmod go-w <file>   without knowing exactly what each bit it to start with. something you can't do using the numbers
[06:47] <stranger_stone> frogzoo you right i see thanks :)
[06:48] <hivemind> Nice
[06:48] <hivemind> That's helpful
[06:48] <n2diy> wolfwalker: I have no idea, sorry.
[06:49] <wolfwalker> What is netdev?
[06:50] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, How you are trying open the file ? In file manager or terminal
[06:50] <n2diy> ! netdev
[06:50] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:50] <wolfwalker> It says to configure the netdev. What is that and where is it? Do I do this instead of running pppoeconf?
[06:50] <wolfwalker> Here's what it says:
[06:50] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: nautilus.
[06:50] <wolfwalker> Basic functionality is supported - just plug, configure the netdev and you are on. It is not known if this device has any settings at all, vendor refused to provide any support.
[06:50] <wolfwalker> !netdev
[06:50] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:51] <MacLinuxMaster> I may help, because I connect myself in a box via ssh in a terminal. I never had tried to do this in nautilus. I will try
[06:51] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, I may help, because I connect myself in a box via ssh in a terminal. I never had tried to do this in nautilus. I will try
[06:51] <brian98> does ubuntu run on intel macs yet or just use parallels (which is fine btw!)
[06:52] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, How you type the address of the remote machine in nautilus ?
[06:52] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: roger, caught you on the first try. Nautilus is nice, since it gives you the GUi. Wait...
[06:53] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: ctrl+l
[06:53] <arrenlex> WOW 0_0
[06:53] <arrenlex> I just had a crash even skinny elephants couldn't get me out of.
[06:53] <arrenlex> I had to use the reset button...
[06:53] <arrenlex> It was so disorienting. I was like... am I running W95 again?
[06:53] <arrenlex> And my mind said no, but my heart said yes ;___;
[06:53] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, Is like ssh://remotemachineadress ?
[06:53] <arrenlex> Comfort me.
[06:53] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: But the way I'm now doing it is with /places/network/....
[06:54] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: ssh://user@ipaddress.
[06:54] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, The problem is i don't use nfs
[06:54] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: roger
[06:54] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, Do you want to do this without nfs ?
[06:54] <Twinxor> what's the command to get system temperature?
[06:55] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, Or better, do you may
[06:55] <witchgurl> is ntfs fully supported now in 6.10, like no worries?
[06:55] <wolfwalker> Wow!
[06:55] <wolfwalker> Linux can fully write in NTFS?
[06:56] <Twinxor> I know there was some simple CLI command to get the temperature
[06:56] <wolfwalker> Say it's true, oh say it's true!
[06:56] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: Tell you the truth, I've  been at this for 14 hours, it is late, and I'm going to get drunk, so it is your call? ;)
[06:56] <witchgurl> wolfwalker, I dunno but it gave me the option to make ntfs partitions during the install
[06:56] <wolfwalker> Yeah, that's standard
[06:56] <wolfwalker> But can it write to those ntfs formatted partitions?
[06:56] <witchgurl>  wolfwalker, oh I guess I didn't notice before
[06:57] <witchgurl> i dont know
[06:57] <witchgurl> i didnt try
[06:57] <witchgurl> it automounted it
[06:57] <wolfwalker> Well I think it was standard. I had Dapper and it did NTFS format
[06:57] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, Sorry man, for my poor english, I'm trying to help you. i want to know if its possible to access the files in nautilus only with ssh
[06:57] <witchgurl> but i didnt want to write anything to it incase it blew up
[06:57] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, In konqueror is possible
[06:57] <wolfwalker> Of course Dapper isn't so long ago, so what do I know?
[06:57] <noobie0057> does anyone know gimp? I can't paste, I get a selection not the image. Any ideas?
[06:57] <wolfwalker> GIMP is ultimately cool
[06:58] <surgy> i need an xbox hid driver for ubuntu can someone help?
[06:58] <wolfwalker> Unfortunately.......... that's about all I know. I've just tried it long enough to know I like it.
[06:58] <peija-kas> noobie0057 what do you mean, u cant oaste?
[06:58] <peija-kas> paste^
[06:58] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, I know how bad is when we don't find this kind of info
[06:58] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: Thanks, no konqueror here. It is time to put this to bed, and me, for tonighet, it is 0100 hrs here.
[06:59] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, here is 4:00
[06:59] <wolfwalker> I'm gone to bed y'all
[06:59] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, Brazil
[06:59] <noobie0057> In one image I can copy and paste (as normal),, but when I copy from one image and paste into a another. only the outline of the image is shown. The outline is a selection. I can drag the selection but the image is not there.
[06:59] <MacLinuxMaster> n2diy, luck to you
[06:59] <wolfwalker> Thanks n2diy for the hardware support link
[06:59] <wolfwalker> There is hope!
[06:59] <peija-kas> noobie0057 ill open my gimp
[06:59] <wolfwalker> :)
[06:59] <Chris1> hello everyone :D
[07:00] <noobie0057> peiha-kas: thanks
[07:00] <n2diy> MacLinuxMaster: Roger the 0400, I'm happy to have NFS playing, so, we'll tackle it later today, 73
[07:00] <Chris1> I'd just like to ask if anyone has tried the final flash 9 version yet?
[07:00] <cas3> how can I use firefox to browse svn source on the web
[07:00] <peija-kas> noobie0057 use the "Paste into" command
[07:00] <peija-kas> not normal paste
[07:00] <peija-kas> works for me
[07:01] <n2diy> wolfwaker: nada, take care.
[07:01] <surgy> i need help getting my controller to work
[07:01] <n2diy> wolfwalker: nada, take care.
[07:01] <noobie0057> peija-kas: yes I tried it
[07:01] <peija-kas> and doesnt work?
[07:01] <noobie0057> one image was a screen shot (copy) the other is an image I drew from scratch
[07:01] <cas3> does anyone know how can I use firefox to browse svn source on the web?
[07:01] <peija-kas> i just tried with 2 images
[07:02] <peija-kas> copied a part from one, pasted it onto the other with the Paste into
[07:02] <psYchotic> hey, I dunno what's wrong, but I can't set my resolution to anything but 1680x1050, I've changed my xorg.conf several times, I switched to another default depth, but it doesn't seem to help. Could someone help me out?
[07:02] <peija-kas> hmm normal paste works too
[07:02] <peija-kas> wonder what could be wrong with your gimp :/
[07:02] <noobie0057> I didn't try to copy paste in the other direction... I think perhaps the screen resolution is different in the two
[07:02] <_goofy_> im trying to install ENMS and i keep getting the error:c compiler cannot create executables......... whats wrong
[07:03] <peija-kas> that shouldnt matter
[07:03] <oFF-beAt> my close, maximize, minimize button at the top of the screen doesnt work
[07:03] <peija-kas> oFF-beAt are u using compiz/beryl?
[07:03] <oFF-beAt> but it works if i right click the window in taskbar
[07:03] <peija-kas> or normal window manager
[07:03] <oFF-beAt> peija-kas, yes i am
[07:03] <oFF-beAt> beryl
[07:03] <peija-kas> use Reload window manager from Beryl control center
[07:04] <peija-kas> sometimes it bugs like that
[07:04] <kristjans> okay i installed ubuntu and now the screen on lcd is
[07:04] <kristjans> off
[07:04] <Chris1> has anyone tried flash player 9? final which came out on the 17th
[07:04] <_goofy_> im trying to install ENMS and i keep getting the error:c compiler cannot create executables......... whats wrong
[07:04] <noobie0057> peija-kas: yes other direction works,. I guess that is good enough
[07:04] <kristjans> it should be about a centimeter to the left
[07:04] <wastrel> hi
[07:04] <surgy> i need help with xbox controller setup
[07:04] <oFF-beAt> yeah now works :D thanx
[07:05] <turbolover> i installed an extra hd as a slave and linux knows the drive exists but i cant see anything on it or format it
[07:05] <kristjans> any ideas how to adjust the screen position?
[07:05] <turbolover> fdisk wont open
[07:05] <turbolover> it
[07:05] <peija-kas> oki :) if it ever bugs in any way, reloading the window manager usually helps
[07:06] <Judicata> turbolover: I assume you've mounted it.
[07:06] <turbolover> yes
[07:06] <kristjans> hmm, restarting window manager didn't help. it's a totally clean install anyways
[07:06] <kristjans> first boot
[07:06] <Centaur5> Could somebody please tell me what this command does? mknod mknod ttyS0 c 4 64
[07:06] <Judicata> turbolover: Ok, I'm about to head out - just checking.
[07:07] <peija-kas> kristjans wasnt talking to you :)
[07:07] <kristjans> okay nvm then
[07:07] <kristjans> :)
[07:07] <turbolover> hmm what would i need to change so i could format this drive or at the very least see whats on it?
[07:08] <peija-kas> turbolover you tried to mount the disk manually
[07:08] <peija-kas> ?
[07:08] <turbolover> it was automounted
[07:08] <noobie0057> I'm off thanks for the help!
[07:08] <MacLinuxMaster> Caplain, IIRC this create a character device with minor number 4 and major number 64
[07:08] <peija-kas> hmm? and it wont let you view contents?
[07:08] <turbolover> and i cant unmount it
[07:08] <peija-kas> where is it automounted?
[07:08] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5,  IIRC this create a character device with minor number 4 and major number 64
[07:08] <SergoTT> hello
[07:08] <n2diy> Centaur5: if you don't know what it does, don't use it.
[07:09] <turbolover> through gnome it thinks it is a hot sdwappable drive but isnt, its an internal IDE
[07:09] <peija-kas> turbolover you tried sudo umount /dev/hdname?
[07:09] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: But it says that 64 is an extra operand
[07:09] <turbolover> yes
[07:09] <peija-kas> and it wont allow unmount
[07:09] <turbolover> Cannot create link /etc/mtab~
[07:09] <turbolover> Perhaps there is a stale lock file?
[07:09] <Centaur5> n2diy: I'm just trying to figure out why a howto I read isn't working properly and trying to fix it.
[07:09] <wolfwalker> Quick question y'all:
[07:09] <turbolover> thats what it says when i try to unmount it
[07:09] <peija-kas> hmm i dont know what to say
[07:09] <SergoTT> HeLllo
[07:09] <SergoTT> HeLLo
[07:09] <wolfwalker> When instructions say to go to directory src
[07:09] <n2diy> Centaur5: ok, good luck.
[07:09] <wolfwalker> Does that mean the command prompt?
[07:10] <psYchotic> ok, here I am again, still having these troubles with not being to change my resolution at all
[07:10] <peija-kas> wolfwalker it means go to direcotry /src, meaning if youre in console, type "cd /src"
[07:10] <psYchotic> despite many attempts to change my xorg.conf
[07:10] <peija-kas> and it will change working directory there
[07:10] <wolfwalker> Ah
[07:10] <Spee_Der> Centaur5: Read this page -->> http://www.happy-monkey.net/architect/system-scripts/dev/MAKEDEV
[07:10] <wolfwalker> I have no idea what that means, but I'll copy and paste what I should type
[07:10] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[07:11] <SergoTT> i want to ask if will be enought 248MB o RAM to use Ubuntu 6.10 and it soft?
[07:11] <peija-kas> wolfwalker if you would type "cd src" it would try to find a directory named src in the current dir
[07:11] <Centaur5> Spee_Der: okay, thanks
[07:11] <peija-kas> when you put the / first it means its under / (root) dir
[07:11] <peija-kas>  /src
[07:11] <SergoTT> i want to ask if will be enought 248MB o RAM to use Ubuntu 6.10 and it soft
[07:11] <wolfwalker> Well I'm a newb, so I don't know all that
[07:11] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I will look in man mknode
[07:11] <wolfwalker> 248 megs of ram should be enough
[07:11] <cas3> !beryl
[07:11] <ubotwo> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:11] <wastrel> it's a good idea to make a src dir under your homedir
[07:11] <wolfwalker> If your processor is good
[07:11] <peija-kas> SergoTT ive used ubuntu 6.10 with 192 megs and Gnome...it wasnt very smooth but very usable
[07:12] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I looked there and it didn't have anything stick out at me.
[07:12] <peija-kas> now i have Xfce and Ubuntu on that 192 meg machine
[07:12] <wastrel> and unpack sources there instead of /src
[07:12] <peija-kas> it works well
[07:12] <wolfwalker> I'm running 6.10 on a Pentium III with 256 megs ram. It's slow, but it runs
[07:12] <wolfwalker> And actually more stable than Windows
[07:12] <peija-kas> its more about the window manager also
[07:12] <wastrel> i have 512 rams
[07:12] <wolfwalker> Or so it seems right now
[07:12] <peija-kas> xfce ruyns better on older machines
[07:12] <wolfwalker> Thanks peija for the tip
[07:13] <wolfwalker> Night again y'all
[07:13] <peija-kas> on my premium machine (this one :) i have 1280 mb mem, P 4 2.8 Ghz
[07:13] <SergoTT> wolfwalker why you don't install kubuntu or xcafe?
[07:13] <SergoTT> xacfe
[07:13] <wolfwalker> I have both, Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[07:13] <SergoTT> xubuntu
[07:13] <wolfwalker> Ubuntu seems more stable
[07:13] <peija-kas> KDE imho is just as heavy as Gnome on the machine?
[07:13] <peija-kas> and KDE is ugly :p
[07:13] <SergoTT> i like more ubuntu
[07:13] <fjace> hello. I have an install problem.
[07:13] <wolfwalker> And I like the Ubuntu Chocolate background ^^
[07:13] <Stream30> hello
[07:14] <wolfwalker> Night
[07:14] <peija-kas> ask away fjace
[07:14] <fjace> I am freezing up at the "Adding live CD user..."
[07:14] <Spee_Der> night wolf
[07:14] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, very stranger,
[07:14] <Stream30> i'm trying to install virtual machine on me system
[07:14] <kristjans> isn't gnome supposed to be lightweight anyways?
[07:14] <Centaur5> Spee_Der: So based off that page putting mknod twice is improper?
[07:14] <peija-kas> lightweight no imho
[07:14] <wastrel> gnome isn't lightweight
[07:14] <peija-kas> indeed
[07:14] <kristjans> relatively
[07:15] <Spee_Der> Centaur5: Not sure really, as I have not read the page. Was just trying to be helpful.
[07:15] <devilsadvocate> fjace, how much ram do you have?
[07:15] <Centaur5> Spee_Der: Oh, alright.  :)  Thanks
[07:15] <devilsadvocate> kristjans, relative to what?
[07:15] <Stream30> but when i run ./vmware-install.pl... it tells me it's already installed
[07:15] <kristjans> devilsadvocate: KDE of course
[07:15] <Madpilot> fjace, when the LiveCd first boots, one of the options is "Test this CD" - have you run that check?
[07:15] <distro-tester> morning every one
[07:15] <peija-kas> Stream30 try running bmware
[07:15] <fjace> 256 maybe 368
[07:15] <peija-kas> vm
[07:15] <devilsadvocate> kristjans, i doubt that
[07:15] <fjace> I tried the test before, but I may run it again today...
[07:16] <distro-tester> ad like and advise for begginers it's better kde or gnome and witch one is more pretty as desk and has more programs?
[07:16] <Stream30> peija-kas: .... with this or i have to download it
[07:16] <surgy> ok well how do i calibrate a gamepad?
[07:16] <peija-kas> Stream30 i mean, you tried installing it once? and now you run the install script and it says it IS installed, right?
[07:17] <peija-kas> youve never run vmware yet?
[07:17] <Stream30> yes
[07:17] <Stream30> lol
[07:17] <peija-kas> try running it now? type "vmware" in console
[07:17] <peija-kas> what does it say then
[07:18] <Stream30> bash: vmware: command not found
[07:18] <peija-kas> ok so its not installed
[07:18] <Stream30> i installed the player this after noon
[07:18] <peija-kas> type "vm" and press tab
[07:18] <Stream30> and i did des-installed it
[07:19] <Stream30> vmstat?
[07:19] <peija-kas> thats something else i think
[07:19] <psYchotic> is there anoyone willing to help me with my resolution changing problem?
[07:19] <peija-kas> Stream30 what guide did u use for installing vmware
[07:19] <Stream30> wow
[07:19] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Hey in my system this happen aalso, but obviously is because the mknod typed twice
[07:19] <Stream30> 2 sec
[07:20] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Not sure if I can help, but what's the trouble ?
[07:20] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, You need to do this 'mknod ttyS0 c 4 64' as root
[07:20] <Stream30> http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/install.html
[07:20] <Stream30> it's on step 7
[07:20] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: well, I've tried many things, but none of 'em made it possible for me to change my resolution to anything but 1680x1050
[07:20] <peija-kas> ill have a look
[07:20] <distro-tester> thanx ubuntu for reading what i asked what a nice comunity ahah
[07:20] <Stream30> i did download it from demeoid
[07:20] <distro-tester> reply me at least
[07:20] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, I found out that instead of mknod twice it needed to be mknod -660
[07:21] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Unfortunately it didn't seem to fix my problem.  :)
[07:21] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Can you please pastebin your xorg.conf for me to see somewhere ?
[07:21] <Stream30> but i did also download it from te trial on vm
[07:21] <distro-tester> i asked u if it's better kde or gnome for begginers and wich is more pretty desktop and has more programs
[07:21] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: sure thing
[07:21] <Stream30> i only needed then keygen in fack from demoid
[07:21] <peija-kas> Stream30 are you using Player, Server or Workstation?
[07:21] <Stream30> workstation i did download
[07:21] <distro-tester> can some one read me where's the ubuntu gone ahah
[07:22] <peija-kas> the version that costs??
[07:22] <Stream30> i looked in synaptic
[07:22] <fjace> I had 9 checksums fail...
[07:22] <peija-kas> synaptic has Player
[07:22] <kristjans> hmm, ubuntu boot screen (ubuntu text with loading bar under it) is grayscale for me
[07:22] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2244/
[07:22] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Why ? What happens ?
[07:22] <beterraba> how i copy a paste with sudo?
[07:22] <Stream30> no... but theres the player in add-remove in application
[07:22] <Stream30> but i did removed it
[07:22] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I need a fresh cup of coffee. Be right back and then read that to see if there needs changing.....   Hang on....
[07:22] <Stream30> from the install i did this after noon
[07:22] <beterraba> hello, how i copy a paste with sudo?
[07:22] <distro-tester> HELLO
[07:22] <distro-tester> CAN SOME ONE READ ME?
[07:23] <vinboy> hi
[07:23] <vinboy> how
[07:23] <linux_user400354> i wish ubuntu had something like system-config-services in fc because bum is not finding a lot of services including the ssh server
[07:23] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I guess I have time since I don't think I could ever sleep before fixing this
[07:23] <Madpilot> distro-tester, no need to shout...
[07:23] <peija-kas> Stream30 have a look at this guide too.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware+howto
[07:23] <vinboy> how do I install aMule CVS?
[07:23] <beterraba> hi, how do i copy a paste with sudo?
[07:23] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Well I followed a howto on getting a t-mobile gprs card to work but I'm getting connected and 60% of the packets give errors and it takes 500ms to ping yahoo.  I only have 2 days to get it to work or my dad gets back from vacation and has to go back to windows.
[07:23] <psYchotic> distro-tester: I personally like gnome better, but it's all about taste
[07:23] <Judicata> distro-tester: if you have a question ask it (without caps lock pls) and if someone can help you, they will.
[07:23] <peija-kas> Stream30 can you paste what exactly the install script says now when u run it?
[07:23] <distro-tester> sorry i fought u where ignoring me
[07:24] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Which OS are you using please ?
[07:24] <distro-tester> thanx
[07:24] <nwonknu-> Hello
[07:24] <cokeslut> sup
[07:24] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: edgy
[07:24] <distro-tester> well im starting now whit linux but like kde more is gnome more pretty and whit more programs that i nead?
[07:24] <beterraba> hi, how do i copy a paste with sudo?
[07:24] <nwonknu-> investigating
[07:24] <cokeslut> you tell me ;)
[07:24] <Judicata> distro-tester: if you like KDE more go with KDE.
[07:24] <peija-kas> Stream30 in that guide i linked, theres a part about failed uninstall/reinstall: "Uninstallation failed and reinstall won't work
[07:24] <peija-kas> [07:24] <peija-kas> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[07:24] <peija-kas> The previous installation was made by the tar installer (version 3).
[07:24] <peija-kas> Keeping the tar3 installer database format.
[07:24] <peija-kas> Error: Unable to execute "/usr/bin/vmware/vmware-uninstall.pl.
[07:24] <peija-kas> Failure
[07:24] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, ok .But this command will only create the device for the serial port, nothing more
[07:25] <peija-kas> Execution aborted."
[07:25] <peija-kas> look for that part
[07:25] <distro-tester> well i don't know gnome much wich of 2 has more programs over look?
[07:25] <psYchotic> distro-tester: I agree with Judicata, but it's very well possible to use KDE apps under gnome
[07:25] <Judicata> distro-tester: there is a big debate on which is "better" and not all of it has to do with functionality and looks.
[07:25] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, what is a t-mobile gprs ?
[07:25] <Stream30> but ok peija-kas... ill foloww your tuto
[07:25] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Okay. I'm not Edgy smart, yet. But, I see there are two calls in the xog.conf for SubSectionDisplay and wondering if only one is needed  perhaps ?
[07:25] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Also....
[07:25] <Stream30> ill comme back on it
[07:25] <distro-tester> i see
[07:25] <Stream30> working or not
[07:25] <Stream30> :)
[07:25] <Madpilot> distro-tester, you can run KDE apps in Gnome, and vice-versa, too
[07:25] <peija-kas> Stream30 that tutorial is for Server version, but i think itll work for Workstation too? im not sure...
[07:25] <peija-kas> ive only use vmware server
[07:25] <Stream30> ok ok
[07:25] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, while following the steps that was the only command that didn't work so I thought maybe it was the problem. t-mobile internet card
[07:25] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Are you using the System>Prferences>Screen Resolution to make this changes ?
[07:25] <peija-kas> but imho they should be pretty similar
[07:26] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Did you try it on windows or another system ?
[07:26] <Gartral> how do i restart the gnome panel?
[07:26] <twb> I say, is the screensaver supposed to engage while I'm busily typing away?  Does it only care about pointer input, and not keyboard input?
[07:26] <distro-tester> so as they are in the end brothers kde and gnome u can use all the programs in both and no one wins on who has more programs if i understood well right?
[07:26] <Stream30> and you can have a virtual machine oon server?
[07:26] <distro-tester> it's like to say it's better jesus or his father maby
[07:26] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, he had windows before and I'm trying to switch him to Linux without him knowing.
[07:26] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: yes
[07:26] <Judicata> distro-tester: umm...sure.
[07:26] <peija-kas> Stream30 Workstation version has some more fatures, Server works just fine with creating virtual machines
[07:26] <peija-kas> ive had a few linux virtual machiens and windows with Server
[07:26] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I also just added this second subsection to see if I could chaange the resolution while working with a depth of 16 bits
[07:26] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, try ls -l /dev/ttyS0 and see if it exist
[07:26] <Stream30> ok
[07:27] <Gartral> how do i restart the gnome panel?
[07:27] <peija-kas> Workstation has better shared folders support between host OS and virtual OS etc
[07:27] <Stream30> i'ill try it out first... and come back on this asap
[07:27] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, in windows what are the average ping, do you remember ?
[07:27] <psYchotic> Gartral: killall gnome-panel;gnome-panel
[07:27] <distro-tester> very intresting as jesus and father are same person in trynity kde and gnome then are same level ill try gnome then is it much difficult from us windows linux new users?
[07:27] <Stream30> ok ok
[07:27] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Ok. I'd try eliminating one of the calls in xorg.conf for SubSection Display and try setting default Depth 16 just for the heck of it, otherwise it looks fine.
[07:27] <Judicata> distro-tester: for example, I like gnome b/c I think it looks "cleaner" or "simpler" other people like KDE better because they feel it has more visible features.
[07:27] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I never tested but it would download at 15k/sec
[07:27] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: You try that and I'll get more hot coffee..... It's 1:30 a.m. 'ere and I'm almost awake....
[07:28] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: yeah, the device exists
[07:28] <Gartral> ok, now there both screwed up...
[07:28] <distro-tester>  well as i got an nvidia 7900GS can ubuntu support it?
[07:28] <nnn> Hi all, how can I get more information in log Samba (without using syslog)?
[07:28] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Sorry but this device is a wireless access point ?
[07:28] <Judicata> distro-tester: you'll have to learn a few more things, but gnome and kde are both easy to use.
[07:29] <distro-tester> it's one of the moast powerfull one the world my video card now
[07:29] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I 'm talking about the t-mobile
[07:29] <Judicata> distro-tester: I don't know the specific model, but usu. nvidia cards are great under linux.
[07:29] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: No, it works over the cell phone towers and uses the t-mobile gprs internet.
[07:29] <distro-tester> i see when does mark come to chat id love to meat him to say thanx and much more?
[07:29] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, So you don't need a router, ok
[07:29] <tim> hola all
[07:29] <Gartral> and i dont have right click function
[07:30] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Correct, it's basically a card that has a cell phone radio specifically for the internet.
[07:30] <Judicata> I either need some of that coffee or sleep
[07:30] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I'm thinking how to help you
[07:30] <Judicata> I think I'll choose the latter.
[07:30] <distro-tester> they told me some times u can find him on chat when he has time
[07:30] <Spee_Der> lol
[07:30] <distro-tester> btw i think it's the best that who made ubuntu chatts on ubuntu main world chans very helpfull
[07:30] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, talk a look on the ner and see if some people has this kind of problem. Tha downloads are always slow ?
[07:31] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: ok, I've tried, but it doesn't seem to really help, I'll try removing the 1680x1050 mode and see what happens
[07:31] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, *take
[07:31] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: No problem, this is a very complex situation.
[07:31] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Also, I'd just for the heck of it, drop the call in xorg.conf for that resolution value and go with a lower value.
[07:31] <Gartral> ok, now both panels are screwed up, and i cant add anything to them...
[07:31] <Spee_Der> Ok....
[07:31] <elefant> Could not open "opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[07:31] <elefant> Archive type not supported.
[07:31] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: The card is working so slowly that it can't even go to any web sites.
[07:31] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I mean take a look on the net
[07:31] <elefant> what does that mean =/
[07:31] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: How are you re-starting X please ?
[07:31] <distro-tester> btw i got a problem whit fedora core 6 as fedora chan is sleeping and no support can u solve me ?
[07:31] <distro-tester> i know im off topic
[07:32] <distro-tester> but it's still linux
[07:32] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Well the problem is there aren't any forums on the internet that talk about problems...I've only come across one specific howto.
[07:32] <elefant> Can someone help me?
[07:32] <Gartral> ok, now both panels are screwed up, and i cant add anything to them...
[07:32] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, One time I have one problem like this, because my dns settings
[07:32] <peija-kas> Stream30 im just installing VMware Server myself using that guide
[07:32] <peija-kas> so far so good ;)
[07:32] <distro-tester> i think ill stick to ubuntu btw i never seen a so big comunity and friendly plus i love the geek ubuntu philosofy
[07:32] <Spee_Der> elefant, what's up ?
[07:32] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: What did you do to fix it?
[07:32] <elefant> Could not open "opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[07:32] <elefant> Archive type not supported.
[07:32] <distro-tester> fedora comunity seems very cold and not socialist
[07:32] <kristjans> where does
[07:32] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, You are using the dns provided by your internet service provider ?
[07:33] <kristjans> gnome take its backgrounds by default?
[07:33] <distro-tester> krist mac can i ask u on fedora then for help?
[07:33] <elefant> i can download anything =/
[07:33] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, i modified my /etc/resolv.conf
[07:33] <elefant> cant
[07:33] <Spee_Der> Hmmmm
[07:33] <beterraba> hi, how do i copy a paste with sudo?
[07:34] <Gartral> i reset my gnome panels, and now both panels are screwed up, and i cant add anything to them...
[07:34] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, In my case the address of my adsl router (10.0.0.1) is causing a slowdown
[07:34] <peija-kas> yupp now i got working VMware server...
[07:34] <Vuen> hi, when i play dvds with kaffeine, the audio is out of sync. it plays fine in vlc, but vlc shows in on the wrong monitor. anyone know how to fix xine's sync problems?
[07:34] <distro-tester> the problem whit fedora 6 is that when i got to load os it tells me my resolution should be different for my lcd 17 but dosen't let me change it so can't load os i got nvidia 7900GS
[07:34] <distro-tester> any one able to help?
[07:35] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, make sure only dns servers that really exist are there
[07:35] <distro-tester> are u able to help mac?
[07:35] <Gartral> distro
[07:35] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Well ever since I did that command mknod -m660 ttyS0 c 4 64 I can't connect so now I'm farther away than I was.  :)
[07:35] <someothernick> !cp
[07:35] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[07:35] <someothernick> :/
[07:36] <beterraba> hello, how do i copy a paste?
[07:36] <someothernick> cp
[07:36] <beterraba> just it?
[07:36] <beterraba> ok
[07:36] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I don't know what goes but maybe you had overwritted  the serial port device, try rebooting
[07:37] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I'm restarting X by hitting ctrl+alt+backspace, but I also did restart gdm just to be sure
[07:37] <beterraba> how do i MOVE a paste?
[07:37] <Spee_Der> ok
[07:37] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I did a reboot
[07:37] <someothernick> mv
[07:37] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: no luck
[07:37] <beterraba> tanks
[07:37] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, ok
[07:37] <elefant> Why can't i download anything that has a .bin?....like i cant download java...
[07:38] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, you know what modules in kernel the t-mobile use ?
[07:38] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: it's really weird, I actually removed the mode for 1680x1050 from xorg.conf, and yet, it refuses to use anything but that resolution
[07:38] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: They say the card works with the serial_cs driver.
[07:38] <distro-tester> video drivers for my video card nvidia 7900GS are only for xp so is that ok on ubuntu?
[07:39] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I will take a look and return back
[07:39] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Yes, that is odd. Like I said I'm not Edgy smart, yet, but I too am working on a screen res problem with the 2nd monitor on a dual head video card.....
[07:39] <psYchotic> distro-tester: there's quite a good howto on wiki.ubuntu.com for binary drivers
[07:39] <distro-tester> but if i don't install them what happens will my card still be fine?
[07:39] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: it's funny, the reason why I'm trying to change my resolution is because I want TVOUT to work
[07:40] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Okay, thanks.  It's the Sony Ericsson GC89.
[07:40] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Are you on a lap-top ?
[07:40] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: yes
[07:40] <Gartral> help, my gnome panels have become totally nonresponsive
[07:40] <Spee_Der> Just for giggles, try #UseFBDev and see if that helps please.
[07:41] <riotkittie> Gartral: if youve got a term open... killall gnome-panel
[07:41] <psYchotic> Gartral: open a terminal, do "killall gnome-panel"
[07:41] <beterraba> how to DELETE a paste?
[07:41] <Gartral> i tryed that
[07:41] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: See where it allows UseFBDev ? # it out and re-start X and see what happens.
[07:41] <psYchotic> Gartral: what happens?
[07:41] <riotkittie> do it again :P
[07:41] <beterraba> hello
[07:41] <Gartral> (gnome-panel:15552): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed
[07:41] <beterraba> how to delete a paste?
[07:41] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I just commented that one out too, no luck either
[07:41] <Spee_Der> Grrrr
[07:41] <beterraba> plz, how to delete a paste? :)
[07:41] <psYchotic> beterraba: what kinda paste do you mean? one on the pastebin?
[07:41] <CorpseFeeder> i broke my cups printer setup somehow. I was trying to make the printer share.. I went to http://127.0.0.1:631/ and clicked manage server and I ticked a box on the right which said something about sharing a printer, then I clicked the change settings button and that killed it, now I can't get to any cups configuration page except the home page at http://127.0.0.1:631/
[07:42] <Gartral> wtf
[07:42] <beterraba> any paste
[07:42] <beterraba> just the command..
[07:42] <Stream30> hehe peija-kas... the removall worked... and the install almost worked
[07:42] <psYchotic> remove files is done with "rm"
[07:42] <psYchotic> Gartral: what happens when you killall gnome-panel?
[07:42] <beterraba> files?
[07:42] <Gartral> (gnome-panel:15552): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed
[07:42] <beterraba> what about pastes?
[07:43] <beterraba> hello, everybody. how to delete a paste?
[07:43] <psYchotic> beterraba: what do you mean by "pastes"? something that you have copied, or something you put on something like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:43] <Gartral> (gnome-panel:15552): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed
[07:43] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Did you see your card in the device manager (hal-debice-manager) ?
[07:43] <psYchotic> Gartral: sounds like you're having some kind of icon problem
[07:43] <MacLinuxMaster> *hal-device-manager
[07:44] <Gartral> meaning?
[07:44] <Gartral> im rather new to linux
[07:44] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, it's listed as 2 different Broadcom devices one for the wlan and the other for the gprs radio.
[07:44] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, good, so its working
[07:44] <psYchotic> Gartral: I'm not sure, I did a little bit of programming with Gtk+/Gdk, and pixbufs are objects that are used to store images somehow
[07:44] <CorpseFeeder> i can no longer access any cups configuration pages except the home page. Firefox just responds "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server..." if I click any link on the cups home page.
[07:45] <Stream30> here's there some one familiar with vm?
[07:45] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: After I get the gprs to work I'll see about the wlan but if that doesn't work it's no big deal cause he doesn't use it.
[07:45] <Stream30> virtual machine?
[07:45] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, click on it and see what modules it use (is only serial_cs ?
[07:45] <distro-tester> one thing i noticed whit suse fedora or madrivia is a very cold comunity is it couse they lacking of the ubuntu spirit?
[07:45] <psYchotic> Gartral: did you made some change right before this started to happen?
[07:45] <Gartral> no....
[07:45] <Gartral> last thing i added was geyes a month ago
[07:46] <psYchotic> Gartral: weird. You might want to log out, and back in again, just to see what happens
[07:46] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, How do you had configured your connection before ?
[07:46] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: It appears so.
[07:46] <Gartral> i tryed that ten times, the panels didnt even load
[07:46] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I followed this howto http://erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.txt
[07:47] <beterraba> i just need to delete a paste. :(
[07:47] <psYchotic> BTW, is there someone who can help me with my problem (not being able to change the resolution at all), coz Spee_Der has tried to help me, which I appreciate, but we can't figure it out
[07:47] <Gunslinger|Deags> hey i got a quick question i just installed wine and i wanted to install agame off a cd
[07:47] <Gunslinger|Deags> how do i go about doing that
[07:47] <psYchotic> Gunslinger|Deags: is the cd a physical disc, like, you put it in the cd tray?
[07:48] <Gunslinger|Deags> all i have done so far is go to the package and get it and yes its a physical cd
[07:48] <psYchotic> Gunslinger|Deags: try "wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe" or whatever the setup program might be
[07:48] <Gunslinger|Deags> ok one sec
[07:49] <Gartral> how do i broaden wine so it can run direct x programes?
[07:49] <Gartral> how do i broaden wine so it can run direct x programes?
[07:49] <psYchotic> Gunslinger|Deags: also keep in mind that wine might not be able to run your game
[07:49] <distro-tester> SEIG HEIL go ubuntu
[07:49] <Gunslinger|Deags> it was on the list i do believe
[07:49] <Gunslinger|Deags> warcraft 3
[07:49] <Gunslinger|Deags> is the game
[07:50] <psYchotic> yeah, I think it's supposed to work well
[07:50] <distro-tester> ok i think ill switch to ubuntu from fedora couse others seem dead cold comunity's
[07:50] <CorpseFeeder> don't worry. I sorted it. I deleted the printer using the gnome-cups-manager in System->Administration->Printers and just added it back again and now the cups configuration pages are working again.
[07:50] <psYchotic> Gunslinger|Deags: try seaching on the forums, I'm sure there's a howto for it
[07:50] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: So earlier I could connect and get an ip address but now the script complains the serial line is looped back and disconnects.
[07:50] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, You use ppp ?
[07:50] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, that's what the howto told me to use.
[07:50] <artbird309-> #kubuntu
[07:51] <Gartral> er
[07:51] <psYchotic> distro-tester: one thing I like about the ubuntu community is that they don't really care what distro you use, you could very well ask for help if you have troubles with another distro, but it's true that the best help is when you have troubles with ubuntu
[07:51] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, You had created the script ? Or is a ubuntu script ?
[07:52] <distro-tester> yes and the ubuntu spirit
[07:52] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I copied the scripts the guy used on his howto.
[07:52] <psYchotic> Gartral: by "broaden" you mean "enable it to run directx programs"? if so, it already sort of does, but if you want good support for more games, you should google for "cedega"
[07:52] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, ok
[07:52] <distro-tester> ok all ask are u able to help me whit fedora 6 ?
[07:52] <CorpseFeeder> i have another question. Why does cups think there is a canon connected to my parallel port #1 and an epson connected to parallel port #1 also? I have no printer connected to any parallel ports.
[07:52] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, try running dmesg|grep ttyS
[07:52] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, You have sure it use ttyS0 ?
[07:52] <distro-tester> i nead a simple thing to solve whit fedora spycho
[07:52] <distro-tester> mon kamerad ale'
[07:53] <psYchotic> distro-tester: I have no idea really, actually, I'm in here because I have a problem too, but while I'm here, I'm willing to try and help others too
[07:53] <distro-tester> blanc est la vie
[07:53] <psYchotic> distro-tester: we're like communists
[07:53] <distro-tester> very nice national socialist spirit
[07:53] <psYchotic> although I'm sure many aren't happy with the analogy
[07:53] <distro-tester> comunism is shit
[07:53] <psYchotic> see, that's what I mean
[07:53] <distro-tester> socialism is the way national socialsm
[07:53] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, dmesg says that a card was inserted and assigns it ttyS0 on irq 177
[07:53] <DBO> politics to ##politics
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic | distro-tester
[07:53] <ubotwo> distro-tester: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:53] <psYchotic> communism is very nice, in theory
[07:53] <distro-tester> no race mix but botherhood
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> Actually, DBO's is the more accurate.
[07:54] <Noah0504> Can anyone help me get my wireless bridge working with Ubuntu?  I've tested it on another computer running Windows and it worked fine, but I don't know what the problem is for Ubuntu.
[07:54] <Gunslinger|Deags> does anyone know how to find their cd key for warcraft 3 i left my jewel case at home and i cant dirve 4 hours to get it
[07:54] <distro-tester> haah spycho
[07:54] <Gunslinger|Deags> i have it installed on this computer and wanna get it for my other pc
[07:54] <mneptok> Gunslinger|Deags: wrong channel for that
[07:54] <psYchotic> anyway, I'ma ask again if someone could help me with my resolution changing problems (ie: I can't change my resolution to anything but 1680x1050)
[07:54] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Did you see the author need to put 57600 in the config ? This is equivalent to analog modem
[07:54] <distro-tester> btw important is to be socialists whatever u are a national socialist as me or normal one and support linux and open source animal right
[07:54] <Gunslinger|Deags> its part of my wine problem thought id ask
[07:54] <distro-tester> s
[07:54] <Gunslinger|Deags> lol
[07:55] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, But no one site work anymore
[07:55] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, that is in the tmobile script he created.
[07:55] <distro-tester> today im getting to political i must balance back
[07:55] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I will take a look in the script
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> yep
[07:55] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I could never go to a web site because all the packets get dropped.
[07:56] <psYchotic> gah, I'm getting frustrated because of this resolution thing. I know I changed it before, because it used to be like 1024x768, but I have NO IDEA why
[07:56] <mneptok> psYchotic: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old && suod dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <mneptok> xuedoiht
[07:56] <mneptok> psYchotic: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Your firewall is right configured ? Try iptables - L and see waht is printed
[07:56] <distro-tester> we got same problem spycho ahaha
[07:56] <psYchotic> mneptok: yeah, I've done that too
[07:56] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: How can I make the serial line no loopback?
[07:56] <mneptok> ^^
[07:56] <peija-kas> Stream30 almost worked? is there still something wrong?
[07:57] <mneptok> psYchotic: were you not asked which resolutions to enable?
[07:57] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, loopback ?
[07:57] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, it appear in ifconfig ?
[07:57] <distro-tester> i got same problem when i try to load fedora 6 tells me to put resolution for 17 lcd 10280x1024 60 hz but won't let me change any thing on lcd or mous or key board and i can't start to use fedora why?
[07:57] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Sorry I'm very confused
[07:57] <distro-tester> is this the same problem u have spycho?
[07:57] <psYchotic> mneptok: I was, but that's not the problem, I have enabled them all, or even if I enable just one (not 1680x1050), I still can't change the resolution to anything but 1680x1050
[07:57] <mneptok> distro-tester: ask in #fedora
[07:58] <distro-tester> 1280*
[07:58] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: yeah, the script keeps complaining that the serial line is looped back so it disconnects when I used to be able to connect and get an ip address.
[07:58] <distro-tester> they don'w aswer wish had comunity as u complite silence on fedora goast chan
[07:58] <distro-tester> that's why we all come to u ubunteros
[07:58] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, run ifconfig and see what interfaces are up
[07:58] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: iptables doesn't list any rules under INPUT FORWARD or OUTPUT
[07:59] <distro-tester> haah u know what i think ill trow fedora out the windows and pass to ubuntu
[07:59] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: just lo, I took eth0 down and ppp0 won't go up because it complains about the loopback.
[07:59] <distro-tester> im so crazy today but whit life power inside heil
[07:59] <distro-tester> 14/88
[07:59] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, iptables ok
[07:59] <oFF-beAt> fedora has very arrogant helpers in #fedora
[08:00] <distro-tester> yes
[08:00] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, but waht interfaces are up in this moment ?
[08:00] <oFF-beAt> best helpers in mandriva n ubuntu
[08:00] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I disabled lo so nothing is up
[08:00] <distro-tester> i got a live cd of last kubuntu here and ubuntu so wich one u think is best to beggin whit ?
[08:00] <distro-tester> they told me kubuntu is hard for new users better ubuntu
[08:01] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: It still complains about it being looped back though.
[08:01] <surgy> i cant seam to figure out how to properly configure my joypad
[08:01] <distro-tester> at least so said the test i took on linux desktop
[08:01] <surgy> can someone help?
[08:01] <distro-tester> mandrivia couse u $ off ahah
[08:01] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: I don't understand why things got worse after issuing that mknod command because I used to be able to connect prior to that.
[08:01] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, ok but lo is necessary, up it
[08:02] <oFF-beAt> distro-tester, these guys know better than me.. but i thought ubuntu n kubuntu r same only difference is ubuntu uses gnome.. kubuntu uses kde
[08:02] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Very strange, because mknod only create the file the points to the device,and how we see in device manager it is there
[08:02] <Gartral> im still having panel problems
[08:03] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, the loopback error appear in plog ?
[08:03] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
[08:03] <distro-tester> so yes i used kubuntu for kde few times but maby ubuntu is better for begginers
[08:03] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: plog?  What is that?
[08:03] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, How you are connecting, when you go use the gprs
[08:03] <distro-tester> and i see it more warm kubuntu is cold
[08:03] <distro-tester> ubuntu or kubuntu to be or not to be this is the problem
[08:03] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, plog print the ppp log, run that in a terminal
[08:03] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: pppd call tmobile
[08:04] <distro-tester> i like them both actualy
[08:04] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, Really sorry for I'm being so tech
[08:04] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: Nope, nothing prints when I type plog
[08:04] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: No, that's alright.  I'm learning new commands.  :)
[08:04] <distro-tester> btw all linux comunity suck full of snob geeks towards new users eccept the distros u $ and ubuntu
[08:05] <distro-tester> only thing u get from them is RTFM
[08:05] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, We may try see if some program is using ttyS0
[08:05] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, try lsof|grep ttyS0
[08:05] <oFF-beAt> distro-tester, no.. this channel is great.. i'm a newb too.. but they help me out in any problem i face..
[08:05] <oFF-beAt> RTFM?
[08:06] <Gartral> im still having panel problems, i cant do anything but restart them
[08:06] <distro-tester> yes i said in fact eccepet ubuntu comunity
[08:06] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: nothing shows up
[08:06] <Gartral> !RTFM
[08:06] <ubotwo> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:06] <distro-tester> RTFM0 = read the freaking manual
[08:06] <oFF-beAt> distro-tester, #fedora sux.. i know.. i've been there a couple of years back when i wanted to use fedora.. but they r too arrogant to help newbs
[08:06] <oFF-beAt> distro-tester, heheh ofcoz.. first thing shud b reading the manual
[08:06] <Gartral> HAH HAH!
[08:07] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, So for my understand, your situation is this, you run pppd call tmobile and ONLY the loopback error is printed
[08:07] <Gartral> im still having panel problems, i cant do anything but restart them
[08:07] <MacLinuxMaster> Centaur5, I think is better we go private
[08:07] <riotkittie> eh. ive never really had a problem with the linux community at large. people have been cool wherever i've gone. but maybe thats cos im a chick :D
[08:07] <riotkittie> but i do think ubuntu's community is the best, by far
[08:08] <Rageagainstthis> is there any good online linux magazines that anyone prefers, or printed?
[08:08] <oFF-beAt> riotkittie, yes.. ubuntu philosphy is great :P
[08:08] <Gartral> im still having panel problems, i cant do anything but restart them
[08:08] <psYchotic> riotkittie: I'm going to need your phone number =P
[08:08] <oFF-beAt> that's a thought! next time i need help.. i'd come back with a female nick :P
[08:09] <Gartral> im still having panel problems, i cant do anything but restart them
[08:09] <oFF-beAt> something like "linux-chick" these geeks r gonna b happy to help me then :D
[08:09] <oFF-beAt> not that they dun help me.. they does.. they r great so far
[08:09] <riotkittie> Gartral: did you do anything before these panel problems started - eg: change themes, add an applet, install new software?
[08:09] <Crankymonky> riotkittie, Get the phone so it doesn't ring and wake anyone up
[08:10] <Gartral> no
[08:10] <riotkittie> Crankymonky: my phone never rings. i hate the telephone :P
[08:10] <Gartral> oww
[08:10] <Byan> unno, people who say linux doesn't have laptop support are crazy
[08:10] <Byan> linux seems to support the laptop better then windows does ^.^
[08:10] <Gartral> LOL
[08:10] <psYchotic> Gartral: what?
[08:11] <Crankymonky> riotkittie, You sit by the phone waiting for a call that never comes?
[08:11] <Gartral> psY what?
[08:11] <psYchotic> Gartral: nothing. You might want to try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel"
[08:12] <Centaur5> MacLinuxMaster: are you getting my messages?
[08:12] <Gartral> trying now
[08:13] <Gartral> and hoping this dosent screw my computer up...
[08:13] <beterraba> help! i need to install JAVA RUN E. but i can't i've spended hours and hours, but i cant do this! :(
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> !java | beterraba
[08:13] <ubotwo> beterraba: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:14] <Gartral> and now what?
[08:14] <frankps> moin
[08:14] <frogzoo> I shutdown while OO was fullscreen, now it's decided it wants to be fullscreen all the time - even the hotkeys won't restore the window titlebar - is there a fix?
[08:14] <frogzoo> beterraba: on which release?
[08:14] <psYchotic> Gartral: now "killall gnome-panel" and then "gnome-panel"
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> psYchotic: the second is unnecessary - gnome-panel auto-respawns.
[08:15] <beterraba> frogzoo, my linux is 6.06
[08:15] <beterraba> !Multiverse
[08:15] <ubotwo> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:15] <psYchotic> tonyyarusso: ok, then Gartral: ignore the second part =P
[08:15] <frogzoo> !java | beterraba
[08:15] <frankps> Is there a repository for Windows wireless drivers?
[08:15] <ubotwo> beterraba: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:15] <Gartral> im still having the same problem
[08:16] <beterraba> there is no  sun-java5-jre on my synaptic! :(
[08:16] <LucianSolaris> doods, check out the videos on one of my new sites: http://www.sdillegalactivists.com
[08:16] <beterraba> and i already got the multiverse repository.
[08:16] <Gartral> im still having the same problem.... even after i reinstalle gnome panel
[08:16] <Flannel> beterraba: which version of ubuntu you running?
[08:16] <riotkittie> dood, spam your website elsewhere :P
[08:17] <beterraba> Flannel, 6.06
[08:17] <psYchotic> Gartral: then I have no idea what could solve your problem
[08:17] <Gartral> its not just gnome, its x and kde too
[08:17] <Flannel> beterraba: pastebin your sources.list please
[08:18] <beterraba> pastebin my sources? what do u mean? Flannel
[08:18] <Gartral> holdon, brb
[08:18] <Flannel> !paste | beterraba
[08:18] <ubotwo> beterraba: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <riotkittie> argh. if screen flashes at me one more time, i am going to go blind.
[08:18] <Flannel> view `/etc/apt/sources.list` and pastebin it, please
[08:18] <beterraba> ok
[08:18] <Flannel> beterraba: that means, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then copy/paste to that website
[08:19] <Gartral> im back
[08:20] <beterraba> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2249/
[08:22] <Flannel> beterraba: you have added multiverse for the backports (line 29), you need to add it to the regular repository (line 19)
[08:22] <beterraba> so, what i suppose to do, then? :)
[08:22] <beterraba> Flannel
[08:23] <Flannel> beterraba: you'll need to edit it (gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list), then add " multiverse"  after universe, on that middle line
[08:23] <beterraba> ok.
[08:23] <beterraba> thanks
[08:24] <beterraba> Flannel,  so it will be: deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe  multiverse?
[08:25] <ant> has anyone read ubuntu unleashed?
[08:25] <beterraba> Flannel,  so it will be: deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe  multiverse?
[08:25] <Flannel> beterraba: right
[08:25] <beterraba> ok
[08:28] <beterraba> Flannel, thanks, it's working, thank u very much!!
[08:28] <distro-tester> does last ubuntu 6.10 come whit java and flash player installed so u don't nead to install them?
[08:29] <Flannel> distro-tester: nope
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> !java | distro-tester
[08:29] <ubotwo> distro-tester: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> !flash | distro-tester
[08:29] <ubotwo> distro-tester: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <Flannel> !flash9 | distro-tester
[08:29] <ubotwo> distro-tester: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:29] <Grem|in> hello
[08:29] <elipticle> distro-tester, fwiw the flash 9 install is super simple
[08:30] <beterraba> Flannel, have u updated ur gaim or u use it in original version?
[08:30] <Flannel> beterraba: er.  I don't use GAIM
[08:30] <Grem|in> i need help about world of mangos
[08:30] <distro-tester> thanx important i can install ever thing click and run on ubuntu and rpm packages if i ever nead them same
[08:30] <devin_> Anyone testing Feisty?
[08:31] <Flannel> devin_: #ubuntu+1 has people with feisty
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> devin_: In #ubuntu+1
[08:32] <clinton> I dont suppose ubuntu can run world of warcraft?
[08:32] <distro-tester> do u have any screeshots im curius to see feisty
[08:32] <psYchotic> clinton: it can, actually
[08:32] <Flannel> distro-tester: #ubuntu+1
[08:32] <elipticle> distro-tester, I installed it from tarball, but iirc there is an rpm
[08:32] <beterraba> is faisty a game?
[08:32] <Flannel> !feisty
[08:32] <ubotwo> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:32] <Zaffe> lol
[08:33] <Grem|in> !mangos
[08:33] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[08:33] <Grem|in> :)
[08:33] <beterraba> if i already have my 6.06 version, how do i update?
[08:33] <clinton> psYchotic: interesting... I cant seem to make it work. Hints?
[08:33] <surgy> good night all
[08:33] <distro-tester> no im just curius to find screenshots of it maby distrowatch has them
[08:33] <psYchotic> clinton: I had to compile the cvs version of wine to get it to work
[08:34] <psYchotic> clinton: also check the forums, there are a few howto's
[08:34] <clinton> psYchotic: thankyou :)
[08:34] <psYchotic> welcome
[08:37] <distro-tester> who has any screeshots of feisty?
[08:37] <kristjans> hey i have both Driver "ati" and Driver "fglx" on my xorg.conf.. is it okay?
[08:38] <beterraba> kristjans, no. that means ur pc will explode in few 2 days. run!
[08:38] <rodrigo> hey centaurus5, are you there
[08:38] <kristjans> is it yes or no?
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> kristjans: I'd be very suspicious of that.
[08:40] <steelb> where does wine install stuff to by default?
[08:41] <Asl[a] n> what does a guy have to do around here to apt-get a good IM client for use on the LAN?
[08:41] <poulouf> .wine/drive_c/...
[08:41] <poulouf> (in home directory)
[08:41] <Asl[a] n> cross platform'
[08:41] <vleon> on an old p3
[08:41] <h3xis> Asl[a] n, linpopup
[08:42] <vleon> gnome works fine and yet somehow slow
[08:42] <vleon> there is not much rum in it
[08:42] <Jarn> How do I find out what node I need to mount for a device?
[08:42] <vleon> the question is would ram be the only problem
[08:42] <Asl[a] n> thanks :)
[08:42] <distro-tester>   http://www.myspace.com/ubuntuspace
[08:42] <vleon> if so ill upgrade the ram, if not ill swich to xfce (i dont like xfce)
[08:43] <frogzoo> Jarn: hdx for ide, sdx for sata/scsi
[08:43] <Jarn> frogzoo: ?
[08:44] <frogzoo> Jarn: you need to know the way the device names are mapped
[08:44] <MacLinuxMaster_> Hey Centaurus5 you are there
[08:44] <oFF-beAt> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[08:44] <oFF-beAt> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[08:44] <oFF-beAt>   libntfs-3g0 ntfs-3g
[08:44] <Jarn> frogzoo: How do I find that out?
[08:44] <oFF-beAt> is there any risk ???
[08:44] <oFF-beAt> by goin on?
[08:44] <frogzoo> Jarn: hdx for id#, sd# for sata/scsi
[08:45] <frogzoo> Jarn: /dev/hdx for id#, /dev/sd# for sata/scsi
[08:45] <distro-tester> pics of future ubuntu feisty http://content.zdnet.com/2346-12554_22-38830.html
[08:45] <Hobbsee> oFF-beAt: yes there is.  do you trust the packages?
[08:45] <oFF-beAt> Hobbsee, yeah i think i do..
[08:46] <Jarn> frogzoo: But how do I find out what the # is?
[08:46] <beterraba> i need install xlibs but is doesnt exists in my synaptic. could some one help me?
[08:46] <oFF-beAt> so y is tellin me the package is not authenticated?? i have key installed
[08:46] <beterraba> i need install xlibs but is doesnt exists in my synaptic. could some one help me?
[08:46] <frogzoo> oFF-beAt: mebbe it's upgrading from a differnt repo?
[08:47] <vleon> on an old p3, there is not much rum in it,  the question is would ram be the only problem?  if so ill upgrade the ram, if not ill swich to xfce (i dont like xfce)
[08:47] <elipticle> Jarn: sudo fdisk -l
[08:47] <frogzoo> Jarn: ide has 2 nodes per channel, master is hda, secondary hdb, sata just starts from a and works up
[08:48] <Jarn> elipticle: Thanks.
[08:48] <beterraba> what do u use to play mp3? is real player a good choice? i need xlibs, but is doesnt exists in my synaptic. could some one help me?
[08:48] <oFF-beAt> so.. i got ntfs-3g installed now.. how to i make my ntfs drive get mounted automatically the same way it does now.. now it mounts auto but as read only
 xmms is my choise
[08:49] <oFF-beAt> i want ntfs-3g to handle ntfs drives from now on
[08:49] <beterraba> thanks vleon i will try.
 you are most welcome
 why use some kind of real player when U got amarock or xmms??
[08:50] <beterraba> i didn't knew about any of both.
[08:50] <beterraba> :(
[08:50] <poulouf> :p
[08:50] <beterraba> it's why i am asking.
[08:50] <beterraba> :)
[08:50] <beterraba> thank u.
[08:50] <beterraba> :] 
[08:50] <poulouf> U should test them, really good to my sense
[08:50] <beterraba> ok, i will!
[08:51] <frogzoo> beterraba: amarok is nice
[08:51] <phiqtion> where do i change the gnome splash screen?
[08:51] <beterraba> amarok > xmms?
[08:51] <beterraba> frogzoo?
[08:51] <poulouf> not the same
[08:51] <poulouf> get both
[08:51] <poulouf> U will see
[08:51] <beterraba> okay
[08:52] <beterraba> :)
[08:52] <vleon>  btw isnt amarok for kde, i mean kde application make problems sometime on gnome.. or maybe amarok was build to work on all platforms?
[08:52] <frogzoo> vleon: it has its own kde libs
[08:52] <poulouf> hum...
 you see music players vary very much
 you can find yourlself installing wine and using foobar2000 even
[08:53] <poulouf> sorry but i do not remember experiencing problems with amarock, but it s installed for a while ^^
[08:53] <vleon> we are used to one interface in win but there are actually lots and lots of possible interfaces for handeling music, each is comfortable for someone else
[08:54] <vleon> ok ill use amarok for more than five minutes this time
[08:54] <beterraba> im noob in linux, i will try both
[08:54] <frogzoo> amarok install is completely pain free on edgy
[08:54] <vleon> im a n00b too :)
[08:55] <poulouf> We 're all kinf of noobs :p
[08:55] <vleon> any way my question:
[08:55] <vleon> on an old p3, there is not much rum in it,  the question is would ram be the only problem?  if so ill upgrade the ram, if not ill swich to xfce (i dont like xfce)
[08:55] <frogzoo> amarok really likes to have mysql for larger collections
[08:55] <raveneye> just google for restricted formats first page popping up should be the one of the ubuntuwiki on how to install extra codecs and so on..
[08:56] <frogzoo> vleon: xmms might be better for you
[08:56] <kristjans> ubuntu made wonders
[08:56] <kristjans> on a low contrast lcd monitor
[08:56] <kristjans> :)
[08:58] <phiqtion> where do i change the gnome splash screen?
[08:58] <vleon> frogzoo i have also a new comp
[08:58] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: You still awake ?
[08:58] <vleon> my question about xfce is for the old one
[08:59] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I am
[08:59] <psYchotic> it's 9am, and I still haven't slept =D
[08:59] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Ok. I found this, quite by accident, you may want to have a look about the screen res trouble.
[08:59] <arrenlex> /ms ubotu info xserver-xorg
[08:59] <arrenlex> Oops, sorry.
[08:59] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I'm thinking my problem might be related to refresh rates and stuff, but as my screen is an LCD, I can't find any useful information about that
[08:59] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Hang on, I'm dragging it over here.....
[09:00] <phiqtion> where do i change the gnome splash screen? ANYONE?
[09:00] <Gartral> system>preferences>splashscreen
[09:01] <preaction> phiqtion: what splash screen? the login one? the grub one?
[09:01] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Look here -- >>  http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#fix-resolution
[09:01] <oFF-beAt> /etc/fstab dun have anything abt my USB ntfs drive.. it's mounted though.. where would that b??
[09:01] <phiqtion> gnome one
[09:01] <phiqtion> system preferences splash screen is not there
[09:01] <nothlit> PhilKC, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[09:01] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I'm gonna take a look
[09:01] <nothlit> phiqtion, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[09:01] <preaction> phiqtion: gnome is a desktop environment, when does this "splash screen" occur?
[09:02] <phiqtion> preaction: bro, the gnome loading image
[09:02] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: lol, yeah, that's what I'm thinking right now, but I can't find specs for my screen
[09:02] <psYchotic> so I have no idea what the refresh rates should be
[09:02] <psYchotic> and ddcprobe doesn't return any
[09:02] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Make & Model please.
[09:03] <Risky-wow> hey i'm having this problem....when I launch vim, it hangs for some reason now
[09:03] <Risky-wow> then i press ctrl-c
[09:03] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: Compal EL80, with the WSXGA+ screen
[09:03] <Risky-wow> and it says :Error detected while processing: /usr/share/vim/vimrc:
[09:03] <Risky-wow> and line    1:
[09:03] <Risky-wow> Interrupted
[09:04] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Be back in a bit or two with more coffee and infos.
[09:04] <phiqtion> preaction: bro, the gnome loading image
[09:04] <Risky-wow> and then it gives me vim without my vimrc loaded
[09:04] <Risky-wow> which sucks
[09:04] <preaction> phiqtion: nothlit solved your problem
[09:04] <Risky-wow> any idea what i should do?
[09:04] <Risky-wow> its just started happening
[09:05] <phiqtion> thats too much work, can't i just select an image?
[09:05] <Risky-wow> vim /usr/share/vim/vimrc doesn't even have anything in it
[09:05] <vleon> heh i like amarok :)
[09:05] <psYchotic> Risky-wow: take a look at ~/.vimrc
[09:05] <Risky-wow> yeah, its only 4 lines
[09:05] <nothlit> phiqtion, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[09:05] <Risky-wow> i can run them all with : inside vim and they all work fine
[09:05] <Risky-wow> i haven't changed it in a month
[09:06] <nothlit> !gnome-splashscreen-manager | phiqtion
[09:06] <ubotwo> gnome-splashscreen-manager - manage your GNOME splash screen images - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[09:06] <Risky-wow> well 5 lines, but anyway they are all really basic and work fine
[09:06] <psYchotic> Risky-wow: try renaming .vimrc to something like .vimrc.bak, and see what happens
[09:06] <Risky-wow> it somehow get help up before it even get to reading
[09:07] <Risky-wow> yeah i did that
[09:07] <Risky-wow> if i rename both vimrc's then vim opens but doesn't show the file
[09:07] <Risky-wow> it just opens with nothing
[09:07] <psYchotic> Risky-wow: are the permissions on .vimrc right?
[09:07] <psYchotic> Risky-wow: try something like "chmod 666 .vimrc"
[09:08] <Risky-wow> all rw r r
[09:08] <psYchotic> weird
[09:08] <Risky-wow> maybe i can uninstall it and re-install it
[09:08] <phiqtion> nothlit: available in 6.10? i'm running edgy and i don't see that manager...
[09:08] <oFF-beAt> hey guys.. my usb ntfs+fat drives r mounted but not infstab file.. where would i find that??
[09:08] <Risky-wow> heh funny i thought i was in #vim
[09:09] <Risky-wow> i guess i didn't switch
[09:09] <vleon> on an old p3, there is not much rum in it,  the question is would ram be the only problem?  if so ill upgrade the ram, if not ill swich to xfce (i dont like xfce)
[09:09] <Risky-wow> i'll ask them too
[09:10] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: ddcprobe tells me "edidfail"
[09:11] <nothlit> phiqtion, available doesn't mean installed, silly :P
[09:11] <makuseru> is there a Mac OSX emulator?
[09:12] <__james> what's the difference between gnome and KDE?
[09:12] <makuseru> looks
[09:13] <peija-kas> i like gnome because imho its prettier ;)
[09:13] <peija-kas> kde feels too much windowish or something
[09:13] <nothlit> makuseru, err I'm not sure what you're asking but qemu can emulate a PPC core
[09:13] <poulouf> if you means object dock, sure there is one on ubuntu but kde desktop
[09:13] <__james> ok just the looks? is there any program that it's for gnome and not for kde?
[09:13] <peija-kas> but its a matter of taste purely
[09:13] <lresende> hey guys, trying to set path in ubuntu, already edited /etc/profile but does not work, any pointers ? help ?
[09:13] <preaction> kde usually seems to get new features more quickly
[09:13] <nothlit> __james, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome
[09:13] <peija-kas> all gnome/kde programs can be used
[09:14] <peija-kas> on both
[09:14] <nothlit> lresende, did you completely log out and in?
[09:14] <__james> ok just the looks ayt?
[09:14] <peija-kas> u just need to install core-kde or core-gnome components to support them
[09:14] <nothlit> peija-kas, =/ yeah, if you want to load both sets of libs
[09:14] <makuseru> nothlit: im trying to run some OSX programs, what would i need to do that
[09:14] <peija-kas> and they look like native apps
[09:14] <lresende> i have logout, and restarted the machine
[09:14] <peija-kas> but windowed with the current desktop
[09:14] <nothlit> makuseru, you would have to run osx :P
[09:14] <nothlit> unless theyve been ported
[09:14] <makuseru> theres not an equivalent to Wine?
[09:15] <lresende> here is how i set : export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/user/local/maven-2.0.4/bin
[09:15] <makuseru> but for Mac instead of Windows
[09:15] <preaction> __james: a lot of the applications are just more friendly in Gnome, in my experience
[09:15] <Risky-wow> bleh #vim is useless
[09:15] <phiqtion> can i use splashy on 6.10? is it recommended, any guides on this?
[09:16] <__james> ok
 I thougth mac os x was based on linux kernel? am I wrong?
[09:16] <makuseru> no clue
[09:16] <phiqtion> isn't based on unix?
[09:16] <preaction> it's a mach kernel
[09:16] <phiqtion> same thing i guess
[09:17] <lresende> nothlit: any other idea ?
[09:17] <vleon> ok you know what amarok rules!!
[09:17] <poulouf> I must be wrong so :p
[09:17] <phiqtion> can i use splashy on 6.10? is it recommended, any guides on this?
[09:17] <frogzoo> vleon: it runs ok on a p3?!
[09:17] <vleon> on an old p3, there is not much rum in it,  the question is would ram be the only problem?  if so ill upgrade the ram, if not ill swich to xfce (i dont like xfce)
[09:17] <vleon> frogzoo i have too comps
[09:17] <preaction> OSX runs a version of the Mach microkernel, probably based on the BSD version of it
[09:18] <vleon> one of them is very very strong
[09:18] <makuseru> so can you emulatoe OSX on linux?
[09:18] <frogzoo> vleon: the issue is when the database gets big, it gets slow
[09:18] <poulouf> ok, thx
[09:18] <nothlit> lresende, oh you set it wrong, heres my /etc/profile line export PATH="/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/bin"
[09:18] <vleon> blue-omega are you the same blue-omega from lionetwork?
[09:18] <vega-> is there any way to find out what options a certain kernel module was started with?
[09:19] <preaction> ma_x: what do you mean by emulate? a lot of f/oss projects can compile natively for OS X
[09:19] <Blue-Omega> vleon, indeed
[09:19] <vleon> haha its me black mage :)
[09:20] <ymo000> hi
[09:20] <nothlit> preaction, he wants to run osx apps in ubuntu
[09:20] <ymo000> how do you install gnome on an ubuntu server install ??
[09:20] <makuseru> preaction: im trying to get GarageBand to work in Linux
[09:20] <ymo000> i tried gnome, gnome-dektop to no avail
[09:20] <ymo000> this is dapper
[09:21] <frogzoo> vega-: look in /boot/System.map-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:21] <lresende> nothlit:k, let me restart
[09:21] <frogzoo> vega-: soz /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:21] <ymo000> frogzoo, any idea whats the name of the gnome-dektop package ?
[09:22] <frogzoo> ymo000: apt-cache search desktop
[09:22] <nothlit> ymo000, you mean 'gnome' or 'ubuntu-desktop' ?
[09:22] <preaction> makuseru: you're SOL without the source
[09:22] <cokeslut> hey
[09:22] <nothlit> frogzoo, apt-cache --names-only search ?
[09:22] <nwonknu-> hello
[09:22] <ymo000> nothlit, ok .. i think i am going to try ubuntu-dektop
[09:22] <frogzoo> nothlit: I just pipe to less usually
[09:22] <makuseru> preaction: thats why im trying to find a way to emulate osx
[09:22] <preaction> makuseru: you might want to look into some virtualization instead
[09:23] <phiqtion> anyone knows if i can change the default usplash for 6.10?
[09:23] <makuseru> is there a diffrnece
[09:23] <nothlit> phiqtion, you know, all of your questions can be answered by a quick google
[09:23] <preaction> makuseru: technically yes, with virtual machines you're running an OS inside another OS, with emulation you're merely translating API calls
[09:24] <preaction> makuseru: but the end result is the same: the program runs and does everything you want it to do
[09:24] <preaction> makuseru: of course, with virtualization, you have to have a copy of OS X
[09:25] <nothlit> phiqtion, should be sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[09:25] <preaction> i don't even know if OSX can be virtualized
[09:25] <vleon> hey people can someone answer me please ive asked this question numerous times and its simple enough i just whant to hear the answer from a splecialist to be sure, on an old p3, there is not much rum in it,  the question is would ram be the only problem?  if so ill upgrade the ram, if not ill swich to xfce (i dont like xfce)
 but no hardware acceleration no?
[09:26] <preaction> vleon: how much ram is not much rum?
[09:26] <nwonknu-> ok
[09:26] <cokeslut> out of interest
[09:26] <nothlit> vleon, how much ram, and whats the video card and cpu freq
 what you need is an equivalent of parallels but fox linux
[09:26] <frogzoo> anyone tried running VT on a core 2 duo with Vmware ?
[09:26] <preaction> poulouf: it all depends on what the virtual server does
[09:27] <preaction> poulouf: parallels can't virtualize an OSX, maybe VMWare
[09:27] <psYchotic> preaction: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
[09:28] <vleon> well the video card is gforce 2 and i think that is more than enough the frequensy is 800mhz if im not mistaken
[09:28] <vleon> and the rum i dont know but there is only one ram stick and i think its less then 256
[09:29] <preaction> pearpc doesn't do soundcard emulation
[09:29] <psYchotic> dammit, I'm getting pissed because I can't change my laptop's reesolution
[09:29] <vleon> lets just say that live cd install of xubuntu barely moved :)
[09:29] <frogzoo> !fixres | psYchotic
[09:29] <ubotwo> psYchotic: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:29] <psYchotic> frogzoo: I tried all the possible fixes
[09:29] <nothlit> vleon, lshw -C memory
[09:30] <preaction> vleon: i've installed gnome ubuntu on a system about that powerful, with little ill effects
[09:30] <vleon> sec
[09:30] <nothlit> vleon, yes the only issue you would have would be ram, everything else is perfectly adequate
[09:31] <gma> I've had the live CD pretty much hang for me too, but on a perfectly capable box
[09:31] <nothlit> vleon, people have run ubuntu on that much, but you may want to run xubuntu
[09:31] <gma> it ran, but very very slowly
[09:31] <gma> 256MB RAM I think
[09:31] <gma> on a P4
[09:31] <gma> there was a lot of CD churning
[09:31] <nothlit> Why does a P4 have 256mb ram?
[09:32] <Byan> has anyone ever gotten a centrino2 modem to work?
[09:32] <gma> nothlit: my grandad's dell
[09:32] <vleon> system memory = 127
[09:32] <peija-kas> figures
[09:32] <vleon> is that it?
[09:32] <gma> nothlit: cheap, but with "impressive" numbers
[09:32] <peija-kas> yes very impressive :p
[09:32] <gma> peija-kas: hey, the GHz were off the chart! ;)
[09:32] <Byan> nothlit: P4's have clocks as low as 1.3ghz
[09:32] <frogzoo> Byan: modem works on my lappie - depends on chipset
[09:33] <Byan> nothlit: back, then 256 was addiquite
[09:33] <Byan> frogzoo: uhm.. how did you get it to work...
[09:33] <nothlit> vleon, nm just run 'top' and give us the memory number
[09:33] <gma> it's always been a farce in this dell, it's about 2.4 GHz
[09:33] <nothlit> vleon, but if you use swap, you can run ubuntu fine i think
[09:33] <gma> fuckers
[09:33] <nothlit> vleon, slowly, but fine
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | gma
[09:34] <ubotwo> gma: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:34] <tututututu> wtf is this channel about ?
[09:34] <Byan> 256 will be more then enough
[09:34] <frogzoo> Byan: sl-modem-daemon works my modem chip
[09:34] <nothlit> !offtopic | tututututu
[09:34] <ubotwo> tututututu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
 i have a 256 swap, should i enlarge it?
[09:34] <Byan> frogzoo: ok
[09:34] <tututututu> what is ubuntu ?
[09:34] <frogzoo> !ubuntu
[09:34] <ubotwo> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:34] <nothlit> vleon, i would enlarge it to at least 512
[09:35] <nothlit> vleon, depends on how you use your computer, of course, how much you will need
 typicaly it 15x your ram size...
[09:35] <Byan> ubuntu runs on my XBOX
[09:35] <Byan> and it has 32mb of ram
[09:35] <Byan> so....
 sorry, 1.5
[09:35] <frogzoo> vleon: maxing out memory will delay the need to upgrade
[09:36] <poulouf> does anyone knows how to activate dot on numeric pad?
[09:36] <Byan> poulouf: IDK why they say that.. it makes no sense.. the lower amount of ram you have.. the more swap you need
[09:36] <peija-kas> and if you like to run virtual machines etc u need more..i have 1280 mb mem so i can easily run one virtual machine, and still wont need much swap
[09:36] <Byan> there is no way I need 3 gigs of swap for my 2 gig system..
[09:36] <Byan> no way ever
[09:36] <nothlit> !numlock | poulouf
[09:36] <ubotwo> poulouf: To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[09:36] <gma> Byan: you might, depends on what you run
[09:36] <peija-kas> i have 1.5 GB swap for 1280 mb mem
[09:36] <vleon> yeah but its only a 2g drive
[09:36] <vleon> anyway thanks since ram is the only problem i know how to handle it :)
[09:37] <poulouf> no, not numlock please...
[09:37] <frogzoo> Byan: you need at about = ram, for suspend to ram
[09:37] <vleon> *20g drive
[09:37] <Byan> gma: yeah... I would have to TRY to need it
[09:37] <peija-kas> usually the amount of memroy speeds up things because linux caches stuff in memory
[09:37] <nothlit> =/ Will ubuntu fit on 2 gigs? oh lol
[09:37] <gma> poulouf: are you using a laptop?
[09:37] <peija-kas> so its accessible faster
[09:37] <Byan> frogzoo: O_o huh?
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> nothlit: Not a default install, but it can be done.
[09:37] <poulouf> I can actullay use numlock, only dot do not
[09:37] <peija-kas> 2 gb is not enough for complete install?
[09:37] <peija-kas> default i mean
[09:37] <frogzoo> Byan: sorry, hibernate, not suspend to ram
[09:37] <peija-kas> ive tried :p
[09:37] <Byan> frogzoo: my desktop has no swap...
[09:37] <Byan> frogzoo: hibernate uses swap?
[09:37] <gma> nothlit: yes, according to polishlinux.org 's comparison page
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> Default install needs 3 gig.  You could install minimal and go from there if you need it on two.
[09:37] <gma> nothlit: you need 1GB apparently
[09:38] <frogzoo> Byan: then you can't hibernate, unless you've set a different hibernate partition
[09:38] <nothlit> gma, rofl
[09:38] <peija-kas> you can add a swap partition later too via fstab
[09:38] <peija-kas> make one first in someplace with gnome partition editor etc
[09:40] <nothlit> vleon, you may want to use the alternate disc to install ubuntu
[09:40] <Byan> frogzoo: you said you have a centrino laptop? don't they all have intel modems.. that package seems to be for some made from a company called smart link
[09:40] <nothlit> vleon, but be warned that the alternate disc doesn't have a nondestructive partition editor
[09:41] <frogzoo> Byan: yes, it's an intel modem
[09:41] <khaije1> hi all
[09:42] <khaije1> general question: can anyone recommend an online data backup service?
[09:42] <mwe> nothlit: it doesn't? doesn't it use parted?
[09:42] <frogzoo> Byan: from lspci, :Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
[09:43] <frogzoo> khaije1: google mail
[09:43] <nothlit> mwe, it does? anyways parted has fewer features than gparted
[09:43] <nothlit> khaije1, mabbe amazon? dunno
[09:43] <mwe> nothlit: gparted is just a front end to parted, isn't it?
[09:44] <mwe> nothlit: I thought so at least
[09:44] <khaije1> frogzoo: something a little more official would be better
[09:44] <nothlit> mwe, no, gparted has extra features/functions that parted qtparted doesn't have
[09:44] <khaije1> nothlit: do they offer one?
[09:44] <nothlit> khaije1, they offer space
[09:44] <nothlit> khaije1, you can do what you want with it
[09:45] <nothlit> khaije1, but there are places that offer backup using amazon storage
[09:45] <mwe> nothlit: according to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ it uses gnu libparted
[09:45] <mwe> nothlit: as parted does
[09:45] <nothlit> mwe, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[09:45] <nothlit> mwe, see [4]  Native through libparted
[09:46] <Byan> frogzoo: seems I have a ICH6..
[09:46] <nothlit> mwe, and compare that feature list to qtparted http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/features.en.html which uses parted as well
[09:46] <Byan> which is not supported by that driver
[09:46] <nothlit> mwe, gparted has more
[09:46] <Byan> =(
[09:46] <mwe> nothlit: yeah. I was mistaken I guess, then
[09:47] <nothlit> Thats why gparted is the awesomest app ever ;)
[09:47] <khaije1> nothlit: thx, i'll check that out, let me know if anything else comes t omind
[09:48] <mwe> nothlit: anyway I was convinced the alternate CD could resize ntfs safely with ntfsprogs
[09:48] <Byan> partition magic is still the way to go for that
[09:48] <Byan> they should make a linux friendly version of that
[09:49] <Byan> even if you have to pay for it
[09:49] <x-r00t-x> is there any way to mount 2 drive on one folder?
[09:49] <frogzoo> x-r00t-x: raid the drives together
[09:49] <frogzoo> x-r00t-x: or LVM overlay
[09:50] <nothlit> khaije1, "Secure Redundant Encryped Storage" http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=16427261 http://jungledisk.com http://belgo.org/backup_and_restore_to_amazo.html
[09:50] <x-r00t-x> frogzoo, guide me :P
[09:50] <mwe> nothlit: are you sure the alternate CD cannot safely resize ntfs partitions?
[09:51] <nothlit> khaije1, List of Amazon S3 backup tools http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007641.html
[09:51] <frogzoo> x-r00t-x: probably overkill for your needs
[09:51] <x-r00t-x> frogzoo, tnx. i will figure it out :P
[09:51] <nothlit> mwe, if the alternate cd has ntfsresize, then it can
[09:51] <nothlit> mwe, but ext3 resizing it wont have i think
[09:52] <mwe> nothlit: really? maybe so
[09:52] <oxigen> anyone knows if i can burn cd iso file (ubuntu distribution iso file) on DVD (my cdr is broken). will this work?
[09:52] <nothlit> oxigen, yes, but you can also burn the ubuntu dvd .iso image so you don't waste space
[09:53] <makuseru> is there a Mac OSX emulator?
[09:53] <preaction> oxigen: your dvd-r can burn cdrs
[09:53] <preaction> makuseru: you asked this already, PearPC will work, but it won't do soundcards (says the website)
[09:53] <oxigen> thanks guys! nothlit & preaction
[09:54] <makuseru> well you never said that before
[09:54] <oxigen> preaction: but i'm also out of cdrs i have only empty dvds, is this still ok?
[09:55] <oxigen> nothlit: dvd .iso image take too long to download here :(
[09:55] <preaction> oxigen: i've never tried it
[09:55] <oxigen> preaction: ok , thank you
[09:56] <capunk> #surabaya
[09:58] <fluxd> hi just wondering does gnome have tab feature?
[09:58] <zarattustra> ke rollo aki?
[09:58] <zarattustra> tab?
[09:58] <zarattustra> what do yo mean with tab?
[09:58] <fluxd> tabs
[09:58] <fluxd> like firefox
[09:58] <preaction> gnome is a desktop environment, not a web browser
[09:58] <fluxd> I know but I aw a screenshot with tbs
[09:58] <zarattustra> firefox is included in ubuntu
[09:58] <preaction> an application in gnome can have tabs
[09:59] <fluxd> oh wait stupid me
[09:59] <preaction> the Gtk library has a way to create tabs
[09:59] <fluxd> I meant terminal lol
[09:59] <preaction> yes
[09:59] <Ignite_> The weirdest thing seems to have happened. When I send a file to the trash, it goes to the trash, it's there, I can see it when I open the trash can, but the trash can reports being empty, does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:59] <preaction> File > New Tab
[09:59] <preaction> or Ctrl+T
[09:59] <preaction> er.. Shift+Ctrl+T
[09:59] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I think I have it....
[09:59] <zarattustra> maybe youve deleted those files as another user
[09:59] <zarattustra> try to run as root
[09:59] <fluxd> oh thats why ctrl t asnt working
[10:00] <Ignite_> zarattustra, that's not it.
[10:00] <preaction> fluxd: the normal Ctrl+* usually send signals, so you have to use shift+ctrl
[10:00] <gma> Ignite_: have a look for a .Trash directory and see if there's anything in it (using a terminal)
[10:00] <Ignite_> gma, there isn't, I cleared it.
[10:00] <gma> didi you check with the terminal, or with the file browser?
[10:00] <Ignite_> Both
[10:00] <zarattustra> so its another bug
[10:01] <zarattustra> theres a lot of bug on the 6.10
[10:01] <zarattustra> *bugs
[10:01] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Dang. I'd like to see that xorg.conf again, I think I found the answer.
[10:01] <gma> was the file originally on the same filesystem as your .Trash dir?
[10:01] <Ignite_> Yes
[10:01] <gma> Ignite_: beats me then
[10:01] <Ignite_> :(
[10:01] <zarattustra> someone has a laptop?
[10:02] <fluxd> Also I have been adding programs like gaim in the session(startup) part to start programs at startup but everytime they dont run and the location seems to be deleted anyone know why?
[10:02] <zarattustra> battery support sucks
[10:02] <Ignite_> The only thing I can think of is it being a permission problem with my ~/.Trash directory... could some tell me the output of "ls -l ~/ | grep ".Trash"" from the terminal on their system please? :)
[10:03] <Ignite_> Err
[10:03] <Ignite_> "ls -la ~/ | grep ".Trash"" even...
[10:04] <Ignite_> :(
[10:04] <fluxd> what does that do?
[10:04] <Ignite_> It just shows information about the .Trash directory in the users home directory.
[10:05] <Ignite_> On my system
[10:05] <Ignite_> oliver@beast:~/Desktop$ ls -la ~/ | grep ".Trash"
[10:05] <Ignite_> drwxr-xr-x  2 oliver oliver      4096 2007-01-20 08:57 .Trash
[10:05] <Ignite_> :)
[10:06] <fluxd> drwx------
[10:06] <Ignite_> Thanks :D
[10:06] <nothlit> Ignite_, I don't have a .Trash directory, I always skip that
[10:07] <Ignite_> I like to be careful lol.
[10:08] <fluxd> is there any way other than in the session option to start programs at login?
[10:08] <Jarn2> When I restart, my computer restarts fine. However, if I turn it off, it stops doing anything when the loading screen bar gets empty, when it would normally shut off, and I have to power it down manually.
[10:08] <Ignite_> Gah, not a permission problem...
[10:08] <gma> Jarn2: sounds like it's not working properly with ACPI
[10:08] <gma> Jarn2: how old is the motherboard?
[10:09] <Jarn2> gma: 9 months or so.
[10:09] <gma> Jarn2: it'll be supported then, for sure (mine is so old it isn't)
[10:09] <Jarn2> gma: I have some ACPI options turned off at boot because they were giving me problems when I was first installing Kubuntu. Should I try disabling them?
[10:10] <gma> Jarn2: enabling them? yeah, shouldn't hurt to try it
[10:10] <kraut> moin
[10:10] <gma> Jarn2: the shut down requires acpi to be enabled
[10:11] <Jarn2> gma: Currently I have set "noapic nolapic acpi=off". Should I remove all of those?
[10:12] <gma> Jarn2: I'm not sure what they do, I've never had to disable it
[10:12] <lskd-255> (hmmm, looks real quiet in here, maybe they are hunting wabbits/)
[10:12] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: You still awake ?
[10:13] <Byan> where is all the wine files located?
[10:13] <YoG> any one knows if rhythmbox can files from a samba share?
[10:13] <Byan> the fake file system, ect.
[10:13] <Jarn2> ~/.wine
[10:13] <Byan> thanks
[10:13] <Daverocks> Byan: ~/.wine , the fake C drive is at ~/.wine/drive_c/
[10:18] <MonkeyINAbaG> HI
[10:21] <TooR4u> hi .. i have downloaded latest version of firefox ...;but i dont know how to install it ...;[unable to find the "configure" file ...] 
[10:21] <TooR4u> how to install?
[10:21] <Choupette> hum...
[10:21] <Flannel> !firefox | TooR4u
[10:21] <ubotwo> TooR4u: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:22] <Choupette> try apt-get install firefox instead
[10:22] <TooR4u> ok
[10:22] <Jarn2> gma: Tooking out acpi=off worked, thanks.
[10:23] <Tree> I'm stalking stork
[10:23] <elefant_Needs_he> Hey can anyone tell me how to find out what my "root password" is?
[10:23] <Ignite_> TooR4u, System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, you can use that to install and remove software
[10:23] <Flannel> elefant_Needs_he: ubuntu doesn't use the root account, we use sudo instead
[10:23] <Flannel> !sudo | elefant_Needs_he
[10:23] <ubotwo> elefant_Needs_he: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:23] <Daverocks> elefant_Needs_he: the root account is locked by default on ubuntu
[10:23] <ubuntu_> hiya
[10:23] <Choupette> hum my mono web serveur installation is in start state since 5 minutes an ddo nothing... should i worry?
[10:23] <elefant_Needs_he> mmk thx
[10:24] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  y not apache2?
[10:24] <elefant_Needs_he> then when im downloading java..which of the 4 do i choose?
[10:24] <Choupette> yes it is
[10:24] <Flannel> !java | elefant_Needs_he, the one in the repository
[10:24] <ubotwo> elefant_Needs_he, the one in the repository: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:24] <ubuntu_> Choupette: try netstat -a | grep http
[10:24] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  see anything?
[10:25] <Choupette> I ve made install using synaptic but it seems it s freeze
[10:25] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  try apt-get
[10:25] <Choupette> wat the
[10:25] <Choupette> !!!
[10:26] <Choupette> ok that wat i ll do
[10:26] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  u wana run a web server right?
[10:26] <Choupette> yes, but with mono framework
[10:26] <Choupette> apsx
[10:26] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  open terminal
[10:26] <Choupette> "asp" sorry
[10:27] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  type sudo apt-get install package-name
[10:27] <Choupette> yes but
[10:27] <ubuntu_> package-name is what u wana install ok
[10:27] <Choupette> I do not know wat is package ^^
[10:27] <Ignite_> Synaptic is much easier to use, and gets the same thing done.
[10:27] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  i use apache2 for web server
[10:27] <Choupette> i was using synaptic cause apt-cache was not really simple
[10:27] <sc4ttrbrain> !beryl
[10:27] <ubotwo> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:27] <Choupette> :p
[10:28] <phiqtion> will installing KDE break my system in any way?
[10:28] <phiqtion> im on 6.10
[10:28] <Choupette> beryl rocks!
[10:28] <elefant_Needs_he> hmm....qhere are the "respitories"..i just got ubuntu   today
[10:28] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  apt-cache search string
[10:28] <Flannel> phiqtion: nope.  You probably want kubuntu-desktop though
[10:28] <Choupette> cya! brb
[10:28] <Ignite_> PhilKC, install the kubuntu-desktop package, you won't have any problems.
[10:28] <Ignite_> :)
[10:28] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  string is what u wana search for
[10:28] <Flannel> !repositories | elefant_Needs_he
[10:28] <ubotwo> elefant_Needs_he: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:28] <Ignite_> Erm
[10:28] <phiqtion> Flannel: my point exactly, will it break anything?
[10:28] <Ignite_> phiqtion, *
[10:28] <Flannel> phiqtion: no, you'll be able to choose between the two of them when you login (sessions menu, at GDM/KDM)
[10:29] <elefant_Needs_he> !easysource
[10:29] <ubotwo> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:29] <YoG> any one knows if rhythmbox can files from a samba share?
[10:29] <Choupette> sure i know that but synaptic was easier way to do it
[10:29] <Choupette> thx anyway bye
[10:29] <ubuntu_> Choupette:  cya
[10:30] <amee2k> hi everyone
[10:31] <ubuntu_> Flannel:  hi
[10:31] <gnoodles> Hi everyone... Anyone know how to add a custome keyboard shortcut to Gnome? I would like to be able to run a command, 'xrandr -o left' with a keyboard short cut. There's the Shortcuts preference panel, but it doesn't allow you to add commands, only edit the existing ones.
[10:31] <ubuntu_> Flannel:  does old ubuntu 5 support ntfs-3g
[10:31] <cidx> hey i have a problem i can not get sound in linux ubuntu. I have creative sound card
[10:31] <ubuntu_> Flannel:  cause i dont see it in synaptic
[10:31] <amee2k> how can i configure nautilus to ignore file extensions to prevent this http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9186/conf2ax.png ?
[10:31] <Ignite_> !ntfs > ubuntu_
[10:32] <ubuntu_> Ignite_: ty
[10:32] <ubuntu_> !ntfs-3g
[10:32] <ubotwo> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:32] <ubuntu_> Ignite_:  i know the link
[10:32] <ubuntu_> Ignite_:  will it work on old ubuntu?
[10:33] <amee2k> any hints? i can't find anything about it in the nautilus manual
[10:33] <Ignite_> ubuntu_, http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[10:33] <ubuntu_> Ignite_:  ah, tyvm
[10:33] <esc_ape> hi
[10:34] <Spee_Der> hi esc
[10:37] <phiqtion> anyone can shine some light on usplash customization?
[10:38] <ubuntu_> quit
[10:38] <MaTaKs> what is usplash?
[10:39] <Spee_Der> !usplash
[10:39] <ubotwo> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:40] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: You still awake ?
[10:40] <n00bius> can i install .deb files from my desktop?
[10:40] <linux_user400354> when i do sudo reboot in edgy, my system freezes at the usplash and never shuts down completely or restarts. does anyone else have this problem or know anything about it?
[10:41] <gnoodles> ANyone know how to add custom keyboard shortcuts to Gnome? New things, not customizing the existing ones?
[10:41] <nomego> gnoodles: like what?
[10:42] <nomego> executing an application?
[10:42] <gnoodles> I want to add the command "xrandr -o left" to pivot my monitor. On Windows, I use the shortcut ctrl-shift-9, but anything would work
[10:43] <nomego> gnoodles: run gconf-editor and navigate to /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands
[10:43] <n00bius> i cannot 2xclick it on my desktop, i get an error, i thought perhaps there was a better place, btw totally new to this
[10:43] <nomego> gnoodles: there you enter the command
[10:43] <cidx> Hey i have a creative sound card and i kan not get sound in linux. Help me ;)
[10:43] <linux_user400354> I can not get surround sound working the way I want it to. I do not want full surround. I have two normal sets of speakers. I just want to them to be at the same volume and when I change the volume from the panel, it does not change the volume of both of them instead of having to go into preferences everytime I want to mute both of them or change the volume. The master volume control (same one that is changed from the gnome panel)
[10:43] <linux_user400354> only changes the volume for one of the sets of speakers.
[10:44] <nomego> gnoodles: then you add a keybinding on /apps/metacity/global_keybindings for that command
[10:44] <n00bius> actually that problemo is for the .run files
[10:44] <n00bius> im trying to install wine and i get an error
[10:44] <gnoodles> Thanks nomego. THat looks like exactly what I needed.
[10:45] <n00bius> "dependency not satisfiable"
[10:45] <nomego> gnoodles: No problem. There's no obvious configuration front-end for it, AFAIK.
[10:47] <KingLear> hello all
[10:47] <savvas> hello, can someone tell me how to open/extract/view a .uif cd image?
[10:48] <KingLear> while I am downloading updates, how can I install the already downloaded software so that both the installation of new software as well as downloading of updates can go on simultaneously?
[10:48] <KingLear> while I am downloading updates, how can I install the already downloaded software so that both the installation of new software as well as downloading of updates can go on simultaneously? any one ?
[10:49] <nomego> KingLear: Be patient for an answer.
[10:49] <savvas> KingLear: do you mean: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:50] <KingLear> okay nomego
[10:50] <KingLear> savvas:  I am already doing an sudo apte-get update
[10:51] <savvas> KingLear: well ok, but this will update and prompt you to install all the new updates
[10:51] <KingLear> savvas:  since there are downloaded software , I want them to install so that the system gets updated alongside the download process
[10:51] <marlun> If I've got a server running Ubuntu server, in that server a NTFS partition with music on it, can I reach that music somehow from my laptop which is running Ubuntu Desktop?
[10:52] <KingLear> savvas:  the command you told me ,
[10:52] <KingLear> what does it do ?
[10:52] <Daverocks> marlun: if the NTFS partition is mounted on the ubuntu server, then yes
[10:52] <KingLear> I mean sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:52] <marlun> Daverocks, how do I access it?
[10:52] <savvas> KingLear: it updates the software list (update), and then downloads and installs all the new software (upgrade)
[10:53] <Daverocks> marlun: various ways. you could share it over NFS or samba, or access it through ssh
[10:54] <KingLear> savvas:  does it fufills MY purpose?
[10:54] <KingLear> I mean downloading and installing at the same Time, than having to install after downloading the whole lIST?
[10:55] <savvas> KingLear: that's what upgrade does
[10:55] <gnoodles> Thanks again, nomego. Got the keybindings configured, and they work perfectly.
[10:56] <savvas> KingLear: if you want to install only several software packages, you do: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3
[10:57] <KingLear> savvas:  I am doing a complete Update/upgrade so I think there must be a way to do this
[10:57] <Laughtear> need help
[10:57] <marlun> why is Totem Movie Player opened by default when opening music files, instead of Rythmbox Music Player?
[10:57] <savvas> KingLear: why don't you try the command and see if it helps you
[10:58] <KingLear> as far as I remember there was this OPtion in Gentoo, SO THAT one could easily install the downloaded software as well as update the packed
[10:58] <EmxBA> which audio player do you use? banshee? xmms? amarok? vlc? totem?
[10:58] <KingLear> savvas:  I did
[10:58] <mwe> EmxBA: I use bmp
[10:58] <KingLear> it says :  You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:58] <KingLear> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:59] <savvas> KingLear: try: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:59] <savvas> then try the command again
[10:59] <sp0ro> what would I need to do in order to get a 1200x1024 resolution on my screen? I have an ATI card and downloaded and installed the ATI driver binaries, but apparently they don't support the resolution either.
[11:00] <savvas> KingLear: you mean you want to speficically check for updates for only one package/software?
[11:00] <Chousuke> sp0ro: That's a weird resolution
[11:00] <Laughtear> Anybody can help me about installing ati graphic software onto this ubuntu
[11:00] <Laughtear> ?
[11:00] <Laughtear> please?
[11:00] <sp0ro> How is that an odd resolution.
[11:00] <savvas> !ati | Laughtear
[11:00] <ubotwo> Laughtear: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <KingLear> Okay savvas
[11:00] <mwe> !fixres | sp0ro
[11:00] <ubotwo> sp0ro: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:00] <sp0ro> Sorry I meant 1280x1024
[11:00] <Laughtear> no, i need some body to help
[11:00] <Chousuke> sp0ro: right.
[11:00] <Laughtear> !ati
[11:00] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:01] <sp0ro> Thank you, I will check that out.
[11:01] <Laughtear> i found the driver, downloaded it
[11:01] <savvas> Laughtear: it's better to read that website, it contains every step of the way :)
[11:01] <Laughtear> but the terminal says: can't open it
[11:01] <KingLear> no savvas , I was just looking for a way to install the already downloaded 58 or so packages while the next packages were being downloaded,
[11:02] <savvas> KingLear: simoultaneous update and upgrade? i think that's not allowed by apt
[11:02] <KingLear> that is the sorry conclusion I have reached now.
[11:02] <KingLear> the same error , savvas
[11:02] <KingLear> :(
[11:03] <foglight> update just gets the package list
[11:03] <foglight> dist-upgrade downloads and installs them
[11:03] <sp0ro> I'm guessing for the ATI article, I should treat the 6.10 distro as 6.06?
[11:03] <KingLear> foglight: will the command be sudo apt-get dist-upgarde?
[11:04] <foglight> yes, if you spell it that is
[11:04] <Laughtear> please, I'm a new user, and don't have enough knowledge the use the commands of the terminal yet
[11:04] <savvas> foglight: he wants simoultaneous update and upgrade, not update then upgrade
[11:04] <mwe> sp0ro: AFAIK the directions should work for both
[11:04] <foglight> there is a graphical upgrade tool also
[11:05] <oFF-beAt> why sin't my splash screen not showing now?? i get all text now
[11:05] <sp0ro> Ok thank you.
[11:06] <sc4ttrbrain> Trevinho, thank you man :D ! you're doing a great job on beryl-svn :D
[11:06] <mwe> oFF-beAt: what happened before it disappeared?
[11:06] <oFF-beAt> mwe, i installed a new splash
[11:07] <oFF-beAt> fingerprint splash from gnome-look
[11:07] <mwe> oFF-beAt: maybe you did it wrong
[11:07] <oFF-beAt> mwe, it didn';t give me any errors in the terminal window
[11:07] <KingLear> Thanks foglight
[11:07] <KingLear> and thanks to you too, savvas
[11:07] <oFF-beAt> n i followed the instructions in the file exectly as it said
[11:08] <KingLear> You people have been quite a help
[11:08] <mwe> oFF-beAt: hmm
[11:08] <Cwings> hey
[11:08] <Iphigenia> Hi!! Any Bluefish users here?
[11:08] <Cwings> hi
[11:08] <savvas> n/p:)
[11:08] <Cwings> can some body help me
[11:08] <Cwings> plx
[11:08] <Cwings> i have some troubles with ubuntu
[11:08] <Cwings> .S
[11:09] <Cwings> :S
[11:09] <mwe> !ask | Cwings
[11:09] <ubotwo> Cwings: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:09] <Kishore> Hi all
[11:09] <Kishore> i had installed java
[11:09] <Kishore> but unable to run swing files
[11:09] <Cwings> it cant recognize my video card 256 nvidia msi
[11:09] <Cwings> im using glx
[11:09] <Cwings> but
[11:10] <Cwings> last time
[11:10] <oFF-beAt> mwe, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=50468   i was installin this
[11:10] <Kishore> some one help me out..
[11:10] <Cwings> i used upgrade
[11:10] <mwe> !enter | Cwings
[11:10] <ubotwo> Cwings: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:10] <Cwings> since that action
[11:10] <oFF-beAt> that page comes with howto as well
[11:10] <sp0ro> Ok, I followed the directions on that website and installed the ATI drivers. Everything went smooth, but 1024x768 is still the maximum resolution I can use.
[11:10] <Cwings> i cant enter to ubunto eiter to console mode
[11:10] <Kishore> why swing files not working !
[11:11] <Cwings> damit i was tryng to install a no-ip client
[11:11] <Cwings> lol
[11:11] <mwe> Kishore: is java properly installed and are you using the files correctly?
[11:11] <Cwings> and i got some trooubles
[11:11] <Cwings> whit glx
[11:11] <Cwings> :S
[11:11] <AlexC_> !enter | Cwings
[11:11] <ubotwo> Cwings: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:11] <lilBeat> hey guys!
[11:11] <Alakazamz0r> Cwings, what do you mean you cant enter console mode?
[11:11] <Marupa> How do I get Ubuntu to use jre6 instead of gcj?
[11:12] <Cwings> !enter
[11:12] <ubotwo> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:12] <Kishore> mwe, simple java progs are running properly
[11:12] <lilBeat> will beryl work on sis m760gx?
[11:12] <AlexC_> lilBeat: try it and see,
[11:12] <AlexC_> lilBeat: #beryl
[11:12] <mwe> Marupa: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:12] <Marupa> thank you
[11:12] <mwe> Marupa: provided it's installed with APT
[11:12] <Iphigenia> Kishore: Sun Java?
[11:13] <oFF-beAt> mwe, so how do i fix splash screen problem?
[11:13] <Alakazamz0r> lilBeat, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=%22sis+m760gx%22+beryl
[11:13] <Kishore> Iphigenia, Ya..i think
[11:13] <Alakazamz0r> anyone else need help?
[11:13] <Cwings> is there an other ubuntu channel in spanish?
[11:13] <mwe> oFF-beAt: I don't know the file you tried. I'd revert if possible
[11:13] <tuanhoa> hello
[11:13] <lilBeat> AlexC_: it's laptop and wouldn't like to burn something :( i am being precautious
[11:14] <tuanhoa> 222222222222
[11:14] <tuanhoa> hiiiiiiiiii
[11:14] <AlexC_> lilBeat: I highly doubtBeryl will blow your laptop up. If it doesn't work it wont work, if it does, then great
[11:14] <Alakazamz0r> Cwings, i dont see one, but i know a little spanish
[11:14] <Alakazamz0r> if you know a little english
[11:14] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[11:14] <lilBeat> AlexC_: thanks, that's what i anted to hear :)
[11:14] <apecat> hi. I'm trying to follow the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9454.html. However, when i'm trying to modprobe ndiswrapper i get the following output: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument. Am i missing something here?
[11:14] <AlexC_> lilBeat: =)
[11:15] <frogzoo> open office is stuck fullscreen & the hotkey to unfullscreen it won't work - any clues?
[11:15] <marlun> Can you get totem to play quicktime movies? =)
[11:15] <Alakazamz0r> AlexC_, it'll run like crap... worst case senario.
[11:15] <Alakazamz0r> marlun, with some plugins yes
[11:15] <Cwings> i know how to speak in english but i cant read answers of my question if i cant get in to ubuntu cuz the nvidia video card what should i do
[11:15] <marlun> Because Totem seems to be integrated with firefox and it pretty much can't play anything.
[11:16] <mwe> Cwings: maybe you can boot a previous kernel from the boot menu
[11:16] <fotoflo3> what advantages does ubuntu have over SUSE?
[11:16] <Alakazamz0r> Cwings, join this channel #alakazamz0r
[11:16] <Alakazamz0r> anyone else that needs help feel free to join
[11:16] <AlexC_> fotoflo3: why not try for your self? It's easier to for you to try it and see what advantages it offers than for us to say
[11:16] <mwe> Cwings: Or get to recovery mode
[11:16] <Alakazamz0r> i am a Unix sysadmin, im pretty good.
[11:16] <AlexC_> fotoflo3: an advantage to me, could be a disadvantage for you
[11:16] <Cwings> and that channel is ?
[11:17] <Alakazamz0r> i just made it.
[11:17] <Alakazamz0r> take it or leave it.
[11:17] <Cwings> mmm
[11:17] <Cwings> but
[11:17] <AlexC_> Cwings: I feel sorry for your enter key, I really do :P
[11:17] <Cwings> tere is no body there
[11:17] <Alakazamz0r> Cwings, you dont have your video card working?
[11:17] <Alakazamz0r> you need NVIDIA help?
[11:18] <Cwings> yes!
[11:18] <Alakazamz0r> ok :)
[11:18] <Iphigenia> Well I am after a quick hand with the Bluefish HTML editor, I guess a little away from the purpose of this room but I am running it on Xubuntu :-)
[11:18] <AlexC_> Iphigenia: have you tried gPHPEdit? I use to use Bluefish all the time, but I've now fallen in love with gPHPEdit
[11:18] <Cwings> i need to know how to configure the new upgrade of ubuntu whit glx how to upgrade glx
[11:19] <Iphigenia> AlexC- actually I have never heard of it
[11:19] <savvas> Alakazamz0r: you might be a sys admin, but it doesn't write on your forehead that your intentions are good or bad. so please help him in this channel if you want to help him
[11:19] <Alakazamz0r> Cwings, it is in english, can you understand?
[11:19] <AlexC_> Iphigenia: it's also faster than Bluefish. Bluefish for me use to lag when I typed, then the highlight would suddenly dissapear. But gPHPEdit is lovely, really really good - try it :P
[11:19] <Alakazamz0r> okay savvas sorry... its hard for him to understand as it is... i didnt mean any wrong.
[11:20] <Alakazamz0r> brb
[11:20] <Iphigenia> Alexc_: Just haveing a look online
[11:20] <sp0ro> I'm following this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto but the command "sudo aticonfig --resolution=Screen0,1600x1200,1280x1024,1024x768" is not allowing me to set the resolution with the resolution command. Instead it gives me a "Error: Section # expected". What should I do?
[11:20] <AlexC_> Iphigenia: apt-get install gphpedit ;)
[11:21] <Cwings> ahhhh!! damit thanks for ur help but i cant talk cuz you dont take me on a seriusly way
[11:21] <Alakazamz0r> ok my VPN was jacking with my DNS
[11:21] <Alakazamz0r> Cwings, are you there still?
[11:21] <Alakazamz0r> cwin.. well
[11:21] <Alakazamz0r> heh
[11:21] <Alakazamz0r> Anyone else need help?
[11:21] <Iphigenia> Alexc_: OK just a sec & I will look
[11:21] <sp0ro> I could use some help.
[11:22] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, whats the problem
[11:22] <tibbe> hmm, there's a tool to recover a hoosed partition table, anyone knows what it's called?
[11:22] <Alakazamz0r> tibbe, hosed as in how hosed.
[11:22] <sp0ro> I'm following this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto but the command "sudo aticonfig --resolution=Screen0,1600x1200,1280x1024,1024x768" is not allowing me to set the resolution with the resolution command. Instead it gives me a "Error: Section # expected".
[11:22] <fotoflo3> AlexC: im runing ubuntu, thinking of switching to SUSE, ubuntu has been a terrible pain in the ... when setting up servers - the SUSE setup utility sounds really good
[11:23] <AlexC_> fotoflo3: then use Suse,
[11:23] <tibbe> Alakazamz0r: the partition information is lost
[11:23] <AlexC_> fotoflo3: have you seen the guide on setting up LAMP?
[11:23] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, one sec, reading that page... what kind of hardware do you have.
[11:23] <tibbe> Alakazamz0r: but nothing has been overwritten,
[11:23] <vcolombo> Hey all, I'm trying to change my default Xsession type (from gnome to xfce) remotely via the command line. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly what I need to edit. Anyone know how I can accomplish this?
[11:23] <Alakazamz0r> tibbe, what is the filesystem?
[11:23] <khaije1> whats the command to re-detect hardware as ubuntu does on startup?
[11:24] <tibbe> Alakazamz0r: NTFS, ext2 and swap
[11:24] <sp0ro> ATI 9600xt, but this is painful in 1024x1068 resolution. :(
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> fotoflo3: I did a lamp server - what was the problem?
[11:24] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, is your refresh rate wrong or what.
[11:24] <fotoflo3> Alex: whats LAMP?
[11:24] <Iphigenia> Hmmmm... funny how 'sodu' won't work: I need some sleep i think ....
[11:24] <sp0ro> No.
[11:24] <Alakazamz0r> It wont do the resolution you want?
[11:24] <AlexC_> fotoflo3: Linux Apache MySQL & PHP/Perl
[11:24] <sp0ro> Oh, do you mean in the terminal command? That I don't know.
[11:24] <AlexC_> fotoflo3: let me get a link, hold on
[11:24] <sp0ro> I don't even know where to put that to be honest.
[11:24] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, what are you trying to achieve?
[11:25] <sp0ro> I'm trying to get atleast a 1280x1024 resolution
[11:25] <tibbe> i.e. MBR is hosed
[11:25] <Grognard> Hi
[11:25] <sp0ro> I have already updated the ATI drivers also and that part went pretty smoothly, but the resolution part is being a pain.
[11:25] <Alakazamz0r> ok sp0ro have you installed the drivers?
[11:25] <Alakazamz0r> what kind of video card do you have sp0ro
[11:25] <sp0ro> radeon 9600xt
[11:25] <Alakazamz0r> ATI 9600xt, sorry
[11:26] <AlexC_> fotoflo3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP there you go
[11:26] <fotoflo3> k
[11:26] <fotoflo3> thanks
[11:26] <Zin> Hi!
[11:26] <fotoflo3> i also need samba, sftp, and VNC
[11:26] <Ayabara> what command can I use to check my gateway adress?
[11:26] <Zin> I m new
[11:26] <Grognard> I have been unable to install Ubuntu.  Can anyone help?
[11:26] <fotoflo3> everythings been lame
[11:27] <nolimitsoya> !help me | Grognard
[11:27] <ubotwo> Grognard: This is a temporary replacement for Ubotu. You can browse Ubotu's brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:27] <fotoflo3> i mean, i have everything working for the most part, now, but it took me ages to setup
[11:27] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, do you have "ati" in your xorg.conf?
[11:27] <mwe> Ayabara: route -n
[11:27] <Ayabara> mwe, thanks
[11:28] <mwe> Ayabara: or 'ip route'
[11:28] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, under Section "Device" you should have driver "ati"
[11:28] <Alakazamz0r> do you have that sp0ro
[11:28] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, for instance mine looks like this http://pastebin.ca/322389
[11:29] <sp0ro> Checking now, one min
[11:29] <Alakazamz0r> okay
[11:29] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, again it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <sp0ro> ah, I see. Can I just manually change the resolutions in here, save it and then reboot gnome?
[11:30] <Alakazamz0r> well, granted the module is loaded yes.
[11:30] <Alakazamz0r> idealy... you want something like this...
[11:30] <Iphigenia> AlexC_: GPHPEdit has great code highlighting but is it really intended for running a larger site? I am running a 150 page site (with no PHP)
[11:30] <Grognard> !help me | Grognard
[11:30] <ubotwo> Grognard: This is a temporary replacement for Ubotu. You can browse Ubotu's brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:31] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, http://pastebin.ca/322391
[11:31] <sp0ro> One sec, I'll put up my section device on pastebin
 What's your problem exactly?
[11:31] <Alakazamz0r> as you see, my default color depth is 24
[11:31] <Woolie> heya all
[11:31] <Alakazamz0r> and i put "1280x1024_60" as the only option because i have an LCD that functions best @ that resolution/refresh rate
[11:31] <sp0ro> http://pastebin.ca/322392
[11:31] <Alakazamz0r> hi Woolie
[11:31] <sp0ro> that's what is in mine
[11:31] <frogzoo> anyone experienced the problem where oowriter goes full screen, and you can't unfullscreen it again?
[11:32] <Woolie> im running ubunto, and i added a wireless card, now ubuntu wont boot. any ideas?
[11:32] <AlexC_> Iphigenia: how often would you have all 150 pages open? I'm currently coding an entre content management system like Mambo/Druple etc and I love it for it,
[11:32] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, looks good
[11:32] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, what are the results of
[11:32] <Alakazamz0r> glxinfo |grep render
[11:32] <AlexC_> Iphigenia: it picks out functions, classes, vars etc so they are on the sidebar (if you want) so you don't forget a function syntax etc
[11:32] <Iphigenia> AlexC_: True, and I am grateful for the steer
[11:32] <niekie> Hmm... is it ok for "uptime" to give the wrong usercount?
[11:33] <sp0ro> Doesn't look too good heh
[11:33] <Alakazamz0r> niekie, use "
[11:33] <Alakazamz0r> "who"
[11:33] <sp0ro> http://pastebin.ca/322393
[11:33] <niekie> Alakazamz0r, I did.
[11:33] <niekie> Was wondering why it did that, though.
[11:33] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, do
[11:33] <savvas> niekie: the user count gets bigger by the terminal consoles you have open
[11:33] <Iphigenia> AlexC_: And I shall have a good look at it. Thanx for the guide
[11:34] <Alakazamz0r> lsmod |grep fglrx
[11:34] <AlexC_> Iphigenia: youre welcome,
[11:34] <eternalswd> how do I replace the "Main Menu" icon for gnome-panel?
[11:34] <sp0ro> Done
[11:34] <niekie> savvas, I see.
[11:34] <Marupa> Hey, still having problems with JRE.  I'm trying to install the JRE 6, and all it does is extract.
[11:34] <Alakazamz0r> what did it return sp0ro ?
[11:34] <savvas> niekie: type: users
[11:34] <sp0ro> Didn't do anything at all
[11:35] <Alakazamz0r> mine said root@httlws70:~# lsmod |grep nvi
[11:35] <Alakazamz0r> nvidia               4552052  12
[11:35] <niekie> savvas, shows "niekie"
[11:35] <niekie> Only 1 :)
[11:35] <Alakazamz0r> nothing sp0ro ?
[11:35] <savvas> niekie: ok now try the uptime
[11:35] <sp0ro> nothing
[11:35] <niekie> savvas, 3 users.
[11:35] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, "modprobe fglrx"
[11:35] <savvas> :o
[11:35] <sp0ro> Uh oh:(
[11:35] <sp0ro> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[11:36] <savvas> niekie: do you update frequently ?
[11:36] <Alakazamz0r> ok so you dont have the drivers installed.
[11:36] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[11:36] <niekie> savvas, yes.
[11:36] <zukero> hi
[11:36] <sp0ro> I just installed them earlier lol not sure how they managed to get uninstalled already
[11:36] <Marupa> Any ideas on how to get JRE to install?
[11:36] <savvas> niekie: do you have any protection against rootkits?
[11:36] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, "updatedb && locate fglrx"
[11:37] <niekie> savvas, chkrootkit
[11:37] <zukero> i have an Intel core 2 duo processor. should I install ubuntu  x86 or x64 version ?
[11:37] <Alakazamz0r> zukero, x86
[11:37] <zukero> ok
[11:37] <GaiaX11> I have 2 javas plugins: java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun and java-gcj 1041 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj    So, how do I set one of them to work?
[11:37] <savvas> niekie: use this one too: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html
[11:37] <Grognard> what do I do when the installation can't mount my CDROM?
[11:37] <Marupa> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:37] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro "sudo aptitude search fglrx"
[11:38] <niekie> savvas, can I do sudo apt-get install rkhunter?
[11:38] <Marupa> for you, GaiaX11.
 do I need to be logged on root to do the update command?
[11:38] <Alakazamz0r> yes sp0ro
[11:38] <Alakazamz0r> hince sudo :)
[11:38] <Alakazamz0r> all this should be done as root sp0ro
[11:38] <zukero> Alakazamz0r : but the core 2 duo has the 64 bits instruction extensions... would I have trouble using x64 version ?
[11:38] <Alakazamz0r> have you not been root sp0ro
[11:38] <niekie> savvas, meh, I'll just compile it.
[11:38] <sp0ro> I don't think so
 not sure man... im not too sure on that.
[11:39] <niekie> Though I personally doubt anything being rooted.
[11:39] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, do "sudo -i"
[11:39] <frogzoo> zukero: 64bit support isn't as complete as 32 - 64bit's only worth it for servers imo
[11:39] <zukero> ok thanks
[11:39] <HuibertGill> !bittorrent
[11:39] <ubotwo> bittorrent - Scatter-gather network file transfer - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[11:39] <Marupa> Anyone?  Need help getting JRE installed.
[11:40] <zukero> 'cause i'm running the same install i had on my old P4, and with my c2d, it keeps crashing
[11:40] <Ayabara> any rtorrent users here? I have a problem using rtorrent with fat32..
[11:40] <owh> Marupa: Help in what way?
[11:40] <zukero> guess i'm on for a reinstall
[11:40] <niekie> savvas, running check.
[11:40] <savvas> niekie: nope, i don't think so
[11:40] <savvas> ok
[11:40] <Marupa> I downloaded the newest self-extracter, did sudo ./jre-etc-etc  and all it does is uncompress it, it doesn't install it.
[11:41] <owh> zukero: I'd be surprised if you need a re-install. I migrated my installation for seven years across countless platforms.
[11:41] <Alakazamz0r> Marupa, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_v5.0_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:41] <hanso> hey. I just compiled a alsa and realtek drivers. but MIDI will not play. I get an error saying /dev/sequenser doesn't exist. what to do?
[11:41] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, problems?
[11:41] <sp0ro> Nope, did the two commands you said to do.
[11:41] <owh> Marupa: From where did you download the self-extractor?
[11:41] <Marupa> java.sun.com
[11:41] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, now do "whoami"
[11:41] <Alakazamz0r> should say root
[11:42] <sp0ro> yes
[11:42] <zukero> owh : i got less crashing when i removed the ndiswrapper driver i compiled for the P4, but I still can't get uptime more than 24hrs
[11:42] <Alakazamz0r> Marupa, once again
[11:42] <owh> Marupa: Any reason you didn't just do apt-get install sun-java5-jre?
[11:42] <Alakazamz0r> Marupa, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_v5.0_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:42] <Alakazamz0r> ok sp0ro
[11:42] <Marupa> because I need java 6, owh.
[11:42] <zukero> owh : X keeps crashing
[11:42] <Choupette> Hello, I got problems with cedega (or winex) since my opengl is not recognize, i presume the cause is that i am using beryl and xgl...Am I wrong?
[11:43] <owh> zukero: What was your "old" hardware, and what is your "new" hardware?
[11:43] <BULLE> Marupa: extracting it, is all that is needed
[11:43] <Marupa> Alakazamz0r, link's dead.
[11:43] <niekie> savvas, mind me pasting something to you in PM?
[11:43] <savvas> niekie: everything should be ok and clean
[11:43] <BULLE> Marupa: put it in some directory, and add the bin dir to yoru path, and make a env var called JDK_HOME and JAVA_HOME and point to the top jdk dir
[11:43] <zukero> owh : old was P4 2ghz, new is core 2 duo 1.9 ghz
[11:43] <savvas> niekie: go ahead :)
[11:43] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r, anything else I should do?
[11:43] <Marupa> I don't see how, BULLE.  It needs to be installed or else the system won't use it.
[11:43] <BULLE> Marupa: and you are good to go
[11:43] <owh> zukero: Same VGA?
[11:43] <Alakazamz0r> yes sp0ro hold on
[11:43] <zukero> owh : yeah, geforce 6600 agp
[11:44] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r Ok np :)
[11:44] <BULLE> Marupa: just run the programs that need java6 from your user account
[11:44] <MaTaKs> when i try to open the terminal i can see "mataks@ubuntu$" can i change the ubuntu thingy on other name?
[11:44] <owh> zukero: I'd be even more surprised if you need to re-install. I'd try by seeing what syslog tells you and what the x-logs show.
[11:44] <Marupa> How would I do that, BULLE?
[11:44] <BULLE> Marupa: or, run them from another user account, that has the jdk 1.6 bin dir in its path and JAVA_HOME and JDK_HOME set properly
[11:45] <zukero> owh : where's the X log ?
[11:45] <BULLE> Marupa: what program is it that requires java 6 that you want to run ?
[11:45] <Marupa> and why can't it just be installed properly and actually work how it should?
[11:45] <Marupa> azureus.
[11:45] <owh> zukero: /var/log
[11:45] <BULLE> Marupa: because the thing you downloaded is NOT an ubuntu package
[11:45] <zukero> owh : :) *dumb*
[11:45] <BULLE> Marupa: thats why it doesnt install like your average ubuntu .deb package
[11:45] <owh> zukero: Heh.
[11:46] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, did you get my PM's?
[11:46] <sp0ro> Yes
[11:46] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r, I sent one back to my knowledge
[11:46] <BULLE> Marupa: and afaik azureus doesnt require java 6
[11:46] <zukero> owh : just waking up, a bit dizzy
[11:47] <Marupa> I just asked in azureus-support, and it does.
[11:47] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, you must not be registered... have you tried this? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Installation
[11:47] <owh> Marupa: I wrote a howto a little while back on how to install the Australian Taxation Office CSI software which requires Java, have a read of that: http://itmaze.com.au/articles/ato/
[11:47] <cidx> hey some bady can hel my get sound on linux ubuntu. My sound card is creative.  :) plz help is borring whit out sound
[11:47] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r, nope, let me do that now
[11:47] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, use Method 1: Install the Driver the Ubuntu Way
[11:47] <BULLE> Marupa: the official azureus homepage says otherwise
[11:48] <Alakazamz0r> dont forget "Configure the Driver" part sp0ro
[11:48] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r Ok
[11:48] <Marupa> tell that to the users in the support channel, then.
[11:48] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[11:48] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r heh thanks
[11:48] <Alakazamz0r> no prob sp0ro
[11:48] <Marupa> cause it's erroring out and crashing.
[11:48] <Alakazamz0r> :D
[11:48] <jormung> how do i connect ubuntu to the internet?
[11:48] <GaiaX11> Marupa: Many thx :-) for the help
[11:48] <cidx> hey some bady can hel my get sound on linux ubuntu. My sound card is creative.  :) plz help is borring whit out sound
[11:48] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r I'll tell you how it goes once I finish :)
[11:48] <jormung> i tried ethernet andmodem
[11:48] <owh> jormung: In what way do you mean?
[11:48] <Alakazamz0r> please do sp0ro :)
[11:48] <BULLE> Marupa: latest version is erroring out and crashing with java 6 aswell ......
[11:48] <jormung> well it did not autodetect the modem
[11:49] <cidx> hey some bady can help my get sound on linux ubuntu. My sound card is creative.  :) plz help is borring whit out sound
[11:49] <owh> jormung: Do you have an ethernet connection to the world?
[11:49] <jormung> but the device manager picked up that there is a usb modem
[11:49] <JulioB> cidx: stop reposting
[11:49] <jormung> i have a USB broadband modem
[11:49] <kritzstapf> hi, i added vga=795 to my kernel parameters, now my ttys are fine in 1280x1024, but the bootsplash is no longer centered because its aligned for 1024x786, how to fix that?
[11:50] <owh> jormung: Ah, well that will give you grief. Does it also have an Ethernet connector?
[11:50] <Alakazamz0r> jormung, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Network
[11:50] <jormung> no
[11:50] <Alakazamz0r> yes
[11:50] <owh> jormung: What device is it?
[11:50] <cidx> Need help to get sound in linux !
[11:50] <owh> Alakazamz0r: jormung was saying no to my question :-)
[11:50] <jormung> a adsl usb broadband modem
[11:51] <Alakazamz0r> i know owh im just giving him a hard time
[11:51] <owh> jormung: Yes, I understood that, what kind of usb broadband modem, what make and model.
[11:51] <jormung> oh
[11:51] <Alakazamz0r> jormung, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=usb+dsl+site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[11:51] <jormung> Dlink     DSL 200
[11:52] <owh> jormung: Wait a mo....
[11:52] <nnn> Hi all
[11:52] <Alakazamz0r> hello nnn
[11:52] <nnn> Anybody know what I must do for playing midi files?
[11:52] <BULLE> Marupa: but as i said, move that dir that you uncompressed to say ~/program
[11:52] <Alakazamz0r> nnn http://www.google.com/search?q=+midi+files+ubuntu&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
[11:53] <jormung> nnn download timidity
[11:53] <BULLE> Marupa: add program/jdk-1.6.0/bin to the front of your PATH
[11:53] <owh> jormung: That won't be trivial. Start by reading this: http://twhiteman.netfirms.com/linux_adsl.html
[11:53] <jormung> ok
[11:53] <jhai1> Is there a DVD player for Ubuntu that plays the opening menu, etc.  With totem I need to open the video files individually.
[11:53] <BULLE> Marupa: set JDK_HOME and JAVA_HOME to point to ~/program/jdk-1.6.0
[11:53] <BULLE> Marupa: java -version should now say java 1.6.0 blah blah bla
[11:53] <owh> jormung: There is more here: http://twhiteman.netfirms.com/linux_adsl.html
[11:54] <BULLE> Marupa: then just run azureus
[11:54] <Alakazamz0r> jhai1, try XINE
[11:54] <Alakazamz0r>  jhai1, or mplayer
[11:54] <Lynoure> jhai1: sounds like you are missing some of the dvd libraries.
[11:54] <Lynoure> !dvd
[11:54] <ubotwo> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:54] <jhai1> Alakazamz0r:  Thanks.
[11:54] <jormung> i use ubuntu 6.06 what version is my kernel?
[11:54] <Alakazamz0r> no problem <jhai1>
[11:55] <jhai1> Lynoure: Thanks.
[11:55] <Alakazamz0r> jormung, uname -a
[11:55] <owh> jormung: If you have the option, give the modem back and ask for one with an Ethernet socket. If that's not possible you may be in for a spot of bother.
[11:55] <holy_cow> jhai1, vlc
 i use VLC
[11:55] <jormung> its not possible
[11:55] <Alakazamz0r> ive never played a DVD w/it though
[11:55] <jhai1> Lynoure: Are they for playing DRM?  This isn't an issue as it is a home made DVD.
 its not possible <--- what isnt possible?
[11:55] <Marupa> it still says 1.5.0_08, BULLE.
[11:55] <owh> Alakazamz0r: Giving the modem back.
[11:56] <Alakazamz0r> owh, what?
[11:56] <BULLE> Marupa: "which java"
[11:56] <BULLE> Marupa: what does it say ?
[11:56] <daget> hi
[11:56] <Marupa> /usr/bin/java
[11:56] <owh> Alakazamz0r: jormung says that it's not possible to give the modem back and ask for an Ethernet version.
[11:56] <owh> Hiya daget.
[11:56] <Lynoure> jhai1: I know it is not an inherent limitation with totem, I've played dvd menus with it many times. Have you tried with other dvds? Or verified the menus of that particular dvd are functional?
[11:56] <BULLE> Marupa: so, you have NOT added the ~/programs/jdk-1.6.0/bin dir to the FRONT of your PATH variable
[11:56] <Alakazamz0r> owh, there isnt an ethernet por ton your modem?
[11:57] <daget> haw can i change directory to install a program on my destop in ubuntu
[11:57] <Marupa> I just did, and it didn't change.
[11:57] <Alakazamz0r> ^port on
[11:57] <BULLE> Marupa: no you didnt
[11:57] <Marupa> wanna check my log?
[11:57] <owh> Alakazamz0r: No, I asked if jormung could return the mode in exchange for an Ethernet equipped device.
[11:57] <Alakazamz0r> oh owh
[11:57] <BULLE> Marupa: you most likely added it to the end of your PATH variable
[11:57] <owh> daget: What are you trying to do?
[11:57] <Alakazamz0r> owh, what kind (make and model) does he have?
[11:58] <daget> instal java
[11:58] <BULLE> Marupa: just paste echo $PATH to me, in a private msg please
[11:58] <owh> Alakazamz0r: Dlink DSL 200.
[11:58] <owh> Alakazamz0r: Yuk.
[11:58] <Marupa> I added it.  I echo'd.  it's not there.
[11:58] <Marupa> at all.
[11:58] <Alakazamz0r> daget, aptitude -y install sun-java5-jre
[11:58] <owh> daget: That's what I was typing too :-)
[11:58] <BULLE> Marupa: ehm, if you added it, then it surely should be there
[11:59] <daget> alakazamor: but i cant change directory
[11:59] <owh> BULLE: Not if Marupa didn't export it.
[11:59] <Alakazamz0r> yeah owh but a pppoe connection is a pppoe connection
[11:59] <owh> daget: You don't need to.
[11:59] <owh> Alakazamz0r: Only once you have the USB part licked.
[11:59] <Alakazamz0r> daget what does  aptitude -y install sun-java5-jre have to do with changing a directory.
[11:59] <BULLE> owh: perhaps i shouldnt take it for granted that one would export the var
[11:59] <Alakazamz0r> yes owh
[11:59] <owh> BULLE: Heh :-)
[11:59] <lskd-255> if anyone is keeping a record, After just now updating my bios, I had some networking issues and just finally rebooted without the connection and plug 'n' prayed.
[12:00] <daget> sb says 'Make the downloaded file executable. At the command line, change to the directory where you downloaded the file, and typ'
[12:00] <owh> lskd-255: Did you hold your tounge right?
 ?
[12:00] <Alakazamz0r> huh
[12:00] <lskd-255> <---- we be jammin :)
[12:00] <owh> daget: Where did you download the file to?
 you arent listening to me.
[12:00] <Alakazamz0r> last time
[12:00] <daget> desktop
[12:00] <lskd-255> owh, most certainly!!!
[12:00] <Alakazamz0r> daget what does  aptitude -y install sun-java5-jre have to do with changing a directory.
[12:00] <Alakazamz0r>  aptitude -y install sun-java5-jre
[12:00] <Alakazamz0r> TYPE that
[12:00] <owh> daget: I agree with Alakazamz0r.
[12:01] <owh> lskd-255: Were there goats involved?
[12:01] <daget> yes i did. but it says 'Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?'
[12:01] <owh> daget: Ah.
[12:01] <jormung> i have ubuntu 6.06 what version of the lionux kernel do i have?
  are you root?
[12:01] <owh> daget: add sudo in front of the command.
[12:01] <lskd-255> that tongue thing is the only way to do it when things come down to the plug 'n' pray
[12:01] <daget> how?
[12:01] <Alakazamz0r> sudo  aptitude -y install sun-java5-jre
[12:01] <lskd-255> owh, nope, no goats
[12:01] <Alakazamz0r> type that
[12:01] <BULLE> jormung: dejavu ?
[12:01] <Ignite_> jormung, run uname -r in the terminal to find out.
[12:02] <owh> lskd-255: Well, no point in asking about the moon then :-)
[12:02] <lskd-255> hahahha
[12:02] <jormung> i will have to take out lots of connections
[12:02] <daget> now it says 'Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?'
[12:02] <Alakazamz0r> jormung, i answered you @ 4:55am CST "<Alakazamz0r> jormung, uname -a"
[12:02] <jormung> can somone give me an an approximate answer
[12:02] <owh> daget: Are you running the software tools?
[12:02] <Ignite_> daget, is synaptic or the update manager running?
[12:03] <Ignite_> jormung, 2.6.15, approx.
[12:03] <lskd-255> owh, I did have to break open the win me laptop :\
[12:03] <daget> by the way i an installing st with installer from ubuntu packets.
[12:03] <jormung> thank you lskd
[12:03] <owh> daget: What I asked is the same as Ignite_'s question.
[12:03] <daget> yes it is running
[12:03] <Alakazamz0r> daget "killall -9 aptitude apt-get && sudo  aptitude -y install sun-java5-jre"
[12:03] <owh> lskd-255: As long as there was no soldering iron involved.
[12:03] <owh> Alakazamz0r: You could just use the Software Packager :-)
[12:03] <owh> daget: Which one is running>
[12:04] <Laughtear> does anyone knows channels in turkish?
[12:04] <daget> add/remove program is runnung
[12:04] <lskd-255> owh, nah, I'm cool.  I only use that when I'm desperate, and that's not been the case for a good long time.
[12:04] <Alakazamz0r> owh, im a bash geek
[12:04] <Alakazamz0r> heh
[12:04] <owh> daget: In there, search for sun-java5-jre and install that.
[12:04] <muffin_123> Hey guys, I have a little problem: I have access to my partitions, which I wrote into /etc/fstab , however they dont appear on the Desktop or in the Menu
[12:04] <daget> yes i am now installing it but it takes so much
[12:05] <Ignite_> daget, if you're trying to install java, just wait until add/remove programs is finished. Then go to System -> administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, search for "java", the install the "sun-java5-jre" package.
[12:05] <Alakazamz0r> for the guy with the DLINK DSL modem http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=linux+site%3Asupport.dlink.com
[12:05] <Alakazamz0r> for the guy with the DLINK DSL modem http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=linux+site%3Asupport.dlink.com
[12:05] <owh> lskd-255: Hey, I'm in the process of building a two-time timer so I can make time-laps photos. Mind you this was before I found timelapse software for my Treo 650 :)
[12:05] <Lynoure> owh: there are many
[12:05] <owh> Alakazamz0r: That would be jormung.
[12:06] <owh> Lynoure: Many what?
[12:06] <EmxBA> brb
[12:06] <Alakazamz0r> aah
[12:06] <Lynoure> owh: Oh, that was not a question :)  Many timer softs for Palm.
[12:06] <Alakazamz0r> jormung,  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=linux+site%3Asupport.dlink.com
[12:06] <lskd-255> owh, I wouldn't know anything about that,  ya know with newb credentials and stuff
[12:06] <Alakazamz0r> thats vague, but it'll help
[12:06] <owh> Lynoure: Only found one that can fire off the in-built camera :)
[12:07] <owh> Lynoure: It's called: TeksPhotos.
[12:07] <Lynoure> owh: thanks :)
[12:07] <owh> lskd-255: Hey, we all started there. Remember this, a Boeing 747 pilot had to fly on his own in a Cessna once too :-)
[12:08] <shape> g'morning guys
[12:08] <muffin_123> Hey why my partitions dont appear on the Desktop as Icons, though I can access them via nautilus / bash ?
[12:08] <owh> shape: Not in this timezone :-)
[12:08] <lskd-255> owh, np, I'll take that as a truism
[12:08] <kritzstapf> anyone knows where gfxboot-theme-ubuntu installs?
[12:08] <shape> is this an apt command to check the integrity of a package?
[12:08] <shape> oh sorry owh
[12:08] <shape> :)
[12:09] <owh> shape: I was just yanking your chain.
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, double click them?
[12:09] <shape> wherever u are:)
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> shape "
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> "man apt"
[12:09] <aedrafzt> hey, i record with my microphone using ardour but it is very quiet, and when i turn on the mic boost in alsamixer then it sounds bad, how can i record louder and keep the sound good?
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> shape, do the packages have md5sums?
[12:09] <ubinsp> Hello.
[12:09] <Alakazamz0r> hi ubinsp
[12:10] <ubinsp> Is there users of loop-aes here?
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> root@httlws70:~# md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> 694622a2ffbec84d25d956c059577e88  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> shape, thats one way
[12:10] <owh> shape: The integrity check is basically an MD5 check of the installed application.
[12:10] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: Well thats the "problem" I'd like to have the partition's icons on my desktop but they aren't there
[12:10] <shape> ok
[12:10] <shape> listen
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, they should appear when you mount them.
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> granted that your user can read the partition mount.
[12:10] <lskd-255> I think my video card works better after he bios update, it looks almost impressive
[12:10] <muffin_123> I konw, however the partitions are mounted
[12:10] <Alakazamz0r> good lskd-255
[12:11] <leobloom> hellO!
[12:11] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, what command did you use to mount them
[12:11] <shape> i have installed both synaptic and adept on my kubuntu realese
[12:11] <Alakazamz0r> hi leobloom
[12:11] <owh> lskd-255: As long as it's only almost, that leaves something to wish for :-)
[12:11] <Alakazamz0r> ok shape
[12:11] <shape> after some day of well working
[12:11] <kritzstapf> how to find out where a package installs files?
[12:11] <owh> kritzstapf: dpkg -L
[12:11] <kritzstapf> i cant find where gfxboot-theme-ubuntu is installed
[12:11] <ubinsp> Who can tell me how to adapt http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/loop-aes/ on ubuntu 6.10 ? (LOOP-AES)
[12:11] <leobloom> how can I report a bug manually? My azureus keeps on closing an  I dunno why, it's probably a bug
[12:11] <Casanova> is there a keyboard shortcut to send a window to the next desktop?
[12:11] <Alakazamz0r> kritzstapf, if you're looking for the executable package you can use "which whateverpackageyouinstalled"
[12:11] <shape> they tell me there's another application using aptget.....so i can't install or uninstalll anothing at all
[12:11] <muffin_123> sudo mount -a, but they are mounted automatically on startup...
[12:11] <lskd-255> I'm wondering how to drop some of their driver files in now, has anyone ever done something like that?
[12:11] <owh> leobloom: Applications -> Programming -> Report a Bug
[12:12] <Alakazamz0r> shape "ps -ef |grep apt"
[12:12] <netstar> Does anyone have a copy of /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh I could borrow?
[12:12] <Alakazamz0r> tell me if it returns anything shape
[12:12] <kritzstapf> owh, thats what im looking for, thank you :)
[12:12] <lskd-255> you know, things being predominately Win.
[12:12] <owh> shape: Is the updater still running?
[12:12] <Alakazamz0r> owh, apt (of some sort) is running or he isnt root.
[12:12] <owh> lskd-255: Well in some circles, I'd agree with that :-)
[12:12] <shape> yes
[12:12] <Alzi2> Hey. I am forced to use Xubuntu because, ubuntu gets really slow after a while of using it. Specs: Motherboard: PCchips M811LU, Memory: 512 MB DDR 333, Harddisk: Maxtor 80 GB 7200RPM, CD-Rom-drive: Samsung 16 speed DVD-player. Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250SE 128MB DDR with TV-OUT, Sound card: AC97 5.1 Full-duplex home cinema sound. Internetcard: 10/100MBIT LAN onboard. USB: 6x usb 2.0; AGP-slot: Present for an extra videocard(8x), PCI: 5xPCI for 
[12:12] <shape> let me try
[12:12] <leobloom> sorry but i don't have a "programming" link in applicaitons menu =o/
[12:12] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: in /etc/fstab: /dev/hda5	/mnt/windowsd	ntfs	defaults,user,umask=0222
[12:13] <Alzi2> Please, somebody help me
[12:13] <Alakazamz0r> lskd-255, "drop some of their driver files" ?
[12:13] <owh> Alakazamz0r: Not necessarily, it could be anything that is locking it.
[12:13] <adaptr> Alzi2: pcchips mobo's are notorious for their horrible performance
[12:13] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, nothing appears when you do a "mount -a"?
[12:13] <adaptr> Alzi2: what CPU is on it ?
[12:13] <Alakazamz0r> owh, like what else?
[12:13] <muffin_123> exactly! :P
[12:13] <owh> shape: What is the *exact* error?
[12:13] <Alzi2> adaptr: AMD Athlon 2800+ with a silent cooler
[12:13] <lskd-255> alakazamz)r, you know linux drivers are .so and win is dll or something
[12:14] <adaptr> Alzi2: 512MB is not a *lot* of memory
[12:14] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, hold.
[12:14] <Alzi2> adaptr: We extended it.
[12:14] <owh> leobloom: Hmm, well one mo...
[12:14] <muffin_123> okey
[12:14] <owh> leobloom: Go here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[12:14] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, there's no "0 0" @ the end?
[12:14] <sp0ro> Alakazamz0r, I have a huge issue, do you have AIM and/or MSN by chance? if so pm me details if you have time to help
[12:14] <owh> leobloom: That's where the bug report tool goes :-)
[12:15] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, i do.
[12:15] <adaptr> Alzi2: you said "Memory: 512 MB DDR 333"
[12:15] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: Argh damn I forgot them! Thanks a lot
[12:15] <Alakazamz0r> sp0ro, you get my msg?
[12:15] <Alzi2> Alzi2: That is on the paper which displays all specs when we first bought it. Only the RAM has been modified
[12:15] <owh> dennden: I'll answer questions inn the channel, not on PM.
[12:15] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, that may not be the problem.
[12:15] <Alakazamz0r> we'll see though
[12:16] <owh> shape: How did you go with the exact error?
[12:16] <muffin_123> Ok you're right, nothing changed
[12:16] <GaiaX11> In my synaptic list I have skype and skype-static. Which is the best for me to install?
[12:16] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, you may want to make it /dev/hda5 /mnt/windowsd ntfs defaults,user,rw,umask=0222 0 0
[12:16] <Alakazamz0r> all in one line
[12:16] <shape> ok it tells me there are some newpackages to update
[12:16] <Bobbix> morning
[12:17] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: Yeah did it already, but nothing changed after a new Umount / mount
[12:17] <dennden> owh: my ??? says delli@delli-laptop:~$ and how can i change to destop directory to install some pacets on desktop
[12:17] <Bobbix> please i need your help
[12:17] <Bobbix> wifi problems
[12:17] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, are you trying to write to it too?
[12:17] <owh> shape: I'm confused.
[12:17] <Bobbix> i've configured an zd1211 usb wifi with ndiswrapper but i don't connect with my router
[12:17] <owh> dennden: What happened to aptitude -y install sun-java5-jre
[12:17] <muffin_123> ehm no, not yet, later i need to install the ntfs-3g driver in order to do that
[12:17] <Bobbix> can you help me ???
[12:18] <Alakazamz0r> ok muffin_123
[12:18] <owh> shape: What command did you run to get that message?
[12:18] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, try knocking it down to "/dev/hda1  /mnt/ntfs  ntfs  defaults  0 0"
[12:18] <dennden> owh : it says: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:18] <Alakazamz0r> or whatever your windows partition is.
[12:18] <Lynoure> Alzi2: Have you paid attention to the process list, top and vwstat?
[12:19] <Lynoure> Alzi2: Those can help you to pin point just what is slowing you system down.
[12:19] <ubinsp> No one is interested by partition encryption? :(
[12:19] <shape> i simply click on the icon of adept updating package
[12:19] <owh> dennden: So then we suggested to search for sun-java5-jre inside the System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager.
[12:19] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: Didnt help, saved fstab und remounted the partition
[12:19] <owh> shape: Cool, so do the update.
[12:19] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, type "mount |grep ntfs"
[12:19] <Bobbix> no body help me ???
[12:19] <Alzi2> Lynoure: Hmm.. By the way, i'm going to reboot, check if the backup still exists and then install Ubuntu. Talk to Alzi2_ for now, that's me on my laptop.
[12:20] <owh> Bobbix: As you might notice we're a tad busy at the moment.
[12:20] <Lynoure> Alzi2_: Does the slowdown happen even when you are not actively using you computer?
[12:20] <shape> yes but at least it doesn' update nothing at all and so it gives thast error message
[12:20] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: /dev/hda5 on /mnt/windowsd type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0222)
[12:20] <muffin_123> /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windowsc type ntfs (rw)
[12:20] <muffin_123> /dev/hda2 on /mnt/windowse type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0222)
[12:20] <dennden> owh: i downloaded jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin in mydesktop
[12:20] <owh> shape: Cool, what is the exact error?
[12:20] <owh> dennden: No, that is not what we're trying to do.
[12:21] <Alzi2_> Lynoure, Well, it happens like this: I use Ubuntu for a month or two, and every day it gets slower. A year later, it is too slow to use, even if you reboot.
[12:21] <Bobbix> i ask for my problem for a week and no response anytime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:21] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: ( I just tried it with one of the 3 partitions as you can see )
[12:21] <dennden> yes i tried whot you said but i takes so long i dont have time
[12:21] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, "/dev/hda5 on /mnt/windowsd ntfs  defaults  0 0"
[12:21] <Bobbix> ( thanks for your support community )
[12:21] <Lynoure> Alzi2_: Which release of ubuntu are you using? And how do you measure the slowing?
[12:21] <owh> dennden: Well, that's just tough really then isn't it ;-)
[12:21] <lskd-255> ahh, I don't think I need to worry about that,  it runs well enough and technology has advanced that anything that comes out is copacetic with industry standards,  they were just gigabyte's audio, sata-ide/raid, lan, chipset, and usb2.0 updates,   hmmm, but that audio is the latest and it was updated last month 12.19.06     I've been annoyed with some compression when using internet radio.
[12:21] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: ( I just tried it with one of the 3 partitions as you can see )
[12:22] <Alzi2_> Lynoure, Edgy Eft, downloaded the ISO when it was just released.
[12:22] <Alakazamz0r> aah sorry muffin_123
[12:22] <owh> dennden: I'm trying to show you how it should be done, because it will cause you less grief further down the tack. You are free to ignore that.
[12:22] <cappiz> someone here ever tried this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem ?
[12:22] <Alakazamz0r> /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windowsc isnt on your desktop muffin_123
[12:22] <Alakazamz0r> ?
[12:22] <Lynoure> Alzi2_: Edgy has not been out for even nearly a year yet...
[12:22] <muffin_123> no it isnt, Alakazamz0r
[12:22] <dennden> owh:ok thank youthen another q?
[12:22] <cappiz> i got a problem... when i boot i get Grub error 25.... i dont understand what i have done wrong.
[12:22] <owh> shape: Let me get this straight, you're running gui tools and getting an error, there's no command line stuff happening then?
[12:22] <muffin_123> Alakazamz0r: Perhaps you could give me your /home/Alak/Desktop/yourpartition.desktop file ?
[12:22] <owh> dennden: You can try :)
[12:23] <dennden> owh: my ??? says delli@delli-laptop:~$ and how can i change to destop directory to install some pacets on desktop
[12:23] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, i dont have any windows partitions, my windows partitions are network shares.
[12:23] <muffin_123> argh damn -.-
[12:23] <Alakazamz0r> /htpwfs94/TSS  /media/tss      smbfs   username=adminmtk,password=********,rw,umask=0002,auto 0 1
[12:23] <MatthewV> dennden, cd ~/Desktop    ?
[12:23] <owh> dennden: The thing you downloaded is *not* a package. It's an installer. The command to get to the directory where you downloaded it is: "cd ~/Desktop"
[12:23] <owh> dennden: Don't tell me later that I didn't warn you.
[12:24] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Check your PM
[12:24] <tiolpxe> hi im using ubuntu edgy (fresh install) which ships with upstream and no inittab.  Anyone know how i can get it to boot to the command line as apposed to gdm. What innitab users will know as runlevel3????
[12:24] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, try "/dev/hda3 /media/windows vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0"
[12:24] <Alakazamz0r> or what not
[12:24] <owh> shape: Just for fun, log out, then log back in, then try again. I think you have multiple Gui tools open.
[12:24] <adaptr> Alakazamz0r: you're missing at least one slash there
[12:24] <Alakazamz0r> instead of vfat, ntfs
[12:24] <muffin_123> Okey i mom
[12:24] <Alakazamz0r> adaptr, yeah i am, it didnt paste for some reason
[12:24] <Alakazamz0r> im securecrt'd in.
[12:25] <Lynoure> Alzi2: I mostly do not do unpaid support in msg, if it is not extremely interesting or fun to do.
[12:25] <Alakazamz0r> muffin_123, the only other thing i can sugguest is searching through http://www.google.com/search?q=mount+fstab+ntfs+ubuntu&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
[12:25] <Alzi2> Lynoure, You a commercial supporter?
[12:26] <muffin_123> hehe already did that, seems that I'm the only one with that problem, but thank you anyway :)
[12:26] <Lynoure> Alzi2: Yes and no, I do also commercial support through my own business.
[12:26] <Alakazamz0r> sorry muffin_123 :(
[12:26] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Perfect, so you can help me with this? ^^
[12:26] <muffin_123> no problem :)
[12:26] <Lynoure> Alzi2: This all is pro bono.
[12:26] <lilBeat> hey guys! i am following instructions on how to install beryl. in my xorg.conf there is no "load dbe". fix?
[12:26] <adaptr> fix
[12:26] <lilBeat> is there any fix?
[12:27] <muffin_123> Perhaps a restart can solve it ^^ Alakazamz0r, so bye for now
[12:27] <Lynoure> Alzi2: Possibly, if you answer the questions I asked. Like how do you measure slowdown and have you paid attention to process list and vwstat?
[12:27] <jhai1> Right, I got the gxine playing a DVD.  Next thing, I connected my laptop to a projector and managed to get gxine working on that (required a reboot - at least, restarting the X server) but now for some reason the screensaver of a random slideshow of f-spot photos doesn't work.  I just get a blank screen.  Any ideas what might have happened to it?
[12:27] <muffin_123> And thank you Alakazamz0r
[12:27] <Alakazamz0r> maybe muffin_123 good luck, no prob :)
[12:27] <Alzi2> Okay, Lynoure...So, I have Xubuntu now because that doesn't get so slow
[12:27] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Well, i read out the stats of 'top'....
[12:28] <Lynoure> Alzi2: pastebin, if there is more than two lines or so.
[12:28] <netstar> what screen font does /etc/console-tools/config use in edgy?>
[12:28] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Well, my PC has only xubuntu and windows now, so i can't really show it...
[12:29] <cappiz> anyone :>?
[12:29] <Lynoure> Alzi2: Sorry, without knowing how the slowdown has been measured and without the process list, I cannot really say anything as there is then no data to base things on. :(
[12:30] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Alright, then, I'll go install ubuntu, then.
[12:30] <lilBeat> hey guys! i am following instructions on how to install beryl. in my xorg.conf there is no "load dbe". how to solve this problem?
[12:30] <Alzi2> where to get vwstat?
[12:30] <jhai1> Alternatively, is it possible to get the slideshow in f-spot to be random?
[12:30] <Lynoure> Alzi2: It is installed by default, I think. Let's see...
[12:30] <Jowi> netstar, depends on your language and layout I bet. mine (dapper) uses lat0-sun16
[12:31] <netstar> ty
[12:31] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Ah, it's vmstat.
[12:32] <lskd-255> netstar,  mine shows  SCREEN_FONT=lat0-sun16
[12:32] <Alzi2> Lynoure: http://www.rafb.net/p/6FiS0X94.html
[12:32] <diakon> how to install OpenOffice v2.1 when older OO is now... :>
[12:33] <Mikelo> question: i changed my video card, how do i make ubuntu detect it & update /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:33] <pretende1> how can I install flash player plug-in for firefox? (I'm using ubuntu 6.10 64-bit version)
[12:34] <Mikelo> is it ok to use 32-bit version ubuntu on an athlon64?
[12:34] <pretende1> no I don't think so
[12:34] <Lynoure> Alzi2: One line once does not say much. Do that weekly for a month, maybe. You can also use  time to measure time it takes to execute a command, so if you do that right after a boot every time, that should start giving some pattern, if there is slowdown
[12:34] <Alzi2> Lynoure, http://www.rafb.net/p/6FiS0X94.html
[12:35] <lskd-255> mikelo, dpkg-reconfigure xserver.sorg
[12:35] <adaptr> Mikelo: it's preferred, as there are many things still broken in 64bit
[12:35] <JulioB> pretendel if you want the latest 9.0 release, you'll have to go ot the adobe website and follow instructions http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[12:35] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Ok
[12:35] <lskd-255> mikelo,  correction...............   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:36] <pretende1> ok thanks
[12:37] <Lynoure> Alzi2: you know how to get the list of processes, I assume? Keep an eye on that too.  Top is less useful, as it fluctuates a lot based on what you are doing.
[12:37] <dennden> owh: how can put this ~
[12:37] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Give me a good command for that, then.
[12:37] <jhai1> Can someone help please?  I cannot get the screensaver of photos from f-spot to work.  It was working until I plugged my laptop into a projector, which seems to have resulted in X being reconfigured, but now I just get a blank screen.  I have gone through all the configuration of the screensaver and there doesn't appear to be anything wrong.
[12:38] <HuibertGill> cappiz: grub error 25 is related to grub not being able to read the sektors of the hd to read the kernel...
[12:38] <Lynoure> Alzi2: ps -A is a classic :)
[12:38] <jhai1> Is there anywhere I might look for errors?
[12:38] <HuibertGill> cappiz: did you have a working setup before trying the encrypted fs
[12:39] <Ignite> jhai1, /var/log
[12:39] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Alright :). By the way, which to choose for a stable system: Dapper, or Edgy?
[12:39] <break_> ALRIGHT
[12:39] <Mikelo> lskd-255: i did that but unfortunately /etc/X11/xorg.conf has remained unchanged
[12:39] <Ignite> jhai1, that's usually where logs are kept, including error logs.
[12:39] <jhai1> Ignite: Thanks.  Anything in particular?  There is nothing in messages or Xorg.0.log
[12:40] <break_> !upgrade
[12:40] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:40] <Ignite> jhai1, you might try /var/log/messages
[12:40] <GaiaX11> Hi. In my synaptic list I have skype and skype-static. Which is the best for me to install?
[12:40] <edgy> Lynoure: if you need 5 years support go for dapper. If you love to upgrade go for edgy
[12:40] <Lynoure> Alzi2: Depends on whether you need anything from Edgy. I sticked with Dapper and have not regretted it so far.
[12:40] <Lynoure> edgy: I did not ask
[12:41] <Alzi2> Lynoure, What new features i possibly need are there in Edgy, then?
[12:41] <Lynoure> Alzi2: heh, if you have to ask, you prolly at most want something, and not even strongly that.
[12:41] <Ignite> GaiaX11, are you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu? skype-static for Ubuntu, skype for Kubuntu.
[12:41] <Ignite> Alzi2, is it for a desktop system? If so I'd install Edgy.
[12:42] <Alzi2> Ignite, Desktop, yes.
[12:42] <jhai1> Ignite: Doesn't help, I'm afraid.
[12:42] <GaiaX11> Ignite: Ubuntu. Thx :-)
[12:42] <Ignite> GaiaX11, np :)
[12:42] <Ignite> jhai1, sorry I can't offer anymore suggestions, I don't have a projector myself.
[12:43] <frogzoo> jhai1: have you tried 'make f-spot your screensaver' again?
[12:43] <jhai1> frogzoo: Several times.
[12:43] <jhai1> and it isn't plugged into the projector any more.
[12:43] <lskd-255> mikelo,  is it in an agp card skot?
[12:43] <jhai1> and it has been rebooted several times.
[12:43] <Ignite> Alzi2, I'd only install the LTS releases if you're doing mass deployments or if you're running a server you don't want to worry about for some time.
[12:44] <break_> i have dapper right now, should i upgrade to edgy
[12:44] <pretende1> I downloaded tar.gz file from adobe's official website and I tried to install flash player plug-in. but it says "Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[12:44] <pretende1>        Adobe Flash Player installer."
[12:44] <pretende1> What does it mean?
[12:44] <Mikelo> question: i changed my video card, i tried doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-via" (i have an integrated via card) but my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file has remained unchanged.... when i type lspci i read "unknown device"  next VGA etc...
[12:44] <Lynoure> Alzi2: I'll be going now. If you get slowdown in the future, get back to me with some data. I'd be glad to look at it.
[12:44] <Mikelo> lskd-255: no
[12:44] <jhai1> This wouldn't be so much of a problem if I could get f-spot to do a random slideshow itself.  Is that possible?  I cannot find it in any of the options.
[12:44] <Mikelo> lskd-255: its an integrated card
[12:44] <break_> i have dapper right now, should i upgrade to edgy
[12:44] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Wait!
[12:45] <Alzi2> Lynoure, Do you have an IM address?
[12:45] <Lynoure> break_: It's more a question of whether you want to than whether you should
[12:45] <break_> i dont care
[12:45] <Alzi2> Lynoure, So i can trace you and find you?
[12:45] <Nik_Doof> what package do i need to install to have dvd support in totem on edgy?
[12:45] <break_> what do you all think
[12:45] <Lynoure> Alzi2: I'm pretty much always on irc.
[12:45] <break_> edgy has some software that i cant get easily on dapper
[12:45] <Lynoure> Alzi2: Just not present always :)
[12:45] <Alzi2> Lynoure: Alright. I'll write your name down, then..
[12:46] <eternalswd> is there a way to allow normal users to mount?
[12:46] <Ignite> break_, personally I always keep with the latest release for the latest libraries and stuff. Also if you want a cool 3D desktop like you see in the videos it's a hell of a lot easier to setup in Edgy.
[12:46] <eternalswd> without sudo that is
[12:46] <lskd-255> hmmm,  I don't think there is a '-via' suffix to the xserver-xorg file
[12:46] <break_> well ive had my share of problems with dapper
[12:46] <lskd-255> when you tweak it it's only done at xserver-xorg
[12:47] <YoG> can I change the default encodeing of rhythmbox? I see gibrish  for hebrew fonts :-(
[12:47] <break_> i'm downloading at 1.6 MB/s
[12:47] <break_> nice
[12:47] <lskd-255> anything -via is a file to incorporate the built in addapter
[12:47] <jhai1> Hmmm, problem solved.  The screensaver appears to be a blank screen if the laptop is running off the battery, however it is set.  Is this documented anywhere?
[12:48] <Mikelo> lskd-255: it does have the via option if u install the xserver-xorg-video-unichrome package
[12:48] <oFF-beAt> my usplash theme doesn't show up anymore.. i get a blank screen
[12:49] <frogzoo> jhaig: look in gnome power settings
[12:49] <pretende1> can anybody help please?: I tried to install flash player plug-in, but it says "Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the adobe flash player installer" what does it mean? without flash player I am unable to visit most websites on the net! even the youtube!
[12:50] <storeyzy_bio> pretendel: use 32bit ubuntu
[12:50] <frogzoo> pretende1: exactly why 64bit on the desktop is too much hassle
[12:50] <storeyzy_bio> pretendel: if you are an expert, you can hack the 64 bit version to play flash
[12:51] <pretende1> I am not an expert unfortunately :)
[12:51] <frogzoo> storeyzy_bio: still sounds like a lot of work for not much
[12:51] <lskd-255> experts can write their own browser
[12:52] <storeyzy_bio> i delete my 64 bit FC6 and reinstall a 32bit version just to play flash
[12:52] <pretende1> storeyzy_bio: really???
[12:52] <frogzoo> storeyzy_bio: FC ?   o.o
[12:52] <lskd-255> opera is suppose to be able to play flash
[12:53] <lskd-255> the web browser opera
[12:53] <lskd-255> not opera winfry
[12:53] <YoG> can I change the default encodeing of rhythmbox? I see gibrish  for hebrew fonts... can't anyone help me with this?
[12:53] <storeyzy_bio> flash and wine, i think wine also does not work well with 64 bit
[12:53] <frogzoo> does no one know how to convince oowriter to no longer display fullscreen? the hotkey doesn't do it, it's a major pain
[12:54] <frogzoo> storeyzy_bio: not only that, wine in 64bit doesn't work at all
[12:54] <lskd-255> oh is that opra?  nevermind
[12:54] <lskd-255> it's to early
[12:54] <pretende1> so 64 bit is completely useless right now!
[12:54] <break_> alright so i downloaded a plugin for xchat, now what do i do with it
[12:55] <storeyzy_bio> my ubuntu 64bit hang at shutdown, but 32bit shut down without problem
[12:55] <frogzoo> a real expert would be working on a soft that will convert 32bit to 64
[12:55] <lskd-255> well, you can chroot a 32bit environment
[12:55] <lskd-255> some people say that's sketchy though
[12:56] <frogzoo> chroot is a pretty sad solution
[12:56] <pretende1> what is chroot?
[12:57] <lskd-255> things are kind of negotiated as if it's a 32 bit system
[12:57] <lskd-255> !chroot
[12:57] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:58] <pretende1> frogzoo: why chroot is a pretty bad solution?
[12:59] <lskd-255> gnash isn't any better
[12:59] <lskd-255> it's very beta
[01:00] <roxlu> hi all
[01:00] <Ignite> Hello
[01:00] <roxlu> where are the wallpapers saved on disk?
[01:01] <roxlu> Ignite: do you know?
[01:02] <frogzoo> does no one know how to convince oowriter to no longer display fullscreen? the hotkey doesn't do it, it's a major pain
[01:02] <Ignite> roxlu, /usr/share/backgrounds
[01:02] <roxlu> thanx
[01:02] <Ignite> np
[01:03] <Ignite> frogzoo, ctrl+shift+j
[01:05] <frogzoo> Ignite: thx, but the problem is gnome's fullscreen, ctrl shift j still leaves the window without the gnome title bar, and on top of other windows
[01:05] <Ignite> GNOME has that feature?
[01:05] <Ignite> :o
[01:05] <Ignite> You might wanna try asking in #gnome on irc.gnome.org
[01:05] <Ignite> :)
[01:06] <tiolpxe> hi when i try and ctrl+alt+f1 ... to go to a command line i just get a blank screen anyone any ideas why this is the case???
[01:07] <storeyzy_bio> ctrl+alt+f5?
[01:08] <tiolpxe> storeyzy_bio ?
[01:10] <rusher> http://phillip.tribble.googlepages.com/index.html
[01:12] <Ayabara> I need to manually apply a patch for my laptop. can someone take a look at the page and help me with what to do? I seem to remember that crimsun gave me a oneliner that did the trick once
[01:13] <secreet> Hey, if want to install ununtu and dont have a cd-reader. What do you suggest then?
[01:13] <secreet> Is there any "netinstall"?
[01:14] <rusher> debian has a netinstall lol
[01:14] <secreet> yeah i know but if i wanted to run debian, i would ask in debian.
[01:15] <eternalswd> secreet, what kind of media hardware does it have?
[01:15] <secreet> uhm, usb ;)
[01:16] <secreet> mp3 player with 2gb :P
[01:16] <jrib> !install | secreet
[01:16] <ubotu> secreet: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:16] <jrib> secreet: I don't know, but if there is a way, it should be on that first page
[01:17] <lamego> secreet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[01:18] <Ignite> secreet, and if that doesn't work, you could install a base debian system then "upgrade" it to Ubuntu... always entertaining. ;)
[01:19] <leobloo1> help! =o/ i had problems in connecting after rebootingthe system! I had to try hard to connect to internet again!
[01:19] <JulioB> secreet, i just had the same problem.   i used instlinux from windows.  then upgraded to ubuntu 6.10
[01:19] <leobloo1> can I post the log somewhere to show you?
[01:20] <Ignite> leobloo1, pastecode.com, slexy.org, pastebin.ca
[01:20] <Ignite> :)
[01:20] <Ignite> I think Ubuntu has an official one too, I don't know the URL.
[01:20] <Ignite> Hrm
[01:20] <Ignite> !pastebin > me
[01:20] <hjmills> what can i use to print photos - i want to get three on a page printed at specific sizes for putting in a frame i have
[01:21] <hjmills> !pastebin>me
[01:21] <hjmills> wow - i didnt know you could use me - thats handy, thanks Ignite
[01:21] <Ignite> hjmills, lol np.
[01:21] <JulioB> !pastebin >me
[01:22] <leobloo1> well it's not exactly a code, it just shwos what t  couldn't do/find when I typed sudo pon dsl-provider
[01:22] <leobloo1> http://www.pastecode.com/12108
[01:22] <leobloo1> what is the problem?
[01:22] <JulioB> funny, >me tells me not to do that :)
[01:25] <leobloo1> nopone knows what my problem is?
[01:25] <hjmills> JulioB, I think you are supposed to use /msg ubotu !whatever but !whatever>me seems easier
[01:26] <roxlu> when I want to create iso images of a directory, is there a way to auto-split on a certain size? (so 4.7 for my DVDs ?)
[01:26] <Alakazamz0r> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=winscp&filename=winscp382setup.exe&use_mirror=internap rocks!
[01:27] <Alakazamz0r> more specifically http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/winscp/winscp382setup.exe
[01:27] <IntuitiveNipple> How can I check the state of a dpkg kerel-image .deb file that, when moved to another PC, reports a 'corrupted filesysyem tarfile' ?
[01:27] <kritzstapf> hi, i added "vga=792" to the boot options, now the splash is no longer centered because its 1280x1024 instead of 1024x768, how to fix that?
[01:27] <kritzstapf> hum 795 it is,..
[01:27] <IntuitiveNipple> kritzstapf: "791" is for 1024x768, "794" for 1280x1024
[01:28] <BrendanM> How would I go about setting my default network interface? It keeps defaulting to my wireless card, even when I have an ethernet cord plugged in.
[01:28] <kritzstapf> IntuitiveNipple, im using 795
[01:28] <mpathy> Hi there.. How can I set up dhcp but the IP static in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:28] <IntuitiveNipple> kritzstapf: I was doing what last night for one of my PCs - I eventually got it by setting the boot to "vga=791" and /etc/usplash.conf contents to 1024 and 768
[01:30] <kritzstapf> IntuitiveNipple, ah, that file is what im searching for :)
[01:30] <kritzstapf> thanks
[01:30] <IntuitiveNipple> How can I check the state of a dpkg kernel-image .deb file that, when moved to another PC, reports a 'corrupted filesysyem tarfile' ?
[01:31] <tibbe> if I dual boot between Ubuntu and XP should XP's partition be made bootable in fdisk?
[01:32] <frogzoo> tibbe: yep
[01:32] <BrendanM> Yes, the XP partition should be bootable, and primary, I think Windows gets pissy unless it's on the primary partition
[01:32] <BrendanM> Does anyone know how would I go about setting my default network interface? It keeps defaulting to my wireless card, even when I have an ethernet cord plugged in.
[01:33] <jin> hi, how to I enable simplified chinese on Linux
[01:33] <jin> I can't read those characters
[01:33] <jin> what zipping tool should I use to get the smallest filesize possible?
[01:33] <Ignite> jin on Ubuntu, System -> Administration -> Language Support
[01:34] <mirak> hi
[01:34] <digiboost> hi
[01:34] <Ignite> jin, Applications -> Archive Manager, if you have 7zip support installed use that, otherwise tar.bz2.
[01:34] <Ignite> :)
[01:34] <mirak> I run firestarter and dhcp, this computer is a router
[01:34] <mirak> but the other computer I have seems to lose the connectivity
[01:34] <mirak> I can't ssh to it
[01:34] <mirak> it's a screenless box, so it's a problem
[01:35] <jin> Ignite, I'm trying to compress mp3 files
[01:35] <criticaL> Is there any GUI for Apache2? Web-based or not, doesn't matter. Not Webmin!
[01:35] <frogzoo> BrendanM: if you're running dhcp on both, then maybe they're both setting the default router
[01:35] <Ignite> jin, mp3 audio is already heavily compressed, you won't have much luck compressing them anymore no matter what program or format you use.
[01:35] <jin> and it seems using .zip get a smaller size instead of bz2
[01:36] <Ignite> jin, install the p7zip package, I personally find that to be the best available at the minute.
[01:36] <vleon> WTF its the third time!!! fuck i tried to reinstall ubuntu on my old p3 comp to make a bigger swap partition and install only the needed apps for the system, i use alternate install cd, and it fucking bringes me an error: instalation step failed... bla bal... the failed step is: select and install software
[01:36] <PriceChild> !language | vleon
[01:36] <ubotu> vleon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:36] <ubotwo`> vleon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:36] <hjmills> !language | vleon
[01:36] <vleon> yeah sorry :\
[01:37] <vleon> that error pissed me off wont use such language again promise..
[01:37] <frogzoo> vleon: one thing that makes the install crap out is running out of disk
[01:37] <hjmills> vleon, what more info can you give us on the errors
[01:37] <hjmills> !language | frogzoo
[01:37] <ubotu> frogzoo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <ubotwo`> frogzoo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <frogzoo> hjmills: crap is perfectly proper english word - check your dictionary
[01:38] <vleon> ummm what information can i give
[01:38] <hjmills> frogzoo, often regarded as a swear word though and as they say - beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[01:38] <Ignite> That it may be, but it's also vulgar.
[01:38] <vleon> well maybe the hard drive failed after i tryed to partition it unsuccesfully
[01:38] <vleon> but ubuntu loaded then
[01:39] <frogzoo> hjmills: crap out is not vulgar, this is the kind of thing that gets tested in courts, if you see a vulgar interpretation, it's because you're looking for it
[01:39] <Vuen> hey #ubuntu, how do i check my ssh logs?
[01:39] <leobloo1> how can I kill the synaptic? it's stuck
[01:39] <vleon> also there is wireless card that was added
[01:39] <Ignite> Vuen, /var/log will be a starting point. :)
[01:39] <mbutUbuntu> holl
[01:39] <mbutUbuntu> domanda
[01:39] <mbutUbuntu> quando
[01:39] <vleon> but i chose not to configure it
[01:39] <Vuen> Ignite: nothing there about ssh
[01:39] <Alakazamz0r> [root@vuplas12 king] # uptime
[01:39] <guest_> 222
[01:40] <Alakazamz0r>  07:02:55 up 476 days, 12:38,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
[01:40] <mbutUbuntu> compilo un programma
[01:40] <guest_> ,fsiogjiogjerogj
[01:40] <Alakazamz0r> who owns
[01:40] <Alakazamz0r> i OWN!
[01:40] <vleon> maybe its because i used a 2.5 gb swap
[01:40] <mbutUbuntu> ottengo un eseguibile, no???
[01:40] <vleon> please help
[01:40] <hjmills> frogzoo, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crap - check def 8
[01:40] <guest_> 
[01:40] <mbutUbuntu> sorry
[01:40] <mbutUbuntu> I joined the wrong channel
[01:40] <leobloo1> mbut vai nell'aiuto italiano
[01:40] <guest_> 03090309666
[01:40] <hjmills> Alakazamz0r, have you joined the uptime project?
[01:40] <mbutUbuntu> posso chiedere anche qua
[01:40] <guest_> 0809449
[01:40] <storeyzy_bio> which is larger in size, KDE or GNOME?
[01:40] <mbutUbuntu> so when I compile a program
[01:40] <hjmills> !es | mbutUbuntu,
[01:40] <leobloo1> s ma in inglese =o)
[01:40] <ubotu> mbutUbuntu,: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:40] <ubotwo`> mbutUbuntu,: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:41] <Alakazamz0r> hjmills, not w/this machine
[01:41] <mbutUbuntu> I obtain a bin file
[01:41] <mbutUbuntu> or not??
[01:41] <frogzoo> hjmills: my point is that if you see a vulgar interpretation, that's not a problem with the choice of words, but with your reading of them - ie, it's your problem, not mine
[01:41] <mc44> hjmills: it not es :)
[01:41] <Alakazamz0r> hjmills, http://en.uptime-project.net/ ?
[01:42] <mbutUbuntu> this bin file
[01:42] <Ignite> frogzoo, the overall point is, some people find it offensive, especially youngsters, and this is a family-neutral channel, so it's not appreciated, you arguing it is pointless.
[01:42] <mbutUbuntu> can I use this bin file
[01:42] <leobloo1> will I have some conflicts problems if I have bittorrent and azureus installed at the same time?
[01:42] <mbutUbuntu> on other computers?'?
[01:42] <mc44> leobloo1: no
[01:42] <criticaL> Is there any GUI for Apache2? Web-based or not, doesn't matter. Anything but Webmin!
[01:42] <mbutUbuntu> or I must compile it
[01:42] <hjmills> frogzoo, but to keep this channel family friendly you should be using words with no possibility of a vulgar interpretation - its not as if there are no other alternative words as the english language is certainly diverse enough. We should probably end this discussion as it is off topic unless you want to continue it in a private message
[01:42] <mbutUbuntu> on every linux-box??
[01:42] <leobloo1> uhm ok, do i need to reboot after installing azureus? It deson't say anything but i dunno realy
[01:42] <hjmills> criticaL, gedit and the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file?
[01:43] <mc44> leobloo1: no
[01:43] <frogzoo> hjmills: no, you're just acting like a nazi
[01:43] <Vuen> leobloo1: you *never* have to reboot
[01:43] <leobloo1> thanks mc44
[01:43] <IdleOne> leobloo1: if it doesnt say then you dont
[01:43] <hjmills> Alakazamz0r, thats the one i know
[01:43] <mc44> frogzoo: please dont make personal attacks
[01:43] <Vuen> leobloo1: the only time you may want to reboot is when you install a new kernel
[01:43] <Alakazamz0r> cool hjmills
[01:43] <Ignite> mbutUbuntu, open a terminal, change to the directory where the .bin file is located, make it executable with chmod, then run ./<filename.bin>
[01:43] <Ignite> :)
[01:43] <erpo> How can I convert DVD video to iPod-compatible (MPEG-4 video/AAC audio in a MOV container) video?
[01:43] <leobloo1> well i ve had troubles yesterday, nothing worked so I thought it was coz of the fact tha ti isntalled stuff without rebooting
[01:43] <hjmills> frogzoo, now that is insulting and extremist
[01:43] <leobloo1> erpo i think vlc can do that
[01:43] <frogzoo> mc44: hjmills started it by accusing me of vulgar language
[01:44] <leobloo1> thanks vuen
[01:44] <criticaL> hjmills: I've just started using Apache2 and I don't know exactly how to configure it yet, so I want a GUI for it. ;)
[01:44] <karhulitos> Hello people, could anyone give USB help on Ubuntu 6.10?
[01:44] <jrib> !ipod | erpo
[01:44] <ubotu> erpo: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[01:44] <erpo> jrib: Rockbox is not compatible with my iPod, and I already know how to sync tracks using gtkpod.
[01:45] <jrib> erpo: read the ipod link
[01:45] <karhulitos> I seem to have USB1 speeds even if I have USB2 hardware present
[01:45] <hjmills> criticaL, I dont know of any specific gui but there is a guide for configuring it at http://help.ubuntu.com - i recommend learning to edit the config file as that will always work rather than relying on a program that may not always be available
[01:46] <paule>  #ubuntu-de
[01:46] <leobloo1> will an external HD in ntfs  have problems in transfetr data via USB1 to ubuntu edgy? I tired twice yesterday but it said it couldn't do that, i thought i was doing something wrong coz I found nothin bout it on google
[01:46] <Hoag> Hey. Is is possible to configure the terminal server client to allow you to copy/paste text back and forth?
[01:47] <leobloo1> *tried
[01:47] <karhulitos> I can stop ohci_hcd and start ehci_hcd after which speed is high. But that requires manual typing (and remembering cmds)
[01:47] <karhulitos> and then USB1 systems stop working..
[01:48] <oFF-beAt> leobloo1, i have a usb hdd .. ntfs .. i got no problem
[01:48] <karhulitos> forums and FAQs didn't help a much
[01:48] <arty_name> Hello. I want to insert a predefined line of text with a hotkey. Is there any app to do this?
[01:49] <leobloo1> uhm i wantedto  transfer some big iso files from my hd to an external one to mount them but after 2 minutes i had an error message =o/ i thoguht it could only be coz of the format
[01:50] <karhulitos> anyone?
[01:50] <IdleOne> !fuse leobloo1
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuse leobloo1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <IdleOne> !fuse | leobloo1
[01:50] <ubotu> leobloo1: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:50] <leobloo1> than's idle
[01:50] <leobloo1> *thanks
[01:51] <Hoag> Anyone?
[01:51] <IdleOne> !anyone
[01:51] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:52] <karhulitos> hmm.. sorry. I guess I did that but no responses
[01:52] <piao> how to change Rhythmbox's  downloader.  i want to use axel to download podcasts
[01:52] <Hoag> >_> Is there a way to copy and paste text between the Terminal Server Client and the rest of my windows?
[01:53] <leobloo1> karhulitos could you please repeat the question, i might be interested if it's an issue with usb
[01:53] <IdleOne> Hoag: highlight and right click , select copy , then paste it where you like
[01:53] <karhulitos> how to get ubuntu Edgy to recognize USB2 devices automatically while leaving USB1 support in place?
[01:53] <Hoag> IdleOne: It doesn't paste outside of the terminal server client.
[01:54] <leobloo1> you have both USB1 and usb2 on th same pc?
[01:54] <karhulitos> currently all USB devices run here at 12mb/sec speed
[01:54] <leobloo1> which is usb1 i think
[01:54] <kritzstapf> IntuitiveNipple, changed usplash.conf to 1280x1024, but the splash is still not centered :/
[01:54] <mirak> there is like a bug in NetworkManager, because when it fails to found a network, for exemple when I stop my router it takes an arbitrary ip. Then it can't ask dhcp to the router it seems, because the link is not really down, or it's not on the same network. I then need to unplug the network cable to have a reaction from networkmanager
[01:55] <karhulitos> I have WD MyBook 250GB USB2 hard disk
[01:56] <karhulitos> and that Ext HD only runs at 12Mb/sec on Edgy unless I do "sudo rmmod ohci_hcd, sudo rmmod ehci_hcd, sudo modprobe ehci_hcd"
[01:56] <karhulitos> but then all USB1 devices stop working
[01:56] <leobloo1> but  the device is fully recognized by ubuntu or not?
[01:57] <Alakazamz0r> hjmills, http://en.uptime-project.net/page.php?page=toplist&content=profile&uid=114379
[01:57] <karhulitos> fully recognized, yes
[01:57] <Alakazamz0r> :D
[01:57] <karhulitos> only speed problem
[01:57] <Alakazamz0r>  Toplist: 90/9809
[01:57] <Alakazamz0r> sweet thanks!
[01:57] <Drel3> can someone help me
[01:58] <jrib> !helpme | Drel3
[01:58] <ubotu> Drel3: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:58] <Drel3> ok !how can i find my mac address
[01:58] <leobloo1> uhm, I'm a noob but I remeber i had read some similar issue in th ubuntu forum
[01:58] <karhulitos> so question is that how can I set Edgy to detect USB2's correctly
[01:58] <jrib> Drel3: ifconfig
[01:58] <karhulitos> forum has plenty of q's but no answers
[01:59] <karhulitos> some say USB2 high speed stopped working on Edgy
[01:59] <karhulitos> and was OK on dapper
[01:59] <Drel3> thx
[02:00] <Ignite> Drel3, System -> Administration -> Device Manager, look in the list for your network device, click on it, then click on the Advanced tab, it will be listed there.
[02:00] <leobloo1> I found a post with a guy having USB2 stop working after some time, he had to unplug and plug in again to make it work
[02:00] <karhulitos> not same, mine is all USB2 devices are detected as USB1 by default by Edgy
[02:01] <piao> how to change Rhythmbox's  downloader.  i want to use axel to download podcasts
[02:01] <Drel3> ignite: good information
[02:01] <leobloo1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/68839
[02:01] <leobloo1> bugs pposting, it seems your problem, I can't find any page with a solution yet =o/
[02:02] <cidx> hey i need hel to get sound in linux ubuntu.
[02:02] <IdleOne> !sound
[02:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:02] <karhulitos> leobloo, cheers. need to test now exactly what was doen on that bug
[02:03] <Mikelo> how do i restart the GDM?
[02:03] <Mikelo> !gdm
[02:03] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1687 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[02:03] <karhulitos> hmm.. not quite the same but may depend on same, you never know
[02:04] <karhulitos> good (or very very bad) to know that there is a bug!
[02:04] <leobloo1> have you tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294938&highlight=running+at+top+speed%3B+connect+to+a+high+speed+hub
[02:05] <Alzi2> I can't find "System->Administration->Disks" on my Dutch system. Where is it?
[02:05] <kritzstapf> using gentoo i had my consoles (tty) with a nice background image, how to do this with ubuntu?
[02:05] <jrib> Alzi2: what version of ubuntu?
[02:06] <karhulitos> leobloo, exactly that one. It works but my concern is that 1: how to get that automatic 2: how to preserve USB1 support
[02:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Alzi2: It doesn't exist on Edgy 6.10 despite what the documentation claims !
[02:07] <Alzi2> IntuitiveNipple, Weird.
[02:07] <leobloo1> =o/ no idea I'm really sorry
[02:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Yeah, it caught me out to begin with
[02:07] <karhulitos> OK, but cheers. I guess I file a bug report if I find my way around there
[02:08] <leobloo1> for automatic, can't it be done via BIOS settings?
[02:09] <karhulitos> leobloo, down to the point; in one thread one said that he could override this problem by setting ACPI aware OS to false
[02:09] <karhulitos> unfort, guess do i have such setting in BIOS
[02:09] <leobloo1> i suppose not =o/
[02:10] <karhulitos> right. Perhaps I bought wrong laptop this time
[02:10] <karhulitos> but thank you very much!
[02:10] <Morn\> Disk Space:  	 1.00 MB of 5000.00 MB (0.02%)
[02:10] <Morn\> Bandwidth: 	3.10 MB of 250000.00 MB (0%)
[02:10] <Morn\> oops, lol wrong paste
[02:10] <idea> hello
[02:10] <Morn\> http://www.kubuntu.org/images/ubuntu.png <- am I allowed to have that picture and link it to ubuntu.com on my homepage? Or is that some kind of copyright infringement
[02:10] <ctkroeker> I can't install avidemux even though I have all the needed repo's enabled. Heres my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2272/plain/
[02:10] <leobloo1> have you tried inquiring google for hardware issues with your laptop? I mean, does it have this issue if you use another OS or is it only happening in edgy ?
[02:11] <leobloo1> sorry I can't help you with your problem kar
[02:12] <idea> i appear to have some borked schemas.. "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly." .. is there some ninja moves i can do to fix.. no icons in menu, that error displays after a try to look at themes..
[02:13] <idea> I have the gnome theme, metacity..
[02:13] <idea> this happened after i did a dist-upgrade.
[02:14] <Ignite> Morn\, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[02:14] <karhulitos> about USB, this is mine https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/66115
[02:15] <karhulitos> so I'll sit and wait
[02:15] <PriceChild> !test
[02:15] <ubotu> Failed.
[02:15] <Morn\> Well awesome Ignite, ty
[02:16] <Ignite> yw
[02:16] <Morn\> bloody paypal
[02:16] <idea> anyone have a clue what i might be able to do to fix? forums, google.. very thin on details.
[02:17] <leobloo1> karluhitos theys say dapper worked fine and a kernel update should fix it so you'll luckily have it fixed in some, let's see, months :D with the new release =o)
[02:17] <sputnik2012> hi all.  I need a hand configuring firestarter. What policy do I ned to implement on incomingconnections to allow web surfing. At the moment I need to enter the url I wish to view to connect to a webpage.  Have a feeling I need oto play with the kernel netfilter for this?  thanks.
[02:18] <karhulitos> jep, was about to ask ow to check precise kernel version?
[02:18] <sputnik2012> karhulitos, uname -r
[02:18] <ctkroeker> I can't install avidemux even though I have all the needed repo's enabled. Heres my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2272/plain/
[02:18] <karhulitos> uname -r says: 2.6.17-10-generic
[02:19] <karhulitos> bug report says seems to be fixed in2.6.17-10-33
[02:19] <karhulitos> what "generic"?
[02:19] <leobloo1> uhm  but can you already upgrade it?
[02:19] <XVampireX> It doesn't matter, it's for many archs
[02:19] <karhulitos> aha..
[02:19] <IdleOne> generic is the version the goverment pays for because your insurrance wont :)
[02:19] <Mikelo> lsk
[02:19] <leobloo1> ahah
[02:19] <jrib> ctkroeker: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install avidemux
[02:19] <karhulitos> t?
[02:20] <ctkroeker> tried that many times
[02:20] <karhulitos> how can I get 2.6.17-10.33 here?
[02:20] <XVampireX> What does it say?
[02:20] <Drel3> does nvidia drivers for ubuntu need to be uninstalled before I install a new one
[02:20] <jrib> ctkroeker: pastebin error
[02:20] <idea> "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly."
[02:20] <XVampireX> ctkroeker, what jrib said
[02:20] <kritzstapf> usplash cant create background images for ttys like fbsplash can, does it?
[02:20] <idea> need help restoring theme support. please :)
[02:21] <ctkroeker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2274/plain/
[02:21] <XVampireX> ctkroeker, This is not the error
[02:21] <ctkroeker> what do you mean
[02:21] <XVampireX> When you try to install avidemux
[02:22] <XVampireX> what do you get
[02:22] <XVampireX> what's the error
[02:22] <ctkroeker> avidemux: Depends: liba52-0.7.4 but it is not installable and  Depends: libmozjs0d (>= 1.8.0.5) but it is not installable
[02:22] <ctkroeker> E: Broken packages
[02:23] <oFF-beAt> Ubuntu-Women IRC Meeting <------ i wanna b there :D
[02:23] <Drel3> does nvidia drivers for ubuntu need to be uninstalled before installing a new one
[02:23] <jrib> ctkroeker: apt-cache policy liba52-0.7.4 libmozjs0d
[02:23] <cidx> ubotu: Thats is dosent work :S
[02:23] <idea> if someone might even acknowledge my issue, i'd be happier ;)
[02:23] <XVampireX> jrib, what does policy do? :P
[02:23] <jrib> XVampireX: gives you info, like available package versions with that name
[02:24] <adaptr> XVampireX: it shows you the contents of the policy file ?
[02:24] <XVampireX> ah, okey
[02:24] <leobloo1> karlithus I foudn a forum explaining how to upgrade a kernel maybe it works  if yo ujust choose the one you need, if it's already out, but it says you might have troubles with other drivers
[02:24] <ctkroeker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2276/plain/
[02:24] <leobloo1> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=206992
[02:24] <adaptr> XVampireX: and it's more commonly used to indicate the license status of a package
[02:24] <penguinCAFE111> $B$F$9$H(B
[02:24] <adaptr> BICBW
[02:24] <adaptr> penguinCAFE111: thanks ?
[02:25] <anton> Ive just installed Xubuntu, and now I want to install the Java Runtime Enviroment.. Can someone give me please some advise how I can do that easily
[02:25] <idea> anto: use Automatix
[02:25] <XVampireX> !java
[02:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:25] <idea> anton: use Automatix.
[02:25] <PriceChild> !automatix | idea anton
[02:25] <ubotu> idea anton: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:25] <karhulitos> leobloo, thanks again. But need to say huh! I consider myself as end user
[02:25] <XVampireX> Automatix is neat but it failed at installing swiftfox for me :P
[02:26] <idea> XVampire: seems theres an issue with the ms ttfs.. otherwise, automatix worked great.
[02:26] <karhulitos> perhaps I take the long term roadmap and wait for kernel upgrades automatically
[02:26] <leobloo1> eheh I'm a complete noob :D I've been using linux OS only for the last 2 months =o)
[02:26] <Br0eTcHeN`> #lepd
[02:26] <Br0eTcHeN`> hups
[02:26] <idea> anyone else seeing errors trying to download andale.exe from sourceforge?
[02:26] <karhulitos> you're in good speed though
[02:26] <xxtlosxx> I have a question regarding an ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 and Ubuntu 6.10, i've been having a bunch of problems since last night..
[02:27] <anton> ok, but is JVA not in Synaptics?
[02:27] <anton> JAVA* i mean
[02:27] <leobloo1> =o)
[02:27] <XVampireX> idea, Huh?
[02:27] <jrib> ctkroeker: hmm that doesn't make sense since they are in edgy universe, can you 'sudo apt-get update' and run that command again?  Is the result the same?
[02:27] <idea> anton: do you know automatix?
[02:27] <adaptr> anton: add repositories
[02:27] <xxtlosxx> when i first install ubuntu just a clean install it works, with the ati driver, but with the fglrx driver, it's a no go, it won't go past the login prompt, what happens is i login, i hear the login noise, but the machine goes no where... anyone have any ideas?
[02:27] <anton> no, i do not know auutomatics
[02:27] <idea> anton: might be a good time to get jiggy with it.
[02:27] <gershon> hello all, how would a noob go about adding softbeep to the startup scripts?
[02:27] <leobloo1> I've read you should install automatix, it gives you more troubles than helpings
[02:27] <ctkroeker> yeah I've tried many times
[02:28] <anton> so, that doesnt like it is a good option
[02:28] <PriceChild> !automatix | idea
[02:28] <ubotu> idea: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:28] <jrib> ctkroeker: can you pastebin output of 'sudo apt-get update'?
[02:28] <PriceChild> idea, please listen :)
[02:28] <idea> automatix worked fine for me. except for the msttfs.
[02:28] <PriceChild> !worksforme | idea
[02:28] <ubotu> idea: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:28] <ctkroeker> hold on, my connection is slow
[02:28] <vleon> is it possible that my linux instalation (from an alterantive install) fails because the swap partion is too big?
[02:28] <leobloo1> but then you'll have big torubles if you triy a dist-upgrade in a couple of months
[02:29] <PriceChild> vleon, not afaik
[02:29] <anton> which packets in Synaptics are exactly the JRE and only the JRE?
[02:29] <leobloo1> vleon I dunno a lot bout swap but I think that if you have enough ram (let's say 1ghz) you won't need the swap at all
[02:29] <jrib> anton: sun-java5-jre ?
[02:29] <PriceChild> leobloo1, always best to have some swap
[02:30] <linker2u> any body there
[02:30] <leobloo1> yep but with thah amount of ram will the os ever need it?
[02:30] <vleon> i do need the swap
[02:30] <vleon> PriceChild what?
[02:30] <linker2u> jirb wht is that sun-java-jre
[02:30] <PriceChild> vleon, it shouldn't have cancelled it as far as i know
[02:30] <leobloo1> ok, then try with a 1/8 of the partition =o) that's a trick I had read on an Italian forum
[02:30] <PriceChild> !java | linker2u
[02:30] <ubotu> linker2u: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:30] <jrib> linker2u: it's the Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment
[02:31] <linker2u> i also don't have java runtime env. on my ubuntu
[02:31] <PriceChild> linker2u, read that factoid for more info :)
[02:31] <bulmer> vleon: some apps hogs a bunch of memory, and would not release it, so if you have other program that requires spaces and no whereelse to swap it to, ummm
[02:31] <kritzstapf> how to increase the fontsize used on the vga-ttys?
[02:31] <linker2u> thanx princechild
[02:31] <wolfwalker>  Ladies and gentlemen, I come here not for tech support, but to bring glad tidings. MadTracker, a music composing program I love, does NOT run in Winblows Vista.
[02:32] <wolfwalker>  But mine
[02:32] <wolfwalker>  In Wine
[02:32] <wolfwalker>  Runs fine
[02:32] <wolfwalker>  :D
[02:32] <linker2u> jirib i face ntldr problem many time on ubuntu whts that dude,how i overcome of that
[02:32] <vleon> look people ive installed it earlier and it ran slow
[02:32] <micktm> Hi!
[02:32] <vleon> no it is possible ive messed up the harddrive
[02:33] <micktm> which is the DocumentRoot directory for testing php scripts with ubuntu?
[02:33] <hjmills> wolfwalker, they are sure to update it to work in vista at some point but until then - enjoy a mondern os and your fave music composing program on the same pc
[02:33] <vleon> but its also possible that its because ive tryed to use 2.5 GB swap
[02:33] <PriceChild> !offtopic | wolfwalker
[02:33] <ubotu> wolfwalker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:33] <bulmer> vleon: swapping alone can cause your system to go slower
 no it cant fail because you have a huge swap partition.
[02:33] <ctkroeker> I'll try commenting everything in sources.list, then update then uncomment and re-update
[02:33] <Alakazamz0r> if you have enough high quality ram you dont even need swap
[02:33] <karhulitos> hei. one stupid q more
[02:34] <wolfwalker> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:34] <bulmer> are you sure about that Alakazamz0r ?
[02:34] <vleon> ok then could it be that my hardrive is broken and yet the install finds it, and created partitions in it?
[02:34] <Alakazamz0r> fairly sure yes
[02:34] <karhulitos> found "Complete Generic Linux kernel
[02:34] <karhulitos> This package will always depend on the latest complete generic Linux kernel
[02:34] <karhulitos> available." in Synaptic. Will I kill myself by clicking that?
[02:34] <Alakazamz0r> you can unmount and reformat swap in multiuser mode
[02:34] <criticaL> What should I do if I want to be able to connect to my MySQL-server from an remote computer? As it is now, I can only use PHPMyAdmin.
[02:34] <vleon> ok i dont understand anything :\
[02:35] <vleon> im going to try and install with regular install
[02:35] <Alakazamz0r> vleon just put everything on one partition
[02:35] <Alakazamz0r> when it asks you in the install
[02:35] <bulmer> Alakazamz0r: you have not had programs that hogs the ram, wouldnt let it go, and you are left with few for the remaining and they also require as much memory, so you have nowhere to swap, woulnt your system slowdown?
[02:36] <leobloo1> karlithus I dunno much bout this but I suppose that if it's not been set in the automatic updates it's anunstable kernel so you might have far more troubles than what it solves
[02:36] <Alakazamz0r> not if you have a huge amount of ram.
[02:36] <cavediver> Hi there. Is there another frontend to Sane other than xsane ? Didn't like that software so much.
[02:36] <Alakazamz0r> but i see your point
[02:36] <karhulitos> ok, thanks for opinion
[02:36] <storeyzy_bio> is there a statistic/log file of swap usage?
[02:37] <bulmer> sometimes look at result of ipcs and see bunch of memory not let go by programs
[02:37] <leobloo1> karlithus anyway if you  think its orth trying and you have backup copies of impoartant stuff... you might be lucky =o)
[02:37] <leobloo1> *worth
[02:37] <baba-andrea> I guys, I have ubuntu 6.10 on amd 64 and often the system crash, but in the log files there aren't any problem how can I debug my crash
[02:37] <idea> anyways, back to my problem.. if anyone can help i'd be mighty obliged.
[02:38] <idea> "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly."
[02:38] <idea> I have metacity, gnome-theme etc.
[02:38] <goonies> gnome feels hella slow now in 6.10
[02:38] <idea> cannot manage themes, no icons in main menus,,
[02:38] <nfp|kelnoky> hey guys. ok, thats how my fstab looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2278/ - now, that thing mounts sda1 as swap right? but i definitely know that sdc is where all my linux stuff is, including the swap on sdc5
[02:38] <nfp|kelnoky> now what? :D
[02:38] <ctkroeker> baba-andrea: do you have 64bit ubuntu? or the standard i386?
[02:39] <nfp|kelnoky> and is it safe to delete sda completely, cause thats what i wanted to do now...
[02:39] <baba-andrea> 64bit ubuntu 6.10, and when crash the screen is all white or colored and all is blocked
[02:40] <ctkroeker> baba-andrea: when does this happen
[02:40] <idea> love it. recommend automatix, folks tell me it's shite. ask for help about fuxored schemas. nobody wants to know :(
[02:40] <criticaL> What should I do if I want to be able to connect to my MySQL-server from an remote computer? As it is now, I can only use PHPMyAdmin.
[02:40] <vleon> ok in a regular ubuntu live cd install
[02:40] <vleon> is it possible to mount the swap?
[02:41] <idea> critical: there are gui tools for that.. have a look as the mysql site..
[02:41] <jrib> idea: does your error occur on a new user account?
[02:41] <hiddnx> hi ppl
[02:41] <oFF-beAt> how do i check the size of my swap partition??
[02:42] <idea> jrib: havn't tried a new user account.
[02:42] <baba-andrea> ctkroeker:  always, sometime when use firefox, other time when use evolution or nvu are not the same case
[02:42] <criticaL> idea: I know, im using MySQL-Front.. but the problem is that I can't connect at all!
[02:42] <jrib> idea: can you try?
[02:42] <idea> jrib: ok. quickest method?
[02:42] <storeyzy_bio> gparted
[02:42] <leobloo1> vleon if you dunno how much swap to  have why don't you let the system choose? I think livecd does it quite well ,no?
[02:42] <jrib> idea: sudo adduser testuser  , log out, log in as testuser
[02:43] <leobloo1> offbeat install gparted, you'll have all the partitions there
[02:43] <idea> jrib: ok. thanks. will do.
[02:43] <vleon> leobloo1 i know how much swap, A LOT :)
[02:43] <vleon> i have 127 ram...
[02:43] <storeyzy_bio> gparted comes with ubuntu 6.10
[02:44] <Schbler> hi everybody
[02:44] <ctkroeker> could be memory related, or maybe your cpu is getting hot, try installing http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29
[02:44] <adaptr> oFF-beAt: swapon -s
[02:44] <leobloo1> well, you want Ubuntu on  127 ram? it's a suicide =o) I have an old PII with 127 ram too... and it barely works with xubuntu =o)
[02:44] <ctkroeker> baba-adrea:
[02:44] <Schbler> sorry, I guees I'm nor in the right room : I'm a poor frensh speaking guy
[02:45] <baba-andrea> ctkroeker:  ok I try, but the pc is new
[02:45] <ctkroeker> baba-andrea: could be memory related, or maybe your cpu is getting hot, try installing http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29
[02:45] <adaptr> oFF-beAt: or free -m, might be simpler for you
[02:45] <Drel3> does nvidia drivers for ubuntu need to be uninstalled before I install a new one
[02:45] <ctkroeker> yeah, but could be your memor
[02:45] <ctkroeker> is bad
[02:45] <adaptr> Drel3: that depends
[02:45] <wedgeV> i installed kubuntu but want to use GNOME now, its working fine except that GNOME seems to use the KDE button styles etc. how do i fix that?
[02:45] <Schbler> have a good day and a lot of fun with your PC !!
[02:45] <Drel3> on what
[02:46] <PatBeirne> !info libdvdcss
[02:46] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss does not exist in any distro I know
[02:46] <erUSUL> !dvd | PatBeirne
[02:46] <ubotu> PatBeirne: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:46] <oFF-beAt> adaptr, the size that in printed is in Bytes?? or kBs?
[02:46] <adaptr> oFF-beAt: where ?
[02:46] <adaptr> oFF-beAt: just run free -m, that is in MB
[02:47] <PatBeirne> thank you erUSUL
[02:47] <IdleOne> how do Isee what users are logged on ?
[02:47] <Drel3> adaptr: depends on what
[02:48] <JosefK> IdleOne: who -u
[02:48] <adaptr> Drel3: whether the version you want to upgrade to is from the same source, i.e. both from ubuntu, or both from nvidia
[02:48] <oFF-beAt> thanx adaptr
[02:48] <idea> ok. logged out and in with a new account.. same issue with icons and themes..
[02:48] <IdleOne> JosefK: ty
[02:48] <erUSUL> PatBeirne: no problem
[02:48] <Drel3> nvidia envy
[02:49] <adaptr> Drel3: huh ?
[02:49] <IdleOne> JosefK: what if I have multiple users of same name logged on . which one is the actual users I am on?
[02:50] <wedgeV> i installed kubuntu but want to use GNOME now, its working fine except that GNOME seems to use the KDE button styles etc. how do i fix that?
[02:50] <JosefK> IdleOne: you could look at the second column, :0 is display 0, it could be tty* vtty* etc.
[02:50] <hiddnx_> i need help with wine on 64
[02:50] <idea> where did my helper go? <scratches head>
[02:50] <JosefK> IdleOne: pts/* for ssh
[02:50] <JosefK> IdleOne: etc. it's the second column you want
[02:51] <IdleOne> JosefK:  last column is PID right so I can kill that PID?
[02:51] <hiddnx_> any one can?
[02:51] <kritzstapf> when i start gnome-terminal and echo $TERM, its always "xterm", but it should be "xterm-color", how to fix that?
[02:51] <Database> Greetings. May I ask a graphics-related question?
[02:51] <JosefK> IdleOne: I just got some very unexpected results trying that
[02:51] <IdleOne> JosefK: lmao me too
[02:52] <IdleOne> JosefK: what is pts/1?
[02:53] <JosefK> IdleOne: cd /dev/pts
[02:53] <hiddnx_> any one here succed to install wine on ubuntu 64?
[02:53] <JosefK> IdleOne: a virtual device
[02:53] <IdleOne> ok I see
[02:53] <IdleOne> ty
[02:53] <JosefK> np's
[02:53] <idea> now, who was i talking to about borked schemas?
[02:54] <nfp|kelnoky> hey guys. ok, thats how my fstab looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2278/ - now, that thing mounts sda1 as swap right? but i definitely know that sdc is where all my linux stuff is, including the swap on sdc5
[02:54] <idea> because i've logged into a testuser account and the same issue.
[02:54] <nfp|kelnoky> so whats up with that sda? :D
[02:54] <egyn> Hi, i've started testing BackupPC which allows users to handle full/incremental backups but experience that the software is not always running. I am quite new with linux so I am not sure what is causing this behaviour.
[02:54] <hiddnx_> ok may i ask if anyone uses some emu for windows apps?
[02:54] <roxlu> When I create images using "dar", does it 'split' files as well?
[02:55] <egyn> I get an error saying "Error: Unable to connect to BackupPC server" when I try to connect via the web-interface
[02:55] <leobloo1> hiddnx have you checked the wiki?
[02:55] <xxtlosxx> wow, so ATI's 8.32 drivers rock my laptop, when i roll back to 8.28... works perfectly
[02:55] <xxtlosxx> what are they doing over there?!@?!
[02:56] <leobloo1> hddinx take a look here, it's  for dapper though http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[02:56] <xxtlosxx> has anyone else heard of this happening?!
[02:56] <emss> the texmaker package is broken
[02:56] <BULLE> nfp|kelnoky: your fstab says it mounts sda1 as rootfs
[02:56] <IdleOne> hiddnx_: there is Wine, Cedega, Dosbox ( old but works for old programs ) and many others probably
[02:56] <hiddnx_> i donno what is good for ubuntu - wine is not compatible with 64
[02:56] <kritzstapf> when i start gnome-terminal and echo $TERM, its always "xterm", but it should be "xterm-color", how to fix that?
[02:56] <Mikelo> I have a K8M890 based motherboard, has anyone here managed to use the onboard video card?
 the google
[02:57] <jelkimantis> I'm having difficulty getting a perl app to run; it wants proc/Simple.pm,  There are some perl Simple.pms, but I can't google an answer.
[02:57] <nfp|kelnoky> BULLE: yeah, but look at that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2280/
[02:57] <IdleOne> hiddnx_: lot of ppl use vmware
[02:57] <leobloo1> you found NOTHING bout it in google? not possible
[02:57] <hiddnx_> leobloo1 - ill check? thanx
[02:57] <arty_name> Hello. I want to insert a predefined line of text with a hotkey. Is there any app to do this?
[02:58] <hiddnx_> leobloo1 - ill check! thanx
[02:58] <nfp|kelnoky> and if I look up the properties of my linux partitions in thunar it says sdc as well
[02:58] <adaptr> !xbindkeys | arty_name
[02:58] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[02:58] <BULLE> nfp|kelnoky: and what does just "mount" say ?
[02:58] <arty_name> thanks, but how do I insert text in X input via shell command?
[02:59] <nfp|kelnoky> BULLE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2281/
[02:59] <jelkimantis> Ok, so I found LOTS about it in Google, but nothing I found to be helpful...
 - thats what i did, i stacked at ./configure  - doesn't work
[02:59] <gh0st> hello, i need to configure firestarter so that azureus works, can anyone help me?
[03:00] <gh0st> ...or iptables
[03:00] <IdleOne> hiddnx_: probably need to sudo aptitude install build-essential
[03:00] <alecjw> gh0st: do you have an NAT router?
[03:00] <adaptr> gh0st: firestarter = iptables
[03:00] <idea> HELP!! lol. I'm looking at etc/gconf/2/path .. appears to be ok.. though it *may* be referencing non-existent files..
[03:00] <nfp|kelnoky> BULLE: any idea? :|
[03:00] <gh0st> adaptr: i know
[03:00] <gh0st> alexjw: no
[03:00] <humboldt> is there a way to still get access to some debuggin messages after the kernel died?
[03:00] <leobloo1> hiddnx what kind of error do you get at that point?
[03:00] <gh0st> alecjw: no
[03:00] <idea> and i still have the same issues with theme management and menu icons :(
[03:00] <nfp|kelnoky> it seems as if ubuntu ignores my fstab^^
[03:00] <hiddnx_> it says smthing about my shell - that isn't modern enouth
[03:01] <BULLE> nfp|kelnoky: not realy no
[03:01] <alecjw> gh0st: i find that bittorent works without modifying iptables...
[03:01] <humboldt> heared there are some keyboard shortcuts called sysrq or so?
[03:01] <BULLE> nfp|kelnoky: its a bit wierd imho
[03:01] <nfp|kelnoky> well thanks anyway
[03:01] <nfp|kelnoky> yeah, thats why i asked :D
[03:01] <gh0st> alecjw: i just have a shared connection
[03:01] <adaptr> alecjw: but it works better if you do
[03:01] <BULLE> nfp|kelnoky: have you added/removed any disks or other ide devices since you did the original install ?
[03:01] <PatBeirne> kritzstapf, it may be related to the /usr/share/vte/termcap directory
[03:01] <alecjw> gh0st: shated connction? doesnt that mean NAT router?
[03:01] <mnoir> kritzstapf: it is taking me some time to trace where that is set but you can re-export it in your .bashrc
[03:01] <hiddnx_> ./configure: line 238: /dev/null: No such file or directory
[03:01] <alecjw> *shared
[03:01] <nfp|kelnoky> BULLE: yes, i did
[03:01] <hiddnx_> This script requires a shell more modern than all the
[03:01] <hiddnx_> shells that I found on your system.
[03:02] <gh0st> adaptr: the problem is, when port testing, and disabling firewall it works, other wise i get a nat error
[03:02] <kritzstapf> mnoir, i thought changing "xterm-color)" to "xterm)" in the .bashrc wouldnt be the nicest solution
[03:02] <BULLE> nfp|kelnoky: mhm, so then that is the cause atleast, exactly what happened, i dunno
[03:02] <nfp|kelnoky> BULLE: i added another harddrive just now - its sdb.
[03:02] <gh0st> alecjw: i think it's just a switch/hub
[03:02] <IdleOne> hiddnx_: what is it you are trying to compile?
[03:02] <adaptr> gh0st: then you need to edit your firewall rules
[03:02] <nfp|kelnoky> BULLE: before that my linux harddrive always was sdb
[03:02] <gh0st> adaptr: ok, but how and were?
[03:02] <mnoir> kritzstapf: nice is relative :)
[03:03] <hiddnx_>  ./configure
[03:03] <leobloo1> hidd have you tried updating the OS?
[03:03] <hiddnx_>  - of wine installation
[03:03] <adaptr> gh0st: I don't know - you say you use firestarter, so start there
[03:03] <alecjw> gh0st: it's proably an NAT router ttoo. i think that you need one if you shate an intnert connection, otherwise it doesnt know what ports to forward nad form where
[03:03] <nfp|kelnoky> BULLE: but well, i really dont need the stuff on sdb and sda, i only wanna be sure if i can delete them
[03:03] <IdleOne> !wine
[03:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:03] <hiddnx_> yep it's updated
[03:03] <hiddnx_> actually is new
[03:04] <gh0st> alecjw: i don't know, but i heard that a provider gives some 5 ips or so, sothat no forwarding is needed
[03:04] <IdleOne> hiddnx_: why not just type in terminal sudo apt-get install wine
[03:04] <idea> google ain't much help :(
[03:04] <gh0st> alecjw. and it does work when disabling firewall, so it has something to do with firestarter/iptables. are you familiar with it?
 - becouse mine is 64_86 ubuntu for amd
[03:05] <alecjw> gh0st: no. sorry
[03:05] <hiddnx_> it doesn't exists in packages
[03:05] <IdleOne> hiddnx_: then you are probably going to have a lot of trouble getting anything to work decent for you
[03:05] <hhhjr> morning, can someone here telll me where I can get info on compiling the 2.19.1 kernal for use with a intel 865 chipset with a sata drive?
[03:06] <hiddnx_> yes i already have :)
[03:06] <hiddnx_> i've to go , thanks for help
[03:08] <Mikelo> i need help with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[03:09] <gh0st> is anyone familiar with firestarter/iptables? i need to configure it for azureus
[03:09] <kritzstapf> hm, is there a way to make beryl load before gnome-panel and other things appear?
[03:09] <IdleOne> Mikelo: what exactly do you need help with
[03:09] <Mikelo> IdleOne: im stuck on the first line
[03:09] <idea> help! help! i'm being held prisoner in an alien factory in 3d!! help! ie. help me fix my borked schemas! please.
[03:09] <Mikelo> IdleOne: "sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-via"
[03:10] <idea> "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly."
[03:10] <IdleOne> Mikelo: whats the error your getting and are you running version 6.10?
[03:10] <idea> tried new user account, same deal.
[03:10] <qingting> Anyone know how i can play RM files in Ubuntu ~ ive looked for some codecs but cant find any  im using 6.06  with easy ubuntu ~~~  Any help ?
[03:11] <idea> qingting: try the multiverse repository. there's a realplayer available.
[03:11] <qingting> RMA by the way
[03:11] <qingting> Oh really?
[03:11] <Mikelo> IdleOne: http://rafb.net/p/FxC8QJ19.html
[03:11] <qingting> Idea ~~  do you know how to get that by using terminal ?
[03:11] <xtknight> hello
[03:11] <Balachmar> How can I change the password I registered at the nickserv?
[03:11] <locomotive> hi guys
[03:12] <xtknight> Balachmar: /msg nickserv set help
[03:12] <locomotive> can I pm anyone for asking something about grub?
[03:12] <qingting> cos my computer is in chinese and HATES multi universe repository ~
[03:12] <idea> qingting: maybe apt-get install realplayer
[03:12] <IdleOne> Mikelo:  looks like you didnt add the beryl repository
[03:12] <xtknight> Balachmar: /msg nickserv help set   actually
[03:12] <xtknight> locomotive: just ask in here
[03:12] <oFF-beAt> i have a problem with videos.. frames so slow
[03:12] <Intelligitimate> A friend of mine is having a problem with the Live CD. I think it is an issue with X and the fact he has two graphics card on his Dell OptiPlex GX110. He has a ATI 3D Rage Pro graphics card and an onboard ntel 82810e dc-133 cgc graphics controller.
[03:12] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: what type of videos?
[03:13] <Intelligitimate> What should I tell him?
[03:13] <criticaL> What should I do if I want to be able to connect to my MySQL-server from an remote computer? When i'm trying to connect with MySQL-Front it says "Unable to connect to 192.168.0.xxx" but PHPMyAdmin works just fine.
[03:13] <oFF-beAt> avi
[03:13] <qingting> THANKS SISTER~  much apriciado ~~~
[03:13] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: what program are you using to play them?
[03:13] <idea> Intellig: tell him to try disabling the onboard gfx card.
[03:13] <Intelligitimate> How does he do that, idea?
[03:13] <oFF-beAt> vlc
[03:13] <idea> intellig: from the bios.
[03:13] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: just divx videos off the net i assume?
[03:14] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, yes
[03:14] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: have you installed proprietary video drivers?
[03:14] <Balachmar> xtknight: I fear that I can't identify because I forgot to set a password when I registered my nick
[03:14] <mnoir> criticaL: phpmyadmin works fine cuz you are actually making the db connection locally.  uids in mysql default to localhost auth you need to make the id able to connect from a remote host
[03:14] <oFF-beAt> yes, i have
[03:14] <Mikelo> IdleOne: ok tnx
[03:14] <Intelligitimate> In the bios, it has the options Primary Video Controller be Auto or Onboard, and Video DAC Snooper off or on.
[03:14] <Intelligitimate> What should they be?
[03:14] <xtknight> Balachmar: there's admins here that can help you, im new to this network myself so im not sure of the help channel
[03:15] <qingting> idea ~  love you sister ~  thanks so much dude ~ now i can watch shitty files HEHEHE
[03:15] <criticaL> mnoir; How?
[03:15] <idea> qingting: pleasure! enjoy :)
[03:15] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: what CPU do you have?  what resolution are the videos?
[03:15] <locomotive> ok, so I want to add windows to grub which is on hda2, I did all of this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu but it doesn't work
[03:15] <qingting> kiss kiss kiss idea
[03:15] <locomotive> I did (hd0,1)
[03:15] <idea> intellig: try auto and leave snooping off.
[03:15] <qingting> BYE dudeettttees
[03:16] <idea> intellig: if auto doesn't work, then try onboard.
[03:16] <mnoir> criticaL: in phpmyadmin, go to privileges.  edit a user and look for the HOST field and set it appropriately
[03:16] <Intelligitimate> He says that is what the settings are on now, idea.
[03:16] <criticaL> mnoir; Okay, thanks!
[03:16] <locomotive> am I doing something wrong?
[03:16] <mnoir> criticaL: this is not a garantee but is often the solution
[03:17] <oFF-beAt> cpu: 1.7ghz/256k    pentium..  graphics.. gf4 fx 5200, 128mb... nvidia driver installed.. resolution 1280x1024
[03:17] <idea> intellig: if it's on auto, set to onboard.
[03:18] <mnoir> criticaL: pls let me know iffit works
[03:18] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: youll need to prefix your messages with "xtknight:" so i get alerted easily.  anyway, your specs look pretty good to me.  the resolution of the videos in question is 1280x1024 or is that your desktop resolution?  you could try playing the videos in mplayer
[03:18] <locomotive> anyone know an answer to my question? :)
[03:18] <oFF-beAt> desktop resolution... not the video resolution
[03:19] <idea> someone will pick up on it locomtive. *maybe*
[03:19] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: go in the terminal, type  mplayer <path to video>
[03:19] <compengi> i have a little problem, the right down corner of the screen isn't there 2 workplace switchers they disappeared
[03:19] <idea> i'm still hoping my issue gets some ubuntu love :)
[03:19] <idea> compengi: try adding a new panel..
[03:19] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, i'll have to install mplayer first brb.. after installin
[03:20] <criticaL> mnoir; Sure! Will test it soon..
[03:20] <mnoir> :)
[03:20] <compengi> idea, it's not in the list
[03:21] <xtknight> compengi: "Workspace Switcher" under "Desktop & Windows"
[03:21] <compengi> idea, found them
[03:21] <compengi> i found them
[03:21] <idea> :)
[03:21] <xtknight> compengi: then right click, select move, and then you can drag them to the bottom
[03:22] <idea> "The default theme schemas could not be found on your system.  This means that you probably don't have metacity installed, or that your gconf is configured incorrectly."
[03:22] <idea> I need some help.. google ain't..
[03:22] <xtknight> idea: hmm
[03:22] <compengi> yeah i know that thanks
[03:22] <xtknight> idea: ill see what i can do
[03:22] <idea> xtknight: i'd be mightily obliged :)
[03:23] <frogzoo> idea: have you tried configuring the gnome theme?
[03:23] <idea> xtknight: i've tried a new account. same deal.
[03:23] <xtknight> idea: cd /usr/share/gconf && ls -Ral    post to pastebin plz
[03:23] <idea> frogzoo: no theme manager access..generates the above error..
[03:23] <compengi> xtknight, btw was the trash behind the workplace swicher?
[03:23] <idea> xtknight: ok.
[03:23] <xtknight> compengi: trash is on right of workspace switcher
[03:23] <compengi> switcher*
[03:24] <compengi> okay thanks
[03:24] <frogzoo> idea: dpkg -l metacity
[03:24] <XVampireX> http://ces2007.video-blog.eu/olpc-csound/
[03:24] <XVampireX> This is awesome
[03:24] <locomotive> please guys I need, bee sticking with this problem for 2 hours: I want to add windows to grub which is on hda2, I did all of this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu but it doesn't work. I did (hd0,1)
[03:25] <xtknight> compengi: could be a resolution change or diff window manager like compiz
[03:25] <idea> frogzoo: metacity is already installed.
[03:25] <frogzoo> idea: & gnome-themes ?
[03:25] <criticaL> mnoir; Seems like it doesn't work.. :/
[03:25] <xtknight> packages can be installed in the debian system but files could be missing
[03:25] <mnoir> criticaL: the message again?
[03:25] <Balachmar> Could I get some help of a Freenode staffer?
[03:25] <idea> frogzoo: yes
[03:26] <idea> frogzoo: i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop..
[03:26] <Balachmar> I can't pm, because I cannot register with this nick
[03:26] <xtknight> idea: got the pastebin?
[03:26] <Balachmar> That is because I regged this nick without a password
[03:26] <frogzoo> Balachmar: so register a new nick
[03:26] <idea> xtknight: will have.. being very slow..
[03:27] <idea> xtknight: http://pastebin.com/863540
[03:27] <Balachmar> frogzoo: I use this nick elsewhere as well. I would really like to keep this one...
[03:27] <xtknight> Balachmar: reg another one temporarily, ask an admin about the "Balachmar" nickname
[03:27] <Mikelo> IdleOne: i checked my sources.list & I do seem to have "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy all"
[03:27] <criticaL> mnoir; Uhm, like: Can't connect to MySQL-Server on "192.168.0.xxx" (Translated from Swedish)
[03:28] <xtknight> idea: you could use pastebin.ubuntu.nl   might be faster.  being slow for me as well
[03:28] <Balachmar> xtknight: ok that is an idea
[03:28] <erUSUL> locomotive: can you post the windows stanza you're using to a pastebin?
[03:28] <xtknight> !pastebin | idea
[03:28] <ubotu> idea: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:28] <xtknight> seems to be faster
[03:28] <idea> xtknight: ok. will do in future.
[03:28] <mnoir> criticaL: can you open a terminal on that server and connect locally from that window with the user?
[03:29] <criticaL> By using "mysql -u root -p"? Yes.
[03:29] <crit09> All: Is there some help-literature (open source and commercial) available for Java Programming (Basic and Advanced) in Edgy Eft?
[03:29] <criticaL> mnoir; By using "mysql -u root -p"? Yes.
[03:29] <xtknight> crit09: you might find Eclipse and its accompanying documentation/tutorials helpful
[03:29] <Mikelo> i need help with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[03:29] <mnoir> criticaL: but root cannot connect remotely.  i assume you can ping the server.  I am thinking
[03:30] <frogzoo> idea: what about libgnome-window-settings1
[03:30] <criticaL> mnoir; Oh, it can't? Well, I'll try creating another user then.
[03:30] <thefish> anyone here use edgy with ipw3945? i am having troubles with it dropping off
[03:30] <mnoir> criticaL: no - i was assuming :)
[03:30] <Mikelo> im having some trouble in starting the GDM with video card via k8m890
[03:31] <criticaL> mnoir; Oh. :P
[03:31] <mnoir> criticaL: root is not a good user to use remotely but i did not mean to think that was your problem :)
[03:31] <mnoir> criticaL: but if you can create another user it would be a good test :)
[03:31] <criticaL> mnoir; Well, I can ping the server. And I have Apache running on it and I can access that.
[03:31] <idea> frogzoo: i created a new test account and it appears it won't launch apt-get :(
[03:31] <mnoir> i am thinking :)
[03:32] <rambo3> criticaL, with ssh?
[03:32] <mnoir> criticaL: have you asked in #mysql ?
[03:32] <idea> frogzoo: let me see if synaptic works instead.
[03:32] <erUSUL> locomotive: i think you should put a 'hide (hd0,0)' before the "root" line
[03:33] <au_> hi all.. I need to get to know which process is using /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:33] <LjL> !test
[03:33] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:33] <xtknight> idea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gconf  && sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity && sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity-common && sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-themes
[03:33] <criticaL> rambo3; No.
[03:33] <criticaL> mnoir; No I haven't
[03:33] <xtknight> idea: give it a shot...cant get much worse
[03:33] <criticaL> :p
[03:33] <idea> xtknight: ok
[03:33] <rambo3> criticaL, whats your socket and port in my.conf?
[03:34] <idea> xtknight: can you repost that after i've logged into original account please.. apt-get appears not to work from this account :(
[03:34] <xtknight> au_: sudo lsof | grep dpkg/lock
[03:34] <rambo3> i mean bind-address
[03:34] <frogzoo> au_: fuser /var/...
[03:34] <xtknight> au_: if that returns nothing, the file can be safely removed
[03:34] <criticaL> rambo3; bind-address = 127.0.0.1
[03:34] <emokid> err - question - if I resize the ntfs partition my windows install is on, will it still boot?
[03:34] <PriceChild> !test
[03:34] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:35] <emokid> PriceChild, ?
[03:35] <rambo3> criticaL, thats localhost you cant access  it from outside then
[03:35] <Stormx2> Guys
[03:35] <xtknight> idea: sure
[03:35] <Mikelo> I have a K8M890 based motherboard, has anyone here managed to use the onboard video card?
[03:35] <Stormx2> where is the serpentine cache space?
[03:35] <frogzoo> emokid: please don't use gparted to resize ntfs
[03:35] <shadebug> hoping this is a "just ask" channel: Right, I'm trying out ubuntu on my gentoo box and I've got grub set up nicely already, so how do I get ubuntu to not set up grub?
[03:35] <mnoir> rambo3: so change to the public address??
[03:35] <emokid> frogzoo, *duh*
[03:35] <idea> xtknight: don't run off! will brb.
[03:35] <emokid> frogzoo, but anyway, will it still boot or does Windows require the partition size to remain static?
[03:36] <criticaL> rambo3; Oh. What should I set it to then? The computers IP?
[03:36] <criticaL> 192.168.0.xxx
[03:36] <frogzoo> emokid: the first couple of blocks won't get moved, so booting won't be your problem, if your data is still there
[03:36] <yamanra> i can't make my asus laptop builtin cam work on ubuntu 6
[03:36] <emokid> frogzoo, alright
[03:37] <yamanra> any one know how to make it work  ?
[03:37] <rambo3> criticaL, to whatever address  you want to access it
[03:37] <emokid> yamanra, ubuntu 6? there's no such version
[03:37] <rambo3> i think it need to be set as in /etc/hosts
[03:38] <XVampireX> yamanra, it's either 6.06 or 6.10
[03:38] <idea> xtknight: back!!
[03:38] <xtknight> idea: still here ;)
[03:38] <PriceChild> emokid, I was just testing ubotu, we had problems with him yday and brought in a replacement.. things seem fine now though
[03:38] <yamanra> i mean the 6.10 :P
[03:39] <emokid> hmm,
[03:39] <idea> xtknight: excellent :) can you repost the command majickery please? :)
[03:39] <jrib> but, it is 9:30? :P
[03:39] <xtknight> idea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gconf  && sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity && sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity-common && sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-themes
[03:39] <xsaci> is there somewhere a detailed description of how a linux distribution is layered
[03:39] <xtknight> jrib: ~9:39 AM eastern
[03:39] <LjL> !test
[03:39] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:39] <frogzoo> xsaci: it's called linux standard base - google
[03:39] <jrib> xtknight: thanks :)  wrong channel
[03:39] <idea> xtknight: curious: says gconf not installed..
[03:39] <mnoir> rambo3: my research implies that commenting or removal of the line is the correct procedure to allod other than localhost access
[03:40] <rambo3> xsaci, what distribution
[03:40] <idea> xtknight: shall i get that?
[03:40] <xtknight> idea: sudo dpkg --purge gconf && sudo apt-get install gconf
[03:40] <shadebug> by the looks of it I need to use the alternate install CD, good thing I used a DVD-RW
[03:40] <rambo3> mnoir, what?
[03:40] <idea> xtknight: ok. thanks.
[03:40] <xtknight> idea: may need to remove &&, dpkg could fail, thats alright, mainly need to install gconf
[03:40] <xtknight> idea: by remove && i mean place a | in place of it ;P
[03:40] <criticaL> rambo3; It worked! Thanks.
[03:41] <criticaL> mnoir; Thanks to you too! ;)
[03:41] <mnoir> rambo3: the bind 127... line restricts to only localhost. to allow remote access, removal or comment seems to be the correct option
[03:41] <idea> xtknight: ah, ok.. wasn't familiar with && syntax
[03:41] <rambo3> mnoir, yes you are correct
[03:41] <mnoir> criticaL: you changed the bind to the 192 address?
[03:41] <criticaL> mnoir; Yes.
[03:41] <xtknight> idea: && checks if last cmd fails before it succeeds.  pipe (|) does not check success of cmds , it just goes rambo
[03:41] <mnoir> criticaL: does phpmyadmin still work?
[03:42] <criticaL> mnoir; Seems like that, yes. :)
[03:42] <database> What is the command to reconfigure it?
[03:42] <database> I know it's part of APT.
[03:42] <mnoir> criticaL: ok :)
[03:42] <lulu> hola
[03:42] <criticaL> ;)
[03:42] <xtknight> database: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:42] <database> Thank you.
[03:42] <apokryphos> database: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[03:43] <mnoir> criticaL: just one last test, break phpmyadmin connection and reestablish?
[03:43] <lulu> hello
[03:43] <michaelpo> !skype
[03:43] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:43] <Martiini> how do I get information about a file when there is no filename (probably iso file)
[03:43] <xtknight> Martiini: no filename? what do you mean
[03:44] <criticaL> mnoir; What do you mean? :P
[03:44] <idea> xtknight: all done.
[03:44] <frogzoo> Martiini: file &*(&*)&
[03:44] <xtknight> whoa
[03:44] <xtknight> what does that do
[03:44] <idea> xtknight: do i need to logout?
[03:44] <xtknight> lol
[03:44] <xtknight> idea: probably
[03:44] <database> Thank you.
[03:45] <idea> xtknight: same error. let me logout and in again.
[03:45] <Stormx2> Why does serpentine have to "prepare media files" for like 30 minutes?
[03:45] <xtknight> idea: ok
[03:45] <mnoir> criticaL: i thought that the fix for remote would break the phpmyadmin ability.  by closing the browser and reopening, reloading, relogin, you are testing that it really still works, not using an old connection
[03:45] <criticaL> mnoir; I'll try, wait.
[03:45] <mnoir> np :)
[03:46] <lulu> hola algien que hable espaol
[03:46] <criticaL> mnoir; Yep, it still works. :P
[03:46] <xtknight> !es | lulu
[03:46] <frogzoo> !es | lulu
[03:46] <ubotu> lulu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:46] <mnoir> criticaL: good !
[03:46] <criticaL> mnoir; Yes. Thank you for your help! ;)
[03:46] <idea> xtknight: same as before. no change :(
[03:47] <xtknight> idea: blah we'll get it fixed.  linux can always be fixed
[03:47] <mnoir> np - it was really rambo3 :)
[03:47] <odnigmann> somebody can help-me a connect in wifi in command linux?
[03:47] <idea> xtknight: love your optimism and cando!
[03:47] <Daverocks> odnigmann: yeah?
[03:48] <Martiini> frogzoo:
[03:48] <Martiini> root@kubuntu-desktop:/media/hdd1# file fsck*
[03:48] <Martiini> fsck0000.rec: data
[03:48] <Daverocks> odnigmann: does your wireless card work out of the box on linux?
[03:48] <Martiini> frogzoo:  what can "data" be ?
[03:48] <Martiini> for iso it says iso
[03:49] <xtknight> idea: cat /etc/gconf/2/path   post on pastebin
[03:49] <MaTaKs>  22:48:37 up 13:27,  3 users,  load average: 0.20, 0.15, 0.24 <---  what does the 3 users mean? i type on the command uptime
[03:49] <idea> xtknight: ok
[03:49] <frogzoo> Martiini: you can try 'od -c ### | less'
[03:50] <xtknight> MaTaKs: sometimes it could be pseudo 'users' like a printer service, etc
[03:50] <secreet> Is is possible to install ubuntu with like, PXE/TFTPD boot?
[03:50] <MaTaKs> xtknight: ok i thougth there's another user using my box :)
[03:50] <odnigmann> Daverocks ,  I find that yes
[03:50] <xtknight> MaTaKs: usually not.  i have 3 users right now too and i know no one else is on my pc
[03:51] <frogzoo> idea: you have gnome-control-center ?
[03:51] <luli> hello
[03:51] <Daverocks> odnigmann: if you do "iwlist interfacename scan" (replacing interface name with your interface like eth0 or wlan0), do you get results?
[03:51] <MaTaKs> xtknight: ok.. just wanna clarify things out. thnx for the info :)
[03:51] <luli> anithing
[03:51] <odnigmann> Daverocks yes
[03:51] <odnigmann> in eth1
[03:51] <idea> frogzoo: yes
[03:51] <Mikelo> i need help with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[03:51] <Martiini> frogzoo:  od -c ### | less  WORKED! Brilliant .. Youre a genius , man
[03:51] <luli> i love you
[03:52] <Daverocks> odnigmann: ok, to set the essid (network name, called "SSID" in windows), do "iwconfig eth1 essid YOURESSIDHERE"
[03:52] <frogzoo> Martiini: glad it helped
[03:52] <Ayabara> anyone know how I can fix the hp_mute_led / ac97_quirk issue on my inspiron 6000?
[03:52] <odnigmann> Daverocks  i do this
[03:52] <Daverocks> odnigmann: does the network have a form of encryption?
[03:52] <idea> xtknight: pastebin.ubuntu.nl not found.. reverting to standard pastebin
[03:52] <odnigmann> Daverocks no
[03:52] <xtknight> !pastebin
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <xtknight> idea: that exact url ?
[03:52] <odnigmann> a do too iwconfig eth1 ap MAC
[03:53] <idea> ah. k :)
[03:53] <xtknight> idea: its actually -nl.org
[03:53] <odnigmann> Daverocks is necessary?
[03:53] <Daverocks> odnigmann: then, assuming there's no other restrictions in place relating to the wlan, it should work
[03:53] <krolik> hi
[03:53] <Daverocks> odnigmann: you don't need to put the mac address in if you use the essid option
[03:53] <Daverocks> odnigmann: iwconfig automatically gets the mac of the AP when it does essid
[03:54] <odnigmann> Daverocks ok
[03:54] <Daverocks> odnigmann: so... does it work?
[03:54] <idea> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2285/
[03:54] <luli> hola alguien que hable espaol o english
[03:54] <apokryphos> !spanish
[03:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:54] <cecca> hi! may I ask help for rythmbox? I need to know hot to copy music from iPod to PC
[03:54] <frogzoo> idea: you can try 'gnome-theme-manager > /tmp/xxx 2>&1' & see where it crashes
[03:54] <idea> frogzoo: ok
[03:54] <odnigmann> Daverocks and now.. i need remove the MAC?
[03:54] <Martiini> frogzoo:  Im sure I forget that command after Ive finished with it
[03:55] <Daverocks> odnigmann: uh, what exactly are you asking?
[03:55] <frogzoo> Martiini: od = octal dump, -c means human readable
[03:55] <odnigmann> Daverocks and now.. i need remove the APMAC?
[03:55] <Daverocks> odnigmann: i don't understand how you can "remove" an AP's MAC
[03:55] <idea> frogzoo: appears to do nothing at all.
[03:55] <odnigmann> Daverocks and now.. i need remove the access point?
[03:55] <secreet> Is is possible to install ubuntu with like, PXE/TFTPD boot?
[03:56] <frogzoo> idea: no, it's just slow cos of the strace
[03:56] <y3it221_klce> how to create an IRC account using GAIM in Ubuntu
[03:56] <odnigmann> i do this.. iwconfig eth1 AP 00:34:08...
[03:56] <xtknight> idea: this one sure is tough
[03:56] <idea> frogzoo: oh, ok :)
[03:56] <frogzoo> idea: lol, it's  late 'strace gnome- etc...
[03:56] <Azul> y3it221_klce, just log in with whatever name you wnat
[03:56] <IdleOne> y3it221_klce: click on accounts
[03:56] <Daverocks> odnigmann: that should work if the MAC is correct
[03:56] <Azul> want*
[03:56] <odnigmann> yes
[03:56] <Mikelo> i am having this problem with apt http://rafb.net/p/FxC8QJ19.html
[03:56] <odnigmann> is correct
[03:56] <Daverocks> odnigmann: so then it should be working
[03:57] <idea> frogzoo: lol. oh, ok ;)
[03:57] <odnigmann> Daverocks and now? for test?
[03:57] <Daverocks> odnigmann: i mean, assuming you've assigned yourself a static IP or are using dhcp
[03:57] <luli> kubuntu hola
[03:57] <rambo3> Mikelo, apt-get -f install
[03:57] <IdleOne> Mikelo: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[03:57] <Daverocks> odnigmann: "ping 4.2.2.2" to see if you're on the internet, but you might want to check your IP settings
[03:57] <odnigmann> dhcp in ethernet cable
[03:58] <odnigmann> Daverocks its respond
[03:58] <luli> odnigmann hello
[03:58] <xtknight> idea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=207219
[03:58] <Daverocks> odnigmann: so the wireless access point will give you an IP through dhcp?
[03:58] <Daverocks> odnigmann: ok, great
[03:58] <y3it221_klce> Azul: how to make out account get Recognized, i added an IRC account... but when i give password... it says incorrect password
[03:58] <idea> xtknight: yeah, it's tricky.. let's check that url.
[03:58] <Daverocks> odnigmann: and DNS works? "host ubuntu.com" gives a response?
[03:58] <luli> idea hello
[03:59] <idea> luli: hello
[03:59] <odnigmann> yes
[03:59] <Mikelo> IdleOne: http://rafb.net/p/G3yZPq74.html
[03:59] <cumhur> hi guys
[03:59] <odnigmann> Daverocks but a use the ethernet ?
[03:59] <luli> what are you doing idea
[03:59] <xtknight> idea: sudo apt-get --purge remove metacity && sudo apt-get install metacity    i guess
[03:59] <cumhur> lol
[03:59] <Daverocks> odnigmann: um?
[03:59] <odnigmann> Daverocks and not a wifi.. correct?
[03:59] <Daverocks> odnigmann: aren't you using wifi now?
[03:59] <idea> xtknight: ok. let's do that ;)
[03:59] <odnigmann> no
[04:00] <odnigmann> i use by cable
[04:00] <Daverocks> odnigmann: oh, are you asking if what's happening is all the internet traffic that's succeeding is going through your other ethernet interface?
[04:00] <Stormx2> Why does serpentine have to "prepare media files" for like 30 minutes?
[04:00] <odnigmann> yes
[04:00] <Azul> y3it221_klce, i'm not sure, i fogot how i did mine... i just remember i did it with xchat
[04:00] <matteo> hi
[04:00] <matteo> i'm switching from debian to ubuntu
[04:00] <matteo> i'm making a big tar of my /home
[04:01] <IdleOne> Mikelo: try #beryl maybe they can help you I dont use beryl so not sure how to install it
[04:01] <hhhjr> can someone tell me how to enable support for sata when recompiling from 2.6.17 to 2.6.19.1?
[04:01] <luli> hello mateo
[04:01] <Azul> Stormx2, yeah, and why does gnome baker has to do the same
[04:01] <xtknight> hhhjr: should be enabled by default if you copy over ubutnu's config.
[04:01] <odnigmann> Daverocks but .. if i remove a cable, the internet dont work..
[04:01] <Stormx2> All the windows apps I have just encode on-the-fly...
[04:01] <Daverocks> odnigmann: run "network-admin" to deactivate the ethernet and activate the wireless
[04:01] <Mikelo> IdleOne: me neithier im just trying to get my new video card working
[04:01] <idea> frogzoo: same error as if i launch theme manager.
[04:01] <Stormx2> wtf
[04:01] <IdleOne> Mikelo: what is it? the card
[04:02] <frogzoo> idea: now 'less /tmp/xxx'  & look for errors
[04:02] <Stormx2> now it says writing failed!
[04:02] <luli> idea:what are you doing
[04:02] <Daverocks> odnigmann: even if you remove the cable, the wireless might still be working, but ubuntu wouldn't have activated the wireless interface anyway
[04:02] <Stormx2> Must I reboot to windows just to burn cds? >__<
[04:02] <Azul> Stormx2, use burncenter
[04:02] <Mikelo> IdleOne: I have a K8M890 based motherboard
[04:02] <idea> luli: i'm trying to resolve a broken schema scenario.
[04:02] <Azul> it works great for me
[04:02] <odnigmann> Daverocks  ok.. wait please
 I have tried to recompile it several times a couple of different ways new config file and copying the old menu config but I always get the same results
[04:03] <Stormx2> Azul: not in the repos?
[04:03] <Daverocks> odnigmann: i'm going to need to go soon :(
[04:03] <Azul> Stormx2,  i don't think so
[04:03] <xtknight> idea: did that cmd help any?  or if youre debugging with strace, etc right now thats fine
[04:03] <IdleOne> Mikelo: sorry dude I cant help
[04:03] <Mikelo> IdleOne: im having some trouble in starting the GDM with this video card: via k8m890
[04:03] <Azul> but it's easy to install
[04:03] <luli> idea:what hapen
[04:03] <Mikelo> IdleOne: no problem
[04:03] <xtknight> hhhjr: what sata controller do you have?
[04:03] <idea> xtknight: just downloading..
[04:03] <xtknight> idea: ahh ok
[04:04] <idea> xtknight: i *guess* strace finished when the same error was generated?
[04:04] <pilotkevin> hey guys, i need some help
[04:04] <xtknight> idea: i dont know, youll have to leave that to frogzoo , i havent been follwoing :P
[04:04] <luli> idea:where are you
[04:04] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, i've installed mplayer.. mplayer can't play any video files.. "error opening/onitializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"
[04:04] <idea> xtknight: ok. gonna relogin.
[04:05] <idea> luli: not now, please ;)
[04:05] <quitte> hi. where can i find netboot install imges for eft?
[04:05] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: mplayer -vo xv  <file>   does that work?
[04:05] <hhhjr> xtknight it is a intel 865 chipset and the sata controller is a ich5
[04:05] <bowens> ok, I have done something bad, I screwed up my 2.6.17-10 kernel with a suspend2 patch, is there some way to reinstall the original 2.6.17-10 from a repository?
[04:05] <Azul> oFF-beAt, type mplayer -vo help and check with different drivers
[04:05] <Daverocks> Azul: was just about to suggest that :P
[04:05] <erUSUL> bowens: use synaptic or apt ??
[04:05] <xtknight> bowens: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[04:05] <riotkittie> bowens: shoulg be. have you searched? :P
[04:06] <odnigmann> Daverocks.. error
[04:06] <Daverocks> odnigmann: explain
[04:06] <Azul> :)
[04:06] <odnigmann> Network is unreachable
[04:06] <luli> azul:hello
[04:06] <Daverocks> odnigmann: yes, wireless must not be configured correctly then
[04:06] <Azul> luli, hai
[04:06] <xtknight> hhhjr: did you select the module for your controller?
[04:06] <Daverocks> odnigmann: i would love to help you, really, but it's 2 AM here, and i'm tired
[04:06] <bowens> it says "Reinstallation of linux image is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
[04:06] <xtknight> hhhjr: what error are you receiving at bootup?
[04:07] <jatos> hey
[04:07] <Daverocks> odnigmann: i apologise... but i'm sure you can find other people here to help you
[04:07] <arron> Can anyone help me install iBuild?
[04:07] <jatos> anynone know a freeware program for hex editing my hard disk?
[04:07] <luli> azul:you are man o men
[04:07] <odnigmann> Daverocks
[04:07] <quitte> never mind. i found it
[04:07] <hhhjr> xtknight in the menu config? i am sorry I am a newbie
[04:07] <Daverocks> odnigmann: ...
[04:07] <idea> xtknight: same same :(
[04:07] <xtknight> hhhjr: yeah menu config
[04:07] <xtknight> idea: damn
[04:07] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, samething.. very slow frames
[04:07] <hhhjr> cant find fs
[04:07] <odnigmann> Daverocks.. you can give-me you msn
[04:07] <Azul> luli, yes i am :)
[04:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there a command similar to lspci for devices on the CardBus (PC-Card) interface?
[04:07] <Daverocks> odnigmann: sorry, i don't give that out
[04:07] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: alright.  well what about mplayer -vo gl  <file>  ?  we have to find a fast -vo then we can set the vo paramter in vlc
[04:07] <idea> xtknight: yeah. my sentiments also :)
[04:08] <odnigmann> for help-me leter
[04:08] <Azul> oFF-beAt, try the gl2 driver
[04:08] <quitte> well i didn#t but i found netboot images for dapper
[04:08] <pilotkevin> i need sis650 drivers ... i installed ubuntu 6.10 and it was fine but because that release had problems with my modem i had to use 6.06 instead, where the sis65 drivers aren't that good :\
[04:08] <Daverocks> odnigmann: i don't give out my msn. maybe i'll catch you in here later
[04:08] <Daverocks> odnigmann: there are tons of linux wireless gurus
[04:08] <riotkittie> doest lspci show cardbus items ?
[04:08] <odnigmann> ok
[04:08] <quitte> riotkittie: yes
[04:08] <Daverocks> odnigmann: cya, good luck
[04:09] <oFF-beAt> Azul, gl2 seems even slower
[04:09] <odnigmann> Daverocks tnks
[04:09] <riotkittie> IntuitiveNipple: try lspci | grep cardbus
[04:09] <IntuitiveNipple> riotkittie: It shows the controllers, but not devices on that bus
[04:09] <luli> azul: how old are years
[04:09] <riotkittie> oh
[04:09] <bowens> I think it's still trying to pull the bad kernel image from the repository I removed, but I ran the update
[04:09] <xtknight> idea: post   cat /var/log/syslog   itll be huge
[04:09] <quitte> IntuitiveNipple: uhm yes it does
[04:09] <bowens> do I have to remove the kernel completely and then reinstall?
[04:09] <Mikelo> IdleOne: the thing is that i just upgraded MB, RAM & processor.
 When I make a new config file I get cant find sda, when I copy the config file I get cant find fs
[04:09] <riotkittie> brb
[04:09] <Azul> luli, sorry, do i know you?
[04:09] <idea> xtknight: ok. on it!
[04:09] <alyssa__> Hello all!
[04:09] <odnigmann> Daverocks and sorry for my english :)) rs,,
[04:09] <IntuitiveNipple> I know I've queried it in the past but can't remember how
[04:09] <Mikelo> IdleOne: but i used the old HD's which already had ubuntu on
[04:09] <pilotkevin> anyone available to help?
[04:10] <EmxBA> best CD/DVD burner for linux? k3b? gnomebaker? nerolinux?
[04:10] <EmxBA> pilotkevin, what's the problem?
[04:10] <Mikelo> IdleOne: and i just ran ubuntu from there
[04:10] <quitte> IntuitiveNipple: cardctl ident maybe? that'S for pcmcia. cardbus shows in lspci
[04:10] <pilotkevin> i need sis650 drivers ... i installed ubuntu 6.10 and it was fine but because that release had problems with my modem i had to use 6.06 instead, where the sis65 drivers aren't that good :\
[04:10] <xtknight> hhhjr: hmmm.  by make a new config do you mean use the kernels' default?  are you following a guide for doing a new kernel?
[04:10] <Azul> i thought sis make graphix cards
[04:10] <EmxBA> Azul, and motherboards
[04:10] <alyssa__> Anyone know how I can find out if I have synaptic touchpad?
[04:10] <xtknight> sis also makes chipsets
[04:10] <riotkittie> sis makes a bunch of things
[04:10] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, Azul , i get slow frames n sound also now gets interrupted
[04:11] <pilotkevin> yeah, i have a weird onboard graphics card sis650
[04:11] <EmxBA> alyssa__, check xorg.conf in /etc/X11 dir
[04:11] <Azul> oFF-beAt, try another one
[04:11] <EmxBA> pilotkevin, use vesa driver ;)
[04:11] <luli> azul: my english no is perfect
[04:11] <frogzoo> alyssa__: lspci should show it up
[04:11] <pilotkevin> use what/
 I could throw in a ide drive but I am hellbent on figuring this out, I use the defaults with thw options checked for scsi and sata
[04:11] <Mikelo> IdleOne: everything works except the video card because i was using an old agp ati card before and now i have no choice but to use the onboard card
[04:11] <IntuitiveNipple> quitte: cardctl isn't installed... the device in question is on the cardbus i/f but presents as PCMCIA - i can see it in Gnome device manager but just can't recall how i managed to do it from the command line originally!
[04:11] <odnigmann> somebody can help-me in wifi conection? there a error in network-admin
[04:11] <Azul> luli, you spanish?
[04:11] <EmxBA> "vesa" driver, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:11] <alyssa__> EmxBA: well, xorg.conf lists synaptic, but the xorg.0.log reports error.
[04:11] <idea> xtknight: not so huge.. one sec.
[04:11] <pilotkevin> ill try that now, Emxba
[04:12] <xtknight> hhhjr: post  "sudo lspci"  on pastebin
[04:12] <Database> How would one go about getting the secondary monitor to be seen as on the left?
[04:12] <bowens> wait, can I specify a repository to download from with apt-get?
[04:12] <pilotkevin> oh i remember this one, think i tried that long time ago
[04:12] <alyssa__> EmxBA: frogzoo, I get the following error in xorg.0.log -- (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[04:12] <alyssa__> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
[04:12] <alyssa__> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Synaptics Touchpad"
[04:13] <xtknight> Database: if you have an nvidia card there are plenty of options...not quite sure about ati
[04:13] <piedoggie> trying to profile some Python code but when I try to dump the profile, I'm told: please install the python2.4-profiler package but that package doesn't exist
[04:13] <luli> azul, yes but i liked ser your friend and you
[04:13] <Database> xtknight, yes, I have nvidia.
[04:13] <micktm> Hi!
[04:13] <traildustrider> I am trying to find out how to mount my NTFS secondary drive. The wiki says to list partition tables I go System > Administration > Disks..... under system though I have no Administration option... Why?
[04:13] <xsaci> is there any other OS for linux than GNU?
[04:13] <pilotkevin> emxba: where can i get the info to input in this setup thing?
[04:13] <alyssa__> frogzoo: EmxBA, lspci doesnt show synaptic.
[04:13] <Ayabara> anyone? where can I configure the way my sound module is loaded in ubuntu?
[04:13] <montero61> good morning
[04:13] <xtknight> Database: sudo nvidia-settings
 I will after it finishing recopiling for the hundreth time
[04:13] <micktm> I have not the apache2.conf file in /etc/apache2!!!
[04:13] <riotkittie> if you have an ati card, the best option is to remove it from you box and then to shoot it. repeatedly.
[04:13] <idea> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2289/
[04:13] <EmxBA> pilotkevin, what? :)
[04:13] <xtknight> hhhjr: ah ok..may want to stop the compile so we can check some things
[04:14] <rambo3> xsaci linux is gnu
[04:14] <EmxBA> or just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put vesa driver, pilotkevin
[04:14] <Azul> rambo3, linux isn't gnu
[04:14] <pilotkevin> it asks me for info... right now "please enter the video card's bus identifier"
[04:14] <rambo3> Azul, linux/Gnu
[04:14] <luli> azul, please
[04:14] <montero61> I have a printer Epson installed in xp and want to occupy it from my ubuntu and like pcs they are not on-line by router that ago PS this is one traducsion is not very good I I am of Spanish speech
[04:14] <mnoir> xsaci: what do you mean?
[04:14] <Azul> luli, what's up?
[04:14] <Database> Perfect.
[04:14] <Azul> luli, wanna be friends?
[04:14] <Database> Thank you very much.
[04:14] <hhhjr> ok let me stop it and check, I assume  start it in the old kernel
[04:14] <frogzoo> alyssa__: just a mo, there's a place in /proc that mentions mice
[04:14] <xsaci> well linux is just the kernl
[04:14] <xsaci> and gnu is the os
[04:15] <xsaci> everything beyond that is distribution and x
[04:15] <Azul> rambo3, linux is only a kernel, gnu are tools built on the kernel to make it more useful
[04:15] <xsaci> I wonder if there is anything similar to gnu
[04:15] <luli> thank you speek espanish
[04:15] <montero61> a ni
[04:15] <cake> hey guys, any quick tip on howto get the master volue to control spdif sound as well?
[04:15] <Azul> that's why they call it GNU/Linux, and not Linux
[04:15] <montero61> speack spanich
[04:15] <xtknight> idea: let's dynamite gdm and gconf then.  sudo apt-get --purge remove gdm && sudo apt-get install gdm && sudo apt-get --purge remove gconf && sudo apt-get install gconf
[04:15] <xtknight> !es | montero61
[04:15] <ubotu> montero61: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:15] <mnoir> !es | montero61
[04:15] <rambo3> Azul, pleae dont teach me that 2 crade at uni , i v known that for a long time
[04:15] <idea> xtknight: ok :)
[04:15] <montero61> tanks
[04:16] <montero61> an luky uin yu ubuntus
[04:16] <luli> azul, thanks you espeek espanish
[04:16] <montero61> good bay
[04:16] <alyssa__> frogzoo: I dont think I follow. Anyway I have a fujitsu lifebook, c series, C2220.
[04:16] <montero61> :)
[04:16] <xtknight> !es | luli
[04:16] <ubotu> luli: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:16] <Azul> rambo3, then why are you teaching wrong things to people?
[04:16] <Azul> teach them what's right
[04:16] <pilotkevin> so wher ecan i find the answer to "Please enter the video card's bus identifier."
[04:16] <idea> luli: eres muy divertante ;)
[04:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Ahhh! pccardctl ident
[04:16] <Azul> luli, no.. only arabic and english
[04:16] <rambo3> Azul dont be a smartass
[04:16] <xsaci> but why didn't gnu have its own window system instead of using x?
[04:16] <up365> Ayabara: try this link worked for SBLive  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:17] <mnoir> xsaci: because the x ppl have a good product :)
[04:17] <piedoggie> xsaci: because they didn't have enough sense
[04:17] <Azul> rambo3, mature behaviour please
[04:17] <luli> azul, ok  i understand
[04:17] <shalini> where can i get the information on edUbuntu
[04:17] <Ayabara> up365, thanks. promising name on the thread at least :-)
[04:17] <xtknight> !edubuntu | shalini
[04:17] <ubotu> shalini: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[04:17] <xsaci> well if x was a good product it would have window managers
[04:17] <piedoggie> xsaci: you need to understand more history
[04:18] <luli> idea what hapenig
[04:18] <xsaci> I have read a lot of it
[04:18] <piedoggie> the X folks were recoiling from the disaster called X10
[04:18] <sam_tt2nn> hi
[04:18] <alyssa__> Shalini: Have you tried: http://www.edubuntu.org/
[04:18] <piedoggie> and they decided to not determine policy and let that be up to the individual window managers
[04:18] <sam_tt2nn> i just finished install my beryl
[04:18] <mnoir> shalini: also #edubuntu
[04:18] <piedoggie> in hindsight, that was not the smartest move
[04:18] <xsaci> yeah
[04:18] <piedoggie> but since then, there have been many good replacement window managers
[04:18] <Azul> why the name X11?
[04:18] <mnoir> piedoggie: you don't like a free-for-all :)
[04:18] <piedoggie> I mean display systems
[04:19] <luli> xtknight:hello
[04:19] <piedoggie> :-)
[04:19] <idea> luli: trying to repair a broken ubuntu install..
[04:19] <piedoggie> but none of them ever got the mind share necessary for required traction
[04:19] <riotkittie> because its the... 11th version?
[04:19] <mnoir> piedoggie: in one way you are right because no one solution has won!
[04:19] <shalini> thank u
[04:19] <piedoggie> X11? that's because it came after X10
[04:19] <Azul> ok, why X?
[04:19] <luli> and why broken me
[04:19] <xtknight> luli: hello.  if you need help with an Ubuntu problem, you can ask your question.  if you just want to talk I suggest joining the #ubuntu-es  channel
[04:19] <name> how do i tell proftpd to only allow users to mess in their home?
[04:19] <Azul> why not D?
[04:19] <riotkittie> why not X?
[04:20] <piedoggie> the windowing system I really like from an architectural perspective is Y
[04:20] <piedoggie> X marks the spot
[04:20] <Amadeo> Is linux-image-386 going to be more optimized for me than linux-image-generic?
[04:20] <piedoggie> ask any pirate
[04:20] <luli> xtknight what
[04:20] <piedoggie> anyway, this is getting fairly far off topic for support channel
[04:20] <Hooc1> i have just installed ubuntu how do i go about installing my gfx drivers? (ati x1800xt)
[04:20] <riotkittie> yarrr. that said, stupid question time.
[04:20] <oFF-beAt> no use
[04:20] <sam_tt2nn> because X follows W :)
[04:20] <xsaci> wouldn't it be better if the OS =GNU/Linux had most of that internally than externally done?
[04:20] <xtknight> Amadeo: yes, if you have an i386
[04:21] <Azul> i'll ask at offtopic
[04:21] <xsaci> I mean why have so many parts of an OS
[04:21] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, still get slow frames n broken sound
[04:21] <alyssa__> can someone help on synaptic touch pad?
[04:21] <Amadeo> xtknight: thank you
[04:21] <xsaci> thats why its hard to standardize linux
[04:21] <sam_tt2nn> Hooc1 you can install the drivers from ATI.com
[04:21] <luli> idea and why you broken  the line whit me
[04:21] <Azul> xsaci, the beauty of linux is you can use whatever works for you, you don't stick to one window manager, one sound arcitecture.. etc
[04:22] <xsaci> yeah I understand that but thats why its not widely used
[04:22] <xsaci> right?
[04:22] <riotkittie> eh. standardization leads to limits. i like options.
[04:22] <luli> azul :ilove you como friends
[04:22] <Azul> oFF-beAt, did you install the drivers for your graphics card?
[04:22] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: try mplayer -ac null -vo gl <file>   you should get no sound, but see if anything still skips.  maybe it's an audio driver problem, we'll have to limit it down
[04:22] <idea> luli: es mejor que hablas en #ubuntu es. es mi ordinador que es rompa, no tu :)
[04:22] <oFF-beAt> Azul, yes
[04:22] <Azul> luli, teamo
[04:22] <xtknight> :O
[04:22] <idea> luli: #ubuntu-es
[04:22] <frogzoo> alyssa__: try 'less /proc/bus/input/devices' - may be mentioned as "GlidePoint"
[04:22] <piedoggie> Azul: is there a channel where we (including xsaci) can continue this conversation without interfering with the support folks?
[04:23] <riotkittie> No. Linux isnt widely used because MS strongholds the desktop market and has  done so for many years.
[04:23] <luli> azul i love you more
[04:23] <xtknight> lolo
[04:23] <odnigmann> hi.. i need help for a connection in wifi.. please
[04:23] <idea> xtknight: all done.. logging in again. brb.
[04:23] <xsaci> well thats because its easy for users to use it
[04:23] <xtknight> idea: ok
[04:23] <luli> idea are you crazy
[04:23] <lerneaen_hydra> random question: is there any page with info on getting midi/jack to work?
[04:23] <xsaci> and I can see why in many perspectives
[04:23] <Azul> luli, piedoggie what conversation?
[04:23] <Azul> opps
[04:23] <alyssa__> frogzoo: PS/2 Generic Mouse. :(
[04:23] <riotkittie> come to #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[04:24] <xsaci> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <luli> azul: what is piedoggies
[04:24] <frogzoo> alyssa__: that's the externally connected one, sure
[04:24] <xtknight> lol
[04:24] <piedoggie> little conversation about windowing systems and organization of Linux etc..
[04:24] <cappiz> someone here ever tried luksOpen with a UUID instaed of /dev/device ?
[04:24] <linuxphotogeek> hi, installed edgy desktop - reboot - "insert system disk press enter"???
[04:24] <Azul> luli, go to #ubuntu-offtopic.. this might not be the best place for exchanging luv
[04:24] <jorgp> is there a way to get mkisofs to create an iso of a file that is 6.5gig
[04:24] <alyssa__> frogzoo: I dont have an externally connected mouse.
[04:24] <frogzoo> alyssa__: the Synaptic Touchpads are located on the front of lappies
[04:24] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, still slow.. but if i resize the widnow to a very small size.. no frame problems
[04:24] <luli> azul:why
[04:25] <alyssa__> frogzoo: no PS2 port, no external PS2/USB mouse. I use just the touchpad in the front of my notebook.
[04:25] <riotkittie> no. Windows is not necessarily easier than Linux. people find Windows easier because it's been crammed down their throats, and theyre used to it
[04:25] <qingting> installed realplayer  and i cant use it still ~  does anyone know what i can do ??  is there any codecs available?
[04:25] <frogzoo> alyssa__: kk, well still configure it as ps2 & see how you go
[04:25] <xsaci> not easier per say
[04:25] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: somehow i think the video drivers were not installed correctly.  can you do   "glxinfo | grep rend"  and see if direct rendering is yes
[04:25] <qingting> riotkittie ill second that
[04:25] <xsaci> its just easier to understand
[04:25] <xsaci> since there is little to understand
[04:25] <alyssa__> okie.
[04:25] <riotkittie> come to offtopic. lets continue this there :P
[04:26] <qingting> riotkittie my friend uses Vista ~ i god no idea how to use that ~~  XP  no problem  but vista ` no clue ~~  Ubuntu is a lot simpler to use ~~~
[04:26] <[h] tony|afk> hi all
[04:26] <alyssa__> frogzoo: I gtg now.. will try that and let you know. Thanks for your time though!
[04:26] <rod> hi everyone
[04:26] <luli> #ubuntu:que es
[04:26] <oFF-beAt> direct rendering: Yes
[04:26] <oFF-beAt> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE2
[04:26] <idea> xtknight: love to say it's fixed! but, no. same same :((
[04:26] <rod> i'm having a waird problem here
[04:26] <rod> weird*
[04:26] <qingting> REALPLAYER  any kind of codec available cos this software aint working....
[04:26] <rod> with my video settings
[04:26] <luli> azul
[04:27] <Azul> luli, go away
[04:27] <xtknight> idea: well...i guess the only option is to reinstall...unless you dont mind me VNCing in and seeing what i can do... i wouldn't mind
[04:27] <rod> it's strange... i've updated the x server
[04:27] <jrib> qingting: use mplayer with w32codecs
[04:27] <jrib> !w32codecs | qingting
[04:27] <ubotu> qingting: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[04:27] <rod> but my screen gets crazy...
[04:27] <rod> with no focus
[04:27] <rod> like now
[04:27] <idea> xtknight: um. reinstall :( vnc ok.. we'd need to use hamachi, though..
[04:27] <rod> someone could help me?
[04:28] <xtknight> idea: that's cool.  used hamachi tons with vnc
[04:28] <xtknight> idea: give me a sec
[04:28] <frogzoo> rod: maybe your refresh rate is set too high?
[04:28] <idea> xtknight: proper stuff. you're a gent.. me too.. need to install hamachi and vnc..
[04:28] <rod> frogzoo, how can i check it?
[04:28] <ac45> hi guys, can someone help me ?
[04:28] <xtknight> idea: sudo apt-get install vino-server   for vnc
[04:28] <luli> azul:why you tel me
[04:28] <idea> xtknight: ok. thanks.
[04:29] <rod> frogzoo, i thought it could be a problem, with the monitor with my nvidia
[04:29] <rod> but isn't
[04:29] <qingting> JRIB  ~~  where do i get the codecs from ???  cant find them on the installer ~~~~
[04:30] <jrib> qingting: did you read the link ubotu told you about?
[04:30] <rod> frogzoo, i've tried to change the video settings like the frequency of the monitor... but it didn't work also
[04:30] <idea> xtknight: vino-server? not found..
[04:30] <luli> idea
[04:30] <qingting> jrib  yeah ~
[04:30] <rod> i've resintalled the x server
[04:30] <qingting> jrib  cant open it ~
[04:30] <rod> reconfigured it
[04:30] <xtknight> idea: just vino actually
[04:30] <jrib> qingting: can't open what? the link?
[04:30] <rod> nothing seems to be working
[04:31] <luli> azul: iam sad
[04:31] <qingting> jrib some websites are hard to open here (im behind the great firewall of china ~~)  anything with wiki in it is hard to open ~
[04:31] <idea> xtknight: ok. ta.
[04:31] <qingting> jrib cos of the wikipedia site....
[04:31] <Azul> luli, are you a troll?
[04:31] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, Azul ?
[04:31] <odnigmann> connect: Network is unreachable
[04:31] <odnigmann>  . whats mean? the network is down?
[04:31] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: how did the last command go?
[04:31] <rod> before, always when i power the pc on, i used to got a x server starting error... now i don't get it anymore
[04:31] <jrib> qingting: oh ok.  Well, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/edgy-seveas/ has w32codecs.  Are you able to open that page and do you know how to add it to your repository list?
[04:32] <oFF-beAt> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE2
[04:32] <frogzoo> odnigmann: means your ether's not plugged in
[04:32] <idea> xtknight: vino appears to be installed.. just getting hamachi.
[04:32] <LjL> odnigmann: Stay the patient course / Of little worth is your ire / The network is down
[04:32] <luli> azul:troll?
[04:32] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: somehow i think the video drivers were not installed correctly.  can you do   "glxinfo | grep rend"  and see if direct rendering is yes
[04:32] <rod> but the video keeps not working properly
[04:32] <Azul> oFF-beAt,
[04:32] <oFF-beAt> direct rendering: Yes
[04:32] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: err sorry.  wrong message
[04:32] <Azul> wus up ma man
[04:32] <qingting> jrib  ill try  but no Gtee~~~~
[04:32] <odnigmann> frogzoo  a try connect wifi
[04:32] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: try mplayer -ac null -vo gl <file>    see if it's still slow.  might be a broken audio driver.  audio wont work this time but see if it's smooth
[04:32] <rod> didn't find nothing related to ir on the web
[04:32] <frogzoo> odnigmann: well there's no link
[04:33] <locomotive> hi
[04:33] <odnigmann> frogzoo i do this.. iwconfig eth1 essid name
[04:33] <jorgp> why can I not create an iso of a single file that is > 4Gb?
[04:33] <rod> someone ?
[04:33] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, already did that... and it was slow.. only shows ok.. if i keep the video resized to a v small seize
[04:33] <odnigmann> frogzoo iwonfig eth1 AP 00:76:dd...
[04:33] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: are you using xgl ?
[04:33] <oFF-beAt> xtknight, yes xgl
[04:33] <locomotive> when you have installed somethin using wine, where did wine install it to then, so in which folder did wine install it?
[04:34] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: i'm afraid that might be the problem.  but i don't know why exactly
[04:34] <crit09> All: Any help document for installing and configuring thunderbird on ubuntu
[04:34] <xtknight> oFF-beAt: does it work properly in regular X?
[04:34] <luli> azul:
[04:34] <idea> xtknight: where do i drop the hamachi dir (from downloaded archive)? or is there a simpler install method?
[04:34] <oFF-beAt> *sigh* m gonna reinstall ubuntu :(
[04:34] <longbean> locomotive: the .wine folder. it's a hidden directory
[04:34] <xtknight> idea: download the tar file to your home dir, extract it.  then go into the hamachi dir and follow the README
[04:34] <luli> idea:hello
[04:35] <odnigmann> I can't connect wifi..
[04:35] <rod> someone?
[04:35] <odnigmann> someone can help-me in wifi connection?
[04:36] <ac45> anyone know a boot up parameter for ubuntu ... cause im having problems with it with my Radeon 9250 PCI
[04:36] <odnigmann> someone can help-me in wifi?
[04:36] <locomotive> guys,where does wine install the programs?
[04:37] <locomotive> in what directory?
[04:37] <LjL> locomotive: in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[04:37] <LjL> or ~/.wine generally speaking anyway
[04:37] <rod> how can i downgrade my X server version?
[04:37] <zbogdan> i'm having trouble with ntfs mount! Need help:
[04:37] <zbogdan> ntfsmount /dev/sda6 /windows/e -o ro
[04:37] <zbogdan> fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory
[04:37] <zbogdan> fuse_mount failed.
[04:37] <zbogdan> Unmounting:
[04:37] <zbogdan> root@zbog-desktop:/home/zbog# ls /dev/sda6
[04:37] <zbogdan> /dev/sda6
[04:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell zbogdan about paste | zbogdan, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:37] <rod> i mean... i'm using 10.4
[04:37] <odnigmann> i like linux, but i dont need connect him in wifi.. i go back to windows :/
[04:37] <odnigmann> rs..
[04:37] <rod> how to install 10.2
[04:38] <rod> and resinstall the nvidia drive?
[04:38] <luli> azuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllll
[04:38] <locomotive> and how do you open  ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files? Sorry for all those questions
[04:38] <LjL> rod, downgrading packages is hardly easy and hardly safe. however, i know you can request a specific version by using apt-get install packagename=version
[04:38] <LjL> luli: stop this please
[04:38] <zbogdan> i c! 10x Ljl!
[04:39] <LjL> zbogdan: sorry?
[04:39] <xtknight> he just said thanks in leet speak ;P
[04:39] <luli> ljl:what
[04:39] <LjL> i see :-)
[04:39] <BenPA> hi all ... does anyone know if there is a gui for mpop and msmtp
[04:39] <LjL> luli, you're giving the channel some line noise, as far as i can see. please stop. this channel is for support; ask support questions
[04:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell luli about etiquette | luli, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:40] <rod> LjL.. thanks! ...
[04:40] <rod> let me try something here
[04:40] <xtknight> idea: any luck?  get hamachi installed?
[04:40] <luli> LJL:WHAT HAPEN
[04:40] <locomotive> thanx Ljl
[04:40] <Hooc1> i have downloaded said ATI driver...how do i go about installing it ?
[04:41] <kontingenz> hello, ubuntu drives me crazy. after the installation everthing works fine out of the box (thinkpad T41) but now, two days after 1. MTRR Error --> very Slow Gnome 2. Speedstepping stops - whats that?
[04:41] <luli> LJL:i love you
[04:41] <BenPA> hi all ... does anyone know if there is a gui for mpop and msmtp or is there an easier program out there
[04:41] <LjL> yes, you are a troll
[04:42] <designdream> anyone have a slingbox working in ubuntu
[04:42] <rod> i've tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=10.2 but it didn't work :(
[04:43] <michaelpo> i'm new to linux.... how and what's the best practise use for the 4 workspace?
[04:43] <LjL> rod, probably not a valid version number
[04:43] <rod> hmm
[04:43] <LjL> rod: the valid version i have installed is 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1 for instance
[04:43] <rod> :)
[04:43] <LjL> rod: i don't know how that matches release numbers such as 10.2 honsetly
[04:43] <rod> let me try
[04:43] <Hooc1> how do i install a .run file ?
[04:43] <zbogdan> I have trouble with mounting a ntfs partition: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2290/
[04:43] <LjL> rod: where do you see that release number?
[04:44] <poorenglish> Hooc1: sh file
[04:44] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi! HELP NEEDED! Im trying to get two computers to connect using WLAN... the WLAN cards are activated but I cant get it to work!
[04:44] <LjL> Hooc1: you just execute it, it's most likely just an executable file. however, are you sure you want to do that? you're best off installing programs from packages
[04:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Hooc1 about software | Hooc1, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:44] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: without an acces point or router??
[04:44] <rod> the one i've installed here... i installet it like this : xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2=0ubuntu10
[04:44] <pakito> which ftp server is easy to install?
[04:44] <LjL> rod: hm, you're on dapper?
[04:45] <rod> yes
[04:45] <Jedrick> how to kill a program using terminal
[04:45] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: yeah... just two separate computer with onte WLAN-card each!
[04:45] <poorenglish> Jedrick: kill -i PID
[04:45] <LjL> Jedrick: killall programname
[04:45] <poorenglish> Jedrick: kill -9 PID
[04:45] <nanda> you can also use pkill
[04:45] <Jedrick> ok thnx
[04:45] <pakito> which ftp server is easy to install
[04:45] <LjL> rod: but, 1.0.2 - that sounds like it *would* be that 10.2 version
[04:46] <rod> it's the 10.4 version
[04:46] <pakito> which ftp server is easy to install
[04:46] <LjL> pakito: the one that's easy to break into.
[04:46] <LjL> !repeat | pakito
[04:46] <ubotu> pakito: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:46] <poorenglish> pakito: i used proftp, is easy for anonymous user
[04:46] <pakito> thank you
[04:47] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: dunno if tha's possible with linux... try with hostap
[04:47] <erUSUL> !hostap
[04:47] <Octavian`> hey....work games on ubuntu???ex.Counter strike?
[04:47] <Octavian`> :D
[04:47] <LjL> rod: well, well, what's the output of apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core? with any luck, the version you want will be listed too
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <erUSUL> !hostapp
[04:47] <pramz> Octavian`: http://www.cedega.com
[04:47] <poorenglish> Octavian`: or wine :o
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <Octavian`> :))
[04:48] <Hoxzer> hi, can somebody here help me with kino capture problem?
[04:48] <Octavian`> work software lake windows on ubuntu?:D
[04:48] <Hoxzer> I'm trying to use firewire to import video from Dvmini camera
[04:48] <LjL> Octavian`: sorry?
[04:49] <Octavian`> hmm
[04:49] <Octavian`> ba e vreun roman pe aici?:D
[04:49] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ill try that
[04:49] <Octavian`> LjL you run on linux ubuntu now?:D
[04:49] <Octavian`> :D
[04:49] <rod> LjL, it says the same thing 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:49] <BigToe> how come my DVD writer won't write CDs? It doesn't show up in K3b as a CD writer, only as a DVD writer, and no "do you want to make an audio/data CD" dialog pops up when I insert a CD.
[04:50] <Zaggynl> how do you rename a map so it becomes hidden? like wine -> .wine
[04:50] <rod> LjL, if i try to update it, it also says i'm using the last version
[04:50] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my new computer, but I'm having some problems (really a first for me with Ubuntu).  The mobo has an nforce 405 (MCP61S) chipset with an onboard RAID controler.  In the BIOS, I setup a RAID0 device.  When I put in my Ubuntu 6.10 CD, however, it doesn't seem to see any disks.
[04:51] <BigToe> !CD
[04:51] <BigToe> :\
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <BigToe> oh
[04:52] <Ignite> BigToe, is it you?!
[04:52] <BigToe> Ignite, what?
[04:52] <unperson> I assume I need a driver or something.  nVidia's site suggests that I need the sata_nv module, and lsmod shows that that driver is loaded, so I don't know what to do.
[04:52] <ericrost> hey all, I'm a Gentooer who's considering trying out ubuntu, how much support is there in the ubuntu installer for partitioning?
[04:52] <Ignite> BigToe, from xelix?
[04:52] <erUSUL> unperson: installing to a raid device is not an easy task...
[04:52] <jrib> Zaggynl: what do you mean by a "map"?
[04:52] <BigToe> Ignite, oh... definitely not >_>
[04:52] <erUSUL> !raid | unperson
[04:52] <Ignite> BigToe, oh
[04:52] <rod> LjL, i guess it's time to lose all i do have and reinstall :(
[04:52] <ubotu> unperson: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:52] <marlun> Anyone knows if its possible to see which LaTeX packages I've got installed on the computer right now?
[04:52] <BigToe> I don't know what the hell you're talking about *coughYkstort*cough*
[04:52] <rod> Ubuntu again
[04:53] <Zaggynl> jrib, que?
[04:53] <Ignite> :O
[04:53] <Zaggynl> jrib, oh, a folder
[04:53] <Una^> Hey, got a strange problem with xorg.. I have the resolution set to 1680x1050 but parts of the screen do not display, till you scroll across... any idea why that is?
[04:53] <pakito> where is the config file for proftp?
[04:53] <poorenglish> pakito: /etf/proftp?
[04:53] <jrib> Zaggynl: anything with a . in front is hidden.  If you just want to hide it in the File Browser, you can create a .hidden file in the same directory and put the name of the file in there
[04:53] <LjL> rod: hold on a while more, i'll search for something
[04:53] <Ignite> Una^, you have a virtual resolution set, it's just emulating that resolution because it can't display it, try turning it down a bit.
[04:53] <BigToe> :\
[04:54] <BigToe> how come my DVD writer won't write CDs? It doesn't show up in K3b as a CD writer, only as a DVD writer, and no "do you want to make an audio/data CD" dialog pops up when I insert a CD.
[04:54] <erUSUL> pakito: in /etc/ with all other conf files?
[04:54] <Zaggynl> jrib, okay, so it's not a folder name thing, but an attribute?
[04:54] <poorenglish> pakito: /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[04:54] <unperson> erUSUL, Thanks.  So far the only stuff I've seen for installing Ubuntu on a RAID was talking about a software RAID.
[04:54] <jrib> Zaggynl: nope
[04:54] <Una^> Ignite, it should be able to display that resolution though since it works in OSX
[04:54] <jrib> Zaggynl: it is a name thing, anything with a . in front is hidden
[04:54] <TimmyJ__> hey, I'm having a problem installing nvidia-glx package from amarenth's repo. I get this error: depends nividia-kernel-1.0.9629. The thing is it used to be fine until an update removed that package, now i can't reinstall
[04:54] <Ignite> Una^, sorry I don't have much experience with PPC.
[04:54] <Ignite> any*
[04:54] <frogzoo> BigToe: do you have the cd burning apps installed?
[04:54] <Una^> Ignite, its not PPC.
[04:54] <seshomaru> can anyone tell me how to submit a bug?
[04:54] <Ignite> Oh
[04:55] <BigToe> yes, frogzoo
[04:55] <Zaggynl> jrib, so, is there a easy CLI way to make a folder hidden?
[04:55] <jrib> !bugs | seshomaru
[04:55] <ubotu> seshomaru: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:55] <rod> LjL, thanks! i'll try to downgrade it because my video is not working..i mean... the screen is crazy,,.. it'shard to explain..
[04:55] <Ignite> Una^, do you have your video card driver installed?
[04:55] <Zaggynl> like rename wine .wine or something?
[04:55] <unperson> marlun, I think maybe you should be able to simply /usr/share/tetex-extra/latex or someplace like that and see directories for the packages included?
[04:55] <knoppix_> TimmyJ_ get the kernel package back
[04:55] <Una^> Ignite, sure.. its using i810
[04:55] <frogzoo> BigToe: permission problem maybe?
[04:55] <jrib> Zaggynl: mv foo .foo   But notice that "foo" is not the same as ".foo", anything that looks for "foo", won't find ".foo"
[04:55] <BigToe> I can use my old CD writer to burn DVDs but it's very tempramental, frogzoo
[04:55] <BigToe> frogzoo, how do I fix that?
[04:55] <daxxar> The following packages will be REMOVED: sysvinit
[04:55] <daxxar> Eep. :p
[04:56] <frogzoo> BigToe: ls -lL /dev/cdrom
[04:56] <TimmyJ> knoppix_, what kernel package? there is no nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629 package
[04:56] <Zaggynl> jrib, well I tried that, but because a .wine folder already existed, it created a folder inside .wine named wine
[04:56] <Hadarra> Is there a way to put html-page permanently on Gnome-desktop? Like a gdesklet?
[04:56] <LjL> rod: no, i'm afraid that 1.0.2-0ubuntu10 really is the lowest version currently available for Dapper...
[04:56] <Ignite> Una^, try the forum, or the wiki.
[04:56] <idea> xtknight: sorry. network outage :( um. issues with hamachi..
[04:56] <BigToe> frogzoo, brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-01-20 15:36 /dev/cdrom
[04:56] <idea> xtknight: will see if i can resolve them.
[04:56] <Una^> Ignite, the resolution also displays correctly in vesa driver so I assume its a driver problem.... yeah have been doing np
[04:56] <frogzoo> BigToe: ru member of cdrom group?
[04:56] <ericrost> anyone, does the Ubuntu install cd support partitioning? I know its supposed to be a "easy" installer so I just want to make sure I can migrate a Gentoo box easily (I've got everything partitioned up so I can just everything but /home)
[04:56] <BigToe> frogzoo, I don't think so...
[04:57] <Ignite> ericrost, yes.
[04:57] <LjL> rod: so basically, you did a normal upgrade because you were prompted by the automatic updater, and that broke your X. is that what happen?
[04:57] <knoppix_> TimmyJ so look for a repo where you can find it
[04:57] <BigToe> frogzoo, how do I become a member of cdrom group? I keep forgetting commands :S
[04:57] <rod> LjL, correct...
[04:57] <jrib> Zaggynl: can you explain what you are trying to do in a  little more detail?
[04:57] <seshomaru> hello?
[04:57] <ericrost> Ignite: thanks, do you know how the speed/responsiveness compares to gentoo on something like a 2 year old AMD sempron?
[04:57] <rod> aftar that... my screensaver is not working anymore
[04:57] <mbutUbuntu> hello folks
[04:57] <Mikelo> IdleOne: ok i switched to vesa in the xorg configuration, gdm login starts but it crashes when uname & pass are typed
[04:57] <BenPA> hi all ... does anyone know if there is a gui for mpop and msmtp or is there an easier program out there
[04:57] <xtknight> idea: sorry i'll have to help later
[04:57] <LjL> rod: hm is it just the screensaver?
[04:57] <mbutUbuntu> I need to install
[04:58] <xtknight> idea: i'll be on maybe in a couple hours, im not sure
[04:58] <Ignite> BigToe, run k3bsetup as root, that will allow you to fix any permission problems.
[04:58] <unperson> erUSUL, That help.ubuntu.com link about RAIDs looks WAY out of date.  It's talking about Warty and kernel 2.6.8
[04:58] <rod> LjL, no the entire pc..
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> ardour2 on my xubuntu 6.06 dapper
[04:58] <BigToe> hmm, k Ignite
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> but I can't find it on repo
[04:58] <rod> LjL, noe it's hard to see what is on the screen
[04:58] <idea> xtknight: ok. thanks for all your help so far.
[04:58] <Zaggynl> jrib, well I did this 'mv .wine wine-backup', and made a new .wine dir to mess around with, now I want to restore my wine-backup to .wine again
[04:58] <crimsun> mbutUbuntu: it's not in 6.06 LTS or 6.10
[04:58] <crimsun> mbutUbuntu: we're working on it for 7.04
[04:58] <rod> i'm with a big difficult to read and write here
[04:58] <Dame> !edgy
[04:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> what crimsun ??
[04:58] <crimsun> mbutUbuntu: Ardour2 betas are not in Ubuntu.
[04:58] <LjL> rod: hm, can you take a picture?
[04:58] <jrib> Zaggynl: so rename your current .wine to .wine-old (or whatever) and then rename wine-backup to .wine
[04:58] <mbutUbuntu> why not??
[04:59] <Zaggynl> jrib, ah okay, cheers
[04:59] <Zaggynl> jrib, with the command rename right?
[04:59] <rod> yes...  just a sec
[04:59] <Ignite> ericrost, Ubuntu is pretty damn responsive, I have a 2.66GHz Celeron and 256MB RAM and I can do quite a lot with just this. :P
[04:59] <jrib> Zaggynl: no, mv
[04:59] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[04:59] <jrib> Zaggynl: rename does batch renaming using regex
[04:59] <Dame> Is worth upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[04:59] <erUSUL> unperson: the correct how o is this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[04:59] <Zaggynl> hmm okay
[04:59] <Ignite> ericrost, but you'll probably not get faster than a well thought out Gentoo install, but the convenience easily outweighs it in my opinion.
[04:59] <Mikelo> basically after i input credentials on login screen it asks them again soon after )-:
[04:59] <LjL> Dame: if there is nothing that you need from Edgy, probably not
[05:00] <frogzoo> Ignite: edgy was a big improvement, dapper was a little sluggish
[05:00] <Dame> LjL, what edjy offers more?
[05:00] <Ignite> frogzoo, that'll be upstart.
[05:00] <frogzoo> Dame: for the desktop, absolutely
[05:00] <BigToe> Ignite, nope, still doesn't show up in k3b
[05:00] <ericrost> Ignite: ok, I went with Gentoo because of speed, but yeah, the involved config and all is driving me nuts, I've got a box with an Ati card in it, and it just doesn't want to behave :p
[05:00] <erUSUL> unperson: or this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidEdgy
[05:00] <rod> LjL, somtimes ... it gets ok.. the pic is ok..i mean... if hold for a moment.. the pic is ok... but the screen it getting crazy
[05:00] <LjL> !edgy | dame
[05:00] <ubotu> dame: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:00] <rod> LjL, it's a weird problem..
[05:01] <LjL> Dame: hm, i thought it listed the specifications too... hold on
[05:01] <ericrost> Ignite: I'm torrenting the desktop install cd in the backgrount
[05:01] <Ignite> BigToe, not a clue then, sorry.
[05:01] <Mikelo> !feisty
[05:01] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <frogzoo> Dame: the upgrade in gnome alone makes it worth it
[05:01] <Ignite> :)
[05:01] <BigToe> Ignite, I did get some X errors when I loaded k3b
[05:01] <mbutUbuntu> crimsun, must I upgrade ubuntu??
[05:01] <Ignite> BigToe, pastecode.com ;)
[05:01] <Dame> frogzoo, so I should upgrade
[05:01] <LjL> Dame: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy --- and of course, there are many updated packages too (some of which are broken, but)
[05:01] <Zamber> #ubuntu7,04
[05:01] <unperson> erUSUL, Thanks!  I'll take a look.
[05:01] <rockprincess> hello! i'm wondering if Ubuntu Feisty Fawn will get better support for BLUETOOTH
[05:01] <BigToe> Ignite, one step ahead... if it wasn't for my slow internet
[05:02] <cake> hey guys u know how i can control the spdif (via dxs#) ouput with the master volume control?
[05:02] <Ignite> BigToe, lol
[05:02] <frogzoo> Dame: personally I'd say clean install is cleaner & quicker in the long run
[05:02] <LjL> rod: perhaps try and see if Edgy solves that (you could try a live cd for starters)
[05:02] <ericrost> Ignite: is it a big deal under Ubuntu to run a patched kernel (ie the bluez patch I'm sure I'll need?)
[05:02] <Zamber> rockprincess, try kubuntu
[05:02] <rod> LjL, you right...
[05:02] <BigToe> Ignite, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2293/
[05:02] <erUSUL> unperson: no problem
[05:02] <rod> be right back... i guess i found something
[05:03] <Dame> frogzoo, I was going to ask that :) thanks
[05:03] <Ignite> ericrost, not really, but I wouldn't waiver from the default, it's pretty damn good for hardware support, if you do need to patch it, which I doubt, you can just install a vanilla or patch the ubuntu one as you would in Gentoo.
[05:03] <rockprincess> Zamber: i've Kubuntu 6.10 on my desktop computer and Edubuntu 6.10 on my laptop, but on both pairing seems disabled......i just dont get it working....
[05:03] <Ignite> ericrost, only without genkernel. ;)
[05:03] <ericrost> Ignite: I don't use genkernel
[05:03] <Ignite> :)
[05:04] <rockprincess> Zamber: and it's quite frustrating as I've been trying it for weeks now......
[05:04] <Zamber> !bluetooth
[05:04] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:04] <Zamber> ;] 
[05:04] <Hoxzer> !dv
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <rockprincess> Zamber: tried that ;)
[05:04] <Zamber> and?
[05:04] <Ignite> BigToe, that's just normal stuff, you'll always get that in the terminal from kde apps.
[05:04] <ericrost> Ignite: I've been rebuilding my kernel multiple times as I phase in my system with support for everything, but I had to use the bluez patch to get support for M$oft's wireless set for bluetooth
[05:04] <BigToe> Ignite, ah
[05:04] <Ignite> BigToe, not a clue why... but it happens.
[05:04] <Zamber> try agin -_-
[05:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> to install a patch, the code is: patch <~/winestuff/32mouse.patch (from ubuntu forum), what does the "<" sign mean in that command, thx alot for any help
[05:05] <unperson> erUSUL, Ah, so you believe that my system probably doesn't have an actual hardware RAID controller, but one of these fake RAIDs?
[05:05] <rockprincess> Zamber: are you sure this works for Edgy?
[05:05] <unperson> ...which would explain why Linux doesn't see it.
[05:05] <idea> xtknight: fwiw, now have hamachi running, but blank pass is invalid, apparently.
[05:06] <Zamber> rockprincess, I'm not sure if it's 100% working but I saw it working at my friends ;] 
[05:06] <antiNeo> this is an age old problem i've never figured out: I put my UT2004 disk in a friend's ubuntu machiene, and now I want it back. but whenever I try to unmount it, it says it's busy but I have no idea what's keeping it busy. is there something to force it to eject? it's driving me crazy
[05:06] <erUSUL> unperson: the raids that comes with motherboards are all fake raids. only high end raid cards actually comes with real hardware aided raid operations
[05:06] <BigToe> Ignite, just in case k3bsetup didn't do it, how do I manually join cdrom group?
[05:06] <ericrost> Ignite: can you rebuild stuff form source through the package manager in Ubuntu? I understand that its not the norm, but I got used to it with Gentoo
[05:07] <surgy_asleep> hello
[05:07] <frogzoo> antiNeo: fuser -c /media/cdrom/
[05:07] <Ignite> antiNeo, you can use the -l option, it'll do a lazy unmount, should let you have your disk, or try using the eject command.
[05:07] <erUSUL> unperson: read here http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#fakeraid
[05:08] <unperson> erUSUL, I see.  Thanks, that's very useful information.
[05:08] <vleon> i opened up myt pc, put out one memory stick, put it back, and then my sound card doest work O_O, ubuntu doesnt show it in the device manager, and i cheked every thing, the wires are in place
[05:08] <surgy> I need help configuring my xbox gamepad
[05:08] <erUSUL> unperson: no problem
[05:08] <Ignite> ericrost, you can do "apt-get build-dep <package name>" to install everything you need to build a package, then run "apt-get source <package name>" to download the source code for the package, apply the ubuntu patches and then you can compile it with no problems, I wouldn't see the point unless you're playing with the code though. ;)
[05:08] <unperson> erUSUL, So then the advantage over using a straight-up software RAID in Linux is minimal.
[05:08] <unperson> erUSUL, ...if any.
[05:09] <frogzoo> surgy: an interesting ubuntu problem...
[05:09] <vleon>  ned up myt pc, put out one memory stick, put it back, and then my sound card doest work O_O, ubuntu doesnt show it in the device manager, and i cheked every thing, the wires are in place
[05:09] <Mikelo> i am using to vesa in the xorg configuration, gdm login starts but it crashes when uname & pass are typed
[05:09] <BigToe> how do I become a member of the "cdrom" group?
[05:10] <surgy> frogzoo: yes
[05:10] <erUSUL> unperson: yes, but if you are dual booting with windows... you have no choice i guess
[05:10] <ericrost> Ignite: build it with hardware optimizations? since all the packages are built against a PII with PIII optimizations, just a little tweaky tweaky to get some more speed?
[05:10] <unperson> erUSUL, Not a problem for me.  My home is Windows free.
[05:10] <antiNeo> frogzoo: no luck... still sitting in the drive
[05:10] <Ignite> BigToe, usermod -G <groupname> -u <username>
[05:10] <surgy> frogzoo: can you help?
[05:10] <BigToe> thanks Ignite
[05:11] <unperson> erUSUL, Well...ok, that's sort of a lie.  I'm pretty sure there's a Win 2000 disk lying around somewhere in a stack of CDs somewhere.  :-)
[05:11] <Ignite> ericrost, I really doubt you'll need the extra speed, I personally find that most speed boosts from Gentoo come from not enabling features via the USE flags, thus having smaller programs...
[05:11] <ericrost> Ignite: but then again, maybe I should just let Ubuntu "just work" if I'm going to go w/it
[05:11] <Ignite> Yeah, that'd be a good idea. :P
[05:12] <vleon> ok how do i make my ubuntu use my pci sound card and not the onboard one?
[05:12] <ericrost> Ignite: and the package manager in ubuntu doesn't let you do that if you're building yourself?
[05:12] <surgy> frogzoo: oh that came out wrong its an xbox game pad modified to usb,
[05:12] <BigToe> Ignite, I got usermod: invalid numeric argument `bigtoe'... bigtoe is <username> btw
[05:12] <ericrost> Ignite: so you think I'll find that my hardware's decent enough to not worry about that lil extra bit of speed from the modular nature of USE flagged apps?
[05:13] <Ignite> ericrost, of course you can tweak the makefiles and such yourself, but there really is no point, apt is one of the best package management tools around, and the Debian/Ubuntu guys know what they're doing. :P
[05:13] <PSIplus> Ignite: Ack!!!
[05:13] <antiNeo> figured my problem out :-D
[05:13] <Ignite> BigToe, oh... man usermod.
[05:13] <Ignite> :P
[05:13] <erUSUL> unperson: then go for the software raid solution...
[05:14] <Ignite> ericrost, what are your specs? The stated system requirements for Ubuntu are just a 2GB HDD and 256MB RAM...
[05:14] <denver> do the ubuntu kernel modifications directly affect the functionality of the operating system? (can i compile a regular vanilla kernel and still get the same functionality that i get now?)
[05:14] <BigToe> ah Ignite
[05:14] <LjL> hm, the desktop version fits in 2Gb? barely, i'd think
[05:14] <unperson> erUSUL, Yes, that sounds like the thing to do.  Now I guess I have to do some reading.  Thanks again.
[05:14] <PSIplus> Ignite: Never want it the RPM-Way: One Package Format, one package per dist and again more packages per dist version and even then not enough and no good version and dep-checking...
[05:14] <BigToe> Ignite, cdrom0 (which is likely to be my DVD writer?) belongs to root, and file group root... should I sudo chown bigtoe /media/cdrom0
[05:15] <Ignite> denver, a lot of patches are applied for hardware support, and some binary blobs added, so you'll lose some functionality.
[05:15] <denver> thank you ignite
[05:15] <LjL> PSIplus: "One Package Format, one package per dist and again more packages per dist version" sounds precisely like Ubuntu tbh
[05:16] <Ignite> PSIplus, deb is like a giant family, you can grab an xandros package and install it in ubuntu for example.
[05:16] <cappiz> someone here ever tried luksOpen with a UUID instaed of /dev/device ?
[05:16] <erUSUL> unperson: no problem and good luck
[05:16] <cappiz> or made a ubuntu install on an encrypted USB-pen ?
[05:16] <Ignite> PSIplus, are you ericrost?
[05:17] <PSIplus> LjL: Sure, in ubuntu itself from point of view of very optimized packages... But think about other package sources: Because of good builds and good packages you have usually only ~one~ package for debian-based dists, and it works for all of them... But in RPM you got usually at least three versions (suse, redhat, mdk)
[05:17] <ericrost> Ignite: 2 systems: AMD Sempron 3000+, 512 MB Ram, 120GB HD, NVidia Nforce2 chipset Geforce4 graphics. Intel 2.4 GHz P4a, 1 GB Ram, 2 HDD's 120 GB and 160 GB, Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB All-In-Wonder
[05:17] <fred1234567890> testing
[05:17] <crit09> All: Can a university email account be configured in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[05:17] <PSIplus> Ignite: Exactly... I "upgraded" one of my servers from sarge to dapper without any major problems recently :->
[05:17] <LjL> PSIplus, that's not true at all. "optimized packages"? when? actually, the truth is that using a Debian package in Ubuntu, or vice versa, is very likely to break things, as is using, say, a Dapper package in Edgy or vice versa.
[05:18] <ericrost> Ignite: no I'm not PSIplus
[05:18] <LjL> making people believe the contrary isn't good for them
[05:18] <Ignite> ericrost, I seriously doubt you're going to have any speed problems, I barely have anything noticable on here and I have 256MB DDR RAM and a Celeron... if you _really_ want an added speed boost, adding the elevator=cfq kernel boot option has some radical effects. ;)
[05:18] <crit09> All: Can a university email account be configured in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[05:18] <Ignite> ericrost, lol okay.
[05:19] <LjL> crit09: if it's implemented through the standard POP3 or IMAP and SMTP protocols, sure
[05:19] <Lynoure> crit09: Depends on your university
[05:19] <crit09> LjL Lynoure: whats the best way to find out if it implements those standards
[05:19] <PSIplus> LjL: I use many dapper packages here, never seen a problem about it... I use debian for many years now, and most problems were caused by people using auto-generated dependencies in "control", and therefor denieing packages to be installed on other plattforms than the build-system... But that's only stupidity and can be resolved with the editor of your choice...
[05:20] <Lynoure> crit09: Actually they could still restrict it to univ. internal network... But that'd be rare.
[05:20] <ctothej> how is the ntfs-3g driver? can it write to ntfs reliably?
[05:21] <PSIplus> ctothej: Jep
[05:21] <Ignite> ctothej, http://linux-ntfs.org I believe is the URL.
[05:21] <jenda> Hear, hear! Ubuntu QUIZ in #ubuntu-trivia in 1 hour from now. Todays prize: Ubuntu Poster! You can't miss this!
[05:21] <Lynoure> crit09: How about the classic method of asking them for the server name and port?
[05:21] <crit09> Lynoure LjL: I just found out that it supports POP and IMAP protocols
[05:21] <NeoNmaN> i need help to Ubuntu whit VNC can i get help? :)
[05:21] <PSIplus> ctothej: It is shipped with edgy
[05:21] <Lynoure> crit09: Then you'll be fine :)
[05:21] <PSIplus> ctothej: apt-get install ntfs-3g ... Use it for a while now and never had any problems
[05:21] <crit09> Lynoure: What would be the next step ?
[05:21] <nolimitsoya> how do i migrate evolution mail from one home to another?
[05:22] <nolimitsoya> btw, cp -a .evolution didnt work...
[05:22] <ctothej> PSIplus: nice. is there anything I have to do to have it auto mount the ntfs drive instead of the current mounting app?
[05:22] <Lynoure> crit09: I do not have Thunderbird here but I recall it having a Add new mail accord wizard
[05:24] <crit09> Lynoure: Having known that it supports IMAP and POP, what's the best way to determine the port?
[05:24] <jenda> Today's QUIZ theme: General Expressions (and more)
[05:24] <humboldt> does the server release installer support evms lvm md setup?
[05:24] <PSIplus> ctothej: Not really... Just use -t ntfs-3g as filesystem with mount, or enter it in /etc/fstab as ntfs-3g... Usually all parameters are set well... You sometimes "should" set some locale parameter (see man mount.ntfs-3g for mor info about it) ... But usually it works out of the box...: # mount /dev/sda4 -t ntfs-3g /mnt/win32 ;-)
[05:24] <humboldt> how would I best setup a system with evms logical volumes?
[05:25] <Ndut2> hi guys
[05:25] <PSIplus> Hi Ndut2 ;-)
[05:25] <Amadeo> Where can I find a guide to getting more framerate out of my Nvidia card?
[05:25] <nolimitsoya> !lvm| humboldt
[05:25] <ubotu> humboldt: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:25] <Ndut2> can unbuntu run on intel celeron 600+ laptop with 128 mb and 7 gig drive ?
[05:25] <Lynoure> crit09: I think thunderbind can fill them for you if you choose the right protocol. You should try with SSL first and only without if you must
[05:25] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, yes, but i suggest xubuntu
[05:25] <Ndut2> may be with xfce running
[05:25] <ctothej> PSIplus: great thanks for the help
[05:25] <PSIplus> Ndut2: http://tuxmobile.org/
[05:26] <humboldt> nolimitsoya: no lvm or don't use lvm?
[05:26] <revan> hi, I've tried to install K3d and it's proven to be a pain in the ass. I've tried to remove it but it tells me to that the package is in such a bad condition I have to reinstall it. So when I try to reinstall it I get this:
[05:26] <revan> dpkg: error processing k3d (--install):
[05:26] <revan>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:26] <revan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:26] <revan>  k3d
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, you will need to install with the alternate cd
[05:26] <Ndut2> xubuntu ? i am new to ubuntu
[05:26] <Lynoure> crit09: Your university probably has people to walk you through this. Most even have howto on the web.
[05:26] <PSIplus> Ndut2: Usually yes, bot look there for sure
[05:26] <PSIplus> ctothej: You're welcome
[05:26] <Ndut2> how many version of ubuntu is there ?
[05:26] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, xubuntu is a version of ubuntu with the xfce wm
[05:27] <Trixsey> I recently got Ubuntu, any cool open source programs to recommend? I'm kinda new to this open source community but it seems awesome!
[05:27] <PSIplus> Ndut2: Currently there are 6.06 (LTS) somewhat "stable" released, "edgy" (6.10), cutting-edge-stable... (I use this) and "feisty", the beta-version
[05:27] <nolimitsoya> Ndut2, fluxbuntu is another, but its not an official branch and pretty rocky...
[05:27] <jrib> revan: what version of ubuntu?
[05:27] <PSIplus> Ndut2: "Version" ;-)
[05:27] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, tools for what?
[05:27] <Ndut2> hmm ic
[05:27] <Trixsey> nolimitsoya, cool programs :) I need inspiration :D
[05:27] <Trixsey> could be anything
[05:28] <PSIplus> Ndut2: But about the version you meant, I use kubuntu ( http://www.kubuntu.org/ ) for example
[05:28] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, you need to be specific. ubuntu contains >15000 packages
[05:28] <dime> amarok
[05:28] <Delux_247> hey yall, i got nvidia twinview set up but one minor problem, my program and start bar are on the right monitor and i want it on the left
[05:28] <Delux_247> so i just swap monitor cables
[05:28] <Trixsey> nolimitsoya, just funny programs, good media players.. programs you think of when you hear "good program" :P
[05:28] <Delux_247> ?
[05:28] <Trixsey> Anything really.. I could change from the programs I'm using to the ones suggested if they turn out to be good
[05:28] <Trixsey> I'm out to explore Ubuntu and the open source community
[05:28] <Trixsey> so.. anything is fine really..
[05:29] <dime> once again... .amarok
[05:29] <Trixsey> Beryl was cool.. I liked mplayer and it's ability to play almost any media with all codecs
[05:29] <Trixsey> to give a few examples :)
[05:29] <crit09> Lynoure: With your guidance I was able to configure the webmail account
[05:29] <PSIplus> Trixsey: I use Amarok... I love Amarok... Desperately ;-)
[05:29] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, abcde is a good cd ripper, lostirc is a good irc client, gxine is a good movieplayer etc
[05:29] <Lynoure> crit09: That's nice to hear :)
[05:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> trixsey vlc if u dont already have
[05:29] <PSIplus> Trixsey: It's the best player I ever used so far...
[05:29] <frogzoo> PSIplus: amarok only likes you cos you're rich
[05:30] <Lynoure> crit09: Have fun using it!
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> how do i migrate evolution mail from one home to another?
[05:30] <Balsamic_Chicken> trixsey gimp imagemagik etc
[05:30] <PSIplus> frogzoo: I already thought so... But I keep the bit** ;-)
[05:30] <dime> democracyplayer is nice for internet video
[05:30] <crit09> Lynoure: Thanks a bunch
[05:30] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: copy across the inbox file
[05:30] <Ndut2> hmmm
[05:30] <Trixsey> nolimitsoya, you'd rather go with lostirc than XChat?
[05:30] <christopherl> anyone know how to disable tooltips in Ubuntu 6.10 Gnome?
[05:30] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, wouldnt that be done when doing cp -a .evolution? in that case, it didnt work
[05:31] <nolimitsoya> Trixsey, yes, but thats just m
[05:31] <nolimitsoya> *me
[05:31] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: cp -r you mean
[05:31] <ccvp> (breaking news)(ap/reuters) - A nuclear bomb has went off in Tel Aviv, causing an estimated 5+ million deaths. Details Soon.
[05:31] <idea> frogzoo: any more ideas, mate?
[05:31] <Trixsey> Why is VLC preferred? I'm crazy about MPlayer :D
[05:31] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, no, cp -a
[05:31] <PSIplus> Trixsey: Kaffeine is even a good media player, because it is from my point of view one of the best xine frontends so far and one of the best standalone to watch DVB-TV under Linux
[05:31] <Trixsey> mplayer nogui is perfect.. no useless gui and supports pretty much any media
[05:31] <Trixsey> :D
[05:32] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, thing is, i want to sync the mail between several (linux) operatingsystems in a dual boot environment. hence, cp -a
[05:32] <PSIplus> Trixsey: Sure, I use it as well, but developement is getting slower... It has some known issues... And sound-Problem... I use it, but I try to replace it by something good now for some time
[05:33] <lazergunzpewpew> Hey guys =)
[05:33] <Trixsey> Amarok seems really cool
[05:33] <zbogdan> where does ubuntu mount its devices (/dev/cdrom, /dev/sda1 )?
[05:33] <christopherl> disable tooltips in Gnome?
[05:33] <AlexC_> hey hey
[05:33] <penfold_99> anyone used tinydns?
[05:33] <wastrel> zbogdan:  /media
[05:33] <PSIplus> zbogdan: /media by default
[05:33] <thug> hmm what domain name should i buy now ? regarding a email web server ? :)
[05:33] <roler> Is there a app for X that lists servers in a nice window for me to connect to? Primarily i'm looking for a list to connect via ssh, but other things like rdesktop and whatnot would be cool too
[05:34] <AlexC_> thug: how about "that-isn't-ubuntu-related.com"
[05:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> how do you install a .patch extension on ubuntu?
[05:34] <thug> AlexC_ tha`ll be it :)
[05:34] <lazergunzpewpew> Is there a preset command, to run Xchat in the terminal?
[05:34] <jrib> lazergunzpewpew: 'xchat'
[05:34] <nolimitsoya> zbogdan, /medoa/foo
[05:34] <lazergunzpewpew> i tried xchat ..
[05:35] <zbogdan> thanks PSIplus, wastrel!
[05:35] <nolimitsoya> sorry, that had been said already...
[05:35] <jrib> lazergunzpewpew: or do you mean without a gui and actually as a terminal application?
[05:35] <PSIplus> roler: kdessh
[05:35] <AlexC_> lazergunzpewpew: gnome-xchat
[05:35] <AlexC_> lazergunzpewpew: nope. hum!
[05:35] <AlexC_> lazergunzpewpew: ah, xchat-gnome
[05:35] <iuui> is there a way to proxy before connecting to irc?
[05:35] <lazergunzpewpew> >.<
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone?
[05:36] <revan> ...
[05:36] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: I don't think you want to install it
[05:36] <PSIplus> iuui: In what app gaim, xchat, .............?
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> y not
[05:36] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: what are you trying to do?
[05:36] <revan> Does anyone know how to do a dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq? I'm trying to get rid of a corrupt package
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> install a patch to fix kxdocker
[05:36] <iuui> psiplus- right now i'm using xchat, but it doesn't really matter
[05:36] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: take a look under .evolution/mail/local/Inbox - you should find your mail there in plain text
[05:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> from quinnstorm
[05:37] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: you'll probably need to get the source package, apply the patch, rebuild the package, install the package
[05:37] <PSIplus> iuui: There is an option ~somewhere~ for it, look in the server settings or general settings... I for myself use currently, just because it's handsome, gaim, there is a special tab for the settings
[05:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok how do i apply the patch i guess is what I am asking
[05:37] <lazergunzpewpew> That works fine :P , Also...
[05:37] <PSIplus> iuui: Why do you need a proxy for irc?
[05:37] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, i want to sync, not read. i want to transfer all settings as a whole, with filters and everything, making symlinks to an outside dir syncing all operatingsystems to one config
[05:38] <iuui> psiplus - is 'currently' an app?
[05:38] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having trouble with apache, can anyone help??
[05:38] <lazergunzpewpew> How do I install a theme for XMMS I've tried just simply dragging the extracted files into the theme folder. but an  error is thrown about " not having the correct permissions" ideas?
[05:38] <nfp|kelnoky> how can i see if my swap is active
[05:38] <jrib> [BTF] Chm0d: see 'man patch' and http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1237 , but usually:  patch -p0 < file.patch   see the man page for what -p does
[05:38] <pirx> hey! i copied the .inputrc that i used in gentoo, but it doesnt seem to be sourced in ubuntu. anyone who knows how to make my dear shortcuts work in the command line again?
[05:38] <iuui> psiplus - i got kicked off a forum :) i honestly didn't mean to, i put in a qoute, and the server thought i was flooding
[05:38] <AlexC_> Random_Transit: #apache
[05:38] <PSIplus> iuui: No, It's just a matter of grammar, I use gaim :-)
[05:38] <alin4lex> hello
[05:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx jrib
[05:38] <iuui> gotchya ;)
[05:39] <odnigmann> someone can help-me in wifi??
[05:39] <alin4lex> any grub expert?
[05:39] <AlexC_> odnigmann: no. Ask the question first
[05:39] <Zaggynl> Hi, I can't save the sounds in the dapper repo version of xchat2, can anyone help?
[05:39] <PSIplus> iuui: LoooL.... Wait for half an hour or hour, you'll most probably be unlocked then
[05:39] <nolimitsoya> alin4lex, ubotu knows a bit
[05:39] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: why not create a partition just for evolution, and mount that for the various OSs
[05:39] <revan> user@user-desktop:/home/user# dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq k3d
[05:39] <revan> dpkg: need an action option
[05:39] <humboldt> nolimitsoya: did you mean, the installed does not support LVM or you better don't use LVM?!
[05:39] <alin4lex> while booting it appears GRUB ERROR 21
[05:39] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, thats what im doing, but i need to know what files to copy. .evolution didnt do it
[05:39] <iuui> psiplus: that's what i thought too : ) but it's been a day so....btw i see gaim right now, and am going to give it a whirl - thanks :)
[05:40] <jrib> revan: you never answered my question
[05:40] <odnigmann> AlexC_ http://paste.raciocine.com.br/105
[05:40] <Ndut2> btw guys anyone here using linksys WPC54G wireless card ?
[05:40] <revan> jrib, mine isn't answered
[05:40] <revan> oh
[05:40] <nolimitsoya> humboldt, i gave you links to an lvm guide. read it. the !foo calls ubotu to rescue
[05:40] <revan> oops, what did you ask jrib?
[05:40] <jrib> revan: I'm trying to answer it, but I need information :)  What version of ubuntu?
[05:40] <odnigmann> AlexC_  i dont can connect with wifi
[05:40] <idea> frogzoo: any ideas?
[05:40] <MN12BIRD> n00b here w a quick Q!  would ubunto run fine on a duron 900 with little (128) RAM??
[05:40] <nfp|kelnoky> how can i see if my swap is active?
[05:40] <humboldt> ubotu: Thank's for the links to the docs. But they refere to Woody and Breezy. Anyhow, I know how to setup raid and LVM. I just want to know if the installer supports it and if it also supports EVMS.
[05:40] <AlexC_> odnigmann: I know nothing about wifi, sorry
[05:40] <lazergunzpewpew> Anyone know how to install XMMs themes?
[05:40] <roler> thanks PSIplus
[05:41] <revan> jrib, i'm runnig 6.10 edgy
[05:41] <Zaggynl> Hi, I can't save the sounds in the dapper repo version of xchat2, can anyone help?
[05:41] <nolimitsoya> !thank you | humboldt
[05:41] <ubotu> humboldt: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:41] <odnigmann> AlexC_  ok tnks
[05:41] <jrib> revan: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3d/+bug/64848  solution in comments
[05:41] <erUSUL> MN12BIRD: better try with xubuntu or even puppy linux
[05:41] <frogzoo> idea: did you take a look at the end of the strace to see what makes it crash?
[05:41] <Lynoure> nfp|kelnoky:  free   can tell how much of it is in use, that's about as active as active gets
[05:41] <PSIplus> iuui: Okay... Watch out to install the gaim-irchelper as well ... It's very usefull
[05:41] <iuui> pisplus - apt-get?
[05:42] <humboldt> nolimitsoya: ah, this is how you talk to the bot.
[05:42] <PSIplus> iuui: apt-get install gaim-irchelper
[05:42] <PSIplus> iuui: Or in synaptic, or in adept or in aptitude... wherever you like ;-)
[05:42] <idea> frogzoo: i ran an strace as you suggested, got the same error message as when trying to run "themes".. what else do i need to do?
[05:42] <humboldt> anyhow, my question is not yet answered. Is there evms setup support in edgy's installer?
[05:42] <idea> frogzoo: no prior with strace ;/
[05:42] <iuui> psiplus - lol :) that's the beauty of *nix, so many options...
[05:42] <PSIplus> iuui: I use gaim for nearly all my communications [except mailing ;-) ] 
[05:42] <frogzoo> idea: yes, but the strace was redirected to a temp file - just read the file with less
[05:43] <PSIplus> iuui: Yeah, for some it's the curse, but I love it
[05:43] <frogzoo> idea: 'strace gnome-theme-manager > /tmp/xxx 2>&1' - CRASH - less /tmp/xxx  - take a look at the end where the crash happens
[05:43] <kontingenz> is there a .config from my out-of-the-box edgy kernel? which I can use to compile a new one?
[05:43] <iuui> psiplus: yeah - i just connected, trying to figure it out. curse? definatly - but ubuntu is amazing, the great hope for a mainstream linux OS
[05:43] <revan> thanks jrib :D
[05:44] <frogzoo> kontingenz: try /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:44] <iuui> how long have you been using nix for?
[05:44] <erUSUL> kontingenz: sure in /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[05:44] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:44] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:44] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:44] <Dame> lol
[05:44] <kontingenz> frogzoo, erUSUL thanks!
[05:44] <PSIplus> iuui: Yep... Make yourself comftable with apt-get and apt-cache, and you'll never ever use a gui again ;-)
[05:45] <iuui> psiplus: famous last words :)
[05:45] <iuui> i got it, i'm in with gaim! thanks a million!
[05:45] <idea> frogzoo: ok.. opening file.. 275K.
[05:46] <uiiu> is gaim open source? and did you hear about AOL being free now?
[05:46] <UselessClown> yes
[05:46] <frogzoo> idea: '>' to skip to end of file
[05:46] <AlexC_> uiiu: yes Gaim is open source
[05:46] <LycoLoco> anyone around to help a noob out?
[05:46] <uiiu> hey - general poll for everyone here: what's your biggest quip with ubuntu?
[05:46] <idea> frogzoo: ok. i'm there.. what you needing?
[05:46] <AlexC_> LycoLoco: if you don't ask a question. No one will
[05:46] <uiiu> lycoloco: we'll do what we can :)
[05:46] <frogzoo> LycoLoco: we don't know what your problem is
[05:46] <LycoLoco> heh, ok
[05:47] <LycoLoco> I'm trying to copy over my profile from Firefox in Windows to Ubuntu
[05:47] <frogzoo> idea: look for errors, something that's causing your problem
[05:47] <AlexC_> What is it with people and asking for "help" we are _not_ physic, we can't tap into your brain and see what the problem is! So tell us!
[05:47] <LycoLoco> but no matter where I copy it, Firefox doesn't see the profile
[05:47] <LycoLoco> AlexC_, I just wanted to make sure people were around :-)
[05:47] <AlexC_> LycoLoco: there are 1006 users currently in ......
[05:48] <LycoLoco> true, I didn't notice that
[05:48] <AlexC_> =)
[05:48] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: copy it to ~/.mozilla/firefox and then edit profiles.ini
[05:48] <uiiu> lycoloco: don't really know much about that exactly, is the profile a single text file?
[05:48] <eXistenZ> Is there some kind of an applet of a terminal for the panel? to write commands fast, instead of launching the terminal every time I want to open a few
[05:48] <LycoLoco> uiiu, nah, it's a ton of files
[05:48] <eXistenZ> s/few/file
[05:48] <CraZy675> I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and I'd like to install Apache, PHP, MySQL do I just apt get them cause I don't see them in adept?
[05:48] <ccvp> eXistenZ
[05:48] <ccvp> guess what
[05:48] <fuoco> is there some app like idvd for linux?
[05:48] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, I copied it there, but what should I edit profiles.ini to have in it?
[05:48] <ccvp> TransCendenZ > eXistenZ
[05:48] <AlexC_> eXistenZ: yes, you can add terminal to panel, or sue alt+f2 to bring up run
[05:48] <ccvp> your application sucks
[05:48] <frogzoo> eXistenZ: you can use deskbar for that
[05:48] <ccvp> TransCendenZ > eXistenZ
[05:48] <ccvp> your application sucks
[05:48] <secreet> What is wrong? -bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: cannot execute binary file
[05:49] <idea> frogzoo: not familiar with the output.. worth pastebinning?
[05:49] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: In profiles.ini change Profile0, enter at "Path=" your profile
[05:49] <skold> hey guys do you know how to use xchat-systray?
[05:49] <LycoLoco> ok
[05:49] <christopherl> someone know if there are more Ubuntu repositories that you can add to synaptic?
[05:49] <ccvp> * * * * TRANSCENDENZ > EXISTENZ * * * *
[05:49] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Just change the path of the default existing profile to the folder name of your windows profile
[05:49] <AlexC_> christopherl: you can add as many as you want, you just gotta find them
[05:49] <CraZy675> is there an easier way of installing all at once?
[05:49] <Ndut2> hmm guys
[05:49] <frogzoo> !sources | christopherl
[05:49] <ubotu> christopherl: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:49] <pirx> damn, things dont seem to be compiled with readline-support in ubuntu, is that possible?
[05:50] <AlexC_> CraZy675: sudo apt-get install prog1 prog2 prog3 prog4
[05:50] <Ndut2> where can i see what package included with xubuntu ?
[05:50] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Works usually instantly... I share a profile between Win32 and Linux :-)
[05:50] <t1000> does someone know how to remove libmtp 1.1.3?
[05:50] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, that won't work if I want to update the profile, and I don't trust CaptureNTFS to write to my partition
[05:50] <frogzoo> !easysource | christopherl
[05:50] <ubotu> christopherl: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:50] <secreet> Can somebody please highlight me...
[05:50] <christopherl> thanks
[05:50] <adi_> hello
[05:50] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Capture Su** ... Use ntfs-3g
[05:51] <idea> frogzoo: shall i pastebin?
[05:51] <CraZy675> what do I apt-get for mysql?
[05:51] <uiiu> psiplus: nice to know there's a resident guru online right now, got a question for you...
[05:51] <frogzoo> idea: try 'ldd `which gnome-theme-manager` & see if there's any libraries missing
[05:51] <secreet> CraZy675: apt-get install mysql-common
[05:51] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, lemme change what I said then, I don't trust ANY NTFS writing utility in Linux, just because if something does happen in that 1% of the time when it screws up, I'm sunk
[05:52] <CraZy675> thanks
[05:52] <idea> frogzoo: ok
[05:52] <AlexC_> CraZy675: are you tring to setup Apache, MySQL and PHP?
[05:52] <LycoLoco> all I want to do is have Firefox recognize this new profile, and it just won't see it, even though I've copied everything just like the guides and whatever else have said
[05:52] <uiiu> psiplus: my regular login user can't save to floppy /etc/fstab is edited with rw, user...
[05:52] <goonies> i have a directory that i dont have permission to view on my system, im trying sudo cd but it says invalid command
[05:52] <PSIplus> uiiu: okay, ask ;-)
[05:52] <CraZy675> AlexC_: Yes
[05:52] <Mikelo> my gdm restarts after i insert uname & pass
[05:52] <AlexC_> CraZy675: ok hold on, let me get a link
[05:52] <uiiu> psiplus (thanks in advance) - and the mount point /floppy literally won't let me change permissions once the flop is mounted
[05:52] <CraZy675> awesome a link
[05:52] <idea> frogzoo: can't see any errors there.. should i if stuff is missing?
[05:52] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: ntfs-3g doesn't screw up. try out.
[05:52] <CraZy675> the bot should know that link
[05:52] <Ndut2> Xubuntu Mirrors (6.10 Edgy Eft):
[05:53] <CraZy675> !LAMP
[05:53] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:53] <Ndut2> Xubuntu Mirrors (6.06.1 Dapper Drake LTS): ?
[05:53] <AlexC_> CraZy675: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:53] <t1000> does someone know how to remove libmtp 1.1.3?  i compiled it but need  to install an earlier version
[05:53] <jenda> Ubuntu QUIZ in 30 minutes in #ubuntu-trivia. Today's theme: Regular Expressions (and more!). Today's prize: Ubuntu Poster! (Sponsored by jrib)
[05:53] <uiiu> i chmod before i mount, and then it reverts once mounted. so i can't save anything to the floppy (write) unless i'm root.
[05:53] <frogzoo> idea: you'd see a LHS with no => RHS
[05:53] <Judicata> goonies: if you're very careful you can use "sudo bash" and do whatever - but I it is not recommended.
[05:53] <CraZy675> yuppers
[05:53] <PSIplus> uiiu: Is it vfat-floppy or minix floppy?
[05:53] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, I don't trust it with my data that I haven't backed up. now, if I could get some help with getting firefox to recognize this profile... :-)
[05:53] <Ndut2> guys can recommend me which one to get and what actually the different ?
[05:53] <goonies> i remember there was a command to become root for a while
[05:53] <goonies> not just on one command
[05:53] <mirak> does opening in a terminal works for you in nautilus ?
[05:53] <Ndut2> 6.10, codename Edgy Eft (stable release)
[05:53] <Ndut2> 6.06.1, codename Dapper Drake (stable release), with Long Term Support.
[05:54] <frogzoo> LycoLoco: there are ff backup progs, might be best
[05:54] <Ndut2> it alll say stable release is it just the different with long term support ?
[05:54] <uiiu> psiplus: is vfat
[05:54] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Well... Usually it works how I told you, just copy over the folder and enter it in profile.ini as path
[05:54] <Math^> hello, someone using gnome-commander?
[05:54] <Judicata> goonies: that has the same effect - it opens a bash (the command line) with root privileges.
[05:54] <LycoLoco> ok
[05:54] <idea> frogzoo: all looks good.
[05:54] <uiiu> psiplus: hey btw, don't let me overwhelm you here, i thought everything was cleared up with lyco, my bad ;)
[05:54] <mrnysegy1981> Hi all, I'm a real newb. I'm having a problem getting wireless to work. I have a Latitude c640. I'm running networkmanager 0.6.2. I have installed ndiswrapper. I've tried wireless with a PCMCIA  Buffalo card, USB LInksys, USB Netgear. No luck with any of them and I have installed all their drivers using ndiswrapper. Any help would be really great.
[05:54] <PSIplus> uiiu: Well, then add an mount-option in fstab: umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,gid=46,rw
[05:55] <LycoLoco> uiiu, it's cool :-) no worries
[05:55] <Math^> i cant change mod files in some ftp sites with gnome-commander
[05:55] <Math^> it says: no options for it
[05:55] <uiiu> thanks guys (gals?) :)
[05:55] <PSIplus> uiiu: (gid 46 is in ubuntu by default the plugdev-group) ... add yourself to the plugdev-group
[05:55] <mirak> what can I use to write a VIDEO_TS folder on a DVD and make it playable in a DVD player ?
[05:55] <Math^> but in gftp its no problem
[05:55] <Math^> or lftp
[05:55] <mirak> what can I use to write a VIDEO_TS folder on a DVD and make it playable in a DVD player ?
[05:55] <PSIplus> uiiu: next time you mount the floppy, you have full write-permissions, even as user
[05:55] <mrnysegy1981> Hi all, I'm a real newb. I'm having a problem getting wireless to work. I have a Latitude c640. I'm running networkmanager 0.6.2. I have installed ndiswrapper. I've tried wireless with a PCMCIA  Buffalo card, USB LInksys, USB Netgear. No luck with any of them and I have installed all their drivers using ndiswrapper. Any help would be really great.
[05:55] <pirx> does anyone know how i can recompile a package with readline support?
[05:56] <PSIplus> uiiu: add "user" to options in fstab if you want to be able to mount it as user
[05:56] <AlexC_> mrnysegy1981: please wait more than 1 min to re-ask your question.
[05:56] <Judicata> mrnysegy1981: you might want to wait a few more minutes before repeated again...
[05:56] <Math^> ...nobody using gnome-commander?
[05:56] <Judicata> mrnysegy1981: Chances are, if someone knows they're away or busy, and if you wait a bit and ask again, someone might come along.
[05:56] <PSIplus> uiiu: example: /dev/fd0       /media/floppy    vfat    umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,g
[05:56] <PSIplus> id=46,noauto,rw,user,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850        0 0
[05:57] <uiiu> psiplus: perfectly explained - thanks. i'll give it a shot. to add myself to another group, i can use SU?
[05:58] <PSIplus> uiiu: That's how I do It on my [edgy]  workstation... Note the "iocharset" and "codepage"-setting, they are very usefull if you use UTF-8-System (by default in ubuntu) and have filenames with special chars (german umlauts for example - )
[05:58] <PSIplus> uiiu: sudo? sure
[05:58] <idea> frogzoo: what if i installed kde instead? would that fix the issues? ;)
[05:58] <PSIplus> uiiu: Well you can use ~any~ group you like
[05:59] <PSIplus> uiiu: It's just that plugdev is the group for this kind of job in ubuntu ;-) ...
[05:59] <ckagy> i'm having some trouble doing an installation of 6.1 server and am looking for some advice on what to try next
[05:59] <uiiu> psiplus: ahh... gotchya - thanks :). so i edit fstab, then put myself in the group....i'll try that now.
[06:00] <AlexC_> ckagy: I think what you could try next is asking a question, or telling us what trouble youre having!
[06:00] <frogzoo> idea: how'd it break in the first place?
[06:00] <PSIplus> uiiu: Don't forget to re-login to make the group change apply... have fun!
[06:00] <linker2u> wht are +c and +n mode
[06:00] <uiiu> psiplus: awwwesome! :) will do, and thanks again.
[06:00] <mrnysegy1981> Hi all, I'm a real newb. I'm having a problem getting wireless to work. I have a Latitude c640. I'm running networkmanager 0.6.2. I have installed ndiswrapper. I've tried wireless with a PCMCIA  Buffalo card, USB LInksys, USB Netgear. No luck with any of them and I have installed all their drivers using ndiswrapper. Any help would be really great.
[06:01] <ckagy> i'm installing on an older athlon xp system, based on a via km266 chipset.  i've tried various combinations of boot params (acpi=off, agp=off, noapic, nolapic, pci=noacpi) and i get either a kernel panic or the install begins, but hangs
[06:01] <ckagy> usually, if it hangs, it is when it is instaling the base system
[06:02] <idea> frogzoo: after a dist-upgrade
[06:02] <PSIplus> ckagy: Does knoppix work?
[06:02] <Math^> NOONE USING GNOME-COMMANDER???
[06:02] <linker2u> stat /p
[06:02] <wastrel> what's gnome comander?
[06:02] <Math^> rofl
[06:02] <nitromaster> hi guys
[06:02] <AlexC_> morning,
[06:02] <nitromaster> hi
[06:02] <nitromaster> hi
[06:02] <ckagy> PSIplus: knoppix will boot, but when it starts up X i usually get a SIGTerm
[06:02] <Math^> just something like midgnight-commander and tux-commander
[06:02] <t1000> someone here that can hep me with libmtp?
[06:03] <frogzoo> idea: have you tried searching launchpad? probably a known issue
[06:03] <AlexC_> t1000: ask the question!!!!
[06:03] <PSIplus> ckagy: What gfx-card do you have?
[06:03] <ckagy> i'm tring to install 6.1 server specifically so that i don't mess with x at first
[06:03] <t1000> ok sorry
[06:03] <tdoggette> #schooltool
[06:03] <AlexC_> Arrrrggghhh, why do people insist on not asking the question. Don't ask to ask a question, just ask the blimming question :P
[06:03] <t1000> does someone know how to remove libmtp 1.1.3?  i compiled it but need  to install an earlier version
[06:03] <PSIplus> ckagy: Good... You can try the following:
[06:03] <ckagy> i've got a gforce 2 mx400, and have turned disabled the onboard video
[06:03] <Mikelo> my gdm restarts after i insert uname & pass
[06:04] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone here know about wireless networking?
[06:04] <AlexC_> t1000: sudo apt-get remove libmtp   should remove it,
[06:04] <idea> frogzoo: i've looked all over google. no real answers, other than to totally hose my schemas.
[06:04] <PSIplus> ckagy: 1. Boot in knoppix, using flag: "knoppix 2" ... make partitioions, make filesystems, mount them
[06:04] <ckagy> PSIplus: okay
[06:05] <PSIplus> ckagy: 2. debootstrap... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[06:05] <PSIplus> ckagy: Use it ~like this~, make a base installation
[06:05] <ChrisCarey> hi
[06:05] <AlexC_> hello,
[06:05] <expensivenode> hello
[06:05] <PSIplus> ckagy: chroot to it, install kernel, install grub, make it bootable (install-grub)
[06:05] <ckagy> PSIplus: checking the URL now
[06:05] <ChrisCarey> #@$!
[06:06] <frogzoo> idea: possibly...: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1164346&postcount=11
[06:06] <odnigmann> why my interface network in ifconfig is eth1 and in iwconfig is eth1 too
[06:06] <odnigmann> dont have problem?
[06:06] <PSIplus> ckagy: The howto in the wiki is make for chroot-envs, but It works nearly the same way for normal systems...
[06:06] <t1000> alexC it was installed manually by typing ./configure, make, make install, so that does not work
[06:06] <PSIplus> ckagy: man debootstrap is a fine manual as well
[06:06] <AlexC_> t1000: I see, I'm not sure then
[06:07] <mrnysegy1981> LInux is really not ready for general use. I'm having a hell of a time getting everything working. I'm just about ready to go back to windows
[06:07] <AlexC_> mrnysegy1981: then stop trolling and go back.
[06:07] <variant> 1000 nicks.. not bad
[06:07] <wastrel> mrnysegy1981:  it's still got problems but it's worlds easier than it used to be
[06:07] <frogzoo> mrnysegy1981: there's a steep learning curve, but there was for doze, you just don't recall
[06:07] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: LOL!
[06:07] <idea> frogzoo: thanks. let me check that
[06:07] <AlexC_> mrnysegy1981: you can not complain that Linux is not ready when you've spent 10 mins in IRC, which no one has been able to help you
[06:07] <mrnysegy1981> I've been working on this wireless problem for 3 days and can't get it done
[06:07] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: You are free to do so :-) ... You are not forced to do anything arround here
[06:08] <wastrel> mrnysegy1981:  that's really the fault of your wireless vendor not providing a linux driver.
[06:08] <frogzoo> !wifi | mrnysegy1981
[06:08] <ubotu> mrnysegy1981: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:08] <wastrel> not linux per se
[06:08] <variant> mrnysegy1981: yeah, wireless is still imature in gnu/linux.. blame the manufacturers
[06:08] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: Wirelesss su** in general... WinXP SP2 has pretty similar problems ...
[06:08] <mrnysegy1981> i've tried three separate wireless cards and installed ndiswrapper, but no luck
[06:08] <wasabi_> Howdy. I have two sound cards. Both are using alsa, and the oss emulation. Configuring alsa to use one by default is easy... what about configuring oss to use one by default? Basically right now I'm manually renaming /dev/dsp1 to /dev/dsp. That sucks.
[06:09] <AlexC_> ok, when someone says they've tried three they usualy mean 1
[06:09] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: Why ndiswrapper? isn't there even one of your cards running with native linux drivers?
[06:09] <mrnysegy1981> tried a linksys usb nic a netgear usb nic and a buffalo pcmcia nic
[06:09] <variant> mrnysegy1981: which cards (include model numbers)
[06:09] <frogzoo> pshaw - my ipw2200 has always worked perfectly - the intel wifi stuff is great
[06:09] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: Fine. What chipsets do they have?
[06:09] <wastrel> <3 ipw2200
[06:09] <wastrel> yup
[06:10] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: The Product-names are worth nothing
[06:10] <funkyHat> My swap partition keeps getting corrupted/broken somehow (meaning I have to mkswap again before I can use it, then update the UUIDs in fstab and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume)... anyone else found this? (it does seem to be hibernate that's doing it)
[06:10] <mrnysegy1981> linksys wusbf54g, netgear wg111, buffalo wli-cb-g54a
[06:10] <mrnysegy1981> how do i find out what chipset they have
[06:11] <Judicata> hey, is there somewhere that lists what is in each repository? (I'd like to see a list of what is included in the non-free repo).
[06:11] <frogzoo> funkyHat: dude, you so have a failing disk there - install smartmontools
[06:11] <ajopaul_> any file recovery tool for reiserfs filesystem??
[06:11] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: lsusb -v prints you details about usb devices
[06:11] <mzanfardino> how do I setup my five-button microsoft mouse to work properly?
[06:11] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: gimme a sec, I look afer the netgear, guess it works with a native-driver
[06:11] <mbutUbuntu> hi I was installing all dependencies for ardour from sources packages
[06:11] <frogzoo> !mouse | mzanfardino
[06:11] <ubotu> mzanfardino: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:12] <mbutUbuntu> I installed glib 2.12.0
[06:12] <mbutUbuntu> but atk 1.9 requires glib 2.5.7
[06:12] <mzanfardino> domo arigoto, mr. ubotu... :)
[06:12] <t1000> does someone know how to remove manually installed libmtp 1.1.3?  i compiled it but need  to install an earlier version
[06:12] <mbutUbuntu> what can I do??
[06:12] <bronze_0_1> !video
[06:12] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:12] <jrib> t1000: what command did you use to install it
[06:13] <bronze_0_1> awsome. Good bot!
[06:13] <kiamo> heya
[06:13] <kiamo> how do I play dvds? lol
[06:13] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: as I thought, It's a prism54... You don't need ndiswrapper... See this: http://www.prism54.org/newdrivers.html
[06:13] <mrnysegy1981> thank you
[06:13] <t1000> jrib, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[06:14] <jrib> t1000: you can try make unisntall from the source directory but it is not guaranteed to exist
[06:14] <mrnysegy1981> i tried the lsusb -v and I didn't see the chipset there
[06:14] <AlexC_> kiamo: install more codecs, hold on
[06:14] <revan> jrib, I saw the bug report but I don't know what to do witht he .debdiff file
[06:14] <kiamo> :) thanks alex ;)
[06:14] <ajopaul_> any file recovery tool for reiserfs filesystem?? am on edgy?
[06:14] <AlexC_> kiamo: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/music.html
[06:14] <jrib> revan: did you see the last comment?
[06:14] <t1000> ok, thanx
[06:14] <bronze_0_1> !wmv
[06:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <kiamo> thanks ill take a look ;)
[06:14] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: However; support out-of-the-box isn't fully working for all the crap yet (but that's not only a GNU/Linux fault, but more the vendor's mess) ... It's getting better... Just try googling arround, you should find solutions quickly
[06:15] <revan> jrib, yes I did but that didn't work. it says the /usr/bin/pythoncentral folder doesn't exist :o
[06:15] <PSIplus> mrnysegy1981: And when it works, use tools like "wlassistant" and "kwlan"
[06:16] <odnigmann> please.. dont ping when i unplug the cable ethernet and use the wifi conection with kwifimanager
[06:16] <revan> jrib: mv: cannot stat `/usr/bin/pythoncentral': No such file or directory
[06:16] <bronze_0_1> odnigmann: is that a question?
[06:16] <odnigmann> yes
[06:17] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, could I get a little more help on the firefox profile issue?
[06:17] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 i dont connet
[06:17] <bronze_0_1> could you rephrase it please?
[06:17] <Hoag> Hey. Is there a way to copy and paste files and text from the Terminal Server Client? I can copy and paste fine within it, but not from the remote computer to my own, etc/
[06:17] <jrib> revan: he made a typo, it should be pycentral not pythoncentral
[06:17] <idea> frogzoo: man! you are a hero! i can launch "themes" now :) i guess i need to logout to see if the menu issue is fixed?
[06:17] <revan> oh, ok
[06:17] <Mikelo> my gdm crashes after i insert uname & pass, i am using vesa driver
[06:17] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 i use the kwifimanager..
[06:17] <frogzoo> idea: cool, yep relog & see
[06:18] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Yep... So... Did you copy the profile dir over? Let's make the example: Copy the profle over (just the folder with extensions.ini and so on in it) ... rename it to "zero" (just an easy to remember name)
[06:18] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Then use the profile name I'll paste to you as msg
[06:18] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, yeah, lemme show you what I've done
[06:18] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 i use him..  but dont ping
[06:19] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 , i do this..  iwconfig eth1 essid
[06:19] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Okay, showme...
[06:19] <revan> thanks a millino jrib! :D
[06:19] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 but when i unplug the cable ethernet and use de wifi.. dont have connection
[06:19] <freakynl> heya, have a strange issue right after booting (on battery) or unplugging my laptop from ac the battery monitor will say i have only 2 minutes left (and it just to shutdown then but changed config) with 93% battery power. after a little while it will say 1 and 50 minutes or so any ideas?
[06:20] <ctothej> ubuntu uses GTK desktop envornment right?
[06:20] <LycoLoco> PSIplus, got it working - not sure why it wouldn't take before, but now it did
[06:20] <LycoLoco> thanks!
[06:20] <PSIplus> LycoLoco: Thougth so ;-) ... Have Fun!
[06:20] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 ..
[06:20] <idea> frogzoo: thanks so much. all working great now!
[06:20] <frogzoo> idea: please consider updating the bug report: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf2/+bug/50150
[06:21] <ferus> Hello
[06:21] <t1000> jrib, make uninstall did not work anything else i can try?
[06:21] <idea> frogzoo: never used that before. but i'll take a  look
[06:21] <Dame> !ati
[06:21] <ctothej> why isnt the gnome-desktop-environment installed by default with Ubuntu?
[06:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:21] <bronze_0_1> odnigmann: I've never used wi-fi. I asked you to rephrase because I couldn't tell what you were asking for, Hopefully someone in the channel can help
[06:21] <idea> frogzoo: one more thing.. any easy way to (auto)mount my ntfs partitions?
[06:22] <frogzoo> !ntfs | idea
[06:22] <ubotu> idea: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:22] <bronze_0_1> odnigmann: I do undertsand what you are asking for now.
[06:22] <ferus> I have a problem
[06:22] <PSIplus> ferus: really?
[06:22] <odnigmann> bronze_0_1 ok tnks
[06:22] <idea> frogzoo: thanks for your help. appreciate that immensely :)
[06:22] <eyalw> need help with apt. i have an update waiting in the update manager for sometime now that always errors when i try to perform it. its called: wpasupplicant (client support for WPA.... from verison 0.5... to...) and i cant get rid of it ?????
[06:23] <jenda> The QUIZ in #ubuntu-trivia is about to start! Ready, get set, GO! Today's Prize: Ubuntu Poster! Theme: Regular Expressions (and more)
[06:23] <bronze_0_1> ferus: Dont ask to ask, dont ask "can someone help me", Just ask your question. someone will chime in if they can help
[06:23] <frogzoo> idea: yw, enjoy
[06:24] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone know of a way for me to find out the chipset on any nic I plug in?
[06:24] <bronze_0_1> lspci?
[06:24] <ferus> my problem is -> I have Firefox and i  don't  have a settings page,  but i would to change my settings
[06:24] <ferus> what i must do?
[06:24] <eyalw> need help with apt. i have an update waiting in the update manager for sometime now that always errors when i try to perform it. its called: wpasupplicant (client support for WPA.... from verison 0.5... to...) and i cant get rid of it ?????    help
[06:24] <nitromaster> #schooltool
[06:24] <freakynl> ferus: ? no settings page? try about:config
[06:24] <bronze_0_1> ferus: try about: config in the address bar?
[06:24] <PSIplus> ferus: No settings-dialogue? Why that?
[06:24] <ferus> but i'm n00b in linux,
[06:24] <Trixsey> I'm new to Ubuntu and the open source community, and I'm exploring its wounders. If anyone could recommend cool open source programs I'd be really happy! Any recommendations is fine, I'm out to explore the open source community in general!
[06:25] <PSIplus> ferus: What's wrong with your fox?
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> ferus: Press F9\
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> "F9"
[06:25] <ferus> inothing
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> ferus: ficed?
[06:25] <PSIplus> ferus: Ther isn't any "Edit" -> "Settings" Dialogue?
[06:25] <bronze_0_1> er "Fixed"?
[06:26] <ferus> nothing...
[06:26] <SuperMario> !addon
[06:26] <Hoag> Hey. Is there a way to copy and paste files and text from the Terminal Server Client? I can copy and paste fine within it, but not from the remote computer to my own, etc/
[06:26] <Judicata> Trixsey: well, its impossible to know where to start. What OS are you running?
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <trev_> when i run tremulous isntalled from synaptic it is very slow but when i run the .run file from the games website it is fast, does anyoen know hwy?
[06:26] <freakynl> edit -> preferences, there is not settings
[06:26] <bronze_0_1> ferus: do you have any menubar in ff?
[06:26] <dime> Trixsey
[06:26] <dime> gaim for messaging
[06:27] <SupreMe_Gnu> hello! what's the command to mount .img files? doesn't seem to be the same as .iso files. Thanks
[06:27] <dime> ekiga for voip
[06:27] <SushiP> Could someone please help me with a usb modem driver package problem?
[06:27] <PSIplus> ferus: That's strange... maybe you should remove your profile and restart a new one? try this: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[06:27] <erUSUL> !anyone
[06:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:27] <Judicata> there is a library of Free (FOSS) software.... just don't add the non-free repositories and play around, and you'll be set.
[06:28] <zeasier> i'm writing a script to sync local files with a web gallery. i need to tell the server that the sync is finished so it can post process. what command can i use to request an url and display it to the terminal?
[06:29] <SushiP> Mmkay, I'll rephrase my question. Does anyone here have experience with EciAdsl and can help me to get it working?
[06:29] <CarlFK> fiend asked me to do "setenv CVSROOT" but I get -bash: setenv: command not found
[06:29] <erUSUL> zeasier: wget ? curl?
[06:29] <zeasier> erUSUL: oh yeah, curl. i'll look into that thanks
[06:29] <Judicata> CarlFK: gotta watch those fiends :)
[06:30] <SupreMe_Gnu> is there no way to mount .img files in linux?
[06:30] <uiiu> psiplus: the floppy works fine now, thank you SO much. i still don't know what exactly i did to fstab :), but i'm googling to learn more....
[06:30] <CarlFK> zeasier: why do you need "display it to the terminal"  ?
[06:30] <variant> SupreMe_Gnu: yes there is
[06:30] <skvn> how can i change my system locale to ISO 8859-1?
[06:30] <bob535> Grrr, something is really messed up on my machine. Ever since I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy
[06:30] <CarlFK> SupreMe_Gnu: you can mount anything. what is it?
[06:31] <freakynl> SupreMe_Gnu: mount /path/to.img /mnt/somedir -t iso?
[06:31] <SupreMe_Gnu> variant, ok, i'll try that, thanks
[06:31] <bob535> A lot of my programs stopped working, including synaptic
[06:31] <PSIplus> uiiu: Yah... Have a look at the manpage (man fstab and man mount), it's explained there pretty good... You're welcome... :-) ...
[06:31] <zeasier> CarlFK: i'd just like some feed back that post processing worked
[06:31] <CarlFK> SupreMe_Gnu: mount -o loop fool.iso somewhere/
[06:31] <variant> SupreMe_Gnu: mount -t iso9660 file.img /tmp/file -o loop
[06:31] <kyja> I have that trouble sometimes and have to restart
[06:31] <CarlFK> assuming .img is an iso :)
[06:32] <CarlFK> zeasier: what someone said: curl
[06:32] <SuperMario> porn
[06:32] <danilo287> i just installed beryl on edgy with the nvidia driver and now i cant move any of my windows and some of the screen is distored.... anyone know how to fix this
[06:32] <danilo287> i did sudo apt-get remove beryl but i still have the problem
[06:32] <freakynl> anyone know why tahoma isn't included with corefonts?
[06:33] <Smirno1> whats "automagic" login mean when you go to Login settings
[06:33] <riotkittie> danilo287: does restarting X help ?
[06:33] <freakynl> Smirno1: i think no authentication it just logs you on
[06:33] <juano> SupreMe_Gnu: sudo mkdir /media/isofile
[06:33] <skvn> how can i change my system locale to ISO 8859-1?
[06:33] <danilo287> nope.... i tried doing ctrl alt backspace and it doesnt help
[06:33] <juano> SupreMe_Gnu: then sudo mount file.iso /media/isofile/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:34] <bclinch> can anybody please tell me the absolute minimum requirements for ubuntu?
[06:34] <Smirno1> How do I login a user automatically when I turn on my computer
[06:34] <Judicata> danilo287: remember that beryl is beta (and some people have had problems with the latest update, I hear)
[06:34] <kyja> final solution is to push and hold powerbutton. ad hope it repairs on restart
[06:34] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: modify the gdm options
[06:34] <zeasier> i'm displaying this script in a gnome-terminal, but it closes when the script is finished. is there something like a special character i can output to stop the terminal from outputing so you can see what happened?
[06:34] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: yeah but to what
[06:34] <variant> bclinch: you could install and use it on a pentium (1) but it will be pos
[06:34] <CarlFK> bclinch: im gona 386, 32mb ram 350mb disk
[06:35] <variant> !requirements
[06:35] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: enable autologin and specify the user
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <juano> zeasier: how bout saving it to a file?
[06:35] <Judicata> CarlFK: setenv is a C shell command, so you gotta run it in a C shell.
[06:35] <CarlFK> Judicata: thanks
[06:35] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: open a terminal to the shell,  execute the script and pipe it into less
[06:35] <variant> bclinch: ubuntu is'nt really a distro for very low spec machines.. there are a bunch out there that will perform much much better
[06:35] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: eg script | less
[06:35] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: the user i want isnt showing up in the drop down ???
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: you want root? (bad boy!)
[06:36] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: no i want mythtv
[06:36] <zeasier> bronze_0_1: ah alright
[06:36] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: why the fuck would i want root lol
[06:36] <variant> bclinch: xubuntu is quite good for lower spec systems though
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> aha - good Boy!
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: is mythtv a valid user right now?
[06:36] <eyalw> need help with apt. i have an update waiting in the update manager for sometime now that always errors when i try to perform it. its called: wpasupplicant (client support for WPA.... from verison 0.5... to...) and i cant get rid of it ?????    help
[06:36] <Judicata> bclinch: if xubuntu doesn't work, try "damn small linux"
[06:36] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: yeah i login as him all the time
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: look in the gdm text config file
[06:36] <rmorris84> what is a *.run file? and how do I do anything with is?
[06:37] <bronze_0_1> /etc/X/gdm/... somewhere in there
[06:37] <CarlFK> what port does cvs server listen on?
[06:37] <bclinch> variant: It's a 600mhz, 6gb, 128mb laptop, would ubuntu run smooth on that? I'm used to ubuntu really, so it's nice to stick to it
[06:37] <variant> rmorris84: chmod +x /path/tofile.run && ./file.run
[06:37] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: edit the config file by hand, read thru the comments carefully to setermine what to change
[06:37] <trev_> all of a suden none of my 3d games will run fast, are there any new nvideo issues?
[06:37] <CarlFK> bclinch: the 128 is going to hurt, but just a bit
[06:37] <variant> bclinch: it would run yes, a little slow though
[06:37] <variant> bclinch: try xubuntu you wil lhave better experience
[06:38] <juano> bclinch: i suppose it will run fairly yes
[06:38] <n2diy> bclinch: the ram is on the low side, otherwise your ok.
[06:38] <The_Belgain> hi there - quick question.  how do i get a given background app to get autostarted when ubuntu start up?
[06:38] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: haha stupid GUI wouldnt let me select it but i edited by hand... lets see if it works
[06:38] <variant> bclinch: make a good sized bit of swap.. 256mb and you should be ok
[06:38] <The_Belgain> i've tried adding it to rc.local, but that doens't seem to be working
[06:38] <bronze_0_1> cool!
[06:38] <juano> bclinch: variant is right, you should use Xfce for GUI
[06:38] <CarlFK> bclinch: I run it on P2-333, 128 (for testing) and it is "ok", but add even 32 and it is noticeably better.  after 256 I don't notice much improvement
[06:39] <The_Belgain> i'm trying to autostart VLC listening on a telnet interface
[06:39] <The_Belgain> adding "vlc -I Telnet &" to rc.local doesn't work
[06:39] <variant> The_Belgain: you want it when you log in or when the system starts?
[06:39] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: it depends
[06:39] <The_Belgain> when the system starts
[06:39] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: while im at this, any tips to stop it from showing sh-3.1$ in my shell
[06:39] <CarlFK> bclinch: a huge factor will be what you are used to.  if your main box is a P4-3ghz, the laoptop will totally suck
[06:40] <The_Belgain> (it needs to serve content to a Hauppauge mediamvp box)
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: in .bash_profile change the setting of the PS1 variable - it sets your shgell promt
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> *shell
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> .bash_profile is in the user's homedir.
[06:40] <bronze_0_1> *each user's
[06:41] <bclinch> CarlFK: My day to day box is p3-1ghz, and it runs great in my opinion, It's not like i do any intensive stuff
[06:41] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: to what
[06:41] <CarlFK> bclinch: good - the lap won;t seem that bad.  do the install - not like it is that hard...
[06:42] <SushiP> Does anyone here have experience with EciAdsl and can help me to get it working?
[06:42] <The_Belgain> so variant, erUSUL, how can i get vlc to autostart?
[06:42] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: never mind, it was using sh as the default shell, i fixed that now
[06:42] <bclinch> cheers everyone, bye
[06:43] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: thanks
[06:43] <Trixsey> Judicata, I thought I mentioned that in my message.. I'm using Ubuntu..
[06:43] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: go to www.tldp.org , look up the list of "how to's" and look for the one on setting the prompt.  You can do anything you want with your prompt (literally)
[06:43] <Smirno1> bronze_0_1: yeah i know lol, i just never remember how to change the shell prompt nor the syntax
[06:43] <junk1> hi all this ubuntu 6.0.6 sucks for a newbie im lost
[06:44] <ctothej> how do I mount .bin & .cue cd images?
[06:44] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: add it to /etc/init.d/rc.local or make a custom initscript based on /etc/init.d/skeleton and add it to the init system with update-rc.d
[06:44] <zeasier> bash question here,
[06:44] <zeasier> $ gnome-terminal -x ./script | less
[06:44] <zeasier> pipes gnome-terminal's output. how do i pipe script?
[06:44] <bronze_0_1> Smirno1: export PS1="blah blah"
[06:45] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: dont use x. start the terminal, then type the command in at the shell promt "inside" the terminal.
[06:45] <junk1> read a bit an you see im rite  you cant really use ubuntu inless you know stuff or know someone that does
[06:45] <The_Belgain> so what's the difference between /etc/rc.local and /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[06:46] <zeasier> bronze_0_1: i'm trying to write a script that can be executed with a launcher icon
[06:46] <nfp|kelnoky> none of my apps use any swap space...normal?
[06:46] <bronze_0_1> zeasier: understood, but you can't do that while you are debugging the script.
[06:47] <bronze_0_1> debug in terminal first, then create launcher version
[06:47] <Hoag> Hey. Is there a way to copy and paste files and text from the Terminal Server Client? I can copy and paste fine within it, but not from the remote computer to my own, etc?
[06:47] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: /etc/init.d/rc.local executes /etc/rc.local so i was wrong and you have to add the vlc call to /etc/rc.local
[06:47] <surgy> how do you set a program to be the defualt program associated with a particular extension, for example i want VLC player to be associated with every divx and avi file
[06:47] <bronze_0_1> surgy: default from what program> firefos? file manager?
[06:47] <The_Belgain> yeah, i've already added it and it doesn't seem to be working - should i be running it with an & to background it?
[06:48] <ctothej> My usb harddrives auto mount, how can I make them mount with ntfs-3g??
[06:48] <surgy> bronze_0_1: well i want it so that instead of opening kafeine when i open a movie to open vlc
[06:48] <erUSUL> The_Belgain: mostly yes, have you restarted the system??
[06:48] <The_Belgain> yup
[06:49] <Judicata> surgy: In nautilus, if you right click, and "open with," I think it makes it the default.
[06:49] <The_Belgain> it seems to be something wrong with just the vlc autostarting in rc.local - i've added an autostart for a tftp server in rc.local and that works
[06:49] <bronze_0_1> surgy, open from what program?
[06:49] <surgy> VLC
[06:49] <ajopaul_> any file recovery tool for reiserfs filesystem??
[06:50] <The_Belgain> is it possible that would fail if vlc needed an x server and it wasn't available at that point in the bootup?
[06:50] <bronze_0_1> surgy, not "to" what program, "from" what program
[06:50] <Judicata> surgy: also, right click, properties, "Open With" tab.
[06:50] <surgy> bronze_0_1: curently the defualt program set is kafeine, i wish to change that to make VLC player my defualt application for opening divx and avi
[06:51] <surgy> judicata that just opens it ounce with the selected application that does not set it as defualt
[06:51] <bronze_0_1> surgy is this from within firefox or from your desktop?
[06:51] <surgy> bronze_0_1: has nothing to do with firefox
[06:51] <bronze_0_1> surgy or is this from within the filemanager?
[06:52] <surgy> bronze_0_1: filemanager i supose or desktop,
[06:52] <bronze_0_1> surgy which one
[06:52] <ademan> in a source tarball what does the ./INSTALL file contain?
[06:52] <erUSUL> ademan: install instructions?
[06:53] <surgy> bronze_0_1: your not making sense to me, the file is in both my desktop and my filemanager sense my desktop is in my filemanager, i want my media player which happens to be vlc media player to be the defualt application that opens divx and avi
[06:53] <cabldevil> anyone help me I jsut installed ubuntu 4 days ago and from the logs it keeps rebooting around 7:30  but i cant find out why??
[06:53] <mrnysegy1981> need some help with wireless
[06:54] <bronze_0_1> surgy, the desktop is not always the file manager.
[06:54] <bronze_0_1> so we will assume desktop
[06:54] <surgy> bronze_0_1: nevermind thanks for trying, i figured it out
[06:54] <NoNo_231> #ubuntu-gr
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> i've been trying to use iwconfig. this is what i get : bthomas@bthomas-laptop:~$ iwconfig
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"rome"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[06:54] <mrnysegy1981>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:54] <humboldt> I am desperately trying to find out, how well EVMS is supported in EDGY.
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:55] <surgy> bronze_0_1: its under file associations in settings
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:55] <Judicata> mrnysegy1981: please use pastebin
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981> wlan0     Auto  Access Point: Not-Associated
[06:55] <bronze_0_1> surgy find the settings menu for your desktop and then find the "file associations" setting in there. thats where you need to set the program which will open the designated extension.
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[06:55] <mwe> mrnysegy1981: don't do that
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981> sorry
[06:55] <uiiu> clabledevil: i don't know the anser to your problem - but it sounds like theres an automatic shutdown program
[06:55] <mrnysegy1981> what is pastebin
[06:55] <mwe> mr
[06:55] <Judicata> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <mwe> !paste| mrnysegy1981
[06:55] <ubotu> mrnysegy1981: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <uiiu> shutdown is a command, you may want to try man shutdown for more info
[06:55] <cabldevil> uiiu: yea its odd i donr know where to start
[06:56] <ctothej> My usb harddrive auto mounts, how can I make it do so with ntfs-3g??
[06:56] <cabldevil> ctothej: I think there is the info on the how-to for ntfs-3g
[06:56] <uiiu> cabledevil: there's a command you can use in terminal "shutdown", that i /think\ can be used to set up automatic shutdown times. you may want to try "man shutdown" to read the manual page on it. because there may be a way to reset, or UNset the shudown
[06:56] <mwe> uiiu: I have never heard of automagic shutdown on a default install, though
[06:57] <humboldt> Is EVMS not supported by the installer only for the reason that there is no GUI available yet or is it considered not stable enough by the Ubuntu team?
[06:57] <uiiu> clothej: havfe you tried editing /etc/fstab
[06:57] <humboldt> !evms
[06:57] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-15 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 304 kB
[06:57] <ctothej> cabldevil: how to on the wiki?
[06:57] <cabldevil> i think i have the link on by blog  mynick.blogspot.com
[06:57] <uiiu> mwe: netiher have i, but it's all i can think of
[06:57] <hmd64> is there a DeepFreeze like under Linux?
[06:57] <hexidigital> to completely remove X, could i just sudo aptitude remove xserver-xorg ?
[06:57] <uiiu> mwe: my default install didn't allow the floppy to be written to, i had to manually edit fstab, go figure...
[06:57] <humboldt> !lvm
[06:57] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:57] <agateau_> hello
[06:57] <humboldt> !lvm2
[06:57] <ubotu> lvm2: The Linux Logical Volume Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.02.06-2ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 828 kB
[06:57] <cabldevil> uiiu: thanks
[06:58] <ctothej> uiiu: yes, i put the entries in manually in fstab, then ran sudo mount -a to remount the drives...
[06:58] <humboldt> !md
[06:58] <mwe> hexidigital: no that wont work I think
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <cabldevil> uiiu: I just may reinstall just to be safe
[06:58] <humboldt> !raid
[06:58] <mrnysegy1981> still having trouble with wireless. here is what I get with iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2304/
[06:58] <hexidigital> mwe::  :(  that's disappointing...
[06:58] <hexidigital> no biggie
[06:58] <agateau_> anyone know which version of gcc is used to build edgy kernel?
[06:58] <uiiu> cabledevil: couldn't urt to try
[06:58] <torpor> hi there..
[06:58] <uiiu> clothej: and it still won't mount the corret filesystem? have to tried 'auto'?
[06:59] <Byan> mrnysegy1981: wow, two interfaces..
[06:59] <Byan> thats weird
[06:59] <torpor> i've installed beryl/XGl, but metacity keeps starting up whenever i try to get beryl-manager & emerald --replace running instead ..
[06:59] <ctothej> uiiu: "/dev/sdd1	/media/250PT1	ntfs-3g	user,auto	0	0" is my fstab entry
[06:59] <torpor> is this a FAQ?  i'm sure it is ..
[06:59] <mrnysegy1981> i've got two plugged in
[06:59] <cabldevil> ill do that  ..what I should do now is to set my system clock to 7:20 am  and see what happends live
[06:59] <torpor> can anyone tell me where to go to get #beryl help?
[06:59] <slvmchn> is it possible to use digital cameras with the mini usb connector as a webcam
[06:59] <mrnysegy1981> a buffalo card and a linksys
[06:59] <digits> hey dudes and dudettes! is there some sort of netinstall for ubuntu that doesn't require a cd-rom at all? trying to "save" the old man from the disease of trojans et al, but he's cd-rom is broken - and i can't find anybody with one that i can borrow
[06:59] <Byan> mrnysegy1981: oh, lol, I thought it just
[06:59] <Byan> nvm
[07:00] <uiiu> cabledevil: good idea...
[07:00] <mwe> hexidigital: sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-core might work
[07:00] <cabldevil> uiiu:  ok i changed the clock to 7:28  let see if i get booted off of irc  =P
[07:00] <hexidigital> mwe::  worth a shot -- thanks :)
[07:01] <uiiu> clothej: this is just an idea, but try switching "auto" to ntfs...or did you already do that?
[07:01] <uiiu> cabledevil: good luck :)
[07:01] <mwe> cabldevil: doesn't syslog mention what's going on?
[07:01] <ctothej> uiiu: i didnt do that yet
[07:01] <cabldevil> mwe 1 sec ill paist
[07:01] <hexidigital> mwe::  or even x-window-system-core
[07:01] <uiiu> clothej: unmount, then give it a shot...i'll google to see if i can get more info...
[07:02] <mbutUbuntu> please read thil log
[07:02] <mikeConigliaro3> i must be an idiot or something.  why dont i have a /boot/grub?
[07:02] <mbutUbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2306/
[07:02] <cabldevil> mwe: Jan 20 07:39:41 server -- MARK --
[07:02] <cabldevil> Jan 20 07:40:19 server exiting on signal 15
[07:02] <cabldevil> Jan 20 07:40:20 server syslogd 1.4.1#18ubuntu6: restart.
[07:02] <mwe> hexidigital: yeah. xserver-xorg-core seems to want to remove everything here. haven't tried your own suggestion
[07:03] <cabldevil> mwe: Jan 21 07:30:01 server /USR/SBIN/CRON[15990] : (root) CMD (test -x /etc/init.d/anacron && /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d anacron start >/dev/null)
[07:03] <cabldevil> Jan 21 07:30:01 server anacron[16014] : Anacron 2.3 started on 2007-01-21
[07:03] <cabldevil> Jan 21 07:30:01 server anacron[16014] : Will run job `cron.daily' in 5 min.
[07:03] <cabldevil> Jan 21 07:30:01 server anacron[16014] : Jobs will be executed sequentially
[07:03] <hexidigital> mwe::  yours worked
[07:03] <cabldevil> from syslog
[07:03] <mwe> cabldevil: don't paste here
[07:03] <digits> mwe: it should want to remove all, since all repends (more or less) on it :)
[07:03] <cabldevil> sorry
[07:03] <mwe> cabldevil: you'll get kicked
[07:03] <cabldevil> ty
[07:03] <ctothej> uiiu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2307/
[07:04] <mwe> digits: all of Xorg and related stuff that is
[07:04] <digits> mwe: ofcourse
[07:04] <nfp|kelnoky> none of my apps use any swap space...normal?
[07:04] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone know how I can find out what kernel and versions I'm running
[07:04] <quad3d> mrnysegy1981, uname -a
[07:05] <mwe> digits: that's great. he asked for a way to remove Xorg so I guess that will work
[07:05] <uiiu> clothej: i see it...hold on a sec...
[07:05] <mrnysegy1981> thanks
[07:05] <mwe> !paste | cabldevil
[07:05] <ubotu> cabldevil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:06] <digits> mwe: yeah, more or less :)
[07:06] <mikeConigliaro2> can someone tell me hwo to edit my boot menu?  i dont have a /boot/grub for some reason
[07:06] <cabldevil> mwe =)  ty
[07:06] <Judicata> mikeConigliaro2: you mean it doesn't show up at all?
[07:06] <str4> yo
[07:06] <nwonknu-> hey
[07:06] <cokeslut> hey
[07:06] <mrnysegy1981> does anyone know if I have to enable the radio in my kernel configuration? using kernel  2.6.15-27-386
[07:06] <gopss> hi
[07:06] <mwe> digits: some stuff with broken dependencies will probably be left
[07:07] <uiiu> clothej: try another mount point, don't use the auto option, but "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 NEWMOUNTPOINT" ie mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /USBHDD" but first mkdir /USBHDD
[07:07] <mikeConigliaro2> Judicata: this is a clean install of ubuntu server.  i have no /boot/grub at all
[07:07] <digits> mwe: ofcourse, since it only remove core and dependand packages, you can use "dpkg -l | grep ii" to see all installed packages and remove those that you don't want
[07:08] <mikeConigliaro2> and i need to install a new kernel, because t he default doesnt work for my machine
[07:08] <mikeConigliaro2> and installing a new kernel is not updating the boot menu
[07:09] <uiiu> clothej: oh! make sure you have the right /dev file !
[07:09] <mwe> digits: yeah. I usually use dpkg --get-selections|grep -v deinstall. I find the output much nicer
[07:09] <gili> ok what is the best way to rip copy-protected dvd's
[07:09] <gili> ?
[07:09] <nwonknu-> ?
[07:09] <str4> tell me
[07:09] <cokeslut> private
[07:10] <gili> i used to have k9copy....but there seems to be protections that it wont bypass
[07:10] <digits> mwe: less typing my way, but you're right... i'm still a debianish noob
[07:10] <cabldevil> stupid question but how do i see my cron jobs in ubuntu =(
[07:10] <ctothej> uiiu: successful, but mounted for root access only though
[07:10] <patrick_> hello
[07:10] <ctothej> uiiu: not sure about write access yet
[07:10] <patrick_> is there some1 can help me
[07:10] <frogzoo> cabldevil: crontab -l
[07:11] <nfp|kelnoky> none of my apps use any swap space...normal?
[07:11] <cabldevil> ty
[07:11] <gili> ok what is the best way to rip copy-protected dvd's?
[07:11] <digits> anybody know if there's a netinstall (or similar) that doesn't require a cd-rom at all?
[07:11] <patrick_> how can i play mp3 in totem??
[07:11] <frogzoo> nfp|kelnoky: perfectly normal if you're running with available ram
[07:11] <patrick_> how can i play mp3 in totem??
[07:11] <patrick_> how can i play mp3 in totem??
[07:11] <ctothej> uiiu: its mounted as read only
[07:12] <mwe> digits: there is
[07:12] <uiiu> clothej: cool, then add the following/or make sure it's there....umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,gid=46,rw,sync,user,noauto,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850
[07:12] <Judicata> !mp3 | patrick_
[07:12] <ubotu> patrick_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <cabldevil> frogzoo: says no cron job for me or root  this is od
[07:12] <mwe> digits: I did it over pxe running on a windows server
[07:12] <patrick_> Judica how??
[07:13] <Preetam> #cando-sprint
[07:13] <uiiu> clothej: rw sets it to readWRITE and the gid will include the plugindev group, which your regular user should already be a part of
[07:13] <mgallagh> #schooltool
[07:13] <mwe> digits: that's the boot. then installed everything from the internet
[07:13] <Judicata> patrick_: On the page ubotu posted - it will help you out. If you have further questions, pls ask.
[07:13] <frogzoo> cabldevil: why odd?
[07:13] <mgallagh> sorry
[07:13] <linux_den> need help installin ubuntu on presario. system hangs early during startup. have tried various distros only suse works help please
[07:13] <cabldevil> i guess ill do a reinstall  ...
[07:13] <bronze_0_1> patrick_: go and read the indicated web pages. they tell how
[07:13] <patrick_> ok thanks
[07:13] <cabldevil> frogzoo:   the server is rebooting around 7:30 every morning and i dont know why
[07:13] <nfp|kelnoky> frogzoo: so whats the swap doing then? :D
[07:14] <mzanfardino> where can I find reference material for configuring my microsoft keyboard?
[07:14] <mwe> digits: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[07:14] <ctothej> uiiu: how do I force an unmount?
[07:14] <uiiu> umount, opposite the mount command
[07:14] <ctothej> telling me device is busy
[07:14] <ctothej> force though
[07:14] <uiiu> ahh, sh!t, i was wondering that myself the other day :)
[07:14] <crit09> All: Anyway to find SMTP address of one's server?
[07:14] <frogzoo> cabldevil: look in /etc/cron.daily/
[07:14] <cabldevil> k
[07:15] <uiiu> clothej: google it is, if you find out before i do - let me know ;)
[07:15] <frogzoo> nfp|kelnoky: swap is for when physical ram is exhausted
[07:15] <mzanfardino> is there someplace I can find out how to configure my microsoft keyboard?
[07:15] <ctothej> uiiu: k
[07:15] <uiiu> clothej: gotit: umount -f
[07:15] <crit09> All: Anyway to find SMTP address of one's server?
[07:15] <ctothej> uiiu: nice
[07:15] <uiiu> clothej: BE CAREFUL. you don't want ot loose data
[07:16] <Zaggynl> Can someone highlight me please
[07:16] <mwe> don't umount a busy drive
[07:16] <cabldevil> frogzoo:  sudo gedit /etc/cron.daily
[07:16] <cabldevil>   and it said it could not be open  ??
[07:16] <nfp|kelnoky> Zaggynl
[07:16] <Zaggynl> thanks
[07:16] <linux_den> ubuntu install hangs early in process last error reads {DriveReady SeekComplete Errors} any hints appreciated
[07:16] <uiiu> mwe: how do you make it so it's not 'busy'...are there processes to kill or something?
[07:16] <ctothej> uiiu: i found out why too, my terminal window was pointing to the mounted directory
[07:16] <cabldevil> frogzoo:  for get it i know im dumb
[07:16] <uiiu> clothej: thanks, i'll have to remember that myself :)
[07:17] <mwe> uiiu: close open files on the drive
[07:17] <mwe> uiiu: for cd drives you can use the 'eject' command
[07:17] <gili> ok what is the best way to rip copy-protected dvd's?
[07:17] <uiiu> mwe: thanks, i was trying to use top the day but it was greek to me...
[07:17] <digits> mwe: thanks, have to check that
[07:17] <humboldt> do you guys know, why evms did not make it into ubuntu yet?
[07:18] <humboldt> do you guys know, why evms did not make it into ubuntu yet?
[07:18] <humboldt> I mean the installer (at least the alternate installer)
[07:18] <humboldt> Wouldn't EVMS be the a great alternative for the way LVM and RAID are currently managed?
[07:18] <humboldt> there are even GUIs available for EVMS (ncurses and X)
[07:18] <uiiu> clothej: if you want to try editing fstab again, you could use ntfs-g3 instead of ntfs, ntfs-g3 is a somewhat new journaled filesystem i think...and the newer version of nix should be updated for it...
[07:19] <B_166-ER-X> i need to know the 'hd*,*' of my harddisk + boot partition, where can i get that ? or how ?
[07:19] <ctothej> uiiu: i tried the last command with ntfs-3g and it worked.. now i just need to set the options for it correctly in fstab
[07:19] <nn531> !rar
[07:19] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:19] <xpander25008> hello
[07:19] <uiiu> cloethej: good thinking using ntfs-g3, with fstab you'll probably just have to change auto or ntfs the same way....
[07:19] <uiiu> (as you already probably realize ;)
[07:20] <mwe> uiiu: you probably want to use lsof to show open files
[07:20] <xtknight> idea: i'm bakc
[07:20] <ctothej> mwe: i didnt know about that command. its nice.
[07:20] <mwe> uiiu: you can grep for the mount point
[07:21] <wolfwalker> I'm new to Linux and want to get someone's opinion of what programs I should install. I'm a big music nut, so I'm looking for an audio converter, recorder, neat burn program........... all that good stuff. Which room should I go to?
[07:21] <mzanfardino> Does anyone know how to enable the full functionality of an old-school microsoft ergo keyboard (not the 4000)... I don't seem to have the right-alt and a few other keys working... I know it's in xorg.conf, but I don't know where to find a complete list of options...
[07:21] <ctothej> what are the <dump> and <pass> options in fstab?
[07:21] <uiiu> mwe: awesome, didn't know about lsof either (thanks). lots of output, greps a good idea, i wonder if there are any switches to use too? <'man-ing' losf>
[07:21] <nn531> !cue
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <nn531> !bin
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <mwe> uiiu: there are dozens ;)
[07:22] <xpander25008> hello. please anyone can suggest me a lightweight IDE for C development in ubuntu. i have to modify some program using sockets.
[07:22] <Dame> !alsa
[07:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:22] <Judicata> wolfwalker: Amarok or Exaile!, Easytag, Grip and a handful of apps installed by default are a good start.
[07:23] <frogzoo> xpander25008: emacs is pretty good for C
[07:23] <IntuitiveNipple> In Evolution, is it possible to configure multiple identities for one (IMAP4) mail account?
[07:24] <uiiu> clothej: dump has to do with backing files up, don't know about pass though. check out this link http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html ...good stuff.
[07:24] <zizb> hello?
[07:25] <arrenlex> !hi | zizb
[07:25] <ubotu> zizb: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:25] <B_166-ER-X> how can i know what are the Linux names of my drives ? (hda, hdd, hda1...hdb..ect) ?
[07:25] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: Sound Juicer, amarok, k3b
[07:25] <mwe> uiiu: lsof /dev/hda1 or similar might be useful as well
[07:25] <beterraba> hello, i've installed azereus, and i need to find its log. but i cant found the paste. could some one told me where azereus is installed plz?
[07:25] <arrenlex> B_166-ER-X: sudo fdisk -l
[07:25] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[07:25] <beterraba> hello, i've installed azereus, and i need to find its log. but i cant found the paste. could some one told me where azereus is installed plz?
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> on wich drive is Grub installed ?
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> 'boot drive' ?
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: "mount" will show you the associations between /dev/hdX and your file-system
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> B_166-ER-X: check the grub config file in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:26] <wolfwalker> !grip
[07:26] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[07:27] <HymnToLife> hmm
[07:27] <HymnToLife> methinks, X should be the CDROM drive, rather
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Don't ask me, I didn't write it:P
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Ubuntu comes with a cool burn program anyway, doesn't it?
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Any trackers perchance?
[07:28] <HymnToLife> it would'nt make any sense to symlink a hard drive to /dev/cdrom
[07:28] <MasterShrek> gnomebaker maybe
[07:28] <uiiu> mwe: gave lsof /dev/hd1 a shot, and i got an error message...about 'can't stat file system (ext 3)'...what's that about?
[07:28] <ctothej> uiiu: i edited my fstab and the drives point to different folders, but they still mount to the previous folders with the default ntfs fs.
[07:28] <wolfwalker> Is there maybe a good audio tracking program for Linux?
[07:29] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, define "audio tracking" please
[07:29] <MasterShrek> what do u mean by audio tracking?
[07:29] <arrenlex> Oooh. gaim-text is COOL.
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> ok, i have all my Hd** listed, but i dont get how to find what is my 'boot partition'
[07:29] <wolfwalker> Load a note from a piano, the program interpolates it to different keys, you slot the notes into a "track" to make a tune
[07:29] <wolfwalker> Overlay different tracks for chords or other instruments
[07:30] <uiiu> clothej: did you unmount then remount?
[07:30] <wolfwalker> Like modplug, but better
[07:30] <junk1> ubuntu  6.0.6 wireless card isnt keeping the profile thing so it works with out setting it every time help pls
[07:30] <ctothej> uiiu: i unmounted, then I remounted using "mount -a"
[07:30] <HymnToLife> B_166-ER-X, what do you want to do with it ?
[07:30] <ctothej> uiiu: because the drives automatically mount when i plug the usb in
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> HymnToLife ,preparing to reinstall windows on a dual boot system, i knowthat grub will be screwed, and i'm takin notes  on how to repair it afterwards
[07:31] <BIHCar> hello folks
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> i have this from a walktrought' 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).'
[07:32] <B_166-ER-X> hence my questions
[07:32] <uiiu> ctothej: gotchya...and you're using.../dev/sdd1       /USBHDD  ntfs-g3    umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,gid=46,rw,sync,user,noauto,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850
[07:32] <uiiu> ctothej: wait, not supposed to be "noauto" but "auto"
[07:32] <uiiu> ctothej: and i use sync jto make sure files transfer in real-time
[07:32] <ctothej> uiiu: fstab entries look like: "/dev/sdd1	/media/ntfs3g1	ntfs-3g	defaults	0	0"
[07:33] <afief> Does someone know how to make the Linista GTK+ theme look right?
[07:33] <mwe> uiiu: not sure. try sudo lsof, though
[07:33] <uiiu> ctothej: try adding those entries then...so that YOU'RE user will automatically mount the drive, with the right options and as read/write
[07:33] <ctothej> uiiu: will do
[07:34] <uiiu> cthothej: of course, you won't be using /USBHDD, but the mount point that you want...;)
[07:34] <kolla_> why does "apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686" install two sets of headers?
[07:35] <uiiu> mwe: good call :)
[07:35] <LycanNYC-work> !mp3
[07:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:35] <mwe> kolla_: it does? what are they?
[07:36] <kitche> kolla_: for me it only installs one
[07:36] <kolla_> mwe: linux-headers-2.6.15-27 linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686
[07:36] <kolla_> it insists that I must have both
[07:36] <tafsen> Im reading this guide ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002&highlight=howto+remove+ubuntu-desktop ) .  And it says that i have to install a desktop package with aptitude to remove it again easily.  If I just installed from a cd, isn't there a easy way to remove the ubuntu-packages if I want to switch to Kubuntu?
[07:36] <kolla_> I dont see the point :P
[07:36] <mwe> kolla_: it only installs one set, though, I believe
[07:36] <Arrick> hey, how d I manually edit the video resolution in ubunut?
[07:36] <Arrick> breezy
[07:37] <Arrick> hey mwe how are you?
[07:37] <kolla_> mwe: I get two dirs in /usr/src, one for each
[07:38] <mwe> kolla_: I'm not sure what's up. It seems I have two as well, though
[07:38] <Arrick> !fixres
[07:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:38] <kitche> kolla_: dapper correct?
[07:38] <kolla_> oh.. one if just fileld with symlinks
[07:38] <kolla_> filled
[07:39] <kolla_> kitche: yes, stuck with it
[07:39] <kitche> kolla_: yea sicne the linux headers really don't change between each kernel version it's teh same headers actually for everything
[07:40] <B_166-ER-X> whats the simplest way to reinstall grub after reinstall windows on a dual-boot box ?
[07:40] <tafsen> Doesn't anyone know of an easy way to completely remove ubuntu-desktop?
[07:41] <uiiu> doesn't anyone know why top shows so much memory being used (Mem:    386700k total,   377152k used,     9548k free,    32692k buffers) even though only a few apps are running? that's aLot of memory...
[07:41] <kitche> tafsen: uninstall gnome
[07:41] <kitche> uiiu: what applicatiosn are running
[07:42] <ctothej> uiiu: its working well now! i need to read up on ntfs-3g and how it works though so I understand the permissioning aspects here
[07:42] <uiiu> kitche: firefox, terminal, gaim, text...which sounds like alot, i know :), but even when there's virtually nothing running, just one terminal , it's way higher than i'd think it'd be
[07:42] <kitche>  uiiu I have X and enlightenment and running irssi plus all the linux stuff and I only have 63720k free out of 256 megs
[07:43] <uiiu> ctothej: awesome! :) i actually got schooled in fstab about an hour before you signed on...props go to a user called psiPLUS...
[07:43] <ctothej> oh yeah, he helped me out before, hes the man
[07:43] <uiiu> ctothej: LOL. small world :) yeah...definately the man.
[07:44] <uiiu> kitche: yeah...iit's weird
[07:44] <kitche> uiiu: but I know firefox can take memory up still they still didn't fix the memory leak problem that I can see at least
[07:44] <uiiu> ctothej: LOL, i second that one...and by reading up on umask and all, you'll learn alot more than just about what you had to deal with...good stuff :)
[07:44] <CarlFK> what is a light weight image viewer?
[07:44] <CarlFK> duh - display.
[07:44] <uiiu> kitche:  so you're saying if i close firefox, it should drop? lemme try that...
[07:45] <kitche> uiiu it might sometimes firefox holds onto memory or something like that
[07:45] <CarlFK> apparently I can only answer questions I see in a chat room. :)
[07:45] <Crux2k> whats the command to install shit
[07:45] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Crux2k
[07:45] <ubotu> Crux2k: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:46] <Crux2k> sudo and then?
[07:46] <uiiu> kitche: i had the same problem with limewire on a mac, it would eat up 400mb PLUS of ram...insane. would kill my whole system.
[07:46] <CarlFK> Crux2k: sudo apt-get install smit
[07:46] <skvn> can one of you paste me one (not edited) line from /etc/environment? pm me for details if you can :P
[07:46] <CarlFK> Crux2k: and yeah, what ubot said.
[07:47] <uiiu> ktiche: o.k. sometthings really wrong here...Mem:    386700k total,   378200k used,     8500k free,    33188k buffers....none of the open apps shows memory usage anywhere near that.
[07:48] <uiiu> anyone know any alternatives to top for monitoring memory usage? i know there's something out, not remembering though...
[07:48] <riotkittie> free?
[07:48] <riotkittie> err. nevermind.
[07:48] <coz_> on edgy is there a way to disable ALL tool tips?
[07:49] <milser> salut
[07:50] <AlexC_> milser: #ubuntu-fr
[07:50] <uiiu> riotkittie: good call..."free" works, why'd you 'nevermind'?
[07:50] <milser> hello
[07:50] <AlexC_> milser: =)
[07:50] <uiiu> vmstat works good too...
[07:50] <milser> french?
[07:50] <AlexC_> milser: #ubuntu-fr
[07:51] <sertac> hi all how can i show firefox my installed flash plug in
[07:51] <milser> talk french?
[07:51] <AlexC_> print plugin out, open fire fox - put printed paper infront of monitor so Firefox can see it
[07:51] <ctothej> uiiu: what does the gid=46 option do?
[07:52] <sertac> alex u are super
[07:52] <sertac> :D
[07:52] <sertac> but tried it
[07:52] <AlexC_> hehe
[07:52] <sertac> :D
[07:52] <sertac> any real solution
[07:52] <sertac> :D
[07:52] <AlexC_> sertac: you want to install Flash 9?
[07:53] <kitche> sertac: did you install apackage or no
[07:53] <sertac> i installed package
[07:53] <sertac> but firefox didnt realized
[07:53] <FunnyMan3591> Greetings.  Is there a program out there to let me change wireless access points without going through the network settings (and preferably without a (gk)sudo)?
[07:53] <juan> nickserv register <your-password>
[07:54] <uiiu> ctothej: it's a group called  "plugindev" - self-descriptive - plug-in devices. by default all general users on ubuntu are part of it, so that they get full read-write permission if a device is part of that group, and they are too
[07:54] <Arrick> this bites
[07:54] <juan> where i can find a mozilla 32bit ??
[07:54] <juan> because i have an amd64
[07:54] <Arrick> I cant get the resolution about 800x600 on my breexy install
[07:54] <kitche> sertac: about:plugins in firefox address bar see if it sees the plugin if not you might have to close and open firefox up sometimes it sees it and other times it needs a restart
[07:54] <juan> and i need it for to install flash
[07:54] <Arrick> and I cant upgrde it it;s too slow
[07:55] <ctothej> uiiu: ahhh now i understand the permissioning on those folders. Thank you
[07:55] <kitche> !chroot|juan
[07:55] <ubotu> juan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:55] <juan> i dont need it
[07:55] <uiiu> ctothej: sure thing. you can always use chmod on the mountpoint folder to see what the permissions are. it will show whether people in it's group can read/write &/or execute it
[07:55] <juan> i just installed the 32 bit library
[07:55] <sertac> kitche my friend i did what u said but i didnt get any result
[07:55] <uiiu> chmod is a crucial command, as you probably already know :)
[07:56] <juan> but now i can't find a firefox 32 bit, where i can sonwload it ??
[07:56] <kitche> juan: ok you can get the mozilla 32bit from the repos
[07:56] <Arrick> which also means I cant access the bottomof any screens
[07:56] <ctothej> uiiu: yes, i have its man page up as we speak!
[07:56] <juan> wich onw
[07:56] <juan> i try from google ??
[07:57] <kitche> juan the repo for x86
[07:57] <uiiu> ctothej: lol :) chown is like chmod too, but better is some cases...
[07:57] <juan> the ubuntu repo ??
[07:57] <kitche> for firefox you can get that from their website if you really want it to be easier
[07:57] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I finally got it working ! !
[07:57] <ashrok> or install automatix2 they install it for you :)
[07:58] <kitche> !automatix
[07:58] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:58] <juan> ok, i will try with automatix
[07:58] <juan> thanks
[07:58] <ashrok> i use it and it work fine for me ,sry if you disagree
[07:58] <FunnyMan3591> !WorksForMe
[07:58] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:59] <kitche> ashrok: wait until you upgrade
[07:59] <ashrok> hehe upgrade to?
[07:59] <ashrok> 6.10?
[07:59] <Arrick> wow, I guess ##linux can help better. Sory to have bothered you guys.
[07:59] <juan> my synaptic doesn't find automatix
[07:59] <Hirvinen> !automatix | juan
[07:59] <ubotu> juan: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:59] <gnomefreak> ashrok: please dont advise using automatix to anyone in here as a sulotion for anything.
[07:59] <kitche> juan: it's not in the repos since it's not done by ubuntu it's 3rd party
[08:00] <gnomefreak> just because it works for you doesnt mean its safe
[08:00] <juan> ok thanks
[08:00] <ashrok> firefox is also 3rd part
[08:00] <juan> so, i simply want to download a 32 bit firefox, i try  from google, and the 63 bit becomes
[08:00] <ctothej> Where is the default application install folder for ubuntu? i need to specify where to install a certain app, but not sure where its files should go
[08:00] <ashrok> y
[08:00] <LjL> ashrok: but it's packaged by the Ubuntu teams. Automatix is packaged by its own team, in its own repositories
[08:01] <gnomefreak> ashrok: ff isnt 3rd party since we add our touches to it
[08:01] <ashrok> ok ok :)
[08:01] <HymnToLife> ctothej, each app install files in different places
[08:01] <HymnToLife> you can see the files installed by a given pachage with dpkg -L
[08:01] <jrib> ctothej: if it isn't an ubuntu package being installed through APT you should install to /usr/local or /opt
[08:01] <uiiu> ctothej: yeah - there's different folders...but check out /usr (ls)
[08:02] <uiiu> ctothej: ls > ls
[08:02] <kitche> uiiu: huh lol
[08:02] <ctothej> yeah, its not an ubuntu package
[08:02] <ctothej> not a deb installer
[08:02] <uiiu> kitche: lol - yeah i know i mean "ls"
[08:02] <jrib> ctothej: what are you installing?
[08:02] <ctothej> netbeans development environment
[08:03] <sertac> who wanna install netbeans
[08:03] <ctothej> i knew i was going to get that response
[08:03] <gnomefreak> ctothej: im guessing you have a bin file?
[08:03] <ctothej> the new netbeans is actually pretty damn nice
[08:03] <ctothej> gnomefreak: yep
[08:03] <jrib> ctothej: k, well use /opt or /usr/local then, whatever you choose is fine
[08:03] <gnomefreak> ctothej: sh file.bin
[08:03] <ctothej> ok
[08:03] <juan> i just want the link to a 32 bit firefox download page
[08:04] <gnomefreak> juan: mozilla.com
[08:04] <dame> !mp3
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <keeb> hello ! i just did an upgrade on my drivers after having direct rendering working
[08:04] <keeb> for quite some time
[08:04] <keeb> and now it is broken
[08:04] <juan> ok, i try there, but the 64 bit version appears
[08:04] <ctothej> gnomefreak: yeah, i have the installer running, it just asked me for a location (defaulted to /opt though)
[08:04] <ctothej> so ill keep that
[08:05] <gnomefreak> juan: http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[08:05] <gnomefreak> juan: its gonna open as 64bit because that is what you are on
[08:05] <AlexC_> How can I search for text inside multiple php files in a directory?
[08:06] <green-> has anyone experienced crashing while playing audio in firefox under edgy/firefox 2.0.1 ?
[08:06] <transhumanist> I recently installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on a HP dv6000 laptop and am having a few problems. This is my first attempt using Linux after extensive Windows use. It runs smoothly, but there are a couple of problems: 1) (and I am not sure if this is due to frequent Windows use) I can not detect what processor I am using. This is important because I recently purchased the laptop, and immediately installed Ubuntu. The sticker says "Centrino Duo", but the pro
[08:06] <transhumanist> cessor I ordered is "Core 2 duo", which are 32 and 64 bit respectively. Therefor determining my processor is important because by knowing it I can determine which Ubuntu version to use. 2) I can not uninstall applications. I receive an error that states that it "may not support my system architecture". I have tried uninstalling programs on both 32 and 64 bit architectures but neither have worked. I hope I am not being too pestiferous with my techni
[08:06] <transhumanist> cal support woes!
[08:06] <juan> yes, but i want the 32 bit, so with the 32 libraries i can run it, and then i can install flash
[08:06] <Smirnov> how do i unmount an smb folder
[08:06] <beasty> Smirnov: umount /path/to :p
[08:07] <gnomefreak> juan: try here http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html
[08:07] <beasty> morning gnomefreak
[08:07] <Smirnov> thanks
[08:07] <juan> the i686 is 32 bit ??
[08:07] <gnomefreak> juan: i can only find 32 bit because im running it so i dont know what those pages will find for you
[08:07] <gnomefreak> juan: yes
[08:07] <uiiu> goodbye all! thanks for the great company & info! long live ubuntu!
[08:07] <juan> ok thanks
[08:07] <ctothej> uiiu: later bro
[08:07] <gnomefreak> i686 == cpu 686 and above
[08:07] <juan> mey be the problem is another
[08:07] <juan> thanks anyway
[08:08] <gnomefreak> beasty: helli
[08:08] <gnomefreak> hello
[08:08] <juan> you are so nice
[08:08] <beasty> gnomefreak: don't you mean socket 686 ?
[08:08] <Hirvinen> juan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=i686
[08:08] <gnomefreak> beasty: that too
[08:08] <beasty> ;)
[08:08] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys how can i get rid of the bottom panel in unbuntu KDE?
[08:08] <beasty> right click on it
[08:08] <beasty> remove this panel
[08:08] <beasty> gnomefreak then go to bed ;)
[08:09] <frogzoo> [BTF] Chm0d: right click
[08:09] <juan> i will try with it
[08:09] <juan> thanks
[08:09] <gnomefreak> beasty: im getting there soon. just need to finish up a little bit of crap
[08:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> i dont get the option to remove the main panel just remove from panel
[08:09] <beasty> i just returned back from the beach
[08:09] <gnomefreak> beasty: that doesnt work for kicker
[08:10] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: hold on i have a link
[08:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty
[08:10] <beasty> bought a new kite today and played a bit with it ;)
[08:10] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Getting_Rid_of_The_Panel
[08:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> im using kxdocker and i want that panel to be gone :P
[08:10] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: btw #kubuntu is a better place for those questions
[08:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty gnomefreak
[08:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> :P
[08:11] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: im working on something simular to you thats the only reason why i had link :0
[08:11] <marlun> how do I write multiple commands on the same line?
[08:11] <frogzoo> marlun: semicolons
[08:11] <Bubiis> umm
[08:12] <gnomefreak> marlun: command ; command or command && command
[08:12] <marlun> can I do like: cd ~; evince file.pdf &
[08:12] <Bubiis> my name is bubis
[08:12] <marlun> ok :) thanks
[08:13] <Bubiis> giati mou lete thanks\
[08:13] <juan> hhooo!!! yes!!! flash work
[08:13] <juan> jajaja
[08:13] <dimeo> howdy all
[08:13] <ScreaminIke> i'm looking for a wireless (prefereably N, but i'll settle for G) usb card. anyone know anything about driver support?
[08:15] <kitche> ScreaminIke: well N isn't out yet only thing you'll get is pre-n
[08:15] <vissa> hello
[08:15] <ScreaminIke> i'm finding wireless n cards for usb for about $88
[08:15] <ScreaminIke> are you saying that they're not real?
[08:16] <ScreaminIke> (not being sarcastic. just asking if i'm misreading)
[08:16] <wheels3572> Can someone tell me why everytime I download xubuntu 6.10 that the iso downloads and I can click open from inside the Firefox download manager but yet I can NOT find it on my system?
[08:16] <nn531> does anyone know how to burn a .bin file to a cd as an image?
[08:16] <qcjn> hello
[08:16] <kitche> ScreaminIke: they are pre-n, some people call them n when in reality they are not
[08:16] <jrib> wheels3572: are you downloading on ubuntu?
[08:17] <wheels3572> Well im  not using Ubuntu itself.  Im using Xubuntu
[08:17] <ScreaminIke> oh. are they worth anything, kitche? or should i just go wireless g?
[08:17] <wheels3572> jrib, the funny part i already downloaded the 6.10 iso of regular ubuntu and it showed up just fine
[08:17] <jrib> wheels3572: well when you click open it ends up in a temp directory somewhere
[08:17] <wheels3572> jrib, i goto download xubuntu 6.10 and or feisty fawn 2 and cant find the damn iso
[08:17] <Trixsey> I'm new to Ubuntu and the open source community, and I'm exploring its wounders. If anyone could recommend cool open source programs I'd be really happy! Any recommendations is fine, I'm out to explore the open source community in general!
[08:17] <tristan_> what should I use to copy a CD in ubuntu ?
[08:17] <ScreaminIke> (there is a time limit for this purchase. i need it for a class)
[08:18] <wheels3572> oh
[08:18] <kitche> ScreaminIke: they are ok dont think n will work with g or b though
[08:18] <wheels3572> oh?
[08:18] <ScreaminIke> Trixey, what do you like to do with your computer?
[08:18] <tristan_> hahaha !
[08:18] <tristan_> never mind
[08:18] <tristan_> :D
[08:18] <jrib> wheels3572: or are you clicking download and then just open from the manager?
[08:18] <wheels3572> open from the manager
[08:18] <ScreaminIke> kitche, do you know of any USB wireless g cards supported out-of-the box?
[08:18] <wheels3572> jrib,  cuz you have the open and remove options and im clicking on open
[08:18] <john1987> jrib you could install gnome and make it your default session
[08:18] <jrib> wheels3572: well try 'sudo updatedb && locate whateverthenameofthefileis'
[08:19] <ibob63> does anyone know if you can collection your emails from hotmail using pop3 or have they banned it?
[08:19] <kitche> ScreaminIke: I never looked at usb wirless
[08:19] <Judicata> Trixsey: sourceforge.net - There is Free "Open Source" software for darn near everything. Is there a specific need you have?
[08:19] <dame> !xgl
[08:19] <ScreaminIke> ibob, they don't support pop3. it's some http protocol.
[08:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:19] <bigfuzzyjesus> ibob63, they havent banned it but you have to pay for it
[08:19] <Trixsey> Judicata, no.. I want inspiration
[08:19] <Malachi> Is there a way I can change the look of KDE apps in Gnome?
[08:19] <jrib> john1987: wrong name I think
[08:19] <Trixsey> I want suggestions :)
[08:19] <ScreaminIke> thx, kitche :)
[08:19] <Malachi> I had KDE installed, but decided to go back to gnome. Now I want Amarok's appearance to change.
[08:19] <Trixsey> Anything from cool compilers to media players or comic book readers
[08:19] <Trixsey> anything
[08:19] <Trixsey> :p
[08:19] <ibob63> Screaminlike. Thanks, I don't think I will bother then
[08:20] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[08:20] <ScreaminIke> trixey, do you do media editing? are you a web junky? what do you DO?
[08:20] <bigfuzzyjesus> Malachi, have you tried exhaile
[08:20] <bigfuzzyjesus> !exhaile
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exhaile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Judicata> Trixsey: Great! www.gnu.org and http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf is a great place to start.
[08:20] <Trixsey> ScreaminIke, I'm looking for cool programs in general.. so it could be anything.. suggest the coolest programs you know :D
[08:20] <john1987> yep sorry
[08:20] <Judicata> !exaile
[08:20] <Malachi> bigfuzzyjesus: Yeah, I have. I just prefer Amarok.
[08:20] <EnsignRedshirt> The sudoers file says is MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command.  Why can't this be edited with a regular editor?
[08:20] <EnsignRedshirt> s/is MUST/it MUST/
[08:20] <Malachi> bigfuzzyjesus: Exhaile wasn't bad, just not what I'm looking for at the time.
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <ScreaminIke> amarok. :)... evolution is BANGIN. battle for wesnoth. mythtv.
[08:21] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: it can be, but it's dumb not to use visudo
[08:21] <bigfuzzyjesus> Malachi, oh, i dont know if you can change the appearance
[08:21] <kitche> EnsignRedshirt: other editors will destroy that file
[08:21] <nn531> I know that the default cd writer in ubuntu can do iso files as images but how do I do bin files as images?
[08:21] <dimeo> trixsey:  here's some essentials beside automatix
[08:21] <tristan_> how do I configure nautilus ?
[08:21] <EnsignRedshirt> jrib: Why? What is special about the file, or about visudo?
[08:21] <dimeo> $sudo apt-get install cream gtodo	notecase streamtuner smbfs checkgmail brightside beagle
[08:21] <dimeo> goobox gstreamer0.8-lame
[08:21] <Malachi> bigfuzzyjesus: Well, I need to just change the KDE theme.
[08:21] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to get the driver working for the onboard NIC on my new mobo.  Once I load a driver, how can I simply test to see if the NIC is now usable?  Should it show up when I do ifconfig -a ?
[08:21] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: visudo checks your syntax
[08:21] <Judicata> Malachi: its "exaile!" just, fyi :)
[08:21] <Trixsey> dimeo?
[08:21] <Trixsey> what do you mean :)
[08:21] <tristan_> I want to tell nautilus to cache CD images for burning in a specific directory
[08:21] <Trixsey> I'm looking for programs :D
[08:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> malachi are you running amarok in gnome
[08:22] <Trixsey> I've been using Ubuntu for about a month.. I know the basics in terms of commands
[08:22] <dimeo> some good games are:  $sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble toppler supertux planetpenguin-racer airstrike wormux tremulous xmoto nexuiz rrootage supertuxkart vegastrike
[08:22] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: the reason I know you can edit it with a text editor is that people come in here after doing so and making syntax errors.  Then they have no sudo
[08:22] <john1987> nn531 usually .bin files come together with an index file with extension .cue or .toc or may other
[08:22] <Trixsey> oh nvm.. thx :)
[08:22] <morpheo> hey,boys I am new in ubuntu, somebody helps me
[08:22] <trev_> i think 3d excelleration somehowe got turned off on my machine, how would a re-enable it?
[08:22] <jrib> !helpme | morpheo
[08:22] <ubotu> morpheo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> morpheo, with what
[08:22] <dimeo> and dont forget to get enemy territory, america's army too
[08:22] <wheels3572> jrib, shows no sign of it
[08:22] <dimeo> tremulous is the best
[08:22] <nn531> john1987: yes i see that, now how do I burn them in ubuntu as an image?
[08:22] <jrib> wheels3572: well that is pretty strange
[08:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> dimeo, do they have AA for linux
[08:23] <EnsignRedshirt> jrib: I see. But the name 'visudo' makes me think I have to know vi to edit it.  That's annoying.  I haven't used vi in years.. decades, even.
[08:23] <wheels3572> jrib, but i have watched it download for the past 4hrs
[08:23] <wheels3572> jrib, tell me about it
[08:23] <dimeo> enemy territory doesn't come from apt-get though... but it's good
[08:23] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: it respects $EDITOR
[08:23] <aalhamad> thinking C++ is an advance book...?
[08:23] <dimeo> bigfuzzyjesus: sure.. but not the most recent version
[08:23] <john1987> nn531 open the list file(.cue or .toc or sothing alse)
[08:23] <jrib> wheels3572: you could try searching for files of the right size if you really want to get to the bottom of this...
[08:24] <dimeo> version 2.5 I think
[08:24] <EnsignRedshirt> jrib: So if I set $EDITOR, and run visudo, it will actually use the editor that I specified?
[08:24] <dimeo> trixsy does that help?
[08:24] <bigfuzzyjesus> dimeo, can you connect to the normal server though
[08:24] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: yes
[08:24] <EnsignRedshirt> jrib: Ah, that's more agreeable. :)
[08:24] <Judicata> Trixsey: Go to "System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager" and go crazy if you just want to try out millions of apps.
[08:24] <nn531> john1987: i see fa bunch of things/... well 3 lines
[08:24] <dimeo> bigfuzzy I think just the linux players using 2.5
[08:24] <wheels3572> jrib, ok how do i go bout doing this?
[08:24] <bigfuzzyjesus> orly
[08:25] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: or at least I think it does... there is definitely some way to change it though
[08:25] <Trixsey> dimeo, thx a lot :D
[08:25] <kitche> bigfuzzyjesus: america army is no longer made for Linux so you have to use an older version
[08:25] <nn531> john1987: it says track 01 Mode1/2352 and on the second line index 01 00:00:00
[08:25] <jrib> wheels3572: well first, can you close firefox, open it back up and still "open" the iso?
[08:25] <dimeo> Judicata:  don't use just love with apt-get though how you can paste one line and get the 10 best apps you need with one command?
[08:25] <bigfuzzyjesus> kitche, why does every ditch on linux
[08:26] <bigfuzzyjesus> kitche, do they not see it is getting more popular
[08:26] <wims> ditch ?
[08:26] <dimeo> I'm installing ubuntu on a new laptop... and wammo... letter rip... and I've got everything I wanted installed with one sentence!
[08:26] <wims> ahh right i understand
[08:26] <Trixsey> Judicata, I don't want nor can try all of them.. which is why I'm asking for recommendation
[08:26] <kitche> jrib, EnsignRedshirt:  man visudo tells you how to change editors for visudo
[08:27] <kitche> bigfuzzyjesus: well considering the army made america's army they decided to just use windows
[08:27] <EnsignRedshirt> kitche: Thanks.  Setting EDITOR seems to have worked, but I'll take a look at that manpage, too.
[08:27] <kitche> EnsignRedshirt: EDITOR will only work if the editor you choosen works with visudo
[08:28] <Skrit> hi three! I've tried to set an higher resolution for my ttys by passing the vga=791 option to my grub kernel load line... When it comes to boot up the kernel, I get a message that I've passed an invalid value to the vga settings, I then have the option to scan for the available resolution which highest is 800 x 600. Can anyone tell me why would my highest resolution be that low while my screen easily support up to 1280 x 1024?
[08:28] <wheels3572> jrib, let me go see
[08:28] <dimeo> if you want a good 3D game on ubuntu... tremulous is *certainly* the most innovative FPS I've seen in a while... I'm not missing Counterstrike much anymore
[08:28] <EnsignRedshirt> kitche: I just read that paragraph :)
[08:28] <frogzoo> dimeo: sudo apt-get install everything ; E: Couldn't find package everything   :(
[08:28] <nn531> john1987: you there?
[08:28] <kitche> dimeo: yeah tremulous is good I played it when it was a quake mod
[08:28] <EnsignRedshirt> kitche: Looks like nano is in the list.
[08:28] <john1987> yes
[08:28] <dimeo> frogzoo;  worth a shot though
[08:28] <Skrit> dimeo: enemy territory forever
[08:29] <john1987> nn531 do you yahoo?:P
[08:29] <dimeo> frogzoo:  try  $ sudo apt-get install everything-super-cool
[08:29] <nn531> john1987: aim?
[08:29] <dimeo> ;p
[08:29] <john1987> nop
[08:29] <Malachi> bigfuzzyjesus: Yes, I am. Sorry, I left.
[08:29] <nn531> msn?
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> apt-get install world-peace
[08:29] <frogzoo> dimeo: job for a meta package fer sher
[08:29] <wheels3572> jrib, well that answered that quickly.  i cant open it.  it does NOT exist it said
[08:29] <dimeo> =) hah ... good luck
[08:29] <jrib> wheels3572: k
[08:29] <john1987> yahoo
[08:30] <dimeo> $ sudo apt-get remove bush-conspiracy
[08:30] <bigfuzzyjesus> Malachi, then you can only change the appearance through gnome
[08:30] <jrib> wheels3572: are you sure you didn't accidentily "open" the file in firefox isntead of "save as..."
[08:30] <wsjunior> is it possible to read ms with ubuntu? ms = memory stick card
[08:30] <Skrit> any suggestion about my resolution problem in virtual terminals?
[08:30] <wsjunior> i have a Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
[08:31] <Malachi> bigfuzzyjesus: Well, for example, I can change the Qt interface with Qt-config. But not the colors and stuff.
[08:31] <wsjunior> but i cant read memory sticks
[08:31] <wsjunior> somebody told me it isnt supported by linux yet, is it true?
[08:31] <sertac> anybody installed glassfish
[08:31] <sertac> ?????
[08:31] <dimeo> sertac what is it?
[08:31] <sertac> lg3d
[08:31] <wheels3572> jrib, ummmm i just clicked on the link to download and it started downloading
[08:31] <sertac> java sun desktop
[08:32] <OmegaCenti> Hello Everyone. I am new to Linux and I am now running Ubuntu! :-D
[08:32] <sertac> 3d superb
[08:32] <bigfuzzyjesus> Malachi, i dont know, you stumped me :), have you checked the forums
[08:32] <bigfuzzyjesus> OmegaCenti, congrats
[08:32] <dimeo> congrats omega! welcome to the rest of you life =)
[08:32] <OmegaCenti> Thanks bigfuzzyjesus :)
[08:32] <Malachi> bigfuzzyjesus: Trying there next.
[08:32] <surgy> i need help getting my ipod to mount and the re mount every time its connected
[08:32] <OmegaCenti> dimeo :)
[08:32] <Skrit> sertac, since it runs on java, I assume that thing is pretty much ram hungry?
[08:32] <surgy> it is not mounted now although kinfocenter says "usb device: ipod"
[08:32] <sertac> :D
 it seems so intelligent.
[08:32] <sertac> skrit may be
[08:33] <sertac> but i love java and sun
[08:33] <jrib> wheels3572: try right clicking and "save as..." instead.  I think you can have default behaviors on files, so that for example when you click on a .wmv it will open in your movie player instead of downloading it
[08:33] <nn531> can anyone help me with buring images to cd's?
[08:33] <gabaryah_> i'm running xp & ubuntu in dual boot something has gone wrong
[08:33] <TooR4u> i think i am loosing some features when i bind with my linux box
[08:33] <gabaryah_> when i boot up my pc i get bootmgr is missing
[08:34] <dimeo> whats the best ubuntu-edgy eyecandy I should install?  I looked at compiz, but it's too resource hungry for wiggly windows... anything else worth doing?
[08:34] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Are you awake ?
[08:34] <ctothej> how do I run a .debdiff file?
[08:34] <gabaryah_> but when i boot up my pc with ubuntu live cd & select boot from first drive grub starts
[08:34] <gabaryah_> can any help me fix this problem please
[08:34] <old-monk> surgy: there's a bug in the ipod in that it reports the wrong disk geometry and when linux try to read the disk the ipod crashes, there is a patch for it but i don't know if its already in ubuntu
[08:34] <jrib> ctothej: you don't, it's a diff
[08:34] <Ignite> dimeo, you might wanna install the gnome art manager and take a visit to gnome-looks.org and art.gnome.org.
[08:35] <OmegaCenti> In Gaim how do I turn off people entering and leaving the room? It is filling my entire window
[08:35] <dimeo> nn53
[08:35] <dimeo> use gnomebaker
[08:35] <ctothej> jrib, i want to apply it
[08:35] <stoo> is it possible to defrag a usb pen drive in ubuntu?
[08:35] <stoo> !defrag
[08:35] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[08:35] <stoo> !defrag usb
[08:35] <dimeo> !defrag iraq
[08:35] <ubotu> defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-7 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 208 kB
[08:35] <OmegaCenti> lol :)
[08:35] <dimeo> ;p
[08:35] <wheels3572> jrib, ok i will try that see what happens for the next 4hrs
[08:35] <gabaryah_> can anyone help my fix my dilema
[08:35] <aalhamad> anybody heard about www.cprogramming.com?
[08:35] <gabaryah_> :(
[08:36] <Ignite> aalhamad, do yourself a favor and get a book. ;)
[08:36] <tristan_> ok, how do I copy a CD in ubuntu ?
[08:36] <tristan_> really simple question I know
[08:36] <dimeo> tristan.. gnomebaker?
[08:36] <gabaryah_> from ubuntu
[08:36] <aalhamad> but thinking C++  is too advance for me..
[08:36] <OmegaCenti> tristan_:  It seems from what I gathered so far in the conversation, you should use an application called gnomebaker.
[08:36] <tristan_> gnomebaker - ok
[08:36] <dimeo> tools copy data cd?
[08:36] <christopherl> anyone know how to remove Ubuntu 6.10 bootup splash screen?
[08:36] <KenSentMe> How can i split i 6 GB file in to two files and how can i combine them later?
[08:36] <jrib> ctothej: use patch I think, depends on what that file really is
[08:37] <aalhamad> can you recommend a beginner book?
[08:37] <beasty> google :p
[08:37] <sertac> linux bible
[08:37] <sertac> may good book
[08:37] <tristan_> OmegaCenti, dimeo: the strange thing is - right-click on the CD icon says "Copy CD..."
[08:37] <matt3213> KenSenMe: use dd
[08:37] <tristan_> OmegaCenti, dimeo: and then it burns some crap that doenst play in a CD player
[08:37] <tristan_> OmegaCenti, dimeo: where should I file that bug ?
[08:37] <Ignite> aalhamad, have you ever written software before?
[08:38] <stoorty> !defrag
[08:38] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[08:38] <OmegaCenti> tristan_: , I am so new to linux it is not even funny. I only gathered that little piece of information in the last 5 minutes that I was in this chatroom. Please, defer all questions to someone with more knowledge than me. I apologize in advance :)
[08:38] <dimeo> tristan... interesting.. dunno.. tried gnomebaker yet?   U doing audio or data?
[08:39] <dimeo> Gnomebaker has a copy audio CD option under tools
[08:39] <ringdonut> Hello everybody!
[08:39] <aalhamad> Ignite yes but on VB
[08:39] <mister_roboto> aalhamad: thinking in c++ is very good and is available for free on the net!  very cheap to try and see if it works for you
[08:39] <aalhamad> is a petroleum software
[08:39] <christopherl> disable bootup splash screen?
[08:39] <OmegaCenti> stoorty: Is your usb drive already formatted to fat file system?
[08:39] <tristan_> dimeo, I'm installing gnomebaker now
[08:39] <nn531> is there a way to burn bin / cue images to a cd using cd/dvd creator?
[08:39] <ringdonut> I keep getting an error when trying to run StepMania on Xubuntu 6.10
[08:39] <dimeo> Tristan.. isn't it default in ubuntu-edgy?
[08:40] <tristan_> dimeo, aperently not :)
[08:40] <dimeo> it's under accessories for me
[08:40] <tristan_> heh
[08:40] <aalhamad> i have a book called How to program (DEITEL & DEITEL ) .. do you recommend it?
[08:40] <OmegaCenti> I remember reading that dimeo
[08:40] <aalhamad> Third edition
[08:40] <tristan_> dimeo, I only had one CD though
[08:40] <MattyT> StepMania always gave me problems
[08:40] <OmegaCenti> I thought ubuntu only came in a 1 cd live edition though.
[08:40] <matteo> hi all
[08:40] <OmegaCenti> Hello matteo
[08:40] <matteo> why should I put the journal on a different device than the one with the fs?
[08:41] <ringdonut> "00:03.103: Your system is reporting that direct rendering is not available.  Please obtain an updated driver from your video card manufacturer."
[08:41] <tristan_> dimeo, (I mean one ubuntu CD, not one blank one - btw) that sounded off
[08:41] <ringdonut> OMFGZORZ what does it mean?
[08:41] <dimeo> Omega.. they have new versions every few months  -->dapper5.4-->edgy 6.1
[08:41] <OmegaCenti> In Gaim how do I turn off people entering and leaving the room? It is filling my entire window!
[08:41] <mister_roboto> aalhamad: never read it
[08:41] <aalhamad> is very famous boook..
[08:41] <OmegaCenti> Thankyou Dimeo :)
[08:41] <stoorty> OmegaCenti: yes its already formated with fat 32, jsut wondering if i can defrag it from ubuntu
[08:41] <BigToe> Why won't ubuntu recognise my DVD writer as a CD writer as well?
[08:42] <dimeo> Omega there's also a DVD, and non live installers... edubuntu for schools, xubuntu for slower systems....
[08:42] <OmegaCenti> stoorty: No idea, but that should stop the !defrag's now :)
[08:42] <nn531> !image
[08:42] <stoorty> lol
[08:42] <Ignite> aalhamad, a book I quite liked is "The Essence of Programming Using C++" by "Douglas Bell", but it's fairly old now and teaches an old standard of the language, it may be beneficial nevertheless though. I would also recommend learning Ruby, it's a _really_ fun language to write in, you can even get a free ebook here: http://qa.poignantguide.net/ (It's the funniest book I've _EVER_ read, seiously I think you'll love it). And somewhere on the KDE deve
[08:42] <Ignite> lopers website they give a link to download a free copy of Thinking in C++ Vol 1 and 2, lemme find you the links.
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <OmegaCenti> !gaim
[08:43] <mc74x> hola
[08:43] <dimeo> Bigtoe... what program you trying to burn CD's on?
[08:43] <OmegaCenti> Konnichiwa
[08:43] <mc74x> hellos
[08:43] <BigToe> dimeo, k3b and Serpentine
[08:43] <mc74x> i. chilean
[08:43] <surgy> old-monk: umm
[08:43] <Ignite> aalhamad, http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html <-= there you go.
[08:43] <aalhamad> Ithanks
[08:43] <Ignite> Np :)
[08:43] <OmegaCenti> mc74x: Not much english?
[08:43] <dimeo> Bigtoe.. you searched for your DVD model in the ubuntu forums? see if anyone else has the problem?
[08:44] <aalhamad> thanks
[08:44] <surgy> old-monk: i just need it mounted so that i can access it from amarok, ill look up that bug and see
[08:44] <mc74x> um
[08:44] <BigToe> dimeo, I'll have a go...
[08:44] <mc74x> no much enlish
[08:44] <aalhamad> ruby is used for website develop ?
[08:44] <dimeo> ubuntuforums.org
[08:44] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[08:44] <Ignite> aalhamad, no, but it can be via Ruby on Rails which is kind of like an add on for the language.
[08:44] <OmegaCenti> woot.
[08:45] <surgy> old-monk: yeah its been fixed
[08:45] <ringdonut> Has anyone here played Metal Blob Solid? If so, type "lockandload" at the options screen to get cheats.
[08:45] <unperson> So, what is the best/fastest way to tell if my NIC driver is functioning when a load a new module?  Will I see a new entry in the output of ifconfig -a?
[08:45] <mc74x> i needd hel p for compilate kqemu
[08:45] <MattyT> ringdonut: lol thanks
[08:45] <ringdonut> !pydance
[08:45] <dimeo> rigdonut "metal blob solid" is for retro gamers
[08:45] <surgy> old-monk: can you help me mount it please?
[08:45] <Ignite> mc74x, Espaol?
[08:45] <mc74x> yes
[08:45] <Ignite> !es
[08:45] <mc74x> espaol
[08:45] <ringdonut> MattyT: lol
[08:45] <mc74x> ingite
[08:45] <wheels3572> jrib, can i try saving it in just the home folder itself or does it have to be home/wheels
[08:45] <dimeo> ringdonut... so 1990
[08:45] <ringdonut> dimeo: retro games rock!
[08:45] <makuseru> how do i fix the problem of flash objects being ontop of all ojects in a page on Fire Fox
[08:45] <zen> hello can u help me  im just installed kubuntu and on linux for 1 time is there a easy way to get nvidia drivers whit adept as the ones for my card are just for xp i got 7900GS
[08:45] <zen> ???
[08:46] <jrib> wheels3572: you won't have permission there
[08:46] <MattyT> anyone here played moon patrol for atari?
[08:46] <OmegaCenti> ubotu has a lot of load today :)
[08:46] <jrib> wheels3572: use wget if you don't trust firefox and don't want to waste another four hurs
[08:46] <old-monk> surgy: i dont have an ipod myself so i have no idea what your problem is
[08:46] <jrib> hours even
[08:46] <sertac> how can learn offical chat channel adresses
[08:46] <sertac> ?????
[08:46] <dimeo> ringdonut... tried $sudo apt-get install tremulous ?????
[08:46] <Ignite> mc74x, #ubuntu-es
[08:46] <Ignite> ;)
[08:46] <zen> any one can help me?
[08:46] <surgy> old-monk: well isnt it like mounting anything else? like a harddrive?
[08:46] <dimeo> whats up zen?
[08:47] <old-monk> surgy: yes that should do it
[08:47] <mc74x> gracias  ignite
[08:47] <Ignite> yw :)
[08:47] <ringdonut> dimeo: such meaty graphics make my computer die
[08:47] <ubotu> pydance: dancing simulation game similar to the kind in arcades. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-3 (edgy), package size 5757 kB, installed size 7592 kB
[08:47] <zen> i just installed kubuntu and for linux on 1 time i got nvdia 7900GS and nead drivers for it but card just has them for xp so?
[08:47] <surgy> old-monk: well thats what i was asking was for you to help me mount it, thats all
[08:47] <OmegaCenti> Not once have I seen rtfm or stfu or go google it in this chatroom. I am thoroughly impressed with the community so far.
[08:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:47] <dimeo> zen: tried automatix for getting your nvidia drivers?
[08:47] <tibbe> I get grub error 18 when booting for what appears to be for no good reason. I've had the same partition layout on the same laptop before without any problems
[08:47] <old-monk> surgy:  remember usb uses scsi emulation so your ipod will be /dev/sd?
[08:47] <CheshireViking> !firewall |CheshireViking
[08:48] <zen> where is it if u help me dimeo
[08:48] <shadebug> erm, I've just installed ubuntu, but I was never prompted for a root password and now I have no idea how to su, any ideas?
[08:48] <zen> where do i have to get automatix?
[08:48] <wheels3572> jrib ok wget it is ty :)
[08:48] <surgy> old-monk: i have two scsi hdd so the ipod whould be /dev/sdc1 right?
[08:48] <Ignite> zen, you can get it from http://getautomatix.com I believe.
[08:48] <dimeo> ringdonut:   sudo apt-get install toppler
[08:48] <old-monk> shadebug: use sudo and your login password
[08:48] <old-monk> surgy: yup
[08:49] <dimeo> you ever used to play tower toppler back in the early 90s?
[08:49] <zen> ok can u tell me wich drivers to put for nvidia 7900GS?
[08:49] <shadebug> old-monk: does that mean I can't su?
[08:49] <dimeo> classic
[08:49] <ubotu> CheshireViking: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:49] <ringdonut> lol
[08:49] <dimeo> zen:    www.getautomatix.com
[08:49] <old-monk> shadebug: sudo is much safer
[08:49] <zen> and that will install right drivers for my card couse has them only for xp?
[08:49] <Ignite> !nvidia | zen
[08:49] <surgy> old-monk: ok what else do i put in fstab? [mount point]  [options] 
[08:50] <OmegaCenti> Hmmm. I am still having an issue with gaim that I cannot seem to find on the Ubuntu Howto's. I do not yet have the knowledge to turn off people entring and leaving the room notifications.
[08:50] <gabaryah> how do i enable kicker menu the one with seach built in?
[08:50] <TooR4u> old-monk, safer... But u can't access some files in u r system with sudo
[08:50] <shadebug> old-monk: I'm aware of that, but sometimes you need to root around in restricted folders and having to type su for everything can get annoying
[08:50] <Smirnov> Anyone know how to get overscan with mplayer
[08:50] <surgy> old-monk: and dont i have to create a folder for it to be mounted to?
[08:50] <RancidLM> hey all is it safe to clear /var/cache ?
[08:50] <dimeo> zen: give automatix a try... if still stuck search the ubuntuforums.org for your card
[08:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Well, someone's gotta do it...
[08:50] <ubotu> zen: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <EnsignRedshirt> !automatix | zen
[08:50] <zen> thanx
[08:50] <old-monk> surgy: yes you have to create the mountpoint
[08:51] <zen> btw i got nvdia 7900GS has no drivers for linux yet dimeo so nead general ones for nvidia i think
[08:51] <dimeo> zen: sounds probable
[08:51] <surgy> old-monk: can you tell me what the rest of the fstab line whould look like?
[08:51] <nn531> can someone help me with k3b please?
[08:51] <Ignite> nn531, what's the problem?
[08:51] <arrenlex> !somebody | nn531
[08:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Wow, ubotu is sloooooooowwww today.
[08:52] <zen> ok then i put that automatix hoping it installs them click and run im not able to do nothing else now 1 time on linux
[08:52] <ubotu> zen: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:52] <gabaryah> how do i enable kicker menu the one with seach built in?
[08:52] <arrenlex> ...wtf is with ubotu.
[08:52] <kyja> for some reason gaim wont connect to yahoo. was working last night and now it refuses
[08:52] <old-monk> surgy: sorry, i don't have any usb devices so i have no idea what to put in fstab
[08:52] <ubotu> nn531: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:52] <dimeo> zen:  think of ubuntu as your new hobby... it takes time to learn but is very rewarding =)
[08:52] <zen> so i have to put this automatix or not couse the bot says no?
[08:52] <nn531> Ignite: I get an error that says cdrdao returned an unknow error (code 1).
[08:53] <zen> it would be better u paste me the link for nvidia general drivers of i can see if adept has them
[08:53] <nn531> Ignite: tring to burn a binary iso
[08:53] <surgy> been begging for help for hours now, and no luck
[08:53] <Ignite> nn531, sorry not a clue.
[08:53] <RancidLM> can i remove the contents of /var/cache to save some space for backing up?  OR is the information it contains needed?
[08:53] <kyja> automatix is not suported or condoned by ubuntu is not recomended. but there are a few users of it
[08:53] <mc74x> hellow  lord
[08:53] <surgy> been googling all day and no luck
[08:54] <arrenlex> nn531: what problems are you having?
[08:54] <OmegaCenti> surgy: Whats up?
[08:54] <kyja> like me. however. I see what I install with it I ould have installed right from synaptic or apt-get
[08:54] <mc74x> omega centi i need help
[08:54] <nn531> arrenlex: trying to burn a bin image
[08:54] <arrenlex> nn531: Yes, I heard that. What problems are you having?
[08:55] <shadebug> right, so, can you, or can you not, use su in ubuntu?
[08:55] <OmegaCenti> mc74x: Try #ubuntu-es
[08:55] <mc74x> oki
[08:55] <mc74x> gracias
[08:55] <nn531> arrenlex: it wont let me.. operation not permitted
[08:55] <wheels3572> jrib,  there was another way to open up a terminal window but it's not persay a terminal window.  it is a window that can stay open all the time.  What is that and how do I access that?
[08:55] <OmegaCenti> te nada
[08:55] <gabaryah> does ubuntu have a kicker menu like sabayon
[08:55] <surgy> omegacenti: my ipod wont automount, i need a mount point and an fstab entry to make it auto mount when its connected so i can use amarok to manage my music and videos, the problem is that i know what to do i just have no idea how to do it
[08:55] <wheels3572> jrib,  there was another way to open up a terminal window but it's not persay a terminal window.  it is a window that can stay open all the time.  What is that and how do I access that?
[08:55] <roler> Does xorg allow me to change my laptop LCD's color temperature?
[08:56] <zen> did any one find the link to nvidia general drivers?
[08:56] <dimeo> roler.. dunno but I found changing gamma was really easy
[08:56] <roler> dimeo; where did you do that at?
[08:56] <OmegaCenti> surgy: Woah, Okay... I cannot help you. I am terribly sorry since this is my first day with linux, I really hope someone can find the time to help you though. Have you tried posting in the forums yet? if you have hours to wait then the forums might be the best resource available to you.
[08:56] <zen> !nvidia
[08:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:56] <dimeo> roler: xgamma -gamma 1
[08:56] <shadebug> wheels3572: ctrl+alt+f1? and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back?
[08:57] <wheels3572> shadebug, that is it your right ty :). What is that called again?
[08:57] <dimeo> roler: set xgamma to whatever number you like 1.3 or 2.1
[08:57] <surgy> omegacenti: yeah ill probably do that..........but i know its been solved before
[08:57] <Ignite> !ipod > surgy
[08:57] <shadebug> wheels3572: I'd call it the shell or the terminal
[08:57] <OmegaCenti> surgy:  have you tried searching the forums yet?
[08:57] <dimeo> roler:  i wish there was an xbrightness setting for my laptop.. anyideas?
[08:57] <shadebug> wheels3572: if you need more use f2-f6
[08:57] <dimeo> ubuntu needs a screen controller panel under system  u agree?
[08:57] <surgy> yeah gonna go try again though
[08:57] <stevepent3> Hi
[08:58] <OmegaCenti> Goodluck Surgy!
[08:58] <blanky> hi steve
[08:58] <frogzoo> dimeo: brightness is an acpi function, there's probly a hotkey
[08:58] <surgy> ignite: that tutorial helps but it assumes that ubuntu is automounting the ipod and mine is not
[08:58] <gabaryah> does ubuntu have a menu like this one http://techgage.com/print/sabayon_linux_32
[08:58] <OmegaCenti> Hmmm. I am still having an issue with gaim that I cannot seem to find on the Ubuntu Howto's. I do not yet have the knowledge to turn off people entering and leaving the room notifications.
[08:58] <dimeo> frogzoo... not configured to work on my dells brightness keys... any suggestions?
[08:58] <wheels3572> shadebug, ty :)
[08:58] <jford> hey guys, im a newbie
[08:58] <stevepent3> i cannot mount DVD's on my laptop running ubuntu 6.10, the proper libs are installed, any one able to help me get it to work?
[08:58] <JosefK> gabaryah: I've not been able to find that KDE menu yet, but I tried it and hated it before anyway :/
[08:58] <gabaryah> that kicker menu is nice
[08:59] <JosefK> gabaryah: the new SUSE menu for GNOME is in there though
[08:59] <jford> got a simple question... how do i create a shortcut to computer and home on my desktop?
[08:59] <gabaryah> where josefk
[08:59] <zYe> i cant change my resolution
[08:59] <JosefK> gabaryah: the GNOME one is in the gnome-main-menu package
[08:59] <frogzoo> !fixres | zYe
[08:59] <ubotu> zYe: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:59] <JosefK> !gnome-main-menu
[08:59] <ubotu> gnome-main-menu: GNOME start menu applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.cvs.20060915-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[09:00] <blanky> !mountdvd
[09:00] <shadebug> anyone know why amarok's telling me all my mp3s are unplayable or if there's a different multimedia player I should be using in gnome?
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountdvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <dimeo> zYe:  tried ctrl-alt-+ ?
[09:00] <zYe> yea
[09:00] <zYe> isnt working
[09:00] <stevepent3> I am on a Compaq Armada E500 700MHZ Pent 3
[09:01] <Ignite> surgy, was your iPod connected to the computer when you powered on?
[09:01] <blanky> shadebug: are you able to play mp3's at all?
[09:01] <dimeo> shadebug... you installed the mp3 codecs yet?
[09:01] <blanky> shadebug: in any player
[09:01] <shadebug> not on amarok
[09:01] <blanky> !mp3 | shadebug
[09:01] <ubotu> shadebug: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:01] <stevepent3> And for some reason i can read CD's but not DVD's
[09:01] <stevepent3> i cannot even mount DVD's
[09:01] <shadebug> ubotu: ty, I'll have a look
[09:01] <stevepent3> DVD is /dev/hdb
[09:01] <OmegaCenti> dimeo Are you familiar with Gaim?
[09:01] <Ignite> shadebug, you need to install the libxine-extracodecs package from synaptic, that will enable mp3 support.
[09:01] <dimeo> zYe:  tried configuring your xorg.conf yet?
[09:01] <gabaryah> gnome-main-menu i searched for it on synaptic package
[09:01] <shadebug> Ignite: even better
[09:01] <dimeo> omega:  running it now
[09:01] <surgy> ignite: yes
[09:01] <gabaryah> don't see it
[09:01] <dimeo> for irc
[09:02] <JosefK> !universe | gabaryah
[09:02] <ubotu> gabaryah: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:02] <stevepent3> can someone help me?
[09:02] <OmegaCenti> Do you know how in the world to turn off the message entering and leaving the room?
[09:02] <OmegaCenti> It is driving me mad!
[09:02] <pdlnhrd> is there a way to force a reinstall of a package and all of its dependencies ?
[09:02] <Ignite> surgy, try disconnecting your iPod and restarting the computer, then connect your iPod when you are logged in. I had strange things happen with my multimedia card reader when I left SD cards in and powered on... similar to your problem by the sounds of it.
[09:02] <gabaryah> thanks Josefk
[09:03] <gabaryah> google searched found it
[09:03] <dimeo> omega:  makes sense.. not sure.. just been ignoring it... theres an IRC pugings for gaim listed under synaptic... i wonder if that has something usefull
[09:03] <gabaryah> but i still want kicker
[09:03] <pretende1> where can I install codecs for ubuntu 6.10 64-bit version?
[09:03] <OmegaCenti> I will check that dimeo. Thankyou.
[09:03] <JosefK> gabaryah: np's
[09:03] <surgy> ignite: yeah let me try it, but i whould assume kubuntu whould have hotswap with usb so i could unplug and replug when logged in and it whould mount umount acordingly
[09:03] <mnoir> pdlnhrd: synaptic (therefore apt-get as well)  allows reinstall but i do not think it reinstalls dependencies as well
[09:04] <Ignite> surgy, yeah, I can do that fine so long as it wasn't connected when I powered on, no idea what causes it, maybe I should file a bug report...
[09:04] <Alarm> hello. i am using kubuntu 6.10 . after closing my kdetv application , allthouh the proccess stoped , the sound still is playing , i used the alsa . how could i stop the sound ?
[09:04] <pdlnhrd> mnoir:  yeah.. you can add the --reinstall switch to apt-get.. but i think there is something wrong with the dependencies... i can no longer view pdfs  with either acroread or evince
[09:05] <dimeo> pretende:  i passed on the 64 bit ubuntu... ppl were saying 32bit was more up to date
[09:05] <emss> !kqemu
[09:05] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[09:05] <Ignite> Alarm, can you copy the output of the "ps aux" command to pastecode.com?
[09:05] <mnoir> pdlnhrd: if you want to reinstall - i think you will need to march thru them yourself :(
[09:05] <dimeo> pretende... may be 30% faster, but missing 30% of the updates perhaps  =p
[09:05] <pdlnhrd> mnoir:  :(  that sucks... but i guess i will have to try it
[09:06] <Ignite> Erm, on the issues of virtual machines, I'd just like to recommend VirtualBox from virtualbox.org, it's pretty damn awesome, easy GUI and stuff.
[09:06] <Mikelo> my gdm crashes after i insert uname & pass, i am using vesa driver
[09:06] <mnoir> pdlnhrd: what about xpdf - does it work?
[09:06] <Ignite> And it's free (as in beer, some parts are proprietary).
[09:06] <pretende1> dimeo: yeah I have heard it before :) I think Im gonna use 32-bit version but still wandering if I can find codecs for 64-bit version
[09:06] <pdlnhrd> mnoir:  i will try..
[09:06] <Alarm> ok, give me a minute Ignite
[09:06] <mnoir> pdlnhrd: dunno the deps but that might prove out at least some of them
[09:06] <Ignite> Alarm, okay.
[09:06] <BigToe> Ignite, I think I've got my DVD rewriter to work burning CDs :D
[09:06] <Ignite> :D
[09:06] <gabaryah> i downloaded gnome-main-menu.deb
[09:07] <dimeo> ignite: is virtualbox an alternative to VMware?
[09:07] <gabaryah> how do i install it?
[09:07] <Enselic``> Amy polish person here? Did they solve the problem in this polish thread?: http://forum.ubuntu.pl/viewtopic.php?p=96457
[09:07] <Ignite> dimeo, it certainly is.
[09:07] <Ignite> :D
[09:07] <Enselic``> gabaryah, with dpkg
[09:07] <BigToe> I unplugged my old unused CD writer and connected the DVD recorder to the IDE connector on the end of the cable, not the one in the middle of it...
[09:07] <Alarm> Ignite,  http://www.pastecode.com/12130
[09:07] <dimeo> Bigtoe:  sweete.. how'd u end up doing it?
[09:07] <Ignite> gabaryah, double click on it, then click the "install package" button.
[09:07] <BigToe> so it's not really a fix
[09:08] <Alarm> i tried also OSS , but the result was the same. that thing also sometimes causes major problems. if i dont run kdetv and close it from the console but close just the kdetv gui, then many things stap responting, at least like that the only thing that happens is the sound to continue playing
[09:08] <dimeo> ignite:  I got win2000 into a vmware player.. but the webbroswer wouldnt' work and I couldnt' get larger than vga, nor could I access any files but through the CD drive... basically useless?
[09:08] <BigToe> come on come... YES! the CD works! :D
[09:08] <yosyp> What do I need to compile/make things from source?
[09:08] <yosyp> I'm installing a graphics card driver
[09:08] <yosyp> and this is what i get
[09:09] <yosyp> ./install.sh: line 1312: make: command not found
[09:09] <dimeo> ignite: would virtualbox give better results?
[09:09] <EnsignRedshirt> yosyp: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:09] <yosyp> thanks EnsignRedshirt
[09:09] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: i just checked on the irc plugin for gaim - the (very few) features don't do what you want :(  - i use Konversation - it does, plus a lot more.
[09:09] <EnsignRedshirt> yosyp: That will give you 'make', the gcc compiler, and some other stuff.
[09:09] <Ignite> dimeo, VirtualBox is generally on par with Vmware workstation for me.
[09:10] <rx> i use xdm. and fluxbox minimal install. where do i put commands for startup apps??
[09:10] <dimeo> mnoir.. does that involve installing a whole bunch of kde libraries ?
[09:10] <Ignite> Alarm, sorry, I was just going to say to kill the process for kdetv, but it's not entirely obvious which one that is...
[09:10] <Ignite> <_<
[09:10] <Alarm> i did kill it Ignite
[09:10] <mnoir> dimeo: some.  i run kde so for me it is not an issue - wait a sec
[09:10] <Alarm> kdetv isnt running anymore
[09:11] <Ignite> Alarm, and you still have audio playing?
[09:11] <dimeo> ignite:  if you've installed windows on it, can you access the net through ie?
[09:11] <Alarm> yes
[09:11] <Ignite> dimeo, http://virtualbox.org/wiki/Screenshots
[09:11] <dimeo> ignite:  or an outside HD drive?
[09:11] <Ignite> Alarm, sorry, not a clue...
[09:11] <Alarm> okie dokie :)
[09:11] <dimeo> ignite: will take a peek thx
[09:11] <surgy> ignite: well that didnt fix it :(
[09:12] <rx> i use xdm. and fluxbox minimal install. where do i put commands for startup apps??
[09:12] <green-> god, firefox is crashing every 5 minutes now
[09:12] <Ignite> dimeo, I haven't installed Windows in it, I have no need and I lack a license.
[09:12] <OmegaCenti> mnoir thankyou very much!
[09:12] <green-> anyone had issues with firefox crashing incessantly on edgy?
[09:12] <mnoir> dimeo: you might want to look at the list - not many are kde indetified - most look generic - synaptic makes the look very easy
[09:12] <Ignite> surgy, sorry, no idea. :(
[09:12] <makuseru> how can i open a program in a virtual desktop
[09:12] <rx> yea i did but waas w/ swiftfox
[09:12] <yosyp> ok, now make works
[09:12] <bronze_0_1> makuseru: swicth to that desktop, open the program, or did you mean from the command line?
[09:12] <yosyp> but when making
[09:12] <yosyp> this is the error i get
[09:12] <yosyp> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[09:12] <Ignite> green-, yes! All the bloody time, I installed Opera but then found out flash 9 isn't supported in Opera, so now I have to make do.
[09:13] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: warning - yto run it might up your library set if you are not running any other kde apps already
[09:13] <surgy> man feals like a lost cuase
[09:13] <green-> Ignite: i can't find any information out there on why
[09:13] <Ignite> green-, it's funny because on previous installations I've never had this problem...
[09:13] <Ignite> Nor can I. :(
[09:13] <green-> yeah i wonder if i should revert to an earlier version
[09:13] <makuseru> bronze_0_1: not another veiwport but a virtual desktop, so i can run a fullscreen program on one desktop and still do other things on the same desktop
[09:13] <green-> dont want to lose 2.0, but ...
[09:13] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: i think it is worth the bloat.  it is mostly disk space anyway
[09:13] <OmegaCenti> mnoir: I am sorry but I could not follow your last statement. Could you clarify
[09:13] <OmegaCenti> the one before last.
[09:13] <Judicata> yosyp: when you get something like that, it usu. means you need to install a "-dev" file. In this case, it looks like the kernel dev... what are you compiling?
[09:14] <beasty> gnomefreak: are you sleeping already ?
[09:14] <Ignite> yosyp, may I ask what you're installing? It's possible there is a package. :P
[09:14] <EnsignRedshirt> yosyp: Actually, you need kernel headers.  Are you following instructions from a web page somewhere?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> beasty: no
[09:14] <shadebug> erm, I can't find libxine-extracodecs anywhere in synaptics on the universe repository
[09:14] <bronze_0_1> makuseru: right.
[09:14] <beasty> gnomefreak: GO TO BED! :p
[09:14] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: if you are running gnome, you may not have some of the dependency libraries that are part of kde.  they would install automatically but there are some who think the space is a problem
[09:14] <bronze_0_1> makuseru: ubuntu comes with 4 virtual desktop enabled.
[09:14] <EnsignRedshirt> Judicata,  Ignite: yosyp said he was compiling a graphics driver.
[09:14] <Ignite> shadebug, you need to enable the multiverse repository, you can do that with synaptic in one of the menus.
[09:15] <OmegaCenti> Unfortunately, I need to restart, just updated ubuntu. I will be back shortly!
[09:15] <Ignite> EnsignRedshirt, fair enough.
[09:15] <OmegaCenti> thankyou everyone for your help!.
[09:15] <shadebug> Ignite: will do
[09:15] <bronze_0_1> makuseru: or do you want an entirely seperate X-Windows session?
[09:15] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: cya
[09:15] <green-> ignite: maybe it's worth trying one of the nightly builds
[09:15] <makuseru> nevermind, you dont understand what im saying
[09:15] <dimeo> ignite: downloading it now:   I find there's about 1 program i can't run under linux that I absolutely need:  and I hate quitting linux just to run 1 program...
[09:15] <Ignite> green-, I'll probably either install Swiftfox, epiphany or just put up with it.
[09:16] <yosyp> can someone help me install a grahpics driver?
[09:16] <yosyp> please?
[09:16] <dimeo> ignite: this virtualbox may just be the ticket..  it's gnu/free (as in beer) right?
[09:16] <bronze_0_1> startx --:1 > /logfilename.log 2>&1 &
[09:16] <yosyp> i have it, but it doesn't want to build
[09:16] <Judicata> yosyp: you got like, 3 responses earlier. scroll up.
[09:16] <InitMass> how do one make the computer use apic?
[09:16] <Ignite> dimeo, it's free as in beer and most is GPL, there are some proprietary things though, that's just USB support and something else, but that's also free as in beer, so you can just download the ubuntu edgy package.
[09:16] <bronze_0_1> makuseru: Try using the right terminology. "Virtual desktop"  ihas been defined and in use for over a decade.
[09:17] <yosyp> i made a dir ...build in the 2.6.15.27-386/
[09:17] <dimeo> ignite: party on  =)
[09:17] <mrnysegy> hi all, anyone want to help me with my wireless. I've been messing with it for 3 days and no luck. I keep making progress, but not there yet
[09:17] <dimeo> mrnysegy:  no luck with ndiswrapper?
[09:17] <ringdonut> !satan
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about satan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <mrnysegy> nope
[09:18] <yosyp> it complains about
[09:18] <yosyp> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[09:18] <mrnysegy> installed a new pcmcia driver from spm . I can now see the broadcom card in my network manager, but can't select it
[09:18] <dimeo> !bush-oil-military-industrial-conspiracy
[09:18] <Ignite> dimeo, one thing you'll need to do, that confused me a little, is you need to add yourself to a group it creates when it installs, then logout and back in, then restart it by running "VirtualBox shutdown" in the terminal, then starting it from the menu again. Otherwise it doesn't have permission for you... but it's really simple to do, infact, here is a link: http://virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ <-= It's the top Linux users one.
[09:18] <green-> hmm not sure there are even amd64 nightly builds of firefox
[09:18] <yosyp> !bush
[09:19] <gabaryah> how do i change desktop res?
[09:19] <maszlo> I am having problems with getting my sound card working correctly.  I was using an onboard sound card that was cutting out, rather than playing around with getting it figured out in threw a sb live in, and i cant seem to get it to work at all.  device manager sees it but alsamixer will not notice it is there
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <OzoneCo> x11vnc runs until i log in...what stops the program when it goes to desktop?
[09:20] <Ignite> gabaryah, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[09:20] <yosyp> !women
[09:20] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[09:20] <JmGV> hello
[09:20] <rx> i use xdm. and fluxbox minimal install. where do i put commands for startup apps??
[09:20] <rx> i use xdm. and fluxbox minimal install. where do i put commands for startup apps??
[09:20] <JmGV> is there anyway to change from 32bits to 64bits distribution of ubuntu? changing sources in apt?
[09:20] <mrnysegy> I can see my broadcom pcmcia card in network manager 0.6.2 but I can't select it to connect to anything. It is missing the little radio button next to it, like the one next to "wired network"
[09:21] <riotkittie> can we stop abusing the bot? kthx
[09:21] <nothlit> rc-1, in ~/.fluxbox/startup
[09:21] <nothlit> rx, in ~/.fluxbox/startup
[09:21] <rx> i try that
[09:21] <rc-1> nothlit, ?
[09:22] <nothlit> rc-1, sorry tab completion error
[09:22] <rx> by rc-1 u mean?
[09:22] <OzoneCo> http://www.odrakir.com/blog/?p=201 thats what i followed...vnc runs, lets me log in, then when desktop starts, it drops me
[09:22] <gabaryah> how do i change desktop res?
[09:22] <mrnysegy> can anyone help me get my broadcom card working?
[09:23] <nothlit> rx, i meant the fluxbox startup to go to you
[09:23] <OzoneCo> gabaryah: system, preferences
[09:23] <nothlit> rx, you just list all the apps line by line, and if they don't go into the background, you append ' &' to them
[09:23] <nothlit> rx, and make sure exec fluxbox is the last line
[09:23] <Ignite> gabaryah, I already told you, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[09:24] <gabaryah> i don't see preference under system
[09:24] <gabaryah> using kde kicker
[09:24] <maszlo> can someone point me in the direction to getting a sound card configured.. only thing i found was alsamixer but it just errors out
[09:24] <Ignite> gabaryah, it should be the first option under the System menu.
[09:24] <mrnysegy> can anyone help me get my broadcom pcmcia card working?
[09:25] <gabaryah> thanks i found it
[09:25] <n2diy> When I connect to this box remotely via SSH/NFS, the remote box isn't picking up the file associations, but they are ok here. Ie. I have a text file called sig_file, if I double click it here, gedit opens it up, but the remote box says it doesn't know how to open it.
[09:25] <FooAtari> hi. Im about to bite the bullet and wipe XP from my laptop and install ubuntu.  i have a quick question about partitions though
[09:25] <Ignite> FooAtari, go ahead. :)
[09:26] <Zermut> hello.
[09:26] <FooAtari> well after a bit of reading i figure my best option is to go with three partitions.  1gb swap 15 gb root and the rest, 44gb /home
[09:26] <FooAtari> is that a good setup?
[09:26] <Ignite> I would say so. :)
[09:26] <FooAtari> im not sure where apps go when you install them.  say i install google earth would that go in my home partition?
[09:27] <nfp|kelnoky> FooAtari: should work
[09:27] <Zermut> how do you set up a telnet bbs on ubuntu using Synchronet?
[09:27] <nfp|kelnoky> FooAtari: the apps go where you want them to go :)
[09:27] <Ignite> FooAtari, with applications that don't follow convention you can either install them in /opt or in your home directory.
[09:27] <SirWellington> Yo, I'm having a really weird issue.
[09:27] <FooAtari> i see, where is best to install then?  im pretty clueless about linux file system
[09:27] <SirWellington> Screensaver turned on, locked the box. Rebooted and now I'm stuck at a resolution of 800by600
[09:28] <Zermut> nice name FooAtari, did you have an Atari computer a long time ago?
[09:28] <FooAtari> lol, yeah. And ST
[09:28] <dimeo> mrnyseguy:  i got a few broadcom cards working with ndiswrapper over the years...  keep trying... search the forums:  ubuntuforums.org
[09:28] <SirWellington> as opposed to 1280x1024
[09:28] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: check you xorg.conf display settings
[09:28] <SirWellington> I tried changing the screen resolution, although it does not list any other option then 800by600
[09:28] <SirWellington> and Its the exact same.
[09:28] <FooAtari> *An ST even....
[09:28] <SirWellington> my xorg.
[09:30] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Its the SAME.
[09:30] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: file is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, there are some lines telling X which resolution to use, add 1280x1024 manually
[09:30] <maszlo> My soundcard is shown in device manager.. but lspci -v  does not show it, any clue how to get past this point to get this card working?
[09:30] <FooAtari> so, is 15gb liklely to big enough?  say i install google earth in /home and i upgrade or change distro would i be able to run it without reinstalling google earth? i know that /home saves files and settings just wondering how it works
[09:30] <Zermut> FooAtari, I used to have an Atari 1040STf along with an SC1224 color monitor, SM124 monochrome monitor, a 20 meg SupraDrive hard drive and an old 14.4k US Robotics HST modem....
[09:30] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Dude, I'm telling you I setup my xorg.conf. Its Exactly the same as it oringally  was.
[09:31] <Smirnov> Can I install RealPlayer codecs so I can play real media files from mplayer.. or no?
[09:31] <fjhfhjf> hola
[09:31] <zero_> #ubuntu-netinst
[09:31] <FooAtari> awesome setup :)  I had a 1040 fm and a 14" colour TV.  i had no idea there was modems available for the ST. i was only young when we had it
[09:31] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Ill pastebin it if you want?
[09:32] <Ignite> FooAtari, system wide configuration is stored in /etc, user specific configuration in the users home directory.
[09:32] <Zermut> I remember them......
[09:32] <GPL-Chewbacca> paste just Modes line
[09:32] <OmegaCenti> Woof! Okay I am installing konversation
[09:32] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Although I am useing beyrl
[09:32] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Hold As I pastebin
[09:32] <Zermut> FooAtari, I used to have one of those Atari STacy 4 laptop computers when they came out.....
[09:33] <GPL-Chewbacca> beryl shouldn't be a problem
[09:33] <gabaryah> sudo dpkg gnome-main-menu_0.0.cvs.20060915-1ubuntu1_i386.deb doesn't work
[09:33] <OmegaCenti> 86MB of data isnt too bad for dependencies. Thankyou mnoir
[09:34] <Ignite> gabaryah, just double click on .deb files on your desktop to install them.
[09:34] <FooAtari> bit of an ST fan then? ill look that up. I just played games on it :-) I was around 11 at the time, and that's all I was worried about
[09:34] <Ignite> gabaryah, if you _have_ to use the CLI, you need to pass the -i option to dpkg
[09:34] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: i really like konv - it has good autocomplete, good server mgt and good silencers :)
[09:34] <Zermut> it could have been around 1988.......
[09:34] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: I'm pretty sure I know what borked it. Its when the screensaver kicked in it changed the res to 800by600. But it also locked my machine for some reason. So I had to hardboot *hurk* and afterbooting it was in 800by600
[09:35] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: There isnt even a pratcial way an application can change my Xorgfile
[09:35] <FooAtari> right im going to go for it, hopefully see you on the other side...  Nice talkin to u Zermut, maybe catch u later
[09:35] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Case and point http://pastebin.com/863759
[09:35] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabarayah: if you're trying to install a package, you have to use -i switch after dpkg in order for command to work
[09:35] <n2diy> ! Remote Desktop
[09:35] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: even if i did not run kde as my primary i would agree with you - but there are purists :) and folks with tiny disks :)
[09:35] <Zermut> ok
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Remote Desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <gabaryah> ityped sudo dpkg gnome-main-menu_0.0.cvs.20060915-1ubuntu1_i386.deb won't install
[09:36] <gabaryah> damn i'm such a linux noob:(
[09:36] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabarayah: type sudo dpkg -i gnome-main-menu_0.0.cvs.20060915-1ubuntu1_i386.deb won't install
[09:36] <EnsignRedshirt> gabaryah: You need -i after dpkg, if you are trying to install it.
[09:36] <SirWellington> n2diy: ubuntu comes preinstalled with remote desktop packages. the two common ones are VNC and XDMCP
[09:36] <gabaryah> thanks
[09:37] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: hello ther
[09:37] <psYchotic> *there
[09:37] <OmegaCenti> mnoir: Lol I cannot even grasp the concept of a purist with little to no knowledge at all of linux and its inner workinbgs. Being used to Micro(some expletive insert here) bloatware, 86MB's is a godsend.
[09:37] <gabaryah> where can i find info on linux apt-get & dpkg
[09:37] <n2diy> SirWellington: roger that, I'm googling now to figure out how to use them.
[09:37] <SirWellington> n2diy: Personally I like VNC, just hit system - prefrences  - remote desktop.
[09:37] <psYchotic> gabaryah: man apt-get
[09:37] <psYchotic> gabaryah: man dpkg
[09:37] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: which driver you're using with your ATI card?
[09:37] <gabaryah> cool
[09:37] <mouser25> XFree68-DRI missing after installing Xgl
[09:37] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Radeon.
[09:37] <n2diy> SirWellington: ah, ok, I'll give that a try.
[09:38] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Flgx does not work with beyrl.
[09:38] <gabaryah> question the menu is for gnome but can i make it work for kde also?
[09:38] <psYchotic> gabaryah: what menu?
[09:38] <olol> Hi, can someone help me? when i install Ubuntu the screen turns pitch  black, wgat can that be?
[09:38] <n2diy> SirWellington: yesterday I set up NFS and Samba, will that interfere with VNC?
[09:38] <gabaryah>  gnome-main-menu
[09:38] <psYchotic> gabaryah: I dunno
[09:38] <SirWellington> n2diy: thats whats nice about vnc. You can actually install it on every linux or windows pc withing your hosue
[09:38] <ucordes> !nfs
[09:38] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:39] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: hmmm, it should work, could you paste your entire xorg.conf on pastebin please?
[09:39] <rulus> olol: probably a driver issue
[09:39] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: I just managed to change my resolution
[09:39] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: you should check out some of the minimalist window managers - xfce, ratpoison, some others.  ratpoison doesn't even use the mouse :)
[09:39] <SirWellington> n2diy: Although, itdoes not play nice with beyrl or compiz.
[09:39] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: K.
[09:39] <olol> Hi, can someone help me? when i install Ubuntu the screen turns pitch  black, wgat can that be? PM me if u got answer
[09:39] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Are you awake yet ?
[09:39] <rulus> olol: try pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1
[09:39] <Spee_Der> COOL!
[09:40] <olol> ctrl alt F1 , doesnt work, stays black, this is under installation
[09:40] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I just got my dual head video card working at the resolutions I was needing !
[09:40] <OmegaCenti> mnoir: Might you know of a way to install files from the internet onto here? When I tried using something that didnt have a package installer, or found an application that was not in the package manager I searched for a few on the internet, when I found one, I had no idea on what to do.
[09:40] <gabaryah> does ubunto have xorg 7.*
[09:40] <OmegaCenti> Any help in that particular sense?
[09:40] <rulus> olol: try with the alternate install cd, this should world well
[09:40] <gabaryah> installed
[09:40] <Paul-Way> Hi.
[09:40] <olol> rulus: WHER4E CAN I FIND THAT?
[09:40] <funkyHat> If I double click an email in beagle it tries to open it with Firefox... how can I make it open with Evolution?
[09:40] <Paul-Way> I have a problem.
[09:40] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: cool, I'm not very pleased though
[09:40] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: depends on the package - there are a few standard ways...
[09:40] <sunshine> hi
[09:41] <rulus> olol: wait a second, i'll fetch you a link
[09:41] <Paul-Way> char-server: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by char-server)
[09:41] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Why ?
[09:41] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: ALso in my xorg ignore the leftof sorts. ITs a multi monitor display setup that doesnt work. It still works as a single display
[09:41] <mnoir> OmegaCenti: join me in #ubuntu-classroom for a moment?
[09:41] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I need to make a beer run, be back in a few whiles.....
[09:41] <n2diy> funkyHat: system/prefs/preferred apps.
[09:41] <mikey_la> just installed 6.10 server and on boot i get "grub loading please wait" and it just sits there. ideas?
[09:41] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: http://pastebin.com/863766
[09:41] <OmegaCenti> sure mnoir :D
[09:41] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: to change my resolution, I had to pretty much remove everything from my xorg.conf, and then change my video driver from "nvidia" to "nv". So ok, I can change my resolution, but now the only two options are "800x600" and "640x480"
[09:41] <rulus> olol: which version? edgy, dapper, ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu?
[09:41] <olol> ubuntu
[09:42] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Ohhhhh listen
[09:42] <rulus> olol: dapper or edgy?
[09:42] <olol> dunno
[09:42] <funkyHat> n2diy, that's set correctly...
[09:42] <pirx> i am trying to install libapache_mod_mono and i am getting dependency errors.  mono-apache-server (< 1.1.14) but 1.1.17.1-2 is to be installed or mono-apache-server2 (< 1.1.14) but it is not going to be installed.  does that make any sense to anyone? how do i fix it?
[09:42] <n2diy> Spee_Der: you playing in the contest? 20 is in pretty good shape.
[09:42] <GPL-Chewbacca> ok
[09:42] <rulus> olol: 6.10 or 6.06 / stable or lastest and greatest
[09:42] <n2diy> funkyHat: hmm?
[09:42] <hellboy> guten Abend allemal
[09:42] <olol> ps, its on an old computer with only 64mb Memmory
[09:42] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I had troubles getting the correct resolution for 2nd monitor, but tell me where to post my xorg.conf and perhaps it will help you....
[09:43] <rulus> olol: then you should try xubuntu, will be a lot faster than ubuntu
[09:43] <mikey_la> anyone?
[09:43] <kcinna> my microphone wont work with ubuntu, any suggestions?
[09:43] <Wojciech> Hi everyone. I just installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft and have a problem: I have three partitions on my HD (/, Swap, and a general ext3 for storage). How can I mount what I think should be HDA3 (and it appears in /dev/ dir)??
[09:43] <Paul-Way> Hey, can somebody help me, plz?
[09:43] <olol> latest i thing
[09:43] <funkyHat> n2diy, ah, just changed it from evolution to evolution 2.2 (dunno if that will help but worth a try)
[09:43] <Spee_Der> n2diy: No. I have been working on this dual head video card since 1 a.m. local
[09:43] <SirWellington> psYchotic: your setting a multi monitor setup?
[09:43] <olol> is 64MB, ram memmory enough for xubuntu
[09:43] <norf-ubu_> hi - i've installed hamachi - all well and good works fine - but how do i make it so that it auto starts on reboot instead of dropping to shell and typing sudo /sbin/tuncfg followed by password and then hamachi start
[09:43] <n2diy> Spee_Der: roger that, congrats on getting it working.
[09:44] <funkyHat> n2diy, nope... still tells firefox to open it
[09:44] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I had to reduce in the xorg.conf file in order for the 2nd monitor to grab proper resolution.
[09:44] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Thanks. I am most pleased.
[09:44] <rulus> olol: where do you live? so I can pick a mirror near you
[09:44] <shadebug> anyone know where I might be able to find information on using JACK in ubuntu?
[09:44] <olol> Finland
[09:44] <Spee_Der> !jack
[09:44] <SirWellington> Spee_Der: Are you having a dual monitor widescreen setup?
[09:44] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[09:45] <Alarm> on /etc/network/interfaces. on eth0 broatcast , what ip should that ip ? my routers ip, my local machine ip, or my internet ip ?
[09:45] <rulus> olol: here's the link for xubuntu edgy alternate installer: http://ubuntu-cdimage.datahop.it/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[09:45] <Spee_Der> SirWellington: Simply, dual monitor(s). Each with own task bars and desktop(s).
[09:45] <boabsta> what does ubuntu 6.06 use to automatically mount devices?
[09:45] <mikey_la> i just installed 6.10 server and on boot i get "grub loading please wait" and it just sits there. raid is off. ideas?
[09:45] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: ok, now with the "nv" driver I can use all the resolutions that my monitor supports, but WHY do I need the "nv" driver
[09:45] <SirWellington> Spee_Der: What card?
[09:45] <shadebug> anyone know where I might be able to find information on using jackd in ubuntu?
[09:45] <rulus> olol: and here's the link where all the installers are listed: http://ubuntu-cdimage.datahop.it/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/
[09:45] <Spee_Der> SirWellington: nVIDIA GE Force (NV34) 5200
[09:45] <SirWellington> Spee_Der: Oh nvidia, your lucky. ATI cards with that cant use beyrl or compiz at high resolutions with a multi monitor setup.
[09:46] <belkin> with what package im able to put together some vob files and then convert them to divx ?
[09:46] <Spee_Der> SirWellington: It has been a long difficult journey, but well worth the time and effort.
[09:46] <kcinna> !microphone
[09:46] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Thoughts on the resolution issue?
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <makuseru> is there any way to run a fullscreen program in its own window?
[09:46] <SirWellington> Spee_Der:Lucky, heh. I'm caving and just buying a widescreen monitor soon.
[09:46] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: I tried both 'nv' and 'nvidia'. Phew, lot of work.
[09:46] <kcinna> !mic
[09:46] <SirWellington> Spee_Der: 24inch....
[09:46] <Al|Linux> I've been following the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281, when I get to the sudo make install part I get errors, but not before :s
[09:46] <EnsignRedshirt> kcinna: I might have a few suggestions, but I'm no expert.
[09:47] <Spee_Der> SirWellington: Nice.
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <surgy> ok i have officially been all over the forums, googled forever and still cant find my answer, the problem is: My ipod is an ipod 2.0 which mounts differently than the old ipods and kubuntu will not auto mount it by defualt, and i need it to auto mount so that i can access my ipod through amarak. can someone please help me?
[09:47] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: lol, so the same xorg.conf, with the tiny difference that I switched from "nvidia" to "nv", now works perfectly
[09:47] <shadebug> !jackd
[09:47] <MattDog> um does ubuntu have gps capability?
[09:47] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: grab me a beer too, will ya?
[09:47] <kcinna> EnsignRedshirt: sure, i really need to make a phone call right now and cant haha
[09:47] <olol> whitch of ubuntu and xubuntu tajkes moore of the computer?
[09:48] <EnsignRedshirt> kcinna: Double-click the volume icon to open up "Alsa mixer"
[09:48] <rulus> MattDog: there are a few gps packages yes
[09:48] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: I think its the gnome res manager thats somehow messing it up.
[09:48] <norf-ubu_> hi - i've installed hamachi - all well and good works fine - but how do i make it so that it auto starts on reboot instead of dropping to shell and typing sudo /sbin/tuncfg followed by password and then hamachi start
[09:48] <evan_> hey there can someone teach me how to setup a serial-laplink?
[09:48] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: try commenting Screen2 and everything concerning Screen2. Also, try regular GNOME session
[09:48] <ubotu> jackd: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.101.1-1 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 352 kB
[09:48] <emss> olol: they are the same
[09:48] <MattDog> and were can i get them?
[09:48] <Al|Linux> anyone know what the problem could be?
[09:48] <shadebug> hmm, that really tells me nothing
[09:48] <emss> olol: xubuntu is just ubuntu with xfce desktop
[09:48] <rulus> MattDog: try 'apt-cache search gps'
[09:48] <Madeye> guys, my dvd device cannot read anything, it's brand new one, same media work on other machines, what would be missing ?
[09:49] <rulus> MattDog: but don't expect too much
[09:49] <funkyHat> olol, xubuntu is lighter than ubuntu
[09:49] <MattDog> apt-cache search gps
[09:49] <Sasquatch> XFCE is lighter than GNOME in general non?
[09:49] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Define "regular" gnome session. Nothing is different exclduing running beryl manager but that doesnt matter because GDM also runs in the lower res now too. While initally they BOTH were at 1280
[09:49] <pretende1> can someone please tell me what are the differences between xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu?
[09:49] <HymnToLife> Sasquatch, yep
[09:49] <rredd4_> how do i remove ubuntu christian edition and go back to just ubuntu.. using dapper
[09:50] <rulus> MattDog: in your terminal, not here :D
[09:50] <swavek> hello
[09:50] <funkyHat> Sasquatch, yep
[09:50] <emss> pretende1: they are all the same just different default desktops, which can all be installed using ubuntu
[09:50] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu Christian Edition, always makes me laugh
[09:50] <kcinna> EnsignRedshirt: ah, the microphone was muted
[09:50] <Sasquatch> pretende1: all three run different desktop managers (essentially your GUI)
[09:50] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Nothing has changed in my xorg. I'm saying it was working fine prior too. The screen2 things shouldnt matter and no application had permission to edit the xorg config. That idea isnt going to work.
[09:50] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: by regular i was thinking the one without beryl, but if GDM is running in low res that it has nothing to do with beryl
[09:50] <EnsignRedshirt> kcinna: Is it working now?
[09:50] <kcinna> EnsignRedshirt: now in sound recorder i get some static, but its not working
[09:50] <pretende1> Sasquatch: thanks :)
[09:50] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: hrm... Why would it change or default itself?
[09:51] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: it shouldn't
[09:51] <psYchotic> !fixres | psYchotic
[09:51] <ubotu> psYchotic: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:51] <Sasquatch> pretende1: no problem :-) xubuntu is usually for slower systems, it has a really light desktop manager
[09:51] <rredd4_> HymnToLife ce wiil not let me go to yahoo or google
[09:51] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Could it be a GDM issue?
[09:51] <fluxd> Hi I am adding application like GAIM to start on startup but next time I login they dont start and the entry is deleted. Can anyone help?
[09:51] <Al|Linux> pam keyring gets errors when installing but not when doing a ./configure. Anyone have a clue why?
[09:51] <MattDog> lol still installing on my laptop up stairs once it gets done will go online and come here
[09:51] <funkyHat> kcinna, check for a 'use secondary mic' switch or something like that... (you might have to go to settings in volume control and add more options)
[09:51] <mister_roboto> pretende1: xubuntu runs a fairly lightweight window manager (xfce) so it's usually better for lower powered machines that are too sluggish with the kde or gnome
[09:51] <EnsignRedshirt> kcinna: In Alsa mixer, select Edit->Preferences
[09:51] <SirWellington> Nope..
[09:51] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: So, you are stuck in one resolution now ?
[09:51] <pretende1> Sasquatch: which one is the best for a beginner?
[09:51] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: I'm not sure if it is GDM or X issue, have you tried reinstalling radeon driver?
[09:52] <JulioB> What's the hot terminal for X these days?  I can't stand's gnome-terminal's inability to pass-through my function keys or to turn off tite. But I don't want to use xterm coz I want to click URLs
[09:52] <belkin> ls there any vob to divx converter in ubuntu ?
[09:52] <Sasquatch> pretende1: Umm, hard to say, both GNOME (ubuntu) and KDE (kubuntu) are quite good
[09:52] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: It also kicked up my sync rate according to my monitor.
[09:52] <swavek> Hello, I'm having a problem with edgy eft:   each time i restart the computer hangs up on a blank screen.
[09:52] <emss> belkin: mplayer/mencoder
[09:52] <EnsignRedshirt> kcinna: Scroll down, click on "Mic boost", and try the mic again.
[09:52] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Looking at it my GDM.conf-custom looks perfect
[09:52] <Sasquatch> pretende1: i use KDE personally... but i think the majority of people use GNOME
[09:52] <funkyHat> JulioB, change gnome-terminal's settings then... you can make it pass through function keys
[09:52] <kcinna> EnsignRedshirt: THANKS!!!
[09:52] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: have install any new package prior to the problem?
[09:53] <EnsignRedshirt> kcinna: Does it work now?
[09:53] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Nothing relative to visual.
[09:53] <fluxd> Hi I am adding application like GAIM to start on startup but next time I login they dont start and the entry is deleted. Can anyone help?
[09:53] <pretende1> Sasquatch: thanks again :)
[09:53] <mister_roboto> pretende1: kde is a little more like windows interface for beginners so might be easier adjustment
[09:53] <kcinna> EnsignRedshirt: yup :)
[09:53] <EnsignRedshirt> kcinna: Cool.
[09:53] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: irssi.
[09:53] <belkin> emss is there also any gui package ?
[09:53] <JvA> Hi! Any developer here who could give me any hint on what tools there are for profiling C/C++ programs? There are of course plenty of different GUI:s out (Eclipse, KDevelop, Anjuta...) there that offers the user help debugging code, but profiling?
[09:54] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: it doesn't have to be related to anything visual, it might be that some newer shared libraries were installed that messed up radeon driveer
[09:54] <crimsun> JvA: gprof
[09:54] <emss> belkin: there are many gui's for opensource
[09:54] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: hold
[09:54] <belkin> emss ie: ?
[09:54] <zx> zyga55
[09:54] <rulus> fluxd: you enter the startup command to System > Administration > Sessions, right?
[09:55] <emss> belkin: gnome, kde, xfce, rox-desktop, fluxbox, openbox, ratpoison, twm, fvwm etc.
[09:55] <fluxd> rulus yes
[09:55] <emss> belkin: the list goes on and on
[09:55] <fluxd> rulus they are not there next time I login even
[09:55] <belkin> emss ??? a gui converter man
[09:55] <rulus> fluxd: this sounds like a bug..., wait a sec
[09:56] <emss> belkin: oh for mplayer/mencoder there are a few I think not sure though
[09:56] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Odd. The only available driver to download is flgx.
[09:56] <NoobieDoobieDo> I don't think my NVIDIA drivers are working - even though they are loaded.  I get bad video performance.
[09:56] <fluxd> rulus thanks
[09:56] <emss> belkin: I think kmencoder or transcode
[09:56] <emss> belkin: you can use google to search or read the docs at http://mplayerhq.hu/
[09:56] <JvA> crimsun: Yes, but I would want it integrated in the IDE, like the compiling and debugging. At least I wish I could ;)
[09:56] <rredd4_> how do i remove ubuntu christian edition and go back to just ubuntu.. using dapper
[09:56] <belkin> emss ok thanks
[09:56] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: there are three ATI drivers. ati (only 2D). radeon and fglrx. the last one is proprietary
[09:57] <emss> belkin: also try searching http://www.kde-apps.org/
[09:57] <belkin> emss i use gnome
[09:58] <emss> belkin: you can use kde applications in gnome, also this http://www.gnomefiles.org/
[09:58] <rulus> fluxd: I can't find a bugreport concerning that issue, maybe file a new one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[09:58] <[dot] Al> is there anyway to bypass the keyring creation when using network manager gnome?
[09:58] <lufis> What's up with tooltips appearing from an out of focus window? Like if I have a focused gnome-terminal over a web page in Firefox, when I move over a link with alt text (and remember gnome-terminal is over the link) the tooltip appears.
[09:58] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: But the point is that i'm currently using radeon. theres no way to reinstall "radeon" considering its open sourced version also more compatable with beyrl
[09:58] <fluxd> rulus I will try that thanks for the moment is there another way?
[09:59] <anto> hello everyone
[09:59] <JulioB> funkyHat: google fails me.  how do you change gnome-terminal's terminal settings?
[09:59] <rulus> fluxd: I don't know actually, maybe anyone else hear has a wonderfull idea?
[09:59] <anto> can somone help me with a wireless network problem?
[09:59] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, anto.
[09:59] <EnsignRedshirt> !ask | anto
[09:59] <ubotu> anto: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:59] <NoobieDoobieDo> Why does my AGP video card say it's on the PCI bus ?
[09:59] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: actually, I just found a fix to change resolutions even when I use the nvidia driver
[09:59] <psYchotic> I'ma add it to the wiki
[10:00] <fluxd> Does anyone here have another way of doin startup programs other than using sessions ?
[10:00] <anto> o well here it gose my father bought a router with a wireless connection and a external usb connector for his laptop
[10:00] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: I don't know, I'm using fglrx with ATI Radeon Mobility x700 and it works fine, with beryl
[10:00] <lufis> fluxd: whats wrong with sessions?
[10:00] <emss> fluxd: ?
[10:00] <anto> ubuntu finds the usb and send packages but it gets nothing in return.
[10:00] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Ok, Ill try using the alternitive ati drivers.
[10:01] <[dot] Al> is there anyway to bypass the keyring creation when using network manager gnome?
[10:01] <fluxd> lufis emss I add them to session- startup but next time I login they dont start and the program entries are deleted
[10:01] <anto> and i can't go on the internet ither (sitting on my own computer with his on my lap)
[10:01] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: IF it breaks X. You lose kudos.
[10:01] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: brb
[10:01] <lufis> fluxd: are you selecting "Gnome default" or "gnome failsafe" in the login screen?
[10:01] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: try this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[10:01] <juan> i have instaled flash on firefox 32 on my ubuntu amd64 machine, but the sound, doesn't work in flas
[10:01] <Spee_Der> psYchotic: Way cool. I now have 1280x1024 on both monitors and working very nicely.
[10:01] <fluxd> lufis I am guessing default I havent changed that before
[10:01] <xixel> live cd wont boot, invalid compressed format (err=2) - checked md5's of isos, veryfied data each time I burned, tried i386 and amd64 iso (dual core 4200+) ... any ideas anyone?
[10:02] <lufis> fluxd: oh, i dunno then. session files should be in your home dir, they're hidden
[10:02] <anto> any idea?? (usb external is DWL-G122
[10:03] <eisma> how do i play mp3 music on rhythmbox?
[10:03] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: you need to install gstreamer-ugly package in order to play mp3
[10:04] <anto> its sending packages but not receving :S
[10:04] <eisma> how do i do that GPL-Chewbacca
[10:04] <eisma> im new with linux
[10:04] <CientificoLoco> hello, how do I install Mecury messenger?
[10:04] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: first you need to enable universe and multiverse repositories in soureces.lst
[10:05] <eisma> how do i do that?
[10:05] <n2diy> Can I transfer files with VNC?
[10:05] <GPL-Chewbacca> type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: then, find the lines that end up with universe or multiverse and uncomment them
[10:06] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: rebooting.
[10:06] <Spee_Der> n2diy: I haven't tried that yet, but everything else works fine in vnc.
[10:06] <EnsignRedshirt> !universe
[10:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:06] <shadebug> !alsa
[10:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:06] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: goodluck
[10:06] <kaso> Has anyone ever tried installing lua on ubuntu? , im having problems and could do with a hand.
[10:06] <Spee_Der> what is lua ?
[10:06] <anto> GPL-chewbacca: my problem is that i cannot go onto the internet the computer finds the usb and tries to send packets but it dosen't receive any.
[10:06] <mouser25> ati fglrxinfo missing XFree86-DRI when running Xorg
[10:06] <eisma> can anyone walk me through getting my mp3 format music to work on rhythmbox?
[10:06] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: Couldn't you just install the ubuntu package?
[10:06] <sidny4> I installed ubuntu 6.06 Server from the alternate CD, then installed XFCE, how do I make it so that it won't start X untill I issue the command?
[10:07] <n2diy> Spee_Der: I just got it set up, looks like I won't be doing much more contesting this afternoon. :)
[10:07] <Judicata> !mps eisma
[10:07] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma:
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mps eisma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <kaso> the package on the apt-get thing is 5.0 i need the latest lua 5.1
[10:07] <Judicata> !mp3 eisma
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 eisma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <sidny4> !mp3 | eisma
[10:07] <ubotu> eisma: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <old-monk> sidny4: edit /etc/initab
[10:07] <Judicata> sidny4: ty :)
[10:07] <sidny4> old-monk: what do I edit in there?
[10:07] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Okay. I just got this xorg.conf fixed and need to make backup before I continue to break it worse.
[10:07] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: first, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: Well, then, in the immortal words of Emily Latella (sp?), "Oh. That's different. Nevermind."
[10:08] <xixel> live cd wont boot, invalid compressed format (err=2) - checked md5's of isos, veryfied data each time I burned, tried i386 and amd64 iso (dual core 4200+) ... any ideas anyone?
[10:08] <GPL-Chewbacca> anto: how are you trying to connect to internet? usb adsl modem?
[10:08] <old-monk> sidny4: the file explaines it, you need runlevel 3
[10:08] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca: done
[10:08] <kaso> Not that i know who Emily Latell is, but thanks for trying anyway
[10:08] <n2diy> Spee_Der: FB, what is your backup strategy?
[10:08] <sidny4> old-monk: /etc/initab doesn't exist
[10:09] <anto> GPL-chewbacca: i'm connecting to a router using a external networking usb. but it dosen't seam to find the router.
[10:09] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: ok, you should have a file with number of lines open, try to find the lines ending with multiverse or universe
[10:09] <old-monk> sidny4: /etc/inittab
[10:09] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca: ok, and a lot of them begin with # signs
[10:09] <GPL-Chewbacca> anto: have you checked your route?
[10:10] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Thanks to the naming conventions that Linux allows, I will stuff it in a /<dir> that is safe. As well as print it out hard copy, just in case....
[10:10] <anto> no problems there i'm sure because this computer works fine.
[10:10] <sidny4> old-monk: ok, thanks
[10:10] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: If you explain the problem that you are having, someone here might be able to help.
[10:10] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: ok, you need to delete # sign in front of the lines ending with multiverse and universe
[10:10] <Spee_Der> n2diy: Eventually I'd like to back-up to dvd(s).
[10:11] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca ok now what?
[10:11] <kaso> well. when i run the makefile it errors saying :     luaconf.h:263:31: error: readline/readline.h: No such file or directory    luaconf.h:264:30: error: readline/history.h: No such file or directory
[10:11] <pommie> kaso : Sounds like you're missing the readline library...?
[10:11] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: ok, now save the file and exit, in console type: sudo apt-get update
[10:11] <aesoper> lol
[10:11] <cyphase> *sigh* I hate it when my mom acts like she's giving me enough information to help her do whatever on the computer, then she gets made because "i don't get it"
[10:11] <cyphase> mad*
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: Look for libreadline#-dev, where # is an integer.
[10:12] <kaso> ok, will do
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: Look for that package, that is.
[10:12] <n2diy> Spee_Der: FB, I started playing with Mondo for backups, but I still have a lot of work to do. The version in the Repos is way out of date, so don't bother with  that.
[10:12] <preaction> cyphase: The little lights are blinking but I can't do anything, fix my computer!
[10:12] <anto> no problems there i'm sure because this computer works fine.
[10:12] <anto> GPL-Chewbacca: no problems there i'm sure because this computer works fine.
[10:12] <Spee_Der> cyphase: Yeh, it takes a lot of patience to be patient, but hang in there..... It'll work out soone or later.....
[10:13] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca: ok it's finished updating. now what?
[10:13] <GPL-Chewbacca> anto: it's a bit complicated network setup for me
[10:13] <xixel> Live CD will not boot, need some ideas
[10:13] <cyphase> Spee_Der: I know, just one of those things..
[10:13] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: I am using dapper, and in Synaptic I see that I have libreadline5-dev installed.
[10:13] <noobie> hi folks, i have a refresh rate problem, its a 32bit machine with ati9800se... i install n configured lastest ati drivers... now i have higher resolutions, but refresh rate stucked in the 60hz... i looked around for some tutorials n messed up xorg.conf but... naaah, not workin... any ideas?
[10:13] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma, now go to synaptic package manager
[10:13] <juan> i have a sound problem with flash, i follow the explanation in http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/index.php/Firefox
[10:13] <Spee_Der> n2diy: I haven't begun to look into any back-up support et, but thanks for the heads up.
[10:13] <kaso> mm, just installed it, and the make worked fine
[10:13] <Spee_Der> cyphase: I know.
[10:13] <kaso> thank for the help
[10:13] <juan> about flash amd64
[10:13] <anto> GPL-Chewbacca: :) i'm only 15 :P so i can say its realy hard for me.
[10:13] <Spee_Der> cyphase: Hang in there.....
[10:13] <Byan> anyone know of a good sata card supported in linux?
[10:13] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca: ok
[10:13] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: No problem.  Have fun with lua.
[10:13] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: ALl that did was break X.
[10:13] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: You worsend the situation.
[10:13] <kaso> i tried doing apt-get install readline eariler, but ofc didnt work
[10:14] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellingnton, just replace fglrx with radeon
[10:14] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: I do now have a high res but when it tries to load gnome it just dies.
[10:14] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: >_>
[10:14] <Judicata> GPL-Chewbacca: SirWellington: Have you guys disabled the composite extension?
[10:14] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca What am I looking for?
[10:14] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: gstreamer
[10:14] <EnsignRedshirt> kaso: I usually use the search function in Synaptic when I need to find a library, or packages.ubuntu.org
[10:14] <GPL-Chewbacca> in search
[10:15] <GPL-Chewbacca> Judicata: probably he didn't add that line
[10:15] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca i download all of the gstreamers?
[10:15] <kaso> how does the search function work? i've not used that before
[10:15] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: select all gstreamer0.10 packages
[10:15] <GPL-Chewbacca> and install
[10:15] <pommie> kaso : In general terms, use synaptic and install libreadline-dev and readline-common
[10:15] <Judicata> GPL-Chewbacca: You gotta explicitly disable it, or its enabled by default, and fglrx won't usually work.
[10:16] <[dot] Al> is wpa_supplicant installed by default on ubuntu?
[10:16] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: tell me if that looks alright to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-aebd81e5fe762bccb1b7e4d7a10ed7a1276aa634
[10:16] <GPL-Chewbacca> Judicata: yeah I know. but i forgot to mention that :(
[10:16] <pommie> kaso : In synaptic, hit Control-F to find matching package names.
[10:16] <Judicata> GPL-Chewbacca: lol. I hope he comes back.
[10:16] <dimeo> ignite:  got virtualbox installed... a question though.... how can i get it to show my DVD/CD drive.... or boot from iso
[10:16] <GPL-Chewbacca> Judicata: me too
[10:16] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca and that's it?
[10:16] <kaso> cool, thanks
[10:17] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: it should work now
[10:17] <kaso> ls
[10:17] <GPL-Chewbacca> try it
[10:17] <dimeo> ignite:  the selection box for my DVD drive is blank... and if I select an iso file, it wont' boot it
[10:17] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Ok, now neither of the two load up full
[10:17] <Byan> does anyone know of a good sata card?
[10:17] <anto> bah i'm gona go mad !!
[10:17] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: you have to add the line
[10:17] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Although now I know radeon driver is somehow setting it up
[10:17] <GPL-Chewbacca> just a sec
[10:17] <anto> why is the stupid router not responding !
[10:17] <GPL-Chewbacca> Section "Extensions"
[10:17] <GPL-Chewbacca>         Option      "Composite" "Disable"
[10:17] <GPL-Chewbacca> EndSection
[10:18] <Ignite> dimeo, click the link for the virtual CD drive, add an ISO image to the disk manager and choose it from the drop down menu, for physical devices I don't think you have to add anything.
[10:18] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca I get this line:
[10:18] <eisma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse:
[10:18] <eisma>  Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[10:18] <deadcat> i am having trouble getting the netgear wg511 (prism54) to work.. what am i missing?
[10:18] <SirWellington> ... for flgx?
[10:18] <Ignite> !wifi
[10:18] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: For flgx...
[10:18] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington, yes
[10:18] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: ...goddamit.
[10:18] <anto> How do i configure the boradcast of the network device?
[10:18] <psYchotic> Spee_Der: anyway, gotta run, I'll be talking to you later about the dual-head setup you have
[10:18] <anto> broadcast*
[10:18] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: sorry
[10:19] <dimeo> ignite: under host cd/dvd drive the drop down selection box is blank.. and if I select an iso file for it to boot from, it gives me a fatal error on boot (no bootable medium found)
[10:19] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: hmm, it might be that you don't have all repositories enabled so apt-get can't find liblame
[10:19] <Spee_Der> Ok, I am reading that page now. Cheers.....
[10:19] <anto> can somone please help me damit :P?
[10:19] <Ignite> dimeo, I don't know, I never had that problem, when you start the VM, try pressing f12 so you can choose which device to boot.
[10:19] <juan> why the sound doesn't work on flash on my amd64, i had been installed firefox 32 with the apropiate 32 library and the alsa-oss library
[10:19] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: try sudo apt-get install liblame
[10:20] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: and if it doesn't work try atp-cache search liblame
[10:20] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca should i install the rest of the gstreamers that i can except that one, then do that?
[10:20] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: What was the line I had to add again?
[10:20] <old-monk> anto: being agressive might ruin you chanses of getting help here
[10:20] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: Section "Extensions"
[10:20] <GPL-Chewbacca>         Option      "Composite" "Disable"
[10:20] <GPL-Chewbacca> EndSection
[10:20] <samalex> hey guys.  I'm trying to remote into my Ubuntu 6.10 box via VNC, and though it works, all I see is an Ubuntu splashscreen at about 640x480.  Any suggestions on how to get a full screen with login to come up via VNC?
[10:20] <AlexC_> anto: people are not getting paid to help you, please respect that. If someone doesn't know the anwser, they don't know. Ask your question later on, someone may know then
[10:21] <n2diy> adaptr: are you on board?
[10:21] <EnsignRedshirt> eisma: GPL-Chewbacca: Just checking... did you do an update (or Reload in Synaptic) after changing sources.list?
[10:21] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: installing gstreamer0.10 should do the trick, you don't need gstreamer0.8 packages
[10:21] <SirWellington> and the driver name for ati's offical thing is flgx?
[10:21] <GPL-Chewbacca> EnsignRedshirt: sudo apt-get update is fine
[10:21] <AlexC_> SirWellington: fglrx
[10:21] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: fglrx
[10:21] <AlexC_> :P
[10:21] <eisma> yeah i did an update
[10:22] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca: Yeah, I meant just download all of the gstreamer0.10 that I can, except for the one that won't let me
[10:22] <dimeo> ignite: know any good support sites for virtualbox... other than the manual?
[10:22] <eisma> gstreamer-ugly-multiverse or something like that
[10:22] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: fglrx.. comp.. k reloading x...
[10:22] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: liblame is (i think) essential for mp3 playing
[10:22] <Cyrus25801> i need some help. i have just installed ubuntu 6.06 but my screen res is only 640*480 and i can't set it higher
[10:22] <GPL-Chewbacca> so you need that library
[10:22] <Judicata> SirWellington: If you've installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-control, disabled composite, and replaced "ati" or "radeon" with "fglrx" it should work.
[10:23] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: in terminal, found in Applications->Accessories type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca how do i get the liblame thing?
[10:23] <juan> esima, go to synapcti, and install the xmms
[10:23] <juan> then you can listen mp3 music
[10:23] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: try this to add more repositories: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Repositories
[10:23] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: find your Screen section
[10:24] <GPL-Chewbacca> juan: it might not work if liblame cannont be installed
[10:24] <Judicata> juan: eisma wants it working in rhythmbox, which involves installing the right gstreamer packages.
[10:24] <juan> i just do it, and work
[10:24] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: this is my Screen section: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2334/
[10:24] <crimsun> eisma: do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[10:24] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: i have done that
[10:24] <GPL-Chewbacca> Judicata: I thought xmms used gstreamer as well
[10:24] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: you should then be able to add your own in,
[10:24] <eisma> Judicata GPL-Chewbacca i just couldn't download one gstream0.10 package and it was..
[10:25] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: can you pastebin your Screen section for me.,
[10:25] <eisma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse:
[10:25] <eisma>  Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[10:25] <eisma> that first line
[10:25] <Cyrus25801> will do
[10:25] <eisma> it wouldn't let me get that one
[10:25] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: that one you need :)
[10:25] <eisma> ok so how do i get it?
[10:26] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: try sudo apt-get install liblame and see what happens
[10:26] <EnsignRedshirt> The package (as the error message says) is liblame0
[10:26] <GPL-Chewbacca> ok
[10:26] <GPL-Chewbacca> sorry
[10:26] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca it said it couldn't find liblame
[10:27] <user01_> koules doesnt work . . . it crashes at startup . . . whats with that?
[10:27] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma; liblame0
[10:27] <GPL-Chewbacca> sorry
[10:27] <eisma> Package liblame0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:27] <eisma> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:27] <eisma> is only available from another source
[10:27] <eisma> E: Package liblame0 has no installation candidate
[10:27] <juan> but liblame is just for to make mp3, not for to listen
[10:27] <W^Hard> from where i can download ubuntu edgy ?
[10:28] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a way to forbid my nm-applet to connect a certain WAP?
[10:28] <wolfwalker> |W^Hard:| Direct download or bit torrent?
[10:28] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca you see that up there?
[10:29] <mwe> user01: it crashes here as well
[10:29] <user01_> is there a way to see how much physical memory is installed and its usage?
[10:29] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: i think it's the repository problem, try adding more repositories, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Repositories and then try again
[10:29] <user01_> mwe: ok good to know
[10:29] <arentoine> Hello all, I'm trying to install SquirrelMail on my newly installed Ubuntu Server 6.10.  But "sudo apt-get install squirrelmail" can'it find it (Yes I did the update command).
[10:29] <AlexC_> user01 System->admin->system monitor
[10:29] <[dot] Al> how can I check my network info (ip address, etc) from cli?
[10:29] <Judicata> GPL-Chewbacca: you know, you can just add standard repos in synaptic.
[10:29] <mwe> user01_: I'm to lazy to file a bug right now, though
[10:29] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: here it is but it doesn't look very diffrent. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2335/
[10:30] <user01_> AlexC_: at the command line?
[10:30] <AlexC_> user01_ System->admin->system monito
[10:30] <blanky> arentoine: sudo apt-cache search squirrelmail
[10:30] <wolfwalker> *shrug*
[10:30] <juan> Chewbacca: liblame is a library for to create mp3
[10:30] <AlexC_> user01_:  no, the menu! System->Administration->@System Monitor
[10:30] <wolfwalker> |W^Hard:| http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[10:30] <Prisoner_> good afternoon
[10:30] <AlexC_> evening,
[10:30] <arentoine> blanky : I did try sudo apt-cache search squirrelmail but returned nothing
[10:30] <mwe> you don't need sudo to use apt-cache search
[10:31] <blanky> arentoine: how about apt-cache search squirrel
[10:31] <blanky> arentoine: I always see it
[10:31] <user01_> AlexC_: hmmm it keeps saying my system has a Gig of system memory...and the ad said only 512
[10:31] <Prisoner_> good afternoon/evening/morning.etc
[10:31] <AlexC_> user01_: then you got more than you paid for =) don't complain ;)
[10:31] <[dot] Al> how can I check my network info (ip address, etc) from cli?
[10:31] <AlexC_> [dot] Al: ifconfig
[10:31] <Prisoner_> I installed a printer on my Ubuntu box a few minutes ago and it looks like it's working
[10:31] <bulmer> [dot] Al: ifconfig -a
[10:32] <wolfwalker> !!!!
[10:32] <arentoine> blanky : nothing.  Do I need to add anithing special in sourcelist ?
[10:32] <blanky> !repos | arentoine
[10:32] <[dot] Al> hmm..it says command not found
[10:32] <user01_> AlexC_: im not that was just a really good deal for $500 then
[10:32] <wolfwalker> |user01:| WHERE did you buy that?!
[10:32] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: it doesn't look very diffrent. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2335
[10:32] <blanky> !repositories | arentoine
[10:32] <[dot] Al> im using WPA_Supplicant, does that make a difference
[10:32] <AlexC_> [dot] Al: ifconfig   not ipconfig :P
[10:32] <blanky> !botsnack
[10:32] <bulmer> [dot] Al: maybe /sbin/ifconfig -a
[10:32] <blanky> where's ubotu?!
[10:32] <mwe> blanky: sick
[10:32] <user01_> wolfwalker: on ebay . . . t40
[10:32] <blanky> mwe: damn
[10:32] <wolfwalker> Oh.........
[10:32] <wolfwalker> Rats
[10:32] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: sorry, I have very crap short term memory! hehe :P Yeah I can't see anything wrong with it O_o
[10:32] <[dot] Al> my bad, should have used sudo ifconfig :P
[10:32] <blanky> arentoine: http://wiki.ubuntu.org 'repositories'
[10:33] <[dot] Al> (newbie error)
[10:33] <blanky> I mean, .com, whatever
[10:33] <AlexC_> [dot] Al: ??
[10:33] <mrnysegy> Hi again, I still need some help with wireless driver installation. I think I found the problem though. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2336/
[10:33] <AlexC_> [dot] Al: no need to use sudo for ifconfig
[10:33] <user01_> wolfwalker: it was a lot of 20 laptops
[10:33] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: so what else can it be
[10:33] <mrnysegy> any ideas on how to fix or diagnose this further
[10:33] <[dot] Al> if I dont use sudo, it says command not found
[10:33] <AlexC_> [dot] Al: weird,
[10:33] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: try this also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:33] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Ok, now beyrl is broken and whenever I try to logout my screen goes black.
[10:33] <ne_DK> hello eveyone...
[10:34] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: tried removing the lower entries and only keeping the ones you need? That may not be wise, though
[10:34] <dimeo> ignite:  someone at #vbox just said.. unmount the cd in the drive first...
[10:34] <[dot] Al> no biggie
[10:34] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: This is causing more problems.
[10:34] <ne_DK> *everyone
[10:34] <arentoine> Blanky : sorry don't understand : want me to go on "http://wiki.ubuntu.org 'repositories'"
[10:34] <EnsignRedshirt> [dot] Al: Did it really say 'command' not found, or was the package not found?
[10:34] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: i can paste my xorg.conf
[10:34] <Prisoner_> I'm a newbie to Ubuntu
[10:34] <blanky> arentoine: go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for repositories, or repository
[10:34] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Beyrl wont start without the composite extension.
[10:34] <[dot] Al> "bash: ifconfig: command not found"
[10:34] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: you can try it, but if it breaks X you'll need to edit it again by sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf when/if it breaks
[10:34] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: This driver...
[10:34] <arentoine> blanky : will do ...
[10:34] <dimeo> prisoner: we all were nOobs at one time... welcome to the club
[10:34] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: y would that show me the diffrent screen res then because i'm only getting 640*480
[10:34] <Spee_Der> Prisoner_, welcome aboard....
[10:34] <[dot] Al> EnsignRedshirt, "bash: ifconfig: command not found"
[10:34] <user01> hmm not all quicktime movies play for me . . . are there other codecs im missing?
[10:35] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: i'm using it at the moment
[10:35] <ne_DK> i need help with boot option for my dell 1501 :D
[10:35] <n2diy> adaptr: are you on board?
[10:35] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Its not starting with composite disbaled
[10:35] <Prisoner_> Thanks, just installed my old HP Deskjet 712C printer, and it works
[10:35] <EnsignRedshirt> [dot] Al: OK... I mixed up a few messages.
[10:35] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: I don't know, I'm no X expert sorry, all I can reccomend is removing the lower values which may not be wise
[10:35] <[dot] Al> definatly works with sudo
[10:35] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: I'm using it with composite extension disabled
[10:35] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Hows pastebin your xorg.
[10:35] <Spee_Der> Prisoner_: Wow, way cool. I need to get mine going also, one of these years....
[10:35] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: thanx mybe someone else can help me
[10:36] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: =) just post your question again
[10:36] <GPL-Chewbacca> Ok
[10:36] <Mikelo> I have a K8M890 based motherboard has anyone here managed to use the onboard video card??? please!!
[10:36] <mrnysegy> can anyone help me with my wireless problem. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2336/
[10:36] <Cyrus25801> could someone help me with a screen res problem i only have 640*480
[10:36] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca I added extra repositories and tried download the gstreamer0.10 ugly packages, and right now they're downloading.
[10:36] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca is that it?
[10:37] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: it should work :)
[10:37] <ne_DK> how do i put temporary boot option on grub loader? i tried with 'e' shortcut but i am not sure it's accepting it ...
[10:37] <OzoneCo> http://www.odrakir.com/blog/?p=201 lets me log on, then dies...any help?
[10:37] <leobloo1> hello! how can I use the repositories on dvd's that i downloaded? I set the repository properties to insatall stuff form them but when I try to use apt-get in the shell it finds nothing, whant am I doing wrong?
[10:37] <Spee_Der> Cyrus25801: Can you please to post your xorg.conf somewhere so I can read it ?
[10:37] <agent> how do i have X loa ~/.Xdefaults when it starts?
[10:37] <user01_> hmmm i wonder if i should have installed windows instead . . . according to the highly reliable times the london stock exchange found it to be more reliable . . .
[10:37] <sharperguy> is there a good tutorial on recompiling you're kernel in ubuntu?
[10:37] <charles>  #initng
[10:37] <lelek_> cyrus: have u tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:38] <AlexC_> user01_:  don't troll,
[10:38] <user01_> oh wait the highly reliable times is a microsoft publication
[10:38] <Hansel> Shareperguy - yes... its easiest to just get a binary version though assuming you dont need it compiled w any special options
[10:38] <user01_> :)
[10:38] <Boing> Cyrus25801 have you tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:38] <user01_> AlexC_: sorry?  i was just joking
[10:38] <Trunkz> little problem
[10:38] <mrnysegy> what is trolling?
[10:38] <Trunkz> I deleted the vmware.so file from the xorg directory
[10:38] <Hansel> !resolution | Cyrus25801
[10:38] <sharperguy> Hansel, i just want to compile it for learning purposes
[10:38] <Trunkz> and now.. ubuntu crashes before loading the desktop manager
[10:38] <AlexC_> user01_: my mistake =) sounded like you were being serious :P
[10:39] <leobloo1> noone can help me please?=o/ it should be easy but I can't understand how to do it
[10:39] <eisma> how about flash and java?
[10:39] <Trunkz> how can I sort this?
[10:39] <mwe> agent: use ~/.Xresources instead
[10:39] <mwe> agent: that one is sourced I believe
[10:39] <zodiak> hey guys
[10:39] <lelek_> Ok have someone tried fiesty ?  how was it? is it usable?
[10:39] <agent> mwe: thank you!
[10:39] <AlexC_> lelek_: #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <OzoneCo> x11vnc http://www.odrakir.com/blog/?p=201
[10:39] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: it is a bit more difficult since you have to make symbolic links manually
[10:39] <dimeo> ignite: now installing windows2000 to use under ubuntu... for that one annoying program i can't yet run under wine..... thx for your tips!
[10:39] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: just a sec
[10:39] <zodiak> does anyone know about using HP laptop for ubuntu
[10:39] <zodiak> i cant get wireless to work
[10:39] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: http://pastebin.com/863795
[10:40] <user01_> AlexC_: no its really funny they made up their own newspaper and everything http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/facts/default.mspx :)
[10:40] <mrnysegy> hey zodiak, i'm having the same problem, but on a latitude
[10:40] <bulmer> zodiak does it have an on/off switch you forget to activate?
[10:40] <agent> mwe: but i am not looking for source ~/.Xdefaults but instead xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults - is what you mean was that .Xresources is loaded?
[10:40] <AlexC_> user01_:  LMAO hahah
[10:40] <Hansel> sharperguy, http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[10:40] <Optikal___> zodiak: Most likely your wireless card only supports windows and you need to use NDISWRAPPER
[10:40] <OzoneCo> its just a short page....starts, lets me log in, then stops...during reboot
[10:40] <zodiak> i am a nub when it comes to linux do i activate it throught terminal or just the button?
[10:40] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: can you play mp3 files now?
[10:40] <jackson3246> is there any way to configure grub to boot from a .img file?
[10:40] <OzoneCo> http://www.odrakir.com/blog/?p=201
[10:40] <zodiak> i used ndiswrapper
[10:40] <leobloo1> how can I use the repositories on dvd on a pc without internet connection?
[10:40] <Trunkz> Anyone? =/
[10:40] <mrnysegy> me too
[10:40] <AlexC_> user01_: Windows definatly wasn't my highly reliable times,
[10:40] <sharperguy> Hansel, cheers
[10:40] <Hansel> !wireless | zodiak
[10:40] <Spee_Der> lol @ Ensign
[10:41] <Spee_Der> really
[10:41] <Hansel> blasted bot... where is it?
[10:41] <mrnysegy> did you do it from the command prompt?
[10:41] <Spee_Der> bot is not feeling well today
[10:41] <Optikal___> zodiak: THe ubuntu site has a list of wireless cards and their current level of support
[10:41] <Optikal___> have you seen it?
[10:41] <ne_DK> my ubuntu don't start (no disk detected), i giess i need some custom boot option but, somehow it's not accepting them... anyone know why
[10:41] <user01_> AlexC_: it was an ad on a linux web page of all places
[10:41] <zodiak> no
[10:41] <bulmer> zodiak: look around the perimeter of of your laptop, you may find the on/off switch for that wifi nic
[10:41] <zodiak> i got the driver on here with ndiswrapper
[10:41] <AlexC_> user01_: hehe,
[10:41] <zodiak> the switch doesnt work
[10:42] <zodiak> it doesnt do anything
[10:42] <leobloo1> please =o/
[10:42] <mrnysegy> i thought I had installed the driver using ndiswrapper when i did it from the gui, when i did it from the command prompt i found this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2336/
[10:42] <bulmer> the led ever lit up?
[10:42] <wolfwalker> Anyone a music nut here?
[10:42] <dimeo> zodiak and mrnysegy  check out my post at:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2007989&postcount=1    its what i did to get my dell m1210 broadcom card working
[10:42] <OzoneCo> just read it for me and see if they left something out, it starts, but kicks me after i log in to Ubuntu
[10:42] <wolfwalker> I need recommendations for a good music tracker
[10:42] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Dude that xorg has no relevence.
[10:42] <OzoneCo> http://www.odrakir.com/blog/?p=201
[10:42] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: You have fixed my issue at the cost of 4 other ones.
[10:42] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: Fail.
[10:42] <SirWellington> GPL-Chewbacca: >_>
[10:43] <OzoneCo> thanks in advance
[10:43] <zodiak> thanks dimeo
[10:43] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: here is the java howto http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[10:43] <adamonline45> Hey, when I press <ctrl><alt><f2> and get to a virtual terminal, how the hell do I get back ?!
[10:43] <adamonline45> I got stuck yesterday and had to reboot =D
[10:43] <Optikal___> ctrl alt F*
[10:43] <Optikal___> err
[10:43] <Optikal___> ctrl alt F8
[10:43] <s1> or F7
[10:43] <Optikal___> or F7
[10:44] <adamonline45> Optikal___: Alright, thanks folks
[10:44] <Optikal___> One of those
[10:44] <evan_> how can i see witch com port i use?
[10:44] <user01_> AlexC_: "Duplicating this level of service in a Linux-based environment would have been very difficult. . ." as all the hardware drivers are proprietary ad not open :p
[10:45] <zodiak> do i need an inf and an sys file for wirelss to work
[10:45] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca it's still downloading.. how about flash though?
[10:45] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: just a sec
[10:45] <Math^> hello, is there some stand-alone adressbook?
[10:45] <DingoK> does anyone know if there is a way to change the order that cups sends pages in an individual job? (Like, so it prints the last page first)
[10:46] <Tom47> DingoK which application areyou using?
[10:46] <dimeo> zodiak... yes if you're gonna use a wireless card that isn't linux native  and you need to use ndiswrapper
[10:46] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[10:46] <EnsignRedshirt> DingoK: One possibility is to print your file through gtklp.
[10:47] <SirWellington> ...
[10:47] <DingoK> Tom47: I want to be able to do reverse in all applications, not just one
[10:47] <SirWellington> Anyone available to help me unbreak my previously perfect ubuntu system
[10:47] <DingoK> EnsignRedshirt: gtklp?
[10:48] <eisma> GPL-Chewbacca thanks so much for all your help. i'll try and do all that and get back to you if i'm not successful
[10:48] <GPL-Chewbacca> eisma: ok
[10:48] <EnsignRedshirt> DingoK: Its a neat GUI app for printing.  It has lots of options.
[10:49] <leobloo1> how can I  use the dvd repositories =o/? PLease!
[10:49] <Tom47> DingoK despite yr non answer, when using OpenOffice you can go to the Print menu and using advanced options tick reverse print order
[10:49] <GPL-Chewbacca> SirWellington: if I didn't help you I'm sorry, I tried. You can try this wiki: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[10:50] <EnsignRedshirt> DingoK: It's in the ubuntu universe repository.
[10:50] <XVampireX> !swiftfox
[10:50] <andya1001> I'm new at using ubuntu. How can I upgrade to ubuntu 6.10 from 6.06?
[10:50] <DingoK> Tom47: I answered you, and I said I wanted all applications, not just openoffice.
[10:50] <DingoK> EnsignRedshirt: Neat, thanks, is it a ubuntu only app?
[10:50] <agent> !upgrade > andya1001
[10:50] <XVampireX> !update
[10:50] <XVampireX> Oh
[10:50] <EnsignRedshirt> DingoK: No, I have also used it in debian.
[10:50] <andya1001> can you do it without re installing? Sorry for being new at this
[10:51] <agent> andya1001: yes you can
[10:51] <Judicata> andya1001: yeah, its pretty easy.
[10:51] <andya1001> how?
[10:51] <andyDMC> spanis?
[10:51] <andyDMC> spanis help?
[10:51] <gabaryah> i'm running berly finally on ubuntu but open gl isn't working right
[10:51] <eyalw> hi, the update manager errors when it tries to update this package: wpasupplicant every time, and it wont skip it. what should i do?
[10:51] <pommie> Hmmm... is ubotu in for an oil change?
[10:51] <gabaryah> glxgears
[10:51] <gabaryah> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[10:51] <gabaryah> X connection to :1.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[10:51] <unop> andya1001, check your private messages, they have important info for your needs :))
[10:51] <gabaryah> anyone know what this mean
[10:51] <unop> s/:))/:)/
[10:52] <agent> !upgrade
[10:52] <mrnysegy> I found a problem with my driver installation. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2336/
[10:52] <agent> it does not work
[10:52] <agent> ubotu is dead :(
[10:52] <gabaryah> upgrade
[10:52] <gabaryah> ??
[10:52] <graft> !ubotu
[10:52] <andya1001> Sorry new at this too. Where is my private message?
[10:52] <gabaryah> how
[10:52] <Judicata> agent: ubotu left awhile back.
[10:52] <gabaryah> apt-get upgrade
[10:52] <gabaryah> ??
[10:52] <Judicata> andya1001: first, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286209.
[10:53] <agent> andya1001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[10:53] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabarah: disregard that, it's the common problem, if you have beryl working then your 3D is working, also DR
[10:53] <agent> andya1001: that has all the info you need
[10:53] <pirx> hi! how do i make the gnome-terminal get that it should use readline?
[10:53] <unop> andya1001,  sorry, the helper-bot in the room has expired -- so your private messages werent delivered .. sorry
[10:53] <zodiak> does anyone know if there is a way to turn on my wirelss card via terminal?
[10:53] <EnsignRedshirt> andya1001: There is also information about upgrading here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[10:53] <gabaryah> ok 2nd question i have to run beryl through start up by selecting XGL can i use beryl on KDE
[10:53] <agent> Judicata: "awhile back" means how long ago? hours? day? weeks? just wondering :)
[10:53] <graft> zodiak: ifconfig?
[10:53] <mrnysegy> iwconfig is supposed to work, but I'm not having any luck Zodiak
[10:53] <unop> pirx, errm, thats down to the application using gnome-terminal?? maybe i dont understand you right, just what do you mean?
[10:54] <zodiak> hmmm
[10:54] <agent> EnsignRedshirt: i already posted that :)
[10:54] <fnord123> how do i check the device on my dvd drive? I'm trying to watch dvds and it's choppy -so im turning on dma. however, the mountpoint of dvds is /media/cdrom0. Either way, making sure the dvd and cdrom device have dma on didn't unchoppify the dvd playback
[10:54] <user01> how do i run pythoncard after it is installed?  the homepage seems to talk about windows only
[10:54] <graft> agent: yeah just run beryl-manager, it'll launch beryl which will replace kwin
[10:54] <zodiak> i get as far as installing the driver... it says hardware found and installed... but no go
[10:54] <EnsignRedshirt> agent: OK... I'm slow :)
[10:54] <TtyS3> zodiak: try sudo ifup ath0
[10:54] <graft> err, sorry, not agent, gabaryah
[10:54] <eyalw> ???
[10:54] <agent> graft: i think you made a mistake, i don't need beryl help :D
[10:54] <eyalw> help
[10:54] <gabaryah> ok so i switch to kde than run beryl-manager
[10:54] <eyalw> the update manager errors when it tries to update this package: wpasupplicant every time, and it wont skip it. what should i do?
[10:55] <gabaryah> than it will work?
[10:55] <graft> gabaryah: yep
[10:55] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabaryah: yes you can, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[10:55] <Cyrus25801> can't remember who helped me with screen res but thank you
[10:55] <gabaryah> cool thanks
[10:55] <Judicata> agent: ubotu left, maybe, 2 hours ago?
[10:55] <Judicata> agent: /whowas ubotu
[10:55] <Cyrus25801> has anyone ever setup their svideo out on their graphics card
[10:55] <agent> eyalw: remove wpasupplicant, upgrade, then reinstall it.... just beware that it may kill your wifi access if you are using it
[10:55] <flk> hi, erhm i am having a problem with chroot everytime i do 'chroot /media/ubuntu/' i keep getting 'chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Not a directory'
[10:55] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: which card?
[10:56] <agent> Judicata: cheers!
[10:56] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: geforce 6600
[10:56] <eyalw> agent: it can kill it permanently?
[10:56] <zodiak> ffor some reasen i cant turn on my wirelss card (im on a laptop) withthe button on the outside...
[10:56] <eyalw> agent: or temporerly?
[10:56] <zodiak> ahhh
[10:56] <GPL-Chewbacca> zodiak: what laptop?
[10:57] <zodiak> ze4900 HP
[10:57] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: could you help me set it up. I have tried the how to on nvidia site but it just screws up my X
[10:57] <unop> flk, it's likely that /media/ubuntu/bin/bash does not exist or isnt setup right .. maybe not executable?
[10:57] <zodiak> i have the drivers i used ndswrapper...
[10:57] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: sorry, I don't have experience iwht nvidia, someone else might, though.
[10:57] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: thank you will ask again
[10:57] <agent> eyalw: when it is removed, then you will not have wpa... if you need wpa then you may be out of luck while it is removed... just make sure when you remove wpasupplicant to see it tries to remove anything else, if so, i would suggest a different procedure
[10:57] <zodiak> i get as far as hardware found and try modprobe and it doesnt work
[10:57] <GPL-Chewbacca> zodiak: hmm, HP is usually supported, I had a similar problem with Acer laptop and I had to write a script to start up the card
[10:58] <zodiak> any ideas?
[10:58] <Cyrus25801> can someone help me setup my s-video out on my geforce 6600
[10:58] <zodiak> i am a nub for linux
[10:58] <belkin> how do i tell acidrip to convert all the file into one single avi file not each vob to each avi , any idea ?
[10:58] <unop> flk, make sure the chroot environment is setup right or mount your current /bin into the chroot with mount --bind
[10:58] <agent> eyalw: when you reinstall it it should work again
[10:58] <MattDog> ubuntu based off debian?
[10:58] <vinboy_> hi
[10:58] <unop> MattDog,  yes
[10:58] <GPL-Chewbacca> zodiak: what is your card?
[10:58] <vinboy_> is there any aMule-CVS package?
[10:58] <Cyrus25801> hi
[10:58] <zodiak> broadcom
[10:58] <mrnysegy> i'm  having the problem where the ndiswrapper always says "driver present" i can't get it to say "driver installed"
[10:58] <agent> MattDog: yes, similar to the 101 other debian-based distros :)
[10:58] <gabaryah> i tpyed beryl-manager in kde it's showing the beryl icon
[10:58] <the_rick> How can I list which processes are running on my system, and which are taking up the most resources?
[10:58] <gabaryah> but it's not working
[10:59] <eyalw> agent: how do i use the upgrade command?
[10:59] <erUSUL> the_rick: top (in a terminal)
[10:59] <Cyrus25801> can someone help me setup my s-video out (tv out) on my geforce 6600
[10:59] <GPL-Chewbacca> zodiak: hmm, ok, you probably installed the wrong version of ndiswrapper coz ubuntu comes with two versions
[10:59] <unop> the_rick,  use the gnome-system-monitor or top at a terminal
[10:59] <emss> the_rick: top, ps etc.
[10:59] <samalex> hmm, in KDE when I try to view screensavers, at first it restarted KDE, now when I go back in and try to test any screensaver, they do nothing.  Suggestions?
[10:59] <lvalue> hi, i need to make a dist-upgrade on a remote machine 3000km away from here. it will upgrade the kernel. is there something that could go wrong or is it like in debian a fully automated process ?
[10:59] <agent> eyalw: what are you trying to upgrade? your progrms or the whole distro?
[10:59] <graft> gabaryah: right-click on beryl-manager and see if its selected the right window manager...
[10:59] <the_rick> Thank you all...I have made some change to my system that is causing the keyboard to behave poorly every 10 seconds or so
[10:59] <EnsignRedshirt> the_rick: Or, System ->Administration -> System Monitor
[10:59] <GPL-Chewbacca> zodiak: go to synaptic and type ndiswrapper in search, you also need .inf file from windows drivers
[10:59] <zodiak> i have one that doesnt use the terminal
[11:00] <gabaryah> i have clicked on it
[11:00] <Jebho> anyone have an ATI all in wonder card and know how to use/setup gatos?
[11:00] <unop> lvalue,  if that machine is mission-critical .. you should try and not upgrade the kernel
[11:00] <gabaryah> to switch to beryl it goes back to metacity
[11:00] <samalex> and after restarting, now rightclicking on desktop does nothing.  hmm
[11:00] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: I'll glance at it, but I can't promise anything, can you pastebin your xorg.conf? (paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then post the link)
[11:00] <unop> lvalue,  but yes, the upgrade process is just like that of debian's
[11:00] <graft> gabaryah: um, type 'beryl' in a shell and see what error you get
[11:00] <the_rick> anyone experieeeenced anything
[11:00] <the_rick> liiiike that
[11:00] <flk> unop: i was follwing the instructions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296809 3rd post
[11:00] <pirx> unop: well, i want to get readline working at the command line
[11:00] <the_rick> whhhhhere keys will just be repeated while you are typing
[11:00] <flk> everything works fine until the i try to do chroot
[11:01] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: thank you
[11:01] <GPL-Chewbacca> zodiak: ok, type apt-cache search ndiswrapper, you need to install 1.8 version, not 1,4
[11:01] <gabaryah> gabaryah@doom:~$ beryl
[11:01] <gabaryah> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[11:01] <gabaryah> Nvidia Absent, checking for texture_from_pixmap
[11:01] <gabaryah> texture_from_pixmap Present
[11:01] <gabaryah> beryl: No composite extension
[11:01] <arentoine> blanky : to get squirrel from apt-get, I needed to uncomment edgy universe.
[11:01] <the_rick> I believe the last major change I made was installing      postfix, but I didn't think it would do this
[11:01] <lvalue> unop, thanks, i'll try in in working hours in case it bricks to have somebody sent over to check it
[11:01] <blanky> arentoine: maybe, not sure
[11:01] <arentoine> blanky : tks
[11:01] <blanky> arentoine: try it
[11:01] <zodiak> chewbacca i dunno what that means
[11:02] <pirx> unop: i have copied my .inputrc from my gentoo, but it seems that ubuntu doesnt use readline very much
[11:02] <bradley_> i reinstalled ubuntu with /home in a separate partition but i must have goofed up. /home is mounted through /media. how do i change it and make it /home again?
[11:02] <the_rick> It is very bizarre, nothing seems to be spiking on my system resources at    all
[11:02] <unop> pirx,  do you mean the readline library used by C, perl and other languages ? or do you mean something else?
[11:02] <graft> gabaryah: um, are you using Xgl or AIGLX?
[11:02] <gabaryah> XGL
[11:03] <gabaryah> worked fine in XGL
[11:03] <EnsignRedshirt> bradley_: You need to add a line to /etc/fstab
[11:03] <eyalw> agent: currently, its just an update that shows in the update manager when i click the orange icon. and it wont leave, it always errors
[11:03] <the_rick> Even just tryyyy typing a few lines and      it is almost guaranteed to sssspit out multiple characters
[11:03] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2341/
[11:03] <bradley_> EnsignRedshirt: what is the line that i would need to add?
[11:03] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: ok, give me a second to look at it.
[11:04] <unop> flk,  yes, that persons setup is not like yours .. you probably have another volume that houses /bin and therefore need to mount it seperately into the chroot -- check the mount manpage for the --bind option
[11:04] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: thank you
[11:04] <EnsignRedshirt> bradley_: (but I would think that if you told the installer about /home, it would have created the line for you...)
[11:04] <MusKuS> Hello everybody
[11:04] <zodiak> i need help with wireless.....
[11:04] <graft> gabaryah: but are you still in xgl?
[11:04] <gabaryah> no KDE
[11:04] <EnsignRedshirt> bradley_: For example, here is mine: /dev/hda11      /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[11:04] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: is your X running right now?
[11:04] <graft> gabaryah: is KDE running in xgl? or just regular X?
[11:04] <gabaryah> not sure
[11:04] <bradley_> EnsignRedshirt: yeah i goofed it when i reinstalled.
[11:04] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: yes
[11:05] <n2diy> adaptr: are you on board?
[11:05] <pretende1> can anybody help please? i downloaded a program with bin extension and i tried to copy it to the /usr/local/bin directory. but i couldn't. i saw this error "You do not have permissions to write to this folder." i think its relevant to that "root" thing :) so how can copy this file to the /usr/local/bin directory? (i am new at gnu/linux)
[11:05] <bradley_> EnsignRedshirt: ah. okay thanks.
[11:05] <graft> gabaryah: um, well seems likely it's not... are you using nvidia binary drivers on X?
[11:05] <gabaryah> i have an ATI card
[11:05] <EnsignRedshirt> bradley_: Ah, user erro---I mean, you didn't use the "Read the user's mind" option in the installer?
[11:05] <ctothej> do I have to restart for nautilus-open-terminal to integrate into nautilus?
[11:05] <graft> gabaryah: ah perfect... what model?
[11:05] <the_rick> I have no idea why it is locking in the way thaaat is is, but it is really starting to   bother me.  Has anyone experrrrrience anything like this?
[11:05] <gabaryah> 9600 PRO
[11:05] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: Ok, first backup or xorg.conf (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak)
[11:05] <nauj27> hi
[11:05] <AlexC_> pretende1: you shouldn't need to copy it there
[11:05] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: then add this code to your xorg.conf I'll pastebin.
[11:06] <Gecko> Hey there. I am having some weird issues with gnome. None of the keyboard shortcuts seem to work. I can't press Alt-F2 to make the run dialog appear or any other shortcut I used to know... Any ideas?
[11:06] <pretende1> alexc_: why?
[11:06] <the_rick> The highest process      is Xorg only consuming 7% cpu and everything else is belllllllow 1 percent
[11:06] <AlexC_> pretende1: make sure the file is in your home directory, then go to Applications->Accessories->Terminal and type the name of the file
[11:07] <graft> gabaryah: um did you install fglrx?
[11:07] <h2o> Hello, when is Ubuntu studio planning to come out?
[11:07] <ubuntu> WHat is Ubuntu Stuido
[11:07] <h2o> you should know
[11:07] <ubuntu> and when UBuntu MEdia Center will be out.
[11:07] <h2o> yes
[11:07] <graft> woohoo! hi ubotu...
[11:07] <agent> eyalw: try sudo aptitude update then type sudo aptitude upgrade and if that does not solve it try sudo aptitude -f install (beware of -f install as it may give you a bad solution - don't agree to changes if things look iffy)
[11:08] <agent> !upgrade
[11:08] <ubuntu> !Ubuntu Studio
[11:08] <pretende1> AlexC_: it is not in the home directory. still it says "you don't have permission..."
[11:08] <agent> :(
[11:08] <graft> hrm...
[11:08] <gabaryah> xserver-xgl, emerald-themes, beryl and xorg-driver-fglrx, all installed
[11:08] <Cyrus25801> !Ubuntu Studio
[11:08] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntu Studio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntu Studio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <pretende1> AlexC_: I can not move the file from the desktop!
[11:08] <AlexC_> pretende1: why is that?
[11:09] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: ok, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2343/
[11:09] <Cyrus25801> will do
[11:09] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabaryah, have you tried to start KDE after you installed those packages?
[11:09] <graft> gabaryah: crud... well, basically, it works like this: fglrx won't let you work with AIGLX, only with Xgl - so you have to downgrade to normal mesa libs and use the open-source 'radeon' driver
[11:09] <unop> pretende1,  leave it at the desktop -- at a terminal run these commands-- cd ~/Desktop; chmod a+x file.bin; ./file.bin
[11:09] <gabaryah> i'm on KDE now
[11:09] <graft> gabaryah: when you do that, AIGLX will work, and beryl will work seamlessly...
[11:09] <geox> hi i want change this crap windows to ubuntu but all my data music i have ti on two hard drives in NTFS how i can do without loss all
[11:10] <gabaryah> when i select XGL & boot beryl starts
[11:10] <graft> gabaryah: but you have to get rid of fglrx completely
[11:10] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: if it doesn't work how do i replace the xorg file  with the backed up one
[11:10] <pretende1> unop: ok
[11:10] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabaryah: try this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL and follow the lines for KDE
[11:10] <Boing> hehe beryl will work seamlessly, that'll be the day
[11:10] <graft> gabaryah: okay, so you have two options: get AIGLX working on X, or configure KDE to launch Xgl instead of X
[11:10] <gabaryah> thanks
[11:10] <graft> it's pretty easy to get beryl working these days...
[11:10] <unop> geox, just do not format those drives (whatever you do) .. find space elsewhere to install ubuntu on .. or use a partition manager to make space accordingly
[11:11] <ubuntu> !UBuntu Media Center
[11:11] <graft> most of the time
[11:11] <aleka> I just bought an external HD (250GB) and would like to format 100GB ext3. I can use Fdisk.. but i thought to go the easy way and use Gparted. It does not seem to have the options to resize partitions though, I have unmounted this device and trid again...What ssteps should I take to partition this drive (100GB ext3 for backup) ?
[11:11] <graft> if it's possible with your card
[11:11] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: if it doesn't work...
[11:11] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:11] <gabaryah> will beryl AIGLX work on my card
[11:11] <Boing> graft: did you ever get fglrx to work ok with XGL and Beryl? I have a 9800Pro and I never could get it to go, I'm using AIGLX and Beryl
[11:11] <gabaryah> 9600 pro radeon
[11:11] <Cyrus25801>  Judicata: thank you, will be back just now
[11:11] <toM|vendettA> hi, last night i did something to my ubuntu settings and now i cannot log into computer. i type in the username and password and it shows the splash screen and plays the splash sound and it just stays there, nautlius and all the other normal programs do not open up, what can i do?
[11:12] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabaryah: it should work
[11:12] <ubuntu> Vendeta did you lost your password
   but on ntfs linux doesnt work?
[11:12] <unop> aleka,  you should check out the manpage for mkfs (or mkfs.ext3/mkfs.ext2)
[11:12] <gabaryah> AIGLX is faster than XGL right
[11:12] <ethan_> !ubuntu
[11:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:12] <toM|vendettA> no ubuntu, my password/username work fine still, but the desktop just doesnt load it stays on the splash screen
[11:12] <Seveas> gabaryah, yes
[11:13] <finalbeta> gabaryah, in theory.
[11:13] <ethan_> Everyone, the ubotu works again
[11:13] <Seveas> finalbeta, also in reality :)
[11:13] <unop> geox,  linux does not install on ntfs volume (well, atleast ubuntu does not) and requires atleast 2 free partitions on one harddrive
[11:13] <gabaryah> ok is there a guide to use that instead
[11:13] <graft> Boing: Xgl is finicky and fglrx even more so... i think AIGLX is much easier
[11:13] <gabaryah> of XGL
[11:13] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabaryah: I wouldn't recommend AIGLX with ATI card
[11:13] <aleka> unop: the disk had some stuff loaded onto it.. How do I "wipe" everything out, and then start partitioning?
[11:13] <gabaryah> ok
[11:13] <ethan_> !nikto
[11:13] <ubotu> nikto: web server security scanner. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.35-1 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 868 kB
[11:13] <gabaryah> let me read the link you posted
[11:13] <ubuntu> Vendeta maybe you have problem with video
[11:13] <Seveas> GPL-Chewbacca, I wouldn't recommend ati cards :)
[11:13] <jrib> toM|vendettA: check permissions on ~/.Xauthority and ~/.ICEauthority
[11:13] <gabaryah> thnaks
[11:13] <gabaryah> brb
[11:13] <graft> what's wrong with AIGLX and an ATI card?
[11:13] <unop> aleka,  why do you want to partition the drive -- can't you just use it as one big partition and get formatting?
 so i can install ubuntu on a hard drive and write into my another hard drives in ntfs?
[11:13] <Boing> graft: yes it was certainly my experience
[11:13] <GPL-Chewbacca> Seveas: lol. i kinda like them, long story :)
[11:13] <Seveas> graft, it doesn't work
[11:14] <graft> news to me...
[11:14] <graft> i've been using one for months
[11:14] <ringdonut> Everyone say thanks because I discovered the bot works again!
[11:14] <ringdonut> :P
[11:14] <gabaryah>  fglrxinfo
[11:14] <gabaryah> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:14] <gabaryah> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[11:14] <gabaryah> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600 Generic
[11:14] <gabaryah> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[11:14] <ringdonut> !god
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <Seveas> graft, with aiglx?
[11:14] <graft> yeah
[11:14] <AlexC_> graft: you havn't been using XGL and ATI
[11:14] <gabaryah> is this right
[11:14] <graft> and open-source radeon drivers
[11:14] <Seveas> graft, must be an old ati card :)
[11:14] <MusKuS> Hello, Ubuntu can work with /home partition as NFS filesystem ?
[11:14] <n2diy> Can you drag and drop files from a vnc screen to the main screen, and vice verses?
[11:14] <AlexC_> graft: AIGLX, I mean
[11:14] <Seveas> yeah
[11:14] <graft> no, not Xgl, AIGLX... yeah, it's reasonably old
[11:14] <graft> i mean not brand-spanking-new anyway
[11:14] <Seveas> radeon doesn't support modern cards
[11:14] <graft> true
[11:14] <Seveas> old ati is good
[11:15] <aleka> so doing a mkfs and making the whole disk ext3 would format the drive?  I was just trying to leave some room untouched incase I try to access this drive form Windows..
[11:15] <unop> geox, if i understand you correctly, yes, install ubuntu on one harddrive (with 2 free partitions on it) .. and yes you can write to NTFS drives using ubuntu
[11:15] <ringdonut> !SATAN
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SATAN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <ringdonut> !qwerty
[11:15] <Seveas> !botabuse | ringdonut
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qwerty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <GPL-Chewbacca> 9600 is old enough to be supported with radeon driver
[11:15] <ubotu> ringdonut: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:15] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: yousaid that i should comment out:Load	"dri". but there is onlt a section dri. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2344/
[11:16] <unop> aleka,  you do not need to partition a drive -- you can just format it and use it as one big volume -- additionally, there are windows drivers for ext2/3 which enable windows to readd/write to linux partitions
[11:16] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: there is also a "load dri" option up higher in your xorg.conf. You can try commenting out both.
[11:16] <gabaryah> what is QuinnStorm version of Compiz
[11:16] <gabaryah> not sure what that is
[11:16] <Crapon> this may sound dumb, but how do I find out my password for su?
[11:16] <graft> you don't, Crapon
[11:17] <unop> Crapon,  you dont, because the root account is locked by default on ubuntu
[11:17] <GPL-Chewbacca> gabaryah, don't use compiz, use beryl
[11:17] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: its line 33 in your pastebin.
[11:17] <AlexC_> Crapon: use Sudo instead
[11:17] <Crapon> so how do I access it for setting up stuff?
[11:17] <Seveas> !sudo | Crapon
[11:17] <ubotu> Crapon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:17] <unop> Crapon,  use sudo -s instead
[11:17] <Crapon> I know sudo
[11:17] <Seveas> unop, sudo -i
[11:17] <Crapon> whats the "-2" do?
[11:17] <Crux2k> sudo -i is for?
[11:17] <unop> Seveas,  both work
[11:17] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: Got it
[11:17] <Crapon> err, "-s"
[11:17] <Seveas> unop, -i is much safer
[11:17] <Judicata> Crapon: you don't. but you can assign a password to root if your really want to.
[11:17] <Cyrus25801>  Judicata: c u now
[11:17] <cyphase> pm
[11:18] <graft> Seveas: know the details of why? i've heard people say that a few times, but never why
[11:18] <AlexC_> Crapon: man sudo
[11:18] <unop> Seveas,  i dont believe that for a moment -- one preserves an environment another doesnt
[11:18] <Seveas> unop, and why don't you see that that's a safety issue :/
[11:18] <cyphase> a lot of users in here today..
[11:19] <ringdonut> climatecrisis? just another lever the goverment can pull to get more cash
[11:19] <Seveas> !offtopic | ringdonut
[11:19] <ubotu> ringdonut: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:19] <tibbe> after installing on a drive which already has a WinXP parition I now get a UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME when I try to launch WinXP. any ideas on what's up?
[11:19] <Seveas> tibbe, you may have overwritten winxp
[11:20] <tibbe> Seveas: I did tell the installer not to erase the whole drive
[11:20] <Seveas> tibbe, then it shouldn't have ;)
[11:20] <Seveas> does booting winxp work?
[11:20] <tibbe> and /dev/hda1 is still there
[11:20] <unop> Seveas, errm, because -s just runs the shell denoted in $SHELL .. quite likely to be the same $SHELL as dictated by /etc/passwd (which -i uses)
[11:20] <green-_> .org
[11:20] <Tom47> wbooting winxp NEVER woex ;-)
[11:20] <tibbe> Seveas: doesn't boot, with the UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME message on a blue screen
[11:21] <Seveas> unop, sure, but with a users $PATH $HOME and other security leaks
[11:21] <tibbe> Tom47: it worked fine with both Gentoo and Ubuntu last time I had them installed
[11:21] <aleka> unop, would rsync be the best option to go if I am planning on using this external HD as bakup and want to make sure changes made to the files are updated?
[11:21] <tibbe> the winxp install is frech (since today)
[11:21] <MN12BIRD> why oh why does linux have to be sooooo complicated!
[11:21] <Tom47> tibbe sorry tongue in cheek comment
[11:21] <tibbe> :p
[11:21] <MN12BIRD> someone wanna help a newb with acc BS
[11:21] <Seveas> MN12BIRD, trolls that way please ---->
[11:21] <AlexC_> MN12BIRD: it's not, don't troll.
[11:21] <unop> Seveas, errm -- it's like debating whether su is safer than su - :/
[11:22] <Seveas> unop, exactly :)
[11:22] <XVampireX> MN12BIRD, What's so complicated?
[11:22] <AlexC_> MN12BIRD: it's not complicated. Just you think and want it to be Windows which it's not ;)
[11:22] <unop> Seveas, exactly?.. they're both a liability =)
[11:22] <MN12BIRD> well I'm a newb but I installed ubuntu worked good till I deleted the OEM account and made a new one called guest
[11:22] <AlexC_> oem?
[11:22] <AlexC_> guess?
[11:22] <MN12BIRD> now when I try to login as guest its just all scewed up
[11:22] <SecrethX> Does someone know a program for mounting virtual drives (like PowerISO or daemon tools in windows)?
[11:23] <cowbud> secleinteer: fuseiso
[11:23] <AieronPeters> How portable is Ubuntu? Can it be installed on one machine and move the harddrive to another machine?
[11:23] <Seveas> MN12BIRD, why did you do an oem install in the first place?
[11:23] <cowbud> SecrethX: fuseiso it isn't perfect but it gets you somewhat closer
[11:23] <unop> aleka,  you dont need rsync if the drive is attached locally -- you can just use something like amanda or bacula to do the backups regularly
[11:23] <Judicata> AieronPeters: if the hardware is identical :)
[11:23] <SecrethX> cowbud, ill give it a try, thanks!
[11:24] <MN12BIRD> umm it was that or "install text" or something
[11:24] <Seveas> MN12BIRD, oem install is for oems. NOt for end users who screw up oem installs by not having read documentation
[11:24] <cowbud> SecrethX: I believe there are also nautilus-action scripts for it too that you can find on the interWEB just google that badness
[11:24] <n2diy> AieronPeters: you could try, but it will probably be a lot of work.
[11:24] <Chest> anyone know where ld.so.conf resides?
[11:24] <Seveas> Chest, /etc
[11:24] <shadebug> AieronPeters: you could use the livecd for everything
[11:24] <SecrethX> okay cowbud, will do
[11:24] <Seveas> MN12BIRD, grab a regular cd instead of the alternate one
[11:24] <Chest> Seveas: its not there
[11:25] <MN12BIRD> cant install that way
[11:25] <Seveas> Chest, then create it :)
[11:25] <AieronPeters> Thanks
[11:25] <Chest> doh!
[11:25] <shadebug> MN12BIRD: why not?
[11:25] <MN12BIRD> system only has like 128 megs of RAM and it crashes to a hault when trying to boot into the os
[11:25] <shadebug> ooh
[11:25] <pretende1> help! i have to change a file's content but i can't because the file is read-only. how can i change this?
[11:25] <gabaryah> wow it worked
[11:25] <gabaryah> lol
[11:25] <jrib> pretende1: what file?
[11:25] <Seveas> MN12BIRD, then do a normal text-based install and not an oem install
[11:26] <gabaryah> :)
[11:26] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: x is still running fine but tv is still scrambled. any other ideas
[11:26] <dope> i'm tryin to remote desktop from windows to a ubuntu machine
[11:26] <Seveas> and try xubuntu, better for machines with that little mem
[11:26] <dope> using realvnc
[11:26] <aleka> thanks unop.. I passed the -c argument in mkfs to check for bad blocks.. .it is taking a while.. while that is chugging away.. i will read up on both the apps you listed//
[11:26] <gabaryah> happy happy joy joy
[11:26] <dope> but i'm having troubles
[11:26] <EnsignRedshirt> pretende1: Change the permissions: chmod u+w file
[11:26] <Boing> gabaryah what do you have working? AIGLX?
[11:26] <dope> what do i type in for the server? when i put the IP it doesn't work
[11:26] <Arigato> what is the syntax to use pipe (|) in the terminal?
[11:26] <gabaryah> when i click on beryl session manager by right clicking nothing shows up?
[11:26] <unop> Arigato,  command1 | command2
[11:26] <Seveas> Arigato, |
[11:26] <jrib> Arigato: command1 | command2
[11:26] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: Try to find someone more familiar with nvidia. My only other suggestion would be a manual install of an updated driver.
[11:26] <gabaryah> whats up with that
[11:27] <jrib> Arigato: don't be so explicit
[11:27] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: btw, did that change the tv output at all?
[11:27] <n2diy> Arigato: locate ???? | more
[11:27] <pretende1> EnsignRedshirt: ok
[11:27] <jrib> erm I mean Seveas :/
[11:27] <gabaryah> i have KDE & Beryl running
[11:27] <Jowi> dope, ipaddress:screennumber or ipaddress::port (sometimes ipaddress:port also work)
[11:27] <davmor2> jane: try the server install and the apt-get x/k/ubuntu-desktop which ever you use I had a similar problem and this mthod worked
[11:27] <Seveas> jrib, ;)
[11:27] <Boing> gabaryah do you know which version of Beryl it is?
[11:27] <gabaryah> beryl session manager however isn;t
[11:27] <EnsignRedshirt> pretende1: Or, if you are using the File Browser: Right-click->Properties->Permissions
[11:27] <dope> wait i think it was cause the network cable fell out of the comp :|
[11:27] <gabaryah> not at all
[11:27] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: no sorry. but thanx for the help
[11:28] <dope> yea that was it lol
[11:28] <MN12BIRD> is there any uber newb sites.  I mean I get to a command and I'm fubard.  I don't even understand the filesystem or anything.  its all alien to my windows ass!
[11:28] <gabaryah> how do i find the version
[11:28] <Jowi> dope, ...or you plug in the NIC cable ;)
[11:28] <Cyrus25801> Judicata: will ask again
[11:28] <LinTux> How do I install a Binary file
[11:28] <gabaryah> beryl svn
[11:28] <gabaryah> is what shows up
[11:28] <dope> hehe
[11:28] <Boing> Ok
[11:28] <dope> cats like to play with the cable
[11:28] <pretende1> EnsignRedshirt: but i couldn't do that because i do not have a permission (i am new at linux)
[11:28] <Cyrus25801> is there someone that could help me setting up my s-video out on my geforce 6600
[11:28] <Boing> gabaryah do you mean settings manager?
[11:28] <gabaryah> right
[11:29] <Jowi> dope, have a son that behaves the same. lol
[11:29] <dope> lol
[11:29] <unop> LinTux,  usually you just execute it .. chmod a+x /path/to/file && /path/to/file
[11:29] <Boing> gabaryah since the latest updat to Beryl I've lost access to that too....
[11:29] <gabaryah> hmm
[11:29] <gabaryah> must be a bug
[11:29] <Judicata> Cyrus25801: btw, change it back to the other xorg.conf so whoever helps you can start over.
[11:29] <gabaryah> ok so how do i start water effects & snow
[11:30] <gabaryah> are they enabled by default>
[11:30] <EnsignRedshirt> pretende1: What file are you trying to change?  If it is a system file, you will need to use 'sudo'.
[11:30] <Cyrus25801>  Judicata: thanx, will do
[11:30] <Boing> gabaryah as everything else seems to work fine I'm waiting for the next update, hopefully it'll be fixed pretty soon
[11:30] <arrenlex> Cyrus25801: Video card problems?
[11:30] <Cyrus25801> arrenlex
[11:30] <Boing> gabaryah svn updates seem to come through nearly every day
[11:30] <gabaryah> my tv out is still black & white
[11:30] <Cyrus25801> arrenlex: yes. i want tot setup my sevideo. can you help
[11:30] <pretende1> EnsignRedshirt: etc/rc.local
[11:31] <Seveas> gabaryah, is it connected to a tv via an s-video to normal converter?
[11:31] <Boing> gabaryah I don't think those effects are enabled by default
[11:31] <LinTux> unop: What is the execute command
[11:31] <gabaryah> composite
[11:31] <arrenlex> Cyrus25801: svideo? No, sorry... not familiar with that.
[11:31] <Seveas> gabaryah, composite at the computer end as well?
[11:31] <gabaryah> i tried  sudo aticonfig --tv-format-type=NTSC-M
[11:31] <bryanl> what dpkg command is similar to "rpm -qf filename"
[11:31] <Jowi> gabaryah, most likely a setting in the tv. like pal/ntsc for example
[11:31] <gabaryah> but recieved a error
[11:31] <SecrethX> brb reboot :/
[11:31] <Seveas> bryanl, dpkg -S filename
[11:32] <gabaryah> Warning: Failed to set tv format immediately.
[11:32] <gabaryah> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:32] <gabaryah> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-4
[11:32] <unop> LinTux,  well, the file is the command .. if the file is executable i.e.
[11:32] <naura_> anyone know when nvidia drivers >=1.0.9625 will be backported to edgy stable
[11:32] <Cyrus25801> arrenlex:cool thanx
[11:32] <unop> LinTux,  like on win32 .. an .exe file is a command
[11:32] <Seveas> naura_, around the 12th of never :)
[11:32] <Cyrus25801> is there someone that could help me setting up my s-video out on my geforce 6600
[11:32] <EnsignRedshirt> pretende1: To edit that file, you will need to use sudo. For example, to use the nano editor: sudo nano /etc/rc.local
[11:32] <naura_> Seveas: so no plans then eh?
[11:32] <Seveas> naura_, indeed
[11:32] <gabaryah> Section "Device"
[11:32] <gabaryah> 	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] "
[11:32] <gabaryah> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[11:32] <gabaryah> 	Option	    "TVFormat" "NTSC-M"
[11:32] <gabaryah> 	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
[11:33] <gabaryah> EndSection
[11:33] <EnsignRedshirt> pretende1: (I am assuming that you have sudo privileges.)
[11:33] <Seveas> !paste gabaryah
[11:33] <jrib> !paste | gabaryah
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste gabaryah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <ubotu> gabaryah: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:33] <gabaryah> still no color :(
[11:33] <naura_> Seveas: thanks
[11:33] <trilliji> Anyone know what the current instructions are for the nvidia beta driver?
[11:33] <Cyrus25801> gabaryah: can you help with s-video setup on geforce 6600
[11:34] <pretende1> EnsignRedshirt: how can I be sure that I have sudo privileges?
[11:34] <unop> trilliji,  doesnt it come with any documentation?
[11:34] <gabaryah> not working for me either
[11:34] <gabaryah> was on by default
[11:34] <gabaryah> i did nothing
[11:34] <Gecko> Hey, can anyone point out a resource for installing ubuntu with LVM?
[11:34] <EnsignRedshirt> pretende1: You could just try it :)
[11:34] <gabaryah> if i install ati new drivers will that destroy my beryl
[11:34] <trilliji> unop: Yes, it comes with windows though
[11:35] <unop> Gecko, you should be able to use any LVM documentation -- but you'd need the ubuntu alternative CD (me thinks)
[11:35] <pretende1> EnsignRedshirt: I think, I don't have :)
[11:35] <EnsignRedshirt> pretende1: If you are the original user that was created when Ubuntu was installed, you should have sudo privileges.
[11:35] <gabaryah> i remember using ubuntu last month using ati drivers & tv out worked fine
[11:35] <unop> trilliji,  well, is there a linux driver for this version? thats what matters
[11:35] <SecrethX> okay, dont ask me how, but I apparently deleted /media/cdrom :/
[11:36] <Gecko> unop: I'm trying to install using the ubuntu server cd, as it is a server I am installing
[11:36] <jrib> pretende1: try this command:  sudo echo hi
[11:36] <unop> SecrethX,  recreate it then -- sudo mkdir /media/cdrom
[11:36] <LinTux> unopu: Cheers, sorted it m8, it came back to me in the end.
[11:36] <arrenlex> SecrethX: Recreate it. It's just a symlink. "sudo ln -s /media/cdrom0 /media/cdrom"
[11:36] <OrangeOrange> wat the alternative of emerald?
[11:36] <arrenlex> unop: That's not right. Careful with your advice.
[11:36] <SecrethX> thx both
[11:36] <trilliji> unop: yes, and until recently I ran it with the amaranth kernel but soemthing happend that whacked the kernel and they don't seem to be maintained there anymore
[11:36] <adamonline45> Can anyone recommend an application to add a GUI frontend to a script?
[11:37] <unop> Gecko,  I am not familiar with the server CD install -- i wouldnt know how it'd do it
[11:37] <jrib> adamonline45: you mean automatically without any coding?
[11:37] <Gecko> unop: the installer lets me create an LVM partition, but I can't figure on how to make the logical partitions inside
[11:37] <EnsignRedshirt> adamonline45: tcl/tk? zenity?
[11:37] <Jowi> adamonline45, tk is simple (but not beautiful)
[11:37] <Jowi> '
[11:37] <pretende1> jrib: i am asked a password
[11:37] <unop> arrenlex,  errm, i dont see that wrecking a system at all :)
[11:37] <jrib> pretende1: enter your password
[11:38] <pretende1> jrib: it says hi :)
[11:38] <jrib> pretende1: then you have sudo access
[11:38] <adamonline45> jrib: No, I won't mind coding...
[11:38] <gabaryah> i tired to download theme for beryl through theme manager nothing happened
[11:38] <Jowi> adamonline45, if you just want "button1" or "button2" to chose an alternative then gmessage or zenity is ok
[11:38] <cyzie> hello all, why my ubuntu time shrew off easily ?
[11:38] <adamonline45> EnsignRedshirt: Thank you, I'll look into those
[11:38] <arrenlex> unop: It won't wreck the system, but it will prevent him from seeing any CDs he mounts. They will be mounted to /media/cdrom0, and he will be going to /media/cdrom, and not seeing anything.
[11:38] <gabaryah> is there something else i need to install for it to function
[11:38] <jrib> adamonline45: oh, you said "application" which confused me.  You could use pygtk if you like python
[11:38] <SoulChild> Hi, i have the strange problem, that my laptop needs 2 minutes more to boot if my ac adapter is plugged in, on battery it runs fine, any ideas???
[11:38] <adamonline45> Jowi: That's pretty much what I want
[11:38] <esc_ape> does anyone have a guide for setting up a separate /home partition?
[11:39] <arrenlex> unop: Even if it doesn't break anything, why give advice which confuses and irritates people and makes it difficult for others to troubleshoot?
[11:39] <anderbubble_> why is there no exec command in ubuntu edgy?
[11:39] <grub_booter> adamonline45: i'm just messing with tkinter in python - finding it surprisingly good (zenity is also pretty nice)
[11:39] <adamonline45> jrib: Hah, yeah, sorry =)  Perhaps I meant language...
[11:39] <SoulChild> HI PLEASE HELP ME..., i have the strange problem, that my laptop needs 2 minutes more to boot if my ac adapter is plugged in, on battery it runs fine, any ideas???
[11:39] <pretende1> jrib: thank you very much. one more question, what if i don't have sudo access, what would it be?
[11:39] <adamonline45> grub_booter: Cool, thank you...  Methinks I may need to learn python someday =O
[11:40] <jrib> pretende1: sudo is how you get root privileges in ubuntu
[11:40] <dthacker> howdy, is there a repository with libdvdcss2 package for amd64?
[11:40] <nfp|kelnoky>  /dev/sdb1	/home/shaolin/question	ext3	defaults 0	0 <-- thats a correct line for fstab, right?
[11:40] <nfp|kelnoky> well, with spaces
[11:40] <pretende1> jrib: ok. thanks
[11:40] <Godsey> is there an easy way via http to see a list of packages and versions avaiable by repository w/ out simply viewing Packages.gz and ^f? :)
[11:40] <SoulChild> hi, how can i see verbose boot mode under the ubuntu logo???
[11:40] <jrib> SoulChild: remove "quiet" from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:40] <arrenlex> SoulChild: once? Or permanently?
[11:41] <SoulChild> jrib, thanks
[11:41] <SoulChild> arrenlex, permanently
[11:41] <jrib> Godsey: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:41] <papel_> elo wszystkim :)
[11:41] <arrenlex> SoulChild: Do you still want the logo, or do you want a text boot?
[11:41] <gabaryah> how do i install themes downloaded
[11:41] <jrib> gabaryah: system > preferences > Themes   drag the file into the window
[11:41] <papel_> d&d
[11:42] <SoulChild> arrenlex, i want both, have seen it at another mashine
[11:42] <arrenlex> SoulChild: Both what?
[11:42] <SoulChild> arrenlex,  there was the logo and no boot-bar, but the boot messages instead
[11:42] <Godsey> jrib: and extending that, is there a way to see why clamav is at 0.88.4 vs 88.7?
[11:42] <Gecko> unop: Do you have the url for the ubuntu alternative?
[11:42] <AlexC_> cya
[11:42] <HymnToLife> !alternate | Gecko
[11:42] <arrenlex> SoulChild: Then you probably want jrib's advice. As jrib said, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the kopt= line, and remove "quiet".
[11:42] <ubotu> Gecko: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:42] <SoulChild> arrenlex, i think removing quit is what i want.. i ll try
[11:42] <blanky> !alternative | Gecko
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <jrib> !releases | Godsey
[11:42] <ubotu> Godsey: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:43] <gabaryah> drag it where
[11:43] <flk> is possible to reinstall ubuntu without it deleting my /home dir?
[11:43] <SoulChild> arrenlex, thanks dude
[11:43] <gabaryah> do i need to extract firdt
[11:43] <gabaryah> first*
[11:43] <HymnToLife> flk, did you put in on a separate partition ?
[11:43] <jrib> gabaryah: no
[11:43] <unop> Gecko,  just one moment, trying to find something that'll help you with what you have right now
[11:43] <Gecko> unop: ok :)
[11:43] <Godsey> jrib: it's a security fix, I was wondering why not in backports?
[11:43] <esc_ape> how do you setup a separate /home partition?
[11:43] <socorrista_ach> hey guys need some help on beryl...when i maximize a windows it only occupies half screen and sometimes it disappears..
[11:44] <nnacht> Hallo, I try to compile a module, but it gives me an error message: script/mod/modpost not found. What's wrong, what must I install?
[11:44] <jrib> Godsey: it would probably be in ubuntu-security
[11:44] <Godsey> jrib: but really just wondering if there is a place to read about those sorts of issues
[11:44] <flk> HymnToLife: sadly no, i have swap and  ext3 partion only
[11:44] <Seveas> !info clamav
[11:44] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[11:44] <Godsey> like maybe a bug blocking it
[11:44] <Seveas> universe
[11:44] <nfp|kelnoky>  /dev/sdb1	/home/shaolin/question	ext3	defaults 0	0 <-- thats a correct line for fstab, right?
[11:44] <nfp|kelnoky> well, with spaces
[11:44] <gabaryah> i click on the theme
[11:44] <EnsignRedshirt> nfp|kelnoky: That looks OK.  You could also make the last number a 2; then the filesystem will automatically be checked periodically when you boot.
[11:44] <gabaryah> how do i change from one to another
[11:44] <nfp|kelnoky> ah, ok
[11:44] <nfp|kelnoky> ths
[11:44] <nfp|kelnoky> *thx
[11:45] <dope> ubuntu won't recognize my card reader anymore :(
[11:45] <jrib> gabaryah: you click on another theme and it should update
[11:45] <gabaryah> i click on it
[11:45] <EnsignRedshirt> nfp|kelnoky: For more details: man fstab
[11:45] <gabaryah> nothings happening
[11:45] <HymnToLife> flk, it's not too late to make one : http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[11:46] <Godsey> Seveas: and universe isn't reviewed or updated by security I gather from sources.list
[11:46] <Seveas> Godsey, if someone steps up, it is
[11:46] <unop> Gecko,  i can't seem to find anything that homes right into the ubuntu install -- but this may help in reference http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html . anyway, Were you able to create the LVM moount points?
[11:46] <jrib> Godsey: clamav's changelog shows a security update on Jan 6, check if that's what you are referring to
[11:47] <Godsey> jrib: I'll have to research more, I just know that freshclam complains now
[11:47] <nnacht> anybody can help me with the compilation of a module?
[11:48] <Cyrus25801> could someone pleeeeezzzz help me with setting me up my svideo on my geforce 6600
[11:48] <Gecko> unop: never mind. I found out
[11:48] <jrib> Godsey: well it may just be checking your version number.  SO even though you received a patch, it doesn't know.  Here's the changelog: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/c/clamav/clamav_0.88.4-1ubuntu2/changelog
[11:48] <Boing> gabaryah I thought you were using beryl?
[11:48] <unop> Gecko,  :) .. i bet all it took was a little playing about with it, eh?
[11:48] <gabaryah> i am
[11:49] <Boing> beryl uses emerald themes
[11:49] <Boing> access them from the red crystal icon
[11:49] <gabaryah> i'm on emarald theme mannager
[11:49] <Gecko> unop: or opening ones eyes ;)
[11:49] <Boing> Ok I'll just shut up now then :-)
[11:49] <Godsey> jrib: just viewing that now
[11:50] <Jowi> emerald is the window decorator. won't be beryl without it.
[11:50] <unop> Gecko,  ha ha, yep
[11:50] <Godsey> looking for upstream security bulletins now :)
[11:50] <kitche> Jowi: well emerald isn't even part of beryl but they work nice together
[11:50] <Hyarion2> hello fellow Ubuntuers, I'm attempting to switch to Ubuntu from Windows but am having some issues with my Wireless adapter, does anyone have a few minutes?
[11:50] <jrib> Cyrus25801: I think there is a guide on the wiki, have you seen it?
[11:50] <Jowi> kitche, absolutely beautiful
[11:51] <jrib> Hyarion2: have you read the wireless docs on the wiki?
[11:51] <Cyrus25801> jrib: no i havn't. what is the www?
[11:51] <jrib> Cyrus25801: I don't know, do a search at help.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <Hyarion2> jrib, yes, and just about every forum post I can find, still don't seem to be getting anywhere unfortunately, the WMP54G doesn't seem to be playing nice for a lot of people.
[11:52] <esc_ape> Hyrarion2: I have the wmp54g working with WPA perfectly
[11:52] <Godsey> jrib: coming up empty handed, maybe it's just a generic version check > 2 revisions or something
[11:52] <fnord123> where does ubuntu keep the equivalent of xorg-server.m4? I need to have the following defined: AC_DEFUN([XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT] ,[
[11:52] <Godsey> 88.4 according to clamav.net was the last release for a security fix
[11:52] <jrib> Cyrus25801: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut?highlight=%28nvidia%29%7C%28s-video%29
[11:52] <n2diy> adaptr: are you on board?
[11:52] <sleepy723> Whats a good beginners book on Linux in general?
[11:53] <HymnToLife> !nook
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <HymnToLife> !book
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about book - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <dope> why doesn't ubuntu recognize my card reader anymore!?@$
[11:53] <jrib> Cyrus25801: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition?highlight=%28nvidia%29%7C%28out%29%7C%28tv%29
[11:53] <kitche> sleepy723: ther isn't one really maybe oreilly linux in a nutshell
[11:53] <Cyrus25801> jrib: thnx
[11:53] <fnord123> im on another desktop, pls msg me if you would like to help me. thank you very much
[11:54] <n2diy> sleepy723: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[11:54] <jrib> fnord123: it keeps it in the usual place.  Have you installed xserver-xorg-dev ?
[11:54] <n2diy> kitche: check this out, http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[11:54] <dope> why doesn't ubuntu recognize my card reader anymore!?@$
[11:54] <Hyarion2> Anyone here have any success with the Linksys WMP54G wireless adapter?
[11:54] <FooAtari> hi. just formatted my laptop and installed ubuntu, no more dual boot
[11:54] <InfinitysEnd> Hi, does anyone have ubuntu running on a Windows 98SP?
[11:54] <mouser25> I need help with fglrx in Xgl... fglrx DRI works fine in Xorg but not is Xgl
[11:55] <FooAtari> but i have a problem with my sound which i thought i had fixed
[11:55] <kitche> n2diy: I did check that out long ago
[11:55] <fnord123> jrib, i haven't installed it explicitly, iirc. ill see if it's there...
[11:55] <InfinitysEnd> If you have ubuntu running on a Windows 98-SP please query me.
[11:55] <Jowi> mouser25, you might have better luck in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:55] <n2diy> kitche: and you don't think it is a decent book/tutorial?
[11:55] <Boing> join #ubuntu-xgl
[11:55] <InfinitysEnd> If you have ubuntu running on a Windows 98-SP please query me.\
[11:56] <Godsey> jrib: thanks for your help, it looks like all outstanding bugs are backported into the 0.88.4 packages
[11:56] <Godsey> bugs/bug fixes :)
[11:56] <dope> why doesn't ubuntu recognize my card reader anymore!?@$
[11:56] <jrib> Godsey: heh
[11:56] <InfinitysEnd> If you have ubuntu running on a Windows 98-SP please query me.\
[11:56] <jrib> !repeat | dope
[11:56] <ubotu> dope: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:56] <jrib> InfinitysEnd: you mean in vmware or soemthing?
[11:56] <FooAtari> when I start the laptop i get no sound.  I brought up the sound control pannel and enabled the various controls.  when i turned up the surround sound i had sound, all good. so i rebooted and now have no sound. and seem to have lost alsa
[11:56] <dope> you repeat
[11:56] <n2diy> InfinitysEnd: Ubuntu doesn't run on windows.
[11:57] <FooAtari> when i go to file > change device i only have oss mixer
[11:58] <esc_ape> should the /home partition be primary or logical?
[11:58] <Seveas> !repeat | InfinitysEnd
[11:58] <ubotu> InfinitysEnd: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:58] <FooAtari> when i try and run alsa mixer i get alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[11:58] <boabsta> esc_ape, dont matter
[11:58] <InfinitysEnd> >_>
[11:58] <gabaryah> just loaded wow on wine
[11:58] <esc_ape> boabsta - whats the difference?
[11:58] <FooAtari> esc_ape primary, thats how mine is setup
[11:58] <SecrethX> I keep getting "CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format" from archive manager.. I really need this ISO file :/ Archive manager just cant open it :S
[11:58] <gabaryah> my friend lied he claimed WoW runs better on linux than windows
[11:58] <gabaryah> lmao
[11:58] <FooAtari> gabaryha, how does it run?
[11:58] <sleepy723> Anyone know where to get the latest version of Kiba dock..? THere
[11:59] <sleepy723>             are alot on the net and it's confusing
[11:59] <boabsta> esc_ape, nothing really
[11:59] <Seveas> gabaryah, I'd be surprised if it did :)
[11:59] <gabaryah> slow as hell no sound
[11:59] <kitche> n2diy: it can be if you understand what Linux is and such for me it's not a good tutorial since it might confuse some people or at least some sections
[11:59] <FooAtari> cadega is supposed to run wow better
[11:59] <Seveas> gabaryah, is your 3d video working?
[11:59] <FooAtari> wine requires a few tweaks
[11:59] <gabaryah> not sure
[11:59] <mycroes> Hi all, I'm having troubles with the Ubuntu 6.10 livecd
[11:59] <gabaryah> how can i test
[11:59] <FooAtari> it runs better under opengl i think, but defaults to d3d
[11:59] <Seveas> gabaryah, glxinfo | grep direct
[11:59] <mycroes> it boots fine on most of my boxes, but on a old p3 laptop it's so slooooooooooow
[11:59] <rio> anyone know how to add an "allowed ip address" to firestarter from the terminal?
[11:59] <mycroes> and I doubt it even works like it should
[12:00] <mycroes> put in gentoo livecd and that just boots and runs smootly
[12:00] <trilliji> !nvidia
[12:00] <n2diy> kitche: Roger that, I sure wish I had it when I was starting out with linux.
[12:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:00] <Seveas> mycroes, livecd on an old machine is a no-no
[12:00] <gabaryah> direct rendering: No
[12:00] <Seveas> (ubuntu livecd that is)
[12:00] <gabaryah> shit
[12:00] <mycroes> Seveas: it's not that old
[12:00] <Seveas> that explains it :)
[12:00] <FooAtari> what card do u have gab?
[12:00] <Seveas> mycroes, P3 is old
[12:00] <mycroes> Seveas: and the gentoo livecd boots fine...
[12:00] <gabaryah> ati radeon 9600 pro
[12:00] <Seveas> mycroes, it probably doesn't have a full-featured gnome desktop