[12:16] <ryanakca> thanks
[12:17] <gnomefreak> i use it that way so it stays with the same scheme ;)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:17] <Riddell> ryanakca: known problem
[12:17] <Riddell> tonio uploaded a fix
[12:17] <ryanakca> Riddell: kk, thanks
[12:56] <nixternal> anyone with KDE SVN+SSH: is your initial connection, where it checks the SVN and then asks for your password, slow? I notice constant HD activity when I do svn up and it takes a minute until it asks for a password for my SSH key
[05:09] <manchicken> Riddell: What now?
[05:09] <manchicken> ^_^
[05:10] <manchicken> (I suppose it's 0400 where you are, so I suppose you won't be on.  Silly me.)
[05:30] <ryanakca> is KNetworkManager supposed to be wireless network only? or should it detect eth0?
[05:30] <ash211__> from what I've read, it's supposed to do wireless & wired
[05:31] <ryanakca> ash211: hmm... odd... it's showing "No network devices found."
[05:31] <ash211> yes, see http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager
[05:31] <ryanakca> hmmm... file a bug?
[05:32] <ash211> I'd guess so
[05:32] <ash211> I'm not really familiar with it...
[05:34] <ryanakca> nor I... I just noticed it in my kicker's tray...
[05:35] <ryanakca> hmm...  I'll ask about it again in the morning... g'night
[05:38] <nixternal> ryanakca: it does both
[05:38] <ryanakca> nixternal: so, file a bug?
[05:39] <nixternal> no, you have to make sure your /etc/network/interfaces is set to auto for everything
[05:39] <nixternal> auto lo
[05:39] <nixternal> iface lo inet loopback
[05:39] <nixternal> auto eth0
[05:39] <nixternal> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:39] <nixternal> and so on
[05:40] <ryanakca> yep
[05:40] <ryanakca> s/dhcp/static
[05:40] <nixternal> no static
[05:41] <nixternal> knetworkmanager works with dhcp only ;(
[05:41] <ryanakca> http://www.pastebin.ca/323245
[05:41] <ryanakca> :(
[05:41] <ryanakca> kk
[05:41] <nixternal> oh ya, that is why knetwork manager doesn't see it
[05:41] <nixternal> but if you disable wireless with knetwork manager, it will use your eth0 automatically then
[05:43] <ryanakca> ok, edited to http://www.pastebin.ca/323248 , /etc/init.d/networking restart, restarted KNetworkManager, same thing...
[05:43] <ryanakca> hmm...
[05:44] <nixternal> get rid of all of that address stuff
[05:45] <ryanakca> nevermind, yep
[05:45] <ryanakca> restarting them...
[05:45] <nixternal> heh, seems one of my neighbors has setup a new wifi network
[05:46] <nixternal> and they have to be super close
[05:46] <ryanakca> nixternal: updated to http://www.pastebin.ca/323251 ... same thing... hmm...
[05:46] <ryanakca> lol
[05:46] <nixternal> http://www.pastebin.ca/323254
[05:47] <ryanakca> My cousin built some gadget to amplify the wifi networks in the area so he could use them... dunno if it actually worked or not...
[05:47] <nixternal> that is all i have in mine, and iirc anything else in there made it not work
[05:47] <nixternal> probably made a yaggi or a cantennae
[05:48] <nixternal> you can't amplify a wifi signal because it will take it out of the band, creating a more powerful antennae is what you do so there is no db loss
[05:48] <nixternal> for every inch away from a typical wifi router you usually loose 1db
[05:50] <ryanakca> ah
[05:50] <manchicken> I'm out of stuff to hack :(
[05:51] <manchicken> I'm gonna look at the adept spec again.
[05:51] <nixternal> heh
[05:51] <ryanakca> hmm... same thing... oh well... I don't need it :)
[05:51] <nixternal> lol
[05:51] <nixternal> don't know why it isn't working for you
[05:51] <ryanakca> nor do I :)
[05:51] <nixternal> i think it is popcorn and movie time
[05:51] <nixternal> manchicken: wanna cuddle?
[05:51] <ryanakca> hmm...
[05:51] <ryanakca> see yah
[05:52] <nixternal> later ryanakca :)
[05:52] <ryanakca> bedtime here :)
[05:52] <nixternal> close here
[05:52] <ryanakca> hmm... I can mute and put the volume down... and I can play/pause... but not put it up... *adds that to his todo for the morning*
[05:55] <manchicken> nixternal: My kitty beat you to it.  Maybe later.
[05:57] <manchicken> I have two.
[05:57] <Jucato> wow
[05:57] <manchicken> But if one of them keeps pissing all over everything I'll shortly have only one.
[05:57] <Jucato> lol
[05:58] <manchicken> NOTHING is more infuriating than laying down in a bed just to find a wet spot.
[05:58] <Jucato> hah
[05:58] <Jucato> if I had a cat, I'd train it not to do that... :(
[05:58] <manchicken> I've tried.
[05:58] <manchicken> BELIEVE ME, I've tried.
[05:58] <Jucato> and not to leave it's poop inside the house... make it go to the neighbor...
[08:08] <praetor> Hobbsee: hullo :-)
[08:08] <Hobbsee> heya praetor :)
[08:09] <praetor> i'm all settled in and ready to code once more
[08:11] <Hobbsee> praetor: woot :D
[08:11] <Hobbsee> praetor: however, i'm going out, sorry :(
[08:12] <praetor> nw, i see adept development is moving along nicely
[08:12] <Jucato> Hobbsee: remember that article I was talking about? the one from desktoplinux.com?
[08:13] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah
[08:13] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i'm out - i'll read the backscroll though
[08:13] <Jucato> Hobbsee: it was on digg (thank goodness not /.)... I was quite surprised... lots of positive comments, no negative...
[08:14] <Hobbsee> Jucato: wow.  it's on crack, and inaccurate though
[08:15] <Jucato> yeah. that's why I was surprised...
[08:15] <Jucato> hm...
[10:41] <mhb> ryanakca: it doesn't show ANY wireless network on my laptop & my girlfriend's
[02:28] <Hobbsee> praetor_: so we should find you some more to code?
[02:29] <praetor_> Hobbsee: i've been looking through the adept stuff a bit
[02:29] <praetor_> i'll find something to keep myself busy
[02:29] <Hobbsee> praetor_: :0
[02:29] <Hobbsee> * :)
[02:30] <Jucato> heh looks like Adapt is getting all the love it needs (and deserves??) :)
[02:30] <Hobbsee> hehe, nice :)
[02:31] <abattoir> adept? or is there some new tool?
[02:31] <Jucato> abattoir: changes have been made to Adept the past days... courtesy of manchicken
[02:31] <abattoir> oh, nice
[02:31] <Jucato> the new Manage Repositories is still in the works though :(
[02:34] <praetor_> Jucato: I got it from backports, but it didn't work
[02:35] <Jucato> praetor_: the one in -backports is Flash 9 Beta 2
[02:35] <praetor_> so what I did was just go and d/l it from adobe, then copy the .so file into the appropriate plugins direc
[02:35] <\sh> moins
[02:37] <praetor_> Jucato: ah you are right, the one in backports is beta.
[02:37] <praetor_> still, if you need it, just d/l the .tar.gz archive and move the .so file
[02:38] <Jucato> yeah... but I'm old fashioned... I prefer to use the repos... so that I have someone to blame if things go wrong :P
[02:38] <Lure> \sh: congrats
[02:38] <\sh> lure: thx :)
[02:39] <\sh> guys, I'm just getting totally crazy...
[02:39] <Hobbsee> oh?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> congrats, \sh :)
[02:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: my gf is pregnant
[02:39] <Hobbsee> yes, but why crazy?
[02:39] <Lure> \sh: wait for 9 months for "totally crazy" ;-)
[02:40] <\sh> Lure: the news just hit me suddenly...she was just telling it as it was something normal...you know...
[02:40] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:42] <Jucato> kubuntu sticker?!?!
[02:43] <praetor_> where do you get these kubuntu stickers anyway?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> praetor: linux conf - any of them
[02:44] <Lure> Jucato: I got ubuntu stickers, as I ordered one ubuntu cd with my kubuntu pack ;-)
[02:44] <praetor> no possibility of getting some mailed or something?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> dunno
[02:45] <Jucato> Lure: yeah.. when I heard that there were Ubuntu stickers, I was sooo tempted to order Ubuntu CD's :D
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Lure: :)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Lure: i pinched the last one off the table - i saw some more in the bags..
[02:45] <praetor> 2 mates that did cs with me went to linux conf
[02:45] <praetor> they said they had a great time and got to have a beer with the guy who wrote iptables
[02:45] <Lure> Hobbsee: I got some ubuntu stickers on uds-mtv though - to make friends happy ;-)
[02:46] <Hobbsee> :D
[02:46] <Jucato> stickers stickers stickers!! :(
[02:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:57] <ryanakca> should I file a bug on it taking about 35 minutes for one page to print with cups threw samba up to my XP machine?
[02:59] <Lure> ryanakca: sounds like a bug
[02:59] <ryanakca> Lure: kk
[03:10] <sredna> Hello
[03:11] <sredna> Is it possible to install qt4 demos in kubuntu?
[03:11] <ryanakca> hey sredna
[03:11] <sredna> I have qt4demo, but there is no way to activate the actual demo programs
[03:13] <ryanakca> Lure: sounds like an ongoing problems since april '06... bug 39484 ... even though mine did print a test page... hmm...
[03:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39484 in samba "cups smb printing backend no longer works" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39484
[03:26] <serzholino> hi! will be updates from dapper to feisty supported?
[03:26] <serzholino> or only via update to edgy first?
[03:28] <praetor> afaik, you can't skip upgrades, so dapper->feisty will not work
[03:30] <serzholino> ok
[03:30] <serzholino> is it known bug tat konqueror crashes randomly on right mouse click on file in edgy?
[06:17] <MidMark> hi, guys with Edgy how can I say to kppp to override the default gateway to the one returned by the ppp connections? I have always the 192.168.1.1 that was the old default
[07:24] <mhb> good evening
[07:26] <manchicken> Yay timezones!
[07:27] <manchicken> Hello all you happy people.
[07:30] <gnomefreak> jdong: you busy?
[11:13] <manchicken> Is there a limit to how many bazaar branches you can store on launchpad?
[11:14] <ryanakca> manchicken: dunno... I just store mine in +junk...
[11:14] <manchicken> There's a #launchpad?
[11:14] <manchicken> Neat.
[11:15] <ryanakca> yeah
[11:15] <ryanakca> and a #bzr too :D
[11:16] <manchicken> Yeah.
[11:16] <manchicken> I like svn more though.
[11:16] <manchicken> Maybe once they make it faster, and there's some emacs support, it'll be better.
[11:16] <manchicken> Either way, version control is version control.
[11:17] <ryanakca> instead of always having to commit on a remote server...
[11:17] <manchicken> Yeah, that's nice.
[11:17] <manchicken> I know lots of people who still use CVS.
[11:17] <ryanakca> ah
[11:17] <manchicken> I never really minded CVS.
[11:19] <manchicken> svn and .bzr is that they keep too many files around though.
[11:20] <ryanakca> too many programs I want to write when I can't even figure out how to do a simple task that Riddell gave me...
[11:20] <manchicken> What did he give you?
[11:20] <ryanakca> something about adding UPS to kde-hal-device-manager...
[11:21] <manchicken> Is that using .desktop stuff?
[11:22] <ryanakca> from what I see in the code, it's all automaticly recognised threw hal or something of the sort... so I don't know how I could add it... python
[11:23] <ryanakca> of course, I probably have it all wrong... I'll work on it next week... I have 6 days off after exams... which I should probably be studying for... meh
[11:23] <manchicken> Ah.  I'm not a big Python guy.
[11:24] <manchicken> I wouldn't mind doing more in that area, but I really would prefer to be doing C++
[11:28] <manchicken> No such thing.
[11:29] <manchicken> Every language has its complexities ^_^
[11:29] <ryanakca> lol
[11:29] <ryanakca> well... a higher level language?
[11:29] <manchicken> Thing that gets me is the whole indentation thing.
[11:29] <manchicken> Kinda seems silly to me.
[11:30] <ryanakca> sure, I could go to esolang.org and learn glass or bf or another crazy low level/esoteric language... and get more confused that with C++...  but... nah
[11:30] <ryanakca> lol... indentation... makes it easier to read? which means easier to maintain?
[11:30] <manchicken> Naw.
[11:31] <manchicken> Makes it hard to maintain when you've got some people who like tabs and some people who like spaces though ;)
[11:31] <manchicken> Either way, they're all just languages.
[11:31] <manchicken> And we've got a lot of python code out there.
[11:31] <manchicken> We need someone who can work it well ^_^
[11:32] <gnomefreak> anyone here know why apports not included in kde?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> !info apport
[11:32] <ubotu> apport: automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 0.28 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 156 kB
[11:32] <gnomefreak> i got someone that lost 30gigs over night
[11:33] <manchicken> You mean drkonqui?
[11:33] <ryanakca> hmm.. no clue
[11:33] <manchicken> (drkonqi?)
[11:33] <gnomefreak> was wondering if ff crashed many times over. where does kde store crash reports or is it backtrace on own
[11:33] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: ouch... how?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: working on it
[11:33] <gnomefreak> not sure
[11:34] <ryanakca> manchicken: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Black   ... now that's what I define as a... confusing language?
[11:35] <ryanakca> manchicken: still waiting for them to answer :)
[11:35] <manchicken> ryanakca: Look up APL
[11:35] <ryanakca> assembly?
[11:35] <manchicken> No.
[11:35] <ryanakca> or no...
[11:35] <manchicken> the A Programming Language
[11:35] <manchicken> An old Bell Labs feller.
[11:36] <manchicken> Very old.
[11:37] <ryanakca> heh, doesn't even use the english alphabet...
[11:37] <manchicken> Nope.  Greek alphabet.
[11:37] <ryanakca> heh
[11:39] <manchicken> Most of those languages you're seeing on esolangs are experimental things that people do to learn.
[11:39] <manchicken> I made my own programming language once.
[11:39] <manchicken> It was an interpreted language executed by a Perl script.
[11:39] <manchicken> That was fun.
[11:39] <ryanakca> Appeared in: 1964... hehe... that's... 43 years old...
[11:39] <manchicken> But it was slow.
[11:39] <ryanakca> lol
[11:40] <ryanakca> [17:38]  <mpt> ryanakca, probably after a few billion the database will get a bit flaky
[11:40] <ryanakca> [17:39]  <LarstiQ> ryanakca: not that I know of
[11:40] <ryanakca> there's your answer :)
[11:40] <manchicken> cool
[11:40] <ryanakca> put your junk repos in +junk though... :)
[11:40] <gnomefreak> any devels feel like helping with this weird ass issue?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:40] <ryanakca> anywais, bbl, supper
[11:40] <manchicken> What about a launchpad space limitation?
[11:40] <manchicken> gnomefreak: What issue?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> the loss of 30gigs over night
[11:41] <manchicken> Wow.
[11:41] <gnomefreak> no kidding
[11:41] <manchicken> Loss of data or loss of space?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> he says hes missing 30gig i think its just not showing data seems to be there
[11:42] <manchicken> In kubuntu?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> im waiting for an answer on how big drive is
[11:42] <gnomefreak> yeah
[11:42] <manchicken> #kubuntu even
[11:43] <manchicken> Who's having the issue?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> thehound
[11:45] <manchicken> YES!!!  ANOTHER TOUCHDOWN!!!!
[11:45] <manchicken> Bears 32, New Orleans 14
[11:46] <gnomefreak> crap
[12:06] <crimsun> argh
[12:06] <crimsun> *headdesk*
[12:07] <crimsun> I was just about ask why kdm on feisty was kicking me out, and then I read ``df -h''