[12:01] <Godsey> looks like I've got kernel rpm down to 30 minutes
[12:01] <Seveas> !ati | gabaryah
[12:01] <ubotu> gabaryah: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:01] <gabaryah> aren't XGL my drivers
[12:01] <mycroes> Seveas: more features than ubuntu's gnome
[12:01] <FooAtari> gab you can install ati drivers using EasyUbuntu
[12:01] <Seveas> gabaryah, hell no
[12:01] <gabaryah> lol
[12:01] <Godsey> wrong channel on my last msg
[12:01] <mycroes> Seveas: well, more apps availible :P
[12:01] <gabaryah> lmao
[12:01] <gu014> !twinview
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Seveas> mycroes, xgl needs those drivers to work :)
[12:02] <Seveas> mycroes, ;)
[12:02] <Seveas> but what does it run as desktop?
[12:02] <gu014> whats the best way to get dual moniotr support using nvidia under ubuntu?
[12:02] <mycroes> Seveas: it's a laptop
[12:02] <gu014> monitor*
[12:02] <gabaryah> could i use drivers on ati website
[12:02] <mycroes> Seveas: it doesn't run anything yet
[12:02] <gabaryah> i know how to install those
[12:02] <mycroes> Seveas: except the gentoo livecd and gentoo minimal install cd
[12:02] <Seveas> mycroes, I meant the gentoo livecd, which desktop does it use?
[12:03] <mycroes> Seveas: gnome
[12:03] <FooAtari> EasyUbuntu is the easiest way to do it probably gab
[12:03] <mycroes> Seveas: 2.12 though
[12:03] <Seveas> ancient :)
[12:03] <trilliji> !nvidia beta
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia beta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <FooAtari> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:03] <kitche> n2diy: I m more of a person that likes ot play with stuff I still want to pick up a sed book
[12:03] <mycroes> Seveas: but I'm sure there's something wrong with the livecd...
[12:04] <mycroes> Seveas: I thought there were problems with the first 6.10 release livecd?
[12:04] <Seveas> mycroes, well the ubuntu livecd is not the smallest/fastest
[12:04] <Seveas> it needs quite a bit of memory
[12:04] <nixnoob> how do u run oss mixer from cline
[12:04] <nixnoob> ?
[12:04] <n2diy> kitche: I like playing with stuff too, with the exception of my encounter with RH 5.2, six or seven years ago.
[12:04] <mycroes> Seveas: there's a difference between fast and at complete stop
[12:04] <Seveas> true that :)
[12:04] <mycroes> Seveas: memory should do
[12:05] <Judicata> anyone en epic/ircii guru?
[12:05] <Judicata> en = an.
[12:05] <Seveas> !anyone | Judicata
[12:05] <ubotu> Judicata: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:05] <mycroes> Seveas: it's really horrible, but I have nfc what's causing it
[12:05] <nixnoob> what is the command to run ossmixer from commad line?
[12:05] <Seveas> mycroes, nfc?
[12:05] <mycroes> Seveas: I don't see anything strange in dmesg or anything
[12:05] <Seveas> !repeat | nixnoob
[12:05] <ubotu> nixnoob: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:05] <mycroes> Seveas: no fucking clue
[12:05] <nomego> are there any additional visualization plugins for gstreamer other than the default "goom" ?
[12:05] <Seveas> mycroes, heh :)
[12:05] <kitche> nixnoob: you can't try alsamixer instead since I believe that ubuntu uses Aoss
[12:05] <Seveas> mycroes, where does it stop?
[12:06] <mycroes> Seveas: well it kinda boots up all the way
[12:06] <pppoe_dude> hi... my friend's computer is randomly freezing
[12:06] <mycroes> Seveas: but sloooooooooooooow
[12:06] <nixnoob> yea im using alsamixer now but im having a problem
[12:06] <pppoe_dude> any ideas? it freezes mostly when a program is started,
[12:06] <mycroes> Seveas: I can't get the installer started though...
[12:06] <pppoe_dude> like firefox, etc
[12:06] <un00> have 1 question how to make Flash 9 or 7 to run in Ubuntu 6.10 x86_64
[12:06] <Seveas> mycroes, how much mem do you have?
[12:06] <nixnoob> im trying to get ventrilo working through wine and all is well but there is alot of noise in the mic
[12:06] <Seveas> un00, not.
[12:06] <pppoe_dude> they are on breezy, but we booted into edgy liveCD and it does the same
[12:06] <webmaren> how do I enable unstable .debs in edgy
[12:06] <mycroes> Seveas: 192 or 192 + 128
[12:07] <Seveas> mycroes, way too little
[12:07] <mycroes> Seveas: it doesn't always detect the second module
[12:07] <nixnoob> thats why im trying to setup oss
[12:07] <Seveas> you need at least 512
[12:07] <un00> Seveas,  can't be done ?
[12:07] <Seveas> mycroes, definitely if you want to run uniquity
[12:07] <n2diy> pppoe_dude: how much ram does the system have?
[12:07] <Seveas> ubiquity*
[12:07] <pppoe_dude> it just started doing that, was working fine for 5 months or so
[12:07] <mycroes> Seveas: omg, I run X on my p120 with 24 mb ram, and you're saying ubuntu will need at least 192 M to boot properly within 30 minuts?
[12:07] <un00> sad =[
[12:07] <pppoe_dude> n2diy, 256
[12:08] <mycroes> Seveas: ubiquity?
[12:08] <Seveas> mycroes, unfortunately yes
[12:08] <n2diy> pppoe_dude: ah, ok, 256 is ok.
[12:08] <Seveas> mycroes, ubiquity == the gui installer
[12:08] <kitche> nixnoob: it's probably due to wine you might have to configure wine the right way for ventrillo to play nice
[12:08] <stapolo> IS there a C programming channel in this server?
[12:08] <Seveas> mycroes, btw, that's only true for the live cd -- not the installed system
[12:08] <pppoe_dude> any ideas on how i can disable the sound card without BIOS?
[12:08] <Jowi> mycroes, never had any luck with live-cd on hardware like that. but server installation + minimal x works just fine :)
[12:08] <Seveas> stapolo, ##C
[12:08] <pppoe_dude> might be some hardware issue
[12:08] <mycroes> Seveas: oh ic... well I doubt the amount of memory is the problem, if it is then I can add swap and it should be fixed
[12:08] <Jowi> mycroes, (exluding dsl and knoppix)
[12:09] <Seveas> mycroes, i'd go for the alternate cd and use a text installer
[12:09] <pppoe_dude> also, can i check memory from within ubuntu without rebooting?
[12:09] <n2diy> pppoe_dude: not unless there is a jumper for it on the mom board?
[12:09] <mycroes> ok..
[12:09] <mycroes> well thx for the help on that then I guess...
[12:09] <pppoe_dude> something like memtest
[12:09] <mycroes> then I have another nice question...
[12:09] <nixnoob> kitche: i have the newest version of wine and followed the winehq directions exactly
[12:09] <mycroes> s3 savage IX supported? :
[12:09] <sleepy723> Anyone know where I can get the latest version of Kiba Dock?
[12:09] <nixnoob> kitche do u have any idea what i would have to do?
[12:09] <n2diy> pppoe_dude: did you run memtest?
[12:10] <mwb> hi
[12:10] <pppoe_dude> n2diy, no i can't use keyboard when rebooting
[12:10] <pppoe_dude> n2diy, so i cant select memtest
[12:10] <Seveas> mycroes, do you know if other distros support it?
[12:10] <mycroes> Seveas: nope
[12:10] <webmaren> is there a way to get bleeding-edge release packages in synaptic
[12:10] <mycroes> Seveas: just got that laptop yesterday :P
[12:10] <Seveas> hehe :)
[12:10] <mycroes> Seveas: though my quick google seems to think xorg 3.3 was supporting it
[12:10] <n2diy> pppoe_dude: can you substitute the keyboard with another one?
[12:10] <pppoe_dude> n2diy, i would do that if i can
[12:11] <Seveas> there never was xorg 3.3 ;)
[12:11] <dope> i'm trying to share a card reader via samba on a ubuntu box so i can mess with it on my windows box
[12:11] <pppoe_dude> but i cant
[12:11] <dope> with no luck
[12:11] <kitche> nixnoob: look at winecfg
[12:11] <fnord123> ah, thanks jrib. xserver-org-dev got the m4 file
[12:11] <Seveas> !xserver-xorg-video-s3
[12:11] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-s3: X.Org X server -- legacy S3 display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.4.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:11] <Seveas> should work :)
[12:12] <n2diy> pppoe_dude: Not being able to use the keyboard at boot is a problem, and that could be the problem.
[12:12] <pppoe_dude> n2diy, its a USB keyboard
[12:12] <webmaren> !unstable
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unstable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <pppoe_dude> wireless
[12:12] <dope> where are all the samba shares located in ubuntu
[12:12] <pppoe_dude> i don't have access to it, it for a friend
[12:12] <kitche> dope: whereever you mount them
[12:12] <Seveas> dope, on a samba server :)
[12:12] <dope> is there a folder they default to?
[12:13] <dope> like a symlink in a folder
[12:13] <kmasta> what does it mean in bittorrent if a port is blacklisted
[12:13] <Seveas> dope, no
[12:13] <painkiler> I don't know, I started to install beryl through this guide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 . I rebooted my machine, and x crashed
[12:13] <painkiler> I don't get it
[12:13] <n2diy> pppoe_dude: well, you know he has a problem with the keyboard, that needs to fixed before you can troubleshoot anything else.
[12:13] <dope> cause i click on the computer from my network places and it asks for a username/pass
[12:13] <painkiler> bloddy nvidia
[12:13] <nixnoob> kitche ty do u kno if i have to restart for changes to take eeffect
[12:13] <Seveas> painkiler, no, bloody stupid guides :)
[12:14] <Seveas> painkiler, the only good beryl guides are on beryl-project.org
[12:14] <painkiler> ok
[12:14] <kitche> dope: that's because samba needs a username/password unless you have it set up to not have one
[12:14] <kitche> nixnoob: just wine that's it
[12:14] <dope> crap, how do i fix that
[12:15] <kmasta> guys what does it mean when a port is blacklisted?
[12:16] <ianMAC> heellooo
[12:17] <dope> anyway to not have the samba share have a username/pass
[12:17] <MrRio> hey
[12:17] <gabaryah> i have a error while installing ati drivers
[12:18] <gabaryah> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:18] <gabaryah>  fglrx-control_8.33.6-1_i386.deb
[12:19] <iuui> hi, anyone around/
[12:19] <iuui> ?
[12:19] <gabaryah> cab someone please look & see what went wrong http://pastebin.ca/323015
[12:19] <Seveas> !anyone | iuui
[12:19] <ubotu> iuui: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:20] <iuui> ubotu: thank you for those words of wisdom
[12:20] <Judicata> Seveas: in fairness, gab did ask a question with that "someone" :)
[12:20] <iuui> not sure actuallly if i want to just spit that question out.
[12:20] <Seveas> Judicata, gab did ;)
[12:20] <iuui> obotu - bot huh?
[12:20] <Judicata> Seveas: scratch that.
[12:20] <iuui> i think i'm getting port scanned by the server (irc) i conenct to for this very forum.
[12:20] <iuui> what to do?
[12:20] <Seveas> iuui, that's correct
[12:21] <temujoe> I'm on an english distribution of ubuntu, and want to use japanese text in vi.. the fonts are already installed.. but I can't view japanese text in a file..
[12:21] <Seveas> iuui, it scans for open proxies to detect malicious bots
[12:21] <iuui> of course, nobody can port scan from a server, unless they have access to it.
[12:21] <temujoe> any tips?
[12:21] <iuui> seveas: thank - but why scan hours after i've signed off and closed the application?
[12:21] <Seveas> iuui, it's an automated scan, initiated when you connected
[12:22] <Seveas> that's not supposed to happen
[12:22] <iuui> seveas: plus, it's stealthy like....thinking nmap -T sneaky
[12:22] <gabaryah> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel', which is also in package xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:22] <Judicata> that's disconcerting.
[12:22] <Seveas> iuui, can you maybe capture the logs and send them to staff@freenode.net?
[12:22] <The_Jack_of_Club> how do i get ubuntu not to freeze on a g5 imac?
[12:22] <gabaryah> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel', which is also in package xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:22] <dope> anyway to not have the samba share have a username/pass
[12:22] <iuui> seveas: sure, are you on that staff?
[12:22] <The_Jack_of_Club> !g5
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <Seveas> iuui, no, but they do take their job rather serious
[12:23] <The_Jack_of_Club> !mac
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <The_Jack_of_Club> hmm
[12:23] <iuui> seveas: good suggestion, it's a packet hear and there if you know wha ti mean,
[12:23] <Seveas> iuui, still shouldn't happen :)
[12:23] <gabaryah> cab someone please look & see what went wrong http://pastebin.ca/323015
[12:23] <Seveas> iuui, can I pm you?
[12:23] <iuui> seveas ;) gothya . so far i've just done tcpdump | grep [string] 
[12:23] <The_Jack_of_Club> it just kinda freezes on the live disk after starting xserver
[12:24] <iuui> seveas: sure, give it a shot...not sure how to ansswer though.
[12:24] <iuui> wait - pm = ?
[12:24] <idea> hello again folks
[12:24] <painkiler> I think it was the nvidia drivers
[12:24] <ubuntu> what
[12:24] <idea> got a couple of minor issues here.. major ones are now fixed.
[12:24] <painkiler> scroll up a bit, you will see my problem
[12:25] <goodgerster> good evening, ubuntu-ers
[12:25] <temujoe> howdy
[12:25] <goodgerster> *pings bell* anyone not being served?
[12:25] <idea> 1) when i boot into gnome, i'm seeing the session manager and a number of file browsers every time.. any way to stop these?
[12:25] <painkiler> yep, it is the drivers
[12:25] <goodgerster> idea, do yoy mean as part of the splash screen?
[12:25] <The_Jack_of_Club> grrrrrrrr make it work
[12:26] <painkiler> how do I uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[12:26] <jorik> sshd runs on what standard port ?
[12:26] <idea> goodgerster: no. splash is disabled.
[12:26] <Seveas> jorik, 22
[12:26] <jorik> cool thx
[12:26] <goodgerster> painkiler: reverse the steps you followed to install it
[12:26] <painkiler> ok
[12:26] <Judicata> idea: System - Preferences - Sessions and uncheck automatically save?
[12:26] <goodgerster> idea: hmm, they're being launched when you boot?
[12:26] <ant> so..
[12:27] <idea> judicata: autmatically save *off*
[12:27] <Judicata> idea: do you have any sessions saved on that screen, or is the box empty?
[12:27] <goodgerster> idea: go to sessions and modify your startup programs appropriately
[12:27] <Seveas> idea, then remove them from the existing session ;)
[12:27] <idea> goodgerster: yes. normally the session manager and *1* file browser, though last boot it was 4 file browsers.
[12:28] <goodgerster> I presume you mean four nautlius windows as opposed to four different file managers...
[12:28] <idea> goodgerster: indeed.
[12:29] <idea> i have a default session profile.. ok to nuke that?
[12:29] <goodgerster> hmm, sessions control is the way to go. "fiddle with it until it works" is usually a good idea
[12:29] <idea> goodgerster: ok. thanks. i'll have a fiddle and get back if it's not working.
[12:29] <goodgerster> *salutes*
[12:29] <goodgerster> *pings bell* next!
[12:30] <painkiler> crap
[12:30] <idea> i got another question..
[12:30] <goodgerster> painkiler: trouble?
[12:30] <painkiler> now my whole xserver is screwed
[12:30] <goodgerster> idea: go on
[12:30] <idea> i installed the ntfs automount script wotsit, and now i want to remove automount for ntfs..
[12:30] <goodgerster> painkiler: well, change the "nvidia" bit to "nv" in the "monitor" bit
[12:31] <painkiler> where is a good repo to get the nvidia-glx drivers?
[12:31] <goodgerster> idea: did you do anything involving upstart or init?
[12:31] <goodgerster> painkiler: *sigh*
[12:31] <painkiler> what?
[12:32] <goodgerster> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[12:32] <idea> goodgerster: i followed the script the bot recommended in here. so i think no.
[12:32] <idea> !ntfs
[12:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:32] <goodgerster> *probes*
[12:33] <painkiler> goodgerster: that is the guide that screwed the xserver in the firstplace
[12:33] <Hyarion2> hmm, anyone happen to have a Linksys WMP54G wireless adapter?
[12:34] <goodgerster> painkiler: then you did something wrong, as it works flawlessly for me. stupid mistakes include not using edgy, not having multiverse and universe enabled, not actually having a recent nvidia card, typos, and ignoring bits of the guide
[12:34] <painkiler> all I want is x working agian
[12:34] <goodgerster> painkiler, MSN me... goodgerster@gmail.com
[12:35] <painkiler> don't use msn
[12:35] <idea> goodgerster: i'll be back in a sec. just relogging into to test sessions.
[12:35] <goodgerster> idea: the guide doesn't help a ton
[12:35] <goodgerster> painkiler: well..
[12:35] <painkiler> gtalk?
[12:35] <painkiler> aim?
[12:35] <painkiler> jabber?
[12:35] <Seveas> painkiler, goodgerster: followinf forum guides is always a bad idea when there is proper documentation
[12:36] <goodgerster> I use yahoo and jabber. bengoodger for yahoo, goodgerster@gmail.com for jabber. google talk is jabber, I can't understand how people can't understant that
[12:36] <painkiler> wait, I think i got x working again
[12:36] <painkiler> yep
[12:36] <goodgerster> Seveas: well, show me some proper doco that works better than that guide (given that the guide works flawlessly) and I'll follow that; until then, I will continue using it
[12:36] <kitche> goodgerster: because most don't know what jabber is
[12:36] <Seveas> !nvidia
[12:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:36] <painkiler> a nice dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did the trick
[12:36] <idea> ok. sessions fixed.
[12:37] <Seveas> !worksforme | goodgerster
[12:37] <ubotu> goodgerster: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:37] <idea> next up, un automatically mounting ntfs.
[12:37] <Seveas> !ntfs | idea
[12:37] <ubotu> idea: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:37] <idea> seveas: yes. that's exactly what i want to reverse ;)
[12:37] <goodgerster> Seveas: can you not be arsed to construct a proper argument against using the community?
[12:38] <Seveas> idea, remove all ntfs/fat32 drives from /etc/fstab then
[12:38] <Seveas> goodgerster, I pointed to the good documentation...
[12:38] <goodgerster> well, let's have a look
[12:38] <HLM> !jabber
[12:38] <ubotu> jabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, like MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org
[12:38] <idea> seveas: ok. thanks.. let's see..
[12:39] <Seveas> err... who f*d up that factoid
[12:39] <Seveas> !jabber =~ s/like/unlike/
[12:39] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[12:39] <dope> how does fedora compare to ubuntu?
[12:39] <Seveas> dope, like apples to pears
[12:39] <kitche> msn and aim isn't open source
[12:39] <Seveas> both are fruit, but they taste different
[12:39] <dope> which one is the pear cause i like pears more
[12:39] <Seveas> fedora would be a sour lemon
[12:40] <goodgerster> dope, fedora's a beta test for a lucrative distro; ubuntu is a non-lucrative distro
[12:40] <Seveas> and ubuntu a sweet strawberry with whipped cream
[12:40] <goodgerster> Seveas: all that's different is that the HOWTO uses a version of the driver that works with compositing
[12:40] <dope> you think if more games are made for linux it would be more popular?
[12:40] <Seveas> dope, yes. And the reverse is true as well
[12:41] <goodgerster> dope: ubuntu's software is "stuff outside the 20,000 provided packages is unlikely to work"; while fedora's is "stuff outside the 3,000 provided packages is required for functionality"
[12:41] <Seveas> goodgerster, then this forum guide is different from the usual ones. Regularly forum guides are rather bad
[12:41] <Hyarion2> hm, I'm having issues with my wireless adapter, would installing Ubuntu opposed to running it off the CD help at all?
[12:41] <dope> i'm new to linux and all that but is there a way to have compiled code for linux so people can't steal the source?
[12:41] <goodgerster> dope: yes, of course...
[12:41] <dope> kewkew
[12:41] <dope> linux needs better driver support
[12:41] <goodgerster> Seveas: I presume that a bad forum guide would not be second on my google for "edgy nvidia"
[12:41] <Judicata> dope: you break my heart.
[12:41] <dope> whywhy?
[12:42] <Seveas> goodgerster, sometimes it happens :)
[12:42] <goodgerster> dope: that is a rather stupid statement. linux supports more hardware out-of-box than any other OS
[12:42] <nfp|kelnoky> driver support is heavily overrated^^
[12:42] <dope> but some of the drivers aren't that good
[12:42] <Judicata> dope: the concept of "stealing source" is just contrary to Free "Open Source" software.
[12:42] <nfp|kelnoky> which ones?
[12:42] <dope> i can't get WPA2 to work on my laptop
[12:42] <Seveas> goodgerster, but support for a few drivers that really matter is lacking ;)
[12:42] <goodgerster> dope: admittedly, once unpacked it's a total arse trying to make it do anything else...
[12:42] <idea> seveas: relogging in. let's see if that worked.
[12:42] <dope> lol
[12:42] <dope> some of the drivers seem hacked together
[12:42] <roo_> hi all - i need two users (who are in the same group, 'admins') to have rwx access to a directory.
[12:42] <dope> i like linux though
[12:43] <dope> when it's working correctly :D
[12:43] <goodgerster> dope: well, many of the drivers are hacked together
[12:43] <kitche> dope: the ati drivers are reverse engineered the open source ones that is
[12:43] <goodgerster> Seveas: ya... what is your stance on feisty's 3d driver inclusion?
[12:43] <XVampireX> dope, most of the drivers are hacked, developers have to reverse engineer the drivers for windows to get a linux version
[12:43] <dope> yea that's no good
[12:43] <dimeo> whens feisty going to be released?
[12:43] <XVampireX> In 2 months
[12:43] <goodgerster> dimeo: april
[12:43] <Seveas> goodgerster, neutral at the moment
[12:43] <dope> once companies release their own drivers then things will be good
[12:43] <HymnToLife> dime, April 15
[12:43] <goodgerster> dope: don't complain to us, complain to ATi
[12:44] <dope> no, i love you guys
[12:44] <Judicata> goodgerster: but, third parties won't let them!!! :)
[12:44] <mmdollar> Hello people can anyone help me ? it's for the first time for me to install Unbuntu when I get to part 5 (the section to select a partition to install Ubuntu) the screen shows me that all my hard drive is a unallocated
[12:44] <roo_> i've tried g+srwx for the directory,but only the owner of the file can write to the directory
[12:44] <dope> i'm not complaining, just making a note
[12:44] <dope> :)
[12:44] <Seveas> goodgerster, actually ati currently are the good guys
[12:44] <Seveas> they're working on releasing specs
[12:44] <Seveas> nvidia is not
[12:44] <Judicata> mmdollar: If you expected to see something else on your HD..that's bad news.
[12:44] <idea> seveas: um. deleted entries in fstab, relogged in. same issue.
[12:44] <Seveas> idea, you need to unmount the drives or reboot :)
[12:45] <XVampireX> Seveas, They should release the specs first and then we talk
[12:45] <dope> i just snorted some nasal stuff and my head is POUNDING
[12:45] <mmdollar> judicata well yea I expected to see sda1 sda5 and 3 :)
[12:45] <idea> seveas: um. ok. thanks.
[12:45] <goodgerster> Seveas: I think that including the drivers by default is not a good idea: the users should be forced to install them by themselves so they can be bombarded with messages about "proprietary therefore unstable, bad etc etc" BUT should not be obstructed from doing so. just as long as they're making the choice themselves
[12:45] <goodgerster> dope: lovely
[12:45] <Seveas> XVampireX, true
[12:45] <dope> :D
[12:45] <Judicata> mmdollar: is XP on the disk?
[12:45] <roo_> any ideas on how to setup permissions on a dir so two users (who are in the same group) can read and write to it?
[12:45] <mmdollar> yes on sda1
[12:45] <dope> but i can breathe now
[12:45] <goodgerster> roo_: make the directory writeable by their group
[12:45] <SecrethX> hmm.. somehow I managed to change my startup screen :P where can I change it back to normal?
[12:46] <mmdollar> I want to use sda3 for install linux, but I dunno how to point this partition to ubuntu
[12:46] <roo_> goodgerster, chmod g+rw dirname  ?
[12:46] <Harrison> Hello all. I have an extended FAT32 drive on a dual boot Ubuntu / Windows machine. Can anyone PM me with a link / explanation to be able to view that partition in Ubuntu? Thanks
[12:46] <goodgerster> SecrethX: your startup screen? you mean the splash, or the login screen?
[12:46] <HymnToLife> SecrethX, define "startup screen"
[12:46] <goodgerster> roo_: probably. but I've never tried... I use the file manager
[12:46] <SecrethX> Splash screen, the login screen is after it..
[12:46] <Seveas> SecrethX, sudo dpkg-reconfigure upsplash && sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:46] <idea> ok. *laughs* next issue. i've just nuked an ntfs partition, and the swap file is in the same extended drive partition.. i want to consolidate all the free space and re-allocate the swap file.. is this possible?
[12:47] <Seveas> idea, yes
[12:47] <goodgerster> idea: yeah, you needn't retain the data on the swap disk
[12:47] <adaptr> idea: if all teh space you are talking about is in the same extended partition, you can simply delete it and create a normal (primary) partition
[12:47] <SecrethX> Seveas, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: upsplash is not installed
[12:47] <mmdollar> Judicata: can you point to me somekind of link to see how can I resolve my problem or something
[12:47] <hbaigu> roo_: chmow
[12:47] <SecrethX> apt-get it?
[12:48] <sancho___> any currently known issues with install flashplugin-nonfree on edgy? i'm getting 'automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes' at the end of 'apt-get install' (and this happens if I run 'update-flashplugin' manually as well.
[12:48] <Seveas> SecrethX, sorry, it's usplash
[12:48] <hbaigu> roo_: chown
[12:48] <goodgerster> btw, does anyone know of some animation software for linux, that is not synfig? I'd like to do some animation on an svg
[12:48] <Ashton_Ke> Anyone here using an Atheros based wireless card?
[12:48] <Seveas> not upsplash :)
[12:48] <SecrethX> oh ok
[12:48] <Judicata> mmdollar: do you have XP on the drive?
[12:48] <Seveas> !anyone | Ashton_Ke
[12:48] <ubotu> Ashton_Ke: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:48] <idea> so, guys, if i delete the swap.. how is it recreated?
[12:48] <adaptr> idea: by you
[12:48] <goodgerster> idea: you need to retain the disc itself..
[12:48] <Seveas> goodgerster, blender? :)
[12:48] <mmdollar> Judicata: yes on sda1 and I use sda5 for movies and games
[12:48] <HymnToLife> idea, mkswap && swapon
[12:48] <goodgerster> idea: the data is not important
[12:48] <goodgerster> Seveas: blender is a) a convoluted arse and b) 3d-based
[12:48] <Ashton_Ke> Because I have a netgear WG311T, and when I'm downloading a file through firefox, sometimes it just... stops.
[12:48] <ultramookie> Ashton_Ke: I am
[12:48] <SecrethX> ehm I think it worked
[12:48] <goodgerster> ooh, a hailstorm.
[12:48] <SecrethX> ill reboot :)
[12:48] <Ashton_Ke> If I try and restart my wireless, the computer completely locks up.
[12:48] <Seveas> goodgerster, but it does animate ;)
[12:49] <Ashton_Ke> Have you noticed this as of late?
[12:49] <SecrethX> bbiab
[12:49] <ultramookie> madwifi drivers work fine with my atheros cards
[12:49] <HymnToLife> Ashton_Ke, firefox is a web browse, not a downloader
[12:49] <goodgerster> Seveas: yes, but does it animate SVGs with alpha channels?
[12:49] <Ashton_Ke> Well, it has the capability to download stuff.
[12:49] <HymnToLife> thansfers stalling in FF happens, use a proper downloader instead :)
[12:49] <Ashton_Ke> Like, through an FTP file server, etc.
[12:49] <idea> so i can presumably go into gnome partition editor, delete swap, delete unallocated space in extended partion, and create a couple of primaries? is that the idea?
[12:49] <Seveas> goodgerster, having never touched blender, I don't know
[12:49] <HymnToLife> transfers*
[12:49] <Ashton_Ke> Hymn, but why would it crash my entire computer?
[12:49] <SG> somebody speak spanish?
[12:49] <goodgerster> Ashton_Ke: it's not firefox, it's the wireless driver
[12:50] <Seveas> idea, only if you do 'swapoff -a' first
[12:50] <HymnToLife> !es | SG
[12:50] <ubotu> SG: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:50] <adaptr> !es | SG
[12:50] <Ashton_Ke> Then how can I fix this?
[12:50] <idea> seveas: ok.
[12:50] <n2diy> adaptr: I've been waiting for you, guess what I found?
[12:50] <goodgerster> Ashton_Ke: use a different wireless {driver|card|driver version}
[12:50] <idea> seveas: presumably that's the same as doing swapoff from the gnome partition manager?
[12:50] <roo_> hbaigu, yeah, i know its chown, but chown _what_ ?!
[12:50] <goodgerster> greetings, adaptr
[12:50] <SG> i have a question about gnomebaker
[12:50] <HymnToLife> !ask | SG
[12:50] <ubotu> SG: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:51] <Seveas> idea, could be (I never touched the gnome thingie)
[12:51] <goodgerster> SG: ask it, then
[12:51] <facugaich> SG, anda al canal #ubuntu-es
[12:51] <nixnoob> anyone kno what the command for ossmixer is?
[12:51] <Judicata> Anyone know how to set nickname highlighting on in ircII/EPIC (or even irssi for that matter).
[12:51] <Ashton_Ke> Ultramookie, are you using the driver that came in the Restricted Modules?
[12:51] <adaptr> idea: you can only create one primary partition in the place of the extended partition; unless you have one or more primaries left over you need to keep the extended partition if you need more than one new partition (and you probably do, with swap)
[12:51] <adaptr> goodgerster: g'devenin'
[12:51] <Judicata> mmdollar: you still here?
[12:51] <goodgerster> *waves*
[12:51] <mmdollar> Judicata: yes
[12:51] <goodgerster> *pings bell* anyone not being served?
[12:51] <jrib> Judicata: /set hilight_nick_matches on   in irssi
[12:51] <adaptr> n2diy: no guessing tonight, sorry.. okay, just this once: you found a duck ?
[12:51] <Judicata> mmdollar: so, do you have XP or another OS on the disk, and will that OS still boot?
[12:51] <hbaigu> roo_: chown :group dir
[12:51] <SG> i cant use it cuz close it when i try to burn a dvd
[12:51] <kempo> when i boot the ubuntu-server edition, is there a sshd running? cause i dont have a monitor ;)
[12:52] <sancho___> goodgerster: you could give my flashplugin question a go :)
[12:52] <kempo> i mean from cdrom
[12:52] <Judicata> jrib: thanks, I'll see if that works on epic.
[12:52] <Hansin321> mmdollar: I have a set up like this --> hda1=XP/ntfs, hda2=ntfs storage, hda3=Xubuntu, hda4=>(hda5=Ubuntu, hda6=swap for hda3 and hda5).  So esentially a triple boot system.  I can't remember having any problems setting it up.  I'll follow your thread wil Judicata, and jump in if I can help.
[12:52] <goodgerster> SG: run from terminal and tell us the error. or better, tell #ubuntu-es
[12:52] <mmdollar> Judicata: yes I've XP
[12:52] <goodgerster> sancho___: hmm, good point
[12:52] <belkin> shouldnt cdrecord dev=/dev/hda blank=fast  erase data from my mini dvd-rw ?
[12:52] <Judicata> mmdollar: and will it boot?
[12:52] <mmdollar> yeap
[12:52] <goodgerster> sancho___: could you stick the entire output from APT-Get to pastebin?
[12:52] <mmdollar> when I write cfdisk it shows me the 3 partitions
[12:52] <n2diy> adaptr: nope, a Ubuntu poll, halfway down on the left: http://www.ubuntux.org/dapper-drake-and-vnc
[12:52] <sancho___> goodgerster: can do.
[12:52] <mmdollar> but on the install it doesnt ;/
[12:53] <sharkieez> hi all
[12:53] <roo_> hbaigu, and read/write permissions? all group members should be able to read and write
[12:53] <Judicata> mmdollar: and I guess the partitions are invisible if you just open up gparted from the live cd?
[12:53] <davey486> I've been reading through the forums and can't find anything that tells me how to get my usb gamepad working, is there anyone that can help?
[12:53] <ctothej> I need some suggestions on a good php/html/css development suite or set of IDEs.
[12:53] <adaptr> n2diy: fancy that... it's not IRC-based, sadly :(
[12:53] <SecrethX> Seveas, It worked, thanks, but now my Login screen has a freaky resolution ;P (yes its a custom one)
[12:53] <Hyarion2> hm...I'm attempting to get my wireless adapter working, and it looks like I've got the driver installed and recognized via ndiswrapper, yet I'm still not online, anyone have any ideas?
[12:53] <goodgerster> ctothej: the most popular UK linux mag gives Drupal 9/10
[12:54] <sharkieez> i been looking all over ubuntu.org for the page listing all the installs. Would someone point me in the right direction?
[12:54] <sapage> !freenc
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freenc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <sapage> !vnc
[12:54] <factboy818181> anyone know what bounding box means in CUPS?  the cups errors log mention it in and comment in header...
[12:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:54] <Jedrick> im upgrading my box to edgy using apt-get  and sometimes my internet connection get disconnected.. is that ok to do dist-upgrade again? i mean do i have to download all the files again or the previous download will be counted?
[12:54] <Hansin321> mmdollar: I can't remember what the partion part was like like on the install (I actually partioned the drive before I installed anything, knowing I wanted to be able to triple boot).  What kind of drive do you have?
[12:54] <sapage> !freeNX
[12:54] <goodgerster> sharkieez: how do you mean?
[12:54] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:54] <n2diy> adaptr: True.
[12:54] <adaptr> goodgerster: erm.. drupal is a CMS, not a development environment
[12:54] <Hansin321> PATA, SATA, SCSI?
[12:54] <ctothej> goodgerster: Drupal is a program? I thought is was a php CMS type ... yeah
[12:54] <mmdollar> Judicata: there are visible from gparted
[12:54] <HymnToLife> Jedrick, just dist-upgrade again, it will download only the packages that were's downloaded before
[12:54] <jrib> Jedrick: they should stay there (the partial downloads) but you shouldn't use apt-get, update-manger is recommended
[12:54] <goodgerster> oh smeg, thought you meant CMS as opposed to IDE
[12:54] <dimeo> sapage.. freenx is much better than vnc ... fast !
[12:54] <sharkieez> goodgerster, I am looking for a page that lists all the installation methods to install ubuntu
[12:55] <Judicata> mmdollar: but, not from the installer??
[12:55] <ctothej> nah an IDE
[12:55] <adaptr> goodgerster: "as opposed to IDE" ? that makes even less sense !
[12:55] <kitche> !install|sharkieez
[12:55] <ubotu> sharkieez: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:55] <n2diy> ! freenx
[12:55] <goodgerster> to those concerned: emacs is popular but obscure
[12:55] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:55] <mmdollar> Judicata: yes :(
[12:55] <Jedrick> ok
[12:55] <Judicata> mmdollar: so, you go to manually edit the partition table, and it shows that the whole thing is unallocated?
[12:55] <Armen> ello
[12:55] <dsquare> how do i get my gateway IP to access my router please???
[12:55] <mmdollar> Judicata: yeap that's right
[12:55] <ctothej> adaptr: you have any suggestions?
[12:55] <adaptr> ctothej: open up synaptic, and search for "development"
[12:55] <adaptr> ctothej: does it have to do more than one language at once ?
[12:55] <kitche> dsquare: look at route
[12:55] <mmdollar> is it possible that the kernel cant read sata?
[12:56] <goodgerster> sharkieez: hmm, I don't know the page... but you have the options of the livecd, alternate-cd, server-cd, mini-cd or network boot; or you can install from windows
[12:56] <HymnToLife> dsquare, ifconfig
[12:56] <belkin> is there anyone who knows how to blank a mini dvd-rw ?
[12:56] <ctothej> adaptr: nope. i have my C++ and Java IDEs all set. Just need my PHP/CSS
[12:56] <Cyrus25801> jrib: i tried both the wiki's (for tv out nvidia) you sent me to both didn't work. any advise
[12:56] <belkin> sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hda/ blank=fast
[12:56] <belkin> doesnt work
[12:56] <goodgerster> sharkieez: is there a particular thing you want?
[12:56] <goodgerster> ctothej: Bluefish is my favourite
[12:56] <dsquare> thanks kitche and HymnToLife!
[12:56] <ctothej> adaptr: Im in synaptic, Development category
[12:56] <DingoK> I've seen apache server configured before to have http://domain/~username query /home/username/public_html. Is there some sort of configuration option in apache that allows this to happen, or is the administrator symlinking each individual account in a script?
[12:57] <Ashton_Ke> Here's to hoping my wireless driver doesn't crap out during a measly 3.0 mb download
[12:57] <goodgerster> ah, I saw "PHP" and went "CMS"
[12:57] <belkin> /dev/hda on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660
[12:57] <ctothej> goodgerster: ill check it out. thanks. yeah, i feel you.
[12:57] <jrib> Cyrus25801: no sorry, I've never set that up.  Maybe you can search the forums too
[12:57] <Judicata> mmdollar: but the partitions are visible when you open up gparted. So, just to make sure I understand, this means you haven't completed the installation process right?
[12:57] <goodgerster> *pings bell*
[12:57] <Cyrus25801> cool thanx
[12:57] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[12:57] <mmdollar> yes because when I get to the step to chose Ubuntu to install on a partition its shows that all it's unallocated ;/
[12:58] <SecrethX> goodgerster,  my Login screen has a freaky resolution ;P (yes its a custom one)
[12:58] <Judicata> goodgerster: you can take over with mmdollar.
[12:58] <goodgerster> mmdollar: if you find a solution to that, tell me. I had to remake my entire disclabel
[12:58] <dimeo> my favorite ubuntu discovery of the day:   virtualbox!
[12:58] <sancho___> goodgerster: http://pastebin.com/863870
[12:58] <Judicata> goodgerster: well...scratch that idea.
[12:59] <dimeo> better than vmware !? quite possibly
[12:59] <goodgerster> SecrethX: hmm, tell me the screen resolution and look at your Xorg.conf
[12:59] <Judicata> mmdollar: sorry, hopefully someone else can figure this out.
[12:59] <goodgerster> cheers, sancho___
[12:59] <mmdollar> np :)
[12:59] <mmdollar> atleast you try
[12:59] <sancho___> goodgerster: appears to be a problem with retrieval of the installer, but i've downloaded it manually and apparently no problems, although i can't be sure.
[12:59] <goodgerster> mmdollar: I think it's a combination of a slightly borked disclabel and a major bug in gparted 0.25
[01:00] <SecrethX> I dont know the resolution but it is tall and small.. so would be like 1440x900 (that one is in my xorg.conf among with others)
[01:00] <mmdollar> I can try with gparted to make a partition so I hope the installation to read it
[01:00] <goodgerster> sancho___: meh, that method is shite anyway... go to the adobe website, download the tarball for flash 9 and follow instructions on extracting to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[01:01] <ctothej> Now what about an XML tool??
[01:01] <goodgerster> mmdollar: you'll lose all data there
[01:01] <goodgerster> ctothej: bluefish does XML also
[01:01] <sancho___> goodgerster: no package management to be had for flash then?
[01:01] <cappiz_> someone here ever tried to install ubuntu to an encrypted USB-pen?
[01:01] <goodgerster> sancho___: no good package management, no
[01:01] <dsquare> can anyone tell me how to access my d-link router? am i supposed to enter my gateway address in a browser??
[01:01] <mmdollar> goodgerster: well this partition was empty :)
[01:01] <goodgerster> cappiz_, possibly... not sensible, tbh
[01:01] <ctothej> goodgerster: nice, in a plugin or directly supports it?
[01:02] <goodgerster> mmdollar: no, you'll lose your entire disc
[01:02] <dsquare> if so, where in my ifconfig or route do i find my gateway, i don't see it there.
[01:02] <goodgerster> ctothej: it directly supports it, I think. it is a HTML editor by genetics, but does XML as a sort of cousin
[01:02] <SecrethX> goodgerster,  I dont know the resolution but it is tall and small.. so would be like 1440x900 (that one is in my xorg.conf among with others)
[01:02] <Angelus> hi guys,
[01:02] <adaptr> dsquare: route  | grep default
[01:02] <Angelus> I was wondering if I could get some help on a nokia mobile phone
[01:03] <Angelus> I don't know if I'm in the right forum
[01:03] <sancho___> goodgerster: fair enough, thanks for the look.
[01:03] <kitche> dsquare: the line that says default then it should have an ip under gateway
[01:03] <owh> Angelus: Is it running Ubuntu?
[01:03] <Angelus> I would like to know how to connect to a nokia 6230 and install a JAR file
[01:03] <mmdollar> btw what FS should I put ? is ext3 good?
[01:03] <goodgerster> mmdollar: yep, probably best
[01:03] <Cyrus25801> is there anyway of "disabling" where it shows on the main screen when some one logs in or out on the chat room
[01:03] <dsquare> "192.168.0.1"  <-- do i just put this in firefox?
[01:03] <goodgerster> SecrethX: well, remove that res from xorg.conf if you like
[01:03] <owh> dsquare: No.
[01:03] <Angelus> yes I am owh
[01:03] <owh> dsquare: First things first.
[01:04] <owh> dsquare: How are you connecting to your router?
[01:04] <goodgerster> Cyrus25801: check the preferences of your IRC client
[01:04] <gabaryah> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[01:04] <gabaryah> direct rendering: No
[01:04] <gabaryah> after install ati drivers i'm still not getting 3d
[01:04] <gabaryah> what gives
[01:04] <jorge_> somebody can help me???
[01:04] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I did remove them, now I have this: "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:04] <belkin> need to blank my mini dvd-rw sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hda/ blank=fast doesnt work , dev/hda on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 any help ?
[01:04] <SecrethX> so this should fix it?
[01:04] <sancho___> jorge_: just ask.
[01:04] <dsquare> owh, ethernet? also, uh oh, my router wants a password... i don't know it.
[01:05] <goodgerster> SecrethX: your login screen will be restricted to those then
[01:05] <dsquare> i probably wrote it in the manual which i cant find.
[01:05] <cokeslut> Hello
[01:05] <dsquare> maybe i can find a reset button
[01:05] <Hyarion2> dsquare, linksys?
[01:05] <dsquare> d-link
[01:05] <goodgerster> dsquare: try admin/admin
[01:05] <owh> dsquare: Ok, how did you get the IP address for your ethernet connection.
[01:05] <SecrethX> goodgerster, okay :)
[01:05] <dsquare> ok
[01:05] <Hyarion2> hmm, I know linksys is nothing for the username and admin for the pass
[01:05] <goodgerster> *pings bell* anyone not being served?
[01:05] <Kidstar64> HELP: I installed ubuntu using the alterntive cd and when i try to boot it it says that is faild to initalize "X". What gives
[01:06] <TracerBullet> the latest updates show up a warning about "you are about to install packages that can't be authenticated!" blah ... do I need to install some new keys or something ?
[01:06] <goodgerster> I really should automate the ping thing
[01:06] <jorge_> Its the first time I use this program how can I to in on the TERRA chats?? excuseme, mi english is very bad, Im spanish
[01:06] <kitche> Kidstar64: configure X
[01:06] <owh> dsquare: For your connection to work, you need to have your IP address in the same sub-net as the router.
[01:06] <goodgerster> Kidstar64: more detail please
[01:06] <Kidstar64> how
[01:06] <dsquare> owh, i got it from gateway under route, but im sure it's the right up because my router is responding and asking for a password (which i don't know and admin/admin doesn't work)
[01:06] <goodgerster> !es | jorge
[01:06] <ubotu> jorge: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:06] <mmdollar> Judicata: hey dude it works now :)
[01:06] <kitche> Kidstar64: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:06] <Kidstar64> when i boot it up, it says theres something wrong with my x
[01:06] <dsquare> ok owh my connection is working im just trying to get my dccs and torrents working
[01:06] <cokeslut> tell me
[01:06] <goodgerster> Kidstar64: yes, what does it say apart from that?
[01:06] <Kidstar64> k im a noob, so where do i unput this command
[01:06] <kitche> Kidstar64: you have to ctrl+alt+f2 to get into anotehr console
[01:06] <goodgerster> !ask | cokeslut
[01:06] <ubotu> cokeslut: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:07] <TracerBullet> dsquare if you are behind a router turn on passive mode for dcc
[01:07] <SecrethX> goodgerster, ill reboot and try it
[01:07] <owh> dsquare: Right, so now the question is how do I do that on my Dlink router?
[01:07] <cratel> is mplayer compiled with jack support in dapper? I'm having problems with "mplayer -ao jack"
[01:07] <owh> dsquare: Is that what you're asking?
[01:07] <Kidstar64> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- where do i input the command
[01:07] <dsquare> owh, yes, thank you. and the first step is to reset it, i think, since i don't know my password.
[01:07] <Angelus> so what do I need to do to get the nokia to understand the JAR files?
[01:08] <jorge_> how can I go to ubuntu-es??
[01:08] <dsquare> i will bbs if this disconnects me.
[01:08] <owh> goodgerster: Have a chat with Angelus.
[01:08] <goodgerster> Kidstar64: press ctrl-alt-f1 then log in and type that
[01:08] <ctothej> goodgerster: what's your favorite linux coding font?
[01:08] <goodgerster> ctothej: for gods' sakes... courier
[01:08] <ctothej> haha
[01:08] <kitche> dsquare: a reset usually disconnects people
[01:08] <Kidstar64> u mean boot in command line only
[01:08] <owh> dsquare: Well, resetting it will change the IP address, likely to 192.168.0.50.
[01:08] <Kidstar64> note: using grub boot loader
[01:08] <goodgerster> Angelus: I fear I know bugger-all about phones, sorry
[01:08] <ctothej> im just trying to settle in here, making a home you know
[01:08] <goodgerster> Kidstar64: yes, anyone not doing so is insane
[01:09] <Angelus> no worries :)  is there another chat room that I could try?
[01:09] <Jedrick> after i finished upgrading my box to edgy will all of my settings will be gone? i mean my internet connection settings, video driver, themes and etc. do i have to install them back again?
[01:09] <Hyarion2> ack, I've now been trying for 5 hours to get this stupid wireless adapter to work and still nothing...I have the driver installed with ndiswrapper but I'm still not online, anyone have any ideas?
[01:09] <adaptr> Angelus: it either understands them or it doesn't - there's not much you can do to *make* it understand Java
[01:09] <Kidstar64> ok, ill restart and pot my results!
[01:09] <kitche> Jedrick: if you upgrade no
[01:09] <goodgerster> is there a mod in the house?
[01:09] <owh> Angelus: Indeed, what adaptr says is correct. My Nokia has an application loader built in. It understands a mini-version of JAVA.
[01:10] <goodgerster> is there a mod in the house _now_?
[01:10] <SecrethX> goodgerster, still the same :s
[01:10] <Angelus> If I try to send the file across to the nokia, it says it doesn't understand the file. The file I'm sending is a .jar file
[01:10] <owh> Angelus: One route you may try is to go to the .jar file in the built-in browser and attempt to download it.
[01:10] <goodgerster> SecrethX: very strange. your monitor should tell you the res on its menu..
[01:10] <n2diy> goodgerster: !ops summons them.
[01:11] <gabaryah> what version of X ubuntu uses
[01:11] <goodgerster> !ops
[01:11] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:11] <SecrethX> goodgerster, *slaps himself, why didnt I think about that!*
[01:11] <Siixxa> anyone have a good suggestion for a blog? program wise i mean.
[01:11] <gnomefreak> goodgerster: ?
[01:11] <goodgerster> Siixxa: lack of Wordpress indicates insanity
[01:11] <SecrethX> goodgerster, ill reboot in a minute, first gotta do something
[01:12] <Siixxa> okay, thanks, i was gonna go with drupal
[01:12] <emss> Siixxa: emacs or vim
[01:12] <gnomefreak> goodgerster: what do you need?
[01:12] <goodgerster> gnomefreak: I'm afraid I just realised my ubotu-modification request is pointless
[01:12] <cholo> who was the brilliant mind that made it impossible to select a custom timezone in the "alternative" installer???????
[01:12] <kitche> bah he left hopefully he knows how to work with drupal since it's more then a CMS
[01:12] <kitche> cholo: you can select a time zone
[01:13] <kitche> cholo: have to go the the main menu
[01:13] <adaptr> cholo: cp /usr/share/timezone/your-location /etc/timezone
[01:13] <cholo> *and* restrict the available timezones depending on the selected language!
[01:13] <goodgerster> thanks for that, I wasn't to know
[01:13] <adaptr> cholo: you can do that any "time" you like
[01:13] <OmegaCenti> !gaim
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[01:13] <cholo> adaptr: I'm talking about the installer
[01:13] <kitche> cholo: it doesn't restrict
[01:13] <goodgerster> cholo: the timezones are not restricted to your language but to your location, as selected before
[01:14] <p47> hey can someone help me with samba+acl's ? some users can't modify the files enside of a folder !
[01:14] <goodgerster> if indeed at all
[01:14] <cratel> I'm figuring mplayer dapper binary doesn't have jack support. I want to compile exactly the dapper source but w/ jack support. How would I do this?
[01:14] <cholo> goodgerster: it infers the location from the selected language it seems
[01:14] <idea> ok. mostly all goodness now. mostly :)
[01:14] <adaptr> cholo: yerps, but if it doesn't allow you to choose anything, you'll have to change it later, no?
[01:14] <goodgerster> cholo: not AFAIK
[01:14] <atoponce> will gnupg2 replace the 1.4.x versions in main?
[01:14] <atoponce> in feisty, that is?
[01:14] <cholo> adaptr: thats not the point
[01:14] <atoponce> or later versions?
[01:15] <goodgerster> atoponce: I have no idea, I suggest you examine the repos
[01:15] <goodgerster> cholo: what is the point? surely you cannot be running on Tasmanian Time in france..
[01:15] <sapag1> anyone here know much abotu freenx?
[01:15] <p47> do somebody has experience with acl's ?
[01:15] <idea> i still have an issue with resizing an ntfs partition that gnome partition editor tells me isn't clean, but it is (checked via nt bootdisc).. any ideas?
[01:15] <goodgerster> !freeNX
[01:15] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:15] <atoponce> goodgerster: yeah. taking a look at them now. doesn't look like feisty will, but would be nice to see it in later versions
[01:15] <ardchoille> What is the url for the Ubuntu section of PLF (Penguin Liberation Front)? Are they still around?
[01:15] <sapag1> i dont know how to add the repositer
[01:15] <SecrethX> goodgerster, its 1600x1200
[01:15] <goodgerster> !samba | p47
[01:15] <ubotu> p47: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:16] <atoponce> no need to have it in universe, unless there is some backwards compatibility with it
[01:16] <eternalswd> cratel, why limit yourself to just the dapper source?  svn is quite improved since then, or even download a tarball from www.mplayerhq.hu.  If you really want dapper source, just download the source package from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:16] <cholo> goodgerster: the problem is that I choose spanish as a language and it only lets choose spanish tomezones!!!
[01:16] <FooAtari> hi.  anyone think they can help with no sound on a laptop?
[01:16] <goodgerster> SecrethX: odd, very odd. I suggest you check the "make global default" thing in the resolution selector
[01:16] <gabaryah> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[01:16] <gabaryah> direct rendering: No
[01:16] <samalex> stupid question, but is sshd not installed outta the box with Ubuntu 6.10 Workstation?
[01:16] <cholo> like, spanish is spoken in 20 countries at least
[01:16] <gabaryah> i followe ati guide still no 3d rendering
[01:16] <SecrethX> goodgerster, already tried that.. didnt help
[01:16] <idea> footari: have you tried running alsamixer from a command prompt?
[01:16] <cholo> not only in spain
[01:16] <gabaryah> can someone please help me
[01:16] <adaptr> samalex: SSH is, openssh-server is a separate package in *buntu
[01:17] <Hyarion2> anyone have any experience with Ubuntu and wireless adapters?
[01:17] <goodgerster> cholo: it doesn't restrict by your language, that'd be stupid
[01:17] <kitche> cholo: you probably choosen spain has a country since that's the only way that it restricts time zones
[01:17] <idea> fooatari: run alsamixer from prompt. or install gnome alsa mixer.
[01:17] <FooAtari> yeah it doesnt work   alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[01:17] <FooAtari>     ill quickly explain
[01:17] <eternalswd> gabaryah, did you change your xorg.conf or something?
[01:17] <cratel> eternalswd: I'm just trying to avoid spending a lot of time with ./configure options. I'd like the dapper ./configure options + the jack support. I don't really care about the source. How do I find out what options it was configured w/ for dapper?
[01:17] <cholo> kitche: there is no coutry chooser, just language
[01:17] <p47> ubotu: yes I know. in fact I have samba and acls but now I have aproblem wit some permissions
[01:17] <goodgerster> !ndiswrapper | Hyarion2
[01:17] <ubotu> Hyarion2: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:17] <p47> can you help me ?
[01:17] <p47> ubuntu: couls you help me with this problem ?
[01:17] <kitche> cholo: hmm I had country
[01:17] <SecrethX> goodgerster, could it have something to do with XGL being installed?
[01:17] <samalex> adaptr, thanks. the openssh server is what I was looking for.
[01:17] <FooAtari> when i first installed ubuntu, there was no sound.  i run alsamixer and when i turned up surround volume it worked.  so i rebooted, then no alsa and no sound
[01:17] <idea> FooAtari: that's my only shot! worked for me (linux newb).. others will doubtless no more.
[01:18] <owh> cholo: We're not seeing what you are, but I don't recall such a timezone restriction. Of course you can just install it under GMT and change the timezone afterwards.
[01:18] <adaptr> p47: probably not, ubotu is a bot
[01:18] <eternalswd> cratel, for that, you'd have to ask whoever built it
[01:18] <goodgerster> p47, ubotu is a robot
[01:18] <Hyarion2> goodgerster unfortunately I've read all the docs and all the forum posts, still stuck ;(
[01:18] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yes, yes it could. get rid of XGL as much as possible
[01:18] <FooAtari> thanks anyway idea
[01:18] <cratel> eternalswd: I was hoping that info would be with the dapper source...
[01:18] <gabaryah> i never had dri
[01:18] <gabaryah> beryl is working
[01:18] <Hyarion2> actually got ndiswrapper working and recognizing the driver, just stuck after that
[01:18] <p47> adaptr: ... goodgerster  lol :P could you help me
[01:18] <gabaryah> ati radeon 9600 pro
[01:18] <SecrethX> goodgerster, will do
[01:18] <goodgerster> p47: sorry, I use ethernet. much more sensible
[01:19] <goodgerster> SecrethX: there is no reason to use XGL, as it's much worse than XAIGL which is provided in edgy
[01:19] <SpacePuppy> ati pro cards are really hard to get up and running .
[01:19] <p47> goodgerster: ok thank's !
[01:19] <eternalswd> cratel, mplayer detects most options based on the libraries you have installed anyways.  the only important ones you need to add are --enable-gui --enable-menu --enable-largefiles
[01:19] <p47> adaptr: can you help me ?
[01:19] <goodgerster> *pings bell*
[01:19] <slipstream3d> hello everyone
[01:19] <cholo> kitche, owh: that's strange, I downloaded the cd a couple of hours ago
[01:19] <samalex> hrm, so how do I enable sshd, or the ssh server so I can ssh into my box?
[01:19] <goodgerster> can anyone help me with adding a custom slash command to x-chat gnome?
[01:19] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I saw XGL in my 'sessions' list on the logon screen, but in Synaptic I search for XGL and nothing is installed :S
[01:19] <slipstream3d> samalex: install openssh-server
[01:20] <owh> cholo: What is strange about that?
[01:20] <samalex> slipstream3d, I have, but not sure how to enable it as it's not enabled by default (I guess anyway)
[01:20] <goodgerster> SecrethX: verry strainge
[01:20] <adaptr> p47: with what ?
[01:20] <p47> could someone help me please with ACL's ?
[01:20] <cholo> kitche, owh: the first option is "select Language" and there's nothing to select location
[01:20] <Kidstar64> after using the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it still says there si a problem with my x. what now?
[01:20] <p47> adaptr: with ACL's
[01:20] <adaptr> p47: *be more specific*
[01:20] <eternalswd> cratel, if you don't have the library it automatically disables that option.  You'll likely need to download the codec pack for linux.
[01:20] <cholo> owh: it's strange that we're seeing different things
[01:20] <ivx> hello does anybody know of any tax preparation software and also any finance management stuff?
[01:20] <goodgerster> Kidstar64: you never told us the problem with X. we can't help if you just say "there's a problem"
[01:20] <goodgerster> ivx, GNUCash
[01:20] <p47> adaptr: Y have samba and ACl's but I have aproblem... the users can acces but they need to modify some files you know !
[01:21] <slipstream3d> huh, i installed openssh-server and my ubuntu server box imppediately started running it. try typing /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:21] <cholo> brb
[01:21] <adaptr> p47: still teels me nothing
[01:21] <ivx> goodgerster, will this do both?
[01:21] <adaptr> *tells
[01:21] <p47> sapag1: lol mmm ok wait please
[01:21] <gabaryah> if i remove fglrx to ati will beryl still work
[01:21] <Kidstar64> it says that its nor confugured correctly and asks if i want to see the debug screen
[01:21] <cratel> eternalswd: okay thanks
[01:21] <goodgerster> ivx: it does all areas of book-keeping, including taxes, loans, and the amount of money you spend on fluffy hats per decade
[01:22] <ivx> goodgerster, lol thanks
[01:22] <gabaryah> i don't think my pc works with fglrx & DRI
[01:22] <goodgerster> gabaryah: well, yes, in the same way as treacle is a good substitute for water in a waterwheel
[01:22] <SecrethX> goodgerster,  even more weird, beryl also says XGL is absent.. so where does it come from in my login screen? :s
[01:22] <goodgerster> gabaryah: fglrx does, XGL doesn't
[01:22] <slipstream3d> can anyone tell me why 'dd' would be running on my server box, using 16% of the cpu pretty much ever since I started the system?
[01:22] <Kidstar64> it says that its nor confugured correctly and asks if i want to see the debug screen
[01:22] <mitrick> hi all
[01:22] <mitrick> anyone knows how to fix the prob i got
[01:22] <p47> adaptr: I'm working with samba + acls and I have som shred folders. now I have some permission for some users and the users can acces to their shared folders but inside all those folders they can't edit the files inside... that's the problem
[01:22] <gabaryah> i installed  fglrx
[01:22] <goodgerster> SecrethX: I have no idea. final thing: fiddle with your GDM config files, wherever they are
[01:23] <Enverex> Am I going insane or did the "What packages do you want to see added to Feisty?" thread dissapear?
[01:23] <peterlyberth> ive put edubuntu in vmware alog with a thin clinet.The clients get the kernel shows the splash, then nothing.
[01:23] <peterlyberth> How do i disable the splash
[01:23] <gabaryah> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:23] <Kidstar64> 4 me?
[01:23] <p47> adaptr: I think that is a problem for permissions but I don't know ! can you help me ?
[01:23] <eternalswd> cratel, remember though, just because you have the dependencies for the mplayer deb does not mean that you have those libraries.
[01:23] <gabaryah> followed guide
[01:23] <mitrick> when i close my laptop lid it blanks the screen and never comes back i need to reboot
[01:23] <Kidstar64> k, i will
[01:23] <Thiefmn6092> Ubuntu!
[01:23] <owh> cholo: I'm not looking at your screen. I've been installing Debian for years. I installed Ubuntu Alternate once in October. I recall that it is the same. I have not seen the timezone issue you describe. You can install your machine simply in GMT, then use sudo tzconfig to set your current zone. The files created will be using your hardware clock anyway, which should be set to GMT.
[01:23] <Thiefmn6092> How lovely.
[01:23] <goodgerster> Enverex: I suspect it disappeared. feisty will be out in less than three months, I suspect they've stopped with that kind of thing.... you could report a "request"-level bug
[01:24] <mitrick> i tried to fix the power management inside gnome
[01:24] <goodgerster> !ask | thief
[01:24] <ubotu> thief: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:24] <mitrick> but doesnt do nothing better
[01:24] <slipstream3d> (is there a slightly less busy ubuntu server room? I couldn't find one, but I'm not the biggest IRC user...)
[01:24] <goodgerster> slipstream3d: nope, sorry.
[01:24] <Thiefmn6092> !ask Download
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask Download - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <SecrethX> goodgerster,  where are those config files? :P
[01:24] <cholo> owh, kitche:  ok, I found what it was.... when you change the language in the first boot screen (not in debian installer) then on the installer you can't change the country, it's locked to Spain
[01:24] <Enverex> goodgerster, I'm just supprised, I went to post in it as it was just a normal thread on the forum, but I can't find it, I would have thought it would be locked or something
[01:24] <goodgerster> !download
[01:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:24] <peterlyberth> Anyone with ltsp experinse?
[01:24] <goodgerster> Enverex: true.
[01:24] <goodgerster> !ltsp
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <goodgerster> SecrethX: I have no idea. /etc is a good place to start, though
[01:25] <p47> adaptr: can you understand my problem ?
[01:25] <zodiak> aanyone using hp4900? laptop or has had success with broadcom adapters
[01:25] <owh> cholo: Did you see my previous comment?
[01:25] <eternalswd> gabaryah, I would suggest using aiglx with beryl using the opensource drivers for ati.  what type of card do you have?
[01:25] <cholo> owh, kitche: the fix is to boot without changing the language in the bootscreen and change it afterwards, from within debian-installer
[01:25] <owh> cholo: I'm not looking at your screen. I've been installing Debian for years. I installed Ubuntu Alternate once in October. I recall that it is the same. I have not seen the timezone issue you describe. You can install your machine simply in GMT, then use sudo tzconfig to set your current zone. The files created will be using your hardware clock anyway, which should be set to GMT.
[01:25] <slipstream3d> Damn. I know what dd is for (byte-identical copying), but I still don't have any idea why on earth it would be running. (top shows it as the #1 process)
[01:25] <SecrethX> goodgerster, ill let you know when I find them
[01:26] <Thiefmn6092> !ask download ubuntu
[01:26] <goodgerster> owh: do you know if there was a good reason to not make alternate the default? everything was better in the days of warty
[01:26] <goodgerster> theif!!
[01:26] <Thiefmn6092> lol
[01:26] <dimeo> anyone know why on my dual core 2 system archiving will only use 48% of my processor maximum... (and then takes forever).
[01:26] <zodiak> does anyone here know anything about broadcom wireless drivers?
[01:26] <goodgerster> look over here!!
[01:26] <owh> slipstream3d: You can do lsof | grep dd
[01:26] <Thiefmn6092> Yes?!
[01:26] <goodgerster> !download | Thiefmn6092
[01:26] <ubotu> Thiefmn6092: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:26] <dimeo> zodiak.. did you read my post on the ubuntu forums how i got my dell broadcom to work?
[01:26] <cholo> owh: *I know*... I'm trying to describe a bug in the alternate CD here...
[01:27] <zodiak> yah i coulndt get it to work
[01:27] <SoulChild> Hey what is a easy way to speed up boot???
[01:27] <owh> goodgerster: Well, the LiveCD-Installer is simpler to use for most people. The alternate CD is for people who want to fiddle.
[01:27] <dimeo> did u identify yet what kind of broadcom you have?
[01:27] <zodiak> dimeo what was the link again?
[01:27] <goodgerster> cholo! there is no bug! that functionality has never been put in! there is no reason for it to behave like that! nobody else claims to see this behaviour
[01:27] <cholo> owh: where can I file it? it shouldn't be doing that
[01:27] <goodgerster> owh: the alternate CD is for people who don't wish to be patronised, it seems
[01:28] <eternalswd> dimeo, most apps are not geared for multiprocessor and only use one of the two processors.  I'm guessing the 48% means it's using up just about all of one processor.
[01:28] <zodiak> yah i have the driver and ndswrapper....
[01:28] <SecrethX> goodgerster, found it; /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom (if the -custom is present, it will be using that file, of not then gdm.conf) but there is nothing in it with "resolution"
[01:28] <owh> cholo: Sorry, I didn't know that. You can file bugs here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[01:28] <HymnToLife> or for people who want something that doen't crash more often than not
[01:28] <dimeo> zodak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2007989&postcount=1
[01:28] <goodgerster> dimeo:  of course, you could use gentoo.
[01:28] <cholo> goodgerster: it *is* a bug... when you change the language in the first boot screen (not in debian installer) then on the installer you can't change the country, it's locked to Spain... the fix is to boot without changing the language in the bootscreen and change it afterwards, from within debian-installer
[01:28] <goodgerster> HymnToLife: amen
[01:28] <CrocoJet> hi all
[01:29] <owh> goodgerster: No, the alternate CD asks lots of complicated questions that most end users don't need to know or want to know about.
[01:29] <CrocoJet> is a good choice go to plataform 64 bits ?
[01:29] <dimeo> goodgerster... gentoo is better than ubuntu for utilizing the duo core ?
[01:29] <goodgerster> owh: such as?
[01:29] <ubuntu> hey how to copy from one directory all with out to repeat the direcotry
[01:29] <owh> goodgerster: LVM/RAID for one.
[01:29] <goodgerster> dimeo: yes. I was half-joking, since gentoo is also a complete waste of time and is utterly useless
[01:29] <dimeo> crocojet: i read that it's better to use 32bit currently
[01:29] <zodiak> dimeo ispci : command not found
[01:29] <goodgerster> owh: not really. it just displays the option
[01:29] <ubuntu> without to repeat the directory archive
[01:30] <CrocoJet> dimeo, why ?
[01:30] <belkin> how long should it take to blank a  dvd-rw with growisofs ?
[01:30] <cholo> owh, goodgerster: yeah, lvm... that's why I'm using alternate in the first place "D
[01:30] <dimeo> zodiak: lspci
[01:30] <dimeo> not i
[01:30] <goodgerster> CrocoJet: the x86 version is better. x86_64 doesn't have flash, or any media codecs
[01:30] <SecrethX> goodgerster, just nevermind it ;P ill set it to login within 5 seconds so I barely even notice it.. wanna hear my other problem? :P
[01:30] <Xenguy> ;
[01:30] <Xenguy> ;
[01:30] <eternalswd> ubuntu, I don't quite understand your question
[01:30] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yeah, go on
[01:30] <slipstream3d> owh: thanks, I forgot that command...
[01:30] <Xenguy> ;
[01:30] <owh> slipstream3d: Pleasure.
[01:31] <dimeo> croco:  i read that 64bit isnt as up to date at 32bit... you get 30% faster by going 64bit but at the cost of having less up to date software available in 64bit
[01:31] <SecrethX> goodgerster,  I have a 5.1 card, 5.1 boxes, plugged them in right and I still cant get more than 2 boxes to work :P
[01:31] <ubuntu> eternalswd man now i want to copy from one directory but it copy and direcotry too
[01:31] <goodgerster> eternalswd: {he|she|it} wants to copy a directoryful of files without the subdirectories
[01:31] <owh> goodgerster: Well, as I said, I've installed Debian for years. I used the installer many times. I have it down to 5 minutes. Still, many people complain about it. The LiveCD or normal installer helps make Ubuntu usable for more people which is a great thing. The Alternate CD is not.
[01:31] <zodiak> dimeo it just copys what i say Lspci | grep broadcom Lspci | grep broadcom
[01:31] <SecrethX> I admit, it is a bit of an old 5.1 card, but it is supported :S
[01:31] <eisma> After I updated my system, I restarted my computer and now nautilus quits unexpectedly. How do I fix this?
[01:31] <dimeo> i just got a 64 bit system and opted for 32bit ubuntu for those reasons I read about
[01:31] <gouki> I'm wondering if Sobby allows the administrator to define the folders in use. Can anyone help on this matter?
[01:31] <cholo> ok, bye people, have a nice day
[01:31] <goodgerster> SecrethX: again, fiddle with volume controls :)
[01:31] <SecrethX> goodgerster,  already done that (alsamixergui)
[01:31] <goodgerster> sorry I'm useless, but that's generally the best way around these things
[01:32] <p47> I can't to do that some users can modify files enside other folder... I'm using acls and samba and the users can connect to the server but the problem is that the users can not modify or edit someting...
[01:32] <ubuntu> eternalswd for exemple: cp -r -d /upload/ /lampp/htdocs/
[01:32] <goodgerster> SecrethX: try GNOME's builtin one
[01:32] <SecrethX> goodgerster, which is? :o
[01:32] <dimeo> zodiak:  try lspci
[01:32] <ubuntu> eternalswd to copy all archive with directory in directory htdocs without to make directory there
[01:32] <goodgerster> SecrethX: double-click the little speaker icon on your panel
[01:32] <dimeo> mine shows : 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[01:32] <webmaren> anybody know how to get xmms2 of Edgy AMD64
[01:33] <SecrethX> goodgerster, why didnt I think of that!!! darn :P
[01:33] <dimeo> that tells me what broadcom card i'm trying to set up
[01:33] <goodgerster> can anyone help me with adding a slash command to x-chat?
[01:33] <eternalswd> ubuntu, so you want everything in upload to be in /lampp/htdocs?
[01:33] <eisma> I restarted my computer and now nautilus doesn't work, how do I fix it?
[01:33] <goodgerster> eisma: *more context please*
[01:33] <ubuntu> eternalswd yes
[01:33] <eternalswd> ubuntu, without upload itself being in /lampp/htdocs?
[01:34] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I probably could, but I need to look into xchats plugin stuff then
[01:34] <ubuntu> eternalswd yes man
[01:34] <Xenguy> sorry, my keyboard input was screwed up there for awhile
[01:34] <eegore> !xpi
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <goodgerster> SecrethX: it doesn't have one
[01:34] <eisma> I updated my system, restarted my computer, icons and background don't show up and prompt comes up saying nautilus quit unexpectedly
[01:34] <goodgerster> eegore: what's the XPI-based trouble?
[01:34] <eisma> that came up a few times
[01:34] <slipstream3d> dd seems to have /proc/kmsg open, as well as some cmov libraries...
[01:34] <eternalswd> ubuntu, ok cd into upload and then do cp -r * /lampp/htdocs
[01:34] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I know, I ment the system that loads it :) what do you wanna do?
[01:34] <dimeo> !why-is-windows-EULA-evil
[01:34] <ubuntu> eternalswd ok man i will try it.
[01:35] <goodgerster> eisma: upgraded to edgy/feisty? or just a normal upgrade? did you change any repositories? any errors from APT/synaptic?
[01:35] <eegore> where do I install the file so I can read an ebook
[01:35] <zodiak> dimeo any ideas
[01:35] <Xenguy> dimeo: because windoze is evil =)
[01:35] <eisma> upgraded to edgy
[01:35] <eternalswd> ubuntu, or if you don't want subdirectories, just cp * /lampp/htdocs
[01:35] <Judicata> eegore: what kind of file is it?
[01:35] <eegore> .chm
[01:35] <Arcad3> WHO WANNA KNOW HOW TO LOGIN AS ROOT?
[01:35] <eisma> goodgerster i upgraded to edgy and added repositories? might be the same thing i dunno
[01:35] <Xenguy> eegore: there's a chm viewer AFAIK
[01:35] <dimeo> zodiak: when you enter lspci do you see an output similar to mine.. what i showed you?
[01:35] <SecrethX> goodgerster, what command do you wanna add? :s
[01:36] <goodgerster> SecrethX: I want it to type "/me pings bell\nanyone not being served" when I type "/pingbell"
[01:36] <Judicata> eegore: gnome-chm, and kchmviewer - hold on, and I'll give you the right package names
[01:36] <toM|vendettA> Hi, when i first start up my computer i get a black screen then a popup that says "Error: The greeter application has crashed, switching to default greeter", and then it shows the default login screen.
[01:36] <SecrethX> goodgerster, okay will try to make it :)
[01:36] <Arcad3> how to login as root
[01:36] <Arcad3> ?
[01:36] <goodgerster> Arcad3: there is no root.
[01:36] <zodiak> dimeo no it just repetes it right under
[01:36] <goodgerster> !sudo | Arcad3
[01:36] <ubotu> Arcad3: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:37] <zodiak> repeat*
[01:37] <Arcad3> :)
[01:37] <goodgerster> eisma: if you upgraded to edgy, all sorts of crap can go wrong... install ubuntu-desktop and refer to documentation concerning borked edgy upgrades
[01:37] <Arcad3> but im now LOGGED in as root
[01:37] <Judicata> eegore: "gnochm" , "kchmviewer" or "xchm"
[01:37] <Arcad3> how is that?
[01:37] <goodgerster> Arcad3: you typed "sudo -i", no doubt
[01:37] <Judicata> eegore: for some reason, kchmviewer is the only one that renders the pages properly for me, even though I prefer gtk apps.
[01:37] <Megatron> hello everyone
[01:37] <goodgerster> or did "sudo passwd root" to make a root account
[01:37] <goodgerster> !ask | Megatron
[01:37] <ubotu> Megatron: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:37] <Arcad3> i can remove / with my mouse this is not good
[01:38] <ubuntu> eternalswd cp -r* it say invalid options
[01:38] <sapage> Hello i cant seem to find a working source for FreenNX can anyone help
[01:38] <goodgerster> Arcad3: indeed not. just log out...
[01:38] <n2diy> ! Freenx
[01:38] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:38] <Megatron> could anyone help me?
[01:38] <eternalswd> ubuntu, need a space between -r and *
[01:38] <dimeo> !tremulous
[01:38] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB
[01:38] <goodgerster> !ask | megatron
[01:38] <ubotu> megatron: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <Arcad3> the it logs me back in as root
[01:38] <sapage> n2diy: i have been there but the source dont work
[01:38] <Arcad3> is good that sudo is not needed anymore
[01:39] <goodgerster> Arcad3: oo-er, you're screwed there. you're saying that you log in as you and you're root?
[01:39] <goodgerster> Arcad3: no, it's bad
[01:39] <Arcad3> yes
[01:39] <n2diy> sapage: yea, I'm seem to be having similiar trouble, let me double check though.
[01:39] <ubuntu> eternalswd Thanks man it work.
[01:39] <dimeo> arcad  thats about as secure as windows
[01:39] <eegore> gnochm?
[01:39] <Prisoner_> hi
[01:39] <sapage> the only one that resolves is the main and it times out
[01:39] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ill pay 5 dollars over paypal to any1 that gets my wpc11 working
[01:40] <Arcad3> is somwthong like that posible?
[01:40] <Arcad3> *something
[01:40] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i think so
[01:40] <Judicata> eegore: yes. but "kchmviewer" works better for me - you may have a different experience. you can also use xchm.
[01:40] <goodgerster> Arcad3: not usually, unless you've borked it severely
[01:40] <ineedhelpwithmyw> im an experienced windows user
[01:40] <zodiak> dimeo ispci: command not found
[01:40] <toM|vendettA> Hi, when i first start up my computer i get a black screen then a popup that says "Error: The greeter application has crashed, switching to default greeter", and then it shows the default login screen.
[01:40] <ineedhelpwithmyw> so i can take instructions
[01:40] <Megatron> ok my problem is: When I boot up the live CD, it suddenly freezes up while showing the loading bar ( the one moving right and left)
[01:40] <zodiak> lspci : command not found
[01:40] <idea> megatron: laptop?
[01:40] <Megatron> yes
[01:41] <Arcad3> wanna know how i did it?
[01:41] <idea> megatron: could be an incompatible subsystem there. thinkpad?
[01:41] <Megatron> aaah maybe
[01:41] <ineedhelpwithmyw> any1 willing to help me use ndiswrapper to get my pc card working?
[01:41] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ill pay 5 dollars over paypal
[01:41] <SecrethX> *
[01:41] <Megatron> idea> what should I do?
[01:41] <goodgerster> ineedhelpwithmyw: grep your GDM config before recompiling ndiswrapper. (don't. just demonstrating that windows skills are as useless to you here as they are to me)
[01:41] <idea> megatron: try another distro is my advice. maybe mepis..
[01:41] <ineedhelpwithmyw> lol ok
[01:42] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i have no idea what u said goodgerster
[01:42] <SecrethX> .
[01:42] <Judicata> idea: what's wrong with thinkpads? Best laptop experience I've had (esp. with linux).
[01:42] <eegore> is there a reader for ibooks out there?
[01:42] <goodgerster> ineedhelpwithmyw: precisely.
[01:42] <ineedhelpwithmyw> whats gdm config, and i dont get how to compile anything
[01:42] <Judicata> idea: that wasn't a challenge, but a serious question.
[01:42] <Judicata> eegore: I just gave you three.
[01:42] <Arcad3> restart xserver>sudo bash on the white on black console>starx -And u are logged in as root
[01:42] <idea> judicata: nothing wrong with em. just don't always boot into linux.. especially mine ;)
[01:42] <slipstream3d> Does FreeNX allow you to connect to existing desktops (like x11vnc) or does it create new sessions (like vncserver/tightvnc/whatever)?
[01:42] <zodiak> dimeo: what does that command do?
[01:42] <Judicata> idea: Really? which model?
[01:43] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, what ver wpc11?
[01:43] <Megatron> I have a Dell laptop sorry, I thought you said touchpad
[01:43] <goodgerster> Arcad3: yes, obviously.... I thought you mean it was logging you in as root without you asking. it's stupid, don't do it
[01:43] <maddog39> eegore: you mean ibooks as in the Apple laptop?
[01:43] <idea> judicata: t21. (with added mini-nic. which is the issue).
[01:43] <Arcad3> its good
[01:43] <goodgerster> Arcad3: no, it's bad.
[01:43] <Arcad3> no more sudo
[01:43] <Judicata> idea: ahh, ok. I just wanted to see, so I could stay away from a broken model on my next purchase :)
[01:43] <Megatron> idea> I managed to boot the live CD once, but can't anymore...
[01:43] <ineedhelpwithmyw> v4 eternal
[01:43] <goodgerster> Arcad3: so what happens when some idiot comes along and decides to delete /?
[01:44] <zodiak> aanyone using hp4900? laptop or has had success with broadcom adapters
[01:44] <slipstream3d> zodiak: i've got my broadcom working in my hp l2000
[01:44] <Enverex> goodgerster, Exactly the same as if they did "sudo rm -rf /" heh
[01:44] <Arcad3> ooke ur right
[01:44] <Prisoner_> people who delete are a pain in the but
[01:44] <Arcad3> thanks
[01:44] <goodgerster> Enverex: yes, but presumably they don't know the password that sudo then demands
[01:44] <idea> judicata: newer models i'm sure have built-in nic. and lenovo are now pre-installing linux. so all is good.
[01:44] <zodiak> slipstream what did u do?
[01:45] <I> Question: does ubuntu have live search?
[01:45] <ineedhelpwithmyw> im paying 10 dollars to whoever give me step-by-step detailed instructions setting up my wpc11 wireless pc card by today
[01:45] <Prisoner_> at a previous job an employee didn't have enough RAM so she started deleting files and deleted command.com from a dos box
[01:45] <goodgerster> I: depends on what you mean
[01:45] <slipstream3d> I use ndiswrapper, but not the version in ubuntu's repository: i used a newer version, and then i used some windows driver on an Acer web site
[01:45] <slipstream3d> then for actually connecting i use networkmanager
[01:45] <I> like spotlight
[01:45] <goodgerster> I, if you install beagle it does the same thing as spotlight
[01:45] <slipstream3d> I: that'd be beagle for gnome
[01:45] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170813&highlight=wpc11
[01:45] <belkin> do i need to be root to be able to install new perl modules ?
[01:45] <Judicata> idea: Yeah, but I don't think they're as pretty any more :( (no grey F buttons or stripes on the touchpad buttons, etc..).
[01:45] <goodgerster> *vouches for networkmanager*
[01:45] <I> oh isee
[01:46] <goodgerster> belkin: yeah, more or less
[01:46] <belkin> ok thanks
[01:46] <goodgerster> !sudo | belkin # sorry to patronise
[01:46] <ubotu> belkin # sorry to patronise: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:46] <zodiak> hhow do i get to network manager ( zodiak = noob)
[01:46] <goodgerster> zodiak: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[01:46] <slipstream3d> with the ndiswrapper version in the edgy repository as of about two days after edgy was released, my card simply refused to do anything
[01:47] <slipstream3d> i have no idea if it's been updated since then, since my manually-installed version works perfectly ;)
[01:47] <ifbermeo> i need some help
[01:47] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, first try "lsmod | grep r8180" from the terminal
[01:47] <goodgerster> !ask | ifbermeo
[01:47] <ubotu> ifbermeo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:47] <ifbermeo> k
[01:48] <ineedhelpwithmyw> whats the thing after lsmod
[01:48] <dimeo> !networkmanager
[01:48] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:48] <goodgerster> SecrethX: any progress on my meme shortcut? x-)
[01:48] <Megatron> ok bye
[01:48] <Enverex> Grr, the Icons for UT2004 and Alien Swarm appear on the "Other" rather than "Games" menu on the Gnome menu, any ideas why?
[01:48] <SecrethX> goodgerster, im trying ;P never tried something like this for XChat
[01:48] <goodgerster> SecrethX: cheers for the whole thing
[01:48] <SecrethX> if you would have asked me for mirc it would take me aprox 20 seconds lol :P
[01:48] <ifbermeo> I am having trouble with my av3715 laptop. I can't get my wireless card working. it is based on the rt2500 chipset. i am a newbie on the whole linux scene
[01:48] <goodgerster> meh, mirc
[01:49] <goodgerster> there's a sophisticated python API, btw.
[01:49] <zodiak> how can i tell if my wireless card is even found... my card doesnt light up
[01:49] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, it's a pipe symbol followed by grep command.  should shift key with the backslash to get that char
[01:49] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ya i did it
[01:49] <ineedhelpwithmyw> nothing happenned
[01:49] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i just got a new blank line
[01:50] <zodiak> where do i find network manager after i do apt get install
[01:50] <SecrethX> anyone not being served?
[01:50] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, okay, then follow that guide
[01:50] <SecrethX> aha :P
[01:50] <ifbermeo> i have tried the gui.
[01:50] <SecrethX> something like that?
[01:50] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i have no idea what any of that says
[01:50] <goodgerster> zodiak: please pay attention. I said "sudo apt-get install network-manager" ten minutes ago
[01:50] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yay! thanks
[01:50] <SecrethX> :) hold on
[01:50] <goodgerster> SecrethX: I shall hack it appropriately
[01:50] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i keep reading and just getting completely lost
[01:50] <zodiak> right how do i find it... i did that .... what do i do now
[01:50] <zodiak> ?
[01:50] <SecrethX> lol
[01:50] <belkin> how can i be all the time root in terminal without sudo ? something like su root doesnt work ?
[01:51] <goodgerster> zodiak: log in and out
[01:51] <goodgerster> sudo -i, belkin
[01:51] <riotkittie> belkin: sudo -i
[01:51] <belkin> goodgerster thank you
[01:51] <SecrethX> goodgerster, sudo gedit ~/.xchat/pingbell.pl
[01:51] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i need more detailed step-by-step instructions
[01:51] <SecrethX> then ill pastebin it
[01:51] <goodgerster> sudo?!
[01:51] <riotkittie> will open a root term at least
[01:51] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I know, one of my bad habits ;O
[01:52] <goodgerster> *omits sudo*
[01:52] <SecrethX> :P
[01:52] <ineedhelpwithmyw> wait actually eternal
[01:52] <kitche>  /join #kernel
[01:52] <tuxedup> I am after getting my self a notebook/laptop, but I am unsire about brnads, I have looked at linux-laptop.net, but can anyone reccomend a brnad that seems to have consitently good support in Linux, mainly the acpi related stuff e.f. fans and cooling
[01:52] <ineedhelpwithmyw> that command u made me do with the lsmod and grep
[01:52] <goodgerster> I symapthise, I can't count the times I've typed "sudo gedit /etc/...."
[01:52] <ineedhelpwithmyw> it made the link light on my wpc11 go on
[01:52] <zodiak> goodgerster i am really new to this linux thing... i dont know where network manager is
[01:52] <mmdollar> Judicata: are you here? :)
[01:53] <goodgerster> zodiak: log in and out, you'll get a handy icon in your notification area
[01:53] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, okay, all those things in the Code: blocks are commands you can just run on the terminal
[01:53] <ifbermeo> can anyone help me get my wireless card to work?
[01:53] <SecrethX> goodgerster, saw your pm?
[01:53] <goodgerster> ah, yes. thaks
[01:53] <SecrethX> k
[01:53] <bulmer> ifbermeo: what you got and how is it setup now?
[01:53] <ineedhelpwithmyw> so what commands do i need to do to get my wireless card working?
[01:53] <goodgerster> eek
[01:53] <high-freq> bah is there a default make command after install?
[01:54] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, just select the text and it will copy to the selection buffer, then middle click in the terminal to paste it
[01:54] <zodiak> goodgerster .... its not there
[01:54] <goodgerster> pressed "close" instead of copy
[01:54] <jrib> !make | high-freq
[01:54] <ubotu> high-freq: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:54] <ineedhelpwithmyw> which text?
[01:54] <brandonbl79> i am on a dual boot system with linux and windows for awhile now, and now i can't get windows to boot up at all, with last configuration or safe mode.  Is there a resource that i can troubleshoot, as i believe it's a conflict with UBuntu, Grub, and windows
[01:54] <high-freq> kew
[01:54] <high-freq> thx
[01:54] <goodgerster> zodiak: you logged out and in?
[01:54] <zodiak> yah
[01:54] <SecrethX> hahaha :P
[01:54] <goodgerster> SecrethX: please do it again, sorry
[01:54] <SecrethX> np
[01:54] <mmdollar> can someone tell me how to mount a partition on the root filesystem?
[01:54] <riotkittie> how would Ubuntu conflict with Windows?
[01:55] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, first command is "sudo apt-get install cvs"  which will ask for your password before continuing
[01:55] <goodgerster> riotkittie: it doesn't except for highly specialised situations involving BIOS borkage
[01:55] <bulmer> mmdollar: you create a directory under /   then mount your hard disk to i
[01:55] <brandonbl79> i have them both installed on the same hard drive.  not sure, more likely the grub and the dual boot
[01:55] <SecrethX> goodgerster, after you save it
[01:55] <OrangeOrange> i have to dl codec to play mp3 files for programs from ubuntu such as amarok , rhutym box?
[01:55] <SecrethX> type:
[01:55] <SecrethX> type: /load pingbell.pl
[01:55] <kitche> !lame|OrangeOrange
[01:55] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[01:55] <goodgerster> can't save it for some reason
[01:56] <riotkittie> brandonbl79:  if grub's booting to Windows loader,  i cant imagine GRUB is the issue.
[01:56] <ineedhelpwithmyw> its installing some packages eternal
[01:56] <OrangeOrange> but i cant play my mp3 player..
[01:56] <OrangeOrange> my mp3 with those players
[01:56] <brandonbl79> then it's prob a windows issue.   damn
[01:56] <zodiak> goodgerster... is there somehere like in the program list
[01:56] <kitche> OrangeOrange: you need lame
[01:56] <riotkittie> Surely, when you attempt to boot Win in safe mode, you are getting an error message of some sort?
[01:56] <brandonbl79> i was hoping for an easy solution
[01:56] <OrangeOrange> wow .. ok
[01:56] <Yumi`> Reuh les dindons
[01:56] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok its done doing that eternal
[01:56] <goodgerster> ah, it's xchat2
[01:57] <OrangeOrange> amarok really sucks -- 10mb-ish  and no codec is with it ..
[01:57] <mmdollar> bulmer: mount /dev/sda3 / ,right?
[01:57] <SecrethX> goodgerster, my bad, xchat2
[01:57] <SecrethX> ah you saw it ;O
[01:57] <kitche> OrangeOrange: lame isn't installed by default on ubuntu due to patent issues and copyright and such
[01:57] <OrangeOrange> o i c
[01:57] <bulmer> mmdollar: you create a directory under /   then mount your partition   mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /createddir
[01:57] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, next command is "sudo apt-get install build-essential"  which will not ask for your password since sudo just cached its permissions
[01:57] <ifbermeo> i have an averatec laptop with a rt2500 pci card. i am running dapper. i have tried the gui. i have also tried to download the drivers and build them up as per the ubuntu forum's instructions. i get errors when i try to compile these. i can see the card listed when i run lspci, ifconfig and iwconfig. sometimes my keyboard stops working when i use the gui to try and activate this device.
[01:58] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ya i just did that
[01:58] <OrangeOrange> btw i isntall some sftp program
[01:58] <OrangeOrange> but its not in any of my menu
[01:58] <OrangeOrange> how can i find it?
[01:58] <ineedhelpwithmyw> now do i do the next command on that site eternal?
[01:58] <ineedhelpwithmyw> idk what hes talkin about with the download he forgot about
[01:58] <kitche> OrangeOrange: if it's sftp then it's cli
[01:59] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[01:59] <goodgerster> yay!
[01:59] <bulmer> ifbermeo: check if there are any IRQ conflicts, seems like you have one of those..then re-assign the irq
[01:59] <SecrethX> :p
[01:59] <OrangeOrange> kitche: wat u mean cli?
[01:59] <kitche> OrangeOrange: command line
[01:59] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, yeah, if there are problems along the way, we'll deal with them
[01:59] <riotkittie> Command Line Interface
[01:59] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[01:59] <zodiak> goodgerster: is there some where else i can find it like in the progra,
[01:59] <SecrethX> goodgerster, its actually quite easy if you know it ;O
[01:59] <zodiak> program*
[01:59] <nfp|kelnoky> So I have created a new partition and mounted it but cant access it cause only root got rights there. how to change that?
[01:59] <kitche> OrangeOrange: there is gui ftp programs that does sftp also
[01:59] <ifbermeo> Bulmer: i don't know how to do that?
[01:59] <SecrethX> np dude, you helped me out too ;P
[01:59] <goodgerster> zodiak: no, it loads with your sessio
[01:59] <goodgerster> log out and in, it will be there
[02:00] <Werdna> hey hey
[02:00] <Peter_G> Hello all!  How is going today?
[02:00] <phixnay> !rar
[02:00] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:00] <zodiak> anyone using hp4900? laptop or has had success with broadcom adapters
[02:00] <OrangeOrange> kitche: wat would that be?
[02:00] <slipstream3d> as far as i know, gnome can do sftp if you just tell it to connect to a network share
[02:00] <bulmer> ifbermeo: google for "how to resolve irq conflict"
[02:00] <ifbermeo> k
[02:00] <Dame> Is there any karamba-like app for GNOME?
[02:00] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i pressed enter when it asked for a password
[02:00] <ineedhelpwithmyw> like it said to do, but now its just hanging
[02:01] <kitche> OrangeOrange: I believe gftp can I don't use sftp myself so I haven't really looked
[02:02] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[02:02] <goodgerster> oh, yeah.
[02:02] <OrangeOrange> kitche: gftp is a ftp client does t that mean it do sftp?
[02:02] <SecrethX> lol
[02:02] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, okay, hold on, the post is a little old, so the command may have changed, let me check.
[02:02] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[02:02] <zodiak> dimeo
[02:02] <Peter_G> I have an odd question about running Windows programs under Ubuntu, with a program like Cedega or CrossOver office.  Can any answer some general questions?  No tech support, just looking at what I might want to get, and would like some recommendations.
[02:02] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I love you
[02:02] <kitche> Dame: OrangeOrange sftp is secure ftp some ftp programs can do secure ftp also
[02:02] <goodgerster> !ask
[02:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:02] <OrangeOrange> OOh ok
[02:02] <goodgerster> SecrethX: excellent
[02:02] <OrangeOrange> sorry
[02:02] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I added every option and set it to maximum now my boxes work :D
[02:03] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yay
[02:03] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: so what's the trouble?
[02:03] <OrangeOrange> kitche: me noob.. i thought it some other protocol stuff.. beside
[02:03] <Dame> !karamba
[02:03] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[02:03] <OrangeOrange> kitche: do u know any tex editor that aslo do java compiling?
[02:03] <Peter_G> Gotcha, just trying to be polite.  Here's the short version.  I have a few Windows games that I would like to run under Linux.  They're casual games, like Diner Dash.  Cedega is a bit hit and miss with running it.  How are CrossOver office, Win4Lin, and VMWare for running Win programs under Linux?
[02:03] <nfp|kelnoky> So I have created a new partition and mounted it but cant access it cause only root got rights there. how to change that?
[02:03] <blackie> jedit
[02:04] <zodiak> aanyone using hp4900? laptop or has had success with broadcom adapters
[02:04] <kitche> OrangeOrange: any java ide pretty much
[02:04] <belkin> what the remove command for a directory ? with all his files
[02:04] <belkin> rm what ?
[02:04] <bulmer> -rf
[02:04] <blackie> rm -rf
[02:04] <HymnToLife> Peter_G, vmware is the way to go if your games are not 3D-intensive
[02:04] <belkin> ok thanks
[02:04] <goodgerster> Peter_G: wine is generally very good. all the rest are based on it, but due to an obscure licensing thing they are now worse than it
[02:04] <slipstream3d> peter_g: vmware will be pretty consistent; but it requires you to install and boot an entire windows image
[02:04] <blackie> you could do rm -rf /
[02:04] <blackie> thats always fun :-)
[02:04] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, correct  command should be " cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@rtl8180-sa2400.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rtl8180-sa2400 login"
[02:04] <pramz> HymnToLife: what games would you recommend be run in vmware ?
[02:05] <SecrethX> goodgerster, do you know something about beryl? :o
[02:05] <goodgerster> Peter_G: for instance, cedega is quite good at games, being the first to implement directx. but now wine does it better
[02:05] <HymnToLife> !kidding | blackie
[02:05] <ubotu> blackie: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[02:05] <marcio> oi
[02:05] <slipstream3d> wine is a bit of a pain in the arse to get working, but the programs run "in" linux instead of in a virtual machine
[02:05] <blackie> arg ok ok
[02:05] <slowfast> I cannot seem to get network-manager-gnome to work.  I cannot find nm-applet on any menu and when I type it on the command line in a terminal, nothing happens.  Any ideas?
[02:05] <goodgerster> SecrethX: yeah, I know it's a nice toy for about five minutes
[02:05] <pramz> HymnToLife: considering that cedega is actually cheaper than VMWare workstation and has 3d support if your video card does
[02:05] <Crapon> has anyone here installed Ubuntu on an Acer ASpire 5050?
[02:05] <HymnToLife> pramz, as I said, anything that doesn't require heavy 3D accel
[02:05] <Peter_G> I have always had trouble getting Wine to run.  Running VMWare might be fine, I have a licensed version of WinXP I haven't used in a couple of years.
[02:05] <goodgerster> slowfast: you need to run it as root
[02:05] <Judicata> nfp|kelnoky: Has someone answered you yet?
[02:05] <slowfast> I have tried that!!
[02:05] <pramz> HymnToLife: not many games released in the past 8 years which does not use 3d in some form or another
[02:06] <knewt> don't suppose anyone has done a backport of mono 1.2 to breezy?
[02:06] <goodgerster> Peter_G: hmmmmm. vmware might be ok
[02:06] <HymnToLife> pramz, vmware server is free (as in free beer), so that might be even better
[02:06] <SecrethX> goodgerster, lol I just cant get it to work, always says "beryl: No composite extension"
[02:06] <OrangeOrange> hmm closed while not noticing it.. haha
[02:06] <Peter_G> Well, I see Cedega runs a lot of popular games, but the only ones on the list I really run are City Of Heroes and, for some irony, Halo.  I dropped EverQuest when Sony monkeyed with the CD's.
[02:06] <goodgerster> knewt: no, that'd be useless as nobody is meant to use breezy. upgrade to dapper or edgy
[02:06] <slipstream3d> pramz: lots of little games like bejeweled and stuff work with just 2d acceleration
[02:06] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, next command should be " cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@rtl8180-sa2400.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rtl8180-sa2400 co -P rtl8180-sa2400-dev"
[02:06] <slowfast> goodgerster:  I have tried that.
[02:06] <pramz> slipstream3d: yes, but there are equivalent linux versions of those type of games
[02:06] <kitche> Peter_G: Halo doesn't run with cedega at least not great
[02:06] <Crapon> Has anyone her gotten a Broadcom 4318 wireless network card to work in ubuntu>
[02:07] <zodiak> any one use HP laptop?
[02:07] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok thats done
[02:07] <HymnToLife> !anyone | zodiak
[02:07] <ubotu> zodiak: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:07] <ineedhelpwithmyw> now what
[02:07] <goodgerster> peter, hmm
[02:07] <knewt> goodgerster: i'm just being incredibly lazy, since i have only 39 megs of free space on my /
[02:07] <Peter_G> Do you mind if I ask what is needed for 3D acceleration?  The reason I ask is a guy in my LUG once told me that a fast enough processor can do the 3D processing, assuming the game isn't that intensive.  I'm not sure I believe him.
[02:07] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, now it should be "cd rtl8180-sa2400-dev"
[02:07] <goodgerster> knewt: well, installing mono 1.2 will use that up
[02:08] <slipstream3d> wow, 39mb... i haven't had that little free space since like, 1994
[02:08] <zodiak> has anyone had sucess with broadcom drivers
[02:08] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[02:08] <HymnToLife> Peter_G, yep, he's right
[02:08] <SecrethX> goodgerster, I found out that Composite was disabled in xorg.conf ;P brb X reboot :)
[02:08] <ineedhelpwithmyw> did that
[02:08] <kitche> Peter_G: a card that does 3d acceleration battlefield 2 is more cpu intensive then card intensive
[02:08] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, next command "make"
[02:08] <ineedhelpwithmyw> not sudo make?
[02:08] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, no
[02:08] <slipstream3d> peter_g: it sounds like he's talking about software rendering, which is ugly and slow
[02:08] <OrangeOrange> is there anyway to use win without cli?
[02:08] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[02:09] <HymnToLife> you'll do sudo make install afterwards
[02:09] <goodgerster> Peter_G: you need a 3d accelerator card, which has been standard in computers since 2000. without one, the processor will indeed try and do the 3d stuff, and it will scream at you for it
[02:09] <slipstream3d> and hardly any games support it anymore (they'll usually just crash)
[02:09] <riotkittie> wow. and i thought my 273MB free was sad
[02:09] <knewt> slipstream3d: yeah, well, my / is, right now, only 4 gigs in size. i need to rationalize loads of stuff off the other volumes on this box, at which point a wipe&reinstall is on the cards
[02:09] <pramz> slipstream3d: heh talking about software rendering, i remember the voxel engine by novalogic in the mid 90s, amazing effects for a software renderer
[02:09] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok its done but it says *** [2.6]  Error 2
[02:09] <pramz> knewt: whats your total HD space ?
[02:09] <ineedhelpwithmyw> on the last line
[02:09] <nfp|kelnoky> So I have created a new partition and mounted it but cant access it cause only root got rights there. how to change that?
[02:09] <slipstream3d> bwhaha, voxels... man, i remember the buzz about that back in the day
[02:09] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, what are you trying to build, anyway ?
[02:10] <pramz> knewt: my / is 2.0Gb
[02:10] <ineedhelpwithmyw> im trying to get my wpc11 wireless card working
[02:10] <goodgerster> Peter_G: you almost certainly already have a 3d card, but the driver is important also. have you any idea what it is?
[02:10] <slipstream3d> triangle polygons won :D
[02:10] <goodgerster> pramz: good grief
[02:10] <Peter_G> My box is a 1.67G AMD 32-bit.  So, in theory, I can install VMWare without 3D support, and an older program like, say, Frogger 2 (7 years old, I believe) and have a reasonable shot at it running.  Or am I off base here?
[02:10] <pramz> though i have a 60Gb drive.
[02:10] <knewt> pramz: 56, of which 5 currently unassigned to anything
[02:10] <Peter_G> The 3D card is an ATI Radeon 8500.
[02:10] <pramz> i have everything else on different filesystems
[02:10] <kitche> nfp|kelnoky: you can use umask to allow users to use that partition or you can add user to your fstab for that partition
[02:10] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, which chip is that ?
[02:10] <slipstream3d> i think frogger 2 uses 3d acceleration, vmware doesn't support 3d acceleration at all
[02:10] <ineedhelpwithmyw> realtek
[02:10] <pramz> knewt: sorry, what was your HD size again?
[02:10] <eternalswd> HymnToLife it's a rtl8180
[02:10] <ironnikki> hey guys im new to linux and decided to try out edgy, the 32 bit on the live cd, but when i try to boot with it, the screen freezes up. any ideas?
[02:10] <knewt> 56 (aka, a 60 gig drive)
[02:11] <goodgerster> Peter_G: right... well, linux 3d support will be achieved by installing fglrx. frogger 2 doesn't need any 3d stuff, and should run perfectly
[02:11] <pramz> knewt: ahh, how come your / has little disk space left ?
[02:11] <Dame> !gdesklets
[02:11] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[02:11] <pramz> !hug
[02:11] <Peter_G> I'm kind of an old school gamer, not a lot of current titles thrill me.  ;-)
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <knewt> pramz: because a good portion of my /home is also on it
[02:11] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ive tried to follow a bunch of howtos and stuff but havent been successful
[02:11] <pramz> Peter_G: heh i hear ya man. Ive been playing Larry 5 on dosbox
[02:11] <goodgerster> vmware is not like wine. wine translates to linux's language and linux then communicates with the processor, but vmware just communicates with the processor
[02:12] <goodgerster> pramz: Apogee rules.
[02:12] <pramz> knewt: ahh thats why. I always recommend /home to be on a different filesystem
[02:12] <Peter_G> Hey, can the original Sam And Max work on DosBox?  I haven't played it in years.
[02:12] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i installed ndiswrapper in synaptic
[02:12] <pramz> goodgerster: larry 5 is by Sierra but I like some apogee games like Blake Stone
[02:12] <ineedhelpwithmyw> thats pretty much the only real progress ive made at all
[02:12] <goodgerster> Peter_G: Sam and Max Hit The Road? it should run AFAIK
[02:12] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, which ubuntu do you have?
[02:12] <goodgerster> pramz: I know
[02:12] <Peter_G> I'm going to have to try that, then.
[02:12] <ineedhelpwithmyw> the latest one
[02:12] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i downloaded it today
[02:12] <goodgerster> Peter_G: see the various documentations on making games run properly
[02:13] <pramz> knewt: /home should be on a different filesystem because if you ever decide to redo your machine again, your data can be kept seperately from other filesystems which can be formatted
[02:13] <ineedhelpwithmyw> after i read a forum saying that wpc11 works well with ubuntu
[02:13] <ironnikki> hey guys im new to linux and decided to try out edgy, the 32 bit on the live cd, but when i try to boot with it, the screen freezes up. any ideas?
[02:13] <HymnToLife> eternalswd, you won't need ndiswrapper, there's a Linux driver available from Realtek
[02:13] <goodgerster> ironnikki: try with the various safe modes available, then try the alternate cd
[02:13] <ctothej> ironnikki: what part of the boot process?
[02:13] <eternalswd> HymnToLife, yeah, we're working on building the modules.
[02:13] <Peter_G> I just get a bit bored with all the games released currently.  Lots of fps and sports games.  That could be why I enjoy  Diner Dash so much.  PlayFirst needs to make a Linux version of it.
[02:13] <ctothej> ironnikki: what screen?
[02:13] <ineedhelpwithmyw> so whats the next command i gotta use?
[02:13] <ironnikki> with the ubuntu logo and the orange bar scrolling back and forth
[02:14] <ironnikki> goodgerster: i tried all of them, they all freeze at the same place
[02:14] <goodgerster> Peter_G: there's a fair few games with ubuntu, check out supertux and planetpenguin-racer
[02:14] <riotkittie> isnt there a easy to follow tutorial regarding ndiswrapper?
[02:14] <goodgerster> ironnikki: the alternate cd freezes?
[02:14] <OrangeOrange> do anyone know a java programming channel?
[02:14] <Peter_G> Hey...VMware runs a full Windows system within Linux, right?  Desktop and all.  Is Windows still sandboxed to protect my system against cracking attacks?
[02:14] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, we need to figure out what library you're missing so that it builds successfully
[02:14] <goodgerster> Peter_G: supertux is basically mario
[02:14] <riotkittie> ironnikki: is it a complete lockup ??
[02:14] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[02:14] <yumi> reuh les dindons
[02:14] <knewt> goodgerster: just of out curiosity, if i was to try and just upgrade over (after freeing some disk space), how well would an upgrade from breezy to, say, edgy, go on a system where i've ripped out most of the gnome stuff, and neither ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-standard are present any more?
[02:14] <HymnToLife> Peter_G, if your VM gets attacked, it will be harmless to the host sytem
[02:15] <ironnikki> goodgerster: i havent tried it yet because i wasnt sure if i could just run it off of the cd; can it do that? i dont want to install yet until i try it out
[02:15] <Peter_G> I've played SuperTux.  It's not bad.  My favorite freebie game is Pingus.
[02:15] <ineedhelpwithmyw> how do i find out what libraries i need and what libraries i have?
[02:15] <goodgerster> Peter_G: yeah, think of it as the matrix, with windows as a human and vmware as the plugs
[02:15] <ctothej> ironnikki: you need to run the installer without the quiet option so you can see what it is getting stuck on.
[02:15] <riotkittie> ok. lets talk about x, xinerama and cloning screens :D
[02:15] <Dutch-Xu> hey peepz
[02:16] <|Jason8|> This is probably a stupid question, but what's the command to install a program?
[02:16] <goodgerster> ironnikki: yes, the livecd lets you run without installing
[02:16] <OrangeOrange> anyone know how to get LAME? try googling LAME UBUNTU but poor results
[02:16] <goodgerster> |Jason8|: sudo synaptic
[02:16] <|Jason8|> cool, thanks
[02:16] <Peter_G> Which versio do I look for?  I saw a Server version and an Application version.
[02:16] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: use synaptic to search for it
[02:16] <ironnikki> ctothej: ok ill try that and see what happens goodgerster: ill download the alternate version when i get back thanks guys ill let you know
[02:16] <goodgerster> Peter_G: I don't know, really
[02:16] <Dutch-Xu> how do I enable DMA on my dvd-drive in (X)ubuntu?
[02:16] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, did you get the driver from Realtek's website ?
[02:16] <ctothej> k. we'll be here
[02:17] <ircleuser> hey everyone...does anyone know how I could figured out why Egy isnt recognizing my USB networkcard as being plugged in?
[02:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> yes
[02:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i tried doing some things with it
[02:17] <goodgerster> Dutch-Xu: it should be enabled already, but you can google "DMA linux" to find that out
[02:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> but none of them worked
[02:17] <riotkittie> I dowloaded VMware server. but i didnt have the space to install it. hee.
[02:17] <goodgerster> ircleuser: it's likely that ubuntu doesn't have a driver for it
[02:17] <HymnToLife> what if you just cd to the extracted dir and run make ?
[02:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> it was the driver for fedora
[02:17] <SecrethX> goodgerster, im already sick and tired of beryl and I didnt even get it to work..
[02:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> it doesnt work
[02:17] <goodgerster> HymnToLife: then it will compile it, then you need to run sudo make install
[02:17] <goodgerster> SecrethX: just avoid it
[02:17] <yumi> f
[02:17] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster: i dont have any package listed as "LAME" but i have toolame
[02:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> is not able to do something
[02:18] <Peter_G> Well, I have about 30G available on my hard disk.  I HOPE I have room to install it!
[02:18] <ircleuser> theres a post on the ubuntu forms about using ndiswrapper to install the exact same card as mine..but for dapper drake...could i pursue that way you tihkn?
[02:18] <bradley> i just reinstalled ubuntu but i have my /home partitioned. how do i reconnect all the apps that i have i /home, or do i have to redownload them all? is the stuff in /home just settings?
[02:18] <g485180> bye
[02:18] <SecrethX> goodgerster, it just looked so cool ^^
[02:18] <goodgerster> SecrethX: until at least feisty+1
[02:18] <Peter_G> You never know about some applications.
[02:18] <SecrethX> goodgerster,  ok :P
[02:18] <riotkittie> Peter_G: i had about 400mb at the time :P
[02:18] <ineedhelpwithmyw> everything i did was real shaky, i have no idea where a lota things are
[02:18] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i need to just start over
[02:18] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: you need to enable Universe and multiver
[02:18] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, can't help you much with it as I'm not on my Linux right now, sorry
[02:18] <n2diy_> I just grabbed Freenx, installed it via synaptic, added my user, and passwd, now, how do I fire it up?
[02:18] <goodgerster> !universe | OrangeOrange
[02:18] <ubotu> OrangeOrange: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:18] <Peter_G> notkittie: Wow.
[02:18] <kitche> bradley: most things in /home are settings for the user unless you installed apps in it
[02:18] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[02:18] <psyke83> hi, can someone with the nvidia driver visit this page please, to check 2d scrolling speed? is it very slow for you? http://thor.auto.tuwien.ac.at/~rlieger/JavaScript/Info1-2.Uebungstest/Info2.html
[02:18] <HymnToLife> I guess you could try ndiswrapper for a low-hassle way to get it working
[02:19] <ineedhelpwithmyw> anyone else here that can help me?
[02:19] <goodgerster> psyke83: checking now
[02:19] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster: to enable it , go to software option right? everything is check except the Backport.. enable that?
[02:19] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ill pay 10 bucks over paypal
[02:19] <riotkittie> yeah, my laptop has a 11gb drive and a triple boot. :\
[02:19] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, where exactly did it fail?
[02:19] <cypruser> What good games are there fro Linux?
[02:19] <cypruser> for*
[02:19] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: yeah
[02:19] <eternalswd> ineedhelpwithmyw, what came before that error in make?
[02:19] <HymnToLife> cypruser, what kind of games ?
[02:19] <ineedhelpwithmyw> errrors happen sometimes its a specific file
[02:19] <Peter_G> notkittie:  What all are you running on it?  I'm familiar with dual boots, but a triple?  What have you got under the hood?
[02:20] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i forgot where i even downloaded it
[02:20] <goodgerster> hmm, someone asked me about an upgrade to edgy having removed gnome
[02:20] <riotkittie> oh man. PuTTY is killing my eyes. stupid font.
[02:20] <youser> hey i lost control of my system volume through my volume control in panel now i cant get as much sound asi used to, anyone know why?
[02:20] <bradley> kitche, so, generally, all my apps will have to be redownloaded but when i redownload them my settings are saved?
[02:20] <ineedhelpwithmyw> h/o ill redownload the driver and try going to the directory and doing make again
[02:20] <goodgerster> the answer to that is: it may bork, or it may not
[02:20] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, www.realtek.com.tw
[02:20] <kitche> bradley: well yes if the apps you had used /home
[02:20] <psyke83> goodgerster, did you check the page?
[02:20] <goodgerster> psyke83: it won't open
[02:21] <riotkittie> Peter_G: Ubuntu 6.06, Zenwalk 4.2 and Win2k ... but the latter is being removed as soon as i find the motivation to toy with my partitions
[02:21] <goodgerster> here we are..
[02:21] <Dame> Ubuntu edgy feels good!
[02:21] <ineedhelpwithmyw> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8180L
[02:21] <ineedhelpwithmyw> thats the one i need right?
[02:21] <goodgerster> Dame: I'm glad you think so. if you're using en-uk, I worked on it
[02:21] <ineedhelpwithmyw> fer kernel 2.6.x
[02:21] <Crapon> Has anyone here gotten a Broadcom 4318 wireless network card to work in ubuntu?
[02:21] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, I suppose so
[02:21] <goodgerster> thingummy, it scrolls fine
[02:21] <Peter_G> notkittie:  Does running Bell Labs' "Plan 9" off a live CD qualify me for a triple boot?
[02:21] <bradley> kitche, there are a lot of folders that are the names of apps such as .abiword (with the period in front of it) that are hidden but none of the apps work.
[02:22] <Dame> goodgerster, how can I check did I use en-uk?
[02:22] <goodgerster> bradley: that's your user data
[02:22] <Jedrick> !upgrade
[02:22] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:22] <kitche> bradley: those are just settings
[02:22] <goodgerster> Dame: on the login screen there's a language selector... basically, you can choose to use UK English. I worked on that
[02:22] <bradley> kitche, but i reinstalled xchat and my font choice seems to be remembered.
[02:22] <cypruser> HymnToLife: Any kind of games as long as they're not violent,
[02:22] <bradley> kitche, right, settings. okay.
[02:22] <goodgerster> bradley: yes, they're stored in ~/.folders
[02:23] <OrangeOrange> kitche: ok i did wat u said.. but i stil lcant find it in synaptic
[02:23] <goodgerster> cypruser: good games include supertux and planetpenguin-racer
[02:23] <HymnToLife> frozen-bubble too
[02:23] <HymnToLife> I also like armagetron
[02:23] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: it was me, and it's in there somewhere
[02:23] <OrangeOrange> ooops
[02:23] <OrangeOrange> haha
[02:23] <HymnToLife> but my favs are openarena and neverwinter nights but they fail the requirement I guess
[02:23] <bradley> kitche, thanks.
[02:24] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster: ermm what is ur listed as?  the cloest one is "toolame" which is mpeg 1 layer 2 audio encoding
[02:24] <Dame> goodgerster, I use Macedonian language. Im sure en-uk is just good as macedonian :)
[02:24] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster: "tooLAME"
[02:24] <goodgerster> Dame: well, I don't speak macedonian; otherwise, you'd be using my work on there also :)
[02:25] <moniker42> hi, for some reason once i've installed wine .wine isn't showing up in ~
[02:25] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: I get about thirty results for that
[02:25] <goodgerster> moniker42: you need to run wine
[02:25] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[02:25] <moniker42> goodgerster, i did that
[02:26] <goodgerster> moniker42: ran, or installed?
[02:26] <moniker42> installed then ran
[02:26] <goodgerster> with sudo?
[02:27] <goodgerster> it looks for ~/.wine and creates it if it's not there. ~ is /root if you use sudo
[02:27] <SecrethX> man I love celestia
[02:27] <moniker42> yup
[02:27] <Alarm> hey. i just installed automatix. but somehow i dont see something that special as everyone says. i just see a few applications available to install less than 100 (compared to adept_manager ) that are listed more than 20.000 packages from the repos
[02:27] <Alarm> what should i change ?
[02:27] <goodgerster> Alarm: automatix?
[02:27] <youser> anyone know why i would have lost y volume control?
[02:27] <Alarm> yes
[02:27] <terapicodave> how do i set firefox to open when I click on a link in kopete?
[02:27] <zodiak> how can i tell what chipset my wireless is ...
[02:27] <goodgerster> Alarm: that was silly
[02:27] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, u wana see the errors?
[02:27] <riotkittie> moniker42:  are you doing ls -a ? .directories are hidden
[02:27] <Alarm> why ?
[02:27] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster:  can i get it via cli?
[02:27] <goodgerster> terapicodave: see #kubuntu
[02:27] <riotkittie> unlike directories
[02:27] <moniker42> riotkittie, not sure what you mean...
[02:28] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: not really
[02:28] <n2diy_> ! nx client
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nx client - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, yep
[02:28] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster:  damn i cant play music X<
[02:28] <SecrethX> im off - see ya tomorrow
[02:28] <ineedhelpwithmyw> should i just paste it in here?
[02:28] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[02:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:28] <kevum> Dapper has a buggy version of 'dialog'. It's been updated in Debian testing and unstable. Can anyone tell me when it will be updated in Dapper?
[02:28] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: yes you can, it's got nothing to do with lame. what program are you sing?
[02:28] <ctothej> !pastebin | ineedhelpwithmyw
[02:28] <ubotu> ineedhelpwithmyw: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:28] <n2diy_> Any suggestions as to what nx client to use with Dapper?
[02:29] <kitche> kevum: probably is updated already
[02:29] <moniker42> riotkittie, oh - yeah. i displayed hidden files but .wine is not there
[02:29] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster:  amarok ... didnt work.. so i try rhymbox.. no work agian
[02:29] <goodgerster> kevum: it will likely not be updated in dapper; you need to upgrade to edgy
[02:29] <moniker42> goodgerster, any idea why ~/.wine would not be there?
[02:29] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster:  i guess i shud go wine+winamp.. but wine is cli.. and i dont know the commands for it.. it seem to stick with C:\system32
[02:29] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: amarok is shite. rhythmbox depends upon gstreamer... search for that in synaptic and install all plugins you can find
[02:29] <nn531> i really like the bittorrent client provided by ubuntu but it has problems with the tracker.. can anyone suggest a better client?
[02:29] <youser> any help how i could get my volume control  back?
[02:30] <goodgerster> moniker42: did you run it with sudo?
[02:30] <youser> volume in xmms works fine
[02:30] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster: wat ur recommended player? \
[02:30] <elcasey> nn531: azureus
[02:30] <zodiak> goodgerster how can i tell which broadcom i have?
[02:30] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: rhythmbox
[02:30] <youser> its like i lost some sound power
[02:30] <riotkittie> urgh. enough of this, back to my laptop
[02:30] <Judicata> goodgerster: Amarok is great if you like a bunch of features. Exaile is also a good alternative.
[02:30] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2355/
[02:30] <goodgerster> zodiak: look on the box
[02:30] <kevum> But Dapper is still supported. Why wouldn't they update dialog?
[02:30] <nn531> elcasey:  is ther a sudo apt-get install thing for it?
[02:30] <goodgerster> Judicata: amarok is great if you like Qt and bloat
[02:30] <eternalswd> OrangeOrange, I'm using amarok just fine right now.  It kicks rhythmbox
[02:30] <goodgerster> kevum: is it a security flaw?
[02:31] <kevum> It looks like it could be, but I don't know for sure. It seems to allow a heap overflow.
[02:31] <goodgerster> nn531: I use uTorrent under wine
[02:31] <OrangeOrange> eternalswd: but it wont work for me
[02:31] <zodiak> goodgerster its a laptop
[02:31] <Frant|C> why is my sound so low with ubuntu ??
[02:31] <goodgerster> zodiak: look in the manual
[02:31] <belkin> how do i create a directory and a subdirectory in one command ?
[02:31] <OrangeOrange> Frant|C: use the volume applet?
[02:31] <youser> i used to have right loud sound
[02:31] <goodgerster> kevum: if it's a security flaw, it will be updated. otherwise it won't.. this is what "supported" means
[02:31] <eternalswd> OrangeOrange, is it not playing music, is it not starting?  what's the problem exactly?
[02:32] <nn531> goodgerster: i dont know anything about wine
[02:32] <Judicata> OrangeOrange: Try out exaile! as well, (I like it better than Rhythmbox, and it uses gtk, but has many of Amarok's features).
[02:32] <belkin> mkdir ~dic/subdir ?
[02:32] <moniker42> goodgerster, yea i ran it with sudo want me to paste what it said?
[02:32] <kevum> That makes some sense goodgerster. Any thoughts on how to determine if it's a security flaw or not?
[02:32] <HymnToLife> belkin, I don't think it's doable
[02:32] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, does that help at all?
[02:32] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: did you see the thing I said about gstreamer I said?
[02:32] <OrangeOrange> Frant|C:  wont play the file... and everytime it seems like its gonna play (WITH THE BLUE POPUP OF THE SONG NAME) and doesnt do shit... i wanan bash it so bad
[02:32] <zodiak> dont have the manual
[02:32] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, that sounds like you need to add something after make
[02:32] <belkin> HymnToLife it is, i just forgot the command :)
[02:32] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster: yes
[02:32] <goodgerster> kevum: not really, sorry. I suppose you could report it as a bug and see if anyone updates it
[02:33] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: did you do it?
[02:33] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, what should i add?
[02:33] <HymnToLife> I'm downloading the driver to see if reading the Makefile helps
[02:33] <HymnToLife> that's what I'm trying to find out :p
[02:33] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok cool
[02:33] <goodgerster> zodiak: well, look on the website for your laptop
[02:33] <kevum> goodgerster, that makes sense. I'll look into filing it.
[02:33] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster: its working now
[02:33] <ironnikki> i was just in here a while ago saying that my livecd keeps freezing at the boot, and ive figured out that it stops right when it starts mounting the root file system. i dont know what that means, or how to fix it.
[02:33] <goodgerster> OrangeOrange: good.
[02:33] <belkin> HymnToLife try mkdir -p ~test/test :)
[02:33] <OrangeOrange> goodgerster:  i remember using xmms 3 years ago or 2.. and its so ugly compare to winamp :<
[02:34] <Frant|C> OrangeOrange, I have a laptop , and i press the volume up button , Ubuntu says its 100% but I cant here sound from a movi
[02:34] <ctothej> ironnikki: what does the line say?
[02:34] <nn531> !wine
[02:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:34] <eternalswd> Frant|C what movie player?
[02:34] <Frant|C> Totem
[02:34] <OrangeOrange> Frant|C: only the movie? wat about your musicfiles?
[02:34] <goodgerster> ironnikki: you're using the edgy livecd? that happens to me sometimes. I had to use a disc from a magazine, I'm afraid
[02:35] <Frant|C> Ubuntu sounds too ... i'll try mp3 with xmms
[02:35] <goodgerster> ironnikki: try using the dapper livecd and then installing from the edgy alternate cd if you like it
[02:35] <ctothej> ironnikki: if you want to install, i would use the alternate cd
[02:35] <alucard> join #ubuntu-xgl
[02:35] <ironnikki> ctothej: after i took quiet out of the line, it didnt display lines, just a checklist. it stopped right at mounting root file system
[02:35] <eternalswd> Frant|C is the volume up on totem?
[02:35] <Frant|C> Yes
[02:35] <ironnikki> goodgerster: yeah, im using the edgy live cd. im currently downloading the edgy alternate cd. did that one work for you?
[02:35] <goodgerster> yeah
[02:35] <gabaryah> how do i get rid of "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"
[02:35] <riotkittie> ahhh. much better.
[02:35] <gabaryah> direct rendering: No
[02:35] <goodgerster> gabaryah: use the correct driver
[02:36] <ironnikki> ok lets hope that it works for me too thanks
[02:36] <gabaryah> which are the correct ones
[02:36] <ctothej> ironnikki: i had to use the alternate cd too. either my video card or cd drive would cause a freeze 80% of the time when X was trying to load
[02:36] <eternalswd> gabaryah, what video card do you have?
[02:36] <kitche> gabaryah: or enable dri in xorg
[02:36] <gabaryah> ari
[02:36] <gabaryah> ati
[02:36] <eternalswd> gabaryah, what kind of ati?
[02:36] <mike1o> im trying to apply a patch to a file but i dont understand exactly how https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=8141&action=view
[02:36] <Frant|C> OrangeOrange,  with XMMS the mp3s sounds too high, what makes my mp3s sounds like sh**
[02:36] <kitche> mike1o: you downloaded the source?
[02:36] <gabaryah> Load  "dri"
[02:37] <|Jason8|> To install a program, I have to unpack the .tar.gz file, correct?  Then I have to login as root and use what command to install it?
[02:37] <mike1o> kitche: yup
[02:37] <Delux_247> tried to install ubuntu on my toshiba laptop satelite pro, 6.10 i585 desktop, and it coudltnr ead from boot cd on the start up screen  :((
[02:37] <Delux_247> wah
[02:37] <goodgerster> !pastebin | gabaryah
[02:37] <ubotu> gabaryah: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:37] <gabaryah> ati radeon 9600 pro
[02:37] <ironnikki> i tried using a live cd for knoppix, and it froze as well, but there werent any incomplete lines
[02:37] <gabaryah> you want my entire xorg
[02:37] <Judicata> |Jason8|: it depends on the program - its better if you can find a package for it.
[02:37] <Delux_247> i6i6*
[02:37] <gabaryah> ok
[02:37] <Delux_247> i686*
[02:37] <kitche> mike1o: patch -p0 < patchfile do that top level of the source directory
[02:38] <mike1o> kitche: thats it?
[02:38] <goodgerster> gabaryah: no, we just don't want you to flood the channel
[02:38] <|Jason8|> Judicata, I can't stand X-Chat.  I'm a windows guy, used to mIRC.  Any suggestions on an IRC client that comes in a package?
[02:38] <gabaryah> http://pastebin.ca/323136
[02:38] <gabaryah> lol
[02:38] <kitche> mike1o: yes
[02:38] <gabaryah> take a look
[02:38] <ctothej> ironnikki: do you know how to get the alternate cd?
[02:38] <kitche> |Jason8|: well xchat is the only gui irc client really that is good
[02:38] <Judicata> |Jason8|: XChat is probably the most-mIRC like, and I agree that GUI Irc clients for linux are sort of weak.
[02:38] <gabaryah> yes xchat looks ugly
[02:38] <mike1o> kitche: tnx
[02:39] <riotkittie> xchat isnt that different from mIRC
[02:39] <kitche> |Jason8|: but you cna install mirc in wine if you wish
[02:39] <gabaryah> you can run mirc through wine
[02:39] <OrangeOrange> mikelo: yes
[02:39] <riotkittie> use irssi  ... no GuI but sweet, like candy
[02:39] <gabaryah> works for me
[02:39] <Judicata> |Jason8|: I prefer ircII or irssi - but those are text-based, and you'll probably not like them.
[02:39] <|Jason8|> meh, wine.  This 450 would struggle with Wine, I think.
[02:39] <ironnikki> ctothej: yes, im currently downloading it through bittorrent
[02:39] <OrangeOrange> -- 450
[02:39] <mike1o> kitche: what's -p0 ?
[02:39] <|Jason8|> Yes, 450 MHz
[02:40] <riotkittie> ive run Wine on a 333 k-6, it wasnt bad
[02:40] <OrangeOrange> woahh
[02:40] <kmu> Do I need to do anything in Ubuntu after adding more ram to my system?
[02:40] <moniker42> i can't get wine working!
[02:40] <Judicata> |Jason8|: I'd try it first - wine is pretty snappy nowadays.
[02:40] <kitche> mike1o: just tells patch to start at the top level
[02:40] <|Jason8|> Is it?  I'll go check it out
[02:40] <Dame> Everytime I run some app which requires 3D i get this massage: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b. The applications work fine, I have beryl running without problems. Im just wondering is this normal?
[02:40] <OrangeOrange> wine is always cli right?
[02:40] <moniker42> i've installed and ran wine but i don't get ~/.wine
[02:40] <kitche> OrangeOrange: yes
[02:40] <gabaryah> anyone checking my xorg
[02:40] <Judicata> |Jason8|: and there is a package for wine.
[02:40] <OrangeOrange> kitche: how would i access dif dir like C:\program files\
[02:40] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, any luck there?
[02:40] <belkin> i need to install mysql-dev but there are more version, ( libmysqlclient12-dev  , libmysqlclient14-dev, libmysqlclient15-dev ) which one do i need then ?
[02:40] <kitche> OrangeOrange: but you can make scripts and such to make it easier to use wine
[02:40] <gabaryah> i want to try our some games on linux
[02:40] <goodgerster> moniker42: did you use sudo?
[02:41] <Judicata> gabaryah: did you post the link in here?
[02:41] <mike1o> kitche: it prompts "File to patch:"
[02:41] <gabaryah> dri is holding me back
[02:41] <eternalswd> |Jason8| I run utorrent just fine through wine and firefox when I want shockwave, so mirc should work just fine.
[02:41] <kitche> OrangeOrange: cd ~/.wine/drive_+c/Program\ Files
[02:41] <gabaryah> http://pastebin.ca/323136
[02:41] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, I think there's an error in the Makefile
[02:41] <kitche> mike1o: ok then it might be -p1
[02:41] <|Jason8|> Okay, thanks a lot.  I'll go check out WINE
[02:41] <HymnToLife> when I run make, it just deletes everything
[02:41] <kitche> OrangeOrange: no + symbole
[02:42] <Crapon> Anyone here know stuff about acer_acpi?  When I am trying to install it (based on a howto) I am supposed to type "modprobe acer_acpi" in the terminal, but this comes back with "FATAL: Module acer_acpi not found"... what is going on??
[02:42] <ironnikki> if i like ubuntu, do you think that 15 GB of a partition is enough for it? and if i dont like it, can a partition be removed?
[02:42] <mike1o> kitche: what about patch < patchfile ? (with no -p option)
[02:42] <moniker42> goodgerster, yes i used sudo!
[02:42] <|Jason8|> Do you guys also have a suggestion for a program that will play MP3's?  Or is there a plugin for Rhythmbox?
[02:42] <OrangeOrange> kitche: still confuse on the syntax of the wine.. .how would i go to a folder winamp in c:\program files\winamp
[02:43] <mike1o> ironnikki: there is no such thing as i dont like ubuntu
[02:43] <HymnToLife> !mp3 | |Jason8|
[02:43] <ubotu> |Jason8|: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:43] <goodgerster> moniker42: you need to run wine without sudo
[02:43] <|Jason8|> okay.
[02:43] <goodgerster> i.e. wine ~/Desktop/install.exe
[02:43] <belkin> what are the mysql dev package named ?
[02:43] <goodgerster> belkin: mysql5-dev, I suspect
[02:44] <riotkittie> ironnikki: yes and yes. you can go smaller than 15gb but if you have the space, thats cool.
[02:44] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:44] <ironnikki> thanks
[02:44] <ctothej> ironnikki: Yes, that is an ok size.
[02:44] <belkin> goodgerster nope
[02:44] <riotkittie> i have a 3.5gb partition for ubuntu :\
[02:44] <belkin> goodgerster no such package named mysql5-dev or mysql-dev
[02:44] <riotkittie> including /home :P
[02:44] <kitche> mike1o: that might work
[02:44] <belkin> goodgerster  it starts with lib...
[02:44] <gabaryah> hello
[02:44] <anirudha> I have a HP 656C deskjet printer which I installed on ubuntu using CUPS
[02:45] <ctothej> ironnikki: if you dont mind doing some reading and learning, and have a little patience, you will love Ubuntu
[02:45] <kitche> OrangeOrange: cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/winamp
[02:45] <mike1o> kitche: -p1 was right
[02:45] <ctothej> are you coming from Windows?
[02:45] <ironnikki> ive got some extra space, and id like to experiment a little
[02:45] <goodgerster> belkin: append -dev to the end, that generally works
[02:45] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i am
[02:45] <gabaryah> can someone please look at my settings http://pastebin.ca/323136
[02:45] <gabaryah> for Xorg
[02:45] <moniker42> goodgerster, i did it with sudo and without, i tried both!
[02:46] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, does this help http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/resources/howtos/linksysv4/
[02:46] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i dont think i have the pcmia-cs package it mentions there
[02:46] <ineedhelpwithmyw> and that package isnt in synaptic
[02:46] <goodgerster> moniker42: no idea then, sorry
[02:46] <ctothej> gabaryah: what is your issue?
[02:46] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <belkin> goodgerster searching from tons of packages aint that easy ,
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <Darxus> is it possible that while I was trying to install php modules aptitude mangled its list of installed packages?  it seems to think I need to install 405 packages (aptitude install).. and it was clean a minute ago
[02:47] <gabaryah> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[02:47] <gabaryah> direct rendering: No
[02:47] <Darxus> just installed today
[02:47] <goodgerster> !pastebin | gabaryah
[02:47] <ubotu> gabaryah: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <gralha> i need help. i'm a new on ubuntu
[02:47] <ctothej> gabaryah: video card ?
[02:47] <gralha> can anyone help me?
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <gabaryah> ati radeon 9600 pro
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <anirudha> Help please, I can't print any documents on ubuntu
[02:47] <Judicata> wtf?
[02:47] <mike1o> ironnikki: consider that ubuntu (linux) is opensource so u'll probably expand continously ;-)
[02:47] <jrib> anirudha: stop
[02:47] <ctothej> dude
[02:47] <gabaryah> i followed the guide through
[02:47] <riotkittie> anirudha: STOP please. :P
[02:47] <gabaryah> beryl is working
[02:48] <DomA> hello guys .. i have a vpn running on my desktop. All the traffic goes through that vpn
[02:48] <ironnikki> haha good point
[02:48] <jrib> anirudha: that just gets you *negative* attention
[02:48] <gabaryah> installed drivers
[02:48] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, nop, that from the old drivers for 2.4 kernels
[02:48] <gabaryah> still no DRI
[02:48] <DomA> i want to add a route so that my mail client can access email server using diff route
[02:48] <ardchoille> anirudha, If no one can help with your issue, then you won't get a response
[02:48] <DomA> how to add such route ?
[02:48] <riotkittie>  if somebody has an answer, they'll provide you with one. if nobody's responding, its because theyre helping somebody else, or they are clueless
[02:48] <goodgerster> *everyone proceeds to not try to help anirudha, who learns the hard way not to flood*
[02:48] <ctothej> gabaryah: beryl is working??
[02:48] <gabaryah> yep
[02:48] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife look at it tho it say on line 5 in makefile to change kernelrelease to reflect my kernel
[02:49] <ineedhelpwithmyw> could that be the problem?
[02:49] <gralha> i have ubuntu instaled on my laptop i have access to may lan
[02:49] <gabaryah> without it running my system is slow as a turtle
[02:49] <gralha> but i don't have access to internet
[02:49] <Jedrick> i just finished upgrading to edgy. weeeeee edgy is much more faster to load
[02:49] <goodgerster> Jedrick: yep. would you like to know why?
[02:49] <ctothej> gabaryah: interesting
[02:49] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, look to line 5 of your makefile, does it look relevant ?
[02:49] <Jedrick> what's the command in the terminal to know what version you're using
[02:49] <gralha> can anyone help me???
[02:49] <Jedrick> goodgerster: why?
[02:50] <ineedhelpwithmyw> how do i view makefile and edit it?
[02:50] <goodgerster> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[02:50] <mikejanssen> what does this error mean?
[02:50] <mikejanssen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:50] <mikejanssen>  clamav-base
[02:50] <mikejanssen> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:50] <mikejanssen> ...
[02:50] <ctothej> gabaryah: are your fglrx drivers recent?
[02:50] <kitche> !version|Jedrick
[02:50] <anirudha> Okay, Okay, I was just joking with everyone. Goodbye =)
[02:50] <ubotu> Jedrick: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[02:50] <eternalswd> gabaryah, I don't see anything suspect in your xorg.conf file.
[02:50] <mikejanssen> keep getting that in the terminal
[02:50] <ineedhelpwithmyw> oo text editor?
[02:50] <Jedrick> edgy is so fast.. doesn't need to see those loading stuff :)
[02:50] <goodgerster> Jedrick: basically it's more clever
[02:50] <riotkittie> uhh
[02:50] <Deaglebear> is there an apt-get for flash i cant get mine to install
[02:51] <eternalswd> Deaglebear, what browser?
[02:51] <Trojaneyez> download and place the file manually
[02:51] <goodgerster> Deaglebear: go to the adobe website and extract the file to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:51] <gabaryah> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6286 (8.33.6)
[02:51] <gralha> help please!!!! :(
[02:51] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, i navigated thru computer and filesystem and openned the folder where Makefile is supposed to be
[02:51] <gabaryah> latest drivers
[02:51] <Deaglebear> i cant get it to work
[02:51] <ineedhelpwithmyw> but its not there
[02:51] <goodgerster> !ask | gralha
[02:51] <ubotu> gralha: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:52] <Jedrick> but i didn't see any changes on dapper to edgy.  just edgy is faster to load then the previous version
[02:52] <Deaglebear> thats y i wondered
[02:52] <eternalswd> Deaglebear, what browser?
[02:52] <kitche> !flash|Deaglebear this is flash 7 feisty has flash 9
[02:52] <ubotu> Deaglebear this is flash 7 feisty has flash 9: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <gralha> i have ubunto instaled on my laptop
[02:52] <kitche> !flash9|Deaglebear
[02:52] <gralha> i can access to my lan but not to the internet
[02:52] <ubotu> Deaglebear: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[02:52] <gralha> what can be wrong??
[02:52] <bam_> hi...I was wondering how I could turn off CPU frequency scaling on my desktop??
[02:52] <bulmer> gralha: where are you accessing it from ?
[02:52] <goodgerster> bam_: why?
[02:52] <mike1o> has anybody here successfully configured 3d on the VIA K8M890 video card?
[02:52] <gralha> from another pc
[02:52] <ctothej> gabaryah: I have ATI fglrx running beryl as well. This is my xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2360/
[02:53] <anirudha> gralha is your eth config up?
[02:53] <bulmer> gralha: on same subnet?
[02:53] <kitche> mike1o: via doesn't have 3d it uses mesalib instead
[02:53] <gralha> i think so... i'm new on ubuntu...
[02:53] <bam_> because I have a dual core Intel cpu and it seemes to be running a 1.6 Ghz at all times....
[02:53] <bam_> even when at 100%
[02:53] <gralha> but i can access to my lan
[02:53] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, yep, as I told you, running make just deletes everything in there, that's why I think there's something else to do
[02:53] <bulmer> gralha: what do you use as your default gateway?
[02:53] <TiKoGT> Hey, I just got a webcam and I use Ubuntu, What program should i use, or what should i do to take pics with it?
[02:53] <ctothej> gabaryah: but i dont see anything wrong with yours. as the ati driver handles most of the settings anyway
[02:53] <mike1o> kitche: do i install it from apt?
[02:53] <anirudha> gralha, try ifconfig on terminal and see if you see eth0
[02:54] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, so should i unzip it again and look at makefile?
[02:54] <kitche> mike1o: if you are running X then you are using mesalib also
[02:54] <goodgerster> bam_: well, if it needs to be above that it will increase the speed
[02:54] <gralha> my wirelesss router... with DHCP
[02:54] <n2diy_> Any suggestions as to what nx client to use with Dapper?
[02:54] <mike1o> kitche: ok but i have poor rendering
[02:54] <kitche> mike1o: yep you will
[02:54] <bulmer> gralha: may i ask you to direct your response so it can not be missed
[02:54] <mike1o> kitche: and there's nothing i can do about it??
[02:54] <goodgerster> bam_: otherwise, it's extending the life of the processor as well as not using as much power
[02:55] <Deaglebear> where am i suposed to extract the flash file again whoever told mr
[02:55] <bam_> but it doesnt go above that....even when compiling thing...it stays at 1.6...and that takes some time....
[02:55] <gralha> yep bulmer
[02:55] <goodgerster> Deaglebear: ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:55] <kitche> mike1o: see what driver your using but via's aren't great just like intel i810's
[02:55] <gralha> sorry
[02:55] <TiKoGT> Hey, I just got a webcam and I use Ubuntu, What program should i use, or what should i do to take pics with it?
[02:55] <Crapon> Anyone here know stuff about acer_acpi?  When I am trying to install it (based on a howto) I am supposed to type "modprobe acer_acpi" in the terminal, but this comes back with "FATAL: Module acer_acpi not found"... what is going on??
[02:55] <anirudha> BTW ... Can anybody here print out documents on ubuntu?
[02:55] <bulmer> gralha and your other client on the subnet is able to access the internet via that same router?
[02:55] <goodgerster> anirudha: of course we can
[02:55] <cryosphere> i recently installed xubuntu
[02:55] <bulmer> anirudha yes, using cups
[02:55] <rusher> how is xubuntgu
[02:55] <goodgerster> bam_: that is presumably because the top speed of a single core is 1.6ghz
[02:56] <gralha> bulmer: yes i'm doing that right now
[02:56] <belkin> do i need to create a cgi-bin directory in /var/www/ or does apache will use by default /usr/share/apache2/default-site/cgi-bin ?
[02:56] <ctothej> who do I mount bin/cue images?
[02:56] <ctothej> who=how
[02:56] <mike1o> kitche: im trying to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[02:56] <kitche> belkin: you have to make one
[02:56] <bam_> its not...each of the cores are 2.4 ghz....:)
[02:56] <Pelo> TiKoGT,  I think this is what you need but I can'T help you any further then that  http://mxhaard.free.fr/
[02:56] <mike1o> kitche: at first x wouldn't start at all
[02:56] <bulmer> gralha: compare the route table on your ubuntu and your other client(windows?) they should be very similar
[02:56] <cryosphere> and I can't connect to the internet (wired, emachine M5312, DHCP, broadcom ethernet card)
[02:56] <belkin> kitche ok thanks
[02:56] <cryosphere> !paste
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:57] <anirudha> bulmer, hi ... I tried installing my HP Deskjet 656C using CUPs and it installed successfully. But documents still don't print. Only blank paper prints outl. ???
[02:57] <kitche> mike1o: that guide should work but you won't get 3d as you might think
[02:57] <TiKoGT> thanks
[02:57] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, heres Makefile http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2361/
[02:57] <mike1o> kitche: in fact i didnt
[02:57] <goodgerster> bam_: are you certain?
[02:57] <bam_> ofcourse.
[02:57] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, I've downloaded it too
[02:57] <Jedrick> what has been the changes of edgy from dapper?
[02:57] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[02:57] <mike1o> kitche: i should probably go back to switzerland and buy another video card
[02:57] <HymnToLife> but I can't find what's wrong
[02:57] <rusher> akiba
[02:57] <ineedhelpwithmyw> anything i need to adjust with it?
[02:57] <HymnToLife> I guess you'd be better with ndiswrapper
[02:57] <bulmer> anirudha: is that printer one of those so called windows gdi printer that only normally works with windows?
[02:58] <gralha> bulmer: don't look alike...
[02:58] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[02:58] <ineedhelpwithmyw> can u walk me thru that?
[02:58] <Deaglebear> goodgerster: that did not work any other ideas?
[02:58] <rusher> hp has good linux support
[02:58] <mike1o> kitche: ill figure something out
[02:58] <goodgerster> bam_: well, evidently linux either thinks otherwise or that you're not taxing it sufficiently
[02:58] <ineedhelpwithmyw> i already have ndiswrapper
[02:58] <bam_> thought it might be permanently stuck at "powersaving" or something...but cant seem to find it.
[02:58] <goodgerster> Deaglebear: did you restart firefox?
[02:58] <bulmer> gralha: thats your key, if the route table are not very similar to others on same subnet
[02:58] <Deaglebear> yes
[02:58] <bam_> ....compiling apache??
[02:58] <goodgerster> Deaglebear: be more specific
[02:58] <anirudha> I don't know. Never heard of them? I'll check online, ... do you recommend a website as reference
[02:58] <Deaglebear> lemme try again
[02:58] <goodgerster> bam_: *shrug*
[02:58] <bam_> ....and mysql at the same time?
[02:58] <anirudha> bulmer, I don't know. Never heard of them? I'll check online, ... do you recommend a website as reference
[02:58] <bam_> hehe
[02:59] <gralha> bulmer: but the configs are alike same gateway...
[02:59] <bulmer> anirudha: google is my reference :)
[02:59] <kitche> anirudha: linuxprinting.org
[02:59] <anirudha> bulmer, okay ... hahaha ... thanks
[02:59] <goodgerster> bam_: *investigates*
[02:59] <anirudha> kitche, oh thanks + )
[02:59] <anirudha> kitche, oh thanks = )
[02:59] <anirudha> bulmer, , thanks = )
[03:00] <DomA> kitche: can you help me with route add ?
[03:00] <bulmer> gralha: umm can you paste your route table in some pastebin? so i can view?
[03:00] <cryosphere> so if someone wants to help me figure out why I can't connect to the internet look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2362/
[03:00] <goodgerster> run "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies" and paste
[03:00] <bulmer> anirudha: np, i have not really helped much yet
[03:00] <goodgerster> then "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors"
[03:00] <kitche> DomA: what kind of route for default gateway or to another network
[03:01] <ineedhelpwithmyw> can anybody help me use ndiswrapper to get my wireless pc card working?
[03:01] <gralha> bulmer: the one from windows or from ubuntu?
[03:01] <Jedrick> how can i install flash plugins on firefox?
[03:01] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ill pay 10 dollars over paypal to anybody that walks me thru
[03:01] <bulmer> gralha from both so we can compare them
[03:01] <cryosphere> ineedhelp: I've done that before
[03:01] <DomA> to my email server
[03:01] <HymnToLife> cryosphere, for some reason, your NIC is looking for an IPv6 router
[03:01] <goodgerster> bam_?
[03:02] <DomA> i am connected to a server using VPN. vpn client modify something on my machine.. which makes it impossible to access email server
[03:02] <cryosphere> Hymn: what is that, why is it bad and what do I need to do about it
[03:02] <bam_> oh....sry...will do right now...
[03:02] <ineedhelpwithmyw> can u walk me thru cryosphere?
[03:02] <DomA> if i am not connected to vpn my email client works
[03:02] <DomA> so i want to add a route
[03:02] <DomA> so that trafffic to email server goes through local connection and not vpn
[03:02] <cryosphere> ineedhelp: as soon as I can get my wired connection working I'll be doing the same thing you  are
[03:03] <DomA> am not aware of the exact command
[03:03] <HymnToLife> cryosphere, you need to specify an IPv4 address so your NIC can use it since your router doesn't seem to run IPv6
[03:03] <bulmer> DomA seems like your VPN became your default gateway
[03:03] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[03:03] <DomA> yes i guess so
[03:03] <DomA> it moddify always
[03:03] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it
[03:03] <kitche> DomA: sudo route add default gw <ip>
[03:03] <bam_> "No such file or directory" on the first command
[03:03] <kitche> anywyad I m off to waitch Bloodrayne and RE: Aclopyse for now
[03:04] <bam_> "userspace powersave ondemand conservative performance" on the second...
[03:04] <cryosphere> Hymn: im not sure I remember exactly what IPv6 means but from what I understand its the default standard found in modern routers
[03:04] <goodgerster> bam_: ok
[03:04] <HymnToLife> cryosphere, do sudo ifdown eth1, then pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:04] <cryosphere> ok
[03:04] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it
[03:04] <HymnToLife> cryosphere, you can also run   sudo dhclient eth1         if you want to use DHCP
[03:04] <gralha> bulmer: i cannot make a copy past from the ubuntu
[03:05] <DomA> will that make only the traffic to email server go through that specific connection an dnot through vpn
[03:05] <goodgerster> bam_:
[03:05] <cryosphere> Hymn: yes I use DHCP, in fact I'm using the same machine with the same connecting right now, but I booted windows
[03:05] <bam_> yeah?
[03:05] <cryosphere> *connection
[03:05] <goodgerster> bam_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets and choose "yes" regarding the suid for cpu-selector
[03:05] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it
[03:05] <bam_> I am running kubuntu....
[03:06] <HymnToLife> all right so boot back in your ubuntu and run          sudo dhclient eth1
[03:06] <bam_> sry...should have said that sooner.
[03:06] <HymnToLife> that should get you online so we can work on making the change permanent
[03:06] <cryosphere> Hymn: im running xubuntu (I don't think that matters at all )
[03:06] <cryosphere> thanks
[03:06] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it
[03:06] <cryosphere> brb
[03:06] <cryosphere> hopefully
[03:06] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, ndiswrapper says my hardware isnt present
[03:06] <goodgerster> bam_: yes. yes you should. refer to #kubuntu in future
[03:07] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, are you sure you installed the correct driver ?
[03:07] <bam_> I will.My apologies.
[03:07] <keithhhhh> Is there anyway to change the desktop background for each virutal desktop?
[03:07] <ineedhelpwithmyw> but ubuntu has it listed in device manager
[03:07] <TiKoGT> how i use makefile files to install a software?
[03:07] <HymnToLife> cryosphere, if it doesnt, make a copy of your /etc/network/interfaces so we can have a look at it
[03:07] <ineedhelpwithmyw> im pretty sure its the one for wpc11 v4, except its for fedora
[03:07] <goodgerster> bam_: "sudo cpufreq-selector --governer=performance" ought to do it
[03:07] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it  ----- how i use makefile files to install a software?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, what kind of card is it ? (PCI or USB)
[03:08] <ineedhelpwithmyw> pcmia
[03:08] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it  ----- how i use makefile files to install a software?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> oh
[03:08] <bam_> "cpufreq-selector: command not found"
[03:08] <HymnToLife> never worked on those so I don't know how you get the PCIID (or equivalent for PCMCIA)
[03:08] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it  ----- how i use makefile files to install a software?
[03:09] <bam_> what program do i have to download?
[03:09] <goodgerster> bam_: ye gods, what version are you using?
[03:09] <bam_> 6.10
[03:09] <goodgerster> hrrrm
[03:09] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, i found an article saying the newer wpc11s use realtek 8180 instead of rtl8180
[03:09] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it  ----- how i use makefile files to install a software?
[03:09] <bam_> I have uninstalled a couple of things, but I can install them again.
[03:09] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it  ----- how i use makefile files to install a software?
[03:09] <ineedhelpwithmyw> im gonna see if thats the reason it hasnt been workin and get back to u
[03:09] <TiKoGT> hey how do i install gspcav1 for my camera? it comes with a makefile and i dont know how to use it  ----- how i use makefile files to install a software?
[03:09] <bam_> wait.I think I know what it is...
[03:09] <bam_> just one sec
[03:10] <adaptr> !build | TiKoGT
[03:10] <ubotu> TiKoGT: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:10] <phiqtion> i just installed kubuntu-desktop, when logging in it says something about a file not being found. Before i installed kubuntu, i selected GDM as default. Did i did something wrong? any help will be highly appreciated
[03:10] <goodgerster> bam_: I've no idea what to do. kubuntu seems majorly borked, see #kubuntu (sorry)
[03:10] <adaptr> phiqtion: *are* you logged in ?
[03:10] <goodgerster> phiqtion: GDM will not affect it. I suggest you see #kubuntu though
[03:10] <phiqtion> adaptr: no, before i log in i select KDM
[03:11] <phiqtion> goodgerster: will do
[03:11] <goodgerster> bye
[03:11] <adaptr> phiqtion: you can't - you are looking at GDM when you login
[03:11] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[03:11] <bam_> thanks for your time goodgerster. You put me on the right track. :)
[03:12] <phiqtion> adaptr: i don't understand
[03:12] <goodgerster> bam_: that's ok
[03:12] <goodgerster> phiqtion: KDM != KDE
[03:12] <adaptr> phiqtion: what you select when you log in is a *session* - whether to use KDE or Gnome
[03:12] <belkin> dammm all the apache config file in ubuntu are in different locations :((
[03:12] <adaptr> phiqtion: running KDE on top of GDM may or may not satisfy
[03:12] <phiqtion> adaptr: i select Kde, but logging into it gives a error
[03:12] <adaptr> belkin: they're laid out quite clearly
[03:13] <phiqtion> adaptr: how can i fix this?
[03:13] <yellow> hey guys, how come i miss the letter p on my keyboard everytime i reboot ?
[03:13] <goodgerster> adaptr: it worked for me
[03:13] <belkin> into what apache config file i can add <Directory /test/test> ?
[03:13] <adaptr> phiqtion: I know, you already said that
[03:13] <goodgerster> yellow: wtf?
[03:13] <belkin> adaptr into what apache config file i can add <Directory /test/test> ? /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ?
[03:13] <yellow> i don't know goodgerster
[03:13] <yellow> lol
[03:13] <ardchoille> phiqtion, What exactly is the error?
[03:13] <yellow> but it just happens
[03:13] <goodgerster> yellow: what on earth do you mean? you can't type p?
[03:13] <phiqtion> ardchoille: something about kde startup not found
[03:13] <yellow> everytime i reboot i can't type p
[03:14] <yellow> if i go into keyboard and change the keyboard layout to something else
[03:14] <ardchoille> phiqtion, How did you install KDE?
[03:14] <yellow> it all works again
[03:14] <yellow> lol
[03:14] <yellow> annoying
[03:14] <goodgerster> yellow: you've done something interesting and probably amusing to your system. you can either try and de-twiddle it or reinstall
[03:14] <phiqtion> ardchoille: apt
[03:14] <ardchoille> phiqtion, sudp apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[03:14] <ndr> hello?
[03:14] <phiqtion> ardchoille: yeah
[03:14] <yellow> goodgerster, i've done so many updates and other things to it i dont know which one to remove
[03:14] <yellow> and reinstall is not a good thing at this time
[03:15] <yellow> lol
[03:15] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, how do i get the windows xp inf file?
[03:15] <ardchoille> phiqtion, Have you checked the .xsession-errors file for any info about this?
[03:15] <yellow> i just thought somebody might've encountered something similar
[03:15] <ineedhelpwithmyw> do i have to install it on my xp computer and somehow extract them?
[03:15] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, does your card appear in lspci ?
[03:15] <yellow> and it's just the letter p
[03:15] <yellow> only one
[03:15] <yellow> lol
[03:15] <ndr> can someone help my with my sound card?
[03:15] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, whats lspci?
[03:15] <phiqtion> ardchoille: the only thing it asked me before installing was, which default display manager did i wanted, GDM or KDM. i selected GDM, should i have selected KDM?
[03:15] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, type lspci in a terminal and tell me if your wireless card appears in the list
[03:16] <goodgerster> yellow: nope, it's funny. have you noticed anything such as the letter @ being misplaced or ~ not being where it should be? your keyboard layout has become borked, and I can't think how
[03:16] <ardchoille> phiqtion, I don't think that would make a difference.
[03:16] <adaptr> phiqtion: if you want to switch to KDM, log in, and in a console run "update-rc.d gdm stop 13 2" and "update-rc.d kdm start 13 2"
[03:16] <HymnToLife> sudo dpkg-reconfigure {gdm|kdm} works, too
[03:16] <yellow> goodgerster,  let me try ~ @ next time i reboot
[03:16] <phiqtion> adaptr: after the error displays, i hit okay and it takes me back to the brown ubuntu login screen
[03:16] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymtolife, yes it did
[03:16] <yellow> or do you want me to try it now?
[03:16] <yellow> lol
[03:16] <ardchoille> phiqtion, It sounds like a file that the kde session needs isn't being found
[03:16] <adaptr> HymnToLife: it does ? wow
[03:17] <goodgerster> yellow: would be nice
[03:17] <yellow> ok
[03:17] <yellow> ~ and @ right ?
[03:17] <yellow> anything else to try?
[03:17] <phiqtion> ardchoille: exactly, but this is weird since everything installed perfectly
[03:17] <yellow> lol
[03:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, it does
[03:17] <goodgerster> hmm
[03:17] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, pastebin the line regarding your wireless, as well as the output of lspci -n
[03:17] <goodgerster> | is a good one
[03:17] <adaptr> HymnToLife: because it sure does fsck all with xserver-xorg, aside from completely screwing up your configuration ...
[03:17] <yellow> it's just funny as crap if you think about it
[03:17] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok
[03:17] <yellow> will do
[03:17] <yellow> brb
[03:17] <goodgerster> yellow: yes, it is
[03:17] <goodgerster> yellow: my friends are laughing about it right now
[03:18] <yellow> lol
[03:18] <goodgerster> :P
[03:18] <yellow> yeah
[03:18] <yellow> wait till THEY encounter that problem
[03:18] <HymnToLife> adaptr, not dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, just gdm (or kdm)
[03:18] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2364/
[03:18] <adaptr> HymnToLife: I know, I commented on it
[03:18] <yellow> :P
[03:18] <eegore> has anyone had anyluck getting joysticks to work with dapper?
[03:18] <HymnToLife> always worked fine for me
[03:18] <eegore> using the js port
[03:18] <alvarezp> yellow: is the P the only letter you are having trouble with?
[03:18] <rogue780> how good of an image does dd make? is it a 1 for 1 copy?
[03:19] <mikejanssen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:19] <mikejanssen>  clamav-base
[03:19] <eegore> I still can't get the interceptor to work
[03:19] <mikejanssen> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:19] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, lspci -n now :p
[03:19] <mikejanssen> what does that mean
[03:19] <mikejanssen> = \
[03:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Thought you all might be interested in this:  http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/MacBook_Killer_Laptop_runs_Ubuntu_With_pics        : )
[03:19] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, is now part of it?
[03:19] <goodgerster> mikejanssen: it means there were errors. what does it say before that?
[03:19] <ineedhelpwithmyw> or do u want me to do it now haha
[03:19] <Hyarion2> hello, when I type iwconfig to look for my wireless adapter I don't see wlan0, just eth0, is this normal?
[03:19] <Yumi`> bye
[03:19] <mikejanssen> it happens when i like install/uninstall stuff with terminal
[03:19] <eegore> I have a Wingman Interceptor and I cannot get it to load
[03:19] <mikejanssen> just happened in synaptic too
[03:19] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, that was lspci, I want lspci -n :)
[03:20] <balarka> hi
[03:20] <HymnToLife> Hyarion2, that's because your wireless is eth0
[03:20] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, its a uncha random numbers and rev stuff
[03:20] <ineedhelpwithmyw> pastebin?
[03:20] <HymnToLife> yep
[03:20] <rogue780> !paste
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[03:20] <HymnToLife> they're not random
[03:20] <bulmer> Hyarion2: sometimes wifi gets named as eth0 instead of wlan0
[03:21] <HymnToLife> they'll help us to find the PCIID of your card
[03:21] <HymnToLife> and the PCIID will help us fint the correct driver
[03:21] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2365/
[03:21] <HymnToLife> it's all connected, man :p
[03:21] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ok cool
[03:22] <ineedhelpwithmyw> so how do i get my wireless internet on now?
[03:22] <ineedhelpwithmyw> or do i not have the right driver yet?
[03:22] <kitche>  /quit
[03:22] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, what was the model of your card, already ?
[03:23] <ineedhelpwithmyw> wpc11 v4
[03:23] <ineedhelpwithmyw> linksys
[03:23] <iblicf> does anybody knows the directory of the firefox plugins , ? i want to backup some ..
[03:24] <yellow> abcdefghijklmno qrstuvwxyz ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO Q RSTUVWXYZ ,. / <>? ;' :" []  {} `1234567890-=\ |+_)(*&^%$#@!~
[03:24] <yellow> ye
[03:24] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L
[03:24] <goodgerster> /usr/share/mozilla/plugins methinks
[03:24] <mikejanssen> how do i uninstall programs with the terminal? like i just installed mozilla web browser...but i dont want that..
[03:24] <yellow> everything's there excet  for the letter  " "
[03:24] <HymnToLife> scroll down a little to number 18, tadaaa :p
[03:24] <iblicf> goodgerster,  thanx
[03:24] <goodgerster> mikejanssen: sudo apt-get remove instead of install
[03:24] <yellow> lol
[03:24] <yellow> just one freaking letter " "
[03:25] <mikejanssen> but i dont know what the rest of the name of it was...
[03:25] <mikejanssen> would it just be sudo apt-get remove mozilla?
[03:25] <mikejanssen> heh
[03:25] <Hyarion2> hmm, I'm attempting to install my wireless adapter, I used ndiswrapper to install the driver, but the adapter never shows up on wlan0, any guesses?
[03:25] <goodgerster> lovely
[03:25] <Xenguy> mikejanssen: or 'dpkg' will remove software also (man dpkg)
[03:25] <ardchoille> mikejanssen, did you use sudo apt-get to install it? How did you install it?
[03:25] <Dante123> hi all.....just installed ubuntu in older machine.....that has Crystal integrated audio....which ubuntu doesn't detect......I have gotten it to work with other distros such as puppy linux.....but that was using an Alsa configuration wizard.....anything comporable or another way of getting ubuntu to recognize the sound card???  thanks in advance for help
[03:25] <mikejanssen> i just installed ubuntu yesterday...so im pretty noobish
[03:25] <balarka> hi everyone!
[03:25] <mikejanssen> yea, im guessin i did...
[03:25] <mikejanssen> heh
[03:26] <mikejanssen> im readin a webpage how to install diff software
[03:26] <goodgerster> could you perhaps perpetuate this personification of phitic preobsession?
[03:26] <mikejanssen> may have been in one of the codes i typed
[03:26] <Dante123> what kind of adapter hy
[03:26] <HymnToLife> Hyarion2, it's not necessarily wlan0, does iwconfig show you any wireless interface ?
[03:26] <ardchoille> mikejanssen, "guessing"??? If you don't pay attention to what you're doing, you can trash your computer real quick.
[03:26] <mikejanssen> lol
[03:26] <mikejanssen> yeah
[03:26] <mikejanssen> i know
[03:26] <Hyarion2> Adapter: WMP54G with Broadcom chipset
[03:26] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, so i just download this and try using ndiswrapper again?
[03:26] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, yep
[03:26] <Dante123> is there any firmware that needs to be loaded for that?
[03:27] <HymnToLife> be sure to remove the one you tried to install previously before
[03:27] <ardchoille> mikejanssen, Open a terminal and run "history" (without quotes) to see what you did.
[03:27] <Hyarion2> HymnToLife: iwconfig shows eth0 with "Access Point: Invalid"
[03:27] <balarka> anyone know abt KDevelop?
[03:27] <balarka> please help me!!!
[03:27] <goodgerster> balarka: see #kubuntu for KDE
[03:27] <balarka> oooh
[03:27] <balarka> thanks
[03:27] <HymnToLife> then configure the AP for it I guess, or is it sill using bcm43xx ?
[03:27] <Dante123> any help with undetected sound card?
[03:27] <Hyarion2> its using bcm43xx, ya
[03:28] <yellow> so guys
[03:28] <Hyarion2> I installed the driver bcmwl5.inf with ndiswrapper fine, it's just after that which seems to be the problem.
[03:28] <yellow> any light on the letter missing ?
[03:28] <yellow> goodgerster,
[03:28] <goodgerster> nope
[03:29] <goodgerster> I can only suggest that you try deleting your ~/.gnome2 directory
[03:29] <linuxguy> hi may I have a quick question on sudo?
[03:29] <yellow> alvarezp ?
[03:29] <goodgerster> !ask | linuxguy
[03:29] <ubotu> linuxguy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <constrictor> i got a belkin g+ mimo notebook card, ubuntu sees it's there but when i click on enable this connection nothing happens, any ideas?
[03:29] <Dante123> crystal semiconductor 423x
[03:29] <yellow> uhm deleting that would remove all my gnome references ?
[03:29] <linuxguy> all right, I added the line :  myusername  ALL = PASSWD: ALL
[03:30] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, these mirrors arent working
[03:30] <linuxguy> in sudoers via visudo
[03:30] <goodgerster> yellow, it would remove most of your gnome settings, yes. if you can isolate the keyboard bits, that'd be good
[03:30] <alvarezp> yellow: beats me.
[03:30] <linuxguy> but I'm still not ased my passwd for running sudo
[03:30] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, try to get the Windows driver from Realtek
[03:30] <yellow> lol
[03:30] <ineedhelpwithmyw> but dont i need the old version of the driver?
[03:30] <yellow> any other suggestions ?
[03:31] <alvarezp> yellow: try another keyboard. :-)
[03:31] <yellow> i'll probably do that worse comes worse
[03:31] <yellow> well now it's fine when i reset the keybaord layout
[03:31] <yellow> see ?
[03:31] <bulmer> linuxguy: is there a PASSWD alias?
[03:31] <yellow> just weird
[03:31] <yellow> lol
[03:32] <alvarezp> yellow: I once had a USB keyboard+hub that doubled the "a" when it had some other USB device connected to it.
[03:32] <linuxguy> no, it is not a tag by default?
[03:32] <goodgerster> alvarezp: heh
[03:32] <yellow> haha for real ?
[03:32] <adub> what is a good remote desktop program to a windows box
[03:32] <yellow> ok i'll try another keyboard then
[03:32] <alvarezp> yellow: yeah, very weird.
[03:32] <goodgerster> adub: VNC
[03:32] <adaptr> adub: rdesktop, it's actually the only one
[03:33] <adub> adaptr thanks
[03:33] <bulmer> adub: windows 95?
[03:33] <adub> how what should i setup on the windows machine
[03:33] <adaptr> adub: enable remote desktop on windows and log in with the user you allowed access there
[03:33] <adub> windows 2000
[03:33] <adub> ok
[03:33] <adaptr> adub: oops - VNC it is, then
[03:33] <n2diy_> adub: Freenx
[03:33] <atrus> yellow: you can remove the gnome keyboard settings by themselves. i can get you the command in a minute here.
[03:33] <adub> adaptr can i just enable remote desktop on 2000
[03:33] <nwonknu-> sup?
[03:33] <cokeslut> hello
[03:33] <adub> and connect through rdp port
[03:34] <rogue780> can I do dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/media/otherdrive/backup.ixo if hda1 is mounted?
[03:34] <cryosphere> Hymn?
[03:34] <yellow> ok atrus
[03:34] <adaptr> adub: windows 2000 does not have remote desktop
[03:34] <belkin> where can i change the server name in apache config i couldnt find it in any of apache config files
[03:34] <cokeslut> I'll find out
[03:34] <nwonknu-> no
[03:34] <adub> bummer
[03:34] <cryosphere> !paste
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[03:34] <bulmer> rogue780: yes
[03:34] <atrus> yellow: you could also see if it works in the "failsafe xterm" session.
[03:34] <belkin> Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[03:34] <adaptr> belkin: ServerName ?
[03:34] <belkin> adaptr yeah Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[03:34] <yellow> uhm how to do that atrus ?
[03:34] <adub> is there a free vnc for windows
[03:34] <goodgerster> adub: yes.
[03:35] <ineedhelpwithmyw> hymntolife, i tried the windows xp driver and it was already installed but the hardware still isnt present
[03:35] <goodgerster> on the VNC website
[03:35] <atrus> yellow: in gdm you select "sessions" on the login screen and select "failsafe xterm", or something similar.
[03:35] <rogue780> bulmer, so I could have my server do a monthly image backup of the entire OS drive without shutting it down?
[03:35] <ardchoille> yellow, log out and choose the failsafe session to log into
[03:35] <adaptr> belkin: no, that was the answer
[03:35] <goodgerster> rogue780: of course
[03:35] <bulmer> rogue780: have you tried it yet?
[03:35] <yellow> ok reboot again ?
[03:35] <yellow> lol
[03:35] <adub> and connect to the vnc through rdesktop
[03:35] <belkin> adaptr i know :) into what config file i find that section ?
[03:35] <ardchoille> yellow, You don't have to reboot to change sessions or switch keyboards
[03:36] <rogue780> bulmer, no. kinda worried that I'd break something. that, and I wasn't sure if there would be an issue because data may be being written to the drive during the imaging process
[03:36] <adaptr> belkin: grep for it
[03:36] <HymnToLife> ineedhelpwithmyw, this generally is the case when you install a wrong driver but if you're sure its the right one, I can't help you further, sorry
[03:36] <yellow> ardchoille,  the keyboard is working fine now since i changed the layout
[03:36] <yellow> arrgg wth
[03:36] <atrus> yellow: just logout/login.
[03:36] <ineedhelpwithmyw> ew ugh, is this a dead end?
[03:37] <GaiaX11> What do I do for sudo not ask for my password? It is an annoyance every time giving the pass.
[03:37] <belkin> adaptr bloody hell, there is no such file ServerName in the whole system
[03:37] <bulmer> rogue780: you only need to back up your data montly not the system files everymonth
[03:37] <belkin> file system *
[03:37] <adaptr> belkin: who said it was a file ?
[03:37] <belkin> adaptr or a dir i grep for it
[03:37] <goodgerster> GaiaX11: you have to, otherwise the computer doesn't know it's you and you end up with a windows-type situation where viruses are existent
[03:37] <adaptr> belkin: you cannot grep for a file
[03:38] <belkin> adaptr but for a dir
[03:38] <goodgerster> belkin: you can't grep a dir either
[03:38] <Aaron_Mason> ok... i just installed mysql 5 through synaptic... but i can't find a way to get it running... any ideas?
[03:38] <cryosphere> http://pastebin.com/863964
[03:38] <adaptr> belkin: stop spouting nonsense please: grep ServerName /etc/apache2/*
[03:38] <goodgerster> you grep output
[03:38] <adub> adaptr so with freeware vnc server on server end windows box
[03:38] <rogue780> bulmer, I was using that more as an example, but when I add a mail server to it I'll want to image the whole drive--so if it goes down I can restore it super quickly, and then restore the specific data. less headache I thnk
[03:38] <bulmer> Aaron_Mason: look at /etc/init.d/ if it had put a mysql script there
[03:38] <adub> and im using linux but me being the client i doubt i would have to do anything with ports on my router you think???
[03:39] <adub> i dont have to have ports open just the server right ??
[03:39] <belkin> adaptr still nothing
[03:39] <adaptr> adub: any VNC is free - take your pick, realvnc (the original) works fine, tightVNC is another favourite
[03:39] <Aaron_Mason> bulmer, nope :(
[03:39] <bulmer> rogue780: just make sure the destination disk is ready to receive those files
[03:39] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, when I go to websites in Firefox, it transfers me to a Google 404 page about half the time.
[03:39] <adaptr> belkin: then you made a mistake
[03:39] <adub> adaptr i know what your saying but me being behind a router do i have to open ports
[03:39] <|Jason8|> Anyone know what could be causing this?
[03:39] <Aaron_Mason> hold on... I might not have installed the server.. :S
[03:39] <belkin> adaptr how can it be ? i installed apache via apt
[03:40] <Aaron_Mason> that usually helps
[03:40] <adaptr> adub: I have no idea what you mean - I said nothing about ports
[03:40] <bulmer> lol
[03:40] <n2diy_> |Jason8|: 404 errors are served by the website, I don't think it is a Firefox problem.
[03:40] <adaptr> belkin: I made a mistake :) grep -R etc.
[03:41] <belkin> adaptr still nothing
[03:41] <Aaron_Mason> ok... now I had a look in aptitude, the package would be in net/main, right?
[03:41] <|Jason8|> n2diy_, it's a Google 404 error.  It's quite wierd.  And if I just go to, lets say... www.something.com, it'll redirect to google.com.  And when I go to a .de website, it goes to google.de
[03:42] <|Jason8|> It's almost as if Google hijacked my browser.
[03:42] <bulmer> |Jason8|: possibly that you are pointing to a bad dns
[03:42] <plmoki> #paste
[03:42] <rogue780> bulmer, it'ss be going to a 160gb drive that I use for itunes, and misc. apps and images. each image will only be 4GB each, and then compressed to about 1.6GB with bzip2
[03:42] <plmoki> ?paste
[03:42] <n2diy_> |Jason8|: ah, ok, hmmm?
[03:42] <rogue780> !paste
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[03:43] <AngelBennett> Good Night, I try to install UBUNTU 6.06 and start the instalation in 800x600 mode, because the monitor not support 1024*768 resolution, someone know the instalation parameter ?
[03:43] <|Jason8|> does Ubuntu have any other browsers that I could try out?
[03:43] <plmoki> thank you rogue780
[03:43] <atrus> |Jason8|: epiphany and firefox are the two easiest to install/use probabbly.
[03:43] <FunnyLookinHat> Thought you all might be interested in this:  http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/MacBook_Killer_Laptop_runs_Ubuntu_With_pics        : )
[03:43] <bulmer> rogue780 do a trial run and see if it does indeed do what you're hoping for
[03:43] <rogue780> plmoki, any time
[03:43] <rogue780> bulmer, will do. thanks
[03:43] <goodgerster> gtg, bai
[03:43] <adaptr> belkin: sigh.. okay, that means your system does not have an FQDN, either
[03:44] <belkin> adaptr that means i have to do what ?
[03:44] <adaptr> belkin: is something not working because of that warning ?
[03:44] <rogue780> oh crap
[03:45] <n2diy_> |Jason8|: you could try Opera.
[03:45] <belkin> adaptr there is everything working is just that apache keeps telling me " apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName " and i would like to get rid of it ( fix it )
[03:45] <adaptr> belkin: if you want apache to report/use/react to any actual hostname then you either have to assign an FQDN to your system or set a ServerName in apache
[03:46] <adaptr> or, for preference, both
[03:46] <Aaron_Mason> forgot to install the server :$
[03:46] <adaptr> (if you want apache's default name to be different from your machine name)
[03:46] <|Jason8|> n2diy_, okay.  Does Ubuntu have any other borwsers built into it?
[03:47] <HymnToLife> |Jason8|, Epiphany maybe ?
[03:47] <HymnToLife> or lynx :p
[03:47] <n2diy_> |Jason8|: Mozilla?
[03:47] <adaptr> |Jason8|: web browsers ? Galeon, Epiphany, Konqueror, Nautilus, Firefox, Mozilla, Dillo, Links, Lynx.. how mamy do you want ?
[03:47] <belkin> adaptr what the easy way ? in other os i used to change the servername=something.com which was located in http.conf
[03:47] <chrisjs> Is there a mirror to the install.exe prototype?  I was hoping to have a copy on my laptop for bitTorrent, but there aren't any seeds at the moment
[03:47] <n2diy_> HymnToLife: that's mean. :)
[03:48] <yellow> huh
[03:48] <HymnToLife> the question was "built in"
[03:48] <adaptr> belkin: then do that here, too - but apache won't be reachable as such unless the machine is, too
[03:48] <yellow> it works in the failsafe term
[03:48] <HymnToLife> so I though he was asking for other browsers installe dby default
[03:48] <atrus> yellow: to reset just gnome's keyboard settings: gconftool --recursive-unset /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard
[03:48] <adaptr> HymnToLife: there are *no* browsers "built in", obviously - they're bolted on with duct tape
[03:48] <Creteil> hi all
[03:48] <Deaglebear> madpilot r u there?
[03:49] <AngelBennett> Good Night, I try to install UBUNTU 6.06 and start the instalation in 800x600 mode, because the monitor not support 1024*768 resolution, someone know the instalation parameter ?
[03:49] <belkin> adaptr damm man dont you get it ? i dont know how because there is no such line " ServerName " in any of the apache configs files
[03:49] <atrus> yellow: that's interesting, because it means X is probabbly configured right, but gnome is doing something silly. try the above command (ideally at the text console while logged out)
[03:49] <alvarezp> yellow: you might try to type the "P" in a TTY to check if the problem is gnome or not.
[03:49] <adaptr> belkin: yet you know what the line looks like - why don't you add it ?
[03:49] <Creteil> i would like to create a .deb package for QuakeForge 0.5.5 from sources hosted at www.quakeforge.net, someone here can drive me how to achieve this ?
[03:49] <GOATSLAYER> hey guys, i have  a laptop that i am partitioning, it currently runs windows, and has a 20 gig partiton free that i am currently making linux, with a swap, it will give me a boot up screen right?
[03:49] <yellow> alvarezp, how do i do that ?
[03:49] <adaptr> !language | belkin
[03:49] <ubotu> belkin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:49] <yellow> what's a TTY ?
[03:49] <Deaglebear> !wine
[03:49] <adaptr> !patience | belkin
[03:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:49] <GOATSLAYER> so i can choose windows or ubuntu?
[03:49] <ubotu> belkin: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:50] <n2diy_> AngelBennett: when you see the boot prompt, check the options available to you with F2 and F3.
[03:50] <belkin> adaptr i am patience man stop with this msg
[03:50] <alvarezp> yellow: ctrl+alt+f2 to go to a tty, and ctrl+alt+f7 to come back (I'm not sure if it is f7, but something like that).
[03:50] <atrus> yellow: tty == text console.
[03:50] <AngelBennett> Thanks n2diy
[03:51] <yellow> huhh
[03:52] <yellow> it works in TTY too
[03:52] <belkin> adaptr chatting with you for more then half hours didnt do anything, you said you`re the one :) with all your grep commands and stuff there is still no ServerName in any of apache confs files  :)
[03:52] <Adam12> Anybody know of a gnome equivalent of kftpgrabber? Just rebooted after an upgrade and it won't stop segfaulting :|
[03:52] <yellow> so i go to tty, log in, do gconftool .... to reset it ?
[03:53] <adaptr> belkin: you're on drugs, or something - I never said I was anything, and all *you* have to do is set a ServerName to solve your issue
[03:53] <adaptr> and I'm definitely done chatting now
[03:54] <belkin> adaptr yeah take some time off man :)
[03:54] <alvarezp> yellow: no, I mean, try to reboot your PC and check if it works in a TTY before fixing your keyboard.
[03:54] <Creteil> is there a way to know how a .deb package was generated ?
[03:54] <yellow> alvarezp,  it works in a TTY
[03:54] <yellow> right now the letter is not working
[03:54] <yellow> here
[03:54] <yellow> but if i switch
[03:54] <yellow> it works
[03:55] <atrus> yellow: "so i go to tty, log in, do gconftool .... to reset it ?" <- correct.
[03:55] <ivx> is there any file sharing software someone can recommend?
[03:55] <alvarezp> yellow: ah, I misunderstood.
[03:55] <Killeroid> ivx: Amule
[03:55] <yellow> ok let me try it
[03:56] <Killeroid> ivx: ktorrent,
[03:56] <maziah> hi
[03:56] <maziah> is there a way to increase dpkg connections?
[03:57] <Giant_sea_turtle> (/motd
[03:57] <maziah> or apt
[03:57] <HymnToLife> "dpkg connection" ?
[03:57] <ctothej> where does ubuntu look for links to installed apps so you can run the app with the command from any location/shell
[03:57] <maziah> i think i mean aptitude
[03:57] <Killeroid> ctothej: /usr/bin
[03:57] <maziah> when updating my system. id like more threads to download the packges from the source.
[03:58] <ctothej> Killeroid: thank you
[03:58] <bulmer> ctothej: echo $PATH
[03:58] <chrisjs> Is there a mirror to the install.exe prototype?  I was hoping to have a copy on my laptop for bitTorrent, but there aren't any seeds at the moment
[03:58] <ctothej> bulmer: sweet. thanks.
[03:58] <n2diy_> I DLed and installed an SMB kernel for this box, with synaptic, and now I want to install it on this box's twin sister. But I can't find the kernel, shouldn't it be apt's archives?
[03:59] <bulmer> ctothej: you also want to know all the available bash commands?
[03:59] <n2diy_> be/be in*
[03:59] <ctothej> bulmer: what do you mean? ... since im learning, yes.
[03:59] <ardchoille> n2diy_, You shouldgo to the other box and lett the package manager install it. but, the kernel is probably in /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:59] <yellow> ok
[03:59] <yellow> so it's working back in this gnome terminal
[03:59] <bulmer> ctothej: press tab twice on the command line
[04:00] <yellow> so it's fixed now ?
[04:00] <yellow> lol
[04:00] <ctothej> bulmer: 2240 possibilities!
[04:00] <bulmer> ctothej:  how many it said you have?
[04:00] <bulmer> lol
[04:00] <bulmer> ctothej: start learning them one by one..
[04:00] <n2diy_> ardchoille: I checked apt's archives it isn't there. I'll let synaptic install it.
[04:00] <ctothej> bulmer: does the directory im in have anything to do with that number?
[04:01] <bulmer> ctothej: am near number 50...lol
[04:01] <bulmer> ctothej: try it, move to another directory
[04:01] <ctothej> bulmer: good for you... how can i pipe all of that into a text file?
[04:01] <Broam-Opal> Hello ubunteros
[04:02] <sasuun> hello there
[04:02] <bulmer> ctothej: you seem to already know more..piping is |   but redicrecting is  >  or <
[04:02] <Broam-Opal> I was wondering if there's a really easy way to completely clone a hard disk (as in, complete copy from one to another, somewhat like an image).  I figure it's just some magic with dd, but I'm a bit clueless.
[04:02] <AndrewB> Why the hell am i gettin this.. it is a bit strange...normally gcc sorts it   http://pastebin.com/863979
[04:02] <theearp> you could use G4U
[04:02] <theearp> to copy the disk
[04:02] <bulmer> Broam-Opal: that will do it, bit for bit  using dd
[04:03] <Broam-Opal> it's 3.2GB, which would be faster?
[04:03] <maziah> ghost is a good windows hdd imager, but for windows :(
[04:03] <ardchoille> Broam-Opal, Try Partimage.. I used it an hour ago to clone a drive. It clones partitions but you can use it to clone multiple parts
[04:03] <HymnToLife> !partimage
[04:03] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-15ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[04:03] <bulmer> Broam-Opal: dont know of anything faster when copying or cloning
[04:03] <lecaros> !seen mhz
[04:03] <ubotu> I haven't seen mhz recently
[04:03] <ctothej> bulmer: yeah, but I hit the tab key twice, is there a command that will do the same?
[04:03] <Landon> Can anyone tell me how to grab a package that's not in the Ubuntu Universe but it's in another site
[04:03] <Broam-Opal> ardchoille: Thanks
[04:04] <Broam-Opal> bulmer: thanks
[04:04] <theearp> not sure about which is faster, i've never used partimage
[04:04] <Broam-Opal> I'll try reading the manuals for both.
[04:04] <Broam-Opal> Thanks for giving me some ideas, guys. I'm installing dapper on a scratch box and then going to submit it some abuse, I just wnated to be able to roll back to a point without reinstalling :)
[04:04] <Landon> I need to grab a package from libsdl.org, but I can't figure out HOW to grab the it from the site
[04:05] <theearp> what about using vmware
[04:05] <Broam-Opal> Landon: you can download the package file yourself
[04:05] <ardchoille> theBishop__, Broam-Opal I used Partimage to image a  7Gb partition and it took 8mins 59secs
[04:05] <Landon> Broam-Opal: How?
[04:05] <theearp> i know g4u is not that fast
[04:05] <bulmer> ctothej: try using script first then all the commands you type and the result gets captured to a file..then exit with ctrl+d
[04:06] <Landon> Broam-Opal: If I save it to my desktop, IF I can find it, what's the command to install it?
[04:06] <Broam-Opal> Landon: You can just ftp the file, and then use dpkg manually (although it's not exactly fun).  Another option is to alter your sources.list but you can get yourself into some interesting dependency issues
[04:06] <Broam-Opal> Landon: dpkg
[04:06] <Broam-Opal> !dpkg
[04:06] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:06] <sasuun> can someone help me update? every time i try to update using synaptic it says "Could not download all repository indexes."
[04:06] <RancidLM> how do i chmod hidden directory's?
[04:06] <ctothej> bulmer: k. will do.
[04:06] <maziah> so how do you configure apt to download more packages at once?
[04:06] <Broam-Opal> theearp: I'll check out everything.
[04:07] <Landon> Broam-Opal, thanks, I'll check it out
[04:07] <n2diy_> RancidLM: the same way you do a regular dir. The only difference is the hidden dir has a . in front of its name.
[04:07] <yellow> >_<
[04:07] <yellow> roblem is still here
[04:08] <yellow> dang it
[04:08] <RancidLM> n2diy_: thats what i thought.. hmm im gonna try it as su
[04:09] <ctothej> some of my java applications wont draw an interface. what can i do? they are just a blank empty window!
[04:09] <stia1> ctothej: do you use beryl?
[04:09] <ctothej> stia1: yes
[04:10] <stia1> ctothej: that's part of the problem... i remember seeing some posts abouts it on ubuntuforums
[04:10] <ctothej> stia1: dont tell me i have to turn it off!!
[04:10] <ctothej> ooh
[04:10] <ctothej> think its beryl or XGL?
[04:11] <maziah> beryl for xgl
[04:11] <ctothej> maziah: you experience the same?
[04:12] <G|wRGoS> hello
[04:12] <maziah> naw, im on a x200m video card, beryl wont work for me.
[04:12] <G|wRGoS> anybody who know where i can find w32codecs?
[04:13] <michaelpo> why some irc channel is ## some #?
[04:13] <smith88> i think from memory w32codecs are in the universe repository
[04:13] <theearp> mplayer site for the codec
[04:13] <ctothej> Oh yeah... i disabled beryl and my programs work... that sucks man
[04:13] <HymnToLife> smith88, nope
[04:13] <stian2> G: just apt-get them
[04:14] <HymnToLife> !w32codecs
[04:14] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[04:14] <yellow> alvarezp, where is the keyboard settings in .gnome2 ?
[04:14] <yellow> do you know?
[04:14] <smith88> you can try the medibuntu repository, which just google it and follow their instructions. has heaps of that sort of thing
[04:14] <yellow> i've looked at it u and down and can't see anything that has to do with gnome settings
[04:15] <blackest> i think wmv9 messed up my  install  all my videos go posterised after the first play
[04:15] <G|wRGoS> !codecs
[04:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:15] <alvarezp> yellow: I would do this: first, open up a terminal and type "xterm" and see if it opens another terminal.
[04:16] <yellow> ok ?
[04:16] <yellow> it does
[04:16] <NeoGeo64> help how do i get the microsoft truetype fonts
[04:16] <HymnToLife> !msttcorefonts
[04:16] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[04:17] <mikejanssen> hmmm
[04:17] <NeoGeo64> help how do i get firefox to use those font
[04:17] <alvarezp> yellow: go to a tty, login, and do exactly like this: startx `which xterm` -- :1        try, test and hit ctrl+alt+backspace or type exit to go back to the tty.
[04:17] <alvarezp> yellow: do it right after rebooting. if you see the problem, gnome is not the problem, but Xorg.
[04:18] <gotgenes> NeoGeo64: you need to log out, press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace to reset X, then log back in
[04:18] <G|wRGoS> w32codecs is Binary Codec Packages which write in mplayer site?
[04:18] <NeoGeo64> That's all?  I don't need to configure firefox manually?
[04:19] <gotgenes> NeoGeo64: Once you've installed the msttcorefonts package, that is all you will need to do
[04:19] <NeoGeo64> okay then
[04:19] <camerong> hey anyone know how i can set an application to run at start?
[04:19] <gotgenes> Anybody know what package has the info pages for grep?
[04:19] <sasuun> everytime i try to reload in synaptics it gives me the error "Could not download all repository indexes."
[04:19] <stian2> G|wRGoS: you can simply write 'sudo apt-get install win32codecs' in the terminal to install the codecs, and yes, that install will make those codecs available for mplayer
[04:20] <gotgenes> camerong: Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[04:20] <camerong> Ubuntu
[04:20] <camerong> 6.10
[04:20] <camerong> gotgenes: ^
[04:20] <n2diy_> sasuun: that doesn't mean synaptic is broken, it just means some of the repos have disappeared.
[04:21] <sasuun> but its a freshly installed ubuntu
[04:21] <ardchoille> sasuun, Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:21] <gotgenes> camerong: Go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs. Click Add. Put in the command to the program you wish to run on startup.
[04:21] <n2diy_> sasuun: synaptic doesn't know that. :)
[04:21] <sasuun> whats pastebin?
[04:21] <ardchoille> !paste | sasuun
[04:21] <ubotu> sasuun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:21] <camerong> thanks a LOT gotgenes
[04:21] <Landon> Hey all, what is the type of file that can dpkg ed and installed?
[04:21] <camerong> u take care
[04:22] <Landon> !dpkg
[04:22] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:22] <painkiler> wait, how do I install a deb package in console?
[04:22] <fokuslee> Deb
[04:22] <fokuslee> dpkg -i
[04:22] <mikejanssen> how do i install gstreamer plugings into rythmbox?
[04:22] <ardchoille> painkiler, Before you install a .deb, have you looked in the repos to see if the app is there?
[04:22] <fokuslee> anyone know is beryl fixed yeT?
[04:22] <painkiler> oh no, its not there
[04:22] <painkiler> deffently not
[04:22] <ardchoille> painkiler, Which app is it?
[04:23] <G|wRGoS> Couldn't find package win32codecs.........
[04:23] <painkiler> a sources.list script
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> im hitting ctrl+alt+backspace but X is not restarting
[04:23] <gotgenes> fokuslee: Beryl is working for me.
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> what do i do
[04:23] <painkiler> a friend of mine wrote it
[04:23] <sasuun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2376/
[04:23] <stian2> G|wRGoS: it
[04:23] <G|wRGoS> i dont know why....
[04:23] <stian2> it's w32codecs
[04:23] <fokuslee> gotgenes:  svn or the newest one from repo i heard upgrade broke it
[04:23] <G|wRGoS> i write sudo apt-get install win32codecs but nothing
[04:23] <johne> join
[04:23] <gotgenes> fokuslee: from repos
[04:23] <lilly> how can i change the font size of gnome panel?
[04:24] <lecaros> do you have the repositories?
[04:24] <gotgenes> fokuslee: not svn
[04:24] <stian2> G|wRGoS: this is the last time i write this to you, it's w32codecs
[04:24] <ardchoille> sasuun, You have added repos, that might be the problem. If you're looking for help with automatix stuff, you won't get help here.
[04:24] <fokuslee> gotgenes k thx mate just wanna make sure i had to reinstall linux
[04:24] <ardchoille> !automatix | sasuun
[04:24] <ubotu> sasuun: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:24] <G|wRGoS> stian2 oops :)
[04:24] <sasuun> um well it can't find any of the repos
[04:24] <khaije1> this is a just checking question: did anyone else have difficulty loading the nvidia display drivers starting a week or so ago?
[04:25] <G|wRGoS> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:25] <G|wRGoS> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:25] <G|wRGoS> is only available from another source
[04:25] <G|wRGoS> xixixi :(
[04:25] <sasuun> i got the same error messages before i installed automatix
[04:25] <HymnToLife> !w32codecs
[04:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[04:25] <ardchoille> khaije1, I installed them a few days ago and haven't had any problems in dapper
[04:25] <lecaros> do you have the repositories? about w32codecs
[04:25] <sasuun> i can try uninstalling automatix first and trying again tho
[04:25] <HymnToLife> !automatix
[04:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:25] <lecaros> do you have the repositories? about w32codecs (your nick isn't friendly to write)
[04:25] <khaije1> anyone using nvidia on edgy had difficulty?
[04:26] <ardchoille> sasuun, I suggest just commenting out the automatix stuff in your sources.list and trying again
[04:26] <G|wRGoS> !w32codecs
[04:26] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages including w32codecs | info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | See !codecs for more information
[04:26] <n2diy_> sasuun: did you read ubotu's message, automatix breaks systems.
[04:26] <sasuun> ok
[04:27] <gotgenes> Anybody know what package has the info pages for grep?
[04:27] <ardchoille> sasuun, Have you already used automatix to install stuff? If so, then the damage may already have been done.
[04:27] <psYchotic> gotgenes: don't you just mean "man grep"?
[04:27] <sasuun> so should i reinstall ubuntu?
[04:27] <doomvodka> why
[04:28] <doomvodka> what for
[04:28] <gotgenes> psYchotic: No, I am looking for the info pages
[04:28] <graft_> gotgenes: what are you trying to grep for anyway?
[04:28] <n2diy_> sasuun: That would insure nothing is broken.
[04:28] <daries> hi
[04:28] <ardchoille> sasuun, I would
[04:28] <HymnToLife> sasuun, no, but please get rid of Automatix before it's too late
[04:28] <doomvodka> i have kubuntu how do you enable the universal repository
[04:28] <sasuun> hm ok then
[04:28] <graft_> !universe | doomvodka
[04:28] <ubotu> doomvodka: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:28] <doomvodka> yeah
[04:29] <HymnToLife> and get a standard sources.list back
[04:29] <Krank> Is there a repository for OpenOffice 2.1 yet?
[04:29] <doomvodka> ?
[04:29] <psYchotic> gotgenes: and "info grep" doesn't work for you?
[04:29] <doomvodka> i need to know so i can install fluxbox and other stuff
[04:29] <doomvodka> azureus
[04:29] <gotgenes> psYchotic: Nope it gives me the Man pages
[04:29] <doomvodka> etc
[04:30] <graft> doomvodka: read that page, it'll help you out
[04:30] <psYchotic> gotgenes: ah, right. Well, it does for me too. I dunno where the info might be
[04:30] <maziah> hrm
[04:30] <doomvodka> k thanks
[04:30] <gotgenes> psYchotic: There's no /usr/share/info/grep.info.gz file anymore
[04:31] <n2diy> gotgenes:  take a look in /lib/share/doc/grep
[04:31] <Deaglebear> does anyone kno the apt get for flash?
[04:31] <jatt> ugh
[04:31] <Deaglebear> !flash
[04:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:32] <kevin_> just go download the binary from adobe
[04:32] <kevin_> its a pretty easy install, i just did it acutally
[04:32] <lilly> how can i change the font size of gnome panel?
[04:32] <Deaglebear> it doesnt work
[04:32] <gotgenes> n2diy: no /lib/share or /usr/lib/share
[04:32] <linuxuser05> hello
[04:32] <psYchotic> gotgenes: you might want to try the debian packages: http://packages.debian.org, apparently, the info pages for grep are in their packages
[04:32] <linuxuser05> how is every one
[04:32] <ardchoille> kevin_, It's best to let the package manager do it if possible.
[04:32] <n2diy> gotgenes:  whoops take a look in /usr/share/doc/grep
[04:33] <shrndegruv> hey i just installed ubuntu
[04:33] <Deaglebear> like i folloe the exact directions but when i restart my brownser it isnt working
[04:33] <linuxuser05> downloadinf ubuntu now to try it
[04:33] <shrndegruv> and my screen resolution is not as good as it could be
[04:33] <yellow> alvarezp,  it's not working
[04:33] <linuxuser05> anyone have anything to say about the distro
[04:33] <yellow> :(
[04:33] <shrndegruv> can i just add the correct resolution in the Screen section of xorg.conf?
[04:33] <zenwhen> oh
[04:33] <gotgenes> n2diy: still absent from there
[04:33] <alvarezp> yellow: most probably it is not gnome-related, but Xorg related.
[04:33] <jatt> psYchotic: is not a good idea to mix debian and ubuntu packages (and the debian package doesn't contain the info pages either (at least the ones in debian unstable)).
[04:33] <n2diy> linuxuser05: we all hate it, can't ya tell?
[04:34] <alvarezp> yellow: try #xorg or ask for an xorg-specific answer.
[04:34] <linuxuser05> lol
[04:34] <yellow> when i do startx 'which term' -- :1
[04:34] <linuxuser05> then maybe i will too
[04:34] <yellow> it  start the xterm
[04:34] <ardchoille> linuxuser05, Ubuntu is the best distro I have ever used.. requires the least amount of work.. and has never had any major problems. I run it on 11 computers and I love it.
[04:34] <psYchotic> jatt: the stable grep package contains the info pages
[04:34] <yellow> i mean xorg
[04:34] <yellow> then quits
[04:34] <Deaglebear> i would like it if the instructions for installing things worke
[04:34] <Deaglebear> d
[04:34] <yellow> ok i'll go over there
[04:34] <riotkittie> 11. oye.
[04:34] <yellow> thanks alvarezp
[04:34] <n2diy> gotgenes: ok, try locate grep, and see if any docs turn up.
[04:34] <gotgenes> psYchotic: should I file a bugreport on Launchpad? Those pages should be included.
[04:35] <Deaglebear> !apt-get
[04:35] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:35] <psYchotic> gotgenes: I dunno when to file a bugreport, but go ahead, coz they're not in any ubuntu package
[04:35] <tickeshe> does anyone knows about how to install grub in nUbuntu?
[04:35] <psYchotic> also, jatt: why wouldn't it be a good idea t omix debian and ubuntu packages?
[04:35] <jatt> gotgenes: please do
[04:36] <jatt> psYchotic: because they are different distributions
[04:36] <tickeshe> i have a prob regarding with the grub thing... my installation wont finish
[04:36] <gotgenes> n2diy: no info pages when doing a $ locate grep | grep info
[04:36] <Deaglebear> does anyone know the apt-get for flash
[04:36] <n2diy> gotgenes: hmm, I have them here on Dapper, are you using Edgy?
[04:36] <gotgenes> n2diy: yes, Edgy
[04:37] <psYchotic> jatt: they're not so different, ubuntu is based on debian, so their basic structures are almost identical, and besides, it's not a problem to install most debian packages in ubuntu, unless they're important packages, and the packages you're installing are some kinda early version or something
[04:37] <tickeshe> is there any other alternatives to install grub manually?
[04:37] <n2diy> gotgenes: Ok, now I have another reason not to "upgrade."
[04:37] <tickeshe> i mean how do i install it manually?
[04:37] <csparks> how do I add something to the Places menu?
[04:37] <trev_> does anyone know any good spots to download ubuntu themes?
[04:38] <tickeshe> trev_ just search it in google
[04:38] <psYchotic> gotgenes: yeah, apparently, the info for grep is in the breezy reps
[04:38] <tickeshe> you can find it there
[04:38] <trev_> just did thx
[04:38] <gotgenes> psYchotic: http://tinyurl.com/36wgnw Saw that too
[04:38] <nick01> does ubuntu come with ntfs-3g ?
[04:39] <tickeshe> anyone who can help me whith nUbuntu?
[04:39] <lecaros> !ntfs-3g
[04:39] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:39] <nick01> I c tks
[04:39] <n2diy> ! nubuntu
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <psYchotic> gotgenes: I suppose it's a litlle mistake by whoever might have packaged grep for ubuntu dapper
[04:40] <n2diy> tickeshe: what is nubuntu?
[04:40] <tickeshe> www.nubuntu.org
[04:40] <gotgenes> The plot thickens--aparently the Debian packages for Testing lack the info file, too
[04:40] <gotgenes> and since Ubuntu gets their packages from Debian
[04:40] <lilly> how can i change the font size of gnome panel?
[04:41] <n2diy> psYchotic: I running Dapper, and I have grep docs.
[04:41] <tickeshe> try to visit there site... its ubuntu in fluxbox..hehehe
[04:41] <linuxuser05> can ubuntu run on a dell laptop with wireless
[04:41] <psYchotic> n2diy: that's weird, coz they shouldn't be
[04:42] <subzero800> anyone: I just got my printer working, but the margins are incorrect and text overlaps in OpenOffice, any ideas?
[04:42] <psYchotic> n2diy: go look on packages.ubuntu.org, it's not there
[04:42] <tickeshe> how do i install grub manually?
[04:42] <riotkittie> linuxuser05: i'm using a dell laptop. and yes, i use wireless. sometimes.  your wireless may work out of the box, it may need to be config'ed
[04:42] <surgy> when i upgrade my video card (as long as its still invidia) do i have to do anything to the driver or can i just plug and play?
[04:43] <gotgenes> n2diy: I don't see the info file in the Dapper listings http://tinyurl.com/2r9dk9
[04:43] <linuxuser05> is the config hard
[04:43] <n2diy> psYchotic: well, there aren't a lot of them, maybe it isn't the complete set?
[04:43] <ardchoille> surgy, I upgraded my card to a new card and the driver worked. Since there is only one driver for new cards and one for legacy cards, the driver should work if the card is supported.
[04:43] <psYchotic> n2diy: there aren't a lot of what?
[04:44] <n2diy> gotgenes: I wasn't looking for anything in particular, I just did a locate grep, and saw the doc directory.
[04:44] <csparks> how do I add something to the Places menu?
[04:44] <n2diy> psYchotic: grep docs.
[04:44] <psYchotic> linuxuser05: it all depends on the wireless card that your laptop has. If you're lucky, it'll be easy, if not, it might be a little bit hard
[04:44] <gotgenes> n2diy: what does "info grep" give?
[04:44] <surgy> ardchoille: well im using glx, so it should support all the new cards right?
[04:44] <riotkittie> linuxuser05: my wireless worked out of the box, so i'm not sure how difficult it can be on ubuntu
[04:44] <gotgenes> n2diy: if it says "Manpages" at the top, there's no info in Dapper, too
[04:44] <ardchoille> surgy, I would assume so, yes
[04:45] <riotkittie> i did have to toy with madwifi with my other distro but it was really easy
[04:45] <ardchoille> csparks, I added a new hd and added it to the places menu. Are you wanting to add a new drive?
[04:45] <linuxuser05> you want me to tell you the model
[04:45] <n2diy> gotgenes: A doc titled File man pages, node grep.
[04:46] <csparks> ardchoille: I want to add a folder, actually /shared
[04:46] <gotgenes> n2diy: looks like the info pages for grep aren't on Dapper either. Strange
[04:46] <psYchotic> linuxuser05: I'd rather have you look for yourself ;) try http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[04:46] <linuxuser05> dell wireless 1470 dual band WLAN
[04:46] <n2diy> gotgenes: ok, sorry for the wild goose chase.
[04:46] <subzero800> anyone: I just got my printer working, but the margins are incorrect and text overlaps in OpenOffice, any ideas?
[04:47] <gotgenes> n2diy: np, but now to find where the heck they went
[04:47] <psYchotic> gotgenes: so file a bug report, and meanwhile, you might want to install the debian package
[04:47] <psYchotic> gotgenes: since the grep.info.gz is in there
[04:47] <psYchotic> gotgenes: I'll give you a tinyurl
[04:47] <ardchoille> csparks, I know that you can add something to the treeview in nautilus and it will get added to the Places menu too. Open nautilus, click on Filre -> Connect to server and have a look at the "Service Type: Custom Location" Possible use /path/to/folder as the location?
[04:48] <gotgenes> psYchotic: No need to install the whole package, I'll pick it open and just get the info.gz file and stick it in /usr/share/info/ directory.
[04:48] <psYchotic> gotgenes: http://tinyurl.com/2lld8f
[04:48] <psYchotic> gotgenes: well, it's all up to you what you want to do. It's true that it might sound weird to install a whole new package just for the info, but yeah, it's up to you =)
[04:49] <csparks> ardchoille, I will check it out once sec
[04:51] <psYchotic> anyway, I'ma go sleep
[04:51] <fokuslee> all the linux dependencies are kicking my butt
[04:52] <n2diy> fokuslee: what are you trying to install, and how/what are you trying to do it with ?
[04:53] <fokuslee> n2diy oh i already installed im talking about the nvidia-glx
[04:53] <madman91> hey hey hey
[04:53] <fokuslee> n2diy it asked me to install kernelcommon, the i had to pick an older version of restricted modules
[04:54] <n2diy> fokuslee: ok, I don't think they are in the repos, so synaptic wouldn't have helped you anyway.
[04:54] <madman91> what is a good usenet/newsreader in ubuntu? ... good meaning popularly accepted
[04:54] <fokuslee> n2diy yeah i had to add extra repo
[04:54] <n2diy> fokuslee: roger that, I've been in dependency hell, too, god bless synaptic.
[04:54] <fokuslee> why can't we use protage
[04:55] <subzero800> anyone: I just got my printer working, but the margins are incorrect and text overlaps in OpenOffice, any ideas?
[04:55] <ardchoille> fokuslee, Because this isn't gentoo?
[04:55] <fokuslee> n2diy:  yeah but synpatic is pretty good and god bless the good pplz keeping the repo
[04:56] <n2diy> fokuslee: roger that.
[04:56] <csparks> ardchoille, it worked, thanks, not really the place I wanted to it be on the menu, but its there
[04:56] <fokuslee> oh hey my realplayer is really choppy like play 2 frames then stop then play two more sometime later any ideaS?
[04:56] <fluvvell> subzero800; what printer are you using?
[04:56] <ardchoille> csparks, Yeah, that's probably the best you'll get, though.
[04:56] <n2diy> ! printers
[04:56] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:56] <subzero800> a p707 Lexmark
[04:57] <n2diy> ! printers | subzero800
[04:57] <ubotu> subzero800: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:57] <mikejanssen> i wish my printer had drivers in ubuntu...
[04:57] <mikejanssen> = \
[04:57] <fokuslee> I also recommend Ubuntu Hacks by Oreily itz a good beginner book :)
[04:57] <litheum> man the fonts that firefox uses in Ubuntu are just horrendous
[04:57] <subzero800> fluvvell: I used the z600 driver because its supposed to work, but the text overlaps and the margins are fucked
[04:57] <fluvvell> most printers have some kind of compatibilty mode.  Some are just pains
[04:57] <MonkeyINAbaG> http://images.thatimagesite.com/core/3653/3653_image.jpg
[04:58] <mikejanssen> i have a canon mp150
[04:58] <mikejanssen> no work
[04:58] <mikejanssen> heh
[04:58] <fluvvell> subzero800; err I have a family enviroment here sub... kids walking past all the time....
[04:58] <n2diy> ! language | subzero800
[04:58] <ubotu> subzero800: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:58] <subzero800> fluvvell: didnt even realized i did that, sorry
[04:58] <litheum> fluvvell: heh, do you not let your kids walk down the sidwalk or ... go to school?
[04:58] <stian2> i'm never gonna buy any more canon products since they don't make linux drivers for anything. they can burn in a certain hot place for all I care
[04:59] <phaedrus_> can a 200 pin pc2100 ram module be added if the other one is 184 pin pc2100?
[04:59] <litheum> aitch-ee-double-hockey-sticks
[04:59] <fluvvell> litheum: sure, we have standards in the house though.  I keep them and expect the kids to
[04:59] <agent> phaedrus_: i believe that depends on your motherboard... see your manual for details (although my wild guess would be no)
[04:59] <sasuun> ardchoille, well i reinstalled ubuntu and i can neither update using the little icon that pops up at the top right nor can i reload in synaptic
[04:59] <litheum> and you impose them on other people who aren't in your house and who don't know your kids?
[04:59] <litheum> i'm just being belligerent ;)
[05:00] <sasalli> hi to all!
[05:00] <gotgenes> n2diy, psYchotic: http://tinyurl.com/2r3v2f The info pages are under a non-free license (GFDL) and can't be included in the packages anymore :-( Now we know what happened
[05:00] <ardchoille> sasuun, Want to pastebin your sources.list again?
[05:00] <jmdc> I'm trying to set up sshd. The server lives behind a dsl modem/router. Machines on this side of the router can ssh into the box, but other machines out on the net can't. I've set the port forwarding correctly in the router. What else should I look at to try and make this work?
[05:00] <rexbron> how can I convert a tar.bz2 to tar.gz?
[05:00] <sasuun> !paste
[05:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <sasalli> is it possible to install *.sh files ?
[05:00] <HymnToLife> rexbron, guzip to get a regular tar, then bzip2
[05:00] <n2diy> litheum: we are in a public place, and the folks that maintain it set the rules, all we are asked to do is follow them.
[05:00] <fluvvell> litheum, no but I am aware this channel has standards too.  yeah
[05:01] <jmdc> sasuun, was that paste directed at me?
[05:01] <HymnToLife> sasalli, .sh files are shell scripts, ru them with ./file.sh
[05:01] <n2diy> gotgenes: well, that explains it.
[05:01] <fluvvell> not trying to start an off topic argument either.
[05:01] <sasalli> ok i'm trying
[05:01] <jarn> All the drivers that CUPS has give me an error at line 1 "unexpected OPTION"
[05:01] <sasuun> uhh no i was just tryin to find the site for pastebin
[05:01] <sasuun> >_>
[05:01] <sasuun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2379/
[05:02] <roho> why was webmin removed? i didn't get any warnings during updates so that my firewall was like OFF for days.
[05:02] <jmdc> sasuun ok. I'm rather ignorant of irq ettiquette
[05:02] <sasuun> lol so am i sorry xD
[05:02] <jmdc> no problem.
[05:02] <stian2> is it possible to get beagle working in xfce?
[05:02] <jmdc> I guess I'm a bad speller too
[05:02] <ardchoille> sasuun, What exactly happens when you try to update? ARe you getting errors? If so what are they?
[05:02] <sasuun> your name changed color!
[05:02] <fluvvell> nuff said, I'm here looking for help in a grub boot reinstall.  anybody changed an ide to sata recently?
[05:02] <sasuun> umm when i try to update i get
[05:03] <sasuun> it shows downloading file 1 of 11
[05:03] <sasuun> and then it says
[05:03] <sasuun> The following problems were found on your system:
[05:03] <sasalli> :-/ i couldn't
[05:03] <sasuun> and it gives a big list of failed to fetch ...
[05:03] <ardchoille> sasuun, Network setup correctly?
[05:03] <sasuun> i think so
[05:04] <sasuun> im plugged in using a cable
[05:04] <sasuun> er is there something else i hafta do?
[05:04] <n2diy> sasuun: ignore the missing repos, they could have come down months ago.
[05:04] <ardchoille> sasuun, open a terminal and: ping archive.ubuntu.com
[05:04] <phaedrus_> Computer: phaedrus-pii | Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 "dapper" | Processor: 334.14Mhz | Model: Pentium II (Deschutes) | Memory: 250MB Free: 148MB []  | Diskspace: 1.80GB Free: 0.70GB | Video: nVidia NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 7.11MB Up: 1.25MB
[05:05] <ejrkejwr> hello all, this is offtopic but does anyone know if Project Gutenberg has an irc channel ?
[05:05] <sasalli> sasalli@sasalli-desktop:~/Desktop$ ./cros.sh
[05:05] <sasalli> bash: ./cros.sh: Permission denied
[05:05] <phaedrus_> hehe
[05:05] <sasuun> its pinging...
[05:05] <rexbron> sasalli: use sudo
[05:05] <ardchoille> sasuun, Ok, now try: ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <sasalli> sasalli@sasalli-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./cros.sh
[05:05] <sasalli> sudo: ./cros.sh: command not found
[05:05] <sasuun> that also works
[05:05] <n2diy> ardchoille: I think sasuun is seeing errors from dead repos.
[05:06] <sasuun> i just installed ubuntu today tho
[05:06] <sasuun> plus i just dled the iso today
[05:06] <ardchoille> n2diy, Think so? Here's his sources.list, can you check it please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2379/
[05:06] <sasalli> any other suggestion?
[05:07] <n2diy> ardchoille: I don't which ones are dead, and which ones arent' but I get similiar messages here, but synaptic works fine.
[05:07] <ardchoille> sasuun, Did you install Dapper or Edgy?
[05:07] <ironnikki> ok i know that this is going to be a dumb question, but im new at this: if im running on an Athlon64, do I have to use the amd64 installer?
[05:07] <sasuun> Dapper
[05:07] <ardchoille> n2diy, He seems to be getting no repos
[05:07] <blaze> Hey all.
[05:07] <ardchoille> sasuun, Try: sudo apt-get update
[05:08] <sasuun> it gets up to 25% then gives a bunch of errors and stops
[05:08] <n2diy> ardchoille: there ya go, I was trying to think of an easy way to test it.
[05:08] <blaze> I am trying to spice up my ubuntu desktop, I have been goin
[05:08] <blaze> disregard that please
[05:09] <sasuun> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:09] <sasuun> it then gives that error
[05:09] <ardchoille> sasuun, This is the first time I've seen apt-get error out ike that.
[05:09] <sasuun> hmmm :(
[05:09] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun ouch, sounds like something is broke.
[05:09] <ericDO> hi
[05:09] <ardchoille> n2diy, YEah, you're right.
[05:09] <ironnikki> ok i know that this is going to be a dumb question, but im new at this: if im running on an Athlon64, do I have to use the amd64 installer?
[05:09] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun aptitude?
[05:09] <NeoGeo64> how do i install ubuntu on my nes
[05:09] <sasuun> whats aptitude?
[05:10] <ardchoille> sasuun, try: sudo aptitude update
[05:10] <sasuun> oh ok
[05:10] <wasabi_> ironnikki: "amd64" is the name of the x86-64 arch.
[05:10] <ardchoille> n2diy, IF that doesn't work, I'd suspect APT itself
[05:10] <sasuun> it also errors out at 25%
[05:10] <wasabi_> ironnikki: Not much to do with the processor itself.
[05:10] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun another front end to apt-get, like synatic.
[05:10] <ardchoille> n2diy, Sounds like apt itself, not the front-ends
[05:10] <wasabi_> ironnikki: If you have an AMD64, you can run both the i386 distribution, or the amd64 distribution.
[05:10] <wasabi_> One is 64 bit. One isn't.
[05:10] <n2diy> synatic/synaptic*
[05:10] <HymnToLife> wasabi_, Intel calls it AM64T, though it's just a reimplementation of AMD's
[05:10] <mikejanssen> yeah
[05:11] <ironnikki> thanks i appreciate it
[05:11] <mikejanssen> im on an amd64 running the i386
[05:11] <wasabi_> HymnToLife: "EM64T"
[05:11] <HymnToLife> yep, sorry
[05:11] <ironnikki> im trying to install it, but its not working at all
[05:11] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun have we tried apt-get update?
[05:11] <wasabi_> What part is not working?
[05:11] <sasuun> yeah
[05:11] <gabaryah> wine client error:31: version mismatch 218/232.
[05:11] <jkw> To enable OpenGL, is it as simple as adding Load "opengl" in xorg.conf? (In the Module-section)
[05:11] <ardchoille> sasuun, I don't know how to fix it, but it sounds to me like APT is messing up, so the front-ends won't work either.
[05:11] <ardchoille> n2diy, yeah, no joy
[05:11] <gabaryah> i just updated wine & now i'm getting this error
[05:11] <wasabi_> jkw: No. You just need to install opengl capable drivers.
[05:11] <ironnikki> it freezes right after i boot the disk and select the install/run from disk option
[05:12] <sasuun> hmm *sigh* oh well
[05:12] <wasabi_> ironnikki: Unfortunate. =(
[05:12] <HymnToLife> jkw, you'll also need to install proper drivers for your graphics card
[05:12] <ironnikki> i disabled the quiet and the last thing that it was trying to do was mounting the system
[05:12] <jkw> wasabi_: I just installed the Nvidia drivers in Synaptic :S
[05:12] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, never mind, I'm losing mine. :)
[05:12] <wasabi_> jkw: You need to change the driver to "nvidia"
[05:12] <wasabi_> And install nvidia-glx
[05:12] <HymnToLife> jkw, OpenGL should be enabled then
[05:12] <HymnToLife> try running some random opengl game and see
[05:12] <wasabi_> glxgears
[05:13] <HymnToLife> also
[05:13] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, I running Dapper here, so if I can test something let me know.
[05:13] <jmdc> if machines on the local side of a router can ssh into this box, and the router is set up to forward tcp packets with port n to this box's ip, and sshd is set to listen to port n, should ssh connections from the other side of the router work?
[05:13] <jkw> wasabi_: Yeah, i took nvidia-glx. Thought it updated xorg.conf automatically. :D
[05:13] <ardchoille> sasuun, I have a couple commands for you to try, open a terminal and lemme know when ready.
[05:13] <jmdc> or am I missing something?
[05:13] <wasabi_> jkw: It shouldn't.
[05:13] <sasuun> ok
[05:13] <HymnToLife> jkw, IIRC, it does
[05:13] <sasuun> im ready
[05:13] <wasabi_> HymnToLife: Shouldn't.
[05:13] <HymnToLife> agreed
[05:13] <wasabi_> HymnToLife: Just because you have the package installed doesn't mean you want to use the driver.
[05:13] <HymnToLife> but it still does
[05:13] <wasabi_> Never has for me. :)
[05:13] <HymnToLife> wasabi_, well you need to run an extra command for it
[05:14] <wasabi_> The driver now appears in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, though.
[05:14] <HymnToLife> sudo glx-config enable IIRD
[05:14] <HymnToLife> s/D/C
[05:14] <wasabi_> oh. well, he needs to do that then.
[05:14] <jkw> Driver "nv"
[05:14] <HymnToLife> !nvidia | jkw
[05:14] <ubotu> jkw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <ardchoille> sasuun, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak && sudo sed -i 's/us.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, dpkg reconfigure apt-get?
[05:14] <HymnToLife> that will tell you how to enable it
[05:14] <ardchoille> sasuun, That is one long command, paste it into term and run
[05:15] <sasuun> ok i pasted it
[05:15] <ardchoille> n2diy, I am wondering if it's the US repos messing up again
[05:15] <jkw> HymnToLife: I'll check that, thanks!
[05:15] <ardchoille> sasuun, Did you run it?
[05:15] <sasuun> should i try the dpkg thing again?
[05:15] <sasuun> and yeah i ran the cp one
[05:15] <sasuun> er the long command thing
[05:15] <ardchoille> sasuun, Now try: sudo apt-get update
[05:15] <alyssa_> hello room!
[05:16] <sasuun> same thing happened as be4
[05:16] <jmdc> even suggestions for other places to look for information would be awesome
[05:16] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, dpkg reconfigure apt-get?
[05:16] <ardchoille> sasuun, Ok, so it's not a faulty US repo. Try what n2diy is saying
[05:16] <sasuun> uh i tried it
[05:16] <sasuun> and it says need an action option
[05:17] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, I'm not sure of the syntax, just winging it off the top of my head.
[05:17] <alyssa_> has anyone had success with using terminal client to remote to XP?
[05:17] <ardchoille> sasuun, sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt-get
[05:17] <n2diy> ! reconfigure
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <n2diy> ! dpkg reconfigure
[05:17] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1587 kB, installed size 4892 kB
[05:17] <ardchoille> n2diy, Need a "=" in there
[05:17] <ardchoille> "-"
[05:18] <sasuun> Package `apt-get' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:18] <sasuun> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[05:18] <sasuun> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[05:18] <sasuun> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: apt-get is not installed
[05:18] <ardchoille> Whoa
[05:18] <HymnToLife> sasuun, what exactly do you want to do ?
[05:19] <sasuun> uh update or use synaptic
[05:19] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, whoa is right!
[05:19] <sasuun> >_>
[05:19] <ardchoille> n2diy, lol
[05:19] <jkw> err, i get a error when doing 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable', it tells me I haven't installed nvidia-glx, which I have :S
[05:19] <ardchoille> sasuun, Try: which apt-get
[05:19] <alyssa_> sasuun, Cant you download and install apt-get?
[05:19] <HymnToLife> sasuun, what's the problem with your apt ?
[05:19] <M1screant> can anyone help me debug a simple 5 line bash script? im kind of a noob and cant find what I'm doing wrong here
[05:19] <sasuun> uh it doesnt work lol
[05:19] <HymnToLife> more precisely ?
[05:19] <HymnToLife> what happens when you run it ?
[05:20] <ardchoille> alyssa_, HymnToLife he can't download/install anything
[05:20] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, is dpkg installed?
[05:20] <sasuun> uh it errors out
[05:20] <sasuun> i dont know
[05:20] <HymnToLife> n2diy, of course it is
[05:20] <sasuun> if its installed when you normally first install ubuntu then it should be...
[05:20] <ardchoille> sasuun, Try: which apt-get
[05:20] <jkw> stupid me, not reading properly.
[05:20] <alyssa_> ardchoille, any more than that he cant??!! How about installing from the Dapper/EDGY distro DVD?
[05:20] <sasuun> that gives me /usr/bin/apt-get
[05:20] <HymnToLife> sasuun, which errors ?
[05:20] <n2diy> HymnToLife: welcome to the party, that is what we thought about apt-get, but it isn't installed.
[05:20] <sasuun> um i think most are failed to fetch w/e
[05:21] <sasuun> lol
[05:21] <HymnToLife> n2diy, it obviously is, since which apt-get returned somrthing
[05:21] <alyssa_> n2diy, if it aint installed, how is it showing up on /usr/bin?
[05:21] <ardchoille> alyssa_, We've been trying to track down the problem thus far
[05:21] <HymnToLife> sasuun, network working properly ?
[05:21] <sasuun> i think so?
[05:22] <ardchoille> HymnToLife, he can ping the repos
[05:22] <HymnToLife> all right
[05:22] <HymnToLife> hmm, that's definitely weird
[05:22] <HymnToLife> he can ping but not download from
[05:22] <cryosphere> Hymn:http://pastebin.com/864017
[05:23] <ardchoille> alyssa_, apt-get isn't a package, it's part of another package and so won't show as "installed"
[05:23] <alyssa_> sasuun, ardchoille, n2diy, how about downloading the aptget deb and installing it?
[05:23] <neuratix> somebody who've go a .deb of cinelerra ?
[05:23] <Bob535> Question: What should be entered for horizontal and vertical sync ranges on an LCD display in the xorg.config file?
[05:23] <n2diy> HymnToLife: , alyssa_  I was going on this info. <sasuun> Package `apt-get' is not installed and no info is available.
[05:23] <HymnToLife> n2diy, apt-get is not a package in itself
[05:23] <HymnToLife> but it's part of another one
[05:23] <HymnToLife> !apt
[05:23] <ardchoille> apt-get isn't a package, it's part of another package (APT?) and so won't show as "installed"
[05:23] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:24] <herewer> hi how do i get a .rm file to play in ubuntu
[05:24] <tristan_> So, I added a new harddisk to my ubuntu machine, and made my dvd burner slave instead of master - what should I do to tell ubuntu about this ?
[05:24] <alyssa_> sasuun, ardchoille, n2diy, oh okie.
[05:24] <HymnToLife> !real | herewer
[05:24] <ubotu> herewer: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <ardchoille> He obviously has APT since apt-get tries to work but fails 25% into the task
[05:24] <tristan_> I put /dev/hdd into /etc/fstab instead of /dev/hdc
[05:24] <tristan_> and applications seem to read my dvd burner fine
[05:24] <HymnToLife> sasuun, could you pastebin what you get when running apt-get update so we can see exactly what happens ?
[05:24] <tristan_> but I cannot mount it
[05:25] <HymnToLife> tristan_, do you have a CD in it ?
[05:25] <bulmer> tristan what do you mean you cannot mount it?
[05:25] <tristan_> HymnToLife, yes
[05:25] <HymnToLife> or a DVD, same thing for that matter
[05:25] <HymnToLife> tristan_, what kind of CD ?
[05:25] <tristan_> I have a CD in it and sound juicer comes up and plays it
[05:25] <sasuun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2382/
[05:25] <tristan_> an audio cd
[05:25] <HymnToLife> you can't mount audio CDs
[05:26] <tristan_> but if I type "mount /media/cdrom" nothing happens
[05:26] <tristan_> it actually give an error
[05:26] <tristan_> HymnToLife, why not ?
[05:26] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun posted her pastebin.
[05:26] <ardchoille> HymnToLife, sasuun that's weird
[05:26] <bulmer> missing option tristan
[05:26] <tristan_> I WANT to mount it :D
[05:26] <HymnToLife> tristan_, because they don't have an iso9660 filesystem
[05:26] <HymnToLife> what do you want to mount it for, anyway ?
[05:26] <tristan_> So I can copy it
[05:26] <tristan_> haha
[05:27] <HymnToLife> !rip
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <anirudha> hi, has anyone successfully installed an HP printer on Ubuntu. I used CUPs to install HP 656C but it doesn't print out document.
[05:27] <HymnToLife> well
[05:27] <HymnToLife> you don't need to mount it to copy it
[05:27] <tristan_> how do I get the data onto the disk ?
[05:27] <HymnToLife> do you want to do an exact copy or rip/encode the tracks ?
[05:27] <bulmer> all devices need to be mounted to be read
[05:27] <tristan_> dd if=/dev/hdd ?
[05:27] <daddydoc> howdy
[05:28] <tristan_> just an exact copy
[05:28] <tristan_> bulmer, quite true
[05:28] <wastrel> "Ubunto"
[05:28] <tristan_> this is my fstab entry:
[05:28] <tristan_> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:28] <HymnToLife> tristan_, then you dan just dump an iso with dd
[05:28] <ardchoille> HymnToLife, n2diy I tried pinging archive.ubuntu.com ( sasuun's pastebin) and it works, but I can't ping 195.248.90.35 80 (which is also in the pastebin) DNS issue?
[05:28] <HymnToLife> and then burn it with any burning software
[05:28] <tristan_> hmmm
[05:29] <wastrel> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:29] <blaze> Hey all, I am trying to customize my Ubuntu desktop, and I am having trouble installing new themes for my computer. Do I have to intall each component seperately? Ie Gtx? Also are there any good resources on cutomizing your desktop?
[05:29] <Bob535> Question: What should be entered for horizontal and vertical sync ranges on an LCD display in the xorg.config file?
[05:29] <wastrel> what's gtx?
[05:29] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, yes, or an IP blocking the connection? All the failed IPs are the same address.
[05:29] <ardchoille> n2diy, Ah, right
[05:29] <daddydoc> can someone help me figure out how to save data from a damage ubuntu raid system?
[05:29] <HymnToLife> sasuun, that's definitely your network not working properly
[05:29] <HymnToLife> are you behind a proxy or something
[05:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> where do i go for help if i want to install mac os with ubuntu onto my desktop computer, is there a channel?
[05:29] <HymnToLife> ?
[05:30] <ardchoille> sasuun, It's looking like this isn't a problem with your installed system now
[05:30] <sasuun> hm im not behind a proxy
[05:30] <blaze> isint the menu editor?
[05:30] <wastrel> Bob535:  i don't even have horiz & vert sync lines in my xorg.conf
[05:30] <sasuun> oh hmm
[05:30] <HymnToLife> also, try downloading something with wget and see if it works
[05:30] <sasuun> could it be a firewall?
[05:30] <HymnToLife> maybe
[05:30] <Bob535> wastrel thanks
[05:31] <blaze> okay then how do I install a theme?
[05:31] <HymnToLife> Balsamic_Chicken, the !forums have some howtos about it IIRC
[05:31] <daddydoc> I crashed a raid system, but need to recover some data.  anyone know how?
[05:31] <HymnToLife> blaze, what kind of theme ?
[05:31] <ardchoille> sasuun, Try this, but don't install the .deb, just a test of downloading: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/a52dec/liba52-0.7.4-dev_0.7.4-1_i386.deb
[05:31] <Balsamic_Chicken> !forums
[05:31] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[05:32] <blaze> GTK
[05:32] <sasuun> it downloaded
[05:32] <ardchoille> sasuun, Sounds to me like a DNS problem
[05:32] <HymnToLife> ardchoille, definitely not, the IP is correct
[05:32] <wastrel> blaze:  system > preferences > theme > install theme   ?
[05:32] <blaze> yeah that didn't work.
[05:32] <ardchoille> HymnToLife, n2diy  195.248.90.35 80 Wouldn't that be a router IP?
[05:33] <HymnToLife> nope
[05:33] <Giant_sea_turtle> !flubox
[05:33] <ardchoille> oh, ok
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flubox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <blaze> I want my desktop to be similar to this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45837
[05:33] <HymnToLife> that's the IP of archive.ubuntu.com
[05:33] <Giant_sea_turtle> !flu-box
[05:33] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, if it was a dns problem, how did sasuun find that DL?
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flu-box - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <ardchoille> n2diy, Good point
[05:33] <wastrel> blaze:  ~/.themes
[05:33] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, I'm thinking firewall, sasuun can you shutdown your firewall?
[05:34] <sasuun> um i dont know how to
[05:34] <wastrel> Giant_sea_turtle:  fluxbox ?
[05:34] <ardchoille> sasuun, Which firewall you using?
[05:34] <Giant_sea_turtle> !fluxbox
[05:34] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:34] <ardchoille> s/firewall/firewall app/
[05:34] <sasuun> its either part of my router or part of the dsl not sure which
[05:34] <jmoncayo> anyone here knows if dd-wrt micro v23sp2 will fit on a wireless router linksys wrt54g
[05:35] <wastrel> HymnToLife:  host archive.ubuntu.com
[05:35] <Jedrick> how can i copy a folder to another ?  "cp" won't work
[05:35] <fluvvell> !grub
[05:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:35] <bulmer> Jedrick: make sure you have the correct permission on both source and destinations
[05:35] <jmoncayo> Jedrick: cp -fr
[05:35] <wastrel> why f
[05:35] <wastrel> why do you tell them to use f
[05:35] <jmoncayo> to force it
[05:35] <wastrel> it is not necessary and generally not helpful to use f
[05:36] <lecaros> !emerald
[05:36] <cryosphere> can anyone tell if the following /etc/network/interfaces could somehow prevent ubuntu from connecting to the internet
[05:36] <talisein> Jedrick: did you try cp -r?
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <wastrel> don't make a habit of using f
[05:36] <cryosphere> http://pastebin.com/864017
[05:36] <bulmer> you cant force if you dont have the correct permissions
[05:36] <wastrel> use f if you need it
[05:36] <jmoncayo> wastrel: well its better than being typing yes like 300 times
[05:36] <HymnToLife> yep, f is generally a switch to use with care
[05:36] <Jedrick> jmoncayo:  thnx
[05:36] <jmoncayo> np
[05:36] <Jedrick> what does -fr stands for?
[05:36] <HymnToLife> f is force
[05:36] <daddydoc> anyone know how to mount a hd or just part of a partition? from a live cd?
[05:36] <HymnToLife> r is recursive
[05:36] <jmoncayo> force and recursive
[05:36] <wastrel> jmoncayo:  given that he wants to copy a folder, i assume the destination doesn't yet exist.
[05:37] <talisein> man cp is the manual
[05:37] <wastrel> so you wouldn't have to type yes ever
[05:37] <Jedrick> ok
[05:37] <wastrel> if the destination does exist, perhaps he has made a mistake and would not want to blow away the existing data there
[05:37] <sasuun> what if i try doing apt-get through a proxy? could that bypass my firewall?
[05:37] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, I bet her ISP is blocking her?
[05:37] <jmoncayo> wastrel: well its good to know the f i you overwriting stuff
[05:37] <n2diy> her/his*
[05:37] <wastrel> telling newbies to use -f is dangerous for the newbie
[05:37] <sasuun> lol im a guy =P
[05:37] <ardchoille> n2diy, Well, at any rate, it's not a problem with his box.
[05:38] <wastrel> love your newbies!  do not hurt them!
[05:38] <bulmer> sasuun: the proxy has to know the protocols or else it will not pass through
[05:38] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, agreed, sasuun can you call your ISP and see if they are blocking stuff?
[05:39] <ardchoille> sasuun, I can't help you any further from here as I am no good with TCP/IP or ISP's. but I can recommend you post this problem on http://ubuntuforums.org and see what kind of replies you get.
[05:39] <sasuun> i already tried posting it
[05:39] <ardchoille> sasuun, Oh, ok,
[05:39] <jmoncayo> wastrel: oki i will have that in mind from now on
[05:39] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, or, go to www.grc.com, and run their "shields up" util, that will tell you what is being blocked.
[05:39] <jmoncayo> sorry
[05:39] <ardchoille> sasuun, I'd try what n2diy said
[05:40] <wastrel> i didn't mean to rant :] 
[05:40] <wastrel> i just love the newbies soooooooooooooooooo much
[05:40] <ardchoille> wastrel, rants are sometimes good :)
[05:40] <sasuun> do i need xp to run that?
[05:40] <n2diy> What port does apt-get communicate on?
[05:40] <ardchoille> sasuun, no
[05:40] <RedEyess> Hi
[05:40] <RedEyess> anoyone using a laptop with a dual core centrino?
[05:40] <jmoncayo> :D
[05:40] <ctothej> im having an issue running a java application from a bash script. i keep getting InvocationTargetException. any reason?
[05:40] <userbn> haiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:40] <sasuun> how do i use that site then?
[05:40] <RedEyess> if so, what's the wireless like with ubuntu?
[05:40] <jmoncayo> there is few people like you
[05:41] <jmoncayo> wastrel: keep up dude, there should be more people like you
[05:41] <HymnToLife> RedEyess, if your card has proper drivers, it's a breeze
[05:41] <HymnToLife> if not, it can be really painful
[05:41] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, surf to it with your web browser, and click on "shields up."
[05:42] <sasuun> um ok im on the shieldsup site
[05:42] <wastrel> n2diy:  at a guess if the sources.list says http, it's 80 if ftp it's 21   but it's really just a guess.
[05:43] <n2diy> wastrel: roger that, tnx.
[05:43] <RedEyess> hmmm
[05:44] <RedEyess> any IBM laptop people here tonight
[05:44] <cyhawk> I have a small simple question, but how do i determine which version of nvidia driver i'm currently using?
[05:44] <sasuun> uhh its giving me some ShieldsUp!! Services am i supposed to choose from those?
[05:44] <RedEyess> with a centrino processor
[05:45] <chivosolar> hey there, I just installed ntfs-3g and it works for my ide drives but not the usb connected ntfs drive.
[05:45] <talisein> wastrel: you're right in that it connects to the other computer's post 80, but outgoing I think it uses a random port
[05:45] <chivosolar> how do I setup the usb drives to use ntfs-3g
[05:46] <vejan> evening all
[05:46] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, take a look at that paste bin again, the ip address is afu, it has 14 digits, instead of 12, should the last two, be :80, and not 80!?
[05:46] <vejan> whats better to get remote access to your server?
[05:47] <n2diy> should/shouldn't*
[05:47] <talisein> vejan: ssh
[05:47] <vejan> k
[05:47] <wastrel> talisein:  the outbound connection (from ubuntu to the repo) would be 80 , the replys back would be random outside of the well-known ports range i guess.
[05:47] <vejan> quit
[05:47] <wastrel> my networking is rusty :p
[05:47] <bulmer> chivosolar: i think you need to format your usb drives to be ntfs compatible
[05:47] <chivosolar> it is already formatted ntfs and mounts as so
[05:48] <talisein> vejan: the package is probably openssh-client and openssh-server
[05:48] <ardchoille> n2diy, I'm wondering why the "80" is there at all
[05:49] <sasuun> is there some way to change it?
[05:49] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, :80 is the http port, sasuun, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.lst?
[05:49] <chronographer> HI all, i got an easy question, i think!  -here goes-  how do I make my new partition, which is correctly mounted, read/write by user?  ( its only root access obviously now)
[05:50] <riotkittie> uhm.
[05:50] <chronographer> it looks like this now:  /dev/hdb2	/media/hdb2	ext3	defaults,rw,user	0	1
[05:50] <sasuun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2384/
[05:50] <sasuun> ^my sources.list
[05:50] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, roger, going to take as look.
[05:50] <chivosolar> but it did not engage for the usb
[05:51] <sasuun> i'm able to ping 195.248.90.35 just not from port 80
[05:51] <ardchoille> n2diy, I don't see a prob with his sources
[05:51] <bulmer> chivosolar: dont forget ntfs-3g is still considered beta..it probably does not support usb yet
[05:52] <Daverocks> sasuun: ping isn't IP, it doesn't use ports
[05:52] <riotkittie> heh
[05:52] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, no, I don't see a problem either, but where is the extra 80 coming from?
[05:52] <sasuun> oh hm
[05:52] <ardchoille> sasuun, HAs this been a problem all along? Other installs of Dapper? or is this a new problem?
[05:53] <PirateHead> Problems with ubotu?? If I can't trust the IRC bot, how can I possibly trust the distro?!
[05:53] <sasuun> yeah this has happened every time i installed dapper
[05:53] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, it is a fresh install, I think, less then a couple hours old.
[05:53] <ardchoille> n2diy, I think so
[05:53] <sasuun> yeah i just dled the iso this afternoon
[05:53] <jmoncayo> sorry to ask this here but what do you mean with power cycle your router?
[05:54] <sasuun> but i had another iso from like last august
[05:54] <ardchoille> sasuun, Did you do anything strange after the install? Maybe run a setup script or something?
[05:54] <chivosolar> bulmer, well im thinkin that the usb drivers stuff has some lines of code like fstab does and there it needs to be tweaked to add the -3g to the type of ntfs
[05:54] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, did you re-install after removing automatix?
[05:54] <sasuun> yeah i did
[05:54] <sasuun> i didnt do anything strange
[05:54] <ardchoille> ok
[05:54] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, ok.
[05:54] <sasuun> the first thing i tried was updating
[05:54] <mikejanssen> does rythmbox work with syncing to an ipod?
[05:55] <mikejanssen> it recognizes it just fine, just cant see any 'sync' options
[05:55] <talisein> mikejanssen: it didn't get mine to work. I had to use gtkpod
[05:55] <bulmer> chivosolar: possibly, again its still considered beta..
[05:55] <ardchoille> sasuun, Can you pastebin the output of: sudo iptables --list
[05:55] <ardchoille> It should be quite empty
[05:55] <PirateHead> mikejanssen: I don't think syncing is built in, look at alternatives.
[05:56] <mikejanssen> k
[05:56] <mikejanssen> thanks
[05:56] <chivosolar> bulmer, that may be but it seems to write fine to the ide
[05:56] <sasuun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2385/
[05:56] <somerville32> Is it possible to add a group to a group?
[05:56] <PirateHead> mikejanssen, talisein: I've never used gtkpod, but honestly you could write a perl script that syncs an ipod and a music library pretty easily =D
[05:56] <ardchoille> sasuun, Ok, that's typical after a fresh install
[05:56] <wastrel> somerville32:  i don't think so
[05:57] <PirateHead> somerville32: clarify what you mean.
[05:57] <somerville32> Lets say I have group a and group b
[05:57] <chivosolar> but with ide the fs-type is defined in fstab where as in usb it is not. usb just needs to be told to use the new fs-type of ntfs-3g
[05:57] <talisein> PirateHead: the problem isn't copying the mp3s, the problem is writing to the ipod's internal data structure that tells it there is other musics
[05:57] <somerville32> and I want all of group a members to be a member of group b automagically
[05:57] <sasuun> i could try apt-get again from somewhere else like my school
[05:57] <sasuun> well some other day
[05:57] <bulmer> somerville32: you may want to look at acl,  man getfcl and setfcl for better control of access
[05:57] <ardchoille> sasuun, That would be a good test, yes
[05:57] <sasuun> ok then well i guess i'll just stop for today
[05:58] <PirateHead> talisein: maybe I just don't know enough about ipods.
[05:58] <cryosphere> if anyone can figure out why I can't connect in xububtu let me know  see http://pastebin.com/864042
[05:58] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, are you using your school's servers?
[05:58] <sasuun> um not currently
[05:58] <adub> is there a linux usb driver for bb5 nokia pda phones
[05:58] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, ok.
[05:58] <riotkittie> then unmount  it and remount it with -t ntfs-3g
[05:59] <ardchoille> sasuun, If it works ok at your school, then I would suspect either your router/modem or you ISP
[05:59] <sasuun> all right
[05:59] <riotkittie> and see if that works, chivosolar
[05:59] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, can you access your router config?
[05:59] <sasuun> yeah
[05:59] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, we haven't looked there yet!?
[06:00] <sasuun> >_>
[06:00] <daddydoc> #
[06:00] <daddydoc>     /msg nickserv set email sjhough@gmail.com
[06:00] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, And frankly, I don't know where else to look. :/
[06:01] <sasuun> hmm
[06:01] <sasuun> well is there anything i would hafta change for my router settings?
[06:01] <sasuun> i dont think its blocking anything
[06:01] <chivosolar> so where do i find these usb config files somewhere that calls the fs-type when it finds an ntfs drive
[06:01] <sasuun> or at least its at its factory default
[06:01] <chivosolar> riotkittie, ok ill try that
[06:02] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, ?, I get lost playing with my own router.
[06:02] <chivosolar> how do I do usb mount from command line ???
[06:02] <sasuun> lol so do i >_> so i dont wanna screw it up
[06:02] <chivosolar> ;^(
[06:02] <ardchoille42> n2diy, sasuun I've used 11 different distros and I;ve never had to touch my router config
[06:03] <sasuun> hmm
[06:03] <cryosphere> this sucks, I've been trying get ubuntu to get online for the last 12 hours
[06:03] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, So we are dead in the water, except for that 80 at the end of the URLs.
[06:03] <daddydoc> anyone know how to mount partitions from a raid drive?
[06:03] <sasuun> lol
[06:04] <capunk_> surabaya
[06:04] <sasuun> there shouldnt be any difference between using a ethernet cable and using wireless internet right?
[06:04] <capunk_> surabaya
[06:04] <wastrel> ethernet is faster
[06:04] <cryosphere> if you think you can help see http://pastebin.com/864042, that pretty summarizes everything I know about my situation right now
[06:04] <ardchoille42> sasuun, You on wireless on a laptop?
[06:04] <wastrel> but your wirelss should saturate any consumer internet connection so no diff.
[06:04] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, could you paste bin the apt-get output again, maybe if we show it to the entire list, they will have a clue.
[06:04] <ardchoille42> sasuun, I've never used wireless so I don't know
[06:04] <sasuun> uh no im using the cable
[06:05] <wastrel> hm.
[06:05] <sasuun> but i want to get wireless xD
[06:05] <riotkittie> wireless is rad. i am glad my neighbors have it. :x
[06:05] <sasuun> i need the ndiswrapper tho cept it wasnt working very well
[06:05] <capunk_> surabaYA
[06:05] <capunk_> surabaYA
[06:05] <n2diy> riotkittie: bad kitty! :)
[06:06] <IntuitiveNipple> WPA2 keeps bad kitties at bay
[06:06] <riotkittie> n2diy:  i know, i know. i dont really use it, save for the rare occasion i am using the laptop in bed :x
[06:06] <ardchoille42> riotkittie, lol!
[06:06] <sasuun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2387/
[06:06] <sasuun> theres my apt-get update output
[06:06] <n2diy> riotkittie: Need to know!?
[06:07] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, could you paste bin the apt-get output again, maybe if we show it to the entire list, they will have a clue.
[06:07] <sasuun> ^
[06:07] <shrndegruv> how do i tell if my super key works?
[06:07] <ardchoille42> n2diy,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2387/
[06:07] <riotkittie> yay, IntuitiveNipple.
[06:08] <n2diy> ardchoille: sasuun, roger.
[06:08] <IntuitiveNipple> tehehe
[06:08] <IntuitiveNipple> It's 5am too, grrrrrrrr
[06:08] <riotkittie> i want to build a kernel. i dont need to, by any means. but. ooh. :D
[06:08] <ardchoille42> eeewwww, 5am
[06:08] <terapicodave> shrndegruv: what's a superkey? for nds?
[06:08] <capunk_> surabaYA
[06:08] <shrndegruv> the "windows" key (ssshhh)
[06:08] <riotkittie> whats with this surabaYA?
[06:08] <shrndegruv> none of my beryl effects the depend on it work even though they are enabled
[06:08] <Kr0ntab> not necessarily ubuntu specific... but curious to know if anyone has a hint as to whether or not an interface exists for the MS zune in Linux.  I know creative's Zen players can be managed through Gnomad2... but what about Zune.  Anyone have any input?
[06:09] <ardchoille42> Windows key? I took a marker and drew tux on it, lol
[06:09] <n2diy> Help, could someone look at this pastebin, and explain what is happening with the munged URLs at the end of it?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2387/
[06:09] <ctothej> java is telling me the the Current locale is not supported. how can i change this?
[06:09] <Kr0ntab> ardchoille42, a little penguin sticker would probably do nicely, eh?
[06:10] <ardchoille42> Kr0ntab, Indeed
[06:10] <scoop> I got a newbie question
[06:10] <ardchoille42> What's the scoop, scoop?
[06:10] <ctothej> !ask | scoop
[06:10] <ubotu> scoop: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:10] <riotkittie> ask away, our newfound newbie friend
[06:10] <scoop> I have xp, I burned the live cd and it worked, what do I need to do before I install it? do I have to partition anything?
[06:11] <riotkittie> oh man. xorg is driving me insane.
[06:11] <chivosolar> how does this look ? am I missing anything on the end ?
[06:11] <chivosolar> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda /media/chris1
[06:11] <wastrel> n2diy:  can you ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:11] <ardchoille42> scoop, The installer will handle partitioning unless you have special needs.
[06:11] <scoop> should I defrag first?
[06:11] <ctothej> scoop: you back up your files from windows yet?
[06:11] <ardchoille42> scoop, You going to set up a dual boot system?
[06:11] <scoop> no and yes in that order
[06:12] <n2diy> wastrel: , I'm helping sasuun with this, so include sasuun in your responses, sasuun did you get this?
[06:12] <maher> what' the name of the add remove packages program in the main menu?
[06:12] <ctothej> scoop: do you have free space on any hard drive?
[06:12] <sasuun> uhh get what?
[06:12] <ardchoille42> !dualboot | scoop
[06:12] <ubotu> scoop: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[06:12] <sasuun> oh ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:12] <n2diy> sasuun: see wastrel reply to me at 00:11
[06:12] <wastrel> sasuun:  can you ping archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:12] <wastrel> yes
[06:13] <scoop> will 10gb be enough?
[06:13] <sasuun> yes i can ping it
[06:13] <riotkittie> Xinerama will allow you to clone a screen with one vid device, right?
[06:13] <riotkittie> 10gb is fine
[06:13] <ctothej> scoop: yes
[06:13] <riotkittie> i have 3.5gb. i'd have gone for more, had i been smart :P
[06:13] <ardchoille42> wastrel, The problem seems to be the "80" at the end of the errored IP's in his pastebin
[06:14] <ardchoille42> scoop, Yes, unless you're going to store a large MP3 collection or do DVD movie work.
[06:14] <scoop> can I access my window partition from ubuntu?
[06:15] <wolfwalker> I am a music nut. I am also a total Linux newbie. Is there a chatroom here where fellow linux-based music nuts hang out? I need some program recommendations.
[06:15] <ctothej> scoop: yes. but i would recommend read-only
[06:15] <ardchoille42> scoop, You can read and write to and from fat but I'm not sure about NTFS writing ATM
[06:15] <sasuun> you can get captive cant you?
[06:15] <riotkittie> scoop: yes. if its an NTFS partition, you'll be able to read it. you can  take steps to enable write ability.
[06:15] <n2diy> wolfwalker: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:15] <scoop> so, at the very least I could copy a file over from windows and work with it in ubuntu?
[06:15] <wastrel> have we looked at the sources.list ?
[06:16] <wastrel> my errors when i can't connect to an apt archive are in a diff format.
[06:16] <wolfwalker> I tried offtopic. They directed me to ##linux
[06:16] <wolfwalker> :/
[06:16] <wolfwalker> What I want is more offtopic there than here
[06:16] <n2diy> wolfwalker: ? what did they say in #linux?
[06:17] <ctothej> scoop: yes. but there are better solutions
[06:17] <wolfwalker> They sent me to http://www.last.fm/
[06:18] <maher> wolfwalker: there are linus groups there - that's probably a good place to try
[06:18] <n2diy> wolfwalker: ? and what happened there?
[06:18] <scoop> thanks, you gus have been very helpful
[06:18] <wolfwalker> They sent me to http://www.last.fm/
[06:18] <wolfwalker> Oh, you mean at http://www.last.fm/
[06:18] <wolfwalker> Don't know yet
[06:18] <riotkittie> wee. my laptop's been up for a whole day.
[06:19] <riotkittie> i know that isnt impressive, really. :P but still.
[06:19] <shriphani> riotkittie, i have an uptime of 10 days
[06:19] <n2diy> riotkittie: knock, knock.
[06:20] <riotkittie> n2diy: uhm... who's there?
[06:20] <n2diy> riotkittie: murphy?
[06:20] <riotkittie> murphy...'s law?
[06:20] <n2diy> riotkittie: knock, knock, on some wood!
[06:21] <riotkittie> shriphani: i could never last that long.  well, im sure i could if i wasnt multibooting.
[06:21] <sasuun> btw is make supposed to come with the dapper installation?
[06:21] <ardchoille42> sasuun, You'll have to sudo apt-get install build-essential to get make
[06:21] <riotkittie> sasuun: no. you need to download build-essential, i believe
[06:21] <sasuun> oh poop :(
[06:22] <Hyarion2> hey guys, just thought I'd let you know that after spending all day attempting to get my wireless adapter to work, I finally did it.
[06:22] <n2diy> sasuun: whoa, where are we going now, have you given up on the apt problem?
[06:22] <sasuun> lol well i cant think of anything else to do
[06:22] <Hyarion2> I think there really wasn't even an issue at all, the adapter just doesn't work when you run off the CD, you have to install Ubuntu, heh.
[06:22] <riotkittie> Hyarion2: congrats!
[06:22] <sasuun> if you have anything else you wanna try ill do it but im thinking maybe ill try using my school's servers on monday
[06:22] <pianoboy3333> Right now... grip is using my dvd drive, how do I tell it to use my cd drive?
[06:23] <sasuun> but i was just trying to install ndiswrapper be4 and i needed make
[06:23] <sasuun> cept i couldnt find it
[06:23] <riotkittie> wow, thats weird. i've heard of adapters working on CDs and not with the install... but never the other way aronud :P
[06:23] <n2diy> sasuun: roger that, we didn't get any help on the apt stuff.
[06:23] <maher> what's the name of the add remove packages program in the main menu?
[06:23] <wastrel> do we have a copy of the sources.list file?
[06:23] <ardchoille42> pianoboy3333, Config tab, CD tab, CDRom device = ?
[06:23] <pianoboy3333> ardchoille42: how do I find out my cd device...?
[06:24] <Hyarion2> okay quick question; I'm using Edgy and am interested in installing Beryl, should I use XGL or AIGLX?
[06:24] <wastrel> pianoboy3333:  look at /etc/fstab ?
[06:24] <n2diy> sasuun: well, if you do find it, how are you going to get it without apt-get?
[06:24] <pianoboy3333> Hyarion2: depends on your hardware
[06:24] <riotkittie> depends. what kind of vid card do you have?
[06:24] <sasuun> if i find what? ndiswrapper? or make?
[06:24] <Hyarion2> x800 Pro
[06:24] <ardchoille42> pianoboy3333, I do it the old way, I have two drives, the first cd (master) is /dev/hdc, the 2nd cd (slave) is /dev/hdd
[06:24] <sasuun> lol well either way i wasnt planning to lol
[06:24] <wastrel> grep cdrom /etc/fstab
[06:24] <pianoboy3333> ardchoille42: yep, I got it
[06:24] <wolfwalker> |n2diy:| it's possible to get without apt-get............. but it takes hours, lots of dependency tracking and a litle tylenol :P
[06:25] <n2diy> pianoboy3333: why do you want to shoot the wabbit?
[06:25] <pianoboy3333> lol
[06:25] <dhi-dhi> #/surabaya
[06:25] <n2diy> wolfwalker: yes, exactly.
[06:25] <wolfwalker> I know, I tried a simple download of Audacity
[06:25] <wolfwalker> ARRRGH!
[06:25] <ring> hi
[06:25] <ardchoille42> wolfwalker, Thank $DIETY for package managers, eh?
[06:26] <dhi-dhi> #/surabaya
[06:26] <wolfwalker> I'm hoping Ubuntu will be more stable on the net than kubuntu, otherwise I'll have to stick to the programs that came packaged with the OS
[06:26] <riotkittie> oye, again with the surbaya.
[06:26] <dhi-dhi> /surabaya
[06:26] <Hyarion2> pianoboy3333, riotkittie, with an ATI x800 which would be suitable? Keeping in mind I don't want to go overboard and get all sluggish.
[06:26] <ardchoille42> riotkittie, I think it's a channel
[06:26] <ring> I'm having issues getting X started.  I start X and the screen blanks.  I have an ATI x800xl and a Dell 2005fpw monitor.  I've tried the following drivers: vesa, ati, and fglrx all with the same result.  Anyone have any ideas?
[06:26] <wolfwalker> !surabaya
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surabaya - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <pianoboy3333> Hyarion2: ati doesn't support AIGLX
[06:26] <Hyarion2> pianoboy3333, that narrows it down then :) thanks.
[06:27] <pianoboy3333> Hyarion2: ask these questions in #ubuntu-xgl, that's the support channel for beryl and such, you can also try #beryl
[06:27] <Hyarion2> ah thanks.
[06:27] <Comrade-Sergei> how does unreal tournement install in ubuntu because i know it does it has a script for linux
[06:27] <maher> wolfwalker: audacity is packaged for ubuntu...
[06:28] <ifbermeo> hey does anyone know how to resolve irq conflicts?
[06:28] <wolfwalker> I mean the programs that came on the installer cd I burnt off from the .iso
[06:28] <riotkittie> ring ... at the command line, ... cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)         ... and let us know where its erroring
[06:28] <ring> it doesnt error
[06:28] <ring> the screen blanks
[06:28] <ring> xorg doesn't show any visible errors
[06:29] <ring> i'm at my wits end:(
[06:29] <riotkittie> ifbermeo: with a sledgehammer ?
[06:29] <ring> 1 second though i'll get you output anyway
[06:29] <riotkittie> ok. perhaps hardware smashing isnt the answer
[06:29] <ring> screen blanks and i can't kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace or switch virtual terminals or anything
[06:29] <ifbermeo> does anyone know how i can find some info about this?
[06:29] <maher> ifbermeo: umm... that usually means your kernel is disagreeing with your hardware - try changing one or the other...
[06:30] <sasuun> ring, i have an ati x700 i also got the blank screen
[06:30] <n2diy> ! irq
[06:30] <sasuun> i had to add Option "Monitor Layout" "LVDS,Auto"
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <riotkittie> ring: yuck. have you /never/ been able to start X ?
[06:30] <sasuun> to the monitor section in the xorg.conf
[06:30] <Comrade-Sergei> how does unreal tournement install in ubuntu because i know it does it has a script for linux
[06:30] <borgesvive> hard to say
[06:30] <wolfwalker> !unreal
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unreal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <wolfwalker> :/
[06:31] <wastrel> bye lovelies
[06:31] <ardchoille42> wolfwalker, I was about to try that
[06:31] <ardchoille42> bye wastrel
[06:31] <wolfwalker> I'd say google it
[06:31] <n2diy> ifbermeo: there is, but I can't think of it now, sorry.
[06:31] <ring> sasuun: i will try that
[06:31] <Comrade-Sergei> !unreal
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unreal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <ring> riotkittie: x has never started -- i've tried the alternate install cd etc...
[06:32] <Comrade-Sergei> wolfwalker? do you have it?
[06:32] <wolfwalker> I don't play video games
[06:32] <ifbermeo> is it possible for 2 devices to share an irq and still function?
[06:32] <Comrade-Sergei> hmm who has unreal?
[06:32] <verdRousseau> is anyone here familiar with rubygems?
[06:32] <riotkittie> brb
[06:32] <ring> sasuun: what section did you add Monitor layout to?
[06:32] <ring> monitor?
[06:32] <sasuun> yeah monitor
[06:32] <eeaaxx> anybody where i can download live cd?
[06:32] <verdRousseau> isohunt.com
[06:33] <verdRousseau> eeaaxx
[06:33] <ring> thx
[06:33] <ring> trying now
[06:33] <wolfwalker> Found this http://www.lokigames.com/products/ut/
[06:33] <maher> ifbermeo: in theory yes
[06:33] <wolfwalker> That's unreal tournament for Linux
[06:33] <wolfwalker> Don't know if that's what you want
[06:33] <[sellout] _> hey all, fresh edgy install, nd ive tried both latest and legacy drivers both with apt-get by hand. Also tried the envy script. No matter wht X randomly crashes and dies with this. http://pastebin.ca/323281
[06:33] <benklop> hello
[06:34] <sasuun> poop stupid gaim
[06:34] <Comrade-Sergei> yea but it coes with a thing for linux on the disc i just cant do it in ubuntoo for some reason it works well in gentoo...?
[06:34] <wolfwalker> |[sellout] _:| check the checksum on your .iso download, it may have been buggered in the transfer or while burning it to cd
[06:34] <n2diy> ! ubuntoo
[06:34] <ifbermeo> i am asking because my graphics card and my wireless are sharing the same irq and only my graphics is working
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <wolfwalker> !ubuntu
[06:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:35] <ring> sasuun: no luck, can you paste the line from yuour xorg.conf I want to be sure I have it in correclty
[06:35] <Comrade-Sergei> ?
[06:36] <sasuun> Section "Monitor"
[06:36] <sasuun> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[06:36] <sasuun> 	Option		"DPMS"
[06:36] <sasuun> 	HorizSync	28-51
[06:36] <sasuun> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[06:36] <sasuun> 	Option		"Monitor Layout" "LVDS,Auto"
[06:36] <sasuun> EndSection
[06:36] <Comrade-Sergei> ...\
[06:36] <ring> thats what i got
[06:36] <ring> oh well
[06:36] <sasuun> hmm =\
[06:37] <gabaryah> i'm trying to setup apache can someone tell me where apache default index folder is located
[06:37] <gabaryah> ?
[06:37] <aedrafzt> gabaryah, /var/www
[06:38] <Comrade-Sergei> it says linux-installer.sh
[06:38] <gabaryah> httpd.conf
[06:38] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i get that to run right?
[06:39] <gabaryah> i tried to change ServerRoot but it' must not be the right conf
[06:39] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: in a terminal 'perl linux-installer.sh'
[06:39] <Comrade-Sergei> why perl?
[06:39] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: wait, nope.
[06:40] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: just type it into the terminal.
[06:40] <sivik> if i encrypt a file system that has linux on it, can i still run it and if i make changes, will the changes be encrypted as well or will i have to re-encrypt
[06:41] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: ignore perl, I had a braing cramp.
[06:41] <rredd4> how do i erase a cdrw in dapper?
[06:41] <n2diy> ! perl
[06:41] <sivik> rredd4, use k3b
[06:41] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[06:41] <Comrade-Sergei> vut its working for somereason?>>>
[06:41] <rredd4> sivik  ty
[06:41] <mikejanssen> is there a way to 'safely remove usb device' in linux? like in windows
[06:41] <Comrade-Sergei> wow
[06:41] <mikejanssen> i dont wanna mess up my ipod
[06:41] <mikejanssen> should the 'eject' button work fine?
[06:41] <sivik> mikejanssen, yes, its call umount or eject it
[06:42] <mikejanssen> k
[06:42] <eeaaxx> anybody know what url link can i download ubuntu live-cd?
[06:42] <mikejanssen> cuz in windows, there was eject, then i still had to 'safely remove'
[06:42] <mikejanssen> so i wsa just checking
[06:42] <wolfwalker> !iso
[06:42] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:42] <wolfwalker> Rats
[06:42] <sivik> eeaaxx, go to www.ubuntu.com and then downloads
[06:42] <asdx> hi, why i can't mount a windows xp shared directory with mount //... smbfs/cifs and i can with other distros?
[06:42] <n2diy> ! ubuntu
[06:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:42] <verdRousseau> anyone here familiar with rubygems?
[06:42] <asdx> do i need something installed for that?
[06:42] <mikejanssen> my lady broke up with me...im gonna go have a cigarette in the snow...
[06:42] <sivik> asdz: installed for what
[06:42] <mikejanssen> bbiab yall ubuntu-er's
[06:42] <sivik> mikejanssen, that sucks
[06:43] <riotkittie> ring: i am looking on the forums at the moment for a fix but most of what i see is waht sasuun just pasted. Although there is one post from a guy that didnt work for at all - he posted that he was told to comment everything in xorg.conf with DRI in it out and then X stopped crashing
[06:43] <mikejanssen> heh yea, 2 kids and 4 years later
[06:43] <Comrade-Sergei> n2diy um it says it has no write permission to write to /usr/local/games
[06:43] <riotkittie> but he was limited to a 800x600 res
[06:43] <asdx> sivik: for mount a windows xp shared directory on my fs
[06:43] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i fixy
[06:43] <mikejanssen> shes in the bedroom right now talkin to a dude she met on eharmony
[06:43] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:43] <n2diy> ! ubuntu | eeaaxx
[06:43] <ubotu> eeaaxx: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:43] <sivik> asdx: not sure
[06:43] <mikejanssen> <3 life!!
[06:43] <asdx> sivik: mount //foo/foo /blah -t [smbfs/cifs]  for example
[06:43] <riotkittie> aww, mikejanssen :(
[06:43] <verdRousseau> Unix users will want to put the following line in their .profile (or equivalent):
[06:43] <verdRousseau> where would that be
[06:44] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: does /usr/local/games exsist?
[06:44] <Comrade-Sergei> yes
[06:44] <sivik> asdx, still learning how to do all that nfs stuff at school
[06:44] <Comrade-Sergei> but ut2003 isnt in it is that why
[06:44] <Comrade-Sergei> er ut2004
[06:44] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: what is its permissions?
[06:44] <Comrade-Sergei> ummm
[06:44] <Comrade-Sergei> hold on
[06:44] <NeoGeo64> hello how do i delete ubuntu so i can install vista'
[06:45] <asdx> sivik: the thing is that i have a 8 gb dvd image file on that computer and i need to burn that image, and i can't use cdrecord without mounting that directory on my fs
[06:45] <sivik> asdx: not sure
[06:45] <sivik> NeoGeo64, why on earth would you want to install that crappy os
[06:45] <[sellout] _> wolfwalker, i hve the exact sme issue as described here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210030&page=4&highlight=xf86SigHandler%2B0x81 nd if you see my xorg death, it is identical... open to advice.
[06:45] <Comrade-Sergei> n2diy well it looks good but it says root at top
[06:45] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: we don't practice that here.
[06:45] <Comrade-Sergei> as the owner
[06:45] <NeoGeo64> because microsoft is splendid
[06:46] <sivik> someone needs to kick him out of this channel
[06:46] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[06:46] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: did you try sudo filename?
[06:46] <verdRousseau> where do I edit environmental variables in ubuntu
[06:46] <Comrade-Sergei> ?
[06:46] <Comrade-Sergei> how dio i do that when i have a install in a prompt?
[06:46] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: run your command with sudo at the beginning.
[06:47] <sasuun> how do i run a .run file?
[06:47] <sivik> verdRousseau, using the env command
[06:47] <verdRousseau> so say I wanted to add
[06:47] <Comrade-Sergei> oh ill try
[06:47] <NeoGeo64> windows vista is supposedly secure and has alott of  new features! like tabbed browsing and such
[06:47] <verdRousseau> export RUBYOPT=rubygems
[06:47] <verdRousseau> sivik
[06:48] <chivosolar> ok well that seems to have worked out well
[06:48] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: welcome windows to the 21rst century.
[06:48] <sivik> verdRousseau, man env
[06:48] <verdRousseau> alright thanks
[06:48] <verdRousseau> ill have a look
[06:48] <chivosolar> im writing to a USB mounted ntfs drive. now i only need install this brother printer now which is a little different
[06:48] <sivik> verdRousseau, at least thats what i learned in class
[06:49] <sivik> chivosolar, writing to an ntfs formated drive is not suggested, it probably will screw it up
[06:49] <verdRousseau> sivik, you know of a graphical way to do ti
[06:49] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: supposedly secure, ha ha ha.
[06:49] <verdRousseau> like under administration
[06:49] <sivik> verdRousseau, kde or gnome?
[06:49] <chivosolar> screw up the drive or screw up the file
[06:49] <verdRousseau> gnome
[06:49] <Harry> if i create a user in cli, what's that user's password?
[06:49] <sivik> chivosolar, the file system
[06:49] <NeoGeo64> im gona go spend 2000 on a new computer so i can get all the eye candy and tabbed browsing
[06:49] <Comrade-Sergei> ok thatnks n2diy
[06:49] <chivosolar> so far the matrix plays back fine and I jumped to several parts of the movie
[06:49] <mlingo> hey, i have a powerbook running os x... i dropped it and now my hard drive seems corrupted and won't boot.  i'm trying to retrieve data using an ubuntu live cd, but i can't figure out how to mount it.  can anybody help me?
[06:49] <maher> Harry: what ever you set it to? how did you create the user?
[06:49] <eeaaxx> what link can i download ubuntu live-cd?
[06:49] <sivik> Harry: normally you have to add a password to it, if you don't, that user has no password
[06:49] <mlingo> (ubuntu version 5.10)
[06:49] <brian_> NeoGeo64: Buy an Imac :)
[06:49] <n2diy> Comrade-Sergei: is it working?
[06:50] <Jaymottz22> Integrity test fails on 6.10 server iso, md5 checksum is good on ISO but check says bad md5 on ntfs-..._i386.udeb! Any Ideas?
[06:50] <sivik> eeaaxx, go to downloads, all the normal ubuntu install cds are currently live-cds as well
[06:50] <Harry> i did: sudo adduser web_user
[06:50] <eeaaxx> sivik, been there
[06:50] <NeoGeo64> Is it worth buying a new PC to run Linux?
[06:50] <Harry> but i try to ssh into that user with no pass and it doesn't let me log in
[06:50] <verdRousseau> sivik- do you know of the graphical way in gnome?
[06:50] <Harry> oooh. i bet i have to add the user to ssh, right?
[06:50] <eeaaxx> sivik, i can find live-cd. it has desktop, server, and alternative
[06:50] <sivik> Harry, then there isn't a password for that user, you can set one by using paswd username
[06:50] <sivik> eeaaxx, desktop
[06:50] <Harry> ok. ty
[06:50] <toulouse> ey guys, is there a program i can use to see system temps?
[06:51] <toulouse> and fan speeds and such
[06:51] <riczho> Harry: Did you passwd web_user first?
[06:51] <chivosolar> well i guess I can test all the vdeo files after and see what happens
[06:51] <maher> Harry: /etc/ssh/sshd_config is probably set to not allow blank passwords or something
[06:51] <riczho> Harry: You should probably set a password- by default, I think it's locked.
[06:51] <sivik> Harry, no you don't, as long as you add the user to the machine you should be fine, as long as that user has a password
[06:51] <maher> Harry: blank passwords are a bad idea use public key auth instead
[06:51] <chivosolar> ill let yeah know if they all work or if some or all died
[06:51] <gabaryah> i changed my serverroot & restated apache2 why does it goto the old folder in my broser?
[06:51] <Harry> alrighty. thanks for the help =)
[06:51] <chivosolar> ill test it from some other computer with winxp on it
[06:52] <mlingo> >	hey, i have a powerbook running os x... i dropped it and now my hard drive seems corrupted and won't boot. i'm trying to retrieve data using an ubuntu 5.10 live cd, but i can't figure out how to mount it. can anybody help me?
[06:52] <chivosolar> how do I set up a brother printer
[06:52] <eeaaxx> i'll try to download
[06:52] <eeaaxx> thanks
[06:52] <chivosolar> the printer shows up as a USB Drive
[06:52] <sivik> chivosolar, then you did it wrong
[06:52] <unperson> I'm trying to install Edgy Eft as the sole OS a new system.  The system has 2 SATA HDDs that I'd like to use as a RAID0.  Is it possible to set this up and install with the Edgy liveCD?  I don't quite get what has to happen with /boot, and I read something that said maybe / also can't be on a software RAID.
[06:52] <riczho> gabaryah: You're probably looking to change the documentroot, not the serverroot.
[06:53] <sasuun> how do i kill a process?
[06:53] <toulouse> anyone know a program that can monitor sys. temps and fan speeds?
[06:53] <toulouse> sasuun:
[06:53] <chivosolar> oh it has three card slots on the printer for ram disk type stuff
[06:53] <NeoGeo64> is it worth buying a top of the line gfx card for a linux box?
[06:53] <toulouse> do you want to kill a process or a program?
[06:53] <NeoGeo64> is there any use for it?
[06:53] <sasuun> er a program
[06:53] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: nope
[06:53] <toulouse> just go to system monitor
[06:53] <toulouse> sasuun: system monitor
[06:53] <brian98> NeoGeo64: whats your budget?
[06:53] <Jaymottz22> toulouse: lm_sensors
[06:53] <maher> mlingo: you need a hfsplus file system module afaik
[06:53] <sasuun> ah oh thanks
[06:53] <NeoGeo64> are they any recent 3d games for linux to make use of it
[06:53] <chivosolar> ok so its one of thsoe 6 in one printers with a flat bed scanner
[06:54] <NeoGeo64> i have $5,000
[06:54] <benklop> so ubuntu : debian :: mandriva : redhat ?
[06:54] <chivosolar> i just want to have it print in colour
[06:54] <NeoGeo64> im going to newegg me some new cpu parts
[06:54] <toulouse> Jaymottz22: is that in synaptic by chance?
[06:54] <toulouse> and is it gui?
[06:54] <brian98> NeoGeo64:  Buy a new intel Mac then use parallels desktop to run whatever os you want!!!
[06:54] <mlingo> maher: thanks
[06:54] <sivik> intel is crap
[06:54] <NeoGeo64> Are there any recent games for Linux?
[06:54] <tom47> toulouse lmsensors combinedwith gkrellm is good
[06:54] <sivik> NeoGeo64, go amd
[06:54] <Rageagainstthis> what is a good linux magazine, online or in print
[06:54] <brian98> I have ubuntu XP and vista all running in a window
[06:54] <maher> mlingo: try mount -t hfsplus /dev/xxxx /mnt
[06:54] <brian98> Gives you great choice
[06:54] <sivik> brian98, what is your base system
[06:55] <toulouse> tom47: is that gui? and are those in synaptic
[06:55] <Jaymottz22> Sorry , I don't know that. I use it on Gentoo.
[06:55] <sivik> Rageagainstthis, linux journal
[06:55] <brian98> Imac 24" 3GB RAM 2.33 intel core duo
[06:55] <tom47> toulouse yes
[06:55] <toulouse> thanks guys, i didnt want to reboot and look in bios
[06:55] <brian98> I was using ubuntu on a pc for a long time
[06:55] <brian98> I hate winders
[06:55] <NeoGeo64> I have a problem with my graphics card.  In Windows and Linux when I try and run 3d games (even tuxracer) it runs at .5 fps and freezes the whole system. what could possibly be bad with my card?
[06:55] <brian98> and MacOS is the DOGZ
[06:55] <chivosolar> me too
[06:55] <Rageagainstthis> sivik: thank you
[06:56] <NeoGeo64> i have the nvidia driver
[06:56] <brian98> with parallels you can run any OS you like natively
[06:56] <brian98> no problems
[06:56] <iSeriesSysAdm> sure
[06:56] <brian98> Ubuntu installs in about 4 minutes
[06:56] <brian98>  and runs like a dream
[06:56] <iSeriesSysAdm> sweet
[06:56] <mlingo> maher: it worked!  thanks :] 
[06:56] <iSeriesSysAdm> i was working on that too
[06:57] <wolfwalker> |brian98:| you said you are running Windows XP and Ubuntu at the same time?
[06:57] <cokeslut> hi
[06:57] <brian98> yup
[06:57] <wolfwalker> How do you run two OSs at once?
[06:57] <sivik> wolfwalker, yes, probably with vmware
[06:57] <cokeslut> ok
[06:57] <brian98> www.parallels.com
[06:57] <wolfwalker> Oh
[06:57] <sivik> brian98, vmware?
[06:57] <wolfwalker> Yeah, that
[06:57] <Jaymottz22> Anyone use the 6.10 ubuntu server? I am having issues with the ISO...
[06:57] <brian98> Vmware is nothing compared to parallels I'm afraid
[06:57] <wolfwalker> I had issues with 6.10 iso disc too
[06:57] <brian98> I tried the beta of Vmware fusion
[06:57] <wolfwalker> But only on one computer
[06:57] <NeoGeo64> I have a problem with my graphics card.  In Windows and Linux when I try and run 3d games (even tuxracer) it runs at .5 fps and freezes the whole system. what could possibly be bad with my card? i have the nvidia drivers and everything conf'd right
[06:57] <astrobilly> how can I get totem to play mpeg files?
[06:57] <wolfwalker> The other computer read the disk fine
[06:57] <brian98> and the performance is nothing near what you get from parallels
[06:58] <brian98> disclaimer (I'm not a parallels rep)
[06:58] <brian98> Just love it a lot
[06:58] <wolfwalker> How much does it cost?
[06:58] <chivosolar> ok so How do i find a set up for a USB printer instead of a parralel printer
[06:58] <brian98> do you search on utube for parallels and mac
[06:58] <Jaymottz22> wolfwalker: like md5 errors on modules but not the whole iso?
[06:58] <brian98> and it will give you an idea of the capabilities
[06:58] <brian98> or youtube even
[06:58] <wolfwalker> No, like my computer said something about failing to set up swap and stopped running
[06:59] <wolfwalker> Wouldn't even get to the ubuntu load screen
[06:59] <brian98> If I hit ctrl shift and down arrow I'm in winders
[06:59] <wolfwalker> Kubuntu, same thing
[06:59] <wolfwalker> |brian98:| how much does this paralell cost?
[06:59] <brian98> 70$
[06:59] <wolfwalker> Skip it
[06:59] <brian98> you can try b4 you buy
[06:59] <astrobilly> will totem play mpg files?
[06:59] <Jaymottz22> wolfwalker: what did you do to get it to work?
[06:59] <sivik> brian98, but vmware is free
[06:59] <brian98> yea
[06:59] <wolfwalker> Haven't found anything yet that I couldn't live without that wouldn't work in wine
[06:59] <Hatty> What can I use to burn a .ccd/.sub/.img ?
[06:59] <sivik> astrobilly, no, install mplayer and the w32codecs
[06:59] <brian98> but its not as good
[07:00] <wolfwalker> |Jaymottz22:| I didn't. I went to my other computer. :/
[07:00] <brian98> I have tried both
[07:00] <sivik> astrobilly, it will, but its a beast to get working
[07:00] <maccam94> I've got a new eVGA 680i motherboard, and I need to flash the bios. i've checked their site, but all of the instructions require windows (which I don't have). can anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:00] <toulouse> ey, you guys know how to start up lmsensors?
[07:00] <brian98> Parallels doesn't emulate
[07:00] <brian98> it runs the os natively
[07:00] <sasuun> which codecs are needed for mp3?
[07:00] <sivik> brian98, thats interesting
[07:00] <sivik> sasuun, search mp3
[07:00] <brian98> I mean it runs XP faster on my mac than it runs on my 3.4GHZ PC
[07:00] <wolfwalker> Hold on, I'll try to run the iso again and tell you what happens
[07:00] <brian98> :)
[07:00] <astrobilly> sivik, I have vlc.  How can I make it the default player?
[07:00] <Jaymottz22> wolfwalker: I guess i'll let you know when I figure it out. I'm gunna try a new cd drive...
[07:00] <NeoGeo64> is it normal for ubuntu to take 30 seconds to boot???
[07:00] <frogzoo> !restricted | sasuun
[07:00] <toulouse> tom47: how do i start lmsensors man
[07:00] <ubotu> sasuun: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:00] <gabaryah> anyone know how to change the server root folder on apache
[07:01] <sivik> astrobilly, uninstall totem
[07:01] <frogzoo> NeoGeo64: 30-60seconds, yep
[07:01] <maher> gabaryah: edit the config files in /etc/apache
[07:01] <brian98> gabaryah: nano your httpd.conf
[07:01] <maccam94> NeoGeo64: not unheard of, but it depends on the hardware and software configuration obiously
[07:01] <toulouse> NeoGeo64: that's all it takes ya
[07:01] <gabaryah> i did it's still going to the old location
[07:01] <gabaryah> i restared
[07:01] <n2diy> NeoGeo64: 30 seconds!? I wish mine booted that fast!
[07:01] <NeoGeo64> it takes me 30 seconds to get ubuntu booted
[07:01] <gabaryah> 2 times
[07:01] <tom47> toulouse i knew you'd be back lol ..... let me see if i can find howto for it
[07:01] <brian98> serverroot
[07:02] <brian98> or documentroot
[07:02] <TooR4u> how to download this url svn://svn.audioscrobbler.net/client
[07:02] <toulouse> tom47: i snatched it in synaptic, but i dont know how to do anything else with it
[07:02] <brian98> I can't remember the directive off the top of my head
[07:02] <toulouse> tom47: i saw a kde application that does it, i might try that
[07:02] <brian98> docs at apache.org are really good
[07:02] <gabaryah> i changed my server root line
[07:02] <gabaryah> restarted with no error
[07:03] <gabaryah> it' still going back to default location
[07:03] <TooR4u> what is svn?
[07:03] <n2diy> ! svn
[07:03] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[07:03] <unperson> So no one here has any idea about installing Ubuntu with a software RAID?
[07:03] <toulouse> !lmsensors
[07:03] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[07:04] <wolfwalker> Right
[07:04] <tom47> toulouse try this ..... not sure i have used it thought .... i don't use kde myself you may prfere that onehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[07:04] <wolfwalker> When I try to load ubuntu to one of my computers it does this
[07:04] <wolfwalker> I tell it to set up Ubuntu
[07:04] <wolfwalker> Then it says uncompressing the linux kernel
[07:04] <toulouse> tom47: thanks
[07:04] <wolfwalker> Then it reads for a few dozen seconds
[07:04] <tom47> toulouse this is clickable  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[07:04] <wolfwalker> Then it says setting up swap
[07:05] <wolfwalker> Then it says it can't mount the drive
[07:05] <wolfwalker> Or something like that
[07:05] <maher> wolfwalker: is this from a cd or from an install?
[07:05] <n2diy> ! enter | wolfwalker
[07:05] <ubotu> wolfwalker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:06] <wolfwalker> From a cd
[07:06] <gabaryah> figure it out
[07:06] <n2diy> wolfwalker: at the boot prompt, try F2 and F3, and  explore your options, if nodma is one of them, I would try that.
[07:07] <gabaryah> now how do i copy a folder & all it's content to another location
[07:07] <riczho> gabaryah: cp -R
[07:07] <unperson> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY unperson
[07:07] <wolfwalker> Hmmmm
[07:07] <n2diy> gabaryah: how far do you want to copy them, from one folder to an other, or one system to another?
[07:07] <wolfwalker> I never knew that
[07:07] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[07:07] <unperson> Yikes.  Sorry.
[07:08] <wolfwalker> Basically, when this happens I have to unplug my computer
[07:08] <litheum> your password is the same as your nickname? good plan :)
[07:08] <riotkittie> i did it! i diiiiiiiiid it! i did it! and it was so ridiculously simple.
[07:08] <ardchoille42> litheum, lol
[07:09] <n2diy> riotkittie: danger, kitty has gone into freaked out kitty mode.
[07:09] <n2diy> riotkittie: danger, are you climbing the curtains?
[07:09] <ardchoille42> riotkittie, you choose nicks well :)
[07:09] <riotkittie> n2diy: no. i am merely dancing in my chair. and giggling. like a madwoman
[07:10] <riotkittie> ardchoille42: thank you ;)
[07:10] <n2diy> riotkittie: like?
[07:10] <zeembo> hi eveyone
[07:10] <zeembo> i'm trying to install ubuntu server on a PIII and have a question
[07:10] <unperson> litheum:  No, I was actually fearing it would write to the channel, so I omitted my password.  I'm trying to install on my own computer, so I'm using fire on my GF's mac to chat.  its irc interface is inane.
[07:11] <litheum> unperson: sounds like it was a good plan after all :)
[07:11] <zeembo> when i click "start or install ubuntu" i get the status bar, but then my screen turns black
[07:11] <zeembo> is this part of installation?
[07:11] <riotkittie> i cant believe this. i have been fighting with xorg.conf for like, three weeks? following guides, editting, restarting, pondering smashing my stupid ati mobility m1 ... so on and so forth
[07:12] <n2diy> zeembo: how long does it stay like that? Does the hard drive and CD keep cooking?
[07:12] <chivosolar> so i mrunnin this cups printer setup and on step 3 of 3 it has a place to specify Location:    what the heck am I supposed to use for the location of this local connected usb brother printer
[07:12] <zeembo> the cd starts reading
[07:12] <riotkittie> and the "fix" was so ridiculously simple. i dont believe i didnt find it on the forums. and man, i looked :P
[07:12] <zeembo> n2diy: the cd starts reading
[07:12] <zeembo> but then just steadily stays lit
[07:12] <cafuego_> chivosolar: Just leave it empty
[07:13] <riotkittie> zeembo: are you using the edgy live CD ?
[07:13] <zeembo> and i don't really hear anything happening
[07:13] <zeembo> 6.10
[07:13] <chivosolar> oh ok
[07:13] <frogzoo> riotkittie: that's odd - this fix wasn't already mentioned in the docs?
[07:13] <phiqtion> how can in completely remove kubuntu-desktop? it's nearly 450mb!!!!!
[07:13] <Jaymottz22> I am still getting an checksum error after changing my cd drive. If my md5 is good (as compared to ftp.ucsb) then what eles could be going on?
[07:13] <n2diy> zeembo: can you still flash your Caps Lock led with the keyboard?
[07:13] <matthew1429> im using kubuntu and am getting the artsmessage error
[07:13] <matthew1429> sound server fatal error
[07:13] <zeembo> n2diy: yep
[07:13] <litheum> Jaymottz22: md5 of what is the same?
[07:13] <matthew1429> cpu overload
[07:13] <riotkittie> zeembo: patience, my friend. patience. it may have stopped working BUT when i tried 6.10s live disc, it took about 20 minutes to got to the desktop
[07:13] <riotkittie> it was brutal
[07:14] <n2diy> zeembo: ok, then you aren't hung, let her cook.
[07:14] <matthew1429> can anyone point me to something that will tell me how to disable the sound server?
[07:14] <Jaymottz22> litheum: the ISO
[07:14] <unperson> Do I need to use the Alternate Install CD in order to have the option of setting up a software RAID on install?
[07:14] <zeembo> n2diy: my ethernet seems to be doing something because the router is flashing
[07:14] <matthew1429> I've googled
[07:14] <litheum> Jaymottz22: but you burned it to a CD and it doesn't work?
[07:14] <matthew1429> and nothing helps me out here
[07:14] <riotkittie> frogzoo: i found it in the documentation, actually <hangs head in shame>
[07:14] <zeembo> n2diy: but i don't really hear anything happening
[07:15] <n2diy> zeembo: disconnect the router, you don't need that for the install, and you can set it up later.
[07:15] <Jaymottz22> litheum: right. I checked cd image also and it's good
[07:15] <frogzoo> riotkittie: kk
[07:15] <matthew1429> sigh
[07:15] <wolfwalker> Okay, I keep getting the same thing when trying to boot off the live cd
[07:15] <wolfwalker> Says it failed to mount
[07:15] <litheum> Jaymottz22: did you try burning it again just to be sure?
[07:15] <antonio_> hello
[07:16] <riotkittie> in hindsight. i dont know why i bothered because its not like i really use X much. but :P
[07:16] <Jaymottz22> litheum: nope. I'll do then.
[07:16] <cafuego_> matthew1429: Either kill it or uninstall it.
[07:16] <wolfwalker> Well, what happens is this: I run it, I tell it to start ubuntu, it says something about uncompressing the Linux kernel........... then it reads the cd for about a minute and a half.
[07:16] <zeembo> n2diy: ok, i'm restarting the install now
[07:16] <antonio_> hello
[07:16] <wolfwalker> Then it says establishing swap, then it says it tried to mount and failed
[07:16] <antonio_> im new on linux
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> antonio_: welcome
[07:16] <n2diy> zeembo: roger.
[07:16] <wolfwalker> Then it shuts down and I have to unplug the computer just to get the flipping cd out
[07:17] <antonio_> tnx
[07:17] <craigbass1976> Hey does anyone know why my script won't read both lines in a text file?  file and script (both are wicked short) can be found at http://rafb.net/p/D14sUZ79.html
[07:17] <antonio_> how i instal java?
[07:17] <Hatty> .ccd files are lame
[07:17] <riotkittie> i guess i am not the only one who doesnt read docs :P because everyone made it sound like Xinerama was my only option :P
[07:17] <frogzoo> !java | antonio_
[07:17] <ubotu> antonio_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:17] <chivosolar> damn i left the locatoin blank and this printer setup choked
[07:17] <matthew1429> can anyone see me asking for information how to turn off the arts soundserver so I stop getting the msg sound server fatal error cpu overload?
[07:18] <cafuego_> matthew1429: Either kill it or uninstall it.
[07:18] <toulouse> tom47: after reading all that junk just to get that to work, i think i'll just reboot and look at the bios, it's much easier :)
[07:18] <cafuego_> matthew1429: 'artsd' is what you want to be rid of.
[07:18] <tom47> toulouse yes its meant to be a lasting solution not a casual anquiry
[07:18] <matthew1429> is that in system services?
[07:18] <matthew1429> how do I get rid of it?
[07:18] <matthew1429> sorry this is my first day
[07:19] <matthew1429> and I have been reading
[07:19] <riotkittie> matthew1429: i can see you. but i dont have an answer.
[07:19] <cafuego_> matthew1429: No, it gets started at X login. Just uninstall the artsd package if you need to get rid of it.
[07:19] <matthew1429> thanks for acknowledging riot :D
[07:19] <litheum> matthew1429: look around in Synaptic to see if you can find it?
[07:19] <n2diy> ! arts
[07:19] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[07:19] <matthew1429> synaptic
[07:19] <matthew1429> is synaptic in the kmenu?
[07:20] <riotkittie> try ...   ps ax | grep arts       in a term, matthew1429   ... and then killing by PID
[07:20] <riotkittie> if it shows
[07:20] <verve> hey guys.. couple questions.. i installed Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, but then i added the Kubuntu packages.. if i wanted to remove Gnome, is that possible? also, is there a Qt Firefox?
[07:20] <matthew1429> okay
[07:20] <verve> 'cause Konqueror sucks
[07:20] <verve> heh
[07:20] <unperson> Ok, it looks like the answer is yes, I DO need the alternate install CD in order to setup a RAID on install
[07:20] <zeembo> n2diy: i'm still getting the same black screen.  after doing a lot of reading, the cd status just stays lit and i don't hear anything going
[07:20] <cafuego_> verve: Yes you can remove gnome, but there is no Qt Firefox.
[07:21] <riotkittie> verve: you can install firefox from the repos if its removed with GNOME
[07:21] <zeembo> n2diy: no status lights on my comp blinking either
[07:21] <n2diy> zeembo: but you still have control of your Caps led?
 'cause Konqueror sucks
[07:21] <wolfwalker> Yea, verily
[07:21] <wolfwalker> lol
[07:21] <riotkittie> zeembo: what are your system specs? and how long have you been waiting ?
[07:22] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[07:22] <zeembo> n2diy: yeah the caps
[07:22] <zeembo> works fine
[07:22] <riotkittie> oh man, i /hate/ konqueror
[07:22] <verve> i mean, as a file manager, like Nautilus, it's fine
[07:22] <verve> but they should not have allowed it to browse the web
[07:22] <verve> it's retarded
[07:22] <wolfwalker> Nope
[07:22] <wolfwalker> And yep
[07:22] <wolfwalker> lol
[07:22] <n2diy> zeembo: ok, your still cooking, answer riotkittie's question.
[07:22] <unperson> Here's another question, though:  I'm trying to get my mobo's onboard NIC to work in Ubuntu.  The mobo has an nforce 410 chipset and a Realtek 8201CL LAN chip.  With knoppix it works, using the forcedeth module, but this does not work with the Edgy live CD.
[07:22] <verve> it sucks though, there's some stuff from Gnome i like, and some from KDE
[07:23] <verve> boo :`(
[07:23] <riotkittie> i dont really like it as a file manager either.  i suppose it just takes some getting used to, and perhaps some tweaking... but KDE's never really been my thing in general
[07:23] <wolfwalker> verve, that's what adept is for
[07:23] <riotkittie> verve: you can use many apps interchangably
[07:23] <SilentDis> verve, different tools for different uses for different people, imo.  it's fine that konqueror browses, just another 'feature' of it.  I, myself, do prefer firefox, and the gnome environment... lol
[07:23] <verve> it's not apps-wise though
[07:23] <verve> it's the actual environments
[07:23] <wolfwalker> |verve:| sudo apt-get install (program)
[07:23] <wolfwalker> Oh, that
[07:23] <phiqtion> sudo apt-get remove --purge gamin* ----- what does that command do?
[07:23] <zeembo> riotkittie:  i have a pIII 800 megahertz w/ 1 gig ram
[07:24] <matthew1429> hey riot, I pm'd you
[07:24] <SilentDis> phiqtion, it will remove and delete all the packages on your system that start with "gamin*"
[07:24] <zeembo> riotkittie:  i let it stay black for about 10 min after clicking install
[07:24] <n2diy> zeembo: no problems there, how much free HD space?
[07:24] <unperson> I think the issue may be that the version of forcedeth on the edgy CD is too old, so I want to compile a new one from the source on nvidia's website.  I can get forcedeth.c from them, but how do I compile it properly to work with the edgy CD?
[07:24] <riotkittie> matthew1429: ah i saw and i replied but it was blocked because your nick isnt regged or i'm not identified. but yeah try again with art
[07:24] <verve> what's the status of E17 and usability?
[07:25] <verve> or is that useability? whatever
[07:25] <verve> :P
[07:25] <phiqtion> what's gamin?
[07:25] <zeembo> n2diy:  250 gigs and 10 gigs
[07:25] <n2diy> zeembo: no problem there either.
[07:25] <zeembo> n2diy: i just ran a cd check and it is saying buffer i/o error on hdb
[07:25] <zeembo> and then logical block: xxxxxxx
[07:26] <zeembo> is that a bad cd burn?
[07:26] <SilentDis> !info gamin | phiqtion
[07:26] <ubotu> gamin: File and directory monitoring system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.7-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 60 kB, installed size 184 kB
[07:26] <riotkittie> zeembo: it took forever gor me too. it was about 20 mins before i made it to the desktop with the 6.10 live disc, and ... it got worse from there. i had issues with Gnome Display or something, and then when i tried the actual install, ugh. I gave up, it was brutal.
[07:26] <n2diy> zeembo: are you trying to set up a dual boot box with winders?
[07:27] <riotkittie> zeembo: if i were you, i'd consider giving the 6.06 live disc a shot instead. for me, it worked much better
[07:27] <zeembo> no just ubuntu
[07:27] <riotkittie> << 750mhz
[07:27] <zeembo> riotkittie: alright, i'll try 6.06
[07:27] <zeembo> is the logical error on hdb something?
[07:27] <zeembo> what does that mean?
[07:28] <zeembo> i mean i/o error on hdb, logical block xxxxxx
[07:28] <n2diy> riotkittie: what was he trying to install, Edgy?
[07:28] <riotkittie> eh. that might be a bad burn. try again at a lower speed.  4x perhaps.
[07:28] <zeembo> yeah n2diy edgy
[07:29] <riotkittie> wee. having a cloned screen is soooo exciting :P
[07:29] <riotkittie> although i wish it worked outside of x. or that i had 2 vid cards. hmm.
[07:29] <twb> Remind me, what's the release date for Feisty?
[07:29] <n2diy> riotkittie: riotkittie, ok, I'm going to start a list of reasons not to "upgrade" to Edgy. Dapper works fine for me, and I'm staying here.
[07:29] <riotkittie> twb: april
[07:29] <twb> Thank you.
[07:29] <n2diy> whoops
[07:30] <toulouse> tom47: i looked in bios :) much faster
[07:30] <verdRousseau_> I am trying to edit my /etc/profile to add a environmental variabe, does anyone know where I would edit specifically in the file?
[07:30] <toulouse> my cpu be 111*f
[07:30] <n2diy> zeembo: : riotkittie, ok, I'm going to start a list of reasons not to "upgrade" to Edgy. Dapper works fine for me, and I'm staying here.
[07:30] <matthew1429> anyone know how to kill art server?
[07:30] <tom47> toulouse well done
[07:30] <matthew1429> im in the terminal
[07:30] <arrenlex> verdRousseau_: Just add it to /etc/environment in the form FOO=bar
[07:30] <ardchoille42> Can I just take a source tarball and run one command to build it into an Ubuntu .deb? I saw some tutorials about package building and they seemed to requiring a ton of packages and a long list of commands. Is all that necessary to build a proper Ubuntu .deb package?
[07:31] <verdRousseau_> alright thanks, but on the tutorial it said to add it to the .profile
[07:31] <arrenlex> !checkinstall | ardchoille42
[07:31] <ubotu> ardchoille42: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[07:31] <ardchoille42> alien/checkinstall != proper Ubuntu .deb
[07:31] <crimsun> archangelpetro: pretty much.
[07:31] <crimsun> archangelpetro: sorry
[07:31] <crimsun> ardchoille42: pretty much.
[07:31] <arrenlex> ardchoille42: Oh. Then you will need a source package with a debian/ folder which is properly set up by the maintainers.
[07:32] <enix> hello all......i currently have an image that is 100x77, i was wondering if there is an app or a way that i can scale it up for use as a wallpaper and at the same time keep the resolution
[07:32] <lilly> yl
[07:33] <arrenlex> enix: There is no way in hell you can ever take a 100x77 image and use any application that did not originate in Hackers to make it into wallpaper size. Forget it.
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> enix: Maybe.  Gimp can scale, but you can't magically create new data to make it that big and look decent.
[07:33] <ardchoille42> enix, No way to do that without it being ultra blurry
[07:33] <litheum> dude they could totally do that in CSI
[07:33] <enix> thought so, but new to linux and thouht maybe somehow...someway
[07:33] <litheum> enix: has nothing to do with "linux", man..
[07:34] <ardchoille42> litheum, hahahaha
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> enix: You could however contact the image author and see if they have a larger original.
[07:34] <enix> so T.V. is fake?  *cries*
[07:34] <litheum> and in CSI they should find some image REFLECTED in someones EYE and blow that up to a billboard-sized high-res print
[07:34] <enix> *^ sarcasam*
[07:34] <litheum> it would be awesome
[07:34] <Jedrick> is there any other program like gaim that can connect to yahoo chat?
[07:34] <arrenlex> enix: You could TRY using inkscape and turning it into an svg, and resizing that svg. But it will be picassoy.
[07:34] <arrenlex> picasso-y
[07:34] <litheum> picassoesque, perhaps
[07:35] <arrenlex> litheum: Sounds good
[07:35] <enix> yea....i saw that episode where they got the image from the eye
[07:35] <litheum> they do that every few weeks i think
[07:35] <ardchoille42> Jedrick, gaim can do yahoo accounts
[07:35] <n2diy> arrenlex: piccaso
[07:35] <litheum> n2diy: nope, "picasso" is not an adjective..
[07:35] <arrenlex> n2diy: Picasso actually :)
[07:35] <arrenlex> n2diy: Do not argue with gtkspell.
[07:35] <arrenlex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasso
[07:36] <SurfnKid> hi
[07:36] <Jedrick> ardchoille42:  yeah but there's something wrong with my gaim.. i can't open it even if i remove it and install again. is there any program?
[07:36] <n2diy> :/
[07:36] <litheum> Jedrick: i think there's a java yahoo chat client you can run in your browser :)
[07:36] <SurfnKid> trying to figure out where the zoom options are for the mouse wheel in beryl?
[07:36] <litheum> or there used to be at any rate
[07:36] <SurfnKid> anyone know
[07:36] <ardchoille42> Jedrick, I'm not a good person to ask as I don't use IM much.
[07:36] <Jedrick> litheum: where?
[07:37] <litheum> Jedrick: well it used to be at chat.yahoo.com or whatever, was something theyp rovided
[07:37] <enix> howcome when i put conky conky -dba bottom_right into startup progams it shows for about a sec while session loads then nothin
[07:37] <theearp> have you tried launching gaim from the terminal
[07:37] <theearp> see if there are any error messages
[07:37] <Jedrick> litheum: ok thanks i'll go find it
[07:37] <psykidellic> hello...i have a 3com vortex card which requires 3c59x module and ubuntu is not getting recognised
[07:37] <TooR4u> how to download this url svn://svn.audioscrobbler.net/client
[07:37] <TooR4u> what is svn?
[07:37] <richee> hi folks, I am trying to configure my nokia 7610 to ubuntu edgy, I use gnome phone manager but the device is detected and when I enter 1234 the device doesn't get paired
[07:37] <psykidellic> i downled the latest version of ubuntu running 2,6.17 kernel yesterday
[07:37] <psykidellic> any idea how can i get it running?
[07:38] <richee> I also read the posting on ubuntuforums I guess it's old
[07:38] <litheum> TooR4u: check wikipedia, google, etc..
[07:38] <arrenlex> !svn | TooR4u
[07:38] <ubotu> TooR4u: svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[07:38] <richee> can anyone help plzzzz
[07:38] <richee> ?
[07:38] <litheum> psykidellic: follow the instructions? :)
[07:38] <richee> !bluetooth
[07:38] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:38] <n2diy> psykidellic: sudo modprobe 3c59x?
[07:38] <psykidellic> nothing
[07:39] <psykidellic> but lsmod | grep 3c59
[07:39] <psykidellic> returns 2 entries
[07:39] <n2diy> psykidellic: can you nail down the last digit of the card number, and try that with modprobe?
[07:39] <psykidellic> lithsum: where are the instructions?
[07:39] <Flannel> !install | psykidellic
[07:39] <ubotu> psykidellic: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:39] <Jaymottz22> no dice on burning a new iso. The ubuntu-server-6.10-i386.iso must be currupt.
[07:40] <psykidellic> i hv installed ubuntu
[07:40] <enix> howcome when i put conky -dba bottom_right into startup progams it shows for about a sec while session loads then nothin
[07:40] <litheum> Jaymottz22: or your CD drive is fubar
[07:40] <psykidellic> i now need to get my netrwork card running
[07:40] <valehru> hey guys, is there a repo where I can get skype?  Currently behind the great firewall in china and skype's website keeps timing out.  Any help would be appreciated.
[07:40] <Jaymottz22> litheum: I tried that too
[07:40] <riotkittie> brb.
[07:40] <litheum> Jaymottz22: what's it doing when you try to install, something about a checksum?
[07:40] <psykidellic> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/01/how-to-install-network-card-in-linux.html - i am reading this.....
[07:41] <psykidellic> they say to add in modules,conf
[07:41] <astrobilly> Sivik-bed: Thank  you for helping me :)
[07:41] <n2diy> psykidellic: can you nail down the last digit of the card number, and try that with modprobe?
[07:41] <psykidellic> by my ubuntu dosnt have modules.conf  but /etc/nodules is there
[07:41] <arrenlex> valehru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-5c18cc60f56f7f5f651ee9abeca60f0ab62545f7
[07:41] <psykidellic> i am doibg that
[07:41] <psykidellic> hold on n2diy
[07:42] <n2diy> psykidellic: does lshw tell you what it is?
[07:42] <Jaymottz22> litheum: yeah, says parport-modules-2.6.17-10-386-di_2.6.17-10.33_i386.udeb failed the MD5 checksum verification.
[07:43] <litheum> Jaymottz22: strange
[07:43] <litheum> Jaymottz22: any way to just skip that to see if it's just that one package?
[07:43] <valehru> arrenlex, it's really slow to reach that site....it keeps timing out on me..still not loading up for me.
[07:44] <arrenlex> valehru: http://arrenlex.ls.la/skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb
[07:44] <psykidellic> nothing about eth0
[07:44] <Jaymottz22> litheum: not sure let me see...
[07:45] <psykidellic> modprobe last character dosnt show anything either
[07:45] <valehru> arrenlex, thanks.....using wget, still really slow....
[07:45] <n2diy> psykidellic: who are you talking to?
[07:45] <valehru> --14:44:56--  http://arrenlex.ls.la/skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb
[07:45] <valehru>            => `skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb.3'
[07:45] <valehru> Resolving arrenlex.ls.la... 67.19.238.252, 67.19.238.253
[07:45] <valehru> Connecting to arrenlex.ls.la|67.19.238.252|:80...
[07:46] <psykidellic> sorry....
[07:46] <psykidellic> n2diy: sorry
[07:46] <psykidellic> n2diy: forgot the name...to you...as you asked me to do that!
[07:46] <n2diy> psykidellic: ok, does lshw tell you what your nic card is?
[07:47] <arrenlex> valehru: how about http://68.148.168.84:8001/skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb instead?
[07:47] <Jedrick> dangit i can't find the java yahoo chat
[07:48] <Jedrick> is there any program other than game that can connect to yahoo  chat on linux
[07:48] <valehru> arrenlex, it's getting it...thanks...still pretty slow though.
[07:48] <litheum> Jedrick: did you go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/
[07:48] <litheum> Jedrick: hm are you talking about the text-based yahoo messenger thing or the "yahoo chat" audio deal?
[07:48] <vrt> Jedrick: freeho
[07:48] <vrt> !info freehoo
[07:48] <cappiz_> vrt, correct syntax is !addinfo <release> <files> <size_in_mb>, fix your script
[07:48] <ubotu> Package freehoo does not exist in any distro I know
[07:48] <humblerodent> which log would I look in to find the cause of a total hard crash (i.e. NOTHING works)?  /var/log/syslog ?
[07:49] <litheum> humblerodent: how will you read the log file if none of the hardware is functional?
[07:49] <Jedrick> litheum:  the yahoo messenger
[07:49] <litheum> Jedrick: did you go to messenger.yahoo.com???
[07:49] <humblerodent> litheum: something could have happened just before the crash that might indicate the cause
[07:49] <vrt> http://www.nongnu.org/freehoo/
[07:49] <humblerodent> correction....I don't mean it crashed to the point of not working.  I mean nothing worked THEN, i.e., not Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, nothing.
[07:49] <litheum> humblerodent: i didn't ask *why*, i asked *how*. if NOTHING works, how do you plan to read the log file?
[07:49] <Jedrick> litheum: im on it right now :)
[07:50] <litheum> Jedrick: do you not see the installation instructions with links to various packages you could try?
[07:50] <humblerodent> litheum: ^
[07:50] <n2diy> humblerodent: check message, and kernel too.
[07:51] <Jedrick> litheum:  yeah i see it now.. it thought that was not the one...
[07:51] <dtvarnum> Hi all...
[07:51] <asdx> why the cdrecord build in ubuntu doesn't support dvd writting?
[07:51] <n2diy> psykidellic: ok, does lshw tell you what your nic card is?
[07:51] <humblerodent> n2diy: hm, okay, not seeing it.
[07:52] <humblerodent> well, it seems to only do it if I am trying to add software packages
[07:52] <humblerodent> which seems odd
[07:52] <humblerodent> let me tell the whole story:
[07:52] <asdx> why the cdrecord build in ubuntu doesn't support dvd writting? with other cdrecord builds i can just write dvd fine
[07:52] <n2diy> psykidellic: and how many interfaces does ifconfig list?
[07:53] <raveneye> ifconfig usually lists all configured network interfaces
[07:53] <n2diy> raveneye: usually?
[07:54] <psykidellic> n2diy: one, loopback!
[07:54] <humblerodent> Last night I installed a new wifi card.  It took me a damn long time to get it to work, since it was causing a hardware conflict with some onboard crap on my motherboard that I had to forcibly disable by switching a jumper.  Anyway, I got the network card to work.  But I had some other problems in my Ubuntu (not caused by the network card) that I decided would be most conveniently fixed by just a complete, fresh install.  Anyway, ever since
[07:54] <humblerodent> Did all of that go through? ^
[07:54] <arrenlex> humblerodent: .  Anyway, ever since EOF
[07:54] <n2diy> psykidellic: ok, your nic isn't working, what happens when you type sudo ifup eth0?
[07:55] <humblerodent> Anyway, ever since I did the fresh install, the system seems to really enjoy crashing completely (as in, system responds to NO signals from the mouse or keyboard AT ALL), and it seems only to do it when I am trying to install/configure software packages.  Anyone have any ideas?
[07:55] <Daverocks> humblerodent: so like, caps lock light won't turn on and stuff?
[07:55] <psykidellic> ignoring unknown interface eth0
[07:55] <n2diy> psykidellic: who are you talking to?
[07:55] <psykidellic> my /etc/modules file only shows one entry lp
[07:56] <humblerodent> Daverocks: I didn't really think to check that.  I will if it happens again.  I found it odd that even Ctrl+Alt+F1 and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace didn't work, because I can usually rely on one of those working if nothing else does.
[07:56] <psykidellic> n2diy: god damm it...sorry
[07:56] <squeakypants> hey hey hey everyone
[07:56] <n2diy> psykidellic: :)
[07:56] <arrenlex> !hi | squeakypants
[07:56] <ubotu> squeakypants: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:56] <psykidellic> n2diy: everytime forgetting to put your name!
[07:56] <humblerodent> Davewhat I meant by "nothing responds at all" is that Ubuntu / Linux does nothing in response to any input
[07:56] <psykidellic> n2diy: to you only
[07:56] <humblerodent> Daverocks*
[07:56] <n2diy> psykidellic: ok, are you running X?
[07:56] <squeakypants> i haven't used my linux in a few weeks, and for some reason it loads in 800x600
[07:56] <psykidellic> nope
[07:56] <squeakypants> and i can't get it to change
[07:56] <psykidellic> a plain vanilla CLI installation
[07:57] <Jedrick> litheum: where can i get this file libssl0.9.6, it is need to install ymessenger  but it says that it's not installable
[07:57] <arrenlex> !fixres | squeakypants
[07:57] <ubotu> squeakypants: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:57] <squeakypants> "change screen resolution" doesn't work, and editting xorg.conf doesn't either
[07:57] <psykidellic> n2diy: for some reason my Dell LCD is not taking the analog input from my video card
[07:57] <n2diy> psykidellic: hmm? thinking.
[07:57] <raveneye> squeakypants try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:57] <psykidellic> so i am running CLI installation as of now....
[07:57] <pianoboy3333> When programs are installed, they normally get installed to /usr/lib, and then are symlinked to /usr/bin rite? or /usr/local if specified... w/e
[07:57] <squeakypants> raveneye: with that restart x?
[07:57] <arrenlex> Jedrick: apt-get install libssl0.9.8 ;)
[07:57] <arrenlex> Jedrick: Wait, can't read.
[07:57] <Daverocks> humblerodent: yes i realise, i had a problem with my mandriva install a while ago where the kernel totally locked up, no responses to any input. caps lock light and other stuff didn't turn on because it was a full lockup
[07:57] <nighthawk02> !gnome-power-manager | nighthawk02
[07:57] <ubotu> gnome-power-manager: frontend for gnome-powermanager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1843 kB, installed size 7364 kB
[07:58] <arrenlex> Jedrick: apt-get install libssl0.9.6 ;)
[07:58] <n2diy> psykidellic: is this a wireless card we are playing with?
[07:58] <Jedrick> arrenlex:  it won't, can't find package
[07:58] <raveneye> you can run it and after its done run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:58] <humblerodent> Daverocks: odd
[07:58] <arrenlex> Jedrick: Discontinued since breezy. Download it, I guess: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libssl0.9.6&searchon=name&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[07:58] <squeakypants> should i use nv or nvidia?
[07:58] <Oni-Dracula> would it be appropriate to delete the entire apt cache folder?  that is, does apt-get require any of those debs after they're installed?
[07:58] <psykidellic> nope
[07:58] <Daverocks> humblerodent: but ubuntu is different to mandriva ;)
[07:58] <psykidellic> ethernet
[07:58] <n2diy> psykidellic: who are you talking to?
[07:59] <n2diy> psykidellic: :)
[07:59] <pianoboy3333> When programs are installed, they normally get installed to /usr/lib, and then are symlinked to /usr/bin rite? or /usr/local if specified... w/e
[07:59] <Jedrick> arrenlex:  ok i'll try
[07:59] <arrenlex> n2diy: In case you didn't know, ubotu has a !who factoid :)
[07:59] <n2diy> ! who
[07:59] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[07:59] <Jedrick> arrenlex:  but im on edgy. is this ok if i install this file?
[08:00] <arrenlex> Jedrick: Yes.
[08:00] <Jedrick> arrenlex: ok
[08:00] <n2diy> arrenlex: I take up less bandwidth. :)
[08:00] <raveneye> squeakypants since you have the nvidia drivers show up my guess is that you have installed all the packages to make 3d run so go for nvidia if it does not work choose nv
[08:01] <arrenlex> raveneye: This is a comma,<----
[08:01] <arrenlex> raveneye: They make your writing readable. Pleeeease use them. 0_0
[08:01] <Jedrick> what is amd64?
[08:01] <Jaymottz22> litheum: expert mode does'nt permit package skipping! So maybe I'll try 6.06
[08:01] <arrenlex> Jedrick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64
[08:02] <Oni-Dracula> asking again since i dont think anyone saw my question in the myriad of other discussion:  would it be appropriate to delete the entire apt cache folder?  that is, does apt-get require any of those debs after they're installed?
[08:02] <n2diy> psykidellic: ?
[08:02] <Judicata> Anyone know how to track changes in OO.o?
[08:02] <arrenlex> Oni-Dracula: Don't do it manually. That's what apt-get clean is for.
[08:02] <Jedrick> my processor is amd but i don't know if it's 64. which category should i download. in amd64 or i386?
[08:02] <TGPO> Oni-Dracula, apt-get clean
[08:02] <arrenlex> Jedrick: If you don't know, then you're not running it. i386
[08:02] <psykidellic> n2diy: its an ethernet card
[08:02] <TGPO> Jedrick, i386
[08:02] <psykidellic> n2diy: not wireless
[08:02] <Jedrick> ok
[08:03] <Oni-Dracula> arrenlex, TGPO, I used that...I was just noticing that the debs in apt's cache folder were using an excessive amount of disk space
[08:03] <Oni-Dracula> I suppose I should just leave them alone then :)
[08:03] <n2diy> psykidellic: ok, can you pastebin the output of lshw?
[08:03] <arrenlex> Oni-Dracula: apt-get clean removes all those debs
[08:03] <psykidellic> pastebin?
[08:03] <psykidellic> n2diy: pastebin??
[08:03] <raveneye> arrenlex; Well, eh, what can I say? I guess you're right. but then i would take away all your fun in commenting on ppl not using interpunciton away
[08:04] <psykidellic> n2diy: sorry for the ignorance but i use mac and have no idea on the command line of linux :_
[08:04] <psykidellic> linux
[08:04] <n2diy> pastebin ! psykidellic, it is simple copy and paste.
[08:04] <n2diy> pastebin ! psykidellic
[08:04] <squeakypants> raveneye: how do I use checkboxes in the terminal?
[08:04] <donna> first time here)hoping someone can help me out
[08:04] <arrenlex> !ask | donna
[08:04] <ubotu> donna: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:04] <aalhamad> anybody can help me getting accelarated C++ practical programminb on pdf??
[08:04] <squeakypants> what button do I use to check something
[08:04] <n2diy> " pastebin ! psykidellic
[08:04] <psykidellic> n2diy: well i cant do cut-n-paste...i am chatting from my laptop and installibg on a another desktop!
[08:05] <raveneye> squeakypants just move with arrowkeys if that does not give jump with tab
[08:05] <n2diy> ! pastebin ! psykidellic
[08:05] <Oni-Dracula> arrenlex, apt-get clean did not remove anything but automatix shtuff
[08:05] <donna> when i download games what do i use to open them with?
[08:05] <raveneye> squeakypants and dont forget spacebar selects
[08:05] <arrenlex> Oni-Dracula: What folder are you looking at?
[08:05] <squeakypants> raveneye: aha, spacebar :-P
[08:05] <Oni-Dracula> arrenlex, nevermind...it did it this time around :)
[08:05] <n2diy> ! pastebin | psykidellic
[08:05] <ubotu> psykidellic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <psykidellic> n2diy: it guves me info about various devices
[08:05] <arrenlex> Oni-Dracula: o_O huh?
[08:06] <arrenlex> Oni-Dracula: Why would it not do it once but then do it again?
[08:06] <psykidellic> core, memory, cpu, cache, ide etc
[08:06] <n2diy> psykidellic: but nothing about a 3cxxx card?
[08:06] <seventypercent> donna: which games?
[08:06] <Oni-Dracula> arrenlex, uh maybe because there was an ID-10-T error? and I was using autoclean and not clean :)
[08:06] <donna> saints and sinners bingo(thanks seventy)
[08:06] <arrenlex> Oni-Dracula: Oh. xD
[08:07] <seventypercent> donna: was it a package that you installed through synaptic?
[08:07] <donna> sorry i am really new,I don;t know what synaptic is
[08:07] <arrenlex> What's -d do?
[08:07] <arrenlex> !synaptic | donna
[08:07] <ubotu> donna: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:07] <arrenlex> donna: (installs programs)
[08:07] <seventypercent> donna: that's okay .. how did you install the game?
[08:07] <pikachu01> hey all
[08:08] <donna> i went to the sight its a big fish game
[08:08] <blind> I can't get my Logitech USB Desktop Mic to work in gnome-sound-recorder or anything else. The chipset is AK5370.. any help?
[08:08] <raveneye> yo!
[08:08] <arrenlex> !hi | pikachu01
[08:08] <ubotu> pikachu01: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:08] <donna> evening pik
[08:08] <pikachu01> anybody here is a VMware expert?
[08:08] <n2diy> psykidellic: but nothing about a 3cxxx card?
[08:08] <pikachu01> hehe it's afternoon here :P
[08:08] <TGPO> pikachu01, might try #vmware
[08:08] <pikachu01> ahh ok
[08:08] <seventypercent> donna: one second
[08:09] <psykidellic> nope
[08:09] <donna> when i download the game it asks me what I want to open it with(I have no idea)thanks again seventy
[08:09] <pikachu01> but since i'm here .. i'm having probs with Ubuntu trying to show two physical processors
[08:09] <pikachu01> in VMware ... it only shows one
[08:09] <n2diy> psykidellic: is this a laptop computer?
[08:09] <pikachu01> yeap
[08:09] <pianoboy3333> When programs are installed, they normally get installed to /usr/lib, and then are symlinked to /usr/bin rite? or /usr/local if specified... w/e
[08:10] <seventypercent> donna: I am really not familiar with that particular game, but I just looked at the Web page you referred to and it says that the game is Windows-only
[08:10] <n2diy> psykidellic: is this a laptop computer?
[08:10] <psykidellic> n2diy: nope
[08:10] <arrenlex> pianoboy3333: No. Packages install excutables to /usr/bin, libraries to /usr/lib
[08:10] <psykidellic> n2diy: desktop with 2 1ghz and 512 mb ram
[08:10] <donna> i can play the other version though(the online one)??
[08:10] <psykidellic> n2diy: i am talking to you from my laptop
[08:10] <pianoboy3333> arrenlex: I find that hard to believe
[08:11] <pianoboy3333> arrenlex: I don't think they "install" executables to /usr/bin... I think they link them there from /usr/lib
[08:11] <arrenlex> pianoboy3333: No, no, this isn't #80sdetectivemovie, this is #ubuntu
[08:11] <n2diy> psykidellic: I'm out of ideas, do you have another nic card you could replace this one with?
[08:11] <TGPO> piano do ls -l /usr/lib and /usr/bin and find the simlinks, its not hard
[08:12] <seventypercent> donna: I'm just guessing here, but it's probably got a Web-based version (which you should be able to play) and a version that you download and play on your machine, which seems to be Windows-specific
[08:12] <n2diy> psykidellic: can you ping 127.0.0.1?
[08:12] <donna> aww ok..thanks for the help seventy
[08:12] <frogzoo> pianoboy3333: which date
[08:12] <seventypercent> no problem donna, have fun!
[08:12] <donna> have a good one folks...:)
[08:12] <psykidellic> one sec
[08:12] <pianoboy3333> ?
[08:13] <arrenlex> pianoboy3333: Some packages do have a /usr/bin file which is a simple wrapper around a /usr/lib file. But that's only when they need to set it up that way. For the most part, /usr/bin houses executables.
[08:13] <psykidellic> yeah
[08:13] <pianoboy3333> ok
[08:13] <psykidellic> n2diy: 100% sucess
[08:13] <donna> is there a way to talk to someone one on one here?
[08:13] <n2diy> psykidellic: who are you talking toL  so you can you ping 127.0.0.1?
[08:13] <psykidellic> n2diy: yes
[08:14] <pikachu01> well .. it seems that people aren't answering my question :(
[08:14] <n2diy> psykidellic: ok, wait.
[08:14] <blind> !patience | pikachu01
[08:14] <ubotu> pikachu01: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:14] <pikachu01> ubotu: Got it
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Got it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <n2diy> Help, how can psykidellic config is nic card from a terminal?
[08:14] <donna> thanks again folks
[08:14] <TGPO> pikachu01, #vmware is where you want to ask vmware questions
[08:14] <psykidellic> n2diy: ?????
[08:15] <blind> ifconfig for nic from terminal
[08:15] <raveneye> ppp
[08:15] <pikachu01> yes, but nobody is on there .. but oh well
[08:15] <psykidellic> n2diy: i dint get your question
[08:15] <n2diy> psykidellic: we are asking the group now.
[08:15] <psykidellic> n2diy: sorry, i am new to IRC ... been using IMs before....so learning the rules :)
[08:15] <blind> n2diy: psykidellic: ifconfig
[08:16] <psykidellic> blind: ifconfig is just returning my loopback adapter
[08:16] <blind> psykidellic: then your card isn't properly installed.
[08:16] <blind> look for it in lspci
[08:16] <Jedrick> i open a gaim program but i can't see it on my dekstop. why is that? but i know it's running coz i can see it when i do "ps ax" . help pls.
[08:17] <n2diy> blind, we don't know what card it is, and lshw doesn't tell us either, does he have to pull the card and figure out the chipset?
[08:17] <blind> Jedrick: is the icon in your system tray?
[08:17] <psykidellic> blind: i know....so how can i do that...buying a new supported card is not possible....i am using a proffs. old server machine...so i have only those hardware which came installed in it!
[08:17] <raveneye> psykidellic try to find if the systems shows your card with lspci -vv
[08:17] <Beast> Jedrick: You sure it's not just in the system tray?
[08:17] <Jedrick> blind:  no it's not there
[08:17] <blind> Jedrick: try killing it and running it again?
[08:17] <TGPO> n2diy, lspci?
[08:17] <Jedrick> blind:  i do it all the time but still i can't see it
[08:17] <raveneye> aye it does a ls on the pci part of your macine
[08:18] <raveneye> machine even
[08:18] <n2diy> psykidellic: does lspci tell you what the nic card is?
[08:18] <psykidellic> blind: nothing is returned
[08:18] <TGPO> n2diy, yes
[08:18] <psykidellic> n2diy: just no output when i do lspci or lspci -vv
[08:18] <raveneye> aye it should produce output like
[08:18] <raveneye> 00:0d.0 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]  (rev 74) and so on
[08:19] <Jedrick> help pls. this problem started when i upgrade to edgy earlier this  morning.
[08:19] <psykidellic> blind: and i was trying to follow http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/01/how-to-install-network-card-in-linux.html but nothing written on that matches with my ubuntu system
[08:19] <Beast> Jedrick, You upgraded or fresh install?
[08:20] <Jedrick> Beast: upgrade
[08:20] <blind> it doesn't seem like your system is seeing your card... do you know if the card is functional?
[08:20] <n2diy> TGPO:  psykidellic, a bios setting?
[08:20] <Beast> Jedrick, Perhaps try reinstalling Gaim over the top again
[08:20] <TGPO> n2diy, very doubtfull
[08:20] <psykidellic> blind: how do i know if its functional?
[08:20] <psykidellic> blink: from bios setting?
[08:20] <Jedrick> Beast: i did. but it's just the same
[08:20] <blind> i was just asking if you knew.
[08:20] <psykidellic> blind: if i piy a network cable from my internet router to the card
[08:20] <psykidellic> it glows off
[08:21] <blind> eh, that doesn't necessarily mean it's functional
[08:21] <raveneye> well time to finish my coffee and drag my achin ol bones to work.
[08:21] <n2diy> TGPO:  psykidellic, that is what we have been trying to figure out! :)
[08:21] <raveneye> laters
[08:22] <Beast> Jedrick, Use synaptic and do a complete removal first (just guessing here) then, reinstall
[08:22] <Jedrick> ok i'll try
[08:22] <n2diy> TGPO:  psykidellic, I'm out of ideas, and gas, it is 02:22 now.
[08:22] <psykidellic> as told in that blogpost, i have to modify modules.conf but i cant find it in /etc/
[08:22] <blind> Jedrick: what version of gaim?
[08:22] <psykidellic> so which file i have to modify?
[08:22] <Jedrick> blind: dunno maybe the latest
[08:22] <psykidellic> n2diy: i know...its 1;20 AM here
[08:22] <blind> upgrading to edgy causes problems when you have stuff that's not built into ubuntu.. like building from source etc
[08:23] <psykidellic> and i have been breaking my head on this from last day!
[08:23] <psykidellic> blind: i am not upgrading
[08:23] <scrllock> if an apt install isn't able to download a file, and I've downloaded it from a mirror, where do I need to copy it to?
[08:23] <psykidellic> its a clean installation
[08:23] <Jedrick> ey when i try to open synaptic it says that "you have 1 broken package on your system" Use the "Broken" filter to locate it
[08:23] <blind> psykidellic: im talking to Jedrick
[08:23] <n2diy> psykidellic: have you been playing with automatix?
[08:23] <psykidellic> n2diy: nope...i dont know what is that!
[08:24] <TGPO> scrllock, dpkg -i whateveritis.deb
[08:24] <n2diy> ! automatix  | psykidellic
[08:24] <ubotu> psykidellic: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:24] <Jedrick> ey when i try to open synaptic it says that "you have 1 broken package on your system" Use the "Broken" filter to locate it"  <-- how can i fix this?
[08:24] <Beast> Anyone: I had digital out working great (Edgy) then all of a sudden I lost sound in everything but MythTV. As far as I can tell no settings have changed, though it may have been after I used DVD Shrink for the first time. Any ideas?
[08:24] <n2diy> psykidellic, avoid it.
[08:25] <psykidellic> N2DIY: will keep that in mind..but i ont even have GUI on my system!
[08:25] <scrllock> TGPO: that's the same as apt-get install whateveritis.. I want to know where apt stores the sources/binaries it downloads
[08:26] <n2diy> psykidellic, roger that, and i keep forgetting your cli only.
[08:26] <pikachu01> what is automatix?
[08:26] <TGPO> scrllock, /var/cache/archives
[08:27] <someothernick> !automatix
[08:27] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:27] <scrllock> TGPO: I don't have that. I have /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:27] <TGPO> scrllock, /var/cache/apt/archives sorry
[08:27] <pikachu01> !easyubuntu
[08:27] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:27] <psykidellic> n2diy: if somebody can tell me what is the corresponding file for modules.conf in debian, i can follow the steps given at: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/01/how-to-install-network-card-in-linux.html
[08:28] <pikachu01> so the basic instalation should all come from Synaptic or Add/Remove?
[08:28] <scrllock> TGPO: I've copied the file there, still trying to download it
[08:28] <Beast> Anyone: Is there someway to see if something has locked out my sound device? As in if something is using Alsa and keeping everything else out?
[08:28] <psykidellic> coz i changed /etc/modules file and it didnt work!
[08:28] <TGPO> scrllock, what are you trying to do?
[08:28] <n2diy> psykidellic, have you looked at your dmesg file in /var/logs to see if the card was detected?
[08:28] <gabaryah> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:28] <gabaryah> oops
[08:29] <yellow> where is the codecs for running .wmv .wma files ?
[08:29] <scrllock> TGPO: trying to install flashplugin-nonfree. It isn't downloading from the macromedia server, but I found a copy somewhere else.
[08:30] <psykidellic> n2diy: nope
[08:30] <psykidellic> nothing related to eth0
[08:30] <holicow> hi uebantu :)
[08:30] <Beast> Anyone: I had digital out working great (Edgy) then all of a sudden I lost sound in everything but MythTV. As far as I can tell no settings have changed, though it may have been after I used DVD Shrink for the first time. Any ideas?
[08:30] <Beast> Anyone: Is there someway to see if something has locked out my sound device? As in if something is using Alsa and keeping everything else out?
[08:31] <n2diy> psykidellic, :/ the card could be dead, or, didn't this all start out as an IRQ issue, it might be that?
[08:32] <timpino> Anyone know if there is a way to convert an ntfs partition to ext3? this is the one thing holding me back since I can't write properly in ntfs and my external 300GB drive is ntfs...
[08:32] <hanasaki> there any open bugs on edgy about firefox and epiphany hanging?
[08:32] <timpino> should add that i only have 30 GB on my internal dire
[08:32] <timpino> drive that is
[08:33] <n2diy> ! ntfs | timpino
[08:33] <ubotu> timpino: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:33] <timpino> !fuse
[08:33] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:33] <timpino> !ntfs-3g
[08:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:34] <timpino> so there is no way to just convert it?
[08:35] <tom47> timpino f you are using the xternal drive in both windows and linux, or might want to access it in windows somewhere, tyhen a gpood choice is to convert it to fat32 imho at this stage
[08:36] <tom47> timpino but i know of no way to "convert it other than to backup yr exisyting stuff and reformat it
[08:36] <timpino> ok, thanks
[08:36] <tom47> or rather delete and create
[08:36] <timpino> might look into converting it to fat32
[08:37] <Beast> Anyone: Is there someway to see if something has locked out my sound device? As in if something is using Alsa and keeping everything else out?
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> Please help me.  I think I accidentally clicked something, and now I have this: http://www.tonyyarusso.com/Screenshot-Thunderbird.png.  Where'd everything go?
[08:38] <timpino> tonyyarusso: so it's thunderbird... what's the problem?
[08:38] <squeakypants> hey again
[08:38] <squeakypants> i can't get 1600x1024 to work
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> timpino: There aren't any folders or messages showing....
[08:38] <squeakypants> only 1280x960
[08:38] <timpino> tonyyarusso: have you checked the view menu?
[08:38] <OrTigaS> hi how can i change the size of the icon in my desktop?
[08:39] <timpino> OrTigaS: right click and choose change size or something
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> timpino: Yep.  Someone else figured it out.  :)  (wow...)
[08:40] <n2diy> how do you get to the off topic channel, /join #off-topic?
[08:40] <OrTigaS> how to change it simultaneuosly all the icon in my desktop
[08:41] <OrTigaS> to resize
[08:41] <Hansel> n2diy - that would work... #ubuntu-offtopic I think is what you want.
[08:43] <n2diy> Hansel: thanks, that works.
[08:44] <Beast> Ok guys, if I want to reinstall Alsa to try and fix my lost sound what is the cleanest way?
[08:46] <The_Lizard_King> I only just installed ubuntu about 1/2 hour ago. ima noob
[08:46] <The_Lizard_King> and I've got a problem
[08:50] <martyvis> anyone know how to fix a apt-get issue
[08:50] <OrTigaS> hi! how can i resize the icon in my desktop simultaneously?
[08:50] <khermans> martyvis, what is the issue?
[08:50] <martyvis> i'm trying to install gnome-devel and I get unmet dependencies all the way down the line
[08:51] <khermans> martyvis, shouldnt it be gnome-dev ?
[08:51] <martyvis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:51] <martyvis>   gnome-devel: Depends: gnome-core-devel (= 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:51] <martyvis> E: Broken packages
[08:51] <martyvis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:51] <martyvis>   gnome-devel: Depends: gnome-core-devel (= 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:51] <martyvis> E: Broken packages
[08:51] <martyvis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:51] <martyvis>   gnome-devel: Depends: gnome-core-devel (= 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:51] <martyvis> E: Broken packages
[08:51] <martyvis> gnome-dev doesn't exist
[08:52] <martyvis> sorry for the paste bomb (blame gaim)
[08:52] <khermans> martyvis, sudo aptitude update
[08:52] <khermans> martyvis, libgnome-dev
[08:52] <Beast> Ok guys, if I want to reinstall Alsa to try and fix my lost sound what is the cleanest way?
[08:52] <khermans> Beast, dpkg-reconfigure alsa ?
[08:52] <martyvis> OrTigaS: how do you mean?
[08:53] <fokuslee> is it possible to cause an dbus error if i accidentally deleted /usr/local/bin?
[08:53] <solotim> hi, all. I encontered a problem: wait_for_sysfs error while my xubuntu start up. what should i do?
[08:54] <Beast> khermans, Is there someway to see if something has locked out my sound device? As in if something is using Alsa and keeping everything else out?
[08:54] <khermans> Beast, dunno try -> alsamixer
[08:54] <Beast> khermans, yeah that hasn't changed
[08:54] <martyvis> khermans: thanks for that - it probably means that gnome-devel is a borked package
[08:54] <khermans> Beast, what it the error
[08:55] <khermans> martyvis, most deb-based headers come from -dev not -devel
[08:55] <Beast> khermans, I think either DVD Shrink or Mytharchive did something to my sound. I still have sound in MythTV but not in anything else (Xine, Amarok etc). I use digital out.
[08:55] <khermans> Beast, check your logs
[08:56] <Beast> khermans, which log would you start with?
[08:56] <martyvis> khermans: that's what I thought - except someone at the conference I was on suggested gnome-devel
[08:56] <martyvis> khermans: does gnome-devel also not install on your system?>
[08:56] <khermans> Beast, /var/log/messages
[08:57] <khermans> martyvis, maybe for RPM-based distros
[08:57] <khermans> martyvis, see if libgnome-dev installs for you
[08:57] <khermans> Beast, i havent tried
[08:58] <edgy> halo
[08:59] <martyvis> khermans: libgnome-dev did install - but you probably really wanted me to install libgnome2-dev
[09:00] <khermans> martyvis, its up to you what you want to install :-)
[09:00] <khermans> martyvis, are you trying to compile something?
[09:00] <martyvis> khermans: just a basic hello world program
[09:01] <khermans> martyvis, in CLI?  then you dont need gnome-dev
[09:01] <fokuslee> hey guys how do i find my usb printer in /dev?
[09:01] <khermans> martyvis, just gcc
[09:01] <martyvis> martyvis: sure - but i want to do gnome dev
[09:01] <khermans> oh simple gnome hello world?
[09:02] <khermans> fokuslee, /dev/lp0 ?
[09:02] <toti> ??
[09:02] <khermans> fokuslee, /dev/usblp0 ?
[09:02] <toti> ????
[09:03] <fokuslee> khermans:  yeah ur rite
[09:03] <fokuslee> is there a way to double check?
[09:03] <khermans> fokuslee, echo foo | /dev/lp0
[09:03] <fokuslee> khermans thx
[09:04] <mwe> you cannot pipe to a device
[09:04] <mwe> you can redirect, though
[09:04] <mwe> echo foo > /dev/lp0
[09:04] <khermans> yea my bad
[09:05] <edgy> hallo
[09:05] <Beast> khermans, sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa
[09:05] <Beast> Package `alsa' is not installed and no info is available.
[09:05] <khermans> Beast, alsa-base
[09:05] <khermans> ?
[09:05] <Beast> rgr
[09:06] <Beast> khermans, Seemed to work better...  now to see what it did
[09:06] <khermans> Beast, aptitude search alsa | grep ^i
[09:07] <ice_cream> hi, i'm trying to setup grub splash; the file is soft-tux.xpm.gz, and i read  somewhere to add the line splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/soft-tux.xpm.gz .... first of all is this line syntax correct, and secondly which parameters do i need in the parenthesis?
[09:07] <Beast> khermans, cheers
[09:08] <edgy> ksirk on ubuntu edgy not working by default
[09:08] <ice_cream> if it helps,  /dev/hda4 is mounted on /,  and /dev/hda2 on /boot
[09:09] <ice_cream> i've tried different combinations like (hd0,3), (hd1,0)  but the splash won't load
[09:11] <martyvis> khermans: still don't seem to get /usr/include/gtk
[09:11] <Alarm> goodmorning . i did set up an apache2 last night. the problem is that i can access it only through port :443 , could be that my isp is blocking port 80 ?  or am i doing something wrong ? on ports , 80 is added .i dont mind about the port actually, but mostly if the webpage can be accessed without the :443 ending
[09:11] <khermans> martibs, gtk is not gnome
[09:12] <martyvis> khermans: surely you need gtk to dev on gnome
[09:13] <Nathalie`Occupee> Bonjour
[09:13] <Nathalie`Occupee> J'aurais besoin d'aide pour ubuntu
[09:13] <fokuslee> Khermans udevinfo -q path -n /dev/lp0  no record for 'lp0' in database any ideas?
[09:13] <khermans> martyvis, but what you are saying is that you dont have gtk libraries -- gnome does not depend on them
[09:13] <khermans> martyvis, aptitude search gtk | grep -i -- -dev
[09:14] <khermans> fokuslee, usblp0
[09:14] <Nathalie`Occupee> Vous parlez Francais ici ?
[09:14] <khermans> fokuslee, udevinfo -q path -n /dev/usblp0
[09:15] <fokuslee> khermans yeah thx i got it so lp0 is for serial port and usblp0 is any usb printer?
[09:15] <Nathalie`Occupee> Bye bye
[09:15] <khermans> fokuslee, dunno -- i would assume so
[09:16] <fokuslee> kk thx ur a great help
[09:17] <nol13> is there any way to get wmp streams ?
[09:17] <khermans> nol13, download them?
[09:20] <nol13> how? like when i go to a vid at cnn.com and it says that no windows media player was detected, how would i download that/play that?
[09:21] <poningru> !restricted
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <khermans> nol13, is it flash, mpeg?
[09:22] <khermans> nol13, link?
[09:22] <nol13> i dunno, its not flash
[09:22] <Gartral> what does it mean when your panels dont load in gnome?
[09:23] <zcat[1] > nol13, unfortunaly just about every website uses their own convoluted mashup of embedded playlist crap, and test only with Windows... very few media links work properly in Linux even if you have all the codecs and plugins installed :(
[09:23] <Gartral> i hate winblows
[09:24] <nol13> does wmp9 in wine?
[09:24] <zcat[1] > I hate lame web developers
[09:24] <nol13> me too.
[09:24] <Gartral> what does it mean when your panels dont load in gnome?
[09:24] <zcat[1] > there are simple ways of embedding media that work very well with just about every browser, in every OS.. but that would be too easy!!
[09:25] <Gartral> woaw dude, calm down
[09:25] <zcat[1] > Yeah, I know...
[09:26] <zcat[1] >  </rant>
[09:26] <Gartral> i hear ya though
[09:26] <Gartral> anyways
[09:26] <Gartral> what does it mean when your panels dont load in gnome?
[09:27] <Gartral> what does it mean when your panels dont load in gnome?
[09:27] <fokuslee> BUS=="usb", SYSFS{serial}=="TH62L141N604K8", NAME=="HPDeskjet" is this the correct syntax for udev rule?
[09:27] <nol13> what panels?
[09:28] <khermans> nol13, aptitude install totem-mozilla
[09:28] <Gartral> ive done killall gnome panels, and it loads and says that the trash aplet is causing a problem, and the question box is non responsive...
[09:28] <zcat[1] > Gartral, I think weird shit with corba. Not sure.. my wife frequently manages to get herself logged out, so the next time she logs in it only gets as far as the login sound or perhaps splash screen... restarting gdm doesn't make the problem go away, generally I end up just rebooting. Still trying to figure out what causes it...
[09:28] <frogzoo> fokuslee: you shouldn't need to poke around in udev for a usb printer
[09:28] <Gartral> same with the panels
[09:29] <fokuslee> frogzoo i thought i need to mount it presistently
[09:29] <Gartral> it stays after reboot though
[09:29] <zcat[1] > ahh, that sucks
[09:29] <Gartral> and it careys over too xdm and kde too
[09:29] <khermans> fokuslee, no usb is detected on boot
[09:29] <frogzoo> fokuslee: udev should just take care of it
[09:29] <khermans> fokuslee, even afterwards
[09:30] <fokuslee> so eventhou i have other usb devices like harddrives and cam the udev is not going to get confused?
[09:30] <Mba7eth> hi all
[09:31] <Gartral> help
[09:31] <nol13> xine or gstreamer?
[09:31] <Gartral> for hat?
[09:31] <Gartral> what*
[09:31] <Mba7eth> can some one help me in telling me why is java is much much much slower on ubuntu than in windows on the same box
[09:31] <Mba7eth> ?
[09:31] <frogzoo> nol13: xine is best
[09:32] <khermans> Mba7eth, ask sun
[09:32] <khermans> Mba7eth, this assumes you are not using gcj
[09:32] <khermans> Mba7eth, java -version
[09:33] <Cwings> hey
[09:33] <Cwings> how can i install lime wire on ubuntu?
[09:33] <khermans> Cwings, dont!  use frostwire
[09:34] <Mba7eth> khermans : gcj is the compiler right, but i use eclips so is it better to use gcj
[09:34] <Mba7eth> ?
[09:34] <AnAnt> hello, I have setup bind9 as caching name server, but I need it to lookup the domain xyz.com via a certain name server , how to do that ?
[09:34] <khermans> Mba7eth, you cant use eclipse with gck -- it is messed up royally
[09:34] <AnAnt> Mba7eth: I think eclipse needs sun java package
[09:34] <zeembo> hello all
[09:34] <fokuslee> frogzoo; khermans; ok i figured it out the only reason i should do udev rule is so that when i plugin my printer into a diff port its not gonna get a diff busid
[09:35] <zeembo> i'm having trouble setting up a slave hd.  i connected a brand new unformatted drive and i can't detect it.
[09:35] <khermans> Mba7eth, sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jdk
[09:35] <AnAnt> aptitude or apt-get ?
[09:36] <khermans> zeembo, System -> Administration -> Gnome Partition Manager
[09:36] <AnAnt> hello, I have setup bind9 as caching name server, but I need it to lookup the domain xyz.com via a certain name server , how to do that ?
[09:36] <Mba7eth> khermans : i did this .... but no escape the performance is week :(
[09:36] <khermans> AnAnt, aptitude
[09:36] <khermans> Mba7eth, did you also set it as your default java?
[09:36] <AnAnt> well, I don't like eclipse, but ppl at work use it
[09:36] <zcat[1] > anyone know what magic is required for kino to export to H.264 or mpeg4 ?
[09:36] <khermans> Mba7eth, java -version to verify
[09:37] <Mba7eth> khermans : java version "1.4.2"
[09:37] <Mba7eth> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-14ubuntu7)
[09:37] <Mba7eth> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[09:37] <Mba7eth> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[09:37] <Mba7eth> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[09:37] <khermans> Mba7eth, so you never set it
[09:37] <fokuslee> khermans; frogzoo; ok thx guys i guess i didn't even need to do that
[09:37] <Mba7eth> and how can i ?
[09:37] <AnAnt> play with the alternatives
[09:37] <zcat[1] > Err.. lest paste?
[09:37] <zeembo> khermans: i have qparted
[09:37] <fokuslee> khermans:  frogzoo this ubuntu hacks book is telling me alot of crap making it harder than it is lol
[09:38] <khermans> Mba7eth, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[09:38] <zeembo> khermans: qtparted doesn't detect anything when i open it
[09:38] <AnAnt> Mba7eth: man update-java-alternatives
[09:39] <zcat[1] > or even mpeg1 or mpeg2 ?
[09:39] <frogzoo> fokuslee: probly that books for hoary if you're lucky
[09:40] <Mba7eth> khermans , AnAnt , thanks for ur help guys :)
[09:40] <khermans> zeembo, you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:40] <zcat[1] > zeembo, does it even show up in the bios check? dmesg ?
[09:40] <AnAnt> Mba7eth: np bro
[09:41] <zeembo> ubuntu server
[09:41] <fokuslee> frogzoo well could be could be yeah ubuntu is improving soo fast
[09:41] <khermans> zeembo, ide or sata or scsi?
[09:41] <fokuslee> frogzoo u know any good shell scripting site?
[09:41] <frogzoo> fokuslee: the wiki is your best source for up to date accurate info
[09:41] <zeembo> i can see the hd in device manager
[09:41] <frogzoo> !docs | fokuslee
[09:41] <ubotu> fokuslee: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[09:41] <zeembo> its a 250 seagate ide drive
[09:42] <zeembo> uata
[09:43] <fokuslee> frogzoo:  cool thx looking at rute itz better than linuxcommand.org, : )
[09:44] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. wonder if kinoplus will do it..
[09:44] <fokuslee> !lynx
[09:44] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[09:44] <linux_user400354> do i need to have these packages installed if i use the nvidia driver from nvidia.com?   linux-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:45] <linux_user400354>   linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-kernel-common
[09:45] <zcat[1] > linux_user400354, just apt-get install nvidia-glx, it will figure out the dependencies for you..
[09:46] <linux_user400354> zcat[1] : i dont want to use that one. it is old. even google earth doesnt work well with it.
[09:46] <khermans> zeembo, you dont see it in parted?
[09:46] <zeembo> no i don't see anything at all
[09:46] <khermans> zeembo, is it your first hard drive ?
[09:46] <zeembo> khermans: it says "make sure u are in root" and i am logged in
[09:46] <zeembo> no, its my second
[09:47] <zcat[1] > linux_user400354: Ahhh.. there's a repo for the latest driver; I forget where but google should know..
[09:47] <khermans> zeembo, sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[09:47] <khermans> zeembo, sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[09:47] <zeembo> i installed ubuntu on a 10gig  set to master, and i have a brand new 250 gig on /dev/hdd
[09:47] <khermans> zeembo, p
[09:48] <frogzoo> zeembo: just run up gparted & partition it, & create ext3 file system(s)
[09:48] <zcat[1] > zeembo, hdd ? that's secondary slave.. you sure you don't mean /dev/hdb ?
[09:48] <linux_user400354> why does removing nvidia-kernel-common want to remove the linux-generic kernel too? i just dont want that nvidia package but i dont want to remove my kernel or else i wont have a kernel to boot anymore.
[09:48] <Tomcat_> linux_user400354: Installing nvidia-kernel-common should install a -386 instead of a -generic kernel
[09:48] <zcat[1] > linux_user400354, It's a metapackage... it won't remove the actual kernel.
[09:48] <zeembo> frogzoo:  the problem i'mhaving is parted isn't detecting any drives at all
[09:49] <zeembo> shoudl it be on a primary slave?
[09:49] <linux_user400354> zcat[1] : is it safe to remove all these packages? linux-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:49] <linux_user400354>    linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-kernel-common
[09:49] <zeembo> is that the problem, i've got my master hd on primary master, and cdrom on the same ide
[09:50] <zeembo> and the clean drive is on a separate cable
[09:50] <linux_user400354> it seems that the nvidia-kernel-common package is conflicting with the nvidia driver that i installed from nvidia.com
[09:50] <frogzoo> zeembo: have you set the ide master/slave jumpers properly?
[09:50] <zcat[1] > linux_user400354, Ummmm... probably not.
[09:50] <zeembo> frogzoo: yeah the jumpers are correct
[09:50] <frogzoo> zeembo: I don't think so, if you can't see the disk
[09:51] <zeembo> frogzoo: shoudl i set the secondary hd on master too? since its on another ide
[09:51] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: You should just blacklist Ubuntu's nvidia module, it is explained on wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:51] <fokuslee> zeembo could it be a powersupply problem?
[09:51] <frogzoo> zeembo: usually they come set to master already - as long as it's on it's own cable ie no slave, should be good
[09:52] <zeembo> frogzoo: ok i'll change the jumper back to master
[09:52] <frogzoo> zeembo: for x in b c d ; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd$x ; done
[09:52] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: thanks for pointing that out, but where on the wiki is it?
[09:52] <fokuslee> zeembo i had a problem with using both ide and sata drives at the same time my comp would only recongize one
[09:52] <zcat[1] > zeembo, each cable can have one master and one slave.. If you leave the drives all set to cable select (and have later than ATA33 cables) it's harder to mess up. the drive at the far end will be master.
[09:53] <Jordan_U> !nvidia | linux_user400354 It is here in the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com instructions
[09:53] <ubotu> linux_user400354 It is here in the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com instructions: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:53] <gecko> hey all im having a desktop problem...hoping someone can help
[09:53] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : CS doesn't always work - master/slave jumpering is bulletproof
[09:54] <frogzoo> gecko: well we don't know what your problem is
[09:54] <michaelpo> hi.. why are they 4 workspaces? how does one use them effectively and efficiently?
[09:54] <zcat[1] > frogzoo, It doesn't?!
[09:54] <gecko> lol was checking to make sure ppl were here
[09:55] <gecko> well my problem is if i go under gnome and log in... all i see is desktop... icons and bg... but no menus
[09:55] <frogzoo> "
[09:55] <gecko> anything
[09:55] <fokuslee> michaelpo:  its easy web for one video for one dev for one; game for one  ^.^V
[09:55] <frogzoo> Usually, when you buy a new hard drive, it will have the jumper pins in the cable select position. This allows the drive to assume the proper role of master or slave based on the connector used on the cable. For the cable select setting to work properly, the cables you are using must support the cable select feature."
[09:55] <gecko> and if i try it in failsafe.. i get some kind of daemon tools error?
[09:55] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : most ide cables don't support CS
[09:55] <zcat[1] > linux_user400354; I think "deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable" is the repo you're after
[09:55] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: from that website, i went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and i see nothing about blacklisting ubuntu's nvidia module. please help.
[09:56] <dtvarnum> hello
[09:56] <zcat[1] > frogzoo, Any ATA66 or ATA133 cable should.. only ATA33 won't.
[09:56] <Feengur> hi
[09:56] <dtvarnum> ubuntu Edgy Eft here
[09:56] <fokuslee> zcat[1] :  yep yep that one has the 9series driver
[09:56] <grub_booter> michaelpo: heh - that's up to you - i tend to use different workspaces for different things - like chat in one, browser in another, open office docs in another, software devlopment tools in another (and sometimes i add more)
[09:56] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : kk
[09:56] <gb_> hi
[09:56] <gb_> anyone tried ntfs-3g?
[09:56] <fokuslee> zcat[1] :  but u have to downgrade restircted moduel to ~release lupine
[09:56] <frogzoo> !ntfs-3g
[09:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:56] <Feengur> was wondering if someone could help me with an Nvidia driver installation?
[09:56] <zcat[1] > !nvidia | Feengur
[09:56] <ubotu> Feengur: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:56] <frogzoo> !helpme | feengur
[09:56] <ubotu> feengur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:56] <fokuslee> Feengur wut u need help with?
[09:57] <gb_> frogzoo: i was having some issues :)
[09:57] <gb_> it does mount but in ro mode
[09:57] <Feengur> well, i've been through most of the tutorials on the site
[09:57] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: Ahh, it seems that the wiki has been changed recently, I'll find a better guide
[09:57] <Feengur> but every seemingly successful driver install seems to mess up my xorg.conf
[09:57] <gecko> any ideas to what my problem is ? only having a desktop with no menus loading or anything in GNOME? but if i do KDE its fine...
[09:57] <fokuslee> Feengur what is the specific problem?
[09:58] <Feengur> well i got the driver from the nvidia site
[09:58] <Feengur> but i can't install with x running
[09:58] <Feengur> and i can't d/l the proper headers in any runlevel below 3...
[09:59] <gb_> gecko:  prob. currupt , did u try making a new user?
[09:59] <fokuslee> Feengur follow this site http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia
[09:59] <frogzoo> gecko: did you upgrade from dapper?
[09:59] <Feengur> kk
[09:59] <Feengur> thanks
[09:59] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: okay, thank you
[09:59] <fokuslee> no need to make
[09:59] <kanpachi> anyone running virtualbox willing to help please?
[09:59] <gecko> gb_ and frogzoo: i put a clean install of 6.10 on here. I didnt "upgrade" i installed it from the iso...
[10:00] <gecko> it worked ok at first, then i installed kde as well and then beryl...and then thats when it went bad i think..when beryl came in... right now i am reinstalling gnome
[10:01] <khermans> kanpachi, ?
[10:01] <kanpachi> i can't get it to run
[10:01] <kanpachi> it keep saying it can't load the kernel module
[10:01] <khermans> kanpachi,  i built it from source this week -- whats wrong
[10:01] <kanpachi> i'm using Dapper
[10:02] <kanpachi> that's the error i get
[10:02] <kanpachi> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed.
[10:02] <khermans> kanpachi, used edgy ... you must be root to load modules
[10:02] <khermans> kanpachi, sudo modprobe ..
[10:02] <kanpachi> well, while i installed it, it said it can't create it
[10:02] <gecko> ok..i installed it from terminal..im going to go try it
[10:03] <michaelpo> hmm... ok.. ive use linux for about 3 days... have not started using the different workspaces feature yet... will try to use it... still in winxp mindset...
[10:03] <khermans> kanpachi, what is 'it'?
[10:03] <fokuslee> !Cedega
[10:03] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:03] <DARKGuy> michaelpo: once you get the hang of it, you won't want to go back =)
[10:03] <riotkittie> workspaces are your friend
[10:03] <riotkittie> though, i rarely use them :P
[10:04] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: i believe i found what you were talking about here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[10:04] <DARKGuy> I have a secondary monitor plugged in, so no need for workspaces here xD
[10:04] <kanpachi> khermans, this is the error i get while installing
[10:04] <kanpachi> "Starting VirtualBox kernel moduleFATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[10:04] <kanpachi> (modprobe vboxdrv failed)...fail!
[10:04] <kanpachi> invoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox, action "start" failed.
[10:04] <kanpachi> "
[10:05] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: Yes, the part where it says "Alternatively, you can edit the /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules configuration file and disable the NVIDIA linux-restricted kernel modules (nvidia, nvidia_legacy) via:
[10:05] <Jordan_U>     DISABLED_MODULES="nv"" is what you need to do
[10:05] <riotkittie> ah,  i have a CRT plugged into my laptop but i can only clone screens , not use them seperately
[10:05] <khermans> kanpachi, sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[10:05] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: I think you can though, by tweaking xorg.conf a bit o.o
[10:06] <grub_booter> michaelpo: i was forced to use xp recently (sigh), but glad to find that the nvidia drivers provided multiple desktops... (not very well, but it kinda worked)
[10:06] <kanpachi> it doesn't find it khermans
[10:06] <fokuslee> XP is awesomeee
[10:06] <cidx> what is the comand to look what the lan ip is ?
[10:06] <khermans> kanpachi, i just followed the docs, and it worked for me on edgy
[10:06] <riotkittie> DARKGuy: i thought i had to have two cards to do that, or a recent ati/nvidia
[10:06] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: i do not have that file, but i do have /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[10:06] <DARKGuy> cidx: ifconfig
[10:06] <kanpachi> which docs?
[10:06] <khermans> kanpachi, virtualbox website
[10:06] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: Nah, any card can do that, as long as they're not both AGP
 Thx :)
[10:06] <khermans> kanpachi, i built it from source, dont know about binaries
[10:06] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: On my system it is: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[10:07] <kanpachi> oh ok
[10:07] <DARKGuy> cidx: welcome :)
[10:07] <khermans> kanpachi, actually someone told me it didnt work with binary on ubuntu
[10:07] <kanpachi> maybe i should try it too
[10:07] <khermans> ya
[10:07] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: is /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common what you edited to get the driver from nvidia.com to work?
[10:07] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: for example, I have a GF4 Ti 4200 and a Trident 9660 4Mb that I used when I had a P133Mhz back in '98
[10:07] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: I havn
 who can you write to me whit red text :) ?
[10:08] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: I havn't done it myself, but that is how you would disable the nvidia driver from loading at boot
[10:08] <gecko> woohoo... i have gnome back!
[10:08] <frogzoo> gecko: any luck? try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1164346&postcount=11  if it works, please update bug @ : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf2/+bug/50150
[10:08] <DARKGuy> cidx: that's just a way to notify you that someone said your name :P
[10:08] <DARKGuy> cidx: it's done in your IRC program, not by me :P
[10:08] <cidx> DARKGuy okeeey
[10:09] <fokuslee> !thetime
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thetime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <gecko> frogzoo: i got it to work.
[10:09] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: i have the driver from nvidia.com installed and x wont start. i want to be able to use it. are those instructions for me or for something else?
[10:09] <gecko> i just reinstalled from kde..  kde runs too slow.
[10:10] <gecko> now is there a way to remove kde?
[10:10] <frogzoo> gecko: if kde is too slow, how you gonna like gnome?
[10:10] <riotkittie> sudo apt-get remove kde*   perhaps
[10:10] <fokuslee> gecko u can install the kde-core
[10:10] <riotkittie> gnome is faster than kde
[10:10] <cidx> DARKGuy were can i get antivarus program ?
[10:10] <gecko> ok... wow.. im hearing mixed opinions here
[10:10] <riotkittie> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop ... if you installed that way
[10:10] <fokuslee> gecko yep gnome is faster b/c kubuntu load all the extra lib just to be compatible
[10:11] <DARKGuy> cidx: o.o I've never used any av program in Linux ('cause I don't have the need to, contrary to Windows :P) but I've heard of a program named ClamAV, maybe you can find it in Synaptic ?
[10:11] <gecko> ok thats what i thought...i thought kde was more graphical
[10:11] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: i followed the instructions. im going to go see if it worked and then ill be back.
[10:11] <gecko> i think gnomes theme is better lol
[10:11] <cidx> DARKGuy okeeey thx for the help :)
[10:11] <gecko> i jus dont know how i should "customize" this...
[10:11] <Iphigenia> Hi!! Can anybody help me configure external browsers in Bluefish HTML editor?
[10:12] <michaelpo> will figure a way to put the workspaces to good use....
[10:12] <DARKGuy> cidx: Yeah, use the Synaptic Package Manager, try searching for "clamav" else, activate the universe repositories and such in the options menu (I'm not using Gnome atm :/ ) then update the list and search again, you should get it that way. Welcome :)
[10:12] <fokuslee> gecko if u really want fast try fluxbuntu
[10:12] <gecko> any1 here use aim and just like to chat? but still like to help someone whos new in linux now and again... cuz i need linux friends
[10:12] <fokuslee> gecko or Xubuntu with xfce
[10:12] <gecko> i dont like the look of it fokuslee
[10:12] <gecko> i have a fast computer
[10:12] <DARKGuy> xfce is damn better
[10:12] <gecko> i think its just my install
[10:13] <fokuslee> Dakrguy better than wut?
[10:13] <cidx> DARKGuy okeeey !!!!
[10:13] <gecko> i would use 64 bit but software incompatibilities kept me from doing that, with my small linux experience
[10:13] <Iphigenia> I am a Xubuntu user and XFCE is nice and fast
[10:13] <DARKGuy> fokuslee: to me, better than gnome in terms of speed :P
[10:13] <fokuslee> Darkguy oh yeah for sure
[10:13] <gecko> DARKGuy: XFCE is made specifically for slower machines lol
[10:13] <fokuslee> Darkguy i ran xfce on my tnt2 card p3 no problem
[10:13] <gecko> thats why
[10:14] <DARKGuy> gecko: yeah, that's why it's good and fast too :P
[10:14] <riotkittie> i dont find xubuntu to be less of a drain than gnome, honestly.
[10:14] <DARKGuy> fokuslee: cool
[10:14] <DARKGuy> eh, could differ between PCs o.o
[10:14] <fokuslee> Fluxbuntu is Da best thou : )
[10:14] <fokuslee> toobad itz not part of ubuntu
[10:14] <riotkittie> err. the xubuntu desktop, anyway
[10:14] <gecko> DarkGuy: yea..ill stick to Gnome... i have both 64 bit and 32... once i get good with 32 and command line..ill move back to 64..
[10:15] <DARKGuy> Could be, I used fluxbox for some time and was quite good, however, too bad Fluxbuntu hasn't updated to 6.10 yet :(
[10:15] <gecko> what is so great about Fluxbuntu?
[10:15] <Iphigenia> I have often wondered if people avoid Xubuntu / XFC because it is not the biggest = sort of a man problem :-)
[10:15] <DARKGuy> gecko: Ah, I see, good luck then :)
[10:15] <Bnirkow> hello
[10:15] <DARKGuy> hi Bnirkow
[10:15] <stian2> i have a pretty fast machine and still use xfce. guess i favor speed...
[10:15] <riotkittie> gecko: Fluxbuntu ... has the Fluxbox WM which is insanely speedy and lightweight
[10:15] <Cyrus25801> hi everyone
[10:15] <DARKGuy> same here stian2 ^^
[10:16] <stian2> can't stand to use beryl xgl stuff though, it really slows everything down
[10:16] <gecko> riotkittie: isnt it more simple tho? sort of like DSL distro looking lol?
[10:16] <Bnirkow> i have installed ubuntu from "alternate cd" and ubuntu stops when it start (after installation) on some scripts
[10:16] <Bnirkow> who can help me?
[10:16] <gecko> which version Bnirkow?
[10:16] <Bnirkow> 6.10\
[10:17] <frogzoo> Bnirkow: try booting with 'linux acpi=off'
[10:17] <gecko> hmm... does it stick at 46%? lol
[10:17] <riotkittie> gecko: yes. DSL has fluxbox.  simplicity rocks, though. but you can customize it to your liking for the most part
[10:17] <Cyrus25801> I want to setup my S-video out on my geforce 6600. I have tried the howto's on wiki and i have checked the fourms.but still haven't come right could someone help
[10:17] <gecko> riotkittie: im not experienced enough in linux to even get the basics done..let alone set up customizations of fluxbox..or install it lol
[10:17] <Bnirkow> frogzoo: ok i try, but what will wive me this: "acpi=off" ?
[10:17] <linux1> Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings.  how do i fix this?
[10:18] <Bnirkow> give*
[10:18] <fokuslee> gecko yeah stick with ubuntu then all the questions *well 99% has been answered on the forum and soo many cool pplz on irc helping
[10:18] <riotkittie> gecko: don't sell yourself short :P
[10:18] <Killerkiwi> any body know hoe to fix this ... Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
[10:18] <Killerkiwi> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
[10:19] <Killerkiwi> vncviewr --listen
[10:19] <gecko> riotkittie: dont get what u mean there.
[10:19] <fokuslee> gecko don't say ur nub
[10:19] <fokuslee> gecko thast wut she means
[10:19] <gecko> i am! lol..
[10:19] <fokuslee> gecko but im nub too soo we can be buddies
[10:19] <linux1>  Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings.  how do i fix this
[10:20] <DrSpin> can anyone tell me if the default 6.10 PHP Packages include PDO support?
[10:20] <gecko> haha.. ive been using linux for less than a week... ive used distros way back.. before 6.06... like 5.10 when it came out... but i mean... its been ages..it seems like..
[10:20] <gecko> i started beta testing for vista.. :S as u can see why im back to linux lol
[10:20] <riotkittie> gecko: yeah, youre new, but really, you can do anything :P you may not succeed at first but the ubuntu community at large is great, there's guides and easy to follow how-tos for almost everything
[10:20] <Feengur> hmmm
[10:20] <fokuslee> gecko hahahaha yeah vista is a nitemare
[10:20] <DARKGuy> gecko: is vista really... that resource-hogging as people say? :/
[10:21] <riotkittie> and people are more than willling to help you if they can :P
[10:21] <Balsamic_Chicken> gecko how do u sign up for beta testing for vista, i know i can't do it now, just for future reference
[10:21] <riotkittie> ah.
[10:21] <mariux> my x-server has turned into a 1280 viewframe onto a 1400 desktop after i had to kill mplayer, how do i fix? krandrtray does nothing...
[10:21] <fokuslee> gecko i think microsoft pursposely make their os more and more hardware demanding so u have to buy new box
[10:21] <fokuslee> which sucks
[10:21] <gecko> beta testing is done.. but this isnt vista discussion... and yes...betas were horrible... but supposidly RTM is ok... so idk... anyway
[10:22] <gecko> and yes.. fokuslee.. that would be very correct.thats y my laptop says "Vista Compatible"
[10:22] <gecko> riotkittie/fokuslee   : aim? or msn by chance?
[10:22] <blujay> Would anyone like to play Pioneers (Settlers of Catan)?
[10:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> gecko so where do i sign for future versions of window testing
[10:22] <fokuslee> my aim is LLLLoooBBBB but im not one most times
[10:22] <fokuslee> and yes that is a real aim
[10:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> blujay sure, where do i get settlers of catan
[10:22] <Jordan_U> blujay: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:23] <blujay> Balsamic_Chicken: it's pioneers, in universe
[10:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> k
[10:23] <gecko> Balsamic _ i could not tell u... There is non atm.
[10:23] <Feengur> fokuslee what was that wiki link again for the nvidia setup?
[10:23] <riotkittie> this is my aim name also. i am rarely on tho.
[10:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> ...gecko, this is what? what's non atm mean
[10:23] <yaman> what is the best irc client i can use on linux ?
[10:23] <gecko> AT THE MOMENT :)
[10:23] <gecko> lol
[10:23] <gecko> im 19...sry i use short cuts
[10:23] <Jordan_U> yaman: Define "best" :)
[10:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> i keep saying for future reference
[10:23] <blujay> Balsamic_Chicken: you want pioneers-client
[10:24] <fokuslee> Feengur; http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia
[10:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> gecko lol looks like i got 2 more years to learn ur lingo
[10:24] <fokuslee> Yeah cuz riotkittie is soo freaking addicted to this channel ignoring her faimly
[10:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> gecko but for future reference, if they have newer versions of windows and they do beta test, where do i sign up
[10:24] <gecko> lol ur only 17? wow..thats my gf's age
[10:24] <hmj> I encounter the following error each time I try to download/install java-gcj-compat-dev
[10:24] <hmj> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/antlr/antlr_2.7.6-4ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> gecko that's what i've been asking
[10:24] <hmj> Bad header line [IP: 195.248.90.38 80] 
[10:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> gecko looks like ur gf would fit me much better
[10:24] <gecko> haha.. funny
[10:24] <narcisiss_> a
[10:25] <gecko> no..she doesnt date her age... or younger..but anyway...
[10:25] <gecko> just go to microsoft
[10:25] <gecko> website
[10:25] <gecko> and then check in the developers section
[10:25] <yaman> jordan_u mmm i am using the x-chat and i think it's not like the mirc on windows so i need some thing like the mirc but on linux
[10:25] <riotkittie> uh. its 4:30am. my husband's at work, and my kid's asleep. iM not ignoring anyone. mind your business, punk. =)
[10:25] <gecko> you may have to do a search blasamic:
[10:25] <Balsamic_Chicken> bluejay hey where are u online, i got it installed
[10:25] <gecko> wow riotkittie is on a rage...and poor riot...has kids and a husband :S lol
[10:26] <gecko> sux for him tho.. work at 4:30 am
[10:26] <blujay> Balsamic_Chicken: click join public game, then come to the game called The Four Islands
[10:26] <Balsamic_Chicken> k, sec
[10:26] <michaelpo> how do i drag one open software from one workspace to another?
[10:26] <Wibble-> Does anyone know how I can convert a putty .ppk to work with openssh? I only have Linux, so can't use puttygen
[10:26] <fokuslee> riotkittie==vampire
[10:26] <DARKGuy> Um, I always knew riotkittie was cool, but I didn't know riotkittie was a she, so now she's way cooler than she was o.o;
[10:26] <Jordan_U> yaman: I don't use windows so I don't know what mirc is like, sorry, I personally like xchat-gnome and for the terminal irssi
[10:26] <DARKGuy> hah
[10:26] <fokuslee> riotkittie: go to sleep la here is some milk
[10:26] <DARKGuy> oO
[10:26] <gecko> lol
[10:27] <yaman> jordan_U thanx :)
[10:27] <gecko> Fokuslee...where u from?
[10:27] <fokuslee> cali
[10:27] <gecko> o wait.. we've established that already.
[10:27] <gecko> im dumb
[10:27] <Jordan_U> michaelpo: You can hold shift while switching workspaces ( the window with focus will come with you )
[10:27] <nol13> is it safe to upgrade from dapper yet?
[10:27] <DARKGuy> michaelpo: right-click the window titlebar, then click "Move to another workspace"
[10:27] <DARKGuy> Um, that too
[10:27] <gecko> nol13: define safe :D?
[10:28] <fokuslee> nol13:  yes u mean edgy?
[10:28] <gecko> lol
[10:28] <michaelpo> DARKGuy: thanks... never knew that options existed....
[10:28] <michaelpo> Jordan_U: thanks too..
[10:28] <fokuslee> edgy broke my fsplash but otherthan dat safe
[10:28] <DARKGuy> michaelpo: xD welcome, you could also do what Jordan_U said, it's the same thing :P
[10:28] <gecko> DarkGuy...thanks for that tip.. i didnt know that either lol
[10:28] <DARKGuy> gecko: lol, welcome
[10:29] <DARKGuy> talking about splashes... how can I change the normal ubuntu one?
[10:29] <gecko> hold on Dark i know this one lol
[10:29] <DARKGuy> yay
[10:29] <frogzoo> nol13: really depends how much you've customised your setup, a stock install should probly upgrade without too many hassles
[10:29] <nol13> i dunno i guess safe = wont trash my internet connection(again, every kernel upgrade does) and wont make thing not run right
[10:29] <gecko> cuz i did it earlier...but let me figure out where i went
[10:29] <linux_user400354> when i get to the gdm login screen after installing the nvidia driver, i cant see the whole screen at once. if i move my mouse to one of the edges, then the screen will move in that direction. if i move my mouse to the top for example, the screen will scroll up and then i cant see the sessions button at the bottom anymore. does anyone else have that problem? it is similar to playing a game when the game when the resolution does not
[10:29] <linux_user400354>  return to normal after exiting the game.
[10:29] <Jordan_U> nol13: I have heard bad things but never had problems myself, if you use ATI or Nvidia 3D acell WILL break, but that is because of xorg 7 and very easy to fix.
[10:30] <gecko> nol13.. i was kidding... hehe... its always safe... u jus gotta know linux well :P
[10:30] <nol13> not too too much, few things here and there
[10:30] <weiyan_> hi
[10:31] <gecko> DarkGuy: sry its much easier in KDE to do... u jus go into Control Center lol.. and its under appearance... so idk in Gnome  yet
[10:31] <riotkittie> DARKGuy: sudo apt-get install gnome-splashscreen-manager  ... then you will find it in the Preference menu,  i believe
[10:31] <nol13> ya i got a nvidia
[10:31] <DARKGuy> linux_user400354: try editing your xorg.conf file ("sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf") and go to the bottom. There must be some lines with resolutions. Try leaving only a high one there and restart gdm ("sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"). Not the best way but at least you'll be able to see the screen
[10:31] <Jordan_U> nol13: If you get everything you want from Dapper, don't upgrade, if you want eye candy ( beryl ) go with Edgy, if you are in between it is probably safe but no guarentee
[10:31] <gecko> ah.. gracias riotkittie
[10:31] <riotkittie> oh wait. you are using Xfce arent you ?
[10:31] <DARKGuy> gecko: ah xD
[10:31] <riotkittie> hold a sec
[10:31] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: cool, thanks :D
[10:32] <DARKGuy> gecko: no sabia q hablabas espaol xD
[10:32] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: yes o.o
[10:32] <Cyrus25801> how do i check what kernal i have
[10:32] <Jordan_U> !spanish
[10:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:32] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: uname -a
[10:32] <Cyrus25801> thanx
[10:32] <DARKGuy> I know, geeze :/
[10:32] <fokuslee> !chinese
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <DARKGuy> xD
[10:33] <gecko> DarkGuy: yes i speak spanish. but so that bot shuts up..im not
[10:33] <fokuslee> awhhh omg taht bot is racist
[10:33] <gecko> haha
[10:33] <DARKGuy> gecko: s'okay :P
[10:33] <fokuslee> !german
[10:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:33] <fokuslee> ok dat bot is sooo racist im filing a law suit
[10:33] <kiro> join #xbins
[10:33] <riotkittie> DARKGuy: try going to the Xfce menu, settings >> splash screen
[10:33] <gecko> DarkGuy: i try not to speak much spanish now. Im an english education major :P
[10:34] <fokuslee> gecko how is that different then english major?
[10:34] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: Ah yes, that's for the XFCE splash screen (I changed it to have a mac look :P) I was meaning the framebuffer splash one, when the PC is booting ^^;; sorry for not clarifying it up :/
[10:34] <fokuslee> we shold all be banned thou cus we are all off topic
[10:34] <riotkittie> oh
[10:34] <gecko> lol speaking spanish in an english major? u tell me
[10:34] <gecko> lol
[10:34] <riotkittie> brb. let me take a look.
[10:34] <DARKGuy> gecko: cool heh x)
[10:35] <linux_user400354> DARKGuy: have you had that problem before?
[10:35] <oFF-beAt> gecko, since u r an english major.. i have a problem with my amsn language
[10:35] <oFF-beAt> :P
[10:35] <DARKGuy> linux_user400354: not at gdm, but sometimes when I change to fullscreen apps like WoW or other games, resolution gets locked :/
[10:35] <gecko> its so weird. Idk what im going to do with my life i dont think. Im in the  Air Force as a Tactical Communications Specialist..working with computers. but im an english ed major? lol
[10:35] <gecko> whats up oFF-?
[10:36] <DARKGuy> linux_user400354: "xvidtune -lock" and then "xvidtune -next" solves it for me, but since you're in GDM, there's no terminal for you there in that point
[10:36] <DARKGuy> gecko: air force? cool o.o
[10:36] <gecko> oFF-BeAt: you are having a problem with amsn language?
[10:36] <gecko> DarkGuy: yes... i jus transfered over form army
[10:36] <oFF-beAt> i can't set the languages.. says can't get language stuff from the net.. n also.. if i press enter gives me \r   .. n the rest of the keys gives me \t \b
[10:36] <gecko> from*
[10:37] <gecko> hmmm...
[10:37] <gecko> how are u trying to get it from the "net"?
[10:37] <oFF-beAt> just tried to set the default language as english.. i dun really see the point though caz my default keyboard layout is english
[10:38] <oFF-beAt> and language options gives me n error saying can't retrive languages
[10:38] <oFF-beAt> from the internet
[10:38] <gecko> wait.. u tried to set teh default lanugage as english... from what?
[10:39] <fokuslee> TEMP_FILE=$TEMP_DIR/printfile.$$.$RANDOM, ok what does $$ do again its really late and i can't think
[10:39] <frogzoo> fokuslee: echo $$
[10:39] <gecko> what is the command to uninstall kubuntu-desktop from terminal? sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop?
[10:39] <gecko> i got an error lol
[10:40] <fokuslee> frogzoo yeah i know but i get a random number
[10:40] <gecko> i gotta go to bed ladies and gents.. so good night...ill be on tomorrow some time lol
[10:40] <gecko> same name later
[10:41] <oFF-beAt> :/ now y did he ask me all that Qs..??
[10:41] <fokuslee> frogzoo wait nm i get pid
[10:41] <frogzoo> fokuslee: PID = $$
[10:41] <oFF-beAt> and just left like that?
[10:41] <fokuslee> frogzoo hehe thx
[10:41] <lojuven> !addon
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <fokuslee> frogzoo knows soo much Makes me jealous
[10:42] <fokuslee> : )
[10:42] <lojuven> @findjuve
[10:43] <lojuven> roki balboa
[10:44] <lojuven> @find roki balboa
[10:44] <yaman> jordan_u what is list channel command in the x-chat?
[10:45] <Jordan_U> yaman: /list
[10:46] <Jordan_U> yaman: Or alt+c to bring up a window, or Network -> Channels...
[10:46] <Jordan_U> ( in xchat-gnome )
[10:46] <Alarm> when installing azureus from synaptic or adept manager, where does it store all azureus files ?
[10:47] <yaman> thanx :)
[10:48] <sskk> In the gdmsetup, it is possible to define a user to automatically login. However, only one user is shown in the list of users to autologin. I have another user who's a member of the same groups, but he does not show up in the list. Any clues why?
[10:48] <Jordan_U> Alarm: whereis azreus ( it's a comand )
[10:48] <lojuven> @findnataleanewyork
[10:48] <aalhamad> hi..
[10:48] <aalhamad> how can i compile in C?
[10:48] <Alarm> Jordan_U,  i dont have it installed. i installed it on another way, thats why i want to see if they are stored in both ways in the same dir. now its beeing installed on /opt/azureus
[10:48] <frogzoo> Alarm: under .azureus by default i think, check under options
[10:48] <Jordan_U> aalhamad: You need to install gcc
[10:48] <aalhamad> i have this..
[10:49] <Alarm> frogzoo,  i dont mean the user files but the bin files
[10:49] <aalhamad> it can compile c and C++?
[10:49] <frogzoo> aalhamad: install build-essential
[10:51] <Jordan_U> Alarm:  /usr/bin/azureus /usr/X11R6/bin/azureus /usr/bin/X11/azureus /usr/share/azureus /usr/share/man/man1/azureus.1.gz
[10:51] <lojuven> @find nome_file
[10:51] <Alarm> ok thank you
[10:51] <Iphigenia> Hi again, any Bluefish experts arrived recently?
[10:51] <Alarm> a last question . what kind of directory is /opt ? i mean why was it installed there automatically
[10:52] <Jordan_U> Alarm: /opt is for binary apps installed without the package manager AFIK
[10:52] <Alarm> okie , thank you
[10:53] <lojuven> !addon
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Jordan_U> !msgthebot | lojuven
[10:53] <ubotu> lojuven: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:53] <Xerroz> how can i go about getting the packages for KDevelop?
[10:57] <zbogdan> hello, How can I eject/ umount an usb stick? Or how do i tell the device to close? (I have ubuntu 6.06)
[10:57] <DARKGuy> Hey Spee_Der! how it's going? ^_^
[10:57] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[10:57] <Tomcat_> zbogdan: Right click on the device on the Desktop, then "eject"
[10:57] <Spee_Der> Don't know how, but I made the dual card work !
[10:57] <Spee_Der> It's awesome to say the least !
[10:57] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: good morning heh ^^ - YAY! :D
[10:58] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: what did you do to make it work ^^?
[10:58] <crazy_penguin> good morning to all!
[10:58] <frogzoo> zbogdan: you can install the disk manager into a taskbar
[10:58] <Spee_Der> Please, tell me how to post the xorg.conf so you can read it.
[10:58] <Spee_Der> GM crazy !
[10:58] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: pastebin.ca :P
[10:58] <Spee_Der> Ok, will try.... brb
[10:59] <zbogdan> well my disk has no eject option when i right click on it
[10:59] <DARKGuy> good mornin' crazy_penguin
[11:01] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy, http://pastebin.ca/323400
[11:01] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: ! *checks*
[11:01] <zbogdan> I installed disk manager in a task bar and it has eject option when i left click on a device in it
[11:01] <zbogdan> thanks frogzoo!
[11:02] <yakumo> which player to use to play 3gp format??
[11:02] <ivx> hello, if i run "top" with nothing else it is showing a lot of memory being used, on both my machines. then for all the programs %MEM is tiny, where is it all goin
[11:03] <beniamino> i just installed realplayer, including 'mozilla addons', from the real website. realplayer works fine but doesn't get embedded in firefox... is there a trick to this?
[11:03] <lojuven> !addon
[11:03] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: Ah, pretty interesting o.o kinda like mine, just that you added Screen 0 and Screen 1, shared the BusID and have the ServerLayout a bit different in the Screen location, but hey, glad it worked! :D
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Spee_Der> Well. For the most part it is working well.
[11:04] <Spee_Der> There are a couple of issues yet.
[11:05] <Spee_Der> I'm not sure if the issues are related to the nVIDIA, or something else.
[11:05] <eternalswd> beniamino, did you reopen firefox if you had it open while adding realplayer?
[11:05] <Spee_Der> I get total lock on all except for the mouse.
[11:05] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: Issues loke what?
[11:05] <beniamino> eternalswd: yeah, and it appears correctly in about:plugins
[11:05] <zeembo> can someone tell me the root account default password
[11:05] <lojuven> @find wwe
[11:05] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: *like - ah, you mean you can't move windows between monitors ?
[11:05] <Spee_Der> And the mouse will not move to other screen/
[11:06] <Spee_Der> I'm not sure if this is a memory low problem, or problem with the several programs that are running.
[11:06] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: Mouse moving problems could be because of some things in the xorg.conf
[11:07] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy, but it is not a mouse problem. The mouse keeps going, and stays on one monitor or the other. Everything else locks....
[11:07] <Spee_Der> No task bars, nothing.
[11:08] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: waaait I'm a bit confused here. By "lock" you mean you can't move them inside the same monitor, or between them?
[11:08] <Spee_Der> Hmmmm
[11:09] <beniamino> eternalswd: flash won't play either, though again the plugin seems to be correctly installed
[11:09] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy, both monitors on and working with several programs running on each.
[11:09] <Ubuntu_on_fire> can anyone help me... i cant connect to the internet through my wireless device i got the driver installed and i got the wep key and told it that it was using hex code and everything, when i select it on the icon thing on the menu (the connection stats thing, ubuntus version of windows start bar status icons... the icon with two little windows) and select my connection it says signal 80%...
[11:09] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ...then i try to go to a web site and i cant... wats the matter? i tried to install a wireless manager but i dont know how to install it from that compressed folder (.tar)
[11:10] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy, all of a sudden all programs stop responding. Mouse will only move on which ever monitor it is on when the lockup happens and won't activate the task bar either.
[11:10] <Ubuntu_on_fire> on ubuntu 6.10
[11:11] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: . . . weird I say @_@...
[11:11] <Spee_Der> Yeh.
[11:11] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i dual booted windows and ubuntu btw(thats how im online right now)
[11:11] <eternalswd> beniamino, have you tried using "firefox -safe-mode" this will make sure extensions aren't interfering
[11:11] <Spee_Der> I was using Opera (latest distro). and several other programs.
[11:11] <Spee_Der> One of those programs got trashed and won't start after a hard reset.
[11:12] <Spee_Der> Mozilla Thunderbird was open also as was KSTARS.
[11:12] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ?
[11:12] <slowz> Ubugtu, can you ping your router.. if so i would say its a DNS issue
[11:12] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: *shrug* I have no idea about that o.o a clue could be the drivers, or low memory/too much HD transfer depending on how many apps you have active. I've had that happen when I play WoW on a monitor and try to use other stuff in the right monitor, it lags -bad-... have you tried using xinerama and see if you get the same issue o.o?
[11:13] <beniamino> eternalswd: yep, that fixes it............
[11:13] <Ubuntu_on_fire> how do i ping it?
[11:13] <Spee_Der> Haven't tried that. I have opted to stay away from that type of program, like twinview etc......
[11:14] <Spee_Der> in terminal ping (routers_address)
[11:14] <Spee_Der> ie: ping 192.168.1.1
[11:14] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: Yeah, I don't like them too much either :/ mm well, I'm clueless heh :/ at least you got 'em working o.o
[11:14] <Spee_Der> Yeh.
[11:14] <Ubuntu_on_fire> so how do i figure out my routers ip lol (is it the same way i do in windows?)
[11:15] <Spee_Der> I wish I could see a 'crash_log' . . .
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> im new to linux and a master at windows
[11:15] <Spee_Der> Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux and learning.
[11:15] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: there are various logs in /var/log , but I dunno what would be the one to look at
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> so i want to learn linux
[11:16] <eternalswd> beniamino, can you pastebin what extensions you have installed?
[11:16] <Spee_Der> Ubuntu_on_fire, do you know the address of the router ?
[11:16] <Ubuntu_on_fire> yea i think so
[11:16] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ill try later
[11:16] <Spee_Der> Ubuntu_on_fire, Okay. Open a terminal window.
[11:16] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i dont wanna reboot right now
[11:16] <Bnirkow> hi again
[11:16] <Spee_Der> Ubuntu_on_fire, then type -->> ping (the_routers_address)
[11:16] <slowz> Ubugtu, ping -b -c 3 192.168.0.0 , should find your router addy
[11:16] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok just tell me the steps
[11:16] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:17] <eternalswd> beniamino, extension list dumper https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3746/
[11:17] <Ubuntu_on_fire> what happens if it doesnt
[11:17] <Spee_Der> Ubuntu_on_fire, Well, let's first see if it does answer.
[11:17] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:17] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i guess ill try now
[11:17] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ill be back in a while
[11:18] <Bnirkow> i have problem with my ubuntu, when i boot fresh installed system, it stops on init scripts
[11:18] <Spee_Der> Ubugtu, you want to see the reply I get when I ping my router as an example ?
[11:18] <Bnirkow> can anyone help me?
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> please
[11:18] <Spee_Der> Ubuntu_on_fire,  ping 192.168.1.1
[11:18] <Spee_Der> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:18] <Spee_Der> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=150 time=0.660 ms
[11:18] <beniamino> eternalswd: i got there... i got rid of both totem and swfdec and reinstalled the commercial versions and now they both work. many thanks!
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ohl
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ohk*
[11:19] <Spee_Der> Bnirkow, what's up ?
[11:19] <Spee_Der> !ask
[11:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ill come back and tell you the results
[11:19] <Spee_Der> Ok.
[11:21] <Bnirkow> Spee_Der: i have installed ubuntu 6.10 alternate version. and in boot sequence it stops on "running /scripts/init ... "
[11:21] <Cyrus25801> does anyone know how to disable the showing of who logs in and out on irc in the main window. I'm using gaim Internet messenger
[11:21] <Bnirkow> Spee_Der: and when i add to kernel: "acpi=off" i see "Kernel in panic
[11:22] <Spee_Der> Bnirkow, sorry. Not my department, but keep asking and watching.....   Someone will help you I'm sure. Just be patient.
[11:22] <Feengur> well fokus, i got the driver installed, and everything seems to be reporting correctly
[11:22] <Feengur> but i'm locked at 800x600 res
[11:22] <Feengur> and my bit depth is locked at 24
[11:22] <frogzoo> !fixres | Feengur
[11:22] <ubotu> Feengur: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:22] <Bnirkow> does anyone have "Kernel in Panic" ???
[11:22] <Feengur> ahhh
[11:22] <Cyrus25801> does anyone know how to disable the showing of who logs in and out on irc in the main window. I'm using gaim Internet messenger
[11:24] <Spee_Der> Cyrus25801, hang on and I'll bring up my Gaim and see where the setting is....
[11:24] <Spee_Der> wb Seveas.
[11:25] <Cyrus25801> Spee_Der: thank you
[11:25] <beniamino> is there a list somewhere of packages that are in the canonical commerical repo? am struggling to google it
[11:26] <sc4ttrbrain> anyone help me please,  is this https://www.muzaki.org:81/  accessable ornot?and whats the output?
[11:26] <Cyrus25801> Spee_Der: what irc prog do you use
[11:26] <fokuslee> has anyone heard of shake 0.28?
[11:26] <Spee_Der> Ok, up on Gaim.
[11:26] <Spee_Der> Leseee.
[11:27] <owh> sc4ttrbrain: No, it is not accessible.
[11:27] <DARKGuy> sc4ttrbrain: says the certificate has an invalid signature (firefox)
[11:27] <sc4ttrbrain> owh, what does it say?
[11:27] <sc4ttrbrain> oh thanks
[11:27] <sc4ttrbrain> and what does this certivicate problem mean?
[11:28] <owh> sc4ttrbrain: Could not establish an encrypted connection because certificate presented by www.muzaki.org has an invalid signature.
[11:28] <Spee_Der> Cyrus25801, I am in Gaim now and looking.....
[11:28] <owh> sc4ttrbrain: That's the exact error...
[11:28] <Cyrus25801> Spee_Der: thanx
[11:28] <sc4ttrbrain> yeah, and how to solve this certificate error?
[11:29] <owh> sc4ttrbrain: I would use google and find out...
[11:30] <Otacon22> HI all , i have a laptop with a video card "Magic Corporation NM2200 [Magic Graph 256AV] ",  can i found 3d acceleration drivers?
[11:30] <Spee_Der> Cyrus, this may take a bit. It would be nice to disable it though.
[11:31] <Cyrus25801> Spee_Der: may be it would be easier to use another app
[11:31] <owh> Spee_Der: What are you trying to do?
[11:31] <Spee_Der> owh, in Gaim, stop showing the who enters and leaves.
[11:31] <owh> Spee_Der: ROTFL. There used to be an option, then it vanished. If you find out, let me know :-)
[11:31] <Bnirkow> hello again
[11:31] <Spee_Der> owh, Cyrus25801 is looking for that information.
[11:32] <Spee_Der> LOLOL
[11:32] <Spee_Der> Really.
[11:32] <Spee_Der> Hi Bn
[11:32] <owh> Spee_Der: Yeah, I lost it after an upgrade several years ago now.
[11:32] <Cyrus25801> Spee_Der: what app r u using
[11:32] <Cyrus25801> is there a better irc app
[11:32] <Spee_Der> I use many really, prefer using Opera with IRC built in.....
[11:32] <DARKGuy> Actually...
[11:33] <Spee_Der> Yes. XCHAT is pretty cool.
[11:33] <Bnirkow> how to run ubuntu in text mode??
[11:33] <DARKGuy> ignoring join/part stuff it's done in the actual irc session config (I think?)
[11:33] <Cyrus25801> Spee_der: do you know how to to disable it in those 2 apps
[11:33] <DARKGuy> Like, /ignore <something goes here>
[11:34] <Spee_Der> brb, closing Gaim and restarting Xchat.
[11:34] <TtyS2> how do u make a list in xchat for channels u uses
[11:34] <Spee_Der> back
[11:34] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: try "/ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS" ?
[11:35] <owh> No such command.
[11:35] <DARKGuy> ow
[11:35] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: how to update ubuntu kernel without booting it??
[11:35] <TtyS2> notify list for users i know where to find but not where to place channels i visits regurarly
[11:35] <Spee_Der> Ok, I'm back using Xchat.
[11:35] <Cyrus25801> DARKGuy: sorry didn't work
[11:35] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: o.o I have no idea, I've never updated my kernel since it always installs 2.6.17 :/
[11:35] <Spee_Der> This I like except for the default loud white background color, grrrrrrr
[11:36] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: Aw, sorry :/
[11:36] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: 2.6.17 don`t like`s me :/
[11:36] <Ubuntu_on_fire> im back
[11:36] <Cyrus25801> Spee_Der: can you disable it there
[11:36] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: stop everytime i boot ubuntu
[11:36] <Spee_Der> Ummm, lemme see.....
[11:36] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: try to install another linux-image ? you can boot then and the new linux kernel shall be added in the grub list
[11:36] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: but how?
[11:36] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: I dunno if that's what you're looking for :P
[11:37] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: sudo apt-get install linux-image
[11:37] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: press tab twice, a list should come
[11:37] <Ubuntu_on_fire> it says
[11:37] <Ubuntu_on_fire> home@Home:~$ ping 125.238.113.36
[11:37] <Ubuntu_on_fire> PING 125.238.113.36 (125.238.113.36) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:37] <Ubuntu_on_fire> 64 bytes from 125.238.113.36: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=2.76 ms
[11:37] <Ubuntu_on_fire> 64 bytes from 125.238.113.36: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=2.71 ms
[11:37] <Ubuntu_on_fire> 64 bytes from 125.238.113.36: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=6.40
[11:37] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: but i can`t boot my os
[11:37] <fokuslee> im trying to compile a program it doesn't work can someone help me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2043439#post2043439
[11:37] <Ubuntu_on_fire> but when i go to the firefox browser i can connect to anything
[11:37] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: Right
[11:37] <Spee_Der> Cyrus25801, I don't see an option in preferences for that, but still looking.
[11:37] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: Do you have the LiveCD around?
[11:38] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: i have one
[11:38] <Cyrus25801> Spee_Der: thanx
[11:38] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: the Ubuntu one you used to install it?
[11:38] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: i have ubuntu installed from alternate CD (6.10)
[11:38] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: fresh and clean
[11:39] <Cyrus25801> what is the major diffrence between 6.06 and 6.10
[11:39] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: Okay. Anybody here good with chroot? I don't know how to do a chroot, but if someone could guide Bnirkow to do a chroot and install another linux-image it would be nice :)
[11:39] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ???
[11:39] <Ubuntu_on_fire> hello?
[11:40] <daya> kwin: cannot connect to X server
[11:40] <daya> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
[11:40] <daya> any idea about this kde error
[11:40] <TtyS2> Spee_Der: how do u make a list in xchat for channels u uses often
[11:40] <christopherl> I want to view a webpage rss news from last 12 months, but my rss reader only shows me last month news, someone know any solution?
[11:40] <Lynoure> christopherl: does the rss even contain more?
[11:41] <gb_> hi guys
[11:41] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: hmm.. maybe You know.. can i change kernel.. but copy it from another livecd ??
[11:41] <christopherl> Lynoure: what do u mean?
[11:41] <Lynoure> christopherl: you can look at it in plain text to make sure of that
[11:41] <gb_> finally got ntfs-3g working, yay
[11:41] <owh> Spee_Der: It was removed in v0.78: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog :	* Removed "Show people joining in window", default to yes
[11:41] <Lynoure> christopherl: Often rss feeds are from limited time.
[11:41] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: *maybe*. I've never tried it o.o
[11:41] <daya> christopherl, i have small errror while starting kde
[11:41] <Spee_Der> Hmmm
[11:41] <slowz> Ubuntu_on_fire,  what does cat /etc/resolv.conf   show ?
[11:41] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: risky ;] 
[11:41] <gb_> adious__:  dont think you cna do that
[11:41] <daya> christopherl, kwin: cannot connect to X server
[11:41] <Spee_Der> Well dang. lol
[11:41] <daya> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
[11:41] <owh> Spee_Der: That was on 30'th of May, 2004 :-)
[11:42] <Ubuntu_on_fire> er...
[11:42] <daya> christopherl, any idea?
[11:42] <Ubuntu_on_fire> idk i didnt chack
[11:42] <owh> Spee_Der: See, nothing wrong with my memory :)
[11:42] <Ubuntu_on_fire> check
[11:42] <Spee_Der> owh, thanks.
[11:42] <owh> Spee_Der: I'm going to have a squiz in gconf.
[11:42] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i dont wanna reboot now
[11:42] <gb_> Ubuntu_on_fire:  nice id
[11:42] <gb_> :)
[11:42] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: Heh, yeah :P I guess you could copy the initrd and vmlinuz files from your livecd to the /boot dir, then edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the new kernel there o.o
[11:42] <Spee_Der> owh, well at least I got the silly background color changed thanks to you and Cyrus !
[11:42] <jin> even with 2gb of ram with azureus running, my pc is a bit slow :(
[11:42] <Ubuntu_on_fire> lol
[11:42] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: but, I wouldn't know how Linux would react to that random kernel addition
[11:43] <daya> raphael, hi
[11:43] <Ubuntu_on_fire> its cuz if the window burn efect
[11:43] <gb_> if u play with kernel, u will get major upset :p
[11:43] <daya> raphael, i am kde problem any idea?
[11:43] <Xerroz> how do you make a package?
[11:43] <daya> raphael, kwin: cannot connect to X server
[11:43] <daya> kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
[11:43] <DARKGuy> gb_: heh, so right xD but then again, you know how to chroot? :P
[11:43] <owh> Spee_Der: I'm going to have a look in the source, because it says that the preference has been set to default to "show".
[11:43] <gb_> DARKGuy:  whats chroot ;)
[11:43] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: hmm, i have Kurumin liveCD, and it works on my copmuter (Kernel is 2.6.18-slh-2 or something like that)
[11:43] <Xerroz> daya: is your xserver runing? :) try DISPLAY=:0 kwin
[11:44] <Spee_Der> owh, cool.
[11:44] <DARKGuy> gb_: xD changes the root to another drive (I think it does that o.o)
[11:44] <DARKGuy> or path
[11:44] <daya> Xerroz, i am running gnome successfully
[11:44] <jin> Mem:          2027       1975         51          0          5       1674
[11:44] <jin> 1674MB as cache
[11:44] <gb_> DARKGuy:  yep i know , i was kidding :)
[11:44] <Spee_Der> owh, I wonder also, if calling the program you can attach it on the command line ? Hmmmmm
[11:44] <jin> bad?
[11:44] <DARKGuy> gb_: thought so XD
[11:44] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: i try, see ya later, maybe on ubuntu :D
[11:45] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: waaaait
[11:45] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: i`m still :)
[11:45] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: k, cool xD
[11:45] <gb_> DARKGuy:  i had problem with ntfs-3g here
[11:45] <gb_> now it is working :D
[11:45] <Bnirkow> DARKGuy: wait for.. ? :)
[11:45] <Xerroz> daya: are you attempting to start KDE after you have loaded gnome?
[11:45] <DARKGuy> gb_: could you please guide (if you can) Bnirkow to chroot from a LiveCD and do a sudo apt-get install linux-image for a new kernel so he can boot?
[11:45] <daya> Xerroz, no no , the kde don't start so i have switch to it.
[11:46] <DARKGuy> gb_: cool ^_^
[11:46] <gb_> DARKGuy:  sure y not
[11:46] <DARKGuy> gb_: thanks ^^
[11:46] <gb_> yw
[11:46] <gb_> Bnirkow:  hello dood u there?
[11:46] <Bnirkow> gb_: i`m
[11:46] <Xerroz> daya: interesting, and you get a cannot connect to x server error?
[11:46] <christopherl> is there any rss reader to gnome that have archiving function, so you can save all news
[11:46] <gb_> ok is live cd loaded?
[11:47] <Xerroz> daya: sounds like maybe kde is trying to startup before X is ready
[11:47] <Bnirkow> gb_: wait moment, i will boot my knoppix
[11:47] <daya> Xerroz, yes
[11:47] <gb_> knoppix ?
[11:47] <gb_> umm
[11:47] <Bnirkow> gb_: liveCD
[11:47] <ernz> This is probably going to make me look really stupid, but I recently reconfigured my xorg to include the 2048x1024 option, and now the caps lock key doesn't work. Can someone please advise?
[11:47] <gb_> y not ubuntu live cd for ubuntu os :)
[11:47] <daya> Xerroz, how can i overcome this problem , please help me
[11:47] <gb_> ernz:  edit it back
[11:48] <Bnirkow> gb_: heh, this ubuntu live (6.10) does not boot on my comp
[11:48] <ernz> gb_ Dunno what I did :)
[11:48] <Xerroz> try adding 'startkde' to ~/.xinitrc
[11:48] <gb_> ernz:  localtion is /etc/X11
[11:48] <Bnirkow> gb_: same problem, when i boot from installed alternate cd 6.10
[11:48] <gb_> ernz:  know how to in vi?
[11:48] <Bnirkow> gb_: stops on ACPI scripts
[11:48] <ernz> gb_ gedit* - Sort of.
[11:48] <gb_> Bnirkow:  is boot from cdrom enabled?
[11:49] <Bnirkow> gb_: yes, but don`t work for me
[11:49] <christopherl> how can I fetch old rss news from a webpage?
[11:49] <gb_> ernz: nah gedit is X apps, talking bout vi
[11:49] <gb_> console editor
[11:49] <daya> Xerroz, i am not getting this file
[11:49] <daya> Xerroz, do i have to cerate it.
[11:49] <ernz> gb_ - Why can't I edit it in X, and then reboot X?
[11:49] <gb_> Bnirkow:  did u perform a md5sum chk before burning iso?
[11:50] <Xerroz> daya: certainly, it may help
[11:50] <DARKGuy> aw man
[11:50] <Bnirkow> gb_: yes, and on my brother computer works normal
[11:50] <gb_> ernz:  u can go for it , if x should not have issue, y should i :)
[11:50] <gb_> ernz: cause X always gives issues wheather x on linux or x -gf's :(
[11:50] <gb_> grr
[11:50] <ernz> gb_: Fairy muff :) - Why doesn't sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg bring up the file?
[11:50] <gb_> Bnirkow:  ok kool
[11:51] <daya> Xerroz, ok i will do it.
[11:51] <gb_> ernz:  cause file name is xorg.conf
[11:51] <ernz> gb_ - That'll be why.
[11:51] <daya> Xerroz, i logout for check and i will be in touch with you,
[11:52] <Bnirkow> gb_: on my comp, not
[11:52] <Xerroz> anyone know why kdevelop is not in the repositories?
[11:52] <gb_> Bnirkow:  strange
[11:53] <gb_> Xerroz:  cause k did not devolp yet?
[11:53] <gb_> Xerroz:  sorry bad joke
[11:53] <gb_> :)
[11:53] <Xerroz> indeed
[11:53] <Bnirkow> gb_: when i trying to add "acpi=off" i see error "Kernel in Panic" and stops
[11:53] <gb_> <<sunday mood
[11:54] <Xerroz> ^_^
[11:54] <Bnirkow> gb_: in this moment i want to try change kernel
[11:54] <DARKGuy> :D
[11:54] <gb_> Bnirkow:  no idea bout acpi sorry :(
[11:54] <DARKGuy> gb_: but he can chroot from his knoppix CD and (because he chrooted) do apt-get ?
[11:54] <gb_> he can chroot
[11:54] <jin> when using gnome, isn't there a way to asign a shortcut key to switch to the next virtual desktop?
[11:54] <gb_> dont think can apt-get
[11:55] <Bnirkow> gb_: i will try to pick kernel from another livecd :> risky, but i can try :)
[11:55] <gb_> jin: ctrl+alt|+ righr arrow key
[11:55] <gb_> i think
[11:55] <gb_> Bnirkow:  good luck dood :)
[11:55] <jin> gb_, are u asuming I'm using xgl?
[11:55] <DARKGuy> Bnirkow: Yeah, good luck, can't lose anything :p
[11:55] <gb_> jin:  nope
[11:55] <Bnirkow> gb_: i will tell You when it works :P
[11:56] <gb_> Bnirkow:  lol, good luck mate
[11:56] <gb_> still say , dont piss of the kernel :)
[11:56] <DARKGuy> xD
[11:56] <ernz> gb_ - That's it sorted, cheers. Turns I was using "uk" when I should have been using "gb" - WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?!
[11:57] <DARKGuy> two letters :P
[11:57] <gb_> gb = great britan
[11:57] <Geo8339> hello. can anybody tell me what's the status of XGL under ubuntu?
[11:57] <gb_> UK is country code
[11:57] <Cyrus25801> Darkguy: you gave me a command just now can you give it 2 me again
[11:57] <ernz> gb_ UK/GB same thing?
[11:57] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: try "/ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS" ?
[11:57] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: there xD
[11:57] <slowz> i built 2.6.19 last night, with the downfall of making xorg use 40% of CPU ... so im back to 2.6.15 :(
[11:57] <gb_> same country yes, in computing termsn even caps locks are different :)
[11:57] <daya> Xerroz, it doesn't solve the problem
[11:58] <zeembo> could someone please help me mount my slave hd? i have no idea what to do
[11:58] <Xerroz> daya, im not sure, perhaps try #kde
[11:58] <ernz> gb_ - Who would have thunk it? - Fixed now anyways so cheers.
[11:58] <CactusWiZaRd> what's the problem, when i can't change screen resolution from 640x480 to 1024x768? driver is Matrox Millenium G450
[11:58] <gb_> ernz:  good luck
[11:58] <gb_> ernz:  have fun
[11:58] <Cyrus25801> DARKGuy: what do you mean there xD
[11:59] <gb_> zeembo:  whats up?
[11:59] <daya> Xerroz, any way thanks, i have tried it earlier but then just give in pebkac error
[11:59] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: that, there is the command I told you before :P
[11:59] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: try "/ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS" ?
[11:59] <zeembo> gb_: i formatted a brand new drive with qtparted
[11:59] <zeembo> and now i'm trying to mount it so i can access it
[11:59] <Cyrus25801> i did it tells me unknown
[11:59] <gb_> zeembo:  ok good
[12:00] <gb_> zeembo:  alright, open terminal
[12:00] <zeembo> i tried sudo mount /dev/hdd
[12:00] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: then it doesn't work in GAIM :/ sorry, I use IRSSI :(
[12:00] <kNo`> hi all
[12:00] <CactusWiZaRd> hi
[12:00] <gb_> zeembo:  did u open?
[12:00] <someothernick> hi
[12:00] <zeembo> open?
[12:00] <kNo`> did anyone heard about ubuntu-eu.org?
[12:00] <gb_> open konsole/terminal dood
[12:00] <CactusWiZaRd> w00t
[12:00] <Cyrus25801> DARKGuy,  im using Xchat now
[12:01] <CactusWiZaRd> kNo`: no
[12:01] <zeembo> gb_: yeah i opened the terminal
[12:01] <kNo`> I've been subscribed to a ML coming from ubuntu-eu, without any warning or explanation
[12:01] <gb_> zeembo:  now type these commands
[12:01] <gb_> zeembo:  sudo mkdir /media/slave
[12:01] <gb_> zeembo:  sudo mount /dev/hda?  /media/slave
[12:02] <gb_> zeembo:  replace ? with number u got there
[12:02] <Bnirkow> gb_: can You help me? where is kernel image?? :) ... newbie ;p
[12:02] <CactusWiZaRd> !ubotu drivers
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <gb_> Bnirkow:  /boot
[12:02] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: well, no idea with XChat, google doesn't come up with anything either. Did you check the options ?
[12:03] <Cyrus25801> DARKGuy, yes i did.nothing there
[12:03] <Cyrus25801> DARKGuy, it's not the end of the world. thanx for the help
[12:03] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: welcome :(
[12:03] <owh> DARKGuy, Spee_Der, Cyrus25801, I'm looking at the source. They did remove it. I'm playing with prefs.
[12:03] <owh> I'm just going to stop and start gaim.
[12:04] <DARKGuy> owh: thought so :/ there is an old patch for ignoring that in google, but it dates back to 2001
[12:04] <ubuntu> hola
[12:04] <zeembo> gb_: it keeps saying special device does not exist
[12:04] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i change my screen's resolution from 640x480 to 1024x768 when Screen resolution says, that 640x480 is only available
[12:04] <DARKGuy> ubuntu: hola, para hablar espaol se puede usar #ubuntu-es ^^;
[12:04] <owh> Hmm, close, but no cigar.
[12:04] <Cyrus25801> owh, thanx
[12:04] <owh> I did find this:
[12:04] <gb_> zeembo:  did u chk the number, if u got that right
[12:04] <zeembo> gb_: my device shows as /dev/hdd-1 in qtparted.  thats what i'm using
[12:05] <gb_> zeembo:  try sudo fdisk -l
[12:05] <owh> http://gaim-extprefs.sourceforge.net/ep.shtml
[12:05] <DARKGuy> CactusWiZaRd: try editing your xorg.conf file by typing "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:05] <owh> Also, there is reference to the setting still in the code.
[12:05] <ubuntu> gracias
[12:05] <zeembo> gb_: yeah, its /dev/hdd
[12:05] <owh> I'm just trying to figure out where to put the preference.
[12:06] <DARKGuy> CactusWiZaRd: go to the end of the file, where it says "Modes" and a list, leave only 1024x768 there
[12:06] <zeembo> gb_: sudo mount /dev/hdd/ /media/slave <-- is that correct?
[12:06] <ernz> Anyone know how to remove the additional floppy drive that shows up in Edgy release?
[12:06] <gb_> ok zeembo  now u need a format it using qtparted
[12:06] <Bnirkow> gb_ : when i use "cp" can i use "*" to copy files??
[12:06] <gb_> zeembo:  use qtparted to format it to ext3 file system or whichever u want
[12:07] <zeembo> do i format it as primary and set active?
[12:07] <Bnirkow> gb_ : eg: cp *18* /boot ...
[12:07] <gb_> Bnirkow:  it will replace all fiel
[12:07] <jin> how do I disable cpu frequency scaling?
[12:07] <gb_> can be risky
[12:07] <gb_> file*
[12:07] <zeembo> gb_: should i format the drive as primary and set as active?
[12:07] <Bnirkow> gb_ : this will not take any files witch "18" ??
[12:08] <gb_> Bnirkow:  it will replace it :)
[12:08] <Bnirkow> gb_ : ehh :)
[12:08] <gb_> zeembo: just format it :)
[12:09] <owh> Man this code is obtuse.
[12:09] <Cyrus25801> lol
[12:09] <zeembo> gb_: ok i formatted it
[12:10] <gb_> using ext3?
[12:11] <gb_> zeembo:  do a fdisk -l again plz
[12:11] <gb_> see it there now?
[12:11] <zeembo> gb_:ok i'll do it right now
[12:11] <Bnirkow> gb_ : with what command i can search to find initrd.img ?? im menu.lst i see what file can be used, but i can find it
[12:12] <gb_> Bnirkow:  mate it is is boot folder
[12:12] <Bnirkow> gb_ : does not exist
[12:12] <zeembo> gb_: i see it now
[12:12] <gb_> the /boot folder?
[12:12] <Bnirkow> gb_ : initrd.img file
[12:12] <abo> hi, I need help with the convert / find command (I've been reading and trying different syntax but couldn't get this working) basically I need to create a smaller image of all jpgs in a folder I'm using the follwoing: find . -name "*.jpg" -size +399k -exec convert -sample 55%x55% '{}' small-'{}' \;
[12:12] <gb_> Bnirkow:  it is  /boot folder
[12:12] <gb_> Bnirkow:  chk again
[12:12] <gb_> Bnirkow:  different OS :)
[12:12] <gb_> zeembo:  kool , good luck :)
[12:13] <Bnirkow> i see list of files in console
[12:13] <zeembo> gb_:  nonono
[12:13] <zeembo> gb_: help!
[12:13] <owh> BRB
[12:13] <gb_> zeembo:  ok
[12:13] <zeembo> gb_:  i want to mount it on the desktop
[12:13] <gb_> zeembo:  try mounting it now
[12:13] <gb_> zeembo:  use the mount command
[12:13] <gb_> Bnirkow: u got dual boot?
[12:14] <Bnirkow> gb_ : don`t know
[12:14] <zeembo> gb_:  it says u must specify the file system type
[12:14] <zeembo> gb_: i typed : sudo mount /dev/hdd /media/slave
[12:14] <owh> Spee_Der: Heh, it had to be you joining to prove that it didn't work :)
[12:14] <gb_> zeembo:  which type of file system did u format with?
[12:14] <owh> BRB again
[12:14] <zeembo> ext3
[12:14] <gb_> zeembo:  fat32 or ext3?
[12:14] <Bnirkow> hmm
[12:14] <Jobra> hello
[12:14] <zeembo> gb_:ext3
[12:15] <gb_> ok type sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd /media/slave
[12:15] <Bnirkow> gb_: what device in /dev is cdrom?
[12:15] <gb_> the /dev id devices
[12:15] <Bnirkow> gb_: ... i see ;p
[12:15] <gb_> it cna be anything
[12:15] <owh> Hmm, still no good.
[12:15] <gb_> hdd, cdrom
[12:16] <jin> hi, any other bt client with a gui other than azureus?
[12:16] <gb_> Bnirkow:  try some other ubuntu cd mate
[12:16] <gb_> jin:  ktorrent
[12:16] <owh> Ok, from what I can make out, the preference still exists. It seems to have been removed from the UI and there seems to be code that exists in a plug-in that allows you to reactivate the missing preferences. The plugin is the URL I showed earlier.
[12:16] <gb_> jin:  sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[12:17] <jin> but I'm using gnome
[12:17] <gb_> jin:  go for it
[12:17] <owh> I'll have a play later.
[12:17] <gb_> it will work
[12:17] <Bnirkow> gb_: ... this is not problem to delete or format partitions :> and replace grub
[12:17] <Bnirkow> :)
[12:17] <owh> Spee_Der: Did you get that?
[12:17] <jin> I hope it is light as utorrent on win
[12:17] <Cyrus25801> cool thanx
[12:17] <jin> :|
[12:17] <gb_> Bnirkow:  formatting is fun :)
[12:17] <owh> Cyrus25801: I couldn't recall your nick :0)
[12:17] <gb_> fdisk is party time ;)
[12:17] <Cyrus25801> it's fine
[12:18] <gb_> kernel , == nigthmare :)
[12:18] <Cyrus25801> owh, thanx for your trouble
[12:18] <owh> Pleasure.
[12:18] <Cyrus25801> owh, cheers
[12:19] <gb_> zeembo:  dood?
[12:19] <gb_> zeembo:  did it work?
[12:19] <linux756> right now i am in the process of setting up ubuntu and windows as a dual boot. my plan, windows and ubuntu on my 80g, split down the middle. format my 200g as fat32, and use it for data on both sides, will that work. i was also wondering, if i use the fat32 in windows, won't it get fragmented. if it does, will it hurt if i defrag it (meaning will it confuse linux?)
[12:20] <gb_> linux756:  no worries, go for it,
[12:20] <martyvis> abo: the problem you have is the {} will have a leading ./ that can't be used with small-{}
[12:20] <gb_> linux756:  just make sure u install windows first :)
[12:20] <linux756> ah, spent 3 hours trying that last night, already done. took THREE installs just to get it to work
[12:20] <abo> martyvis, is there a way around this?
[12:21] <anilprasad> sree ramulu
[12:21] <gb_> linux756:  new ubutnu works with ntfs too ;)
[12:21] <linux756> new ubuntu?
[12:21] <linux756> 6.10?
[12:21] <Bnirkow> what commend is to search files by console??
[12:21] <gb_> yes
[12:21] <gb_> :D
[12:21] <Bnirkow> command*
[12:21] <gb_> Bnirkow:  find
[12:21] <Bnirkow> ok
[12:21] <linux756> without installing some sort of other crap?
[12:21] <abo> linux756, basically it doesn't matter which ubuntu as long as you install the driver
[12:21] <martyvis> find . -name "*.jpg" -size +399k -exec convert -sample 55%x55% '{}'  '{}'-small.jpg \;
[12:21] <linux756> what driver?
[12:21] <anilprasad> linux 756: we can write files into ntfs drives also
[12:21] <gb_> linux756:  u will need ntfs-3g tool :)
[12:21] <martyvis> works but is ugly
[12:21] <linux756> does it work good?
[12:22] <oFF-beAt> Linuturk, ntfs-3g.. n a patch of pmount
[12:22] <gb_> linux756:  apt-get install ntfs-3g
[12:22] <martyvis> you are best off passing the name found to a shell script and stripping off the leading ./
[12:22] <linux756> lol, right now im in windows
[12:22] <anilprasad> installed ntfs-3g
[12:22] <linux756> thanks, i might try that in a few hours
[12:22] <anilprasad> but dont know how it works
[12:22] <gb_> linuxguy:  good luck, yw
[12:23] <gb_> anil there is a thing called man ntfs-3g
[12:23] <gb_> try that
[12:23] <owh> You are going to hate me. Cyrus25801, Spee_Der and DARKGuy: sudo apt-get install gaim-extendedprefs
[12:23] <Cyrus25801> owh: then what
[12:24] <gb_> DARKGuy: u there?
[12:24] <DARKGuy> gb_: yes
[12:24] <anilprasad> gb i already installed ntfs-3g as a binary
[12:24] <owh> Select Tools -> PlugIns -> Activate Extended Preferences -> Click Configure -> Tick the box.
[12:24] <zeembo> gb_:  GOT IT!  thanks a lot!
[12:24] <gb_> DARKGuy: 1 bad joke/? can i ask :)
[12:24] <gb_> zeembo:  ok , np
[12:24] <anilprasad> but dont know how can i interact a drive with read write mode
[12:24] <zeembo> gb_: is there a way to automount it?
[12:24] <DARKGuy> gb_: XD yeah
[12:24] <gb_> zeembo:  add it to /etc/fstab
[12:24] <zeembo> gb_: or is it going to mount every time now?
[12:25] <gb_> DARKGuy:  y always man this man that, women dont know anything?
[12:25] <zeembo> gb_:  what do i add to the file?  i opened it and didn't really understand
[12:25] <owh> Cyrus25801: Thanks for asking. Now I solved a problem for you that I was dealing with since 2004 :-)
[12:25] <Cyrus25801> owh, cool thanx man
[12:25] <padee> hi all. does anyone have an idea, why my ventilation is running non-stop with cpu usage of 3% ?
[12:25] <DARKGuy> gb_: Haha, must be 'cause of dialect, soricety, whoknows xD
[12:25] <gb_> DARKGuy:  sorry had to get it out of my system, though that was funny
[12:25] <owh> Cyrus25801: NP.
[12:26] <DARKGuy> gb_: *society, heh
[12:26] <gb_> lol
[12:26] <gb_> zeembo:  is fstab open?
[12:27] <gb_> ok anyways
[12:27] <gb_> i'm out
[12:27] <gb_> pleasure talking to u DARKGuy
[12:27] <zeembo> gb_: yes i just opened fstab
[12:28] <gb_> tc mate , have a great day/nite
[12:28] <DARKGuy> gb_: same xD
[12:28] <faceface> R program for statistical computing?
[12:28] <gb_> zeembo:  in end type >> /dev/hdd /media/slave   ext3 defaults 0  0
[12:28] <faceface> how can I 'apt get' it?
[12:29] <RingDonut> Hello everybody!
[12:29] <faceface> hello RingDonut
[12:29] <RingDonut> Hello faceface
[12:29] <gb_> zeembo:  save changes, reboot
[12:29] <Cyrus25801> owh: there aren't any plugings and i did run the command
[12:29] <gb_> anyways laters
[12:29] <faceface> is 'the R program for statistical computing' on the ubuntu repo?
[12:29] <owh> Cyrus25801: You need to restart gaim :-)
[12:29] <faceface> like 'apt-get install R' -- except that dosn't work
[12:30] <Cyrus25801> i was using xchat when i ran the comand and i did restart it twice
[12:30] <faceface> also my network monitor appears to broke
[12:30] <owh> Cyrus25801: And you have no plugins at all>
[12:30] <hbaigu> faceface: r-base
[12:30] <Cyrus25801> no
[12:30] <RingDonut> !lfs
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <faceface> thanks hbaigu
[12:30] <Cyrus25801> owh: maybe i did something wrong
[12:30] <owh> Cyrus25801: Not that much that you can do wrong that I can think of.
[12:31] <RingDonut> Ask away!
[12:31] <faceface> hbaigu, that is working :D
[12:31] <faceface> the network keeps flaking out though...
[12:31] <Cyrus25801> owh: i ran this command -> sudo apt-get install gaim-extendedprefs
[12:31] <owh> Cyrus25801: Hmm.
[12:31] <RingDonut> faceface: maybe because of the weather lately?
[12:31] <faceface> RingDonut, Don't know
[12:31] <Cyrus25801> owh: maybe restart pc??
[12:32] <owh> Cyrus25801: No, that's a Windows solution.
[12:32] <faceface> RingDonut, I went to some cafe offering 'wifi!!!' - you go inside and its like ... "what?"
[12:32] <owh> Cyrus25801: Run this command: dpkg -l gaim*
[12:32] <jin> owh, haha, nice one ;)
[12:32] <RingDonut> faceface: My network has been dieing randomly lately. Do you use a router?
[12:32] <owh> jin: Huh?
[12:33] <jin> owh, @win solution
[12:33] <jin> ;)
[12:33] <Cyrus25801> owh: brb
[12:33] <owh> Oh :0)
[12:33] <faceface> hbaigu, is the emacs ess in the repo?
[12:33] <faceface> is it part of r-base?
[12:33] <jin> damn java
[12:34] <jin> slowing down my system
[12:34] <owh> faceface: To find out, type apt-cache search {something}
[12:34] <faceface> owh - dang... that is what I didn't want to do ;)
[12:34] <owh> jin: No, likely it's a poorly written Java App. There's many of those.
[12:35] <hbaigu> faceface: what is ess?
[12:35] <faceface> apt-cache search ess ... 1,000,000 results
[12:35] <Cyrus25801> owh: my plugin's dont show under tools but under prefrences
[12:35] <faceface> emacs speaks statistics - an emacs 'plugin' for R
[12:35] <owh> Cyrus25801: Different version :-)
[12:35] <faceface> not essential
[12:35] <Cyrus25801> owh: just waiting to see if what i changed has made a diffrence
[12:36] <owh> faceface: You can do apt-cache search emacs ess and you will find that there is a package :)
[12:36] <padee> quit
[12:36] <owh> Cyrus25801: I haven't seen any joins :-)
[12:36] <owh> padee: ROTFL
[12:36] <padee> damn it
[12:36] <faceface> owh thanks ... but I still get tons of results... me searches *bye eye* !!!
[12:36] <Cyrus25801> owh: i xchat, you can just press the up button and it will show the previous line you entered canyou do it in gaim(maybe another key)
[12:37] <padee> using irc the second time and i have no idea how to log off
[12:37] <owh> faceface: Hint: it's called ess.
[12:37] <faceface> not essential
[12:37] <Cyrus25801> owh: havent seen any joins either. Thanx man
[12:37] <owh> padee: /quit
[12:37] <padee> ah
[12:37] <padee> owh: tnx
[12:37] <owh> P
[12:37] <faceface> apt-get install ess :DDD
[12:37] <owh> ROTFL
[12:37] <someothernick> lol
[12:38] <padee> owh: may i put a question?
[12:38] <Cyrus25801> owh: i xchat, you can just press the up button and it will show the previous line you entered canyou do it in gaim(maybe another key) :)
[12:38] <owh> padee: You may indeed :-)
[12:38] <owh> Cyrus25801: Dunno. Google is your friend :0)
[12:38] <faceface> apt-get install ess :DDD
[12:38] <padee> why is my ventilation running when my cpu usage is only 2.3% ?
[12:38] <Cyrus25801> owh: k, thanx
[12:39] <RingDonut> padee: hire a chimney sweep
[12:39] <padee> ringdonut: what the *** is a chimney sweep???
[12:39] <owh> padee: Likely because you have either a delay, activity that you're not aware of, a hot environment, a CPU that just worked hard and is now not, a faulty CPU, a kernel bug, or any number of other things.
[12:39] <someothernick> i think that depends on temp not usage
[12:40] <owh> It does.
[12:40] <someothernick> also depends on bios settings
[12:40] <owh> Often that too.
[12:40] <Xerroz> where are all the feisty repositories?
[12:40] <owh> It's amazing how much text fits on the screen without joins and parts :-)
[12:41] <Cyrus25801> owh, tell me about it
[12:41] <Cyrus25801> :-D
[12:41] <padee> owh: and how can i figure out, what it is? environment is 22, the cpu did not work hard ( i wouldnt know why)
[12:41] <DARKGuy> Crysis left me breathless :o
[12:41] <faceface> thanks dudes
[12:41] <faceface> so long
[12:41] <owh> padee: I would search Google first.
[12:41] <Cyrus25801> DARKGuy: what happened
[12:41] <padee> owh: i did that already...
[12:42] <padee> owh: couldnt find someting related to my notebook
[12:42] <DARKGuy> Cyrus25801: look some videos of crysis on youtube, that thing is like, omg o.o; *shrugs*
[12:42] <owh> padee: Well, I've got a toothache and a headache, so I'm outta here.
[12:42] <padee> great
[12:44] <christopherl> hello all, does anybody know if there are some rss reader that supports to search for old news? ex. last years news.
[12:44] <ExxKA> christopherl, the feeds doesn't support it..
[12:44] <ExxKA> christopherl, well, most likely they don't..
[12:48] <slowz> christopherl,  that would be up to the site hosting the rss feed not the client your using
[12:49] <slowz> i would think any way :)
[12:53] <amorphous_> hello everybody. I'm looking at buying caddies to save me losing so much data with my constant swapping of drives etc, and I'm wondering if I have come up with a grand idea - or id it's pants and only good in my head... If I get a 5.25" usb caddy, and then an internal hdd caddy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-IDE-Harddrive-HDD-Caddy-Fan-Cooled_W0QQitemZ190073935674QQihZ009QQcategoryZ96894QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem could I slide t
[12:53] <amorphous_> he caddy into the caddy (so to speak) with no probs??? if so, that would give e close to hotplugged hdd, would it not?
[12:55] <naelphin> I'd like to change the mirror I use. i use the us, and would like to change to the HK one
[12:57] <RingDonut> http://pastebin.ca/323462
[12:57] <jrib> naelphin: just change all the "us" to "hk" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <Zyb> where can i get ubuntu.img.gz.002 and 003, it was deleted from st0rage.org
[01:00] <mwe> or remove us. all together to get directed to a good mirror
[01:00] <ramana> !azureus > sandy16
[01:01] <ramana> !azureus > sandy16
[01:01] <naelphin> so if i use archive.blah it'll be redirect to my best server?
[01:01] <sierleunam> hi. I've installed LAMP for doing some tests but i'm getting  "" symbols instead of "", "",...
[01:02] <sierleunam> using Edgy...
[01:02] <mwe> naelphin: yeah you should be. archive.ubuntu.com
[01:02] <Juice^> I have a fujifilm f30 camera.. and the usb device in this camera doesnt seem to be supported as default... any tips to get it mounted in the file manager and  for other apps?
[01:02] <sandy16> !azureus > abhinay
[01:02] <naelphin> i'm using the windows installer, seems to be working ok
[01:02] <Zyb> where can i get ubuntu.img.gz.002 and 003, it was deleted from st0rage.org
[01:03] <DARKGuy> oO!
[01:04] <mwe> Zyb: what is that? normally you download a .iso file
[01:04] <lynucs> hi
[01:04] <Zyb> i dont have cdr :@
[01:04] <Zyb> and need install from hd
[01:05] <mwe> Zyb: I see.
[01:05] <RingDonut> !omg
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about omg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <hbaigu> Zyb: you can install ubuntu from a iso without burning.
[01:05] <Zyb> how?
[01:06] <RingDonut> apt-get update?
[01:06] <weiyan_> ..
[01:06] <lynucs> Zyb: do you have ubuntu already installed?? i mean maybe an older version
[01:07] <mwe> hbaigu: how do you boot and iso file without burning it? you can mount it but that wont make it boot
[01:07] <Zyb> 'ya, i have breezy
[01:07] <mwe> Zyb: then just upgrade
[01:07] <mwe> !upgrade | Zyb
[01:07] <ubotu> Zyb: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:08] <Zyb> i want clean install
[01:08] <mwe> Zyb: why would you want that?
[01:08] <andcor> Hey, anyone knows howto make alsa run a command if nothing is playing music, and run a command just before it starts playing again ?
[01:09] <hbaigu> i am searching for the link
[01:09] <naelphin> i wonder if upgrading the kernel will blow up the windows installer :P
[01:10] <Zyb> i dont know yet how to set-up my vpn internet connection from ubuntu
[01:10] <naelphin> oh, is there a way of getting rid of the mouse cursor shadow and zoom effect?
[01:10] <naelphin> i hate it
[01:10] <andcor> Hey, anyone knows howto make alsa run a command if nothing is playing music, and run a command just before it starts playing again ?'
[01:11] <mwe> Zyb: I doubt making a clean install will fix it for you
[01:11] <mwe> Zyb: anyway you have a floppy drive but no cd drive?
[01:12] <Cpp_Linux> Hello.
[01:12] <mwe> Zyb: or what?
[01:12] <Zyb> i have fd
[01:12] <Cpp_Linux> I'm having a slight problem with ubuntu installation. Could I talk to someone to help me fix it?
[01:12] <mwe> Zyb: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[01:13] <hbaigu> Zyb: i found in french http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/sans_cd
[01:13] <andcor> Hey, anyone knows howto make alsa run a command if nothing is playing music, and run a command just before it starts playing again ?
[01:13] <Zyb> and im familiar with dos command line
[01:13] <mypapit> Cpp_Linux: what kind of problems?
[01:13] <mwe> Zyb: I'd still recommend try fixing your problem as I don't think reinstalling will
[01:14] <mwe> Zyb: please read the link I provided. it has a good explanation of how to do it
[01:14] <andcor> Hey, anyone knows howto make alsa run a command if nothing is playing music, and run a command just before it starts playing again ?
[01:14] <Zyb> ok mwe
[01:14] <AlexC_> andcor: Please wait,
[01:14] <mwe> Zyb: As I said I'd still recommend try fixing your problem as I don't think reinstalling will
[01:14] <AlexC_> andcor: you've waiting like 1-2 mins before asking the same question again. Give it like 10-20 mins
[01:14] <naelphin> for some reason ubuntu is using my PC speaker instead of my real ones :/
[01:15] <naelphin> sound settings doesn't specify which output to use
[01:15] <hypn0> hi, if I kill automatix when its downloading something, will it mess package managing up?
[01:15] <RingDonut> Can someone update the topic?
[01:15] <Zyb> is there ubuntu without that office stuff?
[01:16] <RingDonut> The bot is working again
[01:16] <RingDonut> !ubotu
[01:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:16] <Maxi`> hey guys
[01:16] <AlexC_> Zyb: server install lets you choose what packages to install. That or you could just uninstall open-office ?
[01:16] <mwe> Zyb: what do you mean
[01:16] <Maxi`> does anyone of you know where balsa (the email client) save downloaded mails?   There is no export function and I need to save all the mails from balsa since I set up my machine from new.
[01:16] <mwe> Zyb: you can add or remove programs to suite your needs
[01:18] <slowz> Maxi`,  I dont use balsa but, i would guess something like ~/.balsa
[01:19] <mwe> Maxi`: or ~/mail or ~/.mail or the mbox file
[01:19] <Maxi`> thx will have a look at
[01:19] <oxygene_> hi. i've got a reproducible xorg crash. is there an easy way to get an equivalent xorg-build with debugging symbols so that i could get a backtrace with more information than just some weird numbers?
[01:19] <SurfnKid> how can i display the total hard drive space on cli
[01:19] <Cpp_Linux> mypapit can you open a private comm to me?
[01:19] <oxygene_> SurfnKid, "df"
[01:20] <karmatronic> SurfnKid, df -k
[01:20] <SurfnKid> nice
[01:20] <SurfnKid> thx
[01:20] <DARKGuy> SurfnKid: df -h also brings a human-readable output :P
[01:20] <Maxi`> none of those directories hold my emails
[01:20] <SurfnKid> what would "du" do?
[01:20] <DARKGuy> SurfnKid: same thing, but shows the size of folders
[01:20] <SurfnKid> DARKGuy, thanks
[01:20] <karmatronic> DARKGuy, yeah df -h
[01:20] <Maxi`> SurfnKid, du is for finding out the size of a file/dir
[01:20] <SurfnKid> oxygene_, karmatronic thx
[01:20] <TooR4u> msg nickserv identify srikanth
[01:20] <DARKGuy> SurfnKid: welcome
[01:20] <SurfnKid> Maxi`, yah but would you be able to use that or not really
[01:20] <mwe> TooR4u: oops
[01:20] <pantalaimon_> is there any difference between adding the archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repository with the security folder and adding the security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repository?
[01:21] <TooR4u> yah
[01:21] <SurfnKid> well i guess df is much better
[01:21] <naelphin> has anyone tried updating the kernel with the windows installer version?
[01:21] <Maxi`> SurfnKid, yes
[01:21] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:21] <Maxi`> SurfnKid, du -csh filename
[01:21] <mwe> TooR4u: change your pass now ;)
[01:21] <Maxi`> SurfnKid, df -h  to see the free space on your hd
[01:21] <andcor> Hey, anyone knows howto make alsa run a command if nothing is playing music, and run a command just before it starts playing again ?
[01:21] <nuke13> hi all
[01:21] <SurfnKid> Maxi`, gotcha
[01:21] <RingDonut> !n00b
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about n00b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <Zyb> !tits
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tits - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <naelphin> how do i turn off the mouse cursor shadow in edgy gnome?
[01:22] <naelphin> and all the silly animation on max/minimize
[01:24] <mwe> naelphin: click about in the menus. I don't use gnome but I remember it was easy to find the settings
[01:27] <derFlo> how can i make find only listing php and js files?
[01:27] <naelphin> or, how do you install mouse cursor themes :/
[01:27] <naelphin> i downloaded a plain one, don't know how to install
[01:27] <nuke13> google.... :)
[01:27] <Zyb> ls *.js *.php
[01:28] <derFlo> Zyb: No! I need also the Files in the subdirs.
[01:28] <Zyb> -rv
[01:28] <hbaigu> derFlo: man find
[01:28] <slowz> find *.php *.js /dir
[01:28] <Cpp_Linux> mypapit are you there?
[01:29] <derFlo> hbaigu: The man contains 560 Lines..
[01:29] <hbaigu> derFlo: take your time
[01:29] <derFlo> slowz: doesn't work
[01:30] <hbaigu> derFlo: it will pay in the future
[01:30] <sierleunam> hi. I've installed LAMP for doing some tests but i'm getting  "" symbols instead of "", "",... how can i fix that?
[01:30] <hyphenated> derFlo: find /dir -name '*.foo' -o -name '*.bar' ... change foo and bar to suit what you're looking for
[01:30] <derFlo> hbaigu: The problem is my english knowledge. i dont understand everything
[01:31] <derFlo> Big Thanks, hyphenated!
[01:32] <hyphenated> derFlo: english isn't your first language? I'm curious, how useful are 'man pages' ... are they translated into your language?
[01:33] <nomego> how do I install a java plugin to firefox?
[01:33] <DARKGuy> Man pages should have simple examples covering various cases. "man find" is one of the few ones which do, sadly.
[01:33] <alyssa_> hello room!
[01:33] <hyphenated> I hate the 'find' command.
[01:33] <alyssa_> Quick question - Does Dapper/Edgy support ATI Radeon 9550 graphics chips?
[01:33] <DARKGuy> why? oO
[01:33] <hyphenated> it's not unix-y at all
[01:34] <DARKGuy> eh, it does its job :P
[01:34] <nomego> should I install the gcjwebplugin or are there java applets that doesn't work with it? shouldn't sun's java be available since it's more open now?
[01:34] <IdleOne> !java | nomego
[01:34] <ubotu> nomego: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:34] <hyphenated> DARKGuy: _every_ _other_ command takes the files/directories/whatever after the options
[01:34] <nomego> IdleOne: thanks
[01:34] <Stormx2> !hardware | alyssa_
[01:34] <ubotu> alyssa_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:35] <hyphenated> DARKGuy: 'find' mixes and munges them more than 'test' does'
[01:35] <IdleOne> nomego: np
[01:35] <alyssa_> Stormx2, I m unfamiliar with IRC. What did you mean by "!hardware"
[01:35] <Zyb> iron thingy :P
[01:36] <DARKGuy> hyphenated: well, maybe you're right :/ yet, it was easier to find help on "find" to search in recursive folders than ls, I didn't know that ls -rv command until now :P
[01:36] <IdleOne> alyssa_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:36] <alyssa_> IdleOne, ubotu thanks.
[01:36] <IdleOne> np
[01:37] <Zyb> ubotu is a bot :P
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <IdleOne> alyssa_: ubotu is a bot and it holds many factoids that are triggered with commands like !harware
[01:37] <Cpp_Linux> Can someone help me with ubuntu installation prob? I'm getting weird graphics on installation..
[01:38] <alyssa_> IdleOne, oh okie. I ll try some commands
[01:38] <alyssa_> !hardware
[01:38] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:38] <ifti> I'm trying to get my Netgear WG111T USB Wifi adapter working in ubuntu edgy eft
[01:38] <ifti> but have no idea where to start even
[01:39] <flithm> hey everyone... I just upgraded to edgy from dapper, and everything went pretty good except for networking.  Eth0 comes up fine, but is not listed in the network settings dialog.  and my wireless adapter is no longer detected (not listed in ifconfig) however it IS listed in the network settings dialog... anyone know what might have gone wrong?
[01:39] <IdleOne> alyssa_: you can also /msg ubotu "search term" without the quotes and ubotu will answer you in a private message
[01:39] <alyssa_> IdleOne, thanks for that tip! :)
[01:39] <IdleOne> yup
[01:40] <ratha> hi i want to install E17 with the easy_e17 script.
[01:40] <IdleOne> !e17
[01:40] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[01:40] <ratha> but at the package entrace_edit_gui i get this: http://phpfi.com/195751
[01:41] <alyssa_> IdleOne, Would you know about Fujitsu C2220 and synaptics touch pad? I have synaptics touchpad config in xorg.conf, but my xorg.conf reports that it cant find the synaptics touch pad.
[01:41] <flithm> I think I figured out what's wrong... when I try to modprobe ndiswrapper I get "invalid argument"
[01:41] <ratha> anyone an idea how i can fix this?
[01:41] <alyssa_> !c2220
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c2220 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <IdleOne> alyssa_: nope sorry I dont.
[01:42] <alyssa_> !synaptics
[01:42] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:42] <IdleOne> there you go
[01:42] <alyssa_> IdleOne, no problem! I m experimenting with the bot!
[01:43] <ratha> or is there any other method to install E17? i don't found a good and up to date howto
[01:43] <guifeng> anybody try xgl?
[01:43] <Zyb> ubotu ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
[01:45] <ratha> nobody running E17?
[01:45] <salvestrini> hi all
[01:46] <slowz> ratha, edgy repos listed here http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog-edgy_en.php/post/2006/12/24/E17-Ubuntu-Edgy-Repositories-has-moved
[01:46] <salvestrini> pardon my ignorance, what is E17?
[01:46] <Lattyware> Just on a very random note, If a cut down version of ubuntu was made, it should be called buntu (microbuntu)
[01:46] <Lattyware> that is all.
[01:47] <nomego> salvestrini: enlightenment (e17)
[01:47] <salvestrini> thx nomego :)
[01:48] <nomego> salvestrini: http://www.enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/DR17/
[01:48] <sc4ttrbrain> anyone please check whether this https://ns1.muzaki.org:81/ accessible outside my network or not?
[01:48] <Hobbsee> sc4ttrbrain: it's not
[01:48] <hbaigu> sc4ttrbrain: not
[01:48] <sc4ttrbrain> Hobbsee, what does it say?
[01:49] <sierleunam> anyway thanks for not helping
[01:49] <Hobbsee> sc4ttrbrain: 404
[01:49] <sc4ttrbrain> hmmm... ubuntu gives me headache
[01:50] <salvestrini> is it possible to use e17 with beryl? or would it be out of the q?
[01:50] <hbaigu> sc4ttrbrain: my dns cannot resolve the address
[01:51] <sc4ttrbrain> hbaigu, i can only reach it within my network
[01:51] <sc4ttrbrain> :(
[01:51] <salvestrini> sc4ttrbrain i cant resolve ur address
[01:52] <sc4ttrbrain> thanks ,i ll see whats the probs
[01:52] <SurfnKid> does anyone have good png's for the skydome
[01:53] <SurfnKid> i could really use some good backgrounds
[01:53] <SurfnKid> :)
[01:53] <sc4ttrbrain> SurfnKid, in beryl forum they have it :)
[01:54] <SurfnKid> got to check it out then
[01:54] <mike1o> no 3D on K8M890 card SOS !!
[01:54] <abc> as
[01:55] <b_d_p> hiyas, I'm having trouble with Amarok in Ubuntu Edgy. Just loaded ubuntu last week, moved my music collection in, connected my ipod, all good. today, amarok won't even launch - just crashed while opening a few times, and now not even throwing an error... where do i look for clues?
[01:56] <sc4ttrbrain> b_d_p, noerror when launch it with terminal?
[01:56] <b_d_p> lemme check
[01:57] <b_d_p> hmm, core dump
[01:57] <sc4ttrbrain> are u using beryl?
[01:57] <b_d_p> nope, just a fairly clean ubuntu set up
[01:57] <Zyb> !beryl
[01:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:58] <ramvi> If I visualise windows, will my linux-unsupported scanner be usable, or can visualisations only use what linux makes available to it?
[01:58] <shriphani_> hmm is beryl all about eye candy or does it have some stuff that distinguishes it in quality
[01:58] <sc4ttrbrain> ramvi, u mean virtualisation?
[01:59] <grogoreo> hi
[01:59] <Kesman> shriphani_: it makes it a bit easier to use virtual desktops
[01:59] <frogzoo> shriphani_: no, beryl is all about the eye candy, and very nice it is too
[01:59] <sc4ttrbrain> shriphani_, try it :)
[01:59] <ramvi> sc4ttrbrain, ups - yeah ;)
[01:59] <BradonH> hey, im looking for feedback on an idea i had- all ive done so far is the launchpad entry- link is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/voip-tech-support
[01:59] <shriphani_> ooh..... does it go a bit harsh on system requirements ?
[01:59] <grogoreo> when I do a: dosfsck -a /dev/sda on an MP3 player I get an error: Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error. Any ideas?
[02:00] <frogzoo> shriphani_: you need a decent 3d card, yes
[02:00] <grogoreo> I can't mount it or fdisk it
[02:00] <kritzstapf> hi, using the volume up and down keys of my keyboard ubuntu shows up a little applet, but it seems it controles no mixer, where to set this up?
[02:00] <sc4ttrbrain> ramvi, no it wont, because virtualisation simply mean virtualize device which is working on host OS
[02:00] <ramvi> thanks
[02:01] <alyssa_> Hello again room! quick question regarding SHMConfig, can someone advise how to turn it on? I have tried SHMConfig on and SHMConfig true, in vain. Consequently I am unable to use synclient
[02:01] <shriphani_> sad...... so i need to go shell money at ati or nvidia
[02:01] <kritzstapf> okay, it controls "IEC958 Center/LFE", but it should control "Analog Front" and "Analog Rear", how to change this?
[02:02] <ove> hi,i somehow managed to get my gnome theme to use large fonts and now i cant get it back to normal font size
[02:02] <sc4ttrbrain> lol
[02:02] <ove> :D
[02:02] <shriphani_> ove, System -----> Preferences ------> font or something
[02:02] <icet> hi, I use device sda (SATA) as my main HD, and I want to access my hda1 (IDE1) with a 120GB FAT partition, but /dev only sees hda, not hda. I cant get to mount it, and windows can see the partition just fine. Ideas?
[02:03] <ove> ah, thank you shriphani_
[02:04] <sc4ttrbrain> !bind
[02:04] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[02:04] <e4m> which permissions must have my home?
[02:05] <e4m> and my /etc directory. i chrotted by livecd becouse of kernel panic occurred my box. after i recive various error of permission deined.
[02:05] <e4m> howto i can set right permissions?
[02:06] <icet> I get this error in dsmeg: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error  } hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[02:06] <sc4ttrbrain> e4m, what for? whats ur aim?
[02:06] <ubuntu> hi all
[02:07] <ubuntu> i guess that the ubuntu installer is bugged
[02:07] <ubuntu> it complain that i have no root FS
[02:07] <ubuntu> when I'm tryng to put / on /dev/sda3
[02:07] <sc4ttrbrain> ubuntu, have u check the integrity of the cd itself?
[02:07] <salvestrini> hmmm
[02:08] <e4m> sc4ttrbrain, howto set right permission for my /home directory?
[02:08] <salvestrini> ubuntu, are you trying to install the os in multiple partitions?
[02:08] <sc4ttrbrain> e4m, u dont have to
[02:09] <sc4ttrbrain> oops sorry didnt read it first
[02:09] <salvestrini> the way i did it was
[02:09] <sc4ttrbrain> e4m, dunno bout ur situation :(
[02:10] <salvestrini> the way i set up my partition scheme was:
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Zaggynl: woot :)
[02:10] <Zaggynl> \0/
[02:10] <e4m> sc4ttrbrain, but which is the syntax to set permission for my user in my /home/user directory?
[02:10] <salvestrini> 1 /boot partition with 64 mb
[02:10] <zeembo> can anyone help me to share a mounted hard drive with windows computers?
[02:10] <salvestrini> 1 root partition with 20 gb
[02:10] <ubuntu> no
[02:10] <ubuntu> only one /
[02:10] <ubuntu> btw, i've solved
[02:11] <ubuntu> let the default part scheme
[02:11] <zeembo> can anyone help me share my mounted drive on the network with windows comps?
[02:11] <salvestrini> yeah, i was going to tell you that you need one ext3 partition
[02:11] <sc4ttrbrain> e4m, chmod and chown ? u mean that sintax
[02:12] <ove> zeembo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba
[02:12] <e4m> sc4ttrbrain, yes
[02:12] <mike1o> !paste
[02:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <shriphani_> e4m, chmod 755 ?
[02:13] <e4m> chown /home/user user:user  && chmod -R 664 /home/user
[02:13] <e4m> ?
[02:13] <shriphani_> chmod -R i.e.
[02:14] <adaptr> e4m: chown user:user /home/user
[02:14] <salvestrini> ne1 has beryl svn installed?
[02:14] <adaptr> yes
[02:14] <sc4ttrbrain> salvestrini, y
[02:14] <salvestrini> ok my incarnation has forgotten to set up beryl-settings for some reason
[02:14] <shriphani_> adaptr, is chmod -R 755 wrong ?
[02:15] <adaptr> shriphani_: I don't know, for what ?
[02:15] <ove> salvestrini: beryl-settings doesnt work with the latest svn
[02:15] <shriphani_> adaptr, /home/username
[02:15] <salvestrini> so... how can i modify beryl settings?
[02:15] <mike1o> i cant get past this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2405/
[02:16] <adaptr> shriphani_: mine is 755
[02:16] <shriphani_> so it should work theoretically right adaptr ?
[02:16] <adaptr> shriphani_: but you should never chmod -R anything executable
[02:16] <ove> you can't in the latest svn, go back to a stabil verison of beryl
[02:16] <shriphani_> oh
[02:16] <sc4ttrbrain> salvestrini, u cant acces beryl settings? i did solve it by nonactiving beryl main repo and reinstall beryl svn
[02:16] <adaptr> shriphani_: I don't knop, you're both talking at cross-purposes, it seems
[02:17] <salvestrini> *thinking*
[02:17] <sc4ttrbrain> chmod -R for recursive
[02:17] <salvestrini> the thing is
[02:18] <salvestrini> if i install the stable beryl, it doesn't really work... i get a black screen :-S
[02:18] <shriphani_> yep so i am doing a chmod -R on a dir... not on an executable right ?
[02:18] <derFlo> find ./ -name '*.js' -o -name '*.php' | xargs cat | wc -l   - - - I Want find to except one Directory in the listing. i know i have to do it with Prune, but that operator is very complicated! Could anyone please help me? Thanks
[02:18] <sc4ttrbrain> shriphani_, its ok i think to do -R
[02:18] <adaptr> shriphani_: *if* *you* chmod -R 755 a directory, every single file under it will be made executable - don't do that, simple as that
[02:19] <nuke13> when is the next beta out?
[02:19] <shriphani_> oh..... thx adaptr
[02:20] <derFlo> find ./ -name '*.js' -o -name '*.php' | xargs cat | wc -l   - - - I Want find to except one Directory in the listing. i know i have to do it with Prune, but that operator is very complicated! Could anyone please help me? Thanks
[02:20] <adaptr> derFlo: how about you start by explaining - clearly - what you want to achieve ?
[02:21] <kritzstapf> derFlo, nice crossposting
[02:21] <flossgeek> Is there any GIMP Pros in here that could make me a hackergotchi?
[02:22] <NkZ> Greetings Guys.
[02:23] <adaptr> #gimnp ?
[02:23] <adaptr> #gnmimp ?
[02:23] <gnuwtey> hi, it's me again
[02:23] <gnuwtey> i got the live DVD
[02:23] <gnuwtey> but I don't know how to burn it
[02:23] <NkZ> I just installed "Democracy Player" (www.getdemocracy.com) and it installed another copy of Mozilla Firefox (1.7) so now I have 2 copies of Firefox on my PC. How could I delete the older copy?
[02:23] <flossgeek> Sorry for off toppic
[02:24] <flossgeek> i will go to GIMP channel
[02:24] <torbesh> hello
[02:24] <torbesh> is there anyone can help me about a gnome problem
[02:24] <NkZ> Anyone who had the same issue as I?
[02:25] <torbesh> i have two mozilla firefox browser also
[02:25] <torbesh> but doesnt bother me
[02:25] <NkZ> How you delete the older one? any Idea?
[02:26] <torbesh> try searching ubuntuforums.org for 'uninstalling a software'
[02:26] <NkZ> Roger that.
[02:26] <torbesh> my problem doesnt included on that forum pitty me
[02:26] <NkZ> Hell, Why didn't I think of that before?
[02:26] <torbesh> but i think there is no advanced ubuntu user inside now
[02:26] <NkZ> Thanks! Will try right atay.
[02:26] <NkZ> Did you try to google it up?
[02:26] <NkZ> Sometimes Google is really useful
[02:27] <torbesh> are you kidding?
[02:27] <christopherl> does anybody know in which file Firefox keep the bookmarks?
[02:27] <NkZ> Not at all. Everyone thinks of that everytime i say it, ha ha ha.
[02:27] <someothernick> christopherl, profile
[02:28] <ywb> hello
[02:28] <hbaigu> christopherl ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[02:28] <someothernick> /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/
[02:29] <torbesh> is there anyone can help me about a gnome problem?
[02:29] <christopherl> thanks
[02:29] <cypher1> !ask | torbesh
[02:29] <ubotu> torbesh: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:29] <torbesh> i lost the icons on the main gnome menus at top left...there are just names now
[02:29] <someothernick> i save my .default file for a backup
[02:29] <torbesh> where can i get them back?
[02:30] <Jedrick> what is wine?
[02:30] <hbaigu> !wine | Jedrick
[02:30] <ubotu> Jedrick: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:30] <NkZ> Can't delete that Firefox (The 2nd one) If I do, It will delete the Democracy Player.
[02:30] <someothernick> those would be running programs i think
[02:30] <Jedrick> can i install programs on windows on wine?
[02:31] <NkZ> You can Jed.
[02:31] <Jedrick> kool
[02:31] <NkZ> Don't ask me how, but you can.
[02:31] <Jedrick> you mean everything?
[02:31] <torbesh> how can i get gnome menu icons back?
[02:31] <cypher1> torbesh, can you please paste the o/p of "dpkg -l '*icon*'"
[02:31] <torbesh> ok
[02:31] <NkZ> Not "Everything" I think. It has some incompatibilities with some applications.
[02:32] <wolfwalker> !Jack
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <torbesh> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[02:32] <torbesh> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[02:32] <torbesh> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[02:32] <torbesh> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[02:32] <torbesh> +++-[02:32] <Jedrick> NkZ: like what?  what are  programs that doesn't run on wine
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  gnome-icon-the 2.16.0.1-0ubun GNOME Desktop icon theme
[02:32] <wolfwalker> ......
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  hicolor-icon-t 0.9-0ubuntu4   default fallback theme for FreeDesktop.org i
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  human-icon-the 0.7-0ubuntu1   Human Icon theme
[02:32] <torbesh> un  libiconv-ruby1 <none>         (no description available)
[02:32] <someothernick> !pastebin
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  libtext-iconv- 1.4-3          converts between character sets in Perl
[02:32] <DARKGuy> ahhhh
[02:32] <torbesh> un  libuniconf4.0  <none>         (no description available)
[02:32] <jatt> ugh
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  libuniconf4.2  4.2.2-2.1ubunt C++ network libraries for rapid application
[02:32] <wolfwalker> !you don't know jack
[02:32] <DARKGuy> !pastebin > torbesh
[02:32] <torbesh> un  openoffice.org <none>         (no description available)
[02:32] <jatt> stop it man
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  silicon-theme  0.1-0ubuntu1   Silicon GTK theme
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  tangerine-icon 0.14-0ubuntu1  Tangerine Icon theme
[02:32] <NkZ> !democracy
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  tango-icon-the 0.7.2+cvs06.07 Tango Icon theme
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <DARKGuy> too late
[02:32] <DARKGuy> xD
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  tango-icon-the 0.5-0ubuntu1   Tango Icon theme - common icons
[02:32] <torbesh> un  xserver-xorg-d <none>         (no description available)
[02:32] <torbesh> ii  xserver-xorg-v 1.4.1-0ubuntu1 X.Org X server -- SiliconMotion display driv
[02:32] <torbesh> sorry
[02:32] <jatt> grr
[02:32] <someothernick> lol
[02:33] <DARKGuy> It's okay, we all did it the first time xD
[02:33] <wolfwalker> Okay, so if the bot doesn't know........... what is Jack?
[02:33] <DARKGuy> But, please, pretty pretty please, you can use the pastebin :)
[02:33] <DARKGuy> !pastebin
[02:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:33] <jin> when cretaing a zip file, my system becomes a bit slow :(
[02:34] <cypher1> torbesh, check System->Preferences->Menus & Toolbars
[02:34] <jatt> jin: how big is the file you are compressing?
[02:34] <jin> 700mb
[02:34] <jin> all mp3
[02:34] <DARKGuy> No wonder why
[02:34] <hbaigu> jinm, use renice
[02:35] <finalbeta> What program allows me to cut parts from divx/avi movies? Preferably without requiring reencoding.
[02:35] <cypher1> torbesh, please check whether "Show icons in menu" is enabled
[02:35] <spacedmonkey> hey - any ethereal users here?   I'm using ubuntu 6.06
[02:35] <wolfwalker> I have two questions. 1. what is jack? 2. If I'm running off the live cd, but my computer's hard drive is almost entirely full, would that stop the live cd from setting up the swap space needed?
[02:36] <jatt> jin: are you using zip or gzip?
[02:36] <hbaigu> spacedmonkey, ethereal change the name, now is wireshack
[02:36] <jatt> ugh... that's a bad name
[02:36] <belkin> anyone using qmail ?
[02:36] <sc4ttrbrain> !searchmonkey
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about searchmonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <spacedmonkey> hbaigu: yeah, but not in synaptics :)  it's giving me a permission error when trying tosave prefs (as sudo), ever seen that?
[02:37] <Zyb> !linux
[02:37] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[02:37] <jin> jatt, zip
[02:38] <mike1o> im trying to create dependencies for a package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2405/
[02:39] <wolfwalker> Anyone?
[02:39] <jatt> jin: 700MB is a big file, maybe you can try with gzip instead and see if it does better? (e.g.: tar cvzf archive.tgz directory_with_mp3)
[02:39] <Spee_Der> !jack
[02:40] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[02:40] <wolfwalker> If I'm running off the live cd, but my computer's hard drive is almost entirely full, would that stop the live cd from setting up the swap space needed?
[02:40] <wolfwalker> Cause it doesn't even get to the Ubuntu loading bar
[02:40] <adop> mike1o: try sudo apt-get update
[02:40] <jin> jatt, nah, don't wanna get myself in the console to zip files
[02:41] <gnuwtey> hi again...
[02:41] <jin> I'm trying NOT to use the terminal
[02:41] <gnuwtey> can anyone help me with burning the live DVD?
[02:41] <DARKGuy> in Linux, it's *hard* to not to use the terminal
[02:41] <DARKGuy> :/
[02:41] <spacedmonkey> terminal looks scary, but isn't really
[02:41] <Enverex> Is anyone free to edit the pages on the Ubuntu HardwareSupport Wiki?
[02:42] <dyland30> someone can help me to create an OpenPGP key
[02:42] <jin> it's not scary for me, I used to work in the ocnsole for years
[02:42] <DARKGuy> Yeah, it can be confusing and frustrating at times >.<... but when you get the hang of it, you'll miss 'em in Windows xD
[02:42] <jin> but I'm trying not to use it...
[02:42] <jin> :P
[02:42] <DARKGuy> oh
[02:42] <spacedmonkey> fair enough :)
[02:42] <uiiu> darkguy:i kind of support non-CLI work - it will help ubuntu go mainstream :)
[02:42] <jatt> jin: AFAIK file-roller (gnome application) is able to create .tgz files too (I haven't tried myself though).
[02:42] <jin> it can
[02:43] <DARKGuy> uiiu: Same here, I just lack the C++ knowledge to use GTK or anything like that, the APIs way too complicated, don't wanna learn python... bleh xD
[02:43] <jin> but with .zip the result is better, better int he sense of smaller filesize
[02:43] <jin> a few kb smaller. not that much
[02:43] <jin> still
[02:43] <torbesh> is it possible to use different wallpapers on each side of beryl cube?
[02:44] <phaidros> hi, is there an edgy irc also? or all questions here?
[02:44] <DARKGuy> phaidros: all here :P
[02:44] <phaidros> hehe :)
[02:44] <jin> mhh ubuntu is moving fast
[02:44] <spacedmonkey> torbesh - that reminds me, i've been meaning to ask this - what is beryl?
[02:45] <wolfwalker> !beryl
[02:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:45] <phaidros> I have Font Problems with edgy. FontPath is as recommended in xorg.conf. but fontforge says font not found (the one which uses it to render its windows)
[02:45] <DARKGuy> Beryl friggen' rocks
[02:45] <DARKGuy> =)
[02:45] <jin> not really, It's still a bit bugy
[02:45] <phaidros> some font gurus here
[02:45] <spacedmonkey> ahah!  thanks - didn't know about ! commands either
[02:45] <phaidros> ?
[02:45] <jin> and it needs better performance
[02:46] <phaidros> how to rebuild /usr/share/X11/Fonts/* there is adobe helvetiva listed but not there as .pcf file ..
[02:46] <torbesh> how can i get systray back? it is lost
[02:46] <phaidros> wolfwalker, ask again, came to late to see it :
[02:46] <wolfwalker> If I'm running off the live cd, but my computer's hard drive is almost entirely full, would that stop the live cd from setting up the swap space needed?
[02:46] <wolfwalker> Cause it doesn't even get to the Ubuntu loading bar
[02:46] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343234 ?
[02:46] <Enverex> Which hardware Database is the official Ubuntu one? Neither of them seem particularly popular :(
[02:47] <phaidros> wolfwalker, possbile. do you have an xtra partition for swap?
[02:47] <Zyb> !hardware
[02:47] <jin> wolfwalker, I don't think the live cd will use your hd for swap
[02:47] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:47] <wolfwalker> Nope
[02:47] <phaidros> but even if its not the swap, if there is no space for /tmp or other like logs, it might be the reason
[02:47] <wolfwalker> Just Windows XP and a 20 gig hard drive that's pretty much full
[02:47] <wolfwalker> I know I used to be able to run Ubuntu off the cd
[02:48] <wolfwalker> But now it won't get past "Uncompressing Linux kernel"
[02:48] <phaidros> What to do if /usr/share/X11/Fonts is borked and an App doesn;t want to start because it doesn't find a font?
[02:48] <phaidros> wolfwalker, then its not your hd
[02:48] <jin> wolfwalker, probably something with the cd
[02:48] <wolfwalker> Tried it with two versions of Ubuntu and one of Kubuntu
[02:48] <Jedrick> what is beryl?
[02:48] <wolfwalker> !beryl
[02:49] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:49] <phaidros> livecd should be run even without hd
[02:49] <zenit> derFlo:  find . -wholename './exclude' -prune -a -type f -o -name '*.js*' -o -name '*.php' | xargs wc -l
[02:49] <phaidros> is there an ubuntu dtp irc?
[02:49] <Zaggynl> !oss
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with getting OSS to work?
[02:49] <wolfwalker> It says it failed to mount swap, then the screen just goes black
[02:49] <phaidros> Zaggynl, you want to use ALSA usually ..
[02:49] <wolfwalker> Have to unplug the computer and plug it back in to even get the cd out
[02:50] <Zaggynl> phaidros, true, but Teamspeak and Wine don't work (well) with Alsa
[02:50] <phaidros> @wolfwalker, sorry, have to correct myself: if your memory is not big enough to load the live cd, then it _has_ to swap. if there is no space to swap .. nothjing can be done. recomm: enhance your memory
[02:50] <Linux_den> my ubuntu tells me i have 8 updates. I install them but upon completion they show still available any ideas?
[02:51] <torbesh> is it possible to connect a windows computer from ubuntu (like remote desktop)?
[02:51] <phaidros> Linuturk, try # sudo aptitude upgrade   in ther terminal
[02:51] <wolfwalker> I'm running on 256 megs, that's certain
[02:51] <phaidros> torbesh, look for remote desktop
[02:51] <wolfwalker> So clear out some files and it should run?
[02:51] <phaidros> wolfwalker, its not much
[02:51] <Jedrick> what's the use of beryl?
[02:51] <wolfwalker> Nope, it's sure not
[02:51] <wolfwalker> But it was a cheap computer
[02:52] <phaidros> yes, give it a shot and free, lets say hald a gig or so
[02:52] <derFlo> zenit: it doestn exclude './exclude' in the output.
[02:52] <wolfwalker> I'll go wipe some files
[02:52] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: To show off and impress your friends with wobbly windows and a rotating 3D desktop cube and laugh at their Vista OS :P
[02:52] <torbesh> DARKGuy: this is the definition:)
[02:52] <DARKGuy> torbesh: hehe xD
[02:53] <phaidros> torbesh, sorry, look for terminal server client. can work as vnc client
[02:53] <zenit> derFlo: It's just an example, try to use wildcards with your directory './exclude*'
[02:53] <Gosha> !ccd
[02:53] <zenit> derFlo: it worked here at least
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ccd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 is it graphical or command line?
[02:53] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  kool... doesn't that eat too much cpu usage?
[02:54] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: not much, depends on your PC specs and the settings you use in beryl
[02:54] <torbesh> it works nearly perfect on my machine (1GB ram 1.8 GHz cpu 128 graphic card)
[02:54] <phaidros> torbesh, look in synaptic for terminal server client, or go apt-get install vncviewer. vncviewer is command line, terminal server clients utilizes the commandline ..
[02:54] <phaidros> torbesh, # vncviewer $IP .. should then ask for the pass
[02:55] <phaidros> (if on the other machine vncserver is running)
[02:55] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: ok, sounds kool. i wanna try it. do you use beryl?
[02:55] <sharperguy> how do i find out which graphics driver is running?
[02:55] <zenit> torbesh: rdesktop, nice utility for connecting to remote desktop
[02:55] <torbesh> phaidros: are there any graphical one?
[02:55] <Zaggynl> Anyone here uses Ubuntu Dapper and a Creative Audigy SE soundcard?
[02:55] <phaidros> Fontforge and other X-Apps are unusable: Help! Server claimed font
[02:55] <phaidros>         -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1
[02:55] <phaidros>  existed in the font list, but when I asked for it there was nothing.
[02:55] <phaidros>  I think I'll crash soon.
[02:55] <phaidros> how to fix?
[02:56] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: I used to have it installed, but just to show off. I reinstalled and don't have it now, but yes, it's cool :3
[02:56] <cypher1> torbesh, try tightvnc
[02:56] <phaidros> torbesh, terminal server client is a graphical frontend for vncviewer and others
[02:56] <Jedrick> :)
[02:56] <phaidros> well beryl is after the first use a lil boring ;)
[02:57] <cypher1> torbesh, tightvnc if you are planning to use VNC :)
[02:57] <phaidros> and - seems to have problems. ..
[02:57] <phaidros> always have troubles with this damn fglrx ..
[02:57] <phaidros> so thats why beryl is not the one for daily work
[02:57] <DARKGuy> I've only used it in nvidia, without xgl so :P
[02:57] <jatt> (vnc is damn slow though (compared to rdesktop (when trying to connect to remote Windos machines)))
[02:58] <Zeroc00l> Hi guyz
[02:59] <Zeroc00l> Somebody can help me to understand why mtab in /etc/mtab is 0 Kb and beacause of this I can't read any HD a part the partition of Linux?
[03:00] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with getting OSS to work?
[03:00] <Zeroc00l> I can't delete it because it said me that I must be root, but obviously I used "sudo" to delete it without results
[03:00] <Zyb> which file system is good for low-end computers?
[03:01] <torbesh> file system or os?
[03:01] <torbesh> distro
[03:01] <Zyb> ext2 ext3 reiserfs or something else
[03:01] <frogzoo> Zeroc00l: leave mtab alone - if it's really 0bytes, reboot
[03:01] <Nielsken> Installing tnet1130
[03:01] <Nielsken> couldn't copy TNET1130.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[03:01] <Nielsken> What's the problem here? Its a wifi card driver
[03:02] <frogzoo> Zeroc00l: is / mounted rw ?
[03:02] <phoenix24> what is UbuntuStudio ??
[03:02] <phaidros> how to rebuild fonts.dir if a .pcf is missing?
[03:02] <Zeroc00l> frogzoo: / I don't know if it's in rw and for the reboot I make it many times without success
[03:03] <Jowi> !ubuntustudio | phoenix24
[03:03] <ubotu> phoenix24: ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio
[03:03] <hbaigu> phaidros, try mkfontdir in the dir
[03:03] <TooR4u> !blender
[03:03] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[03:03] <phoenix24> ubotu: are the developers invited ?
[03:04] <frogzoo> 01:01 |   Nielsken | couldn't copy TNET1130.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[03:04] <Nielsken> frogzoo: yes
[03:04] <frogzoo> Nielsken: soz, paste malfunction
[03:04] <frogzoo> Zeroc00l: mount | grep " / "
[03:05] <Nielsken> frogzoo: malfunction?
[03:05] <Jowi> phoenix24, ubotu is a bot.
[03:05] <phaidros> hbaigu, in /usr/share/X11/fonts/ or /usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/ ??
[03:05] <Zeroc00l> frogzoo: ok I make it now
[03:05] <phoenix24> Jowi: yeah.. i realized.
[03:06] <Zeroc00l> frogzoo: yeah / is mounted rw
[03:07] <hbaigu> phaidros, in the dir that you want to rebuild
[03:07] <frogzoo> Zeroc00l: I'm not sure I believe that
[03:08] <phaidros> hbaigu, ok, but the font is still listed in fonts.alias .. how to get rid of this?
[03:08] <Zyb> is it possible to do clean install from iso file?
[03:08] <Zeroc00l> frogzoo:yeah, what?
[03:09] <Zyb> from win9x dos-mode
[03:09] <brandonbl79> anyone have access to how to access a hard drive i don't have permissions to.  I'd like to understand the permissions more.
[03:09] <jrib> brandonbl79: what filesystem?
[03:09] <brandonbl79> they are already mounted, and the icons are on my desktop
[03:09] <brandonbl79> not sure.
[03:09] <Zyb> whats the error?
[03:09] <mlesky> :-)
[03:09] <jrib> brandonbl79: how did you mount them?
[03:10] <brandonbl79> youd o not have permissions necessary
[03:10] <frogzoo> Zyb: don't be so cheap, just burn the dam cd
[03:10] <brandonbl79> do't remember.   i mounted them last time i was in linux a few months back.
[03:10] <jrib> brandonbl79: ok, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[03:11] <frogzoo> Zeroc00l: 0 length mtab is hopelessly broken, pls paste the output from 'mount |grep " / "'
[03:11] <brandonbl79> i don't know what that means anymore.   where do i go to execute that
[03:11] <Zyb> my cdrom is not cdr
[03:11] <jrib> brandonbl79: open a Terminal and type 'gedit /etc/fstab' without quotes.  Then visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and make a post there with the contents of the file.  Then give us the url
[03:11] <masura> uranus
[03:12] <brandonbl79> do i pastt the results into this chatroom?
[03:12] <erUSUL> !paste | brandonbl79
[03:12] <ubotu> brandonbl79: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:12] <jatt> no
[03:12] <brandonbl79> !paste
[03:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:13] <brandonbl79> i have to post to a website?  i hve the results.
[03:13] <hbaigu> phaidros, edit fonts.alias and remove the line
[03:14] <brandonbl79> I am going to have to reacquaint myself with ubuntu again.   It's like i'm starting from scratch
[03:14] <phaidros> hm, might do the trick :)
[03:14] <brandonbl79> i remember having access before.
[03:14] <brandonbl79> Both hd's are ntfs though
[03:14] <Welcome_Mongolia> hi all?
[03:15] <jrib> brandonbl79: ok, then you need to use a umask when you mount them.  Change your fstab according to the "permissions" section in the following website:
[03:15] <Jowi> wait, you installed ubuntu on a ntfs partition?
[03:15] <Welcome_Mongolia> anybody there?
[03:15] <jrib> !ntfs | brandonbl79
[03:15] <ubotu> brandonbl79: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:15] <parsek> When I play video using vlc and X11 output module in fullscreen I see edges on everywhere like there wasnt antialiasing or something like that, how could I fix this?
[03:15] <brandonbl79> ok, here i go down the rabbit hole
[03:15] <phaidros> hbaigu, ok, no more adobe-helvetica in the fonts.dir and fonts.alias, but the app (fontforge) still asks for it. can i reload fonts in running X or do I have to restart X ?
[03:16] <LjL> parsek: what about not using the X11 output module?
[03:16] <parsek> colors are wron when I use xvideo
[03:16] <parsek> g
[03:16] <variant> parsek: tried gl?
[03:16] <parsek> too bright or wrongly shaded or something
[03:16] <parsek> no
[03:16] <parsek> whats gl?
[03:16] <Welcome_Mongolia> goood luck
[03:16] <Welcome_Mongolia> gl is good luck
[03:16] <hbaigu> phaidros, restart is a easy way
[03:16] <variant> open gl output instead
[03:17] <variant> parsek: sounds like your gfx hardware is a bit borked
[03:17] <LjL> parsek, depending on your video card, there are settings that you can adjust for XVideo. if you have an nvidia with the binary driver, for instance, you can adjust some.
[03:17] <variant> or you have some driver issue
[03:17] <parsek> yes, but it does the same as X11
[03:17] <LjL> or try using opengl, yeps
[03:17] <Enverex> Welcome_Mongolia, GL is OpenGL
[03:17] <Welcome_Mongolia> somebody help me?
[03:17] <variant> parsek: what card is it?
[03:17] <Gosha> how long can filenames be in linux?
[03:17] <variant> Welcome_Mongolia: whats up?
[03:17] <jrib> brandonbl79: if you search for the first instance of "umask" you'll get to the aprt I am talking about btw.  It doesn't seem to be labelled as "permissions" like I thought
[03:17] <parsek> ati rage so not even fglrx drivers
[03:18] <Ayabara> I have mounted a truecrypt volume under ubuntu, but only root has write permissions to the drive. Chmod doesn't work, and when I try a chown it says the operation is not permitted. Anyone know what this could be?
[03:18] <hbaigu> !ask | Welcome_Mongolia
[03:18] <ubotu> Welcome_Mongolia: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:18] <Welcome_Mongolia> oooh
[03:18] <LjL> parsek, it's not like i've tried, but it doesn't really much surprise me that the X11 module lacks anti-aliasing. even if it had it, it would be done entirely in software, which is bad for performance... hardware antialiasing is usually a much better idea, and XVideo provides that
[03:18] <variant> Gosha: i think it varies
[03:18] <Welcome_Mongolia> open gl
[03:18] <oFF-beAt> Welcome_Mongolia, if u ask them wether they can help u or not.. they'll tell u they r not psychic
[03:18] <Enverex> parsek, You want the driver named "ati"
[03:18] <parsek> I have it
[03:18] <Welcome_Mongolia> how do wlan hacking
[03:18] <Gosha> then how big can it be in ubuntu?
[03:18] <brandonbl79> will i have to unmount and remount, or am i trying to edit the mounted drives?
[03:19] <variant> Ayabara: perhaps truecrypt doesn't support permissions?
[03:19] <jrib> brandonbl79: edit your fstab then unmount and remount
[03:19] <brandonbl79> i am under the mount partitions document
[03:19] <ygorre> !ntfs-3g
[03:19] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:19] <uii1> welcome_mongolia: what do you mean?
[03:19] <jrib> brandonbl79: you want to be at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6
[03:19] <variant> Welcome_Mongolia: lol, you mean connect to encrypted networks that your not supposed to have access to?
[03:19] <phaidros> hbaigu, of course .. isnt there a handy way to realod fonts?
[03:19] <uii1> variant: in the spirit of discovery...;)
[03:20] <variant> uii1: haha
[03:20] <parsek> but xvideo works smoothly and no AA issues but colors are ugly and when i move the cursor over the picture it gets green bourders, also when I move the window I see green at the back of it (normally its black)
[03:20] <uii1> welcome_mongolia:  you have to spoof your ip, so you can appear like you're the ap, then hijack the other users account. cool>
[03:20] <uii1> ?
[03:20] <brandonbl79> it's asking me for a password?
[03:20] <jrib> brandonbl79: enter your password
[03:21] <brandonbl79> oh....I need more coffee this morning
[03:21] <parsek> someone said its an overlay problem but how can I turn it off or configure it???
[03:21] <variant> parsek: is tihs only with vlc?
[03:21] <Jowi> parsek, if the problem is the same with mplayer it is either i good idea to try a different kernel version or to research if there's a video driver issue
[03:21] <variant> parsek: have you tried mplayer etc
[03:21] <parsek> no
[03:21] <ctothej> Can Beagle search my network drive and parse through the my pdfs there?
[03:21] <parsek> I have the same there
[03:21] <brandonbl79> ok, i'm in fstab.  gedit
[03:21] <brandonbl79> it's a blank screen
[03:22] <jrib> brandonbl79: it shouldn't be blank.  did you type the full command?
[03:22] <brandonbl79> i typed gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:22] <brandonbl79> it asked for my password, i typed it, and it brought me to a blank screen with fstab on top
[03:22] <Welcome_Mongolia> anybody have a Live cd Knoppix-STD ?
[03:22] <variant> brandonbl79: you didnt include a trailing / did you?
[03:22] <jrib> brandonbl79: ok close that.  Try:  gksudo "gedit /etc/fstab"
[03:22] <christopherl> someone know how to play .mov files in Firefox?
[03:23] <uii1> welcome_mongolia: sure -  but you can just download it too.
[03:23] <jrib> christopherl: I like to use mplayer's plugin
[03:23] <jrib> christopherl: with w32codecs
[03:23] <Welcome_Mongolia> why?
[03:23] <Welcome_Mongolia> why i can't use it
[03:23] <uii1> welcome_mongolia: i thought you were asking for it
[03:23] <christopherl> jrib: I downloaded it but Firefox loaded Totem, how can I change that?
[03:24] <parsek> mplayer does the same, also I have tried older, 5.10 and it worked (at least it was better) but as soon as I installed the updates it screwed it
[03:24] <jrib> christopherl: what do you mean by "downloaded"?  DId you install it through APT?
[03:24] <brandonbl79> OK, much better
[03:24] <Ayabara> variant, hm. I mount with -u, an option that should set permissions for the user doing the mount, and I have to run with sudo to mount. Guess I'm not allowed to change it afterwards..
[03:24] <christopherl> jrib: yes
[03:24] <brandonbl79> I have alot of HD's,   (i have two, but with a few partitions)
[03:24] <jrib> brandonbl79: what version of ubuntu by the way?
[03:24] <uii1> christopherl; i don't know what plugsins youv'e installed, but .mov won't "just play" by defualt...at least it didn't for me.
[03:24] <Welcome_Mongolia> so airsnort is possible work at linux
[03:24] <uii1> you may have to get the right decoder
[03:24] <brandonbl79> i'm sure there's a command to find that out right?
[03:24] <jrib> christopherl: then remove totem's plugin so firefox will use mplayer
[03:25] <christopherl> ok
[03:25] <Enverex> Welcome_Mongolia, Why are try trying to "hack wlan" anyway?
[03:25] <uii1> welcome_mongolia: sure, there's a lot of apps, one of the last issues of 2600 had a really good write up on exactly what you're looking fo
[03:25] <jrib> brandonbl79: find what out?
[03:25] <brandonbl79> version.
[03:25] <jrib> !version | brandonbl79
[03:25] <ubotu> brandonbl79: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[03:25] <uii1> *for
[03:25] <parsek> !ffmpeg
[03:25] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[03:25] <Daverocks> Welcome_Mongolia: yes, airsnort works under linux, but i find the aircrack-ng suite to be more effective
[03:25] <brandonbl79> 5.10
[03:25] <Welcome_Mongolia> anybody know about our country
[03:26] <Welcome_Mongolia> Mongolia
[03:26] <brandonbl79> breezy
[03:26] <uii1> lol - so theres a few grey hatters hidden amongst us huh?
[03:26] <Welcome_Mongolia> it's in asia
[03:26] <brandonbl79> am i outdated?
[03:26] <parsek> can I use ffmpeg to correct the output or is it for something else?
[03:26] <uii1> asia? really?
[03:26] <jiger> hey does anyone know of an easy way to change adsl password if using pppoe?
[03:26] <Welcome_Mongolia> yape
[03:26] <Welcome_Mongolia> asia
[03:26] <jiger> bridge mode
[03:26] <uii1> congragulations.
[03:26] <Zeroc00l> so guyz how can I delete a file that neither root can delete?
[03:26] <jrib> brandonbl79: k, you should consider upgrading soon.  breezy will reach end-of-life (no more security updates) in 3 months
[03:26] <Zeroc00l> it's /etc/mtab
[03:26] <Welcome_Mongolia> Did listen Chinggis Khaan?
[03:26] <Welcome_Mongolia> idd u?
[03:26] <Welcome_Mongolia> did u?
[03:26] <brandonbl79> ok 10-4, should i do that before i proceed?
[03:27] <uii1> welcome: uh - yeah. famous ruler, right?
[03:27] <jrib> brandonbl79: not really necessary.  It's up to you
[03:27] <jrib> brandonbl79: I would take care of the permissions first
[03:27] <brandonbl79> ok i'll save for later
[03:27] <brandonbl79> still have fstab open
[03:27] <uii1> is there a gui front-end to edit fstab?
[03:27] <nuke13> zeroc100:if root cant delete it no user can
[03:28] <jrib> brandonbl79: k, see the table on the wiki?  It lists filesystems and access permissions.  Find the ones you want, and change the options for your ntfs drives appropriately
[03:28] <Welcome_Mongolia> uiil?
[03:28] <Welcome_Mongolia> asl plz?
[03:28] <Welcome_Mongolia> where r u?
[03:28] <oFF-beAt> hehehe is this a dating channel
[03:28] <uii1> *blushing*
[03:29] <Zeroc00l> nuke13: yeah wonderful
[03:29] <nuke13> lol
[03:29] <brandonbl79> so i delete defaults, and i paste in the new thing (clsoed wiki), but somehting with the mask
[03:29] <Welcome_Mongolia> blushing?
[03:29] <uii1> welcome: i'm in the western hemisphere unfortunately.
[03:29] <Zeroc00l> lol
[03:29] <selahone> the ubuntu dating channel...fstabit baby...
[03:29] <nuke13> what type of file is it?
[03:29] <Ayabara> anyone using truecrypt?
[03:29] <nuke13> yeh
[03:29] <nuke13> y?
[03:29] <jrib> brandonbl79: right
[03:29] <selahone> you can gksudo /et/fstab without problems can't you?
[03:29] <jrib> brandonbl79: only for the ntfs drives of course
[03:29] <uii1> ayabara: a little bit, what's up?
[03:29] <Zeroc00l> nuke13: my mtab is corrupted and I can't delete it and also rebooting it doesn't reconstruct itself
[03:29] <Welcome_Mongolia> uiil
[03:30] <Welcome_Mongolia> plz repeat
[03:30] <oFF-beAt> papaUbuntu+mamaUbuntu = kidUbuntu
[03:30] <Welcome_Mongolia> where are you from?
[03:30] <brandonbl79> Ok makes sense, that doesn't change the ntfs, it just allows ubuntu to access it?
[03:30] <uii1> welcome: USA
[03:30] <Welcome_Mongolia> how old r u?
[03:30] <jrib> brandonbl79: it changes the way ubuntu mounts the drive
[03:30] <jin> hi
[03:30] <jin> any ftp client that support ftp server that uses SSL?
[03:30] <brandonbl79> I've got to run jrib.   Thanks for the help.   I'm going to meet the in-laws for breakfast.  I've got alot morehomework to do, but will try this and see what happens.
[03:30] <uii1> welcome: 16, 36D, size 8...
[03:30] <brandonbl79> P.S.  is anyone able to edit video in Ubuntu?
[03:31] <Ayabara> uii1, I can only mount my (fat) truecrypt volume as root, so my user never gets write permissions. do you need to run "sudo truecrypt" when mounting?
[03:31] <uii1> j/k
[03:31] <jrib> brandonbl79: k, "umount" is the unmount command by the way.  And you reload your fstab afterwards with "mount -a"
[03:31] <jiger> hey does anyone know how to change just the password in pppoe if using bridge mode?
[03:31] <Welcome_Mongolia> just 16 years old?
[03:31] <jrib> brandonbl79: take a look at "kino" and "pitivi"
[03:31] <uii1> welcome: j/k, i'm older, sorry to dissapoint.
[03:31] <brandonbl79> OK, i will try..  Take it easy jrib.
[03:31] <nuke13> zeroc001: oright, well i dont know how to fix that one
[03:32] <selahone> uii1 you should be able to open fstab in gedit with gksudo gedit /etc/fstab..right people?
[03:32] <Odd_Bloke> I'm currently trying to install mozilla-enigmail on an amd64 install but cannot do so because it depends on mozilla-mailnews < 2:1.7.12.0 but 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 is to be installed. Is this a known problem and/or is there a workaround I can use?
[03:32] <uii1> ayabara: try editing fstab with 'user', the right gid
[03:32] <Welcome_Mongolia> uiil
[03:32] <Welcome_Mongolia> can u help me
[03:32] <gibbonsfire4> Hello all I've finally after trying six different types of Linux decided to move to ubuntu.  It seems to be the best.
[03:32] <hbaigu> jiger: see in /etc/ppp/*-secrets
[03:32] <Zeroc00l> nuke13: thanks you're my hero ^_^
[03:32] <nuke13> lol
[03:32] <nuke13> sorry,
[03:32] <uii1> selahone: thanhks, but i'm thinking of a gui program for n00bs (like myself :) - someone that's easy to walk through...it seems like alot of people have issues with it at one point or another
[03:33] <Zaggynl> why does Teamspeak steall all sound
[03:33] <Zaggynl> *steal
[03:33] <gibbonsfire4> My problem is I can't see my second hard drive.  Can anyone help.
[03:33] <Ayabara> uii1, hmm. it seems that the default behaviour for truecrypt is that it won't let non-admin users run it. did you build it from source?
[03:33] <uii1> welcome: sure. what do you need - my credit card number?
[03:33] <Welcome_Mongolia> not
[03:33] <Welcome_Mongolia> why credit card number
[03:33] <christopherl> uii1: what plugins do you have to Firefox?
[03:33] <Zeroc00l> nuke13: really I'm joking
[03:33] <Welcome_Mongolia> our work connected 70 pc
[03:33] <selahone> uii1 I don't think that will work without root permission tho..now yer getting into sudoers territory..noobs like us need not apply. lol
[03:33] <nuke13> gibbonsfire4: have you mounted it?
[03:33] <Odd_Bloke> Actually, I see there's a mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail so the problem is irrelevant to me.
[03:33] <Odd_Bloke> It still, however, exists...
[03:33] <Sianis_> hi all
[03:33] <uii1> welcome; j/k
[03:34] <uii1> selaphone: :)
[03:34] <Welcome_Mongolia> what mean j/k
[03:34] <gibbonsfire4> I can't see it to mount it nuke
[03:34] <uii1> ayabara: no, i used the windows version..and it was sometime back with 2000 (yuck!) i was just giving a shot at an answer...
[03:34] <uii1> welcome: j/k = joking.
[03:34] <Welcome_Mongolia> no no
[03:35] <Welcome_Mongolia> i am not joking
[03:35] <nuke13> gibbonsfire4: do you know how to and have you tried or are you a n00b?
[03:35] <Welcome_Mongolia> i want to internet our work's other pc
[03:35] <dean> hallo
[03:35] <Welcome_Mongolia> sorry
[03:35] <gibbonsfire4> I'm a noob, but I have tried.  I'm very weak on terminal
[03:35] <Welcome_Mongolia> inter
[03:35] <wedderburn> hey all, simple question what package can i find the Ubuntu Boot Up Screen ( http://www.iosn.net/Members/kaeru/blog/qemu-ubuntu/ubuntu-boot.png ), thanks. im doing the art for ubuntustudio.
[03:35] <Ayabara> uii1, not the worst guess I've heard :)
[03:36] <Welcome_Mongolia> ok bye
[03:36] <Welcome_Mongolia> bye all
[03:36] <selahone> uii1 I cheat anyway. I use puppy live cd to edit my fstabs. lol
[03:36] <selahone> Cya Mong.
[03:37] <Welcome_Mongolia> anybody can't  help me
[03:37] <pontus1> p is double pointer: while ((*p)->next =! NULL) {....} gives: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
[03:37] <uii1> ayabara: :) thanks - you're nice.
[03:37] <nuke13> gibbonsfire4: check your private chat channel
[03:37] <Ayabara> uii1, :)
[03:38] <uii1> ayabara: the only thing i can think of is that you can change the group permissions on it...again - just another guess. and then make sure your user is in the right group.
[03:38] <gibbonsfire4> Sorry nuke I'm using xchat for the first time as well do you want me in DCC Chat list?
[03:39] <nuke13> gibbonsfire4: na i will just talk here, is it an old windown partittion you are trying to mount?
[03:39] <nuke13> windows*
[03:39] <Ayabara> uii1, it seems to be truecrypts problem. it will only let root mount volumes, and then it locks permissions to root. I'm gonna try to build it from source and enable it for "non-admins"
[03:39] <hbaigu> wedderburn, are you searching for usplash
[03:40] <uii1> ayabara: try this: sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/truecrypt
[03:40] <nuke13> gibbonsfire4: and is it ntfs?
[03:40] <wedderburn> hbaigu: nope the image that appears when you first insert the cd, already done the usplash
[03:41] <gibbonsfire4> nuke no I formatted it ext3
[03:41] <hbaigu> wedderburn, see if this help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:41] <uii1> "/usr/bin/truecrypt" = wherever it's isntalled
[03:41] <nuke13> gibbonsfire4: ok, in the terminal if you type 'mount' is it listed?
[03:41] <Ayabara> uii1, of course :-D . that did the trick. thanks!
[03:41] <uii1> ;)
[03:42] <gibbonsfire4> nuke no I only see hda1
[03:42] <dimeo> any laptop users figured out how to get their screen brightness controls to work?
[03:43] <Jedrick> i can't install .exe program on wine.. error is in OPENGL can't initialize. help pls.
[03:43] <Daverocks> dimeo: mine works because it's totally hardware based
[03:43] <wedderburn> hbaigu: its not the usplash, its the image that appears when you first boot from the cd, on the screen where it asks if you want to boot into a live cd  ect
[03:43] <nuke13> so when did you format the drive?
[03:44] <SushiP> Hi, could someone please help me to get the package "EciAdsl" working?
[03:44] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: what app? are you running it from a terminal?
[03:44] <dimeo> !EciAdsl
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about EciAdsl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <gibbonsfire4> nuke I formatted yesterday
[03:45] <dimeo> is gaim the best irc / messenger for gnome?
[03:45] <SushiP> Nothing shows up on the factoids.
[03:45] <nuke13> so you could see it yesterday but not today?
[03:45] <wedderburn> dimeo: theres xchat
[03:45] <Welcome_Mongolia> why can't logging other rooms?
[03:45] <dimeo> i heard kopete is good but it's for kde i think
[03:46] <uii1> dimeo: xchats pretty good imo
[03:46] <SushiP> xchat is better as a stand-alone irc client, but gaim saves you a lot of clicking.
[03:46] <uii1> my votes for gaim as well
[03:46] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  yes im running it in terminal
[03:46] <Daverocks> if you want a good IM client, go with gaim or kopete; if you want a good irc client, go with xchat or irssi
[03:47] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Can you pastebin the terminal output?
[03:47] <uii1> welcome_mongolia: what do you need help with?
[03:47] <mike1o> im having difficulties building dependencies & i dont understand why http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2405/
[03:47] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  ok wate
[03:47] <Jedrick> !paste
[03:47] <gibbonsfire4> nuke negative theres been no change from the windows format.  It seems to be the way ubuntu looks for stuff.  I used a terminal code a few days ago.  fl or something and I could see all the device but couldn't more.
[03:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:48] <SushiP> If I installed the version of eciadsl that's on the ubuntu site, should it show up in my bin and etc folders? The install guide for the debian eciadsl version says it should but I have no idea about the Ubuntu specialized one.
[03:48] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2413/
[03:48] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Thanks, let me see
[03:48] <dimeo> ok if my sound isn't working what can i enter in terminal ?
[03:49] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Do you have ATI or nVIDIA card?
[03:49] <Jedrick> nvidia
[03:49] <Zaggynl> gah, no worknig ways in Linux to emulate multiple sound channels for my soundcard :(
[03:49] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Try installing the nVIDIA drivers from the official site. According to the error log, it is apparent that you don't have accelerated OpenGL in your X display.
[03:50] <dimeo> killall esd didn't work...
[03:50] <gibbonsfire4> Can anyone help me find my hard drive
[03:50] <dv__> killall -9 esd ?
[03:50] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: That happens to me when I try to run wine apps in my Trident 4Mb non-accelerated card, but it doesn't in my GeForce card, so you need to install the nVIDIA drivers :P
[03:50] <uii1> gibbonsfire4: it's inside your computer next to the motherboard
[03:50] <gibbonsfire4> lol
[03:51] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: *optionally* downloading glu32.dll and glut32.dll and placing them where the .exe file is shall help if wine throws more OpenGL errors after you install the nVIDIA drivers
[03:51] <uii1> gibbonsfire4: :) is it mounted?
[03:51] <dimeo> sound prefrences and sound test is silent : killall -9 esd says no process killed
[03:51] <gibbonsfire4> then why can't ubuntu let me see and use it?
[03:51] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  i already have install the nvidia driver
[03:52] <Welcome_Mongolia> help me
[03:52] <Welcome_Mongolia> hey all?
[03:52] <gibbonsfire4> I can't see it to mount it.  It doesn't show up with mount cmd
[03:52] <Welcome_Mongolia> help me
[03:52] <uii1> gf4: no hda1, huh?
[03:52] <uii1> welcome: what's up buddy?
[03:52] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Weird. WINE says in that log that X can't find an accelerated GLX display. And that's usually fixed by installing the drivers.
[03:52] <Welcome_Mongolia> it's possible to install yahoo messengenger on linux?
[03:52] <jatt> Welcome_Mongolia: gaim supports yahoo messenger accounts
[03:52] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Try reinstalling them? from the official nVIDIA site, and letting it reconfigure your xorg.conf ?
[03:52] <uii1> welcome: i have no idea. try gaim
[03:52] <pontus1> are new "empty" pointers set as NULL?
[03:52] <gibbonsfire4> uiil yes I have hda1 but no hdb
[03:52] <constrictor> does anyone connect wirelessly with pcmcia card?
[03:53] <Welcome_Mongolia> it's not real yahoo messenger
[03:53] <Welcome_Mongolia> i want to real yahoo messenger
[03:53] <jatt> Welcome_Mongolia: ok
[03:53] <oFF-beAt> Welcome_Mongolia, gayache is a nice yahoo messenger clone
[03:53] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  dunno how did i do it i forgot. i just do what the how to tell me what to do
[03:53] <Jedrick> !nvidia
[03:53] <uii1> welcome: sometimes in life, we just have to settle.
[03:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <Jedrick> there
[03:53] <uii1> gb4: you know the file in /dev, right? can you mount it from there to a directory you create?
[03:53] <DARKGuy> Hm, let's see
[03:54] <Welcome_Mongolia> uiil
[03:54] <uii1> gb4: and you can see it in BIOS and all - no connection problems?
[03:54] <Welcome_Mongolia> how can i find that
[03:54] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Well, that's why.
[03:54] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: That's not the offical nVIDIA driver, but one supplied by Ubuntu package repository.
[03:55] <oFF-beAt> Welcome_Mongolia, try Gayache.. it's a yahoo messenger clone.. with voice n webcam support
[03:55] <oFF-beAt> looks like yahoo messenger too
[03:55] <uii1> off-beat: can you apt-get it?
[03:55] <gibbonsfire4> uiil roger it's in the bios and I used a cmd earlier that I can't remember and it showed up.
[03:55] <Welcome_Mongolia> how can i find that
[03:55] <uii1> gb4: lol - god, that happens to me all the time. "what the HELL  was that command?!"
[03:55] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  so i have to reinstall it again and install the driver?
[03:55] <Welcome_Mongolia> where is gayachi?
[03:55] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: I don't know how to uninstall that nVIDIA driver, but you will have to. And then download the driver from http://www.nvidia.com , the linux one... 9631 (unless you have a new new new card, get the latest one... 97something) and install it.
[03:55] <gibbonsfire4> lol
[03:56] <Marti3> hello again ... my internet crashes every few minutes :/
[03:56] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: uninstall the existing nVIDIA Ubuntu one, and install the official one
[03:56] <oFF-beAt> i'll check if they have a repos for it
[03:56] <uii1> well, if you know what it's supposed to be in /dev  (ie /dev/hdb), then you can jsut mount it, use -t ntfs (or ntfs-g3), but first mkdir...
[03:56] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: how to uninstall? im just new to linux :)
[03:56] <uii1> so mkdir /harddrive...mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /harddrive
[03:57] <gibbonsfire4> uiil i've formatted it ext3 , will those cmd work?
[03:57] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: I don't really know..... but we can try something. What card model do you have?
[03:58] <pontus1> if i "free" a struct, containing a pointer to data, the data doesn't get free'd aswell?
[03:58] <gibbonsfire4> I mdir / hardrive
[03:58] <Zaggynl> The peeps in #winehq told me to get the ALSA OSS driver to get OSS working, anyone has a clue how to do that?
[03:59] <uii1> gbf4: yeah that's find. you can either use mount -a, or mount -t ext3
[03:59] <Jedrick> i have a nvidia riva 64 pro. it's kinda old :)
[03:59] <buchanp> hey guys when i plug up my 160gb ide drive and reboot my computer it doesn't get past the grub screen it says Error 17
[03:59] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: heh yeah, it's okay anyways :P
[04:00] <hbaigu> pontus1, yes, got to ##C
[04:00] <buchanp> i figure if i reboot on the live cd with all m ydrives plugged in i'll be able to get a real layout of the device map
[04:00] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Lemme find a compatible one
[04:00] <buchanp> what files for grub do i need to edit?
[04:00] <buchanp> and do i have to reinstall grub t othe boot sector like lilo ?
[04:01] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: ok man thank you so much in advance. im just a new in linux ;)
[04:01] <uii1> gibbonsfire4: mkdir /harddrive, makes a hard drive folder, it's a reference point for you to access your hard drive (ie. mount point). you can name the folder anything you want and put it virtually anywhere on your comptuer. everytime you want to get to your hard drive you go to that folder
[04:01] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Hehe, you're welcome ^^ enjoy your stay :P
[04:01] <Welcome_Mongolia> how can i install gayachi
[04:01] <pontus1> oh, thought i was there
[04:01] <Welcome_Mongolia> uiil
[04:01] <Welcome_Mongolia> help me
[04:01] <adaptr2> ping adaptr
[04:01] <uii1> gibbobsfire4: then you mount to that folder - mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /harddrive
[04:02] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Okay... is your card listed here? (Just to re-check) -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/1.0-7184_supported_products.html
[04:02] <Ayabara> Is there a good rename tool for gnome out there, like krename for kde? guess I could use remame from shell, but I don't know perl expressions...
[04:02] <buchanp> whats wrong with using krename?
[04:02] <adaptr2> quit
[04:03] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  yeah, this one RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro
[04:03] <uii1> welcome: i have no idea. what's wrong with gaim?
[04:03] <gibbonsfire4>  uiil I made the directory but it doesn't want to mount, could my problem be in fstab?
[04:03] <hbaigu> Ayabara, xfce has one
[04:03] <uii1> welcome_mongolia: try google
[04:03] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Perfect :). Paste this into your browser and download: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7184/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[04:03] <constrictor> if anyone uses a pcmcia wireless card could you tell me the make and model, i'm trying to buy one that will work out of the box
[04:04] <Jedrick> ok
[04:04] <uii1> gibbonsfire4: what happens when you try to mount? and yes - you can edit fstab...
[04:04] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: While you're at it, open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install irssi" and install it. It's a terminal IRC client and you're going to need it in case something goes wrong so you can come back here
[04:04] <buchanp> apt-get bitchx
[04:04] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  ok
[04:05] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: usage is, just type "irssi", then "/server irc.freenode.net", change nick with "/nick Jedrick" and "/join #ubuntu"
[04:05] <DARKGuy> Oh well, bitchx does the same thing anyways
[04:05] <uii1> gibbonsfire4: /dev/hdb       /harddrive              ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:05] <gibbonsfire4> uiil after entering the cmds you said I get the mount help list.  I went to the directory and the drive doesn't show up there.
[04:05] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  done, i installed bitchx instead ;)
[04:06] <uii1> gibbons: you get the mount help list because somethings wrong with the command entered....
[04:06] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: alright xD. When nvidia driver finishes downloading, tell me
[04:06] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: ok. it's still connecting.. err
[04:06] <Ayabara> hbaigu, ok. maybe I will just download krename. I guess I don't have to avoid KDE packages alltogether :-)
[04:06] <lazysod> !bugs
[04:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:07] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Weird, try this link instead: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7184.html then click the link next to the "Download:" label.
[04:07] <uii1> gibbons: i mean syntax-wise
[04:07] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  ok
[04:07] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  ok im in
[04:07] <gibbonsfire4> uiil I entered..... sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb/hardrive... ... when i made the dir i misspelled harddrive so i kept it the same in the cmd
[04:08] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: cool, downloading?
[04:08] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: nope.. still loading :|
[04:08] <uii1> gibbons: space between /dev/hdb and /harddrive
[04:08] <gibbonsfire4> check one sec
[04:09] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: wtf :S try to give it a sec then :|
[04:09] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: or open up the Downloads window in firefox
[04:09] <oFF-beAt> Welcome_Mongolia, http://freshmeat.net/projects/gyachenhanced/
[04:09] <snadrik> Hi :) I want to remove all locales except two, how is that possible when dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt work anymore? (Dapper)
[04:09] <uii1> off-beat: you are a SAINT! wow, i'd long since given up - props ;)
[04:10] <granden> Hi
[04:10] <Welcome_Mongolia> danke off beat
[04:10] <oFF-beAt> uii1, got nothin better to do
[04:10] <granden> How is the default support for Geforce card and S-Video?
[04:10] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: dangit it won't load.. can you download the file?
[04:10] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: yes o.o;
[04:10] <uii1> offbeat: lol. do any of us?
[04:10] <gibbonsfire4> uiil getting somewhere, here's the response.....mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
[04:10] <gibbonsfire4>        missing codepage or other error
[04:10] <gibbonsfire4>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:10] <gibbonsfire4>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:10] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Well, let's do it manually then, www.nvidia.com
[04:11] <oFF-beAt> Welcome_Mongolia, u get cam and voice support with it,.. i tested it with my last ubuntu installation
[04:11] <uii1> gibbons: try "mount -a /dev/hdb /hardrive"
[04:11] <Jedrick> ok
[04:11] <Jedrick> then?
[04:11] <Welcome_Mongolia> thanks
[04:11] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: at the top bar, click Download Drivers, then again Download Drivers in the black pop-up menu. At the next page, click Graphics Driver, then GeForce and TNT2, then scroll down to Linux IA32
[04:12] <oFF-beAt> cam might not give u the exect model.. but i think most cams shud work
[04:12] <Gosha> can i make some kind of session that will start minimal programs so i dont have to shut them of manually?
[04:12] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  ok then?
[04:13] <gibbonsfire4> uiil it says... you must specify the filesystem type
[04:13] <snadrik> anyone?
[04:14] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: A new page should appear, click "Linux Display Driver Archive" and then scroll down until you find something like "Linux Display Driver - IA32 (new line) Version: 1.0-7184"
[04:14] <Ignite> gibbonsfire4, pass the -t option with the filesystem type, e.g. -t ext3
[04:14] <Ignite> gibbonsfire4, or if you don't know, -t auto
[04:14] <G|wRGoS> anybody help me?i install nvidia drivers and now when i start me pc i see 2 choices.....a 386 kernel and a generic?which i must prefer?
[04:14] <uii1> gibbons: try ntfs and vfat
[04:15] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: wait im downloading it right now. but it's too slow. errr
[04:15] <uii1> ignite: he tried ext3, no go, and isn't -t auto the same as -a?
[04:15] <noelferreira> hi people. need help installing postgresql in edgy. anyone?
[04:15] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Oh, whoops :/
[04:15] <constrictor> !compatible hardware
[04:15] <SushiP> Ugh, I wish this package would work....
[04:15] <Ignite> uii1, not a clue, try man mount ;)
[04:15] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Hm, where do you live? maybe a local mirror of nvidia could work o.o;?
[04:15] <constrictor> !hardware
[04:15] <uii1> ignite: been there, done that ;)
[04:15] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:15] <Ignite> :P
[04:16] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: it also depends on your internet speed :P
[04:16] <uii1> gibbons: ntfs, vfat, msdos, ext2 ...can't think of any others which would work ....this is a windows drive you said?
[04:16] <gibbonsfire4> thanks guys i tried that no joy.  gimme on sec i'm going to check sumn
[04:17] <noelferreira> need help installing postgresql in edgy. anyone?
[04:17] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  im from philippines.  im downloading  1.5 of 11.mb at the speed of 9.0 kbps. i have a broadband connection
[04:18] <ctothej> how can i edit fstab to mount an ext3 partition and have full access to my user account?
[04:18] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: :( there isn't any philippines mirror of nvidia :/
[04:18] <Zuph> Morning Everyone.  I tried installing Ubuntu from the new windows installer, and it worked great, but every time I try to update using the update manager, after I reboot it drops me to the ash terminal.  Any ideas?
[04:18] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: I guess we'll have to wait u.u
[04:18] <ctothej> i already have it mounting the partition, just need the permissioning aspect
[04:18] <jrib> ctothej: you don't, use chmod or chown appropriately on the mounted files
[04:18] <Gosha> !session
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <Gosha> where are the session files stored?
[04:19] <badock> plop
[04:19] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: ok :)
[04:19] <Terminus-> hello. got a question. what's the difference between the linux-server and the linux-686 kernel? the reason i'm asking is because i'm setting up a server on commodity hardware(real cheap. the onboard NIC doesn't even work properly)
[04:19] <variant> ctothej: /dev/hdwhatever /media/whereever auto users,auto,rw 0 0
[04:19] <gibbonsfire4> uiil I checked my dev directory and it shows hda,1,2,5 and hdb,1,5.... I don't know if this info helps.
[04:19] <badock> vous savez avec quoi extrqire des .tar.gz sous windoe ?
[04:19] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: I'm still here though, so just say my name so my screen flashes and I know you've finished downloading it :P
[04:19] <ctothej> variant: hmm, i have everything but the rw. thanks, ill try it out now
[04:19] <uii1> gibbons: are you typing hdb1, or hdb??
[04:19] <jrib> !fr | badock
[04:19] <ubotu> badock: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:19] <buena_swerte> Terminus: all of them have a kernel, server or desktop
[04:19] <badock> oups wrong chan
[04:19] <uii1> lol - we were doing the same thing at the same time :)
[04:20] <gibbonsfire4> hdb
[04:20] <uii1> try ls /dev | grep hdb1
[04:20] <Terminus-> buena_swerte: yes, but what's the difference? is there anything special with the server kernel?
[04:20] <SushiP> I just can't get this package to work....
[04:20] <Jedrick> DARKGuy: ok thank you mean. :) i'll just hola at you when i finish the download
[04:20] <buena_swerte> Terminus- there is probably, like optimizations
[04:20] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Okay xD ^_^ welcome :)
[04:21] <Terminus-> buena_swerte: like different scheduling algos perhaps?
[04:21] <my_haz> has anyone succesful copied a streaming autdio file with $(tail -f /dev/audio > file.pcm) ?
[04:21] <uii1> gib: do you get anything back?
[04:21] <Terminus-> buena_swerte: i'm not running SMP or anything. this box is as cheap as it can get. comparable to a $400 from walmart.
[04:21] <buena_swerte> Terminus possibly, i am not a kernel guru
[04:21] <variant> my_haz: no, there are streamripper programs available
[04:21] <GaiaX11> Which is the command to config java?
[04:21] <Terminus-> buena_swerte: ok. thanks.
[04:22] <my_haz> variant: ya i can do with wget, normally but this is some adobe player thing they are using now for "This american life"
[04:22] <my_haz> variant: so you can't podcast it anymore :(
[04:22] <gibbonsfire4> uiil sorry I can't remember how to make the straight bar and I can't seem to copy what you wrote
[04:22] <ctothej> variant: no dice. i have this in fstab: "/dev/sda2  /media/sda2  ext3 user,auto,rw     0 0" permissions say only root.
[04:22] <buena_swerte> Terminus: go ahead and try to load it anyways..you would not lose much
[04:22] <variant> ctothej: users not user
[04:22] <Terminus-> anybody else who can tell me the difference between linux-server and linux-686? just want to use the most appropriate kernel.
[04:22] <SushiP> Could someone please help me with EciAdsl?
[04:22] <variant> Terminus-: is it going to be a server box?
[04:22] <GaiaX11> How to config java options?
[04:23] <Terminus-> buena_swerte: i know it'll run. i used it before on a core 2 duo.
[04:23] <variant> Gosha: for example?
[04:23] <buena_swerte> GaiaX11: config java? or the command line options to java?
[04:23] <Terminus-> variant: yes. it will be a server box.
[04:23] <uii1> gib: "ls /dev/hdb  /dev/hdb1" (straight bar = shift \ )
[04:23] <gibbonsfire4> uiil got it..I have hdb hdb1,5 and many others
[04:23] <GaiaX11> buena_swerte: the command line
[04:23] <variant> Terminus-: use the server kernel then.. it has server type load optimisations
[04:23] <Terminus-> variant: thanks. and i remember it doesn't have the restricted modules too. hehe
[04:24] <variant> GaiaX11: man java tells you all the options
[04:24] <ctothej> variant: still nada
[04:24] <Terminus-> time to run aptitude.
[04:24] <buena_swerte> GaiaX11: try  java -help  and see
[04:24] <matthew1429> hi guys
[04:24] <Sianis_> hi all?
[04:24] <matthew1429> silly question
[04:24] <variant> ctothej: you probably have to change the ownership of hte files
[04:24] <matthew1429> I just installed ubuntu and am using linux for the first time
[04:24] <matthew1429> I installed vlc
[04:24] <Sianis_> in make menuconfig where can i find the s.m.a.r.t. support?
[04:24] <matthew1429> where do I access it :)
[04:24] <noelferreira> need help. urgent. please. http://pastebin.ca/323584
[04:24] <ctothej> variant: can i do that to the root folder, /media/sda2 ?
[04:25] <variant> my_haz: it should be in your gnome/kde menu
[04:25] <jrib> matthew1429: applications > sound and video
[04:25] <buena_swerte> Sianis_: its a text file, you can possibly grep it and seek for those words?
[04:25] <Gosha> like .. the KDE/XFCE/GNOME session things .. they gotta be stored in some files, right?
[04:25] <matthew1429> it isnt showing up in there
[04:25] <variant> ctothej: yes, with -R to make it recursive (not nessasarily a good idea)
[04:25] <jrib> matthew1429: how did you install it?
[04:25] <Sianis_> buena_swerte: i did'nt find it :(
[04:25] <uii1> gib; and you're sure you mkfs.ext3 on "/dev/hdb"?
[04:25] <matthew1429> through the add/remove section of applications
[04:25] <hector> hola
[04:25] <ctothej> variant: but root still has full access to them...
[04:25] <buena_swerte> Sianis_: what is the s.m.a.r.t. support anyways?
[04:25] <jrib> matthew1429: try 'killall gnome-panel' after hitting alt-f2
[04:26] <variant> ctothej: you cant avoid root having access to them
[04:26] <ctothej> variant: nice
[04:26] <Sianis_> buena_swerte: it's an hdd features
[04:26] <variant> ctothej: so your users can now access the files right?
[04:26] <Sianis_> buena_swerte: it can show me informations about the hdd, like the temperature
[04:26] <remyforbes777> im trying to set up an ubuntu box as an install server,what does the pxelinux.0 file do and how do you configure it
[04:26] <ctothej> variant: users is the group im in by default?
[04:26] <variant> ctothej: iirc then yes
[04:27] <gibbonsfire4> uiil yes but I used hirens boot cd part magic.  is there a way to redo it from terminal
[04:27] <variant> ctothej: yes
[04:27] <G|wRGoS> anybody help me?i install nvidia drivers and now when i start me pc i see 2 choices.....a 386 kernel and a generic?which i must prefer?
[04:27] <matthew1429> jrib thanks
[04:27] <variant> GaiaX11: generic
[04:27] <ctothej> variant: "chown users /media/sda2" right?
[04:27] <buena_swerte> Sianis_: sorry im not much help
[04:28] <gibbonsfire4> uiil the thing that bothers me is it shows up with the ls cmd
[04:28] <knight> 3electronics
[04:28] <variant> ctothej: chmod 775 /media/sda2 would be better it hin
[04:28] <noelferreira> any help please? http://pastebin.ca/323584
[04:28] <buena_swerte> remyforbes777:   PXE is for booting via the network, a tftp, ntfs and dhcp has to be activated to use those features
[04:28] <variant> ctothej: unless you want your users to have full rwx access to all dirs and files undre /media/sda2
[04:29] <ctothej> i want my user account to have full access yes.
[04:29] <ctothej> variant: ^
[04:29] <variant> ctothej: you can do chown -R username:groupname /media/sda2
[04:29] <noelferreira> need urgent help. http://pastebin.ca/323584
[04:29] <remyforbes777> buena_swerte, tftp dhcp is activated, I am trying to figure out how to configure my pxelinux.0 file so that i can boot
[04:29] <G|wRGoS> anybody help me?i install nvidia drivers and now when i start me pc i see 2 choices.....a 386 kernel and a generic?which i must prefer?
[04:30] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: Hmmm
[04:30] <remyforbes777> G|wRGoS, generic
[04:30] <buena_swerte> remyforbes777: that file i believe have to be in the tftp server, make sure your client terminal is able to boot via the pxe
[04:30] <remyforbes777> buena_swerte, it can
[04:30] <melokotona> hola
[04:30] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: There is this issue when you install the nvidia drivers. I have found a solution for it but you can apply it before installing nvidia drivers
[04:31] <uii1> gib: o.k. use mkfs.ext3 -m 0 -j /dev/hdb ... if that doesn't work you may need to use fdisk first to set up the right partition tables.
[04:31] <GaiaX11> The issue is I have more than one java version and I'd like to choose one of them. I did it once but i forgot. It asked me to choose between numbers 1, 2, and 3
[04:31] <variant> ctothej: that will work but I am not an expert, it may not be a safe way to set the permissions
[04:31] <christopherl> someone know how to move the trash can from panel to the menu?
[04:31] <remyforbes777> buena_swerte, do you know if you can do an install using the pxe method with an iso file?
[04:31] <variant> GaiaX11: update-alternatives
[04:31] <uii1> gib: it sounds like somethings off with the file system format
[04:31] <GaiaX11> variant: yes
[04:31] <buena_swerte> remyforbes777: I dont believe so
[04:31] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: before installing nvdia-glx it is wise to do apt-get isntall linux-generic. this way the 386 kernel won't be install along with the nvidia-glx package
[04:31] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: btw.. are you from greece
[04:31] <GaiaX11> variant: How is this?
[04:31] <foutrelis> ?
[04:32] <remyforbes777> buena_swerte, ahh ok, hmmm i need to figure out how then , thanks
[04:32] <variant> !update-alternatives | GaiaX11
[04:32] <buena_swerte> GaiaX11: which java versions do you have?
[04:32] <melokotona> no ingles
[04:32] <gibbonsfire4> uiil in process
[04:32] <ctothej> variant: thank you. i have to commit the chown and chmod commands to memory!
[04:32] <cristophine> Hi all. Does anyone know how to share a printer using gnome? Its possible through the cups web interface, however you cannot commit your settings because root is disabled.
[04:32] <camila> hii
[04:32] <variant> ctothej: read the man pages, they will give you better information (chgrp too)
[04:33] <buena_swerte> ctothej:  get a little notebook to write your own tips and tricks :)
[04:33] <GaiaX11> variant: again. I think you forgot the bot
[04:33] <variant> wha?
[04:33] <Souljah> hey guys
[04:33] <gibbonsfire4> uiil while thats working... i'm using xchat... is there a way to just see what you write to me and not all the rest
[04:33] <ctothej> buena_swerte: good idea. ill open a document and log the useful commands and the such.
[04:34] <variant> GaiaX11: update-alternatives --config java
[04:34] <melokotona> no hay nadie ke hable espaol
[04:34] <Maxi`> heya
[04:34] <Souljah> hey guys
[04:34] <gibbonsfire4> uiil cmd was completed successfully
[04:34] <Souljah> I think i need some help with ubuntu
[04:34] <uii1> gib: i just IM'ed you...
[04:34] <Souljah> a problem with sellinux
[04:34] <Souljah> whatever that is
[04:34] <uii1> wait - you said x-chat...
[04:34] <buena_swerte> GaiaX11: how many versions of java do you have?
[04:35] <variant> im off
[04:35] <variant> later all
[04:35] <riotkitt1e> bye variant
[04:35] <foutrelis> Souljah: What 's the problem?
[04:35] <gibbonsfire4> roger obviously there is a better client
[04:35] <foutrelis> he left :)
[04:35] <gibbonsfire4> what are you using
[04:35] <G|wRGoS> fourtelis yes.......greece
[04:36] <riotkitt1e> ooh am i in here on my laptop too?  <just realized she had the 1 in her nick>
[04:36] <foutrelis> kai ego :P
[04:36] <kolla_> is there some clever way of building ruby packages for ubuntu?
[04:36] <uii1> gib: gaim
[04:36] <G|wRGoS> eftixws...enas ellinas
[04:36] <foutrelis> miaou
[04:36] <eddy___> hi. i wish to dual boot Windows Vista with Ubuntu. Installed Vista, no need to cut my partition. Should i cut my new partition under PRIMARY or LOGICAL ?
[04:36] <uii1> i just sent you a chat-invite with x-chat - did you get it?
[04:37] <foutrelis> eddy___: I would say primary
[04:37] <jatt> eddy___: AFAIK primary should work just fine
[04:37] <gibbonsfire4> uiil thanks i'll have to educate myself and aquire that prgrm....neg on the invite
[04:37] <eddy___> foutrelis & jatt : thanks!!
[04:37] <fotoflo_> hey, i just bought a new cellphone its GPRS and GSM, does anyone know if it will work in the US?
[04:37] <noelferreira> need urgent help. http://pastebin.ca/323584
[04:37] <G|wRGoS> fourtelis poia akrivws einai i diafora metaksi twn 2?
[04:37] <christopherl> somone know how to remove the update manager icon on the top panel?
[04:37] <knight> hi where can i find good electronics ircs?
[04:38] <gibbonsfire4> uiil your cmd did work though what should i do next
[04:38] <Maxi`> did anything change with the "flashplugin-nonfree" ? The last time I set up a PC with ubuntu Edy Eft it worked properly,  but this time I get a message while installing "flashplugin-nonfree"   ......  Here it is:   http://sial.org/pbot/22546?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21
[04:38] <iuui> gib: try mounting it
[04:38] <Narcissus> hi guys: i installed 6.10 via cd but now have the dvd. how can i change from cd to dvd in the 'software sources'? or is there any need to?
[04:38] <graulich> how do I open network-manager-gnome? I've installed it but it doesn't appear anywhere in applications...
[04:38] <iuui> gaim should be in applications - internet - "gaim"
[04:38] <riotkittie> ah. silly screen. and my inability to remember whats running  where
[04:38] <iuui> it's an IM/IRC/etc rolled into one.
[04:38] <pablo_> why is it sayed ubuntu it is not totally free?
[04:38] <Gosha> how do i start my computer with another DM?
[04:38] <riotkittie> graulich: did you restart X after the install? or create a launcher for nm-applet?
[04:39] <Ignite> Maxi`, Firefox can install the flash plugin automatically, just go to a page with flash, like youtube.com, then click "get missing plugins".
[04:39] <gibbonsfire4> uiil i got back can't find hdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:39] <riotkittie> DM?
[04:39] <AlexC_> pablo_I don't understand what you mean
[04:39] <iuui> gib: hold  on a sec.
[04:39] <Gosha> .. since i just installed kubuntu .. i stil want to be able to use anothe DM .. like GDM or the xfce one ..
[04:39] <Maxi`> Ignite, heh,  thats exactly what I did the last time,  but it won't work ... some guys here told me that I did it wrong and forces me using the "flashplugin-nonfree"
[04:40] <graulich> riotkittie: didn't restart x... need I restart all of x just to make it available?
[04:40] <Maxi`> Ignite, when I installed that plugin the way you said,  firefox crashed everytime I came to a website with flash content
[04:40] <AlexC_> Gosha: you mean DE, Desktop Envirnment - such as KDE, Gnome and XFCE
[04:40] <Gosha> AlexC_:  yes
[04:40] <villindesign> Is the alternate install CD a live CD? I think I need it because my friend has >192 MB, but I want him to try it first...
[04:40] <foutrelis> villindesign: no
[04:41] <jatt> Maxi`: you can download the last flash plugin installer from the adobe site it will detect firefox and install it in the right directory
[04:41] <AlexC_> villindesign: yes, called the Alternate CD
[04:41] <AlexC_> villindesign: sorry, read your question wrong
[04:41] <Ignite> Maxi`, that's strange... I don't have that problem, you're running Edgy right?
[04:41] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  man dangit it stopped downloading on 53% .. can you gimme the links again :(
[04:41] <foutrelis> villindesign: It is a text interface installer
[04:41] <oFF-beAt> ubuntu sure gives weird msgs.. last night while i was installin this gave me an error "there was no space left" while i gave it a whole 80gb free
[04:41] <Maxi`> Ignite, yep
[04:41] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: :( okay
[04:41] <oFF-beAt> *gB
[04:41] <Gosha> AlexC_: or wait .. no i dont .. i mean the DM, as in .. GDM . KDM a.s.o
[04:41] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7184.html
[04:41] <villindesign> OK - Thanks
[04:41] <iuui> gib: you need to add the entry to fstab: /dev/hdb1    /hardrive     ext3    defaults        1 1
[04:42] <AlexC_> Gosha: to install KDE, in terminal type "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" or XFCE type "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[04:42] <riotkittie> graulich: some people seem to have to restart X to get it to show. but try nm-applet from a term, first
[04:42] <Ignite> Maxi`, very weird, although firefox crashes a lot on Ubuntu for me at the minute, never used to, I actually switched to Opera, but Adobe got clever and only supports flash 9 in mozilla browsers. -_-
[04:42] <Narcissus> Maxi`: try http://www.jpierre.com/node/412 . that fixed my problems with flash
[04:42] <foutrelis> villindesign: Try Xubuntu for < 192 ram
[04:42] <Gosha> ... install?
[04:42] <wnoise_> greetings.  Just installed Edgy Eft, and I seem to be getting very unpredictable behaviour from alacarte - drag/dropping items to move them across sub-menus doesn't always work, creating new menu items loses selected icons, doesn't update menus, etc.  Is this a known issue or am I missing something?
[04:42] <AlexC_> Gosha: well you want to install it don't you ... ?
[04:42] <Gosha> and why aptitude?
[04:42] <villindesign> Oh-  good idea, the live cd works for >192MB?
[04:42] <Gosha> no, i have them allreadu
[04:42] <Gosha> u
[04:42] <Gosha> y*
[04:42] <knight>  hi where can i find good electronics chat rooms?
[04:42] <riotkittie> try sudo apt-get install GDM ... and so on.
[04:42] <AlexC_> Gosha: so what do you want to do?
[04:42] <fotoflo_> hey all ive just tried to setup a proftpd and a samba server on my ubuntu box - neither are working... can anyone help me?
[04:43] <Judicata> wnoise_: I can tell you that alacarte is fishy sometimes.
[04:43] <riotkittie> Gosha: why use multiple display managers, if you dont mind me asking
[04:43] <graulich> riotkittie: I run nm-applet and a little icon shows up in the tray... is that what it's supposed to do?
[04:43] <riotkittie> graulich:  yes
[04:43] <Gosha> .. both gnome kde and xfce .. but, i don't want KDM to start by default .. or at least make me able to change which on e to start
[04:43] <graulich> cool thanks riotkittie
[04:43] <gibbonsfire4> uiil i have no idea where to start with cmd.  I tried to edit that from the window but it is write protected
[04:43] <foutrelis> villindesign: It should work. It says minimum 128 mb :)
[04:43] <Gosha> i just did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:43] <AlexC_> Gosha: if you want to boot into XFC, just change the Session to xfce
[04:43] <wnoise_> judicata> ... and I would suspect there is no alternative for menu editing at this point?
[04:44] <gibbonsfire4> I'm such a noob...
[04:44] <AlexC_> Gosha: same with KDE, just select the KDE session and it will login to KDE
[04:44] <eddy___> I am using cfdisk to cut, so its call "LINUX" under cfdisk right? last time i used partition magic, and it was linux ext
[04:44] <Gosha> AlexC_:  but it still starts the ktread .. that's what's bugging me
[04:44] <riotkittie> thne you dont want multiple display managers. you want to change sessions.
[04:44] <Judicata> wnoise_: not to my knowledge.
[04:44] <Gosha> kthread*
[04:44] <iuui> gib: lol :) so am i, we'll band together o.k.? unfortunately i only know the hardest editor to use :D
[04:44] <iuui> vi
[04:44] <iuui> hold on a sec...
[04:44] <seshomaru123> which codec do i need to watch a wma?
[04:44] <hjmills> iuui, vim for the win
[04:44] <AlexC_> !wmv
[04:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:45] <oFF-beAt> my keyboard acts really weird when i use vi
[04:45] <oFF-beAt> if i'm forced to use terminal.. i use pico
[04:45] <iuui> hjmills: gothcya :) thanks. what other alternatives are there for easy, quick use? i tried joe, but ubuntu doesn't havfe it
[04:45] <AlexC_> seshomaru123: check the links Ubotu have,
[04:45] <foutrelis> oFF-beAt: pico power! :P
[04:45] <AlexC_> s/have/gave
[04:45] <hjmills> oFF-beAt, thats because vim uses the letter keys as shortcuts - press a or i to get into insert mode where you can type normally
[04:45] <villindesign> foutrelis: says 128MB to run live CD; 192 MB to install...
[04:45] <fotoflo_> hey all ive just tried to setup a proftpd and a samba server on my ubuntu box - neither are working... can anyone help me?
[04:46] <hjmills> iuui, nano is good - use ctrl+O to sav and Ctrl+X to quit
[04:46] <oFF-beAt> hjmills, yes i know.. but pressing those keys dun help
[04:46] <unimatrix9> hi there, hows it going?
[04:46] <riotkittie> pico, ftw! though i am going to run vimtutor some decade and get acquainted with vim
[04:46] <gibbonsfire4> im in
[04:46] <villindesign> foutrelis: I think then I can test it, and then download the alternate ( 64MB) to install
[04:46] <iuui> hjmills: thanks.
[04:46] <Seraphim> Hello everone.. can anyone please help me with a little problem I have installing ubuntu?
[04:46] <oFF-beAt> i cud enter abt 2 letters n it'll go wild!
[04:46] <AlexC_> Seraphim: ask the question. Don't ask the ask!!
[04:46] <foutrelis> villindesign: The desktop CD allows you to try Xubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of CD is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 128MB of RAM to install from this CD.
[04:47] <AlexC_> s/the/to
[04:47] <oFF-beAt> my keyboard has never been the same ever since i spilt pepsi on it !
[04:47] <oFF-beAt> :D
[04:47] <foutrelis> villindesign: It should be ok to install from the Desktop CD
[04:47] <Seraphim> sorry.. I get a "buffer I/O error on device dm-3 in block ....." when I try to install.. repeats itself several times, and then I get to the desktop..
[04:47] <seshomaru123> ?
[04:47] <villindesign> foutrelis: "To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM." - That is from the Xubuntu site
[04:47] <unimatrix9> what could i use to track my internet traffic realtime? ( bash shell )
[04:48] <Gosha> am i not explaining good enough? .. see .. i download ubuntu .. and installed it .. then i did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop .. and it changed the startup thing to another DM xdm, or whatever it's called for xfce .. but i rarely use xfce.. however i thought i'd try the kubuntu desktop .. so i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop .. and now the dm changed to kdm .. and it started allways starting the kthread and stuff
[04:48] <Gosha> that is linked to kdm, whatever session i start .. since they're started before i start the session anyway .. so now i wonder .. how can i change back to GDM? or make less stuff starta at startup?
[04:48] <villindesign> foutrelis: Think that means I need two CDs
[04:48] <Gosha> downloaded*
[04:48] <flathm> hey everyone... just installed ubuntu here and I'm trying to do some development.  When I compile a project (that compiles on several other linuxes and oses) I get a strange libtool error: "libtool: link: CURRENT `Debug.lo' must be a nonnegative integer" anyone know what might be going on?
[04:48] <AlexC_> Gosha: I understand, hold on
[04:48] <toast-> what is the command to display my local ip address?
[04:48] <DARKGuy> toast-: ifconfig
[04:48] <unimatrix9> Gosha google for ubuntu reinstall gdm
[04:48] <AlexC_> ifconfig
[04:48] <toast-> thanks
[04:49] <G|wRGoS> fourtelis akous?
[04:49] <Gosha> .. is gdm gone?
[04:49] <foutrelis> villindesign: Well try to install from the live CD and if that fails try the alternate cd :)
[04:49] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: dn eides to prive mou?
[04:49] <G|wRGoS> sou ksanagrapsa gia afto
[04:49] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: dn eida kati
[04:49] <docmur> Hello all
[04:50] <riotkittie> no, gdm should be there.
[04:50] <LinTux> I need a driver for my Nvidia 7300LE PCI-E card, any ideas.
[04:50] <AlexC_> Gosha: sudo gedit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:50] <AlexC_> Gosha: For KDM, the file should read /usr/bin/kdm; for GDM, the file should read /usr/sbin/gdm
[04:50] <buena_swerte> flathm: does it tell you which Makefile that error is created from? check that Makefile
[04:50] <AlexC_> Gosha: more info: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[04:50] <stoone> hi, can someone help me with cpufreq stuff?
[04:51] <G|wRGoS> afou sto boot screen mou emfanizei kai tis 2 epiloges den tha mporw na epileksw to kernel generic?i exei dimiourgithei kapoio provlima?
[04:51] <flathm> buena_swerte, yeah I know where it's coming from but I really don't think it's a problem with the makefile... I can compile this project on a bunch of other machines just fine
[04:51] <AlexC_> stoone: no. Ask the question first
[04:51] <docmur> okay ummmm I'm running my comp at a rez and the stupid rez has a gateway which you need to  log into after like 5 min of no activity, I'm wondering if I can get an app to over come that and send like a stay awake package to trick the gateway I'm still active
[04:51] <Gosha> okay, so now if i change the kdm to gdm .. wil it stop runing the kthread? ..
[04:51] <Odd_Bloke> I'm having a problem. eth0 is connected via DHCP to the internet. I wish to change eth1 to a static IP address to connect directly to my laptop. However, when I do this (which works fine), my internet access disappears, despite the fact that the relevant interface is set up correctly and still reported to have a DHCP'd IP address by ifconfig. Anyone know what's going on?
[04:51] <shallwe> hi, i need help, someno please?
[04:51] <AlexC_> shallwe: just ask the question!
[04:51] <shallwe> here http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3305/screenshot5ug.png
[04:51] <Odd_Bloke> docmur: You could do something like just running a ping in the background...
[04:51] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: einai kainourgia i egkatastasi sou?
[04:51] <AlexC_> why do people ask to ask ... just ask away!
[04:52] <stoone> AlexC_: my cpufreq thing worked well in the days when i userd gentoo, now in ubuntu, it sees only one frequency to choose from, what could be the problem?
[04:52] <G|wRGoS> oooo yes
[04:52] <G|wRGoS> 6.10
[04:52] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: tha se peiraze ena reinstall? :D
[04:52] <shallwe> say: no system found of tree
[04:52] <AlexC_> stoone: I have no idea sorry,
[04:52] <shallwe> lyke that
[04:52] <buena_swerte> flathm: its beyong me now then, am still studying the autoconfig, maketools book
[04:52] <AlexC_> Gosha: I can't see why it would start it =) try it and see
[04:52] <docmur> okay I've thought of that, what about an app called etherwake, it sends magic wake on lan packets ???
[04:52] <Seraphim> When AlexC_ people ask to ask to be polite..
[04:52] <shallwe> im from brazil
[04:53] <Gosha> yosh, now i'll see then ..
[04:53] <Gosha> kill x!
[04:53] <G|wRGoS> katse...kai reinstall na kanw
[04:53] <Odd_Bloke> docmur: Have you tried it?
[04:53] <G|wRGoS> otan perasw tous drivers tha ksanaperastei to 386
[04:53] <harsha-> Hi! has anyone faced network issues with the 2.6.20-2 (feisty fawn kernel) ? It loads the forcedeth driver by default. What really happens is that at some point the network just freezes.
[04:53] <docmur> what the ping
[04:53] <AlexC_> Seraphim: comming in a support channel, askign "Can someone help me with a problem" how can we help? They ask no question, or give details about this "problem"
[04:53] <TEGA> r wmgitalia.azzurra.org
[04:53] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: kane ena reinstall kai meta PRIN valeis tous drivers, dose se terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[04:54] <Odd_Bloke> Seraphim: It's not considered good IRC etiquette.
[04:54] <buena_swerte> harsha-: am curious how do you know that was the module causing the errors?
[04:54] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: etsi meta dn tha perastei o 286 :)
[04:54] <foutrelis> *386
[04:54] <docmur> I tired the ping idea yes and it worked.
[04:54] <parumi> hi, is there any known problem that prevents herd2 to install to a macbook? i could install herd1 but when i tried herd2 i run into freezing modprobes.
[04:54] <shallwe> when i try install ubuntu, that say: No system of tree founds
[04:54] <shallwe> http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3305/screenshot5ug.png
[04:54] <Odd_Bloke> docmur: Problem solved.
[04:54] <docmur> can I tell my profile to run a background ping when I log in
[04:54] <docmur> ????
[04:54] <PaPel> hmm wie kto moe jak wej na swojego ntfs c: z windowsem bo po3buje co skopiowa ?
[04:55] <Odd_Bloke> docmur: Add it to .bashrc or the X equivalent...
[04:55] <harsha-> buena_swerte, I am not sure myself. I just said that it loads the forcedeth module for my network card.
[04:55] <PaPel> a ubuntu nie widzi domylnie ntfsa tak jak fatw
[04:55] <docmur> k
[04:55] <docmur> thanks
[04:55] <G|wRGoS> fourtelis
[04:55] <G|wRGoS> Reading state information... Done
[04:55] <G|wRGoS> linux-generic is already the newest version.
[04:55] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: meta to reinstall
[04:55] <G|wRGoS> exw idi to linux-generic perasmeno...apo tin egkatastasi
[04:55] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: tora exei idi perasei o 386
[04:55] <Kensey> What's the preferred way to edit the GNOME menus in edgy?  Is it still Alacarte?
[04:55] <riotkittie> why does Fluxbox hate me so :\
[04:55] <uiiu> gib: what happened?
[04:55] <buena_swerte> harsha-: if you think that causes the problem and you dont need that module, you can always remove it with  rmmod
[04:55] <AlexC_> Kensey: yes
[04:56] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: aw, why?
[04:56] <pmc_asad_> anyone know why nvidia chipset and LAN won't work properly in ubuntu 6.06??
[04:56] <harsha-> buena_swerte,  I was wondering if it is this: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-12/msg00479.html
[04:56] <G|wRGoS> ma kai prin to 386 ypirxe to linux-generic?i mipws den katalavainw ti mou ginete ? :p
[04:56] <riotkittie> my menus mysteriously vanished
[04:56] <harsha-> buena_swerte, I need the module for my network card! :D
[04:56] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: o.o;
[04:56] <AlexC_> G|wRGoS: this is a english support channel =)
[04:56] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: do they exist in .fluxbox/menu ? o.o
[04:57] <G|wRGoS> oops
[04:57] <parumi> any macintel expert here? anyone have tried herd2 or kernel 2.6.20 on this arch?
[04:57] <shallwe> i got, tanks, i forget, the ubuntu dont use raiser hehe, just ext3
[04:57] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: I ll be @ e-pcmag.gr chat :)
[04:57] <eddy___> hi.. I need to cut a fat32 using cfdisk. What is the Type no for fat32? e.g 82 for Linux Swap. So for Fat32?
[04:57] <hjmills> shallwe, you can use reiser if you want to
[04:57] <Seraphim> When I boot ubuntu for 64bit pc from the cd, I get an error "Buffer I/O error in device dm-3 om block... "wich reapeats itself a number of times before the desktop shows up.. when I try to install the installer then either crashes, or hangs when it's trying to figure out what partitions are available.. can someone please tell me why this means, and how it can be fixed?
[04:57] <Kensey> eddy___: fdisk will tell you
[04:57] <hjmills> eddy___, i think you can get cfdisk to tell you the diff types
[04:58] <gibbonsfire4> iuui are you back you seemed to have dissapeared
[04:58] <Kensey> I believe if you hit 'L' it will list partition types it knows about
[04:58] <stoone> anyone other can help me? my cpufreq thing worked well in the days when i used gentoo, now in ubuntu, it sees only one frequency to choose from, what could be the problem?
[04:58] <AlexC_> eddy___: vfat
[04:58] <hjmills> Seraphim, did you check the iso md5 and check the burn?
[04:58] <riotkittie> DARKGuy: nope
[04:58] <eddy___> there is one call "w95 Fat32" and also "w95 Fat32 (LBA) not sure which one
[04:58] <buena_swerte> harsha-: well you got to use whatever it takes to make stuff works, not perfect but..thats how to cookie crumbles
[04:58] <G|wRGoS> fourtelis server adress?
[04:58] <AlexC_> eddy___: it's vfat
[04:58] <uiiu> gib: yeah, i'm here
[04:58] <gibbonsfire4> I tried offering you a direct chat it says its waiting for your response
[04:58] <Seraphim> I didn't download an iso, I ordered CDs from the ubuntu page
[04:58] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  still there? it's done already
[04:58] <DARKGuy> riotkittie: :/... it went poof huh.... any way to recover it withany file recover app?
[04:59] <pmc_asad_> anyone have trouble with nforce chipset in 6.06?
[04:59] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Cool!
[04:59] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: It is not an IRC channel. You register at e-pcmag.gr and then you come into the chat ;)
[04:59] <harsha-> pmc_asad, Yep.
[04:59] <Kensey> eddy___, that depends on whether your disk is being used in LBA mode or not.  but I think AlexC is right, you should use the type code for vfat
[04:59] <uiiu> <cursing x-chat>
[04:59] <gibbonsfire4> ok i guess this forum is it
[04:59] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: flashchat or something :)
[04:59] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: can you kindly repeat whats the problem when you install?
[04:59] <harsha-> pmc_asad, but wait, I run the development version of Ubuntu (Feisty fawn to be)
[04:59] <andrew22> Python Issue...installed python + apache2, Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.2.8 Python/2.4.4c1 Server at 192.168.1.106 Port 80.....i try to open test.py > NOT Found error
[04:59] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Now open up a terminal and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" that'll kill X and leave you on the terminal, so, login and use bitchx to come back
[04:59] <gosha> .. Fail.
[04:59] <eddy___> kensey & alexc, finding now...
[04:59] <AlexC_> harsha-: #ubuntu+1
[04:59] <hjmills> harsha-, check #ubuntu+1
[05:00] <harsha-> AlexC_, hjmills , thanks! I'll do that
[05:00] <Gosha> .. i changed that default desktop file .. and now it didn't start at all
[05:00] <Jedrick> DARKGuy:  ok
[05:00] <Gosha> .. now i'm on the xfce desktop
[05:00] <andrew22> anyone knoe much about python herE?
[05:00] <AlexC_> andrew22: #python
[05:00] <Kensey> apparently my cat likes Ubuntu.  Or maybe it's just that my laptop is warm :)
[05:00] <iuui> gib: try "/chat iuui"
[05:00] <Seraphim> buena_swerte: I get an error "Buffer I/O error on device dm-3"
[05:00] <pmc_asad_> harsha- sometimes the lan works and sometimes it doesn't
[05:00] <andrew22> thx lemme register myself
[05:00] <mike1o> i have a tv card with its own audio output device & would like to connect that to my current main output... how would i go about doing that?
[05:00] <eddy___> I cant find vfat under the type option??
[05:00] <harsha-> pmc_asad, Yep, thats exactly what I am facing!
[05:01] <Kensey> hm
[05:01] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: what is the machine you are loading it on? what type of hardisk?
[05:01] <pmc_asad_> oh, any ideas?
[05:01] <foutrelis> eddy___: If you are refering to linux partiotions their type is ext3
[05:01] <Gosha> .. what was that default file now again?
[05:01] <gibbonsfire4> done says its waiting
[05:01] <foutrelis> eddy___: *partitions
[05:01] <\Floppy\> ah sehr schn
[05:01] <AlexC_> foutrelis: there are a lot more than just ext3 :P
[05:01] <iuui> me too :) lol - you don't have gaim? it should've come i nstalled with ubuntu....
[05:01] <buena_swerte> Gosha: default file for what?
[05:01] <eddy___>  foutrelis: i need to cut a shared partition...
[05:01] <Gosha> desktop manager
[05:02] <eddy___> i mean for both Windows Vista and Ubuntu
[05:02] <foutrelis> AlexC_: ext3 is the most popular I think :)
[05:02] <tristan_> hello all
[05:02] <Seraphim> buena_swerte: can I PM you?
[05:02] <Gosha> i changed it to /<something>/sbin/gdm .. but it totally didn't work
[05:02] <buena_swerte> Gosha: i dont know of such thing
[05:02] <AlexC_> Gosha:  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:02] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: sure
[05:02] <AlexC_> Gosha: hold on,
[05:02] <Gosha> .. also .. i can't do the xstart --:0-7 thing
[05:02] <tristan_> I use kubuntu and the volume of my microphone is really low even if with kmix I put everything regarding microphon,e to the max
[05:02] <riotkittie> !GDM
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GDM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <foutrelis> eddy___: What tool are you using to "cut" your partition?
[05:02] <tristan_> Is there anyway to increase the volume more
[05:03] <eddy___> foutrelis: cfdisk
[05:03] <AlexC_> Gosha: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde "The default can always be changed later by modifying the /etc/X11/default-display-manager file. For KDM, the file should read /usr/bin/kdm; for GDM, the file should read /usr/sbin/gdm"
[05:03] <tristan_> and I use ALSA for soud
[05:03] <harsha-> pmc_asad, I am checking on #ubuntu+1
[05:03] <stapol> eddy___, use partition magic
[05:03] <Jedrick> darkguy u there?
[05:03] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: but im not registered so dont know if it will work on freenode
[05:03] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: yep
[05:03] <pmc_asad_> harsha- ok let me know
[05:03] <harsha-> pmc_asad, Not sure. But LKLM has similar stories.
[05:03] <Gosha> oh .. usr sbin ..
[05:03] <AlexC_> ;)
[05:03] <harsha-> pmc_asad,  http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-12/msg00479.html
[05:03] <Jedrick> DARKGuy im on bitchx now. in this dark monster box.. hehe
[05:03] <Odd_Bloke> I'm having a problem. eth0 is connected via DHCP to the internet. I wish to change eth1 to a static IP address to connect directly to my laptop. However, when I do this (which works fine), my internet access disappears, despite the fact that the relevant interface is set up correctly and still reported to have a DHCP'd IP address by ifconfig. Anyone know what's going on?
[05:03] <Seraphim> buena_swerte: didn't seem to.. I'm using a AMD athalon 64 bit 3200+ , 1 gig ram, WD HD 740 gig, SATA
[05:03] <riotkittie> Partition magic is vile. Use the gparted live cd, or teh gparted live usb.
[05:03] <gibbonsfire4> iuui are you there
[05:03] <tristan_> shoud I swithch to OSS to increase the sound?
[05:04] <iuui> yup.
[05:04] <Gosha> or wait .. it says that
[05:04] <eddy___> stapol, i cant use it in Windows Vista.. :( not compatible
[05:04] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Hehe, don't fear it xD... now, you have up to 6 terminals and you can switch between them using control+alt+F1 thru F6. We're going to use terminal 2 (control+alt+F2) to install the nvidia driver
[05:04] <Gosha> "/usr/sbin/gdm"
[05:04] <lukas__> hey all
[05:04] <AlexC_> Gosha: yes it does,
[05:04] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: am a low cost guy, im only on a P3..i have seen lots of people here complain about SATA..so I wonder if thats what causes your issues?
[05:04] <lukas__> can someone help me getting the realplayer work under ubuntu edgy
[05:04] <lukas__> ?
[05:04] <Gosha> .. but it won't start
[05:04] <mike1o> i have a tv card with its own audio output device & would like to connect that to my current main output... how would i go about doing that?
[05:05] <AlexC_> Gosha: what do you mean, wont start?
[05:05] <Gosha> i can't do ctrl+alt+f7
[05:05] <gibbonsfire4> iuui i could edit the file in question if I could make it not read only.  It seems ubuntu is set up to prevent my kids (and me) from messing up the computer.
[05:05] <AlexC_> Gosha: it still shows the kde one?
[05:05] <Gosha> and it showed up tty1 at startup
[05:05] <foutrelis> eddy___: Acronis disk director? You could resize the windows partition :)
[05:05] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Now, do you know where did you save the nvidia driver you downloaded, or firefox did it automatically ?
[05:05] <lukas__> always when I'm running the realplay.bin file it says
[05:05] <AlexC_> gibbonsfire4: use sudo
[05:05] <Gosha> and when i do startx --:1 it doesn't start
[05:05] <lukas__>  ./realplay
[05:05] <lukas__> /home/lukas/Desktop/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:05] <lukas__> anyone has an idea what to do?
[05:05] <DARKGuy> Acronis disk director is a great program
[05:05] <Jedrick> DARKGuy yep
[05:05] <foutrelis> eddy___: I have never resized a partition with cfdisk
[05:05] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: how considerate of it. you use sudo beforehand
[05:05] <Kensey> lukas: it's looking for a shared library you don't have
[05:06] <Gosha> as in .. it's like the gdm is gone :O
[05:06] <iuui> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:06] <zYe> help installing source got this error: The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[05:06] <lukas__> Gosha: I see this.
[05:06] <eddy___> :( i dont want to restart my comp and instal another program...
[05:06] <lukas__> there is no library like that
[05:06] <buena_swerte> lukas: do a locate for that file if it does really exist, and make sure it is in the PATH
[05:06] <lukas__> I tried apt-cache search libgdk
[05:06] <lukas__> but it didn't find anything
[05:06] <Jedrick> DARKGuy what will i do now. i already open terminal 2
[05:06] <lukas__> thanks buena_swerte
[05:06] <AlexC_> Gosha: sudo apt-get install -reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:06] <hanasaki> what is the version after edgy and when is it due out?
[05:06] <eddy___> gosh.. anyone here can help?
[05:06] <AlexC_> Gosha: I think thats how you reinsatll things forcefully...hum,
[05:06] <christopherl> I now have my Ubuntu perfectly set with configurations and programs. I wonder if I can burn my current Ubuntu to a DVD or CD?
[05:06] <Gosha> E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall]  is not known
[05:06] <Jedrick> dangit the fonts are too big.. errr
[05:06] <pmc_asad_> harsha- If I turn off my pc and unplug the power source for about aminute, it works after that. But it seems like a stupid solution
[05:07] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: Okay, then in the second terminal login as always, then type "cd Desktop", press return, and then "chmod +x NV". Don't press return but press the TAB key. That should auto complete the name of the file and then press return.
[05:07] <Jedrick> i can't keep up
[05:07] <AlexC_> Gosha: didn't think it would work ... hold on let me see if I can find command to reinstall
[05:07] <riotkittie> Gosha: head to ubuntuforums.org and search for GDM or "gdm problems" or "gdm gone" or "gdm reset" .. i have seen a couple of posts about similar GDM issues, and you'll probably find a fix
[05:07] <Seraphim> buena_swerte: I only have one HD and it's not in RAID.. when I try to mount them when the liveCD is booted I get an error that it can't create mountpoint or something like that..
[05:07] <gibbonsfire4> yes but I have to use the terminal for that and I am weak on the terminal...Can you tell me the cmd to take write protection off that file so I can edit it.
[05:07] <harsha-> pmc_asad, I guess I have the same issue.  But I reboot my ADSL router to get back my connection.
[05:07] <lukas__> buena_swerte: I added the library to the $PATH
[05:07] <riotkittie> i would search and link for you but i am not in X at the moment
[05:07] <Kensey> eddy___, one thing to note -- you're not trying to just resize a partition with data are you?
[05:07] <lukas__> but it still says that it can't find the library
[05:07] <lukas__> $ locate libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[05:07] <lukas__> /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[05:07] <lukas__> /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1000.6
[05:08] <lukas__> $ export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib
[05:08] <Kensey> is it an empty partition?
[05:08] <lukas__> $ ./realplay
[05:08] <lukas__> /home/lukas/Desktop/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:08] <lukas__> any idea?
[05:08] <hanasaki> what ftp site can be used to download ubuntu iso's?  there is no gui here so all that can be used is text mode ntftp
[05:08] <foutrelis> Kensey: I think he is trying to resize his windows' partition
[05:08] <pmc_asad_> harsha- I'm on a LAN in my colony. I can't do that. Lets hope they fix the problem in fiesty fawn
[05:08] <Jedrick> DARKGuy  can you give me a favor? can we talk to the other channel coz like the fonts are too big in here and the room is so crowdy and i can't keep up
[05:08] <eddy___> kensey, good question.. defrag it.. and cut out empty part.. thanks for the friendly reminder
[05:08] <Kensey> yeah, and if he has Vista installed on, could it even be FAT32?
[05:08] <AlexC_> Gosha: sudo apt-get install --reinstall works ... I think you only did 1 -
[05:09] <DARKGuy> Jedrick: okay, let's go to #jedrick :P
[05:09] <matteo> hi all
[05:09] <Jedrick> hehe
[05:09] <AlexC_> hello
[05:09] <Kensey> are you sure it's FAT3 rather than ntfs eddy___ ?
[05:09] <Jedrick> k
[05:09] <G|wRGoS> how can i open a window wghere i have root control?
[05:09] <harsha-> pmc_asad_, Ah, lets hope it gets fixed
[05:09] <Kensey> *FAT32
[05:09] <lukas__> buena_swerte: any idea?
[05:09] <riotkittie> G|wRGoS:  sudo -i
[05:09] <sam1234> New with Ubuntu. Live CD starts but can not start installation. After 15 everything is jammed. What is the problem?
[05:09] <iuui> gibbons: i see. easiest way: "chmod 777 /etc/fstab" but you have to change it back afterwards
[05:09] <pmc_asad_> harsha- so far the only distro I have tried that automatically pics it up properly is Mandriva one and PCLinuxOS
[05:09] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: thats really odd that it cannot mount drives..maybe you need to get a 64bit version of ubuntu
[05:09] <foutrelis> sam1234: how much ram do you have?
[05:09] <eddy___> kensey, yeap.. i believe i have to create a fat32 to share among vista and ubuntu
[05:09] <sam1234> 256
[05:09] <Seraphim> buena_swerte: I have.. the 64bit version.
[05:09] <foutrelis> sam1234: you may want to try the alternate cd
[05:09] <Kensey> oh, so this will be a shared drive
[05:10] <Kensey> (partition)
[05:10] <sam1234> I've tryed 6.06 and 6.10
[05:10] <Seraphim> buena_swerte: would it be a point trying the 32bit one?
[05:10] <lukas__> buena_swerte: can you help me please?
[05:10] <buena_swerte> lukas: the libraries are LD_CONFIG?  not PATH ..i forget myself
[05:10] <Ignite> sam1234, 256MB is plenty enough for Ubuntu, do you have any exotic hardware?
[05:10] <Kensey> I think you actually can read-write ntfs in Linux now
[05:10] <harsha-> pmc_asad_,  I tried FC5 from another partition to see whether it was with the connection or with my PC. I noticed that it was with my system.
[05:10] <hanasaki> what is the code name for the dist after edgy?
[05:10] <foutrelis> hagabaka: feisty
[05:10] <Kensey> or is that still considered dangerously experimental?
[05:10] <AlexC_> Feisty Fawn
[05:10] <sam1234> This is HP nx6110 laptop
[05:10] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: it would not hurt to try it, i'd go for it
[05:10] <matteo> where release names are get?
[05:10] <harsha-> pmc_asad_, btw, what kernel do you run? 'Cause I never faced it before. I only faced it after my upgrade to Feisty.
[05:11] <AlexC_> !feisty | hanasaki
[05:11] <ubotu> hanasaki: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <lukas__> buena_swerte: can you help me please?
[05:11] <artur> czesc
[05:11] <dv5237> how can i start ubuntu whitout X so i can adjust some thing for X
[05:11] <hanasaki> thanks AlexC_  .. is there a URL that I can use to ftp it directly?...
[05:11] <buena_swerte> lukas:  hand on, i have to look for my notes on where to put libraries..which path..
[05:11] <artur> hello
[05:11] <riotkittie> Kensey: heh. its still beta, and many still warn against it.
[05:11] <pmc_asad_> harsha- that sucks, but my LAn works fine in mandriva, I think it has something to do with the forcedeth drivers
[05:11] <foutrelis> dv5237: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:11] <Seraphim> buena_swerte: ok.. and I'll try fooling around with the bios settings for the SATA disk too.. thanks a bundle for your help!
[05:11] <AlexC_> hanasaki: I'm not sure, pop into #ubuntu+1 and talk to them
[05:11] <artur> jest ktos z olski ???????????
[05:11] <Kensey> I have my WinXP partition mounted ro in Ubuntu :)
[05:11] <foutrelis> dv5237: that would stop the display manager and get you into command line :)
[05:11] <artur> Polski
[05:11] <hanasaki> thanks
[05:11] <hanasaki> bbl
[05:12] <harsha-> pmc_asad_, what is the version of your Ubuntu kernel?
[05:12] <ubuntu> hey guys im on the live cd my computer wont boot
[05:12] <buena_swerte> Seraphim: sorry im not much help to you today..keep trying and good luck
[05:12] <ubuntu> can soemone help me out with a little grub configuration
[05:12] <pmc_asad_> harsha- not sure. Whatever comes default with 6.06
[05:12] <dv5237> foutrelis: after typing ctrl+alt+backspace i quess?
[05:12] <Odd_Bloke> dv5237: You could probably change what you wanted and then use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart X.
[05:12] <harsha-> pmc_asad_, can you paste the output of uname -a ?
[05:13] <riotkittie> Kensey: ah. i'd have r/w enabled if i ever used my ntfs partition. :P ive never had a prob with it
[05:13] <dv5237> Odd_Bloke: when i do that i gets back to gdm (login screen)
[05:13] <foutrelis> dv5237: from a terminal
[05:13] <Gosha> .. hmmMm
[05:13] <pmc_asad_> harsha- no, I'm in windows and ubuntu is not installed right now
[05:13] <Odd_Bloke> dv5237: Good point, use the other idea. :p
[05:13] <Gosha> on kdm now ..
[05:13] <harsha-> pmc_asad_, Ok. np.
[05:13] <gibbonsfire4> ok i edit the file but i'll wait till we're done before I chg it back
[05:13] <Gosha> what did you say last time ? .. accidently made it crash
[05:13] <Vanja> hey folks, can i ask some quick questions?
[05:13] <foutrelis> dv5237: then do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to get back into X :)
[05:13] <AlexC_> Vanja: just ask!
[05:14] <buena_swerte> lukas: okay do this on cli.. $ then type 2 tabs to show all your env variables, one of them definitely is for the library path
[05:14] <Vanja> okay first off im a new Ubuntu user, havent installed it yet, just used the live cd a few times.
[05:14] <G|wRGoS> riokittie i want to open a window explorer with root control....
[05:14] <cotui_> ola
[05:14] <snadrik> Hi :) I want to remove all locales except two, how is that possible when dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt work anymore? (Dapper)
[05:14] <Vanja> and i was thinking the installation of Ubuntu, how hard is that?
[05:14] <AlexC_> Vanja: easy, just double click on the Install icon on the desktop,
[05:14] <matteo> what is the UUID stuff in fstab???
[05:14] <AlexC_> Vanja: go through like 6 steps, wait 15-20 mins, restart  and it's done
[05:14] <foutrelis> G|wRGoS: "sudo nautilus" from a terminal
[05:14] <Vanja> yeh but do i need to partition?
[05:15] <AlexC_> Vanja: the installer takes care of it all for you
[05:15] <gibbonsfire4> iuui  mount didn't work but maybe it's the editor i used for fstab... i used gedit
[05:15] <riotkittie> G|wRGoS:  uhm. try alt+f2 then gksu nautilus
[05:15] <Kensey> eddy___, I think you want to make the new partition type 0C
[05:15] <Vanja> really? Well thats neat. Ima try it then
[05:15] <AlexC_> Vanja: just select Partition free space or something like that, default is "erase entire disk"
[05:15] <__filip_> Hello, i on a live-cd but i dont know if this is the amd64 or the x86 version so i run uname -a in a terminal and got this: Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux this is the 64bits version right ?
[05:15] <eddy___> kensey, hey thanks! will try it
[05:15] <iuui> gibbonsfire4. what happened when you used mount?
[05:15] <Kensey> as far as I know LBA mode is the default for anything running on modern hardware
[05:15] <AlexC_> __filip_: yes thats 64bit
[05:15] <Vanja> oh yeh, thats what i was worried about, didnt want to delete my harddrives :)
[05:15] <__filip_> AlexC: Thanx.
[05:16] <Kensey> it's an empty partition so if it doesn't work, it's no big deal
[05:16] <AlexC_> Vanja: =) if you get stuck just pop back in here and ask for help
[05:16] <eddy___> kensey, ok.. hopefully it work
[05:16] <Gosha> is the gesktop manager for xfce 'xfcedesktop'?
[05:16] <kingace> >_< i think i just blew something up inside my computer
[05:16] <gibbonsfire4> iuui i got can't find in fstab
[05:16] <kingace> i
[05:16] <fotoflo_> quick question, where is my bash history stored?
[05:16] <kingace> i
[05:16] <Gosha> desktop*
[05:16] <Kensey> kingace: literally?
[05:16] <AlexC_> __zen__: x86_64 means 64bit, x86 means 32 bit
[05:16] <kingace> Kensey: no, it has to do with my bootloader
[05:16] <Kensey> ah
[05:16] <G|wRGoS> thx my man
[05:16] <riotkittie> fotoflo_:  ~/.bash_history
[05:16] <hanasaki> is there a 6.10 downlaod that includes all current patches/fixes?
[05:16] <Vanja> and another thing, about the WLAN stuff, i was over at my friends house and it found his Wireless automatically and connected. then i got home and i typed in the SID and the WPA password and everything but it wont connect :S
[05:16] <kingace> i tried to reinstall windows on my ntfs partition
[05:16] <AlexC_> __zen__: sorry that was for __filip
[05:17] <iGotNoTime> Is this the same channel that is being used for the .exe install ?
[05:17] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: refresh my memory...when you used mkfs.ext3 - you did it for /dev/hdb right?
[05:17] <pmc_asad_> I can't get 32 bit version of ubuntu to install on MD 64 X2...any suggestions?
[05:17] <Agaliarept> Hey guys I am tring to install ubuntu on a raid0 but neither grub or lilo will install... Any suggestions?
[05:17] <kingace> i've fixed grub via gparted in every way imaginable
[05:17] <buena_swerte> lukas: you still there? its  LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[05:17] <gibbonsfire4> correct
[05:17] <kingace> but every time when I try to boot ubuntu i get error 15: file not found
[05:17] <fab5freddy> Has anybody been able to use Lightsribe on Ubuntu 6.06 AMD64?
[05:17] <AlexC_> Vanja: I know nothing about wireless with Ubuntu sorry,
[05:17] <Odd_Bloke> pmc_asad_: People'll need more info than that.
[05:18] <gibbonsfire4> I also ran the fstab through the terminal to refresh it
[05:18] <harsha-> pmc_asad_,  I was just looking, and I think 2.6.20-rc4-mm1/ has a lot of forcedeth fixes.
[05:18] <Vanja> Ah okay, i will try some stuff and read the Wiki then
[05:18] <AlexC_> Vanja: cool, check the forums out aswell, www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:18] <kestaz> ati xpress 200m ang xgl ?
[05:18] <Kensey> Vanja: when you type in the WPA password, is there a menu to choose between a passphrase and a hex password string?
[05:18] <kingace> is there a way to rename my /dev/sda3 partition to /dev/sda2 within gparted?
[05:19] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: cmd "ls /dev/hdb"
[05:19] <pmc_asad_> Odd_Bloke: sorry. It boots to the screen that asks you to install or run live. And when I hit enter, it says kernel panic.
[05:19] <Vanja> yes there is, theres "hex" or "ascii"
[05:19] <Vanja> i tried both
[05:19] <iGotNoTime> is there a dedicated channel for the .exe installer? #winbuntu hehe
[05:19] <Gosha> blackbox :I
[05:19] <Gosha> :O*
[05:19] <fotoflo_> riotkittie, thanks... what if im running multiple instances, how does it save my history?
[05:19] <Kensey> ah
[05:19] <AlexC_> iGotNoTime: not sure, but there is a dedicated topic on Ubuntuforums.org
[05:19] <Kensey> are you sure you have the right WPA version chosen?
[05:19] <gibbonsfire4> I got back ..../dev/hdb
[05:19] <iGotNoTime> yes
[05:19] <iGotNoTime> thanks anyway AlexC_ :)
[05:20] <iuui> cool - and you still have the fold "/hardrive" correct?
[05:20] <Odd_Bloke> pmc_asad_: Do you get any more info than that?
[05:20] <gibbonsfire4> roger but it's emty
[05:20] <gibbonsfire4> empty
[05:21] <pmc_asad_> Odd_Bloke: yes, something about apic timer. I only get this error in the 32 bit version. Not in the 64 bit version. 6.06
[05:21] <fab5freddy> boot with no apic
[05:21] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: edit fstab again: "/dev/hdb       / hardrive              ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:21] <iuui> "
[05:22] <iuui> sorry - no space between "/" and "hardrive"
[05:22] <gibbonsfire4> ok
[05:22] <pmc_asad_> fab5frddy: tried that and still got the error
[05:22] <lynucs> hi, anyone heard about an ausio software for linux like Cubase and a nice Drumkit like DFH2??
[05:22] <fab5freddy> pmc_asad: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:23] <pmc_asad_> fab5freddy: 6.06
[05:23] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: and if that doesn't work...i want you to find a REALLY big sledge hammer, or preferably an ax....
[05:24] <fab5freddy> pmc_asad: i am using 6.06 amd64 with an athlon x2 64 4200 and it boots fine with the no apic and when i reinstalled i didn't even need to put that anymore
[05:24] <hjmills> iuui, or just get him to dismantle and rebuild the pc with a nugget of pure gold right in the center - that normally fixes most problems I find - odd but my customers often complain about the price
[05:24] <pmc_asad_> fab5freddy: I have the exact same specs. I'm getting frustrated with it/
[05:25] <gibbonsfire4> hmm sumn new it says....mntent: line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad
[05:25] <pmc_asad_> fab5freddy: I'll try again
[05:25] <Odd_Bloke> pmc_asad_: I thought you were trying to use the 32 bit version?
[05:25] <iuui> hjmills: is this "nugget of gold" you're talking about "free" as in free beer?
[05:25] <AmaroK_> I need help with Xchat, where can I see the userlist?
[05:25] <foutrelis> Amallya: It should be at your right
[05:26] <selahone> No, it's free as in free my a@@! lol
[05:26] <fab5freddy> so does anybody know how to get Lightscribe working on AMD64 Dapper 6.06?
[05:26] <foutrelis> AmaroK_: ^
[05:26] <gibbonsfire4> ps I secured all object I could damage my machine with before starting
[05:26] <GaiaX11> how do I open a codebreakers.iso.torrent file?
[05:26] <hanasaki> I have firefox 2 and thunderbird.. and edgy.. run either.. the profile manager comes up fine... select a profile.. hit start and it freezes.. only root kill -9 seems to be able to take out that process then
[05:26] <pmc_asad_> Odd_Bloke: I am trying too use the 32 bit version. The 64 bit version works, but someone told me that there aren't as many packages for x86_64
[05:26] <foutrelis> GaiaX11: With a bittorrent client like Azureus
[05:26] <AmaroK_> foutrelis: What?
[05:26] <Math^> hello, I want to buy some new soundcard, becouse the onboardsound gives me troubles, any ideas...?
[05:26] <GaiaX11> no
[05:26] <iuui> o.k. -  it's exactly like what i copied and pasted? did you get rid of that space between / and "hardrive"
[05:27] <foutrelis> AmaroK_: It should be at your right
[05:27] <GaiaX11> bttorrent
[05:27] <gibbonsfire4> oops
[05:27] <Math^> dont need a super card, just a basic one
[05:27] <GaiaX11> foutrelis: bttorrent
[05:27] <Vanja> erm by the way, why cant i access my harddrives for Ubuntu Live CD? Is it cos im not logged in as root?
[05:27] <AmaroK_> foutrelis: No, not really ^^
[05:27] <eddy___> i have split my partition, but ubuntu livecd doesnt able to recognize the new partition. only sda1 appear which is my windows, what about others sda2, sda3, sda4?
[05:27] <Odd_Bloke> pmc_asad_: I'd just run 64-bit, you won't notice with the majority of packages.
[05:27] <ubuntu> could i get some help with my grub configuration plz
[05:27] <GaiaX11> foutrelis: bttorrent
[05:27] <pradeep> how do I take screenshot of a window with a tool tip?
[05:28] <pradeep> ubuntu, sure
[05:28] <foutrelis> AmaroK_: hmmm.. It could be hidden. Do you see anything you could drag?
[05:28] <foutrelis> GaiaX11: ?
[05:28] <GaiaX11> foutrelis: bittorrent
[05:28] <cappiz> i have managed to boot into initramfs
[05:28] <fab5freddy> pmc_asad: don't expect to get Lightscribe working, or find anybody who has a clue to get it to work, or even respond to you for that matter
[05:28] <ubuntu> my computer isn't booting so im on the live cd
[05:28] <cappiz> how do i boot my system from there ?
[05:28] <pmc_asad_> Odd_Bloke: ok, but still having problem with nforce network. It works when it wants to. I thought maybe the 32 bit version won't have that problem
[05:28] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/323641  is my current configuration in grub and its not working
[05:28] <AmaroK_> foutrelis: no, there are some buttons on the right side, but only usable 4 mods
[05:28] <Odd_Bloke> pmc_asad_: I dunno, sorry.
[05:28] <ubuntu> also a copy of my fdisk -l
[05:28] <pmc_asad_> fab5freddy: i didn't ask about lightscribe
[05:29] <cotui_> hola
[05:29] <fab5freddy> pmc_asad: thats what i am saying, if you install the 64bit version, that is one of the features that will not work for you.. i am following up to your statement of less packages
[05:30] <gibbonsfire4> iuui Im gitten excited... mount gave no error and hardrive has a folder called lost+found....but it says i don't have permission to view the contents
[05:30] <pradeep> ubuntu, what does it say when you try to boot using the first option?
[05:30] <pmc_asad_> fab5freddy: oh, thanks. Well, gonna try now. be back
[05:31] <ubuntu> pradeep, unknown partition type
[05:31] <foutrelis> AmaroK_: Sorry, I cannot help you any further.
[05:31] <GaiaX11> which is the command line to open bittorrent?
[05:31] <AmaroK_> foutrelis: okay thx
[05:32] <AmaroK_> foutrelis: Wohoo!!! I found th elist
[05:32] <ubuntu> sda2 is where my linux boot partition is what should i be calling in grub to boot that?
[05:32] <GaiaX11> which is the command line to open bittorrent?
[05:32] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know how to get the bcmwl5 wifi driver to stop dropping connections during long idle periods?
[05:32] <foutrelis> AmaroK_: :)
[05:32] <gan|y|med> hi  q all
[05:32] <gan|y|med> @
[05:33] <gan|y|med> what temp is considered normal on a notebook with pentium m?
[05:33] <hjmills> ubuntu, probably (hd0,1)
[05:33] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: home stretch, eh? o.k....you have to go BACK into fstab now and edit so it looks like... /dev/hdb  /hardrive  auto    umask=002,dmask=002,fmask=002,gid=46,rw,sync,user,noauto,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850,defaults,errors=remount-rw   0      1
[05:33] <Oni-Dracula> anything under 135F is considered normal PC operation, gan|y|med
[05:33] <ubuntu> hjmills, i have two ide hard drives in the box as well
[05:33] <iuui> mouthfull, huh?
[05:33] <Oni-Dracula> anything higher would be burnination
[05:33] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/323637
[05:34] <pradeep> ubuntu, you seem to have two ditros ... are you able to boot into the other one?
[05:34] <hjmills> ubuntu, then it could possibly be (hd2,0)
[05:34] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: sry, but can you translate this i C?
[05:34] <pradeep> distros*
[05:34] <Oni-Dracula> sec, gan|y|med
[05:34] <Zyb> i have ubuntu iso file, i mounted it as /media/iso how can i update my ubuntu from it now?
[05:34] <Welcome_Mongolia> i want to wlan hacking
[05:34] <ubuntu> pradeep, i cant boot into anything my grub configuration is major borked
[05:34] <hjmills> ubuntu, just set the sata with ubuntu on to boot first in the bios and use (hd0,1)
[05:34] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, that is 57.2222222 C
[05:34] <iuui> welcome_mongolia = bot?
[05:34] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: thx, where can i find the calc?
[05:35] <gibbonsfire4> ok but before i do that I used your previous cmd chmod and I have access to the dir lost+ found which is a 112 GB hd
[05:35] <whonicca> when i go to system -> administration, and click on services I get a popup that states the configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[05:35] <ubuntu> hjmills, ok lemme try this brb
[05:35] <whonicca> this is under gnome
[05:35] <whonicca> can anyone help me fix this problem
[05:35] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, i used google to convert it using search terms "150F to C"
[05:35] <whonicca> ive accessed the menu b4 and turned some things off, then i couldnt access it anymore
[05:35] <foutrelis> Zyb: Try that apt-cdrom command :)
[05:35] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: i kind of followed you there. so you rewrote the permission so you access lost+found?
[05:35] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: thing is, at 800 mhz (if this is correct) and amarok, browser and irc i get 59 to 62 C
[05:36] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: thx
[05:36] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: i get 65.5555556
[05:36] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, that is a little warm, i would reccomend getting additional heat dissipation
[05:36] <gibbonsfire4> yes.... so if I do what you are asking will it make this permant so I'll always have access?
[05:36] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: how? it just stands on a desk
[05:37] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, that is to say that if you were in a warmer climate, such temps could become very naughty...otherwise dun worry bout it
[05:37] <Zyb> foutrelis:  its not a physical cd, its an iso image file, that commant search for real one
[05:37] <JoeBlack> somebody using aan Amilo M3438 Laptop with working fan control?
[05:37] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: yes. or at least, it _should_ be. chmod 777 can be a dangerous command in some cases. permissions are set up to protect your system.
[05:37] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: hm, i'll ask sb. with the same model if he gets the same values. thing is, in windows nhc shows me 55 C
[05:37] <tweek> if i am using XGL/Beryl, how can i still use gnome TS client because right now it is very opaque and pretty much unusuable, the colors are off and its all transperant
[05:38] <gibbonsfire4> understood here goes
[05:38] <Kensey> whonicca, try running alacerte in a terminal window
[05:38] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: you still have to reset fstab when this is all done with. good luck.
[05:38] <foutrelis> Zyb: Sorry for that. I thought that it would work on mounted isos as well. My mistake
[05:38] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, if it's dusty, blow it out with a can of air...you might get a couple degrees cooler during normal operation
[05:38] <kiamo> heya
[05:38] <iuui> reset= chmod again.
[05:38] <whonicca> Kensey, ok
[05:38] <OnionSWE> hello everyone, i need some help!
[05:38] <foutrelis> OnionSWE: Could you provide some more info? :D
[05:38] <cotui_> hola a todos
[05:39] <cotui_>  xd
[05:39] <gibbonsfire4> done... what do you mean by reset fstab...I ran it through terminal
[05:39] <whonicca> Kensey, ok now what?
[05:39] <OnionSWE> i have inserted a disk into my computer that i need to mount but i dont know what filesystem the partition is? how do i find out=
[05:39] <OnionSWE> ?
[05:39] <buena_swerte> anyone got a DeskStar hard drive that makes beep beep sound at boot? and stays like that?
[05:39] <buchanp> hjmills, thank you so much
[05:39] <Kensey> that should give you the Alacarte menu editor
[05:39] <buchanp> everyone else as well :)
[05:40] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: sorry - i meant setting the persmissions back to the way they were. o.k. - umount the hard drive and then remoutn it o.k.?
[05:40] <whonicca> kensey, yeah i got the menu up
[05:40] <buena_swerte> OnionSWE: where did you get that disk from?
[05:40] <iuui> and just use mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /hardrive
[05:40] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: "can of air"?
[05:40] <gibbonsfire4> ok
[05:40] <Kensey> now you should be able to browse it and turn things back on
[05:40] <RancidLM> how do i exit out of the ubuntu boot splash screen so i can see the processes loading?
[05:40] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, compressed air in a can....
[05:40] <gibbonsfire4> sorry whats the unmount cmd
[05:40] <cotui_> quien me puede decir un canal que hablen en espaol
[05:40] <whonicca> kensey, the option is there, i just cant access it, a popup comes up
[05:41] <DARKGuy> cotui_: #ubuntu-es
[05:41] <iuui> gibbonsfire4: sorry :) ....umount /hardrive
[05:41] <Kensey> what does it say?
[05:41] <cotui_> gracias
[05:41] <OnionSWE> buena_swerte, its an 2,5" IDE drive from an old exernal harddrive that i had laying around with some very important documents on it..
[05:41] <buena_swerte> OnionSWE: actually if it is mountable, you can try  fdisk -l /dev/hdX
[05:41] <kimteaguen> hello
[05:42] <whonicca> kensey, the configuration could not be loaded
[05:42] <Kensey> hmmmm
[05:42] <whonicca> kensey, you are not allowed to access the system configuration
[05:42] <kimteaguen> iam korean
[05:42] <whonicca> i tried gksu system-admin
[05:42] <whonicca> i mean
[05:42] <whonicca> services-admin
[05:42] <Welcome_Mongolia> i want to wlan hacking help me
[05:42] <whonicca> and the same error popped up
[05:42] <kimteaguen> admin?
[05:42] <iuui> gibs: you may have to delete one of the optoins i gave you...
[05:42] <kimteaguen> hhhh
[05:42] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: do you have any clue, why superkaramba (i know, it's not gnome) does not display temps, though lm-sensors is installed?
[05:42] <gibbonsfire4> iuui done what now
[05:43] <kimteaguen> i can help you
[05:43] <RancidLM> is there any way at all to exit out of the ubuntu boot splash screen to see the processes loading?
[05:43] <iuui> o.k., you've remounted?
[05:43] <iuui> can you get get read/write access?
[05:43] <OnionSWE> buena_swerte, it says  fdisk -l /dev/hdc (same goes for hdc)
[05:43] <OnionSWE> sorry..
[05:43] <buena_swerte> OnionSWE: and what is the result of it?
[05:43] <OnionSWE> it says Cannot open /dev/hdc
[05:43] <_tcc> How can I use scripts for nautilus?
[05:43] <kiamo> anyone here know how to configure ubuntu 6.10 to play dvds
[05:43] <OnionSWE> nor hdc1
[05:43] <gibbonsfire4> I used the -t mount you identified i think I have read write stby
[05:43] <kiamo> iv tried some stuff and guides but to no avail...
[05:44] <kiamo> kinda
[05:44] <buena_swerte> OnionSWE: you may have to go back to the BIOS and make sure the drive is detected first
[05:44] <iuui> <standing by, nervously>
[05:44] <kiamo> to some avail i suppose ;)
[05:44] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, no idea...I'm not familiar with superkaramba.  Do other apps that function properly use lm-sensors?
[05:44] <Kensey> whonicca, I don't know anything about that specifically but I found this forum post about it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1990431
[05:44] <OnionSWE> buena_swerte, but it has apeared in /dev/ as "hdc" ??
[05:44] <politik_> RancidLM: in grub, edit the boot command (I think you put "nosplash" on the end?
[05:44] <whonicca> Kensey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2431/
[05:44] <freaky_> ques, i have wireless and therefore i added gnome-network-manager or something like it. That works nice, but now I have 2 icons for the network. one that allows selecting between wired and wireless networks, and one that can connect to wireless networks (but wep only) on this one actually can show the IP addresses n such. isn't there an icon that can do both?
[05:45] <whonicca> maybe u can make something out of that, thats the error via command line
[05:45] <OnionSWE> buena_swerte, with the partition "hdc1"
[05:45] <Kensey> so maybe something suggested in that thread will work for you
[05:45] <_tcc> Where in nautilus should I be directed to use a script that I have added to ~/.gnome2/nautilus_scripts/?
[05:45] <RancidLM> politik_: so theres no key just to exit out of it?
[05:45] <buena_swerte> OnionSWE: those listed under /dev/  are not truely there yet...you need to see it in dmesg if it has been detected
[05:45] <gibbonsfire4> yaaayyy it worked
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[05:45] <gaspipe1> jhey all
[05:46] <pradeep> hello
[05:46] <_tcc> Nautilus anyone?
[05:46] <Bidou> hello
[05:46] <iuui> :) alright. we have to reset the permissions on the fstab file now
[05:46] <Bidou> des franais ?
[05:46] <gibbonsfire4> If I chmod to the Lost+Found folder will it eliminate my read write access...and to change permissions back is it the same cmd
[05:46] <Kensey> so does Mark Shuttleworth/Canonical ever do cool stuff for the Ubuntu dev team?
[05:46] <pradeep> Bidou, #ubuntu-fr
[05:46] <Bidou> oh sorry
[05:47] <iuui> well, when you umounted/remounted the drive, all of that stuff reset...but the fstab has to be changed, it will still work fine though.
[05:47] <foutrelis> my back hurts so much today.. ! :( Death is near
[05:47] <iuui> and no, the cmd is different....stdby
[05:48] <zYe> i need help installing a file from source, i cd to its dir and then ./config but the config gives me a error
[05:48] <gaspipe1> >judicata I sent a pm, in case you didn't get it...thanks for your help!
[05:48] <Kensey> zYe, what error?
[05:48] <freaky_> also the two applets give different results, one says connection strength is 87% the other 53%? kinda weird
[05:48] <paolo> hi,its italin ubuntu?
[05:48] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula: ksensors seems ti function properly. seems to be the scripts (many of them, strangly though), as one script displays the temp)
[05:48] <camerong> hey, any one here think they can help me get my fglrx working? i tried the wiki's tutorial to no avail.. thanks if u can
[05:48] <iuui> chmod u=rw,g=r,o=r /etc/fstab
[05:48] <Judicata> gaspipe1: no problem. did you register?
[05:48] <dime> what irc clients do most of you prefer
[05:49] <zYe> Kensey: The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[05:49] <zYe> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[05:49] <zYe> configure: error: Test for GLIB failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.
[05:49] <gaspipe1> >judicata to be honest it's still messed up lol :P
[05:49] <Judicata> gaspipe1: crap, what's wrong?
[05:49] <iuui> then "ls -ltka /etc/fstab" and you should have "-rw-r--r--"
[05:49] <zYe> sry about paste
[05:49] <paolo> is in this server italin ubuntu?
[05:49] <Oni-Dracula> gan|y|med, odd...programming error maybe? sorry im no help
[05:49] <gaspipe1> i don't have enough time to get into it...but perhaps if you are available yo can hep me out later :)
[05:49] <Langenscheidt> has anyone an idea how to solve a problem with transparency on fluxbox ??
[05:49] <Enverex> !it | paolo
[05:49] <ubotu> paolo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:50] <Kensey> zYe, that means your program is looking for a specific version of the base C libraries that you don't have
[05:50] <gaspipe1> when i boot up... i ge the grub menu
[05:50] <gan|y|med> Oni-Dracula:  thx a lot anyway
[05:50] <gaspipe1> >judicata won't load xp....won't load ubuntu.. i get error 22 no such partition
[05:50] <zYe> well i am installing gimp 2.2.1 and i have the default one on here already
[05:50] <gibbonsfire4> I did and it did
[05:50] <zYe> so i should have those c library's right?
[05:50] <iuui> awesome.
[05:51] <Judicata> gaspipe1: yikes. well, when you have time I'm sure someone can help you.
[05:51] <zYe> i already have gimp 2.0
[05:51] <Kensey> you would need the source version
[05:51] <nukeDev> Hello All
[05:51] <iuui> everything cool then?
[05:51] <Langenscheidt> hey, I have problem with fluxbox and ubuntu, CAN anybody HELP?
[05:51] <gibbonsfire4> Can I chang the name of the dir "lost+found" to a more appropriate name without losing access to the drive
[05:51] <zYe> the source version for which gimp
[05:51] <iuui> yes.
[05:51] <zYe> the newer one or older?
[05:51] <Judicata> Langenscheidt: ask the question, and someone will help you if they can.
[05:51] <Kensey> it's not complaining about gimp
[05:52] <Kensey> it wants the source to glibc
[05:52] <gaspipe1> >judicata i have to boot live cd... then pick the HD option...then goes to grub and i can pick which os to stat...lol
[05:52] <kiamo> does anyone know of an mplayer channel?
[05:52] <gaspipe1> >judicata ttyl, thanks again
[05:52] <Judicata> gaspipe1: hrm. gl.
[05:52] <_tcc> Where in nautilus should I be directed to use a script that I have added to ~/.gnome2/nautilus_scripts/?
[05:52] <nukeDev> hey people what is the apt-get command to install all of the MS Core Fonts?
[05:53] <Langenscheidt> I've installed fluxbox on my ubuntu dapper, the problem is I can not set the transparency, has anyone an idea how to solve it?
[05:53] <_tcc> Can anyone help me with this?
[05:53] <gaspipe1> .judicata hrm? gl? whats that
[05:53] <zYe> what is blibc?
[05:53] <zYe> glibc
[05:53] <gibbonsfire4> If you were living next door a couple of beers would def be in order...Thank you very much....I WILL now kiss window goodbye.
[05:53] <jrib> _tcc: when you right click you will have a "scripts" menu
[05:53] <Kensey> zYe, it's the basic C libraries that almost every Linux program needs to run
[05:53] <gibbonsfire4> I mean Windows XP
[05:53] <_tcc> Right click upon?
[05:53] <adaptr> gaspipe1: more than likely, grub guessed wrong what your HD is called when it boots from it.. it can be a different name than when it's booted off the CD
[05:53] <Judicata> gaspipe1: "hrm" was me thinking (hmmmmm), and "gl" was "good luck" - but I'll be more than happy to help if I'm around later and not busy.
[05:53] <per--> anyone got any luck with asus p5b mainboard and edgy? i get the cool error 21...
[05:53] <Kensey> try this: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[05:53] <nukeDev> hey people what is the apt-get command to install all of the MS Core Fonts?
[05:53] <jrib> _tcc: a file or directory
[05:54] <_tcc> Ok, I've got the Video Converter Beta script for nautilus.
[05:54] <iuui> lol - i'll defintealy treat myself to a couple of beers :). goodbye windows! hooray! the revolution has begun.
[05:54] <adaptr> !msttf
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <zYe> Kensy, does that mean i need to update them?
[05:54] <adaptr> !ttf
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Kensey> then try to compile the gimp source again
[05:54] <_tcc> I see no scripts menu.
[05:54] <adaptr> !fonts
[05:54] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:54] <jrib> _tcc: is your script executable?
[05:54] <Sivik-bed> !fsencyption
[05:54] <_tcc> jrib,I see no menu when I click an avi.
[05:54] <whonicca> kensey, i just reinstalled dbus and its working again
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsencyption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <gaspipe1> >adaptr the grub was loaded onto hd0
[05:54] <Kensey> zYe: you probably don't have the source
[05:54] <jrib> nukeDev: msttcorefonts is the package
[05:54] <_tcc> jrib, it should be, my friend got it off of the forums
[05:54] <jrib> _tcc: check
[05:54] <Kensey> you would have the libc compiled version, or Linux wouldn't run
[05:54] <adaptr> gaspipe1: the designations for all partitions reachable from grub are in the grub config file - they are probably all wrong...
[05:55] <per--> anyone? asus p5b deluxe and grub error 21..
[05:55] <Kensey> but to build new programs you need to have the source so the program can use the glibc you have
[05:55] <per--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2044486&posted=1#post2044486
[05:55] <gaspipe1> >adaptr is it hard/long to fix?
[05:55] <zYe> Kensey, well where can i get this source
[05:55] <_tcc> jrib, I did not have sufficient privileges ;)
[05:55] <adaptr> gaspipe1: the fact that you get the grub menu means the grub bootloader is already working.. but it can't reach the partitions defined in menu.lst
[05:55] <adaptr> gaspipe1: not really...
[05:55] <kiamo> !MPlayer
[05:55] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[05:55] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:55] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:55] <mick0> www.freepenguin.135.it
[05:55] <gaspipe1> >adapt have a min? and some patience?
[05:56] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you can boot ubuntu from the CD ?
[05:56] <Kensey> that command I gave you a second ago will fetch the source for you
[05:56] <gaspipe1> >adaptr yes...live cd
[05:56] <zYe> oh?
[05:56] <Kensey> yep
[05:56] <kimteaguen> are you know mac
[05:56] <kimteaguen> mac os
[05:56] <adaptr> gaspipe1: do so... you can alter the config from there
[05:56] <Langenscheidt> Anyone knows how to fix transparency problems od fluxbox?
[05:56] <_tcc> jrib, thank you
[05:56] <Kensey> sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[05:57] <kimteaguen> fluxbox? what?
[05:57] <pradeep> kimteaguen, no, this is just about ubuntu
[05:57] <pradeep> kimteaguen, try #mac
[05:57] <zYe> Kensey, libc6-dev is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:57] <kimteaguen> i see
[05:57] <gaspipe1> >adapter srry about this but i need like step by step... never used ubuntu b4
[05:57] <Kensey> hm.
[05:57] <Langenscheidt> fluxbox transparency, I doesn't work for me
[05:57] <Judicata> Langenscheidt: just say specifically what the problem is, and someone will help you. like "the terminal isn't transparent" or whatever.
[05:57] <Kensey> what are you running?  dapper, edgy?  something else?
[05:58] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you said previously you could boot the Ubuntu installation on your HD by using the LiveCD
[05:58] <kingace> hello
[05:58] <kingace> my ubuntu partition got renamed from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda3
[05:58] <kingace> and now it doesn't boot
[05:58] <adaptr> kingace: USB HD, yes
[05:58] <kimteaguen> i dont know fluxbox...because i dont see this device
[05:58] <kimteaguen> hhh
[05:58] <Langenscheidt> Nothing is transparent, I've set te transparency, but it doesn't work
[05:58] <kingace> adaptr: no it isn't?
[05:58] <kimteaguen> zzz
[05:58] <gaspipe1> >adapter correct.. i boot from cd... then paick hd to pick os program to use
[05:58] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[05:58] <gaspipe1> >adapter as right now i'm using ubuntu on my hdd
[05:58] <jrib> Langenscheidt: run  fluxbox --info  and check it was compiled with transparency support
[05:58] <adaptr> gaspipe1: and I said: do so
[05:59] <adaptr> gaspipe1: okay
[05:59] <kimteaguen> dd
[05:59] <kimteaguen> dd
[05:59] <zYe> Kensey, 1) GTK+ version 2.4.4          2) PangoFT2libart2              3) to check that the following libraries are installed: libpng, libjpeg, libtiff, gimp-print (4.2.x), gtkhtml-2, libmng, librsvg, libwmf.
[05:59] <adaptr> gaspipe1: open up a console
[05:59] <gaspipe1> >adater... ow ok... i am loaded with hd right now
[05:59] <Langenscheidt> jrib it was, I've checked it
[05:59] <zYe> there some other things it told me to do i didnt do
[05:59] <jrib> Langenscheidt: tried restarting fluxbox?
[05:59] <zYe> edgy eft
[05:59] <gaspipe1> >adapter console? where do i find that
[05:59] <Langenscheidt> jrib: yep, many times
[06:00] <zYe> could that be the problem/
[06:00] <|[sellout] |> Hey all, I have been batteling with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/71913 any ideas?
[06:00] <kimteaguen> hit fluxbox hh so
[06:00] <adaptr> gaspipe1: Applications -> Accessories - > Terminal
[06:00] <Kensey> it may want a version of libc newer than what's in edgy, but that would be pretty darn new
[06:00] <Sirmis> howto set 1280x1024 screen resolution to shell ? vga=??? `
[06:00] <gaspipe1> ok
[06:00] <ardchoille42> Langenscheidt, What are trying to get transparency for? The windows themselves?
[06:00] <tryggvib> Hello, I'm having problems with my wireless card
[06:00] <Langenscheidt> Yes, for the windows
[06:00] <Sirmis> tryggvib: what card you have ?
[06:00] <adaptr> Sirmis: set it to vga=ask and next boot it will show you a list of possibilities
[06:01] <stoorty> !wireless
[06:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:01] <Kensey> you might need to head over to #gimp on irc.gimp.org
[06:01] <Sirmis> adaptr: thx !
[06:01] <tryggvib> writing "sudo iwconfig eth1 key s:12345" results in an error about Operation not supported
[06:01] <zYe> ok thanks
[06:01] <tryggvib> ipw2200
[06:01] <o0splitpaw0o> I got a question. I just put in a ATI radeon 9550 into my box here, ran the dpkg .... xorg and got that running, but don't see anything in the help files about enabling glx- at this time it states no for rendering, how to i enable it?
[06:01] <kingace> if i delete /dev/sda2 and grow /dev/sda3 to the right, will it be renamed to /dev/sda2?
[06:01] <Kensey> sure
[06:01] <ardchoille42> Langenscheidt, as far as I know, fluxbox doesn't do transparency for the window content, only for the slit and window titlebar
[06:01] <tryggvib> Sirmis: ipw2200
[06:01] <kingace> *to the left
[06:01] <gaspipe1> >adapter ok console is now open
[06:01] <adaptr> Sirmis: but this is never permanent, or see !console-setup
[06:01] <Kensey> anybody here use compiz and know which plugins are the most cpu-intense?
[06:01] <Sirmis> !console-setup
[06:01] <fiber> hello
[06:01] <ubotu> console-setup: Setup the font and the keyboard on the console. In component main, is important. Version 1.7ubuntu19 (edgy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[06:02] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: what does "glxinfo" give you?
[06:02] <kiamo> please can someone help, i seem to be getting a lot of X11 related problems
[06:02] <iturk> hi there! Is there any manual of how to use gimp-svg plugin i am searching in google and i cannot find it! i want to create svg images and i have search in gimp and i cannot find the plugin! what should i do ?!
[06:02] <adaptr> gaspipe1: please try to spell my name right, I don't like hunting a 1000+ user channel for your msgs
[06:02] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: btw, please pastebin.
[06:02] <tryggvib> complete error message: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported
[06:02] <gaspipe1> >adaptr srry
[06:02] <Langenscheidt> ardchoille42 oh, so You have any idea what tool is used to make window transparency?
[06:02] <kiamo> latest X11 error is : X11 support required for GUI compilation
[06:02] <fiber> hello, my english is very bad, and i need that someone help me to configure my ati
[06:02] <Kensey> Sirmis, http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[06:02] <Judicata> gaspipe1: probably don't use the ">" in front of the name either.
[06:03] <ardchoille42> Langenscheidt, No.. does beryl or compiz do that?
[06:03] <gaspipe1> adaptr like this
[06:03] <nukeDev> hey when i use the apt-get command i get this error message.
[06:03] <Sirmis> Kensey: thanks
[06:03] <o0splitpaw0o> direct rendering: No
[06:03] <nukeDev> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:03] <nukeDev>   sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:03] <nukeDev> any ideas?
[06:03] <Judicata> gaspipe1: It prevents the name from being highlighted :)
[06:03] <Sirmis> nukeDev: try aptitude
[06:03] <gaspipe1> adaptr is this better?
[06:03] <adaptr> gaspipe1: use tab completion; adap<TAB> is sufficient, and precludes typos
[06:03] <kiamo> !X11
[06:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:03] <gaspipe1> adapter like this? i used tab
[06:04] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: so you want to get the fglrx driver working, right?
[06:04] <o0splitpaw0o> yep
[06:04] <kiamo> is anyone able to help with my X11 problem?
[06:04] <adaptr> gaspipe1: no, you did not - adap<TAB> will reach me only (at this moment)
[06:04] <gaspipe1> i'm lost
[06:05] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you have a TAB key on your keyboard ?
 yes
[06:05] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: ok, make sure the fglrx-control, and xorg-driver-fglrx packages are installed, and put your xorg.conf on pastebin.
[06:05] <gaspipe1> adaptr: owww..i got it
[06:05] <nukeDev> hey when i use the apt-get command i get this error message.
[06:05] <gaspipe1> adaptr: srry
[06:05] <nukeDev> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:05] <camerong> hey guys im trying to use fglrx and when i run "sudo aticonfig --initial" i get "nothing to do. terminating." i think this is becuase its already supposively set up.. is this a bad error message or waht?
[06:05] <Kensey> Sirmis, or even better, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=791315#post791315
[06:05] <kiamo> !sources.list
[06:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:05] <gaspipe1> adaptr: dam there is much to learn
[06:05] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: that is, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[06:05] <adaptr> gaspipe1: yers.. every day, too :)
[06:05] <kiamo> !EasySource
[06:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:06] <kiamo> where is my sources list contained?
 excuse my ignorence, but can I ask what pastebin might be
[06:06] <kiamo> i forget ;)
[06:06] <Langenscheidt> ardchoille42 I'll try with compiz, we'll se than, thx
[06:06] <adaptr> gaspipe1: ho-kay, now run: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:06] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok i got the console/terminal open
[06:06] <ardchoille42> kiamo, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <Kensey> man the fonts are a lot nicer in Firefox with Edgy
[06:06] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: good question :) here...
[06:06] <kiamo> thanks  ardchoille42  :)
[06:06] <fiber> hello, my english is very bad, and i need that someone help me to configure my ati
[06:06] <Judicata> !pastebin | o0splitpaw0o
[06:06] <ubotu> o0splitpaw0o: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <gaspipe1> adaptr: that whole line after run: ?
[06:06] <Kensey> I dunno if that's Firefox 2 vs. 1.5 or if it's better font work in Edgy
[06:06] <adaptr> gaspipe1: yes
[06:07] <gaspipe1> adaptr: got another screen with menu
[06:07] <Kensey> 7
[06:07] <Kensey> oops.  my cat says hi.
[06:07] <adaptr> gaspipe1: yes, that is your boot menu configuration
[06:07] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok now what?
[06:07] <fiber> hello, my english is very bad, and i need that someone help me to configure my ati
[06:07] <adaptr> gaspipe1: can you paste that to a pastebin ?
[06:08] <Kensey> fiber, what language do you speak?
 ok let me copy that one second
[06:08] <gaspipe1> adaptr: how do i paste it to a pastebin?
[06:08] <adaptr> !paste
[06:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:08] <fiber> spanish
[06:08] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: it will be helpful for me if you don't put the <> around my name (my IRC client highlights a line with my name in it, but not with the <'s.
[06:08] <Kensey> Is there an Ubuntu Spanish-language channel, guys?
[06:08] <adaptr> !es | fiber
[06:08] <ubotu> fiber: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:09] <fiber> oks
[06:09] <Gabby_Hayes> Why does edgy have a different /etc/fstab than other distros?  am trying to put a second HD into /etc/fstab,  but it seems that I need a "UUID=  " entry.  Where do I get that UUID= ?
[06:09] <fiber> thanks
[06:09] <adaptr> welcome Kensey!
[06:09] <fiber> i'm new in ubuntu
[06:09] <Kensey> hi adaptr
[06:09] <adaptr> Gabby_Hayes: of course you don't *need* a UUID
[06:09] <nukeDev> ok people everytime i use the apt-get command i get this message : You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[06:09] <nukeDev> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:09] <nukeDev>   sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:09] <nukeDev> . ANY IDEAS?
[06:09] <gaspipe1> adaptr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2435/
[06:09] <adaptr> Gabby_Hayes: Ubuntu uses it to enable some magic
[06:09] <Kensey> fiber: no problem, that's what Ubuntu's all about :)
[06:10] <gaspipe1> adaptr: is that right link?
[06:10] <Gabby_Hayes> ok, just a /de/hddx  / auto 0 0   shuld work
[06:10] <camerong> hey when i run "sudo modprobe fglrx" it returns "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx" ... why is this and how come i cant install it? i need to use it and ive followed instructions on wiki and installed the packages!
[06:10] <speedracer_> hi!!!! is there any sort of GUI tool for Ubuntu that I can use to manage my hard drive partitions?
[06:10] <adaptr> gaspipe1: how many hard drives do you have, and where is ubuntu installed ?
[06:10] <o0splitpaw0o> judicata : alright cut and pating my conf fiel to the page one moment..
[06:10] <glorinha> hye
[06:10] <speedracer_> please, i'm blowing up with excitement
[06:10] <Dame> !gdesklets
[06:10] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[06:10] <sfstikkun> How can I access Curl once the package is installed?
[06:10] <dRK_sHd0w> sup guyz?
[06:10] <glorinha> ola
[06:10] <Kensey> nukeDev, just run the command it gives you and it should sort things out
[06:10] <phaidros> hi, is there  an edgy-xen-verserver kernel image avail ?
[06:10] <glorinha> seus putu
[06:10] <adaptr> !gparted | speedracer_
[06:10] <ubotu> speedracer_: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:10] <glorinha> oi vaka
[06:10] <speedracer_> thanks guys
[06:10] <kiamo> how do I uninstall a program?
[06:11] <ardchoille42> speedracer_, gparted (gnome) or qtparted (kde)
[06:11] <adaptr> !english | glorinha
[06:11] <ubotu> glorinha: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:11] <speedracer_> first APT-GET EVEREERRRRRR
[06:11] <phaidros> kiamo, synaptic or #sudo apt-get remove packagename
[06:11] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i have 2 hdd, 80 gig hdd has 3 partitions sda1
[06:11] <kiamo> aah i see thanks
[06:11] <speedracer_> this channel moves so freaking quickly
[06:11] <gaspipe1> adaptr: thats wherre it is ( i hope)
[06:11] <kiamo> and if i havent installed it one of those ways i can just delete the folder?
[06:11] <phaidros> anybody: kernel image for xen & vserver available?
[06:11] <Kensey> speedracer: you'll do plenty more :)
[06:11] <storkme> how can i run a program in a new terminal with the 'open with' dialog?
[06:11] <adaptr> gaspipe1: more info please - "hdd has 3 partitions sda1" means nothing to me
[06:11] <Dame> Uotdated link from ubotu: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ = You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[06:12] <speedracer_> do most people just guess when doing apt-gets?
[06:12] <adaptr> gaspipe1: needed info is disk/partition name/ filesystem (or OS type)
[06:12] <speedracer_> that's pretty vauge
[06:12] <nukeDev> thanks pees
[06:12] <adaptr> apt-cache | speedracer_:
[06:12] <speedracer_> what's apt-cache
[06:12] <ardchoille42> speedracer_, you can do apt-cache search appname, but guessing is not a good idea
[06:12] <adaptr> !packages | speedracer_
[06:12] <ubotu> speedracer_: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:12] <speedracer_> hahaha
[06:12] <speedracer_> i get it
[06:12] <speedracer_> nice
[06:13] <speedracer_> good thing i asked, otherwise i would have went on guessing
[06:13] <Kensey> storkme: gnome-terminal -x <program> might work
[06:13] <ardchoille42> speedracer_, you can also do: apt-cache policy appname  to see if something is installed already
[06:13] <daddydoc> anyone know how to change permissions on a file so I can copy them to another folder?
[06:13] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2436/
[06:13] <storkme> Kensey, nope, it closes the terminal right after its executed
[06:13] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: ty, got it.
[06:13] <adaptr> speedracer_: by all means, please guess - I can only hope one of your random guesses comes out as "apt-get -f purge gnome"
[06:13] <Kensey> weird
[06:13] <ardchoille42> adaptr, lol
[06:13] <Kensey> what are you trying to run?
[06:13] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok ahhh.. i know the drive that ubuntu is loaded on is sd1
[06:13] <speedracer_> what does the -f do?
[06:13] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you can get that info by running "fdisk -l /dev/(disk)" for each disk
[06:14] <speedracer_> force
[06:14] <pietro> sorry were is the server to call in italy?
[06:14] <kiamo> !cvs
[06:14] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[06:14] <adaptr> !mirrors | pietro
[06:14] <ubotu> pietro: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:14] <crit09> All: does anyone know how is Xchat interface built?
[06:14] <gaspipe1> adaptr: run that in console?
[06:14] <Gabby_Hayes> adaptr    so there isn't a comand  apt-get -f purge  microsoft,  yet?  :-(
[06:14] <adaptr> gaspipe1: always :)(
[06:14] <ardchoille42> speedracer_, -f means "force".. and if you do system administration correctly, you shouldn't ever have to force anything
[06:14] <crit09> In the sense, what programming tools went into it
[06:14] <gecko> the interface? hmm..
[06:14] <Kensey> Gabby_Hayes, no, but that'sa Ubuntu bug #1 :)
[06:14] <daddydoc> anyone know how to change permissions on a file so I can copy them to another folder?
[06:14] <ardchoille42> daddydoc, man chown  and  man chmod
[06:15] <daddydoc> i will try that
[06:15] <kiamo> sigh
[06:15] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: add this to the end. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2437/
[06:15] <kiamo> man i suck at linux ;(
[06:15] <sfstikkun> ubotu: how do I access CURL once it the package is installed?
[06:15] <kiamo> i cant sort any of my problems
[06:15] <ardchoille42> daddydoc, Those will tell you a lot of info about chown and cmod
[06:15] <adaptr> crit09: 1-second Google gives: A GTK+ X-windows client with Perl and Python scripting support.
[06:15] <storkme> Kensey, trying to do 'java' from nautilus
[06:16] <freaky_> new to ubuntu (come from gentoo) and whilst using firefox i notice a lot of website look uglier (fonts i guess...) anyone know how to fix that? already have the corefonts
[06:16] <adaptr> crit09: so that would be GTK+
[06:16] <Kensey> kiamo: you should see some of the crap I deal with administering Windows at a university
[06:16] <gecko> crit09: i would look for its source. given that it is open source... and see from there..but adaptr jus told u lol
[06:16] <kiamo> haha ok fair enough
[06:16] <Kensey> :)
[06:16] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: btw, backup your xorg.conf first - (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak) that way you can easily restore it if something messes up.
[06:16] <dust> what's the best way of upgrading to feisty?
[06:16] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: alright
[06:17] <Kensey> usually it's users though.  "My CD doesn't work."  Flip it over, it's covered in fingerprints...
[06:17] <adaptr> dust: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --break-my-box-please
[06:17] <daddydoc> so if the owner of a file is   1000   what do I type to change the owner to shough? with admin privileges?
[06:17] <kiamo> hehe
[06:17] <gecko> Kensey: your cd player is that sensitive?
[06:17] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i try'd that line said cannot open /dev/sda1
[06:17] <kiamo> i find tuts and things to help me do things
[06:17] <Kensey> gecko: newer ones seem to be way more so than old ones
[06:17] <Judicata> Kensey: pebkac.
[06:17] <dust> or rather: I'd like to get some updated versions of libqt3 and such installed, and it seems to be a dependency hell?
[06:17] <humbolto> how stupid am I if I consider to put ROOT on an LVM which is on a md RAID1?
[06:17] <ardchoille42> Kensey, I once got "it asks for the 3rd floppy but I can only fit two in the drive"
[06:17] <kiamo> but without fail, during them, some command doenst work or something
[06:17] <adaptr> gaspipe1: prefix the commands with "sudo" - you have to be root for this kind of stuff
[06:18] <gecko> lol mines brand new in my laptop and ive had no problems with scratches.i think it helps against not working
[06:18] <daddydoc> so if the owner of a file is   1000   what do I type to change the owner to shough? with admin privileges?
[06:18] <daddydoc> i am a newbie
[06:18] <adaptr> daddydoc: chown
[06:18] <adaptr> !chown | daddydoc
[06:18] <ubotu> daddydoc: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:18] <Kensey> daddydoc: chown daddydoc:daddydoc <file> will change the owner of <file>
[06:18] <gecko> ok.. i think i may have partitioned wrong.. if i have 50 gigs of partition space set up for linux.. how much should i make /   swap and home
[06:18] <daddydoc> thanks, i will try
[06:19] <adaptr> Kensey: Ubuntu does not have per-user groups; use either "users" as the group or don't change it
[06:19] <Kensey> oh, OK
[06:19] <Kensey> so just chown daddydoc...?
[06:19] <adaptr> Kensey: yep
[06:19] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: was it alright to put that on the end of the last line? just doublechecking
[06:19] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i tried subtu fdisk -l /dev/sda1 (is that right?)
[06:19] <ETAnimation> heyy
[06:19] <Kensey> user 1000 isthe first user created anyway isn't it?
[06:19] <adaptr> gaspipe1: are you dyslexic ?
[06:19] <kiamo> !dvd
[06:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:19] <gaspipe1> adaptr: just lost...let me try again
[06:20] <ETAnimation> Can anybody help me out with a driver problem
[06:20] <ardchoille42> Kensey, I believe that is the admin user created during installation
[06:20] <Kensey> yeah
[06:20] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: yep. If that's done, restart X, and I should see you in a second :).
[06:20] <dust> you know, I'd rather have my box crash once in a while, and still be able of installing newer software
[06:20] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: ok thank you
[06:20] <adaptr> gaspipe1: "sudo fdisk -L /dev/sda" <-- DISK name, not a partition!
[06:20] <kiamo> whats the best way to play dvds in linux?
[06:20] <adaptr> !Vlc
[06:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:20] <adaptr> kiamo: vlc does menus
[06:20] <ETAnimation> Anybody able to help with a Intel WIFI problem I have?
[06:20] <Gabby_Hayes> how can I reset or sestart my  /etc/fstab file after an alteration to it?
[06:21] <Kensey> kiamo: first move to a jurisdiction where you can legally do that :)
[06:21] <adaptr> aargh
[06:21] <kiamo> vlc doesnt play dvds...
[06:21] <freaky_> !firefox
[06:21] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:21] <dust> Gabby_Hayes: mount -a
[06:21] <nukeDev> what is the best c++ compiler for ubuntu?
[06:21] <gaspipe1> adaptr: sudu fdisk -l /dev/sda still no good
[06:21] <kiamo> it always crashes
[06:21] <freaky_> !fonts
[06:21] <Gabby_Hayes> .. sestart =  restart
[06:21] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:21] <kiamo> what do you mean Kensey?
[06:21] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs
[06:21] <ETAnimation> Anyone?!
[06:21] <freaky_> !firefoxnotugly :D
[06:21] <adaptr> Kensey: nonsense; there has never been a court case that decided you cannot play a dvd you legally own in any way you please...
[06:21] <LordRedyen> HELP. how to partitioning a HD 80GB, for a multiuser server  with /, /usr, /var, /tmp, /home will be the rest
[06:21] <nukeDev> what is the best c++ compiler for ubuntu?
[06:21] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you're still typing it wrong
[06:22] <ETAnimation> HELP: SIOCGIFFLAGS error
[06:22] <Kensey> kiamo: it varies by country, but in the US reverse-engineering DVD encryption is still technically  illegal last I checked
[06:22] <kiamo> pfft
[06:22] <kiamo> thats silly
[06:22] <adaptr> Kensey: in theory, maybe - but read carefully what I wrote
[06:22] <kiamo> anyway, im a brit
[06:22] <Kensey> indeed it is
[06:22] <heydabop> Is it possible to update Ubuntu by going into synaptic and marking package ubuntu-desktop for upgrade?
[06:22] <freaky_> nukeDev: ? mostly ppl use gcc/g++ (GNU Compiler Collection)
[06:22] <Judicata> Kensey: not in sealand :)
[06:22] <riotkittie> sealand, ftw
[06:22] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i'm at this command prompt gaspipe1@gaspipe1-desktop:~$
[06:22] <Kensey> adaptr: yeah, at this point the cat's so far out of the bag you can't even see its tail any more
[06:23] <ETAnimation> Anybody able to help with my WIFI problem?!
[06:23] <gaspipe1> adaptr: is this the right place to start?
[06:23] <kiamo> well assuming im aloud to play dvds...
[06:23] <adaptr> nukeDev: gcc is the C++ compiler for GNU/Linux
[06:23] <Alzi2> Hello. I am reinstalling my grandpa's laptop, and, while installing, it won't detect the network card. Can anybody help me with this?
[06:23] <dust> ETAnimation: what?
[06:23] <Kensey> but I remember stashing a copy of DeCSS on a spare hard drive "just in case"
[06:23] <kleftisx> hello when im going to run Synaptic Package Manager i get the following error "You have 1 broken package on your system!". What should i do?
[06:23] <heydabop> What's the problem ET?
[06:23] <adaptr> gaspipe1: a prompt is a prompt.. that doesn't matter
[06:23] <nukeDev> adaptr: k thanks
[06:23] <Kensey> kiamo: I think you have to install a restricted-formats package first
[06:23] <adaptr> !build | nukeDev
[06:23] <ubotu> nukeDev: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:23] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok... so what line should i type
[06:24] <adaptr> gaspipe1: the one I gave you last
[06:24] <ETAnimation> Dust: My 2200BG is recognised
[06:24] <ardchoille42> adaptr, Does the drive need to be unmounted in order for fdisk to work?
[06:24] <daddydoc> this is going by too fast, how do I look at just message directed toward s me?
[06:24] <daddydoc> this is going by too fast, how do I look at just message directed toward s me?
[06:24] <adaptr> ardchoille42: nope
[06:24] <ETAnimation> Dust: But when I go to connect I get a SCIO.... error
[06:24] <adaptr> archangelpetro: you just need to be root, since it addresses the device directly
[06:24] <Kensey> daddydoc: many IRC programs highlight messages with your nick in them
[06:24] <adaptr> sorry, ardchoille42
[06:24] <gaspipe1> adaptr: sudu fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:24] <adaptr> :(
[06:24] <ardchoille42> adaptr, Ah, ok
[06:24] <adaptr> gaspipe1: no, that is *not* what I wrote
[06:24] <kleftisx> hello when im going to run Synaptic Package Manager i get the following error "You have 1 broken package on your system!". What should i do?
[06:24] <daddydoc> but this channel is so active, I cant read the message before it goes off screen
[06:24] <daddydoc> but this channel is so active, I cant read the message before it goes off screen
[06:24] <heydabop> Kensey: So that's why messages I get are green.
[06:25] <ryanakca> where can I find a list with all the supported wireless cards
[06:25] <Judicata> daddydoc: scroll?
[06:25] <heydabop> Daddydoc: Can't you scroll up?
[06:25] <ETAnimation> Anyone know how to fix SIOCGIRGLAGS errors?
[06:25] <kiamo> i think i installed something like that yesterday kensey, and managed to get my nice newly bought LOTR to play but i dont get any menus and the extras disk wont play anything but some random credits and iv got no menu..
[06:25] <ardchoille42> gaspipe1, "l" and "L" are NOT the same thing
[06:25] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: well didn't break anythign, let me doublecheck on my packages here. what were the 3 you mentioned and I check. I belive I got them.
[06:25] <adaptr> daddydoc: what client do you use ? set it to ignore channel/part/join messages
[06:25] <heydabop> Et: No.
[06:25] <adaptr> ardchoille42: in this case they are :)
[06:25] <kiamo> trying to play other vobs doesnt work either... lol
[06:26] <adaptr> kiamo: then use !VLC
[06:26] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: ok, then let me know what the "vedor string" part says when you do "fglrxinfo"
[06:26] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i copied "fdisk -l /dev/(disk)" from your line b4
[06:26] <gaspipe1> adaptr:  so sudu fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:26] <adaptr> gaspipe1: I wrote you the exact command you have to run: sudo fdisk -L /dev/sda
[06:26] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you really need to read closer, or get sleep
[06:26] <ShadowX> greetings
[06:27] <heydabop> Is it possible to update Ubuntu by going into synaptic and marking package ubuntu-desktop for upgrade?
[06:27] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok
[06:27] <daddydoc> ok
[06:27] <daddydoc> i am using xchat
[06:27] <daddydoc> is there a better one?
[06:27] <adaptr> heydabop: no
[06:27] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: server glx vendor string: SGI
[06:27] <adaptr> heydabop: running Dapper ?
[06:27] <Judicata> daddydoc: you can scroll with xchat.
[06:27] <kiamo> adaptr iv tried but the program just closes when i try to open a dvd
[06:27] <ShadowX> <!--NOOB QUESTION--!>
[06:27] <adaptr> kiamo: how did you install vlc ?
[06:27] <heydabop> adaptr: Yea, 6.06, I want to go to 6.10.
[06:27] <ShadowX> does anyone know of a good introduction to Linux that teaches you using Ubuntu?
[06:27] <kiamo> umm
[06:27] <FunnyLookinHat> ShadowX, I love n00ber questions
[06:28] <adaptr> ShadowX: please DON'T DO THAT!
[06:28] <adaptr> !ask | ShadowX
[06:28] <ubotu> ShadowX: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:28] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: when you type "fglrxinfo" (not glxinfo), there isn't a "OpenGL vendor string:" line?
[06:28] <ShadowX> lol sorry
[06:28] <ardchoille42> adaptr, I don't see a "-L" option in man fdisk. Are sudu fdisk -l and sudo fdisk -L the same thing?
[06:28] <kiamo> downloaded the vlc ubuntu file from videolans site and did what it said
[06:28] <Kensey> heydabop,  that way lies madness
[06:28] <kiamo> cant remember what that was now..
[06:28] <Herpes> hey guys
[06:28] <kiamo> should i have used apt-get?
[06:28] <heydabop> Kensey: What?
[06:28] <adaptr> heydabop: there are two options: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, or sudo update-manager -c
[06:28] <daddydoc> does chown also be used to change permissions of a folder?
[06:28] <heydabop> adaptr: Ok, thanks.
[06:28] <Kensey> you want to use the official update manager, not synaptic or apt-get
[06:28] <Herpes> i've installed Ubuntu with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype?highlight=%28install.exe%29 (really nice idea guys!)
[06:29] <ShadowX> does anyone know of a good introduction to Linux that teaches you using Ubuntu?
[06:29] <Gorlist> Evening people - quick question though not directly Ubuntu related
[06:29] <FunnyLookinHat> ShadowX, the biggest thing to understand is that you install EVERYTHING either via Add/Remove under the Applications menu or via Synaptic (System - Admin. - Synaptic)
[06:29] <ardchoille42> daddydoc, chown changes ownership, chmod changes permissions
[06:29] <Gorlist> is their any Linux version of Visual Basic?
[06:29] <gaspipe1> !paste
[06:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:29] <AlexC_> Gorlist: lol, no.
[06:29] <adaptr> ardchoille42: well, I am 100% sure it was still -L in Dapper.. it seems they changed that :(
[06:29] <Judicata> Gorlist: *gasp*
[06:29] <Kensey> back around edgy release were many long threads of woe from people who didn't use update-manafer and/or had systems screwed up by third-party package utils
[06:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> hey guys, anyone know a solution to the problem here? http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg139467.html
[06:29] <Herpes> everything worked almost perfect, but when i updated the system and kernel it stopped working
[06:29] <adaptr> gaspipe1: note that, it's -l (small L) , not -L
[06:29] <AlexC_> Gorlist: VB is made by Microsoft, do you think they'd make a Linux version?
[06:29] <FunnyLookinHat> ShadowX, Avoid compiling your own programs because they are more than likely already in the repositories
[06:29] <ardchoille42> adaptr, Yeah, they must have changed it, I'm on Dapper
[06:29] <Gorlist> well i mean more because of the simply drag drop editor thing :)
[06:29] <gaspipe1> adaptr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2439/
[06:29] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:30] <Gorlist> not so much Visual basic as in its self :)
[06:30] <FunnyLookinHat> ShadowX, and enjoy this:    https://help.ubuntu.com/
[06:30] <daddydoc> so, can I chown and chmod a folder?
[06:30] <phaidros> anybody knows an edgy kernel image for Xen AND Vserver ??
[06:30] <speedracer> daddydoc, yes
[06:30] <gaspipe1> adaptr:  that was the message i got
[06:30] <AlexC_> Gorlist: you can use Glade to create interfaces, like in VB
[06:30] <phaidros> (as DomU running vservers)
[06:30] <heydabop> Kensey: What do you mean saying that way lies with maddness?
[06:30] <daddydoc> i will try now
[06:30] <kiamo> adaptr, downloaded the vlc ubuntu file from videolans site and did what it said
[06:30] <heydabop> Oh, whoops.
[06:30] <adaptr> gaspipe1: I know.. please read everything I type for you - nobody's perfect
[06:30] <heydabop> Never mind.
[06:30] <Gorlist> right will do a search for it - thanks!
[06:30] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: ok, repaste your xorg.conf for me, please. and if you just search for "fglrx" in Synaptic, those two pacakges should pop up so you can see ith they're installed.
[06:30] <ShadowX> FunnyLookinHat, I understand that. what I need is something that teaches you about Linux in general, but also about Ubuntu. I know very little Linux, but everything I find to teach you uses Red Hat or Fedora......it gets annoying lol
[06:30] <Herpes> when it boots the system is missing some directories and i get it busybox
[06:30] <speedracer> i used gparted to make a partition ... how do i mount that partition and keep it mounted?
[06:30] <oFF-beAt> seeing microsoft/... i wish i invented wheels n copyrighted it.. i'd b the richest man in the world
[06:30] <adaptr> kiamo: that's... stupid, install the Ubuntu package
[06:31] <Judicata> ShadowX: do you want a book or an online guide, or does it matter?
[06:31] <ctothej> i have fstab loading an smbfs drive, how can i set it so that my user account has full access?
[06:31] <ardchoille42> gaspipe1, Can you pastebin what you get with: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:31] <FunnyLookinHat> ShadowX, there is actually an official ubuntu book, and if you dont mind paying 15 or 20 dollars I would HIGHLY recommend it actually
[06:31] <o0splitpaw0o> alright
[06:31] <Herpes> what can i do to boot it porperly ?
[06:31] <ShadowX> preferably online guide
[06:31] <Kensey> heydabop, are you using automatix or any software installed from non-Ubuntu repositories?
[06:31] <adaptr> !rute | ShadowX
[06:31] <ubotu> ShadowX: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:31] <phaidros> gosh, is that channel full .. is there a ubuntu-server irc?
[06:31] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2436/
[06:31] <Kensey> ah he left
[06:31] <ShadowX> but a book would be ok, if its not TOO Xpensive
[06:31] <phaidros> (a non-devel-only?)
[06:31] <ardchoille42> adaptr, Well, it would help if they wouldn't change things
[06:31] <adaptr> ShadowX: the last link is a general introduction to lots of terms you NEED to know
[06:31] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i think this is it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2440/
[06:31] <FunnyLookinHat> ShadowX, but that site links to https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html     which is exactly what you need probably
[06:31] <AlexC_> ShadowX: the best thing you can do is to use Ubuntu, ask questions when you get stuck, visit the forums - you'll get better over time
[06:32] <Judicata> ShadowX: ubuntuguide.org is unofficial, but supposed to be pretty good.
[06:32] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: ok, checking it out.
[06:32] <Kensey> Judicata, didn't I hear something about Sealand being up for sale recently?
[06:32] <gaspipe1> adaptr: it that right?
[06:32] <adaptr> gaspipe1: yes - what's on the second disk ? oh who cares; do you still have the grub config open ?
[06:32] <D0wN> Do you guys help out with the windows installer?
[06:32] <Herpes> Kensey, buysealand.com ?
[06:32] <Judicata> Kensey: yeah, the pirate bay wants to buy it :)
[06:32] <adaptr> D0wN: erm.. no
[06:32] <ShadowX> one issue I keep having is when I download a new program, and its only source
[06:32] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: I was hoping to see the new version with the edit.
[06:32] <AlexC_> D0wN: doubt it since it's not official supported
[06:33] <gaspipe1> adaptr: the menu.lst
[06:33] <ShadowX> all the time I fight with linux, I have YET to successfully compile something lol
[06:33] <Herpes> D0wN, let me guess you updated ubuntu and it stopped working?
[06:33] <D0wN> Dang. Okay. =)
[06:33] <Judicata> ShadowX: see if the program you want is in the repository first (i.e., by using synaptic).
[06:33] <gaspipe1> adaptr: if thats it yes...
[06:33] <ZeZu> how can i force gcc to use certain options when i execute a configure script ?
[06:33] <adaptr> D0wN: as far as "the windows installer" is defined as "the thing that install Windows"
[06:33] <ZeZu> like -Tidt.ld ?
[06:33] <ShadowX> I have
[06:33] <AlexC_> ShadowX: what are you tring to install?
[06:33] <kiamo> how do i uninstall programs iv compiled and installed that way?
[06:33] <ShadowX> for example, Gnome-art
[06:33] <adaptr> gaspipe1: change every instance of (hd1,1) to (hd0,1)
[06:33] <AlexC_> s/tring/trying
[06:33] <D0wN> No. It won't even boot up yet. The loading bar at the splash screen doesn't move
[06:33] <Judicata> ShadowX: ok, what program?
[06:33] <ShadowX> I ran the setup.sh and made sure I installed Ruby from Synaptic
[06:34] <ardchoille42> ShadowX, The best thing to do first is check the repos for the app you want. Ubuntu repos are huge and the app in question may be in the repos allowing you to install it easily with APT
[06:34] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok...i will copy and paste for u'r review ok
[06:34] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: xorg-driver-fglrx , fglrx-control ,  are installed. I got a few others here to that popped. I don't know if they are needed, or just eating up diskspace I added (ealier trying to get running
[06:34] <adaptr> gaspipe1: and change the Windows entry to (hd0,0) and remove the map() commands
[06:34] <ShadowX> but when I try running Gnomeart, it gives some error, Im assuming Ruby related
[06:34] <adaptr> gaspipe1: grub setup got it wrong - again :)
[06:34] <AlexC_> ShadowX: then tell us what error, were not physic
[06:34] <Herpes> D0wN, just after you boot ubuntu in the windows boot loader hit escape and select the boot ubuntu recovery hda
[06:34] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: don't worry about the others. can you please re-paste your xorg.conf (how it looks right now?)
[06:34] <adaptr> gaspipe1: please do; if you get it wrong it won't boot (but it doesn't boot now, so heh)
[06:34] <ShadowX> ardchoille42, I know you can add new repos to Synaptic, would you reccomend any besides the default ones?
[06:34] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: ok one momemt
[06:35] <Herpes> D0wN, and btw dont upgrade the kernel
[06:35] <hluzp1am> hello
[06:35] <nukeDev> hi
[06:35] <AlexC_> hey
[06:35] <Judicata> ShadowX: if you have a long error, make sure to use pastebin.
[06:35] <ardchoille42> ShadowX, gnome art is in the universe repo. enable universe and do: sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[06:35] <D0wN> I've went to all of them. Only the one that sends you to a terminal works
[06:35] <ardchoille42> ShadowX, I've been using Ubuntu since hoary and have never had to compile anything
[06:36] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2443/
[06:36] <ShadowX> just remember, Im a total linux noob. I know a few basics, but that is totally it
[06:36] <kiamo> how do i remove all traces of mplayer from my computer?
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> ShadowX, although they are technically unnecessary, if you want access to certain restricted formats yo ushould add the universe and multiverse repositories
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted < ShadowX
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted > ShadowX
[06:36] <ZeZu> anyone?  I need to pass -Tidt.ld to gcc in a configure script globally, can anyone tell me how i can ?
[06:36] <ardchoille42> ShadowX, It may be beneficial to you to visit http://ubuntuforums.org and maybe bookmark it. Lots of good info there.
[06:36] <speedracer> what's a gui for managing mounts
[06:36] <gaspipe1> adaptr: what about on the bottum where it says map?
[06:37] <speedracer> drive mounts
[06:37] <speedracer> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[06:37] <ShadowX> you guys are telling me to enable Universal. how the heck do I do that?
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted | ShadowX
[06:37] <ubotu> ShadowX: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <ardchoille42> !repos | ShadowX
[06:37] <ubotu> ShadowX: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:37] <gaspipe1> adaptr: map		(hd0) (hd1)
[06:37] <gaspipe1> map		(hd1) (hd0)
[06:37] <Balsamic_Chicken> hey guys, anyone know a solution to the problem here? http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg139467.html
[06:37] <adaptr> gaspipe1: I told you to remove those
[06:38] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: ok, what kind of card is it?
[06:38] <hluzp1am> i found a bug in ubuntu wiki engine, where should I report it? Where on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ ?
[06:38] <adaptr> Balsamic_Chicken: unless it's your problem, and you can state it in at most 3 lines of post, unlikely
[06:38] <gaspipe1> adaptr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2444/
[06:38] <nukeDev> When you use apt-get and then with some files it was a confirmation about the space it will take up, it there not anyway to make it so it automatically presses yes...?
[06:38] <Sivik-bed> nukeDev, yes
[06:38] <gaspipe1> adaptr: is that good
[06:38] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: It's a ATI Radeon 9550 250 MB made by.. ah vendor...Saphire
[06:38] <Sivik-bed> nukeDev, use the -y after you type apt-get
[06:39] <Sivik-bed> nukeDev, -y means automately choose yes for installing
[06:39] <ShadowX> ok, I enabled Universe. so does anything really change, as far as USING Synaptic? or is it all still the same, only with more software
[06:39] <speedracer> how can i get gnome-mount? ??/?
[06:39] <speedracer> please
[06:39] <nukeDev> sivik-bed, thanks never knew that in 2 years of using ubuntu :D
[06:39] <Sivik-bed> ShadowX, more packages avalible
[06:39] <Sivik-bed> nukeDev, all you would have had to do is read the man for aptitude
[06:39] <ShadowX> ok, Im starting to get the hang of it here
[06:39] <nukeDev> k
[06:40] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you can remove the makeactive line for Windows as well - that is not needed
[06:40] <ardchoille42> ShadowX, Once you enable a new repo, you need to update. If you're using Synaptic, hit the update button. If you're using apt-get do: sudo apt-get update  Then you can search/install stuff from the new repos
[06:40] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok
[06:40] <adaptr> gaspipe1: but it's not essential
[06:40] <speedracer> can anyone please tell me how i can get gnome-mount on my pc
[06:40] <speedracer> or anything similar
[06:40] <adaptr> gaspipe1: save the file, and reboot !
[06:40] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: i'm looking into this.
[06:40] <Balsamic_Chicken> adaptr cool, what did u say btw?
[06:40] <Sivik-bed> speedracer, gnome-mount?
[06:40] <adaptr> Balsamic_Chicken: ?
[06:41] <gaspipe1> adaptr: ok...brb... i hope
[06:41] <Herpes> where can i get support for the ubuntu windows installer=
[06:41] <Herpes> ?
[06:41] <ShadowX> ok, another question. since Im a classic Windows junkie (I dont like Windows, I just have to have some of the media production software), are there any REALLY GOOD video editors for Linux?
[06:41] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: ok
[06:41] <speedracer> Sivik-bed, dunno.  i just would like some gui to manage disk mounts
[06:41] <adaptr> !cinelerra | ShadowX
[06:41] <ubotu> ShadowX: cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[06:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> adaptr > ?
[06:41] <Sivik-bed> speedracer, gnome normally does that automatily
[06:41] <adaptr> Balsamic_Chicken: what are you doing ?
[06:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> adaptr what were u doing..
[06:42] <ShadowX> ok, what about Games? any "windows-quality" (or better) games for Lin?
[06:42] <thor> there is a single 'apt-get install' command that will install gcc and associated software...does anyone here know it?
[06:42] <Sivik> thor: yes, apt-get install build-essential
[06:42] <ardchoille42> ShadowX, "window" and "quality" should not be used in the same sentence, lol
[06:42] <|Jason8|> !mp3
[06:42] <ys76> get yourself?
[06:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <Enverex> ShadowX, Doom 3, Quake 4, UT2004
[06:42] <ShadowX> btw thanks guys! Gnome-art is working
[06:42] <thor> thanks Sivik
[06:42] <Sivik> ShadowX, wow
[06:43] <Sivik> ShadowX, WoW works as well
[06:43] <ShadowX> what Sivik? amazed at how stupid someone can actually be about linux? lol
[06:43] <Sivik> ShadowX, nwn
[06:43] <speedracer> Sivik, i just formatted a partition, it isn't mounted ... i would like to mount it and keep it mounted in the same place... i was looking for a gui to do that
[06:43] <Sivik> speedracer, not sure, i don't do stuff very often like that from a gui
[06:44] <aKKiLLa> Hey guys.  I just converted my laptop over to Ubuntu for my development comp and I am looking for a nice professional FTP client.  Does anyone have advice?
[06:44] <Sivik> ShadowX, no, i just don't understand why ppl can't search google before asking in this channel
[06:44] <speedracer> yeah, i'm just teaching myself to be lazy
[06:44] <Sivik> aKKiLLa, vsftpd or proftp
[06:44] <TtyS2> i am considering to sett upp a firewall on my ubuntu laptop, what would u advise when chosing between firestarter and firewall builder with iptables?
[06:44] <ShadowX> Ive learned one thing about Googling Linux stuff. if ya dont know anything about Linux already, you're only gonna get more screwed until you ask someone personally lol
[06:44] <kiamo> thor, you dont by any chance live in aberdeen, scotland do you?
[06:45] <Sivik> ShadowX, then look at the wiki for ubuntu or the ubuntuforums.org
[06:45] <ardchoille42> ShadowX, http://www.google.com/linux ;)
[06:45] <thor> nope...on a boat anchored near Stuart Fla at the moment
[06:45] <Juhaz> it's the other way around, asking someone for a direct solution without understanding anything is what gets you more screwed on the long run.
[06:45] <kiamo> i new a guy in aberdeen who used to call himself thor ;)
[06:45] <aKKiLLa> thanks Sivik
[06:46] <ardchoille42> Juhaz, Indeed
[06:46] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: a Saphire ATI Radeon 9550 XLT
[06:46] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: I'm trying to figure this out, but you might go ahead an ask your question to the channel again. If I come up with something I'll let you know. Leave the composite extension disabled.
[06:46] <hluzp1am> I found answer to my question. for the curious: bugs in ubuntu wiki should go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bugs
[06:46] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: ok
[06:47] <ShadowX> can someone help me out with setting up dualmonitors?
[06:47] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: It looks like it should be working.
[06:48] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: is there a command possibly to enable rendering that you know of? I could try it
[06:48] <kiamo> adaptr, what should I do? i think theres something going on with my video encoder or something, as no programs are playing my dvds properly
[06:48] <Sivik> kiamo, try looking for vlc
[06:48] <skvn> how can i mount a fat32 partition so that it won't show on the desktop? ..Did it a few times with different advice and it worked but also made them show on the desktop :P
[06:48] <kiamo> have tried
[06:48] <adaptr> kiamo: did you install the correct VLC package ?
[06:48] <kiamo> it just closes when i try to place a disc
[06:48] <kiamo> yup
[06:49] <kleftisx> anyones knows what desktop program this user uses? http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/data/540/22Oct06-231.png ???
[06:49] <kiamo> same problem
[06:49] <Sivik> kleftisx, thats gnome
[06:49] <kleftisx> :O thx i didnt know that
[06:49] <kiamo> also enabled some more depositories which gave me mplayer in the add/remove bit, and tried to install it but it complained that some files where already there
[06:50] <kiamo> program still opened, but it all crashed and errored on trying to play dvd
[06:50] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: i'll go hunting in the help docks from online, sicne the help file just explains how to install and rerun dpkg, but doesn't tell you how to troubleshoot rendering that I could find
[06:50] <kleftisx> Sivik : i have gnome but i have not those CPU MEM meters e.t.c
[06:50] <Sivik> kleftisx, you have to install those manuelly
[06:50] <adaptr> kiamo: do you have libdvdcss2 installed ?
[06:50] <kleftisx> Sivik : can u explain me how?
[06:50] <Judicata> o0splitpaw0o: i've never had luck with dpkg-reconfigure in these cases.
[06:51] <Sivik> kleftisx, i don't use gnome so i'm not sure
[06:51] <kiamo> not sure anymore, i think i installed it at one point, but iv been fidling away and trying different guides for different programs lol
[06:51] <kiamo> how can i check?
[06:51] <kleftisx> hm ok
[06:51] <Sivik> kiamo, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search dvd playback
[06:51] <adaptr> Sivik: name of the package ?
[06:51] <crake> hello lets hope my connection lasts longer than last time... i want to dmraid to work / its already installed but i dont know how to start it
[06:51] <kiamo> Sivik,  that didnt help me at all :(
[06:51] <Sivik> adaptr: what was your question
[06:51] <crake> im in the console and i tzped dmraid -s  but it sazs i need to be root
[06:51] <adaptr> crake: is it possible you're talking about mdraid ?
[06:51] <Sivik> kiamo: not sure then
[06:52] <gaygeek> hi
[06:52] <crake> no dmraid / i need to get my fakeraid nforce 4 to be recogniyed bz ubuntu
[06:52] <adaptr> Sivik: you said "that is gnome" and then " but I don't use gnome", to the question about the system monitors shown in the screenshot.. so A. how do you know (I don;'t really care), and B. what package is that ?
[06:52] <adaptr> Sivik: I went directly to B. :)
[06:53] <o0splitpaw0o> Judicata: I wanted to stick with my nvidia, but this mainboard I'm using has a conflict with the via and the geofirce chip I had. no bios update work arounds for it either.
[06:53] <adaptr> Sivik: if it's gdesklets - that never works properly for me
[06:53] <ShadowX> how can I use more than 2 Workspaces in gnome?
[06:53] <ShadowX> nm
[06:53] <mnoir> ShadowX: right click and add more
[06:53] <adaptr> Sivik: gdesklets tends to kill my gnome-panel; and I do mean *kill*
[06:53] <RingDonut> ???
[06:53] <crake> quote: "you must be root"
[06:53] <crake> how do i get root
[06:54] <Sivik> adaptr: uh, its looks like a special theme for gnome
[06:54] <adaptr> ShadowX: right-click on the menu of the switcher, and edit preferences
[06:54] <Sivik> crake, use sudo command
[06:54] <ShadowX> crake: sudo
[06:54] <Sivik> crake: or if you want to be "logged in as root" type sudo su
[06:54] <adaptr> Sivik: a system monitor is not part of any "theme" - it's an application
[06:54] <Sivik> adapr: yeah, thats what i said, special theme and earlier i said extra applications
[06:55] <adaptr> Sivik: *which application*
[06:55] <gaygeek> anyone want to share penis pics? :]  -> query pls
[06:55] <Sivik> adapr: hell if i know, i don't use it
[06:55] <gaspipe1> adaptr: hey...awsome...thanks so much
[06:55] <Sivik> gaygeek, we would need a microscope to see yours
[06:55] <gaspipe1> adaptr: works perfect!
[06:55] <ShadowX> I can honestly say, this is the longest I have ever used Linux at one time. all morning long, all night last night. Im proud of myself lol
[06:55] <adaptr> gaspipe1: I knowerst :)
[06:55] <Sivik> ShadowX, good for you
[06:56] <adaptr> Sivik: yet, this is what you said...
[06:56] <kiamo> hehe nice one ShadowX, another few years and we will know what we are doing ;)
[06:56] <Sivik> adaprt: i said that is gnome, but i don't use it and you have to install those things manuelly
[06:56] <ShadowX> lol har har kiamo
[06:56] <Sivik> adaptr: i said that is gnome, but i don't use it and you have to install those things manuelly
[06:56] <adaptr> Sivik: yes, in response to the OPs question about the system monitors shown
[06:56] <zoli2k> rhythmbox eats 2x-3x more cpu durring mp3 decoding as xmms with libmpg123. It is possible change the gstreamer codec in rhythmbox?
[06:57] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i'll be on later try'n to update from synaptic package mngr
[06:57] <del4> rythmbox is bad.
[06:57] <kiamo> how can I uninstall something iv make installed?
[06:57] <del4> i dont like it.
[06:57] <adaptr> gaspipe1: "trying" ? it
[06:57] <gaspipe1> adaptr thanks again.... c u later
[06:57] <adaptr> 's's so easy even your granny can do it
[06:57] <Sivik> adaptr: i really wouldn't care if i was explaining to the presendent, i would have said the same thing
[06:57] <ShadowX> dang, this thing isnt as hard as it seems :P
[06:57] <adaptr> Sivik: noted
[06:58] <NeoGeo64> does soundblaster xfi work in ubuntu
[06:58] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i don't know what is good to install....
[06:58] <Sivik> adaptr: so whats the problem
[06:58] <ShadowX> I just have to totally erase every ounce of computing knowledge I have related to Winblows
[06:58] <adaptr> Sivik: I asked what the program was that draws that system monitor, that's all
[06:58] <Sivik> NeoGeo64, yes, creative have linux drivers for thier software
[06:58] <brandonbl79> !fstab
[06:58] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:58] <gaspipe1> adaptr:  try to have my printer/scanner to work, mp3's
[06:58] <zoli2k> del4, I used xmms for 5 years, I recently changed to rhythmbox, but this cpu problem is frustrating me.
[06:58] <|Jason8|> I really like winamp for music stuff, is there a program for ubuntu that acts like winamp?  Rhythmbox is sort of lame.
[06:58] <Sivik> adaptr: and i said i have no clue, i have never used it
[06:58] <brandonbl79> !PARTITIONS
[06:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:58] <adaptr> gaspipe1: mp3s are easy,. printers sorta, scanner heavily depends on the type
[06:58] <brandonbl79> !DISKMOUNTER
[06:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:58] <brandonbl79> !FUSE
[06:58] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:59] <adaptr> Sivik: I know that by now, you asked what my problem was - that is it
[06:59] <LonerVamp> |Jason8|: I think XMMS is most like winamp.
[06:59] <Sivik> adaptr: well, you seemed mad
[06:59] <zoli2k> Jason8, xmms
[06:59] <|Jason8|> XMMS?  okay.
[06:59] <adaptr> !caps | brandonbl79
[06:59] <ubotu> brandonbl79: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:59] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i was afraid of that... i have a brothers mfc 5100c and didn't see any on the list
[06:59] <|Jason8|> is there a package for it?
[06:59] <LonerVamp> Should be, yeah
[06:59] <NeoGeo64> |Jason8|, sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:59] <brandonbl79> ok
[06:59] <adaptr> Sivik: not at all, I thought I read that you knew what the program was
[06:59] <jatt> is there any utility to convert a .png image to .svg format?
[06:59] <NeoGeo64> |Jason8|, MIGHT wanna install it from Synaptic though, might be some deps you need.
[06:59] <Sivik> adaptr: unfortently not, sorry if i seemed rude
[06:59] <adaptr> jatt: several
[07:00] <adaptr> Sivik: np
[07:00] <brandonbl79> want to unmount all my drives and start over.   What is the best document to help me with this.
[07:00] <Sivik> adaptr: i just had way too many questions at one
[07:00] <jatt> adaptr: could you mention one?
[07:00] <adaptr> Sivik: you need a secretary :)
[07:00] <Sivik> adaptr: yes
[07:00] <oFF-beAt> why the heck is synaptic trying to update ATI drivers?? i got nvidia
[07:00] <gaspipe1> Judicata: what chat program are u using?
[07:01] <brandonbl79> !mountpartitions
[07:01] <Sivik> oFF-beAt, cause ati is stupid
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountpartitions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <brandonbl79> !unmount
[07:01] <altu> hi people
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <zoli2k> gaspipe1, gaim
[07:01] <Sivik> brandonbl79, its umount, not unmount
[07:01] <|Jason8|> gah.  archive.ubuntu.com.  any chance that's an ftp?
[07:01] <brandonbl79> !umount
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <oFF-beAt> it's not ati.. it's synaptic bein stupid
[07:01] <daddydoc> how do I change the group to root,,,, I have already changed owner to root with chown???
[07:01] <gaspipe1> zoli2k: so am i... i tried im or pm some people and they never got it
[07:02] <brandonbl79> sivik what it the most helpful documentation i can find about mounting and unmounting drives
[07:02] <daddydoc> for a directory?
[07:02] <Sivik> brandonbl79, the man for mount
[07:02] <gaspipe1> zoli2k: i was just wondering what the pro's here are using
[07:02] <brandonbl79> where do i get that?
[07:02] <jatt> adaptr: you claim there are several .png->.svg converters for ubuntu. Could you please mention one? I've only found a gimp plugin which reads .svg files only.
[07:02] <gaspipe1> adaptr: what chat program are u using?
[07:02] <Sivik> brandonbl79, man mount
[07:02] <kiamo> when I apt-get update i get the folllowing error: W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[07:02] <brandonbl79> man mount
[07:02] <Sivik> gaspipe1, i use xchat
[07:02] <ctothej> I need some with mounting. I had fstab mounting 2 ntfs drives with ntfs-3g, but after i plugged in a usb flash drive and restarted, the drives changed from being on /dev/sdd to /dev/sde ! how can i make it so that they dont change? or that it mounts the particular volumes all the time no matter what else is plugged in?
[07:03] <daddydoc> how do I change the group to root,,,, I have already changed owner to root with chown???
[07:03] <gaspipe1> siv is it any good? have you tried others
[07:03] <daddydoc> for a directory?
[07:03] <AlexC_> kiamo: you need to install a key for that respority
[07:03] <zoli2k> gaspipe1, I never experienced any serious problemm with gaim
[07:03] <gaspipe1> Sivik: srry... any good.... have u tried others
[07:03] <adaptr> gaspipe1: Konversation
[07:03] <Sivik> gaspipe1, there are many
[07:03] <kiamo> AlexC_, how do i find the key and how do I find out how to install the key ;)
[07:04] <maxsoft> hi all. I've 'suspend' and not dont start. can you help me please? thank you.
[07:04] <AlexC_> kiamo: where did you get the extra respority from?
[07:04] <gaspipe1> adaptr: it's the best in u own oppin.
[07:04] <daddydoc> how do I change the group to root,,,, I have already changed owner to root with chown???
[07:04] <daddydoc> for a directory?
[07:04] <kiamo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/CVS
[07:04] <zoli2k> gaspipe1, I using gaim for ICQ, IRC and MSN for 2 years and all my messages were sent ;)
[07:04] <adaptr> jatt: I must have been confusing it.. there are several things that convert to png and from svg, but not one to the other directly, apparently.. if you can convert png to postscript then PS to svg should be easy...
[07:04] <gaspipe1> zoli2k: I SENT U A IM....DID U SEE IT?
[07:04] <ctothej> daddydoc: chgrp maybe
[07:04] <AlexC_> daddydoc: wait for me than 1 minute before asking again
[07:04] <adaptr> gaspipe1: huh ?
[07:04] <zoli2k> gaspipe1, nope
[07:04] <gaspipe1> srry caps
[07:05] <daddydoc> how do I turn off the joining/quiting channel thing in xchat?
[07:05] <gaspipe1> adaptr: do u recommend Konversation?
[07:05] <nixen9> hi everyone, got a sound related problem, my card is working, the module is loaded but the volume is way too low (checked alsamixer and everything - still too low) any idea (something like a boost option in my .asoundrc) (i'm using a cs46xx card) ?
[07:06] <Aggort> Hey, I want to update from Dapper to Edgy, I've read a few guides, but they just gave some standard pre-cautions and other minor details. I have everythign backed up already, so is there anything else I should really know before attempting to upgrade? Like is it safe to upgrade?
[07:06] <h3xis> daddydoc, erm...that's kind of part of IRC. you can't really turn it off i dont think
[07:06] <maxsoft> help help!
[07:06] <adaptr> gaspipe1: well, I'v been using it for quite some time now, and it has several strong pros, such as easy highlighting, good browser integration, and full keyboard control (you don't need the mouse)
[07:06] <AlexC_> kiamo: .. you didn't add the respotity  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy from that page
[07:07] <jojoman02> Question: how do i get the new black macbook wifi working?
[07:07] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i'll give it a try
[07:07] <zoli2k> Aggort, I updated Hoary -> dapper -> edgy -> feisty without problem
[07:07] <adaptr> gaspipe1: but there are some things missing that make irssi or bitchx (the pro default choices) superior in the long run.. except that both of those are text-based
[07:07] <daddydoc> it is an option in mirc for windows
[07:07] <AlexC_> kiamo: no where on that page even mentions  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy
[07:07] <kiamo> AlexC_, how did you find it?
[07:07] <gaspipe1> zoli2k: i saw u'r im... but u can't see mine huh....wierd
[07:07] <daddydoc> to turn off enter/quiting messages
[07:07] <adaptr> gaspipe1: konversation is relatively easy to use, and works very dependably
[07:07] <AlexC_> kiamo: I didn't find it, you did.
[07:07] <AlexC_> kiamo: where did you find  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy ?
[07:07] <gaspipe1> adaptr: sounds good to me
[07:07] <ardchoille42> gaspipe1, Yes, ther eis a way to ignore joins/quits in xchat, but I forget the command. Try #xchat maybe?
[07:07] <kiamo> AlexC_, haha no i mean that repository
[07:07] <Aggort> zoli2k - I was just nervous because I read some pretty wicked things. Someone told me I;d lose my software, but I don;t beleive that, but thanks!
[07:07] <kiamo> i think i searched for help on installing mplayer or something
[07:08] <AlexC_> kiamo: yeah, I didn't find the respority  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy - you did
[07:08] <adaptr> h3xis: nonsense - you can disable showing any join/part/channel messages - as you say, it is part of IRC :)
[07:08] <zoli2k> gaspipe1, my gaim is 2.0.0beta5
[07:08] <gaspipe1> #xchat
[07:08] <xavier21700> join #ubuntu-fr
[07:08] <AlexC_> kiamo: link me to the page where you saw to add  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy as another respority
[07:08] <kolla_> from "deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper konversation-nightly"
[07:08] <ardchoille42> gaspipe1, /join #xchat
[07:08] <h3xis> adaptr, ah, wasnt aware then XD of course it would be retarded to do so
[07:08] <gaspipe1> ardchoille42: that didn't work
[07:08] <zoli2k> Aggort, do you have your home directory on separate partition?
[07:08] <kiamo> oh, wait...
[07:08] <ardchoille42> gaspipe1, /join #xchat didn't work?
[07:08] <kiamo> huh..
[07:08] <mnoir> daddydoc: been asked before - i don't remember an answer given.  This is one reason I use konversation
[07:08] <kiamo> i dont know anymore
[07:08] <adaptr> h3xis: most X clients offer an easy menu command to set this for you - jst convenience
[07:08] <Aggort> zolik2k   yea
[07:09] <kiamo> i guess it was one of the repostories from another tut...
[07:09] <maxsoft> I've turn off with "suspend" and not dont start... can you help me please?
[07:09] <kiamo> probably for debootstrap (which i never got to work)
[07:09] <ShadowX> hmm, I was just about to ask about an iPod manager, but Rythmbox decided to answer the question itself lol
[07:09] <h3xis> adaptr, not that i want to but how do you do it in xchat then?
[07:09] <IBMg41> hey...kinda an edgy noob here.....does anyone know how to keep the wireless card alive when the laptop lid is closed?
[07:09] <christopherl> Is it possible to unmount the current filesystem? Im trying to do that but the device is busy. I don't know what things it busy with, how can I find out?
[07:09] <AlexC_> kiamo: here, I found this for you: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg
[07:09] <adaptr> h3xis: what I like about konversation is that it doesn't totally hide channel messages - it redirects them to a "server" window that holds all system output
[07:09] <daddydoc> ok I am trying to move files from 1 hd to another.  I have chown to reflect root, but the group remains 1000.   I am trying copy or  ctrl- but I cant paste it in the new directory. Anysuggestions?
[07:09] <riotkittie> try looking in Xchat options :P
[07:09] <h3xis> riotkittie, i have.
[07:09] <AlexC_> kiamo: use that command in terminal, then sudo apt-key add *.gpg
[07:10] <Aggort> So I'm good to go then?
[07:10] <|Jason8|> Best Help Channel Ever1
[07:11] <kiamo> YAY it works
[07:11] <kiamo> thanks AlexC_
[07:11] <ShadowX> ok, got a situation here, and the perfect learning moment
[07:11] <kiamo> how did you find the key?
[07:11] <zoli2k> Aggort, so the worst thing what can happen that if anything falls, you need only reinstall your linux from CD ( but I never did this with ubuntu)
[07:11] <AlexC_> kiamo: youre welcome
[07:11] <adaptr> h3xis: CHANOPT to set options for separate channels
[07:11] <AlexC_> kiamo: I simply went to http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[07:11] <Smirnov> i edited my fstab file but two of the smb folders didnt get mounted until i ran sudo mount -a ?
[07:11] <h3xis> adaptr, i see
[07:11] <ShadowX> XMMS hung up and wont close or respond. what is the best and safest way for me to stop its process?
[07:11] <mnoir> daddydoc: 1.  why did you change the owner - is root supposed to own them? 2.  exactly what command are you using?
[07:11] <Judicata> gaspipe1: you asked me a long time ago, but I'm using irssi right now (sometimes I use EPIC - based on ircII) - I just have trouble liking the gui clients.
[07:11] <kiamo> AlexC_,  i see, haha, i should have thought of that ..
[07:11] <AlexC_> ShadowX: in terminal, "killall xmms"
[07:11] <h3xis> ShadowX, sudo killall xmms
[07:11] <AlexC_> kiamo: hehe
[07:12] <Aggort> zoli2k thanks, I thought so! Just you read things and you start to wonder. Especially since I had a bad experience with an other distro about 2 years ago
[07:12] <Aggort> Well I am off to update
[07:12] <brandonbl79> !fstab
[07:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:12] <zoli2k> h3xis, sudo is not needed
[07:12] <brandonbl79> !partitions
[07:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:12] <Smirnov> brandonbl79: it works ok when i do mount -a, but the folders dont get mounted on startup like they should?
[07:12] <Dreamglider> do i need a special edition of ubuntu to run on my laptop with centrino duo ??
[07:12] <daddydoc> my raid disks were screwed up.  It changed the root owner to 1000.  I want to access the files to move them to a good had
[07:12] <h3xis> zoli2k, i know, i just realized that :P
[07:12] <ShadowX> HOLY HECK! just as I figured, so much better than Windows. even when killing a process lol
[07:12] <brandonbl79> !diskmounter
[07:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:13] <ShadowX> Im just glad I have a girlfriend and am straight, otherwise, it'd be hard for me not to love Linux too much :P
[07:13] <AlexC_> ShadowX: yeah you don't end up clicking "End Task" 100 times, then waiting 5 mins for it to close
[07:13] <daddydoc> i used sudo chown -R root /directory
[07:13] <TtyS2> if i add 1gb of ram to my ubuntu pc, will i need to adjust any thing manually, or will ubuntu handle every thing for me?
[07:13] <daddydoc> it changed the ownership to root
[07:13] <h3xis> ShadowX, why, would you be using a mac otherwise :P
[07:13] <AlexC_> TtyS2: everythign will be automatic
[07:13] <daddydoc> but left group at 1000
[07:13] <TtyS2> thanks AlexC_
[07:13] <ShadowX> I never used "End Task" I always went straight to the Process table and Ended it that way, which STILL wasnt 100% successful
[07:13] <selahone> !identd
[07:13] <gaspipe1> adaptr: i dl the file Konversation, how do i install....1st time ;)
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <daddydoc> all I want is to move files, but the copy doesnt work in the graphical interface
[07:14] <adaptr> gaspipe1: you "dl'ed" ?
[07:14] <ardchoille42> daddydoc, If you want to change the group also, do: chown user:group  (where user is the username and group is the name of the group)
[07:14] <adaptr> !software | gaspipe1
[07:14] <ubotu> gaspipe1: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[07:14] <ShadowX> yea, actually Im still getting a mac sometime. that way I can finally ditch windows. use Mac for my media production, and linux for everything else!! w00t
[07:14] <kiamo> "sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" with this command should i change breezy to edgy because i installed an edgy debootstrap?
[07:14] <klm-> how do I close firefox via processes?
[07:14] <selahone> !ident
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <daddydoc> i will try that
[07:14] <zoli2k> klm, there must be a firefox-bin process
[07:14] <AlexC_> klm-: press alt+f2 then type "killall firefox"
[07:15] <riotkittie> klm-:  kill firefox-bin  or ps ax | grep firefox ... and then kill <PID>
[07:15] <zoli2k> klm-: killall firefox-bin
[07:15] <linux_user400354> when i get to the gdm login screen after installing the nvidia driver, i cant see the whole screen at once. if i move my mouse to one of the edges, then the screen will move in that direction. if i move my mouse to the top for example, the screen will scroll up and then i cant see the options button at the bottom anymore. does anyone else have that problem? it is similar to playing a game when the game when the resolution does not
[07:15] <linux_user400354> return to normal after exiting the game. it looks like i am zoomed in and can't see everything at once.
[07:15] <AlexC_> ahh, firefox-bin :P
[07:15] <Dreamglider> do i need a special edition of ubuntu to run on my laptop with centrino duo ??
[07:15] <daddydoc> like this..... sudo chown -R user:user /directory ?
[07:15] <AlexC_> no
[07:15] <riotkittie> Dreamglider: no
[07:15] <h3xis> Dreamglider, no.
[07:15] <ardchoille42> daddydoc, no
[07:15] <klm-> thanks all, especially zoli2k because yours worked :)
[07:15] <Smirnov> why isnt my smb folders getting mounted automatically!!! i put them into fstab
[07:15] <AlexC_> a lot of no's :P
[07:15] <ardchoille42> sudo chown -R user:group /directory
[07:16] <psykidellic> hello all
[07:16] <riotkittie> Smirnov: did you reboot after editting them to fstab?
[07:16] <gmoore> hello. i'm installing ubuntu on a toshiba laptop which already has windows installed. i resized the windows partition and made a 10gb partition for ubuntu, and i'm now installing it from the livecd (edgy eft). how do i make sure i don't nuke my windows install when using gparted?
[07:16] <adaptr> Dreamglider: I assume you mean "Core Duo" - in that case, maybe
[07:16] <Smirnov> riotkittie: yep
[07:16] <h3xis> gmoore, dont touch it
[07:16] <Smirnov> riotkittie: i rebooted and it didnt mount anything... i had to do mount -a
[07:16] <Dreamglider> adaptr ok what version need i
[07:16] <adaptr> gmoore: don't delete your windows partition :)
[07:16] <riotkittie> Smirnov: uhm, does the fstab line include auto ?
[07:16] <AlexC_> gmoore: the installer should partition for you, no need to use gparted
[07:16] <Jazon> hi everyone
[07:16] <AlexC_> hi
[07:16] <Judicata> gmoore: don't tell it to format it, and don't delete the partition, and you'll be fine.
[07:16] <riotkittie> Smirnov: no wait .forget auto
[07:16] <daddydoc> ?
[07:16] <selahone> adaptr that's just not nice. lol
[07:16] <ShadowX> ok, heres another thing. its not strictly ubuntu, but it is a good question. I always see screenshots of Linux desktops where there's a command terminal that "appears" to be "attached" to the desktop itself. its all nice and pretty and blends great, but its always there. how can I get that on mine?
[07:17] <adaptr> Dreamglider: the Ubuntu version doesn't matter much, but depending on which Core CPU you have you may need a different kernel to "see" both cores
[07:17] <kingace> hello
[07:17] <iturk> hi there! is there any free program for acounting in linux ??
[07:17] <Dreamglider> i have ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso wich stops to respond when i try to install it
[07:17] <riotkittie> ShadowX: attached how. like transparent?
[07:17] <h3xis> ShadowX, i think that's eterm. you can specify the transparency of it and whether or not to show the border/menu
[07:17] <kingace> what in menu.lst should I change if my ubuntu partition has been switched from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda3 and its new root is (hd0,2)
[07:17] <kitche> ShadowX: use screen and a terminal thaty can go transparent
[07:17] <kingace> ?
[07:17] <adaptr> Dreamglider: yerps... bummer; try booting it with some extra boot parameters, like "noapic nolapic"
[07:17] <Judicata> ShadowX: are you talking about the one that drops down from the top? or transparent, or both?
[07:17] <Dame> !python
[07:17] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:18] <tom1469> !c++
[07:18] <adaptr> Dreamglider: or else download and run Knoppix, if that runs at least you know it will actually run Linux
[07:18] <riotkittie> i have a a transparent desktop term set up with eterm i think, but lately, i prefer tilda :P
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <AndrewB> kingace: it is more which terminal emulater that allows transperant terminals.
[07:18] <tom1469> !gcc
[07:18] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:18] <Smirnov> riotkittie: so then what
[07:18] <riotkittie> tilda + transset = yum
[07:18] <adaptr> riotkittie: tilda ?
[07:18] <voicu> how do i find ouy the free space on a partition from command line?
[07:18] <joseph_> good morning everyone
[07:18] <Jazon> i upgraded my desktop to edgy.  I forgot that kernel 2.6.16+ wont load the usb wifi devices anymore.  I added a line to load the configuration into /etc/udev/init.d/99-commonrules like the howto said, but still no go.  anyone else do this?
[07:18] <adaptr> voicu: df -h
[07:18] <zoli2k> voicu, df -h
[07:18] <riotkittie> !tilda | adaptr
[07:18] <adaptr> me first !
[07:18] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 32 kB, installed size 148 kB
[07:18] <ShadowX> Im not really sure. Ive just seen it and it looks really good. by "attached", yes its transparent without borders and menus. but theres also no trace of it in the taskbar. its as if its "built in" to the desktop itself
[07:18] <Jazon> also, i am wondering if anyone has installed bouml on ubuntu edgy?
[07:18] <daddydoc> like this..... sudo chown -R root:root /directory  ?
[07:18] <riotkittie> Smirnov: i am clueless, sorry
[07:18] <adaptr> riotkittie: oh.. aha, I have yakuake :)
[07:18] <joseph_> i'm just curious, does anyone know if the lexmark z600 driver will be provided in feisty?
[07:18] <voicu> thanks adaptr and zoli2k
[07:18] <riotkittie> adaptr: ah :)
[07:19] <kitche> ShadowX: it might be conky also
[07:19] <brandonbl79> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  how come when i type this, nothing comes up
[07:19] <kiamo> please can someone help me with the following error: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/chroot dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.5ubuntu4_i386.deb var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.10_i386.deb
[07:19] <kitche> !conky|ShadowX
[07:19] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[07:19] <riotkittie> ShadowX: try yakuake or tilda ... or eterm with alltray
[07:19] <NkZ> I've seen some people who have some kind of... custom panel of applications on the Desktop (Animated panel) where could I get that?
[07:19] <adaptr> ShadowX: conky, torsmo, there are more...
[07:19] <riotkittie> althougt tilda or yakuake or kuake are likely easier
[07:19] <ShadowX> ok, so what would you all recommend would be the best?
[07:20] <AndrewB> adaptr: torsmo is obsolete i think
[07:20] <adaptr> I've bound yakuake to S-~ as a global shortcut :)
[07:20] <brandonbl79> i have my two harddrives mounted, but are not accessible, can anyone help?
[07:20] <psykidellic> i am installing ubuntu on an old hardware which has 3com vortex NIC for which 3c59x module needs to be installed....i have tried but failed to get my NIC recognised for last 2 days....doing a google shows that the 3c59x module is broken in latest Linux kernels so I have to load it manually.....first time doing "modprobe -v 3c59x" listed two options......when i do "insmod 3c59x", it says "no such file or directory", but when i do "in
[07:20] <psykidellic> smod <with complete pathname of 3c59x.ko>" it gives me error that -1 file exists........any idea what should i do?
[07:20] <adaptr> AndrewB: erm.. that's conky now, then
[07:20] <riotkittie> ShadowX: best is such a relative term. depends on what kind of functionality youre looking for
[07:20] <AndrewB> adaptr: yup iirc
[07:21] <AndrewB> Conky is great!
[07:21] <daddydoc> like this..... sudo chown -R root:root /directory  ?
[07:21] <ShadowX> what Im looking for: visually pleasing, stable, and WONT do like most Window's crap and GET IN MY WAY!!! argh
[07:21] <Judicata> NkZ: You can also do a bunch with the regular panels (right click - properties) You can make them wider, but them on the left or right, make them transparent, etc. And if you drag and drop some launchers on them, it can be handy.
[07:21] <adaptr> well.... it alwasy screws up my desktop
[07:21] <anti_system32> no se como meter la zona de espaol por que al principio no sale
[07:21] <Azul> can i upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:21] <adaptr> !es | anti_system32
[07:21] <ubotu> anti_system32: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:21] <anti_system32> en redes
[07:21] <AndrewB> adaptr: such as what happens? Maybe the refresh rate?
[07:21] <funky1> hey ppl i got a quick question, trying to write an image file back to my usb stick which is on /dev/sda1 so i use "cat backup.img > /dev/sda1 and i just get a permission denied, same as sudo..
[07:21] <funky1> any suggestions?
[07:21] <zoli2k> Azul, of course you can
[07:21] <ardchoille42> daddydoc, Yes, you are specifying "root:root" as root-user:root-group /dircetory
[07:21] <NkZ> Judicata: It's not that what I mean, could I show you an example of what I mean?
[07:22] <pmc_asad> hello all, I am having a problem booting dapper. The kernel panics and says that I don't have an IO timer connected to APIC. I tried booting noapic, but then it tells me it that it can't mount root file system
[07:22] <Azul> zoli2k, how?
[07:22] <daddydoc> thanks, i will try
[07:22] <riotkittie> ShadowX: if youre using gnome, sudo apt-get install tilda  ... you can customize it, and as for it not getting in your way, its easily hidden and revived with an fkey
[07:22] <adaptr> AndrewB: that, or nautilus - I'm looking into it, but I would really like to get gdesklets working properly (as in not crashing my gnome-panel :)
[07:22] <Judicata> NkZ: sure, paste a link.
[07:22] <Azul> zoli2k, is there one upgrade cd that i have to download and install?
[07:22] <shutterbc> funky1 -- are you mounting the usb stick first?
[07:22] <riotkittie> and you can set it not to show in the task bar
[07:22] <brandonbl79> how do i edit fstab
[07:22] <funky1> nope
[07:22] <Azul> or use the repositories?
[07:22] <funky1> should i?
[07:22] <ardchoille42> daddydoc, but yes, you have "root:root" and that is correct for root user:root group
[07:22] <Azul> braindead_moron, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:22] <NkZ> Judicata: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM Watch out the upper panel.
[07:22] <zoli2k> Azul, change every "dapper" word in /etc/apt/sources.list to "edgy". the do: sudo apt-get update  AND sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:22] <adaptr> !upgrade | Azul
[07:22] <jumbers> brandonbl79: nano /etc/fstab
[07:22] <ubotu> Azul: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:22] <AndrewB> adaptr: gDesklets is also ok. I can't remember why I stopped. Maybe it was heavy or something? heh
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Azul: you can use the alternate cd to upgrade
[07:23] <shutterbc> funky1: Well, if you're trying to dd something straight to the device, then no.  But if you're trying to copy / write a file to the USB stick, then yes.
[07:23] <Dreamglider> what version of ubuntu should i download for use on a centrino duo CPU ?
[07:23] <riotkittie> when i'm in X, i tend to run two instances of tilda. one for necessary CLI things, and then  i run irssi and a few other things in the 2nd, sometimes with screen
[07:23] <brandonbl79> jumbers this is where i go to edit my ntfs to be readable by ubuntu?
[07:23] <Azul> thanks for the information
[07:23] <riotkittie> mmm screen.
[07:23] <brandonbl79> using the mask in the user guide?
[07:23] <brandonbl79> ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 ?
[07:24] <taosaur> wireless help needed:  I'm following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/LinksysWPC54GS-UK to get my card working.  My card is not the UK version, but does have the exact chipset (4318) mentioned in the article.
[07:24] <Azul> zoli2k, should i get edgy, or the new 7 release?
[07:24] <funky1> sgutterbc: well i'm using cat backup.img > /dev/sda1
[07:24] <shutterbc> funky1: Check in /media to see if the device was automounted (it should have been)
[07:24] <Judicata> NkZ: that's beryl.
[07:24] <jumbers> brandonbl79: You need something like libntfs8
[07:24] <funky1> nope it's not
[07:24] <funky1> i checked it b4
[07:24] <funky1> but actually i tried the command with mounted stick and without
[07:24] <funky1> the result is the same
[07:24] <funky1> no permission
[07:24] <shutterbc> funky1: What filesystem is on it?
[07:25] <brandonbl79> what is that? i'm trying to unmount everything and start from scratch, or edit what i've mounted to make it accessible
[07:25] <NkZ> Judicata: I do have Beryl Installed (Updated) But I do not know nor have I found how to implement that "upper" panel.
[07:25] <brandonbl79> which would be easier
[07:25] <eccolo> ciao
[07:25] <zoli2k> Azul, if you use your linux as a production environment you should update to the edgy. feisty is the development version and may broke your system
[07:25] <funky1> well the backup.img is a fat32 image, the OS is ext3
[07:25] <eccolo> ciao a tutti
[07:25] <taosaur> I get the message *****: Sorry, it's not possible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode13.fw".
[07:25] <taosaur> *****: Extracting firmware from an old driver is bad. Choose a more recent one.
[07:25] <taosaur> *****: Luckily bcm43xx driver doesn't include microcode11 uploads at the moment.
[07:25] <taosaur> *****: But this can be added in the future...
[07:25] <Agaliarept> Hey guys I have somewhat of a simple question.. I have installed mysql on my ubuntu 6.06 server machine and I am wondering how I connect to it and create a new database named amxx.
[07:25] <Judicata> NkZ: part of the panel is just something they pasted to the wallpaper, and then used a regular panel. I'm not sure how to implement the icons animations, though. Have you just tinkered with the beryl manager?
[07:25] <Azul> zoli2k, ubuntu develops so fast, it's bugging
[07:26] <shutterbc> funky1: Ah, okay.  Actually sounds like you want to directly write the image to the device.  I haven't tried this with a USB device, but I would think you can use 'dd' for that.
[07:26] <sontek> Is there a way to tell the ubuntu install cd to use 16 bit color instead of 24?  I tried using "Safe graphics mode" but that didn't work
[07:26] <NkZ> Judicata: A lot. And I've not been able to tag it. :-(
[07:26] <Sivik> sontek, just use the text install
[07:26] <foutrelis> Agaliarept: do you have apache installed?
[07:26] <foutrelis> and php :)
[07:26] <shutterbc> funky1: In order to have permission for USB devices, you need to be part of the 'plugdev' group
[07:26] <taosaur> Is that message indicating why my wireless isn't working, or should I just scrap this approach and try to figure out a ndiswrapper?
[07:26] <ctothej> how can i make an smb share full access for my user account? i mount it with fstab...
[07:26] <Agaliarept> foutreslis, No, I don't plan to use it with a website...
[07:26] <funky1> shutterbc: well i put a sudo in front so i guess that should not be the problem or am i mistaken?
[07:27] <eccolo> ci siete
[07:27] <shutterbc> sontek: Did you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set default depth to 24?
[07:27] <tom1469> agalierept: what for then?
[07:27] <shutterbc> oh wait... nevermind... the livecd :)
[07:27] <foutrelis> Agaliarept: oh. I was going to suggest phpmyadmin that's why I asked.
[07:27] <AlexC_> Agaliarept: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:27] <funky1> shutterbc: anyhow thx i will try with dd
[07:27] <kiamo> when i try to play dvds in vlc it gives me a "segmentation fault" and then closes, does this mean anything to anyone?
[07:27] <Agaliarept> tom1469, Half-Life server will be connecting to the db and using that database to save settings.
[07:27] <ckasprzak> Hello folks, just wondering if there is any plans to have a list of ISPs that are using Ubuntu for dedicated server hosting?
[07:28] <ircusr> hi
[07:28] <tom1469> hi
[07:28] <AndrewB> hey ircusr
[07:28] <AlexC_> hey
[07:28] <shutterbc> funkmaster:  Well... um... sudo should have done it.  But more likely you got the error because cat doesn't work on a device
[07:28] <taosaur> anyone want to help with wireless woes?
[07:28] <AlexC_> !ask | taosaur
[07:28] <tom1469> no...
[07:28] <ubotu> taosaur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:28] <NkZ> Judicata: I'll do a Google search for "Custom Panels" If I get something I will let you knows.
[07:28] <ircusr> wassup yall?
[07:28] <ardchoille42> I love Linux. I used Windows from 3.1 to WindowsME and was never smart enough about it to help others. I've been using Linux since 2001 and I have spent a lot of that time helping others with problems :)
[07:28] <Judicata> NkZ: thanks, neat looking stuff.
[07:28] <funkmaster> shutterbc: hmz i was pretty sure it does...
[07:28] <taosaur> I asked my question in detail above : /
[07:28] <ckasprzak> same poop different toilet ircusr
[07:28] <ckasprzak> ;)
[07:29] <ircusr> someone know how to get a symbian SDK working in ubuntu?
[07:29] <shutterbc> Can anyone recommend their favorite IRC client?  Right now I'm using gaim
[07:29] <ircusr> Im trying to compile a program for the series 60 phones in ubuntu
[07:29] <h3xis> shutterbc, xchat
[07:29] <AlexC_> shutterbc: xchat
[07:29] <tom1469> xchat
[07:29] <tom1469> defo xchat
[07:29] <AlexC_> though I'm on the look out for a new one :P
[07:29] <shutterbc> hehehe... thanks.  Guess that's a decent number of votes :)
[07:29] <foutrelis> shutterbc: Opera works great as an IRC client :)
[07:29] <ircusr> well?
[07:29] <ShadowX> how is it that Gnome's built in theme manager is so freakin stubborn?
[07:29] <buena_swerte> ircusr: is it C based? or java based?
[07:30] <ircusr> C based i think
[07:30] <ckasprzak> I just wish opera had better plug-ins
[07:30] <ircusr> c++
[07:30] <grub_booter> shutterbc: i find gaim works pretty well
[07:30] <NkZ> Judicata: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694 There ya go, In case other maniac (Like I) asks. :-)
[07:30] <gnufied> how do i mount a sshfs file system without root:
[07:30] <zoli2k> taosaur, ndiswrapper?
[07:30] <gnufied> i get error: fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied
[07:30] <ShadowX> I prefer Kopete above gaim
[07:30] <ircusr> well??
[07:30] <tom1469> shutterbc: sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-systray
[07:30] <ckasprzak> foutrelis: do you have a plugin that is like ad-block plus for opera?
[07:30] <buena_swerte> ircusr: i would assume it would not that much diffrent then if you have the gcc compilers and libraries installed
[07:30] <ckasprzak> and something like no-script?
[07:30] <foutrelis> ckasprzak: No. I only use Opera as an IRC client :)
[07:30] <ckasprzak> oh
[07:31] <ckasprzak> ok
[07:31] <foutrelis> for everything else there is Firefox :P
[07:31] <ckasprzak> yea same here
[07:31] <turbolover> hey guys
[07:31] <ckasprzak> I'm using ChatZilla now
[07:31] <AlexC_> morning,
[07:31] <ckasprzak> ;)
[07:31] <ircusr> problem is
[07:31] <ircusr> when i try to compile the program
[07:31] <turbolover> anyone here ever use a midi usb controller?
[07:31] <ircusr> give many errors
[07:31] <ircusr> like no #typedef in T__error
[07:31] <taosaur> I have a Linksys WPC54GS card and am attempting to extract firmware with fw-cutter:  I get the following error: *****: Sorry, it's not possible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode13.fw".
[07:31] <taosaur> *****: Extracting firmware from an old driver is bad. Choose a more recent one.
[07:31] <taosaur> *****: Luckily bcm43xx driver doesn't include microcode11 uploads at the moment.
[07:31] <taosaur> *****: But this can be added in the future...
[07:31] <stuart_> Hi, I was reading an faq for installing java runetime, and it mentioned the rpm command... Could someone tell me a substitute for the rpm command?
[07:31] <buena_swerte> ircusr: you have loaded the libraries and header files it needs, and set the correct paths?
[07:31] <AlexC_> stuart_: alien
[07:31] <zoli2k> gnufied, add yourself in to the "fuse" group
[07:32] <ircusr> yea
[07:32] <AlexC_> stuart_: you convert the rpm package to deb with alien
[07:32] <gnufied> zoli2k, cool
[07:32] <shutterbc> ircusr: Series 60 -- that's Symbian, right?
[07:32] <stuart_> i just replace it with alien? same effect?
[07:32] <stuart_> i'm a complete noob at linux
[07:32] <taosaur> I'm following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/LinksysWPC54GS-UK
[07:32] <foutrelis> !alien | foutrelis
[07:32] <ubotu> foutrelis: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:32] <foutrelis> :P
[07:32] <ShadowX> join the club Stuart
[07:32] <ircusr> someone familiar with sdk2unix?
[07:33] <luis> Hi - trying to set up a server. Could someone browse to http://project1.zapto.org and tell me what you see?
[07:33] <AlexC_> stuart_: no, first you need to convert the packages. In terminal ( applications->accessories->terminal-> ) type "sudo apt-get install alien"
[07:33] <ircusr> and mmp files?
[07:33] <foutrelis> that ubotu rules! :P
[07:33] <buena_swerte> ircusr: maybe the Makefiles you need to modify since the structure is a bit different
[07:33] <taosaur> I don't have the UK card, but I do have the exact chipset (4318) mintioned in the article
[07:33] <riotkittie> eh. theres not a java install for 'buntu?
[07:33] <ircusr> i tried that
[07:33] <riotkittie> !java
[07:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:33] <zoli2k> taosaur, did you try ndiswrapper?
[07:33] <Azul> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude
[07:33] <AlexC_> stuart_: then in terminal type "alien path_to_rpm_file.rpm" once that is done you can just double click on the .deb file it has made
[07:33] <ircusr> !symbian
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symbian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <ircusr> !sdk2unix
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdk2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Pelo> anyone good with udev rules ? I need a lot of help
[07:34] <taosaur> I haven't found workable instructions for ndiswrapper yet.  If I try ndis, will my firmware attempts so far interfere with it?
[07:34] <AlexC_> Azul: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294135&highlight=apt-get+vs+aptitude
[07:35] <gnufied> zoli2k, still the same error, I used: sudo usermod -a -G fuse gnufied
[07:35] <zoli2k> taosaur, you need the windows driver, install ndiswrapper and a hope that it will work
[07:35] <kitche> ShadowX: I found a good page for doing what you want
[07:35] <zoli2k> gnufied, did you log out and in?
[07:35] <ShadowX> please share with me kitche
[07:35] <kiamo> how do i switch to "advanced mode" in the add/remove applications thingy
[07:36] <kiamo> ?
[07:36] <gnufied> zoli2k, nope
[07:36] <hanasaki> would someone help out with myemail?>  could you paste "dig hanaden.com mx" in #flood ?
[07:36] <taosaur> zoli2k, will ndiswrapper also extract the windows files properly from the install cd?  The only instructions I found on this were not written in n00bish
[07:36] <stuart_> AlexC, after i did that it gives me warning ""skipping conversions of scripts in package"
[07:37] <ShadowX> kitche, whats the page?
[07:37] <taosaur> Also, do I need to somehow "undo" my attempts to install firmware before I do ndis?
[07:37] <stuart_> Can i ignore that?
[07:37] <AlexC_> stuart_: then add --scripts to the end, so "alien --scripts file.rpm"
[07:37] <gmoore> i'm going through the installer now and it's asking me what 4 mount points i want. i set the first one to "/" and Parition 1 Disc 1 and checked format, the second one to '/swap' and picked the 512mb of swap space i made, the third one as '/windows' and picked my windows drive and unchecked format, and left the fourth one blank.
[07:37] <stuart_> ok thanks
[07:37] <kitche> ShadowX: http://mandriva.vmlinuz.ca/index.php/SysAdmin/CLI/SysLog
[07:38] <ardchoille42> !alien
[07:38] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:38] <zoli2k> tausaur, read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=40016
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[07:38] <kitche> !ops
[07:38] <gmoore> when i click forward, it tells me "No root partition selected" (or similar)
[07:38] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
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[07:38] <kiamo> when i try to install mplayer from the addremove bit it says :cannot install "mplayer" this application conficts with other installed software. to install mplayer the conflicting software must be removed.  Switch to the advanced more to resolve this conflict
[07:38] <kiamo> wow
[07:38] <gmoore> or rather it tells me "No root filesystem". what am i missing?
[07:38] <tainted_> how do i tell how much ram i have?
[07:38] <ardchoille42> LockNinja, Not only will I never visit your channel, I added you to my ignore list.. STOP SPAMMING!
[07:38] <kiamo> way to make me NOT want to join LockNinjas channel...
[07:38] <tainted_> and how it's physically configured from terminal?
[07:39] <taosaur> zoli2k I'll check that out, tyvm
[07:39] <zoli2k> gnufied, after logout , login  it will work
[07:39] <remyforbes777> tainted_, free
[07:39] <kitche> ardchoille42: he got banned
[07:39] <linux_user400354> when i get to the gdm login screen after installing the nvidia driver, i cant see the whole screen at once. if i move my mouse to one of the edges, then the screen will move in that direction. if i move my mouse to the top for example, the screen will scroll up and then i cant see the options button at the bottom anymore. does anyone else have that problem? it is similar to playing a game when the game when the resolution does not
[07:39] <linux_user400354> return to normal after exiting the game. it looks like i am zoomed in and can't see everything at once.
[07:39] <ardchoille42> kitche, Good :)
[07:39] <flathm> hey everyone... I'm trying to get hardware GL acceleration with my ATI card using the radeon driver... the driver loads fine but glxinfo | grep direct always shows indirect opengl... anyone know how I can fix this?
[07:39] <stapol> !pointer
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pointer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <linux_user400354> http://sial.org/pbot/22548
[07:39] <remyforbes777> tainted_, free -m to show ram in megabytes
[07:40] <KDan> is there any place where i can download some more gnome-applets? (apart from the standard pack that comes with ubuntu)? Would likee to see what's available...
[07:40] <kiamo> sigh
[07:40] <kiamo> how do people fix things?
[07:40] <zoli2k> kiamo, with work
[07:40] <kiamo> i mean, i just cant get it to work...
[07:40] <kitche> KDan: maybe look at agnome-look.org prehaps? I m not sure exacty sicne I m an E user
[07:40] <kiamo> i just dont know what else to do...
[07:40] <Azul> AlexC_, even the people at the forum are confused
[07:41] <spinelli> i am trying to setup getmail to retrieve my mail from my gmail account. I want to use the maildir format. How do I create a maildir?
[07:41] <ro2> I am new and am in desperate need of some help
[07:41] <kitche> flathm: you using the "radeon" driver the one that comes with X or fglrx? since with the one that coems with X you can't get direct rendering
[07:42] <AlexC_> Azul: not confused, just they are both equally as good. Some like tea some like coffee =) it's just preference realy
[07:42] <AlexC_> Azul: they both do the same thing, use what ever you want really
[07:42] <AlexC_> !ask | ro2
[07:42] <ubotu> ro2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:42] <flathm> kitche, ohhhh I see that explains why I can't get it to work :)
[07:42] <ro2> OK thanks
[07:43] <foutrelis> :)
[07:43] <Zyb> !gksu
[07:43] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[07:43] <Zyb> !gksudo
[07:43] <foutrelis> !gksudo
[07:43] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[07:43] <foutrelis> :P
[07:44] <Asl[a] n> what packages would i need to setup an equivalent of MS active directory?
[07:44] <cappiz_> how do i install locale en_US UTF8 _
[07:44] <cappiz_> ?
[07:44] <Asl[a] n> !ldap
[07:44] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[07:44] <ro2> Can anyone tell me how to install Nvidia graphics drivers, in simple easy to understandable terms. Currently I only have 1024 x 768 res and want something better.
[07:44] <andcor> !nvidia
[07:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:44] <ardchoille42> ro2, You don't have to install nvidia drivers just to get a better resolution
[07:45] <ro2> Thanks I will look, but I suspect I have been there before.
[07:45] <stuart_> AlexC, after i've done all that and installed the package, should it be automatically detected?
[07:45] <foutrelis> ro2: [sudo apt-get install linux-generic]  and then [sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx] 
[07:45] <cappiz_> !locales | cappiz
[07:45] <ubotu> cappiz: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:45] <stuart_> Or is there another step?
[07:45] <ardchoille42> ro2, If you're just trying to get a highr resolution, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <andcor> I just love the ubotu bot, anyway it could get ported to the danish ubuntu channel ?
[07:46] <psykidellic> hey, does anybody knows the corresponding for modules.conf in ubuntu?
[07:46] <ardchoille42> foutrelis, the nvidia install is different depending on which card you use and which Ubuntu you are on.
[07:46] <therapy> foutrelis :  sudo apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:46] <ro2> OK thanks that looks like it might help :-)
[07:46] <foutrelis> :S
[07:46] <therapy> never mind
[07:46] <AlexC_> stuart_: my name is AlexC_ not AlexC - if you use AlexC_ it alerts me =) I don't know what you mean by automaticaly detected?
[07:47] <andcor> therapy: Hey, thats for the ati driver
[07:47] <Zyb> i have a problem, my breezy dont want to upgrade, it say it up-to date already. i tried with real cd-dapper and iso-image-edgy. tried synaptic, apt-get and apt-cdrom
[07:47] <gmoore> i'm trying to install (step 5 of 6, selecting mount points) and when i pick /dev/sda3 as / and /dev/sda4 as swap and click forward it tells me no root filesystem selected.  my sda3 is reiserfs and sda4 is linux-swap
[07:47] <stuart_> I was installing the java runtime envioronment
[07:47] <shutterbc> Speaking of video drivers, I'm wondering if I can get debug output about the graphics system -- it seems that suspend to RAM works unless I'm running Beryl.  Anyone else have that problem?
[07:47] <Nutubuntu> Hardware question: I'm thinking of buying a "new" (secondhand) box built around an Athlon X2 3800+ and an ATI x300 PCIe video card. I've heard and experienced Bad Things with ATI and I don't know anything about the dual-core CPUs. Would this configuration be a headache for Edgy, or okay (or better)?
[07:47] <AlexC_> stuart_: then it should be installed fine,
[07:47] <AlexC_> Nutubuntu: should be fine
[07:47] <spinelli> I am trying to setup mutt, getmail, and postfix. Should getmail deliver mail to my mail spool or my maildir? How do I create a mail spool and maildir?
[07:47] <ro2> Thanks for your help guys. I am an IT specialist but only on Windows and this is a Black Art to me at the moment.
[07:47] <agnostic> can be added subtitles to a VideoCD ?
[07:48] <andcor> ro2: you'll learn it all
[07:48] <foutrelis> !fglrx
[07:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:48] <AlexC_> Nutubuntu: I use to run X2 3800 and ATI X800XT perfectly with Edgy
[07:48] <ro2> I guess you are right andcor. Thanks again.
[07:48] <Asl[a] n> andcor, whats the easiest route to find a replacement for Active Directory in Linux?
[07:49] <Nutubuntu> AlexC_ - thanks! Currently running Dapper on a pretty old box and haven't upgraded; figured to buy a new box and install Edgy and then move my /home over ...
[07:49] <andcor> ro2: You should take a look at http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:49] <stuart_> Hmmph, i don't know why it's not detecting
[07:49] <AlexC_> Nutubuntu: sounds good,
[07:49] <stuart_> Maybe i'll re-install with another method
[07:49] <gecko> hey.... whats does everyone recommend for an instant messenger? ive tried gaim and kopete... but i have dislikes about both
[07:49] <gecko> lol
[07:49] <andcor> Asl[a] n: I don't know that much 'bout it, but what i've heard it that ldap is the best
[07:49] <riotkittie> gecko: what do you dislike about them ?
[07:50] <andcor> Asl[a] n: Why did you ask me ?
[07:50] <therapy> andcor :  sorry, you're right... i though foutrelis was still talking about his radeon ati card...
[07:50] <Asl[a] n> yep, looking it up already. but am not too familiar with BIND/DNS and domain-related stuff in linux. so dont know how to go about it :)
[07:50] <AlexC_> gecko: aMSN ? I personaly don't like it but you might
[07:50] <andcor> therapy: ok
[07:50] <foutrelis> therapy: what?
[07:50] <gecko> hey riotkittie! well the only thing i dont like about gaim is that i cant control it like kopete. Only thing i dislike about kopete is the stupid pop ups saying this person is online..away etc. I told it to turn off...but that didnt do it.
[07:51] <shutterbc> Asl[a] n, have you taken a look at OpenLDAP yet?
[07:51] <Asl[a] n> why I asked you? cause you're the only one who seems to be responsive at the moment. i know- all questions and no answers eh? I'd like to help out too. but most questions round here goes right above my head :P
[07:51] <gecko> riotkittie: did u get any sleep yet? lol
[07:51] <Asl[a] n> shutterbc, found the wiki page
[07:51] <Asl[a] n> going through it right noq
[07:51] <riotkittie> gecko:  yah. i got like uh. 3 hours.
[07:51] <gecko> riot: same here
[07:51] <TEGA> talia.azzurra.org
[07:51] <brandonbl79> hello everyone, how do i gain the permissions needed to read my hda1 and hdb1?
[07:51] <therapy> foutrelis :  you were talking about your ati card a while ago
[07:51] <andcor> Asl[a] n: Ok, I'll take that as an compliment
[07:51] <andcor> ;-)
[07:52] <riotkittie> i was going to go to bed at a sane hour but got caught up in editting config files
[07:52] <foutrelis> therapy: I don't have an ATI card :)
[07:52] <Imrahil> flashplugin-nonfree seems to be broken
[07:52] <gecko> yea.
[07:52] <andcor> therapy: sounds like you have confused a couple of names ;-)
[07:52] <crimsun> Imrahil: the backport?
[07:52] <therapy> foutrelis :   damn... i'm getting too old for this ;-)
[07:52] <foutrelis> therapy: It's ok ;)
[07:52] <gecko> so does any1 know how to update to the newest gaim? im on beta 3 and they have beta 6 now...
[07:53] <andcor> gecko: can't you just compile it yourself
[07:53] <gecko> can i do it, like off the internet? instead of dling an rpm and etc.
[07:53] <shutterbc> Imrahil, I'm having problems with flash too, actually -- are you trying to download the flash 9 plugin?
[07:53] <gecko> andcor: not experienced enough in linux yet to even know what u mean by that
[07:53] <shutterbc> (it was released a couple days ago)
[07:53] <andcor> gecko: ok
[07:53] <riotkittie> compile = build it. :P
[07:53] <andcor> gecko: what you do is that you get their source package
[07:53] <andcor> unpack it
[07:54] <riotkittie> and then you ... sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:54] <gecko> andcor: oh..i know how to do that
[07:54] <shutterbc> gecko: actually the gaim web site has a decent tutorial on how to compile... lemme see if I can find it
[07:54] <gecko> ive never heard the build-essential part
[07:54] <Imrahil> yeah the flash plugin beta from backports
[07:54] <rosendahl> 
[07:54] <ShadowX> I know linux is virtually virus-free, but is Ubuntu itself pretty safe?
[07:54] <andcor> gecko: so I don't have to explian the rest of the procedure ?
[07:54] <method|> how can i disable wlan0 from the command line?
[07:54] <gecko> andcor: ill figure it out.. i gotta learn sometime....
[07:54] <Nutubuntu> Safe for what, ShadowX? How do you mean, safe?
[07:54] <Imrahil> shutterbc, yeah fails to download
[07:54] <peresko> hi i have a beryl question, anyone?
[07:54] <peresko> When i move my cursor off the active window, it becomes inactive, and activating what other screen my cursor is laying on.
[07:54] <peresko> And another thing (i'm sorry, i have looked but i'm missing something..), where can i import and export beryl settings? Before it was the very first thing u see when u open beryl settings manager.
[07:55] <ShadowX> virus-free, I mean
[07:55] <riotkittie> the build-essential pkg provides you with things like make, which arent included in ubuntu by default
[07:55] <foutrelis> method|: try ifdown wlan0
[07:55] <method|> peresko: /join #beryl
[07:55] <gecko> oh..gotcha
[07:55] <method|> thanks
[07:55] <foutrelis> np
[07:55] <method|> ifup wlan0 does the opposite i assume?
[07:55] <foutrelis> yes
[07:55] <method|> cool
[07:55] <andcor> gecko: ok, shutterbc talks 'bout an good howto on the gaim page
[07:55] <gecko> andcor: im headed that way now :)
[07:55] <variant> ShadowX: viruses in the windows sense are not able to affect gnu/linux.. there are other attacks though
[07:56] <peresko> method|: yes, that's maybe better, but i thought someone here...
[07:56] <brandonbl79> !partitions
[07:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:56] <jatos> hey
[07:56] <andcor> jatos: hi
[07:56] <brandonbl79> !diskmounter
[07:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:56] <variant> ShadowX: it's as secure as the administrator makes it.. and as secure as the packages he chooses to install
[07:56] <ShadowX> ok thanks
[07:56] <Zyb> my breezy dont want to upgrade, it say it up-to date already. i tried with real cd-dapper and iso-image-edgy. tried synaptic, apt-get and apt-cdrom
[07:56] <pi-meson> is there a canonical guide to having my ubuntu machine do network address translation?
[07:56] <jatos> how would I setup dual monitors on the same graphics card (its a laptop that allows dual monitors using the in built screen and an external one)
[07:56] <andcor> Zyb: upgrade to dapper or edgy ?
[07:57] <riotkittie> !nat
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <variant> pi-meson: if it's not a server box just install firestarter and tick the "enable nat" box
[07:57] <Herpes> When is fiesty do to come out?
[07:57] <Zyb> andcor: both
[07:57] <jatos> !NAT
[07:57] <riotkittie> Herpes: april
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NAT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <LinTux> A friend of mine installed antivir pe on my machine, how can I get rid off it.
[07:57] <brandonbl79> !newb
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <andcor> Zyb: you have edited the sources list ?
[07:57] <brandonbl79> I want to umount all! is there a command for that?
[07:57] <shutterbc> gecko, here's the compile FAQ: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq-ssl.php
[07:57] <ShadowX> ok, conky is installed, how do I configure it?
[07:58] <Zyb> andcor, there is entries for both dapper and edgy
[07:58] <variant> ShadowX: conky?
[07:58] <gecko> shutterbc: thanks
[07:58] <riotkittie> ShadowX:  edit .conkyrc
[07:58] <andcor> sudo apt-get update ?
[07:58] <brandonbl79> !umount
[07:58] <kitche> ShadowX: read it's page since it tells how to configure it better then most people can tell you
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <brandonbl79> !mount
[07:58] <kitche> brandonbl79: umount -a
[07:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:59] <andcor> Zyb: i'm not sure if having both types of repos in one file is the best way around it
[07:59] <andcor> I'm pretty sure you have to choose either dapper or edgy
[07:59] <shutterbc> BTW, who here uses HDA Intel as their sound device?  I installed a recent kernel upgrade, and now I get no ALSA sound in Edgy.  Works fine from the liveCD.
[08:00] <Zyb> andcor: i alredy tried to updrade with only one of them there
[08:00] <andcor> shutterbc: I do, but it worked out of hte box, so im not sure if I'll be able to help you
[08:00] <pi-meson> variant: awesome, that's what i was looking for. Thanks!
[08:00] <andcor> Zyb: Used linux long ?
[08:00] <pi-meson> wow, crap, that sure has gotten a lot easier over the past few years
[08:00] <gecko> shutterbc: this happened :Removing gaim ...
[08:00] <gecko> gecko@gecko-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install libgnutls10-dev
[08:00] <gecko> Reading package lists... Done
[08:00] <gecko> Building dependency tree
[08:00] <gecko> Reading state information... Done
[08:00] <gecko> E: Couldn't find package libgnutls10-dev
[08:00] <Zyb> anders_home: what?
[08:00] <shutterbc> andcor: Worked out of the box for me too -- until I did autoupdates
[08:01] <Zyb> andcor: *
[08:01] <andcor> shutterbc: don't say that, now i'm afraid to update ,-)
[08:01] <andcor> Zyb: which means ?
[08:01] <Zyb> that entries was created by apt-cdrom
[08:01] <shutterbc> lol -- well... did you download the latest kernel image, andcor?
[08:02] <ardchoille42> gecko, 10 is not in the repos, 11 and 12 are, though
[08:02] <gop> !ppc
[08:02] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[08:02] <shutterbc> gecko: sudo apt-cache search libgnutls
[08:02] <andcor> i've updated it all it can from the standard repos'
[08:02] <shutterbc> you'll see the ones you can download now
[08:02] <gop> any one here used a ppc version of ubuntu
[08:02] <shutterbc> Hmm... maybe I downloaded from restricted
[08:02] <gop> is thier a ppc channel
[08:02] <ardchoille42> gecko, Maybe  libgnutls-dev ?
[08:02] <gecko> libgnutls-dev - the GNU TLS library - development files
[08:02] <gecko> libgnutls13 - the GNU TLS library - runtime library
[08:02] <gecko> libgnutls13-dbg - GNU TLS library - debugger symbols
[08:02] <gecko> libgnutls12 - the GNU TLS library - runtime library
[08:02] <gecko> libgnutls12-dbg - GNU TLS library - debugger symbols
[08:02] <gecko> ?
[08:02] <Herpes> is PPC used for anyting today?
[08:03] <gop> I own a ppc
[08:03] <gop> which runs yellow dog
[08:03] <kitche> Herpes: yes the ps3
[08:03] <variant> Herpes: plenty
[08:03] <shutterbc> In fact, how do I check what I have installed?  (or should I be responsible and always record what I install?)
[08:03] <andcor> shutterbc: by the way, mine's an amd64, so it's probably different kernels
[08:03] <shutterbc> andcor: ah -- yeah, I'm not AMD64, you're probably safe
[08:03] <Herpes> oh yea, IBM's new server visions
[08:03] <kitche> shutterbc: look at your package manager
[08:03] <ardchoille42> shutterbc, You can run "history" (without quotes) in a terminal to see the previous commands you ran
[08:04] <andcor> Zyb: so your not updating from the internet ?
[08:04] <lskd-255> I have an item:  when I click, say a menu item in an application,  or even when surfing, clicking on a link that would open the window to download a file from that link location,  The window remains behind the main application window and when after having clicked on a portion of the original window as if to gain focus, the window in question come to the top or front.....  is there a remedy?
[08:04] <shutterbc> nah, I'm looking to see the history of packages installed over the lifetime of the machine
[08:04] <shutterbc> thanks though
[08:04] <gop> so any one here used ppc version of ubuntu
[08:04] <andcor> shutterbc: your welcome
[08:04] <Zyb> andcor: no, dont know how to set up vpn-connection in ubuntu
[08:04] <variant> gop: yup
[08:04] <gop> how it is compared to yellowdog
[08:04] <gop> is stable
[08:04] <gop> can it run samba
[08:04] <turbolover> hey guys
[08:04] <brandonbl79> how do i check what is mounted?
[08:04] <variant> gop: never tried yellow dog.. it's just as stable as x86 ubuntu though
[08:05] <AndrewB> gop: what you wanting to know?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> shutterbc: I've been looking for a good way to do that do.  Best I've found is listing the status of all packages, including dependencies of installations.  'dpkg --get-selections'
[08:05] <turbolover> has anyone managed to successfully use a usb midi controller like an oxygen8?
[08:05] <gop> how does ubuntu for ppc compare to yellow dog
[08:05] <turbolover> on ubuntu that is
[08:05] <turbolover> im trying to find a driver for it
[08:05] <AndrewB> gop: I think it is better on ubuntu.
[08:05] <ardchoille42> shutterbc, Open Synaptic, go to the Status section and click on Installed. That will show everything that is currently installed
[08:05] <gop> and how about samba
[08:05] <andcor> Zyb: ok, can't help you there, I've got an working vpn connection, but it's with my universitys commercial cisco vpn-client
[08:06] <shutterbc> lskd-255, what window manager are you using?
[08:06] <AndrewB> gop: not tried samba, but doubt any problems..
[08:06] <gop> is thier a ppc channel
[08:06] <AndrewB> gop: not that I know of..
[08:06] <jeroen__> Hi all i'm trying to change my resolution of my screen but onely 640x380 is availeble ierlier i could change can someone help?
[08:06] <gop> I used yellow for many years
[08:06] <gop> 10 to be exact
[08:07] <AndrewB> jeroen__: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add in your color depth the res you want..
[08:07] <variant> gop: yellow dog has not been around for 10 years.. not even close
[08:07] <gop> it been
[08:07] <gop> I been using it since
[08:07] <gop> 1.0
[08:07] <gop> and before that
[08:07] <variant> gop: nope.. released in 1999
[08:07] <andcor> jeroen__: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:07] <gop> I used power pc linux
[08:07] <AndrewB> gop: Cool :) I don't really like Yellow Dogg but it is ok.
[08:07] <lskd-255> shutter,  hmmm is gnome the proper response?
[08:07] <shutterbc> andcor: I recently got vpnc working -- it's pretty sweet.  For most things you don't need the commercial cisco client
[08:07] <ardchoille42> jeroen__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:07] <gop> variant and powerpc linux
[08:07] <shutterbc> and it supports TUN properly
[08:08] <gop> I used before to
[08:08] <elpargo> hi stupid question here what does the lock stands for in nautilus?
[08:08] <lskd-255> nautilus
[08:08] <lskd-255> ?
[08:08] <gop> varitiant do you about ppc linux
[08:08] <andcor> shutterbc: TUN, that thunarfish in danish ;-)
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> elpargo: You don't have permissions of some sort to the file.
[08:08] <gop> or what ever it was called
[08:08] <variant> elpargo: means you don't have permission to do something to that file.. or that your not the owner
[08:08] <shutterbc> hehe
[08:08] <andcor> shutterbc: what's it in computerlanguage
[08:08] <humbolto> what is the fastest way to setup nvidia drivers in edgy?
[08:08] <gecko> here is part of my problem this tut is for Ubuntu (Warty 4.10 & Hoary 5.04
[08:08] <shutterbc> andcor: basically, a tunneled virtual ethernet interface
[08:09] <gecko> and thats as up to date as they are
[08:09] <AndrewB> !nvidia
[08:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <humbolto> no beryl, just plain nvidia with xorg server
[08:09] <AndrewB> humbolto: ^^
[08:09] <elpargo> ummm but I just check in the CLI and i'm the owner, is the lock referring to r w or x ?
[08:09] <jeroen__> cant i just restart x?
[08:09] <AndrewB> humbolto:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <Savage-{> Can somebody click on this link and tell me if the menu on the left of the Flash display on the page is showing behind the Flash? LInk- http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/index.jsp
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> elpargo: Well, which ones do you have from your cli check?
[08:09] <jeroen__> it worked withoud reconfig resolution
[08:09] <andcor> shutterbc: which means it doesn't have to shut of alle the other network interfaces ?
[08:09] <Savage-{> this is a distro test too
[08:09] <shutterbc> gecko: for the most part, a tutorial for older Ubuntu releases should be pretty close to the current ones, at least with regard to gaim
[08:10] <shutterbc> andcor: that's correct
[08:10] <andcor> shutterbc: sounds very great
[08:10] <shutterbc> I prefer it.
[08:10] <compengi> how do i change the screen resolution with color depth for rdesktop in the terminal
[08:10] <aimtrainer> humbolto, I just did it after this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:10] <Lunar_Lamp> !beryl
[08:10] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:10] <carlos> Hi all, Is there any way to prevent a kernel module in initrd from loading during boot?  I'm getting a segfault with sata_promise
[08:10] <jeroen__> how do u  restart x?
[08:10] <elpargo> tonyyarusso: I mean the lock appears if I don't have some of them? is there a way to know which one is it?
[08:11] <andcor> jeroen__: ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:11] <AndrewB> jeroen__: ctrl _ alt_ backspace
[08:11] <gecko> i jus downloaded the rpm
[08:11] <Savage-{> anybody?
[08:11] <compengi> jeroen__, ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:11] <gecko> but i forget how to unpack and install lol
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> elpargo: Other than experiment, not today ;)
[08:11] <aimtrainer> I'm just coming from kde - how is the gnome file browser called? so that I can start it from command line
[08:11] <elpargo> i see thanks tonyyarusso
[08:11] <andcor> gotta go gyes, see ya
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> elpargo: I know it's not read.  either x or w
[08:11] <andcor> aimtrainer: nautilus
[08:11] <elpargo> by the way the ctrl+alt+backspace should come with a warning :)
[08:11] <aimtrainer> thanks andcor
[08:11] <compengi> aimtrainer, nautilus
[08:11] <shutterbc> andcor: something else very nice before you leave: cisco password decoder:
[08:11] <shutterbc> http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/bin/cisco-decode
[08:11] <aimtrainer> thanks compengi
[08:11] <compengi> np
[08:12] <Savage-{> aimtrainer: check out the options it has too
[08:12] <Savage-{> Can somebody click on this link and tell me if the menu on the left of the Flash display on the page is showing behind the Flash? LInk- http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/index.jsp
[08:12] <compengi> how do i change the screen resolution with color depth for rdesktop in the terminal
[08:12] <aimtrainer> Savage-{, yea thanks
[08:12] <Enselic``> I have a wireless mouse and kb, and the kb works, but not the mouse, how would I debug?
[08:12] <andcor> thanks
[08:12] <lskd-255> shutterbc, nevermind, I've got Beryl going,  it's probably a bug that is causing it, they are presently at 0.2.0 beta2
[08:13] <ucordes_> what is a good text based browser?
[08:13] <shutterbc> Savage-{, that's a known bug
[08:13] <AndrewB> ucordes_: links2
[08:13] <Enselic``> ucordes_, lynx
[08:13] <Savage-{> shutterbc: thx
[08:13] <ShadowX> Lynx ucordes_
[08:13] <shutterbc> I have the same problem with flash -- hm, may as well try to fix that today.  Something about WMODE...
[08:14] <ucordes_> what's better? links2 or lynx?
[08:14] <Enselic``> ucq
[08:14] <Enverex> Does anyone know of any cool GPS utilities other than GPSDrive (which is a bit carp to be honest)
[08:14] <AndrewB> ucordes_: personal opinion
[08:14] <ucordes_> what's easier to use?
[08:14] <AndrewB> ucordes_: what ever you get used to.
[08:14] <Enselic``> ucordes_, i think lynx is more common
[08:14] <shutterbc> Savage-{, check this blog out for more info: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[08:14] <ucordes_> ok
[08:14] <stapol> !man exit
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man exit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <AndrewB> lynx is oldest tho iirc
[08:14] <stapol> !exit
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <brandonbl79> !diskmounter
[08:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:14] <brandonbl79> !fuswe
[08:14] <Savage-{> shutterbc: ok
[08:14] <brandonbl79> !fuse
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuswe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:15] <ShadowX> whats the process name for "Add/Remove Applications"
[08:15] <brandonbl79> !release
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:15] <Enselic``> ShadowX, start it and use ps -A
[08:15] <Enselic``> ShadowX, if noone knows
[08:15] <brandonbl79> how do i check release?
[08:15] <ucordes_> using rtorrent, is there a way to control it by ssh while making sure that it continues work on the remote box when i close the ssh connection on the client?
[08:15] <ShadowX> well, I needed to know so I could kill it, cuz its frozen
[08:15] <kitche> !version|brandonbl79
[08:15] <ubotu> brandonbl79: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[08:16] <Enselic``> ShadowX, ill find out, hang on
[08:16] <Enselic``> ShadowX, gnome-app-insta
[08:16] <Enselic``> ShadowX, though, there is a Kill App thingy you can have on your panel
[08:17] <brandonbl79> is fuse a good route to access ntfs files on a windows partition? or is there a safer way?
[08:17] <Enselic``> ShadowX, its useful if programs hangs
[08:17] <ShadowX> Enselic, do you know what its called?
[08:17] <gop> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[08:17] <Enselic``> ShadowX, the kill thingy?
[08:17] <ShadowX> yes
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> brandonbl79: Are you looking to write or read only?
[08:17] <Enselic``> Right click and click Add and youlll see
[08:17] <gop> !fuse | brandonbl79
[08:17] <ubotu> brandonbl79: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:17] <Enselic``> ShadowX, its preinstalled
[08:17] <blueprints88888> how would i access files on a windows box from ubuntu?
[08:17] <Enselic``> ShadowX, (I use Swe)
[08:17] <brandonbl79> i'd like to have write capabilities, although mostly read
[08:17] <Enverex> blueprints88888, remote machines?
[08:18] <ShadowX> hmm, how do I get it on the panel then?
[08:18] <gop> !fuse | remote desktop
[08:18] <ubotu> remote desktop: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> !ntfs | brandonbl79, blueprints88888
[08:18] <ubotu> brandonbl79, blueprints88888: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:18] <Enselic``> ShadowX, rightclick and take Add
[08:18] <christopherl> how can I disable the bootup splash screen from the terminal in Gnome? I did it before, but forgot the command to enter
[08:18] <Enselic``> ShadowX, rc on free space
[08:18] <Enselic``> ShadowX, otherwise you get properties for existing panel applets
[08:18] <gop> !ntfs-3g
[08:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:18] <stapol> IS fuse buggy
[08:18] <blueprints88888> WEll,how can i mount a differnt computer?
[08:18] <AndrewB> blueprints88888: with nfs
[08:19] <AndrewB> !nfs
[08:19] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:19] <AndrewB> blueprints88888: ^^
[08:19] <blueprints88888> ahh ok athanks i will looks into that
[08:19] <ShadowX> Enselic, you are a freakin genious! I never knew Gnome had that in it!
[08:19] <ShadowX> SWEET THANKS MAN!
[08:19] <Enselic``> ShadowX,  :D
[08:19] <ShadowX> lol
[08:19] <tom1469> lol
[08:19] <brandonbl79> seems like the 3g driver is the best way to go to view the ntfs?
[08:20] <stapol> No
[08:20] <stapol> FUSE
[08:20] <kitche> Morrisith: did you install openssh-server?
[08:20] <ShadowX> what is the Drawer, Enselic?
[08:20] <ucordes_> how can i make sure a program keeps on running when i start it on a server with a remote ssh client and close the ssh connection?
[08:20] <Enverex> stapol, FUSE isn't even a driver
[08:20] <gop> Stapol is fuse new
[08:20] <Enverex> brandonbl79, Yes, that's the best one to use
[08:20] <HymnToLife> it you just want to view your NTFS, the best is to install neither
[08:20] <Enselic``> ShadowX, no idea, I guess you can put stuff in it
[08:20] <blueprints88888> OK,also if i was on the windows box with ubuntu as live cd, iw ould be able to mount and play the files without saving it to ubuntu, is that how nfs will work?
[08:20] <gop> enverex what is fuse
[08:20] <Morrisith> kitche i think so  othewiese how could i ssh on the local ip??
[08:20] <Enselic``> ShadowX, never bothered trying
[08:20] <HymnToLife> and stay with the kernel driver
[08:20] <ShadowX> kk
[08:20] <variant> blueprints88888: yes
[08:20] <kitche> Morrisith: ah so you can ssh 127.0.0.1 and it will let you connect
[08:21] <blueprints88888> awsome thanks
[08:21] <gop> !pendrive
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pendrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <gop> is thier a pendrive version of ubuntu
[08:21] <samalex> anyone know how to get lphoto to work on ubuntu?  The installer is just a python script, and I've already installed all the requirements listed on the lphoto.com site.  When i run 'lphoto', it just errors out saying "ImportError: No module named sane"
[08:21] <gop> or flashdrive
[08:21] <Enverex> gop, "Filesystem in User SpacE" It lets filesystems be loaded like kernel modules but in user space rather than kernel space (safer I assume)
[08:21] <Morrisith> kitche i can ssh 192.168.1.3 and i will alow me in but not och my external ip
[08:21] <samalex> and lphoto isn't listed in the package manager from what I can see
[08:21] <gop> oh
[08:21] <ezu> hi, has here anyone supertux 0.3.0 ?
[08:21] <gop> Enverex,  like network enviroment
[08:21] <gop> that confusing
[08:21] <HymnToLife> Morrisith, did you forward port 22 in your router ?
[08:22] <kitche> Morrisith: ok check every thing on your linux box hosts.allow, hosts.deny, your router
[08:22] <Morrisith> HymnToLife yes
[08:22] <Morrisith> kitche already did
[08:22] <ShadowX> dang Enselic, you're awesome lol
[08:22] <gop> any here know if thier a flash disk drive version of ubuntu or pendrive
[08:22] <Morrisith> altought if i portscan it dont seems like port 22 is open
[08:23] <variant> Morrisith: you remembered to start sshd right?
[08:23] <Morrisith> variant i think so  otherwies i could not connect on the local ip ??
[08:23] <ezu> hi, has here anyone supertux 0.3.0 ?
[08:24] <Enselic``> In XChat 2, is it possible to get it to it to react even if my nick isn't at the start of a sentence?
[08:24] <Enselic``> ShadowX, I know
[08:24] <ShadowX> lol smart-aleck :P
[08:24] <variant> Morrisith: didn't see that
[08:24] <kitche> Enselic``: make a highlight for your name
[08:24] <AndrewB> Morrisith: try  ps aux | grep ssh   if it returns anything it will be running
[08:24] <gop> ! usb flash
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <gecko> um.. can someone tell me if there is a way to disable the touchpad mouse of a laptop?
[08:24] <kitche> Morrisith: maybe just maybe your isp is blocking port 22 some isp tend to block everything that they can
[08:24] <gecko> i always...use usb...
[08:24] <Morrisith> AndrewB ok
[08:24] <variant> gecko: yeah, just disable it in xorg.conf
[08:24] <ShadowX> gecko, depends on the maker of the laptop
[08:25] <gop> gecko do you if thier a flash pen drive version of ubuntu
[08:25] <_maurizio_> hi. how do I get the version number for the ubuntu I'm running?
[08:25] <variant> gecko: only enable the usb one
[08:25] <phaidros> anybody knows about a prebuilt xen-vserver kernel ?? sources.list ??
[08:25] <Enselic``> kitche, would you mind testing?
[08:25] <gecko> its Acer and gop i didnt know they had one lol
[08:25] <ShadowX> gecko: most laptops have a button near the touchpad to disable it
[08:25] <ShadowX> _maurizio_  : lsb_release -a
[08:25] <gop> sweet
[08:25] <gop> Installing Ubuntu on USB pendrive using Linux
[08:25] <gecko> right..most.. shadow x.. but acer decided to be uncool and not
[08:25] <gop> Installing Ubuntu on USB pendrive using Linux
[08:25] <Morrisith> AndrewB i get somthing in return yes
[08:25] <ShadowX> ah, Acer. ew lol
[08:25] <kitche> not at all Enselic``
[08:25] <palomer> hello
[08:25] <variant> gop: shut up spamming
[08:25] <gop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?highlight=%28pendrive%29
[08:26] <gop> sorry
[08:26] <palomer> I have a directory with 20 rars
[08:26] <palomer> how do I extract them?
[08:26] <ucordes_> please help
[08:26] <Enselic``> kitche, thx ;)
[08:26] <ShadowX> not sure then. Ive had one laptop, and it ran Win98 and the machine itself SUCKED so iunno
[08:26] <variant> palomer: unrar /file.rar
[08:26] <Enselic``> kitche, weird that thats not default behaviour
[08:26] <_maurizio_> ShadowX: thanx. worked
[08:26] <gecko> ShadowX: i love my acer... its faster than almost all my friends laptops, but there are some things..like that i dont like
[08:26] <Morrisith> kitche and you cant ssh on anotherport??
[08:26] <Enselic``> gecko, you can use Tab completion for nicknames in IRC
[08:26] <ShadowX> _maurizio_  : no prob. I just learned that a few mins ago myself ;)
[08:26] <palomer> variant, I have to do that for every one of the 20 rars?
[08:26] <cappiz> i have installed my system via debootstrap.... the wired networkcard works... though, my WLAN does not show up with iwconfig... lspci shows its in the system... the module ipw3945 is also loaded, which is the module for my card. Anyone knows what it might be?
[08:26] <kitche> Morrisith: yes jsut eidt the sshd config file
[08:26] <Enselic``> gecko, En<TAB> = Enselic``
[08:26] <gma> palomer: for f in *.rar; do unrar $f; done
[08:27] <Morrisith> kitche please tell me how
[08:27] <gecko> En i dont get it?
[08:27] <ShadowX> Enselic``: nice man, I didnt know you could use tab in here like that
[08:27] <palomer> thx
[08:27] <gecko> I hit tab but nothing happens?
[08:27] <ShadowX> Enselic``: are you one of Einstein's great grandkids?
[08:27] <Enselic``> ShadowX, lol
[08:27] <ShadowX> gecko: you have to start typing the person's name. its similar to command completion in Terminal
[08:27] <gma> palomer: alternatively (does the same thing): ls *.rar | xargs unrar
[08:27] <mwe> gma: how about unrar *.rar ? I know *nix sysadimins like to make things complictated, though ;)
[08:27] <ShadowX> or Konsole (if u like it lol)
[08:27] <gecko> No he cant be.. i know one of his nieces..and she doesnt have many cousins lol
[08:28] <gma> mwe: don't know how unrar behaves; maybe it takes multiple args, maybe not
[08:28] <gma> mwe: I'm on macos right now so have no clue
[08:28] <gecko> ShadowX: im not familiar with anything yet too much
[08:28] <ShadowX> gecko: do you seriously know one of Einstein's relatives? lol I figured he would've found some way to cover his tracks lol
[08:28] <Enselic``> gecko, you need a decent client though of course
[08:28] <finchx6> I've been trying to install edgy eft since last night...  I've successfully installed on this very computer countless times in the past, but this time, anytime I install it, GRUB never loads.  The computer boots straight into windows, anyone ever run into this problem??
[08:28] <Treefor1>    -     hi any one know if there is a break for usbnet drivers going form Dapper to Edgy?  My usb network worked on dapper but dont work on edgy.
[08:28] <ShadowX> gecko: neither am I. Im learning most everything I have said today, I have learned today :P
[08:28] <gecko> Yes ShadowX: my spanish teacher in High School. Her name was Ms. Einstein and she was his great great niece
[08:28] <gecko> she was weird
[08:28] <gma> mwe: besides, it never hurts to learn a simple loop construct at the command line
[08:28] <gma> mwe: comes in very handy
[08:28] <ShadowX> gecko: thats sweet lol I pity you though lol
[08:28] <kitche> Morrisith: sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the port to another one
[08:28] <blueprints88888> ok i installed ntfs and ran the config file but i dont understand how to connect to my computer.and also does it look to mount the computer you are using ubuntu on?
[08:29] <Enselic``> ShadowX, how fresh are you? counted in days?
[08:29] <ShadowX> Enselic``: 1
[08:29] <klaarn> hey all.  not to interrupt, but i have an installation issue, if anyone wouldn't mind trying to help me figure it out.
[08:29] <_maurizio_> I'm using breezy to attemp to recover an XP hd crash. need to install wine but following the instructions I miss the "deb" command. what should I used instead?
[08:29] <gecko> How fresh?
[08:29] <variant> palomer: no, sorry didnt see your reply
[08:29] <mwe> gma: yeah it could
[08:29] <Enselic``> ShadowX, Windows migrator?
[08:29] <palomer> my reply?
[08:29] <zoli2k> _maurizio_: dpkg
[08:29] <palomer> well, thx guys!
[08:29] <variant> palomer: when you asked if you had to do it to each
[08:29] <ShadowX> lets just say, ive tinkered with Fedora Core, tried on Red Hat, Knopped around in Knoppix, and finally decided to shake hands with Ubuntu
[08:30] <palomer> tis ok!
[08:30] <ShadowX> and yes, sadly, I am a Windows user. and STILL am.
[08:30] <Enselic``> ShadowX, I see. I've used a few dists as well, and Ubuntu is by far my fabourite
[08:30] <gecko> En wat do u mean how fresh? lol
[08:30] <Morrisith> kitche ok changeit to 1812 now
[08:30] <ShadowX> however, allow me to redeem myself. I only use Windows because thats where all my software is. "Pinnacle Studio, Avide, Photoshop, etc etc"
[08:30] <gecko> ShadowX: dont feel bad. I use it still too. I do gfx design with photoshop CS2
[08:30] <ShadowX> same here
[08:30] <gecko> Gimp cant replace photoshop to me
[08:30] <Enselic``> ShadowX, yeah linux still lacks some of the software
[08:31] <dm> ShadowX thats why i have VMware ..
[08:31] <ShadowX> thats the only thing hindering my total migration. which, from what Im starting to see, wont be hindered much longer
[08:31] <blueprints88888> dm whats VMware?
[08:31] <ShadowX> I tried VMware, but it was a pain in the but for me, I couldnt get it to run on linux
[08:31] <ShadowX> Vmware.com
[08:31] <mwe> gecko: Gimp is ok. it's no comparison to photoshop IMHO, though
[08:31] <Enselic``> !vmware
[08:31] <kitche> well considering that photoshop works in wine maybe not the new one not sure
[08:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[08:31] <ShadowX> its free virtualization software
[08:31] <blueprints88888> oh like a virtual computer?
[08:31] <Enselic``> kitche, cs2 dont afaik
[08:31] <dm> blueprints88888 dear god, your name,.... um, its a virtual machine manager, you can install windows as a virtual machine
[08:31] <ShadowX> in layman's terms, it creates a VIRTUAL computer within a program
[08:31] <ShadowX> exactly
[08:31] <dm> blueprints88888 yep
[08:31] <finchx6> gecko: you can use photoshop in linux...  trust me, I feel the same way
[08:31] <zoli2k> blueprints88888: vmware creates a  virtual environment, virtual pc under linux for any other OS
[08:31] <nixbox> hi all
[08:32] <Enselic``> yo
[08:32] <ShadowX> its like having a computer running in a program, ON your present computer
[08:32] <nixbox> how do i revert back the updates by apt-get update?
[08:32] <variant> blueprints88888: there are other programs that do the same which don't require proprietry software of course..
[08:32] <Morrisith> kitche ok if i pm you i have som questions on things in the file
[08:32] <dm> ShadowX what version of Ubuntu are you running? it is an easy set up
[08:32] <blueprints88888> ah i c, do you install the hole OS or jsut needed files to run windows progs?
[08:32] <ShadowX> so you can run Linux inside of Windows, or Windows inside of Linux, or even deadmoo Mac on Windows or Linux
[08:32] <ShadowX> I downloaded the CD yesterday
[08:32] <_maurizio_> zoli2k, I have to download the package manually before I use dpkg?
[08:32] <mwe> vmware is a pain if you don't have to much ram, though
[08:32] <ShadowX> so the freshest version
[08:32] <ShadowX> yea, I have 512, luckily I can get XP to use a small footprint
[08:32] <gecko> finchx6: u using um... wine to do that?
[08:33] <blueprints88888> i try using wine to run programs but never get it to work
[08:33] <dm> blueprints88888 it will run a full version of the OS, which you can install and run any app that OS can run ( minus 3d games)
[08:33] <variant> blueprints88888: the whole OS, you interact with it as if it were a real seperate computer.. with a virtual network. don't expect to be able to play games on it
[08:33] <ShadowX> Ive never had success running ANYTHING in wine
[08:33] <zoli2k> _maurizio_: what is the problem with apt-get?
[08:33] <_maurizio_> zoli2k, the wine site says I have to use "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main"
[08:33] <ShadowX> beleive me, Id have iTunes running right now if I could
[08:33] <finchx6> i can't stand vmware... I only use it for AnyDVD.  I'd much rather use Wine
[08:33] <variant> ShadowX: works pretty well for me
[08:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: most programs don't work. some games and things like notepad do, though
[08:33] <dm> ShadowX only success i have is games, like WoW
[08:33] <Enselic``> nixbox, synaptic, and then the Packege menu, and Force Versiun
[08:33] <gop> dm,  do you know about the best flash disk distro
[08:33] <Morrisith> Shall i enter some ip in the listenaddress in the sshd_config file
[08:33] <blueprints88888> mwe with wine your talking about?
[08:33] <gop> a distro that you run off a flash disk
[08:33] <finchx6> shadow: I've successfully gotten photoshop 7, CS2, and 3ds max to run in wine
[08:33] <zoli2k> _maurizio_:  sudo apt-get install wine
[08:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: yeah
[08:33] <variant> gop: try slax
[08:33] <variant> gop: slax.org
[08:33] <gop> slax is good
[08:33] <dm> gop knoppix has a good one, but its a hack, better to run off a CD
[08:34] <gop> variant,  sweet
[08:34] <ShadowX> I cant wait till Wine is really more stable and useful
[08:34] <mwe> blueprints88888: some thing work but most large programs don't
[08:34] <kitche> Morrisith: I don't mind let me identify :P
[08:34] <blueprints88888> mwe ya i was always able to get the setup to run but not that actual program
[08:34] <blueprints88888> ya
[08:34] <ShadowX> then get Mac software to run on linux
[08:34] <gop> dm do they work like a hard drive or like a live cd
[08:34] <mwe> blueprints88888: what did you try?
[08:34] <Enselic``> ShadowX, it runs WC3, that's enough ;)
[08:34] <gop> say does it save my user acount
[08:34] <gop> and settings
[08:34] <dm> gop live CD
[08:34] <ShadowX> WC3?
[08:34] <Enselic``> ShadowX, Warcraft III
[08:34] <ShadowX> ah I c
[08:34] <gop> oh dm so it reset my setting
[08:34] <gop> :(
[08:34] <ShadowX> Im not much of a gamer
[08:34] <dm> gop we are talking about something other than VMware right?
[08:34] <_maurizio_> zoli2k, I get "E: Package wine has no installation candidate"
[08:34] <klaarn> hi all.  i've got an installation issue.  i can tell you specs on the machine if you want, but this is what i get when trying to boot into the safe graphical install.  https://webspace.utexas.edu/cag625/install.jpg
[08:34] <Enselic``> ShadowX, me neither actually
[08:34] <blueprints88888> mwe, pysoulseek
[08:34] <ShadowX> I mean, Ive played my share
[08:34] <shutterbc> I've had very mixed results with wine.  It IS getting better all the time, but it still has a way to go.  Right now I'm trying to get Quicken 2005 to work on it
[08:34] <ucordes_> how can i make sure a program keeps on running when i start it on a server with a remote ssh client and close the ssh connection?
[08:34] <blueprints88888> mwe, and i forgot what else
[08:34] <psykidellic> hello...i have been able to install 3c59x module for my old 3com vortex card.....but no way i can get eth0 running or get my newly installed ubuntu to recognise the NIC
[08:34] <ShadowX> Im a pirate, and if I cant get it free, I usually dont give a crap about it anymore lol
[08:34] <gop> variant,  I will try slax I want something that don't reset my setting
[08:35] <psykidellic> how do i get my eth0 running now?
[08:35] <dm> gop yes any LiveCD like thing will reset your settings
[08:35] <blueprints88888> mwe actually the real soulseek for windows i mean not pysoulseek
[08:35] <gecko> shadowx : your just like me lol
[08:35] <ShadowX> I LOVE how kopete alerts me every time my name is said
[08:35] <ShadowX> lol
[08:35] <_maurizio_> zoli2k, I'm running a live cd. dunno if this makes a difference
[08:35] <dm> ShadowX prolly not a good place to tell people you are a pirate.
[08:35] <ShadowX> thats scary gecko
[08:35] <ShadowX> lol
[08:35] <gop> dm,  so thier no distro that install on a flash pendrive and works like an os
[08:35] <gecko> yea..ur right
[08:35] <mwe> blueprints88888: most things don't work but some do. frankscorner.org has some guides for different stuff
[08:35] <ShadowX> ok, allow me to rephrase
[08:35] <zoli2k> _maurizio_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[08:35] <blueprints88888> ShadowX me too, its niver that way
[08:35] <gecko> hey Shadow: you got aim?
[08:35] <ShadowX> Im a WINDOWS SOFTWARE pirate :P
[08:35] <variant> dm: slax has ways around this (webconfig, usb disk)
[08:35] <blueprints88888> nicer
[08:35] <ShadowX> ya
[08:35] <gecko> use it?
[08:35] <ShadowX> AIM: Corey Edwards 05
[08:35] <dm> gop refer to what variant just said
[08:35] <mwe> blueprints88888: and most small programs I tried in wine do work
[08:35] <blueprints88888> mwe thanks mwe, i will take a look at that
[08:35] <dm> variant aye, but its a bit advanced
[08:35] <gop> k
[08:36] <gop> !slax
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <kitche> ShadowX: it's hard to run Mac on Linux there is a terminal that you can use though but it's mostly mac classic
[08:36] <variant> dm: a little
[08:36] <gecko> chinese
[08:36] <Enselic``> I'm against piracty
[08:36] <finchx6> ShadowX: I was pretty satisfied with RythmBox player when I went from iTunes in windows to it
[08:36] <psykidellic> anybody?
[08:36] <gecko> lol darn..the bot didnt do it
[08:36] <gecko> the bot will be racist
[08:36] <zoli2k> _maurizio_: this should work as well on liveCD, wine will be installed in to the RAM disk created by the liveCD
[08:36] <Enselic``> It would be better if ppl helped FLOSS
[08:36] <dm> finchx6 one player to rule them all: Exaile
[08:36] <ShadowX> my only problem with media, EVERYTHING I have is mp3 or mpg or avi
[08:36] <blueprints88888> mwe, i would mind having a vm of windows tho on top of ubuntu, i do have a 160 gig laptop with duo :)
[08:36] <Enselic``> than pirated
[08:36] <ShadowX> yea, I know. Sadly I was never trained in the ways of Freedom *sigh*
[08:36] <mwe> blueprints88888: in that case vmware will probably run great
[08:36] <finchx6> dm: haven't tried that one.  I did like the browsing options in RB
[08:37] <atlantia> anyone know why i am now having issues running a program in a new x session? getting (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[08:37] <atlantia> error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[08:37] <variant> Enselic``: even richard stallman says "if you really have to use proprietry software, try not to pay for it"
[08:37] <dm> finchx6 or Listen, thats a really good one
[08:37] <atlantia> tried it as with sudo as well.. used to work fine, broke one day
[08:37] <Enselic``> variant, well he's a bit of a nutcase also :p
[08:37] <kitche> gop: slax is a slackware based livecd that can run on cd or usb
[08:37] <ShadowX> gecko: hit me up on AIM: Corey Edwards 05
[08:37] <variant> Enselic``: can't argue with that.. genius though
[08:37] <dm> finchx6 i like Exaile for its minimode, clean looks, ipod support, and desktop CD cover plugin
[08:37] <blueprints88888> mwe do you know if it is in an respitory at all?
[08:37] <gop> hmm kitche doe sit save your settings
[08:37] <_maurizio_> zoli2k, i can't edit config files on live cd
[08:37] <Enselic``> variant, I don't see how using pirated software helps anyone
[08:37] <variant> Enselic``: I shook his hand :P
[08:37] <finchx6> do either offer basically the same kind of interface as iTunes?
[08:37] <gecko> ShadowX u online? i added u lol
[08:37] <Enselic``> variant, yeah, genious, but a weird genoius :D
[08:37] <mwe> blueprints88888: I'm running it wiht windows 2000 on a centrino 1.2 with 768 ram and it's ok but not for photoshop is not running great
[08:38] <gop> kitche,  but it a live cd, it won't e.g. save your user setting
[08:38] <Enselic``> variant, oh really? thats cool
[08:38] <_maurizio_> zoli2k, I'll look for cmd line opts
[08:38] <gop> on reboot
[08:38] <kitche> gop: I thinkso I can't use it on usb since I can't boot to usb without it's mini cd
[08:38] <stapol> Is this biggest channel on freenode
[08:38] <ShadowX> gecko: yea, Im on
[08:38] <dm> finchx6 no, i found itunes to be bloated and slow, but did its job. i like exaile the most
[08:38] <ShadowX> just IM me
[08:38] <mwe> blueprints88888: I think not but the guide at wiki.ubuntu.com is easy to follow
[08:38] <variant> Enselic``: yeah, floss means business in belfast
[08:38] <gecko> jus add me..  geckogfx
[08:38] <blueprints88888> mwe ya ps takes alot of cpu usage
[08:38] <ucordes_> can't someone help?
[08:38] <zoli2k> _maurizio_: then, you need to download the wine package
[08:38] <gecko> lol cuz i dont even see u on my kopete list
[08:38] <klaarn> anyone mind helping with an install/video issue?
[08:38] <ShadowX> what we need is a remake of iTunes for linux lol
[08:38] <blueprints88888> mwe thanks,im off to set that up right now bye yall
[08:38] <dm> klaarn whats the prob?
[08:38] <variant> ShadowX: ew
[08:38] <ShadowX> gecko: what is ur AIM
[08:38] <ShadowX> variant: what?
[08:39] <Enselic``> klaarn, ask the question trather than asking for a single person
[08:39] <Enselic``> klaarn, greater chance of success
[08:39] <variant> ShadowX: itunes is gross..
[08:39] <gecko> shadowX : geckogfx
[08:39] <finchx6> ah.  See, I prefer the iTunes style interface because I've got roughly 12,500 mp3s.  RythmBox made it a lot easier to browse...LOL
[08:39] <gop> kitche,  last question what package or software does it come with, for e.g. doe sit have a c++ ide or gcc
[08:39] <ShadowX> lol
[08:39] <kitche> ShadowX:  Songbird
[08:39] <variant> ShadowX: I am a big fan of amarok atm
[08:39] <Intelligitimate> How do I create par2 files and split a file to upload it to a usenet group?
[08:39] <ShadowX> Songbird? hmm
[08:39] <Enselic``> finchx6, Banshee is a nice UI alternative to iTunes
[08:39] <dm> kitche songbird is still unstable as hell
[08:39] <kitche> gop: it has bunch of modules that you can add to it
[08:39] <ShadowX> I shall try it
[08:39] <Enselic``> finchx6, mostly the same
[08:39] <gop> you can run itunes in linux
[08:39] <gop> I have
[08:39] <gop> before
[08:39] <klaarn> ok.  i've been trying to install dapper, and even using the safe install, this is what i end up with.  https://webspace.utexas.edu/cag625/install.jpg
[08:39] <dm> shadowX dont try songbird yet. its VERY broken atm
[08:39] <gop> using wine
[08:39] <kitche> dm: so is everything else your point?
[08:39] <gop> but it slow
[08:39] <mwe> !enter | gop
[08:39] <ubotu> gop: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:39] <finchx6> yeah stay away from songbird
[08:39] <Enselic``> gop, I belive newer versions are harder to wine as well
[08:40] <klaarn> not sure if i should try a text-based install, or...  any better boop options
[08:40] <dm> shadowX if you are going to try it though,  install it with Automatix2
[08:40] <ShadowX> dm: is it in the universe repo?
[08:40] <ShadowX> cuz I cant find it in Synaptic
[08:40] <mwe> !automatix
[08:40] <dm> kitche not really, songbird isnt worth using yet, it has random crashes and burns up CPU cycles
[08:40] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:40] <gecko> dm: Automatix2 is a great program..but isnt there another one thats about =?
[08:40] <finchx6> honestly, I'm not even a big fan of firefox... I'm a graphics artist and I surf deviant art a lot, which firefox takes forever to load
[08:40] <gop> wtf is song bird
[08:40] <dm> gecko no idear
[08:40] <Schminux> Can anyone help me?  I am trying to print from dapper desktop to Lexmark printers z52 and z715 both of which are on WinXP boxes.  I cam see the printers fine from linux desktop, but when I send test page, nothing prints.  Could I have something missing on the XP boxes... SMB protocol, maybe?
[08:40] <gecko> idear hehe
[08:40] <mwe> finchx6: so you like IE?
[08:40] <dm> shadowX prolly not, google automatix2 , youll find a deb
[08:41] <nixbox> how do i switch back to the previous kernel version, because in the update a newer kernel was installed and its causing problems with some drivers which were built with previous kernel version?
[08:41] <ShadowX> hmm, what else is there besides songbird?
[08:41] <kitche> dm: for me it ran perfect but then again I only tried it on windows which it's stable on
[08:41] <ShadowX> I want something good that can play mp3s
[08:41] <dm> kitche in linux its still in Dev,
[08:41] <theearp> Schminux: probable a driver problem
[08:41] <kitche> ShadowX: banshee, amarok for mp3 playback you need to install the libs for it
[08:41] <klaarn> vlc
[08:41] <dm> kitche i loved it in windows.
[08:41] <HymnToLife> nixbox, wouldn't it be better to rebuild them for your new kernel ?
[08:41] <ShadowX> but Im very graphicalyl oriented, so it has to look good too
[08:41] <klaarn> mplayer
[08:41] <klaarn> heh
[08:41] <HymnToLife> !mp3 ShadowX
[08:41] <dm> shadowx aye forgot about banshee, another good one
[08:41] <compengi> shadebug, xmms
[08:41] <finchx6> no..  I use Galeon in linux, and avant in windows.  (I know avant is basically IE, but I like it more than firefox)
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 ShadowX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <tdn> When I am using RenderAccel on in my xorg.conf, X crashes. Suddenly I can only move the mouse around. I cannot click anything it doesn't react on anything I press on the keyboard. I can SSH to the computer from another host and reboot it. That is pretty much it. I have a GeForce2 card.
[08:41] <HymnToLife> !mp3 | ShadowX
[08:41] <zoli2k> !blast
[08:41] <ubotu> ShadowX: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:41] <ubotu> blast: Vent your frustration with programs by blowing holes in them. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-13.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 76 kB
[08:41] <dm> !exaile
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <gecko> shadowX: u add me?
[08:41] <zoli2k> !blast
[08:42] <nixbox> HymnToLife, actually i have to tell this to a friend, he has never built a kernel, i want to do it the simplest way for him, he is over the phone :P
[08:42] <theearp> try the raw drivers
[08:42] <ahrale> hi all.... Help needed... can recieve mails on evolution from my gmail account, but can't send..
[08:42] <Intelligitimate> How do I create par2 files and split a file to upload it to a usenet group?
[08:42] <finchx6> ahrale: check the port number on your smtp
[08:42] <ShadowX> gecko: what is ur sn?
[08:42] <zoli2k> ahrale: did you set correctly smtp port and the encryption?
[08:42] <gecko> i told u three times hehe... its   geckogfx
[08:42] <dm> ahrale make sure the security settings are correct, it requires a special encrpytion like TLS or something
[08:42] <ShadowX> lol sorry geck
[08:42] <HymnToLife> nixbox, which drivers are causing problems ?
[08:42] <gecko> :P
[08:42] <Schminux> have dapper drivers for lexmark which are current... Z52 is few years old and I thought lexmark has been provinding drivers since  2001...
[08:42] <gecko> its all good
[08:42] <atlantia> how do i give a user the ability to start a new x session?
[08:43] <dm> ahrale the gmail help files will tell you this, use the thunderbird setup for pop3 and smtp
[08:43] <ahrale> i did as was written
[08:43] <finchx6> thats right... I know it uses SSL for the pop...  I can't remember if its TLS for sure or not though
[08:43] <nixbox> HymnToLife, Intel 3945 ABG Wireless controller, ipw3945
[08:43] <kiamo> is there any way to make totem movie player show subtitles on a dvd?
[08:43] <dm> ahrale hold on, lemme check mine
[08:43] <jin> my system is so slow
[08:43] <gecko>  atlantia: go into groups and users and set permissions
[08:43] <jin>  20:43:26 up  8:29,  4 users,  load average: 5.57, 4.78, 3.44
[08:43] <ahrale> dm thnx
[08:43] <adaptr> jin: what are you running that would cause an avg of 5+ ??
[08:43] <gecko> atlantia: system/administration/groups and users...
[08:44] <gecko> or users and groups.. w/e
[08:44] <theearp> yes it's TLS
[08:44] <atlantia> gecko don't usually use the gui for such, but i will try
[08:44] <jin> adamonline45, azureus, firefox, xchat, sc (shoutcast broadcasting)
[08:44] <psykidellic> kiamo: i use vlc for all my movie player purpose...its the best up there :)
[08:44] <jin> and I also have vlc running and xmms
[08:44] <jin> adaptr, ^^
[08:44] <gecko> atlantia: terminal user?
[08:44] <dm> ahrale  Sending mail : smtp.gmail.com, TLS encryption and make sure your username is in there, and it will ask yuo for a password when sending something
[08:44] <kitche> !xmms2
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <atlantia> gecko, more or less
[08:44] <mwe> !xmms
[08:44] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:44] <adaptr> jin: hardware ?
[08:44] <klaarn> not to nag, but.  i'm running a agp 8x quadro 4000, and https://webspace.utexas.edu/cag625/install.jpg is the output i'm getting for the graphical and safe graphical install.  are there any better boot options for controlling the display to make it to the point of installing proper drivers?
[08:44] <kitche> bah guess have ot build xmms2 from source
[08:44] <jin> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ @ 2.21GHz]  mem[Physical : 2027MB, 71.6% free]  disk[Total : 197.45GB, 31.40% Free]  video[10de:01df]  sound[] 
[08:44] <gop> hmm song bird looks exact like itunes
[08:44] <atlantia> gecko don't see blatant allow user to start x
[08:44] <Schminux> theearp, is there a generic driver that might work?
[08:44] <jin> there
[08:44] <gecko> altlantia: i would have no clue how to do it that way lol
[08:44] <mwe> !beep-media-player
[08:44] <ubotu> beep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 856 kB, installed size 3612 kB
[08:45] <gecko> hmmm...
[08:45] <ahrale> dm i did as gmail help files.. didn't help
[08:45] <theearp> yeah the look for the driver "raw"
[08:45] <jin> adaptr, ^
[08:45] <atlantia> gecko, i had it set up before, i wanna say it's a conf file either xorg.conf or other wise that allows the user access to xinit
[08:45] <adaptr> jin: then something is eating CPU beyond normality
[08:45] <vertana> Allo guys ^^
[08:45] <jin> adaptr, I know, that's why I'm trying to figure out
[08:45] <dm> take a screenshot of your outgoing mail preferences and post it on image shack ( this will not include your password,dont worry )
[08:45] <gecko> xorg.conf
[08:45] <adaptr> jin: I'd suspect firefox first - it tends to leak
[08:45] <gecko> i think...
[08:45] <dm> ahrale take a screenshot of your outgoing mail preferences and post it on image shack ( this will not include your password,dont worry )
[08:45] <ahrale> dm, server : smpt.gmail.com:587   right?
[08:45] <adaptr> jin: close FF, you might be surprised
[08:46] <nixbox> HymnToLife, well?
[08:46] <dm> ahrale lemme check
[08:46] <jin> adaptr, yea, but 2gb of ram is pretty much enough even if it leaks
[08:46] <HymnToLife> nixbox, that's weird, I never had a problem with it, it should be built in the new kernel, too
[08:46] <adaptr> jin: are you sure ? :D
[08:46] <jin> oh I'm running beryl too
[08:46] <jin> but don't think that will cause this high load
[08:46] <adaptr> jin: FF2 has several weird bugs that can eat up ANY amount of RAM you have
[08:46] <adaptr> jin: you don't ? heh
[08:46] <LonerVamp> chompchompchomp
[08:46] <mwe> beryl is great. It eats my battery life, though.
[08:46] <jin> adaptr, my video card should do that job..
[08:47] <adaptr> jin: profile your apps, run dstat, top , etc.
[08:47] <jin> it has 512mb dedicated onboard
[08:47] <finchx6> ahrale: pop port should be 995, and the smtp port should be 465
[08:47] <blueprints88888> when creating a system image for VMware, do you want to create your own or a prebuilt one???
[08:47] <ET-Ben> Hey
[08:47] <adaptr> jin: irrelevant - beryl won't ever use more than 50-100MB or so
[08:47] <ahrale> tried 465 as well
[08:47] <AlexC_> hi
[08:47] <ET-Ben> I have the normal sound problem - AC97 not working - all settings on high
[08:47] <mwe> blueprints88888: I made my own
[08:47] <jin> 24179 jin       15   0 21784 3844  892 S  7.3  0.2   4:00.37 sc_trans_linux
[08:47] <jin> 26366 jin       15   0  140m  25m  14m S  6.3  1.2   0:08.20 vlc
[08:47] <jin>  4095 root      15   0  191m 110m  20m R  5.3  5.4  20:58.34 Xorg
[08:48] <ardchoille42> !qemu
[08:48] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:48] <mwe> !paste | jin
[08:48] <ubotu> jin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <jin> these are the processes that uses up to 10% of the cpu
[08:48] <blueprints88888> mwe how do i do that, im thinking with my windows cd correct?
[08:48] <mwe> jin: don't paste here. you'll get kicked
[08:48] <Joins> hey, i need a wifi manager
[08:48] <jin> mwe, I think it is ok for 3 lines
[08:48] <mwe> blueprints88888: right. install it like you would on a real machine
[08:48] <mwe> jin: it's not
[08:48] <ahrale> btw, is it possible to recieve mails from yahoo & hotmail as well?
[08:48] <dm> ahrale http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6250/screenshotaccounteditor4nn.png
[08:48] <ET-Ben> Okay anyhelp on the AC97 problem?
[08:49] <ET-Ben> I have no sound
[08:49] <dm> ahrale thats what yours should look like
[08:49] <mwe> jin: not in a busy channel like this. I'm just warning you. take your chances
[08:49] <AlexC_> ET-Ben: please wait more than 1 min before asking again,
[08:49] <LonerVamp> I don't mind three pasted lines, it doesn't make my eyes water or anything
[08:49] <blueprints88888> oh ok, so would i restart my comp with the cd rom in, or put it in now? and then i owuld install it on the /dev/vmnet#
[08:49] <beniamino> is there a good driver to use with an Intel 810 integrated graphics? both i810 and vesa drivers are crashing a lot
[08:49] <ShadowX> ok, that REALLY sucked
[08:49] <mwe> beniamino: i810 works good for me
[08:50] <Scutter> Hellp
[08:50] <Scutter> Hello
[08:50] <dm> ahrale yes port 587
[08:50] <AlexC_> hello Scutter
[08:50] <ET-Ben> No sound - solution anyone?
[08:50] <Scutter> I am having an installation problem, and am wondering if someone might have some advice.
[08:50] <ShadowX> Gnome just froze, I had to kill it, and now the system seems really unstable
[08:50] <klaarn> you and me both scutter
[08:50] <ShadowX> nothings workin right
[08:50] <AlexC_> ET-Ben: do you have speakers?
[08:50] <blueprints88888> mwe oh ok, so would i restart my comp with the cd rom in, or put it in now? and then i owuld install it on the /dev/vmnet#
[08:50] <linuxnewbie756> how can i use chmod -R to give home/matt/Data read/write access for me
[08:50] <ET-Ben> AlexC_: Its a laptop - 2 speakers
[08:51] <zoli2k> beniamino: are you sure it is not a hardware problem? can you post somewhere the Xorg log file?
[08:51] <ucordes_> !flightgear
[08:51] <ubotu> flightgear: Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.10-2 (edgy), package size 2081 kB, installed size 5484 kB
[08:51] <theearp> chmod -R 700 {dir}
[08:51] <theearp> for just you
[08:51] <ucordes_> how can i start flightgear?
[08:51] <ShadowX> brb gotta restart
[08:51] <nukeDev> k
[08:51] <blueprints88888> linuxnewbie156 im not sure but i believe its how you jsut did it  chmod -R /home/matt/Data
[08:51] <AlexC_> ucordes_: maybe "flightgear" in terminal
[08:51] <Scutter> I'm running Windows XP (unfortunately), and am trying to install Ubuntu in a VMWare virtual machine. When I get to the part of the install where you set the time zone, the time is off by 5 hours (probably a UTC vs Local thing). I click the "Set Time..." button to correct it, but when I get back to the Time Zone window it seems to be locked up.
[08:52] <blueprints88888> or try chmod 777 or a+x look for chmod on google
[08:52] <beniamino> zoli2k: yea, the 810 problem is something i've seen reported on the ubuntu forums, so it's not just hardware
[08:52] <ucordes_> AlexC_: that gives me a command not found...
[08:52] <blueprints88888> not too familiar with chmod
[08:52] <theearp> 777 will give permission to everyone
[08:52] <theearp> just 700 for the user
[08:52] <ET-Ben> AlexC_: Yes I run speakers - on a laptop
[08:52] <klaarn> scutter, can you complete the installation if you leave the time the way it is?
[08:52] <blueprints88888> theearp oh ya
[08:52] <AlexC_> ucordes_: try "locate flightgear"
[08:52] <jin> omg
[08:52] <user01> how do get fonts installed if i have otf and some type1 fonts ?
[08:52] <jin> look at this
[08:52] <zoli2k> beniamino: did you check the ubuntu bug list?
[08:52] <Scutter> That's a good idea, klaarn. Let me give that a try.
[08:52] <jin>  20:52:53 up  8:38,  5 users,  load average: 16.80, 11.34, 7.02
[08:53] <jin> should I reboot?
[08:53] <mwe> blueprints88888: you put in the cd then install from the interface by creating a new profile
[08:53] <AlexC_> jin: why?
[08:53] <klaarn> scutter, if you can get through it, then you can probably correct the time issue once you get it up and running
[08:53] <AlexC_> ET-Ben: Hum, no idea sorry
[08:53] <jin> cause the high load?
[08:53] <Scutter> trying it now, klaarn
[08:53] <AlexC_> jin: not sure,
[08:53] <AlexC_> jin: does it run slow?
[08:53] <blueprints88888> mwe, sorry im not familiar with the terms, when you mean interface and new profile
[08:53] <jin> yea, a bit slow
[08:53] <AlexC_> jin: if it's working fine then why bother =)
[08:54] <ET-Ben> AlexC: Okay - anyone else
[08:54] <ET-Ben> ?
[08:54] <jin> but still okay to work with
[08:54] <jin> it's getting out of hand
[08:54] <kitche> ET-Ben: see if snd_intel8x0 is loaded for kernelk with lsmod|grep snd
[08:54] <nukeDev> When i used windows there was a program called speedfan, this allowed me to change the speeds on the fans on things like my graphics card, does anyone know of a bit of software like this for linux?
[08:54] <carlos> It's a pity that Edgy live cd won't even boot up - seems to be a buggy promise sata driver in the kernel
[08:54] <jin>  20:54:40 up  8:40,  5 users,  load average: 28.90, 15.85, 9.03
[08:54] <ucordes_> AlexC_: there are only files in /usr/share/doc/..
[08:55] <AlexC_> ucordes_: sure you installed it properly?
[08:55] <ucordes_> AlexC_: i reinstalled but that doesn't change anything and it goes very quick
[08:55] <jin> I wonder how my system can have that load average
[08:55] <adaptr> jin: do you know the meaning of the numbers ?
[08:55] <linuxnewbie756> theearp:i formatted the drive as vfat within ubuntu, could that have something to do with it?
[08:55] <jin> adaptr, not really. all I know is that it hsould be below 2
[08:56] <theearp> to do with what
[08:56] <AlexC_> ucordes_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flightgear
[08:56] <nukeDev> !speedfan
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speedfan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <mwe> blueprints88888: run vmware. then go to file->new virtual machine
[08:56] <carlos> sold my friend on ubuntu and it's falling at the first hurdle.  He want's to reinstall ms windows :-(
[08:56] <adaptr> jin: it "shouldn't" be anything, but it helps to understand exactly what it measures
[08:56] <ET-Ben> kitche: can you give that command again?
[08:56] <AlexC_> ucordes_: or sudo apt-get purge flightgear    then   sudo apt-get install flightgear
[08:56] <linuxnewbie756> well, when i did that (i tried everything i saw on here about chmod) well, now i can read the drive, but i can't write to it
[08:56] <nukeDev> lol, some people just love paying for pain
[08:56] <ahrale> thnx dm, still can't send
[08:56] <zoli2k> carlos: You can not rescue all souls ;)
[08:56] <dm> ahrale hmm sorry bro
[08:56] <blueprints88888> mwe ok i will try that
[08:56] <kitche> ET-Ben: lsmod|grep snd see if snd_intel8x0 is loaded
[08:56] <nukeDev> When i used windows there was a program called speedfan, this allowed me to change the speeds on the fans on things like my graphics card, does anyone know of a bit of software like this for linux?
[08:57] <dm> nukeDev what kind of laptop do you have
[08:57] <zoli2k> nukeDev: I don't think so
[08:57] <Flannel> linuxnewbie756: you don't want to chmod it.  You need to give it a umask, either in the mount command, or in your fstab
[08:57] <ahrale> any idea about yahoo & hotmail?
[08:57] <dm> zoli2k there are, only certain laptops though
[08:57] <nukeDev> no laptop
[08:57] <jin> adaptr, I have read that it's  a very complicated measure
[08:57] <nukeDev> desktop
[08:57] <blueprints88888> mwe its asking me to open a virtual machine
[08:57] <zoli2k> dm, which program?
[08:57] <nukeDev> 6800gt v9999ge card
[08:57] <ET-Ben> kitche: I think so
[08:58] <nukeDev> a well laters
[08:58] <linuxnewbie756> what do you mean? edit my fstab, i can do that. but how do i do what you just told me to do?
[08:58] <kmu> Anyone ever have problems with Ubuntu locking up after adding more RAM?
[08:58] <adaptr> jin: if you mean hard to compute by hand, then yes :) but it's not hard to understand
[08:58] <dm> zoli2k i8k
[08:58] <klaarn> omg, i'm ready to kick something.  hehe.  still can't get legible resolution during installation
[08:58] <jin> adaptr, mind to explain it in short?
[08:58] <adaptr> kmu: have you gone from single to dual channel> is the added ram faster/slower/different form the old ?
[08:58] <linuxnewbie756> theearp:not sure, all i want is read/write access to it
[08:58] <theearp> oh well
[08:58] <mwe> blueprints88888: 'file->new virtual machine' opens a new virtual machine wizard here
[08:59] <ShadowX> sorry bout that guys
 I'm not giving up on him just yet - A bit longer searching on google - there must be a way to blacklist a module from initrd...
[08:59] <atlantia> anyone knwo the name of the gnomeprgram responsible for the app menu etc? mine doesn't always load at start (won't load at all right now)
[08:59] <adaptr> jin: well, a popular one-liner is that the load average represents the average number of *runnable* processes in the run queue - which probably still means nothing :)
[08:59] <ShadowX> for some reason, Gnome totally froze like Ice
[08:59] <mwe> blueprints88888: did you install the server or just the player?
[08:59] <blueprints88888> mwe the vmwareplaeyer
[08:59] <mwe> blueprints88888: the player can only run existing vm's
[08:59] <adaptr> jin: in short, it rises when not all processes that want CPU time , get enough of it
[08:59] <ET-Ben> kitche: yes it is
[08:59] <mwe> blueprints88888: you need to install the server
[08:59] <blueprints88888> mwe i got it form the apt-get respitories
[08:59] <zoli2k> carlos, build a kernel?
[08:59] <xptweakerntn> so how can i make the"vfat" drive read/write?
[08:59] <blueprints88888> mwe ah
[09:00] <ShadowX> Enselic``: you still here bro?
[09:00] <blueprints88888> mwe ok i will go get that
[09:00] <mwe> blueprints88888: follow the wiki for the server instead
[09:00] <jin> adaptr, in other words, I need a faster cpu?
[09:00] <adaptr> jin: commonly, your loadavg soars when there are heavy blocking I/O operations waiting
[09:00] <atlantia> anyone knwo the name of the gnomeprgram responsible for the app menu etc? mine doesn't always load at start (won't load at all right now)
[09:00] <SoulChild> hey... how can i edit the ubuntu-kernel?
[09:00] <ucordes_> AlexC_: it's the same thing. it goes real quick
[09:00] <blueprints88888> mwe k thanks will do :)
[09:00] <ET-Ben> kitche: http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7ss.png
[09:00] <mwe> !vmware | blueprints88888
[09:00] <kitche> ET-Ben: ok if it's there we know that you should have sound at least to start off with
[09:00] <ubotu> blueprints88888: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:00] <Flannel> !kernel | SoulChild
[09:00] <ubotu> SoulChild: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:00] <adaptr> jin: no, it has nothing whatsoever to do with your CPU
[09:00] <atlantia> sorry to spam same question, hoping for a bit
[09:00] <atlantia> bite*
 yea, not a bad idea. thanks.
[09:00] <jin> adaptr, probably hd I/O bottleneck?
[09:00] <Fraeon> Okay, I'm having this problem with firefox where I defined torrents to have a default app but now I can't change it
[09:01] <kmu> adaptr: Well, the old is "IBM approved" 128MB PC133. The new is 512MB PC133 Kingston Value Ram.
[09:01] <jin> I have azureus running with a lot torrents
[09:01] <gleesond> I cant seem to find where the php5 exicutable is located..... any hints
[09:01] <Fraeon> The download actions window doesn't show anything regarding torrents
[09:01] <ucordes_> are there any free and good racing or flying simulations for linux?
[09:01] <ET-Ben> kitche: so where do we go now?
[09:01] <Fraeon> Is there another way to do these things?
[09:01] <anthony_> heya.  I'm trying to scan my shared filestore partition using a mounted Sophos boot disk image file with qemu, but it keeps saying that it "cannot open the drive for direct access".  I think this is because I have it mounted in my home dir.  How can I unmount it and check?
[09:01] <LonerVamp> jin, you've stated you have like 25 different apps open now...of course you'll be running a load, heh
[09:01] <mwe> ucordes_: define good ;)
[09:01] <adaptr> jin: causes are usually a *combination* of CPU speed, amount of memory accesses by running programs, amount of disk I/O required in each timeslice, and number of interrupts not being serviced fast enough
[09:01] <xptweakerntn> theearp:nope, didn't work
[09:01] <konam> someone here knows if the requirements to install feisty are the same as dapper (256 ram, 500Hz or higher processor)?
[09:01] <zoli2k> carlos: or, there are scripts for building initrd
[09:01] <ucordes_> mwe: nice graphics, good gameply
[09:02] <_maurizio_> thanks to everybody. have a nice day
[09:02] <adaptr> kmu: and you are sure the IBM memory is not ECC or buffered or anything ?
[09:02] <mwe> ucordes_: not really I think.
[09:02] <Flannel> konam: probably similar, yes.  You might ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:02] <fluvvell> !flightgear | ucordes_
[09:02] <ubotu> flightgear: Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.10-2 (edgy), package size 2081 kB, installed size 5484 kB
[09:02] <adaptr> kmu: boot livecd, run memtest86 for a few hours
[09:02] <blueprints88888> Big files VMware Server
[09:02] <mwe> ucordes_: try that one. again it depends on your definition of good
[09:02] <therapy> J ubuntu-nl
[09:03] <jin> adaptr, what can I do to lower the load average?
[09:03] <xptweakerntn> theearp:yes, i am, but i think since it is formatted as vfat it will cause some trouble
[09:03] <ucordes_> fluvvell: flightgear does no work for me. my apt-get downloads and it installs it in 3 seconds and there are only docs after the install
[09:03] <kmu> adaptr: no, i am not :( ok, run memtest86 with the new ram, correct?
[09:03] <klaarn> i'm trying to install from the desktop cd, and i can't read anything once the installer loads (safe, normal, or manually specified resolution).  this is all i see.  https://webspace.utexas.edu/cag625/install.jpg
[09:03] <ET-Ben> kitche: Any ideas?
[09:03] <konam> Flannel i ask and no one answer....
[09:04] <ucordes_> fluvvell: i allready tried reinstalling several times, also installed the deb from debian packages
[09:04] <kmu> adaptr: of course. thanks, i'll trf
[09:04] <mwe> ucordes_: flightgear is pretty nice, though
[09:04] <adaptr> kmu: I thought you said you *added* ram ? run it with both
[09:04] <kmu> adaptr: try
[09:04] <kitche> ET-Ben: not really well besides cat a file to /dev/dsp
[09:04] <ShadowX> ok, if I didnt have a girlfriend that I plan to propose to, I would say I am in love with ubuntu!!
[09:04] <xptweakerntn> what should the umask be and which column is it under?
[09:04] <shutterbc> Yikes -- I just saw jin's load avg... are you swapping a lot to disk?
[09:04] <ucordes_> fluvvell: you know anything i could try to get it working?
[09:04] <CrypTom> hi, is there a way to get a more recent kernel than 2.6.17 for edgy?
[09:04] <adaptr> jin: what I said - run top and dstat in separate consoles while doing what you normally do
[09:05] <ET-Ben> Kitche: cat?
[09:05] <xptweakerntn> theearp:which column is the umask under? and what should it be?
[09:05] <jin> shutterbc, don't think so, I have swap turned off!
[09:05] <jin> :D
[09:05] <william> hello all
[09:05] <adaptr> ET-Ben: yeah, it's like dog only less
[09:05] <ET-Ben> adaptr: Nice
[09:05] <kmu> adaptr: i did add it, but then took it back out, because it was freezing. i'll give it a shot. thanks!
[09:05] <adaptr> ET-Ben: ..while less is like more only more so; for the best you get the most
[09:06] <anthony_>  I'm trying to scan my shared filestore partition using a mounted Sophos boot disk image file with qemu, but it keeps saying that it "cannot open the drive for direct access".  I think this is because I have it mounted in my home dir.  How can I unmount it and check?
[09:06] <kitche> ET-Ben: try cat <file> > /dev/dsp
[09:06] <shutterbc> jin: that's not necessarily a great thing either, as the OS may have to work hard to keep blocks of memory free
[09:06] <mwe> ucordes_: sudo apt-get install flightgear work here. odd
[09:06] <adaptr> kmu: then I'd test it in all 4 possible combinations
[09:06] <adaptr> jin: there you go then - you need swap
[09:06] <mwe> ET-Ben: turn down the volume, thouth ;)
[09:06] <ShadowX> gecko: you here?
[09:06] <adaptr> jin: should've said that earlier, I'd have given you your answer without any further info
[09:06] <kmu> adaptr: alright, i will
[09:06] <jin> shutterbc, I think I can work with swap off with 2gb of ram
[09:06] <ucordes_> mwe: i apt-get --purge removed the fgfs-base package and now reinstall both packages. i hope this will work
[09:06] <xptweakerntn> theearp: 0022
[09:06] <shutterbc> jin: the folks here are right -- there may be some blocking I/O going on.  Like CDROM, audio, or whatever
[09:07] <Spee_Der> Howdy folks.
[09:07] <ET-Ben> mwe: turn it down?
[09:07] <klaarn> is there another channel that might deal more specifically with boot and install issues?  i don't want rudely keep nagging in here...
[09:07] <edion> how do i swith between x and a clean termial in ubuntu
[09:07] <gecko> yea im here shadowx
[09:07] <mwe> ET-Ben: make sure it's not too loud
[09:07] <gecko> im online
[09:07] <adaptr> jin: what you think doesn't factor into it - run top and dstat and *look* at what is happening
[09:07] <ShadowX> I IMed you on AIM
[09:07] <kitche> ET-Ben: by cating a file you should get a lot of garbage coming out of your speakers if you do have sound
[09:07] <ShadowX> no response lol
[09:07] <gecko> didnt get teh message
[09:07] <Flannel> edion: ctrl-alt-f# (#: 1-6 for terminal, 7 for X again)
[09:07] <kitche> ET-Ben: to stop it you can ctrl-c
[09:07] <ShadowX> hrmm
[09:07] <gecko> try again!
[09:07] <gecko> lol
[09:07] <Dreamglider_> what version of ubuntu do i need for my dell inspiron with intel centrino duo
[09:07] <nass> hello, I need help restoring grub on my hard drive... all I tried miserably failed. Someone ?
[09:07] <ET-Ben> kitche: I got nothing
[09:07] <ShadowX> gecko: just sent it again
[09:08] <adaptr> nass: are you running ubuntu now ?
[09:08] <edion> how do i swith between x and a clean termial in ubuntu
[09:08] <adaptr> edion: ctrl-alt-F1
[09:08] <edion> sorry for the duoble
[09:08] <kitche> ET-Ben: hmm then something might be using your sound like esd or artsd
[09:08] <mwe> edion: ctrl-alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-f8 to get back
[09:08] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, why don't you try out a liveCD of Dapper or Edgy and see how it goes?  I'm using a Dell D620 on Edgy
[09:08] <nass> no, i'm on an other computer. the one broken is running ubuntu dapper live cd right now
[09:08] <jin> adaptr, I did, I see a few vlc instances, java, xorg, sc and firefox with some sleeping processes
[09:08] <adaptr> mwe: and ctrl-alt f*7* to get back.. dude!
[09:08] <ET-Ben> kitche: guessing there is a way to check that?
[09:08] <adaptr> jin: do you actually know what to look at in top ?
[09:09] <kitche> ET-Ben: yeah look at top or ps aux and see if esd is running if your on gnome
[09:09] <mwe> adaptr: right ;)
[09:09] <Dreamglider_> the one i have 6.10 i386 but it hangs when i try to boot it, i never get to the live thing to install ubuntu
[09:09] <jin> adaptr, the % of the cpu a process is using?
[09:09] <adaptr> jin: no, that's totally unimportant
[09:10] <matteo> where can I get ubuntu's kernel patches?
[09:10] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc i have had ubuntu on my old laptop, i know what i want but now i have a new pc and the cd i have hangs
[09:10] <jin> adaptr, what do I need to know?
[09:10] <nixbox> i have the live cd, i recently re-installed windows which overwrote the bootsector and obviously enough i dont have the bootloader anymore. I tried to bootload using the livecd and mounted my linux partition and chrooted it. But probably grub-install doesn't work on chrooted partitions, what are the alternatives for restoring the bootloader?
[09:10] <alecjw> hi. what connection spped do you need for vnc to be useable?
[09:10] <Spee_Der> n2diy, do you have gmfsk ?
[09:10] <mwe> !grub | nixbox
[09:10] <ubotu> nixbox: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:10] <adaptr> jin: sort it by resident memory usage, hit "h" for help, figure out what top does and what it can show you - it's a *lot*
[09:10] <ET-Ben> kitche: I don't think they are
[09:10] <Jc1963> hello all --- having a time getting java loaded, what dir do i create the symbolic link to i found a mozzila and mozilla firefox dirs ????
[09:10] <ShadowX> is Ubuntu debian based? or something else?
[09:10] <oxygene_> yes, debian based
[09:10] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, is there a way you can boot to console and see what the hardware detection picks up?  What model of Latitude do you have?
[09:10] <linuxnewbie756> shadowx, debian
[09:11] <mwe> ShadowX: debian based
[09:11] <adaptr> jin: I usually sort by %mem and %cpu alternatively, but you want to add some columns so you get more data for each process
[09:11] <adaptr> jin: and please *run dstat* on a separate terminal, as I've told you 3 times already
[09:11] <jin> this is not for me..
[09:11] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc i have a inspiron 9400
[09:11] <jin> it's hard to understand all the data
[09:11] <jin> :(
[09:11] <mwe> top sucks ;) htop rocks.
[09:12] <adaptr> jin: if you want to know what's happening deep inside your computer, you'll have to make sense of it
[09:12] <adaptr> mwe: yeah ? i'll check it out then, thanks
[09:12] <mwe> adaptr: you can't 'scroll down' in top. AFAIK
[09:12] <adaptr> jin: apt-get install dstat and run it...
[09:12] <adaptr> mwe: true.. very true :(
[09:12] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, have you gone to the laptop tester page for it?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron9400
[09:12] <mwe> adaptr: htop is the next level
[09:12] <ET-Ben> kitche: Any more ideas? Thanks for the help btw
[09:13] <jin> adaptr, I have it running
[09:13] <jin> I see a lot of nummber but..
[09:13] <n2diy> Spee_Der: nope, what is it?
[09:13] <eXistenZ> How can I stream mp3 using ubuntu?
[09:13] <jin> eXistenZ, shoutcast
[09:13] <kitche> ET-Ben: not really since I went though everything that I can really think of,
[09:13] <ShadowX> I installed VMware via Synaptic, but its only the player. isnt the server available too?
[09:13] <eXistenZ> jin, Does it have any plugin?
[09:13] <kcinna> hey all
[09:13] <jin> for xmms?
[09:13] <mwe> ShadowX: follow the wiki
[09:13] <tlegistrae> Hi, I want to statically include/reject modules when compiling a new ubuntu kernal, but Im not sure what config files, etc, I need to change.  I have looked through options in menuconfig, but I cant seem to find what im looking for.
[09:13] <eXistenZ> jin, any player
[09:14] <mwe> !vmware | ShadowX
[09:14] <ubotu> ShadowX: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:14] <kcinna> anyone know of a tiff plugin for swiftfox?
[09:14] <ET-Ben> kitche: well my sound is turned up, and I think there is no usage by anything else and so its the only bad think on my install!
[09:14] <jin> eXistenZ, there is a plugin for xmms, but it is not working for me
[09:14] <jin> I'm using the binary provided by shoutcast
[09:14] <kitche> eXistenZ: what do you mean stream exactly? with shoutcast you can get their broadcasting tools
[09:14] <kcinna> !tiff
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tiff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <eXistenZ> kitche, the problem with shoutcast is that I still cannot find a good dsp plugin
[09:15] <mwe> ET-Ben: you need to catch crimsun for sound hard sound issues. I don't think he's around right now, though.
[09:15] <Bnirkow> hello
[09:16] <kitche> mwe: well with what I went though with et-ben crimsum will probably do the same thign
[09:16] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc what version of ubuntu do i need, do you know ?
[09:16] <adaptr> jin: what dstat shows you is the usage of your system resources once a second - you can see there exactly *where* the bottleneck is
[09:16] <hjmills> what do i need to do to get a command to run as soon as the machine has finished booting (this is a server so its pre-login)
[09:16] <mwe> kitche: maybe so
[09:16] <Bnirkow> who can tell me how looks correct line of root system ("/") in "fstab"??
[09:16] <adaptr> jin: if the loadavg keeps running that high, just let it run for a minute and pastebin the output
[09:16] <mwe> Bnirkow: depends on our setup
[09:17] <atlantia> why is it when i try to set alsa as my sound device in the Sound Admin Gui i get permissions errors when testing/
[09:17] <Bnirkow> mwe: i have only one ext3 partition
[09:17] <atlantia> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not establish connection to sound server
[09:17] <mwe> Bnirkow: mine is: /dev/hda3 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[09:17] <alecjw> what connection speed do you need for vnc to be useable?
[09:17] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, Try Edgy out.  Looks like it has been well tested
[09:17] <kitche> alecjw: dsl at least
[09:17] <Bnirkow> mwe: thanks
[09:17] <kitche> alecjw: or isdn
[09:18] <mwe> Bnirkow: it will only work if root is /dev/hda3, though
[09:18] <alecjw> kitche: do you recon 1mbit will do?
[09:18] <Balsamic_Chicken> where do i go for questions about vmware, what it is, how to install, etc, thx.
[09:18] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc yea but when i push "Start or install" it hangs after a while (When the "Worm" scrools on the screen)
[09:18] <Bnirkow> mwe: will see
[09:18] <mwe> !vmware | Balsamic_Chicken
[09:18] <ubotu> Balsamic_Chicken: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:18] <sint> hey, i need a few more apps in the source.list! thinks like anjuta or kdevelop, but apt cant find them. what i need to do to have them!?!
[09:19] <mwe> Balsamic_Chicken: also go to vmare.com
[09:19] <alecjw> kitche: what resolution do you recommend @ 1mbit?
[09:19] <blueprints88888> mwe, sence i have the vmware player installed, i tried installing the server and it said   A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.  failure.   execution aborted
[09:19] <blueprints88888> mwe, how would i fix this
[09:19] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. maybe uninstall the player first
[09:20] <Bnirkow> mwe: do You have line "/sys       /sys        sysfs  noauto              0 0"  ??
[09:20] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, have you checked the CD for damage?
[09:20] <blueprints88888> mwe, ive enevr uninstalled a player before
[09:20] <blueprints88888> mwe, how do i do that?
[09:20] <blueprints88888> well a prorgam
[09:20] <mwe> Bnirkow: no
[09:20] <atlantia> arrgh
[09:20] <nass> HELP : Grub won't boot on my notepad since I installed windows.... anyone could help ?
[09:20] <atlantia> why?
[09:20] <atlantia> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:20] <atlantia>   alsa-base* alsa-utils* gdm* gnome-applets* gnome-control-center*
[09:20] <atlantia>   gnome-panel* gnome-session* gnome-terminal* linux-sound-base* nautilus*
[09:20] <atlantia>   nautilus-cd-burner* ubuntu-desktop* ubuntu-minimal*
[09:20] <atlantia> when i run udo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[09:20] <atlantia> sorry spammed it a hair
[09:20] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc i just burned it
[09:20] <blueprints88888> nass i heard it works better if you intsall windows first then linux
[09:20] <ahrale> ok, succeed to send/recieve mail on gmail account on Evolution.... any chance to do that for yahoo & hotmail as well?
[09:20] <mwe> blueprints88888: sudo aptitude purge vmare-player?
[09:21] <Flannel> atlantia: because all thosepackages depend on that.   Most of them are meta packages though,
[09:21] <edion> anyone here heard om a problem with the swedish letters  in ubuntu and irssi
[09:21] <blueprints88888> k ill try that
[09:21] <ET-Ben> Sorry about disappearing - the battery on my laptop died
[09:21] <atlantia> Flannel, i just wanna reinstall the alsa packages
[09:21] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, there's an option to check the CD on boot -- I'd run that check
[09:21] <atlantia> Flannel, not uninstall gnome-desktop
[09:21] <mwe> blueprints88888: then try dpkg -l|grep vmware to see if anything is left
[09:21] <Dreamglider_> ok
[09:21] <Flannel> edion: make sure irssi and your terminal is set for UTF
[09:21] <nass> blueprints: I known, I just had linux since 1year+... the thing is grub does not display anything, the computer just hangs
[09:21] <finalbeta> With what program can I edit mpeg files? Avidemux gives me non working output.
[09:22] <nass> I don't mind screwing windows, as long as I get linux back
[09:22] <hjmills> what do i need to do to get a command to run as soon as the machine has finished booting (this is a server so its pre-login)
[09:22] <Flannel> atlantia: "ubuntu-desktop" is a meta package, however, you can reinstall it after removnig your sound stuff, and it'll most likely put all te stuff you just removed back in
[09:22] <atlantia> Flannel, will have to do install gdm ubuntu-desktop afterwards i guess
[09:22] <edion> Flannel they are
[09:22] <mwe> finalbeta: audacity?
[09:22] <sint> what is the largest apt source?
[09:23] <mwe> sint: huh?
[09:23] <blueprints88888> mwe ya kernel modules for vmware player is sitll there, but it said i uninstalled the player
[09:23] <finalbeta> mwe, sry, I mean mpeg for video, the files for VCD/SVCD
[09:23] <Flannel> atlantia: and, you won't lose your GUI while doing it either, for that matter.
[09:23] <atlantia> Flannel, main issue is 1.) when i try to select ALSA as my playback device in sound, i get "cannot conect to sound server, but I can select the card itself and it works. I am trying to get sound working for WOW
[09:23] <shutterbc> How much of a hassle is it to manually compile alsa from source, and can I go back to packages after doing so?
[09:23] <atlantia> Flannel, heh yeah
[09:23] <ahrale>  can anyone please  help with mail of yahoo/hotmail on evolution?
[09:23] <sint> mwe: i'm not sure if i have the largest source activated. i need a few tools, like kdevelop and apt can't find them
[09:24] <shutterbc> !repositories
[09:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:24] <Flannel> sint: you need to enable universe
[09:24] <ice_cream> hi, in my menu.lst, i see entries for kernel 2.6.15-25-386 and its recovery mode, but it doesnt show up in "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image"  or aptitude (as installed)... is it safe to remove, or do i need to reboot and attempt to load it
[09:24] <mwe> blueprints88888: remove it by hand then. sudo rm /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/misc/vm* probably
[09:24] <shutterbc> hmm... I like that bot :)
[09:24] <ET-Ben> !cheese
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <atlantia> Flannel, brb reboot
[09:24] <ben2> what is this room about?
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> ben2: See the /topic
[09:25] <mwe> ben2: ubuntu support
[09:25] <blueprints88888> mwe ok, or can i locate it also and delete it
[09:25] <ShadowX> ben2: this room is devoted to supporting the world's greatest Operating System: Ubuntu Linux
[09:25] <ice_cream> ben2, it's this cool game called ubuntu =P
[09:25] <shutterbc> ben2, the topic should describe it -- but we talk about Ubuntu issues
[09:25] <ben2> ahh linux
[09:25] <Someone> can anyone point me to a good resource for setting up a USB ADSL Modem, and connecting. i need a beginners guide if possible?
[09:25] <mwe> blueprints88888: locate wont find it. it only searches common paths like /usr/bin and stuff
[09:25] <ShadowX> yes, the incredible and lovely linux :)
[09:25] <shutterbc> yeah, right now it's a game for me -- I wanna get my sound working again!
[09:25] <blueprints88888> mwe ah ic
[09:25] <ET-Ben> Me too shutter!!
[09:25] <Flannel> !pppoe | Someone
[09:25] <ubotu> Someone: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:26] <blueprints88888> mwe the command didnt do anyhting
[09:26] <ice_cream> sound can be a flaky issue
[09:26] <mwe> blueprints88888: find /lib/modules|grep vmmon maybe
[09:26] <ice_cream> i've gone through hell before w/ sound
[09:26] <ben2> so why would you say that it's better than windows
[09:26] <ice_cream> shutterbc, if you're really going insane, you could attempt to install a new kernel
[09:26] <Linux_den> is there an easy way to save all of the packages that I install for install on second pc ?
[09:26] <blueprints88888> mwe ya it found the .ko files
[09:26] <shutterbc> So basically what happened is I use a Dell D620 on Edgy -- from install, sound worked GREAT.  Then I installed a kernel image update, and alsa seems to be broken now.   I'm using snd_hda_intel
[09:26] <alecjw> ben2: please stop trolling
[09:26] <ice_cream> ben2, why do some people like linguine rather than cheeseburgers?
[09:26] <blueprints88888> mwe jsut rm them?
[09:27] <mwe> blueprints88888: make sure to only remove the vmware modules
[09:27] <ben2> lol
[09:27] <shutterbc> ice_cream, I might try that, though I think that's what broke me in the first place.  I actually might want to downgrade my kernel
[09:27] <ET-Ben> I installed and had no sound and still dont
[09:27] <blueprints88888> mwe ok theres only three of them, and the only ones that showed up
[09:27] <mwe> blueprints88888: vmmon.ko an vmnet.ko and maybe vmmon.o and vmnet.o, yes
[09:27] <sint> Flannel: how to make sure its activated?
[09:27] <ice_cream> shutterbc, "downgrade" ?  can't you just choose the older one when booting?
[09:27] <mwe> blueprints88888: what are they?
[09:27] <Bnirkow> mwe: do You have moment?
[09:27] <shutterbc> ET-Ben, what card do you have?  (lspci |grep -i audio)
[09:27] <blueprints88888> /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/misc/vmmon.ko
[09:27] <blueprints88888> /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-686/misc/vmmon.ko
[09:27] <blueprints88888> /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/misc/vmmon.ko
[09:27] <mwe> Bnirkow: yeah
[09:28] <atlantia> Flannel, let me ask you this, am i supposed to be able to select ESD or ALSA as my sound device in the sound settings?
[09:28] <mwe> blueprints88888: you can safely remove those
[09:28] <tim167> is there an open source DATA RECOVERY program for broken ntfs / fat32 drives ?
[09:28] <Flannel> sint: you'll see kdevelop in your package lists ;)
[09:28] <blueprints88888> mwe ok will do
[09:28] <sint> Flannel: i've edited source.list, do i have to remove lines then?
[09:28] <shutterbc> ice_cream, you know, I'm not sure -- I suck (from Gentoo I knew what I was doing, now I have to see if I get the option in ubuntu)
[09:28] <Myrth> hi, how do i refresh files from package? i can't remove it cuz i have dependancies. is it possible to just get the original files?
[09:28] <Flannel> sint: no, just uncomment the universe line
[09:28] <ucordes> can you fly something else then the starting plane in flightgear?
[09:28] <sint> k
[09:28] <Bnirkow> mwe: i have problem: when grub boots, and i see splash screen, system stops when "waiting for root file system"
[09:28] <mwe> ucordes: is it good?
[09:28] <ice_cream> shutterbc, well if you have grub for example, you can simply open /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if it lists the older kernels..
[09:28] <Flannel> sint: after that, sudo apt-get update, then apt-cache search kdevelop, should show results
[09:29] <shutterbc> yeah, checking
[09:29] <mwe> Bnirkow: hmm
[09:29] <ET-Ben> shutterbc:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04)
[09:29] <mwe> Bnirkow: did you follow the grub wiki?
[09:29] <gop> any here gotten frostwire 4 to work
[09:29] <sint> Flannel: ok, i'll try it
[09:29] <Bnirkow> mwe: hmm
[09:29] <ice_cream> btw, that ubuntu comprehensive sound guide in forums is crap
[09:29] <Bnirkow> mwe: not
[09:29] <crimsun> ET-Ben: pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[09:29] <ucordes> mwe: ^^ yes but i would like to see different planes
[09:29] <mwe> Bnirkow: please do ;)
[09:29] <gop> !frostwire
[09:29] <mwe> ucordes: yeah
[09:29] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:30] <ice_cream> nice, frostwire... but now i like irc =P
[09:30] <blueprints88888> mwe deleted all but still cant install
[09:30] <gop> oh
[09:30] <gop> frostwire won't connect
[09:30] <ET-Ben> crimsun: Paste it all here?
[09:30] <mwe> blueprints88888: huh? what does it say?
[09:30] <Myrth> mm... is it possible to force remove one package that has dependancies?
[09:30] <crimsun> ET-Ben: no, pastebin. See the topic.
[09:31] <ucordes> mwe: can i change planes?
[09:31] <blueprints88888> mwe A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.Failure.Execution aborted.
[09:31] <mwe> blueprints88888: and dpkg -l | grep vm, does it show anything interesting?
[09:31] <shutterbc> ice_cream, well it's 2.6.17-10-generic that I'm using, though I think when I did the upgrade it was also the same kernel version.  I'd have to check the package description to see what was changed
[09:31] <ET-Ben> crimsun: I'm tired - doing it now
[09:31] <Bnirkow> mwe: but grub works normal
[09:31] <mwe> ucordes: It's been a while. I don't remember how
[09:31] <blueprints88888> mwe ya it still shows thekernel modules
[09:31] <mwe> Bnirkow: not if it doesn't boot linux
[09:32] <ET-Ben> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/864474
[09:32] <Myrth> mwe: plz help
[09:32] <mwe> Myrth: ?
[09:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: really odd
[09:33] <Myrth> mwe: i need to refresh files from a package, can't remove/add cuz it has dependancies
[09:33] <Myrth> mwe: how do i do that?
[09:33] <ET-Ben> crimsun: did that work?
[09:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: find /lib/modules|grep vm doesn't return anything now?
[09:33] <blueprints88888> mwe ii  vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-27 2.6.15.10-10    vmware-player modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.
[09:33] <ET-Ben> crimsun: if not: http://pastebin.com/864475
[09:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: remove those
[09:33] <Bnirkow> mwe: i have root on hda8, and in menu.lst kernel have settings to root=/dev/hda8
[09:34] <mwe> blueprints88888: sudo aptitude purge vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-27
[09:34] <blueprints88888> mwe ok
[09:34] <Nstyguyy> hi can anyone help me please i am using kopete but i cannot search people by age or by country how can i change that?
[09:35] <mwe> Bnirkow: hmm. I'm not sure what's up then
[09:35] <sole> hola
[09:35] <mwe> !es | sole
[09:35] <ubotu> sole: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:35] <blueprints88888> mwe it started asking me to downgrade and started to install something,so i stopped it
[09:36] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. please alaborate
[09:36] <Bnirkow> mwe: maybe problem is ==> ubuntu 7.04 feist :>
[09:36] <tim167> is there any open source data recovery program for broken ntfs or fat32 HD's ?
[09:36] <atlantia> anyone here know how to fix an apparent permsisons issue with ALSA
[09:36] <mwe> Bnirkow: that could be broken
[09:36] <Flannel> Bnirkow, mwe, you need to speak in grub speak.  (hd0,7) and there's no equals sign either
[09:36] <mwe> Bnirkow: it's not stable
[09:36] <blueprints88888>  mweThe following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:36] <blueprints88888>   vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-27{p}
[09:36] <blueprints88888> 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 downgraded, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:36] <Bnirkow> mwe: i know
[09:36] <mwe> blueprints88888: that's good. accept
[09:37] <blueprints88888> oh ok
[09:37] <Bnirkow> mwe: but in 6.10 kernel don`t likes me :/
[09:37] <mwe> blueprints88888: wait
[09:37] <Flannel> Bnirkow, mwe, oh you're talking kernel parameters
[09:37] <mwe> blueprints88888: what does it want to install?
[09:37] <Bnirkow> mwe: even i turn "acpi=off" ==> Kernel in panic
[09:37] <blueprints88888> linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-23
[09:37] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'IEC958' off
[09:37] <Bnirkow> mwe: when is on ==> stops on acpi
[09:37] <gop> !limewire
[09:37] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:38] <Someone> i really need a straight forward guide to setting up a USB DSL modem and connecting to the web, so far most of the info i have found refers to connecting via a modem/router
[09:38] <mwe> blueprints88888: huh?
[09:38] <shutterbc> ice_cream, my initrd.img in /boot is dated 12-14-2006 -- I think this was updated as the original Edgy one is from October.  What I'm wondering is if there's not a backup copy of the old one
[09:38] <ET-Ben> crimsun: do I need to set in on - if so - how?
[09:38] <blueprints88888>  mweboth of those are being installed
[09:38] <crimsun> ET-Ben: I gave you the precise command
[09:38] <ShadowX> Im trying to install vmware server, but I get this error: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[09:39] <mwe> blueprints88888: I don't know why it wants to instlall the vmware modules
[09:39] <ShadowX> then it fails and stops. I uninstalled the player, how do I fix this?
[09:39] <blueprints88888> should i stop this?
[09:39] <ET-Ben> crimsun: I can't see it
[09:39] <crimsun> ET-Ben: type the command I gave you in a Terminal
[09:39] <shutterbc> ShadowX, I take it the installer is lying to you?
[09:39] <ET-Ben> crimsun: I'm an idiot
[09:39] <shutterbc> Oh wait -- ShadowX, do you still have any vmware prefs in your user directory or something?
[09:40] <buena_swerte> Shadow_mil: how did you un-install vmware? there is a vmware-uninstall script you know?
[09:40] <ShadowX> I guess. I uninstalled vmwareplayer, but server says vmware is installed
[09:40] <ShadowX> not sure, I used Synaptic, lemme see
[09:40] <mwe> blueprints88888: does sudo apt-get --purge remove vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15.27 do the same? I don't know why it want to upgrade the kernel either.
[09:40] <linuxnewbie756> anyone in here share data on a single hard disk in ubuntu and windows?
[09:40] <Bnirkow> mwe: so 6.10 is not for me
[09:40] <ET-Ben> crimsun: done but no effect
[09:40] <mwe> Bnirkow: why not, sorry?
[09:40] <ShadowX> heh, that may have been it :P
[09:40] <blueprints88888> mwe leme try that,shoudl is top the installation tho
[09:41] <mwe> blueprints88888: gotta go for a min. be back shortly
[09:41] <ShadowX> hmm not it
[09:41] <blueprints88888> mwe k
[09:41] <Bnirkow> mwe: when i boot from this liveCD, it stops on ACPI
[09:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> hi, what channel do i go for questions about vmare, i.e. what it is, where to download/get it, and other info, thx alot. (o and i had to restart so i didn't see any msgs if someone answered me already thx)
[09:41] <Bnirkow> mwe: when i turn acpi = off , in one moment i have an error ==> Kernel in panic
[09:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> !vmware
[09:41] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:42] <Bnirkow> mwe: and stops
[09:42] <crimsun> ET-Ben: ok, now: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[09:42] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, I dual boot windows XP and ubuntu -- mostly because it's a work laptop
[09:42] <blueprints88888> Shadowx im having the same problem
[09:42] <ShadowX> shutterbc: how can I totally remove all traces of Vmware?
[09:42] <ET-Ben> crimsun: done
[09:42] <linuxnewbie756> do you shave data within ubuntu and xp? meaning either ntfs in linux or ext3 in xp?
[09:42] <EnsignRedshirt> Does anyone have experience converting a set of jpeg files into, say, an avi file?  I know mencoder can do this, but the options are cryptic and I don't know if I have all the software installed that is required to do this.
[09:42] <shutterbc> ShadowX, I've only installed VMware server (not player) but lemme check where the configs are
[09:43] <crimsun> ET-Ben: audible? inaudible?
[09:43] <ShadowX> ok
[09:43] <my_haz> EnsignRedshirt: i think thats pretty easy to do with ImageMagick
[09:43] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, check out ntfs-3g if you want write access
[09:43] <ET-Ben> inaudible
[09:43] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[09:43] <Bnirkow> mwe: on 6.10 stops, when i boot 7.04 ==> only with acpi=off, it boots normaly
[09:43] <vnx> hi guys. My system isn't booting into a graphical environment, just terminal. I might have messed it up with boot-up manager.
[09:43] <mwe> blueprints88888: ok. I'm back
[09:43] <killux> hey, i was using kismet and i wanted to look at the client info on my LAN so i pressed c but it list any clients
[09:43] <buena_swerte> ShadowX: bunch of vmware* related stuff is installed at /usr/bin
[09:43] <blueprints88888> mwe k:)
[09:43] <killux> whats up with that
[09:43] <linuxnewbie756> shutterbc:does that work alright?
[09:43] <blueprints88888> ya i tried what you said but it couldnt find it
[09:43] <Bnirkow> mwe: so i think its kernel
[09:43] <ET-Ben> crimsun: inaud
[09:43] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2
[09:43] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, for me yes, and for most people it seems to be pretty stable.  There's always that chance of dataloss
[09:44] <mwe> Bnirkow: I'm not sure what's up. ask someone else
[09:44] <mwe> blueprints88888: hmm. you need to get rid of all vmware packages
[09:44] <linuxnewbie756> have you had any trouble out of it?
[09:44] <Bnirkow> mwe: i need to wait for working distro with kernel other than 2.6.17
[09:44] <EnsignRedshirt> my_haz: imagemagick can create avi files? I'll look into it. I've only used it to create animated gifs.
[09:44] <blueprints88888> mwe ya i know,is there a way to do that
[09:44] <ET-Ben> crimsun: inaud
[09:44] <vnx> I can start kdm, but the system doesn't do it at startup. I'm looking in /etc/rc2.d but i dont know what to do.
[09:45] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: ubuntu feisty?
[09:45] <shutterbc> ShadowX, you may want to check all the directories listed in vmware-install.pl or vmware-uninstall.pl
[09:45] <mwe> blueprints88888: I don't understand why APT insistes on installing those
[09:45] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: yes
[09:45] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: there is 2.6.20
[09:45] <blueprints88888> mwe i know thats kind of strange
[09:45] <mwe> shutterbc: he installed it with apt but can't get rid of them
[09:45] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i know that
[09:45] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, no trouble for me and ntfs-3g, though I haven't used a ton
[09:45] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: but in edgy is 2.6.17 and for me dont works
[09:45] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: and feisty works me well allready
[09:45] <shutterbc> mwe, yeah, it's a chance that apt didn't clean it all out
[09:46] <ET-Ben> crimsun: any more ideas?
[09:46] <shutterbc> actually for vmware I might just do a "find / -name *vmware*
[09:46] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'External Amplifier' unmute
[09:46] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: do You have pre-edited fstab and grub ??
[09:46] <shutterbc> and see what happens
[09:46] <crimsun> ET-Ben: please be patient; I'm busy
[09:46] <kuroro_> existe algum canal do brasil?
[09:46] <FooAtari> hi folks. i have a sound problem on an acer laptop that i am having real difficulties fixing. anyone know anything about this?
[09:46] <blueprints88888> mwe is ti just the files under///misc/vmnet.ko i have to remove?
[09:46] <ET-Ben> crimsun: ye me too - I'm in the middle of some animation - and I'm just trying to juggle :D
[09:46] <shutterbc> FooAtari, we're in the middle of a soundcard discussion actually.  What device is it?
[09:46] <mwe> shutterbc: so how does he clean it out? it insists on upgrading the kernel (?) and installing another version of vmaware modules when he tries apt-get --purge removing it
[09:47] <mwe> blueprints88888: remove the crap
[09:47] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: when i have installed feisty, in fstab i have UUID=545-536... etc etc
[09:47] <blueprints88888> mwe ok
[09:47] <shutterbc> mwe, I have no idea about the kernel upgrade part -- I think that's apt talking about something else
[09:47] <mwe> shutterbc: probably
[09:47] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I did not edit anything manually  in fstab. to grub added a new splash boot screen.
[09:47] <shutterbc> there are files in /etc/vmware
[09:48] <FooAtari> its an alc8883 (i think) i just cant get it to work.  well the funny thing is i have installed both realtek and alsa drivers and it works ok until i restart the laptop, then nothing and i cant get alsamixer to run. its like alsa isnt starting at all
[09:48] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: hmm
[09:48] <nixbox> hi all
[09:48] <nixbox> could someone gimme the link for reinstalling grub after intalling windows again?
[09:48] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: can You paste for me. how looks Your fstab?
[09:48] <shutterbc> ShadowX, make sure /etc/vmware is emptied out
[09:48] <vnx> does anyone know how to re-enable booting into x on startup?
[09:48] <nixbox> !grub
[09:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:48] <mwe> shutterbc: shouldn't apt-get --purge remove get rid of them if it installed it though?
[09:49] <FooAtari> i have scoured the forums and google and so far nothing has worked
[09:49] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: durring the update to edgy I also get something like: UUID=ce07ed04-7fe7-43f2-8b31-78a0bd65104e / ext3 defaults in fstab
[09:49] <shutterbc> mwe, I'm assuming yes, but just in case it didn't we should check :)
[09:49] <shutterbc> it all depends on how the package was built
[09:49] <mwe> shutterbc: yeah. odd, though
[09:49] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: and..?
[09:49] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: but it works, so I don't want to broke anything
[09:49] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: huh
[09:49] <shutterbc> hmm... maybe I should learn how to make my own packages soon.  Gah, so many things to learn!
[09:50] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: so i broke :>
[09:50] <mwe> shutterbc: if you use the right utils it's not that hard
[09:50] <dc2448> I'm being a bit of a spaz - can someone remind me how to set up vnc so that remote vnc clinets can attatch to an existing ie running windows session please?
[09:50] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I am sure that you can replace this manually with /dev/hda1 .... without problem
[09:50] <ShadowX> thanks, thats what it was
[09:50] <shutterbc> I'm having a love/hate relationship with HDA Intel right now
[09:50] <ShadowX> /etc/vmware still existed
[09:51] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I was also frightened by this UUID=.... sh*t.
[09:51] <shutterbc> Cool.  Score one for brute force deletion to resolve an issue!
[09:51] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: paste for me this partition with "/" can You?
[09:51] <Kazero> Does ubuntu come with some type of speedstep program? I think my laptop is running at full speed all the time and is getting rather hot
[09:51] <EnsignRedshirt> my_haz: Any idea how to do it with imagemagick/convert?  I'm reading docs now, but if you happen to know...
[09:51] <FooAtari> ime having a hate relationship
[09:51] <FooAtari> *im
[09:51] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know if there is a dbgsym package for gaim available?
[09:52] <ET-Ben> Kazero: Mine too - battery died very quickly
[09:52] <matteo> uuid is scary
[09:52] <blueprints88888> mwe should i delete that folder of /etc/vmware?
[09:52] <mitico> hola
[09:52] <mwe> blueprints88888: yeah do that
[09:52] <eni191_>  what does this message mean in an other channel, i donot understand what to do :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command
[09:52] <blueprints88888> mwe k i tried but it says i cant
[09:52] <Toran> OK, so my main harddrive is giving I/O errors when I try to access it. I'm on a live cd right now. Is there any way to get my harddrive to respond long enough for me to back it up?
[09:52] <shutterbc> Kazero, what does /proc/cpuinfo tell you?
[09:52] <mwe> blueprints88888: paste the error if you get one
[09:52] <mwe> blueprints88888: use sudo
[09:52] <kitche> eni191_: freenode wants you to register your nick
[09:53] <blueprints88888> blueprints88@blueprints88:~$ sudo rm /etc/vmware
[09:53] <blueprints88888> rm: cannot remove `/etc/vmware': Is a directory
[09:53] <shutterbc> Toran, if you have a similar HD to copy to, I'd use DD
[09:53] <blueprints88888> mwe never i tried rmdir
[09:53] <mwe> blueprints88888: sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware
[09:53] <matteo> there is a dd useful fro backups
[09:53] <eni191_> kitche: yes, but how, where, I am new.....
[09:53] <Toran> shutterbc: I was trying to, but it always gets like 80mb in and then I/O errors
[09:53] <shutterbc> blueprints88888, try rm -rf
[09:53] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i mean paste this line
[09:53] <matteo> sdd or such, go search it
[09:53] <shutterbc> Toran, you can tell it to ignore errors
[09:53] <Toran> The 80mb is just the stuff that is in lost+found
[09:53] <Toran> Ooh, what's the flag?
[09:53] <t1000> what is the terminal command for deleting a folder and files inside?
[09:53] <shutterbc> ehm, this is why I bookmark things, hang on
[09:53] <mwe> t1000: rm -rf
[09:54] <ardchoille42> t1000, rm -r
[09:54] <mwe> t1000: careful, though
[09:54] <mwe> t1000: there is no going back
[09:54] <t1000> ok, thanx
[09:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Which package includes the command mpeg2encode?
[09:54] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: if you want to restore the UUIDs in the fstab, try for example: vol_id  /dev/hda2
[09:54] <blueprints88888> mwe got it, do i want to install the files in/usr/bin?
[09:54] <kitche> !register|eni191_
[09:54] <ubotu> eni191_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:54] <camerong> hey how do i use chmod so i can run php scripts in /var/www? i tried "sudo chmod -R 755 phpmyadmin" (after CD'ng into /var/www) but the script still wont work right
[09:54] <mwe> blueprints88888: yeah accept the default is what I did at least
[09:54] <eni191_> thanks... I will read that first
[09:54] <Toran> how does "dd noerror if=/dev/sda of=/dev/hda" sound?
[09:55] <blueprints88888> mwe kool thanks alot also for the help, ubuntu is made with people liek you
[09:55] <tree> hello
[09:55] <shutterbc> Toran, check http://www.crazytrain.com/dd.html
[09:55] <Toran> thanks
[09:55] <mwe> blueprints88888: heh
[09:55] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i try
[09:55] <ET-Ben> crimsun: still busy?
[09:55] <shutterbc> Toran, yeah, noerror is the flag
[09:55] <blueprints88888> mwe :)
[09:55] <crimsun> ET-Ben: yes, but I'll respond when I can
[09:56] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i can`t
[09:56] <tree> does anyone know where you can add and remove plugins for firefox?  I want to get rid og gxine plugin and use the mplayer plugin
[09:56] <KenSentMe> I have this strange problem with gaim (i think). Sometimes when i start gaim and it loads up my msn account, my total internet connection drops. Even on other clients on the network. Only after waiting for some minutes or manually resetting the modem/router my connection is back up. My internal network keeps working. Anyone has an idea why this can happen?
[09:56] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: btw i`m on livecd of other distro, to edit something ==> fstab
[09:56] <ardchoille42> tree, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ?
[09:56] <mwe> tree: remove the plugin with APT if it was installed that way
[09:56] <tree> thx checking\
[09:57] <shutterbc> FooAtari, have you messed with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base yet?
[09:57] <camerong> can anyone here help me use chmod?
[09:57] <tree> I dont necessarily want to delete gxine plugin, just want to use mplayer embedded at the moment
[09:57] <shutterbc> camerong, what are you trying to do with chmod?
[09:57] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: so, can You paste for me this line?
[09:57] <ardchoille42> tree, mwe's advice is much better
[09:57] <FooAtari> shutterbc, a little.....
[09:57] <ShadowX> how can I make an external hard drive formatted as NTFS writeable in Ubuntu?
[09:57] <FooAtari> ill go and take a look
[09:58] <camerong> shutterbc: i installed phpmyadmin into my /var/www directory so i can edit my mysql databases with ease, but icant use it becusae of permission probs.. i need them all to be at 777
[09:58] <camerong> or the highes thtey can be
[09:58] <blueprints88888> mwe should i have two bridged networks? because i have eth0 and eth1?
[09:58] <mwe> ShadowX: you need to use ntfs-3g
[09:58] <mwe> !ntfs-3g | ShadowX
[09:58] <ubotu> ShadowX: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:58] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: did you mean:
[09:58] <zoli2k> UUID=ce07ed04-7fe7-43f2-8b31-78a0bd65104e / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,data=writeback 0 1
[09:59] <kolla_> mf.. so many packages I lack in ubuntu
[09:59] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: yes, thanks
[09:59] <FooAtari> all i have done is add this - options snd-hda-intel model=ACER
[09:59] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: carefull, UUID is hardware specific!!!!
[09:59] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i have this UUID changed to my ext3 partition
[10:00] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: you should use vol_id for this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223182&highlight=uuid
[10:00] <shutterbc> camerong, you probably just need to chown the files to whatever user apache runs as
[10:00] <FooAtari> when i run alsamixer i get this alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[10:00] <Kazero> shutterbc: Sorry for the long wait on reply, I get permission denied, and when I run it in sudo I get command not founc
[10:00] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: "/dev/hda8"    will not work?
[10:01] <dutch> trying to change my screen resolution to 1280x1024..there's nothing in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4...where is it ?
[10:01] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I think so.
[10:01] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i will test ot now
[10:01] <mwe> !fixres | dutch
[10:01] <ubotu> dutch: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:02] <shutterbc> Kazero: try this: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[10:02] <shutterbc> But don't dump all of the output to the channel
[10:02] <dutch> thanks
[10:02] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: be back tomorrow, cu later
[10:02] <mwe> dutch: look in xorg.conf. xfree86 is deprecated
[10:02] <ShadowX> just using general computing knowledge, Im assuming there is still no safe reliable way of converting one filesystem to another without totally reformatting, is there?
[10:02] <Kazero> shutterbc: Thanks, it does appear that it downclocked itself. I wonder why it gets so warm when I run ubuntu then
[10:03] <Pobega> ShadowX: Not that I know of, but you could always back up the data on another partition, create a new partition, and move the files over.
[10:03] <shutterbc> Kazero, well there are some known issues with acpi acting funky on systems.  You might want to check laptop testing wiki to see if there are known issues with your model
[10:03] <ShadowX> that would still take alot of time, right Pobega?
[10:03] <Pobega> ShadowX: Depends, what are you looking to do exactly?
[10:03] <Kazero> shutterbc: Link to t he wiki?
[10:03] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: It must simply work. I think the motivation why /dev/... is changed to UUID is beacause, if you have multiple OS in your PC and you change the partition table in the second OS, the numbering of disks may broke.
[10:03] <ShadowX> I have an external hard drive, I want to convert it from NTFS to ext3
[10:04] <mwe> ShadowX: there are unsafe ways of converting file systems but not safe one AFAIK
[10:04] <ShadowX> then install ext3 support into Windows
[10:04] <ET-Ben> 24 has just started Series 6 in the UK
[10:04] <shutterbc> Kazero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[10:04] <Pobega> ShadowX: Well yeah, I've never done it before but I'd think that you have to back everything up. How big is the drive and how much is in use?
[10:04] <ShadowX> but Ive got tons of GB worth of data on the drive, and I dont REALLY wanna wait to copy it all, but I guess all good things take time
[10:05] <mwe> ShadowX: do it or take your chances
[10:05] <ShadowX> its a 250 gb drive, and I have 153 free lol
[10:05] <mwe> ShadowX: converfs. it's *not* safe, though
[10:05] <ShadowX> so nearly 100 gb
[10:05] <Pobega> Oh, it'll be easy then.
[10:05] <ShadowX> is it safe to resize a partition with data on it?
[10:06] <mwe> ShadowX: define safe ;)
[10:06] <Pobega> Just resize the partition, create an ext3 partition, copy all of the files over, and then delete the NTFS/resize the ext3
[10:06] <ShadowX> mwe: safe = very slim chance of losing my valuable data lol
[10:06] <mwe> ShadowX: the rule of thumb is to back up everything when you mess with partitions
[10:06] <Pobega> So make a 150 GB ext3, move the 100GB of files over into it, delete the NTFS, and resize the ext3 to 100%
[10:07] <mwe> ShadowX: resising with gparted should be resonably safe
[10:07] <ShadowX> ok
[10:07] <blueprints88888> mwe do you need the serial number at the end of the installation to finish?
[10:07] <Pobega> Yeah, I use gparted most of the time; Unless I'm _forced_ to use the terminal.
[10:07] <ShadowX> cuz its not like Im really going totally insane with partitions, Im just doing a simple transfer here
[10:07] <mwe> blueprints88888: yeah. you need to register to get one if you haven't done so
[10:07] <ShadowX> anyone got a vmware server serial?
[10:07] <mwe> blueprints88888: or use mine and don't tell anyone
[10:08] <ardchoille42> haha
[10:08] <blueprints88888> mwe i did register, im just wating for the serial
[10:08] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i copy a dvd?
[10:08] <misfit_toy> ShadowX, vmware serials are free
[10:08] <blueprints88888>  mwe i dont mind :)
[10:08] <mwe> blueprints88888: XA9KJ-KYDFE-4856F-4W8XQ, KHJDE-TPM4L-Q0M6V-4YRX7
[10:08] <andcor> !wmware | ShadowX
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <blueprints88888> mwe thanks :)
[10:08] <andcor> !wmvare | ShadowX
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmvare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <livingdaylight> i only have one dvd player/copyer so how do i copy the dvd and burn it ?
[10:08] <andcor> !vmware | ShadowX
[10:08] <ubotu> ShadowX: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[10:08] <Savage-{> andcor: lol
[10:09] <andcor> Savage-{: only third time ;-)
[10:09] <mwe> andcor: it's vmware not wmware
[10:09] <mwe> andcor: you figured ;)
[10:09] <andcor> mwe: got it right eventually ;-)
[10:09] <matteo> is the player GPL?
[10:09] <blueprints88888> mwe wow i get invalid,guess you can only use it once
[10:10] <livingdaylight> can some one tell me?
[10:10] <Kyral> matteo: I highly doubt it
[10:10] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. or is that one for the workstation. hang on
[10:10] <pingswept> How can I downgrade xserver-xorg-core from the latest version in feisty to 1.1.1-0ubuntu12?
[10:10] <blueprints88888> mwe k
[10:10] <Kyral> matteo: If you want a GPL'd replacement for VMWare look to Qemu
[10:10] <pingswept> The version in feisty has won me a white screen.
[10:10] <matteo> i know qemu
[10:10] <Kyral> matteo: It can even "play" VMWare images
[10:11] <mwe> blueprints88888: try this one: 904K8-YAPF7-2DM1N-4JJ3N
[10:11] <blueprints88888> mwe k
[10:11] <matteo> qemu is slow even with kqemu
[10:11] <ShadowX> heh, Gparted said it couldnt perform the task, but it resized it no problem
[10:11] <blueprints88888> mwe nice thanks alot :)
[10:11] <mwe> blueprints88888: worked?
[10:11] <blueprints88888> mwe sure did :)
[10:11] <mwe> good
[10:12] <blueprints88888> thanks
[10:12] <mwe> yw
[10:12] <gaspipe1> hey people
[10:12] <funkyHat> Hi gaspipe1
[10:12] <yosyp> I'm installing a package with a lot of dependencies
[10:12] <yosyp> is there a way for the package to install all the dependencies?
[10:12] <gaspipe1> adaptr: testing konversation.....looks cool
[10:12] <yosyp> (xserver-xorg-video-810-modesetting)
[10:13] <mwe> yosyp: sudo apt-get install foo
[10:13] <yosyp> k
[10:13] <funkyHat> yosyp, yes... apt/synaptic should handle that for you automatically
[10:13] <mwe> yosyp: should get the deps
[10:13] <livingdaylight> i only have one dvd player/copyer so how do i copy the dvd and burn it ?
[10:13] <Enverex> What the... " 5451 root      16   0 1053m 1.0g  11m S    2 50.9  15:11.40 Xorg" Anyone know why XOrg would be using 50% of my RAM?
[10:13] <adaptr> gaspipe1: good! first thing I did was change the colors and increase the font size
[10:13] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i copy a dvd?
[10:13] <mwe> Enverex: it shouldn't, usually ;)
[10:14] <chrismhampson> i seem to have lost the ubuntu splash screens on startup...just a blank screen now. Any ideas on how to get it back?
[10:14] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: check out dvd::rip
[10:14] <blueprints88888> mwe for the setup wizard, for the os version, what if it doesnt have my verison
[10:14] <Jowi> chrismhampson, what did you do to lose them?
[10:14] <yosyp> funkyHat , mwe , it doesn't find it (xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting) because it is experimental
[10:14] <chrismhampson> Jowi, I installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, ?
[10:15] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, what is dvd: :rip?
[10:15] <Jowi> chrismhampson, so the screen is blank until the kdm/gdm screen show so you can log in?
[10:15] <mwe> blueprints88888: it doesn't? what is it?
[10:15] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: you said you are looking for something to copy DVD's?
[10:15] <blueprints88888> its Windows XP Media Center Version 2005
[10:15] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. windows xp I guess. (cross fingers)
[10:16] <blueprints88888> should i choose windows xp 2003 home edition
[10:16] <Enverex> Loads of KDE based stuff seems to be running when I bring up TOP and check my memory usage. Is there any way to stop that from happening?
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, no, i have k3b. But i don't know how to copy the dvd coz i only have one dvd player
[10:16] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: yes, so you need to rip it
[10:16] <mwe> blueprints88888: It will *probably* work
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, normally, i can have cd in the cd tray and then the blank in the dvd tray
[10:16] <Savage-{> then burn it with k3b
[10:16] <blueprints88888> mwe ok
[10:16] <chrismhampson> Jowi, yep that's it
[10:16] <Jowi> chrismhampson, sounds like framebuffer problem.
[10:16] <mwe> blueprints88888: don't count on it though
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, bu8t it just says burn and then it will ask for a blank and it hasn't copied the dvd yet
[10:16] <Jowi> !framebuffer | chrismhampson
[10:16] <ubotu> chrismhampson: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[10:17] <mwe> blueprints88888: but I think it will
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, yes, so how do i rip it?
[10:17] <yosyp> ugh,
[10:17] <yosyp> too many depencencies
[10:17] <yosyp> this is dependencie hell
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, if i right-click it doesnt exactly say 'copy'
[10:17] <chrismhampson> Jowi, not sure i understand
[10:17] <mwe> good night all
[10:17] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: it isn't going to work like 1, 2, 3 hehe
[10:18] <adam__> #ubuntu-pl
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: just download it and try it out
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, 1,2,3,4,5,6?
[10:18] <n2diy> Anybody know how I can recover an old pgp key? I haven't used it in a decade, but would like to now, if I can recover it off the net.
[10:18] <Jowi> chrismhampson, follow the link that ubotu gave you. read from "The black screen" and onward. it sounds like the problem you have.
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: it is in the repo just do a search in snaptic
[10:18] <gaspipe1> adap
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, dvd: :rip?
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: yeah search for dvd
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, that will let me rip it and then i can copy it with k3b?
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: yes
[10:19] <bad_cables> is anyone in here a PPC pro?
[10:19] <ShadowX> can someone tell me how stable the EXT2/3 driver for Windows is?
[10:19] <chrismhampson> Jowi, ok thanks
[10:19] <Jowi> chrismhampson, ...because you don't see any messages at all during boot do you? no splash and no messages until the login screen?
[10:19] <wezzie> how do i install KDE on a fresh install of edgy
[10:19] <gaspipe1> adaptr: easiest way to add or remove a program is under Applications, add/remove?
[10:19] <bad_cables> i cant get my CRT to work
[10:19] <shadowfku> Hi.. anybody kows a repository that i can find libcairo1.2.6?
[10:19] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: if you need more assistance then do a google search for dvd::rip howto
[10:19] <chrismhampson> Jowi, no i see a few messages
[10:19] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: I am still kinda new to it too
[10:19] <Judicata> does anyone have XGL+Beryl working since the update?
[10:19] <edion> if i want to install licq what shall i write then
[10:19] <Jowi> chrismhampson, oh. then skip the framebuffer page
[10:19] <ShadowX> can someone tell me how stable the EXT2/3 driver for Windows is?
[10:19] <ET-Ben> crimsun: hows it going?
[10:20] <Joanie> hey.  something bad happened along the way in my upgrade from edgy to feisty.  is there an easy way to revert back to edgy and give it another go, or should I just wipe and start over? :-)
[10:20] <chrismhampson> Jowi, it seems to me that usplash isn't working properly
[10:20] <adaptr> gaspipe1: why do you ask ? if anything is self-explanatory....
[10:20] <Jowi> chrismhampson, instead, have a look in /boot/grub/menu.lst if the word "splash" appear last in the kernel line
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, i found dvdrip and downloading/installing now
[10:20] <wezzie> !kde
[10:20] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:20] <chrismhampson> Jowi, i tried reinstalling usplash and the ubunu-usplash stuff but it didn't work
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, thx
[10:21] <bcardarella> Do I have to run crontab -e as sudo ?
[10:21] <Jowi> chrismhampson, I understand. can you please verify menu.lst?
[10:21] <gaspipe1> adaptr: just try'n to learn tricks or get tips from you
[10:21] <ET-Ben> !CTU
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CTU - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <adaptr> gaspipe1: just because I got you out of a noobie-crack doesn't mean I'll be your daddy from now on :) if you have any questions, just ask in channel; plenty of people to help
[10:21] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: np
[10:21] <gecko> how do u search using the bot? lol.. put a ! before?
[10:21] <gaspipe1> adaptr: no prob pops
[10:21] <adaptr> good boy
[10:22] <chrismhampson> Jowi, it reads /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash
[10:22] <yosyp> umm, how can i install a package that has a lot of dependencies and always fails?
[10:22] <ImSoScrewed> I need some help undestanding this HowTo  if anyone could take a look... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:22] <ShadowX> can someone tell me how stable the EXT2/3 driver for Windows is?
[10:23] <ET-Ben> Anyone here good with sound problems?
[10:23] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... you talking about ext2fsd?
[10:23] <ShadowX> um, lemme see
[10:24] <ShadowX> filename: Ext2IFS_1_10c.exe
[10:24] <ac2N_> hello
[10:24] <ac2N_> i installed cedega and far cry
[10:24] <ac2N_> and when i run farcry, i get this error:
[10:24] <Dell-Net> what is the name of the program that you update nvidia drivers?
[10:24] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... dunno about that one... fsd works good, just NEVER set it to automatically mount on startup
[10:24] <ac2N_> /usr/bin/cvscedega: line 108:  5305 Erreur de segmentation  "$ConfigurePrefix/bin/$WineExecName" "$@"
[10:24] <Savage-{> ac2N_: try wine
[10:24] <ac2N_> wineX ?
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: no just wine
[10:25] <ShadowX> if it works good, Im only gonna put the windows "My Documents" folder on an ext3 partition, cuz thats all I really need. anything else is pretty much windows-related only anyway. so Im not too concerned about having Linux access there
[10:25] <Dell-Net> what is the name of the program that you update nvidia drivers?
[10:25] <ac2N_> but farcry use directX9 not open GL
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: and switch to OpenGL mode
[10:25] <ac2N_> ok i will test like this
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: oh really
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: I thought they had opengl
[10:25] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX ... beyond me... good luck
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: nm then
[10:25] <ac2N_> but i m almost sure that farcry doenst know open gl
[10:25] <ac2N_> yes :)
[10:25] <Joanie> ping: something bad happened along the way in my upgrade from edgy to feisty.  is there an easy way to revert back to edgy and give it another go, or should I just wipe and start over? :-)
[10:26] <ac2N_> so with wineX
[10:26] <Savage-{> ac2N_: sorry to get your hopes up
[10:26] <Jowi> chrismhampson, if you type "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" are there any alternatives listed?
[10:26] <ImSoScrewed> I need some help undestanding this HowTo  if anyone could take a look... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:26] <ac2N_> Savage-{:  its nothing :)
[10:26] <ShadowX> thats all I really need to access via linux anyway. cuz both windows and linux have they're own partitions to install software and system crap too
[10:26] <bcardarella> Does cron keep a log of the jobs it has run?
[10:26] <ShadowX> they'll just share the external drive for my personal stuff, like pics and music and vids and stuff I am working on
[10:26] <chrismhampson> Jowi, I see the ubuntu and kubuntu splash options
[10:27] <yosyp> =[
[10:27] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... you want to access your My Documents folder contained in windows partition from linux?
[10:27] <chrismhampson> Jowi, the ubuntu one has a * next to it and the kubuntu has a +
[10:27] <Savage-{> ac2N_: might try cedega channel on that
[10:27] <yosyp> anyone here have xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting installed?
[10:27] <ac2N_> i try so
[10:27] <cafuego_> chrismhampson: + is the default, * is currently selected.
[10:27] <ac2N_> and no answer for the moment :s
[10:27] <ShadowX> yea, so Im moving My Documents to an ext3 partition, then allowing both Windows and linux (dualboot) to use it
[10:28] <Savage-{> ac2N_: I see
[10:28] <n2diy> Anybody know how I can recover an old pgp key? I haven't used it in a decade, but would like to now, if I can recover it off the net.
[10:28] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... you can access ntfs partitions from linux already.... seems like overkill
[10:28] <chrismhampson> cafuego, according to the output it says press enter to keep default [*] 
[10:28] <ShadowX> otherwise, about the only crap I really use anyway on that drive is Windows software, and theres no need for linux to have write acccess to it
[10:28] <Jowi> chrismhampson, ubuntu is the default one *
[10:28] <ShadowX> but I need write access
[10:28] <cafuego_> n2diy: The public key sure, but if you're missing the private key part, no chance.
[10:28] <ShadowX> RELIABLE write access
[10:28] <ImSoScrewed> !ntfs-3g | ShadowX
[10:28] <ubotu> ShadowX: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:28] <chrismhampson> Jowi, ok so i wonder why it won't show!
[10:28] <Jowi> chrismhampson, just type 1 and see if anything changes
[10:28] <ShadowX> exactly, BETA. I dont wanna take the chance
[10:28] <chrismhampson> Jowi, nope
[10:29] <ac2N_> do you know ntfs-3g ??
[10:29] <ET-Ben> Anyone know anything about Sound Problems - and yes I'm still here!
[10:29] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX.. i never had a problem with it.
[10:29] <ShadowX> hmm
[10:29] <ac2N_> you can read and write ntfs partition with that :)
[10:29] <ShadowX> I knwo I can read and write, but I want to make sure Im not really taking a risk of losing data
[10:29] <as|an> is downloading files on emule safe on linux?
[10:29] <n2diy> cafuego, ok, how can I get the public key? Hopefully I have a backup somewhere with the private key on it?
[10:29] <chrismhampson> Jowi, I've changed it to kubuntu again. If I see kubuntu splash on reboot what would the problem be?
[10:29] <as|an> !emule
[10:29] <ikonia> ShadowX: there is that risk
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <ShadowX> exactly
[10:30] <as|an> do'h
[10:30] <ET-Ben> !sounds
[10:30] <ET-Ben> !sound
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <Jowi> chrismhampson, faulty theme maybe
[10:30] <ShadowX> so I figured it'd be safer if I just put my docs on an ext3 and installed a stable driver in windows
[10:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:30] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX  if you're worried about messing up your windows partition, make new partition for MyDocuments an NTFS one, and only use ntfs-3g on that partition
[10:30] <ikonia> ShadowX: there is no stable ext3 driver for windows
[10:30] <chrismhampson> Jowi, ok well thanks...I'll try giving it a reboot
[10:30] <ShadowX> but thats just it, I dont wanna lose THAT information
[10:30] <ImSoScrewed> I've had more problems with ext3 use in windows than the other way around
[10:30] <ShadowX> Linux needs no access to Windows
[10:30] <ShadowX> my documents is already stored on the external drive
[10:30] <ShadowX> but in NTFS
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> shadowX  how big is the drive?
[10:31] <ikonia> shadowX just be aware there is no stable way of accessing ext3 from windows
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> you could use FAT32
[10:31] <riotkittie> ok, for someone who is so worried about data loss, you sure make it sound like you dont do backups
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> it is stable for both
[10:31] <riotkittie> :P
[10:31] <ShadowX> riotkittie: my problem: I have a 250 gb drive
[10:31] <ShadowX> 80 gb worth of data
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> hey riotkittie.. could you look at this...I need some help undestanding this HowTo  if anyone could take a look... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:32] <ShadowX> and not enough room anywhere else to secure it, without wiping my deadmoo Mac drive
[10:32] <up365> ET-Ben: try this link worked for my SBLive http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[10:32] <riotkittie> ImSoScrewed: i cant help with tv output
[10:32] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX.... multiple FAT32 partitions?
[10:32] <ShadowX> anyone remember the biggest size for FAT32?
[10:32] <ImSoScrewed> riotkittie... i just need a little interpretation work
[10:33] <pedro> hello guys
[10:33] <ikonia> hello
[10:33] <pedro> does anyone know how to disabled the fsck checks when you're running on battery power?
[10:33] <ImSoScrewed> riotkittie... you once told me some cool stuff...I was using name CyberCod....RSEUB???
[10:33] <ikonia> pedro: not really possible to differentiate
[10:33] <ikonia> you'd have to setup a hardware profile
[10:33] <ImSoScrewed> I use different names when on customer machines
[10:33] <pedro> ikonia; because of upstart ?
[10:34] <pedro> sysvinit does it...
[10:34] <ikonia> pedro: no - because from a command line - how could you differentiate if there is power or not ?
[10:34] <riotkittie> ok let me take  a look but i am limited to elinks which is misbehaving
[10:34] <ImSoScrewed> I'm havin trouble understandin this line :   export XORG_PREFIX="/usr" (XORG_PREFIX/bin is where Xorg is located)
[10:34] <eni191__> exit
[10:34] <pedro> ikonia; well actually you can
[10:34] <pedro> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-sysvinit-commits/2005-November/000160.html
[10:34] <Balsamic_Chicken> how do i start vmware (from console)?
[10:34] <pedro> look the checkfs.sh
[10:35] <ikonia> pedro: so if you can ? whats the problem
[10:35] <pedro> oh god.
[10:35] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: vmwareplayer
[10:35] <Jowi> pedro, your best bet is probably in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[10:35] <pedro> that is sysvinit
[10:35] <pedro> not upstart
[10:35] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia thx
[10:35] <ikonia> pedro: but you're correct upstart doesn't work in the same way
[10:35] <pedro> ubuntu uses upstart not sysvinit
[10:35] <pedro> see the difference here?
[10:35] <ikonia> I hate upstart and think ubuntu has made a mistake
[10:35] <ikonia> yes, I'm well aware of the difference
[10:35] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia btw that doesn't work
[10:35] <MrKeuner> hi everyone. I have a dual boot laptop. sda1 is NTFS and sda5 is ext3. I am happy with my Ubuntu installation on sda5, however I have to reinstall xp on sda1 which will probably remove relevant grub files. How can I revet that grub file(s) back there after the xp re-installation? thank you
[10:35] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: vmware-player
[10:35] <aimtrainer> hi! Where to put a command that should be executed at boot?
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> !grub | MrKeuner
[10:36] <ubotu> MrKeuner: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:36] <pedro> Jowi; thanks i'm gonna take a look to it ;)
[10:36] <ikonia> aimtrainer: in the init scripts for 6.0.6 in upstart deps script for edgy
[10:36] <MrKeuner> tonyyarusso: thanks
[10:36] <kordobes> hola
[10:36] <ImSoScrewed> MrKeuner... you can also use the Ultimate Boot CD    just google it... it will restore grub correctly
[10:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia same thing
[10:36] <ImSoScrewed> very easy
[10:36] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: look for the vmware player command
[10:36] <jin> what program cna you use to rip off the audio from a video file?
[10:36] <MrKeuner> ImSoScrewed: thank you, too
[10:36] <aimtrainer> ikonia, yea im running edgy - where are those scripts?
[10:36] <vnx> Hi. My system stopped booting into x. I see S*gdm and S*kdm in rc2.d and rc3.d (this is where they should be, right?) but x doesn't start on boot. how do I enable it?
[10:36] <ikonia> !upstart > aimtrainer
[10:37] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia that's what i was looking for here hehe =)
[10:37] <ikonia> vnx: probably X is not configured
[10:37] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: do a find for it
[10:37] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: check its even installed
[10:37] <aimtrainer> ikonia, thanks
[10:37] <vnx> I can boot into it manually though
[10:37] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia it was installed with synaptic
[10:37] <ikonia> vnx: are you using 6.0.6 or 6.10
[10:37] <vnx> 6.10
[10:37] <ikonia> !upstart > vnx
[10:38] <arti> hi
[10:38] <Megaqwerty> how do I recover a file I just "permanently deleted" from my Ubuntu Box?
[10:39] <ikonia> Megaqwerty: its gone
[10:39] <Savage-{> !upstart
[10:39] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[10:39] <Megaqwerty> ikonia: seriously?
[10:39] <gecko> Megaqwerty: its not like windows lol..
[10:39] <ikonia> Megaqwerty: yup
[10:39] <riotkittie> Megaqwerty: you dont. :P
[10:39] <msbt> hi
[10:39] <Jowi> !recover | Megaqwerty
[10:39] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[10:39] <shadowhywind> i was wondering if someone could help me with my resolution problem. It keeps defaulting to my laptop resolution instead of my external resolution
[10:39] <as|an> anyone?
[10:39] <as|an> lol.
[10:40] <ImSoScrewed> any luck understanding that riotkittie?
[10:40] <as|an> no really,. i asked the question some time ago. repeating it again. is it safe to use emule variants on Linux?
[10:40] <gecko> ubotu says ext2 partitions... but arent these partitions usually ext3?
[10:40] <vnx> thanks. I knew about upstart, but I thought I read something about "legacy" support. I'll read up. Thanks!
[10:40] <ikonia> as|an: why would it be / be not
[10:40] <ShadowX> can windows access fat32 thats 250 gb?
[10:40] <as|an> i've read all sorts of opinions- just would like to get an idea or two here
[10:40] <riotkittie> ImSoScrewed: not really, sorry. i am barely awake at the moment
[10:40] <ikonia> shadowX no thats a file system limitation
[10:40] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... i don't think FAT32 goes that high
[10:40] <eisma> could someone walk me through installing jre and flash on mycomputer?
[10:40] <gecko> lol riotkittie: u need some rest... gotta be able to keep up with the kids
[10:40] <ShadowX> what is the highest size?
[10:40] <ShadowX> anyone know?
[10:40] <ikonia> !flash > eimsa
[10:40] <Herhangibiri> hi
[10:41] <ShadowX> nm, wikipedia says 127.53
[10:41] <ikonia> ShadowX: something like 32gb
[10:41] <eisma> i don't want to read it off a website
[10:41] <ikonia> ahhh there you go
[10:41] <eisma> if i did, i wouldn't be here
[10:41] <jin> what program can you use to rip off the audio from a video file?
[10:41] <ikonia> eisma: thats the help you're going to get
[10:41] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... i can help with flash
[10:41] <ShadowX> Scandisk is the only reason Windows itself wont make em bigger
[10:41] <Jowi> gecko, ext3 is ext2+journalling and indexes I think
[10:41] <eisma> thanks ImSoScrewed
[10:41] <eisma> how do i get flash on my computer?
[10:41] <gecko> eisma: the whole purpose of this place is pretty much to "guide you in right direction" not necessarily we tell u what to do
[10:41] <eisma> so i can see flash videos and whatnot
[10:41] <ifbermeo> i justupgraded from dapper to edgy and I am having  trouble booting the new kernal. i am currently using 2.15.27.386 i think and the new one is 2.17.10.386 i think. when i attempt to boot the new one, the response is   really sluggish when i try to log in and my desktop never loads. does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:41] <gecko> use automatix2
[10:41] <Savage-{> eisma you can get it through snaptic now
[10:41] <eisma> well that doesn't help me cause i don't know
[10:42] <gecko> eisma: go to getautomatix.com and install it.
[10:42] <Savage-{> eisma synaptic
[10:42] <ikonia> !flash > eisma
[10:42] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... wait a sec... I'll try to PM you
[10:42] <ikonia> thats the right direction for you
[10:42] <gecko> ikonia lol
[10:42] <riotkittie> i can understand not understanding a website, or the instructions on it... but being flatout unwilling to read one... <scratches head>
[10:42] <ikonia> riotkittie: its just rude
[10:42] <eisma> that's cause i aleady have riotkittie
[10:42] <gecko> riotkittie: called laziness..not understandability
[10:42] <Jowi> Megaqwerty, "recover" (that's the name of the package) might help you but usually, if you delete it it's gone.
[10:43] <ikonia> eisma: what part of the instructions did you not understand
[10:43] <ImSoScrewed> its called getting fed up with bogus incomplete instructions that assume the reader knows something that he doesn't
[10:43] <eisma> no i followed instructions and it didn't work out for me
[10:43] <Megaqwerty> Jowi: yeah, that stinks I'm on ext3 so recover won't help me
[10:43] <ikonia> we can help you with specific questions
[10:43] <Jowi> Megaqwerty, try it
[10:43] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... you got the PM?
[10:43] <eisma> yeah i got it but i don't think you're getting mine
[10:43] <gnufied> my hostname is xaos, and machine is not on the internet. so is there anyway to tweak /etc/hosts file so that *.xaos when pinged local points to the same machine?
[10:43] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: the instructions are detailed and assume nothing
[10:43] <Megaqwerty> Jowi: it didn't detect any ext2 devices
[10:43] <eisma> ikonia obviously they do cause i can't get through it
[10:44] <Jowi> Megaqwerty, ah. how about e2undel?
[10:44] <gnufied> when pinged locally i meant
[10:44] <ikonia> eisma: what part are you strugging with
[10:44] <NeoGeo64> how do i delete linux and install vista?? vista is supposed to be better
[10:44] <NeoGeo64> windows vista is supposedly secure and has alott of  new features! like tabbed browsing and such
[10:44] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia.. try these instructions then and tell me what I'm supposed to do:    export XORG_PREFIX="/usr" (XORG_PREFIX/bin is where Xorg is located)
[10:44] <ikonia> NeoGeo64: just install vista - it well remove ubuntu
[10:44] <ShadowX> NeoGeo64: NO version of Windows will EVER surpass Linux in security and stablity
[10:44] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: what don't you understand about those
[10:44] <invisiblekid> Laughing Out Loud NeoGeo64 good luck on that
[10:44] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... you can send unless you register... reply to mine
[10:44] <ikonia> ShadowX its a troll
[10:44] <Judicata> NeoGeo64: go get a copy and put the Vista CD in.
[10:44] <Enverex> NeoGeo64, You have no ideas about OSs do you
[10:44] <ardchoille42> NeoGeo64, Windows will never be better than Linux.
[10:44] <gnufied> so in a word does /etc/hosts supports regular expressions?
[10:45] <Savage-{> eisma: just do apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:45] <abo> I'm having problems running beryl, anyone can help?
[10:45] <ikonia> gnufied: in what way
[10:45] <ikonia> abo /join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <ShadowX> I decided to just make 2 fat32
[10:45] <Judicata> abo: what card / driver?
[10:45] <riotkittie> oh yay. is it time for another "os 1 beats os 2!1!!11!!!" debate again.
[10:45] <ShadowX> no reason for security on the filesystem when the only place the drive will ever be is in my possession
[10:45] <abo> join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <Megaqwerty> too much trouble
[10:45] <Megaqwerty> forget it
[10:45] <gnufied> i can currently do manual entiries like 127.0.0.1 in.xaos and so on to make individual subdomains point to the same machine
[10:45] <ShadowX> besides, fat32 can be read and written by windows, linux, and mac natively. so im not worried about data loss
[10:46] <ikonia> gnufied: not sure what you mean
[10:46] <ImSoScrewed> shadowX... good going... just no files over 4GB... or they'll go missing
[10:46] <invisiblekid> yea but it doesnt support some larger files
[10:46] <Enverex> Holy cow,  Java 1.6 is 96MB
[10:46] <eisma> Savage if you get this
[10:46] <gnufied> ikonia, i want *.xaos point to localhost, without playing with dns settings. because I am working locally.
[10:46] <eisma> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:46] <eisma> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/),
[10:46] <eisma> how do you fix that?
[10:46] <ShadowX> hmm, in that case, I might do fat32 for everything, but have an NTFS for large files, JUST in case I need em lol
[10:46] <ikonia> gnufied: so just put in an alias
[10:46] <invisiblekid> eisma close synaptic
[10:46] <ikonia> eisma: you forgot sudo
[10:46] <eisma> it's not open
[10:46] <gnufied> ikonia, where?
[10:47] <linda>  install flash 9 http://www.debianadmin.com/install-flash-player-9-update-in-ubuntu.html
[10:47] <invisiblekid> use sudo then
[10:47] <ikonia> gnufied: /etc/hsots
[10:47] <ikonia> hosts
[10:47] <gnufied> ikonia, hmm can you tell me the line
[10:47] <Pesa> n8
[10:47] <gnufied> ikonia, when i say 127.0.0.1 *.xaos in /etc/hosts file it doesn't work
[10:47] <ikonia> gnufied:  127.0.0.1 localhost bigbox
[10:47] <ikonia> that puts the alias bigbox to point at localhost
[10:48] <n2diy> I just generated a gpg key, what is the key-id I need to send to the server?
[10:48] <notbook> can somebody tell me why when I install extra fonts the system says error there is no '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' directory ?
[10:48] <Jowi> gnufied, it is simple "127.0.0.1 localhost www.myhost.com myhost mail.myhost.com etc, etc, etc...
[10:48] <ikonia> notbook: is there a file ?
[10:48] <ikonia> or directory
[10:48] <gnufied> ikonia, ok but i am generating subdomains dynamically and i can't possibly type all the entries
[10:48] <gnufied> ikonia, and hence i need regular expressions
[10:48] <LinTux> I installed KDE in Console, how do I completely remove it?
[10:48] <ikonia> gnufied: you need some clever scripting
[10:48] <notbook> can somebody tell me why when I install extra fonts the system says error there is no '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' directory ? I'm using ubuntu 6.10 edgy
[10:48] <ikonia> LinTux: apt-get remove
[10:49] <ikonia> notbook: does that path exist#
[10:49] <ardchoille42> LinTux, You want to return to pure gnome?
[10:49] <theCore> I got an interesting question from someone in another channel: "Is it possible to install linux on a computer without a screen?"
[10:49] <ImSoScrewed> quote "ikonia: ImSoScrewed: what don't you understand about those"   i don't understand what i'm supposed to replace XORG_PREFIX with
[10:49] <LinTux> ikonia: I tried that but it is still in the session options at logon and is still there
[10:49] <NeoGeo64> How come all the video players on Linux suck?  I'm trying to skip through a movie file so I hit click where I want it to go and it just skips foward 3 seconds instead, of backwards, whatever it feels like doing.
[10:49] <ikonia> LinTux: not removed all the packages
[10:49] <notbook> no
[10:49] <ikonia> NeoGeo64: troll elsewhere please before I request an op bans you
[10:49] <ikonia> notbook: there is the problem
[10:50] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: what are you trying to do please
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> im not trolling ikonia
[10:50] <LinTux> ardchoille42: Yes m8, back to good old Gnome thats what I want?
[10:50] <ardchoille42> NeoGeo64, Please go away
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> im asking a question
[10:50] <notbook> ikonia: then how to fix it ?
[10:50] <ikonia> notbook: make the dir
[10:50] <ardchoille42> LinTux, Try this page: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[10:50] <ImSoScrewed> NeoGeo64 what players have you tried?
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> gxine and movie player
[10:50] <Jowi> NeoGeo64, /join #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:50] <invisiblekid> NeoGeo64 just plain xine
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> im having trouble skipping and seeking thru files, it just goes ahead 3 seconds wherever i click on the line
[10:51] <ImSoScrewed> NeoGeo64   try vlc
[10:51] <zapd0s> what does URI mean for printers?
[10:51] <invisiblekid> use xine instead of gxine, it always works better for me
[10:51] <invisiblekid> or vlc
[10:51] <ImSoScrewed> NeoGeo64   install package   wxvlc
[10:52] <Feengur> I installed nvidia drivers for my 7600gt last night and my res is stuck at 800x600.  I've run nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings.  The resolutions are listed in my xorg.conf, but they aren't showing up.  Any suggestions?
[10:52] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia... any idea what I should put there?  its not the xorg.conf  its somethin else
[10:52] <ardchoille42> NeoGeo64, With the first few comments you made coming into this channel, I"m surprised you'd get any help here at all.
[10:52] <notbook> ikonia: after make the dir, should I have to copy the subfolder content from /usr/share/X11/fonts/* into there?
[10:52] <vnx> hi again. it seems like for now upstart just runs the runlevel scripts. is this true? if so, shouldn't having S*gdm in /etc/rc2.d allow me to boot into x? my system just goes to the terminal. I'm new to all this, so I could easily be doing something very wrong. Any advice?
[10:52] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: not sure what you're trying to do - are you trying to compile software
[10:52] <pinks02> can anyone help me sort out a gateway/route problem please? I can connect ppp to the internet and get the ISP's local and remote IP's, DNS etc, but I can't ping or browse
[10:53] <crazytales> what happened? I went to install a fx5200, then started up
[10:53] <crazytales> now i am in text mode
[10:53] <crazytales> how do I get GMONE back?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> crazytales: ctrl+alt+f7
[10:53] <remyforbes777> crazytales, is GMone your boyfriend?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> crazytales: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:53] <remyforbes777> is he french
[10:53] <crazytales> 'the X server is now disabled'
[10:53] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia  yes... im trying to get TV out to work on a radeon 9250... i have this HOWTO, but no idea what its asking me to do... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:53] <Feengur> any suggestions?
[10:54] <n2diy> I just generated a gpg key, what is the key-id I need to send to the server?
[10:54] <crazytales> remyforbes777: that was a typos
[10:54] <crazytales> typo*
[10:54] <remyforbes777> crazytales, lol
[10:54] <remyforbes777> crazytales, just teasing
[10:54] <crazytales> (:
[10:54] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: I don't think thats a great document
[10:54] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia  i got down to the line    export XORG_PREFIX="/usr" (XORG_PREFIX/bin is where Xorg is located)
[10:55] <phixnay> hey can anyone help me install wine? I'm using a guide, but I'm having trouble understanding the directions
[10:55] <ImSoScrewed> great or not... by process of elimination, its the only hope i have left
[10:55] <crazytales> I feel like ImSoScrewed right now (at least as far as nick goes)
[10:55] <crazytales> since i do not have X at all
[10:55] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its asking for the prefix to the bin dir for Xorg
[10:55] <Feengur> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:55] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia... and that would be?
[10:55] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: probably /usr/X11
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia... what OS you running? could you see what it is for yours?
[10:56] <ikonia> I'm not on ubuntu so it won't be the same
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> ok... crud
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> brb
[10:56] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its probably /usr/X11
[10:56] <nazgjunk> o.O wow this place is filled up
[10:56] <david___> hola algun espaol?
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> I'll try it
[10:56] <Ubuntu_on_fire> can anyone help me... i cant connect to the internet through my wireless device i got the driver installed and i got the wep key and told it that it was using hex code and everything, when i select it on the icon thing on the menu (the connection stats thing, ubuntus version of windows start bar status icons... the icon with two little windows) and select my connection it says signal 80%...
[10:56] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ...then i try to go to a web site and i cant... wats the matter? i tried to install a wireless manager but i dont know how to install it from that compressed folder (.tar)
[10:56] <ikonia> !es > david_____
[10:56] <gnomefreak> david___: #ubuntu-es
[10:56] <Savage-{> phixnay: apt-get install wine
[10:56] <ikonia> !es > david____
[10:56] <nazgjunk> anyway.
[10:57] <nazgjunk> When I compiled a new kernel, i got the classic error that there was no valid block device or something like that, pretty much the default when you fail to compile the filesystem in. Thing is, I did compile the filesystem in (yes, i did.). Anything else I could have missed? Machine is a compaq armada 1750.
[10:57] <david___> thanks
[10:57] <crazytales> apparently, there's an X server issue after installing the video card
[10:57] <david___> god bye
[10:57] <ImSoScrewed> bash: export: `/usr/X11=/usr': not a valid identifier
[10:57] <ikonia> nazgjunk: the disk drivers
[10:57] <uFranky> Is there a way to see a DVB-T stream over local area network?
[10:57] <Feengur> imsoscrewed
[10:57] <crazytales> i can't live just in text mode
[10:57] <Feengur>  /etc/X11
[10:57] <ImSoScrewed> Feengur  yes?
[10:58] <ikonia> crazytales: do don't
[10:58] <Feengur> not /usr
[10:58] <ikonia> Feengur: thats the config
[10:58] <nazgjunk> ikonia, you almost made me scream, until i realised that disk != fs
[10:58] <ikonia> its asking for the bin prefix
[10:58] <ieldib> hey everybody
[10:58] <nazgjunk> few weeks of windows have dumbed me down :/
[10:58] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ????
[10:58] <ImSoScrewed> what exactly is a bin prefix?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ImSoScrewed: .bin
[10:58] <phixnay> Savage-{: yeah I wanted to do that but I have amd 64. I was able to install it, but OpenGL is linked wrong. There are instructions to fix it on the guide, but I don't understand what to do. Could you look at it? Here is the guide: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:58] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: the prefix directory before /bin for the X11 binairyes
[10:58] <ImSoScrewed> so I'm looking for xorg.bin?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: that'd be a suffix, but hey
[10:58] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: no
[10:58] <ieldib> nazgjunk, i hear that i'am taking CEN_1300 (first MCSE course)
[10:58] <ieldib> and i hate it
[10:59] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its probably /usr/X11 - try it
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ImSoScrewed: not for a config file
[10:59] <jughead> Are the performance increases worth the extra $$ for dual core athlons (X2)?  a 3700+ single core is only $90 but an X2 4400+ is $250... is it that much better?
[10:59] <ompaul> !offtopic | ieldib
[10:59] <ubotu> ieldib: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed> I did try it... didn't take it
[10:59] <crazytales> ikonia: well, i don't know how to get GNOME working again. Since I'm not experienced in command line. I think it's a driver issue after I installed the video card to upgrade from integrated graphics.
[10:59] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: can you show me the error
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed> yup
[10:59] <pinks02> can anyone help me sort out a gateway/route problem please? I can connect ppp to the internet and get the ISP's local and remote IP's, DNS etc, but I can't ping or browse
[10:59] <Feengur> jughead
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed>  export "/usr/X11"="/usr"
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed> bash: export: `/usr/X11=/usr': not a valid identifier
[10:59] <jughead> he Feengur
[10:59] <Feengur> 3800+ X2
[10:59] <ieldib> ubotu, sorry
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Feengur> best bang for the buck
[11:00] <Feengur> and best for OC
[11:00] <ImSoScrewed> tried it without quotes too
[11:00] <ieldib> lol , damn bots
[11:00] <phixnay> ubuntu_on_fire: what wireless card do you have, and how did you install it?
[11:00] <ImSoScrewed> same msg
[11:00] <crazytales> My previous graphics device was an intel 845G, this is now a fx5200
[11:00] <ET-Ben> Anyone got any stuff on sorting out sound problems?
[11:00] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, install "network-manager-gnome" from synaptic. log out and log in again. you will now have a better wireless config tool in the taskbar. (only used it once and it works fine for me. but since then I've disabled wireless on this machine since I never use it)
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> !sound | ET-Ben
[11:00] <ubotu> ET-Ben: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:00] <Feengur> i'm running 7600gt but i'm stuck in 800x600 :P
[11:00] <PWizard> Greetings, all
[11:00] <Feengur> hi
[11:00] <ieldib> feengur,  card issue ?
[11:00] <jughead> Feengur, I usually get my stuff online at newegg, but the only socket 939 X2 they have listed is the 4400+
[11:00] <Feengur> nah
[11:00] <Feengur> the card is reporting correctly
[11:00] <kleinweby> hello, i have a problem with my intel hda card. see this dmesg output http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6908/  can any one help me?
[11:00] <Feengur> the xorg.conf seems to be right
[11:01] <ieldib> feengur, i have a 7600gt on the desktop i plan on installing ubuntu on as well
[11:01] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: what the hell are you doing ????
[11:01] <ieldib> can anyone help me get the cube effect going in compiz ?
[11:01] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its TELLING you what it want
[11:01] <ET-Ben> tony: Tried that - no good
[11:01] <jughead> are there other resellers that you know to be as reputable as newegg?
[11:01] <ikonia> XORG_PREFIX - not USR/X11
[11:01] <ImSoScrewed> ?
[11:01] <ieldib> I already have XGL/Compiz installed
[11:01] <phixnay> can anybody take a moment and help me understand some instructions?
[11:01] <PWizard> I dist-upgraded to edgy a while back and then took my LCD display to work; I want to turn off subpixel antialiasing now, but gnome won't cooperate.  It just stays in subpixel if I set it to grayscale.
[11:01] <ieldib> phixany, sure
[11:01] <ImSoScrewed> ok... i took it to mean I was supposed to put something in there in its place
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> jowi- where can i get it
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ?
[11:02] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its asking for the varible XORG_PREFIX to be set
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> and is it an rpm or a tar file?
[11:02] <ImSoScrewed> oh.. narf
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> cuz i dont know how to use tar files
[11:02] <Feengur> hmm jug
[11:02] <Feengur> that's where i got mine from :P
[11:02] <Jowi> !info network-manager-gnome
[11:02] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[11:02] <cappiz_> Jowi, correct syntax is !addinfo <release> <files> <size_in_mb>, fix your script
[11:02] <Feengur> but, the 4200+ is pretty good as well
[11:02] <ieldib> ubuntu_on_Fire goto applications and add/remove
[11:02] <PWizard> Has anyone seen this behavior before?  Turning AA off works fine,
[11:02] <LinTux> Ikonia: thanks m8
[11:02] <Jowi> cappiz, ?
[11:02] <phixnay> ieldib: ok. I have amd64 and I installed wine using these instructions, but OpenGL doesn't work. It has instructions on how to fix it, but I don't understand them. Here is the site: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[11:02] <Feengur> you can get comperable ops to the FX series with a little tweaking :D
[11:03] <buchanp> hey guys i installed ubuntu and now windows wont boot
[11:03] <buchanp> i get filesystem type unknown
[11:03] <phixnay> !super grub disk
[11:03] <Feengur> mwave.com
[11:03] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[11:03] <Ubuntu_on_fire> oh
[11:03] <marlun> The unofficial ubuntu guide tells me that to remove totem firefox plugin i should do "sudo apt-get remove totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin" but if I do apt-get tells me it will remove that package plus ubuntu-desktop, I don't want it to remove ubuntu-desktop too, why is it doing that, what should I do?
[11:03] <Ubuntu_on_fire> so i just do to add more?
[11:03] <phixnay> d'oh
[11:03] <Ubuntu_on_fire> to add it
[11:03] <uFranky> how can i convert a compiled program to a *.deb file?
[11:03] <buchanp> !super grub disk
[11:03] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[11:03] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, open up synaptic package manager and search for it. click to select it and click on apply. it will be automatically downloaded and installed for you.
[11:04] <cappiz> Jowi  ?
[11:04] <uFranky> !SGD
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SGD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Jowi> cappiz, "<cappiz_> Jowi, correct syntax is !addinfo <release> <files> <size_in_mb>, fix your script" <--- not for me I guess :)
[11:04] <buchanp> anyone familiar with dual booting ubuntu and windows xp
[11:04] <phixnay> buchanp: use super grub disk http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[11:04] <kleinweby> nobody has an idea? :(
[11:04] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ohk
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> this is in ubuntu right?
[11:05] <ieldib> phixany ? what do you not understand ?
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> im on my windows boot
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> so i wanna be sure as possible
[11:05] <ieldib> you are basically copying and pasting into a terminal
[11:05] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, yes, of course in ubuntu
[11:05] <humbolto> flashplugin-nonfree installer package does not work any more in edgy. at least not with the de_AT local!
[11:05] <humbolto> What can I do?
[11:05] <cappiz> ah lol
[11:05] <humbolto> When the installer downloads the file, where does it put it?
[11:05] <phixnay> ieldib: how do I remove the symbolic links? just like it says
[11:05] <cappiz> sorry :
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> oh one thing
[11:05] <cappiz> my other bnc shait
[11:05] <ImSoScrewed> still not goin right.... grrrrr
[11:06] <humbolto> I want to put it in the same location.
[11:06] <LinTux> ok, I have eventually managed to completely get rid of KDE, now I need to completely uninstall XFCE4, how do I do this?
[11:06] <cole> hello
[11:06] <Ubuntu_on_fire> if its downloaded and i have no internet connection then how will it download?
[11:06] <humbolto> because choosing the directory where you downloaded it by hand, does not work either.
[11:06] <cole> how do you turn a tar.bz2 file into a deb filed?
[11:06] <eternaljoy> whats a good way to check for virus on Ubuntu?
[11:06] <phixnay> ieldib: I don't know which directory I'm supposed to be in, and I don't know how to do this "LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure"
[11:06] <eternaljoy> .clear
[11:06] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:07] <ieldib> phixany ln -sf /usr/lib /usr/lib64
[11:07] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, it will get it from the installation cd if you insert it after ubuntu has booted
[11:07] <buchanp> i did grub disk and it put me to a grub prompt ?
[11:07] <marlun> When apt-get say it will remove ubuntu-desktop does it mean it will remove all packages that is connected to ubuntu-desktop or just that the ubuntu-desktop package won't be complete if I remove totem?
[11:07] <Jowi> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:07] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[11:07] <cafuego_> marlun: the latter
[11:07] <apokryphos> more info in the FAQ
[11:08] <LinTux> how do I completely uninstall XFCE4
[11:08] <phixnay> ieldib: ok, doing that
[11:08] <marlun> ok, thanks! =)
[11:08] <dtvarnum> anyone in Seattle?
[11:08] <vray> question: could someone please point me in the direction of a dynamic IP updating program that a) works with 6.10, b) works from a NATted box and c) is compatible with dhs.org's dynamic IP service?    ...dhs.org's own list is woefuly out of date.
[11:08] <phixnay> ieldib: it needs sudo... k I did it, now what?
[11:08] <Dreamglider> i am in live session now, and installing ubuntu the only way i got it to install was to disable the dual core in bios. now afterubuntu is installed what will happen if i enable dual core ?
[11:09] <bimberi> vray: ez-ipupdate claims to work with dhs.org
[11:09] <humblerodent> On a fresh Edgy install, any attempt to install/configure software packages using dpkg or apt-get results in a hard system crash (nothing responds whatsoever, and a cold system turn-off/reboot is required).  It works perfectly fine as long as I don't install/configure any software packages.  Can anyone help me?  TIA
[11:10] <Ubuntu_on_fire> is it right to be a 247kb dec file?
[11:10] <Ubuntu_on_fire> deb*
[11:11] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, sounds about right
[11:11] <blaze_> Hey all
[11:12] <Dreamglider> i am in live session now, and installing ubuntu the only way i got it to install was to disable the dual core in bios. now after ubuntu is installed what will happen if i enable dual core ? help
[11:12] <Dreamglider> -help
[11:13] <LinTux> I used apt-get to remove XFCE4, but I still have it in the session selection?
[11:13] <crazytales> okay
[11:13] <heiko> with feisty, how do i give a user the rights to run stuff with realtime permissions?
[11:13] <crazytales> so how do i get dapper to recognise my fx5200
[11:13] <Ubuntu_on_fire> dreamglider - enable it, sometimes linux cant use thing on live boot, if it doesnt work then disable it and try again
[11:13] <crazytales> starting it up after the fx5200 is installed
[11:13] <Jowi> LinTux, "xfce4" is a metapackage for xfce so that sounds right
[11:13] <Ubuntu_on_fire> things*
[11:13] <crazytales> only gets me textmode
[11:14] <ciagin> dreamglider try to activate multiple cpu support in the kernel
[11:14] <adaptr> !nvidia | crazytales
[11:14] <ubotu> crazytales: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:14] <Ubuntu_on_fire> er..... or that
[11:14] <crazytales> things like this make me wonder why i ever switch to linux
[11:14] <Dreamglider> i neeeed help with that
[11:14] <LinTux> Jowi: how can I completely unistall XFCE & XFCE4?
[11:14] <ImSoScrewed> getting this error now... any help?    ./configure $XORG_CONFIG --with-xorg-module-dir=$XORG_PREFIX/lib/X11/modules
[11:14] <ImSoScrewed> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:14] <adaptr> Dreamglider: as I said before, you most likely need a custom kernel that can handle the core Duo
[11:15] <Jowi> LinTux, to see which packages "xfce4" has installed type in a terminal "apt-cache show xfce4"
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> whats the name of this dock for linux and where do i download it
[11:15] <adaptr> ImSoScrewed: and you're doing this why ?
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9waEFF57Y8
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i think its kiba-dock
[11:15] <ImSoScrewed> because i need tv-out
[11:15] <Amerision> Anyone well versed on fixing the Hal problem?
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> but where do i download it
[11:16] <phixna1> ieldib: sorry, my internet crashed. what am I supposed to do after sudo ln -sf /usr/lib /usr/lib64 ?
[11:16] <Jowi> LinTux, after that's done just select the packages for removal in synaptic
[11:16] <adaptr> Ubuntu_on_fire: you *think* ? bleh
[11:16] <adaptr> ImSoScrewed: TV out on what hardware ?
[11:16] <user-land> Hi, my Xorg consistently uses some 40% CPU on my AMD 64 3500+.
[11:16] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok im pritty sure it is
[11:17] <Ubuntu_on_fire> but where do i download it
[11:17] <adaptr> user-land: what video driver ?
[11:17] <user-land> running Ubuntu 6.10
[11:17] <ImSoScrewed> adaptr  radeon 9250
[11:17] <adaptr> !kiba
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <user-land> adaptr, nothing fancy as far as i know.
[11:17] <ciagin> hi everybody, i've got a little problem with my webcam, it worx but it doesn't switch off after booting like it did before upgrading to 6.10
[11:17] <adaptr> user-land: what video hardware ?
[11:17] <Amerision> I get the Hal.dll error on Win's startup when i installed Ubuntu  - changes in the boot.ini don't seem to work
[11:17] <asdx> where is ruby gems in ubuntu?
[11:17] <ciagin> i'm using quickcam communicate stx
[11:18] <phixna1> ieldib: are you still there?
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> anyone know how/where to download it
[11:18] <user-land> adaptr: GraphicsCard: Asus EN7600GS SILENT/HTD, GeForce 7600GS, 512MB, passive cooling
[11:18] <vray> bimberi: thank you - i noticed at http://ez-ipupdate.com/userdoc.php that this program has no way of detecting a new IP if it's not on the gateway machine, which would be my situation. unfortunately, this site seems quite old and the rest of the commentary on this topic is unavailable. do you have any insight on this issue?
[11:18] <adaptr> Ubuntu_on_fire: too lazy to google ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i did
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> b ut couldnt find anyhting
[11:18] <adaptr> user-land: and you don't run the nvidia binary, I suppose
[11:18] <adaptr> Ubuntu_on_fire: then you're a retard :)
[11:18] <LinTux> Jowi: Cheers m8, all gone now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:18] <user-land> adaptr, i would need to check, but how ?
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ive been here
[11:19] <Jowi> np LinTux
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i couldnt find where to download it
[11:19] <adaptr> user-land: if you don't *know*, then you're not using the binaries.. believe me
[11:19] <bimberi> vray: sorry, no.  I was just aware of its existence but aren't a user
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i got this AMD64 file
[11:19] <adaptr> !nvidia | user-land
[11:19] <ubotu> user-land: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> or sumthing like that
[11:19] <ShadowX> how do I run eterm once its installed?
[11:19] <stia1> \nick stian\thesis
[11:19] <stia1> eh
[11:19] <user-land> would you recommend installing it, adaptr ?
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> oh and in the boxes it says code does that mean the stuff i type in on the terminal
[11:20] <Ubuntu_on_fire> sorry im new to linux and all this is very confusing
[11:20] <phixna1> ubuntu_on_fire: yeah you copy that directly into the terminal
[11:20] <verma> 3c59x is a bitch
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu_on_fire: yes
[11:20] <adaptr> user-land: if you don't install it you wil lnever get to see beryl :)
[11:20] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> cool
[11:21] <phixna1> ubuntu_on_fire: one line at a time though
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ill make sure i do
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu_on_fire: dont type anything with a # at the start of a line if there is any
[11:21] <bitchslapper> any ideas how I can go about installing a 3c59x?
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> u mean i should only type if theres that $?
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> or on the code itself
[11:22] <ShadowX> how do I run eterm once its installed?
[11:22] <bitchslapper> its such an old chipset, and still the support for it is shaddy
[11:22] <adaptr> user-land: having a kick-ass nvidia card and NOT using the hardware drivers would be just as much fun as putting in a PCI video card
[11:22] <anderbubble_> I'm trying to reinstall Xubuntu on a laptop with a PCMCIA cd-rom. The drive worked in all previous versions (and in debian), and works on the installed Xubuntu 6.10 already on the laptop, but the installer can't see it. Can someone help me?
[11:23] <ImSoScrewed> I am so screwed
[11:23] <user-land> thanks, adaptr.
[11:23] <phixna1> Ubuntu_on_fire: the $ means you can use commands as a user, which is what you want to do
[11:23] <phixna1> if you see a line of code that looks like this #codecodeblahblahblah it normally means that it's a comment and you don't need to put it in
[11:23] <[dot] Al> how do I save the sudoers file using visudo?
[11:24] <adaptr> [dot] Al: erm.. save it ? ESC, :w
[11:25] <roho> !help
[11:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:25] <hairulfr> Hi all, anyone know where you set up the passkey for Bluetooth? I haven't set any password, I can send/receive, but not connect - is there a bluetooth manager of sorts?
[11:25] <crazytales> '
[11:25] <[dot] Al> adaptr, that doesnt do anything, is ESC supposed to make any symbols shows up?
[11:25] <crazytales> okay
[11:25] <Okiesmokie> does Ubuntu 6.06 LTS not come with gcc or something?
[11:25] <crazytales> i installed the nvidia drivers
[11:25] <crazytales> i am still in text mode
[11:25] <phixna1> hey everyone, I'm trying to install wine from source (cause I'm on Edgy 64) and the guide tells me to do this: "LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure"
[11:25] <crazytales> what gives.
[11:25] <adaptr> [dot] Al: no, it is supposed to return you to the vi command line
[11:25] <phixna1> is this a regular command that I can just put into the terminal?
[11:25] <hairulfr> !bluetooth
[11:25] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:26] <blaze_> !eye candy
[11:26] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:26] <crazytales> !nvidia
[11:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:26] <Dreamglider> Ok i cannot boot with dual core, how do i get a kernel that will boot duo ?
[11:26] <phaidros> is there an virtualization irc ??
[11:26] <Okiesmokie> hmm
[11:26] <phaidros>  ubuntu edgy with xen and vserver ??
[11:26] <Okiesmokie> !nforce
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Okiesmokie> :(
[11:26] <roho> !webmin
[11:26] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[11:26] <roho> why should webmin not be used?
[11:27] <roho> manipulating iptables rules can be difficult - it's easier with webmin
[11:27] <ShadowX> how do I run eterm once its installed?
[11:27] <ubuntubr> a
[11:28] <shadowhywind> anyone around that could help me with a resolution problem. It keeps defaulting to my laptop screen resolution, and not my external resolution, even after setting the correct size in xorg.conf
[11:28] <arash_> webmin is really useful in some cases
[11:28] <roho> ShadowX: i think just Eterm
[11:28] <LinTux> anybody know how to get Edgy EFT to see my Nvidia 700LE video card
[11:28] <Eroick> If I install VMware, can I use a Firewire audio device that isnt supported on linux
[11:28] <Eroick> ??
[11:28] <roho> arash_: i just want to know why it's not supported and why they want you to avoid using it
[11:28] <ShadowX> THANKS DUDE
[11:28] <buchanp> exit
[11:28] <[dot] Al> still doesnt work
[11:28] <ShadowX> I figured it was "eterm"
[11:28] <arash_> webmin?!
[11:28] <ShadowX> ugh, the only bad part of case-sensitivity :P
[11:29] <roho> yes, webmin
[11:29] <arash_> donno, i like it
[11:29] <LinTux> Where can I download a driver for Nvidia 7300LE
[11:29] <arash_> anyway you can dl it from upstream
[11:30] <AndrewB> LinTux: off the nvidia site?
[11:30] <turbolover> hm
[11:30] <turbolover> i think i killed x
[11:30] <roho> well, the thing that angered me was that when i updated apt packages, it not only removed webmin, it left my firewall rules empty, without telling me and without any other suggestion
[11:30] <turbolover> err... i did
[11:30] <roho> i don't have time to learn how to use iptables yet
[11:30] <LinTux> tried that, I cannot get to grips with the install procedure
[11:30] <roho> i will, but i needed something in the interim
[11:30] <phaidros> anybody xen and vserver on edgy?
[11:31] <joshy> phaidros: i have tryed, but it don't work
[11:31] <arash_> you mean you did a apt-get update and it removed webmin?!
[11:31] <edion> i need help
[11:31] <livingdaylight> anyone know how to use dvd: :rip?
[11:31] <phaidros> josh_, hm I try since hours to find a way to patch a kernel, that it is domU and can hadnle vservers ..
[11:31] <phaidros> how did u try?
[11:31] <hagabaka> does apt-get keep a log of upgrades?
[11:32] <edion> anyone who can help me  with an x problem
[11:32] <phaidros> edion, tell your problem
[11:32] <turbolover> grr x crashes now
[11:32] <phaidros> hagabaka, there is a limit somewhere
[11:32] <bimberi> hagabaka: dpkg (which is used by apt-get) keeps a log at /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:32] <joshy> phaidros: I don't have to patch a kernel, because i've an core2 duo
[11:32] <turbolover> i didnt even do anything that i know of
[11:32] <a2k> 
[11:32] <Okiesmokie> Do you need an active connection to the internet to use apt-get?
[11:32] <a2k>   mlterm  )
[11:32] <phaidros> hagabaka, sorry, just read wrong, thought u ask for archives ;)
[11:32] <hagabaka> thanks
[11:33] <edion> phaidros i want to change resolution and after i configed xorg.conf my keyboard toped working so i can nolonger log in to x the numpad is work but no letterkeys
[11:33] <bimberi> Okiesmokie: yes, unless the files are stored on local media
[11:33] <phaidros> josh_, what exactly did you do trying to run xen with vserver?
[11:33] <turbolover> yes! i love nuking my OS
[11:33] <fro> hi there
[11:33] <turbolover> its fun
[11:33] <phaidros> edion, uh, thats one I don't know, sorry
[11:33] <fro> can smb tell me how to use apt to install Wine from specified repo???
[11:34] <Okiesmokie> It's quite the paradox then, I need gcc to build my network drivers, but I can't use apt-get to get gcc?
[11:34] <adaptr> did you add the repo ?
[11:34] <arash_> anyone usin vaio
[11:34] <adaptr> Okiesmokie: of course you can - download the deb files anywhere and put them in /var/cache/apt/archive
[11:34] <arash_> i have got a problem with mouse pad?
[11:34] <adaptr> arash_: only you know that
[11:34] <user-land> adaptr, enabling nvidia-glx-config says unable to load nvidia driver for your running kernel
[11:35] <godtvisken> How do I find out the UUID of a disc?
[11:35] <adaptr> user-land: yes, you need to load the nvidia module first
[11:35] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen and vserver?
[11:35] <adaptr> godtvisken: cat /etc/fstab
[11:35] <edion> anyone that have heard of my problem
[11:35] <phaedrus_>   fluxbuntu = the best!    i have xchat, vlc playing audio cd, bluefish, firefox and gaim all going smoothly right now on this machine!
[11:35] <phaedrus_> Computer: phaedrus-pii | Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 "dapper" | Processor: 334.14Mhz | Model: Pentium II (Deschutes) | Memory: 250MB Free: 84MB []  | Diskspace: 1.80GB Free: 0.67GB | Video: nVidia NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 28.27MB Up: 5.33MB
[11:35] <hairulfr> Anyone know anything about bluetooth?
[11:35] <godtvisken> adaptr: I need to edit that file manually, because the UUIDs changed
[11:35] <phaidros> phaedrus_, cool nick :)
[11:35] <bimberi> !uuid | godtvisken
[11:35] <phaedrus_> hehe
[11:35] <ubotu> godtvisken: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:35] <phaedrus_> thanks
[11:35] <fro> adaptr yes - gives me some error : http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz:
[11:35] <phaedrus_> u2
[11:36] <roho> phaedrus_: what command did you use there?
[11:36] <fro> Sub-process gzip returned
[11:36] <roho> that uber-uname?
[11:36] <phaedrus_> i used  /sysinfo
[11:36] <phaedrus_> its a python doodad
[11:36] <roho> cool
[11:36] <edion> anyone that can help me?
[11:36] <roho> for xchat i take it
[11:36] <phaidros> nice
[11:36] <phaedrus_> yah!
[11:36] <user-land> adaptr, in synaptic ?
[11:36] <adaptr> godtvisken: tune2fs
[11:36] <pianoboy3333> How can I record what's coming out of my speakers, so record my audio output?
[11:36] <phaidros> edion, keyboard works in console?
[11:36] <godtvisken> bimberi: thanks
[11:37] <adaptr> user-land: yes, install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel
[11:37] <phaedrus_> ok...back to work
[11:37] <edion> phaidros yes
[11:37] <phaidros> edion, notebook?
[11:37] <bimberi> godtvisken: yw :)
[11:37] <roho> i wish i could have an irc client with the look of xchat but with the functionality/command structure of bitchx
[11:37] <edion> phaidros no
[11:37] <phaidros> hm ..
[11:37] <phixna1> hey everyone, I try to build wine from source (I have edgy 64) but it says
[11:37] <phixna1> configure: WARNING: Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support
[11:37] <phixna1> configure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:
[11:37] <phixna1> configure: WARNING: No OpenGL development headers were found
[11:37] <phaidros> phixna1, try #wine
[11:37] <phixna1> thanks
[11:38] <phaidros> phixna1, wait
[11:38] <Bols> Hi - does someone know a way to recover all the gpg keys of my repositories, cause I lost them all and apt-get doesn't work anymore?
[11:38] <humbolto> how can I prohibit my xclient users from hibernating the server via gui which shows up on hitting logout which shows "hibernate and suspend"?
[11:38] <user-land> installed there are: linux-restricted-modules-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic, adaptr.
[11:38] <edion> phaidros i can let you ssh in to the box if you want to
[11:38] <bimberi> actually its #winehq
[11:38] <phixna1> phaidros: yeah, no one's in #wine
[11:38] <phixna1> thanks
[11:38] <adaptr> user-land: then you need to load it: sudo modprobe nvidia
[11:39] <roho> !pidentd
[11:39] <ubotu> pidentd: TCP/IP IDENT protocol server with DES support. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.19.ds1-1 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 140 kB
[11:39] <bimberi> Bols: try a 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:39] <phaidros> phixna1, try to find opengl related -dev packages in synaptic
[11:39] <shadowhywind> ok weridness, my login is fine (1680x1050) but when i log in it switches to 1024x768 any ideas?
[11:39] <hagabaka> could anyone confirm that in wine 0.9.29, locale specified in LANG (LANG=... wine program.exe) is ignored, while in 0.9.22, it is supported?
[11:39] <phaidros> phixnal, wine needs the opengl headers to compile
[11:39] <phaidros> edion, no time for that sorry
[11:39] <user-land> adaptr, that replies: Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:39] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to install Edgy (6.10) with a software RAID setup.  I used the Alternate install CD to partition both 2 drives and configure a software RAID.  First, I made /boot, /, and /home RAID0, and everything went along fine until the reboot part of the installation.  Upon reboot, the GRUB menu came up but it couldn't seem to find the kernel.  It said something about error 17 I think.
[11:40] <smartman> hi guys how are you
[11:40] <Bols> bimberi, already tried but it doesn't work... I get this: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com ...
[11:40] <phaidros> hi smartman
[11:40] <bimberi> Bols: put the whole message on a pastebin
[11:40] <unperson> I also went through the install again and tried making boot just a plain ext2 parition on one of the disks thinking that was the problem.  Still no dice.  This time the kernel seems to load but then it says it can't find /bin/sh.
[11:41] <runehunter> hey guys i just insalled ubuntu breezy on my box and during the install i used root as my name and at the loginscreen i cannot login to the system
[11:41] <edion> phaidros is there anyway that i can reset all settings and that way make it work again
[11:41] <unperson> Is it not possible to use a software RAID partition for /?
[11:41] <kritzstapf> hi, using windows xp to print on a samba-shared cups printer takes about 5 minutes, any ideas?
[11:42] <Bols> bimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2476/
[11:42] <phaidros> bimberi, go here http://l18a.de/~phaidros/apt/ and try mine
[11:42] <unperson> This page seemed to suggest it was: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[11:42] <phaidros> bimberi, put into /etc/apt/
[11:43] <phaidros> should work for edgy
[11:43] <adaptr> user-land: the howto explains all this; you have to edit xorg.conf first
[11:43] <bimberi> phaidros: you probably mean Bols :)
[11:43] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen & vserver ?
[11:43] <phaidros> bimberi, tre
[11:43] <phaidros> bimberi, true
[11:44] <phaidros> Bols,  go here http://l18a.de/~phaidros/apt/ and try mine
[11:44] <runehunter> hey guys i just insalled ubuntu breezy on my box and during the install i used root as my name and at the loginscreen i cannot login to the system
[11:44] <adaptr> unperson: raid-what ? mirroring is no problem
[11:44] <phaidros> should work for edgy
[11:44] <unperson> Er, sorry, I mean to say that the error given during boot is "/bin/sh: can't find tty"
[11:44] <phaidros> runehunter, why breezer?
[11:44] <unperson> adaptr, RAID0.
[11:44] <adaptr> unperson: you don't value your data very much ?
[11:44] <unperson> adaptr, The stuff on the root partition?  No.
[11:44] <phaidros> runehunter, can you log into terminal?
[11:45] <blueprints88888> anyone know a bit about VMware?
[11:45] <adaptr> you'll have to create a separate /boot partition
[11:45] <runehunter> phairros: im setting up a ruby on rails server and the tut i have is for breezy
[11:45] <unperson> adaptr, Up until now, reinstalling that has generally been a breeze.
[11:45] <zeembo> hi all
[11:45] <user-land> adaptr, i followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and editing xorg.conf is not mentioned there so far.
[11:45] <adaptr> user-land: that's odd - let me check
[11:45] <ikonia> user-land: is because it uses dpkg to enable the nvidia driver for you
[11:45] <phaidros> runehunter, .. nope .. go for an up-to-date distro .. breezer is not recommended anymore ..
[11:45] <user-land> only for removing the logotype.
[11:45] <ikonia> but it doesn't always work
[11:45] <zeembo> i'm trying to set up samba on ubuntu server and i can see my computer on the network, but cannot access it "no permission"
[11:45] <ikonia> this is covered in the wiki
[11:46] <phaidros> runehunter, should work analogue on dapper also ..
[11:46] <bimberi> Bols: I wouldn't load someone elses keys just yet.  I'm seeing if there's a way to regenerate them
[11:46] <edion> can i roleback drivers in ubuntu
[11:46] <unperson> adaptr, Right, so like I said,  went back and re-did the install using a plain old (non-RAID) ext2 partition for /boot.  That's when I got "/bin/sh: can't find tty"
[11:46] <runehunter> phairros: idk if i can when i was using the installer off the live cd for my name and stuff i used root but at the ubuntu loginscreen it says the admin cannot login, but i didn't setup another name to login with
[11:47] <adaptr> unperson: because the initrd is not mounting the raid0 root partition...
[11:47] <Bols> bimberi, ok ty.. I can always delete it if you find another way to regenerate them
[11:47] <phaidros> Bols, its just standard keys of ubuntu edgy plus some other repositories. open it with seahorse and choose the keys you need ..
[11:47] <phaidros> bols, or get the keys at the certain servers, they are there and you can import them using apt-key
[11:48] <Bols> phaidros, yes but I don't find them :/
[11:48] <user-land> adaptr, i used the wrong command line for edgy.
[11:48] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I can record my audio output with audacity? I want to record some of the tracks on http://www.davidgilmour.com/arnoldlayne/
[11:48] <adaptr> user-land: are you running Dapper ?
[11:48] <phaidros> for which repo?
[11:48] <user-land> thanks.
[11:48] <adaptr> user-land: I know
[11:48] <adaptr> you suck ! :)
[11:48] <unperson> adaptr, Yeah, that certainly sounds like what is happeneing.  Any idea how I fix this?
[11:49] <user-land> adaptr, can i update the instructions, it should fork before telling what line to use.
[11:49] <Bols> phaidros, thanks.. your file did the job, apt-get is working now ;)
[11:49] <phaidros> Bols, :) np
[11:50] <adaptr> user-land: why? it is very clear - just not too up-to-date, seeing as Edgy is the default version now
[11:50] <ImNotScrewedAnym> yay
[11:50] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen & vserver?
[11:50] <bimberi> Bols: hm, not much that I can find. Glad to see you're working though.
[11:50] <adaptr> unperson: your boot image needs to have the mdraid and any other drivers needed for raid0, and mdraid initialised, before mounting root
[11:50] <user-land> it should not say: type this without differentiating what version you run first, adaptr.
[11:50] <ImNotScrewedAnym> it is finally working correctly
[11:51] <cappiz> anyone knows if i can make ubuntu scan for hardware and setup the system like it does from the live cd installer?
[11:51] <llindy> I need the command pls to run a logitech cam, someone gave it to me b4, said that you have to run it every time you boot?
[11:51] <adaptr> user-land: the very next line after that clearly says: IF you are running Edgy, type this instead
[11:51] <cappiz> inside an ubuntu installation ?
[11:51] <ImNotScrewedAnym> how does one go about adding pages to ubotu?
[11:51] <bimberi> ImNotScrewedAnym: we could tell by your new nick ;)
[11:51] <user-land> yes, adaptr, it says it one line too late.
[11:51] <adaptr> user-land: anybody who cannot scan more than one line at a time really shouldn't be allowed to install an OS :)
[11:52] <adaptr> user-land: complain to the maintainers, though - not me
[11:52] <user-land> adaptr, step by step is not bad when dealing with computers.
[11:52] <bimberi> ImNotScrewedAnym: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots should have information
[11:52] <user-land> thanks, adaptr.
[11:52] <adaptr> user-land: that's not the only thing I find issue with - it says early on that you only need it when you want 3D hardware acceleration
[11:53] <godtvisken> Is there another way to the find the UUID of a drive without blkid? I cannot mount the drive (which blkid seems to require)
[11:53] <unperson> adaptr, I don't suppose you can suggest some places I might look up how to do that?
[11:53] <cappiz> anyone?
[11:53] <adaptr> user-land: and that is the worst sort of nonsense - the binary nvidia drivers also speed up your normal 2D desktop by about 300% *to start with*
[11:53] <ImNotScrewedAnym> bimberi  thanx... the guide I used should be added to him
[11:53] <Bols> bimberi, I tried this: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --allow-unauthenticated" but it didn't seem to work
[11:53] <adaptr> godtvisken: as I said before - tune2fs
[11:53] <phaidros> cappiz, dont understand what you want to do
[11:53] <adaptr> !mdraid | unperson
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <adaptr> shitty botty :)
[11:54] <cappiz> i installed my system via debootstrap, into a usb thumbdrive
[11:54] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen & vserver?
[11:54] <cappiz> and there is things im missing
[11:54] <adaptr> unperson: teh Intarweb, I'd say :) key words: mdraid, ubuntu, and raidtab
[11:54] <cappiz> wich the livecd installer would configure correctly for me.
[11:54] <user-land> wow, adaptr, unfortunately Canonical has a fixation with open source ...
[11:55] <cappiz> phaidros,  and i dont know what im missing.
[11:55] <adaptr> user-land: and ?
[11:55] <eternaljoy> can I installed ubuntu on my macbook?
[11:55] <user-land> so they don't want people to use the nvidia driver, adaptr ?
[11:55] <adaptr> user-land: they have no say in what I do or do not use
[11:55] <Dreamglider> how do i get a kernel that works with intel centrino duo ?
[11:55] <godtvisken> adaptr: but i don't want to change anything, just see what it already is
[11:56] <phaidros> cappiz, now i understood. i would recommend look into live-cd or knoppix, there is a script for that ..
[11:56] <Math^> hello, can someone help me installing vmware-server?
[11:56] <adaptr> user-land: all they can do is forbid the inclusion of restricted software in the stock install
[11:56] <ikonia> Math^: whats the problem
[11:56] <adaptr> godtvisken: what are you talking about ?
[11:56] <cappiz> phaidros,  what do you mean :) ?
[11:56] <Math^> the vmware-server installer says: there is an other one installed
[11:56] <ikonia> Math^: is there ?
[11:56] <edion> how do i reinstall unbuntu withoute instaling a newone beside the old one
[11:56] <ikonia> edion: what ?
[11:56] <phaidros> cappiz, or copy a live-cd image to the hdd, boot it use it and let it detect hardware at every boot ..
[11:56] <Math^> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:57] <phaidros> cappiz, or what is it you want to do?
[11:57] <Math^> but I removed all of it
[11:57] <godtvisken> adaptr: i just want to /see/ the UUID of a drive, not change it. reading the man for tune2fs, it seems that this is for changing things
[11:57] <ikonia> Math^: double check
[11:57] <adaptr> godtvisken: tune2fs -l /dev/hda1 | grep UUID <-- doesn't care if its mounted or not
[11:57] <edion> if i want to reinstall ubuntu can i just install it then or do i need to do somthing first
[11:57] <adaptr> godtvisken: do first, complain later
[11:57] <Jaymottz22> litheum: U here?
[11:57] <phaidros> Math^, apt-get remove  with --purge ?
[11:57] <ikonia> just install it to the same partition
[11:57] <edion> ok
[11:57] <Math^> ikonia, when I'm in synaptec and search for vmware, nothing is installed
[11:57] <phaidros> Math^, whats says locate VMWare or such?
[11:58] <gecko> hey.. none of my programs are showing up in system tray... how come?
[11:58] <cappiz> phaidros, i got a running system allready
[11:58] <ikonia> Math^: check it with dpkg -l | grep -i vmware
[11:58] <gecko> they worked yesterday
[11:58] <phaidros> Math^, don't trust synaptic too much ..
[11:58] <phaidros> cappiz, then boot a live-cd/knoppix and look how they do the hardware detection .. copy it for your needs :)
[11:58] <cappiz> on my usb thumbdrive, the thing now is that since the install didnt use the livecd hardware scanning utility... my system lacks something
[11:58] <gramaje> buenas noxes
[11:58] <phaidros> cappiz, must be a script in /etc/init.d/
[11:58] <Math^> ikonia, yes there is still something there
[11:59] <Math^> ikonia, how to remove it all
[11:59] <gramaje> alguien habla castellano?
[11:59] <cappiz> hum... bah :P
[11:59] <ikonia> Math^: very strange
[11:59] <Math^> ikonia, I already did: sudo apt-get remove --purge
[11:59] <adaptr> !english | gramaje
[11:59] <ubotu> gramaje: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:59] <ikonia> how did you install it before
[11:59] <cappiz> should have been easier :P
[11:59] <Math^> ikonia, I only installed the vmware-player before
[11:59] <gecko> any idea as to why none of my programs show up in the system tray?
[11:59] <ikonia> Math^: how did you install it before
[11:59] <Math^> ikonia, just sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[12:00] <cappiz> nah... phaidros its something on the live cd...
[12:00] <ikonia> Math^: for interest do "find / -name 'vmware*' -print
[12:00] <blade> can someone explain to me what exactly a usplash screen is...
[12:00] <phaidros> cappiz, of course /etc/init.d on the live-cd i meant ;)
[12:00] <cappiz> cause thats the one wich chose what to install on my syste,.
[12:00] <cappiz> ah ok :>
[12:00] <cappiz> hehe
[12:00] <cappiz> :P
[12:00] <cappiz> lol :P
[12:00] <Math^> ikonia, just a moment :)
[12:00] <godtvisken> adaptr: apparently that doesn't work with swap drives?