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| jdong | infinity: ping; MOTU Media isn't in the exception list for pkgbinarymangler for ffmpeg... | 12:47 |
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| shaya | anyone else having issues w/ the new gaim in feisty? | 01:23 |
| shaya | oscar_list_emblems() is segfaulting it seems | 01:23 |
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| jdong | infinity: can you also look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/avidemux/1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu2 for me? It failed with a very strange error that I can't reproduce in pbuilders; and interestingly two of the arches built it fine and executed the exact same commands in the buildlog | 01:44 |
| jdong | (and it wasn't a compile task either, so arch shouldn't have mattered....) | 01:44 |
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| alex-weej | is there such thing as an "ubuntu aesthetics team" or something? | 02:40 |
| alex-weej | of which the artwork team would be a subordinate i'd guess | 02:40 |
| bhale | mpt is the UI snob | 02:41 |
| alex-weej | i mean a team that can be tasked with realizing things that people want to make everything just look sexy | 02:42 |
| alex-weej | one that decides things such as font settings | 02:42 |
| alex-weej | shadow settings, etc. etc. | 02:42 |
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| snikker | i'm unable to make a .deb package from source. i've got an error: "dh_install: command returned error code 256" | 02:45 |
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| somerville32 | snikker, see #ubuntu-motu | 02:48 |
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| snikker | somerville32: ok, thanks | 02:52 |
| somerville32 | :) | 02:52 |
| somerville32 | np | 02:52 |
| snikker | somerville32: :) | 02:53 |
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| bytee_ | hi, does anyone have any news with regards to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview ? I don't see a summary from the Technical Board Agenda ? | 04:26 |
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| mpt | alex-weej, no, that sort of thing is decided higher up | 04:30 |
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| mpt | And as for fonts, there aren't really any good typefaces to choose from yet (Bitstream Vera is better than Helvetica was, but it's still blah) | 04:33 |
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| bytee_ | hi, does anyone have any news with regards to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview ? I don't see a summary from the Technical Board Agenda ? | 11:07 |
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| StevenK | Mithrandir: Please give-back scgi on all arches, thanks. | 12:00 |
| Mithrandir | StevenK: given-back | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | hey Mithrandir! | 12:02 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee :-) | 12:02 |
| Mithrandir | how was LCA? | 12:02 |
| StevenK | Mithrandir: Thank you kindly | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: was good :) so was the dinner afterwards | 12:03 |
| Mithrandir | good to hear. | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: didnt see the bottle dance or anythign though :P | 12:03 |
| Mithrandir | I'd have to loved to be there. | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: :) | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: i'm looking into spainn... | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | -n | 12:05 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: that'd be fun. | 12:05 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I'm sure you can get sponsorship if you apply for it too | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: indeed :) | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: yeah, i'd have to | 12:05 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: could you sponsor something for me, in a minute please? | 12:41 |
| simira | Mithrandir: he's busy hunting worms | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | simira: ahhh. hope he's early then | 12:48 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: infinity_ ping @ the edgy-proposed queue | 02:30 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: hmm? | 02:35 |
| \sh | moins | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: is wxwidgets2.6 stuck in the queue? | 02:37 |
| === Hobbsee wishes midmark would just cool it. | ||
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: if you could sponsor the upload of http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/gnome-applets.debdiff to make gnome-applets installable again, that'd be good. | 02:41 |
| Mithrandir | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= is the unapproved queue for edgy, there's a wxwidgets2.6 there, yes. | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: 403'd | 02:42 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: sure, I could do that, or just get seb to do it tomorrow. | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: can you approve that to -proposed please? | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | you could, yes | 02:43 |
| Mithrandir | hmm, I thought the queue was supposed to be visible to everybody. :-/ | 02:43 |
| Adri2000 | the feisty one is | 02:43 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: seems not | 02:43 |
| Mithrandir | I'm working my way through the queue, but try not to work outside work hours, so if you don't mind, I'll get to it tomorrow. | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: that's fine. it's just been there a long time. | 02:44 |
| === Hobbsee keeps forgetting it's not monday for everyone | ||
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: yes, I know. I started on the queue on Friday, but didn't make it through it all. | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | ah :) | 02:45 |
| Adri2000 | Hobbsee: looking to your debdiff... isn't it depend*e*ncy? | 02:45 |
| === Hobbsee notes that the SRU process is well and truly just a mess. | ||
| Hobbsee | dependancy dependency | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | hrm. | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | @spell | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | sucky Ubugtu | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | Adri2000: seems that both are accepted. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dependancy | 02:46 |
| Adri2000 | ah, ok | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | depends which country you're in, most likely | 02:47 |
| ogra | that's why english grammar is so easy ;) | 02:47 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: we're working on fixing it, and it doesn't really help that I'm alone doing archive work currently. We'll fix that in the coming week, though | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | okay, cool | 02:47 |
| === Hobbsee got bored | ||
| Hobbsee | it's too damn hot! | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | ogra: of course! *grin* | 02:47 |
| === ogra envys Hobbsee for the heat | ||
| Hobbsee | ogra: you're a german, right? you dont win that battle | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | heh. take it! | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | it's still about 26C, and it's 1am here... | 02:48 |
| ogra | Hobbsee, i just landed in oslo ... it's a 10-15C drop | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | lovely :P | 02:48 |
| ogra | and freaking snow all around ... | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | mmm...snow... | 02:49 |
| geser | Hobbsee: visit the sprint in oslo http://blog.omma.net/ | 02:49 |
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| ogra | the first winter ever where it doesnt get cold in germany at all ... and i fly to oslo ... | 02:49 |
| mdke | you get a proper winter there :) | 02:50 |
| Mithrandir | we just got one yesterday. | 02:50 |
| Mithrandir | perfect timing | 02:50 |
| ogra | i would skip winter completely if i could .... | 02:50 |
| mdke | yeah Henrik blogged about it | 02:50 |
| crimsun | ogra: (sorry to interrupt) Is it acceptable that pulseaudio installs /usr/bin/pulseaudio setuid root? | 02:50 |
| === Lathiat prefers winter over summer, except here winter doesn't get below 0 very often :) | ||
| Lathiat | crimsun: it does that to get realtime privs | 02:51 |
| crimsun | Lathiat: (yes, I'm currently using it thusly) | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | crimsun: restricted to users in group pulseaudio-rt, and drops privs on execution | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | ah ok, just thought i'd clarify if you werent sure :) | 02:51 |
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| ogra | crimsun, pitti approved it ... so i guess it's ok, but i'll ask him if he arrives | 02:51 |
| crimsun | ogra: ok, I was thinking that as well. Thanks. | 02:52 |
| ogra | i know he inspected it before i wrote the MIR already ... | 02:52 |
| ogra | so he should know about that | 02:52 |
| \sh | ogra: hey, how it's going? | 02:53 |
| ogra | \sh, well ... | 02:53 |
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| ogra | \sh, what would you think ... it's less than 36h ago that i buried fred ... so i'm still pretty bad ... but apart from my belly, all is fine | 02:54 |
| \sh | ogra: yeah, I know...I'm sorry about fred...but you know, just feel a bit happy for me :) carine is pregnant :) | 02:55 |
| ogra | congrats !! | 02:55 |
| ogra | even though i dont know her, send my greetings | 02:56 |
| \sh | ogra: done :) | 02:57 |
| ogra | :) | 02:57 |
| Chipzz | ogra: (a bit off-topic, if no-one cares) I live in Belgium, and we didn't get a real winter here this year... more like a very long autumn | 02:57 |
| Chipzz | which quite frankly has me worried | 02:57 |
| ogra | Chipzz, its the same in kassel where i moved to from the belgian border this august .... | 02:58 |
| Chipzz | feels like global warming is starting to show some effects | 02:58 |
| ogra | seems mostly in europe, which is kind of weird ... | 02:59 |
| Chipzz | ogra: oh? you from belgium, or near it? | 02:59 |
| ogra | none of the other continents seems to see such stuff | 02:59 |
| ogra | Chipzz, i'm originally from hannover, but lived in the eifel in blankenheim for three years ... | 02:59 |
| ogra | i would have stayed, but my GF inherited a huge house so we had to move ... | 03:00 |
| ogra | i love the area around there ... | 03:00 |
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| ogra | (and i loved it to only have a 1h drive to fosdem ) | 03:01 |
| Chipzz | ogra: oh, you coming to fosdem? :) | 03:03 |
| === Chipzz has been helping out organising fosdem for the last 3 years | ||
| ogra | i'll likely be at an EU conference for edubuntu in italy end of feb ... | 03:03 |
| ogra | if it by whatever reason gets moved i'll be there, for sure | 03:04 |
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| ogra | fosdem is the one and only serious linux fair you have to go to ! | 03:04 |
| Chipzz | we're trying to have a better wireless network this year btw :) | 03:04 |
| ogra | :) | 03:04 |
| Chipzz | not very trivial to do :( | 03:04 |
| ogra | yeah, its not that it would be small or something | 03:05 |
| Chipzz | problem last year was the ap's crashing due to too many people associating with some of them | 03:05 |
| Chipzz | which is not something which is easy to control | 03:05 |
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| simira | ogra: ah, are you in town yet? Did you bring Daniel as well? | 03:06 |
| ogra | yep, indeed but the year before you had no wlan at all iirc | 03:06 |
| ogra | simira, nope, i'm the early bird ... i think i was the first to arrive of the ppl coming today | 03:06 |
| Chipzz | ogra: that was 3 years ago, first year I helped out | 03:06 |
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| ogra | ah, right, 3 years | 03:07 |
| ogra | time flies | 03:07 |
| Lathiat | en masse wireless networks are a bit of fun :) | 03:08 |
| Lathiat | 802.11 sucks :) | 03:08 |
| Chipzz | yeah | 03:08 |
| Lathiat | more than 3 non-overlapping channels would be a godsend.. heh | 03:08 |
| ogra | simira, no i'm lying, i travelled with Brian Murray (new QA guy) without recognizing each other ... he saw my canonical laptop bag when we left the train at nationaltheateret :) | 03:08 |
| mdke | oh yeah? | 03:09 |
| mdke | he's been keeping quiet about that | 03:09 |
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| Chipzz | anyway we're going with 3com ap's for the main hallway this year, and linksys for the devel-rooms | 03:09 |
| ogra | mdke, that was less than 1h ago ... are you wired to his brain or something ? | 03:10 |
| mdke | I mean, that he's working at Canonical | 03:10 |
| simira | ogra: hehe, nice. dholbach just arrived. We'll be there in not very long, dropping by to bring some people on our sunday dog walk in the snow :p | 03:10 |
| ogra | i'm not sure brian is bdmurray ... we met first some minutes ago ... | 03:10 |
| mdke | ogra: yeah, I looked him up just now on Launchpad | 03:11 |
| Mithrandir | ogra: do we have canonical laptop bags or is this something you've had done yourself? | 03:11 |
| ogra | Mithrandir, its a HP/shuttleworth foundation/canonical/"go open source" bag i got from one of the SF guys at the first edubuntu conf | 03:12 |
| ogra | they made a joint project where they produced these bags ... i got the last one eft | 03:12 |
| ogra | *left | 03:12 |
| ogra | simira, i'll be downstairs and have a smoke then :) | 03:13 |
| ogra | (and wait for ian to give him his room key) | 03:13 |
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| bSON | hi | 03:45 |
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| bSON | is somebody from the ubuntu desktop team here? | 03:50 |
| Adri2000 | bSON: #ubuntu-desktop ? ;) | 03:52 |
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| bSON | Adri2000: oh.... :) | 03:53 |
| bSON | Adri2000: i just thought, because this here is the developers list... | 03:53 |
| bSON | /joi #ubuntu-desktop | 03:53 |
| bSON | oops | 03:53 |
| bSON | /join #ubuntu-desktop | 03:53 |
| bSON | help!... | 03:54 |
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| pochu | Mithrandir: are you here? | 04:21 |
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| jdong | grr, dist-upgrader turned off all my repositories except for main | 05:07 |
| jdong | and now I'm pulling lrm debs off the archive and transporting them via DVD :) | 05:07 |
| jdong | apparently it isn't amused that I use an apt-cacher | 05:07 |
| jdong | and turned all those off as 3rd-party :) | 05:08 |
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| Chipzz | jdong: does apt-cacher actually work for you? :P | 05:11 |
| jdong | yeah, quite well | 05:11 |
| jdong | since all my boxes are i386 it does indeed save me quite a bit of redownloading | 05:11 |
| Chipzz | also with resuming interupted downloads? | 05:11 |
| jdong | yes | 05:11 |
| jdong | I've only had one problem with it.... | 05:11 |
| jdong | it was a corrupted Packages index | 05:12 |
| jdong | and it would refuse to re-fetch it :) | 05:12 |
| jdong | I had to go in manually | 05:12 |
| jdong | apt-proxy also ain't bad | 05:12 |
| Chipzz | last time I tried it (which I admit is a whole time ago) it broke terribly | 05:12 |
| jdong | but apt-cache to me was faster at apt-get update than -proxy | 05:12 |
| jdong | Chipzz: I'm running latest fiesty backported version :) | 05:12 |
| Chipzz | yeah, must be over 1.5 years ago on debian | 05:13 |
| jdong | lol | 05:14 |
| jdong | that's a long time :) | 05:14 |
| === jdong files bug 80853 | ||
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80853 in nautilus "Nautilus unmount progress dialog should show up for writable DVD+RW/DVD-RAM media" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80853 | 05:14 |
| jdong | and probably will get smacked in the face for being a crack addict :D | 05:14 |
| === Chipzz thinks flashplugin-nonfree is on serious crack | ||
| Chipzz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/80545 | 05:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80545 in flashplugin-nonfree "Don't use /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 05:17 |
| Chipzz | that's just... so broken :( | 05:17 |
| jdong | yeah, I encounted that too when backport testing | 05:18 |
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| jdong | it's better now then it was with the 1st F9 beta | 05:18 |
| Chipzz | whoever came up with that deserves some serious readjustment with a cluebat | 05:18 |
| jdong | when it'd ASSUME that flash was already downloaded and not say anything/silently fail | 05:18 |
| jdong | unless you run it with debconf low priority | 05:19 |
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| jdong | infinity_: ping? | 06:14 |
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| tarzeau | tsmithe: gnu/kfreebsd is pretty nice, you just don't have enough patience | 06:16 |
| tsmithe | tarzeau, yeah - i would have thought it was... it just panics in virtualbox though | 06:16 |
| tsmithe | and i can't be bothered to use kqemu | 06:17 |
| tsmithe | :) | 06:17 |
| tarzeau | tsmithe: it works fine in vmware, real and qemu | 06:19 |
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| tsmithe | not vbox; which is the fastest free vm here. vmware doesn't work (clock problems) and kqemu is slow | 06:20 |
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| tarzeau | tsmithe: is vbox packaged already? | 06:24 |
| tsmithe | not the open source version | 06:24 |
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| tsmithe | i just built from svn | 06:24 |
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| davmor2 | noticed an error with gossip telepathy but wanted to check if it was being worked on before I submit a bug. You can't changed you personal details. When you click save nothing happens. If you click on edit to check the whole thing is blank again. | 11:39 |
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| Zdra_ | davmor2: contact information are not currently supported by telepathy | 11:43 |
| Zdra_ | it's not even in the spec | 11:43 |
| davmor2 | bddebian: this is in gossip so I don't know if it is something that was in the original code base but if you click on edit you get accounts/personal info/preferences | 11:45 |
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| Zdra_ | davmor2: gossip and gossip-telepathy packages are not modified in ubuntu, so I doubt bugs comes from ubuntu... they can be reported upstream ;) | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | no probs thanks | 11:47 |
| Zdra_ | davmor2: for gossip-telepathy, features missing are known so it's useless to report them | 11:48 |
| Zdra_ | bug I would be happy to have crash reports | 11:48 |
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| davmor2 | bddebian: try editing the personal details and hitting save it just freezes. | 11:49 |
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| davmor2 | no crash report though | 11:50 |
| Zdra_ | if it free you should report too, what I mean is it's useless to open a bug saying for example "I don't see avatars using MSN account" because avatars are just not yet implemented, as for contact information, etc... you should report when there is a problem like a crash or a freeze | 11:51 |
| davmor2 | right thanks bddebian | 11:54 |
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