[12:47] <jdong> infinity: ping; MOTU Media isn't in the exception list for pkgbinarymangler for ffmpeg... 
[01:23] <shaya> anyone else having issues w/ the new gaim in feisty?
[01:23] <shaya> oscar_list_emblems() is segfaulting it seems
[01:44] <jdong> infinity: can you also look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/avidemux/1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu2 for me? It failed with a very strange error that I can't reproduce in pbuilders; and interestingly two of the arches built it fine and executed the exact same commands in the buildlog
[01:44] <jdong> (and it wasn't a compile task either, so arch shouldn't have mattered....)
[02:40] <alex-weej> is there such thing as an "ubuntu aesthetics team" or something?
[02:40] <alex-weej> of which the artwork team would be a subordinate i'd guess
[02:41] <bhale> mpt is the UI snob
[02:42] <alex-weej> i mean a team that can be tasked with realizing things that people want to make everything just look sexy
[02:42] <alex-weej> one that decides things such as font settings
[02:42] <alex-weej> shadow settings, etc. etc.
[02:45] <snikker> i'm unable to make a .deb package from source. i've got an error: "dh_install: command returned error code 256"
[02:48] <somerville32> snikker, see #ubuntu-motu
[02:52] <snikker> somerville32: ok, thanks
[02:52] <somerville32> :)
[02:52] <somerville32> np
[02:53] <snikker> somerville32: :)
[04:26] <bytee_> hi, does anyone have any news with regards to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview ? I don't see a summary from the Technical Board Agenda ?
[04:30] <mpt> alex-weej, no, that sort of thing is decided higher up
[04:33] <mpt> And as for fonts, there aren't really any good typefaces to choose from yet (Bitstream Vera is better than Helvetica was, but it's still blah)
[11:07] <bytee_> hi, does anyone have any news with regards to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview ? I don't see a summary from the Technical Board Agenda ?
[12:00] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Please give-back scgi on all arches, thanks.
[12:01] <Mithrandir> StevenK: given-back
[12:02] <Hobbsee> hey Mithrandir!
[12:02] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee :-)
[12:02] <Mithrandir> how was LCA?
[12:02] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Thank you kindly
[12:03] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: was good :)  so was the dinner afterwards
[12:03] <Mithrandir> good to hear.
[12:03] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: didnt see the bottle dance or anythign though :P
[12:03] <Mithrandir> I'd have to loved to be there.
[12:05] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: :)
[12:05] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: i'm looking into spainn...
[12:05] <Hobbsee> -n
[12:05] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: that'd be fun.
[12:05] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: I'm sure you can get sponsorship if you apply for it too
[12:05] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: indeed :)
[12:05] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: yeah, i'd have to
[12:41] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: could you sponsor something for me, in a minute please?
[12:47] <simira> Mithrandir: he's busy hunting worms
[12:48] <Hobbsee> simira: ahhh.  hope he's early then
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: infinity_ ping @ the edgy-proposed queue
[02:35] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: hmm?
[02:35] <\sh> moins
[02:37] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: is wxwidgets2.6 stuck in the queue?
[02:41] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: if you could sponsor the upload of http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/gnome-applets.debdiff to make gnome-applets installable again, that'd be good.
[02:42] <Mithrandir> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= is the unapproved queue for edgy, there's a wxwidgets2.6 there, yes.
[02:42] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: 403'd
[02:43] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: sure, I could do that, or just get seb to do it tomorrow.
[02:43] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: can you approve that to -proposed please?
[02:43] <Hobbsee> you could, yes
[02:43] <Mithrandir> hmm, I thought the queue was supposed to be visible to everybody. :-/
[02:43] <Adri2000> the feisty one is
[02:43] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: seems not
[02:44] <Mithrandir> I'm working my way through the queue, but try not to work outside work hours, so if you don't mind, I'll get to it tomorrow.
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: that's fine.  it's just been there a long time.  
[02:45] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: yes, I know.  I started on the queue on Friday, but didn't make it through it all.
[02:45] <Hobbsee> ah :)
[02:45] <Adri2000> Hobbsee: looking to your debdiff... isn't it depend*e*ncy?
[02:46] <Hobbsee> dependancy dependency
[02:46] <Hobbsee> hrm.
[02:46] <Hobbsee> @spell
[02:46] <Hobbsee> sucky Ubugtu 
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Adri2000: seems that both are accepted.  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dependancy
[02:47] <Adri2000> ah, ok
[02:47] <Hobbsee> depends which country you're in, most likely
[02:47] <ogra> that's why english grammar is so easy ;)
[02:47] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: we're working on fixing it, and it doesn't really help that I'm alone doing archive work currently.  We'll fix that in the coming week, though
[02:47] <Hobbsee> okay, cool
[02:47] <Hobbsee> it's too damn hot!
[02:47] <Hobbsee> ogra: of course!  *grin*
[02:48] <Hobbsee> ogra: you're a german, right?  you dont win that battle
[02:48] <Hobbsee> heh.  take it!
[02:48] <Hobbsee> it's still about 26C, and it's 1am here...
[02:48] <ogra> Hobbsee, i just landed in oslo ... it's a 10-15C drop 
[02:48] <Hobbsee> lovely :P
[02:49] <ogra> and freaking snow all around ...
[02:49] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:49] <Hobbsee> mmm...snow...
[02:49] <geser> Hobbsee: visit the sprint in oslo http://blog.omma.net/
[02:49] <ogra> the first winter ever where it doesnt get cold in germany at all ... and i fly to oslo ...
[02:50] <mdke> you get a proper winter there :)
[02:50] <Mithrandir> we just got one yesterday.
[02:50] <Mithrandir> perfect timing
[02:50] <ogra> i would skip winter completely if i could ....
[02:50] <mdke> yeah Henrik blogged about it
[02:50] <crimsun> ogra: (sorry to interrupt) Is it acceptable that pulseaudio installs /usr/bin/pulseaudio setuid root?
[02:51] <Lathiat> crimsun: it does that to get realtime privs
[02:51] <crimsun> Lathiat: (yes, I'm currently using it thusly)
[02:51] <Lathiat> crimsun: restricted to users in group pulseaudio-rt, and drops privs on execution
[02:51] <Lathiat> ah ok, just thought i'd clarify if you werent sure :)
[02:51] <ogra> crimsun, pitti approved it ... so i guess it's ok, but i'll ask him if he arrives
[02:52] <crimsun> ogra: ok, I was thinking that as well. Thanks.
[02:52] <ogra> i know he inspected it before i wrote the MIR already ... 
[02:52] <ogra> so he should know about that
[02:53] <\sh> ogra: hey, how it's going?
[02:53] <ogra> \sh, well ... 
[02:54] <ogra> \sh, what would you think ... it's less than 36h ago that i buried fred ... so i'm still pretty bad ... but apart from my belly, all is fine 
[02:55] <\sh> ogra: yeah, I know...I'm sorry about fred...but you know, just feel a bit happy for me :) carine is pregnant :)
[02:55] <ogra> congrats !!
[02:56] <ogra> even though i dont know her, send my greetings
[02:57] <\sh> ogra: done :)
[02:57] <ogra> :)
[02:57] <Chipzz> ogra: (a bit off-topic, if no-one cares) I live in Belgium, and we didn't get a real winter here this year... more like a very long autumn
[02:57] <Chipzz> which quite frankly has me worried
[02:58] <ogra> Chipzz, its the same in kassel where i moved to from the belgian border this august ....
[02:58] <Chipzz> feels like global warming is starting to show some effects
[02:59] <ogra> seems mostly in europe, which is kind of weird ...
[02:59] <Chipzz> ogra: oh? you from belgium, or near it?
[02:59] <ogra> none of the other continents seems to see such stuff
[02:59] <ogra> Chipzz, i'm originally from hannover, but lived in the eifel in blankenheim for three years ...
[03:00] <ogra> i would have stayed, but my GF inherited a huge house so we had to move ...
[03:00] <ogra> i love the area around there ...
[03:01] <ogra> (and i loved it to only have a 1h drive to fosdem )
[03:03] <Chipzz> ogra: oh, you coming to fosdem? :)
[03:03] <ogra> i'll likely be at an EU conference for edubuntu in italy end of feb ... 
[03:04] <ogra> if it by whatever reason gets moved i'll be there, for sure
[03:04] <ogra> fosdem is the one and only serious linux fair you have to go to !
[03:04] <Chipzz> we're trying to have a better wireless network this year btw :)
[03:04] <ogra> :)
[03:04] <Chipzz> not very trivial to do :(
[03:05] <ogra> yeah, its not that it would be small or something 
[03:05] <Chipzz> problem last year was the ap's crashing due to too many people associating with some of them
[03:05] <Chipzz> which is not something which is easy to control
[03:06] <simira> ogra: ah, are you in town yet? Did you bring Daniel as well?
[03:06] <ogra> yep, indeed but the year before you had no wlan at all iirc
[03:06] <ogra> simira, nope, i'm the early bird ... i think i was the first to arrive of the ppl coming today
[03:06] <Chipzz> ogra: that was 3 years ago, first year I helped out
[03:07] <ogra> ah, right, 3 years
[03:07] <ogra> time flies
[03:08] <Lathiat> en masse wireless networks are a bit of fun :)
[03:08] <Lathiat> 802.11 sucks :)
[03:08] <Chipzz> yeah
[03:08] <Lathiat> more than 3 non-overlapping channels would be a godsend.. heh
[03:08] <ogra> simira, no i'm lying, i travelled with Brian Murray (new QA guy) without recognizing each other ... he saw my canonical laptop bag when we left the train at nationaltheateret :)
[03:09] <mdke> oh yeah?
[03:09] <mdke> he's been keeping quiet about that
[03:09] <Chipzz> anyway we're going with 3com ap's for the main hallway this year, and linksys for the devel-rooms
[03:10] <ogra> mdke, that was less than 1h ago ... are you wired to his brain or something ? 
[03:10] <mdke> I mean, that he's working at Canonical
[03:10] <simira> ogra: hehe, nice. dholbach just arrived. We'll be there in not very long, dropping by to bring some people on our sunday dog walk in the snow :p
[03:10] <ogra> i'm not sure brian is bdmurray ... we met first some minutes ago ...
[03:11] <mdke> ogra: yeah, I looked him up just now on Launchpad
[03:11] <Mithrandir> ogra: do we have canonical laptop bags or is this something you've had done yourself?
[03:12] <ogra> Mithrandir, its a HP/shuttleworth foundation/canonical/"go open source" bag i got from one of the SF guys at the first edubuntu conf
[03:12] <ogra> they made a joint project where they produced these bags ... i got the last one eft
[03:12] <ogra> *left
[03:13] <ogra> simira, i'll be downstairs and have a smoke then :)
[03:13] <ogra> (and wait for ian to give him his room key)
[03:45] <bSON> hi
[03:50] <bSON> is somebody from the ubuntu desktop team here?
[03:52] <Adri2000> bSON: #ubuntu-desktop ? ;)
[03:53] <bSON> Adri2000: oh.... :)
[03:53] <bSON> Adri2000: i just thought, because this here is the developers list...
[03:53] <bSON> /joi #ubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <bSON> oops
[03:53] <bSON>  /join #ubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <bSON> help!...
[04:21] <pochu> Mithrandir: are you here?
[05:07] <jdong> grr, dist-upgrader turned off all my repositories except for main
[05:07] <jdong> and now I'm pulling lrm debs off the archive and transporting them via DVD :)
[05:07] <jdong> apparently it isn't amused that I use an apt-cacher
[05:08] <jdong> and turned all those off as 3rd-party :)
[05:11] <Chipzz> jdong: does apt-cacher actually work for you? :P
[05:11] <jdong> yeah, quite well
[05:11] <jdong> since all my boxes are i386 it does indeed save me quite a bit of redownloading
[05:11] <Chipzz> also with resuming interupted downloads?
[05:11] <jdong> yes
[05:11] <jdong> I've only had one problem with it....
[05:12] <jdong> it was a corrupted Packages index
[05:12] <jdong> and it would refuse to re-fetch it :)
[05:12] <jdong> I had to go in manually
[05:12] <jdong> apt-proxy also ain't bad
[05:12] <Chipzz> last time I tried it (which I admit is a whole time ago) it broke terribly
[05:12] <jdong> but apt-cache to me was faster at apt-get update than -proxy
[05:12] <jdong> Chipzz: I'm running latest fiesty backported version :)
[05:13] <Chipzz> yeah, must be over 1.5 years ago on debian
[05:14] <jdong> lol
[05:14] <jdong> that's a long time :)
[05:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80853 in nautilus "Nautilus unmount progress dialog should show up for writable DVD+RW/DVD-RAM media" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80853
[05:14] <jdong> and probably will get smacked in the face for being a crack addict :D
[05:17] <Chipzz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/80545
[05:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80545 in flashplugin-nonfree "Don't use /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[05:17] <Chipzz> that's just... so broken :(
[05:18] <jdong> yeah, I encounted that too when backport testing
[05:18] <jdong> it's better now then it was with the 1st F9 beta
[05:18] <Chipzz> whoever came up with that deserves some serious readjustment with a cluebat
[05:18] <jdong> when it'd ASSUME that flash was already downloaded and not say anything/silently fail
[05:19] <jdong> unless you run it with debconf low priority
[06:14] <jdong> infinity_: ping?
[06:16] <tarzeau> tsmithe: gnu/kfreebsd is pretty nice, you just don't have enough patience
[06:16] <tsmithe> tarzeau, yeah - i would have thought it was... it just panics in virtualbox though
[06:17] <tsmithe> and i can't be bothered to use kqemu
[06:17] <tsmithe> :)
[06:19] <tarzeau> tsmithe: it works fine in vmware, real and qemu
[06:20] <tsmithe> not vbox; which is the fastest free vm here. vmware doesn't work (clock problems) and kqemu is slow
[06:24] <tarzeau> tsmithe: is vbox packaged already?
[06:24] <tsmithe> not the open source version
[06:24] <tsmithe> i just built from svn
[11:39] <davmor2> noticed an error with gossip telepathy but wanted to check if it was being worked on before I submit a bug.  You can't changed you personal details.  When you click save nothing happens.  If you click on edit to check the whole thing is blank again.
[11:43] <Zdra_> davmor2: contact information are not currently supported by telepathy
[11:43] <Zdra_> it's not even in the spec
[11:45] <davmor2> bddebian: this is in gossip so I don't know if it is something that was in the original code base but if you click on edit you get accounts/personal info/preferences
[11:47] <Zdra_> davmor2: gossip and gossip-telepathy packages are not modified in ubuntu, so I doubt bugs comes from ubuntu... they can be reported upstream ;)
[11:47] <davmor2> no probs thanks
[11:48] <Zdra_> davmor2: for gossip-telepathy, features missing are known so it's useless to report them
[11:48] <Zdra_> bug I would be happy to have crash reports
[11:49] <davmor2> bddebian: try editing the personal details and hitting save it just freezes.
[11:50] <davmor2> no crash report though
[11:51] <Zdra_> if it free you should report too, what I mean is it's useless to open a bug saying for example "I don't see avatars using MSN account" because avatars are just not yet implemented, as for contact information, etc... you should report when there is a problem like a crash or a freeze
[11:54] <davmor2> right thanks bddebian