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| LaserJock | morning ogra | 09:02 |
| highvoltage | morning ogra | 09:03 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: :p | 09:03 |
| Burgundavia | hey ogra, LaserJock, highvoltage | 09:03 |
| highvoltage | hey Burgundavia and LaserJock | 09:03 |
| ogra | hi | 09:03 |
| ajmitch | hi ogra, LaserJock, highvoltage, Burgundavia | 09:03 |
| highvoltage | hi ajmitch :) | 09:03 |
| Burgundavia | hey ajmitch | 09:03 |
| willvdl | g'day Bruce | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | hey willvdl | 09:06 |
| willvdl | hey. good to see your name in the channels again | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | new gf keeping me busy | 09:07 |
| highvoltage | hey willvdl | 09:07 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, morning. Did any HPX guys contact you folks last week? | 09:08 |
| willvdl | Burgundavia, yeah, know that one. The travel is killing me :) | 09:09 |
| highvoltage | morning willvdl | 09:09 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: nope, I don't even know who HPX is | 09:09 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, your away message is on :) | 09:10 |
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| highvoltage | willvdl: technically, I am away ;) | 09:10 |
| willvdl | where are you? | 09:11 |
| highvoltage | at work | 09:11 |
| willvdl | Ah, I can see I'll have to choose my questions more carefully | 09:12 |
| highvoltage | edubuntugirl: IRC | 09:13 |
| edubuntugirl | highvoltage: excuse me? | 09:13 |
| highvoltage | edubuntugirl: IRC is evil | 09:13 |
| edubuntugirl | highvoltage: okay | 09:13 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: I try not to spend too much time on IRC at work, so I mark myself as away: at work, when at work | 09:13 |
| willvdl | you read Catch-22 yet? "Major Major is out so you may go in", "But when will he be back in", " as soon as you are out" | 09:14 |
| Burgundavia | I am trying an experiment: not use IRC at work | 09:15 |
| Burgundavia | I have found am just as productive either way, so expect to see me on IRC again next week at work | 09:15 |
| highvoltage | I've found a sharp increase in productivity when I am not in certain channels. | 09:20 |
| highvoltage | my local LUG channel is the biggest culprit. | 09:20 |
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| zelk | greetings anyone around? | 09:26 |
| Burgundavia | nope | 09:26 |
| Burgundavia | :) | 09:26 |
| zelk | ah hello | 09:27 |
| Burgundavia | what can we help you with? | 09:27 |
| zelk | i was wondering about edubuntu | 09:27 |
| Burgundavia | we might just be able to answer questions about that here | 09:28 |
| zelk | can the os be installed and boot from a flash drive | 09:28 |
| Burgundavia | yes, although it takes a bit of work | 09:28 |
| zelk | dont mind the extra work part | 09:29 |
| zelk | any link to the tutorial? | 09:30 |
| Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 09:30 |
| Burgundavia | although I cannot guarantee that is going to work | 09:30 |
| zelk | currently planning to install edubuntu for a kindergarden but payment is horrible and they are fussy T_T | 09:31 |
| Burgundavia | right | 09:32 |
| Burgundavia | you going to install a thin client server or just a workstation | 09:32 |
| Burgundavia | because you are doing the former, I would be really worries about RAM usage | 09:32 |
| zelk | we provided old pc's with win98 but...they some how manage to kill something every month | 09:33 |
| zelk | looking at thin client cheaper | 09:33 |
| Burgundavia | ok, for that you want a dedicated server | 09:33 |
| Burgundavia | how many thin clients? | 09:33 |
| zelk | 4-5 maybe less | 09:34 |
| Burgundavia | highvoltage: what is the latest recommendation for RAM per thin client? | 09:35 |
| zelk | if i remember reading correctly recomended 256 per extra client | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | yep, that is about right | 09:37 |
| zelk | wahaha it is abit of work | 09:39 |
| Burgundavia | seriously, usb stuff like that is really only for moving from computer to computer | 09:39 |
| Burgundavia | why exactly do you need to have it on a usb stick? | 09:39 |
| zelk | btw the new edubuntu flash drive can be reused as a normal flash drive again or is it permenant | 09:40 |
| Burgundavia | it could be reformatted again | 09:40 |
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| zelk | usb stick cheaper then a 80gb hdd | 09:42 |
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| Burgundavia | yes, but far less reliable and much slower | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | hey cbx33 | 09:43 |
| zelk | plus they have "magic" fingers i have no idea how they manage to kill a piece of hardware every month | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | in which case you can put the server out of reach | 09:43 |
| cbx33 | hey Burgundavia | 09:44 |
| zelk | one..sugestion is that their roof leaks and water drips on to the pc... | 09:44 |
| zelk | a few monitors had a wet death T_T | 09:44 |
| zelk | as long as minimum hardware is needed all is good. | 09:46 |
| zelk | they refuse to pay for damages, and have at least 6 months of unpaid pc rentals | 09:46 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 09:47 |
| zelk | very | 09:47 |
| ogra | its only 128MB per client and a base of 256M for the server itself | 09:48 |
| zelk | plus the kinder is about 20miles from shop =Z | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | ogra TCM is moving forward | 09:48 |
| ogra | cbx33, great | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | almost completed multiple server part of spec | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | will need some help from you though | 09:48 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33: you rock | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | tiled VNC is working | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | am thinking about writing my own small vnc server for feisty + 1 | 09:48 |
| ogra | can we do that next week ? i'm a bit busy with the sprint this week | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | of course | 09:49 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33: why not fix up vino? | 09:49 |
| zelk | ok thanks burgun | 09:49 |
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| cbx33 | i may do | 09:49 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 09:49 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, hwo do you embed vino in another app so that you have tiled overview of the classroom ? | 09:49 |
| Burgundavia | zelk: no worries. seriously though, flash drives are not the way to go | 09:49 |
| zelk | i need to go out to deliver some keyboards now | 09:49 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: hmm, no idea | 09:50 |
| cbx33 | well ,my plane was to write a very very small server | 09:50 |
| Burgundavia | however, I mention it because it exists and why write it all again | 09:50 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, raping vino for something its not supposed to do doesnt sound right | 09:50 |
| cbx33 | that take a screen shot every 3 seconds or so, and is not interactive | 09:50 |
| zelk | sorry for joining and running like this | 09:50 |
| cbx33 | maybe by piping xwd or something.... | 09:50 |
| cbx33 | unfortunately python can't get screenshots nicely | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | why isn't vnc built directly into X? | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | so I may have to write it in C | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | x11vnx | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | x11vnc works fine | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | but...the bandwidth is high | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | if I write a new server for it, we could view 20 tiled screens allat once | 09:51 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, dunno, why didnt you patch X ? | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | then switch to vnc for the teacher to control | 09:52 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: are you working on the latest edition of the official ubuntu book? | 09:52 |
| Burgundavia | sort of | 09:52 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: I will get right on that :) | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: can I ask some advice? | 09:53 |
| Burgundavia | shoot | 09:53 |
| ogra | great, ping me tomorrow if you're done | 09:53 |
| Burgundavia | sweet | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | Edubuntu has a lot of features that aren't confimred for feisty just yet | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | but the latest book release is supposed to be based on feisty | 09:54 |
| cbx33 | initial draft is meant to be in by 8th Feb | 09:54 |
| Burgundavia | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-January/021119.html <-- this was the thread that starting my thinking, ogra | 09:54 |
| Burgundavia | I am merely going to be technical editor this time | 09:54 |
| ogra | thats not true for ubuntu | 09:55 |
| ogra | the vnc shipped in main gets always compiled against the X libs we ship | 09:55 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: ok, but what do you suggest? | 09:56 |
| Burgundavia | for the edubuntu chapter? | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | how should I handle it... | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | I've started | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | and written a big big chuck already | 09:57 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 09:57 |
| Burgundavia | well, you pick ogra's brain here | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | we also have the problem that ltsp for example has changed significantly from dapper | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | ok | 09:57 |
| Burgundavia | given he is the primary driver of new things | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | ogra is there any chance I can grab you on this? | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | did you get my mail? | 09:57 |
| Burgundavia | you say "ogra: how much crack are you going to get done for Feisty?" | 09:58 |
| cbx33 | I have TCM and this chapter to do...trouble is they are kinda interrelated | 09:58 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 09:58 |
| Burgundavia | and then you say "me: how much crack am I going to get done for Feisty", as you appear to be driving that development | 09:58 |
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| ajmitch | jsgotangco! | 09:58 |
| cbx33 | ogra I'll try to have as much of TCM done for early next week, then we can check it though and get it ready after FF | 09:58 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33: is SCP now TCM? | 09:59 |
| jsgotangco | heh they want the laptops away | 09:59 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: yes | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | Thin Client Manager | 09:59 |
| Burgundavia | ah, cool | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | and it's looking sweet | 10:00 |
| Burgundavia | got any screenshots? | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | oh ogra I got a reply from the guys at RedHat, they said great we're using their code, and that it came from pyvnc2swf mostly anyway... | 10:00 |
| Burgundavia | you need to blog about the cool things, to make people drool | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: yeh, lemme fire it up and get it running some vnc sessions | 10:00 |
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| Burgundavia | funnily enough, I am busy debating how to convince my boss that the new offices needs shiny new LTSP-running thin clients, instead of our own custom multiseat stuff | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 10:02 |
| Burgundavia | primarily I want less management headaches | 10:03 |
| highvoltage | Burgundavia: depending on how many clients there are, userful might actually be a good solution? | 10:03 |
| Burgundavia | multiseat requires close distances | 10:03 |
| highvoltage | that's what I was thinking | 10:04 |
| Burgundavia | basically unsuitable for single offices | 10:04 |
| Burgundavia | we only get away with it because we currently have cubicles in larger rooms | 10:04 |
| highvoltage | if it's up to about 6-8 workstations very close to each other, then it's not so bad | 10:04 |
| Burgundavia | plus multiseast is crashy as hell (although not as crashy as the in-X stuff) and breaks a lot of things, like sound and openGL | 10:05 |
| highvoltage | but anything more than that and I'd rather be using diskless machines | 10:05 |
| highvoltage | really? wow. | 10:05 |
| highvoltage | on the HP 441-style machines GL and sound works fine. | 10:05 |
| Burgundavia | that is dedicated hardware with dedicated software | 10:05 |
| Burgundavia | we have multiseat sound working, sort of | 10:05 |
| Burgundavia | our device assignment code is utter junk | 10:06 |
| highvoltage | they should make userful free software ;) | 10:06 |
| Burgundavia | desktop multiplier is the actual product name and yes | 10:06 |
| highvoltage | ah yes | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: just getting the screenshot now ;) | 10:12 |
| cbx33 | had to fix a bug first | 10:12 |
| cbx33 | but then I hadn't tested my integration code in 2 days | 10:12 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 10:12 |
| Burgundavia | been playing a bit with http://ebox-platform.com/ | 10:14 |
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| cbx33 | Burgundavia: see my blog ;) | 10:20 |
| cbx33 | there is now a screenshot | 10:20 |
| cbx33 | man this irc is laggy | 10:20 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 10:21 |
| Burgundavia | you are splitting out the backend from the front end, no? | 10:23 |
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| cbx33 | yup | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | already done | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | and the backend program to integrate over ssh for multiple server control is also....largely done | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | all in about a week | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | I've been busy | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | SCP -> TCM has grown in code by about double, possibly tripple in this release | 10:34 |
| Amaranth | cbx33: you know pixbuf's can be resized, right? | 10:40 |
| Amaranth | (reading blog) | 10:40 |
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| cbx33 | Amaranth: no i didn't :p | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | i did look | 10:57 |
| Amaranth | gtk.gdk.Pixbuf.scale_simple | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | is it quick? | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | ahhh cool | 10:58 |
| cbx33 | I'll give that a go | 10:58 |
| cbx33 | gimme two ticks | 10:58 |
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| cbx33 | Amaranth: you gem | 11:04 |
| cbx33 | that's loads quicker...I looked for that too | 11:04 |
| cbx33 | crap now I look like an idiot | 11:04 |
| Amaranth | :) | 11:04 |
| cbx33 | just need someone in the know I guess | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | man CPU bandwidth is minimal | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 11:05 |
| cbx33 | CRIKEY | 11:06 |
| Amaranth | ? | 11:06 |
| cbx33 | I can run the screenshots on Hyper now | 11:06 |
| Amaranth | heh | 11:06 |
| cbx33 | they are SOOOO Smooth | 11:06 |
| cbx33 | Amaranth: I'm blogging about you right now | 11:06 |
| Amaranth | PIL is pure python, isn't it? | 11:06 |
| cbx33 | yes | 11:06 |
| cbx33 | but in futre to do image resizing, it maybe quick to convert to pixbuf and do it that way | 11:07 |
| Amaranth | yeah, python's not good at those kinds of things :) | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | you may have just solved a problem I had | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | phimage ;) | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | resizing on that was DOG slow | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | now it may be able to run real time | 11:07 |
| Amaranth | the real problem with all this should be network bandwidth | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | yes | 11:07 |
| cbx33 | which is why I'm thinking of wirint a very simple vnc type server for feisty + 1 | 11:08 |
| Amaranth | if you hit a bottleneck anywhere other than the network you're doing something wrong :) | 11:08 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 11:08 |
| cbx33 | indeed | 11:08 |
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| ajmitch | cbx33: impressive work from your blog | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | thanks ajmitch, Amaranth just made it a whole lot better | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | I think I'm going to edit the blog entry....or add a new one ;) | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia: you were right...heheh...Ishould have blogged about it ;) | 11:11 |
| Amaranth | you do all the work, i jump in with the quick fix ;) | 11:13 |
| cbx33 | it is an awesome fix | 11:14 |
| cbx33 | please await...new blog entry pending.... | 11:14 |
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| ajmitch | how I wish I could have my dual-monitor setup at work | 11:17 |
| ajmitch | (and use python there) | 11:17 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 11:17 |
| cbx33 | how I wish I had a new job | 11:17 |
| cbx33 | and didn't have to administer windows boxen | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:18 |
| === ajmitch has to write php, and admin a couple of linux servers | ||
| cbx33 | yuk....I used to love php | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | then I started using python | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | this job is sapping me | 11:22 |
| cbx33 | I need to do dev work | 11:22 |
| cbx33 | I love dek work | 11:22 |
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| cbx33 | *dev | 11:22 |
| rodarvus | hi there | 11:23 |
| ajmitch | hi rodarvus | 11:24 |
| cbx33 | hey rodarvus | 11:24 |
| ajmitch | oh good, each module can draw its own UI in the container given now, this should make things easier for me | 11:28 |
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| cbx33 | sounds complicated ajmitch | 11:48 |
| ajmitch | not particularly | 11:49 |
| ajmitch | the wonders of python & gtk+ | 11:49 |
| ajmitch | I'm not using glade, so in a way it's easier | 11:50 |
| cbx33 | ahh | 11:52 |
| cbx33 | well....I'm just having a quick look at phimage | 11:53 |
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| cbx33 | the pixbuf resize is a damn sight quicker but it can't reliable produce a format that openGL can use | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | you need opengl? | 11:54 |
| cbx33 | not for TCM | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | ok | 11:55 |
| cbx33 | for another project I'm working on | 11:55 |
| cbx33 | on the side | 11:55 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | I was going to say, you could just do the resize in opengl | 11:55 |
| cbx33 | hmm | 11:56 |
| cbx33 | again quite possibly | 11:56 |
| === cbx33 is still new at all this graphics stuff | ||
| === ajmitch also :) | ||
| cbx33 | how can you resize in opengl? | 11:56 |
| cbx33 | my problem is textures have to be n^2xm^2 | 11:56 |
| cbx33 | if you get my drift | 11:56 |
| cbx33 | I was resizing with PIL | 11:56 |
| cbx33 | but that's DOG SLOW | 11:57 |
| cbx33 | so when Amaranth showed me howmuch quicker a pixbuf.scale_simple was | 11:57 |
| cbx33 | i wondered if I could use a pixbuf to store the image.... | 11:57 |
| cbx33 | trouble is using the get_pixels method doesn't give the right format for use with openGL textureing | 11:57 |
| cbx33 | it needs to be RGBX | 11:58 |
| cbx33 | some images load....but display funny | 11:58 |
| cbx33 | one image loads ok but is flipped | 11:58 |
| cbx33 | and about 80 others just kill opengl | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | odd | 12:00 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 12:00 |
| cbx33 | but I just don't have time to fix it... :( was trying to get it in for feisty | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | best to get things working now | 12:02 |
| cbx33 | well i would if I could | 12:03 |
| cbx33 | ok, it can use bmps | 12:04 |
| cbx33 | so it must be a format thing | 12:04 |
| cbx33 | hmmm getting closer | 12:08 |
| cbx33 | but still doesn't like jpg of png | 12:08 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 12:11 |
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| cbx33 | ajmitch: partial success | 12:20 |
| cbx33 | the images are still screwed up, but at least it's reading in all the images now | 12:20 |
| cbx33 | they're just in the wrong format | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | great | 12:20 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 12:20 |
| cbx33 | nevermind | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | back to real work | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | :( | 12:21 |
| === ajmitch should get to bed so he can do real work in the morning | ||
| cbx33 | i think I'll be getting upat 5:30 in the morning again tomorrow | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | ouch | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | so I can get TCM finished | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | why the rush? | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | going to bed at about 12 -1 | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | well it's gotta be largely done by Feb 8th | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | FF date | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | it still has a long way to go? | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | well... | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | tbph I'm not sure what state it needs to be in for FF | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | mostly there | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | the vnc works | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | needs a little tweaking | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | it should be feature complete & not too buggy | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | um...backend system works... | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | exactly | 12:22 |
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| cbx33 | I'm scared I'm not gonna get it into that state | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | as I'm also writing the Edubuntu chapter for the official ubuntu book | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | and that has a deadline of Feb 8th too :p | 12:23 |
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| ajmitch | ouch | 12:24 |
| ajmitch | good luck :) | 12:24 |
| cbx33 | indeed | 12:24 |
| cbx33 | it's gonna be tough | 12:24 |
| cbx33 | really tough | 12:24 |
| Amaranth | ack, that's the 8th? | 12:38 |
| Amaranth | i thought it was the 20th | 12:38 |
| cbx33 | yeh me too | 12:38 |
| cbx33 | well I hoped at least | 12:40 |
| cbx33 | ogra thought it was later too ;) | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | sleep time, I can worry about code in the morning :) | 12:41 |
| cbx33 | nn ajmitch | 12:41 |
| highvoltage | goodnight ajmitch | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | ping ogra_ | 12:58 |
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| Ram_ | hi all... does anyone of a website that lists edubuntu-based projects geared to primary education? | 01:22 |
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| willvdl | highvoltage, can you check what my username is for edubuntu.org drupal site? :P | 02:09 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: ok | 02:12 |
| willvdl | ah, got it somehow | 02:13 |
| willvdl | weird. | 02:13 |
| ogra_ | YAY | 02:14 |
| ogra_ | volume control on thin clients works ! | 02:14 |
| willvdl | ogra_, +++ | 02:14 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: ok :) I just got it | 02:14 |
| highvoltage | edubuntugirl: ogra++ | 02:15 |
| ogra_ | now to the input devices .... | 02:16 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, had a long chat with pips1 on Friday | 02:20 |
| willvdl | about what info should be in Drupal site and what in wiki | 02:20 |
| willvdl | he reckons, apart from the front page, that we should put as much as possible in the wiki | 02:20 |
| willvdl | what you think? | 02:20 |
| highvoltage | wiki is good | 02:22 |
| highvoltage | it means that more people can edit it | 02:22 |
| highvoltage | I read most of the conversation from friday, but only afterwards | 02:22 |
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| willvdl | ah. did I leave it in the channel? | 02:32 |
| willvdl | cool, anyway, Matt Nuzum want sto move ubuntu.com over to drupal somewhere mid-march I think | 02:33 |
| willvdl | so I jsut want to check with him what kinds of info he wants in ubuntu.com and then we should look close at copying him I guess | 02:33 |
| kihai | Hi y'all! Anyone has an idea on how I can get the current cpu time of certain running processes? I want to write a cron script that will check regularly for the cpu time of the Xorg process on my Ltsp clients, and when it's >=95% I want to kill the process. But how can I read out the cpu time of processes with ps???? | 02:34 |
| highvoltage | HAHA! | 02:36 |
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| willvdl | instead of killing it, have you considered changing its priority? | 02:36 |
| willvdl | maybe renicing it? | 02:36 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: there were lots of objection against drupal for edubuntu.org | 02:36 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: I'm quite surprised to see that it will be used for ubuntu.com | 02:37 |
| cbx33 | ping ogra_ | 02:37 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, yeah. I image it is really just for keeping the static pages (front page), news tickers, download mirrors page (which is dynamic) and release notes or something | 02:37 |
| willvdl | I read all of Phillips planning pages for drupal | 02:38 |
| willvdl | silly question, but does the edubuntu council have an LP presence? | 02:39 |
| kihai | willvdl: Hmm, I'll give it a try, havent tested it so far... | 02:40 |
| willvdl | kihai, processes can be cpu intensive. As long as they are not hogging the cpu from other key processes I wouldn't really worry about it | 02:41 |
| willvdl | well, meaning I wouldn't kill it. | 02:41 |
| kihai | Maybe someone knows what could cause this prob. It's a Edgy Eft Server and when clients log off, sometimes the Xorg process hangs. Any ideas on what settings I could change to fix this? | 02:41 |
| kihai | willvdl: The problem is, that if the Xorg process is over 95%, the client hangs. | 02:43 |
| kihai | Ah, and Xorg restarts itself automatically when it's killed, so no worries there | 02:43 |
| willvdl | how have you verified this? | 02:43 |
| willvdl | it might be a combination of cpu usage, memory and network load. I doubt it is as simple as just a hungry process | 02:45 |
| kihai | When the client logs out, the screen goes grey, mouse and keyboard aren't reacting anymore and when I log on the hanging client with ssh then top shows me the Xorg process with >=95%. If I kill it, it restarts itself and the client is showing a new login screen. | 02:45 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: the edubuntu council is the administrators on the edubuntu-members page | 02:45 |
| willvdl | ah. good point | 02:46 |
| willvdl | ws looking at http://www.edubuntu.org/news/3. might need to adjust or simply move discussion page to wiki | 02:47 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage: did we do a fridge story on edubuntu and BETT? | 02:52 |
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| willvdl | highvoltage, is it as sweltering hot there as it is here? My potplants just caught alight... | 02:56 |
| juliux | hi all | 02:57 |
| willvdl | hey | 03:04 |
| juliux | !seen Riched | 03:06 |
| ubotu | I haven't seen riched recently | 03:06 |
| juliux | hm | 03:06 |
| willvdl | juliux, he's recovering from travels | 03:06 |
| willvdl | will be back tomorrow | 03:06 |
| juliux | willvdl, so he will be online in the next days? | 03:06 |
| willvdl | yes. just feeling under the weather | 03:06 |
| willvdl | !seen RichEd | 03:07 |
| ubotu | I haven't seen riched recently | 03:07 |
| juliux | willvdl, thxs | 03:07 |
| willvdl | hmmm, does ubotu care about case? | 03:07 |
| juliux | we will have a local edubuntu weekend in februar | 03:07 |
| juliux | and riched means that perhaps he will be in europe in feb | 03:08 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: no, thanks for the reminder, it went under the radar somehow, we should still put it up | 03:12 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: I've been in the office all day so I don't know what the temperature is outside | 03:12 |
| willvdl | don't go. wait till dark then walk slowly | 03:12 |
| juliux | highvoltage, ask wetter.com;) | 03:13 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: ok :) | 03:14 |
| highvoltage | juliux: according to my gnome weather applet it's just 27C outside | 03:14 |
| highvoltage | it was 33C on Saturday | 03:14 |
| willvdl | berg wind. | 03:14 |
| juliux | highvoltage, here we have 5C and a strong wind | 03:15 |
| willvdl | anbient temp is low but wind factor....eish | 03:15 |
| highvoltage | I'm not complaining though. our winter was way too cold and long. | 03:15 |
| highvoltage | juliux: ouch. when I say 'way too cold' I mean the coldest it got was about 7C | 03:15 |
| juliux | highvoltage, the coldest in januar was -7C in the morning | 03:16 |
| highvoltage | shew | 03:16 |
| juliux | highvoltage, last winter the coldest was -21C | 03:17 |
| juliux | highvoltage, -21C in the morning and -18 during the day | 03:17 |
| highvoltage | I've never felt - degrees before | 03:18 |
| juliux | come to germany;) | 03:19 |
| juliux | but not this winter | 03:19 |
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| willvdl | ogra_, where do you want release announcements to live? wiki and then ported into docbook? | 03:20 |
| ogra_ | why docbook ? | 03:21 |
| === ogra_ still doesnt understand why they have to be anywhere else | ||
| juliux | hey ogra_ | 03:22 |
| juliux | ogra_, if you are back in germany i have something to play for you;9 | 03:22 |
| ogra_ | nice ! | 03:23 |
| juliux | ogra_, we get two thinclients from transtec an a minicomputer for the expos | 03:23 |
| ogra_ | willvdl, i think wiki suffices ... but if you like them in docbook, feel free | 03:23 |
| ogra_ | juliux, cool | 03:23 |
| juliux | ogra_, but if we don't need them on expos we can use them for testing, | 03:23 |
| ogra_ | good | 03:24 |
| cbx33 | ogra_: I'm practically done on TCM | 03:24 |
| juliux | ogra_, so i think i will send you one transtec thinclient after cebit if you want | 03:24 |
| cbx33 | just the filtering to do | 03:24 |
| juliux | ogra_, http://www.transtec.de/D/D/products/ServerBasedComputing/transtecMYLO500.htm | 03:24 |
| cbx33 | and I got a bit confused over one thing so I'll be emailing you | 03:24 |
| cbx33 | I expect to have....dare I say it....everything on the spec list, bar the applet for assistance done | 03:25 |
| ogra_ | cbx33, can you move the "kill process" button into the processes tab ? | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | sure | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | gui updates are easy | 03:25 |
| ogra_ | and a placeholder pic for the tiles would also be nice | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | there is a bug or two in the vnc code | 03:25 |
| ogra_ | apart from that .... -> AWESOME !!!! | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | ogra_: of course | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | dude it works | 03:25 |
| ogra_ | !!! | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | and smoothly ;) | 03:25 |
| ogra_ | cool | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | I'm a little confused about the multiple backend | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | but | 03:25 |
| cbx33 | best thing is for me to send you a link to what I've done | 03:26 |
| ogra_ | now lets wait for the feedback from the 50 client setups :P | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | so you can see it | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | when you get back from sprint | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | is that fair? | 03:26 |
| ogra_ | yep | 03:26 |
| ogra_ | i saw the screenshot already | 03:26 |
| ogra_ | yeah, indeed | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 03:26 |
| ogra_ | i'll get to it sunday evening ... | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | just need you to take a look at some of the ssh workings | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | ok | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | that should then give me enogh time to write the book chapter about it ;) | 03:26 |
| cbx33 | I know pretty much what's gonna be in now | 03:27 |
| willvdl | ogra_, docbook really just for archive purposes, ubiquity etc. but I agree with you. Anyway, main reason is that I'm updating wiki to have release announcements in central place | 03:27 |
| cbx33 | it's just sorting and tarting till the 8th | 03:27 |
| ogra_ | willvdl, proceed as you like .... i totally trust your judgement | 03:27 |
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| willvdl | ogra_, do we still do release notes as well as release announcement? | 03:48 |
| ogra_ | i think yes ... as long as we have enough to say in them .... | 03:48 |
| ogra_ | if all new features easily fit into the announcement we probably dont need them | 03:48 |
| willvdl | gotcha | 03:49 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:56 |
| willvdl | OK, moved our old Breezy Release notes to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBadger | 04:11 |
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| cbx33 | Amaranth: thanks again | 04:34 |
| cbx33 | i kinda got it working on phimage too | 04:34 |
| cbx33 | but there are some pixel format issues to deal with | 04:34 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 04:34 |
| Amaranth | saw the blog :) | 04:34 |
| Amaranth | you're welcome | 04:34 |
| cbx33 | howz willow coming along | 04:34 |
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| cbx33 | IF i get everything else done and you need a hand...jsut shout | 04:38 |
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| paolob | Hi guys! The hd of my edubuntu server failed, thanks God I had a backup made with backuppc. I restored all (I think so, but I could have forgot something) the hd, but the clients doesn't boot, or, better, they arrive to a " authenticated mount request from 10.0.1.217:906 for /opt/ltsp/i386 ". Any hint? what should I do? | 07:49 |
| highvoltage | edubuntugirl: tell cbx33 TCM is looking very nice, judging by the screenshots | 07:51 |
| edubuntugirl | Righto, highvoltage! | 07:51 |
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| g333k_work | hi does edubuntu 6.06 comes with ltsp 4.2? | 10:29 |
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| Burgwork | g333k_work: 6.06 comes with a new version of LTSP, which is now ltsp 5 | 11:01 |
| Burgwork | thus, no | 11:01 |
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| paolob-parroquia | Hi guys! I had a hd failure, and I had to restore the hd to a new one from a backuppc backup. I restored all (I think...), but the client can't boot well, they only arrive at asking an IP. Any idea what do I lack or miss? thank you! | 11:19 |
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