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rexbronany revu admins that read this, please remove soma_2.3.1.dsc 12:18
rexbronthe latest version12:18
LaserJockrexbron: you can also email them12:21
rexbronrevu@?12:21
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rexbrontauware.de?12:21
LaserJockI don't think so12:21
LaserJockcheck the REVU wiki page12:21
rexbronkk12:21
rexbronhmm, the address listed is for keyring12:23
LaserJockfurther down the page12:24
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rexbronthanks LaserJock12:25
tenshuanyone could recommand me a package build with CDBS containing a php app?12:28
jdonggeser: is this pkgbinarymangler thing new in Feisty, as far as the buildds are concerned?12:30
LaserJockjdong: since Edgy I think12:31
geserpkgbinarymangler exists already in edgy12:31
jdonghmm12:31
jdongthen why did the build fail?12:32
jdongI'm still not understanding what the error message means12:32
geserit contains the two programs that do the maintainer mangling in the binary debs on the buildds and pkgstriptranslations12:32
jdongthe package definitely built in Edgy buildd's fine12:32
jdongno new ffmpeg has been released since feisty's open12:33
geserwhich package?12:33
jdonggeser: ffmpeg: http://librarian.launchpad.net/5805778/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.ffmpeg_3%3A0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz12:33
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geserthe normal pbuilder doesn't have pkgbinarymangler installed (but the buildds have)12:34
jdonggeser: I did a 1-line patch to x264.c, and also a unrelated debian/rules change to unlock more cheatcodes in 'risky mode'12:34
jdonggeser: as I said, this package has been unchanged basically since its late-Edgy upload and that built just fine...12:34
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LaserJockjdong: ouch that is a not-so-nice error12:34
jdongLaserJock: I know... never seen anything like it before12:35
jdongand can a more experience eye look at this one for me, too? : http://librarian.launchpad.net/5805779/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-amd64.avidemux_1%3A2.3.0-0.0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz12:35
jdongit complains about a translation file missing12:35
jdongbut I just built the same source pkg again in my pbuilder12:35
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jdongand could not cause that error to show up12:35
jdongat this point I'm beginning to question my sanity :)12:36
geserha, we are supposed to change the Maintainer (and set Original-Maintainer) but the buildds don't like it12:36
LaserJockyep12:37
geserjdong: it's not pkgstriptranslations erroring but pkgmaintainermangler12:37
LaserJockjdong: the problem is that Original-Maintiner is set in debian/control12:37
jdongLaserJock: it is?12:37
LaserJockyep12:37
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jdongI swear I didn't see it before :)12:38
geserjdong: "[...]  already contains an Original-Maintainer field"12:38
LaserJockMaintainer: MOTU Media Team <motumedia@tauware.de>12:38
LaserJockOriginal-Maintainer: Sam Hocevar (Debian packages) <sam+deb@zoy.org>12:38
jdongLaserJock: yeah, I see that now12:38
jdongLaserJock: it wasn't in the debdiff I gave crimsun....12:38
jdongcrimsun: contentless ping....12:38
jdongha! I defeated his ping checker!12:39
LaserJockjdong: cruel12:39
jdonglol12:39
jdongLaserJock: so do humans put in that field or could it have been done automagically during the upload?12:39
LaserJockwell, at this moment I'm not exactly sure12:40
LaserJockit's currently being discussed12:40
LaserJockI think it has to be human because I don't think they've implemented the automagic stuff yet12:40
jdongok12:40
LaserJockwe were told that we should be doing it12:40
LaserJockbut there's debate as to what field it should be exactly12:41
LaserJockso nobody has been doing it yet I don't think12:41
LaserJockbut maybe crimsun added it12:41
jdongwell, this is the first then :)12:41
jdongcrimsun: ok, serious ping, ffmpeg's Original-Maintainer field upsets buildd; apologies about the previous contentless ping12:42
geseras the mail to feisty-changes already has motu media as maintainer I'd guess crimsun did it12:42
geser\sh also uploaded some packages with modified maintainer12:43
jdongany takers on the avidemux FTBFS I posted?12:44
geserjdong: the build failed because MOTU Media isn't in the exception list for pkgbinarymangler12:44
geserfor ffmpeg12:44
jdonggeser: ok... who do I go to for fixing that?12:44
geserask infinity or pitti as they maintain pkgbinarymangler12:46
LaserJockdarn, I hate it when all the good stuff is in the devel release12:47
jdongany ideas on http://librarian.launchpad.net/5805779/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-amd64.avidemux_1%3A2.3.0-0.0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?12:48
jdongmv: cannot stat `t-es.gmo': No such file or directory12:48
jdongit built fine twice in my pbuilder12:48
LaserJockI want to try bzr-builddeb :/12:48
geserI don't understand either why it succeeded on powerpc and sparc and failed on the other archs12:49
jdonggeser: nor do I; hence me questioning my sanity :)12:51
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gnomefreakis there a reason why pbuilder never makes ~/.pbuilderrc01:11
owhgnomefreak: It's having a bad hair day perhaps?01:11
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gnomefreakit never has from dapper to feisty :(01:12
owhgnomefreak: Sorry, my joke was an attempt at levity. I've just had my first coffee after a crap night sleep with a sore tooth. I'll try to be more helpful next time :-)01:14
somerville32gnomefreak, You don't want it to01:14
gnomefreaksomerville32: sure i do01:14
somerville32gnomefreak, The just create it.01:14
somerville32*Then01:14
gnomefreaksomerville32: why wouldnt i?01:14
LaserJockgnomefreak: why do you want one?01:14
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LaserJock~/.pbuilderrc will override /etc/pbuilderrc01:15
gnomefreakpath is ~/pbuilder/pbuilderrc   and for the config file01:15
gnomefreaki typoed the path sorry01:15
gnomefreakoh crap01:15
gnomefreakits /etc/01:15
LaserJockgnomefreak: heh, what exactly is your question/problem?01:16
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gnomefreaki was looking at the warning and it didnt create ~/pbuilder/pbuilderrc but if the config is /etc/pbuilder/pbuilderrc than i ignore it01:17
gnomefreaknow that im done traveling im setting my system up for building again :(01:18
owhgnomefreak: Done travelling already. After four years of it, I haven't even scratched the surface :)01:18
gnomefreaklol :)01:19
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LaserJockgnomefreak: don't use either /etc/pbuilder/pbuilderrc or ~/.pbuilderrc01:19
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gnomefreakLaserJock: so i dont need to follow guide in that much detail?01:20
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LaserJockgnomefreak: which guide?01:20
gnomefreakhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto?highlight=%28pbuilder%2901:20
LaserJockno, don't bother with that one01:21
gnomefreaki lost the good guide i had01:21
LaserJockgnomefreak: use http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/pbuilder-feisty01:22
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gnomefreaka new one ;)01:22
gnomefreakoh script01:22
LaserJockjust drop it into your PATH (I use ~/bin) and run pbuilder-feisty create01:22
LaserJockand then if you need a pbuilder for edgy say, just cp pbuilder-feisty to pbuilder-edgy and modify DISTRIBUTION in there01:23
LaserJockgnomefreak: that's a script that actually comes with pbuilder, I just modified it to work with Ubuntu01:24
gnomefreakput the script in ~/bin?01:24
LaserJockif ~/bin is in your path01:24
LaserJockalso mkdir -p ~/pbuilder/feisty_result01:25
LaserJock^^ is where your .debs will end up01:25
enycmeepmoop01:26
=== enyc had problem calculating upgrade problem with update-manager -d to fiesty!! well try again later... may post bugreport as requested!
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enyc(on experimental-machine) ;-)01:28
LaserJockgnomefreak: just add export PATH=~/bin:$PATH in .bashrc01:28
gnomefreakenyc: post it please. and attach the three files in /var/log/dist-upgrade ;)01:28
gnomefreakeasy enough :)01:29
enycgnomefreak: the funny thing is  apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade is happy (when ran with the new sources still set)01:29
enycgnomefreak: will do if i get the message again when look at machine next (soon!)01:30
enycwhy might there be a problem anyway?01:31
gnomefreakLaserJock: using sudo is ok right?01:31
gnomefreakfor pbuilder-feisty create01:31
LaserJockyou just have to do pbuilder-feisty create01:32
gnomefreakits telling me permissions denied01:32
gnomefreaksaved the script in /bin01:33
gnomefreakoops /bin/pbuilder-fesity01:33
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gnomefreakwhen i run pbuilder-feisty create it wants sudo01:33
gnomefreakmaybe chmod 755 it?01:34
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LaserJockgnomefreak: no01:35
LaserJockyou put it in ~/bin/ ?01:35
LaserJockand you run pbuilder-feisty create01:35
owhgnomefreak: Well, the script that LaserJock showed you has a sudo command in it, so that's not too surprising.01:35
gnomefreakyes im cded into bin atm and i see pbuilder-feisty there01:36
LaserJockand it asks you for your password, right01:36
gnomefreakyep01:36
LaserJockthat's right01:36
gnomefreakbash: /bin/pbuilder-feisty: Permission denied01:36
LaserJockpbuilder needs root privileges01:36
gnomefreakso sudo pbuilder-feisty create01:36
LaserJockno01:36
owhgnomefreak: Do you have a $HOME set?01:36
LaserJockthat script already has sudo in it01:37
gnomefreakofcourse not01:37
LaserJock?01:37
gnomefreaknope not in bashrc i dont01:37
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LaserJockgnomefreak: echo $HOME01:37
owhIndeed :)01:38
gnomefreakok01:38
gnomefreaknow it should work i hope01:38
gnomefreaknope and echo $HOME repeats my /gnomefreask/homne01:39
gnomefreakonly spelled right01:39
LaserJockand you have sudo rights on that computer?01:40
owhSo, just to make sure, you are a sudo-er?01:40
gnomefreakyes01:40
gnomefreakim the only user01:40
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gnomefreakshould i replace $HOME with my home dir?01:41
geserLaserJock: about your pbuilder script: have you see bug #57284 ?01:41
UbugtuMalone bug 57284 in pbuilder "examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh: Funny shell error" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5728401:41
owhI thought you just said that it was set to that.01:41
LaserJockgnomefreak: hmm, maybe you should 755 it01:41
gnomefreakin terminal when ran it gives me my home01:42
owhLaserJock: Would this work: HOME=~ pbuilder-feisty create01:42
gnomefreakoh crap01:42
gnomefreaknvm01:42
gnomefreakthat wasnt it either01:42
gnomefreakok ill try chmoding it01:42
LaserJockgeser: interesting01:42
gnomefreakok its building :)01:44
gnomefreakty01:44
LaserJockhmm, it'd dawn on me the first time you said it wasn't +x01:44
LaserJock*it didn't01:44
owhHeh01:45
gnomefreakah01:45
owhLaserJock: That's old age setting in early :-)01:45
LaserJockmust be01:46
LaserJockgrad school must be burning my brain out01:46
owhLaserJock: No, just all the chemicals :)01:47
LaserJockdoh01:48
geserLaserJock: if I'm not mistaken this "bug" is still in the script from the last pbuilder01:48
gnomefreakit hit me while i was smoking from when i was writing bash scrtipts you chmod a+x it :(01:49
owhAlso, the "new" script looks a whole lot less readable than your version does.01:49
owhI like the change for the DISTRIBUTION definition, but really it should be a parameter, or use the name of the script.01:50
geserI use DISTRIBUTION=`basename $0 | cut -f2 -d '-'`01:51
owhgeser: Yeah, but that means that if you want to change what you're building, you still need to change the script.01:51
owhgeser: If you use the name of the script itself, then it will just work.01:51
owhDoh.01:51
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owhgeser: I'm an idiot.01:52
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geserI've pbuilder-feisty and pbuilder-edgy (which is a symlink to the former)01:52
owhgeser: Yes, I read basename and thought uname.01:52
siretarttsmithe: I am around from time to time! :)01:52
owhgeser: It already does what I was espousing :)01:53
LaserJockowh: yeah, when you said that I suddenly realized that too01:53
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LaserJocksiretart: well, I installed bzr-builddeb on my edgy machine, hopefully it works ok01:55
owhSo, the script that LaserJock showed us should be modified with the DISTRIBUTION=`basename $0 | cut -f2 -d '-'`, *and* a fix for the ( $PROCEED == true ) bit. I'm not sure what it should be though.01:55
siretartLaserJock: does edgy have bzr 0.13? then it should work01:55
siretartLaserJock: otherwise, there is also an 0.11 branch, which we need for debian ATM01:56
LaserJockI get bzr from bazaar-vcs.org so I have 0.1401:57
LaserJockI grabed the Feisty debs of python-central, python-debian, and python-deb288 and they installed without complaint01:57
owhHey, anyone know a little/lot about OO.o builds around here?01:58
geserowh: the ( $PROCEED == true) part works but not for the reason you would imagine at first01:58
geserexport PROCEED=true; if ( $PROCEED == false ); then echo "true"; fi01:59
gesergives also "true"01:59
owhIndeed :-)01:59
gesera simple "if $PROCEED then" should also work02:00
siretartLaserJock: oh, if you use bzr 0.14, you might be interested in directly using james' 0.14 branch02:00
siretartLaserJock: the differences aren't that big, the bzr guys changed the API of the optionsparser, which needed to be adapted02:01
owhgeser: Well, PROCEED=true, makes $PROCEED contain a text string "true". But the compare, tests it against the command true, which is not the same thing. You could also do if ($PROCEED == "true").02:01
siretarthowever, james is using his 0.14 tree as trunk for further development02:01
geserowh: export PROCEED=true; if ( $PROCEED == "nottrue" ); then echo "true"; fi gives still true02:03
owhHmm, that didn't work as expected.02:03
owhgeser: Indeed.02:03
geserits the true from $PROCEED that gets executed02:03
owhgeser: So, I'm guessing that bash is getting in the way.02:03
geser( != [02:03
owhgeser: You are correct.02:03
owhgeser: That is about the $PROCEED being executed.02:04
geserif you set $PROCEED to something other you get "Command not found"02:04
owhgeser, This works: if [ $PROCEED == "true" ] 02:04
=== owh has no idea why :0)
geserbecause here it's a string02:05
=== owh does not know about the difference between [] and () in bash.
geserman [02:05
geserthough bash has a built-in [02:06
owhWell then would if [$PROCEED]  work?02:06
owhNop02:06
owh+e02:06
geser($PROCEED) would work, [$PROCEED]  not02:06
geserin the [ case $PROCEED is used as text02:07
owhgeser: Yes, because that would be executed as true. Simple :-)02:07
owhSo, the patch is remove '== "true"' from the script.02:07
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geserfor the toothache or the headache? :P02:09
owhgeser: Funnily enough a headache brought on by the toothache :0)02:09
owhAnyway. I've just had a client with a crashing OO install, using Dapper's v2.0.2, Edgy is running 2.0.4 and current stable from OO.o is 2.1. I noticed after rutting through the source that some functionality I see is actually missing from the source-code. Which leads me to ask. Where does Debian/Ubuntu get its source from?02:10
LaserJocka mythical code fairy02:11
owhI Debianised the RPM installer from OO.o's site, but of course that doesn't include the stuff that is in 2.0.2 and 2.0.4.02:11
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owhLaserJock: Feels like it :)02:11
geserLaserJock: aka doko?02:11
LaserJockowh: there isn't a Readme.Debian or anything?02:13
owhHmm, oo.o-scribblers is a big hint.02:13
owhLaserJock: Not with anything like that. It starts with "This is not up to date."02:13
LaserJockever so helpful02:13
owhJust for fun, this is what it says: [Note: This document didn't see yet a complete review for OpenOffice.org 2.0] 02:14
owhLaserJock: Someone in #dev.openoffice.org pointed to the idea that there is a Novell release, but I'm not sure if Debian would use that. The only source I found in the testing distribution points to v1.0.1 downloaded from OO.o02:15
owhLaserJock: It appears as if OO.o is a little like the kernel. Each distro adds its own patch set.02:16
owhLaserJock: Nothing like standardisation around here :)02:16
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snikkeri'm unable to make a .deb package from source. i've got an error: "dh_install: command returned error code 256"02:53
LaserJocksnikker: can you pastebin the whole build log for us?02:54
snikkeryes, just a moment...02:55
ajmitchdarn, the meeting time has been chosen, and it's the one I can't really attend so well03:00
snikkerLaserJock: http://pastebin.com/86394003:00
snikkerLaserJock: i've compiled it under edgy03:01
somerville32ajmitch, Thats so sad :(03:01
somerville32ajmitch, It's ok. I'll be there.03:01
ajmitchthat just makes me feel so much better03:02
=== somerville32 knew it would.
somerville32Besides, who said you were invited anyhow? :P03:02
LaserJockajmitch: how did Monday get choosen? It's split 3 to 3 on the wiki page03:02
ajmitchyeah, I don't know, thinking I'm a MOTU & all when I'm obviously not worthy of the title03:02
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=== somerville32 comforts ajmitch in his time of need.
LaserJocksomerville32: being one of the senior MOTUs and a core-dev usually  warrants an invite03:03
=== somerville32 would tend to think so.
ajmitchLaserJock: but I'm obviously not one, somerville32 has decreed it03:05
somerville32For sure03:05
LaserJocksnikker: can you translate "cp: impossibile fare stat di" for me?03:05
LaserJockI'm guessing something like maybe "can't find file" or something03:06
snikkerLaserJock: "cp: unable to make stat of"03:06
snikkerLaserJock: "Nessun file o directory" ---> "not such file or directory"03:06
LaserJocksnikker: well, lua-curl-0.2.0/debian/tmp///-e is definately an odd directory name03:11
snikkerLaserJock: there is a way for fix it?03:12
LaserJocksnikker: is this a source package from Ubuntu repos?03:13
snikkerLaserJock: yes, it's source (.gz, .diff, .dsc) from ubuntu feisty repos, compiled under edgy03:15
LaserJocksnikker: ok, I'm building it real quick to see if I can replicate that03:18
LaserJockit really seems odd that it would have a problem like that03:19
LaserJockit's a CDBS package with no install file03:19
LaserJockit shouldn't have a problem I don't think03:19
snikkerLaserJock: ok, tell me if you can build it...03:21
LaserJockhmm, well first problem is a missing build dependency03:23
LaserJocksnikker: did you know it needed lua5.1-policy-dev ?03:25
snikkerLaserJock: yes, i've build it from source and i've instelled it03:26
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LaserJocksnikker: well, I gotta go03:39
LaserJockI haven't figured it out yet03:39
LaserJockit could be something obvious but I don't see what03:40
LaserJockmaybe ajmitch could tell03:40
snikkerLaserJock: ok, thanks03:40
snikkerajmitch: hi, can i ask to you?03:41
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snikkerajmitch: i'm unable to make a .deb package from source. i've got an error: "dh_install: command returned error code 256"03:49
rexbronhey, can anyone help with a licening problem?04:08
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rexbronif the COPYING file says that the project is GPL04:09
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somerville32rexbron, Yes...04:16
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pianoboy3333How does dpkg actually build a package? I'm just wondering... because you have the rules file, which makes the file, but then what "make install"s it, and keeps track of where the files are?07:07
crimsunsee dpkg-buildpackage.07:08
pianoboy3333does that tell m e of the internal workings? I'm talking about the actual way in the source code that dpkg-buildpackage builds a package07:09
crimsunthe internal workings of what, dpkg-buildpackage? That's a pretty silly question.07:10
pianoboy3333crimsun: how come?07:10
crimsunof course dpkg-buildpackage will tell you of the internal workings of dpkg-buildpackage.07:11
crimsunif you're itching, read the actual Perl script.07:11
crimsunsorry, shell script07:11
crimsun[meaning if you're intent, read dpkg-source, which is a Perl script] 07:17
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imbrandonello all07:49
Laser_awayimbrandon!07:49
imbrandonheya Laser_away ;)07:49
imbrandonLaserJock, hehe i've been giving archive.ubuntu.com a run for its money, i've had a 9.xx MB/s connection to it for 7+ hours now07:50
imbrandon( rsync )07:50
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imbrandoni was suprised when i looked at the graphs today07:51
imbrandonhttp://www.imbrandon.com/misc/bandwidth/current.png07:54
imbrandonw00t for fast connections, i'll be glad when i finaly get these build boxes all finished07:55
imbrandonhehe07:55
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ademanhey the system docs for packaging has a typo, is there any easy way for me to fix that?09:35
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persiaademan: Which document?09:38
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ademanpatch Systems -> Patching without a patch system09:40
ademanmight have already been fixed, it's a totally nothing typo,  "but" instead of "put"09:40
tsmithewhy do people on the forums say, "First, I suggest above all else installing Automatix so you can use files like .mp3 and other nifty programs to have, like Java and bittorrent programs.", to new users!!!09:41
ademanit's easy i guess?09:42
ademaneasyubuntu is better imho though09:42
persiaademan: Do you mean on the Wiki?09:43
tsmitheademan, but it breaks systems!09:43
ademanpersia: if you go to System->Help->System documentation   then click on packaging applications for ubuntu, then go to "Patch Systems->Patching Without a Patch System"09:44
persiaademan: I don't seem to have that option.  In any case, if you want to fix it, you can find the filename from the link address, and then submit a bug including the patch to LP.09:49
ademanwell right now i'm tryin to package code::blocks, which is a bit more important to me, but i'll get around to it hopefully09:51
vilademan, you seem to abandon eclipse-cdt :)09:58
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ademanvil: :-( yeah, my comp just can't handle it10:01
ademanplus it got dropped, to make matters way way worse10:01
vilademan, what do you mean by dropped?10:02
ademanfell off a table10:02
ademanmy 3d card is borked now, God knows what else10:03
vilhopefully, it the 3d was not fault of eclipse-cdt :)10:04
ademanhahah, i would think not10:04
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snikkeri'm unable to make a .deb package from source. i've got an error: "dh_install: command returned error code 256"12:10
Hobbseesnikker: not enough information.  please pastebin all of the buildlog12:11
snikkerHobbsee: http://pastebin.com/86397612:15
StevenKDoes the package have any .install files in debian/ ?12:16
Hobbsee#12:17
Hobbseecp: unable to make stat of `/home/snikker/misc/install-packages/amd64/deb-packages/application/beta/add_pkg/src_feisty/lua-curl-0.2.0/debian/tmp///-e': Not such file or directory12:17
snikkerHobbsee:yes, i've got: "liblua5.1-curl-dev.install" and "liblua5.1-curl0.install"12:20
Hobbseesnikker: what command did you use to build this?12:20
snikkerHobbsee:yes, i've applied the diff file, then "dpkg-source -x *.dsc" the "debuild -us -uc" in the source folder12:22
Hobbseeah right12:22
snikkerHobbsee: i've take the source from ubuntu feisty repository and i've compiled it under edgy, if this can help12:24
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snikkerHobbsee: i go to dinner... see you later12:32
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Amaranth\sh_away: congrats12:48
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Hobbseepochu: please remove that away message12:56
snikkerHobbsee: i'm come back12:58
Hobbseesnikker: yay.  dont know the answer though12:58
snikkerHobbsee: ah, ok.12:59
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StevenKsnikker: Which package and version are you trying to build on Edgy?01:00
snikkerStevenK:  i've tried to compile "lua-curl-0.2.0" (source from feisty) on edgy01:01
snikkerStevenK: my build log is here: http://pastebin.com/86397601:03
StevenKI saw that, thanks01:03
snikkerStevenK: ok  :)01:04
StevenKI've been asked to do something else, so I'll look in a sec.01:04
snikkerStevenK: ok, thanks01:04
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Hobbseenope01:07
StevenKMy machine seems to coping, so nyah. :-)01:07
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StevenKsnikker: I note lua5.1-policy-dev is a build dependancy which doesn't exist in Edgy.01:08
snikkerStevenK: yes, i've saw. i've already build and installed this package.01:09
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StevenKRight.01:10
StevenKCould I be lazy and grab that?01:10
snikkerStevenK: yes, just a moment...01:11
imbrandonmoins Hobbsee and StevenK 01:12
Hobbseehey imbrandon 01:12
Hobbseeimbrandon: feel like making gnome-applets build again?01:12
Hobbseeer, install again?01:12
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StevenKimbrandon: Long time, etc etc01:12
imbrandonHobbsee, i can give it a go in a few01:12
Hobbseeimbrandon: thanks.  http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/gnome-applets.debdiff01:13
imbrandonStevenK, heh yea , i've been on diffrent hours than i was 01:13
imbrandon;)01:13
imbrandonHobbsee, kk01:13
StevenKOh, liboobs01:13
StevenKTrust Hobbsee to touch that package01:13
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StevenKOw!01:13
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imbrandonheh01:14
snikkerStevenK: i'm tring to send it through dcc01:14
AnAnt?01:14
Hobbseesnikker: StevenK doesnt take dcc.  most people dont01:14
snikkerHobbsee: how can i send it?01:15
AnAntHello, I have a question01:15
StevenKsnikker: Are you able to put it up on the web?01:15
AnAnthttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=411001:15
HobbseeAnAnt: that's not a question.  that's a URL.01:15
StevenKAnAnt: That's a URL, not a question.01:15
AnAntwhat's meant by "unnecessary dh_make comment lines" in the comment there01:15
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HobbseeStevenK: :D01:16
snikkerStevenK: no at this moment :(01:16
StevenKsnikker: e-mail?01:16
Hobbseesnikker: hyperupload.com usually works01:16
AnAnt^-- that 's my question01:16
StevenKhyperupload.com? Don't know that one01:16
imbrandonAnAnt, it means in your debian/rules there are unnneeded comment lines 01:16
snikkerStevenK: yes01:16
snikkerStevenK: or i can try through hyperupload01:17
AnAntwhat are unneeded comment lines ? are all comment lines unneeded or what ?01:17
Adri2000AnAnt: it means you can remove in debian/rules all the lines #dh_*01:17
AnAntAdri2000: oh, ok, thanks !01:17
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StevenKsnikker: Let's listen to Hobbsee and try this hyperupload thing01:18
nuke13Hi all01:18
Hobbseeit's got a limiter on it - but i used to use it all the time before getting imbrandon's shell01:18
snikkerStevenK: ok i've do it. look here: "http://hyperupload.com/download/02d1679559/lua5.1-policy-dev_6_all.deb.html" 01:19
StevenKLength: 10,878 (11K) [application/force-download] 01:20
StevenKNice MIME type, you bozos.01:20
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HobbseeStevenK: click on the html page.  duh01:21
Hobbseeor just take otu the .html01:21
StevenKI did, it's the actual .deb downloading, but the MIME type is wrong01:22
AnAntbtw, anyone here from france ? esp. Paris ?01:22
StevenKSo my bitching is justified, so nyah.01:22
Hobbseeah01:22
StevenKsnikker: Right, trying this whole building thing again01:23
AnAntping lionel 01:24
StevenKsnikker: Reproduced, so way cool01:24
snikkerStevenK: do you have my same error?01:25
StevenKYup01:25
snikkerStevenK: there is a way for fix it?01:26
StevenKTo be honest, I'm suprised this thing built on feisty.01:26
Hobbseehah01:27
nuke13c ya laters01:29
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StevenKsnikker: However, the way to fix it to remove the '-e' from the start of the lines in the two .install files01:29
StevenKs/fix it/fix it is/01:29
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snikkerStevenK: ok, now i try :)01:30
lionelpong AnAnt01:30
lioneltoo late :)01:31
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AnAntif I am going to patch a file in the orig tarball, is it better to use dpatch system ?01:35
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lionelAnAnt: you were looking for me ?01:37
AnAntlionel: yeah01:37
persiaAnAnt: If it is a new package, yes.  If it is an existing package, follow the format in debian/patches (or patch directly if it does not exist).01:37
AnAntpersia: thanks01:37
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snikkerStevenK: i've tried to do what you said, but don't work :(01:42
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Hobbseepersia: and it depends on how big the patch is01:44
persiaHobbsee: How big?  How?01:45
Hobbseeas in, if you're making major changes, then using dpatch is probably a good idea.  for a 2x line fix or something...then you probably woudltn bother01:45
StevenKsnikker: Same error?01:47
persiaHobbsee: What do you recommend for simple fixes in new packages?  I like simple-patchsys for CDBS, but most new packages don't seem to be CDBS.01:48
Hobbseepersia: dpatch.  or manually patch it.  whichever01:49
Hobbseeit's rather personal preference01:49
persiaHobbsee: I understand.  I like debian/ changes only, but I've quite a few patches the other way :)01:51
snikkerStevenK: no another error. i've run "debuild -us -uc" in source dir without clean, i past the log, if it can help... 01:51
StevenKsnikker: Please do01:51
Hobbseepersia: yeah :) use dpatch, manual patching, or simple patchsys.  they're the common ones.  or if it's a 2 line fix or something, change the file01:52
snikkerStevenK: http://pastebin.com/86420401:54
StevenK#01:56
StevenKdpkg-source: cannot represent change to lua-curl_0.2.0-3.diff.gz: binary file contents changed01:56
StevenK#01:56
StevenKdpkg-source: cannot represent change to lua-curl_0.2.0.orig.tar.gz: binary file contents changed01:56
StevenKThat is probably the issue01:56
StevenKOh, I know exactly why it doesn't work02:00
snikkerStevenK: http://pastebin.com/8602:00
StevenKsnikker: If you sort out the above problem, add 'SHELL=/bin/bash' to debian/rules02:00
snikkerStevenK: sorry02:00
snikkerStevenK: just a moment02:00
StevenKTo be honest, the excuse this package uses for a build system is *insane*02:01
StevenKIt adds files to debian/ at *build time*02:01
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snikkerStevenK: same error... :(02:08
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\shmoins02:35
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EnverexI thought I'd ask in here as you're all a little more bright. What does the "Supported?" column on the HardwareSupport Wiki mean? (there's also a Working column so I'm wondering it's it's official related)02:43
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tsmithecrimsun, did you get my pm?03:43
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crimsuntsmithe: yes, I'm busy writing an abstract atm.03:47
tsmitheok03:47
tsmithethat's cool03:47
crimsunshould take me about 30 more minutes.03:47
tsmitheit's ok. take your time :)03:49
Adri2000Laser_away: ping (about genesis bugs)03:54
Adri2000crimsun: please open an edgy task for bug #59138 (amule)03:58
UbugtuMalone bug 59138 in wxwidgets "[SRU: EDGY]  amule crashes when I close a tab" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5913803:58
crimsunAdri2000: you mean wxwidgets2.6, btw.03:58
Adri2000yes :)03:59
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tsmithecrimsun, i'll be away for a bit, should you want me. i'll be back in about half an hour04:03
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tsmithehmm04:32
Adri2000any core-dev (crimsun? :)): can you approve the edgy task for bug #65457 please04:33
UbugtuMalone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6545704:33
crimsundone.04:34
Adri2000thanks04:34
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Adri2000crimsun: I have a question about the SRU for cinepaint... I took the version in edgy and changed the dependency to fix the bug... the problem is that it FTBFS. why? because png.c:60:48: error: png.h: No such file or directory (and we can see during the configure that he doesn't find it either). why this dependency is missing? probably because it was not needed in dapper (a B-D already depended on it maybe) and because this package has not05:06
Adri2000 been actually built in edgy (no upload or sync during edgy). If I look at the package in feisty, libpng12-dev is a B-D. So, for the SRU, I have to add this B-D, is it ok?05:06
Adri2000ouch05:07
crimsunAdri2000: if it compiles, yes.05:08
Adri2000ok :p05:08
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ScottK-laptopIf any MOTU is up for REVUing, I have http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4115 if you feel like some Python and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4127 if you feel more like Perl.  Both are looking for a second advocate.05:11
tsmithecrimsun, are you free to assist me in my task?05:13
crimsuntsmithe: I'll ping you, shouldn't be much longer.05:13
tsmitheok05:13
tsmithecool05:13
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asantoniOk guys, I have a couple of questions05:26
asantoniI'm a developer for Mixxx, and we're trying to push out a new release really soon. We'd like to try to get the new version in Ubuntu.05:27
asantoniThe old version is already packaged in Debian and Ubuntu... What's the best course of action for getting the package updated? (hopefully before the UVF)05:27
crimsunrelease it.05:27
crimsunthen file a wishlist bug against the mixxx source package using Launchpad.05:28
asantoniok05:28
asantoniwhat's the usual timeline for that sort of thing?05:28
crimsundepends who does the lifting.05:28
asantonihmmm05:29
asantonishould I contact the maintainer for the package?05:29
crimsunif you guys can verify that an updated source package builds, upgrades/installs successfully, then it can be extremely fast, a matter of hours.05:29
crimsunthe maintainer is "MOTU", or "us".05:29
asantonihmmm, cool05:29
crimsunor if you'd like to get it into Debian first, you could try that route, but Etch freeze is in effect.05:30
asantoniok, so do I have to update the source package, then upload to REVU or sometihng?05:30
asantoni(ie. update the source package myself?)05:30
crimsunthat would be one approach.05:30
asantonihmmm, ok, thanks05:31
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muzzolwarning: source directory `./cinelerra-cv_2.1.0+svn20070109' is not <sourcepackage>-<upstreamversion> `cinelerra-cv-2.1.0+svn20070109'05:45
muzzolanyone?05:45
crimsunwhy not cinelerra-cv_2.1.0.svn20070109 ?05:45
crimsun(for the source package)05:46
sladenhas that had the MPEG2 stuff removed?05:46
sladenI was having problems getting it to build 6 months ago with the MPEG2 code05:47
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sladen(Ogg only)05:47
gesermuzzol: shouldn't the _ between cv and 2 be a - ? ( _ is correct for the orig.tar.gz)05:47
muzzolnot sure05:49
muzzolthis naming is a little bit confusing05:49
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crimsunthe directory is probably better named cinelerra-cv-2.1.0+svn20070109 or cinelerra-cv-2.1.0.svn2007010905:52
muzzolthe directory containing debian subdir?05:57
muzzolcrimsun05:57
crimsunyes05:57
muzzolok, thanks05:58
muzzolstill a bit confused05:58
muzzol:D05:58
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Adri2000motu-sru needed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/cinepaint/+bug/6545706:03
UbugtuMalone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[SRU]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Medium,In progress]  06:03
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muzzoldpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}06:17
muzzolany hints?06:17
siretarttsmithe: you tried to contact me on irc lateley?06:19
tsmitheah yes06:19
siretartI do still irc :)06:19
tsmithei was wondering about bzr and debs...06:19
siretartit's fun :)06:19
tsmithefollowing your bzr-debuild post06:19
tsmithei think i'll check it out06:19
siretartdevelopment is still in flow, james_w asked me about missing features we ubuntu devs could need in there06:20
tsmithei think crimsun and Laser_away answered my questions06:20
tsmithecool06:20
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siretartjust try it out and write/blog about stuff that you like or dislike06:26
tsmitheyeah06:27
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crimsuntsmithe: completed, going to grab coffee, back in 20 mins.06:29
tsmitheokey06:29
tsmithecool06:29
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slomo_siretart: ping? :)06:37
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siretartslomo_: pong!06:38
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slomo_siretart: there's a new faac release... unfortunately same soname but very useless ABI changes (5 constants were increased by one)... would you revert that single change (that was done for no reason), Breaks the new lib on the very few users of the lib or use a custom soname?06:40
siretartslomo_: how does upstream think about that?06:40
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slomo_siretart: you know the story about faad2 with the ugly license change and no response upstream... they're the same people ;)06:41
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siretartomg :/06:42
siretartslomo_: I think we'd have least pain if we go with the reverted changes, and notifying upstream about that fact06:43
siretartslomo_: I assume you maintain faac/faad  in debian as well, right?06:43
slomo_siretart: no, debian has only faad and there it has even greater problems ;) 06:43
siretartfun :/06:44
slomo_really bad that those are the only "free" implementations of a aac encoder and decoder...06:44
slomo_i would even prefer somethnig by the ffmpeg people06:45
siretartis there evidence about patent enforcement for faac/faad? I think I remember something, but I'm not sure06:45
siretartI've noticed x264 in the debian NEW queue06:45
slomo_heh, i doubt this will go through06:46
slomo_and for aac... i heard rumours06:46
siretarthm. ffmpeg and mplayer got through NEW at last, so why not x264 as well?06:48
siretartjust curious, what's the difference between faac and faad?06:48
slomo_anyway, aac plays in the same league as h264 06:48
slomo_well, we had to drop all encoders from gst-ffmpeg to make the ftpmasters happy06:48
slomo_and x264 is only an encoder for a format that is patented06:49
siretartmom, phon06:50
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siretarthm, I see06:57
siretartafter rethinking about it, you're probably right, and ftp-master will reject both aac and x264. which is sad :(06:58
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siretarthm. there are currently 5 packages using faac: avidemux, gst-plugins-bad-multiverse0.10, gst-plugins-multiverse0.8, mplayer and mythplugins07:00
siretartslomo_: does this mean that ffmpeg does not have any means to play aac material?07:00
slomo_siretart: yep... exactly that... because ffmpeg is in universe while faac is in multiverse07:01
slomo_siretart: and it has no own decoder for it07:01
siretartffmpeg is as good as in main now07:01
slomo_hm, and linking newer faad which ffmpeg violates the gpl so maybe someone of the ffmpeg team wants to do it07:01
slomo_oh?07:01
siretartthere is an inclusion request for it pending, and xine ships the internal ffmpeg copy now in main07:02
slomo_do you have a list of everything in the ffmpeg versions?07:02
siretartsorry?07:04
slomo_a list of encoder and decoders for which formats :)07:05
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siretartpuh, I don't think so, no07:05
slomo_hm :/ i have a feeling that we might get multiverse much smaller if we can get ffmpeg even in main ;)07:06
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muzzolhow can add universe on pbuilder?07:13
muzzolConsidering  libavcodec-dev07:13
muzzol   -> Trying libavcodec-dev07:13
muzzol       -> Cannot install libavcodec-dev; apt errors follow:07:13
muzzolReading package lists... Done07:13
muzzolBuilding dependency tree       07:13
muzzolReading state information... Done07:13
muzzolE: Couldn't find package libavcodec-dev07:13
muzzolW: Unable to locate package libavcodec-dev07:13
muzzolE: Could not satisfy build-dependency.07:13
muzzolE: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed.07:13
muzzol:(07:13
enychrrrm07:13
jdongmuzzol: yeah sure, add it via --othermirror or login --save-after-login and edit sources.list07:15
muzzoli've added to OTHERMIRROR variable with no success07:16
fernandomuzzol: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto07:16
muzzolthanks!07:16
gesermuzzol: sudo pbuilder update --override-config --othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse"07:17
muzzolok, what i've missed is --override-config07:17
muzzolthanks07:18
crimsuntsmithe: ping?07:19
crimsuntsmithe: sorry, ping, ready for git?07:19
tsmithehi hi07:20
tsmithepm?07:20
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crimsunsure07:21
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gnomefreakcrimsun: is ther eany way we can upgrade the backported flashplugin-nonfree package to 9.0 r31. right now from what i can tell on p.u.c dapper and edgy backports have 9.0 d78. this is to fix bug 7938407:30
UbugtuMalone bug 79384 in flashplugin-nonfree "chinese firefox crash with flash 9 after a single page" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7938407:30
crimsungnomefreak: see jdong :-)07:30
gnomefreakty07:30
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jdonggnomefreak: I have approved the backport on Edgy07:33
jdonggnomefreak: if someone (crimsun?) can testify that it works on Dapper I will approve that too07:33
gnomefreakok skip dapper?07:33
gnomefreakok i just subcribed you to the bug ill add my comments there for you. if i get around to it ill test it on dapper sometime this week07:34
jdonggnomefreak: definitely for edgy, feel free to ping cjwatson or an archive admin to let the backport through07:34
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jdonghttps://launchpad.net/edgy-backports/+bug/8064207:34
UbugtuMalone bug 80642 in edgy-backports "please backport  flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31" [Undecided,In progress]  07:35
gnomefreakack07:35
jdonggnomefreak: ^^ use that as a reference for talking to archive admins07:35
gnomefreakk07:35
gnomefreakso its just waiting for a push?07:35
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muzzoldpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}07:55
muzzolanyone?07:55
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ScottK-laptopmuzzol: Dunno about shlibs, but with ${python:Depends} the same error occurs and it can be safely ignored.07:58
ScottK-laptopAFAIK..07:58
AstralJavaErr... how do I get the pbuilder chroot install a local .deb file as build-dependency? I can't make it notice this anyhow.07:59
muzzolok07:59
muzzolthanks ScottK-laptop 07:59
AstralJavaI've tried dbuilderrc to include a HOOKDIR, to no avail. Straight duild-depends in control file won't go either.08:00
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bluefoxicyIf I want a universe package upgraded or something is it correct to file a bug?08:15
bluefoxicy(memprof and alleyoop... alleyoop 0.9.0 doesn't work with our version of valgrind, and memprof 0.6 just finally came out)08:15
Adri2000yes08:16
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elliotjhugHi all, I am just packaging something for Ubuntu Studio, but one of the dependencies is neither in Ubuntu and a search on the internet reveals very little. Looking for libdivxencore0.08:20
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crimsun!memprof08:21
ubotumemprof: Memory profiler and leak detector. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.1-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 337 kB, installed size 1308 kB (Only available for i386)08:21
crimsun!memprof feisty08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about memprof feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
crimsunbluefoxicy: did you check the removal criteria for memprof?08:24
crimsunbug 32460708:24
crimsundebian 32460708:24
UbugtuDebian bug 324607 in wnpp "O: memprof -- Memory profiler and leak detector" [Normal,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/32460708:24
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crimsuni.e., does 0.6.0 address the RC bugs?08:25
ScottKGood afternoon bddebian.08:25
bddebianHeya ScottK08:25
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bddebian:-)08:26
crimsunoh good, no revu work for me08:26
bddebiancrimsun: The libticonv folks are argueing with me about the dir naming :)08:26
crimsunhaw08:27
ScottKcrimsun: Actually I need a second REVU if you're available?08:27
bluefoxicycrimsun:  huh?08:28
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crimsunbluefoxicy: memprof does not exist in 7.04 because it was removed in March '06 from Debian unstable (and thus testing)08:29
bluefoxicycrimsun: 0.6 was just released in 200608:29
crimsunright, but is the separate maintenance burden justified?08:29
bluefoxicyI don't know if it's "quite dead" still, it may have just woke up to mention that it works still08:29
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bluefoxicyI don't know.08:29
crimsun...well if you're so nonchalant about it, how do you expect fellow busy volunteers to help maintain it?08:30
bluefoxicythe past 4 years have been memprof 0.5.1, which didn't work08:30
bluefoxicy"The main attraction of 0.6 is that memprof now works again,"  -- http://www.gnome.org/projects/memprof/08:31
bluefoxicycrimsun:  I hadn't noticed it was removed, just that it hadn't been updated.08:31
Adri2000\sh_away: are you going to fix the FTBFS of xulrunner on ia64?08:31
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ScottKbluefoxicy: Perhaps you should package 0.6 and upload it?08:32
bluefoxicyalso I am not twisting anyone's arm :P08:32
bluefoxicyscottK:  perhaps, perhaps.  I don't deal with Debian though, so it'd be 0.6-0ubuntu1 or something.08:32
ScottKSounds about right.08:33
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bddebianOMG this tilibs crap is driving me nuts08:52
ScottKbddebian: Would you mind archiving http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4088 - It's a bug fix that I never should have uploaded to REVU?08:54
bddebianScottK: Done08:56
ScottK-laptopThanks.08:57
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ScottK-laptopbddebian: Any chance you'd have second thoughts and advocate for http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4114 ...?  I think it's a good package (not that my opinion counts).08:59
bddebianScottK-laptop: What do you mean by second thoughts?09:00
ScottK-laptopYou reviewed, but didn't advocate, so maybe you change you mind and advocate....09:01
ScottK-laptopyou/your09:01
bddebianScottK-laptop: Did you fix that warning? :-)09:01
ScottK-laptopNo, I understood it to be a common one that one needn't worry about.  The predecessor packages that have been uploaded have the same warning.09:02
ScottK-laptopIf I really need to fix it, I will, of course.09:03
bddebianWell it's not really a biggie for me but I never know :-(09:03
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bddebiancrimsun: You have a minute?09:16
crimsunslomo_: has bug 80626 been reported upstream?09:16
UbugtuMalone bug 80626 in gstreamer0.10 "Musepack stopped working (The stream is of a different type...)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8062609:16
slomo_crimsun: it's already fixed upstream09:16
slomo_crimsun: see my latest comment there ;)09:16
crimsunah, was it a playbin issue?09:16
slomo_no09:16
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slomo_basetransform and pad issue09:16
crimsunoh bah, I loaded the page two minutes before you commented09:17
crimsun:-)09:17
slomo_heh09:17
slomo_i'll let seb decide, i don't have the time to make a new cvs snapshot now or get the n+1 patches to get it right ;) reverting that single change would be fine though... 09:17
crimsunok, left until seb chimes in, then :)09:18
crimsunthanks09:19
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ScottK-laptopbddebian: The solution appears to be removing the shebang.  New upload shortly.09:41
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bddebianWell I'm hosed.  tilp2 depends on libticables2 which is currently libticables3-3.9.6 in the archives because of sonames but what is supposed to be the "newer" version based on libticables2 is version 1.0.3. How the hell am I gonna fix that?10:04
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ScottKbddebian: Dunno, but the package is uploaded again with the warning fixed...10:06
ScottKhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=415810:06
ScottKbddebian: IIRC persia was discussing a similar versioning problem yesterday.  Don't recall what the solution was.10:07
geserbddebian: are libticables3 and libticables2 the same source package?10:10
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bddebiangeser: No, supposedly the libticables2 stuff is "new".  What is currently libticables3 is supposed to be from the "libticables" branch.  But they seem to struggle with soname issues.  I'm having another problem with libticonv.10:12
gesercan't you introduce a new source package for libticables2?10:13
bddebiangeser: Yes but there was already a libticables2 package, plus libticables2 < libticables3 even though the code is "newer"10:20
geserpackages.ubuntu.com know no libticables2 only 310:22
bddebianApt-cache dump shows a libticables210:22
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geserlibticables3 conflicts libticables210:25
geserlibticables2 seems to be really old10:26
gesereven Debian doesn't know libticables210:26
bddebianAye because it was supposed to be based on the "libticables" source..  There never should have been libticables2 and 310:27
geserI'd say it's safe to use libticables210:27
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geseryou dont have a problem with 2 < 3 as it's in the package name10:28
bddebianWell the version is much lower also10:28
bddebian 3.9.6 -> 1.0.310:28
geserno problem as long as you don't build it from the libticables3 source package10:29
geserand even then exists a solution: add a epoch10:30
geserit's for such cases10:30
bddebianstupid damn upstream10:31
geserthe version is only compared for the same source (or binary) packages10:33
geserdpkg has no problems if the version of libticables2 is lower than the version of libticables3 as they are different packages10:35
bddebianI realize all of this, it just adds mass confusion in my mind10:36
bddebianSay I'm packaging some new package that needs libticables.  I look and say "hey" libticables3 must be newer / better than libticables210:37
geserthat's the user interpretation but must meet the reality10:38
gesersee e.g. libgoffice-1 -> libgoffice-010:38
bddebianWell I still think it's just stupid :-)10:39
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muzzolhi10:53
muzzoli get lots of "warning: no utmp entry available and..."10:54
muzzolhow can i get rid of?10:54
geserignore them10:54
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geserlupine_85: ask, someone will hopefully answer them :)11:10
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lupine_85:) ok. I've got a debian/ that uses cdbs & debhelper to build multiple packages; I want to add a postinst to just one of those packages11:18
lupine_85I tried calling the postinst file debian/<package name>.postinst but that didn't work...11:19
lupine_85and my google-fu is low :(11:19
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rexbronbddebian: would you have time to review murrine, fixed the licening issues upstream, and soma again? upid 4149 and 415011:44
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muzzolstrange problem here11:56
muzzoli'm trying to compile cinelerra package11:56
muzzolin control i have: Package: cinelerra11:56
muzzolif i change to: Package: cinelerra-cv11:56
muzzolthe final deb is just a 17k file11:57
muzzolcontaining some doc files11:57
muzzolinstead of 16M package with binaries11:57
muzzolany hints11:57
muzzol?11:58
jdongcrimsun: thanks for fixing ffmpeg ftbfs :)11:58
crimsunnp11:58
jdongcrimsun: ya got any idea why avidemux half-ftbfs'ed?11:58
jdonghttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avidemux/1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu211:58
jdongI'm utterly confused :)11:59
crimsunhaven't looked11:59
crimsunfighting 7.04's kubuntu-desktop11:59
jdongit built fine on 2 of 5 archs, the others failing because they couldn't touch some translation file before build11:59
jdongand I can't reproduce any of the error messages11:59
jdongI think it's either my sanity or the buildd's :D11:59
Adri2000crimsun: you can upload cinepaint :)12:05
crimsunsorry, I need to smack myself first12:08
Adri2000why?12:10

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