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Odd_BlokeIs it possible to upload a repo (to be hosted) without creating an associated product?12:26
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LarstiQOdd_Bloke: you can upload to ~user/+junk/branch12:28
UbugtuNew bug: #80902 in malone "Allow bug retargeting from product to distribution, or vice versa" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8090212:30
Odd_BlokeLarstiQ: Cheers.12:31
kiko-afkOdd_Bloke, I think the answer to that question is yes. have you seen http://ddaa.net/blog/12:31
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LarstiQreally ciao kiko12:33
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mptbother02:34
LarstiQyes?02:34
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mptI need code that hasn't been merged yet02:36
mptlifeless, any ETA for merging rocketfuel/launchpad/devel into rocketfuel/launchpad/ui-one-zero?02:40
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somerville32somerville32@serenity:~/code/xubuntu-default-settings.main$ bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/05:17
somerville32Permission denied (publickey).05:17
somerville32bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; 05:17
somerville32Is there any reason why I'd get that error.05:17
somerville32s/./?05:17
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LaserJocksomerville32: I don't really know but are you sure your ssh key is the same as on LP and you are a member of xubuntu-team?05:25
somerville3295% :)05:25
somerville32I can push my other branch05:26
somerville32I'm so stupid05:27
somerville32I forgot to have the cody-somerville@ in front05:27
somerville32since my local username is different05:27
LaserJock;-)05:28
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carlosmorning!08:47
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=== ..[topic/#launchpad:matthewrevell] : Developer meeting: Thu 25 Jan 2007, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
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sabdflhi folks09:55
sabdflthe lp-dependencies packages need a tweak for feisty09:56
sabdflthere are newer versions of some of the library dependencies09:56
sabdfllike libapr109:56
sabdflwho's on top of that?09:56
lifelessEtienne is maintaining that package. 09:58
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UbugtuNew bug: #80951 in malone "no search results for "uml_switch"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8095111:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #79035 in malone "Product/distribution Bugs pages need count of open bugs fixed elsewhere" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7903511:30
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mptSteveA, when I wake up, may I merge rocketfuel/launchpad/devel into rocketfuel/launchpad/ui-one-zero manually and send to PQM?12:06
mpt(I need some code that's in the former but not the latter)12:07
carloslifeless: pochu just asked me whether karma is being updated, he thinks it's not changing in last three days or so12:08
carloslifeless: could you check it?12:08
SteveAmpt: no12:10
SteveAmpt: that will quite possibly merge database code onto the UI branch that isn't yet in production12:10
SteveAmpt: https://launchpad.canonical.com/LaunchpadProductionStatus12:11
SteveAwe're at 437712:11
SteveAit is possible to add more recent revisions, provided that there are no database changes in there12:12
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xdatapgood morning12:26
xdatapmatthewrevell: ping12:26
matthewrevellxdatap: Hi12:26
xdatapmatthewrevell: hi12:26
xdatapmatthewrevell: seems the karma calculation doesn't worked from 17-1 until today. i hope this information may be useful12:27
pochuxdatap: yes, i noticed that12:29
pochu:)12:29
matthewrevellxdatap: Thanks for letting me know. So, your karma total hasn't updated in that time, even though you've done work in Launchpad?12:29
xdatapmatthewrevell: yes12:29
matthewrevellxdatap, pochu: I'm sorry your karma hasn't updated. We have noticed that there is a problem with karma calculation. One of the team is looking at it and we hope to have it fixed in the next couple of days.12:33
pochuno problem12:34
pochu:)12:34
xdatapmatthewrevell: ok, no problem.12:34
pochujust i wanted you noticed it12:34
pochuif you didn't12:34
matthewrevellxdatap, pochu: Thanks for letting us know :) I'm sorry that it's not working at the moment. It's always best to let us know if things aren't working as they should :)12:35
xdatapmatthewrevell: next time i see a problem like this do you prefer a bug report or join this chan?12:35
pochugood question12:35
pochu:)12:35
matthewrevellxdatap: You can always speak to me here. However, if you look for a bug you can add your own comments or see if it's being worked on.12:35
xdatapok12:36
xdatapgood, i have to go12:36
xdatapgood work to everyone12:36
xdatapbye12:36
pochubye xdatap12:36
xdatapbye pochu, matthewrevell12:36
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cprovgood morning !12:48
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kikomorning01:05
Hobbseehey kiko 01:10
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kikohey Hobbsee 01:44
kikostub!01:44
Hobbsee:)01:44
stubYo01:45
kikostub, can you help us find out why nightly is not producing error output on gangotri?01:45
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staticgood morning launchpad01:46
stubMaybe not completing01:46
kikostub, could be -- been happening since the 18th01:47
kikomorning static 01:47
alefterishello everyone? how can a product, that has the .po available at http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gcompris be setup to use rosseta?01:47
stubNeed someone with access to have a look. I'm only attached by wet string so not much use.01:48
carlosalefteris: are you a gcompris developer?01:49
alefterisnop01:49
carlosThem first step is that they should want to offer Rosetta as a way to translate it01:49
carlosalefteris: also, for GNOME modules, we have the extra restriction that you should be an active member of the GTP01:50
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carlosso we don't conflict with them01:50
seb128hi carlos01:50
seb128carlos: feisty is opened on rosetta now?01:51
alefterisSo what i should do? contact the product Registrant and wait for him to import it?01:51
alefterisor contact the developers?01:51
carlosalefteris: if you want to translate it for Ubuntu, you can do it at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gcompris/+pots/gcompris (but coordinate with GTP is still a good idea)01:51
carlosseb128: no, for some reason, testing process took 29 hours instead of 3 hours as Edgy took01:52
seb128:(01:52
carlosseb128: and Stuart is on vacations this week, so it will happen after the sprint (next week) in the mean time I'm going to see what's going on there01:52
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seb128ok01:53
carlosalefteris: if you want to translate outside Ubuntu, you can go ahead and ask the developers01:53
seb128maybe one day we will have a version of Ubuntu that can be translated before GNOME freeze01:53
alefterisok thank you01:54
kikostub, your answer to my message doesn't help me very much. the fact is that the bug watch updater is failing. is that because /asuka/ is the one failing to do outgoing HTTPS?01:56
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stubIt is failing? The bug watch updater is running on gangotri (production) and asuka (staging). 02:03
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zygahello (if this is a FQA feel free to flame me but I could not find it on lp): what is the policy of syncing published branches?02:06
kikostub, yes, it is failing because outgoing HTTPS is not going through. I realize my message was a bit misdirected, but you could have read between the lines..02:07
zygain other words: how does launchpad decide when to pull from synced branches?02:07
kikostub, it's also failing on gangotri02:07
zygas/synced/hosted/02:07
kikozyga, that's a FAQ and a question for ddaa (doh, where is he) and matthewrevell 02:07
zygamatthewrevell: ^ if that is in the FAQ please point me to it because: https://launchpad.net/faq certainly lacks information on this topic02:09
kikommmm02:10
kikolifeless?02:10
kikozyga, let me try and find somebody who knows the answer02:10
zygathanks02:11
niemeyerstub!02:11
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niemeyerstub: What a great vacation :-)02:11
niemeyerWow02:12
niemeyer:-)02:12
kikowell thanks for scaring him off02:13
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LarstiQzyga: the http mirror of a hosted branch should be updated ~10 minutes after you pushed to sftp02:15
niemeyerWell.. he was right to be scared.. my next sentence would be a question02:15
zygaLarstiQ: ahh, so there is a sftp version of http02:16
zygacool, that's what I was looking for02:16
LarstiQzyga: yes, sftp being the master02:16
zygaI thought that launchpad pulls/merges 02:16
zygainstead of me pushing02:16
ddaahello02:16
ddaazyga: yes it does, and yes you do02:17
LarstiQzyga: got a specific branch you're looking at?02:17
zygahmm!02:17
zygayeah I have02:17
zygajust a sec02:17
ddaaLarstiQ: wassup?02:17
LarstiQ14:06:52 < zyga> hello (if this is a FQA feel free to flame me but I could not find it on lp): what is the policy of syncing published branches?02:18
ddaathat's a very vague question.02:18
ddaaI guess the appropriately vague answer would be "the policy is it happens automatically"02:19
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LarstiQ14:07:07 < zyga> in other words: how does launchpad decide when to pull from synced branches?02:19
ddaazyga: what do you mean by "synced"?02:19
zygare02:20
zygaokay I have this branch02:20
zygahttps://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/+branch/command-not-found/main02:20
zygaI used bzr's launchpad plugin to register it02:20
ddaaokay this is a mirror branch02:20
zygaand not I was wondering where must I push my code so that the web mirror gets updated02:20
LarstiQzyga: that is a mirrored, not hosted branch02:20
ddaait is mirrored every 24h02:21
zygaahh02:21
kikoddaa, you know the timing information for syncing and mirroring -- do we have that up on a wiki or blog I can reference?02:21
zygait's pulled from the url I gave, right?02:21
ddaakiko: not really02:21
LarstiQzyga: see that page in launchpad, it mentions, Location: http://suxx.pl/~zyga/command-not-found02:21
ddaashould be configurable, and obvious anyway02:21
kikoddaa, could you or matthewrevell produce one?02:21
zygayah, that's my public mirror02:21
LarstiQzyga: so that is where it pulls from, once every 24 hours02:21
kikoddaa, yeah, but this question has been asked a few times and I suck at not remembering the answers...02:21
ddaakiko: write it on the faq page then02:22
zygais there any way to know the pull history?02:22
kikoddaa, I don't know the answers, but the real reason I don't is that I think you are very good at describing the concepts involved, whereas I am not!02:22
ddaahosted branches: 10 mins, mirror branches: 1 day, import branches: complicated but less than 2 days.02:22
zygahmm02:23
zygawhat are import branches?02:23
ddaakiko: that's part of the problem02:23
LarstiQzyga: importing to bzr from cvs/svn02:23
ddaathis stuff needs to be answered simply _without_ describing the concepts involved02:23
zygaok02:23
zygaI'm puzzled now02:23
zygamaybe I should have used hosted branch02:23
LarstiQzyga: depends on what you want to do02:24
zygaI do not have to maintain my own mirror this way02:24
zygawell I have a home mirror but that's really not hi-uptime and such02:24
ddaazyga: zorry, I'm confuzed, what's the question you would like an answer for?02:24
zygaddaa: none right now 02:24
zygaddaa: maybe just if the time of last pull could be visible on the branch summary page02:24
zygaddaa: I was not aware of the multiple choices when I set up that branch02:25
ddaanod02:25
zygaddaa: and now I'm just wondering if the implicit choice was right02:25
ddaashould be more transparent... *checks for a bug*02:25
zygaI'll re-check the status after another 24 hours and report a bug for explicit information on exact time of last sync if nothing changes02:27
ddaazyga: would this make you happy: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/7403102:27
UbugtuMalone bug 74031 in launchpad-bazaar "supermirror pull frequency should be more transparent" [Medium,Confirmed]  02:27
zygathanks for answering my questions :-)02:27
kikoddaa, I try not to live in an ideal world...02:27
zyga90% does: I'd add information about failed pull if any02:27
ddaakiko: I try to live in an ideal world02:27
ddaawe're going to meet someplace02:28
ddaazyga: what kind of information?02:28
zygaddaa: tried at <timestamp> but got 404 instead02:29
zygasomething like that02:29
zygaso that I know there is a typo in the URL or something02:29
ddaazyga: it's already displayed02:29
ddaawhen there is an error02:29
zygaoh, good02:29
zygathen my comment is obsolete02:29
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kikoddaa, uhh, that's not what I meant. :-)02:30
ddaazyga: thank you for your input02:31
ddaakiko: I think it's much better to fix the UI, than write documentation that's going to be hard to read and that will become obsolete.02:32
kikoddaa, is the UI fix easy enough?02:32
kikoif so I agree02:32
kikoif it's going to take months though, docs are a better mitigation plan02:32
ddaahttps://launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/74031 is FiF fodder02:32
UbugtuMalone bug 74031 in launchpad-bazaar "supermirror pull frequency should be more transparent" [Medium,Confirmed]  02:32
ddaasomething like one browser method and one template change02:32
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zygathanks!02:36
ddaakiko: can you oblige https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/325502:36
niemeyerkiko: Have you done any tests regarding the amount of data transferred between Launchpad and PostgreSQL for heavy pages?02:38
kikoniemeyer, I have never done that, no.02:39
ddaakiko: just clear the branch on https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3/+source, and move https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3 and https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.4.2 to the obosolete-junk product.02:40
kikoddaa, can we move series between branches?02:40
ddaakiko: you mean "between products", right?02:41
kikoyes, sorry.02:41
ddaaI used to do this in the old times02:41
ddaawhen I was admin myself02:41
kikoon what page?02:41
ddaa+admin, I guess :)02:41
kikothat page doesn't exist, and I suspect it's no longer possible to do this without DBA intervention.02:42
ddaahaha02:42
ddaaon series/+review02:42
kiko!02:42
ddaadoit!02:42
kikoForbidden02:42
ddaalol!02:42
kikoit's probably a buttsource hangup02:42
ddaait looks like it's restricted to just the owner02:43
kikowow, really02:43
ddaaI can access https://launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs/trunk/+review but not https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3/+review02:43
kikowell02:44
kikoit says inTeam vcs_imports02:44
ddaaI am in this team.02:44
kikomaybe the latter is a bug?02:44
ddaabut it does not work for me02:44
kikowhat does the restricted message tell you?02:44
kikoddaa, both are forbidden for me fwiw02:45
ddaahttps://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileywHIb7.html02:45
kikoddaa, bug! fun.02:46
kikomatsubara, have time for a quick test-n-fix?02:46
ddaakiko: completely bustificated02:46
ddaashould be admin-only02:46
kikoddaa, should be easy to fix02:46
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kikohttps://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileywHIb7.html02:46
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kikofor https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3/+review02:46
kikomatsubara, ^^^02:46
matsubarakiko: checking...02:48
kikosalgado, sftp://devpad.canonical.com/code/kiko/launchpad/global-karma02:48
salgadothanks kiko 02:49
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kikosalgado, hmm.02:49
kikosalgado, says zero revs pushed, but.. it's there02:49
kikomatsubara, can you file a bug so I can link to it from the ticket?02:52
matthewrevellddaa: Sorry, been at lunch. I notice you mentioned an improvement to UI, rather than docs, but I'll happily write a general guide to syncing and mirroring if you can provide the base info. I know there's some stuff on your blog.02:53
ddaamrevell: let's do this in amsterdam02:54
ddaaneed to focus on this oops stuff this week02:54
kikomatthewrevell, I was talking about answering the specific question: how long do we take to mirror  and sync from the various different branch types02:54
matsubarakiko: sure thing.02:54
kikomatthewrevell, not about general documentation02:54
ddaacannot let myself get sidetracked by all the other things that I should be doing as well.02:54
kiko(which would be nice but more time-consuming)02:55
ddaamrevell: do you have an amsterdam-todo-list already?02:55
kikothanks matsubara rocking as usual02:55
matthewrevellkiko: Ah, I thought ddaa said he was going to tweak the UI to answer that question. I'll be writing a general guide at some point.02:55
ddaaI said that.02:56
matthewrevellddaa: No to-do list yet. To much to do here, atm :) I'll put some ideas together later in the week.02:56
kikomatthewrevell, ddaa: are we sure that the UI tweak will answer the questions relevant there? I thought there were 2 or 3 intervals that are relevant (but I might be on crack)02:56
ddaayes02:56
kikowhen we mirror, when we sync and when we scan02:56
kikook thanks 02:56
matsubarakiko: just to make sure, are you trying to access a productseries +review page, so you can disable it?02:56
ddaaultimately, those interval should become either displayed in the UI or vanishingly small02:57
ddaaultimately ~ one month or so02:57
ddaawith the current focus02:57
kikomatsubara, so I can move it to another product02:57
ddaamatsubara: effectively, to disable it02:58
matsubarakiko: all right. In launchpad.dev I can access a productseries +review page logged in as a LP admin.02:58
kikomatsubara, and can you access the page above on edge?02:58
matsubarakiko: I'm not a admin on production02:59
kikotrue, true :-)02:59
UbugtuNew bug: #80990 in launchpad "Define a better policy for disabling archive mirrors" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8099003:00
kikomatsubara, ok, confirmed that it is broken on edge too. I think you may be testing using the wrong user.03:02
UbugtuNew bug: #80991 in launchpad "The distribution mirror listings look awful on beta.launchpad.net" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8099103:05
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ddaamatsubara: make sure that the admin user you are using is 1. not vcs-imports member 2. not owner of the product/series03:08
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kikompt, are you perchance awake?04:50
kikowhere's francis...04:50
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kiko-fud***04:50
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flacostekiko-fud: pong04:51
kiko-fudflacoste!04:51
kiko-fudflacoste, I might need to talk to you a bit after lunch, so hang around04:51
kiko-fudlet me go out for food briefly04:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #81002 in malone "Changing search result order from importance to newest first clears assignee criteria" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8100205:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #81013 in launchpad "Semi-secret polls claims you need to enter a vote key" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8101306:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #81014 in malone "Don't assume entered package is a binary package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8101406:35
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mptGooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!07:30
mptkiko, I'm awake now :-)07:32
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sandy16hi there07:33
kikompt!07:34
sandy16i have got some problem in launchpad account, can any body help me out?07:34
kikosandy16, sure, what's up.07:34
sandy16kiko, i have three email address in launchpad account, and i have changed the preferred address and deleted the previous one (which i use for login), now i am unable to login07:36
kikosandy16, what's your launchpad name?07:37
sandy16kiko, sandeep.kedarasipalli07:38
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sandy16kiko, any way?07:41
kikosandy16, hold on.07:42
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radixJust so you guys know, I'm about to create a "Later" milestone in one of my products as a workaround for being unable to view milestone-less tickets by themselves (bug #70709), hint hint07:46
UbugtuMalone bug 70709 in malone "Can't search for bugs without a milestone set" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7070907:46
kikoradix, do you use product series?07:54
radixkiko: no, we only have trunk07:55
kikoradix, would you use product series in the future?07:55
radixkiko: I don't believe so07:55
sandy16kiko, found any solution to my problem?07:55
UbugtuNew bug: #81023 in launchpad "Launchpad copyright year range should include 2007" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8102307:55
kikointeresting.07:55
radixkiko: we have a pretty centralized development without any sort of dev/stable/whatever split07:55
radixkiko: probably very similar to malone, looking at its LP page07:56
kikook.07:56
kikosandy16, what email address are you trying to use to log in?07:57
sandy16kiko, sandeep.kedarasipalli@gmail.com (this is what i have changed for as preferred ID)07:58
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kikosandy16, what happens when you enter that email and your password?07:58
sandy16kiko, "The email address and password do not match."08:00
kikosandy16, can you try the "forgot my password" button?08:01
sandy16kiko, oh i got that back08:02
sandy16kiko, thanx buddy08:02
kikowoo!08:03
kikothanks sandy16 08:03
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mptkiko, correction: I told you that ui-one-zero was missing code from December that I needed for one of the page redesigns. It's actually code that was landed January 11th.08:54
kikoah.08:55
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sidneihey there09:55
sidneiwho do i have to beg to get a copy of launchpad09:56
mdkesidnei: launchpad.net/faq09:57
beunosidnei: short version, it's no available for download.... *yet*09:57
mdkehmm, doesn't say on that page. sidnei: kiko can help09:58
sidneiyawn. my hair will turn white before i get hold of it :)09:58
mdke??09:59
beunomdke, sorry then, was like that last time I checked09:59
mdkeI mean, I don't get the hair turning white thing09:59
sidneii think i will have to visit kiko personally10:00
kikoyeah maybe10:00
mdkewhy? he's very active on irc10:00
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mdkehe's ALWAYS HERE!10:00
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sidneijust a ref to the fact i've been waiting forever10:01
kikofor a personal visit?10:01
kikogive me a break10:01
sidneikiko: if you only would stay on the same continent long enough10:02
sidneikiko: i might visit you on the winter actually10:03
sidneilets see how that works10:04
kikosounds awesome10:04
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alex_muntadahave a problem with an external bzr branch that I cannot update thru sftp, anyone can help me?10:53
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thumperalex_muntada: spiv will be along in a second to help you10:55
alex_muntadathumper: thanks!10:55
alex_muntadaI'm also asking in #bzr10:56
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spivmdke: hello!10:58
mdkehiya :)10:58
mdkespiv: you can guess what I'm going to poke you about10:58
spivmdke: I think so, sorry, doing three+ conversations at once!11:07
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mdkespiv: no worries, I'll be around for a bit if you have time. It's about my email re: wiki11:07
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spivmdke: I'll try dig up that script later today.  Sorry for the delay, I've been on leave and now I'm at a sprint.11:43
mdkespiv: no problema, thanks for replying11:43
spivmdke: I'll mail you once I've done that.11:43
mdkespiv: actually if you just give me a list for the help.u.c wiki, that will do, we can maybe merge it with the list you did last time on wiki.u.c?11:44
spivmdke: Sure, I'll need to get the admins to run the script.  I'll dig up the details and send the admin request later today.11:45
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spivmdke: But I'll also make sure you have the details of what's involved, so hopefully you're not stuck depending on me for this stuff next time :)11:45
mdkespiv: thanks, that's great! cc: me on the RT if you like11:45
spiv(I'm happy to help if I'm around, but if I'm not it shouldn't stop things)11:46
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mdkehopefully this will be the last time, but you never know11:46
jmlcan I acquire the 'jml' account on launchpad?11:52
LarstiQnot sure what the current owner thinks of that11:53
jmlyeah. I guess not.11:55
mdkestill, all the cool people have the same launchpad and irc handle11:56
mdkeyou could do away with Juko Marc Lucas?11:56
LaserJockmdke: not all cool people ;-)12:14
mdkeLaserJock: *cough*12:16
LaserJockI should move my LP page I guess12:17
LaserJockdoes that mess things up to change IDs?12:17
LarstiQafaik your id is the same, only the outward name changes12:17
LarstiQso all references still work12:17
LarstiQthen again, it has been a long while since I did that.12:17
LaserJockso just the name-id association is changed12:17
mdkeyou can change your username really easily too12:17
mdkeas well as your realname12:18
LaserJockI realized the other day that searching for laserjock give people nothing12:18
=== mdke notes that salgado has fixed that now
mdkethat was one of my fix it friday bugs12:18

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