[12:04] I dont see o files. [12:04] and I dont see hello with no suffix. [12:04] one sec pasting. [12:04] type pwd and paste result here [12:05] pwd=present working directory [12:05] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2349/ [12:05] OmegaCenti, did you run make? i might have missed it but i think you only ran ./configure [12:05] k [12:05] no i didnt run make [12:05] oh - I see [12:05] lol that could be it :) [12:05] :) [12:06] cd .. and then make [12:06] ! [12:06] one sec i will cd .. and type make [12:06] omegacenti@ZeNotePad:~/sandbox/hello-2.1.1/src$ ls -latr [12:06] total 132 [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 138 2001-06-01 23:39 version.c [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 862 2001-06-01 23:39 system.h [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 1354 2002-05-22 12:10 Makefile.am [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 6393 2002-05-22 12:19 getopt.h [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 30530 2002-05-22 12:19 getopt.c [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 4466 2002-05-22 12:19 getopt1.c [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 14387 2002-05-22 12:19 alloca.c [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 7163 2002-05-22 12:23 ChangeLog [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 10416 2002-06-09 00:29 Makefile.in [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 8308 2007-01-20 15:48 hello.c [12:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 omegacenti omegacenti 10097 2007-01-20 16:45 Makefile [12:06] drwxr-xr-x 2 omegacenti omegacenti 4096 2007-01-20 16:45 .deps [12:06] drwxr-xr-x 11 omegacenti omegacenti 4096 2007-01-20 16:45 .. [12:06] drwxr-xr-x 3 omegacenti omegacenti 4096 2007-01-20 16:45 . [12:06] omegacenti@ZeNotePad:~/sandbox/hello-2.1.1/src$ [12:06] no? [12:06] WOAH [12:06] stupid tap pad!!!! [12:06] uuh - bad manners to flood here... [12:06] am I disconnected because of flood? if not respond please. [12:06] nope not d/c [12:06] I realy and truly did not mean to [12:07] i am here and you are too :) [12:07] you only get d/c if you haven't registered your nick [12:07] my tap pad typed it right before I hit enter. [12:07] ok - anyway - do the make in the top dir for the package [12:07] k [12:07] it will be quick as this is a very small pkg [12:07] it is made [12:08] and will tell you it is over [12:08] kde can take days right? [12:08] now ls -latr [12:08] src is last file :) [12:08] :) - not soo long - i can build a whole os in 45 min [12:08] directory [12:08] cd to it and ls [12:08] did it [12:08] yes the whole kde suite can take days, all depends on the computer and what you do with it [12:08] and there are o [12:08] 's and hello [12:09] hello is green [12:09] note hello is executable [12:09] color coded! [12:09] I LOVE it. [12:09] type ./hello to run it [12:09] color == eye candy == organizational goodness. [12:09] why not just hello? [12:09] what is ./? [12:10] it said, "Hello, world!" [12:10] the current dir is never on your path per se [12:10] that made no sense. [12:10] the ./ references current dir. try typing just hello [12:10] one sec. [12:10] bash: hello: command not found [12:10] this is an important security thing [12:11] if curr dir was on your exec path, certain exploits could be used [12:11] so I just built my first package... [12:11] yes but not installed [12:11] so I will always type ./ and stop worrrying about typing 2 extra characters. [12:11] ah. === fernando__ [n=fernando@189.0.158.130] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:12] you need not install it if you do not want to but i recommend trying and we will use a special method to allow you to remove it easily [12:12] you only need ./ to execute something in your working directory [12:12] okay [12:12] you wouldn't use it normally to execute a program [12:12] lets do it mnoir [12:12] installed programs at last [12:12] least* [12:13] ok cd .. [12:13] i in hello directory [12:13] you need to install a cute utility that ensures you can remove it easilly [12:13] lets do it. [12:13] what the util does is make a real deb pkg so that synaptic will see it [12:14] !checkinstall [12:14] in synaptic, look for checkinstall [12:14] checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running! [12:14] noth - you can take over if you like :) [12:14] i have to make dinner anyhow [12:15] if you have to go, i can jump in, but you should keep going ^^ :) [12:15] Well, thankyou mnoir for your patience! I have so many more questions lol :) Thankyou for committing so much tome to me. [12:15] time. [12:16] OmegaCenti: seems i cannot prevent distractions - we can go to a pm - i guess nobody else needs to see this [12:16] your call [12:17] Sure. :) [12:17] did u get the pm? [12:19] yes [12:19] did you receive the reply? [12:20] OmegaCenti: no [12:20] try typing /msg mnoir [12:20] just did. === masterser [n=kvirc@74-134-148-13.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:21] hmm - nothing - well lets stay here :) [12:21] one second [12:21] Im going to attempt to switch to konversation. [12:21] hoboy :) - i will wait [12:25] did you get that [12:25] no :( [12:25] lets just push on. [12:25] sure [12:25] have you installed checkinstall yet? [12:26] no [12:26] should i? [12:26] ok - use synaptic to do so [12:26] sure [12:27] building from source does not usually make a deb package. checkinstall does, thus injecting the package into the apt system [12:28] couldnt find it. [12:28] ahh - it is in universe - need to add a repository [12:28] :) [12:29] new topic :) [12:29] one sec. [12:29] sweet [12:29] lets do it. [12:29] what? [12:29] ok cd /etc/apt [12:29] repositories. [12:29] cd /etc/apt [12:29] I'm there. [12:30] first back up current file. never change any config w/o backup [12:30] Onegai sensei [12:30] sudo cp sources.list sources.whatevermeansbackuptoyou [12:30] Im going to copy that word for word... is that okay? [12:31] when you get really good you can write the backup from the edit session but i never do [12:31] if you like typing, go ahead. i usually use the date or bkp :) [12:31] its backed up [12:31] do you have an editor you like [12:31] ? [12:32] lol if you say vi I am going to attempt to put my face through my door. [12:32] but to answer your question... no. [12:32] that is why i asked [12:32] you prefer visual or text editors [12:32] ? [12:33] not enough experience to choose either way. [12:33] i happen to prefer vi but we will use a visual one instead [12:33] type gksudo gedit sources.list DO NOT PRESS ENTER YET [12:33] if you have enough time to walk me through vi I will give it another try [12:34] no - everybody else will start distracting with their favorite and there are a dozen === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:34] i do not like the general favorite :) [12:34] did you type that? [12:35] typed. [12:35] ok - gksudo is the gui version of sudo [12:35] okay [12:35] it sets up some things and is recommended for root privs for gui things [12:35] ah. [12:36] gedit is an editor - get used to it - most folks will want to use it with you [12:36] now press return [12:36] okay. [12:36] see how it works? [12:36] GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: [12:36] Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. [12:37] hmm - i dunno why - anybody here know? [12:37] but sources did come up in gedit [12:38] if i do not get an answer quickly, we might have to use vi - this does need fixing for you though :) [12:38] okay. [12:38] so I take it I should close sources. [12:39] does it warn that it is read only? [12:39] no. [12:39] one sec. [12:39] lets try to press on [12:39] omegacenti@ZeNotePad:/etc/apt$ gksudo gedit sources.list [12:39] (gedit:19475): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: [12:39] Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. [12:39] omegacenti@ZeNotePad:/etc/apt$ [12:39] and sources opened. [12:39] i assume file is in nice edit window [12:40] yep [12:40] that may be sloppy program chatter [12:40] then lets continue to use gedit? [12:40] ok - wait a sec [12:46] sorry - i locked up two systems [12:46] look at the comments for the lines to un comment to enable universe [12:47] okay [12:47] so uncomment both universes [12:47] yes - i would - one is for source and the other for binaries [12:47] yep [12:47] okay one sec. [12:47] is synaptic running?? [12:47] close it if it is [12:48] d from geditsave [12:48] see.. that was the result of a badly time tap. [12:48] then write out the file (save it, whatever) [12:49] saved from gedit [12:49] shall we check to see if changed? [12:49] less /etc/apt/sources.list? [12:49] ok - yes [12:49] then run synaptic [12:49] its changed [12:49] running synaptic [12:50] there is a button for reload - click it to reload all package lists - will include some new ones [12:50] okay [12:50] then look for checkinstal [12:50] and installit [12:50] downloading ALOT [12:51] it is pretty efficient after the first time [12:51] done yet? [12:51] one sec. [12:52] ? [12:52] sorry [12:52] yes done [12:52] finding checkinstall [12:53] ok - look for and install checkinstall [12:53] whats a star mean? [12:53] in the little checkbox? [12:53] right click it - it will give you a list [12:53] okay installed. [12:54] ok - cd to the root dir for the package in sandbox [12:54] k one sec. [12:54] checkinstall works like sudo - you feed it the proper install command, preceded by it's parms [12:55] BUT it must run as root so it needs to be in a sudo command [12:55] one sec. [12:56] so the whole thing should be > sudo checkinstall -D make install TYPE BUT DO NOT PRESS ENTER YET [12:56] still getting there [12:56] hold on === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:56] okay [12:56] I am in the folder [12:57] got the cmd typed? [12:57] not yet [12:57] okay [12:57] now press enter [12:58] it will stop for input [12:58] wants password [12:58] type in your pswd - do not tell it to me ever pls [12:58] LMAO [12:58] no I was hoping to type it in main with my username too :) [12:58] i hang up on folks who do :) [12:59] you wouldnt mind if I follow that with dmzing my router would you? [12:59] ?? [12:59] :) [12:59] demiliterized zone, fowards all ports directly from router to host pc. [12:59] meaning open to the world. [01:00] Okay it is asking me something [01:00] oh - I see - i am double natted behind a hardware firewall here [01:00] yes - let it create the doc-pak [01:00] I am single natted... [01:00] write a description for the package. [01:00] do so [01:01] enter a number... ? [01:01] no - ler it go [01:01] let* [01:01] or press enter to con... okay doing so. [01:01] probably fail - did you close synaptic? [01:01] thar she blows! [01:02] it actually succeeded without me closing the package [01:02] closing synaptics i mean [01:02] doesnt say failed? [01:02] nope. [01:02] ok... [01:02] type cd [01:02] to get back to home [01:02] and then? [01:02] okay [01:02] type man hello [01:02] type hello ( no ./) [01:03] omegacenti@ZeNotePad:~$ man hello [01:03] No manual entry for hello [01:03] See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available. [01:03] omegacenti@ZeNotePad:~$ [01:03] should I try again? [01:03] hmm - something did not work right - try hello [01:03] okay [01:03] man hello [01:03] it worked [01:04] the hello world bit [01:04] but man no? [01:04] ill try man hello [01:04] no entry [01:04] maybe it didnt no it failed. [01:04] know [01:05] should i try changelist install again? [01:05] ok - i do need to run. go to synaptic and find, remove the pkg - it will be in custom (button at the bottom left [01:05] thankyou! 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[11:34] yes. [11:34] did you visit the site? [11:34] in lynx [11:35] it refers to using synaptic [11:35] i cannot get anything but textmode [11:35] did you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" like it said? [11:35] you did not read enough [11:35] didn't say that, but I'll try [11:36] I was reading the binary driver howto [11:36] that is NOT /msg ubotu fixres [11:36] ah, I was referred to the binary driver howto in #ubuntu [11:37] 128MB is 131072KB, right? === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [11:37] oh, autodetects [11:38] you can answer all the questions with their defaults UNTIL you get to the driver part [11:38] then choose "vesa" [11:39] bb in 30 [11:39] dinner === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [11:54] back [11:56] select vesa X server driver? [11:56] I have nv [11:57] nalioth : ping [11:58] and that [11:58] is like the first question === AndrewB [n=andy@tuxhacker/pdpc.supporter.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [11:59] hi AndrewB [11:59] lo === crazytales is currently IRCing from irssi [12:00] Cool. Me too. heh [12:00] What is the problem..see if i have a quick fix [12:00] Textmode or through a terminal emulator? [12:01] well I ssh into my server and re-attach a screen session running irssi [12:01] I'm doing it textmode locally. I have a video driver prob. [12:01] On its way to be solved. I think. [12:02] cool === AndrewB is in a stupid meeting. I hate it. [through IRC] [12:03] crazytales: hi