| theCore | mdke: maybe, I could host it | 12:19 |
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| mdke | theCore: I don't think there will be a problem with hosting, but thanks for the offer | 12:20 |
| theCore | ah ok | 12:20 |
| nixternal | so am I reading into this correctly? Are we going to start using Bazaar and push away from SVN? | 12:52 |
| mdke | nixternal: no, just talking about bzr | 12:53 |
| nixternal | ahh ok, I was just a little confused maybe with getting rid of https://docteam and forwarding it to doc.ubuntu.com | 12:53 |
| nixternal | and the initial "OMG this takes forever" factor of Bazaar | 12:53 |
| nixternal | mdke: here is what I have noticed. Bazaar uses your SSH RSA key, and my KDE SVN account also uses my SSH RSA key, and KDE SVN+SSH is slow initially just like Bazaar. I wonder if it has something to do with that | 12:55 |
| LaserJock | well, one of the bzr guys told me yesterday that latency was the problem, or something like tht | 12:58 |
| nixternal | that is a lot of latency | 12:59 |
| LaserJock | but supposedly when this "smart server" thing is done it'll be afaster | 12:59 |
| mdke | nixternal: nothing was said about getting rid of https://docteam. it's http://docteam (without the "s") that we've forwarded to doc.ubuntu.com | 12:59 |
| nixternal | i wonder if the SSH authentication is just slower than normal | 12:59 |
| nixternal | mdke: gotcha! | 12:59 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: I don't think so because I've used bzr without ssh and it was still slow | 01:00 |
| nixternal | ahh | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | but right now it's it's slower then zvn by a factor of 3 | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | but that's on initial checkout | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | we need to test the actual spped of use | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | because you only checkout once (or at least not that often) | 01:01 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: the actual speed of use is damn close to SVN | 01:03 |
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| nixternal | so I have noted with the sandbox Riddell created and the Ichthux branches | 01:03 |
| nixternal | hiya jsgotangco! | 01:04 |
| LaserJock | hmm, this seems odd: ping for www.ubuntu.com is 199ms but for my lab computers at the uni it's 1000ms :( | 01:07 |
| nixternal | haha | 01:08 |
| nixternal | nice | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | so it's 5 times faster to go 5000+ miles than 5 | 01:09 |
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| nixternal | well for me, if I use ca.archive it is way faster than using us.archive. and our group manages the US archive at Argonne which is less than 10 miles from me | 01:11 |
| nixternal | us == 106ms and ca == 35ms | 01:12 |
| LaserJock | shesh | 01:12 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 01:13 |
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| nixternal | jsgotangco: just ordered Portillos :) | 01:22 |
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| jsgotangco | lol | 01:22 |
| jsgotangco | alright im out ciao | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | cya jsgotangco | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | hi, btw | 01:26 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 01:26 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 01:26 |
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| mpt | mdke, the summary at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/help-and-support-access could be updated with the summary from the spec itself | 04:31 |
| mpt | (but I don't have permission to do that) | 04:31 |
| coreyt | Any of you guys running Beryl on Edgy? | 05:24 |
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| coreyt | sheesh | 06:46 |
| coreyt | some of those devs in beryl-dev need an attitude adjustment. | 06:46 |
| Laser_away | :-) | 06:49 |
| crimsun | meh, I just ignore them. | 06:49 |
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| mdke | mpt: ok | 11:45 |
| mdke | mpt: done | 11:46 |
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| fijam | Hey, who else is working on xubuntu desktop guide? | 12:13 |
| mdke | fijam: somerville32 | 12:14 |
| mdke | that's about it | 12:14 |
| fijam | and nobody else? It seems that there's a lot of work to be done | 12:14 |
| mdke | fijam: yeah, that's right I think. | 12:15 |
| mdke | fijam: the important thing is to make realistic targets, don't bite off too much for each release | 12:15 |
| fijam | Yeah, I am aware of it | 12:15 |
| fijam | thanks anyway | 12:16 |
| mdke | a guy called luzi was working on it | 12:16 |
| mdke | but he said he hasn't got much time | 12:16 |
| fijam | Luzius Something? | 12:16 |
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| mdke | that's right | 12:16 |
| fijam | I'll search for some contact | 12:17 |
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| fijam | hmm, xubuntu documentation structure is organized differently from ubuntu/kubuntu documentation. Do you happen to know if that's done purpousefully or it is like that because it is outdated? | 12:49 |
| mdke | fijam: in this release the ubuntu/kubuntu documentation changed structure very substantially | 12:50 |
| mdke | fijam: as yet the xubuntu documentation hasn't had enough contributors to do the same, although Cody has some plans I think | 12:50 |
| fijam | I'll have to ask him for details | 12:52 |
| mdke | yep | 12:53 |
| fijam | ok, see you later | 12:53 |
| mdke | you should make integration of xfce upstream documentation a big target, IMO | 12:53 |
| fijam | we'll see what we can do with our limited manpower | 12:54 |
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| fijam | but I agree that xubuntu shouldn't fall behind | 12:54 |
| fijam | bye | 12:54 |
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| fijam | is conglomerate a good tool to edit docbook documentation? | 03:21 |
| mdke | fijam: I personally don't like it much | 03:29 |
| mdke | but you can try it! | 03:30 |
| fijam | any alternatives? (I suppose I'll stay with bare code anyway) | 03:36 |
| mdke | fijam: I think most of us tend to use normal editors or bluefish | 03:36 |
| fijam | ok, thanks | 03:37 |
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| medders | Hi, I'm going to record a screencast (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Requests/ManagingDigitalPhotos) and wondered if anyone had any comments on my draft plan | 04:47 |
| popey | am not at home right now, will have a look when I get in, is that okay? | 04:48 |
| medders | popey: yeah sure, any time would be alright by me | 04:48 |
| dsas | medders: f-spot is installed by default | 04:50 |
| medders | dsas: i was thinking about using dapper | 04:50 |
| medders | dsas: I did't think it was installed there | 04:50 |
| dsas | no, it was an edgy change. | 04:50 |
| mdke | we should try and get the screencasts as up to date as possible, though | 04:50 |
| mdke | in particular, we should start aiming at feisty soonish | 04:51 |
| medders | thats true | 04:51 |
| medders | i doubt the businesses and such that use the LTS would look at the screencasts | 04:52 |
| medders | do you think that f-spot should be the default for importing photos? | 04:54 |
| medders | gthumb seems dated next to it | 04:54 |
| mdke | yes | 04:54 |
| medders | do you know if it will be in feisty? | 04:55 |
| mdke | I thought it was already in Edgy | 04:55 |
| dsas | there's been no mention of removing f-spot for feisty. | 04:55 |
| medders | i mean making it the default for importing photos | 04:56 |
| medders | :) | 04:56 |
| dsas | I didn't realise it wasn't to be honest. | 04:56 |
| medders | i havn't checked in feisty but I know that in edgy gThumb is still the default | 04:57 |
| mdke | I'll check in a bit | 04:58 |
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| mdke | medders: no, it's still gthumb, you could file a bug about that if you want | 05:06 |
| medders | mdke: Cheers, I'll do that sometime today | 05:06 |
| medders | Done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/80856 | 05:24 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80856 in Ubuntu "F-Spot as default for importing photos" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 05:24 |
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| dsas | hmm, I could be wrong mdke, but I thought you were one of the people against f-spot being default in edgy. | 05:26 |
| mdke | dsas: yeah, you're right | 05:31 |
| mdke | I've converted now :) | 05:31 |
| dsas | mdke: Did your problems get fixed? | 05:31 |
| mdke | dsas: no, I changed the way I manage photos | 05:32 |
| dsas | ah, I remember, to dated folders from organised folders? | 05:34 |
| dsas | I always used dated folders anyway, that's what my camera did on windows... | 05:35 |
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| mdke | I just imported everything into f-spot | 05:36 |
| medders | do you know what command I should use to get f-spot to autmatically import the photos from a camera? | 05:47 |
| medders | the one that goes into the removable drives and media dialog | 05:47 |
| medders | I've got it up until "f-spot --import" | 05:47 |
| medders | but I don't know how to pas the right directory to it | 05:47 |
| mdke | you open that dialogue from System/Control Center/Removable Drives and Media | 05:47 |
| mdke | or did I misunderstand? | 05:47 |
| medders | Yup, sorry, should have said | 05:48 |
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| fijam | Is there any reference or specification that covers the new structure of documentation available? | 06:19 |
| mdke | TopicBasedHelp | 06:20 |
| fijam | ah, right | 06:20 |
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| mpt | At the local Saturday market there was a guy with a big sign offering "Free Hugs" | 07:35 |
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| mpt | and a cameraman nearby for the inevitable YouTubery | 07:35 |
| mdke | mpt: did you give him one? | 07:35 |
| Admiral_Chicago | mpt: i think that's the first I ever heard of YouTubery | 07:35 |
| mdke | "This is from the Ubuntu docteam | 07:36 |
| mpt | http://youtube.com/results?search_query=free+hugs | 07:36 |
| mpt | mdke, alas, the market was nearly closed and I had to run to get some money to buy stuff | 07:36 |
| mpt | and when I returned they had vanished | 07:37 |
| mdke | I bet it was all in your imagination | 07:40 |
| nixternal | mdke: jjesse sent an email about the SRU for Kubuntu-docs. I have responded, but won't be able to send it out until I get home | 07:43 |
| nixternal | it seems they block some ports here at the college | 07:43 |
| mdke | I read it | 07:46 |
| popey | evening all | 08:45 |
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| mdke | crimsun: can you remind me of the commands I need to do for debugging that audio thing? Just doing the bug report now. | 09:31 |
| crimsun | tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer && lspci -nv && asoundconf list && cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* && dmesg && cat /proc/interrupts | 09:32 |
| mdke | whoosh | 09:32 |
| mdke | crimsun: which of those was the one I did both on a cold boot and after hibernate? | 09:33 |
| crimsun | the following one: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*/* | 09:33 |
| mdke | great | 09:33 |
| crimsun | I believe Andrew Ash has added a link to that LP bug comment on the DebuggingSoundProblems wiki page | 09:34 |
| crimsun | ah, he just dumped the entire comment (essentially) at the top of the page | 09:35 |
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| crimsun | just as good | 09:35 |
| popey | mdke: are you serious that you think screencasts should target feisty? | 09:38 |
| mdke | popey: well, I said we should start thinking about it | 09:39 |
| popey | ok | 09:39 |
| mdke | crimsun: it's bug 80893 | 09:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80893 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Audio disappears after hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80893 | 09:39 |
| popey | problem is the UI changes so we can be instantly out of date | 09:40 |
| popey | unless we wait and start making them after the freeze? | 09:40 |
| popey | (I considered this for dapper last year) | 09:40 |
| crimsun | mdke: triaged, thanks. | 09:41 |
| mdke | Well, it depends if the freeze is going to mean something or not | 09:41 |
| popey | heh | 09:41 |
| mdke | thank you crimsun | 09:41 |
| popey | take for example the herd2 had System --> preferences whereas now feisty has the gnome control center | 09:41 |
| mdke | crimsun: I'm not sure that it occurs after suspend, only hibernate. Let me try | 09:42 |
| mdke | crimsun: yeah, it's fine after suspend | 09:44 |
| crimsun | Description amended. | 09:44 |
| mdke | :) | 09:44 |
| crimsun | well, that pushes it square into suspend code | 09:45 |
| crimsun | squarely | 09:45 |
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| crimsun | (suspend-to-disk) | 09:45 |
| mdke | ah | 09:46 |
| crimsun | ok, this might be dumb, but... | 09:47 |
| crimsun | upon resuming from suspend-to-disk, is the volume key's mute/unmute toggle working? | 09:47 |
| mdke | I'll check | 09:48 |
| crimsun | I _think_ the T43 has one | 09:48 |
| mdke | it has a mute, not an unmute though | 09:48 |
| mdke | or rather, you press the mute button to mute it, then the volume up key to unmute it | 09:48 |
| crimsun | right, so you'd have to lower/raise the volume using one of the other hotkeys to unmute | 09:48 |
| mdke | I'll try. | 09:49 |
| mdke | crimsun: one thing I just realised. | 09:49 |
| mdke | crimsun: what i just did was: cold boot (working), hibernate (not working), suspend (without rebooting - working) | 09:49 |
| crimsun | right, I figured you did that ;) | 09:49 |
| mdke | crazy that suspending it makes it work again, without rebooting | 09:50 |
| mdke | ok, I'll try another hibernate | 09:50 |
| crimsun | would you test the cold boot -> suspend-to-ram -> resume path? | 09:50 |
| mdke | sure | 09:50 |
| mdke | crimsun: that path works. Trying hibernate again now | 09:54 |
| mdke | crimsun: ok, the volume keys seem to work, in that Gnome is showing me volume ups/downs/mutes. But sound isn't coming out | 09:57 |
| crimsun | mdke: ok, thanks | 09:58 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3707 ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent: some entities used in office.xml | 11:57 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3708 kubuntu/C/office/office.xml: some typos | 12:00 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3709 /trunk/ (18 files in 3 dirs): adding pot files and script to make em easily. More checking needs to be done for these | 12:00 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3710 ubuntu/pots/.pot: whoops | 12:01 |
| mdke | ;) | 12:01 |
| mpt | mdke, what's the plan for dealing with the empty contents pane? | 12:06 |
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| mdke | mpt: which pane? | 12:09 |
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