[12:16] thanks [12:17] i use it that way so it stays with the same scheme ;) [12:17] yw [12:17] ryanakca: known problem [12:17] tonio uploaded a fix [12:17] Riddell: kk, thanks === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-d93210f5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-82-81-213-254.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:56] anyone with KDE SVN+SSH: is your initial connection, where it checks the SVN and then asks for your password, slow? I notice constant HD activity when I do svn up and it takes a minute until it asks for a password for my SSH key === rideout [n=rideout@c-67-177-203-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@adsl-61-127-142.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy__ [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@adsl-61-127-142.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211_ [n=andrew@adsl-61-127-142.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211__ [n=andrew@adsl-61-127-142.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned_ [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === plerk [n=chatzill@cpe-24-168-146-16.nj.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === plerk [n=chatzill@cpe-24-168-146-16.nj.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A7426C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211__ [n=andrew@adsl-61-127-142.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:09] Riddell: What now? [05:09] ^_^ [05:10] (I suppose it's 0400 where you are, so I suppose you won't be on. Silly me.) === ash211__ [n=andrew@user-1121oil.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca reboots === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-236-159-148.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [i=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:30] is KNetworkManager supposed to be wireless network only? or should it detect eth0? [05:30] from what I've read, it's supposed to do wireless & wired [05:31] ash211: hmm... odd... it's showing "No network devices found." [05:31] yes, see http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager [05:31] hmmm... file a bug? [05:32] I'd guess so [05:32] I'm not really familiar with it... [05:34] nor I... I just noticed it in my kicker's tray... [05:35] hmm... I'll ask about it again in the morning... g'night [05:38] ryanakca: it does both [05:38] nixternal: so, file a bug? [05:39] no, you have to make sure your /etc/network/interfaces is set to auto for everything [05:39] auto lo [05:39] iface lo inet loopback [05:39] auto eth0 [05:39] iface eth0 inet dhcp [05:39] and so on [05:40] yep [05:40] s/dhcp/static [05:40] no static [05:41] knetworkmanager works with dhcp only ;( [05:41] http://www.pastebin.ca/323245 [05:41] :( [05:41] kk [05:41] oh ya, that is why knetwork manager doesn't see it [05:41] but if you disable wireless with knetwork manager, it will use your eth0 automatically then [05:43] ok, edited to http://www.pastebin.ca/323248 , /etc/init.d/networking restart, restarted KNetworkManager, same thing... [05:43] hmm... [05:44] get rid of all of that address stuff === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === praetor [n=praetor@203-59-83-85.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:45] nevermind, yep [05:45] restarting them... [05:45] heh, seems one of my neighbors has setup a new wifi network [05:46] and they have to be super close [05:46] nixternal: updated to http://www.pastebin.ca/323251 ... same thing... hmm... [05:46] lol [05:46] http://www.pastebin.ca/323254 [05:47] My cousin built some gadget to amplify the wifi networks in the area so he could use them... dunno if it actually worked or not... [05:47] that is all i have in mine, and iirc anything else in there made it not work [05:47] probably made a yaggi or a cantennae [05:48] you can't amplify a wifi signal because it will take it out of the band, creating a more powerful antennae is what you do so there is no db loss [05:48] for every inch away from a typical wifi router you usually loose 1db [05:50] ah [05:50] I'm out of stuff to hack :( [05:51] I'm gonna look at the adept spec again. [05:51] heh [05:51] hmm... same thing... oh well... I don't need it :) [05:51] lol [05:51] don't know why it isn't working for you [05:51] nor do I :) [05:51] i think it is popcorn and movie time [05:51] manchicken: wanna cuddle? [05:51] hmm... [05:51] see yah [05:52] later ryanakca :) [05:52] bedtime here :) [05:52] close here [05:52] hmm... I can mute and put the volume down... and I can play/pause... but not put it up... *adds that to his todo for the morning* [05:55] nixternal: My kitty beat you to it. Maybe later. === Jucato likes cats [05:57] I have two. [05:57] wow [05:57] But if one of them keeps pissing all over everything I'll shortly have only one. [05:57] lol [05:58] NOTHING is more infuriating than laying down in a bed just to find a wet spot. [05:58] hah [05:58] if I had a cat, I'd train it not to do that... :( [05:58] I've tried. [05:58] BELIEVE ME, I've tried. 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[08:13] Jucato: yeah [08:13] Jucato: i'm out - i'll read the backscroll though [08:13] Hobbsee: it was on digg (thank goodness not /.)... I was quite surprised... lots of positive comments, no negative... [08:14] Jucato: wow. it's on crack, and inaccurate though [08:15] yeah. that's why I was surprised... 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[02:29] Hobbsee: i've been looking through the adept stuff a bit [02:29] i'll find something to keep myself busy [02:29] praetor_: :0 [02:29] * :) [02:30] heh looks like Adapt is getting all the love it needs (and deserves??) :) [02:30] hehe, nice :) [02:31] adept? or is there some new tool? [02:31] abattoir: changes have been made to Adept the past days... courtesy of manchicken [02:31] oh, nice [02:31] the new Manage Repositories is still in the works though :( === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-102-8.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato wonders when Flash 9 (final) will be made available in the repos [02:34] Jucato: I got it from backports, but it didn't work === \sh_away is now known as \sh [02:35] praetor_: the one in -backports is Flash 9 Beta 2 [02:35] so what I did was just go and d/l it from adobe, then copy the .so file into the appropriate plugins direc [02:35] <\sh> moins [02:37] Jucato: ah you are right, the one in backports is beta. [02:37] still, if you need it, just d/l the .tar.gz archive and move the .so file === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] yeah... but I'm old fashioned... I prefer to use the repos... so that I have someone to blame if things go wrong :P [02:38] \sh: congrats [02:38] <\sh> lure: thx :) [02:39] <\sh> guys, I'm just getting totally crazy... [02:39] oh? [02:39] congrats, \sh :) [02:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: my gf is pregnant [02:39] yes, but why crazy? [02:39] \sh: wait for 9 months for "totally crazy" ;-) [02:40] <\sh> Lure: the news just hit me suddenly...she was just telling it as it was something normal...you know... === Hobbsee now has a ubuntu and kubuntu sticker on her laptop :) [02:40] heh [02:42] kubuntu sticker?!?! === Lure needs to get kubuntu one [02:43] where do you get these kubuntu stickers anyway? === Jucato was disappointed with not having Kubuntu stickers when Dapper was shipped :( === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee got them at LCA [02:44] praetor: linux conf - any of them [02:44] Jucato: I got ubuntu stickers, as I ordered one ubuntu cd with my kubuntu pack ;-) [02:44] no possibility of getting some mailed or something? [02:45] dunno [02:45] Lure: yeah.. when I heard that there were Ubuntu stickers, I was sooo tempted to order Ubuntu CD's :D [02:45] Lure: :) [02:45] Lure: i pinched the last one off the table - i saw some more in the bags.. [02:45] 2 mates that did cs with me went to linux conf [02:45] they said they had a great time and got to have a beer with the guy who wrote iptables [02:45] Hobbsee: I got some ubuntu stickers on uds-mtv though - to make friends happy ;-) [02:46] :D [02:46] stickers stickers stickers!! :( [02:47] hehe === stivani [n=stivani@d51531068.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:57] should I file a bug on it taking about 35 minutes for one page to print with cups threw samba up to my XP machine? [02:59] ryanakca: sounds like a bug [02:59] Lure: kk === ryanakca searches for the cups config files === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] Hello [03:11] Is it possible to install qt4 demos in kubuntu? [03:11] hey sredna [03:11] I have qt4demo, but there is no way to activate the actual demo programs [03:13] Lure: sounds like an ongoing problems since april '06... bug 39484 ... even though mine did print a test page... hmm... [03:13] Malone bug 39484 in samba "cups smb printing backend no longer works" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39484 === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-238-80-198.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:26] hi! will be updates from dapper to feisty supported? [03:26] or only via update to edgy first? 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I have always the 192.168.1.1 that was the old default === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@cm15.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@81.193.17.203] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.242.132.139] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-d9321080.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MidMark [n=marco@host-84-220-99-150.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-053-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:24] good evening [07:26] Yay timezones! [07:27] Hello all you happy people. 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[11:14] manchicken: dunno... I just store mine in +junk... === ryanakca asks in #launchpad [11:14] There's a #launchpad? [11:14] Neat. [11:15] yeah [11:15] and a #bzr too :D === ryanakca likes bzr... except for the fact that it's ssslllloooowwwww [11:16] Yeah. [11:16] I like svn more though. [11:16] Maybe once they make it faster, and there's some emacs support, it'll be better. [11:16] Either way, version control is version control. === ryanakca used to use svn.... thing I like about bzr is that you can commit locally === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-007-014.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:17] instead of always having to commit on a remote server... [11:17] Yeah, that's nice. === ryanakca wonders if people still use cvs... [11:17] I know lots of people who still use CVS. [11:17] ah [11:17] I never really minded CVS. === ryanakca thinks of bazaria... Cervisia for bzr === ryanakca twiddles while waiting for launchpadders to wake up... [11:19] svn and .bzr is that they keep too many files around though. [11:20] too many programs I want to write when I can't even figure out how to do a simple task that Riddell gave me... [11:20] What did he give you? [11:20] something about adding UPS to kde-hal-device-manager... [11:21] Is that using .desktop stuff? [11:22] from what I see in the code, it's all automaticly recognised threw hal or something of the sort... so I don't know how I could add it... python [11:23] of course, I probably have it all wrong... I'll work on it next week... I have 6 days off after exams... which I should probably be studying for... meh [11:23] Ah. I'm not a big Python guy. [11:24] I wouldn't mind doing more in that area, but I really would prefer to be doing C++ === ryanakca tried C++... got really confused with it... decided to pick a simpler first language... [11:28] No such thing. [11:29] Every language has its complexities ^_^ [11:29] lol [11:29] well... a higher level language? [11:29] Thing that gets me is the whole indentation thing. [11:29] Kinda seems silly to me. [11:30] sure, I could go to esolang.org and learn glass or bf or another crazy low level/esoteric language... and get more confused that with C++... but... nah [11:30] lol... indentation... makes it easier to read? which means easier to maintain? [11:30] Naw. [11:31] Makes it hard to maintain when you've got some people who like tabs and some people who like spaces though ;) [11:31] Either way, they're all just languages. [11:31] And we've got a lot of python code out there. [11:31] We need someone who can work it well ^_^ [11:32] anyone here know why apports not included in kde? === manchicken doesn't know what apports is... [11:32] !info apport [11:32] apport: automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 0.28 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 156 kB [11:32] i got someone that lost 30gigs over night [11:33] You mean drkonqui? [11:33] hmm.. no clue [11:33] (drkonqi?) [11:33] was wondering if ff crashed many times over. where does kde store crash reports or is it backtrace on own [11:33] gnomefreak: ouch... how? [11:33] ryanakca: working on it [11:33] not sure [11:34] manchicken: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Black ... now that's what I define as a... confusing language? [11:35] manchicken: still waiting for them to answer :) [11:35] ryanakca: Look up APL [11:35] assembly? [11:35] No. [11:35] or no... [11:35] the A Programming Language [11:35] An old Bell Labs feller. [11:36] Very old. [11:37] heh, doesn't even use the english alphabet... [11:37] Nope. Greek alphabet. [11:37] heh === ryanakca wonders why people make life complicated for themselves... [11:39] Most of those languages you're seeing on esolangs are experimental things that people do to learn. [11:39] I made my own programming language once. === elcuco_ [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-175-192.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:39] It was an interpreted language executed by a Perl script. [11:39] That was fun. [11:39] Appeared in: 1964... hehe... that's... 43 years old... [11:39] But it was slow. [11:39] lol [11:40] [17:38] ryanakca, probably after a few billion the database will get a bit flaky [11:40] [17:39] ryanakca: not that I know of [11:40] there's your answer :) [11:40] cool [11:40] put your junk repos in +junk though... :) [11:40] any devels feel like helping with this weird ass issue? [11:40] lol [11:40] anywais, bbl, supper [11:40] What about a launchpad space limitation? [11:40] gnomefreak: What issue? [11:41] the loss of 30gigs over night [11:41] Wow. [11:41] no kidding [11:41] Loss of data or loss of space? [11:42] he says hes missing 30gig i think its just not showing data seems to be there [11:42] In kubuntu? [11:42] im waiting for an answer on how big drive is [11:42] yeah [11:42] #kubuntu even [11:43] Who's having the issue? [11:44] thehound [11:45] YES!!! ANOTHER TOUCHDOWN!!!! [11:45] Bears 32, New Orleans 14 [11:46] crap === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-1-37.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@scandic759.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:06] argh [12:06] *headdesk* [12:07] I was just about ask why kdm on feisty was kicking me out, and then I read ``df -h'' === Manticore-1 [i=chanscan@88-109-184-149.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel